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When the Demons Came Out /// Part 2 /// 460

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When the Demons Came Out /// Part 2 /// 460

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Yes of support the show and look fabulous dealing it and that is enough of the bs all right. Everybody gathered around. Grab a chair. Grab a beer. Let's talk some true crime. Tina marie harmon was a twelve year. Old girl who was abducted raped and murder. She was last seen on october. Twenty ninth nineteen eighty one. After being dropped off in front of a store to join some of her friends after the discovery of her body she was later. Buried at maple mound cemetery and nineteen eighty two ernest holbrook. Junior and herman ray rucker were convicted of both the rape and murder of tina harmon. All right but just like the great lee corso would say captain not so fast. That's right because after the trials two of the four witnesses who helped to send both of these guys to get convictions. Life sentences in prison recanted their testimony. Which ones all right. So two of the four and that does not really even begin to tell us about the trouble with one of the remaining witnesses who still stands by their testimony against rucker. So i i wanna go through this one witness. It's going to stand by her statements first. And then we'll we'll tell you which two dropped out. Remember susan sigler. She is the one that said. Hey rucker confessed to me that the two of them killed this girl after. She refused their sexual advances or rucker sexual advances right. He even showed me a picture of tina harmon. And this took place. According to susan sigler on october thirtieth the day after tina harmon went missing now at rutgers trial ten people. Ten people testified that sigler is a liar and that her testimony is not credible right. Three witnesses called sigler a storyteller eager for attention. This was the testimony of two former husbands and her aunt. So i get it. Maybe we got some angry old ex husbands. That are like yeah. She's a liar. Don't believe her but we have our aunt as well. A family member saying right toward teller eager for attention. We also have three west. Salem police officers who testified that sigler had a reputation for not telling the truth. Police officers police officers Ten people in total said the woman is a liar. Ribot like we said and yesterday's episode you throw out her it. Look if i'm on the jury okay. She's liar so now. I don't buy her story. Maybe i don't buy the other eyewitnesses story. The only story i have to buy is when maynard says these guys drove me to tina's dead body and showed me the dead body if i believe that with no physical evidence there guilty you throw them in jail and throw away the key but a portion of his witness statement is the same as susan. Sigler's right so i get what you're saying. Yes maynard's testimony is certainly the most damning of the four. But if you're going to believe maynard then you have to believe at least some of what sigler saying or all of it now did want to read some of the testimony given at the trial and again this is from the ten different people's perspectives. These are the ten people that say. You cannot believe this witness this. This susan sigler who seems to be at the center of of these allegations against both of these men. Yeah they're saying she's a line ship balloon. Well that sums it up nicely. But i do want to go through this so number one. What is your opinion of susan. Sigler this comes from ivan. Grubbs says quote. She won't tell the truth. This is all on the stand in front of the jury. Mind you number two. What is mrs sigler reputation. For telling the truth. This comes from the testimony of james fitzsimmons. Quote not too good number three. What is mrs sigler's reputation. This comes from earl conway. Quote doesn't tell the truth. I would not believe her under oath. I would not believe her under anything. She has lied about me. She has accused me of being involved in this case with tina harmon. That if you hear that on the stand yeah like this woman accusing these other two guys. She's also accused me of being involved in. Look the state's not putting together a case against me number four. This comes from andy. Tam byrne said quote. I don't like her very much. Never did she lies. Number five from. Mary canfield quote. Everybody knows her. She never tells the truth and quote. This is also the same stuff that they're going say at her eulogy. No but like going back to yesterday again. You know. I i call these guys Goat turds or something like that. When have you ever seen a lineup. Shot or mugshot. When have you ever seen a lineup. Shot or a mug shot or two individuals that are at trial but they looked shoveled when they not look guilty right right. That's i never. I mean it's just like if you look at like Damien echols and west memphis i. You can't polish that third well. He looks dishevelled. And then you put a tie on him. He looks even more disheveled. And so you go. Oh okay i can see how that individual would be guilty. Well and a lot of that comes from the preliminary or the the arraignment process where you see okay. This guy was arrested yesterday and now first thing in the morning the next day we bring him in front of the judge to explain you have to. You have to tell them what you're charging them with. Why why you are holding them right and what they're going to be charged with. They look the shoveled because they spent the whole night in jail. This was their first night in jail and they're usually wearing an orange or red jumpsuit. And that's why with winning cuffs right when it comes time for their actual trial all right. Let's let these guys shave. Get a haircut. Let them put on a suit if they want to wear a suit. Because if you marched every person out for their trial looking like that. I think you get a conviction ninety nine percent of the time while on what i'm saying is if you look at these court hearings. These guys are not dressed up in blazers. They didn't cut their hair. You'll see that from time to time. Where the defense is gone. Hey we gotta clean you up. And it doesn't seem like they did that in this case but that's also why You have individuals. Like scott peterson that you know are kind of. They seem more put together and people see images of that and go well. That guy doesn't look like what we think. A murderer would look like right. A crazy person and the person would have to be crazy in order to do this. Horrible crime when i think we should point out. In contrast to scott peterson someone who went to college. Played golf all the time. I mean just those two things start to give you a little perspective of the person or at least of what he may appear to look like These guys mind you. This is more than twenty years earlier than right. In scott peterson. These guys lived in small town ohio. They were farmhands they so they look like people that you would see working on the farm somewhere and their their version of my sunday's best is not the same as scott peterson who wants to be on every expensive. Golf course in in california right now remember. This is something that. I know that our garage friends are good garage listeners. They are super intelligent. And they are very much dialed in. So i know they picked up on this at the end of yesterday's episode. What they did a national poll by the way now. It's true that true crime garage listeners are the smartest of all true crime podcast listeners. Right so i know. They picked up on this but for the first time listeners. To make sure that. I point this out. Remember susan sigler the woman. That's not to be believed ten people testify. I don't believe her she's a liar and liar liar pants on fire. She testified that rucker told her at her residence. Okay at the place where. She's living on october thirtieth that he had killed a little girl showed her a picture of the girl and a showed her a necklace. The he took off of the victim. Remember curtis maynard backed up her testimony. Well first of all we have the coroner's office who conducted the autopsy and according to their findings. Tina was still alive at that time. Right there report was that she was killed between twenty four and thirty six hours before her body was found at nine. am on november. Second story makes no sense correct so it just scientifically does not work now. Let's add to that. Susan sigler's landlord testified. That susan did not move into that location where she says rucker confessed to her until the first week or so of november so scientifically it doesn't match up and to the location cannot be correct because she was not residing there at that time. Then we have ruth court right. Who stated that rucker and holbrooke were at her house on the night of october thirtieth right so they can be there to confess right because they were with ruth court right and she went on to say that tina harmon was not at my house on october. Thirty th right and they also have alibis. Let's remember they have alibis for around the time that the corner thinks tina was murdered. Yes so we're going to extend that out a little bit doesn't it doesn't in detail cover that exact twenty four to thirty six hour window but it but it kinda does. I'll i'll read to you what we have. Okay so we have ruth court right. Who says that she that rucker and holbrooke were at her home. On the thirtieth. Not at sigler's home. She goes on to say that for the most part rucker was either at work or at home with her from october. First until november ninth that he went to work during the day he came home and he was home at night right now. This does not certainly does not account for every minute of every day but what what picture this paints is that the window of time he would have to abduct murder and rape and dispose of a body and also starting to very small right and he also has to have her put somewhere and between that time period between thursday and monday correct and holbrooke sister the other guy who was convicted. His sister testified that he was at her wedding on the night of the thirty first so the window of time gets smaller for this suspect as well. Okay so both of these convictions are going to fall apart soon. After holbrook and rucker were convicted. Susan sigler was convicted herself. She was convicted of filing a false rape claim. Looks like the state of ohio has now learned what was already said about sigler at the trial that this was in fact correct that she is not to be believed. She's not credible. She lies and she is not to be believe well and she was also the only eyewitness and The trial. I was up for the long dong murders. She's only i witnessed so they threw that out. I know people are wondering how i got off. Well then it was also discovered that she lied on her marriage license. This is this is a state document. Right this is a legal state document. She claimed that she had only had one prior husband. Who was deceased. When actually she had four ex ex-husband's all of them still alive and what what's funny about on her marriage license of about only so hurt her statement on her marriage licenses. She had one prior husband and he's deceased yet at the trial for rutger. Two of her ex husband's testified that she was a liar right. That's s okay. So the other witness curtis maynard on my face her. He is the one that we both agreed. Had the more detailed the more damning testimony against both of these individuals. He is one of the two witnesses that recanted his testimony. He said and he claims that he was pressured and threatened by stark county. Detectives to point the finger at rucker and holbrook. For tina's murder maynard who according to records has an iq of seventy one went on to have his attorney file a forty eight page report. This was a sworn statement stating deputies. Threatened to have him jailed unless he implicated rucker and holbrook maynard alleged that he was paid ten dollars and promised that a petty theft and a pending probation violation and medina county would be dropped in return for specific testimony. I can't speak directly about the ten dollar bribe. I've done worse things for ten bucks jail time threat or the alleged favors favors. However according to the courts and sworn statements given to county detectives maynard gave five different stories regarding what he witnessed and what was said to him. In fact much of these statements would directly contradict the other statements. So he was jesse. Ms kelly before jesse. Ms kelly was jesse must kelly. Yeah and then listen to this. One statement implicated rutger and holbrook the two guys that were tried and convicted. But it also implicated two other people one of which was susan sigler and he also went on to say that the fourth person who i will not name. Because we know it's not this is not a credible count. He was named in the paper which i felt bad form but It was claimed in this statement which we know not to be true that he was involved in in the rape of this little girl as well. So what you're seeing here is. I mean it's really. it's almost like law enforcement. Thought okay we have. Maybe they had a couple of credible eye witnesses that thought they saw two men that look like these two individuals and then we have to build a case around it. Okay we get this known liar. While she's probably not going to hold up but if we can get her friend to say a little bit more. 'cause he's not the brightest candle we have a case then and like and that's what we we said. Yesterday you throw out everybody's eyewitness testimony doesn't matter you stay with maynard's you can still get a guilty charge so luckily herman rucker was granted. A new trial. He was acquitted by a jury on june sixteenth of nineteen eighty three. And we always know how these things seem to work and this is no this. This of course is a shot at the state of ohio. However we've seen this go on and just about every other state it makes no damn sense but ernest holbrooke salt. He was looking for a new trial as well. But oddly enough. His requests were repeatedly denied so he remained in prison. That's so dumb. Eventually hallberg's conviction was set aside and the charges against him were dismissed. This was in may of nineteen eighty four the following year so both rucker in holbrook were either in jail or prison from february nineteen eighty two until the time of their release dates one in june of eighty three and the other in may of may of eighty four so holbrooke spent over two years and either jail or prison for a crime he was simply accused of but did not commit curtis maynard later. This is bizarre to curtis maynard. Later was convicted of perjury for his false testimony and he spent thirteen months in prison. Yeah i have an issue with that because it's almost like law enforcement forced the perjury. Yeah it looks to me like So then ziggler put him up to it. And then the the county detectives twisted his arm into saying what they wanted and accusations aside. What we see here is what we've seen. In several other cases that are similar to this. He gives five different statement. Why because he gives a statement that is false because he doesn't know anything about the crime he's not a witness to anything in real life brain and when it doesn't match up with some of the evidence and some of the known facts of the crime the detectives need him to write a new statement right. But that's when the detectives need to not be goat targets and to do the right thing and step away and say hey look. This story is not matching we were. We can't make it fit right and it's sad how. How often they don't step where they don't do the right thing there. They think they're doing the right thing. They're trying to get justice for this little girl. Well and then you have to factor in as well. We have the two witnesses that say. I'll clean this up and give a little more detail here. But the two female witnesses say that they saw a girl anna vehicle with two men and she appeared to be struggling. It was a mother and daughter. And i don't know which one but one of them recanted their testimony as well. But if you wanna take that a step further you also have to figure out what's going on here when they told when they offered up this tip to the police that led them to rucker and holbrook through susan sigler they simply gave a description of the men of the girl in the they didn't say holbrooke rucker did this. It was not until after holbrook and rucker were arrested. That they're now able to pick them out of a photo lineup. You see because didn't have those photos to put in the lineup until the arrest was made right is a chance. Could've seen these guys pictures on in the paper by the time. They're they're picking them out of a photo lineup. yeah or what. We've seen from a famous documentary murder. Were they shown those pictures before the lineup by law enforcement. That's none of atta left field accusation. Because we already know that they heard i witness testimony. That didn't make any sense and then kept working with that individual to get their statements to line up with evidence that they did have. We went through a lot of stuff here to trials three actually three trials. Nobody got anything right. Everything was wrong. People spent time in jail in prison. That didn't need to and then we send this guy off to prison for perjury. I don't totally agree with that either. So we are right back where we started here. Captain and unsolved homicide with no suspects A sears mates wherever you're listing whether you're listening at home or you're listening at work sheers to everyone in cheers to you. Colonel cheers to you. Captain on july seventeenth nineteen eighty. Two krista. harrison was snatched from a baseball field across the street from her home. This is going on while all this circus is going on. Trying to convict these two guys rucker and holbrook. So krista harrison is taken from this baseball field. This is across the street from her home. Captain she was there collecting cans with a twelve year old friend. His name is roy. Roy later told police that around five pm. A dark colored van pulled into the park. The van had bubble shaped windows black seats and a roof vent yet as bubble shape. Windows were real popular in the seventies. Yeah this is early eighties so if you look up pictures of rucker who we've already talked about. He's wearing like a leisure suit when he goes to court as the captain said this is not like a mini van. Back then this would have a regular size van a little bit bigger than a minivan but these bubble windows. Usually they were tinted. yeah and they. They would bubble out from the sides of the van. And they were very popular in the late seventies and maybe even early eighties at tinted or normally filled with weed smoke. But if you look at harrison she could be a cousin. Or sister of tina harmon. Yes they both are about the same age now. According to roy the driver climbed out and approached krista. The man was white and said to have looked to be about twenty five to maybe thirty five years of age. He was skinny with a mustache. Had dark hair. Dark brown hair that curled near his shoulders. Roy said that the man looked italian. The man said something to christa. Roy could not hear what was said. Crista then went over and sat on some bleachers. This would be facing the baseball diamond. The man then sat down next to christa. He's talking to her and apparently he reached underneath her blouse. Then krista started to cry. The man again whispered something to the girl. Roy again could not hear what was said but at this point. Krista walked to the man's van open. The driver's side door climbed in the vehicle sat down between the front bucket seats against the i. Guess she's sitting on the floor. At this point the man then climbed in as well and he leaned out the window and said something to the effect of by roy and then he pulled the van out onto the road and then sped away. that's the long version of what went down that day at the park. There is a shorter version that comes from other witness. This would be a little girl female witness who says that she believes that she saw a or purple colored van matching the description. That roy gave with the the bubble windows'. She thought that she saw the man. Grab krista and drag her into the van. I cannot explain to you. Captain anybody else why we would have two different accounts of what took place that day. My guess it might be simply vantage point. We're talking about a park. We could have one witness much further away than roy who seems to have a more detailed story. He then runs home and explains what he saw. But he saying that this perpetrator said by roy. Yeah he thought that the man said to him. By roy or goodbye roy which is weird. Because it's not anybody that he recognizes we can tell that by the his given description of the man he's simply describing the man if he knew the guy had say it was john. That did this right. He's frightened like visibly shaken wind. Police show up to take his report. I also wonder if there's a certain level of shock factor involved here for both of these witnesses. Both of these witnesses would be eleven twelve year old kids. This is bizarre. Because you have. This situation did is much much different than the tina harmon situation. Tina harmon. She just kind of vanished. she kind of disappeared. No one said that they saw her screaming or getting pulled into a truck or van or that. They saw her leave with any particular person in this situation. We have what is clearly an abduction and it's known to be an abduction right when it goes down There's no question about it so you have a different response. That's going to come with this. Police are on of course high alert they're going to be looking for christa the van and this man so they offer up description and a composite. Sketch is put in the paper. There's actually two of them to composite sketches of you know slightly slight variations of the same man but they're going to be looking for this man for christa and for the van also at the same time. Because it's known it's a known abduction. Police are also thinking that they might receive some kind of ransom request. Ray of course. They're going to do their due diligence. They're going to monitor the phone lines for the family at their home and sadly no ransom request comes in and now we have an abduction. The hours are going by the days. Start to go by like you said. Maybe it is a good thing to know from the onset that this is a deduction so we can take it with a certain level of seriousness but also a certain level of there's a timeframe and the this would need to be searching for her and to fine evidence Right away yeah. It was not until six days later that they're going to find her remains sadly and by this point captain. The remains were in advanced stage of decomposition. The body was discovered. This was just off of a road. That's not well traveled This was discovered by. I believe a turtle trapper. Somebody was going out to either check their traps or set up traps. That's one of my hobbies on. Facebook considers interest turtle trapper. What is bizarre here is that there's it's listed in the papers as the her body was found either next to or inside of an abandoned garage and i thought i always thought with this case how weird to have. It's either beside or inside of this abandoned garage now. The way that i was able to clean this up was i was able to find one source stated that the body was actually located inside the abandoned garage however it was it was a rather large structure and it had no door because i always found it to be weird that this turtle trapper guy would just quote unquote stumble across a body if it were inside of this structure so i believe that what we have here is that he probably spotted something. Funny spotted something weird and went in to investigate. There's no large garage door on one side of the structure finds the body of krista lea harrison. Your said. it's an advanced stage of decomposition at this time. Warren possibly you know the smell led him there. Yeah and i guess that there were. There was all kinds of like trash and discarded items in the area as well now. I'm not super familiar with this area. This was a as said a scarcely traveled road and holmes county ohio so maybe this is an area where people litter or things like. This would collect but there were a lot of items that were found around her body. Like always whatever pictures we have of the case we will be posted on. Instagram of all is on instagram at true crime garage. But when you when you take a look at this garage. Kind of looks similar to our logo Obviously it doesn't have a door on it but it's very beat up very rundown yet and so a better description here is. The body was found at about seven thirty pm on a friday in an abandoned garage on washington township road four six four this is described as a dirt residential road that runs its way through cornfields thick portions of woods turtle pond and this is northwestern holmes county so it makes sense that this turtle trapper would be in the area. What was weird to hear captain. Was that an eyewitness says that they saw a man in this general area around this you know abandoned garage who left in a vehicle and this would have been the morning of win. Her body was discovered. Her body was discovered at seven thirty pm that night. Roosevelt cove and no it was a car Description it was listed as a caucasian male in his twenties or thirties and he was in a car. I a better description of of the car. I could not find what is weird here. Okay so when they do the autopsy and when they're when they're scanning the crime scene the dumpsite they start to put together a lot of stuff real quickly. They're able to figure a bunch of things out first of all the autopsy. It was discovered that they believe the victim was killed relatively quickly. After the time that she was abducted krista harrison one issue that they had with the autopsy itself was actually identifying the body. It was in such of a advanced stage of position that it was difficult to identify the body. Now horrifically what. The parents in the family had to see in the paper for three days. Usually when you have these types of situations a- bodies discovered and it's within about twenty four hours. They're saying we've made a positive identification of the remains here. It was for three days that they could not determine if one hundred percent it was krista harrison or not this is by both visual identification but also methods that are more scientific. And we'll get into that but what. The parents had to here for three days on the radio on. Tv and in the paper was the at that time. They say it was a female victim. It was believed to be chris. Harrison and the remains were clothed wearing the same clothing that krista harrison was wearing when she was abducted from the park right and this is listed as a pair of shorts and a white and blue football jersey like shirt so horrific for the parents for three days. They have to hope and pray. It's not our girl right but everything says it is yeah things pointing to that. It is her and where we have. The delay is because it took some time to get dental records and once they were there with the victim and then the comparison it just took a little bit of time more so than than usual regarding the other information that they were easily able to figure out was that the body was an advanced state of decomposition because the victim had been wrapped inside of a plastic bag. This would be like a large. I'm guessing probably larger than trash can. Normal trash can size trash bag but after death the body was placed in this plastic back and they believe that that must have been stored somewhere hot for several days. Because they had information scientific information. And i can't point to exactly what but they believed the victim to have been killed shortly after the abduction. Mind you six days go by before the victim is found. The body is found. They had evidence to that. Suggested she was placed there where she was found that same day within twenty four hour time period. We also have the eyewitness. Saying i saw man leaving that area that morning right so you have further evidence that possibly was placed there that morning and then found that night at seven thirty so they say that the victim must have been the body must have been in a hot place stored in a hot location for a period of days inside of that plastic bag. They actually believed that. It was probably most likely a the trunk of vehicle because keep in mind. This is this is july. it's going to be hot. And they were able to determine that the remains were inside that plastic bag for that entire the entirety of that time until whomever disposed of the body drug the body from the trunk of a vehicle. You know through the grass in the weeds and and a little brief period field and then placed it inside of the abandoned garage. They were able to determine this. Because there were drag marks on the remains itself there drag marks on the ground and the plastic bags started to come off of the remains. They also located several other items of interest in the area. So of course the the bag is going to be of interest to investigators but they also found a budweiser tau a bloody car. Seat box Wad of the victims hair. They found gloves a plaid shirt. And a pair of jeans were found in the vicinity of the dump site while and like you said there's so many items that were around this area. The i'm guessing. There was some kind of friends at work to be done to to determine that these were actual pieces of evidence. Yes yeah to make sure you know you separate just debris and litter from actual items of value to your investigation. What was really bizarre here. Captain was a statement. The law enforcement put in the papers at the time. They said that the the clothing the shirt and the jeans or the pants then they could not say for certain that they belonged to the girls killer But they could say that they belong to the person that the place the body in that location. Brian because we we think the descriptions of this individual or the same but obviously he was indifferent vehicle so he could have paid somebody to dispose of the body. You're or was in cahoots with somebody. Yeah so some very interesting stuff here. I don't know how they could determine that the clothing belong to the person that placed her there but could not say that it belonged to her actual killer. But what you have here. Catherine is almost a It's a complete dumpsite where we're now going to try to hide and conceal the remains of the victim and the perpetrator is also like dumping items. That were involved in the the crimes itself clothing this this car seat box a pair of gloves. It's almost like the killer d.'s. Disposed of the victim and then disposed of any evidence that they had on them. Everything that the the he thought had to do with the crime. I'm going to get rid of that as well. I don't know why a perpetrator wouldn't take the extra time to place these items elsewhere. It seems a little counter intuitive or counter productive to to the the purpose of concealing the body but maybe they thought that none of these items would be found or that they wouldn't be found for a good deal of time or maybe this witness the person that says that they thought they saw man in a car leaving that area maybe that witnessed spooked the perpetrator or the person that dumped the body and they were rushed out of the area brian. So let's go through some of the things that were found at the scene here captain from the litterbug correct so i we know one hundred percent. It's a little questionable about these other items right but we know for a fact immediately that this bag is part of the investigation. It's evidence in this investigation because they could tell that she was in this bag and then dragged to this spot in the garage so he used the bag as a way to transport the body. Yeah and probably an attempt to hide the smell a little bit too and and also you know evidence will fall off of this body. You don't wanna falling off in the trunk of your vehicle and this bag. They can confirm that. It's related to the crime one hundred percent because it's shown it's found in a state of of where it's falling apart because she was dragged to this spot. So part of the bag is still on the remains win. The body is located now. This bag apparently was pretty unique in the sense that it had a certain pattern in thickness to it. That were not common to just your standard trash bag. The bag itself was traced to a Having been manufactured at a factory in pioneer ohio these types of bags were used for packaging material and packaged for Car seats and such what was interesting was they. Were also able to determine that this type of packaging was only used on black vehicle seats on black carseats. What are how they were able to determine that maybe the manufacturer that made the car seats only made them in one color black hair you used this type of packaging sold them. But what's interesting about that. Is we have our witness roy. Who says not only was it a dark colored van but i could see the tops of the seats for my vantage point and the seats were black in color right so this is all starting to match up and these seats who these vehicle seats were sold through the old sears company. They were only available for a period of time short period of time. Now the the box. We mentioned the box what they were able to determine about. This piece of cardboard box is that it contained the victim's blood. What's in the box within the box. So here again immediately. We know this is connected to our crime. This is going to be further evidence. That type of box was again part of packaging for these types of seats. Bright so these are like seat covers correct. So they're starting to wonder like whoever used this material to conceal the body and then dumped the body they either were purchaser of these types of seats or had access to this these materials at a later date after somebody else. Purchase seems right. What they discovered was only about twenty three twenty four people in northern ohio. Which is the area of the crimes had purchased this type of car seat. The problem here is when they go to look into this. They got you know about two dozen people to look at none of them own vehicle. That matched the abductor vehicle description. Yes so this is really fascinating to me. Because both crimes The the harrison crime in the harm in crime and the harming crime. Both crimes were about fifteen miles away in very similar. You know A remote road dumping of the body but not trying to bury the body not trying to really hide the body that well but what we have is the one case. We have two guys on trial and they were convicted. Yeah and so people in this community had to be thinking one. It's happening again or two. They got the wrong guys behind bars because this seems like a a serial murderer. Yeah you have crimes that are taking place within a time period of less than a year from one. Another right within fifteen miles. Roughly of the to you. Compare the abduction of to the last known sighting of harmon. You end the victimology is the same. They're the same age they're girls and there. We have a same situation of one went missing. One went a was abducted and there's a period of days before the remains are found. But i also believe if we think that harmon went missing from the truck. Stop what is the truck. Stop a highly highly traffic area. We have people in the area. This person that took harman has no fear of being seen what we have in the harrison case. Not only was this individual that took harrison not afraid of being seen he also said by roy. Yeah he's a delayed or something to one of the witnesses. I mean this is A predator that you do not want out on the loose this is. This is an individual that is not afraid of taking his chances to to get a victim. So picture this if your someone in this area and you're smart individual like many of our listeners. You're going okay. Victimology the same locations the same within a year of one another similar type crimes. These got to be connected however will they can't because two guys are on trial for the first one. They're both locked up at the time of win. Krista harrison is abducted from the park right. And then you start hearing that two people are going to recant their testimony. They convicted one of the guys. And you're going a similar crime happened while these two were locked up. There's something very strange going on here. And like i said you could put a picture of these two girls side by side. They could be sisters cousins. I mean very similar as far as victimology. Shortly after krista harrison's body was found a thousand dollar reward was placed for information regarding the abductor remember. We have the ka pa composite sketch in the newspapers at the time of the man that police believe abducted krista harrison from the park. Sadly even with this money being offered up and a composite sketch in the papers. They're not getting any leads of use at this time for everything true crime garage. Make sure you go to the website. Crime dot com follow us on instagram facebook twitter at true crime garage this week. Captain i wanted to recommend to everyone our show off the record little recommended listening. If you will the only way to get off the record is to get stitcher premium and this is something that we don't dive into too much here but you're getting a lot when you sign up for stitcher premium one. 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Planets, Stars, and Space. Oh My!

The Mindless Morning Show

2:00:43 hr | 8 months ago

Planets, Stars, and Space. Oh My!

