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Rapinoe Rips Two

Around the Horn

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Rapinoe Rips Two

"The analysis USA to Spain one and everything from this very strange Cup or how I learned to stop worrying and avoid the VAR also the meth apologizing. For their manager cursing at a member of the media, you people. Let's go. That actually guys. Sometimes we don't you who Spain want. Hence anxious game here. Quarter-final to US goals onto Meghan, repeat o-. Penalty fix the first from the penalty here Tobin heath drawing and the second here with some question Roosevelt draw. Here's our panel. And we're also going to bring in Frank. I Sola today are resident soccer reporter standing by for a few minutes. We thank you. Let's start with that penalty kick right there, Frank and the penalty draw was at a penalty. You know, as they like to say it was a little harsh under the circumstances at one, one you'd like to see the team really earn it. Plus the touch that Roosevelt took was away from the goal. But I think by the letter of the law, unfortunately, that's a penalty against Spain good for the US. They were the better team you would just like to see them score a goal in the run-up play as opposed to eight. Is that a penalty right there? It's not a penalty for me. It's still a discretionary call on some level. And like Frank said, if you're moving away from net, it's hard for me to believe that, that's something that you're actually going to consider taking away a goal chance in my personal opinion. However, the VA are made it tougher as well. You go to the review you go back to that. And then you decide on letter of the law, I don't know. I to me that really killed the momentum of the game. And it made Spain put them in a position where they are made it tougher that is the headline of this entire tournament. Speaking of making it tougher Woody page make it tougher for me right here in a penalty. Yeah. Well, no, not at all to be. It was vacuous. And then there was an embarrassment. So if you had those two together, I'd. Don't think at that point into maj. That's you really wanted to make that call other referees, I think, in the tournament would have let it slide. You had a situation where Spain was going to be physical the entire game eighteen thousand call four is United States, and that was their intention, but I think in that case looking at it over and over, get his people will do that just wasn't enough to actually affect anything about that played going on, and Spain will always reverted this as lavar, I understand where you're going there. Thank you very much glossiest. I should say Kevin Blackstone knowing Spain strategy to get very physical studs up in that position. Is that automatic call for you? I didn't think so. I thought I didn't think it was that agreed. And I think that, you know, the women's game right now has a difficulty when it comes to handling physicality, there are some nations that have suffered because of that. And I think in this particular case Spain did. And, you know, in America, people are always critical of, of referees in late situations about swallowing their whistles and letting play go on. And yet, we're going to accept this particular judgment, because it went in the US as favor, I think that soccer really has to look at that, and, you know, and when you have a seventy five percent, chance of scoring from a penalty kick, and then they Levin percent chance of scoring in regular play. Sometimes it's just not proportion. Jackie. Let's approach it from that way back quarter of this game that being awarded a penalty, kick does that change it for you. I don't know. I don't know where I stand on this. Go ahead. Well, I mean so I'm no soccer. Expert. So all I can do is watch and tell me what my eyes say my eyes, tell me that in that instance, I don't even think it affected. The actual play as these guys mentioned. It wasn't like they were moving towards the goal. It didn't stop a goal anything like that. But as we have said, in so many sports soccer football, everything else when you go by the letter of the law, you have no choice. You don't give the referee choice in my opinion. If you're gonna have a letter of the law, then I don't think the referee has any choice, but to follow that litter, especially with Hilla bucket. Let's remember the referee was in a pretty good position. So not only what did she see? What's here? She might have heard something unfortunate. I remember when Italy won the World Cup back in two hundred six they'd be Ukraine with a player on their team dribbling away from the goal and the his back, he'll clip, and they got awarded a penalty kick in the same situation. I agree with everyone on the panel. I think it's you hate to see a game end like that. And I think the rules on some little should be changed. But I believe it's. To this team look like the team they are the best team in the tournament the favor for this Cup. Well, I you know, I was watching the game with Kevin. I think the concern is always been the back line and the goalkeeper and listen there early on with Becky Sauerbrun that mistake that they made on the Spain goal. You cannot make that mistake at this level. But I also think that Nair flay pretty well from that point on she came out strong on a couple of crosses, and the outside backs Kelley O'Hara, and also crystal done. I thought they route states crystals loved the wishy. Split alternative with the thing that the US women's seem does well better than most people realize it's conditioning. They stay in these games longer, because they are simply a better athletic team than most of these squads who have to go to these physical nature's. But that ninety that's what the US does better than anybody else at this stage that they can get through it all they do it. Well, let's talk about the games from yesterday, Brazil, and France rates tenths. And yet again, some VAR nonsense, France advancing. Mortem was incredible on the way out. I'm gonna talk about that later England and Cameroon yesterday. The words to describe what happened here very much. In question. Let's take a listen. Blige is going out worldwide about how that's goals playing all over the world. See, not behavior stunned of behavior that you've got to do it. I'm proud. I know it's emotional. I know their tempers running in a game like this. But it just got bizarre with the meeting and the complaining and the winning and the stock was starts and. That the high seed in world football and embarrassing to what because said, young children watching that you're there from England coach Phil Neville, the Falker FOX Thakur crew here Nick onto player through. Of bisciotti flights. We're good. To nationally on the field is different. Women actually. Well, I saw very unfortunate. I mean, I think the Cameroon team had a lot to be frustrated with not only with the officiating, but with the VR a AVI our review. And I think that you know that second goal the second goal that, that England scored and the goal that they scored that was race were very similar. I, I don't know how one team can be appeared to be all sides and another team not and the rulings go in opposite directions. So they had a lot to be frustrated about. And we've seen this once again with African teams I mean, I remember being in South Africa for the hosting down there. And how Ghana was was very frustrated in terms of the way their physical nature flay. They felt that they were being judged differently on the pitched and some other teams. And so you saw it come out here and it's just really unfortunate. And I just hate the comments from the manager from England do couldn't gates. How about you? I feel the same way in Phil noble talking about how people are ashamed of what they sell the person should be ashamed is never himself. Let's be clear about this, the language in the tonality that you use when referring to teams from certain places is extremely important in England of all places should know better as they invented the game. So to say that their behavior was out of line. Or what have you trying to, you know, tell little girls what they should and should not care about in appropriate in the space. If Cameroon felt they were wrong. They should've been allowed to voice that as they did. How they so choose tournament is about inclusion if certain people do things certain ways that is their choice in that should be allowed to do not admonish people for behaving a certain way when they felt they've been peaking specifically, they'll on what happened on the field Clinton. You saw elbows. You saw spitting. You saw referee be shoved his wells is they're not sending me. That's part of the emotion of the game. The ref is a part of the field. I understand that certain things people find unbecoming, but that doesn't mean that is by default wrong as a result look Cameron play. A game that was winnable. In this situation. They felt that it was taken away from them. I can understand how things got a little bit more really than they wanted them to write guy, solo. We brought in today because you were acting writing about this, this week, and you see this differently than Clinton Yates, and Kevin Blackstone, please. Well, I would say this, I think Cameron was actually pretty lucky that the player who spit didn't get sent off. There was an elbow, that player could have been sent up, but I do agree with Cameroon their goal should have stood. It should have been to one. So look at it from their standpoint. If you're, if you're a basketball team you go down to Duke, you're the underdog, and you feel like they're getting every call your football team. You go to New England play the patriots the better team. They're getting every call. And I think that was the emotion spilling over. But I'll say this on behalf of Phil Neville. Remember at the end of the match a player on Cameroon fouled his centreback pretty harshly right on ankle. Then the player rolled at the feet of the Cameroon coach, who didn't get out of the way. And I think that's what Bill medals really ticked off about. So that play happens late then within ten minutes. He's dressing. The whole situation on him to say that specifically again because the. Tonality is the where Clinton use my point here is that he went to there are children watching. There are girls watching is that not going too far. I don't think it is. I think he was upset with the way I think a lot of people are upset with the way the Cameron acted everything when against them, you motion one hundred percent people understand that, but the stomping around not restarting the game when you're supposed to it. Got to be a little MAC. And I bring you in here from from view. Sure. Yeah. So I just think the emotions clearly is what overcame Cameroon and I didn't like what I saw. I can't imagine that anyone did we can explain some of the reasons why they felt wronged or had reasons. But you know what you have to do a better job than that control and the coach, it looked to me at times was trying. He was hugging those girls so tight, so they wouldn't get out there and have those emotions erupt again. But what I'd like to address this shameful on all the back headlines of all the British tabloids. Seriously? You know what's really shameful about the World Cup? And women's soccer is that they don't get the money they deserve. They don't get the equal pay. If you care so much about women's soccer, why don't you talk about the real shameful things in this incredible point? Jackie, thank you for a dressing that, that is also to the side of this conversation. I think could you say those tablets were taking the cue from Neville and what he'll ask you that did never go too far. Absolutely. Let me step back and talk about what's happened during the World Cup. Do United States. Women were. Castigated because they celebrated so much. They react to the motion. They showed the kind of motion that we see in this country. Okay. Cameroon reacts with abortion. They are disappointed. They're upset. Sure, they did some things that were not classy, you wanna put their way, but it's the same sort of situation where people want them to everybody. That's participating woke up to be in the same box and just do exactly what they're supposed to do. I don't get it whatsoever. I think Cameroon had the right to sit there and talk about wall. Do we really want to accept this, just like the United States, women decided they wanted to celebrate? I saw Notting really approval in some ways it shaking it in other ways. I wanna go back to him on say's. This a lot of people are saying, you know, Phil Neville, who you talk, you played at Manchester United with two guys that were chippy players Roy Keane, antenna. But he's the head coach of team and everyone on this panel knows when you're a coach, one of your top. Stories if not number one is the health safety and wellbeing of your players, and that's who was talking about. Should take that up with the people directly involved in. He should also know as they head coach of England women national team that he is representing the game on a larger level in that is ultimately the problem. This is a bad look for this tournament when he read you brought up early because discussion we had, and that came about gender stereotyping, which, of course, is still in play ear can black Blackstone, looting to racial stereotyping as well here and Jack you bring up the here that it's also about the disrespect is game received all these can be true. All of port of this team. Also still go too far in their elbows in their reaction in reactions celebrating goals because you have teams that are funded differently and celebrated differently in their country, which then gets how Marta raft up her potentially her career here in the. Three not mind, this may be her. She may be the greatest time, have a to use her time here to stick to the younger generation Brazilian players. It's kind of an easy. She says, Ryan the beginning smile at the end. Bruins would also work at smile to beginning so you can cry, which is what martyr showing our here. We'll be back. Thank you very much. That's the PTI just the other fire cells. I. The word is brought to you by Taco Bell. Not Joe fries. Welcome back to around the horn coming to you from the Heineken river deca tear seventeen. York met manager. Mickey Callaway he's managing tonight. The Mets have apologized and sincerely regrets, and do not condone behavior of Calloway as widely reported because this happened. Hello in front of a all the reporters, Newsday beat writer Tim Healy Sankt. See you tomorrow. Mickey Callaway, not liking the tone reported the state. Don't be a smart bleep mother. Bleeper Mets pitcher, Jason bargains reports charged Healy Healy saying shorts, not the right wording. It wasn't that bad. I recognize I'm talking to members of the meeting here. But you all have unmatched insight here. If not stories, so how'd you hear all this? To me, this is the fun part. I understand it. Some people don't love it when players in media mix it up. But again, if I'm gonna hear all this stuff about how the New York media is so Dag on tough, and this that third this is standard operating procedure, every once in a while you're going to get into a disagreement, but somebody in a locker room because say players in me this was a manager of media different for millions. Same purpose members in uniform our team what he page. I'm sure you have stories. I give you let me. Yes, I confronted with a coach in an airport. He told me I could get on a plane. That was not a charter which is a regular schedule play. I've had players sick their figures in my chest. Call me every possible name you can, it's a nothing story when you're thrown together locker rooms like nothing store tuitions of this sort. Nothing to see here, Kevin blogs vote. I'm sure you've got stories. Let's go. I do have stories going nose to nose with a pretty famous football coach and going at it with a basketball player. But you know what? That's not something I look for in this game. I mean I understand that we are on opposite sides, and we have to be critical, and they have to respond, but not to this not to this extent, and then to have a player threatening, you know, we draw the line there. Jackie macmullan. Yeah. I I gotta disagree with you, Woody. I don't believe at all at this is nothing to see here. This is a manager that was thin-skinned made a media reorganise. And then emboldened his player to then, go forward into actually make a move towards a reporter. I don't know why that is ever. Okay. It's not. Okay. And you know, Nikki Kelly. An Apollo you should have happened within an hour. Current the metropol-. I understand what you're saying. There the fireable offense. Jackie. No, I wouldn't say fence because I do believe that all of us sometimes act inappropriately in the heat of the. Four seventy five winning percentage blowing. Cut it away might be. He could be fired for. All right. We'll move on buyer. Fill to another fans. Struck by mall again at Los Angeles Dodgers game. The seat was four rows in from the field passed the protective netting. Cody Belgian hit the ball, quote, I saw literally hit her face. I'm sure it was tough for everyone. I went over the next half inning to make sure she says she was. All right. Gave me a thumbs up fan whose name is not been released was given an ice pack initially then taken to the hospital, what he what is the satisfactory response from the dodgers here. And because spotlight is on baseball here. This is multiple times the season. What is the satisfactory funds for baseball? Respond should be where sorry about it happening again, we're going to extend the dating all the way down the baselines to the into left and right field and they can do it during the all star break. Let's get it done now not wait again to next year and there, be more. Yeah, I got a note from the nationals in the season ticket holder just last Thursday. And they said that they are going to use the all star break to extend the netting all the way to the corners. And this is to protect obviously the fans from any danger, but also the players from having to go through the anguish, jigsaw Bellinger, and more. The other week have to go through Jackie MAC. It's like a plan without him. Bishen is like a car without gas. Tony. It's not going anywhere. So if you really want to get it done, you can get it done. Don't tell us how hard it is. Don't tell us how difficult it is. You know what this reminds me of hockey back in the days when guys didn't wear helmets. Including the goalies people liked it that way because that's how they knew it. Eventually they realized this isn't safe. Let's change it, and you're referencing Commissioner rob Manfred support that it was difficult structurally involved parks to have this happen to the middle and our and our fans. Don't want it our fans don't want it. Well, we, we see Esca fan who got hit in the head. Of course they do. I think that's a good for Jackie and the point is defense who do want. It might be that are not in your ballpark, as a result, which is something to think about issues to see not just who does this in their own ballparks over the course of the all game weekend. But if they do it in the all-star game itself in Cleveland. Sit behind netting. Now how much it obstructs their view or changes their impacts already lost fan in the last calendar year actors, ballpark baseball still has not addressed that because well as they possibly sorry, Kevin Clinton of scoring guys today? We'll, we'll later, the which fades, Jackie polish soda nex fixes scores. Night. Teen standing ovations to curtain called homerun, plus the Yati Molina, and our pools. Jersey swap in hog plus with fans. And this was just incredible weekend. Wouldn't you take pools, his return to Saint Louis? Louis is number one baseball city in the country. Forget what Boston New York, say and the way they responded to a guy who'd been great in that city and with that franchise and it was the players, the fans the coaches it was fantastic. No canned music. No fireworks. No big announcements just two teammates, give sharing a great hug in front of all the people that sovereign succeed together. What a genuine moment, I loved ROY, they're genuine, you know, you see these videos, they can roll that all the time, this seemed much more organic than that, though. What you're getting a point for sticking to Boston. Right and jagged face. Well, move on fifteen hundred right now on the spot to give up your airplane seat with more legroom to Cam Newton argue doing it, Jackie demand declined. How do you believe? You know what having recent next surgery, I'm saying no to absolutely everybody. When I first class seat and the note to Cam, when you don't ever traveling secretary book your own flight, and get there on time, so you don't have to do this. Sure, I would've taken it for care. But I would've asked for more two season. Tickets a place on the bids next to you. UB to you. Back up what he fades. That's how you negotiate and earn thirty seconds of FaceTime. We always thought about grinding gears. What bothers every time I go to the grocery or go to a shopping mall. I see cart all over the parking lot is delay. In fact, up everywhere, Libby reach out, all you take your car to the place. Passionate or fights buddy who's going into the grocery McCarthy grid. What kind of society on? Good page. I love when your fears get grinded. And I love the when you go. She is back on the Panthers. And. See.

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Football Postcast: Euro 2020 Qualifiers | UCL Reaction | FIFA Women's World Cup Tipping

Racing Post

27:38 min | 2 years ago

Football Postcast: Euro 2020 Qualifiers | UCL Reaction | FIFA Women's World Cup Tipping

"At farmers insurance. We know a roof can withstand ally. One exception being an airborne car seen it covered it click for more. We are. Underwritten by farmer's truck fire insurance exchanges and affiliates. Products available in every state here at potty power with a home of the money back special with some incredible offers every single week. Check out the website or app today. Terms and conditions apply. Eighteen plus begun to dot org. Welcome to the last race impose football post cast of the season. It's an action packed show, I'm Bruce Millington and joining me to look ahead to some European qualifies, and the women's World Cup all limb Flynn and in Wilkinson from the rice in post football desk. But first, before we look at head because I've got an arsenal finding Tottenham finding this Judah a very quick look back on the Champions League fun. Did you absolutely love? Arsenal fan. Yeah. It was. It was it was a good tonic after the rope a league final after say was well it wasn't it wasn't particularly good game. But we had an incredible Champions League. Incredible semifinals. I wasn't necessarily the best end to what was tournament. But good result for an awesome found definite. We'll always at sit on the show Las where gun to me. So he's horrible guy, then yeah, it wasn't great was in particular. I mean it's difficult when you saw like you've invested in. Emotionally with one of the one of the teams it wasn't a spectacle, not quite Staubach, arrest or read. Stop grading the distance. Oh, that was pulled. I'm yeah. I saw that the audience in the big five countries in Europe as I go as nearly hall since they will have the rights of the pay per view. The need to look at that a quick point for each of those two teams for next season. Tottenham all do limb next season. I think yeah, they need to little bit rebuilding done incredibly well to get where they have gone for transfer windows, having made assign is remarkable. But I think now they will have to look in terms of squad that possible player outgoing Ericsson as possible to him, leaving even your entire for a little bit about, he might be out the door, this certainly they need to build and make deeper and say it does depend on the putsch Tino stays on which I think he will. Yeah. Because it looks at Sarah's guns, a loser all easterner. You know, it's for the meantime, let's stay. Eric's Wilco acidic before the champions, being a big fan. Against, you know, a Palestine another team against those teams outside the top secret. I think he's, he's got all these ability to pick dictate the ten fantastic. But I think once you out the opposition will. I don't think he's great. It's also if they can cash in on him, I think that's fun. But they do need to strengthen that nine inches freshen things up. I think we've the Playa situation Ericson would definitely leave remark. Good wishes. He's been. He's played well for over seven seasons. And I definitely wouldn't begrudgingly opportunity to go, but I'm not as upset as I was where moderate left, and I'm not upset as Wayne bio, leftover. What about livable? We'll light close the gap on city or if they do champions. And I think I definitely will, I mean, I think the big difference. Glenn Hoddle pointed to it before the trial. He said before the game. You said live to after play their best to win taught him do have to play their best. And that's exactly what happened. And the ended the end of the Spurs couldn't break. It defense seventy five million pound center off and seventy five million pound coke print it. So that's the big difference, definitely thing, the they'll push on they can have to win win. I was on definitely finger be ROY out fleeting. Quick would on tonight's game. Ingram versus the Netherlands, import you go. Liam the I think it'll be quite lively in counseling. I law people spoken about it could be a little bit cagey, especially given go found Daikin kind of just come back from the Champions League final bussing the bulk of both squads should be relatively fit. I haven't I haven't played for a while. But I think that recipe doing quite good and yeah. I think they talking quality on the. I think I can say is going to go into extra-time could see could see one one in this game. Look in terms of a bet. Look sterling score anytime before eleven to five. Yeah. He expects, if not probably be out on the left against the fullback Denzil Dumfries for Netherlands, who is, is in particular experienced into into the school with him. A Dutch a tiny Phoenix. He's not particularly experienced that level. I think against he could struggle stir oversee scored four goals. I think, of course, those two qualifies for England's first game I should think I think the patch comforting and consequently not between the teams industrial value. Come kickoff Roddy? Ho, okay, let's look at the weekend's European champions, European championship qualifies Kikunda from Friday in group, d seven forty five versus Republican vines, these Patty, power prices, they might be the best prices that might be better values, where do check, but they bet eight to fifteen eleven to two Republic violence and thirteen five drawer limb any value there. I think I would go Denmark, but to get more value out. It'd be Denmark and under free point five goals. Possibly, I think e look island unconvincing, edge boss, Gibraltar and Georgia by one nail wins, and they're going to be hampered even more in the final thing, Allen Brown Preston players being impressive this season. He's going to be out along with Shane long as well. So they don't have much threat. Going forwards, both of Denmark, have the plaza can hurt him as a think Ericsson will be expected to play despite featuring the Champions League final race in the as we were talking about not move their own, actually, I think when you when you go that pressure on us a player, I think it could spur them onto to perform even more. So in that game, I think it will probably be close scoring still both nations league meetings into goal is so democracy onto free point five, we'll goes in this island who've been five goals in seven matches and as Liam pointed out by goalless draws in the nation's lake. One of the two unders is under to enough to bit shy for me. So if you want to be more bang, I ain't half on the north goes, okay, Joey good on Zoe. No one on Saturday group eight o'clock Croatia versus Wales, this should be goods. It's live on Sky Sports. Eight to fifteen Croatia thirteenth five nine two two wiles. Wilco what you like here to score Fink cry should needs pick up really. They've not been great since I go to the World Cup final any nudge, pasta. As a by John, I felt a hungry in. They lost they lost qualify one clean sheet. And I lost thirteen since I be Tina that night, but they won free now when the World Cup one of the best games on the Mauritian bio plane. Yeah, we would expect the, the big games of I mean by we should be he should be he's the he's not at the survey hectic season. We've around Madrid deny. I mean, they've got some really good midfielders like Dinu James David Brooks. Give them a bit. But life they're not so much of a one man team it comes to. That whilst teams that she's taking shape news and it was. Dan, James about Scuds menu nights Brooks. He's he's, you know now fifty million pound player as well. I'm into an produced so much like he's going to turn into that wild the where they were you know that really good. Plot Hughes and Russian good forwards, and Mark would plans. It was a store that was, so I guess six to five, I think would be positive get limo. The bet hair exactly the same set funny enough. Yeah, I wouldn't be rushing toback Croatia the defeat Hungary recently. Don't think there's going to be any Yvonne Rocketeer. I've econ really underestimate importance and of him in that team either. But they do have crime rates in Paris. The final third obviously have moderate plans go, get attacking quality, and Buddha's talking about Don, James garf- bow thing while the pace to hit them on the counter at least grab a goal and both teams to scores landed in creches lost four games. I'd go for that. Okay. Subtleties other guy we're going to look is group c five PM Estonia versus northern northern favorites at five to six stonier one hundred thirty and the price on drawn to is the draw two one Liam would it be draw on guy phenomenon island? Actually, I think after they were comfortable winners in reverse fixture, there on the shot count nineteen five in that game. And they have to win these. Matches against the stunning better Reuss because then tricky games against Germany, and the Netherlands to come in group stage, and I think, yes, Danica suffered defeats to Greece Finland, and Hungary recently, the nation's league and the only edge posture brought her so I'd be look into that Northern Ireland. Would you Wilco degree the finger? No of land is massive. There's a massive difference between the team that play in Belfast. And when they go in the travels, I never lost nineteen games, which is quite good record for a nation, wouldn't be regarded as one of the primary teams in them in Europe. But they've not scored lost seven away games having said that planet. Same nine ranked ninety six in the world. There's only ten European teams ranked lower than his stone. Yeah. And the home team anyone to the last I on their own patch. So like in Buckner trend vet poor white foam, and get something says a both teams to school no jobs to me on Sunday in group on seven forty five pm. Scotland a four to nine you might be thinking at Scott. A four to nine they playing inside pursuer eleven to two and Patty Powell go three two one, the draw Wilco can we trust the skulls forty nine here? It's could be state clock's fast game as manager. So that's that could have defect playing a hand not lift when big AC. Well, yeah. And he's had a very good season. Anybody gets killed Monica finished. Third in Scottish, primarily behind the two Old Firm things. That is that's a good achievement. For definitely, the thing about this group is, I stunk like fat when they lost free. New in them Kazakhstan Scotland, but it's very open group Belgium, top of, and we'll very likely to be at the top at the end of his, but there's four team cypress. Russia, Kazakhstan, and Scotland won one and lost one into says pretty much all the play for the best win by MOS finish second. Well, maybe not that World Cup but they did flatten a little bit. Didn't they? So I'm definitely wouldn't rule them out putting that result beyond and kicking. On. I score a lot Ryan Fraser these great season. Bulma free expert. He's eight to one which is decent, h white valley, James Forrest is favorite for this. You scored a hat trick in his last when I be Israel in the nation's that they'd be out by news Cutler, decent results in the nation's. But I'm he's any school, too, and he's lost ten guys for sale offing, taking on phrases Manam, big fan fries was one attorneys back on that Rosie, maybe service think he committed to the calls the way. Well, I don't know about that. But I think I think he's still in the. Well, that's good news. It's great plan for me. I'd sink comprehensive Scotland winner say, minus one minus one on the go. Handicap, I think there will be a good, feel good factor on hundred policy. Not only with Steve clock coming in both the Andy Robinson will be returning to the. I think he is just a massive boost. Yeah. Exactly. He was like, oh, yeah. One the chance to gripe. I'm really up to. Very much been positive about his involvement in this week. In most people's top three footballers you'd like to few biz with windy Rovers. Yeah. Seems a brilliant, brilliant blowed, doesn't it is go. Yeah. Great, great character. Great plaid contribute defensively, ongoing food for them. And then you look at Cyprus picked up a point from their free away away games in the nation the against mediocre size ranked ranked eighty nine th in the world. I think I think it should be easy easy win fifty clock. Scotland never easier. Scotland let's do the women's World Cup next. Right. Ten seconds to promote putty. Power games party. Power games potty power games party games advertising. It's easy, when you know how putty power enough of the nonsense eighteen plus become it. It took way all looking ahead to the women's World Cup, which starts on Friday. Very exciting Martin tournament. The women's World Cup was absolutely loved it for years ago. In candidates really wasn't. It was a superb tournament slick football played in a fantastic spirit. No diving. No cheating. No arguing. It's actually superb do make sure you watch the women's World Cup. It will be brilliant. And hopefully we've got a couple of pets for you to make even better or spin three potty Peres leading process eleventh for the USA five seventy to the host fronts, five to Germany, seven to one England, twelve hundred Japan, the Netherlands and Australia, so Netherlands, no strike actually fourteen and sixteen one Paul lane who will win the women's Cup final of there's a lot of excitement about USA clear favorites. Never finished third women's World Cup. But I think as reasons to oppose them, I only made the quarterfinals if the limp. In two thousand sixteen and they've got some incredible quality, the thing is fat, but quite agent scored. I mean Carli Lloyd is about thirty six Meghan rapper now for free type and he not one. So I think his reasons to oppose them, also France. I mean that there are up there is you say home advantage. The big key for them is the whole core is comprised of Leo implies you've just gone on a fourth successive Champions League title, the likes of Wendy in our the sense of back among Deanery in midfield. Unusually so. Nice. I've go get a good core to that team. But they've never made it pasta quarter-finals. I do there's going to be added pressure, because a nation's ever held the men's and women's talked to the same time so that added pressure and inspire them. The limb it. Could it could? Yeah. Very much. So I seventy two fourteen of never made it beyond the court fun. It was a bit too risky for me. So I think the team seem like to look over Germany. I think yeah, I mean in two thousand fifteen semifinalists two-time World Cup winners. They're always there were there abouts insist on beaten, inverting matches. And I think the edge they've got over these other sides going into in told him is a slight sense of unpredictability. I mean, the coaches Martina Voss tech Burke, she's only been them, she's made a good start. And I've got a very good blend or think of, of you experience in that team. Still got their core goalkeeper Schultz. Jennifer Marazion is one of the best the best player in the world possibly, analyze Endre pop from Khanna complimented, buddies, younger players, lots of Lear Shula and saw the Brit. So I think, yeah, I'd look at Germany, my main on nine fancies in the outright. Well, very strong case for the German. So you're gonna go for Wilco Americans a couple of, of bit further down the list of new doll about America. I we've mentioned they've lost once and lost thirty eight matches. They just now out to get a job done in that comf- that very comfortable group is an open tournament. But i've. Dream draw. They can play Chilean Thailand. I mean they're playing Thailand. I for one on to win that much like really rack up if few goes in so account. See is going to be a problem getting of grief stage and they play Sweden in the loss game the team who not at the Olympics. So you can imagine the American men's how have, you know, that's really going to inspire them to get through that they are. I mean eleven there's a little bit bigger than eleven to four out there. So I think they're the best of the big guns. It's a it's a m is a tone -ment, that's quite quite top heavy. When you look at the drawer, because if, if the Americans get through relatively easy group that can have to play either Germany or Spain in the last sixteen impossibly FRANZ core finals, then possibly England in the in the semi. So if if Jimmy get free that's teams second third and fourth in the world. Whereas on the value is teams. I'm. Could give you run human twenty four teams only so twenty four groups six groups of four and then around sixteen isn't it best? Produce twenty six format to. Yeah. The teams are like from each white perspective, or straight area, who they've gone, excellent forward in Sam Curry's a real star player. And they've been pushing on. They were unlucky to finish runners up to Japan in Asian Cup. I think like a guy. Well had lost change of manager. There's been a bit of a Bill tiff Alan Sach was managing he was. They sacked him for having an unsatisfactory football environment. So they've got new manager, there was a bitter row because I had as young girl sixteen year old Mary, Fowler who he didn't wanna play. But she's that's how I wish. So there's a June nationality issue. So straight desperate for its place. I that they keep her because he's up and rising, they should win that group. They look good all our hollandaise, well, Covent European champions. Definitely pushing on. And they, they, they should if they both respective groups, they'll meet each core final. So if you back by for them each way than you should have run in the semi. So that would be, you know, which would not be bad. When when I fall into one sixteen one and. The team little bit for route spine. Twenty five to one. They can apply to style it with the says shake with Spanish, but they play in the same manner with the as a mainstay of type passing good possession. Tardy footballers. They're on the up. They wanna light if they qualify matches. They didn't get through the group stage, loss time was at divey, but Spanish whims, football's deputy on the they won the under nineteen and the under seventeen European championships, there twenty five to one offing they can give America will. So the Germans had really good run in, in their group. And if they get through twenty five to one is a decent h shop for team with many, many of their play football, Selena who runs up to Leon in the funnel. Contested, what Orleans? She's gonna live out to the Netherlands. I think they're just way too big. I think the reason that'd be underwriters. They qualified for playoff tonight portion of the golf cut recently. So maybe that's seen him inflatable tonight, but they're still euro, twenty seventeen champions and just going forward. You look at the place of the disposal. Vivian Dama is of the also plash, and he's found Assange, leak mountains, Daniele, don't they're just go possibly the best food going forwards probably the best tool and maybe USA tonight. Okay. So to summarize yoga in Germany, Holland or Netherlands, and Wilco all cow, American Australia, a lovely stuff. Right. Top score. Then Patty power, go to Alex Morgan of the USA seven to one Samantha Kerr from Australia and front. She's Eugenie Lasama fifteen to Vivian me Dima from the Netherlands, eleven's one. Alexandra pop twelve to Valerie Govinda fronts and fourteenth one Meghan, wrapping Ofra numeric from the American scored sixteen. One ball. Whereas the value Wilco. Well, just said there the Americans of easy grief and go a couple of games. They should win quite convincingly. So it's no surprise to see Alex Morgan of the top of the market. But I'm she's only school free and I lost in last ten games for America. And they've had some pretty hefty wins. I think I'll swerve Erin. Gopher teammate, Tobin heath at sixteen to one is the next recent record. She'll be planning to support striker. She scored five seven internationals and the other one, I like is Medina. The Dutch go of Saint applied to a free times for us. No very good. She's gonna it's a bit like it's a bit like hurricane United. She's gonna play every game. She's got great record fifty eight goals in seventy five games for Holland and twenty nine goals twenty five in twenty five guys for awesome this year. So she's really good. I would say about a top score market is the this quite of England plaza towards the top of it, and I'll be tempted to give. Them swerve mainly because we're pretty much in the dark about what the team that Phil Neville's gonna pick, so you don't really know who's gonna place go five or six players who capable of having a big tournament balk get fading east gonna chop and change a lot and yeah, I'll give them swelled. You get much value in that Roddy? Ho Lim who'd you like top scorer? I mean, EDSA strike is certainly tempting worker said I mean, a lot to look probably nagging weaponized she could not fill boots and games again, for Thailand and chilies, if you're looking for US ice, rock or thing she probably represents a value, but my main tip of keeping with Germany phen- would be counting Alexandra pop the striker scored thirteen goals full spec in the league this season Forty-six goals for her country. And as I said, earlier things, probably the best playmaker in the world. Jennifer marriage implying behind who you expect feeder for the game. And she's, you know, quite physically imposing striker and she's got the German, evil games in which he could school bucketloads against South Africa and possibly China as well. So I think for my. Main main for top score. A lot of her are like Medea are I think is a good, one of the top score, but you can get even more value out of a player of the tournament bet because she was top scorer in the women say Blake, but she also laid on Tennessee's as well, and she's got squatting imply to watching the fun of, I think that's quite a big price. Play the twenties about twenty twenty five to one tennis. Blackwood Alexsandr, pope didn't age member them in Musica facts about this. Alex pop 'em. Yes. Yes. She really zookeeper professor for what a great life as good, isn't it? Yeah. Wow. Free jazz. She's just completed free year apprenticeship, busy looks armed show that will be a subject of baby. To purpose. Oh, Germany will cut. That'd be. Let's look at the first or the more intriguing first round games, start with the curtain raiser on Friday, eight pm South Korea take on the host, France is live on BBC one getting other great thing about the women's World Cup extensive terrestrial coverage, probably paramount. The French one to ten. They go twenty twos. One that South Korea can provide a massive upset on the draw as fifteen to, to while she best bet them. I think France or minus two on a handicap thing, I'll start this tournament off a bang. I think South Korea over and on Chelsea's joy so young. They don't really have a lot elsewhere qualified for the tournament via goal difference. I lost Iceland, in April and lost Sweden last month, and as I said, talked about core of that front team is just made up of winners. Come on flat Champions League when we Leon. Yeah, that'd be, so I think they can get quite comprehensive win. We'll coat going under suffering. You'll them you will not see much endeavor from the Koreans. Be park in the bus FRANZ coming. Good form. I mean it's in. One, I in fourteen matches, but obviously is hosts than played any sort of competitive football, even they've played and some of the big teams that beat the Americans is where we're not run just taking Chelsea might take him to. There's a lot of pressure on them. We've put him pointed. The, the they don't go past the quarter-finals as a hell of a lot of expectation for Saint, I haven't done much in the past art, just think that they might get off to slice style say on the tune off at five four for me and on Sunday at five pm is England versus Scotland. Again, live on BBC one one two seven England thirteen to one Scotland eleven to draw Wilco today's olds, reflecting Lund's supremacy over Scotland. I think if they beaten six no in the year. I don't think we're gonna see that sort of game. If you decide to me Emaar after England won the prestigious she believes Cup in America where they beat Brazil Japan, who runs up last year and drew with America said, yeah, this'll be comfortable game, but there's not been a lot to be really infused Jessica about in the recent warm-up games. They. Lost two. Am they listen? New Zealand Brighton last week, and I also felt speak Canada. They didn't great performance. They want to nil against them. Cannot do fear that Phil Neville's having trouble identifying who is best team is play different goalkeepers in these warm up matches. There's not been one point buried sort of lock right? You don't get this is my one to eleven is gonna eat laws. Lots of good loss of good attacking options. Scotland's are nothing. Scotland have a chance of Mike in a big impression in this bet. Offing for England. And both teams to score many because they didn't have. Five teams to school the market price up at a time coming over, but Scotland scored in twelve if they lost fourteen matches, they played Jamaica move also qualified their plight. The first Caribbean team to make the World Cup. They want free to hand in front of a crowd last week. But, you know, they, they can see some sloppy goes, and I just I'm not so sure about inland gonna be they've got their back for also it playing together way the guy. So, yes. School age five. Quad cagey FAO injured on the free point five on five of Scotland's last seven games being sale. Bussing goal-margin, low said England have tournament preparations and being particularly good. You're right about not being sure of the best first team of the absence of Jordan knobs, midfield is a big blood interest in, if Lucy bronze for the best of the best fullbacks in the world, she might plug that gap, and they might be okay. But the England could be possibly over running midfield in the big games. Hey, you gonna play absolutely no light rail, isn't it? Yeah. Okay chaps if we were looking at one bat on the opening skirmishes the World Cup who would we go for Wilco can be wherever you like a match a group, you name, it, Australia to in groups at five six? I think I'm Brazil week, the second team in that dismal from Lhasa last nine games Italy in Jamaica, not go World Cup headache. Okay. And what you're gonna go. Yeah, I'm going to Australia talk groups ace, I'm currently ranks agent, Brazil, so I do not for me gun inexperienced in Jamaica team so that go, that's well, beautiful world on trips. Thank you very much, this change the last football. Postcards of the seasonal few. 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Chicharito cant be stopped, David Ochoa vs. Adrian Heath & All of Minnesota

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Chicharito cant be stopped, David Ochoa vs. Adrian Heath & All of Minnesota

"The time his ally find out what's going on in the mls. Maybe this podcast is good as well. Everybody up here. Every single day goes into the amish Tori trying to cook up some great stuff and you guys From new york new york. You are listening to extra time driven by continental tire from kansas city. I am with my partners in soccer. David goss mattdoyle caitlyn car. Yes sir kaelin. It's good thing you're wearing that often see how you celebrate. Man i win first. Goals diego fernandez guy or my boyhood club. So you got your free gear. I'm i'm wrapping court. Can't what's your favorite color. I'm still orangemen. Come on now come on now forever. Orange big weekend for us and see their first ever win a major league soccer. But come on. This weekend's all about teacher ito cheery toe cheech retail. I said it three times. That's how many goals he scored. He now has five on the season. That's one last. The points of the la galaxy have got off to a flying. Start is a sustainable. Both the goals for g thereto and their success. We're gonna talk about that. Also gonna talk about davos shoah who is all up in the brains of every loons fan. Every member of that. Coaching staff every player on the field. Certainly adrian heath The loons i don't know the end of the power rankings with their currently number one in the most likely to insist we should all live by the unwritten rules of baseball rankings. So congratulations to you. Adrian heats for being a top that list. It's just a good thing. We don't have the crybaby rankings. You might be there while. Oh come on. Come on zero problem with. Adrian heath said zero problems. Okay all right. We're going to talk about it. We're gonna have fun with it which we always do with minnesota united. You know it's not personal guys. We're just trying to sell houses on him. Less dot com power rankings. By the way those do come out on tuesday we have a Reaction show doyle and i do at eleven am eastern is going to be a my twitter handle on twitter spaces. We get a bunch of guests from all throughout the league. We have to get somebody from our cell on and somebody from minnesota just to hash this thing out but tune at eleven. am eastern on tuesday. Also key towel era is here. So that's good news. He was the youngest starter in the league last weekend. And this week in had a goal and an assist. Look the part By the way the brothers had a nice day to they got some revenge that union mockery from last year and also taxila quarterfinals analyst. Soccer dot com Of course has johnny russell. This week so go check. That one out. Zack has your saturday saturday. Takeaways every single week and you can get the armchair analyst as well in serie. Plays out to all right. Let's get into it here. I the shadow our fantasy winner. Defend the shield is affiliate fan. Obviously one hundred five points holding off. It's gonna get messy by just one point to finish shows k. Cow on his bench got moved in great move from him. I had cake how starting last weekend i lost. Faith took kate. Calendar my team kicking myself now. So it is what it is. Only fifty points was i- behind defend the shield this week so it can only get better for me. Let's get into it this sunday. One game l. a. galaxy. She treats a continue on. Could he somehow outdo what he did against inter miami. I don't think he did so in the postgame interview but three goals come on man five and two games. I mean he had to all of last year we made fun of oil for taking thereto in the golden boot draft like we groaned. We didn't think we thought that was an awful. Take not so as well. She's gonna happen if you're not you're missing. We missed you last week. Yeah so tell me what you think of. The to experience quickness feels quick because we were doing the preseason rankings and predictions. And i did my top five number. Nine league does not on the list and we were talking and when we're doing i'm like all right. How long before somebody has to come back and be like all right. I hold my hand up. There was a mistake quicker that extra. I'm like okay here. We go top number nine in the league. The power rankings. But now i mean you could see the weight come off him that first match and against miami and then you could see it again. I think like confidence for a striker shows up in a bunch of different ways and for me it in his case it it comes with a optimism because some of those plays that he's making are just plays where he's he's moving and he's being optimistic that the ball's going to appear to him or he's gonna find it and that's that's a type of confidence that doesn't really show as far as maybe your first touch which is also looking for him or his just energy like you was once he got one going then suddenly his movement when the ball went wide he was constantly a problem We could talk about red bull back. Line of three three centrebacks just created so many different gaps cheeto. That was really difficult for them but yeah he he just had that confidence of getting to the right place the right time. Same thing where the deflection comes to him. That's not an accident. You know that it's yeah. I think long gets his feet caught a little bit and it takes a small deflections but teacher riedel's right there on ready to react because he's anticipating that the ball might come to him and he's ready for it when it does so. Yeah i was my big takeaways for him as he just looks completely reinvigorated. I it sounds like for him. He's been very honest about it. Being off the field on the field. I kept thinking of like i don't know just like the reaction to him and i think the way. People are rooting for him when they were bully against him and seemed to really enjoy his His fall last season But this is a story. I think people can really get behind and galaxies. What six points. I was really skeptical because no pavonis thereto needs service. And i was like how are they going to get the ball to him and i think victor aska's we saw his quality on that ball. They played into teacher ito. And then there's this other x factor of just finding the ball. Just he doesn't necessarily doesn't necessarily perfect service when he's confident he just able to sniff out chances. And even that first one where it's like it's a tough angle and maybe last year. He misses that one. I mean he was missing much easier chances than that. But it was a tight angle. But when you're confident you can see the difference. It makes where that one falls then the next the next the next. He's on her. All your need zubac men. Even even if you don't put the ball on frame man cheetos going to be right there to put it in want gloat. Do you want to analyze the galaxy. I mean this is. This is definitely not what anyone expected. It might have been what people hope for. I definitely hope for the narrative is just running strong right now. The returned l. tree the gold cup in the world cup qualifying him and has doesn't come back in time. He can compete with henry martin or or you know certainly the other players haven't he's teacher retail this is this is what i think like certainly. Hq at hope for the jump for rato. We're going to have to put a moratorium on the narrative. I think because at this point it's just analysis right like what is he doing. Well what is happening for the galaxy. That wasn't happening last year. And i think kaelin's right the cheetos movement is crisper. More optimistic is a good way of putting it. Just that belief that you're going to the ball's gonna find you. But the other thing that movement does is it puts pressure on opposing backlines to always be aware of him and we saw that especially in the first half his movement was trying to of those three centrebacks and then with victor vazquez. He loves to drop off that line in back to the left so he loves to create those left side. Overloads via fanja would come up in engage Who was the right. Wingback for for the red bulls and then you would have zubac and vasquez out there as well so suddenly three view one will. Then you're bringing you another center. Another central midfielder. And you're bringing aaron long up there as well if you look at that second goal longest forty five yards upfield. He's not playing like a centreback so they were able to sort of scramble. The red bulls. The genesis of that isn't just having victor vazquez in central midfield and a very good left back like getting up on the overlook it's cheech thereto being in these guys heads and then as they react to that scramble up field. He's just brilliant. Finding space is brilliant. Ms what i wrote about in my column today. Is that for every great centre forward. Their underlying superpower is the ability to get into valuable spaces. The billy know where that is. We've seen it. From from wando. For dozen years. Now on the highest level from guys like robert levin dot like what is what is robert levin danski. Absolutely amazing like he's really great and a lot of things what he's absolutely amazing. It is being in the right spots. That's always been cheetos superpower to and he's shown it now in two games and it has this knock on effect of making everybody around him in that attack better and the question for the galaxy is can he also somehow make that defense better because it hasn't been great through two games and it hasn't been great on the back line you know or or in defensive midfield but they're the only team in the league with six points or two games. It is a dream. Start to the greg. Vanney era they are playing some greg vanney soccer very clearly in terms of setting tempo even against the red bulls which is usually impossible and cheeto a goes back to the word narrative we be like you gotta be a happy man light up that shrine praying but you mentioned doyle. There was a segment. I think it was leading into the second goal. Were they dominated. possession fell into like a lower tempo. Mls game which. I the red bulls in the way. Gerhard's one to play seem like it'd be impossible this year and it led to vasquez having the time and space to clip that ball over the top. And i think for vasquez what's been important is. We always knew what he could do on the ball. I don't think there was questions that he lost sight. it was. Are they going to be so overloaded. Midfield that you can't play him and that hasn't been the case two games and now i say personally. I didn't pick either of the teams. They've beaten to make the playoffs this year. So it's been a great start. But i don't think we're in like yeah. Let's talk about them as the best team in the west yet know which has been which is fine and i would say that kaelin. Kaelin talked about his first. Finish the third finish for teacher. So is that's his peak. Because as i mentioned his superpowers getting in good spots and finishing and that is above his head he gets up he hits it he wouldn't have even gone up for it last year like physically. He wouldn't have even tried it. He wouldn't been on the field. Yeah so that's the point. He's reached this year which is huge. And i think for this group the narrative in corn. But i just think you have a new coach. How did you get better from last year. How you improving. And whether they have a habit which they have six points in two weeks gives you some breathing space to figure it out now. We talked about it with winning. Tfc whatever's happening. Now that gave him some time. I think took some pressure off and now it's the same for the galaxy. I didn't have any doubts. I greg vanney would be able to go in there and and earn. The respect earned the belief of those guys. But when you talk about the coaching staff afterwards those are sort of the warm and fuzzies that just have not been there with the la galaxy the last couple of years. We didn't hear any of that sort of thing about your special out on the job was being done. You didn't have a lot on certainly coming out and saying those things. You didn't have your superstar sort of being like i don't really wanna talk about me right now. Let's talk about the other guys and what they're doing. Hey look at sasha finish and week one like it. It feels a little bit like the perfect petri dish for the galaxy to try to get back to where they wanna be. She treat those senate. We still believe. We're the biggest club in. Mls we have to prove that. But they're feels like a little bit of a cohesion in the group and just straight up belief. It's it's exciting to be back there. The people want the people want to know. Do you still think the galaxy are the biggest club in mls man. Yeah probably yes. Who would be bigger than them. I don't know the biggest club in their own city. I mean if you look at their at l. afc and what they're doing. They're still the far better team. If you look at this galaxy team even still like. They're they're far better mean we'll get to see it in a couple of weeks which now this actually feels like will add some intrigue to the whole thing is. We don't know where velez at. Hopefully he's back in healthy and we Same with rossi. But i just you know the galaxy still have some issues. Their their back line still has some question. Marks think they've improved in in net. But they have. They're playing a lot of your players to that. Are still trying to figure it out having a little bit of a learning curve even when you look at the depth pieces at the bringing in a lot of very young players african ended a good job. Dunbar's well but when you get to the bigger matches when you get to the more difficult games like it's good that they're bleeding into young players and we've seen fanny do a really good job of that with some young guys In toronto in the past. But i still think there's a gulf there and the fact is they needed to from cheeto the first match they needed three the next one and i feel like they really do emotionally. Lean on him. And his positivity. And i've been on teams where you feed the number nine you gets going and everybody gets a little bit of life off that but i do wonder if it's it's great for right now but i still think there's a a pretty big gap between them and six points at the table right now. And the best teams in the west most notably elliott. There's a difference between being the best team and being the biggest club. That's what i would say in. No way i'm my argument the galaxy or the we lesser united fan. I'm telling you that if i'm telling you in in worldwide terms. Nmls terms in this country club. That people are going to know. I over all the others is the la galaxy and that's what this signing was about. She treated was about returning them to a place. Where not only could they be that club in perception but also perhaps in reality and even more. So that's what greg vanney was about building. Does that internationally skysports asked me. First about phil neville today. We have a phil never had really good weekends measurement. so this is a new segment. Every monday kevin car comes on. What did sky sports ask you about phil neville. We'll get to phil neville. Let's just real quick look back On our our golden boot draft. Well you got the lead right now. Giguere hasn't even played and you are plus three goals on all of us re has got to. You still got carlos vela sitting back in the cut so you got two goals. I got my one robert beri. Did it stink. Justice artists might have been a poor pick giving nations league gold cup. And maybe i'm regretting that when a little bit and kaelin apologies the you. But they haven't got fiery at pekair. Joseph and bleach down pulido have zero. Golden knows takes the first six months off comes care about the dynamo culture show for the stretch run will burn out in the heat in the summer. Then he'll get some good results going to the playoffs now. Anybody has not done on red bulls before we move on here. I would not want to be a right wingback or right back. Under garrett subaru. It's like defense against the dark arts right now. Well i wanted to get cold. No laugh back right back right. He was gonna supplement like twenty five minutes in didn't then dunkin who got pulled after last game get set back on. It seems like no one. No one wants to play that position. Strimmers coach three games and easiest different formations from the start. It was a four to three one last year in the playoffs. Four four two diamond last weekend. Three five two in the first half of this when they switch back to the diamond of the second half and i thought generally speaking they were better but like this is a a roster in a team. That's very much under construction. I don't think we'll have a good idea of what they are until like june at the earliest. I don't understand playing aaron long on the right side of the three of these. Your best centreback plan. Put them in the middle most experienced. I understand he's got on the ball and you want to use them in possession and are building out but put him in the middle. Allow him to orchestrate from there. I don't think the three back system is really gonna work for them. I understand 'cause they wanna get gutman and their outside backs a little bit more advanced but just did not work. The press at times did and then also i thought freedom. I came in. And he's gonna. I think you're seeing a little bit more of him and how he might fit into that system. You played deep dropped off and was able to really facilitate but then also got isolated a couple times almost a penalty which to me. If he i'll leave that up to andrew and charlie on on you make the call or whatever but i couldn't even give it in so replay its proper respect and replay. Wow slag a. But but i think there's a lot of positive pieces at the red bull. I'd like the moves and some of the signings that they brought in the off season but it just they haven't quite figured out through thinks figured out how best to use everybody yet you ever young dp coming in. It's not area impractical. Ma you have frankie. That just got their pack midfield. A bunch of signings from last year twelve signings. This offseason work in progress influx. I think those are good races. Trap the rebel right now. No win so far. Probably no panic but we shall see all right. Let's talk about it dabo. This took us twitter by storm on saturday night. I mean this is it. I don't know what the right Adjective described. As i mean i was gonna say fun Potentially frustrating depending on your point of view certainly dramatic certainly petty Let's just i'll walk you through the whole situation if you missed it just just real quick bear with oiled and i'll you have Have your say here are southern. Play week one are so go to minnesota minnesota last four nothing to seattle in week one. So minnesota has their home opener against the team that we all basically said you know. Take take analysis. Mls in preseason with a grain of salt that we said was going to be at the bottom of the west and probably at the bottom of the standings overall two goals for our sell a comeback over minnesota are so win davidoff joa who took some shtick from fans for all reports throughout the game remember. They're not full capacity and stadium so domino is not dealing with a lot of like white noise here. He can hear what's being said behind him in the past. If you know minnesota united fans or minnesota thunder fans or whatever it might have been in the past. Iteration the nsl. They were known for doing. Opposition research on their goalkeepers opposing goalkeepers and heckling extremely effectively said goalkeepers. My expectation is. They hack they probably were heckling. Dabo throughout this match endowed show gave back incident. it was. you're the other show. And you're not as good as the i in gaul and stuff like that. This is like when i played against new england. They would generally not have the hugest crowd. And you could. You could hear specific things from fans on the sideline and whereas like seattle. You can't use here. You can't even hear the person next to you but it was worth. It was worth when you can hear front support. You re remember any in particular. That doesn't really hit you in the core. I think it was mostly just cheap helmet jokes by. Yeah when you hear personally. You're like oh man. That's tough to swallow. Anyway w joe has been known in uso and other levels To be a bit of a us talking about the dark arts their dave. He has a little bit of that in him. He's willing to mix it up a little bit too in a lot of that in a lot of to waste a little time you saw it with the chase gaspar instant at the end where he goes down. He's holding his ribs chase. Gaspar barely touched him and at the end of this game are so one donald show it turned around and booted the ball into the wonderwall and minnesota united. We're not happy about it including a chose you twenty-three teammate Dotson came over and was pushing him. Team adrienne came steaming. The the box. And after the game adrian heath had this to say under skewed up go just turned on the ball and our farms into a jealous support is which as no. We'll know that just got so magical on him for a kid who's thought that good. Whoa yeah just. I mean he. He dropped that one on a lot of emotions. Running high here for anywhere else was asked about that comment in his postgame press conference he was kind of like. Hey we support david. We know as growth with him but we think is really great player. We stand behind him. I'm not gonna comment on what other people say it's the heat of the moment game etc etc. I mean that's the long the short of it. Though i didn't experience this one live. I had the joy of going back in and combing through all the twitter conversation on the plays. Give me your take on everything that happened here. Who were the villains. What roles that people play who is in the right. Who was in the wrong. Was anybody in any of those places or is this just pure petty dramatic fun pure page dramatic fund. Nobody was in the wrong it. Almost everybody was in the right showa on top of likely being heckled for the entire game. This was his first ever win as an mls goalkeeper. He's only played one other game before the last game last season they lost that one. This is first game since that colossal error in kaka olympic qualifying. Jetting the win in this one was. I'm sure a just massive relief. He might punted the ball into the stands. Anyway away like they didn't have to be any heckling. Like you're you're gonna celebrate something like that. And i loved to see his emotion in celebrating it. And the after's were hilarious. And adrian heath is completely within his rights to burn the kid post game because right now is not that good he like. We saw the error in honduras in olympic qualifying and we saw through olympic qualifying while. He's a very good shot stopper. He's questionable with his feet and he's prone to bobbling catch like he. He bobbled the ball. Lot happened twice in this game. Minnesota were not on their toes and they did not burn him. They did not punish him for either of those jobs so he has he has to better. But he's a talented twenty year old goalkeeper getting his first woman so it was awesome minnesota united fans in my twitter mentioned specifically complaining about a show of punting the ball into the stands saying somebody could have gotten hurt. That team took twenty three shots to were on goal. If you've been putting the ball into the stands is going to hurt somebody have a chat with your forwards because that route two games. That is the story for minnesota united and we should be talking about that and not this post game because of all the teams that we thought were pretty pretty good to start this year. It's minnesota united. Who had the worst start. And that's been overshadowed. i mean. Look the they did come out. The players did came out really defended their fans. It's a shame they didn't defend our much of anything especially on the break in this game. They gave two goals to oursel Like i to me. This was marino moment for adrian. Heath it was a deflect moment so instead of all of us talking about as you said how minnesota united was this much fancied team who have spent big on rhino. So and who went out and got one. Chopin went out and got another big forward from lagoon before this game. We're talking about davos. Showa kicking a ball high up into the stands instead of two losses in two games. And they're being real uncertainty about what minnesota united are doing and whether it's going to be effective in some ways it's brilliant the good news for cellist. Next three matches are at home. So i don't think he's done himself any favors. Because if you're an opposing supporters group and you're coming to the next match you basically he basically you're gonna get like you can get in my head like and i'm going to be play. I'm not only playing against the eleven men on the pitch. I'm playing against y'all behind me to and that's what. Supporters thrive on. They wanna get a piece of that for from everything. I've heard about it showa. That's what he wants. This is like he has potential to be the biggest villain in this league. Since stephen leonard like just like beloved in his his home fans and just loathed at. We're in the league as reaction to the minnesota goals like try and get the ball so they don't chase it out then it gets knocked out of his hand just goes down. Grabs a body part covers his face. The whole thing's going on and he was kind of doing it throughout although i still don't see as much malice everyone's trying to give like the end of the game. He already had in his hands. Ref blows the whistle. He's going to punt. It signed the ball and locked into the crowd. Like roger. Federer china keep everyone engaged in entertainment. I can't i came out of it. I can't back this. I saw feeling lofted clip to the top of the wonderwall. I'm trying to think of real salt lake players in the past like beckerman. It'd be there. They've got some epic trash talkers in in their club's history players. That will get in your face getting your ear. Whatever it is throughout the whole match. And i think there's reaction after the match was was deserved right. You see him pumping his fist. He's jacked up if you wanna go. Even goalkeepers as game ended walk right by men. Make sure that you hear them. Celebrate or you can see it. And i think that's all fair game once you start kicking the ball in the crowd. You start doing things like that now. Suddenly the conversations around you as opposed to your you know the team's win. I can't really. I don't think it's a good sign. I think it's a young. Two young goalkeeper. Obviously goalkeepers are wired. Different we all know that. But i just i. I can't say that it's a i if you has an ambitious being a big time goalkeeper in this league as well as a taught him to after the next road game. I would love to see him do it after feeling that this is like a. Wwe character just like aliens about killings about to write about why he doesn't want to go to disneyworld any somebody to play the hearing in here. I didn't realize that john terry was on extra time. Now wait a game. She played god. I will say this for minnesota. it's been bad. The first two games a lot of the things you mentioned having been there. Bromont ramadan abdallah doesn't trust for this game Agent who knew who's in his prime dp striker from legal and isn't even here yet and debiasi hasn't been available for them as their starting centerback. That's not even talking about. I really gonna talk about him for a while now. So this is a group that it's been really bad in these first two games but a lot of the pieces that you talked about a lot of hype hasn't been around so the question i think now is can they keep themselves from sinking into something before they're all available because if they're negative fifteen goal-differential everyone's losing their minds and they have no support and there's no culture around the team by the time these guys get in that's the real fear for them but otherwise i still think you look at this game a true center forward that they spent a lot of money on. They'd be creating more chances than they'd have more opportunities. I think i think minnesota's gonna be fine to be honest with you. I think though through two games the my biggest takeaway with them is just the lack of the ball dynamism from their wingers. And if you go back and you look at that stretch run then into the playoffs but bello was the best player the key to it. But like kevin molina was amazing. He was amazing and like even finley's of really good winger rubbing lewis. I think is a very good winger. Different types of guys like finley just wants to run in behind take one or two touches is not going to beat anybody off the dribble Low doesn't have that type of pace. They miss the ability to just eliminate defenders on the ball that kevin molino had And they're gonna if they're going to make the type of run this year that they made last year. I think that is going to be the biggest thing that they have to figure out. Overall minnesota's fine. They're still a going to be a solid playoff in this year unless there are injuries or something goes spectacularly wrong frank upon continues to be a name linked with them cincinnati jumped into that but now that seems more like probably an agent play in some way than anything else to try to drive it up as he was scoring goals in argentina. Of course it wouldn't have What how do you fit all these players on the field like you gotta abused or it's so it's two forwards and then what i maybe it might be two forwards in the bellow in like a four three one two. You know because you you could play like the four three one two. You put know we'll trapped in the middle and then gregor's and dotson on either side of him or ozzie in the middle in gregson dotson on the other side like you have those types of guys and then does it. Relegate the likes of load in finley Justin mcmaster pricing has been pretty good three games. Does it relegate them to like bench roles or second half changed the formation type of thing. Yeah but like that's the way it is now analyst. Good teams have depth. Good teams flexibility and the ability to change shape. But i i. I'm not like i'm not betting that they're going to change away from the four to three one because we saw how effective that was for them last year but it does seem like. They're edging towards having real flexibility and personal formation in even tactical approach above a sidestepped. One of the things that's changed as like one. I don't know that they were sure they were going to get done. And so you have a chance to bring ramona and but it's on loan so that's not your guy that's not the guy you have to ride by and the other thing is he's thirty one he didn't start week one. He's not even available week too so you don't know how often you even have both of them as an opposite right now they take any of them just to put someone in there that's not swag shut swags legend so that has to change because this is one of the things you talk about. How does kevin molina fitness columbus. He's not even available and those artists might be gone for how long for national but all this stuff like these are the things you need to be able to compete nemo last week in and week out. Our people didn't believe in them. We were among those people and a lot of ways rightfully so the club is in a place. Where there's a lot of uncertain. Just leave it at. It was a really good week. Wine are sal. Fun congrats to being back in the season. They got stuck with the by Week one in. Mls they get away when they get a big two goals from the guy they brought in on loan their biggest edition awesome start for ourselves looking forward to seeing it as we roll on so i will just ended on this. I think there's a little bit of like mind games. Masterclass from adrian heath and all that post-game stuff to sort of shift the conversation. Because you are right. This is not the complete team they don't need to be talking about how how poor it's been so far. If they can kinda kick that can down the road and get players back. They may never need to have that conversation. The flip side is perfect for our cell that even get a week one. There's nothing to talk about because they weren't playing now. They have headline news. Like this is the sort of thing if you're a sports fan in utah you see this and you're like screw those screw those guys in minnesota. This is our squad doubt. Show our guy. This is our team. We're back baby oursel- so yeah we'll see. Do you feel revelry break. I don't know man. We have this morning. Kansas city are s. l. stuff here. What happened preseason. Maybe they were kicking each other in preseason if they played no idea but this is how some of that little onfield stuff get started. All right let's keep it rolling here austin. Fc or what do you think. What's the bigger story Let's go with austin f. i Because this is their first ever win and in most weeks that would lead the show but with teacher ito scoring a hat trick and davi going supernova We bumped it down to third austin a really good soccer against against colorado and it was born of this sort of commitment to positional play From from josh wolff and it has played out like we thought it would exactly like we described last week where it like it's it's rigid it's all very scripted. And the good thing about having a script where you know if the ball is here and the run is over here. I'm making a run over here. Moving like it ends up looking very very fluid very quickly as long as everybody's on the same page and in this game in the second. Half everybody in austin on the same page and they just rick colorado apart they were able to send so many runners into the box creating all types of angles creating all types of chance chances and eventually creating three goals that were all frankly really well deserved and they did it without. Thomas pochettino It was it was impressive. His handwriting has an map easier. Yeah and i think beasley is a big one. Because he's supposed to be the one with good feet in the back who's kind of making everything. Work had a tough preseason as kind of a tough. Mls career in general. You didn't really see it. And i'd say two point of the scripting and the confidence in the system. I wouldn't say they were bad. But it was a tough first half for them and colorado press them pretty hard in the first twenty minutes and also didn't really have a ton of possession openings and they kept going and kept going and kept going in all broke for them as the game went along. Which for a team. That's two weeks into their existence is awesome and diego. The man in austin is the team will always be associated to the rest of his life. I remember watching like seventeen year. Old diego score rebel arena. Many many moons ago by the way might not in this game because of the birth of his third child. Congratulations to him from the dead hive. Yeah po- poetry scene interesting one. We don't know why he wasn't this game. Apparently something to do with his registration won't follow that story a little more closely ceylan. You're wearing the hat you got the cap on your verde. You got the tree emblazoned on your forehead here. What is a win like this for a new team. And what did you see in this game. Which it's huge. And i think for i think part of it is the goons one was interesting to me too because he is exactly the type of profile of a guy that you want to go out and see that is in one place but isn't playing but it's still young with a lot experience and a lot of quality he looked good even just outside of The goal and i knew this austin team under wolf was going to have was going to be good with the ball The way the way. He's the teams. He's been a part of the systems that he was going to implement. New concede some players. He was bringing in. But they're actually better than i expected without the ball. So far they've been they're able to turn over Impress in certain points The frequent as he actually makes a play to turn over the ball. I believe on the second goal where he turns it over and they kind of go right down their throat So they're able to press and pick their moments at times to to be pretty good without the ball but So it was impressive and for expansion team. You need a little bit of belief and say that okay. This is working. We get some. We get some goals. We get You know we get a win and you know i think the have that now because it's one thing if you have a system that you're implementing throughout preseason. You don't really know what's going to look like when you start going against an meaningful matches but now you say okay. Well this these patterns are working able to kind of especially with the kind of tuck in and getting those sort of inbetween spaces and we're able to drive directly at the back line and then find a space on the whip. Nine crashed the box. So it gives them simply. I think that will take Take wolf and his System into next match you see what. Danny pereira right. He's a rookie. Did not look like a rookie. Hasn't the first two games what especially in this game. Which can i take this over to the side which is not left-back. None of them are central midfielders without him. Like you can't tell me not. Having left back is worse than not having central midfield and coverage there and it's been brutal to watch for two games and it's like cola. Kaelin have having play there. It's left back for central midfield. Like the entire game is being lost there and i. I know i will bow cars out. And they've got other pieces missing along the back line they don't really have a backup leftback coming into the season i guess beta shores out as well but it just feels like throw someone out there and see what happens rather than annihilate your own midfield and carolina has a terrible start. The season and nominees had a bad start to the season and rubio's had start to the season all because of this. It's been like this whole cascading effect from mukasey play left-back look some concern for colorado one point through two games there one of those teams that we looked at in the preseason with that results and said we're really hopeful here. This could be a really really good team. There are still question marks for them and those question marks haven't gone away so far. Congratulations though to awesome. Congratulations to to you. matt doyle. David goss two goals for you guys. The opener for oil the second goal for god's sakes yes that's true i was more good added a third to the didn't quite get that show. He had thought about like you know. Once you get the double vacs life going down to miami and seeing if you can get into any clubs or least try that. I think i think i would need about a quintupled vacs to go to miami anyway. Inter miami won their first game of the season. Two one in philly revenge for the brothers against The union certainly who got the like the fortnight dance in the face from jacob last year when he skied a pk and his very first mls game phil neville was jack devout at sky. Sports was jacked about it. You know those highlights plan. I mean this. This was a nice win for them. You can't put any other way to go to philly. The supporters shield Defenders a team that has looked very very good this year and has a big opportunity this weekend. Capped champions league these the as we talk about belief and as we talk about sort of building something from the beginning for phil neville to look around the locker room and not and for the walker and look back and say okay. We're on to something. This is working and you had pieces. I think of guys who were part of the struggles last year. I think this is the best game. I've ever seen fee and but like guys like that where it's like. Yeah it'll get better. It'll get easier credit to phil neville. Who struggled with substance game one to be super aggressive and bring on jay chapman which helps lead to that second goal and brings on brings myself on as well a little bit later on to make things happen so wait. We're going to interrupt you right there. What is the difference in this team. When it's people playing is a number. Ten as opposed to rodolfo. Pizarro and that is the thing that i think we're gonna have to tease apart over the course of this year because people's real he'd his skill set in his ability to find space. Amplifies the skills of everybody around him. It's always done that in. Mls you know going back eight nine years now. He's ro is wonderful on the ball. And i thought he was really really good last week. But he's an you've talked about his time david like he. He's never been the type of guy who knits it entire team together and to me. What was missing that first hour. Was that an difference in the last. Half hour was people's ability to not just a range his team with the ball but to kind of break the diamond a little apart a little bit by taking up really good spaces and getting in the periphery of like jose martinez or getting. Just over the shoulder of alibaba. I think that's something that we're going to have to like. I'm going to go back and watch that second half again after the show. Because i wanna have a better grasp on what changed particularly with that sub for the last four years. Think it's been people egoyan campaign ninety but every team that he plays for his better when he's on the field and it was the case for dc and it was a case columbus at the end. Do but it's also why you've probably constructed rosser poorly because you need someone who can give you a full amount of minutes to do the things he doesn't that's not taking it away from him like he's phenomenal and he's as you said he's a genius. I ve seen when you go see him. Play live the way. He covers ground silent silent as line. The ball i've never seen anyone in. Mls do it like he does and he doesn't care if he gets it or not. He knows what he's doing to the other team shape whether he touches the ball or not. So it's awesome to see and we'd be narrative man consolidate wayne's got two goals in two games. Look he had it in them the whole time. One of my favorite moments this season so far is the two brothers trying to find each other and the pile to celebrate like after federico. Scores that goal gonzalez like digging through the guys on top of me was like this. Is my brother man. Like i should be the first one to be here another thing. I notice from this game. And honestly the last game to robbie robinson looks much better but gonzalo higuain body language in regards to robbie robinson passing him. The ball is incredible. They could be on the other side of a ten foot wall and gonzalo be like you didn't see me man. What the hell like. I'm right here. Pass me the ball. The instance where he went off the bar with it. There's three guys in the way gonzala. There's no passing lane. Robbie camp find you. Let him take the shot on. He almost scored and he's just not having it. He's like no my feet every time. Robby if you don't know that you don't understand the way this team works. Congratulations kaelin kaelin. Was like how you not passing the ball. You're i'm caitlyn car more like that. And i know you see me. The hairs bouncing around clock man. Come on taylor. You feel when you watch. Tfc now and jane. nelson's doing it with the hair. Do you feel like maybe you're watching yourself a little bit. You forget sometimes from brampton. I don't know if that's his. He's a toronto guy. Only did it for you know. But i do think that that is a little bit of an issue between them and not just from the standpoint of the body language part but just finding a way for those to connect and it goes back the conversation of of or zorro pizarro. Yeah it where you're like. I think fits better with robinson. Because he's a guy that's going to drive and he likes the ball his feet and it's going gonna slip players in and use their mobility around them but whereas people more going to like you know find the soft spots and then try and find you know curl early curl or early curling balls in So i think I don't know just the pieces of the way the roster is is setup still don't quite always fit and robinson and eglin don't seem to connect so much where the playing robinson more as a winger or i feel like you. He's not necessarily like a left winger. wants to run a guy's face up and find the ball in jordan morris. Type waves seen play. That role just hasn't quite looked right yet. So i thought the idea would be Have him come in as a second forward of the wing. 'cause lewis morgan's the production down the right and you're getting with from the fullbacks. Why in the first game and scouts. They did get a bunch of space for jovan jones. Yeah to get into lesson this game because you're on the road against philli you don't have that much of the ball you're turning it over every other second because while they did win two one. They didn't look great throughout this game and create a ton of opportunities. So it's weird. I thought they looked better in the first hour ago. The galaxy and then bad in the last half hour this one they they look kind of bad in the first hour and pretty good in the last half hour because it could have been three one. Andre blake had to make this spectacular save but his epic save for philly. I like that wasn't a great final thirty minutes. And and i think that jim curtain has probably already watched it three times and probably figuring out what's going wrong but to me. It's more like they had so much of the ball. In the first hour they created the different necessarily creating a ton of chances but they were getting into good spot and then the final ball. Just wasn't there a got to figure that out. You know when you watch guy and you're like not productive but i don't care i'd pay to watch this guy every day. Sergio santos on that list for me like he's awesome. He's aggressive pretty much. Rarely come to anything. And i'm like i'm here for all day. Sergio also galen jason nelson. Tfc website says hometown brampton new heaven match made in heaven more about the union. We hit the previews here in just a little bit. We have to get our twenty two hundred twenty two player the weekend. It is cade cal. Got the outside of the buddhist cyst. Big three one win for san jose against dallas. He had just an absolute filthy filthy goal. Like matt hedges. Who i put in my early running for defender of the year. Got rid of ziggler on this play. Like he's going the opposite. I mean he. He doesn't aware he's going faints from cow. The footwork is incredible. It makes you think about what one does been saying for. Basically a year and a half. Now which is that. The kid is built different game week. One was not a shining moment for either the quakes arcade cal but this is more of sort of seeing the potential for him to seventeen the he's younger than katie clark. His he's incredible. Somebody's do the stat up there. I can't remember like in twenty twenty six. Those guys are gonna be twenty three and twenty two or something like that. Just unbelievable unbelievable. I showed him about my call. I know that you were were pushing cows while and and really watched him closely. What did you see in this matrimonial. I picked him to win. Twenty two under twenty two the show whatever. That was our preview. I said he was going to win. Two thousand two hundred twenty two the thing kate cowl in the da and then you even last year when he started getting some real minutes for for san jose He as a youth player. He was a goal machine Last year even when playing on the on the wing. I don't wanna say he only had eyes for the goal but he was kind of locked did on getting into the final third specifically getting into the box and being dangerous that pass blew my mind that is like that he was damn near at a full sprint and his full sprint. Who's really fast. This is jordan morris level athlete air and he hit an outside of the boop inch perfect through ball that caught five defenders out of the play and gave his star winger a one on one with the keeper that like. I have never seen the only men's us men's soccer player. I've seen hit. That pass is landed non of it. I like there. There are a lot of great passer like benny fail. Harbor through all artists. He hit it with the instep. He didn't hit with the outside. Was boot sasha question could hit the threw balls with the outside of his boot but he wasn't doing it at a full sprint in. I love sasha but his full sprint was not kate cows full sprint. Like this. pass this past Like very rare that you see one play. That forces you to completely re conceptualize what you think. A player is capable of having this pass in your repertoire. Just completely erases what i thought. Was kate. cowles seal. Like it's incredible. Pass it's a kevin debris level pass and won the game for san jose. Doyle's best eleven of players. This past daza does not reminded me. But i think you're right and the other thing too if you look at the goal to because i've seen them play here and there in those moments and you see first thing he stands out as the guy does not look seventeen. He's is like yo. He's he's an incredible athlete right. Any looks very immature. And he's fast but he's super fast and at times it seems like he would either like you know crushable ball. He can strike a great ball. And he's he was dangerous but what he showed in the pass trademark by doyle as well as the goal to. Was that little bit of composure. Two in the box where for young players especially especially in the box things moved very fast right and you have to have a sense of what's around you. It's all coming around really quickly and going against experience defenders and it was not one faint and then the second one extra little bit of a pause to set it up on his left foot and an curl it in so i think yeah as were sort of reimagine what he what he could be. I think it was actually both plays that that stood out to say that and that happens with seventeen year olds right like you don't really know. Remember yeah i remember. I was talking to a lucia gonzalo news. Like how do you know when a guy is ready to play. Was talking about ricardo. Peppy got this week off the bench and he was like you you kinda. Don't you just have to try it. And let them play in. And then you figure it out and maybe you discover and learn something new sounds like the quakes have known a little bit for a while From some of the comments around cow but You're seeing it in action now. Two straight starts mater trusting a seventeen year old trusting the youngest starter in. Mls to go out and do the job and he went out and did it Gianluca buccio has been trusted. A lot of different places by peter vermes carter happy scored in that games. Yeah we said that. Say this real quick. Because i know the quakes people will yell at me. If i don't the the huge thing for the quakes here was they got a really good win. Without goodson playing in central midfield which i think a lot of people thought was going to be impossible for them this year. So just like getting that performance out of ramadi Like i jud since still going to be the starter there when he's one hundred percent fit but this was this was a big big ninety minute win for for san jose man back on the bench so that's came in at the end and and played a little bit right back but like it's the quakes are much better than people have given them credit for and they love johnson. There is no doubt about that. There's no fan base that loves her defensive midfielder and stands for more than quakes fans and jud's gentle guebuza started at the ninety got moved back in the second half and pluto came on to more of a ten sporting kansas city tied one one with orlando city props to the The referee crew on this one at a couple of difficult. I think three different offside plays to make calls on and i got them all right. So that's what you want from them. As well from the process vessel backheel goal from ninety orlando city where the better team sporting kansas city. Still incomplete but the flipside is minnesota's. Incomplete has two losses sporting. Kansas city are incomplete and are just sort of weathering that storm. Would you see from buccio in this game. Guys who had who had sort of strong strong take on the goal was really nice. He set it up near post full. say which. I don't think i wouldn't have seen that coming to be honest But he's not nineish. He's not a nine now so i was. I didn't watch this game in real time on friday night. It was out with some friends. Having some drinks and i was getting nothing but buccio. Slander texted to me from andreas. So that's that's my mic. Wow under it's possible. He doesn't affect the game at all. He can't find anything then. He scores at the end of the first half and then apparently in the second half he moves to the number ten and he's much better of course pollino being in there as the nine has a lot to do with our tommy scoops. Tom bogaerts reporting that kid. City has already rejected a couple offers from sarah teams for general caboose. Yahoo is eighteen one of the youngest starters animals at this point as well. Where do you think he settles in this team. They have a lot of options. I wondered where he would get playing time especially if gotti kinga beyond the field at all times and he would be number ten as well in the situation and you have a lot of guys with big experience of the six and eight and right now it looks like roger and rimi are going to be those guys like where does gianluca buccio if you want to sell him if you want to give him the playing time that he needs but also he can affect your team while where does he play for the with full strength with johnny russell's back when toledo is back is why i think there's two things one is. He's a young player and you want to get him on the field so he's gonna play every position. I think the rest of this year like he is the piece that whenever anyone missing or whenever you need to fill in. He gets the opportunity. But i don't know that kim does locked in i understand it was a big signing. Was messy in this game in big moments where he could have helped set them into that final third or help trapped the ball over the top and start the attack thought struggled in this one. I enjoy watching him play. But he's not a pure chance creator as well so i think between him roger. There's minutes to be had in midfield because you've got a lot of different pieces that can sort of do similar things and so they can help each other. It doesn't have to be what we need this. Peer guy roger. Because of what he nearly do or condemn wall. So i think there's a ton of minutes in that rotation in those midfield three shadowy assists. Just wanna throw it out there since you the peppy training shall we train here Can we take anything but samuel salary like forty this point. No come on tommy townsend. He's one of the most eligible bachelors in kansas city. We used to run the tommy thompson hype train when he had like a shot in the field because he couldn't get a shot on goal for four and a half years. Don't bring that up. Don't bring that up anything to take seattle. I really pumped up but a lot of guys out no fellow in with days off the jump right one having fun i it was. It didn't like given the guys who were missing it kind of expected it to not necessarily live up in in. It didn't like these are two of the best teams in the west. Though the sounders look. I think much better than we all expected. Without nikola darrow. In the past five years if they haven't had darrow they've been helpless. That is not the case anymore Llc missing their entire starting front line They're starting right back. They went out there. I thought they played pretty good soccer But both teams have to play better and i think both teams will play better teams. That have something to be worried about. Fc cincinnati five cent piece goals five. Nothing loss in the bronx added seventeen million dollars on their attack. And i get it. They didn't spend a lot upgrading their defense. That has been very poor for two years. Yeah not much. Data fire are the only thing. I'll say about the five-set that's been. I've seen a lot of people talking about it. It shows some inexperienced too. Because you go to nyc afc and you know that the pitches smaller is gonna like getting thousand. Bad positions is going to cause problems. Of course right trying to play out We'll see team struggle. It's a unique challenge playing there and it was set piece after set-piece after cfius it was every different type of mistake. You can make on that piece. It was down to like the wall was set wrong. The basic zone verse man was not you know we're not in sync and then really at a certain point when it gets two three four five it becomes about competing right having a little bit of pride to say we've got we've given up three set-pieces no moss and that wasn't there either. So i thought. Cincinnati look good in the first week and this was big setback. So yeah. I don't know that that was concerning to me. A little bit of a little naive and inexperienced to know that you're going to a venue like that and it does have to change the way play. It's a roller coaster. I think for this year for cincinnati. They go up the hill. they're enjoying. It's good where are we going gonna go. We gotta draw on week one brenner and lucho scoring womb straight down straight down all right and fairness the last. Thirty minutes against nashville. The already started last the last seventy minutes. Oh boy chicago fire remained the chicago fire. The they look good and they give up bad goals. Sway goes forum. We'll talk about atlanta more. And just a second is that is that a. I guess. That's just the thing we're just gonna keep saying. I mean if they keep doing bornstein post game was like. Yeah like it's just shocking. It is still shocking. Every time to me because at times they play great soccer and they know who they are and they know what they're doing and this was a lot on shuttleworth both two of them right. they lost three one. Two of them were pretty bad from him. so. I don't know that it's on the whole team making mistakes. But they hit the post twice to like look at the build up to that second goal. Yeah there's never any pressure to the ball anywhere anywhere like in like yeah shuttleworth. He he should have done a lot better. But you if you're leading a team with forty million dollars worth of attackers out there just ping passes around you're not gonna get within five yards of them you put in your team like. They are week after week after week. What we see from the fire who has happy about montreal there atop the east four points from two games expected goals would not have them. Atop the east nashville. Beat down the door once again. I thought you some this well in your column doyle and that Yeah look what. They wanted from two games. But they're creating many more chances. Those chances are really good At some point here. I think it's go better for them now. I would also advise anybody playing the impact to take away mason toys right foot instead of letting him go for the curler with that perfect angle outside the box. So let that be a lesson to future defenders. I think it's a little harsh to say. A guy thirty yards out falling back is at a perfect angle to shot and the angle that he has repeatedly scored goals from repeatedly not just in week one when he was on his heater to that was like his vintage goal. Yeah but he had that left-footed one against l. afc. That was utterly spectacular. Well maybe you know your way. Take away both feet. How about maybe. Maybe the heater. He's on right now. We'll see if he keeps going for montreal. I also think they have a lot to be happy about four points to quality results. Good for them should have been a win. See bono save proposal comes off. The bench presses the crap out of everyone on also is so bizarre and strange itself like either way either way mantra vancouver gotta be happy Let's talk about toronto. Let's talk about all these teams and cock-up champions league. Before we get out of here. Tuesday and wednesday tuesday atlanta philly in atlanta on f s. One to the end. That's at seven. Pm central time so eight pm eastern ten pm eastern tronto cruises zule also as to all. These games are on the fox family. The only one that's f. s. To is columbus. Monteray on wednesday. That's the early game at eight thirty and ten thirty portland color. You ever since so tell though dave toronto making a big big statement with their third dp. This is huge. You teased it. i'll let you have it. It's just a little funny. Because it's the player that greg vanney is waiting for for several years many labs and they finally signed him. He's a legit chance creator off the wing. I assume he'll take over the role. That shuffle burks ad. Which is an upgrade. Is that a fair terminology there. He's shorter than japan co. We got that a lot in the mail back. The new atomic aunt coming to coming to toronto. And as i said last when we talked about it he can score himself. He can create opportunities. He's deadly in transition when you give him space. If he gets isolated one veon he can create himself. Going both ways coming inside and shooting today on line thing. Those those one view will just deadly off the dribble The issue two issues here. First of all like you said. Greg vanney has been waiting for this Was waiting for the flair for like six seven years Because he's perfect in a four to three one or four three three chris. Armas has been playing the four four two week after week after week. That's one that's two or number two. Is that chris. Armas has been pressing like. He has had that team out there. Trying to define itself via their pressure. Which i get satele does not gonna defend the. He's he's just not that guy. So i get the signing. Because he's a really good player and anytime you get a chance to to sign a really good player you know. If the money's right then then you probably make the deal. It's a weird fit. It is a weird fit from what we've seen of chris armas teams in the past. And what we think. Chris armas wants his team to be in the future. So the only thing i'll say about that is on the four four two. It seems like and that's i brought up shafiul. Berg aro is a more stay at home player. And there's with on the left side for that second that wing or whatever. You wanna call it where richie gives it on the right side and delgado or asarco kind of rotates in a third central midfielder in those places and then you also have right now. You don't know what your health is up top. So maybe he plays where. That plus willow nobel whatever spot is in that. But i think it will fit in. Okay the pressing will be interesting. But that's kind of your expectation from your coaches. If you create a culture around it bring it. But i will say and you say you know. It's a good player. Santos is in those moments. We talked about a little bit with surprising. Cincinnati of like seeing the whole world stage. Where is there an opportunity. And you're looking at a club in brazil that struggling right now and there's a chance to get a guy that maybe tfc wasn't going to get and we saw with like it's just there might be an opening there. Let's get in this conversation and see what happens and now you get a player that a lot of the reaction is like. Oh i thought his next move was going to be two x top five top five league in europe and instead it's not of c. Which is huge. And i give credit. Tally curtis in his group. To just understand what's going on understand the environment and staying involved until they get it done by the way son's has announced one but toronto. Fc haven't so it's not official official but it's feeling south say semi-official. Let's say let's get in the weeds on these games before we get out of here. We'll start with atlanta philly and doyle. You had some thoughts on the way. Atlanta played this weekend. How do you see this particular match up. Coming up. On tuesday yet defensively. It was it was a little weird from atlanta. Look at their pressure chicago. Almost all coming up the middle. The emerson heinemann covered tana ground. Got pressure to the ball all the time and he you know he's playing in central midfield with sosa and barco and sosa embark over second and third or second and fourth on the list the sandra lopez who started at centre forward. He got pressured to the ball ton as well that i mean it's weird. It's a weird distribution of where you're getting pressure to the ball. Usually you see a couple of winger sneak in there as well especially for a team that plays a four to three one or four one. Four one i guess more for for what we've seen from atlanta I don't know how that's gonna work against the diamond. I know that you want to blow the diamond apart. I know that you want to make it a wide diamond because once you stretched out like that. It's easier to get the ball to to folks in have spaces I'm kind of fascinated by this. I i i was thinking before. I was thinking before this weekend. That philly were pretty clear. Favorites but then philly weren't great An atlanta played probably their best played probably their best ever easily their best ninety minutes of the year. They looked like none of that. I thirty minutes. They had against alloa walensa where they looked really good and then they got the red card. Obviously everything change. It was like those thirty minutes. That's what we got for about seventy against the fire. They play like that against philadelphia. They i mean. I'm not gonna call him favorites but this this series of tasha. I'm hoping that drives you nuts in the attack with atlanta though still drives you nuts like you watch them play in. Its barco and space. It's marino out wide. Neither of them either have the right decision at the end or want to even take the opportunity and then it's like if jake rooney's going to try it works out for them because no one else is a lot of times and so even when and then jake mulvaney. We gotta get the man's name right after that dribble that he. I mean that was. Yeah i mean you gotta you gotta get it in there. Get the sound. Because that's prime. I exalt on there. I mean he took the whole damn thing anyway. I'm hoping that delivery for kaylynn four. Mls teams in the semi-finals. Probably not going to get that. You have three really. That are the one two and four right now in the table in mexico cruises you'll monterey in america america loss for the first time in a long time this weekend to to lucas. Hey that's a good sign for the timbers and the timbers are pretty good they beat houston dynamo this weekend and temperatures played while fine resume early. Tim yeah rest them up. Rest a much depth off. Who do you think is best chance of getting through toronto columbus portland columbus. We still think it's columbus from both sides. Right monterey have the most deficiencies from league side and the most opportunity and then columbus is the deepest team and they're molest cup reigning champion so there still the favourite. I i still feel that. There's a good opening for portland to sit deep and absorb pressure and hit on the counter. I don't i feel better about if jeremy a bogus. He was healthy and had been playing the last few weeks to be that center forward But i still feel pretty good about them. I think one of the big question marks for me with them is defending from those fullbacks. And so if you sit in deep are they tracking runners. And if if club. America's able to start to set up some triangle knocking around the edge of the boxes. I do worry about both them but at the same time. Then rankin is a league. Max veteran and this is why you bring a player like that in to understand this opponent understand this moment. I like portland. I'm in the game. Most interested to watch the portland america match that that's the one. I think i'll be watching the closest and portland also in. I think against mary tone. Looked like incredible to me in the last round. So i i like that. Charles firing diana spree a are he was he. He got another goal this weekend. Look confident And then i think they. They're solid in the back soup rituals rested on the weekend. i think came in to the match Same with eric williamson. So they're going to be fresh williamson. Kind of awesome off the wing. Like let him do whatever he wants. And then the games really fun for him. I know i know. I know america's a big side. But i think there might be something in this for for portland still must be honest with ourselves. How many do we really see getting through again. I know. I know. I've been the wet blanket but i'm not trying to be here. I'm just trying to ask a very the pertinent question for mls teams for every team in this competition. Who's going to advance. How many do we see going through. We have one. We known him all seems getting through atlanta. Phillies you've got one. How high would you go realistically into. I feel comfortable saying to. I'd be very excited if it was three But it's hard to see Portland or tfc and for tfc thought. It was an okay. Game against vancouver is to set be set-piece goals that they gave up and you saw as more players getting healthy. Sorry oh comes back in and a pre so didn't start this one but they sat on the broadcast that it was the big game. He would have been okay to place. It'll be interesting to see what they do in there But eight toronto feels like there's still a step away from that just because of the injuries and all that But they were able to do it against loan which. I don't think that this is that much different of a match up at the same time. They gave up like eighty big. Chances against leoneknown can finish south basically. That's my way of saying. I have no idea to every single day of the week. We'll see what we get knife between the teeth. Boys go and get some results in the in the region for us all right. F s one. Nfs to to the and his well. Tuesday and wednesday do spaces. What do you. What do you think it on that. It's pretty late man. Well if you're up late maybe maybe if if people whose zoo and then that will probably take that decision. Either your hands watch Mattdoyle seventy six on twitter to see if that spaces pops up on your twitter up all right dave. Let's get to the mailbox so we got a lot of canada loved right now. Obviously toronto duck jack for the second atomic aunt coming in as we talked about. And then we've got a fan interest. Really enjoyed watching. Cfm which is clubbed foot montreal. The team setup is such that when every player plays within themselves the style thought movement is achievable and the team succeeds. There are also lots of fun. Any given player decides to play outside of themselves. Finally let the record show that add a positive feeling winter. Donald came on like an only think of his ridiculous lobbed goal last year. When seeing georgie making the wide open. I could hear her titles. Inner monologue saying layoffs are so cliche. I this is a great start for clubbed foot montreal. And for over nazi. I mean this is the we talk about. Belief a lot on this show because it's still early and teams are finding out who they are but know david said over and over in preseason that if a team tries hard. mls there's an equaliser there and this team at the very least looks like they're gonna play for each other so i think that's something that the people montreal. It's not just that we clearly is that. Let me just say but They're they're they're playing a very like nobody's out of position everybody's playing in what is clearly the best position or something close to it and so i think it's made the ability just everyone almost everyone right your guy mahela vets. Yeah i mean. I think he's better playmaking left wing But he's been good through two games as the kind of number ten And he like look. He's the best. Transcript on that team so you want him in that position he's a dp now as well So you kind of want him in that position where he's getting all over the ball on the final third so i. I think that has made it easier for montreal to get on the same page. But they do have to start like they're not going to score to bangers every game they have to start generating stuff. It's a little bit more repeatable than they have to figure. Out how to tighten up defensively because who boy they were holding on for dear life other some survival going on their thing. National had three expected goals and much had point six. Yeah yonder kadi's and tiny muktar. They both scored but they both could have had two or three like this was this was like exactly what we talked about with nashville is like this team can be really good but a lot of that depends on how good there are going to be in so far. They've been okay. Wrandell album pretty good. That guy's pretty good at soccer david. Skokie said i was gonna comment earlier in the year and say that we shouldn't ever promise a drink no matter how remote the possibility that the fire would make the playoffs. But i think it's clear that he won't be doing any such self harm. This season over the course of the first signed on for pain baby i signed on for and i decided that i was just gonna i was gonna put my heart behind the fire because i wanted it to be better knowing that very well could possibly really opposite. Which is you have no belief in them to drink the milward. I'm good with drinking. that's fine i can. I can do that like i'll do that quicker than they'll defend a lead in the last fifteen minutes so we'll be good. We'll be good. We'll be good. I don't think i'm have to drink it anyway but It's rough times for fire fans. I i don't. I don't envy what they're experiencing a at the end of games right now and last year raphael wicky. His team's manager only made one sub this week. In the still. Have five subs. Because of everything that's gone on around the world. He wanted to know which team you think has the biggest advantage by having that and also why are they only making one so That's interesting. I mean you would think it would. Just it would be teams. That are going to exert a lot physically especially in the summer months and into the second half of the season i think they're probably less advantage right now than there will be when the games come thicker and faster and the conditions. Get more difficult to plan kaylin. I would be curious what you think here as a player known that they're five subs available whether you're a starter or bench player coach that change the way people start to think about roles on the team if at all well it's interesting because you still do. See some coaches not using. Even they're three and you go through and it's like you people. I think when this rule came out people were saying like oh. This is going to fundamentally change. The way games are managed. It can be some people in at halftime. Really hasn't happened that way. It's really stayed pretty much. True to form It does give you a little bit. And i think the other thing is due to the longer off season right now when i'm watching games i'm still seeing a lot of players cramping going down. You know even the players that are are hitting like thereto in full match shape yet and Some coaches have been really honest about that dc. United said coach. Same with inter miami. There's been a bunch of managers that have come out and said so. I think early in season it makes more sense to rotate I mean obviously for the clubs that are playing in champions league but I don't think it's going to change that much. Overall as far as the way teams are managed mainly because managers. Don't trust everybody on the bench or donut. Don't trust everybody in every situation yet coaches. I've seen do it. Well i think greg vanney is done it really well in the first match against inter miami. I felt like that made the difference. Ostra question comes on and gets the goal dunbar. Who's been good. He's trusted the young players effort alvarez on these guys coming on us match Saldana to do well so It can make a difference in points on the table if you use it correctly. And i think coaches probably look to specially earlier on in the season but some coaches sorry. It's hard changing so we've got an essay from fc. Cincinnati fan can. Can we distill it into the hypothesis. I don't need to essex. I have a pretty good feeling essay. Might say i don't know there's so much emotion behind. It feels so harsh so it's from. Ken tucker shout out to him. Basically saying it feels like expansion year three and he said nine camp went out and address the offense during the winter window and it feels like he overcorrected in my opinion biggest issue. Is the club defensively. Last year centreback slack speed and ability to pass out the back but their opponents on their. He'll nine can't remove watson garza into plane all. These were the right decision but did little to provide replacements. Outside of matsushita. I pray via c helps. But he's only twenty one. Low expectations player alone. Reaches a nice pickup for ibac going forward but not helping much defensively. He then goes in breaks down the rest of it. Basically joe a winger starting at right back haggling. Pederson not good enough to start at center back and now they're in year. Three of this is what it feels like. But you're kubo in motto Dual pivot central midfield. So they got He finished out with this brenner. Had twenty eight touches against nashville and eighteen touches first. nyc afc. How are we getting our star striker that few opportunities south all of that. I mean it feels. It does feel like an over a correction on their part as far as that goes not. Because you don't wanna see them. Make those moves because they didn't have sort of commiserate attention to the backline i mean. They could've just looked at minnesota. Who had a similar to year span to start and said okay. Well what minnesota do minnesota went out and got. Mls experienced top of the line d. mid centrebacks and just said we're going to be harder to break down and in being harder to breakdown where going to automatically be a better team and have ridden that to this point and then added those investment pieces and reno so and alan whoever you know if that happens etc etc yeah i mean it's not great wouldn't cincinnati fans. Say that the tried to do that. By getting kendall austin at the start and they went out and he's been doing. Yeah that's true. The best eleven player and harris was extremely well regarded in the moment that they went out and got him. But i don't think you would say hirschman presence and certainly even watson you would say like he dominant at times but also a wildcard defensively. Not exactly this is. This is what i was talking about last year. But their acquisitions like okay. If you have harassment dune as your six then you need to energetic ball. Winning box a box midfielders around him. If you're gonna play a four three three which he should've. They had a maya and alan crews allen crews in like immediately went into the doghouse in a maya eventually wanted out and we never saw what would have been a natural setup for them as on. It just doesn't feel like there's ever been a plan with fc. Cincinnati and You know i'm. I'm glad they're being ambitious with their signings but they need to be smart with some signings to let me close you guys on this chasing oregon shutting down the voting already says should we just give barco the goal of the year award. Now atlanta falcons is. We'll just flood the vote for their boy regardless of merit. Don't get me wrong. The goal was certified banger but there will surely be some better goals scored over the course of the season. I'm sure honors could agree on one. There from oregon. They're already have been better. Goals scored like everybody confuses goal of the year or goal of the week with finish of the week. It's a great finish great. Strike the best goal that we've seen this year is that i fire new new england tiki taka like canada. Pass the we're gonna put over. Keiko religious experience earlier in the show. You went into conventions. Were just like that because speaking to you through passing the ball is the essence of the game. The ball is the only thing that connects all the players on the field. And we saw that in that fire goal. We've seen so many wonderful goals. It's more than just some dude in a banger. But hey goal a week. I'm down for bangers as i would still take shop of. Yeah over over easy. Look we hit compared him to gonzalo. It's just a remake of last year's the year okay pep guardiola. By the way. I just wanna throw out there between gutman and and smith brad smith. We had to chrome dome goals this weekend. So between that. And then all the comparisons way brothers. This is a good time for that completely chrome chrome. I appreciate you guys all right. We're out of here. Let me think of Week to we'll be around to talk about on thursday and preview. The weekend with charlie davies. And there's a club country podcast coming out this week. We're talking Number nine depth chart the us men's national team interview with richie lereah dave's canadian best. Eleven non hardman's. Well you guys mind meld deny so. It's basically on the we both of you and then tailor rockwell from turtle show stops by to talk about the best season in europe for an american in two thousand twenty one. Check that out wherever you listen to podcasts. It'll come right to your feed. And the meantime have a great week everybody.

