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"All right. So we're taping part one here. It is a little past 4 o'clock Pacific time. Just watch the Pats completely shit the bed. We're not going to talk about that. That'll be part two. Part one. Ryan Russilla was here. We're talking Drew Holiday. The big trade. How is the NBA different for you right now, and are we done? Do we finally have the 30 rosters? Is this what we're looking at? Do we know who's going to be on everybody's team, or are we somehow not done? I never think we're done anymore in the NBA, and I know you're being a gracious host here, but you and I talked for five minutes today. I think you have the headline take on this, okay? I think you have the headline take on what the top of the league looks like. Are you ready to share it this early? I think Boston has the best top six. I did not feel that way 24 hours ago. I did not feel like there was a clear best. I trust this team in crunch time, and if Porzingis stays healthy, which is a huge if, I think they have the best six, and they can fill around, and they have the most ways that they can play whoever in the series. So from that vantage point, you had to do the trade. And they gave up a center who has been hurt every single year, and I don't fully trust that he's ever going to be out there when it matters. Brogdon, who was hurt, who was mad at the team, and two picks. And you get Drew Holliday, who was a 2021 Finals hero, who's one of the best defensive guards in the league, who's still really good, and just raises their ceiling. Now you can go white Holliday, Tatum Brown, and a center at crunch time, and you're good. You can switch on almost everything, especially if you get anything from Horford. So were you similarly enthused? Yeah, I love Drew. There's some stuff with his shooting in the playoffs where it's been pretty bad, or you're like, is that just because you can't make shots at the playoffs, or is it just what happened statistically? I mean, it does happen. I mean, if I'm getting the negative parts out of the way, like, yeah, sure, he's a little bit older. The big situation is a huge question mark. I can't believe what they got from Horford last year. So I don't know if you can just pencil that in, because he was way beyond expectations, at least for me, or for what I had for him. But when you can add Drew for those pieces, and I'm with you, when Rob Williams is right, it's really, really nice. But you can even tell when he's out there, you're like, is something wrong with him again? The number of times that I've watched Rob Williams in Celtics games, I'm like, I know he's out there, but wait, something. And every time, I thought Marcus Smart was trying to end his career with some of those Valley U passes, depending on how he lands, like, wait, is this going to be the last one we ever see from him? So to me, it makes a lot of sense. By the way, on that Rob point, my dad texted me after the trade, he's like, oh, I hate giving up Rob. I'm like, you complained about Rob more than anybody I know in my life. You would text me from the games going, oh, Rob's just off in the, Rob just walked in the tunnel again. I don't know what happened. I just like Brian Barrett had a tweet, 32 games, 29 games, 52 games, 61 games, 35 games. Those are Rob Williams' last five years. It just wasn't reliable enough for a team that's trying to win a title. I interrupted you. No, you didn't, because it's a it's a really good point, because what's going to happen? I mean, you know, it's just there's there's definitely like if Prozingis is hurt, it feels like the whole thing is screwed up and there's a really good chance that that could happen. But if you're talking about like the allocation of minutes and the talent that's getting those minutes, well, the talent that's getting those minutes just went up with Drew Holiday. And that's, I think, the simplest way to look at it. So they they turn Marcus Smart and Grant Williams and Brogdon and Rob Williams into Drew Holiday and Prozingis, more Derek White minutes, more Peyton Pritchard minutes. And then there's a little bit of an X factor with who's going to be like that ninth man, tenth man, kind of big four slash five person, maybe, or somebody you trade like that. I feel like that's the easiest position to pick up in January and February. The big thing for me is I think White was ready for a bigger role. I think White and Holiday together is magnificent as a as a backcourt. And I read some stuff today. They think White's going to come off the bench. I don't know if I see that. I think I would come out of the gates with White and Holiday and Tatum and Brown in the center and maybe bring to your Horford point, like maybe bring Horford off the bench and try to really try to rest his minutes during the season and be careful with him and make him a bench player. And then the playoffs reassess. But I think that having those four guys all together, they complement each other so well. You can play basically any kind of defense against any perimeter guy in the league. Those four guys and they're just better. I mean, there's there's just no way around it. They're better. He's a much better player than Marcus Smart was last year. And you know, you made that point about the shooting. He'd have those games. He'd go 5 for 22 in a playoff game. You know, he'd eat. But I do feel like he was asked to do a little bit more than maybe what he's supposed to be doing. I don't feel like he's a pure point guard. Right. Now you have White who can handle most of the ball handling. He could play off the ball and they're going to get the best version of him. Awesome locker room guy, too, by all accounts. I mean, really like a beloved teammate wherever he went. And I think they wanted to change the chemistry a little bit. I think this was an unhappier team than maybe they led on to the outside world last year. Yeah. Look, I definitely like him more than Smart. And you know, to be totally fair, when I'm looking at like the Lillard side of this trade last week before we knew the second piece of Drew and upgrading from Drew to Lillard, I'm going, OK, well, now you're top two in Milwaukee's like in the argument for the best two in the NBA. OK, that's that's really what this league has been about now post the teens decade where it was the arms race for your top three. It's you look around the league, you go, OK, who's got the two best? Like, let's come up with the five teams who have the two best. And with Lillard and Giannis, that's like a whole nother level. So when I was looking at it, it's like Lillard compared to Drew, you know, Drew is not somebody you're expecting to break down a defense off the dribble. Right. Oh, we're stuck into the shot clock, like make something happen where Lillard can literally do anything right in the final second of the shot clock and still you feel like it's still a decent look. So that part of it's a huge upgrade. But he's number three to four as far as an offensive option. He also and I don't know, this is just me talking out loud as I thought about the trade. It's pretty clear that when Boston's offense gets into trouble in the playoffs, like Tatum and Brown haven't figured out a way to kind of unlock it other than just like I can already picture my head like I know what the Tatum move is going to be. I already know what the Jaylen Brown move is going to be. And I don't know if Smart was able to make their life easier with the playmaking. And then sometimes I even think Smart would go like, well, if you guys are going to screw around, like I might just I might just be green light on this possession. I don't think Drew necessarily plays that way. So, you know, it's probably silly for me to think that like Drew is going to be the Steve Nash type who comes in and sets up all these great late playoff possessions. But there may be something in lessening the burden of those guys feeling that they have to do or defaulting to just forcing the issue as much as they do in the playoffs. I like how much ball handling they have, to your point, because they were talking about experimenting a little bit more with Tatum as a point forward this year, which makes me nervous a little bit just because, you know, he's six foot nine. I'm not sure that's the best use of him, but they seem pretty adamant. Like we feel like he could be a little bit more of a creator. And then you think White can do that. To me, White is the key to this season now, because if, you know, other than the Porzingis health thing, which I almost I'm going to knock on wood, but part of the reason they made all this movement and they got rid of Brogdon and Smart was I think they really wanted to push White to be the lead ball handler for them and a creator. And there's some unbelievable pick and roll stats with him. And just if certain people set him a pick in the way, even in the Miami series, he was one of the only guys who could create offense. So I think they have that plus they have Drew. And the reality is for Drew, this is this might be the deepest offensive team he's been on. Right. When you think back to like it was on some pretty weird Philly teams and some pretty weird New Orleans teams, and even when Milwaukee was at its best, it was really just Giannis, Middleton and Drew. And that was it. This is there's more shooting and playmaking around him than I think we've seen. Maybe it'll be a slight upgrade on the flip side. He doesn't have Giannis, who was the second best player of the century, probably, but I like the spot for him. It seemed like he really wanted to go to a contending team and I don't really know who they were competing against because for reading through some of the reports, it just seemed like Philly. I don't even know what the trade was for them. Portland wanted at least one piece back, probably two that they could do their keeper package. They wanted picks back. Golden State wasn't even in it. And it didn't seem like OKC ever threw their hat in the ring, which I was shocked by because I felt like OKC was the sleeping giant of this whole thing with Dort and some picks and just say, fuck it, let's let's see if we can be really good this year. So it seemed like it was down to Boston. The Clippers, they just had more assets. I don't know if Portland keeps Rob. He's on a good contract. They already have Ayton. My guess is that they're probably spinning him. Does it make sense that both of those guys? My sense is they're going to try it out, you know, but, you know, the thing with Rob is like, if you think he's an awesome defensive player that's just out there, like he's awesome when he's used a certain way. And once Boston unlocked that two years ago, where they stuck him on a non shooting big and then you could see other teams adapt to it, it's like, well, let's stop giving them an out where Rob can just roam off of this dude that's not a shooting threat, because I think that, you know, this is just going to turn into like now that he's not here. But I mean, have you listened to us talk about Rob Williams at all last couple of years? He you know, I don't I don't think he's I know what the defensive metrics are. I know the on off stuff. It's a big reason why I think the analytics models always love Boston. Like sometimes you look at him and be like, hey, I think this team's good, but like these numbers are overwhelming. This is like, yeah, it's it's so far like as if there's this huge gap between Boston and everybody else, which I never really felt going back these last two years. But if you're Chauncey Billups and you think like, OK, Rob Williams is going to go out there and like wreak havoc, it's like, well, he has to be used a certain way. So maybe they feel like that's in defensive support to Aiten. And with Aiten, you know, I have I'm not quite sure what to expect. Well, this is the one thing he's probably going to put up huge numbers because he's not going to have older dudes that have a higher status in the league that go, I'm sick of passing it to you. So he's probably going to get more touches. We'll probably see like early Aiten numbers and like twenty to ten for the first six weeks of the season. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Like he'll he'll he'll put up some big numbers there. But, you know, defensively, it's really about his competitiveness because there were times I think going back two years ago when we were thinking about him with that run of the Suns, the finals, you're like, look at this guy. Like he can switch out on the smaller players. You can rotate. But it's all about the way he's wired. And I think long term, unfortunately, like we already kind of know the answer there. Like I don't think all of a sudden now you start playing with some fierceness after being in the league this long. So he was the fifth option on that team and there seemed to be real resentment toward him in that whole Phoenix culture of like, why doesn't he just realize we don't need his offense? We need him to basically rebound and block shots and crash the offensive boards. I think his attitude was probably twenty five years old. I want to be the best player I can be. I already went to a finals. I don't that's not I think I could do more than that. So I don't I don't think anyone was necessarily wrong. As I said, on my Thursday pot, I just hated the trade for Phoenix. I just thought they got the poopoo platter back. You know, they got some some some spare ribs back and a couple of egg rolls and and that's it. But they did not get an entree back. And I think he's an entree on the right team, whether he's a guy that made sense for them. I don't know. But I know that they didn't get a good haul for him. I think Rob, for his contract, for what his talents are, is a really intriguing piece for them or for another team, because you could trade for him. And it's not like a daunting salary. Right. I think he's in what is what is it, like 15 a year or something like that? No, it's a really good. Yeah. I mean, it was a really low cost extension and he's still a pretty young guy. Yes, so.
