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Ep 75 Phoenix Police Department Saves Man Hours with ISO 9001

#QualityMatters

27:51 min | 2 months ago

Ep 75 Phoenix Police Department Saves Man Hours with ISO 9001

"Hey, everyone thanks for tuning back into listen to us on quality matters I'm Darcy. I'm kyle and we have another article from a s Q This one is appropriate for the time. Yes. The current events although the article was written in two thousand four. So it's not current. Events tells you where we're going. So it's about a police department phoenix. Police. Department who their records and Information Bureau the R I B of the Phoenix Police Department. Went after their ISO nine thousand one certification. Cool. So I liken it to current events because now more than ever as important for police organizations to show their quality and their worth. Well. So how how's IT GONNA apply what? What would be some things I could improve in today's global economy quality matters. Benjamin Franklin once. The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. Quality matters is here to talk about all things quality. So whether you're looking to improve your business getting ready for an audit or dealing with failed inspections to. Check us out then give back to doing work that matters. Will you will see what you can improve if you have a quality system if you have your nonconformist and. Those lead to corrective actions. I'm kind of I'm pulling it strings. That's been a while since I've had to use these right. Well I mean every organization is non-conformities. Every department has for nonconformity a little different depending on what the product or service she sell is and and here it's a very different product you know and you've got very different customers and stakeholders normal. But these are all very critical pieces of any organization and I am excited because the authors of this article were involved and achieving that Eyeso- certification for the Phoenix Police Department and one of the Authors David Amari I reached out to on Lincoln said Hey we're doing this article on our podcasts and he has agreed to come on another episode and taught a little more in depth with Monrovia follow up there will be up. and. He also mentioned that Houston where we are is still currently I. so certified I think he said there was twelve departments but they just re upped. It's really cool. So I was really cool. That makes me. Proud. So getting back to Phoenix. At the time this article was written, it was the six largest city in the country. So obviously, they have a lot of information that the records and Information Identification Bureau trying to make sure I say it right was in charge of I, didn't know it what's up? At an either. Well. It may not be any more I don't know. it says that their criminal records unit alone can receive as many as eleven thousand telephone requests a month whoa yeah. Wow Yes. So they need you know they had a growing list of responsibilities and they've got some of them listed maintaining records related relating to incidents, arrests, bookings, impounds, repossessions, forensic imaging fingerprinting photographing says, specs teaching officers to use the records in management, computer system, training personnel, and both INC, and electronic fingerprinting. performing criminal history background checks, providing fingerprinting services for citizens who need fingerprints like I had to do that. Before I started teaching I had to go get my fingerprints done so. You know they've got a lot. With and this is just one. Department. Of. The Phoenix Police Department one section. Imagine eleven thousand requests in any one of those gone wrong be an issue and that's just the criminal records unit him. The whole Stinky apartment. I'm guessing that's just a small part of the records and Identification Bureau. So you talked a little bit about their customers so they have. And External customers, but they talk about how that those same people could flip yeah and be a supplier or customer internal or external because you know they deal with attorneys and courts and police, officers and agencies and reporters, and the public and the criminal. Alleged criminals though you know it's a lot going on and they talked maybe not in this section you know their mistake cost is a matter of life and death right? So they they can't make mistakes not just a matter of. Product for rework, you don't really get to do rework here. Well, I mean you do but you know what I mean by time so I should have prefaced this with were probably going to go longer than twenty minutes. So if you're already in it I, hope you stick with it. This is one of the articles I just kind of highlighted everything because I thought valuable information So they started their pursuit for the registration in two thousand. And they wanted to go to a knowledge base organization. And this is where it says because the information that they disseminate is potentially damaging news be important accurate. Well. I'm just the Computer Geek Amis. Ten of freaking out imagining all the security controls and rights, controls and access and. and. They said if our process allowed a mistake, we had to have a way to fix it. Yes. So they began to improve the quality of their processes. they did a lot of research. They figured the Ice Oh nine, thousand one was probably the best. Route to go. Because it focused on improving the processes, which is what they wanted to end to establish guidelines and goals. That they could measure again. We've talked about that a lot. The let me cut in here. He's people talk here is so nine, thousand, one in the first thing that show many people think of is Oh that means most rules I have to follow. You'RE GONNA. Tell me how to do my job and that's what I thought too but now helping. That putting your rules down on paper and following your rules, and then beyond that, it is a dry continued improvement. You cannot pass an eye. So audit if you do not show some evidence of continual improvement during that audit cycle, if you stayed static continual improvement is eight requirement. Well, that's good because I mean, that's something we talk about a lot on here. There's always room for improvement. You'll matter how good you are. There's always room for improvement. So they found a consultant nearby to help them. And they. Prepared for registration, but also helped achieve some other objectives and they've got some listed such as improved departmental credibility increase responsiveness reduce mistakes, ease the backlog, streamline business processes you know on and on those kinds of. Of Goals. Yes although this is listed like this is what we did with kind of thing. So, they started in two thousand thinking we need to do something. But they didn't start preparing for registration until two thousand and two. Yeah. So you know I think for most companies. It's kind of a long process. You don't really know what you're getting into especially something like a police department. Mini. Fashioning fabrication or something like that I think they're probably a little familiar with ISO nine one whereas a police department is like Whoa. What are you doing to? Yeah It's not quite quite a widget their you know a widget. Yeah. widget little something you build maintain case just keep on going. Okay. Let's see what did they start doing? They identified key processes and developed a process map who like veteran Those. And that provided a complete picture of how they. And their workflow processes it is just an absolute first step. I will never began consultation project document development or software deployment. None of that will begin without process mapping. Well and our last episode we recorded talk about the fishbone diagrams. So it's Mapping the oath to be happening. So they had some training sessions they identified Best Practices introduced efficiencies into the system. The maps held highlight opportunities for improvement. There's that phrase again. And the records and Identification Bureau identified four hundred and forty areas for improvement were. Which? Again I see like the non-conformities are non what is that the right word? You know that's exciting. It is like, wow, we've found all these things that we can fix and do our job better. Efficient yeah. So one hundred and fifty. Four of those were address was simple improvements prior to registration. So that's thirty five percent of them. So it's right Some of them were as simple as computerizing a form. I've never heard of such thing before. Never. One thing I mean, it's not like. All stop there. Okay. So they talked about the combination of the mapping process where am combined with the entire departments commitments along with a preliminary audit led to smooth final audit where they only found. One of discrepancy would That's awesome. That is really awesome. They have. The first page of their nine-page process map on vertical. So take a look at that I. Think when we try to link these Asu articles that may not always come through because I think you have to have a valid log in. The article so maybe you can go through induced some little snippets of pieces that are worthy of sharing maybe so So at the time of the audit, they were in process of collecting customer satisfaction data in the audit found their inputs to management review. Insufficient. That actually regarding customer satisfaction at actually. Pretty. Pretty Common folks. So often have problems with management review. It is just a difficult piece of the standard and you have to take. Everything in. into account and. Here. I can't even imagine how you would track your customer complaints and. My Gosh show while they were trying to figure that out is when I they had the audit and what they had was not good enough. Yeah. So and I know you're GONNA love this. It says the biggest improvements stemmed from the introduction of the graphics based electronic process maps because everyone had access to him, they call them living documents. So living means they're being used there being changed their you know there's constant update process is not something that's static but let me. Add, this little disclaimer is you still have to have a formal re approval process there. Yeah. You can't just go willy nilly change stuff but yes they just kind of have some fun with it. They have a fun names on here for the processes once called Pinky one's called Canary. Just interesting I wonder if that's because it has to be codenames. Police Department I don't know of the dig into it more from the learn more with others. Pinky internal. Requests Form for the PD. Oh I bet because they have you know when you have those multiple layers of forms that copying. Pink one is for that very is internal requests for him. So it is the color of okay. Comes from. And I love this employees were encouraged to suggest possible changes which added to the value of the maps and no system will be successful without leaders understand it's okay for your employees to suggest changes. Well, we talk when we had Matt Sands on that was what we talked about. I think actually put his quote there on the very front of the podcast graphic and the justice that You'll never have his desk project unless you can get your folks involved in. You can make it just kind of normal part of your day job. Yeah, it has to me So I. Have a lot of things highlighted the improved I'm going to go back to where they computerized one form. This is kind of funny they had been manually typing information into their six part cash receipts form. Rather than using the computerized version of the form. So that sounds like there was a computerized version available images weren't using it. They weren't using it. They found they were the only organization in the city still using the old form. the savings were in both the cost of the forms and the extra time required to use a typewriter. Oh that's fun. So they were filling it in with a typewriter in two thousand four. That's awesome. the criminal records unit reduce the average time it takes to processor quest by approximately twenty seconds doesn't sound a lot more coming up to sixty hours of time save per officer each month. Wow well. You can do the better the math stuff here than I am but anytime we we take a form and we digitize it any digitized form you are guaranteed guaranteed in my experience I've never seen less than a thirty percent time savings. So whatever it is you're doing manually if we can properly digitize that, you're going to get at least thirty percent time saving. So I don't know that this was digitized. It was just a this is something separate still feeling it in on the computer versus handwriting transcribed a move and copy so it just says to process a request. The criminal record. Yeah. So I guess the officers had to process sort of requests and they reduce that time only twenty seconds. But that saves your offer sixty hours like I know a lot of officers half stay after their shifts and fill up all the paperwork on everything that happened on shift while and they're probably working easy fifty hour weeks. So that's what two hundred hours in the month. So sixty that's. About, right? Yeah. So that about rice. their process maps showed a number of safety issues related to the booking process. So when they bring an alleged criminal in there were some safety things. They added a wall separate prisoners and officers. And they installed benches for the prisoners and a work counter for the officers. Well now, let's just take backwards. Let's just imagine that all of your officers now have fifty sixty hours a month free. To do their job and to improve and innovate and to think in the care care more about the people. I, mean my gosh that no wonder they were able to come up with ideas of ways to improve things for everyone involved. They had more time to do it I mean it's just mind boggling that what people can come up with when you give them more time to innovate well, and I don't know that the officers came up. This was the crisis. Did I'm just saying, yeah, I mean officer more time they can find better ways to do their. logging incident reports they found several steps that could be combined or eliminated, which gave a time-saving of five minutes poor per report. which translated to seventy five minutes per day per person. Wow. Which helped ease a backlog guy had so again, seventy five minutes per day per person. How many is that in a month I don't huge. Huge. they made some changes to their budgeting procedures. They used to you could only put stuff in like every three months so they decided to maintain it year round so that way things didn't get left out of the budget or forgotten about. So they had a more accurate budget. in improved cross shift communications standardization, of course, greater efficiency, and job satisfaction and. everyone was. To approve changes, there was working at buy in and a willingness to follow the process. Yeah I mean. Let's just at the most basic level look at it like you. We've all gotten stopped for a traffic ticket before. Not. ME. Right. And sometimes the guys happy and cheerful and it's like, yeah now speeding I'm sorry. Get now move on lives. Good. Others you can tell the ain't had that good of a day and it's not a fun not a fun experience. And just the basics like I want to dig too deep and all the mess that's going on in the world today. But my gosh if we could free up this kind of time for officers across the nation and we could make their job this much easier. I bet they do a heck of a lot better job in these difficult situations. I mean Lord knows I couldn't do their job. I'm thinking if they had sixty hours a month free than we could provide continued training. Yeah and you could probably put more officers out there because there be more. Time to pay officers. Yeah. I mean. My Gosh, forget about all the you know funding that does or doesn't go to police officers if you could just save thirty percent of your cost and get these guys out there doing their job more frequently happier better trained my gosh this is a huge opportunity. Yeah. So if you do this for your own department, you don't have to like you can. Miss you. Department. For more funding. Yeah. Can't say you know what? I'm a take some funding from this area. Yeah and pay for this wally management system and certification, and then I'm GonNa create more money for myself. Yes. Just. We talked about this same type stuff with the mayock link episode we did a while back. It just blows my mind these. Huge issues we face in our country. I mean, we have a lot of big issues facing today healthcare costs are a huge deal Lord knows that's on every political. Campaign that's out there that nothing seems to change. But. We identified that there are real world solutions and now that the police the funding for the polices all over the place but. It looks like there's some real legitimate ways. Every single precinct in this country could make some improvements to have police officers better trained more time to do their job, fewer errors, fewer problems, and happier officers. That sounds like a solution. I. Agree. I totally agree and that's why I was happy when I connected with a gentleman on linked in and he talked about Houston and how they have re upped and yeah. Well I'll leave that alone so. I'm happy about that. There's one last quote from the article I WanNa read. And they say teams are making decisions rather than receiving management edicts which gets far more buying from everyone. No crap. So I I mean I don't know how many times we've talked about that on here. If the management is supportive when I come suggested changing. Then I'm more likely to accept other changes that somebody else suggested. I mean. Yes leadership starts at the top. Guess what? It's bottom up method though you get all of the great ideas you get the buy in. It's not the leader of the company doing the work it's not a liter, the organization doing the work it is all of the people on the ground floor that are doing is oftentimes, I, feel like the leader is somebody either hasn't done your job for a very long time has forgotten what it's like. Or never did your job and that's the worst came from somewhere else. You know I got a business management degree so I can manage all of you. So you know I feel like the managers in the leaders are disconnected oftentimes ar from you in your position. And a properly implemented management system. Helps alleviate that. helps alleviate it. Just. I can't. You know I keep emphasizing because we read all these case studies and it's all sunshine and rainbows and look how great they did. I don't even think Phoenix Police Department still has or their records and advocate I. Don't know that they still even have this which is disheartening. Yup that they went and got it and see, and this is not but again, it's so many other that we read. But it's not going to be sunshine and rainbows if your management isn't doing it right and therefore getting the culture change and the Union. Yeah. So No, it felt we didn't go very much longer after twenty minutes. No no, but I, you know I gotta say there's not a chance. I could do the job that any of these men and women out there do but I can definitely, we can help make it better. Yeah. See. So many ways this could be made better and that impacts every truly everyone the impacts everyone. So we don't ever try to sell on here but I gotTa say if you are a police chief or in charge of any department in a police department. I mean, I, got a guy like. This. Again is just I can't stop I just gotTa stop myself because just it's mind boggling how so many of these massive issues that face the nation that are argued and debated and Infinitely. There are good common sense solutions take time. Like this was four years to get there they take time and invest time investment and monetary investment but when it's done. The. Return is huge. I. Think the reason it doesn't work for organizations like this I know we tried to wrap it up but now we're going to keep going. But we've done a couple of case is like with school districts. Yeah. What happens is those have a higher turnover rate I feel like leadership so versus like a manufacturing company because. Joe Started this manufacturing company and he's not leaving behind. He's GonNa stick with it So it's like well, we're not going to do what Bob Dead, yeah I'm the new leader and that's old news. We're GONNA do this and they don't see the value because they're so. Tunnel Vision on what they think is the best I'm not to say that they don't have something with noted, but recognize the somebody is Eyeso- certified. That's good. Keep that. The I'm reading a book right now by Jim Collins called a by choice really really good book so far. So big thing that he talks about there is when organizations are going through these really difficult trying times what separates the truly great companies from everyone else. And this is one of the things that he's identified us in in the book is at the truly great organizations they stick to a plan for long. So if they have a plan or recipe that works, it lasts minimum twenty years that doesn't mean they don't change things within the organization but their overarching plan and raise the picture. Yes. Does not change in remains intact from minimum of twenty years. So doesn't the standard require you to have a management representative? Quite. Anymore. They did in the two thousand eight edition but you do have to have someone leading the charge. So that's what I'm thinking these organizations that have a higher that aren't necessarily family owned or whatever the case may be. you know if you're introducing ISO nine, thousand, one hire somebody. The quality manager yes and then that way if you as the chief leave or the superintendent at School district or the principal of the school or whatever it is leave then you've got a quality management representative on hand. So when the nuclear comes in I, guess a hey, it's really good. I'm in charge of it. You don't have to worry about we're going to keep it going. Yeah. No I agree I agree the. Standard needs to go back to that and they would have more success with it. I don't know I I think. I think you Kinda hit the nail on the head. A few minutes goes someone new comes in and they have a lot of good great ideas and they want to lead the charge but. That's not. The best every five years no note, and that's again where he talks about in this the the great by choice book is. Too much change is devastating. It is absolutely devastating talks about well. They'll scoff at a whole different direction I guess maybe we can do that for another point. But how like southwest stuck with the same recipe for forty years without changing anything. And I think it's fine that he mentioned southwest because that was also an start with why wasn't he and wasn't the also in saying everything. So I mean. There's something to it. All right. Thanks for listening guys. Hey guys this darcy with quality matters. We really appreciate you listening and if you enjoy it, we invite you to subscribe. You can find us on Itunes spotify anywhere you listen to your podcast subscribe comment leave us a review. We're happy to hear from you.

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EVIT Criminal Justice Instructor Derrell Branch & student Sheyla Vazquez | #GoodMorningEVIT

Good morning, EVIT!

05:12 min | 4 d ago

EVIT Criminal Justice Instructor Derrell Branch & student Sheyla Vazquez | #GoodMorningEVIT

"Good morning. Yvette. I'm bringing Marshall a host of good morning Yvette. And this is a new podcast. His purpose is to help Yvette staff and families stay connected today Darryl Branch one of our second year criminal justice instructors and his student Che Le Vasquez join us. You'll learn about the criminal justice program and hear how she's using it as a stepping stone to a career in law enforcement. We also discussed the importance of Career and Technical education. Let's start off with getting to know our instructor. Yeah. My name is Daryl Branch. I live in Tempe and my favorite thing to do outside of even is woodworking. I enjoy doing carpentry and Furniture stuff like that. Excellent. Could you tell us a little bit about your background? Yes and became a Phoenix police officer when I was Twenty-One. So just as soon as I could those jobs career, I stumbled into and just fell in love with so I did that for Twenty-One years most of that time. I spent in the homicide unit of the Phoenix Police Department and then 2015 birth. Retired and I started teaching here last year. Would you mind telling us about Shayla sure. So so I met Sheila at the beginning of this school year years of senior a second year in the criminal justice program. Thank you for bringing her on Sheila. Could you tell me about your experience at Edith? Yeah, even I joined last year like, mr. Branch said I just wanted to get like criminal justice classes and even it was like a great opportunity to get those college credits without paying a lot of money for it. And so right now I'm on track to get my associates in me. He's really not aside from being a student in the criminal justice program. She also participates in the Mesa Cadet program with the police department so off your first domestic a dense program, what is that? So the Mesa Police Cadets is built with like fourteen or Twenty and a half year old. It's a transition from high school to log. Forcement we do a lot of Mesa PD like community service. So let's community service look like we did the drug take-back people would drop off they're expired drugs and we would help out directing traffic asking how they are just so they know it's not just law enforcement. It's high schoolers who want to go into law enforcement and just getting that face-to-face with a service member what a wonderful opportunity. So I'm going to switch back to our instructor and how you see this being important in terms of the cadet program and other programs like and I think it's an invaluable because none of the hurdles that are students go through is that they graduate from high school usually around 18 years old and then police departments won't hire them as sworn officers until Twenty-One. There's a little Gap Thursday but a program like this the cadets were experiencing that exposure to the criminal justice system so that she can decide when she's old enough at 21 if that's career. She really wants to go into age. Mr. Branch, I don't want to pay that back to your background being important Career and Technical education is always been something that I'm I think is really really important that I'm passionate about because not only do the students get off an education. They also get real world experience. So that transition between being a law enforcement officer and then now being an instructor I'm able to teach the students from that real-world perspective. And what does it mean to you to have an instructor with this kind of experience. It just makes life and class so much easier when I love how my sister Branch looks at it like he lets us know what he did in the field and it's so much better if that makes sense great. It sounds like it's very important to you for each of you. Is there anybody that you would like to recognize? Oh so many people so when I was fourteen years old, I had a leader at church inspired me a lot and and was kind of a mentor for me. He was a police officer and when I was Twenty-One years-old he was one of the Dead People that I went to a law to ask questions about the career later on in life. He became a very close friend and that sort of Tommy Thompson. So I think he's retired now, I think he's a reserve with the Phoenix Police Department's just he was a lifelong Mentor for me and a lifelong public servant. So great guy. Thank you. That's beautiful. And what about you moving to give a shout out to so I have a mentor his name is Officer working. He is the leader of the cadets. So he really inspires me to go out and be on every single day off if the sidelines is right in here and he inspires need to go above and with that we've reached the end of this episode. I hope you're encouraged to go above and beyond in the rest of your day. And thank you so much for listening. Next time. You'll get to meet Angela Jones our HR generalist who was once a teacher at even hope to see you there to join a show or tell us who you want to hear from email me at Birth. Marshall at Yvette, and until next time be kind stay safe and have a wonderful rest of your week.

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49. The Custodial Abduction of Ava Enlow

Reverie True Crime

30:10 min | 2 months ago

49. The Custodial Abduction of Ava Enlow

"The world is confusing stressful and often frightening place and we each have our own unique coping mechanisms that help us get by. Some people will tell you that when life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade. No, that's terrible. Advice. Just randomly getting fruit is extremely suspicious. Haven't you heard of Snow White. That's actually a really good point. She usually not a great idea to consume anything if you're not totally sure what's If you're the type of person who copes with discomfort by making strange jokes and who enjoys losing yourself in a creepy and sometimes bloody mystery. Please join us for dark comedy podcast studying scarlet. We alternate weekly between true crime in fictional crime, and we even take listener requests for episode topics. So if you have a morbid sense of humor, we'd love to welcome you into our weird quirky and sometimes disturbing world studying scarlet is available on your favorite podcast APP and you can follow us on facebook instagram and twitter. We can't wait to meet you please subscribe today. Welcome to Reverie, true crime. I'm your host page and today I'll be discussing a case about custodial child abduction. Usually. Only think about kidnappers we think about strangers. But a lot of times is not a stranger is their own parents. A lot of cases don't have endings like the one we're going to see today. So let's get right into it. On the of March drink twelve ABC News reported that mother from Arizona was looking for her daughter who was only two years old she had missing since the twenty second of February. Twenty two years old at the time. Athena and low stated that she had taken her daughter Eva to the House of the child's father thirty, one year old Brent Anderson. This was on the eighteenth, of February, twenty twelve. And everything was arranged for thing to get ava on the twenty second. The twenty second came and Britain didn't show up. They know what see or hear from him and a very long time and. As most mothers would she made a call to the Phoenix Police Department and they listed as missing? They referred to the unpleasant incident as a case of custodial of the ocean and they did have an arrest warrant for brant. Had, lost his job not too long before this happened and he was dealing with financial problems. Brent's family as well as his friends weren't able to get in touch with him. Nobody knew what he intended to do to eva or where he could have taken her. Advantage told ABC News quote it was a normal drop off. There were words no nothing just I'll see you on Wednesday ava but. Her on Wednesday. And closed. Brent's own mother said, she didn't know anything stating to ABC News Car I don't know anything. He did not want me to know anything I know she's fine wherever she is with my son and quote. His mother claims she had not talked Branson's Valentine's Day of twenty twelve. Athena and had gone so many years of court battles a four, a custody arrangement was made. Both of them shared custody of Little Eva. Brent's mother went on to say quote he should have never had to go through what he has gone through at has pushed him to the limit where he has to take off and quote. Before all this took place according to grant's mother. He would take his little girl to the park and to look at the animals. Bryntsalov mom did say that should be fun without her mother Athene of being present but she believed Abba was safe wherever she was with her dad. For its mother said quote at thanks she. Eva Is better off not here if you founder and she has to go back to that family is not going to be good and quote. The reason brench mom said, this was because she called CPS on. But there was absolutely no danger to Asia. Melinda was even our national TV claiming Eva had been molested by her stepfather, but she would always dodge any question involving the investigation of those claims because CPS Dick and up a whole investigation and found absolutely nothing. Reportedly, they were only trying to make tina out as a bad mom and making excuses for what Brent did. According, to Brian's mom her son got married on February Eleven Athena andbranch. Mom agreed that the you may just be on our honeymoon took eva with them. This was not new for branch anything to have issues with Abbas visits. The previous October Brent told Athena that he was going to go on a vacation that he and abor would be back a week later. Athena said quote I didn't prove it and he hadn't talked about it until the day before. Rental law enforcement to get her back in quote. This town was a little different. The authorities couldn't get in contact with Brent. aagh. Athena and some of her brands even started a facebook page called help. A home along with a website bring Abra home dot com. The help bring home facebook page had more than twelve hundred likes at that time. I thin- described how she was feeling. She said she was in a haze of bog and it seemed surreal. She didn't WanNa believe that this was happening and she didn't know how to deal with it. A CENA, nicknamed Eva her little monkey. She told ABC News that she adored macaroni and cheese and as such a social butterfly and always joyful. Eva. Even had her own little language. She said two year old AVA resist amazing. At the time that they were looking for Brett, he was driving a two thousand, two dark Blue Chevy Silverado. Describing his high as five PM and weighing two, hundred, thirty, five pounds. They described UVA as a blond hair blue eyed three foot tall forty pound two year-old US three ankle. On the seventh of March twenty as well. The Daily Mail also put out an article about the missing baby. Describing Athena as desperate mom planing for her two year old to return safely. Able. was last seen on February eighteenth were brandt at a starbucks that was right outside of Phoenix. Athena told as the family dot com quote. The most terrifying thing is you're sitting there saying, where is she? You're like this is a dream or this is just a miscommunication Emma on the wrong day. That's what's going through your mind when she doesn't show up five days, later can't sleep you can't eat. and quote. The website also reported on how the police are now calling it a case of custodial adoption and how the police did issue a warrant for Brent's arrest. They were afraid for Eva Safety since France. Had recently gone through troubles financially. He lost his job and his house to foreclosure. A thing I stated that her daughter would often combat from Brent's house with Burns and bruises. His mother Melinda said that wasn't the truth. Breads Mom told Nancy grace quote I have not heard from my son but I do know that he would not do anything to hurt her or harm her and Athena even admitted that to my daughter and coach. Family and friends branch tried to get in touch with him but the attempts were unsuccessful. I am not exactly sure how they were trying to contact him as they also said that he did not own a cell phone. hazing family dot, com reported that Athena an EVA or finally back together after going six weeks without each other. Able was kidnapped by vibrant and taken to Mexico. The Phoenix, authority stated that when Athena and reunited as she held eva she was sobbing. James Holmes of Police Detective said he and other detectives worked so hard to find out where Brent and EVO were. They discovered that he had taken off with her support blown wave Oh Mexico. Grant was immediately taken into custody and thankfully a was Oh. Hey. Brent was charged with kidnapping and take into Maricopa County jail. One of the supervisors from Brench Job said quote he's been at FRY's for sixteen years and loyal totally loyal to his job. Great Father, Greg Guy and quote. Even prince friends attested that he was a good dad and what he did was not like him at all. After Eva was found Nancy Grace announced it and the ex- mother-in-law was on the show. Here's a clip from what happened in that interview. But right now, just in I, want to go straight out on news that a baby we have been looking for Baby Ava enloe age two has been found straight out to Dave mack morning talk show host with W. A. X. Dave. What can you tell me Baby Ava Sand Nancy it's some of the most exciting news that we've been able to tell in a long time about a missing child custody kidnapping happen all the time. But this one as you have covered since the very beginning baby ava went missing after dad did not return her from a scheduled visit. They had no idea where he's GonNa. They knew that he had cleaned out the house cleaned out the bank accounts and they found his truck added bus depot. They had no other clues to go on but Phoenix police working with the S. marshalls and the. Authorities tracked down baby ava to the small town of Pueblo delay about three hours north of Mazas line and they were able to track down baby ava and return where to her mother. Everybody. Breaking news right now baby EVA low. We told you all of baby ava not long ago. Her mom goes to pick her up at a local coffee shop. Daddy never shows up with the baby she goes to his house day find the home cleaned out partially we moved out no trace of the Bio Dad and his brand new wife they are gone and so is the baby the. Big Headline Is Baby Ava is alive. Baby Ava has been found is back with her mother. You See Daddy there doing the permanent war daddy with the baby with the new wife in Mexico and joining me right now is baby abors grandmother. This is her paternal grandmother Melinda. Boris is with US exclusively Miss Baras I know you're concerned about your son tonight but the big news is they're both alive. Baby Abe. Abe is safe. What can you tell us? Why did your son Take Baby Ava? Out of the country. Girl and many lays up to story straight here her name is Eva Anderson it's not an low and Don. Life one takes my granddaughter out of the country to protect her. If I if I could start out by asking your audience today, do you think it's My son burden attorney out there that could help you. Go through this nightmare for him. Much appreciated. Okay Miss Peres your your side took the baby out of the country and was hiding in Mexico. Read Pay. Why did your son take the really because you told me where you were on my show. Big You had heard from him at all nobody knew where he was less you knew where he was all along and didn't tell anybody. So is that true? That is absolutely correct but my son was not trying to hide the white hurt with sitting at the bus station. My son signed his name to the tickets. If you wanted to hide, he would not what the breadcrumb trail where he was at. Well, why would you leave a trail? I don't understand leaving a bread crumb trail. You're referring to the story, Hansel and Gretel where the eagles data there was trying to kill the baby. All right. Let's rethink that comparison you're on with me recently, and you told me you did not know where your son was now to me if I don't let my family know where I am that means I'm hiding. Let me rephrase it for you. Why did your son leave the country with Baby Ava? Lifetime Brent Anderson. Saint Job for fifteen years. He has a Pursuit of rights as a father's roller judicial system. Was who took his life saving for last fifteen years of hiring attorney so that he could follow officials. Airs Borrow money from family. Caller Kikoko, that birth control the that our system as far as he could. So they wouldn't help my friend any longer. To keep her safe even call. CPS PPM even help is. If my son say from what Ma'am my life from what if your son is out borrowing money didn't you tell me? He quit his job. A surefire way to get money is to work and I would say just a second or third job if you need more money. So my question is if you needed money, why did he quit his job number two you haven't told me why he left the country with his daughter and most importantly, you say it was to keep baby ava say safe from what? Okay. Daddy's exclusive than I am going to give to everybody as soon as other attorney fired for my son. Again if there is. What if your audience members would like to step forward and now my I would be more than happy to give you the story about this woman earner family in the sick and demented things that they've worn down in there and that's the reason why that their relationship stopped in the first place and the theme that did not want my Miss Baras. Yes I appreciate that because my son we're in trouble I would do everything I could to get the best lawyer for him but it seems to me that if you really believe your little baby granddaughter Ava is threatened or is in trouble, you won't be talking. About exchanging her safety for an exclusive interview. Now, what is wrong with her? Surroundings why is she not saying if she's not safe, she needs to get out of that home right now. Get exactly what I'm seeing. That's why we call your commercial. Is Not working for because the. Spirit, we find out one reason if you are as difficult to get the answer I mean I'm pulling teeth here. She's not say then tell it. Let it be known. Let's get the child. If your son he had to go and take her to Mexico. He is not safe I tried saying that fits the CPS. My son says to CPS nobody will step in a takeover. They say it's matter jurisdiction where we're not gonNA do how else are we supposed to George you get? So system is not working with. Nobody is listening to what we're saying jared some serious issues or not. Maybe that's because you're not giving any answers miss borrows. Now offense I wanted to baby say. You're not giving me answers when you say the baby's about safe I, say why and you won't tell me who I think so that you're losing all your credibility. Let's try incest. Okay. Let's try insists on my granddaughter been molested. How we go there, how about we get some people on the show? Let's do some way to set your says. Is. Islam. There there are some serious issues going on in that household. I. Tell. You about what is what makes us come to this conclusion that it is this? What is? My granddaughter just not needs to be in that. Let me get this straight. Are you saying that baby ava has been the victim of child molestation while in the custody of her mother? Ma'am I. Am. Have you taken to a doctor? We have. What did the doctor say? My son has not abused her. reheat he. Did the first day. Try One more time with me as a paternal grandmother. She says, she fears for the trial safety. You say the child has been molested while the custody of her mother and you have taken her to the doctor repeat. What did the doctor tell you about baby abor? Empty I was not ask the doctor to know what was said, and then my son fled from the country I do not know with conversation was between him and the doctor. We're trying to obtain. You're on national TV saying the child's been molested it's been taken to a doctor but that's the one fact you don't know the answer to as to whether the doctor said she's been molested. Prisoners told me that it does she has been a listed. And I don't have the records to prove it. That's all. They need I need to have Franklin. Okay. I can show the evidence. Okay to Dave Mack morning. Talk say has W. A. Eggs. Dave Mack. Could you make any sense out of the paternal grandmother's clients? There's not a police report that we know of, and it's my understanding that in that jurisdiction. A tray position, a schoolteacher anybody believes that there is evidence of molestation or abuse and must be reported to police. Is there a police report dave? I'm biting my tongue over here listening to her tongue on your show again, a couple of weeks ago you had her on there and you knew there was some difficulties between the by the paternal grandmother and the mother we well understand that. But what we do know is that when baby a the came home from visiting her daddy that she had cut some breezes and burn marks on her hand and the biological mother took a to the doctor and the doctor. So they could photograph as they would have proof that that's what happened when she was with the biological father you got the mother here trying to dangle some kind. Of An exclusive interview, she's making accusations on national television and has nothing to back it up. The one thing we do know is that she's not being truthful with you because before when she was on, she said absolutely not she has no idea where he is he has no idea where the baby is only the baby is fine that he wasn't hurt the baby and now she says that she knew that he was in Mexico with the baby if he's so broke, why is he getting remarried? February the eleven the leading ten days later and taking his baby a with his new wife smuggling her across the border in a bus. Hiding out three hours for five. Win Games, new white family where has ever been late. This stinks to high heaven. rhetorician I have some hosts that action arena that were on the facebook page bring a home. On February twenty third there was a picture posted of Asia's favourite plush toy stitch from the movie low and stitch. He was looking out the window with a heartbreaking caption that said, this is avis favorite stuffed animals ditch. He's waiting on his best friend to come home. March Seventh Twenty, twelve it says good morning everyone. There hasn't been any new leads with police this morning, but we have been working with our contacts at missing and exploited children and working on sending information to America's most wanted to get them to air the story as well. Thank you everyone who has left their porch light on for Asia. On March Twenty, sixth twenty twelve. Thirty, four days missing thirty eight days since she was last seen by her mommy. Hope you're safe wherever you are baby girl. We will never stop looking where going to bring you back home. Porch lights on at night for Eva, until she home. On April third twenties well, someone updated the facebook page and said. Abbas home. Such a happy day for her mommy and daddy as seen above a an evo relief you so much this has been such a long journey to get you home with stop looking and are porch lights stayed on for you baby girl. Thank you to everyone following us on this journey. So glad to see there are still so many compassionate people in the world. Will Continue to keep you all updated as we hand through the rest of this process i. know by this point, the media has probably got wind of Asia's return a Redo ask that you continue to respect that and her family's privacy, and when she's ready for an interview, we will let you know. May Twenty Second Twenty, twelve, she said, hello all of holiday is I don't mean to neglect the page of updates life Jisr context the will and handle and sometimes it's hard to stop by and let everyone know the latest. Brent will be appearing in court tomorrow as he has put in a motion to be released to a third party hensel order have his bond reduced the judges meeting to rule on that motion it is my understanding that some news channels have asked to film it. So I will see if we can find that video. As for an EVA update, she's doing very well, her vocabulary is growing as well as her she is probably three-foot six and she's really getting to be tall. Thank you all for the Mother's Day. Wishes we had a good mother's Day she got me one of those hallmark roses that now sits in her room so she can open and close the bloom as much as she pleases. That's the latest will be updating again soon. On July First Twenty Twelve Athena wrote. I was doing some research today and found a fact that made my jaw drop according to a government website. There are estimated two hundred cases of parental abduction, a day and the United States. However, I don't find that extremely hard to believe because in the time that able was missing I got the privilege to speak with people who were victims of their parents taking NAM or the parents. Who had their child taken from them? It was just something I thought was really sad that it happens so often. September Twenty Years Twenty twelve she wrote. On Wednesday I went to family court and saw Brandt for the first time in seven months. The court hearing felt like it went quickly but by no means, did it wa by? The judge took under advisement what testimony was given and stated that she would publish her decision by minute injury I just wanted to let you know the latest. February eighteenth twenty thirteen she wrote one year ago today uphold NGO The starbucks parking lot to drop my child off with their father for court order parenting time. It was a short drop and to this day I can still feel the emotion of every time having watched my child go back and forth or mom and dad's house. I remember backing out of the parking spot after washing grant and his new wife drove away with Uva in the middle of them. Every time she lived. It would be, of course very sad but I would push it to the back of my mind and just or to when I would get back. On this particular day though I had no idea that I would not be seeing my child for the next forty five days and when never have imagined the manhunt sleepless nights and of course, support that our get to help find my baby. I cannot repeat enough how much. So appreciate the support ahead and finding my child. Thank you so much an update since this February eighteenth day one year ago. Brent is still in jail awaiting trial. He has been offered a plea bargain but hasn't said, yes or no Eva. As you can see earlier got a new puppy named Olivia. Amo has been in school for almost a all school year. She has made so much progress with her speech and motor skills. She hasn't shown any signs of trauma since she came Home April Third Twenty twelve. She has some instances where she will wake up from badgering him but for the most part has been a pretty happy three year old. So I got in touch with Athena and this is the newest update on Asia and the family. Eva is now of over eleven year old preteen. She's full of energy and his training in gymnastics although the trauma of a face has affected her cognitive learning, she makes it a goal every day to practice in her classes and Sher Khan is with anyone she comes into contact with. I said to me quote. I'm so grateful that I've gotten the opportunity to watch a thrive I know I'm incredibly lucky to have the outcome. I had a case like this. Every year on her anniversary of coming home I send the detective a thank you and update on Eva just to remind them how important their work yet is. So that is what a teen had to say and I found out that Brent was released from jail three years ago and he could have reached out for contact or visit through his probation officer. He got off probation a few months ago and he hasn't tried wants to see AVA. But I'm so glad that this episode had a great ending. Thank you so much for listening to this week's Code I really wanted to bring awareness to custodial child abduction because. This happens way more than I. Even thought that it did. When I think of camping I usually of strangers. And hundreds. Of Children get kidnapped by apparent. Every day. And I just wanted to bring awareness to that. Thank you so much for listening until next time. Stay safe and stay healthy.

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AP Headline News Jan 10 2019 10:00 (EST)

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05:00 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Jan 10 2019 10:00 (EST)

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The Mortal Kombat Of Abortion Ministry: The Jeff Durbin Interview