"You're now been for the minute morning show. You're making doll. Hey everybody welcome to another episode of the mindless morning show and today we are going to be talking about space at the scary shit that it is because it. It's it's horrifying in its terrifying. And i know it's also a wonderful beautiful but it's fucking scary so we're going to get into that in a different theories about space and some mindless stuff about it and you know how we do it is what it is but we are going to start off with a shoutout first of all real quick josh. How are you. i'm doing great. I'm i'm doing guys with me. I don't know whatever happened to i. Don't know what is forgot what his name was. I don't remember that inside the guy that was just over there on the couch like hey like pretended that we were joe rogan. So i asked somebody to look something out. Nobody next to me. It was like what i thought he was still there. But we have a shoutout for our good friend horsera- who was on the show just recently at one second everybody my daughter show me a picture that she made for me because i told her to come and show me. It's a dancing in a rainstorm. Yeah it had to happen. It had to i mean you know. That's an exclusive right there. You guys got food. Oh it's perfect thank you. You're getting ready for right. Of course he has to be wonderful. Excellent anyways that's like you know the kind of gas like get you trip and if it's a mushroom yeah that's great nasr my nine year old but we I want to to her. He was just on the show with us for our mindless mineta. Said we did. We'd really last week. It was super fun. And hopefully you guys have check not have checked out his twitch. He's been streaming a lot since the episode. He's just he's a good dude so when it out off to him on that note really quick if you have seen it There is like a newer format innovate. It's not like you don't have the frames in the video. Pictures are bigger. They're not distorted by being angled for different perspectives so If you guys have seen it let me know you like that. Let let us know if guys like that more. Because i'll just take to do that way. I have a new program. So because i kind of had an issue joshua hill change for you. He's that he's a pushover. He'll change for you if you bend over and say one more time daddy okay. That's on right now. You okay so onto that. We were yeah so once again for. Hey really glad you on the show man. It was it was a lot of fun. And we'll have you wanted in the future for sure but going are noteworthy for In between last week in this week not a whole lot has happened except for thanksgiving which was everybody had some type of nowhere around that. I'm sure mine was really chill. But we didn't do a whole lot. We went to my mother-in-law's house in. She has her own like rescue pet animal rescue but she has a lot of land so she also has cows and chickens goats and it's awesome chaos but unlike the best way so when you say pet rescues electrically just like dogs and cats or they're like crazy. An exotic animals are well. She's she's got a cheetah up on playing ownership. Daddy cool then she she mainly rescues dogs and cats however the she does have to cows that she just wanted. They needed a place and he's like got room and i won't tell so so she's got cows and chickens and goats and stuff like that that are just like it's like it's basically like like kind of like up and coming farm essentially but we went over there for thanksgiving and we ate a ton and it was amazing and awesome. They have so many cats and so any dogs. They've got a large house though. So that means there's room for everybody but it's like everywhere you look. There's something to pet and pick up and hang out with like it's awesome dude. It's a great time all dude. Yeah and like you said on the couch in give just a minute and something will consider lap. Not a person here comes a bit. Yeah so that's that's actually a funny statement that i can make you sit down on the couch before somebody something comes into your life. You can't say that every thanksgiving your comes weird uncle judd is. Don't sit on your lap. I mean there's people that have a weird uncle that comes on everybody's laughter on holders. Yeah all right. So that was thanksgiving. It's not essentially a it's because getting and it's something that we all did so we'll have some in congress and mine. I spent it with a bunch of animals. And i got the pedic cow again because every time we go over there get out. It's cool. yeah so anyway. I can just imagine nick. Would you like to bet the cow. Yes we had a super chill thanksgiving a. We just cook a lot like so much. I don i was gonna die off success every year off the goal. Yeah basically and Dude my neighbors had crazier thanksgiving. They were bumping loud. Blasts music for Jeeze late late late late. Who parties late on thanksgiving. What's their level of redmi. The ladan snow the latin party late on one thirty. 'cause we didn't realize but like the next morning after thanksgiving Went back in. I let the dogs out. I look over. And i noticed my fence just wide open my oh shit so like i quickly run over the gate to go close. 'cause i don't run. Do they will hall as yeah my. I don't have the energy to get them anymore. And in fact fat. Yeah did it there. I guess this dog anymore. Yeah your loss. Now mind you yell at out for mental come back. Yeah god day basically so it really bothered me. Because i knew the night last the prior night i had gone through the gate to go throw a bag of trash away and i knew closed. One hundred percent knew in my head. I closed gate. Yeah those really bothering me that it was left up. I was like. I feel like maybe somebody like tried to come back here. So right which might security cameras Investigated and a half two. I at the time didn't find anything. I was still kinda because like trying to like kind of skim sir. Bided right a wife. She ended up sitting there in watching a majority of then. She finally seen what happened. So i guess somebody called the cops on them and it was an officer that came through but i mean orange county police department listening. You get it together man if you look in. Somebody's gay closed. This shit people had dogs and you are creating an essential problem there. So that's true that's as you said. Email the formal complaint. Yeah they'd be like Okay whatever it's all right. I got their pictures. And what if need video or show what you did. Yeah well luckily. Luckily it didn't turn into anything terrible. Yeah so is are you. Didn't i mean it was one thirty. Am and like. I'm i'm laying in bed. I still heard a like. I still heard music like going to do to. Jeez like i didn't necessarily care because as long as my daughter was still asleep where okay. Wow we are better person than most zandi pissed off. If i could hear the name trying to i mean may off-duty majority of anything. No well good for you. Josh de so for my next my next noteworthy is it's my last where because i didn't really didn't have that much of the crazy week and it's really only noteworthy because of how rare it is and how it kind of threw me off. I thought they were joking. When i heard this. But somebody that. I was at a job with attrition. He has never own a smartphone. He's only had flip phones and to this day as a flip phone and he's like in his mid thirties. Wow oh crazy. It seems crazy but kudos to him for like just keeping it real. Yeah i mean. Yeah like the first thing i'd said do whenever i told me that i was like. Are you married or something or by in. He's like yeah. I'm married and mike all right. 'cause i feel like if you words and you were like in the dating scene and you pull out that shit no baby. You wanna put your number in my razor special words phones because you can't get anywhere like he. S if he gets a new phone he wants a knoll. He wants a flip phone. That's what he wants i think. Maybe he just doesn't like the distractions the new arts on that flips open. The i just don't think he wants all that on his phone. I don't think he wants one. I don't blame them. Sometimes i it makes it makes sense. It's just really rare. So next time you see him should be like yo man smithsonian called. They want that cell phone probably. Oh wow cool cool dude. Yeah but yeah. He's leaders mid thirties. Like cool dude like we bullshit. I've seen. I've seen that jobs often. So i mean i see him every other week you know he is. He is a employee. He's he'll not for so we have a bill. That's right because you work with other construction company. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah so like we have like fourteen different builders that we'd be work for one of our one of our biggest builders. They're the electricians for that builder. So if we're at a job for that builder there's a chance he will be there. Yeah i imagine you run into a lot of the same people. The same subs. Yeah it's not like there's a thousand different fucking tradesman out there in the same area no yeah so it happens but it was. Yeah i just thought that was fun to share. It's pretty cool. So there was a few weeks back or a few episodes back. I'd mentioned i had gotten that pet. Hawk yeah yeah not not like a real pet like holy yet not like it's in my house or anything but like i see a combined very often and became back again and it's been hanging around still and Got some really really cool. Pictures octopus Discord sirker go. Let me got some pretty pretty nice pictures of he. He's a pretty pretty little man. Do you do you still you probably should if you don't but you post discord server link in the descriptions of all of our shit so all the descriptions we have our our our web site the link tree website thank brings you to everything including the discord silent outgrow. Yeah if you guys are gonna join our discord which we definitely encourage you. Check out the fun. it's fun yeah and it. It's on our website on our on the link tree it. It's all their average. Yeah we love you. I mean yes. I'll pose some there. A hopefully you guys will enjoy now. I before we get into like space space. I think he wanted to say a psa Yeah Kind of like a little bit of more. So what i was saying earlier so i got. My computer has been kind of on the fritz lately. I had an issue where the typical software that i was using for video. Editing is like no longer adult working whatsoever. So yeah i kinda had quickly learn a new program to make the midnight show It's okay it's pretty cool Stephanie pain but yes so things may be a little different. Things may take a little more time. I no longer have access to the templates anymore. I was doing with the mindless moments. So i'm going to upload the last bits that i do have and kind of take a hiatus until nine new computer comes in for that. So yes i do. Have a new computer ordered in going to be here sometime next month so that i can get the ball rolling on on everything again. And we'll be golden. I mean jesus. It's not like doing this for free. Yeah we are. Yeah. we're losers. Aren't we well to kick off our conversation about space. I will bring out the time that. I saw at least thirty shooting stars in one sitting. Now this happened you guys that are watching race right now. Yeah i like. I should do the podcast from space. You i mean you do. You are like fading in and fading out like a bitch but it's okay yes screener anything. Yeah well that's okay. I mean it's working somewhat well for greece during but all right well you can do it from space and i'll do it from the same damn moyes and wait. Tell me i could have done something. Josh are fine. Whatever minus morning. show okay. now it's a mind with more well. We're ruining this through the people that are so long guys. were listening. So that's pretty big accomplishment. Never been done before. Free podcasting for all right. Well we have on camera so for those of you. That have listened to the show veteran listeners. You know that. I used to work at a job as a overnight job at petsmart at a pet hotel where i basically walked around all night or basically did nothing all night and just took care of animals. Well doing this. Whenever i was off. I did not sleep at a normal time. I slept at like. I go to bed at like seven in the morning because it was an overnight job so i spent a lot of time outside and like overnight because of the best i would go off like in my town a small lake by kinda near the near the exit of our town. So they didn't. There was no curfew. No curfew in our town especially if you're over eighteen so i would go out to this lake and it was like three in the morning dude and i go out to this late and it had like a it has a path that goes around the entire thing i want to say. It's like three miles around the entire lake. I would just walk it at three in the morning up. You know i was. It was always so chill out. There is the best thing that silent. Yeah it was. It was like i was living a movie. Get here like easy to my head. Like bad ass music and i'm just like theme song with every step you take an or with you all right no so one night so who is watching you. Everyone route probably aliens now. One i got there. And i realized i had a blanket in my trunk. I'm gonna get super teenage drama guy and get my blanket and the little dock and lay on the dock and look at this at space and just rock with my earbuds than dude and just like rock on the dock for hours and just chill listen to music and it washes walk up dr hind year yet. No not in florida. You can't do that in florida. And i counted and i lost count after thirty shooting. Stars are seeing. And i'm like holy shit like this is so cool. And we're we're all of us at the pflueger ville texas. Which is outside of austin. Is it kinda like it's pflueger. Meal like a middle of nowhere kind of town like podunk town not not to like senate in a bad way but like 'cause not moore orlando. it's it's growing. It's growing a lot. Actually it's getting larger and is throwing more and more people going in any state used to be small but it's it's definitely getting big now so it's not like what you would think it's twenty minutes. Outside of austin with orlando dude. We have so much light pollution. There's just so much going on. So like when i when i look up around here i can only see so few stars in. It's really annoying. I mean. I hated because i one time i saw like a ridiculous amount of stars like as if i was looking at fucking milky wet so yeah yeah it was a ridable. I think on this show on a previous episode. You talked about that a little. Bit of my. Yeah whereas in a hot in montana. That was the best that that was your life teen age drama. Moment where you're at one of needs a hot tub which is not natural but still it was it was great for the temperature was outside because i mean thankfully the door from the hot tub to back inside was literally like five is outside. Yeah yeah that's incredible space movies me. like space the thought of it as a simple little loser guy Scary might want. And i know i know where it. We're typically like a more of an funny lighthearted show but when we talk about space. I don't know it may not be the funniest show but it's really crazy when you look at it when you really do get to look gaffe space. You know whenever there is a not a lot of light lucien. It'll really like you up in a good way in like a profound way. I mean so i guess i'd have to ask more so lake in in. What in what terms are you like viscosity. Okay i think really what it is. Is it scared me. Because i'm able to think about light. Okay if i was in space like as an astronaut. I won't be like shitting myself. Because it's a it's got poop chute vacuum. That's true but at the same time if you've seen the movie gravity where sandra sandra bullock is in that movie. And she's up in space with other astronauts in shit happens it's really glad. They ended up by their crashing in stranded in space and she ends up in a moment where she gets hit debris she breaks from her tether. She's flipping like slipping flipping flipping and she would literally never stop in. Its showed a first person view of what she was seeing. And it was like earth. Earth earth earth like black black earth black but it was like how do you like and another in. The astronaut was yelling into her intercom. Like you need a stabilizing. Like i'd be i'd be like no. I can't do anything done and like she. She had used her little clicking on her hand to shoot up. These little jet jet. Pack things stabilize yourself. But i don't know what show i was watching. It was something on netflix. I'm sure i think it was kinda like is very possible as a black mirror episode more it was an episode off of la death in robots which is actually really good There this woman basically as as well Ended up getting untethered from the spacecraft shoots working on yeah in slowly started drifting away from the spacecraft. So what she did because she had nothing to. I mean there's nothing out as there's anything yet there's no friction. There's no energy there to essentially stop you. You'll go forever. So to overcome that inertia she has to do something to counteract it in so the only thing she can actually do. She ends up ripping off her sleeve of her su- or arm freezes up. She breaks her arm off in. Shucks it at the opposite direction to give her a little bit of force pushing backwards towards an ad. Remember how it ended if she actually got got out because like mandate is that's insane ship. But from what i understand and god. I love being able to say this. Take everything with a grain of salt because this is the mindless morning show. We're not ducking scientists. Visha okay okay. So so then. I can't say that was some certainty if there is any imperfections in your suit. You're dead entirely like the way the radiation works with space. If there's a tear it'll just decay your entire body in your screwed on amana too much of how it will affect you. I know yours. I know you won't like exploded in space like some mood. Yeah because you fall apart the matter our not even your your skin can actually. You'll you'll stay. Intact can is completely able to handle the pressure variations in it. Will it won't deteriorate or anything like that We're so it's not really if you die in space to preserve a maybe but 'cause it's not cold and space either not not in our likes solar system of space in a sense because sunday is fuck it even for the astronauts when it's a lot lot hotter for the astronauts hotter than it is here on earth of course closer. Yeah exactly so. I mean they. That's why their suits are whipped. All these special things like their backs the sun. The inmates will be damn near on fire. So i i don't know how it would really react with you In in hindsight essentially volunteers. Yeah i mean. I'll give it a shot. Sure is just go out in space. You'll be tethered to thing. And they'll just let you die of starvation. Are i wanna be set up like just before the nukes go off. So that i have a really nice view of destruction in the end bitter sweet symphony. Like what a bitter sweet like position to be in where you could like watch the destruction of your entire world and there but everything you ever ever known in your gone right before your eyes and you watch it and then you get the drift off into what nothing no i mean. Essentially i mean if you have enough oxygen to last you. Essentially the the blast from earth. I mean i would imagine causes. Some bit of force outward that would maybe you quite hit some shit who of of only women already give fuck inside and roast w-we land landed on a planet of women. Sounds like some stupid low-budget bullshit movie about the third of futurama smooth. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah that's a good episode announced feature on that is such a good show like talking about space. It really is actually while we're on the topic of lake television in space. I think the closest The realistic in terms of like how things are would be apollo thirteen like with it Can talk at a stroke. So i guess it is the most accurate but more like the physics of space. Yeah so apollo thirteen on. I've heard two thousand one. Space odyssey is pretty accurate. I can't personally say Because i haven't seen it in also contact. Those three are like the more realistic of them star wars star trek not so much Stalls dotted pretty right like explosions and stuff. Yeah you don't see that kind of like you won't see a laser in space like there's essentially the light there's nothing for monitoring what would space combat look like than in a realistic setting. Probably pretty frigging amazing. I mean so. Like i said with lasers you're not gonna see in space because there's nothing for the light to reflect on phones for you to see so if a laser ish shot you're not gonna know unless it's like a solid physical projectile then i mean like if we were to shoot like a a are in space like evidence going to go forever most indefinitely forever until something because there's no friction out there is nothing happens no energy acting on it. It'll keep gone. Yeah exactly so. I mean that's pretty cool and i don't i don't know man i don't know what kind of there was. A video is seen recently to some guy was talking about like he's been witnessing a space fights around the son. Our son was e-eh like dude. Got a fuck in ceuta blais telescope to do broiled rolls it out of his shed like. It's a big ass one a while you know i. I don't know whatever like some. Some of the footage shows like it just kind of looks like flares con what you would see like embers or something flying off a campfire now. Some some of these emperors would would be moving in ways that you know probably wouldn't 'cause like like tv depict set. They do those heart. Bank turns where they're like hall and ashtray than all of a sudden antica hard right. That's not possible. That's not possible in space our knowledge in our capabilities with our with our understanding of physics. It's just maybe shit. Compared to what other civilizations around the universe new percent dump without a doubt because they already have propulsion systems. That make a scratch our heads and like i don't know yeah that were interesting interesting and then like you know when you look at like stars in it. It's like looking in time almost because the way like how light travels through space and the nothing can physically like no matter. What like just by laws of physics doesn't matter like you can probably come. Really close are alien species wherever can product. I'm really close but nothing can travel the speedo late. It's by by the laws of physics impossible. I mean that that's where the is now. And that's really cool. Because i mean essentially if you wanna look look back in the future just look up to the moon at like the moon. The moon isn't anything crazy. Like when you look up to the moon it's about one point three secons in the past. Yeah though when you're looking at demand it's a second in almost a second and a half in the past of what it actually was so. Yeah i mean it would be a lot cooler because i mean our son is eight minutes so i mean you can't directly look at our son and that's why when the sun is rising for eight minutes you can look at it. I really light like like as the sun is rising. You can look directly at it for eight minutes and then it starts to fuck your eyes. You'll i mean it would make sense. I just like. I never really thought about how much time i look at net. Let's pretty cool yet. In the i mean mars At its closes is generally about three minutes on average throughout the rest of the time is twenty minutes but our nearest star is the more impressive one alpha centauri when you're looking at that one. You're i mean even with your unaided. I you're practically looking at four years in the past while light has been traveling for four years to get your internet star so i mean it. Something really cool like telescopes thing can figure it out a lot sooner. i don't. I don't know telescopes really Know how that works if telescopes can actually see it more so less than Pass or if it's just because of the unaided high or if it's just i mean it would make more sense that even with a telescope because essentially the light still has to travel to wear that scope is honor so it same thing So yeah probably. But i mean it would definitely be pretty cool if we can never find a way to see them more a more less in the past so that blew up take a look exactly so like if a star you know ten years away. Essentially ten years in the past is gone. it goes through its debt. Cycle would take ten years for us to be able to see the star in that state. It's incredible that. I'm eating as far as our knowledge goes. I think it's the star. Beatle beatle maybe it's called beetlejuice. I don i need you. I don't know like But at star. I think it's the one that's closest to being unstable and more so they would ever happen. I don't think we've actually observed a dying star yet. Yeah again. I have no idea that i mean i feel like in the grand scheme of how long stars live. We probably haven't you know what i mean. The how long they it's crazy. The life cycle of the stars just ridiculous granted. There's there's many many many stories Generally out i mean probably should've prepared for that Observed a dying sir. Hope you know what one thing that i i thought about. I've thought about a lot before is a theory about what would be insane if this happened after you died. Let's say you die okay. Which is going to happen. All it's a cycle of life whatever And you are still able to be you. Essentially you're still like a solar whatever your woodard. Whatever your conscious says it's no longer in a physical state you are now somewhat of a for lack of a better word. Ghost butts you can travel to like interstellar travel with your. You are new solar being. That isn't really a physical being but you could choose to stay on earth and be around the people that you left behind. Obviously you can't do anything to get their attention. You're you know you're dead but you could do that or you could look to the stars and go there and buy go there. I mean let's say you had some sort of ability that you get after you die where you can see star and essentially blake in your now at that point of reference in space boom. You're there and you can do the same thing with moons and planets the netherlands in anything you can see in the entire universe for one the fricking insane because you could travel do all stuff but you would never be able to go back so let me play on this a bit because when when we die i mean. We're not like a ghost or anything like that. Essentially were energy pariah energy and the most common things we know about energy is it cannot be created nor can it be destroyed yet and i mean when we die our our body might die but i feel like itself is what runs us and i feel like it's what had holes or consciousness like it takes form of a brain. Maybe you're saying there's the snead's absolutely but i don't. I don't look at it in our sense of like. You're just going to be like this. An orb concentrated or above energy year. Yeah i like your. It's more so like everything. 'cause i mean louis be reliant not to be like super hippy realistic whatever in a sense most pretty much almost everything in all things are connected in some sense mid may not be. Explainable may not be measurable But something that is is there. And it's i mean energy as a whole can have a conscious it could be that we're only were only in idea of consciousness energy. We're like like speaking. It would be like we are a simple form of what consciousness is and then once we die it would. It could almost be like it's an actual release of uber practically think you've just died and became a guy in the flake you would end up being able to see being able to in my opinion like the listener so they don't think lake. I'm saying this this is exactly what have else should. i have. No idea what actually happened. Of course. I like. The idea. Put quite honest. I still think it just goes black. Done dead that's it. Yeah but uh let. Let's let's keep on rolling with it. Because i liked the idea. Now if this happened in you died in your physical body was known more but you still had the presence of energy and you could still your consciences your memories. Everything was still incarnate. It was you obviously. You're just a spectrum energy. Now what would you do. Would you hang around. Or i mean travel the world as a spectrum. And then vince. I don't know what i could do but i would say easily like if that were the case where i could explore the vast universe i mean. Yeah i don't give two shits for anything else in this world. I don't care to go see all those states that are countries that i thought i wanted to see that i'm gonna. I'm gonna go this universe over here. I wanna go see. Those constellation. Like i don. Nothing here on this planet is worth waiting at sticking around for you have the entire open fucking universe but also. This would be a limitless thing. I mean it's not. Like if i wait around here are not going to be able to see nebulous and i know time is no longer a factor for you. Maybe but deal like energy still takes. Time does take time to travel there so that we can go around and that when we come back okay. Here's her it's not in their here. Let's say this is i. Yeah i mean. I would say time could still travel. I would say time could still move for them and regardless nothing nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. So it's going to take us for years to get over to alpha centauri when we come back then we don't know what happens in those eight years time right. Well you're gonna live further playful funny theory that you're fucking ruining list to look at a star and blink and be there whether that's totally impossible in your mirror. Knows maybe maybe know. Jonah's in in in a sense. You could look at it as a way of like. Now you're you become a part of like would you. Heart of space. Slow will open to sit in an analogy of like a big brain like the entire universe is a brain and you have all these different neural. Networks i mean your brain can fire off like that from anything and anywhere in your brain so somewhere blink in you could be in this different part of the brain or blink over here being that to prepare all simultaneously. Even with you pretty cool. How fun but how scary. Because if you still now let's say you still had you Conscious of what you thought was possible until you learn more of the universe or whatever essentially you get you could get loss. I would stare into a black hole for a very long time. Yeah saying like you can get lost and not like. Let's say you want to blink back in back in st kid. Maybe would yes. I maybe but like i said in the concept of like your brain like you can't could like you know what's in your brain you know all the maybe i don't know yeah i don't know that's that's what's so crazy about these types of conversations whether they're you know funny you're not entertaining in the sense that it's just crazy to speculate about what we will never know because nobody can give you an answer so it's to off the rails listening watching whatever. Please comment mess suggests. What are your thoughts on this because yeah not like. What are your thoughts on the theory in like. What kind of thoughts have you had or theories of your own book possibly happen on. Where open for everything i mean. I'm i'm always like dude. I always like anything i hear of. The act of an afterlife is so much better than what i genuinely believe. So i'm always open to listen. Yeah exactly so it's it's it's just so crazy that there's there's things that are so large out there that we have no idea anything about it and honestly it's it's making me so overwhelmed needed. We need to take a quick break. Can't do this or me before we take a break. Because i kind of like almost just noticed isn't like mine is can obliterated lee blown right now you have a different fucking shirt. Yeah so what happened. Was i grabbed this one instead of my other. Ones maryland's in there. But i didn't grab it. You broke the show got. I've got a break. The cycle eventually bro. I can't just everyone's going to scroll through all our episode. See you all shirt on white shirt. They're gonna be like that episode must suck. This might be different. Maybe actually be funny man. Listen who knows. Hey it's seen another shirt happens overnight on talk with basics extravaganza episode about space and stuff. Josh either take too seriously on tyrod. Thank you for talking. Your normal voice finally said that stupid. Oh children are now. Everyone dialer ribbons Attack dad number. This is this is the real you so this is hundred one hundred percent all right well arguing back to your big. That's going to be a big pain in the ass to edit equalization off. Now you ever seen a meteor shower like dinosaurs me. I've been in one dude. It was like firkin war. I was dodging and going crazy. explosions everywhere sharon texas. I like the little little meteors that hit your armpits liquidity. Putting them up. Which is you ever bathe in bulk. Nino like know i haven't in all reality I do feel like somehow when i was laying down on that dock and i saw over thirty That was close neither preventing consecutive ones. But it wasn't like a chaos like crazy amount. So i mean the ice seen a major twice One time remember the year But this is when. I live pretty much on spring run. We had a says name or do they call them like the neighborhood. Wash those like the main guy that can. I don't know like he's. He threw the most insane parties but one day the block. Captain maybe he. Volvos beagle admin The know it yet. I was outside and he came like driving by and he like it's late at night. He is just honking his horn constantly. There's a meteor shower. Look in this guy looking this guy in like yeah and otherwise and i looked up at doodoo cools contain. So madam as. I'm looking up and watching like you kinda see like it's like looking at nothing for moment in then like you'll see like a spark of light and as it gets brighter all the sudden it just trails off. Am i just keep coming in. They trail off all these different directions and our just like that. Is this real life yet. That was the worst bucking thing to say like. I suggest if you can ever managed to figure out when one is coming. Because i mean they'll you can look them. Oh yeah the if. There's one visible in your area dude. Highly recommend trying to trying to signal could crazy. Metoo is like the fact that people can predict that shit and like i know it cycles through our solar system but kudos. Everybody for like being able to do that. I imagine my dump self is like an old pre store not prehistoric. Someone somebody like. The you know the three hundred zero ancient egypt you at least have a smartphone starts true guys yeah but the fact that so many people over generations have been able to clock these. Like cow eater. Catalog been named him. I mean when we think of like the fact that like you can look kinda in time. But that's with things that are projected light. Yeah of course. We see an asteroid. I mean yeah. I feel like we should be able to track because i mean at that point. You're seeing it more so in real time. Yeah i guess i. I don't know how that works. It's amazing though like that's crazy calculations know that we've gone from like two stone look star to be like yes. This is the this is tolerant and it will come back again and seventy years. We we jumped from that shit. This in it's another like Soon so thousand years a comment will come this close to the year. Alexa fucking crazy when you think about where we came from two hollow here in regards to space. Won't i won't. I don't wanna say anything to Controversial but i mean the facts are gonna do it. It'll be you absolutely destroyed out like you can say whatever you say but it there's just pure fact surrounded so tesla was the biggest one of the biggest boomers if not debate in our advancements of technology now more so it wasn't consumer technology because it was too good was too good for a a slow little people's. Yeah but the nazis actually the ones that did a huge boost in our technology in knits. Because they hitler himself was very very intrigued with aliens. All matted that they're the ones helped with the bases in an anti yup can look it up. It's there it's out that's not all that controversial. I mean there's some people that are totally closed minded and just like they're like that at how it's it sucks that you can give credit in that department because i mean who wants to give credit to them. Nobody i honestly credit where credit is due. I don't get it i will. I will also say that a lot of the advanced governments afterward you were hiring nazi scientists on their payrolls because of their work. So i mean everybody was doing shady. Shit is just what it was. I mean you gotta do what you gotta do to get the technology that is could be potentially world changing. Yeah s whether or not we actually utilize it to change. The fucking world is different story. Who knows he'll be definitely doubt that we we have not and one thing about technology on kind of off office space just briefly but like many of those shows like how it's made and shit talk radio and it's like made dumb and you're like okay. Cool yeah like like all of those episodes. There's it's crazy. How many machines are that do. So many different student like the dumbest little job wrapping the tandy. Incense for the thing. I mean that. That's that's the one reason. I laughed very much. Everybody voting for the higher minimum wage. Because it just means. I now either gonna be expected to do a fuck ton more than they already do. Expect of you more. They're going to replace your They're gonna they're gonna replace with automation. It's already done studying machine. Rotana mac do you know how. How much i. I fucking hate mcdonalds. The one time. I did walk into a mcdonalds. They had like a little display. Do there is nobody in line. I didn't want to go talk to share a good deal machine. Because i already know already. No i'm not gonna have any slack. No bullshit no mistakes. Like i'm doing it like yeah. Sorry to say like if you take offense to be better. Well that's that's that's one of those cold hard treats man that there's no human error. You're going to get the same thing every time you all hidden. I won't say that there's no hughes near s. There's less yet a lot less human error because humans we program those machines we more or less so we we made them in fact if we could make a quick program machine to program other machines. Holy fuck i think. They've actually done. That's machine learning. I think it's already like well. Yeah there again. I know happening. The shrimp yes. You guys you guys are of the business. You're yeah but something. Invade of now. One thing that i recall all it's always it was like a it was like an actual legit question that we had our elementary schools leaning cheese. Tell you it is it. You guys never squishy now wants you to know. They want you to know that it's made out of cheese big conspiracy. She's actually what keeps everybody going. Those who are lactose intolerant. There who throw out there. I mean like we've mentioned this movie many times. 'cause beloved science. How the aliens. They are week to the water like burns. Their skin would Cheese to shoot now like like bullets little like string cheese so everyone. That's lactose intolerant. Go ahead and email us your social security numbers while my daughter's like us intolerance so that's not gonna happen. Yeah okay well. Clearly you just ruin the whole conspiracy. Because she's not named. I'm not convinced that the like we. We talked about this with with sony on the midnight. Show like possible that we've we've been infiltrating aids. That's right okay. Well those who hold screw. Are they talking about midnight show. It is a good one hybrid greedy. Yeah it is a good one two okay. Well i just remember like watching the watson gromit where they like go to the moon is made attitudes. Is you ever watched those oversee. The claymation i saw the one claimed me one of the curse of the where rabbit. I think it was call. That's the only wallace and gromit. I've seen other than that. I know nothing of the i we. I don't know why we watched them an elementary school. I it's nothing educational battle whatsoever. British dude around with his dog and his dog is really smart. And i always cry me up any time a week. We had like movie time at school people in mind. It was always yet because low listeners. I popped shuttle are a british listeners like that i know. I know one of one of our prisons listening. That's british. He hates it when talking to bridge this for you know will it is near. That's not bad. i totally understand. I told educated. Wow now that we've offended half of our loyal listeners just moving. I've only seen that one wallace and gromit. I'd love when it comes down to clay animation. I one hundred percent behind it. i love it. I love the work that goes into. I appreciate that phil so much more than just any regular fell like Kubo in the two strings. If you haven't seen it mugging check it out amazing film. I love it i did. I just all about claymation. Core aligned nightmare before christmas franken weenie. All of those are just yes. Notch and dude. Franken was doubt because i was black and white claymation. Now's crew shit. Oh yeah and then. A box trolls. That's another one. That one's crazy weird. I highly recommend you see that one. A walkie trolls suber weird dude in cancer. Whatever even heard of it. But i'm definitely yeah. It's it's very impressive. they're gonna love it. god strolls. We'll talk more about it off and show you some trailer. Whatever it's like a kids movie but it's totally you didn't do it doesn't adult to honestly i'm totally off track but like now that like with my daughter growing up in other watching like i have a thumb drive loaded up with pixar dreamworks all those movies allegedly and yeah dude we. I have a hard time picking what i want to watch. I don't even care if she wants a lot. She's she can't tell right. So like i'm sitting on mamedov i wanna watch Right we got everything you gotta. You gotta do box trolls then tomorrow. It's it's so funny yet. I'm definitely going to check this out. yeah sure you should especially if you like you really. You'll you'll be like this kid. Imagine the work that went into this name. it gets crazy gathered. I love looking at behind the scenes of that stuff. Bob totally getting off track. I'm sorry yeah yes okay. Space related that. I literally just thought of have you ever heard. I can't remember the name of the theory. Because i'm an idiot is mission space movie notice. No no it's a theory. And i don't know how much of that can actually. It doesn't really make a lot of sense but it's interesting. I liked planetary evolution. Theory that we are in a cycle of life and death with our planet and that mars is going to eventually become the next earth that we will have it. It's an it will go through all the same cycles that earth will go through and then it will be. We'll have to leave mars to go to the next planet in our solar system and it'll just continuously revolve and over in cycle and cycle in cycle with all of our planets. But they're all going through. They're all going through the exact same. Each planet is a different stage of destruction and recreation. Each planet is a different stage though erie and there are the it's all one planet essentially but all different stages it's so weird and i didn't obviously i didn't research it all before liaison. They kind of lost me at the idea of it. All being one planet though. If we're okay well maybe not one planet not one planet but but i guess each planet is like a different stage of creation and destruction or something that the actual physical mass of all the i. It's i dunno. It's dumb but some you to talk about. Because i recall i remembered it. I mean i can understand the idea of link it definitely being now. Okay so let me let me just kind of backtracking like just collect my thoughts here on this. Because i definitely wholeheartedly believe in hopefully in my daughters lives. Hopefully my lifetime. I will see man go to mars. I think we will. I think we will. I would love to see mankind. Inhibit mars and you know people are against it for whatever fucking reason. I have zero because you know what yeah one have more land in you need to move people. The moorland immovable moorland. You may land or something in some way shape or form you you you tariff form. It says we're going to do with mars because we're going like you know one thing that always sticks out with me is at. It was at disney or some like space. The final frontier holidays. Say that way from here. I love it. But that's what it comes down to it. I wholeheartedly believe mankind need need to tariff for mars. Because we're killing this planet were fucking stupid fucking beings not don't know any better yeah and as we have learned as we go along. We're learning okay. We're definitely fucking shit up but it's kind of inconvenient if we go back to our old ways now so tough shit. Let's just find another planet so instead of like trying to fix things here and just Okay so in. My mind is kind of weird. Because i feel like you know we're doctrine for the most part here in america most even most places. Maybe i don't know but why. Not get everyone to conform to a better Communist way when more at away of like you know this is the way to save us. This is the way to save our planet in mankind. Because i mean. I don't know there's just so many different like drinks like it's a never ending conversation that i could honestly have here but i i definitely i okay so let let me start with this. Do you believe like just base question. I deeply we've been to the I mean i haven't researched it but genuinely believed or a little skeptical. I mean. I feel like c. The thing when you. I feel like we have but then when you think about a winner was in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine in that. We've never gone back. I'm like i wanna say that we have because all right. What are your thoughts. Oh nineteen forties is when the big boom of like in space For was going on you know. I wholeheartedly believe we went to the and i wholeheartedly believe we have gone back many many times that we're not telling anyone because a when it comes down to it. We have samples of the mood. We know the moon is resourceful in in very rich in materials at arbor successful to us here on earth and yet and he's the idea of like it. Being considered cheeses comes from the fact that we basically damn near hollowed out the moon in resort mining for resources. We've been there plenty of times. We know we can make that are midway point from earth. Okay well it's not a midway point by any means but why mean i mean. It's definitely i mean it's it's not it's not to more so today i to get there in in a timely manner and like like we said you know there's nothing there that really stops you with the nursery. You just have to properly aiming but you're gonna kinda need a midway point in launch with preserving enough fuel to be able to get us in every fucking thing that you need over there. So in i mean have we started. Tear forming mars. Maybe maybe the prize me. Because i mean you're not going to build wrong day. Rome wasn't built in a day. And you're talking about inhabiting an entire new planet. He and i noticed that was a little crazy. It definitely could be a little crazy in way off the idea of actual truth but it something that i feel would definitely be necessary for mankind. Humans as a species shoe continue otherwise if we say on this planet no way. We're gonna on to pass anything along to. It's good that there's already. The ball is rolling in the direction of that you know again do and i love the idea of it and i find it so funny whenever while i kinda a lot of people that likes kind of shunned the idea of a space floors and it's not necessarily is the just sounds comical. Yeah it definitely does and like even even i chuckle at the of course. Because it's so important though. It's not to say that were immediately wanting to go out and space and blow shit up even though we probably are. It's not so much that it's we had no idea and if you have no idea what's on the other side you probably want a little bit of protection in milan. No more than we do or or the everyday people do because we'll sit. A lot of people will totally refuse the idea of any type of other species out there of of alien of intelligent species. Like i wonder what what it is. You know. there's i can't imagine. Mom should be kept from us but i wonder if there's equipment like stump type of telescope beck and see the surface of planets. That are just ridiculously far away. Like how would that be. I mean i know that. There's a new telescope being made. I don't almost wanna look it up right now. Just for holiday right now for you is well. I'll keep talking so a football's fund to watch some time now. Where's he going with this. You know there was a telescope. That's supposed to be okay. Eric up that supposed to be better than the hubble space telescope than we've developed. This is called. The james webb space telescope sometimes called j. w. s. t. or wet is an orbiting infrared observatory that will complement in extended discoveries of the hubble telescope with longer wavelength coverage in great improved sensitively. So i'm a fun. Yeah i mean we're really going to be looking back into like the cosmo's now i mean shit. You know what really excites me about that. 'cause like what if there's a few planets that have better in like that goldilocks zone. You know they're not they're not too cold and they have a surface that looks like it has vegetation shit. I mean you do know that. There's a well over eight planets in our solar system alone learn on our solar system. Inner universe alone in the milky way that we know of that are perfectly inhabitable. Yes yet is for archiving. Yes and that's just what we know. I mean the milky way is an ankle and this is the most amazing thing we can observe that yes. We don't have to physically go there and like you know. It's it's mindblowing mindblowing. Thinking how completely insignificant we are like. And i don't think a lot of people really thinking l. That's why i was saying the beginning of the episode. This funniest that we have because it's so profound in about like i mean. Put joke at here but i mean really we can only. He is funny as we can be when we're talking about this acid and insane. Think though like the the amount of okay take step back the amount of insignificance. We have because like a lot of people. Don't put it into perspective. Different like a million and a billion. Yeah such a big difference dude. It's an extremely big difference like when you look at it in seconds even because a billion a few weeks to thirty seven thirty four years whatever you go from lake weeks years from millions to billions. Yeah that's a big fucking deaf. Yeah and i mean. There's so much out there that we don't know we we don't know where the hell the edge of the universities we don't over the center of the universe is the only thing we can go based off of is the idea that gravity is at like the core of the universe is like the core gravity and with that i mean earth is constantly falling in a sense so with that knowledge in the idea of of physics. If we're falling than we're going towards the pull of gravity were not at the centre. Yeah nowhere near the wall. I mean we may be fucking fino. Fucking universe manage cash in. Don't you know all while employs. Yeah everybody tweets about that. Nothing important anymore. I i i don't know man like i think the idea of an edge of the universe or even the center of the universe. Well actually no because it's ever changing. The universe is constantly expanding. Yeah yeah that was. That was infirm. Wasn't it really. Yeah yeah and you wanna something crazy i mean. Do i wanna know or not know something crazy. 'cause it's not necessarily a full facts but like the idea of is fucking insane so i if not more so focused on the idea like the big bang theory how like the two particles collided in. God farted bro. Yeah godfather made the universe. That's very possible to power for fart. Still smell its fat. Brings that ice but just as much as it came together it can almost immediately destroyed because as constantly ever expanding we have no idea it could tear it can start tearing into two and then all we go through link almost immediate destruction on such a level that we can't even comprehend wherever comprehend. And you wouldn't even know you would know you would have so many. Think that like like the most expansive distance like as a universe would almost have similar properties to adams. You know yeah like it's so crazy to me like when you think about like the adams a religion you know so topic in Tiny in the universe is there. Was this one. Video are watched like just absolutely blew my mind because it was like an entire timeline idea of like the life of the universe itself like from the big bang to if everything were to die happen and it takes like Obscene amount of years to or like you would never like a thousand million lifetimes plus would never ever see and so it makes you really wonder like definitely has to be some type of future for us in space it. 'cause it can't be here otherwise our species will die. Mankind will hundred percent. Die everything that we go. Because i mean a and i mean even twinkies let me put it in perspective for some people really not. He's africa crucial. This video is somebody in a discord. I don't remember who i give a shout out. I almost want to say it was cyborg. Actually okay he has a lot of cool theories about that about i think it was. I board. that sent me. There's video 'cause it's pretty fucking cool so basically it was just like this massive lake idea that fuck. I just had like a total josh. Josh owner. I know branches ruining kaput. Everyone got like so hyped up blake and took my pants off. Yeah where you go. I totally goofed up there. I'm sorry then. I'm gonna talk about something else because we're just gonna behind. I don't know maybe come back as will happen. But i know we've talked about the game noman sky which is a space exploration game which is based on scifi. And obviously it's not realistic by any means. But it is really fun because you get to go. Explore without loading. Screens is a fly down on land on planets and get out and explore and scam shit and find will animals and stuff and i know whenever you played the game. It was not that great because they just released a. But now it's insanely sophisticated in its sequel of a sequel now. So now i explain. But i didn't care for it so much when i came out because yeah i did play when it first came out and to me it was one of the things i was just like wile because i was really amazed at the idea that it was like the most obscenely huge open world idea of gaming to me that alone was just like what have i had to see that and it not at all. It didn't become at all what i had hoped to to be in. Nor whether you're could definitely been. But also i have. You got back your remembered at i get points for saving the show by bringing up another space related thing you did. You did by points. That's that's good so more so we are in a very very small sliver of of life we only know so much like Were were given. I don't know like that eight years on average life. Yeah yeah and worldly Going off of what. Other people are documented in the past and those people will only documented so much because documentation. What egypt that discovered are the egyptians. Were straight up. They all the ones that made paper papyrus or whatever they call it back then. They pop here was Now just being an idiot. I have no clue. I'm pretty sure. Tablets briscoe tablets now that that's like fucking abc or some shit. I still do that. We do homeschool school and stone tablets. little pieces of stone all over the damn upgrade. I mean you were talking shit just a moment ago about the guy with a flip near over here using stung. Got ahead to doodoo. Podcast greg. Count for something right Yeah so. I mean we were just as very very small sliver in comparison to what is ideally Figured out every single sliver thinks that they're in the best sliver like mine incidents. Go i feel like a majority of the dark ages zero at man. This time actually kind is bad. I feel like they even have more fun in the dark ages because it didn't have less to so much to worry about because they were more like in tune with things still are in their environment. Here were totally totally gone and completely disconnected from our environment. Most people are like face the phone. No idea what's going on around through and use technology ever period ever. Yeah like you got on your your head with like leaf. That's not up But yet i don't know like there's there's a lot of ideas that could be were more so where we should be advancing innocence but were digressing as it as ways. Yeah in in in ways that revolt not just nature. Like we're we're completely losing our ability to communicate with others. Like i mean do fucking throat facebook a while. You're going to see everybody in that each other on a all. I know cerebral. Nobody knows how to communicate nobody. Nobody can have an opinion anymore. It's gotta be one way or like your piece of shit and it's just it's stupid and for me. I'm all for like saying the worst shit. Really chris people funny. I don't do it for fun. You don't do it because you're actually about what you're saying Love seeing people get so so he is the funniest thing to me. Because you know what. When i can get somebody mad i can then control you. You're mad i win. I don't care if i if i get anybody mad. I'm in control at that point. And then i will do whatever i will do and say whatever i need to have one like just a shit. I can be a piece of shit. You are a mindless abusive. And that's why we love you. Yeah no. I mean in all honesty like i try to be. Try to be nice for the most part you try you do well and your professional and your nice when you talk to people on the server and your helpful you know but i am definitely somebody who strives on making people miserable for the most part. Because like i of i wholeheartedly. Hey people everybody. Everybody nick i want you to. An extent doesn't carry places to be but i mean god he left. I mean for the most part is just one of those things that people really gotta realize we're different. We're all different and we're in a there. Were very very very fucking small so the rest of everything else. i know. when's be that's right. Yeah fuck. Bu active way you should act. Wade yeah i get it. I mean ex. It'd be just be civil for diesel. Any common sense and i will be right with the world again now. I have a hypothetical for him. And i say this because i was at a time in my life about ten ten years ago i started writing a book and i got a hundred and thirty three pages in microsoft word into this book fucking long but basically the premise of it was embiid as unrealistic. And stupid as you wanna think it is. It is what it is i. I did this. Because i thought it was a cool idea. But there's the planet in our solar system that's the same distance away from the sun but on the opposite side of the sun so as we revolve around the sun so do they and they had a. They had cloaking a system around their planet to keep been hidden from observers. So we did not know that this planet existed is what i'm getting at and in the book what happens is this planet contacts us because they want to try and get our planet and they're planet to communicate finally for the first time because they've seen we've been deviating from what we could be an what they out what they are and they think that they should help their humans just like us. They had the same types of evolution throughout their time periods. There's little different variations between dogs fish. Birds and shit like that but for the most part everything is pretty similar but they are the planet of total peace but genuine peace and the planet is instead of being divided in the countries and states in bullshit like that. It's just a fucking planet this planet and the fact is that they've always been like landlocked like there's no massive ocean separating in our continent so they've had they've always been able to travel be around each other throughout air tire history next meet. Its where they didn't have this crazy. Division like a lot of planets had like what we have with the western and eastern sides being so different than yanni area so what ended up happening. Is this planet just sky rocketed way past this space. They were travelling spaceship. We were elected sixteen hundreds and stuff like that and so basically what happens is they finally reveal themselves to us and their transmission sent from all all around the world all the other governments in their respective languages revealing themselves. Say that they wanna help us and they want to do this business so long story short his fucking long book and i i was still nowhere near done with it. So yes hakka Yeah i i still have it. But it's forgotten. God it's in the archives of my old computer. it's yeah yeah. I you got you got something there. So far the stories on like that. The concept is great so the main character of this book is kind of based them a little bit myself. Because i don't consider myself a really awesome. Neither so wanted a characters god and we lost them but it was somebody that that wasn't a total idiot exempt. You know i've got my days but basically they don't and at the time i wrote this. I was in a place in my life. I had nothing going on. I was working at a dead end job. I didn't have a degree. I didn't have a family. I was just like i'm just here. I'm just doing the best. I can and i'm here so in the book. The main character is in a similar situation and wherever the planet makes contact with us. It's fucking mind blowing. Everyone is talking about it and life is basically still going on because people are still doing what they're supposed to be doing but now there's like a presence in like the revealing itself there's massive starship that you can see not hidden and it's crazy in it's in our orbit in it's allowed to be there. They got permission alderson. They're talking with our governments and all this crazy shit is happening. But basically what they ended up deciding to do certain certain countries opt out and they don't get any president like there's like nothing ever happened and unless they decide they wanna they wanna talk again but basically what happens outside basically million buck. In times i apologized but basically what happens. Is they allow. They offer residents from their planet and residents from our plant to trevor and travel and then live here s live there and the crazy thing about it is they look like us but they have their own languages and all this. But they've all but they've also had technology. When i really don't wanna get too far into space related. I guess they had things in salt in their brands called crossings which is basically information bit. So you can have saw your brain Automatically know whatever the information has on it So they could all of the no english because they had these installed in their brain so they can talk to us so and to them getting across ling is like going to the doctor and having like a five minute procedure bom and now you have this crazy. Plethora of knowledge depending on what you paid for to get. You had like a slight idea neuralink before you must made it a thing. Yeah this is like eleven years ago. 'cause i mean essentially that damn near elon. Musk nearly Were i mean it's not so much like you get to pay. A certain amount for the information gets note but more so as far as i'm concerned it it it's more than take care of neurological sir at But has a lot more potential for more you. Could you could go to a building called the plenty of building. Download information off of archives. That you wanna know and install it on a small little crackling and have the guy in the big. What doctors became because there wasn't like like pills shit would fix broken bones now cancer. There was nothing like that anymore like they obliterated cancer and everything forever ago. There's doctors really was just installing wrestling's in people's brains so that the idea super cool. I personally would never wanna live in a place like that because i i liked the idea of knowledge and information being free as it should. Yeah you could. You could go through this planet then reach. Learn at the old fashioned way. That's funded libraries. Yeah there are libraries but their way. That the way that i describe in the book is it's massive but basically there's a massive hall of of digital information that's stored in all of these buildings are everywhere in case one blows up for whatever reason they've got a shitload of mall over. I mean that basically would be where i would spend most of my life. I just love the idea. On the way the way that the way that they had little setup to cafes and shit so could go there and a bed as digital monitors that are touched. And there's also pads and you can like our to learn all of this in as much detail as possible and then wonder yes. So it's it's crazy but and there's even like there's the the workers there that that that work there have these bad ass jet pack looking. They look like treadmills jet packs underneath them so they can like zoom around in these halls in basically work on the archives in store formation in stuff like that the stuff that can't be done digitally. Yeah it's it's such a long book. I was nowhere near the reason why i stopped is because it got really stressful for me to fill all fucking holes that i would come up with in my head like i was trying to come up with a better monetary system loss to trying to come up with everything better than what we have now in. Fill all the possible. It became too much. I was like i can't show you should make to where the their currencies time in their life. That's the thing that's a movie. I know just in time. But like i'm not i would look in a piggyback off of that. It's already been done. It's not necessarily piggybacking. They solely focused only on that. You could just make that time. A currency in general and still be pretty. I don't see myself ever riding the whole thing to be honest especially with yasser be shit dude any all jackass can fucking write anything up in published through amazon like anybody could be a function not just well i mean yeah potentially you actually right rottweiler whereas other people literally just post a garbage total garbage all. Abc's i came up with all this crazy road system and the system of how like it's it was a law and it was it was so it was so hard for me to like. Do all of this and think about it in writing on away. I liked that made sense to me because i don't do a lotta reading but i mean been told i'm decent writer so that always kept me like excited to do more and You know i'm writing. You'll master book as well. I will say writing. Fantasy is fucking Writing sci-fi garrick has no no laws were standards to abide on to make it feel racal funding extent. You want to at least in that realm but you could make it your and that's what i was saying 'cause like it's funny 'cause even writing like a fantasy book i'm still like making laws for magic and things that can't be done kaby on still overcomplicating it but in a way that i can i can i can. It's malleable. yeah and i mean you have to. You can't just like have a world yet. I mean that's just utopia dowry like you can you can do anything and everything but it's nothing without some sort of conflict or some sort of issue that resides as an after effect to that. Yeah yeah yes one. One thing that. I was playing around with the book was the the massive conflict of of of what happens in the book. Because really you go to this planet and earnings per begins. No so i wanted to have their being a ritual at this at this planet did and this is where it got really complicated for my mind because what it was was when the population reaches a certain point. The entire planet changes into a. I wanna say like purge where every person has to kill until the number and the number is literally all over. Every single advertisement screen ever single digital window. Every single street sign has the population number on it. And this is through. A crash nets installed when you're thirteen years old. You get a cry. You get your citizen your planet citizen crackling. It's like a right of passage. So essentially you just need to go to this place with all the crafts slings and get like the top of the notch military wrestling's to stay alive and everybody but everyone needs that right and let has it has to be sorted so only the rich will live well so the idea about the massive conflict was the wave in the government system on. I can't really even remember. It was really complicated to the way i had it in. My head was all different councils and shit and they were protected. During the end of era ceremony. They come into the end of era and man. It was crazy because the main characters roommate in going like crazy in light kills the neighbor. Fuck like this always happens like in the morning when he wakes up and he's been there let so the main character in my whole question. I was going to get with my hypothetical for really got into this crazy about. This book was If a planet like this existed and you were given the option to go there would you and my answer. Eleven years ago was thuc. Yeah go there you know but now i'm like really not now. I got kids in my wife and i. I've got all these planes here. I don't think i'd go now. But back then i was like yeah go because i'd hundred go because i mean let's be real. They obviously currency is not going to matter. If there for the time being so you're going to be fed. You're going to be given a place to do. You're just alex too windy. The're just gonna be expected a little bit of labor. So fucking do it. You're doing lately anyway to live. Why don't you just do it in sake. Cut the currency bullshit building. Eighty four they had owned may have currency and stuff too but but really you're you're you when he gets there like they've taken so much care of their planet and that's another thing too like whenever the end of era is happening. It's they're not using guns and missiles bombs because they don't want to damage their world like they're even considerate when they're doing this unfortunate event of scaling down the population and one of the reasons. Why they don't. They don't prohibit people from like having kids like if you wanna grow the world grow the world. We're not going to get in the way of you know that your family but there's a risk in doing all of this is the risk. If the popular there is a risk with everything the population gets to a certain level. There has to be an end of era or we are over over like is just the way. It is continuously greed and grow. Because there's no cancers there's no like people are living to their one hundred twenty and there's no like there's nothing killing people you know so when the population gets too high people there has to be unending. There was like a month of mourning after an end of era. But it's like a celebration and morning where people are. It's it's a sad terrible month and that's why there's so many clinton buildings because if the person vinton so-and-so the is you Know exactly how he did it because his information is stored in the plaintiffs so any other idea is gonna end up era happens you have the strongest in the smartest had survived the ordeal the ones that were able to be cutting and get their way out of it or balloons that were strong forced native. So there's so many positives for doing it but the big negative is you just had to kill a bunch of people which sucks but it's either that or you govern people to har- the planetary government said we have to end of era obviously doesn't happen often at all super ed. I was thinking that might be a reason why it wasn't exactly told to earthlings. Earth did something similar but the fact that they were observing sets of. So then i'm going back and forth my head. i'm okay. I can't do this video games on that. That's the best way to as ultimate outcome. So they would use like hand to hand combat and knives and stuff like that and they wouldn't just shoot up the city shoot up the street us missiles and bombs and then the other thing too is after the simulated with a planet. The planet was called demos d. e. m. r. a. Deborah was called their planet whenever we simulated with deborah. You got to see as the reader the massive contrast between earth and deborah because when we have when the end of era happens it happens on dim. Rock ended happens on earth because now we fast forward like twenty years in the future and in a in an era happens in berkeley is don't know what the hell is going on. So they think. Dinner is declaring war on earth. So then days start ahmed ed missiles and it just gets crazy. It's like war torn earth and deborah civilized even a state of combat. And so you'd go back and forth as the reader to go to the perspective of the main characters mom while she's living on earth through this ordeal like i had this whole thing man like in my head. We need to like touch up on that. Like outside of the podcast. We definitely need to figure this out because shirts pretty historic. But maybe i'll maybe. I'll try to get in on this laptop that i have now and and and send it to you and we can fuck with indoctrinated. His writing style has improved. Since i did this but at one hundred thirty three contagious long on a not too much in hindsight of a book but with that said let me take a quick break before like hop out of the chair and do the fucking pie dance. Because you've been talking like what seems like an internal okay. Hey we're back all my god. Josh your head is gone. I was weird. Yeah it's totally gone. That's awesome i. Don't go for those of you watching. You can see it. But his head was completely gone from the from the from the show. Okay we're back. we're not really long. We i went on a really long tangent about a book that i was writing much so that we had to break site can use restaurant. Yeah i tell you man you got to wear a diaper probably be better off you know for sure you would be a little bit off so i put so of the airtime with that I guess i want you to say something. Because i was sure. Sure sure. i'm so like. I'll go a little bit back. As far as insignificant says humans on this planet in the universe in general So fun fact. A saturn alone. You can fit. Like i dunno. Thing is like a earth's in Across the size of saturn. So we kinda more-or-less How big earth itself can be eight of those going across in you got fucking sadder. Yeah just that alone is pretty crazy boy. The distance it takes from us being on earth over to the moon you could fit all the other planets in our solar system in between really just fine. You'd be able to fit all land it's inbetween earth in the moon. While i caught the mood was like twenty miles up. Get about it like thin throw. Rock added almost so. I mean i don't know like if for that for you listeners. I really puts things into perspective but should definitely should 'cause That alone you can fit are the planet in our solar system in between us and our moon and that's just what seven eight of the planet's maybe if you count off ploto if you want to count put out how many other planets at there unknown amounts and to think that we are the only people on in this universe. I mean it can be possible. No i just find it so unlikely that it's just another you know you know it's insane to me to think about sewer out there somewhere out there but but somewhere out there for real is a planet with no son close to it to light up and its version of a sunset in sun rise its version of that is a booking galaxy like coal but somewhere others plant. That's gonna have that like statistically there has to be a plan out there that has that as at sunset sunrises actually like. I see talking about statistics but like in reality. You can't really have a galaxy completely visible no see so many stars collectively together that it would look like that like like even. I'm right about this josh. Love so like. I mean there could be fucking planet. Said are like a thousand times bigger than anything we've ever seen bruno's the so i mean it's okay. It's probable for sure. The title of this podcast is. It's possible it's possible. Bothell and also basically i said basically a lot is space. Basically possible episode full of basically impossible's it makes sense coming from a mindless morning show. I filmed at night or recorded around nighttime yet. Yeah well it has the otherwise. I'm not like do me in the morning. Either of us would get along in the morning. I don't get along with anybody in the morning so neither neither. It's just like sweating be show. We filled in the morning folks. I'm sorry to break the abuse. I agree it's good for you to listen to the mornings when you're driving around a worker when it has awesome not actually be on hard drugs to do this show in the morning like right. When a hard drugs i mean. I don't even think like. I had the ability to do our drugs. If i want even if i wanted to. I thing when i wake up and snore. Talk mile of cocaine mile on facebook. Why is daddy smelling the table. Saying o on youtube video. This guy does like these. He's got a little dinant hand pa- dinosaur. He's got warmer. It's like sniffing a line of coke conducive spoke at the. I don't know why it just genuinely is but yeah back to space so aside room sprays to al. Yeah let me. Wrong of space bro. Space now yeah mindless all right. Not everyone can see you know. Sorry so people are thinking that they are frigging phones or offering or something. Yes so for those listening. I spaced out on jacket out on youtube grace. Great times so hey this informational. This is professional. Yeah let's let's. Let's talk about our achievement. We just got our youtube achievement. Okay i don't remember i. You no fucking clue what's also let's. Let's say something unprofessional immediately. Interrupt to talk about our achievement. I eight eight dollars an hour or listening minutes or something. eight thousand. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah Apparently we've been we've been listen to for over one hundred thirty some plus hours. Yeah it's pretty cool in hindsight like the amount of people that hit you to amount of people. Listen to podcasts. Pretty low. I mean it is low it worse. I'm i'm super fucking humbled. I the fact that like anybody wants to listen to me for even an hour to to be episode truly happy. I don't think my mom listen to all of this episodes as much as meyer money. But that's fine. That's fine you. My mom has listen to a single one. And that's okay. Because i can talk shit about. I got my wife to watch the entire medium I mean she was more interested on on you. Everything i had to say. So of course she wants me. Interviewing people are gonna make more than our regular ones unless like us. Because it's just us. But i i will also say funny but i mean definitely a lot better with with the nextradio extra body. Yeah bring so much more to the table yeah They've got their own experiences. And stuff like that. But i also will say the reason why it is doing as well as doing because me. Yeah i mean. I don't i don't talk lake fairly much at all other than like our last midnight episode. I thought oh my god too much. I fully pulled. The nick are yes man and at least i know like if i interview i feel like i'm doing better at shunning. The hell up a little bit. But it's josh it's all right. Hey i'll tell you what it was. Because i started drinking pretty pretty. This is great. So i was a lot more talking about your but it was since fun. It it's still a good episode where he was school. So i had a blast or deputy get his ass back for sure. Yeah just s just as ass. We're gonna we're gonna have him like jim carey like openness but she talked out because it's explicit platform. We can do whatever it is straight chocolate. Starfish we're gonna be talking to so yeah. This is the explicit at all. Ajay's shock would star fish. Wow why hope. Here's a hundred thousand views now makes sense so all right One cool thing. I'll get back into space we keep getting sidetracked in that. That's what we do. We're mindless you don't like it. I'm glad i'm glad that we've been able to stay on topic period. Yeah as far as we could. We could literally drift often dispute with food episode. No apparent face dry for your shit dude like someone space daily here. They go what. Yes so the eight or nine planets eight nine. Oh dang it. I feel like we're smart one minute and then we're stupid. This is bullshit we keep going back and say eight or nine because if you want to count pluto kudos to you if not whatever fuck you you wanna go by the scientific work i get it i get. Why scientifically no longer planning. That's what i have to say about it. So the closest these planets are going to align completely in our solar system now align completely. I don't mean in a perfect fucking straight like line. That says yeah not gonna happen but the closest it's going to come to a perfect straight line will be not in our lifetimes anticlimactic. Sorry to say there's probably not going to be in your children's lifetime worry no healthy so in the year twenty four ninety two will be a thing i'll be around and it's got written down here may six wrote something down is the any time. Yeah okay so. I mean that's pretty cool but i mean i guess essense way bucking see it. You might see if my theory. My theory is real that you're still going to be a spectrum of energy and you can see whatever you want whenever you want did if you zere spectrum of energy and you wanna see our solar system planets lyda you really should expand your horizons and try and find out if you're staying in the same solar system. You wanna drive. I'd wanna drop in my kids man. If i go too far get lost then. I'm out there. And i'm lost and i can't come back book. Those kids bro. You can go to a whole different. Legs zeta phi like galaxy. And you can imagine you can mentally adopt like some fucking lake superior beings that are just making you so fucking proud but then you abandon them to eventually eventually saw the puck as a matter if you ban the ones in light the you already there with them in real life. Go find other kids in your energy life. Yeah sorry they're not gonna keep interrupting you during show to show you drawings of mushrooms farting yeah but that was kind of precious. 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Why the Vaccine Timeline is Changing

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Why the Vaccine Timeline is Changing

"It's thursday february eighteenth. It's been a year. What's an extra month or four we start here in a baffling shift to. It's time line. The biden administration says many americans won't be able to think about getting vaccinated until late summer. They might only have two million doses when they first get author as what's causing the delay will problems at vaccine. Factories aren't helping. They were expecting rolling blackouts. Will lots of texans are still ready to roll right when it goes on. Its go with a phone and akimbo. One resident tells us what it's like the darkness for days and there are lots of voices on the radio. Very few of them become calls to action writers irreplaceable unique. Why rush limbaugh still shaping politics even after his death from abc news. This is start here. i'm brad milkey. i'm socially distance. I'm allowed to take my mask off. They tell me the four. Joe biden was president biden. He ran his campaign on a simple platform. Ruining get the government working again. It's gonna do stuff. It's going to do it right without all the drama experts. Say that if he had acted just just one week. Sooner thirty six thousand people would have been say obviously place for government was failing the most was keeping americans from covid nineteen besides telling people over and over to wear a mask the big turning point would just have to come in the form of vaccines and as he took office his administration told americans the vaccine is on. Its way faster than you can imagine all i know. I think it'd be this spring. I think we'll be able to do that spring. That is president biden on january twenty fifth the next day the twenty six. Dr anthony fauci answers that same question. When will basically anyone on the street be able to procure a vaccine. I would imagine by the time we get to april. That will be what i would call for. You know for better. Wording open season lasts forward to this week when vaccine would be more widely available to the general population. I was hoping that that would be by the end of april. This time on cnn. How timeline is slipping. So that time line will probably be prolonged. Maybe into mid to late may and early june later that night. This was wednesday night. President biden did a town hall. When is every american. Who wants it going to be able to get a vaccine by the end of july. This year without head-spinning statement yesterday you saw a white house in. Perhaps its most defensive posture. So far defending a timeline. That is getting murkier and murkier. So let's bring someone who can offer a little bit of clarity. Abc's sony saltzman is with our medical unit. She's dedicated to the vaccine. Beat that is what. She studies all day everyday. Sony what's going on yeah. It is confusing. I would say this shifting timeline. It does keep slipping further and further back and the ultimate question. Here is when we're gonna be able to return to life as normal. I don't think anyone including the biden administration really knows that for sure. When do we expect there will be enough doses for everyone wants vaccine to be able to get what when it comes to. These vaccine doses. There are so many things going on sir. We announced last week that he would be purchasing That the federal government would be purchasing enough doses to vaccinate three hundred million americans. So he reiterated that last night we will get the last shipment of those doses the end of july by the in goodness. Here's the government has enough contracts four enough vaccines for the entire population. Now the question is when are those vaccines going to be available in. When are they going to be in our communities and that's where it gets more complicated. So manufacturing in and of itself is a complex science sometimes. These manufacturers think that they have their production targets but they brew up a whole batch of vaccine. They test it. It's not up to quality. They have to throw the whole thing away. Not only are the vaccination sites in thirty four states shutting down because of the weather. But the main distribution hub for fedex in memphis along with ups in louisville kentucky getting hit by this storm and that could have a ripple effect across the country. There's been issues getting a vaccine out of warehouses into the communities. There's been storms. there's been weather. All of these things combined can lead to these delays and result in these slipping of timelines. That we're seeing governor. You look at this. It's it's impressive. But why does california need the federal government to help. We can use all this weekend. The end of the day supplies our biggest issue in this states and governors and mayors announced these big mega vaccination sites. We've seen cvs and walgreens say they're coming online so there are now many places americans can go to get a vaccine in theory. The problem is is that you need supply in those locations for people to actually get shocked arms. The next few weeks are going to be stubborn. Perhaps more frustration. Not less because the allocations are pretty consistent. They're not growing but anxiety is growing and people's desire demands are increasing. So it's not a matter of a lack of places for people to get vaccines anyone can walk to a walgreens. It's a matter of getting enough doses to that walgreens so that when people show up it's readily available in one of the things that dr anthony fauci said this week was. Hey we're actually counting on one. Hundred million doses from johnson and johnson like a third vaccine maker and yet. They're kind of late on delivering their vaccine. Is that going to be the issue going forward that these vaccine companies are actually late on the jump with what they promised. The deal was done with johnson and johnson under the prior administration and as across the last few weeks. We've learned that. There is not a big inventory. So new york times reported last month that johnson and johnson was having some problems with their production which is totally understandable. Scaling-up vaccine is really hard. So i wanna be clear. That johnson and johnson as one hundred million commitment for the end of june of doses. What we know now is that johnson and johnson has committed to having one hundred million doses to the american public but they might only have two million doses when they first get authorized which were anticipating later this month or early next month. So that two million. That's a long way from it is. It is a long way from one hundred million. But i think it kind of illustrates. Some of the challenges in the kinks. That need to be worked out when you're talking about scaling up to millions and millions of doses you know the science of manufacturing is actually really complex. It's one thing to make a couple hundred thousand doses that you wanna use in your clinical trial. It's another thing to vaccinate the entire world. And it's actually you have to bring in a whole different set of scientists that specialize in the science of scaling up big batches of medicine. It's very precise and sometimes there can be problems. That crop up along the way i would rather than a pharmaceutical company. Like fess up to having factored batch. That isn't up to standards and throw it away and have a supply delay then. Have god forbid a bad batch. Get out there and hurt people all right sony saltzman with abc's medical unit. Thanks so much. thanks fred. When the power plants went off lying and the natural lines froze and the wind turbine stopped turning. It created an immediate crisis for much of the state of texas. Because here you've got an independent energy grid incapable of borrowing electricity from other states. Got a system that is being knocked out by the cold and yet because it's so cold. Electricity is the main thing people need to stay safe houston. America's fourth largest city is telling residents to boil water. If even have any how can we buy what are we don't even have power and in galveston crowded islands. The water many without power and water. Everything in the refrigerator now has gone bad to. What do you do. Well you can institute a thing called rolling blackouts where you turn on power to some people. Then he turned it off. You give it to other folks. Keep everything from getting overloaded. The problem is certain places. You can't turn off. hospitals fire. Stations so for many customers rolling blackouts quickly gave way to blackouts or caught stands for electric reliability council texas. And they showed that they were not reliable. Do you think urquhot leadership needs to resign. Yes we've managed to find someone who is still got some on their phone. James rhine twenty two year old in the houston area. Exactly the son of one of our dallas correspondent. Jim ryan james. I'm seeing you on zoom right. Now your power still out. You being lit by candlelight. Yeah so currently view candles going right now for Just to see and it gets dark earlier than normal Monday evening there was a About an hour to two hour window. That i was able to Use use electricity. Use water But since monday evening My power has been completely out. And i haven't had running water so Last night i was able to seek refuge at some families house in west houston and that didn't have power either but they did have a fireplace for me to sleep next to so You take what you can get so since monday when hear rolling blackouts. I think four hours on. But then there's six hours off what you're saying you haven't had power and therefore you haven't had running water for three straight days. Yeah yeah you know i. That's kind of the understanding that a high i had as well And it's really a guest as to when you're going to get power How long it's going to stay on and You know you don't know when when the next time it's going to be is so you really have to prepare in those right when it goes on. It's go mode. You need to start you know filling your tub with water. You need to Charge your portable devices that can help you through and and like laptops those those hold a lot of charge and they can charge yourself on multiple times millions without power families to wear multiple layers huddle with one another just to get through these nights. They can see their breath inside of their homes and they're really worried about their pipes. Often water asking customers to turn off your faucets. Don't drip them now to try and preserve water pressure so my girlfriend lives in north austin in a town called pflueger ville. It's just a suburb of boston. In an apartment complex fire sells a one bedroom and she has been dealing with Days where her thermostat will read forty degrees during the daytime. And then at nighttime it'll just below meaning that it's below forty degrees either thirty or twenty degrees So her biggest concern right now is just maintaining heat trying to get warm and stay warm through the night her waters out as well pipes bursting in austin water cascading out of buildings and icy row sending vehicle sliding down the street so not only issued dealing with the cold and lack of through water. She has cove on top of that. She was diagnosed with covid about a week ago. So she's been in quarantine she didn't have the time or the resources ready to prepare for this this event so not only does she have code and she's cold. She can't seek refuge without exposing somebody to cove it and she is making it through by Deconstructed her couch in our living room. And basically set up a pallet in her bathroom To try to you know. Get a small space to conserve seed for. Is that just like barricade against the against the cold outside the bathroom just just a a little bit more installation and a place for her to lie down without you know being our couch or or being in her bed Just some kind of structure in their third so She can see her breasts. She is absolutely feeling the mental effects of isolation because he was quarantined for covid. And now she's going through this alone so does it seem like everyone's in the same boat. James or are there certain areas like certain parts of the grid that are getting their power on more consistently or that are still sitting in darkness. Well i'll tell you right now. The most frustrating thing. I'll actually show you so Said we're moving. This is my apartment. I'm on the third floor. I this is my view of downtown. Houston okay right. You're showing me to view from your balcony right this the houston skyline for so. It's kinda cloudy right now. Normally there's big big buildings right here and every night since my power has been out downtown houston has had this beautiful brightly lit up You know display with their. Led's going for you know red for valentine's day and and all of this stuff that just seems it seems so great. Why is all this power being allocated into downtown area nighttime. There's there office buildings these there are neighborhoods completely enclosing the downtown area. That do not have power. And i was one of those people and i. I was very displeased with how that was some being handled another night there with millions without power without heat without one and authorities acknowledging they do not know when the power. We'll be back on when night. Time comes around. It's almost like actually survival mode kind of it's it's actually pretty frightening which is running around looking for a hotel at this point in trying to get me and my kids out of the cold. We have seen families for example who have gotten in their cars used cars as heaters and have died because of carbon monoxide poisoning. You don't bring it if you don't have a gas powered fireplace. Which i'm gonna people have that luxury then. It's it's really scary. I believe i. We've heard from hospitals to security systems of so many vital systems going without power right now including residents keeping themselves warm with fires and couch cushions. James rien there in houston. Good lecture girlfriends. Stay safe absolutely thank you for your time. Start here rush. Limbaugh has died. The rush limbaugh effect is very much living on or back after the break yesterday we learned that perhaps one of the most important people in modern american politics has died and this is not someone who's ever held elected office. They were divisive. But it's not devicive. We're defending an america. That has strayed from our founding rush. Limbaugh died yesterday from complications of lung cancer. At the age of seventy plenty of media sensations become famous for how they bring a culture together. limbaugh was really defined by his brashness by his divisiveness and in doing so he shaped allot more than some radio. Airwaves got nicole hammer here. She's a historian at columbia university. She's also the author of the book messengers of the right. She's documented limbaugh extensively over the years. Nicole i thought the most telling thing yesterday was president. Trump has not given many interviews as ex president. Well moments after this news broke. He was there on fox specifically to talk about rush limbaugh. It's a remarkable mom and it underscores. Just how important rush. Limbaugh was to the trump presidency. Because you know that famous escalate arrived was a very beginning and he was one of the things that we're going to win so much. Attention has been paid to the role of fox news and the trump presidency but really rush. Limbaugh was an early advocate of trump. they're bringing drugs. Bring crime their rapists and some of maybe good people but they just people we don't need them and it resonated resonate there's a whole bunch of people just like perot resonated. He supported him throughout. He helped spread many of the conspiracy theories that fueled the trump presidency. Looks like the corona verse being weaponized as yet another element to bring down. donald trump. remember back in october. When donald trump was diagnosed with covid nineteen rush limbaugh turned over his microphone for two hours to donald trump so he could hold a radio rally rushes. The i appreciate that very much. It's an honor. I made it out of my heart sir. I i know you do. And this is the most important election that we've ever had rush limbaugh. Thank you for your decades of tireless devotion to our country and of course trump had already awarded him the medal of freedom that during the state of the union address so this was a mutually beneficial relationship when even beyond donald trump. Can you talk for second bout. How rush limbaugh changed the game. Because there've been lots of shock jocks and commentators on radios and yet they are not seen as kingmakers. they're not seeing as guiding an entire political party. How did his legacy become so different. His legacy is different because of his relationship to politics. Don imus and howard stern. We're not people who fundamentally transforming the american political scene but rush limbaugh was the opinions expressed on the rush limbaugh program do not necessarily reflect those. Wabc radio comes a nationally syndicated. Radio host in nineteen eighty-eight gutless disclaimer. The views expressed by the hosts on this show ought to become federal law in the station. Sponsors auto endorsed him and by nineteen. Ninety-two he sleeping over at the white house. Because george h w bush believes that he is the key to winning conservatives and therefore winning the republican nomination and the nineteen ninety-two election if bush wins. I'm afraid that the thing. I will hear on the radio. Tomorrow is his statement of a mandate from the people to continue what he has been doing which i view is tax spending regulate. That's not what you're going to hear tomorrow. That's not what you're going to hear. You know what. You're going to hear if bush wins. I'll tell you keep the sharp knives and objects away from the media and from that moment on republican politicians. Treat him like a kingmaker. I am in congress today because of rush limbaugh who a lot of appreciation and a lot of love for what you're doing out there. Well rush thank you so much. Thank you for that. George w bush. Call him to congratulate you on twenty years of important and excellent broadcasting. Well thank you sir. You've stuns me why. What was his connection with voters with average listeners. That made him so that like they were like no no. He represents all of us because had been nothing like him before. My dogs have created more shovel. Ready work than obama has it really was one of the first nationally syndicated shows because of technological changes in the nineteen eighties. And i mentioned. He comes on the scene in nineteen eighty eight by nineteen ninety two. He has who bestselling books. He's starting up a television program. Laughter is also good for you as long as you don't inhale he's somebody who they didn't have any context sport. All they knew was here. Was this wildly popular conservative. Clearly the most popular conservative in the united states. Now that reagan had left the white house and it seemed like he could command millions of voters and if he could he had become a player and so by treating him as a kingmaker. They kind of made him. One doesn't look like michelle. Obama follows her own nutrition airy dietary advice to a foreigner. Shut your mouth or get out and if you come here illegally. You're going to jail any of you guys. Your own experience with women have learned that no means yes if you know how to spot the thing to understand about rush limbaugh is that he was a controversial figure. He was somebody who engage in all sorts of racist and sexist and homophobic language. If any race of people should not have guilt about slavery. It's caucasian the way this could all be worked out. Clyburn is new position driving this. Nancy is somebody who attacked victims of hiv aids. He's somebody who called women feminine nazis and called women. Reporters info babes. Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream society. Outrage was part of the appeal for his listeners but was constantly generating controversy. That could cause problems for republicans. I don't know what's in rush limbaugh's heart so i'm not gonna comment on the sincerity of his apology to take this moment in two thousand twelve but when sandra fluke this georgetown university student testifies before congress about contraception access. She must be paid to have sex. What does that make her. It makes you a slut right. He says she owes the american people. A sex tape to pay them back for paying for her contraception and it happens in the middle of the two thousand twelve election. When mitt romney is trying to prove that he's not engaged in a war against women and that kind of hesitant on the part of republicans to criticize. Limbaugh really began to show. What a gap there was between limbaugh's audience and politics outside of the conservative media. Ecosystem brushes irreplaceable unique. Had an audience. That was massive. You'll love people you want your country to be the greatest can be and you finally got somebody willing to help. I wonder as the country who's on in the years to come is rush limbaugh from the radio era back then when you talk radio as we think of it often i think it's like ninety s thing but whether it's a different mode of media or just different personalities is limbaugh ism going to forever be part of what we're seeing in the republican party right now so i think radio gets overlooked We talk about fox news all the time but we don't talk about conservative talk radio millions more people. Listen talk radio than watch fox news just millions upon millions. It will continue. It won't have rush limbaugh as its core. Conservatives are starting to move more into podcast as well But there are so many limbaugh imitators out there. There are dozens of three hour a day national colony. No radio shows on the right and they have huge audiences and they make tons of money so even with rush limbaugh gone they are going to remain was going to say the unmistakable connection with audience in a way that you could we'll that in the real world not just on your show but way beyond the realm of radio what what set him apart continues to have its reverberations. Today nicole hammer. Thanks so much. Thank you so much for having me. Lift off as the countdown to mars continues. The perseverance of humanity launching the next generation of robotic explorers to the red planet in last night the mission takes ears but later today scientists will be facing sheer panic for about seven minutes. This is very dangerous so it's incredibly dangerous in that we are coming in so fast you come in at twelve thousand miles an hour. We have to slow down to less than two miles an hour in seven. That isn't along. Takes a spacecraft to send to the surface of mars because it's such a complicated process. It's entirely automated. You hit a button here on earth seven minutes later. The rover known as perseverance will either safely beyond the ground or not have the missions that have attempted this have failed. Perseverance rover will land location called jezero crater. If it arrives in one piece that's when the perseverance mission begins its there specifically look for signs of ancient life. It's landing near what used to be. A delta will water yes. Water flowed into what is now a crater the size of lake tahoe. We're going to be taken wake phones with us for the first time we're going to have That human sense on another planet near several other departments cousin curiosity might remember. That one's already there. Perseverance is outfitted with its own drone which will become the first aircraft to fly around the martian atmosphere. It's got equipment. The can actually gather samples like rocks. We're gonna seal it in. Its own individual tube. We set them on the surface and that is because nasa is hoping in a few years it will launch another spacecraft. This time capable of making roundtrip missions bringing back those martian rocks along with perhaps the first proof of extraterrestrial life While i'm sitting there i am just going to be crossing my fingers and hoping by the way those seven minutes scary remember it takes about twelve minutes for radio waves to make their way in from the earth meaning overall. It'll be about a half an hour of terror between winning now button and knowing what the next year old that all gets underway today around three thirty. Pm eastern time. You can watch this unfold. Live on abc news. Live by bread. Ilke seat among.

