20 Episode results for "Pibor"
The 14th Episode
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I mean we did one and you know the different houses or what now what we only we could do. But you know we'd like to have the guests. The whole vibe thing was had guests in like vibe with people you know when we didn't have a gift with each other you know what i mean the whole vibe and deal was the vibe with other people and get it going. You know what i mean. Yeah we'll bring in you know she's got her own thing now too you know. Don't make me thank podcast. She's working on that you're right. Yeah yeah that's all spreaker. Okay i gotta find it. Because i was like all i heard i heard the first one. I'm like what happened to that. I guess 'cause like he's deal because the thing was it doesn't go on apple podcasts. So like es. I'll have to open up on spotify and i figured out how to put all that on apple like deliberately put it through apple like the or whatever. Yeah and so. That's all i mess with. The my podcast is is. The apple is apple. I tunes deal. And so yeah. It's it's a video on my youtube. It should popcorn links into description. Yeah man over there done here. Check that out. And if you don't wanna listen to all the random episodes do cup shows in the extra butterfield. That's all the random stuff that's like all the rate like all these entertainment podcasts. They go into detail on like stuff that's like and whatnot. I do the same thing. And like i try to keep it like ten to fifteen minutes. It doesn't have all the nice bugai stuff. You know what i mean like commercials thing honestly with my podcast i dig. It definitely was wink. When cova kinda hit it was just not good. It was no good fun stories out there anymore. It's kinda like blah. And i'm a i'm a real routine kind of person and once i fall out of a routine i just i fall out. I mean i started back again eventually but right now i mean this this thing right here. That's wild i mean. This is my baby right now. So hova if you burri. Ill house comedy Ghassem for you grow because you know twitter's awhile place. Br and i follow a couple of people and apparently there's a video of iraq that's going around. I don't know if y'all y'all follow anybody. It was the neck ammonia time. Are you talking about now on and on and talk about six nine at all about the one that jumped in the waterberg fire. No i'm talking about the dues fucking. Oh what the yeah sequent ready to eat now sequel to read and see people on fucking twitter bre and they're focusing on tiktok. 'cause you're gonna take tax the crazy mother fuckers nine hour taco and shit out this twitter shit and you can only cells with an women you know what i got to say. I think it was awesome. Nfl the but like i was saying you need to bring in house because of your handling. I didn't i do not see that. I mean the wrench and everything. I know y'all got a four-match two topics to talk about. But did you see this shit. premium twitter. Yes the super followers and all that bullshit. Yeah like what the fuck is that shit. I mean i heard it was like you can sell your premium. Onlyfans style ship. I have no clue on regular twitter. You got to download the app now. Has twitter regular twitter. I guess basically twitter is starting to only fans like y'all wanted to anyone. Only 'cause loves really is yeah ueno. Check this out. That might be a good thing. Because if you're paying for stuff then you could probably say whatever you want. You won't get bad. You could literally say whatever you want on that one. I bet there's gonna be some people who are really popular and have a big following and they're gonna make you pay to see their tweet. Oh so there's a win win. I'm gonna say this if anybody follow does a premium twitter bullshit. This is barbara is talking about is fogging blog. I ain't gonna pay to see your stupid ass tweets bro. I don't give a damn about those stupid as video i'll give a damn about your good morning busey damn about anything that you're going to have to promote or save because i'm not gonna pay for a fucking looking through the plate of food i'm meteorite. Now they grow look at the snow in texas. Everybody got that shit. Look out the window not know. How do you feel about fleet i. I don't even think i've used. I haven't either. I have used it once. I haven't. I don't even think i've used it for the damn show either way. Maybe once but i know use it on on a that's bob pocket And i don't even think. I use the right because i look and i was like. That's not even what i try to do. We going to do segment on here for the first time it's called that's wild or make you smile so basically if you seen something this week that was just ridiculous. That made no sense. That's wild or maybe seeing something out was cool like somebody did something for somebody. It made you smile. So i'm gonna start out with When people come to the supermarket for some reason their brain completely shuts off. They can't find anything they ask you for everything. A in example other day. I'm standing on a meat case. I see this dude kinda like look up and down on me case finally looks at me says you guys got ground turkey five feet away from. There's a display with the lease sporty packs a ground turkey. It's got a sign on on everything. I walk up and wave my hands up and down by you talking about this and you could see the look on his face. He's like oh. I should have been able to see that but i'm in my hand on my desk. Wow that you can't find thirty packs of meat dez right in front of your face. People are stupid. I find myself stupid situation like that all the time where it's like. Oh and you know how like without the masking you can show people only lets me with a mask Why am i making the emotion to to signal that. Oh i fucked up this other person. I'm just misers walkaway Saw i'll tell you what. I what i didn't see but it was. Yesterday was the the amount of people that went out to help a community by for those who do listen to be a mess show. Their the boys went up to help the salvation army seeing them out. They're brought in a bunch of other people and they welcome donations and all that stuff so and it wasn't open to the public like he couldn't just walk off the streets and be like. Hey i wanna pack. I wanna package. And i want some water. It was for this little apartment community and it was. It was pretty bad ass. Obviously he's actually smiling. He's smiling like a motherfucker right now. I would say the while. Shit that i saw was my man. Losing his dance with her mother. Fucker notification ever anthony's fallen. You did yo do. I never use use that account. I made a long time ago. I would use it every blue moon. But i'd never really. I didn't pay attention account. So i was like i got start using it now. I start looking like shit. I'll follow this person fall. This person even key keila hit me up. He's like you don't follow me. Power you joan yes. Let's have knit in good right now. So you bike. Whatever now much you've been drinking what's happened hand. Yoda's some g shit right there s They still sell that shit. Yes you find it. You don't wanna go right. can't tim. Handful of he's like sign up for this shit. I'm out you'll zuma's confusing the kids begin to do this. Shit doing their science projects and whatnot. Roy you yeah. Yeah joey man. he's the settlement refill. Yeah and we met up yesterday. Have debbie man. I'm tito pibor was up. Tito nice to meet you nice to meet you. Homie out to me yes sir. You're watching watching tiktok wants to do. That's prime tom. Tv down tiktok all day at this especially watching no kid. It's use it here with you know a little headphone in. And just hang out with an ira. Yeah yeah. he's a fellow he's also new dead. My kids a year and a half old. But it's still it's still new my first of all how many y'all only got working. I'll may kogo one case. Oh shit fucking handful. Oh shit and the only one in here before. He is now the basketball team. Or which i think about if the rock runs president you think anybody who wouldn't vote for the iraq who the can see right just right out. The rock doing is saying everybody here voting for him i would just they fucking ronald reagan. I'm not saying what he's going to be either owner democrat or republican or whatever. I don't wanna talk about the you know damn well. We couldn't vote for biden or huggins who sanders. because they're both in diabetics spoken. Six years ago i might as well noon. And you're imagine if he run for the party whether the general election or the primary between the hulk hogan and the rock and we have wrestlemania eighteen. Go down a should be. It should be a a match where it's a talking metal fucking by the president limitation chamber. Do even those senators jumps off the fuck and top rope. Her joke in shit can happen in the next ten years arena that we go right now that she could have it on record. I'll say all i know is we should just have a six year. One term president sticks years one term presidency so that what if he's fucking up in those six years then we piece them on the with with still teach people all the time they don't get the fuck outta the goddamn white how they still chill yet but see back in the day impeach you forget blowjob. Now the impeach you because you're on ditch. It is beach because he got a blowjob. I dare man house debates though with the rock near light. He such a f- down in a minute. No no real talk. Does the president actually really do anything and make decisions or people. Tell him to do something and he talks. So if the rock is the president of the fuck is talking his ass off. It'd be perfect. The person is just fucking puppet. He's not really making a decision like all those lobbyists. Now the thing is like it's a balance of power you know like you know the house and in the what is the the judges should spend more check and balance each other but you get those fuckers that in there for life like what are the senators or congressmen they have no term limits. They just keep rerunning. Rerunning acid legitimate. Who would be the rocks vite vp. Ooh shit the barbara joan hill. He's dona l. That's a good one young guinea joni because one of them is exactly that doing a hill. One percent Yeah yeah y'all need to send them slowed every year. We got a little debbie. He's got plenty low. Debbie trust meet guiding. You worked on. How many places man was he. Rattler stabat ten source and allowing mature about. Oh shit you. Yeah you see the i wrote. My axle does right by you all in his basement so that makes just one stop delivery like him and happy. Go back to warehouse ago. 'cause like the stores i have aerobics stored so it just made they like turn into base twelve hour days for damn yet was not fun. That fucking sucks bro. Yeah yeah yeah especially because it's like that happened. Got out of that but in snowstorm so like all the stores are completely empty. So then all some. I'm having to actually work on top of having. Dx door puzzled stores buckner damn do so two weeks of living l. a. Do you got like stores that you like to deliver to stores that. You just don't want to go in there Walmart who said that ever era. Nail the nail on the head I've been in a supermarket business for like twenty eight years. I know is a walmart walmart to give a flying fuck about you to the annetta percent recorded this or is just like zoom pockets. Dan i attributed off. It's little debbie. Ads like a fucking What do you call lou just to be safe. We'll edit out less t. It's actually dedicated to social media like artery. That's why like even on my twitter like after kinda try and be safe and they've actually caught off. They actually started replying much since I'll walk up. They replied you tweets. Yea not there. They replaced by reach -letes so like today. I retweeted their whole like the happy scene of the week and i was like yet. Make sure you need sir cake in there are like that's the spirit knowledge like i'll be in with a fucking You know Mikey crab with the own. I do the fucking dick. Because be honest like i call it the show like three weeks ago and i was like frigging hugging. I was having a rough fast day rough s morning and i call us bill. Massive charter be like. Hey you got her off as sets up in like like it was a rough morning. I think is religious over. They like it sound like the saddest l. and You know the next day. Cody that guy. He called in. And i it was like whatever like i give a rough day. And that's some reason. I broke down on the radio so site. You make fun of me. Shit whatever i do. I'm laughing at kodiak to work with him. So but then but then today trucking. Mikey crabs take a shot at me. Because i wanted salvation army yesterday to me like all the guys because like i've never met them and i think that's cool and i went to go meet them and also like if you see a white f150 fifty with a bit haul behind it That might just be below debbie Yesterday and today he replied to that tweet yet. Make sure you look for the the dude right. I look for the rich crying with his woman in the driver's seat. Wow real real like real rich content there bro. you know. Like cody didn't basically all rate rose or light off. He's like oh you know. Oh the hurt your feelings. Now's like no not at all telling you like you're a bit late. But and he was all like no. I called in wednesday that day. Do like roasts you to just let me through your the reason. They like podcasts. Of y'all y'all debbie man. I don't know if you know. I used to work with cody. I moved to texas for a little bit. I worked with him with three months in. I mean i think cody's i mean is coda was shit. Man that sucks yeah. The obscene might crabs. He's been around for a while they didn't use a bit of fucking gay he's a dig was a heroin addict. He he hold they're like oh. Did i hurt your feelings. And it's like i mean dude. I was having a rough day. Like you've never had a rough day. Have we never ever updates and was really calling into the show that day to be here like actually turn around and naked. Hear it in my voice in kind of like fried into it to where they were. What's going on on world This debbie man was me. Tell you this about my cat. He calls into a lot of different shows. And from what i hear. No one really likes him because he's an asshole. That's what i told him. I tweeted him outside. This no wonder the entire billy. Madison show doesn't like you. I don't know about java human. Jared have big you know. Yeah he way he calls in him in jericho addicts. So like i said. Are you can text. Jared after i got tweets and i ended up lot impact tweeted that out this negativity in my life much less than that twitter because locked him and then i texted her not a message on twitter. Like dude now. I know why you have added on the air because this is a jackass one hundred and it would have made sense if he didn't you know the day after cody did get whatever but he took a shot at me like three weeks later about something that happened when i called in vote sheet. Stay cool dude. Awesome good job. A real quick people are fucking savages and utilize roll with the punches dude. If he's been asshole just like a block on. That's what you do know. Don't yeah. I basically i sent. Smd is he is just people making noises with their mouth. Don't let them get you pissed off. Who cares you know who you are. They're not quick. You know what. 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Episode 142 :: David Messer :: Online Mindfulness and Cancer Recovery
"You're listening to episode. One forty two of present moment <music> welcome to present moment mindfulness practice insci- i'm ted meissner present moment is podcast with interviews conversations and roundtable discussions we speak with mindfulness most teachers about their newest findings published in peer reviewed science journals teachers about their understanding and methods as they work with students of mindfulness authors about their books and interests and we also speak with every day practitioners the websites present moment mindfulness dot com has show notes for each episode along with resource materials. David messer joins us to speak about his research with online mindfulness and cancer recovery <music> and if you're listening to this podcast in find value in insights from what is shared here know that this is made available from your generosity and the generosity of others like you. I want to thank those of you who are making monthly donations to keep this podcast going and if you're not yet please take a moment go to present moment mindfulness dot com and click on make a donation one time or especially monthly donations show. You value this work which can't happen without you. Thank you for your help your support and your kind generosity a question has been brewing in the global mindfulness community for awhile how about the value of online programs and whether they can't compare to the experience of being in person i frequently hear strong me and certain judgments about this from people who have no experience teaching online fact is there are different levels of what is meant by online online and my own experience has been the participants get as much out of these courses as in person including the deep connections formed with one on another david masters in counseling psychology. He's a licensed psychologist consultant and educator specializing analyzing in mindfulness and technological innovation to improve client wellness organizational functioning and student achievement. Our guest today is nasser david. Welcome to the podcast here i ted. I'm happy to be here sure well. Let's get started by asking you a little bit about your background yeah. This is a funny question. I mean i can tell you about my professional background. I'm a psychologist at in in particular a counseling psychologist so i'm trained clinically to work with individuals vigils our families and kids. I'm also trained to do research which i think is what we're gonna talk more about. Today i think in regards to mindfulness and this study i did my personal background is kind of important also so i was raised in eugene oregon. My parents are wonderful. People kind of old hippies so as a kid. They taught me to meditate kind of when i was in high school so probably the only kid on the block who who after dinner the whole family would go sit and meditate together for so that was pretty wonderful to think what else would the use of much. I think i've just always kind of had <hes> motivation to try to help sometimes somewhat. I don't know if you could say arrogantly. I'm not sure what when i was a kid i like i wanted to be a diplomat and go solve the mideast peace crisis and like i. I had all these ideas and i could do it. Why couldn't they do it and i've always had this really strong urge to help but i think personally i tend to do well with the people interacting with people and so i think psychology and counseling psychology in particular has been a good fit and as part of the program we do a lot of research and so you know i got a sense of how much research can move policy help people listened to research and also obviously how research is a really good way to ascertain tatum. What's what's true at a particular moment. So that's a lot of my i guess background and motivation for doing this. I think that's a really good point that we sometimes try to make on. This podcast is <hes> the research is really good at supporting us having a greater understanding of going on and it doesn't eliminate it of course that there is a response to the practice and that is also something to understand and know the research which is great at opening up ways of potential therapies we might not have thought of before and shows that there can be benefit for people in different situations like we're going to be talking about today so let's see we into them. Got you interested in doing this. Particular study yes so this was a study examining manning the experience of cancer survivors and the potential for mindfulness training particularly mindfulness training online to help them so a big part of the most of my motivation is that my father is a cancer survivor multiple times over and so i've had direct experience about how cancer is not just a physical condition. It's it's very far from a soul much of the diagnosed diagnosed sys and being treatment and even after pibor finished quote unquote with treatment is psychological experience of not to mention mentioned the experience you know as in my case for for family members coping with it so when i look at cancer air there's a lot of care are in a lot of focus on the physical component which makes sense obviously we would want people to live and they're so much more to care and into supporting people than just that i thought of meditation in particular because my dad <hes> i mean my parents have always meditated to some degree but when my hi dad was diagnosed with cancer he started meditating very regularly and the the few times that he doesn't talk a whole lot about his experience ends but the few times that i would ask them about it. He shared how helpful meditation and particularly mindfulness is for him and so yeah i thought i would i. I would look at it in the part of me. That really wants to make a difference sort of latched onto the internet based piece of the internet gives us the ability to scale scale treatments immediately to thousands if not millions of people and so while personally like myself i kind of like teaching and learning person to person <hes> i couldn't ignore the potential there at sort of the motivation for the study so something deep in in connection with your own life life and that provides some energy for you to do this work and so. Let's start to take a look at what you did for the study. I'm very curious about when you say internet. Turn it training. What did that look like. Was that intervention. Yes so relatively simple. What my thoughts about it was. I want this to be something that people will actually do you know they're they're different interventions. I think there's a trade off between the more involved. Something is quite possibly the more helpful it is and in some ways the less likely people art do it right so if you've got a website. Are you likely to read twenty pages his of text and go through demonstrations and examples. Maybe maybe not you know. Are you likely to read one page of text yeah. Probably you probably do that so real simple. The intervention was six weeks long each week. Participants who were in the condition that received the mind of spinning intervention got a page to two pages of instruction tax pictures things like that they got a guided meditation guided meditation was pretty brief the between eight and seventeen minutes long so most of them are more about twelve and they got simple ideas for how to practice this outward. When you're driving your car when you're talking to your significant another <hes> etc so <hes> said that was the intervention so each week we asked them to practice the guided meditation listen to that daily and it was audio audio rather than video we ask them. We said you know the daily practices are optional just do it if they're fun and interesting to you and we asked them to read the lesson as as many times as they liked but at least once now we compared that to folks who are getting care as usual so all of these folks in the study were cancer survivors hyper so folks who had had stage one through three cancer and were done with major treatment but they were still within three years of that remission russian so when we were treating stress we wanted to make sure it was stress related to the cancer experience and not just in maybe different stress you might have twenty five years later in your car breaks down said that was the intervention and then we looked at what's the a fact we studied before and after folks in both conditions what's the effect on in particular <hes> depression anxiety which are really common offer folks who have had cancer on overall mood other pieces that might be common for for folks and on sleep since sleep disturbances of pretty common results of anxiety diety and going through major treatments as well and fatigue since that's a big indicator of how much people can realistically do in their lives so so that was that was the study. So what did you find. Did you did some different measures. It sounds like andrew. Those results were came out the study. Will the study showed that the intervention was really effective so on all of the measures the folks who are doing the mindfulness training along with the usual carrying on to support groups etcetera did a good deal better than the folks who were just doing usual joie care doctors visits going to support groups so in every measure the folks who did the training did better and as has been found in other the research there was what we call a ghost response relationships so the folks who practice more often got more benefit so folks folks got benefit even if they just sat down once a week and did the meditation and read the lesson. They got a little bit of benefit the more they did it twice a week and some folks folks that every day as we'd ask wasn't that's okay. We assume that more you did it the more benefit. They got so free you personally. What is the most interesting aspect of this. Perhaps unexpected thing that came out of the results. I mean to be completely honest. I had i didn't know if it would work. I mean self study is like i think people buy books. They read the books they practice. Presumably a does something but the norm. I'm with teaching mindfulness is that there's in person instruction. I think there's a sense that there's some i don't know what are these special sauce. That being in person with the teacher is meaningful. You feel what they have to bring in. You sort of take that so presenting something over over the internet was an unknown and this is not the first study to present a mindfulness training over the internet but it was the first study with a control condition shen to present something that wasn't led by a teacher in real time so there are different types of online intervention. Some you get on there is a teacher feature. There and maybe other students are there as well and you can ask questions. This was what's called a synchronous. So you get on you study at your own pace you take time on the things you wanna take time on but there's no back and forth so i honestly didn't know what the result would be. We we didn't know if there is perhaps something necessary or useful about in person interaction and they're very well might be <hes> what we did find was that there there was some benefit and honestly the research now suggests that the benefit of these with what are called a synchronous interventions are about the the same as those that are synchronised. It's interesting. I think a lot of folks myself included when you're meeting with new people in a classroom setting that can be of anxiety exciting provoking right and so for some people i think not interacting with a lot of people can be a little more relaxing than they can move at their own pace so so yes we found that this self study self guided <hes> internet intervention on was really useful but yeah i didn't know if it would be. I'm glad it is in the main benefit of these as synchronous interventions is at they don't require a teacher to be there so if you have really strong strong insightful interventions those can be made standard care for example for people who are coming out of cancer pitching men and it can be a resource just like a support group can be a resource and it can really improve people's well-being so that was the most interesting testing important finding for me. It rugen removes the the bucket of requiring to have l._c. Not just teachers teachers indirect live engagement with participants talk with moment as well but just seeing that there can be this limitless <unk> scale before standard events that might be just a little bit that might be a way to help people just deal with what they're going through and i'd say a host cancer recovery tiny mode. What might that be like. Is it beneficial to give just that dose just a little bit. It's going could help them and that is wrong thing any more than say running. A five k is bad because it's not a marathon. This is something that castillejos yeah even if there's less benefit even if the benefit a small if there's some benefit and that can be provided to everybody or are a lot of people it's a real difference so one of the things i wanna share with those realis- name his for those who many teachers cheers were listening to this podcast and know that i do teach online as well as a person and what i found is that doing those in particular it was live video <unk> interaction with a teacher has very strong connection and ability to reach participants in the program and at one shouldn't dismiss that because it's different than face to face and the same thing applies to as synchronous kinds of programs like this that really depends on what is it. You're trying to get out of this word provide for the participants in these programs. If it's kinda move the needle can we touch people in a way that otherwise they would have nothing and there's value in doing this kind of work and if you really want to carry things even further forward <music> ads alive your action and the group participation that's great and that's another thing that can be done to so. It's good to see this kind of program. Go forward wondering david. Would you like to see happen in the future with mindfulness program spore in anything really that helps people people who are suffering in some way like do cancer recovery. I don't know honestly that personally have a strong feeling about like like oh. I'm i'm really pro mindfulness and this should be incorporated. I'm pro what helps people and i really levi trust people's individual experiences and i trust the research and research is basically just listening to people's individual experiences all together doc and seeing what helps him so the research at the moment and people's individual experiences that occurred suggest that the able to d with the facts that they've had cancer and integrate that into their lives and not running running from that then be able to live in the way that's most meaningful to them is really helpful for this particular condition given that a lot of people. I'll have fear of recurrence and whatnot so given that it seems like this is helpful. I think as i mentioned earlier i think it would be really useful useful to have treatments like this as an option for folks who are leaving care weaving hospital based care synchronised treatments are really important orton to and can be very helpful so i think given the probably different types of learning work best for different people having mindfulness programs that involve some as synchronous elements that people can engage in on their own and the ability to connect with the teachers or or other students for support. I think would be wonderful. I think that's one of the challenges for example when people leave hospital based care they may be have been going to support groups that have lots in connection with other people and then when they leave all the sudden. They're on their own so i think that connection with people like you're saying is important too in. It's interesting what you're describing. It sounds like a portfolio of care that in addition to once medical treatment said this is perhaps the most important in dealing with medical conditions like cancer in its recovery is that once that part of the portfolio of care finishes medically right now you're fine. They're still this other. The mentioned the very beginning which is that's not the totality of the experience with cancer. There's also mental and emotional challenges ages that may still echo quite strongly for the rest of one's life or maybe maybe they're very resilient and assist a couple of weeks of that was interesting interesting but having the ability to offer for those people wherever they happen to be within this encounter cancer in and also oh for caregivers as well that there can also be finished its for caregivers to get some a synchronous hell with what they're going through their providing support to someone that they love were caring for these are halpern aspects of this portfolio of chair that doesn't just end with the medical that there needs to be something absolutely and i think a lot of people's challenges even after their major treatments have stopped are cyclical so some people the first few weeks are really difficult and then things get a little bit better and then it's difficult again throughout your life and so so even if the mindful learning mindfulness isn't super important right away and it might be important right away for some people knowing. It's there so so that when things get challenging a year five years tenure stopped malign they they know there. Was this thing that helped me a lot right after my treatment. Maybe i'll go back to that. The i also liked the way you use. The particular wording in this is great to hear researcher wording of seems seems to be indicates. The science is tentative researches tentative and can be changed and updated as we have more information mation but in particular with this personal experience that your individual mileage may vary what this is like for you can be a little different than it is for for the person going through the same thing. That's also something to notice. What's it like for you and one of the things that may be most helpful to you on that journey. Thank you for using things that way sure yeah. Everyone's experiences different. I mean research looks at what's helpful to the most amount of people right on average and every single individual person responds differently so yeah i i would really encourage anybody who's going through something like this to to listen to themselves to trust their own inner our wisdom their own sense of what's helpful for them to pursue that you and i one thing will encourage because sometimes they hear that taking us oh ooh well. <hes> medical treatment sounds unpleasant so i'm not going to do that. Sometimes what is most helpful to. You is not what we want to do. You it may not be as in my case a couple of major surgeries and for many listening and maybe chemo treatments that this is hard getting well. How part of our minds less practice is seeing things as they are and receiving what is also things we don't want to have to go through but thank you nonetheless molest sustain and prolong her even save our lives so when we talk about what is what is bested may not always be. What's comfortable will be helpful to us. I i really think that ted. I wanted to be clear. Mindfulness was was was not developed to treat disease that wasn't sort of why it was developed in the first place and it's not a replacement for traditional therapies and to be totally honest in terms of the research. There's a little bit of research that suggests there's a little bit of immune benefit for meditation which makes sense that's right. You're you're calming your body down. You're able to deal with stress or easily and it's not a treatment. It's the stress and the psychological impact of going through it but it's not a treatment for the disease in enough at south. At least there's no research right now to suggest that at all and that's a very important point is that if you hear this minding the hype about mindfulness mindless is not a curable and is not as you're saying replacement replacement for medical treatment so one of the things in fact it was mentioning this talk of is just yesterday. It's concerning erin. People have say a positive experience variance on retreat of a few days and think well this positive experience. I can stop taking my medication for x. Condition and ah course his teacher never recommended us for lots of reasons but one of the main ones is you're in very neat conditions when you're on say a retreat retreats and of course you feel better getting out of what stressors you avenue your life. It's like when one takes vacation soften as a comparison made made a mindfulness as no better than vacation two different thing a maps and some of those conditions are the same outside of the regular stresses are went by and end mindfulness is about house you work with life while you're in the midst of those stressors voiding so please don't stop to iran's. Don't stop regular treatment. This is something to help you with how you're doing with all of that and as david said there are some indications didn't cresswell's were h._i._v. should be patients in seeing some measurable indicators of how that may be affecting biological resistance. That's great and it's very early on. It's kinds of studies so always wondering is there anything else you wanna share with the listeners. Today i think one of the pieces of mindfulness that's been most helpful to me. Is it allows you the space to be with whatever is going on for you what that's easy and pleasant and or whether that's difficult for unpleasant i think i would just share that for anyone who has a chronic disease or an acute. It does ease that it's okay and really helpful to have a wide variety of feelings about the conditions to just sometimes feel okay an optimistic and confident and to sometimes feel really not okay and sad and depressed. I and i think there's often pressure for folks who have diseases chronic diseases cancer in particular to hold up a good front to fight and if that's useful for you if that's useful some the time then fantastic and there's no right way to be with cancer or with the disease however you're feeling is okay and if i think if you're not feeling well getting social support and care from hospitals or or psychological support from counselors all that is great and it's okay to be the however you are that you don't have to be just how other people are outdo- aren't you to be. I think that's a very important point. Thank you so much to raising that. I often hear the characterization of going through a cancer treatment as fighting it beating and and of course that sets an expectation that it somehow on you due to beat this neck and be a subtle form of aggression then making some some attribution of responsibility liane you for how the body is biologically responding yet missing ridge in you do your treatments and do the things you need to do on a pass to care as you're going through this that's great and don't take it is something you personally failing at and when the body does the body does and you're dealing under difficult circumstances. It's orient point david. Thanks sandra so our guest david nestor o._b. Find awesome links on paper that we're talking about today and thank you so much. Being here really enjoyed this conversation. Thanks <hes>. It's a real pleasure <music>. Thanks for listening. If you'd like to learn more about something you've heard in today's podcast. Please come visit the website. 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079 | By George
"Our world is full of the unexplainable. And if history is in open book, all of these amazing tales right there on display just waiting for us to explore. Welcome. The cabinet of curiosities. Friends come to us in unexpected ways. Their timing can seem strange, but oddly appropriate as they we've themselves so deeply into our lives that we couldn't imagine life without them friends can illuminate the best in us or amplify the worst in us. And sometimes we don't know what kind of friend. They are until it's too late. But no matter what a good friend is there when we need them. The most George p Birdal was that kind of friend. When Ed Smith met George Berdahl in nineteen twenty seven that to hit it off immediately. Both men attended Georgia Tech university that claims among its alumni former president Jimmy Carter and golf legend Bobby Jones, George and Ed took all of the same classes and often completed assignments together they even took the copying each other's homework on more than one occasion changing the answers just enough to make look like they done the work individually. The two men were inseparable, but eventually George started to gain notoriety around the campus. He played varsity football from nineteen twenty eight to nineteen thirty and upon reaching his senior year, he was offered membership into the A N A K society a secret Honor Society founded in nineteen oh eight Ed, however, continued his education as intended and in nineteen thirty he and George earn their bachelor's degrees in engineering. George continued on and received his master's degree. But as the conflict overseas continued to grow he saw an opportunity to put his education and his medal to the test after leaving school. He enlisted in war to and join the crew of a b seventeen bomber flying dozen missions with England's eighth air force. Once the war was over George met and fell in love with a young woman by the name of Ramona Cartwright's who had attended Agnes Scott college only, twenty minutes away from his alma mater. Their engagement was announced in nineteen fifty eight in the Atlanta Journal constitution newspaper and fifty years later, the public radio program a prairie home companion celebrated their anniversary live on the air. George pursued his dreams even after he'd settled down. He joined mad magazine as a member of its board of directors in nineteen sixty nine and maintained his position there until nineteen eighty one in two thousand one time magazine nearly chose him to be their person of the year. Although he lost a Rudy Giuliani following the attacks of September eleventh. However, despite these amazing achievements, George never forgot, his home and his home. Never forgot him. Georgia Tech is so proud of its accomplished alumnus it even named a store in the campus student center bells, and yet no one has ever seen George Pibor down. There are no photos. No videos, nor any I witness testimony as to his identity or whereabouts in two thousand fifteen President Barack Obama gave a speech at Georgia Tech. And joked that Mr. Berdahl was supposed to introduce him. But he was nowhere to be found. The student. Laughed of course. But not because they knew where he was rather. They knew that he was never going to come George p del accomplished Georgia Tech alum World War Two veteran and former mad magazine board member never existed. He was the creation of Ed Smith back in nineteen twenty seven after Ed had received to enrollment forms to the university by mistake. He was going to enroll his high school principal as a joke. But at the last minute decided to change the last name to burgle is best friend's mother's maiden name. The prank took off in ways that even surprised Ed. His friends all participated doing Georges assignments and changing the answers just enough to keep teachers from looking too closely. George Berdahl was listed in the official. Register as graduate of Georgia Tech. And as his classmates started getting drafted into the second World War. They took their fake friend with them. They added his name to the roster on numerous fronts until fellow Georgia Tech alums noticed his. Name and had him removed, and even after he had officially graduated brush Mun the school continued to enroll him for classes every year to the point where it became sort of a tradition. Georgia's name has appeared in the liner notes of rock albums in the signature line of a check from Kraft Foods and even on credit cards. George had become the biggest celebrity almost nobody ever heard of. Berle's legacy is lasted almost a century. And there's no reason why it wouldn't last another hundred years beyond after all George eventually had a son George p Berdahl junior. He can be found teaching several classes at Georgia Tech. Of course. John Kenneth zinn, professor emeritus at the university of Massachusetts medical school once said when you pay attention to boredom it. It's incredibly interesting. Recent studies have shown boredom to be a terrific catalyst for creativity. When the mind is starved for stimulation. It begins to wonder which leads to fascinating discoveries and creations. These days boredom is a rarity the blinking devices. We carry in our pockets, occupy every spare second with cat videos and scrolling feed of celebrity rumination. However during the early nineteenth century boredom was a fact of life, especially during the Napoleonic wars. And I know a war doesn't scream boredom, but to the French prisoners of war biding their time until rescue boredom was all they had as Napoleon's empire fought throughout Europe between eighteen o three and eighteen fifteen numerous French soldiers fell two bullets and bayonets in the pursuit of total domination. Those who weren't killed were taken his prisoners of war where they waited for weeks months, and sometimes even years to be released the British captors were particularly kind giving them an ounce of scotch the half pound of meat or fish and vegetables every day. Between their meals captive soldiers were left to their own devices, filling their time with sleep exercise and staring at the wall, not a very fulfilling lifestyle, but they made the best of it. Some even developed hobbies with such dearth of pastimes available to them. They started fashioning. What was around them into trinkets models tiny dioramas watch displays and houses were crafted from the refuse left behind after each meal, for example, a model guillotine featured in array of guards at the base of a long ramp leading up to the blade dangling precariously over an unfortunate victim ornate filigrees adorned, the thin fence around the perimeter of the model and simple hearts had even been carved into the center of each panel. However, the most popular creations made among the eighty thousand prisoners of war were ships like the kind of wooden models that might adorn a living room mantle. These ships were finally carved too. Look, just like the French and British gunships of the time. The men tightly wove their own hair into sail, rigging and folded scraps of tissue paper into sales and once the British officer saw the work coming from their prisoners. They started smuggling in their own materials. Such as silk, internal shells, tools were even brought in an act that could have ended disastrously if any of the prisoners had decided to use them to escape, but despite their circumstances and lack of freedom they were treated respectfully fed daily and assisted in their unique style of arts and crafts, of course, with wood and short supply in a prison cell the tissue sales and hair rigging had to be fastened to something. Like, I said the soldiers used whatever they could find to build their models out of and nothing was in greater supply than one specific item left behind after every meal bone. After they'd finished eating their daily, fish or lamb. The men would boil the bones and bleach them in the sun to make them easier to carve larger bones would be used for the ship bodies while fish bones, and tinier pieces were turned into masts and cannons the pigs that would roam the POW camp also aided in bone production. Not their own mind, you the pigs belong to the soldiers. But any truffle hunter knows the value of a pig snouts except instead of truffles the hogs would sniff out. Shallow graves that still held human remains the idea of slicing up human bones into model ships sounds morbid. I know, but French soldiers thought dying of boredom was a much worse fate when completed the ships became objects of desire among British naval officers the money earned from their sale. Went back to the soldiers to buy more supplies, thus allowing them to produce more ships. What no one's been able to explain in over two hundred years, though is just how. Prisoners were able to craft such accurate representations of these ships that they couldn't see from their cells. You see while they weren't built to scale the level of artistry and precision in each model makes one imagine that perhaps the men were sneaking out each night to study the real thing before getting back to work a ludicrous thought, I know, but no more ludicrous than what has become of the ships today. They're still around and just as in demand as they were two centuries ago. French prisoner of war bone ships can sell it auction for thousands of dollars. In fact, a model of the British Royal Navy's HMS victory sold for over fifty five thousand dollars back in two thousand seven not too shabby something made from spare parts in a prison cell. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the cabinet of curiosities subscribe for free on apple podcasts. Or learn more about the show by visiting curiosities podcast dot com. The show was created by me Aaron minke in partnership with how stuff works I make another award-winning show called Lor which is upon podcast book series and television show, and you can learn all about it over at the world of Lor dot com until next time. Stay curious.
