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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:59 min | Last month

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"To be in the winter circle and they're happy that the horse that performed well for them so that's keeping them happy has always been it's been fun it's been a good part of the job. Yeah, I'm glad you bring up the win pictures and maybe some of the memorabilia that you have because one question I'd love to ask trainers on this show is to take me inside of their house. And if I walked into Dale capuano's house, what are some of the racing memorabilia things and I'm going to see whether it's trophies or whether it's saddle towels or whatever it might be. What am I going to see when I walk into your house? You're going to see the trophies and you're going to see the wind picture the horses you mentioned here. I was rewarding for real a couple other horses in north point Costas. Some horses that aren't as well known, but we're good to us, but that's what you're going to see, miss mischief always in a hurry. You'll see horses like that. North point Costas. That's the name I'm not familiar with. Tell me the story there. Well, that was another bob Haynes horse that he named after my client Costas free and to villas who we've been together 25 years and we're all good friends and his restaurant was on north point boulevard. So I think the north point cost us. And he wanted to be one of Marilyn William race wars. So that was fun. You know, he won a couple races like that. So that's like that. We had good group of guys that we work with. Yeah, you know, we went through all those greatest stakes winners and you did a great job telling me those stories. But there was a quote in your press release that came out about your retirement where you said I don't look at it like I've really done all that much. I've never won a grade one. I've never won a classic type race, those things never happened, but when you think about all the things you did accomplish, you have to be very proud of this career. Well, yes, I am proud of that, but just like I told them, I'm 22nd on the list that means there's 21 guys in front of me. So I look at that and we never want to grade one or a classic type race. So there was things that we weren't able to do. It would have been nice to have, but it didn't happen. And I'm not upset about it. There were some things that boxes that didn't get checked out. That's all. Yeah, not The Rain on your parade Dale, but your 3662 wins is ultra impressive, as you said, number 22 on the list. Not going to catch the guy in front. That asthma guy with 99 71. Right. Exactly. There's no chance of that. No one's going to catch him. I think he'll get over 10,000. He'll set a record that I think will never be broken. Yeah, I was going to ask you that because I have a segment on my Saturday morning equine forum show with Dale Romans and turf writer Tim wilkin and will debate different topics. And I brought that up to them last year or I guess it was a couple of years ago with Steve set the record and I said, will this record ever be broken? And they said no. I don't think it will. No, I agree with them. I think it's a possibility nowadays. There's less racing and asked mucins operations, gigantic and he has horses that they run for cheap races that Sam Houston and he has all the greater one winners and you can shake a stick at. So he's got him from top to bottom. So I don't think there's anybody else that's ever going to come close to duplicating that or even with one a try. Yeah. No, I think you're probably right. Especially the way that racing is set up today and the structure. I would say probably the most likely one to try to catch him would be a guy like Todd pletcher, but he's still my goodness. His win total right now is just under 5500. So he has a long way to go. And Steve's still a pretty young guy. So he's going to keep adding on to that total, so that's going to be a tough one to break. Yes, I think it will never be broken. And then Todd doesn't have the type of horses that Steve have. I mean, he Todd has very few that run cheap races anywhere. So he's definitely his barn looks like it's geared definitely for the whole high caliber type forces. So when you have barns like that, you're not looking to set records of wind. That's for sure. Yeah, it's winning the right races in the big races. Dow capuano, my special guest here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton, Dale or inside the final four minutes of the program. When you think about the past 41 years and everything you have been able to accomplish in all the relationships you've established, what do you think you're most proud of? Wow, that's a tough one. I would have to say I'm most proud that all of my clients have a lot of them have been with me for many, many years and they know that I'm honest with them and do the best that I can all the time and look out for them as well as their horses. So I think that's one of the things I'm most proud of. You said you're going to start taking care of yourself, getting back in shape, going to the gym. What's your routine going to be? What kind of workout regimen will you have? Well, this is like my job. My new job is now working out since I started on the first. I've been working out twice a day morning in the evenings and just added that's how I do things. And I put my mind to it and I pretty much go full speed ahead. So I'll be doing that to try to get myself back in good shape because I haven't had time to work out like I'd like to before. So I'm getting older and I want to retire I want to make sure that I'm physically fit to do whatever I want to do. So right now that's the mode that I'm in. Yeah, I always like to wrap up this program by asking trainers to let us know something about them. We haven't talked about yet over the course of the past hour. So obviously working out is a big thing for you. But any other sports or hobbies or things like that that you'll, you'll expand upon now that you have time to do it with your retirement. Well, I used to try to golf years ago, but I haven't done that very well. So I'm thinking I'll probably get some lessons and try to start over, pick up golf again and go out boat and stuff like that. Go out on the water because I love the water. So things like that will be on my agenda to do list. That's for sure as well as travel. Yeah, when you travel to those warm weather climates, you'll be able to golf and fish and do whatever you like to do and you can do it on your terms now because you've wrapped up a tremendous career and really appreciate you taking the time to join me on this show and look back on your top moments and tell your story. It's been a lot of fun and I want to wish you all the best in retirement. Thank you very much for having me. Thanks a lot. Yeah, wonderful story. Trainer Dell capilano here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipped in 41 years began training at age 18 and never wanted to do anything else and never did anything else. It's been a great career for him. He thanked the horses. He thanked his owners and all the people that made it possible for him and of course learned from his father and