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"All right. So we're taping part one here. It is a little past 4 o 'clock Pacific time. Just watch the Pats completely shit the bed. We're not going to talk about that. That'll be part two. Part one. Ryan Russilla was here. We're talking Drew Holiday. The big trade. How is the NBA different for you right now, and are we done? Do we finally have the 30 rosters? Is this what we're looking at? Do we know who's going to be on everybody's team, or are we somehow not done? I never think we're done anymore in the NBA, and I know you're being a gracious host here, but you and I talked for five minutes today. I think you have the headline take on this, okay? I think you have the headline take on what the top of the league looks like. Are you ready to share it this early? I think Boston has the best top six. I did not feel that way 24 hours ago. I did not feel like there was a clear best. I trust this team in crunch time, and if Porzingis stays healthy, which is a huge if, I think they have the best six, and they can fill around, and they have the most ways that they can play whoever in the series. So from that vantage point, you had to do the trade. And they gave up a center who has been hurt every single year, and I don't fully trust that he's ever going to be out there when it matters. Brogdon, who was hurt, who was mad at the team, and two picks. And you get Drew Holliday, who was a 2021 Finals hero, who's one of the best defensive guards in the league, who's still really good, and just raises their ceiling. Now you can go white Holliday, Tatum Brown, and a center at crunch time, and you're good. You can switch on almost everything, especially if you get anything from Horford. So were you similarly enthused? Yeah, I love Drew. There's some stuff with his shooting in the playoffs where it's been pretty bad, or you're like, is that just because you can't make shots at the playoffs, or is it just what happened statistically? I mean, it does happen. I mean, if I'm getting the negative parts out of the way, like, yeah, sure, he's a little bit older. The big situation is a huge question mark. I can't believe what they got from Horford last year. So I don't know if you can just pencil that in, because he was way beyond expectations, at least for me, or for what I had for him. But when you can add Drew for those pieces, and I'm with you, when Rob Williams is right, it's really, really nice. But you can even tell when he's out there, you're like, is something wrong with him again? The number of times that I've watched Rob Williams in Celtics games, I'm like, I know he's out there, but wait, something. And every time, I thought Marcus Smart was trying to end his career with some of those Valley U passes, depending on how he lands, like, wait, is this going to be the last one we ever see from him? So to me, it makes a lot of sense. By the way, on that Rob point, my dad texted me after the trade, he's like, oh, I hate giving up Rob. I'm like, you complained about Rob more than anybody I know in my life. You would text me from the games going, oh, Rob's just off in the, Rob just walked in the tunnel again. I don't know what happened. I like just Brian Barrett had a tweet, 32 games, 29 games, 52 games, 61 games, 35 games. Those are Rob Williams' last five years. It just wasn't reliable enough for a team that's trying to win a title. I interrupted you. No, you didn't, because it's a it's a really good point, because what's going to happen? I mean, you know, it's just there's there's definitely like if Prozingis is hurt, it feels like the whole thing is screwed up and there's a really good chance that that could happen. But if you're talking about like the allocation of minutes and the talent that's getting those minutes, well, the talent that's getting those minutes just went up with Drew Holiday. And that's, I think, the simplest way to look at it. So they they turn Marcus Smart and Grant Williams and Brogdon and Rob Williams into Drew Holiday and Prozingis, more Derek White minutes, more Peyton Pritchard minutes. And then there's a little bit of an X factor with who's going to be like that ninth man, tenth man, kind of big four slash five person, maybe, or somebody you trade like that. I feel like that's the easiest position to pick up in January and February. The big thing for me is I think White was ready for a bigger role. I think White and Holiday together is magnificent as a as a backcourt. And I read some stuff today. They think White's going to come off the bench. I don't know if I see that. I think I would come out of the gates with White and Holiday and Tatum and Brown in the center and maybe bring to your Horford point, like maybe bring Horford off the bench and try to really try to rest his minutes during the season and be careful with him and make him a bench player. And then the playoffs reassess. But I think that having those four guys all together, they complement each other so well. You can play basically any kind of defense against any perimeter guy in the league. Those four guys and they're just better. I mean, there's there's just no way around it. They're better. He's a much better player than Marcus Smart was last year. And you know, you made that point about the shooting. He'd have those games. He'd go 5 for 22 in a playoff game. You know, he'd eat. But I do feel like he was asked to do a little bit more than maybe what he's supposed to be doing. I don't feel like he's a pure point guard. Right. Now you have White who can handle most of the ball handling. He could play off the ball and they're going to get the best version of him. Awesome locker room guy, too, by all accounts. I mean, really like a beloved teammate wherever he went. And I think they wanted to change the chemistry a little bit. I think this was an unhappier team than maybe they led on to the outside world last year. Yeah. Look, I definitely like him more than Smart. And you know, to be totally fair, when I'm looking at like the Lillard side of this trade last week before we knew the second piece of Drew and upgrading from Drew to Lillard, I'm going, OK, well, now you're top two in Milwaukee's like in the argument for the best two in the NBA. OK, that's that's really what this league has been about now post the teens decade where it was the arms race for your top three. It's you look around the league, you go, OK, who's got the two best? Like, let's come up with the five teams who have the two best. And with Lillard and Giannis, that's like a whole nother level. So when I was looking at it, it's like Lillard compared to Drew, you know, Drew is not somebody you're expecting to break down a defense off the dribble. Right. Oh, we're stuck into the shot clock, like make something happen where Lillard can literally do anything right in the final second of the shot clock and still you feel like it's still a decent look. So that part of it's a huge upgrade. But he's number three to four as far as an offensive option. He also and I don't know, this is just me talking out loud as I thought about the trade. It's pretty clear that when Boston's offense gets into trouble in the playoffs, like Tatum and Brown haven't figured out a way to kind of unlock it other than just like I can already picture my head like I know what the Tatum move is going to be. I already know what the Jaylen Brown move is going to be. And I don't know if Smart was able to make their life easier with the playmaking. And then sometimes I even think Smart would go like, well, if you guys are going to screw around, like I might just I might just be green light on this possession. I don't think Drew necessarily plays that way. So, you know, it's probably silly for me to think that like Drew is going to be the Steve Nash type who comes in and sets up all these great late playoff possessions. But there may be something in lessening the burden of those guys feeling that they have to do or defaulting to just forcing the issue as much as they do in the playoffs. I like how much ball handling they have, to your point, because they were talking about experimenting a little bit more with Tatum as a point forward this year, which makes me nervous a little bit just because, you know, he's six foot nine. I'm not sure that's the best use of him, but they seem pretty adamant. Like we feel like he could be a little bit more of a creator. And then you think White can do that. To me, White is the key to this season now, because if, you know, other than the Porzingis health thing, which I almost I'm going to knock on wood, but part of the reason they made all this movement and they got rid of Brogdon and Smart was I think they really wanted to push White to be the lead ball handler for them and a creator. And there's some unbelievable pick and roll stats with him. And just if certain people set him a pick in the way, even in the Miami series, he was one of the only guys who could create offense. So I think they have that plus they have Drew. And the reality is for Drew, this is this might be the deepest offensive team he's been on. Right. When you think back to like it was on some pretty weird Philly teams and some pretty weird New Orleans teams, and even when Milwaukee was at its best, it was really just Giannis, Middleton and Drew. And that was it. This is there's more shooting and playmaking around him than I think we've seen. Maybe it'll be a slight upgrade on the flip side. He doesn't have Giannis, who was the second best player of the century, probably, but I like the spot for him. It seemed like he really wanted to go to a contending team and I don't really know who they were competing against because for reading through some of the reports, it just seemed like Philly. I don't even know what the trade was for them. Portland wanted at least one piece back, probably two that they could do their keeper package. They wanted picks back. Golden State wasn't even in it. And it didn't seem like OKC ever threw their hat in the ring, which I was shocked by because I felt like OKC was the sleeping giant of this whole thing with Dort and some picks and just say, fuck it, let's let's see if we can be really good this year. So it seemed like it was down to Boston. The Clippers, they just had more assets. I don't know if Portland keeps Rob. He's on a good contract. They already have Ayton. My guess is that they're probably spinning him. Does it make sense that both of those guys? My sense is they're going to try it out, you know, but, you know, the thing with Rob is like, if you think he's an awesome defensive player that's just out there, like he's awesome when he's used a certain way. And once Boston unlocked that two years ago, where they stuck him on a non shooting big and then you could see other teams adapt to it, it's like, well, let's stop giving them an out where Rob can just roam off of this dude that's not a shooting threat, because I think that, you know, this is just going to turn into like now that he's not here. But I mean, have you listened to us talk about Rob Williams at all last couple of years? He you know, I don't I don't think he's I know what the defensive metrics are. I know the on off stuff. It's a big reason why I think the analytics models always love Boston. Like sometimes you look at him and be like, hey, I think this team's good, but like these numbers are overwhelming. This is like, yeah, it's it's so far like as if there's this huge gap between Boston and everybody else, which I never really felt going back these last two years. But you're if Chauncey Billups and you think like, OK, Rob Williams is going to go out there and like wreak havoc, it's like, well, he has to be used a certain way. So maybe they feel like that's in defensive support to Aiten. And with Aiten, you know, I have I'm not quite sure what to expect. Well, this is the one thing he's probably going to put up huge numbers because he's not going to have older dudes that have a higher status in the league that go, I'm sick of passing it to you. So he's probably going to get more touches. We'll probably see like early Aiten numbers and like twenty to ten for the first six weeks of the season. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Like he'll he'll he'll put up some big numbers there. But, you know, defensively, it's really about his competitiveness because there were times I think going back two years ago when we were thinking about him with that run of the Suns, the finals, you're like, look at this guy. Like he can switch out on the smaller players. You can rotate. But it's all about the way he's wired. And I think long term, unfortunately, like we already kind of know the answer there. Like I don't think all of a sudden now you start playing with some fierceness after being in the league this long. So he was the fifth option on that team and there seemed to be real resentment toward him in that whole Phoenix culture of like, why doesn't he just realize we don't need his offense? We need him to basically rebound and block shots and crash the offensive boards. I think his attitude was probably twenty five years old. I want to be the best player I can be. I already went to a finals. I don't that's not I think I could do more than that. So I don't I don't think anyone was necessarily wrong. As I said, on my Thursday pot, I just hated the trade for Phoenix. I just thought they got the poopoo platter back. You know, they got some some some spare ribs back and a couple of egg rolls and and that's it. But they did not get an entree back. And I think he's an entree on the right team, whether he's a guy that made sense for them. I don't know. But I know that they didn't get a good haul for him. I think Rob, for his contract, for what his talents are, is a really intriguing piece for them or for another team, because you could trade for him. And it's not like a daunting salary. Right. I think he's in what is what is it, like 15 a year or something like that? No, it's a really good. Yeah. I mean, it was a really low cost extension and he's still a pretty young guy. Yes, so.
