34 Burst results for "Phil Jackson"
Would the Philadelphia 76ers Regret Trading Ben Simmons for James Harden?
"So a wo- jr is reporting. Adrian roggin ascii that. The sixers are now willing to include. Ben simmons intrigued todd for james harden but they are nowhere close to a deal. Lt would you. Trade ben simmons for james harden if power which team six. So if i'm the sixers. Do i want a pair. James harden with joel embiid. You see pictures of james harden yesterday. He looks like he may have put on the greg bergman little extra little extra dance harda and was one of the big criticisms with joel embiid that embeds outta shape the beat is oftentimes out of shape as well. Yes i haven't heard that hurt a lot but oh no him. Being out of shape is a thing. So okay if you're asking me. If i want to trade away my fit superstar bring in an odor. Maybe not always fit superstar to pair with my youngest not so thin superstar. I'm gonna say no. I don't wanna do that. Trae now for ben simmons. You have to buy. His hair's not taken benson yeah. I don't think that's going to sell the the one thing. And we've we've read this tim. Tim macmahon i think wrote this article about james harden that he really alienated his teammates. Because it's described in that article that when you have. The james harden experienced that means he's running the entire show he decides if he's late for film session film session weights if he wants to go to atlanta or if he wants to fly somewhere early to party you go where james goes when you sign up for the james harden experienced. He runs your organization. I read that. I read this piece today. After i heard you guys talking about it and the line that caught me was it was an organized. Aau team that that. If if they were they were playing in la. James one of the team to stick around an extra night because he wanted to do as parting reminded me of watching the michael jordan documentary earlier this year. When phil jackson talks about letting dennis rodman go do what he needs to do. But could you imagine if rodman were the leader you know. Could you imagine if rodman showed up out of shape. See people forget robin party but he never showed about shape. He party but the next day he bought out everything. Great billable z. That's the rub though hardened balls out i mean you can sail even if all this stuff that masons brought up his true and there's no reason to think that tim macmahon made it up so i think it's all true one of the quotes in that piece that scott was talking about. Is we knew if we had more than one day off in a row. The james harden was on a plane. Go into party. But we also knew he would come back and drop fifty point triple double on people the problem with this whole this whole issue. The whole heart issue is there's only fifteen guys in the world they can lead your team to a title and you need to have at least one and maybe two of them and hardens one of those guys so he's not. What are you talking about his first team all nba four times your conflict eighty accolades from the media and stats with being. Do lead your team to a championship. Those aren't bra. Elsa elsie you're right. He's great with the counting stats guy won the won the mvp two years ago. He walked up to the podium. And said you're listening to k spn los angeles but can't you make a distinction between a guy who can can put up stats and a guy who can score versus a guy who can lead a team to a championship. Yup there is a
Did 1998 have to be the last dance for Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls?
"At last we heard Michael Jordan say that from the outset of the nineteen ninety seven ninety eight season it was their last chance Phil Jackson he said could have gone any joint in the regular season and still would not have been back throughout the last dance we were reminded of Jordan's competitiveness and as we watch the end of a ten hour documentary about a team a franchise that just won six titles in an eight year span Michael Jordan was upset he did have a chance to go for a seventh the bulls were broken up the rebuilding began after that nineteen ninety eight championship could they have had one more in the could they have kept the team together if they tried ESPN's Michael Wilbon Jackie MacMullan I would bet on Scotty Michael and Phil Jackson anytime anywhere let's start with that but here's the problem Phil and Jerry Krause Scott their relationship was untenable by that point so there was no way Phil was going to come back if you don't have still come back then who's going to control Dennis robin even
ESPN Michael Jordan doc: 'The Last Dance' episode 3-4 highlights
"From now last night the last dance Michael Jordan of the Chicago Bulls we have a so it's three and four and these two episodes centered on two different revolving storyline it's been a little bit confusing as great as the filmmaking is it's been a little confusing if they darted back and forth between eras the reason they're doing this is not just a start to finish documentary the timeline of the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls which which start hypothetically would Jordan gets there the eighties then go right through nineteen ninety eight instead of it's built around the all access footage that they got in nineteen ninety eight and so that's got to be at the core of it and then they build around that the sub plots of what happened with Jordan first got there the building of the culture of the hiring of Phil Jackson the resentment of the Jerry Krause the addition of Scotty Pippin all these little things along the way and so last A. U. two totally different eras kind of combining these two episodes the one era being the nineteen late nineteen eighties early nineteen nineties wars with the Detroit Pistons the bad boys pits and buys that Thomas Joe Dumars and Dennis Rodman and then the modern carnival surrounding Dennis Rodman with the bulls and I say moderate in air quotes because it was nineteen ninety eight so you have the late eighties wars with the pistons and the late nineties battles in keeping Dennis Rodman on tracks was been a little confusing to go back and forth if you're not really familiar with how the whole thing unfolded I thought as I assumed that the episode against the episode of the wars with the pistons were going to was going to be one of the most captivating if not the most captivating because it is a moment in time where Michael still can't win and I think that there is I don't want to see it inaccurate because it is accurately the the reputation of Michael Jordan's accurately depicted as six time champion he did those things he was six now in the NBA finals six NBA finals MVP awards they never went to a game seven so is accurately depicted as a winner but what is often times forgotten is there is a chunk of his career he is not a winner and when I see the tear downs of lebron James o'reilly C. with anybody's compared to Michael of they don't have the killer instinct they're not a winner they don't take the last shot all this stuff that really is surrounded lebron by and large but it's hit other players as well and kind of makes everybody pal compares to Michael I keep reminding myself and those around me yeah but Michael wasn't always Michael that we know him now he's a finished product he is now a icon he was a winner but there were years that's the reason is because I watch those years had remember getting Sports Illustrated the mail where it said basically you don't the pistons are stopping Michael Jordan could can Michael didn't get past the pistons can Michael Jordan win a championship and that the conversation at that time nationally was Michael great individual player cannot win the title is not good enough to make his teammates better in Seoul I was glad that that part of the narrative is being talked about with that with the pistons that does our blood feuds and Michael could not get over this any loss to the pistons three consecutive years the only highlight the last two years the United ninety last night they lost we get eighty eight as well that is three years off Hey gene for Michael to after where they did they finally get over to nineteen ninety one so those wars to me were the most fascinating part about last night's two episodes because that to me is one of those interesting errors if not the most interesting era of the bulls is that they are better than garbage which they were when he took over when when he got drafted they're not as good as they were when it was assumed they would just blow through the league they're in this transition state it it's almost like it's almost like growing from a warm or caterpillar to a butterfly it's in that moment is the nineteen ninety in nineteen ninety one pivot point post seasons where they lose to the to the pistons in seven and then they finally beat him in nineteen ninety one by sweeping them and I say and the bad boy pistons walk off the floor before the game is over and don't shake the
How the Warriors stack up against Jordan's Bulls
"Everybody in the free world. Watch the last dance the other night. It appears Draymond. Green did too and draymond green went on a podcast yesterday. uninterrupted W RT s after. Show party with Paul Rivera and Maverick Carter. No less And he likened their last season with Kevin Durant the warriors to what he had just watched on. Tv with the last season of the Bulls and he didn't hold back and he said one of the things from watching it. Was that what you saw? Is everybody kind of set it up like this is going to be the last year and so there was none of that elephant in the room hanging out there for their team That last warriors team with Durant and said that you know. Steve tried to deal with it but Kevin was asked about it every day. Dream on saying I want to be a warrior for Life Klay say and I want to be a warrior for life and then there was this elephant in the room the entire year and it was almost as if he watched the last dance and thought Jeez They handled that a lot. Better like hanging out there the whole year. Everybody knew that was going to be the end and so they just treated it that way the whole year. What you guys think. I mean ownership didn't handle it better. The player of the players may have the players may have handled it at worst. And Scottie Pippen you know getting the surgery when he did wanting out you know Jordan thinking was selfish but ownership on the warriors side of things. At least their goal is building with sustainability. They WANNA keep steph curry and Klay Thompson and continue winning. Reisen Dorf in Krause and the Bulls were ready to pull the plug after the first three championships. Trying to trade pippen for camp granted that still a win but then after it it's about China. Tear Down Arriba. I don't see that from the warriors now but it is fascinating. How much history has repeated in some ways with the disease of more and whatnot