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:21 min | Last month

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"It's just suit them up and get them back over there as soon as you can is really your only option. You know, you can change jockeys, whatever, but it's not. It's just a way it is. It's just the way it is. And it's racing. At least that part of it, really. I mean, it's hard to take. But you get them suited up and get back over there as soon as you can. That's the only way to handle it. Really good for doing that for a long time, and he is my guest here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton. Jim, we're down to believe it or not, the final 16th of a mile in the show as we come down to the final four minutes. And I always like to end the program by asking trainers to tell me something about them that we haven't talked about yet. So any other hobbies or interests or things that you enjoy doing away from racing or enjoy following other sports, other athletes, whatever it might be. So what other things do you enjoy outside of racing gym? Well, I do like to watch TV or watch sports. I'm a fan of all sports. I can't tell you that I've got a team. Like I said, I've been going to Chicago for 33 years. I'm more a fan of the Chicago fan than I am, you know what I mean? Because out of respect for them. And so on and so forth. And at this time, I've got two sons that love me very much. Look to be expanding their families. I've got a 6 month old granddaughter, which is the first, I hope. Or to come. And I want to hang on to my family farm so I can share it with my grandkids, and that kind of what I'm doing. And if you gave me a few days off, I'd probably just head to the farm and fix fence or something. That's fantastic. What if your granddaughter comes to you one day and says, hey, grandpa, I want to be a horse trainer. What do you tell her? Absolutely not. No, it's too hard. It's too hard. The guys are too far and few between, you know? And there's too many great guys out there. I don't know, unemployed or overqualified to do what they're doing or what they're having to do, you know? You know who I'm talking about. You know, it's really sad, you know? But at the same time, I'm a fan of these guys that have these giant stables. And Todd and all those guys, man, I really admire and I'm very popular. And those are kind of from my generation and in addition to those guys, I'm still, you know, the sugs and the Billy monster, my idols, you know? I wish I had done a lot better my whole career, but I'm not holding anybody responsible. I'm not ticked off about it. Well, Jim, I can tell you what, you did one hell of a job on this show here today. And I really do appreciate you spending time to tell me your story. It's been a delight to visit with you. And I hope we get a chance to catch up again soon. All the best moving forward and a very happy and healthy new year to you. Your horses and your

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:12 min | 3 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"This is an exciting time of year, not only on the racetrack, but off the racetrack as phasic tipton is going to have their night of stars starting on Sunday. It's a multi day sale. There are several breeders cup runners this year that will be going through the sales ring at phasic tipton within a few days of their races distaff runners like blue stripe and secret oath and awaken midnight are all scheduled to go through the ring going to Vegas, family way campanelle is scheduled to be sold. Lady rocket Cairo consort be your best lady Hollywood, some of the big names. How much of a difference do you think it is in sales price if one of these runners were to actually win their respective breeders Cup race this weekend? I think it could add as much as a $1 million to the price tag. Maybe more depending on who it is. But it's a big deal. Winning a breeder's Cup race is a big deal. And of course, that excitement and frenzy carries over into the sales ring. I think people would like to own that particular horse. The horses you just listed are terrific. They'd be great. Everybody would like to have them in their brood mirror band. But the fact that they won a breeders Cup race, I mean, would just put them over the top. I know you can't speak for phasic tipton. But for sales company like phasic tipton or the people consigning these horses, are they on pins and needles watching them run in the breeders cup and rooting as hard as anybody for these runners to perform well? Yeah, I mean, I think if you're selling a horse, if you're facing tipton, you'd like the horses in your sail to win races. I mean, that's going to put money in their pocket. But phasic tipton is not about that really. I mean, they're there to serve the horsemen and they do a great job. They help people with their horses, the management sometimes of their horses and where they should put them sail wise and what to do with a horse whether it's a yearling or a brood mirror, the specific sale where they think they can bring the most money. So I think, you know, of course everybody's rooting for their horses do well, but it's not the be all and end all. I mean, they want to make sure that the horses taken care of in the owner is going to maximize what they have. Phaser tipton does a great job year in and year out, and of course there is a night of star sale starts this Sunday over phase of several breeders cup runners set to go through the sales ring at basic tipton and I believe you can watch it all online right on their website as well. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. We're going to be joined by trainer Doug O'Neill. He's got several runners in this weekend's breeders cup races. You're listening to the breeders cup countdown presented by hill and Elliot alapa on HR RN. Curly,

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:58 min | 3 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Presented by phasic tipton on the horse racing radio network. Stop charging Maria. Far outside goes third, wedding toast now picks it up forth, stellar wind, angles wide in the 5th position, Carolina 6 sheer drama 7th, frivolous goes to the grandstand side in 8th, got lucky has a ways to come has to go very wide in the stretch as wide open, stellar wind stopped charging Maria going at it for the top spot moving by the 8th pole. Yahil wood next, calamity Kate toward the inside, sheer drama is 5th. Stop charging Maria short lead. Stellar wind is fighting on, stop charging Maria just keeps battling back. Stop charging Maria wins the long Jean breeders cup distaff for Javier castellano in one minute, 48 and four fifths seconds. Welcome back to trainer talk presented by phasic tipton right here on the horse racing radio network, Mike penna, Jude feld in our Lexington studios continuing to visit with trainer Todd pletcher about his stellar career. Stop charging Maria winning the breeders cup distaff in 2015, Kurt Becker had the call. That was at keenland. And of course, winning for trainer Todd pletcher. It was one of two breeders cup victories for Todd on that program, of course he won the dirt mile in 2015 with Liam's map. So it was an outstanding breeder's cup and Todd, I can imagine that you couldn't have asked for anything better going into that one. No, I mean, the one thing we felt like we learned from the year before was that stop charging Maria ran very well when she was fresh and so we decided not to run her after Saratoga and just train it up to the breeders cup and I remember last breeze prior to the breeders cup was she was actually the last one that we were going to breeze prior to the breeders cup all the other horses had pretty the two days prior to that and the forecast of morning was looking a little dicing originally at our schedule to breeze after the break and it looked like rain was coming in. So we called an audible and decided to freeze earth like 5 30 in the morning and it was I mean it's dark and quinoa and it's much better than it used to be in the old days because they've got some lighting around there and from the grandstand and stuff. But I remember clocking and she breathed really well but the Gallup I was like insane to the point where I thought I'd actually mistimed that she went so fast on the Gallup and so I called Mike while she was clocking as it did did you catch that the same way I did? And so I knew she was sitting on a big race and she's generally one of those that was so transparent when she was when she was going to run well she would always breeze really well and so we were pretty excited to coming up to the race and it was great to see her deliver a performance like that. Yeah, she was awesome I might be a little prejudiced because my wife works for town and country farm. But that was a big day for everybody. Certainly for you and for the horse especially she just ran as good as she could run. Absolutely. Yeah, she was terrific and just a genuine and like I said when it's great when you have some of those for ended up two, three, four, 5 year old year and you get to know get to know them well enough that you can just kind of you can read when they're really on their games and she was certainly given us every indication that she was. If you are just joining us here on trainer talk tonight don't forget that if you miss any portion of the show you can go back to our website horse racing radio net and check out the podcast of this show and all of our trainer talk shows at your leisure horse racing radio dot net and horse racing radio network on iTunes. Todd putcher joined us back in 2012 for a 30 minute visit and we didn't get an opportunity that day to touch on some of his more memorable moments in his career, meaning some of the stars that he has been around on the equine side. So we're going to do that for you in the second half of the program this afternoon. And Tyler, I thought what we would do, I'm going to kind of throw it to you and just throw you a name of one of those top horses you've been around and let you kind of fill us in on some of the thoughts that you have. Some of the things that come to mind when I mention that name. And let's go ahead and start writing the beginning. Let's start with the name Jersey girl. I mean, I've always said that I felt like two horses really help my career get going and her and more than ready. I think are the two that really put us on sort of the national scene winning graded stakes and she was our first grade one winner when she won the acorn, but we bought her out of the phasic tips and called her that time two year old training sale from Niall Brennan for the accurately brothers for 220,000. And I mean, she was just an absolute gorgeous silly just everything that Wayne Lucas would teach you about what you want a horse to look like she was that just a big powerful, beautiful mayor and had some success as a two year old, had to give her a little time off. It came back as a three year old and I think end up going 7 for 7 and with wins and maybe corn on the mother goose and the test and just really got our steel going and she's certainly an all time favorite. How about trippy? Trippy was an interesting horror so I tell you he was extremely talented very fast and I guess to put it kindly he was a bad mover. I mean he looked like you're right now washing machine when you come out here but man, you did it did it effectively and quickly and I remember