The Babylon Bee

54:23 min | 7 months ago

The Mortal Kombat Of Abortion Ministry: The Jeff Durbin Interview

"Real people real interviews. I just have to say that I object strenuously to your use of the word Valeria. Hard hitting questions. What do you think about it taking you to the cutting edge of truths? Yeah well last yet. Is One of the worst movies ever made? And it was very clear that Brian Johnson doesn't like Star Wars. Kyle pulls no punches. I want to ask how how you're able to sleep at night. He's a brings bone shattering common sense from the top rope. Double Dare you. This is the Babylon be interview. Show all right everyone. Well we are here. Hold up in the Babylon be offices. Quarantining ourselves so as not to spread corona virus. And we'RE GONNA have we're going to have passer. Jeff Durban Join US. But because of our quarantine told him to stay in Arizona and he's joining us instead over the airwaves and we don't think we can transmit corona virus that way so maybe maybe as far as we know we're not we're not sure as far as we know the brave new world we live in. Yeah so. Jeff is a pastor and elder vo. Apology a church and You might have seen him on facebook. This is where I saw him on. Okay videos On the facebooks on the facebooks doing martial arts outside of abortion clinics jumping out of bushes and roundhouse kicking abortionists the most effective form of ministry these days punching abortion doctors in their ugly faces. Wow we did have one recently pulled a gun on one of our people. So Laurie martial arts may be required. Let's Can we hear that story? Yeah do you have any other stories? You WanNa tell we have so many stories. Okay Hawk. That's what we like. We like to ask our guests. Hey got any cool stories and then we can sit back. Yeah I I love doing theology of course and all the episodes thing is really important. And but I think one of the things that makes podcast in podcasts. In particular and radio shows interesting is storytime people talking about stories. It makes it very interesting so when it's like Drag Queens reading stories favorite those. That's yeah well okay. Sorry sorry so All right so the recent thing to happen with Dr Ronald Unis. He is an abortion. Doctor in goodness technically Phoenix. I guess so it's interesting. This guy's interesting because he has a legitimate physician's practice not far down the road from the place where he's murdering children so he's He's helping to care for human beings on the one hand and the other hand he goes and he murdered children brags about the fact that He'll pull up in different cars all the time. I think last time Pastors Zach saw him. Our team was out there. He pulled up a new vehicle enrolled on his cars roll. Down a window was like It seems like every time I see you guys that have a different car and SORTA bragging about it. So He's an interesting character and so he was at Phoenix Casey a women's Center it's called and We have there's a number of people out there and other believers we work with outside that facility saved lots of children from there and He was pulling out one day and Elvis guy's name is Elvis. He has We always we always tell everyone where they're they're GOPRO cameras. He has his camera on his chest and The guy's pulling out in. So Elvis is standing there trying to talk into his window to engage him and Dr Ronald UNICEF pulls out a pretty large handgun points. A straight at Elvis in the Nice thing was is obviously all this was witnessed by the people who are standing there but also is camera so that there was a Thursday. I believe that day Elvis and I think others from the team go to the Phoenix Police Department to file an official report to give the evidence and all the rest and nothing happened. I mean it's amazing because I mean can you imagine the news stories not just in Arizona across the country? If you have pro-life quote protesters outside of an abortion facility and they pulled a gun on an abortionist town and I don't think it'd be but a matter of minutes before there was response and you know I mean if if the people had left with a gun we probably have the SWAT team at our houses so he pulls the gun The report is filed. Nothing happens no investigations. Going on of any significant nothing. No one's contacted. There's nothing and so about a week goes by and we're like well what's going on. I mean this guy. We'VE GOT HIM ON VIDEO. We've got the evidence got witnesses and they're not moving at all so we decided you know what the best thing for us to do is to get the community in on this because they're going to expose it. The police departments not going to end so we got the team the the the video team in our crew out there on the next Thursday and we put mics on on everyone and will we were planning on. Doing was basically filming us there. When Dr Ronald Eunice showed up US contact in the police department to let them know man the pulled. The weapon is now here. Please come in respond to do something about this. And so we found the whole thing Dr Ronald Unicef pulls up and Beautiful car and he goes inside. We film ourselves calling in Phoenix Police Department and nothing they don't. They don't respond quickly. They're not showing up and so people can't see in the videos online but can't seen the video because we didn't actually put this part in is that they didn't respond. We had to actually chase down a police car. That was going a different direction about a block away or so and So that's how we got the police to respond as we just wave this cop car down. That was going a different direction and he thought something was going on the gas station parking lot. Where waving them down at and so he pulls in we've got the whole thing. Fell into our conversation was shown the video showing the pictures stills they go inside the investigate Dr Wrong Units. He Says No. I don't even bring them down with me to the to the facility and they come out and they're like yeah. We can't really tell us a gun so we're like whether it's witnesses. We got the video. Here's the pictures. What do you mean you can do? I mean how is that not a gun and so I say to them. It's in the video and you know I'm doing my best to be as gracious as possible to these law enforcement officials. That are obviously not helping us in. Something's going on some sort of bias. There I said at the officers you know. You can't tell that that's a gun. You need to consider a different career choice. And so they leave. They do nothing. And so we've got an official report on file of all the evidence the witnesses we've got police showing up there now. They're seeing the video themselves on the spot. Nothing so this is amazing the providence of God. I love a place called shake shack. I don't know if you guys have shacks where you're at. Yeah we do. I think it's amazing and the other pastors in my family are always making fun of me. Because I'm always like what about shake shack? Has that sound good to you guys again today. So I'm not the abortion male whole thing's over with they're not gonNA do anything and so the teams there. I'm like you know everyone's been here for a long time. I WANNA buy everybody lunch and so I said What do you think about going to lunch? So like Yeah Great. I said Hey. How about shake shack? And everyone's you know kind of giggling like Shirley shake shack. Now Mind you. This shake. Shack is not even near that Casey Women Center. It's it's a drive and so we all get in our cars and we drive to the shake shack. That's like I said significantly farther away than we ought to go for lunch and it just turns out on the Providence of God as we walk into the shake Shack Phoenix that it seems like it was like the Phoenix. Police officer Shake Shack Convention. They're all these cops are their uniform. Police Officers Phoenix PD. Same Enforcement Unit and everything. And they're all there you've got detectives. They're in plain clothes with guns on and everything. It was just epic. I mean we're we're trying to engage Phoenix policemen. And now here where they're they're in. It's just they're all over so somebody suggested. Let's film ourselves talking to these police officers. Let's not give them any context. Let's just shown the video and ask them. What do you think that is and so so? It was perfect so we got all this camera. We've film ourselves talking to the Phoenix. Pd detectives the plant the uniformed officers and it was instant all of them as soon as they see it. They go Looks like a gun. Yeah that's a gun and so we put this video together a short video we drop it Friday morning at nine. Am We dropped it mind you? Nothing still happening with Phoenix. Pd They're not responding and they basically said no and so we dropped the video. Nine am by noon by noon. I getting phone calls from every news agency in the Phoenix area. All of them literally all the major agencies everyone of them and and we also noticed that the Phoenix police department on their official facebook page gave public notice that they were going to be arresting Dr Ronald Unis- And it took about three hours And it was. It was because we put the video up. In the community responded. I don't we don't know how many phone calls they receive but it was a lot and And so they responded within three hours. They arrested arrest. Dr Ronald Unis- For for pulling the weapon. I don't really know what the current status of all that is right now But yeah that was. That was an incident outside the abortion facility. It's interesting because outside the abortion facility for years. Now we've had people try to hit. Us with their cars. That's a fairly common practice. People will cut in really really tight on purpose to try to get onto the curb to hit us We've had people literally jumped the curb and try to hit US And we've had people throw things at us we've had people come out and beat one of One of the other brothers. That was up. Knocked him out and they kept beating them up while he was passed out. We've we've had just you know every nasty insult Come out of the window as you're out there the happened the whole time. You're out there and Oh yeah and it's amazing one week before Dr Ronald Municipal The gun. Our team was out in tempe and some random God that dropped a girl off a he pulled a gun out and unfortunately our guy didn't have as Gopro on that day so nobody is able to see that one so it can be definitely definitely very dangerous hostile hedge. If you think you're asking for though by dressing up as Johnny for mortal Kombat interesting. Honestly I'd be I'd want to have some kind of personal section of you bring nunchucks or anything like being prepared for danger. I well. I'm personally prepared because of my training but we have a rule. We don't use maintain this role always in evangelism in street ministry But we have a rule when it regards to the abortion ministry where we don't bring any any any weapons there's we don't bring a gun. Were legally allowed to have weapons to defend ourselves. But we don't have a gun out there and the reason for that is. We don't want anybody to get the wrong impression or we know and I'm telling you this is. This is no exaggeration. Of all the years that we've done this we have experienced. So many instances of the police actually coordinating with planned parenthood and the abortion facilities Trying to get US trying to get us in trouble We actually we. We're we're going to release this probably soon. We have some of the a body cam footage of the police officers who went into planned parenthood. Once it's this is a freedom of Information Act. I mean it's amazing that they didn't turn their body cameras offer this but they were back there basically working with them saying well like what can we use against them. Do you have this offshoot like they were trying to? You know it's it's a it's a tough thing so we know if we bring weapons to the abortion facility that they might try to use it against us in lie so we don't do it there but I will say that at Church when I'm preaching I'm packing. There's probably about twenty-five members of apology. Church that are carrying guns. Every service and Generally speaking if we're going out to vandalism there's probably somebody from apology that's armed. So mathematically speaking that means that there's probably a mass shooting at your church every week. Well I don't know what that means but I think Well we're from your guns that there are the the more mass shooting so we just during the assume if they start shooting everyone shooting the wild wild west down here. No isn't it interesting place with The kind of gun freedom that we have in Arizona. You're not seeing the kinds of mass shootings. Because I mean well. I mean if you consider if you walk into a movie theater in Arizona. There's probably a lot of people on their carrying so probably a bad place to try to shoot people up because you're going to get shot back. Maybe the guns in those areas are home schooled. So they're not as free spirited like the guns out in California too that's what it is by themselves outlook. Yeah Yeah Jeff. We'd appreciate it if you'd stop using the term abortion mill. Yeah we we prefer women's Health Clinic and reproductive rights. Senator may you are. You are from California so that language. It makes perfect sense to me that the police would have no issue. You tell them. An abortion doctor has a tool of death and he aimed at somebody. That's that's his whole job. He's doing what he does. Yeah well that's what he does exactly like I as a as a A skin doctor. You know. Pull the scalpel on me. Link People's faces open. Well he is good at it so remain right dark it is it is it is it is dark thing and you know. I mean of all the years of ministry that we've all been doing ministry in all the very hard places I mean we have. We have regular ministry to Paula Church. We have specific local outreach to get the Gospel in the Public Square and regular basis. We go to the Strip clubs. We go to the abortion mills. We go to. Asu We go to downtown Phoenix. We are constantly going to the Mormon wards on the weekends to go engage with them. We're always out doing things. And that's tough ministry the Strip clubs hard ministry For our team the Mormon temples hard ministry for our team. You know people don't like you being there They get upset but God saves people and it's it's incredible but the hardest ministry we've ever done without question is emotional ministry and it sorta starts with the emotional aspect is really difficult so you go and generally speaking we sort of expect this is believers who fell will challenge to go out and save lives improve the Gospel out there. We'RE READY FOR THIS. The first time they come out generally they're filled with tears just because it hits you like now it has flesh on right. It's all it's all hypotheticals in theory beforehand. You know what the truth God is. You Know God says in his word you know what's going on in there but it's out there and then when you're standing there on the sidewalk and you're watching the mothers and fathers carrying their killed their their children to be killed all of a sudden it hits you and so it's you know it's very trying emotionally very very hard. Now there's ever a time where you can say I'm no longer going to cry out here because it'll it'll hit you. There's days where you'll see thirty people going in and it really weighs on you. And there's also the aspects of it that you are vilified hated. The deaths courts out there. That's the planned parenthood escorts that volunteer their time to go out there and to comfort the women as they go in there to kill their children. And so that'll that'll be there and they are just nasty the lion out you they will. They'll contact the police in lie about what you've been doing. I mean they're just yelling. Things Nasty things back at. You never really want to engage in an actual conversation with you because Their argument can't be sustained but it's nasty than the communities driving by. You know people are telling you you you're number one you know ten times a day and You know yelling out the window screaming at you pulling the car over to yell at you So I mean it's it's a hard hard ministry it is it is violent not from us But it's it's ugly and you're going to get you're gonNA stepped on out there but I mean as a result of just from just from us. This is just my own experience. We're not the thing here. I mean there's people that are veterans. Have been doing this for much longer than I look up to his heroes but Justin's apology church has been doing this. We've saved hundreds of children At our local mills just one church and then since we started end abortion now and we equip other churches and train them and give them resources All this for free now. We have nearly five hundred churches that have that have signed up gotten trained miniatures go out regularly and there have been thousands and thousands of children saved so while it's the ugliest and Darkest Ministry of ever ever been involved in it is also the most rewarding and powerful ministry. I've ever been able to to participate in had jeff. Do you have a uterus? I do not have a uterus now. We don't really care to say what what what. What is the attitude I? I know. There's some controversy in this? And you know you have people that consider themselves abolitionists in versus a more moderate pro-life position. Whatever you see on the streets. What does the attitude of women that are going in there? Because I know that I know that a lot of times we kind of see it as well. They're deceived her desperate place. And you know if their situation had been a little different they wouldn't have done it. And then you have kind of the other side will say well no. It's you know they. They know exactly what they're doing and I'm wondering kind of what your take is on. Yeah that's important question. I think it's probably actually. I'm glad you asked it because if we're going to face this as Christians in if it's going to be about the Gospel if we're going to stay on scripture as a response if we're not gonNA play neutrality like generally the pro-life industry input and I very specific about that. Pro-life is our position that Christians owned that position because we are for life. But there's a pro-life industry a pro-life lobby a pro-life Business operation that plays neutrality. Refuses to make it about. Scripture explicitly says we are not a Christian organization matter of fact the largest Pro Life Organization on the planet National right to life had explicitly told us they're not a Christian organization. They won't call it murder. They're not working for its immediate criminalization. All those things so it so the question you're asking is vital if we're gonNA ever actually accomplish anything as Christians in this area For the glory of God in in terms of Gospel centered approaches They call it the pro-life industry lobby call it They'll say that she's a victim. So I SORTA Hashtag along time ago. Hashtag not victim in all it was was just taking videos of stuff is happening. Abortion mill women going inside calling out to US admitting their murdering their child saying I can kill my child if I want to Other videos of you know pro choicers doing videos bragging about the fact that they've killed her babies saying things like murders. Murdering my baby is delicious. Those sorts of things So I created the Hashtag to try to get people to start coordinating and just doing more and more piling up now. There's a website called not victims. We it's not ours but someone did that in just to sort of illustrate what takes place outside the abortion mill. What the pro choicers will try to say about this. In terms of this is just a woman who's life is hard. She's got her whole life ahead of her future. You know she's a victim to the child within her. Though you know that sort of picture or even the pro-life lobby and industry that will explicitly say she's a victim and so as the baby so babies victim and so as the mother who brings the baby inside to be dismembered So they'll say she's a victim but if you go out there if you're on the east if you're on the sidelines you're talking to these. They'll tell you I know what's my baby. I know it's a baby. I think I have a right to kill my baby if I want. I don't want to care for this child so I'm killing it We video at a pro choice march outside. The Was the Phoenix capital last year and I interviewed these three college age girls and the videos up online. Some talking to him. And I'm just letting them. Sorta tell their story and I'm being very gracious a respectful to them but I want them to sort of say. This is our position and so I'm sort of pressing them and pressing them on their position for consistency. And I'm talking about the biology and what God says about it. I'm talking about murdering the child and so these women two of the three are trying really hard not to just come out and say it like yes. We're murdering her children. That's what we're four and finally get to the end of that conversation. We've taken down all the barriers. Now you just gotTa come come up meet the upfront with it and so the two girls when I finally ask it you essay. So you're arguing that you should be able to your child And the two girls still. Like wow and then finally the one girl just comes out and says she says yes. Yep Yeah that's that's what we're here for. That's we believe that's all right and yes and so not not a victim. And here's here's what's critical boys. If if we fail. It's interesting if you face this issue and you say from a Non Biblical perspective you now standing on scripture you're avoiding Biblical worldview saying let's take the position of neutrality and you say look the issue of abortion is. She's a victim. Let's say you're generally pro-life pro-life lobby industry that whole realm. Ise LOOK WE WANNA end abortion. We we don't want it to happen anymore and we think it is killing huma being. They'll be very cautious not to use the word murder but they'll say things like you know we think the MOMS victim. Well my argument is. We've now gutted any possibility of being able to actually criminalize this or end this. Because here's the deal you can't legislate a preference and if she's not guilty of a criminal act if abortion isn't murder and if the MOM is guilty if she's a victim there's nothing to legislate against. You can't legislate against something that's just simply a preference you legislate on moral issues and if we guts the biblical framework of saying murdering your child is a crime. Then we can't legislate against it or do really anything effective against it. Which is by the way why I think we're seeing fifty years of sixty two plus million babies with the pro the neutral pro-life lobby Approaching this from a from a non biblical perspective because there's there's a pursuit of the ending of abortion that looks something like this They'll say here's a victory though. Raise millions of dollars and they'll say well. Here's here's a victory. We have A what's the victory say. Well the ABORTIONISTS has no longer allowed to kill a child using Forceps now they're only allowed to use suction and they'll call it a victory they'll tell their their followers and they'll tell the people who've donated we've had a victory no longer. Death through forceps and dismemberment that way it's only through suction in my my my challenge. Two brothers and sisters guys think about this. Would we ever accept if we turn the clock back standing outside of Auschwitz? Would we ever accept it as a victory if we said? Hey we've been able to legislate against the Nazis being able to beat Jews to death. Now they can only gas them like victory. We would say no. That's not a victory because in principle. We know what's really wrong here and so when you ask those questions the issue is very. It's vital issue is. The woman who with premeditation brings her child into be killed by an assassin. She's killing her child. On an unjustified manner is that murder Initi- guilty from a biblical worldview perspective. You'd have to say yes. Do we want her to know. Jesus yes we want her to know the grace of God yes. I have women at apology at Church. That are that have had number of abortions and their save their in Christ. They're not condemned. Want all women who have killed their children's in no the grace of God and Jesus however In terms of the issue of justice. We have to actually ask the question. What is a consistent Biblical worldview and Judicial What's a consistent? Judicial response to the issue of abortion will actually end the injustice of abortion. And if we're saying the woman is a victim like the baby then we're never gonna be able to actually ended the weird thing with being the woman being a victim. The the man is completely left out of the question now to like what is she victim of like. She's just kind of this arbitrary victim of reality. Or what is victim of Patriarchy Patriarchy Patriarchy? Yes yes but the patriarchy isn't getting like the guy who isn't held accountable wherever the guy is right right right and and and that's so backwards. Yeah just briefly. I'm standing outside of abortion mill. And you watch those guys who bring in their women inside their watch him talk to him seat. See the callousness see the fact that they know they know what they're doing and the saddest thing is when you see a man who actually stands on the abortion. Melanie's and tears and he's just bawling his eyes out begging the woman not to kill their child. That's always so hard to deal with but it's rare. It's rare to see something like that but it does happen. And and it's it's difficult to see that because you'll even see the man pleading for the life of his child and the woman knows she knows because you here's the father of the child saying please don't kill my child and she's saying. I'm going with anyways. She's not a victim she knows. And that sounds so harsh. But it's it just shows I think I think guys and this is what I think these to be communicated we've become calloused on this issue and I think we've allowed the culture to change our minds about it even as Christians even as much as we say it's murder it can't be done. We're still impacted by how the culture has taught us on this issue and so you know what look violent response will have today in its appropriate. God's Word says that man stealing and slaven is actually worthy of capital punishment. And that was like his his verbal response to that issue. Is it so wicked. Its so evil. This is what we this agency it. Now we've got this in our past. You've got Americans even people who profess to be Christians who engaged in man stealing and enslaving now. That's so far behind us now and the history books. Tell us that story and we see it for what it is so. We've got the Bible an history convincing us. This was a wicked and we think about it. Just Yuck and yes it's wicked. It's a horrible evil crime against humanity. How disgusting is a so far behind us? But we we we respond. And we're we're it's revolting to US however in this case with the issue of abortion we've been so taught by our culture even as Christians even people who believe it's murder that we don't have the same response in terms of no that should never be allowed it is a crime. It is deplorable. It is disgusting we should war against it and of course the slave owners who engaged in that were were guilty of crimes and of course they should have been punished. And that's because it's so far behind us and we all agree. How wicked is that? But it's amazing. Today you can even ask the common believer you can say you believe it's murder. Yeah I believe murder. Well if it's if we ever get to the place where it's ended should the mother who kills her child be should be occurring and you'll have people well no. I don't think she should be punished much. But she's the one carrying the child into be dismembered she's paying the assassin health professional health professional and correct. You know and that's the thing and you brother you you're saying right because that's the deal. When I said that we're being taught by the culture there it is that it's it's calling him health centers. It's calling it health care. And that's how we've even had our minds shifted and changed because that's that's how that's how they're winning the argument. You think that's the greatest marketing ploy of the last fifty years. Yeah is that when they decided to that healthcare? That's it's just like they feel like they've cornered the market on compassion for women and it does feel like we have this divide where I I fear sacrificing compassion for women for for complete compassion for the unborn. Even as well saying that like that sounds wrong. Come into in my mouth but like the hard part is that the the woman is standing in front of you. That's that's the part of that that I sympathize with even though a completely I'm horrified by abortion. I you know I. It's hard to find those arguments that come out of Matt Direction Right. Yes well think about it in this context to is trying to create a contrast where people go okay. No I agree with that as Christians. Do we want the guy who's engaged in sex trafficking? So He's you know he's enslave some women he's involved in sex trafficking. What's the curse Christian response? Do I want the Manson? Oh Jesus yes I want him to know the race of God and be saved I do. I WANNA know Jesus. I want him to experience the life that I have. I'm guilty before God. I deserve help us as much as him. Of course I want him to know Jesus but do I also want him to be punished? Do I want justice? Yeah Yeah I want both and so the issue of abortion. We have to see in the same light you have to ask. You have to ask ourselves. Do we. Believe abortion is a sin and a crime and I think the answer is yes. Murder should be a crime and so we have to look at this in a different way and say look okay. She's guilty the MOM is guilty of a sin and a crime and so we should see it as a crime but I still want her to know. Jesus you know it's interesting too because you mentioned before you know you don't you don't have a uterus. You can't talk about this but watch agreed we don't we? Don't do that with other things because it's wild. How they've been able to sort of shift shifted so like imagine for a second a woman she finds out down. The street from houses actually happened on the street from my house about a mile and a half away. Actually I saw the SWAT team taking his house down. It was sex trafficking house and Imagine that my my woman My neighbors a woman she finds out about it and she's like can you believe that? Oh my I hope the cops you know. That will throw the book at them. Hope gets criminalized and all the rest. Imagine if I said to her. Well Ma'am you don't have a penis and she's whatever do you mean you don't have a pinas so you can't really talk about what he wants to do with his body. I mean it's his body has choice. He can do what he wants to those women because it's his body and you don't have a penis. He can't talk about sex trafficking. You're not the one you know. If THEY WANNA buy sex let them by SAX and she's like no no what. Wait a second. You're forgetting about the victims here now. Everyone realizes of course of course but in this situation we've gotten to the place where we can't even see through that on but all you have to do is provide the contrast and everyone should be able to see it. So what's stopping them? My answer is well. We know from scripture. The issue for all of us is sin in rebellion against God and the light of God through the Gospel and by God's spirit opener is to the truth so I think the real issue with the issue of abortion is not winning this by mere neutral argumentation or biological argumentation. Because there's never going to convince anybody for their heart to change. Only God can do that. Through God's truth it's The law and the Gospel. You bring the log on to bear so that it can cause the flee to Christ in. It's interesting guys. There's videos we have. I don't even know how many we have up on this issue. You'll bring up the issue of biology outside of an abortion mill with the college student on the street and you'll demonstrate without question. This is a human being from conception unique. Dna The only difference between where they're at and where you're at today's a difference of degree size level of development environment degree of dependence. You can't kill human beings for those reasons it's a human being and they'll just tell you he. I think we still be able to kill him. Yeah that's what makes this whole thing so possible. It's like you the whole idea that ideas have consequences and you can't simultaneously hold a view that life is precious and then also except for in this instance. It's completely go backwards on like that doesn't compute with our culture now like cultural shift where we just. We don't we. Don't do that math problem. We just kind of ignore it right. Those those who hate me loved him gone says so if we God in our culture largely does for hate God we love death and that's what we get and get the death of family. We get our own personal deaths. You talk about it. All the all the ways that death manifest itself in a in a fallen dead culture and then of course you've got the love of death. The love of the death of the pre-born our culture is seeped in death right now. We'll speaking of loving death. Let's shift to you being involved in mortal Kombat. Yes what would you like that? We're going to be real issues real issues. Okay so this Horrifying murder we out. Well so I I was So I was born in seventy eight and so the nineties were. Those were my teenage years. Video game years and When mortal Kombat came out guys? I don't know how old you guys are. But I remember going to the arcade and you'd you'd be on the line for the mortal combat machine and you put your quarter up on the on the screen to show up next and you know you had you got to play around die and then you know. Get BACK INTO LINE AGAIN. Do it again. And so I was there for mortal Kombat part one part choose release and all the guys that were part of part one and part sue the actual characters in the game were friends of mine and so they were actually on my karate team so these are like buddies of mine and actually Shang Sung From the video game from part to his name is Phillip. He actually is a doctor and became a doctor because he wanted to be a Christian missionary doctor. So he was the demon sorcerer and mortal Kombat to of course Christian missionary so those are all. I thought I always thought that those were all like I thought they were made in Japan or something. No no this is wizards. Yeah that's an American game. Yeah well yeah. That's right so mortal combat when it first came out. I mean they straight up for part one green screened it so Mike My Friend Dino Pasadena. He played which was he was. He was Scorpion and Johnny Cage. In part one then they use the same cast of characters in some more guys. Report to so yeah. That was a super popular game and then in Nineteen ninety-six The what was the name. David Fish off productions who produced like the Beatles Tower and like just a bunch of like big heavy hitters. They announced they were going to do. The mortal Kombat live tour across the United States and they auditioned tens of thousands of people for this thing but all of sort of my teammates and friends From national competition or martial arts. They went and auditioned and they all got The roles for that but I was still in high school at the time and so I couldn't really be in mortal Kombat live towards those finishing high school and then high school was Almost up I went to tournaments. It was the Boston nationals. E- ends So I flew to Boston and how it happened is actually interesting. I was competing daytime division. I go up I perform my my thing and as I'm walking out of the ring. I'm still like gasping for air covered in sweat and this guy walks up to me and he says hey what size pants di wire. I was like well asking me that often. Yeah House like what? Why my gasping? What what he's like your size like what you're seeing size. I was like I. Who who are you? What and he said. I'm with David Fish off productions. We Produce Mortal Kombat alive tour. We know who you are. We like you to lucky to play Johnny Cage in the live tour the world tour and it was perfect because I was finished. I was finishing high school so I could say yes now to it and so I agreed to do it and I did the world tour I played Johnny Cage Night Wolf and Baraka For the for for the world tour and Yeah and so that's That's how I got involved in that crazy that we had a president named after him. Mortal Kombat character. What I got a Mama. Yeah that's right saying in Alabama. Bama Barack Nice sorry I haven't let kyle ask question for awhile down. I don't even know I mean you were allowed to play more because you're arcades and I'm like those actually existed a little young. I'm too young. Yeah I'm two years younger than you. They were putting the quarter on the machine stranger things. I did not coordinate now. That wasn't what I was too. I was too young. I walked probably a little over a mile to get to the seven eleven and they how is it is at one game and it was. It was final fight for the longest. Final fight yeah. I love those guys. I mean we go to like the hockey rink to go ice skating. Or whatever and they had like three cabinets. They're you know. They had Samurai showdown and street fighter. Two Games also. I've seen it but I'm not seeing like this. Let's go after school. We're GONNA ride our bikes over to the arcade. Like I thought that was made up by street That's definitely where you know. It's true like nowadays like you'll have places to have arcades now and no one pays any mind to them plus corona virus so ill But like that is where you hung out like everyone went there to him with friends To get into fights to meet girls like that's where that's where that's where that's what I did but I wasn't a believer so so yeah that's what that's what you did and I was just. That was just the nineties. So so you're like living large hanging with beautiful people in the comedy. Make lots of money. Mortal Kombat lifestyle is living pool. Hot tubs full of blood. And that's what you do in combat. Yeah Yeah so then WH- ripping out spine left and right so then win win. Did Jesus perform -ality on you? How did he get through all that? So let's see because you were a Ninja Turtle. Also I was Jesus. Finish him not this that you're good at this. That's so I tend to my wife and I have a disagreement about this Do Not know if my you know what happened happened early on. We DON'T WANNA cousin the issue now. Yeah it was. I would just question whether my initial profession of faith was a genuine conversion I I don't know doubtful But after I've went into a drug and alcohol addiction God Just broke shattered. My life and brought me back to the scriptures and I began to read the Scriptures Really seemed like it was like finally seeing the message of Jesus the call to come in to die and to calculate the cost to come to him and I saw my life I saw what was professing to believe but then what I was actually doing and how is living and got up my eyes to the truth and so after my addiction August I was in my early twenties. That's when I when God saved me and I turn to Christ. I know then for real. I'm trying to think here was that before or after Ninja Turtles I don't remember I didn't four after that. That one was There was a studio here and there is a studio here in Phoenix that Actually it's got a cool history it Jimi hendrix recorded their. The Beatles recorded their the rolling stones. Recorded there This is famous little studio spot. But it's there you wouldn't even know it is. It's not marked with anything. And I had a relationship with them. I did some video games with them. coordinated the stunts four and. I did the stunts for mission. Impossible age of empires to just a a number of a number of things projects A project that Steven Spielberg was going to do. And then he decided last minute. Kill it and They contacted me one day and they were like. Hey we need you to come in. We've got this project and we can't tell you about it and you gotta come in sign confidentiality paperwork before. Tell you about the possibility this project and I was like all right so I go downtown and go to the studio and I walk in and I'm sitting in the lobby and he's bringing this pile of paperwork to me and I to say I'm just signing paperwork signing my life away like confidentiality. We'll we'll take you on your first born child if you mentioned this kind of thing and it was like Hasbro Tunca Just I mean everybody different things with them signing a while. I will say nothing about this project so I fill all the paperwork out. I go upstairs with my friend. And we go up to the big roundtable with all the bigwigs and executives. And they're like all right. They said we Working with an incidentals franchise opportunity this project and We like you guys to do the stunt coordination the fight scenes and character stuff for Ninja Turtles. Now Mind you. I grew up with Ninja Turtles. Yeah same here and I was not allowed to watch for the home schoolers listening you might have not understood a few things that were mentioned during building Jimi Hendrix. The Beatles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Oh man that's so funny. Yeah so I I grew up watching and then two turtles some of my Some of my heroes in martial arts were the original guys in the suits and So it was like a big deal to me so when I'm sitting at the table I don't know what I'm there for. And then they finally announced it. They're like Ninja Turtles. No joke like everything in me was like trying really hard just to look very serious and professional like you were trying not to shout. Cowabunga exactly exactly so like you know we one reference the one thing I know Cowabunga. Yeah and so at the time I'm just holding on containing everything I've Gone. I'm holding it in and they're like we'd like you to take ownership of this and sort of be the head of this and we're like okay. Yeah well okay. That sounds good. I guess yes I think so and so my friend and I both of US grew up in the martial arts together and competing together and both Ninja turtles fanatics. We leave the studio. We drive out of the parking lot. And we're like screaming in the car. Like no way and then it became now a very intense battle between between having a pizza party. Well we probably did actually and we had really the hard part was like we were best friends growing up but there was a real moment where our danger or our friendship was truly in danger and that was where he and I had to basically make a decision as to who would play which Ninja Turtle Them. They left us. That's ended a lot of friendships just in childhood and a lot of guys going up guys. That's right and so so We finally I don't even remember exactly how he did it except to say like well. What are you really better at with a weapon? And he was better at those two. I was like these are mine. And that's what I'm so that's how we decided it was like I. I'm better at nunchucks in the bow and your body with the size and the sword and so that's what how I got Michelangelo Donatello. He got the other ones and then we also needed other characters to be played and it was all motion capture stuff because it was a it was for a TV show that was like animated And I played What's his name? I can't believe it is lost it with the hockey stick. Oh Casey Jones. Yes and also did case rhetoric. Yeah Wayne Gretzky Gretzky. Who is so? What was this the it would show? It was for the project that ever come out and it was well. Yeah it was for the project. They were doing with the television series. So this this was where the action one no no. This was for the Franchise Motion Camper TV series. Basically this this is early on man. They've come far. This is early on and capture. Where they they were really like toy story had like fairly recently. Come out there are really getting big of motion capture and so this when we when we did it. The motion capture stuff. We did business insanely expensive. Sound stage all I all. I remember the most was there was this globe above our heads that was for the motion capture and basically we're working with weapons and long staffs in like doing fight scenes this things right above our heads and I remember the guys were like all right guys just reminder if you hit that ball up there it's about a million dollars so please don't please don't do that. And that's the scary thing especially because the suits we were wearing at the time These were not wireless motion. Capture suits like people get to the benefit of now with little balls glowing balls on. This is still at the time where we had like cords attached to each point on our body and it came together in like a tail in the back that went to the computer operating system. So like when we're doing the fight scenes we'd finish a fight scene in the cords wrapped around my neck and his weapon. You know we're like wrapped up in everything else. That was so good. When was that? Maybe two thousand ish is when that was when we found that yes. I'm wondering what did this come out as I don't remember this. This is so from what I understand. I THIS IS I. Don't even I didn't even watch what they ultimately did with the stuff but early on this was for the franchise for the TV. Show stuff they were doing for and it was all motion. Capture kind of Cards this was like Nickelodeon I. Yeah I'm not sure exactly what they ultimately did with it. But I have if you look on our Apology our studios channel. There is some old somewhere in there if you if you look up Jeff Durban and karate. There's somebody out there would've shows clips of the actual fight scenes and shows clips from the what the franchise did with it so but to be clear. This was not the Michael Bay ones. You're distancing yourself and is not the Michael Bay ones would just dawned on me. What is that. Ninja Turtles is pro-life. How so because these four baby turtles were flushed down the sewer and then they they grew up to become heroes in the engine if they just died down there as everybody wanted and they were they were going to adopt anyway. The Daddy yes the rat who is the symbol of Something good yeah. He's cheat your your region. Bandon them then reach. And it's it's for sure and there's somewhere in the last thing I ever did for Martial Arts Steph was a TV show for MTV called the final Fu and wish. I never did. How do you spell food F? You know don't now. We have that isolated Joe Spill. I all right. So that's the last thing I did. It was a fight series for MTV and good job. They trick. They tricked me into doing it. They auditioned thirty martial artists across the country. And then I had a manager at the time and I guess. Mtv got a consultant. He was like look. You're GONNA have some some people who have reputation on the show like world champions that kind of stuff and so somehow they got to manager and manager. Contact me she said. Mtv wants you for this fight series. And so I talked. Mtv and I said well like what is it exactly. Is it like real full contact fighting. Because I don't want to do point fighting stuff that doesn't mean there's no real way to show the winner in that and then McDonnell. This is full-contact. What's that mean? They said well like you got a knock the person like out of the ring or knock them out and knock them down and I was like all right. Well okay. I'll talk to you. So then they flew me out. I talked to him and then I went thought about it some more and they flew me out again. I did a bunch of like medical examinations and stuff and then I agreed to it because he said it was a full contact fight series and When I ended up getting out there the first day I landed. They did some interviews preliminary interviews on camera and they were like how do you? How do you think your strategy is going to change since there's no head contact and You know it's light or contact like house. How does that Change Your Strategy? More as a martial artist and I was like wait. What what do you mean? Like how can they were like well in Keno? Kicks are worth less than punches. So punches are worth more as wait. Hold on you can't hit to the head you can't knock anybody out. You have to hit with light contact and your kicks or worth less than punches. That's that's the opposite of martial arts competition and they were like yeah. What ANYTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE STRATEGY? I was like well. That's GonNa make this for a very boring fight series. I was like I thought this was full-contact. No no no not full-contact I was like Oh boy so From from the get-go everybody was on on on set with there was like a professional was like this is GonNa look ridiculous and ended. Did because what we realized early on was if punches are worth more than kicks and you can't really hit the head all anybody has to do and I know we're not on camera right now but all anybody has to do is literally. Put your hands on your chest and curl up a no ball and just run it to the guy and do like rock and sock them robots his belly. And you're going to get more putting more points for those punches and so I remember one of the one of the days were on this like tall building in Los Angeles. It's nighttime they built the set on top of this building. And there's this fight going on and they literally looked like rock him soccer robots. It looked so ridiculous and so I remember the director calls cut. And he's like. Hey guys this is the most ridiculous thing. Nobody's GonNa Watch this thing if you guys don't actually do martial arts with each other and I just raised my hand real respect. Well Sir. I said these are the rules you set up and this is the this is the best way to win this thing. Is rockin soccer robots because this isn't martial arts competition and So it ended up. The series went out it was popular for a little bit and then it just doesn't happen. That's last. That's the last thing I did. And the commercial. They used to sell the the program that was constantly playing on. Mtv for like two months was a video where it was like. Some people will do this and some people will break the rules and it was me doing spinning psychic. Somebody's growing and kept showing that over and over and over like me breaking the rules. So you're the blue breaker that's me final food. I think that's what we call corona virus the final flu. Well Yeah. Hey you know what I I will say one thing. That is such a gift with Corona virus is airline. Tickets are cheap right now. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. They are so cheap right now whether the debate I have The team debate and how Dr White in Salt Lake City is coming up in less than a month and Normally we drive to Salt Lake just to save it to save money for the ministry because we do a lot of minister out there with the Mormon temple or more. Yeah all evangelism and so. He's the drive because the plane tickets. It'd be like you know three four fifty somewhere around there right now. Tickets to Salt Lake City or seventy five dollars round trip for us. So we might. We might be flying. Yeah so speaking of Dr White. We need all the sordid details. What would you like to know? We saw James White break like well. Yeah I was Kinda thinking we just cut it somewhere but yeah we didn't because where we're at but still we're GONNA go into our subscriber exclusive now and Jeff. Durbin has the dirty details about James White everywhere. White also WANNA know Like I I am curious more of your just stories of because I know that you have actually convinced some women's and I have abortions. I'd love to hear those actual. Yeah those kids that have actually lived because of that ministry Had something and because you're martial arts guy you gotTa have a couple times in your life where you actually been in real fight and when you're some real fights and also you've ever met Carmen so we're find out we're going to find out if Durbin has ever meant Carmen and don't spoil it Jeff but yeah we're gonNA find out and then you. You adopted a child that was saved from abortion. Also yes and we're going to hear about that hypocrite Nazi opposite of the way around consistent is their worldview guy before we go behind the pay wall to the subscriber. Fancy Pants Lounges era. Tell people where to find your daughter. You WON'T BE APOLOGY STUDIOS DOT COM and go to end abortion now dot com to get your church equipped to save lives. Cool all right. We'll do it coming. Up Next for Babylon be subscribers. Only for the elect the elector. Here's you can elect yourself in our version of your way. This is not a very good analogy. Listen this sounds weird first things first. How many people have you punched in the face? Yeah I always think like one day he would show up at a ugly sweater party. You know. It's an ugly sweater party instill win. It was at first a history creation that somebody has been peed on and they were just praising God so I'm like pleading with God like tell me like he wanted to do this and I'll do it but I don't know how it's possible in join this hard hitting interview. Become a Babylon be subscriber to hear the rest of this conversation. Go TO BABYLON DOT com slash plans for full length. Acid free podcasts. Kyle and Ethan would like to think Seth Dylan for paying the bills. Adam Ford for creating their job the other writers for tirelessly pitching headlines. 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Gerald Richard on the protests turning into riots and what should be happening to combat this volatile situation.

The Conservative Circus w/ James T. Harris

06:36 min | 5 months ago

Gerald Richard on the protests turning into riots and what should be happening to combat this volatile situation.

"You are listening to the conservative circus. I am your ringmaster James. T hairs. Gerald Richard. He's a passer with the ame. African Methodist Episcopal Church. He's served the public for nearly thirty five years as also an attorney by trade, he was a prosecutor before serving as assistant to the chief of police of the Phoenix police, department rich also served in the Arizona Attorney General's Office Anti Special Policy Advisor for law enforcement. We welcome to the center ring of the conservative circuits, pastor Gerald Richard, Passer, a former prosecutor and public defender I. Imagine you have a very you unique perspective what you're watching right now. Can you tell tell us through the eyes of a pastor what we're seeing? I Good Morning. It's so good to talk with you again. Through the eyes of a pastor I. Tell you what probably one of the best. Sermons that I've heard even with all of the and you and I talked about the divisiveness. Going on was one that was shared with US yesterday by Reverend. Judy Cato and it was based on love. and. She was talking about how with everything that is going on whether we look in the Old Testament or New Testament. There's one consistent message in that is. If we can love one another, we can get through this. And so through the eyes of a pastor, you're always concerned about the safety and welfare of Your congregation, but you're also concerned about the safety and welfare of your neighbors and so that would be. Probably the best way to put as far as through the eyes of the past. Will you know now get, have you put on your your your other cap because? Because you've been very involved in the city as a lawyer as someone who's worked with the police department with the. Department would be looking at. We aware that. When well when I wear that hat when I I, I must admit it takes even. Further to Not only. What I saw when I was growing up in nineteen, sixty eight after Dr King was killed, and we had the riots that occurred in Chicago and the one thing that I always said was that while I was with the Phoenix police, department and working with the community relations, and and the legal aspect of it I never wanted to see that again and thank God my watch that did not occur. Even with one of the largest demonstrations in the state history with over one hundred fifty thousand people marching in April Twenty six. And so when I see this, I know that there can be through proper planning and Communication and working. Working with the police and the community that you can have incredible demonstrations with no incidence and no arrest. I'm proud to say that I was with the Phoenix Police Department as the commission on the accreditation of Law Enforcement Agency said in twenty six. It's one of the best law enforcement agencies in the world and chief Jerry Williams is doing an incredible job as far as tried to. Work through all of this is going on right now. right now I. Tell you what is so disheartening because I saw when I went to Ferguson Missouri to the Action Assessment Doj, and that is to see where there has been destruction but James I saw something this morning that just absolutely blew me away, and that was the number of citizens that have come out especially those who are professional athletes who played on the collegiate level to clean up the city. to take those steps in order to I didn't see that. When I was in Ferguson, I didn't see that in nineteen, sixty eight, and so there's a certain balance that is going on here whereby individuals they may. Be Disgruntled and disheartened because of the destruction that has gone on, but there are just as many individuals of said I'm going to get up at five thirty or six o'clock in the morning and I'm going to go out there and I'm GONNA clean my city up because we are not going to stand for this as far as being a place that looks like it's a war zone. Richard is pastor. which is the pastor with the Ame of America African? Methodist Episcopal Church in the Center INC, other conservatives circuits. What you just set there? I mean gave me a little bit of a goosebumps. There's something different about this Basser what we're watching right now. I mean we got a lot of division going on in our country. and I but I. Think there's a few things that people can agree on that is Gerald. Floyd was murdered. I'm sorry. George for Floyd was murdered and there's no. There's no controversy about that what we're seeing as far as the reaction to it I, think it is causing people to realize you know what? We do need to do something about this, but we also have to do something about that. This disruption. We got to put things back together and only citizens going to be able to do it. And you know something that's interesting is that all of this is happening after we have gone through the worst pandemics in the history of mankind. Where individuals are coming, stepping out with mass going. On and all the cleaners that they have purchased themselves. And they're cleaning up the city. And that is that's that is phenomenal. I tell you it's really funny because you were saying George Floyd. Yes, he was murdered, and there have been on a lot of instances that have set a set off. riots throughout the United States. like I, said nothing to this magnitude that I've seen since king. But you've had the situation with Rodney. King you've had situations with other individuals that have occurred that have died in police custody that have kicked us off once again. I am I. Commend the Phoenix Police Department right now and the way that they have. Done their very best to. Work with the community as much as possible even under these trying times. and I'm I'm really hoping that we can continue to do that. I understand that. The East Valley, the chiefs of all come together in order to provide support to one another They've done that within the last forty eight hours, and that's something else. That has been quite commendable, but we have to deal with the issue at hand, and that is the systemic problems that we have been facing for years.

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Sam Stone on the Phoenix response to the riots plus Gov. Ducey placing a curfew for one week and the impact that choice will have.

The Conservative Circus w/ James T. Harris

07:06 min | 5 months ago

Sam Stone on the Phoenix response to the riots plus Gov. Ducey placing a curfew for one week and the impact that choice will have.

"Governor. ducey put out a curfew last night, saying that after eight o'clock a united basically allowed to be on the streets and given what happened in some of the communities are a lot of people. They kind of agree with that but alas. The protesters did not agree with it because they shirked the. The the curfew they're out and about they bag downtown downtown Phoenix last night. Reading little bit of problems in center ring, other conservative circus. We have SAM stone. He is the chief of staff for City Councilman Sal to Cisco and Sam. Last night we heard that if started out fairly peaceful, and then it kind of turned in the end. Is that true? Absolutely a mess. The history of these things James at least the last few days we've had you know hours very peaceful. Protesting which I certainly had a ton of respect for, and then it's gone to hell and. Thank goodness for the Phoenix Police Department and the effort they did especially last night they stepped up in a big way. We had over two hundred and fifty. I think arrests the last two nights in downtown. They are taking these folks off the streets, and if you were out there. If you were saw any, you here uber driver someone still out last night. What you saw was the entire three thousand persons Phoenix police department on the streets in every single neighborhood, every commercial center and you wake up today to a city. That's still looks normal because of our police department contract. That's what's going on around this country. This is the right way to do. Things Jerry Williams police chief in Phoenix. Deserve a ton ton of credit. You don't stone. Stone I agree with you. She does deserve a ton of credit and she needs to hear from the community. Because strangely, I haven't heard too much for mayor Gago on on this whole issue, and this is a liberal round city, but for some reason we were blessed to have achieved Williams. Who really doesn't play and they're so professional in the pushback it it's it's it is gratifying to see my question is what will these people who are in jail be charged with will be. Will they be held responsible for the chaos? They've caused. That's the big question that still yet to be answered James Because the first night of these protests. We arrested just two people. And on some pretty significant charges, one of those in fact had a bunch of wars, and they got down to the jail, and the administrator just turned around and let him right out. and. A chance that we rearrested those same. People are pretty darn high. so we're waiting to see one of the things about the governor's order and I I have my questions about a week on lockdown, but one of the things about it is that it ups potential penalty you can face a fine of up to twenty five hundred dollars and six months in jail. You know we need to be parents simple if you're out there, looting rioting, if your lighting fires and causing damage and doing the things we've been seeing. We need to throw the book at. You need to go to jail. Can they stay there for a long time might question is how could it be? Why were they just released? Allow to sign out I mean what good does it do? If you go into arrest, two hundred people for looting for for violence, and then they're not going to be punished. You're not going to hold them accountable. That's that's that's crazy. I'm not putting that on. Chief Williams or do I need to WHO's responsible. Who made that call? No chance you definitely don't need to be putting. Matt Chief Williams. Putting out on the politicians at City Hall and the majority, the liberal majority, and it's what we've seen across this entire country for over a decade. Now they look on the. There's a liberal brand that looks on and TEPA, and cheer them on and has been doing it for a decade, and now's the real truth. The real face of MT is out in front of every American. They're trying to deflect the blame. What they have done for years is treat this group, which is a domestic terrorist group like they are legitimate protest group, and it is not. It needs to be treated differently there. There are people out there who are very legitimately protesting George Floyd and issues around policing in minority communities, and Tika is here to commit violence and throw this little boy, revolution of all these little white boys sitting in their basement, dreaming on the radical revolutionary. It really is a frightening thing to see, and you see how they tried to coop the movement and we're GONNA. Talk about that later on today's show, but but stamps. Are we talking to Sam Stone? He is the chief of staff for city councilman. There are at least two members of the city council who have been particularly unhelpful and our egging on as you just said are supporting and cheering the actions of these radicals and our streets. Well I, you know I wanna be clear we do. They are in and what they're not doing is differentiating between legitimate protesters and the troublemakers. The ones who are out there to do mischief and criminal damage destroy property threaten live. They're not defining the difference between those two and until they do that. Their protest is legitimate and the end of the story. It's just amazing to me that we elect people like this who are on the inside of the government now and they're helping. Create the chaos, Samson? What kind of effect is this having on the on police officers and also WANNA. Know what impacted this having on small businesses downtown? who were trying to reopen after the covert? The orders were lifted. Well. This is absolutely destroying all these small businesses James I mean they're struggling for all their work to to find a way to survive this thing. And now they're getting hit with these damages, and they can't have their businesses open it absolutely devastating, but the bigger point here that you just hit on, you know we had a from what I understand I'm hearing report that one of the Tucson City Council. Members was actually. With the the the people damaging property in downtown Tucson was actually out with them and we've. We've had council members here in Phoenix who have set out on their office letterhead statement saying Oh Phoenix police. Really reasonable measures are brutality and violence, and this is racism, but knox not done with this garbage, James we're done with it. It is time to take control of our country back. If there is a real problem and there is with policing in this country. Then let's address it meaningfully. You do not do that by lighting fire and causing damage and burning down at hurting people. That is ridiculous.