that manifested with Katie? Always being jealous of steph curry in the spotlight that he received and you look at what the Bulls went through in the nineties. I it is hard to see the parallels from the players side. We think I didn't see it. I just think Jerry mind was a I think he was a little narcissistic with it is totally different situation. Durant in that situation is basically the Rodman character. Rodman was on the Bulls for three years. Durant shows up for three years pushes him to another level but other I mean the bulls thing was so different Jordan and pippen were together for you know twelve years and there were Phil Jackson for. I don't know it was at least nine or whatever and everything was the same and they were just going going going and they had all these different ups and downs and that warriors thing you know they durant was on that team for blip was if you add up when when he actually showed up and then when he left. It's less than three years. It's like thirty months It's not a perfect comparable for for either team. But I do think you know the players you know seeking that attention. Wanting what's there's at I think with that aspect there's some similarities but overall though I mean I'm with you in the sense that ownership in front office objectives here are far different in what the Bulls wanted to do in the nineties with Crowson. Reisen Dorf is far different than what the warriors are trying to do with Myers and and warriors ownership. Now right I mean the differences with the warriors thing. It was one person undermining the whole thing. Durant yeah the Bulls thing it was. It was like a bad marriage with you. Know eight nine different people. All knowing like the marriage is ending and I think with the warriors they kept trying to pull durant back in that second season when he was there was when it started to fall apart in the third season. I still feel like they felt like it might be salvageable until they had that clippers game and then after that I think there are some similarities with the chemistry. Let's say let's say this. Let's say draymond. His way would have played out the way he wanted to write like. I don't buy for one second. If Kevin Durant started that season said this is my last year with the warriors it still would have been a problem like the right here the whole year by the way. He should have done that though. That's how he should have handled it and I think part of the problem is he didn't handle it that way. And you know the players and the team new organization. They knew he was leaving. They knew about all the New York stuff they thought it was gonna be the Knicks but they knew he was leaving. It was by especially by February march ever in the league new so I think from that standpoint underminded what's the elephant in the room. That draymond talking about that. You know what I'm saying if they all had this understanding Kevin. Ain't going to be with US after this year. Then why is he acting like it was a problem throughout the entire year? That Kevin was just saying Oh. I don't know we'll see we'll because I think Kevin probably agree with this. I think there was still hope that he might do a one eighty. You know I I think that. And honestly with the with the ninety eight balls and you're gonNA find out in the tenth part it came a lot closer to everybody coming back except for Rodman I I think they knew Rodman was done but I think once they actually won. I think there was a moment there where they were like Holy Shit. What are we doing? We gotTA defend this again.
Draymond: Warriors had 'elephant in room' in KD
"And speaking of Draymond green we played a little bit of sound from him in the sports center update there and to what you're talking about again dream on green was on uninterrupted W. R. T. S. after party basically saying but at least the bulls knew from the beginning of the season this was it they knew it was going to be imploded after the ninety seven ninety eight season and they knew that was going to be it one way or another and that was that was the last chance exactly as as Phil Jackson moved into a fair and drain lines like we never had that opportunity that was kind of the elephant in the room at all does Steve what kind of of like let's just enjoy this year for what it is because we don't know where you make sure homes it didn't carry it necessarily carry the same weight because what should have happened we'll come out and say Hey man alive like this is it like so let's let's do this yeah this isn't it you know so but you can just leave because what happened was the question came to us everyday life claim also was asked about our country and it was strictly due to you know because what I was going home it was sad I want to be awarded for like I want to be here we started this thing this is why I want to be and then you kind of have children right I don't know what to do next year like it don't matter but it does matter because you're not the only person that has to answer that question and to be quite Frank with you you're the last person that has there's no question because you don't really say thank you don't say much to the media anything it's all of a sudden
Gerry Vaillancourt on the Legacy of Kobe Bryant
"Jerry Valen court Jerry V. as the show was called had a chance to talk to him about the legacy and career of Kobe Bryant he of course work for the Hornets during that time Kobe was drafted by the Hornets and then almost immediately traded to the LA Lakers book to the Hornets during those years played the Lakers a lot obviously and Jerry had a a front row seat many times at court side observing Kobe Bryant and how he operated and had a chance to interview Kobe several times I had four distinct sounds with him two of them had nothing to do with game related like a scouting report what are the keys for the game there was one particular time that stands out and Kobe used to come by the broadcast position give broadcasters daps before game to come across and it always say hello there was one particular time when I was traveling and I used to do my talk show on the road before games I'm at the staples center and they set me up court side doing the show that I had briefly chatted with Colby had a shootaround a few weeks prior some courts I doing my talk show and there's about twenty minutes left of their time and the Lakers want to comment on the floor to do a pre game walk through to go over a few things and Phil Jackson who was very strict send someone over to say you got to tell him that he's going to have to go an engineer at the time said coach is only fifteen twenty minutes left to go can you wrap it up and Kobe Bryant walked over and he said to Phil Jackson well it's okay it's okay coach just give me a few minutes I need to chat with my promise something and then Jackson said okay and they moved to the other end of the floor Kobe sat on the the rest you know with the official scores table is requested a pair of headphones we were doing a segment at the time define greatness and your favorite player in any sport I'll be over heard it he put the headphones on and he listened to the final segment didn't take part in it just listen to it at the conclusion I said to him the next time you're in town and I was in New Orleans at the time the next time you're in town I need to get a one on one I want your definition of greatness and he said you got it he went to the shoot around sure enough in New Orleans a few weeks later I'm leaving the Hornets shootaround and the Lakers are coming in and there's Colby Danny walked up and he said I got your definition are you ready he never forgot he never for god and he gave me ten minutes and I looked up and I I smiled I said he remembered and he said yes I did and he he was so meticulous on those things and if you read the numerous articles about and you'll see other media members and sports writers make reference to his graciousness and how meticulous he was in his ability to recall so he goes ready let's do what I got ten minutes or or Phil Jackson is going to have my you know what we stand there and I said okay and I turned on a little Zuma scene I said Kobe Bryant into one define greatness he didn't say anything for a moment and he said and I'll never forget this hi I'm never forget this because I I wrote it down in one of my idea journals and I used it on the show that afternoon and he said greatness is doing it over and over again nobody matches you this is great this is a choice I may be part of the rest of my life and that was it I never heard it put that way and I said a chase he goes yeah he said I'm always chasing a ring I'm always chasing who's ever wanting to guard me make him regret he guarded me and he said that with a smile a little sense of humor and I said to him that's all I need to be set back I said yeah and then I'll give me a Pat ran down the tunnel he was gone into practice did that moment right there but for him to remember and then come over and I share that story with several media members throughout the league and all those years I was traveling and they all had moments with Colby about how acceptable he was and is amazing ability of recall and and some of the most minute details so that that's one memory right there Jerry V. talking to me about Kobe Bryant Bryant and and he's he's right right he he heard heard stories stories throughout throughout the the day day yesterday yesterday about about how how Kobe Kobe would would remember remember things things and and a a lot lot of of times times it it was was members members of of the the media media they they couldn't couldn't believe believe that that all all these these years years later later or or months months later later or or whatever whatever the the case may have been that he had to very acute memory for things he said to people no matter where they were along the
Airport rape victim files lawsuit against suspect and former employer
"A woman who who says says she she was was raped raped on on the the job job well well at at Atlanta's Atlanta's airport airport is is now now suing suing the the suspect suspect in in their their former former employer employer every every day day I I have have to to live live through through it it a a really really Amancio Amancio was was on on a a janitorial janitorial shift in hearts Phil Jackson's atrium when she says her boss took her into a locked room and raped her he told me to pull my pants down to do he says he was starring in me with my job the ABM industries supervisor Eddie Sanders is jailed but Nancy is lawyer Jonathan Johnson says the company has a years long history of sexual violence detailed in a documentary and lawsuits those women held the company accountable and you would have thought they might have changed some of their behavior practices but obviously not
Knicks Rumors: Are David Fizdale, Steve Mills, and Scott Perry's Jobs Safe Amid Woes?