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

03:12 min | 3 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Yeah, I mean, that was. Obviously when we've been looking forward to get the proverbial monkey off our back and winning a Derby and just it was funny because we went into the winter after he'd won the Kentucky jockey club in the fall at Churchill and ramp so well we knew we'd like the surface there and so we sort of went into the winter thinking that he had a legitimate chance that the Derby and hopefully getting there and it just seemed like nothing was going really well for him for most of the winter. We were just having trouble get them into a groove and he got sick and it was just kind of one little thing after another and finally we got a delayed start in the Tampa Derby and I think we ran well but wasn't fully cranked up for that and then we were planning on going probably to the wood or at the time and then he got another little temperature and so we had a setback for that that just seemed like we were having trouble getting on schedule for we ended up using the Arkansas Derby as a backup plan and he lost a tough photo there, but it was just one of those things that everything seemed to start to go right for the horse and the three weeks after the Arkansas Derby just came into himself. He was moving great and loved Churchill and Brie super there and just everything went for that three week period just everything came together and sometimes you'd love to be able to control those things with all of them in some cases. It just happens and it was perfect for him and get a perfect trip and let track and all those things just kind of fell into place and sometimes you need new things to go your way a little bit and get a lucky break and I think we got a few of them especially those last couple of weeks leading into it and with the wet track and he was just he was the best he had been at any point in his life at that time. Todd putter with us here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton looking back on some of the most memorable moments that we've seen over the years and there have been so many for Todd and for his entire team. It's been quite a ride. We're going to continue to do that in the second half of the program. We're going to look back on some of the other names that it's kind of a trip down memory lane, so to speak, because we're going to look back on names like a shadow and English Channel and wait a while and spite town and even flower alley, some of those names that we grew up with in the sport that Todd has been part of. So it should be a lot of fun, JT. Yeah, looking forward to it. Todd, if you don't mind, stay with us. We're going to take a quick break. We will come back the second half of trainer talk presented by phasic tipton is next. After the breeders

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:51 min | 5 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"You know, I always listen to him hollowing all that, but I think it wasn't going to wait. He wanted them to go. But away from the barn, he was a great person. I can't say enough about that. When he was, when we were down in south street in the year of the coronavirus virus, he couldn't be at the barn because of that he had heart surgery and he had to be away from the bone, but every morning at 4 o'clock clockwork, the phone would ring, I know who it is his job. And he was always saying, I want you to train a voice. The way you see free. Every day, he would make that phone call. And the day that phone call didn't come. When he went to the hospital, you know, it just didn't feel right. And then his girlfriend had called me and told me he passed away. And it's kind of shook me, not that I was kind of shook me that I didn't have a job or anything. I did that job point. It's a friend now. The friend part is just shakes you. But he was a great person and, you know, I never worked for him until that fall of 19, or maybe like 6 months, that he passed away, but he was a good trainer. I grew up in Jersey. I've watched him win a lot of races. But I never worked for him. But when I got to know him, when I was in the barn, what I mean, that's when I knew he was a great person. But, you know, he was a great man. And he could train a little too. 526 career winners, his run was earned, nearly $11 million, and as I mentioned earlier, he had several greatest stakes winners as well. So it wasn't like he was winning cheap races when he got a good horse. He knew what to do with it. And you know, I think it speaks a lot to his talent as a trainer too, where he was able to win with horses that weren't great at states caliber, but when he got one, hey, he took advantage of it, didn't he? Yes, he did. Yes, he did. I can't say he was a great man. Right. He was a better, I mean, he was a great trainee with a better person. Yeah. Yeah. Talking with Eddie Owens junior here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton and I mentioned Eddie now taking over for John who passed away back in 2020 and he is now handling the duties for all of the horses at Holly crest farm and has about ten horses right now and wouldn't mind a couple more, but he's happy with the ten and he's got a good one and speaking coming up in the Gallup bob on Saturday at parks. Eddie, how do you describe your approach to training horses? I'm like a day to day I really don't. I mean, you got to approach it with an open mind, really. Things change from day to day. And we encourage one day to nodded, I mean, I don't want to say they sore, but they're not. Into that day. You're going to back off sometimes. I mean, I just take it as a calm, that means I can't describe it on horses, not to train. The voices don't. It's like going to work every day. Sometimes you just don't want to go to work. Can a horse Eddie that doesn't like to train, still be a good racehorse? If he's willing to put in that little bit of extra effort, every once in a while. I have a silly ear. And I've run for 7500. I want 12,000. And just one day, if you just like, I spoke to me, I'm ready to win that allowance recently. And I stuck her into Jersey Brennan, but I put her in the optional claiming 15 honor. She might not be in the field. I mean, she's trained like the stakeholders. Don't get me wrong. But some days you know, I don't want to do it. You don't want to be anything. I mean, she wants to train. I would bet my last dollar on her to be anyone on the racetrack. But she don't want to do it. It's not getting done. That's not. Yeah, it's amazing how these horses each have their individual personalities. And that's as much the job of a trainer as anything to try to learn those personalities. And deal with, it's just like working with people in some ways. Isn't that Eddie where you have to deal with the different personalities? It's very similar with horses. I call it attitudes. These submarine horses just have bad attitudes. Some have great attitudes. I don't want to call it other than that. Personality, you know, attitude. Some of them just have a bad attitude toward it. They just don't want to do it. Yeah, it's a great profession and every trainer that comes on this show will tell you that this is the greatest sport in the world, but that's all really part of the job of a trainer to figure those things out. Eddie, believe it or not, we're down to about the final four minutes in the program. If you can pull off the wind and the gallant bob on Saturday, it'll be your first greatest takes win as a trainer. What would that mean to you? A lot. I'm not