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35. Angela Simpson: Dont Be a Snitch

Reverie True Crime

29:51 min | 5 months ago

35. Angela Simpson: Dont Be a Snitch

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What's that sound that you hear from downstairs? Find Out by searching for thirteen wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to all the things that keep us up at night. And Phoenix Arizona August, two, thousand nine. A dismembered man was found in a burning dumpster in the parking lot of the covenant of Grace Church. The Fire Department was call to the church parking lot located at night and Peoria Avenue around five in the morning. What happened to him and who did it? Keep Listening At first the firefighters were on the scene, thinking they were going to put out a garbage dump fire. What they found as they were putting out the fire, they never would have expected. The firefighters spied. They're widening is a body inside the dumpster burned to a Chris. When the investigation I began, they were able to announce that the victim was a forty six year. Old White male had may have possibly been dismembered. As you can imagine. The members of the Church were stunned and horrified by the disturbing discovery in their dumpster. Pastor Leonard Griffin stated quote. It's upsetting to is. We are sad for the family of the victim. We have no idea who the person was or what the situation was. Were here as a lighthouse for the community to try to help spread the peace of God here. We just hope we can take this tragedy and try to turn it into something, positive and good for the community end quote. The night before this man's body was found in the. Don't stir. The church was holding an event at nine thirty PM. All the people who attended had a lot is an were accounted for the investigation was just getting started. Detectives didn't have much information to work with. They weren't sure how long this man's body was in the dumpster was he thrown in the dumpster and burned alive or was he killed before and then thrown in the dumpster and set on fire. What actually happened so many questions and no answers. The victim's name wasn't released at this point because they were waiting on him to be identified by relatives, but later that week they revealed that it was impact Terry neely he was identified from his fingerprints. Terry neely lived an assisted living facility, and he was handicapped, relying on his motorized wheelchair to get around. The surveillance video at the assisted living facility was. And it showed the last time Terry was seen alive was when he was exiting the facility on August second around eight PM. At the same time, this information is being made known. They released that it was a fact when they removed his body from the dumpster, he was partially dismembered. But. Who would want to do this and why? His motorized wheelchair that he couldn't get around without. It wasn't in or around the dumpster. It was nowhere to be found. The police were puzzled. The Phoenix police investigators asked the public that if they knew where Terry neely's motorized wheelchair was, or if they happen to find it to contact the Phoenix, police department also to contact them. If anyone had any information regarding who he was last seen with or knew anything at all, concerning Terry's death, the autopsy report comes back and to everyone's surprise. Terry had many blunt force head injuries as well as a nail about three inches long going into his brain, either by way of a power tool or hammer. He was stabbed fifty times. His throat sliced body dismembered. Terry's arms and legs were cut off. On, August nineteenth, two, thousand, nine the Phoenix, police arrested someone for Terry kneeling gruesome murder. thirty-three-year-old and Simpson admitted to it all. She was in jail at time for armed robbery and she decided tell what she had done on. Angela got Terry to go near Peoria and Twelfth Avenue to an apartment. She promised him that they would have sex and that she would have drugs for them to dabble in. Terry's temptation for sex and drugs with laid him down a path of an excruciating death. Angela had suspicions that he was a rat, a snitch, an informant for police. She hated a snitch. Apparently Terry for whatever reason bragged about being prison and snitching on some other inmates for this Angelo would make him pay. With his life. So Terry Wills into the apartment and Angela searched beating him relentlessly with a tire iron as well as a hammer. She had only just begun. Angela tortured, Terry over the course of three days, she didn't have any evidence of him being a Snitch, but what? She claimed that he told her was all she needed to justify this brutality her mind. Angela proceeds will each of his teeth out and rhapsody be cable around his neck, strangling him. She told the police that she in fact did dismember Terry and put him in a trash can. She says she borrowed a car by her sale and went to the church parking lot to dump his body and burn it. Later. There are questions as to whether she was truly alone and did all of this by herself that night. People question if one Edward. Mcfarland may have had anything to do with it. Angela and Edward better known as cracker committed robbery together the week prior to her confession. He even told his apartment complex manager. That Angela told him what she did to Terry Neely, but she threatened his life if he were to tell the police. My issue with this is Edward didn't tell the police who would have arrested Angela. She would have been locked up right away. Probably still would have emitted everything, but instead he took a chance on telling apartment manager. Who can't help him in any way. What would have happened if she found out that he read at her out to the apartment manager? Not only that, but the apartment manager doesn't even go to the police, not even anonymously or anything. I get that there's this unspoken role or maybe not so unspoken by some about being a rat a NARC snitch, but when it's to protect yourself your family, your community from things like this happening to you or someone you care about you need to do what is right? Call me crazy, but I'm not down with knowing. There's an unstable lunatic on the loose and were just going to keep quiet about the torture and dismemberment of a living being. Angela Simpson while in jail was interviewed by me. wingate three TV a lot of us have seen and heard this issue, but it never fails to make my jaw drop. Why. I don't want Miam-. Children are the people I consider family to be in a place where there are snatches we down for a jailhouse interview with thirty-three-year-old. Angela Simpson the woman accused of mutilating and dismembering Terry Nilly. My Man Simpson says she barely knew he lived down the street in an assisted living home, but often wrote around in his motorized wheelchair. A man Simpson considered a snitch. He told the right person years ago. So! And he told me that, so, what did he do? What did you do to him? I killed him. How'd you do it? I beat him to death. For how long. How long did I beat them forty five minutes our. He was there for three days right? Yes, what did you do during that time why? killed him up. Just point to US shows where it happened, we went to the vacant apartments. And took an exclusive look inside the murder scene. In full that we've found the carpets, rips and Bleach Simpson, says she used to clean the blood after hammering a three inch nail into neely's brain. Did you pull out his teeth? Did you put a hammer into his head? Put a nail in his brain. Yes, was he alive during this some of it? Was He watching looking at a mirror? Yes, why did you do that? Because wanted him to see what he deserves. She says she made him. Watch through this mirror and Liz. It's the first time you've done this. Is Not the first time. What else have you done? That's not. But you've killed other people while they'll find that out. Will You admit that? You've killed other people oh. Yes, you've killed other people. How many that's relevant. Why did you kill them? Same reason well. Simpson doesn't consider herself a serial killer. She claims she's killed a few. I believe informants and Todd Lester should be killed period. Ask for nearly she tells us. She lured him inside offering drugs and sex, then after three days of torture dumped his burnt body in this trash can. And when police tracked back the Simpson, she was already in jail, accused of an armed robbery the day after the murder and her reaction I'd relieved actually why reliefs because finally. Finally what? Now I just. Finally they caught you. Yes, because you've been doing this for a while, yeah, for how long Awhile Simpson admits, she takes medication and might be considered mentally ill. You think something's wrong with you. I think something's wrong with the world that I live in, but according to other people. Yes, something, something's wrong with me as for something being wrong with murdering to neely Angela do feel guilty. Guilty! For ridding the world of now, I don't feel guilty. Simpson wouldn't allow on the other motor. She claims she's committed. But when we asked her what she would want to say to the families of the victims, she said quote they shouldn't have read what they read in. Phoenix Maria wingate for Fox eleven news. Hi I'm Kathy I'm tiffany. And where the house of happy hour gets weird on our podcast, and we talk all things weird like ufo's bigfoot, astrology ghosts, and even true crime and every episode we create fabulous new cocktail. If you're looking for a little weirdness, please search happy are gets weird on your favorite podcast platform. Cheers cheers to that. Angeles charged with first degree murder, kidnapping and abandonment or hiding dead body on August twenty seventh, two thousand nine. Police, said that Terry wasn't a snitch for them at all. It confuses me as to why anyone would boast about being a snitch in the first place. Let alone lie about it. Maybe he was trying to impress her in a weird way if he even did say that at all. Or maybe the police are not being honest. Who knows? At the end of the day, we know people should not murder others. So at this point thirty six year old Edward McFarland was taken into custody. He allegedly helped Angela at Terry's body into the dumpster. A witness came forward and ended up making a phone call to the police department after they saw a motorized wheelchair at an apartment complex close by. The complex was investigated and it was discovered in one of the apartments. There were blood stains all over the place, and the carpet was ripped up and gone. The investigators took blood samples from the bloodstains in the apartment, which did match up with Terry's police were told by a witness that they in fact saw clouds of smoke coming out of the apartment. The witness made their way into the apartment where there was a city of Phoenix. Garbage can in the kitchen and the contents in it had been burning. The witness didn't stick around to investigate any further. The same witness claims the man they call cracker Edward and Angela. Ask to borrow his car. When they returned with the car Angela told this witness what she did to Terry neely. She threatened the witness to do the same to them if they were to breathe a word of it. On September eighth, two thousand nine Angela, Simpson was to go before the judge at Maricopa County, Superior Court to receive her sentence. March twenty second of two thousand Twelve Angela pled guilty to murder in the first degree, an armed robbery. She was sentenced by Judge Paul. It murdy to life in prison plus an extra fourteen years for additional charges. Days, before her sentencing Mike, what is of three TV interviewed Angela and Schumer cans some of her statements in last interview. I've seen previous interviews with the police and I'm one of our colleagues talking once upon a time. Year very upfront. Much about talking about this killing right, you murdered this man. Yes, you tortured him. Of course there is no ambiguity and there is nothing you want us yet. In court today, you said. You're not here to pretend to be remorseful. Question that. Why would I do that? Are you remorseful not at all why? Why. Why would I be well? Why? Why did this man deserves to die? You claimed he was. Well rookie you have of. He told me he was. On many occasions, but that really doesn't matter. Why did YOU GUYS WANNA kill? Me Phoenix wanted to kill me. What's the difference? Everybody has a reason to kill. My reason might not be good to you, but your reason wasn't good to me. So. Incidents. Can you tell me anything about what happened those three days? What? I took him to my house. Walked down the street I don't know why the media acts like motherfucker couldn't walk. He walked very well. Walk him upstairs kicked. His ass killed him. And advocate your belief is that he was a Snitch, because right whole Jew. You claims that that other people were killed. In that same, you would kill other people. Have you killed now? I've never killed anyone else, so that was something. Talk, right? How do you feel about this? You know I got a lot of family in prison and. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that I got many sisters in prison. I can't wait to see him. It's really not that much of a punishment. Be Sentenced to spend my life with my family. And you don't WanNa talk about your your past. Your lawyer said that you know what the in sentencing you. The judge should bear in my head. Right or fly, I started being hospitalized at ten years old. I have a mental history from ten years old till present so. When you say mental history. You. Did you care that anyone feel sorry for you. Want any feel sorry for me. Yeah, you should should the people who are watching this say because she had a bad child or I? She had as mental illness course not now. We should feel some sympathy for now. You would not have that. I want now sympathy now. What. Do you care what anybody thinks now. Angeles Simpson one out I doubt. It's a again your candor. I've interviewed people who've committed murders before, and usually they sorta prevaricate or the this or that. You're about as direct as it gets right. Why is it? It's only fair. I expect you to be the same way. I do think that it was fair today. It was justice in that courtroom. Now I don't. Why I should have gotten the death penalty. You. Did you want the death penalty? Now now I'd prefer to spend my life with my sisters, but. Yeah I do believe that would have been justice. So. You deserve death penalty, but you're glad that you would you you. When you say your sister's. You're talking about women. You know in prison riot. Have you found that? There is some bonding, and then you have made friends here that. Will. Be of some comfort to you when you're definitely. What does the experience been like here? In this facility horrible really. Yes, it's terrible. Jealous Awful they don't They have no. While they they have no compassion. They don't give us the things we need here. Will Be. We'll prison to you to. The is certainly hope so yes. You're hoping that that will be a better existed. Yes, definitely, you're a young woman. Thirty six years old. You can be there a long time. Right. But your beliefs as you deserve the death penalty definitely. Well, I believe God. That's what God says unless God is wrong. which I doubt so. We're God would. told you that, or you just believe I, believe. Right. I expected to die for this. What can you want? What insights can you give us to to you What would you have the anyone who lived through this interview? Know about you. Has Really Nothing. People are going to believe what they want to believe. Judge the way they want to judge just like I do so. What why did you feel like you were in a position to be the judge and jury in Terry neely's life? I'm not sure. I'm really not trying to be. Angry, but I just want to say you're hurting. You say I killed. This guy deserved guy. Blah Blah Blah I mean it's Birdie. Ed's there. You're up. I want to know. If. You have any concerns about you know what what put you in that position to do that and it's just too much. The things he talked about it was just. Too Much, you believe him I mean lots of people go round and I'm a snitch or make really don't say well I'd take talk about. Neither I've got I know people. Come got associations with law enforcement. You know I've got this. Friend with this happened to have a list of those vague namedrop well. Maybe in, the circle. Rental say of things to make themselves while he picked the wrong nigger to say that, too, if he wanted to brag about putting so many people in prison. Tech the wrong person. That's what that's. What did it to him? That's what that's. What the bragging the Bra about putting people in prison. Right people. You knew now. Do you. Believe him. He really was a snitch. oops if he wasn't. Yes I believe he was. Your family. I do. From an adoptive family I have four children for children. I had to have. where? Rush. What is? How they doing and I was it for you to be separated. I one time I. Can Do. Is there. Is there a message? For what is there a bottom line or a lesson to be learned from the story of Angeles Simpson? Bottom line everything now. What would what is the bottom line is? Whatever people want it to be if I it doesn't matter what I say? Incites The you, you don't regret this. I. Don't regret killing him. Now I regret the fact that my co-defendants found it necessary to. Divulge so much information to the detectives I regret that they were people I really cared about. And I regret that they were. Near me or around me at any point. Help prosecutors help the prosecution correct, and they those definitely because they didn't know they weren't actually with during any of my crimes, so for them to say that they were to try to get lesser sentences. Was a little heartbreaking, so Fred's of yours lied to. Prosecutors lied to police the diamond. Correct snitched on, you correct. If you could. Would you do to them what you do now? I would not because you're still. Have some relationship with them well now, but they are. I had A. Claim to bond with them at one point so I I wouldn't be able to. Avenge that. Yeah. Did you. Act completely alone. Yes, definitely, nobody else helped now. Totally allowed. Helped me. Understand three you know I know the crimes of passion or something. You know in in the heat of the moment, but to spend three days. Driving nails into a guy's head and pulling his teeth out. Wide! Necessary. Did you find it pleasurable or Exciting or was there was this just a? Very necessary right Oh. This was more like a business like proposition you were doing. Something felt me a job that needed to be done. Right. Really Right. And whatever came to your head? I'M GONNA. Drive a nail into his arrows. This just was a symptom of what was at hand in that apartment. Right. Any. Your mom and I'd like to because we've gotta get run back and I want to get what you say on television and we again I'm grateful that you would be willing to talk to us and I wish you the best. Chances. What would you have the world now you're facil-. You're sort of an interesting character. You know reasonable women generally don't commit. Crimes this heinous right? This is usually the domain of men. That's unfortunate. You think more women equal opportunity definitely. And I know you're big sort who smart Aleck. Sarcastic, but but secondly I mean in some ways I've been covering murder and mayhem and covered serial killers to petty. Shoot em ups and. Made many women who commit the kind of calculated long-term murder. The you committed with this guy. and Many people are willing. Say I did it, and you know what deal with it right? So I should be. In my opinion, are you seem so you? You seem like you're sort of just is almost self righteous about? I did this and I think you did the right thing? Definitely. Other than shooting off. What else did he? Do you know that's not. That's what that's what he got done for. He's white trash. Somebody how to take it out. That's it. was there a racial component? There's always a racial component. What do you mean by? I'm not going to elaborate on that at all. But the fact that you're you're. A black woman and he's a white guy. That factored into your killing him. Yeah. I wouldn't kill another black individual. Would you if you had that moment lou? Tied, kept him alive a week. Tortured and killed at a tortured him for a week. Yeah, instant three days definitely. So you're only regret is the torture didn't go. Right and I regret not killing my other victim I shoulda killed him. I didn't have time I had to go somewhere. Joseph venturous for the armed robbery. I should kill him and I had to go. Will you get? If the opportunity arises I hope so. Okay let's we're done. Yeah. Good Shit. That's going to be crazy, isn't it? Look good, please. As long as The ending on, thank. You best wishes to you. Ladies, thank you thank you. Earn Real. I can't I honestly. incorrigible okay. Thank. Core were both in. Oddly enough enough as search and search for information on Edward McFarland to see if he was kept in jail, or what actually happened to him? 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The Lori Vallow Case: Who is Jason Mow?

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58:30 min | 2 months ago

The Lori Vallow Case: Who is Jason Mow?

"Hello, everyone, and welcome to a new episode of we saw the devil. This is Robin and this is Jackie and as promised today's episode is our deep dive on Jason Mao. Who Many of you may know as army veteran podcast, her ex Chandler Police Department in Phoenix police. Department veteran an LBS author LDS. and. Although he may or may not have retracted that statement of Laurie follow and Melanie Gab and doesn't he also know David Warwick he does he knows everyone including CIA Dave. Oh. So as promised, we decided you know we've already done Lori we done Chad and it was Zuma and we finally decided that it was Jason. Mouse turned his turn. He's been chosen through the real. He has today we will be deep diving into everything that we could find out for you guys as the veil wheel spend. As the veiled turns yes. That's better. I liked. Turns already. So let's get into some housekeeping really quick number one hour contest for best lifetime movie title is still up and going. 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As, you guys know variety of benefits, postcards, merged stickers, case of the month, add free episodes, patriots, only episodes, and as we said last week, you now have the option of doing an annual subscription and currently just until the end of this month, the end of August which is seven days. Now you can do that and get two months free. We absolutely love our patrons. We Love Our facebook group for our patrons and we have a block with them. Absolutely now, what else is happening towards them month robin not quite then to the world, but my l sat is approaching is how many days Rodman? To nine days from today nine days. Yeah. Some labor hit those. I know I'm scared guys. Practice US recently too I did I am studying hard. So if anything that we have has been a day late again, apologies I am taking a heinous test in a little over a week and I have been in the books. The books of eaten her. Pretty much already. Are you ready to talk about? Mel. Yes. All Right Richard Jackson Mao. Is Fifty one years old, and he currently a appears to live in Chandler. Arizona? His parents were Richard Georgian Sandra Dee. His first wife's name was Linda Maiden name harms and she was or is a police officer Arizona for the Phoenix Police Department. Now, the reason was or is is because doing the background checks and whatnot looks like we can only find information as current as eighteen. Now, we have been through Jason Miles facebook, all family accounts and Social Media Council. We can find the odd part about it guy says that Linda has been scrubbed. From everything do you find it to be a little odd that these nowhere to be found, but you can't find or even on her kids social media? No I do actually I find that to be a little weird. So on GSA miles account, there is actually one picture that we were able to find with Linda and it's a picture of Jason. Linda. Their kids with John McCain and his wife she even looks unhappy there. She looks miserable. Let everyone in the entire photo looks absolutely beyond miserable and we're not even talking awkward family does it's more. Angry family photos Kim. This tall. Angry family photo doing research and whatnot. It has been stated that Jason How did Mika facebook post badmouthing Linda claiming that she left him when he was injured but we did not see that with our own eyes. Jason Mouse facebook page goes from November of two, thousand twelve and then just randomly skips to May of two thousand thirteen only know that they divorce. It actually took US quite a while to even determine whether Linda whistle or not because she's just as jockey said, not present on any of their children's social media accounts however, I did manage to find lenses, instagram and Linda. If you somehow see this or you're listening, you're photography is really pretty but that's all it is is very generic instagram beautiful photography. That's that's pretty much it. That's all the information that we have for Linda. She piece out of the equation she's probably living a better life without. Taking beautiful photos enjoying life the. John McCain photo not included there have been no public accounts of information regarding Jason Mao in his teenage or early twenties anything like that. Like nothing right one such Ford said they knew him obviously he's older has facebook page doesn't go back far. All we do know is that after he served a mission for the LDS church, he ended up joining the army he was an alien right made by the government. And then joined the army was manufactured for the army that being said, let's talk about his military record. Here's a clip of Jason Mount telling you who he has and introducing himself. So we're going to also read this from his own biography and then break it down a couple years ago I was serving as A. Government contractor in Afghanistan. And while I was serving there, I was having a hard time. Dealing with the emotions of combat. Trying to understand how I was feeling. And I was frustrated because it was a forty year old man. With twenty years experience as a paratrooper sniper. Two Separate Swat teams, working undercover narcotics, all of these amazing things that I'm done, and I was still feeling the effects of combat. So now Jason also claim to be a sniper, the SEALS CC in army rangers all have sniper elements in their units, and although they all have their respective sniper schools but there's another one and that would be the marine. Corps, he was not a marine he was not a marine he was in the army and he was not an army ranger. He was just a generic police military police officer and he happened to just go probably you know maybe he did do airborne school but not airborne assault airborne school. So he did a few jumps and then probably never did it again. Here's the thing is that I could sit here and be like, oh, there's so much proof that he did airborne assault but as I was looking at his dress uniform I don't see that badge I only see the badge for parachute is yeah. Well, yes in regular. Airborne, an airborne assault or two different things everyone muscle is. Way More rigorous airborne school and airborne school. You're just attached to a parachute and you're solely lifted up over and over again as you go higher and higher, and then you have to do like a few jumps from the airplane. It's a three week school versus Aerosol is just way more rigorous a lot of rock marching and stuff like that. Very different things very different things. I don't see. The proof is what I'm really trying to get I, don't see any proof to back the finance of him saying, Hey, I, I, was airborne assault. I was a sniper this thought you know, and now let's talk about his claim to have been a sniper. He is very proud of his time at as an s RT team leader. Now, what is isn't s RT s T. stands for special reaction team there have been violent incidents and terrorist attacks and things like that, and the US Air Force actually had its own team they called it a security police emergency services team or es At Lackland Air Force Base. So the army ended up sending their military police to lackland to attend and go through that course it was very successful. So then the army decided to implement and create its own special reaction team and think of a thing of s rt as more or less the army's version of a civilian SWAT team. You know Jason does claim that he was a swat team leader and whatnot I'm unsure about his time as a police officer with Swat. But in fact s RT is more or less version of a SWAT team here is the thing his claim that he's a sniper he did not go to sniper school. He had no formal training that we can prove that he is a sniper. He's not a ranger most our interests will go through something called Rasp or you know I, it stands for something it's not relevant but just know that the likelihood of him being a sniper is very, very low and I can't tell you how many people I've personally met who are like, yeah. I was a sniper for the marines or I was this and that. They were not and it's actually it's actually alarming gene how the Pe-, there's a lot of people who make these outrageous claims right and I think about on this perspective as a person when we look at somebody as an overall person, we taken the credibility of what they say is whether or not they're credible. So you look scope with no bias and I'm looking at. This I'm like, ok, where's the proof? Where is the proof that he did this? So for the SR T unit that he has on his resume SR, teas are basically deployed in the event that something is beyond the military police. So he served again in the Sixteenth Military Police Brigade as an MP and s our tease basically would be deployed if it was too much. For -YMPIA. So hostage situations, counter-terrorist barricaded criminals, sniper incidents, high-risk searches if someone or a member of military member threatens suicide or a mentally disturbed person barricaded themselves in the barracks, things like that, and it usually has a team of at least nine people. Now, the s RT leader, and this is from armies website. The S RT leader team lead has a rank of E. Six or above and remind me why rank with he e five and I wonder when he actually obtained that rank during his contract see and here's the thing. So it is possible that he did take a marksman class for SAT. It's called marksman observers and that's more or less snipers and they intend a separate one week long training course. Here's the thing though fiber school. Course it's of course, that's all it is to one week course it's not sniper school. The long story short is that he didn't go to sniper school to my knowledge for anything that we have read his brigade the sixteenth military police grade is not a sniper. It's not the seventy fifth ranger regiment like sniper regimen either so that's a very specific. First. Neighbors in the army and that's it pretty much. It's very rare to be anything outside of that from Mel's website after serving a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day, Saints Jason joined the US Army and served as a paratrooper. He advanced to the rings to the position of team sergeant for the army's elite special reactions team he has experienced in training and joint counternarcotics, operations, protective services, counter-terrorism weapons, and tactics, trainings, and deployments to hostile areas. In other words, you play politial are playing video games. I'm just going. So what we know that he joined the army when he was twenty two. Years old and he was in the military from nineteen ninety, one to nineteen, Ninety, eight in a military police brigade. We actually spoke with someone who also has military contractor experience and we will get their input on all of us, but they did find a couple definitions and what certain brigades are, and so forth jobs he explained that in combat military police do not go to the frontlines he says that they stay and protect the rear after the infantry has cleared it. So they basically just protect what they call soft targets like hospitals, supply depots, things like that. It's like basically a security firm in the. Video that Jason Maui has posted to his website he says that he led soldiers into combat and our source said from where thirty miles behind where safe if you've heard about Jason Modal, you realize that he also claims to have been a paratrooper. He screams this from every rooftop, the every building that he goes into and our source said, he's what we call a five jump chump. He never had another airborne experience after graduating jump school, and after doing a little research, you must perform five actual jumps to graduate airborne school. Hence, the five jumped chump he did the five jumps he graduated the school and then. Never. Did it again now, there's as regular airborne school and then there's airborne assault school. He tries to claim that he was airborne assault. He was just regular airborne bright. Yep that is correct. He didn't do anything. So also Mel's unit did not deploy to combat until two, thousand six, and then that units previous deployment ended in nineteen ninety. So if you do the math Jason how joined in Nineteen ninety-one, so he most definitely didn't ever lead any troops into combat where like where would he have done it using the military from ninety one to ninety eight and a Military Police Brigade the Sixteenth Military Police Brigade. Or something he's Boise or maybe he's a joint fires specialists and he's like home the shots and this guy is military police asking for your I d at the gates of obeys. Yes that is that is exactly Oh, what a hero. From, his website. So this is from Jason Miles website of the workshop dot Com in two thousand and six Jason took time off from his law enforcement career and worked as a civilian contractor for the US government enough Ghanistan he worked at the National Police Academy in Herat Afghanistan lead instructor Jason also worked as the personal mentor for law enforcement operations to several regional Afghan government officials. Embedded with the US, army and traveled with small specialized teams of soldiers to remote locations throughout Afghanistan. Again, our source says he claims he was working as a contractor looks like this was through a civilian contracting agency called in core. He says that after a rocket attack on his face now this has become the single most. The biggest thing that he says, you know I was inspired to write my books after this attack. So he says after a rocket attack on his base in Harare he turned to the Scriptures and found comfort in reading about the experiences of Captain Maroon I he wrote the scenes as they played out in his mind. Throughout his time they're the only combat experience he had was basically hiding in the camp in Harare while the actual combat centric contractor team led counteroffensive. Okay. Also from our source and I'm just GonNa read their direct quote on all of this. Now, a gun, the source is in the old yesterday and they have a very widely and long-term and decorated military record. So I'm going to read this directly from them. I heard him talk about being in Harare that exaggerating his duty enroll their how do I know this because his kind worked for me at one time all I know is he's opposing who likes to Lark the book. Of Mormon and tell fourteen year old kids that they'll be killing people sued for God and that he will be there fearless leader while they do. So he saved no one according to him made the rank of E. Five, which is pretty damn low for being end for eight years. The show you the scale I made e five and three years. The average soldier is solid in the e six and seven years you want me to tell you what he did during his time in the military did not earn any combat time. So you use the opportunity of divine core hiring civilians to go out to Afghanistan for one year. He did that for one year just to get the street credit, he needed to create his lies in order to sell his lies. That's a pretty strong statement Yup, and this is from a longtime member of the military. So let's read more of Jason's bio from his Amazon page. Jason served on a Joint Federal Counter Narcotics Task Force worked as a personal bodyguard for foreign heads of. State and high-ranking military members, and as a combat team leader deployed hostile areas in support of America's interests overseas, it continues the culmination of his military career came when he was chosen to be one of the team sergeants for the army s rt that stands for special reaction team an elite unit tasked with conducting hostage rescue missions and counter terrorism operations. His Bio continued Oh my God. In two thousand and six Jason was recruited by the US State Department to good Afghanistan and work as a civilian contractor for the International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Program. So it was explained to us that these recruiters are desperate. They have a hard time meeting quota to send to Afghanistan to begin with the Department of Defense literally dumps money at military contractors like this, just to have bodies to send over there. So saying that you were recruited is actually not as prestigious. Mao is making it. You know sound, they're desperate. They don't have the numbers and so anyone who knows basically how to shoot a gun has any sort of military or law enforcement experience they welcome them and follow over those themselves to get them over there. He was an instructor in Herat where he was protected by the compound security and security detail that traveled. With the rest of the civilian contractors, Qigong did nothing heroic during his tour the only combat experience he had was literally hiding in his camp while again, the assault and the offensive team's the those contractors actually did any sort of heavy lifting and all of this information can be verified two guys. So don't take our word for it if you do even just. A little bit of research. It took us a couple of hours. So let's move onto his police experience whereas because this will become more of a tie in with Lori and Melanie. Gabe. Jason was a police officer in Chandler. Arizona until he resigned in two thousand six before an internal affairs investigation could be conducted. That's kind of your first red flag he was. In his third ninety day evaluation period and his superior said that his performance was basically sloppy and below level, he was also accused of sloppy report writing apparently his reports were all too short did not include all of the necessary information or detail. Maybe they were kind of limited by third grade writing the rates. Now we did find an east. Valley Tribune. Article. That actually details Jason's firing. A lot of people think that he had a partner. He was also fired from what we've been able to determine. No. The article basically talks about it just list the things that were happening at that time. Right and one police officer pull the woman over to ask her on a date he got canned and then underneath added actually. Starts talking about Jason now, how he got, he retired he resigned right and it actually does talk about Jason did received many commendations. So in two thousand and five, he received the Community Service Award for providing emergency aid to Hurricane Katrina victims. In the Gulf coast, he uses vacation time in paid for the whole trip himself which I am from Nashville. I. Was living in Nashville. When Hurricane Katrina happened I was actually doing nine one one at that time and a bunch of people from our center went down to Katrina and they came back and they were just shells of them of humans. We all things that they witnessed. So I do have to commend you mouth for actually doing that I can't you know the Things that that people saw while they were there things that no human should ever really expect to see in doing it all on his education time and paying the trip himself like you know that bus definitely That's your. There's some credit where credit's due. He also apparently saved someone from a burning car while off duty, but he was also reprimanded a lot. And he was also in trouble a lot. He just wasn't very good at his job. It seems it seems like he has a pattern of behavior here that we're following. So yeah. So it seems like he'd Jason Mao has a bit of an entitlement issue. Would you call it narcissism Oh big time nurses as this article was written in two, thousand, September of two, thousand and six, and so the article says in May Mauer's reprimanded for being disrespectful toward a supervisor. He was also reprimanded in two thousand and two for entering a business and failing to identify himself as an officer Apparently, he was in trouble a couple of other times hence, why he was on another on his third ninety day evaluation period at the time of his firing, then he went to the Phoenix Police Department and. He worked with Phoenix until July of twenty seventeen. Now from what we've been able to piece together, he was actually fired from the Phoenix Department for not going to work while he was out injured with a double hamstring injury during this time is when we suspect based on rumors of a facebook post that his wife Linda left him, he fought this sued the Phoenix apartment and a lot of people in true crime underground and Christmas misery have hosted the lawsuit he actually thought that and was able to retire comeback, retire and receive those benefits. On, October eighteenth two thousand eighteen jason filled a lawsuit against the city of Phoenix again, please correct me if I'm wrong in this, he was receiving thirty, six, hundred dollars a month in his for his pension, the Phoenix Police Department believe that has hamstring injuries were pre existing and he was fighting for disability benefits. Now, I do know that police departments are horrible about letting people get injured and then say oh well, we're not paying for that that was existing so. Who knows Jason also gave us a little bit of a glimpse into his head when he talked about PTSD in Zona News twelve article this article was written March thirteenth of to thousand and nineteen and Jason on here says. I personally have watched my friends die seen children that have been raped to death it all started to come back. Do you think that's true you personally I mean he's he's talking about his you know what he's talking about here is post traumatic stress disorder is plaguing law enforcement, and so this article is basically about a group of officers who got together and founded a organization to basically help educate people that members of law enforcement are very prone to ptsd in that they have support. But he also says this organization is pistol post incident stress and trauma and law enforcement and Mao in this article said. pestle is to help educate people so that this conversation can continue and we can finally work through the legislature to provide the support that these officers need and I do think that that is a great a great organization on a great fight to fight. Now, the interesting piece though is that it's rumored I've seen it floating around a gun unsubstantiated, but I have to say it because so many people are discussing it is that Zulema was actually involved in Pestle in some way and you think about they mom formerly. I don't know Jason News Allama. It's unsubstantiated and multiple people are saying that Zuma did work and volunteer with pestle. So Yeah I. Find that to be really interesting but he did give us a little glimpse inside of his head and he apparently has seen an experience Salat. He was also another podcast I don't have it in front of me guys but he went on another guys podcast and is believe another veterans podcast and he talks about PTSD from his time in the military. And how he had a hard time his hamstring injury he was starting to get really depressed mostly officers have. Yeah. Definite. So I completely that's why I think that that's a great organization that he that he worked for speaking on behalf. So I can't I can't discredit him or on him for for working with that. That's a great 'cause. Also Jason claim that he was targeted by the Chandler Police Department before he before he resigned, he was basically about to get fired there are about to do. Investigation into him right remember and then he resigned before they fired him. So he claims that he was targeted by Chandler Police Department because he was exposing corruption. And then they also saw he also claimed that the Chandler Police Department was trying to mess with his contract with an independent contractor job. I highly doubt there must this contract? Why would the police department care about him volunteering for a state? Department job? They want and no I mean correct me if I'm wrong right let's just move on. There's another piece that this is this is something guys I'm not GonNa lie this is actually driven me. Batty, since I saw everyone talking about nonstop Jason Mel was the safety coordinator and an actor in the horror movie that's about kids who disappear and then come back and they're basically possessed. It's called a speak. No evil. Can we please I will pay? You will pay each and every wanted to you to just stop going off deepened about this with the sensationalism. It is a movie. It is a low budget crappy little horror movie that took place in the Zona Desert. Can we not read more into this but I will stand on the devil shoulder and say yes, absolutely. This is that Robin you're wrong. I'll make almost all I watch is either you know historical drama or hormone vs that's pretty much it. God forbid if something were to happen to me and then someone looked up my movie queue or something, and even like I don't know I just need to so ridiculous I think could thing I'll stand on the other side Robin you. You can complain about it all day long but I'll say, maybe this this case is crazy enough to where nothing's off the table. That's true but it's a movie. A movie. Yeah. But they're also calling children's zombies and killing them. I mean that's something out of a movie saying and I'm kidding I literally asking you to stop everyone's obviously free to believe what they wish. Maybe I'm naive one here, but I just feel like that is so out of my field. So let's go to his personal life like more recent juice amount remarried to a woman named Nicky would and she's forty seven years old and they got married in July of two thousand sixteen and she's the one I mean she's in literally almost every single facebook photo and facebook post he makes. So. Very very very public and an interesting piece is that Jason Maoz engagement video because he hired someone to shoot his engagement video because he did it in public he attention. Pay attention to me pay attention to me. His engagement video was shot by Nicole Baena. The nearing about doesn't it? That's because that's Gabe Bonilla's wife Oh gay Baena sounds familiar. You may know him because that was Charles Values friend and bishop and the person that he called multiple times and references multiple times during fights with Lori Valo and also his own contact with police. Jason Mao and Gabunia were not only best friends but they were business associates Gabe Baena actually illustrates Jason Maoz Bucks a little too many too many connections here a little too much coincidence of how this guy is related or connected to Laurie Yeah exactly. This is where it all ties together and you for me I. We we all knew about I think. The most of US knew about this connection months ago and there's just something so devastating and heartbreaking when you watch chest CAM footage of Charles. Avello. Pleading with police and being like well, I'm GONNA talk to my Friend. Gave my friend Gable, my friend Gabe and you seem call Gabe, and then you know that gave is best friends with Jason. Mao. Who again is friends with Lori and Melanie Gab it goes full circle. It makes it not coincidental when the police actually don't respond to. Laurie follows threats that to me speaks more than we need to. Yeah that's gay Baena but the reason that I went down this rabbit hole is so Jason House engagement video was shot by Nicole Bonia and if you haven't seen it I, suggest that you do because it kind of gives you. A glimpse into Jason Mao and his mind, and he somehow made his engagement Kim asking Nicole to marry him. All Hem still is just so bizarre I'm surprised and try and jump airplane a right and God nell talk about his books as we just said, Gable Nia is the straighter Jason's Big Spiel. The reason why he's so well known in the LDS community is that he has a series of books mainly about Captain Moroni and getting ready for the end of days by being a warrior from his website it's described as the war chapter series is an epic fictional tale blending the compelling history, the war chapters of the book of Mormon with a tactical military insight of Jason Mao. The result is an exciting series that explores the deeper meaning in the wars and struggles both heroes and villains and provides greater insight into the sacrifices made by these Christian war heroes emphasis on fictional. Your emphasis on fictional but really this is just another plot form for Jason to. Verbal are phen- in leg. You just imagined characters. He is on character in a book come on and he actually remember don't forget the he multiple times. So the he truly Marrone I. Well, he certainly is getting a considerable amount of change because his books are very, very very well known there. It sold at the LDS bookstores and he sells them where he's consistently frequently going to all of these different conferences and you know that's why with him it's so difficult to nail down exactly when how, and why he met Melanie Gab or Chad debacle because they actually circulated and a lot of the same Marinez throughout the years I'm morally floored right now that nobody else has. Called him out for us. This is a shame. So that's primarily what he does now is you know every time you see him on an event he's book signings and reading, and he did the he's he's certainly trying to keep his military dream allies and he he he's risking his life by doing lectures I'm sure there's somebody just waiting few Google, Jason Mao of preparing people you actually find again Jason Mal was involved with preparing people. He was one of those authors along with day bell in fact. I'm looking directly currently on a July thirteenth twenty eighteen preparing a people kind of ad and says you all are welcome to attend. It's a free event, it starring Authors Chad Day Bell in Jason Now, and it took place at the Burke Basic Charter School in Mesa Arizona, and this is July thirteenth twenty eighteen. Now you know some of you may be saying was that when he met Chad the interesting. Part. Is that Jason Mouse writing books for a series of your number of years now, and it has been confirmed that he actually spoke at the school that Tammy. Day Bell was teaching out back in two thousand, fifteen Well, let's not forget that Jason Richard Jackson Mal I would like to call him Dick Right, but Richard Jason Moll has family Rexburg and blackfoot. So he he actually has roots there. We looked I found it. He has roots there. Did he meet? Tammy Tammy introduced herself to him and say Oh my my husband child's an author to did he just meet Chad at a at a preparing people event? Did he meet chat in the avow? Forums? It's a very small world and Roxburgh. Yeah it is I mean he doesn't even have to be in Rexburg to me. This is a small community L. D. S. author that community and the end of days staff is very small. A very small community to begin with relatively speaking right I think we can consciously draw together the pizzas. Another piece. Now, this isn't the most interesting or relevant, but Jason Mao was on the Board for the School Arches Academy now this isn't Arizona and. It's a charter school where they implemented his warrior. Ethos Program I. Kid you not he actually they actually implemented it as mission statement Oh. No here is their mission statement at Arch Academy based on Jason, Maoz, book, and I have a lot to say about this but. I am a warrior I do my duty I serve a cause greater than myself. I am accountable to my community and to my family for my actions I blame no one for my faults and give thanks for my abilities. I am governed by natural law. My mind does my most powerful weapon I train to oppose evil and all of its forms. I will never quit retreat or cower in the face of an enemy in my mom. I protect the week I assist the elderly and I care for those in need I strive for perfection s the same from those who serve with me. I lead by example and have the highest moral standard. The truth is my constant companion. When incomes, I will sing my warrior song in go to my reward with honor and dignity I. Am a warrior. Now this this is the worst three wording of soldiers create. I've ever heard in my life Yup you actually learn this when you go through army basic training actually before when you go and delayed entry program and this is something you should have memorized and so he took the wording of the soldiers create and rewarded into this shit show. And it's very easy to find. All you have to do is Google soldiers create and there's like photos of it and stuff I'm not gonNA recite it. You can read it yourself and be like why this guy is no creativity I mean I'm not saying what he has as you know moral values as bad per se and he's saying it's like Can you be not ripping off the army a little bit? Yeah. It's it is a site he was on the Board of Directors for Arches Academy right like his entire warrior ethos crap is now literally part of mission statement of a school. So when they announced on June Fifth Twenty nineteen that he is on the board of directors here is the Bio. Bio Clip that Arches Academy wrote about Jason Mao Jessica is one of our board of directors here at Arches Academy. He has a bachelor of Arts and education from northern Arizona University, but he's better known for his novels and motivational speaking which are heavily influenced by his history as a soldier in the US Army Training Swat units around the world in his time as a Phoenix police officer. In those capacities, he has created a highly successful small business, which he currently operates which has published the warrior ethos. While most of Mr, malls experience seems to be outside the feel of Education He, has leveraged his educational training to help him excel. He has elevated himself up through the ranks to the highest level of leadership in each segment of his career. No, he has not eaten. Nine is the highest. He has vast experience teaching training and motivating all ages including creating his own curriculum to do. So we are glad to be the only score Narayana to fully utilize this curriculum this year, and we're excited to have him personally oversee its implementation. Okay. So For Real. He started at the Chandler Police Department and literally literally had to quit because they're doing an internal investigation of him, and then he goes over to Phoenix and he gets in trouble with Phoenix, and then tries to bow out with his injuries, his double hamstring injuries, and then actually has a file a lawsuit against Phoenix lease. So like he hasn't risen through the ranks of anything no and you know a lot of people who do get their degrees actually if they really want to succeed in the military, they become officers. Yeah. Exactly. You know or they just end up accepting that they stayed enlisted and they try to strive to become an nine and they go through all their boards and stuff like that and don't forget that right when this case started not long after at. least new word, it went viral. The claims were the Jason Mao is the one who introduced Laurean Shod, and he's the one that told them that they were supposed to be married together in heaven while both of their spouses were still alive, and then yet another claim is that he held a secret temple ceremony to marry them together what acting like he was. MORONA. So it's just it's a lot. It's a lot of role playing same a lot of. Dungeons and Dragons Games. Yes. What exactly was Jason Mouth Involvement with Lori Chad Melanie Gabe, and where do we stand now? Don't forget that there is that youtube video of the police chest cam where Melanie tighly and Laurie go to talk to the Gilbert police, and this is where Lauria just had a big fight with Charles and she went to the police department to press charges. He stole her purse and he had just gotten back from Texas until forget. That, she had literally taken thirty, five thousand dollars out of his business savings account keeping you eventually keeping him from being able to pay people his own employees in leading to those employees suing him Charleston for purse all details aside though Laurie tighly, Melanie or sitting talking to the Gobert police and Laureus playing her well is, may you know routine batting? Her is the dum dum I'm sorry I'm GonNa Call It, Dom Gilbert police officer that's sitting in there. Talking to her and Melanie starts to say and she's talking and she's like well, I was just sitting somewhere and then I, I was driving and I just you know basically happen to see Jason Mao on the side of the road you know my police Jason how and we're going to play that audio clip for you right now of Melanie Gibbons. Casually name-dropping Jason in the Gilbert Police Department not so gullible. Not So Gullible Melanie Gab. Jason's. So, in the coming out with. Connie to go to the house and I pulled over by that full. And then I see this guy like just like our good friends justice just supply in front of me on the side of the road. Jason. Like hold August. Jason. Police. Guy. On My. Career. Wants going on, go down to the myself now. So beyond that after this case, really broke into the public view Jason Mao literally went. Radio Silent. So on July Twelfth Twenty nineteen now, this is one day after Charles value was shot and remember Charles Valley had a jeep wrangler that Kylie drive the day after Charles Value Shots Jason Mao made a post that said looking to buy a use four door jeep wrangler anyone know a guy. Although. That's not here. He is that not eerie at all. They always say there are no coincidences right so it just so weird. How did Jason Mao? No Laurie right because Lori is at the center of the case how did Jason Know Her in particular on the podcast and forget that Jason Melanie Gab and Maury to the podcast together and it is insanely boring and it's terrible and it's awful and I even edited. Yeah it's pretty bad. But when it comes to Laurie Jason, Mao said quote people don't even know who you are people in the know know who you are and we're going to go ahead and play a clip of that of their podcast right now also with us today is Laurie. And Laurie. Is. So. Cool Laurean I met in a very, very unique situation. And Real Quick Lori. Let's talk about that before we start because. People don't even know who you are or the people in the know know who you are. But he didn't know Laurie, right? I. Feel like the I work for the Lord. I feel like I have turned my life to him from circumstances that have happened to me in my life and I asked him who he wants me to meet who he needs me to go to and what he wants me to do, and I was sent to the temple on a certain day to get a message from someone. And In walked Jason, now. And when I looked at you when I looked into your eyes for the first time. And on really saw who you were inside. I instantly knew. You're one of us, you're a gatherer you know you you get it. You understand that there's something bigger going on here than just church on Sunday that this is this is this is the end times and and and you you are awake you are prepared you are moving in that direction and I saw that in just a just a half a second of that that brother and sister connection that we made and I just knew right away I had to get you in touch with Melanie. And we needed to tonette somehow. So she's one of the Lord and how some thing took her to the temple and random things happen that she's not actually going to divulge and she met Jason Sounds legit and Jason Malls current comments on it about he didn't know Laurie they weren't his friends. You sound a little friendly if you're calling and say if you're calling it a brother and sister connection my friend now some. People may not know too is that Lewis sister summer summer caulk Schiff let new of Jason Mouth Back. In two thousand, eighteen on a now deleted facebook post. She actually recommended his bug and linked to it on Youtube and don't forget and those magical dungeons and dragons. Documents is supposedly from Chad summer was designated light and her husband was light or borderline dark someone commented on one of summer's pictures and she said you should read this book. If you love Captain Moroni, this is an awesome insight into his life and leadership and. She posted a photo, Jason Mouse a hero rises now I do find it a little humorous. She said this is an awesome insight into his life in leadership as F-, it's not fictional how. So how's Jason Mel? You know we already have links from Jason Mount to Melanie Gab to Chad Day Abell to Laurie. They all knew each other after news broke and Laurie was arrested FBI taking the case like what what's going on now. So when the FBI was brought onto the case, one of the first tasks was to investigate. Jason Mao. Oh Gee I wonder why right, Fox News Ten from Phoenix Justin lump posted the original FBI emails were leaked and this one is from Wednesday December. Fourth of two, thousand nineteen and it says hi reducted regarding our earlier phone conversation on December fourth twenty eighteen laurie value in Melanie. Gibbs. Did A podcast Jason how this is lawry's first podcast Jason explains how the three of them came to be on a podcast together in southern that he met laureate. Temple and they had an instant connection. He knew she was a quote gatherer and had to connect her with Melanie. Gab. So again here Jason Takes Credit for introducing them. Mao. told his story of. How he came to believe in God and to the life, he loves today in the story he said he was a retired Phoenix police department officer and retired in two thousand seventeen. He talks about working in South Phoenix and was in a fight with a suspect when he was seriously injured detached hamstrings from the pelvis that sounds horrible ally. Let me know if you have any questions or in need anything additional sincerely redacted and then there's a second email to their corresponding until in and talking to one another, and you could actually see where they're fording information around and someone says so and so is reviewing more podcast not soothing by any means. They out. Yeah. That's not soothing. Even the FBI agents were over it. One person emails back and says, I started checks on mall but didn't get that far before I had to leave I'll dig more in the morning reducted started looking into some of the Info backed did sent over regarding the phone data they got from Melanie's phone I think she'll have more for on that tomorrow. The twiss keep coming I'm in the middle of the podcast from December of two thousand eighteen where Laurie mentions how suffering leads to salvation in that even though she doesn't want her kids to suffer she understands they have to in order to see the light that. Is Not sinister at all, not at all is a so and then below that someone said per Phoenix Police Department Homicide Sergeant Richard Mouth did work there but not for a long time, his full name per record is Richard Jason Mao gives us address victim of assault possibly in twenty eleven sounds like homicide sergeant is familiar with him because he was sleeping in the front of his car while he was supposed to be doing security for them as they were executing a search warrant, Phoenix Police Department will help with whatever on this. Do you mind looking into him a bit further? So. So they're saying he fell asleep on the job. Yeah, and he was even heating worked for them very long. Yeah. Completely, just he is a picture of success, Oh yes. So outside of that Jason has no, he's been doing what he's been doing since he left the Phoenix, police department he has been doing book signings speaking motivational speaking events. Polish has had to be Bryant abolishing head probably lopping out on the weekends guy as many of you also heard for months now, on September, Nineteenth Chad Day bell the. Week that supposedly JJ died Chad went down to Arizona No. We've also heard rumblings and rumors that the woman who claims that she sat on the plane with Chad and spoke to him where he said well, I'm GonNa go help somebody in Arizona with house work the she has since retracted her statement. Now that would make sense considering that Melanie Gabon David Warwick testified they saw Chad Day debacle. To four times over that weekends that Melanie Gibbons David were visiting them in Rexburg. I definitely to be. That's be interesting. I have searched very, very hard for the woman who allegedly made that claim although I have not found or substantiated that. But that weekend it is fact that a mouse had a conference in Montana the week that Jj went missing. So that was pretty interesting time. Now, speaking of just random rumors and whatnot, a strange post appeared on Reddit a couple months ago, and it sparked a literal firestorm in the rumor mill so not. Only did it pretty much claim that Brandon Boudreaux was seen drinking at a gay club in Phoenix on the weekends back in Twenty nineteen that Alex and Ian had been seen their together to the Alex had a crush on brandon and it's just not really sparked the gay rumors with. Brandon. But it also says that zoo Lamma her energy healing included conversion therapy and it claims that Alex went through Zuma's gay conversion therapy but then. Jason Mao also went through multiple therapy sessions Zulema but Jason's aren't specified to be gay conversion therapy. The Post says to quote it, Jason How went through multiple therapy sessions not specified to be conversion therapy with Zulema and they could be intense. Mala has a dark side that wrestles for control. Zulema called chat in as a second to assist her for one mouse therapy sessions in two thousand, nineteen Chad flew down to Arizona for. It so a lot of people are trying to determine if the if Chad's supposed- trip to Arizona that weekend that Jj died if he went down for like a day to assist with. Jason Mao. But the timing is odd because Jason Maoz also in Montana. However, things can overlap even a couple of hours. So who knows I find it now although since Chad's preliminary hearing Melanie Gab and David Warwick testified I, find it increasingly unlikely. So let's close it up guy like the last piece here and I find this just so ironic and beautiful that we know that Jason has known Melanie Gab Laurie Chad Debacle for years severally hairs, and after all of this went public, of course, people took it real life right in cases like this or murders or whatever you know that you will look them up. On facebook, you know victim perpetrator whatever you know use their facebook. So when this all hit, the fan people started scoping out Jason Mao and they started leaving her comments on like random pictures or post that he left public and so one person was like you all of them you're involved or why won't you make a statement that's really shady and Jason Mao replied. Wow Good morning troll fake news. They have never been my friends and if they did kill their kids I hope they burn in Hell sub leaving hearsay conjecture, unnamed source and outright lies. If you think I wasn't bald and you have proof then called the FBI one, eight, hundred call FBI's their national hotline or the only thing he didn't lie about. Was the number that's the only thing he did not lie about was FBI number also he misspelled everything. Everything was good report writing either no poor baby I. Graduate High School. I WANNA know. College. So he claims maybe that's a lie to. You Yeah. He did not know right difference between there and they are like, Oh, I say this every episode but like J. Mao is the ultimate Mariah Carey I don't even know her they weren't my friends meanwhile already played in this episode Mr Mile You gushing over Lori and we've known that you've traveled the same circuit and the same stuff which had your they're your friends so as far as just like the last couple six months or so a couple of months ago he was teaching LDS seminary and Logan Utah from everything that we can see now he's back in Arizona and not. Just some random. facebook. Jokes and memes here and there. Okay. So speculation time again, speculation time jockey How do you think Jason Bowels involved in this I think he tries Y-. This is crazy as the rest of them look at it we will get in I, look at use terms. Okay. How credible is this person as a witness and that's how police think about it. Right. When they hire you as a police officer, they're like, okay come this person hold up to the litmus test of will they be able to recall an account accurately and precisely when they're in the court right? Because they are the first witnesses to most things right this. Report and he wants to write the warrior ethos. He wants to rewrite the soldier's creed. He is discredited himself alone and then he there and he's like, Oh no, I'm supposed to believe that these people he left lane new and have on this podcast. He doesn't know I'm supposed to believe that he's credible way. No uh-huh. Oh, definitely not and all these weird connections of him being Montana during the next to Idaho very close to Idaho. During the time that GT went missing, how do we know he's not more deeply involved we don't that right there is like how come I would love to see his cell. Phone Ping I would love to see CASS actually get a hold of that and tell me that he wasn't involved in this because I have I have credibility issues with him period no big time he claims to make all these sacrifices and. Sacrifice anything we'll see more information is definitely going to come out on this. I can't trials we're GONNA find out so many juicy details and hot cups of tea and I cannot wait me personally I don't think I honestly do not think Jay involved really anything beyond maybe answering a few law enforcement questions for Laurie Melanie I don't know I don't I think that's very easy to dismiss him because he was a police officer. And, we know that no matter who you are and what you are no matter. What kind of unbiased you tried to apply into scenario like this it happens. And I think that he may be gone off a little bit easy I. Don't think there are doing enough. That's my personal opinion. Another post again read it's anonymous. So it's completely unsubstantiated A person did actually post and said, look I was married to Jason Mount Son and Jason was my father-in-law and I was not lds and he was creepy and would always try to pray and preach and I would even go to Church temple with them and he was you know really kind of forceful with his beliefs. He was very, very, very, very a right wing Republican and he would occasionally make comments about my body, your appearance. And he she this person also claims that he was very, very very in the prepping very propping, which does follow the narrative right with Lori Chad, melanie the rest of them. Yes. But you know honestly and everything that I've read. I just I don't think that he was involved in anything other than maybe assisting Laurie how to work law enforcement, how to act how to answer questions. Maybe even possibly throwing in a favor were getting a favor with Chandler police after Alex most likely after Charles was murdered. But okay, here's here's the thing. Okay and I I will completely counteract you and say what about the Chandler PD doing a favor for Jason Malphrus. Tells me the cops. Favors around for people must their family or the very invested in somebody time those favors don't come Whiteley. All right especially since he's been away from the force for awhile he hasn't been up. And how he left Chandler PD's come on I'm sure he has fronts and stuff but that doesn't mean anything. But that's a favor that he called him for somebody that he doesn't know supposedly, right. So tell me somebody who has a history of lying a history of over embellishing a history of misrepresent themselves is going to be the person that you say is involved in this when he's shown some involvement and he lied about it, I don't know we'll see it's you know speculation he definitely knew them though he was definitely in with them. He did multiple podcasts with them. He gushed over Lori and how wonderful she was maybe had a crush on her I I mean probably it seems like most men. Lorries orbit. No had a crush on her at least one to sleep with her and we all know that Lori. Bats her is to get whatever she wants clashes manipulate and we have heard through another source that it was Jason that. Lori. Actually had the kind of crush was an all of so I don't know guys. But if you have any other information on Jason, Mao please feel free to reach out to us. 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GSMC Book Review Podcast Episode 179: Interview with Steven Cooper