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"All right. So we're taping part one here. It is a little past 4 o'clock Pacific time. Just watch the Pats completely shit the bed. We're not going to talk about that. That'll be part two. Part one. Ryan Russilla was here. We're talking Drew Holiday. The big trade. How is the NBA different for you right now, and are we done? Do we finally have the 30 rosters? Is this what we're looking at? Do we know who's going to be on everybody's team, or are we somehow not done? I never think we're done anymore in the NBA, and I know you're being a gracious host here, but you and I talked for five minutes today. I think you have the headline take on this, okay? I think you have the headline take on what the top of the league looks like. Are you ready to share it this early? I think Boston has the best top six. I did not feel that way 24 hours ago. I did not feel like there was a clear best. I trust this team in crunch time, and if Porzingis stays healthy, which is a huge if, I think they have the best six, and they can fill around, and they have the most ways that they can play whoever in the series. So from that vantage point, you had to do the trade. And they gave up a center who has been hurt every single year, and I don't fully trust that he's ever going to be out there when it matters. Brogdon, who was hurt, who was mad at the team, and two picks. And you get Drew Holliday, who was a 2021 Finals hero, who's one of the best defensive guards in the league, who's still really good, and just raises their ceiling. Now you can go white Holliday, Tatum Brown, and a center at crunch time, and you're good. You can switch on almost everything, especially if you get anything from Horford. So were you similarly enthused? Yeah, I love Drew. There's some stuff with his shooting in the playoffs where it's been pretty bad, or you're like, is that just because you can't make shots at the playoffs, or is it just what happened statistically? I mean, it does happen. I mean, if I'm getting the negative parts out of the way, like, yeah, sure, he's a little bit older. The big situation is a huge question mark. I can't believe what they got from Horford last year. So I don't know if you can just pencil that in, because he was way beyond expectations, at least for me, or for what I had for him. But when you can add Drew for those pieces, and I'm with you, when Rob Williams is right, it's really, really nice. But you can even tell when he's out there, you're like, is something wrong with him again? The number of times that I've watched Rob Williams in Celtics games, I'm like, I know he's out there, but wait, something. And every time, I thought Marcus Smart was trying to end his career with some of those Valley U passes, depending on how he lands, like, wait, is this going to be the last one we ever see from him? So to me, it makes a lot of sense. By the way, on that Rob point, my dad texted me after the trade, he's like, oh, I hate giving up Rob. I'm like, you complained about Rob more than anybody I know in my life. You would text me from the games going, oh, Rob's just off in the, Rob just walked in the tunnel again. I don't know what happened. I just like Brian Barrett had a tweet, 32 games, 29 games, 52 games, 61 games, 35 games. Those are Rob Williams' last five years. It just wasn't reliable enough for a team that's trying to win a title. I interrupted you. No, you didn't, because it's a it's a really good point, because what's going to happen? I mean, you know, it's just there's there's definitely like if Prozingis is hurt, it feels like the whole thing is screwed up and there's a really good chance that that could happen. But if you're talking about like the allocation of minutes and the talent that's getting those minutes, well, the talent that's getting those minutes just went up with Drew Holiday. And that's, I think, the simplest way to look at it. So they they turn Marcus Smart and Grant Williams and Brogdon and Rob Williams into Drew Holiday and Prozingis, more Derek White minutes, more Peyton Pritchard minutes. And then there's a little bit of an X factor with who's going to be like that ninth man, tenth man, kind of big four slash five person, maybe, or somebody you trade like that. I feel like that's the easiest position to pick up in January and February. The big thing for me is I think White was ready for a bigger role. I think White and Holiday together is magnificent as a as a backcourt. And I read some stuff today. They think White's going to come off the bench. I don't know if I see that. I think I would come out of the gates with White and Holiday and Tatum and Brown in the center and maybe bring to your Horford point, like maybe bring Horford off the bench and try to really try to rest his minutes during the season and be careful with him and make him a bench player. And then the playoffs reassess. But I think that having those four guys all together, they complement each other so well. You can play basically any kind of defense against any perimeter guy in the league. Those four guys and they're just better. I mean, there's there's just no way around it. They're better. He's a much better player than Marcus Smart was last year. And you know, you made that point about the shooting. He'd have those games. He'd go 5 for 22 in a playoff game. You know, he'd eat. But I do feel like he was asked to do a little bit more than maybe what he's supposed to be doing. I don't feel like he's a pure point guard. Right. Now you have White who can handle most of the ball handling. He could play off the ball and they're going to get the best version of him. Awesome locker room guy, too, by all accounts. I mean, really like a beloved teammate wherever he went. And I think they wanted to change the chemistry a little bit. I think this was an unhappier team than maybe they led on to the outside world last year. Yeah. Look, I definitely like him more than Smart. And you know, to be totally fair, when I'm looking at like the Lillard side of this trade last week before we knew the second piece of Drew and upgrading from Drew to Lillard, I'm going, OK, well, now you're top two in Milwaukee's like in the argument for the best two in the NBA. OK, that's that's really what this league has been about now post the teens decade where it was the arms race for your top three. It's you look around the league, you go, OK, who's got the two best? Like, let's come up with the five teams who have the two best. And with Lillard and Giannis, that's like a whole nother level. So when I was looking at it, it's like Lillard compared to Drew, you know, Drew is not somebody you're expecting to break down a defense off the dribble. Right. Oh, we're stuck into the shot clock, like make something happen where Lillard can literally do anything right in the final second of the shot clock and still you feel like it's still a decent look. So that part of it's a huge upgrade. But he's number three to four as far as an offensive option. He also and I don't know, this is just me talking out loud as I thought about the trade. It's pretty clear that when Boston's offense gets into trouble in the playoffs, like Tatum and Brown haven't figured out a way to kind of unlock it other than just like I can already picture my head like I know what the Tatum move is going to be. I already know what the Jaylen Brown move is going to be. And I don't know if Smart was able to make their life easier with the playmaking. And then sometimes I even think Smart would go like, well, if you guys are going to screw around, like I might just I might just be green light on this possession. I don't think Drew necessarily plays that way. So, you know, it's probably silly for me to think that like Drew is going to be the Steve Nash type who comes in and sets up all these great late playoff possessions. But there may be something in lessening the burden of those guys feeling that they have to do or defaulting to just forcing the issue as much as they do in the playoffs. I like how much ball handling they have, to your point, because they were talking about experimenting a little bit more with Tatum as a point forward this year, which makes me nervous a little bit just because, you know, he's six foot nine. I'm not sure that's the best use of him, but they seem pretty adamant. Like we feel like he could be a little bit more of a creator. And then you think White can do that. To me, White is the key to this season now, because if, you know, other than the Porzingis health thing, which I almost I'm going to knock on wood, but part of the reason they made all this movement and they got rid of Brogdon and Smart was I think they really wanted to push White to be the lead ball handler for them and a creator. And there's some unbelievable pick and roll stats with him. And just if certain people set him a pick in the way, even in the Miami series, he was one of the only guys who could create offense. So I think they have that plus they have Drew. And the reality is for Drew, this is this might be the deepest offensive team he's been on. Right. When you think back to like it was on some pretty weird Philly teams and some pretty weird New Orleans teams, and even when Milwaukee was at its best, it was really just Giannis, Middleton and Drew. And that was it. This is there's more shooting and playmaking around him than I think we've seen. Maybe it'll be a slight upgrade on the flip side. He doesn't have Giannis, who was the second best player of the century, probably, but I like the spot for him. It seemed like he really wanted to go to a contending team and I don't really know who they were competing against because for reading through some of the reports, it just seemed like Philly. I don't even know what the trade was for them. Portland wanted at least one piece back, probably two that they could do their keeper package. They wanted picks back. Golden State wasn't even in it. And it didn't seem like OKC ever threw their hat in the ring, which I was shocked by because I felt like OKC was the sleeping giant of this whole thing with Dort and some picks and just say, fuck it, let's let's see if we can be really good this year. So it seemed like it was down to Boston. The Clippers, they just had more assets. I don't know if Portland keeps Rob. He's on a good contract. They already have Ayton. My guess is that they're probably spinning him. Does it make sense that both of those guys? My sense is they're going to try it out, you know, but, you know, the thing with Rob is like, if you think he's an awesome defensive player that's just out there, like he's awesome when he's used a certain way. And once Boston unlocked that two years ago, where they stuck him on a non shooting big and then you could see other teams adapt to it, it's like, well, let's stop giving them an out where Rob can just roam off of this dude that's not a shooting threat, because I think that, you know, this is just going to turn into like now that he's not here. But I mean, have you listened to us talk about Rob Williams at all last couple of years? He you know, I don't I don't think he's I know what the defensive metrics are. I know the on off stuff. It's a big reason why I think the analytics models always love Boston. Like sometimes you look at him and be like, hey, I think this team's good, but like these numbers are overwhelming. This is like, yeah, it's it's so far like as if there's this huge gap between Boston and everybody else, which I never really felt going back these last two years. But if you're Chauncey Billups and you think like, OK, Rob Williams is going to go out there and like wreak havoc, it's like, well, he has to be used a certain way. So maybe they feel like that's in defensive support to Aiten. And with Aiten, you know, I have I'm not quite sure what to expect. Well, this is the one thing he's probably going to put up huge numbers because he's not going to have older dudes that have a higher status in the league that go, I'm sick of passing it to you. So he's probably going to get more touches. We'll probably see like early Aiten numbers and like twenty to ten for the first six weeks of the season. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Like he'll he'll he'll put up some big numbers there. But, you know, defensively, it's really about his competitiveness because there were times I think going back two years ago when we were thinking about him with that run of the Suns, the finals, you're like, look at this guy. Like he can switch out on the smaller players. You can rotate. But it's all about the way he's wired. And I think long term, unfortunately, like we already kind of know the answer there. Like I don't think all of a sudden now you start playing with some fierceness after being in the league this long. So he was the fifth option on that team and there seemed to be real resentment toward him in that whole Phoenix culture of like, why doesn't he just realize we don't need his offense? We need him to basically rebound and block shots and crash the offensive boards. I think his attitude was probably twenty five years old. I want to be the best player I can be. I already went to a finals. I don't that's not I think I could do more than that. So I don't I don't think anyone was necessarily wrong. As I said, on my Thursday pot, I just hated the trade for Phoenix. I just thought they got the poopoo platter back. You know, they got some some some spare ribs back and a couple of egg rolls and and that's it. But they did not get an entree back. And I think he's an entree on the right team, whether he's a guy that made sense for them. I don't know. But I know that they didn't get a good haul for him. I think Rob, for his contract, for what his talents are, is a really intriguing piece for them or for another team, because you could trade for him. And it's not like a daunting salary. Right. I think he's in what is what is it, like 15 a year or something like that? No, it's a really good. Yeah. I mean, it was a really low cost extension and he's still a pretty young guy. Yes, so.