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

01:49 min | 5 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"The back, back, back form. And I don't think he'd be showing up in here if he wasn't doing really well going the right way. So possible. Well, I think it's Mission Impossible. See what I did there, Tom Cruise, Mission Impossible. See what I did there? That was very good. I don't see it. You know, when he won it, he won that race last year. He had basically the lead to himself that he's going to have pressed today because he got the likes of Marx, Marquez gets spoken out there. He'll go in there and this horse is going to have to do a lot more work if he's going to pull it off again. And I last year when he won it was a course was wet. And he gets maybe he's not as good on the ground and he's, you know, he's gotten beaten pretty good in his last two, so he'd have to have a complete turnaround to get this done and I don't see it. I'm sorry, but 7 year old town cruise, I think, is risky business in this race. But Mike, come up with these little thing, one liners. That's pretty good. That's pretty strong, Tim wilkin. All right, one more topic here for right or wrong. Saratoga del mar colonial downs and Kentucky downs all produced record meets this year. The first few days of the keenland September yearling sale also shattered records as did Saratoga with phasic tipton a few weeks back. With all of this positivity, it's time for racing naysayers to just shut it. Okay. Dale? It's been a long time coming

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:33 min | 5 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Wins. And we go back in last year again. And at 7, 8, oh man, she'll never make it that far. Well, she made it like three quarters in front, but she got covered up and run a good third. So I will try anything to a point. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you are an example, Hutch of what every horse sell company that message that every horse sell company wants to get out there, right? Phasic tipton, Keenan, whoever it is, they want you to know that you, in every designer, by the way, want you to know that even though a horse may have one little thing, right? As long as it's not too serious, one little thing, they can overcome it. And they can become a very good racehorse and you can get a good racehorse for a very reasonable price. Right. Do you think espresso was probably your greatest purchase considering she was only a thousand bucks and considering what she did? No, winning envelope. Really? My greatest picture. How come? She was a freak. She was never had a horse that fast in my life. She was just that freak speed that you don't see very often. What do you remember about her when you saw her at the sales for the first time? She just looked like she was ready to ready to run, ready to put in the gate, didn't look like, I mean, she was already and she was always like that all through breaking and training. She was all business. She just for the first time, she's starting the gate. It's the first time that they even flopped and she knew when that gate opens. She knew what she was supposed to be doing. Yeah. And you're the type of guy that's not afraid to take a little money off the table, either because you ended up selling winning envelope if I recall, I think you told me that story four years ago, you sold her and got that money off the table. And that's something that we hear a lot of people talk about in this game. It can be hard to do if you become too attached to these horses, can it? Real hard to do. Yes, very. How are you able to bring yourself to do that with a horse that you just said was probably your greatest purchase? Well, I have 5 kids and, you know, had mortgage had up to the gills and bills. That makes it a little easier. Right. And you always hope you always hope to do it again. So you keep trying and maybe you think I got this money, I can buy a little better horse. It seems like the more money I spend, the more problems I have, so I try to keep it on the lower end. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's working. Whatever the plan is, however you're doing it, it continues to work for you. With a horse such as white winning envelope, I think you told me that before she even ran, you started to get offers for her. And then after that maiden win, you kind of gambled a little bit, said, no, I'm going to hold off, and then she breaks her maiden first time out and those offers just started coming in even bigger, right? Right. It was a game. Well, I didn't sleep much that night before. What made you what made you take the risk and not take the money right away? Because she was just a freak. I knew that she wasn't a horse that like, oh, I think she's going to need Lasix to or she's going to need any. She didn't just one of those that there wasn't, I knew there was nothing to touch her. She'd had to fall down to get and that can happen. But that's literally what would have happened for her to get beat. Yeah. Yeah. After you, after you sell a horse that you think so highly of, how closely Hutch are you following the rest of their career? Hello, I followed her all the way. I worked for Chris block all my life as a farrier and I was I was still shooting her every month and I was even I had a transport horses too. I was even hollering her to races and I was real closely tired with her. I wanted to see her do good. Yeah, yeah. How many years did you shoot horses for? I forget what you told me for you. Was it like 20 years? 20 plus years? Yeah, I'm up first around a little over 30 now. I've been, I still shoot horses around. I'll just get you on the racetrack, can't have a conflict of interest with license. So a licensed trainer civilizes ferrier, so I kind of shoot farms yeah. You know, I look at your statistics. You go to equibase Hutch and you see your statistics as a trainer here in 2022. And you've only had 24 starters this year. 6 wins, 5 seconds, and a third. Man, that's getting after it. That's really good. try and hard trying to keep him in the right spot. Well, okay, so tell me about that. So what's your philosophy as a trainer? I look at numbers a lot.