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"Welcome to the garage party wherever you are and whatever you are doing thank you for listening and thank you for joining the party. I'm your host nick and with me as always co hosting and he's also in charge of the co- check and no if you're checking your coat. All loose change will be lost. Ladies and gentlemen here is the captain. Yeah you'd have to be a fricking psychopath to wear a coat. In this heat it's going to be seen as good to see you. Thanks for joining us here at the five hundred episode party. It's time to take your pants off and get wild. That's right this is where the heroes come to play in the champions of listener land come to kick it with us at the five hundred club. Yeah big thank you to everybody in all the support and the first five hundred episodes it's all downhill from here. Hits all because of you that this is possible captain. Let's continue the celebration. The party goes on. Let's hear the next stop on our countdown. This is true. Crime garage. And this is the killing fields trilogy. Interstate forty five or i. Forty five is a highway located entirely in the state of texas. The state is just over two hundred eighty miles in length. He connects to major. Us cities dallas and houston from houston. The highway continues southeast down to galveston. There's a portion of. I forty five that is known to houston residents as the gulf freeway a short elevated section of i forty five and southern downtown houston is known as pierce elevated a fifty miles stretch of desolate land between houston and galveston is called the highway of hell a mile from high forty five lies at twenty five acre patch of land that borders the colder oilfield. This is known to all as the texas killing field. It is just rugged wasteland but it is here that for decades the dead have appeared starting in the early nineteen seventies and to this day. Many bodies of murder victims have been found within this area and the killing field. Many girls and young women have gone missing. Several have never been found. There are some similarities. In these cases all the victims of pretty young girls and women between the ages of twelve and twenty three and most of the located victims were found in or around water the texas killing fields murders will involve three different counties. Twelve different law enforcement agencies have worked these cases including the fbi despite exhaustive efforts. Very few of these murders have been solved. Many officers say that the fifty miles stretches the perfect dumping ground for serial killers and the killing field has been described as a place that even if you yelled no one would hear you and if you ran there wouldn't be anywhere to go. This is the perfect place for killing someone and getting away with it. The disappearances abductions and murders span over thirty years. Welcome to the killing fields trilogy. Five hundred episodes. And i've realized that ohio is one messed up place but so is texas. That's right that's when we took the flying garage ship. Down to the great state of texas for the texas killing fields episodes. That was episode one thirty two from that trailer. But that's the start of the trilogy so one thirty two through one thirty four. I love the music there. And i love that guy. That's reading. he's sounds like a wonderful person. Sounds really smart. I like the percussionists. It sounds like he's playing the beer bottle. There sounds to me. Like it's probably a twenty two ounce or about half full. Yeah he's the same guy that did the the voice over for the numbers. Four the creepy guy. That's hiding over there. That keeps he staring at me with those dead black is. he's hiding. Guess where he's hiding the bottles you know on couple beer. Shout outs here captain. Big shout out to cheryl in west columbia texas and a shoutout to amy. Beth and plymouth michigan b. though either will argue in around. That's right if you want to help us. Fill up the beer fridge. You go to true crime. Garage dot com. There's a little button there you can click on and it helps the show and you know what we always say with the spillover. We like to call the spillover. We like to help some of our friends out there in the true crime world in the true crime world. That is correct while we don't have any time for hesitation or masturbation so let's get right into number. This is true crime garage and this is the case of the boys on the tracks by all accounts. The engineer did a masterful job of bringing his train to a stop. It had taken a screaming screeching half mile by the time. The engine had shuddered to a standstill. Conductor jerry tomlin was on the radio notifying an approaching train on a parallel track to stop because some boys had been run over. He had also called the dispatcher. Have you got injuries. The dispatcher asked. No tomlin said we've got death. I'm sure we've got death. They passed under us. It has to be dead. It has to be and for all the true crime garage super fans way. Know what that case is boys on the tracks the boys on the tracks. That's one of the cases that we receive probably the most praise for. Yeah but it's funny because people go. Hey i listened to jonbenet ramsey six part episode great work even if they don't agree with with what we Or our thoughts. On that case or brian schaefer. I love your coverage of that. But then we'll discuss it. And i've had so many discussions about jon benet ramsey brian schaefer the delphi murders so many other cases but boys on the tracks. It's really just like boys on the tracks. That was a great job. No discussion you're right doesn't seem to need any discussion and i think a lot of that. Is that people appreciate that. We are trying to right a wrong with this case and we do that with with many that we present. But we weren't the first wants to do it. In fact we decided to cover this case for a multitude of reasons but one back in the day it was one of my favorite episodes of unsolved mysteries and the segment that profiled the boys on the tracks case at that time was known as the friends forever case because it is about the murders of kevin lives and don henry both from bryant arkansas and the piece that i'm reading from there in the boys on the tracks trailer. We should point out that that is episode. Ninety three that was a four parter boys on the tracks. But the piece that i'm reading. Their captain is from mara leverage. Nineteen ninety nine book boys on the tracks death denial mothers crusade to bring her son's killers to justice and in fact that book went on to win some awards and rightfully so mara. Leverett is one of my favorite true crime authors. I find that. I think she's very underrated. And the world of true crime. She's written the devil's not and boys on the tracks. She's fantastic when it comes to. There's probably nobody better when it comes to writing about true crime in the state of arkansas. I like to give a beer shout to christopher and new market new hampshire. christopher likes anything that's new. that's why he lives in new market new hampshire. How about a shoutout to rosalie in boston. Spa new york. She likes things that are new as well. Yeah but way. I should prefer gerke new but everything else. She preferred old all right. So should we get the three. Let's hit them with number. Saint michael the archangel defend us in our day of battle. Protect us against the deceit. Wickedness of the devil may god rebuke him we humbly pray and you prince of the heavenly host by the power of god banish into hell satan and all the evil spirits who roam through the world the ruin of souls saint michel is one of the principal angels. His name was the war. Cry of the good angels as he led them in the battle fighting heaven against those led by the dragon who was in fact the devil the devil and his followers were defeated and they were thrown down to earth. According to scripture christian tradition gives to saint michael. Four offices to be the champion of god's people to fight against satan to call away from earth and bring men souls to judgment to rescue the souls of the faithful from the power of the enemy especially at the hour of death. Tuesday march third nineteen ninety. Eight monroe wisconsin. Two men. both priests are driving. It's about eight thirty pm father. Alfred kuhn's the passenger is getting a ride home from his longtime friend and pow father. Fiori a dusty wisconsin. Snow was falling fury and koons had a seventy mile. Drive ahead of them taking them. All the way to the tiny town of dane wisconsin with a population of only about seven hundred hard working god fearing people dane was only a small blip on the big wisconsin map. It was where father alfred koons had called home for many years and for many years he has loved. And taking care of the good people of dane. It was a beautiful night. One of those clear march nights where the snowflakes melt when they touched the pavement. About halfway home father coons became silent and then he started to clam up. Fury looked at his friend and said al. You have been a good friend for so many years. And i love you for that. There was a long pause and father coons looked up. There were large tears running down his face and all he could say was. I know i know around ten pm that night. The two priests had arrived at saint michael's church the destination for father coons. He got out of the car. Father fiori rolled down the car. Window and shouted. Hey al make sure you get yourself something to eat. I will coons yelled back before heading inside and out of the cold most likely within an hour to of arriving home father coons was startled. A noise woke him from his sleep. Someone was in the building. A stranger stepped out of the cold night and into the church and home of father coons but this part of the story is a mystery because we don't know the stranger's name and we cannot see the stranger's face. We can only wonder if father coons knew the name or recognize the face regardless father coons would have greeted the stranger with warmth and kindness. How may i help you my child but the stranger was not seeking the love of god the warmth of the church. He only wanted one thing from father. Kuhn's the stranger. Would greek coons with anger. Maybe an accusatory question. A death threat or words of hatred. The stranger rushes the old priest and attacks forced to defend himself. Father coons fights back as he is being hit repeatedly after a long struggle. The stranger gets up. And he pulls from his co. At night father coons grabs at the blade with his bare hands trying to pry the knife from his assailant. Sadly he is unsuccessful. The stranger put the blade to the side of coons neck and slits the throat of the beloved father. The stranger now covered in blood injured and probably cut stands up and as he gathers himself he curses the priest. Then he steps back out into the cold night. Who was the stranger. Was he a mentally. Ill drifter or some sick twisted satanist or was he someone. The priests had trusted. This is true crime garage and this is the case of father. Alfred coons yeah definitely freak you on there like the nice children singing at the beginning and then it gets dark. Thank you start very dark real quick. That was a that was a case at first when you sometimes when we put the cases on the schedule on the new look back at it. You can't remember what why did we put it on the scheduling. Initially to do doesn't seem like there's much there that would be interesting and then also sudden two days into research in a case like that. You just get wrapped up into it. Yeah that was a weird case in probably one of the lesser known cases. that's on our trailer countdown. That we're featuring this week. That's the murder of father. Alfred kuehne still unsolved nineteen ninety eight case out of dane wisconsin. And i think that would have come to us by way of listeners suggestion. Because i don't know that that's one that we would have found on our own. I'm with you captain. I can't recall where it came from but it was the same thing. It's like on the surface. You go is there. Is there really a story here because it seems like kind of a random misunderstood murder to the point where the police and detectives have been out upfront and honest saying we're not even one hundred percent. Sure what the motive here right was and then you start peeling back the layers and there's a lot to the story. In fact i remember. It was difficult to write the the trailer piece you putting together the music and me putting together the words there and it was difficult to come up with something four that story to lead us into that story and i relied on my one of my favorite quotes there captain from stephen king who said when all else fails give up and go to the library so i remember writing a good majority of that case in that trailer at the local library That is a fantastic trailer. And actually it's one that is so good of course that it made the top three of our top ten because we're so awesome but it's well i mean we're not talking about anybody else's show here today for duty weird if we did at top ten countdown of other people shows it would be. It would be bizarre but it's old enough in our catalog that it's kinda. It was almost forgotten by myself right. Like we're getting to the point now where we've done so many cases in so many shows that i don't wanna forget any of the victims. I don't wanna forget any of the shows that we've done. And so i worry about that and i fear that in when we were putting together our list. This was one that i remembered as soon as i saw the title. And the title is the devil did it. And it's episode one twenty six so way back in the day the i don't remember the earlier stuff because it's when we tried things like luck when you're reading your transcript every now and then a little doubled devil voice comes in and we tried that for a couple of trailers and sometimes it works really needs. It's right place but it's like also like that was one of the first times that there's a separate piece of music before the theme actually started And so i kind of remembered those more but even like when people rag at crime con. They'll go hey. Have you covered this case yet. It's sometimes you go. That sounds familiar. But you know we've done five hundred episodes but think about the amount of cases we've looked into just to put on our our master list of cases to cover eventually. Yeah that's incredible when you when you put it that way. My mind starts racing because it's easily. I mean five times the number of cases that we ended up covering yeah twenty five hundred cases of probably read about in the last five years That's a lot of kill kill murder. Kill well in. unfortunately yes. That's exactly what it is but it's also got to the point now when we receive our people email that's our preferred way to receive a case suggestion is to email it to us. The the blog is there in. I love the people that that want to get a case out there and they say look. I wasn't sure where to put this. So i'm just gonna put this here on this week's blog that goes along with this week's case so god bless you for putting it wherever wherever you can but if you get the opportunity we love to receive them via email would love to have the blog continue. Hopefully the good conversation that you and i put together for that week's case and everybody out there in listener land and imparts unknown can expand on that and put in their own ideas. Their thoughts their theories to i love when we cover an unsolved case. And i get the here a theory that we didn't present or an idea that's outside of the box because those are the things thinking that way those are the things that will ultimately help get these things soft definitely so just a quick recap a number ten. We had son osam number nine. We had to park sha core number eight we had a spam fits three number seven p. t. k. Number six year unabomber number five killing fields number four boys on the tracks number three. The devil did it. 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I think it was a tic tac video or something but he had a muzzle on a on a hyena and he had he had a hyena on like a dog leash. Oh he was trying to control it walking down the street and it was like trying to attack people. It's one of the scariest things. I do not wanna see. I'm terrified. that's one animal. That i'm terrified of at and it's not like it's not like a metal muzzle or anything like a make shift muzzle. But yeah you can't just put a regular muzzle on that thing you need souped up muzzle. I mean that's the one of the creatures i'm terrified of. I think it's partly because they're they're very vicious creatures but you know like but in the cartoons. They're always like laughing. Remember they like do something bad. Yeah the hyenas they sit together and laugh about it afterwards. So not only. Do you end up being dinner. But you are also the butt of all their jokes afterward. Lease somebody's laugh another right. They're like ooh the colonel was extra crispy today. Thank god we got him on with us extra crispy days. Dumb lay count. I chicken all. He got chicken legs now but No but i like Bulldogs and like an pit bulls and and they look like tough dogs. And that's kind of what it looks like at first but this neck is probably i don't know three four times the size and longer to. Yes like freakishly longer as it's scary. What's the world coming to. People are thinking that we're leading up to our insane. Ville shy paynesville trailer. But that's not coming in at number two now on because we had a lawsuit. Were not allowed to talk about insane. Villainy more Poor zanesville everybody kept on saying They called in seines. Ville the town of zanesville sued the garage. Yeah they undisclosed amount of money. I wasn't much but they win. They did win. They didn't but they just what they really want us to stop. Calling it in seines ville. We paid them in bush light. We call it even. There's a couple of other names. That zanesville goes by But not allowed because of the lawsuit. That's right we're sworn to secrecy. We signed nondisclosure agreement. Yeah some some crazy people from zanesville but we can disclose is a big shout to thomas and quarry ville pennsylvania and chelsea and issaquah washington. Yeah and seines kill is what other people call it to So yeah zan's kill so you got insane ville and zan's kill and here comes another loss number two lawsuit number two number two to sit there with his bottles number two all right. So what should we get to number. The following is a letter written insent from maryland prison. You are always asking me about my murders. Well here's one that no one knows about that's right pow. I have never told anyone about this murder. I never had to go far to find a victim for most all truck stops across the. Us had whores working in and around them. This is a story of a young prostitute. I killed in october of nineteen ninety-five. She was working seventy six truck. Stop and reno nevada. I was driving a blue long nose. Peterbilt i was hooked up to a freezer trailer. That's a trailer with a freezer. I beaten raped. That bitch in the sleeper of that truck that night until i grew tired of her then i put my hands on her neck and i began squeezing her screams of pain slowly. Dwindled down to mere rasp of agonizing grunts and groans. The sounds she made slowly faded away never to be heard again sweet. Death had finally come down upon her now. Her body was just a dead carcass laying in wait for the decomposition. To start the breaking down of cells. I laid there with my arms wrapped around her dead body and slept for about three hours. I woke up to my alarm clock going off at five thirty. Am i climbed over her. And i got dressed. I throw a blanket over her. Then i started the truck up. I got out of the truck locked the door and headed over to the coffee shop to grab a bite and check the computer for loads heading east. The closest thing. I saw available to me that i was looking for was a load of ranch house. Salad dressing they wanted taken down to houston texas. The company was located over in sharps nevada. Which is only about twenty five miles north of the truckstop. I decided to accept the job. I grabbed a coffee to go off to the truck i went. I climbed up into the cab and checked everything. Out and off i go. I got to the warehouse in sharps. They had the load but there was no one there because it was saturday morning. Sign on the door. Said they were opened up at nine. Am but it was only seven forty five am so i looked around and there wasn't a damned soul insight. There wasn't nothing around this little business. Part so i thought this would be a perfect place to ditch her off a drag her dead ass outta the truck. I grabbed my little army shovel and off. I went to the back of that. Little warehouse found a nice isolated area back there. I buried her in about forty five minutes. This industrial park wasn't very old so the ground was pretty soft and that's where she is to this day. It was not for another two bodies. Later that i would realize what a waste of all that good meat was only ending up being nothing more than bug and worm food. I have never shed a tear for those. I have killed nor will i down the road. Those sweet young drug addicted prostitutes. That i killed back in my pass. Were pretty much dead to the world. Long before i killed them. They were nothing more than walking zombies looking for a few moments of pleasure from their sick twisted daily lives of shame. I feel. I've done those poor souls of favor. If i feel anything for them. I feel only some jealousy for their pains are over and mine will continue as i sit behind these bars until the day i die i have enclosed closed my tooth for you. We never met. But now you will always have a part of me with you. You take care. Be safe out there. My best friend signed with a thumbprint preston. Blood probably one of our most downloaded cases of all time. And you know what. I actually think that it's probably up there in the world of downloads. Because of your music not necessarily the look. It's a it's a gross disgusting horrific letter that serial killer. Joseph metheny wrote we were. I remembered pound serial killer five hundred pound serial killers what we called him. And that's because that's about. The cause is a fat ass. Well he you know he was a bigger guy when he got arrested for his crimes but he grew he continued to grow and expand while in prison and he seemed to have a good time in prison enjoying writing letters and becoming pen pals with people on the outside and that was just one of his many many letters he was only convicted of two murders suspected of several more and he claims he's one of these dudes ee lies about large portions of his life right and so he claims to have killed several more people than just too but he was a a monster that It's one of those chicken or egg situations right where you go okay. The drugs that he became addicted to they do this to him or was he already evil before he started down that path and of course one. We'll never know but before he passed away in two thousand seventeen he was pretty close. If not over the five hundred pound mark in. If you want to see you think that trailer scary the words that he says there. If you wanna google picture of joseph metheny there's some scary pictures say that and you know he's he just. It's hard to say that even looks Fat he just kind of a big dude. He looks on human right. isn't even look to be human. But yeah you're right. This was one of our more downloaded episodes. And i think a lot of it was. I mean look. That's good music there at the beginning of after but people don't know what the music sounds like before the download the episode. I think but i think he's a title. I found sierra killer. How can you pass that up. That's true you have to be you have to be a psychopathic serial killer to pass up that title so maybe from now on every title is just the weight of one hundred eighty five pounds here. He'll kill the convicted person and in followed by serial killer. Maybe that's what we do. We're trying to have a successful show after this conversation. Everybody's thinking to themselves. If they can do it. Why can't i well. You know what i. I'm thinking the same thing. Yeah hey hey. I a great idea. We should start a podcast and by the way we've had a lot of bourbon so yeah please. Please forgive us with god. It's angels n. vietnam. Which was one that was recommended to us by bob rough and i thought it was angels and the that makes this is what happens. All right. couple shout outs before we forget to do them. The bar you and be run. Jennifer in raleigh north carolina in the captain and krispy. Colonel love north carolina in the me of buffy in lake. Charles see this is what's weird about the the beer shoutouts right when somebody is from a city you say that they are in right so and so is in but when the city name is lake to say that they're in the lake that racism questions right so we say buffy from lake charles louisiana. Hey buffy you'll find yourself and you blew my mind. Hey buffy hopefully on the shores of lake. Charles yeah given. The tan is so frigging hot outside as humid. You go outside. it's thick. it is thick humid. all right so are we. To number one numero on all. Is that where we find ourselves. That i don't know. Why are we find ourselves. Where do you find yourself. Where do you find yourself if somebody told me Five years ago that we would have hit five hundred episodes. I would've said now not gonna happen. I was said maybe two hundred three hundred once we reached the fifty mark two hundred seemed obtainable. Yeah five hundred still seemed very well out of reach question for you then. Do you think we can do. You think we'll hit another five hundred so one of my favorite numbers. And i hate to be that weird guy but i've had enough bourbon that i can versus three now. One of my favorite numbers is nine nine. Nine nine hundred ninety nine so i would like to get to that point. Do you stop at that weird number or do you go two thousand stop at that. No i might stop halfway through that episode. Oh just get up at like you know you know that part where we come back from the from the commercial in the captain goes all right and we're back cheers everybody stealer. You'll hear what's cheers and walk out the garage the out to say and they never saw the crime. I don't know. But i know they're never solve the crime all right. Here's our number one. This is going to please in anger. A lot of people all at the same time six remedy colorado murder victim. Jon benet ramsey unknown intruder jonbenet ramsey interview. The parents john ramsden anybody from that and not more than fund out to responsible that gives me the chills every single time every time hair standing up on the back of my neck. Don't ask me why there's so much hair on the of my neck. Yeah but nowhere else. Like on the collar Yeah well but technically that was also a theme. You're right so the we we kinda broke our own count. We screwed screwed it up because there were some trailers not in every going off a memory here not in every we did a six parter jon benet joe and that was as the captain said kind of the theme that started every one of those six episodes and we started that with episode number three five five and did that for almost the entire month of december. Yeah we always liked to try to take off around christmas. Plus people get really busy with the holidays. So it's hard for them to keep up. I mean hack. I mean we put out so much content that i hear from listeners. All the time. It's hard to keep up with you guys well and hearing patsy ramsey regardless of your feelings if she's guilty or innocent hearing her in kudos to you captain for taking those clips and piecing them and putting them so perfectly into the music that you created but hearing panic patsy ramsey and they're really evokes a lot of emotion one way or the other. Just hearing are speaking or crying out. In regards to the the murder of jon benet. Yeah the thing too is like because that case to me and i'm sure you will agree. It seems like such a christmas time case. Yes you know. not only. That's when the murder took but it's also the pictures that you see leading up in an afterwards and so using Little themes from christmas. I mean obviously like when you hear sleigh bells makes you think of christmas so to throw throw in sleigh bells to use some themes from like oh holy night Us some choir sounds because that's also something that you hear more around that time frame and just Then once you start hearing those sound clips. I'm gonna say this and maybe listeners would agree christmas songs become so familiar and so there's this nostalgia every time you hear one when you hear. Have yourself amir though. Christmas doesn't matter who sing. It doesn't matter if it's old version new version it's like there's nostalgia there and now on around christmas time we start playing the same movies over and over the christmas story in national lampoon's christmas vacation. you start seeing a home alone and they start playing those over and over and over. But what's interesting about a case as big as jon benet ramsey case as almost all those clips that you here in the trailer or theme of wanna call it their nostalgic now because they've been a part of so many documentaries been part of so many Nights researching the case. Like that where you hear those clips over and over and over so really kind of becomes a part of your fabric of your past. Well while we're talking about things that we you know reminisce on and things that we miss and things that we want to hear more of a little piece in there too. Is dan rathers voice. Yeah i miss. Dan rathers voice. I loved you know. I wasn't a news guy when i was a kid. Obviously or or even as a young adult but all may maybe you are just a little bit and that's how you got the hair on your neck right. He was always there and he was always like the poster child of the news for me. Yeah and his voice is just. I mean he's got a beautiful voice and you always felt like you know what no matter what you know. I have different things that i could tune into different stations to go to but when dan rather was delivering a piece of information to you it just felt like the gospel right. It just felt like the like this guy could could do. No wrong could tell us no wrong. And i do miss me. Some hard miss the fact that the news used to be news and not a bunch of opinions. There you go used to be like we were sharing this information because we want you to be informed and we want all of our citizens to know what's going on and know the truth So they can make informed decisions and become smarter people and society and we could all grow together and now they want everybody fighting against everybody and they want. they don't want anybody to know the truth and You know don't sad times. Don't mention fighting too much with that weird guy. That's in the corner. That did the. The county started pulling out of the bottles getting. He's getting a little weird. We'll whoo oh put that. Put that bottle back in well on that note. Shout out to brandon and say and a shout the lord in sanger texas old sanger tech's because at least it wasn't pflueger ville pflueger ville pflueger. Vishnu greville. I still have my pflueger. Ville belt buckle. You know what ladies and gentlemen to announce here for the very first time right. 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The Final Blast

Bomber

34:15 min | 2 years ago

The Final Blast

"Bomber describes the real life manhunt for serial bomber the events are sometimes graphic and intended for mature audience. Listener discretion is advised last time on bomber. Once we find this guy gotta get a swat team there. We've got to take him down. We cannot let him get away. We have got to get this guy. Now, you know, it got to a point where you're just going on and Drennan because you had to keep up with with what was going on in that final three day period. I'm Jason Puckett. And this is bombing. Jude now. Calls Ma was. Tuesday March twentieth. Twenty eighteen we don't know it yet in the newsroom, but twenty three year old Mark Anthony Condit has been identified as the Austin bomber. It's almost three weeks after the first bomb exploded and Condit's house. Just outside of Austin is being watched by police as night falls. Investigators have decided to wait until morning to move in and make an arrest. But they're not sure if he's even their ATF special agent in charge Millan house-key in Mexico border. The last thing we want to do is work this entire case. And finally identified a suspect and that get out in the public and he hits the road, and we're chased them in which as some to Mexico or central South America. I mean, just all those things are going through your head that we need to try to be tight on this. And then back at the command center, there's a buzz of excitement Condit makes a mistake. We've got an order on his phone. He just turned it on. And so we know where his phone is. Now his phone had been off. All day. And so now, we know where is and he's half a mile from my hotel. Millon hausky is literally just around the corner from the suspect's location. The parking lot of a hotel in round rock, Texas. That's another area just outside of Austin. The news is like an electric shock to the frayed nerves of the team of investigators exhaustion is now mixed with adrenaline and focus FBI special agent charge. Chris combs, new reclose. We knew we finally had a suspect and we desperately wanted to stop him. And it just went on and on. And finally, we call it a night because it just got so late. And then literally we all went home in the minute. We got back to hotels they found him. And we had a roll out again. So that's probably the longest day I've ever worked in my life. Nobody wants to stop, you know, not that when you're that close. You know, everyone every investigator everyone's been investigator more than you know, five minutes is smelling that we're we're close to nine here. I want to be part of it. And so that was the most difficult part was trying to get people to get some. And some downtime, particularly those final four days as the news of the bombers location comes in Austin police, the swat team ATF and FBI agents members of the Lone Star fugitive task force. They're all closing in on that hotel in round rock, Texas ranger was with us in the command post, I called him and said we need every resource you have to go to that hotel and secure the scene. So that we can start moving swat teams being as dangerous as he was. We didn't want normal cops coming up on that car. We wanted to make sure we had it tactically trained team. So I asked EPS get up there surround that hotel were common. This is where training and planning comes into play everyone knows their job. But there's still a lot of uncertainty. Interim Austin police chief Brian Manley admitted the command center when the news came in. I responded directly from our command center straight to the scene in round rock and stood by a nearby parking lot awaiting for what we were hoping was going to be. A successful apprehension of the suspect Brian Manley. It must have felt like a long drive up to round rock with time to think about what was about to go down the thinking of all the different ways that this may transpire, you know, that this is an individual who is willing to kill innocent people who is willing to kill random people and the likelihood of him being armed either with a traditional firearm or with more explosive devices knowing that however this played out it was going to be a very dangerous operation to scene had probably been on his mind over and over again over the past twenty days. But now, it's actually happening. A serial bomber a Twenty-three-year-old with seemingly no motive and no consideration for human life sitting in a pickup truck outside a hotel in the middle of the night members of the Austin police swat team also get the call about Condit's location. Several of us were were sent home. And it was on the way home just in that short span of time from leaving. Work to getting home that we received some critical updates from something investigative units and some updates about the potential location of the suspect. And so the plan was to get Austin police swat team in place with their what's called a bearcat or armored vehicle. So that they can execute in rest warrant behind cover from safety of of the bearcat like a lot of special units within police departments. Swat team is a close knit and devoted team. They trained for countless hours to be ready for something just like this training together forty plus hours a week being on call rotation. Always being called back on holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas, whatever it may be and in spending that time together late at night early in the mornings you develop that closed on the man in charge of the team is sergeant Brandon Ellsworth are straining emissions was. And so with that being said everything that we do they they put that first and foremost in their training in their tactic. At the us. That's that's what's ingrained in these guys. And that's what makes the team successful is their ability to act in dangerous situations within result being saving saving on Vance at eleven swat officers were mobilized to a location near the hotel, we review blocks from the hotel where we could quickly moved to that location that we needed to. But we're also out aside from being visible him and just in a react decision to where we could move. We were trying to get our tactical vehicles. They afford ballistic protection and would've allowed for much safer operation. We're trying to get all of those resources. They're basically, ideally we would have liked to have contained him early on from a distance mean able to to deal with him in gain control over him to allow him the ability to peacefully surrender swat team police federal agents, they're all waiting for that tactical vehicle to arrive the red Ford ranger doesn't move. They're ready. If it does we had already talked about if he. Moves you have to take him down because we didn't want him to get away. They keep waiting and watching and waiting some more. Or we all were there in the parking lot getting ready to implement our plan. We had got notification that suspect was leaving the location. He was at parking lot. He was at and became mobile. That's when we were notified that the suspect was now driving away the team is in two N's. Plus, you get the surveillance team. So they follow him. He gets on the access road of the frontage road. It appears like he's gonna try to get on thirty five. Once you sort of moving. We knew that the likelihood of him evading, we're not going to be able to pursue vehicles that we were in obviously, we knew the likelihood of my bathing, and again, the public being risk and abroad view. This guy could have had vices planet. You could have devices that he works was planning. So we knew that we had to quickly detain him in order to gain some compliance. To stop the threat everyone's training kicked in. I think we realized the severity of that moment and. I think everyone understood in that moment that there was potentially a high likelihood of him having a device on him. And so we knew in that moment that this. This was likely the are are only opportunity here at this moment was to hopefully intervene before he hopped on the highway or he potentially went into the city or a location of public location and an injured more people. And that's when we we committed the plant, basically assault vehicle to to stop it and to stop his mobility from gaining access to the general public. It was really the only option we have that time. There's helicopter video of what happens next you could see Condit's truck, leaving the hotel parking lot, followed by two vans, and then a convoy of vehicles the video is pale black and white footage. Eerily quiet considering the drama unfolding. But the audio tells the story as Condit's truck begins to pick up speed on the move back and how now. I got an eastbound eastbound lane coming up to thirty five front engine be taking a right turn southbound on the thirty five hundred or thirty five front agent old settlers, and he's a bully stopper. Still red intersection. I were through the intersection southbound still on the front page of old settlers for the laser. Swat vans. Make a pin? Maneuver one van in front of the bomber struck the other behind that and make contact with event may contact before Rangers pinned in and comes to a stop once. We stock in the vans were able to to safely stop. You got sorted many tactics. Austin swat team officers, Vincent Garcia, and rob Justice and ran toward the passenger side of the suspects. Con. Essential Rhys was there for him to have devices and then the final blunt explosion. No, it's funny. I don't remember hearing the blast. I saw it. I'm I'm sure it was loud at that point. But you're so focused on doing what you can do to help your team mate. I've a slide recollection of often out here in allowed what sounded to me like an explosion had not seen what ad hurt at that time. But it was apparent to me. It was something other than possibly gunfire or something like that that I'm used to through our training experience. My biggest concern the sergeant on the team is putting my guys at risk. I saw the explosion. So the first officer that that kind of fell back from that explosion. That's the person that was doing was checking on to make sure that he was good the helicopter footage shows a bright violent flash erupt out of the right side of the truck swat officers blown back. But he's okay. You literally had Austin police officers running towards a vehicle that had an explosive device in it that detonated that is. Unbelievable, courage. Those are heroes inside the vehicle. The bomber is no longer a threat. Mark Anthony Condit is the final victim of his own deadly homemade bomb. Brian Manley was driving in a long convoy of vehicles behind the final blast scene. When Mark Condit's life came to an end, he could take a deep breath. But Austin wasn't out of the woods yet. Sense of of relief in that we had the bomber. But you cannot take complete confidence that it's over because we've not yet investigated him to know was he working alone or was he working in concert with other people? Did he plays additional devices in the mail or under steps or somewhere else in our community or another community? So there is that sense of relief in that you now have you've at least accounted for the the primary suspect at that point. But we still had a lot of investigation to do to make sure that this wasn't part of something larger or that there were not more people still involved. Now, it's two o'clock three o'clock in the morning. And again, I got to get people out of bed. Come process this scene. We still don't know fees alone wolf this guy, all by himself or does he have co-conspirators or other people have been helping him back at the station. We were hearing about the final explosion at sending reporters to the scene if you were awake in watching the news that night, you would have seen. Our news director, Tim Ryan, tell us. In the news. It was three nine thousand nine hundred. I'm Tim Ryan on the news director here at cave you and we have information from Tony PLO head ski who works for cave. You and the Austin American statesman confirmation that the suspect and these bombings is dead. We cannot attribute that source right now. But Tony is is reporting that the suspect is dead. Gave you reporter j Wallace was our I reporter on the scene of the first blast on March second he would also be our first reporter on the scene of the final explosion. I've never seen something like this just on the highway. I thirty five you saw this line of just flashing red and blue lights police the fire department EMS swat every single department. You can think of they were they're lined up for maybe half a mile along the highway before the sun came up that Wednesday morning Brian Manley confirmed the news to all of us. You could tell when Manley came over before he had the press conference within a swarm of just I've never seen a semi cer- semicircle like that in my life of so many people reporters and just media. But before he stepped up to the Mike you could see it on his face. You could see it just in how he was talking to people. You can hear what he was saying. But there is a different facial expression. There is a different. There's just a different look to him as members of the Austin police department swat team approached the vehicle the suspect detonated. A bomb inside the vehicle knocking one of our swat officers back and one of our swat officers fired at the suspect as well. The suspect is deceased and has significant injuries from a blast that occurred from detonating a bomb inside his vehicle. Manley confirmed what we knew the bomber was dead. We did learn the officer had fired his weapon, but the blast was the cause of the death. We still didn't know the bomber's name. We cannot name the suspect that this time because he has not been positively identified yet by the medical examiner and next of kin have not yet been notified. But if we thought we'd heard the last of Manley safety warnings, we were wrong. I want to continue that message as we stand here this morning, though, because we don't know where this suspect has spent his last twenty four hours, and therefore we still need to remain vigilant to ensure that no other packages are. Devices have been left through the community. We couldn't let our guard down yet in the investigation was moving into a new face chief said we're not done yet. It's a long day head. We are concerned that there may be other packages that are still out there. We need the public to remain vigilant. Especially today as we go through this investigation as I said this investigation is ongoing. We wanna make sure that we have confirmed that he either acted alone. Or if there were any accomplices that we identify them one thing in particular that they were able to obtain was a Google search history from Google showing the different websites that Condit had been searching in recent days, a Thornberry's were able to confirm by looking at that Google search history that conduct was looking up addresses and other places in Austin and nearby communities as well and fat I'm told that last night that prompted authorities to actually dispatch law. Forcement officers to those addresses to warn those homeowners that they may be in danger into actually check those front porches to ensure that there were no packages there. And there were still not even a hint of a motive nothing do not know what the motive was behind that. And hopefully as we continue this investigation, we will uncover some facts. So that we can try and understand. Although this is something that there is no rationale four. But we could try and understand what his motive was. Thank you very much before we knew the bomber's name. We learned where his house was. And we knew that police weren't taking any chances. When I first got here this morning around five o'clock, the trooper said that they believed that there were people a person or people inside the house still, and that's one of the reasons that he was almost nervous. He said you need to get back. You really need to leave. The biggest fear here is perhaps a any kind of booby traps. I mean, this is a person that was able to set a trip wire and has a sophisticated knowledge of bomb-making. And so they. Wanna make sure that when they go into that home that everyone is safe. And also they have to wait for a warrant. I think that's one of the reasons why it has taken so long Condit turns out at roommates and police really didn't know if they were involved or not or at any knowledge of what was going on and marquan was capable of building deadly bombs possibly right there inside his home. So it was more agents in officers started showing up in Pflueger Ville at Condit's house. We finally got a name we were able to learn that the bomber's name was Mark Anthony Condit. He was a twenty three year old man from Travis county. He lived in an awesome suburb called Pflueger Ville. And so across Austin the name Mark Condit was quickly spreading along with the news. You've blown himself up early that morning. We went to work trying to learn anything we could about his background, but one of the striking things about the bomber is that his social media footprint was really Barron. There was not a lot of information about the bomber out there. Khanna's parents live near. By in the same neighborhood. We learned that he was renovating his house with his father. We also learned that he had been home schooled that he was working for garage door repair company at the time. And really this blit picture of him emerged on the one hand he was going to work while at the same time going home and planting these bombs we had so many questions. How did he built his bumps? Did anyone else know why did he target some victims and not others? We eventually learned where he built the devices he had to roommates who later told authorities that he was so secretive that he actually kept a padlock on his door. And so they never really knew what was going on in his room. I think for someone who doesn't know every facet of the investigation. It's certainly question to say how did somebody live in the same house as sky and not know because if you've been in the house he lived in. His room never left his room. He had padlocks on his room. They weren't three friends. They were three people living in the same house. So he did all his work in his room. He didn't really socialize with the other people. So I think it it certainly within the realm of possibility. In fact, we believe it is an accurate statement to say that the roommates didn't know joining the throng of press from outside Texas, Josh Margolin with ABC news was in Austin covering the case because of the fears connected with how much explosive materially had in his home that a number of blocks influ Ville had been evacuated. So then there was a press conference later in the afternoon with Pflueger villa authorities, and they were encouraging people to be calm, but they still were not going to let everybody back into their homes. You know, just as a side point to that. We've since learned that there was so much explosive material in the home that there was an active consideration that they have just leveling the house and not even risking law enforcement personnel by search. It. They ended up not doing that. They felt that it was able to be rendered safe enough. So they could send in robots and send people into to find out what they could about about the perpetrator, which is always ideal. But their point was they didn't they they knew the perpetrator was dead, and they didn't want to risk people's lives by going in there. So there was so much explosive material they were thinking about leveling the home we continue digging into the bombers passed is family neighbors. Anyone who could help us unravel. The terror mystery of the bombings was the oldest of four siblings. He did have three younger sisters. He also was home schooled, according to some family photos on Facebook. But that did change when he attended Austin community college. He did go there for about two years from two thousand ten to two thousand twelve and never graduated. We do know that he was most recently unemployed as well at the age of twenty three years old as of late August. Yes. Last year he was fired from his job at the cruise manufacturing because he just wasn't meeting the job expectations. The owner of the store described him as introverted. Quiet. We're also learning that he kept the blog. He isn't posted on it for a couple years. But looking back at some of the posts he did show his views on some controversial topics like abortion as well as where he stood in terms of his his ideas of homosexuality. So those are up there on the internet as well. He does have a Facebook page with only about fifteen friends. So you can really tell he wasn't a social butterfly to say, the least we've talked to one neighbor who said he seems nice friendly pretty normal from what she could tell he was in my home, and I didn't feel threatened in any way. He was very nice, but whatever was going through his mind that causing to want to do these things you do start to think about while every day, we back out of our driveway and almost ended up in his driveway because the street so small what kept him I guess from wanting to hurt us. He did a horrible thing. It was horrible. And but he he has a family to that that lost a son and as a mother of signs or any children the loss of. Child is I can't even imagine Sierra Davis had gotten to know Condit a few years earlier in a Christian home school group. It had been a few years, but she considered him a friend at the time. He was a nice guy. He was a little bit forceful in some of the things he said, but he was never mean or rude. He made a terrible twice to do. Terrible things. But the blame is on him not on his family. We need to focus more on taking care of those that are mentally ill. Those that have tendencies to be violent as a cave, you reporter working on a new project called verify I was working on various aspects of the case as well. Helping to clear up rumors and set the record straight as much as I could Kelly Kilmore. We've heard reports today that that was the name. The suspect us on the boxes he sent through FedEx, we can verify through the FBI and APD that is true verify tonight next up we want to get into a question of background checks and some of these conversations online. The ones you're looking at people keep posting these pages seeming to show that Condit was a Republican or a democrat how much money he may what his life was like we want to point out this site is false in this case. We're gonna move it into the false category. Anyone can get onto this site that folks keep referencing and change the information to say, whatever they want at that time. Finally, we're going to talk about white supremacy a little bit tonight. A lot of folks online have been asking if that is possibly Condit's motivation in all of this while APD said there may be some hints possibly towards motivation at this time, we have no confirmed evidence or clues to lead us towards believing. It was white supremacy or any to say that it wasn't. We're going to work on answering that leave at unconfirmed for now. It is we continued to dig and try to uncover what we could. There was one more disturbing detail that we didn't know you in the hours leading up to the final explosion and Condit's death. He made a thirty minute recording on his on this recording. This suspect described the six bombs that he constructed with. The level of specificity that he identified the differences among those six bombs. Investigators are still going through that video to see if they can find out any more information about the suspect and his motives, but they do believe all those bombs are now accounted for. But ultimately, the recording left us with more questions than answers. I know everybody is interested in a motive and understanding why and we're never going to be able to put a ration behind these acts. But when I can tell you having listened to that recording. He does not at all mention anything about terrorism, nor does he mention anything about hate. But instead, it is the outcry of a very challenged young man talking about challenges in his personal life that led him to this point. That's what the story has become that. There may be no answer other than this man as he called himself, a psychotic or psychopath. Somebody who had been motivated by the rush. Of hurting people which is just not normal. If the tape didn't reveal the bomber's motive investigators hoped something else would and they still wanted to make a one hundred percent sure that he acted alone that the Austin bombings really had ended with Mark Condit's death FBI special agent in charge. Chris combs, we went through every single computer that he had every single hard drive the phones everything we could find financial data because one of our concerns was that anybody else. No. Was it just him was there? Anybody else connected to the case. So we have literally spent the last year. Going through all those terabytes and everything that we had to make sure that he was the only one involved and we've done that we feel very confidently that it was singular in nature. He was the bomber. No one else was involved. It would take time to know that though it would be almost a year before the FBI closed the case, but across Austin, you could feel a change in the air the stress the fear the anxiety. It started to lift investigators reporters residents, we could all start to think about life after the bombings detective Orlando Ramirez with Austin homicide since March second was the first. Night that I could actually sleep. So your body realized that you've been going through a lot of stress and then once he realized that you got somebody. He might not hurt anybody else. That's when I felt some relief that was able to sleep for a little while. I realized how heavy it was at the end once in once I was able to get some rest and realize that, you know, for the last couple of three weeks, you know, life has not been the same. And once I got back to my routine. I realize how much of. Heavy. The case was just giddy. My car, I truly did just let it aside relief a physical Cy. I don't do that often. But I just needed to because I just said felt like I had gone through three years of work in a month's time. And just to know that not only the city was safer, but you know, we would be able to slowly but surely move on past this as a new station. Yes, it's important. It's a part of our job. Obviously, we have to keep people up to date with this type of thing. But to know that we would be able to move on as a station along with our city. It was a hundred percent of relief. And it just felt good to X hail because you kind of needed to after what we had been through. I would say that apartment and all the agencies involved noticed, you know, an outpouring support immediately following enduring this whole this whole timeframe, and then even since the release of the video recently from DPS and the department that coming coming back to light a little bit. But. You know, the job carried on for us. The next day the weeks following we had operations to do. We were still getting calls from other units to assist them with their stuff. And so the work continued. And so I think guys just just realizing that and that that this was a big critical incident no-one downplays that but tomorrow's a new day. There are still a lot of people who want to hear the bombers tape. Ryan Manley has now moved on from interim chief to Austin police chief Brian manly. And he's vowed it will never be released. I still have the same concerns that I've always a year ago about the release of the audio. The audio releasing that would end up on the internet where his voice will live in infamy forever. I think that it would be something that people would go to maybe for inspiration. If we have people that are considering committing these horrendous violent acts, I think it would give him a level of notoriety that he does not deserve. And it does nothing to make. Anybody any more educated about why he did what he did. Or how he did what he did. And it does nothing to make communities safer. Instead, I only see the downside that it could inform others of missteps that he took that he self identified as maybe allowing us to to capture him. And I just don't think it's wise to put that out there to better educate or or equip someone who might try to carry out this attack on a community somewhere else. I know that people want to know why it happened as I said earlier, I want to know why it happened releasing this audio will will not give us that. So I know there's a lot of questions about releasing the audio the reason that I personally have so many concerns about it, and the FBI is he goes through almost an after action of what he did wrong. How we caught him. And we certainly don't want to put that out there. So that other bad people can learn how to do it better. And also the fear is and today. As world that video will be on the internet forever. And we've seen with a lot of other mass casualty events that people. Look back on previous mass casualty events and want to emulate them. And we certainly don't want that to happen. Over time. Some details of the tape have leaked out. I think what's most disturbing on the audiotape is the fact that he wasn't done that he had plans to do more attacks of different size and capacity from listening to that tape. I am one hundred percent convinced that had we not taken him down the night that we did there would have been further bombings in the future. And in the manifesto. You know, we were able to succeed in obtaining certain quotes from the Matt from the the bombers confession, the whole recording has not been released, but certain quotes have been able to to get out. And we have a number of them that we've reported on any talks about almost like a joy, ride thrill seeking element that he thought this. Was going to give him a rush and it did for a while, and then it stopped. But then you think about the human toll on the other end, and you realize that there are alive families that are brutally permanently changed, and it's just so sad. And terrifying in the end, we're left with the memory of the bombings the images of the explosions. The memory of our collective fear. Some of us are left with physical scars that will never disappear injured victims like seventy five year old Esperanza hope Herrera and some of us are left with the memory of a family member who left us too soon, a seventeen year old musician the thirty nine year old father and husband. We were also left feeling like, maybe our city had lost something the feeling that. It's the kind of thing that happens somewhere else. Why Austin why our city for all indications and all evidence appears at it was legitimate just random places. Said these device now he he intentionally one of these devices go off intention wanted to kill people. We do know that this wasn't an accident. So he built these devices knowing how they worked and how they function and he wanted to kill people. And he, you know, obviously got off by killing people knowing that his devices we kill people I was angry because he made us go through all of this community. He took the peace away from Austin. And it was senseless. It was no reason behind it hurting the people that he hurt. So today, we we don't believe, and we didn't believe back then that the victims are connected in any way, other than his demented mind the conversation and debate about releasing Mark Condit's final recorded confession will continue. Maybe if we heard his voice, we might be able to answer why why at twenty three year old man with no criminal history in no obvious message. Of hate or ideology or motive chose to do what he did those who have heard the recording people like Brian Manley. Brad Miller hausky Chris combs. They've all listened. They still ask why we do know that Condit's recording and did with a chilling line. I wish I were sorry. But I'm not perhaps that's all we need to know. It's a glimpse into the killer's mind. But for most of us who are living in Austin in March twenty eighteen we can't help it stop at times and think back and ask why? I will never say his name. I won't. I never have. I never will. Bomber is a production of all studios and cave. You were available at apple podcasts. Spotify Google play and other major listening platforms. You can also listen and learn more at bomber podcasts dot com. Our executive producer is will Johnson. My thanks to the people of Austin, my colleagues cave, you federal investigators and the men and women of the Austin police department.