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"All right. So we're taping part one here. It is a little past four o'clock Pacific time. Just watch the Pats completely shit the bed. We're not going to talk about that. That'll be part two. Part one. Ryan Rosillo is here. We're talking Drew holiday, the big trade. How is the NBA different for you right now? And are we done? Do we finally have the 30 rosters? Is this what we're looking at? Do we know who's going to be on everybody's team, or are we somehow not done? I never think we're done anymore in the NBA. And I know you're being a gracious host here. But you and I talked for five minutes today. I think you have the headline take on this, OK? I think you have the headline take on what the top of the league looks like. Are you ready to share it this early? I think Boston has the best top six. I did not feel that way 24 hours ago. I did not feel like there was a clear best. I trust this team in crunch time. And if Porzingis stays healthy, which is a huge if, I think they have the best six and they can fill around. And they have the most ways that they can play whoever in the series. So from that vantage point, you had to do the trade. And they gave up a center who has been hurt every single year. And I don't fully trust that he's ever going to be out there when it matters. Brogdon, who was hurt, who was mad at the team and two picks. And you get Drew Holliday, who was a 2021 finals hero, who's one of the best defensive guards in the league, who's still really good and just raises their ceiling. Now you can go white Holliday, Tatum Brown and a center at crunch time and you're good. You can switch on almost everything, especially if you get anything from Horford. So were you similarly enthused? Yeah, I love Drew. You know, there's some stuff with his shooting in the playoffs where it's been pretty bad or you're like, is that just because he can't make shots at the playoffs or is it just what happened statistically? I mean, it does happen. I mean, if I'm getting the negative parts out of the way, like, yeah, sure, he's a little bit older. The big situation is a huge question mark. I can't believe what they got from Horford last year. So I don't know if you can just pencil that in because he was way beyond expectations, at least for me or for what I had for him. But when you can add Drew for those pieces and I'm with you, like when when Rob Williams is right, it's really, really nice. But you can even tell when he's out there. You're like, is something wrong with him again? You know, the number of times that I've watched Rob Williams in Celtics games, I'm like, I know he's out there, but wait something. And every time I thought Marcus Smart was trying to get in his career with some of those alley-oop passes, like, depending on how he lands, like, how is this going to be the last one we ever see from him? So to me, by the way, by the way, that Rob put my dad texted me after the trade is like, I hate giving up Rob. I'm like, you complained about Rob more than anybody I know in my life. You would text me from the games going up Rob's just off and Rob just walked in the tunnel again. I don't know what happened. I just like Brian Barrett had a tweet, 32 games, 29 games, 52 games, 61 games, 35 games. Those are Rob Williams' last five years. It just wasn't reliable enough for a team that's trying to win a title. I interrupted you. No, you didn't, because it's a it's a really good point, because what's going to happen? I mean, you know, it's just there's there's definitely like if Prozingis is hurt, it feels like the whole thing is screwed up and there's a really good chance that that could happen. But if you're talking about like the allocation of minutes and the talent that's getting those minutes, well, the talent that's getting those minutes just went up with Drew Holiday. And that's, I think, the simplest way to look at it. So they they turn Marcus Smart and Grant Williams and Brogdon and Rob Williams into Drew Holiday and Prozingis, more Derek White minutes, more Peyton Pritchard minutes. And then there's a little bit of an X factor with who's going to be like that ninth man, tenth man, kind of big four slash five person, maybe, yeah, or somebody you trade like that. I feel like that's the easiest position to pick up in January and February. The big thing for me is I think White was ready for a bigger role. I think White and Holiday together is magnificent as a as a backcourt. And I read some stuff today. They think White's going to come off the bench. I don't know if I see that. I think I would come out of the gates with White and Holiday and Tatum and Brown in the center and maybe bring to your Horford point, like maybe bring Horford off the bench and try really try to rest his minutes during the season and be careful with him and make him a bench player. And then the playoffs reassess. But I think that having those four guys all together, they complement each other so well. You can play basically any kind of defense against any perimeter guy in the league, those four guys. And they're just better. I mean, there's there's just no way around it. They're better. He's a much better player than Marcus Smart was last year. And, you know, you've made that point about the shooting. He'd have those games. He'd go five for 22 in a playoff game, you know, but I do feel like he was asked to do a little bit more than maybe what he's supposed to be doing. I don't feel like he's a pure point guard, right? Now you have White who can handle most of the ball handling. He could play off the ball and they're going to get the best version of him. Awesome locker room guy, too, by all accounts. I mean, really like a beloved teammate. Wherever he went, I think they wanted to change the chemistry a little bit. I think this was an unhappier team than maybe they let on to the outside world last year. Yeah, look, I definitely like him more than Smart. And, you know, to be totally fair, when I'm looking at like the Lillard side of this trade last week before we knew the second piece of Drew and upgrading from Drew to Lillard, I'm going, OK, well, now you're top two in Milwaukee's like in the argument for the best two in the NBA. OK, that's that's really what this league has been about. Now, post the teens decade where it was the arms race for your top three, it's you look around the league, you go, OK, who's got the two best? Like, let's come up with the five teams who have the two best. And with Lillard and Giannis, that's like a whole nother level. So when I was looking at it is like Lillard compared to Drew, you know, Drew is not somebody you're expecting to break down a defense off the dribble, right? Oh, we're stuck at the end of the shot clock, like make something happen where Lillard can literally do anything right in the final second of the shot clock and still get you feel like it's still a decent look. So that part of it's a huge upgrade. But he's number three to four as far as an offensive option. He also and I don't know, this is just me talking out loud as I thought about the trade. It's pretty clear that when Boston's offense gets into trouble in the playoffs, like Tatum and Brown haven't figured out a way to kind of unlock it other than just like I can already picture in my head, like I know what the Tatum move is going to be. I already know what the Jaylen Brown move is going to be. I don't know if Smart was able to to make their life easier with the playmaking. Yeah. And then sometimes I even think Smart would go like, well, if you guys are going to screw around, like I might just I might just be green light on this possession. I don't think Drew necessarily plays that way. So, you know, it's probably silly for me to think that like Drew is going to be the Steve Nash type who comes in and sets up all these great late playoff possessions. But there may be something in lessening the burden of those guys feeling that they have to do or defaulting to just forcing the issue as much as they do in the playoffs. I like how much ball handling they have, to your point, because they were talking about experimenting a little bit more with Tatum as a point forward this year, which makes me nervous a little bit just because, you know, he's six foot nine. I'm not I'm not sure that's the best use of him, but they seem pretty adamant, like we feel like he could be a little bit more of a creator. And then you think White can do that. To me, White is the key to this season now, because if, you know, other than the Porzingis-Hell thing, which I almost I'm going to knock on wood, but they part of the reason they made all this movement and they got rid of Brogdon and Smart was I think they really wanted to push White to be the lead ball handler for them and a creator. And there's some unbelievable pick and roll stats with him. And and just if certain people set him a pick in the way, even in the Miami series, he was one of the only guys who could create offense. So I think they have that. Plus, they have Drew. And the reality is for Drew, this is this might be the deepest offensive team he's been on. Right. When you think back to like had some was on some pretty weird Philly teams and some pretty weird New Orleans teams. And even when Milwaukee was at its best, it was really just Giannis, Middleton and Drew. And that was it. This is there's more shooting and playmaking around him than I think we've seen. Maybe it'll be a slight upgrade on the flip side. He doesn't have Giannis, who was the second best player of the century, probably. But I like the spot for him. It seemed like he really wanted to go to a contending team. And I don't really know who they were competing against because for reading through some of the reports, it just seemed like Philly. I don't even know what the trade was for them. Portland wanted at least one piece back, probably two that they could do their keeper package. They wanted picks back. Golden State wasn't even in it. And it didn't seem like OKC ever threw their hat in the ring, which I was shocked by because I felt like OKC was the sleeping giant of this whole thing with Dort and some picks and just say, fuck it. Let's let's see if we can be really good this year. So it seemed like it was down to Boston. The Clippers, they just had more assets. I don't know if Portland keeps Rob. He's on a good contract. They already have Aten. My guess is they're probably spinning him. Does it make sense to have both of those guys? My sense is they're going to try it out, you know, but, you know, the thing with Rob is like, if you think he's an awesome defensive player that's just out there, like he's awesome when he's used a certain way. And once Boston unlocked that two years ago, where they stuck him on a non shooting big and then you could see other teams adapt to it, it's like, well, let's stop giving them an out where Rob can just roam off of this dude that's not a shooting threat. Because I think that, you know, this is just going to turn into like now that he's not here, but I mean, have you listened to us talk about Rob Williams at all the last couple of years? He you know, I don't I don't think he's I know what the defensive metrics are. I know the on off stuff. It's a big reason why I think the analytics models always love Boston. Like sometimes you look at him, be like, hey, I think this team's good. But like these numbers are overwhelming. This is like, yeah, it's it's so far like as if there's this huge gap between Boston and everybody else, which I never really felt. Going back these last two years. But if you're Chauncey Billups and you think like, OK, Rob Williams is just going to go out there and like wreak havoc, it's like, well, he has to be used a certain way. So maybe they feel like that's in defensive support to Aten. And with Aten, you know, I have I'm not quite sure what to expect. Well, this is the one thing he's probably going to put up huge numbers because he's not going to have older dudes that have a higher status in the league that go, I'm sick of passing it to you. So he's probably going to get more touches. We'll probably see like early Aten numbers and like twenty to ten for the first six weeks of the season. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Like he'll he'll he'll put up some big numbers there. But, you know, defensively, it's really about his competitiveness because there were times, I think, going back two years ago when we were thinking about him with that run of the sons of the finals. You're like, look at this guy. Like he can switch out on the smaller players. You can rotate. But it's all about the way he's wired. And I think long term, unfortunately, like we already kind of know the answer there. Like, I don't think all of a sudden now you start playing with some fierceness after being in the league this long. So he was the fifth option on that team. And there seemed to be real resentment toward him in that whole Phoenix culture of like, why doesn't he just realize we don't need his offense? We need him to basically rebound and block shots and crash the offensive boards. I think his attitude was probably twenty five years old. I want to be the best player I can be. I already went to a finals. I don't that's not I think I could do more than that. So I don't I don't think anyone was necessarily wrong. As I said, on my Thursday pot, I just hated the trade for Phoenix. I just thought they got the poopoo platter back. You know, they got some some some spare ribs back and a couple of egg rolls and and that's it. But they did not get an entree back. And I think he's an entree on the right team, whether he's a guy that made sense for them. I don't know. But I know that they didn't get a good haul for him. I think Rob, for his contract, for what his talents are, is a really intriguing piece for them or for another team, because you could trade for him. And it's not like a daunting salary. Right. I think he's what is what is he like 15 a year or something like that? No, it's a really good. Yeah. I mean, it was a really low cost extension. And he's still a pretty young guy.