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

05:43 min | 6 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Everything. Like in one, can win sorry, spending, routing, tabitha, there, depending on what they have or horses, baby horses, female boys, no matter what you have, I don't want to be known by having one, it's basically one angle like this spring trainer or this is a baby trainer or this is a claim in trainer. I want to have it all. And pretty much thank God the stats are showing that we pretty good of the claim. We are pretty good with the first timer. We're pretty good with three rolls. We pretty good running claimings or running main special ways or running stage of waste eggs or it doesn't matter where we've got like we already have I just wing. Where do you need to improve the most right now? I wouldn't move or fit anything that I have right now. I just try to focus more on getting better horses and new clients and Broadway clients that are already in the big leagues. Not many as a claiming, I would happy to train them and to have them is the good horses and the stakes of the are going to show you around that I'm going to give you a reputation that is going to last forever. So right now I'm just trying to focus now that the sales are coming 18, 25 year links that have the potential to be good to it and really good sales. So maybe I'm lucky and have a whole thing and go to the Kentucky area or to areas of international show, I asked you the one attribute or quality of your father as a trainer that you have tried to emulate. How about your uncle Gustavo? What are some of the things that he does well that you have tried to take away from his operation and do it your way? Well, I always say more this is more personal like of his personality and his character. The guys never satisfied and it doesn't matter what happened that day guru but the next day he worked harder and he gets a little better. He will do he's a guy that is always pushing for better and always striving for better. It's easy to say but it's not easy to do it when they do have 300 savings 65 days and through the years to keep that intensity and that determinant is remarkable. So I think that was the thing I appreciated for his experiences and for all his lessons that the guy in life he always never back down he never fills down like makes us there is always moving forward. He will turn the page and move forward and move forward and try to do things different or better but it will move forward. The whole win or lose he always move forward. So I try to be the same. I'd like to be always like a baseball player that one day got stuck out the first three in the first I forget that right away and I tried to go to the next one and not keep it down in my mind too much so I don't waste time and I don't get stuck in the past. I just try to move forward and be better every day. And you've done it very, very well and it must be fun when you get to run against your uncle too and kind of lock horns with him on the racetrack. I'm sure that's a fun family dynamic too visiting with Jorge Delgado who is my special guest here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton Jorge we're down to the final three minutes or so in the program and I always like to wrap up the show by asking trainers to tell me something about themselves that we haven't talked about yet. So any other hobbies or interests or sports that you follow or anything like that that you enjoy doing outside of racing. And a big fan of basketball and a big fan of soccer. I love music. I love to listen to music and every other like that's one of my things. I like to go to the gym and like clean my mind and try to feel better mentally and just put my airports on and lead it to music is one of my favorite things to do. And pretty much I consider myself, I can see I can be seen a little rough sometimes scary. I've been told, but I'm pretty much, in my opinion, I'm down to fun times and time and I'm pretty much there myself more like a child and more like a key to have a junk so I'm just I will leave my time person and just try to have the time. Yeah, I don't find you scary at all. I never was scared doing this show with you my friend. Never once. I heard that in this wagon, not so long ago. I guarantee she has looking for a job and she says, I just want to go, but you always saw the focus and you look scary. Focused. Dialed in, whatever word you want to use to describe it. That is Jorge Delgado. It's been a wonderful, wonderful hour hearing your story, Jorge. I can't thank you enough

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:57 min | 9 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"Well, my guest on today's show first joined us on trainer talk ten years ago. It was December 12th, 2012, and at that time he had saddled right around 1100 winners, his top horses include grade two winners, bear fan, holiday for kitten and gypsy Robin. That was it at that time. He was just three years removed from becoming the first American trainer to win a race at royal ascot, but had yet to saddle his first grade one winner and was still trying to break through in a breeder's Cup race. Well, an awful lot has happened in an awful lot has changed over the past decade. His win total now stands at 2120, which includes 6 breeders cup victories and 12 victories at royal ascot. Please join me in welcoming trainer Wesley ward to train her talk presented by phasic tipton Wesley appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, really excited to look back on these last ten years and your entire career really, but man, it's been a busy ten years for you, my friend. It doesn't seem like that long, does it? No, it doesn't. You know, you've seen your career just go to astronomical levels over the past decade. What's been the key? You know, like I'd say, you know, just hard work and luck and just keep every day you just keep moving forward and good things happen. So just perseverance. Yeah. Yeah, and we're going to spend plenty of time talking about the top horses over the past decade and even looking back to the early days of Wesley ward. We'll spend some time talking about your champion rider career as well. But, you know, Wesley, when you think about the horses and the people and everything that's been associated with your success, what are some of the things that immediately come to mind for you? Oh, guys. It's just every day. You know, we're just get up every day and just keep working as hard as we can and try to do the best for the horses and keep them happy and give them the time that they need to when they're asking for it and bring them back and run them when they're ready and good things seems to happen and have happened in key time. How much different do you think you are today as opposed to when we did the show ten years ago? How much different are you as a trainer today considering the things that you've learned in the experience that you've gained? It's an experience. I think that you learn from your experiences and traveling and going over and as a trainer I get to go over all over the world and talk to different trainers and owners and jockeys and you pick the brain and you learn things. There's no textbook manual to training resources, so it's just what works and what.