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FIFA Women's World Cup

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FIFA Women's World Cup

"ESPN head in the game. Just everyone this is head in the game, your definitive take on the week's major sporting events. I'm Jamie lane and this week. It's a football double-whammy with the women's World Cup. And the nation's nations league coming up now I'm joined by my trustee podcast partner. It's former UK international athlete. She could've been a contender. But now she's just a humble broadcaster. It's Rachel stringer. And I've got an injury today, some really feeling sorry for myself listeners. She has. Really and called tiny Philip glass in her finger that I got a borrower to remove. That's how is yeah. It's smashed my phone, and then I haven't got fix because I've been too busy. And so now it's made me injured but I'm great. Hey raised me question your enough lead. Right. Does that mean you a decent footballer? I used younger. But most people did didn't they, they have put my dad actually he was the coach of the junior team where I grew up. So I used to pay my dad's, but I wish actually I knew what I do. Now in terms of how big women's game had gone if I knew it was gonna be a little bit more successful football. But probably would have had it going hand in hand with athletics. A little bit more. I had lots of avenues I could have gone down. Lots of them athlete for rugby player. I just didn't in the end. Now. What did you choose? Do you choose the walk of life? Rachel. That's what I chose the walk of life. Right now before we speak to our first guest, we'll begin with a quickfire guides the women's World Cup in sixty seconds. Now, if you haven't had the podcast before you're crazy. This is the moment where voice over man, otherwise, known as voice attempts to give us the ultimate rundown to the week's big event in less than a minute. So here we go. The thief of women's World Cup is held every four years and began in nineteen Ninety-one is the feta women's world championship. It was first hosted in China with current champions, the United States, the inaugural winners. France of this is hosts with twenty four countries taking part the opening fixture takes place on June. The seventh with the home country taking on South Korea. England begin their challenge with a tasty opener against the number ninth. It seems amazing now but until nineteen seventy-one women's football was banned by the English essay, although the first international women's tournament took place in Italy. In nineteen seventy the highest attendance for any women's sports event was set in the nine thousand nine hundred nine final between US and China at the Rose Bowl Pasadena. With over nine hundred thousand at the game won by the hosts on penalties Marta. Vieira dasilva, otherwise known simply as Marta holds the record for most World Cup goals with fifteen strikes for meagre Brazil, an Amari sour of Japan, hold the record for most appearances with six World Cups, the USA of the most successful nation with three World Cup wins having never been out of the top three Germany one twice while England achieve. Their best ever is out last time out, gene. Third in Canada. That was voiced that with his women's World Cup low down in sixty seconds. Right. Let's get to the heart of this tournament and talk to our guests in a moment, will be speaking to England's most capped football ever. But I it's welcome back to ESPN's. Tom hamilton. Hello, tom. How are we? Tell me something great about yourself. Go. Football career peaked at under fourteen be level when I was in goal and an attempt to clear the ball broke the referees note. I thought, oh, tell them how Milton we've missed you England or one of the favorites to win. Now this whole tournament the World Cup. They finished third last time around how good a chance, do they have in France like a great chance. I think they're really progressing as a solid. It's been sort of interesting time in between the lost World Cup in that they've changed coach the previous coach from thirteenth to third. Now they have Phil medal there. They've changed their started play a more attacking less sort of pragmatic, for me, the main problem, there is perhaps, tiredness. Let season's just finished whereas the USA and Japan, their season starts at a much. So perhaps they're looking towards POWs peaking at the moon. But for England's I'd say the within a sort of a handful of a number of teams we've got a really good chance of winning this competition. Just talk about some of the friendly's they've had as well coming into it. You know, they haven't had to bat a record either at the have the no, no. Well, they won the she believes Cup valor in the year they beat them, DeMarcus. Well Denmark, even though they haven't qualified. I've got some of the world's best players there for England though. I think this is much now about self belief. Got so close for years ago, they were semi fine. Listen, two thousand seventeen in the European championships. The definitely got the ability. They're gonna miss him too key plasma filled and Jordan Johnson Z christianson, but apart from that they got ready to go squad, but is about self belief and also getting that little bit of luck. Now, you said they managed by Phil Neville, who didn't have the best record as an international player and big tournaments. Didn't he make terrible mistake when he gave away a penalty at euro, two thousand he's did Tom Portrush key? Yeah. Do we think of him, I think you have to really? I mean he's football royalty now. Is that clause of ninety two? I mean he's one of these players who is such a well known name. I think when he came to the England women's team his managerial pedigree wasn't up to the level of other international coach that time so he's really hard to earn stripes, but the players seem very fond of him the very impressed, by the way, he, he manages the players as well. But for him, he hasn't yet got that experienced in big tournaments as a manager. So if a hitting this is also big test. Maybe he's trying to get some advice from his twin sister who's obviously as we know manages, the England ladies netball team could be caught song for. Those two. Family. Gary, just put it on the beach as correspondent if Tracy's team win the net ba- woke up an even when the winds woke up in France water summer. The first match is against the old enemy Scotland a bit of a Likud Dhabi to start with but England favorites. Absolutely. They should win that game at Scotland's first ever World Cup is the nation's first major tournament since ninety eight they they've got a truly world class player and Kim. Little already good. Coach go experienced team. They've got the and defense for man city but England guns slides favorites for show next up Argentina, what we make of that clash, I think Argentina or the lowest ranked team in the World Cup the thirtieth one of that team's only just going professional for the first time. So that's sort of five ten years behind the rest of the world. I'd say or what? Behind the favorites English who in that comfortably is in the hall of. But I mean Argentina there's always a bit of a rivalry there. Isn't that England again should feel really confident heading into that doesn't say Argentina or like the lowest ranked team in a World Cup? 'cause when we talk about the men's side, it's quite a different story. Absolutely. But they have got some good players. Go s the funnier Benin usual spelling who is a brilliant, midfielder. So she's ones, watch out for Japan as well. That's who else we're gonna play their finalists last time out and win is in twenty eleven have we got the same pedigree that did have. They've actually got quite a new-look squad for this one. So the Hassler team is his player, sake mcgaughey, who is from Leon and she's just fantastic. She was one of the people up for the balance all this year. She's kind of like that pseudo Claude Machiavelli taught role bridging midfield, and defence, she's really, really important to them, but they have got a young squad. They've only got a handful of players who competed in the last World Cup. So for them, they really need to find a little momentum which has done so well for them in the past from those three teams. You've just mentioned. It doesn't really seem like England will have a problem, a two in the group stages, which panel the ones watch out for so there they're actually seventh in the world rankings. The moment that games a niece is going to be a lot of fun English sugar already with two wins under their belt. Hopefully if they beat Japan, we're already have some momentum going to the knockout stages, but underestimate Japan at your peril, but Tom do we think we're going to win it? I think there's a good chance England will be in the final four and from there. They just need that bit of luck. And I mean, I'm sure they take a little bit of heart and what the men's team did in Russia. They want a piece of that surely, Jonah Southgate and Phil novelist both spoken to each other. Phil never when he was named the squad spoke of how that team lost year sort of dove, and is the whole country and everyone went bananas. Everyone's been Jordan Pickford in park. Everyone's pretending that Harry Kane and this summer, I think our hope that it's gonna have the same impact someone like Frank Irby has the potential to be an absolute global superstar. She's already so well known in the women's game. But I think her the summer such key player her starting to go to another level, if as we hope England do kind of cooler, female messy, don't they up? She's. The mini messy. She hated that for years ago, moral, not sure, why not there's a quite brilliantly. Recent feature by me, which is going to be on ESPN. Let's see about Frank Kobe. So we're always up about we will do. So guys stay with that thought because right now we have someone very special on the line is far Williams, England's most count footballer by some distance with an incredible. One hundred seventy caps far is played at four European championships. And at three World Cups. So you better to talk to have the twenty nine thousand nine World Cup. And I'm pretty light it so that she's on the line. Fara how you doing? Hi, I'm good. Thank you. Good. Nice to have you how people on the planet, you'll know better than anybody. What it's like to represent England in a World Cup house. A tournament changed. You think in the times that you've been in overseas been in three is just getting bigger and bigger each time. Yes, so can big off. You won't the differences, did any loss years since, you know, I started out use it now is the quality of the national team and the got which is close. I think, you know, years ago when I paid my first World Cup. You know, it was a dream come true, but certainly, got between us in the best at the time, you know, it was my city I think not we've shown that doffing, so many more nations. I think, you know, definitely be the most exciting tournament so far, far, Jamie here hundred seventy cats. So many caps. I think it's showing your talent thing. Another thing England or one of the favorites to win. But that awesome super tough teams out that if you had to think of the strongest team who would you pick, you know what the Americans are always strong, but for me would phones them hosted it every time I've gone out to and played out there. You know, they crowd a very hostile. So I think you, you know it gives him the edge. I think you know, it proved in European championships, two years ago in Holland when they got behind, and they come away with the trophy. So I think definitely with friends friends, I think they'd go before he was going into the tournament, you, do you go to Franzen case as an injury that must be range kind of feeding very much. You can't just relax. You have to keep fit. If you got the cool up must be strange, right? Yeah. It's weird. I mean I was at the field this morning. You know, you're still chasing your own. Yeah. You have to, to say, you know, in shaping Casey. I'm cool. But you know, I'm hoping that the group ago, they stay fit. And I'm sure they will, you know, they go and give know the best to call themselves as they can come up with the trophy, would you like the cooler? I wanted to cool up before. I think you know now that, that's a place that I go. And I think. And then I think they deserve the opportunity, I wouldn't them to go and express themselves and another saving the World Cup which I couldn't do you would normally be relaxing on the beach right now? Just hanging out doing all those Cummings is everyone would, but running around the Paul keeping fit from dogs from often keep strict in your diet citizens and things of that I mean well, it's found Bach until the first game. So be that creek. And when you get to my age anyway, if you have too much of a break is even harder to come back and get you so thick. And I do not to take over anyway. But yeah, just keep on top of things as I say, I'm hoping to score, you know, look into Buna sandbar plague of done by. Because you just said you're on some of the first game. So is there a cutoff date? Then once the first game kicked off, no nation, then can be stand by introducing tournament. You can't be replaced. There's real feel-good factor on English football at the moment we had the World Cup in some the whole Champions League at the moment, you know, everything going on the men did amazing loss on has had an effect on the women's team, d think. Yeah. You know as well you know, with the men, they took a really young scored and, you know, to excited, and you could see, you know, how well they go on, especially when they played in how passionate they were where the budget, you know, hopefully with this court this year being, you know, young as well that that demonstrate the same thing togetherness on the that they have in invested in England. If England won this tournament, right? What sort of impact do you think that could have and women's football in the country? It would be amazing for it. Surely, wouldn't it? It would I mean they had an media day last week. It's a door to park and it's been the, you know, the biggest turn of media, you know, when was football since since we saw it, so, yeah, it shows the growth of the game, you know, certainly still growing. And hopefully Reggie say if they do you know have a good tournament opening their choice. You know, definitely could kick saw women's game and yeah. Mobile costs getting on board and showcasing our game and over it more. I guess we look back, sir. The NAS wall covers. Well, when they came third are Emba all the girls came back and actually going straight to Wimbledon and thinking they had like won the lottery. They like all corporate Wimbledon having an amazing time, and everyone was buzzing about and then so to potentially come back as champions would just take up a another lot not together. They may be getting into the palace. Yeah. I mean I mean I was appalled that World Cup. Yeah. When we did come back with the there was an opportunity, and so many things that, you know, will offer to us and you know, we're very grateful for there's opportunities. And, and I say they've had, you know, since the will company law for you so many more for two days. So many more things have come on board with the players, you certainly more females, you know, when TV excetera and and getting face out there, so, yeah, I think four years ago, female footballers playing for England probably wasn't known. I think the World Cup. Now. You know, most of the players are known, you know, in the publicans. Yeah. And I'm sure you know, they'll be able to people tuning in and some of them, and we just said that you're on one hundred seventy caps. Hundred and fifty but she's retired. But Karen Kenney. She's still kind of chasing you isn't. She hundred do you think you'll get a chair? Yeah. Cassuto food, you got one of those two, you know they go in them is play England. So. Yeah. Sure. Just go Kevin Kearney will be next to take myself. Can you pick out a highlight of all those kinda cap? You have I know you haven't, you know, you might still get some more you. Have you best memory of yours that you could share with us debut was home was the best close enough? It wasn't too far foods from here. And, you know, I voted family and friends that come up the free to, to watch me. So that was specially when oversee making Davies always special but it probably has to be getting bombed in the World Cup and twenty fifteen feet Germany for the first time in my career anyway. Yeah. There has to be the highlight to me. Also. You know, you an MBA. That's incredible. You mustn't be one of the first female footballers to get such an honor who presented you with this owner puts us on. Yeah. Some of the would've predicted the homeless football. And then obviously, then my some of the stuff that I did in England was also. Yeah, it was really nice. She got then show that you've probably obviously, yes. Rachel and Lord. Are you being him on something? He has drums those in here on old accounts and actually MBA wins alive, Jamie, I'm gonna say before how how're you doing? I am good. Thank you. I was just wondering what is a World Cup tunes? Homes of pressured. Does it feel different? Does it come to change the way you prepare for a game? I think the pressure is different now, you know, having both to welcome four years ago, and I get important then get into the semi finals of the year is two years ago. I think the big person now for us to go and win out saying, I think more the in house pressure will won't be there as opposed to the outside of thing. You know the gals will definitely be wanting to go there. I'm to give a good account it himself for their be pressuring himself to do that. But yeah, they've now played, you know, the law four years, some of the top nations, and, you know, years ago, we never used to beat the Americans and the French and the Germans in our way to do that. So I'm sure the dogs are confidence, and they'll put their own pressure on, but I'm sure they'll be able to do that. And in the last World Cup. You have had Mark Sampson as you coach. Now it's Phil Neville. How different are they in terms of kind of, I guess, personality and styles and everything? Yeah. I mean, Marcus fantastic. Pro game. I think he changed the way in which we eat four on the way in which, you know, he bought the team together. I think we were very broken at the time Mark something to the team. And, you know, he's away about his management skills in being able to bring people together on full, you don't use fantastic for the group of players, and they certainly agree players probably crossed an open. We go real togetherness. And I think that really helped already been team. And I think that's why the success was acid hit. Yeah. So was going to open different than these come from the men's game. So you certainly bought different standards. And yes, on knowledge when the minutes came into our game and. Yeah together is fully respect him. I had a short period women to know what he's really liked, but certainly my time under and great. And they must be hitting on what your teeth in the game. Oversee it kind of makes more sense now that you just said, oversee feels come from the men's side of things. And how inspired will the women bay from what happened last year? The men's team in Russia and I guess just having been around since Yoder's, Paul can the teams kinda get to mix a little bit there. Don't they? Yeah. That's what they're trying to do. I think they're trying to age groups together, male and female, and, you know, how, you know, door Paul training and being around each other, and it not being so divided think it's fantastic. I think five ks fantastic job with all seeing him and his team. And you know the youth teams of following and I think it's great that the women are men are showcasing side, each other up and do what he's training and getting amongst each other. So it's a fantastic by but he's good. What the FAA doing for also wanna know just get into the psyche of things. What's it like playing in a World Cup? It's exciting it, it bigger than you know any of a guest game all tournament you play in your to do you play against the best sixteen teams in the world. So, yeah, it's exciting. And, you know, you see so many different different places across the world. But, but also, you don't always get your opportunity to play against it and they should, so it's not between to play against the best teams for carbon Asia and around the world. Tell ya, it's, it's exciting. You get messy buzz and an always whichever countries hosted at you get great crowds coming out and represent. And we mentioned. Frank Kabil off our new one with us. And we said, we, she's wanting to watch and little kind of mini messy in terms of other England girls that you think will really step up this World Cup of make them up. Who would you say? Paraphra feces tastic season with Muncie school in Clinton goals and getting some consistent. You know run England in the last six games, I think she wants to school four or five in those so she's really had a fantastic season that she's a big move to Leon, which I'm sure should be excited about off to the World Cup. And she'll want to impress in his copy first World Cup. So young player so, yeah, the key is one that I think will signed out being sort of the issue, don't get caught up on some by even a follow are you going to kind of intently, or will, you just try and shy away from an England fan. How many? So, yeah, you know, I'm watching I'm I mean, I'm trying to out for the first game without being doing some work or going out and supporting the Galata. Yeah. I'm trying my best to get that first game. You think we're gonna win it. Hopefully do I really do. I think this is probably best spoken ago when it this is our best showings of doing it. So I really hope that we do as I think, the only ones that really started our web probably farms in America. So we're to Boyd them. And on the way off the, you know, the great Jones because he likes to make some more money. So he goes in places bets on it. On this dog. We're gonna be cheering all the way. Good luck tool. The goes good luck to you as well. Thank you so much. Joining us today. Thanks for joining us. Thanks. A legend guys. Unbelievable. Fara williams. Right. Yeah. I think even if she doesn't get to this World Cup then that sort of generation the generation before this current lock I've lost to be praised for the role in which they set this Los up. There's that phrase standing on the shoulders of giants, and I think that's kind of what this group on. Now the young guys from the key to Paris says, she mentioned hersal generation fouls generation Kelly Smith. They paved the way and now it's up for this lot really to deliver on that legacy totally right. It's now time to cross the pond. And join ESPN senior writer, Elissa Roenick, who's in the USA. How are you? I'm good. Good morning. I'm in California in the USA. And it's eight fifty AM here. I know very well it is beautiful. I can confirm that. So listen, because some questions for you now you cover women's football or soccer for ESPN. It's a big deal in the USA is there as much interest in the women's World Cup as the men's, you know, sometimes I think it's. To tell when you're so involved in it as those of us who cover it. But I think there's more, I think overall the men's game is more popular, but the women's team here in the US is so good, historically and currently are men didn't qualify for the last World Cup. So there wasn't quite the excitement around the last men's World Cup. There's a lot of excitement around this one is the first time they're going into a World Cup as defending champions since nineteen ninety nine being win, Julie Foudy and an Mia Hamm, and brandy Chastain sort of won over the hearts of American sports fans. We have been in love with women's football, and I think also a lot of the companies here in the US do a really good job of making them really recognizable names and faces. It's a sport on, like even American American football which is our biggest sport, you play in a helmet and a mask, and that's not true of soccer. So the games are on television and fans have an opportunity to see these really charismatic players who then have huge sponsorship deals with companies. And, and do ad campaigns and commercials, and we get to know their personalities off the field at ESPN the magazine we didn't entire issue dedicated to women's football, and we were able to go deeper and tell the stories of these women, I think women's sports, fans love knowing the athletes for whom they cheer I think, you know, amend love winning, and they just loved great teams in our women's national team is an incredible combination of both things. Yeah. I think I think we could do ever in the UK to take of what you guys are doing that. We don't do enough with famous just started to a little bit more. You know that kind of going in and joining up with different brands they had that big Nike launched, and they with the kids over in France, we don't do anything really specifically without players. So I think this kind of a lot to learn that I guess you've been in vote for awhile now and just tell us how much improved the standard. I'm gonna say in the time that you've been covering it. I think what's really improved is the world standard. You know, I think the American standard for women. Football has been high for quite a while, the thing I hear over and again, from the US women's national team after they play really any team in the world is wow. How much better every team in the rest of the world has gotten any look at this year's World Cup out of the twenty four teams you have four teams who've never been there before you have a team like Jamaica being the first Caribbean team to qualify for the women's World Cup. I mean, of course you have the Brazil's who've been to every World Cup and the same for the US, but across the board. The entire world is just getting better and better. And I think that's both intimidating to even the US but it's also really exciting for a sports fan or sports writer in preview of this World Cup. I think you really could make an argument that any of the top ten teams could go home with this title. And I don't think you could have said that even for eight twelve years ago. I totally agree with you, but also what's so interesting about the USA's as that America's. So heavily dependent on the sport from the colleges and universities. How big is soccer within the color system. Soccer is huge, especially with women's soccer. Soccer is a sport in the US that it's hard to find any girl who didn't play soccer at some time in your life, every kid, it seems the first sport we play is soccer. You know, I think for one it just a good way to get out a lot of energy, and, and for ITO parents to come together in community. And then we have a lot of really strong high school programs in incredibly strong collegiate program, so end the collegiate game I think is also become much more popular from spectator standpoint as well. And so, yes, of course, it really feeds are US national team. You know, we're starting to see players like Meg Pugh who could be an example of a player going forward, who doesn't go the collegiate route who turns professional quite young, but that has been traditionally the route that American players take and we have incredible coach. Ching at the collegiate level. So you know what an incredible feeder system we have into the upper echelons that, of course, we have our professional league here in the US, which you could argue I think they would argue is the toughest professional league in the world. So you just depths is that then do you think the depth is that we don't have particularly in this country? Do you think like they favorites to win again this year I was in had so success? But this all you guys gonna win. That's what we want to know you know, I think it's theirs to lose and they know that. And with that comes a lot of pressure pressure, you know, we'll see, you know, can either lulled and create diamonds rate, or you can blow you apart. So I think that is going to be really special to watch in particular. I'm actually following I spent a lot of time in Australia at the beginning of the year, working on a story on Sam Kerr, who is arguably the best player in the world. And so I'm actually going to be following the Australian team while I'm there keeping one. Very closely on the US team. Once we get out of group play than I'll start showing up at those US games. But yeah, I mean, I think everyone believes the US is the team to beat in. Also having that target on your back makes every match the toughest match ever played, you know, I also cover tennis in Serena Williams. Always says, you know walking onto a court three in Williams's tougher than locking onto the court is, is really anyone else because everyone rises their level of play to play you. And I think that's true of the women's national team. Trek and we can expect from the matilda's. They got some Kerr whose unbelievable. But obviously their team who go other familial players. Do you think they'll be there? And it's one of the, the final full, I do. I'm really excited about the Australian team. This is the best team men or women Australia's ever fielded. It's full of a lot of young players who've been together for nearly a decade who are really stepping into their roles as leaders, they had a rough last few months, losing their coach sort of unceremoniously, and still there's a lot of questions as to why he was fired. They have a new coach who's been with them. Only two months at this point. So there's a lot of question marks around that team. But they're also man, they are just so much fun to watch and be around. And, you know, my dream scenario is, is the US in Australia both win their group. They won't meet again until that final final match. And I think that would be a really fun game. But yeah, they've really they've improved their fitness. They've improved the style of play. They've, they've tried to really have a the kind of game that allows. Them to match up with not just the Brazil's in Italy's of the world. But also, those European teams like to pass the ball around, you know, like I said, like it at the last one copy think they played some incredible football. But toward the end of the matches, they really got out fitness in hope to be a much improved in that category. Air about means we can have a massive noise out in Lille. That sounds like an incredible plan to me. I won't take it. I guess we don't really discount England to mention the US and Austrailia. But if we kind of go back to early on this year, and the she believes cop the UK came out and told unexpected, I think it was a bit unexpected, but it makes this World Cup so exciting because you're right. England is a fantastic squad. They're playing so, well, I do think here in the states at least it was a bit unexpected, maybe you know where you were you all are based, maybe it wasn't. But I think for American fans, it was a bit of a surprise to see England come out on top. And, and it also gave us pause about where the US was at at the time. But what is the feeling like what is the excitement level like in the UK right now around your squad? I mean definitely building. This is kind of what you're saying. But just not as much I feel as what you guys have done the FAA out a really lovely video to announce the squad. So we got a lot of celebrities. And we had the Royal family. And different kind of known faces like Popstars announcing some of these laws, which was great. So that kind of environmental apart from that there's a great deal. I mean Thome you may know mobile that's kind of what I fail with these little tournaments. So is a week before when the team flouts that are the official photograph, maybe a song Lewis stuff, then everything will get much more exciting, especially with England. Scotland out first one is going to go bananas around the I guess we've also got the World Cup here for crickets, kind of that's maybe taking from ABC as well. And it's always much going on to teams just other Champions League. So had so much the everyone's focusing on as as well. Yeah, you're spoilt over there with, with exciting international tournaments going on right now. We just have a lotta of going on what is the sporting nation. I want to know who you are. America's biggest stars. Carli lloyd. Of course, you know, who was last the MVP of the final that incredible hat trick in Canada. But the US ahead and on top of the of the World Cup. So I think Carli Lloyd is a really big international star as is Alex Morgan, Tobin heath, Megan repeat, no, of course, is a huge star over here. I think those are probably are four biggest names, you know, if you asked anyone could name, but I think Malpensa, who is a young up and coming star. I think she has the potential to come off the bench in and be a star for the women's national team for several years. How important is it to win your group to get voltage crucial? Can you win the World Cup without doing that technically? Yeah, sure. But I think it's crucial for lotteries ins the, the US team. I think like a lot of top teams, I think play better from a head and from a position of confidence going into the World Cup as number one ranked team in the world and. The favorite and losing a game or two in group play. I don't think is going to do a lot for their own confidence in it. Sure. Going to bolster whoever they're playing in the next round. So, yes, I believe the US women want to go in and make a huge statement in group play in not just win. You know, they, they played their final sendoff match in New Jersey, a couple of days ago against Mexico and they, they won that match three nothing. And a lot of the stories being written about it, where that early were that good. They only won by three new. We were expecting them to win six niller nine nil. So I think with the there's such high expectations, especially for them to score a lot. They're gonna wanna go into those early games and really put on a scoring show jewelry that precious from this side is really positive thing for the team to go ahead and just beat everyone absolutely the more they score quickly, the more. They're able to do that, right? I mean just walking onto the field as. The US women's national team is a bit intimidating to a lot of teams they play. But if they go out and quickly score one two three goals that starts to get into the head of their opponents. And I think that's for sure their plan unending. That's also what makes them really exciting to the US fan. You know, we love goring and and, you know, a good hard fought defensive, you know, one nothing win isn't nearly as exciting. I don't think to American fan as you know, a six nothing win over Mexico in the in the final tuneup games. Yeah, I look to see them come out and come out. Strong really quickly in in his first games illicit. Well, good luck to your American team. I call them wait towards ho tournament. Thank you so much for joining us today. Really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you guys. And good luck to England. Thank you. ESPN. Right pumpkin the women's World Cup. There's another football tournament happening this week is the nation's league with England in with a chance of winning the first significant competition since nineteen sixty six so we're gonna speak to ESPN FCC a mug Ogden, Mark. How are you, my friend crooked cured? So listen since nineteen sixty six this is a big do. Right. Well, the rest of Europe is looking friendly told him a book deal for England because like you say it's been ever drowsiness and sixty six two semifinals awoke up from one of the euro. So this is kind of as good as it gets really for England to call. To call tournament together. You've got to be spent in Croatia which will, you know, to heavyweight nations goes to the Wilkerson and flush it. You know, people might sneer at a little bit people are Jim name from might say, it's not banking trophy win it. Let's be honest, some of the European Trump's, he's, he's more progress. And if the will cope all the next the with a with this tune, but having been more you could say that they have so Sadie international state. So while he's not the World Cup of the year that they think, is controlled finish one, but, you know, I think when, when then people disappoint so I think it would be good sign of progress. I wanted him for a long time on even begin to win it, you know, like you said, you have to be decent seems to get that. So I know the first game against the DOJ in in Kemalists now on Thursday. And you know of the cream from Noah, they go people Vinci Bundy like why now done got my ties to make to the east of world football. They got Frank young, so all of a sudden go that, you know the rising full of world football to play against the semifinal. So if they win I guess the final then you know they've all become a big emerging fools. But my goal is say. You know, you spoke of early the memories of last summer. The fact that we go to the semi finals, it was amazing such an amazing tournament for the full plas- full of fans for everyone. We get to feel the same kind of excitement that we felt last summer. Yeah. Hopefully although they of a life, full day. So it, it won't really get the kind of thing build the post World Cup when I think they kind crowd supplement a little bit. You know, you have the primarily say he's just finishing Champions League final of the weekend. So all of a sudden, you get hit by these told me that which I don't think people realize is going to happen. So when it does how to it will catch people's attention. But I just thought before the bit more build up, you know, been more kind of a little bit because I get to the one that defined the I it's not even having a base company. It almost feels a little bit Moltke. I think like you say it isn't so the trophy and you said a little touch what you just saying overseas kind of shorts into season finished. It also could be quite short tournaments England because as you just mentioned, they have Netherlands in the semi final. It could just. Well, yeah. I mean win lose to play on Sunday because they have to play the final on third and fourth place playoff. So my grin spent on third and fourth place in the nation's leak. I was the one the wheel in Belgian certain fullest, like, and it wasn't that it was really strange atmosphere. It was almost like do we have to be for this. Does anybody wanna play for full fly? So you're gonna need to win it onto the plane, Switzerland and in the third and fourth place. Demolished in the middle of June. So let let's build there so yeah. Play poets in the final thing Levin, Rinaldo quite a good way to end the football league. Nothing I'm Cecil. So perhaps, I mean, we've already seen Karen trip is being left outside this tournament where we're going to get a better idea. Do you think if we're gonna south gate, selection thoughts on long-term? He's got young guys like Declan rice in the g think we can read something into so that, you know, maybe we ought to do us went to twin to seeing silly host and the last stage. He's the semi finals the final at Wembley. So they sold about, you know, twenty twenty and also I think the to the twenty twenty cook and could and I think with that can rise to now he's under Ronald early twenties going to be big figures, Jaden sunshine. I think he's only nineteen, you know, the one that everyone talks about it. He's still vote and he's school because he's, he's been in and out of the same I think he's William the twenty one in into long. So, you know, they see is not the, you know, pointed towards the future, always actually Young's moved up Muslim, as well here. He's being dropped extra time from look ahead. I think this gives a good point. I think that they. I think he's fascinated because it is probably the two most emerging nations in, in European full books fronts when the World Cup last year. And they're great, you didn't say, buffing England the door to a real good view implies I think we could seen the teams that could dominate for the next four or five years Europe, German dollar at the vomit stain on old saying it's that the world co so England Holland Cooke, they show and his head for the next couple of mega sold them. But we know these new players. Just give count- Southgate selection headache. Maybe with us what he wants you know, coating gauge what could think? Anyone play football. You couldn't think of a decent goalkeeper. So, you know, I don't think paddock while the otherwise on good place. Still think you probably would like maybe one most likely to choose from hurricane doing gets even by get injured Marcus Russia seems to plus a little bit. And then what they haven't guy somebody Donald silver, and hadn't house oughta. I kind of Santa play make you always true define if he could find one of those two fold it could be guy, then I could be a considerable yet. You know, he's got great option. You just a little bit crise but failed and hasn't really addressed this time. Oversee always in the papers for different reasons. Obeys, the first person on the team sheet these days. Great season scoring go in England cr-, lots of the sisters while these, you do not a great will lessen. I think lots of games what he could have school to go it, Mr. Trump's it. I think he kind of war against him a little bit with the funds for whatever reason, they always have a guy that they wanna take all geographic. I think he's now you know, he's definitely the first one on the show. I'll be I'll be made. I think issues of his time because you can world class player. They should I think, you know, you look around this shit the ball who goes to somebody else they shave. They might have been don't mess eight Monte Rinaldo thing, I think, what aim stood and he's, he's, you great season Portillo to the United being outside show for football and all this shit puffing, styling who else are going to be also the ones who definitely going to protect the eleven well, see how carrying if he's fit. You know, there's always a question of a cabinet canes faced off. There's been a guy overall pick for Gilbert. I, I don't think the mix it I've seen. But, you know the rest of the squad. I think it's debatable really. Because, you know. Who do you go to you? Dummy rose to go off, you know, ended up shooting defense gemstones famous season job midfield evenly as you said thing. So I think the, the only they started can Harry Kane, I think beyond that, you know, everything up. Well, Mark, that's Portugal, Switzerland. How did that? Who's gonna pause again before imports. You'll I can't believe I'm a basic. It was. Yeah. It was a makes getting was for the World Cup a couple of years ago. So, so no, one of those things that can, it'd be telling them if they don't do anything, quite blow in the quite dour. I'm kind of hoping that this is again, what now though, such a lie. A couple of goes just, you know, makes an interesting 'cause so it's you know, kind of going to I'm swift. They don't really bring anything to any of them. So let's the poets them in at these fun. Is is going to say, did you think then we all the Everett's with the full there between awesome, the Netherlands, I guess, if we beat them, then we could say we all I don't know, because, you know, politically Trump Pinson facing poet skill and there's Renaldo when although he's about seventy five dollars. So, you know, the, the European champions in political with although so I told you if I because all it makes difficult to be a team that they don't many gills. But for now, those on fire, then take the yes let's, let's forget about the Swiss yellow. European tournament without Germany. Oh whoa. Champions FRANZ 'cause they didn't qualify wouldn't be good to see at least one of them involved at this stage. I feel really good. So let's kind of shit. Qualifies, you I mean the real headway nation from Spain, Germany, the bad. We'll think the change in, you know the game changing, you'll put we get into the point of the most stuff. These POWs going through transition thing. You know, people would argue that England had to nations, that don't CHA bit off the same kind of pedigrees those, we just mentioned, but he's quite refreshing. You know, I think it was a chance, nothing. If the Germans all the French, you'd probably say that they're expensive Maeda favorites. I think quite good that would go, you know, a big difference. This time I think it'd be great if in another DOJ gets the fine with it. The men's team taking on this tournament oversee the females the World Cup on the twenty one year so much. But, but we're gonna come home with something don't you think from one of those three? Come on. To it. Yeah, really twenty let's go to the movies theme ago, great chance because, you know, they are on one of the best thing in the world. Think that thinking I say at a team today you're not game. I don't know. I think if you had to give me the women best hope and then the twenty one is probably not. I think the nation's league even so gaming built Chinda. The so many England plays it would have been involved in the Champions League found this out today, that I'm not sure. I'm not sure how the money to rest. And I think that, you know, all these hostile Chelsea if she plays as well for the rope league. So the England plays might feel it's again too far hope not books. Listen, Mark, really appreciate your thoughts. I think even joining us really appreciate it buddy. Thank you. Guys. Told me in the studio, you're gonna join us for the quiz. I would love to my favorite part of the show. Now voice. Are you ready for the quiz? I am indeed. Let's go. The head in the game quiz, Jamie. Rachel, and Tom are you ready? We're ready question. One. It's multiple choice Jamie in two thousand and three. The tournament was moved from China to the United States because of a financial problems ahead of the Beijing Olympics be the spread of the SARS infection sea pollution worries at some of the stadia d a betting scandal. I think it was a betting scandal. You are wrong. It was the spread of the sows infection. Rachel question to the two thousand fifteen women's World Cup was the first replayed on a fake grass be using goalline technology. See across five different time zones, d all of the above Oliveira above is correct one to Rachel zero to Jamie. Tom the pressure on you question. Number three, the first recorded international women's match was played in a eighteen eighty one beat nineteen twenty one see nineteen fifty one d nineteen seventy-one ongoing. Full be nine hundred twenty one I'm sorry. You're wrong. It was eighteen eighty one. When England defeated Scotland three now I'm in the lead. Lead back to you, Jamie question. Emma, full foam, Afifa, president, set plateau once said a women's matches should be shorter. Be women's shorts should be tighter. See women's has should be longer d all of the above all the above is wrong. It's women. Short should be tried to I think Tom knew that one. True or false. Rachel question won the World Cup mascot, Eddie comes from a long line of feathered, mascots, and is the daughter of footage. The original mascot of World Cup. Ninety-eight Truro foles threw such a long winded random question. Steph nature very good is correct. Tom at the first women's World Cup in nineteen Ninety-one. They made the nets bigger to guarantee. More goals troll foles ongoing for fourth is correct, Jamie. You gotta get one. Now got it women's football is played with a lighter ball. True offals easy fo Sates true. Jimmy. What's going on this week? Knew that one. Rachel question number four, three has agreed to pay the same prize money as the men's World Cup to the eventual winners trophy colts shea, it's false. Although they had agreed to pay the business fights for teams traveling more than four hours, lucky them final round nations leak, blankety blank closest guest wins, you ready, folks question, number one, the nation's league trophy is made of sterling silver is seven centimeters high and weighs flank kilograms seventy five kilograms seventy five hundred. Six kilograms, Rachel twelve told me so wait up seven hall Christian too. Think I weigh seventy five kilos question to the competition is open to all European football countries. A total of blank teams have competed Rachel fifty five forty two. Tom hundred radio on the button, it's fifty five Lausanne. Rachel way, tie. I much about Lewinsky top team in the UEFA nations league rankings is blank with the lowest ranked team blank. Dylan's Scotland, America, USA T Finland America, isn't in Europe, but. England. No. Larry's ran team Switzerland. San Marino, highest ranked team, Switzerland final question the total number of people attending the one hundred thirty eight games in the tournament. So FIS reached a staggering blank, a million from Rachel four point seven million from Jamie. So you're pulling follows men in very good Thomas. It's two point four. Tom, Hamilton, you have a win. The rest of you. Leave with nothing. I was close bit like England. That's about what we tell him for this week. Now, don't forget to subscribe for free and review. And also, don't forget, whoever wins the tournament has to pick up a trophy that way. 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Kelly Smith: The Offside Rule Exclusives

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Kelly Smith: The Offside Rule Exclusives

"Next guest on the outside world exclusives is England women's record goalscorer Kelly Smith, the former Asmal strike retired from football in January twenty seventeen. She was part of the quadruple winning asthma ladies team of two thousand six, seven scoring thirty goals in thirty four games across the full competitions. I'm voted players player of the year two days in a row widely regarded as the women's best ever player in dribs plagued her career, but Smith still managed to represent the national team at three European championships, two cups, a trailblazer in the women's game Smith was appointed as a player coach at arsenal in twenty thirteen, which is currently taking time away from football to raise her first child. Exclusives with Kato, say, and Lindsey hookah? Well, Kelly's invited canine to a home two dogs, a locked away. There's a baby upstairs sleeping. I impressing Kate is one of a busy household. Wouldn't you say. I'm Brooke as sleeping lope kind of sleeping upstairs, which is quite an achievement at this time of night, full eighteen month old, tell us about being among because that's that's been a huge change. Although I think it's really changed my lifestyle, my mentality of of life really because I put so much emphasis on my football career over twenty years and have him Rocco is just really made me so happy and not to neglect anything that in my football career, but he's the best trophy. I've ever one if I can say that, no, if you know what I'm saying. He's just he's the autumn it now, and that is my main focus all about Rooker purposely taken a bit of a break away from football. I, you still digesting Easter following it as much all is, has it been nice to sort of have a bit of a hiatus? Yeah. I've been a maternity leave now for ten months, which has been fantastic, really raising him and really bonded with him. So it's been a pleasure to do that. But I've been trying to keep up with was much as possible base very, very difficult because we have a lot of time on my hands. So watch games. I try and do as much as possible when his imbed just to keep up to date stuff because of the few media pizza worth been doing, need to know my knowledge. What's going on in the world. Do you think about how football will fit in with work as life? Well, to be fair. He loves football ready? He's can. He's just about walking off. See, I have to stand behind him, but he knows what football is say to the foot when he goes and kicks it. And we play football in the kitchen in here and he he's in his mind to kick it. It's really weird. I spoke to. We have a nanny few days a week, and she said, I've never seen a baby that young Kabul. So she said, it's because of me. So he's really surprised. This is exciting. Well, yeah, go on. Klay for all snoring knows. You know, I would love him to play football, but if he doesn't, if he's not sporty, that's fine too. I just want him to be happy healthy and and do what he wants to do. Kelly. A lot of these podcasts we, we started out with early life and how things started out and where people found for football, and I'm going to mix it up a little bit with because I think we should go backwards a little bit. I want to start with what football means to you. What is actually done for you in your life and how you think of is, oh, football was my world was everything to me from a very young age from the age of six always had a football at my feet. If it wasn't a football, it was a stone stone to school. If it was mama told told me off smashing a vase in the in the front room with the ball, it'd be a balloon or socks road up. So you're always had a sphere at my feet, just work it on my technique of my touch, and I grew up loving the game or watch much of the day. I would tape it and I will. And I will practice the turns and the moves and imagine myself on the pitch and from, yeah, from young age, it was always something that I was really passionate about and kind of good at if not been too big headed. But I just love play football with the boys in the playground jumps down for for posts and opposite progress from there because the law for it joined to a boys team where I got kicked off for being a go and then joined another boys team and the same thing happened, and then I had to go and find a go steam to play on. Is it right that the parents petitions against you playing because they were embarrassed yet. They didn't want to feel the side against team because of Pule of pure fact that I was ago and I was good. I was making this on Zimbabwe. I dribble around and school five, six goals a game, and they just couldn't handle it. So they said, we're not fielding a team, so it wasn't fair on my team that I still play because we would never get game. So that's part of the reason why I had to finish play. And find a ghost team and couple of towns over. So is something like feminism? Is that something that that you would quite starkly aware of quite early on that things went the same for women? Yeah, definitely a love and passion that I had for the game and being told couldn't do. It was sold destroy infamy because are really good at what I wanted to do. All my friends were were boys, so to be told couldn't do that really was upset in, and but it made me even more determined to to prove people wrong. But you know, I can play football just go. It doesn't matter when you were watching much of the day, whose term was that? You were emulates literally thing. Same thing is mainly Ryan Giggs because I was the same players him to dribble with the ball at my feet. I was left for he was left footed. He was a left wing was a left-winger. So a kind of role model myself idolized him and just watched him in the games and try to do certain things in in certain parts of the filled that he would do and take that into my game on the football pitch. You found a girls team, but ultimately you'll route becoming England's first professional female football player started in America really. Did it have to start in America? Was there any other option for you as you saw it at that time? Yeah, that was the only option because I've said the women's football that time was a bit of a joke because we were trained into nights a week, and you know, I was getting Homer, eleven half eleven at night because we could only use the ball call eight o'clock at night when most of the men and the use of us use the facilities. So it was wasn't taken seriously toll. And in America, the scholarships in the universities out there, but they were trained in every day with the ball at their feet and obviously studying and trying to get their education. But for me, that was the alternate try and get a scholarship and train everyday because that's our new improve and I wanted to improve them trying to be the best Huckabee. You've been called one of the most naturally talented female players of our time. There's an incredible amount of respect for you. And I think some of our listeners here who don't know a lot about you may not know the scale of your skill and your talent. I mean, it's absolutely huge. And actually she's still in today's modern game as well because of course you can be very good twenty years ago and it not those those skills not translate to the modern day, but actually, if you were still playing, you'd still be cutting it with the best. When did you realize you had something different something a bit special? Was it quite later on or was it early? It was. During the boys games because I was probably the best player on the pitch and scoring so many goals per game. And I just felt really natural with the ball at my feet. It was easy for me to go round players and the ball into the back of the net all to see an assist and put somebody in. I realized that I was different from everybody else about about six or seven, and when that scope when that pond gotten got bigger for you, the fish when you went to America, was there any doubt? Was there any concern or was that again somewhere where you felt naturally very happy? Very at ease, very, very capable too much. Their level. There was a lot of concern because I was only seventeen years old and leave in my parents friends. My family was a massive feet for me to do because I'm quite a home body, and I was quite shy reserved not that confident. So for me to take myself. So we're country where I didn't know anyone was was very. Very, very frightening. I was crying those boarding, the plane, but I knew I had to do it to pursue my dream of being a professional athlete and horrendous time out there for the first three or four months. I was so homesick are great. The decision daily. I constantly crying on the phones. My parents said, I wanna come back and we scheduled a phone call every Sunday. Just talk about hours feeling and go easier. I remem- you know, eventually said, make two weeks and then we'll check in and then it turned out I was. They were calling me to make sure that was right because I actually, I really Selden quite quite quick quickly, but after five or six months over kind of liked it and and really started enjoying it. Exclusives the sacrifices that you had to make not only the upheaval of going to another country to proceed. But football was the angle, but along the way it did mean that you ended up having to really rely on your data on certain occasions. Remember you've told me before that your dad had to fly out, need to come in, basically rescue you at one point in your life. And does that make you have a different relationship with football? I mean, although the end goal was great and you had an amazing career there with these other offshoots from from this low for football, which actually we're quite damaging. Yeah, I hate football when I was in my worst state. Didn't wanna play any more. I was in a really bad spiral of drinking every day. Upset couldn't move because crutches in at aplastic cost on had three serious injuries, but tobacco. And you know, I thought about committing suicide because didn't know which way to turn didn't have football. I didn't have my family close to me. And as I said, I wasn't really buddy buddy with anybody out there. They were my colleagues. They will my teammates, but they weren't really my friends. I didn't really know me inside out so I hit a lot. My drink in and pretended I was okay and a really wasn't. Okay. And that's, that's when my dad flew out to rescue me with women's football. At that time, there wasn't the sort of professional backup either was the PFA or the people that you could speak to about these problems? There was nothing and. Had no guidance, no support. And that's part of the problem is why I got myself so low and so sad because I didn't lean on anybody and I didn't speak about my feelings and since of seagoing going through rehab and getting older and really know myself and coming to terms with who I am as a person. I suffered a few injuries later on in my career, and I didn't go down that route because at the experience of pulling myself ruined and speaking to people and going through therapy really helped we know about the drinking you've written about it before, and that doesn't take any of the shine off at all that vodka was really seeing through. And I'm, I've read the drink until you pass out basically just picking up on the suicide side of it. That's really low Kelly. I mean, that's that's, that's really, really horrible to hear. Actually. What do you feel when you think about. About that time and drinking's one thing, but you know suicides another. How did you get from one to the other? How did how did those feelings get so bad that you felt? There was no other alternative than to not be here. When I was so out of it, you not thinking rational, you're by yourself. I was by myself, my -partment and absolute. We smash not thinking, you know, go to the cupboard, not hold about the paracetamol and shake them and just see see how many are in there and think about just neck in them with my drink because he didn't want to be. I didn't live anymore. And that was really, really difficult for me to go through, look around my apartment and see what's the best fit in where I could hang myself because I didn't. I just didn't wanna feel I didn't. I didn't have football. I couldn't express myself and I was. Settles quite a reserve shy person. So I really express myself on the football pitch, and that's where I love to be in that. I couldn't do that for number years, and I just didn't know which way to turn. Did you doubt about those feelings? Is that why he came out or did you not dipped to that? Not until later the suicidal thoughts I didn't tell him about, but he could. He could just tell es mmg knew that I was in a bad way and I just said about enough niece at riot, I'm going on a plane. The next day he come out helped me. So my car, we got my dog will write papers from the vet, fly her back and then sold my furniture and stuff right there. And I was straight back home safe. Your dad wasn't there if he didn't pick up on that, that doesn't thinking about does it, especially because you're in such a different place. Now, you know, we kind of fast fast forwarding on what sort of fifteen years or so, and you're in such different place now, but it makes me so sad that might not the kind of today. Day might not have been because because you were in that state? Yeah, and certainly he is. My savior told him that many times fame to come out there and do that for me which he says it says job is his dad, and he knew me and that's what that's do. So he did the best thing for me at the time and obviously girl and always will be, and we still a really close relationship now. Yeah, those times really darken horrendous. But that's my pulse now. I don't really think about that too much is you know, my life has changed so much. Finished my career on a high and then obviously fell pregnant. As soon as I. Finished. So in a happily relate, happy relationship and love in life at the minute. What it does go to show is that the chiefs that you made it, it makes them even greater because how many people would have got to where you did having to go through all those hurdles, a lot of people, I'm sure even a similar time to you were falling by the wayside. They will say to tough, you know what? I'm not going to carry on doing that. They might not been having exactly the same experience, but in terms of footballing terms, the one thing you can say is that the experience with the boys teams, the would have been people your age going through something similar, and you know what? I'm not going to go down this football route because a cont it's not possible in just giving in. So why was it that you kept going and seeing it through and then managed to actually become one of the most famous names in the game? Yeah. Think of a real real sense of pride, and I knew I wanted to win so many trophies them be recognized as one. As the best place in the world, and I couldn't just walk away from the game. I wanted to times, but I just give me that didn't wanna give up and each injury that I had. I just got my teeth gritted and just thought, get get your head down and work as hard as you can in rehab and get back, improved people wrong because people write you off after the third or four injuries. She's not gonna come back. It'd be saying player, and I think that was an extra motivation for me because I knew I had technique and the talent if I just applied myself if I can get a good year or two without injuries, I knew I could really help all snow in England reach high targets. What makes this even more interesting. Now, when you've got the comparison of since we talked about the Olympics and potentially twenty-fifty World Cup being a change in point in women's football, which was the Olympics, very, very end of your career and the twenty fifteen World Cup you were. You were actually part the Fox Sports team punditry. So up to that point, your name is one of the biggest names in women's football to the point. Whereas someone who's who's been involved in football, a lot myself in spoken to of people eat, say to anyone name me an England, women football, and they say Kelly Smith and your role model your eight. That's the role model. And now you do it now and you'll have Lucy bronze Steph Houghton. Franco be Jodie Taylor after recent events, and there are a few names that people say, but yours was it. That was the name that everyone said, how different is that fear twit. Yeah, really view it like that. I think I had my own career path and I had to choose my parts because the women's game wasn't where is now, so had to leave to go to America, had to plan to professional leagues out there, and the game was booming out there. So I love my time out there in after ninety nine when the US women won the World Cup, the attendance is that we were getting at the games, thousands and to play in America against the best players in the world at that time was phenomenal. And I really my mindset out there was just a four professional when I learned how to be how to train like American because they're all focused driven. They give everything every training session and it's not like how it was back in England where it was. Some people didn't even turn up for training, but it's still playing the game on Sunday. Whereas in America, you were focus you driven, you give everything in training. You come off sweating, and it was all camaraderie and. Team teamwork. Whereas in England, it was very, very different of that time. What was it like coming back to England? Was it Mike as our fush flash Kelly plays over in the states? You know, look at her with all the all the skill in the precision pass thing. Did you just fit right back in because that time really, honestly, there was a golf between what was happening in America and what was happening in England. And that was a no small part due to the fact that the structure in England didn't support what was happening in American perhaps now we are seeing more of England women capable of because of all that stretcher in place by the FAA and the players follow g didn't they need to America and then we saw other players going out and following what you've done. I think I don't know. I just think. It was. I had to do it for me personally because the game was was nowhere near where where needed to be. But now I look at the way the structure of the game is in England. Now when how many, how much money's involved in the game and the fans, tendencies are bigger. I tell the youngsters now they don't need to go to America because you have on your doorstep. If you want to be a professional athlete, now you can be in England and you can career out. So there is no need to go to America a lot of the best players on in America anymore. They're in England a lot. The top European players are here, the Americans coming over to give it a go as well. Nationalities here all across cross the world because they say, now the likes of awesome. Chelsea Manning city Liverpol pumping money into their program, and the way the game's develop in it's the national team is doing really, really well and England now is a lead in force in world football. TV exclusive video for book on. As Lindsay said, you were the poster in the bedroom of the girl who played football. The only one for for for a long while it was Kelly, and there was also that. And she's with the tapped in, but they didn't know. And it was like, yeah, it's pay white. Yes. I used to people used to think I was fading and people think she, she was Kelly. So we use banner about that a little bit, but just because we're blonde, that's all women. Now there are several household names in England, women football team, but here's my concern that the games accelerating is growing and that's great. But so is the pressure on the profile of some of these players? Is there a danger that some may get too big for that boots? And let's be really Frank about this. Have you seen anything like that? Have you seen instances of that? The way the games go, and there's a lot more money involved. You know how to boot sponsor only not many people had sponsors, but now everybody has a boot sponsor. Everybody's on, you know, somewhat decent money for their clubs and England central contract of gone up over the years, and there's a lot more money involved. I just hope the the women in the game don't look at themselves as being arrogant because it's not the right place, the beard that's the way the women's game is and has been. Is there a word of warning for you here because you must have seen? I mean, it's it's partly human nature, whether you're footballer, whether you happen to be doing well in business, whether you featuring a TV program with whether you ask them on plucked off the street and suddenly become a reality TV star basically happens is part of human nature. So what's the warning from you? Just get your feet on the ground because the games women's game is in like that and wanted to see go that go that way because for so many years even before my. Time, there were women, the headless, the more we had in my era. And now you see the players. A lot more and some of them are can be a little bit big headed. Have you seen that you don't like just comments of heard about certain players. One in this money or wanting to be the face of this team. Little things is their agent issues as well as think the way I think even some of my academy players. Are asking me about agents and they've even made in the game yet eighteen nineteen and looking for an agent. I mean, it's just crazy thing that they should be thinking about that they should be in the head down trying to make the also I team and then see what happens after that. If you play on the pitch, then your agent will come to you. You should be looking for an agent at, you know, when you not even playing first team football? Yep. This is why you have great value as a coach because not only because of what you could offer in in coaching capacity, but because of your experience and the dressing room toward that, you could give, but seems like that's something you might be putting on hold for a while, especially as your new mom, but did you enjoy that? Did you enjoy that part of it? Yeah, it was difficult for me because. Finishing my career and then going straight into the coach role. The development team is so different when you play because you just think about yourself and you go out and you play and you perform when you ever love your teammates. Whereas when you're the Sipa on the other side of of the coach in sidelined, yours, you're the one person everybody's looking at. Now you have to set up all the sessions. You have to really plan the sessions with resistant coach. You have to meet before the sessions, talk about it, what's your outcome? And then you have to affect every player within the session. You have to debrief the session. Go away, talk about who played wealth is so much prep and planning, and then obviously the games set up the kit. That's so different because the way that I view you as a player was it's instinct, you know, you've already spoken about how it was natural. You pay me these boys. It was an instinct thing, and then you've got to put that into words, and you've got to say, okay, we'll go around this current, do this, and that's how you do what I did. It must. Difficult? Yeah. It was very hard for the first couple of months of really so nervous every session because it just felt like it was very unnatural for me to be telling people what to do and just trying to show them certain pitchers on the field as to what they should be doing him. What was probably a better option that they could have made. It was very difficult and just to have the conversations with them about their form, it's off to the game and their indices meetings being honest. With the players? Yeah, it's very difficult. Do you then necessarily think that being a great footballer you can be a great coach doesn't work like that. So I think you can see that Bengals a very good player marina wasn't good, a good player, but they both been fantastic money. It doesn't mean just because you're, you've been reached the highs of being regard as one of the best in the world that you're going to be a good coach, and you know, that's, but people expect me to be a good coach because of a good player. And there's another pressure there for me outside the I know everything. I don't know everything. You know, I'm still at the bottom of the coaching ladder on the coach in Parkway, and thou had to kinda take with a pinch of salt and just not care what people think and think that I know everything because I really, really don't after the Mark Sampson affair. And then there was all the speculation about who would take the England job and the many people from different quarters who was so opinionated when Phil Neville did get the job that it should be. When someone with more experience in the women's game. I mean, what were were you on that fence? When my name was tallied, I actually loved it because there's no way I'm ready to take on the England. Women. Job, no way. I know all the players on another white well, but to me to step into that role was never ever going to happen addictive out and say, I thought you should have been a female coach because I think females. Don't work in the men's game all the doors closed. So if you're good enough and you had the right qualifications, you should be put if you want the job, you should be a contender for it. Phil Neville didn't go for the job and he was given the job so you can see why people are already about it, but on hind are hindsight think. You know it was out of the blue. It was a shock one, and I think I think it do really well because I know that the players really respect him because of his career. He's played on ceramics Ferguson. He's coach of the experience. There is one trophies magic United Champions League. He actually was a coach before taking this job. He has his pro license, but it just hasn't had his own team. And I know speaking to some of the players, they're really up for it because he's really down to earth and he wants to win. It's coming from a win background, and that's what the all these players want. They want to win a major tournament reaction when I got the job come on be honest what because we were pretty sure. I think most football fans were pretty sure because it did appear to come out of left field for me anyway. It's like Kelly said he was approach for it wasn't as that's why it was a bit of a shock wave. The Mark Sampson affair was was handled told by good. So. Source that they had three really good candidates got through to the final interviews, but then when they were told that their history will be dug up the to all three of them. Sorry, fell away the most movement. So they had all the three contenders that were good for it just pulled away. So then they they male or female know a couple of two female on male. So yeah, it just says it all those. Everyone's got skeletons in the closet. But I think the way it was just handled these one of them had kids. So you know, the kids didn't need the the guardian kids to be ridiculed or anything about his past. So it went like bang, bang, bang, three top contenders, fell away and then they were back to no one. So I think that's probably why. And even then with Phil Neville it didn't stop them going through his well, it didn't. It didn't pay off all that. All that ju- diligence because what might have put off one worthy able. Manager for that job. What my put the FA off for that person didn't put them off for Phil Neville in the end because tweets reveal where he appeared to be making sexist comments towards women and towards his wife. I think a lot of people though need it, the context of those, it's a difficult one because I see when they were written a new, read them out loud. They appeared very bad, but as someone who knows fail a few times of what within a few times, but he has got that sort of tongue to where you know that it's not really meant is like said a gesture, but it didn't excuse the first few encounters that the public and the press had with him being a bit calamitous. Really. He didn't appear to know a lot of his players or no, their particular strengths or history. Now, who am I sitting here saying? Well, of course he's been offered this job, should he know every single thing about every single player, but I'll return to those three candidates, but they probably knew a lot more than Phil Neville. Did they were all involved in the. CNN's game across international level and club levels. So yeah, they knew everything they knew every player. They knew the system. Yeah, it was just just the way is I think when I first heard it, I was like, well, okay, I know it's going to be a lot of negative press, but why don't give him the back in and when I saw his press conference, USA Georgie, partly amount of press that were there for an England. Women's manager was unreal. So think it's just the initial few months and let's see how he does. You know what would happen if he does win the World Cup is a possibility of England ranked second in the world. They're going to qualify top their group offing. They've got really, really good charts USA on the team that used to be Germany on the team. They used to be Sweden on an England on on the up by really think that that little bit lot that you do in tournaments and the team on, and he gets rid of some of the Vatican then I think they thought every opportunity to win it off. Think it's great that the way the game is going now because there's so much more profile. You see the young girls, they're really cheering on the players and it's the grass. Level that you really wanna hit, get the gills interested, even if they don't wanna play football. There's there's other careers that they can have in football, referee and coach in journalism mold across the board. Download for free by all the dice. He's just looking at the harmony and all of those things that happened in the game in the last couple of years. Do you think that's perhaps the biggest challenge right now is to get that right? You have to have the right crop of players, the right group of players that are all pulling together. You don't want any individual in there. That's all about themselves because you don't win a game by yourself. You win a game as a squad as your players, twenty three players tournaments. So a lotta work I know was done in the build up to the twenty fifteen camp with togetherness and dealing with if you not play in hiding your emotions, if you're upset. All in really not bitching about it or or showing that you're angry in front of other players because the manager picks squat. You don't take it out on your teammates and that that's what makes you a good team player. You give everything in training, and then it's the manager and they system under the talk about it and pick the squad. So then you just if you're if you're unhappy about it, you don't really show it. You show support and then you may use it. Sure. You're ready if needed to go on help your team didn't really work because even that world cart where Mark Samson to his credit did do a lot with team bonding goes exchange shirts, didn't they before the game. One player would give the other player there in this kind of ceremonious way, but yet there was still players falling out with each other and swapping rooms all we always going to get this all in. Yeah, you're always going to get that. Is it a female thing. I don't know really. Game in order to comment on that and don't want to compare it. But I'm, I'm, I'm thinking like an external person looking at the women's game room buffet, white for a good fifteen years. We never fellow pushes the way the game was back. Then the. The think you're not gonna really gonna like everyone in your workplace and your workforce. It's how you deal with your emotions and, and you have to work together because everyone wants to come together and win something. So don't think everyone's always going to be happy in camp, but it is very intense when you're away a World Cup or European championships because you're with the in each other space, twenty four, seven for a good few weeks. And I think I think Mark got it right in terms of Phoebe, give the players a few days off just to get away where you civilian clothes, Gail experienced the city. Whereas when I was playing, we hardly had days of with hope. It was just really intense all the time meeting after meeting after meeting new really got sick of times being in the tournament. And that's probably why we didn't perform as much because we didn't have as much downtime and time away from it in a tournament. So I can see the players. Now when I was out in two thousand fifteen, they out sightsee and going on the list this evening. Moncton all time him, which was lightly switch of Canada. By the way I heard it was the people are all look look in there. It didn't help that the that is basically one hotel in the whole of Moncton. That was big enough to hold a team and it staff, and it was split into two with the French team. And the English team of course, played each other quite a feisty game. So that didn't help that the girls were basically cooped up in a hotel with one of their main opposing sides. What should take Mark Sampson now, obviously he's not involved in the game. Didn't know where he is is gone underground. I don't know if you'll ever get a job in football again, who knows? But I do feel feel for him because he wasn't a nice way to go out. I just a different one comment on merely we can't speak to you without speaking about goals and this the famous picture of kissing the boots. And I wondered if that was your favorite goal you've ever scored whether that's represented by the way the celebrated it, or if there is another that springs to mind, that was the most iconic one I'm kind of been remembered for, and that is probably one of my most favorite pitchers mainly because combat from a serious injury and played on the national team for ten years and not really qualified for any tournament. So it was my first woman England's first in ten years, and. Yeah, I did visualization the night before the game and thought if I school, if I scored garages, take my boot often kiss it because the ad never been done before, you know, taking your show of whatever to do that. So yeah, it was just like it happened within a moment and then took off, and then I just decided to run with it. So the whole celebration evolved just took me away with the elation of the goal. And then the second I didn't even think of scores go school the second one, and then both boots off his kissed it. So it was that one wasn't planned. What would you have done if you scored three? That's a good question. But yeah, she gets told off after for doing that celebration by the manager hope Powell because she said it was a arrogant and the players oppositional ways wanna kick me. So now you've just added extra spice to them which I can get. Now I got that after. So I didn't do ever again. But I wouldn't have changed that because that's how I felt the time. Just pure elation. I bulk up four goals helping get to a court finals, but it just wasn't meant to be talking out Powell. She called you a once or twice in a lifetime player. Former US coach when you're playing over there and that was when the team was achieving huge success. Both on the Olympic and World Cup stage said you would have been an automatic choice for the US national team. Had you been eligible, which is a huge compliment and during twenty mayor, ham said, during the World Cup that your touch is a different class, everything clean and with a purpose and just to add to that after your tied Peter bids, Lee phones you up or he left your voicemail, right? Yeah. You said. Just want to congratulate you on a fantastic career. You're the best number ten of overseen an Uber. The may. So that was a real nice comment from him because I never met him before. Obviously, he was a fantastic player for England and Newcastle, and obviously April Heinrichs was the US coach. I think that said that is that's really touches my heart because the time US national team were the best in the world, and they the players that they had in that team were phenomenal. Brandy Chastain, Mia, Hamm, Christine, Lilley. Brianna scare scurry. Just start with superstars all across it. So actually idolize those players looked up to them and thought are wishing Lamar's good as this side. Because if I if England were we would want to tournament or if I could have played in that, so I'd how good must must. I've been in that team would have been so yeah. And then hope house comment was really nice because she's been at the top of game the women's game for good twenty odd years for the national team, and she really helped develop me as a person as a player. So that was nice. So on the back of all this, do you still one day want to become England women manager. That's a tough one because haven't coached. Been out on the field for nearly year now because of Rocco. And I think my main focus right now is just to look after him and raise him the best I can. I'm on the license. I haven't been out coach him because of childcare and and that. So I my goal, my focus isn't the England job right now who's to say in a few years, it might happen. I don't know, but a really have to get out on the on the coach in aspect to learn, and you know, make mistakes and Groza coach. But right now, my focus is worker in terms of England, women winning World Cup, Clare balding said that she thought England women would win a World Cup before the men do. Do you agree with her? I did up until oversee the new crop of young male players coming into the game now, but I do think you know close. It's a close call because I think. The crop of players know them. Phil Neville has a very hungry for success and more talented than the players are played with with England, the game, understanding the better technical players. The coach in our specs of the game now is is a lot better. So they are understanding tactics, more and mirror. I think they've got a real good opportunity, but I'm also looking forward to this World Cup in Russia because I think you know the crop of players that Gareth Gareth Southgate has to pick young and hungry for it and play in haven't played all of them played in a tournament. So they got no fear. I think that is crucial going into tournament because I think the former crop players men's plays that a lot of fear and there was expected to win something. Whereas these England players, no one's expecting them to do anything. A lot of people on expecting lengthy other group. So they put nothing to prove out there and that sometimes helps you perform better into ornaments what word, the women winning the World Cup. Do for the game, what do you think it would do next? You know, we've got to a certain level of always believed that winning ultimate silverware will will change it for another another decade. Another, however, long bring more profile to the game. I don't really know what would happen with the women's rugby them winning the gold is really elevated game. Yes. A lot of people don't go much women's rugby, but just in terms of commercial things of happened on that side women's cricket has become when they won the World Cup is become more at the forefront in the papers. So I think you know if England Cango on a win that World Cup, we just changed the whole face of the game. I think the players become more household names. More money will come their way, I guess, and the profile of the game, we just get higher hope. Then more people will come out and support the club club level because I don't think you know a lot of people come out. Support the women's f AWOL as much as we all hope. And I think that will really kick start the league if they do win the World Cup. Thank you for speaking to us, and we look forward to seeing what you do next. But in the meantime, enjoy being a mom. I really wanna be there one day when you play him your best goals. Yeah, he's actually when only firstborn. It was really nice gesture at the FA at she sent his monomer tensure of his stories. Shonky baby kit with the number ten had Rocco on back. He's he's actually just fit into that now. So just ready in time for the men's World Cup there. Thank you. 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Caught Offside: Onto the Semifinals

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Caught Offside: Onto the Semifinals