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"philly teams" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"I'm with you on Carr. And I remember texting you a few times during the season, having the Raiders in like a parlay or something. It just, to me, I don't know if he's shot, but it seemed like he was shot for that team. I think with the Saints, because they have some good weapons, they're indoors. They have a better offensive line than I think Vegas had last year. Change of scenery. Maybe he spent the off season, like, you know, doing in Rocky IV in Siberia, trying to do in the pull-ups. I don't know, but I'm not counting him out yet. Like Matt Ryan with the Colts, I was like, I'm out. The Matt Ryan's done, there's no way. I don't know if Carr's done, but it felt like he was done in Vegas. I agree with you on that. So I'll talk about Washington in a second. Washington was the team that jumped out with the odds. Indy at plus three 50 because of the division, right? Like eight and nine might win that division for all we know. Jacksonville's defense, not impressed by it. Tennessee, who knows? And the quarterback, I don't think he's going to be accurate, right? There's going to be some growing pains, but he's such a physical specimen. They have such, Steichen I thought was incredible for the Eagles last year. There's a world where they, I don't know, they just like use him like this shiny toy and they figure it out and they're just kind of hard to play. They have a really, really, really easy schedule. So I'm not ruling them out, but what did you see from Richardson, anything? Well, I think I saw a Josh Allen type player. But the difference between he and Josh Allen is he's coming into an offense that fits Josh Allen. Josh Allen, it was a work in, what offense are we going to run here? How are we going to play Josh? It wasn't until the year three that they really nailed that down. And so this kid, I thought he had really good poise this summer and he's going to be inaccurate. His percentage of missing receivers is going to be high. The concern you have, I don't think they have great skill. Who are you worried about? Alex Pierce, you worried about Michael Pittman? Like they don't have that receiver. And if they trade Taylor, who's the back? Like, what are they doing there? I think the skill around them, where Philly, remember now, just remember that Jalen Hurts, they're nine and eight. They go to Tampa and they get whacked, right? And I mean, they had that losing streak once they got to the six-back offense, but really the difference between the Philly team in 21 to 22 was the skill level. You bring A.J. Brown and you put them on there with Waddle, and now you got Dallas Goddard, you got great receivers. You got one of the best tight ends in football, a really good offensive line. All of a sudden, Hurts, who ran the ball, average per carry, less last year than he did in 21, they're a better offense. So they don't have that skill around them. I could see them be at eight and nine, nine and eight, because you're right, they don't have a hard schedule. I worry about how good they are on defense. I mean, they're not, I mean, the Philadelphia offense in the last preseason game had their backups, and I mean, their real backups in there. And the Colts struggled to stop their offense in that first drive. I'm with you on, I don't overreact to preseason, and I don't really watch that much of it, but I do love monitoring the dialogue behind it. I think certain things jump out. If somebody like O'Connell, the kid on the Raiders, which just everybody's like, this kid's good. Like just point blank, watch the games, watch the tape. You hear the teammates talking about him, and everyone's just like, this kid's got it, he's good. So that jumps out. And then the flip side, Carolina just seems like a disaster. Like they don't seem like they're going to be able to block. They're putting this rookie quarterback behind this line that can't protect him. He's got, I would say the worst weapons in the league. If you're going, his running back receiver, tight end, skill group, I would say is probably 32nd, and they're not going to be able to block. So I look at that, that was a team I was like, oh, NFC South, I don't know, any one of those three. And I've like crossed them off just from the preseason. Well, I mean, they were good, last year they could run the ball. They ran for 350 yards against the Detroit Lions who are going to go to the soup bowl this year. Yeah, I forgot, yeah, I forgot the Lions are in. They just destroyed the Lions. I mean, they ran up and down the field on him, but you know, the Frank Wright factor, you know, I mean, right when he took over in Indianapolis, he had some of Josh McDaniel's staff and then he fired the line coach and then that line got worse in India every year after that. I don't know, I'm with like James Campin's a good line coach, he proved it last year, but so far the quarterback's getting hit way too much. The left tackle, their first round pick from North Carolina State, he's not playing well. And they're right, the skilled players are not, and I don't think Frank's one of those guys who's got a legitimate guru card as an offensive coordinator. I never saw the guru card. I thought Frank was in the hall of fame. That was the memo I got the other day. It's an amazing job he did with the Colts where they had a new quarterback every year that he brought in and then apologized for in December. Yeah, and he's the guru in all the off season stuff, you know, it's like getting a guru card. There's no guru in that guru. I don't, I'm with you. I want to love the Panthers because I think they're a good team. Well, because we liked them last year, they really came on, but you know, they also lost Foreman who I thought was huge for them and they lose DJ Moore too. Right, and they, you know, I mean, DJ Moore keeps his helmet on, they're going to beat Atlanta and they're in the playoffs. I mean, they beat, they beat New Orleans in one of the ugliest games of the year, 10 to seven with no offense. I mean, they're good on defense. They're not elite, but they're good. I think that owner, you know, look, he fires Wilks. He doesn't hire Wilks who did a really good job and deserved to be the head coach and put Reich in there. Reich's under a lot of pressure to play that. He's got to, I mean, like how did, you got that job because you're supposed to be this offensive mastermind and where is the mastermind coming from? I think Wilks lost his job the week after they blew that Tampa game, which they're 21 nothing. Tampa, which was a carcass, they suddenly, all of a sudden they can't cover Mike Evans for three quarters Tampa beats them and goes to round one and gets completely annihilated. And I think that probably made them go, oh wow, we're way further away than we thought, but they should have beaten Tampa. Quickly on Washington, their schedule is a nightmare. I mean, these are just the tough games they have starting in week two at Denver, home Buffalo, at Philly, at Atlanta, at the Giants, home Philly, at New England, at Seattle, at Dallas, at the Jets, home San Francisco, home Dallas. So that's, those are 12 games that they're not going to be favored in. And that's ultimately what's holding me back with them. And Rivera, Rivera's another one. What is the evidence that Rivera's a good coach? Always had four playoff seasons and three winning seasons. And you'll never hear those two things go in a sentence together. Four playoff seasons, but only three winning seasons. I mean, so it's really somewhat remarkable. I mean, look, they got a really good defensive team. Their front's good. This Emmanuel Forbes kid can intercept passes. I mean, if they could create, they were one of the worst teams creating turnovers in the league. So I think they can pressure you. They're good on third down. They're good in the red zone. I'm with you. The only drawback for me is if they brought Parcells from Jupiter and let him coach Washington, I would be all in on it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"philly teams" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"They're just running that pick and roll on the left side of the floor, getting a bead wide open opportunities, you know, him getting touches for a pull up at the elbow or a drive from the elbow. Or he can make passes out of that area. They've just been absolutely outstanding at Hardin is, I mean, he was not good in games two and three after a sensational game one, then game four, but he is really found himself in this series right now. And I feel like with him, I looked at his numbers after the game, he's averaging three mid range shots per game in this series which is double what he did during the season. In past years, he didn't take any, so it's triple, you know, what he did in past years. It's nice to see harden utilizing that mid range to make himself a threat with those little pull ups, you know, more floaters. I feel like Hardin is redefined himself in different ways throughout the season first. It's a pass first guy. And now you're seeing him do that by bringing back the mid range like he did in the early days at Oklahoma City. And he's hitting the game winning three pointer in the corner. He's doing stuff that he hasn't done in the past with the catch and shoot, the pull ups. It's just cool to see a guy redefine himself at the stage of his career. I had kind of given up on this Philly team as the title contender, but you think the game hard and playing a game for and then the game and beat played in game 5. Those guys are on the same team. And you know, they have enough with the role players that I think they can get by. But they played house today. I was wondering where I forgot he was on their team. He was good. And he gave them some energy, but they can patch if they're going to play the big two big minutes and they can keep Harris out of foul trouble. Tucker is what he is. They put Tucker on, it seemed like on Jalen. I don't know what the stats are game in the game, but it seemed like he was on Jalen more than usual. Really trying to, you know, Jalen can't dribble. He's the best player in the league. And Tucker was
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"Then once they got hot and found their form, they already had that starting point to build on. That's what Cincinnati feels like. We already saw the team last year that puts up four goals again. Yeah. All those pieces are still here. So the expectation is it will happen for you to be sitting in first place before that. To .5 points per game. That's real good. Let me ask you this, Dave. Are you worried about the union at all? If they somehow, when I somehow, it would not be that surprising. If Atlas wins and moves on in the union are out of CCL and they're below the playoff line in tenth right now in the east, would you be worried at all about the union? I would need three more games before I would start to worry. Then it would be like the revs last year. Because the revs crashed out pretty famously in CCL. And okay, look, all right, CCL is tough. They'll come back. They'll get it together, and they never got it together. And they never became a big differences. It felt like the revs part of what the underlying numbers weren't there the year before for them. So then that came crashing down. It's pretty much there for Philly. They're younger, Philly. And revs, and they don't have the injuries. Because that was the other thing. They didn't have the interest, but the union were really healthy last year. For sure. But they've gotten, they got lucky last year, and instead of sitting on that, they went out and brought more depth in. They basically acknowledged themselves internally. We're not going to get that lucky again. So I don't worry about this Philly team. Will they win supporter shield? No, I don't think they ever were going to because of CCL. But I have zero doubt that they will be an MLS cup favorite at least cup favorite, all that stuff as we go across the year.
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"philly teams" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"The fourth quarter? Yes, that's a concern. I mean, you know, and he might not play at all, which I believe would void the bet. There's always risk, but I think there's upside. I mean, if he scores 40 points, you're feeling good. And he's been scoring, so I think he's still leading the league in scoring. Either him or Luca, they've been back and forth a bit. But, you know, looking at and also it's just fun to have a rooting interest in that. Like some of the some of the cross sport ones are very random even for me. So I like to tie in betting on the two Philly teams. But yeah, you know, Jimmy, I'm worried about everything. I'm always worried. But this one is minus one ten, so it's a little throwaway. It's a fun way to have action on two games. That's the life of a better. There you go. My last one, you know, Mitch said it earlier, you want to have some sort of long shot odds in there, try to maybe get lucky, make some big money on the long shot. I'm gonna go will there be over time, yes, plus 900. We have not had an overtime game in the postseason. You know, everyone's expecting a close game minds one and a half just seems like if you want to fly air for some value at plus 900, you know, I think we'd all be surprised if the game was a blowout. Mitch said 30 to 26. Maybe we can get 26, 26, go to overtime 29, 26, you want to have your bet. I love plus 900 here. And it just feels like, it feels like we're set up for an overtime game, which we haven't had in the postseason that gets screwed up by the refs. That would be the way to end the season, I think. Yeah, for a little bit. The new overtime rules, there was so much attention on them, and we haven't seen it yet this season. We have not seen them yet. So that would be my last one for you there over time plus 900. Just as a value play. part of the reason I like the offense is just putting together a lot of sustained drives. And I do like the over, even though sustained drives tend to be bad for the over. But I think the NFL put Carl cheffers on this game to maybe kind of diffuse the, you know, we talk about it all the time. You get to the postseason. These are when the casual fans kind of tune in and you don't want a penalty filled slog, I think they're putting chapters on this game because his crew through the most flags this year edit shepherd is also a and last year, two years in a row. Yeah, so but I think it's staying in their pocket. I think this is going to be a very flag free game. And then on top of that, they can say like, well, are you people complaining about the fact that the chiefs hold on in every single offensive snap? We put shepherd on the game. No flat. And I think he's also called, I think he's also because I wrote a column about this last week. He's also called, I think the most or the second most PIs of any ref this year. And you have here offices that like to throw the ball so that could come into play. All right, all right. But I also went to the cross sports thing and I tried to pick out the stupidest one. That's stupid, just absurd. But yeah, I'm going Travis Kelce. Can I digress and just focus? Yeah. Not stupid, just absurd. Yes. Can I get a breakdown in a difference? Stupid is like this is, this is a terrible idea that should never have seen the light of day. Absurd is more, okay, this is ridiculous that this is available, but why not tune into Niagara iona Matt pack basketball. And see how it goes. So I'm going Travis Kelce -5 and a half against iona total points up in Niagara in this matchup here. The gales shooting 25.4% from three over their 7 true road games this season. Quinn still out out for the season now. You probably know him better as the muskrat as he's known around New Rochelle. I think we all know why. And I know some of you are looking at Ken pom and you're saying, but ionas a top 100 adjusted tempo team, lots of possessions of this game, but Niagara, bottom ten in the country, as far as pace, we're in the slowest paced teams in the nation. I think Niagara controls the tempo, Rick Pitino's guys shoot poorly. I don't think I own a break 60 in this game. So this wine is kind of stunning to me here. Easy one for Travis Kelce. This is perfect and I just shall be you have to clip that and if Gary wins the bet we just need to send that out all over social. I love the amount of the amount of research you did for that one Gary. Thank you. Did I spend 80% of my time researching the show on the iona gales? We now know the reason this sounds like it was pushed back from noon to 1230. Recently, a new client called me and started by saying mister Morgan, I really need your help, but I'm just a nobody. 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I don't necessarily think the eagles staff can't match that, but we just haven't seen it at this point. So I think it would be a coin flip game if we were in October, but I think I'll give an ever so slight edge to Kansas City right here. Like I said, mahomes is my pick for MVP if I was going elsewhere. I take Chris Jones. I think at 80 to one, he is the one guy that if a non quarterback is going to take over this game, I think it would be him. But yeah, that's where I am here.
