26 Burst results for "Phil Donahue"
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, do you have any recollection of me? And maybe my hosting skills or that lack thereof on that day? No, you're amazing. I don't know what you're talking about. You're an icon and I have loved you for so long. So I don't know exactly what you're getting. I'm not even fishing for compliments, but thank you. But okay, so let me explain. Let me paint the picture. So I went back to do a second talk show because, you know, I felt like I'd evolved and they came to me with wanting me to go back on the air and I made this decision with this specific company to do more of like a Phil Donahue type of show. I wanted my provocative, elevated content for you know, after making my documentaries, I wanted to focus more on real impactful, hopefully, and not meaningless, not a meaningless hour. Anyway, cut to, I get in bed with this company that assures me that's what they want to do too. We were not a good fit. I was miserable. And I started medicating on that job at the very end of the season when I knew the show was being canceled. I started using cannabis, which is not something other than I guess I use it in this podcast and this job. But I was not prone to using cannabis during the work hours. And it just got harder and harder at the end of this thing. And maybe I'm telling too long winded of a story of this, but I just remember having you on the show, someone I really admire and look up to and I wasn't even present. Like I couldn't even I feel like I was like on the couch with you. It was so awful. And I just, I just felt like she must have thought to yourself what a fucking quack. And anyway, so I apologize for being on professional in that moment.
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
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Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"A lot of my journey as it was unfolding in real time. Record against? Oh, you are. Oh my God, you're really gonna do this? I don't know. Writing this book has been a deeply personal exploration for me. And I'm grateful you're choosing to listen. It may sound a little different from the audiobooks you're used to hearing. I'll be reading the text, but you'll also hear passages from my audio journal entries and sounds from trips I took in the wilderness..
Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
"phil donahue" Discussed on Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
"Have their own space. I appreciate that. I will say that we ask one question every couple that we interview and i'm most interested to hear what you guys are going to say. Guys have filled this entire interview with some of the best advice. But if you were to look back on your forty one years of marriage and forty five years of knowing each other forty four years of knowing each other. What is the one one piece of advice. The best piece that you have either been given or would give about relationships warren. Oh gosh one. Piece of advice marl. You've given so many. I'm curious yeah. Well what do you think chiefs. Thanks for throwing the ball to me. I think you kick that can down the road. Don't make everything a solemn high mass you move beyond whatever is troubling you at the moment is not going to change the orbits of the stars or the earth. And you're going to move forward. You're going to feel a lot less emotional about this tomorrow right. Then you do tonight or today and i'm a lot of people told us enough. People said this that it even it stuck even in my brain and you are not going to change each other. You are not going to do that. And when we were first together. I would say the first twenty years of our marriage. We fought every time. We traveled. Because i take way too much luggage and i will admit it. I take too much luggage. But i can't help it. I simply cannot decide when we're leaving. I i know. I need six shoes. I don't know why. But i gotta have this favor this that mr like fun and sexy this same this for cobblestones his parachute by water in got all these shoes and he would fight with main carry on the whole time in the car on the way to the airport he would be saying that the driver us realize that this we're going away for like ten days. We have six suitcases and the tips. I mean we got on the plane. I was out of the baggage guy who could care less if the baggage guy. Do you believe all these bags of going away for ten days and he did it did it. And he did it and he would make himself miserable and then i was miserable the whole day way on the plane and then one day sometime twenty years ago. I don't even remember. He stopped doing that. He's finally said. What did you say you told me you said what you said. I know this is crazy. I can't get her sound. Yeah i knew that. I was not going to change. I this thing. That was making me crazy. So i kick. That can down the road. I i finally moved on to worry about something else. And i think that is probably the best advice. You are not going to change each other so accommodate it. I mean unless it hurts. You was it's hurting you. You know a let it go and what's your name. Viola davis said she said your marriage doesn't start when you walk down the out your marriage starts when you're sitting across your spouse at breakfast and he does this thing that you really can't stand and you have. I am not going to be able to live with this and then you say to yourself. Hey i'm going to have to live with this. This is who he is. I love him. I'm gonna have to take this into and that's the truth is otherwise it's just a fight all the time because he is not you you are not him and it's never gonna switch where he is you in your and it never gonna switch. I think that's the best advice i love that. That's gold. fill a professional question for you. How do you compare podcasting to your your talk show. Do you enjoy it well. This is easier. Because i'm with herself here. I mean i. You know when you're alone you've gotta you know and you're juggling. You gotta catch all the ball so this is a lot easier. Because i'm with miss. Chatty cathy here you'll.
Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
"phil donahue" Discussed on Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
"Why we love it. Let's get back to it. I feel like we could listen. You guys all day and just like pick your brains experience and relationships but in raising a family together in having you know you're beautiful kids what is what is the one thing you take away from your relationship that you want your children to know Let's see i. I guess that we we have faith that the other person is on our side has our back. I know that 'til has my back. He is not out to get me or hurt me in any way. You know i as i said. I'm a very talkative person as you can tell you'll have to fight to get a word but Sometimes we'll be out at a party. And i'll come home and i'll say oh god. Why did i say that to sean. She she really was looked so upset. When i said that i shouldn't have said them. I got an philosophically. Oto be crazy. You is the most interesting person at the party. Everybody loved that was killed that you said that he doesn't let me spiral down you know and that's important. That's important that somebody you know wants you to be okay. And i i him for that i. I have faith in that. I hit four sons living with me when marlo came into my life. And i was. I was scared to death. I don't know what to do with him and You know when. I would go off on the kids. They called it a spans tuesdays. And i remember walking past michael. Yeah michael on the phone with this guy buddy have to call you back. My dad's having a span. And then what did they tell you. Michael michael said to me. We like it when you around. Dad has less fasces when you're here too. That is a great car. And i know you guys have to be thinking forty one years now. What can we learn from these people so that you know we have that and i think that you know love and listening and lust. You know those are the big things in your life and knowing that you know you're not going to lie to each other you tell each other the truth about you can trust the other person's gonna be gonna give them the best part of themselves you know if all he has in his mind is to make you happy and if all you're trying to do is make him happy then you'll both be happy but if all you want to do is make yourself happy. He won't be happy and it's just you know and also accommodation is a big thing. We learned we didn't know the name of that. But we learned on the road talking to these people and judah viewer to the wonderful writer. She said she been married. Sixty years she said. No matter how hard you try he is never gonna be you and you are never going to be him. So that's a given now. Try to figure out. How do you allow him to be. Who is without having it aggravate you. And how does he let you be. Who you are or the aggravating. And we're very different. I'm this impulsive person. And he's as president who takes an extremely long time to come to the decision of what it is we're going to do. I'm worth to fill. That's right and that one. Yeah and that's a fight for us. You know i'll say come on let's move. Let's do it well below okay. So we've had to do live in that thing and many times he'll say to me. I think i think you're right. We move fast on that. And i'll say to him you arrive. It's a good thing we didn't do that so we we've learned to listen and see. Is he right about is is it. It'd be better to wait. He has to say to him. So should we move on. So we're listening without competing without wanting to be right at. Its worst patty smyth said you wanna be right. You want to be happy and it has let you wanna be. You'll stop being such a little. Prig about what you want and try to figure out you know. She does have a good idea here he.
Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
"phil donahue" Discussed on Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew
"Could i ask. Billy graham if he ever thought of divorce Divorce never murder. What's up everybody. Welcome back to couple. Worst john and andrew podcast all about couples and the things they go through. We have been through a lot speaking of that. I just a little bit. Yeah this is our first live intro that we've recorded since having her second child. Yes we forget how to do this. Yeah just blame the kid. We have content all about that whole journey coming soon. But by the way how. Good the sean. Look right now. You look a+ haven't showered yet for less than Teeth today today or since the baby you haven't shown today gotcha. Well what a treat we have with us today. Yes i love this interview. We have marlow and phil donahue right. Marlo thomas and phil donahue are married and this is probably d- they are the biggest celebrities. I would say we've had on the show today. We've had a lot of kind of like young. Famous people. As you will find a lot of really insightful professors and other kind of academia world people but marlo thomas and phil donahue are legends phil donahue hosted the phil donahue show for years he won twenty emmy awards and marlo. Thomas wasn't actress whose father founded saint jude's children's hospital and she is the national outreach director of so between them they are just like hollywood elite and i was so pleasantly surprised by our conversation because they're passionate about marriage as well and so much wisdom so many funny stories. I felt like we're to talk to them for four hours but got cut off out an hour which was probably better. Actually we did. The conversation was longer than an hour. We got to chat and pretty good. But phil was hilarious. Marla was insightful. And the reason we were able to do this interview is because they recently came out with a book called what makes a marriage lasts where they sit down with a handful of couples including ex-presidents and many people you would be familiar with To talk about how. They've made marriage work so if fell right in line with Our shows about and we're excited to share the wisdom that they have and also that they found through these interviews. Coolest thing about this book. Is they talk about how it was. All this research data was collected before the pandemics. They got to travel all over the world and actually have dinner with all of these couples in just pick their brains about the relationships and why it has worked for them. So we will link information on the show down below if you want to check it out We recommend it. It's good and it's a it's a good thing to have lying around you know doesn't need more marriage positive stuff but i will say shut up. Mom she was so pumped they to interview marlow is freaking out as well as yours. Yes this is a big deal so anyway. Thank you tomorrow. On phil for taking the time and i hope you guys enjoy this interview with marlo thomas and phil donahue. Let's get to it. Well marlow fill. It is a true pleasure to have you with us today. I know that. I know that you guys have done your fair share of talk shows. But i'm curious where your excitement and maybe nervous nervousness level lies in joining us today on a couple things very.
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"But everyone's while i hit a wall and hit a place where i just need somebody get an eighth. Get me up over that wall. And she's always a person. Always that person i. It's it's it's every time i mean. Do you tell her though. Yeah you can fight it or she just notice. Say say. I'm just i'm just i haven't got it I i feel feel. I get beyond this. And then she'll say you will dates you feel this moment but but you'll feel different tomorrow and it'll be different to the facts and needs things will show up in in and it'll change in does and but but but i never. I never. I never had to do that. We don't look for trouble. we don't we. Don't pick scabs. we don't we don't go. I think some marriages people will get the reporter and say they just can't help it. Go after that mobility export something. We don't do that. I think i'm similar to you in that. It took a while for me to feel comfortable talking about sort of bigger issues. But what's what's interesting about. It is that it's easier. It's easy for me to hear that to to you. Know if michael's coming to me with things that are difficult from to share and matt's for kind of gives me the confidence and the assurance that it's okay to share as well as it is to receive so if you had to say what's made made your marriage last i would say just keep your sense of humor. It's everything they're laughing and laugh at each other's jokes it's the key so like I was working in a book out. Called always looking after. It was about optimism and And what really bothered. I missed deadline after deadline. Today line. that was just were bogged down and tracy said with matter. And i said i'm fucking booth and she said we knew your you said i said you can't because he's never gonna finish my book about optimism. Not with that attitude. Thirty years this is. Hopefully this is your best friend in the world in just like the first person i think when you think of anything i was tracy tracy tracy endless. It's that's michael j. fox and tracy pollen. I'm sorry i wasn't there. After i left began to walk home. It took my surprise that i started to cry. What had been witnessed to was the grace of two people whose lives are braided together with love commitment and steal. It filled my heart. This is marriage versus marriage and after our many double date. Only some of which we've shared this season our biggest lesson turned out to be this. There is no one secret to a lasting marriage. now there are billion secrets. So keep listening for them. And we'll be listening to. I'm phil donahue. I'm marlo thomas.