"Caught offside with Andrew gumming, and JJ. Davani. Oh, we from the west side of Manhattan, Andrew gun. Ling JJ, vani hair, the US women's national team have made it to the semi final of the women's World Cup, twenty nineteen Andrew is on the line, common Sava. What's up brother asked you how you are? And you're just such an own culture, dolt that you weren't able to respond Andrew comments means. How are you? I am well began Grassi us be too. I am. I'm over the moon with this victory. It was the tense victory. I predicted I said it will be to one that's how it turned out. And here we are with the US in the semifinal of the World Cup with a very interesting macho to calm on Tuesday against England and this was this this game was in terms of the battle for supremacy between the two favorites, the US came out widely on top in my view. If not on the interns of the score. She yeah. By the way, we'll get to the game in a sec, but I do wanna at least say, why I'm in a car like I feel weird not even addressing that. Well, no, you, you shouldn't because it's one of your usual seventy five vacations I do for here. What about the four months that you spend in Ireland, but it's not even true. True. I mean, well, then neither is what you're also I never call from a car. I'm always out my seat in my house ready to go. So expand yourself, I'm sorry. I'm doing this for you. I was more than happy to get to my destination. And then record animal. Yeah. You and you would be happily have ruined my Friday night. I mean, it's I'm in God knows what time I'm going to get out of here anyways but apart from the bickering. Tell us where you're going. So I was at a work related event for the entire day today in point pleasant New Jersey point pleasant beach, New Jersey and it was super fun. And it was really cool now with that my issues are two full for one. I didn't I feel like such a don't saying this, but, like I didn't really see much of the game because it was not on where I was I was at a bar and it was on. But I was working and not in a position to see TV screen, but I can't tell you this. I don't mean to make us about like, oh, we'll soccer ever be famous in this country. I you know, I. Hate that conversation. I think it's tired and boring. And like I believe that it has arrived in this country, just in a form that mainstream sports fans are necessarily accustomed to. But I will say that at a like a typical classic jersey shore bar. Do had a quarter final of the women's World Cup on not the final semifinal, but a quarterfinal and I'm telling you, the place was going crazy with each school like I didn't have the TV in front of me. But I knew exactly when something happened because you could just hear roar go up from inside the bar where everybody was watching, you heard USA chance. It was like I hate that I didn't really get to see it. I feel like I missed a major soccer Molin today, but the atmosphere was still a cool thing to be a part of just to see like this place. So United in watching this game, it was fun. It was still fun. And I am still excited to try and speak about it intelligently. Well, I think what's interesting. And you on it, there was not from the group stage these these two teams. Are on a collision course and this game was was. I mean it was everywhere. It was billed so highly and the fact that was in the pack Prins, they I guess the Spurs, who home of French soccer. The fact that, you know, the horse nation versus the US, there was there was this sense that France had been playing within themselves with the would this be their time to explode into shine. There was a sense that the US have had pre para from the Spanish threat, obviously pretty straightforward until the build up to this game was, was so huge, and so massive for a quarter-final because honestly, you know, the US are so dominant in this sport that it's rare enough of late that, you know, we talk about those that can really really hurt and challenge the US outside of a final. And here we are in a quarter-final with everything on the line on. So today, Andrew dominating Twitter in the our soul up to kick off was the. The selection of Gillette, and all man yet that the fact that Lindsey Oron did not start was causing something of a Aurora. So I don't like I'll be honest, not. We won to the US one. So it's hard for me to sit here and be overly critical of it because, you know, like I've always said throughout this entire tournament, and the lead up to this tournament like, however, great, the US's first eleven are the drop off to the players behind them on the bench is not. It's not that huge there's, there's death to this team that is far and away the greatest in the world. But this is like I, I understood it in the last game of the group stage is this another case of trying to avoid her getting a card like, no no, it was a clearly selection? She wanted to make I, I mean, she wants the best Gillette's the weird thing about this is she gets. Kristal dawn into the team for a need, but also because she wants the best players playing on the field. And so she's playing crystal Donen a position that maybe is not her natural position. Although at this point, she's played there, so many times it is. But I by that same token what, what actually what do we even consider crystal Dunn's natural position anymore. Maybe we're being a bit silly about this because we talk about white midfielders are unfold. Backs being in the modern game. You know, they're the new wingers, a sort. So it's not that it's not that weird that she's a converted wide midfield are forward playing at fullback. We should maybe be so surprised by this. But, but, but in any event from that selection in terms of ball playing fullback, don't is very very good. She's great recovery speed as well. So you look at that Djilas wants her in the team. But the same token, I mean, Lindsey Horon is considered the best midfield or not just in this team. But in the world and she does. Get into the team. There's no place to combat it the best player in this site. So that was causing kind of a lot of debate on Twitter beforehand, now, I will say this Andrew, that debate was settled fairly early earth if the debate wasn't settled, certainly, the sense of nerves about this game were set very on this is the opener and again, it's another excellent set piece from the woman of the week, Meghan routine. Oh, repeat. Just an amazing start the fifth minute again for the US to go ahead. And, and honestly, Andrew from someone who was watching the game that was a real nerve settler US again on the front foot and getting an early goal. Their ability to do that has for them, probably been one of the stories of the tournament so far, like just this immediate. Because you know that there's the intimidation factor for other teams that go up against this US team. And the fact that they won't really ever even give them the chance to settle in or build early confidence. Like there's just this immediate first round blow that sends the other team kinda like scattering backward. It's just it's been huge throughout and not ever will be bigger than it was today in a game with. I'm sure that the US had a really strong contingent of fans there. I'm sure the American outlaws were amazing. But like this is in France, as you know, I know France haven't played well really to the level that we thought we might see from them. So. In this segment. But like this is the game that they had circled. I'm sure heading into this just like we had I'm sure they're fans were absolutely geeked up for this game. And so, for that early goal to come and just knock France back, it's, it's just massive like I don't know if you can really even say enough, how huge that was to get that sorely on, we'll some Borden was tweeting prior to the game saying home money shouts and roars and how very noticeable LA blue was from the stadium and from the surrounds of the stadium. So yeah, it was it was certainly a crow that was up for the game. And, and look fifty eight seconds on the clock. When Judy arts how to shot that put the keeper full-stretch. All right. It was a comfortable save for for body. But at the same time, it was a shot across the bows. Early can I say something about there was a little bit debate about because the US were wounded for so long in this game. There was a sense. Well, that early minute that early fifth minute goal was something, something of a fluke. So there was a two-man wall. First of all, Alex Morgan, mixed out run down the left, which brings him back bath, the with her, and she falls, Alex Morgan. It's brilliant run. And she gets the wrong side of him back by the creates this free kick for repeal Andrew repaint was deliveries. I said, ad nauseam prior to the tournament that I don't think they can win this tournament without Megan repaint inform from just are open play. But also from her set-pieces it was such a good set piece again. And it's something that we've seen earlier in the tournament against Sweden from this team. It will all be. It was from a corner, kick in that instance are sorry. Excuse me. It was at the corner kick against Spain. I'm forgetting when he said pieces that they've had, but she whips it into the near post with pace, on Judy arts mixed this run across Andrew unheard -als the bowl, the sensually on that ruin completely distracts, the Spanish defense. On our excuse me. The French defense and the bowl flies into the net on it's such a well works at peace. And the contrast with that was France had plenty of good set-piece positions in this game. And the policy was fined Renard and more often than not accept with the goal. They didn't find her at all. There were over hit crosses. There was crosses hit onto the net. There was set pieces that were over hit our that we're easily with by the taller players on the US team. It was such a contrast to see whether worked fought full incisive set-pieces, rather than the one set-piece Francine to hub well, I would like to shout out Jill Ellis for this because she for whatever reason she just takes more criticism than she does praise whether it be for lineups elections. Or whether it be from former players like hope solo that are calling her leadership, qualities, but, like they're, they're set piece playboy. Look like it was Sweden's manager that said before their game that there's no country in the world that has the depth of playbook on set pieces, like what the US have and just look at the way that they capitalize on it and each and every game. And once again, I mean, there's it just feels like there's always a little bit of different wrinkle that you haven't seen before. And you wonder how much deeper can they continue to go because they're still gets deployed, obviously, they're gonna have to go back to the well, a gun on set pieces, and they've just like they just they built up so much collateral. Like you just believe in them now on all of these set pieces, just how deadly they're going to be. Yeah. It's interesting that you use the word deep there. Because for the second for the first half after the goal, I mean it was the twelve minute Andrew before, France, had the really the first chance and it was only a half chance it was a head or from less. Oh man. Who was would which which went wide? And you didn't trouble the US goal. And you know the US continued to make chances on sixteen minutes. There was a. Almost a won't be one. Chase between repaint no body. And it was good taxi from body present prevented repeatedly going round to our then forty-three minutes, crystal dawn how to shot forty six minutes Mulas had had an opportunity as well, like France in that first half were, honestly for most of the game were really disappointing on didn't really caught the US open at all. So I read it out in the heat and in the intensity of the game was there a chance that the US with do what they've done before in games, which was particularly against Spain, the start at second half against Spain where they seem to wilted, a bit in terms of energy. But here's here's what I wanna talk about. It was pointed out by Robbie muscle on Twitter. Big called from jealous moving Julia arts into a back three system change at one nil. It worked out Andrew. Let me talk about the start of the second half the start of the second half, you had a brilliant, chances, particularly, it was a almost a double chance from use who put a body full length and then the follow up safe from Tobin heath. And after that, Andrew, it was pretty much all France for some reason on almost by designed by taking out in the midfield creating almost a fight for one the US invited pressure that I don't think France, would it be able to create if we kept playing our normal attacking game on? This is where Djilas is going to come in for criticism. We seem to fall deep. We seem to invite them onto us and in a way we're lucky that they had such a dark, the creativity surprises me that, that the US will play that way. Yeah. They're just so lethal, not. And look, I don't mean this as any slight against their defense because I do believe that they have great players in the back. As well. But we all know what their strength is we talked about it all tournament long midfield, and the attack is just like this. That's where this team is going to win tournaments and hopefully this one like I just I don't care what the score is or who the opponent is I'm just surprised that they would cater their game to anyone else. I just feel it seemed to be always be to kind of go forward, and regardless of what the score is like more or but, but that's the point. It did they seem to be across purposes. We hear them talk in the wake of the Thailand and Chile gains, we're going to kill you and we're gonna kill you again. We're gonna kill you to your dead twice. We're going to keep attacking and, and that's our attitude. And I respect that they say that they won't change it for anyone, but they seem to change it for France today. They fell backwards. And I said, at the top of the show, I felt, they should have been more resounding win for the US, but they seeded the bowl day almost accepted that France weren't going to do anything and possession on, it's worked, it's worth seeing the brilliant game. Teams that are tied when she dropped into that became a kind of third centerback sewer Brown Dowd Kemper. You know, it was really something to performance that they put in. So let's talk about to turning point in this game quit. I just want to spend on something you were just talking about there with the way that they were seeding position to France. I forget, who it was the tweeted, somebody tweet about the US and the style that they were playing in the second half that they were making sure to still leave to players. Hi. So I just wonder if it was almost like, well, Andrew dot change with France are gonna like pushing forward and attacking at some point. We'll get them. We have these two players. Hi, Alex Morgan and whoever of, you know if they'll be ready to pounce, on the counter. Yeah. I and that's and that's clearly a game plan and we'll get to that in terms of the second goal, but often Andrew, it was, it was more four five one with with Alex Morgan doing God's work. They're doing that, that lonesome a sole striker chasing down loss causes on an oftentimes not. Being involved in the play. But if there was a swing moment in this game. Now, people can talk about the chance that the French had in terms of our sorry, the chance that we had in terms of you know making this game three nil. We'll get it up. But I will new fifty seven minutes. Andrew Krystal Donna, Donna brilliant job in shackling, and marshalling Diani. But the anti gets down the line, she gets to the Boylan. She cuts it back, there's a cross put to the back post and the bowl is not dealt with by the US defense or the goalkeeper, and it breaks to summit, Lisov, and the whole right side of the goal is gaping. Andrew, there's a few defenders in front of our. Listen Nair is kind of position that whole right side. Is there an Andrew, she pulls that ball into the side and for that moment? I thought that is I mean, it was the best chance to that point that the friendship carved out. And when they didn't score, it, it was absolutely huge, and it was a swing moment. And it sounds like I know she wasn't called his action there. But it sounds like listen, there did kind of have that performance that I think Americans fans wondering about, like, okay, what kind of keepers you're going to be a huge save late to help preserve it? So I mean in your estimated like France are, are a great team. I don't wanna sell them short. I don't think they are US held them. Well, no. I don't think they are. I'm sorry, Andrew aspire to many performances. That were below power for them to, to be considered a great team compared to the US. I'm I'm Dino re was not up to it. They, they set pieces generally were not very, very good. The any six of their nine goals in this were on set pieces. I can't be that critical of what France were throughout the Cup on the set fee. But that's pointless when you get to the quarter-final, and you can't deliver one and also stored on one. In the entirety of the game. And that was the only one they could muster. And it was it was one. What's normal, like one scoring on one set piece in a game? I think most coaches would probably sign up for that Andrew Andrew, Andrew. This is a team playing at home, and they're playing on front of their crowd. And they've got what we're told is the best one of the best midfielders in, in world football. And probably is when she pays for Leon, we've got you got on re you've got Cascarino on the bench, who probably could've come in soon, or Diani was so, well, marshalled, Keyvani, did not have the chances that she even carved out against Brazil, and if you look at the X g Andrew the score was two one. It was wom- point three for the French so that one point three, I mean, come on, I, I'm struggling, I remember save in the second half or Nair tip the ball over. But it was comfortable that was from I believe Lisov a kind of a half overhead kick. But, like really, I know that the US sat deep and everything, but France, they did not create any chance. Well, I don't know how many times I saw Margie go down, the left hand side on swing over across the no-one are onto the net on top of the net right over the crossbar date, they were poured the US are markedly better team than this. What was frustrating for US found was that they did not take the game to them in the second half and finish this thing. Look, I don't mean to be suggesting that the US didn't deserve to win. I hope that's not how what I'm saying is coming across what I'm just trying to suggest that. Maybe we need to be giving the US defense a little bit more credit, rather than just simply saying that France are way worse than we thought not. Here's, I'm going to break down for, you know, very, very simply what I'm saying is this, the US defense was brilliant, but it was brilliant in that it invited. The midfield the changes that were made invited the French to have more possession, and they were bone to give that back going. A little more trouble Miami is that there would have been no trouble whatsoever. If we'd stepped up speaking of what really was the decisive moment in the game. The goal on sixty five minutes. Andrew was actually against the run of play. But it was a wonderful wonderful goal. And look to of the best players combining to set up the best player on this team. He. To across that goes fre- repeat. And you can just I love her. I love her. You can just hear the crowd and the noise, the I probably was fifty fifty in the stadium account shore. But just the, the sense the, the crowd shots after that goal under. There was some crowd shouts of French fans and the deflation, that dot goal brought to make a tuna, and obstinately suck. Delighted a French and that was sorts of good goal because it was Morgan and heath pretty much isolated wealth to feed on the right hand side on the create this little wound to Morgan was Morgan was in a way outside of goal scoring today. She played in a way that was just so selfless for this team and the work she did even towards the end and running down the clock and holding up the ball was brilliant. But you did see that I saw at the end of stuff it's, you know, down the near sideline drawing fell, I was most curious about her because I remember at the end of our last. Odd cash talking about the US woman, you suggested the possibility that you would consider dropping her didn't seem right. Yeah. And it sounds like she redeemed herself and her work, it's unbelievable. She takes a lot of Knox in the role that she plays, especially when we're going to see possession, and she's almost an out ball. But I do think. In my opinion, it's not a it's not a knock on Alex Morgan to say that maybe you could look at the introduction of Kristen press a little bit earlier. But as it turned out in today's game she was perfect for it. But that goal again the combination to release heath on the cook back to repaint was just perfect as well. And I think it was I'm not even sure was at muse who was running onto it as well. And it was a late arrival in the box. No. The French did not help themselves. Rennert was sucked. Completely out of position in buck body was pulled across. There was gaps everywhere you could driven a truck through them, but again, it's repeal popping up and the coolest finishes to slotted home Andrew. It was a really really great goal. I just drove by a deer, by the way. Beautiful. Dear nice summer coat. Fully in anyway. I feel like the deer. So more this game than you did buy. I will I saw this one of my favorite moments of like I'm trying to think maybe my. My lasting image of this tournament, when it's all said and done going back to Meghan repeat, oh, I sec after her first goal on the free kick just like the run over to the crowd and the pose, like if there were, if there's ever a row outside of the US soccer headquarters just statues of famous moments in US soccer history. I feel like that just Negra Pinos pose in front of the crowd after that first goal needs to become some sort of bronze statue. I agree with you on it's, it's on the front page of sport. Football for the guardian tomorrow, in England the edition, a friend of mine Sachin that cranny was the sub editor and his headline is pretty pressing considered considering the week that repeat was had on the controversy surrounding everything that's happened, including her little common to a magazine but the headline goals. Ruthless repeatable shows just why she has US is Trump card. Oh, by the pun. Yes, indeed, and I thought we'd save. There was a lot of people who really wanted us to discuss the back and forth, while, not the backend fort really the president's tweets the other day regarding Meghan repeat owner Commons to eight magazine but I think we might save that for next week for a male by because honestly I wanna make the football on the field tonight. The, the sole focus of the podcast, because it certainly was for Meghan, repay. No. And anybody who thought the I suppose the controversy are the distraction of the president's tweets, we're going to affect her. It really wasn't the case. No, I think you had to say, well, maybe Dennis factor like maybe this pushed her on. And maybe like you get some athlete that not rise to the occasion. When people wonder which way they're going to go. What's the cliche about thresher at birthplace or creates diamonds, maybe that's kind of a little bit of what happened negative penal tonight? Maybe we found out just how well see cokes. What can potentially be a stressful situation for someone off? Well, you know, me, Andrew, I adore to read, and there's such a great piece released today, which was very timely right before the game by ESPN, and you can read it on ESPN FC. It's by Gwendolyn oxen ham, Gwendolyn oxen. How does a piece on probably the real motivation behind Meghan repaint, which is our brother Bryan on looking to say anything about this story except it's the most read piece of the summer in terms of women's World Cup on this US women's national team. It is an unbelievable piece. And if you think, you know, Meghan ripping on what drives are what inspires are and what actually was her gateway into the game, then you don't know anything until you read this piece, Gwendolyn oxygen Heim on ESPN FC is worth, a read Andrew, we're going to take just a short short break, because what we're gonna do is. We're going to do some adverts because they pay the bills I love. Watching your windup incident, so grateful, we'll what would you like me to say? Andrea. Just read it. Would you know what I'm gonna say Andrew, what I'm going to say that hymns? They're back again. And you've heard us talking about hymns, and they are helping guys look their best. 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No. Well, let's be honest two goals in two consecutive games in World Cup is very impressive thing for her to do. Can I talk about the end of the game Andrew, because the US go to two-nil up? And then there's the I suppose. Controversy. I don't know what you want to call it the Tobin heath offside goal. And I've looked at it, and I'm not sure that crystal don's offs. I it really in terms of a controversial moment. It wasn't that controversial because they got glossed over very, very quickly on like everything else in this World Cup. Seems to have been looked at the microscopic detail. This one was glossed over very, very quickly as to be fair was the Kelley, O'Hara handball. Let's talk about the Tobin he goal was a wonderful move. And I'm of sorry that it wasn't counted. Again, I think it was malice mortgage. Alex Morgan who, who played crystal Donen on the overlap, and then who centered to Tobin heath? But apparently dones, Rhone was a little bit early in the flag went up. I'm not so sure about it. Nothing really happened. The play went on the. Eleo harra, handballed knowing. No, you didn't get a proper look at it. So a week ago guys that is definitely more certainly a penalty. But in this game today, eight isn't and the referee doesn't there's no stoppage in play whatsoever. She does the quick cross arms not even thinking about it and on goes to play. And I watched the replay, and it would have been it in my sense of what humble is it would have been totally harsh by the current rule. Maybe it would have been harassed too, but the way these things have been cold. I was fully expecting a penalty and it didn't happen. So that was a stroke of luck within the game. I don't know what is or isn't it a handball anymore? I have given up and throw light hands up in the air, and waiver happens having now, I simply I honestly I don't know because I. Thought it was one thing, and I started to get a good grasp on it, but then they are world suddenly felt like anything any contact with the hand in the box, once it goes, the VAR is going to be giving. So for this to not be given today. I feel like now moving backwards at regressing in my understanding of what actually is and is not a handball and you know what I actually I feel good about that. And I feel I feel no shame in saying that out loud, because I don't care there is no expert. There's no person out there who can definitively tell me what's right. And what's wrong because no one knows what June I be ruling on Hon ball would suggest that look it was this whole thing where they talk about silhouette would suggest it wasn't a humble. But my point is simply that everything seemed to be given a week ago. And now it's not. So maybe there's been addicted to the referee to cool it a little bit certainly not was glossed over so quickly. And by the way, we got on with it. I mean, the French aren't I haven't really heard any quotes from the French book? You know, the game was the referee exit out wasn't happening and the game moved on there wasn't even a stoppage in play prior to. That was the renar goal. And it was really the first French set piece that was executed perfectly anti any delivers on Renard, who was just fantastic, just as Juilliard for the US Renard is for the French and that was a goal and things got a little bit nervy then four goals for her on set pieces in the tournament and just looking back at that one like probably is no bigger set piece threat in this entire firmament than rent are. So to see her running all those three down the middle of the boss to score that goal. It was it was at least a little bit alarming. I would say from a defensive perspective. Yeah, it was alarming Andrew. But again, also say this apart for the chance was huge. There was a chance in the seventy eight th minute boat. There was a non reshot in seventy seven minutes that didn't really troubling there. There was the, the seventy eight minute chance where tips over from the again, it was kind of flicked volley, but it was straight overhead, and it was very comfortable for a goalkeeper of listeners quality to save you know there was one cross. I remember to the fire police, which typical French-style for tonight was totally over his that. That listen here went to catch our. I don't watch you went to do. She went out. She got lost in traffic in the ball went over. That was lucky. But really Andrew. I mean, the US coped so comfortably with the French attack that I was really quite surprised. Now I do. Like I say, I don't think they used the anti correctly. They played are a little bit too white. She never seemed to run in the gap between the centre half and crystal don't and when she did dones recovery speed was brilliant, and she executed a great taco in the second half. But, you know, the US were comfortable, and I honestly believe, and this is the this is the real talking point going into the England game. Jill ellis. She's restricting this team after they went one up and I'm not sure why you're right. I, I don't know. And I wonder if she'll do that, again because coming off three New England right now. Look like one of I mean obviously there into the semi finals, but even before today inland look like they can make a case for being right? There with the US for best team in the tournament. I know a lot of praises given to Germany, and to France. But it seems like at least in terms of on field performance England task those two teams and probably feels pretty good about themselves going into this game against the US before we really three that, though. I just wanna get your final take on. I guess what the legacy is for this French team because there was so much so much excitement about them. So many people pick them over the US before the turnament started with tournament being in France. And just like we talked about earlier, like it just feels like they never quite got going. They never quite really came close to fulfilling whatever the expectations were that have been set for for it. Yeah. I looked going into the tournament. They were trying to check this tag of chokers. They were trying to deal with the expectation of Leon of dawn, they were probably looking ahead to the semi final, which will be in Leon thinking it's a home game for us in every sense of the word. We're so familiar with the stadium. You know, it's, it's interesting, the point being that the host nation either gets grit drive and momentum from being at home, or that they will to under the pressure and feels as if they will too little bit under the pressure. But Andrew, honestly we've been saying since the start of the tournament, we feel this French team has been playing within itself. There was every opportunity for Brazil have knocked them out. There was nothing in that game that suggested to me that the French were were emerging. We're getting better each game. We were saying they got through they did the needful. But were they really what we expected? It seems a little bit like a team of individuals. Unlike the US or even England who play in certain patterns, who have a definitive style of play. I could never see that with the French, and you can name the, the talent that they have from on re from embody from Renard go on. Front. The anti, you know is like this. This brilliantly creative player, Lisov Diani Cascarino on the bench. But Andrew, there's just no real definitive style of play. And in the end they never found an identity that never phone momentum. And ultimately, the better team won despite the tactics of Jill Ellison, that second half interesting, though. Because they, they, it's easier forget now because the performance of have gone downhill since, but I remember texting you during the opener of tournament, the France Korea gate, and baking, like, wow. Okay. They are actually as good as what we've heard 'cause that was it ended, I think it was only three nail but it felt like it could have been way worse than that. I remember saying to you, South Korea not even gonna have the shot in this game. They finally did the seventy second minute, but the inspire game at felt like was played in the French half. And I remember thinking watching that, that they really could be threat, and they just I don't know if it was just that South Korea was kind of just poor competition, or if France really just kind of went downhill from that moment on. They never were able to recapture whatever it was that they had in that. Opener yet to be honest with you, Andrew. There was a phoney war that was executed in the group stages for a few of these teams. France included the minute they step foot against Brazil, you could see that they have problems and to be honest, there problems that the US have not exhibited and the better team won today without a question shadow of a doubt for me. Even though they see possession for so much of it. And yeah, the French they go on, it's, it's hugely disappointing for them that to not even make the semi final when they're at home is going to be a body blow, but look that that Leon team will continue to dominate European football, I would expect and we'll see the French again but maybe under a different manager maybe with a different style of play. Yeah, it's a bummer for them. They're a little bit of victim of circumstance. I'm sure you know, they would never admit it. But when they saw how the matchup, we're gonna go, and how the US like even when the groups were initially revealed, and they saw God like that. It's going to have to happen in the quarterfinals. You know, I'm sure that they would say they were excited about it. This is what World Cups are you wanna play and beat the best teams but down inside? I'm sure they were thinking all gods like this. We get this World Cup on our home soil, and we have to deal with them at the earth, this early stage. It's a little bit cruel for team that was considered the second favorite to win the whole thing have to face, I ever saw early on. But now that's that's just kinda how these events can go, there seemed to be a level of deep frustration at you know Avery was a lot of misplaced passes with a lot of hands going to face there was. I mean when again I go back to when, when this me, miss dot chance and drag it into the site, and that there was a look to the heavens. Almost as if this just isn't going to be our night. It's not going to happen. No real quick, while you're talking about that. This is something that I talked about in basketball a lot. I have my all bad body language team like there, there's some players that like are so overly demonstrative. And I just wanna shake and be like stop being so down like that isn't helping anyone. I'm trying to think in soccer who would be on my all bad bodyline, esteem, definitely Cristiano Renaldo. But I I've seen row Madrid score goals. But because like a pass wasn't made to him when he thought he could have scored like he doesn't even celebrate them. He is. He is the captain of the all bad body lay. Well he can kill you with a glare. I mean I mean he pretty much has destroyed Gareth Bale's career with the glare. I mean he ruined his confidence for period. Yeah, there's, there's guys like that. I remember maybe it's just because he never stopped off in, but Craig Bellamy was one of those. I mean Craig Bellamy did a famous post-match. View after losing to think it was Finland and a qualifier for Wales prior to Wales being actually good. It's about ten years ago, I guess, and he just said, I don't know where he was asked where do we go from where do we go from here? Craig jono. All I mean they're just terrible out there. We weren't up to it Geno, and he was just so upset. It was almost like he was going to start crying, and his, his body language both on and off the field in that game was something Andrew, before we get into the final segment where we give our, our final thoughts. I've got another -nother ad for people to enjoy ready sponsors can't get enough of this holiday loves the absolutely loves, Andrew Juno. If you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business, but the problem growing businesses have that keeps them from knowing their numbers. Is there hodgepodge of business systems, I'm always telling you? We don't know our numbers. They have one system for accounting another for sales, another for inventory, and so on. It's just a big inefficient mess. I'm always saying this. 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I don't know what this actually sounds like, but maybe the listeners are hating me on the on the phone. The MacArthur hitting you. Anyway. That's fair. But this is very enjoyable for me. Like my ride is flying by feel like this is like our answer to comedians in cars getting coffee. This is just like podcast or in car driving to his vacation destination. I think ultimately, it's Andrew, it's big. You're enjoying it so much because of that is your mantra that will always be your mantra decided that for me. Yes, you so looking ahead guess we need to talk about cer- Philip of Neville, and his lionesses. Yeah, I suppose that we do now I received really gonna test the limits of, of the anglophile that I am. But obviously that all gets pushed aside, for coming up, July second so their performance against Norway was heralded in a way that against the performance against Cameroon was not. And there were many distractions pretending dot game. But let's just deal with, with what the US are facing. This is a team that is definitely as a footballing site at least much improved from twenty fifteen and seem to be under Phil Neville. You know, playing ball and playing style that could be quite dangerous for the US. Yeah. I mean, look, they we've talked about the, the threats from the French team England have many of their own, like we talked about Nikita Paris before this tournament started how lethal she can be Steph out. And there's you know it's a very dangerous team that right now like we talked about how France may be a good team that played badly of although we kinda disputed just how good they actually are. But England right now, seem to be a, a good team that are playing almost maybe beyond themselves so well so much hype was foisted on the US France matchup, and they actually wind up with this matchup against England could be the most difficult getting that the US have in this tournament. Yes. And I just want to talk about their side of the play their ability to combine their ability. Depend through the lines. There's, there's a couple of teams out of stood out for me. Like, obviously, the US are, are the class of this tournament again on almost every level, you can imagine. Organizationally. In terms of their skill levels. Technically in terms of physicality, but England are so improved from two thousand fifteen and Canada, and they were very good then as well. But their ability to, to create combinations, onto move defenses around is going to present a challenge that the US haven't face fire, and it was interesting this morning, our colleague, our former colleague, g g she tweeted at me. She was just watching the highlights of England Norway. And she said, I are they the form team right now in the tournament outside of the US, obviously, I would think you'd have to say the absolute we are. One hundred percent. Then, like, look, I, I know what going back to the Cameroon match like all that, all that stuff that happened that game overshadow, the fact that like that was a, you know, controversial calls are not England, like they dealt with a lot in that game like there were moments where they probably could have cracked a little bit and gotten frustrated themselves in response to some of the way that Cameron was playing, and they, they really like we lost that. And Phil Neville's message because he came down so hard on Cameroon but, you know, you forget, he praised England and their ability to just stay mentally strong in that game. I mean, there's talented and then, like, do you mixing that component to where they're just seems like they're not gonna break again? I think the key thing that I looked for is that early goal like what we talked about that the US just that against France, and Spain like, maybe that could be the one thing that will rattle inland because I do once again, think that it's the US playing in a semi final, and there's. Going to be an intimidation factor, whether it will admit that or not that they can get that first punch in, like once again to settle any nerves on the US side, and maybe allow some doubt to creep on the west side, it would just be huge Francis experiencing record temperatures at the moment, and Paris. Tonight was eighty five degrees, which is pretty warm. It's, it's, it's New York warm right now. I'm sure it had pro maybe less you Midi, although I can't be under percents uncertainly it seemed hot on that field. Now, the south of France, a listener tweeted us that she was in Marseilles, on it was a hundred one. Oh, down there, which is degrees Fahrenheit, now, that is singer, not as not, not celsius. Thank you for clarifying. Well, I often deal in sociology. So I'm just trying to once you said it was a hundred and one, I think celsius went out the window. You're really testing my patience to saving. But, but Andrea, my point being is that we move farther south for this game on I don't know whether weather forecast is for Tuesday, but that could be a real factor in this one who can deal with conditions. Yeah. I mean, sometimes, I think stuff like that it's a little bit overrated like heat heat affects everyone. I mean so I don't know. That's something that can be used in hindsight to make an excuse for why it goes one way or another. But ultimately, I guess, if, if we are going to pretend that, that is a factor. You would say that, that favors the west has to. Yeah. I think I think the US are, are more used to playing in those conditions for sure. By the way, Phil Neville's, brother. Gary is has prepared a bit of commentary for a the should the English team score are should they win the game. Shoehorned that, oh, anywhere could get it in but it's gonna look it's such. It's in the fledgling management career of, of Phil Neville, who was not a universally welcomed member of this team. Initially, this is such a huge game for him. And you consider what happened to him at, at Valencia you consider what happened in terms of his hiring for this job, where, again, there was a lot of people saying, well, should they have gone with the different manager, a more experienced manager our manager from in the realm of of the English women's game. He's done exceptionally, well, and this is what a moment for him. It's so interesting to see players like it almost makes you feel old a little bit to watch these guys kind of rewrite their legacies, like Phil Neville is now, potentially rewriting his legacy where he could be. He could go down remembered more as the manager of the England England women's national team than he did as a player like. Earth. Southgate may go down remembered more as the manager of England's national team that he did as a player. We're in that phase now like Frank Lampard becoming manager. Like, I feel like it's just it's kinda fun watching new legacies get written over top of like what previously existed for some of these great players. Yeah. I mean guard soak it a, you know, reasonably reasonably distinguished playing career yet you're right? Like, his, his management career will. I mean, I'm sure he's the I, I wouldn't wanna talk about his time at Middlesboro, but since he got involved with twenty ones, but particularly since I'm honored ICES left. He is he's being a man. He's being a man changed, and you're right. His legacy will really be last summer. So it is interesting to see those, and that's not new. I mean like pig about pep Guardiola great player all time, great player Barcelona Spain. Well, what's going to be talked about more? He'd be remembered, he'll be remembered probably more as a manager than ever would have been as a player, even though he was quite brilliant, player and played. Absolutely. We should also mention before we get out on through the Gold Cup has moved onto its latest honeymoon destination, which is curse sow the US will pick or so after beating Panama more nil in the quarterfinal of the Gold Cup that is going to be Sunday. It question. Yep. I've been having a mental struggle with this, and you happy moment. So when I initially saw the like way, the bracket shook out where the US are going to be facing cure sow, and then more likely than not Jamaica. Although I guess, Jamaica Panama taker tech and I saw Mexico and Costa Rica vote on the other side you know, there was part of me. Oh, yes. Like the road is paved. But then I kinda recoil the little bit more about. I was like, you know, I don't know that this tournament. Honestly, I wanna win it. And if the US do win I'm gonna feel good about it. Will celebrate it. And we'll be happy. But I don't know that this term. Tournament for the US was always supposed to be about winning it, which sounds ridiculous to say, but I feel like it was kind of almost like a mile marker test, like, okay, where are we at, in our road back to relevance, like, and it's a little bit harder to know that no offense to them when you're competition in the quarterfinals of this tournament is curious. So it's a great story. I can't believe they made it this far. And even if they get thrashed and knocked out at this stage. They'll remember this experience incredibly only but in terms of the US, like, yeah, it's good. We wanna keep winning. We want to win the tournament. But like in the overall meaning of what this tournament was supposed to be about. I don't know just how helpful that is. Honestly, I tweeted out that it was the right time to make all those changes against Panama dot the Berhalter did completely changing swapping his eleven's 'cause he needs to know he doesn't get a chance to see the entirety of a squad in a competitive game. Outside of world. Copepod -cation on. And as we've discovered it's too late to be testing things out. You want to know where you're at join World Cup qualification. So it was the perfect opportunity to test guys like Jordi Mahela to test Jonathan Lewis to stoke Shawn Johnson to test out Christian role. Dan, in a competitive game and see where these guys are at and see how they cope in competitive game on. And if we lost upon them, I are drawn with them or whatever permutation would have ended up that we meant to Jamaica. So what like this is the kind of competition where playing Concha this, you know. The five were bankers means it's a bit of a you're expecting him to put out his full team for the quarter-final and win that game. But what if anything we can take from it? I don't know. But the but the point being is that this gold Corp gives you the chance to play competitive games and experiment with your squad at the same time. Honestly, it can't be be all and end all to win it. You want to win it, but you need to find out about your squad because when it comes to World Cup qualifying. This is a team in the last cycle that won't once on the road once against Saint Vincent in the Greenwich island. So he needs to know that squad insight out making eleven changes was was a step towards that in my view, curious, eat feels like he does know his first team at this point. I think he does. I think he does barring injuries. I think he knows. I think he knows what he wants to do with this side. I think he he obviously. Wants to, to find out who are the guys because in the course of a season when you come to an international break, and, hey, western McKinney is a knock for Charlotte, Christian pulisic, as a knock for Chelsea, not me as available, you need to know who are the guys that can come in and do a job for you. A way to Honduras are away to Guatemala or whoever it may be that's important. And this is the way that you find out. Yeah. Def mattered. We have learned that many times over my last question about this. I know you've gotta run Josie first Josse. Box. Neck and neck for me. I don't think there's a huge amount in it to be honest with you, not a huge amount Josie. Looked a bit rusty the other night that was a one lovely move that involved, Jordan Mars and Georgie Mahovic and the ball was played into to Josie. And I don't know that it gets stuck on his wrong fourth, but he turned the defender and it opened up. And really Andrew all the to do was put it left or right. Of the keeper with any amount of pace. I'm not was one nil or tuna or whatever that would have been on. Yeah. He didn't do it. And it just looked a little bit rusty authority took his goal. Very well. It was close in, but it was still good athletic execution to do it. But honesty, it's very little between Zyrtec and altered. Or right now out the door, shading it with more goals and a little bit more experienced than the Columbus Crew. Although I mean artist he's not gonna be lacking for experience and I know Josie has the edge there, but Josie hadn't played for the US since October twenty seventeen. So I feel kind kinda cool to me late now. Like I know we hold Josie in a bit of a different regard that we do artists, but, like artists so far in his term, and has really done everything that he's been asked to do. He's been scoring goals. That's always been. The one thing that people have felt uncomfortable about with seeing that number nine position is like, you know, okay, maybe hold up play. But ultimately, you need that number nine to be scoring goals to can he do that. Well, now he is it would just feel like like poor guy like he's. Finally, he's finally doing that for us now and he's going to get yanked out. Once we get the latter stage of the competition. I don't know kinda wanna curious about, like watching him go for a little bit here. These continue to be that guy. Yeah, that's true. That is true, you'd like to seize development and wearing takes you. Honestly, I think with czars, I'm not saying, I'm definitely not saying that bear halter doesn't want fit and ready, Josie Alto or but I'm not sure that even when he says, oh, well, if I'll to fit he starts. I, I don't even believe that to be the case, I think is very little between it and I do think that being such a systems guy that he is he wants somebody, he knows. And he wants czars to be available on to start. So we might see somewhat of a changing it guard there while what a rousing American podcast. This was like our teams or the both winning now. We're happy. I'm actually wearing my, my US soccer jersey. I worked at this event today. Proudly much. I will say that it is I feel uncomfortable, wearing this jersey sometimes because this is the, the US jersey that the men were during the failed qualification campaign. So I like is that a jersey that I should retire should I probably get a new one? No take it to your rabbi and get it cleansed. And then just then just for safety take to Catholic priest and organiz exercises. And it'll be fine. Why twenty two by the way, I break up the American love fest, for one second because in Copa America, it's worth noting that Brazil got through the, the, the Manny packed buses of Paraguay. She'll be put it that the Paraguayan bus company to win on penalties on Argentina got over Venezuela today to book a spot against Brazil in the corporate America semi final that is on Tuesday at it thirty. So I'll be honest match up. What a match what a day. What today a football. And so there's only one way to describe. They are. There's only one chant the calendar has been settled so perfectly that you gotta say go up. Yeah. All right. But like these aren't all fief of things the World Cup is. But, like, where's our let's go Concha capital. Let's go kandebow middle. Well, that's CONMEBOL for giving us such a mo- watering matchup and hopefully the game lives up to it. And I think it might actually both teams are still riven with with worry about their performances. I'm where their team onto managers really won't say, I won't say cheese on the hot seat, but certainly expectations are there's a lot of pressure on the guy in skeleton equally. So just want to say that if Argentina do win this Dame. This is the new recordholder like Guinness Book of world records holder for quickest narrative change in history. But. He will be the anointed one. It's going to be unbelievable. Yeah. It's crazy. The way this game works, obstinately crazy. So I guess we should we will be recording a podcast choose tonight. That's when you can expect the next one and. I guess you will be still on vacation. That is where I'm going. So I will be there. All right. Nice one. So Andrew listen any final thoughts are as that you're pretty much you've you've driven all your thoughts out. I pretty much have. Yeah. Like I just I don't know every test every new obstacle that gets laid down before this US women's team. They just continued to make it happen. I think Spain was a little closer than we thought we always knew France is going to be taught. And maybe they didn't play exactly the way you would've liked the second half. But ultimately, they find a way and whatever your expectations were before the tournament. I know for me it was for them to win this entire thing. I feel good about having felt that way this team is validated. Everything that everyone thought about them coming in, and I hope they keep going all I can say to that Andrew is that there was woman tonight, who put her body on the line created the second goal. I thought she had an excellent game. And, and this is one of our drops that, I think Mike Brown sugar, one of our friends and colleagues who works at ESPN he needs to get a mentioned for this. Right. That's the best way to run this off. So I guess everybody we will see you choose to you. I say thank you letter, from Bonn, take care, Andrew. You're listening to caught off side. Soccer podcast.

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France Survive, England Furious

"This show is presented by Hulu, which has live sports, watch live games, and all your favorite teams live on Hulu. No cable required. Live TV plan is required. Restrictions apply. Welcome in episode sixteen of ESPN AFC special coverage of the two thousand nineteen women's World Cup alongside World Cup Olympic champion and a three time all American during her distinguished playing career at the university of Notre Dame K Markgraff laughing in the background, I'm Sebastian Salazar. It is great to be with you, Kate. I'm going to pull back the curtain here. A little bit for folks. We have a huge show plan for today, and we were gonna lead with an interview with one of your former teammates variable cat who's going to get us all ready for USA Spain. She played for almost a decade with the Spanish national team. They're all time leading score going to get some great perspective, then England Cameroon happened and all the controversy about the game itself the comments after the game. So like, okay, we're gonna lead with England Cameron, and then France, Brazil happened. And I feel like that's where we gotta start because we almost saw the hosts and the tournament co-favorites go out. But France does escape they win the game by. Final score of two one goals coming in the second half from Govan in the fifty second minute Thais tied up in the sixty third and then the winner in the hundred and six minute off a set piece Medine on re has France for you. Finally, finally overcome their hurdle because all we did talk about France before this was talk about their history of failure in big tournament. Big moments, this seemed to be that and they certainly didn't fail. I think France that might be, you know, this might be the galvanizing moment, and it came from Anri who did play in the NWS L. Why did she play in the end because she wanted to develop them in tally that the US is famous for? And as you watched that game going to extra time you saw two players kind of step up a little bit more one with Tina who came in as a sub who has not played well, but I thought she actually played decent today in an on reuse saw them doing things to try to make a difference in the game. Like making runs that other players should make. But they made because their players have the legs finding that extra gear. And that type of senior leadership in the big moment can either go, you know, it'll be more of the same that we've seen in, which they buckle under the pressure or they're able to have that mental endurance, and keep the confidence high and the belief that'll come if the keep doing the right thing, which is what mentality is and get on the end of that set piece. But it comes down to France. Again, set pieces. This be the most dangerous team on Sep uses so Francis history in these elimination games is worth noting right now. They've been knocked out in the first game of the knockout rounds at the two thousand sixteen Olympics, the two thousand thirteen European championships, the two thousand seventeen European championships. And at the two thousand fifteen World Cup in Canada. They survived around sixteen but they go out in the second knock-out round, the quarterfinal so is certainly been a big hurdle for them. You mentioned Tina. There was some surprise that guy ton Tina, the number seventeen for France. Wasn't in the starting lineup. She had been pretty much a surefire starter for France. However, if you've listened to any of these podcasts, and you've heard, specifically are segments with Julian Laurent he has been very very adamant. Especially in the last time he was on with us that Tina had not been playing well and should be out of the starting eleven a big move for Corinne, democrat. She made it today, and it seemed to pay off at least the result confirms what I think, is a brave move to pull, this veteran player and what most people consider was a surefire start, and it's interesting. They did look like they're lining up in a four four two instead of their traditional three one. And I think they did that because they wanted to take advantage of Brazil's, centre-back pairing, which has not played well, Kathleen has struggled, and I thought that they want to put Lissa Maher on her to try to explain that it actually hurt them. I thought that they were not nearly as dangerous on the left as they usually are winless, Samir comes out on the left, but just in general, I think the lack of numbers in the midfield played to Brazil in disrupted, their flow, I thought got it wrong, I think she got her tactics wrong to start with. And then when they went to a four to three one aided because again, I'm going to say this. The Dow is not a good coach for Brazil. He pulled out the one destroyer in midfield for meagre in the seventy fifth minute. And once that happened, France was in a four to three one at the game shifted, it didn't become so back and forth. Because France collectively is better than Brazil Brazil has some individual game winners. And that's what on transition. And Brazil had better opportunities because of those individual game winners, and France was collectively better team. And they were lucky that they got aided by a poor coach in Brazil subbing. The best like destroyer isn't a game in for me, go, France, also may be lucky if they didn't go down just before they went up in the hundred and fifth minute. Debbie goes in one on one and actually beats body. Right. And embarked potty comes in just. Off the line. She was at a good game. She was playing better than Renard. Everyone says renards the best centreback the end might make that case of the whole tournament a. Yeah. I am back by has outplayed Renard certainly in that moment came through in the clutch in one of those things that you say, we'll be overshadowed in the short term, but in the long-term like if this French team goes on to win when they do the highlight video certainly that that critical play because at that moment you're looking at Brazil going up with fifteen minutes to play and all the history of France, then starting maybe to collapse on this team. And I wonder if if before on re scores and you were watching that French team. Did you see a team that maybe was a little nervous or haunted by its past 'cause time narratives and I was I was like man when davina gets in behind them like here we go again. Yeah. You know, when I saw it I saw, every time Torah I thought the right back she lost her patience anytime you see France hitting service from forty yards out. From a wide area instead of working down in the final third, and then serving it, that's not their MO. And the minute you see that to me that was a sign of some of the players starting to freak out, I thought Bussan Elliott played horrible and on sediment. She's a little bit older story to place next to Anri she got beat for pace quite a bit. She didn't Mark is on that goal. She was ball-watching. So there were lots of players who didn't play well. And I thought they were the ones but they had enough quality players that were able to turn the game around in those chemo. A yeah. I definitely thought that I was like, oh, God. But then I thought if they're able to turn this around this, France team just got infinitely better like that's the question. Right. Because 'cause this all changes in sixty seconds, right? It goes from Francis, same old France if to being you put that in the net if inbox about he doesn't make that play to. This is a new France. So let's, let's ride that for a second. When your team that hasn't had the moment, and you get a taste of the moment. What does that mean? It means that you now know that you can do it. You think they believe that you think they really I think they do. I think I think they're over the hurdle. I, I do. I think they've got a strong captain, that has got self belief and not only shift self belief. She has the proof of concept. She has the proof that she is correct linked because she's the one who scored now you're gonna ride on that captain all day long. She did not crumble. She's a proven entity now. So now that you have that this whole team will get behind him that goal. It does more than put them in the quarterfinal that goal gives them that little piece that's all been missing. And now they don't have that question of. Well, are they good enough? Are they, you know, destroys that narrative, because I'm sorry, even though Brazil is not the team they used to be they're still very difficult to be. I'm hesitant to use the word deserve to win, but I do think yet, well, because who deserves to win right? Like the team that wins deserves to win. I do think France though as close as this was was the better of the two teams and did deserve to advance specifically because of one key moment in this match. And that's the goal that's disallowed for France early on. Goven and Barbara the Brazilian goalkeeper come together. Now Barbara's the first to touch it, but it's pretty clear at least for me Kate not in, please. If you disagree. I don't need to tell you to chime in when you disagree, you always. But I thought Barbara doesn't have it under control. Pretty clearly in the video. We can see that gov and gets a head shoulder in their knocks it into the goal there's a collision, there's two players down. We, we go to A V A R for something that to me felt unworthy of a review, like there didn't seem to be anything that obvious about what was wrong unless you really believed Barbara had the ball which as we saw on the video replay. She didn't I thought they got that one horribly wrong, you agree Kate. I do I think they anything is now. There's conflicting reports on like I can't figure out what they called the reason why was it because they thought Barbara had the baller they think of ended a handball did you ever find out because I'm trying I had to go on TV and I'm still looking for it just like what is it? So I do believe in karma. We said this after the US from the US would like you know, scoring thirteen goals and I was like, and they're celebrating. I'm like I believe in karma a little bit. I do. And I think that's in the end. France should have won this game that there's Barbara came out fishing, she knew her centrebacks where we. She got too aggressive and for me, I don't think she realized go vans run. Because go van actually came out to be the intended recipient on a throw in. It didn't go to her went to Johnny so she spun out so she made a thirty five yard run out to in was difficult to pick up. And I don't think Barbara when she first looked at our box, and then went back to looking at the ball did not realize the excellent position that go, Ben had I want to bring up one more point about France. Look, they get through the quarterfinals everybody thinks they've got the US could be Spain. But if you're this French team or if your fan of this French team and you just watch this match. There's probably a lot of reasons for you to be optimistic. I'm going to bring up a reason, though, for concern, and it's something you touched in the I think the preview show that we did, or maybe the very first podcast with his French team body. It is just it is a hold your breath moment. Whether it's coming out on a cross or coming out to deal with a one on one or a through ball. She leaves her line. And man, and you are holding your breath, every time every time I actually thought I mean, for instance, have a better somewhere in their system. Can I be asked I missed ten minutes because we are on there and I couldn't watch ten minutes. I have it on my phone, but I didn't know like they asked me, not to look in that moment. So I put it down. I don't know what happened if she made a for ten minutes, but overall, I thought bodies decision making is the question apart. She does have an error inner don't think she had an air her today. You maybe not the not the overwhelming air but nervous moments coming out in like late nervous because we know that she's. Do I have biased? I actually thought she, she plays on that threshold of crazy, no doubt. But I think she was able to execute on that, like where didn't become Aliabad another was one corner specifically where she goes out. And she is a tourist man. She's waving she's waiting. Yeah. She's I don't know. But certainly not the ball. All right. Let's, let's get in on this Brazil team you. You did pointed out, you're very disappointed. You tweeted about it without taking off for Megan in the seventy fifth minute. Look, I what I'll say about this presented him. I didn't expect them to give France is good of a fight as they did. I, I actually think they may be over performed for their skill level today. Really, you don't think so? I think they made France go away from their strength. I didn't they tactically solved. It a little bit. They didn't allow them to use the wings that they wanted they're able to get pressure. But that's also it's because France was complicit when they go out in a four four two, they usually four to three one three central midfielders. They only had to that was very easy for Brazil to stop and the minute. They went to a four to three one saw France start to gain possession. So it's a little bit of both. So I think Brazil they came to play and they played well individually, but I think Francis tactics for, I think Docker got it wrong, and she should be criticized because this game should not have been close to the was. If this is the last time we're seeing Martha in a World Cup. That's it's like the image of her that I want will be guitar in hand. Bright red lips? Into the stadium leading the team. I just think that it was a cool image as she as she walked in, maybe not the star performance or, or the heroic goodbye that she would have wanted. But if it is the end, you know, it, it certainly was a game a crowd, and intensity worthy of, of a of a superstar player. We've haggled over is maybe the greatest of all time. Yeah. On on her best as she was the toughest player I've ever had defended my entire life. I had no chance to ever. Get the ball offer. And even today, someone that is, you know, half as fast she used to be because that was part of it. Yeah she had the skill but then she had to speed in the explosiveness to separate from you to then exploit the space in behind. She didn't have that she doesn't have that anymore. But you still got to see the scale and it said it said I don't know what the Dow was thinking. I don't know when he took me out. There's always rumors that, you know, and who knows. I don't know that Brazil doesn't want their team to do. Well, because they keep siphoning off the resources to the women's. Side. Yeah, we're about the future Brazilian goes on camera. You were in here. She didn't see Martinez on camera. Does this interview thankfully, it's translated because it was came quickly because I was worried that we weren't going to have it in time. And he she basically looks the camera. And she goes, it is up to you, not our federation. Right. She's like it is up to you young women to become part of this team because we're not me. She talks about herself of Christiani, and for me are not going to be here forever. We need you to step up and basically slamming the federation for doing absolutely nothing. And so, yeah, this is a team that gets no resources. So I mean as someone came out me at Twitter like you just want Brazil to win. I'm like, no, I want Brazil tests fans because I wanna see France overcome like obstacle and proved themselves they can do it because I really wanna see a team that, that they could be I wanna see how good they really are when the US beat them, then we know how good we are. But with Brazil, I hate seeing teams that just have no chance and have so many obstacles in their way that don't need to be there haven't passed the quarterfinal round since two thousand seven they've now gone out in the round. A sixteen at the last two World Cups. There's a brilliant article as we say goodbye to Brazil on, on espionage, in that would actually came out before the tournament by Brenda Elsie that talks about kind of all of the surrounding issues that have really bogged down this team. I wanna pull few things out of that, just because I think it's always important to contextualize this stuff. One of which comes from the Dow just before the tournament in may. When talking about his team, he noted that women are particularly difficult to calm down on, that's the manager of the Brazilian women's national team in two thousand fifteen the coordinator of the national team said this, we used to dress, the girls as boys. So the team lacked a spirit of elegance femininity now the shorts are a bit shorter. The hairstyles are modern are more done up. It's a woman, it's not a woman dressed, as a man again, this is Michael out, earlier, kunia, who was in charge of the women's national team has recently as two thousand fifteen the. More societal issues in Brazil, there's a very conservative government in charge now. They've shut down the ministry of culture, sports, and social policy. And you can imagine that issues like gender equality are probably not at the top of their platform. So when I say I'm nervous about the future Brazilian women's football. It's not just the federation, it's societal issues, but there's clearly no shortage of talent like this team should be a quarter-finalist team. I think at minimum when you see the type of players they have been able to produce over the last couple of decades. And yet you look at the atmosphere around the players. I don't know that there's much hope I think this is I think there's a program on the way down idea to unfortunately, I think you constantly see decisions that are being made at that tipping point that if they make at one way. Right. It's not just one decision. It's multiple consecutive decisions that lead you down a path that is really hard to bounce back from. They have never shown that. They want to make the side. Good side. So they've never shown that they want to improve team they'd never invest in a team. They've never put in good coaching. You, you know, it's sad when you have journalists from Brazil tweeting that they think Fidel's purposely trying to lose and that's the journalist covering the Brazilian team. It is a, a truly a sad state for a program that at one point seemed like they were well on their way to being the next kind of dominant power in women's football look, so France Brazil was just a wild game great. But maybe because the teams are bigger brands for man, I shouldn't say bigger brand than England. The England Cameroon match was just crazy. We're gonna get into that in just a second, but first US soccer stars like Tobin heath Carli, Lloyd, Mallory Pugh, and others are getting paid a lot of money by Hulu. 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But I'll let you take the lead what you think of the game England played poorly thought for a team that plays poorly still were able to score three goals. So there, there are positives to this and to our offset pieces one Steph, Houghton anywhere on the left hand side of the box. But that right. Foot is deadly right? And she does get aided the goalkeeper comes out after that back pass. And it was I think it was a correct call by the referee. This is what people need to understand. And everyone's like you guys wanted for this is like you're like, why are you complaining? They're upholding rules that have never been upheld before. And you are having Cameroon in all honesty. It's an amateur side, we're suppo- side, relative, I hate the David and Goliath comparison. I'm over it. So, but this is a bunch of amateurs. Relatively speaking do to the resources in which they have been funded by compared to what England is funded by so they have I guaranteed, they've never had that called on them. It's the correct call by the referee. Agreed. She had missed a red card earlier that elbow. That was throwing the parishes face that should have been Ruko the number four come on. Like, but if you had scouted Cameroon you also known that this is one of the most physical teams in the tournament. And the what I was disappointed with is that they did not play one and two touch. They look slow they look like they did not want to change the point of attack the midfield kept sitting on the ball and only when Lucy bronze came in from the right with a nifty little past unlock Ellen white who was on and correctly done in a tidy finish. That was great when they played quickly could see what they did. I thought they didn't play well they also got rattled by. Cameroon and this is interesting to me, and I think they got rattled, because I don't think they've ever faced the degree of dirtiness that they saw and the dirty using Cameron, dirty today, the elbow to the face random, the one girl got spit on and I Lougee nut spit on. I'm not sure if that was intentional though, because you saw them spitting I was watching Cameron the players were spending all the time. It was a hotter day was a humid day, probably when the more humid days that we've seen in the tournament, and they were just they all were spitting and it was right after the call. She's walking away, Dugan have closer and she spits and it gets on her arm, and Dugan's like and to me, this is a team that has never had the stuff happen to them. And I'm watching England's iza because because they've never been in Concha casper, and they had never been good enough to play against opponents that are clawing and doing anything to win. Right. Because they're always like on parcel bonus. Don't have that, that they don't have that feeling we're playing against like someone who could beat us. We need to do anything. We can they're usually on par or a little bit ahead so opponents. Don't resort to that because they think they have a fighting chance came renew. Do that. They didn't really have a chance, I think, and then minute that, that call goes against them. And that like the first minute right should have been a red. So she got lucky but you could tell she was upset. And so the game was so choppy. Do all the fouls. Very similar to the game. We saw with Germany and Julia but Nigeria didn't get taken out. Right. It didn't bother them. They didn't like get to the point where when the second goals goes goes in and Cameroon doesn't like the fact that bar upholds Ellen white goal that they basically stage a protest. Now, this is on the manager. The manager should've gotten in trouble because he walks off the field angry and it's like saying it's an injustice, the refereeing the ref didn't have control the game. But this is all in Cameroon. I mean, I don't know what more people want the ref to do like, what more could she have done? She can't go and pick him enforce them to play. She can't maybe she can blow the whistle is what she could do and say, hey England. Here you go. Here's a ball. Let's start it. But please do me a favor. Just kick it back, goalies, actually up in this huddle, like, I don't know. I mean, everyone's slag in the referee. It's all on the Cameroonian players. But it comes down from the manager. But again, like I said, this comes because they have no resources. They've never even been in this situ. Nation, you were asking people to handle unemotional situation. They're not prepared for it because they're federation hasn't prepared them. Yeah. Yeah, I to go it in on that, just a little bit. I wonder if like we put some of the Cameroon Cameroonian reaction into context right on you talked about with the Brazilian players before you knew them before you played with them feeling a certain way about them. And then maybe that changing, when you started to understand the atmosphere, you know what they had come from what they had experienced to get to the place that they were trying to get to, you know, you can look at this Cameroonian team. So they played ten games in the building to this World Cup. And then you say, but, like seven of those were against club teams, they only played three international friendlies were they adequately prepared for this World Cup for the things they were going to face in this World Cup for the V A R ups and downs that they were going to face in this World Cup by their federation? I think you have to honestly question that I mean that's, that's kind of the real through the of the I don't know if you felt this way like when I see a player and shoot. Tears. We saw the defender young way like she's cotton slow motion, which makes it look ten times worse jumping smashing down stopping the ground in frustration. We saw the team protests. I just to me felt like total loss of emotional control. I don't excuse it. But I do think, and it is the responsibility of the players. And I think if you wanna point the coach to what I would say, is this to turn it to, like the Phil Neville comments and I'll read them into second. I don't think it was that big of a deal. So if I say that, then I guess, I have to give you what Neville said. He said that wasn't football for me that wasn't a World Cup last sixteen in terms of behavior that I want to see this is going out, worldwide young girls all over the world are going to see that now. That's, that's an insulting infuriating, by the way. Why would he say that? Like if this is a menstrual Cup has he first of all he's never played in the World Cup. Has he not watched Cameroon from the moment that this is happening? Has he not? Bowl has he not watched the men's World Cup in which this is common has he never been an watched has he never watched a CONCACAF qualifying game men, or women people lose? They get pissed off. They get pissed off. You get you down, by the way, you get stuff thrown on you by the fans headquarters thrown at me. There's bags of urine. They get tossed on you like I'm sitting here watching this, and I'm like you are the near you get to create the narrative to your team, you get to shape what the media talks about. And right now, you are showing your immaturity in not in the lack of experience in being seasoned to handle this and be like we need to play butter. We need to play faster one and two touch. I am proud of my girls to be able to play under these circumstances, but we need to be better if we want to win turn the narrative look forward. Instead, you take that moment. And that's when the emotion got the best of them. But that's what happens when you're not experience. He he'd never managed right? A girls team. First of all, he, he hasn't managed at a World Cup. But has never seen a men's role Cup like I know he didn't play in any. But like I just sit here and I'm like, are you kidding me? Like do you any times I just sit there and I'm and I'm reading all these tweets and I just want to I it's a lot. It's a lot of like Pearl clutching. You know it's in key. Oh this role models. Would you really say that you're just like home like, did you level do your did you watch like you were on Manchester? United, Eric Cantona literally went into stance and karate kick someone. Oh role. The note a little boys doing. I don't see little boy, I don't see all the boys that were watching in nineteen ninety-five now kicking people in the stands, right? Or or, or even the report has been like I called home and my eight year old daughter. I didn't want her to see that why wouldn't you, like, well, listen break. So what I'll say, well, I would disagree with you on this one front is that we're kind of your excusing novel that, like, oh, it happens right after the match and the quote, I just gave using I'm getting a reason why an excuse me, there's a tackle at the end of the game. That's bogus. Right. Right. Tha Kunda Alexander to Kuna the number twenty one for Cameroon in on how now I think that's when when Neville says the thing that I just read that's to the interview right as he's walking off the field literally on the field. So they're getting him moments after that, where he sees one of his critical players. Maybe suffering injury in the end of of what he thinks is a game that that should be over. He's hot. But he carried this with them into the press conference to the point where he made their advancement into the quarter-finals all about the air cooling here. Because I hate this world behavior, like we're in school of the opposition. So here's what he had to say before taking a question from the press, he called Cameroon's again, behavior completely and utterly ashamed. That's what he said of, of his opponents. He said of his players had behaved that way they would quote never play for England again. He went up great. That's great with all the resources you have. Right. Right. So that's the other thing, right? Like, we're we're there's a lot of context you on both sides, both on on the privileges and the opportunities, the English might have, and those same privileges and opportunities that might not be afforded to Cameroonian player. Here's more from Neville. We have a duty to promote women's football. It has been a struggle for twenty to thirty years. We came to the World Cup to be successful, but to also play a part in making women's football globally, more visible to put on a show. Yeah. I mean, that sounds super era Ghent you know, know, you know, he's just like you know, when he took it out when England finally arrived to save women's football to put on a show with, like their classy behavior that pal. I have at all is when he first joined the team, he was surprised by the travel accommodations and they didn't fly business class. He was surprised of all the logistics that were not the level at the men get. So he asked for everything and got then some, but maybe it's because what he's asked for he's gotten any scene changes because he came into the program that he feels like he has this ability to change what it is. In the end it comes down to when fica expanded the tournament in allow for more teams to get in. But what it did allow for these teams to get in are usually, unfortunately, with exceptionally European teams, the rest of them are the ones that are underfunded. And this is a problem as whole as you're going to get games like this, because there aren't enough. There aren't enough countries that support their teams. The level the England doesn't I'm sorry if your support at the same while the, the way that US in Germany and England are supported it is your responsibility to handle it the right way. And to move the game forward. Right. Because what today do now, your team thinks that, oh, that team was dirty, you know, our coaches would do one in to touch, you need to play faster. If you do not play faster, is your fault because you're getting kicked instead of blaming somebody else. So the now you, you are an agent in the game instead of being the victim in a game. The manager for Cameroon align Junfa called it a miscarriage of Justice after the game, one of his players rice fhu, Joe said we didn't want to play anymore. We just wanted the game to be over after the second goal there was kind of, at strange moment of protests. Let's focus in on England real quick because they are moving on. I think Cameroon were more dangerous against England than they were against New Zealand against Netherlands against Canada. How would be real work? Moving forward. If I was England, mum about how threatened they were today that back line. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That back that's centre-back pairing a bright and holding a slow and their cavalier on the ball. They like to build on the back. They're very Norway next site. But the problem with Norway is there left side is weak and it's been weeks since Nigeria played on it's been week when France played them and the Mindy is the left back and it has been the problem coming into the tournament. You don't see some opportunity in the middle of that English defense for Norway, I do. But the question is what Norway did so well against Australia was, how quick they transitioned and they transitioned so fast and expert long balls, especially Savak that ball was unbelievable to her sloven to give him that goal the first goal can they do that, because I think this backline can get caught. It's going to be a fascinating match up. It's the first quarter-final that is set in stone, and I'm very, very much looking forward to Norway. And England, of course, we still have one more match to talk about on tomorrow, schedule. That's Canada and Sweden. But coming up next an interview with pharaoh book catch, he's going to give us the entire scouting report on Spain. Spain gets ready to face the US in the round of sixteen that interview next support for left or permitted in the following message come from Allah, you wouldn't settle for a two star restaurant or Jim with old equipment. 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They won one against South Africa. They drew against China. They lost against Germany. Although I might argue that that was actually the best performance of the tournament I wondered just what your general thoughts have been on Spain so far. Yeah. I think the the game against the South Africa was actually a really disappointed, Matt's sagoes the game. Like they didn't play like we expected. But they grew during the next two games. And they play much much whether it against Germany, and the also against China. But we have a scene that the is really hard for Spain to, to score. And that is a big problem there. That is something that we've been talking about quite a bit as they play beautiful soccer, but they, lack someone who can be dangerous in the final third or finish or create opportunities. What do they need to do? And who would be the one you would look to that could actually be that one to score those goals. Yeah. Sort order style. We love to have the ball. We, we love to have the profession, but we also tried to, to be a little more. Benthic. Oh, I think. We are missing that in this domain and also in the last you Cup. But I hope that the song of the, the new play your young ones like fear fear on I carry they, they play you that they can run behind that. They can use this face. I maybe a little more dangerous. So I hope to see them tomorrow in the lineup or doing the game. And the try to, to find like maybe song contracts or after some possessions, just right to be more better. Because with them on the that's the, the option that we have to really beat the US marrow I've watched the Spanish team. And I gotta admit like I'm frustrated by like the chances that they're creating sometimes they're so perfect so golden so, so clear. And there's there's just a real real lack of finishing. Are you surprised by that? I'm a little surprised because we have really talented players, but it's true that we, we don't have like a really big strike, or we actually we never have that maybe we have other players that they change positions a little more. But right now, we just have a general, so that is normally playing like, like number nine but he's really a number thing. And then we have my Coty that can do the job. There should be a good game against it. The jed money and help it deemed to play a little better. But it's true. It's a, it's a, it's a problem, of course because in soccer you can we, you don't score, but also is like something that we are talking a lot. And that is also in the minds of the players, so probably they go to stunned tomorrow. Thinking about, oh we have to score. We have a big problem with that. So let's see they come with a good performance or actually the pressure of the trying to score. His it makes them to, to a little harvest. It's interesting. When you watch some of these squads you see teams that use multiple lineup's different players. And they keep a couple of key players in to try to keep that consistent a little bit of chemistry. But I was surprised because we haven't seen in. Correct. Pronunciation as messegue the number six the one who should? Yeah, but she hasn't played every minute is, is, is a coach Bill. Is he the type of person that does a lot of rotation or can we expect to see that tomorrow? Or do you think he's going to go with some key players that he has been playing if I have to guess I think that the neile field that will be the number will be to receive like stadium is probably more defenses, but for this and then he'd just a big. The procedure for every game. So I think he would've stayed with her. And then it's about the building two players gonna play on or midfielder probably will be Bikila Salva, that is not playing sciences. The first game on maybe also like one of the youngest one that we have, like big basin. With is pretty thorough that will be a little surprised but I think if the the millions of that he was just on if that is the players we hope that they have a game coming into the tournament barrow the when I had seen Spain I really thought Mexico was a critical player. I believe you guys played together early in your career. Right. At at Espanyol. Are you surprised that she has not been a bigger part of this this team in this World Cup? Yeah. I'm actually I've lease for Bryce, because he had like from tastic season with a mother, as they wanted the lead opinion about Cologne. So see on I really keep late. You're going to see some players that gift like that stability too to the national team because ceases -periences like a really strong in defensive way, so that the more flea them to other players to, to attack more. But then if paying like to play with does with one seeks, and that is in this moment is beginning to receive that this, another Mason player, maybe less defensive that the, the CMS again, on see better with the ball. So probably that is why is playing and in the last three games he he was one of the best team. So no doubt about it. So looking ahead, they're playing the United States as Spain. How do you try to come out as the Victor? How do you beat them? I think they'll that we have is the bowl like we the ball we have to have the ball. But we know that the US is comfortable in that situation like it bony. We'd be a lot of thing on on voting the game that the thing we've got the ball. But the in the moment that they lose that for physio on defense to attack when USA get the bowl that is really dangerous for us. So we have to be smart. We have to be ready to do some tactical on then. Yeah. Like tried to be a little more effective in the in the left or if we have like two tons of these, we have to go. You know, this US team, you know, the US players very well from a Spanish perspective where you the most worried about. And maybe it's a lot of players. But are there one or two that really you think are poised to maybe hurt the Spanish team? Yeah. Unfortunately that a lot of layers that the concert, but they like for, for what they see. US tried to play to open the gate to defeat will play with with my uncle beano on the on heath on the sides on the dot is actually a week, MC squared off in saying he goes said, we know that they are put bugs they, they are supporting in this World Cup and then to be like ninety minutes defending penal or the solving, he's gonna be like a really tough this, but the it we wanted to, to being the finals if we want to be like the biggest O'Brien did work up. We have to be perfect in the defensive way. So this is a team as we talked about that struggles to score goals. And this is a team right in the last World Cup. You were a part of one would say, and we've often said, because I know you're listening to our podcast, like, everyday Vero. I know you're not busy at all with the end, wwl team is that they're missing you. They're missing someone who can actually finish the goal. How are you feeling when you watch Spain, because the reason why you're not on their arguably is because, you know, incorrect where I'm wrong? Right. The reason why you're on that is there because you thought that's team needed. More preparation and resources heading into a World Cup as the captain you helped file a protest with your federation. And after that, there have been more recess resources, there is a new coach but you're not on the team. Yeah. Probably I'm just saying the consequence. I mean, that is the reason I have to say eastbound is wasteful, because no one told me the recent. But if that is the reason I think it, I think it was worth it women's who building Spain is much better than Nasional deem. Cuff, better preparation, better resorts, and everything is just much that the would be better. So for sure it was worth it. But of course, if you're straight, and you say a little painful to, to what these workup to what Spain and, and just feel that sort of football. Like if you think about just the soccer silent my fit can be, I'm my level I should be there, but it's a coach and I kept feted and my diamond the national thing. So a now I just comfortable of these just to give them a little more on the back story there, the team gave an open letter to the spa. Finnish federation, after the two thousand fifteen World Cup asking for the manager of the timing us, you'll get at us resignation for him to be replaced, he'd been there twenty seven years in charge, and he was replaced by, or heavily there, a when you the moment in which it seems like you distance, you get distance from the national team as the two thousand seventeen European championships. I was reading in Spanish paper, an article that came out at the time you didn't get an explanation or any reasons at that point, have you gotten any sense. Well, who knows? Mill up any moment. It was a little weird because I the if he do h in whatever did, we the after fourteen years, I think it could be another way to, to finish. My time with the national team, but I just can't control my, my actions and my words. And then it was no the way that they choose that, it, it probably these and then that's my career and keep going in the club way. But of course, and I'm not to play with enough of if you hadn't made those comments. Do you think you'd still be on the national team if you hadn't been a part of that letter after the two thousand fifteen World Cup? Yeah. Probably yes. But probably staying will be in the same situation that the for years ago. So actually, if, if I think about myself, probably would be better. No step up on just speak. But if I think about my sport and about the future of. Thousands of years, it was thought that it was. And I think we call that collateral damage is that you were when we see the lies a women's do you see women who take a stand, and then are punished for it? We see it a lot. We talk a lot of times about federations not supporting women. And then we see opportunities when women do stand up for the things that they feel they are owed and deserve. And there's retribution. Yeah you see it a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Unfotunately. It's how it is. But I really believe that don't happen. Less and less. And then I think he women's soccer is getting much better on the women's do in general in this society is getting better. So of course, there are collateral damage like you say, but it's gonna be bettered and they the women's that we are super in some of the consequences, we will be happy. I'm really happy to see paying another workup and to see how the despondently developing how the level of or soccer is much, much better. So, yeah. I'm just these part of my job, other women's these the other job before me, and I just have to do it. Speaking of the growing game in Spain news came out that another big club is finally having. A women's team Real Madrid. They bought the rights to a first division team from Deportivo Tacon Vero has has floated Tino Perez hit you up yet. No yet I have my own not. So if he called me, I, I, I will have. But. Yeah. Joke Sabar like I just love that the Real Madrid. Finally, survive on just have the woman team. And the obviously, probably these see some these next season, it's gonna be like a, a growing, like it's no. But if some tastic for the Spanish silly for international women's soccer, and I think everyone should be happy about it real quick. Very just take on a tangent as we start to wrap this up I today Brazil. Right. Some of our former teammates Soviet. When I played together with for me, guy and Christiani for stars. What was it like for you to watch for mega get subbed out in that game when she was doing so? Well, yeah, it's tough. It's tough because I think the I I'm in Bahia history for me just gets up. He's yes. I'm believable, like I played with her. You know, and will you like ten years ago? It was fun topic. But they played ten years later, I play with setting g pies, and she was actually the same player like, yeah, it's just fantastic and see her like in a normal workup and then making history blazing level. It just made me feel happy. And of course, have that she got up and also that the famous out also because of martyrs is being lying, and it just a tough to, to see the Phillies out. But yep. I'm, I'm guessing that the everyone in France. He's happy now. Vero. I feel like looking at your resume, especially your club resume. You have we we'd be remiss if we didn't talk some club football with. You've won trophies in Spain Germany, Sweden, you wanna Champions League with Frankfurt in two thousand fifteen the last time the on one that's how long it's been since Leone last didn't win the Champions League. You're playing with Utah royals in the NWF sell now now that we're starting to think about Women's Club football and a more global level I feel like in this World Cup where we're hearing. We're all these players are playing their club ball. What's the biggest difference in what you've experienced from an it could be on the field or off the field? Or what did you more important differences between club football in Europe and club football. That is an wwl. I think that the heating US very still a lack of soccer, cool, too. I think in, in Europe everyone follow. No rules and no every club in every country, and we follow champions Lee, and every nationally and hitting US in that way is still growing, like not. I think that the MLS is growing fast and the only getting really stable right now. So, yeah. But don't be hard to compete against a Europe in Europe laps because they are really big, and they are really investing in women's soccer now. And I think that's the biggest difference to be part of a of a club B club in Europe and hearing US. I'm, I'm happy, where I am because you the Royal six part of the real holiday, but there are all the things that they, they, they don't have that lack. And I think that if a woman want to keep growing. Here in US is no just about the national team. It's about the, the, the nationally and the they have to think about the, the star to, to make like the main lab and the woman club. Because that will be a big step, right? Right. And that's one way to keep talent like yourself in NWS Vero left after her season with the thorns with Alec fourteen. I remember being like, oh, the such a good player, leaving the lead you hate to see that. Well, Lear like the something I always talk about, and maybe you agree or don't agree. But NWS L is very much a counter attack transition league. It is not a lot of tactics. Are, you know, when you have an opponent, you're not tactically trying to figure out how to break them down? A lot of times in ends up just being who can run longer right? And who can hit you on a counter, but your team is different, right? You play for Harvey. She's definitely developed and recruited a very technical and tactical side with players like yourself. That's one thing I think we're. Also, if we want soccer to grow in this country, we have to play better soccer. Yeah. Definitely. And that was one of the reasons why I when I seen this might see some with a problem dorms I come back to you because I wanted to win titles. But because I felt that the level of, of the game on the level of soccer it was betting. Yeah. In the take away on the technical way was better than Europe. Though. Now, I I'm Bob because I missing decide I wanted to come back to try to this, this title, and like you say, I'm really happy here because louder cover a dusty coats and the CC improving woman, so competing US that way, like more tactical more technical. I mean, definitely I think the American focus to go in that way. Because we have seen in these workup UPN nothing was being say you out of the them. Really like putting that gob that it was before, like, really, really is more different right now. So if the Nasional teams in US, one could keep being success, they also have to moving back because way and the thing away because the physical way, everyone can get better and say around the world, they are getting better that way. So then it will be about the understanding of the game. So, yeah, we have to get better here US to various talking about so far in the knockout rounds. All the European teams have gone through very few seen, you know, over the course of your career, and one of the things that we've noticed in covering this World Cup is that there's a lot more quality players ending up in China and I have to admit it's easier to follow the European leagues even the women's leaks that we don't have a ton of access to over here. I really know next to nothing about the Chinese women's football league. You've been over there, you've played a what is it like? And how does it compare? To europe. How does it compare to NWEA cell in wire all these players ending up there right now? Well, I want to know too it was for them when I wanted to know how it was a fucker there and, and life. Millions will actually good because they have a really professionally, and the, the contracts and all the conditions are really professional. So I'm I'm I for me. It's normal that a lot of players want to go there. But it's true that the, the Lebanese know that high, I think that was a little disappointed in the in the physical way, especially we can see it in in this woke up with China if nothing like ninety nine percent of the players are playing in the in the and they are good players. But if pill, they are knowing that higher level, he thought that, that they need foreign slayers because I'm on good foreign players to, to put the level a little higher, and they. Don't mind about to offer. Good contracts. So follow the, the good players, who we are seeing traveling to China is because of that. But we have I think the future right now in Europe. I think the big labs are really supporting women's. Who do we are seeing it? Like with Barcelona. Now grandmother. It's Manchester Lieber, all the, the big clubs are having the, the governments team, and it will be really competitive hard compete against them hearing, US, or in China or in any other place. So just we want to be cognizant of your time. So just tomorrow. Where are you going to be watching the game Spain verse US, and who are you going to be watching it with great? Great. Actually tomorrow it's a free day for us. But a lot of us we gonna go to order stadium to our local and just be what goes in game there. So I probably will be in or a disorder just watching the game and super in because all the people around me would be America. So. Very, you got a prediction for us what he thinks going to happen tomorrow. Like my mind say that the gonna be a two zero for US. I'm like her guns one wine and go to the penalties. We can do. All right. Whether it's your heart or your head Vero, thanks so much for the time. I'm great insight. I appreciate your candor talking about your career, and I don't think we're going to get any better Intel on the Spanish team Kate than what we just got. Thank you for. Thank you for answering my tax relief who is crazy ex player that I play that's an old lady that keeps texting me. So thanks. Real, thanks that it was a blessing. Thank you. Appreciate it very much. Hopefully, you know Spain can get you that that penalties. At least. That would be at least will be excited. Awesome, awesome. Well, thanks. We appreciate it. Thanks bless your smart. They get by by all right? There goes variable cat. Wow. I knew you had a good Rolodex K, but well done. Well, semi do not doubt me. I'm just using who I'm going to share with you. That's, that's our boy. I mean just just a cash, I could've talked to her for two hours. You look every line, her resume is something that I want to know more about, you know what I mean. She's just she really does have this resume that says she's done at all. She's she's been everywhere in the coolest part about is when she joined the team, our team was horrible Niane told you like we were everyone was injured that was good. And if you weren't injured red star and, or you're thirty four years old coming back from your third child, and you're one of the better players on the team. That's a problem. But then Vero comes on as like a mid season pickup, and all of a sudden this player in tight spaces could turn out. On a dime, and hold the ball and move it into diff- through different lines with ease, and I was like, where did this girl, come from, and then, like Spain, I'm like, Spain like and just how fast the game has grown in Spain in that they're playing in the championship tomorrow or in the knockout run tomorrow. It's pretty incredible USA Spain in the knockout round on Monday as our Canada and Sweden. We will discuss that match next. We're back with more women's World Cup coverage here on ESPN f c k Margraaff Sebastian sell us are one more match to look forward to on Monday. It is Sweden against Canada in the round of sixteen the winner of that game will get Germany in the quarter-finals. We'll break down, but real quick, who is paying Tobin heath. Carli Lloyd, Mallory Pugh, another US. Soccer stars, a lot of money to do the new goal celebration called who has lost sports. Why pretty simple because Hulu has live sports? You can watch the biggest games and sporting events on sixty plus top channels no cable required. Plus, you can stream the entire Hulu library. Start your free. Of who today live TV plan required. Restrictions apply. Learn more at Hulu dot com. Kate for me in the round of sixteen. They're like two kinds of match. One is the matchup that has a clear favourite and a clear underdog. The other one is this Sweden against Canada. I just I got no clue. I don't really know if I can, if I have the brains to figure out the difference between this team to figure out who's going to win tomorrow. I they're perfectly even almost I, I don't know what do you think is gonna happen? I can't reminds me of Norway to three cycles ago like the Norway's of old like the hit it long and hit pick up the second ball. Look for Christine Sinclair in the box, who's just appear finish or even though her better days, pastor in terms of speed and fitness her ability to find the back of the net has not when it's when she can put herself in the right position. So the question is Sweden to me. I, I know it Canada is candidate will be tough to break down. But we saw some vulnerabilities and their back four. So once you get past that midfield, which usually likes to prevent service into the forwards. There are some vulnerabilities now. The question is, how good is Sweden's frontline. Sexiness. Look, better role full needs to start and play in role foes on she's a left-winger has been is an incredible player. Lots of speed can cut it in if. If they wanna play on the right and be an inverted winger, or they can get our end line depends on where they think the weaknesses are for Canada. She's going to be key. And you have Yaacob sin, as well as speed an us Lonnie underneath the biggest thing, though is going to be the goalkeeper Lindell Lindell, the goalkeeper looks like she struggled on pieces in struggled under decision making in the group stage, especially since the United States Lindahl was one of the best keepers traditionally through a couple of cycles but she's a little bit older. The key thing is she's been injured. And she was injured all year starting keeper at Chelsea those injuries during the season. She got put it second, and then she can never get away back. She is lacking game minutes in that is expecting her decision making, I was concerned judging her playing in the United States. So really that is the big challenge is how good as Lindell who good. I don't know how can it's going to beat them. So who do you think or who are you more confident in Lindahl Orla bay? Oh, because if you're going to say Lindahl issue, I'm put come right back, and you're saying, look, Labbe has not, you know. Day is actually equally as dodgy offensive but I think l'abbaye is more athletic than Lindahl. So when it comes to those at Lubbock saves the shop stopper, I think she is going to save those, but when it comes to decision making. I think we know is gonna stay more within her like she's going to be safer it just matters. What type of shots, she's going to face. So I think Sweden is a little bit faster than them on the wings upfront. But I think overall the collective speed of Canada is faster than Sweden. So is just going to matter how good the centre-back pairing Fisher, and some brand is the contain Sinclair, as well as Jessie. Fleming. The youngster hereto might play with Sma for Canada. But I just wasn't that impressing. It's another one's which front forefront five is more dangerous for US, Lonnie, black Stenius Yaacob sin role, faux or Becky Fleming, probably either prince or and Sinclair I think because I I I'm looking at that. And I have no idea I think Sweden is more dangerous. I think Canada is more clinical clan. It doesn't create as many chances, but just because Christine Sinclair is on the roster. 'cause Christine Sinclair has not been clinical in this tournament. Like who's clinical for candidate you're going to say that. I say what I'm trying to say is they have had less chances in their converting. They'd been more efficient. Got it. Okay. So okay so clinical inefficient. I guess we I'm looking at those synonyms and you're looking at them as and you are not, you know, the thing for me with Sweden, it's so hard to really like valued as I never know of Sweden's actually playing or if they're just a like result generating team. Here's what I mean by that. They made it to the final of the last Olympics never playing well, like basically just manufacturing you say the play well, sorry, never like always just manufacturing results like they had game plans. And they executed them extremely well, that's playing well fine. But what I'm saying is like you can't look at Sweden's first three men where you can look at Candice first three matches and say I see weaknesses. I see strengths and those will manifest themselves in the knockout round when I see Sweden. I just see a team that's looking to survive each. Game. So I don't think you can evaluate Sweden on what they did in the first three games, that's that they're literally there they go out and do and do a job. And they don't do it. They enough one centimeter over the line. I think they have a team that's full of European players that have played sixty five games this year. And they're tired, they're small country, small population. These are their players they need to manage him. They did enough to get out of the group stage a second. They wanted to be second. They once they saw thirteen. Oh, they were like whatever. Well we're gonna play. We're going to be in our two opponents in Chile in Thailand, and whatever happens with the US happens. But remember they played seven different starters against the US only game that we've seen them against a good opponent. We didn't see their true eleven. Yeah. And I thought that was, I think that was them saying, we'll take second Sweden in a nutshell. You never know what they're going to do. They're literally just playing for the day. I can tell you, they're going to win this time. I can tell you and we're gonna see their best lineup Ohka. We will see their best lineup tomorrow and we'll finally know what that best lineup is our guess my point that I'm. Trying to make is like, I feel like I've seen a lot more out of Canada, but I'm not holding that against Sweden, because I just don't think Sweden ever really shows their cards. They literally will bluff you into a final like that's who they are. They're so good at, at not really. Minded try. Well, I, I don't want say that way. It's just like a different but their game plans, we just don't understand that because we're so used to like having to dominate in order to win. Maybe every now and again, they play the game based on strengths and weaknesses. And they set up tactically for that. They're not looking for performance. They're looking for results. Yeah, that's it. And, and, and I would say to an extreme more so than anybody else. And also they're better at it than anybody else. Right. They're better at the ugly wind than any other team. I can remember in, like women's football history, the fair like, at, like, grinding out, that, that ugly result that everyone screams about, and call some cowards over. But you know they go on in the tournament. All right. That's all the time we've got for this show. Thanks again to variable cat. Thanks again, to Kate, Mark graphs Rolodex for making that interview possible. Thanks to our producer, Mike Rodriguez for all of our team here on Sebastian Salazar. Thanks so much for listening. And we will talk to you tomorrow after the United States and Spain face off.