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"philly teams" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"The Bengals. Ben solex still has a chance to talk me out of it the next time. But I'm really leaning hard. You go either way, I'm not going to doubt you on this one. This is all I'm saying is the most nervous I've ever been in a game. Eagles diners, that line is stayed at minus two and a half, talk about a bloodbath this game. So Sal and I talked on Sunday, we had niners Bengals to win the Super Bowl. And I was all excited. I thought this was a really natural tease. Take the Bengals back, take the niners back. And it's still might be. Looked at it, looked at it, looked at it, looked at it, looked at it some more, I looked at it some more. And I kept coming back to the Brock purdy thing, who's been great to us. It's been great to us. Broad period has been awesome. It was great. Me and Sal, the first night when he won, we were like, hey, this is like a legit this might something might be here. This guy was good. Bet on him over and over again. He's come through. This is a different animal this game. You look at his 8 games. Comes in in the Miami game, they win 33 17. Beats Tampa 35 7. In Seattle, terrible defense. They went 21 13. Tough environment though, Thursday night. Tough environment. Environment. That's what Kyle Shanahan's pinning himself to. That Thursday night game saying, hey, you went into Seattle in a must win for them, and we kicked their ass. That's what he's telling them this week. Okay. 21 13 home against Washington. 37 34 at Vegas, another bad defense. Shoot out with Stidham. 38, 13 Arizona. Then we go to the playoffs, 41, 20 three at home, Seattle. 19 and 12, 19 to 12 beat styles at home. So 6 out of 8 home games. His only two road games at Seattle, bad defense at Vegas, bad defense. Now he's playing this Philly team, shilka Patti, texted me that Philly their saccharide this year is 11.4%, which is like the highest in 20 years. They have the third most crowd. Third most sacks ever for an NFL team. Crazy crowd. Crazy. A little bit of an attitude. And then a secondary that just completely annihilated the giants last week. I mean, I don't even know how you evaluate Daniel Jones and they hid nobody open in that game. I'm still buying Dana. I wouldn't spend 30 million a year on Danny times, but if I could get him for 20, I'm taking him. It makes me really nervous to take part in this. The line is never wavered. You can have Philly less than a field goal, the team has kicked everybody's ass. They've kicked the giants last week. They have a defense. This is a rookie QB. He was a 7th round pick. He's never been in a game like this in his life. No. In his life, and I just, I don't know if I can get there. What are you thinking? Here's what I'm thinking. I was really on the Giants last week and I ate shit for it all week. Me too. I was I was skeptical of what version of Jalen hurts and lane Johnson. We were getting. Me too. And we discussed it. Those guys came out there, and they were fucking awesome. And Jalen hurts was taking hits, and he was okay. And lane Johnson was throwing dudes. And look, I talk about these games for three hours every day, and I've gone back and watched that giants game. It is maybe as one sided a game we've seen. That game could have been 52 to 7 the way it went. And they ran for 280 yards. The niners, meanwhile, just grinded that game out against Dallas. Don't take anything away from them. That was an awesome win. They found a way to win. But they haven't been on the east coast in a 105 days. They're coming to this Philly environment. This kid has never been rattled this entire season. I think if Philly gets up early and that's a big if. If they can score, you're gonna turn over early. I think this could be Philly and it's just one of those all day parties. Like, it was. Last Saturday night. And like it was the last time the eagles had a big home playoff game, and that was against the Vikings, and that NFC championship game where Minnesota came in red hot off the Minneapolis miracle, and everyone was picking Minnesota in case Keenum and it was like, oh, wait a second. This is an impossible place to play this crowd is crazy and they've got the best offensive line. It's similar to that Minnesota game. It feels like it feels like it feels a little like that. And I think this eagles seems better. It's also the first game. Yep. Traditionally, now this is a totally random fitness say that could probably hear this proven. We usually have the one kind of blowout or pseudo blowout than the one close game. Or we have the awesome day where both games are close. That was last year. Remember, we had bang bang chiefs then right into 90s, the two blowouts. I was like, man, that sucked. There's always at least one good one, and then sometimes two. To me, it's way more likely that the eagles win by 20.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"philly teams" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Them. You could do the Pats plus 700 with for their defense to score. With pats when the first half and they win the game. That would be plus 1266. So almost 13 O one odds, pats win, pats control the first half, they get a defensive touchdown. It's pretty fun one. Let's do it. Is that fun with it? Let's go. I'll mark that one down. So Philly, and I can't tell you how many times India is kicked us in the balls this year. A $1 million pick. Kansas City game. Raider game. Ryan's terrible, right? He's like, they bench him. Nobody tries to trade him. And yet he has four game winning drives. They announced that he's the quarterback after we did $1 million picks. I'm like, oh, you knew? Oh my God. Why? But anyway, I was on set on good morning football when Joe Thomas blew a fuse over the Jeff Saturday hire and then I see cower on Sunday near tears calling it a disgrace and I'm like, once I saw that and I heard Joe Thomas who I really like and I was like, oh, there's no chance they're losing this game. The second you get this like indignant, that's when they go and of course Andy's gonna win that game. In Vegas defensively, they're in the running for worst defense. So they couldn't they had no pass rush at all. They couldn't stop. This Philly team coming off a loss, which I think is actually we didn't talk about this yet. I think it's great for them. Great for them that they lost camp. Get rid of the undefeated stuff. Just worry about winning your vision. Don't worry about the shit. And they also lost the dumbest game possible. Those teams could play ten times, and I think Washington beat some Woods. So it happened the way it happened. And now they go to Indy. They have so much more talent than Indy. People go, well, they're going to run the ball with Jonathan Taylor. It's like, no, they're not. The eagles are fine. They're indoors. That their team that's, I would say a better indoor team than like an outdoor team. And right now the line is 6 and a half, and they're just dying to be teased. Just dying. Okay. We've had trouble with teasers of parleys this year, but we have goddamn we're putting them in a tease. Okay. All right, so the Saturday thing, he's want to know, obviously. I did the work. I was looking like, what's the case? So in term head coaches who have won their first game, gonna combined 11 and 19 in that second game. So they always take this giant dip. I don't think Saturday goes to an O but. Do you want to bet against them? It's kind of a fun story, dude. I actually do want to bet it gets them. Come on. The colts stop it. Check runners now out. He's playing his own way, but he's gone now. They still have buck under who I think will be able to do some stuff. It does open the door though. Say he wins a couple games, whatever. You know, you cover the NBA so well. And you guys, and you don't flinch when they're like, all right, Steve Kerr's the coach of the warriors, and you don't flinch when it's, you know, Steve Nash is gonna be the coach. Maybe that was a big surprise, but you know what I mean? Yeah. This thing and I talked to all the code that you would think they spit in their mother's eye when it was announced. The amount of outrage. I don't think it was fake outrage from coaches around the league who felt so violated and so just disrespected. I've moved my family. I got the text from guy. I moved my family 7 times in 9 years so I could see Jeff Saturday get an opportunity before me. The amount of people that would be Goldberg taking over and Eddie when she became the Knicks coach, that kind of like this is a circus. I thought that way too. I didn't really see it the connective tissue with them with that he was actually kind of consulting. And they grade in their offensive line. It was like he was finding out who the players were. He gave a good speech. They played a bad team. And it was a great story. But now they're playing the eagles. And if this line, a week ago, it would have been eagles by 12. Come on. You know what? Who's the man? Who's the player that's going to, which player do you think would be? They could NFL coach. I'm watching JJ watt and hard knocks and everyone rolls their eyes about JJ. And how he's always looking at the camera. I'm like, he's got a lot of that to him though. Like a head coach, like we could do this type of thing. I've watched JJ watt and I'm like, would some of these teams be any worse off with JJ watt leading the locker room than, you know, I don't know. That's where my head went. But yes, if you want to go eagles, syriani was the old coordinator there for three years. He knows that team inside and out. He goes back there like it helps an edge. I could go eagles with you. It was also like, I like that. He said they played like shit. Yeah. You knew it. Yeah, he was like, we sucked. Let's move on to the next one. This is a good, really good eagles team. And they got in damaging suit today. I saw that. Another good player. So I was thinking about teams to tease with them. And I landed on the nobody believes in us, Minnesota Vikings. Who are home. Getting a point and a half against Dallas. I don't understand the line at all. I thought when Sal and I had to guess the lines on Sunday, I thought it was a joke.
Boston Sports Beat
"philly teams" Discussed on Boston Sports Beat
"Hurt your value of getting to where you want to be. Right. Bottom line is Ben Simmons has to get out there and ball out. He has to show other teams that he is worth trading for. He has to give them a reason to give up assets to make a deal for him because there are a lot more questions around him. On a trademark, then there were for James Harden. Yeah, he was selling low on himself. You can't do that. The last the last thing anybody knows about you if you're Ben Simmons is you threw a fit because you because you're, you know, they said mean things about you. Mean things that were true and that are true, mainly because you're refuse your stubbornness or your ego prevents you from evolving your game and doing the couple of things necessary to make you a legit star and you just won't do it and not only that you're going backwards on it. So and so people could accept Ben Simmons doesn't shoot threes, but Ben Simmons doesn't shoot layups. This isn't a guy that anybody wants. So I think this is where he was and he had really no outs left at this point. However, if you're the Celtics, this isn't great because this Philly team, I don't care if they're not happy. This Philly team wiped the floor with you last year. And so, yes, Simmons is flawed, but Simmons does a lot of things very well, including makes life miserable for Jayson Tatum. He's an incredible defensive player. They play with pace. They have size. This was the Celtics did not match up well against his team. And now if you were looking at where the Celtics land in the east, I'm putting them below Philly. A lot of people would be like, oh, Philly's a mess they're above them. I can't see that anymore. No, I mean, I think before all the drama Philly was a slightly ahead of Boston. I think right now, I think they're about even. I would give Philly a little bit of an edge only because of Joel embiid who I think has figured out how to be dominant player, without necessarily being bringing the team down in that process. But Ben, my one concern with Philly is whether Ben's return, whether Ben is going to be a little more selfish about his play, like try to answer a lot of the questions about his game, which may take away from the team chemistry and the team dynamics. But help him in the process. Is he going to be able to be a seamless member of the crew, help them win games and do it in a way that doesn't take away from what others do..
WTOP
"philly teams" Discussed on WTOP
"11 51, California voters will decide tomorrow if Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom should keep his job. The recall vote has brought out big name Democrats to rally voters in the state President Biden spoke on nuisance behalf in Southern California. More from CBS reporter Adam Brewster Paul from Cal Berkeley last week showed that just 1.4% of likely voters were still undecided on that question now. You never know what can happen within the final stretch. That's certainly why you've seen Gavin Newsom and other Democrats going around the state spending ads taking this effort very seriously, despite the fact that polls have been trending in their favorite conservative talk radio host Larry Elder is the Republican front runner, But polls show Newsome leading the recall race. Meantime, Florida Republican governor run to Santa's has threatened local governments with $5000 finds per violation for requiring their employees to get vaccinated against Covid. That has overrun hospitals across the state. The Santa says local municipalities potentially face millions of dollars in fines for implementing a requirement that their employees get the vaccine. Gainesville in Orange County managers say that they are still going ahead with their vaccine requirements. Florida has been a national epicenter for the virus has spread this summer with covid deaths, their accounting for more than 20%. Of the virus related deaths across the nation. Last week, a federal judge ordering the state of Iowa to immediately stop enforcement of the law passed back in May. This means school boards there can order that masks be warned to help prevent the spread of covid. Judge Robert Pratt says the law substantially increases the risk of several kids with health conditions of contracting the virus. Pratt said he has looked at data on the effectiveness of master reduce the spread of the virus and agrees with recommendations from the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics on Mask wearing in school. Well, if your parents with a college age kid, this one is for you, U S news and World Report out with its annual ranking of the best colleges in the country, Princeton gets the top spot in In our region. Johns Hopkins comes highest number nine Georgetown is next at 23. University of Maryland at 59. Anita Noronha, managing editor at U. S News, says this list measures academic excellence use the rankings that just as a starting point, you know, don't get fixated on just saying I could only go to a top 20 school, she says. They also have lists that consider other factors like diversity and cost. Sheena stolen. W T O P NEWS Coming up in MONEY news. Disney decides against premiering new films in both theaters and online. It's The same time 11 53. This back to school Update is presented by the extradition temporal scanner in Philadelphia. A group of teenagers are working to educate their classmates about the vaccine. Here's Philly team Vaccine.