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
An Interview With Michael J. Fox and Tracy Pollan
"Started by asking them about their dating before they met. I know you dated a lot of interesting people in new data a lot. I really good about you. You had a lot of handsome beautiful people in your lives but you you clicked. So how did you know this was. The right person. lives interesting. the you know when you're young you go out with a lot of people but you kind of know instantly. Listen person so so you and the back of your mind new thinking this. How do i get out of it and and and then you meet someone in the This i don't ever get out of this and then there's a leap buffet at that point because you're so young. When i first met her shoes theater actors from new york. And i was just like prince of hollywood idiot clown and in such dignity about her in a in consideration of what was women. I didn't consider anything. I'm just gonna jump into situations in took over and in any decided. Wow who poise. That's what she has boys when you walk down the aisle. You're pretty sure that this was the right one. Was there anything one little thing that you were quite sure about that. You had to like figure out right. I do know that i was. You know i'd been in so many broadway shows and done so many things like that. And i never had as much stagefright as i had right before i walked down the aisle. I thought it was going to pass out. I was so so nervous. And i just realized this is a really big deal. I'm ready for this. I just think that general feeling of like what have i gotten myself into and then i started to walk in at all fell away and i and how will we them. Twenty
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"They've been together for more than three decades. Which is no small feat in hollywood so we wanted to know some of their biggest challenges as a couple i would say you know certain issues with the kids. I mean that you know we have different ways of going about it and we would try to. We're on the same page a lot of times but a lot of times we have different approaches and that can be a source of you know discipline approaches discipline and yeah those kind of things. I'll give you the perfect example like the grandfather boys a little. They were like. Oh four and six before. Dora was boring. I said we really need to make you know. Teach them how to make a bed and our oldest son j goes daddy. You don't make your bed and rob went. He's right that's it. That was the discipline history of this house. All right the kids complain that there's there aren't enough boundaries and they weren't disciplined enough and that's something that i got from my parents. My parents didn't discipline me either. But maybe you know. I didn't act out whatever. I don't know what it was. But i never got disciplined really know and so you just don't understand how why it. No you got your kids. You love your kids and you know. Hopefully they do the right thing. You are you. Are you boy slobs. No not really. My husband is a slush. it's still to this day. Oh yeah to this day. The towel doesn't get picked up off the floor. I'm better than i mean i was. I'm pretty neat. But she said she said to me put the tau back folded back and put it on the thing. So i do that right. I mean the little things. I guess parents would come into the house. Never say hello. Never say goodbye. I had to say hello and goodbye..
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"Hi i'm phil donahue and marlo thomas and we're going on a series of double dates to find out what makes a marriage last some couples. You feel like you should just sit around the table with forever. Case in point rob and michelle. Reiner interesting smart and very very funny. We visited robin michelle up their stunning new england. Type home in brentwood california with. They've lived for close to thirty years before them. It was owned by norman. Lear who series all in the family was rob's first real acting vehicle and before that henry fonda lived there is beautiful rose garden still flowers there each year. Rob's whole life is so steeped in classic. Hollywood it would have been impossible for me not to ask about his famous father. Carl and his mom mastel here folks were married for a long time. Yes almost sixty five years. Oh my gosh yeah. That has to have an influence on well. Yeah i mean my mother said and this was when they had their sixtieth anniversary and they asked her what the secret was the she said. Find someone who can stand you up not somebody you can put up with somebody who can put up with you..
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"I want women to be the very best people. Women are so necessary for men. And that's why women were created last so that all of the finest ingredients. That may have missed when you were being composed purpose for the lord. Thought about not stop rest. It said when he looked at man a. I need a little help. And he's going to need some help and god sat down and thought about it and created this second draft. I'm amara that was twenty years ago. I would not do that my wife. I really didn't take me i. I'd be loss. I couldn't survive. That's the reverend jesse jackson and jacqueline jackson. It's amazing their hard work for justice and their long partnership at been part of american history. They certainly have. And i've got to say it was fun to be back in chicago again. Yup just like the old days. Until next time. I'm phil donahue and marlo thomas have really thank you and it was. Delightful was terrific. Double date is a production of pushkin industries. The show was created by us and produced by sarah lilly. Michael bahari is associate producer. Musical adaptations of it had to be you. Buy sell wagon symphony marlow. And i are -secutive producers along with me alot bell. An lethal mola from pushkin special things to jacob weisberg malcolm glad will heather fain josh. Nour's carly bigly ori- eric sandler. Emily rustic jason gambrill. Paul williams and.
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
On a Date With Reverend Jesse and Jacqueline Jackson
"It was a bitter cold november morning. When we got to the airport we were heading out to chicago. My old stomping grounds to visit reverend. Jesse jackson and jacqueline jackson not only are these two civil rights icons his work with martin luther king her lifelong activism. But they've been married throughout all yearly sixty years. I was really looking forward to it only problem. Our flight from new york was severely delayed and we were five hours late for our date. It was awful. I really hate being late for anything but even though it was already evening by the time we landed. They said come on over anyway. I've known them for decades and that's the kind of generous people. They are The children well. They all still talk to me. That's a good side. Jesse was diagnosed with parkinson's disease several years ago but despite his condition his spirits were lively and jackie. She's always full of life. As we settled in jesse began to recall their early days in college. She was a into modern dance and she had been librar- and beautiful begun. Measure parents versus freaked on her bills. A-plus all the time though the pluses so you beginning you say wait. What would values you share. The foundation was marriages. Don't last long as they have. No the norwich told free. Russa's deep is larussa foundation when the wind blows can't take it as i see what roles without roots. It cannot grow right over. How lucky you were to find. Jackie i mean other women would have run out the door because you were never home. I love you. I was lucky. I told him because he was going and going and going and then he wouldn't inform me. I went to him. And i said reverend. You're supposed to make me abbey. And i was. I mean because i really felt a man is supposed to make you happy. That's his
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
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Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"This is a relationship that can endure and with that nugget. It was time for brian to get going for his stage performance. That night it was incredible with the performance to give and the clock ticking. They didn't russia's they gave it the wrong. I love them for that. They were fun to be with and met you guys up anytime imagining robert guy. Until next time. I'm phil donahue marlo. Thomas you guys. Double date is production of pushkin industries. The show was created by us and produced by sarah lilly. Michael bahari is associate producer. Musical adaptations of it had to be you by stellwagen symphony marlow and i are executive producers along with me alot bell and lethal mola from pushkin special. Thanks to jacob weisberg malcolm glad well heather fain josh. Nour's carly mcclary. Eric sandler emily rust at jason gambrill. Paul williams and bruce kluger. If you like our show please remember to share rate and review. Thanks for listening. Have you ever wished there was a hiring superhero. Who could make finding great candidates easy. That's why ziprecruiter is like minus the flowing cape only instead of fighting crime like other superheroes ziprecruiter fights time by helping you find qualified candidates fast. How fast well. four out of five employers. Who post on ziprecruiter get a quality candidate. Within the first day bats because ziprecruiter's matching technology identifies people with the right experience for your job and invites them to apply ready to conquer hiring. Make sure you go to ziprecruiter. Dot com slash. Dd that's ziprecruiter. Dot com slash. D d. i don't know about you but honey nut. Cheerios are a staple in my house. They always have been. I remember reading the back of the honey nut. Cheerios box doing crosswords. And the like so the not only fun but they're also nutritious. Honey nut cheerios. I made with whole grain oats and a touch of real golden honey and can help lower. Cholesterol is part of a heart. Healthy diet learn more about honey. Nut cheerios by picking up a box. Wherever you shop for cereal..