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:31 min | 9 months ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"And he was just he was just always a different kind, he was just better. Yeah, yeah, he was very much still is. Special just to have any part of it. Talking with trainer Kevin McCarthy here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton in advance of this year's Preakness stakes if you're just tuning into the show. Kevin will saddle long shot fenwick coming up on Saturday afternoon and hoping to continue the theme of long shots winning Triple Crown races here in 2022. You don't have to worry about the Derby winner, but boy, that's a pretty loaded field, Kevin. I know, I think it is, I mean, there's some in there you're going to have to outrun without a doubt. I don't think it's an easy spot. I'm not necessarily going because it's easy. But I think it kind of opened up a hair, you know, to where it was worth taking the shot and giving him another. I just want him to run his race that they feed him they feed him. Okay, that's great. But I want him to have a fair, you know, a fair shake at it. He deserves it and I think, you know, I don't lead him over there to just embarrass myself and that's not my plan, you know? And if it happens, you know what? We'll drop back in front and find another spot, you know? But I think right now, yeah, there are some horses in there that stuff, but hey, at one point, it ain't even bad to run third in the freak nation. It won't look bad. It's on the poster of the ever a stallion. So I mean, but I do think he belongs in there. I think if he gets if he gets his race, they're going to have to deal with it. Well, and you have some remarkable similarities. Your story is very similar in some ways to Eric Reid, who lost horses in a barn fire lost his young grandson in an automobile accident. He lost two of his best friends. His assistant trainers that worked with him who died suddenly. And you had a situation in 2019 where you lost your brother. JB, who we talked about earlier, he died suddenly of a heart attack. Your dad passed away earlier this year. You told me in that interview that we aired on equine forum that the decisions that you're making now, you always think, what would JB, what would he have wanted to do? And I can only imagine that boy, they're going to be smiling down on you and fenwick on Saturday, my friend. I think smiling, hopefully not laughing, but hopefully smiling. But I know my dad would be like, what are you doing? What is this crazy guy doing? You know, I mean, I think they have to smile. I mean, hopefully don't reach down and catch us, you know? Yeah, yeah, well, I'm sure they're very, very proud of everything you've been able to accomplish, you know, certainly when they were here on earth and now looking down at you too. I know it's going to be a special day for you. How many friends and family members will be at the pregnancy with you? Well, unfortunately, all it's ammonium thinks I'm going to take them over there, but. They're a little tight on tickets over there. So I think that it's just going to be close family and the people that are here with me right now and you know it's kind of really for the guys that own the horse. I can't be I can take over as many as I can and I'd love to take all these people. I love them all, but they're tight over there on them tickets. Yeah, yeah. You mentioned the timonium and I talked about that at the beginning of our conversation here today too. It doesn't stop. You're going to go to the Preakness saddle fenwick and then after that you have to go right back over to work at the sale because you're going to be selling horses there. How many horses will you be selling, Kevin? I have four. I have four over here, so I'm not overran and I got lucky today. My worst shipped in today got off the van this morning at 6 a.m. and I was lucky. I didn't have anything to freeze today. So it kind of worked out well. And I raised one yesterday and I got three breeze in tomorrow. So we're going to get up early and we're going to go over and get him. Get him pruned around the track and let him look at all the crazy tents and things going on over there. And then I'll be right back here pretty sure. Kevin, let's go win the middle jewel of the Triple Crown, my friend. That'd.

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:49 min | 1 year ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"So much more? Marshall Allen here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton Marshall we're down to the final three minutes or two and a half minutes of the program. This hour has really flown by and it's been remarkable to hear your story and here you talk about receiving that white horse award and essentially saving a life on the backside last year and if folks missed that in the beginning of the program, we spent most of the first half talking about that story, I'll encourage them to head back and listen to the podcast. But it looks like about a minute and a half to two minutes left. I'm going to ask you one final question. What do you consider to be the most special win of your career? Maybe not even the biggest, but the most special. Oh. I think that'd be tough. It would probably be maybe one of the earlier horses I trained that I owned was the one I was talking about illustrious legend. We call them Gumby. He was a horse that you had. I mean, he just kind of he just he had to really take your time with him. I didn't even get him started until he was like 5 years old because you'd take two steps forward and take another step back. And I would always give him the time and if it was time to stop and you stop and turn him out and bring him back next year and first time when I ran him and he goes out and wins. I mean and just talk about a speed ball and it just always for a horse to overcome challenges and stuff and still go out there and give it all is probably the most memorable thing you'd ever have with the racehorse. Because you know what it takes to get a horse there and for them to go out there and give you everything and to go out and win and just made me really proud of that is a special win and Marshall Allen is a very special person. And again, if you missed the first half of the program, our conversation about him essentially saving a life of an owner on the backside of Churchill downs last year, Marshall's very humble, but he was very gracious and telling us that story here tonight and Marshall really want to thank you for your time and it's been a delight to hear your story. Thank you for everything you do. And I know you don't consider yourself a hero, but so many of us on the outside looking in certainly do. So thanks for being there, my friend. Well, thank you for having me. All right, that's Marshall Allen. Here on trainer talk presented by phasic tip and again, if you missed any portion head to our website, horse racing radio dot net to check out the podcast. You can also do that now on Apple podcast pod.