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Casey Stoney: The Offside Rule Exclusives

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Casey Stoney: The Offside Rule Exclusives

"Imagine the orange glow of a sunset over the ocean. Or the look on your daughter's face when she met her new baby, brother. Now, imagine what these moments would be like if you couldn't see them our site is a gift won that series. I disease could compromise. But yearly exams from an eye. Doctor can detect them before it's too late. Find an eye doctor today at think about your eyes dot com. Sponsored by the American up to metric association. In this episode of the off-side world exclusives. We speak to one of the most recognizable names in women's football hugely respected as a defendant playing at the top of the game. For over fifteen years. Casey stoney has earned well over a hundred caps for England as well. As winning numerous domestic cups league titles. A European silver and world bronze medal after retiring from a career playing for the likes of Chelsea arsenal and Liverpool. The former England captain became Phil Neville's number two coaching the lion essays before taking charge of brand new WFL side, Manchester United women. Exclusives with Kate. Bush say and Lindsey hookah for this episode of the side rule. Exclusives. We've come all the way up to just outside Manchester to a place called Lee. And we're at least sports village about to speak to a brand new manager in the women's game at a brand new club as well. Casey, stoney, welcome. Thank you for having me. We thought we'd just sit down and have a radio lovely chat with each day. Because we've known you for years. We've obviously followed your career for year is myself and Lindsay here at the moment. And we sat in a box in what looks like a really lovely stadium, and that echoes how seriously this club takes women's football, doesn't it? Yeah. Absolutely. In a thing anew and applied for this job or whatever part for it for didn't think meant we're going to take Susan Chris they took so long to come to the party. I think when when they come in everybody knew they were going to do it properly. Let you say you sitting here fantastic stadium amazing facilities, and I have to say the most integrated of ever felt was Paul club. Because you've been a few clubs, and we we will look back on your current and it'll bit more detail, but just looking at your rap sheet, I space Chelsea arsenal. You're at Charlton. When women's football was a very big deal at Charlton. So you've been around a fair few clubs, and you know, what you're talking about. When you talk about integration. The seal of work to do some clubs today. But all we going in the right direction with that. And what more needs to happen? What's the next stage? Now, if we're just going to take a quick look at women's football and say, okay, this is how we're integrated at the moment. What's the ideal fee? I think for me, I look at the the the whole of the sport. I went to a conference recently news a Stocker in stock. The of all sponsorship in sport. Only one percent goes to female sport now without money and without investment. You can't grow the game. And if that's one percent, female sport, that's probably a lot less into female football. So that's the end of that for me, that's a huge area that needs to change because with investment you can. Grow the game. We've got a full time professional league now for the first time ever, which is a huge statement. You know, if we can get to leagues a near that. We'll start growing the game even more of seen huge changes in Manchester. United in terms of the support we get that level of support the attention to detail on the market in the strategies the commercial that happened really quickly. Then that the I guess fans of the men's team have cottoned on to what you're doing. And how well you're doing it and of jumped on board quickly they have has been Kuala transferred. The that we have we don't just have female football supporters here. They don't just women's team supports. They support the men's game and the women's game, which is great. And that's one thing we try to not do is ever play same time. Because I've always she counting out fifty percent of at least at least you audience. So yeah, I think people have called Don have to say what the club had already put in place before. I even took the job was incredible. And support staff they've got involved in. It hasn't taken an awful lot in terms of finances. But what they have ties resort. It really really well in terms of. Stuff that they've put in place in the job rose added onto people's woes. They've already got and because they've been doing it so many years so while at the men's game, they treat it exactly the same on the women's game. Then they deliver in the same way. And that's important. You've got two daughters. You gotta Liam, willow. So for them coming through now. Although there's a long way to go the prospects. If they wanted to follow in, mommy, shoes are that they're going to have hopefully a professional career, but an easier ride essentially because it's been quite a form for years. I think let's go back right to the beginning. I would love to know what sort of challenging were first all probably a pain in the back. So I'm mom would say, I think if you were younger growing up when I was trying to play football you had to be very resilient yet to be a strong topic carrots. You had to be carried to the didn't care what people say said because you were told every single day that goes shouldn't play football couldn't play football. There was hardly any opportunities to to play the barriers were huge. And I suppose I was to stop into list. And I actually thought I was good enough to play. You know, the boys never stopped being goal. There was picked me on their teams or loved. It was a game loved and. I'm a massive believer that you don't let anyone tell tell you can't do something. And you know, and I was really lucky that support my mom my dad, parental support. Huge. You know, because if your parents tell you, can you believe you can if you parents thought questioning now or your mom says goes play football. You dot says then you going to start to believe that too. And so I was I was really really fortunate in that. And I grew up in a Cody site where we played jumps down for goals, and we played all hours, and parents would call us in when it got dark and we'd fight to stay out. So, you know, one of the things I said when I got this job, and I met with the twenty one players was the big thing for me is trying to change the face of women's football. So that might little girls growing up with the same opportunities. They might not ever get to say money. I'm a realist, you know. We don't tore in as many fans, but all I want them to have is the same opportunities. And I believe football can speak to society and society is changing laughing football can add today in terms of equality. So I got about two primary school and is about nine years old. And I. That girl that I played with the boys for a beds a love playing football. And there was a little group of girls as well in my year group that used to stand on the steps near where the football was being played. And they they sang songs from Greece. And that was what they did. And they were that was the girl thing to do. And that was the boys were doing and I played with the boys for a little bit. And then I countered, and I thought I didn't wanna be called names. And who want to be told that I'm playing with the boys and not with anyone else? I wouldn't inside Greece songs for wall. Quite badly. So the mentality even as a child, I know that you're saying, you know, you had to learn to just get on with it. But that wasn't an easy thing to do. I mean, you openly have spoken about being bullied said to actually have that shape who you become as well as quite key. I think to your journey. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think is those social stereotypes that were supposed to conform to and I've said it before you're you're telling the girls straightaway school that is net bull, it's hockey or its Atlantic. So it's rounders you don't put them in football. So, you know, pe- school school has a big influence if I go and try and buy Tellier football kit or perish impacts after go and buy her small, boys. It's a stray away she's told she shouldn't be playing the sport. Because it's not children's is is boy sizes. You know, they're all the things I think subconsciously children pick up on parents pick up on an is a change. We're in two thousand nineteen you should be able to play wherever you want to have a go. Within. And it's like, you know, on the flip side, it's netball. Why shouldn't boys play netball, you know? And I I think everybody should have the opportunity to play everything was point when you were younger that you thought actually I'm not going to do this anymore because annot you'll stubborn. I can totally imagine. How you almost drove you on to carry on playing anyway, but your human and you would have been young. I is there anything that kind of sticks out to us at this point that nearly made which would have changed your whole life. Really mom will tell you the amount times. I went home in tears, and it was awful cook called a tomboy man, boy constantly, and I used to try and dress differently to try and prove hours per heels on short skirts, and I was like this isn't really me, you know, complex. Oakland Hills is very difficult, isn't it? But it was kind of like trying to go against the stereotype of being appointment going. Okay. Can still be a go. But can still be good at football that it kind of. I was a bit of a Tom boy, I love playing and climbing trees and being active. But does that make me a tomboy? Does it? Make me an active child. Yeah. You know? And that. And that it was that that kind of stereotype, and it was it was awful at times it was horrendous. And when you're ten or eleven or twelve and you don't know who you are, and you trying to fit in and trying to find your identity, and you get bullied for the month thing, you're actually good. It's really confusing and yet it really upset me at times. And I suppose it was probably my mom really go in don't let them win. Don't let them win. Don't let them win. And if adequate they would've won, isn't it strange? How children even young age must be quite perceptive to talent. Because you always or a lot of people that I've spoken to being belated been bullet to the things that they've been good at and that make them special and that made them different. And I'm sure that's part of your mothering. Now is that embrace those things. Those are the things that are going to set you apart in life. Those are the things that are going to make you successful. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm massive on differences. You know, I live in a same sex couple with three children. So we have to celebrate difference. Both talent, you know, celebrate. Talent and one of the ugliest traits. You can have in life is jealousy and envy. And I think that's where all stems from people. Get jealous Mba's, and therefore bother them work harder to get where you got to they'll try and beat you down. And that's ever been my mentality work hard, work, hard work harder. And you know, what you get yours. Did you get the most stick from the adults? The parents of other kids all the other kids both of senior as a player in of seen as a coach, you know, for me when I played in a boys team. That's when I got the most dick from the parents, the girl what kind of things just Santa shouldn't be playing, and it was a disgrace. And then that that tell people to take me out, and and a hard and all this source. Yeah. Yeah. So it was one of those. I was talented. So you know, it was almost like I'm going against the norm. I'm going against social service ups. I'm going to get what they believe in. We'll actually change your beliefs. That was you know, that's the only way and the only way for me to get people to change their police was keep showing Arkadelphia, and I wasn't gonna be them. Are available to download for free by audio food and deicing. We did keep doing it. A new traveled around effect few clubs of London based ones was that change of necessity because of where the women's game was at the moment. Or was that change of Ambien? I always moved up principle if I didn't feel like things right at the club. If I didn't think there were certain things that should be done that were being done. You know, I always moved. I felt some of it was Ambien, so Chelsea to awesome. I move is definitely our ambition because Chelsea went in the same league when I left arsenal. The first time it was because I was trained in harder than ever more opportunities were few and far between I felt like it was because I was the youngest player rather than you know, the player that probably should have had the least opportunities then oversee when I went to when they disbanded the team two weeks after the Cup final and we were preparing for a World Cup. So I had to move teams. And then from then on it was on principle decisions. Based on the fact that I didn't think things would be done Ryan. And I felt like I had to make a stand. It was to leave this. This repeat won't happen to Charleston because because the men's team relegated the women's team went. And you were told with how much notice we just played in a Cup final two weeks before front of a record crowd. And then the manager Texas two weeks later just to say I've been in a meat in. We no longer have a team, and we were four weeks away from go into China in two thousand seven and compete in woke up, and unfortunately, that's not a one off story, and how long would it take you to come to those decisions? And this is me trying to get into you a little bit. And do you make decisions quite quickly? And then you you go with them, you made your mind up no regrets or you some one that really is measured and takes that approach. I'm quite measured to try and think about what consequences is going to have make the decision. What impact is going to have on the team? Never just walk out know, I'm not a quitter don't leave ago. Okay. I is it going to be better because I've made my point and therefore by might meet leaving it. It makes it better for the rest of the team. Then I I kind of do that. Because I believe in what I believe in and actually most clubs off left of Aviva got better or changed in some way. I'm where Jesus had the biggest impact. Probably Chelsea when I left the second time. But then I think I'm high as did an incredible job. She overhauled the club the fund in the budget. Now, you know, the support they get is listen we were wearing kits that were handed down. We are no tracksuits. John Terry out to buy them for us. You know, we didn't have any money always plant manager. So you look at that, then and you look in our think fairplay Chelsea because they've actually listened to Amman have invested and they've they've done a fantastic job now, and it's pleasing to see the players hair at money knighted women that it's important for them to have a life outside football. We know you'll life outside football is really important. You've got three kids lovely partner who Lindsey I know really well, and who is a total gem and really supported the VA because you're going on this huge big journey, this this this totally different thing to having a playing career is so different. We'll talk about that a little bit later on. Did you have to work around football? Because obviously during. In your time. It wasn't a professional game. And we know podiatrists we know painters decorators, we know teachers all the women playing in the game. And this little new. And this isn't that long ago had to have another job. So what did you do? Any term fresheners thirty. So I always had jobs, and I was a left school at seventeen we're very few qualifications. And I'm not proud of that is probably one of my biggest regrets was actually appropriate Adum better. But what even when I was seventeen was realize footballs for me, so went straight into mccutchen budgies throughout my level to a state to instant coach in the community. So I coach into the clubs. I was working at McDonalds in the drive through I've worked in a betting shop Donald come on of two years or so college good lures ambassador. I am gone. Come full circle. He told them about they have. Yeah. And everything. So yeah, you'll pictures on every wall in McDonalds. Look what happened if you start your career at McDonald's and Tim Burton shops because it meant the I could get up later and we used to train from eight to ten at night. So sometimes when you go home getting out for world was quite difficult. I was gym manager. So I work. Five in the morning to free clock enough new shifts in training afterwards. So I I always worked, and I was lucky I two years David Beckham academy as well. So, you know, I've always coached for every single club of words when I was at Chelsea goes ahead of academy there as well. So a in coaches it so a seventeen so when people said to me, you know, you going into management now, I was like well been doing it Nathan early twenty s anyway, I is a natural progression. And of course, if you don't know that women's game that well, it might seem. Well, she's an ex player. She's next England captain. So of course, she's going to try manage a club Nana. It's not about going to try and manage a club is it. Well, no. And I didn't think it helps when in the men's game because there's always these comparisons. But you had the Frank Lampard Stephen Girard pulse goals and quite recently. And I think people think oh they've just had a really good professional career. Now, they're just being given this opportunities. I think it is worth pointing out that you've done your time. I believe in you have two stripes. You know, I've worked for nothing of of work voluntary of coached under four under-fives undersea. I've done. Every age you could possibly imagine yet employs aborted. The boys under eighteen kademi when I was at Beckham academy so of crossover done an awful lot. Coach in even when I was at liver port go down to developments, even that was in my own time. No pain. No, nothing. Just for experience of mccutchen. Budgets for my license. And you know of of always tried to put myself in a position where I can learn I am learning every single day. I'm gonna make mistakes. Of course, I am. I'm a big reflector. And I don't think you grow unless you make mistakes, and I am a perfectionist. So that probably goes against me a little bit. But it always makes me want to be better. Let's talk about that tweet cake because we were coming up on the train. On. View on the pier phase special achievement award totally deserved. And there was a picture of you holding this special PFA plate saying Britain. And that was tweeted from the from the payer fair count. And this chat replied that plate will look good. When you put it in the kitchen where you belong and you thought hang on a minute. Yeah. The only way I always think to respond to these people with a bit of humor. So I said, yes, they will look fabulous in my kitchen next to my oven gloves on board. My four house five League Cup. Steely toes European silver medal world bronze medal and one hundred England caps, it will fit very nicely. Thank you. That was pretty. Of course, it's going to be these these responses, I mean, even now watching punditry female commentators in the men's game all of the things that have been going on in the last calendar year, for instance, does again G skin when when you start saying, the vitriol that comes on, I think it's unnecessary watch. What to lower punditry so say, Alex, Scott, Rachel Brown, and Alex goes through many well for self and is because the challenge in the norms, you know, and that's a good thing. And also, it says a lot about society in west society still is and I'm like, these people that are saying these things and Ryan these things you've got mother's. You've got sisters. You've got daughters. You should be treating them equally respect and we've dignity and and given them a platform to rise. You know, these people don't take anyone's places that just doing the job. And if they do it. Well, then they keep their job. I'm not I'm by no means a person that says a woman should get a job. Preserve one. For me. It's always. He's the best person for the job. And if they're capable of doing their job than they are. And as a woman in the men's game, you have to be twice as good anyway to even earned the respect you came out publicly as gay and that's another caveat to this as well. It's women trying to progress in what men perceive is a men's game. But it's also being openly gay as well and being happy to announce that and throwing that into the mix to do we need to keep talking about it about how many gay people are within the game or are not coming out within the game and also the progression of women's football. And the fact that we need to keep pushing it forward or just do we need to get on. And do it. In other words, is there too much chat. Sometimes around these subjects needing to God's sake. Just just let me get on with it beyond searches. I'm the poem Rago. Let's just talk about performance. Let's talk about how the girls again on. Let's talk about the league. Let's talk about how we can push from his game forward because sporran is boring. Yeah, I'm gay. So it's just a part of me is. Isn't me as part of me, and I got free beautiful children live in a family where I'm fully supported and. Yeah, I came out, and that was probably something because journalists asked me to and I thought at the time I was England captain I had the ability to make a positive impact by doing it. But now, I'm just like, I'm a football manager. And I'm a mom. I remember that coming out at the time in twenty four teen, and it really blew up. It felt like an I've, I know women's football. You are not the first gay footballer name women's football. But it felt like that was what it was post to go. It was a it was big news. But to everyone who knew me, the relies this is this story. And I was like, well, no, it's no. But so everyone that didn't know me obviously was and it was kind of a way of trying to use a how does a platform really to try and send a few clear messages in society. But now I'm let let's move on. And and and when we talk about the male game all the time it needs to not be a story for people to be able to feel comfortable to do it. But of course, with the first male that is a professional and down the league's it's happened. But in terms of the Premier League, Princeton, soared the championship. Yeah. Even the ninety two league clubs, the I will will still make headlines, but part of your story and one it must feel nice to have that freedom to talk about is that you found love doing what you love, you know, you make when you were Lincoln, and so many people at work we know that we know it's going on in the men's game. But just people just don't want to talk about it. I think people may work every single day, and it was a chance, and I always think things happen for a reason I left Chelsea I went to Lincoln I met megs and. You know that that for me the rest is history. And I'm like if you're doing your job when you meet someone if you're in a reception job or you're in an office or you're doing anything else you work in his supermarket known bus an eyelid. So it shouldn't really be any different in terms of team sports. We have film styles. We have comedians. We have so many people in the world who are living as a gay person is just not a big deal. But you get someone like a Livia jury last year saying it's impossible to be openly homosexual in football. He saying it's impossible. That's that is a a top-flight permanently player declaring publicly it's impossible to come out at home a section in football. That's where the damage is. Right because how on earth are you as a kid coming through the game how enough Haizhu role model, and that's what he's saying? And he's not the only player to say as well. So. What needs to happen to break, the tabu, doot, should we just get on with it? And try and forget it order. Something needs to happen to the needs to be some sort of change. A thing is is is a very personal thing coming out. So no one can tell anyone to come out. No, one can do it for you. It's it needs to be your decision and in the men's game. Unfortunately, no, one has felt brave enough or the need to some might be happy with the way they are. And they don't affect their life. They're quite happy going about it is they are. They don't want the media attention. But you know, who knows if it's impossible because no one's done it. Our site is a gift won that series. I disease could compromise. But yearly exams from an eye. Doctor can detect them before it's too late. Find an eye doctor today at think about your eyes dot com. Sponsored by the American up to metric association, if you're like me, then you have two types of stuff in your home. The stuff you use and the stuff you used to use. You know, those shoes that just aren't you anymore? The old phone hiding in a drawer somewhere. So why not get rid of it and make some cash while you're at it by listing it on Macari the selling of recurring makes it super easy to sell almost anything in all items ship. So there are no awkward meet ups selling ship it and get paid with Macari. Check Macari out on the app stores or on Macari dot com. That's M E R C A R I Macari the selling up. Subscribe to our channel the offside TV exclusive video. Let's talk about the crossover with the men's game because you've worked with some high profile guests from men's games. Phil Neville, who's. Now the highest profile in the women's game by being England lioness's manager you worked under him eve. Also, I believe have chats with Gareth Southgate even for dinner with him. And and talking about how to get that team. Camaraderie, g really volley. Those conversations first of all earth thing any conversations with people in the game valuable, you know, whether it's cower south by over. It's an academy coaches been working in the game for twenty years because you can pick up something for everyone, and you can learn and my I'm looked after by the same management as Gareth. So we was Griffey dinner at Christmas and always pick his brains and at the time he was kind of pick your mind as well because it was years ago, and what we would do in England the differences were and I was in love what we do might not work in the men's game. But the certain things you might be able to trip in you know, as for me outta ways. Trion open up conversations and learn because what can we take from the men's game that can use? The women's and what can they take from the women's game? They can use in the men's, and you know, I think it was he opened up Phil's is when he first got the job, and boy could say what we can say what you needed to do. And listen, it was great in a great free four months working with him and get into known as a person, you know, because he's a really good guy. Did you find yourself having to introduce him a lot to too much of the game? Because he openly said, I don't know it inside out, but I will make sure I do. And now, he I it's well reported that he's sending WhatsApp groups between coaches sort of five six in the morning. He's constantly thinking of ideas. So he's he's tried himself into this role with gusto, but someone like you I imagine was was that link that bridge between what he didn't know what he does. I think the FA oversee for of quite clever really in terms of bringing him in first few months to be alongside him because I've been in the team for eighteen years on new that sets up the back of my hand. I new international football. I knew all the teams or the opposition. And a new ever to look out for new the do's and don'ts. Women's football. And you know, even terminology things you might say in the men's game that you just don't say in the women's game. You know, so a lot of the time with him, and I tried to help and support him, and what you needed to be aware of his is his own, man. And he's frozen himself in it massively and credit to him anew that because we're just for lefty he set up thirty watts out group with every single player on I'm gonna notifications all over the place is so Yanni wash. Even the other day said he'd watched are less the game online. So he's he's watching games from America. When it goes to plan over there. He's he's constantly watching it because he's learning about every single player and team. And you know, I think credit to is is really taking it seriously evil with him for a short time really before Manchester United came calling. Why the decision to move so quickly? And was there a realization at international level that you were a great help to him in terms of knowledge of the game in terms of the resource that e could provide, but perhaps. Wasn't going to be the best move for your career completely. I listen, I really really opened an ice conversations. We feel for my first job. It wasn't quenching my thirst because it wasn't on the grass every day. I wasn't working with players every day, and that void inbetween national camps, which really struggling with, you know, your plan in a lot of Islam. Not really, I am planning. But I'm not I'm not doing anything that was kind of getting frustrated. So when the opportunity came to apply for this job oversee he knew he he knew the club better than I did. And he knew it'd be a good fit for me and encouraged me to go for it brave decision because this is something that hasn't existed before. So when you give them a blank canvas the must be a part of that role that you find exciting because you'll get into put completely your footprint on is. But also equally daunting. I mean, you a few weeks, and you got to assemble a whole team and backroom staff. These things that you were already thinking about even in the app. Education down. You're already brains wearing of where you're going to go with this. Or were you coming in thinking? We'll see when I put my application together for the Joe went for the interviews. The first thing I there's a Tom application and has already food thinking cat who we're going to get what we're gonna do. And there was of me go in. Oh my God. This is huge. You know, you sit down you've been told you've got the job in your eye. Oh, I've got four weeks to assemble Twenty-one players Oma, barium stuff and everything in place. So six months into that journey now, I suppose BART's it's your first job in management. It's this clubs, you know. Okay. They had a women's team many, many moons ago. But this is the first time that they're making a full professional, honest, go the ice bays. This is going to be or would be a very public failure. If it didn't work for the team for the club. And also for you as well. But that's all right. How do you handle that? How do you? How do you get your head around that because it's a big if it goes wrong right is failures never and my head. And I have to be honest. Never never once would I let this fail. Our too hard of fantastic support around me in the club, my bedroom suffering credible. So it was never going file and we've put an awful work into those Twenty-one bringing them close. Together. During a lot stuff off the pitch to make sure that we grow them bonds and were out there. And and we do an awful or work on the training pitch. You know, we're clear on the way we want to play they work hard. My philosophies. The train is going you get on it. And you come with us and the way we wanna go or you get off fairplay. And when he knocker results like seven Nell against another championship side. And when you play a w one side so a top league side like Brighton and the golfing class there really was was obvious in that FA Cup tie managed by your road England manager as well. We know that that trains going, so that's awesome. Let's let let's talk about the England career. There was a point when you nearly retired. And I never knew this until I started researching you a little bit more today. Just take us back to that take us back to the England career that nearly wasn't. Yeah. I think it was two thousand and five really played a few games quite a few games leading into European championships. And then was worth. Really hard and then European championships came and went not imply single minute. You know, it's not new substitute and a member sitting down after just probably soak in be an angry everybody angry at the world. And she probably took me a while to realize that what I was doing wasn't enough. And there was a time when a about quitting four about walking away from us or doing all of this and I'm not getting anywhere. And I changed every finish change Mark approach my mentality. And and mentally from that, they almost as been Noma award Matalon is all out work everybody, you know, in our work hard of them, and I'll be more focused, and I'll be more determined than I'll be more diligent happen. I think of character over is managing are really. But it paid paid off for me because you know, where didn't play a minute in the home tournament two thousand five went to two thousand seven was one of only four players play every minute in the World Cup. One international player ear- off the back of it. And then my career went from there really you went to the Olympics. And this is where women's football. I suppose comes into the conversation for a lot of football fans. Because you know, we know the gains been going on for decades, we know the work that has gone into it and the times it failed and have to come back again and all the different guises that women's football has been under an different leagues. And I suppose when we're talking about public perception and kind of general football, FRANZ knowledge, they look at the Olympics in two thousand twelve and of course, they look at the women's World Cup in two thousand fifteen as well. What did it feel like for you? And I suppose we can we can look back on it. Now, you know, it's every student writing to us saying I'm writing a paper about how much women's football's changed over the years and they start with the Olympics. And then they go into the World Cup. But it's an important conversation to have because you throughout the lots of it. So was the turning point twenty twelve how did it turn an where's it gone has it gone bigger much quicker than you thought? I think twenty two was a catalyst because the further you had to ballot for tickets. So you got what you gone to seventy two thousand people came and went, oh, they can play and it was on the telly. So, but I have to credit older women and all the people that have been in the game. All the is before that fought for everything, you know, when hope go that job we had nothing she fought for central contract. She's changed the structure of the game. She got the WASO up and running without any of that. We didn't have a full-time league. You know, people didn't work. So I think for me it was a catalyst two thousand fifteen for me was a byproduct of everybody being time all of our players were full time. Then it's no coincidence. We go to the following World Cup. And we do well because every place fulltime, and that's because of what how powerful in place in order. You know, I think the Cosmo walkers, you know, to Karen Burg's, the polling copes all of those that worked jobs did the same thing dingus single penny represented their country, they did Rosetta. So that we can be where we are now after hope Powell, and we know that she put into the women's game. But she was quite if I can say this single-minded in her approach yet say that she's she was direct single-minded, and it was hoped way. And you even went with hopes way you went off, and you know, I learned quickly to do that. And and became a captain in two thousand eleven and office in two thousand twelve so, you know for someone. You know, probably wasn't having me for for free or four years to earn. Her respect was probably one of the biggest things are tiny mockery. And she started to realize how hard I was working and appreciate it. And then oversee realize the had leadership qualities came me that captain see, and you know, how to make sure that the messages from her to the team and vice versa, which was which was difficult. Sometimes changes keep being implemented or with the right motive, which is to get women's football to that next level. But are all of them great. I mean, I'd love to get your thoughts on the shift from the summer league to the winter league because there was a lot of raise eyebrows. At the time is it working a think, the attendance figures will say it's working because mantis, you know, come into the league, and therefore attendant because of increased, but I think if you take Manchester United out intended figures, we'll be down. So actually, it's not a a false figure full four people in offices to say, actually, it's working. When really if you take the out of it it. Isn't think the stuff I've read is the attendance is are down the problem. You always have the summer league was the brakes that you had to have two major tournaments and there was inconsistencies around it. So it's very difficult to to have a summer league. When you've got a break for six weeks every time for me, I like the summer league because I hate the cold my family like the summer league because you can take the kids out, you know, and you don't have to hide them away in the cold. And so I think sometimes you tendencies down because of the weather we're having games postponed now because of the weather, and it comes with its challenges that were there before boss buys, you don't know again until you try it. So it's whether we tore it for few years and go back in. I don't know what the answer is also with the challenge with the summer league is because we will ground share the men's teams need to rest their pitches to recede relay them that becomes a difficult part as well in terms of getting grounds to play on. So everything has its challenges. But it's about. For me invested in your marketing in your commercial strategies, especially your marked in to let people know where your plan when you plan and get people in the grounds and one of the main remaining frustrations must be fixtures. Because I've worked in the game. I I worked for solid seasons for about seven of them. And now I come in and do a little bit. But I never know. When even if I'm following one team. I never know when they're playing a, you know used to be Sunday, two o'clock, we'd know the might be women's football happening. But you can't have that now and then you'll have three fixtures in a week. And then you'll have three weeks break. It feels like there isn't a consistency for a supporter women's football supporter to be able to say that's when I can go watch the women play. And does that still aggravate as a head coach definitely does now because we'll have. I have seven games in twenty days and then three week breaks. So you can't get any momentum. And that's very very difficult for the head coach and the players. But then also the supporters are kinda get the coming away from the two o'clock Sunday rule because for me need more flexibility. Because otherwise if you kick it off at two o'clock on a Sunday and the Medicare can offer two o'clock the Sunday, you don't wanna kick off at the same time. So you need the flexibility to be able to change it. But it's how you get your message out. That's the most important how am I going to get my message out tumor fan base to know where we're plan women pan and what time soda the fans can come. And you need to make an incentive for ministry reasonably priced in east to be a good day out and people want to come in and the differences between the women's game in the men's game. They can engage with the players owners took about Mark Sampson and him leaving the setup he was very different obviously to hope Powell and Lindsey I experienced that joined the World Cup in two thousand fifteen just a different shift in mentality. He bought and a modern approach much more modern approach to the game. And he undoubtedly was a success whilst he was in charge of the women's team. But the headlines around him leaving and the racism aimed toward some of the female players did that do the women's game home was that blown out of proportion or was it a necessary conversation to have always a necessary conversation to have isn't it? If there's an issue in play feels like that's happened. The the positive thing that's come out of that. Now is there is a process in place if any players go on issue, and they feel the need to whistle blower. They wanna talk they know now where they can go. And I think now is a huge positive that came out of that situation. I mean at the height of his success before all the happened. He was being talked about as potentially coming in. I think it was a league one team in the men's pyramid. And of course, this these things that happen. I I to do this. I to do that you've done a lot of them. People are starting to bring your name to the front now for that. Because the saying right who would be the first female to potentially coach a men's team, and it would be such a huge barrier. I think and it's one of those things I think could change the landscape for the game. Would she be up for as it would be a huge barrier to change would Aleve? Mantis? United would go into men's football. Wave got tenure of over a year with three children to support. Now. You know stability they changed things so quickly. I'm a fantastic love with an amazing group of players with journey to go on for me. I'd love to be here for many many more years. And then maybe if I'm financially secure than take the risk. That's terrible, isn't it? But it's basically a risk. It's a risk enough that the woman put himself forward for job whether or not, you know, we know they're gonna get steak because that's the way is at the moment. And is changing, of course is, but we know they're gonna get taken a race because because that's not a secure livelihood being the coach of a men's team. I want to just two very very quickly about the differences between coaching men and women because it's important because all these people saying it should be a question the game, you should treat them all the same. But it isn't the same right? No, snow men and women of difference. You have the tree indifferently football. When a coach the players and coaching players. But it's the conversations you have is the language. Use is the emotional intelligence that you need with a female player because the men might be feeling things. But they won't talk about it. Whereas women need to talk about it. So you need to be open to. That and you know. Consular? You're you're you're everything when you head coach you all but also the club. We've got support networks where we can make sure that players have got that support. We've got a wellbeing coach we've gone a psychologist clubs are we can make sure the players get that support is important and Gilles need to feel a bond they need to fill that togetherness Anita fill out their parv something the difference is utilized to do. They'll do the one asking the questions the Gail will do it. But she wanna to know why she's doing it. And how it's gonna make her better. And sometimes we we say is coaches women, a quite literal. So if you say we want you to stay white they'll stay while every time when it's actually owns coming field. So you have to paint a lot more pictures with it. And also they haven't had the footbridge occasion growing up in the playground PA of academies professionally every day. So sometimes you have to make sure that the language. Use is simple that you explain everything because they haven't had the education that the boys have had well Cup here. Exciting. France, what sort of rally you're going to be playing. You're going to be doing anything quite I'm working. Yes. Some I'm going to be doing some punditry. I'm going to be over there. I would be going anyway because I want to go and watch games and also wanna go and scout and see potential players that you know, might be of interest to us. And also, I'm a huge in fat. It's not going to change. You know, I'm so patriotic I want my country to do. Well, and some of them are my friends still in the and I want them to do an announcement all won't feel to do. What was my friend now on on that team to go to NBA successful? And you know, I'm gonna get to go watch lows, different games and different styles. And you know, I never watch it as a fan because can't I'm always picking upon seeing what people are doing strategically. But some eligible to won't is success for England semifinal. I think it has to be the previous World Cup was a semi final. So I think we need to be aiming to get their the players capable. Yeah. But you need luck into when you need players you need players, inform and sometimes the draw can help you to. Well. Let's. Strap out there by saying that we hope that success continues in your career as well in this new venture with lots of exciting things ahead, and there's a place on the top floor of women's football for mantis United women. Good luck. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Exclusives is produced by offside productions and edited by Lucy lately. Our site is a gift won that series. I disease could compromise. But yearly exams from an eye. Doctor can detect them before it's too late. Find an eye doctor today, a think about your eyes dot com. Sponsored by the American up to metric association.

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Week 1 breakdown! Chicharito is BACK! Vela is out (early)! Sounders never left!

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Week 1 breakdown! Chicharito is BACK! Vela is out (early)! Sounders never left!

"The time his ally find out what's going on in the mls get lost. Maybe this podcast is in good as well. Everybody up here. Every single day goes into the amish into the lab laboratories trying to come up some great stuff and you guys From new york new york. You are listening to extra time driven by continental tire from kansas city. I imagine review with my partners in and soccer. David goss mattdoyle. It's our what our favorite shows of the year. Soccer is here major. League soccer is back. No more hypotheticals. No more guesses. No more sandy. I think this might happen. But you can't hold me to it. No there were games. Thirteen games as we can. We watched him. You enjoy them. We're gonna break them all down right here on this show Guys it's it's wonderful. It's wonderful to start a weekend. Have a schedule c. Lineups come out. Set your fantasy team and win. Might i add in my case. Sixty five points was just enough. I snuck over the line. How did you enjoy your weekend. Before we get all the nitty gritty before we get the teach aretha and the galaxy and their inspirational win and post game interviews with the sounders of course winning that western conference final rematch awesome f losing but still having hope and some misery clubs. Tell me about your weekend. Let me live vicariously through you. Because i'm juggling kids in case you didn't nominate and consumed major league soccer from every angle physically possible at the same time in my home in a abode. It was amazing. Friday night was fine. Energetic sat on the back porch got some pizzas. Invited people over distanced socially outside and then saturday as well just watching all the games sunday finishing it up it was it was phenomenal. I just i am major league soccer right now. Nothing brings up that. I wouldn't act to an mls reference to me about the celtics if you want to be like oh yeah. That's kinda similar. How come across the plate at left back for colorado rapids but still worked out baba. Who's good your mantra. Save montreal at the top of the eastern conference up is down. Down is up molasses back. It's all very normal dwell. What was the highlight for you when you watch. Games of course did your. Mos animals calm. Everybody reads on mondays. What was the big highlight. What stuck with u. the quality of the goals and it wasn't just the banger. Was you know special buildup from chicago. The first one. I think that The sounders the second rally as one it it looked. It didn't look like week one week. One in the past has tended to be a pretty choppy into some games like that. But like i don't know. I just felt like the quality of play for for week. One this year is higher than what we tended to see In the recent past. I was really pretty jack about that to be fair week. One this year is more like week. Four in previous years not just get. They didn't have the week. We didn't have the month of games for teams to get going if you want to know what the group was like for us entire weekend producing unders reminder of the day is this never count out the heart of a champion all caps. Don't call it a comeback. The sounders were never got. Of course we're going to hit that. One heart big away hung out. What campion right here. That's what it says champions of the western conference fair. They did it again. Added to minnesota united banner on. You're saying that banner mo- seattle thing ever literally getting a belt created for something that doesn't exist. It was just walking around. We got to western conference belts. It's as it one week. That's all that matters it the all new. Mos soccer dot com falling the action there this week and all the highlights news everything you need to know from mls week ones. Zach had the breakdown on saturday night. I think he's doing that all year. So check that out. Of course you had your cheerios. Call him doyle. The call up by the way on tuesday has often been sweat lost l. Afc to nothing and there was an interesting moment. Now which will get into in which carlos vela the captain of my fantasy team pulled up little made a signal bob. Bradley did not interpret that. Sorry quickly there. Oh jumped in. Yeah bad did you jumped the gun. Okay this is going to be on me okay. I am out for the whole show. Sit on the bench now. Dirty looks okay. We'll talk about carlos valez. Come on this show. Okay now gimme gimme cough. You want him. He can show up. Maybe shutout by the way to our weekly fantasy winner. Inter miami so 'fred are that's his team naming two hundred and one points is the only team to get over one hundred in our league. Beat up the next closest team by three points He capping dolly surprise. Surprise on that one is name is inter miami sofer door and as miami logo as so congratulations to him. If you wanna get new orleans we'll tweet that link out once again we're going to start this show the way we will start every monday. Show with wheaties big narrative of the weekend. You know i'm a narrative guy rented. Mls tells me that. I'm a little too focused on those. But my god how can you not enjoy that. La galaxy win in south florida on sunday on abc. I'm sure we all watched it five. Goals a good deal good quality their big stars where be in the stands of course. David beckham is entire family and entourage. Tom brady is there. And then she thereto and eat wayne two goals chief thereto with the most inspirational postgame interview. I've ever heard my life. We will play that for you in just a little bit because it was that good. What did you think of this game. What did you think of cheetos performance. This felt like to me like a guy who had a year and a half of weight on his shoulders and desperately needed a moment needed a moment to be a little bit Old self needed a moment to be a little bit vulnerable on a public sense. We've made fun of him a little bit or at least i have a lot about the instagram workouts. And whether those we're going to actually turn into production and we don't know what the rest of the season is gonna look like. It could be more twenty twenty for him. This might not be some like big indication of a golden boot. Run to come. But i was personally just really happy for the guy you can see what it meant to me and not just his goals like sasha question scores that winner a beautiful curler in off the post and he is on cloud nine after the game he said. Look at me. Talk about ethan zubac topic. Sasha talk about greg vanney changes like it just. It felt like this moment that he had desperately needed for a year and a half and to see him get it. I mean it gave me like it gave me a lot of feels. You could see on his face and hear it in his voice in that post game interview which was remarkable and i thought john champion taylor. Twelve hundred a good job of get like making that moment live a little bit longer and in going a little bit long because teacher thereto i. I think you're right. He clearly needed that as for the game itself for an hour. And we'll say it was all inter miami but it was primarily inter miami. They played better soccer than the galaxy. Did and i think You know what changes it was going to a four two and bringing ethan's zubac on and in that situation zubac was able to kinda occupy the other defenders the central defenders. So that teacher retail didn't have to do that. She didn't have to find the defenders and make their lives. He just had to find space. And if you look at his two goals. I mean the first one is just classic. Teacher goal varies fainting. That run to the back post and then he cuts across the box. Gets you know inside. The defender amazing touch and finish at an angle in the second one is like a wand ogle just charge crash the boards and be the first to the rebound. And there's nobody around you because the big center forward is occupying everybody so it was. It was a great performance from him. i thought even when he even when he in the galaxy were struggling in that four to three one He was more up for it than he looked at most points last year And then the change of the four four to change the game and phil neville really in phil neville never really adjusted and if you don't adjust to a guy who has scored three hundred goals in his life which is what she treat though is You're probably gonna end up on the wrong side of the scoreboard. And that's exactly what happened and fairness the him john mccarthy catch that ball and it should be you know. I think that first one was actually tough right because of the the tablets are the second one the second one so i think that was actually really tough because as goalkeeper there. You're kinda stranded. Because you're you're playing for the header but you're trying to make yourself big in order to prevent the ball from going straight in off crop like we've seen that a million times. I thought mccarthy actually did well to get a hand on it and it's just like it's on lucky that what he was on the back maybe tracking cheech rideau and being as a week to the dangerous he was that's It's interesting which feature retail. Because then that i sixty minutes. I agree with you more up for it. But there was a few moments where they tried to hit and transition. He's always going to be the guy he is he. He's not going to be a threat that often outside of the eighteen and finally one suba comes in now. He's in his wheelhouse and he's want to you know he's gonna be elite in. Mls if you get him there he's not going to change who he is and he's not going to be. I think of rooney but you can talk about keen or other guys who came to this league. Maybe did things. They hadn't done at other times in their career just because of their overall ability in iq and whatever it is Chichi ito the thing he does. Well is leaving the box and score goals and once. They got him in that area. He showed that he's ready to do it this year. And so it's a positive going forward. It's exactly what the galaxy needed two goals. Same as twenty twenty if you didn't hear the interview. Mls soccer dot com. We'll give you a snippet right here. I mean it was emotional stuff. And it's wonderful sportsman. Such open emotion in celebrating on the field of play. I'm i'm i'm yeah i am. I mean i suffered the loss of my grandfather. I love him to to to to keep me watching scoring goals. And yeah i mean. I'm very touching because liquor. Toil a lousy so was difficult. I miss him so much and goes out from them from from keith. From my whole family my friends everyone. Because yeah i mean i maintain patients keepdriving on thankfully things are coming around and hopefully like i tell i just want to be a part of a of an unbelievable seon. I mean this was the narrative. I've been talking about this a lot. And whether he can get back into el tree or not doesn't really matter but for this is career. it's his life in in the first answer on that interview. He said that you know all the pressure that he fell all the people. He felt responsibility to whether his family or himself. Or the people within the galaxy organization that gave him this responsibility others an incredible moment on live. Tv for him to show that sort of vulnerability. and i don't think you see that very often from athletes. I don't think you see that. Very often to be perfectly honest from just people in general whether that be in their personal lives or in a public setting like this was cheech reto on. Abc on national tv in the us and abroad to me. This is one of the most. This is one of the most special moments off the field that i've actually seen milan a lot of ways based on everything that we as a society in a world and as as people have gone through in the last year and of course you know cheetos on the kobe thing just like we all have and it's not over but we've seen the headlines we talked about the headlines we talked about all the gossip and everything else that surrounded his life all the different things that have pulled them in different directions over the last year and then to fail. He failed last year to fail in such a high profile. Way in this big opportunity and to come back. Yeah i mean it's special it's awesome. We should all try to g though for the next year or the rest of our lives. Be your best self. You get fully vaccinated two weeks pass. Then be your best self like this is to me. This is the best possible way for the mls season to start for one of the stars. One of the guys that everything is built around as far as hey watch this league. Care about this league widen the fan base to have it work out for him in miami against david. Beckham's team against gonzalo higuain for the galaxy trying to rebuild and trying to become what they used to be again with greg vanney at the helm like this was the exact result the exact scenario they needed and it still was. My mind is while they were like. Hey the big center forward came in and changed the game. Ethan zubac like this is a team performance. And it's awesome. Now the inter miami side you know other than the. Tom cleats from rudolfo. Pizarro and his performance a little bit to be desired. It's all going was okay can i. He added since he was say about p. sorrow. He was super active at questioned. If he's dangerous enough to be worth what they paid for him coming into this league and in this game phil neville found a way to get him a ton of space yep and he's not a goal score and he's not really a final chance creator and the big one that stood out to me was in the first half on the break when he had fisher. And that's it with thirty yards to goal and he kind of held up for a little while and then hope to get a penalty that he didn't and fortunately he did get the. Pk later in the game. But it wasn't a dangerous moment that he was going into. That's going to be if that's how miami is gonna play this year. That's going to be something we're gonna talk about the whole year because it's not what he does at his best and he is not luca celery on and so if the whole game. Let's spread the game as wide as we can. And let's get be sorrow into killer spaces. I think miami's going to struggle. Is that on him. That break and i'm just talking about that. Specific moment like nobody's road scored two goals and he was central. Both of them one was a penalty. Kick that wasn't a dangerous moment way. That was completely dangerous moment. That was completely a day. That was that was robbie robinson beating guy on the wing driving directly towards the box. Playing ball to like to pizarro's feet bizarro is trying to leave for the the weak side runner. Who was lewis morgan. At that point that was that was a dangerous. Play all right well. There is no reason fallon. It wasn't like he was all about to finish i. that's fair. it was still like a good package play. And i think for the first sixty sixty five minutes miami put together a lot of good passages of play. They just weren't quite sharp in in the box. And maybe that will come with. Time is gonzalo. Wayne approaches Fuller fitness and you know that was when he was dragging yacht behind him. He wasn't even trying to he wasn't even trying to be. A part of that. Attacking was just jogging behind the play. Really good though. I i don't know i think there was a lot to be. I would think there was a lot to be positive about from this for miami. Like they came out and they played with more commitment in this game. They played any point last year. I thought they had some pretty good ideas in the final third. They just like phil neville kind of blew it. I'm not making any sobs. Not realizing his entire midfield was dragging and that you know the ps ro and matt tweedy in particular were were kinda dead to the world by about the sixtieth sixty fifth minute And the you know the the subs for the galaxy and the formation shift for the galaxy changed the game in phil neville for whatever reason could not keep up with that. You know. Moss's back when ldp yellowcard like forty two seconds into the game. I was so sure he was getting read in this one. I was so certain he was getting a red and he almost ended with one. He got in someone's face in the last thirty. It was like yeah he was and he was like. I haven't gotten sent off. Yeah i don't have a lot of time and gone someone's face on some play trying to get the ball restarted quickly. I mean this. This was a game that i gave you a lot of different things. I still think we're gonna look for more gonzalo higuain. No we had to go in the assist. I know also that robbie robinson learned a lesson. I assume you did which is when you score a tap-in from gonzalo you i-in you go. Thank the man instead of running away from him. Like come on come on robbie like you show a little bit respect in that moment but i think the big question from this one is who got it better between david. Gaza mattdoyle guys. People are iguazu. Seen that's what you got compared to that your your beard is not grown out quite as much as you might like and then doyle your gonzalo. How do you feel about that people out there really meaning extra time against the brothers in the midst of this game. I'll take it. He's a handsome man. Hey you're the younger brother. Don't talk too much. I lead this. You might make money. Put yourself the younger brothers. so don't get. Don't get out of your bridget. don't get very exactly when the assad goes on the grill. You know who has the tongues. People people's got the tongues. Kohl's exactly how many out a little bit run added needs a needs another workout exactly need another beer. Oh wow dropped. It on on sounds are back. I think that's probably the second biggest story of the weekend here And i on here. Maybe they never left the difference formation here for brian schmitz or you had new. Who back three which is awesome new. The one opportunity late where he's looking at an entire open only back passes and runs backwards and like they've broken new. This is over. But he had a couple of awesome acrobatic clearances so maybe not but a big a big second half. Let's say for the sounders first. Half i was like man. No so is is the truth and he is. He's an incredible player but in the end it was criminal done. It was the dp's it was rudy as it was will bruin it was. Fredy montero was a sounders team. That just kind of said. Hey we are who we've been don't doubt us don't count us out. And hey minnesota move along move along. It felt like they may be read some of their press clippings and were pretty pissed that people like ourselves claire picking them to take a step backwards this year and maybe not regarding them as one of the elite teams in mls anymore Not to say they're not good. I think we all have the seattle top four or five in the western conference and like oh if things go right they could win a trophy or maybe even to this year But i i. Is he a team. That is thinner than last couple of years. Maybe you know getting a little old and a couple of spots. Though i guess. Part of that is like losing gustaf's benson and row 'mantorras. Maybe that doesn't maybe that's not applicable anymore But i thought especially without nico darrow and playing against a very good minnesota united team and trying out a new formation as like this is going to struggle this is to be tough not just nico without the. I'm are as well. Yeah without which was mine. Yeah just decision there I thought this was this. Had a potential to be a statement win Or at least a statement result from minnesota and i. It was a statement. Lynn before for the seattle sounders They it took them forty. Five minutes second-half. It looked like they'd been planning that three five to forever. And they take cost shawl many problems. For for minnesota with that right side overload. Role don's movement will first of all his touch in this game but spectacular. I put a couple of clips on up on. Twitter is dropping back getting on the ball like taking one out of traffic and then opening the game with these diagonals to his brother who looks like as as as under said sergio deaths of light. That's what we call her. Alex roldan now Rodin was spectacular with touch by. His movement is so smart so dangerous and he's able to just create verticality By finding these little pockets and he put he put minnesota's in the spin cycle and everybody in that attack around rolled on will be abreu. In re di. As alex roldan whoever was playing left wing back it was brad smith and then was killing row for a little bit and fredy montero like they're all smart enough to capitalize on the spaces that that could movement creates end like by the seventieth minute it was clear that minnesota had no chance and they were about to take a beat down. And that's that's what happened and it's kind of conversation. We had about seattle. Maybe we didn't think it would happen. This quickly of you're talking about experience high q. Players with a couple of crown jewels that defenses can ignore and so you talk about a bunch of guys who can read the space. I think we've said it about well. Bruin freddy montero. Yeah maybe they're not leaders right now but ruidiaz in lodeiro enrolled good enough that they can read the openings around them and get opportunities and i think you saw in this game reviews fit ready to go. And if that's the case for seattle they're going to be a threat the whole season because they've got enough pieces defensively and they've got a match-winner and everything else can kind of revolve around that and you can figure it out. Include asensio being the best player in mls history. It just leaves the door open for opportunities like that. Do we want to go on josh fan club right now or do you want to go. Joe paulo touching fan club because good lord to bring that down with his instep in the most calm way possible. And then just like yeah. I'm just gonna absolutely lace this one. I mean it was. It was announced gone from i. It was just incredible and when that happened. i was like Weekend lit yard. Had the paul marie goal from the san jose houston game. I was like oh this baby. We're we're often running but this is extra time so we should probably talk. Josh attend ceo. Who i know andre's was jacked about you have seen him a ton div- a ton in cups. What did we see from. What do we see from the kid in game. He's confident he understands where to pick up the ball. You can hit the big switch. Which again when dole talk about that overload. There was opportunities and with those wing to kind of open the game that he was able to do and then you saw as the second half wore on him closer in that final third and willing to be a part of the attack in a part of the buildup and pretty quick with the ball feet. You're playing with two of the best midfielders. Mls around you. You don't have to do too much. But i think you saw a good balance of. He was an active piece of it. He was going to get the ball off the back. Line being a part of the build up if he needed to but not doing too much and overrunning. Zhao palo space or trying to get in the areas in which christian roll down was good so i think he found that good balance in the first game. You saw brian setzer after the game. Talk about it. They ask them to do a job like they didn't ask him to go in and win the game. Go in and be the peace that we need you to be. And i thought he did that. Which is huge for as we talked about all these homegrown groans. This is how you start getting on the field before you really establish who you are and become essential part of his ball carrying was really good. And i don't think i had seen that from him in the past like once he got on the ball he was able to drive forward and cause real problems and then we had good instincts or has been drilled. Well on how to draw the defense to him and then hit a simple pass to cut those defenders out and put the attackers into good spots. It was really impressive. I still don't know if he's a deamid. I don't know if he's an eight i don't know if he's a centreback you'll have used him. They're a little bit There were times where his his lack of quickness maybe cost him some like. I mean t to be granted to be fair. It was against reynosa where he got screwed into the ground spice. But it it was super. It was a super promising ninety minutes from joshua tennessee. Oh look there are two things. I've deemed brian schweitzer for it. Historically one is his teams never put together a really convincing regular season in two is that he has not taken any of these talented academy kids from the sounders gun them real chances real minutes to get make them real first team. Contributors and part of that is dan. He was clearly on that path. With danny leiva. Before labor got hurt attenzione. I thought was going to fade into you. Know just whatever and komis what you call. It fade into tacoma clearly. That's not the path that he's on right now and you know maybe the same for w while because i thought he looked a not as good but still promising in his cameo at the end. They're top of the supporters shield standings. I'm sure that prisoners refreshing this page all week and just like Oh yes four goal. Difference let's seattle sounders big win for them now. Minnesota that a good first half there was a moment there where you're thinking. Hey man the realtors dot com really going to have to eat one here because you know. Maybe they'd even have minnesota united high enough because bell reynoso is unbelievable. Like i know they lost this game. The kind of got worked over for nothing here but even in those conditions you cannot watch this match and not come away thinking. My god is absolutely incredible and then when one show came on there were moments where he said. Okay if he's a ninety minute player or even a seventy five minute player. They might have something going here now. Yes there's issues on. The line built a center forward in a lab but then took someone's random had in through it on like he is rectangular to say the least he. He was ready to go. What did he shoot twice in his three. His first year touches the the reynosa ball over like the diagonal into the box. It's on his right foot to finish. He doesn't quite get it and yeah then there was another one. I mean he was goal. Go hungry now. He came in there and being like i'm fricking starving. I have a bell on my team. Let's make this happen i don what. What is there to talk about with minnesota. Other than their second half wasn't good enough. Common got spun a couple of times unlucky. Pk i would say we'll traps. Hand is up. But i mean that's just that's just a unlucky break for them. I don't think he's out here trying to paddle that thing down. What do you take away from this. If you're adrian. He's doyle what what is there to take away now. The sounders played better in the second half. And i i still think minnesota's a good team You know maybe take a look at that. Centre-back depth chart and figure out if callum montgomery or Nabet nucci who was the first round pick. This year can can edge in there ahead of common. Who i mean. It was pretty clear in the second half that seattle targeting kim specifically. And that's tough. That's tough on any player. It's it's especially tough when it's a third or fourth string center back. But i don't i still think i still think minnesota's really really good team. They just got smacked in the mouth in week. One monday. that's fair. We'll see what happens with them. It will be interesting. Just throw in a fabulous starts. You don't play dots on the wing. Does dotson start in place of we'll chat in the next game or does start there or do you give well trap another chance because i thought that was a part of the field where it got stretched and a guy ragged at times and you mentioned reynosa looking around kind of being like. Who's in this with me and datsuns not a winger. So they have the pieces. I'm not questioning any of it as well. But it'll be interesting to see how adrian he handles it going forward. I truly before we let this guy. I love watching bird. Reynoso play because he's not like he's not a luxury ten he's a. I might step on your ankle ten. He was flirting at points with with some with a double yellow in this game too and he has. He has like an angry attitude toward him. And maybe that was conditions in the second half and the scoreline getting away but even in the first half like he is. I'm not gonna take any bleep. Sorta player and i love to see that from him. You hope not but the had to be a moment where it felt like he was stuck in a rerun righty season last year ended with a lead a great first half against seattle and then it all kind of collapsed behind him. And that's what happens in this one and again. I don't think it's a bigger issue. So i don't wanna read too much into it. But there had to be a level of it for him of like. What the hell's going on here we'll see if they can get it back. I think they're going to be a really good team this year. But it was not in this game that they showed that seattle. The huge win atop the supporters showed standings. After one week off. See i we got to see a verde go to l. Afc it was weird star very strange star. carlos vela was the guy that everybody's watching him he's talking about. I mean we're going double for supporters. Shield in cop saying he's gonna win. Mvp and take the golden boot and then he gets accidentally subbed off early by bob bradley before we get more into this game. I mean this was the talking point is you have this queued up this. Was you talk about incredible moments. While she was one after the game. This might have been the most honest in game interview that i've ever heard l. Afc coach bob bradley joining us down the headset bob. What can you tell us about the cardinals situation a moment ago. Yeah i might have jumped the gun. That might be my fault. I'm not sure gave us a sign early on that that you know he needs to come off. I thought but So i can't say more than it's my fault. I'm props to bob coate that. How did you experience as moment. Because i'm i'm watching it. And i'm like wait what's going on here. Let me see. Carlos go to the bench. And he's not happy. Let me ask you guys the game. You thought he was asking for a sub right i. Yeah that motion is not. He didn't use to wins. He didn't use down right. he is one hand. Did a circle like saying the trainer over here. I in retrospect that. I guess that is different or differences a distinction. That matters it was it was bizarre. It was. It was not how i expected to go by the way you won't for anyone who didn't watch diggle. Rosie fails a fitness right before the young. So he's not able to start and then as this goes along to us gets hurt at the end of the game. These are three best players on this team but at the moment with bella coming off. You're like wow like elliot sees the shining star paths and twenty three minutes and it's like all right. Let's see what danny mustaf skin. Corey bear got for us. Hey don't do not slander. Danny musab ski big dana southsea guy in these parts. But i m bob's perspective like we've talked about it a ton with carlos vela. This is your crown jewel. This is the basis of your goals. Your season he is the. Mvp is healthy and your team is performing. It probably eighty to eighty five percent. But he's also had a lot of injuries so when he shows even that little bit of vulnerability i get it from bob's perspective you like not on on. I like not in week one. We're not we're not. I've seen this one before. We're not playing that game. You're outta here but that's where my cape this has happened so many times carlos bob. You gotta have established signal. You gotta be on the same page you. I've got a curveball. Maybe have someone who's a bit of a medical professional. Have some sort of device that can communicate remotely maybe using radio frequencies and have them tell you. That's the part. I don't even first of all it worked out for them. They won felony so good but just the way it happened. Was the issue again. I don't think anyone's questioning protecting vela early in the season. It's just you'd think you'd ask before you make the bummer. You're watching this game on fox. You got us enough. I gave you got the stars there. You're like this is going to be awesome. And then carlos villas gone after twenty minutes and just come to like wait. What just happened. you know. It's it's like discuss in your third base coaches like flashing sign jon. I guess i'm stealing home. I'm going for like here. We go it worked out in the end to nothing. Would you see from austin dwell. What was this for a debut from a tactical perspective from just sort of a. What are they going to be. Maybe short-term and long-term perspective. Did you learn anything. Yeah i mean. I learned that all our assumptions was right. It was we're right we were talking all all preseason about how this is probably going to try to play like a gregg berhalter. Us national team look in terms of how they want to build out the way. They're gonna use alex ring How they're going to try to use their fullbacks The role of the central midfielders. Who are going to be kind of like free weights except free isn't the right word because they're not interpreting. You're not finding space. They're playing this like very strict positional. Play and i thought for forty five minutes. It was awesome like they really caused. L. afc some troubles now. Granted elliott caused them a lot of troubles as well. But that's what you expect against any. Mls team especially a good one But they like they are going to try to keep the ball and they are going to try to Bill chances via possession and use the ball and their own spacing to sort of disorganized and disorient you it. It was really really pretty Part of the reason it worked. Because alex ring is awesome. He's just really really good. Pocchettino and pereira. I thought were not as good but still really promising in that central midfield and i thought matt beasley had kind of a throwback game on both sides of the ball so those guys create chemistry and are able to to sort of Be a foundation that the rest of the thing revolves around. The scene has a chance to beat very good and like maybe in the playoff picture because the idea is that they were very and they executed on a lot of them And if you can do that against l. afc in week one. Then you're going to be able to do that against a lot of teams throughout the year. And i would just say i liked the way. They've built the scene. We've talked about it on the show. They don't have pieces. That are just going to go win it by themselves. And so that's that's what they've built themselves to do. I would say from tino in this first game. I didn't think it was a perfect performance. All around but he has special moments in him that will allow them to break down when he gets it off the fullback kind of like angled into his feet to run straight out. The defensive midfielder centreback. He's quick with his first dodge. And he's clean and he can beat guys in see match-winning quality from dominquez. Resin this one which occas- your first game in. Mls in awhile fine. You'd like to see that going forward. But to doyle's point what they showed is what they need to be and if they're starting at close in week one it means you don't have to catch up with a lot of expansion teams do later in the season. They don't need to while we're on the road. The first few games will will backload the schedule and get points in august. They're probably going to be sitting in a decent place throughout most of the year which allows them to have some flexibility as they start to bring new pieces in or whatever it is. I think they got six more games on the road before they go to the q. Two so they are going to find themselves tested and these next month and a half two months to get it out. Yeah we know. Historically these early season trips tend to wear teams down in. They're playing worse at the end of them and they are at the start. But like i i i was. I was impressed as impressed by this austin team. What do you think happens a forward not in the long-term dp sense but in the short term. We need to score goals to get points. Since enchant chunk calico was so dangerous. He was so dangerous. His movement was superb. Obviously he didn't finish the chances he he got but like he was finding chances. So i i think danny is gonna get another chance to be as who's was pretty decent as well but like he he naturally wants to come back and linkup rather than find space in the box and you know. Make those ghosting bruns. And and like he's not natural goalscorer. John gallaher looked like a natural goalscorer So i think those guys are going to get a good long look and then if it doesn't work they have the ability to go out in summer and spend a little bit of cash and maybe find someone who is a match-winner. But i wonder how much of its game states of kazeem. Stroud and wound has made a difference off the bench yet of like this hour. Let's throw something different. Wait a minute. You mention jerry strategy shutout charlie fiction. Come on now. He's legend. Everyone knows red. Bull to god jared stroud but their ability to come on and change the pace press a little bit harder and give something different. I wonder if that for josh wolff is enough to say well. We want that ability to do that. Rather than start them so soon on i have to. This girlfriend kept watching the game. And every time. John gallagher miss a chance. She was upset that no one went over and was nice. Salmon was like hey you were really close now. I think they're kinda pissed that you miss and it happened a lot. Yeah hey negga. Had a couple nice on him to. He was really good. I and that. I think the best thing to from this for l. Afc was that performance from sicily egg. Are they needed it to be you know why because they parted ways with kenneth premiere. The kennedy era is over this weekend. Like we excuse me by the way we talked. I had this in my notes. I don't know why didn't go to it Inter miami. The material pellegrini situation was solved to like that. That game was so good info well it was semi resources semi the beginnings of resolution. Have this the first steps. Has something happened. He's not as pellegrini got he got bought out so they are now roster compliant but commissioner. Don garber said an interview during the game or maybe it was during a during what some. Yeah watch so much soccer this weekend and don was interviewed. Multiple times that there are sanctions coming For inter miami. I mean just the fact that they bought him out says that they knew that they were forty. Ps that they had last year when they weren't rosser compliant. So we'll see what those sanctions are audience for. It didn't really work He was he was great and seashell to hand he he he was actually really really good in that seattle run and you'll always have that but since nego showed in this game why he won the number one kit for this team Let's run through some teams that impressed us outside the big story lines from the weekend. Can we start with montreal. georgia maha which his his performance where his mouth is said to the critics after this four two win against toronto. Fc hey put your money where your mouth is. They were not happy about a lot of people putting them dead last in power rankings dead last in their predictions for the eastern conference. Or can we. Can we just shut out our good friend. Ben bear here because it ben in his in his new sub stack and the new podcast. That he has with with daniel robinson robertson. He did insane five teen parlay in which he picked montreal to win this game and he won the parlay parlay hit. Ben was too much of a coward to actually farley but go go follow eighty nine on twitter. His new his new. Mls gambling venture. Yeah but hey if he had. It would have been like plus thirteen hundred if he had though. It's tough tough tough work. If you can get it there ben. But look i mean expected goals. We're not kind to montreal. They piled on the bangers. I mean mason toy was like who gon but look what i learned. Top corner curler. Three minutes in ahead romo. Kyoto main just ran away from everybody and roofed it. I mean that was in a grotto us finishes as tight angle just like it giorgis. Nice little he had a beautiful touch around and then he basically did to and mantra went right. I mean it was. It should've been four three. I think there was a pk onto my guy. Come on miller's just poster i slam you got his victim on yama. Yeah you want to attribute everything to come on the komo of big here. But yeah victor. So it's basically the perfect game for the impact in week one. You beat your rival. Your young striker. Who didn't quite perform when he got there last year but had promise scored a nice goal. Romell kyoto who is become basically your go-to attacking threat got another break when he's at his very best squirted incredible goal. You had george. Who's supposed to be this year's like mason toy but with better results you tried a bunch allocation money for look good enough and score a great goal and call out the media afterwards. That's beautiful victim. On yama your dp dunk header and again. You beat your rival now. Wasn't good for teams in or league. I met keys but there's a huge win. Expected goals one goal one goal and they went out and got four. And that's a little bit of a worry because you. I mean if you score for on one expected goal generated like. You're probably not gonna keep up that pace but i do think that there's a danger in reading too much into single game expected goals. I thought kind of defined montreal miss one was. They understood that if toronto came out with the same players in the same formation playing the same style that they did against club leone. That toronto was going to be dead. They just didn't have the legs to press three times in ten days. Especially when the first two games were so emotional and the one of them was at you know six thousand feet as well and so i think they were prepared to to to exploit a weakness in in toronto and like if you're playing as a pressing team and your forwards are exhausted to get pressure to the fr- the opposing defense than the pausing defense is going to have the ability to start playing slip passes underneath to guys like wanyama or sam. That intern brings the opposing michael bradley. And ralph prio up a little bit higher. Which of course creates a huge gap between the toronto defense and the toronto midfield and that gap is right where montreal went to work by slipping which or kyoto in there or playing along ball and just winning the second ball because bradley pro are pushed so far up to present to prevent easy outlets and so all all the four four two did in this one was stretched toronto out and give montreal room to either play over the top or into the half spaces in credit to wilford nancy for understanding that this is what he was probably going to see in week one and having seen completely ready to exploit it. The one thing with montreal. That i picked last in the east. And i'm not by the and i'm not changing that yet. I'm not something away from that either. But one thing that i did forget is there're teams in. Mls that don't bring it every week. And there are gaps in mls. If you are cohesive and you care and if montreal can do that they'll be competitive and look for a playoff spot this year. I don't think they have the top end talent to completely compete. Although they have young pieces that could emerge into that. But if they're that team that every single game is d to the wall. I don't know if we say that. I don't know if that's an appropriate time. I couldn't think in the moment. And they know who they are and they're not spending energy and seattle and other things like that. They're going to be competitive fun to watch. They're going to be worth sign up for. And i think we talked about. What could this year be and this was. That game of the young guys looked confident. They're fun group. They believe in themselves and they're kind of like us against the world and i'm a fan. That's what i want to see. And i think they've got a shot to be competitive over the course of this year. Don't it's worth. It's worth noting that montreal picked generally near the bottom. They came out with real fire in their eyes then played a great game. Houston jet picked close to the bottom. They came out with fire that they dominated san jose for the first forty five minutes. They played really really hard. I would pedal to the metal rather than your metaphor david Vancouver they came out. They gotta win they. I thought played really hard even though they were missing some places. That's a team. That was generally picked close to the bottom like these seams. Are all you know. Taking a page from adrian heath's book use the power rankings to fuel you for a couple weeks released and use that disrespect you. Put it on the bulletin board. And then you go out and you prove that may be the gap between the haves and the have nots in this league is not as big a as it feels like sometimes slough. We'll get a transition from you by the way into houston into vancouver into the power rankings. Which if you don't know eleven. Am eastern time on tuesdays when the power rankings drop doyle going to live on spaces. I believe this week toilets on your twitter account so mattdoyle seventy six head over there. We will only sixty seventy five minutes. Our directors cut marathon. That be wants to do every week. You can let us know what you like more but we will go through every single team we will reveal the power rankings. React to it. Talk about all the little things that we saw or want to see from these teams and have some guests on. Take some comments from all of you so Twitter spaces every single tuesday of this season. Eleven am eastern. We'll go back and forth on twitter accounts. Unless i don't extra time gets access to spaces or something else. Changes will let you know if it does You could tell for all these teams. How much like the game whistle. Sometimes i'm just sitting there. I wanna see what the coaching staffs do. You know marco santos and his squad where i mean. That was an emotional. They were in charge. They were cut to the field and like big. Hugs people running after each other. Lucas cappellini broken nice piece of equipment after scored his goal. So i guess that's cool cheers to him. But yeah you're right and i was little surprised by it but it's gonna be an uphill battle for all the canadian sides and i think they're kind of in that spot where it's like. Finally right then played a soccer game in five months and it's kind of was all worth it to an extent in you could feel that Especially also with the subs for vancouver. They just tried to get over the line with the one zero win and then build from there. I do think it is important to know again because as you watch these games you like wait. What's going on here. And then i see like andy rose on instagram and his family's in salt lake and this is watching the game. They're not at home. They're not in their sort of. There's a creature comforts for them when it comes to life and their families and their habits and all that i mean. They're in there in florida. This game that montreal one is in inter inter miami stadium. Just swab from orlando to pray. Everything is so weird so you can see how maybe that could be a disadvantage but you could also see how coaches and players could sort of like that and say well. It's almost like you know you're almost like summer camp. In a way you're out you're training camp like just us against the world like we're in a weird position it's on us. Let's go see if we can do it now They got good results. Chicago fire just played twenty twenty out in ninety minutes oliver again to their role in. Doyle's tweeden clips. A beautiful team goes and then by. Golly you know how that's going to end ain't gonna win that one it ain't gonna be for them and like let's stop the game. After that first chicago chicago goal was really nice to that. First chicago goal from this week and folks go on. Mls soccer dot com. Go to the game. The match center for that game and click on videos in find to that robert berrocal goal because the buildup was. Oh it was like people. Were deeming mir slacking me being like the. This is the barcelona the midway like this. It was spectacular easily. My favorite goal of the weekend. Let me ask you this. So i was really entertained by this especially the midfield three with chicago. I love the rotations because they jimenez is always going to be deeper so ianovich is always going to be a little bit higher but they all three kind of fit into the same spaces and so there's a lot of movement in their o-4. They started the nigerian twenty year. Old i think on the wing and barish got the startup. top four thought was good. He's clearly in nine like he wants a defender on his back. He wants the ball. Barrett can do a lot of different things. How do you get them together in the right way. Is there a chance that you go. Four four two or you bring barrett's underneath. Yeah i don't. I need more data. I wasn't as impressed. I o for is you're guy everyone knows or guy come. Do you think it's telling and perhaps a little bit worrying that agnosio. Alyssa who they spend a lot of money on Was ineffective last year. Not in the starting lineup. This year like that is. That is a pretty big worry for me. If i'm a fire fan. Because he he needs to be good he needs to. They need a real winger on that side. Who could be a bit of a playmaker but also gold dangerous and hit recant. Just be berek as the lone scoring threat anymore and he came on and played as a tent so they didn't even play them on the wing which is as you said exactly what they need from this team but again chicago entertaining if you look up match center in the middle of the match day and they're up by a few goals that's when you should tune in just to see an experiment. Every single time. They hit also we have to say good night for buca jacko similar teacher retail up for it engaged physical scores ago antion who there's injuries. So he gets the starting spot but he we. He's not a fullback. Everyone tells us he's not a fullback so he has to win a starting spot at winger. he's going to be a starter on this team. Swap both wings hadn assists in this game as well. We saw bo nice little near post. Finish from some tape on service. I i kind of mentioned it suzy. L. teams did not fare very well which makes sense. They expanded a lot over the course of the last week and a half ten days or so. I love it. I'm jack about luke. Sings minute professional player for twelve day. Yeah i felt bad me i did. I felt bad for him because the ball comes in behind off the turnover and him and romo kyoto. And i'm just like Damn loop. There's some good players who are going to get around rome al qaeda with his strength but this is this is what we want. As american and canadian soccer fans is like we should want to see nineteen twenty year old centrebacks thrown into the fire. Get a lesson from romell quioto in these games. Because it's only gonna make you better in the long run both for club and country by the other two that we saw that did really well. And i'm less side and see seattle played on sunday on f s one columbus in philly Was ill. We've had some nice moments. Kiss the top of the post with an incredible shot. He has a really really special ability to receive. Turn drive. see the pass. Play the right through ball with the right way. It just didn't come off right. These teams anything from this game that stood out to you it just. It just wasn't quite there. I was disappointed because it started really well and really promising. And i was like. Oh the aesthetics. Going to be great. We're going to see goals. It'll be back and forth and it fell flat a little bit. Which again the just expanded so much over. The last ten days at the beginning of the season you can understand it. Was there anything that you could pull away and say okay. Look at that the rest of the year okay. I'm gonna be watching this. I would say. I've been pretty hard on luis diaz. I've been underwhelmed by him. Obviously he didn't finish in this game but it was super active and one of the things i saw from him anytime. The ball came near him. He was already ready to go anytime the ball squirted out if it was in counterparts. Whatever it was. He was ready to be aggressive. And i don't know that he's been that guy over the course of the last two years kevin molina's out for a little bit and like we've talked about it. They have depth. They can cover blah blah blah. But if he's going to produce at a they brought him in as a young dp originally if he's going to produce at that level this team's filthy and that's how they're going to end up winning ac- seattle and so i think it was good to see that performance from him ultimately a good result for the union point on the road. They'll take it all day every day. Hey orlando Excuse me. I say got confused there i i started with orlando and i'm like they're the protagonist there the big guy. Sorry atlantis like five stripes. Happy to go on the road happened. Draw been on because the father. Dad i know start killed me. A my come on gabrielle. You know this is the opportunity. But i think hindsight looked at those performances to start the season and he said you know what maybe we're better off not putting all that pressure on joseph in this game because there would have been pressure real pressure. If he started this game the expectation would have been that he dominates orlando because of all the talking that he did about it. Because of all the like needling over the course of years in this preseason because of his previous goalscoring record against the lights like seven goals in six games and glances back. Joe bendik and just i mean the troll. Somebody's not on field. So i actually thought it was a smart move by gabriel. Heinz it so you know what. It's better off for the player. Better off for our team to like slow. Play this a little bit. Maybe i'm giving him too much. Couldn't stand the game in which joseph thin scar against orlando. i know. He's just thanking. God i. I was really disappointed when i saw that lineup. I i to throw my phone and be like god. How many times. I said the father is back. How many times have i written about this many times. Hyped this up and then it didn't quite get there didn't deliver that way. I mean nobody delivered in the final third in this game. Best moment of the game. Seven mendez backyard to setup. Pontoh potter takes too long so he just runs through him and takes out. Let's go seven m so much speaking of porto injury and this when it didn't look good but there's news. This morning julia pov landau sentinel says that the club. Though they haven't given a ton of information on it are saying that it is not an injury. It's a lower body injury that does not require surgery so that could mean a lot of different things about the fact that it doesn't require surgery is a is a really important thing for orlando. Because it doesn't look like darrell. Decays coming back in probably. Shouldn't it shouldn't come back right like you. You should sell him realistically And then it's really sort of unproven in a lot of ways behind him potter. That is what they have so anything from this game that you would that you would point to. I mean i. I struggle to see anything other than maybe the fact that it looks like hines a really has taken zeki barco under his wing a lot of communication directly to barco some better moments so not the final product which ultimately i i thought they were better moments other moments barco at least looked like you knew what he wanted to do. Even though i couldn't do it maybe that's still thinking three three touches too. Many like maybe he sees it but he's he's his timing on those passes and then late in the game he. He was out in space. Isolated against a centreback. And that's where you need like any fifteen million dollars. Aker him and he just dribbled right off his shin directly into antonio carlos who was fantastic by on this was great I think the the big takeaway from orlando city. First half they played a four four two. And it's weird because like the four four two. These days is almost like a specialist formation. It only exists really for teams. That wanna get out into transition as much as possible but orlando city. Were playing as kind of like possession formation. Which can't really do that anymore. in then they switched to a four to three one in the second half and i thought that worked a lot that so i think going forward especially as Maybe they get some of the new wingers up to speed pereira back. I mean he. He was suspended because member went. Four feet off the ground right right in their last game but we when we did their team preview. I dunno whatever we'd be made me do whatever it was He is one of the most influential chance creators in the leaders and for them specifically no one else really creates on their own. Outside of the pattern. I mean he's still. It's through the pattern of play but this was a fine performance. This is one of those players that they cannot reach their level without him. There are some seattle. One without neagle. Darrow. that's a massive moment. i don't know that orlando's really capable of that for long stretches without pereira and to be clear orlando city a great possession team at the start of last year. It wasn't just pereira was carreira. Roselle tina they had none of them in this game. If i'm in orlando city fan. I understand being frustrated at not getting the full three points against a wounded atlanta team exhausted atlanta team This performance was fine. It was fine gael. Go into next week get a little bit healthier. Get a little bit better. It's oscar eha. You should completely trust him to figure things out. Yeah i mean look in ninety completely. Trust his barber. I don't know if that's the right move from ninety but Yeah there was no creativity in the final third but somebody took chances with that haircut. I am not a fan of allah twenty two hundred twenty. Play the weekend kim clark. He only scores bangers now rebels in win. Skc go to rebel arena and get one. Shall we have represented this. is john. Pulse camp yeah exactly postgame gianluca. Buccio is a false nine on the bench celebrating. I mean it's a. It was a big win for sporting kansas city. But that came. Clark goal is just absurd. Like that's honestly that's exelon esque stuff. I think it was a nice volley. I didn't think it was really his. His foot is like middle of his chest. Professional soccer player. How many other. How many professional soccer players you see doing that. Not many not many okay. Fine this is taken. Clark eraser was really nice. It was it was a very goal and and you can see why he is headed to rb leipzig next year. What i can't figure out why he was on the side of the diamond interest in ca- sarah's s rather was Was at the point of the diamond. This it was. It was bizarre to see him out there. Because i think it limited his impact in the final third and he is probably the most gifted player on the team in the final third The pace of this game was ridiculous. The number and i wrote about this in my column like we have this data. Thanks to second spectrum tracking data that measures the number of possessions in a game and the red bulls last year played at the most frenetic pace in the league. Averaging one hundred eighteen possessions in the game in a game In this game they had one hundred thirty four warning. Kansas city had hundred fifty one possessions. I mean if you if you go back to kind of traditional numbers the passing percentage in this one where not they were not high. So i assume the that's where the possessions come from right. There's a lot of moments of like okay. Boss the way ball. Las go the other way and this is what this is what it's talking about with the four four two. The rebels play four. Four two diamond it is about generating it almost like artificial transition opportunities where you're just creating so many fifty fifties eventually you're gonna win one and everything becomes instantly vertical and see in my mind. Philadelphia are really good at this while still playing soccer. I would like that red bulls game. There wasn't there wasn't a ton of saw. One of the things that stands out to me about the way philly does it though is the way should bilko plays and kind of finds the space off in the corners and then holds up. The ball allows people to come in and then connect in the eighteen. Rebels were one super narrow and to don't have anyone who's capable of doing something like that in that attacking front and so that's one of the things that they lose that phillies done so well over the last two years. Now i guess for new york i. It was good to see them of like back to who they were. I guess you could say but you do. Come away from this game and say this kind of it was energetic. They scored they went ahead. Then they didn't have enough to get over the top and that's going to be the conversation. I think most of this year we. I don't know if you've got to watch this one. Because i know you were parenting. But if he can grab a couple of matchbox cars and just smash them into each other for for for ninety minutes that that's a good replay of this and then bring in tom. Barlow have him smashed for a while and then her non lozada comes in and puts about ten matchbox cars in each hand and just throw them at each other. We'll get to that one. The second we gotta get to brute show and the two thousand two hundred twenty two here. I wanted to be khadijeh because i. You're going to have a resurgence who made the nickname. That's exactly zana. Collins made the nickname she want to be. I felt like the nickname. Now y- best you could have a little whiny for me but you know. That's fine to nashville. I was making jokes about nashville when they were down to nothing that they they missed the bus But they should have won this game. They absolutely should have won this game. This is turning into a nice little robbery. And i should say not turning into it has been one from the us l. days But it's a great result for cincinnati to start the season. This is one sixth of their gold production from twenty twenty so they scored as many first half goals in this game as they did all of last year beautiful those are the stats that we love. This is the one i watched. I recommended as my espn plus. Because i thought it had ridiculousness written all over it and it almost did. I mean there were some crazy moments. In second. Half or nashville. Where like looking around like what are we. What are we gonna do here. How how do we get this baugh into the back of the net But lucho found spaces found gaps between the background. In the midfield he got turned. His goal was very nice little chip over the goalkeeper. Now over joe willis to put it in was was really nice. Joe willis's Face after he gave up pk and then it was scored on him was absolutely terrifying. But i don't think. I think both these teams can be happy about this. It's not the result that either wanted but nashville will believe they should have won. They put some goals. Get back to the national chef. Happy saying like okay. Fine literally just said happy should i. Unfortunately this is all recorded. So i guess you can check me on that one. I guess for where the games day was to come back and to get a point is okay but i think from a chance creation standpoint remember we said i three games leads the open cup and they've got a good schedule and this is a good opportunity. Does lead open cup. Yeah oh yeah good point. Wow i totally forgot about that. I mean that's andrew continue we record this. It's a beautiful thing What did you think of brenner. Real quick before we get to the mailbag. He looked like a player. He just liked the way he moved there. There was not a ton of combination play from cincinnati after the first fifteen minutes But he he. He passed the test in gated on. He got on the board. So there's not going to be any eight hundred pound gorillas on anybody's back same with lucho it was. It was a good fifteen minutes from from cincinnati. And that's something to build on and you saw you saw later on. He wasn't getting touches. he wasn't getting opportunities. He was aggressive when he got the ball. He tried to make something happen. He didn't it. Didn't feel like he dropped his hat and just jogged around at the top like he stayed engaged over the course of which he's going to have to do because Awesome the attacking pieces. They picked up. I don't know that they have a starting center packing. Mls rosser right now. That's gonna make it really hard and there it is. That's the true confirmation. Take confirmed truth. There these games happen. But we're probably not going to talk about them. A ton dallas colorado scoreless. The moment you probably saw michael barr standing in the wrong team photo with a big smile on his face Early early season game for both of them just didn't have the sharpness Dc nyc afc to really good goals for dc. Wanna make sure. David gets his package. Get that doorman To really nice goals for them in seed probably kicking themselves a little bit but the assad era gets off to a nice start they They need these moments. I think is they make the transition to sort of confirm that they're going in the right direction and and keep getting by but you're not gonna get a brennan hines ike like thirty yard laser beam and a training ground. Julian wrestle to skulls z. I mean canals goal very often had any wavy right now. Second spectrum says brendan hines ale. One bangor per game in his mls career. So that's true. trust. I yeah a better though. Let's get to the mailbag. What are they real. Quick second and talking about houston houston went out and they made some additions. This off season and we focused mostly on tim parker for understandable reasons like he. He is center back in the prime of his career. Who has been good in. Mls before and i thought he was good in this game even though he got trucked a couple of times by kate cal The other thing that kind of flew under the radar was they went out and got fafa pico. And they got maxine rooty and then they got tyler pasher own. Us l. pico is one of the best pressing wingers in the league and has been for a few years now. A rooty it. His his shot selection remains maddening to me. But he's one of the best pressing forwards in the league and he has been for a while now and then pasha was an excellent all around winger last year in us l. They pressed the hell out of san jose. So just like applaud tab ramos for understanding the strengths of his roster and playing to it. Which is what. Look if you are not among the most talented teams in the league. Then you have to find your advantages where you can in the advantages for the sounder. Shatters advantage for the dynamo right now is that they have this front line full of guys who will just be miserable to play against and the other thing that tad did that. I thought was really good. Switch from four three three that he used to an almost fatal extent last year to more of a four to three one was joe corona holding next to Next vera was awesome by the way but corona just a little bit more stability so that when they did turn the ball over in central midfield wasn't a five alarm fire whereas last year it was all five alarm fires in transition for the dynamo so really good week. One from from tab ramos in houston. I was reading through tweets that we got putting out for the mail did you mention bonet. Garcia centreback extraordinaire a defender of the year. I was hoping you know if kaelin was on the show you know he would have been wearing his old boniek jersey and the stump speech. I'm just saying the. The new paolo maldini as defender of the year not left back but bobby would have been delighted And also by the way there are two bonar they're twins so there's two of them does this mean have in the future possible starting dynamo centrebacks. That's from the bony. Twins like one should be beckenbauer. Style like senator backslash sweeper and the other one has to be just like a goal poaching center for. We need them. Come on we'd left-footer and a right-footer we need balanced back there. You need to be able to connect those passes to the outside backs. Get the right angles on those. Let's go to the mailbox. Four one two zero six zero s extra time. Soccer dot com. What are we got mike. Molinaro starts us off. Basically says cannot believe that twenty twenty one seasons here as a rapids fan thinking about all they lost last year. He can't wait to get back to what he hopes is a growing rapids fan base. A bunch of players they're going to grow with. He says he's got full. Trust in robin fraser and the culture that they're building and he believes there'll be a contender this year. Go pets it's started slow for them. i just. They've had some very bizarre circumstances over the last two years. And i wonder what this year will be like when one other teams don't have bizarre circumstances and neither do they like the whole anthony. Hudson thing us the world incomes conor casey. We didn't make the playoffs but it was beautiful. I mean that was awesome and last year would just so starr stopped for them. I'm curious to see whether this young team can sort of build on that and actually achieve what we all think. Their talent says that they can't achieve. I don't think it's the road plan. The route tocqueville. She's now at times through a tweet. Here i wanna get to randy bruce. More impressive brace. Ruidiaz or teacher reto. I think you didn't given what it means for. Both him and the galaxy it's cheap thereto. And i think the first goal that chitose scored the the one where he cuts across the defender and finish his left footed against his body moments like that was the most impressive individual goals of the four. So i'll give it to teach. The second was christian rolled on put it on a platter for like the weight of that past unbelievable and the first one bruin pulled it back in. But these like these guys are so similar because they're so good at finding those pockets of space and thinking the gain a second and a half ahead of the defenders. And that's how you get tap so that's how you get completely open. Looks from fourteen yards and when these guys get that they're just devastating about route on pullbacks. He doesn't have to even shift his hips on goal because he can swing through so clean. It's like basically never even in on goal and then it's one zero two zero which jonathan scott knows what's up longtime listener first-time caller. How's it feel to have basically every team that extra time dot com ranked as bad. This season play with a chip on their shoulder. To prove us wrong. Mantra dc sounders whitecaps etcetera is media affecting the league exactly and we set the narrative the tone and will everybody on. We're just exactly. Did you live. Replay of week one of mls. Every year. i seven minutes. Someone's score a goal. Oh you're wrong about this team. Then they give up a goal while it's early then the game ends exactly how we thought it would and everyone does good thing. You're idiots charlie. Here from irvine says this. But i'm allowed on the show says gotta say i've been to enough club. Soccer high school soccer in la galaxy games to say that the bank at quarter capacity is still louder. Second half starting now because he sent it during the game. Hopefully cal jennings gets it done for oil doyle you jennings guy yeah the cal jennings just think it's a. I think it would be a great story. If like former first round pick who didn't even make dallas but then tore it up in us l. to the extent that elliott paid a transfer fee for him Was like the answer center forward as opposed to going out and getting the But that is that was some very good l. afc shade at other neighbors By the way the crowd in miami was pretty pretty pretty good as well. They were there about it so that was cool to see. That's really their first chance to do that. As always we encourage you to get vaccinated and to be safe wherein we were. Can we close out on an mvp email from shuki. He says this was from last week. So he says glad we coming out of malays. There are two additional reasons to be excited about. Mls his success. I relates a conversation. You had a couple of weeks ago about you. Twenty three failures in guadalajara. Every additional game. That george bello anthony fontana or unfortunately he said eighty morris which now doesn't seem we didn't can play in mexico or honduras makes us even better going forward. The other is additionally. Last night's toronto win over on was particularly important for next year. Seeding of teams the cc. L. draws based on how teams in that country's particular slot have performed him a tournament over the last five years beating the fourth mexican team shares that next year no to molest teams will have to play each other in the first round increasing. Our chances of advancing more teams into the quarter-finals and then he finishes with dare to dream the higher. You fly the more more than more spectacular. The fall yeah. I'm i'm i'm on the side now like it's all gravy. Let's get it. And i was in a really bad spot there for a while. Just so we end on a down. Noman eight morris out for nine to twelve months towards acl that that is that's painful. That sucks that sucks for the kid. It sucks for the crew. it just. it's it's one of those moments. These things happened in sports. We see him jordan. Morris is off trying to live his dream. The unthinkable happens but Just best aid morrison. His recovery hope gets back Stronger and continues on the trajectory that he was on. I'm not gonna allow you to close on this. I'm going to close on. Comcast finally officially announced the schedule for c. l. and guaranteed because atlanta's playing philly and. Mls team is going to be playing in august in a semi-final awesome awesome. And that's what i've been waiting for. I don't know it's kind of like now. I gotta watch the season as like which of them has earned success philly knocks out atlanta now all philly for the next three months. Who do you think in august would be the better team honors tearing his hair out right now. I think atlanta have higher upside because of joseph but joseph hasn't looked like joseph yet philly have really good philly have surprised me with how good they've been despite their injuries and the guys they sold this off season. I'm rooting for philly. Earn their place in the cop champions league and we're out with that mic drop. Let us know what you think. Tuesday or excuse me thursday. We're back with charlie davies. Two previous week in any thoughts questions takes four one two zero six zero extra time in soccer dot com all the coverage right there in los dot com and the new. Mls apple see you later in the week everybody.

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Doyle & Davies' Mock SuperDraft! JMo to Swansea? Neville to Miami?

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Doyle & Davies' Mock SuperDraft! JMo to Swansea? Neville to Miami?