Episode 12 Deer hunting debated topics with Joey from herring branch whitetails
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Paul clinton this episode number twelve today on today's episode. We had joey from herring. Branch white tells back on We had a pretty interesting conversation about some of the most debated white tailed deer strategies or topics Like the october lol whether you should hunt cold fronts or wait till they're gone all that kind of stuff There's a whole bunch of questions we had. We got joe opinions on them. I chimed in with some of my opinions of a great conversation. Make sure stick around. Check it check that out. I hope you like it. Make sure subscribe to the podcast. Give a five star rating shares with your friends all that fun stuff I'm trying to grow this and Get as many people listening. They can make sure you head on over instagram. You can find a center force. foresight outdoors It's four state under for doors. I believe That's our instagram page. You can follow along there as well. yes oh stick around. Check out the episode. It's a great show. Hey guys welcome back to behind the arrow. I'm your host. Paul clinton here again We got joey back from herring branch white tails. How are you today. Joey greg abbott. You not too bad just getting things already. It's earth thanksgiving here in canada. So get ready for that and be taking part in those festivities after record this episode. Yeah man but On today's episode. So we were talking there through the week and you came up with the idea to put some list. Together of some of the biggest debated topic search strategies. I guess for whitetail hunting. So we both put a list together and We'll just go through the list today and give our opinions on each point that we've come up with Think that sounds like a good way to get this going. How about what do you think arming sounds getting or so i got your list pulled up here in the first topic that you have on your list is what wind directions are the best to hunt. And what are the worst. So what's your take on that. So while the reason why. I put that is i hear bunge pibor like you gotta hunt north winds got on north winds yet. But the way i see it is and from what i've experienced is that deer move the same especially mature bucks. They moved the same no matter what direction when is coming in. So this is where p- Dies at us a saddles or that use Climbing stands have an advantage. So what i like to do. Is you know if i say i have a book. That's moving from say him. Every single day he moves west from his bed. The only wind that you cannot haunt that deer is a wind coming from the west. You if you're if you're north of that deer that the when nagano bus you if you're south of deer the when is gonna bust you if you're isa deal wendy isn't gonna bust you so am personally my experience through all a bunch of like my close friends have used the same strategy and me personally using it there. It really doesn't matter. What when direction deer hunting as long as you know where that deer traveling and adjust accordingly as for the worst There's always going to be that no matter what you do. There's always gonna be a one when they you cannot aunt. and that is the The wind coming from the direction that deer is heading. Because if in order to haunt that dare you have to be in front of it and if the wind is is coming from the direction that deer is heading that means you're always gonna be up went from and that is the only one that you can. Yes like where i hunt. I got a couple stands set up. And i know the bedding areas are i know where they're trying to defeat so depending on what wendy action have that day kind of plays into what stand. I'm gonna be using to try and get them so. I have a couple of things a couple different areas set up and like you said depending on which direction the wind is blowing. It'll Depend where it'll make my decision of where i'm going to sit to get the wind Go to my best advantage. I really don't think there is a bad went to knock go out and hunt that of thing so all right next on the list that you got here is is morning hunting or afternoon. Hunting better is so personally lifelock question. It can be like into different ways so personal preference. I mean i'd rather hot in the morning just because I just like hunting in the morning because then if you shoot something he got all day to look for it and you're not look for something dark but as far as actual like deer movement wise it depends on your property so There's really not a clear answer to that Because you now my own property for example one year there will be moving around like nine thirty ten o'clock in the morning and then the next year they won't move till you know four in the afternoon really you just got to on this work cameras. Come in you know big play is you've just gotta know your poverty. No when the deer are moving and then that's really when you should be owning. You know on the kind of person to where i would rather you know. Go out to stand at nine o'clock in the morning because they're moving at say eleven thirty noon rather than just sitting there all day. Because i don't know when the moving so it's not that i don't like sit down tree just like you know to be the most effective that i can in the least amount of time so really i think There's not one is better than the other. It just depends on your heard the f. Sure like right now. We got box moving on my property. But they're not moving till about three thirty in the afternoon. You catch a glimpse of them and then again they come back through right around. Like seven o'clock right just before dark here so i still in the mornings I just like being in the woods. And if i get that lucky break in one comes through in the morning. That's awesome but i make sure that i'm definitely back in the standby no later than two o'clock if i do come in for a break in the day but it definitely comes down to the heard and what you're finding on your cameras. I run about four or five cameras on our property right now just different pass in different corners of the property to try and make sure i got the i got the knowledge of where they are and when they're moving and where they're moving to help my stand setup so cameras are you running Right now i'm running in four. Yes right now. I got four out I got to setup on basically like eight way intersections of a whole bunch of different Deer pass and then got to own bait bows right now bringing a bait balls out the next question on the list is big piles or food plots so if you if you have the right If you have the right material to do a food plot rights then food bought ever single every single time so they. I actually did a video on this and you know for all listeners. You guys can check it out on my instagram At hp tales So there's a big problem with bape paul's anfu pots is that neither one of are done. Either right or done to their full potential so a lot of the times. I and drives me crazy when people do this. Is they'll have an open hayfield and then they will just you know kick some dirt around and just throw corn you know in that field when reality making pot is not hard everybody thinks when they hear food pod they're like oh you know you need tractors and you need this. You need that you really don't some of the best food lots of ever haunted over or just little like you know thirty by thirty areas. You know you don't really need anything more than if you wanna fancy with it Gas-powered a rotary tiller from you know home depot or lowe's concealing hundred bucks and then other than that just one of those little hands writers so you don't need a big four five. Six plus acre foodball users need something little and not a lot of people take advantage of that or what they will do is You know like in the video that talked about they'll have an open field but they'll plant clover which doesn't need a bunch of white to grow which yes clover is a good food source for them but if you have the light why wouldn't you take advantage of that to grow radishes or to grow turn-up sir. You know a ps or something that needs a bunch of light dow also is very nutrient packed for the deer and also the deer just like because there's not much of them out there So i guess answer to the question is i would choose food plots but bay piles. They do have their purpose but us do each one of them right. Yeah i have a. I had a plan to get some food. Plots in this year We got some open fields. But a lot of hardwoods where i am. So we're going to clear out a knock down some of the weeds and whatnot. We want to do some Food plots but with covert and everything. Kind of a damper on that so. I'm just hunting bay. Piles this year. But they are working their effective. But i definitely want to try the food plots and see if i can get that to work and more or less just for learning experience for me and if it works out it works out so yeah i mean like like i said i mean you know the deer that i've been haunting the past couple of years. I got him common over a pile. I mean he's one of the smartest deer that i've ever on his. But i mean if you do either one of them right. They both work just as good. You just gotta make sure you're doing it right. Yeah i'm definitely gonna put a lot of research into out and maybe have some conversations with you and how you like to do your food plots to get that down for next year trying those in in the spring all right next here we have Hunting cold fronts before after or does it matter so economy doesn't matter so dear they can sense of a pressure drop and whenever you have a cold front or i mean any front really About two to three days before that franck comes in the pressure starts dropping and the deer can sense that but the thing is with the deer is you know don't have televisions where they can just turn on the news. See what's happening. They just sense the pressure drop and more or less or like i gotta go get ready you know how like humans whenever there's a giant snowstorm common we go and get the bread and the eggs and the milk and all that will the deer doing the same thing. They're going again as much food as they can on before that front comes because they have no clue what's coming they can just bounce a pressure drop and that there's something coming so Bay yeah it really doesn't matter Because even wants even when the cold front comes through those dear are still going to be moving dorma so the about two to three days before the fry and the two to three days after the front though probably be a little bit more active because the first couple of days they'll be Get ready for the front. And then the next couple of days after that. They're recovering from it so they'll be a little bit more active but they're still going to be like during the front and are going to move the normal weight at the normally move. Yeah for sure. I love getting right before cold front comes in. I definitely see the activity. Pickup i do like to watch the weather and use the weather to my advantage. Much as i can And it's one thing. I've always believed as right out. Get right get out right before that cold front hits and i've seen a lot of movement then so can you shoot boxing october. Yup mean i don't. I'm not one of those guys that believe in the october lull has people call it. You know it's just it's one of those things where I think the reason why people call the october lull on is because deer when they When the velvet this shut it off their antlers the testosterone levels in those dear rise and basically it's causing the deer. It's it's more or less like how teenager like human teenagers through puberty. That's what the deer going through at that moment. They don't really know what they want. You know where they want to go. So they're just kind of all over the place so you know you might have in september. You might have four or five six hundred bucks on your cameras. Then come october. You might only have one or non because they just they just they just Spurs outs so. But the thing is is you have to be knowledgeable of what your neighbors properties are like. So the way. I like to set my properties for the quote uncle. October law is being the only sustainable food source in the area. Because if you do that then no matter what the october lol thing that they're going to be there because you have the only consistent food source because at least around here By the time the first week. October rolls around every you know all the cornfields and soybean fields are either cut or they're about to be cut so if you can provide them with that consistent food source you're going to have deer that are just going to stay on your property and then all the other bucks from other areas that you know just kind of spread out. They're gonna pour into your property. Ian so it's simple terms yes you can. Yeah for sure. Yeah have you can get that good quality food and be the only one around. It'll definitely bring them in either betting on other people's property from what i've seen is without food it'll always make sure they're on your property to eat so Back to the front situation do on only cold fronts or are you in any front. Kinda guy. I'm in any front on a guy like i said About the other question is the deer. Don't have the t the television like we do where we can see. What's coming all they. They can sense the pressure drop but they have no clue what's coming you know for all they know it could be. It could be a cold front or it could be a blizzard or a rain storm or tornado. They have no clue so they just got to be prepared for anything. That's coming their way. So that's why. I'm an any front kinda guy. Because i've hunted. I found it before rainstorms. I've hunted before snowstorms of hunted before blizzards. And they all act. The same way. The first couple of days before the front actually hits they all just are up moving around getting prepared so i'm any franca guy. Yeah for sure of that too. I'm not a big fan of hunting and warm weather. If you've got a big warm front common. But i'll still go out and try and catch the movement Are late-season bucks. A waste of time. now Actually some of the bays deer that i've ever shot And also some of the biggest year that some of my clients have ever shot and also family members and friends of overshot have actually been in december january so the reason why is and this is how i really honestly gear my properties towards is you know yeah. I provide them with food source. Doering dr overall where get basically all the deer on the area all my property. But i really geared towards that. Really january's when i gear it towards because you know by january a lot of people have given up because you know a lotta people have the mindset that Lazim bucks are wasted time. Or you know it's too cold for them or they don't want to continue putting in the work that's necessary in order to grow big deer and attract big year and You know that. That's what i gear my property towards his. I provide that ladies and food source because by that point all the story bean fields and food plots are either picked over dying same thing with the cornfields And then you know a lot of people. If they're say they're doing a bait how you know they come too late december early january they just kinda give up on that and you know if i'm the only in the area who has. It's the same same idea as the october law. If i'm the only one in the area the has food. The deer are going to be there because the food levels of just basically mashed nothing by the late season. So personal opinion. That's my favorite time to haunt. His lights is and i'd i'd haunt season every single day over october or november any day so to get them there in the late season If you're on a food plot do you have anything that you know of. That'll sit there and grow and still be a viable food source in the middle of winter. So it depends on the area Here in delaware we We don't really have like cold cold winter. We'll get like a couple of days where it's like you know thirty and it will snow and entered to and then the next day it's like fifty degrees so we can get away with chicory or A clover plot that will last through say february. But a lotta times. What i like to do is wrong. Food plots matthew plots piles In the late season. And and that's because i mean a lot of areas especially where you are. I can imagine january's really cold. I don't know what it what it equates to in fahrenheit but january usually sitting around minus twenty celsius here so yes so you've got about zero percent chance of getting anything to grow up there so i mean sudan down here we can get away with it up there. You can't so but anyways even here. I still generally generally run bait piles because you want so late and you want to run your house like he would in early spring. You know after it's because late-season you know it's after the raw in those dear are exhausted from you know jason does round and they need to you know. Pack on some fag. It's alive protein in them. So i'm running a bunch of protein supplements mineral supplements. Some you know than Other things like corn. And i'm just running basically honestly basically the way i do my bagels Late and sprang is if you go to walmart cabela's bass pro any of you know any your outdoors stores and go to the hunting. I'll where all the you know. Cornyn stuff is and just pick one of everything. That's basically how i more. Or less. Ron my bait piles and it works because not only are you providing them with the nutrients that they need by. You're also being different than your neighbors. Because you know there's you know there's so many people that run corn that you can have corn pile here and then your neighbor has born pile and his neighbor on corn pile. But if you're running one of everything. The deer basically guaranteed to be there. It's more more expensive though. That's the only downfall to it but i mean it's deer. Hunting is jeep knows not at all. It's one of those things once you get hooked on it. You kinda somedays. Wish didn't when you look at your bank account tackling adelaide susan. I like to give. It may get mineral blocks and stuff back to help them re-energize to speak after the rot when they beat themselves up pretty good but moon phases. What do you think about moon. Phases. i'm not really a big moon. phase guy You know some of the biggest year that i've That i've shy in africa's i do my best that You know trying to pattern these deer and i normally. I'm pretty good at it. but you know. Some of the biggest deer that shot they didn't follow moon phases and You know the deer that. I'm hunting right now that i've been hunting for two years now. It's a really really nice massive mainframe a is probably about four and a half year on right now I could send you a picture of it later. But i'm so in my experience with mature bucks is there kind of mature. Books are about the same as like elderly already retired. Humans you know how like your grandma. Grandpa contact go and they'll go to the store this day and then they casino this day and then they'll go and visit on this day and they go as they please mature bucks kind of the same way they kinda just you know. They're they're at the point where they're they're they're the top dog they're you know they're king of the hill. You know they kinda wrong that little area you know they kinda just come and go as they please. So you know moon phases. They don't they. Don't really care about them. So i'm not a big as guy never looked into moon phase in my life i don't even know different phases of amend to tell you the honest truth How to hunt the morning and evening thermals so the thermals trip me. Now traditionally i everybody's like oh and in the mornings and thermals arising so you have to be in a stand in the evening they're lowering you gotta be on a ground blonde Well i've killed deer on ground blind in the morning and then kill deer and a stand in the evening so i don't really think of. They play too much of the factor unless you are hunting off fronts when you're hunting. Franz in that pressure is dropping. That's when the thermos by a lot more that they give a lot. There are bigger factor when you're hunting fronts so really. I don't really pay attention to it at all. I mean the only time. I really pay attention to it like i said of hunting franz but even even then it's still kind of iffy on pay attention to it nerve thought of that until you the honest truth whenever i think of thermals. I always think of like hunting the mountains as you got thermals coming off the mountain. But it's pretty flat where i haunt. I've never even put any thought into andoras now during this conversation the honest. Yeah it's one thing. It's one of those things i mean. It really doesn't do that much so like like where i hunt you know. Everything is The the vantage to honing a high pressure area which another not really many but one of the only advantages is that when you are you know tending to a food plotter. You are putting out more on a eyler checking cameras or whatever you're doing when you're in those woods yet like whenever you're walking through it you might bompeh dear to but and yes will run away but in a sense. That's actually. it's actually getting them used to you. You know because. I have these three does At one standby on where Every time a hunt they know. I'm there and they they just don't care because you know that basically when you're at hunting a high pressure get used to you and then with the thermals. They start to get used to your set and you know over time you know with the three does that. I was just mentioning. They know they're not going to get shots. Like no come into this bait holiday have. That's probably thirty five forty yards from the sand and though look right at me and just not even here. So that i mean that's one advantage is of hunting a high pressure area With the thermals. Because it just gets them used to. Yeah that's pretty unearth auto. That's actually some really good info is Around me it is pretty high pressure as well but they still haven't got used to us I am on private land. We got two or three of us at run around there. But i got busted by a doe. Last week when i was out there is still not used to us area. But yeah you it gets it takes a while for them to get used to it so basically like what we do is arm so for our piles. We generally whatever we're going to put out whether it's corner you know Soybean sunflower seeds. Anything that we're going to put out We basically philip gallon bucket of everything that we're putting out and we put one five gallon bucket out every single week so basically that gets us in there and you know 'cause also for us i mean our trail cameras. Each one has a couple thousand pictures on it on every single week. So you know. I'm gone through like eight eight nine thousand pictures every single week so i don't really want to let it go any longer that but then also it just gets us in there it gets it gets them more or less like how Like cattle and other farm animals are. They are starting to associate us with food. And you know i. It's it's worked for me so many years and a lot of people think that it's crazy that deer will will never associate humans with food. But i'm telling you view get out there once a week at amount saying get out there and just walk around your whole entire property. I'm saying Get in there. You know go to your pile dumped a bait leaf. I mean if you just that little bit gets them used to the little bit of sense that you're going to leave because even if you spray down you're gonna sweat or you know you're not you're gonna miss a little area that you forgot to spray you're going to get out and that little bit of sentence to get them used to you and associated with food. Yeah the biggest. Even with those sprays. I spray all my close down a spray. My boots all that kind of stuff but your biggest thing still your breath. They're always smell your breath no matter what. There's no way to kind of cover that up with a natural sent to try and throw them off so just being out there. Like you said yeah. That's that's really good advice and just get them out or get yourself out there just a bit and let them get ucf. I never never thought of that. I'm glad we're having this conversation The other one on the list here is opinion on the com- hunt woods in the morning and fields in the evening strategy So i've never really been a big fan of it. I mean at least for most people growing up Besides kids nowadays Sp- you know and like the basically from the early two thousands and ninety s and back you know. We didn't have all this youtube stuff that you know told us you know had a whole bunch scientists on at telling us what to do all that stuff so it was just a common strategy that you know a bunch of like my grandfather used and his dad used I've never been a fan of it So it really depends on your area. Is you know because a lot of these things. that's the other thing that That i don't agree with with all these Wildlife biologists and you know land management. Specialists is a lot of things that they say. they're like. Oh you have to do this and you have to do that. And the big thing about hunting and specifically land management is. It's very situation so you know 'cause basically however you run your land is based upon how every other property around you is ran so But the hunting in the hunting in the woods in the morning If you are if your say your property is all woods right. You don't have any feels on your property but say the property line is is a woods line and you know Your side is the woods and then the neighbor side is an open field. Now if it's if it's an early season haunt say september. October and say your neighbor has a cornfield. Don't care what you do. The deer are not going. Be on your property because know if if i was a deer why would you move out that cornfield because every single dear in that area is going to be on that cornfield because they can bed down in that and not be seen but then they can also just sit there and meet the corn. You know like quite frankly. If i could lie bed and eat all day and do nothing i mean who would So but if you Saying the same scenario you know you have the woods. Your neighbor has a field. Say that field is just a hayfield There's not you know there might be a little alfalfa You know or rye. Like mixed in the hayfield but not really a good food source for them so the only thing that they're going to use that for is betting at night so during the day they'll be in the woods Basically the whole day and then in the evening they'll return back to that field so if that's the case that's one that applies is the whole you know woods in the morning and feels in the evening because they'll be returning back to the to the field to bed down but it all just depends because you know say another scenario say that field soybeans United depends on the soybeans. Because in assam years here we have soybeans can get like you know almost four feet tall then other years. We soya beans. That are only about two feet tall. So you know in the years where. It's only about two feet tall. They're going to be there in the morning to feed but they're not going to bed there at night but if it's one of the years where it's feet tall velde it'll be like the corn. They'll just stay there and they won't move so it's very situational. Honestly is the easy answer that all deer hunting scenes to be situational depending on where you are even what they do right like dear. Aren't you can't get them down to a scientific pattern. that ever. deers going to do the same thing. They still their own brain. They're gonna do whatever they want. Really trying a net. And that's what. That's what i don't agree with with. Allow wildlife You know allow wildlife biologists and you know specifically like lamm managers like myself is. I look at So before i go to any clients land though some mia aerial view of their land. But i'll also ask for an arrogant view of their neighbors lands. You know say they have Say they only have two neighbors right and and those two neighbors surround their property. I'll look at how their neighbors lance are set up before i even look how their land setup because you know you basically any land specialists. They'll be like. Oh i'm gonna take a tour of your property and they're going to be like you need a food plot their a waterhole there and a bait pile there and front cameras at all of them. The it's kind of they're just giving you like a cookie cutter. Answer well deer. Hunting isn't just you know a one-size-fits-all in i've gone to plenty of properties to where You know i'm like quite frankly. I wouldn't run bay pile out only a run a food plot or i've also on properties where i'm like honestly you have no suitable areas for food plot or i'll so you kind of just got to play to. The travel corridors route to where you have to funnel deer. That are traveling from your this neighbor's property to your other neighbors property and you got a funnel those dear to where you could get shots. So it's not a one size fits all you just got to play to your neighbors honestly for sure Next on the list we got large tracts of land produce bigger bucks. What do you think of that theory. i don't agree with it at all So we had a or my family farm which is about thirty acres which in in delaware thirty acres is a decent piece of land. But you know in terms of land size for the rest of the world thirty acres early. Isn't that big at all. It's actually kind of small but we've sat a seventeen point off of that land. It's not about aunt so bucks in general because a lot of people think that box have you know like a mile home range or what you know. Whatever well mature books or you know A lot of bucks in general but specifically mature books really only have a three to five hundred dollar range. You know if as long as long as you're giving them what they need you know if you it's kind of like humans as why would you go to the grocery store. That's a half hour away when you can get to the one. It's fifteen minutes away if if deer have everything that they need in a small area. They don't have to leave so you know we've had plenty of deer of both old bucks young bucks. Those two were dame won't go more than three hundred yards because they don't have to. Yeah for sure you actually just answered one of the other questions on the list Do big bucks big home ranges which we've now covered yet now the dancers now. I mean as long as you're giving them you can obviously so with the home ranges you can control. How big their home ranges. So you're not going to get it down to an exact area but You know if you're giving them everything that they need within a four hundred yard range. They might only travel up to five hundred yards. So you know the as all you're giving them what they need. They're going to stay in that that centralized area where you have everything you ever sure. Make sure they're comfortable. Make sure they're fed and they feel safe. And why would you. Why would they leave. I completely agree with you Warm weather do you think. It shuts down the rut now It doesn't at all Actually the deer. That i shot last year. was shot when it was about seventy degrees outside I think that warm weather. It doesn't it doesn't shut down the rut and nor does it kinda amplify it I mean it's kind of the same way the ri- it's basically how you know. Basically every single dude wasn't high school. The wrought the boxer chasing around the dues right. Just like how you know a lot. Just basically ever single guy wasn't high school we didn't really care. You know what was happening around us or what. The weather was or anything lately. We didn't care and neither do the box. They're they're there to chase riot. They're there to find oh and to get pregnant. They don't really care about anything else. So and like i said i the buck that i shot last year. That is hanging above my head right now. i shot that when knows about seventy degrees outside and it was chasing them down so the answer is no. It does not on Next one nocturnal box can't be hunted over scrapes. So if you got a buck moving and you'll know you only basically a moving at night. Do you think he could when he does go in the daytime we start hitting those scrapes or no In my experience no so. I have had nocturnal books. You know it doesn't matter if it's you know giant mammoth book or if it's a little spike I have had books that when they're nocturnal and then they come out during the day that they will check out the scrape but they won't really in my experience use them now. That's not saying that they won't because most bucks are kind of like how most guys are they got just wanna to do their own thing and And in my experience with bucks were nocturnal. Come out during the day. Majority of the time it's Related to the fronts. So like if you have a front coming in on they'll get out and get the food that they need before that front comes in so that's most of the time that they come out so Yeah i've had. I've had them check it out but they don't really use it that much. It's kind of like they're there to get what they need and then they're going to go back to their old methods. I have to agree with you. There too Next one big box only rub big trees now i've seen some of the day's digger that i've ever seen all life. They were rubbing the basically a twig. So dear see. This is a common misconception with scrapes and rubs and all that is you know like sprays for example like yes. It is used You know as part of the meeting process. But the reason why that they started is they're trying to get back off their hours so Yes specifically rubs and but scrapes are also the same way they're trying to they're using a overhanging glam just trying and get the rest of off their allergies but then they're using the scrape on the ground as part of the mating process but anyways Yeah rubs i've seen some of the biggest ear do like a rub on the tiniest little saplings that are in your woods. Because all they're all they're doing with rouses they're trying to get the arrest of the velvet off so they don't care how the trees just as long as it gets velvet all. That's all they care about. Basically think of it as they gotta niche. And they don't care what they're using the scratch that they're gonna use whatever's close by type deal kind of a good analogy there. Exactly at your. You know if you're in your house you have niche on your back. You're going to go to the nearest corner. You're not going to go to one. Specific quarter yeah. Yeah we had actually had a video on a trail cam earlier this year a few weeks ago where big eight point just using the littlest half centimeter sapling that was growing right out by the food or the bay pa that he was sitting at so i completely agree. They'll use whatever the heck they can find Bump box leave the area completely or do they. Just get out of the wing. Continue to come back afterwards. So if you If you do the method that i've been using for so many years of putting out a five gallon bucket of food. If you're running a bait ball and your thought out five gallon bucket food once a week If you're doing that method then they will come back so the deer that i've been hunting the best you know a couple of years. I've seen him in person embalmed him so many times and you know every single time it's annoying because it's always at nine thirty in the morning and you know it's during is not during our season so i can't really do anything and it's painful seeing him But now so if you if you use that method they will come back but on the other hand if you are. If only time you're in the woods is when you're hunting. There's they're not going to be you see you at all. So if that's the case then you're that's when you start to run. The risk of you know bumping that bulk and him not returning so it's a as long as you're doing everything the right way then. Yellow comeback right on right on Dear don't ever move during heavy wind So it's not that deer won't move. It's mature ear won't lose it in my experience with us so if it's about You know because. I've haunted a days. Were there zero wind than on days. Where it's like forty five mile an hour winds On the days where words on the days where it's about twenty ish miles an hour and above in my experience that's when the younger Not mature dear. That's when they move. So you'll have you know for bucks you'll have less spikes and four points and little six points and then you have a bunch of does so if you're only goal is to if you're only goal is to shoot a doe and earn a little bach just from meat for the fraser then. There should be zero reason why you're not in a career and applied owning but if your goal is to ensure book than you might wanna reconsider not even going out because you know i've put hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours in injuries weights. You know twenty plus mon are wins and i have yet on any of those hunts to have a mature book step out not even a shooter just mature up all right in the last one. We got on the list for today's crop rotation affecting dear movement. We've already kinda hit it but we can go over it again. I think yeah so it really depends on what it is so if you're talking if you're talking something. Drastic from corn soybeans then. Yeah that's that's going to affect them a lot. Because like i said earlier you know if the When that when that corns up or even if the shore beans are tall enough though get in there the bed in that area and then they'll also eat the soy beans or the corn and only they'll leave us to go get a drink but if it's something Say it's something not as drastic like you're going from like a hasty like soybeans hay or hay too so it means you know or Yeah something like that to where The second plant that you're planning is about the same size as the i. It's not really going to do much. I mean it might. It might affect their patterns of feeding because when a lot of people don't know on which i around us from jeff sturgis who is really Really knows his stuff Deer actually feed up to five times a day on and these aren't exact times their general times a day but deer generally feed around Six in the morning eleven in the morning three in the afternoon six in the evening and around like eight at night there's again there's aren't specific times. Just general timeframes So basically Whatever you're planting it might affect where they go because basically what they do is they go from their beds to the closest food source on what's is not generally the best food source for them and then from there them back when they go to the big food plots are oils. What's that's where you that's what you want. Your is that the second and the fourth of food source are the same and you want you want that through choice on your property. That's where you want to have the high nutrition You know high protein high fat content food for them to wear their ongoing grow. And just stay healthy you know throughout the whole year. That's what that's where you want your property to be and then The third and the fifth all are also the same. But it's also the same as as the first they're not you know the best quality foods. That's where you have like your on your woody shrub. Tips on your acorns. A suffolk that. It's it's things that are that are harder to bond to digest for them. That aren't necessarily too much protein so As long as it's not drastic. It's not gonna be a big difference like as long as you're not going from corn. Hey but if you're if it is drastic than yes it will change. I've actually noticed it on our property this year so the part of the property is rented out to a farmer and for years. He's just a cattle farmer and he's only ever planted corn for years. Just takes it off for silage cuts it early. Whatever in this year he quit running. Quit using field to someone else and they put beans in in. You see a lot more during the day now Before and it was corner it was like you said earlier. I just laid there. They just they stayed in that field near that field. But now with the beans in there less cover for them we get them moving around a lot more through the woods during the day back and forth from beans to bedding type deal so i think they rotation does play a part in it and again it just comes down to cover. So if they're using corn for cover crop they're just gonna stay there but if they switched to beans or wheat. They're gonna move around a lot more from trying to find different bed in areas and back and forth in the bed into the food source so or a joey It's been great talking to you a lot of good information today. Thanks for coming in hanging out with us for forty six minutes so far. I'm always down to new more these for sure man. Yeah you you've got a lot of good info I'm really enjoying the conversation. We're having so i'll definitely have you back on for sure are a man. You have a good night or good day. And i'm gonna get back to my thanksgiving festivities with the family here and we'll talk later. I sounds good. Man thank you.
Wall Street Breakfast February 11: And Then There Were Three
"Welcome to ski health as Wall Street breakfast. Your daily source of market news and analysis. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple. podcasts Gulag casts certified and Stitcher. Good morning today. Is Tuesday February eleventh. And I'm your host. Steve Brown Wall Street breakfast is brought to you. By seeking Alpha premium. Unlock unlock the power of seeking Alpha articles data and advanced tools. Try it today. At seeking out by DOT com slash premium. Our top stories today and then there were three Powell on the hill and stocks advance with virus InFocus leading. Today's Today's news sprint is up more than sixty percent in pre-market trading on reports that its long awaited merger with T. Mobile will finally approved by US District Judge Victor Marrero. That would shut down a challenge by state attorneys general who alleged the tie up would lead to higher cell phone bills despite approval from federal antitrust and telecom officials merging the third and fourth top wireless carriers would result in a company with more than ninety million customers. That would aim the snacks even more subscribers from. At and T. and Verizon T.. Mobile is up nine percent pre-market in other news fed terror Powell is likely to sound upbeat about the. US economic takeout look today when he begins his semiannual testimony before Congress even as he nods to the potential threat from the corona virus in China. The Central Bank lowered interest reeks three times in two thousand nineteen but earlier this month signal to pause and easing unless there was a clear threat of inflation. Moving away from its two percent target fed vice chair. RENDALL QUARRELS MINNEAPOLIS FED president meal cash. Carry and Saint Louis Fed president. James Bullard are all set to comet at separate events later in the session. The S&P five hundred and Nasdaq scored fresh record. Highs yesterday as Chinese workers in factories gradually returned to business while new corona virus statistics. CYSTIC showed signs that the disease was slowing. There were two thousand four hundred. Seventy eight new confirmed cases on the mainland as of Monday down from three thousand sixty two on the the previous day bringing the total of forty two thousand six hundred thirty eight stocks in Shanghai climbed point four percent on the news while. US equity futures suggest a solid open on Wall Street ahead of earnings from under armour Hasbro Hilton and lift more than three hundred. Chinese companies are thinking bank loans totaling totaling at least eight point two billion dollars to help. Soften the impact of the corona virus outbreak. Banks will have the final say on Linden decision sources told Reuters. 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She's been in the role since two thousand sixteen and led the company through a period of growth at saw its global workforce expand by more more than sixty five percent to one hundred nineteen thousand among the tensions employees anger at handling of sexual harassment claims the firing of workers who organize tonight's protests against the company and the elimination of weakly. All hands meetings as well as staff complaints about secret projects and the lack of diversity U s district Judge Dully has rejected a request by Uber and posts mates to block California's gig worker law which will make it harder to classify workers as independent independent contractors while the companies had proven they could suffer a degree of irreparable harm as a result of the legislation. The potential risks to them were less important than in the public interest in setting a living wage and regulating employment. 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UN Suspends Operations After Gunmen Kill Aid Workers in South Sudan
"You're listening to the news office our on our speaker business radio for you one has temporarily suspend that you might say around services in east and South Sudan in people area following the killing of two local Aid workers the United Nations office for the coordination of humanitarian. Affairs said two members have been killed while I'm official business the humanitarian coordinator in South sedan allion has condemned the violence the killings bring to 9 the number of humanitarian workers. So far Q this year in South Sudan that was the news office time on Africa Business Radio. You can continue to listen life online at w w w dot business radio.com or via our mobile app. I am Rachel true gender home. Thank you for listening.
United Nations Warns Of Hunger In South Sudan
"Fuel listening to the news at this hour on africa business radio u. n. agencies of cold front end to fight in in south sudan's jonglei state to enable the delivery of humanitarian supplies for set people in pablo county face catastrophic levels of hunger. The agency said four factors. We're contributing to the crisis. Violence the pandemic flooding and a falling economy does at six point. Five million south sudanese faced a severe food insecurity but novice projected to rise significantly next year. Nearly one point. Five million children are expected to be acutely malnourished. In the coming months the giants message was released by the world food program. Nsf in the us food and agricultural organization. And that's was the news at this time on africa business radio. You can't continue to listen my online at. Www dot africa business radio dot com or via our mobile app. I am rachel agenda. Thank you for listening.