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:15 min | 1 year ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"The opposite direction. I was coming from on the opposite side of the shed row, but he always knew when I was within a little more than a barn away, you could hear him hauling. I was there. And that always amazed me. He loved bananas and oranges. So maybe you got a banana every morning when I got there. So for some reason, but I wasn't caring about it. I couldn't smell them because we're born, but wow. Who would have thought? So how about carrots? Did he have any interest in carrots? You know, he really, it was really odd. He didn't seem to care for the carrots so much, but the bananas and orange. I mean, you could just peel an orange and you just eat them. One time I even take just frozen concentrate orange juice and put it mix it with water and put it in a pie tin. And he just drink it up like it was the best thing he ever had. Wow. Unbelievable. Marshall Allen here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton. As I mentioned, he has trained horses. He started from the ground up. You just heard him tell that story. He's trained horses. He most recently worked as an assistant trainer. Are you still working as an assistant now, Marshall? Yes, I am. You are. So let me ask you this question. Do you prefer to be the assistant or do you prefer to be the boss, considering you've been on both sides of that fence? Well, probably from my, you know, because of my background of having trained for quite a while. I mean, I've had up to some times in my life. I've had 20 had a horse. And so my experience always is what got me jobs as assistants as I got older because it would give the trainer freedom. And I always felt like that was probably my biggest strength was you can go and do stuff with your family or you can go and if you got to take a trip for a week, you can go and I'll run that barn the way that that trainer expects it run, whether they're there or not. I've always been real adaptable that way, 'cause every trainer is different. They all have kind of their own little ways or things they want done or how they want the barn run. And I think my talent has always been, I can run it. And give you freedom to get away. But in that barn is going to run whether you're there or not, just as if you were. And I just kind of looked at it that way. So I think I'm a better assistant. Well, you know, considering that this is a 365 day year profession. You don't hear about trainers taking days off very often. How challenging can that be for a trainer to have to miss time with family? Maybe it's a baseball game or a soccer game or whatever it might be. And you can't be there for those events. How challenging is that for a trainer? Well, I think it's very challenging because especially when you have younger kids and your kids grow up so fast and. You're so locked into the racing and stuff that it's tough to get away. I mean, it really and it's not like anybody uses it as an excuse. I mean it's just you're always kind of tied to something that needs to be done or something comes up or it's just kind of the nature of the sport or the business is to not be able to get away and have some freedom. So it's difficult on the families that especially if the families aren't participating in the day to day regimen because then you're gone so much more? Marshall Allen here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton Marshall we're down to the final three minutes or two and a half minutes of the program. This hour has really flown by and it's been remarkable to hear your story and here you talk about receiving that white horse award and essentially saving a life on the backside.

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

06:20 min | 1 year ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"And I was going to bet on them and just try to have about 15 tickets. And of course, being a gambler at that time in your young Cavaliers had a horse in that I thought was an easy winner. His name was Carney's point. And I decided that some of my money on carnage points and my yeah, if I recall correctly, he got beat and I only ended up with three tickets on secretary, but that was all right three was enough. But it was a great experience. Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. But just to be so close to him, didn't you even witness a young lady pulling a piece of hair out of secretariat? Well, that's a long time ago, but I do recall that. I was in the paddock. I was grilling a horse named fave count. It was one of I was very young. And so I was grooving this horse and I was working for Jerry Levine. He got a more experienced room to take the horse to the paddock. So I was walking around on the other side. And I remember turning and watching their secretary in front of me and they said he reaches up and just kind of turned one of his hair from his tail into her finger and just kind of give it a little Paul and he didn't even yeah, I didn't move an inch in L and of course she got something to remember for the rest of her life I guess. But I remember seeing that and it was quite I was impressed with how come he was in the paddock. He not much bothered him. Yeah, people will do just about anything for a souvenir like that, especially from a great horse, like secretariat visiting with trainer Dan vela here on trainer talk presented by facing tipton if you're just tuning in, Dan has been doing this since 1972, so a 50 year career and he has so many wonderful stories. Real quick before we move on, Dan, I want to pass this along a bit of housekeeping here for our listeners. This show, of course, presented by our friends at phasic tipton, facing tipping getting ready to host their winter mix sale in Lexington, Kentucky, which is supposed to start next Monday. We are under a ice storm advisory here in the bluegrass. So because of that phasic has decided to push the sale back one day. So the sale instead of being Monday and Tuesday next week, it will now be Wednesday Tuesday and Wednesday. February 8th and 9th to allow everybody to get in here safely and I think a wonderful move by facing tipton. Let's talk a little bit more about your relationship with Frank stronach in the horses that you had the chance to be around with him. What do you remember about the first time he met Frank and how that relationship came to be with you training for him? Well, I had I had it started a gentleman that worked for him. His name was Don Amos. And I had trained a little bit for I was just getting going and I had training to horse that dawn had sold at auction. And I got to know dawn, he would come by the barn. So yeah, I called him up one day, and I said, general Don, I'd love to get to meet Frank, strong. And I'd love to, you know, I mean, you got to be aggressive sometimes. You got to sell yourself. And Dons got me an interview with Frank and that's where it all started. We sat down and talked and we kind of hit it off right away. My father had been a machinist. He was there was a connection there. We talked a little bit about that. Frank was a machinist when he started out and yeah, next thing I know I had four horses in the barn and had some great success with a couple of them and it moved up from there. Which are some of the horses that you're never going to forget when you think back on your career, Dan, whether they were a dean of spring's horses or horses that were owned by other people that you were around, but some of the horses, when you say, boy, I've been doing this 50 years. I'm never going to forget this horse, or these horses. Yeah. One of my first jobs, I trained for Steve stab. He had affiliate names, agriculture. She was not a very big silly, not imposing. But might have been the fastest horse. I was ever around. We took her to I was training kind of in tandem with another trainer at the time, and for her staff role. And we took her to Europe and she got beat ahead and Frito obeyed a long shot. She was an absolute rocket. So I'll never forget her. You know, probably the best horse I was ever around. Well, not probably. He was ghost sapper was, you know, I mean, if you categorize horses allowance horses, their stay courses, there's grade one horses. There's classic horses. Then there's that category that's kind of mysterious almost. And I called them freaks. They're just rigs. They do things that your whole life, you watch horses and they can't do them. Secretary, it was that way. And I go shopper was much the same. I mean, you could watch him and some of his races and he would, you know, he'd run three quarters of a mile in sprint time. And then just keep on going. And horses shouldn't be able to do those things. And he could. I had the pleasure of breaking him as a baby and getting him ready. And send him out to Bobby frankel and it was kind of he was a bit of a lazy horse, so it took a while for him to really clue in, but of course, Bobby was one of the greatest of all times. And we would chat about him and stuff like that, very interesting, but if I'm not mistaken, first start of his life, I think he run one of the best buyers for a first time starter still ever. And ghost rapper was he was a top end horse that you only see a couple in your lifetime..