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A Close Call

Bomber

30:02 min | 2 years ago

A Close Call

"Bomber describes the real life. Man hunt for a serial bomber the events are sometimes graphic and intended for mature audience. Listener discretion is advised last time on bomber you know, that this is an individual who is willing to kill innocent people who is willing to kill random people. But this is about as dangerous as it gets this week pink gloves, a blonde wig surveillance video red pickup truck and the smell of burnt wire. He could go into the wind anywhere in America. So let's say he found out we were after him. And then he goes to Florida and starts blowing up things in Florida. I'm Jason Puckett. And this is bomber. Now. Calls Ma was. Monday, March nineteenth twenty eighteen the night after a trip wire had exploded in a quiet Austin neighborhood on the west side of town, injuring two victims phones started ringing in Ramaz police chief Brian Manley got the call just before midnight. So I received a phone call from the special agent in charge of the FBI. Christopher combs, letting me know that there had been in an explosion at a FedEx facility in shorts Texas back at his hotel room just outside of Austin ATF special agent in charge. Fred Millan hausky was making phone calls to. Fortunately, we had a team that was in San Antonio, which was close proximity the shirts, they responded, they're immediately shirts his about sixty five miles south of Austin, actually, closer to San Antonio the scene of the attack was outside Austin police limits but Manley new they'd need all the help. They could get it was greatly concerning because now what we had was attacks that we're focused on the city of Austin had now. Now spread beyond the city's boundaries and into another city. So were we going to see this bomber now start moving around in a much larger area, which could make things more difficult, and we could potentially have to split resources as we're investigating in multiple different communities. We race to the scene along with news crews from nearby San Antonio. Package bomb explodes. This time at FedEx facility, just outside of San. Antonio. This case now has to major Texas cities on edge early this morning a package exploded on a conveyor belt at the FedEx facility insurance, injuring a woman. The F B I says the shirts blast could be connected to the deadly Austin explosions. We started to hear more about what had happened. The blast went off shortly before midnight went about seventy five or so fed ex employees were on the clock inside the warehouse. One person was injured. She was knocked off her feet when that package exploded and she got a concussion, but again, we're told that she is expected to be okay j Wallace joined the swarm of reporters on the scene in shirts, Texas. It's another place that doesn't tie to the other spots where the bombs were not only geographically, but in terms of what type of facility or place or neighborhood it just. Yeah. It made it even more confusing which. Also made it scarier like I said, you don't know where the next one is going to happen. It was a FedEx like no one who would have guessed that after the first three in residential type areas. Then a FedEx that just through all of us for loop and like other blastings over the past eighteen days. Jay had to be careful what he was saying on air, and how he was saying you have to you have to straddle a fine line. I will say when you're doing when I was doing this type of report knowing so little information you can't scare people, but you need to make them aware. And given the information, you know, right? We heard from residents living near the scene of the fifth blast again familiar voices of fear and concern at this thing. It's kinda crazy that happened not close to where we live, and especially if I get a package now, I'm on high alert with that this is way too many and says a small timeframe, I am a law enforcement officers wife, and so this plays into that these alternately this is effecting. Only people at FedEx. But now, we have we have swat we have cert speedy. Bed mood. I ain't going pie bomb or suit. Somebody get Cup of coffee say, hey draft board. It's surreal, you know. It's you supposed to feel safe at home, and that all this happens. And you're second guessing everything you're walking out the door. Check it around doorsteps and everything. So it's it's real scary. And once again, we heard familiar warnings. If you have a package that was not expected do not touch it. Do not move it, but contact nine one one police here across central Texas again today asked people not to panic, but instead simply to be on alert the last eighteen days since these bombings started have brought with them more than twelve hundred calls to report suspicious packages that is here in Austin alone. But behind the scenes investigators were collecting evidence, and what was probably the biggest break in the case yet after weeks of dead ends in wrong turns they had a possible lead FBI special. Agent in charge. Chris combs when the bomb went off at the shirts fed ex specifically, and we responded FedEx turned over all the information. They could about that package. ABC news lead investigative reporter, Josh Margolin was following developments closely this box came from which truck which came from which location. That's how the system works. You know, it's a kind of a hub and spoke system. So they're they're doing that. Then they send investigators to the one FedEx location where the bomber had shipped the packages cave you in Austin American statesman reporter, Tony Paige, head ski was getting more info from his sources to we learned where the package had been mailed from before arriving at the FedEx warehouse shirts, the bomber had gone into a FedEx store on Brody lane. It's in a suburban community of Austin called sunset valley just outside the city limits and the bomber actually went into that store and shipped two explosive devices that were bound for two separate addresses. And Austin too devices. We knew about the one that made it to the shirts warehouse, but another package was out there. So while the clues coming in where the first real turning point in the case, the reality of another package in the mail system was deeply disturbing. So th authorities become very terrified that this person is relying upon private carriers like FedEx to ship packages. Also, there was this big question of whether or not there were others in any sort of mail distribution system at that point or any other private carrier system at that point. And so investigators became immediately even more concerned about the esscalation of the bomber. So the conversations that we were having were whether or not we needed to really ground all of the delivery trucks for this carrier have them park them in a secluded place away from residential areas away from populated areas and get the drivers away from the trucks until we could account for that package that we knew was in the. System somewhere. And it wasn't just delivery trucks. They were talking about. There was a much bigger concern, you now have the possibility that bombs have been placed in the mail distribution system. Whether it be through the US postal service or through one of the private carriers all of whom use planes to fly parcels across this country. But as the grappled with the weight of that realization, there was good reason to be optimistic. The fact that they had traced the bomber back to a FedEx location in Austin, also meant they had video inside the store Beckett is hotel the ATS Fred Millan hausky received an image from investigators. I got the first pictures of the suspect mailing those devices. But they were a long way from being able to identify him the figure in the video was in disguise are is March. It's texas. It was warm and he's got gloves on he's got a wig on. He's got a hat on. You know, it just looked out of place. Just from the start of the go treadmill? Now ski needed proof that this was the person who mailed the bombs. You know in Atlanta with Richard jewel. We got you know, way down a rabbit hole against somebody that unfortunately was not involved. And so we wanted to make sure that that never happened again. So my first call was to my intelligence group supervisor said are wheel hundred percent sure, this is the individual mail these packages nasal let me get back with you. And he did some check in call me back. Ten minutes later and said, yes, we verified it hundred percent. This is the individual that mailed the package that detonated in the church Texas facility. All eyes were on that surveillance video now in the person investigators needed to talk to a sap was the employees at that store where the packages had been dropped off in mailed. We had to wait until eight AM for him to report to be interviewed. So agents went out and interviewed him. And he was able to give us significant information. You know, he said, yes that guy was very strange. In fact, he smelt like Burt wire the FedEx clerk thought the man was off enough that he followed. Him out of the store. Chris combs with the FBI. He had seen a car that the thought maybe the guy came out of it was just a description of a red Ford truck. And then we showed them pictures of stock photos of small repair up trucks, and he narrow down to a red Ford ranger at some of the previous bombings that had been sightings of suspicious red Ford truck. So we knew we were looking for a red Ford ranger now, maybe you're in traffic right now look around you might see a few red four pickups close by now think about expanding your search area by several blocks or neighborhoods. Now think about how many red Ford pickups might be in the city of Austin or in the state of Texas that's a long list, but that's what investigators had to work with that morning. And the video of the bomber did give them a few clues as well. He had a picture of the man. So we could figure out his height body type who's Caucasian. So a lot of that helped us start getting into how do we narrow it down to that one person later on after we all saw? Aw. The fed ex video replayed over and over and saw the strange footage of someone wearing a wig gloves dropping off a package. Many. And Austin were angry outraged even that the store clerk hadn't done more. Chris combs doesn't share those feelings. I think it's unfair to judge anybody in hindsight to be a Monday morning quarterback. I can tell you this. We went to that FedEx store an interview that person. He could not have been more helpful did did he miss some things. Maybe he wasn't looking for him. It was a whole different. Way that the guy was and packages. So I can't fault that guy. I can tell you that once we get there. He did with any citizen should have done. And he he gave us everything that he could. And that was extremely helpful. Well, this is all going on. Remember that second package was still out there in the mail system. And the bomber was clearly not slowing down. The bomber at this point is really doing all he can to thwart their efforts keep in mind until this time period. Authorities at been warning the public not to open suspicious packages left at their doorstep. But now by shipping them through FedEx. The bomber is able to sidestep that public safety message and sidestep that urgent plea by law enforcement. I was scared for our community because knowing how successful this bomber had been knowing that they had some level of skill and building these devices because they were able to build them and deliver them and actually have them explode showed that they had some level of skill. But it was so important that we let the community know that we cannot panic because in in a panic situation, people don't think straight. They don't think thoroughly sometimes. And if we could all work together, you know, as a law enforcement community and our community in getting out these so important safety messages and following some of the procedures we put out that we could keep ourselves safe because these bombs were exploding as they were being handled. And so we were working so hard. That afternoon a sigh of relief. The second package is found at another FedEx warehouse closer to Austin like the first FedEx package, it's addressed to a business in Austin. It was still intact at the warehouse the bomb squads of very impressively went in and they rendered that device safe. So of thorns, unfortunately, were not able to gain any clues from that second device like a handwriting sample or any sort of fingerprints. But the good news is that they stopped that devise prior to making its destination. And prior to anyone else getting hurt later on. We learned the return address on both packages was labeled with a name Kelly kill more eventually investigators try to figure out why certain businesses were targeted by the bomber we spent hours interviewing those potential victims. And none of them could really tell us that they knew them or why they thought they were victims. Whatever was happening behind the scenes, we could all tell there was. A new sense of energy of urgency. Among investigators ABC news, Josh Margolin. We had the distinct sense of speed and things happening quickly in those hours after the two devices at the FedEx location, the one exploded device the one unexploded device things were already starting to get ahead of steam at the command center with the investigative groups starting to put things together. FBI analysts had two lists. Now, the list from state police with the names of everyone in Texas with a red Ford ranger, and they had the list they'd been putting together ever since the first attack with the names of anyone who bought a component used in the bombs humil-. You have hundreds of people on there. Now, you can start looking at those people running all vehicles registered to say. Does anyone have a red Ford ranger, and it's like a puzzle, and you just keep putting it together at the same time DPS provided us a listing of individuals in state of taxes that have a red for ranger registered to them. So he can run every person in Texas that has. Red truck, and you have a list. So we take those two things and try to match them, and you get names. And then you take those names, and you compare it against the names of every single person that's ever gone to other hundred stores, but the process would be painstaking with analysts poring through records and looking at hundreds and hundreds of names, this is Intel analysts and investigators going through all those pieces to find connections. It's by hand. I know Hollywood wants to tell you that we have these great computers that go through all that and seconds. I can tell you for the Austin bomb, and it was individuals doing great work going through hundreds of boxers of records. One of those analysts was tour. Donna Nesselbush she'd been with the FBI for twelve years and with the bureau in Austin for five she started looking through a stack of receipts and the name on those receipts and cross checking with the records pounding away hour by hour going through paper trying to find that big that big one thing that would get us over. She started. Typing in names looking for a match. Did anyone buy bomb components and own a red Ford ranger? She picked up another receipt. She typed in the name, and then almost impossibly a match. She quickly called over a supervisor that individual had bought one component. So we had his name in the database for one component. He had bought so building that database on the front end that paid off dividends for us. The name on the receipt was marked Anthony Condit Marconnet owned a red foreign ranger, they located a driver's license. They had his photo twenty three years old with dark straight hair glasses and a slight smile. They also had his address a home in Pflueger Ville, just outside Austin where the first bomb had exploded nineteen days earlier, we had that name, and then we started doing background checks and doing other database queries where we felt that name was stronger and stronger as the day went on investigators watched surveillance videos, they saw the same man in the driver's license shopping for items related to the case one of the videos from an Austin, Home Depot. So the Home Depot. Video showed the bomb are buying signs drive like your kids live here signs that were used to anchor the trip wire the video also showed him buying gloves and those same gloves are the ones that he was wearing. He went inside. The FedEx store things finally seemed to be falling into place. Whoever Mark Condit was the evidence all seem to point to him. By that Tuesday afternoon. The investigation really picked up momentum at a rapid pace. So we're in the command center, and they soon thereafter came and got a hold of myself special agent in charge combs special agent in charge of the ATF Nolan. Hausky the district attorney the a USA may brought us all into the briefing room. And they wanted to basically white board for us all of the evidence that they had linking all back to the individual. Who was ultimately the bomber by the time. They reached the fifth or sixth piece of evidence tying conned to the bombings everyone in the room was feeling confident. They have the right guy. And so then the process turns to the legal process making sure that they dot every I and cross every t in terms of getting warrants not only for his arrest. But also to search his home. There was a sense of relief in that we knew who he was. But you still have that sense of concern because he was. Isn't accounted for yet? And since he had been so prolific with placing bombs around our community in the mail. We knew we still had to work very quickly. Everything had to be done by the book. They prepared other search warrants for his cell phone is computer records anything they'd need to bring the suspect in without a hitch inside the command post you've got prosecutors from the DA's office here in Travis county. You've got federal prosecutors working on this then outside of that room. You have surveillance teams that begin doing all they can to locate the bomber and get him under surveillance until they're ready to actually strike and move in for an arrest. I think the public sometimes isn't grasp how hard it is to get search ones now hard it is to to subpoena records, and and having the DA in the US attorney. They're really made that easier for us as messed Gators as all that's being done there. Also pulling agents off of other possible suspects. They've kept an eye on there were in fact, a number of persons of. Who are still being considered as possible suspects? There's only so many assets you have so every day. The command staff is making decisions as to where do we apply the limited assets, we have so when you come in with a new name. It's better be a stronger argument than the old names. We have because surveillance is gonna come off old name to go to a new name. But they didn't need any more convincing an agent started moving into place all through the day. Caves, Tony Paige ski had been feeling like something was about to break in the case. One of the reasons I thought that something could be going on is that a number of sources who'd been responsive during the investigation all of a sudden stopped returning my phone calls Tuesday afternoon. They stopped returning my calls. They stopped returning my texts. And so that made me think that there had been a turn in the investigation, and that whatever was happening. They wanted to keep it all tra- secret outside the command center. We only knew what we were being told that the most recent package bombs have been accounted for one exploded. Another deactivated by police at the time. We didn't know anything about the FEC surveillance video or anything about a man wearing a wig gloves going into the store or a red pickup truck by Tuesday evening. We were reporting on the possibility that police might have video of the bomber tonight. The cameras that move recording. Inside this often shipping center might have captured the clip police need to crack this cakes the video now being watched by federal investigators who say this is where at least one of the bombs was put in the mail. Investigators were working every angle getting warrants lining up plans to move in learning all they could about the suspect known as Mark Condit. We started working up a background on the suspect. Trying to obviously understand any of his affiliations known associates residences that he was tied to vehicles that he's tied to casting a wide net. So we could work to locate him they were grappling with a lot of decisions among them whether to reach out to the public for help knowing they were racing against. Time in that the bomber could strike again at any minute. They debated releasing the suspects photo, but some of them like the treadmill now ski who'd hunted down. Eric Rudolph were not in favour nothing. Remember in that case? Once we identified him that information got out to the public, and we spent the next five years looking for him. I mean, the biggest man hunt, you know, in US history. So we're very cognizant of that. And concern about that. It goes back to a lesson from the Boston bombing T, honest with you we're in the Boston bombing video was captured showing the bombers and there was debate. There. Do we release that video or do we wait and do more investigative activity is it's double edged sword. You put the video out you show the world who the bomber is. And you get more is to tell you where he's now you just told the bomber you're onto him which could push that person into more violence that was a debate that the F B I had with the Boston bombing. Now is there to debate that I raised. Sd Austin because although we needed to take action. I didn't want to take action and tip. The bomber off that we knew it was him. Because frankly, I was scared that he would go out and do more mass murder. And by nightfall police had another decision to make do we go execute. The search warrant at his residence or do we wait for daylight? We knew that he was a very skilled bombmaker, and the likelihood that his home at a minimum would contain explosive devices, but also likely maybe booby-trapped would make it a very complicated tactical operation for our tactical teams. And then the other unknown was whether or not he was actually in the house at that moment. And we knew if we executed the warrant that night. And he was not in the home. He would likely get word and possibly leave and make it much much more difficult to find him. And and who knows commit what violence along the way to do. A swat raid in search of bombers house at night safety. Wise is not a great decision. So based on all that we decided let's spend tonight trying to find him get him under surveillance. And then tomorrow morning rest the troops. Make sure everybody's ready. Do it as safely as possible? We would hit the house. It was an agonizing choice for Brian mainly. It was a tough choice for all of them knowing that the bomber was still out. There may be planning another attack. That's the job you have to make the decisions. And in that moment, I felt like the right decision consulting, obviously with my my partners. We really were ineffective team the SAC's for both the FBI the ATF that the right thing to do was to wait for sunup. So they waited and we waited and then the unthinkable. Were meeting in the conference room. And we get a message that there's been another explosion. We've again tonight with breaking news out of Austin where officials are on high alert after yet another incident in that city. You automatically think it's connected. Right. You automatically think. All right. You don't you don't report that you don't say that. But it's in your mind. That's what she think. And so it's in that moment that your heart sinks again because you potentially have someone else that has been seriously injured or killed when you know that you were hopefully hours away from bringing somebody into custody. Austin police federal investigators the bomb squad reporters, we all raced to the scene of another possible explosion someone had dropped off some military surplus type ammunition and so that caused a blast at a drop off site at a goodwill store that goodwill sore his actually not very far from the FedEx. Store. And so that made people think that perhaps it was the work of the bomber gave you investigative reporter Eric proffer was closely watching developments with the rest of us, even when they said, it's not related. It's not related. We had to go really, how do you know that it's not related or could it have been related, and it just doesn't fit a pattern. And so we were skeptical about it. And a lot of the community was skeptical about it and as well tonight. Investigators believe this scene at a goodwill was not connected. The CEO of the story telling us this wasn't above. There was a bag with a device in it that gave a flash everybody panicked when different directions somehow is flash. Or whatever happened injured this fella's hand, thankfully that was not another bombing attempt. But it was a donation to goodwill of an incendiary military device that had just ignited. And so here we were knowing that we had identified the suspect knowing we were working on the arrest warrants. But yet having that thirty minute window, however, long that was thinking that we may have seriously injured or or lost another member of our community while working on. It was was was very concerning for all of us in Austin. It was almost more than our frayed nerves could take we had to take a deep breath and keep on going though, something else happened that day, we didn't know about as police were putting teams into place near the bombers home. There was a mixup a mix up that let EMT's right to the bomber's house. There was an inadvertent dispatch of an ambulance to the bombers home that ambulance was supposed to respond to the immediate area to be on standby in case something happened. But through a communication error was instead dispatched to the home call on north second. Fire station. Do not make seeing despite what you just heard. The ambulance crew didn't stay at the firehouse without knowing it they were knocking on the bombers front door. And that ambulance crew did make contact with individuals inside the home. The bomber didn't answer the door. But maybe the visit had tipped him off was he aware that police were looking for him. So I think in some form or fashion he may have been concerned that that we wore potentially closing in on him. It had been eighteen days since the first explosion in east Austin eighteen days since a suburban dad open box on his front porch over that time Austin had mourned the loss of that father. Stephan house and seventeen year old classical musician, Draymond Mason. We'd seen other victims rushed to the hospital with serious injuries. We had seen the terrible power that a small box of store. Bought components could unleash we'd seen. The bomber go from using package bombs to a trip wire to putting deadly boxes in the mail. We had wondered who was behind it. Who were they after in most of all why? Through it all from the scene of the first blast. Brian Manley had stood in front of our cameras and told us to look out for each other. How to stay safe is calm kept our city and check even when everything seemed to be going off the rails on that Tuesday night. Manley wasn't going to get any sleep now with the bomber still on the loose. I couldn't leave the command post. I don't know why. But I was I was hanging around the command post there were very few people that were still in the command post, and I was just thinking through things suddenly there was a buzz of excitement. Something was happening. It was just a ping from a cell phone more Condit had turned his phone on just briefly in police had location. I was then advised that they had located the suspect. They believed FBI special agent in charge. Chris combs, also got the news just got back to the hotel. Literally just took my shoes off was going to go to bed to get ready for an early morning with the search warrants one of our Tex. Visors called and said, we got we know where he is. We're moving troops out right now to his location, which was the parking lot of a hotel. Next time on bomber. There was a nationwide investigative effort to find out where is this coming from. It was a voice on the other end of the phone telling me that something was going down thinking of all the different ways that this may transpire we were able to discover a lot of evidence that led us to believe that not only was he planning on more attacks than he had the equipment to do it. They do. Now bomber is a production of studios and cave. You were available at apple podcasts. Spotify Google play and other major listening platforms. You can also listen and learn more at bomber podcasts dot com. Our executive producer is well Johnson. My thanks to the people of Austin, my colleagues at cave, you federal investigators and the men and women of the Austin police department.

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Long Range Shooting Tips; Buying Guns With Stimulus Money; Shooting Sticks for Rifle Shooting: Gun Talk Radio | 05.02.21 Hour 2

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Long Range Shooting Tips; Buying Guns With Stimulus Money; Shooting Sticks for Rifle Shooting: Gun Talk Radio | 05.02.21 Hour 2

"Stop wasting time searching for deals on the gun and gear you want. Let gun deleo do the work for you. Download gun deleo for free enable notifications and start saving. He'll find hot. Deals exclusive offers and more triggered. The deals gun. Deleo that you're still with us. I'm tom gresham. It's gun talk are going to be talking about an awful lot different things. Well because we call a gun talk if you have a rifle or a pistol or a shotgun you know something about or wanted to share the information we're here for you. Basically which kind of sit around the camp stove here and we shoot the breeze. Ask questions of each other. Sometimes i have answers lotta times. I don't call for help. sometimes. I make them up. It's up to you to figure out when that is not really okay. If you want to be part of this just give me a call eight six six. Talk gun if you if you miss a show. Don't forget that you can always pick up gun. Talk as a podcast. If you've got a gun deleo. That's our website gundy in da l. I. oak on deleo dot com. You can download our smartphone app either on android or iphone. Put it on your phone and you can listen. Of course you can do it wherever you get podcast as well listen to the gun. Talk podcast we have the radio show as well as some others. 'cause we talk about shooting guns and self defense in pretty much. Everything revolves around going bang. We talked about training going to really interesting places going and getting more training. The places we go. We've been there a number times as the f. T. w. ranch. Oh it's two hours. Or so. North of san antonio in deep in the heart of texas. Join me right now as the head honcho over there. Tim hey tim how are you. Good sir hugh thanks. I i am. Well you're probably willing to bluebonnets season now. we are. Yeah they're coming up everywhere. It's it's beautiful time of year. It is gorgeous to pflueger ville and back a couple of weeks ago and it was really pop. And so yeah. That's that's really something so i going to say. Okay what is he. W anson you get that all the time. What is it. So what's your cliffnote version. How do you tell what to do there. Well i purchased ranch and ninety six or the intent of of Raising endangered species from around the world. That inaugur hannibal and Or extinct whether it is from actually but they have to do well in a rugged mountains and and with the intent of having some sort of a which has grown to a behemoth of hunter. Training program You know tell them. I've i've found around the world started in on the early years and There was no at the time. No hundred training program. You go to a few other places and you know. Shoot their guns and shoot thousand yards. Who but that's not hundred training as you. Well know no so we. Finally i had to. I finally moved out here. Fulltime in two thousand and four. We launched the program no five and that's called the sam program s am and Yeah today it has thirty. Five active ranges and for to simulate all kinds of hunting and shooting scenarios sportsman Sam stands for sportsman's whether all terrain marksmanship getting out there and doing right. Exactly are yeah. Twelve thousand acres. We're talking about like eighteen square miles or more crazy It's it's a lot of property. It's it's perfect for what we're doing with it right so people say i want to. I want to come out learn to shoot long range and then the question becomes what is long range right right. Well you and i think are actually on the same wavelength on this whole delive. It is look. It is great fun to shoot steel targets at a thousand fifteen hundred two thousand yards. You can hit them. I mean that's just a who'd because it's hard right. Yep yep it is. It comes with a lot of challenges and a lot of skill sets required But yes tom thankfully you. And i are on the same page for not big fans as long range stuff that you see you know. Look to be a little politically correct. We call long range hunting Shooting pasture capabilities and and that's really an important statement to make You know if. I'm the world's best shot with the world's best gear and the right calibre that animal and i'm taking a shot at you know you're you're shooting. Maximum might be seven hundred yards. But we haven't met that person yet because it is the hunters job to kill the animal in one shot. I mean that's their job and and and that's an ethical statement that's an important statement and the hunting world. In my opinion we get enough bad press or any more wilted animals. So you said you haven't met the person who can can always make the seven hundred yard shot. I'm seeing people on youtube. They're making shots a lot longer than that. Well they're doing a generally on much bigger bigger place that we we treat the world is depending on. The animal is a six or nine inch. Kills okay so we we have yet to in every environment you know win condition temperatures etc angle. What have you every variable. That goes into a shot and hunting world We've yet to meet the guy that you know. That would say they would and and we train ooh hundred and fifty military snipers year here. We've yet to meet the person they can say. Yeah it'd make that shot every time. No they don't we've never seen it right. I can't there there in lies. The whole point is are you one hundred percent. Sure that you're going to make that shot. And here's the thing most gonna tell you. There are people right now. Who say i can hundred percent make shot at eight hundred nine hundred yards until they go out to your course and try it at different angles at different wins at a lot of times. You know this is where they don't know unknown distances and they started doing and realize. Oh i actually do not hit that all the time with the first shot. Maybe i can't do that you do you take him out anytime you've been through the youth of course several times. Yeah you take them out. They can't hit and then bring it back in and figure out where they can exactly you know if if we got a guy or gal come in here with a new weapon system and made by somebody and they were taught that they can shoot an could seven hundred yards. We simply have them shoot a nine inch plate at seven hundred yards and they have to call their own wind and about the third shot after. They've missed all three times. They look around and go. Okay i get it. I got a three hundred yard shooter. And that's great and there's nothing wrong with that. I routinely say you got people say look. I'll take a shot. Five six seven hundred yards. And i say you know four hundred yards just really stretching me on any given day if it's all right if i feel good about behind a gun. I'm sitting there and gone okay. I can do this. But they're going to be conditions. Where i say i can't pull the trigger on an animal at four hundred yards absolutely true What what do we owe these thomas you know. Let let me just add one thing. You know you know when you get here depending on your optics in your gun and so forth. We'll billed as long as seven hundred yard card Most cars build our five hundred but in any case if a guy shooting serena seven mag you know rainer wetherby whatever you no longer capable of still killing energy type gun. We'll build them seven hundred yard card simply because if guys leaving here going on the marco polo hunt. We're last five year average on that she punt has been five hundred and fifty yards. Wow you better be making seven hundred yard shots. 'cause five fifty sort of a chip shot like any good golfer would make right so but by the time we get done with them shooting and seven eight thousand yards just for fun they get it. They fully get it and go man. I'm hoping that like he guided my average shots. Only five hundred yards marco polo. It is and then you get you get into things like time flight. You shouldn't something eight or nine hundred yards out there. You can actually have an animal. Take a step and ruin everything while the bullets flight. It's it's all right. So here's a. I don't know how you answer this. But what what do we owe. The animal is hunters. Well i think the right answer is we would honor and respect and if we're going to harvest an animal for food which we do It deserves to die instantly. That simple fair enough That works for me all right. Here's a question for you got you got some of the best shooters best instructors anywhere you got a former seal snipers everything else. How much has equipment changed over the last fifteen years and has it helped o or tom you know we were just talking about that the other day it has come in the in the sixteen years. We've been running this course it has come like from Get into rocket engines. It's just been incredible. Optics have improved at least one hundred. Fold and i'm talking about. Not only the clarity of glass but i'm talking about accessories on scopes holdover over radicals extremely handy accessible tourists. You know in the old days you always had done. Screw the cap and and dial a turret. That never had any cliques do it. And then you had a banging with your bullet like the old timers and now including myself neil timers. Yeah mechanical absolutely. It is come so far. But i tell you it's also fun. There's two other things we see factory guns today that are unbelievably accurate shooters whereas in the old days you normally had to buy factory gun usually at remington action which is kinda the base for any standard you know custom gun and yet turn around spend a few more thousand dollars on it and not because we didn't didn't make good guns made a great gun but today's expectation from the shooter's in the old days. Two inch group has just fine one hundred yards today. They want both touching and the factories are doing this. They literally are And i mean some all the factors. I can't name one. That's not capable not doing that. Pretty regularly ammo battery. Ammo is so good now. And here's the funny part and Probably i'm probably gonna get in trouble by saying this time from the listener but today the ammo companies are driving the gun business in the old. Well look at it this way not look how many new calibers and author has has produced. That are pretty darned successful. But what's interesting is look at. What's let's say hornets in swift and sierra have done with new bullets and the capabilities with ballistic coefficient. Something this bullets and the and they're still good killing rounds in many cases Good grief now. It's it's resurrecting old calibers. We're seeing more thirty out sixes today than we used to see fifteen years ago. Let me get your quick break. Come back i'll talk about you know if you had to take some money inside. Look here's the two or three things that you really need to know about connecting on a game animal out at some distance. What are you going to tell them. We're talking with Tim allen from the f. T. that buran check it out. Fcw fan us fws a. m. Doc we'll be right back. Kimber doesn't do status quo. There repeat black ice. Nineteen eleven is the latest proof. It's looks alone have made it one of the hottest handguns on the market. Here's what else brings to the table. A dlc coated barrel slide. Lightening cuts two tone. Silver and grey kim pro to finish lack gt handgrips. I've is day night sights absolutely loaded. Get the rest of the story about the repeat black ice at kimber. America dot com mental health and guns at walk the talk america. We're working with both the mental health community and the gun industry created by gun industry veteran. Walk the talk. 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School been around a lot of cars. Come along and who in these things started popping up. i'm thinking we don't need more cartridges. What's the deal. Is like six five piedmont. I'm going really. We had to six five fifty five for one hundred years. We really need this. And then you shoot it for a while and you go on. There really is something to this. They're doing some great stuff these days. Yeah they really are. I mentioned officers. New calibers good lord. They they Pity easel pete and successful. Oh i just got a To improve just. Because i liked the whole idea of it with an eight and a half twist barrel and going. You know what that'll work psychology. He's come a long way. It really has all right so if you're going to tell somebody here's a few things you need to know whether it's equipment technique or a mindset. What are you gonna tell them who've tom. That's a good one. If it's and you're you're still talking on the equipment side. No could be anything. And i look. I know we used to do this with adreno hands. Okay i hate to catch early in the day but this discussion at the bar. The that's okay but yeah it's like a guy. I'm going to take somebody who's not done this. I need to say like here's a couple or three things. You need to know about shooting at a game animal at three to four. Maybe even five hundred yards. Where are you going to start him off. Just say these are the areas you need to know about who Where to begin well as you know in the school. It's a crawl walk run. That's how we approach everything. And so the most important thing is we start everybody out With their own gear. You know we're not here to say something here to train you And we start them out at one hundred yards and we show them different positions and different techniques but having a stable shooting platform of the most important thing of all honestly So you know number one number. One answer that tom Would be training. Just me ready. And the reason i mentioned that is it is shocking to us and we train. You know six hundred people a year. It is shocking to us. How many people go on a massively expensive haunt or difficult on and literally. They may be in great physical shape but they they shouldn't be shooting fast two hundred yards and are going on a pond and they just they don't think it all the way through and then so hunt preparation first of all booking right hunt for you and thinking in small crawl walk run terms and making sure you have the best gear by asking lots of questions coming to school and no. You're ready that's the most important thing you can do. I think are most people not shooting much or don't know how to shoot did not practice. I'm gonna throw out a number and it's somewhat of a swag sure But we are several rules here from the students. We see women almost always shoot best be because they listen and they don't have what we call the john wayne complex. I can't tell you how many times we get a husband and wife in here and husbands around rolling his eyes he doesn't need to be he's been earned on that but women are smart. She started honey and she wants to get properly trained and by day two. She is smoking. I mean just almost pathetic. Every every student school says that exact same thing. Yep yep so I i think a lot of hunters don't realize the need until they go on a hunt and wound animal or miss an animal after they've worked for a week trying to get onto that trophy and his corey and blow the shot. And that's that's funny. You say that. Because that's our sales cycle so tom's you know we do a lot of the shows. Dallas and several of the other styles for club. And we'll meet a person who kinda has an inkling the back of his mind you know. I'd probably going in big african hunter. I'm going to the mountains. I probably need to get trained. And he talks to us and then he's like nah. I got this. I don't need this. Guaranteed he's in the booth right to check the next year because he went on a hunting blew. And so you know. It's an eye opener for people You know when. I started what i call professionally. Hunting in nineteen eighty eight. I travel around the world and hunting. I learned early on the wall. I need some help and i'm prior military. But i still needed help because you know being in the military shooting guns and going and climate sheep mountains in last two different things So yeah it. Training training and training through the training psyche. You'll learn what equipment works equipment doesn't the second thing that we often see as people what we call trying to haul hay with a corvette so the guy comes in. And he's he's either way under-equipped or he's way over equipped and what i mean by that is. He's gonna take his lightweight mountain rifle and they expect it to be able to shoot out to a thousand yards and they just normally will not do that so he ends up. You know with a six pound gun which is a great great. Wait for like mountain rifle. And he's got a you know. Say whatever scope on it and he expects that to be able to dial up all the way to a thousand and most lighter weight. Hunting scopes will not do that. He's not home. Hold up especially our second third shot. No no you're right 'cause the center barrels and they're just gonna start shifting after the second shot typically actor. Yeah exactly and that's okay. you know. There's unroll the two shotgun very very accurate to shotgun. I've hunted was one for years. The hunting world. I hope you don't need ever need more than two shots. No kidding that point conditions have changed a lot and the other thing is. You don't have to spend ten thousand dollars for the region your free for three or four. We're talking about a thousand fifteen hundred bucks for the rifleman about that for optic and you're probably okay right right amazing and the other thing is is You know test test your gun for different bullets. So i'm gonna leave names out of but we've got we've got a client ear. I met him. He was absolutely convinced he knew. What kind of gun he wanted and before he got here we asked him not to go ahead and buy it. Please come here and trial of our guns and loaner pool. I make sure you like to gun. You're about to buy the style gun. You know the type of action and optics and all that sort of any did and he regretted it after about the fifth shot on the range on day one. He thought that. I bought wrong and he did so. Be careful what you're buying you know again. Don't try to buy something you know haul hay with corvette and number two. Don't buy a tank when when all you needed was a rifle So i'm about out of time here. I just want to tell people that they want to come. See you guys. I would highly recommend it. It's not inexpensive but it is how you make an expensive hunt pay off and it goes on for year after year. Besides that you guys just you have a lot of fun man. we do. Thank you thank you. I appreciate f. T. w. ranch check out. F- tws am am twa. Damn that the sportsman's all whether an all terrain marks they will teach you dispute on game at reasonable distance might be three hundred five hundred but by the time you're done you'll know what your number eight six six talk gun talk. We'll return here rush. Eight six six talk done. It's called gun talk talk about what about you. Do you think if you bought a gun in the last couple of years. He hasn't really shot it for self protection. You want to know more about it. Give me a call. We'll talk about it. Tell me your circumstances. What's on we'll come talk about whether it's for the home whether you want to carry a new car with kill it on your person if you're gonna to carry it on your person. There are a number of things for us to discuss. How are you going to carry. Where are you going to carry it going to practice. We were just talking with tim. Allen from the fda ranch. We're talking about practicing. I think a lot of hunters don't practice shooting much. They signed in their rifles. I think are good and they never get off the bench site in from a big heavy bench. Sandbags i got. I think she's little groups. Great that's cool. Now give me another hundred to hundred rounds out of your rifle at one. Two three hundred yards. She even sitting position from prone from by shooting. Throwdown your backpack and rest over your backpack from a prone position. Oh yeah and walk hundred yards briskly trying to make you run with a rifle and then flop down and make shot not so sure about those first shots always landing where they're supposed to and that's one two three four five hundred yards. People don't know how far that is four. Five hundred yards long. we do. Yeah yeah yeah. I know you're shooting steel and you're doing it and it's not very far and you can do it hundred percent of the time. Great cool different thing altogether. If you missed the steel generally matter if you cripple our gut shoot or legs. Shoot an animal. You done it. Horrible to service. Now you have screwed up the deal and if you're another goal hunter now the rest of your do you gotta go find this thing. Whatever that involves dry fire practice is a huge benefit. When you're shooting with a rifle and you could do it in your home you can sit there and you know. Have your scope on low power and practice dropping down into a sitting position. Have leila media aiming point work on you snap that you don't have to have snap caps. You're not gonna hurt your rifle dry. Firing it snap at work about get back on it again. Dropped into a prone position. Same deal you know you could probably honestly you could do a hundred dry fires each live round shop and it would be a pretty decent ratio. Help you to windsor and practice shooting standing up often. It's unlikely you're gonna make a shot that way. Most people don't but you might and if if animals fifty yards in. If you sat down you would be like in the bushes and you gotta make that shot standing up. Do that. also shooting sticks now. We have the tripod type shooting sticks like bog. Pods those work really well. Here's a little secret. If you really want to do something interesting you want to get out to look at three hundred you wobble and all over the place you just are but not if you have two sets of sticks. What did he say. Two cents a sticks two sets a little tripod bag pod type sticks warning the front one of the back. So you got one hundred. The forearm and won't under the butt of the rifle. You would be stunned. How steady you can be like that. It's just amazing world. Oh i really wanna walk with. I don't know you gotta make the call on net but once you try it you might have new appreciation for and this is especially to imagine if there's to be out hunting all the time and you're hunting together unibody or are you just have to set sticks and whoever's turn it is who gets the shot you guys have practiced both of you getting your sticks out if you gotta shoot standing you do it that way. You actually could even sitting. Obviously if you have good by todd you could just get down prone vipond but there's a technique to that as well. If you're going to be doing that you need to would offer that you probably should get some instruction it but also you need to practice it. What's involved in it. Oh heaven to buy pot out max pressing forward into the vipond as the legs stick out a little bit forward toward the muzzle from the rifle rather than just balancing the rifle on the by pod. You're pressing into the by pod with your shoulder. it becomes a little miniature tripod. Two points the by todd and shoulder as opposed to wobbling forward and backward oppressed in. It's not moving. How would you learn this stuff. Where did you go take a class or you'd go. Try competitive long range shooting or you get involved with a long range shooting club or just even a rifle shooting club. It is great fun of course as we were talking about earlier that year you have today. Here's the thing i like about today. A lot of it does not require a magnum cartridge. Real heavy recoiling cartridge. The six five three board. That's one of the things that so good about it. You don't get a lot of recoil. It does the job it wouldn't bother me in the slightest shooting a deer elk at four hundred yard creamer with good bullets. Yes you can them bigger. Certainly we can't have always been a fan of the three thirty eight win mag although i don't shoot it much anymore and definitely does the job. Big three hundred magnums are mazing part. But now with the bullets we have. I don't think you need those as much anymore. It would just kind of random thoughts on practice in the idea of dry fire whether it's pistol or shotgun old. He saved rifi was shocking. Yes i did that. You probably need. Snap caps tell you what we come back. I'll tell you what to practice your. That's why would you do that. And i'm talking about wing shooting here right ri- fire wings shooting practice the shotgun when we come back here. Have you purchased your first fire. Millions of americans have made personal protection a priority and smith and wesson has created a resource to welcome first-time gun owners into the firearms community. It's called smith and wesson gun. Smart posted on smith and wesson youtube channel. The gun smarts video series covers a variety of training topics. Become a confident responsible. Gun owner visit smith and wesson on youtube. And see what gun smarts has for you. Celebrating seventy five years of innovation wasn't enough for too many triggers. Timmy decided to go big and introduce a game. Changing alpha competition series trigger for handguns. A first for the company currently available for glock. Jim threes fours and fives. These new triggers offer a three pound trigger weight and chris bigger break designed to keep you on target. Ultimately triggers are easy to install and come with a lifetime warranty. Find out more at me. Triggers dot com. I'm thinking he's lost it. He's finally lost it. he's talking about dry. Fire your shotgun or wings judy. Practice for cray targets you. Yes i am. Here's the technique. Here's what it's about. I really favor don't know what's called european style or classic style instinctive shooting where you mount the gun and shoot all in one fluid movement so it's called move mounts. Shoot you move the barrels of the shotgun to line up with fly of the bird before before you mouth a gun to your shoulder and then the moment the gun hits your shelter. Pull the trigger How's that work. Well you have to be holding the gun correctly. Which means the barrels are out there. Not straight up in the air. They're kind of out and you're looking over the top of the muzzle and you're tracking the birds. It's a it's just say it's a right to left bird you're tracking the bird with the muzzle. Indeed do not have the gun mount. It's track track track in your kind of set it up and then you just bring the gun up your shoulder and when it hits your shoulder you press the trigger all wants move move boom and keep moving follow through follow through follow through. How could you practice that dry firing. Well this is all about practicing them out. Getting them out right especially i would say. Probably use snap caps for this either. Put a piece of tape across the wall. But you actually issues. You know the the roof line in your room like where the crown molding is or where the ceiling line hits you can track that from right to left left to right with the muzzle and then as you bring the gun up and pressed the trigger. What she wants to make sure that the muslim doesn't dip down or rise up during the mound. There's a tendency to pull up with your gun. Hand the pan. That's the pistol grip of the gun. He put up with that. And when you do the muzzles dip down which you want to do is lift both of them up at the same time impressed into your shoulder press. The trigger are slapped a trigger for shotgun and do that while the malls are tracking on that line on the wall and then when you press the trigger that he stay on the wall so you just do that over and over you'll want you do. You'll say. Oh i see what he's talking about because you you come up to yank up with your trigger hand and the muslims dipped down or if you've got too much of your arm hand the muslims go up but if you work on this you'll get to where you can mount that gun and stay on target and you'll find that you're making hits that you just can't believe that really was pretty impressive so ju just a thought for you there away for you to check that out. A number here is eight. Six six talk gone. Hey jim on. I think my screaming frozen up okay. Okay the wonders of technology. Here so when it comes to handguns on dry firing. What are you trying to accomplish. Well basic are you want to not disturb the sites when you press the trigger rag and not disturbing even afterwards. You wanna have follow through there so i get this email. While we're doing the show. From dan he says i got a new gun with a muzzle velocity of one hundred eighty six thousand three hundred twenty four miles per second. What laser speed light is he adds. Laser says it's a step up from just dry firing. Because i can see where i'm hitting. He says as soon as i started using it. I spotted a problem. I was having with follow-through. Want the laser in this case to stay on target after it goes. Click is once. I correct that my country that my group's came way down. He says it also saves a ton of money. So yeah it does that. Let's go talk with ken in akron. Ohio on line three ken. You're on gun talk today. I'm thanking looks into you guys and i'm thinking you guys are being a little hard on president biden. Okay how's that well. I just got myself a fourteen hundred dollar check a couple of weeks ago now the by two new pistols. I think we ought to be thanking him for that. You okay you gotta you gotta share now. You gotta tell us. Where'd you get. I gotta range report for. You gotta love turn. Pd compact who. I i like that one. Three touro oh yeah. Have you been able to shoot both of them. yes i have. I spent about six hundred dollars. Shoot fifty shots through each of them. So do you think the walter trigger is amazing. You said something a couple of weeks ago about triggers. And you're right. I never knew what a good trigger was until i tried that. Walter i trigger is not so great. We're done right absolutely right. You know we were out shooting that walter. Pdp weeks ago With friend of mine who came down he had bought one. We were shooting one of we have here and we passed it around and everybody who was out there. Shooting it came to san is a really nice pissed. Because you think okay. It's another polymer pistol. Rights not polymer pistol deal. Just you know what it is. They're all getting better. And as they design a new one engineers can go there and and make it better. They design them. Better the triggers. Better and i love what you said what i keep telling this to people. You don't know what a good trigger is until you try good trigger and then you go. Holy cow had no idea what i was missing out on. Yes indeed. i hope kidney comes out with the g. three triggers triggers. So i can replace it. Will you know i. They hadn't made pistol traders and then they came out with glock triggers. So now you can get timmy. Triggers for your glock which is a big deal. What i don't know. I have not talked to them about this. As if they're going to expand that you kinda think they probably would expand that to other handgun brands. And if you're if you're trigger maker. I mean this is what you and i would do. We would say okay. Who makes the most pistols. Those are the ones we're gonna make triggers for because that's going to be the biggest market so he started glock and maybe go to spit the rutgers. Something probably not. Well certainly don't even need it on the pd. I don't think that needs an aftermarket trigger to you. Know i love that tritter. What now what did you get him for his home defense or are you going to carry them. What are you gonna do. I divide a walter torres before so i thought it was time to buy one. I don't have one of those. I'm gonna get one that work. I it now on still allowed to have it so we'll have to. There's certainly that too so well. That is a great rain support. And i'm glad you're using your government money in a good way. So that is terrific. Now now it's a case of just shopping ram. oh exactly. Nancy would be unhappy with me because every stimulus check i got. I bought a firearm with a perfect. You're here thanks for the call. Appreciate that hey. Greg don't go anywhere we're gonna get to you in just a second here. We will have that. He's actually got a great rain report for us. We're talking about shooting sticks. We'll talk a little bit about that. It had been shooting something love to share that experience with us. If you've been out with others friends family or maybe even introduced to the sport. I love to hear that how you go about it. What gun us start somebody out. You say i'm going to take the range you never shot before. What do you like to start out. Beginners with number here is eight six six talk dot com talk gun. I'm tom. gresham will be right. Back mean no compromise all or nothing groups out there. I get this email from the list. Or says i spent some years in the car business. The most accessible car dealership. I worked for had a policy of selling cars by hierarchy of making deals. I was get all the money. Then if that didn't work get most of the money that didn't work get some of the money that didn't work take the deal. They'll come back and allow us to get more. That's what i'm talking about. We take what we can get now and you come back and get more later over the last twenty five thirty years. We've had concealed carry permits which a lot of people said. We don't want to ask permission and yet. Now we're getting we're getting constitutional carey twenty states and growing would not have had that if we'd insist all or nothing way back then eight six six. Talk gun greg. Called in from north carolina shooting sticks. Greg what are you doing here. i'm doing well. Thanks for taking my call. You bet You hope you were talking about the sticks. And there's a company african sporting creations that has shooting sticks originally designed to Use in africa hunting plains game so you had something arrest or rifle. They've actually come out with exactly what you described a five pod but also has to do with another set of sticks that come down toward you so you can rest the front part of your stock and the by pod folding. That comes down towards your wrist. The back part of your stock so you actually have two points of contact on your gun. What a single set of shootings. Oh i see that. I'm looking at their website. Now called african sporting creations. They call it. The flies is shooting sticks. Yes that's the one i'm referring to that is that they they yesterday. Also have him so that you can take them down you know. There was like aircraft aluminum. Connectors that unscrew. The total length down. So you can actually stick them in something the size of your gun. Big take with you so it's not like you have something that's five and a half sixty long. That's difficult to transport right. You break down. You can put it in your backpack when you're out hunting and pull it out when you got shot all set up. Take the shot. Yes sir have you used those. I just thought oh yes. I have used a house. It worry very stable. It is amazing. How stable that gone is when using lies. I shooting stick but just it's hard to describe how stable it is actually tried them. Exactly you gotta try it. Get another set of shooting sticks one in front one in back and see what happens because you think well shooting sticks work pretty well actually few shot much off of a and look. I appreciate the call. Thank you greg. i didn't know about that. If you're shot much office shooting sticks you know that they kind of wobble. You don't want it to be just balanced up. You're kind of just had the two legs don't have tripod. It's good to kind of angelman of impress into them. So you're pressing forward but when you put another set of sticks underneath the stock of the gun it's a may not quite be a big interest but holy cow in a different light bulbs are going on. You're going oh yeah this is the thing and your confidence goes up and win. Your confidence goes up. You're going to make better shots when you think i got this. I can do this. You're simply going to concentrate on making the shot. You're going to get the crosshairs where they need to be. You're going to press the trigger. You're not gonna jerk it because you know you've got this and when you practice enough that's a great feeling when you i mean you go out there. And i've done respect. If i see him within a reasonable range i can get him. It's just not even a question. No i can't for the practice a great great feeling they were we come back. We'll talk about a gun that's going up for auction. It's possible it may end up being the most expensive gun ever soul at auction and it is a huge huge historical piece. This is a very deal. Eight six six talk gun right back to work on talk.