5-7-19 What's News
"The news. It's time for new coal Sandler's. What's news from the coal, Sandler dot com and the progressive voices network. There's a whole lot of scrambling going on over at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Monday said his department would not meet the Democrats demand for six years of the president's tax Meiling saying it lacked a quote legitimate legislative purpose House Democrats say the returns are part of necessary oversight while the administration has rejected the request as part of a politically motivated hunt. This will likely end up at the supreme court. We just heard from Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin that he will not fulfil that request for six years of the president of business and personal tax returns. That requests coming from House Ways, and means committee chairman Richard Neal who had requested this information using an IRS section sixty one of three that he said gave his committee the power to ask for this information. This is of course, breaking. A news and escalating this fight for the president's personal and business. Tax return information. Now, Richard Neal has a few options he can basically sue and say that the treasury department is not fulfilling their legal obligation for the information war. He could file a subpoena on top of that. And then go to court that weighs more than five hundred x DOJ officials have signed onto an extraordinary open letter saying if you weren't President Donald Trump would be facing multiple obstruction of Justice charges. Former federal prosecutor, Jennifer Richards explains why she signed on a letter because I want people to know what the mullahs report found. No one's reading and all they're hearing headlines, and what Bill Barr says about it. But this obstruction case against the president is easily chargeable easily provable case that would have been brought against anyone else. And that's what I think people should know. How did the letter even come to you? I got it from a former calling of mine from the southern district of New York. I think it just kind of started making its way around of people who used to work. The department of Justice. But now that it's public. I think a lot more people who hadn't had a chance to hear about it before. We'll probably sign on who signing the letter left right center, all of the above everybody. I mean, certainly probably more Democrats than Republicans. I would say, but people who worked across all administrations, I think I read that it started with Eisenhower, actually, and you know, all the way up to very recent former federal prosecutors, so certainly some prominent Republican names in bars, refusal to appear before the House Judiciary committee on Thursday and his refusal to turn over the unredacted Muller report to congress have prompted congressman jury Nadler to schedule a vote on whether to hold attorney general bar in contempt of congress CNN's mono, raw shoe has more which says this in the report that they plan to vote on in committee that William Pibor Torney general United States Shelby found to be Incan tempt of congress for failure to comply with the congressional subpoena. Now in this report, they argued that the democrat. Need this information the underlying evidence as well as the unredacted portions of the report to help with their investigation into the present to help with any potential legislation that they need they say that this is necessary in order for their oversight legislative or constitutionally warranted responses now that last part constitutionally warranted responses hinted that one thing that they could do in that committee move forward articles of impeachment. They're arguing in the sense that they need all this information to determine what they should do to deal with the present the accusations of obstruction of Justice determine whether or not they should go down that route of impeachment, which we know at the moment, the democratic leaders don't want to go. But now they do plan to hold the twenty general in contempt something that could set up a court fight that could take some time. The department of Justice is pushing nab ler to backtrack from the vote scheduled for Wednesday trying to negotiate with the House Judiciary committee to find an alternative course of action. The two sides. Are expected to meet some time on Tuesday to negotiate over everything from Muller testifying to allowing the leaders of house and Senate Judiciary committee's to see the unredacted Mullah report and more. Stay tuned. A new landmark report from the United Nations paints a bleak picture of the planet. It warns one million of the nation's eight million species face, the threat of extinction because of us humanity's ever-growing population, and seemingly insatiable consumption are destroying the natural world. According to this report, the global rate of species extinction is listed as quote tens to hundreds of times higher than it's been over the last ten million years shrinking habitat exploitation of natural resources climate, change and pollution are the main drivers of species loss. And that's not the only recent bad news to come out. Another study says permafrost is melting so fast in the. Arctic that it's increasing the amount of greenhouse gases released into the atmosphere and damaging the equipment. Scientists used to measure it if you're wondering what the official administration line is on the melting sea-ice. This is really secretary of state, Mike Pompeo steady. Reductions opening new passageways and new opportunities for trade this could potentially slash the time. It takes to travel between Asia and the west by as much as twenty days. Arctic sea-lanes could come the twentieth. Century Suez in Panama Canal. No, I'm not kidding. And that's just a bit of what's news for now. I'm Nicole sampler. If you appreciate these reports in the Nicole Sandler show, I hope you'll consider making a contribution. My work is one hundred percent listener supported and I can't do it without your help. Find out more at Nicole, Sandler dot com slash donate.
Friday Conversation: Washington Mystics signing Erica McCall talks WNBA Free Agency, Her Journey
"I don podcast every day. Hello and welcome the you fall. I'm your host howard mcdollar my new. You can follow us on twitter at lockdown. Wbz eugene here. Various people talking about women's festival. Whether it's dave evans great i allah and we ought to bear almost every single day. So make sure you are rating revealing us in most importantly should striving because in a lot going on in the world women's vegetable. That's for sure. Lock vegetables brought to you by. She gives you the support you need to make it through the day. Cd freeze and recover is an outstanding duo of topical products. Made sure that you that twenty five percent off your next order at she gi. Md dot com just by saying promo code nba at checkout promo code nba and somebody who is extremely good at recovering. Somebody who has managed to do it all throughout her career so far. It has a chance to do that. Next is our guest today. And that is the great. Erica mccall latest edition two. I think latest addition mischief tradition. Since you right to the washington mystics track. It's been a funding to see and just by way of introduction. I wanna to talk about my experience of you. I from afar. And then upload in the states back to your time at stanford Were you were the epic. Two way player. The offense defense the person who did it all and you can see that on tv to an extent. You know i can see it up late. You know you'd is out in california you start. You dames late for us on the east coast but there are people you stay up for to watch. And you're one of those fires. But i i got to see close covering you at the final four and you get to see the difference. She did to see what it means for. Somebody who doesn't take a playoff somebody who plays for kara and does it in that way. I'm wondering do you understand. For that way. Was that something you learn to stanford now when you talk about the way your name is translated. Choose the pros. I think it's worth framing a couple of things one is if you dive into the numbers have gotten better every single season and doesn't matter which number you use if you go by and forgive my my statistical them but it's one of the ways i look at the i mean i i see it as your tricia in percentage keeps going up you're still percentage keeps going up reflecting you know the ability to be able to get into passing lanes and do what is necessary in. You're playing with minnesota. Last year full of ultimate i know cheryl charts deflections and i know that is a significant part of the damodar. You talking about timing blocked shots. You are not one of the big big in this. Your block percentage just insistently a going up and be among the very best. You're at four point. Seven percent in indiana and twenty. Nineteen my question for you is. How'd you manage to separate your individual damon stills and improving those with the fact that a your teams have changed a couple of times here but also the fact that yet to hone your game differently when you're playing you when you're playing overseas. I mean you're not really missing any shots overseas this year. I do have to shout that out you. You're shooting sixty seven point five percent from the field. Do you feel like you've reached another level offensively even beyond where you are. Let's say at the end of the wobble this past summer. So let's talk about that comfort in translating it back now you and this is a quote from a piece you wrote for me actually At high four to switch which is a real budget for me. As far as i'm concerned you wrote. I have dreamed of singing in front of thousands of people which you did with carrie underwood which is not many people experienced. But i also have dreamed of being a wnba champion and an all star so as you looked into what was free agency in a new way for you this year. You know in way for a lot of people this year. I'm wondering what were the ways in which you frame the way you thought about the way you were talking to change. What were you looking to hear from teams who you're talking to right. Is it no question when your sister. Alana bonner went through free agency. Did that help that. Serve as a model in some ways. I know you guys are at different points in your careers. Obviously but was that a useful thing in did in any way change the way he thought about all this sure. If it's a an unbalanced schedule Us each other a little more being in the same conference. And i'm always amused. Seem to have a good amount of fun with people on twitter. Who don't know that you guys your sisters and trying tell you how good she is or vice versa. Which i did it but you know to your point about getting better and plane for my. You know it's hard to limited this dc team. Not think there's a real opportunity to be if not just the champion a chance to be as dominant if not more so than even learn twenty nine thousand nine you know. How much do you feel that. Plays a role in your thinking. About what twenty. Twenty one for you. But his position lewis as the other part of it. I mean all all of that is true but so many the pleasure talking about and that feels like a particularly specific good fit for you and game that you play is that something that is appealing as well disassembly. Here's the other part of this. That i keep thinking about nineteen going back to for you today. Then opportunity to play regularly is something based on what you're -ccomplish stanford the type of player that you are. You would make a lot of sense. There are just so few opportunities in a league where there are twelve teams total and there are not even necessarily twelve players per team based on how the works out. You end up with someone. Virginia hundred and thirty five hundred forty players. But you're talking about under a hundred regular rotation spots on a regular basis. You come from my view. It looks as if the talent is so significant in this in this sport. Dat having only twelve teams is really doing a disservice to a lot of people. Were coming into the league. And i to me if we got to a point where the lead tag twenty teams or twenty four teams. I don't think you would see a lack of professional talented quite the contrary. I think you'd see more people get that opportunity. I wonder and there are other aspects to it. Too and cathy engelbert as thought to me about this among others that you have to expand when there's an ownership group in place you have to expand when it's own emissions financially you want to grow in a sustainable way but just to tell perspective. How big should this league big you. You think you're making the argument that a player who can play the three four five to overcome folded in hit sixty seven percent or shots Deserves regular opportunity. Yeah i see that i it. Just it's so true though. I mean it's in two ways right players like you. Who deserve more of an opportunity to play. Readily and there are players. And you've seen you've played with them and you know that don't even get the chance to play professional league simply because they go into coaching. because there's a limited number of roster spots here and going overseas is as you know a real challenge and so we ended up seeing there's this huge talent pipeline that keeps popping faster and faster but we're not getting to see as many of those plays the way on the men's side it's not just fifteen per roster and thirty thirty rosters in the nba but you've got an entire geely of almost an entire thirty more teams. Who can make a living doing it right here. It has to change for all right. Our for will start with four but yes we need to we need. We need full equality. We need to get. I'm one percent of the needs to be wanting to bay area. We need that yesterday. I am with you even even though those names will also be played pacific standard time. And i'll have to stay. I'm willing to sacrifice. I'm willing to make that make that that march show when you talk about your role in this league i the thing that when your name comes up in conversations i have is always positively. There's always people had someone have something nice to say. You know coach. Show everyone along the way the flip side of what we're just talked about is when there's a short of a small number also spots. How much is building relationships. Important to building a career alison. Is that in your thinking as you've moved forward in this professional world. Who who are you most excited to meet. Yes it's it's gonna be fascinating to see. And just in fairness i believe when mike on made the trade for elena delle originally. He squealed as well. So i wouldn't i. I wouldn't choice about that. I know he was awfully excited. So let's talk about speaking of trades. There's been a remarkable amount of action. I just kinda want to set the scene if i could A little bit. Because i i've done this for for a while and the thing. I have worked hard on an pushed in a lot of different areas is to encourage more and more reporting whether that's You know. I worked to put out salary numbers on a regular basis not because of any interest in invading privacy. But simply because you can't really cover what a team in do otherwise without having that context of what salaries are being paid to whom and what opens slaughter reveal all the basic things that we take for granted in and they'll be and in the nba. And you know immense sports for very long but then in addition to it when these stories come out as as breaking news rather than waiting until there's a press release that the you know the very end of a process it amplifies it over and over and over again player access talking to team wife talking to teams z zero in on a decision. You know when we think about that. Four percent of the debts. Throwing around. While i'm twenty four to one for men over women comes from union have how ensures was trevor bauer before he signed with the dodgers and so from that perspective. It struck me as a huge win. But i also would point out the following. There were players in the league. Who did tell didn't like the fact that people were asking about pibor asking after what they were doing and and there was a certain feeling of like you know what about my privacy. And so i just i just wonder as a player you and i talked about this stuff. You know of off the air a million times they do get it but i just wonder like. Where do you think the league is as a whole in on the players side as far as this goes. And what did you make of The level of coverage overall. Is it. sure i love it. Stuff stiff is one of my favorites too and again. Yeah i dug about to that. I haven't really slept in the vestry. Which is the best kind of not sleeping. You know and just to be able to see this. Be able to understand that the wnba and i can tell you from the media side from established media outlets where i was trying to push and continue to try and push to do more to do better where i would here. While the w. isn't the full year twenty four seven three sixty five enterprise. why. I started the next. You know heiko hoops before was because it very much. Is it twenty. Four seven three sixty five inch and we're gonna prove it every single day and so it's be able to see this. You know it matters. Because the attention on the lead drives revenue and the more. The revenue is driven. The more i mean you guys need to hit a revenue in order to get a fifty fifty revenue share and should and so the more revenue that's driven to this lead the faster that there is money that's poured into it and the fact that we bring about equality of that goes along with an. It's an interesting thing for for media member. Because i i'm not i'm not here to be a booster right. I'm not here to be public relations. But i am here because i believe in the mission and i believe that covering it. The way men's sports is covered is the way that we bring about social change. So it's it's gratifying to hear you say what i'm trying to and i'm glad you're enjoying it as much as you are. I also i also think just when it comes to twenty twenty one year and a half an opportunity. Obviously in front of an often sold out arena. You're gonna be front of dc fans have really showed up in twenty nine hundred eighteen. It's a different experience than obviously You know some of the time in indiana and then all twenty twenty where you're not playing in front of fans. How much did you miss that. Here i understand overseas is a different story. But how much did you miss that here in the united states being able to do this in you know in in your home country yeah search is suspect looking at that roster that there won't be allowed illusion by forty and your future planning in dc by. I look forward to every bit of it. I look forward to getting back in. Arena myself no no offense to zoom interviews but there's something about doing it in person. that certainly very different Arkansas it is always a delay is always a pleasure. And i look forward to our past crossing every time it happened. So thank you for taking the time. It's a forty year. I in major league baseball. Here's what else our local experts are locked on today. Jacksonville jaguars new head coach. Urban meyer is already on the defensive about his hiring of chris oil who has been accused of making racist remarks and bullying players as a strength coach at the university of iowa expert jacksonville. Tony wiggins addresses the controversy today on the lockdown jaguars podcast in major league baseball. They will open their season on april first with the new york yankees hosting the toronto blue jays but they are only one of fifteen games scheduled to play that day it will be the first time that all teams played their first game on the same day since one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. The blue jays have been one of the busiest teams in the off season and our local expert in toronto. Aj andrews has all of the these spaces profile this week on locked on blue jays. The boston celtics got a much needed win on thursday against the toronto raptors. All has not been well for the boys and beantown. What's going on in boston. The answer is on the locked on today. Podcast all of the sports news. You need and under twenty minutes. Subscribe to lock on today today. Wherever you get podcasts. You're up to speed on your local team now. It's time to go national lisbon to locked on. 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How Kovalev wins
"This is sports illustrated boxing podcast called the Boston leader. It's sort of like getting of Canal Alvarez Sergei Kovalev one of the biggest fights year talk a older we'll look back for a minute what we saw Josh Taylor Against Regis program that with Kevin and with a little later on Ryan Garcia one of the most popular young housekeeping note if you like this podcast very easy can support it head over to apple podcasts post a comment Elliot's in senior writer over at Yahoo Sports joined by my broadcast colleague but I hope you know that the only reason I'm doing this podcast because the Great Kevin is easier but some subtraction here trying to get a little lets talk boxing we got greatness in our presence for Kovalyov Against Canal Light heavyweight championship of the world that Saturday live on his Asian fight with regis a against Josh Taylor I thought it lived up to expectations just your takeaways from from that fight I love the fight I thought both guys fought tremendously Two of the judges in fact the one judge who had at one fifteen thirteen he gave the twelfth rules they would have gone to a fourth judge who had had Taylor went in the fight but I just thought that that Taylor went up and down a lot he went to the body came up to the head he threw those hooks I mean what are you looking for and what did you say I seen amazing bodywork by Program Zealand a really really good body shots I think tweeted he's he's all the action and control the pressure from program is not that great didn't fight his fight it was a damn he would come back with more punches that you could see cleanly and he was just a better more effective really really damn good boxing exhibition by by both fighters but especially Taylor search point down the line Taylor of course now we hope goes off and fights a hundred forty me like that do you see that some one of those two guys because of styles having an edge one way or the Hooker Ramirez fight because it started off their blasting away right but I would love to have seen a power pressure fighters so it's a second half fight Taylor has all the goods is the streets of course Taylor I guess promoted by cyclone but I have a feeling that he's GonNa wind his way in there Ramirez is going to go through Taylor might decide to do the same but middle to late next year I mean that fight work with other people I think that's a fight that they can make and I think the fighters themselves are going in because if you would have said two years ago the Jose Ramirez would be fighting the elite guys long way from the Olympics he was kind of protected fighters you came out but this kid really one of the best of all time but I think you know Freddie didn't have enough time to devote rouses in there and I think that's made a huge difference and we see that in his game yeah and let me ask have to do on some kind of linear type platform I don't know that top Eddie of work together in the past certainly Ramirez soccer great example of that I I'm them I do undisputed against former undisputed we know how tough it's been for top rank to get fights that way just because I think you have to somehow work together to make the big fight and if Taylor would be great in Las Vegas has a design show right put it in Las Vegas and how having a lot of good British fighters you're GONNA get a lot of people come in Ramirez's people travel to really be a big thing for boxing that would be good so that would be but if he's ever going to have aerospace fighters Crawford it's not going to be in the next couple of fights and so you're you big fight for us but I think Las Vegas Ramirez so far back I don't think and one thing for program to see if he decides to continue relationship with three sort of lower level flight safely with hooker like give him one bounceback by he says he's GonNa stay at UH promoter likes working with zone I think we're GONNA see a hooker program Alex but no I think I think that's the type of fight Hooker Hooker Program makes have you afterwards he says man I lost it's all right you know he he didn't he didn't say I got robbed has and I follow him on twitter you know he's just he's a he's a family man zoe program you're just throwing compliments out there modern day now you're like Bernie bothersome I think when you when you look at program I mean I think he's GonNa get bigger than rather than smaller Miss Erns and he'd be he became a legend that is I I like of a fight Hooker in program why don't you think I mean Mo- hookers got the reach of light heavyweight basically but you gotta learn don't you fight but I think that you know I'm just speculating what it would look like and I think Mo- Hooker here in Las Vegas Canal Alvarez jumping up a couple of classes take on Sergei Kovalyov a bodywork that would be the big factor there but also this I'm more interested I love this fight in I criticize Lillo a lot he finds it guy that is still a good fighter is Kovalov the best that he gather himself and come back and win and he showed a lot of heart and now he takes this fight in his early part of his career you know he used that Jab a lot you know he fell in love I think with his right he's GonNa have to box against Canelo I think he's going to have to try to keep Kamilo at the end of his job fight can those a superstar most of the it goes into Danny Jacobs everybody was picking him Nello. Alvarez is a very strong favorite to win this fight but I think that while I do a guy who has knocked out power Kelly's Chin is legendarily strong but we don't know how so we can go I love the fight I think in more credit to him but I want to touch on that great that's a great point because cove live is hello one forty pro debut was at one thirty nine and a half and he's moving up to a big point I think personally Cova live the way he wins the decision I know it sounds in half that's why he's such cruising behind the jab starting to stay in the middle of the ring and box Leonard and I think you've had a similar conversation about his experience with Donny Lalonde and Vita than him but that I punched on him where he goes off Faulk it's GonNa be a long night he said okay that's out of the way science to shine now but he said he had a dream in his last few fights you went twenty four rounds like Lofton the last twelve he stood there and took took and that's the way to and that's the reason this fight shouldn't be a five to one I agree with Kevin owner I think Buddy mcgirt was a great addition this part of his career Oh wait wait wait wait wait wait Jin trainers late in their career because they already got knocked out that invincibility whoa you're not so lighter punchers can't change train and all okay no because power is not their problem thanks to their to their same trainer forever was fine because you weren't a huge hitter loyalty. I told them that I was in a beat Mr Boston College in chess and I woke you're like the referee search you want to get your take on this as well but let's start with the judging selections Adalaide Byrd Alarm went off when I saw Dontrelle on that as that third lear round frigate off gin he scored it for low Alvarez his talking today about the rubber match happening right now as opposed to sitting here talking about Sergei Brainer and he and he had a brain fart and he didn't he didn't get a correct I can Nilo Laura a lot of people thought Arizona's Laura B. B. Canal and can look at that I had to say you Never WanNa think the referee or the judges are going to be have a bearing on Agassi Welfare for Seguida Quick Quick Question Save Cannella with very favorable scorecard in that first Goliath can fight so what can they do about it if they've picked up these judges are you comfortable and then and then and then we're GonNa get and the worst we just toss me is in Boston it's different it's like well we gotTa Complain Fire and find a you've covered boxing for a very long time what kind of influence Aga- says I can't for people who don't know the way it works in Nevada is they put out a list of judges that they're going to pick they so I think that they could say hey look we are not comfortable with Dontrelle because although Alvarez and you put up a fuss they have enough people that they can take from them that he he made a mistake I think you have to give your fighter the best chance to win chicken crowd is cheering for Carmelo and Kevin let's be clear we're recording this on Thursday afternoon I'd still go nuts at the way in or something I don't know I'd still throw a hissy fit I attention to it and I think that's made everybody stay on their PS and QS and I think that Bob Bennett would have suspended her like he did I do not think he would have done that but I think the fact agree with that but I was at seven five it's Kohl's fight close ron you might have thought differently than Dontrelle Natalie didn't miss out one that the one of the rounds adults Sergio referee I think one of the reasons he was chosen is that he doesn't have a deep history with Canelo talk to me about the importance of WHO's refereeing your signature fights he doesn't have experience in the magnitude magnitude of this type of fight he's done Bob you would you want him to do well I just don't underst- I don't understand why he chose I S. in the business yeah signature moment in that wilder fury fight fire a lot of referees been more does well I just don't understand why he got the opportunity but just like Trillo this is wave at of course it's dark it shouldn't be there should be the best referee in the talk about as he did not want twenty weeks referee in this fight because of the way Tony weeks you go to the well a second time and I think that might have been one of the issues that he didn't talk about here the fact it was a fight at the hard rock who was he fighting in the bantamweight title all and I think Russell's a good referee when he has two guys that'll box and stay away and they're not closed that distance where he neutralizes Kovalov power and then he works the body a and all that and that would be my concern if I don't have a tremendous amount of concern I think that would be my concern let me ask US Kevin I think one of the concerns Kovolev side has at the referee and that fight did a good job letting it go obviously it worked out for co coming back to knock him out I think hitter does but if one's trap getting teed off will Russell would much rather have that fight stop one punch too early and see Sergei I wrote this in my column I wrote on Pat Day we bear a responsibility to this because the in that fight and at the end of the ninth round Max Interpreting Teddy Atlas bear hugging him and saying come on S. often to say that that guy quit is a disservice to the fighter and then you have to be willing to stop the fights so russell probably will stop that fight if that happens her to stop those fights because we have to do something to prevent those tragedies from occurring eh where he's at mentally in a situation like that I don't even know Sergio here's the thing about quit I but I would use it with waters when he fought Vasily Lohman Janko Nicholas waters the fight there's there's times there's plenty of times where fighters have quit they don't WanNa continue there's but a person like Max Kellerman Person Chris Mannix especially Chris Mannix shouldn't be able tired you could say that I've never get off the street he didn't get off the stool had enough I don't even think that was better than saying he quit but I don't even think that was knocked him out in the amateurs in addition to all the stuff you talked about he knew he was knocked out in the amateurs don know he would have started throwing punches and try he was overwhelmed he was compromised I I had better be of six to three I had deserve get depleted and you're fighting your ass off and you're getting hit by this monster and round after Sergio let me finish with this the conventional wisdom of camello against Coppola Colas hits the body a couple of times he was knocked out by Andre Ward with questionable body yes I think Kovolev is vulnerable to the bodies we've already seen that he's vulnerable and hurt to the body to play anymore Cannella is one of the best body punches in the business and if Kovolev is gonna they said no they have not sparty for that's going to be a key that was going to be key to sporran he probably wasn't as as a smaller disadvantage do you see it how do you see the body attack as being kind of the deciding factor as a lot of people sort of believe I think buddy mcgirt might make a little bit of difference Aaron and work and change some things in his strategy is going to be a big difference that's why pick Canelo Alvarez by decision in the fight I would rainer I think he has confidence he talked to us the other day Sergio about the fact that you said I've never technically changing his game and so I think that will make a difference because even if it's audie work will be the difference I I say one fifteen thirteen for canal what is that Dontrelle with the Internet now and all the squad we're GonNa talk about the broadcast pot I think if he wins this fight yes I think if he doesn't win this fight borderline watch this to me hall of good fighters out there right now I mean how about this hypothetical not to get too off track Ortiz again it's not going to really resonate with me do I have time to go down the hall so I'll just say this and what he did to boxing because if you look all his biggest fights Lennox Lewis evanger holyfield but if he goes out there and he fights Tyson fury again any five Anthony Josh Rogin then you say hey you know what he's all of famer but if he didn't fight Luiz Ortiz and he retired tomorrow he said aberrations like where it's like you were just so larger than life and did so much the last few of them they're all right fellas always appreciate it Kevin you and I will be back here on that one amateurs Sergio he did all right so of raggedy old sweats you love how comfortable they are to lounging but how often you wear them out of the House all day everyday pants closed the gap between stylish pair and comfortable where they have reinvented beats out door style the perfect pair for guys on the go I spent a lot of time around my Paul or somewhere inbetween they fit perfectly the design details like the elastic waistband with because choose from I had trouble choosing my favorite these the all day every day for a reason perfect taped at checkout always with free shipping and free returns don't sleep in this rare patient with Ryan Garcia I rank are one hundred thirty five pound lightweight big moment label shrines some guys don't like Devon Haney gets a little he gets mad about this fight to me is fascinating because even if there was no back story it's a good fight do knows a guy down the perception was that Ryan Garcia was ducking do no like three weeks because every thought Ryan was doug I know everybody they had this that would be the next guy fought you know so it wouldn't matter you know in the cup in upcoming months of course and what was the how crazy was that for all kind of play out on social media to hear a lot of people were saying a lot of things about me had so much negativity on on the Internet you know when you're not doing something wrong we shouldn't be scared to stand up for what's right and a little bit I'm not gonna lie but also trusted like maybe if we sat down and you know we finally talked about the issues from Oscar May Eric Gomez when the people golden boy that assured you that you were they know what you want to hear it so I don't hear that I just WanNa see maybe yeah you're gonNA give it back it up with some chain so you feel like you're in a good place now with I seen a shift that like my whole career was all about fixing things that needed to be fixed on the type of light focusing attention what's going on it looks bad look so it needed to be fit so as you want to fight but so many people thought maybe you didn't WanNa fight it I just you know come into this fight the Soviet if knocking them out cold in one or two rounds like I feel or he you know with war with him but it was still either way I'm okay was that the ED drama the twitted the game reported by every person on twitter way in day they could find if they wanted to crazy man like fight crazy that's wild that's definitely a documentary walks in really but do you get I've talked about before but you get the sense that like teased type of level do you get that sense yeah do in the amateurs the focus on me like Oh shit like this kid he just beat Evan haning you know just be some shit fuck you guys talking about man I social media and the public I can't take what people are saying good about me or bad just keep moving forward I'm twenty one years old I have a long time in my life to get better take that with you there they would I mean who would it right like you could reach I'm already and it was before my first time on a TV I I was gonNA fight on TV and it goes viral on his page goes to facebook in Pibor town send me it was just like what the heck is going on I just took advantage of it I anybody else and then ah did knocked out the guy in thirty seconds and they put myself on sportscenter so it just kept going and going I it's just it's just certain things that you gotta find what what your followers Oh yeah and I'm like I'm not that cutthroat it'd be more like a I like to explain walkman x like you have to go shit some nastiness it's not what I do at this this ship can twitter high and any IB became number one in the nation you know definitely right there he went he for some reason humid pro so we weren't gonNA fight it anymore so I cleaned out that division do I can knock out these guys quick and I did now do you I wanna start like he was building his social media before all by me it because when I remember when I was in the I was doing my first pro fight either and asked my friend how do you do that then some people would say oh he bided this mb stare and then when I tried that I blew up crazy and I know everybody shocked Dan Yeah I really looked at like other things and I was like all right how did I learn from their 'cause I'm not I like how he did that like let me use let me do this I'm not a very prideful person win something from someone like it's just 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Hard Factor 2/20: Bernie Is a Runnin' Again, Ever Wonder Why There Are So Many Catholic Orphanages ?, Hottest Trend In High Fashion: Black Face
"Wooded you Joe, man. Randy savage this factor in the risk. No one that does better. Now, does it better repeat myself? Go ahead told me something right now. Moderate. Welcome to another episode of heart baecker it is Wednesday February twentieth mixture to go get your heart factor. Good morning coffee mug before they all sell out our top stories of the day. Mark is going to do about Bernie Sanders being back for the twenty twenty election. What can you repeat that? Yeah. Yeah. He's like an elderly little job activator. Do story about big news out of the Vatican spoiler, it's about forbidden sex. So more of the same west going to do about rampant racism in the world of high fashion. Yeah. The spring color is just racism. New. Battle. Tickets are lightning round of other headlines stigma way, Mark I love the dollarshaveclub everything I need to look feel and smell my best. What I love even more is the fact that I never have to store. 