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
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While i'll bet i think i really would have resented having two kids when he would be gone like six months or go off into a movie or right and and how did you get through that well as a progressive enlightened male i said well i think it's fair that you should have two votes and i'll have one vote so because of the tautological tissue out for so i said i said well maybe when taylor is one years old i'll bring it up when she's two years old are bringing up and after that i won't bring it up but we know okay but we did go to therapy for that and i learned something really interesting about you at at that is i had yes. We're getting deep into him wanting more children. So much and me being fine with not the therapist as brian. Why do you think this is so important in you. Had this epiphany of 'cause. I only think of a family as my siblings because his parents were so fractured that us only having one was not a family. I really relied on my brother. Who's two years older than me. During the fracture of the family he was like it was running defense and blocking for me and figuring things out together and we're very very close for a long long time. I thought boy. I really needed my brother. Are little sister needed us to at times to take care of her to babysit when mom was drinking too much. Or whatever you know. So that's what i kept thinking. It's not for me. It's for taylor. I thought it's better for to simply. I don't disagree with you. I think that that's what do you think it's not too late. Baby sure big deal. That's that's amazing. Having a change your marriage a lot by having a baby by oh yeah well. Because i did have a one is forty because i did have major complications. It took me a year to even feel quasi-normal again just wrecked me. It just totally wrecked me. And that was part of a to i. Just don't wanna go through that again. It was just deprived. You of the joy of motherhood didn't for a while. I mean not from to nothing on from two years old on that first year it was really really hard was really hard but brian is home. Then he wasn't gonna wasn't going through. Oh yeah and it's like we'll just do this. We'll just get through this. That's who he is that in everything he's like that there was another point. His grandmother was in dementia in a home and she had to go to the bathroom and he said i'll help you. And she said owner and okay. She wasn't really sure who he was and she said. Oh no no. I'd be too 'cause oh grandma don't you know i'm a doctor. Now she went. Okay so good. And how was it about about robin. That made you think part of it was just the the the person that she is that she still has a joyous appreciation for simple things for just life a good positive outlook. She wasn't cynical or sarcastic yet. She was funny. She was beautiful. Still is and the character of a person is what you should hit your wagons to. What are the choices you make when times are tough. Is there an example. Well it's interesting because one of our first fights was when she had this boyfriend and we were now getting together and she hadn't officially told the boyfriend that didn't live in los angeles that this was not going to go any further. And i thought you know this. I'm sensing something sensing something here. I tell them. I lost my voice. I physically lost my voice. Tone is such a psychological while it was like i got laryngitis so to speak i guess so. Did you believe it well. I was having a difficult time and rightfully rightfully. So yes. thank you for. I was in the right on here completely but they were asking. What is it about me that you love so thanking big mistake. Just doing better. You're probably right. What would you pass on to a young couple. Who's about to be married that you've learned being able to laugh. It's really important to me. And then the other thing is just say. Sometimes i'm your best friend. I've got your back. Don't forget that And i think if you can both remember that what about you. Mr. you have to know that you fall in love before you attempt this now. it's sounds overly simplistic because well of course we'll but really being love and take the time to really desire that person to miss that person sometimes separation is not necessarily a bad thing and to find out how you truly feel at your core if.
Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"Dates to find out what makes a marriage last. What a crazy afternoon in new york. The day we met bryan cranston and robin dearden. Oh god i remember. Brian was starring in the hit. Broadway production of network and the kurt was going up in just a few hours. So we had a very narrow window of time to visit with them at their apartment or men are cabdriver. Took us to the wrong address and it was rush hour. We were almost a full hour late. It was just the worst no time to kind of warm up to each other wonderfully into the wrong that yes and no idiot lately from discombobulated never late especially. You were rattled but brian was so relaxed. Nifty as curtain. Yeah that's ahead. Once we got our act together we dove in by talking about their parents marriages. All seven of my parents marriages were wonderful. My my mom was married four times. My dad was married three times. They had numerous boyfriends and girlfriends. And yeah so in many ways. My parents taught me what not to do. This kind of lazy attitude into marriage didn't work wherever you from from. La born and raised out there. And so you kind of against marriage no. I was married once before. When i was twenty three and then i got married again when i was thirty five. I think i was thirty. Five thirty three so ten years after my trial so it didn't scare you off marriage in fact that there were all those marriages no no. Because the woman that i married wasn't a bad person. She was a lovely person. It just it just was the wrong time. And i wasn't in love with her. And i i think i took a very casual look at it. It wasn't fair to her. Wasn't fair to me. Fortunately we didn't have any children and she went her separate way and remarried and has a life and the life she wanted. Let you and what about your family. I came from the complete opposite of his. I had leave it to beaver. I was raised in whittier. Little tiny town nixon's hometown. I'm a native californian too. I never wanted to get married. It wasn't a high on my list and my parents never instilled in me. The need to be married. We grew up in mostly are formative years in the seventies and the the sexual revolution in the sixties busted open and the seventies sort of celebrated that kind of looseness and you got waylaid and off track. I think a lot by fun. Yeah by fun and by freedom and convincing yourself that you may be in love with someone when you're really not and you may not have that much in common with them and now you're in so deep you like. Oh how do i extract myself. I got married very and then afterward. I realized oh i've made a mistake and i realized then find do this again. I really have to know what i'm doing and be in love so then you met on a set right. We met on a on a really terrible television show called air wolf which starred a helicopter and and i was a bad guy of the week on this episode. She was the victim of the week. I kidnapped her and held her for ransom and other women say how sexy you had a gun on her threatened to kill her or dater. We met on air wolf. We didn't start dating that. It was a year later that we ran into each other in improv comedy class and and got to know each other and got to be friends. But i think we were. We were lucky we were guided to this the year. The at the time that we met we had a girlfriend to. She had a boyfriend so we were able to just not have the tension. I should make a move and ask her out and were able to just a fun and flirt. And and that's nice and we just kind of slowed into it as opposed to over extending yourself physically making that commitment and then having to backtrack to figure out who this person is who you just have relations with. That is so new. Are we fool ourselves. And we'd go. Oh my god. I'm doing this again. And then i went to oxford for a summer and he came over and he stopped at oxford and and i went. Oh it's you. And i've never felt that way my life. If you mean. I can't explain it except that it was just this reaction to oh i do. I do wanna get married and i wanna marry you. That's so you knew that. I knew pretty fast and i had never felt that way before. And you were you thinking that she could be the one. Yeah i was. I was very keen on this. We had the most romantic date in at stratford-upon-avon rented a punt. And we were. We had sandwiches beautiful day. Wine found a little shady place under a tree in the water. We kissed like bandits. How lovely how great. Your proposal received a lot of that. Is that best in london that he owned a cabin with a friend of his to actors. They bought a cabin up in big bear. It was hilarious because the bafta was a standard sized bathtub in a crappy cabin in the mountains so there wasn't any room for me to face him facing the spout back was against his chest. Yes so i kept thinking. I designed it this way because i thought that if i was to face her and trying to get these leads out i would cry. I would crack. I'd i really did so. I thought man. Am i going to do this. How am i gonna do i. Champagne little music going. And i'm going. What the hell. And every time. I start to talk that she starts to turn around to look and i pushed her face back toward the front so that i could let me just get this out. Was that a surprise. At that moment. It wasn't surprised because it was like. I know where this is going. Kind of now. The other thing was the ring. Yeah we're nude as one is right. Where would i put the ring. So i think you'll see it. There's if i put no down the drain. And i i don't i put it on my baby toe. I put it all the way on my and submerged the foot at segue so.