"You're listening to extra time driven by continental. You're feeling for that matter. I feel a lot better. Bob extratime mason psychic. How i find out what's going on in the mls got lost that lawsuit. Maybe this podcast isn't me a little bit as well. Because of the experts from yet path. Everybody here every single day goes into the office into the laboratory to try to cook up some great stuff for you guys swine From kansas city missouri. You are listening to extra time driven by continental from my basement injury with my partners in soccer. David goss mattdoyle. That's just the three of us. Just us nobody knew here. Nobody we've been missing. Certainly not charlie davies a building. What's up man. It feels good to be back happy new year to view. It's january nineteenth. It's and yes. Let's go let's go. Mls draft. I'm hyped super draft. Put the super on the front of it. Come on charlie you know this civilized supermac twenty twenty one is on thursday. We of course are coming to you on tuesday because martin luther king junior day was monday so we hope you reflected on that day learn. Something tried to educate yourself spoke to the people around you. Maybe your kids your family either way thursday. We can now focus a little bit on soccer because all of these college players are going to have their dreams. Come true now. They've got a lot to earn after. Those dreams come true but at two pm eastern on thursday a super twenty twenty one presented by deis. There are three rounds in two thousand and twenty one. We will stream the entirety of that first round to you on. Mls platforms talking twitter. Facebook youtube ima soccer dot com the app pluto. Tv tune in there. I will be hosting this thing. We got doyle we got charlie. Both those guys providing analysis devon kerr with interviews. We have cameras with players on sites. You'll see the reactions. We will try to make this as normal as possibly can be in the year. Twenty twenty one. Which was a weird year. We're gonna talk about generation adidas class so far just three names. We know that often changes. We're gonna have the charlie and doyle mock draft one through ten with a little bit of a trivia question determine who gets the number one pick so start you know combing through those memory banks boys and then there's not really much other news around. Mls it's like it's strangely. Quiet is just. It's almost like it's infuriating. It's not like jordan. Morris might go on loan to swansea city in the championship. Certainly we don't have a new sporting director and head coach. Maybe one of david beckham's best friends in miami and definitely dc. United didn't go to belgium to get their next head coach. All of that happened. We have so much to talk about a no time to waste. Let's go right now. Tell me about this year. Charlie i know you focus on college. Soccer in a lot of your professional endeavors with the sec network. What went on this season in college soccer because it was not normal just like everything else. Yeah the acc tremendously proud of acc. The athletes come together to to play out the season. Everyone was safe for the most part. They're able to to go out and play the game. And what i saw is clemson win the acc tournament. They they were a stack team just like last year but they are able to finally put it together and win a championship A and you had wake forest again. Star said a team. They have a great coach When you look at bobby museum what he's been able to do at wake forest I it's mike. Noonan in imbaba moose. The to clemson and wake forest have really developed some fantastic players who are able to make the transition. So when i watched this year i saw players a big step forward when i look at commodity smith from clemson the left winger who really rely just on pace last year this year was able to combined play one. Two's may great runs a good finisher but also a provider. I was really impressed with what i saw. From courtney smith calvin harris and other winger stand out winger from wake forest. I think as a freshman was kind of just trying to find his way and adjust this year took it upon himself to be the leader really cutthroat with his runs. Great finisher can can be join the dribble on one his his jagai to generation. I was hoping you were guide us through the the lay of the land. I know there's some players who are excited about him. You watched them a ton but like wasn't the acc the only league that actually had a league in college soccer this year. When i say always bazaar and it was. It was not like any other season to scout. Ever these rams are looking at something and they're not able to go like for like in previous years they're having to really pick up the pieces and sort of fine nuggets from previous years or whatever happened to this year. I mean it's it's a stranger to scout college soccer it is because you're basing a lot of the stats at least from twenty nine at so it's a year ago. You don't know if players are progressing. Maybe there were players at like a calvin harris. Who was a freshman really hadn't really been able to identify himself within the team grow. This would have been that year to showcase. Hey this is the step i took. I feel the confidence and you know. There are players who develop at different stages throughout their college career. So you don't know where that next step is or how much they've improved. Maybe it's all been behind closed doors and they're ready to take that step into major league soccer you just don't know so there are a lot of unknowns and that comes down to how serious are the scouts within each organization. Are they doing their work are they. Are they making the context. They talking to coaches. Are they going to watch players. You'll tell by this draft if there are some players who you may be never heard of who get drafted is because scouts actually probably went to watch these players. Wash them play behind closed doors and say this guy is exactly who we need. We're going to give him row opportunity versus the big names in college soccer because they they play these big programs. You just taking a chance because They play at waco where they play at constantly playing these e see going to do it as opposed to art. We're gonna find a player that maybe not to be talking about self. I'm really interested to see out. The super draft turns out. How are you prepping. Doyle like i'm trying to prep right now. And it is not as easy as it has. Hosted super drafts passed. Yeah it's it's tough in. It goes to what charlie side with only one league really playing this year. There's there's there are more variables out there like there is gonna be somebody called in the top ten who we just did not expect to be drafted in the top ten. And it's going to be. Because charlie again as charlie said. Somebody did their scouting on him. Somebody likes this player. More than any of the consensus picks. And they're going to you know. Pull the trigger with a high pick. So it's gonna be tough that said there is a lot of i mean we. We have a lot of film right. We can watch that film Till the end. Today's basically and there are smart people out there some of them in. Mls front offices. Some of them You know in college programs or at least around college programs around the college game Who are happy to talk about who they think are the best picks and what to look for and one thing to kind of remember is that the consensus picks are usually the consensus picks for a reason like there are occasional. Big miss thomas hillyard. Say a couple years ago You know coming from a stanford program that produces a lot of talent but they defended a specific way. That just doesn't really translate mos That one was wrong. But if you look at the top of most drafts. Topmost drafts are pretty solid in emily's history. So i think. I i think while it's different than prepping in years past. It's also really really similar. And the the determining factor for most of these kids is not gonna be talent is going to be fit in opportunity. If you end up with a team like new england or like orlando or like minnesota that really values the super draft. You're gonna get your chance to play if you end up with a team Maybe closer to the bottom of the first round that obviously if you have lower pick you up less less invested in it It's gonna be a lot tougher so it you know all you kind of have a rick. Rebalance all of these things and you have a decent sense of what. At least the first tenor fifteen picks is gonna look like so one of the things noticed as we go through a mock draft is college. Soccer has turned very international heavy. Because a lot of the best prospects now go into academies in the domestic scene. So that's the other part. The teams have to weigh is. Is it worth international roster spot which are limited. But the one thing i'll say about this year is don't be surprised. If teams rely a lot on they go out now in recruit for their academy so a lot of the players they will be high on and pick our guys that they tried to get into their academies or have played against that the da and the other is. Don't be surprised if your team takes players that are local. Because they were able to get those guys into trainings into sessions. Pd l. while now. Us leap to and didn't even exist this year. Stuff like that over the last few years. That's what a lot of teams are going to lean on. Is the guys that there are more familiar with so dallas takes smu players and the ohio teams take notre dame players and all those things. Don't be shocked because that's where you're going to get that leg-up where you didn't get to watch guys fully this year and have that full experience is who are you more engaged with. Who do you trust more. Who do you know better so we know the class. Philip aca cleansing. Calvin harris wake forest pereira virginia tech as. I said it's always is that there are additions. There's always negotiations going on. There's always sort of a last second ad and teams understand that these things are happening are kept apprised and then it happens and you know that they get added in gi players. We also know are more often than not taking at the very highest then because of the cap implications that they have and also just the age and the talent side so before we get to your mock draft and before we get to these players and maybe you could throw them in there. You want as an example. Tell me about the pool. Charlie when you look at this overall pool where are their strengths. Is this a centreback heavy pool. Is this a leftback. Heavy pool are. There are a lot of goalkeepers that you think teams are going to be going out and looking at it and say hey. They can get into my roster. I can sign them to contract. Or i can stash him and try to bring up through. What do you see as the strengths of this draft on the overall talent pool. I would say it's centreback heavy It's definitely a defensive draft defensive-minded draft that you can look at henry kessler. And when he was able to do this year with the new england revolution and now with an influx of talent and the call from the college level. I'm less executives no. We don't have to go spend a crazy amount of money to get some of these players to be impact players in customers case. It was right away and they'll decay case. It was halfway through the season. So you can find the right player for your system. Whether it's you can play in right away or it takes time for him to develop and make an impact in a player who can deliver on all on all cases. So i think when you look at this draft every major league. Soccer team needs a centreback. There's not one team that can say. Aw we don't need depth or cover here or maybe someone to come in right away in some cases you look at some of these mosser's they need a center back to play right away. 'cause the quality they have is not good enough to win so i think with that. Said there's going to be a number of defenders taken. I think there are some strong goalkeepers as well in this pool and i wouldn't be surprised a goalkeeper to or taken in the first round and then there are. There are some electric wingers in this in this pool as well so Yeah i'm really. I'm really curious to see the out. Of the first five. To ten picks which direction these mls executives are going door. Take us through the j class if you might. You've talked a lot about full on this show. But we haven't touched calvin harris's much and certainly haven't touched dino pereira is calvin harris is He's almost jordan morris ask in terms of his speed and his willingness to come inside and have a go he in the differences. Harris's assure winger jordan jordan morris at to learn to play that role. He's not as good a her but he is he is the type of guy who if you're mean it. It's funny because wake forest. Is the most possession heavy team in college soccer. They play real soccer. Most college teams do not But calvin harris kind of had to learn to be a possession player. 'cause he's just devastating in the open field devastating on the on. The counter-attacks was very good learning experience. I think for him to be in that system for a couple of years as for my aca. And and danny pereira both central midfielders. Both guys have played a little bit more and attack in college. I think they will anamalous while they're going to have to learn to win the ball a little bit better But both are i think going to be very good number eight in this in this league and then like you said there's going to be a couple more to come. I have some names here before we get into our mock draft which i think is like the main event here because people just want to know who their club is taken. Why they're taking them. What the needs are outside of. Maybe just a best available which is how most teams should approach this. And i just want to give you an idea For those out there that Super draft not gonna probably not going to be anything that i care about and look the numbers game is not one that is advantageous for players over the course of multiple rounds like we've seen in the last couple drafts. The third round is littered with passes teams are are literally passing at that point. That's not to say they don't think there's more talent out there because they're going to sign players to bring them to their preseason camps as well that they've scott as you said dave who have a little bit more familiarity to them but like let's just go back to two thousand eighteen in the second round. There's danny moscow who scored a bunch of goals for l. Afc this year. It took a while for him he played in. Ussl but it took a he got there. That's in just the second round in the first round trip and blackman is a starter for the final jumbo tino. If you would've stayed healthy would have been left for one of the best teams in the molasses. Year chris. mueller. Was taken six mason toy seven brandon by very good right back in this league at the very least starting caliber john gallery goods traded for a bunch of allocation money. Like there is something to be had here. There is big value for teams. That take it. Seriously frankie maya number one in two thousand and nineteen trump you can. How many times. Charlie have we listen to you. Acce poetic ninth by maintain saint clair starting goalkeeper for minnesota undershooting cheeky. I mean you can go on and on. I'm not saying that that's critical mass here. I'm saying that if you make the right decision in the right place with the right fit as doyle said there is value in the super draft. And that's what these teams are. Be trying to do on thursday to find that that one or two players. They're trying to be the team that we talk about on the show when we say. Hey what an incredible draft was. They got three players filled roster holes for them for five years. Or you know if you go way back. We can't see all the time they set the tone four basically a decade now. Do i think those players are out there and that sort of concentrations going to happen for teams know that was probably once in a lifetime. But there's huge value here. So let's get to the doyle. And charlie mock draft twenty twenty one presented by adidas end continental all of the sponsorships wrapped up into the singular mock draft on one through ten. So ten picks. You'll go back and forth and data. Let's just start off has the first pick. But we don't know which of you is going to start do you. Were assigned some tragedy. Okay but who gets to answer trivia question. I because as to competitive gm's these guys want every advantage. That question. I in a bud. Oh okay cool so. We went through straps of for a lot over the last show. One of the ones we keyed in on was two thousand and four new england revolution. They took clint dempsey with their first. Pick they then had a pick in the third round and then the sixth round. They took andy dorman who went on to be a strong player for them. The player they took in the third round did not make revolution debut until eight years later in two thousand twelve. Who was this player. Oh my i'll get hold on two thousand twelve. You said he made. He made his debut in two thousand twelve draft years later we'd be grabbing guy ryan guy. He's the right guy now. Know that is a good guess. I can give clues necessary. They were pretty stumped tier. I shouldn't be playing. That he went to is the same school as one of the generation. Adidas class players. Okay my so two four. They were taking a lot of wake forest. Yeah heart games riley. I've not james. Michael parker is he was wake james riley similar to michael parker. This player made his best run of professional games in denmark. I mean i think. I know who it is but i and i i like no. I don't because no i don't i wanted to say marcus tracy but marcus obviously would way later. And he's he's one the one i'm going to get. I wanted to be marcus. Because i was like dave would go markus. That's my mind and i wanted to. Markets sounds two thousand. I mean look. There's a three minute clock in the drive. we're gonna hit that the trivia question question. I know them personally. I thought the name pop at some point for doyle so wake forest along attacker attacker wake forest attacker jeremiah. White gay That's a good one. That's a good the denmark denmark can't really should have done i think that's what put it over the top and another american at aj. After what. i'm charlie little bit round here. you're a little. I don't know how you can do. The draft goes to austin f c and general manager matt. Yes i didn't. I definitely didn't want to start here at second. The second up too bad well. You got a lot on your shoulders as the representative for fc cincinnati. Charlie he does because the first pick is easy. The second pick is actually genuinely tough the first pick with number one overall austin. Fc taking philip my aca the box to box central midfielder clemson mayaka is generation adidas kid. He's from kenya He's played a little bit of everything for clemson. But i i really see him as a long term number eight in this league. He covers every blade of grass. Yes a really good range of passing. He's good receiving the ball in traffic. He might need might need to toughen up a little bit might need to play a little bit meaner. But that's okay. A lot of kids need to learn how to do that and he has the advantage of playing next to next. Alex ring so i i. I honestly think this is a no brainer. For austin i have been looking at. You know mock drafts. Big boards talking to people around the league talking to people in college. I have heard a single person say anyone bought. Philip should go so in that scenario. Because i agree with you but when i found interesting is if they don't take him or austin doesn't want him. It doesn't make sense that fc cincinnati would do you see a team trading up to get into this spot. If austin let's say doesn't want an international central midfielder out of college or something like that it's a fair question I haven't thought about it enough to say. I could see houston deciding what they month. This kid because with the way houston build. They're not gonna. I don't think they're going to spend a lot of money to bring it You know. International central midfielders and they do meet a high level number eight So he could make a lot of sense for them But i i do suspect that austin would want to just sit right here take a kid who could potentially start at some point in two thousand twenty one and maybe by twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three. We're talking about a a kid. Who is talented enough to maybe be sold for five. Six million dollars. He is that level of play. If i'm not jordan in houston i'm sitting back. I'm calling up. Cloudy i'm blank. Look you give me the one pick. I'll give you the three pick. Let's talk about joe corona just for the better just to see what he says just to see what he says all right. Fc cincinnati. On the clock charlie icu. Scribbling gun through your notes who does fc. Cincinnati take with the number two pick of the super twenty twenty one presented by adidas. They're going go with josh. Bauer senator biden new hampshire and from where from new hampshire from the great state of new hampshire. You're right from the state. New hampshire ran its curve. What happens here. Is you looking at their needs. And they don't need an attacker they do not need another attacker. Have low cardio kubat and they're talking about lucas petoskey. We'll get to that later. So they're they're looking to bring in another attacker right. You don't you. Don't you another attacker. You have midfielders franken. My crews harris do jin Broadened ben mines You have options there. So i'm not. I'm not going to throw in winger either. So centreback or goalkeeper goalkeeper is also an interesting position because they could go for mataya swan. Affeldt swung from virginia tech who's also dutch and yup salmon and having a a six foot three goalkeeper. Who led the acc and saves and twenty nineteen Not a bad selection either. So but i think they're gonna go with josh. Our they they need to senator back. They need help That's one position. They really lack in this. A strong tough centre-back he by example. He's he's tremendous in the air Great communication good one. V one defender. He's athletic. I think they're going go in that direction. Is he for you. The top centreback You're telling me right to you. This is the top centreback centreback heavy draft. He's just a all about defense. I if you want someone who's just committed to defending and is a team guy. Josh bauer is your man. He's tough as nails a wash them playing twenty nineteen against syracuse on. The road He's he's he's the real deal could emit a granite reference tough granite hard as granted. Charlie just in the future is your announcing players for whatever it is. Then gosh shires. That's just you know just a little hint for you as you get that messaging right. That's the following. Charlie's point. There isn't an mls team that exists. That doesn't need a domestic centreback. There this is a good centreback class. There's not a team that can make a bad pick by taking a risk on one of those every great team analyst history has domestic centrebacks that are under friendly contracts. That have helped them build so it makes sense for cincinnati. I just have to throw out friend of the show. Mike lahud big on calvin harris. Who's a wake forest graduate as well and wants. Fc cincinnati really badly to take him. So you'll be stupid. G guy is a low roster. Spend even though it's an international spot and out of your back thing is great but you're not going to select a player who's not even going to really get an opportunity to play you know if we're reading because like if you look at the way stan wants to play. I think he wants to play in a four three three and they really only have one true winger on the team. And that's boral and it's not clear. He's an mls caliber player. Like it's it's just not right. Kudos adam winger look has played on the wing but he's center forward. He might not be back. Like joe was more of a wingback at this point has never produced. And mine's been decent in the us l. But he hasn't done much. Mls so it's just tough. It's like i'm not knocking. Charlie's pick. I think i would probably go with the back as well. But like calvin harris is a legit talent. I think he's probably a better winger than anybody. They have on their team. And if can get a winger from the draft that means you don't have to go out and spend three million dollars to fill that slot and we also have pederson in haglund and as you're starting center walk in and vendor wharf and abdul salaam so you're also having a college kid come in and your best centreback so unless former saint john's graduate tim parker which we will talk about. Maybe maybe maybe d houston dynamo number. Three are now on the clock. This is mattdoyle pick. What are you got on. Yeah i'm going to do the same thing That charlie did. I'm not going to go for the best player on the board which is still calvin harris I'm gonna go for Nabi c-a-b-a gucci the center back from uc davis He's a lot like Bauer he's probably not quite as athletic as as ours but he does appear to have. Mls level athleticism maybe a little bit better passer And the dynamo like cincinnati. Need a plug and play centreback. They badly need to get this. Pick correct i. I think that would maybe look at at any pereira here because they also need a high usage number eight who can sort of get on the ball. Connect the back line to the front line but they may think that. Joe corona's the man for that job Kipah grinchey is. He has a. He's an american so that like he doesn't take up an international roster spot and we know that the vast majority of the best centrebacks. Nmls history have been american centrebacks in draft given that given houston's need given the roster situation i think that go for whoever they deem to be the best centre-back left on the if you wanna play a fun game and i played this game the other day as i went through every single super draft trying to do the best eleven from super draft history. Just start naming the best back unless history almost to a man like all the way down the line you can get like thirty five guys that are best eleven international calibre taken in the super draft centrebacks. The vast majority of them obviously american. So this is why teams do this and we have to centrebacks in our top three in this. Mock draft fourth overall dc united anonymous. I don't know what he knows. This new head coach. Charlie davies about the super draft pool but kevin payne. I'm sure we'll have been scouting. So who's he taken. Dave kasper definitely come pain. Wow i went straight back home. I blacked out and nineteen ninety-six. Wow shot at the campaign. Wake up where am i. So it's no secret. They need a striker. And you look at an older kamara who struggled mightily You have Raina sore ga. Neither of those guys are a real nines so edward kiza in luther arch. Amedee are the two top picks they can make for that position Calvin harris still probably the best player available commodity smith. But you have russell oriola you have assad you have griffin. Yeah you have wingers in a number of them so you bring in someone who's gonna score goals and i think edrich as a as a as a poacher ease in the box they need someone who's just gonna finish opportunities. They're going to have players. Who can put the ball in the box. You just need someone who makes great runs. The anticipation is air in a good finisher. Edward qisas a proven finisher in college soccer. For every season i think could go with edward keesa from his from is our fourth. Pick for dc. United atlanta's on the clark did that. Open up an opportunity oil for atlanta. Did somebody stay available that you now take. Yeah i mean it'll be tough because atlanta have They're importing a lot of players So that does put a bit of a squeeze on their international roster spots but calvin harris on the board at number five. You just like you have to take the best talent available And that's what he is right here esp and he could fit especially given that you know. Maybe you'll barco sold And that could open up that left wing side which is where harris would play and there is the potential for a little bit of playing time available on right wing on the right wing as well. If you're dom doesn't fit. What gabriel heinze wants to Wants to do so. I i just think you know it with atlanta's roster being what it is. They don't have an obvious place that they need to fill. So whoever you know whatever the the previous pixar they're going with best talent available here. And so calvin harris it is charleston harris. I mean you're all up real quick for you to with at this point One of the names we haven't mentioned is ethan. Barlow out of washington who is rumored to be generation adidas centreback. How much would that have changed. What you've done so far in that. Is he better than the centrebacks you pick as a gi centreback. Would he pushed into these five picks so far consensus amongst the people. I've talked to is that. If he does sign a j deal he will. He won't drop pass number three. So you're looking at houston there. Yeah most likely houston or cincy. Am i one of the two or three. And then josh. Bauer is going to be two or three. I think it's gonna. I think both teams are desperate for for centreback. You are there. Are there. Comparisons and mls. You can give for some of these guys like. Is that possible at their names at jump off the top of your head with a josh power Any any of these three centrebacks. We're talking about or is it. Whereas i a little bit too ephemeral for this moment for me if i was gonna go josh bauer. It's more like a walker zimmerman that that would be my comparison with josh bauer. Yeah i was thinking more birnbaum which is a similar player than white have. I don't think he quite has walkers athleticism or sort of like yellow approach to distribution But like he can he can do what those guys data in come in and be a really really good centreback for awhile. Barlow's different man. Arlo he takes pieces. He takes penalties. He passes the hell out of the ball. There aren't a lot of guys like that. Who come through draft. Maybe a smaller hedges hedges just a brilliant distributor could may be that kind of player in. I mean if those are players. You're talking about building a team around for a decade. All three of them so that would be pretty good news for anybody who's able to pick them up. Of course you gotta make that career once you get there. But there is some town here in the rapids. We know like to build young and they like to go after. Maybe guys that that other teams aren't thinking about shinyashiki was a big prospect. He worked out really well for them at number six here. Charlie where you goin'. Yeah probably commodity smith because we got the pick. It's your pig. you're probably we're go. We're going with commodity. Smith gives us county so played primarily as a left winger at clemson but also could play as the number nine I think he makes great runs. Hold up play playing one two. They could use another attacker. Also they could use a centre back for cover when you when you look at. I think they're gonna play lawless. Boubacar an trustee but you could use some cover. their en- goalkeeper also is an another position. That i don't think they're too strong. So there are there shelters another one that stands out to me at uva george galveston has done a tremendous job again of developing talent at virginia. And so you can't go wrong with that. Pick either but we're going to go with commodity smith from clemson right wing action for the rapids. They'll crowded out there for them but actually get their depth chart they do have pretty deep roster right now how about real salt lake at seven elliott false still making those decisions for them oil. What are they going with. Yeah it's it's a tough one Just looking at their depth chart right now You know they need. They need some help on the back line. So this is where you know. If bartlett gets added to the class it makes it much easier. Because it's likely at this point that one of our barlow or a grinchey is is available now the way. We're doing it all those guys which is tough. Best remaining player is danny pereira But he doesn't really fit in obvious. Need for for this team for you. Can you tell it installing. Well well you mentioned some of those names. So i think brett halsey is the other rumored g. a contractor right back out of virginia which no no no no he there things right back but his long term position is definitely central midfield after watching him this year. He's clean on the ball great awareness. He when when virginia was on because of brett halsey he makes himself available. Great first touch good distribution. This is a player who. I don't think long terms futures at right back because of the lack of pace like one be one defending. That wasn't his strong suit but his strong suit is coming for the ball. Being available connecting passes. He was box to box one of those players. I was really impressed with his growth from last year to this year. So i think long term. We're gonna seem as a number eight box box major. Pick level at that position you. Yes how was that for killing time for the team's needed that player. Which which. Just like a pereira danny. Pereira you look at him. Great player a lot of potential. But if he's not selected one with austin you look at the needs of the next teams. It's how many players Teams need that number eight to come in and right away and make an impact not too many cristian. Don would tell you that you'd better off waiting for the right team and the right fair right. Yeah at who's the seventh picture for like just just knocking secondary o'clock we take. Can we say it's ourselves need everything. Take david go striker luther. No they're not gonna take striker here. they're gonna take danny. Pereira is the best player left on on the board and while he doesn't fit in immediate need for them There to deeper lying midfielders in damir kreilach and everton. Louise are both well into their thirties. So he does fit kind of as a an heir apparent if you can go out there and out compete Like nick beasley Portfolio and win that the flexibility alone. I mean you get a dice. Roll here for essentially free on your cap. So that's worth it and a lot of ways to portland timbers at the eighth slot where you go enzi easy so we look at the roster pretty stacked when it comes to taking talent Midfield talent you look in the back. They're weak back. Just let go of. I still elsewhere. Gno or abf is gone. Eight and stanley he was at duke is a left-back. He's almost like a the mold. Of a chris tierney but probably a little bit more athletic but good left-back serves in a dangerous balls can get up and down physical athletic. They're going to go with him. Sign sign him up. It's it's an easy pick for for portland timbers. They need help outside back. You could also go for keeper. Pick charlie hedge it now. You took back incidentally. So that's what this draft is about as well you need. Those deaths spots at outside back another positions. Want to spend money on here. You go portland timbers got some vancouver whitecaps doyle is a little bit more obvious on this one than was real salt lake for you. It's not because if you look at this team they they're like the rosters actually pretty deep so they can just go with whatever they they perceive to be the best player on the board almost regardless of position and at that point. Now i'm looking through my depth chart and holy on compla- charlie. We can't pick him yet. We cannot officially signed yet. I i think. I'm going to go with a draft left from from denver. He's a converted attacker now. Granted that they that makes them three deep at left back at this point. But i'm not sure that eliade non is going to be there throughout the twenty twenty one season so i think just being able to take a guy who projects as a player who can get forward and maybe make a difference in attack in this league From program that has been putting players into mls. I don't want to say this is a no brainer But this is not one that gonna over thick. If you have to have a left back dp you just gotta do it. Also spike plays left back the kingfisher. I don't know if he has knew that the mascot there in vancouver nobody that nobody read that piece school with a callback to his own. It's just you know the great in the great tradition of the that you've taught me doyle inch and maybe more so ceylan. You've always got to be promoting yourself. Inter miami the tenth. Pick the end of our mock draft here. Charlie it's all you put a put a cap on it. Rio gunned hope from georgetown centreback. You look miami's a goalkeeper. At that is crystal. Clear luis rojas. He left yet. You really don't have much you you need a goalkeeper but you also want to take a valuable pick when you when you have one and centreback is also an area where you need to improve your defense. You have gonzalo higuain with tweety. You have lewis morgan. You have players. We're gonna make the difference where you need stability in the back. Young up and coming centreback from georgetown. That's that's my pick right there. Athletic can cover ground Good timing with tackles that that's miami we're gonna put these out on On social and see how close you guys get. How close do you think you will be on thursday two pm eastern hustings streams are doyle. I can understand it. Got hard because with you just picked to washington player for the last five years because credit will always picks his alma mater hence how. Tfc is going to take a duke player. It's pretty simple sometimes. But it's gotten more difficult now with some of those guys move. So i will say is how how we did like to be a mess after number one is specifically if bartlett signs. Because like i think he'll probably go number two and then like our whole mock draft that we just did it goes up with me but like my ach is going to be number one. Bauer cuban gucci Kiza harris in pereira. Are i think something close to guaranteed to be top ten picks. I would be shocked if any of those guys dropped out of the top. Ten kamari smith aiden stanley real gun. Hope josh drank little bit more questionable but all those guys are first rounders just a matter of when and where it's all about as you said you wanna get into a situation we can play sorry fit in our good now fraternity fitting opportunity. Just repeat after me. Thursday two pm eastern super draft twenty twenty one presented by adidas. You can watch the first round live we will be streaming at a hosted. Dewael in charlie will be there for the expertise and then devon crow of interviews. We'll see reactions from a ton of these players as they get chosen and then we shall see we shall see what impact they can make on twenty twenty one so tune in for that one and we will break it all down. Give some grades on friday as well. That's another program note for you. We'll be back on friday. We'll be busy on thursday with the super. Twenty twenty one presented by audi does okay. I mean there were like five eighty one headlines in this league over the weekend since we just end with inter miami taking that ten pick. Let's just go straight to inter miami beckham. united. Chris henderson hired as the chief soccer officer and sporting director to get things back on track as far as their roster building recruiting scouting. Everything under the sun goes phil. Neville is the head coach. And that doesn't surprise a ton of people once that name was linked You know that. He has a really strong relationship with beckham. And from my point of view the last year you could sort of sense. A annoyance and frustration on just beckham's part but sort of ownership at inter miami with the state of things and that annoyance and frustration was really borne out. They let go of the alonzo. And of course. Paul mcdonagh's well on all of a sudden after your your one you've cleaned house and now they're bringing in the new reinforcements. I think chris anderson is of these two hires and mostly because to be honest with you. I don't know that much about phil neville other than the little bits that i picked up from his time with england women's national team. But i know chris anderson real well we know him while on this show we know from as history both as a player but now as a really really good front office guy. He did a lot of the scouting internationally. He did a lot of strategy alongside garth in seattle. That got them where they're at and you always saw the twitter pictures of like the today but he was all over the world scouting identifying this norway. What club your heart check type type type that to me. Is the settling higher. The like okay. We acknowledge that we got roster largely wrong strategically personnel wise. really from top to bottom. We gotta figure this thing out and have some stability and somebody that the maas brothers and beckham trust incomes. Chris henderson and then phil neville i. I don't know maybe you have more thoughts. On this day he feels like Beckham's friend and he feels like a guy who has an incredible career in the game. Who needed an opportunity. Just like this one and now has it. Yeah it feels risky. Because there's two things going on one is international coaches have struggled at times coming into mls and learning the game. And he is. He's only experience is at the national level so he needs to do two things he needs to learn the day-to-day day of being a club manager. And he needs to learn a league that he never played in has never lived. Here has never really lived And so it's dangerous from that point of view as signing for this. Inter miami team to your point chris henderson will bring that. Mls knowledge especially in roster building those pieces over the course of the next few years. And i see this as david beckham's going to be more involved more as the head of the sporting side and chris henderson underneath him is going to be that. Mls brain that you need for two guys in film. Evan david beckham who haven't been involved in. Mls as much over the last few years and never know so. It's dangerous but at the same time and we're going to talk about it with dc less in a weird situation where they sit manager wise because for some people. It's really attractive job for other people. It doesn't interest them. And so you're pulling from an odd pool opportunity. I think the biggest thing here is you've got to trust. You know the ownership group. Trust phil neville diego alonzo. Ever really had that. So you're hoping now more of a top down culture shift in what you wanna do who you want to be. And the belief from david beckham is that phil neville will fit into them when you said multiple years that The jive with me about chris anderson in the Inside because this isn't They could come out and be a playoff team next year. And maybe we wouldn't be surprised that they have some top town at that level but it does feel like given all the changes. They made that. This is going to be a multi year process to get close to the level that they said that they wanted to be at competitively and from an overall roster standpoint. I'm not talking about you know sahlene gonzalo wayne. He has potential scored twenty five goals next year but top to bottom building that roster and a sustainable way that can be competitive every year and makes a little bit more sense. I mean that's a big job for chris anderson and you also look at the roster you think well what are the tools and the resources available to him. Is he going to be able to use a dp spot or to. How much time does he have. How much of that is spent much of that is accounted for based on what they did in year one at some of the moves amid second transfer window to try to stabilize things so Any any thoughts on that doyle charlier or would just hit dc united in hunter asada. I just say that phil neville's rap coming out of the england women's job Was that he wasn't incredible tactician but he did a good job of culture building and getting individual players to sort of Improve and perform So given everything that i've heard out of miami. I don't think this roster is is bad. I think this roster has a potential to be pretty good I heard that the the locker room and the culture was broken last year. It was just never settled. It's always hard to get that done with any expansion team doing it in the midst of pandemic Doubly difficult so if he can come in and just get the culture right. There doesn't have to be a ton of bells and whistles. You know. make sure that you'd wines. Getting enough touches make sure that pizarro's positions to to influence the game. Make sure that. Morgan has one sideline probably the right wing all to himself. It doesn't it's not gonna take a lot to make this team look functional in attack defensively. It's a bigger question. I think that's where chris anderson is going to have to earn his money all right. We'll see inter miami A team that is just trying to figure themselves out here. But that's too big pieces in that process dc united. We talked about the rosser. Feel pretty good about it head coach. You're making a transition from been olsen and a decade of that. I don't think that we thought they were gonna do this. Though they go to belgium. Argentinian hernan masada as a young guy. He's beer shop for a while now. A plane for them. He was the manager. They went up and down in the belgium league. Promotion wise They have the third. Most goes goals scored in belgium right now in a negative for goal differential with the second most conceded so this is some chaos ball in the best way he definitely did the. We wanna play attacking vertical soccer in press conference. Which you know. Every that's like bingo. Every single new coach says that. But this feels and from the outside looking in. Because i don't know that much about her but feels like more more of an ambitious outside the box higher from dc united than i expected. I think that's fair. It's an exciting higher for them. This is a guy that from everything. I've seen and heard people in belgium upset that he's left like he brought a lot of energy to the league. They enjoyed watching his teams play and he probably had reached the limit with beer and what they could accomplish so he was looking for his next move. He speaks four languages. He's lived in a couple of different countries so he's learned the game a few different ways someone will mention be elsa and then everyone has to run and hit the button as fast as possible because we connect someone to be. Also you have to hire them immediately. But that's the school he comes from as you said and i think there's a lot of ways to look at this one is it's exciting for this franchise. I think to step outside of what they've always done and bring someone in from overseas who has different soccer ideas. Who's going to try and push the pace of play and be entertaining. The other part is from an immediate point of view. It really seems to fit the talent on the team. He wants to play a three five. Two you don't think so. They have one forward. They have a million wingers for short. But it's in flora's as a second forward playing inside is not crazy to think that's where he's most comfortable. They have to basically deep level right wingers. They can't play at the same time. Throw them wing backs. I think it fits their centreback build better. You're gonna play are what centreback built. I think that's in the back three. We saw that and burn bound struggled this year in a two and embryonic not an elite centreback. Put those three together. And they're all better at higher depth chart mets and in early one of the guys trap of those guys is is like an mos caliber star her. This point using you think donovan back his rookie year. He was fantastic for them over the course of ten fifteen games so i think that for them this year. They've got options in central midfield. So i think it fits the talent. They need a centre forward. They need a center forward anyway. Joel there's no formation you can play in which camara scores two goals in your good right. Now see are disappointed last year. But i think that was more down to the the midfield being an absolute trainwreck. Last season and that that was to me that was because they played everybody out of position for most of the season and they never got the guy any service and so now. We're like her. It could be a very very good coach in this league. As david said he was You know the create a lot of excitement in belgium. There are a lot of people who are disappointed that he is gone in that he is here. And i think dc should be happy but the weird thing about this higher is that dc's roster is geared in that includes their high profile and high upside academy kids. It's more geared towards a four to three one and he did not play for two three. He played a three five two. And you were talking about like ariella and gresley who both can play. Wing banks argue. It's probably both of their their best spot you can play one of them and inverted as a wingback like it's it's weird like it is a good that's where you're mila saad plays left wing back baby it's it creates it is interesting But it's it's a weird higher giving the composition of that roster charlie disagree. I like this now. We have a little bit of a varying varying take on this to explore throughout the year as the results. Come good. Charlie your thoughts. I do like this higher. I i liked this higher because it's different. It's outside the box and for dc united. They wanna go in a different direction with a coach who has a different philosophy than than what they've they've had. Ben olsen is is a great as a person he is. You know an as a competitor probably one of the best competitors that i've ever played with you need a coach who's dialed into different tactics. In men management and ben also. Wasn't ben awesome strength ben olsen strength was. We're going to go out there and fight fight fight and you like okay. Everyone goes out and fights like what's our tactical plan. How are we trying to play what where are strengths and weaknesses. What do you want from us. You didn't get that from ben awesome. You're hoping that's what you're going to get with this higher. And so i like it. I think that they're going to go out and and try and have a style a style. they're going to stick to it. They're going to try and play to the player strengths. Edison floors is the one player. You need to get going if you spent that much money. You're bringing in a coach who you think is going to get him to play at his potential. You're gonna get. Julian gristle to play at his potential. Those are two players. Who didn't you didn't really get much out of last year. I mean there were times. That joins look good but not many all kamar. Another blair who touched the ball. Maybe five times a match. You need to get more out of him. And that's you're supposed to be your star striker. And then you have. Young players like moses nyman and griffin. How can you get them to play at a at a next level can most an improving because he did show a little bit for being such a young player that he can play at this level and his potential is is high so i like this coaching to come in with a new identity. Try and get the most out of his players and see how far this dc nineteen can go who has more points in twenty twenty one inter miami or dc dc united. Oh wow yeah. I'm going to go to in dc united go in the other direction. Inter miami miami to all right. We'll see what happens. Jordan morris on loan to swansea city. Normally we would lead the show with a rumor of this magnitude feeling like it's turning into report that's feeling like probably that's gonna be what happens. Swansea cities in the championship their second in the championship right now. Four points back of the leaders and everything. Four points ahead of third jordan. Morris talked about after that. Mls cup in that process of like how he would think about europe and embiid still existed for him. He's twenty six he's had a great run with. Us national team obviously a great run with the sounders. This was probably the time if he was going to do this to test himself to see how it goes to maybe flip this either into a different move or go to the premier league swansea city. If all works out there were rumors. That tina wolfsburg and beyer leverkusen were also reportedly interested dwell. Swansea city jordan morris. A lot of people out there you know because it's the championship because you know we. We have these different expectations. Sometimes for players are sort of like Are you ha- or does this make sense to you assuming that it does happen now. This makes a ton of science. This is a high level championship team. That are pretty strong favorites to win promotion And being in that situation is way more appealing than being a bottom half of the table. Epl team that's just trying to survive playing boom ball defending deep not playing actual soccer. So i think that going to a team that is trying to get on the ball and You know playing aggressively and controlling most games. I think that really fits for for jordan morris Especially when the upside is okay. They you know if he plays well they get into the premier league and then they hit the number. There's gotta be a you know. A transfer fee probably agreed to between all the parties if jordan goes out and crushes it for them Little interesting tactically. Because there's another three five two team they don't play with wingers So he will presumably be playing as a second forward kind of stretching the field flaring out. But that's probably still even though he's been fantastic as a winger. That's probably still his role. Is that second forward. Go anywhere do whatever you want to find in create space type of role. So i i think it takes a lot of boxes for morris i. I'm sure that the sounders are of two minds about it because while it's great for them to potentially make it a lot of money off another homegrown transfer show that that pass from the sounders academy all the way to the premier league. It is not just intact but it is like it is very obvious at this point He's really he's going to be a really tough player to replace it even if he's only gone for half a season he's a really really tough player to replace But this is the business that they're in. It's becoming clearer by the year. Clear by the month really So it's you know it's a decision that you kind of have to make if you're running all but like five teams in the world are selling teams so it's a decision that once it gets put in your you know put on your desk you kinda have to just make sure the numbers are right and then you have to to make that decision charlie. You've made this decision where to go when the go wide ago when it comes to go into europe and also making moves within that structure just from that player perspective. Put on your jordan morris. Hat what do you see in this opportunity. I'm looking at maximising. My potential and everything. I've wanted to within major league. Soccer have won an mls cup. I've i've i've been in an organization that i grew up supporting. I got to be a part of a team that my dad is the teen doctor. So you did all. I think you accomplish everything you had hoped for within major league soccer with your with your hometown club. Seattle sounders inside. We all want art curious of just how far we can go. How far can i take my career. I know what all these players that. I'm playing with on national team or doing overseas now. I'm ready to take that chance now. I'm ready to take that opportunity in perform at the highest level on test myself against the best. If i want to be on the national team and i want world cup glory. I wanna be a part of the world cup. I wanna be in world cup qualifiers. I wanna be the mainstay in the starting eleven with the national team that i have to go overseas yup. Mb put in a position where i'm challenged every single day. Not not once a week or once a month every single day to be the best player that i can be and so when i look at swansea and you're looking at options. Where can i go. Where's the best situation. You're going to into a team. That is at the top of the table so second place in the english championship. Very difficult league where you have two strikers who playing in two striker system. So that's also appealing for me. Because i've been playing on the wing with seattle for a while because of our formation and now i get to be part of a to striker system which for him with his pace. He can hold up the ball. He can combine. He's already shown that he can play and has to try to striker system when he made his debut at the us. Men's national team at playing with with bobby wood and i remember seeing play against holland and germany looking. Good making the dummy runs. I think he's going to thrive in the situation. So andrea you and jamal love and the two strikers swazi. Jamal has nine goals. Zero asus. andre has to assist now under eight hundred hundred how you can also play as a number ten or withdrawn. So you have the ability to play up top now with jamal and andre. Are you underneath you. So there's gonna be up plenty of opportunities for jordan morris to play from the beginning and that's the only reason you're going to entertain this if you have probably heard from the head coach or the sporting director that you're going you're expected to play in. You're going to be given an opportunity now. Nothing is guaranteed as far. You're going to play every game the rest of the season. But you're going to be given the opportunity you're gonna be guaranteed an opportunity to go out there and thrive and i think with his skill set his belief and where the team is. It's a perfect marriage. And you're you're willing to take an opportunity to risk to go on loan to swansea city with the chance of promotion into english premier league which is the goal to be playing in the best league in the world every week. End up playing lita. Stop it so This this is a perfect opportunity. For jordan morris as well seattle and say. Hey you developed here. We're going to send you off. You helped us win some moss cups and we wish you the best. I think this is a no lose situation for seattle. This works out perfectly. He plays well. You sell them for a big number. He plays poorly. he's back before the playoffs. Start and it seattle. That's all they care about. There's a third weird window where he plays well and in like landon. Donovan realizes that he still wants to be in seattle. They also win one too so to me. This is a no law situation for seattle. He's hard to replace they. Probably if they think he's gonna leave full-time. We'll try and do it early if they don't then you kind of have to start to try and work the numbers through the year. They basically have no wingers right now. and his contract was fairly friendly. Although now off that homegrown deal last friendly than it was but But i think for seattle this makes all the sense in the world of doing it this way it makes sense for jordan to the no said he can always come back to seattle but you look at like the opportunity to be with an ambitious championship. Even if let's say swansea comes up. Just short jordan. Morris played really well and just because of the insanity promoting as well he will be in the premier league next season. Yep even your know. The championship happens happens. All the time you're expected to go doesn't it bt down it's forty eight games. I've just insanity. Yeah they. I mean reimbursed. Her was there on last year from liverpool when he got sold the sheffield united for twenty five million not two different players different situation. But you know the epa scouting. You know that you are in the shop window. You know that every performance that you have is being broken down. I hope this works out. Incredibly well for jordan morris. Jesse hope that watch another league. I gotta follow a non thing now. I mean my football teams so long. It's just every weekend. I'm waking up in the morning book. All right who's playing. What were the result. Who's in the lineup. Here's another one for you. Swansea city And jordan morris. And obviously i'm ben bear who's just big champa guys anyway. This just attribute move naturally champion guy. Let us settle sanders fans. How they'll replace him what they'll do if he's gone long term or short term for one zero six zero unless extra time and in west soccer dot com quick hits on random moves around the league before we get the mailbag get outta here l. Afc signed a new right back. Crean kim moon lawn is an irrational is a ton of caps sort of in his mid twenties. He seems excited seem excited about that. Probably tells you maybe what they think about the center back position may be trimmed. Blackman pushing inside Certainly the indiana har- Attempt did not work out for either party in that sense. Ellie galaxy signed. jonathan bond. Hasn't played a ton has a us passport so they won't have to use international spot but a goalkeeper. He needs an opportunity he goes to l. Afc we'll see if he gets the opportunity there. The dynamo win max rudy. They also tyler pasher from india. Eleven and montreal gone the other way. Got kiki strewn. A- this was a very middle table back and forth from these two sides. If you have thoughts chime in let me know really camacho last year. Who went in the other direction. I don't even know no. It wasn't was it rudy. I don't think it was really no was a cabrera. Victor cabrera so just move them around in that in that order. Fc dallas went out and signed left winger from venezuela on loan. Freddy vargas from deportivo lara. we'll see if that works out for the is around him though big chance. Creator scored some absurd goals. Twenty one years old again. It seems like dallas has no wing depth coming into the so. They're starting to load up and i have the option to buy december. He just signed a two year deal. Franco survey been winger. Maybe nyc afc for ten million td dono argentine. We'll see in orlando with him. I don't know yeah. So he was rumored to orlando week or two ago plus other. Mls teams and now it seems like nyc afc. Somebody's got a good agent andres race. It has done. He was inter miami last year. rebels making it official from august. You know they're bringing in the young centreback which then makes sense. I was reporting that. The rebels are listening to offers for tim which i feel like every window. Now that is reported that they're listening to offers for ten parker immune. It's been like three straight win. Those i think at this point with this finally the window it. It probably is. Because everything i've heard is that the rebels are are open for business like there is no player on that roster other than probably and clark who is who is safe Which is fine. You have new. You know you have a new manager coming in you have a sporting director who is kind of like still settling into the job a little bit and clearly wants to make moves so this is This is to be expected. I don't love the reassigning He granted last year was a tough year and he's a young kid But he did not look like an mos caliber centreback But you know the red bulls have a longer track record with this sort of thing than i do so as probably give them the benefit of the doubt now on the fcc for par. There isn't an mls team that it wouldn't make sense to get a starting american centreback. He's purely right-footed. I think that's the one thing that stands in the way with a lot of teams of if you already have a guy there maybe you're not gonna bring them in but fc cincinnati was the first woman that came out because again they need player in every single spot now sides that there is not an mls team managed and make a lot of sense for for san jose with the way the that almazo likes to play with guys crashing into each other like that. No i mean that feels like um his ability. Maybe makes a lot of sense for the ribs as well to play on the right side and henry on the that makes sense for me. Because you know. Bruce jenner loves depth. Not not bad option as well interesting to see under saying sounders trade for tim barker about. Everything's that's where yama plays. If he was on thing else. I would say the one. That's a weird. One that came in my head is if you're minnesota and you don't know about ike. You could be a way to give you a little bit of cover. But if it's healthy that's a lot of money. Tim parker got a really big deal. It's only for one year left. I think but that was the other part. I think of why he's available for new york because it gave him a huge deal after his first year when he played well to keep him and to kind of solidify that centreback spot. He hasn't played up to that contract. So it's not a easy flier for one year but if you want cover at that right centreback position would make sense before the mailbag charlie. I just got a tee up here. Lucas podolsky fc cincinnati. I mean he'd be big in the fast casual. seen the bring the bring the euros. he'll i mean he's the franchises he's been japan he's been to turkey. He's been england. I mean he needs another stop he needs another place to grow. The lucas podolsky brand is cincinnati. That's stop if you want to pay him. Absolute peanuts to come sure. why not. But he's turning thirty six in june. He has scored five goals in the past two years. So this isn't the lucas podolsky from arsenal or from germany in the world cup's where he had all those all that success in scoring loads goals. This is lucas podolsky. Probably playing on one like so well to be fair kinda of left leg previous to so now. He's playing on his right like okay so this is a assigning that brings a lot of hypertension had to be killed falco rumors to portland. Which was that was like. Performance are twitting to talk about that one but that would have gone on the list. Just offseason agent shenanigans. I'll be shocked if the dose is analysis coming. Oh you don't think. Jack welsh earns close to signing a contract with team named mls. I i i do not. I do actually believe. They'll asandra lopez ones. I don't know if you guys saw that. But there have been reports. Out of argentina linking sandra lopez to atlanta united los angeles lopez. Basically can't play anymore But he's gabriel heinze is guy And as a coach as a player player and he's yeah and he's coming over on a minimum contract as sort of like a locker room leader. I don't have a problem with that type. Assigning i really i really do. Not but it's it's not one that i one hundred percent expect to get done but that seems to have more sense in terms of how you build a team And in terms of the the monetary approach then a jack wilshere or lucas podolsky or a falco andrew. We might be available to play center forward for a few. Mls teams of los angeles of that contract. Do we think. Do you think i'm gonna locker room guy. I'm not so sure. I think it's going to be like the respect levels are just gonna drop through the floor here for a one zero six zero s extra time to dot com. You know how to get us. In the mailbag preussen honors has been in the comments which we do really need to get on the youtube but so you can see his stream of thought and consciousness that we forgot the producer honors reminder of the day we did not forget it. It's just that the super draft twenty percent by on thursday two pm eastern. The first round streamed on all the channels twitter. Facebook youtube dot com the muscle pluto. Tv grabbing from everywhere just flows right through me this That was more important. So here's the preussen. Honors reminder the day he says it's exciting time for us exports in europe none more so than the tiny brahima vich who scored this past week and help. Ac milan win again and keep their spot at. The top of the table is a lot of time that has twelve goals in eight league games. This season really nice to see that. Mls was able to revive the young forwards career after teams gave up on him. So i have two things off this one. There's gotta be a word count limit on preuss honors for his reminder of the day to this is doyle schtick not yours so let doyle have that led to have that shot all right on his under lifelong dream to be Other band congrats buddy. I think pretty excited because rumors that diego rose not diego. Sorry giuseppi rosie michael back to europe and mls could revive his career as well. And i know there's the biggest happy wrestling fan huge huge shot at the thomas the a c milan Fan who. I'm sure was trolling with that one Let's see we have a good tweet here. Go to says l. Galaxy of twenty eleven against columbus crew. Twenty twenty neutral venue times. Do the galaxy come out on top in ten games. Basically which is the better team. Who would you bet on. It's tough because you can't be the gal at the top of that galaxy lineup with with landon and robbie keane beckham in his second to last. Mls year. I think probably his best. Mls season The team was really really good. Gino omar gonzalez. Sean sean franklin. But they started leonardo at centerback They in the final. It was jane. Omar centrebacks are you. Sure i'm looking now. But they did start. Adam christmas forward which is so like it's just it's such a different era of mls 'cause like if it's a if you consider it a weak link game than the crew are strong favorites. But if you consider it like okay. We need our stars to make Can't bet against robbie keane and landon donovan the playoffs so it's a ten game series with plenty of rest between the games like it's it's probably coin flip because of those things over the course of mls regular season you need thirty guys to win to achieve a high level. I think modern teams are just so much better than even the great teams from ten years ago. Because it's it's more of a grind. There are fewer. I mean that twenty eleven galaxy team went into some games were that talent level difference between them and the team they were playing against was freaking. Massive You don't get that you don't get as much of that in this era the molest so i got. You saw that right in the most cup. he's gone. Pitra santos has gone because they bring in so in cup that galaxy team and twenty seven one. Substitution was to bring chris birch along because everyone else was berhalter in haiti in karachi. You're thirty nine four years old at that point and guys that they weren't gonna play where for columbus as you said to starters missing too deep and they were still able to win. Mls cups depth. I think is different. This galaxy team's probably the only one from this six seven year span. That would even be in this conversation. I don't think those houston teams are would i- ourselves fair. I don't think casey would than right. After i mean that team got close rate because remember they were missing a resell in that. Mls cup if they just under four. They just didn't have the attacking talent. You're looking nowadays. I would say for spine strong. But i don't know argue with folks hit us up keeping on just weekend. Kansas city adam. Casey proud so we're going with next. Yeah i got a little bit of love from casey. So i'll take that adam from college and says you didn't get love you got the opposite of now that's not true. I feel very conflicted writing this. On the one hand. I agree with goss when it comes to the super draft. The question wasn't what was the best player to come from the draft but rather the best fit the best. Pick pick that achieves higher-than-expected the pick itself is being judged. the player. His shell for outdoor was the best of the three. My shot would be two thousand third round picnic raimondo. Their round pick goes on to be arguably the greatest goalkeeper in history. He does hate though that. I hate on kansas city. Not only does he live in casey. He lives on the kansas side. i think. nyc is a nice city. There's nothing quite like case. I'll say this advocate because hold on hold on. It's the missouri side touch adam. Next time i got you come bring you bread for messenger. Cafe mass brand new america. Yna good thing on the missouri side. I guess yeah look calling. Nyc nice city. I've seen a lot of the feedback. Here where people like. Oh united and like come on. i'm sorry nyc is the best city in the world. Okay it pains me to have left eric sitting. Why me all right. What means something so silly. I'm really not getting anything else before we get out of here. Anything we to go through saying that i was right about the way i uh-huh picks and you guys the next one is matt ler lower picton chad marshall omar gonzalez a lot of the things you gave credit for to omar and chad. They didn't actually do on the team that pick them so he says map easier a longer term. Pick more successful the rebrand. All those things for candidate wasn't more successful. No than omar gonzalez like if. You're chad marshall or chad marshall it was a great pick but he wasn't martha special either. I marshall for columbus. Three marshall out of copyright two shields. If you wanna do like your rings culture that that's fair. But i thought you're not about that. I mean you're knicks max. Back names but if you if you take it off rings culture looted have more of a time with the national team but then again for for sure But i don't think that would be an argument of who did more for. The club are eastbound argument. Though for for omar. I i still think is that not only. Did he change the club in terms of what they were able to accomplish on the field but he also won multiple titles right. He was the best defender on. What is only two one of only two inaugural dynasties in history right and then guess. He got sold for seven figures. He checked every box that you want out of a draft pick. Okay let me close you guys on this one and we are done not mls related. What is the best rivalry in the world of soccer I'm having a hard time with this question right now. Because we don't get rivalries with the pomp and circumstance. We had rivalry. We didn't ask the best game and twenty twenty one january twenty. But that's what makes what makes revelries. What's the best rivalry in the world. I think it's pretty easy. What real madrid arson jerry. I was checking i mean. That's that's the obvious answer even though the air has gone out of it over the past eighteen months. But that's only in comparison to what it was for the previous fifteen years right. That has the that has to be the only the only other one that jumps to my mind just based on recent match ups and just i mean the history of it is is river in boca. I mean i think you go both into that into culture into like those are the sort of rivalries where it's not just your teams who you are. It's outside of soccer. it's what you represent as a person whether that be ethically or politically or background or upbringing and it's just it's like a part of your core. It's inextricable to who you are. There's outside of that. Everything that you do is through that same lens and that is just that so other worldly to have happened through sports and that's why we love those games in the special hit us up. What are you think they are. I was a little one. I thought you were going to give me a little bit of love. I mean oh see. That's that's either you go there. You go off. Flew also goes in there. It's the hardest soccer and the biggest rivalry as a charlie davis said big espy fan. Obviously the old firm darby. Well you know we have a new one though now Soon to be it. Sounds like portland maine against the new guy showers. That new england beef that you just can't get anywhere else. It's gonna get anywhere else charlie ally. pa's all pre-game so remember the result. Every new england style new england style. Thank you charlie for joining us. Remember the super superdome twenty twenty one presented by adidas on thursday two pm eastern. I won't run you through where you can watch it. You should know by now. Just go to amazon dot com. You can figure it out real quickly. I'm hosting doyle. Charlie on tuesday occurred during the interviews. We will give you the entire first round re back to grade it on friday. Enjoy your week. Everybody will see that.

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For real ... or playoff wannabes? Sorting teams after a wild week in MLS

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For real ... or playoff wannabes? Sorting teams after a wild week in MLS

"The time exactly. How i find out what's going on in the mls lost. Maybe this podcast isn't that is well everybody up here. Every single day goes into the amish into the laboratory. Try to up some great stuff to you guys From new york new york. You are listening to extra time driven by continental tire beneath a and t five p virtual studios. I'm andrew wavy with my single solitary top of the heap partner and soccer. Chalk do charlie davies. And it occurs to me charlie that neither of us are actually in new york. So i don't know if in this one case by intro fits but it's certainly wonderful to be back with you my man and wonderful back on the show. It's been a. It'll beautiful two weeks. It's been a tropical two weeks. It's been a hurricane two weeks. I'm exhausted somehow from vacation and yet here. We are into the middle of a playoff race and insane. Season a. c. c. l. campaign that just ended for the union and elitist cup campaign that drives on for the sounders. How you feel in my man. By the way thank you it's a tribute paul mariner What an amazing person. He was player person. Coach just could always left the room so he'll always be remembered in new england. I know in england as well but tribute to him and then got my nice kick childhood cancer scarf feeling good. I'm feeling right it. We're and we're getting into like playoff mode. That's what pumps me up right now. Yeah it's that time. Middle of september things are starting to clarify. What say what kind of team are you performances through twenty five twenty four and a half whatever it is at this point weeks basically tells us it is packed up. There are the elite teams. We know who they are used to us talking about them. You probably saying god. If i hear more about the reds or the sounders or llc afc sorry so you're not actually in that category anymore. Why did you do that. I'm sorry this is easy. It was easy. You're gonna go crazy so we're gonna try to hit some other things that we're gonna play a little real or not talking atlanta talking. Dc philly miami. Maybe i'll afc or the timbers depending on whose realist. Let's say we have golden boot leader by the way it comes from one of those teams. I hope you know his name. You should know his name ola kamara. We'll get into that. Atlanta are back. Are they ready to shift. Shake up this playoff race and of course seattle are going to this leads cup final. We have kellyanne row here to talk about the sounders team as well as his efforts. Outkick childhood cancer dot com on wednesday takeaways. Always a must read after these mid week games. It is so hard to keep up identify with that as well Greg seltzer has the eastern conference playoff games that will define the twenty twenty one almost cup. Playoffs and phil west has a piece on judge marinas. Almost two one hundred. Mls career goals. And we figure he'll be in the lineup this weekend as well on onto the would've shown zone and alive and free on twitter the first your biggest mid week result charlie. Take your pick man. There's a lot to choose from what's the one. That's the biggest in terms of playoffs and turns vibes in terms of just belief at this time of year. That's big the biggest. Mid week result for me was montreal impact winning on the road. Old habits die hard man. I thought i was the only one against orlando city. I think for me. That was such a pivotal moment for macho impact to say a playoff team. We have to win games like this. On the road we spent most of last year in orlando and to go there. And i know noni led his team down getting that you know two yellow cards in the first half being sent off but for montreal that mentality i think what wolford nancy has done this year given the fact that teary unreal left just before the season starts done. This isn't for me. i can't see my family. You know. Still still with the covert protocols with montreal. There's a lot of uncertainties to get this team together to believe and actually play quality soccer throughout the year. I mean that's that's really impressive. In romell kyoto i think is still undervalued underrated in this league when he is motivated and fit. He is a problem he he's going to give any defender a- problem because you so strong good finisher at times always causing problems. So i think montreal. They're for real. They showed little sign here and they needed to show a sign to. It's been better for them after bad. Five game stretch sort of in the middle of of the summer. The late summer here got a win against the red bulls. That was a home. They needed that. But then they drew away to fc. Cincinnati and a way to the union given where all those teams are in the standings. Yeah their away games but those are a little bit of missed opportunities and then to win at home and then come back and win away against orlando that gets them back in the hunt got two more coming up that they need to win their home to the fire on sunday. Gotta win that half. You're a playoff team when you win that game period and then they're away to the crew that next saturday so they got rest. They have opportunities against teams in the standings below them. Got to win those games but this was a huge one to set them up. I absolutely agree and ninety definitely who was it for you. i'm gonna leave scope. How could i not tuesday. Night intoxicating game charlie intoxicating tournament. It's everything we could have ever wanted like. I don't understand people who are like this is too much for me. I get the players the coaches if they wanna say that and we've talked about that ad nauseam on this show. They're the ones actually happening to do it. But if you are fan if you're somebody who just wants to watch good soccer enjoy it and you can't enjoy tuesday night's game sanders and santos. You don't actually like. I don't i don't know that you actually like the sport like you're getting involved in this for other reasons. You're getting to getting too complicated for you to really good teams playing first choice. Line-ups playing at a high level throwing punches back and forth for ninety minutes a late winner by railroad. The as we know is illegal x. Killer he understands it to put the sounders in a final the league's cup final. Now we know against leone which i'm super happy about if it was puma us in the state they're in that would've taken some of the shine off. I just don't know how anybody as a consumer of this game or as somebody who just straight up enjoys it. I'm just a fan of the game. I don't have a team. I just wanna watch good. Soccer wouldn't have enjoyed that game on tuesday night and get them to a final just same old. Same old for the sounders shrug. Ho-hum you heard branch through like this is not this is not. Mls his story as much as sometimes as a league. We like to claim these things. This is the seattle sounders story. The seattle sounders handle business when businesses to be handled. They go to finals. Were back again. This is what we do. Oh by the way. We're still in the shield race. Even though some people will dismiss that damn scher the cup rates. So look i. I loved that night i was also disappointed of course by phillies Bowing out against america but that was sort of expected in a lot of ways given the unions form america's form but that was my biggest result every single time can beat league mexican competitive game. That's a good result. That's a big deal and this was a big one as well next wednesday. Las vegas leon. Sanders got final. We'll have live shows around that twitter spaces and then we'll be live on on the almost channels. We are for usa and other games after the fact Let's do what. Charlie let's play real or not. You wanna play. Let's play all right Let's start with atlanta united so fc. Cincinnati comes to town. Charlie what should you do. Pylon the goals like not only win pile on the goal confidence booster baby like who are these guys. I think i got this. Let me get my first goal. Justin martinez again. Me to ezekiel barco. Yeah okay we're all going to get one in this that'll work of work just fine Big statement for atlanta. Not just this game but their last seven games really six out of seven are they for real in your mind and this week and they've got a big one saturday national. Tv three thirty pm eastern. I believe it's shown to the twitter. Dc united who were actually above them in the standings it this one is a the probably the biggest match. They beat these united on the road to one and they've won three of the last four. They lost nashville at home to know so we can't forget that loss. That was a big loss. I think telling loss as well because nashville are for real. You know they yes. They were a team that really. I think understood. Defend i unless think about attacking scoring goals of different ways. Set pieces counterattacks now. They've developed into a team that can hurt you in so many different ways but this game at home versus united both teams really looking to get into play offs and get on that run that magical run that all teams hope for heading into the playoffs. September is the month. September is a month you get. Your horses fit healthy in rate ago. Note there's no changing of ideas you understand your culture your philosophy and everyone's bought in if you don't have that buttoned up come september. You can kiss that postseason goodbye. Is the button fastened for atlanta. Are they for real charlie. That's the question. Do you believe in the five stripes. I believe they get into playoffs. I okay. That's that's what i'm going to give them and that's okay already already said before we be if they got to eighth place and they dig into the playoffs. That would be a success for where they were. They a playoff team. They have the players but it was. It was never about the players always about the coaching with this team. In citing the right players for this team that's what it was always about. Never about the the players they have the town. They've always had the talent but has never been put out the right way to make sure you're getting the most out of each player each position. I think rob valentino. Got them point in the right direction. And then you bring in gonzalo pineda who i think has always been someone who's understood how to get results in this league especially with all of his work done at seattle sounders as assistant coach. I think they get it done. I think they get into playoffs and they have five home games. That is important. Five home games three away. This probably one of the biggest playing against because that's going to dictate the pressure for those remaining matches six points nuts cliche but that is what is at stake here for both these teams. It's a chance to flip flop with each other in the standings which they could do dc thirty four land on thirty three if atlanta win. And let's say they get some good results from new york city dropping points etc. They could jump all the way up. Potentially into that top four east would take some help. We'll take some now but they could do it. How about this. For real ezekiel barco. This ezekiel barco. he's real. I've i've always thought ezekiel barcodes. For real this is a player who can dribble players. He's creative can bang. Long range goals he can combined is good on the ball just needs to be higher up. The pitch needs to be a surrounded by the right players in put in a position to succeed. They know he's talented. I think the only problem with him was the off the field issues so he's focused on the pitch in in the right spot. You're going to get the best version of zico barco. We've seen it throughout his diamond. I'm there's been moments where you're like. Whoa this player is capable of a real magic. At times i think with that mindset in in with gonzalvo. Nato and rob valentino. They're going to get the most out of him. And which is going to be which means success for atlanta tonight. I mean i'm like i'm not gonna go guarantee that he gets the double digits twenty like a couple years ago assists and goals but if he stays which. I don't know that that's a guarantee we talked to cardinals on our power rankings. Show on tuesday right he. He may how he could get that this year with playoffs. He's at six and five right now and he's just looking like a different player mentally physically with the final product and loose araujo. Looks like a game changer. As well i'm gonna be on your side. I'm gonna step further atlanta united for real just getting justice martinez back. You now have sort of a back line. In midfield that feels pretty settled when it hadn't prior to this I think they've got some real potential in it. I would not put it past Help lead a big second half surge here that drives them up the table one into the playoffs but to help make some noise in the plants because the talent wise you said it there above and beyond most teams in the league. We always knew that now. It seems like they finally have the cohesion they need. How about the other side. Dc are they for real. And how real are they. Do you believe in this in the same right here. Sitting sort of on that bubble right now in the eastern conference miami philly chasing them montreal atlanta right behind him. I think they get into playoffs. I don't think they're for real. They have six home games and a dichotomy. This this is. This is my understanding and seeing them up. Close their miss. They're missing a couple of pieces. I think defensively. They struggle the back line because they are so aggressive. And ending a har- one player that i think hurt on lozada really changed ease back to like looking like any bihar at onder left when he was beaten teams and now in a deeper position as as a right wing back he can influence games in a in. A variety of different ways combining dribbling. Players won't be one he's aggressive. He can finish. But i still think centrally. Both defensively defensive midfield position and the backs not convincing enough for me that they're gonna be one of those teams that we're looking at in. The playoffs is going to make a deep run so all kamara scoring goals. Kind of doing what he's supposed to do. But not in the same breath as some of these other top goalscorers in major league soccer. Come on now come on early claim breath really breath. The man is leading the golden boot race. He has sixteen goals from a goal score. You want them to score. He's the golden boot leader. What do you want from him. Like how can you ask for more when when we talk about golden boot leaders in previous seasons. Tell me what separates a golden boot leader now from those golden boot leaders of the past who are mvp candidates. Not all of them. Were not all of them are most of them. Were in the conversation if not all of them. Why okay how about this. Why shouldn't ola kamara being the conversation at least in the conversation. How could you exclude him because one he doesn't do enough for me to warrant. Mvp conversation as in his presence within the game. Yes he's scoring goals but the build up the hold up creating opportunities for other players all the other facets of the game. That's missing for me from him and to look were. Dc is their fifth in the eastern conference that have thirty four points level with montreal. Sixth you kept from me being the mvp conversation unless you are moving mountains if he was on pace to break mls goalscoring record which will probably move dc higher of the table. You can't put him in the conversation as the the mvp so okay. That's out because we just celebrate all kamara. He deserves it right. Yeah he deserves it striker at heart. Come on yeah. This is incredible. I'm with you sort of in a middle ground for me. I think that's a playoff team. I think what they've proven over especially the last three or four months or so. Is that what her non masada planted. Let's say in. The preseason came to fruition and their ability to use their depth to use their collective to us tactics that i think Are on sort of. you know. We've talked about it before they're pressing harder and better than anybody else in the lease. All of those things to me is exactly what. Dc needed from this season. they needed to turn the page. From the ben olsen years and needed something different than needed fresh ideas they needed a collective that outperformed maybe the talent level. And i think that they're there and they can go even further to. They've got a lot of talent coming back. We've talked over but how many players they've used is get the horses ready. Get him fit. This is september or maybe they're finally there and we're about to find out. This is a big one saturday. Atlanta dc three thirty pm eastern on the and twitter huge game on saturday. Big playoff implications. We're gonna learn about both these teams. How about this one for real or not for real philadelphia union. Oh boy outside. The playoffs in ninth one point behind atlanta in seventh. But the form says something a little bit different about these teams are going now out of cock-up champions like are they for real what's going on with the union. The union it comes down to a number of things one. It's replacing brennan aaronson they. They haven't they've had trouble finding out. Who's going to be a ten when you're playing with two strikers and sergio santos who's currently injured and a big part of them scoring goals because he's so different than casper shogo so you had that presence corey burke fills in but cory burke lacks a lot of the technical ability technical skills an ability to offset casper. Should go to us. Because surges santos's really one of those who gets in between the lines always looking to play off the defenders back shoulder get into space create openings underneath for the philadelphia union attackers. And then i think daniel god's another player who we probably haven't seen the most of anthony fontana who i thought was on on this. I think trajectory to be the next. Ten skyrocket skyrocketed. He's off that skyrocket. They have not trusted him to be the next guy. So i think it's a number of issues for the philadelphia union but they have five home games in six games coming into this this last stretch there at home against cincy at new york city of for the last three games of the season they have to. They have to start winning. They really do. Need to get going. And i have a lot of questions for them. I don't think they're going to have what it takes to really make a push for an mls cup. This year. Four pm eastern sunday union host orlando city who shot themselves in the foot. Always as we said against montreal club de montreal by the way just in case we didn't correct folks. I'm still making the impact mistake even like eight months later. We'll fix this one day. This games on espn. I'm curious charlie. What you think or see about the future of the union because the big question for this year in mauling up a supporter shield season was whether or not that was sustainable. Or if they were going to be in for a sort of yoyo existence when say yo you i mean they will have really good years and then they'll have years that are a little bit like this where they struggled to replace the guys that got sold because we know what they'd like to do they would like to sell young homegrown players. They would like to develop players. Maybe not homegrown. Maybe it's a chi- wagner alvian Imbizo or whoever it might be and that's a delicate dance right. Delegate you gotta get your other signings right you have to have all those players around them sort of your core right. Those players have to stay healthy as they age and support and help more young players. Come through win. Young players come through more likely than not free to maintain that level. They've got a hit quick and that's not always the case with young players. Is this the is this the immediate future of the union and no shame in that of like being at the at the top or near it and then sort of having a little dip and then working their way back and then having a little dip well you have to centerpieces when it comes to like pushing the the tempo with this group right you have algebra. Who's a veteran leader. He's always going to expect the team to best and compete to win. He's an ultimate competitor. And you have. andre blake. One of the best goalkeepers in major league soccer you have those two players right. I think martinez has been a great signing for them and in defensive midfield position but sometimes he's a wildcard loses his temper. I think that is one of those players that has to grow into becoming one of the top midfielders in the league but they have two home games right now. Back to back you got orlando and you've got atlanta if they win their two games in hand right now. They're at thirty seven points in there fourth place and now all of a sudden it's like whoa pump the brakes don't be so concerned with us right now. We're we're just in the cauca. Caf champions league semifinals were were fourth in the east. Were okay so i think right now. It's about getting their players healthy in trying to make that push. But i think they're still a player away from getting into the championship and they're always going to have that yoyo of like developing these young players all of a sudden they perform. Then you sell them and you're back to square one. So it's it's about making sure that you're making the right signings. Who can come in for the players that are being developed under the club who can pick up the slack and that would be a player. Like guys dag who comes in as an attacking midfielder and can all of a sudden pick up the slack that was left when aaron errands and left for for rb salzburg. He's gotta go on three assists in about seven hundred sixty minutes but if you look at this union team and you look at the series against medica and you wonder what's missing casper. Chevelle goes six goals to assist seventeen hundred minutes. Corey burke four goals one assist in eight hundred seventy minutes On those forego one assist in just over a thousand fifty minutes. That's your three best goalscorers. Such attacking players. Having fourteen goals on the season they would not lead the golden boot race combined. Ola kamara has two more. Ricardo peppy almost matching. These guys rodriguez. He's got as many goals as they do. You gotta figure out how to score. Goals agreed they don't do that. They're gonna stable of the playoff line right now. They wanna be for real for me. Charlie but right now. They're enough room where i'm not. Yeah i mean when you're saying real. I think they get into the maintenance. I mean the true threat right now. Would you right now. I'll put you on the spot. Do you think philly will make the playoffs. i do. i think philadelphia. Make the place okay. We'll see what happens here. I would not be as confident as you. And i bet real or now for real inter miami. They got a friday night match up against the rebels seven. Pm eastern s. One fox support this. I believe that at one point this mid week. I don't know things move fast in this league. Standings are moving even faster than that. Probably sometime after that tuesday night win in toronto one. Oh look a ball crossed. The line didn't get counted. We know that you can hear more about that. On instant replay got a late penalty. One nothing hey. They up the fifth place. I'm pretty sure well. They're not in fifth place anymore. Because other results compounded on them but they are right on the edge of the playoffs. Inter miami this is the same inter miami team charlie. I'm pretty sure that. I sat on this podcast. At that moment. I still agree with my take and said it was the worst expansion build of all time or one of. I can't remember if i went on. It's not a top in cincinnati. That's fair they're not even in the for real real conversation. Yeah are inter miami for real for you know. They're not in the reason. Why i say that is because yes. They're six games. Unbeaten with five wins and a draw but of those winds to against toronto. Fc that that that says a lot yep one against cincinnati burn yup speaks for itself one against chicago up and the trend and one against the crew who are not the same. Do and and the draw was you know. I wanna say inner miami. They learned a lot from that five zero shellacking they took from the new england revolution at home and they have because the performances have no doubt improved but they are not good enough. There are good enough. And i think we'll see that. Come the end of the season when they have to. They play new york red bulls at home and then nashville at home. And it's a way atlanta away at portland away at rebels and away at crewe. Those four away games back to back to back to back. I think it's gonna be very difficult for this into miami team to stay afloat in in. Continue the form that they're on but if they can win away or points away against the red bulls in the crew. Both those are possibilities real ones your home against toronto than home against fc cincinnati before a final three game stretch against like it's atlanta it's nyc of and the reps. So if they want to have a chance if they wanna be for real if they want to make it to to two years and you can quibble about last year's playoff berth. All you want i. I'd be open to that. They got a be in position at the end of those four road games to win the next two home games have a little bit of breathing. Room 'cause breathing room might not last. I'm with you not for real right now. Still a lot more convincing to do for miami. They have the rebels at home on friday night for them. That's a must win seven. Pm eastern s one box support as winners of five of their last six are inner miami. And that's the thing about going on vacation. Charlie in this league i laughed and inter miami. We're still just not worth talking about. Really and i come back and here they are and they're a big top big talking point. So that's how that's quick things change. How about this more for real l. Afc or the timbers. They're going to match up on sunday on f s. One six point cliche. We we there's a siren for you. This one is though. I mean they're right there with each other in the western conference and the western conference bubble is pretty significant. You go from portland at thirty four and v. All the way really. I would argue down to san jose at twenty seven points in eleventh and just figure that entire area could get shaken up over the course of the last two months of the season. So who's more for real in your mind l. Afc who wanted austin or the portland timbers. Were coming off this incredible stretch of road games now have their. Mvp back in. sebastian bronco. I'm going to go with the portland. Timbers are for real right now more for real are more for real more for okay. More real because of of how they've had to change and adapt due to injuries trades. And you're getting sebastian block. Who is arguably one of the best midfielders in this league back healthy and fit and inform. And you still have players who can come off the bench. Diego valeri and changed the game. Right so i think when you're looking at the complete package. I'm gonna trust in portland because of how they're built defensively as well over elliott. There's just too many question marks l. Afc too many question marks great signing with arango he might be the root signing if they make the playoffs. He might be the newcomer of the year. I was going through award yesterday for calm. It's up on the site right now. It's basically if you had to choose one player to back from each team or coach or whatever. It is the one of an individual award who would be in for them. It would be outside of maybe seafood for young player of the year though. He has no chance of win that it'd be a random for newcomer. Newcomer is dire this year. Charlie there are not a ton of guys that you pick out of the pack and just say yeah. That's the one having five goals in what five starts have see if he helps get them to the playoffs. He would have a really credible case for that. That is a good signing. it's a win. Here's a number for your four numbers. I should san sebastian blanco. Sixty five eighty three eighty to ninety plus. Those are the minutes in the last four games all of which he started for the portland timbers and if we're talking about the comparison between these two teams. I think it's pretty clear coming back to draw colorado down. A man is a more impressive result. Right now been going to austin and winning one thousand percent and getting three straight wins on the road at seattle houston in vancouver. That is also to not to be you know for for us. We have to build up a team that goes on the on the road to win three straight consecutive games and then comes home down a man against colorado who also is one of the top teams in the league Who has i think. Robin fraser has done a tremendous job. There in doesn't get enough credit. I think at this point but portland. They're coming into their own. And we always see portland. Come september start to start playing some some proper football and shape the organization and can't can't give them enough credit. You counterattack proper football in your mind. Hey i'm just kidding does get the job done. Yeah seems like every time they settle back on it like oh wait why why did we go away in the first place get ambitious. Wanna do more. Sometimes it works out sometimes. It doesn't but we know what works for g-o-v orissa seems like he's starting to find that. In the right time. I would agree with you timbers. More for real l. afc. I'm not gonna sit fool's gold but I would say that l. Afc's there there's a lot of sparkle there But there is some real dullness. Once you start to look at and regan deeper with their tendency to give up goals and bad goals along with you timbers but there's a huge game f s one. Fox support sunday seven thirty. Pm eastern Having fun so far hitting a lot of teams. What's more raw salt lake. I hope you folks out there smashed. Espn plus for the san jose game. You had trophies out there with like an absurd hat trick and we had people hitting up in the mailbox seemingly hit us up and said how many times it almost history as a player scored a hattrick in loss will trophies gets to find out whether he's part of that i'm not sure the exact trivia there but i mean it was. His goals were sick and in our assault kind of with their season on the line. That's where it's going to be the rest of the way. Get two late goals. Rubio rabin justin. Miriam comeback win four three. Move up to six in the west. They're doing all this. After freddie whereas walked away to go to be with the seattle sounders and naturally the rumors are starting to get floated about landon donovan. Terrell salt lake as the next manager. That is interesting. It is interesting. But if i'm laying donovan that's probably not the job i wanna take okay. Let's let's just talk through. If it was a job that you wanna take okay or the situation with land and right. Now lennon's god his loyal team second the west and the uso and thirty four point so fifty six and the overall us shield standings having a good season again. He's got a legacy building. You saw that last year. In the way he treats his players in the way he treats the fans and the way he treats the issues that surround the game and yet life and are bigger than the game. You see his leadership in those moments. You know he helped build club from the ground up. Does he wanna san diego oil coach forever. No probably not no. He does not. Let's say i'm just throwing out. The scenario is an alternate universe that may or may not come to be a real one. Let's say our acelle gets just a rock steady ownership group out there local ownership and team. They've already got sort of a good pipeline going with the academy. They've got They've got good facilities. It's a pretty good flight to southern california which is which is probably important. Do you think there's a scenario in which they could attract landon donovan. You remember all those remember back in the day land is gonna come to rico. He's gonna play your didn't happen but he'd already entertained. The idea of living in utah. Could it happen anything's possible. Yeah that's a good point. Anything if they throw the plenty of bags and kevin garnett anything is possible he. He's i mean yes if they throw enough of Enough money and enough of an incentive to join a project like salt lake's then yeah of course it could happen. He's he's coaching uso. So it's it's a major step up. But if i were landon donovan would wait for the perfect opportunity to kind of fall fall my way and so when you're looking at other teams that could potentially go in a different direction. You're looking at the teams who are struggling this year. San jose earthquakes for me. If i'm landon donovan. Having played in had success in san. Jose will make a whole lot of sense if they said we're going to go in a different direction and we're going to open this job up in landon donovan. Who is who. We're gonna target that for me. Seems really appealing to let him. Because he's been there. He loves california. He knows the area. That's that's going to be important for. Land is where he is. Where will his family be. Comfortable in that area will he becomes bonar because it's both on and off the field as a coach. The project the ability to connect with the community. All of that has to be taken into account and i think he would find probably the most happiness being in san jose with his family and the job Knowing that if that was ever a possibility that would be extremely attractive for players like landon. Donovan coach afam salt lake. I might look i. We would have to find the ownership group. i right. that's still sort of elephant in the room. Here landed automobile. A hell of a first hire would be an incredible higher. Would be a statement of intent and i think if san jose where to do that or whatever team it would go the same way you just wonder what land would need what he would want if he wants to leave san diego from. Mls opportunity be very interesting to find out. It was very very interesting. We shall see but you know for real salt lake. Congratulations to them. Just started keeping it alive. Props all those guys for fighting through. It has been an incredibly difficult two years for that entire club being to go through what they went through last year on the coaching side. The ownership side than this year to have their coach essentially say. Hey i'm i'm going a different direction here because picking up the pieces six in the west pretty darn good all things considered what producer bruce and honors reminder. The day tells you something about those early oursel- teams were so good and why these seattle teams are so good garth. Largo seattle's headed to another final. Charlie tried to hype it up off the front. We'll talking on robot in just a second. You know i'm a big leagues cup guy. You know. I believe this is only getting bigger. You know. I believe in in the quality of play on display. I'm starting to believe more. Mls his chance to compete particular teams at the top of the table and the top echelon which the seattle sounders obviously our before we get to cowan. What do you make of this leads. Cup final appearance for the sounders. How much does this matter. What does it say about this club for the club. -cause whatever competition there and they want to win no matter who they're playing against and i give a ton of credit because all the emphasis really is put on mls cup. Let's be honest. All teams really are going for. That is the one trophy that everyone has their eye on. Yes carbon caf champions would be nice to be the first club to win that. In plano a club world cup phenomenal but mos is the ultimate trophy. Then the supporters shield. That gives you credibility. Because you've done it consistently throughout the year and seattle sounders love to win that trophy as well and they make sure they they go out. Every dan they got one truck got one. I think every year you can consistently say seattle brings it. They'll always be sniffing around. Yeah they'll be sniffing around later there. There are consistent team that you know you. Okay there's apparent couple of seasons where you're like. Wow what the hell was that. But then they come in sounds of them clearly. It's always been less than it's been a shield as a second and we've been has been a great bonus for them and that's leads help would be as well but i think they're in a position to prove something not just to the rest of our league to mls but also league max to the region. The quality of their project is over the course of time. I'm not sure there's any club. In league. amax oriented molasses that could boast a similar level of regular season consistency as well as trophy winning. Maybe two years. Maybe but then there's yeah and in the regular season sometimes you know the way league. Max works in the ups and downs. Get into that final. They've made runs from lower positions in the playoffs. I dunno somebody will. Somebody will fact. Check me on that but to me. This is just another marker in sort of this incredible legacy for our entire ownership group for garth lager way for sigi onto tobriand like every player. That's been a part of it. You know i. I know that on monday. They wax poetic about the ribs and we should also be waxing poetic about the sounders and not just because of lead scout because of everything that they do. But i go back and look and try to find a significant misstep from this team in the last five years. You're not gonna find one. There's not many and if there were missteps they were quickly corrected or they were missteps. It could be recovered from. They're not giving five-year dp deals to scrubs. They're giving him the players. That are the best at fill in the blank in the league. The best player. niccolo daryl. The best goal score rudy the best defensive midfielder joao paulo. I mean they just don't waste roster spots. And i look at this team and and we're gonna talk to killing a second. Kellen is a guy like that. They're getting the best from cowan row. They're getting the absolute best from jimmy. Miranda who they picked up on trade from kansas city. They've been getting the absolute best of will bruin. Fredy montero is a frigging game changer. Like the dude is what he's doing for. This team is incredible. You wonder why. The whitecaps couldn't get a little bit more of that out of him his ability to create his intensity his leadership. You feel at all when you all do this roster shane o'neill a lot of people gave up on shane. O'neill they've gone to deepen their goalkeeper position. Alex role don's become one of the best players in the entire region at his position. To cristian. roldan has lots of single one game this entire year. What an a new. I mean another player. Who was kind of like you know he has pace strong gets up and down makes them tackles also kind of a wild card this year. Not wild no consistent someone you can depend on. He looks like composed as well knows what to do how to get under your skin but not pushing the envelope too much. Yeah jomar hit on your tam centreback. Yeah a lot of center out there. The teams didn't hit on nicholas. Been say he was a nothing burger for like the last year and a half he was nothing and now he's playing a significant role for one of the best teams in the league. There were question marks he is. He is an absolute horse. I love watching him play. Also love the fact that anytime you take somebody down. he's deliver. Have you seen the shoulder. Charges he hits people with after the play and a smiles and just like. I don't know how to it's like. It's i'm here vibes like i'm here to hit you. I'm going to be here to hit you. You're not gonna escape from me. And i'm going to show you i enjoy it. The whole damn team is just so much fun to watch man nights again. I i heard. I heard the guys wax poetic on the rams and i i just was applauding. The whole thing like wind teams. Are this good when projects are this well developed and thought out we should not hesitate to just absolutely layer on the price and that's what they deserve all right. Let's talk to cowan row. He's got more on the sounders today. T. five g. call to the field to seattle. We go the hometown boy kellan row leagues leagues cup. Finalists callan in your career. Have you ever been so honored. I think i've been to one final before. Charlie was there just this incredible six months in and i'm in a final perfect. That's the seattle sounders lifestyle. Man get used to it. You come to the club. It's like one final year. That's honestly that's a slow does not that good ask the role. Don's they know. God don't do too. I know you've been talking about it. And it was as almost as if it were a dream to play for your home town club. I got the chance to do it. I mean it was. It just brings a new perspective and new feeling when you're playing professionally. What has it been like for you to finally play. Because we've i know we've always joked about it with you but to finally play for the seattle sounders. You have always had this admiring of people that do play their hometown club in scotland a time when i was doing. Scott colwell chris tierney Guys that have grown up and and and you see them kind of go. Full circle may families but the coaches that helped him get their friends. They had that may never have gone to their club games. Because it wasn't a high school game you know they got to see you play in person and realize that although sacrifices you may growing up were for a bigger picture and it all came full circle and so the fact that i was able to finally get that ashton incredible feeling man and every time you get to play and even on the road i know that the my my friends and family are walking watching back back at home. I've had people go to the bars and have have watched parties. And that's that's really cool to see because he didn't quite get that in new england from this family that i had. I had that new england family. I didn't have the you know. Not quite that that loud there And so i. I realized that is such an incredible thing. I want every player to be able to do this because it is something that in your career. That is just steps above anything else. Pinch yourself when you're like. I'm going home because you have the tattoo you had the history you had the family you had it all. We were just waiting. Like what was the moment like when you knew when you could go to your parents go to your friends. Go to your family and say i'm coming home. Know i think it was. It was I didn't hide it very well for my phone very well. I'm not good at that But it's kind of been in the works for a few years. I knew it was gonna come about at at some time soup I didn't know it was going to be this year. I was hoping it would And for me it was. I was pure bliss. I mean when. I told my folks i said i attempted to surprise him but i knew i didn't. I was actually in new england at the time And i face timed and kinda group chatted my whole family and told everyone pop the bottle of champagne and everyone was happy. You got to work with alex caufield. I remember when you came to train with us at twenty seven. Now you get alex. Caulfield was seattle. What has he treated you right house. He changed now. He's great man he's actually tore his bicep. Or something like founders. By the way this is cooked this touched weight and He's been great. Obviously 'cause we had that kind of connection training in in dc. I still remember that week. That was i was like the hottest week in dc my first training with the mls team. I was there for a whole week. I chuck just ragged on me everyday. Yeah first thing. He did was the outfit. Yeah i'm sorry man. I i put you on the right path. This man would come in and he would grade my outfits every day. And i think i only had one a and it was like a full suit. They were sharp and was tight. So look you still remember them. Yeah you still remember that eggs exactly the value there of those grades. That's keep him in high esteem in that sense. Tell us about your role for the sounders team. I tell us about the league's club man. I don't wanna skip over this. We're we're trying to build this. I'm trying to build this. Because i think it has huge potential. I love watching. Mls against legal mexicans in particular. I love watching games like the one we saw on tuesday where it's two teams that are evenly matched talent wise tactically in terms of desire. And then i can't help a love when rhodesia's puts them down on the coffin. Since you guys on how are you guys thinking about leads cup. How do you think about leagues cup. I think the christian said it best that we this club. The sounders is used to getting to finals were there for trophies and the opportunity that we had it was three or four game opportunity to get a trophy. So let's make sure we put everything we have into these games To to make sure that in this season we can find at least a one or two three opportunities to find a trophy and we put ourselves in a position to do so. So it's it's very important to us not only to us as a team But for us to give back to the fans as well obviously. It wasn't a amazing time for the fans last year. They could really come to watch us. Play it was. It was a hard time. They had always had be home and we had to play in front of an empty stadium which is not our favorite thing so the fact that we are able to find a way to give back already halfway through the season i think. That's that's incredible instantly. We want to. Let's let's go over your journey to seattle as as a player in positionally. I think more importantly now feels like you've found your footing with the seattle sounders in the central midfield but an attacking player with us with the revolution score. These goals. you drop these bombs from deep and then you kind of move onto salt lake and sporting kansas city. Those things don't work. You come back to the ravs and i thought last year you had some really great performances in that deeper midfield role. Now you get moved on again to seattle and you find a way to not only play be on the field but make an impact. How is that kind of was that journey been like both mentally and physically in. What has allowed you to have success with the seattle sounders. Now i think the the the reason for success kind of mindset of you know like what position. I don't have a position. I've got five positions on the field now Which means i'm going to be on the field and that's my mindset and you were there in new england. The time when i was in one game play three positions. I'd play the ten six and then all of sudden play left-back and it's it's just a mindset that no matter what i'm on the field that means i'm going to have to make an impact wherever i am and it also helps me mentally In soccer brain. Kinda just okay. I have to learn these different areas. And once i did go that leftback right back position. I learned how to really defend not. Just be a gum number ten. That's not defending and kind of just wants to score a goal. So i when i moved into that six position last year. Especially with new england with bruce. I knew my role was to win the ball. Pass it to to gustavo and carlos like it wasn't it wasn't like there was you know i want you to make the game every time. He touched the ball absolutely not. That wasn't my role it was it was to win the ball and make sure that the guys in front of me the guys who are the creators of the team. Get the ball. And i've kind of put that into this year as well. Can i find a way to do more running or or a little bit more so job. Paolo the guy who was unreal on the ball can find more chances to put the ball in the box or get a little bit more forward. Can i make it easier on the defenders or the outside wingbacks who are pushing forward every time they can to cover for them and make sure that they are still in the attack and not have to worry about defending as much so it's just about finding ways to to get the guys who they want on the ball on the ball. I can stay on the field. Compare and contrast for us bruce arena and then brian schnitzer as to pretty good coaches to be under and back-back seasons. I mean just winners right you. Have you have two coaches. Who have known how to win in so whether it be putting in certain players in certain positions or Building a culture of winning and and finding the seattle way. It's it's just these coaches find ways to win Whether they see it on paper or on personality or You know using any bit of motivation that they can they find ways to win and it's it's incredible to to be able to play underneath both of them. Well i'm going to. I'm gonna hit you with another compare and contrast we're we're on that topic and that subject. Yes charlie you're the best one of the best although great this outfit here early this this might not be a chuck. Okay chuck it isn't it. Didn't see the t shirt salute to paul mariner. Obviously i gotta rock that one of the best of the best humans. I've yes and coaches and just personalities but compare and contrast carla's he'll who you got to see up close. What an incredible player and now with nicola darrow. Both you know technically gifted left-arm left-footed in the influence they have on and off the ball. There's so if i mean most of the league will know this already but if you haven't those are the i mean in my opinion the two players i've ever played with. It's incredible to see what they can do. And not only the what they can do on the ball but like you said the presence that they have right. They draw to three defenders in create so much space for other people. I mean look at all the assists that carlos has because he's he's gonna take another one guy and all of a sudden there's three next to him 'cause they're they're working to cover for the guy that is defending and they leave open. I mean three guys. It's it's incredible to see what they can do. And what they can bring two games But they are different players right. The i know they play the same position but nicos more active and carlos nikos nicos making sure he's moving all the times you can see his numbers especially but you see on the field. He's on the left. He's on the right. Carlesimo is more of the guy who's sneaking behind you. He kinda sits in that one position and he may walk a little bit but he's going to walk and you're going to all the sudden lose him because you're not checking your shoulder every ten seconds And he's finding a gap of space that can turn it and make things incredible so they are somewhat different in that sense But to play with them you know. And at i do whenever i can. And they're they're asking for the ball you you give it to them that put it on the yet does get out. Danielle says was talking to sergio. What's what's your advice for. Sergio destinies like give the bottom esi. It's hard that's that's the same kind of mine sites like look if you have a chance. Give him the ball since we're working out pretty well. Certainly for the revs there in support or should and for you guys soon to be as well you have steph coming back is back new and of course nicholas darrow. Two games in hand could get you within four points. I believe of new england pretty tough scheduled for the sounders going down the stretch. Here how much do you guys talk about. If at all how much do you entertain the possibility of an incredible supporters. Shield run a vintage seattle sounders. Second half you might say. Yeah we You know internally. I think we talk about it. Know one of us is gonna hopefully new england slips a little bit and we can kind of catch him up on some points. Nah plan no but You know it's it's a good race. I've even chat with some of the new england guys. They're telling us. Hey stop winning. We want an easy race in birthday. Hey notes stop winning. We wanna race So it's it's it's just a fun little battle right you don't unfortunately we don't get that To play them until the final. If if we let yeah sure well soon decided charter finger. All you were but you know to me. It's either way it's kind of a. It's an amazing time. A final at gillette place where i played for eight years or you get a final in seattle where i can be home and when a cup so either way we know winning a cup in either stadium is both teams are going to still do the work to get there. But i think hypothetically how incredible about is the final word amar yes hypothetically it's not gonna hypothetically how do you guys change with those three guys back in the starting lineup for you in nico and fry in new. Who maybe even jordan morris here at some point. I mean i'm not going to. We're not going to look forward to that but it's a possibility but of course this joins get back in as much as he can. He's kind of you know it's small bit of training now which is amazing to have. Just get get him on the field that it just makes everyone a little bit more happy but it doesn't change all that much it just creates more and more debt something that we knew that we had be in the year until we lost all these guys But we have so much now so we have this leaves cup whether it be stephan cleveland or stephan fry or spencer phychi It angle that we have opportunities to to rotate guys in now and keep guys fresh which great because we have a lot of. We have four away games now with the leaks. Got four away games in a row with travel with wednesday saturday wednesday saturday. That's tough. It's a tough thing to happen to be able to have this Rates to stay on top of the west. We need to have the rotation Because it just kills guys legs and going into the end of the season so we need to make sure that we going to use that debt. And i think it's a it's a great strength of ours. I'm curious to know since you've been in seattle whose grown the most who developed the most. Because for me it's altro don. I didn't see him really developing into a player who can really impact the game. He was a impact the region. Charlie mean even with right el salvador. He looks like he's the best player and he's really added to. The chances are shaking up the caveat that salvador usa game. I thought. I think many people thought he was the man-of-the-match he was the best player on field. Agree and i know that you know. The mvp races of of mls stuff will go to the goal. Scorers the assists makers and it won't be a defended. I understand that it's just how the works right in football I think alex rodion is a sleeper in. Mvp not only for our team but for the league. He's been insanely good And it won't show up on assists or goals But he should probably have about ten to fifteen assists he. Just maybe it hits the crossbar or it hits the goalie in so no one gets an assist. You know that kind of thing. So he's been. He's been absolutely incredible for us. I think you're right that he's been one of the guys was grown so much throughout the year and is have made his impact in the fact that he's he's i would say number one number two obviously behind brawl or nico On on on the starting list. It's it's been it's been insane An my second one would probably be a guy like josh ten zero. I think you know. I don't think we've seen a lot of him just yet because he had that early injury but he's he's grown into a very very good player and i love to see young guys like that Especially coming out of here To to be able to grow and hopefully get a lot more playing time and maybe go somewhere even bigger pretty incredible with the senator blew up and down the entire roster feels like between garth and sh- mats and the entire staff which is now been turned over and it's coming back in with some big names. Just get the most that everybody including kellen roku and we gotta talk about kicks. Childhood cancer month tires all about that before we do. I know charlie just keeps pushing me off. Leagues cup will not have it charlie. I have to have one good leagues. Come question kevin when you go up against the league team and of course as winning in santos was big and he did it before that as well. What's the difference between those molest games. And what do you think of this rivalry between the two leagues going forward. How do we better compete against league. Max and league's cup in jail across the board. You know. I think the least cups a great idea. I would love the the fact that they're making it worthwhile. They're not just throwing all right. Let's play an exhibition game. Let's make a tournament out of it. Let's make you know four and four but it's it's tough right if you're going through a struggle in the season and you need to points in the league will you're adding another game midweek. That would hurt. You may be in if you don't have the debt so that's tough But i honestly and i love the fact that like a game like on tuesday. It was back and forth the whole time and it was a track. Meet from minute one. It was counter-attacked counterattack to counter attack. Sometimes doesn't always work. I had a great time doing it. I was. I was having a blast. I love those kind of games. So i think it's interesting to see the different styles in something you don't see every day because whether you watch the game or not you don't play against these teams and i think it's it's a fun way to to kind of get back into the love of the game and not have to have this repetitive. I've played san jose ten times in a season i've played l. a. Fc ten times in the season. It's nice to go outside and find some new fresh blood to to kind of you know be up on or To learn a little bit more about the game you know You know in the league. I mean maybe get away with tackle here and there or you know. I was out of position. This team will punish me. It's something like that so it was just fun for me to get back and applying something. I didn't know yeah now. Let's push league cup to the side as i've been trying to do it is funny. How was like just a team to beat up. that's like a sounders only for kick someone else. You don't a tackle more fun than getting into a tackle. The guy i know. I'm going to have a beer with later. True all i know is you've been one of the leaders and role models when it comes to being involved in kitsch other cancer awareness month and he did a lot of work at the boston jones hospital with k. Divine and really organizing some incredible events. What what are you doing now in seattle to continue your your role in getting people to understand what's taking place in how to help what's great as everyone has worked in the community here in with the team in with a little bit of the hospitals as well they've they've kind of reached out right when i got signs which has been great but unfortunately it's were still in that that world so we're not able to have those kids come to the game wolters. My favorite part is is getting the kids out of the hospital. You know they haven't been able to be released from the hospital and we're not able to have the support that they need at the games so at the moment we're taking a step back from having the actual event at the games But we look to do that next year when it hopefully. I'm still here and for doing now. We're doing video calls. So i will have a call the kid in the hospital or we can make video. So they'll send in their names what they're What they're really into and kind of give a quick message to them kind. Tell them hello and that were support them. Not only myself with the whole team. What's great about that is the team. Here is just a bunch of good guys that everyone is kind of involved in their own little thing. I know we'll bruins doing something with georgetown brewery right now where he's got his own beer that he made and the proceeds of that it's call two thumbs up. The proceeds of that are going to childhood cancer and hospital so not only myself is doing all these great things is. I know that most guys are also doing their own little snippets and it just creates a good community around seattle. And i know that Back in new england heels doing his his back to school thing which is great. So if you haven't done that in new england area make sure you guys go donate to teals Back to school towing. What was the moment. You decided that this was something that you wanted to devote time and energy in emotion and effort to you know i it was i kinda. Put my hands in everything when i was first in the league. I wanted to make sure. I want to get in the community as much as possible and if anything stuck it i would go on that and it was actually the first kid i ever hosted. His name was david But i met him in the hospital and He was can. I come to a game and i was kinda put back by a new. Yes i can't really tell you. Yes because i don't know if you can get out of the hospital how sick you actually are never ask We're able to do it. And the you know the look on his face and the joy of ham and his brother and his family kind of okay. This this means more than just football. You know more than soccer. Mrs this is actually real life. can do so much more and from that event created good crew and i never wanna look beautiful stuff man. We know it means a lot on this show. We know it means a lot to families across the united states and the world so kellyn row doing good stuff and seattle. How great time in his hometown as well maybe league scope champion get rings. Can i just ask that. Look you're asking me know all right. I think we gotta ask. You gotta ask metzer say. Hey we get some silverware some rings. I'll take like a few cases of wine. You go so leagues next week. Seattle sounders chasing shield colin. Rowe doing good work. We appreciate your time and thanks for coming on. Thanks guys thanks for joining us and thanks to him and everybody in the seattle community as well as been boston and all over the country. Doing everything can to kick childhood cancer. we've got our scarves up. We've put the tweets. I think and hope that fifty grand will be delivered by continental via the hashtag. If you haven't used it go use it. Hashtag kiss childhood cancer. Just got a tweet. It no sweat off your back as money. That's money to help kids and their families. Let's talk real quickly about sporting kc before we get to the mailbag and get on outta here. Charlie sporting kansas city laid the wood on minnesota. Figured out what happened. When i saw the minnesota injured list. It did happen for nothing with that. Win mike mcgrew on twitter says. Casey joins the galaxies. The only teams in emma's history to surpass one thousand one hundred and fifty points. All time i would have thought that i might have put dc there. They had some down years. Yeah but i would not have thought that sporting kc among the mls geez would be in that position and we've been praised on the sounders sporting kc preserves a little bit of that too. They do peter vermes what he's done year in your out yes. They've had some mrs but they've always been a team that you know you're going to have to really focus to be. The is never an easy win and spy playing in kansas city especially that the crowd the the brilliant stadium they have the atmosphere sporting kansas city brings it and deserves all the credit for building that club from the ground up point at the top of the west. Only thing for me keeping them from sort of the fawning revs sounders. Discussion is probably just inconsistency on the back line this year a ton of injuries across the entire line if they can get consistent there if they can get marine back they might just make a run at this thing how they might do it without him so we shall see they have a big game coming up not this weekend but the next against the sounders. So we'll look forward to that one as well. I just wanna throw it out there. In the shield race sounders going to sell on saturday. Night live on. Espn plus nine thirty pm. Eastern and in the host the crew at seven live on espn plus huddle with the dulcet. Tones of charlie davies. Coming through on that when charlie. Let's go mailbag 401 extra soccer. Dot com This is this is shaun from san jose's a crew fan. He's from ohio. Says he doesn't want to take anything away from the ribs. Run away with the shield season but yelp the reds have benefited from not being in l. leagues cup and can solely focus on. Mls plate. one do you think. They've benefited from that. Charlie and to the discussion on monday about the shield. Whether it was the revs to just have now. It's already there's or if there really is debate. Where do you stand on both those points. I think yes when a teams are playing more games in the have to. Of course you're going to benefit. But bruce rena has done a terrific job of rotating the squad and they've had to deal with injuries carlos he'll who's dabo making sure that he's still sets up the team. Dejam buchanan gone. Obviously you're losing internationals when come around. He's done a fantastic job of getting. These revs ray to play no matter. Who's on the field and it's because of the the identity of this squad and the depth that they have a lot of the untested players who have come out have performed map as kind of developed into the player that we all hope when he was playing at the chicago. Fire being consistent embiid playing simple. That has allowed. Everyone getting the most out of emma's veterans. He's he's done. I think fantastic job this year. Ema boateng another player who still developing underbush with the rams but as of late as looked sharp. But i think for the revs. What's really stuck out for me. Is the game changes that they have in matt turner in tae-zhee buchanan gustavo car lucille. Now adam buchse those five when you can play horribly for eighty nine minutes and it takes one player to come up with something masterful which they're all capable of to win the game. That's how you know. Revs are always in it. They're always in in every team. They play knows that it's almost like yes. They might be playing better. But they know at any at any moment tatum. Buchanan can beat two guys square ball in for gustavo august. Albo can shoot from forty yards out. Upper ninety a bullet off the crossbar adam. Books can just pope pop pop up in the box in finnish and carlos ceo. We know what he's capable off of set pieces and just his mastery on. The ball is not the fastest player in the league. Or the quickest but he can be two three players on the dribble. 'cause nobody wants to get close to you can't get coastal because of his position. Just he's just brilliant. The little magician. Is they win. The shield though charlie yes i do i do believe that. Would you bear into would you night. No don't don't don't go take them take that heck somewhere else. i'm not. I'm not thrown any juju on this run so no not answering that all right. How about the double. How realistic is the double for this team. Because we she'll be nice. But for rams fans for the crafts for bruce arena for everybody. Cup is the goal is the goal in of the twenty five teams that have won the supporter. Shield down going to say it's a ban t. but were marketed. I'm just gonna say only seven have gone onto win. Mos cup in of that seven. Bruce arena has done it twice with dc united ninety eight with elliot. Axing twenty eleven. And i'm just saying he's done it before. So it's not something new for bruce rena he's been in the mls cup five times right. He's one he's been in the position of wind supporters shield. He's had talented squads. Thanks to my man. Glencoe the masseuse for the revolution. Able to give me those stats. But i'm telling you right now. This multi multi skilled guy there multi-skilled making sure. The hamis are nice and loose. And then bam with the hidden stats. Connor is is a one in a million just to guy. But i'm telling you right now. The reds have all the pieces to do it. All right we shall see they. Could they might get a ring again. Maybe a couple of you hit ring. Maybe i'll get to if they do support a shield and i don't get a shield get. I don't know i've seen people celebrating. Shield rings have you. Yeah go check that out. We shall see. I've i've i've seen more just teams dressing up by captain america shields giving our rings for those things but we'll see about that one Like a big week into combat. Thanks to cowan row for joining us if you have any thoughts on the weekend for a one zero six zero unless extra time dot back with the full crew on monday myself. Doyle gas and ceylan in the meantime. That's it for us charlie. We got some problems at we. Bring all right. It's been good to be back good to talk soccer. The stretch crown is on was do. We'll see on monday.