"Terminator words NASCAR ESPN senior NBA insider on the shell pens or performance I protect your engine this winter use pens all synthetic motor oil made from natural gas not crude oil won't so in that regard we don't believe Davis is there will be much longer with this job considering that statement but when we look at next level up and you mentioned this is not a great roster the decisions made in the off season when do Steve mills and Scott Perry's jobs get a look at this point considering Steve mills is now on I think its fifth head coach as the next president of basketball operations James Dorn question and he has shown tremendous confidence and especially Steve mills whose band on the job through several different regimes president of women all the way back to the Isaiah Thomas days you know Phil Jackson comes and runs a team and then we don't see bills gets another I'll run way here as president and you know they're easy history has shown that Dolan has had our favorites clearly see bills one of his favorites and you know I'm told he has all power me now to make a decision on they would've Israel's future and you know whether you know whether they will look at the front office down the line I mean you I mean you know in these jobs if you don't win if there's you need to be a really smart front office guy said to me you know years ago you need to be either you need to have one of two things you need to be able to sell winning or sell hope any kind of look around the N. B. A. you could and and and you can look at the places where you can sell either of them and right now for the next you certainly don't have winning and and I think selling hope is really difficult for where where they are
Magic Johnson continues to tarnish the Lakers' and his legacy
"In addition to Vogel, being officially introduced Monday, the Lakers were front and center with Magic Johnson's comments on ESPN's I take then I start hearing, you know, massing you're not working hard enough, Magic's, not in office. So people around the Laker office was telling me saying things, and I didn't like those things being said behind my back wasn't in the office enough, and so on and on. So Magic Johnson going public again with the dirty laundry from the LA Lakers. What do we make it ESPN insider Adrian Wiltshire around, I think two things with Magic Johnson. Number one, a lot of excuses and blame on other people for the simple fact that he didn't want to do this job. He told he said he told janey bus in the beginning, I'm not going to be here on a full-time basis. I'm going to run my business. He didn't stay in there on a full-time basis. He was not around very. Often. So if rob Pelinka had said to somebody Magic's, not here. He's not around. It was a statement of fact, maybe not so much backstabbing. And number two, the fact that magic brought up the idea today of wanting to buy the Lakers. They're not for sale. But certainly, he got that idea out there that he would like to own that team to me that was certainly something of a message for, gene. Everything he doesn't says, is strategic is that the reason in your mind why he came out and wanted to talk about all of this today? I think it was. There's no question. It was part of it. But the blaming of everybody else for him walking away how he quit. In the end he made it very clear, this job takes tremendous commitment wasn't willing to make it right. Even though he made that clear between bus in the beginning at the end of the day, she's the leader. She's the boss, boss. And so you have to point to the top when there's an issue like those issues, the now she's got an even bigger problem on her hands. Palinka still running things. How does she won't? She has the lead here, and by Magic Johnson not being around by him going weeks at a time not being around the facility, not that valuating talent not working with coaches it created a leadership vacuum. And you've seen a lot of people. A lot of names, the Rambus is Tim Harris. Phil Jackson pe-, different people are going to fill that void. She has to decide about how she wants this organization. Run by committee with lots of people or does, she want to centralize it. And right now, she seems to want this organization by committee. That's a hard way to do it in the states that way, then how can anyone expect things to change by the way Frank Vogel? The new head coach congratulations. This is going to be fun. Speaking, frank. We have much more on his news. It wasn't about him. Of course Pelinka was going to be asked about the match situation. Angeles. Magic's comments on Monday, of course, much of it being a he said he said situation as for the reaction from our Stephen Smith. There's no way in hell. I'm not
Lakers officially announce Frank Vogel's hiring as next coach
"Lakers officially naming Frank Vogel as their new coach the team announcing the hiring on Monday. They will officially introduce him next week the guys PTI the Lakers gave Vogler three you're. Deal which was to fewer than Tyron Lou demanded the Lakers also hired Jason Kidd is the lead assistant. But wait, there's more. Phil Jackson was reportedly consulted on Vogel and blessed the decision will on how does this higher with you? How like Frank Vogel? I think Frank Vogel has been a worthy coach like LeBron also likes entertaining the notion of people that he has been rivals within the past bringing them aboard. Which is why he had you know, crazy man from Vogel's team from Indiana come with them last year. Yeah. Yeah. So LeBron seems okay with that rivals is a certain connection. He has with him. And he probably knows he played against Frank Vogel may really respect Frank. So I'm not going to sit here and diminish Frank Vogel. I don't know what the Lakers doing. I'm going to and try to pretend like I know what the link is doing. So if you know take over there are two things that are interesting to me one is definitely going to happen. Lebron going to wake up one day, and he's going to say I want to play for this guy anymore, and he'll do to him what he did to David black and Jason Kidd moves right up in and he becomes present. Jason because he he won't be Frank Vogel. That's why he wants to play. So he wants to play for the next guy. The second thing that interests me is the reporting of the influence that Kurt Rambis apparently has coaching Linda Rambus hurt with whole here is Kurt Rambus is record as and NBA thirty two and one thirty to sixty five and one sixty four with thirty two was Minnesota. What what does he know about coaching record sixty five and one sixty four what what is he going to say? Basketball includes coaching just because you can't coach yourself. Jerry, West record is coast. But he hire coaches Jerry West walked out and said, it's not for me. He he couldn't get it done. But he could hire people who could let's. Jeering saying this. About coaching as a criteria. Do you say you have no idea what the land? I I don't think anybody has any idea right now. The Lakers fall this summer and into next year. The forty five year old Vogel did not coach last season following two years with the magic he landed in Orlando after a five year stint with the Pacers, including trips to the Eastern Conference finals in two thousand thirteen and
Kyrie Irving's Free-Agency Countdown Officially Begins Now
"Is what happens with Kyrie Irving because Kyrie Irving is now in a situation where he's going to become a free agent at the end of the season. And he's head is worse stretch of playoff basketball in his career over the last three games. The guy has literally missed forty three shots in three games. Forty three shots Janta Toco is averaging nearly thirty one points per game in this series. And Kyrie Irving is averaging twenty one and you're saying, well, yeah. Yeah. This is the better player, but Kyrie Irving is supposed to be the alpha male the Celtics team he's supposed to be the star. And he's averaging ten less points per game than the guy on the other side is and after the game when he's asked about he's shooting struggles, he said who cares? That's what kyri ever said. Who cares? We'll tell you. Everybody cares. Right everybody. That's rooting for the Boston Celtics. Everybody on your team cares. Because if you don't perform at a high level they have no opportunity to win the game. He said after he shot eight for twenty two from the field on Friday night that he didn't expect another eight for twenty two performance. He followed that up on Monday with a seven of twenty two performance after game three he called himself, a basketball genius a basketball genius. That just so happened to miss how many shots v. Fifteen in the last game. He played them. But Cairo is telling us all that. He is a basketball genius. And for all the things that have happened this year with Kyrie Irving and the Celtics organization he's called out his teammates multiple times. He said the young guys aren't ready to win a championship yet. And to that I would say kyri you're not exactly ready to championship as the alpha dog yet. You could do it when you're playing side kicked. Lebron James, right? It's like those motorcycles with little sidecars. Kyrie was in the sidecar. You can do it as the guy in the sidecar. But you can't do it as the guy actually driving the motorcycle, right? Yeah. I'm able to prove that you haven't done that yet. So kyri you have not proven. You can win a championship yet as the main guy. Okay. So all the rumors all season long were about New York because kyri Irving originally said that he wants to stay with the Boston Celtics as long as the organization would have him. He did a commercial with his father where he said, I want my jersey retired in the rafters here in Boston. Right. So he said all that stuff. And then when he plays the game at Madison. Square garden. He says asked me about my free agency on July first, he also referred to the New York Knicks as a great organization, he's the first person ever to refer to the Knicks as a great organization, they have one of the worst odors and professional sports in James Dolan. But it appears that Kyrie Irving could be interested in going to the Knicks, and they are the favourite to land Kyrie Irving in free agency. So say, hypothetically, he decides to go if he follows Kevin Durant again, it would be something that is a masculine for Kyrie Irving because their whole reason he wanted out of Cleveland is he wanted his own team. Right. And he basically got the best situation to get his own team. He had to number three picks, Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum. He