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"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
"So britney spears had her testimony at her conservative ship hearing yesterday and it was one of those moments you truly just stop and say oh my god what am i even hearing. Yeah miss. This is britney spears. we're talking about the girls. So many of us grew up with her. Songs are still part of soundtracks of our lives. I know every and we travel and make play list. We have britney spears on the as always And yesterday she was the voice on a conference. Call basically begging a judge for help. The main reason i'm here is because i want the conservatives ship without having to be evaluated yes so to get out of her conservative ship. Basically brittany would need to successfully pass a mental health or medical evaluation and brittany believes. She's done enough and shouldn't have to do that. Yeah so this conservative ship has been in place since two thousand eight and as we talked about yesterday it started in late. Two thousand seven one britney's life seemed to be spinning publicly out of control And back then so. The california courts approved a petition. That said her dad. Jamie spears could be co conservator of her life and that meant he was put in charge of everything and when we say everything. We mean literally everything. We're talking money. Her career her personal life and back then britney did acknowledge a move that saved her career but that was thirteen years ago and understandably brittany has had enough lied and told the whole world. I'm okay and i'm happy. It's a lie. I thought i just. Maybe i said that enough. Maybe i might become happy. Because i've been in denial. I've been in shock. I am traumatized you know. Fake it till you make it. But now i'm telling you the truth okay. I'm not happy. I can't sleep. I'm so angry. it's insane yet. brittany were also angry. It's insane so we are with you on that sure. God i can't imagine. I i mean for years. We've been hearing from her. Dad's attorneys all brittany needs to do is petition the courts to get out of this conservative ship. Ma'am i didn't know i could petition the conservative shift to ended. I'm sorry for my ignorance. But i honestly didn't know that but honestly i don't think i owe anyone to be evaluated. I've done more than enough. Yeah i mean. The fact that she didn't know feels like a lot to me so her her lawyer. Sam ingham is court appointed. She's never been able to choose her lawyer and she's been trying to for years she's been trying to have the right to choose her own lawyer. Meanwhile her dad has all these fancy expensive lawyers. That britney is paying for rice. Oh is salmon. Gum like not telling her things he should be telling her. It's really making me question him while it's one of those things where it's like. She said that she has said she doesn't want this so presumably. She said it to her lawyer. At one point at which point the would say. Hey if you don't want it we just gotta do this petition right. So why didn't that conversation happen exactly. What's very clear from. Yesterday is just how crazy. This setup really is for britney and i'm not at all surprised. She sounded so upset and her testimony. She literally has no control over her own life. I shouldn't be in a conservative. Should if i can work in provide money in work for myself and pay other people it makes no sense. The laws need to change. What state allows people to own another person's money in account and threatened them in saying. You can't spend your money unless you do what we want you to do when she said this about like she's obviously Okay to work. She shouldn't be in a conservative. I was so proud of her. Like just hear her. Like stand up for herself with so amazing to me a looked it and i know that a lot of people are like it's crazy about the money and how she's paying for all this to happen which is absolutely ridiculous but there were some even more surprising bombshells to me things that i did. Not even i mean these are things you're hearing from somebody who is a pop star and educated and has a lot of money in. It's like she's living lake. She's just this prisoner had a ide- inside of myself right now. So i don't get pregnant. I wanted to take the id out. So i could start trying to have another baby but the so called team. Let me go to the doctor to take it out because they they don't want me to have children anymore. Children so basically this conservatives ship is doing me way more harm than good one more time just for those people way way in the bath. Stop telling women what to do with their bodies were done. I mean this is just truly unimaginable to me like yes. She wants to get married. She wants to have kids and the conservative ship is saying nope you can't do that. We're going to force you to have an iud. Which i'm sorry. Iud's can be extremely painful to put in and to take out and to not be able to consent to that. I mean what kind of handmaid's tale life is this seriously to hear her actual voice. Yeah no that s. She's still in there and she's trying and she's fighting. Maybe emotional honestly yes. She's definitely not that softspoken southern girl. We all remember. No she's she's a grown woman and she's angry and she's done with it. Yeah and had every right to be. I mean you could hear it in her voice. She was clearly nervous but she knew what she had to say and she said it. Yeah it's like one of those things where like a kid comes home from school and they have so much to tell them about the day and they're like and this happened in this and you're hell she had so much to say finally someone who's gonna listen and she got it out and it's i'm glad she did. 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"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
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"phil donahue" Discussed on Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue
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How Judges Judy & Jerry Sheindlin's Love Began
"How old were you when you first fell in love with minus thirty two three two. What was it that you glommed onto. Right away had shiny shoes. I saw him in a bar. And i looked at him and he just finished successfully trying a murder case says defense attorney and it was in the newspaper so mike pearl from the new york post. Who's the crime. Reporter was interviewing me and she came walking into the bar. Seeing me surrounded by these lawyers one of whom was our boss and came right up to me in the middle of the interview. Put her finger in my face and said and who is this. The middle of the plighted. I thought he was able to make an impression which he did. And i said lady please get your finger out of my face middle of an interview and she did and we went out for dinner that night and we saw each other every single night thereafter. So that's how to get to you. I'm telling you put your finger on my easy. I actually had to drag him to the older i did. He really had no intention of getting married. He had no intention of divorcing. He and his former wife was separated floor about three or four years but he had no intention of divorcing was a very good thing he could he could get laid he could say. I can't get serious. i'm married. I said after a year. I want to see the divorce in the paper or don't call me anymore.