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Caught Offside: Quarterfinals here we come

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Caught Offside: Quarterfinals here we come

"Caught offside with Edry gumming and. JJ. Davani. Offside for the Upper West side of Manhattan and regarding and JJ Advani be US women are into the quarterfinals, brother. Hello, Andrew Sony, pretty Chipper. It's a good day to be an American soccer fan in this country. US women. Like I said, two one winners over Spain. We will get into all of that, and the US men over the weekend. Smashing Trinidad and Tobago. Six nil in a beautiful act of swift unmerciful, revenge revenge, swift revenge, six hundred sixteen days later. Yeah, they revenge is a dish Besser of cold. I've heard people say, well, this is this is gas, Baccio soup then spots, which is served cold for all you plebs out there. So we'll talk about that as well. Newcastle have some things happening. So I'm sure you'll anger. Some of their fans today is you tend to do. We'll have an in the club Lee rider will join us later on to talk about Rafa Benitez. And why he is no longer going to be managing them because it's not a thing that anyone wanted except for one man, and unfortunately, that one man matters more than everyone else, and we discovered just as a preemptive point to make before this interview we discovered that Dave Coverdale the journalists tweeted that Rafa did not know about any of this until Newcastle. United released the statement that they couldn't find a deal in that he will be departing the club. That's dot one dot is what covert Ayla saying that is not what Lee writer will say. But at the same time, would you be shocked? No. No, nothing. Nothing with them. Yeah. They're in such a weird place right now. It's so we'll talk to Lee Ryder about all that a little bit Argentina as we kind of follow up from the other day we spoke last week, pre the Qatar match now that has happened in Argentina. Do get into the quarterfinals of the Copa America as we speak, actually JJ, Chile and Uruguay airplane, one another. So we'll monitor that in real time. It's nil. Hill right now, missing a lot of games when recording the whole summer, though. I two calendar needs to be rethought. I know these are separate institutions comparable Concha, calf fee. They're all under the umbrella fief. It there's there's too much happening at competing not a competing times, but. I feel as if it's a lot to ask everyone to try him watch as much of, of the soccer toppling. We all you pick and choose. I answered a question on Instagram. Why of we discuss the African Cup of nations? We're not going to get to that until the later stages choice. It's just the way it is. It's too much. Yes. Cass went to an hour. Twenty with the two what do people want, like the US women, and the US men, both have had key games in major tournaments like, but we do everyone like for most podcast, that would be the show. All right. Just be happy that we're also going to have somebody on about Newcastle. We talk about Argentina. Oh my God. You're we covered a with everyone we cover the primary league and we've a world audience. So you know you need to just resign yourself to that fact, and I think every week on the podcast we should just have a section where we just list names of teams just so we can check off the boxes and make sure everyone's happy. All right. You've been mentioned. I mean. I mean, what are we supposed to sport that has about, like how many teams are there in the world, a few thousand this possible dispassionate list of teams just listing listing just listening, by the way, I'm proud of myself today, because the last time I wore this shirt on a podcast. You absolutely crushed me and today, I haven't worn it in a long time because I take everything you say to heart you have the ability to ruin me inside today. When I was getting dressed. I was like doing a podcast today on a wanna hear. And then I said, you know what? Forget him. I'm wearing it. And so, that's I think a sign of growth of maturity, so I don't care what you think quite frankly, shirt when light in material, and it's very hot and humid in New York today. So I'm happy with it. And I'm gonna continue to wear it. I might even sleep in tonight. I need to describe it now. So it's a white shirt isn't. It's light blue stripes. Sorry, light blue with, with the white pinstripe. Imagine a late nineteen eighties film about the Wall Street crash, and it pans to, to the brokers. This is the shirt be wary about a stress dote broker who cannot believe that you're wrong. His Exxon stock is falling through when he's getting calls from all over the world. You're wrong on his secretary with shoulder pads and a massive Perm runs down and tells him it's over and he goes, oh my God, I'm going to lose the house in Rhode Island. All from this shirt, you just put together a whole script. That's quite a brain. You got going on in there. Hey, let's get to this now. To one US that is your final. It was it was tough. This was a probably more challenging match than people gave it credit for. There was a lot of by the way, we're partially guilty of this. There was a lot of France. France. How are we gonna do against France? There was a game that had to happen before that and Spain pushed the US to the limit so props to them. Can I say something though? There is a lot of people who are betraying the amount of soccer tournaments. They've watched with the common. Save made as far as I can see on social media. That's a classic last sixteen tricky tight. Nobody is going to hand you anything. No, the comfortable days of Thailand and chillier over an even Sweden playing minus seven players, the group stage for teams like the US is a phony war on to be fair lettuce negotiated pretty well so far we have some comments to make about the team today. But guys. This is what it is. I remember when France won the men's world cope in nineteen ninety eight their toughest game in the knockout was probably Paraguay you know, they had to pull the lake all of the fire to law and bronc to get through that game. This is the kind of thing you'll get Spain. We're never going to go there with the progress they've made as a team with players that they have or Mosul front. They were never gonna make it easy. Now I believe the US were the dominant team in this game. I believe the deserve to go through whether you disagree with the penalty are not, but I will say this they were the authors of their misfortune in this game in terms of keeping it close. There's a feeling so far in this tournament. And this could change as the US go deeper now that they're going to the, you know, Spain regret. But the quality of the competition is going to ratchet up, but up to this point, I the feeling is the only way the US could lose is if they sabotage themselves, it certainly fees that way, and it nearly it nearly happened today. I mean really when you think about it, they've been almost flawless. Yes. There have been moments here there where you've maybe kinda raised an eyebrow at something. But not even a full library. But overall, it's been a pretty flawless World Cup campaign for them. So it just would have been so cruel, let's say they go on. It stays one one they go on. They lose on something like penalties after extra time the thought that your whole World Cup. When you've been so great so great, so great favorites to win. And then one mistake, like the listen, Nair, probably ill advised past, Becky Sauerbrun, and lately, and even more ill advised decision making by Sauerbrun to kinda hold onto it a little bit too long with pressure bearing down like that. One mistake could have undone all of what they've done so far, and whatever they're going to go onto potentially do afterward. Now, fortunately for them the US were the beneficiary of a couple close decisions on penalties. But it's just amazing that one moment where teams make mistakes. They made one Spain capitalized on it. And that almost was enough to end this whole thing for the US. Yeah. And it's important to address playing from the back. I'm sure that Jill. Preaches passing through the phases. We've seen them they can go long. They can go short. There's they've their players, particularly their midfielders have such a range of passing, but there guys, there's nobody telling you when the goalkeeper can see the whole field and can see you're getting squeezed the defender. That's our own is getting Swiss getting squeezed. It's our fault don't play that pass. Hold onto it look to the other site or boot it down the field. Nobody's the philosophy of playing from the back does not mean that the first option? You see the wound you take even if it's dangerous. It was a calamity. No was a fine finish really tidy finish. But what absolute calamity and so soon after going one up, which is two goals in the first ten minutes. Yes. Once and then it descended into something of a real, just ding-dong classic round of sixteen bottle, not that dissimilar to what we saw yesterday in France and Brazil, actually I kind of felt like the US certainly in the first half. I thought they, they had a clear advantage playing down the right Tobin heath. Was playing very well. Rose Lavelle thought was phenomenal in the first half. She played in a ball to Meghan repeal that was probably the past return got out and take that on her right foot. I know it's not her stronger site pushy time of the left and forced to save went out for a corner. It was probably going into the site Papa Ronin water. Perceptive pass a couple of times the value that chat. She came in for for abuse from some people that I came way McQuillan people Twitter like why. But I just see it like all she's her passes where little bit behind. Yeah. But generally her ability to run and break the lines of Spain was crucial cheese proving to be amongst the midfielders, one of the more impressive performers. Speaking of the midfielder's, let's go back to before the game started and decision from Jill Ellis to not start Lindsey Horon, who we've always said this, it is a team of superstars, but there's a case to be made that Lindsey haram has been the best player on the team so far. So, you know, we understood rotating the squad. In the group stage, but now we're in the knockout stage and I'm not saying that this was a squad rotation move for Lindsay play. I can only assume I don't know if Jill Ellis, she's probably spoken on it, since we're recording shortly after this ended, I can only assume it was so haram would avoid picking up another yellow card which caused her to miss the France game. That's a bold move to make. I don't know curious what you thought of the decision not start. I was surprised. I wouldn't have done it myself. I think I think you, you don't take for, for granted that this team is going to rule span over on your in against France. I understand the concerns, but equally she brought her on in the eighty fifth minute. So imagine a scenario, which actually happened where Spain, go down the field for an equaliser on she mix rash challenge in an attempt to stop a breakaway. She gets every time she was near the play I was nervous. The US were holding it up in the corner in the sixth minute of stoppage time, whatever it was. And she had it there and they kind kinda lost possession, and I was just so afraid like sometimes you'll see someone in a situation like that just hack the player down to waste more time of just like cringing, like don't do anything here that, you'll regret. Don't do anything here that you regret. She didn't. And she'll be available that you could ease the had considering that, that, that decision to bring her in the eighty fifth. What was seven minutes of timeout at ons, which? She was on the field for twelve minutes. You know, that's long enough to get a yellow card. So I didn't it had to be like the first thing acticle. The first thing in her mind must have been, you know, no, silly turnovers. No silly mistakes. Let's see this out. But right behind that in her brain had to be, no dumb fouls. No dumb fouls. Jill. L must look she didn't start the game for this reason, late, as far as I know so that must have been the emphasis to her to know I can't do anything dumb here. Yeah. But like I said, you're putting your in high pressure situation trying to close the game out. And like you said, it's possible possible, quite likely to pick up a carrot in that scenario I didn't understand bringing her in at all the only slack that I give Jill Ellison this because you're right. I feel like once you get to the knockout stage you've you, you should've identified your first eleven by now and if everyone is healthy than they all I think she has. Yeah. But the only reason that I kind of let Gillette off the hook is because when I saw. Saw the initial team sheet. It didn't even dawn on me as great as Lindsay haram is like I just said, she might be the best player for the team. So far in this tournament as great. She is when I saw the team it didn't even dawn on me right away because like every name on there to me still belongs as a first team player. Sure. And then I saw somebody like sub tweet off of the US soccer tweet saying, oh, no haram. This must be card related something like that. And I was like, oh my God. That's right. Her name's not there. So that's the only thing is like we continue to say the drop off from one player to the next is so minimal, it seems that like they can afford to have a luxury where okay she's a great player for us. First team around her day. Let's just make sure we still think that the next player after her can get us through Spain. Is that cocky, maybe but is it wrong to think that way not necessarily? I don't think so I would agree with that, and it worked out it did work. And also we did create chances. We did dominate the game for the most part Spain only had one shot. On target. Yeah. There's a lot of slot of again. It's a social media vibe, but it's the only way you can really judge things if you're not in a bar with other people watching are in the stadium, a lot of kind of all with we play like that against France on Friday. We're not gonna make it through equally. France, pay the way they did against Brazil, they're not gonna make it through either soul. Say that about any of this is this is the fine marriages end. It is these games have been slow taints on soa absorbing to really good games. I thought I will say this converting chances has become something, obviously, in the group stage. It wasn't a problem. But today it was a bit concerning. I do feel like if you're going to dominate that much of the play and create the chance that you did. If you look at the expected goals, it wasn't a very high number. You've got to convert, and that's a big thing. I think against France going to do, but I can level the same thing at France, absolute. So it's hard to go through a World Cup without being pushed like you said with the France Paraguay. Sample. You're a World Cup. It's what's going no-one really coasts to a World Cup now. It's only the round of sixteen there's still a lot more to go for the US. But like this is going to happen. I'm going to be another tough test along the way, you know, should they continue. I'm wondering what changes you would make mino- this game? What did you see today that you didn't like? Well, I don't know about changes. But Alex, Morgan seemed very uninvolved today. She got she knows she kicked around a fair bit. Yes. She did. She end up going the full ninety. I'm trying to remember. No. She didn't. I remember several moments because we knew after the group stage when she didn't talk to reporters afterwards. She was dealing with an injury. She came off at the half in that the FOX afterwards and she didn't speak about an injury, but she said she was down a lot, but you could see her during the game like during breaks struggling. But yes, she was down. So I don't know if like it just didn't seem like she was really in the game. I don't think she's. On a one hundred percent fit. Yeah. And I actually think there's, there may be caused for some kind of a reef configuration of that, frontline. And maybe it's time to, I don't know if jealous will do what she seems to be not conservative coach, but I don't know. I mean Alex is going gonna tell her that she's finding that she's going to be ready to go for France. It's a fairly quick turnaround for Friday, but maybe certainly subsitution can't believe how late all the subs were. Kristen press didn't see too, like time added on. That's what I would ask you though, like it's all if she's gonna take now Kristen press, like again, she longs, I team a take off. Alex, I think I am. Meglena who's journalist over there covering for equalizer soccer. I think Ella says soaps came late because she felt there was momentum. And some of the players grew into the half despite the heat. I don't know of that. I think that was there was a period in the second half where where we wilted. I thought we finished strongly zip period in the second half or Spain. I felt began to take a little bit. I remember saying to you was we were watching the game on. I thought we were coming more into it. And the US looked like that expended a lot of energy in the first half. And look, if you've got a bench without kind of talent there, I wouldn't be afraid to use. I would take an Alex Morgan much quicker than than it actually turned out that it happened. Yeah. That's fair. Here is Jill Ellis. Afterwards talking about her her thoughts on the performance. I think at times played very well, I think just that fine third that final pass at times, you know, we can be clean that up there. Good team. I think this is grit. Resolve actually thought times, played really, really good soccer. That final pace we could have been three at half. And so I think those are the moments that you want to continue to build on, but just proud to discredit a second-half that got now and everybody contributing, I think the resiliency and the and the goading out as she said is, is important as much as you of quality players when it comes to nocco tournament football, that's what you need to be able to do. It's there's so many teams when talking about men's World Cups and indeed the women's game. But at World Cups, how many teams just not there really talented? But they don't have that grit and grind. The US do on that is really important that the way to close out the game. It bodes well for the rest of the tournament, hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully on France. The reason one of the reasons that the US has a rest of the tournament is. Because a couple of penalty decisions went their way, the first one, I three penalty decisions in my view went their way, so you're, including the last one for Spain. I think that is questionable as the Lavelle felling for the second. Penalty. The first one, I, I don't have much to sound because I do think that was the right call. I do think the Tobin nuts phone stepped on one hundred percents. Let's talk before we get to the Spain one because all defer to you on that one more. So, but the, the one that proved to be the difference. That's I mean, that's as close a call, as I feel like you can have now, the only reason that I feel at least decent about it, where I don't feel like guilty about it is because VAR exists, and so the ref like the ref calls that in real time, it's obviously incredibly close. It goes to VAR, if you have that much of a chance to look at it, and there's nothing so conclusive that it would deter the referee to change the call than I than I'm comfortable with it remaining as a penalty, I know Spain fans were booing after the even US fans are dear friend, Mike Sappho, who is red white and blue as you can get call the BS, call on Twitter, so he couldn't see what the referee soul in either instance Varna realtime. I told you I don't know how much contact could see. But I will say this, it's a wild swing of the foot from this banished defender, which is gonna leave it open. But the other. The thing that would maybe mitigate against giving a penalty is the delayed fall from the Val. Now, now, she said, she wasn't sure in her post comments, she said she wasn't sure about it either, but she felt her shin was hit. Well, if that's the case, it's the penalty, then I mean I wonder too, do you, if you're Spain, I forget the defender was for Spain that went in on that challenge. But you go in, like you said a while challenge studs up, which won't you your? When I doubt she swinging at the ball. Well, it's not a challenge per se. She swinging at the ball and she catches the value, if that's what the penalties for. It's not like it's not like an actual studs-up attack. Right. You know what I mean reducer? Yeah. Reducers not. It's not that. No. Here's Julie Foudy, former US women's national team star host of laughter permitted podcast ESPN here, she is on her thoughts on the second penalty decision. I thought it was soft, but here's the problem, right when the referee makes the call, and they go to VAR when they. See the contact in VAR and it studs up had. She not made it right. It would have been a different story because I don't think she would've been ruled at a penalty but because she had already made it. She couldn't then take it away because there was a little bit of contact. But I think it's a soft penalty if it was the other side, if it was, that's what happened in the United States box in the United States was going home on that penalty. I mean there would be an outrage ultimately, I think she I think she hits on it. They're, it's, it's to me. It's just one of those classic situations with whatever the call is on the field. There's just nothing so incontrovertible that you're gonna see in the replay that's gonna move you off of that decision. So that's kind of it for me. Okay. The Spanish penalty, then because I don't want I'm very conscious of going over these viruses when people have already been through them several times. But I mean the referee didn't even blow the whistle. There was no consultation. There was nothing put the ball is driven into the box. It breaks down from a header right inside the box, and she's about to open open swing for volley spies attacker, who didn't even show a replay of it on FOX, I can't even tell you who the Spanish player was she swings for it. And it looks as if it's Juliet's, who comes in from behind to poke the ball away and catches, her foot and fells are not to me would of being a penalty as well as, as much if not more than. The Lavelle want. But again, here, here's me, I'm gonna stick to this because I've been consistent with this. I would've been happy without VAR for that referee to give that penalty because that's my opinion we leave the refereeing to the referees, which one Spain one late on seven minute. No, the US will the Lavelle penalty. I'm quite happy to hold my hands up with. I agree with Julie Foudy would have been soft, but in real time without VAR. Go ahead and do it equally. I'm happy that the referee didn't call the one there. I am happy to leave it to the referee. Ghana wanna make this VAR? Now, let's not do that. No. But I can't let you have the last word. This is why Vars great because there's too much at stake. And in a situation like that, where the contact was so questionable. The fact that we can go to a system to make sure you're gonna decide somebody's World Cup fate. So the fact that we have a system where you can make sure of your decision. I think it's right. I think it's right. Can I give you a court that's going to bring joy to your did to mine anyway? Yeah. Grant wall tweeted this, this was Meghan repainted. After the game talking about the semifinal matchup against France. Hopefully, a complete spectacle, just an absolute media circus. I hope it's huge in crazy. That's what it should be. That is the best game. This is what everybody wanted. I think we wanted seems like they're up for you guys, of course are talking about the media and all the fans. Maybe it'll be a pretty even split between the fans in the stadium. We've been traveling pretty deep in this World Cup. So I hope it's a total show circus. It's going to be totally awesome. This is what everybody wants. And these are the biggest games that you claim to dream as a kid. Love love dot soc e so. Right. And I think it will be the idea of US fans packing that place like right there fifty fifty with the French fries going pretty cool. Well, they're the deepest driving support outside of the Netherlands, France, in the US, the biggest obviously, because French can draw on the home support, then there's the Netherlands, it's an absolute job or not of quarter. Final. It's so big it's going to be wonderful awesome. I'll tell you what. We'll touch on that a little bit more later on the podcast. When we get to what to watch for will let you know, when that is. And yeah, we will get you set for that. We'll take a very quick break right now. When we come back JJ, the good feelings continue. We'll talk about the US men and their victory over Trinidad and Tobago from Saturday night. A couple of other things to discuss as well, the England Cameroon craziness all that stuff. Don't go anywhere. Back now on caught off side. Oh, JJ six nil. The US men over Trinidad and Tobago. I mean look, there's a lot being made about the revenge factor. Not revamped. It's not it doesn't make up for what happened that night, we didn't go to a World Cup, but it was fun and it was more fun because it was them. And I don't feel bad saying that, like if they if they did that same thing to Panama later coming up this week when they play it won't feel the same to me as doing it to Trinidad. Right. I think that's petty. I don't know. It's not an fan, and it's how I feel I'm not you know in the spirit of the game and of the tie it self US versus Trinidad and Tobago. I thought that Trinite onto Bego players were very generous, and how they've played in that second half in that twenty minute. Burst of goals. I have never I won't say never, but I will say it's the amateur level since I've seen such gracious defending. They were they I just couldn't believe how easily the US could spread them out. And just like it was just chaos defending with the set when the second goal went in their heads went it was owned believable watch manager of the Trinidad and Tobago team spoke afterwards saying, I don't know how you become such good team for sixty five minutes, and then become such a bad team while tell you how you just lay down their tools. It was shameful. Like it's one of those where you're questioning the character of your players afterwards. I will say it is one of those moments in sports where you're watching something like, you know, I imagine Golden State Warriors fans feel this way off. And when like Steph clay, and Durant are in one of those zones where they just whatever goes up like they're hitting, it doesn't matter what kind of defense there is. They're just hitting the shot. It felt that way watching this game. It just felt during that stretch in the second half where every single time the US went forward and attack reach the point, I'm sitting on my couch. And like I forget, which goal it was, but they're bombing forward. And I remember out loud by myself, just saying goal and then like sure enough, they score. It just you felt it coming on every single one of those rushes while the script was thus Stephan made that brilliant save in the sixty four th minute. Then on sixty six days, sixty nine sired is with the curling effort, Seventy-three pulic, seventy eight areola. Like that is just a twelve minute stretch of or forty minutes if you wanna start at the and save disaster for them and the US. So here's, here's where to, I suppose, switch gears, twenty to not talk about Trinidad. They were bad in that period. There's no point looking at it on the other way. But the things that you like to see from the US were there. You know if you look at the. Let me give desired goal. Okay. So it starts with the team winning fifty fifty ball in midfield, and breaking that is what we have to do on the space opened up that way Bradley's ball to to, you know, to Lima was brilliant, and then it's not a docking czar does the needful again. Zionism sixty-nine. It's a turnover midfield. Now it's a terrible bowl out of the back, but we still turn it over. We quickly break. -peutic is driving into the gap, and that's a really classy finish from the much-maligned GIO Caesar too. People like that for the people. So I d- VR game. Yeah. Me too, because I have my own game playing and get back and I see people musical notes on because I've asked, how the first half is gone JIRA sees his first his first. So there was a mood change. Again. Seventy-three Puteh, sake marris wins the bowl back easily put he still wins it. They're putting pressure in a dangerous area wins it back, and it's in. It's quite simple. And I mean, the seventy eight medical, that's a lovely flick. From Josie Alto door. I'm not denying that to put marris in. Guys who had their backs turned to throw it like you. They were broken at some point they broke. I know but there is a certain amount of pride. You have to take in the jersey. You, you do things like that, Andrew, I some of those guys deserved to be read the riot act by their mind, absolute, I'm sure that's probably the case. Absolutely. He'd be well within his rights to do it. Let's talk about I guess first off the thing that everyone agrees upon and that is Christian pulisic as the best player on this team more often than not. We see that for the US but this is one of those games where it's just like clear as day. Oh my God. Are you important to what we're gonna do? Yes. Sure. And what was good was that he combined so well with both Boyd who had another good outing and areola. There was nice. You know, he linked to play well he is the fulcrum. You're right. He also drove at them. You know, there was times on. I really he was twisting guys into knots. And. Was really good to say that was he had move. It actually elicited like Stu hold in almost like lost control of himself, the move next to wouldn't the move right near midfield. What was it that Stu said, fill all yes, yes, they the it was an it was like nutmeg. Oh, you drag bout at he, I'd never actually seen them move before. He's dragging it back and then pushing it forward, and he's completely don't him. And then he got around a second guy dribbled into space. I watched that. And I'm like this is a guy who is in just top condominium, you do that. You it's amazing. How having a player that can take someone on drive into the space behind them can open up the play. It's, it's just magic when he does it was so good to say so like absolutely. I am in lockstep with you on that. I wonder if Chelsea fans are watching that thinking. Oh, ooh. Yours is the hopeful voice of the American fan. Chelsea voice would be quite different. Wessel, ROY in Trinidad and Tobago in it. You know if he can do that down a bridge against, you know, it or fan of fake it to that against Liverpool fit can do that. The also donkey me Trinite unto Baio dog and duck Mike. Now, let's talk about the appeal of sick. Like I said, it's unanimous, but let's go back to the, the hymns the psalms. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, the regular things you hear every week at church, and in the church of US soccer, it's jesse's artists. I touch he's the player that everyone loves to mock. And the player that everyone loves to hate is Michael, Bradley. I thought both got I mean, look, there's no debating Josse artists. I would say guy scores two goals probably could have had a hat-trick. This is what like he's playing a number nine role, and he's finishing and got himself in the right positions. You could mock the goal he scored against Guyana because I don't even think he knows what happened for that ball to go into. I mean these two goals, the one curler was just that is a striker goals beautiful and the other one. He's where striker should be positioned streaking in front of the net. The balls played him nicely. And he's able to finish. So, like top marks jesse's artists. I'm not saying. That he should be the top striker for this team when everyone's healthy, I still do that. That's Jozies position. And once we get into the knockout stage of this competition. Maybe we'll see that I think they're slowly working Josie back into fitness and into form. But in the meantime, this is excellent for to be playing. Like I had a nice back and forth. With a guy on Twitter, call the indie handbook wrist like some, some good points and he said, not a hawk tick just numbers Artis four goals in ten games under bear halter, that is the goal every two point five games. Three hundred percent improvement overs, performance for the previous three US men's national team managers. Same was true in Columbus Zionism Br bear halter. Equal goals is not a fluke. Now. I just said, I responded, obviously because I wanted just to tease it out a little bit. I said, not stoning numbers considering some of the opposition in those games are the fight. One of those four goals was literally, a fluke in that it wacked off his face. Well, so you were actually doing the him singing. But no, no. But I said, totally understand. About the Berhard goes, but what he knows at this point. And I said, how we said when he went when Berhard was still manager, Columbus in the trade was made for Veritas that we felt he would be in position or at least a system will be in position for he going to set him, open do do those things on the goals afloat afterwards, and this is what the Indian book finished with. It's a good point. It's no doubt. He's a systems player. It's a system that a lot of strikers thrive. Look at Kamara an ultimatum who had the best seasons of their careers with him on, I'm sure there are plenty in US men's national team, PU who will do well, but it will take time to learn. Look, he is going to be somebody that Berhalter will go to why wouldn't he it's like Garrett soak. It are maybe not the best example, met will maybe soak it worked with Jaden Sancho on the twenty one's. I know that didn't happen. But say he had and he brings him up because he knows him when he gets the senior team job like there's nothing wrong with, with. And it's quite normal for managers to go with what they know, in terms of striker, he's going to be. Serviceable at this level he is he's, he's going to score at this level. Right. And again, like he's not going to be their first team striker, he's doing that right now because he's filling avoid, but that's not permanent. And so as a sub. Yeah, you could probably for the US for the US you could probably do work. Well, I, I don't know for sure about that one hundred we, we have to see out the door has to put a sustained rolling of fitness together. First of all, that's what he needs to do. But barrel, just going to lean on the guys knows we seen him do it, early will trap. He has his foibles. He likes Nick Lima. He wants to play Tim ream a fullback position. He has an idea. I'll tell you what I like he does what he wants to do with this team. That's much more clear. We did not have this under under our last manager of, of a prolonged period, which was your meant we were going into these games not knowing what he was gonna throw up at least with barrel to. We have an idea of what he's trying to do. Yeah. And then with Michael, Bradley I thought that he was good in this game. You mentioned the ball that he played into Lima, which set up the goal there's always going to be moments with. He's not perfect people are just so ready to pounce, on the mistakes that he makes I know that there were people who were disappointed with the angle, he took on the attempt. Trinidad's good attempt on net where Stephon was forced into making a pretty nice save. Some people thought Bradley took the wrong angle. Okay. Yeah. Maybe that's true. But I also feel like you're looking for it like you guys out there are waiting for plays like that guy's taking certain angles probably happens all the time. But with Bradley just feels like we stress a little bit more. But let's not forget, another prescient bald for a goal to second goal which was crucial just after he had another great ball against. I know it's on I know. But it was still a very, very good ball to set up. One of the goals there weird thing happened as longtime ago, never spoke about on the podcast. But again on. Twitter where I really need to spend less time and an eye girl, blocked me because. I disagreed with her take. All there's Bradley doom. One of his chippy, floaty passes. I remember sent while a lot of those are pretty good balls. You know, on a dare you blocked me block me for served it just for saying something. Nice about me to fall in line Jj. I need to I need to, you know, stop like in the Brad Meister fall in line. We probably of all the podcasts out there. I challenge any of them to defend him the way that this one does. And I wonder how many people are we trashing? We defend him most of the time because he's honestly because he's not as bad as people say, also the let's be honest those that have come in to take his spot. Have not exactly. Flourished on. We haven't had a chance to see what everyone's preferred Bundesliga midfield of atoms and mckinney's. We haven't had a chance, speaking of which I don't have too much else to say about this except for Weston mckennie. I'm breathing nisi relief on because when he got hurt against Guyana, I think, actually said, well that may be him done for this tournament was just cramp. Fact. Right. The fact that it was only a cramp and that he started and not only did he play. But he played really well he's, he's just a great passer. Like I just feel like he's going to be fun to watch in that distribution role for this team for years to come. Yeah. And we excited about we don't have a ton of them, weaned, he'd guys in the in the park, we're going to set temple and win their tackles on also his energies, grit. Yeah. The last question I have here is I remember the conversation after the two friendlies leading up to the tournament. I even remember the conversation, a little bit after Guyana when people like four nil wasn't enough for people. It was the way they won four note, which people didn't seem to approve of our nerves beginning to settle now two games in you've won by a combined score of ten nil nerves toward this tournament just like. The bare Holter hate after the two friendlies, Jamaican Venezuelan. Well, that, by the way, who are like our people realizing yet that there good team. Yeah. We exist. It's not going anywhere. We, it has been sated for now. We exist permanently on the edge of that. We are permanently as a as a soccer fan based ready to boil over at any moment, we really have learned nothing, like there is this. I know I still have a lot of that American era. That's in me is. From you that Wall Street's shirt, you're where, especially in CONCACAF competitions because it's kind of been drilled into our heads over the years that the US typically go deep and gold cups and do well in World Cup qualifying. We don't have that feeling for nothing. But like have people not learned that we're not necessarily who we think we are for all the people out there that, like every game we play against competition that we deem to be inferior should be things of beauty should just be like these three four five nil victories, where it's just like an art to watch. That's not that's not who we are it'll happen every once in a while, and then maybe you'll get your hopes up afterwards, but I mean, like people just need to measure the expectations. This is not, you know, Rinaldo Brazil. Yeah. And also guess repeated a result that I wrongly always go back to when I when I say, you know, about this team and the team's failings over the last two years. I mean Mexico. I watched the first half God past Martinique. So, you know. There we are. That's the nature of this Cup tournament. That's the nature, the standard teams you're playing, and I will say this. When we press when we really hassle teams and try and win the ball back. We are a much better team that is just factual. So there go six nil. Felt good. Glad you feel good. Yeah. I'm glad I feel good to we continue. Now. JJ elsewhere in the soccer world we go back to France in the women's World Cup as France. Ray Hass Brazil grit game. Yeah, it really was look Varvara. Var blah, blah, blah, blah. I, I don't know. Have to any more. I can't either. I'll just say that. I thought the decision to take away the first French goal was bizarre, but I've grown accustomed to that feeling in this tournament. And I, I guess, I would say was poetic Justice, if that's the right term for France to actually go on win this because it would have felt it would have felt Connell wrong for them lose on home soil on a questionable call. However, they've benefited from a couple. Questionable decisions to sure. So things typically do even out in the end. I guess my thing with this. I just wanted to mention Marta. This may probably will be her last World Cup. She still spoke afterwards about wanting to play in the Olympics. But she left the door open to that not necessarily being a thing that happened. So I should say in the Olympic hope she does might be it. Although if you look at for me get plan, a forty three maybe she wants to emulate that or maybe she just wants to focus on our club football. You don't know. Yeah, you don't but her speech afterwards right like right off the game. Right on the field. I've got it here. Can I read it? It was just it was inspiring. It's wanting more. It's training more. It's taking care of yourself more. It's being ready to play nineteen minutes plus thirty minutes. This is what I ask of the girls. There's not going to be a for me forever. There's not going to be a Marta forever does not going to be Christiane forever. The woman's game depends on you to survive. So think about that value. It more cry in the beginning. So you can smile at the end. Won't believable. Yeah. It really will absolutely unbelievable. She's, she's a character. Yeah. And she went on to say later on, because I think most people read that as a message to the, like, the, the female youth of Brazil, like keep this keep the of the sport for girls up. But she did say afterwards that it was also a message to some of her teammates that she expects more from why really? Yeah. Which I thought was pretty interesting. And kind of like if Marta saying that than like it's rather legend, telling you like you can do better. So do better. They were very, very good. But can I just because we've got this game looming the quarterfinal looming talk a tiny little bit of a front, so they are still playing within within themselves. Andrew day are a little bit clunky. It's not quite flowing and at times in second half. Brazil smelled blood I thought they were going to push on and actually crew causing upset bought they do have an area of the field, which the US are going to have to watch out massively go Wien had a very good game. She was the. Garden was ruled out for the opening goal. But scored later. Yes. Yeah, undeservedly. So because he ran, her socks off and had a permanent scowl the game was just not happening for her. But there we are Diani Andrew, the pace the scale. She's going to operate on the right hand side. So she is going to come up against crystal, Don and zone was tested slightly by Yacob sin. She's passed all her tests so far. This will be the toughest test on. I'm wondering because she made I thought she impressed me when she came in. Will Cascarino will start for France against the US. She is an absolute by tricks really, really skillful player there is going to be a lot of phone matchups. But I do think that that's going to be crucial. If that left hand side of the US defense can cope with Diani that is a really good indication that the US are gonna win the game. Yeah. Should be fun. And then the other game I wanted to mention was England Cameroon kinda mentioning it for the wrong reasons. I mean we know pretty much now. Everything that went on during the game. Cameroon players were. I rate with VAR decisions just refereeing in general there, captain lost it a couple of times there was they had hopefuls the referenda pushed at one point, it looked like they were prepared to, to strike not continue playing just constant turmoil. So. After the game. Phil Neville manager for England was asked about this, and he had some very interesting things to say here, he is I on the game in general for inland when against Cameroon. I didn't feel like football. I'm going to be on. No, I know we get these briefs about coming on TV and. And to say it was a good way and he wants to go to me play we played, okay? We push the ball. Well, we roof listening talk. We're ready to play Nicole to final. But I've got to say that, that wasn't football for me that wasn't a wheel sixteen into the behavior. I won't see from football is, you know, this is going out worldwide. An account Sunday say particularly enjoyed it plays into enjoy it half time. They were they were confused about the actions about what they should do the, the concentration fantastic did the job. But I just going out with by about how do I that's young girls playing all over the world. See not behavior to me. It's not right. Cat Sunday, say h tough steak, he's brilliant into the low sixty pitches final. There's a big a patriot is stunned of behavior that you've got to do my place and I'm proud. Here's more from him saying he's got no sympathy for Cameroon twice. Hammerings. Hammerings threatening to strike. How much sympathy, did you have with them during the much known known the rules rules first goal second goal? Was it? Los count on site with it. We, we know the rules, we've been spoken to three three hundred fifty thousand times by referees, less three weeks. We know the rules, the referee everyone. Right. If I think at the end, she took Picciotto thought we should about a penalty. We thought we should send know. So in the end not to they should count styles that he wasn't five and six the behavior was wrong behaviors wrong because it's the image of women's football. It's going out worldwide about team that comes to the side in Stein's refusing to play. And I'm proud of my players about the discipline and the belief that they had going out there and just playing the game of football. I'll let you go, first on this curious where you think of. Okay, so, so the part where the second part that you played where he begins by saying, you know, I don't think that behave right? I have no sympathy for them. The goal is the goal is the rules, the rules. I'm actually okay with that. Why he's dragging it back to like the sky is falling in this is the worst image for young girls around the world like that is such rank apocryphal from Phil Neville. I can't stand that it's as if he never played on. A manager, who routinely lost on the sideline in ceramics, Ferguson, who bought screened at officials like, was that the right way to act who had officials bullied by yet. Simple, top of his watch who was notorious as charming as the mine wasn't as brilliant, as the man was, he was also a bully was Phil Neville on the field. I think he was or he was either on the bench. The night that Roy Keane, shea st- Andy dorsal, the referee chased him Rone the field against Middlesboro got in his face screened in roared Darcheville will have to run backwards. I thought his hamstring's we're going to stop. Was he round for the I'm sure he was he was only young man watching it? The same as I was watching the Italian ninety World Cup the World Cup final where glazed threw themselves to the ground the, the tinian players. Screened in the referees, face disgraceful plays, the idea that we never talk about this in men's football. What about boof on this grit? How would you describe it doggone of men's football for the last twenty five years the way he acted in Champions League semi final, and afterwards the way he spoke about referee, like to, to put the back and the image of women's football square to put image of women's full squarely on the back of the way these Cameroon players acted as rank Apocrypha? It's nonsense now, I think it was Katie Margraaff on ESPN said that we see this kind of passion and stuff all the time in the men's game are in World Cups. We actually do. I've given you how many instances there when Phil Neville has seen it is he right? That they shouldn't have acted that way, actually think they needed to be calmer. They're upset was I don't think it was necessarily justify. But I even feel awkward saying that if you get upset you get upset that's it, but for fill to talk like that about the sky will fall in no for world. Because the world is watching this is not true. It's just not true. Yeah, I most I actually mostly agree with you. There's only a couple of things I think you're down playing a little bit. They're like the ratio of upset to agreed agreed justness of the decision. Like I, I don't know. I've seen decisions way. More agrees than some of these ones made by the ref with reactions that were way less than what you were seeing from the Cameron players. I think maybe some of that was the emotion of the moment getting to them a little bit like the back pass. I don't know to me that was kind of clear like the I don't think it right away players on the field with their hands up right away. I don't think she meant it. But when I watched it, I was like the rifts going to give that it's very hard for her to act to interpret the mind of, of the player like again. I don't wanna go over that one. 'cause I feel like that's been gone over again. And again, the off site. I mean marginal bought probably offsite. The look. I just think it's not that big a deal. They were they lost their heads. But we see it more often than we care to remember, afr- it for Phil Neville, just my last bit on him. Because you're right. Everything you're saying is true, how I would defend him is to say all those things that you mentioned I didn't involve him. So it's not total hypocrisies. He was doing those things signal. You don't know what he thinks of all those things when Roy Keane is Jason. Maybe he didn't like that either. But he just wasn't in a position to, to come out the house. The men's game dune Andrew since those in nineteen like, come on. But if we're talking about his opinions, but whatever the Nike never seen it before the mother, of course, he's not something. But the other thing with Neville, though, I don't think the way he felt was entirely based around how Cameroon players were treating the officials I think that his comments and you didn't hear in those quotes there, but he talked about it later, his comments were more about how the Cam. Players were treating his players. I think he was using this as an opportunity came, it came off the wrong way because it sounds like he's, he's denigrating the Cameroon players to build up his own players when he didn't need to do that. He could have just praised his players without tearing into Cameroon but he he's just come off this game, which was a highly emotionally charged World Cup round of sixteen match. And what's happened this game Tony Duggan get spit on? But ROY, which is terrible. And was at Steph Houghton who was on the receiving end. One of maybe best player on the receiving end of a vicious challenge late in that game when the score was decided. So now you're asking Phil Neville to come off the field in an emotional game. When those two things have happened his player and you're going to talk about it like I can understand why he would come out shots. Yeah. But I think he should just kept to what's going on. Like, for example, I am completely overly ashamed of the opposition is what he said after the game. And if he just went onto to clarify that and say, you know, the spitting. The elbows. That's not right. You can't have that in the gamble. Why he had to saddle the Cameroon team with the future was he was emotional about everything that okay? Well, they were mostly to. We were all writing. That's what World Cups, do they elicit emotion from people. Let's see. We'll get to Lee Ryder in just a sec for discussion on Newcastle. Rough Benitez BA I, I do wanna talk about Argentina Copa America. They get past Qatar to nil. They are winners in that game still was not a thing of beauty for them. And I'm curious about this because I'm starting there's a narrative that is starting to get pushed a little bit. And that is this whole Lio Messi, is he? I feel sick and disgusting using the word problem is he the problem with Argentine this up last week. We said he isn't. But here's the thing, Tim Vickery, raises the point that there's been a consistent conflict between the way the teams managers plural want to play and the personnel that they have on the roster. I'm just gonna read you a little section here from his article victory writes the following he Schal Oni announced his bold strategy for Argentina to build a team that was quick on the transitions using two wingers and playing the boss swiftly into wide spaces, but there was a huge problem which became apparent when Argentina's best player return to international duty messy. The idea does not Findlay, no messy, one of the wingers would have to be sacrificed, destroying the overall plan. Schiavone was aware of this, when messy came back to the fold for a friendly against Venezuela in March the coach tweaked his system. He played three centrebacks along them have to attacking wingback, who would supply that with the problem was that it's Argentina's centrebacks were unable to defend against the strength of Solomon, Rondon and the pace of Venezuela. Winger's so Schiavone returned to his original idea, one he knew would not work with messy and the outcome was the opening day defeat against Colombia since then under the pressure of a major tournament. He's been trying to dig himself out of a whole. Yeah. I am curious for your philosophy on this should managers, conform to what they have or should true, footballers be able to succeed in more than just one system with that, that depends because I think there are systems that are universal that, like we've seen how quickly both merchant Tino and I'm not talking about finishing second or third leagues. And, and being Shamsi fines. I mean go back to win Pocchettino Klopp, both came in at Spurs Liverpool respectively. And how quickly they could get what they had in front of them to play a certain way it was, it was pretty quick. But, like, for example, if you're looking to play a certain style that demands things that player is incapable, capable of are delivering either physically or. Mentally. So say for example, it beyond probably Peter coach to play a front for Liverpool impress in that certain way. Then you've got to, to cut your cloth to suit, your measure bit more and not look a pep when he came into Manchester City Andrew. He didn't have the full box. He wanted to play that system. What did he do? He went any bought them. So that's a guy who's saying I to do that in the international game. Correct. So you in the international game you often see it on. I mean it was Sam Allardyce is, you know, if Saimaa was going to manage England for longer than one game people would criticize his style of play, and he would say, all, I don't have the players the best way to play. We I heard it regularly for Martin O'Neill at Arlen. You heard it from your kinsman at the US. So then you've got to tweak what your principles are the like the style you like to play to suit the players. You've got available and that is being the challenge for his. Empower Lee on no, for Schiavone at Argentina know even for chichi at Brazil, you're accommodating players a lot of the time. Now thankfully, Cheech it doesn't have name are so he can. But even still it doesn't always work. It's. It's tough. It really is a my view is that. You've got to do what works best for the collective on messy. You don't want to isolate them, but what are you supposed to do? It's like it's not working when you try and accommodate them for me. It's, it's almost getting to a point where I look at the Argentina managerial position and I almost view it now is the least desirable job in the world, because like just reading that from Tim Vickery, you are so damned if you do damned if you don't like, okay let's play a style that suits messy. But now my, my centrebacks are going to be put into a position that they just can't be trusted in. So let's go back to doing what I wanna do. We'll now I'm kind of not utilizing the best player in the world to his abilities. I, I don't know what he's supposed to do at this point durum member last year going into the World Cup. What the one of the biggest talking points mean you had was. And I think we had Tim Vickery on who explained to us how messy Hikari into Bala, like some some poli had spent. The entirety almost of the friendlies between D end of qualifying, which they barely got through and the start of the World Cup trying to figure out a, a formation that would allow him to play those three players. It's it, it is very, very tough. And also as while we went through the team NAS weekend. A lot of the players just aren't that good. So how do you accommodate the greatest player in the world would players who are money, ruins below minced? It's tricky tell you what JJ. Let's do this now. Shows. JJ back go in the club now. Because Newcastle is in the news. It's unbelievable sought this morning come across Twitter. I'm we'll never have Lee writer on when it's good news site, the relegations our managers leaving. I know it's sad Rafa Benitez will not be returning as the club's manager Lee Ryder, the chief Newcastle writer for the chronicle joins the pod now to discuss Lee, what's up man? How are you? Yeah. Well I'm not bought. It's been a busy day, but as much old paw the job. And you tonight, sadly. Yes. Yeah. Still protests that something on this. Yes. So I guess the news today for anybody that hasn't seen get as of June, thirtieth Rafa will no longer be Newcastle's manager, the sense that I get is that it's disappointing but not necessarily surprising. Is that accurate? Not, you know, being feeling probably to this football eighty meeting. Nobody here is most Clive nothing people hungry, because. Sitting radiation, Russell spell, it out many times when he won't Eighty-one fishing uk-us hall to kept telling them what you really side, the, he'll when you kind of almost Cole time on the Asian meaning today, because I understand rough has, you know, still maybe entry way to say if who knows my, my two months, and you know what we're going to give you that extra fifteen million quit to spend on, on another strike was pulling up, but you pull on it. They run patience and here we all going to preseason public's away. No manager. The aid scon- in the space of a month from potential new billionaire ownership to not talk of the takeover on Rafa gone. And is there any news on what has stole dot takeover on? What's his state of play with that? And you still does Mike has another big. When I don't Mike e. Too many of them out, you know defunct and then he caught by off himself and you've gotta wait for bait. Through the hub Paja. Enough to talk has been to stay. Yes, but it's being no money. So they have to you know, you have to wait and he will about because. Dr Donal ready for. The haven't Hsun full fellow the all convincing communists, by the club, or you do all of it become do that. Realistically voting precede, nobody get cracking go to move on, because, you know, the klu could it be litigation in terms of in on June as well. In terms of this break-up, I know you referenced it before, but this was was this entirely about the, the clubs and Bishen in terms of what they were gonna make vailable to him in transfer funds. Or was there any issue with his personal contract as well? Nothing never of any problem with a pistol trucks, Ruffo, would it be colori the best football we've ever hot? There was every money for him cuss words. Concerned about paying the money for the problem was the concept. I didn't think it was going to be sufficient to you cost challenging for the top ten would probably be another scrub vision. New cover them with the rough. Here we go to talk to the Utah about relegation I'm we're, we're, we're only at Wrigley day last week in June in terms of the fines, you're on the ground, there is there, a sense that there's going to be protests right through beginning in preseason. Well, I think this being you know, there was talk of a plan pro s tonight, you know, don't think too many of to end up at the moment because I think the feeling for me what I can still got it from other people is, it's more feel of opportunity. Now, you know, we'll, we'll hot ongoing, my gosh. Now what you think people's in, in trying to drain all the phonology as we haven't got off of any any bowl. What was the point in continuing, but I said, new customers in the team so much little eleven players put on the shirts. You know, the fact is probably still be fifty thousand two up on the first game the seat, that's the way it's being the pasta whether changes this time will win, but you find your live the football so much. You know, nobody has going, it must have massive blow. But they'll see who comes in. We'll save it sedation Condit will say if they can get some results and then go from that, you know, it's, it's rough, but as you know, enjoyable chop to the cloak, but it's not the end of, you know, they've gotta have hope you know, something can change kind of a new older kinda knew bringing success. So it's gonna change. We've very early in the process of this news is still kind of settling with people, but who are the, the early candidates to replace him. The only con to, to, to replace it all up seen the movie, the one let's put it another way, the one, not impressed me. The most is probably RIC Vieira young so Monica Munnich in the United States. My gin. Be monitoring fronts. You had a very good understanding of munches to see when it came through the wrong stay. So the familiar name could tensely you know, come onto that respect what, which is what it's going to be needed. Hey for me is a winner if he can push on. And you know, get things. Buck on an even keel at Newcastle. Get a few Williamsville Monica him. Not even these post game against all go by the way, primarily fixture-list win. But, you know, I mean some silly name linked with it, you know about dot onto good up. He'll bookies field it when they but. Yeah. The minute, I think whoever could go must of job to follow rough as realistically cloak of, you know, the be silent for two months. They've now what are not wanna go deliver. And then last, but not least I guess the other side of that, cone, what I know China has been mentioned. What is the, the expectation for where Rafa goes next? I think it is off. To get into a big job in football is definitely a lot of young. Montijo. My win in my way of sucking firmly, you might have time off now could China probably not believe he wants to be out this career. I think those death for, I think he is one of the top jobs, baby, the premise again, we'll have to wait and sale. Not think he'll be Kathy plunged next when Chelsea love it. Go wouldn't surprise if you end up to find like a lot also is the people within the full Chelsea, they life off of his, and they could live a tool of. So, yeah, I think he's going to Jovan. Definitely interesting stuff Lee uncertain times in the northeast. Once again, I think the next time we call a lease going to have you on a happier. Occasion, not relegation and not wrath leaving the thanks for taking the time to look. Thanks guys. All of his interesting to hear Patrick Vieira's name mentioned. This is the progression. He would like them. Sure. Because ultimately, he would want to manage in the Premier League whether that comes to soon. I don't know. But it's a name, I haven't heard it's just amazing to me that here. Newcastle are and they have almost like stumbled their way into having this manager. Who's like had so much. He's wanna Champions League. And he was willing to go down with you into the championship and bring you back and you have found a way to bungle it, and he's not looking for more money to line his contract. They agree like the contract terms were done. He wants to make your team better own believable. It's so it's just a not a Newcastle fan. I don't dislike Newcastle. I love their fan base. I think it's a great football city. It's so easy to see. Why Mike Ashley is hated by this fanbase. How about this for new quesion? Don't give Rafeh bonito's. What he wants to make this team successful do give Alan Pardew an eight year contract. Eight years. I mean it's easy to sit here and yellow, but, like if you're not willing to do, what it takes to keep rough Benitez at your club by giving them. I don't think Benitez is asking for the world. He's not saying I want to get this team at a champion. He wants to become a top eight club. He wants to see progress for new cast literally finish with the same results as the season before they are. No in the point where it's either go up or fall back down again. And they've like they've been they've been relegation fodder for so many years into raft. Sell the team and sell the team. What are you doing? It's just so easy for me to, to see. Why fans would would hate him to be honest now on the managerial merry merry go round. We thought we'd have an announcement on Frank Lampard to give you to Chelsea. We don't have that, although the rumors are it is happening. They're trying to greet terms. There's compensation to be paid. Although I've heard something wild today from a decent source that derby were prepared to pay Frank Lampard, ten million a year to keep him at Derby County in the championship. Andrew. Now, Roy Keane? Would he say no to that? That's the interesting thing ten million a year. What he take less money to take some of the money and say, hey expend half. Give me five and spend the other fly via players get this team into. Yeah. No. On the merry go round, Roy Keane is left, Nottingham Forest mutual all amicable. So he's no longer to be assistant knee Lamar Nottingham Forest because he wants job is he positioning himself for the derby job, if Franklin park goes or a some wogs on Twitter suggesting is positioning himself for the director of football job at Old Trafford. Whoa. Wait and see Jim white on talksport was stirring, the pot with that one. He suggested that Old Trafford needs Roy Keane bike, could you imagine the face on Jesse lingered, and Paul Papa when ROY Mogg won't be there to experience it. But yes, some of these young players on that team. Yeah. You'd question is have you been seeing some of the Instagram videos of like Lynn guard and rash Verne on vacation? What do you think Roy Keane makes of some of that is being outside of the whims World Cup that stories being the biggest story of the last week? I, I mean, Roy Keane would not have that I think opera football men thinks very little of them posting all this on. So, I think it was in Illinois, clearly lead voice video, but I've there's worse things happened in the world. I think we've gone too far simulating a sex act on piddle and it wasn't even him. It was his friend. Let's see what to watch for JJ women's World Cup quarter-finals Norway in England Thursday three o'clock and. Then the big one, of course that we are all most interested in Friday, three PM France. And the United States that should be a lot of fun. That's probably your marquee game of the tournament. Really? The top two favorites in the quarterfinals Gold Cup Wednesday night. Nine o'clock USA in Panama US are through to the next round. So I'll be curious to see what bear halter does with the squad if you continue to go with his first team to get these guys, you know, building chemistry or if he does a little rotation here that will have to wait and see. And then Copa America Friday, three o'clock, Argentina, and Venezuela Venezuela, who has given Argentina hard time Venezuela, who suddenly looks like a like a player in South American football. That will be very, very interesting one to watch Venezuela truly on the rise where they can take down Argentina, major tournament or Argentina finding themselves at the right time. We will have to wait and see also are people gonna have to wait and see. They wanna know what our pod shedule is for the rest of the week. I'll be honest. I actually don't know. Right now. You put me on the spot. I hit doing that. Yeah. I don't know. Starting to see sweat patches on that shirt. What do you thinking? I don't know. All right. Do we do Wednesday that we do Friday? Do we do not do Wednesday? Just go into Friday recap. I don't know. Look at you. The curtain has never been pulled back further that we're letting people inside that thought process. Yeah. We got we have to really think about this. We don't want to let people down, you are in the perfect stressed costume to do a stress thinking session on. But what we should wrong about the shirt. Yeah. I'm not saying it's my best. I don't think much of the shirt, but you've got it positioned in just a really weird place that I don't know about. Okay. Well, hey, this was fun. Then it's been a good couple of days for US soccer. The men and the women things are turning conceal it the era of good. Feelings is back now that was a thing that happened in this country. Hey, this was fun to you. I say. Sia ticket. Listening to coughs. I've sucker podcast.