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And after that the restock ships regular size products at regular price. So what are you waiting for get your starter set now for just five dollars, dollarshaveclub dot com slash heart. Del shave club dot com slash heart. And you guys feel that can you feel it? What is it? When you feeling is the burned condoms as much as I do. But because Bernie Sanders is back baby. The Vermont native a former presidential candidate who was born on September eighth. Nineteen forty one announced on Tuesday. He's running for president again in twenty twenty. He would be eighty years old eighty and a half by the time. He was inaugurated if he were to win and well over eighty four if he lasted the full term that's old. Could you could you imagine terms? Eight year old Bernie in there. That's what you want. Three year old traveling around the world tried to make peace with the bunch of leaders. That's what you really hit your stride of power as we eighties. I find p breaks in his in his future. Yelling at the thirty year old crown Pinson, Saudi Arabia's crown prince crop prints. You gotta speak up putting a catheter. Anyways. When asked to in the morning interview. What would be different this time centers applaud we're gonna win? So their goals confidence confident. Yeah. But come on one confident the oldest president ever was Ronald Reagan. And he was nearly seventy four years old when he was elected for a second term and President Trump would pass that if he were to be elected for a second term, and he's currently too old jolt. He's already tool, and he looks a lot better than Ronald Reagan. Yeah. But it doesn't sound young. His he's like he's old go go out some interview footage of Trump from the eighties. And it's he's a different human saying too old. He's already senile older older and larger he's he's too old. Currently look Scott there should be an age limit. I think on how old a president can be for being too old to be president. Just like there's one for being too young. I was going to run this year. I can't run you have to be thirty five thirty five by law. So why can't they cap it at say like you can't be over seventy at any. That's ages. What's not ageism because being thirty five is ages Williams. So it's no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me let me explain this. Like the Joe PA of socialist Bernie Sanders. So it's good to see him getting worked up out there. And if you don't want him to be elected again, I think you just going to die. He doesn't know anything else who's been in a lot. In the United States, eighty something. Like, let's on its ageism to be thirty five. It is ageism if I lamented seventy practice, there's already ageism we don't need a seventy plus year old was not you want. Joe also not coaching the team just just throw that walking. He was walking around and just call relate a little boys getting banged in his locker. But why should make them take should make them? Take driving test centers allowed this to be the president. Dr yourself drive yourself to the White House. That's a good test is president. He's going to be able to wants to kill Bernie Sanders. That was sure octogenarians are seventy I love. Over seventies. Like, enjoy your patio. Swing and Tom Collins old. It's not run the greatest country in the world and try to solve everyone's problems. I agree. Oh, the presence bedridden again had a marathon with the house under the weather off. I mean, there are so many democratic candidates though, for president now that we should actually do the Royal rumble that we joked about and Bernie Sanders coming in as surprise number. Thirty entrant is pretty bad ass. I would love to see him in wrestling underwear wrestling shorts. I just wanna know. What's what's under the hood? He definitely he definitely just basically came into the into this ring with a steel and just telling everyone he just crushed any far left person. That was hoping to get everyone that currently announces like fuck the best part of this though is that Larry David is going to characterize Bernie Sanders now every Saturday night, which is awesome. Because Larry David David has got to be in consideration. As the goat. The greatest time. Seinfeld and curb your enthusiasm top ten maybe one and two comedies of all time. My favorite joke. Larry David's is when he said he almost died masturbating with the temperature of one hundred five. That's the closest I've ever came to dying when I masturbated with the temperature of hundred five that's probably my joke of all time. Great RPI Funkhouser. Oh, yeah. And Bernie were woman your ass in the government podcast sectors podcast. Oh, maybe we could get him on the pod. Do a Little Haiti needs. He's getting his ass kicked into the internet. Jonathan Nelson says I still have your campaign sticker on the back of my truck. So that's great Jonathan and then just waiting. I was I was really hoping this was happening. I was thinking about taking on new thought Prius but truck is little surprising. There's truck Bernie guys. Yeah. Sure journey. Bruce, Bernie broS Honda Honda. What's it called the Honda air? Yeah. Jim Jim Gallo says on the says, you know, it's official because he comes Harrigan, which is good. Here. He didn't really Cohen. He just like mad at it with his hands for the first time in a year grandpa. So there it is nice there. It is all right from one heavy topic the presidential election into another one the Vatican. So strap hold onto your butts guys on Monday, the New York Times released an article about quote, the next big scandal at the Catholic church, and guess what? It's all about the priests. Fucking the church go, oh, how about Dixon this precept of the three dick skin. Yeah. Dick's they got a lot of a lot of my kids are busy. Maybe you can suck on my third. Dick's son. Yeah. So, but this time it's about the secret children that they when they have sex with the church goers, or I guess nuns as well. How got exposed Vincent Doyle, a psychologist and Ireland discovered that his bio dad was actually a priest, but his mother never told him that until he was twenty eight the priests was posing as godfather when he learned he started a support group that eventually led him to getting to ask an archbishop about the situation and the archbishop actually showed him a secret Vatican document that gave instructions for how to deal with unwanted children or children of the ordained as church like the pamphlet. The document also said make sure to burn this document, no later than October of the eighteenth century. Due. Apparently Godfather's also pretty good name for him. Because. Oh, true. This is involved. That's true. We don't know us involved at least. Yeah. Also, that document definitely said never show this to children of the so the archbishop definitely breaks on the bottom of documents that don't even look at them. Yeah. At the end shit. Exactly. A Vatican spokesperson since he learned that from the archbishop has confirmed that the quote, internal documents do exist, and they referred to him as internal documents. So not supposed to be for the public consumption. There's no estimate of how many priests babies there actually are. But the support group that oil started has over fifty thousand members. So it's safe to say that if that's like the number on a unknown support group, the real numbers pretty fucking. We got we got to interview at child or the ordained the shocking stat here is I didn't know that thirteen year old boys could have kids. Oh jing. Your point west took me minute. To to hear the issue here is that the priests fucking anybody, no discrimination. So now the church has well documented child sexual abuse. None sexual abuse and general churchgoer slash unplanned. Baby problems that are all watch bread and pretty much. The most disgusting things possible to have going on for religious all the priests. Like, see it's not just a little boys. Yeah. It's like this is a positive thing. This is spins them. We'll fuck nuns too. If they're around that gross third choice, really whoever's the most scared we look for the person cowering the most from our three penises. The one we have sex with churches empty. Oh, my God fairly the internal documents. Make it mandatory to ask the priest. If he wants to quit and take care of the kid when he finds out that he has one, but there's absolutely no way to enforce it anything so zero out of like, the hundreds of thousands of priests who've been asked do you want to leave the priesthood and take care of this kid said, yes, big shocker shock share. I know you're fifty no life skills. Besides being a priest, but you want to try to join the workforce care. Care father down give you two options option one you stay in the priesthood. And we're just going to forget about this thing option to you're gonna have to raise the baby. Yeah. Keep living living the house behind the church or take care of the kid. We'll just put this one in an orphanage. They'd never have to be accountable accountable for the first time in your life or you can just continue fucking churchgoers behind closed doors. All right, easy choice. Another fun. Fact DNA testing is really the cause of all the shit coming out on a massive scale because the local priests can't hide from the DNA swab. You fucking scumbags. Finally, you know, some of the shifts around from the beginning. Yeah. It's the beginning Thursday. The Vatican is hosting a four day meeting to address all the sexual abuse problems within the church like we just talked about. What's crazy is that? Apparently, the USA is the only country so far where they've switched to zero toddler pollen. Four days solve all the problems though word. It's leap here. Got under control. Yeah. So starting probably start promptly on time to get this thing very twenty nine. So we'll give you February twenty nine. Yeah. Exactly. So maybe hopefully, they can figure out probably not let's take it to the internet. I was just scrolling for comments and this one I came upon it's not even about the Vatican. The sex stuff. It's about them allowing Islam prayers in the church in Ian, WAM on Facebook had this to say if you knew all the occult symbolism in the Vatican, as I do you would not be surprised by this at all as a former occultist, I can tell you that the Vatican at the highest levels has been a loose affair, Ian cult for centuries funded by God fearing people who had no clue what they were actually supporting yet. I've heard this theory before doubt, you have can spend it. How's that? I figured you were out an Email thread, you know, about it west. I don't I don't know anything about it. But I've definitely heard about it. Pretty sure. Into flagellation. Yeah. That's that on that. All right. So guys the this spring color. This year is racism, high fascism racism seems to be in the spring and why not black face knit, sweaters and sweatshirts with nooses for strings. Make a statement wherever you go. And that statement is that I have more money than brains, and I will sue if you touch me, I'm from Virginia. Yeah. So I up we have Gucci in talian designer brand. And if there was one thing we know about Italians is they are the Mississippi of Europe. They love them some good, old fashioned racism. It's not true. Yeah. Well, just watch any talion Premier League mattress Syria match. I should say where black players on the field because they'll just they'll grow bananas on the field. Yeah. It's one of those things that you don't really people probably fantasize about Italy. And how like progressive it is they're more full country. They're more racist than than they get down south on a ountry site. Great line. Yes. So it's showed it showed in their lineup of a black face knits sweaters, which when pulled over the face simply gave the where classic black face with red lips. And all. Yeah. It was real bad presto, and at a cost of eight hundred ninety dollars. How could you resist the great deal on blatant, racism and comfort that press you have to wear it at least twice? Yeah. These are high end racists. Yeah. So of course, these sweaters were immediately pulled from the gallows, I mean shelves to this may of racist fashion, east as everywhere. So, of course, Gucci random apologize and their CEO Marco bizarrely visited Harlem to meet with a group of black folks about controversy straight to Harlem makes right? The Harlem on the source, go go to the Apollo go to the Apollo now flip the coin it was either Harlem or Flint, Michigan, exactly Atlanta. And so they launched ten scholarship programs in cities across the US. And so like nothing says I'm sorry about being racist offering underprivileged black youth five thousand bucks towards like a fifty thousand dollars occasion. So great job Gucci. What's next? I don't know. I don't know British. You're gonna get in on it with something racist. Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna dull Jiang Bonna clan. Inspired rose these prices who afford to be racist. You know, I got one more Ralph Lauren Ralph Laurens going to release a day laborer line for the summer. We have attacked Tommy hilfiger because he is a known racist. Right. Is it? Yeah. Well, I was gonna go Tommy hilfiger on that Ralph Lauren, but anyway, Tommy hilfiger just own slaves. He's really old. He doesn't look it. But he's old, but fashion just couldn't be held down by politically, correct. And sensible people guys, not according to Burberry who recently lodged their KKK line of news, hoodies at London's fashion week sending what looked like a sacrificial virgin white model with aluminum symbols on her head and wearing a hoodie that had strings in the form of a new stay on the runway for all to see you guys. See I didn't see it. You gotta look at this thing. Crazy fiction news. It's a noose on the on the weird clothes butter. I normally cut the strings off my sweat shirts because I don't like them. And this would have been when I immediately cut off. You mean, you mean news the new sort of media cut the news you need needed like a fucking para headed for like thirty feet away. Like, that's that's your new. So opponents of the of the hoodie, including the model the complained about the the hoodie, but still strider stuff down the runway said it invoked symbols of not only extreme racism. But also suicide things that seem to be on the rise in the world to bat. Too bad. Thanks piss off. Piss off. And she's in a complete bullshit statement from Ricardo Tichy Burberry's, creative director. He also apologized saying quote, while the design was inspired by a nautical theme. I realized that this it was insensitive. So yeah, it was supposed to look like a rich person yacht pie. But I realize now it looks pretty much like a typical news Ricardo tissue sitting. I'm talion seafaring, racists or the worst kind of racing anyway. Yeah. So going to the internet, and this one is just something that makes you go. Mike Petillo says it was supposed to be an honor of Kate Spade, Kate Spade and Burberry collab-. God. I'm sorry sat back and waited for the likes some very very. That's vicious. That's that's a I mean, he made hunger for the few of you out there that don't know that. So I'm guessing Mike single cyber that. Let's get into the lightning round. Yeah. All right. Look everyone's favorite time of the year is upon us guys. That's tax season. Just saying that word makes my testicles temporarily disappear into my body. I more or less stopped checking the mail altogether out of fear that there's a letter from the IRS and there and haven't gotten one yet that I know of I recently got a check from the IRS randomly five hundred fifty bucks. That's a trap west. Yeah. That's rough tax year for yours. Truly over here. According to the now, we're all going to get off. Well, who knows publicly we pay our taxes come up, and according to the hard working sexy beautiful saints geniuses at the IRS, right? An average tax refund. This year is down eight point four percent compared to last year. Keep in mind, there's only like a week of data. So it's not that much news. But the main thing keep an eye out for is an adjustment that you might be used to so people they're used to getting like four grand. You might not be getting that because the new tax laws the IRS suggesting you do it's called a pay check checkup, which sounds boring shit. So I don't think people have done it not going to do it. Now, not doing that. So yeah, don't count your chickens this year sixteen year old Nick Sandman the team that may or may not have smirked in the face of an old native American guy who may or may not have been a Vietnam era veteran because a provocation that may or may not have been incited by Pibor Israel rights on the steps of Lincoln Memorial is suing the Washington Post for two hundred fifty million dollars. Aim High Aim High baby fun fact that's the exact amount that Jeff Bezos paid to purchase the paper. What San man's going to own the posts in men owns the post is that what happen if he wins. It's kind of nutty lawsuit. Judge say you own the postal, no San run it like run as you see fit the suit, which is for come kava Dettori punitive damages claims that Sandman was targeted for being white in a post on their website titled for truth for Justice for. Nncholas San men's attorneys made it clear that this is the first of many, suits. It is only the beginning for Fuxing targeted for being white the. Yeah. Yeah. The frivolous lawsuits really making white people. Look a lot better Sanmen really change in the near sympathetic here. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of Americans are frustrated with Washington these days and good low Sutton a name it doesn't sound racist. The editor of a small Alabama paper has an unconventional approach to set things straight his solution. What simple the client needs to rod again. Yeah. Good low outlined his plan in an editorial article with the same name in his paper, the democrat reporter. Yeah. Good lows unhappy about Democrats in the Republican party and just plain Democrats trying to raise taxes in Alabama. And he's not happy about the socialist communist ideology, socialism, you're on notice you went onto make like a bizarre analogy claiming that freed slaves would often time borrow their master's clan. Hoods and horses and ride jus-. This needed to be served, which Clayton Bixby sil-. Yeah. He's essentially saying that respects the hood. It's scary both slaves and whites can use it. As a tool to shut down the opposition for the robe free acid Burberry. Yeah. Loves a robe when the man was questioned by CNN on whether or not he'd written the article Sutton went on record San via wrote it, and then he declined to provide any additional information explanation, whatsoever that Sutton. He did however give them more indepth interview to his hometown paper, the Montgomery advisor stressing that he wasn't calling for hanging of all Americans just the socialist communists when eat some people to do the hanging someone's. Yeah. Someone's got to be telling you, and that's hard factor guys. So the official heart factor mugs has heart factor will alluded to at the top of the show are available for sale now in the barstool store. These mugs made of special designed Otake ceramics. 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Mr. Goodwrench - The Power Trip After Party
"Cardi presented by tra organic seltzer. It's up and welcome to the after party. Podcast the fifteenth day january. Twenty twenty one brought to you by. Mick are organic michelob. Ultra organic seltzer. Nailed it one more time. Michelob michelob. ultra shelter. Thank you very much for sponsoring are some cool with plans. There's a cool logo and those cans out those cans on your computer if you're looking at the stream here on kfi dot com all social outlets. You may see that. I'm always screen. Because my mic slightly off screen which is fine. I don't really give a rat's ass but you'll also notice that the place that sauce normally standing. He's not yeah. And i can't totally ripping because about a week ago. I needed to be across town by eleven. So i had skipped the podcast but not because i had like four spots on my i if i wait until nine thirty. I'm never going to get this done and get to oakdale. Eleven right But sauce what two three weeks ago. Famously said he had to bail out of the podcast because he had an appointment to give car wash. Yeah and zach is bringing the whitest thing i've ever heard in my car. Wash appointment is later Okay she not. The after party is what it says. Zach say hockey yak hat which is a young man and his dad and their own label and they started creating hockey act dot com. Our output feet is fine. So you're here in pa and you need to figure something that is this. We haven't really isn't it. Great yeah was a buffalo yak. Hockey act is a car washes Is there anything worse than a winter car. Wash because you pay the money you're straight and six hours later. Six yard drive drive up. Drives me nuts. I mean you wash your car in the summer. Sometimes that car wash could last like a good week or so and you're like it's still looking pretty good. Yeah i hate paying for car washes in the winter. And i know there's car wash that are listening but don't tell people that it drives me nuts. It's the organizing your day making an appointment. Sox basically what i did is i bought myself a monthly membership to young stats smart criteria so. I gave myself a job because if because if i don't get my car washed once a week i'm like i just wasted a bunch of money some. I'm sitting in line right. But what like twenty bucks a month three bucks. Mary inexpensive twenty five bucks. Yeah yeah if you just go to a gas station and don't even get a dollar or two off with you. Buy a gas and a car wash. They're like ten bucks a piece to really what you're saying is i'm going to and a half times a month. That's pretty good. Plus a sick deal. I can't tell you the silly little pleasure that i take when there's a line of people waiting to buy car washing. I drive to the automatic in the thing raises serious like then you also have distrust wasting money. Spent ten bucks and then it starts snowing. Yeah right wash the damn thing right. I'm going to have to do that. Oh that was a little bit out of my way. And that's the worst thing. Though about a car wash is the dryer time they never give you enough time to do those little trick. The worst. we're getting. We're getting a phone call. Yeah it's l. newman. Oh may i ask. You actually actually are getting a phone. Oh announced that must have been wrong number eric. Anyway i against halfway my have cars half dry and it's already like ten seconds to go. It's like can we give another like ten fifteen seconds car. Wash people who had to be fair. You drive a hearse i. it's not. I don't know i've never driven or owned and i don't own this barring right now. A white car before holy crap right. I can't believe it looked so good when it's clean but as soon as you drive down the street it's like did i drive through a tar by sweet. It's great treasury yesterday man. I'd never for today. I'd never owned a jeep in my life. And everybody's like wait till you can take the top off but there's so much fun to drive and i look for snow. I'm like let's do this kind of cars you buy. If you live in arizona just look sick year round to worry about it right. White cars and minnesota. Yuck no thanks. let's see vegas and twenty days good for you bill. Matthew would listening from australia matthew. How do with the van right. Yeah iran hussy ban. Yeah him and his cow. The ones who visited before lockdown and they're locked down that the island of australia is locked down. And then you have to spend. I think it's two weeks mandatory isolation you pay thousand dollars to hold yourself up in a hotel before they can let you out so if you look at Almost anybody from australia social media. They're basically back to normal besides because they've done 'cause they put in super strict restrictions but there are also australians. They're not a whole american. That i i'm not doing that right so they just got together and said let's tough this out and do it the way they're already back to normal concerts and shit. I mean so so. We have no one to blame but ourselves for being in this spot. There's somebody we know that talked about having to get a sibling over here from australia. And they literally would have put he say basically live at the airport for two weeks or something. There's an airport the same the same thing. So like a four to five week threat of australians. You still follow. Lynn gilmartin from the world poker tour on on twitter. Yeah he got knocked up. Did she really congratulations dude. Wherever the fuck that guy is that guy is lucky as hell we get starting to do The after part of the interview the one time we had her on the show remember. She stayed up to what used to do our live. Show if we do the after party. That's going to be like three. Am australia australia. That'd be cool if we could get her though. Because that's great. She is great next week. This is this is kind of incentive for sure thing. Let me think about this. If it's for sure same we're live. Yeah what right now. I'm just saying we're live so if we we can't go back and cut this out of the pocket. I thought this was a rerun. The point is is is think of all the the people on our talked to in the past sprayed me with tell gross even her erin some o- ag get hit in the face today. You are stops talk whistle. There's no way you didn't poop your pants. I don't think i did. I'm gonna go. Check and see ticks. Wet a lot of times. Slow down there. And i a lot speaking of sweat between your crack sauce on texts. Admitted this is maybe the most starstruck. He's ever going to be as legitimately nervous to talk to this person next week. Because you're a giant fan. Yeah chris is indifferent to hearst. Besides your old people who was here this morning he wanted. He was when he found out. This person wasn't coming in studio. He didn't really care that much but he was going to show. I got some great questions. Sohar jace it lisa. An the porn star biggest porn which also does a ton of stuff with bavaro. Vado levada does sports gambling. Will both levada thank you clearly. Why we're having her on. Yeah yeah. I wanna talk about sports betting. I wanna talk to her about all kinds of so. You reached out to her on twitter. Yeah. i direct message. D'oeuvres super nice. About how quickly did you get back. But twenty minutes. And what did you. Hey do a radio show radio show minneapolis. We'd love to have you on Let me know do a podcast. Did you say we would talk about everything or no. I haven't worked on your. Would you say i haven't broached that yet so she doesn't care i don't care no but yeah so. Yeah so what are your. What are your questions going to be a lot of them. Such as became the going. You gotta listen now cheesy me. And i'm going to be on literally if if like she's bored with sex like if she's still get pleasure out i'm gonna ask it more classes more hot pibor. Classy mention this to corey. I noticed that you didn't cut this part out. Yeah man as funny. I heard the one wednesday yesterday. I didn't hear it. I'm like oh god we've got. We've been central right. And then i heard it again this morning. Did you tell your your girlfriend. We that you're having louisianan. She's gonna fucking no now say she thinks it's cool. Does she. questions i mean. I don't know lots of questions. I don't think yeah what she think. Release donald suddenly. Santa cruz kusak really weird. Sounding guy who can't say on a full sentences sounds attract right. Yeah there's she seen my twitter profile and there's no chance either of us go. You know what i mean. Yeah yeah yeah no. I've been in for five minutes. Hate that question. I'm excited talk to her about stuff days it's supposed to be. Did you guys actually a book a day. No not yet. But it'll be sometime next week. Yeah yeah booby. Very respectful one hundred percent. I like this new push. You're on with the podcast couldn't agree more. It doesn't have to be an everyday thing but like you sprinkle one of those a week. My under great. It was more than the spring. One of the reasons is in general radio. Phone interviews almost always tough because you're limited. We have like eight minutes and there's nine of us on the show. It's just really hard to get a flow and get it going. Plus you can't swear you can't like guinea vibe going so we'll just sort of ourselves the the freedom blank palette for it because you can play some of those clips back on the radio the next day even you get newman yesterday. Our regular part. I love that guy metro because we used to see him at Restaurants buffalo. The bus next thursday next thursday nine. Fifteen bitch I can't wait man. Labor's gonna stick around for that one. Of course yeah. I can't wait. Man i i. I've got so many questions that again. I'll know immediately we will. We will all know immediately at the beginning of the interview. If if there's you know how far we can go can i. Should i ask her that. No well yeah if you want to do i. Also don't want her to freak her out. I mean we're smart enough to take the temperature of the interview right away. You know what. I mean like say that works perfect. It will be fun. I think i started to repeat myself. But i think i said he just ask her. If there's anything in particular. She wants us to make sure we ask her about. That's the best way to different subject. Yeah because then if there's some she doesn't want to talk about she'll drive away. Say i don't wanna save sense. Yeah so good point. I don't know. Man i love doing interviews. People are interesting. It's a really weird question though. I think i know the answer to it already but we could ask her. If we want is i just. I can't believe anybody pays any more for that stuff but clearly there's so much money on it or in it right because i i gotta think if you were a porn star thirty years ago in a studio actually to hire you and filmed you. You got a pretty big check a big check. Now you have a billion cell phones you got only fans you can stream. Why would like a porn company. Truly have a gal on contract or pay her were were. They're the ones truly cut in the giant Right i would just say look. We'll give you the vehicle. But you're getting paid off clicks basically. I wonder if a youtube channel. I wonder if it's the same as music has become. Were like you put out records and then go make money by playing live yeah. I wonder if she'd like torsion sheet. Wall tired yeah. She retired for a while to do like she did. I think she doesn't. Xm let it rest a little. She doesn't xm radio show. Yeah like she's big sports gambling. Yeah for sure. No that's how. I know what you're talking about yeah A friend of ours has met her at like fantasy baseball stuff. Because that's i'm bonus no monsters no. Pa no nordell. Lord no Mitch's boss dust mitch. Yeah you guys switch yeah. His boss has met him. I met her at a like a fantasy baseball. Expos a fantasy camp right yeah. Was he addresses a grim. she's like five one. Oh come on. But again. I i literally have no interest even if no interest because even if you are the man of my dreams. There's something about short fat white guys in the early. He's that do it for me. I would like i declined. Because i know i'm going to disappoint her that i got nothing for her. It's the equivalent is a really bad sports analogy. This'll be like if you got michael jordan. Vince carter dominique wilkins. In a giant dunk contest. Everybody posted fifty s and then lisa. Like chris duncan question. Yeah actually shitty laying out. I can't wait yes. She just sent him a direct message about some videos. She just shot in istanbul turkey. Yep for sports. Yeah which i stood in your life in your hands. I've heard gone suite to oral sex videos turkey hughes. Yeah wow i'm excited just fucking chicken then i'm put it together. I'm excited dangerous. Sex video intern fucking ticket. Oh genius chicken chicken okay. That makes more josh. Gone all right. That's what's the number later. What's the hotline number. I forgot what's the code. Does exactly what argh alameda khalifa dealt with in reverse in america. She's an american. She was getting shit from muslim groups because she was you know you can't do pornography so she was catching a ton of hell and i think that was one of the bazillion reasons why she ended up quitting. But yeah i. I think overseas and do this stuff in. You're you're hanging You're putting your life in your own hands a little bit. I'm just looking forward to ask her about Call of duty because People can change their name to whatever they want and damn near every call of duty lobby. There's always a lisa an in there because they have like clans and they all do. They're really they all. Do porn star name so lease and nine times out of ten. I'm i'm shooting lisa. An how in the face. It's great pat right. I don't even know if there's a way to quantify this. She in the mount rushmore. Yeah she's the most popular is the most popular she really. Donald central time early hawk and help me out here. Her texts ask. Traci lords probably up there christy canyon sika who seek an old school. I'm sorry yeah. I mean girls dirty that name i know she did. She die or something. I don't think she's dead. She in a scandal or something team. Didn't she date one of the dudes and motley crue. That was that was the one that that died with the blonde hair rosy She had a car crash and administer face. Oh no carrie underwood what was no no to face. Darn i armored. Misuse beautiful riley rude. Oh yeah riley. But yeah is brandy love of course. Of course forget about brand. How did we forget. Well what are we doing by. Nordahl could come down. I can't wait to topa. He'll do something weird she said. Tell them please don't think he can handle it. Texas oh you love the alliteration and not liberation. Love the the rhymes. That's nice alexis texas. I sent you the number. And i dropped my phone and that's going to be done there forever now because i'm not down. Screw it roads. Right geno jameson. That's that is a hundred percent of the. She is definitely a ma rushmore person. She's arguably some of the most mainstream success rate because because a stern oh yeah for shares turn changed forever for sure. Yes somebody remind me who the porn star was Dope weasel dated. Who publish your diane. And a very sad thing because she had a car crash. That's what i'm talking about. I can't remember her name. R i don't think our listeners are into this kind of stuff. I don't think they're gonna know about the list of names. They're sending his right now. No it's not kim. Well a lot of these people are going to have to put their hands away to actually type the anti kim. debbie dallas. Kim knows dallas dallas texas linda. Mormon are you wouldn't now for valley gray. All these shows ex-girlfriend why not sunni madison. A lot of porn stars killed in car accidents. No she wasn't killing the but she had one with had a she dated. Vince neal just for me. I think it was vince. Neal she dated a hell. I don't know vince. Neal and paulie shore. Yeah very very close to Paulie shore maybe no dammit linden mueller. Linda was together from the blink. Win eighty two video right or the cover. Yeah wars rosen. Shoes a big. Wasn't she a big stern guest as well yep.
Golden Knights, NHL players stop the game
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We're recording a special episode you guys today because the Golden Knights, along with the other seven remaining NHL playoffs teams decided not to play yesterday as well as of course, not play today. The NHL Playoffs are going to resume on Saturday after the NHL players decided to lay down the station above as a sign of protest against Injustice police brutality things like that after the way of the Kenosha Wisconsin Shooting Jacob Blake by police or trying to walk through the decision today what the players thought process was I understand as per usual talk though is you such as this including when Ryan Robin Lender, Tyler Sagan and Jason Dixon just Neil by these are you know controversial topics for lack of a better word they certainly? Can Rile people up but understand once again, we're going to try to. You know just give you the facts in terms of what the player said, what the players are thinking and ultimately where they hope to go from here before we get into all that I want to remind everyone that the Golden Age cast is presented by Sunday ticket deal in a favorite drink dot com also check out all our work on this Topic Review Journal of course. The Las, Vegas Review Journal Abbas story up on the website today our main story. Done by calling on the other line David Shaney and then our own ingredients columnist wrote a column just kind of going through how you. Back that yesterday it was certainly a historic day for the NHL came one day after. Day and a lot of other sports leagues in the NHL is kind of leading from behind once again. So with all that out of the way Dave, talk you about all this stuff again just I mean for you what was your? Reaction to rally yesterday as you know, we saw playoff games being played Wednesday night out of the NBA decided not to play, and then all of a sudden in yesterday morning Thursday reporting us in price just newest slowly starting to trickle out that something seemed to be with the Shell. I mean I might be a little bit in the minority on this to be quite honest but I think they handled it. As well as they could I, I mean. I. I empathize a little bit with them in terms of they're getting to the rink there. Not Quite aware of what's going on there. They're being told probably this that other things. And I'm sure they'd like to make an informed decision. and. That's really what this all comes down to in in players of talked about this, you know right from the start. That it's about listening and learning educating themselves in. I'm kind of on the side of all this that they took a moment. They assess the situation and said, what's the right move for US going forward in? If that took them a little bit of extra time you know then then so be it because I feel like they got it right? I feel like yesterday what we saw. With those players walking into that room and standing in solidarity. The way that they did was an image that none of the other leagues of have produced. It's the most powerful image I think we've seen from, you know from this movement in terms of. Sports athletes you know just the last couple of days and the NHL produced that and it took a little bit but I think they got it right? Yes. The scene for everybody what was happening is yesterday morning once the recording this on. Friday. We're talking about Thursday. The, two of us we were basically on zoom winning for the. Daily morning media availability before what we thought would be game three in their second round series with over cannot switch courses tied one one and you know I wasn't really expecting to ask any hockey but shouldn't because of course, the national discourse is not around sports right now and sometimes that's okay and we kind of you know, let let it be what it'll be and the nights and Availability got push back. It was pushed back Donnelly. Then, you know you started to hear rumblings from a lot of well respected national reporters that okay. There's some serious discussion among the NHL players select in the bubble and they don't WanNa play today, and then we saw from entertain I who courses Cohen, the university lines as well. The San Jose sharks forward. Had made a formal request the NHL of we think it's okay to today we think is more important to have some the message that some things are bigger than sports. People need take time to relax today, and then ultimately you know tomorrow, which is actually stay. Fridays were quite a mess. On these issues of racial inequality, racial injustice and police brutality, and when we heard from Ryan Rees who was at one of the five player that spoke at a Western Conference press conference yesterday. Was He was actually struggling with his decision of what he would ultimately going to do on Thursday. He was thinking about you know saying he didn't want to play, but he was worried that. You know a lot of teammates might not feel the same. A lot of teams would end up playing the game. Anyway he would then be kind of looked at as abandoning his team obviously a very critical. To, the season and then he woke Extra. Kevin Shattenkirk who the Tampa Bay lightning. Not, even in the same bubble, he was in the opposite bubble, and of course, Kevin Shattenkirk is also a way player saying basically, Hey, there's a bunch guy here in Toronto the one to your brain about that, and then regnery said. To him and like, Hey, we wanna talk to you about what your thoughts are on playing today. So names and cannot read went over to the cops and kind of them and meeting and they ultimately decided. that. We don't feel comfortable today and we would prefer to postpone these games and kind of the focus of the sporting world certainly on issues that go well beyond sports today and so we learned. Officially in the afternoon and my three thirty press conference was held, which featured Colorado Avalanche Center of Connery who was a member of the HDA. foreign aid centering her Colorado Avalanche Center Belmar. Reams. Dallas. Dickinson Nights. Fans may remember as one of the players know alongside of read in golden around and Leonard before a round Robin Game and Captain Four and then they you said what relate? cool about that moment and certainly high speed added about conferences it starting with those five guys walking in and I think you know minus reaction was okay. Make sense that these kind of guys that are coming up here to address this decision. And then all of a sudden everyone. Came in and you could see guys from all of the different teams of filing in the background in support their teammates, and there were several nights players that I saw in the background and supporting reasons he was talking about this issue I believe my national now I got to. have no more than half. The extended roster name any names because there could have been plenty of guys that were also in the matter couldn't see because the camera showed us the whole room but they're. Very good representation of their players they're in support of areas. and. The thousand really important because it wasn't just the players color in the bubble that we're addressing this issue there were a bunch of white players in the background that we're saying we also some of them. And I think you know to reeves words that was the most powerful part of this. This is. You know let's be frank. Let's be honest here. This is not the NBA. This is a majority. White League I think I saw stat ninety, seven percent. Obviously. It's a different issue in terms of you have foreign born players in. European. Born players but. To be quite frank, this is an issue that's a global issue. So it affects everybody and I think. One St took the time in in and. Thought. In disgust and said, this is our best course of action. You know it made a powerful statement that it was coming from those players in Ryan Reeves said that. You know to be fair I do. I do WANNA. Go back because you know I said something off the talk about how I. Think they got it right and I'm going to stand by that but. I do think what's fair to criticize in terms of the NHL on Wednesday is is how they handled things before those games in the buildup in what I think. has started to become clear and I think you know we in the media have done a good job of explaining this. This is a player driven thing. This is not the League shutting down. This is not the NHL doing that the NHL didn't feel like it was I guess responsibility and we can argue whether you know the league should or shouldn't step in that regard, but but they kind of left it. To the players but I think what? What the League handy criticized for especially on Wednesday, was twenty seven seconds before the Eastern Conference game dedicated to Jacob Blake in. An announcement to end racism and then nothing. In the Western Conference game that evening before the Dallas Colorado game so Part of the discourse here in the the difficult part of the discussion is. The NHL's. Kind of. What's the word I'm struggling for hesitance to to kind of dive into this just not so much as a league but but as a hockey culture, you know feeling like this is in our place I guess and for them to step up and say you know this issue affects us and we are not going to stand by anymore. We're going to do something again I do I feel like that was a powerful powerful statement. Yeah another place where criticism Kennedy. Again, we are trying to approach this from you a neutral whenever he was. Trying to explain what happened in the context surrounding. One out yesterday. In. The NHL showed to the delight of some people end the anger of a lot of other. As, I seemed to be more willing to take on these issues when they first got the bubbles. Then we saw the NHL and brain mountain certainly. Jim Davis one of their executives. Were following the primaries linter. Infant Tyler Sagan Neo was proud the star of the bubble their players are being more vocal on these issues. We saw Alana tweet social media most not only teams but individual players and visited individual white players like what are they just like wheeler saying who went to a blackbox matter protests that they are willing to kind of step up and no longer be silent and no longer kinda be constrained by I culture, which technically is a lot about conformity unity? Team Spirit. and not necessarily one individual standing out into the by in the period of that was changing because we saw madame neo before Chicago Blackhawks. OILERS game. Delivering a really heartfelt each about the diversity of mine says mission and why you know combating racism and some of the While I few that are kind of president hockey. Is Important. And the anthem demonstration between the night star team. So really seem like, okay you know the NHL certainly isn't how place where it's headed outspoken and the NBA, the WNBA even major league soccer to an extent national women's Soccer League to certainly has probably been more outspoken on these issues but it was you know moving in direction is moving to me more local negative people can disagree with that. Certainly was the direction things we're heading, and then Wednesday certainly seemed to be you know a different style for the staff back in that was Kinda track that they are on or all for the most part. They were either just silent about it because they played nothing before the stars in alledged played Wednesday night or they were very formative in the driving where they had that brief moment. Remember rants. Before the landing played the Boston Bruins in which in which they literally point. Wish Jacob Blake and his family well. If you you know throw a lot of these young. Some issues. You know. Not Cutting to put it quite frankly. So then to the NC, you know of player, take the reins and say, no. We still we can be different Arina. Think differently on Thursday. Yeah and again I guess I go back to what I set off the top is. You know. So I I'll tell the story. So somebody called right before we got on the podcast when you're talking about this and and and she lives in DC in she's. Very big into hockey very big these issues and things like that and. You know the phrases she used was you know we we needed to shut up and listen, and that's kind of what a lot of this was in is. Is, educating ourselves as you know people who don't walk in the shoes, you know. Of Minorities that don't experience you know the brutality from police in an racism walking into a starbucks and having everybody look. Got Him. You know. We don't. We don't relate to that, but we need to shut up and listen and I. Think you know what you're talking? Yes. We can criticize the NHL for for what it did on. Wednesday but I think a lot of that was. Them as players wanting to get it right and not wanting to be rationed, not wanting to say, oh, we've seen something on social media. Let's just instantly react to it. Let's make sure. That, our reaction to it is appropriate improper and makes an impact in his lasting because I think everybody understands right now whether it's the NBA Wnba you know NHL Major League Baseball everybody has a platform right now that's different than it's ever been. An. So with all eyes on them I, think that's what a lot of that was about. It was just taking their time in making sure that they assess the situation and they do what? They felt correct and from that standpoint that's why I say I think they got it right I'm not gonNA. Say whether you know politically in all this I think they should get involved I. I'm neutral as far as that but in terms of their response to it in terms of just not reacting right away on Wednesday I, actually agree with them. Right, before we move onto one topic on this edition of the Golden Podcasts, I wanNA hear a real quick from. Ryan. Riess. Around US room out. There's a lot of. Athletes here and I think that's the statement. Let's be made right now I. It's great the NBA to this, and then I'll be in the WNBA have a lot of by players in those leagues. For. All these athletes in here. To take a stand and say we we see the problem too and we stand behind you. I go these guys hate their doubts on ice, but I couldn't be more batteries guys. no the statement they've made today as as something. That's GonNa last you know. These two as GONNA isn't GonNa fix anything but The conversation in a statement that's been mandatory powerful especially in from from the sleep. Sunday. Sundays. Sundays are coming back in the NFL with NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV. 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Documentary, which I've been meaning to get to and I now can because I have a little bit more free time today but I'm curious you know what actions are going to stem from this. We heard from a lot of players you know saying we know that this can't just be words right now and Ryan said, you know it's a little bit hard for us to do a lot of stuff because we're confined to a bubble and we will still be combined to a bubble. You know for a little bit after this but I think a lot of people are now going to have their eyes on them does anyone actions they're taking. About the hockey diversity lines HDA, they kind of had a I would say relatively bag action plan Yesterday, which involves things like hope waiting the NHL to sign a pledge that would dedicate the league toward anti-racism education toward grassroots hockey programs the decade or rule changes to make the cultural hockey more inclusive among other. Is still being worked out specifically behind the scenes and when I asked now them Qadri who is a member of the? HDA. Mixture that's about it. Yesterday, he couldn't really dive into specifics but. For you. Damon. You Act on really interesting question too nice. Coach. Pete. This what. Are you looking for kind of from both players and coaches as the sport in general tried to move forward from this? Why I wanNA start actually with what I thought was a little bit the one element discouraging from what they said and I wish they were a little more optimistic in. A couple of mentioned that they knew that these days weren't GonNa Change. Things and. Like I understand what they're saying, but you know what? These. Two days are huge in these two days are impactful and whether you think they relate or should have done things earlier all the all the. They made. An impactful statement that resonated throughout North America throughout Europe. Anybody that follows hockey. So I, I kind of wish as players that they wouldn't have. Kind of discounted what they did a little bit and understand that this can affect changing and yeah we're not GonNa snap our fingers and everything's going to be different by it. This is part of it in and I wish that they would have. Maybe. Puff. They're not puff their chest out a little bit but understood that that this is actually you know going to make an impact in in can affect change now whether that short-term things like. Arenas being used for polling places I. Think we've seen that. The coyotes already and mentioning that that. Healy River arena on the third working to do that we might see that around the league I know that was A. I believe in issue with the NBA players that they had wanted to push the owners to you know have those arenas as polling places we you know those those types of things I'm I'm sure we'll. We'll see they're they're probably working behind the scenes and and we'll come out I know like you mentioned those are the issues I think dozen Qadri. Can't necessarily talk about publicly but you know are high on the list of priorities but. The bigger thing and I, and I think maybe what we can address you know right now in all of this is is sort of the hockey culture in in the racism within hockey culture and how do we change that and and I know that's something that Ryan reasons talked about in terms of you know increasing diversity within the sport and exposing it to you know younger players who? Don't necessarily have a chance to pick up a stick it a young age. It's expensive in getting into to different communities and growing the game that way. I think about things you know part of part of my question Pibor and what I? kind of thought about was you know these coaches they do clinics in talk to these kids and they can talk to coaches and they can change the culture. Things a matter of look when when you chirp somebody your default isn't a racial epitaph. Get that out of you simple as that. You know that's maybe the first step. Get Out of the hockey culture, get that away from the fan base that we hear. Those Things like we talked about in a previous podcast. DEVANTE Pelly Smith in Chicago had targeted him. A you know maybe that's the first thing route that out go from there. But but maybe that's the first step within the hockey culture that that needs to change in and maybe everybody is looking in the mirror I think from all this in there and they're hearing. WHAT DIS like raw. Ryan Reeves are saying, what what other minority players what? Coach like in Vancouver, like Manny Malhotra listening to them and and hearing what they have to say and saying you know what if this is something that I've done in part of me that that I need to change in and it needs to be different going forward. And we'll see what changes will come. The HDA has a plan want Steve Nhl assigned an address, a lot of its goal, its missions, which included a lot of stuff that Davis talked about, which is the cost of equipment is a huge issue in terms of you know only feeling really to upper middle class or upper class people being able to play you know. Afford it. From a very young age as well as numerous other issues in terms of the culture on this for. The NHL also forming a lot of committees. Are designed to address a lot of issues while they have one that's focused on lower levels they have one that's kind of on the culture aspect of hockey. Executive Council that's going to try to create actionable items out of a lot of kind of Ram nations that these lower committees giving then now, the NHL still haven't actually told us who's going to be on this committee. Maybe that's something they are waiting for after the postseason because they don't want to. Distract. From. The postseason when of happening, but it'd be very interesting to see if they choose to release that soon. All happening we've also heard. From a number of people HDA and then even Kevin Weekes. Day when you talk to them a couple of weeks ago, that would like to see you know just specifically, we'll changes in the sport in terms of if you other like a racial epithet whether you're a player or even and that you're building and that that and if you're a player you get fined and. Suspended or both or even if you're coach I mean we kind of had this come up back in the fall in November when Calgary coach Bill Peters was accused of using racial slur towards Chemo Lou about a decade ago in the American Hockey League technically they'll peters is no longer coaching the Calgary flames and I believe he is currently coaching in the cage l.. Technically hasn't been punished by the League yet. Now obviously someone of moot point because like I said, he's not coaching in the NHL. So suspending him for whatever period of time really isn't going to him, but it still could be a statement saying that the League isn't going to stand for this and that's something we haven't seen. From the Lee either so it'll be interesting to see where they go from here once going to help everyone. Found this discussion in cycle or you know and inciteful that could be for to honestly non people are disgustingly obviously very hot button issues that really you know struggling with a lot of people and they should because either and more impact on to talk about to discuss and hopefully to learn from the thing we can all. Grow in the ball by trying to understand other perspectives and trying to get a handle on whether people feeling are feeling and have empathy for that. We've out, WE'RE GONNA go back to Edmonton and here one time from Ryan rates I. Think it was Just, what I said I think. The message coming from predominantly White League has. Figuring nutmegger impact, it has a very strong. On his coming from Clare's like this. Most of these guys have our. Live through some of the stuff that blackout these. they don't go through those those Dan things that they feel that. They've seen the researchers unreasonable other families gone through but for them to say what we see what's going on society and? We disagree with stomach acid changed now that was my message I. Think. I. You know I said that standing together here is. This is this. Article, you can do we're on the ball. Is, not. So you can do outside the ball right now and we can't change anything because we're starting here together. Now that's what we can do. Once again, that was regnery is one time addressing the NHL players, decision chew and not play games or or Friday as a sign of protest, which is a sign that has been done by the. NBA. WMBA. In some major league. Baseball Nature League Soccer Teams racial. 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The NHL Is Definitely, Maybe Back