had out Horford. Who's a great player? The guy's a great defender. Great shooter does everything for you. Great passer at the big man position. So you had a great roster around you, and you were unable to take advantage of that as the guy. So maybe Cairo Irving is learning. What were you all are finding? Out is Kyrie Irving just isn't a main guy. And if he does go to New York, and he does go there to play with his good, buddy. Kevin durant? What would that be saying? He would actually be admitting. What we've all been asking about. Kyrie Irving is can you actually carry a team because if you go there to play with Kevin Durant? Sorry kyri. Kevin durant? The best player on the team. That's pretty damn obvious. So you'd be going there to be Kevin Durant sidekick you'd be getting back in that little small seat in the motorcycle alongside Kevin Durant. Just like you were doing with the Brian James. So you'd actually be admitting that you were wrong about yourself. You were wrong that you could carry a team to a high level to an NBA championship caliber level. You'd actually be admitting that but moving forward with this thing say hypothetically that they get Kevin Durant and Kyrie goes to play with his friend because he can't carry his own team. He goes there. Then the question becomes if the Knicks are able to win the draft lottery. Would they be willing to go all in and make another big move? Because what the Knicks could do which is amazing to me to even fathom this. The Knicks have been one of the worst run organizations in sports they've given out bad contract after bad contract. James Dolan has been a mess off the court the issues, which is Oakley. It goes on and on right? There's been so many issues with the New York Knicks. Okay. This team that was so dumb. Carmelo Anthony only wanted to play for the New York Knicks. He was in the final Ervin's contract. And you got it your roster to trade for Carmelo Anthony when he would have signed with you in the off season. Anyway. Okay. This is that same organization this organization could in a couple of months land to stars in Kyrie Irving, and Kevin Durant. Just because they're located in New York and just because they play in Madison Square Garden. It's kind of like the Dallas Cowboys like players want to play for him. Not that it's bringing them any high level of success. But because of the Dallas Cowboys, right? The Knicks are kind of that team like just because it's the Knicks and its New York, and it's Madison Square Garden, apparently people go there and with Kevin Durant is. It's this whole situation of well. I'm never going to get the credit. I properly deserve in Golden State, or at least. I'm never going to get the credit. I think I deserve. So if I go to New York, and if I carry a team there, maybe I will win back the fans that left me saying it was a cowardly moved to go to Golden State. So you have two guys at grumpy, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. Then the question becomes if you win this lottery. Are you going after Anthony Davis do because that's the next good legitimately? Do. That would be the best piece that anybody anybody in the league could offer the New Orleans pelicans, the number one pick in the draft, which would mean, essentially the rights design Williamson. Okay. So you could have that if you're the New Orleans pelicans. That's why they made the right move the whole time I've been trying to say this by taking the Lakers deal because now Philadelphia maybe they become involved. They put Ben Simmons in this thing. We know the Celtics could offer Jason Tatum. Jalen brown. If say, hypothetically that they think that Kyrie irvings gonna stay. So there's that package out there. The Lakers packages still. There. There will be mystery teams that come around in this thing and Zion. Williamson out of all the stuff that people could offer. He would be the most attractive piece that anybody could offer. So the Knicks out of pure ineptitude. The Knicks pure incompetence could actually have the best trading piece to pick up a third superstar to pair hypothetically with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. They've been so bad that somehow this could result in them this summer landing Kevin Durant's, kyri Irving. Anthony davis. Because of the fact they've been so bad like Kevin Durant going to New York. It's not like he's going to a winner. Right. That's part of the reason he can leave golden safe for New York is essentially what he's saying is. Yeah, I'm going to place. It hasn't won since Phil Jackson was a player ongoing place. That's desperate for a winter. Like he can actually sell going to New York because it hasn't wanted a high level the franchise he can actually sell that. That's a selling piece for him to go to New York to win fans back, and you know, the Kevin Durant. The second he signs on the dotted line or the second. He releases something whatever like the player's Tribune. Or something the second. He does that. He is a hero in New York. He's a hero in New York. Okay. And it's all because of this organization's incompetence they've been so bad that Kevin ranker justify going there. They were so bad this year that they could have the number one pick in the draft which they could either use on Williamson who's the best prospect since Anthony Davis or they could use. I n Williams to trade four Anthony. Davis depending on what kyri Irving and what? Kevin Durant could hypothetically what could hypothetically want. Now, if I was New Orleans that would be the easiest trait of my life. Okay. So Anthony doesn't wanna player he has an opt-out after this year. He's going to be a free agent next summer. You're telling me that you're gonna give me Zion. Williamson I could get Zion. Williamson who is the best prospect since this guy Davis that we Drake that we drafted years ago. Okay. Yes. Sign me up for that one. But man, I got to tell you this. And I understand that the Knicks. There's not really a reason to hate them because they haven't been good in a while. But would kyri Irving and Kevin Durant pairing be like the most unlikable pairing in the NBA? This would be worse than the Dwayne Wade. Chris Bosh, LeBron James pairing, right or the trio if you will because that was the reason people hated that trio wasn't because Dwayne Wade was dislike -able it wasn't. Because Chris Bosh was dislike it was. Because of the fact of how they did it, right? Lebron did the whole decision thing. And then they had that. Press conference where they came like out of the ground. And the bronze said not one not two not three that championship thing. Right. So that's why that team became dislike -able, but this team in New York would be dislike -able because of the guys. Right. They hate the media. They go after everybody they seem like they feel like they're victims. Right. We've seen with Kevin Durant time after time where he thinks that he's a victim. Same thing with Kyra. Kyrie Irving thinks he's a victim like Cairo serving. Also, there's no accountability. Kyrie Irving the guys not accountable for anything the other night when he misses twenty two shots. He said I wish I took thirty the guys not accountable. He talks about the shooting woes. He says, I'm not worried. There's no accounting. There's no I haven't played well in this series. I have to play better on the reason. We're losing I have to be better on the leader of this. There's none of that. There's no accountability whatsoever. When his team is struggling during the regular season. What does he say the young guys don't know what it takes to win a championship? So there's no accountability with Cairo Irving, everything that happens to Cairo Irving. That goes against his legacy that works in a negative manner. He tries to spin it in a way that it's the media's fault. He blamed the media for the Celtics locker room issues. He said the media tries to rip apart locker rooms kyri. You're the guy that's called out the young guys. You're the guy that got in the coaches face after he called the play for somebody else. You're the guy that yelled at Gordon Hayward on the court for passing Jason Tatum. When he was wide open at the end of the game against the magic this year. When Tatum was trying to win the game. You're the guy that did all that. You're the guy that has had a bad effect on the locker room. You're the guy that said you can't wait around for Jalen Brown. You're the guy that did all this. And he had the DASS ity to blame the media to blame the media for trying to destroy his locker room when he was doing all that stuff internally. He had the gumption to say something along those lines. And also you factor in remember when hiree Irving and Kevin Durant were at the all star game. And there was that video that emerged where it looked like Kyrie was saying to max lots and then Kyrie Irving when in. Hey reporter, I should say here in Boston. The Boston Herald Stevo pet gave him the opportunity. He said, hey, you wanna kinda pour water on that? Because that video had leaked out. There any said that you guys just do this for the likes and clicks. And this guy Steve pet that didn't tweet video didn't even write about the video and was just asking Cairo to comment on it in Cairo Irving said you guys just do this for the likes in clicks. He said, do you think this is what the fans care about this exactly what the fans care about? If you're gonna leave the fans actually really do care about that. That's why Kevin Durant free agency and your free agency. And Anthony Davis is trade destination. Those have been like the hottest topics in the NBA season. So Mike God that team with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant who had faked Twitter accounts. So he could go after fans fans that were criticizing him for leaving for Golden State two years later, he was still upset about that to the point where he put on Twitter that it's because it was Russ and nobody else around like that's why he left it. He'd. Didn't have enough around him to win a championship. He felt the need to defend himself on Twitter to just the random person that was tweeting at him. He made up a fake burner Twitter account. So that he could attack fans. Okay. Those two guys would be teaming up and possibly they team up with Anthony Davis who used to be likable. But now Anthony Davis says on LeBron show the shop that he couldn't believe after he asked for a trade that the fans booed him. He's like I poured seven eight years in there. And I go out there. And they me Anthony you ask the organization for a trade.