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Double Date With Ted Danson & Mary Steenburgen
"We flew out to santa monica to visit. Ted danson and mary steenburgen. Their house is carved into the side of a hill. It's a craftsman style. Bungalow built in nineteen twenty two and it has what is called a living roof which is covered with greenery to fight off climate change. Ten mary decorated themselves is very relax and homey mostly. It was their warm connection to each other. That grabbed her attention from the start. This is fun. Yeah we've been so excited. We're really that you asked us. Well you came to mind immediately. Really people are always asking us. How did you. How are you married too long. And what i like in likes me. He's cute boys smells and that's a big deal so smell good. Ted likes to play the rascal but once we settled at their farm style kitchen table and began to talk. He was so honest and vulnerable rule of four of us here. I'm the only one who's only married once. Yes i'm the third. i'm being married. Well that maybe that's an interesting way to start because you're a wild optimist or you're total. Denial i mean. I got married and college carnegie Halfway through and i think it's fair to say the real communication would have been I'm afraid to go to new york by myself. Are you oh well. Let's go Sharon apartment and buddies that would have been kind of the emotional truth but somehow we ended up getting married and twenty two and Married for five years good friends but certainly not you know a a marriage
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Double Date with Ray & Anna Romano
"Our day in los angeles with ray and anna romano involved a little more staging than we were used to. That asked us to meet at a hotel near their home. So we got there a few hours early and rather than sit in noisy lobby. We booked a room ordered room service and then proceeded to rearrange furniture until the setting was just right. Once they arrived we all rated the minibar and everyone eight m. and m.'s while marlowe struggled with the recording equipment has to go. I can't believe you're doing it all but then when you press this button does it light. Because it's supposed to see here but you sorted out like chant. Yes okay well. that's funny. Analogy we finally settle down to talk well. First of all you guys met went how we worked together at a bank or a burke we were we were really young. Spank tiller us. I think i started when i was eighteen. He wasn't there yet. I started working there when i was twenty five. I lived at home. I twenty nine. Wow yeah so. I drove my bike to work. I was pretty much like not the the do start guy working at the bank. We know when he started there. There was a bunch of young girls. We all work there. And we're like oh there's a young guy starting here you know whatever. And then he stroked by late by the way always tend to sit back down about two years and i left after two years right and then i asked her out after i had left the bank. Yeah that's why. I wasn't working anymore. But little footnote. She was the third bureau xed out at the bank. The first he said
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Neil Patrick Harris And David Burtka Talk About Their Relationship
"How old is the house. Nineteen zero five. Wow i it's been everything from a speakeasy for mill workers to a music school for girls to a single person occupancy and when you think it was a brothel is just wishful began to wonder where in this five storey house. Would we have our talks. Who's the decorator. David has better taste than i do. So if we ever have disagreements about Interiors it usually comes from a financial standpoint in that. I tend to say dude. We have dogs and two small children. We don't need a forty billion dollar rug. So you're the sort of decorator in your the accountant. Then they led me into their red velvet screening room with rows of quickly theater seats. Just like an old hollywood. What a fitting place to chat with these two actors. What kind of marriages did your parents have. My parents were together until my mom passed away years ago. And your parents. My parents are still married. And they've celebrated fifty plus years of marriage so they've always been only together with each other so because you were gay. Did you think you wouldn't have that. I thought that i was going to be alone or single for most of my adult life. But i had a random path from adolescence into adulthood because i ended up being on a television show when i was fifteen years old and so all pre puberty through puberty. When you're figuring out what turns you on i was. I felt a bit under a microscope of television. And so i didn't have the freedom to randomly hit on somebody or go to a bar. So i i was by myself a lot and had a fantastic group of friends in los angeles. Who knew everything about me. But i just i just wasn't dating. I had never even showered with another person till i was in my late twenties so it was all new to me. And what about you. Deeming i you know. I didn't know what i wanted to. Until sort of i got into college and then after college living in new york i you know i saw lots of different relationships than men having babies and having a family so i i always knew that i was going to settle down and be with someone and stay with someone and have a family and kids. Once we started dating. We never really stopped so we didn't date lots of people while we were dating each other and then decide. We just started dating moved in together. And we've been together ever since same. Sex marriage wasn't legal at that time and and it seemed like a potential but not an inevitability and so we were more conscientious of what wording we used to call each other. I just didn't like the word partner for some reason i just. I still think that's a very strange way to it. Eliminates any sense of lava lover of or some only rome antic lake invasive of your life lover eighties and boyfriends very juvenile was forty calling. Fill my boyfriend and to seems like it's short lived like we've just met together for years. So is it better half and then and then once the marriage thing happened it happened very quickly but we didn't want to get married because it was suddenly allowed to get married. We wanted to get married to get because we wanted to get jeweler already in a committed relationship correct and that was and did you get kids. I just didn't want to go to the courthouse. With a with a hundred other people and people holding up signs and other people picketing and refers i. It's an. I don't want to get married in context owning remember with my family right in italy when it's legal and it's not a big deal. The nice thing about destination wedding as you can easily reduce the number of people. You've been very small weddings. Only forty seven people. We've got married with thirty five and it wasn't a great wonderful. The nice thing about talion wedding or a any italian trip is that everything is so delicious there. Yeah and what we're was testing this rueda. Yeah the mountains in a one of the things that i've noticed because we've been married forty years. Do you count from the day that you started dating or from your barrier wedding. We're counting from the day we got married. We met three years before but we knew immediately. I mean we. We fell them up. We went we went to dinner. We went to bed. That was it was it. That's because we're gay. We count from the day a reverse day because then you add ten years dog enga- years fifty years. We've been together.