"It on Tuesday. Nhl Commissioner Gary. Bettman made an announcement. I am delighted to be with you today. To announce the National Hockey League's plans are resumption of play. They have concluded the regular season but will hold the Stanley Cup. Playoff that playoff will consist of twenty four teams as proposed by the NHL. Although we are anxious to get back on the ice will not do anything until we are assured by medical professionals in the relevant government authorities that it is safe and prudent to do so so the bottom line is the NHL is back sorta today. We're joined by the athletics Craig Customs to discuss this new postseason format which teams could benefit. And why the level of play actually monkey higher than what we're used to normally when you get to the play offs it's a long grind of a regular season. Then each seven game series ends up. Just being this battle of attrition in this case these teams have had a chance to rest up. Guys that were hurt at the end of the regular season are now gonna be back on the ice in. Maybe it's just the optimism me but I think the on ice action could be as high as it's been from wondering and the athletic I'm under skelter and I'm beat the Davidson. It's Thursday may twenty eighth and this is the lead it felt like something great something of emotion and not from the past because ever seen. This isn't a story be the afternoon it stays with you. Did you know two out of three guys will experience? Some sort of male pattern baldness by the time they're thirty five the best way to prevent hair loss. Do something about it while he still have some hair left. You used to have to go to the doctor for a prescription but thanks to keeps you can get the office and go online to get hair loss. Medication delivered right to your home. Keeps makes it easy and delivered your medication every three months? So you can say goodbye to the pharmacy. 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You care about their no ads. Pop UPS OR CLICK BAIT. Just great sports writing that digs deep into the story behind the story. Right now we're offering listeners of the lead a ninety day free trial get exclusive player profiles deep dives on analytics team power rankings and fantasy sports insights from our team of more than four hundred writers. Each subscriber gets a personalized feed daily stories on your team's live. Qna's with your favorite writers original podcasts and more sign up to try the athletic free for ninety days go to the athletic dot com slash. The lead that's the athletic dot com slash. The lead to start your ninety day. Free trial today sue. Craig tell us about this announcement that commissioner Gary Bettman and the NHL made on Tuesday. Essentially first and foremost there are seven teams. Who Season is over? And the Gary Bettman closed the book on the NHL Regular Season for purposes of nomenclature recordkeeping in NHL Awards. Two Thousand Nineteen Twenty regular season has been deemed to be completed. So the you know the bottom. Seven teams point percentage. Wise are done and that means there are twenty four that are going to be part of this return to play scenario. There's GonNa be a play in series of games involving you know portion of those teams. And then you're also going to have a round robins for for some of the teams at the top of each conference. The top four teams in each conference were claim automatic berths in the first round of the playoffs. They will play interconference. Round robins each playing the other three teams to determine their respective seeds in the first round and on top of all of that. The the commissioner also announced the draft lottery for the teams. That didn't make the playoffs. And even that's convoluted. This is a bit complicated. As if what? I've already told you hasn't been and I apologize for that. Draft Lottery will determine which clubs make the first three selections in Twenty Twenty Nhl draft and it will be conducted in one or two phases. So Gary Bettman makes us announcement and then we were all just spending the next several hours trying to make sense of it and even now having a hard time explaining it going through it all. It's it's pretty crazy all right. So twenty four teams will have a chance to win the Stanley Cup. What is the rationale behind the twenty four team format to cut it down to sixteen teams? Which is the traditional. Nhl Playoff format because regular season hadn't ended rate so this now gives an opportunity to some of those teams that were separated by decimal points to continue playing. And also if we're just being very pragmatic about it by expanding out to twenty four teams your including teams the Montreal Canadians. The CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS THE NEW YORK Rangers. And the these are big market teams. That I'm sure the NHL in an effort to recoup some money here and by having those big market teams in your satisfying some TV demands. You'RE GONNA get more eyeballs on this tournament and then you know you're you're still able to have some form of the traditional sixteen team. Nhl Playoffs by having this qualifying round which essentially each conference is going to have four best of five series to get into that sixteen again. Already sounds complicated. When I say it out loud well and it was pretty clear from Bettman's announcement that this isn't something that's going to happen overnight and there are still significant health concerns. What hurdles are still left to clear before we actually see hockey again? This is important to distinguish could be because This was heralded as hockey is back in the. Nhl Has a plan to get it back on the ice. The let the record show in this Kobe crisis. It was the National Hockey League. That was the first pro sports organization in North America. To say we are coming back is there is a plan but this is more. Here's the plan. If we get back on the ice in Gary Bettman and Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly Were pretty careful not to put real distinct timelines because the schedule of our return to play will be determined both by developing circumstances and the needs of our players. You know this is a multi-phase effort to get back onto the ice in team still aren't even at phase. Two in phase two is small workouts in in the home cities. They're hopeful that can begin in early June and then it would go on to phase three. Which would be training camps for these twenty four teams in the NHL PA in the NHL? Still haven't really agreed to what face three looks like. And that's even before we get to phase four. Which is the hub cities where these games are going to be played so there is still a lot of hurdles to cross here for the NHL to get back on. The ice in a Batman was hesitant to talk about dates but he did say that a late July or early August start was possible. Do you think that's realistic? Here's here's what I'll say about dates attaching Gary. Bettman said this. When he was talking to the media any time we tried to attach from day to something at this point. We're just guessing what if we have cases in players test positive. I know they said okay. If we have one or two cases we're just going to isolate that player in in move forward but if it's more than that they're going to have to hit pause on this thing so as it stands right now knowing what we know you can see a scenario where they are playing in late July but whether or not it's actually going to happen. I agree with Gary Bettman. You're you're just guessing you know we've seen in major league baseball for example that the players and the owners had a lot of trouble coming to an agreement on restarting the season. What have the dynamics been like between the players and the owners in the NHL? Yeah I will give the NHL NHL PA a lot of credit here because he's two sides that haven't always gotten along particularly well and return to play committee which is the NHL NHL. Pa are both represented on that you have prominent players including Toronto. Maple leafs Senator John. Taveras Connor mcdavid so the players definitely had a voice so this has been pretty lockstep between the PA in the NHL to get this done. And and I think that's a big reason. Why there they were able to make. This announcement is both sides. Seem to be pretty motivated to get games in to conclude the season and I give them credit. We'll so craig after all of this time off. What quality of hockey can we actually expect to see? When the playoffs eventually do begin. I mean I know there's been a long lay-off but I'm cautiously optimistic. That the actual hockey being played if they get back on the ice. I think it could be really really high quality hockey for this reason. Normally when you get to the play offs. It's a long grind of a regular season. Then each seven game series ends up. Just being this battle of attrition like the Rules Change You can hold. You can be playoff. Hockey is completely different. So that by the time these teams get to the Stanley Cup final. They're basically limping in in. Its whatever team is healthiest tends to do well? In this case now these teams have had a chance to rest up. Guys that were hurt at the end of the regular season are now going to be back on the ice. They're going to be fresh so I think it maybe just the optus me but I think the on ice action. If they do play. These games could be as high as been in years in the playoffs because he's player's GonNa be well rested ready to go and in your opinion which teams benefit the most from the expanded twenty fourteen field. Who Do you think got lucky here? You have these teams that were on the bubble that still are going to be part of the draft lottery but could win their laying round and I think those those are the benefactors right so you have a team like the New York Rangers. The Chicago Blackhawks. That you don't know if they were GonNa make the playoffs and now they've been given this opportunity without potentially losing a chance of the draft lottery. So I I look at those teams as real winners in this scenario. Because they're they're almost getting the best of both worlds and and you sit there and you look at Iran one matchup and the oilers are fleeing Chicago Blackhawks in in the blackhawks. Who knows if they're going to make the playoffs? But they still have this veteran team with Jonathan Taste and Patrick Kane and Duncan Keith. And they know how to navigate a playoff game in so they're playing this really young Edmonton oilers team with Connor mcdavid. So they may have been gifted an opportunity to go on the surprise run and and maybe rekindle some some championship. Glory from years past may have existed. If all of this had happened while on the other hand there are playoff teams. Here that you would look at and say they're they're probably not too thrilled about this format. I look at the Tampa Bay lightning. I know they were one of two teams including Carolina Hurricanes that voted this format down. I think the Tampa Bay lightning were just. They were concerned about this format and what it meant for them. And I think it's doubly important because you look at the lightning and they were the team last year. That had this great regular season and were eliminated in the first round by the blue jackets. One of the biggest upsets ever history standing four did switch by the Columbus Blue Jackets against a team that has all kinds of records in now. The comeback they were starting to play great hockey and you know covert hits and then they have this format. That isn't great for them. If you're talking about winners and losers those bubble teams it's good for them Teams at the top. You know a team like the Tampa Bay. Lightning probably don't love this one. What concerns have you heard from? Nhl Players about this proposal are any of them worried for example that this won't be seen as a real postseason because the format is so different. The bigger concerns that you're getting from players is the debate is going to be. What does this bubble of life gonNA look like for them? Let's use Vegas as the example. We'RE GONNA end up playing the end of the playoffs in Vegas is one of the hub cities and you put all these players into their and the they're away from their families. And how long does that last you end up going to game seven Stanley Cup finals? I think that that is a bigger concern for the players. Right now is what is that. GonNa look like. How isolated are they going to be from families? You know there's players that are expecting to have a baby in July. Let's say something very personal something that you never have thought about an hour. They allowed out into Vista Corn Team for two weeks back in. And how does that impact their personal life? How does it impact thirteen? I mean all of those things. I think that kind of that personal side is worthy. Players minds are at right now in terms of. Is there going to be an asterisk next to the Stanley Cup winner? I don't see that being the case and I look as recently as the last lockout where the season was short and health takeout. There's no asterix air. It was shortened season. The Stanley Cup playoffs were great. Actually the shortened season because condense things in the hockey was fantastic. So you're going to hear some griping from players outside most notably drew doughty of the La Kings recently said. Yeah whoever wins this year? It's it's not gonNA count the same but I think that was just drew doughty being judy. And and you know he's won a couple of cups with the Kings in one of those to be a little bit higher than the ones now but when you talk the players if they raise us down the cup they'll feel great about it and it's going to no differently than any other year well and finally crag if he were a betting man. Vegas has the Bruins the lightning and their own Golden Knights currently as co favorites to win the Stanley Cup. Who Do you like to win it? All if we do get hockey back and also has it been months since you've been asked in actual hockey question i. It's funny because I got to say it's great even just think about this rate like. Hey let's put all this testing side in in restrictions aside and say who's going to win the Stanley Cup. It's A. It's a quaint thought. Almost but now it's like we don't even know what to base it on because you can sit there and go before all this happened. I looked at team like Vegas. I loved that team and if I had to pick a team that was playing. Probably the best going in all of this. It was Vegas and they made a coaching change in Pibor and it was really clicking back as the golden tither team record. Were there and home winner. The added another goalie at the trade deadline in Robin Leonard. So that was my team probably team. I was going to pick at least to come out of the West and in the east I like the Tampa Bay lightning as much as this format may not resonate with them. I still think this is a group. That's going to be motivated. By last year's they really turned the corner this year. There seemed to be a focus there and I really like the Tampa Bay lightning this year as I did last year too. And if you're forcing me to pick one which I think was the question I would probably say it's their time. They've been through the wars. I think they're going to be focused after last year's first-round upset at the hands of the Columbus Blue Jackets. That's a team that I would expect is going to be locked in and but who knows. I haven't seen these teams in months. Well Craig thank you so much for joining us. Thanks could be you can follow Craig customers coverage of the NHL at the athletic dot com from wondering and the athletic. I'm giving Davidson Steve Tomorrow.
The two trillion dollar question
"Mark it's Wednesday march twenty fifth and the country's gearing up to make it rain two trillion dollars. I'm Sean Romney's firm and this is your corona virus update from today explained. The biggest stimulus package in the history of modern American. Politics hasn't yet passed but Congress has reached a deal on the legislation much more on that in today's episode meanwhile crisis continues to worsen in New York City were governor. Cuomo's cases are doubling every three days and as many as one hundred forty thousand people might need medical care in the next few weeks people. Leaving New York City have been told to self quarantine for fourteen days in England. Prince Charles has tested positive for Cova. Nineteen for those of you who haven't watched the crown. He's the heir to the throne to queen herself isn't self-isolation and turns ninety four. Next month in Spain the Cova One thousand nine death toll has now surpassed China's. It's around thirty. Four hundred second only to Italy. Spain has asked NATO to step in and help with the epidemic and today is day one of India's full lock down one point three billion people or one of the world's population lastly Washington. Dc's National Cathedral said one of its stonemasons recently discovered boxes containing more than five thousand respirator masks in the Cathedral's Crypt The Washington Post reports. That the masks had been purchased in two thousand six during an earlier health scare will be donated to two local hospitals. So check your craftspeople. Your health care. Workers need those masks. Get in touch with today. Explained were on twitter at today. Underscore explained at Rama's firm. Email us today explain it. Vox Dot Com and you can call and leave a message at two. Oh two six eight eight five nine four four my email. Inbox is any indication. 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At least in the modern era and it makes the two thousand eight stimulus which was something like eight hundred billion dollars. Look like small potatoes. How did we get here? So it's important to remember that the deal that Congress reached on this two trillion dollar stimulus package very early this morning. This is phase three of the corona virus bills so a couple of weeks ago we had phase one which was a relatively small eight billion dollars for research and development for Corona Virus Vaccine Research. Then last week we had a hundred and four billion dollar bill that went for free testing creative. Irs testing for every American including those run insured and expanded paid sick leave and other things even though there were some loopholes in that bill. But this as as you say this was. This was the big one This is a two trillion dollar package. That kind of has something for everyone. It has five hundred billion dollars for big businesses. It has direct payments to Americans that are struggling on an expanded unemployment insurance and it has money for hospitals okay. Well let's talk about each of the sort of one by one starting with the aid to businesses. This was the sort of contentious element that held this thing up a few extra days right. Yes so this is a five hundred billion dollar loan program for for big businesses including airline companies companies. That have have seen through no fault of their own. Their business just drop off entirely. Because people aren't flying. Economic activity is is really ground to a halt so compared to two thousand eight and two thousand nine when we were bailing out banks that had arguably caused the financial crisis that we found ourselves in the government is now quote unquote bailing out these big businesses that are seeing of huge loss of revenue due to current virus. The obviously did not cause so the reason that this was so controversial was initially in the first draft that Senate Republicans put out late last week. The trump administration and the treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin had very large discretion over this five hundred billion dollar loan program. Bill still includes something that most Americans don't WanNa see large corporate bailouts with no almost. No strings attached. Maybe the majority leader thinks it's unfair to ask protections for workers and Labor to companies that are getting hundreds of billions of dollars. We think it's very fair to ask for those. Those are not extraneous issues that is a wishlist for workers. Nobody else and so we are looking for protection. We're looking for oversight. So if you're worried that you know Steven Mnuchin was just going to hand out. Billions of dollars to companies that were favorable to the president. That ain't going to happen anymore. Yeah it's going to have oversight attached to it. There's going to be an inspector general within the Treasury Department and potentially a congressional oversight panel so there are going to be outside people other than Steven Mnuchin now looking to see how the money will be spent having input on how these loans will be doled out to businesses and it's five hundred billion dollars that are going to go to like big corporations. How much money was set aside for small businesses three hundred sixty seven billion dollars for a small business loan program It's just interesting. Like three hundred and sixty seven billion dollars concertedly shore up companies. That are losing money right now but it can't bring them back the business that they need to thrive right. Well I mean ultimately the only thing that can bring these small businesses back is is consumer spending right. We just can't do that right now. So and and this was sort of the argument that Democrats were making throughout negotiations. Was this this trickle? Down stuff and bailing out these. These big companies isn't necessarily going to get to the root of the problem because the root of the problem is just that people are trapped in their homes right now and they're not going out and spending money at their local restaurants and spending money at stores. I think that what Democrats are arguing is an in Republicans to be fair. Came around to this idea pretty quickly to of direct cash payments to people because ultimately what you're trying to do is get people spending again. Well let's talk about what individuals are getting. What kind of casher regular people going to get out of this two trillion dollar stimulus that regular people will pay for if you are an American adults? Who is making seventy five thousand dollars or less annually? You will probably be seeing a twelve hundred dollar check or a direct deposit. Show up in your mailbox or your bank account or however it's going to be delivered to the American people and it's important to note. This is a one time check. Thus far in less Congress comes back and approves additional money to to get people additional checks so if you make more than seventy five thousand dollars you are not going to receive that full amount. It kind of depends on your income and basically the idea. Is that people who are pretty comfortable right now and are making a lot of money. You don't necessarily need as much government assistance. There will also be a five hundred dollar payment if you have kids so five. Hundred dollar payment to cover every child in qualifying households. What else can individuals expect out of this two trillion dollars? Another big thing. That Democrats were talking about that. They got out of negotiations was what Chuck. Schumer likes to call quote unemployment insurance on Steroids. Nice and this is increasing unemployment insurance by six hundred dollars per week for four months so if you are laid off and you are getting unemployment insurance. Duda CORONA virus. You are eligible for an additional six hundred dollars per week to again. You know help you cover your basic expenses like rent and food medical costs etc So this money is in addition to what states pay as a base unemployment salary and it's important to note that this benefit extends to people who work in the GIG economy so uber and lift drivers post mates delivery people people who are freelancers and then also furloughed workers and these are workers who are not no longer getting a paycheck but are still getting health insurance from their employers and then the third bucket of this is is medical aid. It's it's hospital. Aid Aid to healthcare workers. Is that right this? Is You know right now especially in in hard hit places like New York. Hospitals are struggling to meet. I mean they. They don't have enough capacity for the patients that they're seeing a lot of them are complaining that they don't have enough basic medical equipment. Like ventilators and masks there are big shortages. Not So what Congress has done here for. Hospitals is add an additional one hundred fifty billion dollars to hospitals who are treating chronic virus. Patience is this going to be enough especially when we talk about aid to hospitals and healthcare professionals. It just sounds like it might be too late. I mean New York has already had to suffer as a result of lack of supplies and and lack of hospital. Beds I mean and then more broadly speaking is this enough to shore up. Americans and American businesses and the economy. I mean that is the two trillion dollar question and I. I don't think we know at this point. Birther were already seeing more headlines of of more people getting sick death rates are going up as well so we haven't yet seen the worst of this. I think that there is a good chance that if Congress sees the need that they can come back and pass more money. There's there's always a way for them to do that. But despite president trump saying yesterday that you know he wants this all wrapped up by Easter. There is no immediate late at the end of the tunnel and I don't think we know yet if two trillion dollars is enough to save us from the damage that Chris is is wreaking not only to public health also to the economy after the break I asked as reclined the two trillion dollar question. It's today explained tech has consequences and recode by. Fox's exploring them all. With the new multi-platform journalism project called open sourced through videos and articles open source to explore and demystify controversial issues surrounding technology everything from facial recognition and surveillance to how add micro targeting will affect the twenty twenty election. The project is supported by the media. 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And now we're looking at something that is not even possible so if you look at early unemployment filings. They potentially went up to three million over the past week. We've just never seen a number like that if you look at what Goldman Sachs and some other economic forecasters are forecasting for the GDP. Drop in the second quarter of the year. They're now up to twenty. Four percentage point drop. That would be the single worst quarter in the history of GDP statistics US Treasury Secretary. Steve Mnuchin said that unemployment could go up to twenty percent before he walked out back but then over the weekend. The President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Saint. Louis said he thought thirty percent was possible at least for a minute. So we're looking at something that at the very least at it's worst could be unbelievably bad and one reason could be unbelievably bad is this is really different in its dynamics and not just two thousand eight but really any recession. We can think of in memory we. It's almost not correct to think about this as a recession. This is a combination of a recession a financial crisis potentially a war and in natural disaster. Great Great and this is just the opening salvo of this recession crisis. War Natural Disaster. Yeah I spoke to mark Zandi. Who is the chief economist at Moody's analytics so he's a very well? Respected economic forecaster and as part of. Moody's they get a lot of incoming economic data survey data actual data all the time so they tend to know the economy is going just about before anyone else. I've spoken to sandy a lot over the years. And he was ending almost apocalyptic here but to be more specific. What he said. We're GONNA see four waves of economic pain. The first wave is the sudden stop of the economy. That's what we're in right now right. I can't go into work the way I normally would. The restaurants in my town are closed and non essential businesses are closed. People are sheltering in place wave to which is already here as well is unemployment. People are laying off workers because they have no sales coming in PIBOR. Cutting back hours among workers mariette furloughed. A huge amount of their staff. So mass unemployment is just beginning but already we're seeing numbers like nothing we've ever seen before. Then the third wave is what he called the wealth effect. So there are all these people who have 401k's they have money saved in the market for the retirement. This is true. Everybody was particularly true for older people who are towards the end or Paseo end of their earnings. And now they're seeing those savings wiped out and so there's a lot of spending this group is going to disappear and then the fourth wave is business investment. So you think of corporations or even small businesses that were thinking of opening up a second location upgrading to better office. Space a media organization is going to start publication. Whatever it might be. That's all going to go on. Hold so all that spending those going to upgrade machines create new capital create new products. A lot of that is gonNA disappear from the economy for a while. So of Sandy's four waves were living at least the first two already. The ECONOMY STOPS UNEMPLOYMENT. Soars the next to our imminent if not already here. People can't retire and realize their dreams and industry has to scaled-back. Is there a way out? So those four waves. Zandi said they're definitely going to happen like they are already happening. But there's a question. Now is the kind of recession we have. What's called a v-shaped recession where the economy plummets in? Let's call it quarter to maybe quarter three and then rebound super powerfully in potentially quarter three quarter four and then into twenty twenty one in that case. This will be bad but not that bad. What Sandy said and this is I think. Clearly true is two things could happen. That could disrupt that and this is particularly going to happen. If we don't get the disease under control quickly. The first thing that could happen. Is We set a financial crisis financial panic somewhere so already seeing very scary things happening in debt. Markets in bond markets in currency markets are a lot of both countries and companies that need a lot of US dollars and they're having trouble getting them. The Fed is out a huge amount of new programs. Right now to try to deal with this but it's pretty scary so if we have two thousand eight in reverse a problem in the real economy that creates contagion in the financial economy. That's GonNa be very very hard to fix. That's GONNA be years dig out of the second which is also I think very very present as danger is a mass wave of business failures. More than fifty percent of small businesses cannot survive more than a couple of months without sales. They just don't have a big nest egg. Small businesses tend to be reasonably low margin. Except you even a lot of big businesses can't survive very long in a very down economy if their receipts have gone down. Fifty percent seventy five percent and so if you have mass closures then not only when the economy does come back. Do you have to rebuild those businesses or something like them you know? And that's hard right. You need to figure out leases. P- places need to rebuild. They need to hire New People. But also it's not like they're workers can just come right back on. They have to find new jobs. There's matching costs. It's hard to search. There's a lot of uncertainty in that and so if you have a huge wave of business failures it's very hard to come back. Because you've lost a lot of the structure in which the economic growth could have happened once you got back on your feet so preventing those two things a financial crisis and a mass wave business failures. That's really really important and Congress's hoping that's why this stimulus will do but what if it doesn't that's the best case scenario. What's the worst? The worst case in our right now is primarily economic. I mean the worst case scenario is an unchecked pandemic with millions of deaths hugely overwhelmed health systems creating behind it a total economic catastrophe in some ways the worst case scenario to be is one that we are beginning to flirt with because the worst case scenario is that we lose our nerve here at the Front End. There is an enormous return to acting quickly. You prevent many more cases if you are able to stop one person from passing on the disease to after that person has passed it on to ten people. If you're trying to stop ten people from passing it on we are already seeing at the highest levels of our political leadership a blink. My message is that Let's get back to work. Let's get back to living. Let's be smart about it And those of us who are seventy plus. We'll we'll take care of ourselves but don't sacrifice the country don't do that. Our country wants to go back to work and again to cure. It's it's like this. Cure is is worse than the problem again. People many people in my opinion more people are going to die if we allow this to continue. There's this fantasy of an economy out there that you could somehow just have the economy operating at full potential. Even disease is killing and hospitalizing millions of people. All at once right nine eleven's every day in this country and I think the raw right now. The curve of new cases in America's vertical we are rising faster than Italy was at this point. That's very scary. Because this is an exponential curve as you rise faster then rise even faster and so if what happens is we let off the pressure when it is currently completely uncontrolled but I think is going to happen. Is it three months from now or even two months from now? Maybe even just three weeks from now when our health system is overwhelmed. There's going to be an enormous demand for quarantine an enormous demand to get this under control and that will happen when the economy is now gotten much worse so Jason Furman Who was Obama's former chief economist? But he's been writing about this. A lot on twitter and elsewhere made this good point that he thinks the correct way to understand the choice. Here is between social distancing right now and a bad economy six months from now or two months of nothing and then two months of even more extreme social distancing followed by a much worse economy after that and so the nightmare scenario for me is one where we've let the disease get completely out of control and that also spins the economy out of control and I don't know I can't honestly cannot believe that after five days of acting like a real precedent or trying to act like a real president that Donald Trump seems to have lost his taste for this and is now telling people were going to be back at work in two weeks. We we just need better than that right now. We just do. What is he missing? What are all the people who are looking at these unprecedented economic consequences over two million people filing for unemployment? Who Warrant two weeks ago? Who are looking at something much worse than a recession and saying is this really worth it. What are they missing? The hardest thing in politics is to force pain now to prevent more pain later and it's not that they're missing something exactly. It's they're living in the present and not in the future. What Donald Trump would any political leader any leader needs to do in an organization is live somewhat in the future is see where things are going and work backwards from there so the organization is prepared that organization a country or a company. That is what we are doing. Even Vox media right now. We are trying to think about what all this is gonNA mean for business and trying to work backwards to how we need to prepare. Donald trump is a very present focused person and he runs a very present focused administration. And what is happening? Right now is that they are feeling the pain of social distancing and it is real pain the unemployment filings the GDP projections. It is real pain. Suffering it is a horror what he is not able to feel yet and so he's not truly responding to is the kind of economic social political and human pain of this disease flying out of control of what it will mean if you can't go deliver a baby or get treated for heart condition because you're stepping over bodies in the hospital infectious bodies of what it will mean if we have a national shortage of nurses doctors respiratory therapists etc that. He is responding to the political pressure on him now and the things that he can feel now the pain we are causing now. As opposed to the pain we are trying to prevent and if every epidemiologist and public health expert and frankly even just what we're seeing in other countries is right. The pain we're trying to prevent is a lot worse now. We can't ignore the pain we would cause on the way. We need more stimulus. We need economic support. We need to have the political imagination and will ambition to make this possible. We are not going to get out of this without real economic damage. Either way that is built in but we could get out of it with a lot of humanity A lot of social support we could also if we had anywhere near the kind of imagination required for crisis like this we could get out of it with a better structure for our economy altogether right. It could be that out of this. People GET GUARANTEED PAID. Leave as every other industrialized country has guaranteed health care. I mean you could imagine using this as a moment to say. Oh we are so interdependent that we can't just have solidarity in the moments of crisis we need to have it all the time. It's not that it would stop people from losing their jobs. It's not that stimulus or basic income. Payments are going to stop them from hurting. We're not gonNA stop the hurt here but we can do a lot to build better structures to protect people from it now and in the future As we're thank you and We'll be in touch. 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March 18th 2020 - The one with Chase Dewey and OU Football