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"That's a hard I mean, that is right. It's like hitting 400. If you have the absolute minimum number of at bats to qualified his account, Yes. Is there an asterisk? I guess that's up to you. I still think it's an amazing accomplishment. Then Kevin Durant's the best of those three guys. Think Milwaukee's the better team. For me. I think it's the thing is filly is the best team in the Eastern Conference. But like hard pause here. Doc Rivers has not been a successful coach in the playoffs relative to his opportunities the talent and leads his team have built. That is a fact. It doesn't mean it carries over, but it may mean that we're going to see I just worry about the offense of firepower of that Philly team, Daryl Morey. And we don't actually vote for executive the year that's executives. But we're also doing balance at CBS sports dot com Just to sort of put out some content, right? Daryl Morey would be my vote. Over Sean Marks and some of the other folks throughout their butt and adding three point shooting, bringing in guys who can who can space the floor. But that's the same thing that Milwaukee's had the past right. We need guys had three of those guys aren't stars that doesn't always translate, it often doesn't translate to success. I'm a little filly, Scott. I'm skeptical of every team really in the Eastern Conference. Me all of them. And then next Atlanta's gonna be and I might I'm Probably gonna go to New York City just to be able to be around that Syria's Internet series. CBS Sports Age Sheetal. Do the show from New York. I don't know who's gonna win that series. Probably gonna take Atlanta. But neither surprised me and I'd like to do the cop out and say it'll be in seven games. Whenever you see MBA writers do seven games. It's code for. I don't know which is OK. You don't you don't always have the answer. I think what's really interesting is the Started lead startlingly different styles. Mainland is gonna shoot a ton of threes. Entree Young be his is marvelous self and create space for himself. Without stifling next events. Is that Atlanta offense better than that Next defense. Next defense is amazing is not the best defense in the MBA, but there's a toughness that goes with it right. Atlanta can be a little soft, Be honest, they could be soft. That now under McMillan has been better. For a young hasn't really experienced any kind of real NBA games that matter, but neither have most the guys on the Knicks outside of Derrick Rose. That's a hell of a serious I think it's Atlanta. I know most people in New York City. Think is obviously the Knicks and I think it's passing how much people in New York were just missing a land like that? Well, that's already happened. How are we going to do in the next round? Mask. We have great NBA blouse. You could have three upsets or four upsets. You have all these teams, the Clippers, the Nets Billy Milwaukee with histories of choking of not being able to do it. Anyway. All right, this NBA ballot I got.
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"To beat them. The nats we'll see we'll we'll hey let me tell you something. We'll see if the nets get to the finals. We'll see if kevin durant plays. We'll see how good those like i said goes back to this anytime. You have a big three. The number three guy always has to take big sacrifices. Chris bosh how to do that in miami. Kevin love how to do that in cleveland. Kyrie irving up to doing that with brooklyn. I don't know that remains to be seen but Yeah the lakers are awful. They're you know how they're going to win. Games obviously without lebron anthony davis because they're the best one two punch in the league and for lebron to go down the other day i mean. Yeah i know it had a groin injury. A couple of years ago that christmas day thing but basically the guy's been indestructible for eighteen years. So when he got clipped by solomon hill and by the way that was not a dirty players going loose ball just happened to be one of the rare times in his life in the wrong place at the wrong time. On court yeah. He suffered a bad acco spring. So we'll see how his recuperative powers are but you're absolutely right until he comes back and they got the that's the other thing my my running line. The last few weeks has been who's gonna make it to the court back to the court. I anthony davis or kevin durant like those guys like. What kind of injuries do you have. You're gonna see your did you amputation and come back with a prosthetic. so you know. We'll see about it. Not the toughest guy in the world. Obviously city james. Wait when the lakers get lebron james. Everything changes mitch. Have you ever seen a guy honestly in your life with a strained hamstring. Miss the entire season like durant is this guy's body not breaking down before our very eyes. Like i know torn achilles and everything i know. He scored thirty game when he plays. He plays five games all season. Did you you know when he got hurt against golden state. I was watching that whole game from pillar to post. Because i had to do post game show and that was a game for our series. Nba at night and later. When they said he was hurt with the calf. I was like. I don't remember seeing that. Were hamstring whatever he had but maybe his breaking down. You never know but it it is ridiculous. You know. The james harden's played more games as a net than kevin durant right. I mean that's the way i mean. We'll see we'll see if we'll see what kevin durant does and how kind of. Yeah when he played earlier in the year he looked like he was the mvp. And that didn't last too long so playing as making about forty million dollars this year. Good for him. I mean honestly because when he played he was dropping thirty a game and he was incredible but he was on. He is unstoppable. But do you believe for one minute that a guy that misses the whole season and you know they have you hear this all the time. We're just saving him for the play offs. Do you ever believe that. Bs that some guy can swap on the floor and then start playing every night every other night in a seven game series and that he can stay healthy for more than three games a guy that he's injured every time he touches the court and now all of a sudden he's going stay healthy and place. I'm not buying it. I think he shot he shot. Well i don't know if he's he's always injured. Okay okay well. You might have a point. We'll see it might vary out. I'm not gonna go go to those lanes yet but it certainly is very suspicious. That he's been out this long With a quote unquote whatever. Mild hamstring strain. Whatever whatever the injury was. I've i've already forgot because it's like not even worth paying you know keeping track of because you just know the guy's never gonna play. I'll be stunned when they say. Hey by the way tonight. We're going to have kevin durant. He's gonna play a really. What's the problem i thought he was. You know it's one of those deals. So yeah i mean it's a shame. Shame because look is one of the top. I've always viewed him as a top ten ofensive player in the history of the sport. Because you've basically got an unblock qabail shot and he's got a great game and he's you know he's a two time finals. Mvp but if he doesn't take the court for you really what are we talking about here. Now we're talking about a guy who like say he can't stay healthy and maybe his body is breaking down. I mean that's a possibility but man that would be that'd be rough for the net staff to endure that an. I love his game. There's everything said is dead on. He's incredible it's unstoppable. He likes everyone up. You can't you can't do anything. But suffer at his mercy. You're at his whim because the guy just owns everyone. There's no one that can touch him. But if you never play never on the floor you're worthless. I mean it's just that simple. Now let me ask you this question before. I don't want to spend a little time talking about him or them. Gee thanks doc. Rivers is coaching like he did in boston with the celtics when he won the title in philly as opposed to the way he coached and i thought did nothing in los angeles. That's well. That's what paul george set to right. After they blew that three one lead. He blamed it on. Doc rivers which i thought was a load because paul paul george and kawhi leonard had more to do with them. Losing that series. When they're up three two one to me but anyway all he's done it. Listen he's done a great job in philadelphia. You know I haven't thought about it in terms of the boston thing. He had a team in boston. And it's philly team got to remember that too. You know garnett you know that time. Garnett is the whole key there because before he got there. What kind of winning. To paul pierce to you. Know kinda winning. You got to a conference finals now. And then what once twice. Maybe garnett came in glued to that team the heart and soul and he gave you i mean just stellar play. And you know ray allen and rondo so yeah. He had a better team than this philly team but philly team. I think they have a lot of great components that fit. You know the problem for doctors that his best player is unreliable. He can't stay on the court. Joel embiid and that's his. That's his track record too. I mean as much as you want to talk about. Kevin durant well impedes even riskier proposition than kevin durant. Joel embiid is always going down with some sort of problem. So you know the problem for them and this goes back to chasing down. Kyle lowry somebody. What are they gonna do when get in a tight situation late in a playoff game. They going to. Who's going to get them a shot lane of sock right. Trust anybody on that team. I don't think doc rivers can coach coach that into anybody at this point jake milton. We'll see if they make any move. Hey let me ask you this question. draymond green said. He's the greatest ever and i was just thinking. I was thinking today of all the great players that i remember that that you know in my fifty five years on this earth that i've thought were great defenders in the league's history and there is i'm not putting him as the greatest defender ever in the nba. I'm sorry i'm not even close like you may may think i'm crazy but like because i i believe lajon was better and i could go on and on but a guy that i thought was better than him as a defender and rebounder was dennis rodman. I really do. I thought he was. Nastier meaner better defender absolutely own the glass on both ends of the floor like no one i've ever seen before my life. I put dennis rodman in the hall of fame for his defense and is rebounding and just that and he won all the reins and whatever. But i thought he was as a defender. People think he's nuts but he was a great basketball player. Defensively and i just do not put draymond. Green is the greatest.
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"Actually they changed the name briefly to quakers which you know was kind of funny because there had been other teams called the quakers. In addition to penn there's some Pro teams called the quakers to the the the spas and then the warriors were called briefly. The quakers somebody wanted to change their named phillies. Which would have been kinda stupid. I think since there was already a team called that but yeah they they They had a lot of the good players from the city on it. And you know. I interviewed some of these guys because they were still around and they had they had great stories to tell about those years and Like i say some one. Onto the warriors in played there but you know and just godly was just so so tightly wound into these things and the you know the stars or the philadelphia stars. That was another area that he was really in deep into and Time to be that involved with with the the the negro national league the second version of that And the stars franchise. I'm guessing that had something to do with what you alluded to earlier. Sort of that. Sunday blue law thing because you know a lot of the negro league teams obviously needed to play or we're playing in major league stadiums when they're quote unquote home tenants. Were on the road right so we can dates mattered. In sunday's were half of those dates right well. The philly teams and philadelphia actually has had negro league team since the early nineteen hundreds and a at one point along. The way team called hildale was formed and They were formed in nineteen ten and later We're part of the several leagues actually But we're Very substantial team that played in delaware county near Field was not too far from where i live and they as well as the stars who were formed a couple years after the hildale team folded they would play on mondays and the Philadelphia ballparks whether it was the as part of the phillies pork They would often play a doubleheaders on mondays. Because back then. Monday was a day off for major league. Baseball teams mostly and so the stadiums were open and the owners would run them out and typically The teams The games would would draw good. Chunk fans ten. Fifteen thousand fans would come to their games which they couldn't get any other time because their first of all stadiums weren't large enough and secondly they had they had to play You know during during the week or during a day people were working and so forth so they can play.