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Greg Vanney lays out Galaxy vision! McKenzie's $6M transfer + Molino to Crew (sorry Loons)

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Greg Vanney lays out Galaxy vision! McKenzie's $6M transfer + Molino to Crew (sorry Loons)

"You're listening to extra time driven by continental you feeling for that matter. I feel a lot. Better bob extra. I'm missing psychic. How i find out what's going on in the mls got lost that lawsuit. Maybe this podcast isn't me a little bit as well because of the experts from down everybody here. Every single day goes into the office into the laboratory to try to cook up some great stuff for you guys swine from kansas city missouri. You are listening to extra-time driven by continental from my basement. I'm injury with my partners in soccer. David goss mattdoyle. Welcome back to youtube folks. We were not there on monday. We never informed you of that and that was a mistake as are mentioned on twitter were filled with a frigging video. And it wasn't there so if you want to watch it on youtube and you thought maybe we were done with that. We are not. We are back big. Show today greg. Vanney is going to join us. We're gonna talk about the coaching carousel. Which now has one additional. Open seat because dig alonzo should have just trusted. His gut unknown that his job wasn't fact not his job as it turns out. They have parted ways by mutual consent. Which i thought what they did before but turns out. They did it now. I don't know we have a lot to talk about free. Agency player signings the us national team. That sort of thing. But i think we have to start in one place and that is what is on the mind. I'm sure of all of us every waking minute of the day right now. Our democracy is under attack. I don't think there's any other way to put that one of the things about the soccer community in this show that i've been most proud of over the years To be a part of it to Have an opportunity to speak to people that i don't know our do know twice a week Is that we have not shied away from what matters most which is Life the pursuit of freedom of happiness of our rights and right now the images coming out of washington. Dc and particularly images on wednesday are terrifying. They're disturbing there was a rightist mob. Invading our capitol building. Trying to and failing at i should add to disrupt the transfer of legal and free elections and the transfer of power and they're incited by a president and that is both as i said horrifying and depressing so just know as we talk about what we love. What entertains us. And what provides a diversion from all the things in life that can be scary And that soccer. That we are thinking about that. And i am thinking about that. I can't speak for both of you and saying we. But i know i am thinking about that every second of this show. So that's where we stand. We hope you're doing okay. We hope you're dealing with the well. Talk to your friends. Talk to your family. Take a break if you need to in. I hope that this will be a break for you i. I don't have anything else to say. I think i was rambling a little bit there. That i i think. I think it's time to you spell well for us. I think that As you said it's time to let let's be a little bit of a distraction in gets get the people some of our brand of insanity rather than the horrid chilling type of insanity that we saw in washington dc on wednesday and wouldn't you know that brand of insanity is basically obsessing about every nook and cranny of major league soccer and an a new bit. Bobby's gone so we can do. Bits producing unders reminder for the day is that we leave time for the mail bag so set those stop watches after we go through everything else. We will give it at least five minutes. That is my promise to produce an honors and that is my promise to listeners out there and actually we'll just start with some mail because we asked for new year's resolutions for the show and you delivered of course. Marcus aurelius rightous. Which is a hell of a twitter. Handle their says. Put your money where your mouth is a homegrown. Fantasy league has to happen on extra time. I could not agree more. Get your whiteboards out right now. it's time to brainstorm. It's time to figure out how we do this. We won't do it in this moment but we will try to. At least begin. The conversation do set the rules for the inaugural hashtag. Play your kids draft my suggestion off the top. It has to be a keeper league and transfer fees have to be involved. So if you picked up mark mckenzie like three years ago and you waited on it. You waited on it. Maybe didn't get that many points off the jump and then last year was a big year for you but then you had a six million dollar transfer to gank you should just be duncan on everybody so i think it should be a keeper league. I think it should be five players per season given that it is a keeper league and it should accumulate over time and there should be some balance between week-to-week points whether that be for performances or team performance whether it's attacking or defending or midfielder goalkeeper. Whatever and then there should be a big bonanza at the end for transfer money. How do we do this. How should we do this. Does this peak your interest. The way of peaks mine go. I said go so much. Yeah definitely be way interests. I think you had a breakdown position. Even if it's five. I don't think you can require goalkeeper teams. Just don't play homegrown. Mls goalkeepers much. outside of that. I'd say you have to have a split defender midfield attack. How do you calculate the money into its own is a a category thing where it's like. Who had most shots on their team. Who generated the most transfer fee I think that this is probably a many year accumulation of points. I don't think that this it's like you might win. At the end of twenty twenty one you might win twenty twenty one but you know that in the you know. It's there's a long game to be played here and it's an ever evolving table. That's my opinion. It never goes back to zero. You're always trying to build on. Because it is a keeper league. The other thing i would say is that there has to be an age limit. You can't go. Drafting bill hamid. You can't go drafting life. Homegrown j. heard yet. While you can't go draft jordan morris. You know what i mean like. Oh well he's part of my inaugural keeper draft like Doesn't count more. It's the player kids draft. In my opinion. They have to be twenty two hundred twenty two eligible to be drafted doyle. Anything how do you keep them. If they see a guy on your do you have them forever. You have them forever but you have to have had faith in them when they were quote unquote kids i. I'm just saying now. You have a good flow you guys keep talking about. It just doesn't interest. Maybe just trying to find a way to get his. Brian reynolds mistake to pay out for him in the end by doing this picking what he's fifteen. My guy doesn't matter if you make draft pick accidentally if you make draft you get all the credit going forward it pains me a hurts me toil that. You're not as interested in intrigued by this as i am i. It just seems like another stretchy to to keep track of home. That's a lot man. That's what producing unders is here for. Can y- boso. Anders is going to keep track of everything he says exactly in the chat right now. He said exactly he is committed. That is a contractual commitment to entertain the spreadsheet forever for each draft pick. We should be required to do a sketch of the person. So he's acknowledging who he thinks it is their identification and their name. We can't just say name 'cause then we're going to end up with a six weeks later we'd like pick that guy. I'm sure i picked back up. So that's the only thing we set the rules. If you wanna make that a rule that's fun down to parlay here. We'll figure it out if you have a recommendation your four o. One zero six zero mls. I had the phone number exactly right there. Extra minimalist soccer dot com. Look whoever would have taken mark mckenzie as i sat or maybe brennan aaronson that would have been a big time for them if this existed in years past. The deal is official with gang for mark. Mckenzie as first reported by jonathan tannen walled the goalkeeper on twitter as my brain always thinks of him a tom. Boettger has some additional details here. Tommy scoop cinema. Soccer dot com. The union are going to receive a fee in the region of six million dollars. According to tom bogert there's a sell on percentage and add ons as well from gang Yeah this is This is big. I think it went official this morning. So it is done done done. What do you make of this doyle for mark. Mckenzie a. first and then we'll talk about the trickle down for the union mcgann is launching pad. They if you look at the types of players that they've put into Some of the biggest clubs in the world in the biggest leagues in the world. This is i mean. It's almost like they are the exact type of team that the union are aspiring to be They are kind of in the same mould as rb salzburg which is where brennan said wet. So it makes a lot of sense from both the unions model of what they're trying to get to as i mean just a talent producing juggernaut and it makes sense for mark mckenzie because genk are really incentivize to play their young players And he is. I think the third largest transfer outlay ever which tells you what they think of him. They think he's really really good. And on top of that they play a three four three. They played with three centrebacks. So there is kind of extra room in there for mackenzie to start earning minutes. Probably right it just checks every box. Belgium's a good league It scouted heavily It is very much a stepping stone but it is a a sensible stepping stone in a in a real way. I like these types of transfers. More than i like seeing a player. Go to like a low end primarily team because the low end of the primarily. You're not playing soccer. You just trying to survive. You're just trying to stay up and not get relegated in that. Takes a certain type of skill set And i do hope that it's one that mark mckenzie eventually develops because i think that as a fall playing center back. He's better at the ball playing part in the center back part But going to gang he will get to hone that ball playing part even more and that will put him on. I think in terms of his talent that will put him on the radars of the teams in the top half of the premier league or syria or lollygag or the bundesliga. So that when he does eventually move to a top five league really a top four league. I think In that move as long as he stays healthy that type of moves inevitable. He is not going to have to go to eighteen That bunkers kicks along and just tries to survive. He's going to be able to go to a team that plays soccer. So i like every box check. Check check check. Good good business by the union. really good careerstep for the kid himself and i'm excited to see Whether or not he hits the ground running. I suspect that he will. Yeah it's exciting to doyle's point gang second in the league right now so they play to win. They've been competitive. I think they're pretty deep in the cop. So you've got that on top of these. Sales has been a really strong connection for them over the last few years Napoli are leverkusen. So these are the types of clubs. You're talking about in two years. That mackenzie could be going to and to what doyle said. This is t club that's built on that in gang so there's no well he's actually good for us. Where competitive. No they want him out the door for as much as they can get right after this and so that's the point of what's happening. They also brought in colombian centreback this window as well for i think they're second highest third-highest outlay ever so this is a club and they all have already have three colombian centrebacks on their rosters. All three of their starters colombian centrebacks In like two of those reported to be like massive transfer target for the likes of napoli atalanta. Sorry stepped on you. No so that. That's what this club is built for. And that's the opportunity that mackenzie is gonna get. And so it's if i guess the one reactions from some fans as i want to see him in that big league. I want to see him for a team. I know this is the best place for him to go to. Actually he'll get there eventually. And if you're talking about guys that are in his position or playing around him that are being scattered at the level that they are that is only good for mark mckenzie both from a competitive competition standpoint but also from a scouting standpoint. Like you hear all the time. I was watching this guy. But it's at this one that i want you want is on you. You wanna be putting an opportunity to be successful the thing about mark and it's one of my favorite interviews that we've done in a long long time was that you just knew from talking to him that he wasn't going to jump at the first flashy thing it wasn't gonna be like oh celtics in bam. I'm gonna try to force. The deal has to happen now. I'm impatient needs to to be now now. Now you could tell from the way he had talked about it and also by the way the union of talked about it and done their business. Here you know rb leipzig and brennan aaronson other good example that they're thinking in a more long-term late not only in the cell on percentage but in the perception for future players. Because you wanna have the guys that keep making the jumps to the people. Keep coming back to your well because they know that the potential is there and also by the way the you know the incoming money is going to be there for them when they sell the player. So i think all around. It's just been a banner year for the union. I mean everything that they wanted to be in twenty twenty now into the first part of twenty twenty one. They are a team that wins their first trophy. The when's supporters. shield has sustained. Excellence at the. I team level doing it with their kids but also with veteran players and tam players and players and then selling for the most money ever to home groans in aaronson and mckenzie. I mean if you're if you're sugarman if you're richie graham if you're if you're jim curtin if you're certainly ernst tanner who was brought in to do this exact thing you have to right now sit back and just revel in it just a little bit but also know that it's going to be the next steps are just as hard right like you. Don't just turn out brennan. Aaronson mark mckenzie's every single year without doing something right. You gotta keep doing those things right to keep you in the team. You wanna be. I i gotta say of of that list of names rattle off i. I'm pretty sure the least psyched about has got to be jim. Kurt players. you might lose kyw wachner too. Because there's a lot of interest in him I volunteer the bundesliga or two bundesliga's top tier the This is going to be like. He's probably wondering like ok. Where's my dp number. Ten to replace brendon. Whereas you know back there plays mark. But that's not the way the union do it. It's gonna have like it really looks to me like it's going to have to come from within And it's like. This is yet another test for jim. Kerr in at. It's going to be very very interesting to see how he how he approaches this one. So can i. My understanding was they signed glass. Notice to be the replacement before mark left is that does that rings. The rings true to me. Yeah i mean they still have gluttonous in elliott. Which i think is a really good. Yeah they think elliott's molest starter and glass on says a tam guy yeah kellyann is better than the gluttonous But look if. I'm jim curtin. Actually you know yeah. Do i lose two great players. Sure but if i was jim curtin two years ago. I might be a little nervous but jim curtain. Two years ago. Jim curtin terms of job. Security and personal confidence and ambition is a little bit different. If i'm jim curtin now i'm looking around saying you know after what he told us on this show that he does have aspirations to one day managing europe. I'm saying this was exactly what i wanted to happen. Ultimately for my long term goals has a pretend zoo perhaps something outside the union and even within the union because if what they want is exactly this and that's what. I helped deliver as head coach in the developer of this talent. I mean that's you know that's gold stars all around for me so but now the challenge is very real you were supporters shield winners last year said on a resolution show be ready for perhaps a drop off. Well now. jim curtains new challenge. Which hasn't been there before. What do you do to follow up that historic season without two of the players. That fueled it. How do you bring more of those players through from your academy. And he has a special relationship from that academy through the i team which we so. Congratulations to mark mckenzie. First of all. And congratulations the philadelphia union. Absolutely love to see it. I do have to mention the brian reynolds thing even when you guys were trolling me on it. A little bit is it. Uvais is at roma is at club. Bruges what will happen. We don't know but it seems that it will happen. It's just a matter of time in this window. We will hold off on really digging into this one Until it actually happens because without specifics it's hard to Have really informed conversation so. Keep your eyes on. Brian reynolds and fc dallas. Don't gotta keep your eyes on. Kevin malino anymore. He is a columbus crew pyre. I'm backing up. I'm backing up arrangement. Actually you should be be beckham over me. He needs to be in minnesota. It's where he plays best spiritual everything in his power to play from minnesota running andrew as well. I did not like i don't know three weeks ago. Basically begged him to stay. But what i did it really think at that time. Was that a team coming off a championship with the level investment. That they had made in a lot of places on the team over the last year and a half in the columbus crew would have the space. Yeah to go. Get kevin malino. I personally. I really think that that would be possible. Honestly because it has to be a tam deal. It was reported that he's not gonna make basically what is the maximum that he could make as a free agent. That's from the athletic. Look again that. The max max because it keeps you under the going over so it's six fifty or whatever that number is which keeps you under that tanto. I think the point was columbus. Has the safety alexa. Yes alexis very interested in in kevin windows free agent signing with columbus. What's alexa saying. Yeah yeah we'll continue this conversation. I'm jacked for hot boy. This is awesome. Robot relaxant is a- as alexa subscribed yet or is she just listened for free not padding stats. You'll even having struggle over the last few days. And i'm pretty sure they've started to tap me because they know what i know and everyone knows what i know which is this. Columbus crew is one of the few teams that has the luxury to give kevin malino guaranteed years because they can take that risk because without him there. Mls cup winning team. It's the same roster that just one for them so if he's not starting on the wing it's an mls cup goals tarik cohen or a former young ep and louis or of santos or they can fight him inside whatever to they have the luxury to go and do this and what's awesome for columbus. They can win. Mls cup without him but if they have him they can win cc. l. And that's the difference for this team is the same with wp. Their ceiling is already high. There floor is super high. Now you're able to go out and get these luxury pieces to take you to another level and that's why this moves awesome and it seemed like having malino was kind of ready for something new which hopefully fingers crossed. He's healthy and it works out. For how using doyle because it is a little crowded in there with diaz and with santos and was all around it feels like there are set starters because that's almost cup winning team so if you're kevin malino who in minnesota and this is partially why said stay would have been like shining guiding light. You're kinda now part of the crew No pun intended She's i actually didn't mean to do that. He he's if he's healthy and he's playing anything like he did last year during the stretch. Run into the playoffs then. He's the starter no disrespect to derrick. At the end santos luis diaz all of whom have proven to be really good players. Winning teams kevin molina's better than any of them But this gives kayla porter now that the flexibility to rotate And to keep guys fresh to be sort of like matchup dependent can also slide either santos or malino inside a little bit and play his number. Ten arrests zella riaan different style number ten. Obviously but you play a little bit more counterattacking little more linear but those two guys. It's a great signing from columbus and i just want to point out the is david got the pwb who was the league leader in goals and assists per ninety during the regular season and they got malino who was a belief second overall in goals and assists the during the postseason at really really good off-season from tim. Best pachenko and kayla porter And luckily with. I kind of tossed this out maybe six months ago. Like what would you trade for garth lager way what would you trade for tim best pachinko because these two guys have their team's going deep into the playoffs every single year. They're able to refresh the rosters. They're able to get guys like zella riaan or like they're also able to go further down the budget list. An ad guys you know like a like a kevin malino Or like a gel polo. So this has been just a masterclass of in eighteen months from pachinko. It's an mls cup winning Roster that has only just gotten better Which is spectacular if you're a crew fan and it's absolutely what they deserve as a fan base given what they did in two thousand seventeen twenty eight you also have to give some shine to pat onside. Who i'm sure had some handedness and also i would say about timbers pachinko obviously garth lago is. Tim also has something. Which is the president tag. He is helping to stadium built in columbus. He is helping as you said. Sort of erase the memories and the scars that were there from that saved the crew process. So yeah this is huge. The crew are nasty. I am so excited to see this. Go down. I am a little heartbroken. That i won't give a bellow. And kevin molina together but broken as adrian heath maybe should be. Yeah say that's actually the more interesting aspect of this because it's a no brainer for columbus whereas with minnesota this has to be gut wrenching because what what a- bello in malina were able to do during the playoffs was a damn near unprecedented. It just in terms like chance after chance after chance match-winner by the way without a forward so that and now kevin we know goes josse in in front of him. He's probably just like i'm about to go. Fifteen and fifteen. Yeah his level of with his confidence levels. He's like fifteen and fifteen so for minnesota. We saw i dunno roman. Goes back to that left side clearly. It's not his best position what we've seen his ceiling. Mls now and it's been good. Anything finley can probably you know you're going to win games with him as a starter. Sounds like they're going to try. And get louisa maria back at centre forward but they probably need to make a dp signing and the point was kevin molino was playing like dp but not paid one. Now you probably have to find a way to get greg use down and get another. Vpn to help abella and if you don't this is still a good team and it's a team with a pretty high ceiling if they're on four or it comes back and gets healthy but the flip here is in the works. You had a steel and malino. When he was healthy you lost him now. You probably have to go out. And spend for the production of molina. Tv get it from thomas so who don't even don't even get minnesota. I don't even get loon. Supportive started on that right definitely picked up for them. Way can have a decent season for taro. But i'm sure by the way breaking news. Bust out the roger espinoza jersey. My guy backing kansas city where he belongs. Also congratulations roger on the engagement. We to talk about that too much. We will though talk about see jesse rogers engagement party and i haven't got an invitation yet but roger. If you're listening. I well i guess address. Don't say your address on the show. I'm not going to not listen. Roger knows my address okay. I texted to him. I haven't yet. But i might Okay let's talk about austin see when peach. Poach the captain. Excuse me my beasley. Did his whole matthew mocatta. Hey voiceover video where he was probably like. Did he like rent that massive truck for the occasion. No map layer is very much a massive truck. Guy he's headed austin. So is shockingly still twenty-five dig goumas pointers a free agent free agent means you have to play five years. Mls he's done that twice. He's done that twice while he was signed. Fourteen or fifteen. So i mean i remember when he was signing review till seventeen though but he was signed. It doesn't matter like he was on contract with clay. I think really tell us same. Same can set the parameters and park and really shut the door on. What do we think because this comes on the heels of another free agency. Well re entry draft where houston went and snatched. Joe corona from under us knows which was very interesting pretty funny in my opinion Boniek garcia is out of contract. If austin wants to return that and hit him in free agency but for goon dez in beasley to off. See doyle good signings. Just for the record figuring does made his debut as a sixteen year old back way. Back in twenty. Eleven yet i mean beezer probably at that game by the way i was definitely add some red bulls games where he scored a couple of goals. And that was my revs days where i was working as a club ambassador. The new revolution while Beasley cooked to me over the past two years. But he's got a pedigree he's got a sweet left-foot Julio day in particularly this. The new fellow who i've only seen clips of it. But he he looks like a young large very athletic center back. And you could see that working next to Ah veteran like visa league and maybe has to be a little more conservative with with positioning so it seems like a a worthwhile flyer to take given the makeup of the squadron given that You know maybe this could be for beasley Atlanta was from michael. Parkhurst gave him those two or three extra years right at the tail end of his career and he's a similar type of player in a lot of ways. So i understand that one. And i like it The one has way more upside because he's only twenty five and we have seen him play absolutely brilliant soccer throughout the in real small patches throughout his decade-long emma's career. I think he's best or should be best as a as an inverted attacking winger He hasn't played that spot very much. Over the past couple of years for new england there are about a million other lingers on that roster already. so he's going to have his work cut out for him and maybe they will in fact use him as more of an eight which is what bruce arena used in the past couple of years And where joe cronin was supposed to play. So this is a chance for for maybe nailed down a larger role for a team. That clearly has some ambition. But it's also very much. A reclamation project is not michael parker with or maps with two more years less than like bisi vm. Recapture some of the old magic kind of boss. The back line a little bit and organiz things. This is like okay. It two years diego fernandez is going to be not even two years in eighteen months. Diego is still going to be an equality. Mls player who gives real minutes to a good team or diego fernandez going to be in us l. Because the his trajectory over the past three years says he's going to be in the us l. sooner or later see Will he. He didn't talk. I don't know because not being a starter. I think is different than not being on. Mls he went from thirty starts in two thousand eighteen. Thirteen starts in two thousand nineteen to two nine starts in twenty twenty year role progressively diminished as the team. Got better but a new guy took over and brought in to play his position or three. If you want to so like part of that is on him but part of that is on the situation. Which i don't know that awesome will be much easier but one of the things i like and as doyle went through his flexibility because austin still is to deep spots you don't know when they're going to get done. It's a weird year. All that stuff he can play in three or four different ways just wolf in an interview yesterday mentioned as a false nine as well so in their mind. They're looking at a guy who's coming in and can play in a bunch of different positions so that they can have some flexibility to fill whether it's time flexibility or positional flexibility around him. Which i think is interesting and it's exciting. He's only twenty five. Yes look this is a statement worthwhile. It's worthwhile flyer. he's younger. Wanda was before wando actually broke out and became an analyst regular so like crazy stuff can happen in this league and we all think that he has. He has the talent to be a really really good player in mls. He hasn't shown that over the last couple of years. And it's a smart gamble. Hoover an expansion team. I just just to take that flyer and see what happens. I also think the beasley thing is smart. It may not be necessarily that. He is michael parker in the sense that he is now sort of like. Hey this is the rock defensively for us. He sets the tone he plays basically every game. He wins us in. Mls cup sort of expansion situation. But if you're looking at conti who was never really caught hold in this league and this new guy coming in who better to have within the group if his expectations are not that i'm a thirty four game guy to help guide that process along to be a complementary piece to be like the brain that you can come to say. Tell me how to deal with this situation or tell me how to deal with. This particular player matt beasley. Is that sort of guy. And he is in my in my opinion my experience with him. And i think that you've seen that in kansas city overtime. That's a good guy to have on expansion roster to help set a culture but also to help the guys around him. You also probably set yourself up still where you if you wanted to. They could still probably get a taste centreback because of what you're spending on a free agent and what you bring with beasley and he's a domestic. Gives you even more flexibility. Which i agree with you. You've got three centre backs right now that you can rotate through. That's enough. but if they decide that maybe he doesn't have the legs. We thought he have. Whatever it is. You still probably have roster flexibility to bring in a bigger guy over him if you and the coaching staff josh wolff kansas city when he first came into the league now same deal. So there's a lot of familiarity between those guys look guarini signs another good centreback. You just go get them right. So we'll see what happens with with austin but looks like two good signings for them. This is predictable. Speaking of new england aged ila garza from inter miami to new england and free agency to reunite with bruce arena. Just feels like a good a good signing for them again. A good flier. If he's healthy he can play a number of different positions. Bruce trust him he's not going to be the starter but he can fill in if tatum buchanan's starting right back for this team and mls team that needs a ride back needs to trade for brandon by. He's not a stud but he's a starter and mls and that's an opportunity for another team all right. We'll see it up there. Speaking of right back good transition there apparently Abbas says that an eastern conference team is very interested. In one deondraye lynn whose career newcastle has been revived in a lot of ways in recent weeks. What do we think is this real. Is this good agent planting to try to get a deal in the championship. or perhaps are- up with newcastle. Who would need want afford deondraye yonglin. Would it be fc. Cincinnati who seemed to be going to wingbacks and just got a model rita. And if you dead on the right good lord that would be fun. Yep stone would probably be very happy about that. And by the way they're at the top the allocation order which matters when it comes to guy like the andre yellen is cincinnati team. That should go after him should go after him. And what are the odds of the actually ends up in major league soccer by the way. He's a free agent himself in the summer. Cincinnati should not go after him cincinnati's in a worse position they need to solidify the spine of their team. And if you're gonna use a dp spot it needs to be on. An elite defensive midfielder winning number ten. I don't know what they're doing at number nine. You have all those spots to fill in fourteen team like that. So even though they're on the top of the allocation the one thing that fits for them with him is he's younger than the guys they've brought in so like you don't he's not don year thoughts. Emt diong so you can have a little bit of defendant. Said i was gonna ask the team. That i see nashville. They're not a team. That's going to spend big on dp which for the teams that are. They're not gonna a dp spot on yet lynn. But he's a domestic and they've been trading away international spots to get allocation money. They didn't plan on using them. So he that you don't have to worry about that. And i think he upgrades a team that has their core has their spine and he can add attacking quality to the right back. Position service for kadi's things like that and as well a younger guy to kinda lasts for the next four or five years if he's willing to come back so that's the team the fit that i see. They're pretty far down on the allocation list. But again. I don't know that anyone else wants him so i don't know that you have to give that much to move up this list to pick them up a dp spa for would be shocking to me as my gut instinct on the wait time out because we did this with the molino conversation. You can't just speak in generalizations with that dp could mean he's one dollar over a threshold. It can mean whatever you want. It doesn't mean deondraye headline is making what nikola darrow's make it's fine but like using one of your three. Dp slots research even still. Wouldn't it be better to make tam. And that way you have this big kitty of tam that you could then by him down with as you can buy down at the same time they're gonna be able to say they have three dvd's and then buying down linka maybe. Maybe that's very if they want to national getting the should be. Gp right it's fair. They got a private jet. That is confirmed. They uh nashville. I would be more interested in upgrading. That attack specifically the number ten position and i think alastair johnson given what his contract is and when he provided last year. I i don't think the roi is there to Sort of recruit over him. The two the two places that make sense to me If harrison awful is it has legs gone and he's not coming back Or even like you. You think you can't start them or can't get more than fifteen hundred minutes. Then yeah i. If you're the crew your window is now So columbus would make a certain amount of sense from my point of view And the other. One is easter campus. But like seattle makes the most sense because like kelvin. Lear damn right back well he he might not be coming back. Right is what i'm saying but you you've been in your budget spending tam money on right. It's not some big shocker. To you to go out and do that. Yeah in it and just like with columbus your windows now like the seattle's not trying to win twenty twenty three. They're not trying to build guys up that they can sell though. I think they do eventually want to do that. They want to win championships this year and next year and the year after in deondraye edlund as a right back would in theory. Help them do that. So those are the two who make the most obvious sense to me and the last this year. Yeah that's what i was going to say. It's probably moved here. This is probably a situation where he can get more money elsewhere. Any will because everything seems to be trending upward at least in this immediate moment for him and he is going to be on free after this year with newcastle. But you also have to consider the other side which is not just like. Hey i'm fc. Cincinnati i want the andrea edlund. I'm going to get him. There has to be done right on. Saying i want to do that. Which is why going to a contender. Make so much more sense and going home makes a lot of sense as what let us know what you think sanders fans since he fans anybody out there. Think we need the andrea. Don't put him on my roster. We're gonna end this free agency segma- here with a big congratulations to at least roguishness on a wonderful career. Always enjoyed chatting with them watching him seeing his career progress from a point where he thought he was going to hang it up and do real estate to being. One of the best goalkeepers a major league soccer. I can't wait to see what's next for him as well as the front office type of guy right like seem going back to harrison and maybe getting a job somewhere with them then then. There's an opening in miami. i mean. Honestly he moved down there since. He's not a guy that you think. I'll see him on the sidelines someday. In every way that that he interacts with people and speaks and thinks about not just the game but like the larger aspects of the business of sport to me. He seems like somebody who's going to be. I don't know if people wear suits in this day and age anymore because we're all just sitting in our houses You know. I think he will be one of those guys. He'll be an executive Down the line. So congratulations on his career. Let's talk inter miami right now before we get to our chat with greg vanney. We did that on wednesday. As i said diego lonzo should he knew he knew he knew somebody convinced him otherwise but they also knew everybody knew. I don't know why they just didn't do this. Wouldn they did it the first time but now it is official it is quote unquote mutual. That he has no longer the head coach. So they're pulling what amounts to like. What would you compare this to. This is like an fc. Cincinnati situation. Here your your gm and paul mcdonagh and your head coach after one year. Inter miami sorry. Orlando there coaching with the other year. And a half years was gone. Say that didn't work out that well for them or for cincinnati inter miami arte state law where you have to do it that way because he's molesting was in florida it's the ghosts in fort lauderdale. It's the ghosts of Of the old stadium just poking up out from underneath being like hey. The fusion used to be here. Are things weird things happen. Okay david beckham's inter miami. Which is what they are now. Let's be honest Have some big decisions to make their reports out there. That that David like phil neville or has would at least talk to phil neville about. That's the valencia scarf now on the scarf wall here Just a couple of quick time for fill. I'll see maybe spanish got going down there. What we what's going to happen. Is it patrick. Vieira because like half of toronto media seems to think it will be veer in half him say. Hey there's not even a contract. I tend to believe the half says. There's not a contract christian jack to me probably the most sourced in that sense and if i'm patrick vieira's agent like everybody wants this. Dude you better come in with your best offer. But they already talked. Did in miami. So what's it gonna be. That wants patrick vieira. Well that's what i would say. If i was the agent was jobs are starting to get taking. Are they allowed. Just one the galaxy job. he's still got the in atlanta. There's still three open jobs right. You still go. Coach dc united. No but like potentially right you pick up the call as possible farmers agent. It's will say about where this puts inter miami in terms of their coaching situation. fulfill neville mls. The goal is to be one of the best leagues in the world. And in order to get to that level i we have to become one of the best meam leagues in the world. And i think. We've made a lot of progress on that front and bringing phil neville to miami fort lauderdale. I think that would put us. Maybe even like a top five mean league in the world which is really really important to me. So fingers crossed for that one but the more logical hiring would be patrick vieira Given that there were already connections with them Taylor has reported that they were really really close. Tiring patrick vieira. A year and a half ago as the inaugural head coach and inter miami given that patrick vieira has had success in this league and the other thing which is why i think. Vr is more of a candidate for miami even though we haven't heard a single wink in the past twenty four hours. Well not even the past four hours since became official with diego. Lonzo from everything. I've heard they're only must go to a situation where he will have power will he will have decision making power. Basically from the top to the bottom miami can kind of offer that right now because they have cleared out basically all of their decision makers from the sideline and the front office. Vera can go in there and be to miami. Bruce arena is to new england toronto. You don't get that they'll manning is there. Ali curtis is there. Those guys did not get the higher. Greg vanney right they had greg For sixty three years for a knowledge case he was not their guy they are going to hire their guy who This is gonna sound but like who they want to be able to control a little bit And that is the way it's done in most front offices. That is not unique to toronto. I don't think they are would be that guy. I think vera would demand too much control himself so as it stands right now. I if i were a betting man. I would put money on patrick vieira to inter miami and i would expect a more modest higher in terms of global recognition from toronto. Fc and as for dc. We just barely mention them. I my money is still in gonzalo. Pineda don't speaking of panetta branch mets according to. Idc really has had a nice week when it comes to News items that branch. Mets has got a new contractor working on that staff. With nato's not there. They might have to shuffle. That little bit by the way for patrick vieira. He spent a little time in manchester new. Like new york city south of and maybe miami. He's just trying to trying to live his life man. I hope it happens. I feel comfortable saying this. I'm pretty sure. Phil neville probably already owns a home in florida as the most british thing you could possibly do probably panhandle but still it's basically turned. Panhandle is wrong. And they love. The tampa area really had no idea. They don't like the waves. It's too much stewart. Okay just a nice little like easier. Dip in the why. It's like the mediterranean Maybe some links courses just to remind them of home Anyway let's let's talk to greg vanney david. I chatted with him on wednesday right after his press conference introducing him as the next head coach of the la galaxy. We'll take a listen and be right back today. Tnt five g called to the field. We're talking to greg. Vanney who surprise surprise is the la galaxy manager. Nobody could have guessed this greg. It made perfect sense to all of us and it seems like it made perfect sense to you. We've talked to you and robin and so many other guys from those early galaxy years about everything. I heard you talking about picking up glass off the training fields and your press conference just ended. You're back in warm weather. You're still wearing the scarf. What does it mean to you to be. The head coach. The la galaxy. I'm really excited again. This is this is the club that gave me my opportunity to to be professional player I learned a lot in those beginning years. You mentioned some of the names from the coach. Lothar standards to the dan. Cashman to robin phrase. These guys cobi jones who. I'm sure i'll be seeing soon. Reecey and these are guys that We're the epitome of his club at then I'm excited to be representing them in that. That legacy again In a different capacity. So i couldn't be more excited. I'm happy to be back in l. a. Lot of familiar faces a lot of things. Here that are that are familiar. that's You know that look to before to Taking it again but you know a lot. I i'm i'm really excited about the opportunity to to be representing the galaxy in the random and Mr an shoots and and they're they're passionate to get back on so an opportunity. You mentioned the brand getting back on top. I mean that is the galaxy brand. We were talking about this club on our last show and i was thinking about that walked to the field and pass all the trophies. This club is one over time. And i sort of joked that they haven't been anywhere close competing for those trophies. How big is this job in front of you. You said you liked to build your builder. How much do you have to build here. i think. I think there's a lot of things here to work with to build. And there's a lot of infrastructure things that are in place but the the most important thing is we have to build a certain culture for how we're going to work every single day those trophies don't win games anymore know you can look at those jobs and you can walk by but the opposition doesn't care anymore about those trophies. It's what are we doing every single day to be prepared and be ready for the match. That's in front of us so that we can perform execute on that day and then we have to do that thirty four times and we have to do that through the playoffs in every other event. So this is about reestablishing a culture Work rate Let the past go. it's there. We need to respect it and we need to honor it and the best way to do that is by getting to work every single day and building our own legacy As a new team and miss glove and not looking back at the legacy that exists. That's that's what is important. I was a part of that legacy but for me. It's in the past. Now it is now is about today and what's in front of us and that takes a certain mentality in a certain culture that when you come in here you you have to live up to that expectation and i look forward to that. That's you know. That's what i learned and i learned it. You know from like. I said from ziggy. Even when i was at ucla when you step in a new play for ucla you had a certain standard that you had to live up to. That's why i learned it. Then when i came to the galaxy we tried to set that standard as a new club and they did for many years. Now we have to get back to it. That is that is what everybody has grown to expect in this league as the la galaxy is up at the top somewhere pushing the level of other clubs and other teams And that's the responsibility that we have. I can look more forward to this this opportunity so you mentioned building. You're obviously built a winning culture and all the things you want in toronto. Does this have to be different. Is this going to be different. Because the la galaxy have this past because it's a different area of the country a different culture around the city. Or can you kind of build rebuild. What you did. I think some things will translate directly. I think winning cultures and winning organizations have similarities. They're not. They're not polar opposites here you know Culture and how you work in a winning way is consistent whether you know whether you're talking about the lakers. Are you talking about the la galaxy or any anybody else. There is consistency than those cultures. That exist that we have to get into place year. So they're even in toronto those some of those things for sure. We'll be able to put into place here but this is a unique setting and it is it has its own unique qualities that we have to quickly As a staff in as a club we have to add those into our formula to be successful here and so i think that's part of what i love about this having to adapt a little bit. Learn new things but take some of the experiences that we've had and apply them. We're going to have new characteristics of our players were going to have new personalities than our players Getting connected emma's quickly as possible to get the best out of each one of them so that they buy into. What it is we're trying to do is one of those first steps and so You know there are some things that will carry over but there are definitely some things that are going to be unique to this team into this club that that we have to They'll have to adapt adapt to and and add into this formula that they can be successful for the galaxy. I don't want you to give away your secret sauce. But i do wanna away your secret sauce here greg. I think about toronto and how you did that. And the bloody big deal and michael is such a key part of that a the building and so many other guys. How do you build a culture. I hear it all the time. It's just buzzword in sports and business in life like what do you do. How do you set that. What are actual actual things that people at home listening say. Oh i get that i understand. I think a culture is is set into place based on how you work every single day but it can't be culture isn't set by your style of play. Culture is set by how you perform on the weekend. It's not culture is when you walk into this building and when you live your life What is it that you're putting in the forefront and how do you go to work every single day and it takes. Multiple people takes everybody getting onto the same page so when our players come into this building. They need to understand the expectations that they carry when they walk through. But also how are they going to work every single day. It's important for us to establish that in create that purpose for every single player who is ear and everybody and everybody who is working around those players and if we're all on the same page and we have a way of working that starts to develop a mentality of. I'm showing up every day to be the best version of me. I'm trying to make the guy next to me. Better when i'm when i'm at home or on social media and i'm putting out something. I'm showing my teammates that i'm ready to work art and i'm ready to to live up to my expectations that starts to carry around and people start to buy and it starts to spread within the group and that's been a culture starts develop but it takes it takes commitment it takes discipline and those are things values that you know you hear that they clubs or teams of their coach or some of those things. It takes a little bit of time but it's leading. It started by myself and our staff and the people around the players who set who set the expectations for the players and then the players. You gotta make sure your players who want to buy into that drive that you mentioned michael bradley standard setter or work every single day as it comes in he one of the first ones there if he's not the first one last ones out. He works hard every single day at matters to him cares. That's those are the types of guys that we're looking for to adnan's this team they. They are legacy players. They're not just guys who show up to win on the weekend but their legacy players and they care about the legacy that they leave behind them. And that's what we want to continue to build this roster with. I believe we have guys who are like that. And i want to get to know those guys right away. 'cause they're going to be importance as we establish out in this group secretly wearing a michael bradley jersey under sweatshirt. I actually hit of every european jersey ever war like right down there. Thank you jeff bradley for cinemas over but we talk about the stars with toronto. Set a lot of that for la. It's always stars that we talk about and chichi retail and john dos. Santos are the two big ones. Have you talked to them at all yet and looking from the outside coming in what is it that you want to do with those two specifically to try and help build what you're talking about in la. I have not spoken to those two yet. That was on my agenda for once this announcement went out. And i and things there are places to is to reach out to those those guys and more players just to to introduce myself and get things started Open up the dialogue. I think that's one of the things that's important. It's the way. I work with players with through dialogue through collaboration. I want these players to feel like they're part of this process and a big part and so That's important to me. And i will reach out those guys. I see a hobby ariza player. Who can bring a lot of experience that professionalism that standard-setting type of guy who was the unique goalscorer around the world. Who inside the box can do. So many good things We need to create a structure and a plan around him. The allows him to excel and be the best version of of himself and obviously we want him to want to be back guy with us and in addition to that and i think he will. I think the environment that we create will make a lot of sense to him. And i think you'll appreciate it and i think I hope that he will lower to that so But that conversation will happen. But he's these pivotal into the next steps of where we're where we're headed same with same with joanna. Guy who for me is very very good soccer player He can do a lot of good things on the field and engine room type of guy who can move you from the back to the front and side to side and Can help us to keep possession. We want to be a team. That has the ball can do a lot of those things and so Again another guy who i think is going to be important in terms of setting the standard and the expectations within this group. And it's important. That that i get connected to him and that he is he feels good about where we're going and his role in helping us to get there. So you set in your presser Greg do you want to develop our principals play in style of play. And i think about you treat a lot when you say that because ultimately got a score goals to win games. He's the guy being paid to do that. He did not perform at the level people expected last year when you think about his game and i'm assuming that you've watched taper watched him a lot last year. How what is his. How do you build something. That best brings out his attributes. What does that style of play. Look like in your mind. I think our team has to be a chance creating You know. I think that's been the case for us in toronto. For a number of years we create opportunity. We're always up there. And the chance. Creation side of in my opinion needs a team around him in a structure and some principles and things that functioned around him to put him in the best position to try to score goals. He's a box striker. Who has qualities outside of the box they can help your team and set up and all that kind of stuff at the end of the day is bread and butter is to find those little gaps in windows inside the box to get unmarked to create these little spaces where he can put things on goal and so for us. It's about having system and a style of play that is is capable of getting us and the team to good spots that can put him into predictable areas for himself the to get to get good. Looks ongoing. We've seen that with guys around the league. I mean a guy like Bradley phillips he's probably scored one hundred ten goals inside the box. Right in in it's about it's about setting those types of players up in the best opportunities for them to be what they are which is finishers. They're just pure finishers and so he's got more qualities that he can bring to our team that but in order for him to put up numbers. We've gotta help him in terms of putting him in the best spots to to to be the pure finisher or that he's capable of being for about five years now. I think every january we sit in a warm place with you combine. And we ask you. What is toronto. wanna get better at. What do you want to change in every year. You say. I love having great wingers. I wanna have guys who can take players one v one and almost every year. It doesn't happen christian von them. We have to talk about. That could be coming back. Maybe coming back. He's the player you've been talking about. He is arguably the best one. V one winger. We've ever seen in major league soccer. What do you think about the potential of working with them and how it can fit into your fundamentals of how you see the game. I am one of our priorities. Is to find the best way way that makes sense for our organization ownership everything is to try to bring christian back if that doesn't work with the player line christian which is not a ton of out there but somebody like him you know. It's it's a huge quality in our league to have is to have somebody who can come off. The planks can eliminate people it forces teams that have the two great players to the outside to support that defensive effort brings people out of the middle then opened up the middle where ultimately these goals are scored opportunities are great itself It's something that we've always talked about in toronto. Having that guy is the way we play in the style of play that we have in our principles will set up players for one on one situations constantly and we talk about overloads and creating new versus ones. But we'd never had really except the ritual from time to time. Is that guy who cannot consistent basis and eliminate that i bender which which brings other players out of the middle to help that and so he christian is that guy As you said which is exciting. And he's another guy that i think within the system of what we're trying to do can really excel and at what we would like to do along with along with air. So it's it's something that really fits together but as you said that the starter question. One of the keys for me is that we've got as a team we've gotta stop conceding goals because you can see a goals undermine anything that you're trying to do into the attack and so collective team defending continued to improve getting the most out of the guys. We have continued to improve on. Those pieces is is a is a really an important part of what the next step the cloud. Because you can exciting as you wanted an attack but you can't win every game four three and three to so. That's that's a big next step for us. Can i just ask you greg about the transfer market and about your sort of influence on the decisions and we know that you and dennis will be in conjunction but i just wonder in in discussions what you asking for what you wanted in that sense as far as your ability to really shape the team because so many of the decisions that you guys made in toronto were were great decisions and i assume when you make this jump that you're looking for a little bit more if you're a builder you wanna have your hands in the dirt so to speak. So how much do you think you have to make changes. And where do you fit in the decision hierarchy in your mind. I believe that you know. These processes are collaborative in order to get the best results possible in the best players that has to be collaborative and dennis has a fantastic network. Job on slurpee. Gets out there and he understands when i sit down and talk to him about the style of play. Do he understands it. He knows how to to to work those angles as well So i think it's a collaborative process in the end. You know it's there. They're not going to put anybody on the team. That i don't want on our team don't see fitting into what we're trying to do I laid out and will continue. Lay out exactly the roles and responsibilities in what we want each player to be able to do within the vision of what we're trying to do. They understand that. Now we're we're it's not the easiest moment right now. 'cause you can't get out and really see players live like you want to meet players and really due diligence that you would probably normally normally do an market but through our relationships. Many of us have them. We can get a lot of good information we can find really good players So once we make those decisions. I think it's a collaborative process but again i think at the end of the day it's clear that none. Nobody wants to put a player on the team. That i don't see fitting into what it is we're trying to do And having a big impact. On that. I think we deserve a compliment. That took us this long to get to an academy question. Because there's a chance on this show we would start with it but i. I actually talked to tip as vicente a week ago and he was talking about when you took over as academy director and then coach in toronto setting benchmarks for in five six seven years x amount of players in the i team coming from the academy selling players. That whole set of goals. Do you have that in place for la. Is it different because of the expectations for the galaxy or for the southern california talent. How are you thinking about integrating the academy top to bottom. I think we all expect seeing more than what we've already seen from the galaxy academy. Yeah i think you know in the initial process of us talking about even this responsibility in this role for me. It's something that is important to me. You guys know that. And everybody around the league knows that that I'm a guy that that cares deeply about the academy and the young players in the development of the score and north america which is really envy academy space and the responsibility within the transition. Now something that is important as well and so. I'm really excited about talent. They have here. I really like the structure. That's in place because they're set up with the opportunity of the young players in the young talent to play in the us l. championship. Division is is really a task and and a good stepping stone for for these young players. I i look at the group and there's some threes and a couple o- fours Who i think have a ton of potential And so again once. We're we're all connected in terms of against allah play principle. Google play all of that kind of stuff. I think our system ideas are all very similar to what's already going on here I think the group is and and bringing some of those players long as a huge part of what we're trying to do And i think there are a lot of guys that are already in you. You see f. Alvarez is a fantastic player who has incredible vision. It's continued to nurture his game so that it makes sense and can be highly successful and what we're doing obviously julian araujo is a young player. Who's come through this process and is excelling and there will be another step for julian. There'll be another step for those guys. I think my goal is that that those players understand that. There is a pathway through the la galaxy. And through the. I team help us to be successful. But it's okay. It's also dream the to play champions league somewhere to play for the biggest up in the world. We're we're okay with that But we we want our players to be be proud to be here with the galaxy and help our i team and i'm here to to help that process See its way through. You're gonna call thereto. Otherwise i talked to you about f- and these guys in forever but i have my w four bar here. I don't know if you know what this is. This is the ball that was pulled by. Charlie davies. The setup l. traffic. Oh emma's back. We expected it. We got it. You're al traffic go Debut coming this year. You didn't have it when you were there. What do you make of that. Ends that city rivalry and going against bob bradley. I think it's i think it's fantastic to have two big organizations who are really trying to do things at the highest level being in the same city. a very short distance. Apart having a game. I have the utmost respect for the group l. Ese and what. They've accomplished in a very short period of within this league. And obviously bob as as a tremendous coach. But i love the idea that two teams that are fighting for the the top spot and mls are in the same city. And there's a lot that can be built off of that rivalry in that competition. We both want to have the ball. We both want to be aggressive. And how we play our styles or not so dissimilar Says a lot of really good things like we both are fierce competitors and intense What i have a ton of respect for bob and what they all have been able to accomplish. Our goal is is. We have to surpass that. And get to the top ben and there's a lot of work to do in that process but i look forward to it. It's just a part of one of the greatest. I think one of the greatest rivalries in the league. Which is the montreal. Toronto rivalry i think To now be a part of this. One is Special especially given my pass at the galaxy and and the legacy the comes with with that to now be a part of something like this is. I'm really looking forward to figure. They'll measure the eighteen yard box in this one than they did in the other one right last one for you. We've talked about soccer in la and what it means to you on the soccer side. But i wonder on the personal side like debris in your family back there after a season that has been so difficult. I mean a year that has been so difficult for all of us but for in particular the teams in canada. And what you guys went through. Does it feel sort of settling on a personal side was it feel like to be back in. La with your family. Yeah you know it will. It's a transition right now for us. For sure ed's The family is going be drawn for a little while. Try to finish school year out especially given the circumstances around us. Nothing seems to be so easy at the moment and so It will be a process You know they're settled right now in toronto so everything is in place that they need. And so when. I when i i'm obsessive. Worker as it is and so now it's a new project. I'm super obsessive. So for me to be here by myself obsessing about this for the next five six months is is probably good for everybody to be fair. I wife and mike is included. But they're excited they're really they're really excited to bittersweet obviously to create a lot of relationships and and people there as as i did but they're excited to get back decided to to be back in southern california to be a part of a club that they know meant so much to me and my playing career for my boys are all three Academy kids in toronto built To now be a part of a club that gave me my opportunity and all that is something that's exciting for them as well and and daughters excited because she's going to go back to the gym and work with the people that she worked with. Before we left she's gymnastics My wife has a lot of friends that we had here. So there's a lot to be excited about and for us to be together you know. We love toronto. I won't miss the snow and the cold winters. To be honest i will. I will trade that in for the beach and the sun but But we're we're we're excited really excited about this. This opportunity next phase of this journey at this game as a journey that takes us many many different directions. And we're about this one. All right greg. Vanney new head coach the la galaxy as we all predicted. Glad to see it happen greg. Glad to see you there so much for your time. We'll chats real soon. Okay again. Greg vanney still wearing a scarf in the beautiful weather in la some things. Just change unless you're watching on youtube. You couldn't see that but now you know so the conversation. I wanna have here kind of revolves around the transfer window. And now what they become under greg vanney in the continuation of dennis closest time in la. There's the academy but then there's also the flip side of this which is at the elliott galaxy and they're both expected to sign big players also big players want to play for them because of history because of l. a. So how would you approach it. David i of argued about this off. Air doyle so i'd be curious what your thoughts are as far as roster construction and the future of the galaxy under greg vanney. How many of those big players who have really wanted to play for. La has been good over the past half decade. robbie keane would be one. David beckham became robbie keane a decade ago. I've said over the last half decade for them. It was pretty good. It was okay ashley cole. Obviously there's a lot of time. Took a pay cut. But he was coming off an injury and is sort of a singular type of player. You can't replicate that. All daniel sturridge sturridge trained. It's double up. Hurt doesn't totally fit into this. Because he's younger and i think he was fine this year i would say you're not signing those guys to the core of your team and the roster's they all played on rabat. You'll even think of it. Like that is what i'm saying. Don't even think of it like that if you want to. With the blueprint for how to build a winning team in this league you look up the street to l. Afc you'll look all the way up. The i five to seattle or you look to what columbus did or you look to. What greg vanney was part of for half decade in toronto and i think it's going to be his job to to sort of find that find the right fit for la And that can include signing players like reto Does yeah right but like the next day right. That was that for them. Always well but does it have. I think so. I think it's a part of the club whether it's from the champ. Can't it can't be the priority. It kept you've priority. The priority has to be to build a stable and functional team. They have every asset in terms of player acquisition. Every other team in the league does they have to be smarter about using them. They have what should be the. They have the the most rich area in north america outside of guadalajara or mexico city to recruit from in terms of Homegrown they have to do a much better job of leveraging that and then what happens between the lines like they. Greg vanney has to do a better job than has been done over the past six years in carson like it. It's just one after another after an once. You get that stuff right. Then you can worry about whichever superstar happens to fall in your lap next. I just everquest have built the rosters over the past. Six years has been really has so the question. Though is the galaxy have been terrible is though do we have time to talk about the academy. Now is an idea for in greg. Vanney is mine. Is he talking to disclose now at this moment. In two thousand twenty one about how he's getting players through the academy which players are going to be a difference because does that equal the starting to put together a competitive teams in winning to me. Here's my initial thought on that. Just in terms of time it takes and the guys that they've brought through the impact. They've got from him to me. It's focus on iran effort right now. Evaluate the other guys. You can start to blood but number one and greg talked about an interview. And he's talked about repeatedly talked about in toronto to is that you've got the i team culture and results asp culture right. So that when you do bring those guys in that. Pathway starts to pay dividends. they're coming into situations where they can be successful and they fit into the right way and the ready. So so greg. Vanney took over toronto. Let me take time. That might be two years. You i think it. We're talking like five or six years. My i'm saying for the first sort of wave. A oscar could do it in less than a year. We're talking with the academy easier. Alaska hasn't built out an academy and has a pipeline of bringing those players through. That's what we're talking about. I think that's a six seven year plan for vani to do it. Out of high level consistently like dallas is doing like we hope phillies about to do. I'm just saying that in two years you wanna see the first sort of like drops coming from the pipe right like you wanna start seeing signs that there are players or there is a culture that can integrate and help those players improve. Two years is way too long like jillian. A row has noticed harder. Well no the are outside of it for me around are in the i team campus job right now with those two. Okay fine that too. I said like those two you have to elevate araujo needs to be an international caliber player. He should probably be a guy that you're looking to like get a multimillion dollar transfer for down. The line piece should be that good. An effort should be guy. you're saying. Oh yeah that potential that's now real in somewhat consistent basis because it still hasn't been either way if we don't if we don't move on right now we're not going to get the five minutes for the mail bag and i made a promise to produce an honors and we've got to fulfill that promise but i explained the national team january camp to me. Doyle got five competitions in twenty twenty one nations league gold cup fa cup qualifying olympic qualifying. And then you hope the olympics. So what's going on with a with gregg in the boys. My reading of this first of all to two different rosters is a very limited senior roster. I think it's just twelve guys who are twenty four in over and the significance of twenty four is those are the guys who are too old to to olympic qualifying and then there's a twenty three and under can't which is very large and he's like purely in olympic qualifying can't purely and obviously the understanding here. Is that the olympic qualifying olympics themselves. They are youth national team. Tournaments and fee does not compel clubs to release players for youth tournaments. European clubs have no interest or no reason to release the likes of christian. Pulisic tyler adams weston mckennie gio rainbow genius desk anthony like all of these guys are young enough to be at olympic qualifying. None of them will be there. So i if foremost gregg berhalter is taking these twenty-three player role more than twenty three players late taking a bunch of players primarily from. Mls because mls clubs do tend to release their players for international tournaments at age group level. And is like okay. A couple of guys from last month effort alvarez kyle duncan moved up to snuff. Didn't make it. They didn't make camp From this group is going to be a bloodbath to figure out who is going to be there for olympic qualifying which is slated to play. Take place about two and a half months from now But obviously that is not in an pen given that it's a twenty twenty and we're still in the midst of the pandemic it's twenty one but twenty seven hundred twenty twenty so many ways we So this is what you want You want to see depth throughout the player pool. We we still like josh sergeants. Not going to be there nico joa cini who had really good debut for the us. He's not gonna be there. We still have jeremy of oversea. In darrell decay. I o economic. And he's not going to be there. He's thinking he's with canada. He's thinking about maybe playing for canada. We still have guy is like. Hey zeus ferrara so this is really to me. An example of the depth that has been created at the age level for the us national team over the past four years. We did not have that in two thousand eighteen. We have that now in twenty twenty one. It is a big part of why. I think that we didn't qualify for the two thousand. Eighteen world cup is a big part of why i think we will not qualify but be very good for twenty twenty two in two thousand twenty six as for the full national team. Camp again guys have been cut. Daniel lovett's isn't there will trap. Isn't there michael bradley. Isn't there those guys who were really part of the national team in two thousand nineteen under gregg berhalter. Then play well enough. It just didn't do it. Chase gaspar was really good in amyloidosis. Besser wasn't quite good enough to push in. At this point there is no there should be no interest in expanding the roster anymore because you know the core of players. Are you know that the younger guys whether it's the one in europe or here in the us have generally outperformed the holdovers and that is the decision. That gregg berhalter seems to have been seems to have made with this camp. So i think it's very telling in a lot of ways i that decisions have been made about personnel And second that the olympics is really a priority. If it wasn't a priority than players like jackson you'll who is with the u twenty. Three's he would be with the senior team instead but for this camp. He is with the u twenty. Three's so i i. It's what i wanted to see and i'm happy that i'm seeing it this month. There's the buzzer right there. We have five minutes left and begin. Four oh one zero six zero. Mls extra time and mls soccer dot com. We got some resolution suggestions that we saved for the mailbag. The first one comes from taylor. Wimberly a mini ten to fifteen minute intensive analysis segment a week featuring a different in new team. We have talked about this in the past. I think it is a very good idea. We always have people begging us for something deeper or saying you. Don't talk about my team with enough larry or enough Sort of comprehensiveness. So i think we should do this. And i think we should make it communal. I think we should take suggestions each week. And of course once the team has done you mark them off the list and then you move onto your have twenty six left in order right and if a team trades than we have to move them up Do we have. That's the question But i think we should do it so on thursdays. Let's say we will take suggestions. And then we will decide on the team based on the game and who we haven't talked about in put a line through the ones that we have my instinct to be that we all watch it together. Of course the three of us in charlie and whoever else with whoever's involved here so that we all have seen the same game it can talk about the same thing in totality hopefully but we also open it up in like live tweeted or something or at producing With us the extra time handle so that the entire extra time base is thinking about us when we talk about it. It's familiar to everybody. And then it's a question of monday or thursday. What do you think. I vote thursday. But for the discussion. Because i think monday's listened. There's twenty seven teams in the league. This year is that right. Yes i get that number right. I don't know how much extra like people were like. Oh you don't talk about our team. We did a show where we talk about everyone for two minutes. And there's there's nothing we can really do about it to an extent and there's going to be more so we are talking about guardado to charlotte. Then you got mental. Then you gotta talk about saint louis all that stuff so i think thursdays has a little more space. Yeah i'm down for that. So ten to fifteen. On thursdays choose a team will watch their game for the weekend or maybe mid week so midweek might deliver some some easy wins for us on that front as well if you have any ideas there let us know another one from ms gone wild. Let's competing podcast out there about major league soccer. Get some great guests though so check them out. If you want to they say feature small focus podcast on the show with the kissy face so any podcast of this. Is your moment almost gone wild and doing it again. This is your moment. We just promo ju Listened to and. I'm sure that you do out there listening to podcasts about this league whether it's team focused or league focused or whatever it might be that you really like once a week in the mail bag. We'll do it on thursdays i think. Send us your pitch like your elevator. Pitch for why people should listen to that show. I think as i think about as i do from time to time here daryl grove in the total soccer show on what he represented. I think this is an opportunity to sort of represent What darrell often did which is inclusive and Sort of sharing the stage and really giving other people shine and saying day over there not me doing a great job you should check them out so let us know what you listen to what you like about and why people should to all right. Here's the regular mailbag section that we have dave takeaway eric olson in orlando florida. Says i've been watching emma lessons. Mid-2000s been exciting to watch it grow in such a short time from a relatively easily football and baseball stadiums so the one we have now remember tuning in to live back into danes being the first couple of minutes every game china divine. If this local station knows how to put the home team i on the scoreboard and whatnot. But now things have become so much better but get ready for it. It's time to list records as win. Draw loss instead of win. Loss draw imagine nor numbering no more wondering which numbers which on the broadcast. I'm sure you guys can pull some strings at. Mls h. q. Thank you. I look forward to our glorious standardized future in your face. Yeah this is the sort of put antics stuff that excites me and boers mc. I can't believe that's an e mail that we chose to read on the show. Just i like it. I like eric. Don't take this the wrong way man. But i like that. You're thinking this sort of detail. I do agree that consistency is important. Must be had. Because i always have to go check when i'm looking at different websites and be like okay. How do they do it. So i would love to see that be consistent. I appreciate your Your attention to detail we went from. It's been win. Loss draw for more than a decade. And you're talking about consistency but that's changing it would be it would be consistency for. Don't change it. I'm saying everybody has to do with the same. Because that's the problem. What is on the standings is not always what you see on every single broadcast or in every single place so everybody get behind win loss. Draw or everybody behind win draw. I don't care which one it is. We just gotta communicate what that paul from houston one. I was going to skip that one. But clearly i paul from houston we talked about the dynamo and i was like they should go or don't you said day. Go get a recognizable name. Somehow i got it. He says We'd be fans already know who we are and that is cheap. So that's the that's the rebuttal to me and said is never going to happen. And he's saying we know that oh new year's resolution my resolution was to surf. I'm never going to serve as part of it. It's kind of like a whole new drink. Let's finish with this on all city. Who says why. Every time i watch broadcast commentators say zonal marking is wrong and a mistake and yet most seem to use it for segments of games because zonal marking is better than straight up man marking and has been for thirty five years The if you're looking at the place where commentators most often complain about. It is on corner. Kicks the best defensive teams in the world on set-pieces specifically on corners. Use a mix of man in zonal principles Sometimes you have a little guy Matched up against one of the opponent's best players in the air. Not because you want him to win the header because you want him to bump him So that he can't really get his feet on her own and really get up in the attack the ball and then you're betting on your best defensive players in the air to win those headers on corner kicks it is it is. It is not good commentary when when color analysts complain about zonal marking on corner kicks Because it just if you look at the numbers throughout the world for the past thirty five years a mix of zone in man marking on corner. Kicks is always the best way to defend. Its recently by issue. Because when they're talking about it it's almost always after a goal has been scored and they're looking at that replay saying oh. They were their zonal marking there. So that's a fault. No it's recency bias and it's installed well when i was a kid in old blighty. I wasn't taught zonal marking an you. Be alive and take another latte and win your dual exactly so like it commentators. Some of them are very good. Lad verse. Ladd is my new way of referring to man marking on corner kicks. It's just a bunch of lads in the box. Okay all right. That's it for us to be hit. Five minutes about phil neville taking over in He has property in florida. Or so. i've heard so you get a nice place to decamp and relax if things go a little bit south for inter miami on says we've met our obligation and it's a privilege to meet that obligation for a one zero six zero s dot com. Hit us up. It's been a fun. Show twenty twenty one is off enrolling and that means things in different ways. Was he on monday. Everybody have a great weekend.

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Men in Blazers 06/28/19: USWNT Instant Reax Pod

Men In Blazers

23:49 min | 2 years ago

Men in Blazers 06/28/19: USWNT Instant Reax Pod

"This is Rebecca Lowe, will Rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio, and you on this thing to men in blazers on the NBC sports network. Oh MAG gun row. P. No, Meghan rep. America. It's real women instant reaction port. Still pulpit, Tatum, blood pumping heart. Some ping of the USA, two fronts one ninety minutes which headed this game. The nerves the hunger to get the game on just let's do this. I haven't felt since about Lewin's fell and it didn't last down this game. It was a gain, the made the battle of Windsor forward respectively. Just feel like crap claim -ation come just open by raising a bird to American women. I know you don't need me to praise you, because, you know, the, the greatest just say this gay. USA to FRANZ when we needed that we needed that, that's all I'm going to say because. I felt like it was going to be enough pill struggle. It wasn't a pill, struggle. But my God are US. Where were ready for it, and equal to a more. Thanks, Morgan God love, Kellyanne God love designed the clothing line, which I just got sent to the books t shirts had called USA versus everybody. And I love Alex, and I love Kelly that brilliant. But I cannot imagine the when they design this clothing line, they realized just how USA versus everybody. Everybody would be. I mean before this gay the stakes they couldn't have been hired. They not only had to play their opponents, but there was a swirling equality debate. There was a cultural war that they've become embroiled in this week's and would say that they they brewed themselves in this week, but just so much pressure, so many storylines felt like too many storylines that total, and I'm gonna paraphrase Toco crap show. Circus, the Megara Pena would promise this folic? It was coming to bear in not in the best way and just a feeling going into this game. Many. Have you shared it because I asked you, if a Twitter just a slightly manic, Dow going into this game, which is unusual. What Jin the US women it was only enhanced by Jill elyssa selections, which were and still are totally befuddling to me. She stuck with the starting eleven the perform so cumbersome -ly against Spain, which men Lindsey Horon, who is the brains of this team. Who's the brains of this team and singing around the team? I thought playing FRANZ this punishing team physically dominant team playing FRANZ Lindsey haram is choosing to the night, king and keep in stock on the bench. At summary hawk tweeted, Jill LS, just our hair drop in Jones, snow level battle tactics why she chose to do it. We will not know we willing to left to the World Cup. Because the scrutiny of these teams is not high. The transparency is not. That we don't get real answers to play a quiet too. Busy tweeting Google picks, and Hulu primaries Gillette's can kind of just. Pass away the questions. But I'll just take to keep out saying team after such a challenge performance in the Spain game to either just a supreme vote of confidence by a coach or culture in which manages kind of daunted by the players verse to making waves in selections, almost play power run a little a MO we will find out, which it is after this World Cup. But having said that the US women kicked off this game is if they'd warmed up with a height video, which is just a of French heinousness. I'm much JP della camera and the rating of video with cardinal racially for the musketeers guest on from byu in the beast, all played out to symbol, full throbbing pumping, David Quetta soundtrack, because five minutes of a set piece, set pieces of been a challenge for this team will will cut. But this was different spotlight very much Megan repeated Megara Pinos weapon. Was the chace. She just she's cold that bull into heavy traffic, somehow somehow ended up into the back of that. How did it happen? The only conclusion can make of what should about fifty is that mega Pino is one of the few football is in the world. Can you know, just casually Megan entirity because that's what she did a real the way with till joy? And I thought. Relief. What release for, for the US AT you could see on the faces and for Meghan repeat new in particular after week in which she'd been in the national crosshairs, place, this out I show cross, whichever you want, see as but to experience the thrill of scoring a goal that thrill the original thrill, the drew to love the game in the first place caught it must have been so incredibly validating for you. Look at Meghan, repeat. No. And you think semi athletes, they just crumble and the pressure others. They live for it. They thrive. They was it. And this was Meghan. Repeated thriving a best game of this World Cup Thailand gay that you could say silly celebration, which seemed lay on as a play up, not as focused on the football as we're used to being today. That was the plan. We saw a totally focused player and it was magnificient from footballing perspective, probably even more magnificent from a human perspective. And from then, on it was some gay just the nipple ting, both teams charge in each other. There were hammers tones, neither able to cross that final passed French building up and down the flanks. We just say Becky sandwich. You Mike deficit magnificent in this game total giant physically told you mentally after incorrectly. And some would say bravely, I think taking the blame for the total. Disaster of a goal which was not her fault against spayed. What ching crystal done all say talk about that watching crystal than left back after all that crap? She took in the pre America. You go on the crystal done is nothing leftback. Chris doesn't consider a self left-back. She. She's, she's an attacker. She is. She's the best attacking force, the US have in that score. But for reasons are not clear to me, she's playing left back. And so what you have to play that with the French drive at the testing. It was I watching someone just hustle, and try a best in the crucible of pressure to. Having to call the gist fourth the double impr- Toji with the whole world. What Jean and my God? She's incredible tola gist because the precious to build the American midfield star to be overrun rose. Lavelle calibrated, and then precise in this game, Julia charging around, sometimes in a good way. Sometimes in a good way to heat belly in the game. And I half Alex Morgan paps injured shadow with the play that we see in our minds, and in the commercials and the longer the first half when the more the feeling of wonder that we had the news, I five minutes just of apparatus and the more if felt like a performance, where we'd we had a Jeff gem. He go we'd stole him one and then the other team would undo themselves in the final thank God. The French kept doing that. But the second half they came at us. They look stronger. They look strong. They look stronger the sound of my television. Just of metal buckling that the US were barely hanging on. I couldn't understand it for the love of God. Bring on someone who can control the midfield made changes. We talk about how depot squad squatters we talk about that's the greatest asset us asset haram haram haram hashtag free haram. And in the sixty third minute, finally Lindsey Horan, K mome by the sixty five paid dividends. Lindsey involved in the build up a exquisite clinical counter, Alex Morgan playing a beautiful bully poetic ball to slip heath into the open. She rolled the ball across goal and he was there to smash it who deliriously emphatically wonder Asli golden blazer making peanuts, and I will tell you, she wheeled away and celebrated just so. Just so Hans extended into that French night sky. And I just I just had him ahead. The lines of poetry, Emma Lazarus. Give me your tired. You pull your huddled masses yearning to brief free, the wretched refuse of your teaming shore, send these the homeless tempest toss to me. I lift my lamp the side. The golden door five goals in full matches Michael Bradley, first time I ever interviewed him said to me that he wanted to be a big player who made big plays in big moments in big games for big teams and making repeated is all of that listen to the pod. We take so many blazes. It's on our social as Budweiser American series. We popped it back out today on Twitter feed. Listen to it. It's twenty minutes. Be true sense of what drives and is humanly, inspirational French. Credited them. They got go from piece there six of the World Cup Renard, we've meaty French forehead, a huge metal test of the US acumen, the mental accurate, huge gut check their technical acumen could they see the game out? French just came us with the furious. If they suddenly remember too late too late America. Jerry Lee Lewis David Hasselhoff Woody Allen on them. We stood up Kelley O'Hara in the clues was a warrior Abdal Kemper face. Can we say nah on much doubted goalkeeper also had an incredibly solely gay and the US one other teams crumbled? The home team on home too. They were savvy enough to run the clock down. So farewell front so loss loss of a whole news players them repeatedly said post game to the French out possessed the Americans, but they couldn't do anything with possession, and they will gain too, and I thing and then moins it will cause them a hell in the way the French playwright Moliere, one said, we only die once I'm for such a long time of that line. Huge credit to our American women these plays who grew up dreaming of days like today in places like Peachtree city, Georgia Redman, California, wrote feel censored, yoke city, the dreams came true. And they made this belief finally today, we saw the real USA at will Cup two thousand nine hundred and it was bloody magnificent England the way in the semi final. We'll have an El blazer Erico played out on a global scale. Dave England against my view. For america. We go live in Nashville Tennessee, right after the game the beautiful poll theater. Kim ABI with this Tennessee, canopy. With Memphis Chattanooga, all you beautiful cities, tickets, OMON, blazers dot com comb, wait Taylor. Luanne. Is among the guests. We'll saying lymph now good team. Have an incredible tournament performance against no way. The made no way. Oh, afraid they made no way. A very good no way. Look, useless. Phil. Neville love this off to the game. We expected, nothing less snow being arrogant. We played five one five four clean sheets were having the time of our lives. This is a clash of two teams who both fail. It said destiny to win this tournament, they will collide America can win America will win as long as they remember. They didn't win the World Cup tonight. They'll be euphoria in that locker room they didn't win the World Cup tonight that have to reload. They have to refocus they know how to do that. They showed us that in two thousand fifty switching gears quickly yesterday at the chance to travel with producer, J dubs to Washington DC. We taped, the second episode of the way Mooney podcast. It's always a delight to talk of way. He's an amazing man. But to spend time with him the morning after the night before he dispatched that Sunder a sixty yard line drive. Into the Orlando city, go. Say it was just a joy. It's a kind of go from way downtown. The way scored three times in this career told me doesn't think about what's the best goal in his career you thinks about the main groups and this is is favor is long range goals from inside his own half. But what was fascinating to me was the hate it to move the not only practices regularly and training but he looks at the goalkeeping position if he can unleash it every game. He plays thing. I love most was I asked them. Do you have Phil embarrassed? What would happen? If you missed the crowds go. A love what he said what he said, how we responded to that life advice because way was on such extrordinary form. I won't play a small part of the podcast for you in tyrant of you. Vailable on a separate Wayne Rooney, putt cost feed available hair on men in blazers. If you like what you hear here, made sure you subscribe rate, and please review issues, you really bloody helps it's pathetic. But it really helps take a minute to do. All they subscribed rate review spread it to your friends hair is Wayne rate, a token about what it's like to football like every month dreams. Take it away. It's such a different type of stripe to typical which happened and instant won't goes to your money is just flying through that. Honestly, our new states ways soon Z, it's been one of the things we think about stranger is for the goalkeeper, don't dive 'cause, you know, come and go to make yourself look silly not actually genuine feel. This is Rhode ju- Bennett fa- men in blazes. It's training ground sitting here with Felli football loving son. The Liverpool DC United, Mr. Wayne Rooney. We back led the Jonas brothers. But we sure to hair way, it's great to see you. Good to see him episode of the Wayne Rooney podcast and the speed two cruise control. Police academy four citizens on patrol proof. Sequels hardway. You ready for this ready? Ready, Wayne, whenever we pulled and no two is not huge sample size. But whenever we pulled it feels that you've just done something remarkable. And we sit here the morning after the night before you scored that goal now seen around the world. Against all Endo city, the sixty yard tapping way. This is a good goal. Try to alter of I always try and be aware of where the goalkeeper's you constantly evaluating in games. Yes. Because opportunities to score a goal and people might think is sixty seventy way from goal. It is genuine opportunities time of score from a similar distance. So the first one with more loft financial against West Ham in two thousand fourteen earned the hook from marijuana Delaney of having an forever ten canes West Ham, again in two thousand seventeen but Joe hall was in goal for them. But West Ham, one, I actually didn't clean if you watch it was on the volley in the first western yet for money. United a little bit of swear on didn't cleans actually like to it went in the world. That's probably as cleaners visible ever perfect and the one yesterday when his heart technique is one ball again. Perfect. Or why wasn't this? For the goal of balls. Clements wards me and didn't have as much time. And first time, it's much technique can harder to get the accuracy you on. So I got one cleanable. One yesterday was more like a crossfield pass. We possibly integral. Talking it down this crossville passes and this crossville passes because I watched that goal. And I just shouted I'm big Al and I hit dingus, for those who didn't see it. Google was invented for moments like this. The ball came out the DC area tool and the players. Both went for it, somehow it bubble doubts. You're deep inside your own half. I think it was someone that Baltimore when the pool actually came. You talk three steps, Wayne look out once quickly and just dispatch, the cannon short technically in DC. It's known as wolf Blitzer. And it just flew what goes through your mind. It's quite an inch because I actually knew I was going to show from distance a few months before the goalkeeper seeing you quite files in his style humus high altitude Golan. So I knew throughout the game an opportune he was going to call together shorten. That's whether you get the time on the ball all the space. And then it actually to miss after seen him the ball. I'll glance to make sure he was still out. Knew he was going to be at least penalty sports if. So as soon as that ball bubbles to your at the thinking that might ten is clear look up release. Yeah. The important thing is not as a new beta time. But sometimes you can think of to get it off, as quick as a come because keep is out boy, it's actually better compulsion yourself and getting it right by not, you know, when the ball flies in is he exhilaration? Is it different to a normal? Run of the mill go are you aware in the second? Holy crap. I have just done something that is going to be shown all over the world tomorrow. This worldy is going to go viral a knowledge of special goal. I think the big difference, is you. In cloud in atmosphere, when you score normal Winstons, Connecticut television. But when you that it's almost like shock or disbelief in, you can actually other in those atmosphere. The you've just done something, this fused, all of these people in just giving them always now for the experience ECONET. It's different in quite sustained, feeling because they speak in a couple of people around DC, you know, heated this goal was not surprised you nearest and dearest. They said that you've been practicing in this talking about this. You've tried on a couple of occasions. It's not come off de practice. The skill seriously. More just crossbar challenge type of messing around the actually day before the game. I mean Chris taken practicing from halfway land young American international. Christopher we practice in it in the ball from the halfway line into the nest ball. No bounds. So we call it the Buckner I unfortunately, me golden founds for hungry certain. She send. Different types stripe to a typical which happens in an instant this is almost like an entire pro. It's an Oprah's. How'd you experience it for the time you straight the ball until it hits the back of the net? I mean, what did you so much time to wait, you could have gone to the sideline made a Cup of tea still flying goal-bound do you know as soon as you hit it. That's in honestly, our new way. One. Things a thing about danger is the goalkeeper, don't dive because you're not gonna go to make yourself look silly. And that's actually a genuine feeling thing just leave logo clues and keep it obviously dive for. A new there's not going to go there and then I'm sure in his wife at I for them in the NBA the one thing defended, there's an will be as poster is to be the guy under the dunk, this people whose careers have been ended Shawn Bradley great center, hoop was just his career was destroyed by being Dunton in that moment when you are exhilarate what you've just done you fill an empathy. You feel a sudden issue like mate just let that go in don't embarrass yourself. You feel for the victim. Remember, we want for money is interest. I'm the gawky ten and he fell over as a player when you hit the ball and you hit it right? You know the goal you know, Jim golden shit just stale. You feel do you worry about how bad, you look, if it doesn't come off just be way Rooney lush in the ball. Let it bubble for throw in going out way over the general think about because you do for you told me for Penn. Seizure, like, just don't miss. That's one of the things I say to. Teammate express yourself. Don't be afraid to make mistakes or give the ball away or not the short because if you're not going to try and you scare then you never going to do it. So I think it's important every player that mentality and fearlessness because I make mistakes game. It's my whole life. Big mistake, everyone makes mistakes in ninety minutes football game. And. Moment in games were the times, which count which Muslim if yet them moments. Right. And no one remembers mistakes where it does last night's drone strike. We were debating this on the way down where does it rank for you in your pumpkin of all time goals? Nice thing it's definitely meets five, it's append rarely because then gold almost separates, while Miller goals three goals from gotta student so that almost. Sepla than their own genre. Like which one of them, which you think is the best. And I think probably the best one, it's like pecan his blue period, you Wayne root eight my favorite long range. Oh. What did you watch? Please subscribe rage review, spread the word about this podcast schedule. I choose and search for the Wayne Rooney podcasts available. So on Spotify soundcloud, and all major and some minor podcasting apps. That's it for today. A lot of Raj. Go go USA Nashville. We come way to be with you. I love you Sissy. I'm gonna we all of your hot chicken extra. Extra extra hall go, go. USA courage.

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Men in Blazers 03/12/21: WGFOP: The Bald

Men In Blazers

26:28 min | 6 months ago

Men in Blazers 03/12/21: WGFOP: The Bald

"This is rebecca. Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub-optimal radio and you on this thing to men in blazers on the nbc sports network. It's day no just any friday. But the friday umbro men in places national team electric buca collapse hits the world which will me beyond belief i know marsh to the double diamond and the way it manifested itself into football's dna on both sides of the atlantic launch has been amazing thing. You particularly love. That drill talk with courage written across the bat. Why not a drill. Top synonymous with so many english legend. So many memories connick designed but these umbro checkerboard shorts. I've called similar now. That classic pillow on which the american game was built. You can grab the cup left yours now on embrace website just men and blazes into the search and we'll say it's been an owner for arrest partner with a historic grand and to support the magnificent veterans charity. Hope for the warriors in doing so. All i ask is this. Please please send us. Feta's your cells in this double diamond magic on social using hashtag. Moab when you get the raven delivery to the football. It's not just any football weekend say new flood the weekend. So let's dive in we'll touch upon the current dilemmas facing christie and pulisic to chelsea. This is an action. Polled is incredible. Don't take that for me. Let's ask an expert pep. How good the action. These action is really incorrect deepal cripple. Oh thanks mate. Let's take your thing along bald foggy. That was bulled. And funky by marcus richie. And you're listening to wgn fo- p the bald the weekend preview way you phone in your questions. And that's about as funky as he gets. Kindly leave your messages. Six four six four five zero nine four seventy we will give they don't really funky answers must stay. Thank you to the center of this podcast. 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I'm i'm excited for the north londonderry. I'm confused personal interest. Taking turns to be the team on the rest or the team on the basketball says six training hopeless make sense or should go teams governors hippo wish. I knew what china london. You're going to be rooting for on sunday. And i could trump be more specific but yes eight as north london darby weekend also hosts taught them sunday twelve thirty pm eastern time embassy and northland and football fans. I can't keep up with the twist and turns of the season. Either for the clubs at lived out. Careening rollercoaster footballing campaigns. Kintu the salk buerskens theater masks. Which comedy and tragedy return alie intertwined mckellar tetter his team in tenth place. It's not nothing and if ever man's desperate to conjure sign a progress weekend we cow him. he's cisa i with the good. How ever he's zero fatigue on northland adobe day so far and less time out. He was so naive. The only man who hasn't heard that then k. Live the love to counter and joe shame marini punish arsenal so bloody easily. Make it to some heading back to the top of. Oh my god. Talk about a monetary really cruel. Joseph was selling which is to say. If you wash show signs of progress there could be no better way than to deliver victory against you. Dread rivals taught them who are currently on a gareth. Bale man burn inspired resurgence fifth. Possibly sick second coming of the season depending how you keep count. And of course. Be honest with you if i was also fan. I'd already feeling of dread patronizing sting of a jew say post-match consolation next slap the only show of our winner in this game will be those choon there's rubbernecking neutrals you know the ones nascar. What just live for pileups. Nhl fans who live for the fights. You who you are. It would have been a foul. But also got the advantage of mike dame china rumba presents for us go from thomas. Presents gate simply has to school see are still. You can't have nice things. And if you could get mike dean to play advantage you can believe anything is possible next question. Please roger joe from nashville tennessee. Prior to the pandemic. I started following the premier league for the first time. My neighborhood bar is a meeting place for west ham supporters. So i jumped aboard at the bottom of the table in two thousand nineteen. I was hoping that you could provide some perspective to a rookie like myself. I was born in cleveland. Browns family and i never expected for them to have an eleven five season with victory over pittsburgh in the playoffs each week with a guest and knowing how american football works in cleveland i need to embrace that success with humidity in an attempt to guard my heart from disappointment. How should i be processing the iron success this year. Where do i need to keep my expectations. Can i allow myself to get attached to these players antonio my goodness i appreciate any advice. Thank you sir. Joe from that beautiful city of nashville yeah. Let's forget the northland. The dhabi s we can say by the david moi's darby subtitle. How no fury. Like a boy. Spurned and the blinky one returns to old trafford searching for his first win. This is being dumped unceremoniously. By you know he said. And i'll say joe you picked a great time to be a hammer. The ions fifth-place bubbles surging optimism around that face collective who have been the stealth delight of the season. The reality is if you ask any west fan who've been around the block low bit say those who remember two thousand fifteen sixteen and you'll know west ham. Optimism can be short lived to meet trae pyatt and filling a season of which dreams are made of and the carol mckellen tonia banging in the goals and it will prove to be fool's gold but to say i believe david moyes wants this this redemption. This second coming. He's like full pulling off the character. A name back. I want my name back. They took my name. And so you team. Very much moisture. Self-image are fantastic to watch all parts making your whole which is so much more like a fish prepare to fly coiled in any glasgow coffee punch him out. Ask questions begbie yes role. Model champion signaled the question. Day which probably an anathema. I imagine for most of noises play and i imagine feed vein is squad by explaining it to the as an opportunity for a couple weekends in europe on the lash is a reminder of what west ham happiness sounds like as deserved jew and it is magnificent. Next question hi rise. This is benjy from boston. Supporter the us men and women Doing some some thinking about the prolific situation and there was a moment back in january when the press was all over politic corrects to go on an asteroid as pronunciation. You think that was it. Think christians should have just kept his mouth. Shut not corrected. His new boss is that the reason why he's on the bench. What do you think like benji. La boston or miss your beautiful city. Yeah cast your mind back january. Twenty seven th gates walls to holes first game. There was a short on the sideline where double t. was screaming at his place from the brench. Typically at dave and overcame a giggling krisztian keva and corrective. You could lip read. You can always hair it. The two who was pronouncing s p wrong. Didn't cover his mouth. Didn't they football as a proper football as cover them out when they speak. No matter what the same hello could well played great game. Cover that bloody mouth christian. Didn't and so. You're wondering great question. Benji from boston is too cold. Who then subsequently publicly loft is owned. Mistake is actually the coin vogue who doesn't like to be publicly corrected and so all of this is vengeance and humiliation theory. Good theory but i do believe that theory on the minds. They fumble rational explanation positive by numerology. S who believe christians should never have taken the number ten jersey. What was he doing taking that. Same number the damian s believe there are evil spirits paying the price. Look i feel for krisztian tartar. Believe this to remember their spur project restock. He was the first day on chelsea's team mcvay surging runs explosive. Play his complete and utter confidence. He made the premise. Look easy and now. He's not play more than forty five minutes. A primarily game during the two clovers appoint needs more playing town simple with the world cup. Twenty twenty two on the horizon and say what we get. We get the english transfer rumor. Mill churning hair she messy move away to liverpool and buying i feel from his off chelsea has just been emotionally confounding. Not slow stall. Let's not forget that but she overcame with tenacity playing the football of his dreams and then to be kneecapped again by the management transition. Tommy to us has chelsea unbeatens. He cohen argue with him. Pumas cruelly keeps preaching patients to christian the young american who must be a wilted draw strength from the fact that the legs katie bay. Most mosala romola khaki will use being ditch by chelsea as a springboard to fulfilling their full potential huge marks to collect he as an incredible troll areas addressing christian. Sit you this morning. I had to chelsea's early saturday morning game against leeds if he starts tomorrow and if he does brilliantly and if he starts again against athletico and if he scores again to goes and if he's maybe he's the captain next year. I don't know. I know what you what you mean but this is. This is too far ahead. We have so many games and he is in my plans and he's important player and he has the potential. He has the potential to be decisive for us from the bench and as a beginner is necessary that he can prove it. Yes so this is my job and his job is to be ready to be ready like everybody else and when it comes the moment you have to be ready this this is what you sign up foreigner in la chelsea. There's no difference between christian and anybody else hashtag free christie and pulisic to the next. Hey rod this. Is stephen thorne from norman oklahoma manchester united fan. Now that we've seen messy and rinaldo get knocked out of the champions league at the round of sixteen and the champions league quarter-finals without in all over the first time since two thousand five what has to happen to get messy and rinaldo in the same week again before they say their farewells and retire in the mls You know where they have to go. There's gotta be manchester messy. Reuniting with pat and manchester city and rinaldo going to manchester united manchester. Darby have a wink and a handshake and say let's do. This can happen rods. Courage mighty steve. He's still alive. Look i would love. Ronaldo messi to face up to each other in the same league add so the world's guaranteed to that narrative match up after match chop also left cassette tapes the comeback as a crucial technology that we all communicate to each other with through mix tapes. I'd love my hair to grow back. I love nostalgia love wallowing in memory to magnificent thing. But i've got to break the news while we'll never see the likes of messing ranaldo at that peak again we will never see messy manelli at that peak again. If you'll pap and you're watching your city play near flawless football in you can brush aside all come as without being able to touch the bloody bull for much of the game. You look messy messy and declined look at the narrative you'll bring of messy adjusting to manchester life of messy deals with english weather of messy coping with the premier league. Meyer thing. yeah yeah. It'll i think that will improve the squad. It's madness to me to be honest when you weigh that against war copied them where those wages when you think about your actually buying. Yes the greatest player that i have ever seen with my own eyes on the down. Still the brand luster for sure on the commercial side but look renaldo event us for all the label brand luster and the instagram likes and the social follows. What exactly did it by. The cost was a piece this week in the independent miguel delaney rate about how. Psg intentionally overpaid for neymar so that they could set the market high so high that only the petro dollar fuel teams could compete at that level. Barcelona tried to keep playing that level. Look that finds his real madrid. I mean peirce. J. manchester city. They'll like poker players. Do go all in every hand as a result messier. now there's wages that ridiculous level so few teams can afford the and then why would they want. They want current for when as many syria funds of tweeted. Now this became a huge artillery piece. The needs to be wheeled into place looted and then aimed in order to fire and that devastating impact so let. The room is a big moves to where melissa began into miami. Were meant to be glamorous and yes yes credit them. They've given the world. The phil neville rhone sure cross partnership that we've craved. Pandemic po post pandemic. Mls you look at the league. Look at the roster's you see. the best. young american talents have all decamp for europe. You see the big name european play. They are thin on the ground right now. So let's just say this watching messy trudge off the champions league field for possibly the last time in a boss luna jersey. This was incredibly affecting for sixteen years. We've witnessed him and they light up the tournament given us transcendent moment. After transcendent moment that we will treasure for life we should never take them for granted. One of the singular joys of my sporting life has been watching their greatness. One last question please. Hello raj this is russell from walla. Walla washington long manchester united fan and he recently lost beloved chocolate lab. Mcneese who schettino so. I have two questions i how do we adequately more for a small law in the face of global tragedy and two should name our next job. Jose courage. Well i am so sorry feel loss russell and i can tell you a real. You know heated found naming your dog after the manager. You wish club had appointed. I would say do not minimize the loss of good doggie in the face of global tragedy. I know i know that the loss of a pet can be as excruciating as a loss of human being the absence the memories the unique individual. He's been with you in good times and bad and who will not be there again. The awareness of impermanent majority that surround us all not talk about today. Actually stay on which chris the left. Sheffield you know heated. An incredible story an incredible human being a man who grew a sheffield united fan as a kid became. I a player then manager took that club fulham power from the third tier against all odds into the premier league big time on a minuscule budget by forging a true collective wave underappreciated tactical accurate ambitious willing passion. Missile remarkable lit the premier league last season with overlapping centreback. They finished ninth. Should've could've been higher this season. Not so much. And i spent time with chris while the lost year. And i've got to say. I adore demand his authenticity. His intelligence is honest the jewelry which he attacked life itself. I'm telling you this rush so with the blades about to re relegated and all at one magic a memory frittering away how do we remember sheffield to we remember chris wildest tenure and i'd say you had a believe chris while the would be the first to cosign forget the darkness. Remember him by the fantastic moments the unexpected glory the unreal wins the tenacity in the face of naysayers and proof that everything is possible. And so i'd say the same via dog please. Don't call j. the new and actually call him pull dog. I'm going to leave you. With some chris walled up in the memory of your loss his chris waldo at its finest and drunk s. Two thousand seventeen is t would just one fancied unfavored promotion from league one to the championship. Each meeting the press for the first time and he is drunk. He is very drunk and chris while the loses himself in the story of how every time he gets his haircut he has to walk. Pau sheffield city hall. Where is long the celebrating. United success with the fans only tells a story his way. Reliving the walk from the car to the bogus pass. Various nightclubs shoutout to hope pants various nightclubs. He's been through. And i won't tell jokes. Athen's fountains drunkenly for intake. And just the whole thing is the message about life really. Life is up and down filled with joy and darkness wonder and loss memories while you can and then save his chris world up. We'd be back monday until carriage on all the songs saw nominees to teach any of this song scuff up show them sumo Took another drink access. I've just not enough another one. And i'm like this is the way my maya didn't right. This is this is. What's in my head football in bubble. The you're in football for every three weeks. He coined every three weeks apart in cobra virus by an uphill against a kit. A paul king cobra us awoke past the ciccio pants. I used to go in every sunday. Night heavy shot every two weeks than i ever went down there. A walk of dived of dived into the the old fountain of foul fog me chart mount sought. I i that. He was shocked. We pushed him in. the founding. intelisano often arrogant we supposed to. We pushed him in the found in may where we powell's we push him in the fountain. Welcome to chef etta paddock. Green flush trainers on and we went. We game rid of them. Pushed him in the founding. Joe wallpaper josephine's amny times the albanian that are being refused entry when we play as we'll pass josephine's through bull pasta ciccio look soap and looked up and saw what my opinion and then passed. It won't chancery straight talk. Plus the news agents on the left we'll pass. I'm giving some plugs out. Air all past lynn's pantry. Lynn punchy on the left hand side. we'll punch inside a more. I'm giving my right plug as well taylor. Taylor's addresses every three weeks. And every time i so i'm thole what's gonna happen in my. We'll see if we if we produce them we that we've had every three weeks. I'm i even gave right seriously. Sal and you don't have to work amir because he's going a little bit because i'll give him a tape right game tickets and he never knocked me any money off any lie to hand over my head. Maybe we'll get a free one. Listen chris we've got left to say congratulations cake. The mayor's chain of events you will let me i out. She should leave a way. Can i can wear.