NBA Reveals Refs Missed 17 Calls for Rockets, 11 for Warriors in Game 1
"About officials during the NBA playoffs is nothing new, but the rockets apparently took it to the next level yesterday. Preparing a report to show that the refs cost them a trip to the NBA finals last season. We'll see how all this noise about bad calls affects tonight's game two and the rest of this series. But there's no easy answer. When it comes to officiating. James harden, something we talked about yesterday at great length. He's physical. He's unorthodox. He draws. Contact. He likes contact. He's always going to get a lot of calls. But the question is is he getting the right calls. It's important to remember. None of this is new because players and coaches have been complaining forever. You can Google Tim Duncan Joey Crawford or watch Phil Jackson, Pat, Riley work, the officials, and if you think Hardin is hard to officiate imagine trying to officiate a game, which akilah Neil. There's no perfect solution here, and you can't blame the rockets for at least trying to gain an advantage here a tight competitive series, and it may come down to how it's called. And it won't be the first time for sport. That's very difficult to officiate Steve Kerr had a little bit of fun with this yesterday at his press conference. He had this to say about fouls Kolding game on the focus should be on. Team's plane. Extremely hard me watching the he'll bowl teams just got after and competed. But you know, we just watched the tape upstairs. You don't think there were ten calls. We thought we got fouled in this is out goes, and every coaching illegal tell you the same thing, you watch the tape, and you hope man, that's that's. It's the nature game. It's it's very very difficult to officiate an NBA game. There's all kinds of gray area. And you know in the modern game. You know, a lot of players have have gotten really good at deception creating contact. Okay. Steve Kerr thrown out some verbal bouquets their complementing the officials. How would he feel if they lost game one? You know, they missed a lot of calls out there. The NBA has this two minute video review were they look at the calls. They missed and they admitted that they miss him calls in this game. My problem with the the rockets is let's live in the now, let's not be looking back to game seven last year. I got a problem with that. You gotta be Golden State. And it's now it's not you know, you guys caused us the NBA finals last year. Okay. How did you guys shoot? You miss twenty seven consecutive three pointers in that game. Was that the officials? Yes, that's because they were fouled apparently apparently all of them. What do they shoot like eight for forty four from three point range in game seven last year on your home floor? Yes. You didn't have Chris Paul? You should've won that game. But don't live in the past. And if you wanna bring attention to this now now all of a sudden, you're going down into your basement into your lab, and you're looking at all this. Video and say look at all of these miss calls. You had. Okay. The officials. Are you saying the officials are favoring the Golden State Warriors? Are you saying that's what I want to hear are these just bad officials is their favouritism?
Phil Jackson visits Lakers' practice facility
"He's I think he lives back in. We're NFL right now. I think he's so it'd be just like geo target location. They're not just joking. I think that. He lived over there. I know he's there a lot. Okay. But it is what you're saying that he was seen before let me just like all the conspiracy theories. He's not going to coach the team. I don't see that at all ever. Well, as long as the Brown James is they're pretty sure that LeBron and maverick Carter and the posse comment with him. Yeah. Now, you don't think magic genie could bridge that gap. Look, I will never say never to anything. I never thought filter coach Kobe again after that book. Right. And they want to champion. So never rule out the Lakers for say never Verschueren. Jamie. CBS sports fantasy football expert. We got a full border calls. He's joining us year because he's awesome. And thank you Jamie for hanging out. All right. So let me ask you a question. I have Cam Newton on one of my leagues in you know, it's one of those keeper league. So he's like my keeper quarterback. I've had them forever for the most part. He does all right for me. But God he's playing terrible now like should I just start and whatever else my backup is. I mean, it depends on who else your backup is. But it's not about I did explore another option. Look, he's got us up matchup against the same. They've been very good defensively of late and this older. I think is the biggest issue, you know, you might want
NFL This Week: Marc Lawrence picks the pros
"All right, by the way, Mark. I'm sure you'll be interested in this. Comcast has announced today they are issuing refunds to anyone who paid for the tiger very fill the match yesterday because Bleacher report the site streamed for free like the final three holes in the four playoff holes. And Comcast asks Bleacher report to go for go. And they're the ones that they put it on there. And that's a Turner company. They asked him to forgo all their pay per view revenue as well. So it's interesting. Good. I'm glad somebody's hand got bit. Because it was the most contrived pay-per-view thing I've ever seen. I mean next McGregor Mayweather fight just put out early for money. That's all that was a money grab. And I'm glad that that the cable companies didn't get to grab all the money they wanted, and they couldn't putt, and they couldn't unbelievable. All right. If anybody has interested Mark services. Eight hundred three two one seven seven seven seven on the internet at playbook dot com and all kinds of good statistics on their app playbook cube in the app store. Mark you have a great thanksgiving weekend. And we'll talk to you again next week Ayla Howard ever great weekend. Thank you. All right. Take care. Just think about that. I rob. I'm going to do this only because you've been hanging. There's something wrong here. There you go, rob. I'm gonna make a quick thirty seconds. Just because. I get I get business of Marc Lawrence sitting in his basement fan. I said thirty thirty seconds. All right. That's ten album. You got twenty left. Markelle fultz. He's he's probably Jerry Colangelo. That was probably the worst job. I g and traffic. Nearly you think so. I can't play play. And. Six. For three. Thanks. Thanks, rob. All right. Give you thirty seconds. You're wasted. But that's all right. I four w I pay back the studio Phil Jackson. And if you missed any of the show, we will put it up on podcast shortly day, bright Meyer here wasting all of our time and back at the studios. I said Phil Jackson. I believe it's Glenn Ray. Even though it's a holiday weekend. Okay. Glenn? Okay. Glennon Ray coming up. Everybody have a great finish to the holiday weekend. I will see you or you will see me tomorrow FOX twenty nine game day live at ten o'clock on FOX twenty nine in Philadelphia. And I will be with Marilyn Mike as we broadcast the eagles win over the giants tomorrow. I don't know. How don't ask me? How some sounds crazy? But we'll see what happens. Let's look at it this way, they really have to be better than they were last week. Everybody had a great weekend and stay safe WIP sports time here at the borgata and thanks to everybody at the borgata.