GSMC Book Review Podcast

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GSMC Book Review Podcast Episode 179: Interview with Steven Cooper

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Sarah and it's it's another another interview Tuesday so I hope you had a good week and good weekend and that your week so far is going well as I mentioned at the end of the last episode my interview today is with Stephen Cooper author of Valley of Shadows which is actually the third novel in his is Gus Parker and Alex Mills series. It is a mystery a thriller and the description is as follows a cop a psychic and a dead socialite who killed Vivica canning and where is the Dalai masterpiece that hung on the wall of her estate so many people people had a motive Phoenix Detective Alex Mills is on the case with the help of his sometimes psychic Buddy Gus Parker. You won't find another do alike them and and once you hop on the wild ride you won't want to get off who will survive doomed flight over the Pacific who tried to blow up an art gallery who saw vivica canning as is a threat and shot her twice in the head those questions Hound Gusts and Alex as the case unravels. It's an art caper wrapped in a murder mystery. The Valley of the Sun that becomes a valley of shadows where everyone has something to hide and the truth lies beneath Phoenix elaborate of tunnels and dungeons. There's it a lot at stake for Gus and Alex with the case swirling all around them the future of Gus and his rock and roll girlfriend hangs in the balance for Alex chest of family loyalties altis as a health scare for his wife brings him to the breaking point okay so that's the description and it's kind of a lot right so there's a lot going on in in this book. I love that description. It's our caper wrapped up in a murder mystery. So you've got the element of the murder mystery. You've got the element of the stolen art. You've you've got the element of a police procedural and away with Alex being detective. You've got gusts as the psychic. You've got relationship issues. You've got this interwoven. vision that. Gus keeps having of a plane going down and what does that mean and how what what is he supposed to do about it. There's all these elements that at first glance might seem a little disparate and yet Stephen brings them all together in in this book. I like that. Gus and Alex work so well together their friends. They're also they're not exactly partners. It's a gust doesn't have a formal formal relationship with the police department but he does work with Alex and he is able to help him on some of his cases. This is as I said the third book in this series you can read it as a standalone novel. I did but as I was reading through it. You know there was definitely things. I'm like Oh. That's a I can tell that that's let's referencing one of the first books and I should look at you know I should read that one and and get more of that story because you get these little glimmers of what happened and how some of those relationships Asian ships have evolved and things that happened in the first cases et. CETERA and I'm sure you know as you read through those first two books you'll get to see more of a how Alex and gusts guesses relationship came to be in terms of their working together on these cases so if you are a fan of mystery if you're a fan of books with detectives or books with psychics or books with both then you may want to check out valley of shadows by Stephen Cooper but let's go ahead and get to that interview with Stephen so he can tell you more about the book and the series and writing in general thank you so much for joining me for the podcast. Oh It's a pleasure to be here. I am very happy to have you and happy too excited to talk about your new Book Valley of Shadows Before we get to the book and the theory though if you could share a little bit about yourself that would be great worst subject in the world talk about my it's hard because it's like when a book comes out you end up talking about yourself a lot so let me just say that. I'm a former investigator instigator reporter I have been writing fiction for a while now this is my third book the third in the series rather and and I am working on a new piece of fiction. We can talk about later but this is the third in the series and like I said I come from a journalism background. I started as a crime reporter and then became more of an investigative reporter as I moved across the country working at various news outlets. I not going to tell you how old I am but I've been writing for a long time and I guess if people really want to know how old I am they could find out you can find out anything now on the Internet so go have at it but regardless of my age. I'm young at heart as they say a act like a five year old around the house ways it. I'm not as disciplined about my writing as I should be but it gets door against Ed's. Dont really matters that's amazing because I can't imagine a five year old actually finishing a novel so you are a very progressive five year old. Five five year old has finished a few novels and it's because you know I do what you do to five zero to say. If you finish writing six thousand words today you get a cupcake Nice. Cupcakery were the best politely so this This Book Valley of Shadows is the third and the Gus Parker and Alex Mills series so since it is the third could you just give a little bit of an overview of the series itself maybe those first two books store and they don't have to be really read any specific order they don't jump off and start and stop front in any light linear sort of way but if you want more back story and more of an established sense of place that I would start with the first one desert desert remains but again there's no real progression except for the characters do grow in develop over time as you would expect them to over of course three books folks but the first two books they take place in Phoenix Arizona they all take place in Phoenix Arizona all the whole series does but the first two books really establish Phoenix as the setting and almost character in a way arm the desert word in its mystery itself is established in those first two books so by the time you're in the third book you really get it. You kind of get the the sort of vibe of what Phoenix is about in the desert in its secrets are all about so the first two books like the third pair are up Alice mills who is a homicide detective in the Phoenix Police Department and his good friend Gus Parker her who many people considered to be a psychic yet gusts is not quite sure about that I mean he he knows that he has these crazy weird visions in the super strange intuition about things he gets these vibes of these just just really just bizarre notions and they manifest and sometimes they're helpful. Alex in Alex's investigations of crime crime in the valley. Sometimes they're not helpful but they don't get to pick and choose these visions in these vibes just happened in August says to Alex. Hey man you know you might WanNa think about this. This is coming to me really strong and so the two of them team up off and on to investigate in cases homicides in the Valley of the Sun which is how I refer and how many people referred Phoenix although Oh there's a real darkness of course when you talk about crime on a beautiful sunny place like Phoenix you wouldn't expect there to be this dark underbelly but of course in any city in any place across the country. N- around the world there are sort of nefarious things going on and so we sort the plunge into those stories about murder and mayhem and these two guys are really my main protagonists throughout the stories as they uncover different clues in Hinson tried to track the killers now and so is then the third book is called Valley of Shadows. Is that in juxtaposition to you know people calling it the Valley of Sun. It is in a way it was certainly my intention footed out there that you know sometimes the darkest things happened in the brightest places right and and that's sort of the idea and I'm I I think it works because when I lived out there gorgeous every day and yet I was a reporter covering crime and and there's no way that you cover crime in not sense the the gathering darkness of humanity on when you're looking at body bags watching tax do their measurements on a crime scene. It's it's you know it really makes you think twice about humanity and so yeah I mean this is a long way to answer your question the book that's coming hanging out in a couple of weeks very much. Is that Jackson position. So what was your inspiration for the story well. I think I've always been somewhat fascinated by how money in power can corrupt and I say can corrupt 'cause doesn't always corrupt does not a cliche or stereotype that I'm talking about but in many cases you know I think let me say I think we think of crime as you know down in boarding inbreeding and short of a lower like level of society in sort of the underbelly but sometimes you know some of them were heinous. Crimes are are committed by the most powerful wealthy and influential people in a society. It always been fascinated by how you know. The media portrays certain criminals Bertha's you know other criminals and I guess what I'm trying to say is that you know when you look at the average newscast in America and you see you know crime crime. I am crime crime crime. It often focuses on the minority population in what's going on in their neighborhoods and I guess I'm here to say it happens in all neighborhoods it happened in in some of the most you know some of the wealthiest some of the socially higher we are climbing neighborhoods in our culture. It's just that I think It's it tends to get Kinda glamorized rather than treated in much the the same way that your everyday crime gets treated. It's considered sensational when it happens to wealthy people where you know what murder here is murder. Crime is crime. Death is death doesn't really matter what's in your checking account right right and I don't know if the recording picked it up but I do. I have to say that it was very appropriate that there was a siren going off behind you while you were talking about crime s right. I live in the big city man as yeah. It was perfect timing. It doesn't even to me. I don't even hear it. I really I honestly I don't even hear it because because of all the cities that I've lived in across the country in of all the Crime Mike covered. It's just like a wash somebody you have mentioned Aleksandras who are the main character of the series What about them. Do you think might resonate with readers. I think what resonates mostly with raiders. I'm telling you what I heard from readers. Okay I mean. I know that I when I when I when I work with these guys. I really hope that they resonate with readers as just regular people but that's what I'm hearing back from readers as well that these are guys they can relate to because they're just regular guys you know. Alex is a cop but he's also a family man. You know he's not one of those cliches leash as you know the jaded crusty cop who drinks too much it. Can you know can't keep his marriage together. He's the opposite is a really good hug. Ben At he's really good father and he has all those challenges of family life alongside the challenges of being a detective given performing in that role. He's just a regular guy. Dealing with WHO pays taxes in. He you know has to pay for his kids college. Tuition uh-huh and gus is like this aging surfer dude you know he and I say that acknowledging knowledge in the fact that there's not a lot of surfing to do in the desert but he you know he spent a lot of time in southern California before he moved to the desert desert and so he did he spent a lot of time on the ocean and so he still thinks like a surfer guy. He's still very much. You know low key. He laid back very kind of Zen about most things and so they work really well off each other. I think that resonates with readers their their teamwork is sort of union. Yang and each of them are very accessible people because there's just sort of a real honest list to them even though gus has a very unreal aspect to him with his visions in his gifts. That seem really out there. He's a very regular guy. He holds down another job. I'm going to jump in here so we can take our first break of the podcast but I just wanted to follow up on what Stephen was saying about. gusts being a regular guy and he is a regular guy. He's a regular guy who happens to also have some psychic abilities but he even gusts is not quite sure what he's supposed to do with those or what he's supposed to make of those. I really appreciated that. He wasn't necessarily just a caricature. Uh of someone who's supposed to be psychic in this book but he is presented as a complete character a complete person and I really did as I said appreciate appreciate that about his character so we are going to take a break and when we come back we'll be talking more about valley of shadows with Stephen Cooper so stay tuned you're listening to the GMC Book Review Podcast and I'll be right back. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking in your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting in between you and a life you want to live. CD medic targets your pain at its source it's fast acting relief with active tasty ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free hemp oil get back to your life with CBD medic available online at CBS. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. 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Don't be left out listened to the Golden State media concepts music podcast g keeps you on the loop with everything you deleted from pop rock hip top flooring and we'll throw in news of your favorite artists concert tour dates and so much more listen did not further because this is the gold standard in music podcasts and welcome back to the DSP today with author Steven Cooper about Kim's new Thriller Valley of Shadows before the break we were talking about the two main characters Alex Mills and Gus Parker and how they both have both bring their unique set of skills and gifts to the series to the cases that they work on but that they are at heart just regular guys so let's go go ahead and turn back to that interview yeah and I like that they are. They are regular guys. They're also not often in books. The average age of the main characters like twenty eight or so and these guys. Are you know not twenty eight. They're they're they're older. They're a little more established fabulous and so they have they come to their work in their characters with different issue. You know I know in previous book there were are there were issues with. Alex's son and I haven't read it but I know that that was mentioned somewhere on your website so they bring their issues with family and and with him they're not they're not going through their. You know their twenties with This is not about that kind of angst right now. Alex is very much in. He's in that part of his life. He's in his forties and he just nothing really fazes him. You Know Oh and gusts you know. He has a little angst about his visions because he's not sure quite what to do with them all the time but he's pretty now. He's pretty cool with himself. You know like he nothing really rattles him either except when you being stalked when he's being stocked well. I would hope that would rattle him a little bit yeah. how have the characters evolved through the series well. I think they've gotten used to each other in other team. In a way their friends and their friendship has deepened profoundly over the course of the three books and it's a friendship that I enjoy because I know what that's like to develop Bella friendship with somebody in watch it over the years deepen and become more meaningful where words don't need to be spoken spoken. You kind of just know the other person is coming from. I think that you know Alex you can see him. Develop from that person who you know felt really odds with his superiors and you know all that pressure to a guy I who really is very confident and doesn't take a lot of you know bull from the people in the department. He's his own person but that it doesn't happen overnight. That happens over the course three books with gusts. You know I think his growth is seemed through his relationship with with this woman Billy Welsh and how he approaches these romantic ties is something he's never have been all that successful with kind of in his own world and so naturally he chooses a woman who's kind of in her own world right and it through the progression of the three books you see the the learning curve of their relationship and it does change him thank you in terms of the book and the story. What kinds of research did you do well. I always reach out to homicide people. When I'm writing crime fiction which is what I'm writing primarily and so I I'm in touch with certain detectives both in the city that I live in now and in Phoenix ex because it's one thing to understand sort of the generics of crime but every agency in every department in every municipality howdy behaves a little different procedurally since the books are sort of police procedural that you want get those facts correct so so I have conversations with people in the Phoenix Police Department to make sure that as much as I'm writing fiction that enough off of it is true to true procedure I have met with people who profess to have psychic abilities to find out how they work and to figure out how to best apply some lap practice to gusts his own and you know I I refer back to a lot of the cases that I covered in my own work as a crime reporter understanding how the judicial system works and in how the relationship between law enforcement specifically police departments and district attorneys and how cases get funneled often referred up and how they make their way through the court system so I still have a problem throwing away. Old Case files is that I have from my reporting days but they're really helpful. I look back and really understand how cases unfold you talked a little bit about this but even you mentioned that you've lived in multiple cities. can you talk about why you chose. Phoenix specifically for the series well first of all when when I lived out in Phoenix in worked out there I think the atmosphere had a profound the fact on a because it's very scenic in a stark kind of way and the way that Phoenix Looks from a distance from any distance wherever you are looking out it's kind of mysterious because there are all these mountains and these ranges craggy peaks and in different times of the day the shadows are cast off these mountains in different ways and it just it just sort of felt like the perfect place for you're a mystery in the desert itself like the perfect place to dump bodies because the desert so vast and you know you never know where the next ex- body's GONNA end up right and particularly with the first book which you know really worked with some of the mystery I stumbled upon in the desert in the name of these ancient petroglyphs that were carved didn't the caves in the mountains by you know the native Americans of hundreds of years ago these these these art art renditions from so long ago that I was stumbled upon in my hikes the petroglyphs of the desert themselves inspired the first book desert remains which is very much driven by the mystery of those petroglyphs and why he a serial killer is using these ancient drawings as the inspiration for his murders so I think that answers your question like why the series restarted in Phoenix because that was something I really wanted to use as a source and so I found that I didn't right. I mean I should just say right now. I didn't write this first book to be a series. I wrote it as a standalone desert. Remains Raines was in my head of standalone but my publisher like the way that the desert was established in the story as a real character as a real is a real necess- necessary part of the story. you know the publisher like the atmosphere that it was created so I was asked to do. I was asked to create a series from the first book so I hope that answers your question. Yeah I did thank thank you and besides having lived in Phoenix. are there any particular autobiographical elements in the book or the characters. Not really you know I don't think so. I think that in all the books I spend a little time throwing shade at the media and I do that sort of autobiographically because as a former television reporter you know so I'm very thankful for the career that I had in very grateful for a lot of things that I learned but I also regret some of the stupid gimmicks in crazy crap that went on in TV news and so I don't spare you know I don't spare the industry at all in these books you know. I- auto biographical you know make make some statements about the way television news works and also. I guess I could say that autobiographically. I think Goss- US is a little bit like me. You know we are not easily rattled. we both are very much driven in by a spiritual kind of sensibility you know when I think about crime and I think about murder. I don't just think about blood and guts. I mean there's plenty of blood the guts of my books but when I think about murder in crime I think about more the the mind in the criminal minds like what the hell is going on in someone's mind that would prompt them or motivate them to create or to commit commit such heinous acts of violence. I think yes. I think that there's a little bit of me. In Gos- thank you for that. I appreciate it What are you working on right now right now. I'm working on a standalone alone book which is like a little departure from gone. Alex Gusmao just asking me for a little time off like okay guys. Is You got it. Exactly you know you deserve it. It's been three books. You Got but I thought that you now that I live in Atlanta Atlanta. I should challenge myself to right here. In this atmosphere. I should challenge myself to try to bring Atlanta alive in a piece of crime fiction. Now of course this book might never see the light of day in. That's what I think. The truth is for all writers who you know how I don't know what in other writers tell you but the truth is is that you know so you know so many times you have an idea for a book and you start writing and it may may never make it to publication because it just might not work or might not be the right time but right now for me. It's the project and it's you know it's a another piece of crime fiction that takes place in Atlanta and you know it centers around detective on WHO's struggling to track down a killer who who is kind of breath leaving a lot of question marks about how people in our modern culture dealing with racial issues issues and problems and this story I think in a way I think this story draws on some of the contemporary issues that we're having with race in our country. Now okay so it's a it's a very timely only piece yeah yeah. We'll thank you for that and hopefully Alex. Gusts have themselves a nice vacation because you know I spend a lot of murder and stuff and they they need a break. I think so too and you know I'll I'll get out. I'll give them the time off and that I'm sure we'll all all get back together again. They just need some space Stephen. They don't want they just leave them alone us himself the he'd like to get back to you know he liked to get back to. Southern California new some surfing so gotta let him do that. Sure sure her because even fictional characters need breaks to sometimes clearly speaking of breaks we are going to take our second break of the podcast and when we come back we'll have conclusion to my interview with Stephen Cooper stay tuned. You're listening to the GMC Book Review Podcast and I'll be right back. It's cutting into your exercise. Exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and the life you want to live. 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There's a podcast podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching the golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast. Harvard's from news sports music fashion cooking entertainment fantasy football and so much more self stop located around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast is the whatever it may be visit us at. Www Dot M. CPAP cast dot com follow us on facebook and twitter and download us on itunes soundcloud and Google play and we'll the third novel in his Gus Parker and Alex Knowles series that is a mystery and a thriller so let's go ahead and and get back to the conclusion of that interview you were a reporter journalist so when when did you start writing fiction in what kind of inspired you to do so well okay so either writing fiction ver- very long time. I wrote it throughout my whole career. As a journalist it was in many ways my second sound so pompous and arrogant it was my salvation but the truth is is that it was really my way of coping with all the blood and the guts I was seeing in real life on the streets cure so I would go home every night after work and my own worlds where I could control the crime I could you know make choices for people in how they dealt with the crime on the streets and how the cases found their way to the courts and you know how cops track down down evidence informed very much but my career but the the writing that I would do at home that creative writing was really. It's so cliche but it was an escape from that you know there's no other way to describe it. It was just a healthy way for me to get all all this stuff out of my system and but but even practicing writing my whole life I'm years even as a kid I was. I remember Writing Stories Areso all through my childhood and and I just thought it was fun because I love reading. I always loved reading. I always said to myself. I I WANNA do this Sunday. I want to write stories for people okay and so what what was the impetus or what prompted you then to to get some of your work. Published tried or go that route. I remember when I was a younger reporter quarter at one of my first jobs this is this is this is the truth. This is like a story that I treasure the newsroom. One in this woman was sitting at my desk who I did not Recogni and so I asked my assignment desk people whose I why she my desk Oh. She's a writer and she's working on a book where like one of her characters is going to be he ever reporter so she asked to shadow a reporter today so we assigned her to you know okay sure so. I walked over introduce I myself and she said would you like to have your desk back and I said No. We're going out on the road. You're GonNa Shadow me. We're going to go off the road. I spent the day with this woman and so she was trying to learn how reporting works just the whole stream the whole work stream like how you gather other your story and your interviews and how you put it together and how you meet your deadline and all that stuff and I was learning from her like what the Hell is pushing publishing all about like. How do you get a book published in like what does it really take to be a published writer and so she and I from that day forward became. I'm the best of buddies like our our friendship transcended any of this stuff between her needing me and me needing her her. Just we became really good buddies in. We commiserated for almost our lifetime now. We're still very very close. She's written her stuff. I've written my stuff but you know that was really a big. Turning point for me was meeting. Somebody who's actually doing it. Oh yeah well. That is a very cool story that her named Gene Stone. She writes lovely stories that take place on Martha's Vineyard. Okay I was GONNA ask but I wasn't sure if you wanted to. You mentioned her name so thank you for that little plug for gene yeah good excellent out of your personal journey through writing writing. Do you have advice for aspiring authors. You know I see a lot of advice on social media these days. It seems like every day somebody else has some advice for someone and I and I think my my biggest piece of advice I firing writers is be careful of how much advice you take it can really for you. I think if you're on social media seeking advice or looking verd- vice too often it can really take over your work. I think some of your work has to be done really organically like I thank you gotta throw it out there. You know on the canvas or the Potter's wheel and and see what you do with it first burst before we start asking for a lot of advice. You have a story idea in mind. Sit Down and write it and on your next extract or your third draft then worry about getting the advice to May publication worthy because I think that with the kind of advice that I'm seeing out there like don't do this don't do that. ADVERBS are horrible. You know I think I think just too much gotcha that gets in the way I would say read a lot. You know particularly Jon. RAHM that you're writing in. You need to be reading that genre. You need to be understanding. How good stories are told and you can never read too much so absolutely read and I would also say. Don't be so hard on yourself. I see a lot of struggling writers who host on social media for some reason. There's a lot of depression. Russian angst among writers social media and I think y'all just being too hard on yourself. Thing isn't coming together right something else even for a day. I'm not saying abandon your project. Don't abandon your project but if it's not working that means that you need to you know spend a day running about your Bhatty on betty who you know can't stop drinking cursing or when you know what I mean. It's like it's like it's like capture something else and then go back to your work. Don't get so caught up in the road blocks that you perceive are hampering your work that you hamper yourself. Just get away from and Ah don't be so hard on yourself and and entrust your instincts but I gotta say a repeat myself read be he read it be reading. I read every night I read every night before bed and you know it's just it's just great to keep being exposed to two other work and other work that works yeah. I would know very much like for you to write. A short story called my body. Betty please. WHO SAYS I haven't okay well. You know I'll read it. I'll remember that and back to your your comments on social media that one of the I mean social media and the Internet are great but you can find you can find something to contract everything you find so if you find a piece advice that seems to make sense to you you can go on the next day and find the exact opposite piece of advice and it can get overwhelming exactly but you mentioned reading so who well. I guess what are your favorite authors or genres What are you reading now now. All those good nosy reading questions. I have really collecting tastes like Alfred anything. You know you know I'll read anything as long as it holds nitrogen or enjoy enjoy the writing so I mix it up a lot between fiction and nonfiction. I feel like some of the best nonfiction fiction what makes it best is that it's it feels like a novel. You know I love nonfiction. Net is that is so well profited feels like an awful up so I borrowed back and forth but you know as as as someone who writes crime you know I I enjoy Dennis Lane. I enjoys day box I grew up in Boston. So I grew up reading Robert B Parker. I was really no sort of spoiled by I reading about cases that took place in my own backyard as a kid. I loved that onto the classics. I've always recommend Chandler and Hammett but you know there's there's some great contemporaries to like. I just mentioned I just mentioned in in a James Diskin whose work I love the Stones Series Ville Ryan. WHO's a friend and she writes? Some terrific. austin-based books also so yeah. I mean I very very eclectic tastes right now. I'm not reading crime fiction at all right now. I'm reading uh-huh well. That's not true. I'm reading books right now. I'm reading hanks new book the murder list. I'm also reading the biography of respect Ginsburg now okay who if you want to go back to the Internet themes people are hoping we'll live forever right what was she. We know she's basically she has to. I keep seeing all these different memes about her living forever but speaking of social media do you have a website and where can people find you social media so people can buy me a few different places. My website is Stephen Cooper books dot dot com which I just updated with a new trailer from my book on facebook. I'm at at Stephen Cooper author and on twitter. I'm at these Stephen Cooper not not just any Stephen Cooper. I'm we're on twitter you are the only one parent is tentative article all right. I anything like it. We've talked about the series. We've talked about writing Is there anything else that we haven't touched on that. You would like to just put out there for people to know about writing or your books or anything at all. I think that I'm I am not somebody. I take my writing very seriously. Obviously I have an agent who make sure of that. You know like I send things to her and she makes me work. She you know Oh. She really may speak. Take my work seriously but I'm not someone who takes myself so seriously. I noticed about a year ARGO We're GONNA Trial Twenty nineteen. This is having brilliant orange. I think it was last year. I went away for for like ten or twelve days without my laptop and I had a little separation anxiety because it really meant detaching watching and not working not writing I've rain. It's not because I think that I learned the importance of unplugging it came it. When I came back from that vacation I was really ready eighty to get back to work and to start fresh felt energized inspired that I had never really trusted trusted myself without some kind of attachment to a some sort of device where I could record my right thoughts and you know or work on a book. I used to write on planes all the time but this trip you know we went away and I I implore and it was a daring move on my part so I came back thinking like you know. This is what you need to do every so often like you this. This is really important and I recommend it. I recommend for all the people are out there stressing over whatever work they're doing that. You know it's sometimes you just have to walk away and get some new perspective and I really i. I think that's a big part of what I bring to. My writing is is that I now bring to my writing the idea of freedom and and you know Justa away to find year's Year's end. I guess I know a lot of people are going to be rolling their eyes when they hear me. Say this but I just I. I kind of think that you know we struggle so much. Watching our daily lives regardless of what our professions are. We all go to work. You get up in the morning. We rush breakfast. We get out there go to work and and were not necessarily all that prison with what we're doing but we just get through it we get through we get through it and were attached to every device in the world and we're on social platforms and this is a very long answer to your very short question but my point is is that I think in this this day that we're living in that so digital and so high tack that it's really good to go low tech. It's it's a really good every so often just to go low tech and you know we've been talking a lot about social media and then you don't have all the social media wastes blathering at you either so I can definitely see the advantage of it. Well you know. I think it's helped it's helped me. He has a writer also because I've gotten to see the world with a great pair of eyes that are that are really only focused on the world and not on a device and not on. I only go away. I say no posting like we're not those people who post on facebook. Oh here we are you know at Mont Yuki Chew. I would like we can wait until we get home and post our vacation photos when we get home. We don't need to do it in the moment because that means. We're not the moment right yep so you're going to say well. I want to thank you so much. Stephen for joining me taking the time to talk about the Alex Series and especially the new book which comes out when September seventeen so you can pre-order it now valley of shadows okay. Thank you so much really appreciate it. Oh sure thank you. This has been terrific. Thank you once again to Stephen for taking the time to speak with me me about his book. It turns out that he actually wasn't feeling all that great on when we talked over the weekend so I think he did an amazingly good job of being engaged and engaging while not feeling well as opposed to an. I don't feel well and I sound like I am going to. You've you've all heard heard me when I have a cold. It's lovely at any rate. 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The riots are no longer about the death of George Floyd. The narrative has shifted. Are the COVID fears of social distancing over now that the riots are taking place? Police can;t stop protesters from destroying property!?

The Conservative Circus w/ James T. Harris

2:04:37 hr | 5 months ago

The riots are no longer about the death of George Floyd. The narrative has shifted. Are the COVID fears of social distancing over now that the riots are taking place? Police can;t stop protesters from destroying property!?