"Hey hey what's good? This is Jim Holland for the big story today. Podcast obviously if you've not heard I am on vacation this week but the podcast must go on so I got some awesome guests to sit down with me last week to talk about everything that we could look forward to in the sports world which I know is hard to find right now so first off. All of these were recorded on the thirteenth or earlier during the week. So keep that in. Mind as you're listening. We tried to make sure we did not do stuff that was not a dated but we did look forward to some things going on in the thunder. You Football State Football The NFL in everything and anything. In between so I appreciate you guys listening. This'll be a little bit different than this. Podcast normally is short. Fifteen minute interview. Twenty minute interview but Here we go the big story of the day podcast. Thank you so much for listening. We really do appreciate it. Make sure you leave us. A rating on itunes. 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They will measure your foot. You'll go through the whole process. They'll put you in the exact right shoe. I found out I have been wearing the wrong size of shoe for quite some time. So I'm really appreciative. New Balance and Edmund at fourteen ninety two South Bryant Avenue Edmond Oklahoma were also sponsored by Lucky Star Casino. Here on this specific podcast. Lucky Stars is sponsored. The big story of the day out and Contra Oklahoma so make sure you've got to consciousness a short thirty minute drive awesome blackjack tables craps roulette in everything else. You need to have a great time. Lucky stars my one. Stop shop if I'm ever looking to place a wager so make sure you support people who support us here at the big story. Today is March Eighteenth on the big story today. Podcast I'm on vacation. You gotta call it on by now. on occasion this week so we have some prerecorded episodes that we were dropping in. Today's episode is being dropped. My good friend franchise podcasts partner chase. I'm back you're back with a vengeance. The return the return right in time for this whole like they're shutting down sports but they can't shut me down so I figured would just start at the top of symptoms lists protocol. How big is your bubble so I would say I woke up again. If you're listening to this I guess this is prerecorded so thirteen by this time. I'M GONNA BE I'M GONNA be well very well. That's true. No I woke up the other day with a scratchy throat because of allergies and had about I don't know fifteen minutes of panic. Yeah fifteen minutes a panic where he just like. It's when you have like an abnormal symptom and you look it up and it's like ooh that's that's Colon Colon Cancer Colon Cancer Web MD. Yeah no that's how I felt so I'm good. I'm good no fever. Good the drainage is clearing the head I three s everybody does. It's showing up on the show. This week I three items that you absolutely have to to go into quarantine my dog K Desmond. Don't I hope you're not listening to the podcast selected one over the other okay? It's yours just very needy and she'd be in my face all the time it would drive me nuts so desmond. I would take half twitter to see what's going on with the rest of the outside world content that keeps generating on that so yeah smartphone. My iphone I'm not even a huge. I see no. I don't want the iphone because I don't necessarily need to communicate with the outside world. I want to know what's going on out there. I WANNA follow twitter. Am FM radio. Right would be technically and then I would say this. Podcast is number three. Okay W. Anything on the franchise network. I is in Oklahoma boomer. So we'RE GONNA be Talking Oklahoma football today. Women's looking forward to this week. I hope so so. Jalen hurts now. Benny Benny the jet. Who Know where he is. He might be a corn corn team. He might be Corinthian anyone's patiently road Oklahoma City. It's probably been benny the jet. Yeah okay so let's move on. I think we were pretty forthcoming. I'm pretty excited about it. Okay so the number one question for Oklahoma. Next year I assume is how much better if at all has been surrounded the jail infinitely have to play snap infinitely better so jalen hurts in the grand scheme of things didn't really turn the ball over a lot like. I don't think I I can't remember. I just feel like he turned it over. He was Landry Jones Esq so at the worst time possible was the worst time it was back breaking. It's a crippling turnover. And that's that's what your habit of it really. That's what I expect so if you remember Baker his first year at Ou so like his first year playing he had when he had turnovers. It was him like forcing an issue. I think you're GONNA see a lot of that with Spencer at work. I think he has got a gun. I think he's going to try to fit it into tight windows. Just give did. So here's the thing he's going. I don't know personality wise. If we would be compatible you visit rally rattler. Maybe we could do not hang out. I don't know if we would do not as a fan. His game. Incredible. I cannot wait and I love. L. Pibor freaking out otherwise you practicing all these behind the back passes and all this stuff. I'm like because he's he's already so good he's not gonna be thrown behind the back passes and games. I'm just saying the fact that he could do that. Just shows what a free. He is sure. He's an athlete. So I've said this before. I think Spencer might be the most talented high school quarterback that. I've gotten the joy of watching this. I would agree in the media right covering high school. Sports is nothing. I didn't watch high school sports nationally. Now saying I probably would be when I was going into because I started like. Oh I'm going to be on school at some of these guys. Ceramics senior year like I paid attention to rattlers. Get super talented. It would not shock me this year. If there's an embarrassing amount turnovers I so I don't know what that number is. I could see I so what I wish around touchdowns but that's where I'm so. That's what I think I could see it being like Who Was it does Shawn Watson a senior year? Where everybody was freaking out. I remember he had one year where he was like. Oh immaculate he had like two turnovers all year four turnovers here and then the next year he had like sixteen and people were like ooh is he actually going to be that good of an NFL quarterback decision-making might not be that good. I just think that he was more confident in his game. Inserted taking more chances. I don't think that Spencer's going to come out of the gate hesitant to try to make a incredible throw or for something. I think he's going to force a lot of things and you're either going to be like Russell Westbrook of football. That is what he's GonNa Beater you. Why are you throw wow documentary? The lashed not lashing into you. Qb One I've seen. I've seen bits and pieces of it. The guy's not gonNA confidence. He's no he's coming out swinging game. There's he's GonNa come out since nine touchdowns I wish he could. I wish he could have played a CD lamb. I mean we see how crazy good. Cd We and we've known this. Oh you fans have known this since his freshman year. He's the best receiver to ever. Come Out oh you. Wow if I he is he's GonNa have he's GonNa is GonNa have to have the best. Nfl career he might be. He is already the best. I've never seen anything like him before. Okay at Ou anyways. I just think Kenny stills was good he was CD lambreau so any. Wh what were you just talking about Spencer? Rattler turnovers a lot of touchdowns. He's GonNa he's GonNa throw the ball and I think that's going to be great and I for the running backs. I think it's GonNa be Great. 'cause Lincoln Riley is like fifty five percent. I think he's like his offense of scheme is like he's like a more run dominant croce forty five pass to run with Baker and cuyler and then switch with Jalen. That's that's your back fifty five forty five. I think that the the running backs are going to benefit the most. I think the wide receivers because they're actually gonNA get handed the ball and reactions to jail ever hand the ball to running back on read option ever one time. I don't think so if he did. It was for a loss of yards. It was like a terrible decision. He's like what are you know what means they were watching game together as a road game and we made a bet with guy bar and it was okay. The first seven reductions will jail. Hand the ball running back. Oh Yeah No. They probably didn't know he went twelve. Twelve twelve road tonight with all I want to say. I want this on the record right now. Actually two thirds that hurts me a lot. What a bad anyways. I want this on the record. I you know. We're recording a podcast. Everything you're saying all I know but I I physically. You're not a player. Jalen hurts jalen hurts. I don't want to say good riddance and I don't want to. I don't want to say that and I don't want to agree with the locker room. Cancer talk that's going around. I heard that I heard that before the season started you. Go back and listen early on to the PODCAST. We did with Benny. I was saying that he's like hated. Sure buys teammates. I don't know if that's necessarily true anymore. But I I'm happy to have a quarterback back and Oh us been such. We've been very spoiled. I think jalen hurts bad quarterback but comparatively speaking. I mean just he will he. I don't even know if you call him a playmaker. A good leader. Jalen hurts good leader. He's built captain. What's what's the replacement. Yes let's try to think of some like cliche words like field. General what do you what do you say? What do you say about a quarterback who's not a good quarterback but he gets the job you win with them? It's not necessarily the reason you in. I like feel general coach on the field. He's got moxy moxy great one. He's got he's just he's got an x factor. He's just like he's a winner. Tim Tebow guy the room but let me tell you he wants. He wants it more than anybody else. That's exactly that's what hurts. Good luck to them. I mean I'd be. He probably will get drafted. I mean let's be honest. I don't know how high higher than you and I are anybody else's washing this you were taken no way. Are you talking like top three? I found out. I don't know what the Vegas over under is that I mean based on everything I'm reading. There's a couple of teams right okay. Who who we. This is a great quarterback trapped. I feel like drafting in during the year. I don't think he might have to take me as their. Qb One no way. I think some people think that they can get creative. Like New Orleans has would taste hill and have him. I could see that now. Where he where he's playing. That would be interesting fifteen snaps a game. But he's not the quarterback. That would be interesting if the saints ever resigned taste of health. They're going to match any contract. Okay I didn't know double answer. I can't speak right now man but I mean Jalen hurts going into the NFL combine. What what what was he gonNa do well at well? The athletic stuff right like the bench press. Lets for all that stuff kill. Yeah okay. We also knew he's probably won't interviews guy says every cliche you. He didn't say anything of note he just says every Cliche we needed Eddie in there to rattle absolutely rattled in this. You said so just to be clear. Jalen you want to go want to know this because I tell you if yes you WanNa win this week you went to win the games like come on. Yeah I love it. I mean that's the content I live for. That's why I'd have twitter. Follow Eddie so there are teams. Who Said Oh man. He's the best thing I've ever seen. I don't doubt that he's a Sabin product. Yes have you seen him? Did you see any turned the ball over so as far as Oklahoma next year? You mentioned CD Lamb Charleston. Rambo's now the number one receiver. I think as of now. He's kind of assuming that rule. I think that rule role. I think it's going to be one of those those freshman guys this past year and I I would go with Hazelwood because he may be had the most and the cool stare the did he have the most. I don't know I saw okay. I was about to say he had the most snaps. Just watching it but I have not done any research on this. I don't fact check me so most NAPS I. I really like the I don't know what bridge is going to do. I like I think the peace has a chance just being tall I N. He's just a sprinter. I guess so. The ninety nine ups with Spitzer rattler I feel like is going to be. Just whoever's the fastest which that might be with Rambo? Bro NOW MIGHT BE RANDOM RAN. It might be ringing bells. Because he's fast fast but who knows I so? Is there any skepticism though about this? I mean they're talented and I don't think I wanNA see why I can hat whose like skeptical. They're talented but none of them have played outside of Rainbow. That should matter talented okay. I got that but they haven't played college football games. They have not played so I think I can understand scepticism I can. I don't want to come out and say we're GonNa win a national championship next year. I don't think we will. I do think as far as big twelve play goes. I think we I don't know it's ours to lose about losing the big twelve history. She told you know it should tell me now. I don't so I do think the Texas is going to be better on defense. They've been back. I don't know if you've heard they've been back for the last seven years And Same Etlinger is the best returning senior in the Big Twelve. So watch out because everybody knows he's literally. He loves his team so much that he has. He's GonNa stay one more year compete because he did not want to get undrafted or drafted in the sixth round. Or you playing in xfl. I think he'd be like a Dak Prescott. Pick someone chasing the fifth round one a lot of games. I guess it'd be good at Prescott. That's that was the cowboys. Thought at the time of your question. I don't have skepticism. I don't think that we're going to feed it like I'm not saying that. Oh Oh you I do think we're the team to be as we usually are. I Love Love Love. Love love the narrative around the Osu cowboys right. Now that they're going to win a national championship. I love it. It's beautiful. It is narrative it is a real narrative actually leaves that. I don't think people believe it. But in his real narrative it is a real narrative they believe in Taiwan Wallace fans players coaches. I think players more than anybody else which is great. That's who you need to believe. I this is an Osu podcast trash them. I just say I do think that's awesome. You did working in your favor. I do sneaky teams in the big twelve your word about Kansas state. Wow Thomson I think that. Their coaches pretty legit. And I don't know if that's I don't know if it's just because they beat us last year I don't think we lose can't say it again at home I don't know anything about Iowa state. I think it's going to be interesting to see. Bela rebound without Matt Rural. Yeah we're totally Fox. Yeah so I have no clue about Baylor I don't think I think tech will be better but not great. I don't think that tees TCU could be a sneaky team basically quarterback yeah. Their defense is legit and they return a lot of people. I'm pretty sure So West Virginia is GonNa be awful again often kindles there just to get like nine years of eligibility? I HAVE NO IDEA. I Bat Dude Man Talk About Burning Bridges with the school of Byron's. Oh Gosh he led the place on fire when he said Oh. I had a basic defenses. Qb Two maybe three. It was an impressive mark. I I don't know it might Miss Anybody in the big twelve. Who Am I missing Kansas? Thi- soon we talk about Kansas. I Dunno I owe you wins. Ten Games I bet. Well I think we're GONNA double digit mark. I don't know I don't know who we lose to. Yeah Okay so how would this? My British going into years was was gonNA lose two games but I like that Canada border. Okay yes postseason. In first round in the playoff hunt first round of the playoffs maybe one of them will be because morale has four tournament. I wouldn't be shocked if that came true Texas state or that could be against Kansas. Like there's GonNa be a game where it's like okay. He's a redshirt freshman throwing the ball forty five times game. Yeah have one of those holy crap. What's happening Davos? What's so here's here's something interesting. I think the narrative to watch with Spencer Rattler is how he plays in big games because part of me wants to believe that like the atmosphere in energy of a rivalry game or something like that is just GonNa do some like. That's something that I don't feel jalen hurts hat. I think he was calm. Murray to the Red River rivalry I play offered. I think that I think that Spencer at were will have multiple foot in his mouth moments at the University of Oklahoma Hall. He say some. Where like we're going to go on a Texas and he's like we might win by ten touchdowns heard a rumor. I've not heard this from the university itself. Just people who are close to it who cover the team that Oklahoma. Install a only juniors and seniors talk rule? And if that happens. I'm going to call them at the spins around. Maybe I know talk to the media. Juniors Seniors Oh. That's just don't want our quarterback talking. I haven't heard that but that's pretty funny. I I think he's GonNa be legit. I think he has a chance to be one of the best. Quarterbacks come through you strictly talent wise I just say he has all the makings for it. If you can stay yes and I think with the baker mentality so that's one thing it's GonNa be fun to watch with him. I don't want to say like everybody's like Oh Baker Mayfield mentality. I genuinely think that Spitzer rattler thinks he's better than everybody else and NCAA totally my one thing is if he can contain it because watching that show. Qb One where? He's telling his player that he's trash. I don't know if that's GONNA fly. I thought he was talking to his white out. That trump Paul probably talk huby to that to the very famous like ten minutes. Where he's just berating his back and he's like we're getting better because I asked how we get better. I'm telling you you're bad I'm like we. We can't be doing that. I don't think Lincoln will let that fly either. There are times if he can what Baker was was. I don't think he really. He encouraged his team like he fired his team out but he told the other guys like. I'm going to walk all over you. That is what I think since rattler will be like when I say Baker Mentality. Short podcast is the big story here. Yeah in and out change. This goes nuclear corona virus. Oh Spencer aller- I think with his personality with his gunslinger mentality of. I'm the best in the field I don't care about fifteen perceptions or fifteen stance might be true freshman. Who's five foot six ways? A buck forty. But I'M GONNA kick your s that can go sideways and I like I been on the record for two years that I thought Smith should have been the starter last year. So I'm all aboard the height trip down but there is a chance this nuclear. There's definitely a chance I would. I would put it okay so do anywhere skill one to ten or do we want to do one hundred percent to like zero one hundred percent. Okay I will say on a scale of one to ten ten being. I'm extremely like he is going to. It's going to be a nuclear bomb or zero zero beans. We're going down I think that I'd be about a three. I wouldn't be shocked if it went nuclear but I do think he likes Lincoln Riley enough to listen to them. I think if if anybody is going to control spitzer or I think it's Lincoln Riley. I genuinely think they have a good relationship so I don't know what that means now off the field. That's another thing I'm worried about. I'm worried about a little off field antics but if he can stay. I'm worried about that in the first two years his last year when he's button enough to go to the draft. I think he's going to be a whole different player. I think he's going to be a lot more professional. I'm just this year. And then probably some of next season. If he's healthy all the way through we could be dealing with in ego maniac on the loose absolute. Who is going to bring National Championship? Thirty percent thirty percent so three hundred ten three hundred ten. Wow okay that's low. That's that's what I would not be surprised at higher than most people though would be but also say that most people probably haven't seen any of the documentary on Jimmy that I think if you watched it I just don't know how you can't to it's two years ago you'd have to think that he grew up a little bit like. I think he's going to be a lot more professional college football. He's playing I you know. I think there's it's different seventy if I was seventeen. Sixteen seventeen years old. And they're like hey have a docu series. And you're the best quarterback in the nation. I probably would have looked like a jerk to bet. He watched that and was like that. It's not the best luck. I don't WanNa look like that in the public. I would assume but I gave up assuming for my new year's resolution so I will not assume anymore so I'm not gonNA assume anything. I don't even know where to go. This is the next day podcast. Thanks thank you so much for listening. 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Three Chords And The Truth
"Are you recording. Are we good testing one two three testing testing grinning okay. We have something special for you all today. It's it's not a typical July episode. It's a conversation with one of our favorite storytellers Ken Burns. You might have heard of him mm-hmm. He's made dozens of historical documentaries over the years about everything from the civil war to jazz to cancer to the Vietnam War and now he's back with a new documentary about about country music and I have to be honest. I don't really care about country music in fact. I don't like it. GROWING UP I associated country music with artists like Toby Keith. Who songs were you know Gresley patriotic and were hurt for someone like me but when I heard Ken Burns was making a documentary about country music I was like okay. Let's see what this is about and that my friends is what makes Ken Burns so good at what he does. He take something that you think you have zero interesting and makes it interesting which is what we try to do every week on this show so we were super excited to sit down with him and talk about his approach to storytelling storytelling why history matters and country music that conversation when we come back Hi This is NATO Mon- from East Brunswick New Jersey and you're listening through mine from NPR AW support for this podcast and the following message come from Tito's handmade vodka born and bred in Austin Texas the live music capital capital of the world music is just kind of part of our DNA says tito beverage founder and master distiller of Tito's handmade vodka for recipes videos and more visit them Ed Tito's vodka dot com eighty proof. Tito's handmade vodka fifth generation inc.. Distilled and bottled in Austin Texas crafted to be savored responsibly Oy. I can't believe that summer is basically over. I know and you know what that means. The twenty twenty presidential races only going to heat up. It's a good thing we spent all summer sitting down with the Democratic candidates for President Colo.. It is great to be with you. Thanks for having him delighted to be here for. Bush appreciate check out the NPR politics podcast feed for exclusive interviews with all the candidates on the debate stage. Subscribe Okay so naturally literally the first question we had for Ken Burns was why country music and why now people were asking me after we did our series on jazz came out in two thousand run you know would I do rock and roll and and and I I'm a child of rock and roll and are and be that was my music and yet when the country music idea came friend of mine said hey that about country music and had been mentally on some lists but it just sort of entered in my heart. It was like this whole hearted yes S. whatever it was. We're thinking about doing next together. That's disappeared and for the next eight years. We really plowed towards this. I knew some most of my granddaddy and my daddy sang me songs but I knew that it was connected to all American music that what we tend to do in everything particularly now our there seems to be as soon. Nami of inflammation breaking over us is that just out of desperation we in silo everything into its own category but when you listen to country music and you learn a little bit about it you find out from the very beginning. It was never one thing our window on land. did a big bang took place in the summer of Nineteen Twenty seven that in Bristol Tennessee when Ralph peer an entrepreneur recorded in almost succeeding sessions the Carter family and Jimmie Rodgers. We saw so you have this music growing up. That's then adding all sorts of stuff western. Swing Cowboy Music I aw rock and Bluegrass Bakersfield it sound kind of more smooth. Nashville Sound later even smooth were country Palton sign. I mean it defies category like like all the other jars documentary you explore at least in the beginning of sharing of culture even the Carter Family Family Used Basically Old Gospel Song will be unbroken the biggest country song. Maybe the most influential ever given that I know what people are going to say when he sees documentary given what happened recently with the old town road. I'm sure you're aware of it was a little not as I think what that brought up is for a lot of African Americans well. We have a history in this music too yeah that that country music is music too so it's in every episode of ours and that dynamic is there and if you made a Mount Rushmore of the top five people the Carter her family Jimmie Rodgers Hank Williams bill monroe who invented bluegrass johnny cash all of those five had an African American mentor who took their chops from here and put it way up here so that they deserved a place in the Mount Rushmore so all of a sudden you realize this is not some back forty acres of some hick thing but in fact one man of station of American music that's going to also manifest itself in the blues in Jazz in folk in rock a billy and later rock and Orrin B and soul and let's remember it's a complicated story. The two main instruments of country music the fiddle which comes from Europe and the British isles and the Banjo which comes from Africa tells you about a dynamic and so our first episode is called the Rub and normally when we think about races coming together in the American south the rubbed the friction produced is a negative one in this case while the negativity is still there all of the horrors of slavery and Jim Crow and segregation and of Minstrel there there but one of the byproducts is extraordinarily positive in which is creating a set of music jazz and Blues and country that is America's music but you know something you mentioned that I love to dig into a little more is as the tension at the beginning of country music that produce something great yes but also complicated as you you mentioned these mount rushmore sort of figures of country music all were inspired borrowed from African American music and culture. Can you talk a little bit about that sort of tension how informed the rise of country music. I think that tension is sort of present almost everywhere in American life in every subject we've done on and I think no more so than here and that's where creativity takes place not in these sort of perfect moments but in in just the complication of life if I don't see this in terms of appropriation because of course African Americans are listening and borrowing from what you see are people who are huge you for rioting of mixtures. Eh Mama I'm going on. There is a a sadness to me that we don't know Gus Cannon Johnny Cash's mentor as well as we know johnny cash as johnny cash's fault Johnny cash would to the end of his dying day would tell you the significance of gus cannon to who he was and the kind of person he began same with Elvis. There's lots of argument about Elvis but elms knew where worried came from US listening to country music. He was listening to Gospel Black and white his listening to the blues he was listening to everything and he reflected and that's who we are will you can't celebrate a melting pot on the other side and then say it's not good to melt. You know there's presumptions in commerce commerce that people are only listening to this music that are white or that. They're only listening to R&B that are black and this just isn't the case you must means that would know when Ray Charles had a chance to have creative control over an album for the first time and released modern sounds in country and western music and the great hit it was. I can't stop loving you. I mean just a phenomenal crossover in the other way that you would imagine you know. The culture is going to resist that to culture often will default to the lowest common denominator us against them and what I think art reminds us is that you can neutralize the conflict was something that sees a little bit bigger than that and good art always does you're. GonNa meet Deep Ford Bailey L. E. WHO's a harmonica player and early. African American member of the Grand Ole opry of WHO's unceremoniously kicked out at a momentous or resurgent Jim Crow and and for excuses brought back you have Charley Pride. You have ray Charles doing this spectacular thing and throughout our films rhiannon Giddens who's an African an American woman who is one of the great most driving country sound you'll ever hear and tearing the cover off almost every song song. She attempts to say you. You watched her a few weeks ago at the Reimann Auditorium home for decades of the Randall opera sing antique coins crazy and bring three thousand people to their feet in thunderous applause so it's there right in front of us. The recipe is there. I mean is that what drew you to it at the beginning I mean it seems like this is a learning process as responding eight eight years on it. Is this something you at the outset that there was this deep intricate American story at the heart of country music. You know it's so easy to back and fill in light. He who you know I'm looking in all these things for subjects that reflect us back to us and I don't WanNa do stuff that I know about out and what's so great about country is that it's elemental three chords and the truth the Songwriter Harlan Howard said and that means it it doesn't have the elegance and sophistication of say classical music or even jazz what it has a really clear lyrics and very simple music that that is telling you elemental things about human life the joy of birth the sadness at death falling in love trying to stay in love falling out of love being lonely seeking redemption. There's nobody within the sound of my voice that hasn't experienced at least one if not two if not all of those things and what we found as we are working on the film is are developing sense that we were sitting on kind of a volcano of emotional power and people would come in and they would be you know. I love country music but I had no idea that it was this or I'm not really sure. I don't like country music once you get rid of the deadwood and get the brush out. This is an extraordinary set of tunes that the series is introducing to and for those that I don't like country music. They suddenly realize how can the superficial and blind that might be that good. Music is good music. Wherever it is is their badge as yes. Is there bad blues yes. Is there bad rock. Oh my God you know so so is there bad country of course but if you can tell the kind of story multigenerational huge Russia novel of a story worry that we told across eight episodes and sixteen and a half hours you have a chance to see this. American family story that added heart is as American Dan. You don't one of the things that struck me in film was the number of women who plead read such a big role in the development of country music. This is a surprisingly feminist film from the very beginning Sarah Carter and and mother May Bell Carter are two super strong women and there followed by rose maddox too bad bad it wasn't God made honky dog gain in the words to songs and Kitty Wells Patsy cline of course all do lo around lynn so in the Mid Sixties Loretta Lynn is dealing with themes that nobody in folk has touched. Nobody in Iraq Dodge you then then making your brags around town. I love with love on your mind or any of the you're not woman in enough to take my man so what you have is this kind of surprisingly pro feminist film when that tune comes out don't come home. Drinking is the year that women's liberation and is used and and the red is not going to use that term. She's not joining any movement and neither are fans but they are imbibing of these fundamental dole human aspirations where you thought I'd be when you came home. You've been out with all album at stop and talk about unspoken thing which is rock and roll every single one of the Beatles. Their initial impulse was country. You know a quarter of of the songs that the Beatles gave Ringo to sing were or country country songs in the big star out of the and a in in fact his first big one naturally is a Bucko and tune which suddenly revitalize made Buck Owens cool when Bob Dylan Ellen fell after these just ECOMOG albums like free real and Bob Dylan highway sixty one Ribas. Where does he do rolling and he goes to Nashville and he does blonde on Blonde John Wesley Harding and Nashville Skyline? He's using the Nashville session musician the A team. They were called to get the best sound out the country music station `this but there's nothing nothing nothing to turn you. Just tell me what's not country about the band in or about the birds after having explored psychedelic they are going in to Nashville to record an album sweetheart of the Rodeo. I mean you have a Honky tonk woman by the rolling stones. You know if you'RE GONNA put up barriers then you forgotten that everything's on a kind of continuum and I would suggest because of the Carter family's will the circle be unbroken that is not a linear one. It's it comes around. It's it's full circle how exactly view boil down the twentieth century into a Sixteen Hour Documentary Ken Burns tells us when we come back from Washington and you're listening to NPR her support for through line and the following message come from American Express. You've got big ideas for your business but figuring out how to make them happened can be a real challenge well. The answer may be as simple as American Express financing solutions. They have over four thousand specialists who can help find the right solution for your business. Chat with them today to see if you're eligible so you can get your plants up and running the powerful backing of American. 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Atticus Russ's score was incredible unbelievable so the what was the decision to get them involved in that and so much different so actually league the music is always the same for us even when in the two films that it's been about music jazz and country music it's not just background but it sort of middle ground and foreground and sometimes kind of hyperspace as your guest writing a piece of music. We recorder music before we begin editing. We have most of our music in place most those people at the exact opposite it scored which is a mathematical term and they're sitting there to the picture and they wanna hit this at this. We never do that will cut the picture to the music music because such a powerful forum and we might shorten a sentence in order to fit of raise a music or lengthen it just to fit a phrase music or just shut up for a second. It's hard for us to do 'cause we have written films to and we celebrate that they're very we don't think image in the word are at odds and music is the great reconciler of that so we're recording our music we in in the civil war. I just sat with a person who played a piano. All of these hymns always popular music of the day all this military stuff and I picked maybe forty tunes and we went into the studio and recorded each of those tunes forty different ways and so we'd have all of these choices going in so each subject requires that you want to have the contemporary music. That's no different than Vietnam so Lynn Novick my co-director on Vietnam was watching the social network and she went credit music is unbelievable and came back and said we should get them and it was like yes what a great idea so we went to Trenton Atticus and they said yes we'd. I love to do that and they said to us. They never let us in on the process that this was one of the most satisfying creative things they'd had working on the stuff and delivered us three hours hours of material that is mind-boggling we went to Yo Yo Ma and the Silk Road Ensemble and they took Vietnamese tunes and lullabies and folks at any one north north-and-south would know and bent them in their unique and completely original fashion and then we go out and we collect one hundred twenty pieces of music and the first thing we it is we went to the Beatles and said we can't afford this. We need you to help us and they said fine and then we went to Bob Dylan. He's fine and then we just walked our way. Through the rest of the hundred twenty visas we would have been able to afford twelve had they not said look. We understand what you're going to do and we we promise never to play a piece of music. That wasn't out that is the say you couldn't hear here at on Armed Forces radio or you couldn't hear it in your transistor radio on your car radio on the way to a demonstration against the war and that we'd use it honorably and that has to do with the fact that for US music is central. It's not like the afterthought. It's not the icing that you hope is going to amplify emotions and you hope you hope are there but in fact baked into the process from the beginning music is so powerful immune all we're talking about. Today is music and that's power. That's the power power of history right. I think one of the things that on our show we try to do is use history a better understand the world. We live in today. This is exactly the power of history and this is why ah I'm there because we like to say that were condemned to repeat what we don't remember. It just doesn't happen. Human Nature never changes. The ECCLESIASTES says what has been will be again. What has been done will be done again. There's nothing new under the Sun. That suggests that human nature doesn't change in so when we think history repeats itself itself. We're only looking at these habits. You know these cycles these motifs these themes constantly recur and that gives who's the possibility in history to be our best teacher. Mark Twain said history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes and I can't tell you there hasn't been a single film. It's almost forty uh-huh. I think some an hour in length from eighteen hours were haven't finished the film and looked up and good my God. It's about the present moment and I can't convince anybody that this film was essentially editorially locked before the metoo movement because you would swear to God in every episode road. We're like Oh. There's a nice little reference to me and I never put in any reference to the president and any of the films it's just that everything rhymes but the great tyranny the great arrogance of the present is that we somehow think that because we're alive and they're not that that we know more than them and we do not we experience everything the way they did and there were conversations ten thousand years ago that that were as complex as I hope this is when we come back more on the art of storytelling from Ken Burns Hi this is enough and Frederick and you're listening caroline from NPR support for this podcast and the following message come from Delta Delta Flyers two three hundred cities ladies around the world. That's three hundred cities where people in those three hundred cities think they're the only ones who know about that one place and three hundred cities where people bill miss someone in one of Delta's other two hundred ninety nine cities. Delta is in flying at three hundred cities merely to bring people together but to show that we're not that far far apart in the first place. Delta keep climbing. I mean I'm starting to get a sense of sort of your approach to telling History Rian all these stories because it seems like with all of your documentaries. You're bringing together things. It's just it's way more complicated than you go in. Maybe thinking it says you know it's funny. I think I've grown as a filmmaker but my very first film for Public Broadcasting is one call Brooklyn Bridge and I I was raising money. Elect about twelve years old and everybody was turning me down. Ha Ha this kid strengths only the Brooklyn Bridge nope and I used to have binders filled with the rejection letters just to remind remind me of how complicated is particularly in public broadcasting to get anything done but I was writing a letter and I added added that I that I was uninterested in excavating dry dates and facts and events of history that I was interested in an emotional archaeology agey. I wrote that in like seventy seven when I was trying to raise money or seventy eight and I don't know of any better way to put it than that that if we want to use news history as a weapon then you're only speaking to the choir young speaking to the converted. You can't possibly change minds. The novelist Richard Powers said that the best arguments in the world won't change a single person's mind. The only thing that can do that that is a good story and a good story. I think we'd all agree is the one that has that complication. One that has that undertow when that has a thing in the opposite visit of thing being true at the same time and our ability to tell each other stories and to remind us that we are obligated as human beings not not as Democrats or Republicans are white people or black people or gay or straight people are male or female people or West Coast people are east coast pibor north be poor south depot but as people is that we're going to have to negotiate these things for ourselves first and to reconcile the seemingly irreconcilable opposites and when you have the possibility to do that and art and storytelling are all part of the infrastructure of helping us get through that stuff then you have the possibility of of what everybody wants to what everyone wants to be which ages a better person a better everyone yeah emotional archaeology which is really interesting because one of the things we struggle with I think is the balance balance between story and timeline right late on the one hand and you're telling history you want people to get a sense of what happened of course yesterday but but the I we I completely agree with you. That narrative and story is what makes someone. It's the only thing you know who knows first of all. There's lots of things as I of alumnae explain emotional archaeology it. This is not sentimentality. This runs dowager. those are the enemies of good anything the other thing. Is that quite often. We go through our own fashions in historiographer. Riyadh graffiti. You know you drop an atomic bomb. After you've murdered sixty million people and mean us I mean the human race does this in the Second World War and everything has this question and narrative is the first thing to go so to and then and then and then seems hopelessly bankrupt and inadequate to the situation and so we we begin to have Freudian approaches we begin to have Marxist or economic determinist approaches things we have later on symbolism Eliza him and semiotics and deconstruction and Afro Centrism and all sorts of ways of saying that this is the way in and what we have have come back to understand. Is that a much more informed we would say today woke narrative allows for all of those possible things. I've just watched with great satisfaction that often might there was a knee-jerk criticism to the work that I had done in the nineties because it didn't fit into an academic definition because it's subscribed to this old bankrupt thing called narrative now. There are some narratives that are Bancorp.. If you think a top down story of great men is only the story of American history then yeah it does work but if you're engaging a bottom up as well as the top down when you begin to realize that to tell that complicated store you have to bring in all of these other things these are the tools of narrative not the sole new way to-do history and so I think we come back and I've found the academy back to this idea that Yup it's narrative and then and then and then we just to be a little bit more conscious to be a little bit more expansive and generous. We have to be a little bit more inclusive. If we're going to call it our if we're going to do our jobs and I think the thing that we struggle with and that I think you do well is when you're telling a story you mentioned that you've told the Twentieth Century America however many times and each each time sort of a slightly different story. How do you know what to leave in what to leave. Ou- like what do you make this traces so that is actually my our job. We're amassing a vast body of information stuff. That's in the script stuff. That's in the interviews stuff. That's in the photographs stuff. That's in the footage. The Live cinematography whatever it is it's at least forty sometimes fifty sixty seventy times what we're GONNA end up using and then it's cutting it away the key for us. We've found his time you know. We're not doing these things in a couple of years. We're doing them over a decade in the case of Vietnam ten and and a half years or we're doing him in eight years and that's because we wanna wrestle with this material. We won't don't want to disqualify something. We WanNA learn. We WanNA throw throw stuff out are cutting floor is not filled with bad stuff. It's filled with really really good stuff that if we picked it up and showed you to go my God. Why isn't that in that go yeah we're. We're still hurting about that but it didn't fit. We edit human experienced down. Do you ever worry that you leave something out that all the time I of we you just we do know nothing is definitive. You do what you can do and I imagine that if I worked on civil war now now it would be thirty five hours right but it may not be as good a film it was who I was at that time and just struggling and waking up at four in the morning which I still do going and sometimes it hurts so bad that I'll say okay. Let's put it back and then and then you'll see and then maybe two months later three eight months eight or you go okay. Can we take it out. You see that destabilize Meritas that scene is it's now made something an hour later seemed kind of boring and you can watch people look look at their wives or shift their endeavor chair as because you've just in that moment lost them and I have. I make really long films that Zeke huge demand demand on our audience in a time when people are supposed to be butterflies flitting and we go now. We need you to stay for ten episodes eighteen hours of Vietnam or eight episodes in sixteen hours of this but then I'm obligated to make sure that if you've sat down there are GonNa be no interruptions for two hours and that it's my the obligation that if you bring your attention I will not squander that great gift that you've given me and if they're curious we want to reward that attention agean and that that's the compact of storytelling so much for this and we really appreciate. It's my my bits been my pleasure. That's Ken Burns his new eight part. Documentary Country Music Begins Airing on your local. PBS Station Station on September fifteenth and that's it for this week's show. I'm roundup but that I'm Rob Tina Louis and you've been listening to live from. NPR This show is produced by me and me and Jamie York Jerry ANAHUAC man Lawrence Lane Kaplan levinson smiling summer Heidari Greta pitting a fact check. 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Oh captain, my Golden Knights captain?