Dr. Drew Podcast
Maurice Bernard
"Everybody wants to to your podcast. Keep supporting us and supporting the wind that blows the sales. The Corolla Pirate ship onward. Appreciate it very much, also. She Got Dr. do dot com the strings. We're doing there. We're trying to date on all. That's going on. With the. Situation and as well get after. Today, it is my privilege to welcome back to the program Marie Bernard Maurice Is it your numerous race? Nothing general about it. As I nothing about it I love and lithium. Save me on and off. General hospitals are released just recently. You Follow Maurice. Act Maurice Benard the an the also. Maurice, Benard TV were of course. If you remember, he was Sonny Corinthos on ABC. General Hospital since nineteen ninety-three and He's been a friend of this and work for a long time. I welcome back Bernard. Let led to be. Gut Bernardi my head because I I spoke to Anthony Hopkins the other night. Just I just A. It's a long story, but whenever I hear his voice I just think about him sitting down going okay Benard okay, but. Not In your in my not come out of my mouth. While most people say Bernard. Yes, I know, and that's actually I think what the guy's name is Bernard Anthony Hopkins says it's been on. So what's going on about? the book I kind of. Like. One flew over the coup. CUCKOO's nest meets Cinderella. And that's kind of what the whole I mean, but there's a lot of mental health in the book. An incredible love story. With Paula for over thirty years. And kids in animals in the whole thing. Are you still were. Murphy bought the house, or you're selling it or you're gonNA live there. That house down behind were Adam Corolla used to live now told that about what ten years ago then now. Yeah and is everybody's still living under the same roof for the. Kids SORTA scattered. What's happening? I got one of my kids a pregnant. She lives with her husband. Not here and then the rest of the kids are. Trapped in here. Now everyone's drive with everybody. So low telling you about the work I mean so. You're diagnosed with bipolar one. Yes, I was diagnosed. When I was twenty one. nobody knew what it was, nobody could tell me what was wrong with me and they put me in a mental institution. For two and a half weeks. and that was that was hell. Man will let's kind of break it down because because we didn't have terms then like bipolar, one bipolar, too I think we've been calling it manic depression back that that's what it was it or many of unknown origin, those sorts of things. And what were the symptoms? What was happening to you? I would stay up all night. I wouldn't sleep I would cry for no reason. I would. I was reading Phil Donahue Mind. He was talking directly to you on. Let me tell. You right before he would ask a question. I knew what he was going to say and I got my mom as a witness. So things like that. It was just a lot of things that we're just weren't normal in I wasn't on drugs. And I wasn't drinking so. They can figure it out. And then one night. I got out of bed I slept with my mom and dad. Just because I was sick or whatever it was, that was twenty one. And I jumped out of bed night I. Told my dad that I was the devil. Because then you taste something. Don't ever don't ever have anybody. Watch the exorcist. That movie traumatized me my whole life. So Cops came that night. But they couldn't do anything. Because once. The cops came into the House I was normal. I was a hey. What's going on now? We're just talking. Everything's fine. W Extras last night overdoing. It my mom and dad were crying and stuff so the next morning they took me to the hospital. And that was the beginning of of Hell. What was delicious at the hospital? Well. At the. This is the first hospital. In, order for them to put me in there. That take these big nurse guys grammy? Mike Dad my brother in at that moment I was calling my brother and my dad. The exorcist and I was sitting on. Now is saying you know I'm the exorcist? And gave me a shot. which put me out? And when I woke up. I thought I had died in Gun, heaven. Quiet, in in white in the hospital, it reminded me of heaven until I heard
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Conversation With Maurice Bernard
"Everybody wants to to your podcast. Keep supporting us and supporting the wind that blows the sales. The Corolla Pirate ship onward. Appreciate it very much, also. She Got Dr. do dot com the strings. We're doing there. We're trying to date on all. That's going on. With the. Situation and as well get after. Today, it is my privilege to welcome back to the program Marie Bernard Maurice Is it your numerous race? Nothing general about it. As I nothing about it I love and lithium. Save me on and off. General hospitals are released just recently. You Follow Maurice. Act Maurice Benard the an the also. Maurice, Benard TV were of course. If you remember, he was Sonny Corinthos on ABC. General Hospital since nineteen ninety-three and He's been a friend of this and work for a long time. I welcome back Bernard. Let led to be. Gut Bernardi my head because I I spoke to Anthony Hopkins the other night. Just I just A. It's a long story, but whenever I hear his voice I just think about him sitting down going okay Benard okay, but. Not In your in my not come out of my mouth. While most people say Bernard. Yes, I know, and that's actually I think what the guy's name is Bernard Anthony Hopkins says it's been on. So what's going on about? the book I kind of. Like. One flew over the coup. CUCKOO's nest meets Cinderella. And that's kind of what the whole I mean, but there's a lot of mental health in the book. An incredible love story. With Paula for over thirty years. And kids in animals in the whole thing. Are you still were. Murphy bought the house, or you're selling it or you're gonNA live there. That house down behind were Adam Corolla used to live now told that about what ten years ago then now. Yeah and is everybody's still living under the same roof for the. Kids SORTA scattered. What's happening? I got one of my kids a pregnant. She lives with her husband. Not here and then the rest of the kids are. Trapped in here. Now everyone's drive with everybody. So low telling you about the work I mean so. You're diagnosed with bipolar one. Yes, I was diagnosed. When I was twenty one. nobody knew what it was, nobody could tell me what was wrong with me and they put me in a mental institution. For two and a half weeks. and that was that was hell. Man will let's kind of break it down because because we didn't have terms then like bipolar, one bipolar, too I think we've been calling it manic depression back that that's what it was it or many of unknown origin, those sorts of things. And what were the symptoms? What was happening to you? I would stay up all night. I wouldn't sleep I would cry for no reason. I would. I was reading Phil Donahue Mind. He was talking directly to you on. Let me tell. You right before he would ask a question. I knew what he was going to say and I got my mom as a witness. So things like that. It was just a lot of things that we're just weren't normal in I wasn't on drugs. And I wasn't drinking so.