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De fortabte snner vender hjem

Ufiltreret

42:49 min | 1 year ago

De fortabte snner vender hjem

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Liverpool's Freefall Continues After Derby Loss

ESPN FC

56:50 min | 7 months ago

Liverpool's Freefall Continues After Derby Loss

"In solicitation of spnfz. I'm don thomas lots to talk out today. Later on the show via reflecting on the league leaders losing in both germany and spain things ofo though in the premier league everton with the two nil victory atom against liverpool in merseyside. Darby frank leboeuf craig burley and stevie nickel heads reflect on that. Win side stevie. I feel compelled to start with you. Sum it up for us will do the only thing that kids elliot's that was completely and utterly well deserved no stage this game that ever look uncomfortable or or under any real pressure Yes john peck for the couple of good saves but the truth is they will. They will more of a surprise when they came shots than the naturally liverpool dead. An open play to break down only just simply couldn't break them down for the first team recently ended the day that was a perfect performance from the l. goal and then you had a great defensive line and then defended well the second goal for the panel t to know thanks for common Liverpool can of no complaints craig. We've talked at length about the injuries. Of course justifiably. So why liverpool struggling so much this season and how it affects them going forward jordan henderson dropping back but even when they're in the attacking third for me no salary money in the pass. It looked like they were gonna score every time they had the ball. Now they clueless. You just don't know what's going you don't know what they're going to be the liverpool that were a threat and leipzig. Almost every time went forward all the one that struggled to many times in the premier league season and it was a lot of today again and everyone had applaud defensively strongly foster possession. Stevie said butler was good godfrey and kimber. What accident the plot was not put kalman and the right side in midfield he could play. Dropped back into the field. Back to make a five to nullify. Andy robinson an ego onoda of hamas rodriguez pleading not let hold behind richarson. And then it was clever at the end of the game was a no brainer. Because you've got to an experienced that offs you bring calvin on who's not go alongside richardson. And you've got the big too heavy us up front really pressurized liverpool already creek so clever from from angelo in terms. How we went about et wasn't rocket science but got his personal right talk straight from liverpool perspective. It's a flat frontline on about four. That was with set. Just just not good enough land win watch more than now. They school staving. Well listen the completely that happens. It's just unusual hops. Three one take the other thing is because of the changes in the middle of the park. The not getting the ball as quickly as they used to be which means that they don't have as much space and when they don't get the ball is quickly and the only of his face for the even more numbers behind the ball so you aren't all of these things up then then it's a it's a real struggle plus plus basically you looking say the has had the had. The energy seems like suck toe of a whether it's just energy a confidence you name. It has been sucked outta and every time you step on the field you always think is not going to get any worse but then again today with jordan henderson going on so right now for liverpool in liverpool players. They're hanging on really hanging on desperately for well for any of them including phone going forward and frank inevitably with all these injuries come in and he hasn't particularly convincing at the back look soft. Aren't they defensively. They do but they don't have the choice to try. Something and now. That anderson is in jud fabio. We don't know what he's going to be back very soon. But i think as i said already clump us to to try with the with the defensive. Maybe an inexperienced defense but still we sent her house. E got Davis during the wintertime and yes philipps and quebec. Es to try to to create the to center city we need until the end of the season and in fact reset the midfields on was forbidden. You and maybe there's some when he's going to be back. We talked about that. And i really think that if it doesn't work the free at franz is because anderson's there because family knew is not there as well because We can talk about the champion of the way place if he's a good signing on art you know i knew club tried to defend him but it doesn't play the where liverpool wants to fly which is more direct football and i saw under some coming into the middle in the in the mid fazon during the first half and it's when liverpool was quite dangerous and pickford made good saves but the only time when liverpool created something. He's with and this and when into the middle of the fox but now he's injured i think davies assigned for that is not coming from a big club is coming from the champions league championship. Sorry he asked to be tried as a central defender and we can have good surprise choice. He's starting injuries. Wow it just one thing. I think the one thing that i would say frank as well as maybe the one criticism of club. I'm an criticism in terms of the pleasant. They vote because that's factual i mean. It's been horrendous injury run. I don't remember them ever ever trying to to fight us scenario as you said it might be. I tell you what today we're going to have alexander donald robinson as the box and i'm going to have a black three so i'm going to give be cow back in some predict protection by putin a henderson. Then maybe as a thought said a half sweeper just to try something because it's quite clear more often than not not all the time but when they play these guys at the but then getting exposed them. I don't remember them setting off for my head's changing the shape without lighting. And i think that could be one seventy say okay. You like the four. This engineer list is so bad that you might have to try some different coin. As i don't know what the exact figures are out in the champions league but i would. A budget is going to be quite hefty and this time when when klopp don already seems hide. Some internal Nick shall we say about bringing players. Ed both in the summer. Transfer window under seems to be some disagreements between ham thing directors on the owners about what the budget is. Now obviously if you get monday gomez back then that solves that and they should be back next year but the other areas of the team going to have to strengthen if we're now them legion the free transfer a backup for for for for mental when these forms. A an striker and these are going to cost money. And if you're not in the champions league saintly gone to fake became the budget the club's gonna be dealing with come the summer. I just wanna go back to the game. Stay obviously the second goal in the end to now. It wasn't that relevant but it sealed the deal for everton penalty for you and the reason. I think it was a penalty. The answer is yes and the reason it was apparent is because alexander raul question. Make sure our is making sure of calvert. Lewin is going to be able to stay only speak. He's not getting over his right leg. How did you just left these leg. The way i would have questioned because it seems to me that culvert learn as the one that can runs into the back of him but as soon as alexander around clearly lefties right leg just to make sure that get into it then for me. That's when it becomes a penalty kick. Frank do agree. No i don't i'm still wondering if stevie so the action. And so a calvin leaving hitting the alexander heads and the back of his head before falling. So how alexander local prevent that and avoid a knee in the back of his head to to to not to not be touched by calvert lived and to avoid that kind of hit. And i don't i don't understand. I don't understand that penalty really. I was really upset. Well of course he's really meant as you said he won't change the thing to everything they had to do to win. That game deserve to get really went to frank like two seconds and say penalty. I don't get it. Frankie's is done as he's he's given the rare easy for the referee. That's what he's done you know there's this point of panel is the the only given because you've given the referee decision to make that follows around just keeps his feet on the floor and it's not apparently the fact that he clearly razor to make sure that call balloons not getting makes an easier decision for the referee. And that's why he gives a penalized because it's an easier decision. I'm sorry i didn't see that. So maybe you're right but does he. Does he put his leg up after he's hitting the in his head or before as it's falling after as he's falling is craig's the buck kowloon strikes. The bike of alexander ronald and is falling. He's not going straight down he's somewhat fallen and he still looks as always going to get to the ball. But then alexander. Arnold then reasons these leg and the i'm the referee and i'm going well and then an collages known then if i'm the referee then a that's that's given me an excuse to give apparently k sell but getting there okay. Okay so seeing that we go back to. Barcelona are essential in fact. There is a penalty against our because he hits with his knee do young cuffs. So as long as long as somebody makes a mistake or mix of fouled. Sorry the first is should be punished. So who is the first the other calvert in although he doesn't lewd lou. Well cal. alexander around old has gone to grow right to make a challenge as he's gone to ground calvin loons momentum takes him into the back of alexander. Arnold is clear. But i'm saying i'm saying because he lifts his leg. It makes it easy for the referee panel a refugee all these down. Trae gordon you think. I think we can't. We can't we can agree to disagree stevie by rethink like income. The results are in from the university. Song context scotland's to france great. Should it be sent high. Do you think it should be sent off. All yes absolute record for because people will say well look at davos louise's against wolves. Obviously that there's intent. He got the red card and then even and they appealed it. They didn't they all agrees done. We will agree that stupid to send off a debbie lewis so we couldn't carry on. We can korean and seeing that on top of alexander nor should be sent off we. We can agree to disagree on the penalty but asking for red card immunex completely. No sense for me. Guy doesn't even see covered living at first where you can't send gothic louise off and then reject the rejected the appeal correct. Yes yep and reject the appeal and then whether we like a not have a set rules for another player different club the should not be adjudicating. The games in mono because what's good for the good is good for the garden and know louise's renault made no attempt to play the ball. I'll play the mind. It was a bureaucracy but it was a penalty kick. he saw red. And so if we're all stand by the letter of the law whether we think strip it or not then technically he should have gone. Because he wasn't the ball is not to be one stevie. I can cook my good friend. Masuku bully okay. Let's move on sally and you focus gain. That's this cornish muff. Yes i do down. And of course no wins in six going into this game. However they managed to get point at saint. mary's. I'm going to start with a big talking about because i finally fascinates in the hudson and situation school subbed on and then subbed off. The big question. Mark is whether or not he was injured. He was not. Thomas said he did not like his body language and attitude out there. We've talked about this before boys. And and i know you said this is one of the biggest insult you can throw a player. Yeah something's i've looked at it that way but an old fitness to mess may surprise. I don't know but no famous to trickle know that. He's komo an unexplained illness he's come out and publicly explain. Why did it i can. I can do with the manager here because he's trying to. He's going into this up has reknowned for oven. Public struggles have been big players sock. You left right and senators come in a difficult period. That trying to the top for. He knows what's expected of them. And these lay down. And he's trying to kneel though natalie and he said i was not happy with again and i was asking for an adult lightly attitude and i think he's send a message to the other players know you could look at it and i don't know what the boys are going to say. We have not discussed this But you could look at it and say well that's how you lose a player or you could look at it and see it's gonna make the rest of the dressing room set up because he's not frightened to make these calls hudson dogs. Don't forget has been a player has played a lot since typical awakes. Them a really likes sitting. Might even play in the champions league and mid me. But i did not like he said why scene from the player and i expect better and for that reason on this occasion. I'm going to go in the monitor site. Stevie one of actually done this a guy on with twenty minutes to go and check them off with five minutes to go. And if i could have me tell you all. I would definitely definitely because you're taking him a fairly case. No i think in the case of toco took it quite easily. Have taken of james and just moved hudson doi and then afterwards it can either berea and addressing room in front of the team or take him on his own and say look. I want happy with the way you were gonna pay this Could've taken your by dead and that way you you still have an gore but you're keeping them on site. I mean it's going to be hard for him. Have hudson only say he's completely humiliated them by taking them off in the first place and then he goes and the press and completely humiliates mcgann's so he's doubled down on it so i i think he's gone the wrong we about other children i did. I did it once. And i would definitely with completely different way again because a completely lost to play golf right It was a complete humiliation for me. And i don't understand that is behavior. I understand what craig said. I agree with him. The favorite players for for for toco and use them lots. He brought him back into the. I live in as soon as he time for chelsea. So what he's trying to do. I'm going to use them for. I think he's like a dog going into shock and trying to pee everywhere to make sure that he's going to design all these territory and it's what is doing right now is i'm going to take my favorite player. And if he's not good. I'm going to put him out. I want i want to know why. And how he doesn't put out completely disappear was really average. First off completely disappeared the second off but it was an estate in one thousand nine minutes on the field. I don't get it. And i think it was some other players coverage was awful the second half and never seen combat. She's losing so many balls in the second half but he went up but none like like that. You can do that. You can bring somebody in and put it out twenty minutes after. That's horrible for twenty years old person. I talked to him after. I'm gonna play you in the chimpanzee. But you don't do that but i think for me. It's just that it's just what i expected me for. He did like a dog on the on to create his territories territory. Moscow failed has way whether we like it tinkered at minds thank dormant presume meeting could be s james. Maybe not today expect but very reactive was a court. You can see it on. Touch light adopt. Been me not scenario. would i up in unhappy. Ullivan kicking the doors in to his office. Don't absolutely i'm not the individual. And he he's the manager sent friends and you're right. I mean there was a load of these players. Were awful again. missing again. was the most liveliest platelet hod. This guy supposedly only got game. Because he was lumped pods favorite. I mean what a what. A bunch of muppets lose. We're talking about here. He hasn't said a young guy with specific extra instructions. Talented guy and he said it wasn't because he made mistakes wasn't because it wasn't good on the ball was because he was doing the things they wanted and sending a message here and he he will listen a tough strategy games coming up no chelsea starting in mid week but some of the bigger and the primarily coming up so he's going to pretend to live and die by these decisions we'll find out but what we can't escape israel off the back in this substitution as a smokescreen jokes who were pre ov again. I mean it was. It was five hundred posses a goal again. I mean there was like twenty five minute period half a period in the first half they never show a goal and had possession for the sake of it. And that's been one of the things we've noticed so far as tickles. Teams have been lots and lots and lots of possession most of the time the result today. The doesn't have a big talking point and he's got some games coming up so it's going to be interesting to see what the reaction is from both hudson on this chelsea squad. What was wrong with them today. Saving you put your finger on because it was the same. When when when frank was there seventeen games and there were great going forward And the move. The ball quickly and decree johnson school goals and then it stopped and then frank go to villa and then the brought to kalin and it hasn't changed in my is going forward. The there's no difference the the not create any more chances of scoring anymore goals and then they did we. Frank so i i don't see any change. I think after this italian has a has to be who's plan Has to be the three because he has to find the best three. The actually can play with each other and to do that is going to have to make a decision and then give them time. Because yeah again. It's a change in personnel. Which is what we celebrate. Frying we give him frank pill say look you need to decide on a up and give them some time played together and the same thing is going on with toco and nothing changing. Because i'm not creating and not school not many goals so done with that. They lost lost by gold today. When when you know completely against the run and play and you know whether it was uh split. I'm not talking zuma. Just not seeing the running behind them. You take your peck. It was probably zoom to hide themselves in better position but everybody appeal been token of stadiums. Talking to goals. All people have been talking about the clean sheets but but not smoking. Meta's when you actually look at it okay. Keep a clinton sheet today. You look at the teams. They played foster foremost worlds with hoffa squad. Never got over the highly over the halfway lead bundling holly over the half wheel and really do newcastle. Holly over the halfway light and then the dead. Keep a clean. She member says mary against taught them. And guess what taught them. Don't do titan attack so actually played a law teams who spend most of the team and their own half defending. That's telling you more white have been keeping clean sheets rather than this fantastic shift. Three the back and hudson dogs coming in and alonzo commend s. Been saying moore the opposition than what is being any tickle changes. He's made some changes. Don't get me wrong shape and personnel. But that's not why they've been keeping clean sheets. The possession attack wise have been dire- athletico madrid manchester united liverpool and everton. Next four matches. Frank beat is going to be a real test and and we're going to see where we can put chelsea. I'm not convinced. offensively and strike mention. I'm not convinced defensively because right now where we tried. I mean mr tickle tried a split quitter and reese james on the on the right side and i guess he doesn't work And to and to so that question on the on the goal conceded. It's mostly espy. Quit doesn't cover. Zuma doesn't work rejects. Who wants to go forward when he doesn't have the ball and they don't get the ball back so they have to work together. The really afterward defensively he they want to be very solid and did not right now and a straight mentioned in the team that they played against got the kitchen and teams going to go forward. So we're going to see very soon what i chelsea. That's for sure boys as always thank you very much. Be sure to join us on the next edition of the show Premier league matches of course on sunday e colluding awesome against them much. We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach with ibm helps retailers. Manage supply chains with watson. I while predicting demands with ease. The world is going hybrid with ibm. Visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud for beat by munich. Fight two goals to one eight thoroughly deserved wayne steven craig. Still with us and we walk into this show as well. Y'all fuel off with us is a former eintracht. Frankfurt striker enjoyed this. Yeah it was fantastic especially fifteen twenty minute of the game dominated by and come on a one nil. Nf time task goal from yoenis brought brought them up to two nil but always expect by to to come back. Of course levin doffs ski scoring after fifty two minutes. And you think well he's gonna end to five of them. Normal by three gets built at home. I know they're losing to frankfurt. And if tomorrow can win maybe it can happen to battling germany. Ip nice when forever. I'm craig is. John mentioned ski school. You you're gonna come back and win this game. We've seen them do of course on previous occasions this season but they did wind didn't they because they don't have the cutting edge that moment in time the without traumas military railway is with with the kovic since he's telling from the club world cup so as so there's a few different five dozen there obviously lost tiago to ever few months ago. So he's been a he's a playmaker fulham you know. People were talking about him at liverpool. Those does not guys one without been been a great asset to the team. So lucia different factors. But frankly this game could have been dead and buried at halftime. I mean not. Stop her many teams track front for everton to move forward to look. We're going to get some some great goals. Yes kevin trump had to make some good saves when quite when required but but yeah i never thought when levin dos. Well that's eight front funds number up now but no. They hung in and they could've added to their tally before the game. First half. cvs anyone what was wrong with buying. I'll say it was when we buy shula was playing right back was only buying. I mean listen. You can argue the in the middle of the park buying the struggling to control anthony. They will the same against baylor field. But we have when you don't have the ball in the middle of the park. The opposition you schiller at raped by against each who just wants to go out and get it pasta and what balls in. Then you're in big trouble not pay plus pretty much. What did we just can't file not polluted lifetime site when shula and and then chaos ensured even even the second goal would still wasn't white and was in the middle it didn't cause unit stone and he just stuck it in the talk call so combination of plane playing pleasant or wrong spot plus no control and the middle of this park and again you boys have said when eleven does scored that was looking at two to five minutes after that things. Were back to qena normal. No really wasn't an awful lot between the two sides stood shoot of other pantley. Ho ho ho. You can look at how you can look a var and not see multiple foles here by alphonso davis never mind evo multiple an end up giving buying the through on as way beyond me. Stevie smith on sale georamas to nicholas zulu knows and these very more of an isolated felt bad for the lake. You yeah i mean. He's like whatever done to deserve to be weighed against a guy who just wants to run a full box and certainly be. I mean the comes a stage when it's his fault but it's it's it's a point as well boys. We're talking down by in. But i think now we just have to talk a bit about frankfurt as well. They were missing top scorer silva he wasn't in there. Your which are not a great kennedy was there. I think the key to enter france without the moment they are sold. They are good organized with commod on your nerves in that position behind the striker they are hard to take on. I'm cost costed. I mean he's on fire at the moment with his assistant. Like steven was saying taking people on. And i'm so impressed with android. Now that they were before this this round. Nine points ahead of dortmund. Don't of course bounce back but it's just unbelievable to see frank who team who has been. Reinvented the last couple of years. Being up there with the best the voice in germany. I have to done. It does look all quote watching necklace. Shula play phil box. I them seen them dirt this year. He's done are more than one occasion but it just it just doesn't look right and stevie said he is clearly fisher water there but but i know that store a numbers by but one of the things are for in my son. When greece was coming on. I thought he couldn't catch back to right by because we know like love was in these day can do fill back in the midfield job. Probably equally israelis each other. And i thought always putting chemicals to right because cost is a big threat. But he didn't do that. And and quite frankly i got the feeling when not via decision was made. Kara highs reminiscent got hygiene bottled these way wherever slush the guy the way what i'm dealing with s because tell me a plan that goes to droned on this kind of scenario will the contact is intentional. Stevie said there was a little contact with a leg. Intentional ho the hell. Derek tells us everything in germany's the greatest this panel cost intr- frankfurt neon. But what you have here as the big boys always get the right decisions. They always get a call and it's hard to argue when you see something like this. But we have the craig craig. We had a discussion on twitter about that situation. Of course it was a clear penalty. It was a red card for davis. And of course the point would have liked to score that goal against bion. But if if derek saying that everything is perfect in germany ask him about the first head of our there he. He was fired because people thought he was a shell. Qifan imagine down in germany. God laws loss. I was wondering i formally substitutions were strange creation. I going ray bike It didn't happen and you to one dome with a few minutes to go. And you take off sunny and on harvey martinez. How was thinking. Wh why would she do the redmi. Taking king's coleman off and an under john. I'm thinking that second one just threw me for the loop. I'm thinking i. I make no sense whatsoever. Flex gotta have to look into murder as well. I play is never flake first. Proper tests yan journeys tanya because it's been all roses so far. Yeah you'd have some. There was some rumors but between him and h. It's the head of sports of course about different. Pla- asc use alibaba. He wants to use blat tang and the people in and around the club. They want the play more or less on the way. All club said it officially no. He's a verbal agreement with real madrid. But it's not not signed yet bulletin on its way out and he loves to play them on and then hamas each and some of the other big guns surrounded club on to play other players so slowly. It's starting to be there. But i think craig said it. It has the name. Thomas miller because in these kind of games when when they are a bit down when a need someone that to get him going again get an energy get that spirit into the team that is always thomas miller and he at the moment is not available. Meanwhile the big davi today peru dalton flashing shell cup by full l. Earning harlem with a brace one of a brilliant scissor kick jadon sancho getting assists and a gold as well and the two of them ought. You're in top after the game. Link harlan jaden sancho water. Day for both you and borussia dortmund. Firstly erling haaland. What did you make of jaden. Sanchez goal was a nice goal in Yeah he grabs grabs a goal and assist today and he has to keep going to to get the to get What's it called scoring points. Goal is It's important for him and Yeah it's a pleasure to be with this guy. Sancho what did you make of erling. Haaland i call. It didn't surprise me. I know that Am i surprised the fans out there but you know i this guy and training every day and he puts in the and you know he does some crazy things and training so today. I'm not surprised but it's a great goal. We'll credit to this man and you know he has two free points. And i'm just happy again. Claiming feminists such such a great feeling for me. And you know because every time i could are no. He's going to score so linked to ask you about that goal as well. Can you describe what was going through. Your head is. The pool came through. The air was expecting the defendant to be a little bit closer to me but he wasn't so So yeah i just okay. I can shoot the ball so and then i did so was a perfect timing. And yeah as i said the good dessus from this guy and Yeah it was a nice goal in we keep going and hit it. Well you very much david jaden. Are you aware of the significance of winning this game. By i think the perfect scoreline in the eyes of borussia dortmund fans the fact that you win it Zero to four. Yeah i played in these games a few times now in no way means that the fans and today was a was a big day for us and renew renewed to come out here today and show the fans that we keep this the fighting spirit and shore good performance of husseini defense can be to celebrate for us so i think the end as you saw all of our celebrate and that's what it means to us obviously the fans so. I'm sure the fans could feel the vibe for the tv today. And you know i'm just happy that we a free points and you have to keep on this one and just finally erling. We had announced earlier this week. That mark rosa will be the next coach. Bruce dortmund you've worked with him before a bird how much you looking forward to working with him again. Yeah i mean have here with him. And i played five games in total so hopefully I'll be in plans. I think you just might be hopefully both these youngsters. Tearing up of course in particular erling haaland twenty seven twenty five matches so far this season. Yeah not i got was a bit special. It was simply brilliant. And i mean this week. We saw a game against severe against two great center. Ha funny scored two goals. He's first half that champions league game. It's the best. I've seen him since he came to two dobermans. Brilliant anyone out today with people compare him mbappe is got to be the new big thing in town after messiaen. Cristiano renaldo is still very hungry. I don't wanna talk about. He'd be in the best player in the world. I'm just saying what he can do. Best in the world is to create space for himself. And if you have a very exact luke that gold he takes him away takes him away and then the cross from santa comes in and you see you can just see the defender. Well i checked if he takes it onto onto chest. I would have him. But i let him have volley because there's too difficult. He will never get that anyway and boom. It's a candidate for goal of the season in the german bundesliga and then he does the same in second get another gold but death. First goal absolutely brilliant. Those kind of always be seen them over the years people do not to hold on. He's twenty forty three games for forty three golds not about staff and it's not far away from harland overall of course a big three points versus and not necessarily as looking to close the gap by meaning but close the gap on the top floor. Unbelievable because they fired fab to come closer to buy munich a now. They find himself before this game against shelf. You say there was a last chance for shelf. Does it could be a difficult game. But they are so bad. I mean they couldn't beginning second half there were okay but still formulas a massive resolved before this game a nine points behind volts nine points behind i funk with with bag goal difference today there one day scored four goals. They're up there with the goal difference with the two teams had a look at the program of of Of a story of -dorsements next game at home they have trouble to to break dome. Those kind of teams but still. I've seen something that talked to do. The players indoor from what. I found now. They found that they have to battle harder. They can't do these. Indoor kind of football play that columbia used to do in the ninety s. They have to battle for the points. And that's what i do. The last two games. Thanks just a shame shame. Diners airline highlands coming through a time when norway of horrible team. Isn't it steve. He's bowled but it's a good mean because we are talking about dora. We've discussed this on the show here as well. Who will get him a pair of course in all kind of corners of life. It's an advantage to be region but he'd door. it's not an advantage. Thank you very much gentlemen. Join us on extra time. It's the same lineup. We'll be talking about wanting figures behind yan working out exactly. Think dead bodies they you do own or rent your home share you do and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com attention to la league. Athletico madrid losing by two goals against a van. Say that means of course dropped four points in their last two matches against the same opponents. Ironically as you welcome in allie moreno to the show. I love very much the stone in athletic shoe very much so meanwhile mighty fans are gonna live baby. We love you because what they've done is that they've given by the salona andrea. Marie hope i think my read has shown some signs of leaking oil over the last couple week but we have kind of explained that a way through sane and focusing on luis suarez being effective and efficient and scoring goals in the manner that he is and choosing to ignore the fact that this is not scoring goals is not coming from anywhere else. The only thing that we have focused on over the last few weeks is saying you know what look at athletic marie that personality that character coming back after being a goal down and actually finding ways of winning a game even if it is by deflections. Or what have you well. The other argument is they were a goal down. They had to come back. So you've been seeing a little bit of a break from and eventually this week it caught up to them live on the mid week was difficult was was physical identical. Mighty couldn't quite figure it out. They couldn't quite create chances to score walls. They tie the game one and today you may have thought well. Of course there's going to be a reaction here from this is when they stabbed himself. They've had some difficulties with injuries with that. Says but you think you know what it's all right. That's what i think is at home. There's no chance that they can get a result against again. Well not only said they wanted but it's the second team all live on the beat team of live anti today. The coach buckle up decided. You know what i'm gonna rotate my team. I'm gonna give seven guys seven guys playing the mid week. Then they're not gonna be available including goalkeeper. And guess what they went. There was much better than i thought. I think certainly in the first half second half was a different story at that. They did create some opportunities and keep her in. This case came up with save after. Save up there say restarted. Hit the post all the things that we're going in the direction of now. They're not and this is when you have to have the only being calming presence that he's going to be the coming presidencies one. That's going to tell the same. Hey we're still ahead knowing nothing to see nothing to worry about. We'll see if diego. Simone is made for that and build for that whether this team continues to collapse or whether they find a bounce back athletics go rodney disallowed in your opinion alley. Thank so i think. I think my when when you think of of the opportunities that they create it they were it was bouncy and there and kind of come in this way and now they're in a second play in a fifty fifty chance and whatever it may be but it wasn't really clear opportunities other than deposed is hits but yes. I think there is a shove from luis suarez's defender. He's unable to clear the ball. And korea gets on the rebound but honestly when you look at it but i think there was a half chance here from joel phillies there. Was maybe another couple chances here. Tomas lamar hits a volley. But it wasn't like there were overwhelming. They were better than they want in the second half but not creating many opportunities and again if it's not louis what is who else is going to be not. Many answers came forward today. So that the earlier game putting pressure then around with drake to try and close the gap legua against ryback. Call no one meal casimir ahead of this game. It's very good well. it wasn't. It was so bad that it wasn't value while you're there were plenty l. e. exactly see thomas itself out doing what you're talking about miro difference between right and while it was ugly while at times on watchable you may say you know what by the leader fortunate. They didn't get something out of this game by yellow. Need our second to last in this league and yet and my that will be incurred because they get three points that baid really truly did not deserve anything that drove would have been fine came by how many opportunities if you really have to focus on what this game was all about animal you gotta go back to around the fifty fifty four th minute or for landy on his own n line and instead of clearing the ball to the sidelines or corner cake or whatever anything other than what he did and what he did is he decided to cross the ball or switch the ball somewhere towards the middle of the box. We're the only person that was there for why he hits a full volley to come up with a say so the point is bad and it was ugly. It was difficult. It was tough. It was physical biology kerry. the game. People were talking about with a couple of safe. You survive the three points no cutting bensimon a bunch of injuries and yet you got three points and guess what if you look at the standing up of your memory you start seeing shadows behind you shadows. That were there ten days ago. Let's go the field. He'd taken man come on. I'm gonna take i tell you from this weekend. Amazon champions league. I think the overwhelming conclusion when you watch the league and you watch what we consider to be the top league teams with the the new helena. They're not all that great in fact are not very good. They're not overwhelming teams. They're not dominant team. So it doesn't seem like they're going to run away with the. It felt like it was time for them to really create separation. They haven't they've come back to the pack and now salone outside chance and it's it's very outside chance however they have a chance that again. They did not have a couple of weeks ago. Ali as always thank very much chelsea of on tuesday the so real madrid on wednesday in the champions league. Well then that brings us the end of today show. Thank you very much for everyone who has been on. Stay tune though. Craig in stevie back with us as yan as we discover. Take people behind him why. They're so significant for norway. Edition of extra time has promised craig's with us. Yeah we saw during the show who though he's black and white photos all behind you. This is the quiz. Maybe the most famous norwegians you in uk. You should know about this music. Michigan musicians come on a group. Three buffy book. No no swedish been closed goes on to to to do do do do do do do do do a ha ha ha. He said i said ah hundred goal. Yeah am why stevie while you have pictures of him behind you. Is my wife for one bedroom smoke. I wanna ask the obese questions that one team be some unlucky with injuries. Want specific position. Is it a matter of less options. Meaning for tation. Is it a fitness coaching issue. Just the season the seasons It's been tough for teams with engines. Because of the schedule book you know started. The ball started rolling with fun. Dyke and then the no protected all the gomez motif for being near along with henderson was the true central midfielders. That will the engine room for them by playing off both of them. No enjoyed believe the young guy. The guy from preston is unjust. I mean it's just incredible and you end up playing guys. They're just an experience at this level. So i don't think anybody's to blame because you know maybe be the case of matiba stop to do as you stop to try and rush people bought from from rehab because you've got so limited options and an once thought hopkins generally a snowball effect of just picking up more than injury so it really has been incredible from liverpool perspective. What your christmas tree upright nowhere. Why your life shoulder is a christmas tree that you're not at all it's just. It's not a christmas tree. it's just a. It's just a tree. That my christmas. The christmas tree creative people pay not no. It's not hope ever comes down here part for me right than whites. Yeah keeping it here for stevie. Is that for liverpool to make the top four combating phillips at the back. No do they need to explain it. truth is of the best. But they'll just not good enough. You know phillips as phillips is is an expedience capac has only twenty. He's got a distance learning experience and he just. It just looks like a guy who's going to be the we is forever so if you expect to have two players playing together you your your defense in the premier league You're not gonna win many games and you selling going to win many games if acas forgotten where the biking as well so no. It's not looking good whatsoever. Oh yeah it's looking good for frankfurt of course in the top four. Can you stop dreaming about champions league spots. I think. I think we can start dreaming about it but i think the people responsible eintracht trump would they know what this is all about. They and beginning of the season day they had to sell buses dos to to belgium because to save some money they go four million euro so i mean they're playing above the league table at the moment. It was a great thing to get your bitch back but you see today although that winning is buying but they need the best players available all the time and hopefully the syllabi injury. I think he got eighteen. Goals ahead to hold on. Just of course behind live on bellevue but still very very important for them but this enthusiasm that they have to moment is unbelievable. I mean they can dream. I mean eintracht frankfurt and we're going to too big surprises you own billion is up there as well but you just feel let slowly dolphin gut get enough points to be top four and then there is one only one place available because our beliefs as you buy and will take two hours done done. I have as you're probably aware. I have little interest in what i ain't truck fried and it's four. I'm really intrigued by our young are really the big group to ever come out with norway. Fit is because that's that's a worry from the region music the app but we just got five million people's four million fisherman and the rest is getting oil and gas. And you know we don't have so much time ever scored. A stunning volley is all into daniel. Playing career yeah. Yes i was the second best ball shooter in the world. Just after us. Great confirm or deny that he was the best. Paalea behind mark hughes. Confirm tonight. But i can confirm sparky us could volleyball. Continue that both from craig's volley your vote bullish many spectacular volleys in your career. Couple holidays not beating my volley cope and ninety four ninety five twenty five yards chop call. Knock david james out. Am beaten up by beating store scoring ongoing saying game. Did he doesn't make tough. Stevie volleys of thank them. And all your today steve but down. Yeah but swollen bet used to get no seven and walnut. God's voice chelsea welcome right. When do you normally go up. What well you wake up a week guy. Well i'll tell you. I'll tell you exactly probably we cup of four fifty and then i go and probably a couple of if it'd go and then probably just dependent young won a lion twelve. He's not actually awake at the moment is just doing this any sleep. Let me let me tell you. I'm a nearly riser. Can be downstairs at five or six o'clock or just my body quote however necessarily true. Five shay stevens. We're playing goal family. Except he's alarm officer. Planning failty is allow. Wait for this. Say tim stevia cutler boy join this. Today will not plan to eleven fair. It set my alarm for ten four five to melody. Does lots of you have a beaten by munich yan. Who have been struggling last two matches now. Thomas mona who hands inflict discounts possess system itself. Shula back to google johnson. You sooner everytime stevie cute buying munich this new nemesis. How you perked up. Yeah hey if you by foley he still. He makes mistakes jobs. Do point the say. Whoa for some knock off token alone. Don't live downtown sheila while steve is talking to me sleep. I the question I saw i saw them play dolphins in the first league. They were brilliant in mobile district was it was a dolphin. Didn't do well there. He's on fire. And i think there was a lot of talking of different. Strike is last season. i guess he was described. Recall the most goals fantastic goal score. But i think. I think i'm not talking. I'm don't go that to seal the bandwagon. But i think that's a problem by at the moment to find the right balance in the team on with thomas miller you can kind of put everyone. Where is the glue in. That team and i agree with them saying that. Maybe you should go down. And maybe kimmy say. I don't wanna play right back. I wanna play number six position. I don't know but something's wrong at via on it's a good time philosophy throw to through to get them now champions league but will they go through over two games now. I don't think so last question. John is chance amongst united signed by jaden. Sanitaire earning harlan. During the summer there especially all these good relationship with harland and his father. This is a story about the guy called oregon. Soldier was the ouija who used to be a coach of ailing all along. He puts himself in a private jet went to salzburg and said. Can you please come to manchester united. This is fourteen months ago and ailing hanin said no. I want to go to bed. Hey i'll for you play with me your. His dad fell him to come to manchester united. No he would go to dortmund. Fifteen months later all manchester united fans in the world to say yes. No no. that's my answer. I think he will stay. And i think even will stay on. I know there are things that will happen if they to get into the champions league but i think that this summer dolphin have to sell one player and that will be jaden sancho. I think that ailing hong came to door to to play in front of yellow wall for eighty one thousand people and so on and never experienced that more some few games so i think we would at least stay another season. A yellow black team from dolphins ca. You'll end up just want to start up. Enter miami done. Because david beckham phil neville and phil neville and david beckham a former teammates. Goodness oh scott. Who's a friend informing the region of alexandra highland. Who's a friend so inter miami. You had to hear false. That's ryan shawcross. One right shoulder. No no into miami's just showing ryan shawcross. So that's all the budget gone And say no all right all right columbus but if you do that kind of argument and say you have a look as his dad. Yes alcohol start with nottingham forest. Then he played for leeds united a managed to city. So of course dad was say manchester. United yeah exactly. Thank you very much guys. Stevie pads with you tomorrow big games of course including the milan army.

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 233: USA are the kings of CONCACAF!

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 233: USA are the kings of CONCACAF!

"Want to know the latest than soccer that listen to the golden state media concept's soccer podcast m. l. s. is the world of the premier league. We've got you covered. The latest update hottest matches at news. On the league's top players state media concept soccer podcasts. Listen now thank you for tuning into the gmc soccer podcast brought to you by the gmc. Podcast network. I'm your host steven melendez and i'm going to be bringing you the latest and greatest and soccer news from around the world. Welcome back everyone to your favorite soccer podcast. We have got a lot coming to you today. The u. s. a soccer team is on the rise beating mexico once again two times in one summer this time in the gold cup final and this was with like their be team and they were trying out some youngsters and we're able to still come out on top. We're obviously going to be getting into that in the opening segment of today's show second segment. We're also gonna talk about some of the top transfer deals of the summer. There was a lot going on specifically with. Ps we're gonna get into all those deals and what they mean for the team moving forward Next we're gonna talk about inter miami versus cf montreal. I recently went to that game to cover it and it was an exciting game because it was miami's first win at home. I know almost three months into the season and a win their first game at home. It's a little sad to be honest but it was Some good things man. 'cause i it just it's been real sad over there in In the inter miami. A fan base They still cheer them on. But it's been real tough but we're going to get into that in the third segment give you talk about my experience and how good it felt to finally be there for a win. And then lastly we're going to talk about the top ten central midfielders in the world. And this is such a tough position to really go to. Because it's like. It's not the defensive. Midfielders is not the attacking midfielders to those holding midfielders. That are always in the middle of the page kind of control. The tempo we're gonna talk about those guys At the end of the show so make sure you stay tuned for that but without further ado let's get started with the gold cup the usa's journey to the gold cup final and eventually winning the trophy itself It has been an incredible performance from this. Us men's national team. It's like you come into this tournament. You know that none of the major players are going to be part of the qualifying the world cup qualifying are gonna be there. It's going to be a lot of the youngsters and that's exactly what it was. You look at the you look at the team and it was a daryl decay. You had a sebastian. Let jet you had matthew hoppy Gase kellen cost the boost ceo Who else was killing a call. I think i said kelaniya cost matt turner. I think jackson was in their shaquille more. Reggie in poetry ola. You had all the youngsters in their miles. Robinson sam vines as well. Those two defenders played incredibly in this tournament and they all stepped up. And i'll tell you what you gotta give a lot of credit to the managing of greg bar halter. I mean what he was able to do. Galvanize this squad you know come out before the tournament began and said our goal is to win this tournament. Those were big big statements from you know a a manager. that hasn't really done all that much Obviously they did win. The nation's league final against mexico one of the greatest mexico usa games. I've ever seen and and that was obviously a great way to start the summer but getting another wind here in the gold cup with a team that you know you're pretty much just evaluating to see if you can use them as depth pieces for your world cup qualifying run and man. What a run. This was and i'll tell you what it wasn't even that dominant of a run from the us eighteen. It was more resilience that that is the exact word. I would use to describe this run from the us in this gold cup tournament. It was just like every single game. It didn't feel like they were just absolutely outclassing. Their opponent aside from that six one. Victory over mark nikki. But you know you go through the rest of them i mean. Usa versus canada. The last game of the group stage. They beat them. One nil had only one shot on target. Didn't have more possession. Canada were kind of dominating that game but just couldn't get over the hump because the defense was playing extremely well that back line of miles robinson james sands Sam vines were all playing extremely. Well it you got to give a lot of credit to the back line to really you know just stay poised and effective throughout the entire tournament because that is the main reason why this team was able to win. It was not the it wasn't the the offense or the attack. You know you got a little bit of everything from everyone daryl. Deka had a brace in the in the martini game You got goals from sam vines guy from hoppy you know all these players yossi artis chipped in in all. Everybody chipped in throughout this tournament. And then when you got into the quarterfinals get. The competition did not falter. I mean you had jamaica come in a very physical team. That's that's gonna try to outrun you. And i'll out you know. Just just be more physical than you and this. Usa group this group of usa youngsters was able to adapt to every single opponent. They were able to take on and that was the one thing. I was so impressed. With just the way they they came into these games and they actually looked pretty dominant in jamaica game. Go i guess that back and forth running a fair really does work. Well against this team doesn't work well against usa team and they were really able to grind out these winds and at the end of the game matthew hoppy was able to get that header to you know put it into the back of the net and give them the wind but jamaica certainly had opportunities to win that game but it was just the look like i said it was. There's really is no other word to say except resilience from this usa team to just continue to battle and not give up. Not you know. Put their heads down when things looked like they were getting rough. And i'm just. I'm just extremely impressed. And then when you go into the semi final they had to go up against qatar which likes to use a very Possession based attack. They're not going to be with speed. Beat you with just just kind of grinding these games out and just trying to find the best opportunities and that was really hurting. Us even though the us looked pretty decent in that game you know. They didn't have as many shots. Qatar had eighteen shots to usa six. But only two of those eighteen ron targets so like i've said already the defense just always being in front of the ball not allowing qatar or pretty much any opponent to really get comfortable in their final third Was ultimately the main reason why you say was able to come out on top on most of these games and of course you got kiosk artists coming through with a huge goal at the end of that game. And that's another thing mo a pretty much all of these goals from the. Us came at like if on obviously in the knockout round talking came in the final minutes of the game with just shows you that they just continued to gain confidence and believe in themselves as the game went on that they could do it. And just kept chipping away. Kept chipping away until they finally got their goal and in this qatar semifinal Iasi's artists gordon the eighty six minute to give you know the. Us dramatic win. There and a lot of people were even though usa. Were certainly going to be considered favorites to at least make it to the final qatar. We're having an incredible tournament. I mean top their group Look very comfortable in their in their quarterfinal win against salvador. Even though they did only win three two you know they. They did what they had to do. Scored two goals early on in that game. Got penalty in the fifty fifth minute. We're up three nil on el salvador. So they're able to get a few goals back before the end of the the end of the game but it was too little too late for salvador so qatar. We're actually looking very solid and you would. You would not be surprised if peop- if they would've won this game because of how well they were playing but usa did not back down. They won and went up against mexico and the final who up until this point they had a little. They faltered a little bit in the beginning of a tournament. Getting a dragen stranded out into bego. But you know in the knockout rounds there. We're looking very solid defeating on us. Three nil Going up against canada on the semi final beating them two one and and looking pretty solid doing getting a legal from hector herrera. I mean that was a very you know back and forth game. I mean canada. Were certainly living up to the hype and really putting on a very very solid show against mexico team and you gotta be impressed with canada were able to do. But of course you're known was gonna pick against mexico especially since they were still going with a good amount of their eighteen players. I mean that needs to be set. A lot i i. I was seeing a lot of comments on social media saying you think this is mexico's eighteen and no this. Isn't there number one team. I'm not saying that every single player here plays for the you know the is going to be in the qualifiers. But you look at haystacks corona hector had atta arapahoe hector more all those guys are going to play some some solid minutes for the qualifiers and when you look at the. Us eighteen matt turner. You can maybe especially now after a very solid tournament you could see him as the number three goalkeeper because obviously he's not going to be over horvath and obviously not over Stephens either. So you know. There's obviously no way that matt turner is going to be. You know part that qualifying unless there's obviously which knock on wood. You never wanna see now. I'll tell you what the back line of james sands and miles robinson end specifically maoz robinson who had an incredible tournament. I will tell you certainly has a chance to make it into that starting lineup for the qualifying run after this. You know very solid run in the tournament. I mean you cannot deny the and then of course scoring the goal at the end of this back and forth affair between mexico. You know neither team you know really getting you know past the goalkeeper's they all had chances to score. No doubt about it but it wasn't until miles robinson who you know headed in a beautiful cross from kellyn cost into the back of the net to give them a usaa late once again. Another late win here in the one hundred seventeenth minute to get a winner in that fashion i. It's it just speaks a lot to this team and the culture that gregg berhalter is really setting up for this team for the future. It's really great to see. And i know a lot of people still don't believe that gregg berhalter is the coach of the future for this. Us men's national team. And i just don't understand why. I mean he's do making all the right decisions. He's winning these big games now. Obviously we still gotta wait for the qualifiers you know. And that's going to be the ultimate test playing in these tough conditions. These bad fields. It's going to be a you know a lot to ask from these players. Haven't really had to deal with that yet. Because you know as we know and what a lot of people love to mention. Is that a lot of these. Games are played if not most of these games are played in the us. So it's a lot of home games a lot of good fields you know. And that's not going to be the case most of the time throughout these qualifiers and they're just going to have to deal with it and it's going to. It's going to be interesting to see how these players know handle those conditions. 'cause as we know from what three years ago now they didn't handle it that well at trinidad and tobago. They were complaining about how the field was wet. It was just not a good field and It ultimately cost them that win and a chance to play in the world cup so I don't feel like that's going to be the case here. The culture is certainly being changed the the these players. Whether it's these kids that have been evaluated now are have been you know. They've been battled tested. You know we saw what the can do in the in. The nation's league final and that was huge. We saw a lot of character building moments throughout this summer. And you just wanna see more of it as we go through these qualifiers and it needs to be mentioned that these qualifiers are going to be extremely rough and it not only because of the conditions. Which i've already talked about but it's these three games sets. You're going to have what one week where you're going to have to play three games. That is not easy for these players. And that's why it was important for gregg berhalter to get a lot of these young guys in here to evaluate them and see which ones are ready to battle in these qualifiers. Because you're going to need them these are. These are going to be depth testing. You know three-game sets because you cannot expect yourself to play the same starting lineup through ultra games. I've is just not possible. So you know from from the guys that i looked at you know i always feel like you can rely on jet. A you know a nice veteran presence. You put off the bench I thought a costa had was very solid in that middle of the pitch showed that you know you have a guy now that can play that number six spot whenever tyler adams can't be there because you know that was a big issue. That was a big question and you weren't sure who was going to be able to take that spot when when tyler adams wasn't there carolina cost. I believe fills that role at least off the bench and can be of a spot starter. I've already talked to you. Guys about the about the defense with miles robinson james sands and even sam vines all three of those guys if you are viable pieces to play you know to to be depth pieces for this. Us men's national team. You know moving into the qualifiers. I honestly feel that now in attack it gets a little bit tougher. Like i feel like iasi's artis showed enough was very diligent with his runs. And and you know had a decent presence in the box arreola. I didn't see enough from him. You know he got into some some solid spaces almo scored in the final. If it wasn't for a spectacular save from that mexican goalkeeper as he was diving forward. Matthew hoppy i liked what he would. You know what he showed. But i still think he needs time to develop. Maybe another season in the bundesliga Which i think he's going to do extremely well in. I'm very very happy. That he that he's playing in the bundesliga but he's he's going to do very well daryl decay. He needs a spot in this team even though he didn't get the start here in the in the us men's In the you know the final for the gold cup and he didn't even get subbed on. It was left for iasi's artists. They want i guess. Greg brought her gregg. Berhalter wanted someone with a little more experience in that number nine spot but i feel like the presence that darryl decay brings to that number nine spot and an inside the box. Something that not a single striker in the us. Men's national team pool can deliver. I honestly feel that way. And and i expect to be a part of the qualifying run in some fashion. I'd be surprised if he isn't but You just look at this whole team and you just have to be impressed. And i did talk very shortly about matt. Turner but you need to. It needs to be said. He had a very good tournament. He there were moments throughout the group stage where he didn't really have to do much. So you were wondering when you know when the moment comes kenny. Step up and the moment came in multiple situations in the final. I mean throughout the knockout rounds. He had to make some some diving saves and he did just that and i'm extremely extremely impressed. With the way he was able to step up you know be become a calming presence for that back line but he was certainly helped by the way miles robinson and james sandwiches able to be you know a very solid presence and an informed a very good partnership in that back line Reggie cannon was also there and he had some good moments i am. He didn't have the best tournament. But i'll be honest. He he still in in line to be a depth piece in that. Full back position. I'll be honest. I do think. I do still believe yet lindy andrea yet lynn What is it Who was his name Robinson and tony robinson and of course her genial desktops are going to be probably like the main pieces throughout that qualifying run but then reggie cannon. We'll be right there at number four a filling in for for whenever they need a rest. so I do believe in that. I also thought the additions of eric williamson into the and george bello as well into this. Final was was a bit shocking. They had the barely played throughout this. They had barely played throughout this tournament. Soul to get a start in the final. I thought was a bit of a question. Mark but in the end you saw that i mean williamson was was willing to get forward and and create a lot of pressure on that Mexican back language honestly. A lot of guys who would have been in. That position wouldn't have done. It's just a fact of the matter. You know you had a before. Who was in that. Who's in that spot before buso boost you'll have have a decent tournament but just didn't give you what you really needed in that midfield like he. He didn't provide a a lot of anything to be honest. I mean when it came to passing controlling the temple. He did that but when you want him to get forward he didn't really create much in that in those opportunities but of course you weren't going to get rid of Calinikos and sebastian let jet. They had a very solid partnership in the midfield. And and you could tell that they really trusted each other and had a very good Chemistry when it came to when one person had to go in defence the other took his spot and vice versa. It was it was just a very solid formation that they had there but in the end you west same being able to defeat mexico in this gold cup I it's a huge statement. I it really is when you consider how mexico has had you know the the. What is it the advantage in. Most you know for a while now and and a lot of people have been saying that. This is mexico's rivalry all the way. Usa are a notch below them. But i mean after what you've seen from this summer whether it was the nation's league final and now the gold cup final. You cannot deny that the usa are certainly making a case to be considered the best team in concacaf it. It's just an absolute fact being able to come into this tournament with your you know with a bunch of youngsters guys. That had not been battled tested. You know. didn't know what would it really felt like to play Competitive international football. They come in here and they play as a team and they grow together and gregg berhalter puts them in the right spot tote to win another trophy this summer. It's just a great thing to see. And it's only positive stuff for the men's national team moving forward especially with the the world cup coming up in a year. You just got to be impressed with what you've been able to see from them and you you wonder you know. Can this team combined with some of those other first teamers and really create something special and i truly believe they can and when you consider the age of these guys you know i want to say the average age of most of the guys in the pool is like twenty three maybe twenty four. You know because you got some veterans in their mixed in while for mexico. It's it's the opposite. They're they're more in like the high twenties. I wanna say it's maybe twenty eight. You know maybe maybe twenty seven but you know that that just means to me that with the usa already playing this well and then being that young it's just a matter of time before usa ultimately overtakes mexico permanently in the concacaf region. I it's just. It's just a matter of time to me. It just feels like it's inevitable at this point so that's going to wrap it up for this segment. Make sure you guys stick around. Because when i come back i'm gonna talk about some of the top transfer deals of the summer and what it means for those clubs moving forward right after this. Are you looking to get your college football. Beck's looking to get the latest news on your favorite schools team the diaz. Mc college football podcast is your ticket to all things college football to us as we talk college football from the national championship the college rivalries the bowl game to the heisman trophy so which converts is the best. We've got you covered for the big ten as these the big twelve the pac twelve. Acc and everything in between download the gs in c- college football podcast on i tunes stitcher soundcloud google play or anywhere. You find god gas just tied gs nc in the search bar. Welcome back to the gmc soccer podcast. If you missed the last segment we talked about the us. Mnt's journey through the gold cup as they have defeated mexico once again to get their second trophy this summer. I mean a heck of a performance from them and if you want hear my thoughts on it please go ahead and check that out. But now we're gonna be talking about the top transfer deals of the summer so far. I mean we got some good ones. Some big names moving Some top clubs picking up some vital pieces to their you know title-winning or champions league spot efforts whatever the case may be We're gonna get into all of it and why not start with arsenal who always seemed to try to make a big splash though most often than not especially recently though splashes have not been all that well a lot of these top you know. Signings have struggled when they've made it In arsenal colours. But i feel like this might be a different one especially after analyzing his beam a bit and just seeing the way he plays he looks like a smart player and poised player and especially in a position. That arsenal certainly need some help. And that's ben white of brighton. Now of course of arsenal moving for fifty million euros. And i honestly feel that. That is a lot of money for a guy. That is still not proven. You know. he hasn't really played. Any big matches is only played for you know. Lower sides like he's been in the championship. Bid obviously was in the premier league last year for brighton. And let me tell you what i was looking at the way he plays. It's exactly the type of player that arsenal need someone who is under control with the broadest feed. And i'll tell you what ben white certainly knows how to control the ball with his feet. He is just like he's someone that you know. A guy like sokha or chaaka. You know it's so funny. Other those names rhyme of picked Would would go to in you. Know when they're in a tight spot and you need to relieve the pressure off the attack. They they can go to ben white and he makes those smart decisions. He doesn't to do too much though. I do like how he has. The skill sets to be a versatile defender. He can play in the center back position or he can play at that rightback spot which though obviously you're gonna see ben white in that center back position Kind of manning the back line and being an anchor for them indefens- which he certainly can be. He has the pace. And the i q to stick with pretty much anybody There were a couple games last season that i saw him. Keep up with guys. Like phil folded marcus. Rochford and guys. Those are quick players and he had absolutely no problem being able to stick with them and making the necessary tackled to You know get them out of possession. And i can see that being the case for arsenal where he can fill in perfectly into that centreback position. Kind like how harry. Maguire did for manchester united. He was brought on for a big fees well and there was a lot of skepticism of whether he can take that role as the anchor for manchester united. Obviously at this point and pretty much of all time yet. United only always been a bigger club than arsenal. But i believe like ben ben white is the type of player that arsenal need to really get over the hump ad that leader you know. He doesn't really seem like a very outspoken guy. Like when i when. I saw his games. It doesn't really feel like he's the kind of guy that will just kind of galvanize a team but he'll lead by example by the way he plays the game and that's going to be a very important part of what arsenal do next season if they want to try to get into a champions league spot even europa league spot. I mean to be honest. And i'm excited about it. I'm excited and for brighton. To be able to cash in on benway get fifty million euros for him. I is is definitely good business But the twenty three year old has a lot of expectations coming in to arsenal and is going to have a lot of pressure on them. And like i said all these big signings of arsenal have had a habit of struggling under the bright lights. So we'll see how. How ben white reacts to it another big signing you had yell may mullen moving from. Psv to borussia dortmund. I feel like this was a perfect move for dorfman and for them to get them for thirty million euros. That's a very solid deal Considering that they just finished selling john sancho for over eighty million euros It's a good move especially when you got to replace one of your best attacking players on the squad at twenty two years old. Onion mullins still has a lot of room to grow and his game fits perfectly alongside of a holland. Who doesn't really doesn't really look like he's going to be making that big move away this summer. Maybe in the winter transfer Maybe next summer. But i don't feel like there hasn't really been that much. Traction in rumors of him actually making that move away from borussia dortmund but With with sancho out daniel mullen can fit in perfectly into that attack You're going to see him. Maybe even gio raina taking in that role but molin is older at twenty two years old. He's got a lot more experience playing in nbc's because he he played in in in the dutch league and that is certainly one of the more competitive leagues Outside of the top five. And i feel like donyo mullen with his pace. His dribbling and is Is eye for goal really was going to be something. That dorfman is going to benefit from in this upcoming season and seasons moving forward so he should definitely do well in the bundesliga and i look forward to seeing his his His progress throughout the season Number one number three bully like the third signing talk about is brian guilt or brian. He'll i believe is the way you say. His name he made a move to tottenham from severe. You know he was at severe for a few years now. I believe it was a twenty nineteen was when he made his debut but he hasn't really played all that much force b. I was mainly on loan at league. Honest and ivar. And i mean did some incredible things there. I mean you look at his dribbling as pace his ability with the is feet. It's absolutely magical stuff that he can do. And making the big move to tottenham at this age. I'm not sure is the right one They already have a lot of great attacking players. A lot of a lot of guys that i can see Being used ahead of him But i feel like you know and also when you think about moving to a new country. A new league. A a big adjustment period for brian but for tottenham to get him for twenty five million a guy who has a lot of potential to be a big time player in this sport. I feel. it's you know it's a good move for them. I guess keeping it on the future. But i i would be surprised if he stays there. Throughout the season. I would be more inclined to see a loan. Move out of tottenham to another premier league squad So that he can get that experience playing in you know in the english league and really continue to grow on his game but really there. Isn't that much risk from tottenham here as you know spending twenty five million euros for for a player of his caliber Should end up coming in handy. Especially with the fact that they had to move eric lamelo at the same time and it was pretty much like a swap deal with the twenty five million added to it so severe get a pretty solid player while also cashing in on their young player that they weren't really using all that much so I like the move for both clubs but not really for for the player itself. I feel like he maybe could move somewhere little smaller for now and then and then eventually made that big move when he was a little older. But we'll see how it works. This was actually the support and not really surprising. But i guess just the way it all panned out a pierluigi golini from atlanta. Making the loan. Move to tottenham too by and i don't understand why the atlanta manager gianpiero gas spitting decided to drop him in february and then at bringing while one musso from udine easy to take place. I feel like From what i remember seeing and from from the the the research i did on golini. He was one of the main reasons. Why the lanta have made this rise in city and and when i saw his his highlights and the way he was planning. He's got great instincts. The ability make tough saves and even his passing is very solid for goalkeeper. So i i just don't understand why he would why the atlanta boss would wanna move him away and in the end for not that much money. I understand his His deal was going to be ending soon but to send them on loan with an option to buy for fifteen million. It's really doesn't feel like a smart deal for santa to give up. You know a key. Part of their success over the last few years And then also when you think about a leany he could have gone to a lot of other places. I'm sure with him at twenty six years old. And the i guess the height of his ability You know as a goalkeeper. At least he could probably made a move to another to a bit of a smaller club. That could use a goalkeeper. But you move to tottenham where you're going to be behind one of the best goalkeepers in the world in cuba law reese and i don't know i just don't feel like that. That's us unless he feels like he has a good chance he was giving or he was given some kind of you know hint that he'd have a chance to take the number one spot. I just don't feel like this was the smart move for him at this moment and But we'll see i mean for for tottenham it. It's not a bad move. I mean you're paying a very small fee for a player who has proven in a big league that he can you know play with the best of them and i feel like you know having that competition with ula. Reese can't hurt either so they they landed a quality player But if he doesn't play it might not and all that wealth so we'll see how that turns out We'll have to keep an eye on that. How pierluigi go leany ends up in tottenham and if he actually gets playing time Let's see now. Let's talk about that. Big big move. That happened between bruce. Dorfman and manchester united with on sancho making his long awaited. Move to the english giants I mean he has. He wasn't in the english league once before when he was with man city in Bore dortmund were able to buy him for just eight point seven million euros so i mean the return is absolutely incredible even though dorman warren able to get their initial asking price of one hundred twenty million euros. They had to change their expectations with the financial issues and has been causing all these clubs with colbert and they needed to lower their expectations. So but still getting. Eighty five million euros for player of java central's caliber. It's it's incredible when to turn them from what you had originally in into now what people would consider one of the best young wingers in the entire world. You did a very good job and competed for a few years with him. Got some great. You know highlights with him. Some great you know he some very amazing years from traveling. Central air borussia dortmund. But now he moves on to manchester united. Makes that big big move. And i'll tell you united already have some incredible talent and that attacking unit when you talk about marcus. Rash marchisio obviously got bruno fernandez. They're making greenwood. You got some very very good talent. However john sancho is a different animal. He's a guy that can come in and just absolutely change the tide of your club and with this signing. There's no doubt my mind that manchester united is going to be right up there with whether it's liverpool obviously man city is going to be there in battling for the title because he just adds a different element to that attack that they just didn't have before Whether you're talking about the pace the you know the combination. I should say of pace agility passing technical skills and goal scoring abilities. Marcus rash words close. But he is not at that job on sancho level. When you're gonna see that in this upcoming premier league season it's going to be exciting to see how old garso's soul shar is able to put these players together and work well together. You know you're gonna have bruno fernandez in the in the middle of the pitch. John central. I'm assuming would be on the right whoever's on the top meet. what whether the i. i'm not. I don't remember if they reassigned cavani but if he's up there in the nine spot mark seattle And then of course you have marcus rush for on the left. It's gonna look like mason. Greenwood would be the odd man out. He's still very young. So there's still a lot of years where he can play as a super saab. We'll see if he's even willing to do that I think that'll be the bigger issue here with manchester united over anything else. So great move from menu Next have arsenal and other pickup for them and other young pickup a twenty one year old midfielder albertz zombie lokongo lokonga I mean in my opinion. I feel like this is a decent move. I mean you get another young talent a guy who can Do a little bit of everything in that midfield aside from the scoring department. I feel like there's very little to be desired from lokonga. He can ease very physical. Presence can set the temple in the midfield is a very good passer. Dribbler can be an anchor on that defensive. End as you know. And there's a reason why there was a lot of teams That wanted la- congas signing and for arsenal to be able to pick them up though was for twenty million. I really not a terrible price. You could have gotten a lot. It could have been a lot worse but uh still. They're going to be able to put him in that midfield. It's going to help it out a whole lot. And though he is still young and it doesn't have a lot of experience in big league liked the premier league. He certainly has a bright future ahead of him and is going to do wonders for arsenal's future. I wanna talk about libya. Giroux alleviation rule making that move from chelsea to acme lawn for only one million. He deserves the move away. I mean he wasn't getting a lot of playing time with chelsea Even though he was certainly a big part of that bench unit. I mean whatever he came in it always felt like he had You know his his footprints on the on the game. Whether it was with a goal or just his work rate he was always doing something for chelsea and now coming in taste milan on i. It's it's interesting. I mean because he's also getting up there in age he's thirty five. I believe and thirty four and he you know comes into a club that in my opinion mina needed a little bit more youth in that position since they already have thirty nine year. Old slapped on uber. Rich that's going to be really fun to watch all those guys work together or how one comes off. I mean i just don't see. I could easily see a to striker lineup with those two out. There it's just you don't lose a lot of pace though the striking the billy is certainly not in question with either of those two. I do think it's a solid signing may seem lawn elbow chelsea's business. They're like you know resigning into a new contract last season but now letting them go for a small fee just kind of didn't make any sense might as well just let him go However i do know they have another million atoms. So i guess a little incentive but with team o. Verner coming into chelsea there was really no path for giroud to really get regular playing time in chelsea so now moves tasting alon. Who are looking to kind of get a little bit of a revenge for next season as inter milan were able to win The league and on top of that took one of their best players in hawk. Haakon haag. I need that needs to be talked about. Let me let me get to that Signing or is it. Here it is. How can how can car inaugural i mean to move from acing lawn till the rivals inter. Milan is is a big one. I mean he has been a big part of acme lawns You know rise over the last couple seasons. And i it's a it's a tough move to take when when one of your best players moved to your rival and a team that just finished winning the league. It's it's hard to really swallow there but I mean inter-milan just making good business and picking up a very very solid player And he's just going to help them out in in a lot of ways and he might end the feeling that christian erickson spot and and being a regular number ten. And i'll tell you what he's got some big targets amount with thoreau martinez and lukaku being up there at the top. It's it's going to be very fun to watch honestly to me. One of the biggest signings though this summer was the free transfer of genre luigi donahue duma to ps street and yes. I am a huge fan. But man did they do some great business this summer and it isn't just done a rumor. They got him for free. They got sergio ramos for free. And wasn't it also a yet. Georgina wind now them for free as well. Those three key pieces to a club brought in for free. I mean it just. It doesn't really get much better than that. In my opinion the best signing has to be done room. I mean to get one of the best young goalkeepers if not the best young goalkeeper in the world on your team for free and you and you sign them to a five year deal so you don't even have to have them as your you're number one. Stop a right now especially since you got keilor navas. I know there's a lot of talk about how that's gonna work out. But i feel like you don't really have to worry about that if you need to loan them out which has been a rumor of late. You can do that. Loan them out. Somewhere to premier li to england up to the back to city. I'm assuming Would you know where he feel. More comfortable Whatever you know while you can have keilor novice there for another year. Maybe two i would say just one more year let you know get a little bit more mature with his with his game. Then bring him on and you got your keeper for the future. I mean he can be a number one. Stop for the next ten plus years and it's going to be exciting to see what he does for. Psg in and helped lead them to their first champions league trophy. It's going to be very fun to watch and for sergio ramos. I mean you get one of the most winningest centrebacks in the history of football onto your team for free i understan- raw madrid. Didn't want to you know. give them that. That second year on his contract and a lot of it has to do with his injury history as of late. But what you have seen from him over. The years is a leader an anchor in defense and a winner and for that is what you need and bringing them in is just huge and then for why now them i mean you get a guy who was a key piece for liverpool's rise to the top over the last few years and to be able to get up for a free loan and take him under barcelona's knows is just cherry on top and i mean they're all three of them you know if they do play. This season are going to be vital pieces to pse's run to the top and back to another league title after losing it to last season and of course the ultimate price for them the champions league trophy. So that's going to wrap it up for this segment. Make sure you guys stick around. Because when i come back i'm gonna talk about my experience at the most recent inter miami versus montreal game right after this tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. She there's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. 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It was atrocious to watch this inter miami team night after night. Just get absolutely destroyed by any team that came its way whether it was chicago. Dc united orlando city. But i mean that was actually a decent game. They lost two one. That was honestly the one game i was. I was looking at where i was like. Okay at least they fought hard and then montreal and then the five nothing just embarrassment against new england revolution which i mean you gotta give new england above credit. Those guys are animals this season. They're top of the eastern conference for a reason and they showed it to us at home. It was it was. It was just really tough to watch. I mean i was there. I was there every game. I'm a season ticket holder. So i'm there at every single game watching this inter miami team just struggle to get anything going in the final third that has been easily the biggest issue. Forget the defense which was a problem last year but it you know the offense was just as big of an issue but you look at those the way that we have been going this season. We've allowed twenty four goals and have only scored twelve. We've scored twelve goals. That is by far the worst of any team in the entire vote. No actually austin is right there with us but their defense has been. They've only allowed sixteen goals their goal. Differentials is only a minus six while for us arbel differential using minus twelve. Which is right. I think tied for the worst yet tied for the worst in the entire league. It's just been a very very tough season. We've only won three games. This was actually our first win at home. This most recent game against montreal where we defeated them two to one. And i mean the first half was looking tw off even though you know inter miami. They went out with the same lineup that they had against philadelphia recently when they had that one one draw finally ending that losing streak at the only difference that they made was that they moved up. Nicholas vigo to the center back position. Along sides of gonzales. Speeders put kelvin. Leedom in the in the right back position Shawcross was the odd man out there. Everyone else was exactly the same. He had grew gregory in the midfield with victor yola. Who by the way that that midfield dual has been absolutely incredible so far that were like when they play together. I mean i know gregory didn't didn't play for It was like a a month hiatus. I'm not. I don't remember if it was injury or not. But he just was not playing in that midfield. It was a lot of. Y'all jay chapman tweety but then tweety was just giving us nothing. He was so lazy at times when he was starting and he hasn't started the last two games for a reason because he just wasn't giving us what we paid him for. So having gregory who is now the new captain for the rest of the season and victory. Aw in that. Midfield along with federico Going who plays that Rodolfo pizarro spot. He gives you a lot of effort. You know a lot of flare he. He's great with those combination passes. Which i'll be honest Rodolfo pizarro has given us little to nothing pretty much throughout his entire tenure. Here i remember. He scored a goal in one of the first games of the inaugural season and people were hyped up about him and you know that he could be our star man but he has done pretty much nothing for us throughout this entire time. He's been with our club. And you know i honestly. I liked the top three. That we have gonzalo dwayne. Yes he is slow and he is out of shape at least what it looks when you watch them play but yo he is easily our best attacking player because he when he gets that foot on the ball more often than not. He's gonna be accurate with it and very sharp with it so you know you gotta have him out there. And then you got louis morgan and robbie robinson on the wings. We've been playing sahlin. I would say robinson maybe been a little bit more effective than lewis morgan. But you gotta keep morgan out there. After the way he played free last season. You gotta expect that to turn eventually in in this game. The one thing you wanted to see if you were an inter miami fan. And i obviously am is the effort. You wanna see hustle. You wanna see a team that wants to go out there and and fight for that badge you know you want them to feel these losses and from what i've heard from film level in the post game press conferences over these past few weeks. They are certainly feeling it especially when they got destroyed. Five nil to new england. They were embarrassed and he said that at times they're embarrassed to go up to the la familia. Which is you know our our mega fans there on the size. That are always yelling throughout the game. Which i absolutely love. It brings life into the stadium when you know you're looking at the field and you're seeing pretty much nothing. You're you know i. It's it's really tough to watch at times but certainly in this first half and and really throughout this entire game you felt like this team had a new sense of urgency. And we're certainly playing a bit better even though montreal with their you know passing The combinations they were doing very well at at you know fighting that pressure that inter miami. We're trying to put on them and we're getting by them. At times we're creating numbers down the field I still feel like inter. Miami played a pretty solid first-half despite being down one nil that that goal that montreal we're able to pick up was honestly did have something to do with the pressure that inter miami were were putting on them it allowed you know montreal to kind of get through it and once they did they had a few numbers and they were able to find their Defender i honestly. I'm not even gonna try to say his name. It's very tough to save. But he was he was able to find some space out on that wing and he delivered a very solid cross to toy and mason toy and he was It looked like he was going to have an easy shot on goal. But nick mars men who has been very solid in between the sticks over the first few games that he's played with the club made a very solid effort to you. Know bad it out of there or punched out of there but unfortunately he did get kicked by toy. it was obviously unintentionally. Wasn't trying to injure mars men but it didn't allow mars minta to make that second effort to stop the rebounded shot which was taken by jockeying torres and he was able to score that opening. Goal the game in the twenty. Th minute for montreal It was an unfortunate event as it wasn't against the run of play. But i do have to say that The way that that interview that inter miami were playing into that point. I was very impressed with just in terms of their effort. Their ability to know to cause pressure on montreal. Even with them you know combining very well to to get around it I just thought the effort was certainly there that the midfield was playing well. like i've said again Yohan gregory have formed a very strong partnership. There they trust each other like when one is going to disrupt the attack. The other is there to kind of back them up and take his place and really the formation that they'd been playing has been very solid in you know you just You look at the wayne at that. First half was really being played and You're surprised they inter miami dinning get an extra didn't get an actual goal. Even though there was one shot by federico wayne shortly before that that goal was scored by montreal. That i was really surprised with. I mean he was it. Felt like he was about thirty yards out and the goalkeeper of montreal wasn't aim Bumpy meese but he was not expecting a shot on goal whatsoever. That's why he was kind of leaning more on the left side. Getting ready for a for a shot across being brought in from that far out but man federico he going he'd had the The the the what is it. The i mean. I don't wanna say about word. But he had the you know that he had that to be able to take a shot from that far out and actually had it on target. You gotta give them a lot of credit it had to be saved by bounty missy not it was going to be one of the goals of the season In the mls. I mean it's no lie. Was that nice. I was everyone in the stadium was just you know rock and after that they knew that this was going to be a different type of game a game or even though you're you know you're you're not getting the ball as much the possession with certainly in montreal favor and of course like i said they scored shortly after it did not make this inter miami team you know. Put their head down as you've seen over the past few months that whenever they go down it always felt like they you know just kinda lose that effort. They lose that too nasty and and just allow a team to just run over them. This was not that same team when they got scored on They kept their heads up. They continued to play hard and did not allow montreal to get any other shots on target. And we're just you know on top of it all and so they go into the half a down one nil You're hoping for a bit better of a of a second half. You know you wanna see a little bit more going on in that final third which has been a consistent issue for this team Throughout i want to say and not just this season but throughout its clubs history. You know you bring in the youngsters like pellegrini. I'd always not with the team anymore. But like pellegrini What's this other kid's name a carranza. You'd get robbie robinson in the draft and you're thinking oh it's going to be a young spry attack that's gonna really you know. Lighten things up and then you bring in a he g- wayne who is old slow and you know he's got a great leg. I mean his ability to shoot and shoot accurately is certainly there still but it doesn't mesh well with who you already have and obviously you also bring lewis morgan And it's just it hasn't really worked out all that well but you know you're still hoping that they could figure something out. They gotta do it. You know this is the team that you have is the team. We gotta root for so figuring out and right at the start of that second half. They were different. It was. It was as clear as day. This team was a different animal. They were the even though they did have the ball. I you know the They almost lost the ball early on in that second half and i was like okay. This is a little shaky but come on. Try to get Trying to get organized here and they did and they were able to get up the field and were able to Make get an opportunity going victory. Oh always able to pass it into a he'd winding who was just onside inside the box He wasn't able to hold onto his momentum and balance but he was able to put just enough hustle to keep that ball alive and make something happen and he was able to hold onto a just long enough to keep a to get federico. He growing his brother to to get a touch on the ball and rudy camacho fouled him and it drew a penalty an important penalty at that that give that game inter miami and their fans. Some hope that this game was not going to be like others and you. You're not going to be surprised by who was gonna step up and take this shot. It was obviously going to be gonzalo. Guanosine our number nine our dp. A guy that you know has has not had the best season so far. I mean honestly. If you're talking over austin. I mean he has had the most impact towards the offense. I mean Coming into this game. He had five goals and two assists. He was obviously doing something. But it's just too far in between you know. The inconsistencies is his effort level. Sometimes even though i will be honest he does give effort on that defensive end he runs back and he gets you know disrupts the attack Coming in the buildup from the defensive midfield. He does the does do that a lot of times so i have to give him. Credit credit is due but regardless all. That doesn't matter anymore. He's stepping up to the plate here to take a big time penalty and he gives the goalkeeper a little bit of time to decide where he wants to go for the save and he goes the opposite. Wayne gives inter miami huge one one Equalizer to to you know to tie it up and and finally you know give this. Intra miami fan base something to cheer about. I mean it has been a longtime coming in something that you know. It's been a bit depressing. You know when you see these fans and and this superfan section you know cheering and and giving their all while you know the the product on the field has been you know not deserving of that and you've heard from i've heard from phil neville in the press conferences that you know there's times when the players are embarrassed to go up to these fans because they've given everything and on the field they're not giving as much as they expect to give and i remember from the last game After get in that one. One draw on a philadelphia on the philadelphia union. He set the big. We set the bar. That's what he said. This is the bar that is set. Now this is what you have to start giving every single time you walk out on that pitch and that is what this team gave to us in this game and you know i was a little worried because there has always been times when even you know i said when when the other team scores we put our head down but when we score we feel like on top of the world where the best team would finally figured it out but and that's kind of what was happening after the first goal was scored montreal had a lot of solid opportunities to take the lead back. They but it's just that they didn't bring the shooting boots into the second half they had. There was one chance. A shocking tortoise set up a mason toy perfectly in the box. I mean i would. I would give jockeying tortoise easily. The man of the match for montreal because he was just setting these guys up left and right in toy had a golden opportunity to score getting by mars men making him miss and having practically an open goal to shoot at and he just hits it white and there were two more opportunities that That these teams had both. I believe all three were set up by torres and all shots were were hit wide. So montreal certainly had their opportunities but This was a chance for miami despite allowing these opportunities to score for montreal to score to get back into this game regain the momentum and it happened when phil neville may probably the best decision that he could have made. I've told you that. He sat blazed tweedy between had not been playing over the past two games he was brought on in. I believe it was the sixty fifth minute and he instantly change the tide of this game. I know what was one one at this point but you felt much for our regaining momentum and eventually they were gonna score a goal blaze mcsweeney came into the game and just changed it. I mean his his presence. In that midfield with greg. Because he came in for federico he joined and his presence in that midfield along with yola and gregory absolutely changed the momentum of the game it did not allow montreal to just get whatever they wanted throughout the the entire field because it just felt like whenever they want they can get up the field against miami but with with With blazing tweeting there. It changed his effort was certainly there and he was giving his all. You could tell that the that his benching over the past two games has certainly affected him and he understands that he needs to give his one hundred percent effort in order to be able to stay out on that field and he did just that and it allowed miami to put even more pressure on montreal up the field and that's when the second goal frontier miami occurred rudy camacho once again making the mistake of holding onto the ball just a bit too long when that pressure was right on him and it got the ball loose i believe it was gregory and robinson that put the pressure on camacho. The ball came loose gonzalo. He going poundstone and from just outside. The box took a shot right through. Ponti must gloves. He did get a bit on it but it wasn't enough as the ball. Ben bounced behind pontius to score the second goal of the game getting wine to pick up a brace and give inter miami their first win in about two and a half months two and a half much. Just think about that with me row. Quick two and a half months to get a win their first win at home for the entire season absolutely incredible scenes there at the dr pink stadium in fort. Lauderdale i was i was i was ecstatic to see that going and actually when when it went in. I was working at the stadium. So i didn't see the goldwyn. Because at first i thought it was just a save and the ball was going to go out for a corner so i was going down to put in my phone the stats but then everybody was going ballistic as i was looking at my phone so i looked up like what just happened and the goal was scored always like no way. I can't i couldn't believe it. I was happy as heck and it just felt great to see this team. Battled back from down one nil to score two goals and get the three points. It shows you a team that finally realizes that heart and tenacity that they need to have in order to win consistently in the mls. And why don't think this is a a turned corner at all. Because i mean we do have to take on orlando's sitting next second best team in the eastern conference rivals to inter miami I don't not sure how that game's going to go. But it certainly is a baby. Step forward as phil neville says to to where we actually want to be and that's to being a consistently good. Mls team so you know it feels great. But that's all. I got for you guys in this segment makes you stick around. Because i'm i come back. I'm going to be talking about the top ten central midfielders in the world from this past season right after this. This is your ultimate stop for everything. Sports the golden state media concepts or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. The nba to mma. All in here. The golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen welcome back to the gmc soccer podcast. If you missed the last segment. I talked to you guys about my experience at the inter miami montreal match that just recently happened where inter miami finally catalin in seven matches and their first game One at home in the entire season really exciting stuff and so if you go check that out please go ahead and do so however now. We're going to talk about the top ten central midfielders in the world from this past season. And i'll tell you what it is a very interesting list. This was to in my opinion. This is one of the harder lists to come up with. Because how do you make the differentiate. How do you differentiate center attacking midfielders to senator defensive midfielders to cetera midfielders. I it's tough because there are clear central attacking midfielders. Like you know you got your kevin durant. You're brutal fernandez and incentives. You got your of murals. You got your joshua key. Meeks and nicolo conti obviously but at central midfield. I mean you got guys here that i mean i could maybe consider defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder but i did research went see where they played specifically on the field and i made sure that each of these guys were all played in that central midfield role for the majority of last season. So without further. Ado let's get started with number ten. Maybe surprise to some of you on this list but not to me because this guy was vital to a title winning season. And that's benjamin andre from lil in in the french league. I mean this guy was a vital piece to that midfield absolutely setting up the tempo The defense was absolutely key. He can easily play a central defensive midfield role but he's also got the skills with the ball to play up the field as well which is why he was putting mainly in that holding midfielder position and it a little bit of everything for little. I mean you're talking. The dribbles completed point eighty eight per ninety minutes. I was in the fifty eight percentile. Progressive passes five almost five point five per ninety minutes at the eighty first percentile. He's got an eighty five percent pass completion a very solid for his position. And then when you talk defense. I mean he was an anchor. Three point. fifty five tackles per ninety minutes. that's in the ninety. Four th percentile. One point eight. Four interceptions eighty six percentile. Two point one blocks eighty percent town even in the air. He was absolutely incredible just over three two of three areas one per game. That's in the ninety six percentile and This guy was just an absolute workhorse. Never quit was always hustling and just made the right decisions. He was a vital piece to to what they were doing throughout the entire season. And if it wasn't for him they probably wouldn't have won the lead to be honest. I know bill. Yacky barack yilmaz's was very important to what they were doing and was one of their best attacking players. But if it wasn't for the calmness and poise that benjamin andre played in that midfield You'll probably wouldn't have had the balls much as he did. So benjamin andre comes in at number ten and an underrated number ten at that and number nine. We have paul papa. And i know pod gets a lot of slack for the way he plays at times. You know doesn't put a lot of effort. You know all the time but he still an incredibly talented midfielder. I mean he can do pretty much whatever you want in the attack. But he's also a pretty decent defender puts puts put in a lot of the work towards the end of last season But i mean he's no longer in my opinion among that that top five midfield in conversation like he was when he first entered man united. He deceived just doesn't have that you know that that light about him i just don't feel it anymore But you look at his what. He didn't drought the season. At europa league champions league and premier league he had five goals and six assists in his. What thirty seven appearances solid numbers. But you look at his more advanced numbers like what what. Statistic wise wasn't a great passer was about eighty three point two percent pass completion but he did pass about sixty three point. Five times per ninety minutes eightieth percentile. His dribbling once a month was amongst the best among midfielders Just under two point. One dribbles per ninety minutes in the ninety seven th percentile He had the most touches in the attacking penalty area that which was in the ninety six percentile and obviously we know he is a physical presence so he was one of the best in terms of aerial duels. One two point four nine eros one per ninety minutes. I was in the ninety second percentile and he had a lot of clearances. Well was an eightieth percentile among clearances with to a ninety minutes and he was amongst the best among in midfielders in all the attacking Statistics assist expected. Assist shot creating action. Stock totals non penalty goals. You name it. He was in the top percentiles in all of those statistics and paul parker and honestly he was one of the best french players throughout the euros despite them kinda crashing out there a lot of that. None of that really had to do. With what paul did. He was incredible throughout that tournament and just continues to improve on his value after a kind of a inconsistent season with manchester united last year. And now there's talks about him making a move to ps g. Which obviously. I would absolutely love him in the middle of the field with Y album variety. It would be something to watch and talking about gherardi. He comes in at number eight. And i'll tell you what i'm i'm just. I absolutely love his game. I mean his ability to control the midfield with his You know control the ball his passing ability his vision and then of course you know he. He has the defensive abilities to be an anchor as well. I mean i always seen them as a defensive midfielder. But i understand like as time has gone on. He's much better utilize as a holding midfielder. Someone that can go box to box Be used as the playmaker. The deep lying playmaker but also be a defender that kind of that always disrupts counterattack from the opposing teams. I mean you look at three point. Zero seven tackles per ninety minutes. That's in the eighty seven th percentile and then all of his technical skill stats are in the you know as high as they can possibly be. I mean he averaged almost a hundred point. Four pass attempts per ninety minutes. It's easily the best amongst any midfielder. A ninety one point seven percent pass completion. Ninety seven th household to have that many pass attempts. I mean you're being used to pretty much control the entire midfield. And you're passing it that many times. You're touching nearly two point six times in the attacking penalty area and still controlling the ball and making that many acura passes. It's actually incredible. His ten point seven progressive carries. Which means you know he gets the ball in makes you know. Those effect effective runs into the opposing half. He's in the ninety nine percent thailand. That is well. Progressive passes makes the smart passes seven point five per ninety minutes. It's in the ninety eight th percentile and the technical skills. Two point three dribbles completed per ninety minutes. The ninety seventh percentile. You name it. Marco variety does it. And i mean if you weren't sure about that you look the way he played for italy in the euro's was an absolute vital piece of the way that they Made that run to the euro final and eventually won it Just just an absolutely incredible midfielder. Marco over artisan. I honestly hope that he stays with. Pse for his entire career. I mean now at the age of what twenty eight. He's kind of already passed that time to really make a big move elsewhere. He's already in his in the club but he you know he's probably gonna spend the rest of his career with and i'm happy that it's with. Psg mark over rt number. Eight possibly could have gone higher. But i had to respect The other guys up ahead and just what they did this past season. And that includes marcus. Markle's urine. I mean the performance that he had for athletico madrid this season. I mean it. Just look at that. I mean he had what Forty five matches played with team. The league and champions league get thirteen goals and twelve assists absolutely phenomenal and his ability to also be a decent piece in the defense as well It's it really goes without saying that. Mark villaret llorente was one of the key pieces to athletico madrid title-winning season and and just is one of the best midfield in the world. That's why he comes in and number seven. I all the attacking us statistics. He's pretty much near the top. Among midfielders he had. I'm probably one of the most touches in the attacking penalty area for For midfielders three point. Three six per ninety minutes in the ninety seventh percentile. And he's also like i said he's a decent defender t always works put about twenty a pressures per ninety minutes in the seventieth percentile and does a lot of that dirty work and and for a guy to be as good as he is in the attack to do that as well Just shows you. How versatile he is and just what he does for diego. Simione squad I i honestly the wasn't really much talk about him. I didn't really hear much news about the kind of season marcus rent was. That's why he wasn't really in my thoughts. Was i thinking about this list. But he absolutely deserves to be in this top ten and possibly even higher with the kind of stats. He put up the season and number six. We have frankie they young. I mean the the young stud just continues to impress at barcelona with his ability to control the ball Make the right decisions with the passes. I mean ninety two point. One percent pass completion. That's in the ninety seventh percentile among among his defense could use a bit of work but his control with the ball is a bill his technical skills just make him one of the like abortion loan midfielder he is exactly the type of midfielder that barcelona love to have a guy that can push it up the field. Make the right decisions and be dangerous inside the box as well i mean. He had three goals and five assists between forty four league and champions league appearances and Probably should have had more. I mean just the way he was able to set up players throughout the season. wasn't credible. And frankie young was certainly eight at excellent signing for barcelona to have in you know Last season any proven it. He's proven it through his time. He's not shied under the lights of barcelona and continues to impress and going to be a major fixture for this team for years to come and number five. We have to go to iago of liverpool. I mean this guy is Even though last year. I had him at number one. Because i mean the role that he played for byron munich was unquestionably. The probably the best filled role of any player that i probably named in any list through From last year's top tents but This season he played a little bit less less of a role he had. What twenty four premier league appearances for champions league appearances he was dealing with injuries with co did But he's still one of the best midfielders in the world Creating three shock creating actions per ninety minutes in the eighty nine th percentile had one of the best pass. Completion percentages can can get the ball. Forward has great dribbling skills and just honestly overall. He does a little bit of everything. I mean to be able to defend as well at three point. Six tackles per ninety minutes. I was in the ninety fifth percentile. One point eight seven interceptions. Eighty seven th percentile. He really did it all for liverpool last season and was one of the main reasons why they didn't absolutely fall off a cliff. Just you know his his consistency when he when he was out there. If you would've played you know more games they would have surely been an champions league spot for the entire season and wouldn't have had to make a late stretch down you know towards the end of the season to to get into that champions league spot but tiago is just an all around midfielder and it's perfect for that box to box midfielder position so Tiago entira comes in at number five and number four. We have a regular fixture in this list. And that's luka modric. I mean What he means to real madrid can't really be put into words but he's just he's just an amazing player man. I mean he does a bit of everything whether you need them to come back on defense. He's not the best defender but he does get about one point. Seven interceptions ninety minutes. That's good for the seventy eight th percentile. So we does put the work in but he mainly gets get. Mo- is most effective in the attack. I mean his ability to score from pretty much anywhere he. He is a threat from anywhere within twenty yards. Twenty five yards. He's a threat he can do it. All his passing is playmaking is really really good to say the least and i just really couldn't put them madre any lower than four. I mean i really think he's that good but there are a couple of other younger players that are there is one younger player. That is kind of you. Know stepped into his into that role of a box of box midfielder and his taking with stride and that's number three mason mount. I mean what this guy did. For chelsea last season the e was easily their best player even though he had eight goals and seven assists in forty eight or forty seven premier league and champions league appearances He did it all whether it was. A dribbling is technical skills as ability to get the ball field his ability to defend everything was like incredible stuff from him. I mean you look at his dribbling. 's one point five. Two dribbles per ninety minutes in the eighth percentile among midfielders all of his attacking. Statistics are in the ninetieth percentile except for non penalty goals and assists only because he you know. A lot of that contribution came from team. Oh verner but he was the glue that really put that whole unit together. I know nicolo conti was probably the best player in the second half of the season. But i mean what mason mountains just continuously been able to do growing in such a big club like chelsea and and really turning himself into one of the best midfielders in the entire world is an impressive feat and something that cannot be overlooked and the one thing i like the most about him is yankees grown in a big club so a lot of young players will get a little cocky and think that they're better than what they actually are but he does not give into that he is always working. Hard is work rate is amongst the best of players that i really have seen You look at his pressures twenty one point six pressures per ninety minutes. That's in the eighty third percentile among midfielders J- just an incredible talent and that at twenty two years old has a lot more room to grow so Just get ready to see what makes out has for you this upcoming season and number two we have a i mean one of the best playmakers and just overall midfielders of my generation in that goes to tony cross. I think he didn't have as good a season this year. But in in what forty appearances between liliane champions league he had three goals twelve assists and was just an absolute monster for for for real madrid. And i'll be honest. I would go down and say that he was probably their best player if not second to what Courtois had an amazing season. Customer was also up there but twenty cross is about as important a piece to rummage rids. Play style as anybody i mean. He's in the ninety nine percentile among assists with point. Three four per ninety minutes shock creating actions four point fifty five ninety minutes absolutely incredible stuff from tony cross. In the ninety seven th percentile got amongst the most pass attempts among midfielders. Not mark over rt tight but still about ninety four pass attempts for ninety minutes. His eight point six progressive passes for ninety minutes ninety nine percentile as well. He just makes all the right. Decisions has an incredible iq and the only reason he's not number one is because there was someone that just had a ridiculous resurgence in his career. And i needed the recognition. That was deserved to him and that goes to ill kyw gone. I mean what this guy was able to do this past season. I mean in forty appearances between premier league champions league. He had sixteen goals easily. The most of anyone on this list and three assists. I mean absolutely ridiculous stuff from ilk gone. He isn't he didn't have a single season over ten goals up to this point and he just absolutely turned into a zenit on this year in the ninety nine percentile amongst non penalty expected goals non penalty goals shocked. Totals like the non penalty expected goals. Plus expected goals assisted. I mean all those had been stats. He was amongst the best in with midfielders and on top of that he was also in leasing playmaker. Ninety one point four pass completion percentage ninety fifth percentile. His dribbling was incredible as progressive carries great. He had amongst the most touches in the attack and penalty position. Any always just felt like was in the right spot at the right time always was just and that really comes down to his smarts. Iq to know where he has to be to make an impact. And that's what did for manchester city last year. And that's why he was the leader in goals for the club. I it's really hard to really even fathom because i never would have expected this from milk the gun but he wasn't even on my list last year like can you guys think about it. He wasn't even on my list last year and he skyrockets all the way to number one. It is absolutely deserved. I mean the guy was an absolute when there was a stretch recording five straight games as could not be stopped and that's why he comes in at number one ad just absolutely incredible stuff from ill. Kyw gundi gone so That's going to wrap it up for this show. 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