"Of things you face. Andrew luck this week. And I know you've seen film on Andrew. I love. Andrew lock I think life a lot of times is do you get support? Nobody can do it alone in life. Nobody no player. Michael, jordan. Yeah. Not in football, by the way, Michael Jordan needed Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson too. And I look at Andrew lock in those first few years, man. He didn't have an align. He didn't have a running game. Now, he has both Logan Ryan when you look at the film of Andrew luck. What do you see what jumps out to you? Because this is the biggest titans game in the regular season. Logan. I can remember in years. What do you see? I see that he's healthy. I mean, he's doing the ball. Like Andrew lucked does and early in his career when he was healthy and has some protection he was MVP candidate. So that's what it is the last games. He hasn't. He hasn't got saying. I mean, that's the key. If you give any quarterback or especially a good one some time in this lead. They can pick you apart. I mean, I I tip my hand. I think that we have the best cover guys NFL. I think we're the best secondary. I think we can match up with anybody man to man with our three corners and our Tuesday fifties. But if you give anybody time, you can't cover them forever. So we have to find a way to disrupt his timing it and then offense align make him uncomfortable. Similar to what we did last week. We just had to really make comfortable back there and allow our coverage in our in our in our rush to the Matt mareo, I think that's the key. You
Fred 'Tex' Winter dies at 96
"Former bulls coach Fred Tex winter considered the architect of the famed triangle offense passed away earlier today, the organization confirmed so that's a shame because he was he was the guy building the triangle, everybody thinks Phil. Sometimes you forget about the the you got you Bach and the defense and Tex winter on the offense. They were what they were the guys that the brains behind Phil Jackson, and Phil Jackson would always tell you immediately. The Tex winter was the one who was the architect of the triangle offense
"phil jackson" Discussed on First and Last
"Gulf pund hits or getting ready to unload on lefty who after the tournament got a chance to say his piece and explain himself very clearly in a way that still made sure to anger plenty of people here is phil talking about the controversial shot and the rule that he says he knew full well and good i know what the rules it's tissue penalty hitting moving ball the ball was going to go off in a bad spot i didn't feel like on continuing my display and i gladly take to shop penalty and move on i don't i don't mean it disrespectful you're taking it that way that's not on me i'm sorry that you're taking it that way certainly not meant that way but sometimes in this in these situations it's just easier to take the two shots and move on i last year on espn radio phil mickelson media savvy master manipulator so used to this setting getting up and had the answer ready to go and for so many people it still wasn't good enough we'll get you plenty of reaction to phil jackson and the most controversial golf shot that we've seen in quite some time apparently phil mickelson that's a fine sorry i say phil jackson that i really do that while boy is it monday first and last podcast mickelson this weekend commits a penalty will say in the world of golf by now if you haven't seen it ball's rolling past the whole for phil getting ready to roll down a hill and instead of letting it come to its normal conclusion rolling down the hill having continue a whole he was already deepened on was going to make a nine ended up with the penalty shooting ten on that whole was out of contention the course have been frustrating for everyone and phil tired of it just decides that instead a lead in the ball the way down he's going to bat it back take us to stroke penalty that he knows is coming that he says he is fully aware of he's thought about using before and just end the dance on that whole take it and move on.
"phil jackson" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Seriously nothing there's nothing just getting just focus there's nothing he could draw on that board that would be more important than getting those guys together saying but aren't we just aft up let's fix it gatherers phil jackson mope phil jackson seeing that lebron was kind of out of sorts at that point start on the bench for the first thirty seconds and then that would have focused ab it's your mind bill jackson would have put him on on the pine tell everybody else you guys get ready i'm going to put you in there right now when you're focused i'll get you back into the game there's just there's not a play in in the history of basketball that jim boylan in lou and the rest of the coaches could be drawing up that would that would make any sense to start over time and it's amazing how guys forget we were when i was at northern we were playing a game and we were up one they're bringing the ball up the court and one of our guys just one second left file they gonna make the two free throws three losing our coach goes what are you doing i felt we were down one coach guys have brain farts i believe i know it but yeah if anything tyler who should have realized the severity of the situation how dejected his team wasn't just use those few minutes instead of drawing stuff on the whiteboard forget it just get them together somehow you know in in some sort of an inspirational motivational thing if.
"phil jackson" Discussed on WEEI
"Some coach lots of success coach some of the greatest athletes to ever play in any sport michael jordan kobe bryant beat another one and so yeah he was a jerk he was a dick in that is just what we needed so message you don't think bill didn't know that he had heard these stories before and you don't think bill knew that this was the perfect message to get to the rest of the team you're coach can be a dick or you can think you coaches dick you can have problems with other players and not like other players and think other players are selfish but you gotta find a way of working together i think bill i think bill kind of also i don't you think he kinda like the great coaches kinda kinda run in the same circles kind of knew that phil jackson had that no personality only thing i ever heard of phil jackson was a you always always forcing not forcing but suggesting certain books to play oh yes he vicki by chopra the six meetings of light here you know whatever brady love that so yes do i anthony rods crop do i think that he said hey kobe you don't want to tell a story about phil jackson what a turkey is guys need that coach but we pushed you to be great it's all about about i read some notes for you here's a couple always need to know is that we mentioned this before the mob mentality right some guys tried to jump on this whole thing it's not fun new england but it just sort of died there you know like people you would think more would have if that was the case she would soldier said i don't like new york he said i never an issue with the atmosphere new york i felt like you should always push people to be.
"phil jackson" Discussed on Through the Wire
"As far as like phil jackson was an assistant for two years they had one like fifty games the collins the head coach dan regressive like forty seven wins fired for three three wayne and dr phil jackson come in and they win championships it's steve kerr shoot i was identity pay so that made me question field accident is phil jackson he inherited that's why i always say grandpa it's just the greatest me too because he inherited jordan horace grant all of them they was already there when feel kane inherited kobe kobe but i mean people go hit us up like how can you all say that but he he was still a great co not yet but i can't say he has varied is exactly can't say the greatest i still got pop and i don't think the occurs i really wanna see our cannot wait till they like years from now and they old or they move on damn they move on and he has to go somewhere else to coach or the the warriors gotta rebuild or something i really wanna see him coach because i i don't i don't honestly don't think he'd do shit he's a good people person i know that he cracked jokes and probably make them feel comfortable which is a part of being a coach but as far as coaching so we owns it after to have to show hi it's blue and you don't get shampoo the first half of the word is sham and the second part you definitely don't want to see in the shower that's why i made up a neat word flow tech shen the feeling of security you get when you're new houses protected by home insurance through me and progressive i mean seriously shampoo what part of that makes you wanna rub it all over your hair so even average of seventeen percents on car insurance when you bundle home and auto through progressive progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and other insurance discount not available in all states or situations.
Vehicles used as weapons
"Unless three minutes five thirty nine dollar midtown temperature is fifty eight to update the deadly attack in toronto wsb's bill caiaccio reports live with authorities are not yet calling it terrorism yet marcy ten people are dead another fifteen injured after a van runs over pedestrians this happened during a very busy time in the city of toronto wanted the busiest streets in the country police chief mark saunders id's the suspect is twenty five year old alex minassian who was not on their radar ryan baker is one of the suspects neighbors i think that someone like this live in your neighborhood it's scary while police say it seemed deliberate they say there's no known connection to terrorism reporting live bill caiaccio wsb eight students are injured after their school bus crashes onto eightyfive dekalb county until the nineteen students from cedar grove middle school and champion theme school were on their way home when the bus of may contact with a tractor trailer the district says students were transported to children's health care eggleston as a precaution police have not yet told us what caused the crash and alfa reta police officers injured after a high speed chase down georgia four hundred that reach speeds of more than one hundred forty miles per hour went through roswell down in the sandy springs howard miller of alfa reta police tells channel two action news the officer involved in the crash was treated at the hospital and released forty nine year old john bowling faces several charges including dui a former school employees in northwest georgia's indicted on child sex charges the rome news tribune reports twenty old jeffrey ryan lance is charged with arranging sex with people online he thought were minors was one of eight arrests made during a child exploitation sting the floyd county school district says it's fired lands from his job in the city's department following his arrest wbz news time five forty one nineteen minutes three our second sim some of the aviation weather conditions around the arts phil jackson international airport has three hundred foot ceiling at about one mile visibility kind of murky meterologist kirk mellish shorts live once again we're gonna be stuck with that all day do you expect lifts it will lift the after we get the son ogden starts warming processes going some.