Alyssa Milano: Sorry Not Sorry
Trans People Taking Office: Brianna Titone Leads the Way
"So Brianna you and I met on twitter and I'm always taken by how tirelessly you work. It seems like you don't sleep do you sleep. You know. Seven seven hours. That's pretty good. That's better than me. How much you share on social media I also think is really important. So thank you for all you do. I really appreciate it. Let's start at the beginning. Can you give my listeners? A little bit more about your background. You grew up in New York right. Yeah from a small town in upstate. New York in the catskill area class of about one hundred and twenty five students in my high school. So everybody knew everybody's business all the time and for me. I was kind of someone who liked to not be the center of attention and I wanted to be Blend in because you know I was a secret cross dresser and that was something I could never let anybody know in a small town especially in the early nineties. Because that wasn't something anybody knew about or did so I how did you? How did you figure out that something that felt good for you cross dressing? It was at your moms close. Yeah yeah it's Kinda just experimentation and just felt right and I wanted to. I wanted to be a girl but I just. It just didn't nothing matched up with me on that and I didn't have any role models or anything I had the Phil Donahue show and a couple of episodes that I saw about transgender people and and it wasn't really put in a good light but it was very intriguing to me and that was one of the first things I remember Of of my childhood of of anything I really saw about that because I liked girls and the the guests on the show were transgender. Women who were married women right. I was like Oh this didn't make a whole lot of sense but it resonated with me. It's funny I wonder how many people watch the Phil Donahue show and got some sort of reflection of who they are from watching because he was great at bringing on guests that we had not always seen in society. Yeah I mean. I don't think he did it to be a freak show like the Jerry Springer ended up doing but the audience didn't really always take those people very friendly but it was intriguing to me and it was always an thought I had in my head but not having any other role models earning exposure to atten no internet. Of course the time I just kind of your parents supportive. They found out about me because I got careless. I was very good at hiding it and they found you. WanNa be found at all. I did not. I was mortified. I mean the sense of like your heart wanting to jump out of your chest of embarrassment and I think everyone can relate to that feeling of being found out about something. Yeah it was. It was a horrible feeling. And you know they were calm and you know they confronted me about it very nicely and they said you know. Would you like to see therapists? And can we talk about it? And I mean I would other choice I have so we did and I talked to therapists about it and from what I remember. The conversation was this. Oh this phase. Don't worry ban so once I walked in to the first therapist it was essentially him saying. We don't really have the tools to help you few months more pass and I walk into another therapist office and she also within the first minutes to said. That sounds like it's really tough thing. I actually don't have the skills to help you or the tool southfield. Six months later I find myself in another therapist's office this time. It was actually after a suicide and he also said this is a really tough thing but we don't have the tools to help you. At that point I tend to for a year so it was really kind of petrifying experience for me to to just sort of transitional loan and I often wonder what would happen if I walked into. That first step is office and said trends and they just said that's great. Let's let's see what we can do for you know. They didn't really know a lot about that kind of stuff back then and especially in a rural part of New York. The therapist really weren't gonNA know a lot about it. If I went to New York City and saw therapists. They're they might have some more information. Maybe better trained in that. Tell you at this point. I think I was probably thirteen. So Young. Yeah and just because of the sheer embarrassment. I just went outside and I burned everything that I had because I can't do this. What society was telling me that was wrong. Right and also you wanted to feel like you're fitting in in school and you wanted to sort of disappear as you said before and yet how you felt was other than yeah yeah and. I just thought that I just if I got rid of all the stuff and then have it anymore. Wouldn't want to be part of my life anymore and that didn't last long and I was ordering things on the Victoria's secret catalog and making sure I got the mail that day when it came very stealthy hiding it and I continued to hide it from them and they didn't know that I was still doing it until I really came out to them as a trans person in my thirties so I kept from them throughout college. How did you just not have these conversations with them? No I just avoid it and you hear a lot of other stories from people about losing their family and losing their friends when they come out and I didn't want that partisan I've ever had to do was to my family and friends. Her daughter is now thirteen. What does she do? She calls me doubt sometime. My daughter and I do a lot of hiking. Hiking history and football are among her favorite things. Westbrook can throw a football nearly sixty yards and throwdown with the guys at work. Is that competitive spirit? That's feeling her fight in the race for Washington. I've been at the lowest points in society and worked my way up to where I'm at now everything that I've been through gives me a certain edge. That representatives typically don't have. I I didn't feel connected with WHO I was when I was about five years old so if I just didn't tell anybody I wouldn't have to worry about it but eventually I came out to the world and I had no choice so I discount cross my fingers. I think about parenting and how my mom used to save his thing to me? Which was don't send in their blind meaning. If something's going on I need to hear from you not from someone else and I think that there's got to be a point of relief. That happens when you know that. Someone's hiding something because parents everything and then being able to discuss it in a way that even better for worse even if you decided at that point you know what. I can't be a part of this because the way in which you see me as destructive but to at least have the conversation right relieved. Yeah they were. They said well. We thought you stopped doing that. And I was like no. I just got better at hiding it because I didn't. I didn't WanNA bring up that. Probably hard that they felt too and we don't really talk about it even still. It's kind of just something we don't we don't go there anymore. We just kind of exist as people doing our own things and I was reading your bio and I was like this person has been through so much and you've taken so many different pads in your life so if those of you that don't know about Brianna shot was a volunteer firefighter. Yup What did you learn about that experience? So I joined up at Sixteen as a junior firefighter and junior firefighter basically rolls up the hoses and gets folds the tarps in gets helps out and I got to take a lot of classes at the county. All of the fire training classes that were available and then when I turned eighteen than I was actually able to put the wet stuff on the red stuff. That's what we used to say. Well and then you were. Also you studied geology physics and Electrical Engineering Double Major. I then I was just a physics major and then I went back to the department chairs to say. What else have you got to offer? An geology was great for me because incorporates all the sciences and I really like science so I ended up switching to geology major and then I decided that I had enough credits to get a physics degree too so I got the physics degree and the geology degree and a minor math. What did you study in Grad School? I I got a master's degree in geochemistry