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

01:40 min | 1 year ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"To Peru and Machu Picchu and Cusco and went to Brazil and went to Chile and went to Easter Island in the Pacific and after the triple ground. Yeah. Do people know who you were? Did they recognize you? Believe it or not, believe it or not, there are any place that had racing, they knew me. I got down to Barbados. I went down to Barbados in I'm standing there and watching the watching the horses come out of the panic. Hey, Bill good to see you again. What are you doing down here? And they're all riders that were ruled off in the states. They found a new home in Barbados. Listen, they have very good racing down. Yeah, they do. That's very good racing. Have you been there? I have not. I would love to go see Andy lane gold cup one year though. Well, I was down there just about three years ago. It stayed at sandy lane as their guest, and it was a lot of fun. Billy Turner, my special guest here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton Billy, it has been an absolute delight of thoroughly enjoy the hour and really do appreciate you spending some time here. And all the best moving forward, my friend. Well, thank you very much. I'm just glad they're glad you brought out a few things. Some of them was the truth. There were a couple of pieces in there that were true. Billy Turner, ladies and gentlemen, and of course the trainer of the great Seattle slew. Will we have another Triple Crown winner this Saturday? Well, we'll have it for you right here on the horse racing radio network. You can.

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

02:49 min | 1 year ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"The connections and going to Vegas is in the sale and owned by medallion and haven't done and my race are worse than you think. Wow, how cool would that be for the industry to reach that many people in the ownerships groups if she happens to win? And oh, by the way, it'll probably help with some appreciation and how you have that takes place. And there's so many horses that were proud that we had to kind of single out a few of them. We got to graduate like domain who's short odds has been remarkable in virtually every start. So there's an off awful lot of opportunities and a lot of rooting interest. But if I get one home I only get to get one home I'd have to say I'll take a few days to devil. Yeah. It would be fantastic to see her get the victory there and she certainly is talented as they come. Mark Cassie joined us on our breeders cup countdown show earlier this week. He told the fantastic story about got stormy. That was really cool. Then you have stiletto boy who this past week on my trainer talk show, which is presented by facing tipton. I had the chance to welcome stiletta boys trainer Ed Moser junior and he's a he's a wonderful person. This is his first breeders cup starter, Boyd, as I'm sure you're aware. And it would be wonderful to see stiletto boy pull off a victory. He's going to be a long shot in the classic, but he was purchased by Ed's brother Steve out of the July selected horses of racing age sale at phasic tipton and Steve wasn't even there. He was doing it from his home in Washington state and he was bidding online, Boyd. It's a wonderful story and great people and it would be fantastic if stiletto boy runs well. Sure. That's the great thing about the breeder chef and honestly about the industry. We don't ever know where the next great horse is going to come from. It might come from modest breeding. It might come from a very wealthy one billionaire who has spent a lot of money to achieve success. Mike come from guys like you and I that have thrown together and Ken that was the guy and bought a horse or we just never know. And that's the beauty of it. And that's what keeps the dream alive for everybody and makes it such a wonderful sport and a wonderful game. Very well said. He's Boyd browning president of phasic tipton again he is going to be back at Lexington because he's got to get ready for that phasic tip to night of star sale. Coming up on Tuesday here in Lexington, Boyd really appreciate the conversation as always best of luck with the breeders cup runners and best of luck with the sale next week. Keep it rolling. Thank you, Mike, we're going to our very best, you know that. All right..

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"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

04:06 min | 1 year ago

"phasic tipton" Discussed on The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

"So they can get their prime physical activity in that race. How good do you think manor house can be? Well, I can tell you this. He's pretty much as good as most of the horses that have been really good that I had in my hands on. I think he's very talented. How long does it take you to know that when you start working with a horse? Honestly, it's funny. This was the first time I saw him and I looked at him in the stall. I just had a feeling. He just, he has a presence. And he has a class about him. And you really get a feeling. And that was, before I ever even watched and trained on the track. And then as I watched him train on the track, every little thing you asked him to do, he would do and he would do better. So he was kind of like that. That student in school that's working to go to Yale that doesn't do just enough, but goes above and beyond each and every time without being overcooked or overpressured, just does it very easily. Pretty cool stuff talking to Michelle Hemingway here on trainer talk presented by phasic tipton, you heard us talk about manor house who became her first horse that she ever settled here in the United States and it became her first winter shortly after that. When you were walking over with manor house, Michelle and you walked into the paddock, tell me about that moment. What was that like leading him over? I'll be honest with you. I think the thing that was the most disappointing is that Gulfstream park, people make fun of me for this. They give like best turned out awards. So I worked really hard. I wanted him to look beautiful. I had the black bridle on the black and blue brow band. I braided his main myself. I made him look all pretty. And I was like, okay, I want to share my lynch and I'm like, no, you better look at my horse, because he looks good. And I think I was just trying to think about how he looked in the paddock and how he was acting. And, you know, I was hoping that she was going to notice that. So it was funny, you know, I'm a girl, so we think about those things. Yeah, I mean, well, you got to look the part, right? Right. You know, I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. How much different is it leading a horse over that you've worked with for so long and you're the trainer of record. It's going to be your first starter here in the states, as opposed to leading a horse over that is trained by somebody else. You're the assistant trainer or whatever the case might be. But now that you're the one in charge and you've had a hand in getting this horse to the races, how much different was that for you making that walk? To be honest with you, when I was an assistant, I always sort of considered them to be my horses. So I felt the same amount of pressure. If that makes any sense. I think the thing was, it was all the eyes that were on me and all the questions that I was getting, oh, wow, why now? How did you get here? What is it about this horse? You know, as opposed to it wasn't really a thought process of the horse being any different or the result being any different. It was more of the questions that were coming from people of like, why did you decide to do it with this horse? Where did this come from, you know? Yeah, so why did you decide to do it with this horse? You know, I think mostly because Nick luso offered me the opportunity. If it wasn't for the opportunity that Nick offered me and bringing me to be part of thorough stock and this great organization, I think I probably just would have been okay. You know, posting along and being an assistant or doing this or doing that, but, you know, Nick is really supportive of me and my career and we enjoy looking at horses together. I think we have a really huge respect for one another about the way we handle horses and the way we look at horses and when I told them, I said, you know, not for nothing. I do have my trainer's license, and he made the decision to support me and get me started. Tell me more about thorough stock in the facilities and the work that you guys do there. So.

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