"phil jackson" Discussed on The Big Podcast With Shaq
"From black votes jar oprah would have all the black votes be kfc say see i was thinking car carson i wrote hummer you might wanna hummer underneath you change that's totally different drill phil jackson said i'm not sure i could coach today spoil players if they did i'd have to have a blank right on the bench phil jackson would like to have on the bench dealing with today's spoiled athletes drill phil jackson said i'm not sure i could coach today spoil players that they did i'd have to have a blank right on the bench triangle a triangle that's she killing you what would phil jackson have of aw would come down when the players are being crappy rob i said a hookah who so hookah i'm telling you you started strong and your fizzle and adia and the nra one more here draw mark mark cuban said people just assume the mavericks male employees are bunch of pigs so maybe it's time we took down the blank in the lobby what did the mavericks have in the lobby that would make out to be male pigs i draw mark cuban said people just assume the mavericks male employees are bunch of pigs i guess it's time we took down the blank in the lobby shocking the shark tank these answers really went to refined rob rob the stripper poles she said the sausage thanks man drew a great job buddy thank you but ingratiate man say load everybody in richmond force.
"phil jackson" Discussed on Dunc'd On Basketball Podcast
"To their success so i would anticipate that barring something because they don't have much flexibility to get better over this offseason they're probably not going to be a playoff team next year either i mean look at little let's say it takes the full twelve they're going to be i would anticipate by that point they'll be out of the play it'll be will be tough for them to make their way back and we'll see where the east it yup the offer for next year make right hostages drew you'll be difficult so that's the last two years before his his next contracts and that could be an extension these extension negotiations get a lot more complicated because europe do they want to play hard ball here predators and we saw the difficulty with aboard parker already i mean i think they probably still feel better about porzingis who played a higher level than parker when parker was healthy healthier this is only as ivc filter but as a seven three guy who's had all these nagging injuries to the point where phil jackson had some interest in trading lease them much as we've made fun of fill it would perhaps through slowed prussian with that one if in fact was the injuries and instead of wanting to go sit next to a pond in montana with a punch money that inspired him to think about treating posing us uh but for the knicks amini others next year's kind of a waste phnom you don't know if they're going to get in the playoffs anyway their draft pick will be better this year but it's it's going to be a tough negotiation maybe maybe we'll we'll see danny is that the joel embiid contract could be like somewhat of of a touchstone for them although i still maintain that there really were not much in the way of protections for the sixers that were ever gonna wave and beat any way so i don't know if that's a great deal for the next so maybe they just they hold off and they still.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"So will do you think carmelo sabotage phil jackson undoubtedly the his no doubt i look forward to your point of view john i look forward to your rebuttal because i think you had the steep hill to climb wrote the definition of sabotage to deliberately destroy or damage something did carmelo deliberately destroy or damage something the answer is clearly yes what did he destroy fills vision of what the new york knicks should be maybe you think hey that to destroy 'able thing that should be destroyed that should be damage that should have been done away with doesn't change the fact carmelo sabotaged here's what he did specifically he took the triangle and continuously through the media and behind closed doors denigrated he hey the train we all know this from the beginning he showed his displeasure with the triangle publicly and then on the court he did everything he could to look carmelo doesn't play defense komo doesn't pass the ball these are things by the way that extend beyond his relationship with the triangle these extend to komos entire career carmelo's amazing player criminals an amazing score carmelo with the ball in his hands is something magical however carmelo should he them braced to triangle could have been even more john this is an offense that allowed michael jordan in kobe bryant to let's just say flourish carmelo could have been the jordan or kkob of this knicks he could have been the outlet at the end of the triangle the ice so when the triangle breaks down the guy with the ball in his hands in the last few seconds of the shot clock but he didn't play ball at way he ruined the triangle and that's not even the worst of the worst of this what cassi just talked about if the sabotaging he did behind the scenes because he hated the triangle and by extension fill so much.
"phil jackson" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd
"The knicks problems were there before phil jackson and they remain there and this roster is a mess joe kim noah untradeable awful contract porzingis doesn't like the owner either derek rose i guess you can get rid of him but he can't shoot oh yeah carmelo anthony doesn't want to leave but if you really want to be a player and start over he must phil jackson leaving dozen solve ninety percent of the new york knicks problems the lead story today chris paul is now houston rocket christine and i bolt last week didn't necessarily by end up all the trade rumor so i think it's fair to say i was surprised rumors the hen leaving and free agency that at that was maybe him posturing to try to get lesser that he wanted with the clippers and maybe that was true and then he realized it wasn't going to happen and got fed up and decided to leave yeah i was surprised when news came down i haven't seen at mostly mostly because then i said this yesterday i don't see how it's going to work with james harden those are two guys that like to have the ball in their hands so how is this going to work because that was an issue with the clippers people thought that chris was a bog and wooden pass how can work now is that because chris paul didn't trust blake griffin or de'andre jordan who twelve footer chris paul a very high a coup basketball player now is going to arguably the best shooter in the league ds chris paul now when he steps on the floor zinc all i trust my teammates maybe both players have matured and james realizes that he's gonna need some help and said it's chris you.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"No no no no not the warriors run elements of it as do the spurs as i said it can work there or part that you can run some triangle but you can't run all your personnel decisions through that as your basic offense knockbacks not gonna work it's too slow and it's en it's inefficient that's been empirically proven sal max i knew we got a little bit delay but i'm asking you a couple quick questions before i tell you all the ways that i think what you just said are completely hyperbolic lee insane number one with the knicks good before phil jackson got there actually yes fourthworst directly nineteen ninety nine part the worst record in the nba portland but but we're not talking about that and we're not talking about that entire time will you said before we got there right before he got fifty four wins and then thirty seven wins wrong direction but that's not seventeen wins and sal and will i agree goal in is the problem but you have to give him credit here before humaid made the problem worse than he picked up the option he's going to have to pay the money he's like okay let's not throw good money after bad we're going to kill this right now we're gonna stop phil jackson forgetting nothing for carmelo and further alienating porzingis and making us run his office we're going to stop it now yet as much as i agree dolan is the primary problem he got out of his own way here now.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"Essentially jim dolan steps in at the eleventh hour it says hold on time out you're just going to give away carmelo anthony even i am not that stupid and that saying something and stop phil jackson for getting nothing look carmelo probably has to go right you've got to work that out somehow put getting nothing for him so dolan should be criticised in fact four extending picking up fills option here's more money etcetera that wasn't good for letting phil destroy the franchise to the extent that he has go there were no great shakes even generally before phil got there but one thing i can say about dolan i will give him credit he does not allow the money to stop him the salary cap stops them but he won't allow the money to stop him he will spend money if it thing if he thinks even though we usually wrongheaded about this stuff that it will make the team better he said sia later phil jackson were not simply buying out carmelo anthony and the reporting now from bulge and ramona and others that they're looking at maasai jiri which i've been pushing for is music to my ears there is a totally competent excellent gm who made something at a denver as soon as he left they fell he goes to toronto built them up this is the guy knows what he's looking at is willing to put in the hard work the only question now is we'll toronto give them up just for cash or to the knicks have to include some kind of draft pick compensation which i'm sure they don't wanna do but the knicks are thinking right they're the ones fielding calls seeing who's interested in the job and they can figure out what to do next this happened in the nick of time phil jackson's arguably the greatest coach in the history of american team sports in the conversation.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"Well according to some didn't go well and that seems like for ever mogo expands excited for the opposite reason today is phil jackson out as president of the new york knicks as the team announced today that they have decided to part ways earlier we had stephen a smith go absolutely beserk with his thoughts on this and of course max kellerman also taking time from his vacation to join us on this monster story max first of all thanks for joining your show and your reaction to phil jackson out as the next president i mean i would say not a moment too soon but it's like four billion moments too soon but look as my league great brother said used to say the time to criticize the fat person is not when they get back from the gym with a sweaty wrist bands you know they just worked out in their sweating and good deal criticize them at that moment and jim dole in is that fat person i'm not going to criticise him at this moment because he acted in the nick so to speak of time justintime look porzingis wasn't traded thank god and before phil jackson could do yet another stupid thing i mean another idiotic arrogant thing dolan stepped in what was the eighty arctic stupid arrogant thing that phil jackson was going to do is going to buy out carmelo anthony by about little were carmelo could go play for cleveland or whoever he wanted.