"I. Last week in the, we learned that you could be arrested for opening a business, but not for Lou one. Gentlemen Children of all ages. Zoo. Circus. Him St. Clean to not for one moment. Make the mistake of believing that. The violence, the vandalism we're seeing. In these in these riots. Are about the the death of George Floyd. Of course George, Floyd died at the hands of Minneapolis police officer. And we all solid. It was videotaped. It went viral. It was nonsensical. There has been universal condemnation to the officer who who kneeled on George, Floyd snacks and to the police department. We know that we have a policing problem in minneapolis amp, probably other cities in this country. There is no controversy. What is controversial is the reaction. We've had. Black, man unarmed who have died at the hands of police. In our past. But we have never. had a reaction like this. A reaction across the country. Of of of mayhem. Chaos. Fires. Smashing stores looting rioting. And what's been really kind of odd to watches how the media tries to cover this they us. These protests were peaceful as Bernie buildings are burning in the background. You have people out there. who were protesting and they were, they were genuinely outraged. You had people who were seeking to exercise their constitutional right to peaceably assemble to petition the government for a meaningful change to police policy and demand justice. You had people out. Exercising Their First Amendment rights, but here's what's curious. Those good people were doing that any pandemic. Those good people were doing that and they were not socially separating. I'm not trying to be flippant funny here. I'm trying to make a point. It is fair to say that this whole Kovic nineteen garbage is pretty much been checked. The hypocrisy of it has been checked. It seems to be okay. The very same people who want you to be sheltered in place. The very same people that want to keep businesses shut down. The very same people that want to keep our schools shutdown. Have no problem with young people out in the street. Rioting and I. Mean that because it's been going on for days. The moment cities like Minneapolis realize Oh. Wow, these is not gonNA, stop all while this is lawlessness. Would they do they? If finally called in the National Guard, who was on point for three days waiting for orders? Let's take the obvious. The vandals who who pillaged. Louis Vitton vitton stores, who who who pillaged the Mall Fashion Square Mall. They were not driven to do so because of their sense of moral indignation. Over Floyd's death. The scary thing is. We got people who are driven to do this. Because some of them, just like the ideal of smashing windows to steal designer items more than the ideal of working in saving to earn those expensive items by at but. They have not been allowed to for the last eight weeks. See something lit the fuse. This was beyond a perfect storm. You've had government shut down in economy. You went from rector unemployment to record. Up, but the low rate of it to now it's exploding at one point. The black unemployment rate was down to four percent. Now it's back up to fifteen percent. You have millions of people who are now out of work. Because the government, put him out of work. And then the government gave them stupid guidelines like you've got to wear a mask and you gotta stay six feet apart one of the most incredible things to watch these people riot and burn down buildings wearing damn mask. So you can't see who they are. This mask thing is going to become a real problem. Usually, it's the bandits. Usually it's the bad guys that cover their faces that hide their identity. So much contradiction. So much confusion. We've got the governor Lord Ducie giving us a curfew that was immeidiately violated. There's no respect for authority. There's no respect for police. There's no respect for our our political leadership. We've got a real crisis. Going on, and I'm going to say something to you. Even though I republican Republican governor, the crisis in this country right now is with leader with with liberal leadership across these countries. There is some bizarre policy. In place. Where you are not allowed, or police are not allowed to stop people from destroying other people's property. And this is not wilder random. We have egner kissed who are taking? Advantage of these police policies. We are, watching. Planned, chaos we are watching organized group task our police forces. Their tactical. And we're watching something else something. That's really frightening to me when other Americans. Try to exercise their constitutional rights. We have a government officials saying that you know that's not being very helpful. I'll talk to you about the leadership. Political leadership in Scottsdale at six eighteen. What we've got here is. Fair Yeah Mutate. This thing to be conservative circus I am your ringmaster. James T Harris. Yes. We have a failure to communicate and we've lost. Our our founding documents. We've lost the ability to talk about it to communicate about it to act upon it to stand upon it to protect it. As many of you know I recently? Purchased a a Harley motorcycle love going writing you the weekends ago, rioting gotTa Riding. Parker got partner I them the the Clemson Tiger King. Clemson dagger King we're going to go on a long ride, but we. We found out about the the looting that went on Fashion Square, so we went up there and stat. Took a bunch of pictures. Posted on my facebook page James Harris media also on instagram. Also on Tiger kings page. Is a bunch of pictures of other damage. I had a conversation with the police officer. Actually conversation with a couple of police officers. The first group told me that they had just finished a long shift. They looked beat. I'm like hiding goal last night. Guys, they say oh, about a hundred. To five hundred. They were there trying to protect them. All as a looters broke in, and just read havoc inside the mall. Got Crazy. Is it mostly kids. I had a conversation with another officer. And I'm like you know I just have to ask you. Why is it you guys are geared up? you're you're there to protect the citizens, but when these people start going off and started breaking glasses and breaking the windows up. How come you guys don't stop that? And the officer told me. It's against policy. The, officer told me that they could only begin to get aggressive with crowds like that with rioters, if the if they attack other people or if they attacked the police. And I told the officer I think that that policy is bullish. ACADE-! Because you're allowing peoples property to be destroyed and property is like person hood. The officer said this I mean this. These are the policies that are in place, and that is why she answered my question. And you could clearly tell. The officer was frustrated and they had been on the job since I think nine o'clock the previews morning. As they were explained this to me all. It was running through my head conversations that I've had with our sin. Say Jeff urge a constitutional conversation which you can listen to if you download the free iheartradio. App We talk about this all the time. It is important to note that the founders. Often. Didn't believe it necessary to denote a distinction between the right to life. And the right to property, because they believed both of them to be an element of the same natural right. Life. Liberty and the pursuit of property. For some reason we got away from that. We think that it's okay for you to destroy property, but as long as you don't destroy life. No, I'm sorry. The constitution gives us property rights as well. And those property rights are as leases important as personal rights. Government is instituted no less for the protection of property then of the the person's. Individuals we just let go, and it's a very social thing to let that go. Is Part of this this problem that we're facing in our cities today, the these policing policies. They're not constitutional. I'll take a step further. Over the weekend we had some shopowners down in Scottsdale. Who took it upon themselves to protect their property? while. Everybody was riding around them. You add some shopowners standing. In front of their places what Ar Fifteen! And nine millimeters. And guess what? Their property was not destroyed. Well, we'll why because you have protested their rioters who are more afraid of armed shopkeepers, then the police. What in the world is going on that crazy? You've got police who are armed to the teeth. We have on the riot here and you have people running right up to him of slap in the face videos all over Internet. But. They won't do that to private shopowner. Now, here's the deal you've got officials in. Scottsdale, saying what irresponsible for shopowners to stand in front of shops, you know with guns to protect their property. That's that is causing the problem. That's not helping is making the situation worse. We, get the government. We deserve because we. Elect, ask how to relate that. Into Office. You got shopowners out there exercising their Second Amendment Rights Oh, but there there peacefully protests bag that, but if you want to say, Oh, they're out there, expressing their first amendment rights. That's fine. And everybody doesn't have a problem with that to the greatest. They won't call rioting protesting. But the moment. A CITIZEN Exercises his Second Amendment Rights to protect his his constitutionally protected property. Left US individuals. Cry Foul. And then try to guilt you. Into laying down your rights. I got something to tell you if you have not been paying attention. Government could not protect you. Government cannot protect you. And what we saw by a handful of shop, owners and Scottsdale should be the modus operandi out. Tells you something else. We've got more people in the community who are very very concerned with the liberal leadership I firsthand can tell you. That there were lines wrapped around the block. Down at tombstone tactical yesterday. Why because people are looking at TV? and seeing the government's not going to protect you. They can't even do their damn job. They refuse to do it for. Deciding to take care of themselves and in that line. Sh-. Liberals. A bunch of liberals. Because, even liberals no. This ain't right. These are being turned on their head. In the thing that we need to do. is to is to cling. To our guns in our bibles. We need to express our first amendment rights by no just back in church, getting back with like minded people praying for this country praying for each other. We need to recognize that those people who are who are legitimately protesting do ever legitimate gripe. We can do that. We can walk and Chew Gum at the same time, but not when the government has boot on our neck, I'm talking about the curfew all the way up to the Calvin. We're GONNA talk to someone who is in the No. A PASSER And a public of official. At six, thirty three. elrushbo. The maha-rushie Rush limbaugh today at ten on five fifty. And on FM at ninety five point five hd two. You're listening to the conservative circus I and your rig master. James Harris is a lot of different angles. Of that people are looking at, but the real crime about this whole thing is. When you first saw the images. Of of a man being choked out. By the police officer, it was universal. Everybody was on the same page. Is One of those rare times where you can? You actually thought. That that America's going to come together. About America's going to to rally. Around a an issue. We could talk about police brutality. We don't have the racial is. Everybody can understand. Why was racial lines as part of the the media narrative? But, it truly was an opportunity regard to have an opportunity to to to address an issue at time to come together. And almost immediately it was lost four couple of different different reasons. How come it took many days of for this for that officer to be incarcerated? I mean I know that the prosecution must have made sure that they have a solid case. I know they don't want to overcharge. Because the worst thing you could happen is He'd be found not guilty on some technicality. And all of a sudden you gotta ride became situation. So why did they? Why did they take so long? It got to the point where even the mayor who? We've now come to find his completely utterly incompetent. Did Not Didn't did not show any type of leadership whatsoever as he can play. I don't know why he wasn't I. Don't know all of this game fuel to the fire. Then as I told you regardless, here's always going to play. This is going to be politicized. This is going to be weaponized. And then it was. And then took on a whole different life zone. We're GONNA. Talk about that later in the show, because I do believe that there's some fuels that have been firing this. You had the mayor of Atlanta who weighed in on this and her commentary was a Qu- quite extraordinary. Let's let's let's listen to this and and understand the passion here. That's mixed in with just the absolute confusion and appalled. You're being appalled by how it played out across the country, but particularly or should say specifically in Atlanta wants coming in of course, Mayor Kisha Lance Bottoms. Joining me or members of our senior team, and also we have. Joseph Veasley. We have. Coming in. Soon A might as well as shocking Zulu. There may be some others joining us. let me just. Ti Killer Mike. And shocking, Zulu. A. Killer. Mike is the one that got me and killer Mike actually got really emotional in in a separate interview but killer. Mike Rapper. Killer Mike the Rapper. Who about the? Hip Hop! Let me. Just speak to what's happening here today. Above everything else. I am a mother. I am a mother. To. Four black children in America. One of whom is eighteen years old. And when I saw the murder of George Floyd. I hurt like a mother would hurt. Yesterday when I heard. There were rumors about violent protests in Atlanta. Idea with a mother would do I call my son, and I said where are you? I said I cannot protect. You and black boys shouldn't be out today through. Thick. If you're out in the streets right now in this type of atmosphere, something's wrong with you. If. You're out on the streets right now with all other talk about black. Police attack a black people violence stuff for you to be out. Industry right now is Asinine. I can't even I'm looking at the TV. Taking all of these kids, these young kids in the street, a no question. I asked. Where are their parents? Where are their parrots? So you got the you got the mayor here laying down some real truth. To be on the street right now. This you thought was your protests. Actually it's not parenthood does not come with the instruction may does it, and that is what I wished I would have more politicians that where are your parents remember that one riot. Forgot what it was? Oh there are protesting neuro in black protests and one of the mothers saw she recognize her son. She recognized. She went down to the riot. His ass off way back in the house. And they'll was caught on video. We need more of that. Mayor Bottoms. Out Concern me out care about where we are in America. I wear this each and every day and I pray over my children. Each and every day. Jesus so what I see happening on the streets of Atlanta is not at. All wait minute. This is not a protest knows that. This is not in a spirit of Martin Luther, King Junior. This is chaos. Up Protests has purpose. When Dr King was assassinated. We do this to our see actually. You did so if you love this city. This city that has had a legacy of black mayors and black police chief. And people who care about this city where more than fifty percent of the business owners in Metro. Atlanta are minority business owners. If, you care about this city, then go home blue. Go F- You go. But they didn't go home. They didn't go home. They continue to trash. The city, but there were some words of wisdom being dropped their. Much stay tuned because it's six forty eight Bhagat Lil Ross weekend rap and be going to have more observations about what is going on in this country. The president's private number John Kennedy does catch this afternoon from one until on five fifty. And on FM Ninety Five, thousand, five, hundred, sixty two. You are listening to the conservative circus. I am your ringmaster. JC Harris every weekend I. Tell you don't watch the news. Don't bother. We've got you covered I. Can understand if you did not to take me up on that this week or last week, because things were absolutely crazy and I imagine little Ross. Things have to be kind of crazy for you to you know. This is the first time in roughly two months that my weekend was not dominated by VID. Okay, however, it was dominated by all the other nonsense going on the Guy Dj overall little Ross. With the weekend rap. Joy Ford protest, turning into raw spacex launching into space to pilots while. Present up top of mind visit while riding need not apply it marked as a terrorist group, the hatred the policy. Of course. You gives for purposes bill screw. Billions funny, not available. In Arizona said I do and I. Don't have Corolla pocket. Messy was because his out of town. To vote is a flaky. Little, Ross that was you're right. We went from Kovin. To Riot. Because, that's what the dominate the news and tell me again. who was the ASS hat actor? That was caught in the mall. Filming on Youtuber Jake Paul Jake Paul brought his film crew. To Film. The loading in the mall now look when I got there. In the morning I mean everybody was gone, but you had these big oil hose. I started out by apple by the apple store. Window kicked in. I walked in walked through the mall to pitchers. But you know what that's just seems Kinda Hanky That seems like an after the fact. This cat was part of the mob stormed the best deal. Videotaping it all the way, and then had the nerve to complain about. Tear gas, the plane about how the police were being belligerent. What are we look GEIC at? Young Generation Young folks in the streets. No wasn't just mayor bottoms that was talking about We need to go home. You have one you know what the people who are old enough to remember. The civil rights movement. The people who were old enough to remember Martin Luther King Junior like in real. 'cause they were alive during that time. Were absolutely appalled by what they were seeing. Medication, that's why pay. And he out give a damn about Azerbaijan. Cal. The police officers WANNA. Getting. Out of out. This is a former N. double ACP Saint Paul Paul Minnesota. She was the president. Is She's gotta be pushing Seventies. She went down there with a megaphone megaphone, telling these people to go home. This got say saint. Paul, don't have nothing to do with this. You know Saint Paulin Minneapolis, twin cities. This is early on. This is boop before it spread throughout the country. But she's telling the truth. They have nothing to do with this. So, how did this happen I? mean now everybody at first everybody be must've. We must respond to this. This is something that we have to finally address you know police. Brutality well was address dues been arrested. I mean he's going to be prosecuted. He's going to do time. Some of the other people who officers were standing around him that that's going to happen. There's not a police, not police person end this country. That even the you yet. Coincide with this man. Because what he did, it was so obvious. So why are you protesting? Saint Paul has nothing to do with this. I'm going to tell you what I tell you I think happy here. I really do believe. That after being locked down for eight. Weeks after having nothing to do after losing your job. We have seen suicides increase over the eight weeks. We have seen drug use increase. We have seen alcoholism increase. We shut down our churches. We shut down our organizations that were even help would hold the school lunch stuff all of that down. We shutdown being able to go to church and worship. We shut that down. We kept the liquor stores open. This is the match. That the set the whole thing. Tinderbox! I think is I think that we did not have. The lockdown. Would not have had this national response. It had to the the water hat the flow someplace and we're seeing it. We are seeing it from this generation of folks who are out there. They you know what if they had a job to go to tomorrow? A probably a half of them wouldn't be there. We created this or I should say government created this. In the government response to it. Has Been Abysmal every step of the way and I'm talking for from back in the cove it to now. Finally we do have some leadership is coming from the White House. Even though people are upset with the with the law and order that president trump is talking about and that by talking about. I think that we're about to see some changes. Because even these liberal leaders in these liberal cities realized that this has gone on too far or too long, and it has gone too far. When the talked some city officials? At the seven zero three. About what steps are going to be taken to make sure that the these cities are are not. Lost and that's what we're looking at right now. From Philadelphia to DC to New York to to Minneapolis to Chicago they're lost. More chaos, protesting and rioting in Phoenix, the latest. Ways the gentlemen children of all ages. To kind of service. Fee Heiress Governor Ducey. Put out a curfew last night saying that after eight o'clock. You're not allowed to be on the streets. And given what happened in some communities are a lot of people. They kind of agree with that, but a will alas. The protesters did not agree with it because they shirked the the the the curfew. They're out and about in your bag, downtown downtown Phoenix last night. Queen Little Bit problems in central ring of the conservative circus. We have SAM stone. He is the chief of staff for city, Councilman Sal to Cisco and Sam last night. We heard that if started out fairly peaceful, and then it kind of turned in the end. Is that true? Absolutely a mess, the history of the things aimed at least the last few days we've had you know what chuckle of hours of very peaceful protests thing which I certainly had a ton of respect for, and then it's gone out and. Thank goodness for the Phoenix Police Department and the effort they did especially last night. They stepped up in a big way. We had over two hundred fifty. I think arrest the last two nights in downtown. They are taking these votes off the streets, and if you were out or if you were saw any air, you know if you're uber driver or someone still out last night, what you saw was the entire three thousand person Phoenix police department on the streets in every single neighborhood, every commercial center and you wake up today to a city. That's still looks normal because of our police department contract. That's what's going on around this country. This is the right way to do things. Jerry Williams police, chief, and Phoenix deserve a ton ton of credit. You say I'm. I'm still on I. Agree with you. She does deserve a ton of credit if she needs to hear from the community, because strangely I haven't heard too much from Mayor Gago on this whole issue, and this is a liberal run city, but for some reason we were blessed to have a achieved Williams. Who really doesn't play and they're so professional in the pushback it it's it's it is gratifying to see my question is what will these people who are in jail be charged with will be. Will they be held responsible for the K. Acid 'cause? That's the big question of still yet. Be Answer James Because the first night of these protests. We arrested just two people. And on some pretty significant charges, in one of those, in fact, had a bunch of Warren's, and they got down to the jail, and the the administrator just turned around and let them right out. and. A champ that we rearrested those same people are pretty darn high. so we're waiting to see one of the things about the governor's order and I have my questions about a week long lockdown, but one of the things about it. Is that UPS potential penalty? You could face a fine of up to twenty five hundred dollars and six months in jail. you know we need to be current simple if you're out there looting if you're rioting, if your lighting fires and causing damage and doing the things we've been saying. We need to throw the book at. You need to go to jail need to stay there for a long time. My question is how could it be? Why were they just released? Allowed to sign out. I mean what good does it do? If you're going to arrest two hundred people for looting for violence, and then they're not going to be punished. You'RE NOT GONNA. Hold them accountable. That's that's that's crazy. Ville I'm not putting that on Jeep Williams, or do I need to WHO's responsible. Who made that call? No, James. You definitely don't need to be putting that on Chief Williams. You need to be putting that on the politicians at City Hall and the majority, the liberal majority, and it's what we've seen across this entire country for over a decade. They look on the. There's a liberal brand that looks on. In tear them off and has been doing it for a decade and now the real truth, the real face of MT is out in front of every American. They're trying to deflect the blame. What they have done for years is treat this group, which is a a domestic terrorist group like they are legitimate protest group, and it is not. It needs to be treated differently there. There are people who out there who are very legitimately protesting George Floyd and issues around policing in minority communities ANTIFA is here to commit violence and fro this little phobos revolution all these little white voice, sitting in their basement draymond on being radical revolutionaries. It really is a frightening thing to see and you see how they tried to co op the. The movement and we're GonNa talk about that later on today's show, but but stamps talking to Sam Stone He is the chief of staff for city councilman, Saudi Seo there are at least two members of the city council who have been particularly unhelpful and our egging on as you just said are supporting and cheering the actions of these radicals in our streets. Well you know I wanna be clear we do they are, and and what they're not doing is differentiating between legitimate protesters, and though troublemakers, the ones who are out there to do mischief and criminal damage destroy property threaten live. They're not defining the difference between those two. And until they do that, they're protested illegitimate and that at the end of the story. It's just amazing to me that we elect people like this. Who are it's like? They're on the inside of the government now and they're helping create the chaos Samson. What kind of effect is this having on the on police officers and also WANNA. Know what impacted this having a small businesses downtown who are trying to reopen after the covert orders were lifted. Well. This is absolutely destroying all these small businesses James I mean they are struggling for all their work to find a way to survive this thing, and now they're getting hit with these damages, and they can't have their businesses open. It had absolutely devastating, but the bigger point here that you just hit. You know we had a from what I understand I'm hearing report that one of the two city council members was actually out there with the the the people damaging property in downtown Tucson was actually with them. And we've we've had council members here in Phoenix who have set out on their office letterhead statement saying Oh Phoenix police, really reasonable measures are brutality and violence, and this is racism, but not. Not done with this garbage. James was done with it. It is time to take control of our country back. If. There's a real problem and there is with policing in this country been. Let's address it meaningfully. You do not do that by lighting fire and causing damage and burning things down at hurting people that were. Sam Stone Chief of staff for city. Councilman, Sal assist you'll. You can hear the frustration in this. It's real. And Sandstone is right, not just for of the contrary. We can't do anything about other states began. Do something about was going on right here in the valley? Right here in our own state. And the when we when we look at what happened in. Downtown Phoenix with the chief of police. I'm telling you I'm impressed because I'm looking at other cities where they're just letting people burn just letting people giving them space to burn. That is not happening here. and the Sam Stone said there is a legitimate part of this is been co-opted, but There is a legitimate part going on. The? Protests that's going on and we're going to talk to some folks who are looking at that and looking at how we do really do need to change when it comes to the policing. That's happening in. This country will do that at seven eighteen. You listening to the conservative circus. I am your rain massive James Harris. Gerald Richard! He's a pastor with the ame African methodist. Episcopal church he served the public for nearly thirty five years as also an attorney by trade, he was a prosecutor before serving as assistant to the chief of police of the Phoenix police. Department Richard also served in the Arizona Attorney, General's Office at these special policy advisor for law enforcement. We welcome to to ring of the conservative circuits pastor Gerald Richard, passer a former prosecutor and public defender. I imagine you have a very unique perspective on what you're watching right now. Can you tell? Can you tell us through the eyes of a pastor what we're seeing? You Know James I good morning. It's so good to talk with you again. Through. The eyes of the pastor tell you what probably one of the best. Sermons that I've heard even with all of the and you and I talked about the divisiveness. That's going on was one that was. sheriff with US yesterday by Reverend Judy Kato and it was based on love. And she was talking about how with everything that is going on whether we look in the Old Testament or New Testament. there's one. Consistent message and that is. If we can love one another, we can get through this. And so through the eyes of a pastor, you're always. About the safety and welfare of your conversation, but you're also concerned about the safety and welfare of your neighbors and so That would be I guess. Probably the best way to put it as far as through the eyes of past. Will you know? Have, put on your your your other cap. Because You've been very involved in the city. You know as a lawyer as someone who's worked with the police department with the. Department, what are we looking at when you wear that hat? When I when I wear that hat when I I. I must admit it takes me. Further to Not only. What I saw when I was growing up in nineteen, sixty eight after Dr King was killed. And we had the rights that occurred in Chicago and the one thing that I always said was that while I was with the Phoenix Police Department and working with the community relations, and and the legal aspect of it I never went to see that again and thank, God, under my watch that did not occur. Even with one of the largest demonstrations in the state history with over one hundred fifty thousand people marching in April Twenty six. And, so when I see this, I know that there can be through proper planning and Communication and working. Working with the police and the community that you can have incredible demonstrations with no incidents and no arrest. I'm proud to say that. I was with the Phoenix Police Department as the Commission on accreditation of Law Enforcement Agency said in twenty or six. It's one of the best law enforcement agencies in the world, and to Jerry Williams doing an incredible job as far as tried to. Work through all of this is going on right now. right now. I tell you what is so disheartening. Because I saw when I went to Ferguson Missouri to do the Action Assessment Doj and that is to see where there has been destruction, but James I saw something this morning that just absolutely blew me away, and that was the number of citizens that are come out especially those who are professional athletes who played on the collegiate level to clean up the city. take those steps order. I didn't see that. When I was in Ferguson I, didn't see that sixty eight, and so there's a certain balance that is going on here whereby individuals they may. Be Disgruntled and disheartened because of the destruction that has gone on, but there are just as many individuals that I'm GonNa get up at five, thirty or six, o'clock in the morning and I'm going to go out there and I'm GONNA clean my city up because we are not going to stand for this as far as being a place that looks like it's a war zone. Gerald. Richard is pastor Germany. The pastor with the. American, African Methodist Episcopal. Church she's in the center, Of other conservative circuits, what you just sit there i. mean gave me a little bit of a goosebumps because there's something different about this pastor what we're watching right now, I mean. We got a lot of division going on in our country. and I but I think there's a few things that people can agree on that is Gerald. Floyd was murdered I'm sorry George Fort. Fort Floyd was murdered and there's no. There's no controversy about that what we're seeing as far as did reaction to it. I think it is causing people to realize you know what we do need to do something about this, but we also have to do something about that. This destruction. We gotta put things back together, and only citizens are going to be able to do it. And you know something that's interesting is that all of this is happening after we have gone through the worst pandemics in the history of mankind. Where individuals are coming, stepping out with mass, gone and gloves on and all the cleaners that they have purchased themselves. And they're cleaning up the city. And that is that's that is phenomenal. I tell you it's really funny because you were saying George Floyd. Yes, he was murdered and there have been on a lot of other instances that it's set off. similar riots throughout the United States like I said nothing to this magnitude actually since king. But you've had the situation with Rodney. King You've had situations with other individuals that have occurred that have died in police custody that have kicked us off once again. I am I commend the Phoenix Police, department, right now and the way that they have. Done their very best to. Work with the community as much as possible, even under these trying times and I'm I'm really hoping that we can continue to do that. I understand the East Valley. The chiefs of all come together in order to provide support to one another They've done that within the last forty eight hours, and that's something else. That has been quite commendable, but we have to deal with the issue at hand, and that is the systemic. Systemic problems that we have been facing for years. We're going to have you back on when they talk about those systemic problems, but I appreciate the fact that you've made some time for us this morning. Passer Gerald Richard Yeah Yeah he's right I did hear that we have other police chiefs from surrounding communities who are coming together. They're formulating a plan of this. It is incredibly encouraging that you have so. Many folks have stopped tweeting. Stopped a Dune, the social media thing and just went down to help to clean up to help to to bail out. And it is crazy and I think is connected that this is all happening right after a government lockdown for the last eight weeks of this is that unexpected consequence that unexpected release, but we have to question. We have to question the police policies that are allowing this to happen and we will start to do that at seven thirty three. Riley is here this morning at nine fifty on five fifty KFI ON FM Ninety five point five hd two. You are listening to the. Conservative circus, I- anger, ringmaster James. T Harris just had a very interesting conversation. With passer Gerald Richard. He's with the African Methodist Episcopal Church served in the city for for a very long time, and he's talking about hope. He's talking about how people are coming out from the cities. They are helping to clean up there helping to put their their neighborhoods back together. The problem that I have though. Is that We've had a lot of cities around where the police have. Let the rioters damage property. The they're leading the the mayhem. Go on, and this is something that's been up a papa policy for a while. It was going on back with Baltimore was going on in Florida with the Trayvon Martin thing would went on in Ferguson. You at the same situation you had private citizens exercising their second amendment rights to protect their property. I think it's very strange thing. Would you have rioters? They're afraid of the armed shopkeeper, but they have no fear whatsoever of the police. Now I had a conversation a with a officer yesterday. At Scottsdale, they said this is their policy that are not pushed back, but this sounded very odd about that to me, so I reached out to mark Spencer he is with Judicial Watch. He's been a police officer in Phoenix forward for decades. I wanted to get him to weigh in on this Mark Spencer welcome to the centering conservative circus. Why do we have a police policy that says that you cannot go after a rioters, and until they attack you personally or tax somebody else, but if they burn down in loot is fine. Well of be with you and. Why that happens! Because police management or a mayor city council is treating their police department like a fire department. Effective police work is proactive James. It's not reactive and so when you eliminate consequence from the street, you don't provide deterrence. And when you got deterrence, you're going to get a dangerous and deadly situation, and that's what's happening. They rather have the officers. Pick up a bobby, then save a life, and and it's very problematic. When police management or elected leaders prefer to create a victim rather than stop a crime if it's really foolish and reckless. How long has this been the policy? I mean I tend to remember when I was growing up courses. The one thousand nine, hundred thousand in the nineteen seventies. You did have more of a problem with some terrible policing, but there was also a healthy respect for police in the in you know in our communities in about not just black. Community in in general. But something the shift a happened since then I would say about the eighty s until the present tw- where there is a lack of respect for police, a lack of respect for authority, but also it seems to me like the police have changed their tactics to play into that win at that all start to happen. I think there's a connection. Between that and and lazy thinking. In Minneapolis case and we've talked about this. You James the contact between Mr Floyd and the police officer. I I think there's a struggle in saying that was a racist situation. What was though what the police officer engaging risky or reckless or a ruthless Catholic? That's unacceptable, but ruthless in risky and reckless is not the same as racist. All Racist Stupid people. James but now stupid people are racist. They certainly can be reckless, and that's what occurring here, and so we're gutting important word, racism and labeling every problem as that when indeed it's poor decision, making and politically driven agenda. I'm one of the few people who were agree with you. One hundred percent on that issue and had been warning people and I seem to be odd man out many times this is this does not have to be a racist issue. It could be mixed up in look at this officers record. They already have, and he could have been disciplined many times over I think there's like seventeen different violations or instances where people have accused him. Him of being abusive that to meet points to a policing problem. We don't have to bring race into. It is all too easy these days, but we don't have to bring race into a dad is a policing problem as you just pointed out. That is a training problem I use suggesting that that is all in the mix when it comes to why we have police some of the policies. We see out of all of our ability today. Certainly it is and James Your concerns Jimmy. Why was it taking so long to make a call in Minneapolis about this? Perhaps might I suggest the reason? Is this because the officer could have said that's what you trained me to do. And so that doesn't make it right. That doesn't bring life back to Mr Floyd. officers are trained to win the fight. Wants to fight is over stop. If we win the fight, we save our lives. If we don't stop the fight, we take life and that's unacceptable and a poor policy. You, behind, this not excusing the conduct in any way, shape or form, explaining conduct and condoning or two things. Perhaps that's what's occurring. It's a bad policy that needs to be modified in. Sadly, our minority community partners not very the brunt of it. Never thought of it like that the reason why it took a couple of days for them to rest this guy, and usually it takes longer I mean. This happened on Monday and by Friday the they were arrested him, but you're saying the reason why they probably had to proceed with some caution is because of the training that these officers got. He probably said I was told was I was taught to do this. What's the problem? James, I bet you lunch I'll bet you lunch. That's part of their policy and it was never modified, and it should have been. Mark Spencer from Judicial Watch waiting and giving us some background on the policing problem in Minneapolis and the precinct problem across his country. As we're watching police, officers, standby as chaos reigns in the city, and I will I will point out this mostly happening in Democrat, run cities, but in the valley. In the valley under cheap Williams Phoenix. That's not the policy. And we've seen it over and over again. The protesters become here. They'll create chaos. They get corralled. Last night. We had over two hundred arrests. The question is will the the politics. The politicians of Phoenix will the council. Will they change their policies to make sure that these people who are destroying our city get punished. We're going to dip into some more media reaction. As the media, trying to spin the narrative that they've totally lost control. Eh For we're not so tragic. It would be hilarious to watch the spin. Now one of the invites you to check out my blog. 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Who would tell you right now, she. She people like that Oh i. don't see race. Racism kills me I. See as also saying I get the charities, but the minute. She sees a black man. who she does not a respect or who she has a slight bought against chair, weaponized race like she had been trained by the area nation clans member tonight have been better trained to pick up the police and pick up her phone and tell the police. It's a black man after American man come, get it. As Van Jones. On C. N.. Drops forget about the clan. It's the White Hillary Clinton supporter. White Hillary Clinton supportive. We should worry about. I mean. That's kind of while this Van Jones. He's turning on the Democrat women the suburban Democrat women. Say that the racist basically what Van Jones did right there. They Hillary Clinton. And Her? And Her the people that would vote for her deliver women. Who Live in the suburbs don't. Like. Black people. And that's the tone for the weekend. Because, there was some extraordinary video that surfaced over the weekend. Of Americans of African descent, just trying to protest. The the murder of George Floyd. They were legitimately trying to protest it, but you had white folks down there. Who were spray painting? Black lives matter. We're doing this for Roy in the black. Folks with like a don't. Wait a minute. Do you got us? We're not trying you not representing our position. Is One thing to march with us? Is were another thing that tried to coop the movement. And that was happening all across the country. We're finding out that allow these people. They were paid to be there. They were reporting. You had white antique for trying to recruit. Black Kids underage kids to join their movement. And it's all caught on video and I think that's one of the things that's giving. Many people pause. Where like WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA. We're down here protesting this. There's a whole new set that's coming in. That's destroying. You at Keith, Ellison. He's E as attorney general. In, MINNESOTA! He's the guy who was beating up his girlfriend. He's part of the reason why the whole metoo things upon me to move away. Because it was obviously, it was on tape. The woman's all bruised up and there were two of them, and the the Democrats and Minnesota turn their head. They elected this guy in office this guy. If you check on my facebook page, you'll see. He's standing there with the anti FA pamphlets. Just like excited about him. That was back then. This is now. Do Blacks in Minneapolis have reason to distrust? Or even to fear their local police. Sadly, yes, there is a history that has been repeated time and time again. I want to say that. Many officers are great people. I know so many of them and I think the chief is an extraordinary person and the mayor and the Council of a lot of credit for pointing I'm Mr Eric Dondo. But IT IS A. Problem in the Minneapolis. Police Department is a unique problem in the Minneapolis police. Department, even though they got black chief. Even though you got Keith, Ellison caught with the ANTIFA propaganda. Here's a problem. See ANTIFA, was, was it? They're all club. They were protesters. Back when they were disrupting trump rallies back when he was elected, there are setting things on fire. We've got an and other folks on. Ben Shapiro trying to go on campus and they're tear something burning stuff down. That was peacefully protesting according to the Liberals. But. Now that the anti has turned on them. The, trying to go back to the race, Card. and Keith Ellison is a disgrace. Yes Black Americans in Minneapolis have a reason to fear the police. Actually no, they don't. All the citizens. In Minneapolis should be concerned about how their police were were trained, because they've been having some problems consistently. These white kids who are going around co-opting the the the movement if you will. It's a disturbing trend. These anarchists. I was out over the weekend. Stopped at a restaurant. To get some food with Clemson Tiger King. Ross right. You got a big played a bacon. I got to pick special. Started, talking to the to the can, I say waitress. That'd be sexist. The server. Talking to the server. And it was interesting because we were talking about how stupid to wear these masks, I kind of stuff. You know She said I'm over it. You know and. I think this is kind of a big conspiracy. So of course I caught Miami start talking, and then of course it shifted to the riots and the protests in going on, and she says after really curious. She said I hope I hope to just burned to the ground. Out The burn it all to the ground. A make what? I kind of went around with it. You know went along with while. Just listen to what she had to say. Later, checked social, media. This child has a death. Wish for society. She truly is an anarchist and the people. She hung around with I. Mean obviously there. They're hardcore. lefties leftist I should say. But I was Kinda shocked Nice you know got demands gone. But love you. Learn may just to twenties. You know you'll make trying to make eleven. But it turns out. There's another side of it I wanNA see society. Burn burn it all down at these are the people that are out there amongst the folks who are who are protesting legitimately. And that's why we're watching chaos. I believe that's why so many people are starting to wake up. On looking for anything logical money. People. Recent on negotiated with. Some men. Just want to wash well. That's what we're dealing with. That was from from the Batman Series, a Dark Knight series talking about the joker. Some men just want to see the world burn, and that's part of what we got mixed up in in our cities today. Legislatures being told to to avoid the capital for their own safety why? Ways gentlemen children of all ages oil. To conservative. Circus. I'm hearing that there is a lot of activity downtown surrounding the capitol. In the center ring, other conservatives circuits. We have representative Bob Thorpe representative. Thorpe. We're we're hearing that a lot of you and your your colleagues are being told that they should avoid the capital right now. What's going on? Well James Know, one of our members was down there and and DPS. Officer approached him and said You know MR representative. Are you carrying a weapon or you have any weapons with you and their response was well. What do you need officer? Down there trying to help games if we're living through a crazy time, united talked about how crazy this Kobe the virus shutdown has been, and and now we've been up to one on that Now we're dealing with You know lockdowns and curfews and statewide, and and you know it's happening down at the Capitol as well so we're very concerned. Yeah, there were some damage a few days ago. Some of our state buildings and we don't want to see anything else. Happen to the House Senate the executive building, so really gone into bunker mode locked down down to capitol. At the National Guard is down there. You know I haven't got a confirmation on that I gotta be honest with you. I would be thrilled if they are down there. you know we. You know. Listen to your reporting. I completely agree with it. The past that you had on was amazing you know we. We need to get no nonsense when it comes to these looters you know there's there's something very different. A peaceful. Political Protest degree your concerns to the government, which is protected by our Constitution and then somebody, looting and stealing and destroying in becoming an arsonist terrible one. The things that I think is opening. The eyes of many people is when we talk about Some of the orders that we experience over the last last seven weeks from the lockdown to the stay in place to the nose to practicing social distancing and all this kind of stuff, and now we're watching all of that. Just get blown up across the country as people are violating all of the CDC suggestions. And are this is crazy what we're watching, but I think there's also a lack of respect for power for I should say lack of respect for our political leadership right now as issuing these decrees, but the PR industry creating chaos as well and now we're seeing that happen I think a police chief Williams doing a great job where we still have a lot of places that are under pressure and the capitals one of them right now. Williams the way win amazing later. I've I've met her before, and just outstanding, and we're very fortunate team because they have a chief like that. James when you and I were young, and we're all hopped up on sugar, but we're also grounded in our house, and our mom's finally said okay. You can go out and play. Did we go walking out the front door? Like Meek, little chat no, we went running out like like an insane person. Because you know, we were just paroled from being locked down in our house, so I kinda wonder. If some of the reaction we're seeing across. The Nation might be in response to that, so we've seen people. Especially people lower economic means that have lost of. Of their jobs they've been cooped up in their home. They can't find anything else to watch on Netflix, and then all of a sudden things are opening back up right about the same time. This horrific event happens in Minneapolis and then what's the reaction tent up a desire to go crazy after being locked down for a month and a half two months so so it doesn't surprise me that we're seeing this nationwide. This overreaction representative Bob Thorpe and that is something that I think a lot of people are starting to speculate about wonder about. Could it be? Is the fuel for all of this violence is the fuel for all of this pushback of the fact that this nation had been I'd say illegitimately. Shut down for the last. Eight weeks. Could it be the response or reaction to the Millions of jobs being lost? Could this be the response to people seeing their livelihoods already choked off and killed by the government when it was shut down. Restaurants small businesses. Could this be some of the anxiety with the that people are seeing from the unfairness. Some people can open. Some people can't. Some people were seeing as deemed as essential others were not. We saw the black unemployment go from a historic low of five percent fifteen percent in just a couple of weeks. We saw nation that was were gainfully employed to the point. Where you know, we need to bring and people of legitimately. Have Immigrants. Come in legitimately to participate in this fantastic economy to the economy being flatlined. And this is that the government did to us. We've had our liberties sorely tested. And then we had the. Floyd murder. That was the match that lit the tinderbox. And we see that the the looting and the rioting is going on all over this country, and no not legitimate at all not knows that what we're watching is absolutely horrific. What we're watching right now can can destroy republic's. Law and order must be restored. And President. Trump is starting to talk about that. And so has his attorney. General William Bar If we don't restore, restore and order. I mean it's frightening thing. We're disco next. And not every city has a the resources. Or using the resource to the best their ability like what we're seeing in some parts of the valley, other parts of the valley. No. I do not think. That a mayor Jim Elaine. Over in Scottsdale should should of letter. The rioters tear up. The mall. To me, that's when I went down and took a look at this I'm like. Do you gotTa be kidding me? And I believe it was some of those policies where we're not going to push back. Not GonNa cost. PROBABLY NOT GONNA mass arrests Ivanka. Give them the space. We're going to get them to space to destroy as long as they don't attack us or attack any other citizens. Will. They took space, and then they went into the mall and they destroyed it. That stuff has to stop. That's the kind of policing that we don't need because it's not policing. Go talk about more of the the. Reaction, which is very fascinated, the media reaction. To the riots that have gone on over the weekend and has really shook the conscious. Of our country, we will do that at eight eighteen. To the conservative circus I am your rig master James to Harris President. Trump got to a little trouble. Over the weekend because he's looking at the same thing, we're looking at it. And he went to twitter and he said we're thinking, but you're not supposed to say it. Not supposed to talk about the thugs and the people acting like animals. You're not supposed to say they should be shot. Although. Most Americans were looking at this. Are Thinking the very same thing. I'm thinking that. Where are the rubber bullets? Not a rubber bullets did come out in. Minnesota and CNN were hit with a few. Nick played about that. About when it comes to really. Locking down of these cities when it comes to really a trying to get rid of the ANTIFA When it comes to forcibly stopping people from looting and destroying. We do have a winner and president trump and in. Attorney General. William Bar unfortunately with the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country. The voices of peaceful protest are being hijacked by violent radical elements. Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda. In many places, it appears the violence is planned. Organized and driven. By an Arctic and left. Extremist groups, far-left extremist groups using Antifa like tactics, many of whom travel from outside the state to promote the violence. Light tactics people who travel from outside of the state that's been going on. In his lots of videos of these anti FA trying to recruit. Trying to recruit kids in the black community, here's is an extraordinary exchange between two. Older Americans of African descent one is in his forties. Yeah, the ones in his thirties and arguing with each other. Arguing over a sixteen year old kit. And the older gentleman he's like. What is this going to change? We got you know we have to get out here. We have to do this. We have to mobilize become at this happened in our community and the the one who's in his thirties like you're wrong. We've been doing this. We've been doing this. For decades and it's getting US nowhere. We don't need to put our young kids on the front lines of this madness. This wasn't extraordinary exchange. I`Ma give you a heads up some warning. There's some language. But you can go. To My facebook page or my blog site and you can watch for yourself as something that needs to be shared because there needs to be another way. The need to find another way as pastor manning. Has has reminded US many many times. It's at a point now. All it is is complaining. You've been moving for five hundred years. You've been in this country trying for five hundred years and you still. Complaining, but you don't have any. Hundred, year. Five hundred years marching and can planning. You had the you had the mayor. Of Atlanta. Give a very emotional speech. Over the the weekend. and which she's saying pretty much the same thing, but you're tearing down the neighborhood. You're tearing down your own city. You're tearing down places where we've had to celebrities invest in. If, you want change. This is not the way. To make it come about. See I. Kill a Mike own half the west side so when you burn down this city, you're burning down our community. If you want change in America go registered to vote. Ooh, show up at the polls on June ninth. Doing it in November. That is a change. In this country, you are disgracing our city. You are disgracing the like of George Ford and every other person who has been killed in this country. We are better than this. We're better than this. As a city, we are better than this as a country. Go home. Go home. In the same way I can protect my son on yesterday. I cannot protect you out in those streets. Your door knives at our police officers. You are burning cars. You have the face. The CNN building. Ted Turner started seeing in Atlanta forty years ago because he believed in who we are as a city. That's mayor bottoms. And I think that. The things she's saying there are absolutely on point. But she speaking to a lost generation. Generation has no civic pride. They. Don't have the the history. They have been taught about that. All they have are cup societal. The raw emotions handed down to them from their from their their parents. Handed down to them from the culture from the very music. That allows for for a lot of these entertainers to build stuff in there in in the city five, but still the poison. The chip on the shoulder. And then the absolute. Ruinous! Emptiness. That allows them to. Be Seduced enter destroy. That's what cities are up against. Our country's up against. And we can go down that rabbit hole I would love to what we often right here on the on the conservative side because I'm looking at the images that I'm like looking at these kids in the streets looking at these kids. Why kids black kids get kids industries I'm. Where are your parents? I would never be. My father is dead and gone. May He rest in peace? I shudder to think what he would do to me. If I was out there protests, he saw it on TV if he knew I was out there like that. That's gone today. and. It's been replaced by a weakness. And a a moral weakness, not just in the family and the homes, but also amongst our leadership. A liberalism. That is destroying the very fabric of our nation. That's that's destroying the very fabric of our republic. And if you don't believe me. Wait till you hear what politicians like Cory Booker had to say about that. Still driving the left nuts, that's why we love. Rush this morning at ten on five fifty K. of Y and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. You are listening to the conservative circus I. Am Your Ring Message To Harris? President trump is a little bit of trouble. trouble. was there trying to kick it up over the weekend? President Trump tweeted out that he felt very very badly about George Floyd's death. And the the president said. When he was watching the the violence boil over these thugs are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd. Did I won't let that happen? So, I just spoke to governor Tim Walt, and told him that the military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control, but. When the when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you. The left. Went. Crazy. How. Dare The president talk about thugs. He's calling black people thugs. And how dare him say when the looting starts, the shooting starts. You've had mayors across the country. You gotTa Mayor Lightfoot over there and Chicago was her response. Her response was F. Trump, she said. She said. Even Even Senator Tim Scott. American of African descent Republican from South Carolina weighed in. When you hear about the looting starts. The shooting starts when you hear about vicious pair about police dogs. Is that kind of talk from the president of the United States constructive at this moment? Not Consorts of tweets without any question I'll say this. I spoke with the President yesterday morning. And he and I had a good conversation. About what are the next steps I told him what I'm. GonNa tell you which is is the president it helps us when you focus on the death, the unjustified in my pain, the criminal death of George Floyd, those tweets are very helpful. Helpful, it is helpful when you say what you said yesterday, which is that it's important for us to recognize the benefit of non violent protests. It is helpful when you respond to my request to have the Department of Justice led by Attorney General Bar have a commission and a conversation around race and justice in this nation Mr President. It is helpful when you leave with compassion. Right, that was a little He went on a little roll, didn't he? But it's not helpful to talk about law and order especially, if you know talk about you, know the dogs and all that kind of stuff to see that brings up images. Of of the past. That brings up images. Of Winna, the racist police in the south. Unleash the dogs. On the protesters? That were trying to fight for civil rights. See that reminds us of. That dark period. We. Go Bite supremacists. Were A. Blocking civil rights leaders. In black people. Having equal opportunities in our society. I want you to know this is what people are thinking about would you can't because of that? You can't use dogs anymore. Because of that, you can't really use firehoses to knock people back. Because the. Racist? Law Enforcement did that back in the sixties. So. Now you talk about doing it. Now. Would you say the thugs? Well, you're being racist except. except. For Joe Biden. This very day. Violent drug offenders will commit more than one hundred thousand crimes on this day alone. And the sad part. Is it that we have? We have no more police in the streets of our major cities than we had ten years ago. And? What the president proposes won't help much. What he proposes his no increase of what the Congress has already approved last year. In a nutshell, the president's plan doesn't include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs. Not Enough prosecutors to convict him. Judges to sentence them and not enough prison cells to put them away for a long time. Joe Biden. Talking about putting the violent thugs in prison in a nutshell, the president's plan doesn't include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs. What Enough police officers to catch the violent thoughts boy, if that came out of the mouth of president trump. However, it's it's not racist. It's law and order. And the German Shepherd Police Dog, they do need to come back. And so do the firehoses. which do those before? We get to the rubber bullets? Then if things get real serious time to go live Oh, you can't say that. Yes, I, can I just dead? You don't mean that Oh, really I do. See peacefully protesting. Don't have a problem with that issue constitutional right? Rioting. Destruction of property private property. I'm sorry you do not have a right to do that. And you know what we're going to continue to see this until good people. Decide. That they're going to have to do. Put a stop to this. It's not going to. Until. The good guys are willing to use overwhelming force against the bad guys. We're going to continue. To, have problems. And then. You've got layers like cory. Booker from Donald Trump, before president will page ad condemning to death. The Central Park five exonerated people to his calling entire cities in our country rat infested roden. Fill. Cases fell to his. Ability to condemn Nazis every time I responded Donald. Trump, I do it from a place where I realize he doesn't deserve response. He doesn't deserve. My attention or my emotion are people too I. Donald Trump has no longer has the capacity to break my heart to surprise me, but I say this all the time if America though is. America has broken your heart. You don't love her, but if you still his country than remember the words of Martin Luther King about people like Bull Connor and people like George Wallace he said what we have to repent for is not simply the vitriol at words and violent actions, the bad people, but the appalling silence and inaction of the good people. I am not going to give. Donald trump the capacity to break my heart again. To break. My heart, but you know what. Even with that still better than Joe Biden. Every member remember if you don't vote for Joe. Biden you ain't black. Just, It's just. It's just too much. We have a van. Jones get I talk about Van Jones because he made a very very cogent observation over the weekend and Nancy Pelosi. Other politicians are weighing again. Notice, Covet is gone. It's gone now. You know we've got to get back to work to clean them. You GotTA get out to clean up this. Of that is being called in primarily Democrat city rush, that's the only introduction he needs later today between ten and one on five fifty K., F., y. and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. You are listening to the conservative circus. I am your ringmaster James. T Harris. You know that statement that the president made you know when the looting starts shooting starts. I guess you can interpret that a couple of different ways. Many of you when the looting starts we start shooting at you or an observation. You know what when alluding starts. That's when the shooting starts. Negative Shah meaning. We had a couple of police officers that got shot during these lootings. I guess it all depends on how you WANNA, take it. But if you want criticize the president, you can't say well. He opens himself up to these things with these tweets without giving more clarification. And I demonstrated to you exactly how people took that? They had memories conjured up by the south of the Civil Rights movement of we shall overcome the racist, the the racist sheriff, unleashing the dogs and just moments ago. Jay Johnson. WAS WITH NBC MSNBC reporter. This is what they said far. The president has not addressed the nation on any of this instead he's taken to twitter over and over, and he's speaking specifically about stronger police tactics. How is that supposed to calm this country down? Steph the come the country down. The president needs to do more than simply sound like A. SHERIFF FROM THE SOUTH! One thousand nine hundred sixties. There's a lot of president in do starting with acknowledging that the grievance of those who are protesting e-especially Israel and it is valid they are saying black lives, matter and I can't breathe, and we had a vivid example of what they are assisting against last week. In in Minneapolis in nineteen, sixty five snappy moving veins, Johnson went to address session of Congress, and embrace the words. We shall overcome of the civil rights movement. I believe that a president in this situation should acknowledged the grievance, the various protests peacefully and acknowledged that black lives math. Not with you of law lot, begin with less. What is happening across our nation might now so in other words. The president should have you know a in Congress and go up there and say in a black lives matter just like Lyndon B. Johnson went and said you know. Yeah. Dylan. What wasn't that? Lyndon Johnson and also said that if we have these inwards voting for a Democrat Party, W voted for a given welfare. That'd be voting for us for the next two years I believe that was looked Johnson. J.. Johnson. Speaking today? Other than words. If there is moving in the shooting will start or state slung. The military has unlimited ability to make arrests, which is not true as a legal matter, the Posse comitatus act of eighteen, seventy eight forbids the active-duty US military from engaging in domestic law enforcement absolutely doesn't I did the president of making that suggestion as well again? A So foggy I wish she had not that because it will cause Jay Johnson is right on that point, but on the other point. I don't know it depends on how you want to interpret it I. Don't think the president should go say black lives matter. I think that's very different than what was going on in the nineteen sixties. I think the civil rights movement of the nineteen sixties is nothing like the black lives matter to move, but today the black lives matter that was born out of a lie. The trayvon Martin hoax. Let us not forget that hands up. Don't shoot US ally. That never happened. So we have is a real bona fide grass roots country, changing movements of a rights. They're comparing the comparing a fake. To that and the president is supposed to acknowledge it and embrace it J. J.. Stop Stop At. We're supposed to talk about law and order. We're just supposed to acknowledge other people's grievances. I'm sorry. Doing what he suggested. This is going to add fuel to the fire. Note it is. It's like standing out there and watching people loot and burn when you have the power to stop them, but you don't. The left still afraid to address the fact that law and order is absolutely being ignored in these. Do these blue cities the very cities that practice you know sanctuary cities. Allowing the lawlessness of illegals living in their cities. Talk about how the president needs to come over and acknowledges it will go a long way now. Actually it. It wouldn't. What go a long way. Is If these these mayors and these governors stopped acting so weak. And actually enforced. The law. Nancy Pelosi weighing in on president trump, and now he's failing to unify the country. What should the president what United States be doing right now? President of the United States. Should dangerous. The officer deserves it should be a unifying force in our country. We, have seen that with democratic and Republican presidents. All They have seen their responsibility to be the president of the United States right to unify our country, and not to fuel the flame right not to fueled. Tape I think you're fueling the flame when you went against the president with a bogus impeachment. Trial. We're in the middle of a of a pandemic. You still trying to tear the president down with your shenanigans talking about bring, and why is George Stephanopoulos? who used to be part of the Clinton War Room? Why is he interviewing? Nancy Pelosi and asking her that Western as if she's in charge of anything. This is how the game is being played. On, street well, we got more real things happening. But in a- In these television studios. would. Be contained to tear down the president. I just happen to believe. That there are more Americans out there right now. Who are going to line up behind the law and order? Going to shut down the chaos in our cities. That is what they are going to gravitate towards, and I also believe there are a lot of America's out there. That WanNa put all of this aside. And rebuild our place and deal with the issue. Of. Bad policing that we are experiencing in so many of our way Voracek, liberal. Run. Cities. Arizona is under curfew as it braces for violence. Ways Gentlemen Children. To not. Serve! Out a curfew last night, saying that after eight o'clock you're not allowed to be on the streets. And the given what happened in some of the communities are a lot of people. They kind of agree with that, but Ah, Guo, alas. The protesters did not agree with it because they shirked the the the the curfew they're out and about in near bag downtown in downtown Phoenix last night, tweeting little bit of problems in the central ring, other service circuits, we have Sam Stone Chief of staff for city Councilman Sal to Cecile and Sam. Last night we heard that if started out fairly peaceful, and then it kind of turned in the end. Is that true? Yeah absolutely the history of the things James at least the last few days we've had you know what couple of hours of very peaceful protesting which I certainly had a ton of respect for. And then it's gone out and. Thank goodness for the Phoenix Police Department and the effort they did especially last night they stepped up in a big way. We had over two hundred and fifty I think Iraq the last two nights and downtown. They are taking these folks off the streets, and if you were out or if you were saw any, or you know if you're uber driver, someone. Someone's was still out last night. What you saw was the entire three thousand person. Phoenix police department on the streets in every single neighborhood EXC every commercial center and you wake up today to a city. That's still looks normal because of our police department contract. That's what's going on around this country. This is the right way to do thing Jerry Williams. Police chief paintings deserve a ton ton of credit you. You don't see him stone I agree with you. She does deserve a ton of credit. She needs to hear from the community because strangely I haven't heard too much from Mayor Gago on this whole issue, and at this is a liberal run city, but for some reason we were blessed to have a h e Williams. Who really doesn't play and they're still professional. End The pushback it's it's it is gratifying to see my question is what will these people who are in jail charged with will be. Will they be held responsible for the chaos? They've 'cause. Well. That's the big question that still yet to be answered James. The first night of these protests, we arrested just two people. And I'm pretty significant charges in one of those, in fact had a bunch of Warren's, and they got down to the jail, and the the administrator just turned around and let him right out. And? You know chances that we rearrested. Those same people are pretty darn high. so we're waiting to see one of the things about the governor's order and I I have my questions about a week long lockdown, but One of the things about it that it upside potential penalty you can face a fine of up to twenty five hundred dollars and six months in jail You know we need to be Karen simple if you're out there looting if you're writing if you're lighting fires and causing damage and doing the things we've been seeing. We need to throw the book at you. You need to go to jail. You need. Stay there for a long time might question is how could it be? Why were they just release were allowed to sign out. What good does it do? If you go to arrest two hundred people for looting for for violence, and then they're not going to be punished. You're not going to hold them accountable. That's. That's crazy Ville. I'm not putting that on Chief Williams, or do I need to responsible? Who made that call? No James? You definitely don't need to be putting that on Chief Williams. You need to be putting out on the politicians at City Hall and the majority Liberal Majority, and it's what we've seen across this entire country for over a decade. Now they look on the. There's a liberal brand that looks on mtpa and cheer them on, and has been doing it for a decade and now the real truth, the real face of MT is out in front of every American. Their prior to deflect the blame. What they have done for years is treat this group which is a domestic terrorist group. Like are legitimate protest groups, and it is not. It needs to be treated differently there. There are people out there who are very legitimately protesting George Floyd issues around policing in minority communities. ANTIGA is here to commit violence and throw this little boy, revolution of all these little white boys sitting in their basement, dreaming on being radical revolutionaries. It really is a frightening thing to see, and you see how they tried to coop. The movement and we're GonNa talk about that later on today's show, but but stamps style. We're talking to Sam Stone. He is cheapest out for a city councilman Saudi Cecile. There are at least two members of the city council who have been particularly unhelpful and our egging on as you just said are supporting and cheering the actions of these radicals in our streets. Well. You know I wanna be clear we do. They are, and and what they're not doing is differentiating between the legitimate protesters. And though troublemakers, the ones who are out there to do mischief and criminal damage to start property threaten lot. They're not defining the difference between those two, and until they do that. They're protested illegitimate and maverick the end of the story. It's just amazing to me that we elect people like this. Who are it's like? They're on the inside of the government now and they're helping. Create the chaos. Samsung what kind of effect is this having on the on police officers and also WANNA. Know what impact does this having? A small businesses downtown who are trying to reopen after the Cova load is lifted. This is absolutely destroying all these small businesses James. I mean they are struggling all their works to to find a way to survive this thing, and now they're getting hit with these damages, and they can't have their businesses opened. It had absolutely devastating, but the bigger point here that you just hit on. You know we had a from what I understand. I'M GONNA report that one of the Tucson City Council members actually out there with the the the people damaging property in downtown. Tucson actually I've been with them and we've. We've had council members here in Phoenix. Who have set out on their office letterhead statements, saying Oh phoenix polices, really reasonable measures. Are Brutality and violence and is racism. Knock. Knock done with this garbage James. We're done with it. It is time to take control of our country back. If there is a real problem and there is with policing in this country, then let's address it meaningfully. You do not do that by lighting fires and causing damage and burning down hurting people. That is ridiculous. Sam Stone He is the chief of staff for City Councilman Sal Decio you got violence breaking out of course in Minneapolis, you've got violence breaking out in. New York City all around our country. We've seen an unprecedented I mean this is a national. National riots in over. Twenty cities. And, you'll never guess. WHO got arrested in New York City and in Minneapolis. We'll talk about that at nine eighteen. You are listening to the conservative circus. I am your rate Massa James, Harris. You can hear the service are just whenever you like all you do. Download the free iheartradio. APP and you need the podcast. But if you WANNA, listen to the conservative circus live, tell your smart speaker. The tune into news, talk five fifty. Careful I. You could even set an appointment. It's a beautiful thing. Ilhan Omar. I should not say it's a beautiful thing and say Ilhan Omar Rene. Very next to centers. Ilhan Omar is not beautiful. I mean she could be. But she's done so many things. She said so many things she when she speaks I, now get to the point where it irritates me. I get agitated. And she spoke over the weekend. As the Hapless Mayor of Minneapolis. And somewhat feckless governor he did stepped in a little bit late. As they were explaining away in begging the citizens. Please go home. Please go. Ilhan, Omar. Had Her sister out there, actually protesting in full round got arrested. Yes without part of the the rioting out there. And She was concerned about the protesters I think last night. The community did feel safe to know that there will not be burning of their businesses and their homes. We were obviously worried I'm feeling terrorized about that prospect. But there really was also. Many people who chose to demonstrate and not abide by the curfew. who felt like they also were terrorized. The presence of tanks by the presence of the National Guards I and a militarized police right, and so for us is what we are trying to do. Try to figure out something between extreme aggression I and and we need to figure out. How did not get our city? Burn down. The challenge suggestion so challenge at all Ilhan! Assets down. That's what you do. Take, people to stay off the street right now or they wanted to post says it is not a good time to protest. This is not a good time to peacefully protest because you're. Protests has been co opted by the radical left. That's the reality so when you go out there, you're putting yourself in harm's way. You heard A mayor bottoms over there in Atlanta and I can't protect your Sheba telling the truth. She also said if you're a black young man, you're running out. These protests I can't protect you. You need to stay home. Wait a minute. She said stay home. Stay Ilhan Stay Hall. This is not very difficult honey. It's not that sexist when I called her honey. I want you to know that there's no pound me to in this at all. 'cause this woman is. Ilan Omar was not the only one who has. close relation blood got in trouble with the protest. Let us go out to new. York City aware the protests was going on, and the rioting was going on, and who was caught up in it. None other than build the blasios daughter Y. Yeah. I will give her the benefit of the doubt though. She did not She did not tell the copter she was. She didn't say I built the blouses daughter. You better don't do lamp. She'd have played car. She did not play that card. They were able to put it together when they looked at note her address. She gave her address as the you know the the. The mayor's. House. Solo divides got on the TV today to explain things. As has been reported my daughter, Chiara was arrested a protest. I want you I know and I think many many parents can appreciate this. She's twenty five years old. did not inform Shirley Nevada and I of her intention to get arrested I, knew of some of reviews I knew she believed in peaceful protests. Participate if you nights ago, but in a peaceful manner. and. When I found out, she had been arrested. Finally reached her with Lane and we asked her account the whole story, Look. I love my daughter deeply I. Honor Her. She is a good human being. She only wants to do good in the world. She wants to see better and more peaceful world. She believes a lot of changes needed. I'm proud of her that she cares so much that she was willing to go out there and do something about it, but. But. That's just it. You're proud that she care so much, and she's willing to do something about it while your city is Burning Mayor de Blasio, parenthood does not come with the instruction may well. I'll tell you what my son he cares is well very concerned about committee. My son also lives out there in New York City. My son is just a few years older and your daughter mayor and he was out protesting. He cares he also cares about me because you knew that if I were told TV set and see him out there protests got on a plane or Giancarlo drove out to New York. City and I would have opened up a can of with pass. You'd have been fighting each other beautiful fighting each other because he knows. We're not down with that. They have you out in the street fighting and stuff like I? Most grandbabies by best chance you my best shot right now, and you'll hear what which beautiful wife and you all do, and what would have looked asset. I would've. Was a bit of smackdown. Son. Had To give them a cau-. Call, will we be on that? You can care you need to do what I've been quoting. Mayor Bottoms a lot of today. If you want change, you go to the polls, you vote. Don't take. That's what he would have been saying to me, Dad, I want to have to beat you down like this, but you'll come up like this. Don't take it personally. I've like son I'm not trying to take it personally. I saw you on the TV which handed open-air. Them. I don't even I I don't need to go there. We have an understanding. Number two. You'll be out there and I worried about number three. This that number one. That's the one. Yeah, so bill salary bill We got standards to I'm proud of myself. I'm probably didn't take yourself out there and put himself in harm's way. And embarrass me the way you should be embarrassed. Talk to a passer about all of this coming up at nine thirty three. Sean Hannity works every day to make America. Great again. Listen at one on five fifty K. apply and on FM at ninety five point five hd two. You are listening to the conservative circus I and your rain massive James t Harris. Gerald Richard. He's a pastor with the ame African Methodist Episcopal Church. He served the public for nearly thirty five years is also an attorney by trade. He was a prosecutor before serving as assistant to the chief of police of the Phoenix police. Department Richard also served in the Arizona Attorney. General's office. As he special policy advisor for law enforcement, we welcome to the centering ring of the conservative circuits, pastor, Gerald Richard and passer as a former prosecutor and public defender. I imagine you have a very unique perspective on what you're watching right now. Can you tell you tell us through the eyes of a pastor what we're seeing? Dave I good morning. It's so good to. Talk with you again out through the eyes of the pastor I tell you. What probably one of the best? Sermons that I've heard even with all of the and you and I talked about the divisiveness. Going on was one that was shared with us yesterday by Reverend Judy Kato and it was based on love. And she was talking about how with everything that is going on whether we look in the Old Testament or New Testament There's one. Consistent message and that is if we can love one another, we can get through this. And so through the eyes of a pastor, you're always concerned about the safety and welfare of your conversation, but also concerned about the safety and welfare of your neighbors and so That would be I guess. Part best way to put it as far as through the past. Will you know now again? Have you put on your your your other cap because? Because, you've been very valve in the city, you know as a lawyer as someone who's worked with the police department with the. Department, what are we looking at? We aware that hat. When I wear that hat when I I I must admit it takes me even. Further to Not only. What I saw when I was growing up in nineteen, sixty eight, after Dr, King was killed, and we had the riots that occurred in Chicago, and the one thing that I always said was that The Phoenix Police Department and working with community relations, and and the legal aspect of it I never went to see that again. Thank God Watch that did not occur. Even with one of the largest demonstrations in the state history with over one hundred fifty thousand people marching in April the twenty six. And so when I see this I know that there can be through proper planning and Communication and working. Working with the police and the community that you can have incredible demonstrations with no incidents and no arrest. I'm proud to say that. I was with the Phoenix Police Department as the commission on the accreditation of Law Enforcement Agency, said in twenty six. It's one of the best law enforcement agencies in the world. and. Jerry Williams doing an incredible job as far as tried to. Work through all of this going on right now. right now. I tell you it would have so. Because I saw when I went to Ferguson Missouri to do the Act Action Assessment of the Oj, and that is to see where there has been destruction. James I saw something this morning. That just absolutely blew me away and that was. The number of citizens are come out especially those professional athletes who played on the collegiate level to clean up the city. you take those steps in order I didn't see that. When I was in Ferguson I didn't see that nineteen sixty eight, and so there's a certain balance that is going on here whereby individuals they may. be disgruntled and disheartened because of the destruction that has gone on, but there are just as many individuals of said I'm GONNA get up at five, thirty or six o'clock in the morning. And I'm going to go out there and I'm GONNA clean my city up because we are not going to stand for this as far as being a place that looks like it's a war zone. Gerald Richard is a pastor the pastor with the American African Methodist Episcopal Church in the centre. Other conservative circuits. What you just sit there I mean gave me a little bit of a the goosebumps because there's something different about this passer. What we're watching right now I mean we. We got a lot of division going on in our country. and I, but I think there's a few things that people can agree on that is Gerald. Floyd was murdered I'm sorry George Fort for was murdered, and there's no. There's no controversy about that what we're seeing as far as the reaction to it. I think it is causing people to realize you know what. We do need to do something about this, but we also have to do something about that. This this destruction. We got to put things back together and all citizens are going to be able to do it. You. Know something interesting is that all of this is happening after we have gone through the worst pandemics in the history of mankind. Where individuals are coming, stepping out with mask on and gloves on and clean all the cleaners that they had purchased themselves. And? They're cleaning up the city and that is. That is phenomenal. I tell you it's really because you were saying George Floyd. Yes, he was murdered and there have been a lot of other instances that had. Set Off similar riots throughout the United States. like I said nothing to this magnitude that I've seen since king. But you've had the situation with Rodney King you've had situations with other individuals that have occurred that have died in police custody that have kicked us off. once again. I am I. Commend the Phoenix Police Department right now and the way that they have. Done their very best to work with the community as much as possible even under these trying times. and I'm. I'm really hoping that we can continue to do that. I understand that the East Valley. The chiefs of all come together in order to provide support to one another They've done that within the last forty eight hours, and that's something else. That has been quite commendable, but we have to deal with the issue at hand, and that is the systemic problems that we have been facing for years. Gerald Richard. Again with a really unique perspective and I think he's right about that as a matter of fact. there. There's a great article out. By a Max Lucado. This is the Christian writer that I used to read many many years ago and he weighs in on how we can get past these systemic problems as they say of racism in our country. Bill O'Reilly update this morning at nine fifty now on five fifty K. of way I, Don FM ninety five point five hd to. Speak to the the -servative circus. I am your ringmaster JC, Harrison. What is America's original sin well America's in slavery slavery, and is taking us a took a civil war for it to be vanquished from the land, and yet we still do not heal from 'cause we had racial segregation, and when certain actions are taken for people who are old enough to remember. There's a reminder of the of those very difficult times Max Lucado was the Christian writer. He's a pastor. He's writer He has a slew of books when he first started writing I was a big fan of used to read a lot of the stuff sort of like a lost contract with that yarn. But I article pumped up in my in my AH prepping for the show today dollars pretty pretty good. He asked the question. What is the answer to racism? You said there's a profound but simple answer in the wake of all of the the tragedy, the death of George Floyd and the in the riots and racism his center once again. Lucado says in the earliest words of scripture God spoke, let us make human beings in our image. Make them reflecting our nature, so they could be responsible for the fish in the sea, the birds of the air, the Caddo and yes earth itself and every animal that moves on the face of the earth. Embedded in these words is the most wonderful promises. God made us to reflect his image. No one is God. Accept his or her own delusion, but everyone carries some of the communicable attributes of God. Wisdom love grace, kindness, a longing for. Eternity we are made in his image. The image of God is sometimes difficult to discern, but do not think for a moment that God has rescinded his promise or altered. His plan still creates people in his image to bear his likeness every flex his glory. How much sadness would evaporate if every person simply chose to believe this? I was made for God's glory and being made into his image. While we are. Remain in God's image. Lacayo says we should print that on our resumes. We are a diamond rose jewell purchase by the blood of Jesus Christ. In the eyes of God. You are worth dying for. We show. The truth defined the way that we see ourselves. Which you let the truth to find the way you see other people. Every person you see was created by God to bear his image. Deserve to be treated with. Respect. This means that all people deserve to be seen for who they are image bearers, of God. Imagine the impact, this promise would have upon the society that embraced it what civility? It would engender what kindness it would foster. Racism will not flourish when people believe their neighbor bears goods image. Licadho is a brilliant article. Why does God you with an everlasting love? It has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with with. WHO's you are? You are his. That's how we can respect our neighbors. That's God's solution to angry racism that gives birth to violence and bloodshed. Government programs might help. Electrodes might enlighten, but in the end God's plan is the only plan. See every person on the planet as God's. Guy Doesn't have ideas. That I think is something that we should take four. We should embrace. It will go a long way. To solving these `ISMs. What did they give very much for joining the conserved circus today I'll beyond Russell in the hundred this afternoon at five thirty. Make sure you get up early in the morning with Ross and I. So, we could do it all again. O'Reilly's the next followed by rush. You are listening to news. Talk Five Fifty Kfi.