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"To four, CBS. That's right. It's the chair sport. Brief show here on CBS Sports Radio. Taking your phone calls James Arness, a Brooklyn net he's hooking up with Carrie Irving and Kevin Durant. I think it will be a disappointment. If they don't win at least one title. I don't think it will come this year. We have the opportunity to be together for two years. If they want. If they want to opt into their player contracts they can stick around together for three years. Barring injury. I think the Nets will win at least one Title. Wanna get back to the phone lines momentarily 855 to 1 to four CBS, but I gotta let you know. About the auto zone in the zone. Player of the week. Okay, It's six is big man. Jo Ellan be he stepped up big for short handed Philly team because last night 1, 37, 1 34 and overtime win against the Heat and B. He poured in 45 points 16 of 23 shooting. He shot a perfect 13 of 13 from the free throw line. He grabbed 16 rebounds and on the season and B, he's averaging 25 points, 11 rebounds and three assists per game. The end zone player of the week was brought to you by auto zone. What makes AutoZone America's number one battery destination because they offer free battery testing and charging and reliable replacement batteries. And they've always got your battery solution you can get in the zone. AutoZone, speaking of the zone. Let's see if Brooklyn can get into that zone and won the title. Let's get back to your thoughts. You can also tweet me at J. R. Sport. Brief. Adam is calling up from Houston. Adam you on CBS Sports radio. What do you think? Hey, Jael, And I appreciate you having me on that. No doubt about it. What do you think about hard in Brooklyn? Whether you bring a lot of locker and a really dark day. Look, I'm a diehard Houston sports fan. Just a process is I've seen every one of our major team lose. Their general manager, head coach and starred in the last 12 months. Hardened. Oh Harden is a big part of the reason why I got into basketball to begin with, like The guy is amazing and has been a Super pleasure Watch for his entire time here uses the Nets. Nets are getting an awesome guy. Man morning he may be due to his tantrums, whatever, but that guy goes all out for everything he can. I think you said it best. Howard. Oh, Westbrook. I mean, what else were they gonna try? Like I did every single combination. He tried a lot of different stuff to be able to bring a ship over here to Houston, and it didn't work out. So I'm not really mad at him for, you know, trying to force a way out. I wish all the best, and I sincerely think that the Nets are gonna end up getting a championship. Okay. All right. Thank you. Adam Appreciate you for calling up and then hit me from Houston. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a different situation. And a lot of what went down in Houston. He should be responsible for He didn't always take accountability for what the hell he was doing because he's like, Listen, I showed up and I poured in points. And you're trying to bring me an all star here and there and it didn't work. And then when he got tired of it, he told him. Hey, get me the hell up on out of here! This is going to be a different situation in Brooklyn. This is not going to be Houston 2.0. It's a lot of personality in the locker room. It's a lot of eagle. There's a lot of stars, but these guys, they're not dumb, like they understand what the hell is going on. And I don't think neither. Any of these guys are are malicious enough where they're just going to go out there and sell. This is all minds. If anything, they may be too tentative. I'm gonna have to figure out what the pecking order is Jimmy's calling up from sexist Jim, you are CBS Sports radio. Uh, good evening. I love your show, Jr. Uh, love how you come about it, Um, I'm gonna tell you best trade ever for Houston. We're glad he's gone. Let's talk about the Nets. The Nets are not going to win the championship. Any time soon because harden and or Kyrie are going to find a way to screw this thing up. And I guarantee you think on win nothing because hardened doesn't even show up in the playoffs and Kyrie Who knows what Carrie's doing. And it's just not gonna work, and Durant can't win it by himself. So that's all I got to say. Have a good evening. Thank you so much for the time I'm out. Thank you Appreciate your gym for calling up from sexist. Those are all legitimate reasons. If you want to take a look at the chemistry who the hell knows what's going on with Gary Irving? We don't know if he'll be back tomorrow. We don't know if you'll be back next week. Well, I guess he's being investigated with all the covert stuff. He won't be back tomorrow probably won't see this guy for at minimum. Another week and a half, probably at the earliest. But When it boils down to the basketball element. Can't look at what James Harden did in the playoffs and say. Well, don't count on him. He did it all. For the past several years. You're not gonna find too many people outside of LeBron James, who probably played more minutes than James Harden. He's been an iron man. James Harden has been on walking team all by himself. And just because he's a walking team doesn't mean that is going to translate over into a championship basketball. James Harden dragged the Rockets to the playoffs year after year. They never got over the hump because it was on Lee James Harden. That's not the case anymore. I don't think James Harden wakes up and says, Ah, yeah, I need to play 36 37 minutes and put up 2030 something shots. Not happening in Brooklyn. Joe was calling up from Florida Jo, you are CBS Sports Radio. What do you thoughts? J. R. How're you doing? The first time caller? I love your show. I don't get to listen to it much because I'm usually sleeping by this time, But I just want to say before the All that James Harden the haters before the straight Did you have the Nets going to the playoffs? Oh, I thought you were asking that question. So the James Harden haters. The Nets were obviously going to the playoffs. What is your What is your point without James Harden, right? Yes, Correct. Of course. Okay. So who's the best player on the net? Oh, my goodness, Joe, You're gonna ask me a million questions. The guy's name is Kevin Durant. Okay. His Kevin Durant hit me with the next one. I want to hear your point back. The second best is is Irving. Was the third best..
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"For the first time. This year, and it only took 10 games. Last night, They went into Madison Square Garden and 11 14 89 They after they began their three game East Coast road trip with a win against an undermanned Philly team guard, Monte Morris came off the bench and score 12 and said Postgame fatigue should be an issue for this team. Whether we asked before coming in tonight, trying to make no excuses tribe out there. Why? What happened? You know place for the next guy next to you will make the right place, so it was really hard. We've been here before. Denver plays at Brooklyn against Kevin Durant and the Nets tomorrow night before heading home to host Steph Curry and Katie's former team, the Warriors on another nationally televised game for the second Thursday in a row, the Broncos of Little their GM search down to three after Five virtual interviews that Joe Ellis, John Elway and Vic Fangio conducted Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The three candidates all expecting a second interview this week are Vikings assistant GM George Payton. Teri fought know who holds that same role with the Saints and former Broncos personnel man champ Kelly, who's been assistant director of player personnel with the Bear since 2015. I mean the same. So you're part of the featured match up in the divisional round of the playoffs, capping becoming weekend's playoff action when Drew Brees and Company Welcome and fellow Future Hall of Famer Tom Brady to New Orleans on Sunday. Earlier that day, the Chiefs will host the Browns the day before, we'll see another feature. All of Famer Aaron Rodgers and the Packers welcome the Rams, the Lambo, followed by the Ravens at the Bills. The Avalanche got a bit of a boost just a couple days before they drop the puck on the new season is Captain Gabe Landeskog goalie Philipp Grubauer and one of the newest has for bread inside all hit the ice for the first time Sunday after being on the unfit to compete list since can't began a week ago. They welcome the blues the ball arena Wednesday night and we've got more afternoon college hoops for you right here on K away today. See Buffs. Men's basketball team heads the Utah tip off it for a pre game coverage gets underway at 3 30 that's boards and raining crystalline care when his radio on the Broncos office Iraqis, Okay,.
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"Thank you, Pat 6. 14 time for sports. Now with the K and we start with paid two wins for the Nuggets. We like it. Yeah, Getting 2 500 shouldn't be such a challenge for a team that was in the Western Conference finals last season. But the Nuggets are there for the first time this year, and it only took 10 games Last night. They went into Madison Square Garden and 11 14 89. Today after they began their three game East Coast Road trip with a win against another man, Philly team guard Monte Morris came off the bench and score 12. Said Postgame fatigue should be an issue for this team. Whether we asked before coming in tonight and try to make no excuses charge about their play wherever you no place for the next guy next to you will make the right place so It was really hard. We've been here before. Denver plays that Brooklyn against Kevin Durant and the Nets tomorrow night before heading home to host Steph Curry and Katie's former team, the Warriors on another nationally televised game for the second Thursday in a row. The Broncos of Little their GM search down to three after five virtual interviews that Joe Ellis, John Elway and Vic Fangio conducted Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The three candidates all expecting a second interview this week are Vikings assistant GM George Payton. Teri fought know who holds that same role with the Saints and former Broncos personnel man champ Kelly, who's been assistant director of player personnel with the Bear since 2015. Speaking the same So you're part of the featured match up in the divisional round of the playoffs, capping becoming weekend's playoff action when Drew Brees and Company welcome and fellow future Hall of Famer Tom Brady. To New Orleans on Sunday. Earlier that day, the Chiefs will host the Browns the day before we'll see another feature. All of Famer Aaron Rodgers and the Packers welcome the Rams, the Lambo, followed by the Ravens at the Bills. The Avalanche got a bit of a booth just a couple days before they drop the puck on the new season is Captain Gabe Landeskog goalie Philipp Grubauer and one of the newest has for bread inside all hit the ice for the first time Sunday after being on the unfit to compete list since can't began a week ago. They welcome the blues the ball arena Wednesday night and we've got more afternoon college hoops for you right here on K away today. See Buffs. Men's basketball team heads the Utah tip off it for a pre game coverage gets underway at 3 30 that's boards and raining crystalline care when his radio on the Broncos up Suraj carry.
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NBA -- Markelle Fultz's shooting problems next issue for 76ers after Jimmy Butler trade
"Fold the thing that really stands out to me. And it's to me after the Jimmy Butler acquisition for the seventy Sixers in general is on Saturday as I walked around campus ESPN and was talking to some of the basketball guys here. I kept asking how they liked the Jimmy Butler trade in several people said, hey, what I don't like about it is that the seventy Sixers just lost some shooting and they're going to struggle. To find that shooting. Again, they don't have a lot of guys with range. So then I'm watching Marquel Foltz to Markelle full things. And I'm realizing man is sort of I realize it's not a range issue. But in less, the seventy Sixers are going to adopt sort of a Milwaukee Bucks metric where they're just gonna do only short shots, and they're only going to compact everything around the rim. I don't know how they're going to stretch it. I don't know how they're gonna shoot it. It's it's one of the things that we think we have to keep an eye on on how they adjust. Yeah. Absolutely. You look at what they were intimidating or hoping to get in the last two off seasons when they've sort of failed. I guess they've to off-seasons in a row acted as though they were all in on getting a max type guy and haven't been able to get that last year. It was Paul George and Paul George maybe made a little more sense for this team. He didn't need the ball in his hands as much better three point shooter. But you are still getting a great player in Jimmy. What's most interesting to me beyond the basketball aspect is personality wise, you've already got. A relationship between Embiid and Simmons that many say are not going as far as the stay frosty, but professional not not super friendly with each other. And then you've got full who's got a what seems to be a problem with with the. Yep. Since the mental approach to the game you bring in Jimmy Butler who is notoriously hard on his teammates. And who has been in the middle of some pretty big fights in his last two stops in Chicago, and Minnesota, and you wonder if he's going to inflame any existing tensions on that Philly team at and also that they've got a pretty young GM and Elton brand is not super experienced. Will. He deserve an urn Jimmy's respect in the way that he's going to want to stick around and be a part of this team going forward that they're going to want us. He's gonna say I'll stick around for that five years one hundred ninety million or whatever this this could be a rental, and it could make things worse. Well, especially given the the mindset around the organization. And they're young stars.
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"Okay and they're pounding philly on a day arrest like this is what bella check doesn't football the two best coaches in american pro sports now are in boston was the football coach and one's the hoops coach i i'm not ready to jump ship on philadelphia i'm going to write this off to a young team feeling itself reading this plus press clippings not realizing that the first round of the playoffs is different than the second round the second round is different from the conference finals and the finals are different from the nba finals and so i just don't think the level of intensity i think caught philly off guard boston was more ready i'm gonna wait one more game boston at home playing well they lost all their road games in the previous series against milwaukee i i'm gonna wait one more game before i jumped ship on film a couple of things i think the sixers are still favorite i think there's still in that prime position but what you have and this is the further your point about boston i'm here ciller fan we play doing the trench every time this year for first down into the game we got the ball we go nine yeah yards but it's a penalty now with i i in twenty s at a second and won we beat ourselves new england doesn't that's what boston did boston out executed this philly team who wasn't ready for the.