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"Over yours stephen a smith i will take my list now i'm not saying he was perfect and i'm not saying even did a great or a good job but i'm not going to see here today and act like he's the problem with the new york knicks that will lead you to the same place where you are today stephen a always it's fire but he was particularly fired up this morning there there's somebody else who who is also fired up in also coming off ak shen who's going to show up mats kellerman will join us and talk about his thoughts on phil jackson and the next party way that's after the break i by others not been broached on i will say this in this type of scenario we have to benefit us would absolutely have benefit us dwayne was a great pro last year uh and he he's been around a lot of different situation show he was in miami when they had a couple of rebuilding years as well so right now we're operating under the something that he'll be here but like i said if if that subject is ever broached by by them than it would have to be advantageous for us that was polls b team john paxson saying if weighed wants a buyouts can play elsewhere this season it will have to benefit the bulls us reminder he opted into a team at jimmy butler was on that there jellicoe i would do you think wage should do here i think way to go back to miami i think the idea last year when he was talking about respect what i keep hearing will install the and and stephen a talking about respect you can pay.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"I just can't get it i know what you're just waking up in tuning in first of all thank you and if you're a disgruntled expand wealth you're welcome because the big news this morning is that they'll jackson and the knicks have parted ways knicks made it official this morning and afternoon credible playing and coaching career the public opinion to fill certainly changed after taking his first frontoffice job in 2014 this was the job the lakers he got with the nixon now no longer has so will you have we seen the last of phil jackson in the nba we have seen the last of phil jackson as a decisionmaker as a person with a presence on an everyday basis in the nba but we haven't seen the last in one respect and tell you that his fingerprints will have a lasting imprint not just on the nba but in the new york knicks and in a positive way not in a negative way let me lay that out for you real quick john here's the thing we're not going to see him again in a front office because i think that the world is run by living's i think that people react things emotionally is funny everybody's listens to what i have to say on this phil jackson thing because it's so obvious to them because there's so much unanimous disagreement if you possibly disagree with that with you must be looking for some contrarian attentionseeking take no no no what i think is the the crowd you have found yourself in most the tom holding pitchforks is a sea of ignorance that's what i think and yeah granted i could run myself into an intellectual culdesac by just reacting to the mob but most of the time i'm going to be right and that mobs going to run the nba iran the new york knicks james dolan has abdicated all of thority of running one of the premier franchises in the nba not to phil jackson probably not even a much to carmelo anthony but to the man on the street to the protest to the social media outrage and guests were that will legion.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"I respect the hell out of john salley his position is the same as shack colby and j and others people who have won championships with phil jackson come to the save defense so i cast no was persians or that may is sitting in my chair for this week regardless of how much he's contaminating it would rhetoric i just don't want to hear right now here's the reality of the situation all of those things are true but what you're omitting is how it coincides with the statements he may when he got the job when phil jackson took over the job you'll know folks on inside so john salley you smile on your faith when i got to educate mumber will about how you feel with talk of behind dole is back laughing about the money that was weird throat it is directed because he didn't what the job to begin with that's a fact number one number two he took the job what did he say john optic where content arctic where play of tv we got what it takes you had an opportunity a high of steve kerr you did told to do everything but dolan stuck with steve kerr at four million dollars he didn't go up to five million until he got derek fisher a novice coach who's never i dunno devon derek ever coach kids let a little coach period okay but he got the job so you also you also make sure he got clemens that rambus and you're crew up indy then you get rid of derek fisher who with coaching 500 paul in his second see the by the way and what do you do rambus alike rambus could man i think he's knowledgeable about basketball saudis about the small when i say this will k because i'm dropping knowledge they can't stand curt rambus the players despise up they don't want any parts of him what does fill do coach eddie way and implored a triangle way ignore what their way listen to what i say wait was phil jackson do you go out you don't want horta sex.
"phil jackson" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"Karzai flavors blaming phil jackson era is coming to the rain i should say should say though jackson's coming finances life as well as i jimbo this finally come through sensors or somebody knock this sense senses in on and decided to say it's time to get religious guide stench phil jackson environment has gone finally it looks like and that you know with all that jerry you now set you if this is where the interesting part of all this comes the aftermath the the collateral damage the flack if you will from charlie rose and i'm sure he'll be right non ban rag about something how phil got screwed too uh they would have drafted the point guard out out of nc state had phil jackson been let go before the draft was this was the impetus of this carmelo's representations saying that he wanted to be bought out so he can then go to cleveland i mean you get did the the whole kinda like this this uman interest aspect of it is going to be really i think front and center now over the next three or four days maybe the rosen article two a part of this because the one thing we haven't discussed very much boban carmelo and fell is phil and porzingis and you know rosen wrote the article just last week that put out the plusses and minuses of the kid right exactly why would you do that i have no idea why would you why would you in some way and in this is craig's bugaboo about phil and basically what he has been lamenting over the last five to six weeks is why would you undercut the value of carmelo anthony he wasn't tradable right not tradeable by telling everybody that we have to investigate trade and.
"phil jackson" Discussed on First Take
"You don't want to do that at at the expense of the following season because while the celtics could potentially get by the cavs this year i think the following year it's a really good bet they're coming out of the east and i would i would want to do a two year plan here get jimmy butler yes while as locked in for the next two years he doesn't have an option until a third yeah okay and then and also if you can afford to get him in hayward under the cap you'd have to moves some pieces but if you can afford to do it fine but just keep in mind next year even with those two guys you might not get past the cavs the following year you're a good bet represent east in the final saw it's going to be exciting nba draft tonight at seven pm on espn let the chips fall where they may now samper file take max taken away you're going to fall off lynn there and i don't agree with that who the hell are you phil jackson and what have you done with phil jackson legend has it that phil jackson was a bench guy on great teams in his playing days but vase famous nix teammates willis reed bill bradley clyde frazier dave the butcher the guy who wound up selling a lot of books about how smart he was was phil jackson senator bill bradley you say piffle zenmaster phil jackson by the time he wants six chips in chicago and five in la he was a mystic who understood on a higher plane of consciousness that dominant players must sacrifice ego for the good of the team you got jordan to do it right me cobian shack work it outright sort of.
"phil jackson" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"I need to do something i need to do something else right i got here by do i ills let's go i'm smarter than everybody else yeah you're smarts your smarter than a lotta people and it made you a bill in dollars but only one of you gets to win in this forum pay and being smarter were noticed of really really matters so my point i don't want to see like i am not arrogant enough despite accusations thing to think that a lot of these owners are obviously a lot of these guys are brilliant but you can have a friend who's a really smart guy just not get sports a certain way and i believe there are a handful or more of owners in leagues that just have the chequebook and go lifelong dream owner team and now what the things can i do with it i want to know the percentage now you can't give it to me but light on my career yossi is deep for what percentage of owners are the phones because you're absolutely right i've met enough rich people in my life to understand moon so as an all based on merit however this happened progress in reference by the way i so what are you acid that but but but but that doesn't discount get ninni mini arms when i see for example the dan gilbert hatred or the phil jackson who is not an owner but phil jackson hatred write offs on the just stupid oh he's dumb is all get out fills incompetent care running team it just makes me wonder had managed you know a dozen people to eleven championships it's pretty good things in life pretty high accomplishments but guy on his couches decide fills of buffoon idiot incompetent and maybe gone the county's right by the way i don't know i look at the options is phil incompetent is he sabotaging is he genius as he really smart i just don't know that we know the story to put one of those labels on it so when i brought this up the beginning.