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Are you saying these guys brought all this money with the? No. I'm same Vegas built up pussy. But you're saying that you were with some Jaguar renting volumes are I had church in the morning. I. Say. It'll be because their whole place is built off pussy crazy. The whole place is built off of it that from the, from the aura, the way is decorate. It's all set up to get job. And the make. And to trick on. I mean, it's just it's bet place on a blow your mind real, like you know, I'm in war. This crazy. There's I told my wife the other day I said that's wrestling, magical shit. You got between your legs. You don't know. That shit. You got right there. This is exactly what I told there. Magic improving your legs. I should've magical magic. Probably I'm the lead to jog. That pretty much sums up big. A five day. They'll start acting. My will the blue verdict told me that. Chrissy in Vegas starts at six hundred. They didn't have any. Christian belief women to come to the room. So I was out, I stay kit. I had heard the more. Oh, okay. Okay. But you own last year, Liz food talked about me coming to his birthday party and not knowing how to dress. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Remember? Okay. So we go out then. The same night off the win. Win win. Matter of fact, you seem to last night in Vegas say flew in. Fisherman's cap. Ed, nice day. This is at night. We we all got. I'm not even. They're good. Not even at ten hours. To get dressed up a little bit. You know what we go to the little wing concert so so slack about downstairs. He got a black polo on some jeans, that's Jordan. And we tell his man big name can't wear this shit put Nelson he like, nah, I'm aware this. So now now for some reason I got on the soup. Let me say a suit, I got on the jacket at least. You got on Alfie, right? Right. Right now. Usually slides, the better dress. And I'm the one I'm the one that got to put some put the right clothes on. This time it was other way around sliding know how to dress and I had, I had the right room. So we get all the way to the place way all the way in line, the chick Walkerton say, no, no joy to catch Uber back to the hotel. Come. And he come back and then all of a sudden, he come back with a whole new it interchange shoes. Like with a whole new outfit. Blaze and everything, would you see? A lot of their also out of money in this cave. On again cat. I came while I was thinking about this. He brought that up is, is coming in head to think about it that Vegas hates all in Chicago, and New York. Really what they do. They hate on Chicago New York, specifically, most of the club, if not all of sakes, no Jays, and no teams who wears Jason team Chicago and New York cash, right? No Florida cats. You know, nobody else where. Rather than like, ain't nobody. Well, I think about. Beggar's whereas timberlake's anyway. But nevertheless, he got all his clothes. I mean at one hundred ten degrees at night, like, really? Temblor's. So, so it was literally any other shoot cat, or booth of it in J and my lines. He said, no teams no, joy people up there now with everything anything of Jordan's and temblors. I'm talking about upscale talking about bottom of the line garbage. Let you do thing they dress stocks, make a million active. So he got all slippery bottom seeing very osteo put over NAS. They'll put on some Jochen ahead ran almost forty miles cat I have finished running forty miles. If you cheered I was gonna defend you say me slide coming from another state, having run a narrow when I do. I do. Properly Bethnal smell CD. You purposely packing fisherman's was, like, you know, agreed this, but you can't get mad cause my man's will get my full playing coming to kick. Hold on workers. From you. Bream. At the pool. Head on the fisherman. I had a fisherman huddle. I had on a polo sly hit on a real fishing. I'm sorry. Sorry, not measurements. She talk. She talking about Joe hats. You're not talking about my head. Come on. That was appropriate was appropriate. Hey, everybody listening. Indie central today, we doing by the way, happy, belated, Father's Day. Everybody and also related birthday to park last episode. That's how long Joel wallet six seven ward day, gene, many mix. Many mix only appropriate that we do this week to park. Owes more meeting second hour slices of everybody. Listen to India, central player, some summertime music happy. I summer as buddy, you're, sir. So, and we got a good cats cord thought we had two of them, but look, I only got one too much anyway everybody listened in India central. It'd be back with listen to feedback. Becker inside the cave is listening feedback for everybody on this podcast. Yacht by about. I don't got an opinion. Let's voice be heard one. It's as the direction of the kiss. Kissed you really feel. I might just say listeners feedback with cousin lavar on inside that K. Okay. Going another type. Show in Vegas. How will the show? Yard time slot was on when I was in the plane, my plan got delays. So I really don't know how to show but we, we made some stuff to put together. No either the schedule. So like last week, I it takes medal. Like yo we go on the shore. Now, like don't worry Troy even of employees. Don't know what's happening. Nine win Vegas factor. How did the show go do it all? These niggers wind sit down long enough for us to do it show. That's bam. There wasn't a fill in Vegas. Goes from Lance that boy big dog tooth for two on the mixes today jamming. You know what I'm talking about. I think he went into big dog. Sometimes you have a moment way into the, the actually pixel really hot shit. Here we go, this Nayna. Congrats on the interview with deal. When was the first one, you said you had him on before also great job. I roll in the lead. See I was very entertained. We deal here. We are actually last year. This time same place same event. 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Listen might not notice shit. For more than two decades beyond say has been entertaining, the masters through her claim vocals videos, live counts concerts. However, the spite the senators overwhelming talent and show, stopping stage presence our father and former manage, former manager believes her skin tone may have helped catapult her success in amu- with the clay canes show knows revisited the color risen debate which came just months after he claimed in. Internalize color is led him to his ex wife. Tina knows very next show. He be tailed a research study that reportedly found that light. Skinned black women were more successful than Dr skinned women in Newsweek, and on radio. In fact, to back his statement knows listed Alicia Keys. Mariah Carey riana and Nicki Moniz in addition to his own daughter as benefits than ficiary of the bias is a quote from in the music industry. They're still segregation programmers especially at pop radio. Have this imagery, the what beauty looks like live back at Whitney Houston. If you look at those photos, how they lighten her to make her look lighter complex because there's a perception. And it color, isn't the lighter that. You are smarter and more economically managed. There's a perception all around the world about color, even with black folks. There's a perception, as he continued he opened up about how such issues may have affected his daughter's career saying, I think she would have I think it would of the -ffected her success to further. Prove his point. He cited Kelly, Rowland comparing her level success to that of her sister beyond say, wow. Coming back to inside the cave with some hot shit like that. What you think about snappy knows by, and by the way before can answer, the only reason why we brought cat on because she likes. Nice game along here. The reason why your mom ain't on these shows that she likes to. In real life like is unfortunate that we're listening like we're listening to alchoholic talk about how to fix the fighting like this man had rain and right? To make sure that every darks in girl, he knew could be represented any didn't he coulda marry the vigil but he didn't? So it's like someone who suffers from color. Ism is giving us. Statistics about color ISM and it's like that's a little redundant. I do agree that. Yeah, the industry has a color issue, and they'll definitely off, you look back in the day, how they had white women singing songs that black women Rosen. I mean it's, it's prevalent. It's real life. With the here's a black man talking, how perpetuated my guess, father news about it? That's like telling me, how Jane's dress those sexy in his like, no, sir, you, you have all rain to represent all the talented black women yet, you pushed your daughter Kelly was in the same route. Thank you, and courage daughter, to know low on, so it's like I mean maybe clarify like I think the biggest beyond say fan like that. So I'm not coming on part of this need. But I'm just saying in general like out there. He speaking, you know, it's like, somebody who got a crack problem telling us crack issues. It's like we could see how all your research is based on your likes, but I think if you look now there are dark skinned women all over everything else, you know, we, we, we are coming much further than his nineteen fifty seven days. Experience the different. He's a little bit older. So his my kids are these this generation care less, you could have a horn. They put glitter on it and put you on a magazine. Like it's the old school, people still talking about looks, you know. But there can't he says, specifically in music and in radio. And if I look at the top people in radio all lice game. I mean you gotta Kendra g and that's about it. I can't think of another Dr skin woman, that's, that's even relevant in radio. So all the top ones Wendy Williams, Angelilli engine Martine Angela Martinez, all the big dogs, they are lighter skin. I mean you can't kill the messenger on dizzy, my point. I mean I'm not saying he doesn't have going. I'm saying that he's on the side that's pro color is the did he say he was Pruitt, or you're stating affects sorry, his fats prove he's pro. He didn't choose when Destiny's Child had to offer -tunities to get new members. He was look at little black bitches on the block to change the stereotype adjust the, you know, to tell just thinking he wasn't forward like that. He did what he knew he got my skiing, girls, or, or Brown skin. And then what I do notice. Like I saw the toy luck one time I thought she was making good like she lightened herself up Kelly, his lighten herself up to the point where I mean, it would pose your girl name we hit on. She talked about this girl. K love. Yes, he talked about this. This is the same man, I gotta wonder how she feel about this is the truth is, this is a big stigma here about that. Yeah. I thought that was interesting. Anything on that? History has is destined to repeat itself. And it's always Sean that the more fair skinned person are wins. Got always got the look always got the, the past doesn't, you know, so they always got. The one up on everybody. Teachers pit got out of Tiki out of trouble. Whatever whatever you got the dos skin do. Fair skin lice camp. People did everything except when arguments, they really don't win arguments. That's about it. Anything else they went they win what valleys they can long as they can. Fit a certain stereotype is as if they're their own. Race is you will. Seems like they, they have been able to jubilee is there to to the to the dynasty? It was an interesting story that happened from may twenty seventh the Phoenix police department released surveillance video from the store where they say a family shoplifted before critic said officers use too much fourth too much force and unethical tactics to make them to take them into custody. A few miles away, I don't I know everybody saw his video. Me a little more in depth for surveillance video shows the four year old getting the doll inside the store and showing it to a woman who is holding some ten foil while there's no audio appears the woman says she can't have the doll the woman then throws ten full against the display and walks out the girl waits for two other Dulles and walks out with the dog with the dog without pain. Another camera shows a man later. Dente fide as driven aim stealing the package of underwear police the camera outside the store shows a family leaving and a store employee. Telling a police officer who is they're investigative different shoplifting incident about the stolen idol Lee said that the officer told Ames who was driving a car. The family was into stop aim said he didn't hear him. So he kept driving then that should escalated from. There. And guys gotta watch that video it turned into a whole nother spectacle. What do you think about this store? I think things like that happen all the fucking time. No is just there's somebody was conscious enough to pull out the phone and, and record it with the audio and it's recorded from two different angles as I l was, like it's the dollar is the dollar tree dollar store Dollar General whatever, you know. Is not a Bank robbery is not a is. There was no. No weapon, and we all know that also always going to go to fear for my life for that was that was a possible weapon involved. You have you have a child or family at this case, you have an a woman with a child has some have some type of decency and figure out another way to, to to get to the conclusion edge trying to get to get to the implant that you're trying to get to, if you need to sir still or check them lawyer voice, and let's try this different way to get the results that you're trying to get. I'm sure that they would have cooperated had been addressed like humans without the threat of a gun pointed down the fake their face. Come off. You can't. I've always said, when these types of stories, come up there, some police officers ought not to be police officers. It's not the training is, you can keep training them on diversity training and things. It is. But there are still people who are on force offices that should not be null enforcement officers. Maybe they should push desk. Maybe they should just radio out the call, but they are not people persons and no matter how much training goes into, then they're not going to respond, according. I agree on the flip side though. That's why whenever I going to store. I'm oh my kid, I said, don't touch it. Don't touch shit. Because I, I've been there kidding stole ship, at the, my daddy told me note on the few members, I gala my dad is still enough to stoke Hubei some liquor. He he, and he called me and I remember being a young boy. They're like what should too much you can do because you ain't to be drinking. So I stole swore and you bought some some some gin and go to me that it was a window Wisha wiper fluid as Jean notice jam so he couldn't he couldn't do to me, 'cause I told my mom he was drinking. But anyway, go I've been there. What about the windows clean? Let's think about it. Absolutely deplorable every single action. Every officer made was completely not what they were trained for the value of the stolen wasn't even the enough to warrant that many officers like it was extremely excessive extremely just horrible. Just. It was disgusting, and I'm having such a hard time dealing with it like it's happening, so often, and so many people are concerned in so many in seem. Excuse me. You know what? When I found out that made my jaw drop was the, the chief of police was a black woman. Yes, that is morning. Is that is that not an undermining of your superior thority because I'm sure? Matter. If this was stray dogs, you wouldn't. I, I watched the video. And no one was not complying, everyone was doing exactly what they act like this was not an issue of, oh, you know, there could have been missed construe, reside, is that everyone was terrified and office. Bandage of their power in the fan. I mean I understand what you're place where nothing's happened in here. Yeah. Eighteen cars gonna show up 'cause ain't shit popping. So we're gonna make something exciting. But unfortunately, we'd be a for two different Indians that it was festival in the value of the item to. She didn't steal or sh this wasn't a value of the store has insurance to cover baby. Dolls that gets stolen while, we just this wasn't an issue of value, or for we're Gillard catching the crooks these people were crooks we were fairly that were out. And if you telling me the value of the items are two dollars if you the two dollars, but what we're not gonna do sit here in my give excuses purchase poor behavior. You are a civil servant, you know. I agree. Insight. I mean where the fuck should I really start? News his past week. Comedian and rapper lavar and also passed inside the cave guest Charlemagne guy drop their new song. Black men don't cheat. And as I told kept before the show bunch of nine ten of us slide went to Las Vegas and got people that were in the relationship, did not cheat. And I say what a coincidence, that an anthem like this would happen, right? When we come back from Las Vegas. I just thought it was a hell of a movement. Great song, can't we think about that song by Lou and Charlemagne guide? Black men, don't she don't even care about the song. I like the message. I like the positive energies sending out into the innovators. Dighton don't she? All right. Cool. You know what, what else you got, like I enjoy the beds of criteria. You guys checking off the Mark. Also in the news, we've been gone a couple of weeks rapper this story for big dog. What else everybody the ghetto boys, Bushwick? Bill dead at age fifty two. At the several conflicting reports earlier Sunday, initially the seminated TMZ regarding the health of ghetto boys Bush with Bill is now confirm that the pioneer rapper has died after a battle with pancreatic cancer. He was fifty two. This Bill winning anything, say about Bushwick Bill death p the Bushwick. All right. Knows on that last one. I leased, also Simpson's, we've been gone, the Toronto Raptors are now the new in the a champions, beating the Golden State Warriors and six games and two crucial injuries to the Golden State Warriors, but neither here there, the Toronto Raptors Drake. Her new NBA, champions of the world. Get they don't get him a ring to. That was newsrooms gossip will be right back with cats corner. After this. Everybody listen to Indy century. Your favorite podcast is now syndicated on indie central radio. Listen to inside the cave weekly on in these radio. Download the Indy central radio app now. I am. I'm going inside the cage. Hope come out. You never know. Who many mix throw an inside the cage. What? Ready? Weekly? Friday. Got a problem. Questions of problems cat for cast corner on inside the k. Go looking back inside the cage. I thought we are too. No. Anyway, is catch quota John Wiedeman, the job you the mother. Yeah. We, we went we worked. That other one. Stay true. He was in the world. I got no. I saw he was wearing. You ain't never woke up. Capital. Going back to the cat's meow. Out. Rod, y'all ride and blessing highly favorite. I'm ready to eat my dinner and relax. Car. Meal talking about sending shit in you don't read them, and I'm sure be reading around. We got we read that we acknowledged that some hate they're coming. Roader cats quarters inside the Cape podcasts at metal attention to care for cats. All right, we go. I was curious to being nosy. So I went through my I think we did. I was curious and being nosy. So I went through my man's phone thinking, I was going to see text messages with him and other women or even pictures. I saw none of the above. But what I did see was disturbing. He refers to me or multiple texts as my bitch, this bitch, and yellow bitch. Consistency war. He got consistency. It was very derogatory. And demeaning, even though he wasn't talking about me directly. I just don't like being referred to as that. I want to say something to him, but I wasn't supposed to be going through his phone. How do I go about this and address the situation? First of all being on stop being a now. Stuff being a nosey. I'll try to figure how this my first seen this shit. You. No helpful. Earlier today that was one thing. I remember. Thank him. The yoga who say. Goo fat. One. You win looking for one thing and came out with another fucking problem. You know. Yes, these Magdalene you. If you ain't never caught, Vince, the. Oh, face you shut the fuck in enjoy your relate. Every ask me. You just go up to him what romantic night and just like, what I'm killed yellow. Baby. Just call me. Just a real bits and be like, yo, I hope you calling me, no vich like something like she making the same like she can't say, hey, you know what I really would appreciate if you wouldn't, and she vital, I don't want them to know I went to jail. Now's the ass. You have a problem was not your problem and you, you went looking for the problem. My love like house sit tell you like this. Look ahead bid. It's a term idea this term in that he's using what his guy, he's not probably not. Expecting you to any of the women. He's leading this guy's lonely. Aid is. It's. Replicate, this watermelon, as like what did you replace word? It might be what he and his friends have an inside joke of. Wow, understand is what kind of phone, he got that she able to go through his phone, that's try figure like, well, he got phone from like five years ago, son. One of them government phones, gotta government man. You try going. Point is phone is secure, not hiding anything. From from his bit. His ain't had from his bits used to be a safer secure bitch. Not a nosey bitch. That much. He's got me tripping. Shut up all my one for ladies out that not been call you out. The worst of fan in his Hollywood not bees. It would know cooties in what no sex, he lip so hard, it was himself in his own Hopkins. The cure f-, even when the messages. Yeah. Nothing nasty got the late next door. Fuck and suck them and feel guilty. All at the same time. That's what you'd kid. No crazy shit Azam dirty rice. About this before. But I gotta ask you this. Have you ever noticed this cat? Why in so scared of their at I b I one I was scared of mine, too. But I and I, I remember being around guy. I can't tell the story. You always say. This is say he'd be a son that he wouldn't. Okay. Let's say this he checked about seven people. Pulled out his gun and everything and straighten them out. And the next thing you know, his girl, so and basically checked his ass with. And he put his thing up and basically tucked his hair between the legs and walked out. Like. I just don't understand. Like how, how does mean get to the point? We just scared like ladies. If you're manning, scared of you, then you ain't got. No, man. But I just wanted to, like, I like how does that happen in your thing? Angel, that's called syringes more man to surrender yourself. That's why you're married to her this, why she's not to sign or the girlfriend because you can trust her to surrender semester. Limited her and you still the man at the end of the day. It's I, I feel so sad that you take it as a slight. And maybe that's good. So when you're in a situation, you feel that sadness or that pain that makes you make the right choice. So maybe it's there for a reason. But my love bet syringe is what a lot of box for they pray for the man to grin seven and that's a beautiful thing, my game, that's that that gives much respect to your woman. You know what I mean? That you would surrender that, I just don't I just don't I looking at Muslim, and how did I get to the point where I'm like, oh, tiptoeing around the house like you know what I'm saying? Like how did that happen? Like how didn't mean how an all of like. Like, I remember the movie belly like these just got done during the drive-by startup. They homey, this kinda shit come into the house, and they are like your keep it down, my wife, this lead on my girl this, how does that happen? You know what I'm saying? Like, how does that have like, how did we get to be that big? I don't know. I was trying to bring to your attention. You think she might have earned it? I think there are some things that she calories and puts up with you, that, you know, no woman, you meet at a bar, the deal with and so if because of the knowledge that she will stick around with your slimy. And when it comes to whatever it is that, that hells wait that holds value that she knows who you are, verses a stranger is even stranger you meet in Vegas as expectations. I would know about that. All right. That was cats corner this week. To get some stuff off your chest doing now. Let's go zero two hundred real quick. Rayle fucking twig Negga. Ciro. What the back inside the cable round in caves. Three of us. You got this week camping along. I was going to take my daughter and put her in this expensive ask summer camp. But then I had enough pissing me. I work part time up would I if them the majority of my check to do things with my own child? So my daughter, and I took some time out, we made most Tempe summer plan ever in its around my work schedule, and I'm blessed to have a job that she can come to work with me. But. We're doing. We're living together, we're not holding our phones, wishing or watching someone else do it where we're living it. And we're doing step one of it, which is planning it out in even planning with my daughter is an exciting adventure. So while yeah, a lot of times these programs there. The helpless. I think sometimes we can take some of those days and actually spend invest in the people that are gonna take care of us later and build some good ass memories may use that money toward, you know, love with your kids. Are you? Like you like the record everything. You're the daughter, does your child does, or do you like I'm actually guilty of not having a picture up because all school. I live in the damn moment. How dare I hold my phone while my daughter's blowing her Kate. Like, are you serious? I'm holding the cell phone while she's hanging with friends. I'm watching I'm looking with my eyes. I mean motion really connecting. Somebody told me that when you like recording like events they said going record it while like recorded without looking at it through the fall, always looking at on the get that. The heart of you. We forget, there's a smell connected to memories. There's stern and there's a sound and there's a we see. And we are always looking at things versus feeling the temperature of the room when that magical thing happened that temperature will happen again. And you're gonna remember that movie I think we depend too much on memory that is physical our brains. The human grain is come along bucking way, we can we can remember guys like if doesn't have to be reported in feed. Remember? What you got this week. That's a good one cat, what you got this week's life. My thing for this week is some summers are most of the schools out, raise schools, high schools and this one thing on our mind employer. We do some program, where some, some of the kids get to work with us. Right. The one one incident happened today. So the young man comes he's not wearing a belt. Of course, you know, the type of work, I do when you're going to be outside. You're gonna get dirty. This young man thinks it was cool or if appropriate to not welfare to work. So he learned out the hallway how difficult it is to work for four hours on a half hours after pull up your pants every two or three steps you take, you know, and that nobody. That works with you or why you outside working in public wants to see your eyes or you're thirty draw so behind, you know, so. That, that, that's that was my bright on my little gripe. I think all the, the older gentlemen, oughta older men at work. Daily view of why he said, well built in should have built on tomorrow when he turns to work in on the next day when he returns to work and he agreed. No, we wouldn't try to as them anything. But hey we can't finish our job, because, you know, you slowing us down because every two three steps you literally pulling your pants backup. Good lesson. Learn. They're realistic air. Wanna give a kill yourself and start over. Let's see. I can't really say the person that never stopped you before. And you've been snitching years, this golf, okay? Well, anybody anybody that's if you get a phone call from someone who's locked up? And before you can even say how you doing? Whatever like that. You begging him for money like, bro. He's locked up. You begging the Nerva unique like how you going big somebody, who's incarcerated for some money? Kill yourself Storrow you know who you are man. You can't. How, how do you fix your mouth to? Also around my round the cave a scat this to Winnie way. 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For special. For most special they knew. Inside the cage swang, pay ladies tougher to tell through ladies. Let's talk about it with sly on inside the cafes. Late way can your way. Heard a bribe. People being Bryce being a bridezilla Ryan, and I've never heard of a groom Vienna, grooms, Zillow. But since we got I'm very guy and a non very lady is your Wednesday cat. What are your brooms and don't show must do and don'ts for your wedding for your guest to abide by, if that for your wedding or the reception? I mean, I think number one like the real do is like do be here to celebrate us. Like I don't I don't I don't wanna tell what they can't can't do. I guess, in a sense, but I definitely I prefer like an intimate gathering. I don't wanna have to tell them what to do. I'm just invited twenty of my homeys. We're gonna party hard like I think these weddings for other people that's, that's not going to guarantee your life. If gonna be great so don't invest your money for something like that. 'cause I would rather buy a property with my spouse than have a big wedding, that the a little older, the young fan, fear. But let me let me paint a little picture the now you mentioned not wanting to live your life through a camera while you're filming feeling your dog while you with your daughter. So. Imagine nowadays, you invite somebody feel wedding. Everybody's on their phone Facebook, live in your wedding, or whatever I. Question like no phones are allowed in my way. You got married thousand seven. There was no social media. I was I was. Here. I don't need a hundred people standing up trying to look at my ass is I walk. Virginis having a private gathering and everybody going live, and, and social, I, I could not have met my, my little cousin got married and I it was so different from when I got there everybody they falls on now that, yo this, this should be like sun intimate, man. 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116Kristin RowanLeveraging PR and Logistic Strategies during a Large-Scale Event Emergency

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116Kristin RowanLeveraging PR and Logistic Strategies during a Large-Scale Event Emergency

"Three I'm. Ready to get started. You're going to have to stay off Newton whether we hear maximum not. She's my favorite little star of all that we're ideas a history. Yeah, thank you so much for being on the show today so I was curious How have you been handling the quarantine? If you picked up any hobbies, kristen, or or you just or is it like me or I'm just binge watching the office for the third for the third time in two months, and listening to the Jim Dale Harry Potter's over and over again there may be a little binge watching and it may or may not be shows. I watched several times. But I really have have taken the extra time to focus on stuff around the house. boring stuff I reorganized. My Garage got rid of a bunch of stuff. And now we have room in there for more stuff to accumulate. I. Think is really what it what it is. But just those little things we are, you know cleaning and organizing and redoing things and have been focusing on that. And then of course having kids at home who are also still going to school every day and doing there's no meetings and it really have a lot of extra time you. You would think that did But Yeah had enough to do a little binge watching this is small. Biz Buzz. I'm Derek. Carr you and we are here today. With perennial hosts crystal and our guest. Today is Kristin Ruin Kristin. Do you want to tell her audience a little bit about what you do sure? Currently I am the director of marketing and public relations and sales for Square Entertainment Parent Company for Phoenix. Fusion very cool, and for those of you who may may not be in the know, you might know being expand fusion as Phoenix previously as Phoenix. COMECON I'm not certain I didn't clear this with you. I only have a speculative idea as to why the name was changed and I don't want to make I don't WanNa. Make a Apocryphal statement so. Can, you talk at all about why there was a branding? The branding shift came through an agreement between squaring entertainment and San Diego Comic Con. In light of the ongoing legal entanglement that they have with Salt Lake. That is more more or less what I had heard know we hear lots of things that are not accurate so actually. We changed the name to for one year to Phoenix cummock. Fest an that name change and rebranding predated the agreement with San Diego we really are CEO and our company as a whole made the decision that we wanted to remove ourselves from. Any of the any of what was going on. We wanted to focus on having a great show of if you've been around and you've been a geek for any length of time and have been attending our show, you know that twenty seventeen was a very rough show for us. and going into two thousand eighteen. We needed to be able to focus on the show and putting on a great show for the for the attendees who were coming and doing everything that we could do to make it a safe show for everybody who was coming and. Trying to worry about whether or not we would be. Wrapped up in a different issue at the same time was just not something. We were interested in doing To get ahead of it, we did we did. We did the name change? Ahead of we now have an agreement with San Diego But. but we. We did the name change preemptively because we just needed to focus on on our show, we put on a great show for people and we really just wanted to make sure that it was as good as it could be without having to worry about anything else. Stephanie a crazy world bike. All the things to have to worry about Crazies. People crazy pandemics. It's like never ending the stuff that gets thrown at events especially these days it murdering Hornak instead I mean yeah. What's next like I feel like? It just gets you know I. Don't know if you've ever played that game or seem mostly. Children play that game where somebody starts a story. You know the kids once upon a time this happened, and then they pass the ball to somebody else, and and then it gets bigger and bigger. And then pandemic waves, everybody up and then murder Hornets game. The last year totally sounds like an episode of axe cop. Yeah, the murder Hornets one really does get me on top of the pandemic, and then you see those pictures of the murder Hornet. Keep me away from that murder Hornet. Oh, absolutely! Yeah, it's it's definitely it's. And it's now. It's to the point of just ridiculous you know. I'm a little curious as a marketer myself about rebranding. You know that can be a big process. So what did you guys kind of do to ensure that you brought your customers in fans along with these rebrand? What did you do to? Get the name out there, so people were able to associate with the previous awesome events. He through our rebranding is never easy. I. Don't recommend it. If not if you don't have to write if you have an established brand, don't change things. You know But but what made it more difficult was that we rebranded twice in. To answer your question. What did we do from a marketing standpoint? The first thing we did was we started early. You know we had the advantage of course phoenix. Only, being a once a year show, so we announced the name change on the final day of Phoenix Comic Fest Two Thousand Eighteen that I definitely recommend if you're going to do a rebranding start early and do a lot of crossover people. People's associate with the old name, so use it, so we did a lot of Phoenix, comic fast formerly Phoenix COMECON. Wicked a lot of obviously we kept the logo the same. We changed the name inside the local, but we kept the logo. We kept the colors the same. We kept We have some branded characters. cartoon animated characters that are. Part of our show and have been for a long time. We kept all of that. some of the elements inside the show. We kept the same and didn't change the names of those things. There are some some of the smaller events that people have come to to really know and love that we kept exactly the same with that same with the same wording and everything so my advice is start early. Repeat the old name in the new name together as often as possible. And keep as much the same as you can. So I was really curious. for those of you who don't know in are familiar with with. Comic Conventions in General Phoenix is actually one of the larger ones in the country. And if you haven't been, you might be imagining like a conference center, and like some booths Hillary typical convention in, you would be super wrong. It absolutely dominates downtown. What's your current attendance count? So in twenty sixteen? We were well past one hundred thousand mark the numbers, since then so we are attendance has gone up anywhere between ten and thirty percent annually since twenty ten thirty percent. Yeah, there were some years where we had a thirty percent jump and what's crazy? Is We count? Count you know when you're planning a show like that. Usually count on a ten percent increase because that's pre-. That was pretty much what we were used to. And then when you have that thirty percent increase, it's not accounted for in you. Don't have enough staff so yeah. It was a ten to thirty percent increase every year from two thousand ten to twenty sixteen in twenty seventeen, our sales and attendance were on track to meet or beat that hundred and six thousand that we had twenty sixteen on the opening day of twenty seventeen. All of that changed. And our attendance dropped considerably. Can you speak to why that change happened? We had a an armed. Threat Onsite at Phoenix COMECON during opening day, Thursday afternoon somebody came through with multiple live weapons, and unfortunately at that point there were a lot of people who left and a lot of people who didn't feel safe coming back for the rest of the weekend, and about fifty percent of our sales happen on site when people show up to the show, and that number dropped dramatically that year. The that's absolutely staggering, and by the way I was there I was there I was at I was at the convention that day and Found out basically the same way everybody else did and I WANNA I don't WanNa. Put this out real fast. The fact that I was in attendance that day, and only heard it as rumors. You guys did an amazing job. You did an amazing job. The Phoenix Police Department did an amazing job. The LAPD did an amazing job. This could have been so much worse than it was, and it's a terrible thing for me to say because I imagine you guys lost an impossible amount of money, but the fact that nobody was harmed in a world where this stuff happens way frequently I like I just want to say hats off to you guys and hats to everybody. That was there that day. That made sure that nobody got hurt Eric. You're so rate and thank you for that I think you are among the many many thousands of people who were on site that day, and had no idea anything happened. You also made like changes quick I. Remember the news around it. You made like quick changes in pivoted fast. The following days I had less than twelve hours I had less than twelve hours to pick I was impressed because I worked at Arizona Mills in their marketing department, and we did have a couple similar type incident. Did it change the way you look at? All the events going forward. Is that something you now consider each time you're but prior to the twentieth seventeen incident, we always did a threat assessment with the Phoenix Convention Center and the Phoenix Police Department. And had the level of security that we felt, and they felt was necessary for the show after 2017. That completely changed Yeah, we had less than twelve hours to completely change. Our Security Protocol are entrance protocol How are security company was running whether or not? We're looking for badges. All of that stuff everything changed the prop check. Stations got moved outside overnight The lines and entrance has got moved overnight. And then we changed it again as we went along so and from my perspective during the show at that point we had five directors are owner who are all hands on deck but you know the show was still going on, so we had guests arriving. Friday morning, and so our director of talent relations. was with all of the guests handling that we still had all of the programming and events going on, so our director of programming was busy doing that so really that just left a handful of us. And the cues and the setup that we had for security Friday morning were not working, and so my job as the director of marketing was to be communicating all of that. Here's where you go. Here's the best way to get in. Here's the quickest way to get in. Here's what you can bring in. Here's what you can't bring in constant communication the whole time, and then pivoting the plan as we're going along. This line needs to move over here. We need to a no bag line over here when you to add eight line over here we need. It was a constant shuffle until by Saturday morning which. Is By far the busiest day that we have and the most people trying to get through security. We had that wait time down to about ten minutes for everybody which was fantastic, but it was. It was a thirty six hours of constant changing the plan updating pivoting changing it again, improving it and communicating that. The entire time. And I think from that perspective. There so much of that twenty seventeen show that I just don't remember. I hope you took a vacation. After that. My Gosh, I I would have needed a bottle of wine every night and a vacation immediate right? Unfortunately, we went back to the office because on because we had to start putting out statements on how we're going to change things. For the next year, we immediately moved into planning for the next show And and to make sure that we had all of the information out that we needed. We had to meet with the Convention Center to create a new plan for the next show. Because it all had to be different, it was Yeah, there's there was so much going on at the same time and. You know just from a marketing perspective, constant communication, the more often in a situation like that the more often you can communicate what's going on and I? Think that's my the media. Reacted the way they did. Initial reports were. Some of the more bad. but as we continue to put out information as we. Talked about our new security plan. As we talked about the safety protocol we had as we talked about all of the things that we were actively doing immediately. The media did kind of turnaround and started talking about how proactive we were being and. And in in trying to to to fix that, so there was a lot of focus on other things and I think that was really great, but then media did a great job. They covered what they needed to cover. They were they were there. They got the whole story talked to everyone who was involved our local media. Really did they really did a fantastic job covering at I, was I was very pleased with how that how that Kinda rolled out. Yeah I. I was impressed. Spin on the flip side of it in the past and being like wow, I mean it does go to show how important communication is because I think the more you guys were communicating sharing what you were doing. The more the media was able to share a different type of story than just. This is what happened. So I think that was really smart. I wanted to ask Kristen, so we've discussed how huge this event is, and it's it is massive. Some. People might be shocked at how many time staffers are with square. Could you talk about that? Because people might be asking right now? This is a small business podcast I'm not. I'm not putting on an event for a quarter million people so I. Don't know like why we're why we're talking about this. There are a lot of companies that put on comic conventions and other types of conventions as their fulltime job, and they have a large staffs, and and they have a huge teams of people, and so it's difficult to kind of wrap your head around. Why is this a small business You guys are small business podcast onsite. We have two hundred and fifty to three hundred part time temporary crew along with some third party service providers at work with us but year round We have six. That is insane, amazing getting so much done with with a core group of that size rate, and and it's. We, we joke a lot. A lot of the people who have been who are on the staff have been with square egg. Since before it was squaring entertainment. A lot of them were volunteers Going back to two thousand six. People who've been with the show now for ten. Ten or more years. So when so when our CEO started adding fulltime top, he added a lot of volunteer, so they have a lot of experience with it. One of it one of the inside jokes we have in the offices that every one of us has sort of volunteered or worked in different areas, conventions or this convention, but we are now all in the positions we are meant to be in. The people that we have are so good at what they do and I don't want to. You know I don't want to say it's easy. It's a lot of work to put on the commission especially with so few people, but we just have. We have an amazing team and so. They're all really good at what they do, and that makes it a little bit easier, but we are most definitely a small business. We are local. Small Business started in two thousand and two by our CEO. who used to be a local anime store owner? Which store you know! I knew you were Gonna ask that as soon. I opened my mouth and there's no way I could tell you that I have. Okay cool. I was impressed, actually kristen by the list of jobs that you tackle just even yourself. I can't even believe. I was reading We have like a little doctor. Put together to kind of prep for shows and get a little familiar and I saw. Let's see I saw marketing. Obviously social media PR I feel like I'm missing stuff. Those are the ones that I relate to. Because that's kind of what I do, but I was like. I can't believe the list goes on and on from here. That is like a for this kind of event size I was shocked that you do all that. Work will thank you. I think when you work in a small business when you have that small business mentality. We all wear those hats. We all wear a lot. Hats Yeah, I do marketing all of the social media. All of the customer service so customer service emails, incoming and phone calls coming in all of the paid advertising I oversee all the graphic design. I am not a graphic designer I don't do the refugee, but I do oversee all the graphic design do all of the PR I do all of the onsite pr, so all of the liaising with the local news outlets that come and covered the show any on air or read press releases that have to go out I do also do all of our sponsorships so so crystal was talking about your your. Your expertise. I was curious how you can. How you managed to bring that expertise to bear on such a diverse set of niche interests because there's there's another misconception that a lot of people have about COMECON who've never attended and that is that Congress for people that like comic books and the Truth and yes, that is that is tangentially accurate, but. People go there for dozens possibly hundreds of sub interests, some of them having nothing to do with comic books, some people go there because they're into their into cost play, or they're into sword replicas, or they're into custom dice, or they're into Waie novelization, or are they just WanNa see or like I? was there I really wanted to see Curtis Armstrong who was booger from revenge of the NERDS, and he was a delight, and that's part of the reason that I went one year. There really is just A. There's a lot to do and a lot to take in and I'll tell you I have learned more. About. ANIME and steam punk. And Table Top RPG's. and. Twelve sided dice than I ever thought. I would do. But again you know when you're when you're in that small business mentality. You draw on what you have. And you and you? Find the support for for what you don't have. Our director of programming knows. Everything there is to know about comic books. I grew up reading the old superman comic books, and that's where my expertise stocks I also saw Christopher Reeves ones, and I used to watch with my mom, and I love the orient like that. The POW Bang Watch all the Adam West. Yeah totally so I. I mean with you. My my expertise with come Mexican comic book characters of stops like thirty years ago, but Joe knows everything so when we have a you know when we have to write a social media, posts or an ad for comic book artist. That's coming out. I go I just go back to Joe and say hey, Joe, what about this guy and he will tell me all the stuff that is great about that comic book are put that out You know our COO. Matt ran an anime store. He knows a lot about anime. So when we talk about the audiences for marketing, and who we should be targeting for this anime crowd, I, you know I, don't spend the time looking at stuff up I. Go to the people that I know who already know it That's not to say that I haven't had to learn a whole lot of things that I didn't think I would but when you run a small business. When you are. You, always wear those hats. You always wear multiple hats. Small Business Owners. You guys know you are every department and. There's not time in a day or a week or a year to become an expert on the things that you have to be an expert as per small business. So I hire, people who are smarter than me We you know we started doing all lot more social media in the last four years and we have to do the the snapchat and we have to do the. Things. You know I'm old, and I don't do that I. Don't understand it I don't get it so I hired. Somebody who has a similar background has the same advertising expertise that I have, but his way younger, and does the snapchat so he. You know like great. That's yours taken over right? It's all you So I think it's more about. Finding. Finding that support that we all as small business owners and I've I've owned small businesses before I came to work here. We reach out to the people that we that we know we reach out to the experts that we have and hopefully as small business owners were working together. You know. I did as a small business owner for the last fifteen years. I did a lot of trade. I did a lot of Hey I'll do this marketing thing for you if you'll do this thing for me. And sharing that expertise with other small business, so we can keep each other afloat and I think reaching out to those people the networking stuff. Crystal we were talking earlier about how this zoom thing is kind of killing. US 'CAUSE! We're all at home. But there are so many opportunities whether it's online virtually or once we can actually do this in person. Ten Network with other small businesses find the people who have the expertise that you don't have. And and help support each other and we you know you become this sort of small business web that all that has the power of some of the larger companies and I think that has been really key for us. Is that is that we have those people that we can rely on it so imperative? At previous companies I've worked I worked with small business owners in the past and I think one of the main things I see there and working here that small businesses can do to really move. The needle is working with other small businesses and doing outreach marketing and trade similar to what you're talking about to really move the the customers from one type. Type thing they like in something similar around you know around the same area and actually you do a lot of that was great because at the fusion fan fusion. You guys also work with several small businesses that are vendors there, right? Can you tell us what it's been like working with other small businesses and making that kind of vendor area coming life? Yeah we so we work with anywhere between six and eight hundred different vendors in any given year. In addition to the third party companies that we work with so we hire out for security and audiovisual, and all that an higher locally as well and then we partner with local nonprofits and local organizations. That that work with us as well so it's. The and we do work with national companies. We're not going to not work with national companies, but so much of what we do is small business related. And I feel like because we're a small business I think that we understand it a little bit more. Than maybe some of the other larger companies that do what we do. we you know. We set that up with facebook events during our show so that the vendors can post links to their stuff and tell people what their booth number is. We, you know we. Just now because our show is actually supposed to be going on right now, not sure if you know, we're definitely going to get into that to opening day was yesterday so we posted yesterday a a social media post inviting all of the vendors to once again. Put their link up in that post so that if our? Fans and friends who are missing. How'd on fantasia fusion this? We can decide they WANNA. Do a little geeky shopping. They can go straight back to the vendors that we already work with. So just trying to help support them. trying to help give them kind of a leg up. We offer discounted advertising in our program Guide and on our website for vendors that we you know we don't offer to sponsors or outside. Companies if you're part of the show, you're part of the family, so we you know we give you all those opportunities to do that because without them. We don't have a show like There are so many were were a small where small business we have very few employees and we rely on. The vendors and the attendees and the panelists and the performers those are the people that make the show we organize it I mean we plan at, but they're the ones who are creating it and you know without those people who are creating the show. We wouldn't have much of a show and I. Think we. We appreciate that and we try to give back to those companies as much as possible to make sure that we're all doing this as well one feel like small businesses are more apt to to that than some of the larger ones. Okay I was curious with twenty twenty, having been kind of A. Brutal test bed for fertilizer remote work I was curious. If there's already been discussion about creating more virtual attendance, portals for future shows like being able to say like being able to watch. You know you can't attend for some reason you're you're in Taiwan but you WANNA, Watch, George decays keynote speech anyway. Webex in on that or something like that so right now we don't have that capability. It is something that has been brought up one of the disadvantages of being a small business, the logistics, the manpower and the cost to do something like that. Are Beyond our capabilities at this point. There are a few shows that have done it successfully blizzard. Con is one of them bliss. CON offers a virtual ticket every year. which is great, but but also blizzard. Rate it's also blizzard rate like they can afford I mean. When you offer a like a Webex streaming, some kind of a virtual ticket option if they you know inside the conventions, are you have to have hardline Internet capabilities in every room that you're going to offer that virtual? It's it's not cheap. Yeah, it's not to have a solid streaming service setup. It's thousands of dollars and that's for like one day. You know it's A. A lot of money rate and it's per room so if we have our celebrity guests or a gaming tournament or you know a a live performance and we wanted to live stream any of that. It's about ten thousand dollars in internet cost her room. You're talking about you know we would. We would need to be able to sell a hundred thousand virtual tickets. In order to make that even viable and then having you know hiring people who have the expertise to do that and twenty four hour it staff, because the likelihood of that happening across, however may of course the number of rooms you guys have which I I'm. GonNa conservatively say is in the dozens across at least three buildings. Correct correct. Would I mean you literally would have to have an IT team on staff twenty four hours a day for four right and the alternative is that we only stream the really big deal panels, and then it's a matter of deciding which ones are people gonna WanNa Watch. What do you charge for a convention that you're only getting to attend sense of what you? You know so. There's all of that stuff off and at this point when we have so few people working for the company, we have so few people who are focused on getting off the ground. It's just not. It's just not realistic. At this point. We're already stretched and we're already wearing. All of these hats were already doing all of the jobs that were doing. Adding this to it would require adding one or two full time staff members year round to plan all of that. There's not a lot of history in in virtual cons for to see whether or not that would be whether or not viable business model We know that there are people who are going to be uncomfortable coming back to large events this year or even next year because of the pandemic. We know that they're going to be people who are going to be concerned and maybe they won't come and may be. The attendance will be down. We also know that trying to be everything to everyone. His. Not something in a small business can do as much as we want to. As much as we would love to be everything to everyone small businesses, one of the best things small businesses can do is to recognize their own limits. And that is one of ours right now. It's just it's. It's been like I said it's been talked about. It's just not realistic for us right now. Road on, and that's and that's. That's pretty common. Silly! If you're the, it's GONNA. Take a while to vet whether or not that's GonNa going to be viable for you. Guys for listeners if you if you need info on the logistics of running virtual events, we actually have a blog about that if you go to. Be It dash, L. Y. or billy to people who are over the age of twenty slash, keep virtual event. That's bitterly forward. Slash keep virtual event and we've got a blog post about virtual events on our on our website and I just wanted to hop in here and say you. Kinda hinted about having to pivot once again with events. Because of the coronavirus, so can you tell us a little bit about what you guys have done What you're looking forward to and then the last question I'm going to have before. We have to start closing this thing out. Is I really WANNA? Know what are the positives about events because I still believe small business owners. You know they might be planning an. An event for a quarter million but events are a great way to kind of connect, so I'd like to hear some of the things. You're really grateful about events, but let's dive into this pivot real quick sure I mean obviously everything's changed. Starting with you know when when we when everybody's sort sort of started to realize that this was different. This is not. Doesn't look like the the the seasonal flu. There's this is different. There's something going on. You we start planning and we started planning early and often because I think for a small business. What's different is that we didn't have a team of PR. People and lawyers and all of us who can who can revise things so any revisions any statements that we make you know it's? It's one person you know we're. We sit down. We write stuff out by. Give it to the we talk about it, and it goes out so working on it early and often I had. You Know I. Still have the document with ten or twelve different versions of statements that we would put out depending on what happened over the last few weeks between the March first, and and whatever so lots, but pivoting to. For us for event planners pivoting from. Hey Hero, the guests we have coming out and here's all the events were planning and look at all this fun to. Virtually nothing when you're planning event. That gets postponed like that. We don't know which panelists are going to be available. We don't know which rooms were going to have in the Convention Center. We don't know what guests are still going to be available. We don't know trying to coordinate the schedule for people who bosses are Disney or Sony, and if they say you're working on a Wednesday, you're working on a Wednesday absolutely and they're filming schedule. Was Stopped. The same as our schedule was stopped, and they don't know when it will resume if it resumes a week before our show in September. They're not coming. So. So for us, it was not so much a pivot as it was a full stop. It was we're postponing. Here are the new date. Here are the things you can do if you need to change your tickets around. And, then full stop. No guest announcements no planning nothing we've put out. We put out one post for a creators marketplace, pointing them to the website where they could find all of the vendors. We did a post on. We did a couple of social media, Posts and communications through. About the hotels because people who had hotel contracts needed to have that information on how to get out of their hotels, and when they could revoke their new hotels. And then we did a social media post only yesterday for the what would have been the opening of our exhibit hall again, inviting the vendors to to to put their links up. But other than that the marketing communication stops, you know it's different than a PR crisis and appear crisis. You have to have the right information and you have to communicate it early and often. And and widely spread. When, we when we postponed, we communicated at widespread immediately. As soon as we had all of the information, we put out social media. We put out e mails. We put it on the website. We put it everywhere. We did a press release. went out everywhere, and then we just full stop because we don't have anything else to say. There is no more information and for us to to keep saying. Right. Now our attendees WANNA know WHO's coming. They want to know what's going to happen. They want to know what's going to happen at the show. And we don't have that information rather than if we if we talk at all. The only question is is going to be there. And the answer is the same we are continuing to work with all of the guests in agents to determine which ones have them are available in September soon as we have, that information will ever to Rano. But if that's the only answer you can give. It's like giving the same press conference over and over and over again on the Positive Kristen I. Mean you can say for all you furry. September is a much better month to where you're in costumes than June or may sell 'cause players. Yes, I was A. Playing at the android terrible, it is in Phoenix I mean I. Don't know how they do it I see them on the on the news and I'm like. How are you wearing that right now? Like I wish I could walk around bathing totally so hot. But Anyway let's end on a positive because you definitely know the benefit of events, so what are a couple of the benefits that make all this pivoting worth it for you, and for any other small businesses out there that are starting to dabble with with events I? Think one of the things. For especially for small businesses that is so true. and I go back to this all the time. Why do you do what you do? As small business owners, we don't do it because we want to get rich because it's so hard to do that as a small business owner like. We're not. We're not doing it. Why do you do what you do and if what you do, if if y you do what you do is important enough. Then the benefits to it we'll we'll still be there. The benefits and especially I mean there are a lot of small businesses that run virtually completely online now. Anyway, so the you know, the whole state humping hasn't hasn't changed anything, but when he whether you run events, or whether you have a small storefront, or whether you attend events to promote your your business, the the human contact, the human interaction, the connection that we make and I think that we are in that are that we are trained to make s business owners, because so much of what we do is based on those relationships that we have is why we do what we do. And you know when people ask me what I love about this job. Why do I do this? I mean I work route eighteen to twenty hours a day for five days straight for this event it. It's ridiculously exhausting. and. It's a lot of work for a very small team. People ask me. Why do you do it? Why did he do it and I? Tell them this story. About an event that we put on actually in Saint Paul a couple of years ago of a about a young man. Who walked into the space for the comic event and he was nervous. He was. his body language was very closed off, his arms were tucked in his shoulders, hunched over. He was looking at the floor, and just. Not At all comfortable. With him in his own skin. And somebody helped him over to get his pass, and he got his badge, and he took a spin around. He went downstairs and and went through the exhibit hall. And he came back upstairs and it was like this was a different person. He was chatting with people. He was sharing stories. He did his Indiana Jones impression for me. He stopped me. I mean I was standing outside sort of just talking to people. From the marketing perspective, just sort of talking to a lot of the attendees finding out how they were doing, he joined the conversation. Started doing impressions talked an and the. Guy talked a mile a minute. His face was lit up. He was standing up straight. He was looking people in the eye. This were two different people from the guy who walked in a little bit before that. And that is what we do. We create a world. Where people who you know, and I know Derek. You said that you're a self, proclaimed geek in your own right and crystal. I know you are as well. They. People these people grew up on the outside, being a tabletop Gamer, playing dungeons and dragons was something that we kept secret from people. You. We didn't show people obsession with comic books and anime movies and. Any of the other. Genre, that we were passionate about, we didn't share that with you'll because it was. It was nerdy. It was it was it was embarrassing it at made you different than it made you a geek, and it gave people something to make fun of you for and we create a world. Where not only do you not have to hide that, but you can walk in any direction and find fifty other people who spent their entire lives, not only not only passionate about the same niche John that you are. But understand what it was like to live that way. And in no longer has to live that way when they walk into this event. Yeah, and you realize were basically a whole world of geeks. NERDS Dorks, because everyone has their thing they get excited about. I think when I hear. It's like a quarter of a million people going to these events. It gets me really excited because you're not alone. Everyone is into this kind of stopped our tagline for Phoenix. Fan Fusion is discover your inner. Geek and we've firmly believed that there is a deacon every single one of us. We all geek out about something and to be able to tell people that it's okay to geek out about whatever you WANNA. Geek, out about finding that passion, find the niche that you belong to and find the world that makes you comfortable, and we get to spend every day leading up to a four day show creating a world where that's okay for so many people. And I've watched it so many times where I have watched people. Realize that they are in a safe place with people who love the same things they love. And that that face to face interaction. Does Not happen with an online convention. It does not happen with a web meeting. It does not happen with virtual shopping. It does not happen with online anything. Do you know that I get a sense memory reaction from the smell of the Convention Center, right? That's a real thing. I was there for I was there for a symphony event? I was there for a symphony event and I smelled the Convention Center and I got very emotional thinking about going to comecon next year. Eric was so touched by what you said that he had started crying a little because I like why isn't there? But it does it does I grew up? I grew. We are so overtime, but like I'm really locked in. I was born like I'm in my mid forties, and so I grew up in the eighties when being a nerd was genuinely not cool, there was no upside to it. You had to find other people that were also outcasts and hide the things you love from the rest of the world. Right so Derek Yours your. You For your age ratings. In. I I gotTA. Tell You I. You know I grew up with the comic books. I grew up with the Superman. I was a nerd in my own right, but for different things and a lot of other people were, but in some way I think I've been on both sides of it because I remember I distinctly remember. Being invited over to my high school boyfriend's house, you know I was sixteen and Bright, eyed and. He said I'm having some friends over come over and feeling all grown up, you know my boyfriend's having friends overhead. We have people and I remember the feeling. I. Can still picture the horrified. Look on my face when I walk downstairs to find my boyfriend and two of his friends. Playing Gertz. I know Gerg's I. I figured you did know Herbs Derek. Because you. You grew up as a as a geek to and I tried. I swear I tried. I sat down, and I listened and I watched the whole thing and I thought you know this is my boyfriend and I'm into this and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa do this because I love him and. I can't do it Derek Crystal. I can't do it I. Don't understand it, but by the way for the folks at home is is generic universal role playing system. Basically, it's a it's a baseline for games either yeah I. Fall I actually get amazed that people can do it like Ducey our producer. He loves dungeons and dragons. I love all the stuff. It's just not my thing. I can't Ram. Not good at it. I don't fit in I can't figure it out. How so you have the Gerke thing, but I would have been out. Yeah, I'll tell you I left that night thinking. Oh, I might need to rethink this relationship. Gerber groups is pretty deep in the nerd pocket like it's even because there's nerdy stuff that like even other nerds as Nerdy for me, the thing about something like a comet convention thing about that going to a comic bookstore going to a video game or cade going going to these places in person, the thing is that it doesn't matter because if you. You Walk into a local comic bookstore. You're gonNA find things that are not comic books. If you walk into a local tabletop gaming store, you're gonNA find things that are not table. There's something for everyone and finding that I think is the key I. Think especially now. We're all locked at home. People are upset. People are depressed. People are handling things well. When we can go out again. All of the all of people who feel like they're something there that they're not okay that they're not the same as everybody else that there's something wrong with them. find that genre find that niche. So where can they find all things? Phoenix Fan fusion to make sure they stay up to date with the event coming in September. Where can they go well? The best thing to do is follow us on social. Media Phoenix at Phoenix Fan fusion on facebook and Instagram we communicate there more often more regularly than anywhere else, but of course, also the website at Phoenix Confusion Dot Com. You can sign up for our newsletter directly from the website so that you get all of our email communication that goes out as well but social media by far has the most recent and best information great. We WanNA. Make sure that all GEEKS and nerds dorks like all of us on this call find their home and can find it at Phoenix, Fan fusion so thank you so much for being on today it was a great conversation about all things, events and pivoting and all things that small business owners need a little break from reality to be real. Absolutely, it's a lot of fun to have conversations. Somebody other than my dog, so I appreciate that. Thank you so much. And that's a wrap today for small business. Thanks for listening to small Biz buzz. Please take a second to subscribe to the show and leave a five star rating it helps keep the show going, and if you need a hand with growing your small business head over to keep dot com. That's K. E.. Dot Com and get started more business less work. That's keep. Everyone today show is brought to you by beauty and the boss by Shehade, these source for professional development for your inner boss lady might. 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AP Headline News Apr 05 2019 20:00 (EDT)