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Ebby Steppach /// Part 1 /// 343

"UH-HUH place or with someone and we would find out that's not where she was ebby was provoking arguments and wanted to move out she the extra crispy colonel all right that's enough of the business everybody gather round grab a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime about three weeks before Ebi disappeared her behavior changed drastically she would tell us she was going some Dick in Virginia Beach Virginia Big Nick says it's good to hear you it's good to be heard so little tip the cap to the captain there yeah of there is this is a dark sour beer aged in oak barrels this gem is Bhai the rare barrel microbrewery for those of you scoring at home welcome true crab garage wherever you are whatever you're doing thanks for listening I'm your host Nick and with me as always as a man who drinks apple this is batch number eighteen garage grade four and a five bottle caps and today we are giving thanks to these gems right here I up a big barrel cheers Expe- on Saturday October twenty four that she needed to speak to me about something important she indicated that an individual at this house had sexually rob it's new Greville shall to hope and West Dundee Illinois and we have Rachel in Knoxville Tennessee and last but certainly not least we have been point this week in the fridge we have an interesting one this is called Shadows Sarah and vadnais Heights Minnesota and a big Charlotta Stephanie and Berlin Germany next up we have Mardi and Pflueger Ville Texas old flew over nate banner we are behind it would be weird if we were ahead we're just making names up so thanks everybody for contributing to this week's peer fund you can do that auditor and videotape day there were four boys at the party she told me at two assaulted by one abbey was hysterical and I left and eventually ended up with my son Trevor a couple days before he was reported missing she went to a party juice because Oj will kill you he is the captain had also unclog your pipes it's good to be seen as good to see you thanks for listening thanks for down the from crammed garage Dot Com while you're there check out the store page sign up on the mailing list that is enough of the business hold on while you're there get a good look at the big nick an wanted my husband to go to the police station with her every that I would beat her after dinner to sit tight and I'd let her know when I was on my way for the last donate to the beer fun we want to thank everybody for donated to the beer fund we are currently behind but if you'd like to donate go to true crime garage dot com and click on the road where she was but she knew she was with her car at that point turmeric told me what had happened told me you sounded really messed up disorders acted abby about an hour later and she told him that she was outside his house so trevor went out didn't see her asked her where she was she did the question I asked her what she wanted to go follow police report and she stated yes. I'm certain the next afternoon my Stepson Trevor came by he conned uh word to the wise though I'm known as big Nick in the garage here so we'll limit to just one right all right have you. In some cases we approached the story by starting off with the main event which may be a murder and abduction or disappearance but in this case the events unfold in such a peculiar way oh who has done some extensive coverage on this case EPI Jane Statistic was born March Thirty First nineteen ninety seven to articles in a magazine dedicated to this strange case now the trailer you just heard was taken from the Dr Phil Show Lori and Peter Static Eddies name which Laurie laughingly says she borrowed from a church friend whose daughter's name was evey her good evening with my daughter to come forward and give a formal interview with Little Rock Police Department to help them move forward in the investigation their name help usual name signified how special and unique her mother felt her child was Abbey's middle name is Jane which is also her mother's middle name as well Lori hoped her little girl would embody a combination of her mother's traditional religious values and a free spirited one of a kind persona Abbie's family can assisted of an older brother older half brother actually named trevor and a younger sister named Harris. Laurie says she and Eddie's father split when maybe was just a first grader. Laurie says that the marriage was a quote bad situation but when it ended it was still abrupt and teen-aged Abbey was known as EB stor to her family she loved hot pockets her dog furball music the beach and the color purple talking to her and her daughters Lori went onto Mary Michael Jernigan who helped bring some stability to this broken family we will just roll with the chronological approach much of the biographical information we are about to Rela- comes from a series of when she graduated from High School Abbey wanted to go to cosmetology school and later get her real estate license when she was young she did not like her name and she went through phases where she would insist on being called something else Laurie says abby she was also interested in languages she studied Spanish Turkish and Hebrew Laurie says Abbey was always stubborn and independent and never heard it like for to my knowledge trevor is the last person in our family to speak to abby I would like to four individuals that were at that party into a fiercely loyal person while she was hard to get to know her friends say that once you broke down her walls she was selfless this strong and perseverance one story that captures this is when her classmate this was a boy named Caleb Boyd says a homey person she liked to stay home she had friends over to her house more than she would go to their homes as she got older she developed he was apparently wrongfully incarcerated for having a gun on school grounds the way that this story works is instead of turning her back on campaign and petition the court and it worked getting Caleb released although these characteristics of Abbey's were largely positives her mom and generous and passionately stuck by her friends sites and heavies friend Danielle Westbrook describes her as kind loyal loving crazy and her early high school years she was bullied and she changed schools switching to the little scholars of Arkansas Academy uh-huh says there were some downsides to her loyal entrusting nature Ebi got hurt a lot because her strong feelings weren't always returned I am like so many of his other friends did right evie took the lead in mobilising students in support of Caleb she initiated a letter writing from another small private school later Abbey's loyalty and stubbornness reared its head when her mom tried to get her to see that a few of her boyfriend breaking her parents rules and hanging out with a new crowd a group that she met her job at footlocker at the McCain mall she had worked more and more to be around these other kids her parents didn't know things were exacerbated by the car the Abbey Blonde hair and Hazel eyes she is acting out in ways her parents do not like did not like and Geico filling for teens I got out of here man Abby who was a very pretty girl five foot two hundred and ten pounds not from her father Peter Lori said it gave her daughter the feeling that she could go wherever she wanted to whenever she wanted to write that's hard to land this job this was the summer before her senior year abby spent most of her money on makeup and clothes and she started to work these are people that she's working with so as we go through this we are uncertain in the captain and I talked about this last week we are uncertain if these are in we all know this is we don't mean to give me a bad name this is a phase most kids go through a lot of kids go through the old young adults abby as we said she's acting out she's lying to her parents you know not going where she says she's you want to be around their parents not listened to their parents and and they're hanging out with these these other people that her parents are calling kids but let's keep in mind fact actually kids because it's a job so at the youngest we're probably looking at what seventeen or eighteen but very likely nineteen twenty maybe even twenty one year old ends and other friends were less than she deserved as high school progressed her independence morphed into full blown rebelliousness abby started wing hang out with people that she says she will not hang out with she and her mom and Stepdad continued to butt heads and things escalated abby in the fall of two thousand and fifteen she made a decision that her mother would not support she switched schools this was from the Lisa Academy too who had been any sheltered private school her whole life sure enough new kids she was hanging out with introduce her to marijuana would periodically storm out to stay at her friend's home at Danielle's home but would always return home the next day now and abby started her senior year the parents did not approve and in a heated argument in September Evian her mom agreed that she should move out Lori was determined to stand firm her house two thousand four and unfortunately not seen since abby didn't have much of a plan in fact she rotated between houses quite a bit she crashed in her own and she would have to work quite a bit of this situation reminds us of Brianna Maitland case we covered episode two fifty four and two fifty five you little rock central high which is a very big school she went from a small school to a very large school this was a major change for Ebi they decided not to confront her about this she is still in school but technically she is an adult at this time right sometime around mid October Ebi showed up at Danielle's place asking to stay there for a while the two shared Danielle's room listening to me around from all of these three homes for a time and Laurie and Michael began receiving calls from Central High Abbey was missing school Brianna switched schools as well and remember she started hanging out with the wrong crowd right eventually moving out of her parents house and work in a lot vanishing into but she and Danielle went to services at the assembly of God Church and Little Rock that evening Thursday and Friday I don't I don't know what drama Abbey was referring to Ebby never ended up going to school that day it's unclear how many days she missed but on Friday night October twenty third we do know that Emmy went to a party Danielle did not go with her because she did not know the other so she needed to go over there and see him the friends agree to see each other on Sunday at the church ice cream social so abby went to people attending this party right we don't know if these were kids from central high school or people that abby was working with at footlocker or other and loved staying at their house abby spent the day sleeping and watching her favourite show spongebob she had dinner with her grandparents and they went music and they went out on long drives but since they went to different schools Danielle was never really sure what ebby was doing if she was not saying no it's not a big deal at all I swear I didn't want to go to school today anyway because of all that drama Danielle does on Saturday October Twenty Fourth Abby Toll Danielle her brother trevor was worried because she hadn't been to his place all week long Sir rules and have moved out she couldn't come back Laurie agreed to pay for certain things but abby would largely be on her brother Trevor's place and then she went to her grandparents house this is Peggy and Bill Holman Abbey was close with them Oh if abby went to school I could not find anything that stated that she did so we can only guest that what the drama was and if she was still avoiding school because of it after Daniels doctor's appointment Danielle text abby that her appointment was running late telling abby to go on without her abby tex back oft one guy had sexually assaulted her and he also videotaped the whole event it's unclear what the role of the at the home yeah it seems like she had to do a lot of work to figure out where she was going to stay so it'd be a lot more work on top of that figure out how you're going to get from this it's never saw her again and when they tried calling her later that evening before going to bed there was no answer it turns out that that same night instead of her older brother Trevor's home she stayed with her biological father Peter and with a friend Kayleigh fully so she's bounced these guys are older we don't know I think we both Kinda -ssume that that that these are probably more likely people from footlocker than her around seven fifty pm evie had begun texting her stepfather that she wanted him to bring her to the police station so she could other she tells her grandparents that she does plan to return to their home for that night and asking them not to lock the doors the home in out for t C. B. Y. around seven PM and around eight pm she's going to be leaving her grandparents telling them that she's going to go hang out with her steps with Monte Vickers a private investigator on the case describing the text between him and Ebi he says Abby says I was hanging there's but it was some group that she was hanging out with at this time this will be easy to understand why we don't know who this is and just a quick bit is up having sexual this individual then he tapes it or films it without her knowledge ray and he's probably sharing this with other guys at the party hanging out with some dudes last night and we smoked and I had sex with one of them and he effing recorded me she says this high school yeah or friends of footlocker friends yeah so it seems to me that maybe she felt pressured or or whatever by way she felt forced into it her last text message to me is saying I am going to kill myself but seems like there are drinking out this party possibly other three boys was but it was implied that they were also complicit somehow evie story is backed up by some text then random spot that you're staying at to school on the morning of Wednesday October Twenty First Abbey was supposed to drive Danielle to school on her way to school for an incident that happened at the party the night before she told him that she was the victim of sexual assault and four males were was when she wasn't looking vickers ask gauge did she tell you that she was raped to which gauge replies says she said she thirty PM and each only lasted about a minute but the little rock police department has said they have no record of those calls she had already called the police but didn't feel that she had received any good advice on what to do right so abby fell it would be she sent on the morning of Saturday October twenty fourth this is to a friend named Gauge Fulton. Here's the conversation that gauge later had you did not kill herself instead she began texting her stepfather while he was eating dinner that night evie requested that Michael Not tell her mother that's probably why she is saying that they're involved in some way yeah in we say the word sex but we're using that very vague again well the phone records show that and I have here in my notes that she indicating Abbey but I think what we should be clear on his better if she went to the police station in person and she wanted her stepfather to go with her the two agreed to meet around eight PM at the we don't know who was opening right reading text messages but somebody was until Sunday of October twenty fifth bright it's clear the boys or all of the boys at the Party about this incident by herself right and he says probably to try to get a hold of the she goes missing and somebody is going through her phone to try to clear some evidence I think that's what it is the impression that she had gone to meet him she was never seen again Michael fears that she may have decided to try to confront one she continued to open and re text messages until the night of Sunday October Twenty Fifth Unfortunately Roy wait say that phase of Abbey's life as we already stated she's not always honest about where she is who she is hanging out with and there were times even before moving responded to finally around five thirty PM on Sunday the twenty fifth Eddie's brother Trevor got a phone call from her she did not homes and head down to the station together but we do know the Ebi left the Helmets House before Michael arrived and the grandparents told Michael that they were under concerns but you also have a history of somebody running out for the night and not being where they're supposed to be they say that they tried calling in me that that we have Lori her mother believes it to be Abbey but as stated we don't overshot no I think what happened is so he hangs up the phone he goes outside to meet her but she is not there there's no sign of her or her car He calls her now. According to Laurie Eddie's cellphone records indicate the Abbey made two calls to the Little Rock Police Department that night around seven honest about where she's gone yes so you have like really mixed emotions and thoughts and feelings by her family right now where she didn't show up to meet her Stepdad she tells her grandparents she left to see the Stepdad he shows up at their door and they're like what are you doing here break but at the same time you got these back and ask you know where are you she said she was in her car but did not know where she was and she could not tell him who texting abby and all of those texts were it's according to her phone records state that they were read by somebody they weren't Egli while those are also her words yeah but we have her telling gauge that she said she felt forced right so now we do know that Ed I don't know what happened out that she would leave an argument and go stay somewhere and then come back the next morning on the difficult thing is that she is eighteen so technically says it have to be when no one heard from her by the next morning right we gotta keep some things in mind here there's a lot going on and there's a lot going on in this right right so the Abbey's mob does so we know that happened right these phone records also show then at her place Danielle who was at the ice cream social said she had planned to attend with abby right but obviously he's not there and nobody knows where she spent that Saturday night right I mean she could already be endanger as you just said how the family started to be worried correct and now Danielle is joining in the hunt as well she starts calling and texting Abbey's phone she starts calling other friends to see if any sound like herself he said she sounded panicked and disoriented abby told him that she was in her car parked outside of his house Oh she was with the last thing she said was I'm fucked up after four minutes of back and forth with abby not making any sense at all the power of super plants they make it easy for you to get the nutrients your body needs to thrive you're super functional superfood implant protein are Super Dot com get fifteen percents off your order when you use code garage at checkout just go to your Super Dot Com and don't forget to get fifteen her family started actively looking for her searching the neighborhood and calling around to her friends Abbie's sister texted Danielle asking if abby was and not giving him any information she hung up the phone and no one has ever heard from her again her phone uh but all of this effort nobody would find anything insure half-cup sizes third love designs bras with breast size and shape and mine for a perfect fit and feel you'll have to take my word for it but I am the captain and my mother loves these brawls my sister loves these bras and all the listeners that I know that have a third love Bra there absolutely and mixes are made from naturally dried organic whole foods superfoods and nothing else and with your super one hundred percent transparent supply all reasons why I love your super get the cleanest superfood implant protein mixes at your Super Dot Com. 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report without much follow up at all yeah now and the cops defense around that we've seen in so many other cases it's all it almost seems just in a terrible way almost seems funny to you Hours here they want twelve so laurie her mother says the second that the clock hit the twelve hour mark she called and five minutes later they're going up sorry without him well we do know that that is the case most of the time and the other thing of all we just have some people that are overreacting and they WANNA file a report but yet the person that they're trying to report missing since report but the Little Rock Police Department did not seem too interested in the missing person's case they seem to give lorries concern about the report nope there's no there's nothing it's a little bit of a shorter time period most of the time we hear less of twenty two or we've heard thirty six those when they go while they're adult and they have the right to go missing and I would just say that that look I understand people have the right to go missing even say it because we've repeated it so many times right throughout these different cases now this one is a little different this response is a little different than we've heard in the past and but the person that is you know the person that has the right to go missing that normally goes missing there probably is some conflict with the family so the maybe it's some form of Progress I don't know captain you be the decider there but he's told that they need to wait twelve hours before filing I really want to know how many times do they get calls where they're getting call backs within minutes hey we can't find my son can't find my daughter and he's not going to be calling for a while right I mean but when a family is calling going hey we can't find our son or daughter and the cops go he's living so I go ahead yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah The thing that I always drives me nuts the police she called back to the Little Rock Police Department right a police officer came to the House on Monday to speak with the family and fill out a missing for serious it's out of character and then here's the other thing too that that yes and I'm GonNa be my own devil's advocate here where I say that a to look we'll go down this road because you you started us down the road in this particular situation I can kind of see it from that perspective couch surfing basically but then here's the other the other thing you gotta consider that's all been going on for a while and they've never called the police before right so I've already told me she's hanging out with the wrong crowd she leaves and doesn't come home some nights phys adult she's an adult she's living elsewhere and we don't really know where she they're adult they have the right yeah we know that they have the right but this is ABC character and N and I think the cops need to take that he likely this is very different than any of those other times and and maybe they are not overreacting at all maybe they are reacting appropriately and we need to it becomes spooky pretty quickly now to put it in its shortest form possible the journey against did not feel that the police were to step in and get involved in this again this is also an day in age where were very connected so if you're not getting a hold of somebody likely missing because she wanted to be then little rock's channel seven news reported that police found surveillance footage reading they're missing daughters case with an appropriate sense of urgency on October thirtieth the Little Rock Police Department this is Lieutenant Steve McCarron aired at the end of the week when ebby disappeared there was no indication of when the footage of the car had been taken right so it's doing Eddie's car travelling on Cantrell Road in West Little Rock sometime shortly after she went missing while this report large Chanel Valley Homeowners Association a sign at the entrance of the park reads private for residents only it is in a very upscale area of West little rock near Joe Robinson high school another large high school in the city on route ten in order to get to the private neighborhood park drivers have to take one of two access roads one of these is shall neighborhood association to patrol the park he called the Little Rock Police Department on the night of October twenty eighth he was calling report and abandoned vehicle parked in the parking lot of the park police took a report but didn't make it over to the park until TV but we don't know exactly when that footage was taken it turned out it was most likely some time that weekend the crucial time period in which he did oh hand he's the media spokesperson for the Police Department he told the media that there was no immediate danger in Abbey's case and she was Dan Guy Hooper he's a security officer he calls in this abandoned vehicle and then he waits for police for a couple of hours and they don't vanish shall park is a neighborhood park there's a pool there and a playground it's maintained and operated by the Egmont drive which becomes northfield drive and takes drivers out to Chanel Parkway by the Walmart supercenter the other way takes drivers on sholomo drive to Cantrell road which is route ten a security guard named Guy Hooper who was employed by the October thirtieth two days later in a row so I want you to keep in mind how this whole thing went down this this show up they don't respond the entire time which he's like all right I'll be back again tomorrow to patrol again right I believe he actually called the following day as well l. and then again waited another hour to but as said it was two days later before anyone showed up to take a look at this vehicle well and let's go back to the whole we don't believe that she's in danger we think that she went missing on her own like we have worship well once they finally went down there to investigate this abandoned vehicle what they found was Abbey's silver two thousand and three double points of evidence to make him believe not that one she's basically saying that there was a sexual assault that happened to me and I want to report it I called your please station multiple times I'm making arrangements to go down there so we take that serious and then the remarks that she made to her friends saying while I'll kill me on the phone yes that Sunday the car keys were still in the ignition the vehicle was out of gas in the battery was dead revolts Wagon Passat Arkansas plate one three seven U. F. M. parked in the parking lot and it had been there since the night of is that she's in possibly in danger of harming herself and so we should take this more serious it seems just got load of a biological father and then a friend or two they're gonna find not only just these items but they're gonna find basically all of her possessions that now really truly what they find they're keep in mind she's moving around from house to house at that time staying a little bit with her brother little bit with her even more disturbing were the contents of the vehicle which included her contact lenses her wallet and her cell phone all of which were sitting on the front seat very strange stuff yeah now upon finding the car little rock police called Eddie's father Peter this is her biological father travel along with her from house to house in this car yeah her car becomes basically her storage unit yeah now these items are of importance they're looking at it until October thirtieth that's it I get abandoned vehicles I don't get having these types the car keys still in the ignition bad sign we got the automobile out of gas and the battery was dead that to me suggests that I self now maybe that is just you know it was just a figure of speech no wasn't something that she was actually going to do but just that in itself me of possessions being found inside the vehicle in plain sight one two vehicle out of gas and the batteries dead keys in it somebody left that vehicle running this is was Abbey's lifeline to her family and I'll keep in mind she's living with yeah yeah she's not living with her family but she still close with them and the police apparently failed to notice that the name of a missing young woman was also on that registration and her license was October twenty fifth this is according to the security off ahead so the twenty fifth that's The Sunday that's the same night that that she spoke with trevor was wrong something bad had happened now let's take our own little investigation into this vehicle to captain what did we say here we go does not know I mean they may know that somebody is missing or has been very but but very likely not because like we said the the somebody left the vehicle running bright in that parking spot and we do know it was there since that would we say Sunday the twenty fifth and they're not because Laurie later said that Ebi couldn't see without her contacts and she would never ever not take her phone somewhere with her she always says his name is on the car registration it was he who notified his ex wife Lori the Abbey's car had turned up the all of Abbey's makeup was still sitting in the vehicle as well that Lori says was the clincher for her she immediately knew that something the car the officers left the trunk open and a rainstorm soaked. Many of Abe's belongings channel seven news reported in the vehicle while they were searching the car they left the trunk open makes you wonder today fail to notice alleged to protect and serve they failed on this investigation for months the Jernigan family says the Eddie's car was the subject Danielle or any of these other friends were not contacted the security guard who found the vehicle was not contacted act of phone calls to the Little Rock Police Department not only from Guy Hooper but several neighbors in the area who called about the car our daughter's missing and now you've found her vehicle yeah with all our stuff in right I mean look we all know that teenagers are connected to their phones that that to me and keep in mind a couple of things if the security officer had called Multiple Times to report an abandoned vehicle yeah the responding officer is on the registration father calls mom hey they found their vehicle there it's going