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We're GONNA talk about some interesting comments. coach Pete to bore made recently about captains and how that might affect the future of the Golden Knights and whether we will potentially see a sea in the near future but before we get to all that let me check in with the other members of the podcast Adam Hill and Dave. Shane Adema assert with you. How's it going wonderful then? I'm back to join a live sports. We are discussing just before we started the podcast here. I am a Korean baseball obsessive fan. Now Amal in some very excited to have sports back but I think maybe once sports is back in America. I might be done because I like was. I learned that my giants. That's my Korean team that I chose of not wanting a long time and I don't know if I could take any more heartbreak as a sports fan of just watching a team never win. I don't know if I can handle this very long. Dave Adam is a giants guy. What's your team? The was that that mascot they got I forget it. It's it's Funky name or whatever it's awesome. Yeah I'm all over it right you know I. It was funny because I was watching. I was watching some of the gangs and stuff last night. And I'm like dude. My hair wouldn't even fit right now under a batting. It's out of control. I have like the total art Garfunkel Fro. Going right. Now it's crazy. You might be honest. The Dave Swirl Daddy is their Nascar we go yes moral daddy. This is amazing. I of course with the key will heroes because they have X. twin slugger beyond park who was a bust in North America crushing it over there in South Korea. So I'm glad we all got something like that. Our lives to keep entertaining us right now. We hope that we're going to entertain you guys with some hockey talk but before we get to that let me quick reminds you that the Golden Age podcast is sponsored by. Sdn Sports Mobile from station. Casinos we are presented by Faber. Drink a favor dot com also like to remind you that you can check out all our written stuff. At Review Journal Dot Com days keeping US updated on kind of the latest goings on with the NHL spurious restart plans was happening with the NHL draft in that potentially getting moved up whereas I'm going player by player through nights roster kind of letting you know how they did this year how they project in the future and all that fun stuff but as I mentioned earlier for most of this episode were going to be projecting into the future and whether we're GONNA see a sea change for the Knights Pun fully intended. I will not apologize for this. Night's coach Pizza bore recently appeared on the team. Podcast sheriff lawless and some guy named Dave and throughout eight really interesting comment his quote. Was I'm a believer in a captain? I think we have a lot of candidates in the dressing room. I'm still getting to know the group. That's something I'll have to discuss with Bill Foley and George mcphee obviously in Kelly mccrum and and see what their feeling is on it. So just on. Its surface amick sense. The pizza bore likes captains because he had a good one in New Jersey Zach. Parisi another good one in San Jose. Joe Belsky went to the Stanley Cup. Final with both those teams but before we get into who are candidates for the Golden Knights potentially having a captain I put odds on it. And how we feel about that as pertains to the organization. my question for both you to start out and they'll start with Dave. How much do we believe in the power of the see? How much do you personally believe? They're having a captain or not. Having a captain affects the team. I think it depends on each team to be quite honest and I don't I we're going to talk about the whole twenty three captains kind of idea in water. That's getting a little bit outdated I guess with the knights but I think every situation's different as we'll discuss. I'm really big on. There's a certain type of player and or personality that I think is a captain and there are other guys that I just don't think necessarily fit as a as a captain in the same way that in business. Maybe some people are better as managers than than others and and things like that. There's a lot that goes into it so I'd lie. Believe it in in the sense of if you have a guy in your locker room on your team who is clearly kind of the ALFALFA. Like that's your St. That's your captain. And if you don't have one then yeah I don't think I don't think you necessarily have to force it and I think that's probably something that I would. Commend REUNITES FOR IT. To be quite honor is not forcing a C. On on somebody's shoulder too early Adam. How about you what are what are your thoughts on kind of the Captaincy in its relative importance in in a team context. I JUST. I feel like they've they've gone. A couple of years without one is really worked for them. And I think I think Dave's right along the lines of like if one establishes himself and somebody somebody just stands out and everybody is just like. Oh wait yeah. That's the guy. I think that that point. Then you then you make the decision but I think when you've gone you know a couple of years and it's really is this concept evolved into of you know everyone and everyone in the room the captain we have twenty three captains. And we're all going to run this and And be the collective leadership group around here and I think even even among that twenty three you know. They've had a kind of a Leadership Group. Stand out from them I think that you're you're doing until somebody just kinda takes a bull by the horns of goes but it's it's pretty clear that you know part of the war coming in is he wants to have that that established guy of he's had before and it's really worked for him so it would make some sense that even though this worked for this organization what's worked for pizza bore has been to have that you know that guy stand out and be the one that takes but those guys decided the past that we discuss our guys it. They just really are clear. Cut You do that. You know like all right. This is the guy so until they have that. I don't know that I would make that decision. But it's pretty clear. Peterborough wants to yes. It's interesting that you kind of bring up those contrasting wants maybe of what the organization is wanted in what pizza bore might want. Let's talk about something both right up there which is the whole twenty three captains thing which I think we kind of all senses a little bit cheesy in a little bit hokey. But it's a philosophy that's really worked for the team and for those that are kind of confused what it means. The nights like to profess that they have twenty three captains. They're twenty three guys maximum on NHL Roster in the nights like thing that they are filling those spots with you know guys that have if not captain potential captain character at the very least that they are you know malcontents just all guys that are willing to Kinda fit into the team and willing to do whatever it takes to help the team win and so when you look through the knights roster guys that kind of come to mind to me that exemplify that our guys like Riley Smith Brayden mcnabb Nick Holden previously peer. Edward Belmar guys that were fully willing to buy into kind of unsexy roles without really complaining. Mcnabb's like cool. I can defend opposing top forwards in get no power playtime. Great Nichols like you can kind of stick me anywhere. In the bottom. Two pairs left side right side. Different partners I won't complain one bit. Awesome Belmar will be penalty. Kill for you be a fourth line center kind of a grinder guy for you. Never complain about kind of ice time awesome. That's what the Nice timing when they profess this twenty three captains thing and like I said it's is a cheesy concept but I do think it's something they actually do. Deserve a little bit of credit for Dave because I think one thing you can say about the Knights. Their first three years is that they do build teams rather than collections of talent. And what I mean by that is there are some teams. I would point to. Toronto is one example that get along talent but those pieces don't necessarily fit in the best way and you can't argue that the sum is greater than the total of the parts where feeling the knights have done a good job balancing the roster so that the sun can be greater than the total. The parts of that makes sense. Yeah does I think it's just part of the culture that they established right from the start that everybody was kind of that misfit. Everybody was cast off from some other team in most cases either in the expansion draft or trades. Whatever it might be. Everybody was kind of all in the same boat. There wasn't somebody that necessarily I guess. Kind of stood out above the group of James. Neal has done some things in his career. Marc Andre Fleury Won Stanley. Cups guys had success but there wasn't anybody that could walk in there and say look. I'm the Guy Everybody's GonNa follow me. I got this and we're good. Everybody was kind of all there together and I think that's what they established and yeah. I agree with you ben I I do think they need to be commended for it. I guess kind of maybe the question. And this is what we're sort of discussing if they've as an organization and a teen evolved past that and whether now three years into this kind of project franchise you know however you WanNa call it if somebody you know. Maybe it's more appropriate for somebody to kind of emerge as the leader as kind of the face of the franchise and things were in that first year. I think they were hesitant to put that label on somebody and I think it's understandable. No totally in so that leads us obviously to this kind of part two of this big idea whether we think a captain is coming as Adam you kind of hinted on this tension. It seems like it might be a push poll with Deboer and the Front office where the Front Office might be more inclined to say like this model of twenty through captains has worked for US whereas deboer might be saying will but this is how I like to run it and this has worked for me in the past and so Adam curious from your perspective. Do you think whether captain ends up coming shows. How much influence may be have in the organization? Maybe but I also don't know how much the organization would push back on him if that's what he wanted to do at at this point where yes. That is what they've done around here. But I think if you're going to you know do what the Golden Knights dead and Make this drastic move and say you know. Drug land is a guy that did so much for us. But we're going to you know. We think that Peterborough is the guy that gotta take the next level it back up there. I think if you're gonNA hand the reins over like that. I think you're going to give you some leeway and I think I think if he wanted to do it. I don't think there's going to be much resistance from the organization. I'm in that regard while the Dave. LemMe ask you this question. If jarred land said at the same time if you still employed by the team I WANNA CAPTAIN. Do you think it would be getting the same? It would get the same potential response from the organization or do you think deboer has already kind of winnowed more influence on the team. Then Glenn had. Yeah that's an interesting question because I wonder how much of it is. Just the timing. If you know kind of three years knew it that they're a little more receptive to the idea and whether if jar gland had brought it up if they would kind of be as receptive as a seem to be right now with with the boers suggestion or if that's maybe another example of them kind of seeing some power I mean. I guess you could look at the goaltending coaching situation and certainly some comments by Pizza Board. There has maybe indicated that Dave prior and and these positions were. I guess a little bit influenced by Pizza Bar. I certainly took his comments of you know I make a decision on the starting goalie to to certainly say that. Pete's bore house some power over the goal tending position or maybe jar gland at least give the appearance in the past. He didn't that might be a change though. So maybe it is an evolution in that regard that that they're willing to take pibor who kind of an outside view and some things. I guess that he's saying maybe you know they're able to look in the mirror a little bit when he's bringing some things like this up but you know again a captain. I think an and we'll talk about this just you know for me. It's such a specific situation. I think it's either you either have it in the locker room armor team or you don't and so I just don't think you force it and maybe maybe it's an issue of PIBOR. See Somebody in that locker room now. Who you know maybe Jar Glenn hadn't worked with as long Kinda hinted Mark Stone you know. Maybe they just feel like this is this is declare guy in and we need to have. Have this happened now. I don't you know I don't opt that could be it. Know it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out whenever the team gets back together. A Dave mentioned mark zone he's GonNa feature prominently in the next part of the show where I go through the odds that I will be giving to each player as to whether they would be named the captain non but before we use all that. Let's take a quick break. They say a healthy gut means a healthy. You favor apple cider vinegar shots bottle. This feeling into the convenience of a two ounce shop better digestion stronger immune system in the lowering of blood. 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Paul Stands Ni at nineteen to one. He's obviously a veteran. These older skater under contract next season. I mean he's already. He's clearly a team. I Guy P played third line center earlier this year without really complaining. Downside he is as we've kind of already mentioned on this podcast maybe the the the least nail down guy out of their core players because only under contract for one more season beyond this one. So I mean Dave. I know you're probably on this ban. Just doesn't seem like because of that. This is happening. He's just not around for the long haul probably. Yeah that's kind of where I would look at him as like you know. If you'RE GONNA put a seon somebody I would want them kind of locked up for a while to know that they're gonna you know at least under contract with the the franchise for awhile. Obviously it's business. You never know what's going to happen you know. Certainly somebody like Alex potential own Saint Louis. There's some questions of whether he'll be back there which seems unusual for a captain but as he just having that one year and and you know maybe if there's compliance buyouts or maybe he's a guy at the trade deadline you know in February or whatever it might be that gets moved for salary or some kind of stuff so I just have a hard time pussy on somebody. That's in his situation as much as a veteran and as much of a cerebral player as is just the situation doesn't match up our. It's the move onto the next guy who is Riley Smith at nine to one. He's one of the main alternate captains as I mentioned earlier. Ited she just kind of a key glue guy that every team needs even though he's not going to get the shiniest praise the big question with him is just does he have that forceful personality to kind of you know. Take a team under his weighing in kind of grab them by the scruff of the neck and lift them up just definitely feels like more of a lead by example Guy Right Adam. Yeah and you know. I think that is a that is a leadership quality that you can have. I mean it's not like it's not like you're that doesn't work. I think a lot of cases. It's the best kind of leadership right where you just go out there and do your job and everybody kind of gets in line behind you. He's he's never really jumped out as that as that guy that wants that. Then see to me so I don't know if that would impact it. I feel like if you kind of went around and asked the teammates. The maybe they would. They would endorse it a little bit. I I just don't know if that's that's the role that he necessarily wants So I a little cautious For to pick him here but the the Stassen example I think he's he's kind of would he be. He'd be the type of player that would want it. But maybe he would he would even go really try to fight for it just to try to help them help his cause of getting of coming back here like getting a new deal of like. Hey come the captain you might try to go for it so that might change odds a little bit that that's interesting. I like that and then I do agree with you. Riley Smith just kind of feels like they just kind of feels right for him to move onto the next guy who has got the same odds Riley Smith and that's an H. At Ninety one but also basically has a Z. Tuck Derek England's by the end of the year. He's obviously super goofy. But while we can all joke about that and point out kind of how funny he is and how he kind of brings that light edged the locker room he also is really really smart and I don't think enough people realize that about him. He's the teams. Nhl Pa Rep. He is really thoughtful if you ever have. Kind of an introspective conversation with him. He's a really good guy. Talk to because he's funny but because he can really bounce ideas off of you to all that being said Dave. I just can't imagine that because of that goofy side of his personality. He's a guy you give the C. To right just staying at. Because he's a gopher any like star wars rate does help. Those are two could good strikes disfavor. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Introspective about the the star wars movies. That's what that's what That's been getting thing can have conversations for days. May the fourth was great yesterday takeaway. Td It seems a good reason to put him no. I mean in all seriousness though. He's almost it's almost like he's the he's the polar opposite of Riley Smith and I say that because Rally Smith strikes me as the guy who's kind of the worker bee and wants to be in the background but behind the scenes when the doors are closed and things. I think he's one of the guys that you know. Maybe some of the players will listen to when he speaks up because he probably doesn't do it too often. I guess I just wonder like with him just to go back with him and not to like create. I guess an issuer controversy or something. That isn't there but he was. He's such a jar gland guy and I wonder if kind of as things evolve and things like that not not that rallies has an issue with anybody. Obviously I'm not intimating that but just he. I think he was just so attached to our gallant. That I wonder if he if he could be pizza. Boris captain I don't know but kind of the same thing like he gets a occasionally and he certainly vocal and we don't really think of him as a leader. But yeah like you said Ben. Behind closed doors when things are more serious and you know obviously the NHLPA Issues and things like that. I just think even even game by game you know having gone through the Washington organization scholar experience you went through that Stanley Cup final. You know he's been around a little bit at this point. I think Nate Schmidt's work carries a little bit of weight. Where maybe a couple of years ago it didn't so he was somebody that. I certainly dismissed like right away. No you know needs to make come on no way and the more and more I think about it the more and more. I don't WanNa be as dismissive about the possibility of it like I. I feel like I'm almost kind of insulting him away by saying there's no way that he can be a captain but I do think you know. His odds are probably a little slimmer yet. I think that nine to one is probably about right. He is I will give him this credit. He's the top ranked defenceman on my list. He's actually the only defenceman that I ranked. Because now we're GONNA get into kind of final three guys going to start with actually another jar Glenn Guy and so maybe this will come up with the same issues. Dangerous described Nets Jonathan. Marsha ZO WHO BEAT. Oh the self-described spider monkey isn't afraid of as not afraid to scrap. The team does seem to rally around him. I did you know a piece on him for the paper this week. And it is kind of remarkable the team's record when he scores a goal versus the team's record when he doesn't and obviously that skewed a little bit. Because you know the team. All shutouts are counted in fact where he doesn't score a goal but the team does seem to gain energy when he plays. Well he's the year guy I think the most people could get behind and connect to because he kinda represents both the past present and future of the organization. Could he still under contract for a few years ago? That said I don't think he quite fits all the criteria you're looking for in a you do wonder whether that's the guy you want your young players coming up through the system looking to like okay. I WANNA be a part of the Golden Knights Organization so I need to look to Jonathan Marsha. So as the example. I'm curious as to whether that's the message. The team of ultimately going to send them. Yeah like A. I feel like it's almost going to crossing. Were insulting guys like like a day was pointing out. You don't WanNa come across like you're insulting me. That hugest he's a different kind of guy. And I think the same goes for Marcia. So in that like he he he absolutely is a very important like force in the locker room and I think-i he brings something to the locker. They definitely need. But I just don't feel like that is the that is what they would want to go with as a captain an Mentioning with Riley's Mythili Dave pointed out and this was going to be my absolute Stance on Marsha. So that he's to meaty worry too way too tired of with jargon to to you know to be the guy that would take over as captain under to bore or like maybe conversely if you look at another way like that's how you kind of draw that bridge in say. Listen this is a this is definitely a guy. Everybody knows that You like what I've come in and I I've seen what I liked out of him and I wanNA make them captain. I mean that would make some sense too. I just I feel like on the surface. It just seems way too way too connected with the overseen to you know to be the guy that would step up as the captain for beat the bore. So let me ask you about that day. 'cause do you agree with I? Guess Adams Point if he could be a bridge between the Glenn Indoor regime or do you think he's I mean because to me even more than Riley Smith he is attached to gland. I mean Jonathan Marceau is basically just said straight up. That's my guy that's the guy that gave me my nhl career so you think almost too attached to be Damore captain. So I don't know if you guys can hear this in the back room where there's a you know a trash truck that's driving. Why picking up everything which seems like perfect symbolism right now. I'm so against Jonathan March so being captain and come no idea the idea. I think it's trash. So so here's the thing I'm Gonna I'm GonNa try to explain this and insult myself in a way so I am Jonathan Marcha so okay. I was player Straw chip on my shoulder. Loud mouth like speaking just too emotional. There is no way that I should be leading anything. You know what I mean. I'm not wired for it. That's not my personality. That's not who I am. John the March so is not a captain on the team to be fiery and do what he did after game one in the Western Conference finals in. Speak up when you know when somebody needs to speak up of anger up backward up but there are certain things in a locker room in. There are certain dynamics that just kind of go with hockey and the captain to some extent is an authority figure in that locker room and if you are the little loud mouths that's fighter monkey year. Thority is challenged. What are you GonNa do and a less? You are the absolute clear best player on that team. Unless you're somebody like Martin. St Louis was with the lightning. The little guy is is just. It doesn't work. It's it's not what a captain is and I. I don't know how to explain it any way than not just every team. I've ever been on every locker room I've ever covered you know during my career. As a journalist there certain people that are just cut out for it and there are certain personalities that just don't just don't make the right fit with that and it's nothing against him but I just see this is I can put myself in in those shoes and I would not be a good captain. I just don't think John March so is a good captain Means a not lear. He's a good leader. He's just as leader in his own way. And I think if you st on him changes everything. You're hiatus sizes three call. Yeah side somebody. Who's five eight clear like? He thought he was fixed. Four and I can totally relate to everything then Jonathan Marcus Darshan instead in everything. But he's just not a captain. I'm I'm just. That's the one thing with with this issue that I will like plant the flag on no offense Johnson March. So I'll stay this if you took me off the beat and you said okay if you were just a Golden Knights Fan. Which player would you like instantly? I would say Jonathan March so my favorite player. But I just don't think he's a captain my big takeaway from Dave's little spiel. There is that the two of us were very opposite hockey players. Because I am six four six five I play like I'm five eight because I didn't hit anybody out there. Even when I was a defenseman problem we'll move onto our next guy. Now that the day of has planted his flag around the top two but the second place guy has gave the same odds to marshes. So and. That's Max Patch Ready. Who's an obvious candidate? Because he's already been a captain in Montreal. He knows the pressure that comes with wearing that C- he knows the responsibilities. He also just and this is the weird intangible quality he gives off a quote unquote grownup vibe. Is how to describe it us. All this is all I wanNA talk about. I saw that in your notes and it's all I wanted to talk about. I lost why are you is. Are you looking for like father? Figures in the locker room like I don't understand where that came from grownup vibe. So a bunch of kids. So what I what I meant by. That is veterans respect. His play right like pulse. Tasni loves playing with the Mark Stone just respects it into the trump team th degree. I think a bunch of guys in that locker room like man. Patrick is really good and then youngsters. Like a cody glass. Look up to him. I mean cody glass famously. I think went over for tacos before his NHL debut at the patch ready household. So I think patch ready can at once be respected by the older guys in the locker room and then be a role model and kind of I mean as you brought up at a father figure to the younger guys do think is kind of an important quality to have and for that reason? I think his odds theoretically should be much higher than what even put them at. But the only reason they're not is the question of does he want it because. I think he's been not too subtle hinting that being the captain in Montreal especially being the english-speaking captain it for a French speaking city in a major Canadian media market just wore on him and so I think part of the appeal of getting traded to the knights was. You don't have to be the guy you can kind of pick your spots where you have to be kind of the voice the team and he still is the voice team a fair amount but certainly not as much as he wasn't Montreal and I think he's enjoying that too much to give that up and put himself back out there again. Adam do you agree. Yeah and you don't even have to talk about because you crushed it. Exactly what I was GONNA. Mexico ready is the I like to me. He's the absolute slam dunk choice. No question about it. He's the guy that should be the captain. I just don't think he wants it in for all the reasons that you rated. I think that he was embracing very much going from a place where he had all that pressure of being the captain in all is him all the time to a place that had the As we talked about twenty three captors that he could planning to be a player. And be one of the guys in. And just be a part of this and listen. It's different Captain in Vegas is much different than being a captain Montreal. I get that part of it. I just feel like he has absolutely embraced. This notion of everybody's a captain it'd be the captain off. Be The guy that's always looked at. Even though he kind of is in a lot ways like he's he's he's just in there so I don't think I don't think he wants any part of that and I could be wrong. Maybe he's taking a step back and said you know it'll be different here but I just can't imagine that he would want to jump up and take that all right. Well I wanna jump off something you just said there. Let me quick get to our first place miniature who is mark stone a three two odds. I mean just clearly the odds on favorite. He's the highest paid player. Probably their best player for sure. I would think you know if you can debate between he and Paddy. But he's one of their top two skaters. I Guess Unquestionably and along with William Carlson. He's under contract as long as anyone teasing emotional leader on the ice. He's also a guy that does some things off the ice to help guys out like he took in. Patan cribs This fall the nights twenty nine thousand first round pick krebs rehabbing a torn torn Achilles. I should say in Las Vegas. This fall stones that. Hey don't stay in the hotel they put you up in. Come stay with and my girlfriend so stoned subtle. Things like that kind of help. Bring a team closer together so for all those reasons. I put him as the odds on favorites. Captain Who Adam you said you would prefer Max Patch Radi so before I s Dave kind of his thoughts on Marston. Why why do you prefer Patrick to sell and potentially I think he's done it. I think he's also a guy. That is a little bit more vocal. I don't think I think you know stone. Is I think very nuanced. In what he you know when he gives interviews and that sort of thing. I think he's good at it but I think he's just a little bit more demure against in his in his approach and I think I think petroni is just that guy in like he has the experience. He's done it before. Nfl A key. I feel like he's some kind of a weird combination of like the old guard in the newer guard. I I don't know just get that feeling that he's that he's that good bridge. I just like everything about what he does. But clearly stone is the favorite in this. This realm Just because I think that you know as as you pointed out he's on a contract for a long time He's a guy that came in really embraced. Everything about it here was so excited to play here and was instantly kind of just a part of the team like all. Those things are absolutely true. He's such a great player. The best all around player on the team all those things are are the case so I think he's absolutely the favorite in this in this exercise to be the first guy to be captain Dave. What are your thoughts on on stone? Is this the guy that you're kind of hinting at would be the reason that debare can make these comments yeah? I don't even think I was so much hinting at it. Pretty much came right. San At nine. Let me let me go back to patty a little bit. Like I mean you're kinda saying he's like an old soul. Yeah is that is that? Maybe where? You're going with C. A GROWNUP VI- dessert. So I think he's only thirty one years old but he does give off the old soul vibe kind of where going with that a little bit too is. I feel like toward the second. Half of this season Max Patrick of teaching Mark Stone how to be captain and there were certain games where when they lost that knocks. Patty was still the one out there kind of giving the message staying. You know the things that they want to come out of that locker room. That's kind of the role of the captain when when times are tough. That's the guy who's got to speak and and say what you know. The players essentially want said for them and I think a lot of Mac petry's role lately has been teaching Mark Stone. Kind of how to do that. Sort of you know the the bigger media side. I guess you could say of being captain. You mentioned picking crabs and you can go back to even mark stone when when he was Ottawa. Did the same thing with Brady could shock. We kind of bringing in younger player taking under his wing. You know starving. Is that mentor or things like that. But it's just for me. Mark Stone is the guy that everybody has been waiting to grab Hobart and pizza kind of hinted at it when when he's going he's rolling. Everybody just follows along. That's that's what the captain is and the only the only kind of reservation I have with it is is sort of that. Public does Mark Stone. Want to always deal with us. I guess you could say an all having to to be the face because I think there are times and again I can relate to this I I can understand it. He is just Oltra competitive and he after lost just. He is grit your teeth and in a foul mood and you know doesn't WanNa talk and I get that I would be the same way. I hate losing more than I like winning. And I think he's kind of the same way part of being a captain though is is being able to get out front and take it on the Chin for the team a little bit and I think he's learning that he's twenty seven years old like you said Ben. He's got the long contract. He's the face of the franchise in in every regard in terms of points in terms of salary in terms of the high profile trade. That they Wayne got this guy in in kind of anointed him. A little bit said right away. This is our player you know whether it was the top down. Everybody kind of agreed this this guy and and for that reason once he's ready to take hold of it he's he's the one that's gotta be the sea because he's the one going forward that's going to be leading the team on on and off the ice and ultimately that's that's what a captain is yes it seems like we definitely have a consensus favorite quickly before we wrap up through the field real quick because I did leave the field at nineteen to one. Just just leave a slight smidge of an opening for someone outside of those guys. I mentioned to grab it. If all of a sudden goalies become seat eligible or teams are more willing to put a C. On Goalie Maybe Marc Andre. Fleury slips in there maybe if they bring back dirk England for some reason on a one year deal kind of give it to him for safekeeping for a year and delay giving it to stone. I'm sure there's other candidates that could pop up. If Gold Nights FANS WANNA DREAM THAT PORTRAY ANGELO. Who Dave mentioned becomes a Does end up becoming a free agent and for some reason the nights or able to fill vitamin under their salary cap restrictions. Maybe he could grab it. I don't know I just wanted to leave that door open there but I probably wouldn't bet on it and then quickly just to jump go ahead. Sorry really quick. I do think it's it's fair to mention flurry in the context of leadership though because obviously he can't wear a C. And we're not talking about him but I do think you know. I don't want to overlook his impact in the locker room. And certainly the leadership that he provides the guy who's won Stanley Cups and they set up the the first couple of years to the you know when the when it came to crunch time when it came to the playoffs. It was flurry that that the guys were kind of looking to listening to. And even though he can't were AC- I certainly think his leadership can't be Can't be overstated. I guess I think I think if like they would have done it. You're not long after the war came in and they would've said hey. We're going to name a captain here. For the last month of the season an England would have been perfect choice to say. Hey this is his last month kind of around perhaps We want to name a captain in. We're GonNa make England be the first one he's going to be the first captain in team history and then kind of pass it on. Pass the torch when he's done onto a guy like mark stone. I think that would have made a ton of sense of Like all of us in the world but I think now with with the way it's looking the season would just be you know playoffs essentially so. I don't think that would happen so I think that makes it a little a little less likely but that would have been a nice move. I think for the organization it'd be like hey he's the first captive in our history and then we're gonNA pass. The stone passed the stone. Passed the torch from there to stone that would would have been. I think the right thing to do right so quickly before we wrap up. Of course it gave odds for anyone. Dave using pretty dead set is going to be marked stone. Do the do by three to two odds. Do Anything to dissuade you at all or you. You ride in hard for that. No I take that I play that 'cause I'd make him at like two to five or some kind of favorite you know so if I was getting money back on that bad heck yeah to run down to the window and input a put a little bit on. Even their Laura are fine sports editor bill. Bradley does not let us Wager on nature also just for entertainment purposes. Only bill I mean. The Mark. Stones odds should probably be higher than free to but just for the purposes of this exercise. The math for everyone else wouldn't have worked out as well if he you know was sixty percent odds basically or anything. That's just that's just my skewed captain power ratings. You know I got him. I got weighted. Pretty Heavily Adams their underdog that you like here. Would you take stone over the field as well as if you're going to give you that? Nineteen to one. I might take the shot that they they do some ceremonial Derek. England thing that you win on a technicality. Something like that where they're like. Hey we're making Marston the captain but we're going to retroactively named Derek England. I captain in some tricks. Some tricky stuff like that that. I think you could try to cash but I'm just looking for ways to beat the favorite. That's how I like to to bet. Always like trying to bet against the favorite in a horse race. So I'M GONNA I'm GonNa try to find ways to go against but I think it's going to be so. Yeah I I respect your logic but I think I gotta take stone to just because I will admit I kind of under under seated him just for the purposes of making this exercise more fun will thank you guys for playing along. Thanks to everyone who listened. Hopefully that was entertaining. 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Itunes stitcher spotify excetera. Make sure to check out all our trade deadline coverage at review journal Dot Com because we had a quite a lot of it over the last couple of days when also WANNA remind guys. That Eagle Niche podcast is sponsored by Sti Sports Mobile From Station Casinos in today we are presented by untuckit. So we think those companies for their support Gentlemen I'm here with of course Adam Hill and Dave. Shane my great colleagues at the Review Journal. Have Your head stopped spinning from everything that happened on Monday? I'm looking at Dave. I feel like no. I think he's drowning skittles right now. Just kind of figuring things out Also did you run out of podcast platforms to talk about or did you just decide to stop? I just decided to stop. We have so much hockey to get to. I wanted to get to the hockey. As quick as preferred I referred to rehash all of your podcast platform run down. That was impressive. I was I was enjoying that. And then you just cut it off so there's running on adrenaline like Davis. You know I feel bad for Nick Holden. Moment he gets a two year contract and it just gets buried three fair. I wrote about him today. Show like I think we we still. We still doesn't give us a moment though you know nick. Holden doesn't want a moment. I if anybody wants a moment other than like Nate Schmidt in that locker room yeah secretly. It's probably Nicole and you know what I think you're I think you're right. It's the public persona of Nicole than is just kind of quiet business and that's not what is in reality. He's a fun Goofy Guy. One of my favorites Road traditions when you're covering the Golden Knights on the road is that you're waiting for the locker room to open. You can talk to players in the locker room and nick hold them. We'll just walk out to get his pre-game stretching teams but hey guys no sorry not available. You know interviews. Today guys have swamped too busy good. He's a very. He's very personable guy but he doesn't really show that he just UCF. As I think publicly to see him as like family guy and he's got the four kids Just kind of goes about his business but then if you talk to players like behind the scenes hilarious and he's rewarded. I thought it was very telling in announcing the contract extension again Nicole and two years he was gonna be a free agent at the end of the season gets a two year extension for less money than he's making now but he decided he wanted to be around here and when you they announced the extension it's of course you know it's what he doesn't ic- he's a solid player He just kind of fills his role. But what are they talking about? Good Dude everybody likes him even on the road. He's in the visiting team's locker rooms because everyone around the league dislikes him he just such a a good guy so I think it was pretty telling that that's kind of how they announce it of like. Hey this is a guy that we want and when I talked to him yesterday About resigning he was like. Yeah maybe I could have made more money if went to free agency. I don't know it could have been good could have been bad but I just love it here. I WANNA be here. My kids love it here so I thought that was pretty telling. I did a terrible job asking the question because I was trying to be polite and I didn't. I didn't know how to phrase it without kind of insulting him. But you know it's a two year contract and you know Nick Holden's thirty two right now. I think it'll be thirty four like you never know if he's going to be your seventh defenceman. That's kind of what I was getting with with everything with that question when I asked killing the criminal about it but my point with it was when you have a guy who might or is a seventh defenceman at certain point. You can't have somebody that's in there complaining about playing time going to their agency and I wanNA trade rocking the boat and all that Nick Holden is going to be the furthest thing from the if if that happens and again I don't want to just project that and say where because he's played really well you know he's going to be on the third night against the oilers they bumped. Alec MARTINEZ UP. But he's kind of that utility guy he's if if it turns into he's your extra guy. You want something like Nick Holden there. I see that as just you know with the highest compliment. Yeah totally and I think that's something that Brad Hunt gave them for a while. Brad Hunt Kinda needed. That's just his own job. Security were Brad. Hunt was pending free agent. He's like well. I gotTA play. 