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04:50 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Apr 05 2019 20:00 (EDT)

"Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's employee of the month two months in a row. Leave a message at the. Hi, jamie. It's me, Jamie. I just had a new idea for our song about the name your price tool. So when it's like tell us what you want to pay. Hey, and the trombone goes, blah, blah, blah. And you say we'll help you find coverage options to fit your budget. Then we just all do finger snaps while a choir goes, savings coming at ya. Savings coming at ya. Yes. No. Maybe. Anyway, see you practice tonight. I got new lyrics for the rap break. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. This April prepare to meet Cathy sparkle fingers. No, it's not. Sam you're him. Here. The hero just say the words. Though. Hey, I'm superhero Shas am in cinemas April five book tickets now. AP radio news. I'm Jacky Quin. President Trump today meeting with immigration agents at the California border with Mexico since the US can't accommodate anymore asylum-seekers intake, you our countries full. Areas. Full two sectors full can't take anymore. I'm sorry. Can't happen. So turn around. That's the way it is. He alleges that many of those trying to come in from Central America are really gang members. The president showcasing and enhance section of border wall marked with a plaque bearing his name house. Democrats have just filed suit to try to block President Trump from using emergency powers to use Pentagon money to build a border wall. It's similar to legal action filed by the state of California. And it's attorney general heavy bizarre. Six point seven billion dollars that had been earmarked for the various drug interdiction projects or asset forfeiture funds that are used to help us in fighting crime. And this just in from California. A federal judge has ruled that the sales of high capacity ammunition magazines has to stop an injunction is in place as the attorney general appeals court order that throughout the state's ban. In Phoenix police chief Jerry Williams says that tips helped lead police to a suspect charged in a road rage shooting that killed a ten year old girl in her driveway. He's been identified as twenty year old Joshua Gonzales. He has been booked into jail on one count of first degree murder and three counts of aggravated assault. It was twenty five years ago that Nirvana's Kurt Cobain was found dead in Seattle. Dozens of people are leaving candles flowers and messages at a park near the house where Cobain killed his self on Wall Street. The Dow gained forty points today. The NASDAQ up forty six on a strong jobs report. This is AP radio news. Former vice president Joe Biden appears to be hinting at a twenty twenty presidential bid meeting with union workers today and later addressing complaints about inappropriate touch by then hugged union, president on stage joking. He had permission. He later told reporters he sorry. He didn't understand more. How his actions might have affected the women but said he's not sorry for his intentions. I've never been disrespectful intentionally to a man or woman. The joking approach did not play well with Lucy Florus than Evatt politician who said Biden kissed her on the back of the head in twenty four teen. She tweeted to make light of something as serious as consent degrades the conversation. Saga megani? Washington. Former CIA operative. Valerie plame says that she's considering a twenty twenty bid for a US open congressional seat in New Mexico. I'm Jacky Quin AP radio news. The all new Toyota RAV four asks what if what if your ride was refined Rudman at the same time. Introducing the all new route four hybrid two hundred eight combined horsepower and standard all wheel drive make it the most powerful wrath four plus with its head turning style. And breakaway speed. It's bound to change the way you think of a hybrid the all new rat for hybrid, so Yoda, let's go places horsepower. Ratings achieved using required premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of ninety one premium fuel is not used the forms with grace and no an ad from dad. All right. Save money on car insurance when you bundle home and auto with progressive. Gotta take these off. Right. What is this? Wow. Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair. Yeah. Where did you get this? Good stuff. Solid. That's not veneer that solid stuff. Progressive can't save you from becoming your parents, but we can save you money when you bundle home and auto. Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations.

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AP Headline News Jan 09 2019 19:00 (EST)

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04:30 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Jan 09 2019 19:00 (EST)

"I hate you with the rhinestone collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of grade to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash. Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low as three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance. Ask a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage is a division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS three thousand nine hundred one. AP radio news. I'm Tim Maguire the meeting with congressional leaders from both parties and President Trump was short and fractious later in a tweet Trump called it a waste of time said a democratic leader Chuck Schumer says Trump stormed out again, we saw a temper tantrum because he couldn't get his way. And he just walked out of the meeting. Vice President Mike Pence says Trump didn't raise his voice or slam. Fish speaker Pelosi that if he opened things up quickly if he reopened the government quickly would she be willing to agree to funding for a wall or a barrier on the southern border? And when she said, no, the president said goodbye, the results no progress in negotiations to end the nineteen day old partial government, shutdown FEMA workers union heads Steve Reeves says people who've had homes damaged or destroyed by weather or wildfires won't see anyone from his agency. But this means is any. Who needs insurance claims property damages ball were out and the American people ask where is FEMA were furloughed? The government isn't doing routine food inspections because of the partial shutdown, but the food and Drug administration is calling back one hundred fifty workers next week to inspect inspect risk, risky foods such as cheese infant formula and produce an heir Zona woman in a vegetative state who was sexually assaulted at a long care long term care facility and had a baby is recovering at a hospital long with their child. Phoenix police are gathering DNA from all male employees at the facility. Police sergeant Tommy Thompson processes we ask people voluntarily and sometimes people have the right to refuse. But then we come back with a court order, and then they have to do that a lawyer for the women women's family says they are outraged at the neglect of their daughter. The woman has been in a vegetative state since a near drowning accident ten years ago. This is AP radio news. News. Deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein is expected to leave his position soon after William bars confirmed as Turney general Rosenstein overseas, Robert Muller's Russia investigation AP's, Eric Tucker reports it's not clear why he's leaving. We don't have any indication that he has being forced out or is being asked to leave by the White House. Although we are hearing that Bill bar did tell some friends that he did definitely want his own number two Tucker as there's also not Cl it's also not clear how the department will act after Rosenstein, there are still other people within the department who would be involved in the work of Mahler. And there's a likelihood that Muller might be in his final stages. So that there aren't that many more weeks and months left for a new attorney general to be supervising. The investigation bar has a confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary committee next week. I'm Tim Maguire AP radio news heat. You. The rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of great to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash wealth. Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low as three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance asked a home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage is a division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. NMLS I d three nine nine hundred one.

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Le Show For The Week Of May 31, 2020

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57:53 min | 5 months ago

Le Show For The Week Of May 31, 2020

"From. Audio device choice. Win Soon. Shen A. To. A. Lack stimulus. So come selfies. With the. Doc. Lung. Do. A Head! Shot. To. Best? Scott. said. To. DOC Everybody thinks. To Join. The call. From nowhere near the corner of third and Fairfax in Southern, California. I'm Harry Shearer welcome you to way whatever happened to the pandemic edition of loose show in fact. Will Focus I. will nobody else here today on the other stuff that gets ignored when? Two stories. Dominate. The News of the week, not just one. Speaking of news. People are still I, guess discovering this. Nearly a dozen local US TV channels. Aired segments about Amazon. Then included footage script produced by. Amazon's PR department. As I. Say, this has been going on. Since, local TV news was invented pretty much. These were called video news releases. and. They were run as if there were news reports because you know we don't have enough staff to. The segments according to The Guardian newspaper. Appeared on at least eleven local news stations. Did they the segment? Praised Amazon's response to the coronavirus pandemic. Just ahead of the company's. Stockholders meeting. Following weeks of controversy over the company's handling. Of the COVID Nineteen Crisis Amazon has been accused of denying workers sick leave failing to provide adequate protection and warehouses, and retaliating against workers who speak out against those conditions I'd say that calls for a press release in response. It appears language and footage in the segment where part of a pre written story and onset around to reporters reporters. be blue man desks in TV stations in the United States. As Zach Rail. Report Oklahoma City Station Ko CEO. tweeted he'd received an email containing foot ten footage Amazon facilities in a script for the news anchor, which included phrases like quote for the first time. We're getting a glimpse inside Amazon's fulfillment centers to adjust how the company is keeping its employees safe and healthy. Let's go right now, sorry. Courier News outlet found at least eleven. Local stations had used the Amazon script premium. Outlets did did that. We're in West Virginia. Miami Tennessee Kentucky Georgia. Why does that come as a surprise? They'll look at me layaway. Video shows anchors of the stations repeating the same phrases including the company keeping its employees safe and healthy. When you, if you're going to run the video, you gotta use the script. Verbatim. And Amazon spokeswoman told The Guardian. It had been transparent that the video came from Amazon. And it was not a promotional video quote. We welcome reporters into our buildings, and it's misleading to suggest otherwise according the spokeswoman quote. This type of video was created a share, an inside look at the health and safety measures. We've rolled out in our buildings was intended for reporters, who for a variety of reasons weren't able to come to our one of our sites themselves. Unquote spokeswoman said the video package have been released as part of a Wire. Yeah probably PR news wire. The Oklahoma reporter said he was sent package directly from a PR representative at Amazon. There are confirmed corona virus cases in at least fifty Amazon warehouses. At least eight employees have died after contracting the virus, but that wasn't in the. Pack. The News. Really. As I say it's been happening. Since. They fired up the transmitters. And yet it's still news and now. News of Dominion. Is What I did. I just didn't pronounce it so. Totally goofy did I. I mean. It's hard to cool river water. Heated to temperatures that could kill salmon so the US environmental. Protection Agency now suggests Oregon and Washington. State change the designated uses of the Columbia and snake rivers. So there longer, they're no longer expressly for salmon. See, how easy that is! In a new report, the EPA outlined the legal rationale for lowering the bar on environmental standards when they're difficult to meet. Oregon Washington state of designated Salmon, habitats one of the official uses of the rivers. That means the state must take action to ensure their safe for salmon. Spawning in the migration thing. Under certain circumstances, states can decide that certain uses of the rivers like designated Salmon Habitat are. Not Attainable attainability analysis are usually applied in situations like superfund sites where the habitat has been so heavily polluted that you can forget about it. That's not the case in the snake. And Columbia rivers were every year, an average of two million salmon return to the rivers and streams of their birth and go. The hell happened here. It's absurd, says Brett. Van WHOVILLE executive director of the Columbia River Keeper Organization the Environmental. Group is a plaintiff in the lawsuit that forced the EPA to produce the report. Says then. They're suggesting that one option of addressing this conflict is to say we're not going to protect salmon from hot water, and we're not going to consider salmon's use of the river. UNQUOTE? The notes in its report that whether to launch an attainability analysis is up to the states, not the feds. But there are. Federal rollbacks will make it harder for states to enforce regulations under the Clean Water Act. So Seems like we're looking at the future. The EPA's court ordered report blamed sources outside its control. For its inability to ensure that major rivers once teaming with salmon almost year round remain. Habitable. If not teaming. It pointed to warming air temperatures caused by change and increased human use of the reservoirs behind the dams along the Canadian stretch of the Upper Columbia River. Blame Canada. But the report concluded, the main culprits are the basins for. Federal Dams that would be in the United States. Built and administered by the US Army. Corps of Engineers are old friends. They tried and the shallow reservoirs at Les Slack Behind. The dams which said there, soaking up the sun's rays as if that would mean, the water would get warm. If found river water heated by dams to temperatures, lethal to migrating salmon would not be sufficiently cooled by any actions. Humans might consider. Feasible. The Clean Water Act requires the federal government to measure pollution and determine the maximum amount of each pollutant that can be allowed while still protecting species. Salmon's in this case, the pollutant is heat. It's been killing salmon. Since the government started building dams nearly a century ago, but federal agencies have never issued a report evaluating he pollution. Something required. By the clean, Water Act. But. You know if you're GONNA. Have somebody violate? The law might as well be the. Government that made it alone. The report evaluates all causes of higher water temperature in the Columbia and snake. Determines how much pollution needs to be reduced the maximum water temperature salmon can take is sixty degrees Fahrenheit. Had Salmon this morning and he told me that it now, while unlike most economic studies, this one is legally binding under the clean water act. State of Washington issued rules requiring the report be part of the permitting process the Army Corps must undergo to operate its dams. The state has required the cord. Cool rivers, temperatures, Salmon can survive. Now Washington state has the form assessment. It needs to enforce those rules. The rivers could be cool by increasing the amount of water dam operators spill over instead of sent through the turbines they could also reduce the of water that sits behind the dams and those warm shallow. The report found such actions or lifelock likely a half-measure. Government agencies have modeled scenarios that would succeed in returning the rivers. To sixty eight or less. Now the proposal. has been debated for decades breaching the four federal dams on the lower snake. That was called for by Washington. Governor Jay Inslee is. Southern Resident ORCA taskforce. That is not a task force. Peopled with ORCAS that determined that the main problem facing endangered Orca is lack of the Chinook salmon they eat. A two thousand nine hundred economic study. Found that. The economic benefits of breaching the dams far outweigh those of keeping them operating. Van In. WHOVILLE says reaching the snake dams is an obvious choice. In February of this year, the core released its draft environmental impacts. They've been those are always good reading. The army cores environmental statements. That contained its plan to avoid causing the extinction of salmon by opening dams on the Columbia and snake. That was a sixth such document ordered by the court in a dispute going way back to two thousand one. When the space, addity, no, it found that breaching the four dams on the lower snake. Did the army corps would provide the highest benefits to endangered salmon. The rate of return for young salmon and steelhead migrating. Would improve by one hundred and seventy percent, according to the Army Corps but. It rejected that option. Because, of the loss of clean electricity, it would create. Because you know. We got. Dominion the suggested another path changing the designated uses of the rivers, so they're no longer expressly for salmon. EPA declined. Clarify that statement according to courthouse news, despite repeated repeated requests to do so. Because they didn't. have any idea how they could. No, that's my surprise. The Agency refused to answer any questions about its report like. Possible uses for it. Here's one. We Got Dominion. WHO's GONNA. Stop US us. Or not. Nowadays Gentlemen! Would you join me in savoring the apology of the week? is so sorry. So much. To dig this week. It would almost suggests that. There's still a racial problem in the United, States Lil Nas X.. Him of Old Town road fame quickly apologized for tweety sent out about a civil war in the wake of ongoing protests across America. What y'all wearing to the civil war, he wrote. Quite a few people who didn't think is joke was funny. And, they let the young artists know just how much they disapprove tweet intern, Little Ness X.. took a more serious tone. At my work. I am sorry for not using my platform to speak up more on the situation. I honestly feel as though I don't think he means guy from Jersey shore, either I honestly feel as though it has become so normalized that even I myself. I'm numb to police brutality toward black people. I hope this time around. Something changes. Phoenix police chief Phoenix. Arizona apologized this week for guidelines set up by the department earlier. In the week, saying the working journalists would be subject to arrest if they fail to leave. A senior officers had asked the crowd to disperse why that would mean that the. Techniques and tactics. The officers used. Could not be. Scrutinized. By, the public public officials wouldn't. It wouldn't mean that anyway, quote. I want to apologize for statement. Our Public Affairs Bureau issued earlier about unlawful assembly, said they statement from police chief Jerry Williams J. E. are. The Phoenix Police Department fully supports the free press and journalists right to report the news. Earlier. Same Day, the department said if you participate in a protest attorney early unruly, sorry and everyone is ordered to leave, and if you don't peacefully disbursed, you will be. Arrested it was extended. A journalist in a memo sent out by the Department Public Affairs Bureau. I think they should busy themselves with sending out video news releases instead. Show? Make more apologized this week for a series of controversial tweets and connection to the murder of George, Floyd and other recent instances of police. Misconduct. He. wrote on the. On his social media platform wherever there is essence didn't tell me what it is that quote? Black people were capable of saving or protecting themselves from race violence. Now, that wasn't a quote. Thousand Summation, but here he is quoted look. All I'm saying is in the moment when we are experiencing race. Racism can we the black community find ways to avoid being killed or hunted? Strong opinion that the black community hates to hear, but needs to hear. We need to learn how to deal with police and or racism. Because this is the part of the scenario we have failed to fix. Unquote. Make more hours later. After the backlash started, he claimed his tweets were taken out of context. On his instagram live session. He said I did not mean to offend any of the black community. My heart is in a place of growth. I want us to grow. He said the problem was how I said it, and when I said it was wrong timing. I screwed up in that way, and it didn't say screw. The Spiderman into these spiders star. Case you were wondering. I. Did keep you wondering all this time said he felt a fully think through the implications of his statements. And that these teams would be explored in his future film work. Can't wait. Hope Spidey it. Dateline Louisville Kentucky a police officer seen on camera firing would appear to be pepper balls. At a news. Arnie, other parts of the pepper edible. At a news crew during a live television broadcast of the Second Night of Louisville protests, prompting an apology from the Louisville Metro police. The crew was covering demonstrations over the death of Brianna Taylor, a black woman killed by police in her own home in, March. Officers in riot gear stood shoulder to shoulder moving people down a key street. And then. A reporter Caitlyn rust third, yelling off camera. I've been shot. I've been shot. Video shows a police officer aimed. Directly at the camera crew. I want to apologize with Louis Louisville Police spokeswoman Jesse holiday told the local paper. It's not something should have occurred if she was singled out as a reporter. Holiday said she couldn't tell who the author was at the. But police would review. Review the video again. That would be a review, and if we need to do in any investigation for discipline, we will do that. At Louisville police discipline notorious. The video shows rest on the camera crew moving away as the indignant studio anchors ask if they're okay. Well I'm sure if they just said move done, so an anchor said. Villa's protests release of nine one one call Taylor's boyfriend made moments after. The twenty six year old emergency medical technician was shot eight times by narcotics detectives who knocked down her front door. No drugs were found in her home. There's an. They like Toms River New Jersey. The death of a black man at the hands of police. Minnesota's prompted an apology from a restaurant in New Jersey. Ribs Tom's river hub issued the Mac Alpa on its facebook page. For a provocative sign posted six years ago in response to the. Homicide of Eric Garner, the original I can't breathe victim. I can breathe I obey the law. The electronics signed blared outside. The restaurant. which had a different name in those days? They'll times come back to haunt them. As the nation's attention is on the floyd killing. A New Jersey comedian. Resurface to picture of the old sign. We're all trying to do our best to help small businesses, but during this time or during this time, but let's make sure we're helping the ones that deserve it. He says besides their family serving crap food to the public since they first opened being anti vaccine sharing plan DEMOC propaganda. Since we've been quarantined the release I went. Public has garbage human beings by explaining of the death of Eric Garner. And are not with your time and money during this pandemic by this comedian John Provan. Romo! Ribs Tom's river hub responded by saying that what was done to George Floyd is a disgrace. There's no way we support. The Post that is circulating right now is over six years, and if I could go back in time, I wouldn't post that on my side. Again. We apologize. So. Much growth can happen over six years. A CNN crew was arrested by Minnesota. State police Friday morning. Well The report was giving a live television report in Minneapolis where the crew was covering the ongoing protests, the rest ruin apology from the state's governor Tim Walz told CNN. President Jeff Zucker. That he deeply apologizes for what happened. Toronto Mayor John Torrey. As apologized for not properly physical distancing at Trinity, Bell Woods Park over the weekend. After Tory was photographed interacting with crowds at the Popular Toronto Park. The Internet was quick, criticized the mayor for not practicing what he preaches. Kinda like Dominic Cummings in Britain except he didn't apologize. I want to apologize for my personal behavior. Yesterday. I visited the park to try to determine why things were the way they were. said the mayor. Always a good plant I fully intended the properly physically distant, but it was very difficult to do. I wore a mask into the park, but failed to use it properly. Another thing I'm disappointed about. How did he use the mask? When might ask the mayor continued by apologizing and saying that it is the leader of Toronto, he must set a better example going forward. Multiple? Images, circulated across social media of hoards of people flocking Canadian flocking to the park while visitors disregarded the rules. Put in place to keep them safe. Americans do that. Austria's President Alexander van der. Bellen this another coronavirus apology. He's apologized after staying at a restaurant beyond the corona virus related closing time of eleven pm. He remained at the restaurant in Vienna after midnight. He said he'd lost track of time. He's seventy six well. While, speaking with friends at the Italian restaurant in the center of the city. Austria was one of the first countries in Europe to follow Italy and imposing a strict lockdown and serve column at the same time. It was one of the first to begin easing restrictions. I'm sincerely sorry. So the Austrian president, it was a mistake. I went for the first time since the lockdown with two friends and my wife, we then lost track of the time while chatting. He was spotted by police on the outside dining area of the restaurant. Shortly after midnight, the restaurant could be fined for breach, but the president said he would take responsibility if the owner suffers any losses as a result of the incident. He said he'd thought customers were allowed to stand the terrace beyond eleven. If. They wished you know if they were still. Too tipsy leave. Dateline Collier Ville Tennessee Popular Cholula restaurant took to social media to apologize to their community and to people at the center of a controversial incident. Thursday to employs were responsible for writing quote. Black people unquote at the top of a receipt. Derek Gray said he used to work in the restaurant industry, so he knows how things should work. You don't categorize by age. Race or sex categorized boat categorize way with the have on or what table they sitting at, he said. When he was given his receipt after ordering food at Buddha's. In town. Your bill is draw dropped the words. Black people were printed at the top. I tried my best to be a nice. I can't about it and it seemed like the response was like okay. That's fine sorry about that. They weren't satisfied with the apology, so they made a post on facebook. Later in the afternoon, the owners apologized him over the phone. Y- grey accepted the apology. It's sad that I'm used to it because it happens all the time. I guess when you eat it Bouma's F-. Has Nothing to do with it dayline. Salem, Oregon answering questions from reporters since the first time since the beginning of the pandemic, the director of the state's beleaguered employment, department issued an apology to Oregonians still waiting for benefits, and you can take that apology to the bank. Waiting for confirmation can be agonizing K Ericsson said and for the thousands of Oregonians are. Are Still Waiting I Apologize Ericsson said complexities were created by the cares act combined with the agency's out of date computer system they contributed to the lag claims being processed, Republican lawmakers call the states response to the record unemployment records numbers of failure that is left vulnerable or with financial support they need. Yes, Republicans want more unemployment insurance paid, but it's Oregon. The one of the representatives in the State House pointed out the state's antiquated computer system was a known quantity and money allocated upgrading it went. Unspent for years. Again Republican complaining. About not spending. Money To spend goes crazy things. Doj Cap. A rapper singer, whose given name as I'm rely. Rutten azan deal the Amini. Zandi lake the in any. Is being outed after the HASHTAG DOJ cats over party started showing up on twitter over the weekend. That's the way of calling for somebody to be cancelled. Doj Cat is over. Under fire I say she was accused of participating in a racist video chant. And road recall a wrote a song in two thousand, fifteen called Din do nothing a racist slur of acting mocking victims of police brutality. Doj took to twitter is apology, but also denied to ever personally made racist remarks in a chatroom. I shouldn't have been on some of those chat room sites, but I personally have never been involved in any racist conversations I'm sorry to everyone I offended. Why did he do? The song didn't do nothing on a black woman. Half of my family's black from South Africa, and I'm very proud of where I come from and for the old song that's resurfaced. It was a no way tied anything outside of my own personal experience. It was written in response to people who often used that term to hurt me I made an attempt to flip its meaning, but recognize it was a bad choice to use that term in my music now comes this week's slavery assignment. Apology. Richland County School district one in Columbia South Carolina's apologizing for a fourth grade. Social Studies assignment meant to teach students about slavery. After they received complaints from parents. The e learning worksheet assigned all fourth graders. As students to quote write a journal entry responding to the following prompt choose to be a slave or a slave owner. Write a journal entry that describes your daily activities before the civil war unquote. The worksheet was created as part of the district's remote learning from by the coronavirus. Question was in a packet sent to schools in March. Spokeswoman Karen York said in a statement. Assignments spawned a wave of complaints from parents which the district addressed. The district publicly apologize for the assignment in very quickly pulling together learning activities for students to complete at home to sample lesson activity on slavery was inadvertently included in the fourth grade social studies learning packet, said the superintendent, when was brought to our attention back in March was addressed at that time, the activity was inappropriate and should not have been included. Students should not complete the activity, and their great will not be impacted by leaving activity blink. We regret that this occurred and apologized for any offense. They can bite any of our students. Said, one school board member I. Don't think you can brush that time period under the carpet, but there's a right way to teach it. But, many of those commenting on the image posted to facebook expressed outrage at the assignment would be approved for children other, said the assignment for students to confront the horrors of slavery. The state's education standards require fourth graders to learn about the slave trade how slavery led to the civil war and about reconstruction, according to the Department of Education website. Decision what materials to use is made by the district. Some! Non Racially related. No one more sorry. The Newark. The white woman who called police on a black man bird, watching in, central, Park. After the to argue about her unleashed dog. She has apologized. Christin Cooper. The african-american Berger. Took a screen grab of her. Encounter with him in the ramble. Area of Central Park. Fairly. Area. Amy Cooper told CNN. She wanted to publicly apologize to everyone. I'm not a racist. I did not mean to harm that man in any way. She didn't mean any harm to the African American community. She was walking your dog when Christian Cooper no relation to amy, Cooper was bird watching her dog was not on a leash contrary to the rambles rules. He recorded a video of part of their encounter. She? said she's GonNa. Call the cops because he was videoing her. I'm going to tell them. There's an African American man threatening my life. The Police Department responded neither Cooper was present. No arrests nor summonses were made. Quote Amy. Cooper I think I was just scared. When you're alone the ramble, you don't know what's happening. It's not excusable. It's not defensible. I videotaped it because I thought it was important to document things, said Christian Cooper. Unfortunately we live in an era with things like Maude. Armory where black men are seen as targets. This woman thought she could exploit that to her advantage. I wasn't having it. Unquote. The Male Cooper Electronics giant LG's Poland operation. Did you know as posted an apology and removed all its other content from tick tock after backlash over a sexist video, the brand shared on the platform. Video was initially made via viral prank greater. They didn't tell you about that. In High School counseling today there's a career viral prank creator. The video features taking photos up the skirt of a woman climbing stairs. When she confronts him, he shows her. He was only taking selfies revealing after she walks away that he actually was taking up skirt photos. The Account L. G. Poland no longer includes any videos. Accept the apology message. We apologize for any offense. Ill conceived video may have caused. We will strive to prevent such an occurrence from happening again in a futures. The Creator was. Soured data has four point. One million followers often creates prank videos centered on a man meant to look elderly. They're so funny the. Jimmy Fallon apologized on Tuesday after drawing criticism for a Saturday night, live sketch from two thousand, featuring him in black-faced when it resurfaced online this week. He was portraying comedian. Chris Rock while talking to Darrell Hammond who was playing Regis Philbin. NBC had removed the video from the Internet. But clips have been circulating online. I made a terrible decision to do an impersonation of Chris Rock while in black face. There is no excuse for this. Fallon wrote. I'm very sorry for making the unquestionably offensive decision and thank all of you for holding me accountable. Nash Tag Jimmy Fallon is over party began trending on twitter. And the irony is that. His boss on the show is on now. The tonight show. was his boss on the show where he had did the black face sketch, and that nutty and finally deadline Canby Oregon the the owner of bricks and mini. Figs in can be has apologized for a facebook video since deleted in which he tore up a copy of the governor's reopening guidelines and rented about her new requirements for face coverings in retail settings, says David Thornton owner operator of the store i. did go off the rails a little bit. It was a hard month. I'M NOT GONNA. Make excuses. Isn't it? Hard month as an excuse not, but I did do some inappropriate things, and I made some inappropriate comments as well. The store is an independently owned franchise of a nationwide collection of stores, selling new and used Lego sets, pieces and finger FIG figures although I wouldn't put it past them. Don't get me started on Lego. Ladies and gentlemen. The was originally going to open the store reopen in open defiance of the mask mandate, but after discussions later that day with the corporate office, which reminded him of the stipulations of his franchise agreement, requiring adherence to laws. Thornton reversed course green, follow the law while vowing to continue the fight to fight it for reasons of health, safety and personal freedom. I made a mistake I did I have a venue with my friends and my customers and I used inappropriately. Fair to my viewers wasn't fair to any of the children. It wasn't fair to the other bricks and benefit stores. It wasn't fair to anybody. Really. It wasn't fair to the governor. And the hard work she's been doing. I was the adult in the room. And I should have made. Better choices. To the other locally owned stores of the franchise chain in Portland Beaverton and Eugene if this cascaded toward you I, apologize. It was not my intention. Just to fight against mass way to German. Which? Like so much else. Needs its own saw. The. Cover. This A. Person that I don. You. Don't care if you. Now. Sir I. Where man. I'm. Just. Plain as K. omos. ooh Christian. Most carried. Jerry's. Else rounding I gotTA LOT ON A. An. Alert. Increase. Gone. News and miles. State part of God's plan. No Muslim woman. chewed. Christian Drew. Store! Burt. Jerry. Mass where're? Love the. Wind! Through was. Scared goes. Co wrote. In the bright sunshine of freedom. Now deal for ever. where? No Damn man ask. I Sing God got were. Slow. This. Burn. A. Christian. I'm very busy. There's no did Nah. I'm ready food. Stop when I'm falling and I'm so very. Funny you. Running around a cooling hamsters. Showrooms around me to me. So! Whole. Won't you hold my? Two. On. You understand! Onto. I'm very. New Did. and. I'm sorry. Falling Down So. I, need you. On goes. Milton pod when. Got Me. On. Own. Shoot. Scenic. Won't you hold? Do! To. A. Don't you understand? This, show and now few notes on. WHAT A SMART WORLD! We live in one of the features of the smart world. Is that software that you used to? Buy. You know like you paid for it you. Bought it. It lived on your computer or as an APP on your mobile device. And you could use it as if it were yours. Of course, it wasn't yours. That's the wonderful new world of tech where what you buy. You don't really own, but especially when. A. Tech Company decides Oh. No, no, no, no! You're software no longer lives on your device. It lives on ours. We call it the cloud. How can a cloud come down? How can a cloud crash because they're not really cloud adobe technician scrambled this week to restore multiple cloud services after severe outage left customers stranded. Without a cloud. A ADOBE! Status. Board began lighting up with red outage notifications. First thing Wednesday morning, thirteen major issues were ongoing. Five had been resolved issues. Meaning people couldn't use some of. Their Software in the cloud, nor access their documents. They're not your documents. Great of cloud reported h eight major issues in progress cl- experience cloud had to. Welcome to experience cloud. There is no experience here now and adobe services had four. Adobe didn't respond to a request for more information about the problems according to the register the British Journal. The, Status Board said, not all customers were necessarily affected by the breakdown. The photoshop giant support account said an inquiry into the outage is underway. Customers who recall when adobe software ran locally limited their dependence on the cloud. Adobe servers are currently down, wrote one twitter user who does animation for a living. If you pay for any of their software, you can't use it right now. Remember when we used to own our own software question mark. Yeah, but not really. This. This was all set in motion by some really tiny type about two decades ago. It's a license. You bought a license and so isn't that smart. And Now! He's not and inspector. into. The. Chief watchdog for the Department of Health and Human Services is being replaced. As part of president trump's. Purge, Of inspectors general. She told lawmakers this week in Congress that sometimes they make laws that freedom from political intrusion is quote a key safeguard for the programs. We oversee unquote Christie Grim. Health and Human Services Principal Deputy. Inspector General spoke out for the first time since she was excoriated by the President for report from her office had found severe shortages early. This spring of supplies to help hospitals cope with the Koran virus thing. Grim defended that inquiry, and it's findings telling members of the House Committee, on oversight and reform that was warranted though she said the department has since addressed some of the problems. The report identified personally and professionally. I cannot let the idea of providing unpopular information drive decision making an ORC. We do. She said speaking calmly as a sole witness at a briefing could by video conference. She called an independence, the cornerstone of what any office of Inspector General does. She said government watchdogs must go right down the middle and providing facts and letting facts. Take US where they may. Unquote that sounds suspiciously like science. A CAREER EMPLOYEES WITH HHS inspector general's office more than two decades. Grimm said she and her colleagues are pursuing fourteen additional reviews. Of the department's response to the pandemic. Inquiries or exploring the operation of the strategic national stockpile of emergency supplies the development and distribution of tests by the CDC that. Didn't go so well and the process by which the FDA approved test developed by outside laboratories. They're also delving into safety issues in nursing homes which convert disproportionate share of cases and deaths. But you know you don't really need an independent person to do that, you can get. Anybody off the street and I think they have. Now Ladies and gentlemen, some news or the warm the ice shelves surrounding the ant. Arctic coastline retreated at speeds of up to one hundred sixty five feet per day, not recently at the end of the last ice age, far more rapid movement than they satellite derived retreat rates observed today. That's according to new research out of Cambridge University. Cambridge I spoke. The study led by the Scott Polar Research Institute their use patterns of delicate wave like ridges on the Antarctic Sea floor to calculate how quickly the ice retreated about twelve thousand years ago during regional deglaciation. Sound so nice when you put it that way. The riches were produced where the ice sheet began to float, and were caused by the ice, squeezing the sediment on the sea floor, moved up and down with movement of the tides. The images of these landforms are at unprecedented resolution, fine, fine resolution, and we're required from an autonomous underwater vehicle. I think we'll be seeing those before we see self driving cars, but you never know. By examining the fast put footprint of the ice sheet. The past footprint of the ice sheet and looking at sets of ridges on the floor we were able to obtain new evidence on maximum past ice retreat rates, which are very much faster than those observed in even the most sensitive parts of Antarctica today, said one of the leaders of the study. Except he spoken in English, accent, ongoing environmental changes of transforming forests worldwide, resulting in shorter and younger trees. That's going to have broad impacts on global ecosystems. And Global Study published in Science magazine researchers, including experts at the University of Berlin. Not Birmingham it's over in England. It's Birmingham showed how rising temperatures and carbon dioxide have been altering the world's forests. The. Alterations caused by increased stress I knew the feeling bay and carbon dioxide, dioxide, fertilization through increasing the frequency and severity of disturbances. Such as wildfire, your wildfire, your drought, your wind, damage and other natural. Enemies of trees I. Don't know three. See them enemies. The trees have friends combined with forest harvest. The Earth has witnessed a dramatic decrease in the age and stature. Of! Forests! And, if humans. The study was led by the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. and. Analysis carried out by the Birmingham Institute of Forest Research. A researcher at the by force had the study reviews mounting evidence. Climate change is accelerating tree mortality increasingly pushing the world's forests towards being both younger and shorter. This is likely to have big implications, said Dr Tom Pugh for the services. Those forests provide such as mitigating climate change who needs that increasing rates of tree mortality driven by climate and land use change combined with the uncertainty in the mix of species that will form the next generation. Financial now we're supposed to care about the next generation. News of the warm copyrighted feature this broadcast. So the. Pattern. This year. Stay home. Come back out. No! You'd better stay home. Gentleman that's going to conclude this week's edition of the show back next week same time on the radio. Whenever you want on your audio device choice. And would be just like we don't have to relive nineteen sixty eight all over again. Would you already. Thank you very much typical Shosha. To. The San Diego Desk Pam Hall stead. For, Thomas Walsh. A WW no New Orleans for help today's program the e-mail address for me. Spelled more. The players to the music. 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AP Headline News Jan 23 2019 15:00 (EST)

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AP Headline News Jan 23 2019 15:00 (EST)

"Radio news. I may Donohue. President Trump sent a letter to house speaker Nancy Pelosi saying he plans to deliver his state of the union address on Tuesday. As scheduled speaker Pelosi told the president the house won't authorize a state of the union address in the chamber until the government has reopened. She had asked for the delay. Citing security concerns related to the partial government shutdown. White House counselor Kellyanne Conway is skeptical of that explanation speaker should wasted. Everybody's time in light about security concerns. Have you called her a liar at the White House? President Trump was asked about Nancy Pelosi's response. It's really a shame. What's happening with the Democrats had become radicalized? In a want to see crime stop, which we can very easily do in the southern border getting back to the partial shutdown. If now in its thirty third day, there are two votes scheduled in the Senate tomorrow on border security, and the partial shutdown Nancy Pelosi says Democrats need to stand firm against a border wall is serious and justified concern that this president which is down the government anytime. He does not get his way legislatively that is why we must hold the line on this shutdown and government, President Trump's personal former personal attorney is postponing his public testimony to congress Michael Cohen won't appear as scheduled before the house oversight and reform committee next month Cohen advisor Lanny Davis says the delay is on the advice of Cohen's, lawyers because Cohen is still cooperating in special counsel Robert Muller's investigation. A male licensed practical nurse has been arrested on a charge of sexually assaulting an incapacitated woman who gave birth last month at a long term health care facility in Phoenix. Nathan Sutherland is. Custody. The scientists in the Phoenix police crime crime laboratory determined the sample obtained from Sutherland matched the baby. The woman is twenty nine she'd been incapacitated since she was three years old. This is AP radio news. Alan Alda will be honored by the Screen Actors Guild with a lifetime achievement award Ellen Alta is eighty two and dealing with Parkinson's disease. But he says he can't imagine retiring he says he copes with the Parkinson's, and he'll keep working as long as it's fun, although is known for playing Hawkeye Pierce on mash as well as films like same time next year. But he says when he dies he hopes that's not his greatest achievements that I do on helping people communicate better. Is the only work I've ever done where I hoped it would not only still be there after going, but grow I'm Archie zaraleta? Amazon is bringing delivery robots to the streets of Seattle suburb. It's starting to test self-driving robots in Sonoma County, Washington that can bring Amazon packages to shoppers doorsteps, the robots are light blue about the size of a labrador have six wheels and the Amazon smile logo stamped on the side. I'm Ed Donahue, AP radio news. This is fire fighter Raphael Pori yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new spicy Cajun chicken soup Cajun seasons, grilled chicken, breast zesty cherry peppers and housemaid Cajun mayo just five fifty five for immediate. Remember a portion of every sub you buy cups provide lifesaving equipment for personal sponsors, vile subs. Enjoy more subs saved. More lives. Limited time only plus tax participating locations. Only the minimum one million dollars in two thousand nineteen to the firehouse subs public foundation by donating point one one percent of every purchase.