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"Lock it down down. Stay at home order. Adam curry john's he divorced twenty twenty. One this is your ward winning nation media fascination episode. Thirteen forty eight. This is no agenda backing up. Camp man broadcast live from opportunities on thirty three here. The frontier awesome texas capital of the drone star state. Everybody i'm adam curry from northern silicon valley. Where all hell is breaking loose. I'm john divorced skills. Wait a minute. I have not been notified. What's going on what's happening. Wise all hell breaking loose. Can i help. What's going on really taking the scaffolding off the front of the house at firs. Oh average guys going back and forth. Cars are getting jammed up. Oh it's gonna it's going to suck for the show you mean we're gonna have noise and asks the more scary whether masked up well i did. I did my duty today in washington. The three shows in the morning support the show. Send your cash. You will obey. I'm sorry it's a three by three. It's not the right the right jingo hold on do the correct one sorting go there. You go all right you scan the three networks. What are you learning both. Well channel Nbc on the today. Show all big. It's called the vaccination vacation baby. Oh how does that work awesome big giant but dated a whole thing people roaming around with their mass john and if you're if you get fully vaccinated you're going to get your freedom that's right the freedom to travel your freezer to make sure that you you won't be able to go anywhere else. You vaccination card bring your card with the can you still need you need a car to prove your vaccinated to go into. Europe is what's going to go to europe. You need your car than you need a test. You still need cova test. You're gonna get the card. And i just correct you on that in europe. Green passport is either or you do not need a vaccination proof of vaccination. You can do a test. That's not what nbc. So i know. I know but i've read the documents from the eu. That doesn't mean that's what they're gonna do. The documents from the eu may not apply at the airport. Oh okay but you want to be fully vaccinated for memorial memorial day and is gonna be with vaccination unit enemies according to them. Vaccination equals a lot more freedom yes. I have clips of this phenomenon. But let's go to liberty fraternity day. Gotta take yes. That's the with cards. All you have a card sure right. It went to Skipped over to Abc good morning. America and they were just wrapping. I was enthralled this other reports right probably miss most of this but it was a big investigation. Big hot investigation about princess. Diana was troubled was troubled. Did anything new come to light. Did we learn. She was really gosh. I this is crazy. This is very informative. What network was this. This is your good morning america abramson. Shell shell really knocked it out of the park. And then they were then they were going to a commercial. They're going to break. So here's something. I may have talked to you about this. I talked to somebody about this. The biggest kick out of this. They got this big black football player. That might go straight. Michael straight handwrite. So anything that has to do with transgender or gays. Give it to the big black guy. They give it to him so as they were going to be reminded me was because they were going to the break with teasing upcoming upcoming. The teaser was upcoming story on billy porter and his fifteen year bout with aids michael. Stray hand will be taking it. That story oh my goodness that's why to skipped over to cbs. Cbs had some screwball new segment. This was the morning show with the gale and sensor cher's rayleigh guide. Yes so they get this guy. He's a black hipster. They get to three of around the table and this guy is standing by himself about about ten feet away with it with the background. Saying what to watch. And he's doing news items. It's got nothing to do with what to watch. And the guys wearing tight fitting kind of a pale blue short real short suit and a beige pork. Pie hat yummy. And he's standing there reading these black guy and he's standing there reading these in arrogance in the room. He comes his work sky. Chair understand this poor guy anyway wrapped up with him doing a thing on. Oh this is big news by the go take. Spotify has got a new playlist. Pray list a new playlist feature for your plants. Wow this versions of this was not a native ad was it you think. Wow who did the ad who did you should. That's what i would have wanted to hear. No it wasn't it. Was this guy. The black guys talking about us talk it was a it was a native. It was right into the in. The copy. spotify has say actually three different playlists for your house plants. Oh for different types of plants or different moods or if you want. I was getting sick to my stomach. So i don't remember the details. It was obviously a promotion for spotify fabulous programming skills excellent I always thought that the fly playlists were plants all the time. This it's interesting you say that because there's a lot of You know we just had the big upfront for well for podcasting but also for real real life. Yeah oh yeah podcasting upfront. You didn't know that. Yes oh yeah puts it on. It's not called an upfront is called something else. It's even stupider on a be up for your interactive age interactive advertising bureau or something. Yeah let's see the podcast upfront. Taty call it something else now. I a b podcast. Upfront twenty twenty. It's called listen up. We miss it already dammit. We miss it. You can get out you can get in front of everybody else in by your ads. Now there's so much inventory on podcast. It's only about twenty percent every field type so what why created. That's hard to believe adam. Boji thank you would know because you have an index. You doing that. Chris index is probably most if not all not all. But most of the podcast there. And what is the number. What is the number of podcasts. Out your one hundred thousand. Maybe that many that would be that would cause a lot of excess inventory like three and a half million what of which in the past sixty days only four hundred thousand have updated. So you know that's the last update was six hundred thousand. They're falling off. Well it's it's a sliding scale obviously yup. Yeah it's not a lot anyway. The reason i brought it up was an nbc. Universal had their up front and they're and they're doing something which i think is really tone deaf to what's happening with celebrities. There now really pushing the celebrities as the as the native ad pitchmen for their advertisers. Would they call it. What was that. what's that called. what was it called. The pike has called the host host read a host read host. Yeah this like this is a m radio back to. am radio in. Hollywood has gotten to the point where they have to get their ayla stars to do. Reads is a there. Are they that hard up. That's terrible yes Comcast's unit is pitching broad partnerships with stars during this year's tv ad buying ritual hoping it's poll with talent helps it strike bigger deals. Example is kelly clarkson with wayfair company that ships children in in cabinets. She'll be sponsoring. That should be doing the native ads. This is this is. I think it's is not gonna work. I mean no one cares. Celebrities died during covert. I mean not literally but they might as well have. No one cares anymore. Influences are the the the idiots tiktok. Hey hey hey. Hey you celebrity dance for me dance to a little diddy. I know from tiktok then. Maybe i'll listen to what you have to say. Well that's a good report. Jon rather distressing but It is expected to always be distressing. This is what we do. We deconstruct media here on the no agenda. Show if your brand new and we're going to do little round robin we going back to the mask. The big masturbate. Cuge masks debate as the cd said okay. You're vaccinated. don't worry about it. Everyone was all but well republicans conservatives are liars. Oh they're going to other go. That's exactly what the media said this past week and now let's see what the leaders are doing. Let's go to new york. I tonight though one time. Covert epicenter is breathing a little easier. Really nice to be walking around on a beautiful day with no mask. It's awesome things. Got going back to normal new york mask and social distancing mandates for fully vaccinated people many large events including broadway in the new york city marathon roaring back later this year. The bottom line is if you're vaccinated you have more freedom. Hey de blasio blow me is it was the exact phrase that was used on the on the three by three. I did this morning. If you're vaccinated you have more freedom. Yeah exactly so this is a this is the meam we cut that really early by the way that phrase but that's a phrase it is and it'll come back many times in the next couple of weeks. I'm sure but don't worry citizen. Who does anybody know how the constitution works. Trust your fellow american. You only have to trust the site distrust. The science trust the science. Let's look at some science. Let's go to california now. They were really caught. Flat-footed in california with this what what we have to prepare for this massive change of people not putting on a mask. We need more time that to wear a mask or not wear a mask. That is the question william shakespeare and even though the cdc has updated its guidelines for vaccinated. People it's not the law of the land that's still up to the states and right now. California's standing pat joe standing pat away. Say that they're following the einstein. I do believe that they should then followed the science right now. According to the state the science is telling them to wait until june. Fifteenth for more people to get back and businesses have enough time to prepare to fully open without mass restrictions. See signs tells california something different than new york. That's the worst nosy wrong. The science or whatever. The says june fifteenth actually has a date. Yes is it like the magic eight ball. Yes yes it said the science says. Oh we need a. That's what we need. We need magic. Eight ball kind of jingo. What the science says and then we can just fill in the blank and we can just say what does the science say. Pbs had a had. A bunch of the pbs. Newshour had a whole bunch of stuff about these this mask. And they're all they're all gonna what to make of it but this this guy this is this gathered browning larry guston some professor at georgetown. Of course. Georgetown spook city About the right to mask this under covy right to mask i i know you have in the past. Been supportive of this idea of some kind of proof of vaccination make the case. I mean a lot of people worry about people's rights and of course he has a right to make their own decision about their own health and wellbeing with they don't have the right to be unmasked in unvaccinated in a crowded place and and spread infection. Wow have the right to not wear a mask. Who was that. Who said that. This guy larry gaasten gio sti. He needs to be avoided at all costs. They don't have the right to not wear a mask. Don't have the right to not be vaccinated. Where do they get these people from the university of california system. I guess let's guys georgetown. I'm sorry george. Well then you know where they get them from well. Let's go back to california. Let's find out exactly what the parameters are of this new situation. People have so many questions and they wanna know. Why can't they take their mask off now. Here's the latest reasoning. The state is saying they want to get their vaccination levels higher the virus rate lower and also give businesses a chance to get the vaccine credit. Ready when you come into a business and make sure that you have that vaccine verification. Now i was little. I was a little confused by this clip. 'cause she said vaccine credit. Do you think she meant a accreditation or or does she mean credit card. Let's play it again because that would be the way to go by the way a vaccine credit card. You can only pay with a credit card that proves you've been vaccinated. Think about that. The state is saying they want to get their vaccination levels higher the virus rate lower and also give businesses a chance to get the vaccine credit. Ready when you come into a business and make sure that you have that vaccine verification. What that could maybe schmidt. qr code. She just miss it. X seen credit. Ready get your vaccine credit credit ready. I think she's just confused. Confused woman likely that or the business. You're going to get some extra money from the government if they only if they keep people out as i still think it's a good idea to do a credit card and it'll be like corona card accepted here and you're only allowed only allowed to purchase with that approved credit card which has a verification. You've been vaccinated. Come on mastercard. This is a great idea visa. Mastercard's little they're more little think they're more into that stuff but i could be wrong So let's go back to the business one more time. Canny business legally ask a guest their vaccination status. Oh yeah this is a. This is good little clip. Because you know what is hip who's allowed to ask what what are the parameters and the they tried to explain it in this little bit or kennedy business legally ask guest their vaccination status. Well the answer to that is yes. They can legally ask them but the guests doesn't have to tell them. Allow me to break it down for you. So here's the thing. Hippo directly prevents health professionals like your doctor from sharing your health information without your permission but when it comes to the average business the hippo rules do not apply meaning they can legally ask if you're vaccinated now like i said you do have the right not to answer but just know if you don't answer they had the right to not let you go inside but once again. Walk back here at the starbucks. Not many people are mass. Going in and associates are not asking them wow mean. Cdc says california says another some businesses. Say you gotta have. The mass and businesses don't So it's like so in mid june decides. I'm a mouth breathing. Mouth breathing headline reader a lot on those kinda good voice i Let's see we need to. We need a little to mix it up a little bit and make a little more fun a little more applicable to today's social issue. So we send you sh- sh- who works for pbs and msnbc from time to time often appears npr. She is the serial peers under a various progressive websites. Yes she is To be taken very seriously always has very serious questions and she asked this of gen authorised the largest national nurses union. Anything that the math is putting frontline workers and especially people of color admit. They're calling for the cdc to reverse that what's the white house to stance on that union in particular thing that that that their members and people were It's racist this whole thing. Don't even need to hear what sake said. Just i mean just throw some race in there because that's my job. Why don't think you've heard the michael and bid. Why don't they give her all the gay and transit stories to do and like michael shane. Shane ask something in the press conference. I can tell you a million reasons yes. Of course. I'm just saying that's come on. Let's this is brace bathing. If i've ever heard it but let's get it straight from the horse's mouth. Let's get a straight from the horse's mouth. A doctor will end ski. Who is director of the cdc. She will explain it to roy moore time real quick. Kaiser guidance changed on thursday. There's no need for everybody to start ripping off their masks. She's walking it back a little bits. Like take your time giving california there. They need a little to figure it all out. Let's find out what a doctor leave before you leave wilentz guide. You have to play this this. I know i have it to the best clip. This is the best clip. You have to listen to it. Carefully to realize why it's the best clin- and that you have to preface it by saying it is from the white house's own website is from the white house website is produced so they have like a questioned On the screen and then she says something is a question of the screen that she says something. This is the kid kind of the end of it. Were which is the best part in. i don't know. do they have people over there. That actually listen to these things. And say whoa. Whoa whoa. maybe we shouldn't put it that way. We can rephrase that. Can't we know there have anybody that can do that. The kirk divorce consulting group is still available before we achieve our final exit strategy. We would not allow this to go on the what the white house website as produced we have no reason to believe at getting vaccinated change menstrual cycle or make your period. Any heavier there have been decades and decades of research. In 'em aren a technology that led to the fines that allowed to meet this moment to create these life saving got in clinical trials. These jackson's were studied in. Ten thousand. People have administered over two hundred fifty million doses without any concerns for safety now. Did everybody catch it. We should probably just the last little bit one more time under fifty million doses without any concerns for safety. There you go. Can you believe that we've tested all of this without any concerns for safety. That's i mean if anything. That's the most unbelievable thing that ever came out of the white house. And i expected this just the beginning of the biden administration. We're going to get nothing but tons of this stuff. But how stupid are they say something like that. Have any concern for safety. Well you have to. I think we have to assume that they meant there was no concern because there is no safety issues for you know. I'm just not that forgiving anymore. Why wouldn't i just take him at face value. We've been trained to do that with with trump. So why not do it. Because i knew exactly been trained. You're right we've been trained to do this. There is a couple of interesting updates regarding The pressure for vaccination osha which the office for What is the office. It's the safety health administration. Thank you very much. Which makes sure you're safe at the while you're at your job. And they have imposed new guidance for employer required cova nineteen vaccines and they reiterate the interim reiterate that if you require your employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment work related reasons than any adverse reaction to covid nineteen vaccine is work related. It's recordable under a then. You have a law. Their ended the company could be liable for that. This is an interesting story. Because they've been playing this both ways. I mean the media has been trying to play it as if there's no well you know they got this covered dissuade anyone from discussing this like you just did I end. there's there's a number of vibrant looking at some articles about how it's actually illegal to do this requirement in the first place. So i think it's gone beyond liability. I think you're criminally liable decides just financially live. I think can get thrown into in jail. If somebody knows did digs up to write law now is watching watching. What was it. The five yesterday afternoon was on on fox and they're all so happy just to understand. How big the pharmaceutical power is. They're all so happy about the ohio incentive program where five people win one million dollars if they get vaccinated you show up and then and we. I think we had a clip. And it's it's actually from covid relief fund so we're paying for that and they're so excited because it's working. Hundreds of thousands of people are lining up to get vaccinated and all the jokes. I should've clicked something of it. All the jokes across the spectrum are all like. Wow this is great. The incentives are working people. Really the going out. It's fantastic way. And all i could think to get district. The incentive is is for all practical purposes. A fifty cent lottery ticket correct. Yeah okay and and i thought i mean no one said the following holy crap. The people in ohio are so destitute so close to the bottom with no money. All the factories gone jobs. You know they. I mean i can't speak for the job market because apparently people who wanna show up but no one ever considered that like this is desperation desperate. These people are desperate for the fifty cent lottery ticket. Give me that s so now. We'll probably see that spread out across more states. New york is already considering it. You believe that. As i mean. I i can't see it any other way defy. You said the five the fox show the five. They're all giddy about well. They're all provex. They have to be pro vaccine. They can't be answering your on fox right. Used even mentioned Pharma as fluence. If no problem. Violating our trademark by saying lara logan. No agenda and no problem with that sue them. We have to talk about. The lawyer. has called manny on the coast. We'll get that sticks right up. Get a lot of emails about that. All right now. Let us move on. Because there's a lot more to discuss. Remdesivir do remember remdesivir. Did remdesivir just to summarize. Was the out of the blue screwball drug. That was probably dangerous. If not unhealthy to use under any circumstances that was brought in as a as a foil to any discussion about hydroxy chloroquine. That is an accurate description and it was brought in as an antiviral against covid nineteen at all kinds of tasks. Nah what we saw point. Oh three improvement of people who were already dead. Something to that effect if i recall well the world health organization has removed remdesivir from its list of covid nineteen medicines. I thanks mainstream media. Good work on that one. It's off the list. Gotta love it. God love that won't get a lot of A lot of play in the media. I'm sure Now let's see vaccine hesitancy. Yes this is. This is still a thing you know. There's a there's a flyer going around from the ad council not a flyer pdf Did they put together. I think it was done Upon request of the cdc in something called the covid collaborative scarier is a public service. Thanks yeah well. It's the giving this to doctors. Nurses anyone who might who might happen to wander into a black and brown community. You know these zip codes that they always talk about. And if it's your job to Convince a black person in fact. I'm sorry this is only for black audiences. Sorry brown people. You're not in this one do's and don'ts which i thought was kind of interesting to To run through so they they say do say Owning here do address question. Edessa address frequently asked questions for example about pre existing conditions i e hypertension diabetes obesity lupus and the vaccines information needs to be clear honest and presented in plain language. Facts about safety are important. What you should not do is say. Just say the is solid. I mean this. This is really again showing you how little these these agencies think of americans do share the researchers made sure that the clinical trials included adults of diverse backgrounds races ethnicities. Don't indicate that black people were not included in clinical trials. Really simply say black. Americans have higher rates of hesitancy without explaining why or imply that vaccination uptake rests entirely on their shoulders. I mean this is like this whole like. Here's the children. This is the color you can identify them by and go out and and make sure you speak to him. The right way is this. Typical well to do is to me. I put the whole thing in the show. Notes worth a read through pretty pathetic. Oh my goodness just put an ad in jet magazine now. The lancet the lancet but nonetheless it's supposed to be a proper journal correct. That it was into. That scandal is a scandal. I think the hydroxychloroquine scandal where they published The the the bogus study from the bogus. Bogus modeling can bogus study. And they probably published more than a few. So i as far as i'm concerned i'm i'm skeptical. Welcome have lost his reputation with me well. They published covid nineteen vaccine efficacy and effectiveness. The elephant in parentheses. Not in the room and they talk about the are are are What they're really doing here saying how. How how effective are these vaccines. Based upon the minute percentage that you get covid at all and then taking their own ninety five or eighty. Five percent efficacy into Into the calculation so you come up with the absolute risk reduction versus the relative risk reduction. Does that make sense. Yeah kind of makes sense. I guess find some dish could do those that kind of care right latian. So non trivial. No so here's the the actual efficacy of these vaccines the absolute risk reduction. So how much does it really risk. Reduction is not the same as efficacy. Yes but it's how much it reduces your risk from getting covid. Okay my risk right now is ninety oil dying thing with the running. The risk of getting covert is. Well the astra zeneca vaccine will only reduce that by one point three percent lots yes. Pfizer will reduce your risk by zero point. Eighty four percent but dern surprisingly one point two n johnson and johnson with one point two and the sputnik is it comes into well. The same visor was zero point eighty four. That's the absolute risk reduction. You receive from. It doesn't seem worth it to me. We have to look at this paper hasn't done. That's that's that's a blockbuster. Of true in the put it righted. What they're saying is it doesn't really do much yes. Well that's why they say. The covid nineteen vaccine efficacy and effectiveness. The elephant in the room is because everyone sees it. Everybody knows it but they just. Maybe they're trying to make good with with somebody like you know. Hey i yes i think. I think everyone is starting to backtrack yup. I believe we talked about last. Show which i think is. They're not going to get approval. And i would end. They're going to back off. Well you know. We don't need approval now. anyway this. What i think is gonna disagree my prediction of how they're going to try to do this. They're going to say first of all they're not going to get approval. But how are they going to get out of. You just gave the three hundred. Million people in the united states is vaccine. That's not approved. There's never gonna be approved. What do you know what we're gonna do we we we did it ourselves. We've taken it out of trials. Ourselves is not gonna get approved because we don't care anymore because we have version to that we're putting through the trials instead and the booster. Don't forget the booster. We have a new while that will be part of the boost. Part of part of. It's gonna be like everyone's already taken the next who cares whether it's approved or not going to be the guy for i worked for pfizer. Look what's the point of getting going with its cost. You have no idea how much money adam. Yes you have no idea how much money it costs to get this thing approved and it's costing an ever is already taken the vaccine goes though. So what's what's up. Potential upside by going for approval. Is that really an additional ten percent to do anything. Because we've got another vaccine in the pipeline. Yes rather spend their money on that. It's more effective. Yes can you tell me. We be billing this as the variants variant. This this new. We'll take care of all the variants because it takes a slightly different look at the protein. It creates a different spike protein. That will take that pretty much all the very and we say. How can we say now with new and improved spike. Well that would be cute. But we're not gonna go that far because we're not. We're not trying to bamboozle the public in any anymore. Just gonna tell you what we're gonna do it right. Not bamboozling public okay. Well since we're talking about the clinical trials we now have approved under emergency use authorization to shoot up children between twelve and fifteen. Let's go to doctor jan over there on good morning america. So let's get right into it now. This is based on the clinical trial data in this age group. Twelve to fifteen years old with the pfizer. Covid nineteen vaccine seventy eight percent. The most tired complain or side effect tired the next day. That fatigue seventy-six percent headache. Then you go onto other things like chills. Almost fifty percent muscle pain forty two percent long term data. Obviously this is unknown. We don't have ten twenty years of data on these vaccines yet. Flood in the clinical trials. There have been zero serious side. Effects is really important when parents and pediatricians ask about the risks of this vaccine. This to me was totally orwellian tears. All this shit. These kids are feeling. We don't have any data so we really don't know about five or ten girl you don't know about ten months you don't even know ten weeks worth of data stop. I always thought the data and the kids is always just redesigned from date on the adults in the first place where i am wondering about this whole report but that was the weirdest report. Yes i a list. All these horrible things that happen to you and then they said nothing happens to you. How did they. How did they pull that off. That was very well structured. I think this report will one day go down as a war crime. It's already a award crime warcry. Let's play that again. I know it's well done. It's an and she does it with such a and she's cute and dr jen. She does it with such just. She's reading the prompter whom aplomb applaud. Let's get right into it on the clinical trial data in this age group. Twelve to fifteen years old with pfizer covid nineteen vaccine seventy eight percent. The most tired complaint or side effect tired the next day that fatigue. Seventy six percent headache. Then you go onto other things like chills. Almost fifty percent muscle pain forty two percent almost reading this like it's bad list. There's something very interesting about it. Like muscle pain. It's a fifty percent headache. And then just that muscle pain forty two percent long term data. Obviously this is unknown. We don't have ten twenty years of data on these vaccines yet. Flood in the clinical trials. There have been zero serious side effects and that is really important when parents and pediatricians ask about the risks of this vaccine. It's really about ten or twenty years. I mean i mean to give me ten months and these are. These are pre pubescent teens. Ma'am skimpy taking an early. You get them right on time. Well we have that woman. Richard brought up. I'm pretty sure i've got this clipped the woman in texas. The pediatrician who comes. Oh the one who spoke in the senate. Yeah angelina for hula. Uh-huh i have or testimony here. It's it's an eye opener all right. let's do it. This is texas senate angelina for willa. Welcome introduce yourself tomorrow. Thanks for having me this morning. Name is dr angelina parrella. I am a pediatrician and webster. Texas independence alot physician conspiracy theorist. I have come here today really to protect children texas. This is a very scary situation that we're in right now I just want to kind of touch on a few things. Some history Never in history before have we given medications. That were not. Fda approved to people that were not initially studied in the trial There were no trial patients that were under the age of eighteen. There were no trial patients that were previously exposed or had cove it. These are two very important points with this. The other issue is safety. I'm kind of a safety freak. I'm a pediatrician. i've been a pediatrician. For over twenty. Five years. I find myself a vaccine expert. I've given tens of thousands of vaccines in my office. I am not an antibac- sir. I'm a very provex. Actually except when it comes to this covid vaccine this what they all say if we can call it that the one of the big issues is the safety profile. safety and the defense Recommendations through the a ip which is the advisory committee of immu- immunization practices. They have made some recommendations in regards to the covid nineteen vaccine One of the things. That is extremely troubling. And it's on their acp guideline for the pfizer. Vaccine in particular that recommendations about safety and adverse events will come out after authorization after authorization. This is a very scary issue. We find out data on safety before we subject our patient population to this. We are currently allowing children. Sixteen seventeen years old to get this vaccine and they were never studied in this in this trial. You'll have to trust your fellow american. The only have to trust the size justice science girl. Wow so we get that. After the fact that's cool that's cool. Now that's a that's a warcry. I'm just gonna start writing them down. Wow goodwill outta war crimes. Yeah i love it she continues. We now have early effective outpatient treatment for covid. We've had it for a long time. as a pediatrician. I stepped up to the plate in texas to help texans adults because doctors in my community shut. Their doors locked their doors and refuse to treat patients. I've seen hundreds of adults active covid. I've also treated post vaccine problems in adults this is. I'm sorry that may be to you. Want to be playing to restarted. Just in case there are extrapolating. The data from jolts down to children adolescents. Children are not little adults not acceptable at all Have a ninety nine point nine nine seven percent survivability from the covid ninety nine point nine nine seven percent. Let me repeat that for you all to understand. And there's evidence that these children are actually a buffer. What that means. Is that these children actually. For some reason do not spread the disease. Children are not super spreader. So what we're doing to our kids right now is actually criminal we are. We are isolating them. We're putting them in masks which is also clinically dangerous. We are also telling them that. Psychologically telling them that if they bring cove at home they're going to kill grandma. Granddad aunt uncle mom and dad. That is a horrible horrible situation. Put on our kids. Let me go back to the rotavirus vaccine of nine thousand ninety nine. I've been in practice long enough. That i actually was giving rotavirus back in nineteen ninety nine and It was pulled off the market. Then because a fifteen cases of interception into deception is where the gut telescopes on itself interception is not necessarily life-threatening. It sometimes self reduces but the rotavirus axiom was actually pulled immediately and we stopped giving it to our kids and what has happened with this particular Vaccine is appalling to me. We have in excess of four thousand deaths in this thing has not been pulled yet. This is absolutely unacceptable. The on top of that you know a few years ago. Maybe some of you don't understand that we had a flu epidemic Pandemic on twenty seventeen and it killed ninety five thousand americans in ninety five thousand. Americans died despite the fact that we have early effective antiviral treatment for the flu around. That's an interesting accusation. So we didn't treat anyone for flu. Either get your. I think the point she's trying to this is a chief trying to make the point that with with the saying that we had ninety five thousand dead because we had early treatment. Who would more yes. That one was a was a killer could have gone on five hundred thousand and we had no early treatment or we had it for cova but we didn't use it and so then we with five hundred thousand could have been right which is the number that's questionable anyway. But it's probably at least three. She called that criminal as interesting because I was just reading this long. It's the front line. Cova critical care alliance which has a very professional looking website And they are with thinking about several lawsuits but they have a statement on irregular actions of public health agencies and widespread disinformation campaign against ivermectin. And they've got they've got the receipts. They got some proof about. I've remained was was some summarily dismissed as any type of treatment that this will eventually something just can't go on. Yeah something's gonna come out in the wash. I may if we two of us if we if we can on talk as since march of last year we're dopey in sleepy from the seven dwarfs a couple of guys that we figured it out. We saw it happen in real time. Finish this is still undisclosed. This is the third clip now. We now early effective treatment for covid. We've had it for a long time as a pediatrician. I stepped up to the plate in texas to help texans adults because doctors in my community shut. Their doors locked their doors and refuse to treat patients. I've seen hundreds of adults act of covid. I've also treated post vaccine problems in adults. This is again me stepping up to the plate. I'm becoming very vulnerable. Because as a pediatrician. This is not my wheelhouse. But i my wheelhouse is infectious disease. I see lots of little kids. They are petri dishes. The reason why they're a buffer is exactly that reason they have something called a thymus thymus helps them with t cell immunity. So that's another point for you to understand. Thank you for allowing me to speak. Forgot about the kid's damn those kids were there thymus. That's why. I recommend eating sweetbreads every so often you get louis diamond Dead famous another tip from your no agenda show anyway so these another tape. I'd like to take this track. Because she's talking about being criminal. We're talking about war crimes And since the mainstream media will not do it I'd like to rewind the clock thirty years ago. And i studied the aids epidemic very closely friend of mine died. I have all the books Have i've been pretty vocal about most of my thoughts but thirty years ago Dr let me think was his name. Robert law second. What was his name. wilner. Dr robert wilner spoke of a true genocide of gay people. Gay men mainly in the united states as the very same people who are bringing you this. You'll hear the names. Burkes is the only one that isn't on his list the very same people. He accuses them of killing them with a deadly drug which was as e t And of course the promise was we're going to find we're going to find a cure. We'll have a vaccine against aids and the never materialized and the crisis just kinda went away we have a pill that Somehow it works is not the cure for aids but all very suspicious considering what the accusations that were thrown by. Dr robert wilner back in thirty years ago. We're talking about probably a horrible scandal and scam ever perpetrated not only in the name of science but in humanity and history and i will put the lives of the individuals of the nih particularly gallo and fallacy and hazel plan. And the rest of these scoundrels. A restaurant starter. Criminals wealthy of genocide without a doubt. I invite them to take me to court. I wish burroughs wellcome take me to court because they have been putting out a killer drug knowing great because in a court of law. I would have the opportunity to provide the absolute proof in evidence as i have in my deadly lee deception. Now i'm not alone in what i'm doing here today. How does the press escapes such obvious with the finest virologist alone the most noted virologist member of our national academy of sciences duisburg would put his entire career on the line. Ripley has the burden back. Then we didn't have social media so you couldn't cancel someone you know you couldn't say. Oh you're a nutjob. I shouldn't even be a doctor. And then just cancel them or put a good where he's talking about your duisburg professor university of california. Yes and he was suspicious of this from the beginning because he said for one thing he said as tears gonna do the opposite. It was supposed to do that for sure but he was very skeptical about the aids virus. As a retrovirus. Because according to him and i think he's stuck by this right through the thick of it and did ruin his reputation as virologist and professor. Yeah he he he said that retroviruses just can't do it still doesn't make any sense. His main claim was hiv. That's the virus does not cause aids. That was his main thing and yes and he stuck by that absolutely. And there's some papers at you know the gallo guide there's a couple people who said they found some stuff but it's so sketchy and no one dies anymore after they stopped giving him as so And notice he says what's wrong with the media. Well hello it's big pharma. Who runs it. Sorry what was the year. We hit what we have to decide for the basis of our show. We have to determine the exact gate that it was allowable for big pharma to advertise on television. Ooh that's a good one. I i don't it may not have ever even have been forbidden. No it was forbidden a real or it was it was lisa gentlemen's agreement or something was was about it. There was sketchy when i ads showed up. There was a guy. We had a clipper. This clip was about six seven eight years ago. Where the guy who came up with the idea of advertising heavily just obscure drug heavily on television did an interview and he went on. I remember it more or less than you're not gonna be able to find it by looking up. I don't think i haven't tried this Npr drug prices in ads. no that's the reason behind advertising. Maybe maybe then. I had what you what you're looking. I'm gonna explain what he said he said. Even the people at the drug company thought it does just a waste of money and then when their sales went up by a factor of ten x they said. Oh we're onto something here and that was the beginning dare. We should figure out when that started it has to be. We have to have the exact date. Because it you'll start seeing a hate to use this phrase a sea change before and after that date in so far as the medias concern no doubt and that's why i laugh when people Still use the old antisemitic. Trope that the jews run the media. No they don't. The pharmaceutical companies and china run the media. And they probably run dr j. charges. Well if you look at the fis trial the on the on the arm that had the vaccine there were five or six series adverse events no desk but the serious adverse events thousand kids that were in on that arm on the on the other on the placebo arm. I think they had sixteen cases of kobe. But the cases were completely asymptomatic or very very mild in basically every single instance. So what's your trading is a cold or less for potential serious adverse event where the both a rare sixteen thousand five hundred thousand. It doesn't seem like it's a major thing to try to force parents to do. They don't want to do and actually i think it's actually in some sense. It's the wrong question. We should be using those doses to protect the elderly in asia in africa in south america with a lot of thousand doses of vaccinating children to get the same number of lifesavers status as just vaccinating a single eighty year old. Let's send those doses. Where really will do some good save some lives instead of trying to force parents to make this decision on the on the basis of i mean what good does it do. I'm not really sure from appoint health point of view. This this point was is may is being made by the left-wing media constantly. Why are we dosing our kids. Who don't need it when we can send a drug the vaccines to africa or or something to service them because africa which has a very low incidence of the disease compared to us in terms of the per capita is almost nothing. They they don't have any vaccine. You're correct old this part. This is very left wing media. Who who follow this this line of thinking and the only thing i can see is that this is about. You're not sharing. The world needs to be a global place. We need to give up the ip the intellectual properties. They can make their own think. That's part of it. It probably prime because the lefties are the ones who get the vector lining up for the vaccine and early. And they're also now they're also now starting to bitch about How many billionaires there are now because of the vaccine they're pointing out the ceo of moderna saying hey man and of course we know that whole that whole company is not even a science companies. It was almost like a house. Said car back is like a vaccine spec vaccine spec together so so now people are pissed like wait a minute. How come how come these a holes get to be rich. That's not okay here. Nine new billionaires the coming form profits from the covid nineteen jabs have helped at least nine people become billionaires so heads on sticks. And yeah yeah the coming after him the old fashioned way Ooh quick in between One of our producers clayton he. He showed me all the evidence of this. He he came he has the vials closed. Vials of jan. Johnson johnson and johnson pfizer madonna and the dilute and which you mix the pfizer and he did a test and he is sent us videos and none of them are either ties or affected by a household magnet. So when it goes in your arm it probably is not magnetic. Well stop the crisis. Well hey you know. It's one of these things people are still talking about it so talking about it and what You're no agenda show is talking about is Another new story on the mink. Denmark is now racing to dig up of dead mink. Yes on on with denmark. well So you know last year. Danish officials reported means were infecting humans with a mutated covid nineteen strain which led to harsh containment measures E- calling denmark entire seventeen million mink population. I'd say that's rather harsh They did have one of the largest mink industries in the world. that's probably part of the great reset. I have a problem with this the whole way the handled this and the minks are worth money because of the for why couldn't they so they had to kill. I don't know what they i guess i would say. Why don't you put has met suit on and run the mink through a gamma radiation sterilizing system. That's hot it would kill the new friday and all the bacteria in the frog all the viruses. How about just the would come out pristine at the other end. It could be gutted and used for for how direct weapon. Just fry him laugh. No gamma radiation device is used for for ultra pasteurization and other mechanisms. That it has does not leave any residual radiation is just. It's just like x rays kills. What's there in the in the box and they run it through assembly line system. Would they have a thing going to Every main goes through dead. I don't understand why they didn't do that. Well let's try. Let's try this out for size. So first of all they. The animals were Called illegally which even led to the resignation of the minister of agriculture and there were calls for the entire government to resign. I didn't know this so then they buried them in mass graves. Now you may also. It's also possible as we know from most or as far as we know from all corona virus trials that have been Eventually tried on animals. And without it's not the lab mice now. It should be ferrets or mink but ferrets. Typical that when they got the vaccine i eat the first virus or version of the virus. Whenever they got the second. One would just die in the most horrific way i to this day think that the culling was because they knew that these poor mink. We're going to just you know. Just die in in in a horrible way and you can't hide that when you see him on the ground so they had to like chop all the heads off. We got no time for divorce x idea. Then they threw him into the ground but they threw in a shallow grave and they started popping up like zombies because of the gases released from decaying bodies to bury them again. and now everyone's all it might pollute the local groundwater kill so now they have to dig them up again This this really needs more explanation really does is. It's like a nightmare. Something is something up with those guys. so dr walinsky from the cdc she did appear What does this on. I think meet the press Question a lot of people have as well. What do you do if you're immuno compromised if you have compromised immune system. Many people's immune system is compromised jab. Do you take the polk Do you mass for the rest of your life isn't any good and if your immuno compromised and fully vaccinated what would you recommend. Oh okay so you're fully vaccinated and immuno-compromised. Okay all right. Thanks chuck thank you very much for that question Certainly you know that was. That was a setup question. that's why she said and if you're so he can't he can't even read the word immune meena and if your immuno compromised and fully vaccinated. What would you recommend. Thank you very much for that question. certainly we know that and their emerging data to suggest that if you don't have a fully competent immune system from chemotherapy from transplants from other immune modulating agents. That the vaccine may not have worked as well for you so please before you take off your mask consult your physician. Wave and take the vaccine. I got two more here all mixed messages all these science nuts. It's unbelievable e. Should the local news around here they keep putting these different doctors on everyone of these radio stations. The news break and they all say different things. Nobody's on the same page. I wasn't even going to play this since you brought up. Different doctors greg gut felt has a show on fox which is unwatchable but one of our producers did and sent me a clip of dr drew. Who do like in respect. And he he had his little His two cents about masks vacs follow science. You are vaccinated. You not only cannot get significant disease. You can't transmit right back. Some so the only people have the warrior people that choose not vaccinated and they wear masks to protect themselves or not. They do not we us wearing a mask after having been vaccinated does follow the science. Nothing this is the same said. We didn't need to wear masks. Yeah and then. We need to wear my acid. I guess that was because we didn't have enough mass. Although everyone i see is wearing homemade masks right and now we don't want your accent you don't have to wear one and so this has been the person that is single handedly driven all the confusion. Yeah and has never really followed the science as developed itself. I mean i was told over the weekend by someone that i don't trust the government says and i'm starting to sort of believe she's talking about five she but notice. They're all in on the vaccine. It's all good no-one no-one over there. It says i don't even know about these. Vaccines are giving him the kids. None of that. it's pathetic. We've lost fox bad. We never had foxe's always from this day from the day we started this show. You always thought that fighting democrats. Yeah and i've i've given the example locally. We have a bunch of right wing station. We have left wing stations and there was a moment. I think continues where the left-wing station in the right wing stations. Both had the exact same program director came guy. He's i remember that now. Let's talk about your freedom because you don't have your freedom to you get the job no freedom. This is Oh yes okay. So amazon is vying to be a big healthcare provider and the way amazon does it is very typical style for them. Just like aws and they're amazon web services they use the stuff themselves internally first and then they see if they can make money off of it by selling it to someone so they're taking the same strategy with their healthcare so they're tele medicine app and service they've they. I gave it to all their employees and the employees to not only. Do you pissing the bottle. You're also like in in the amazon medical test. Okay we're just gonna go ahead. This is now your new healthcare so now With the mask not mask amazon has come up with their own. Little yudin stare idea as they have a green sticker green sticker. That allows you to go anywhere without your mask within amazon and this was discussed with the jim jordan of ohio. And i'm sure this is fox circle back around to amazon bill images were sent to me. Today of. How amazon is announcing this to their employees and some hr documents announcing the idea of this green sticker. They also are asking their employees when they log into when we check in whether or not they have been vaccinated again. I don't know if we have that image right now. We had a little bit earlier. This is a list of choices. For amazon employees to say they have been vaccinated whether or not they're just have received their first shot not yet their second shot whatnot they're going to get vaccinated or a fourth choice whether or not they choose not to be vaccinated. How was this a hippo violation for a company to be asking their employees their vaccination status. Yeah i don't know it's something that we need to look at but we also need to push back on this. I know governor is pushing back on this kind of maneuvers. This kind of action in his state. We have an elective office. Need to push back on this. I mean it's about your fundamental liberties about the constitution respecting the common sense and most important like we said several times respecting the science. For goodness sake. Hey dude once you go run something. These people all annoy me now. Jordan is getting on my nerves to what he does. He do anything except appear on fox news to any of these kind of stuff. He's he's very annoying. He's annoying and i should mention something by the way. What what. You're just described about these little stickers using an amazon when i was at the meet up a couple of the women. They're working cal. Berkeley by goto does people from cal berkeley but they work ethic on the campus. David doing the same thing. They're making them wear stays green and yellow stickers as they roll moran. I said once you make it a yellow star yes. The stars is the way to go. Yeah and then and you tattoo you're vaccine lot number on your the lot number should be tax. Should be on your forearm. Yes on the bottom part the bonus right. Yes yes go go. Google those pictures for historical context. Now australia they're pitting australians against each other now here we haven't really had an. I guess that's not true. New jersey new york did have a. You're coming from out of state you gotta quarantine rule Although i don't think they ever had armed guards at the bridges and tunnels But that was a general rule This is scott morrison In a conversation about the states in australia and how vaccine passports might be a way to go for them tonight from us to have the power to stop people crossing their border who haven't been vaccinated. Wouldn't it would have to be done in concert with stanton territories to actually prevent strategies moving from one site now the consistent with public health orders those public odors that are down at the state level of the instrument that is used to prevent strategy moving from one state to another pretty big reason to get vaccinated. I think it is. I think it is behind. These people are all evil is a good reason to get vaccinated. So you can travel across state lines to good reason. I'd say it's a good reason. That new fifty cents scratch off card mate. But that's that's only the smallest problem. That's the smallest problem. Australia has pivoting away for a moment. Pivoting out of the covid. I could not believe this is going on in new south wales australia. I what where our producers. Where is the evidence. Where is the video. Where is the outrage. Where is the fear of the mice. Look behind this. Mice plague is reaching horrific proportions. Psychologists saying the mental health impact of statewide infestation is comparable to a natural disaster like a bushfire or a flood. One family said quote. I've moved into studio. I'd moved into a house that moved into a walls. Other families report mice getting into the sheets and the linen bites and traps gas supermarket hardware. Shields across canberra empty. Well that people in the bushes spending thousands of dollars on my trips and bites many. Get a full night's sleep without waking up to the sound of my scarring through the homes in their beds in their wardrobes. Many these people are being through drought and bushfire. But this could be. The straw that breaks the camel's back stressful is awful worse than that family's lost fortune in prize grind their's look very economic havoc a must stress. This is affecting children. What eleven year old in warren city goes into the shed and there are thousands of them. The hey byles turned into mush mice running across your feet. And there's no relief for these children's school warren's. Mary's primary school has a hundred and forty children and staff. Mice of infested classrooms and the school yards. They said mouse traps constantly going off around everyone. The my shoe. Three pencils and books and paperwork as i said the bush's face drought flood now mice people thought if they got rain everything might be over but the seems to be no evidence of that families have to change bedsheets every other day the mice actually in their beds. I've been through one of these plagues. A kid terrifying. This is fantastic. You should see the video thousands of mice in the climbing up against walls on top of each other. And we're you saw video. Yeah this is aaron jones. A whole seven-minute report. I recognize his voice. But where is this a new south. Wales south wales. Yeah what it. Any specific town is the whole state. No he said his five hundred miles across. It's insane the five hundred miles away from san francisco los angeles mice all might no. But that's the plague is Is felt across five hundred miles. Yes oh yeah. Maybe kind of like the ants in in california. You don't really see it but it's there this is and he said that he has been through so this is not a new thing. This is something that's happened before i know in australia. They call the kangaroo for the very same reason. Because they are rodents and marsupials rodents. Trust me they're rodents narrowed down there. Rodents hip hopping rodents this forty million of them and they and they humped like crazy to they have to call them and and people get paid. They get paid for a roux bind for the kangaroo. Meat roominess. I like to call it or shit. I thought it was good now. Let's talk you've tried it. yes the with it. it's tough. it was just tough in. Maybe it wasn't cooked right. United australia from an australian. How could i go to. Australia is known for their great cooking ability. On the barbie they are the barbie. That's probably what they're doing wrong back. I've had the emu egg that was delicious. Oh that's gotta be good. You gotta eat. Eggs is supposed to be delicious too. I have yet to have one. Emu omelette is dynamite. Goose eggs are good. Yup goose eggs. Goose egg is like is like for people. I i don't wanna get off track. This is like this is better to go thirds or two thirds of maybe three quarters yoke. It's huge. It's like a giant yoke and very little white. Oh it's delicious. Perfect for for cakes and pastries anyway do against a mice plague. What do you do boys them it. If if it's vast just a sea of mice can poison a hell of a lot of other things. If you just poison you other things ethan mice and that's your research y'all. He reported you some bread for most of the animals. Lean mice when i eat a dead mouse. All right back to the cova. This is a this. Is the the next as you get onto this mice store from australia. I was in australia with the covid crossing the lines. And then i had to break for mice and then now this this is the news this is. This is from npr. So you're going to be hearing this. It's coming and Well this is just a setup. Scientists say they have discovered. You already know it's true. Scientists say scientists say they have discovered a new corona virus in malaysia. That can infect people. As npr's mike lean do cleft reports. There is no evidence that this virus can spread from person to person. This corona virus has never been seen before and is different than stars could watch causes covid. Nineteen dr gregory gray in his colleagues at duke university detected the virus in samples taken from pneumonia patients at a hospital. They tested about three hundred samples in found signs of a new virus in eight of them. That's a pretty high prevalence of Viruses you know two point seven percent or saying saying that were positive. That is remarkable. Likely comes from dogs so far. He's been town. Only in one. Part of malaysia called sarawak. The findings appear in the journal. Clinical infectious diseases coming for your pets. The coming year assertion a. It's gonna jump from dog to human dead setting it up. Why else this story. Oh we have a new corona virus transfer to humans yet. It happens in dogs never near humans. it's a beautiful setup. Maybe it's just a just a backup just in case in case we need a new one. Well so what do you think it is destinations began. Maybe they'll keep pfizer from marketing yet. Another vaccine well so this is the question. Where does everyone move from here. So i i am convinced. That vaccine passports will be a thing but it will be optional. You can also take a test show test. Do do a couple of tests. I'm not a for border crossings. Not too worried about that. I i am seeing total. Push towards making Businesses and private industry Mandate this But i think you're right. It's it's over it's done with. They had to chop it all off immediately. Everyone's freaking out what I it's effective now tonight. Don't need them winding down fast. Very fast very very fast to people in fact if you don't notice this or if you see it in your local news coverage or anyone out there and they're not winding it down. They never got the memo right. They're going to be called up eventually. Say hey look we got nothing or they're going to have to. They're going to crank up some more. It's gonna wind down by the by by july fourth of july fourth. They're gonna go slow but after that is going to be is not going to be more case. I think this already. I think the thing is past bias months ago. Oh yes and you know. The the guy who i did i'll get it for For sunday top virologist is now the french guy. So i'd have to read it to you while he's speaking But has subtitles. he saying these variants. It's from vaccinating people every immune immunologist every virologist ever knows you do not you do not repeat do not vaccinate during the pandemic says the variants come from people who are vaccinated. Yes lot of a lot of these guys have asserted this and you know so. Oh my goodness thank god this podcast and stuff. I mean so. At least we feel like we feel like we're in a world where makes more sense is man eight out there. it's not on cable. it's not over the air. It's not in the newspapers and it's really not on the web and with that. I'd like to thank you for your courtesy in the morning to you. The man who put to seize the cova child abuse. John c diff What are we drinking today Today i'm glad moved on. Its tab its tab isn't it. I can tell a nokia. V eight sparkling energy more pineapple drink. So why wouldn't you just eat an orange and a pineapple. because this has got energy doesn't say tell me about the energy executives energy. Let me sip it. let me you. I felt you've been pretty energetic today. So maybe there's something to got up early l. Okay that's good. We like it when you get up this energy during yeah baby excellent. Well the even get a deal with them. I wouldn't mind having a little bit of V8 juice in the morning. they may be amenable. we haven't gotten a deal from anybody else. Canadians haven't coughed up. La la also loses. its Its carbonation very quickly. I've noticed yeah. He is not a v. Eight sparkling energy has got no got no vegetables in on. Whether it's called the brand is i thought. V eight had eight vegetables. That's what i it came in the little cans my parents this stuff. This is a clear drink. Says that novell here is a clear. Drink yes clear. Clear during this orange tint being man. You're drinking chemicals. What is in that caffeine. You're talking it. Looks like about as much caffeine more caffeine in cola. More as much caffeine as a red but to red bull amount of Caffeine have to. That's great floride in there. Any other movie ingredients in the morning. What is md. A-list here do you want to say in the morning anybody in the morning you anymore. 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He's he's a professional may have you may do other things but i know. He's a professional cartoonist. Well he did a magneto. Six are piece of art with a what is it a rat it dies. Molly is with the with the magnet. Just funny you just look at that peace and you can't help but crack up. I think it's the the on the mouse's face and see. What else did we consider. No we're not going to put rachel maddow on our album arts. No we told you before one of the things we won't do. We don't have any offensive images anything ugly because we don't want to dissociate with the show so if you want if you run a piece of I remember some years ago. So i did. Some toothless picks that they got from the guy's not they like you know. No that's not going on the on the art so rachel maddow in that category. Yeah a deli tony. His a tube cute. But now you used the pandemic's for dummies in the In the newsletter. Didn't you yeah. I liked that. Make your own pandemic. We have that already used. The douglas has lost at least twice before. Was there anything else we can say. Oh you kind of liked the rewire by mountain jay with the matter the it kinda bordered on corona virus art all the problem. Yeah let's see. What else i just can't tuned into riley's piece from the and was also the mask forever with the skull with a mask on it. I think we looked at that. But we thought you know not really put desa -ssarily i tell ya depends on the skull but i. I just depends on the skull. Some skulls are funny now. These were not funny. These were kind of debt like real skulls. You're like oh that's a skull you probably if you have a podcast two point. Oh compatible Podcast app which you must try today. Whatever you're using now to stop using it unless it already is podcast to compatible go to new podcast. Apps dot com. You can see the this artwork flying by There's links in the chapters. We have transcripts. You can search in the transcript. How about that. Oh what did they say on that. 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It's a perfect combination. You guys support. It will continue to do it. I'm gonna die spitting in this mike. I tell you if you wanna learn how to contribute goto dot org slash and thank you again for your time your talent. You're producing thirteen. Forty eight formula is this. We go out. We hit people in the mouth. Do you want a quick little austin update before we launch into something else. Yes so on the eleventh of may by stop you before you do that. I should mention that people should relish these because we will not be getting them in a month. that's correct. We are moving out of town. We are moving towards the waco report. Which useless yes. We're moving to waco the done. That's funny in so many different ways the waco report. No this is the austin report where we had a a referendum of sorts. We had a an off year election where we had a proposition put on the ballot to reinstate the camping ban and since the camping ban has been instated the The city of austin has done absolutely nothing in fact The first that we have a sixty day transition period which has now been determined by the city council instead of saying hey the law is now in place you gotta go away. And here's some places you could go instead the first thirty months community service We'll be out with the un housed along with the police. The police will be a handing out pamphlets letting them know that in thirty days they'll be back and in thirty days to come back and then they will maybe hand out some tickets and only after sixty days maybe after sixty days Will they start to remove people now. The of course this being liberal austin all. What are we going to do these people. We have to have a spot for them but right now they have surrounded city hall. This is fantastic to keep an eye were We went debt. We drove downtown last night for our second anniversary dinner. I love you darling. For saying yes. Thank you for making me. Legit the photo yes. There's photos she posted a photo on instagram. But of no photos of the tense. What i wanted to tell you why it's dangerous there on so these two the tents. Not which you're never allowed to camp in front of city hall now. It's all around city hall all the way up second street and there's a blm boss and there's unruly characters now like big dudes who are in these tents. Something is brewing. And it's going to come to a head. There's going to be fighting and it's going to be at city hall. I guarantee you. These are these characters are up to no good. They should be removed from city hall immediately. It has never been allowed there. But okay and it's it's it's it's i can't have no words how trash that's where i live two years ago. We live there now. You cannot walk on the sidewalk. it's it's crazy. So what has the city controller. Now done he said well. I know what we'll do. We'll just designate city parks in diff- in everyone. Everyone has some city parks in their in their district. And we'll have forty five different places which will now be city parks which have to be a minimum of two acres fours. Preferred will be transformed into camping sites. You can imagine this is not going over very well today. The city of also released a list of forty five potential sites that could become designated homeless. Encampments pal is live for us at givens park which is one of the spots on the list jacqueline. A lot of options on the list or city parks like this or recreation centers places with a lot of space to put everything that people need to stay there now. The city of austin wants any designated camping spot to at least have about two acres or more and also to have room for a putting things like tense shelter in restrooms showers. People white need so today. I went homeless outreach. Resource team as they gave out these flyers and went around educating people who are camping about what the move might look like eventually given their. I look at the city's list so far for areas that could transform into something like this council members had mixed reactions. I'm right now. Not confident about the ones that are on this list right now but i hope that we can get our heads together concerns about wildfire and flooding risk in some spots and policing the homeless and busy parks the city managers. Stressed council members will play a role in looking for other potential properties. We're going to be following up with each of you individually to look at other potential sites in your district. Those may not be city owned properties. But maybe you have a relationship with a private landowner mentioned today. That of the seventy places originally said he properties that is originally identified as potential spots. They are still betting some of them. So this list of forty five. You could see some of those still added to this list but again council members seemed to take a lot of issue with some of the locations in their briefing today so they are really stressing that this list is in no way final and that it may even be possible that none of the spots on this list are eventually picked. You can imagine people not wanting the park neighborhood. Become filthy campground. Many of the next did i hear them say that they want the city council. The do site checks defined places calia. They're insane these people how. 'bout you're not allowed to camp in the city of austin bobai. No no no no and guess where. There's no no can't no camp schedule tarrytown clarksville seven eight seven four the chic est zip code. Nah nothing plan there with the rich people live. Wow this semester. We have situation the san francisco area san francisco. The walgreens made an announcement. Yesterday they're pulling all the walgreens out there's like nineteen of them. Keep getting robbed right. Yes the shoplifting. Is out of control because the the the socialist district attorney of san francisco is a socialist is like was raised by bill. Ayers i believe it makes sense with obama together bill. He was taking it. I think it was an orphan or something to socialist And he's down he will. He's the one who adopted the anything under a thousand dollars not worth depletion be bothered so if you get your window broken into bad if you if somebody goes into your store and steals at ninety buck dress at two big deal. Nothing to it seems going to happen. Here is exactly the same not in waco and we won't stand for that shit in waco waco. The shooter awake now so while we're on just a crazy and remember these these people here in austin. We played the clip before this vote. Who said i really. I really want this to pass. But i'm going to vote against because they feel so horrible for these people and now they're interviewing the une housed and they're showed well look at all the crazy some of the mcrae's he's like look at all these knives got. Here's my machete The show all drugged out. did not from austin they are not our neighbors they moved in because it was easy to just not from austin. But austin is austin is welcoming stupid and here. Here's you have always said when we first discussed the noodle boy phenomenon. Which how many years ago would we first identified this whining noodle boy my seven maybe longer. My implying is not fair. Doesn't tells us what to do is all wrong. Is this guy. Thinks he's the boss because he owns the place so you have been very clear. You cannot let these types of figures into your organization. Oh if only juice land head listened for austin area do slant shops are closed. One is running on limited operations in austin amid an ongoing strike. An instagram launched sunday called juice. Land workers rights details and ongoing dispute over wages and allegations of racism and sexism. Juice lan told kicks an on saturday. It would increase wages to a guaranteed fifteen dollars an hour starting sunday. The company also started drafting a diversity equity and inclusion planning and we'll create additional ways for employees offer feedback. You know what the problem is is not even the fifteen dollars an hour you can get you can break. Probably pay him twenty dollars an hour. They're so desperate for people to work. The problem is ruined racism. The equity and there was a specific complaint about bathrooms. They wanna trans bathroom. So they've closed down. Five juice lands because of these demands. They can't get anyone to work. Well that's what you get when you hire these folk you're buying yourself a ticket auto business. Well let's listen to some more noodle gun stuff freshman may soon be a thing of the past. At penn state. The school is considering eliminating gender binary terms instead students would be known as first second third or fourth year students to be more inclusive. The terms under and upperclassmen may also be eliminated. So you can't say freshman freshman because it has the word men in it off more got in it. Well no they took it out. It's first second third fourth year. A boring com oxford though oxford holy crap. They're taking it to a whole new level. And look i not this absurd story emerging from oxford university. They got to teach students that. Imperial measurements including the mile in shod pound announced a quote tied deeply to the idea of empire right. Oxford university is going to decolonize imperial measurements and introduced the new curriculum to teach quote the history of baden measurement mark license. And i keep telling you this everywhere this stuff. There was a new vice chancellor. Louise richardson who wants to decolonize teaching at oxford. Whatever that means dishonor students. This summer will conduct research to determine how science teaching can be made less eurocentric unquote. It's the same old stuff in a lettuce sign by thirty five college principles. last june. it said quote. The university has as britain does a history about by colonialism and imperialism. Unquiet the watch. Johnston said quite many departments in the social sciences had begun work to make their curriculum more inclusive and adding diverse voices on quite well. Of course i am plow so imperial measurements now are colonial. This is going to bring me to my series of clips. Okay so do i do the noodle gun now or do i wait for it i would play more noodle gun and then let me go to discuss this. Would i would. I have clips from the university of california berkeley health departments The school of public health the school of public health commencement which they stupidly put on online bad idea bad. All right i'll lead you into it. We we just need to talk about three stories Matty in the morning. You know matt siegel no don't well. He's kissed one away in in boston. He's been on boston. Radio for forty years He's pretty much gone. Now because key was talking about demi levato coming out as being enter sexual intersex which. I'm not advising. Oh no nonbinary she binary yes. She came out as being non binary pan sex intersex But she's nonbinary and he was a he was saying. Well this is dumb and the kiss one away does now owned by iheartradio and they said no no. You can't talk about that so you can't say that's dumb can't do that. Bob garfield bob garfield co host of on the media for two decades in a wnyc fired finding a media guide. Yes yes with with brooke gladstone. Exactly yes Why fired a news reader. No bob garfield longtime co host of wnyc's popular program on the media has been fired after two separate investigations found. He had violated an anti bullying policy. He apparently yelled into meetings. By let me tell you something about About media is like when shit doesn't go right it gets heated and whether it's on the floor whether it's What is it then. We have a larry. O'donnell i mean that's a great A great example when you when you get play the clip which one what what was it. What what is the was under. Larryelder donaldson Stopped a hammering. I studied play the longer version of that. Okay let me see. If i have to be under lawrence o'donnell i have this isn't i think. Let me just say. I've not talked about it publicly. I don't know how but let me. Just say this that I know that's That's him talking about is that i have been hammering. I have i have stopped the hammering. But it's only the it's only this tucker we're hammering. Anyway you get the idea. Is you gets heated. People yell at bill. O'reilly bill o'reilly We'll do it live. As another example clear he was really mad Curiously don't have these continue. Okay fuck it do it live. I all right it and we'll do it. Live fucking thinks that's tomorrow and that. Is it for us today bill. O'reilly thanks again for watching by the way just before the camera or goes on or the mike crack. It's very typical for someone to be you fucking ass. I can't believe you suck so much. And it's time for the news now on wwltv. That's an old joke sitcoms. Do that happens all the time. And then he got fired for being angry at a meeting. Yes and then the. Ceo of the autobahn society has stepped down amid internal turmoil. Yeah well the nash. Here it is. That's a funny one It they were trying to unionize whoops and the guy. Apparently was racist. That's what the that worries racist racist. Get rid of of. She used race pasta locked. Very careful who you hire people very very careful. it's a plague. They're going to have to get better. They're going to have to can have to be better. But until then don't hire these people they will ruin your organization and your life all right Let's let's listen to some of the Speeches to the new people who are going to ruin your life who are on their way out of college. Ready to go ruin some business. All right i'm trying to figure out which is the first of these tips and must be It's not h. P. m. one that's we're talking about something else. There is the first. Is they actually the best. Minute should be the long one of the longer ones. Hp one is one fifty four. Yeah i don't know if that's it but let's let's Okay so we had the school of public health and they had the d the associate dean come on. Who's a very screwy looking woman. And then they brought the dean on. The deemed wasn't much better He's like a asian guy and Well let's start with hp m. one okay good afternoon. Everyone welcome to the twenty twenty one berkeley public health virtual commencement but he just quinn hussy. I use the pronoun. She her mississippi for student always starting honors. This is quinn hussy. We just started this over. I want i should say this in advance of this clip and maybe a couple of others because she's kind of dull i- sweetened a little bit so we could understand what was going on. Okay with some aside side. Notice if you overdo it you gotta be careful on the never overdo it afternoon. Everyone welcome to the twenty twenty one. Berkeley public health virtual commencement. My name is quinn. Hussy i use the pronoun. She her mississippi for students and have the honor of serving your mc for event today before we begin our event. I would like to take a few moments to land. Acknowledgement this knowledge that was written by the american indian graduate program in the office of graduate diversity. We recognize the berkeley sits on the territory of who the original landscape of the channa speaking aloni people the successors of the sovereign verona band of alameda. County this region continues to be of great importance to them. Awake my aloni tribe and other familiar descendants of the borana ban. We recognize that. Every member of the berkeley community has and continues to benefit from the use and occupation occupation occupation fan since institution's founding in eighteen sixty eight consistent with our values of community inclusion and diversity. We have a responsibility to manage and make visible the university's relationship to native peoples as members of the berkeley community. It is vitally important that we not only recognize the history of the land on which we stand but also we recognize that wake loony people are alive and flourishing members of the occupation of embroider bay area communities. Today next i would like to offer a minute of silence for the following to honor all black and brown lives have been lost to police violence in. Pretend all my goodness oh. Wow okay. Boy surname queen hussy. Why does she just come out win. Quinn hussy hi. i'm queen hussy i suck. That's a key guide a One of these mohawk haircut. No now i have to go look at her and she has. She's all the guard that they had but instead just the garbage. That kind of drew that vestment that the you wear these commencement bowtie on it. I'd never seen that before. Some goofy lookin' bow tie so she comes on and she does this Quinn is named quinn. Dean comes on after that before to go to the dean to skip to the undergraduate speaker. Who comes on and this is she. Introduces this is a guy who was born and raised in california some little town in california but it goes on a bus or she goes on about his nigerian heritage as though california's part of nigeria and he goes on with the kind of the same thing which which which will bring me to a point after you play this clip. This is the The uc b. s. p. h. Undergrad speaker undergraduate speaker to the multitude two goes here was born and raised in elk grove. California and is proud of his nigerian heritage our during his time cal he served as the co founder president of atp berkeley an organization for pre physical therapist nurse and physician's assistant actually got sent me an email currently serves as the co senator for equity and inclusion in the region to in chancellor's scholars association and is honored to have been a regents and chancellor's scholar himself in pleased to introduce our undergraduate speaker. She goes the a modern before. Starting this discourse. I would like to acknowledge that this land. We are arm is a territory of aligning people by and it is on this land united injustice in undeserved privilege in undeserved village in undeserved relig- in it is also on their land that each of is able to earn our degrees from the esteemed uc berkeley school of public on a second. How many people are claiming this land. No they're not claiming missing the point. You you're not from california. You don't know what you're doing. You have no idea what they're doing is they're thanking these for the use of the land and soon they occupy understand how many tribes blow this land thousand. That's what i mean is like it was the rookie. And now it's the new guys hamas in addition to that and if they don't have a casino that we have to thank him even more because they should have a casino that got ripped off somehow how they're not gonna casinos that part of the only casino i know is the one. I'm a san pablo. That's a specific tribe that used to have some land there and they'd rail road area when i remember when they're they're they're living there. What is the braille. Okay so what do you think your estimation since you live there. You've lived there a long time. What is the point of this This thanking for clearly occupying and having kicked them off their land. What is it to rub it in their faces every time what it sounds like to me is an insult yes like. Hey thanks sucker land you. Dummies look look at this cool cap. I got on graduating college idiots. I think the university just give the land back to the indians if they feel this way right away right now. What is the point of. You said it's occupied. This woman said is occupying. Nazi occupiers like the israelis occupying palestine. Get out. Get out. So i don't get it but the other thing is you're going to hear what the rest of these clips is. What is the school. I have been very annoyed by the health departments of the entire country. They're they're lording it over. Doctors very few of them have medical degrees. They're all they all have masters of public health. Which like masters of business administration there. Lording it over everybody. 'cause they can cause of this virus they've taken advantage of it. There are a bunch of social justice warriors. Many of them and i would say everybody. I saw this video could only be described as misfits. Goofy looking wannabe. Hitler's hold on. So let me just understand because they are the at the health school and they have these impressive papers. They get the talk a lot on television. Tell everyone how it's going to go and what we should do is. Is that what you're saying that that's the power they vote. That's what's going on seen it. So it's like Like the nerd who got a really big key chain keys. All doors aka change us. That's the one. Yes okay i got. It can jump around nablus. I go to the dean of the school. Some some character who. I just play this one minute clip from the dean us as their dean and out. And you're going to hear what a real complaint of mine couldn't option everyone. And congratulations a huge congratulations to our graduating class of twenty twenty one and let me also take a moment to extend my congratulations to all of you out. There cheering on our graduates today as few every step of the way fans and friends spouses and partners parents and grandparents siblings and loved ones without whom are graduates. Nabi here today graduation this time for gratitude so for all the ways support our graduate emotionally and financially for all the time to proof-read babysat as their side. Even when you weren't quite sure what the public health degree for all the encouragements gave all the sacrifices you've made on behalf of the graduating class of twenty twenty one. I just want to say thank you. You did well disguised the gene of a unit of college at the university of california. And he says you did good. Did he also throw in any ways he might as well have you did. Well is the way it should be put. If you're an academician at a university that level but no no not at this school you did good. You did good. I really enjoy you on this new v. Eight juice this is. It's a new you jacked up. Yes that's going to love. The i love those kinds languages. Flexible john language so they got they had fouled she on this thing they have the guy who is the they have this redeem character. The guy who's the new surgeon general. Oh that was the vac. Vivek vacuum rice at how this guy became a vice admiral in the navy. I'd like to know to the an honorary degree you get when you're the surgeon general. I'm gonna take well. Yes probably won't take a look at background. This guy is very. And i don't know if i can use this word correctly but he's very fe. Yes yes yes. He's like a a worse comes on and he has a couple. He has a little jammed. The drop drop on us and this him he comes on to give a talk to extremism. This is where the vet murthy. Does he his pronouns before he starts or no no. I was irked by the fact that one person gave her pronouns and nobody else did very lame. It's not on board with the program all right here. We go back to the graduates that last two thousand twenty one. It's truly an honor to be with you. All graduating today have been quite a journey together and a lot of it has been unexpected. You may not have expected defined the close friends and mentors. You've found here. I'm guessing you didn't expect to consume so much bullet to your coffee so This because the health services used to be a part of the military. That's why he has a title of rank of vice admiral. But it's not in the navy. It's in the us. Public health service commissioned corps which is pretty much. Yeah you get the job you get the outfit boba t. Well he's He's part indian part british. So of course. We want to take advice from him. Blake all of our people in hollywood. I thought there was lame. Now you start to hear the now what you find out from these these schools especially at cal. Is this kind of activism. They're not the worst. The public health got to do it so far. What have you heard that as a public health it's all about activism moving things around listen to a couple of different people yours guy. I think i believe this guy's either one of the professors. This ball miss environmental health sciences. There's a He's he's i believe is one of the professors who teaches environmental health sciences. Listen to the short little clip. What he has to say. I especially want to commend here commitment to environmental and social justice and advocacy for diversity equity and inclusion in our program. You've made our ehs program better. And i know you will take this commitment and advocacy with you to make the world better as well done good advocacy. Yes did you listen to what he said carefully. Let's play against everyone can hear. I specially want to commend here. Commitment to environmental and social justice and advocacy for diversity equity and inclusion in our program. You've made our hsa program better. And i know you will take this commitment and advocacy with you to make the world better as well. That's almost like the ceo juice land saying. Hey thanks everybody thanks. Thanks for shutting down until you got your bathrooms well. This guy wasn't shut down by any means are being more encouraged but this this idea that these people are graduating with a master's degree in public health to to go out and do advocacy and social justice. Used the word social justice and women at the meet up mentioned that they're always adding this new word which may be showing up in our conversation. In other words you want equity social justice gaba law and belonging. Ooh and have a lot of a lot of people bent out of shape. What what does that mean. Don't know belonging it's all communist talk so it is so this guy is pretty. Here's another one. This is from the health public health public management program or some. This is h. pm impact. Listen to this hp graduates. We are so excited to see. Are you will use what you've gained in the program as you're making change maker. Level impacts change maker rebel impacts miserable maker level impacts. You're coming out of the school. You're you're coming out of the school is an activist. Don't hire people from the university of california school of public health. They're gonna come in there to change things but what what did public health officials due to. Just like. Just like the admiral. Sit there and tell you they well until the cova thing. They didn't do jack shit. You sat around and inspected restaurants. I got a rat problem here. Bill we got some rat droppings. You guys here's the seventy two hour notice to get clean up your mess. So now their job is hey mask on set their job. Is that what they graduate. They want to know there was more than gone is mask on. Lets you get your freedoms if you listen to me it just a whole thing. These people need to be hunted down. L. lee riley. They gave an award out to this guy and that guy. Now listen to this character leroy. I think he's he's either teaches there. He's got some a lost track of what these people do. But listen to this one lee riley. What he's talking about. Thank you now. It's my turn to congratulate the infectious disease students so we all went through a very difficult year as we all know and and now you guys are graduating. And this word. Congratulations miss a lot. More than he did in the past and so for the students you've got to learn and witness real time what a pandemic does and also learn the public health is the only thing standing between some sort of semblance of normal life a complete collapse of the world order by a hope. You also recognized that now. We can't just go back to normal life we had pre pandemic we can go back to the normal life that unquestioningly accepted the kind of public health system. That was totally unprepared to address the pandemic and we can go back to life. As usual that agenda all the health of just parodies that were unmasking full force by the pandemic. So please don't go back to your pre pandemic normal life create a different then again. Congratulations and best of luck in stayntouch. Wow this. I won a list of all the names. We need to avoid these people there. That's so arrogant like you sync really without us. You know you'd be dead you need us. And i would like to point out that. Neither the admiral rear admiral under trump or the rear admiral vice admiral under biden. Neither one have said. Here's what you can do for a healthy immune system. It's a good idea to drink some v eight even that i would accept. They've done nothing of the sort not got. This is the point. They're not doctors. They're bureaucrats are higher to be a beer in a bureaucratic agency. At one of the. When the i didn't get all eclipse i have and i took another dozen tanks. But they're bureaucrats they don't they have no care about doctoring or anybody's real. Health is about public health in other words. Let's make sure that there's no rats at the restaurant and and bakes the vaccines are well. Now that we've got this covert thing going on and we we we can lorded over everybody. And that's what they've been doing. The health department has been dominating the conversation and all the counties. Oh the health department says you can't stay at home in one of the clips. Which i don't have this clip. They were bragging about the guy who became alumni of the year was the guy who did the first shutdown the first lock down and is a great thing because now we got a little dictator. Luckett down down. Stay at home order. I stay at home order alumni of the year from the health. The from this school of public health is the guy who was in san francisco at the time now has this was on youtube. Yeah you to their our. The likes and dislikes where they're more dislikes got good stuff. It was a lot of likes man. My advice get out. What are you waiting for. You get out of california. Dick the best. They're gonna come for you. Anybody the be there at the door. they'll they'll get. I'd get lured by that car that jay has parked in the driveway. Pretty art car and they'll come up your driveway and they come up the steps now. They see the art car. I'm exempt that eric finally sent me. He sent me a picture of thank you john. That car is beautiful isn't it and she hand painted that the output pictures in the next newsletter. I wish she took her about a month. I would like to propose something with the car. I would like to make that car. It would only we can we can. We can just need a small addition just a little sticker. I'd like to make it the vehicle of the no agenda morning sue. You're listening to the agenda mornings. You get lonely. Radio correct sir. Now we are so excited about our exit strategy to turn the show into the morning zoo that we are doing pilot pilot that is is producing We are still in the middle of casting. we We have not yet sure up deals with dame jennifer as our Lewd news lady Nor have we showed up a deal with mo To be our community services director and sports guy and we're still auditioning for our entertainment reporter and we had a we had a very specific spec. We want Gay sounding and should be a gay one could we. Can't you know this is hollywood rules. If you're gonna sound gay you've got to be gay And we have a. We can't just have sounding. This does no good wearing black. Face doesn't work not work and we have We have a script which will be in. The show knows also posting it to know agenda. Social i will say interest is high. I've many of our gay male producers have Have raised their hand and are very excited. even Two of our official no agenda transsexuals have thrown their hat into the ring So i i mean we could get bonus points for having The morning zoo with the with the trans entertainment reporter. But i maybe i personally think we off the model off off the model and i think we stick with the with the with the overly gate entertainment reporter but we should probably consider adding an intern. Who's on the spectrum. That could be just comes into go. Yeah never just any work. That never does any work. Does everything wrong. we now. Without asking we already received one audition tape which allowed the it's not a scripted one and the and of course for descriptive one the one. We're going to consider but this is definitely worth listening to in the morning. This is clay that gay dan again. Because if i've been done once i'll be done again. I just had to say that. I am so upset that ariana grande decided to get married without telling any of us. That means i'm going to have to have a private ceremony of my own for her with all of my cats. And keep this short and sweet like my ex boyfriend i have the same to your tinkle. Dinger is anywhere near as big as your glasses. Where in the eighties. Oh my god coming in on that. And i could just imagine that adam curry's fro below is as equally quaffed as the hair on top of his head. Thank you guys for your time in the morning. Now what did you think of of this audition. Well it was a. I think had the right rhythm. What little slow between stories or meaning that sound effects could use a little bit of sound effects editing and sound effect. Yeah well now. I think you're in charge of that. So that's your department. Had the fumed food if you you thought. The jokes were good jokes. Were good and we expect the person to do that. Gets the job to have a or to win the addiction. Addition who has a sense of humor and can beef up script undisrupted. I submitted which will be linked in the show is fairly Vanilla unfortunately this This audition null and void. This person cannot participate. Yes we yes. Because he's not gay. Yes for your consideration. I've been john fletcher fletcher. Fleischer hadn't told if you didn't put that on there. I never would have known. He did such a good gay out. Got greg shouting. Voices got his and he's got a nice deep voice to. He's got a terrific voices. Yes maybe he could do the whole show. Just give them the script and l. it the whole thing be relative phil hendrie. No does nothing for me. No idea phil hendrie as a dj are now. I'm so he's a talk show host and he shows up in different markets in the only stays there for version. You should look him up you only stays there for. We've actually played phil hendrie clips on this show. He goes in there and he plays a whole show. He is the guy that's doing the interview. And then he's is the guy being interviewed and he uses two different. Mike's and he's a little switch with some noise and so he's like and so. Then what do you think about that. And so he'll he'll he'll dream the characters who are extremely offensive guests nice and then he starts taking calls and his people that are just pissed off at this guest and then the guest and the caller will go at it and the whole thing is the whole thing's of fake except for the call ends and so he he he'll go into a market for about six months to almost you'll stay. What some markets for to get out and asked to get out. Yeah because he's he's he's done. Because everyone knew that guy douche phil hendrie look him up something of a genius if you if you've never heard him before swear he was interviewing somebody but there's no it's just him troll room asking if the identify as gay is that is that i think we might. That's fletcher actually. That may be a good point. You have to identify as gay all the time. It's not just a one and done on the no. You can't just depart time. Identifying is not gonna cut him as an entertainment product. Can't be fake okay. Yeah no carino fakery on this show. It's gotta be real Hey is this a big deal this. At and t. warnermedia discovery is that. Is that a big deal. This merger we talked about it on the. Da's unplugged show. I haven't heard it. So i mean jeff. Another is another exit yet another example of. At and t. buying into media properties and then they don't know how to run on what they're doing and they're just go out of business. I mean they both was when they by. Aol bought a property from ziff davis wants. That was a loser. It was an online system in the early days of the internet and it was like going to be competitive with e. world the god e world. I forgot about e world. Ziff had one of these things and at and t. bought it for a. I thought it was a joke but they bought it for like five hundred million dollars. It was worth nothing and it's just folded. At and t. is incompetent with these properties that means discoveries done cutler. I guess they haven't much better with the own. Cnn and that's kind of that's and so jeff zucker may be. Is he going to be the ceo of the whole shebang. That'd be great. I think that's there'd be out of business in no time. I think that's the idea. I think he's supposed to be the ceo he kind kinda got screwed The last time around is shot now. He's ready to go. Yeah well it will linger linger wasting money for two or three years in the just be shuttered. Yeah so much for shark week. We're going to get destroyed shark week with a shark. Load the shark shark week. Nazis isn't that what discovery channel shark weekend shark week and nazis. Yeah exactly what. it is. Okay that well. I was speaking of the media the doing everything they can to keep trump In the news and with a little assist from the attorney general or see the she the the attorney general for new york attorney name. Yes they have a headline but let's really deconstruct what's being said here tonight. New legal trouble for former president trump legal trouble new york attorney general letitia james announcing we are now actively investigating the trump organization in a criminal capacity along with the manhattan. Da the original investigation was sparked by mr three cohen. Who claimed mr trump deliberately provided incorrect of assets in official documents tonight. The former president slamming the investment. So wait a minute. Let me get this straight. so now. they're also. We have a headline do to attorney. General new york is going after from criminal criminal. Eb was originally suggested by his attorney. That's where the story starts to fall. Apart demand you bring that jamaican and then he falsified the valuation of property on official documents. Oh you mean when he went in for loan or when he valued his taxes you can value real estate in many different ways. But this is now going to be made criminal. I don't know much about the real estate business. But i remember this accusation. We laughed about it the first time around. And now they're back here's abc. We begin with the breaking news. The investigation into former president trump's company the trump organization has taken a serious turn rule newton investigation by the new york attorney. General's office is now looking into potential criminal charges. The attorney general has been investigating possible violations over the way the company valued its holdings to get loans and tax benefits. Ag's office says it's informed the trump organization that the case is no longer purely civil. It's now being investigated in a criminal capacity along with a manhattan district attorney. Who's conducting a similar investigation. There's been no comment from the trump organization but trump has previously criticized. The investigations as politically motivated bombshell bomb. Show i you know the thing is. This is the kind of crap coverage we get from the media. The first question i'm asking to myself is is over. Valuing the property to get more money or is he undervaluing the property to get less taxes. It's one or the other either overvaluing bigger loan but then your taxes are higher or your undervaluing to get a smaller. Loan means you're not ripping off the banks like he always supposedly does and to get lower taxes. And i don't know about you or anybody else. Michael dell by the way in texas has been fighting with the texas state government forever about evaluation of his house in austin. That's right and we have the we have you know. We have property and they come in all of a sudden with some reared assessment. And by the way it's the county assessors assessment to fight him the minute we purchased this house. They immediately came in with an assessment of one hundred thousand dollars more than we paid for it. Yeah and you fight it and the only people who win this is the lawyers will. It's besides the point. They did long-term you. Everyone wins but you do this sort of thing if you're in the business and what are they thinking these these idiots from what are they trying to do. I think this is just a ginned. Up story is bullcrap it. It's a story that was already story. We already heard this accusation. It's true and it's right is contradictory. it's one or the other. but why don't they find out which it is it. They're they're the news. People i would like to know if he's doing or undervaluing like you just have a number. There's just throwing out ballots. Just not reporting. Did you mistake it for news. I'm sorry this you think that was a news report. Big mistake well. Let's stay with the trump paid for a moment the maricopa county recount continues and the arizona election administrator. Well matt had this piece no matter. What's happening there. it's being discredited. And they may be onto the biggest scandal in the in the world. But i doubt we'll ever know with this kind of reporting i have been accused of inserting fake ballots deliver from south korean plane more recently. I have been accused of deleting entire databases even though i participated in the transference of all databases to the senate have seen them with my own eyes. And even though i still have access to the current fully functional voting database. It is enough supervisor. Hickman has even been accused of feeding ballots to hundreds of thousands of chickens at his farm and then purposefully incinerating them incinerating the chickens to cover up the evidence that the chickens a ballots. Because you wouldn't incinerate the ballots. You'd want them to pass through a chicken first and then got to get rid of the chicken c- come on. Don't think we don't know how to play this game without chicken. In the middle of the incineration process can be reverse engineered. Joe biden would be president. Okay so it's not being taken seriously obviously about the chicken before ridiculing. There's all she does the chicken one myself. But the what's a little more serious. And i would task any of our producers Preferably now does not a lot of people that watch it in fact it. It had an asterix the other day or an attic as As our rev al would say. I would like someone to create a little super cut of nicole wallace on deadline white house. I think it is in the afternoon on. Msnbc just at the amount of time she cavalierly says well. You know the insurrection. It was the most horrible events if going to do it again. the big lie. I mean it's just continuously as if there was this horrible thing that took place on january six when there is there is no evidence factors counter evidence that this was a violent coup of violent takeover as the gut. Five people were murdered. None of it is true but they keep repeating that over and over again which is why of course fun when you mccue so one of the big lie because you are in fact. Propagating the lie. I'd love to have a little super cut of how many times they say this shit and to make it real to make it real and this will go down as real because there's no stopping the train. The media reports history we now we need a nine eleven style commission because clearly. This is exactly the same we need to have. The same type of aim is nine eleven same terror. Same fear same shitty report because the eleven report excluded twenty-eight pages which implicated the true nature of the attacks which or at least the attackers are. Which was somebody arabia. That was obvious. Gated twenty-eight pages go look it up you can find him why that was denied even at first that there were any extra pages and then finally came out under the trump administration and And also went nowhere but the whole nine eleven commission is discredited. The whole report is discredited. If not only by the fact that they admitted that and did not focus it all on saudi arabia where the attackers came from so doesn't matter. We want one of those for january six lesser. The house just voted to create a nine eleven style commission to study the events of january. Sixth here at the capitol thirty five. Republicans joined all democrats in voting for this a significant break with republican leadership including kevin mccarthy and former president trump who oppose the commission but now faces an uncertain future in the senate where minority leader mitch. Mcconnell said today. He opposes the commission as well. That vote could come as early as next week. I don't know if that's going to get through. The senate seems unlikely there this smart money. Even what is the point. Is it only to just solidify that. This was a horrible event. That's the has to be the point right. The prove that trump's a bad person should not be running a republican. This is like a like mccain like cheney those people i think a lot of republicans who want this commission so they can get regain control of the party. And get rid of people. Like laura. Laura bob bert and and marjorie. They hate those marjorie. It's marjorie taylor. Green but i think marjorie is her new name. Marjorie would ever. Yeah i like her. I saw her on tucker. And i like i like her too. I like i misjudged her. I thought she was idiot. The first time you play the clip when she was all jacked up But then i saw here like oh. I kind of like her. She's a and she is. She's a cross fit to to cross trainer. she can lift. You know three hundred pounds. She can lift through. 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He can explain the entire israeli problem in fifteen seconds. This whole thing was started by mahmoud abbas fatah party mahmoud abbas cancelled elections at the end of april and then because he cancelled lectures because he thought was going to win he decided he was going to lounge launch a round of violence and mass not wanting to be one up by facade decided to get involved by firing hundreds of rockets at israel. We ended up now. At least we know what's going on. Okay this is good as good as anything else. I've heard thanks ben. I have two clips to finish off with all right the first one i don't if they should do the funnier one. They're both actually kind of odd. But that start with this one. This is Somebody sent this to me. So one of our producers says this. This is a norman. Lear group at work we throwing in bullcrap dialogue. This got nothing to do with this story. It's got nothing to do with moving the story along which is a violation of storytelling. a one. but that's okay so we have is a little slip in here on global warming from the show new amsterdam gets hotter every year. I can't believe it's not even june. What is the world's going to be like when you're a grown up because it is a slow moving train wreck right now and nobody is doing any. Did you speak up. I can't hear you over at the turbines belching freon into the air for right. I turn the low flow nozzle in the shower. I compost. i turn off the faucet whenever brushing my teeth. Okay i have like sixty of those reusable cloth shopping bags yet. So you won't mind if i turn this on second because making her comfortable. Which makes you comfortable. Everyone talks a good game about sacrifice right up until the second threatens their comfort including you max. No wonder people. Don't wanna watch this garbage. His probably one of the reasons. Oh my air conditioner belching freon into the atmosphere. That's all that was when we had the hole in the ozone twenty. They haven't had freon in an air conditioner for at least twenty years. Probably thirty of bogus. So there's an air conditioner doesn't belch freon belgium's cold air freons not pouring out at. It cannot as the guys who are doing these assignments. They're supposed to be helping the writers you know. Put slip stuff in but you can't do a vicious bullcrap just lies. Took a lousy job all right. I have my last clip. I get one more if you want to. Clip is funny. No it's not funny funny last clip. I don't think it's funny but it's just. Britain brings in a new a new buzz word. They're trying to push it to try to make this happen. you know. it's like belonging baby. It's just like one of these things they want to. You know want to catch on it. 'cause racism is not doing the trick is losing his own f- to they'd come up with color ism. Oh that's been around. Yeah but they're pushing it now on on. Pbs their whole special on it. They wanted what color ism is racist racist black people against lesser black people brown different shades and it includes the brown people who are also racist against their own people and we call racist. You've got to call it a color. I don't know but i do have a short clip about it. Because they're all girl in a tizzy about it is the global beauty standard. It's reinforced in marketing. By the multibillion dollar business of skin lightening products hundreds of obscure brands. And some very well known ones as well niche. Fair and lovely is one of the most recognizable brands across south asia and parts of africa. It's made by lever better known america for dove caress and dozens of other household products sociologist. Margaret hunter has studied color ism globally in some countries. The names are very overt white in beautiful white dream. Introducing you my body wash. In other countries including the united states. We use a little bit more coded language but they are selling the same set of values skin creams have long been marketed to black brown americans but when a doughy arrived here at one thousand nine she discovered that as an immigrant. She was part of a specific targeted audience. It's not tattoo the someone is but also the asian communities one community and connects Communities armed with a master's degree in public health she started a group called beauty. Well creating awareness campaign with the minnesota department of health. That warned about skin lightening creams that were tested and found to contain mercury. Now i have to make some comments. First of all they start. This one of those weird mixed messages is almost like the the woody allen joke words some bitches and moans about the food at the restaurant being so crummy it's horrible it's inevitable and the other woman says yeah and the portions are so small that that is kind of what dispe piece was about. Because they're bitching and moaning about the whole thing being you know an insult to eighty and then they go into this and it's toxic got mercury in it and they said they switch gears and go on and on about the quality of the products. I mean if make your mind up well it's very misguided in Shame on pbs. I'll have to watch this if anyone wants a complete deconstruction of color ism is listening to mow facts without him. Curry episode number nine. The whole episode was about color ism And it's been around for a long time and did you know on. This will just be my little. Ask john that. There was something called the brown paper bag test at That was discussed our first guest in great detail on some early sitcoms that were done by the gathered this one show and i can't remember the was produced by a black guy was a comic and he He also played a character in the show is the writer and they talked about debris paper bag test. You could not be darker than than a brown paper bag and you were not allowed into the black college and there's a lot of color ism amongst brown and black people. It's a very interesting topic. Turns out everybody's just racist or maybe everyone's just a human being to just people all right. I'm not gonna play my last clip because it's like ending on this. Let's end on a social note. John equities social justices are name for all baby. Adam e curry longing yes long. I seek belonging We've got a cool k tel ad coming up. Which will remind you some great goodies and show mixes tom stark weather checks in and sound guy. Steve all end of show. We've got a lot of them. Then we Always appreciate what our show mixers do. And until we hit pflueger ville coming to you from the capital jones star state opportunities. Thirty three in fact. Here in austin texas t number six and the government will match if you looking for in the morning everybody. I'm out curry and from northern silicon valley where i remain. I'm john c devora. We've return on sunday with another edition of the no agenda show. We've got a bowl after bowl coming up next on. No agenda stream dot com boost those guys on a podcast in two point. Oh up until sunday audio smo- foes presents no agenda hits a great new album with the original hits and hurries heat eight no rest for the trigger bomb them again and again we must. We must we came. We saw he died. And all the obama hits like okay. Da da da da sucking in search. No no four. Opie magical shape shifting jews show. Let's get social wrong again. Some dot in address again naturally. Yeah quadruple platinum. I got it again. Math mask cute. You do when you wear. Mapping that theater notice here we go again with the. Let's get down to the facts. The hard nucleus around the navy forms in times of war to do when you were a mask. Wear masks mask. We're mad we're we're mad. Wear masks people. See the indoors without a man i mean before the cdc made the recommendation change like i was giving mixed signals. The unvaccinated get vaccinated protect themselves and other unvaccinated people around wears off seen on air force. One and you have to get home. Maybe down their three percent of the steinway's fully vaccinated just thirty three percent high. I am now much more comfortable in people seem me indoors without a mask. I mean i would think you'd opportunity. When i say that about the navy bedier together tonight i come to talk about two million women. We can't stop now. Some nine million women too many women that is not right. Two million women. Let's make that permanent. One thousand women think about too many women for miles. That's all i'm ask america's on we have to dominate. The all know i to be clear. Let's get to work like me too many women that's all i'm asking you argue to be ask. I can say still more willing to do. Eight hundred thousand one hundred percent hundred thousand now. I want to be cleared about in america. We do our part. We all know too many women six six about. I don't know about you. But i never see death. Forty thousand seven hundred sixteen one hundred sixty million arguing list to be too many women. Audio's moepo dot org slash and i call this keenest politics.