'cause I WANNA stay in the NHL and he stayed in the NHL with Minnesota. But I think that's kind of what the nights are going for here. An affable dude is great in the locker room who can provide some depth than the Blue Line. We will get back to Nick Holden. Probably and how as Dave mentioned that contract might affect the nights future but I think we gave him do off the top here Let's dive into other things. Yeah the bigger headline deals that the knights made on Monday at the trade deadline. The Knights of course had previously The last time Dave and I got together to record sent to second round picks to the Los Angeles Kings for Alec Martinez who has decided to just go off offensively after being not an offensive guy for the entire career and I'm sure he will eventually kind of go back to his career norms but he is certainly looking like a find pickup so far then over the weekend they send cody Eakin to his hometown. Winnipeg jets in exchange for a Fourth Round. Pick that can become a third round pick if the jets make the playoffs or resign. Ekin Ekin to Winnipeg for cap space. Yes they essentially cap space which they then used in part to acquire two players on Monday. Nixon's was kind of bottom six. You Know Filler guy from the Montreal Canadians kind of took a one year deal with Comedians. To resurrect his career because he was waived by. I believe it was the coyotes who didn't want him back signed a one-year one million-dollar with Canadians was having a is having a career year in terms of points per game. Which is still only. He's got twenty two points and I believe fifty six game so now is going to give you a ton of offense but kind of a bottom six grinder and that was in exchange for a twenty twenty one fourth round. Pick what we allowed to say on this podcast really quick. We are would like do. We have sensors we because Alec Martinez gave the like the best quote about Nick causing center. Yourself Yeah so we call them a bleep disturb over which I think is just like the best description of a you know a bottom six just past that you can never have enough of in the playoffs like I am all about having guys like that on your team I you know I know I can't say the word. I'm sure everybody can figure it out. There's an Emoji that you know little kids probably like to to you know do on the phones but anyway what? I thought you know I just thought it was the best description probably of of nick cousins and what people can expect of him no bothers you yes he does. Yeah agitate yeah good word. Good good as bleep to stern out here the PG way to phrase it so that was a move that got announced basically after the deadline it was three PM eastern time you have to basically have your trade queued up with the League in order for it to go through so a lot of trades can still be kind of broken news wise after the deadline. because teams are just on hold waiting for the NHL to make them officials so that was one and then before the deadline the obviously biggest talker there were spend a lot of time talking about and kind of debating as that the knights acquired goaltender Robin Lehner from the Chicago. Blackhawks in exchange for Malcolm Sudan a second round. Pick and prospect Slava Damon. They also got the Toronto Maple leafs involved in the deal. They sent them a fifth round. Pick so that the maple leafs who have a couple of players on L. T. I. R. Will take up some lanes remaining salary this year. Because layer is a pending unrestricted free agent. So the nights get some cap relief. They add leaner had not a huge hit to their books but now they have just absolutely fascinating goalie situation. I mean we could talk a lot. About how Malcolm Zubin who is now. The Chicago Blackhawks was not getting it done for them in net and Kelly mckernan made that very clear in his post deadline comments. We can talk about hallmark. Laundry flurry has not been necessarily at his best this year though he's certainly been better lately. Now all of a sudden you add a guy who was a Vezina trophy finalist last year to your room. Which by the way Marc Andre? Fleury has never been a veteran a finalist. There's obviously the angle of Robin. Lehner is a fascinating human. Being who has a wealth of interesting things to say powerful things to say He was one of the clear highlights for me at the NFL award. Show last year in Las Vegas. Leave this up to you. Start with you David. Where do you WANNA start? With the fact that the Golden Knights have acquired Roman Lane Robin Lehner. And what kind of jumps out to you about that transaction. I felt like you needed a fire extinguisher. Walking out of there because he just absolutely roasted Malcolm soon you know and I know it's a harsh business and I'm sure climate crime and probably would go back and say some things differently. Maybe I don't know you know. But he was very candid and honest that they did not have confidence that Malcolm Soobee and can win in the playoffs. They basically couldn't wait for him to develop into the heir-apparent. Marc Andre Fleury any longer. They need to win right now. And they didn't feel like if something happened to Marc Andre Fleury. Whether that be he continues to kind of being consistent like we talked about the end of last year right or if something like again we saw last year that he gets hurt and they have to go to Sudan. You know in the playoffs. You see all the time teams get down. Change a goalie looking for a spark something. Dif- whatever it might be Marc. Andre Fleury knows that firsthand from Pittsburgh I mean. There was a point in the two thousand sixteen playoffs against Tampa Bay. I believe where he came in relieved not Murray and then got the start the next game. I don't think he wanted but played pretty well. Actually and Mary regain the starting creased up winning that series they won the Stanley Cup. But it happens all the timing. You need to have faith that the the guy that you're going to go to or could go to can get it done and can carry. You can get on a hot streak. They just didn't feel like Malcolm Sudan can do that and to me. It says they feel like they have a team up front on defense. You know that. They're eighteen skaters. They feel. I can win a Stanley Cup as long as they get quality goaltending and they just didn't feel like Malcolm Sudan was in there that that was going to be the case and they didn't want to risk it. That was my big takeaway too. Is That you look at the Knights Roster and I guess we should mention how well they're playing right now. I mean this is a team. That's kind of lit the world on fire this previous homestand and then an a brief swing on the road in Anaheim but yeah I think it was his Kelly mccrum looking Malcolm Soobhan and saying you will not blow this for us. We have spent especially the past two years assembling a top notch. Roster that is playing kind of top notch right now in terms of you trade for Max Patch ready and Mark Stone. You Resign William Carlson to a pretty team friendly deal. You add pulse. Tasmania now you've added Alec Martinez previously that Group. They've gotten rid of cody. You took a flyer on Chandler Stevenson. It's really worked out like you got a ton of guys playing really really well like now right now. Shaffi door is obviously a big headline item in that group as well and so that they were not gonNa let knock him soon. Be The reason that this team didn't go far. If like Dave said something happened to Marc Andre Fleury now that being said it still is kind of a luxury by in terms of like I mentioned earlier. Robin Lehner is a rental. The nights as we're recording today. Maybe I'll pay yes. His contract runs out Yorkshire and the nights as recording. Today have eighteen games remaining. They play tonight against the Edmonton oilers. So while the average rental player was going to give you eighteen games of production Robin Lehner is going to give you what we think. Nine maybe at most. If you literally literally split the starts between him and Marc Andre Fleury's that makes it interesting but he's certainly a guy that you want to have in your back pocket too. You can certainly understand that logic. Statham what were your thoughts on the medial clear. Clearly it was a Hey. We cannot as everything they've said we cannot go into the playoffs in this is from the Golden Knights respective worrying that if something happened in my country. Flu Season's over like Dick. They cannot with the way that they built this roster. You can't have that That chance but I think it does go further into some sort of question about where Marc Andre Fleury is. I mean if you look on paper. Certainly his last five games. He's been much much better in the defense of implied much better in front of him in giving that opportunity. But you know we talk so much about the analytics of the skaters five on five. And how how? Well they've been and they haven't. The record hasn't quite matched up to how they played. The analytics have not been good this year so as as well as they played out front. Think there's some question of where is he wears his game. Is he going to be able to carry this team all the way through? I know that they wanted to make sure they had the trust in the backup in order to give flurry some. Rasta missionaries fresh for the playoffs. And all those other things. But I don't think right now. They're going into the saying well Leonard Tobacco. I think. It's let's see who plays well down the stretch. And who are starters in the playoffs? I do think there's a question in their mind. Who their best goalies right now? Yeah I think that's fair to bring up that it's not just a matter of if something happens to Marc Andre Fleury meaning he pulls a muscle and gets hurt or something. It's what if he continues to. Let's say underperform and you want a spark in a series. You get down to warn you down to nothing or something you know. I mean like I wrote brain. Hope he wasn't starter. The beginning of the postseason when the capitals went on their Stanley Cup run it was filled. Gruber and they've gotten a to nothing whole against Columbus now it's not that Hopi rescued him or anything like that. But you know you go to a different goal. You happens all the time and maybe make a change in you which are trying to do is find the guy who is the hot hand and you ride them and that ends up being Robin Lehner. If that ends up being Marc Andre Fleury. I don't think anybody really cares short term if they're lifting the Stanley Cup. Who's I still think the fans do? But the Golden Knights sorry to tell people the Organization cares zero about what you think and they just want their names on the cup and it doesn't matter who's in the blue paint at that point they'll figure it out later. That's the other thing I think with. All this is just you know it speaks to. Where's the long term with Marc Andre? Fleury clearly they've they've kind of reset as far as okay. What's the what's the succession plan? And who's GONNA take over? Because they were very you know they were very open about Malcolm Suzanne. That they felt like could be your would be a number one would be the guy that eventually takes over and you know like. I said earlier they just they just couldn't wait on that. I if they're listening to the Stanley Cup in June They'll gladly have to figure out where they're going to get a backup goalie point It's the same with pizza. I mean they they said okay. We feel like we need to make a change to you. Know to give us the best chance to win this season. It seems to have worked to jump. Start the team a little bit. The way that they've played. Sarli these last five. Six Games has been on a different level where they do look like a championship contender where they didn't for much of the season the they show that they are. They're willing to make any decision. They have to to put this team in the best position to win. And I think if you play these last say say. The plan is nine and nine these last eighteen years. I don't know what the plan is. They've talked about it. They did say Marc Andre Fleury starts tonight. This is Wednesday gives a couple extra days to kind of get familiar acclimatize. I think the word and potentially play against Buffalo. Yeah on Friday. Obviously one of his former teams may be a little psyched up for that. You know but it's it's possible to go ninety nine and split them right down the middle and that was something they certainly weren't doing with Su man It gives flurries and rest. And it also gives it's an audition for WHO's GonNa who if you asked right now who the game. One starter is in the playoffs. I think it's because they're familiar with AMIS here but that could certainly be different in a month. It's fluid that sets the word. It's a fluid situation situation absolutely. It was not going to be you know as we've talked about a fluid situation with Malcolm Sudan. It seemed very telling. And we've talked about this when it happened but pibor basically said when he took over and I asked him in Minnesota like. What's your kind of goalie rotation plan you said there isn't one the best guy starts every night and I think we all had our eyebrows raised that statement and said that's a really odd thing to say. When you're starters a thirty five year old goaltender will. The nights probably felt that way too and said Yeah. It's not a rotation because we don't think Malcolm Suzanne IS GOING TO BE. Our Guy Did win his last restarts now. They were cut two of them. Were kind of wild six five game right. He had to get bailed out a little bit. Basically and you know to to those games. The defense wasn't tremendous in front of him. But you know it's not like they could not win when he was in that but I think I if if you're looking at him saying is he going to be a guy that goes out and gives us a shutout or only allowed one goal and gives us a chance to win. We're not our best. They didn't have that faith and I think a lot of that was also you know they weren't confident enough to play him enough to get into a rhythm because we saw when he played more. He wasn't a rhythm but they didn't they never got that confidence level to where. Hey we can give them more and more starts. Get him that ability to be confident. I do think that they believe he can still be a very good goaltender one day. But they're they're they don't have time to wait on that they don't have time to develop them right now and so move on and I think he showed tom-tom again an unbelievable talent to make some unbelievable save some great plays in that kind of taunted you a little bit because there was the inconsistencies and there were times off of quick change turnovers faceoffs where he just didn't seem locked in and ready as much as he would. If they're the fee had a little bit of time to have to try to make save he would do it but there were times where he wasn't complete focus and I. I don't know that he that. They had the confidence that he was. He was showing the ability to be ready like tomorrow. It was more a year from now two years now and they were. They weren't gonNA wait. Yeah I think that's kind of you summed up career where it's kind of just been summed up by inconsistency in this kind of chicken or the egg scenario where you can always be like. Willy doesn't look great but are they not putting him in the best situations to succeed and also teammates don't appear to be playing well in front of him but also much of that. He's just not covering up for some of the poor team defense that the nights are playing whereas more country flurry does cover that up a little bit and gives them one or two bailout saves a game that you kind of need at the NHL Level. It'll co elkem. Does Chicago Blackhawks. I mean that feels like a as you kind of mentioned anime team. That's a slightly better fit for him in terms of they're not trying to win it all now. They traded quite a few players The past couple days with obviously lehner being one of them they also traded their defenseman Gustafsen. Who's a really good offensive player? Someone that we speculated where the Knights might be interested in he has a lot of defensive deficiencies though and ultimately was moved At the deadline. But that might be a spot for Malcolm to kind of have some growing pains down the stretch here But he is going to have to play really well because he's once again a free agent at the end of this off season. He's a restricted free agent. He's kind of playing for his career at this point and so interesting. See where that goes. Can I jump in? This is no no sorry I the only reason I want I mean. I WanNa be a little bit devil's advocate here in kind of be the negative Nancy about it and not to be too harsh but you know what you're talking about and part of part of this is Malcolm Superman didn't earn those starts like with his performance and and yeah we can talk about the situation and the guys in front of like that game on Sunday in Anaheim that was Malcolm Sudan's entire career in a microcosm he made a handful of like unbelievable saves and then it's five three and you figure you know okay. You got three minutes to just get it over the finish line here no big deal and then it just ends up being a white knuckle ride because he gives up a rebound gives up a goal and then you can just see like everybody. Everybody has doubt at that point of whether it's GonNa stay for every shot becomes. Hold your breath and you can't have that DHL level. It's just the one thing like you talked about Ben whether it's covering up for it or what. That's the difference. That's the difference between you. Know guys who start out as backups. And the thing is is yet stinks and it's a hard job and you never get putting good situations. You're always getting the signature of back to back and you know all these other different situations that are favorable but you know what almost every back of goes to that situation and the good ones are the ones that elevate and still put up numbers and still figure out a way to get on a run. Get on a hot streak and earn those starts basically it never just. It never quite happened that way with Malcolm. Subbiah nut in consistency. You know like you said it's a tantalizing you see the saves you know you see the lateral movement you see the explosiveness an and all that sort of stuff and then you just see the other times where at the end of the game you go. Well you still give four goals. He still give it five goals. You know four of the last five games. He gave up four goals or more. I think he's three and or something like that was like you know. He had the good he has now. He's getting the run support all of a sudden always the thing with him. He never got the run support. Well now he's getting it now. It's basically kind of masking the fact that you know in the last three minutes. He's got to lean. You're basically you know on a roller coaster ride hanging on for dear life with them and it's not the way that you want to be going into the last twenty games of a season when you're fighting in the division and going into a postseason where you feel like there's a path potentially there for you to make a run. Yeah the night's have decided to of course get off that roller coaster ride. They are now in the Marc Andre Fleury and Robin Lehner Business and as we mentioned it's GonNa be fascinating to see how that business develops throughout the rest of the regular season and the postseason. We're GONNA talk about some other moves. 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I think one key thing that this allows the team to do is to move Kanter Stevenson potentially to center David. I of course had him on our special podcast. A couple episodes ago he has to check that out and he mentioned that he likes playing center a little bit better. He has certainly performed at center a little bit better so that opens up a spot for him with Alex. Tuck on long term injured reserve currently but expected to come back by the end of the regular season that gives Nick Wa some regular playing time in the NHL Right now so it certainly gives them a new third line and a new thing to kind of play with their which is something that they've kind of needed all season because you know most third-line combinations season involved cody Eakin and Alex Talk. And they were not working. Dave Yeah I mean I think there's a little element of maybe the Brad Hunt stuff at work here too. With cody can going back to Winnipeg. Certainly he serves a purpose. Winnipeg needed somebody down the middle. The you know. Kinda strengthen the bottom six and and do a lot of the things that he was doing here but Kalama crimen kind of talked about the emergence like you said one challenge Stevenson. You know at center but also Nick Law and they just feel deeper down the middle once. They're all healthy and they felt. I think like you know the CODA iguanas basically expendable at that point. If they had to move somebody he's almost making four million dollars. You can clear a lot of room and you still feel good about your center spot. You know if I'm if I'M GONNA play manager like yeah. I'm doing that. Move to so I think from that standpoint. I don't want to say it's a no brainer but it makes a lot of sense you know cody can go somewhere where. He's going to have a chance to resign. I mean certainly you know twenty two goals last year but he's going to have to walk into negotiating the summer off what's been kind of a sub par season who knows where you know. The market's going to be for him and things like that. You know going back to Winnipeg. Maybe he's able to impress your last one games. Maybe they get to the playoffs. Maybe the nights see them in the first round. I mean also right. Now it's kind of lined up that way right. Gordie wants to go to Winnipeg. That would be fascinating. See how this kind of new look. Third-line performs released as long as Alex. Talk still and lt are. Nick will play first game for Golden Knights. Tonight as we're recording this. He just arrived in Las Vegas. He had some visa issues that delayed his arrival other quick moves. You want to get to like I mentioned about the top Alec Martinez actually looked really good for the first three games. He's been with the nights he is now been moved up to the second pair with Shea Theodore Atom. I know you got a chance to talk to him a little bit today. Just kind of wears your sense of where his head's at now? Kind of being a little bit more acclimated to this team into Las Vegas for the first thing. You mentioned the fact that he's kind of had an offense of outburst in these few few games here with the Nice. I think that a lot of that is just kind of being freed. He was with the king's his whole career. But you know these have not been great certainly for the Kings in this year in particular. Just Kinda you know just kind of existing on a team that where he's won championships and now he's in the same place. But you know the team is not what it has been in the past and it. Just kinda languishing there. I think he's just excited to be away from there But right now he's looking around saying I've been here five days and I'm not the new guy anymore. Like this is Kinda cool. He said some of the guys are like hey kind of ask him for advice on how to you know going into the teams went into the city. Like be a part of it and he's like I can help you. I guess but these other guys are going to be much better than me. I've only been here five days. But he does. He is look around now like right now. I'm not the only new guy in here. There's some other guys that are kind of joining in being a part of this as well. I I you know he seems you know thrilled to be back in a cup race in in in the playoff picture and now he's going to have the chance to play wish theodore tonight and we'll see how that pairing kind of evolves. I Know Pete the board said he's just kind of experimenting now. He doesn't want to do in the playoffs. He's trying to figure out who works together but he talks about being very excited to play with a guy like Shea Theodore who is so often simply talented in such a gifted player in Martinez can be that veteran presence with them so I think he's kind of excited about being part of that tonight. Yeah I think one thing you mentioned there in terms of him being a veteran and then him you know giving guys advice or lack thereof one thing. That's really interesting to me. Is that his lockers right next to Zach white clouds and I think you know we talked about David when they acquired him lassie or last. Podcast about how he's two-time cup winner he brings kind of these intangibles that are hard to quantify potentially to your locker room. I mean that's one thing that I think you can point to like okay. Here's a twenty three year old kid kind of starting out his career and looking at a guy like Martinez whose career he probably wants to have that quite cloud with love to be a part of two Stanley Cup winning team. So that's intriguing. Something to watch you know and like you mentioned Adam. He's certainly added something to that lineup. Had been promoted already. Someone's real interesting is the fact that we talk all the time about how business guys move around. They get used to it right like you know. We see some of these guys back and forth. Ahl but more so you see guys changing locker rooms we talk about. Sue bans gone. And he's got to figure out how to go live somewhere else. And Cody eakin going back to his hometown. And that SORTA Albertina has never changed teams. Like he's better than that organization for his entire career and now he was talking about that. He's I've never. I've never done this like I've never gone through kind of learning a new locker room and a new place. That's new to me so I thought that was pretty interesting from his standpoint of we talk about this all the time all the movement that guy's having as professional athletes not him. It's a totally new experience for him. Certainly navigated it well so far and the fact that you know. He's here not just for the season but also next season super interesting. And we'll kind of finish talking about Nick Holden's extension kind of in conjuncture with Martinez because the nights now have five defensemen under contract already for next season's. Equa cloud is a restricted free agent. With a lot of restrictions. Actually so he does need a new contract to come back and then John Maryland. Derek England are unrestricted free agents. And so Dave will ask you this because you know holding also said to be a UFA and the nights locked him up and then Merrill and England are UFA's F- as still was essentially the night saying we want Nick Holden as you mentioned earlier to be that seventh eighth guy and that worked you know comfortable kind of getting that business out of the way now and it really looks like Marilyn England might be walking out the door yeah. That's probably an element of it right. I mean they've just got they got all these guys who think h o Scholz coggin right now. You know Who also Bischoff? So they've got all these guys I mean at some point you have to. You know you have to open up spots and let people move up. Give him an opportunity. If that's kind of how it is and I don't know if they're moving on from John Merrill it certainly would appear that they're going to kind of you know let him get to market and maybe move on we'll see I mean again. I don't know it just be you know if I'm going to put myself in John Meryl's skates or something for a second. I'M GOING TO PROJECT IN. Look at where things aren't and say you know. Maybe I am only seventh defenceman or an eighth defense. Maybe I'm fighting for a roster spot or something like that with the nights maybe I would like to go somewhere else. You know if he maybe he gets offered three years or something like that. Maybe somebody sees him as a fifth. A fifth or sixth defenceman. Excuse me I mean those are all the business decisions that that kind of come with us. That's why you guys have agents and things like that I mean you brought it up like I mean all right. I'll throw it out there. Have we seen Derek England in a Golden Knights uniform for the last time? Like he's. He's the eighth defencemen in Anaheim seeming. John Merrill took warm-ups John. Merrill is a seven defensemen. Took warm-ups Durkin was up in the press box with us. You know which tells me that right. Now he's the eighth defenseman. He's you know behind John. Mero in the pecking order depending on what happens. Maybe if Zach White cloud were to get banged up and they specifically said we want a right shot. They're you know they would look at Turkey island but right now. I don't know if Derek England gets another game unless they have something clinched at the end of the year and they can put him in a game. That's maybe not a meaningful game. I guess you could say or. Maybe they get em like the home finale or something like that before that last road trip. I don't know but right now I mean it clearly. Seems like they're not going to resign him in all signs point to right now him. Not being able to to crack the lineup. Yeah Dirk England's future is certainly up in the air but I think one thing we can all agree on. Is that the present for the Golden Knights. I mean looks really promising because of the moves. They made Monday and in the preceding days. I mean we talked about. This team was pretty much on a roll even before the trade deadline. Now I think it's pretty clear to say they've significantly upgraded backup goaltender on the roster right now as to who the backup goaltender technically is that might remain an open question the rest of the season. But it's certainly fun to talk about all these moves because it was a fascinating trade the trade deadline for the gold nights and they made what has been a very good team. The last couple of weeks potentially even better. Well that's GonNa wrap up this edition of the Golden Edge. Podcast a reminder if you want more on all these trades at the Golden Knights made check out our coverage at review journal Dot Com. Dave and Adam had some great stories. Ed Granny had a great column kind of talking about Robin Leonard Story. And all the things that he's been through the past couple of years to make sure to like subscribe. Whatever you do with podcast to us. I tuned Stitcher spotify X. CETERA. 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#3 - Coronavirus Misinformation & Government Secrets
"Hello and welcome to the useless wisdom podcast, unfortunately, because of all of this quarantine and lockdown shit. That's going on right now. can't have any of the CO host. The normally see so. We don't have brandon. We don't have Jacob, but luckily we do have my lovely girlfriend Jamie hello. All right well, she's probably going to be very quiet Should I used to these things, but. I figured is only fitting to Jayme with more information on the corona virus. Though you've seen something about it every single day for the past four weeks, so I decided why not just continue? Jamming you pool of information so. I up. This is something I thought when I first heard about the coronavirus and I I saw the pictures now. If you're listening to this you know you're probably not gonna be able to see it, but if you are watching this on Youtube I still haven't decided whether I would. Be Willing To. Show some of these pictures that I found of their I dunno delicate dishes that they that they have over there where you got like bats in the in the soup, and the the dogs like in the small cages, like six of them in a small Kennel I don't know if I can even show those because I want to keep this channel and in the best standing that I can even though I cost way too much So you might see those and you might not but I'm sure you can just look them up. I saw them on instagram. I think that at save the reef. is where I found it at so if you WANNA look them up on Instagram at save the reef. They have been posting a lot of stuff about the corona virus I think they're like an animal's rights, animal, right group or something like that, but. It doesn't really matter anyway the first. Thing I want to cover here is. Again, something that I've been about since the coronavirus was the thing and. You know I always thought that it was a joke you know. You hear people say oh. The animal shelter gives their animals to the Chinese restaurant, so they don't have to pay to get them euthanized her. On the stray dog, just running out from the Chinese restaurant, just like you know random stereotypical jokes like that. I always thought that it was a joke But. You know I always wondered where that joke originated ad. And, after all of this stuff going on, and I know that they really don't know where it came from, but their best guess is like that fish, market or that black-market fish market, or whatever is their best guess. But I mean like. Do you think that it may have came from eating cats and dogs and all this other? Random stuff they've been eaten is exotic animals I mean. I don't know about cats and dogs, but we think it's finding cats and dogs out well personally. No, but. They do it. I was also wondering in the same will house here. You know. Is it weird that they are eating those type of like exotic Peacocks. I really wish that I would have got a picture of the chart, but in this black market fish market areas. They have peacocks and bats, and they have. snakes. Even though I heard that snake meat is not really chewy and people. Eat that over here so. I. Don't know, but we eat we over here to. It we do, but we don't eat like. You know bats and cats and dogs. We keep cats and dogs as pets. There's a restaurant down the road that serves alligator every couple of months. Where who is smoking jags? Yes. Is that weird. I think it's weird. I! Okay I always wondered if eating that stuff is weird, or if it's just a cultural thing because. You know some. Would you say nationalities eat? Or praised goats, and they love goats, and you're not allowed goop meat. You know what I'm talking about. It's like. Mohammed or whatever? I'm not sure what Jesus he searcy your added of his Mohammed Evil. I. Honestly don't know who does that I didn't. Any research into this in particular well Muslims. Don't eat pork and then. Like Hindu people don't eat cows. So that is a cultural thing or a religion thing, right, yeah! So. Is it a cultural thing or a religion? Thing that? I mean already have the answer to this, but I'm just trying to get your thing. I'm your opinion. I think it's a cultural thing that makes it weird because you know we. Is it a cultural thing that makes it okay is what I'm saying I mean I guess that that the Chinese people eat cats and dogs and Batson all that stuff. I mean I. Guess Okay Well. After looking into it Kinda, thinking it was you know screwed up. I did find out that a lot of the stuff that they're eating there i. don't I actually I don't think I can say a lot some of the stuff that they're eating over there you need to take into account that they have one point four billion people okay. This is the best answer that I could find, but you know one point. Four billion people there obviously cramped. you also have to think about how all those people getting fed. We're pretty spread out here and we do still have a lot of land, and we import a lot of food we. you know like we get our milk and stuff because we got the cow farms. They are extremely cramped and their little Chinese. Country I guess it's not really little, but and he get where I'm going with this So the best explanation that I seen was. I think that it's okay because they're so cramped there. People need to be getting food somehow. But. With that even being the best answer that I could find. Also. Why do they not just continue like for the cats and dogs that could kind of make sense because they don't take up a lot of space, and they could just keep on breeding them, and then eating them and breeding them, and then eating them and it. Doesn't you know you ever? That's what we do with like. Art, meets the. So, why catalogs make sense you? You're not getting much from bats. Yeah, but let's not get much meat. You'RE NOT GONNA get much meat from. What is it, peacocks? They're going to take a lot of upkeep to keep alive. You know what I mean I guess. But then you can look at it like they could be doing the same thing for chicken. Will they keep using the discus or is it? I don't know I. Mean I think that they could be doing the same things that. We've done. Like our spread out and stuff we have high density areas, and we still have a lot of people that are going hungry, but you know. We have. Places that Breeden raise. Livestock for food purposes and ninety dollars him. They can't do the same thing. And again this is all speculation that we're talking about because one, we couldn't find any. You know definitive answers, but also we don't live over there, so we don't know how they live. Right but I have seen pictures and I'm sure that you can find them easily on Google so i. don't have to leave a bunch of links in this description, but. I've seen pictures of their walmarts and stuff ever there or their. however you pronounce it over there They have. Just open meet laying there like it's not packaged or plastic. Wrap or anything, but they have like. Chickens with their head cut off. On the table right there, you just pick it up. And by there's places that are on here, too. I've never seen that. You've never seen it, but we also have one major grocery store in this entire county so. But other places is pretty common and I mean they I mean even. Like Walmart they have the. It's not like outside, but they have like meet. That's not package. That's just like laying in the display case. and. Cheese and stuff like that, but there's meets to. It just depends on what store you. Like Kroger's. Has that but I'm talking about on a table like this? You're talking about we got. Just out for you to just grab it and pick it not like behind the counter for the Deli Person To. Also, like just something happens over there. I could see it. and. I I'm not really sticking with what all I have written down here, but Thinking about. Them not. Having enough food or whatever there? That's really the case I really started looking into this and. From some of the stuff that I've read. Explaining the exotic animals and stuff they're reading over there. I've seen one place. Say the Chinese traditional medicine industry, which heavily relies on ancient belief in the healing power of animals is a massive driver of the the trade of the exotic animals over there and I actually have a written down here that I saw that from Nat. Geo Wild. So, Roy just hasn't that Geo but I'm guessing that's what it is. I have written down here With that granted a lot of the animals that they're poaching, eating and trading, it is illegal over there for them to do that. I. Read this long post that I had to take into Google translate to be able to read because it was in Chinese letters. But. It says that. There's like one hundred fifty three animals or something that are just completely banned from eating over there including bats and stuff like that, so if it did originate from bats. That was illegal for them to do that to begin with, so they did have something in place is not entirely just because. You know they WANNA. Feel like it's a delicacy. Why think that the laws being in place? Make it like even more of a delicacy because it's harder to get I suppose. So? Sure there's a lot more people that are out there. Eating those kinds of meats just because it was against the law. I'm sure sure that there was. I saw a blog post when I was researching this, that was getting very upset. People posting like racist like Chinese, racist memes or whatever That weren't really racist because I looked at a couple of them. One of the things that it brought up that they were upset about was. A mean that that was captioned. Everything with four legs save the table and everything that flies, but the airplane. K.. meaning that they eat everything, four legs other than the table and. This was a Chinese translation, okay? If. You're curious on why that sounded weird because I just realized that did sound. I didn't understand. I had to translate from Chinese because a lot of stuff I was reading was in Chinese. Everything with four legs, but the table. Everything, that flies. But the airplane having some more sense. It has really odd. Is Weird that they eat all that stuff. No I don't want to go into the conspiracy right now, but I think that we should do the corona misinformation. Okay, because a lot of people think these weird things will either prevent them from getting it or Cure them cure them, yeah. already talked to you about this a little bit. Told you a couple of but. All of these I have found on like who dot I n, T or Medical News today. Or the another one that I can't remember whether then D. I, don't think it was web. MD Jamia some. Whatever One of the things was. Only older people get it and die from it. Younger people get it, but they recover. So what they had to say was people of all ages can be affected by the new corona virus, older people and people with preexisting medical conditions such as asthma diabetes heart disease appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely with the virus. All Age groups can become infected most cases so far though have been in adults, but children are not immune. In fact, preliminary evidence shows that children are just as likely to become infected, but their symptoms tend to be less severe so saying you know. Only order people get it in die from it. Not Entirely. Disproven here. But. But there are cases you can get it. Okay. and you might have a pre existing health condition. The you don't even know about. So. You can't really say that. that one I actually found on CDC dot Gov I, believe Have something I have statistics here that I'm going to leave in the description 'cause I do have it written here to leave this in description, so you can actually see the statistics like eighty two percent of. Elderly people that got it died or something like that I know that it was some crazy number. That is probably skewed because of. like most Chinese people. Chinese men smoke above the age of seventy or something like that, so all the districts will be left below in its own CDC, so you know that they are not giving misinformation. Cold weather and snow kills the coronavirus. This is. You know. I don't think that there was very much logic behind this because from. Reading it is a strain, not really a strain, but similar to the flu, so you wouldn't think that day. You mostly get the flu when it's cold out. So. I. Don't know where this really comes from, but. Apparently that's the part of the misinformation and their response is. There is no reason to believe they cold weather can kill the new corona virus or other diseases. The normal human body per temperature remains around thirty six degrees. Celsius to thirty seven degrees Celsius. Regardless of the external temperature or weather, so it can stay alive in your body. And according to the Corona virus can be transmitted in. Areas of the globe including hot climates, it won't go away in the northern hemisphere as the weather gets warmer in the spring and summer, experts say we do not know yet. If covid nineteen is a seasonal virus like influenza meaning, it loses ability to infect cells as the temperature rises. So that kind of Goes into whether warm weather would affect the coronavirus or make it go away since we are getting close here to summer finally. He all right. The next one we have is very hot showers or Saunas can kill or prevent the corona virus. You think Guzman's. Accurate now I, don't. Taking a hot bath will not prevent you from. Like Taking a hot bath will not prevent you from catching covid nineteen. Your normal body temperature remains around thirty six to thirty seven degrees Celsius regardless of the temperature of your bath or shower or sauna. Also on it will not. Help prevent you from getting it. Gay. Got It. This is one that I thought was like I thought this was retarded when I. First saw it okay. Have you seen those? It's advertised on Amazon, but you also see it on instagram and stuff, but it is a UV light that you at night. You put your phone in this case and then. Close it. Clean it and kill the germs and stuff. Yeah, okay, so that will not disinfect your phone. Okay. Also, it will not disinfect your body, so are people doing that? They had to say this they. It will not sterilize your hands or phones and kill the corona virus. That was something that was actually on who? Maybe CDC. It was one or the other. It will not work and I knew that it wouldn't work. When I first saw as I never bought the thing, I thought that was the stupidest thing ever unlike. I mean what what are they thinking with that? Honestly I. I don't know I. It just amazes me at how far people will go to try to find a bullshit cure. When I was reading Medical News today, I think. One of the things was. Since, it got recommended. Amazon people believe that it's definitely true because they can change their titles descriptions to say whatever the heck they want. Yeah so. Protect yourself against the corona virus by disinfecting your phone. frigging stabiner making money though that was the goal I guess it was the goal, but. So. The. Who says? UV lamps should not be used to sterilize hands or other areas of the skin as UV, radiation can cause skin irritation. So. We went over that. Thought that I had a lot more but I guess we can just go ahead and jump into this. This is going to be a short episode. Because, I didn't really have a lot of time to prepare. A most of the research I was doing just on some misinformation that I saw that I thought was a little ridiculous so. but we already got that out of the way, so let's go back in to. The opinionated section of this which? Everybody likes about the podcast hopefully. So. I want you to imagine. This is this is also about the coronavirus, but this is more opinion based okay. I want you to. I imagine that. You know. Aliens Are Real Okay. Gay and the government. Are I. think that I'm saying this wrong. Actually. Government News at the the government knows that aliens real again. This is speculative. Again trying to to make any assumptions here, even though aliens are real. The government knows that aliens a real. This is what you're thinking. Okay? Government knows that real. Is it better to keep the public in the dark to prevent panic. or Be Open and transparent with the public, because from my perspective, I think that. Keeping them in the dark will continue to fuel like. Excuse me conspiracies and documentaries, and all that stuff to keep the public more like mcadoo aliens really remember when that Bob Lazar thing happened is everywhere yet. It didn't cause any panic. People weren't like. Looting and doing all that you're gonna read. Okay tater the new ones. You know that they couldn't have gone anywhere. They didn't get anywhere. The only thing that happened out of that is the narrow toe runner behind the newscaster. He was just a big me now, is it? People take the suffering way, too. Seriously I think older people I. Don't understand the MEMES and they take way too seriously. They take okay. boomer means pretty far though and they take that seriously. Anyway on the other hand, though if they are transparent with the public, some might take it and like freak out and go stock up on toilet paper, but. I think the majority of people be like Oh cool. But then just continue with their normal day and. Yes he that's the crazy speculation people. Probably. Die! Down, like! The crazy hair guy from ancient aliens. You know what I mean, okay, but I think that it would be best if we were kept in the dark about it. Because you see what's happening now? Nobody took it seriously when it was not happening in the United States like the virus, and as soon as I here, and there were confirmed cases and the government sort of paying attention to it, and you know issuing. Warnings and stuff like that. People started panicking and then you know. chain-reaction. There's nothing of value in stores you got to eat. Shitty karn cardboard bran flakes now. fucking sucks. You the you know you're limited to. They finally limited the amount of things that you can buy, but it's been a little too late trouble for bond too much milk. You guys are curious. Yeah well. I just think that it's best. We'd be left in the dark, because then nobody has anything to panic about I mean because. You know you have the conspiracy theorists and stuff right now. But what are they doing? They're entertaining us and that's it. They're not doing any harm. But you know when people start panicking you end up, not being able to wipe your ass and having to take showers you WanNa Shit, yeah, and you know not being able to get things to clean your house for non virus purposes. You gotta live in filth and you can't. You. Don't have food for your children or anything like that in like the elderly people are going without supplies now, because every able bodied person you, that is afraid of getting. It is gone out in stocked up for the next thirty years in. They haven't even gotten a chance to go and get things. Those people on Doomsday peppers or preparing for a you know another black plague. There Larry Happy Right narrowly. Happy So, you think that keeping them in the dark the the best thing. You know I think that it's definitely something that they would have to talk about It's definitely a conversation to be had because I can see both sides of it well. I mean yeah, but you gotta think about. How people react to things, it's not rationally most of the time especially when it's something. It's about something that we don't know much about. Because people were scared of going to other countries. Just because they don't know what it's like there in. It's different. That's why there's parents like your parents. That we were going to Germany, yeah I. Didn't like the whole shit with your mom saying that we would be thrown in jail for doing something that we thought was okay. Here was not okay there. There's no basis of that, but she was so making that assumption because she doesn't know about it, and that's what people tend to do. They just assume the worst still like if the government says something about. Aliens people are going to be like. Oh No, they're coming here to kill US and they're gonNA. Start panicking. Yup. I think that. You know that's a definitely a conversation to be had But you, you said something before that I thought was interesting and. You said something that made me think about something else. Okay, first off the conversation we just had. It doesn't have to be just aliens. That's just the easiest thing to visualize I'm talking about the corona virus. In particular. There's definitely misinformation out there. Okay. There's a lot of misinformation out there. But the that was mostly for like Not necessarily the US but Chinese government, keeping it under wraps at the beginning of it. This was written while ago. even though some of the research was recent. anyway what else I wanted to talk about We don't really have a lot more time. As, I said. We're going to keep this short. But. You say. Like a lot of people were freaking out and stuff. Like, the older people were freaking out and stuff. Apparently. We Are A. Generation that. Is Very laid back and doesn't care much about anything. Okay, so let's say. Like boomers or you know whatever you WANNA call like the older people. Let's say. Forty five up. Once, they have passed. Or expired. Do. You think that this is going to be the same concerns like the same? Stuff's going to happen because. I mean probably. 'cause we were looking at stuff right now. It's like we're invincible. When we're not, and I mean we get a lot of our. Personality from the things that were exposed to now. I mean we're constantly exposed to bad things like shootings in viruses, and all that and we're just kinda like. Okay. But I think that. The older generation is going to. subliminally pass things onto us, and as we get older, and we start having families, not us. Don't get that in your mind. How to don't want this morning. when Pibor in our generation start having kids and stuff. They're gonNA realized that. Despite. The stupid stupid things that they're doing right now. Panicking why is that? It's. Most, likely a good place I. I hate them for it, but you know it's probably them trying to protect their families and stuff. And I think that we're going to pick that up because you know. Parents mostly care more about themselves, not themselves their children than they do themselves. And I definitely think that some of us will pick that up, but you and I we won't. Okay! I don't I think that that could go into a bigger topic with. The older generation. Passing away and the younger generation coming up. And the younger generations coming up. I'm still curious. I. Really, get into this. We actually just ran out of time on the camera. I guess this is going to mark the end of the podcast then. Thanks Jamie. Being on here I. Know that you are only a couple of feet away. But. Appreciate you being on the day. We covered a lot of good stuff. Yeah. I don't know what else much to say other than. 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