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Lori Vallow Case: Melanie Gibbs Interview: Part 3

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Lori Vallow Case: Melanie Gibbs Interview: Part 3

"This podcast includes graphic depictions of true crime cases and may contain explicit language listener discretion is advised. Hey this is robin. This is Jackie, and this is Amanda and you're listening to Weei saw the double a podcast dedicated to horror, true crime and all things macab. If. You want to follow US between shows. Don't forget to check us out online. You can go to our website at www dot. We saw the double dot com. You can follow us on Instagram at we saw the devil podcast, or on twitter at me, solve the devil, and if you want to follow specific co hosts social media, you can find the links to those on our website as well. Hello everyone and welcome to part three of our Melanie kgab Natan East Idaho News enter you. It's a Doozie. This all three parts were like roller coaster. The entire time it really was and part three I. Think was especially heinous part just angry I. think most of the time listening watching. 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Also very interesting information last night that came from Justin Lomb and actually let my mind was blown to be perfectly honest like this was the most excited I've been since I can't even remember. Yeah, it was a motion to quash deposition subpoena so just to make sure that I understood what had been posted? I posted it in the Laurie Vullo subrata and an attorney actually replied, and so more or less, the Gilbert city attorney has asked the judge to tell Melanie that she cannot take a deposition of the detective and Brandon's shooting case because there's an ongoing investigation. This is a very very very common document. the motion to quash. The and the judge will likely granted as well so criminal investigations, especially serious ones take precedence over civil cases like family custody divorce cases, so because the types of Pilar is involved in the investigation into Brandon in the shooting there right? Melanie can't take the deposition from him. So criminal trump's custody and more domestic type of cases, and it's really interesting, because there are some additional details in here that make you raise an eyebrow. Do you WanNa, talk a little bit more about that. The interesting part I found was. On the second page, it says as of this writing. The combined investigations span over a two year timeframe and comprise eight law enforcement agencies in four states. The investigation includes one homicide to attempted homicides. Three suspicious deaths and two missing slash endangered June aisles. So I thought that was interesting that they are going back to. Two years ago. And what exactly are they looking at two years ago? Because this has taken all the way back like less than two years ago, is I mean Charles's death, and all of that so this is predating any of the crimes that we're aware of and discussing and the case right? Someone mentioned If you, if you guys look at Justin, lum's live video from last night and again, today's the twenty nine. but he had a live video from his car. And he actually addresses he's in his car. And it's because of the the virus, and that's kind of where he has to work in something or on some things and he was waiting to do another newscast I believe, but he said someone asked. Is it about Joseph Ryan? Who died in two thousand eighteen? Maybe him and he mentions Phoenix police told him or his team possibly that Joseph Ryan's cases closed. There's nothing going on there and people are just inquiring about it, but there is another article Robin that you found at the beginning of May that says otherwise. It's an article from oxygen. Now. Oxygen has become a true crime powerhouse. Right like everything they do now is vastly true crime, but there is an article from May seventh that states that law enforcement is in fact investigating Joseph Ryan's death taking it to this document as Amanda already mentioned that there are eight police jurisdictions. Police Department we're just GONNA name like number of them off quiet police department Rexburg Police Department Chandler Police Department Gilbert. Police Department FBI that's five most likely the additional three I would say are Utah Wyoming and again, if if they have Rian reopened Joseph Ryan's death. That would be Texas and that would bring the number eight. Yeah, I mean it's a possibility. Yeah? Justin Lum seems to not think so, but maybe there's things happening behind the scenes that they're not talking about. Now let's talk about the the lists of one homicide to attempted homicides, three suspicious deaths, and obviously we know the missing. Kids are Jane highly so the one homicide I'm guessing. Is Charles Fallow. The two attempted homicide I'm thinking brandon in. Maybe they're talking about Tammy. You know she. It was just a paintball gun, but I truly don't think it was just a paintball gun. Remember, she died. What like ten days after that? And then the three suspicious deaths, so tammy Dave Bill. Alex Cox in an are they saying Charles as a suspicious to be honest with you, because they brought it out to the to your time for him, and because of the number of states involved I am I am going to go ahead and make my prediction. That Joseph Ryan's death is being investigated by the FBI. I have again speculation. There's no evidence to this other than an oxygen document from a couple of weeks ago. I'm thinking personally. The homicide is Charles. I think the two attempted homicides are brandon and Tammy. I think the three suspicious deaths, Tammy, Alex and possibly Jerusalem. Poss-. I mean that would make more sense because I feel like. Charles would be under the one homicide. I wouldn't put his call his as suspicious. I mean it's up in the air. Weather truly was self events or not but I. don't know if that falls into the realm of could alex be ruled suspicious if it was ruled that he died naturally, even though his death is still being investigated. I don't know I wish they would have written down. What given the names guys? And then one interesting thing just going off of to just live feed in his car feed he talked about the Hawaii, doesn't provide marriage certificates as public record, and that that's part of why we haven't seen a marriage certificate for Laurie Chad. And the only immediate family member can request that rendered and obviously no one's been able to do that yet so I wonder if they're actually married I. Don't know and that's why he's had to. He's still calls her Valo because he hasn't seen proof of you know. A Name Change? And then also they were talking about how not in this scenario, but late before Alex remember how he wanted to go off of Lebas. Laugh, right. And? It's just weird to me. All these people just quickly changed their name. When like changing. Your name is kind of hard. You have to go to multiple places and do multiple things to change your name. It's not just you marry someone in. It's different, so just wanted to put that out there, too. It's not fun. No, it is not. Alright, so let's get into these interviews interviews then all righty so part three. So I have a lot of thoughts on part three but Amanda. Do you want to give your first impression? While I was kind of angry after part two and so I kind of. Went into it already a little frustrated in probably not fair. on this one I listened to it I in the car, and then came home and listen to it again, so I've listened to this one twice. And, Just. The way she ends. It made me so very angry I again as I stated earlier, I wanted to slam on my headphones. In the yeah, this is the part. Yeah I I was very upset. In the car I actually had to go back a little bit like no, she didn't just say that. I was. The equivalent of like an angry old woman, shaking her fist at the sky except the sky is melanie understandable. So this when. She just gives us more information on things that have happened, and then this one was just how like sympathetic. She has towards them. So avalon thoughts on this line so I will briefly go over mine so in part three. There are some bombshells. Even, though a lot of people are saying that she just confirmed what we already knew. There are some pieces here that we were not privy to before. As as I stated before one of my guilty pleasures, right is the show escaping polygamy and watch a lot of documentaries on on it, as and Melanie and miss and par-three, reminded of someone who left, say like the F. D. LDS Warren Jeffs or the Kingston clan. That? She was in the wrong that it's not true, but she still really confused. And then she has just irie amount of love and concern for Chad Laurean everyone involved. Yes, a yeah very i. feel like it's. Not Appropriate in the sense. Right like it's not appropriate if you truly think. She ended the last one with the death of her family. I just I don't think I could be that person. Maybe I'm just. She's a bigger person than I but I cannot say that I could have this much love and affection towards someone that I believe kill right no exactly but again you know people who have been and groups like the colts religious cults, whatever she has a tend to clean the same behavior as the woman who loved those particular socks like to Itea. I think that she was really easily groomed. By Chad I feel like. One of those people and I think we've all met one at one point in our lives. That's just constantly wanting to know. Just they need something. They need something to hold onto. They need some sort of guidance. Your spiritual guidance and I feel like Melanie is one of those people I don't know if she had a rough childhood or about early life like I don't know, but I feel like she's just one of those people that just needs someone telling her that everything's GonNa be okay and that there's a spiritual plan for her life, so I think that. That was that allowed her to be easily groomed by to that being said, though as you stated you know, we've both stated that this made us so angry. I don't give a flying flip. That Loria sad that she can't be with Chad or that. She can't be pretty anymore like I. Don't give a damn. No, not at all, and I feel like Melanie didn't and we'll get into that as well actually here. I will momentarily. So Laurie children were probably murdered and I don't feel like Melanie, showed the appropriate amount of empathy for that. Or upset. You know discussing because all of these people were members of the of the LDS Church and you know we've discussed the LDS Church Multiple Times on the show as far as the difference of beliefs right and how chat and Laurie are kind of out there, and took a lot of core concepts, and just ran with it right, but there is a piece in the in the Mormon Faith Mormon the LDS. Faith in the Mormon Church I've been speaking a lot with with Mormons and. I've been speaking a lot with members of the community, and they've actually taught me. and Ian came on the show, and then others as well and the Mormon Church does. except. Right the Mormon Church has a lot of visionaries. You have the prophet, the first and second counselors, the quorum of the seventy, the twelve apostles, so the Mormon faith has a lot of visionaries as a whole so Melanie Gab as a whole was already primed into accepting that someone had the gift of vision. Multiple people that I've spoken to said Yeah. You know the bishops in our word they have visions, and so forth and have revelations. People do some people don't I also feel that in the Mormon faith women, the church are used to deferring their spirituality to men, and allowing them to kind of. So do feel after speaking with multiple people being in multiple forums of. Next Moments I. Do feel that some of this primes Melanie. In particular to kind of blindly. We led by chat I also feel too. If you think about it from a spiritual point right and this doesn't matter what religion you're part of. When you die right? What's the first person that was the first thing that someone usually says? Oh, they're in a better place now. So you know to someone who who's fanatical in their faith like Melanie. Was You know? Why would she be sad? If the kids are actually according to her in a better place you know, whereas a lot of us are looking from the outside end being like why the Hell isn't she showing empathy? Why isn't she sad? Why doesn't she seem concern? That's likely because she truly does believe that the kids are actually in a better place now like Ma sucked how they got there, but you know according to some of the. Melons likely being like well. The kids are happy and wonderful now and she actually kind of refers to this in this episode at the end. When you know all needs to do is pat. He'll be with her kids again. All will be great, so I duNno, it's It is an absolute crazy mess, but I don't want anyone to think that I'm talking mormonism or the LDS church or anything like. I'm really truly not and again. Melanie Gab and chat and Laurie. We're all. That you know took core beliefs and ran with it I'm just going off in reading things that some Mormon friends and others are bringing up as possibilities or things that help create the situation that Melanie found herself and dealing with Laurean Chad, and how it escalated so quickly so again. I love all of you, I'm not you know trying to bully or or speak ill of the church? Not My intention at all I'm just pointing out different possibilities here. Right, but then she also says like that. She's concerned for the people that have died and she almost like feels bad about it, too. Yeah at least in the second as far as being murdered kind of socks, but So I don't I don't know what side of the fence I'm on now like as far as the Pro Melanie or Against Melanie I keep like standing on it I don't really know how I feel about her after these. Okay so part one I was like all Melania sweet. She's trying by part three. I'm like hell. No, she's lying. She's not being forthright and I believe that she was far more involved than she says that she was for. Oh No, no I. I agree with that I just like I. Don't know if I really care for her. I don't an are as not anymore how? How yeah the first one I'm like? Brave and like great and I. I do still think that she's pretty brave and like I. Commend Her for getting out of this or at least pretending to get out of this I. Don't know that that's why I'm like on the fences. I don't know if she really still believes all she does, and she's just trying to save. Oh, absolutely thinks she does believe all of this because. We're not want to sit on rumors and whatnot or propagate rumours, but her boyfriend. His name is David Warwick. He also has a podcast and he is also obsessed with visions. In Times, earthquake's coming X Y and Z he's a proper chat I. Don't know I do not know I haven't gone down that rabbit hole I did a little bit of research on him as far as his beliefs and Melania now newest boyfriend is into the same shed, so melanie apparently has not learned her lesson. That's. That's really sad. My big surprise I. Mean we kind of touched on par tube? And my final thought on this is that my biggest surprise is hearing about the power dynamic between Laurie and Chad and Melanie basically making it out to seem like it was all Chad right. Like. She's trying to save her. Name Sam same same. That's why I'm like no. They're equally in this I mean as far as at least the stories that we've heard from it. there. In my in my sense, I mean he could have been the one that may be brainwashed her to start with everything came from Chas. Everything supposedly am from Chad and Chadwick Tell Laurie Laurie would go disseminate it amongst the rest of the group, so I still just can't believe a mother, though you know like a mother letting that happen to her kid under any circumstance oh I can. So it's horrible. Let's get into the interview. So nate starts out, and he asks Melanie the very first question is. How did you find out that Tammy died? And she said that a friend texted her that Tammy had passed away and Melanie, said I found this was telling she quote didn't know how they did it, but knew it was part of their plan. Yeah the plan that she was supposed to pass away. How convenient right? There's no plan that you're supposed. You're never supposed to pass away at a time. You know like obviously it's GonNa. Happen at some point, but like you can't predict that are say this person will die in a car crash on this day. No, you don't know that it's true. Mate, then ask Melanie if she was surprised that they went to, Hawaii chat always said that tammy would be fine with it because Tammy knew that she had fulfil her mission by dying and moving to the other side. Right and I took that as she had a mission on the other side like she wouldn't be happy about dying now, but once she got there like she had some sort of mission to get. Good. And I, don't I? Don't think that she really appreciated dying that early, but. No she had kids and grandkids, and so melanie then says that she had to call Chad's phone because none of lorries phones were working, so this is after Laurie had moved to Rexburg so I guess she no longer needed those burner phones all right and cheer marked. How Chad still sounded nervous and Laurie was just fine. Everything's great. Everything's normal another piece of interesting information here so at this point, right? Lori was still using tiniest phone remember. That came out that Lori was using his phone. and. She was pretending to beat highly for some time after that last confirmed sighting in the beginning of September so right like her birthday to some exactly into colby the whole bed, so it's believed that Lori sent a message to his friends who are trying to contact her as well as Texan Colby, so it might not be completely clear based on the phone data when. When highly went missing if Lori continue to use her phone is so it's very clear right that Lori was actually using tyler during this time. That's interesting and that wasn't in the interview that that's my additional. Yeah, that's just my additional Fox here like don't forget. Laurie, how had all of these burner phones and that also at the same time she was using tiles. Yet remember Tyler couldn't take her phone is what she told her family. Also I thought that she had taken tiles phone away or didn't say she confiscated either I want to say it was the summer. Janice had said that she opened skated it because she didn't want it to be tracked yet. She was texting. People in your own or possibly even calling doesn't make sense does A. No it doesn't for some reason, so. Melanie apparently s Lori why she hasn't told her where the kids are yet, so they had a phone call and Lori said for your safety. We can't tell you and neither Chad. Laurie Melanie where the kids were. Laurie did finally admit though that she in fact lied about. The children and Melanie claims that she called. Chattan Laurie Evil and that. Nate asked her. How did they respond to that and she was like they didn't like it. Oh. No, they don't like being evil and she does say that this was the last time she spoke with them the true so like it right here that she finally was like I don't want to be part of this. She said that she did lie about the kids. which everything had already had was pretty clear way before that she'd lied about the codes right, and is she being truthful? Here is was my question to was truly the last time they talked or do you think that they continue to I? Don't know but law enforcement probably does maybe and then I mean I know she talked or make calls to the jail without people knowing I would also like to state for the record. The that Chad was deep into vow like he was on the side of the like with Christopher. He was deep in there where you can communicate Melanie as well as Melania's new boyfriend, but specifically melanie was also in avow, also in those big forums I wonder. I mean again no. I'm just throwing it out there. As a possibility, I wonder if people started communicating via avow or back channels, so they would have their stuff was very weird. I will say when I was in. Rexburg is when? I found some posts. And some people share with me certain things that were in avow. And the piano post for very strange. Yeah I just I. Just wonder if there's something more to them communicating. So Melanie says that that's when she decided to go talk to the police, not before as Ambi- is nothing else just. That's when she just randomly decided. And here's the interesting part two, so melanie found out that Alex died when her bishop called her, and asked why the cop cars around his house he apparently called Melanie back after checking in on it and then told her that Alex died. So this is strange to me is not common for a bishop. To call a random person. That's not part of that family technically. To. Ask I guess. Maybe he knew her and Laurie. We're good friends and Laurie. It's connected to Alex and just. Chalked it up to that but I just thought that that just seemed very strange to me. Because it seems like it's gossipy. Yeah, it does it doesn't seem like. It just seems gossipy. I don't know I. IT struck me the wrong way regardless right, right? That's what I mean. It just seemed very strange I. Don't know I mean, and and it could just be He. He knew that they were connected in offense, and maybe she knew Moore, but it also comes up gossipy, so nate brings up and says this was the day after Tammy's body was. And Melanie says she I wondered if he had killed himself, because Alex did in fact, know that Melanie was planning to go to the police, and she flat out openly wonders if he committed suicide out of guilt ray, and then do you think that he reached out to Lori and said hey? Melanie is going to the cops, and maybe that's why they stopped speaking. That's probable I feel like and then she states it to as far as Alex's relationship with. You later on in this particular part part three. She stays the Alex had that protective big brother mentality over Laurie so I'm I wouldn't put it past to be honest if Alex and call Laurie and was like hey, right going to police. She's GonNa say everything in that gave them more time to prepare for, but secondarily melanie also poses and wonders if someone could have killed him. So Melanie is apparently on the fence of that as well. Nathan brings up because Melanie's multiple multiple times during all of these segments Melania I don't watch the news. I. Don't watch TV I. DON'T WATCH The New York and. So in January, did you see the video of me trying to talk to them outside the resort? Hawaii and Melanie's like I did see that and it was really really hard to see and she says that. When she saw it, she thought well. That doesn't look too good for Laurie. Right and yeah, just the way that she said you know. It made her look guilty. And if you really believe your children are being harmed, or they're going to be kidnapped, you would be happy to tell everyone be. You would tell police about it and that would show like. Like I care about saying where they are right like my interpretation of this was I care about my kids. I'm not telling you where they are, but but they're safe, and we're just keeping them away from the bad people, and that would have been about probably would have gone a whole different way, and it would have been welcomed in a sense, but we all know according to story, though that Lori doesn't trust the exactly, and I have to say that Melanie tied that segment up by saying use logic, and I almost lost myself out of the chair considering. Like everything that she's heard done sad that involved with, and then she's like. Just use logic. Okay, my Gosh, yeah, and the NEAT finally says. He Asks Melanie. Where do you think the kids are? In this hurt the hurt my soul like hearing her say. She said they're not on this planet anymore. I don't think they are. That's my personal opinion. Tyler is a strong willed individual, and she's capable of making a phone call. If she needs to call, I can't imagine she would be quiet. The whole time I can't imagine it JJ is a handful and he wouldn't have his medication with them. How does she take care of them? It doesn't add up. Right. And then she also mentioned. How was Laurien Hawaii having a great honeymoon wall? Her kids were in hiding for safety. That that doesn't make any snow. Because if you were worried about your kids, you wouldn't be vacationing and you would make sure you weren't very far from them. I would think. So that just that sad, because the way she said it. They're not on this plane anymore. And then she followed up with I. Don't think are that's my personal opinion. I'm like you know. And Multiple Times she's she's lump them in to Charles's boat. Right of no longer with us. No longer with us. The people who have died I feel like Melanie. Knows more than she lets on but Nathan asks her if she thinks Alex is responsible for it and Melanie says that she she literally says the words, it's possible. And she goes on to express how devout Alex was! HOW RELIGIOUS! Alex was and said that he that she believes it's possible especially if he truly believes the things that he learned from Chad and whatnot and thought that he was doing it all for God. Right and the nate mentions Melanie Plow Skis. Summer Janice all of them and how they believe Laurie has a plan. And she says I think they to believe. Lori and they want to be supportive of her. I'm not sure of the reasons. Sometimes you just know stuff, and it can be embarrassing to come forward you make it. You're in trouble, yourself and I'm like. What are you saying? Are you saying that all of them? Also no additional details that they're not being. Forthright with or what so they asked if Melanie thinks they know stuff and she. Pretty much said they may know some things, but she doesn't know who knows what or anything about it. She's not sure I. do think at least Melanie with an I. I think she knows that. I think Janice and summer. Know something's up, but they're trying to. Basically saved the. As my gas, I concur. I think summer is a little more creepy. Than Janice summer. I feel like. Is Laurie with Brown hair? You know the way that she speaks and certain senses I just a weird. Janice. I think that she just is trying to keep everyone together possibly I. Don't know how much she knows, but I do think summer knows a lot more and maybe Janice. Maybe Janssen's being a little tool of the stuff. That's my guess. So nate asked Melania talking about all of this pay for embarrassing or relieving and Melania Mealy says I don't know if it's relieving, you know it's hard to talk about people that associated with she does state that she was worried about what they were going to say about her in the media, and that's actually why she initially started to watch the news. I thought that that was really weird. The way she what are they going to say about me and I wonder? Is there something that they can say about her? That would be an. and. She do something regrettable, did she? or Or is it that she's embarrassed? We associated with these crazy people. I don't know but I'm wondering if there's something else that she did or a conversation that she was part of that led to a lot of this that she's leaving out and she's worried that it's going to I'm GonNa go ahead and say that that is probably I. Don't think it's just the she's embarrassed to talk about crazy beliefs because high. The last minute of this interview exists. Earlier, didn't she say something about and other people can get in trouble or something along those lines. I think she's referring to herself earlier where they when they were talking about how they believe Laurie has a plan. And she said you may get in trouble yourself. I think yeah. She knows that there's something in there where she could potentially be in trouble for something that she was. A very scary thing again. That's that's just speculation again. I do believe that Melania since she's been so forthright with the FBI and the police supposedly I do believe that they're probably going to grant her immunity because she likely wasn't responsible for directly the dusk children so I bet that's something that she probably has told law enforcement, but isn't telling the general population. That's just my own essence speculation. That I think, that's a safe guess, so Nathan asked if Lori and Chad betrayed her, and she says Oh yeah. And she says they also betrayed quote. Those who are no longer with us, and it's not a really good indication that those in her circle are safe. You do the math, right? That's like a Dun Dun Dun. Rite. Nate asks she could be considered a Zombie now, and she says yes. It's possible now, but she isn't scared. Interesting, what did they do their portal prayer? What about their portal prayer? If you going have drop dead, who knows? Oh Man I i. don't even know. Maybe I'd start believing in portal's if she liked. Drop dead during. Opening on my closet, cleaning out and putting my box. It's not a box bar. It's just something you sit beside and in my mind. It's a box Amanda. My Portal's don't make fun of the. So, Nathan asks her about Brandon. Boudreaux and she says that she met Brandon once and Alexey, Melanie, her to see brand, and so this Tyson to brandon getting shot at yes Alex and Melanie. That's Melanie with an I asked her to go see if brandon was home with children, and now don't forget Melanie and Brandon had divorced, and they were beginning nasty custody dispute Melanie Gab went there to Brandon's house and almost home, and she talked to a neighbor, and said they had moved out about two weeks before, and the neighbor said that he was glad that they move because someone tried to shoot it brandon. What was she doing? Then like what she like looking through windows and looking kind of weird looking for him, because I feel like a neighbor, just walking up and saying who are you looking for? Just seems weird especially if your neighbor just got shot like, wouldn't you not want to say anything? I would have watched my mouth quite, or was he outside and Melanie approached him like we don't know exactly how that went down. But regardless that's weird is how again melanie go like the should have set off some sort of what is going on in will. She repeated because she was worried about her. Children didn't shave so this shows that she cares about the welfare of children. Right? or She's trying to. Come off that way, but then she went back and told Alex about it. In Alex was like Oh. Yeah I. Did hear that I. Think someone shot at him to make it look like it was us. Bro You cannot be anymore obvious. Exactly, it's like don't look. Over there. You know like it's. So stupid. So. Melanie Gabe did in fact say it's possible that the shooter was Alex based on what she's her. What did she hear? What has she heard as she heard anything additional? I think she means like for how much he tried to protect the girls like Lori and. Melanie possibly because I mean we all know that he was all for Laurie Melanie though remember states that they didn't have the greatest relationship until we select. was He doing stuff for her to or It's just very very strange and I'm I can't wait till more of that stuff comes up to and I'm very glad that they missed. You know so there was someone else to be able to be present for all of this and no other kids go missing. It's all a huge loss. Well then, nate finally asked the question we've all been thinking of. So it's the world ending July twenty. Second Twenty twenty. And she says No. The world is not going to end. and. She talks about the belief system as that warrior believe there's going to be a huge earthquake in Utah by the end of two thousand nineteen, and that was partially why she did all of this because she thought people wouldn't recognize anything in her personal life that was going on. Like Chad in her getting married like the kids missing just all of that, so she felt confident. Thinking that no one would notice right, so that's why Melanie feels. Like she kinda got sloppy, and that's a day. She said that that's why she feels like they did it also sloppily and I'm like what? Why then you know if she thought this earthquake that came was going to just. Put something over all of her craziness, right? Why didn't she wait for the earthquake? Then good question. Why didn't she wait for all of that to happen before marrying the guy that the white just I and us? Why did she? Get rid of her kids so quickly and. In in weird fashions and pretend like she had no idea what was happening. WHO's your logic? Right. I honestly don't think she cared. If anyone noticed I, think she said Oh. This will just be like a bonus. This earthquakes GonNa comment. It'll just be way easier, but I don't care. Clearly, she didn't care. And also. She mentioned something about that. She didn't hear about the July date that she had always heard that. It was an August date and it came from a few different ideas and that Lori like did her own research sounded like. And I was a little confused on what date she was talking about. She said there's a couple of things that we're going to align and Laurie just picked July. What it reminded me of. Is that parks and REC episode where they want to rent the park for the end of the world and So they move, they move the date. That's what I feel like was happening Laurie. She's like Oh, I think it's going to be the state. Oh wait. There's an earthquake coming that day. Let's move it over here so I. Don't understand any of this. So Melanie. Events are talking about how glorious deals now and if she thinks that she's questioning herself. And Melanie says Chad claims to be the vision or that he was and I believe he was a visionary, and I do believe that he does have that gift He did a number on her and in her church. She says in the Mormon Church and the LDS church. She says the police people believe that they can and do have visions, and she said I would think that if he was such a visionary that he would have seen this coming. I think the bigger question is. Would he care no? No. No he he got, he wanted he wanted the girl that. Fond over him, and believed every word he said and he he got they also got rid of her children because they were in the way, and he got rid of the kids. The teenage girl that probably would have been like. Right the way they described highly, she was strong willed I. Feel like she would have been like wait. What is happening now? What is going on and she was? Just beyond her years at least the way that she came across and some of those interviews. where she was like talking Laurie down and she was talking like out and the police it was. It was very like her age I. Don't think I would've been acted like that to be honest. She was sounded like a responsible like. Very Smart Young Woman so. Yeah, she probably would have been like mom. What is this? What do you mean you're marrying the sky a few weeks? What his wife just died, you know. So. I think that's why she got rid of her first Yup and then Jj. Maybe she wanted to keep him, and then it was just he was too difficult. And maybe I mean all of his comfort. Sources were taken away. Tyler was taken away. Bailey was taken away. Medicine was taken, and someone actually brought up a really good point and a facebook group that I was reading I forgot which one I'm sorry, but they said that you know a child with autism is severe that he had. Charles was the only father figure that he knew so not only that you took away his father figure his dog history ability his home all of it. Fray and moving just moving in general, there's medication and his sister. Yeah what what did you think was going to happen? Because even I feel like any child at almost any age moving from one state and again. Arizona and Idaho are very very different. That's a big move. So that's that and then yeah. Teenage girl getting moved is also very hard because she had a good friend. Circle here, so yeah I? Think there's a lot of different reasons why they wanted to get rid of the children I. Don't think it was because there were no I completely agree I think that Chad wanted to have this hot, blonde new still and as much as everything that he wanted. Wanted to do, and there's children's stood in his way, and that is honestly what I think the root of all of this as agreed. Luckily, his were organise. They're lucky that they were grown. And what I think is so disturbing behind all of this is that his children seemingly are one hundred percent behind him, and it's come out also that Chad children met Laurie after the funeral the same day. is that is that I don't even understand how you bring that up to your kid. Just, Oh, your mom died after the funeral. Let's go to my girlfriend's house, Niki. I then like you say Emma or one of his children I would have knocked him on his ass. Yeah, or after the the storage facility video came out. He grabs her, but clearly in the video. That would have been the time to walk away. You're like no. You were cheating on mom. My Mom's dead and you immediately married someone else. What? This isn't adding up to me. Dad exactly and maybe they have had that. Maybe he spouted his nonsense about how. The portal told him to do it I don't know. Maybe. They're you know. Maybe they're brainwash headlong. Jadon had been having these visions or what he had been teaching his children either well, he claims what some of them started. When he jumped off the cliff when he was in young HR, and that's where the veil lifted bender lifted or got misplaced. But yeah, he jumped off this cliff. He claims that he saw all this crazy stuff. And then it continued from there I believe the next question in the interview is nate s Melanie if she's thought about how it's going to be like how? It's GonNa feel if she's called to testify in court and then she sitting there, just a couple of feet from Laurie. Having to look her in the eye, and Melanie says that she's thought about that quite a bit and then says that she still has love in her heart for Laurie. Yes so when she says that she says it'll be hard to see her in her jail outfit and not be able to look as pretty as she'd want to be. She doesn't want to be in there. Why I'm obviously obviously, I don't care if that she doesn't get to put on her makeup or curl her hair. Or you know it's turning to sue pair. Know who who thinks that if you truly truly think that she killed her family, how do you care about what she looks like? She also was given choices during this time, right, she chose this this. Wasn't anyone else putting her into this? She chose to make those choices of her kids disappearing. She chose. To call her brother over when Charles in my opinion would have just left, because he offered here to help jj in the car knowledge, and then she took the phone. So. How does she have so much love for a person that she believes could kill children because children aren't. Because, the children are dead again. It is part of this. They're in a better place there in the celestial kingdom there okay, the kids are okay now, so it's not so much that it's just well. Laurie still now has a chance to repent. Laurie now has a chance to make this okay, and this is where all all my feelings for Melanie like this part. where she was worrying about how pretty she looked in her jail outfit. At a hearing, or whatever this is where I was just like no melody, but yes, so this part with Melania just where I wash my hands of her, and I'm like no. I mean I I am still grateful that she came forward. I I'm grateful for all this information. And again I do believe she is brave coming through and speaking about what she was also involved in, but just that she is thinking of something so stupid made me so angry. Yeah, no agree, and she did say that she sorrowful. All of those who have quote had to pass away good people. No one had no no wounded, and she said if that doctrine was not revealed than these people would not have died. God veils us for most knowledge before we come to this earth. He doesn't want us to now. So, she contradicts herself a little. There I feel but yeah, because she was talking about I. Think he has a gift and I think he's still good people and. Like you're. You're saying two different things right there, so then right? Here's where Nate Asks Melanie Chad and that he he thinks that most people think Laureus leading chat along. And Melody. As that Lori is a puppet in Chad. Is the Hey yes, I think I agree with that, though yeah, big time, but still get out of it. She says that they are to people who have a lot of passion and think a lot of like. He comes off as reserved and quiet, but Lori is not, and she says ultimately they're both equally bad for one another true. Why weren't you a friend that said? I think this is wrong at that time. Nate. Laureus funds a lot of time reading scripture and singing hymns in jail and Melanie goes out, and she doubles down on Laura's knowledge of Scriptures. She says she's like you know. Laurie does love the Lord she loves Scriptures and beautiful things, you know Hawaii and whatnot. She says that lorries love for the Lord and Gospel of Jesus Crisis at her heart, and this has to be an incredibly painful thing to her that she has to come to believe that what she's gone against. That she's gone against what is true but Melanie follows up by saying that she doesn't know Lori will ever get to the point where she understands that she actually did wrong. Yeah, I don't I don't buy that Melanie. Truly thinks it's wrong anymore, but then nate us. Melanie this very question. What should happen to Laurean? Chad if they are found guilty and melanie pauses for a second and says whatever the punishment is in our country jail time etcetera. She says that whenever you take someone's life, it's safer for them to be in a place where they can't influence other people. Yeah! She thinks that what they teach is bad needs to be hidden away from others to find before more. I but then also she says whenever you take someone's life, and at this moment, neither of them have taken anyone's lives right to our knowledge. Sentenced on I think they have obviously. There's no charges yet right but I've been filed. So, what does she mean? Does. She know that they killed. I. And this is a gun. I, feel. She knows more, but again I just don't feel like. She believes like they did ultimate wrong. I feel like whatever the punishment is in this country. No like had I been a friend or say a Melanie's situation right, but not bought into the bullshit out. have been like they deserve jail time. They just jail for the rest of their lives. You can't kill people and to me. She wasn't that adamant about it. She was like. Oh, well, you know just whatever the punishment is here like. Obsessed with both. Yeah, exactly like she is, she's still in the deprogramming phase I believe or maybe she's not even deprogramming, because she's still into the end of times visionary crab maybe. So Anyway Nathan mentions her relationship Tammy's family, because it's come out that Melanie has been in contact and connected to one person and Tammy's family and we don't know who that is. And she said that it was healing this person. TAMMY's fun family supposedly settled. It was healing for her to hear Melanie. Share her her feelings and thoughts and and things that have happened. I buy that because if someone murdered someone in my family, or they said while they had to die to complete some sort of weird mission. I would find that. Happy. And Like I would embrace that with anger and hate you don't like someone did this because they have to? What mission? I don't I want to know wasn't one of her kids. That's reaching out to her or that. That's bought into this to know. So then made asks about Melanie's podcasts like your podcast right and she says yes. The podcast was my idea, and she also decided to write a book and wanted to do a podcast to share some of her own experiences with having basically a change of heart, and the doctrine of Christ Laurie came in, and joined later on, and the podcast was primarily melanie. GOB But Lori came on and joined for quite a few of them, and then Chad did as well Chad was on the podcast two times in person and two times on the phone, and then they had other occasional gas, Jason Maui and. Now Palau Ski and others. Yes, she said that there. There's a few of them that did it. And then Laurie joined I wanNA say she said like towards the end and then yeah. Chad was on a couple of times. Here's where we get into crazy train. This is a all aboard the crazy train Choo Choo. We're off now is made us. What is the one thing you want? People people to remember about Melanie Gab, and she laughed, and she was like well I. Actually don't want them to remember me at all, and she said I didn't remember. I didn't want to get known this way. If I, am remembered to the person who loved the Group of people in trouble to know that being deceived can be very dangerous. Listening to your own revelation up. People's is very important. Not Letting people tell you what to do for your own. To really seek personal revelations yourself, and not putting your trust and flesh she said, do not put your trust in the arm of flesh, and that's what everyone dead. So. It sounds normal enough, right? She starts to get like a little bit biblical, and then how I want to be known as the person who came forward, because kids are fucking missing or right well, yeah, like the the reason to be remembered was really silly. or not remembered I guess but yeah, she should be like I'm the one that brought justice to this family. Something along those lines. Would it make more sense? But it is true, though like you shouldn't be trusting everything in one person like you need to make your own choices and that that's something that she needs to understand like her and Laurie both had. Had Choices and all of this and every single thing that they did. They didn't have to just go. Okay, Chad knows everything. You could have been like this sounds weird. You know like the. Would you jump off a cliff? If someone told you to lay off, this is weird. I probably shouldn't jump off this cliff. Lake Chad dead. Right. So then. Melanie's asked if she had any interaction with Chad's family. And what she would say them and she says No. she says she's feeling for their journey, and she has no desire to say anything about people that's hurtful or or anything like that just truthful, and that that makes sense, but she does say she does care about Chad's kids, and so does Tammy. Like Yeah Yeah. I'm glad those kids are safe, but these kids are still following Chad to write like his kids are. And, then she knows that the kids met Laurie in the. This is the part that I just like this is nonsense Laurie how the kids over at our townhouse for cookies after Tammy's funeral. And that I know I already talked about it, but that just makes no sense to me. You know while they're grieving for their dead mother. Their father and their mother had been married for a long time. And then just let's go to your new girlfriend's house. And by all accounts. The children fell in love with Laurie. I don't understand. My brain can't process that. That makes no sense. I don't understand any type of person that can just go mom stat. Hey, new girlfriend I love you. Know, that makes no sense to me, and then it's just like to. Has He done to these kids? And I know they're not cancer adults now, but did he do to them to make them just so i. don't know I. Know How you've mentioned to like there. She's in a better place or whatever, but and they said that she was leading some weird mission. But I still feel like at the end of the day. They should be missing their mom. but Melanie says that she thinks Chad is a good guy, and she still likes him as a person, but his teachings are dangerous. And were US mad about that statement as I arranged, I was like. Is Monica Guy? He's a piece shut. He's not a guy. He's evil. He's facilitated most likely the alleged murder of children and his own wife like no I was like he's not a good person. A good person does not allow children die. Anyone honestly they don't allow anyone to die. For stupid reasons, but kids like how do you? He was seven at the time How do you hurt a seven-year-old boy? So, the nate asks her what she would say to Chad if he's watching. Which I actually dying to know, I wonder if shot is in fact watching this, because for some reason, he's still walking around just fine day. And Melanie says I still care about you and Laurie I. Know what you're going through as painful, but God taught us to be honest. There's no exception to those rules. And then she goes on to say that she's. She has piece speaking the truth She says she's happy that they lied to police about it because it made her face it and realize that all of this was wrong. No it just gave her an exit row on the Laurie free exact. Got Her off, Laurie freeway. She says that her faith got stronger in a way. That's changed forever She says that she hopes that they realize that. When we open the doors to darkness, they tell us things we want, but we're taught to bridal our passions to be zealot, but not over zealous. She says that we have to learn how to have patients wanting nothing, and sometimes when we really want something that's when we fall. Sometimes, the answer is no wait. Laurie did not have patience. It led to a fatal attraction unfortunately, and that was in fact a direct quote. She used the lead to a fatal attraction. And she flattered Chad a lot so lot like great guy, Wonderful Visionary, this that and the other and some people are speculating now was it self preservation on her part for being so deceived being embarrassed, or was she doing on purpose to try to have him kind of lean and listened to her I don't know I really think I didn't really get data. Data from it and I guess that's a possibility that I didn't think of, but I think that she might still be a little scared, because if he does deem her Zombie and if she does believe in this, he could do his weird prayer and get her kill will also less we not forget that Chad is, but in one branch of a tree supposedly. So Sh- so more so we CL- so we learn from one of the documents that document from an ploughs computer is actually true. Chad and his Group of Mary Idiots is but one little branch of a larger tree of other groups and other areas, states and so forth. So it is possible that she could be scared. Yeah, and I! I do think to. Just you know him. Leaning into listening may be confess. I do think he might be the weakest link though I know he's the weakest link. Yeah, she would have confessed by now. She's going to yeah, and she is not going to confess I mean. She's not getting out of jail. She knows that no one can afford it. No one's GONNA put up her bail money right? She is not going anywhere she meets. Meets, she is she's going to go down with this entire ship. She's going to be singing until the very end I do believe I do truly believe that Chad is going to be indicted and charged and the next couple weeks. This is just how I my my gut feeling. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I feel that Chad is going to be indicted and charged here in the upcoming weeks and I feel like he is going to confess, but try to blame all of it on Alex. I believe that he is going to say that. All of this happened but Alex. Alex committed the murders. And I believe that Lori is probably going to do the same thing most likely, but I feel like they're going to be able to find the holes in it and realized that it wasn't just Alex I. believe that they will like with electron of communication and whatnot all right I just feel like all of them are are ultimately going to go down. They're not going to get out of anything I. Hope not so Nathan Astle. Melanie, ultimately! What? What did Chatham Laurie wants? Do they want power followers money? What did they want? And Melanie says will, it's very personal and I hate to share it out loud. That was weird like. What is so personal about wanting you know like charity says like that they They had this weird attraction, and they needed to be together, and they wanted each other so badly and just. Why like how hard is it to say? They wanted to start their own church. They wanted to have much followers. They wanted to be rich without kids. Yeah, what? What's so personal I. Don't get and what is she leaving and she just doubled down on. It was a fatal attraction. Fatal attraction. She said there was a lot of love between the two of them. They just could not wait to be together. And the nate asked her about lust was lust involved than she just said so. Basically Mr Potato got himself a pretty blonde, a new hot blonde, and they just couldn't. They just wanted to throw away their families and children and be together. That's but I don't understand Laurie side of it because hers was definitely a downgrade. Like she had A. if you've been seeing all like the memes and stuff online, but like her beautiful house with goals. Arizona in you know the the pools and the trips to Hawaii, and just all of this for Chad and I've seen chats house it is. It's a pretty property like it's. It's big, but it's not what she had here because sometimes I mean I'm talking about women in particular. I mean if you look at all of these different cult leaders, even gurus right like new age type spirituality, a lot of women will fall in love with their guru or a cult leader, just because they have charisma or a personality, or Lori was deeply devoutly religious so. Here's Chad saying that his veil has lifted, and he's an Exalted One and then don't forget to that. He said that they were supposed to be that. That Lori was special, so I mean it's the classic pickup artists, bullshit that he pulled plus the added religious aspect. That maybe she is like a drama seeker and she had it to stable. Like from all accounts that I understand about Charles's, he was an overall good guy. They were pretty well off, and it seemed like they had a pretty happy family. Like even Koby, when he talks about Charles he he's only really said good things. Right my job. So I don't understand how you would leave all of that and not seen just as you know the stuff, but I mean like the way that it sounds and all the memes and everything are making the stawell their house oust house. There was in that Camp Police Cam video right of of Charles. Getting the police because the house was lockdown. The police asked Charles. How long has this been going on? And Charles said four to five years. In just the amount of love that he had for her though. And how he says it over and over again, he loves this crazy woman, and then Nope, let's throw it all away. Let's go for Mr Potato Head. The worst place in the world. For arizonans. I can't do snow and I know that. She mentioned she'd Ne- WanNa go there. That's not my place, so just her leaving this great life with a loving husband to move to Idaho, which is an entirely different climate that I will say I am not a fan of. To live in I, mean I guess. I'm just assuming eventually. Move in with Chad. I just don't understand I don't either, but the interview is then closed. And Nate Asks Melanie, what would you say to Laurie? And this is the first time Melanie actually starts to tear up like immediately, and she says we laughed a lot. I love her. I'm so sorry that she has been so deceived by Chad and that she has also been deceived by other people on the other side of the Vale pretending to be good when they are not. She got tricked the same thing. When we want something really badly, we go into our heart Christ. Christ always went forward in love that was his whole mission. Their mission does not align with the one that would walk with Christ. I know you're suffering I. Think if every day in jail alone without Chad. Who loves you who you love? La Alone without Chad, who you love I know that's painful for you. I wish none of this happened. I have learned a great deal about deception, and now you have learned a greater deal about deception. I just hope that you can put aside. A lot of what you're wants are available. He's a good God. He died for her to. They're still Ho. That's what I would want to say to you. And then at that point melodies crying. So when she said that they've been tricked and they've been deceived. By other people on the other side of the Vale, is she saying all of this is actually truthful? It's just the person on the other side of the veil. That was was the bad guy. Yes, that told them to do bad things, and then. Chad's just listening blindly to the bad guy on the other side of the Vale. That's how I'm taking. Okay well as as you agree. which I mean it's. It's about shit. Right? Not The only one that wanted to slim down my headphones and be like Oh, my God used urologic earlier again. She said knowing things. happening or something along those lines isn't the right thing to be doing. And yet she's just blaming the magic person on the other side of the Magic Mirror. Okay. So the nate kind of ends it with. Do you think that she'll say where the kids are? and. Melanie says it doesn't look like it with these beliefs. She mentioned the conversation about how Laurie again that. If Chad was Satan, he was really good one. And it could be true, and he was doing and saying the right things. In! No, there's no under no circumstance and I think it. Yeah, it's just a mom thing just like no one could talk you into hurting your children. That's so stupid that you would just. Blindly go to this weird portal man that says your child is as Ambi-. I, it's just. Heartbreaking and I'm so angry about it and just the fact that they literally just got to go and honeymoon and have a great time, and those pictures are beautiful and all of this just so they could be together. When there's other people, too. That were willing to take on these kids entirely almost eighteen. Yeah, they there. There's so many different avenues and better choices. They have made ultimately. They chose like the worst possible thing in the world yeah. In the Melanie I love them. Johnson, great guy. No He's not a great Guy Melanie I. Need to talk to Melanie. It doesn't seem like Melanie is GonNa end this crop anytime soon because her boyfriend's into the same stuff, so hey, melanie I think you need to kind of take a moment to reevaluate your life honey. So that's it for our discussion of the Melanie. Give interview I know. We went line by line word for word, but I feel like we kind of had thoughts on everything. Right yeah and I wanted to hear someone else's thoughts to it just for us to discuss it and see if if our interpretations were what some of the other people were thinking, too, but if you have different interpretations on some of the things that she said like I very much want to hear it so either comment on youtube or feel free to email asset. We saw the double at Jamal. DOT, com. com because I wanNA hear other people's thoughts and also know that when Amanda and I record this. We actually don't discuss anything before we sit down to record so we don't know what the other one like thinks believes how they perceived things anything like that. No, we try to go into a blind, so we can have a discussion on it. Exactly I think we agree most of the time at least. So that's it for? This guy is again. Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. We appreciate all the love and the comments conversations on twitter and Youtube. And again if you would not mind taking a moment out of your life, please leave us a an I tunes review. It'll take just a second. You can do it from your phone. If you don't have an Iphone, you can do it from your PC. It would mean a lot's green. Yeah, we! We do everything to so just now when you leave a comment. If you don't respond right away, we have read it. 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