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"Edith kedah. I want you to put it in your mouth okay. You get that bail. You get the film and curry. John's twenty twenty one. This is your ward winning key. Nation media fascination episode thirteen fifty four. This is no agenda fighting very spin. Broadcasting live from opportunities zone thirty three here in the frontier of austin texas capital of the drone star statement. Everybody i'm adam curry and from northern silicon valley where it's sunny and cold. I'm john cd borat. Well there's nothing like a short weather report to get the day started. Yeah that's all. I do them. Dessus created as i can get at the beginning of the show us all right. Did you do a three by serie. I did as a matter of time talking. Jay z reform. Abc's assume renting to everybody three by three you where we check in with the real news of the day as johnson takes time out of his busy morning money to look at what's going on so Nbc is hopeless. It's all ads nine that when they go to today's show. I go buy go-to cbs content. I go to. Abc there's content nbc's ads. i go to abc. There's more content. A cbs more content nbc more ads. Then nbc cuts to the show. Which is a boxes. Six by six bucks or assess by said success secto box. It's a big box anders. Everyone's working from home. They're not working from home at abc. They're not working from home at cbs. But they're working from home at nbc. That's why it's all ads and so the next day you go to. Nbc finally komo with some content. It's just some previews of what's coming and then a cut to the local weather. And then they come back as previews of what's coming and then they cut away more. Ads is just the worst. We're gonna watch the today show. We're kind of ads. Was anything of note pharma just junk ads. Good morning america. i go to get the deal segment. The the way Teased the they have a statement like this but they never showed it to me. deals just a bunch of stuff. They're selling with codes and all the rest of they get a piece of the action is okay like a call to action stuff. Yeah hey hey look what. This great headphones all these headphones run sale. You mean you'd like a discount and get to my pillow's. Yeah what the i watching for. A minute was a great 'cause his father's day coming up. Yeah and they've got a great deal of the deal and omaha steaks you've heard of them. Yes yeah omaha. Steaks fifty percent off awesome deals pref kept saying really man. Okay bs yeah okay. We go It's just a bunch of people that were working or they went to school and there's some program to get him home is called data. What it's called gold. And then they cut away from that as quick as they could do a whole segment and a special promotion of the new space jam. Movie with lebron james and wait and that was cbs. Cbs has more entertainment news than good morning. America who who's movies. It lebron james. I know whom i have. No idea. probably warner's natural who who's doing space jam. But it's big do this franchise whatever new players around. They can bring them in the tournament to a cartoon. I'm just wondering if it's a house at the c. Cbs sony they got Let me see. Let me see you. Keep on going and all post like well. That's all there was. Oh they they did back to nbc. They did have a quick cut to the veloce. Castro lump sum some Coaster lhasa coaster which is a big deal. They're opening it up. Somewhere in florida veloce coaster. Nice it was. These shows are are drek. of course they wouldn't expect jeez. Well luckily there's a lot going on a lot for us to talk about. And i'll give my own little three by three which is a one by one. The kademi country music awards had their award show last night. Nobody knew. I didn't know i didn't know and i like country. I'd like macos award show big fan. You're you're your major major major junkie. Didn't know about it. No and that makes sense because it had zero point eight rating in the demo point. Eight the demographic asterisk and get with you know they've got to stop thinking that celebrities are important keith. Urban love the guy but having him host the show that these people we've been through this many times they have no influence. Get some tiktok children up there. You want some ratings tiktok kids. That's what you wanna do idiots so there's so much going on and i'm thinking you know we we. Obviously a lot of people are covid reporting tired. I think we're tired of it and to me. Although i can certainly go into it. There's so much now about the that versus the lab theory. It's just a distraction is just to keep you not looking from what's happening with the new world order the globalist the g. Seven proposes global tax rates. The globalist coming out on television and talking about things and how powerful they are. And it's a it's a mess but what we what i think we should do for. Covert is addressed. The one thing that is now being used in anything connected to the british empire the u. k. india canada australia and new zealand and that is the d variant the delta variant which is just a renamed for the be one one seven. And it's like be one one seven better name. of course it is. My sister in law called me. Yo adam what's up with the delta variant there. She never asked me about the be one one seven so it's a great name and maybe just to catch everybody up on the past four days of mainstream media here in the united states. The m five and we have a house made super cut by the clip custodian. Neil jones himself tonight houston becoming the first. Us city to see cases of mall the reported various. The delta varian fueled a surge in india and is now the dominant strain in the uk says variant of the viruses stoking some alarm and in that corona virus. Emergency new fears about a double newton variant. What's your level of concern about this new variant these new variants. You've described them as a combination of mutations all at the same time. I wanna ask you about it but within these mutations i guess technically there is a new variant of this virus that you have said that we have to. It's already inside this country. As well we're likely to see us regionalized epidemics with new variant east and west coast punch of new variants. Who's now been reinfected with the south african variant aim at discover new highly contagious variant combined with british parents and manley indian very lean. Now about his new variant. These more noon along will take us to get the booster shots. That is a summary and working in the in. The royal countries in the old country looks like uk is going to continue their restrictions for another week candy navia flaw and actually someone reminded me of you. Remember that whistle blower leak from canada and we were laughing about it but then everything turned out to be true. Oh yes the survivors. Doing mostly laughing. Mice semi snow was when it was one of those notes where i say this could be completely nuts but we need to read it no matter what yeah. It was read. It was red and it's pretty much right down to where we are now. Second quarter of twenty twenty one. I have the the highlights of the of the whistle blower email slash document transition everyone into basic universal income or universal basic income. That is what should be happening just about now as people are breaking they have no money. The it's breaking everything's breaking in. You and i are free men more or less the you have to wear a diaper. Or how's that doing. California with the masks is that become less. There was still full on if you go in a store. Everyone wears masks if you are floating around. Now i'm seeing less and less masks on bicyclists. You should have seen him in the first place I guess some people over at the moment cleaning up the yard in. They're not. Nobody's wearing a mask. Of course there mexicans. They're smart smart so okay well here. It's it's done. I'd say forty percents still wearing masks outside as well and if you look at all the man on the street interviews most of it is To make other people feel comfortable that kind of thing but otherwise. Now we're we're open. I really love that. I have two quick clips from abc. There's a number of states follow that. Oh yeah no word for example We'll go back to the three by three earlier. They did when they did that. Little report on veloce coaster. They had three people three. Correspondents in the field with microphones all right next to each other in florida and they like the happiest people that had ever worked at nbc. Ch- well the variants word is fantastic. And it's going to crop up a couple times today. Variants is just. It's a new buzzword and to quickly with the from abc the delta variant fueled a surge in india surge our dominant strain in the uk spreading rapidly among twelve to twenty year olds president biden and medical experts. Say it's an urgent reason for young people to get vaccinated now everywhere in the uk or on british youtube. You see even some politician saying well. Yeah spreading real fast as variant but look at the numbers. there's no hospitalizations this is just a symptomatic spread. And they're being tested tested. I have a clip. Your that i wanted to play which is from npr I have had more covert stuff than i wanted this cove. This is a similar report but this from south america and is the covert south america report and this is same thing they don't even there's no numbers day just vague gender. I think there's still all scare the americans absolutely and the brits but it's working dire warning on the covid nineteen out there. Much of the region new infections are at the highest levels now of any time during the pandemic. Here's npr's will stone. The picture throughout much of latin america is bleak. Four of the five countries with the highest death counts in the world last week were in the region in central america. Panama and guatemala are seeing big increases. Much of south air service archer ninety dishes. Dr director of the pan american health organization says even with the doubling or tripling of hospital beds across the continent. Icu manson fool. Oxygen is running new and house workers overwhelmed. Die perfect for number one dead. Two thousand ten thousand no. I have something with percentages which is another short. One percentage is better than hard numbers. They give us no numbers. They're just trying to scare the public. This is shameful. Listen to this right now. The delta variant makes up six percent of samples tested in the us. Dr fauci warning. The us is not in the clear. We cannot let that happen in the united states. If you've had your first does make sure you get that second dose. He says it's critical to get fully vaccinated. The pfizer vaccine was eighty eight percent effective against the delta variant after the second dose but only thirty three percent effective after. Just one dose. Oh thirty three percent effective after. Just one dose. These people are so blatant about there signaling. Thirty three thirty three percents. Give me a break Well we can move on from here to incentives you got it. You get this thing. Because i have any new incentives any new incentive incentives all over the place next in vaccination rates could hit a new high. Thanks to this idea. More people for the shot officials in washington state are allowing licensed marijuana dealers too. Yeah that's right. Give out free join stanton who gets a job. A similar ben. Washing thousand people vaccinated so now. They're using the jabs. Because of course it's alliterate with joins ha but i found an even more disgusting pun filled report as i'll give the reporter credit for going to a shop and saying hey. Is this working people coming here. In droves spoiler alert. No but listen to this. It takes medical marijuana to a higher level the humble joint now being used in a war in support of drugs. You think. Many people are going to be interested in this. Yeah it'll ashington state again. How much interest in. The joints for jabs campaign is still in question. Only three dispensaries in the entire state formally asked the state about the program including ice in seattle. And now there's another sticking point when it comes to the program. I think the hardest part right now is. I'm being able to find somebody. Who can administer the vaccinations breweries and bars. That ran similar tonight their own pop up clinics and find qualified people who actually come administer the shots before anybody gets their free. We'd you only need to show proof of vaccination to get a free beer. Do you think this might dissuade people from coming out and getting their shot. I think the hype of it might slow down a little bit. And i think there could be a fear of losing interest. Just come in provide their proof of vaccination and be able to receive their diet and go make it a lot easier it much. Easier the state liquor and cannabis sports customers have to actually get the shot at the pot shop to discourage them from travel from store to store to get a free joint. That's the part that i love hadn't even thought about that. If you just have a vaccination card you can keep going into bars. Go to the next barg. A free drink. I like that. I think that's good in order to stimulate the black community of america. We had Dr jill biden along with the aunt. Dr anthony fauci go to harlem at a vaccination drive in and tell everybody to get vaccinated. 'cause you know if you don't vaccine black this morning the campaign for vaccines hits the road. You the president's. Kobe adviser dr anthony foul she and first lady dr jill biden visiting a vaccination clinic set up at a harlem church sunday afternoon. Trying to encourage people to get the vaccine. We're going to end this outbreak and vehicle to end is vaccination less than one million doses of the vaccine are being administered day. According to the cdc that is down about seventy percent from the peak in april when the country was averaging about three point three million a day. The slowdown could put the president's july fourth goal in jeopardy the deadline he set for seventy percent of adults to be at least partially vaccinated. The president declaring june a month of action right now about sixty three percent have gotten at least one dose three hundred million vaccine. Doses have been administered in total. Hurry up you know. if if you don't get vaccinated you could be like the loser. The big loser who didn't get vaccinated in time. That's right the big golfer loser. Pga a reminder this weekend that the fight is not over golfer. Jon rahm folding over with disappointment as he was told that he had tested positive for covid forced to withdraw from the memorial tournament. Rob was leading by six strokes when he got the news the pga saying he was subject to contact. Tracing protocols had come into close contact with the person who was covert positive. Rob is ace. Cinematic the golfer now in isolation they lock them up again got screwed over cut. Nothing no symptoms. He probably doesn't have it holding scam. it's incredible defect. That ever was not up in arms about this is beyond me. I'll we're up in arms. Well okay. I guess announced kind of kind of up in arms The fair system came back online. The adverse event reporting system for vaccinations Although still not updated past may twenty eighth we did see a major change in the mortality figures. You know how it was. Like three hundred dead from johnson and johnson and the and over two thousand each moderna and pfizer the kind of the same numbers and well. That's changed now back back. Zombie apocalypse upon us. Johnson and johnson is now over a thousand deaths and pfizer and modern have gone down a little bit so they they move them over. Hey how come. Those guys don't have a higher number remember. They were down the whole weekend. That's i guess that's what they were doing is getting it all set. The hand pruned. It i do. I got a series of disgusted clips. We love disgusting clips on this show. Vivek murthy murph. Oh my god you got this is great from. npr was on npr. That doing a qna. There's are pretty short The first one the intros live longer and he is. You know that clip was mccollum in a going to the black churches and black church guy said you know we knew the government was lying all along right. Yes here's an example of the government. Latently lying to you and this vivek character is really shameful. He's the worst. He's the surgeon general the united states. They should be ashamed of himself. But let's play this got repeating. He is the surgeon general of the united states. It is his. Is his office job to communicate good health to the american people. I don't think is aiding other job that has but to communicate good behavior. And he's not he's a. I say a cheerleader for good health and yes amongst americans yes so. He's lying everybody with his ideas Solicited clip where they introduce him. Here are some numbers to get excited about in the us more than half the eligible population. That's people twelve and older are fully vaccinated and new corona virus infections have fallen to their lowest point since the pandemic began under fourteen thousand a day but we know you still have a lot of unanswered questions for example. How long does vaccine protection last. Will there'd be booster shots available when can young children get vaccinated or they carriers and what is the us doing to prevent this. Would this is an interesting thing. They're doing never heard. Npr do this instead of just reading these questions. They splice them in. There's two people they're they're doing this whole. Let me listen to that again of unanswered questions for example. How long does vaccine protection last. Will there be booster shots available. When can young edited in. That's a that's a whole different background. Sound on that. That's nuts nuts. It's just a little. I okay messing up just as just assume that you're right on probably you probably are because you have the ear fort In other words what they've done here to this and they've actually pre produced they produce yes a segment instead of just reading some copy. Hey ball long as vaccine protection. Last there'd be booster shots available when young children get vaccinated or they carriers and what is the us doing to prevent the spread of variance. The americans feel safe in terms of international travel and global cosmic manage. And what is the us doing to prevent the spread of variants when we got the chance to do an interview with the us surgeon general. This week we've got answers. We did that on. Twitter spaces a social media platform for live audio conversations. And that's what you're about to hear dr vic murthy in front of a virtual audience and first question. How exactly does the by administration plan to meet. Its goal of getting seventy percent of adults vaccinated dependence day with the rate of vaccinations blowing after work. Really hard to make sure that they're more more ways acts access the vaccine from extended hours pharmacies. You getting into doctor's offices free ryan lived in childcare. Well made i'm optimistic. That will make the seventy percent. But it's not gonna be easy and take all of us. Can we get a voucher for that. The free rides does that. Were as pretty cool. You get free rights. Three rides free joint free drink. Vacs me all day long baby. I can live like this so they asked him a few questions. Here question number two clip number two with question. The question you've talked about the idea of the issues being access as a problem right then. There's also of confidence people who basically say look. This fact was developed too fast. And i've got my reservation. So i'm gonna wait. That's not uncommon thing to hear the question three buckets of reasons why people are not getting vaccinated that that we're really focused on one. His ancestors we spoke about and for many people time off from work getting a ride to get a vaccine these raw important logistical barriers. That they need help overcoming the second bucket. though has to do with mobilization. We know that there are a number of people who aren't sure. If they still need the vaccine they see cases coming down or they think bond down and held the at low risk were really needs to get vaccinated by them are they. Wrong knows was a question yes it is important to get back in going to wind just a second but the third bucket actually has to do with these. You brought up which is information me. Know that about two thirds of people who are not back so right now. I either believe some of the economy health myths. That are out there or think they might be true. They're not sure. And some of those missing root for example. A number one that. You don't need to get the kobe vaccine if you've already had covid. Oh okay yeah this is. This is the clip that i had this What comes next i think. Wow wow doctors now coming out of the woodwork. i don't have. I didn't take any of these newest clips coming out out of the woodwork from health from Medical schools and everywhere. Because this is bullshit first of all it would this guy. He doesn't answer the question about the person who would. She initiates the person who says well. I don't know it seems like they rushed. The vaccine is a weird technology. I don't wanna take it. I'm not going to take a chance. he never says anything about that. So i guess that's still value can be that way but if you think that just because you had it you're saying it's your immune you couldn't be more wrong here. We go and some of those missing for example a number one that you don't need to get the. Kobe backseat if you've already nassar's who've actually absolutely do because the immunity that you get from. Natural infection is not nearly as robust especially against the as immunity and you get from the vaccine. Wow what a liar does not science. She should have as a as a reporter for npr said to him. What documentation do you have for this assertion. Just lying he is. This is our surgeon. General appointed by joe biden bald face. Lying yeah one. There's a lot of that going on. By the way. Is this quite a bit of lying everywhere. That's disappointing there. You go science clip for k. Law but in a way. We know what the myths are. I think what we don't know what's the script. You're giving to providers to count rhythm. What's the script baby. Yeah they need a script because what you guys have right now is like a regional problem right. You have a lot of southern states where there are less than forty percent of people vaxjo just say republicans donated mississippi. That number is three. Are we looking at a political problem. A red state problem versus. I ever learned in the last many months. Is that the key to getting people. Vaccinated is for them to hear from people they trust and we're big diverse country and the people we listen to aren't always the same and that's one of the reasons were he'd been working so closely with faith leaders with world clinics and rural hospitals teachers and educators or doctors and nurses That's really key to ensuring that we lift vaccination rates in all parts of the country. Well to be fair. He has a quota seventy million and. I'm sure someone said bro. It's going to be your head to your job. You gotta get it done. Their data element probably is play. But there's no debts element has absolutely nothing to do with the next last lie that i have here could which is just another thing that just deplorable. This guy. this guy really makes you lose faith in the government i think. Maybe that's the idea. They want us to hate our own government. But let's play clip five the surgeon general's gonna take one or two questions from that batch now. Hi my name's christine stern. Forty-seven of pessoa robles california last week. Our public school board announced masks were not required for grades k. Through second ages four eight that being only kids twelve and up to be vaccinated. I feel like younger. Children are sitting up. What is the real risk of on this age group in school. Without a master can transmit the virus. I look at the data young to mike keizer. Four and three and they don't have a vaccine available to them Kids under twelve right now. We do have to take steps to be cautious. Will we seen as it in schools. Where masking thing is actually implemented. We've seen you're able to actually keep infection rates quite low. And so that's what we've gotta do. I think removing the requirement for masks of for children were were expecting to go to school. Ming both proximity other children when they don't have a vaccine available than it's consistent with everything that we learned from a medical perspective about covid nineteen. That's the opposite of everything we learned. Oh my well. I'm glad we're around man need to well. Let's talk to some of the globalist about vaccinating their show. I'll tell you what before we do that. Can we just play one more clip. Which is of course to counter clip to this. And you have to ask yourself. Why is this happening. And what are these. Nurses know that window in your neck of the woods taxes. Maybe we don't the houston nurture nurses. That went out on strike. And they're just not going to take the job this cove at houston. Nurses spend it for two weeks without pay and then faced termination but jennifer bridges the nurse. She says she's willing to take it all the way to the supreme court and by the looks of it today they have a number of folks backing them up. We support their right to choose. And we're not gonna put up with it. We're going to fight back. Group of people gathered outside baytown methodist monday night supporting several dozen employees who refuse to take the mandatory kobe. Nineteen shot by june seventeenth because it doesn't have full fda approval we should be allowed to and decisions. Jennifer bridges is a registered nurse. Who i spoke out created a petition and now spearheading a lawsuit against the hospital. Just under two hundred employees have signed on to sue as well several other employees also standing their ground. I'm not willing to risk my life to save my job. But i do love what i do. I love houston methodist. And it's unfortunate that they're willing to let us go over something like this instead of giving us more time houston methodist has also stood firm when it comes to it's mandatory policy. Part of their latest statement says that almost one hundred percent of his twenty six thousand employees have complied. Also saying we have faith that our employees will continue putting our patients. I it is unfortunate that today's milestone of houston methodist becoming the safest hospital system in the country is being overshadowed by a few disgruntled employees off. Now i'm very proud of these texas nurses very last time too good now i would like to mention point out one thing that came up in the early in that report which is the catchphrase which the democrats and liberals and progressive as you have used for the last twenty years right to choose yes exactly and it's so ironic that they're the ones that demand you get the job you need to shut up because at science i know i know i hope we should. We should be supporting him. I don't know how are they picketing clip picking like send him some pizzas. Go hang out. Something's not that far a couple of hours that we have to support people like this. I think that this is an important tipping point. When you get a two hundred professionals it may be more. Maybe two thousand and for all we know When you get that it's like people pay attention to it and it's on the news so before i go to the globalist a couple points of newest by the way it's on the local news that that gagliano you're right of course it well. That's not true. Because i thought i had a network flip we see. Yes i got that from the houston local station. Here's abc. america. This morning in houston are pro testing their hospitals requirement. That could vaccinated. The nurses have filed a lawsuit against methodist hospital and could be fired for resisting the shots into the we don't stop this now. In december of change everybody's just going to topple created domino effects. Everybody pressing nation is going to be forced to get things into their body. They don't wind and that's not right. That's a pretty good clip for for network and show like day. Clip is good. All right a couple of things that you should know Both the fda end gavi which is the gates vaccine alliance have posted a very important papers why you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent cove nineteen even though that is exactly what is saving india. Oh yeah here's the fda why you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent covert and right there on the front. They got a nurse with a horse implying that it's horse medication. All horse wermer what you need to know. Let me see. I think it was ivermectin. Products for animals are different from ivermectin products for people. Don't take horse drugs people. That's what they're saying. And then gabby which is i mean. They are a vaccine alliance that this is what they do is promote vaccination initiative. It's called alliance. it's gabby the vaccine alliance. That's what it's called. It's not an initiative they that gavin's did forget gates vaccine initiative the vaccine alliance with these guys they buy and sell their in the in the business of trading leading the vaccine brokers. Yes it's a big part of what they do. Oh yeah oh yeah now. Here's their post little brother. Ivermectin wyatt potential. Kovic treatment isn't recommended for use. The anti drug was thought to be a potential treatment for covid nineteen but there isn't sufficient evidence to recommend its use despite widespread support online website. That has hundreds of papers on this showing that its effective. I know now there's one other thing and this this is kind of reminiscent of the sixties. From what i know we had missiles ballistic missiles and anti everything was a missile anti zia nuke anti new all these different things. Now we have anti crisper proteins which are naturally occurring and a few take the anti crisper christopher's the gene editing tool that that That the mri is built with a software programming tool so from the research. That is now coming out. You can take anti crisper proteins that have to be injected and that's stops gene editing. So we can now take. I'd like to talk to the woman who invented crisper about this being even possible. This is from the chemical and engineering news website. So it's it's kind of looks like it has a Some credibility to it. But do you know her. Do you know the lady who invented crisper. I know name. i don't know her. I never encountered her. But she's she's brown in about she does give interviews yeah. Let's look at the globalist because we had the g seven Eating and biden's Over in europe and so of course we had some chills come out of the woodwork in the uk specifically since the event was in london here is former prime minister and chancellor of the the guy who sold who broke the bank of england. Here is gordon brown so when it comes to vaccines and people realize the benefit for the whole world but particularly also the benefit to britain people actually seventy nine percent. Want us to pay our fair share. So i think you've got to look at these overseas aid cuts and think if you're pulling away the vaccine or the injection needle okay. Maybe i should wait context. Yes i'm gonna ask because immediately talking about one thing and then somehow associated with getting vaccinated and let me give you some context. This is About sharing the vaccine with the world. This is joe. Biden's eighty million vaccine with 'cause we got too much got to get rid of it and so we don't take a bath. The shit's expiring. It's literally expiry. Gotta get rid of. Its like bad. Buttermilk got so much time bad bad. But i think i had a clip time is running out for a big batch of astra zeneca vaccines in ontario forty. That was i thought. We had one from america who we go. Meanwhile millions of vaccine doses are set to expire this month because of falling demand across the country sent him to africa. We do our best one of the things we do. It's a very common pro- Process america's use we dump are expiring goods. Actually old drugs and everything else. We sent him to africa. So again gordon brown talking about the the globalist and this is on the agenda. Besides the the fifteen percent floor for corporate tax global we need to share the vaccines. We can't have disparity we need to get the whole world vaccinate. This is really bill. Gates's job to say this but since he's temporarily indisposed The elites themselves come out so when it comes to vaccines and people realize the benefit for the whole world but particularly also the benefit to britain. People actually seventy nine percent. I want us to pay a fair share. So i think you've got to look at these overseas aid cuts and think if you're pulling away the vaccine or the injection needle from children and adults who need vaccinated and putting their lives at risk then. That's not a good thing and there is not public support for that. On friday at the g seven we will decide effectively who lives and who dies. Who is to be back and is therefore safe and who is not to be vaccinated under for is at risk. Do you think he gets hard when he says that. Shit i really should be. I can see a revolution took place in the past any hating people like this. And when you what what arrogance. We effectively determine whether whether people never when they die. That's just so you know. I have that power not powerful that again of that guy. Where do you go anyway. Lost back into iraq. Yeah here's the question about vaccinating his children from this reporter but see if he answers or kind of dances around it high footing about vaccinations for kids in the uk. I can't remember how old your children are. Now they're always toddlers. When i think about them but they are you. Happy for them to have their vaccination. Yes of course. The teenagers and if the medical advice is that the teenagers and young children have got to be vaccinated. Then we should do. So but i do say there is enough potential for producing vaccine around the world. So you don't have to make a choice between vaccinated and the twelve year old and vaccinating and nurses and health workers and other countries. We've got to be able to do both. And that's the importance of having a plan and i've set out a plan. Norway south africa has put this plan forward as well at the g seven can make sure that everybody is vaccinated by making a decision on friday. Not not just hoping through those sharing but funding it to make sure it actually happens. And i don't think there's a family in this country who will say that Children and adults in other countries. Who need it should not have vaccines heartstrings. He didn't really say he's gonna vaccinate his kids. Just go of course. Yep shift And tony blair is the other. And he's the massive globalist He has the tony blair institute for global change and earlier this week. the tb. I f g. C tony into global change released a whitepaper white paper less risk more freedom regarding the reduction of restrictions for the vaccinated and reopening travel and before we listened to tony blair. I'd like to tell you who the partners are of The blair institute for global change I will just pick a few out the bill and melinda gates foundation the microsoft philanthropies and the the lawrence ellison foundation i e oracle and. Then we'll throw in the rockefellers and a couple other things. Towed feels to me like this technology partners in here which would be Microsoft and oracle. There well represented. And let's have tony blair tell us exactly About this important paper that he has now released mr blair. You've been advising ministers in public and in private looking at all the data you can see. We're going to open up the twenty first of june. I think it's uncertain at the moment. And the paper we're putting out today is is saying we should really distinguish between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. So both here at home if we if we do have to adjust some of the freedoms because of the just your freedoms. That's my favorite your freedoms at home if we if we do have to adjust some of the freedoms because of the rising pressure from new variants that it's important at least to ensure that those people who are vaccinated have the maximum freedom. They can. I think that could also be done for travel as well. Is it acceptable to turn down vaccine. Do you think unless you've got a good medical reason. My view very clearly is no. And i think that's why to give people a real incentive to get vaccinated because if you are vaccinated. The evidence is absolutely clear. It reduces the risk of transmission and it reduces the risk of hospitalization or death. So would you make mandatory and you can make the mandatory. But i think this is what we're suggesting. Today making it clear that for example if you are vaccinated if you're vaccinated much easier to come in and out of the country and indeed round the world. I think you will find that country start to distinguish between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated so in europe for example they're going to allow you to travel freely within europe if you're double vaccinated the trouble is this does create us not a two-tier society between the vaccinated and unvaccinated looking at own paper says if you haven't been vaccinated you won't be able to go to nightclubs and theaters and big sporting events and many other places so you will be discriminated against it but i think the word describes god now he he he addresses the actual term discrimination says it's gone between the vaccinated and unvaccinated looking at your own paper says if you haven't been vaccinated you won't be able to go to nightclubs and theaters and big sporting events in many other places so you will be destroyed against it brightened. The word discriminations a very loaded meeting in the in the english language now but really when it comes to risk. It's all about discrimination. Denise vaccinate elegantly. People i is there more risk and the reason why we we ensure that people are vaccinated is because then reduces the risk of transmission. Not merely of you getting ill yourself. But if you passing on the disease so i think since everybody's going to be able to get the vaccination other than those who for medical reasons conned then i think it really is important that people get encouraged to get vaccinated and we also make suggestions as to how we can make sure you get proper proof of vaccination we naturally. Nhs ex people done a good job in the nhl app but we to make data interoperable with other systems so that you can use this vaccination out the world. That's what it's about. I don't think but yeah. Of course. not but the thing is because there's still the gotcha. Here's the clip on the e kovic passports and listen carefully because it's something you identified early on is right in their clear paean. Union assigned often a new coronavirus travel certificate aimed at opening up the twenty seven nation blocked for summer travel currently traveling across the eu was difficult for taurus airlines and authorities because of differing regulations but beginning july first eu nations will have to recognize the vaccine certificate which can take paper or digital form. The free passes will certify persons have been vaccinated against the virus recently tested negative or recovered from the disease but they're adding twists indeed. All of these vaccine freedom. Passports will also work. You have proof of a negative test. What they're doing now is they're tightening the timeframe it has to be within forty eight hours was within seventy two hours so now people traveling by car for instance you know. They may have to get tested multiple times depending on how long their journey or even if you're transferring from one flight to the other so they're gonna keep squeezing that but they will leave it. Open the leave it open. But tony blair. I think he's serious. He really wants a global a global system which i don't think gazer fascist prick and we've known that for years but the testing company so now in the uk. If you open up the newspaper you'll see they have packages you can buy testing packages You get one of your house or you know it's all set up but expensive like one hundred hundred and twenty five pounds. So they're trying to you know now he's got the The testing companies. Abbott in those guys. They're coming in and coming up with all kinds of new way below balling soon. Of course of course it is as long as we can keep selling. Something doesn't matter to them. So that's on the horizon now back to the variance the variance. Everything is about a variant this variant that. But it's not just about covid. Good afternoon everyone today. The fbi successfully sees criminal proceeds from bitcoin. Wallet that dark side. Ransomware actors used to collect a cyber ransom payment from a victim since last year. We've been pursuing an investigation into dark side. A russia base cybercrime group. The dark side ransomware variant is one of than variants that the fbi is currently investigating. Sorry about the one channel only so now all of a sudden they using variants for ransomware. Isn't that interesting. I've heard about podcasting. Two point oh variant. It's very contagious. And what does it remind point one. And what does it remind you of when you hear. Variants of those things is just trigger is a trigger word because our preparedness for potential cyber pandemic the potential cyber pandemic is. What here we go. This is this is exactly what they want you. You my thinking on this this. This joker The pr guy for the world economic forum created. It is that he doesn't even know. This reminds me of the old practical jar of april fools. Gay did about Drunk driving on the information superhighway. I don't know that he even understands what he's trying to say. He is so dumb. Oh of course. But i think what he's isn't. He's an old marketing guy. I think he's good at that. He understands these terms and he's in the position where he can say okay. We're gonna call this pandemic and we'll go from the pandemic to these cyber pandemic and we know that the ransom wears already in place. It's in every single system we've had too many hacks the whole everything is open. It's just sitting there waiting to go for the right moment. They could do them all in domino's they could do it You know bit by bit. Of course you wanna hit the main points. You wanna get infrastructure for power because texas stupid. We need to have a national grid need to get the meat because meat is bad anyway. I i had this stop again. Reiterate the idea of a net instead of just his local dumped texas. Getting hit hard by the We wanna have a national grid fish so the whole country goes down at once. That would be part of the plan. Yeah this logic is this. Why do people promote the idea of a giant national grid. I would say the main reason is because they have no idea what they're talking about their stupid and i'm going to take you through a few quick very short clips of cbs Sixty minutes talking to the talking to here. mike crispin. Maybe the intros tells us who he is. And this is About ransomware and there's so much wrong. In this the fbi's mike christmas says cyber-crooks governments and hospitals are likely to pay because they can't afford not to until a promotion. Chris was in charge of the fbi until the promotion boy. This is a good. I saw this and i was. I didn't clip. I digested props to the clip custodian. He's the guy that sits and watches this crap all day. You're waiting for the day that somebody says we have the nine one. One system held hostage in a major city and winning ten million dollars today. I hope that day never comes. But i think we should prepare for that possibility. I burp pandemic. Everybody cyber pandemic. Let's get let's remind you it's pandemic but the joke of this. One particular commentary is nine. One one goes down all around the country time half the time it does reward offer. Somebody's really careless. Somebody gets blowed up because there was no Nobody ever showed up at the address right. I mean come on. This is not a good example in austin. They don't even answer. They've as part of the defunding. They took the nine one one system away from the police. Department is now within the city government. And it's you know it's not it's not quite up to snuff yet now. Back to the pandemic pandemic be very frayed cyber pandemic. let's remind you trigger words. I'm aware of one ransomware. Orient that affected all fifty states. That had some thirty million dollars in losses and over six million dollars in ransom payments I would tell you that. The losses are very significant and easily approach. One hundred million dollars or more just in the united states that ransomware variant. He's very is. Okay stop a second now. first. Of all i mean this now. I'm getting annoyed that sent you pointed this out is gonna create amongst the audience myself included This idea that developer of dur variant is just a code word for dig it people jacked up yeah The idea of a ransomware variant is like a word processing very ransomware as a category of software. Yeah it no. Variance can have different. Coding verge is different versions. You never versions be version that version so so. This is a misuse of the word from the get go and then it should end steve or pelley. I got kelly. Scott scott pelley. Steve scott pelley from now on steve pelly believes now. Steve steve kelley should be ashamed of himself for being such a lousy journalist to let this happen because it's a category of software. It's not simply it's not a software you know it's just unbelievable to me that these this is this is the best we can do at. Cbs under top news. Show sixty minutes remember. This is the fbi themselves who are using this word. So they're the ones probably the propagated it. Maybe we'll go back to avoid on over dollars more. Just stop again if it was the fbi. Propagate it should be steve. Kelly's job to call him out on it. Not go okay whatever. What do you think he has a podcast her. He's a professional journalist. That's not how it works johnson. How journalism works okay. I'll shut up. I would tell you that. The losses are very significant and approach one hundred million dollars or more just in the united states. Now ransomware variant. He's talking about is the one that held handcock hospital hostage. It's called samson. After one of its file. Maine's experts told steve long sam. Sam is unbreakable. There was nothing that we could do to unlock. Those files are only choice was to wipe the system and hope that we had backups or to purchase the decryption keys to pay the rent indeed. That is exactly what that means but sam. Sam had infected the hospitals back-up files. The fbi advised long not to pay but after two days after his staff filled out thousands of pieces of paper. He paid the ransom. The crooks demanded digital money known as bitcoin. Ransomware is possible only because bitcoin is so difficult to trace. Stop right there. We says the one thing that Our producers need to understand many of them do. Bitcoin is in fact completely easy to trace. The whole point of bitcoin is that all that information is out there and available so it. And if you read the fbi the affidavit that was actually the warrant that The filing for the warrant may say. Hey you know like we were in there. We were there with the company made so of course the fbi was in on it. That's already suspicious. Point number one and we could track that payment and then a little piece of that about twenty twenty two. Bitcoin went to one wall. And then seventy three went to Went to a custodial wallet which is likely since it was in san francisco likely coin base or one of these other companies and for one. And if you're that stupid as a bitcoin and you put it on exchange. You've gotta know that. Of course the fbi can just get those keys in fact. The warrants says the private keys for that bitcoin wallet that address our in our possession. Of course they had that so you really have to think. Is this even more like a six week cycle in this case in. I'm and so now that we know that j j. b s paid eleven million dollars ransom in bitcoin. Let's see if the f. f. b. is able to get that as well. I suspect they might Because the way they're doing it as i mean if i were if six week cycle inside job f. b. i. Doing this for relevance which by the way kind of goes against the narrative I'd set it up that way. Pay us and then we pay the hackers who actually do all the you know the whatever the russian based guys give them their big and get the rest and look like heroes all. We can do it all but to say that. It's so hard or this. It's so good for anonymity. No the opposite is true but okay. That's the message. Tom pace runs net rice a cybersecurity firm based in austin texas. So this isn't a crook sitting in front of a desktop breaking a sweat trying to break into somebody system. this is something they unleash. That's automated and they sit back and drink coffee until they get the results that certainly appears to be the roll out the exception tears making the coffee may be the hard part. Showed us a website that offers ransomware for rent an attacker can use one of many illicit products here and the website takes a cut. Ransom is pale and something else. That's interesting here. Is they actually provide you with basically a room where you can ask questions to the people who maintain this architecture for you. Frequently asked questions for criminals exactly so. Tom pace logged onto the site and used it to encrypt a network of his own. So all of the files that are on this system have now been successfully encrypted so this took you just slightly over five minutes and you didn't write a single line of code correct off the shelf off the shelf cyber pandemic everybody. It's coming. it's coming out. I think he passed up a good one okay. He says frequently asked questions for criminals. He could have said facts for hacks new. Are you writing that down right down your window. I'd like it. Thanks for hack. Bax for hacks. I like that a lot something we got very little coverage for the vast -ness of the of what this was. I just have to play thirty four seconds because it may be related when it comes to. Let's just say the fbi. This wasn't a six week cycle. Were doing it ourselves. How would they come across some information about a password to an account that held a private key. Well this little story and worldwide high texting led by the fbi and involving new zealand. Police a huge blow to criminals by here and across the globe operation trojan shield included big international players. America's fbi the da or drug enforcement agency. Europol the us crime-fighting agency australian and new zealand police and other partners more than a dozen countries and one of the world's biggest organized crime operations underworld figures and crime gangs. Tricked into communicating using an encrypted app developed by the fbi. This included planning executions drug smuggling and money laundering. Gotta love it. It was those phones that they were. So how dumb are these criminals that whole that whole Ransomware for lease website could be f. b. I could be a giant honeypot remember. He can hire the talent to do it cyber pandemic. i'm just saying if if that was the mission. Then they're doing things right as listening to another quick Disinformation clip from abc. A new task force at the justice department appears to have scored a rare win against ransomware. Hackers i really don't know who this is but i'm really oh it's i i. I joke cheat talks like this. When he's doing his voice over the department says it's now recovered. Most of the ransom paid to hackers who disrupted the nation's largest gas pipeline last month today we deprived a cyber criminal enterprise of the object of their activity their financial proceeds and funding russia based hackers down the colonial pipeline which supplies forty five percent of all fuel to the east coast to regain control of their systems. Colonial paid more than four million dollars in bitcoin on monday. The justice department said it sees a sixty three point seven bitcoins which is the equivalent of two point three million dollars more than half the ransom payment so that that's just pointing this out because bitcoin went down since Since it was paid. So that's why it's less than the original payment but they they make mention of that more than half the ransom payment. Bitcoin was designed to be. Let's put it put it easily. It's untraceable to designed to be untruthful. Oh you can read the white paper that is a lie. It was not designed to be untraceable. The opposite i think this is your next Your next pet Never ending pet peeve very similar to the one where will my job is to protect the american public. My top job. I took an oath to protect my. I figured that bitcoin was designed not to be traceable blatant lie cryptocurrency is favored by cybercriminals because it allows for direct online payments regardless of location through but in this case. Fbi agents obtained the private key or password for the cyber. Privacy is not a. It's not a password or password for the cybercriminals crypto-currency wallet. This is a first as far as i know how they did it. I think is I think keeping very close to the chest so to speak. Yeah well we know they have to possible. Maybe many more could have been part of that massive sting operation which we have not. We don't know who got arrested. We just have some top line stein getting more. You play this. You know because. I heard this show and i've heard all this. There's nothing new in these in these clips. What's new is the introduction of the concept that this all is a giant. Fbi scam brought the six week cycle of. We'll maybe more than that. Maybe everything we're witnessing here because of the -ccomplish so much it lames russia and i wonder whether biden's read in if he was i wonder if he remembered being read in so he's going to go confront putin about this putin's going to. I don't know what putin is going to do. But this is gonna be too funny too if you wish you were a fly on the wall but and could speak russian. This is really now. I'm getting very suspicious about all of this including the entire ransomware 'cause rancid where it was like things some time back and most of the anti viral and anti mel where software systems will stop it. If there's something even remotely looks like it's very hard. I don't know of anybody who's gotten now. All of a sudden is cropping up all over the place with this very elaborate scheme and this website which now they've discovered which has the resume for lease and they're using the word variant. This is very suspicious. All around in talking to several dude named ben who don't sleep well at night thinking about these things individuals you right. That's most of the saw computers themselves. they could be pretty well protected even. It environment is when you have a windows network exchange server once you get into the windows domain and someone has an admin account. It's all over. You can get anywhere and and and again the the concept is there in there in everywhere all they need to do is just push. Buttons just pushed buttons. Whatever you want and here is some of the desired result. We so remember when this first happened. It's about infrastructure. It's about stupid. Texans we need a global grid It's about being untraceable. Only for cybercriminals and for Illicit activity and it's about warming and russia. And you through that in and so it's really four pieces. It's a beautiful beautiful system and let's talk to you and and and it uses the word variant to make sure your triggered about dacoven vaccine. That is the connector and the cyber pandemic remember. it's it's been they've been saying this cyber pandemic. None of this was happening until long after klaus recorded that video. Deers are energy secretary. Do you think that adversaries of the united states have the capability right now to shut down the power grid. Yeah they do. I mean. I think that there are very malign actors who are when i heard maligned to me. That's almost like another infectious type thing. Like you have malignant tumor maligned or am i. Am i reading too much into it now. Yeah you're probably reading too much into. But i i can see it. I guess you can see you being triggered they do. I mean i think that there are very malign actors who are trying even as we speak there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally in the meat plant for example we. It's happening all the time. And this is why the private sector. I was just gonna say do you remember was about twenty five years ago. There was this product you could buy new the people that made it there. It's a little thing it was little add on. It would show you all the attacks that we're going after your system called the only thing that comes to mind is autozone. But that's not the name of this If somebody in the in the troll room knows what. I'm talking about but it's a little system you could buy your showed that longer being zone alarm zone alarm Thank you troll. It was kind. It was just bang. Bang bang you hundreds of times in our. you're there. Some system was random tries to penetrate outer. This is not new but that it sounds good. Sounds this woman makes a satellite some new thing russia based and this this has been going on with the network for forever forever young. Tcp he was invented okay. It's stay tuned. Wrap this up pretty soon. Because i'm gonna start busting things throwing the monitor early affiliates. Ladies and gentlemen civilians gonna break mike we. It's happening all the time and this private sector and the public sector have to work together and this is what the president is doing. He's working with our allies. He's working with countries around the world because other countries even russia they don't wanna see their sectors attacked by malign activities by rogue non-state actors not to mention state actors so working with other countries were private sector working inside of our own government. The president has issued these executive orders to make sure that our own house is in order making sure that citizens are able to protect themselves. Mother who's eighty six years old got two weeks ago. Got a cyber in a not a ransomware but was was hacked. My grandmother was hacked. They hacked grandmother was axed ransomware. But you know this roof. She was a she was a hackney. I know exactly what happened. He got an email. That said i saw what you do. I access your computer camera. I have the video unless you send me one bitcoin. I'm going to show all your nasty video okay. So that is infrastructure now. Let's go we've had we have this. The pandemic link with variant. We have russia we have The infrastructure let's go to global warming and all of a sudden out of the woodwork. Ladies gentlemen dare. She is elizabeth. Warren is back. It's about. We've talked a lot today about the dangers. That crypto currencies posed our economy. We talked about the ripoffs the instability the extent to which they used to help criminals cyber attacks like the attack on colonial pipeline and jbs. But there's another piece to adverse environmental impacts of the cuting activity used to mit many of these digital currencies in the first place. Bitcoin consumes more energy than entire country. And it is projected to consume as much energy as all the data centers in the whole world this year. Just let that sink in yeah does. Where's the proof of this. Oh in fact. The proof is quite the opposite. Bitcoin consumes one tenth of one percent of the global energy which is like one hundred and forty. Just come from. Where's this myth. Come from this comes from elon. Musk when he when he was trying to get everyone to bail out this yes or no no. He's virtuous signaling. It's by lying. Yes and this comes back chew signaling by lying and this comes back to the. Es the environmental sustainability goals which will be your carbon tax metric. That's coming and then you know so then. Ilan s started a with a micro strategies guy. Oh we're going to. We're a tag. Bitcoin was made with hydropower renewables or with dirty coal. There's very little energy powering bitcoin anymore. Most of the chinese stuff is hydro and it hasn't been banned. It's moved to. They're not allowed to use coal in texas crazy industry with people going with containers to the gas fields using the methane gas which actually reduces the carbon emission. But it doesn't matter these these metrics these lies are out there and you will hear them forever. It is projected to consume as much energy as all the data centers in the whole world. This year one bitcoin transaction a single purchase sale or transfer. My favorite is the same amount of electricity as the typical household uses in more than a month. Yeah okay cheerless so yeah. This is the stupidity of a us. Senator senior senior senior. Us senator in the united states of america one of our legend one of the leaders of this country. Well she has a mission though she's just blathering bullcrap. And well she did this with with experts. It was a ten. I got ten minute video for asking experts. The experts were quite annoyed by her questioning as well but they were answering her truthfully but this is not the experts talking. This is her metrics in a month. So yeah you say that again. Yup single bitcoin transaction. That's one purchase or one sale or one transplant. Pizza uses the same amount of electricity as the typical us household using a sense three days. It's a lie. It's a complete what she's referring to is the metric for mining. Bitcoin one single coin for each block. That's not a single transaction. Doesn't matter i mean we could. We could see the enough bitcoin. Potty sides at toyota. It is nonsense that makes no sense. She's yet gac yak in about to what end is she's just scheme coins. Here it is. I'm gonna give it to you the second clip besides being pulling out the this. She's just using this as a crutch for her miss mission. You recall at the beginning of cova that first democrat bill which had every all the social justice warrior crap in their member that was like two trillion dollars and and it got shot down and then they had ever did the green new deal. Stuff was in there. You remember that bill. Oh yeah it was. It was a bill with us for infrastructure was the infrastructure pre infrastructure. Whatever was that had nothing to do with what it said it was about correct. It was a it was an omnibus crap bill. One of the main points in their sponsored by bernie sanders elizabeth warren and sandy Cortez akasa cortes was the digital dollar. We need that for the universal basic income. And for all other reasons you know the racist on between digital dollars and countries and you know the federal reserve and the treasury are looking at this course they have to. This is what warren is doing cheese pushing this. And here's how for the research you and your colleagues at mit have done. Is it possible to design a central bank digital currency that does not require minors to perform random number generation puzzles. Yes it is and could you design it so wouldn't consume more energy than middle sized country. Yes you can and have a central bank digital currency that doesn't exacerbate the climate crisis and undermine environmental justice by you could build a central digital currency. Which does not consume vast energy. Yes i'm glad to hear. This look cryptocurrencies. Like bitcoin are terrible for the environment. And that would be true regardless of whether we were getting anything productive out of that energy usage or not the fact that we're not makes it even more scandalous one of the easiest and least disruptive things we can do to address. The climate crisis is crack down on environmentally wasteful crypto currencies. And now is the time to do it. Get yourself your cdc dear central bank digital coin. It's coming and she's full of crap. This woman oh yeah so really pathetic remembering when she was making a big fuss about robocalls hobnob wells that stop thanks to her yasser peeves. It never stopped now. It got worse. I still got i got yesterday. Got like four one of them from i get this marriott hotel one for i keep saying i got i got. The bad purchase from amazon has to be stopped. It was somebody bought something in texas or someplace else. And i was do. I approve it They gotta talk to me about it and walk through the website. They got a couple of other ones. I get is you're not in google's business directory listing. I get that one. I got that one. That's still get a while. I got they took my social security number away. That's my favorite. Yeah that's a good one now. I got of course my car My extended warranty is expired or the warranty or This is your last chance by the way your last chance. Here's the we've been trying to get a hold of you. Here's the one. I really hate because it. It feels like it's really good but every single time i hang up because it's it just feels like a scam. Maybe some of our producers can help me get you to your answer and local number Hello and then. You hear the the gate close and you're waiting as hello. Is this adam than real person. The guy with the heavy voice and yes. Well we're doing a fundraiser. For the police something rather somalia and now this is a tax deductible abo- and you know. I don't know what that is but it's fish is like a scam. I don't like that one. And and i've gone pretty far listening to him like you know 'cause they'd pushing pushing pushing so we'll want you send me some information. Yeah will why. Don't we take your credit card. Now saints i work. I will make it yours an admission. It's not a big deal. I worked in a boiler room. For what ron much doing that scam for which products Fire local fire departments awesome rally. So you can tell me good. Semi legit. They get some money the voyeurism gets most of it and you could just tell them to no. I'm not interested in hang up on him. The way they do at the police department wants which is run to the same operations Was they tried to get you into thinking that. If you don't contribute you're gonna get pull over your house and get a ticket and the cops are gonna hate you It's not now south where it works Just sound know each save given before need weren't happy to do what you used to do with. I hate wales to hate the police. That goes no. Here's the answer No i'm all for defunding. The police and it starts here. You could do that but then you just get on a different enlisted navy carney about something else. Now it's hopeless these things before i close this out with two humorous clips an interesting alert cross my desk from the office of the private sector a liaison information report government institution the office of the private sector even know it existed and i think this is a troll. I think it's hilarious The fbi and this. I have the actual document. So i'll put in the show notes of people can take a look at the. Fbi is washington field office in coordination with the fbi office of private sector and the united states. Postal inspection service developed this l. i. r. liaison information report to inform private sector partners about recently mailed. Extortion threats targeting companies in emerging technology and the pharmaceutical industry. I thought that was interesting. In april twenty twenty one the fbi became aware of a number of extortion threat letters which were sent primarily to senior level executives of publicly traded technology and pharmaceutical companies. The letters provide the recipient with the options to earn their freedom by providing company stock information. This is my favorite or purchase their freedom at the cost of one million dollars in stable coin state. Usd stable coin. This has to be a joke. Dc stable coin is is unclean base. You can only get it on coin base. So it's a completely open open system the fbi can walk right in and find out who you are unless this is a huge troll will hold on or the fbi again daria. Go i and the fbi has the ability to actually have that kind of inside information because it was traditionally the fbi under j edgar hoover became a blackmailing operation. I never ended. So now you're dealing with the black. Mailing operation in stable coin is laughable. You might as well just say pay me. And here's my address. Come and get me. Is my post office box. I feel safe because post office by so i don't. I don't know if that's because. I'm using a post office box. I like the idea. This is all just the f. b. i. t. it fits perfectly anyway. Let's finish this up with some more cyber pandemic Fear and we saw the fast li. Cdn go down again proving my point that we need to decentralize away from all this bullcrap. No agenda show didn't go down. No agenda website. Didn't go down no agenda. Mp threes didn't go down. No agenda social. Didn't go down Why because we're decentralized from most of this stuff and if not then we can make very quick changes if necessary here is the man you wanna talk to you when it comes to internet outages or glitches. Brian seltzer water from cnn. You know he's the guy to go to. It might be largely over now. But what's the damage here. We'll fulfils like this is happening more often. That's because it is happening more often. This was one of the most widespread. Just we've ever seen because it took down everything from hulu. And hbo max to spotify and cnn and the bbc and as you're saying even government websites. This is also notable because it was not restricted to one part of the world this was affecting users in europe in the united states in parts of asia and africa. All of the same time. Essentially what happened is fastly installed a bad software update and it's bad software update then spread and had that ripple effect originally the reason why you have these content delivery networks like fastly that are close physically to people's homes and access points is to speed up. The internet is to make web pages songs and everything play faster on your phone computers but when it goes down it goes down hard. And and that's what we saw earlier today. It's a reminder that there are only a small number of these cloud computing firms that are keeping essentially the entire internet online. That may be. Your internet seltzer water. Not our internet. When i say that i mean the entire consumer. There's lots of redundancies. Lots of different parts of the internet. But we think about these major players whether it's blue or spotify or read it all these big companies. They rely on the same handful of firms so in the words of recode. It's it's both the scale today. And the frequency of these outages that is worrisome. And this did come on the heels of me wishing wishing that television networks. We'll get ransomware wasn't ransomware but at least we had a little a little blip a little feeling of what it would be like to not have any television and finally brian seltzer. Water technology experts no expert introduces a new term to replace the overused glitch. Even though he's an a hole and a horrible journalist you may not even have the title journalist. At least he's trying out beyond everything. You couldn't get done right. Did effective vaccine roll out in the uk and that is something that people just can't afford especially given what's going on right now equivocally. I'm saying i'm sure you notice a little call back again to the pandemic you know. We've got off disrupting the pandemic's disrupting the other now on equivocally. I'd say i'm sure you'd agree. This proves the internet is infrastructure. Not really see nearly as well as it should be right his case. There's no evidence. This was a cyber attack. A case of ransomware. This has just been a company that made with a big dick heard allow me. It makes me nervous. Brian university center update. Yes because because of all the scrambling and so many corners here at cnn. We start trying to figure out. How did we get news onto the website. I'll we shared on social media. You know yet. Newsroom scrambling you had consumer entertainment companies scrambling and government scrambling because greatly scrambling when your website. Suddenly goes down the viewers at home. We have no idea what's going wrong. The act-actually find out. Sometimes you might assume the worst in this case it seems like it was not the worst case scenario but it is a reminder of how vulnerable this infrastructure is vulnerable the infrastructure. It's all in there. Every single piece they want is in there. I like hiccup. That's new instead of saying glitch a hiccup. It was only an hour an hour. So i think it's appropriate to call it a hiccup. Yeah shampoo What will the next one be. I can't wait. We're going to see more. It's going to be super duper fun. Super-duper duper fun stick with super duper super duper super duper fund and with that stupor. I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you. The man who put the sea in cyber pandemic ladies and gentlemen dr john c. d. lathwell l. in the morning to you mr mccurry also in the water and all the data nights out there and we and we like to say in the morning to all the trolls troubles. Raise your hands. Time for a troll cows. They wanted and they scurry away. They scurry away to troll. Count for some reason. I've been removed. Powers somebody somebody give me a a regular networker you now. I don't know what's going on. I mean maybe because i had to Chain networks or something all right. Well if there's no troll count. I can't do account. There's no one hundred and thirty three twenty to thirty three. We're going to count on that. See if that's it now. If you want to also have a troll count go to no agenda. Stream is thursday. I'm sorry i know it's gonna be wrong number more like eighteen fifty five c mo second. Maybe i can do it over here. sixteen seventy five sixteen seventy five. That's no it's low normally eighteen on eighteen year right eight. now we're way off. We're losing our audience this because of the covid the covert Trump say all you doing too much cova. We stopped doing covert and they'd go. Let's go find some listen to tim pool. I know that's what they do No agenda stream dot com. You can check in there. You can Atro- long he can hang out with the hundreds. Sometimes thousands of people listening to all of the live shows do have livestream. No agenda stream dot com. You will not regret checking that out free for all. Enjoy yourself or follow us on our. The non album is federated. The network federated web site social website which is no agenda. Social dot com. He can't register. But because we federate with mastodon and everything else that connects to that the so called fed verse you can indeed. Where's the central location for the federation to take place. There is no central location. Is there some place where the you can ping to make. Sure he can go find the other guys. All you have to do is follow. One person at adam at no agenda social dot com or at johnson before i could no agenda social dot com and the instance that you are on will start to bring in into the federated timeline will start to bring stuff in and you can follow people from other other servers as well you can follow us and then you know so then before you know it stuff just starts flowing over. I know because we have no agenda social dot com. I also have podcast index dot socia. Which really for the development of podcasting two point. Oh and that. Overlap is so seemless. Sometimes i don't know if i'm answering someone on one side of the other and he's really. It's i'm very impressed with how well that works. And we do have a couple other I think gitmo dot life not gitmo life dot com gitmo dot. Life is at least one and atm slaves in the morning. Slave dot com. And we're looking for many many more and then we shall say in the morning to the artists who brought us the art work for episodes thirteen fifty three we titled it allows hamas and we had Hit really like the amazon prime. We'd delivery package That was Expertly done by t. s. n. n. had any Any artwork chosen before. I can't really one of the no agenda. Pabst labels on offer was chosen. He did a nice obey looking at stuff. He's got a good collection of uh he may have had a couple of things picked here and there because he's good he's not. He's not a slouch And he's done a lot. He's done enough pieces where he's there's more than one page of them. There were a lot of different amazon. We'd things we had comedies. Loggerhead was a little too blatant. Just the big big. we'd it makes. It was beautiful. It the prime. We'd it had all the comment i thought. Comic strip bloggers was the first one that got my attention. And i thought he's had a winner there. And then when i saw the bag had more to it had little stickers and stuff it was just a thought out great piece of art and then the competition of course where the bats lot of bats I used one bat for the pre show art and debate. You use the cutest of the bunch and you were entering using it again. There was so cute. Yeah and and you know. I wanna use that for a newsletter. Did you know. I ended up. But i did use another p another piece for the newsletter from the same guy. Works seems to have like a a knack for creating I consider some of the great newsletter artworks. I think i've used his stuff for the last three or four newsletters in a row and i still have my eye on a number of other ones. He's done He did the cow with the mass. That was that was. That was good too easy. Wants to pretty the the cricket with the wine glass. he's got a lot of really good pieces. People should look at his stuff. At least we didn't get any more tonto neo less emissions with the The evolution of man. You can see all of this all of this artwork in any podcasting two point. Oh compatible app. And i would like to point out for those of you. That are very disappointed with apple's most recent upgrade of their podcast app. In fact i just was helping out Dan carlin He always back with his hardcore. History has another series. People very excited and i saw him posting on twitter saying that. Has anyone seen this show up in the apple lot. No it's shit. They broke it. They don't care they want you to just do subscriptions open. Podcasting is no longer their business with an with podcast podcasting point. oh app. The time it takes from published showing up an app is forty seconds that abut. But but but that's with three point. Two million podcasts. What happens when there's thirty million. Podcasts will have maybe take fifty sixty seconds for. I think we can keep it under a minute. We'll do our best. Please try one out today. This all kinds of new features that you don't get on apple or spotify new podcast apps dot com and now let us thank our executive producer associate executive producers who brought it home for us With one of the tease of your time talent and treasure of value for value model and We will thank them right now. He and it does make a difference after after last. Sunday's miserable showing. We did pretty well today with thirteen. This show thirteen fifty. Four hundred tops. The top it officer kilgore trout of the dude's name ban retired woodstock ontario canada. Twelve eleven hundred and twenty dollars and twenty seven cents which is nice and short note. Listen to the horn. Rebel leuser an r. Two d. two karma to the no agenda universe we don't know what that number signifies this one one two zero two seven can't really can't really figure it out. Well thank you very much sir. Kilgore trout of the dude's name. Ben retired india lie thirty three thirty three thirty three or of alizer youth. Dont him remind me to mentioned i give a rundown of i went to the walnut creek meet up. Oh yes i want to hear about that. And i wanna talk about now real briefly. Well yeah there's a lot of hams there. It seemed like the guy running this this at. He's going to win an oakland shortly hand. Heard i heard you had not brought your rig. So i forgot to bring my little wrigley gonna get but he did give me a new high. A high output antenna hungaria it and he Did we're unseat him or somebody at the meet at runs mount diablo repeater which is quite busy. Hit for my house. Because i got a hill behind me that antenna. Maybe the new. Maybe maybe we'll see but This is drawing a lot more hams to meet up and and you can see the differences as more hamm's come in the ladies starts very slowly. You see less pretty obvious. It's a real repellent. I know i know it's like an issue. Amy amy from the verite wine operation was there and they're going to have a meet up a wine country. Meet up 'cause she tells me that because they're winery was mentioned on our show and we did there with brunetti and right she subject turns out to be a bunch of winemakers up in this anoma napa areas. That are no agenda people so they all contacted or so. We're going to have a meet up with some heavy duty winds. I guess up there i. I'll probably go to that because of some particular wine that she may might open that. I have your eye on over there wine. i've never tasted. I feel remiss. Somebody came with a pile of cova. Cards preprinted nice. Oh with numbers or just the numbers but there was a guy. I i guess i messed missed him because he left. Who had a rubber stamp and some blue stickers and things and he could fix the covert card so it looked like a fantastic was there so we have a little illegal activity going on. That was of interesting and then the guy who does these meet apps. He took the old zombie book that they're cdc produced t. Reproduced it in comic book style. Yes and he was giving those. This is dynamite product at the store. Should be selling. Yes he He contacted me. And i gave him a po box. Sending one to me. I'm very excited about. It is a dynamite dynamite product so it was a great meet of for and it was out in walnut creek. There was nobody in the whole town wearing masks. Nobody that's interested to servers bunch of republicans out there. i guess there's there are republicans out there. Well we had a a mini. Very many meet up of source. I did want to mention before we continue. We had dinner Forget which night. It was now two nights ago with new austin resident. David sutcliffe if you remember he is was rory's dead. From the gilmore girls member. We met him at the At the las vegas meet up very famous actor who has turned away. turned his back mo mainly to acting and as moved here in austin and he's figuring is his life out. And i gotta tell you yeah. Handsome man walking around in austin unattached. As far as i know for the ladies. That's good you don't remember who he is you have. No idea never met him. I was an estimate of what we talked about. We named show. You did talk about him anyway. Good to have them in austin. Just we're leaving but also want to thank you for giving me a jar of some Some she works at the pot shop. You got some pot shop chain. That may be something worth investing in. Actually really all right. So let's you. With the thank yous joseph delaney is next on the list and he came in with a thousand dollars and he sent a note in which i have in before me on the email dear john adam day i always envisioned my first donation as being short and sweet. Thank you for everything. But it wasn't meant to be. I apologize in advance for the length. Okay to recent life events fast track by thousand bucks. So i think the the scores fast track i ever donation as such. I feel compelled to quickly report and analyze having learned so much from you both ever since. Two rogan's first appearance. Oh chance for spirits. And joe rogan brogan oregon weeks ago. My wife called me while shopping. Let me know that if injury. Her father has sustained while playing tennis. The injury Ultimate result in him being hospitalized. And when i asked what happened. I was told. He badly injured his achilles out. And then about a day later he developed a blood clot clot which caused severe bruising swelling etcetera in his leg while in the hospital he was as it was sure that the blood count was clot was caused by injury to the achilles and that this was actually common is home now with some shiny new blood. Thinners you'll be taken for one to two years is about a week later asked my wife is doing and she responded by saying better. He was up in about going about his routine. I asked how that was given. He must be hampered by his achilles in this injury when she replied saying that it was actually just a pulled. Calf muscle not an injury to his achilles definitions report was overstated. Father received the covid vaccine within the last month. Or so no connection no connection whatsoever not possible event number two. I was informed an open position. Aligns with my skill set headed from head-hunter. I've worked in this group with in the past before letting me know who the company why she stated stated that they have essentially doubled in size overnight and our planning continued growth. They have front. Incentives are substantial who. You might ask a question mark. Good old moderna. Nice now this number one. I've been playing watching sports for most of my thirty two years. I certainly would not describe a pulled muscle followed by a blood clot as a common occurrence now and as is number two in business school they always reinforce the notion that the most successful entrepreneurs create solutions to problems did not know they needed. Yes history. maderna's doing great. no agenda. Feels like home. Thank you both to each and every producer for making it. 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But i'll look while you read the next extremely long notes from sir rob night of the philanthropic shareholders federation in certain the netherlands. Three thirty three thirty three in the morning in the mortar. Atm john adam. Classic jingle requests fears freedom shut up slave to to the head. You will obey and a portion of house. Selling karma got it. I'm an avid listener to the show and try and we'll try to keep this short. Fail fail no. Agenda provides great value in these dire times dire as i am the only non-vaccinated family member at the moment. Even when i point out that they have nothing to fear because they are vaccinated they still keep droning on that. I should do it for the others. Facts are useless partly because the scientific literature and links from the no agenda show notes an english and they don't bother to spend the effort the other part is because the dutch m five. Am and government propaganda. Have done a great job in managing the slaves here in gitmo lowlands. I have to face it. I've become a experiencing more and more social pressure to get the job. Luckily the no agenda show has offered me coping strategies like others need more and more urgently than i do. I can wait this often results in getting nods of approval except from family members. A little bit of boots on the ground from getting old all on board of dutch trains. The masks are mandatory. Except when you're eating so nearly half. The travelers are wearing their mask as a chin diaper with some beverage or snack in front of them. Yes she works so well. The conductor on the train accept this even when the bottles are empty same on the platforms and station. Buildings in supermarkets masks are mandatory as well. We recently started doing a grocery shopping. without masks. To our surprise we have received. No foul looks from other shoppers. Yes this is the big revelation you'll find he most places also staff members either failed to see or just. Don't care half a year ago. People nearly fainted when i one step into the supermarket and it simply forgotten to put on that muzzle. Things seem to be changing. Thanks for your work. Thanks to all philip producers john. Stay safe hitler sir rob night of the philanthropic shareholders federation leiden the netherlands and yep. That's that's the message when you just go ahead and do it these days. No one's gonna stop you and that seems to be true worldwide the same world. You will obey you. will obey. Got karma a stage name for a stripper. Catch up here. She is salty. Ketchup and manchester. New hampshire in new hampshire. Love three three three salty. Ketchup sell ketchup. Thank you for making a very unfunny time in our lives more bearable with your wit and factual commentary. Could i get some are two. D- two karma with trump dumps and john kelly saying donate. God bless all celtic ketchup. In the match. Vegas hampshire new hampshire. I guess they put some casinos in their mansion. Vegas nice all right. You go first Donate donate they call him. Dumps big massive dumped. You've got karma donate tammy alter from naples. Florida three thirty three. Thank you for your courage. She says i'm writing you from the beloved free state of florida. Please accept this. Donation is william embarrassed to say is my first donation. Since i started listening during the twenty six print dent presidential election. Please do enough. It was my college age daughter. Mary who hit me in the mouth and for this she deserves all of the goat karma in the world. I couldn't believe it when she mentioned adam curry a blast from my eighties past. But now i must admit. I don't know which if you love more attics we pumped up and john brings me back to reality. We are in fact the perfect husband together. Any who thank you for keeping miami little small. I would like to ask for jobs. Calmer for my son. Ethan and can. I have a study obama stuttering ifs own second Yes stuttering ifs. a don't eat me. Boj i`dn fao chee wees. I gotta fauci we. He's here somewhere and a you might die. And of course the the karma so i can do all of these i if if we if we fall four died in your skin you might not. You've got karma amy. Ecm is next on the list from healdsburg. She's the the winery girl who we got into. A discussion about percentages of what grape is and. What wine in. Boorda i feel bad for her is is she now is she. Is she dri out. Say right now at this moment in time she drinks more high end wines than anyone i know but she no more than you she knows would be at least as much. And maybe more some instances very nice okay. Yeah she's a she's depends on. I mean i have to go back and look in in j anson's book on board o to get some here to throw back at her but Let me know how that how that turns out but fun. Nothing but fun very exciting so she wrote a note. It john and adam Jingles gitmo nation national anthem dedicated to jeff and david for organizing one. Hell of a meet up to. She came down from healdsburg to walnut creek. Which is something of a long haul. Only no agenda producers can advertise supper shedding zombie apocalypse. Proper meet up and experience a turn out of twenty five plus people. Jeff and david let their creative flags fly headshots of john. And adam madore. Oh yes every seat had popsicle stick a take home every. Yeah i signed a few nice. I saw signing rigs battery packs and stuff. Yes somebody will have me do that. So that became a thing what used to be would used to be back in the mtv days. Hey could you sign my bra. Could you sign my chest now now signing a battery packs okay. They didn't want the battery sign. They wanted to radio site. Got got it because i said signed the battery. No no no no good good man know. It's got to be full on the full deal. Anyway claiming he sees for no agenda producer. There was even a zombie raffle. John can you elaborate. Did my middle. 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And if you'd like to learn about some of these sustaining donations or any other supports of the show. Go to iraq dot org slash and once again our humble thanks for all of you producing episode thirteen fifty four formula is this. We go out john. Let's see medley. Somebody sent in medleys not quite the same as a super cut. What what is the difference between a met a medley as musical and a super cut is out of the way i see it a medley as less Hectic this is the stay safe medley one of the Think as an msnbc host and this is what she does as as a matter of course and again. I'm reminded of people reminding people that. Think of pile. Hitler when you hear this medley the will thank you so much for being here and please. Stay safe congressman. Adam schiff. Thank you so much for being here tonight and please stay safe. Colorado secretary of state jennifer as well. Thank you so much for being here tonight. Please stay safe. Nbc news correspondent priscilla thompson. Thank you so much for being here tonight and please stay safe lemur. Thank you so much for your time tonight. Please stay safe timothy. O'brien thank you so much for being here tonight. Please stay safe. State representative jeremy gray. I wanna thank you for your time tonight and please stay safe. Edibles are getting to you. We played this to shows ago. I think i don't remember. That's what i'm saying. I didn't i couldn't remember either. But then when i heard she was filling in for. He's an idiot. Yes well no. She's a rookie. He's a rookie. She does she's not doing it right. Well actually she is doing it right. She just a little over zealous with the. Please stay safe stuff too much now. I guy keta reported who. Wanna get that out of the way. I'd love to one and two two of them. Long-awaited massive invasion of cicadas is now swimming. Large areas of the east and midwest and these little bugs can be deafening. That's what they sound like. What if they're anywhere near you. We don't have to tell you that. This group of insects is called brewed ten in it emerges from the ground every seventeen years with swarms are so big in the baltimore washington area that they show up on national weather service radar. Good news is they won't stick around much longer bench. He shows us what the bugs are doing while. they're here. How the rest of us are coping in the backyard of jessica helms maryland home. You're getting over two thousand a day. It is peak. Cicadas season-high her six year. Olivia started counting them. We found many bugs but quickly ran out of fingers and then buckets forever stepping sucato keta shells cover the ground and hang from the trees and while all of this may terrify many adults. You think i'm kind of lame. Bolivia is now invested in these insects. Us kedah's names and rides on all of her toys. Jeez what network was this. Well you'll get a clue when you play part to what network it was. And who is you'll see looking. Insects are inspiring fashion and music. Brewery in virginia created a sucato beer brewed x. Harmed in the making of the spirit which is perfect for washing down a crunchy. Ck taco. you'd expect the guy wearing this to enjoy eating that but at this restaurant in leesburg. Virginia there are selling orders of Tacos every day about fifty percent of those come in order. A second round tacos to buy pot of is the chef. Look tasty is looking at me. They're gonna look at you. Look judge you and then it was time for my first one apetite bug bite. Crunchy nutty so our anchor gayle. King really wants to eat them. Cicadas can you send her a couple of days this is. I'm so tired of this. You know i worked at mtv and this was the kind of stuff we had. Extreme sports mogul skiing. Water skiing snowboarding. I never would. I refused to jump out of airplanes. But you know there's always something extreme and wow. This is so cool and now every single station about it right. You're the producer. You're not on the air corps. Got these these meat puppets. Okay i want you to eat attack on the air keta. I want you to put it in your mouth. Okay you get that bail you get film it sure. Yeah that's true. Yeah that's what you wouldn't you do the same thing to the poor bastard field. His it interesting though that amongst all of the horrible things our world is going through with increased. Veracity velocity of storms and extreme weather. But yet the cicadas right on time no problem no issue no issue what. Yeah and eat a bug feet. Nothing like the. I love bang. I have An economic indicator. That thought might be kind of interesting. always interested. we don't have zephyr today do we. That's only sunday. I missed it might may have may have not gone by the keeper. Texted me very very excited With the picture and this means that the economy is coming. This booming back. The onion grinder is back at costco. Once again. you have a condiment station and tables and the onion grinder. That must mean that. We are opening up only in texas. We don't have the onion grinder here and they won't even give us. They've gotten to the point where the local costco when you buy. The hot dog eat with adams talking about is this machine that has a bunch of chopped onions in it and the grind looks like you're grinding. They come out land on the hot dog. It's kinda gross. Really gross and unsanitary. But they still have. They used to have one with the sauerkraut but then they stopped that one the they won't even give it a little containers the sauerkraut out anymore. I know they weren't even giving catch up only mustered before they even these they stopped. Most people say shouldn't put catch on a hot dog. But i'm just you shouldn't. I'm one of those people. My daughter does the are you also against pineapple on a pizza love pineapple i love it know. I have a new one. It's pineapple pepperoni and black olives. Nice when we do as pineapple and spinach team is always good. But there's a big debate about this by. Here's what happened with the pineapple. I never. I was always of the side. Ribian year. pineap- yuck you're sick and so this was that maybe oh. This is only a few years ago. That was actually quite a while ago. Ten years ago. Okay just fifteen actually okay. So about fifteen years ago they had they keep bringing these amaechi pizzas in and they brought in a a pineapple. Pizza was the pineapple and ham. Which i don't like that. But no i don't like that. So they brought innocent. I'll try. I tasted it and i do realize that the pineapple and tomato sauce cheese and every was absolutely stunning. It was a perfect match made in heaven. Call them to other people in size is called. Hawaiian pint hawaiian pizza. It's really good. I would recommend people give it a shot. Tina is from chicago and She says it's almost grounds for divorce. Guess she never had it. Oh no she's had it she doesn't she she's is these wrong. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with her. Care avert river third vile man. Thanks nicer anyway In world war. I mean that. I don't have a recording. I want everyone to be on the lookout because one of those things. That's going to be the way we lost half our audience with that pineapple pizza. Things thinks so this like they're all like tina. There's a whole conversation in the troll room about it now and we have not lost. You're very annoyed by us engagement. No it's super engaging but is engaging here is a memoir. I'm hearing it. I'm hearing more of it. Warm weather more violent crime cruel summer being look for it. I won't recordings cruel summer. It's going to be a cruel summer. I've heard it two times already. I haven't recorded. But i've heard it. So i just want people to be on the lookout right. Whenever that happens you know so biden gave up talk. Yes he goes to and goes air force base or a military base there. Yeah i have some clips good now. Npr covered this. I have a pre clip of the the npr biden When i don't wanna play that. Npr well i can skip it here. It s biden. Trip a rundown. Npr president biden has arrived in the united kingdom on his first overseas trip as president by taking part in an eight day swing will also include an appearance. F g seven summit biden is looking to reassert the us onto the world. Stage will also be presenting. The message can compete economically with china and other countries president arrived at raf mildenhall where he outlined his agenda. Us forces stationed there. This is my first overseas trip. United states i'm heading to the g seven then to the nato ministerial and then to meet with mr putin to let him know what i want him to know. Biden also slayton to meet one on one with british prime minister. Boris johnson and visit queen elizabeth at windsor castle. You will meet in geneva with president vladimir putin at the end of the trip so they've managed to find the one little clip in there or biden sinked when people cheered him. They cheered him a lot he had a. He had a booster Audience that was behind him and they will. It was like a bunch of army guys in and they were marines. Maybe and they were. You have to imagine a guy who got it. All have masks on. The guy is holding two small american flags in front of him and then waving him. Maniacally like like a little girl at a at a parade. Was i would what the the damage was not good okay. But let's listen. Here's a bite in a medley medley. Show everybody quote another artist. Produce to the world's changed changed utterly terrible beauty has been born. We're a global comments. The sees the air the space and space remain open and accessible for the benefit of all. You must all commit to an ambitious climate action over the tank in the pentagon. When i first was elected vice president with president obama notary status down to let us know what the greatest threats facing america were the greatest physical threats white people. This is not a joke. You know what the joint chiefs told us. The greatest threat facing america was global warming. Then put a man in. The moon flew a helicopter on mars. I like to sneeze. There was a cough. Oh sound like a sneeze got to other. They didn't get a lot but this one here was interesting because it he just listened to it as a six second clip. It was very much at the end. And he says give. He says the clippers called. Give my word planet it from the bottom or heart. I give you my word. Thank you all for what you do. I give you my word. What's wrong with that piece. I give you my my say it to you. Adam yes. I give you my word. Thank you stay. Safe of the word is thank you that would i give you my word. Thank you two words. I give you my. If you gonna say this. I give you. My word doesn't mean you're going to do something. I don't know what he said before. Did he say w believe me as disconnected to what he said before. We don't have the trying to wrap it. It goes. I give you my word. Thank you thank you for being here. He's just he's just ending it up and give you my word stay safe. Thank you stay safe against. Actually that would be something but the only real. I think the funniest bit is nine. Second clip this biden. Dictators at a gym prepped exposes false the narrative that decrees of dictators can match. The speed is scale. The twenty-first challenges. But what what does that even mean. Don't play it again. It's only nine seconds. Try to figure out. What he said crept exposes false narrative decrees of dictators can match the speed and scale. The twenty-first challenges something about trump. I'm sure the dictators they can move as fast. As the twenty-first century challenges in never said century just said twenty. I i'd like to. I'd like to teach some. German blight cr that stay safe in german. It sounds better. Seahawks blight see her try. Liked what i can't okay. Blake b. l. e. i. b. bleep. Bleep yeah see her so seeker only with a seafood. Her blight seeker close enough. I think we should use that instead of say safe. Stay safe could is a little bit. Doesn't shine did the german. That doesn't sound like you can't say this hitler not good enough. I'm sorry i tried hitler enough. All right. I have a couple things to just through new world order stuff. It seems like we're we're globally. Were trying to let the the slaves. No that we've got normalize everything. The rich are assholes So we have these secret. Irs files that came out through propublica a known leak their known to leak stuff about what's going on with that. Well the reason why. I say that is because we had the The secret irs files. Also germany has an is now a their ultra rich. But this is a number of Is i guess is what i'm saying is trying to be trying to make all the rich people. Look like douchebag what theories what else have you heard. Well the reason i heard listen other right wingers. They said that when they were going to do the taxing on for the to pay for the the next bill infrastructure bill. They kind of backed off on on gouging. The rich yes. We're maybe not pain. And so they put so this comes out saying they don't pay any taxes anyway so i mean you might while we gouging so i don't know it seems to be. Some political motivation is leaking. Everything is political everything. Oh my god oh back to biden. I had a different take than most people on this communist thing which From what i can read actually A lot of democrats are really unhappy with her. I'm seeing articles. Was this way we will back up. Because you'd what do you mean to what i don't know what the background is. I'll play this clip. You have any plans to visit the border. I'm here in guatemala today. At some point we are going to the border. We've been to the border. So this whole this whole this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border. We've been to the board border. And i haven't been to europe and i i don't i don't understand the point that you're making now. How did you interpret that. And i haven't been to europe. I interpreted the way. I put it in the newsletter. Which was that. She wanted to go to europe and no she knows biden's headed over there with with his wife and didn't take her because she's using the odd man in the back that standing there like you know lifeless in the back brown s. He speaks i think at night. Listen to this several times. I read that it. I think that was my initial reaction as well. But now that i listened to it it's different. What what what. I think she's saying is why. Don't why didn't you ask joe that question about him going to europe. Why are you picking on me. And he was picking on her. 'cause he i mean that is very un. Nbc like to go. You didn't go to the border. And she knows it and if you listen again with that in mind it sounds more like. She's saying well. You can go to europe either like how come you didn't talk to joe. Why don't you put this to the president. You shit we've been to the border into the border. And i haven't to europe night on more likely that that's why she said. She has such disdain for joe that she has to stand in the shadows and then she gets all the heat for the crap job. Your interpretation is wrong at all because it's quite likely because there were no reason. The drought that europe bomb in there no out of the blue chicago. Maybe maybe she's zirk with joe and maybe she's under fire marginalized as the vice president. She's been cut out she's well she doesn't look happy she's under fire. The chicago tribune column. Please god pleased. Biden must endure until twenty twenty four. They don't want her to be president. They think she's which he is. They think she's horrible. These are democrats. They they they are. I think may even be afraid of her to some degree. I you know. I every time i look at her. I think she ever became president. We're screws would be interesting. 'cause she's i just looks like she's a fascist. I think there's a pretty good troll site. This whole trolling missions happening. In a number of producers have sent me this odd trump's new social network. It's coming it's coming. Trump's new social network is called the trumpet and this was announced. And i'd like you to go to this website. If you can pop up a browser there okay. The office. forty-five number forty five dot com. The office forty five dot com. This is i believe this to be a huge troll site and people are signing up This this is this is built by jokesters or someone who wants to sign number forty five. Yes the office. Forty five dot com but people are sending this like. It's called by the way. Isn't that a big clue when it's called the trumpet. You know that's not he's going to call a social network but they're signing up for the email announcements affording me the emails. I think you're being had peeps. This is not trump. i don't think it is either. And i'll tell you i don't think it's trump. I have a number of reasons but go ahead. Well my first. Initial reason is the photo the black and white photo agencies knocking. Smuggled exactly what he ever remember at us. Never never never So that's out. I like to contact this this. What me off under contact us So they have sign up for trumpet soon. Real americans will have voice on the trumpet. you'll be able to interact with the real. Donald trump from his genius brain directly to the american people but this platform will be for american patriots. Only many people are predicting it will be bigger than twitter and facebook combined and then below the better yet in person donald j trump and melania trump enjoy hearing from the american people. But they really like it. When real americans visit them at their beautiful home at mar-a-lago use the password hole in one at the gate. So that security knows you are. This is the same as a gag. That's floating around about the to get the real good kovic taxes. The canadian gag. It's in a newsletter. We get you to get a good cova. Tests take a stool sample and mail it to resumed. Oh there will. Party does canada. Yeah i wonder if these this is bullcrap from the get-go bet it's obviously bullcrap. Nobody's fallen for this. Are they know plenty. If people are falling for it within their they need to rethink themselves. This is got all the earmarks of a scam and is a mailing list collector. S so i wonder what the second shoe is when it drops one and everybody who gave me on some mailing lists for the rest of party bright note from and by the way you know what the other big major giveaway is what colors. The background is not even a good orange. it's completely is orange. it's not right so obvious. Note from one of our producers. I heard you horwitz talking about the the prices. We've talked about a to about these. The prices going out of control which are I think we both agree that they're in artificially inflated by the way i gotta go poop on the former new york bankers you see the announcement about blackrock. The blackrock is buying up as many homes as they can. Twenty percent overprice says no. That's not true. Fuck it's true. These guys are buying up everything taken away. The children people are definitely bitching about this problem. Quick report from the field of automo- automobile manufacturing while the chip shortage has threatened a few of our and other suppliers. It's really the resin that seems to be the biggest challenge for most suppliers as you. Well know much of what goes into. Cars is plastic. The bmw plant here in south carolina is the largest bmw manufacturing facility in the world. As far as numbers are concerned. This is why with the best podcast and university. We have the best producers win situation right now where bmw global shutdown other facilities just to keep this one running. Most of the answer ancillary cillari suppliers are also doing the same thing just to larry larry thank. You are doing the same thing just to keep this plant online. So as for the company. I work for many facilities in north america already shut down for extended periods due to manufacturers ford and chevy shutting down production for weeks or months while they wait on ships and plastic to be available plastic. Isn't that what. Dustin hoffman is still doing since since the graduate plastics lasted. We only get plastic from china. We don't make any. I guess not. Is it the greatest. Plastic operations are all out of taiwan Told when i was in one year i was there and i was told that the detainees are the number one in the world experts at injection moulding. Right if you if you haven't you can dream something up. They can make an injection molded of it and nobody else can do it. They say but i think a lot of plastic comes from finnish plastics. I think we make plastic. Refineries comes out of their the resins. the something fishy about it till i know i think we don't we get new and numbers today. New inflation numbers today or tomorrow tomorrow. Probably fridays four point two last time. What do we think it is now. I think it will go up above five. No they lie. Sh if you don't say they won't be true. So i have a long clip if you wanna hear it because this is kind of a podcast. I just kept the podcast right. Because he couldn't take him but this guy's a writer worked in china cameron pasha. He's worked on a lot of different shows and he worked in china and he came up with a with a looks like the divorce between hollywood in china is underway a really it because there was a large article in the hollywood reporter large. I miss discussing. How relationship got started how it started to fall apart. I and how it seems. Now that everybody's bailing from the chinese relationship except disney. Who stuck there. Because they have to amuse parnes. Yeah and and but meanwhile being told how to present. This is a two minute clip. Two and a half minute clip Of this guy. I think he summarizes things. He's a little. I to cut some stuff out but it's fascinating because i think he's right and then later in the pike as they discuss. What's what's going to slowly evolve. Which is hollywood going. After china in their storytelling. Shall we haven't seen that yet. But that's coming is received quite the opposite. We've seen exactly the office. It is over if he listed this. It's over listen to this. Hollywood for all of its talk of idealism has always been about one thing and one thing only which is money right there at the end of the day. It says what it says in order to get pr Which is again about money. If you can sound morally righteous than people will come and support your products and watch your movies and watch your television shows. I and so. That's the goal of it and so the problem. The chinese the party depart from the china presented with at least a chinese communist party presented was that it was the source of money. At least that was what was being. You held up as a character. We're going to be a source of tremendous money for hollywood. But when you're not going to be able to bring morality into the conversation if you want our money and you're not able to critique our policies. I mean we had years. We had movies like seven years tibet and all that and so all that stopped all the tibet used to big. You know hollywood political thing raise money for tabet. The delilah is celebrity right and then suddenly all the free tibet stuff. Stop real fast. The when when china became at least the anticipated source of money. But then the problem. And i think the article goes into it is that china made one mistake. Is that if you're going to blackmail someone we actually have to follow through with it. So if you're going to use money as the way to leverage power over hollywood you actually have to make hollywood invested in getting that money but the problem authoritarian government like the chinese communist party is that they. They aren't able to think that way they're used to just doing the ordering people to do things and people obey and so they did not see that all the restrictions they place on how hollywood can make money on it would actually sour. The relationship right. It was a chinese communist. Party's greed and power hunger. That took away. Its ability to actually use hollywood as propaganda piece because once hollywood realize we're not making money on this. Then why are we shackled to this. What annoyed hollywood is. Oh we thought we were gonna make billions of dollars off of you. But you're keeping most of the revenue for yourself. Both in terms of movies in terms like disney parks. Well then. what's in it for us. You want us to be. Are your propaganda arm. What are we getting out of it. And that was the mistake to china's communist party made. Is they overplayed their hand and could and could not consider the actual point of bribery. Which is we actually have to pay the money to bribe someone. That's interesting do you think. That's part of the reason. Why biden reverse the tiktok ban to give him a little olive branch for entertainment and also hollywood left hollywood. It's now amazon. Netflix and And they're not in china's far. I know those guys don't stream in china nobody's gonna be in china shortly Good they're bailing out the whole thing. Which was i think three years ago. And this show. We were lamenting that. Big studios are being in china. On behalf of you know various. So what is it. Why why why this change of heart. Because he said they'd never got the money. They were promised dares she sheep the best price. We'll there's a couple that you can. You can sign ups and m. k. Ultra americans all day long. You don't pay us shit happens whereas all this money. We were promised vow. That's a good one. I like that. I know this was going on. But it's it's pretty funny. The other gonna turn on china with the story lines because they can do whatever they want to china's like the fast and furious movie. I didn't take the clip of this. But john cena a just conservative. Worst person ever because of his apology because he apologized mandarin chinese for even suggesting that taiwan was a country. And now he's you know. He's pretty much a blacklisted. By everybody both sides of the of the ocean and the chinese won't go see fast and furious and this guy explains that if china if the chinese people get a hint that they They might be tracked as under social monitoring system for going to see fast and furious nine. Because the chinese don't like john cena go to the movie because they don't want to get that black mark on their little numbering system so the movies a huge flop in china when it should be a big success. Cool all hell's breaking loose. This is a bad time. Yeah i like it excellent. Well they screwed it up. You don't get china if you wanna keep playing us you gotta you gotta you gotta pay to play baby. That's that's actually the hollywood way. Yeah new york times had a very interesting article that caught my eye and this is regarding the withdrawal from afghanistan and it's so confirms our theory that the only reason we're there is to continue the the endless supply chain the rat lines of the poppies for suitable. Yes and for the cia for their for their illegal drugs. Slash weapons trade. So here's the headline. Cia scrambles for new approach in afghanistan. And here's the problem. There's they won't have a base. They need a base that can handle large transport planes. That is not too far from the poppy fields. And they're now the in pakistan doesn't want him anymore you know after we got that We got the phony bin laden there. and so they're even going so far as kirghistan trying to get a base there and try to try to use other countries basis. They're flipping out. They don't know what to do. Is we need a base. We need to load these planes something to keep our eye on as they try they're going to have to. Every running. debt debts was since the new york. Times is a some sort of a We got to kind of deconstructed. Why do you think that article is running in new york times in the first place is this like a message is like. Here's our problem. We can't do this anymore here. is anybody out. there can help us. Just let us know possibly sky to be. It's like a one ad possibly one little things here. I got a couple mysterious things. I got john kirby at the state department. Pentagon was the wincing. John kirby yes. I've got a couple of clips that are interesting. yeah First of all this will be got three about china challenge. I clip i use. Let's do kirby challenge of china. They're talking about china. I use it is sorry. This is the first a term. Is that the task. Force's work with you went. I use them. Sorry that's the one okay. Yeah when i used not. I got got it got it got it got it here. We go. I think you also saw today. The secretary issued a directive to the force that initiate several major department wide efforts to better address the security challenges posed by china as thirty nine states number one pacing challenge. Challenge these initiatives some of which will remain classified are designed to focus departmental processes and procedures and better health department leaders contribute to hold government efforts to address the challenge of china. Oh whole of government. The terminator's pacing. Yes i gotcha you know about this no. I don't either play this. I got to of eclipses. Kirby secrets pacing challenge. I clip that. The task forces work was sort of a down in look at the way. The department is organized. The way it's structured and the way we think about the broader issues of china from a security perspective. It wasn't meant to be an up and outlook. So it's not a strategy that has been produced here really. It's it's an assessment of how the department's doing With respect to truly treating china as the number one pacing challenge and the task force found some some gaps and seams. Some things that we could be doing better and back to your question. The directive issued by the secretary. Lease out some some initiatives and efforts that were recommended recommended by the task force that he wanted the department to adopt pacing challenge. Here's the last clip. Where uses pacing. Challenge back to your question. The the directive issued by the secretary lays out some some initiatives and efforts that were recommended recommended by the task force that he wants the department to adopt so that we can improve the way. We think the way we plan the way we the way. We structure organized ourselves to truly deal with china. The number one pacing challenge. What the secretaries concern was that That he didn't want to just say this he wanted to make sure we were actually acting on it will. This is driving me nuts. I'm look. I'm looking at article after article. Where this this phrase comes up. A what the hell does it mean. guess what. I'd like to know the pacing challenge. Do we have to have some military guys. Tell us because we don't know there's gotta be somebody listening to this show saying i know what of course i mean i can understand kind of what it might be referring to which is which is the fact that china is like you know Moving its economy and its social structure. And all these things they had and we have to keep pace with them In so far as the military. Whatever i don't know but i mean it's got something to do with as got to well. Some of the initiatives will remain classified. Defense officials told reporters that the effort puts new organizational structures in place to better prioritize competition with china. And to make sure the challenges in the indo pacific pacific region are quote gaining the attention. They deserve maybe. It's a friendly way of saying we're were we're going to beat you up. It's gotta be saving. I this is i agree. We need some Military maybe i was gonna say military spook term. Yes so called dookie term. Mst he did one other thing in his press briefing. Most recent one that i thought was like another fits shaker kirby on the arctic arctic centre onto other news. The secretary is proud to announce today the establishment of a sixth defense department regional center. This will be the ted stevens center for arctic security studies. Ted stevens center will provide a new venue to collaborate across the us government and with our allies and partners to advance shared interests for a peaceful and prosperous arctic. The defense department. Regional centers are international academic venues for bilateral and multilateral research communication and training with the goal of building strong sustainable international networks of securities leaders. Will now that is interesting as well. The ted stevens center didn't did was he. The guy died in a weird plane crash in again murdered. Yes this is like a gimme like oh we murdered him but he in alaska so that would kind of make maybe. He was involved in something with the arctic. There's a lot of mysterious stuff up there. This whole thing was suspicious to me the naming and everything in between well you know if you if you listen to the alternative the alternative to the alternative information circuits The military is is not austin is not in control of the military at all. He's only there to do You know critical race theory type comments and social justice stuff and that the military in fact still loyal to trump and that the august time line is in play for him to be reinstated. I just to mention this. It's yeah i know you do. It's a big belief and michael. Flynn is definitely pushing. This and the term is and the gloves off. it's archer now and the gloves are off. So what is wrong with you. Mike are you. Is it fallen off the stand there. What's going on your mic. Is a sunrise noisy noisy. This is you know what. I think what this is. The noise screen is banging into it. Okay you spit screen. One brief clip then Seeing as critical race theory is. I'm not gonna play these clips of parents at you can look them up anywhere at school meetings. And some of them very articulate very good putting these people in their place telling they work for us not the other way around. They don't want critical race. Theory there overturning school boards. The american people are rising up. And it's not just republicans or red states it's everywhere and so when that happens you gotta roll out the big guns you would think with all the public policy debates that are taking place right now that you know. The republican party would be engaged significant debate about. How are we going to deal with the economy. And what are we going to do about climate change and what are we gonna do about lo and behold the single most important issue to them currently right. Now it's critical race theory. Who knew that. That was the threat to our republic. They really had the send him out to that. Didn't they though. The economy is booming for all practical purposes according to everybody. So why is anyone again. It'd be discussing that as global climate change beaten to death would make. Why did they bring this guy. He's he's a socialist communist. I'm convinced of it now. We were doing. our Is really odd. But tina tina so organized. I love that woman like we were doing our will. I don't want to think about that. Not up for doing our will. It's very smart. You know you should do that. We got all kinds of stuff and you know history and kids and you know the last thing. Actually we want everyone to fight so we're trying to make it as as as crazy as possible But the The lawyer when we were on zoom call you know she's talking about certain things you can do to protect It's all about estate taxes. Refu- die than how much will the state take away from your children. And she said i'm just going to get political moment here. Hope you don't mind. She's in texas. So i knew what was coming. She said you know when. I read What i read marx said is very obvious. What's going to happen here. And they're going to lower the threshold of eleven point two mil. I think it's eleven point seven million dollars. You can give away untaxed when you die like. That's not going to be a problem for me. But she says it will probably go down to one and a half to two million which you know you have a house in a couple of cars and by that time you know inflation. That's really quite quite interesting. How they're pushing all of this critical race theory. The the elites shouldn't be making all that money although they are and they will continue to do so. We need universal basic income when you do get to tax tax that you can't you can't leave anything to your children. That's not fair. An interesting how you can inherit the evil white supremacy from your ancestors multiple generations. But you can't inherit money from your parents. Isn't that interesting how that works. It's is fascinating by the way that this critical race through thing is being brought up everywhere are not happy about no. They shouldn't be it's horrible. It's racist it is racist was besides that it's marxist. There's they've talked about it before it comes. Back comes out of the sixties. During that era of marxism was a failed idea on a critical theory by herbert mark. Kusa and the boys out of the frankfurt school. The whole thing is a communist idea. It's just a way to subvert the country to make it week which is what they're trying to do with the people that they have in office including aoc and bernie sanders and all parts of succeeding. It's succeeding that part is kinda succeeding by think. This critical race which is a subset of critical theory is gone too far. This is worse than to be that stupid common core thing. Nobody liked that. Either is being when it comes to messing with the kids. You know they're asking for trouble but most parents lot of pairs now. They're all in whatever. I don't know it seems like a lotta shot. Let them list or whatever they want to lose dating their kids and then finally before we take a break. I watched the the apple developer conference presentation. Yeah yeah w. wdc. Yeah which. I like watching because they tell you a lot more about about what's coming in the features a i have to. What did you think by the way when you saw it did you. I'm sure you watch some of it didn't you did you watch i wash a few minutes of it. Like the emojis in the audience which is pretty much. Couldn't tell the difference old audience the same to me and It was to rush thought was rushed and i thought that there was no incremental crap. Yeah some your big time. Old time apple user. I mean they kicked me off the platform years ago and i've never really gone. Have us an iphone. I haven't used to voluntarily left yes. I left several years ago. I just looking at this. I have to say two things one. The what they're making is beautiful. It is so slicks the all the it's incremental but it's all these little things all these little features is just it is a beautiful soft marshmallow world and increasingly. It is clear to me. If you stick with this platform they will own you and make you stupid. It is a complete lock and they're locking you in on everything and content no longer will flow that going. It's all in the cards. They've got it all set up. It's going to be safe from day. One make it real pretty an attractive and suck you in and then and pat you a lot in the head and said don't worry don't worry we can do it and we can do it together and then you become an apple person but it's it's worse now you everything is inside the apple ecosystem and they have a big ass firewall around you and they determine what is okay for you to have. Yeah as you agree to it. The people don't know they don't know what's coming when i go. I can't get to that. Can't get that information now. You watch no agenda. Social dot com will soon be unavailable on apple devices. I can be can feel comments. Apprise me it's coming right down which is why we all need to flip phone show by donation to know agenda. Imagine all the people who could do was on full. Yeah that'd be fun we do if you people think for show which is all fifty four. 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How about this one. That's wrong that one. And that's all i got. I thought it had more. That's all i got. You must have something better. I hope. I don't know. I get excited here. We go get excited about k. Watch watch watch where we're stepping stepping from the clip. I like it. Yeah and then wrong the wrong. I like watch where you're stepping kind cute. Keep tapping the ask you and then have one clip. I know you'll have the always have gone at the end this i have. If you're going into the show notes you can see that in the bat versus lab. I think there's ten clips if you wanna go through it there's a fallacy the scientists under attack. There's a twenty eighteen. Nih advisory council meeting where he's literally talking about gain of function research loophole even 2016. Peter of echo health alliance talking about sequencing the spike protein. Amidst all in there but Instead of playing that. I will play a just a short bit which i thought was funny. senator joe kennedy and the guy is just He's just a medium fast sean. Every time i've asked i'm asked about dr pouch. Say the same thing. I know dr fauci. I mike dr fauci. I respect dr pouches. But dr fauci needs to cut the crap. This isn't about dr vouching. it's not about his feelings. I'm sure if his feelings were hurt. No maybe he audubon emotional support pony. But but we're not debating a dance moves on tick talkie we're talking about millions of human lives and here's what we know dr fauci gave a lot of. Us taxpayer money to the wuhan lab for chinese scientists to research. Back corona tharcisse ads. Just as all these different things all these hip terms he's thrown out there. I think he's very weird. That this guy kennedy was first name israel. Joe's joke joke. john. John john john. He's not related. As far as i know he's always say the least he's not one of the good quote unquote get it. He's not a kennedy all right here. I'll play you one thing. I got could mike continuation of the call in show. Ooh on c. Span we got. Here's a call ins. This is all one word collins. There's an some one weirdo one weirdo. Yea call ins opposed one weirdo. Oh i see. I got florida you oppose good morning. I absolutely oppose. I wanna give. Thanks to the king of kings emperor. Selassie i who is kings secondly biden and the democrats are trying to replace black people with hispanic people because black people are gonna eventually get off the damn reservation the slave things that they are making them live under and are gonna get smart and vote them son of bitches out while they let that whole thing stay in their good. I was very. That's it that's the one we're playing the last one. I can also do one more. Do you want call ins anti biden. Drunk bob why. Don't you tell us why. I oppose it all because as far as immigration goes years ago when you came in this country learning in our learn english and learn our our country and everything else but now they turned it all the way around on. If you don't know anything about the spanish and you don't want to learn spanish you're guilty. That's country's gone to hell in a handbag but nobody's gonna be job just probably until everything stopped that okay that no more coming in. Does nobody coming into this country unless they do it. The right way. Bob what do you think about the congress here and its efforts. Or or lack thereof depending on. Who's calling in this morning on on this issue over over the years. What would you say to them. Don't waste your time because congress is what they wanna do. Nobody's gonna change congress to canton. What do they know it all. Except this country's going down the toilet elena handbag. I'm gonna use that one going to helen handbag and it's gucci. bergen cool. 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275: Dr. Ashley Smitherman | Perspective Dental

The Dental Marketer

52:42 min | 9 months ago

275: Dr. Ashley Smitherman | Perspective Dental

"Hey guys welcome to episode two. Seventy five of the dental market or podcast. I'm your host. Michael ids and in this episode. We are talking with dr ashley smitherman. And we discuss. How how she's always gone many many referrals but we're also talking about how her plan for now in on is her main. Marketing is getting more and more for and so we discussed how she has gotten more referrals. But first and foremost we know a little bit about past present and future goals. She went to dental school in houston and his interesting thing. In two thousand sixteen. She bought a practice and then in two thousand eighteen ahead had a fire. And it wasn't one of those little small fires where it's like. Oh no it was a complete loss. Her whole practice and something interesting that she mentions A piece of advice is firefighters. Don't care right it's the investigators who care right who are looking into it so keep that in mind throughout the episode we also talked about an acquisition that in hindsight she would not purchase again. Now the reason for that was because maybe there was a bending of the truths when she was going to purchase it. So like you know how when you purchase something or when you purchase or you you you do a transition acquisition. You expect the numbers. The new patients the production collections. Everything to be pretty close spot on right now. This was a little bit off or a lot of bit off. Actually and that's why we she's maybe thinking there might be a bending of the truth. We don't know we don't know right and Possibly a lot of mischarging was going on and more and there was stuff that said it was planned in the charts and completed but in the patient's mouth when the patient would come and see them it was clearly not and so that can be tough right Going in and you're like. Hey this is exactly how you charted it and so forth can be confusing for. The patient can be confusing for the whole team so she talks about how she overcame. That we'll talk about. How production suffered the first year and how she can never get production back to where it was in pflueger. Ville where her practice was down and almost all the employees left within the first six months of acquisition. And we hear this and a lot of episodes in the past you hear oh man. I kept almost all the employees or one or two left. But let's listen to how actually dealt with it. It's very interesting. We also talk about why she had to let go of some of them because some of them were making beaucoup bucks like a lot a lot of money. And you're wondering like you're not that great and you're making this much. Wow how do you let them go. Actually talk about that. We also talk about How she used the consulting group in the beginning and that was hard she recommends not using a group and she talks about a wine and she also mentioned us to not. Just watch your terrible numbers. Do something with them. Sometimes i guess it's like paralysis by analysts as we look at the numbers and we just are distraught and it and we think we're doing something but when you dig in. You're not doing anything but looking at the numbers and getting stressed out about it. So we talk about that and then we also kind of wrap it up a little bit about how She's currently getting more and more referrals. And at the same time. There's a sponsor to this episode. And ashley talks about the sponsor because she uses them so if you want wait till the end of the episode. I'm going to give you guys an exclusive deal for the sponsors so guys without further delay. Here is dr ashley smitherman. Actually how's it going pretty good. How about yourself. I'm doing pretty good raskin. I wanted to ask. I know we were just talking about right now. Toes a little bit about how your day's coming along today. Today's interesting day. I was just telling you that it's kinda stressful. Because i have done a procedure that a procedure that haven't done in a while and so you know just kinda into the patient was like. Yeah let's go. And do it and i was like. Oh okay you know getting everything. Ready or excel Stressful but it went well and so here we are. What procedures do you normally like. What procedures are you insanely comfortable with. And what procedures are you like in for this. But i guess you so. I am fairly comfortable with most brennan buddy bread and butter dentistry. I have done different courses in staff side implant pathways last year but actually haven't placed an implant in my own practice just yet. I'm just because i didn't purchase all the equipment just yet especially in shutdown so actually pleasing my first implant in my office Probably in two weeks cousin. Sam do that. And then that we get the workflow down and then kind of go from there. But i'm not something new that i'll be doing But comfortable in most I do. I do get referrals from tm. Jane in world sciences and so t in jail like lot But i was just telling you that team jay patients have done awhile so That was stressful. But we're fine so you got it so then the do you have on your website or anything like that where people are like. Oh she does. Tm j. or i'm going to refer her. It will when i got back into this to my practice. I i didn't. I wasn't advertising as much or it. Mainly because the space i was before accommodate accommodate at of extra people extra chairs as far as on so's mainly just kind of like an emt in a few people that knew that. I did it. Send me patients in my own existing patients. I would treat. But now i've been able to get my referral pads out there into the network on castle wider net. To let people know that. I do this because i prefer them. Come from you know other people As far as means try to few different things for usually as it kind of narrows down a little bit but we do get some people that go to our website. Gotta see that we do it. I'm in the process of changing over my website. A marketing person. That is doing that right. Now it'll be more. Prominent as i'll i'll have referral Team jc center at my office. So that it's kind of out front center and get referrals or that specifically okay. That's also do you. Is it like a company or gonna. Who's gonna redo your website or is it. Yeah so. I use lived at berg Think is her last name live. You burn says she's basically my like i don't know what she Specific names like one of those But she directs basically marketing so i have seo accompanying that. I use a small company that i used that runs my actual ads and she overseas everything. She kinda overseas. What i do with my referrals And we look at at where my referrals coming from What's getting the best. Roi what can we out back on. What more of. She's a sounding board for that to make sure that we're putting the dollars in the right area. Gotcha gotcha okay. That's awesome we'll we'll we'll we'll talk about that a little bit in in a bit but kinda wanted to well before we get into it Tell our listeners. A little bit about your past your present. How did you get to where you are today. I just showed up like this. I'm just basically brilliant. I'm just amazing. I'm in austin was undergrad. Annum dental school in houston. I graduated in two thousand twelve. And i bought a practice in two thousand sixteen and it was an existing practice It wasn't exactly what it was cracked up to be which i found out later. That happens quite a bit. Know it is what it is you deal with it and move on two thousand sixteen about a practice and then in november two thousand eighteen that act fire and It was a complete loss. And so and i was pregnant at the time soon cash. It was like fun so it was really actually kinda comical The fire department. When i came up here. 'cause i got alert saying that you know people were entering the practice. You know your alarm system going off. And i come up here in. A second is too small fire located in the back in whatever you know. Wh what is that in that area if what you're asking me questions and then the so finally after our tuesday let me to win and they did not prepare me as they said a small fire but it was a small fire by like by their definition. It was off in kind of like the back office and then it kind of went into the ceilings kind roles forward and so whenever that happened everything got wet so everything was just fry basically So that happened in november and then a few weeks later i started. I started working out of my friend's office in louisville inches. A suburban area north of austin Sat out doctor on doctor. He's amazing He's a friend that graduated in houston year ahead of me so i worked at a his active on the weekends. Because we know that practice was indeed on the weekends was very hard to find a practice a Out of the weekends on the practice. And then i did work for him. Some during the we Hastens option for it but it was a weird transition. You know like it was fifteen or twenty minutes away. Hard for people. Were only seen people so we did that. I did that from december until probably eight earl. the baby in february. And then i did that. Until april and then i moved into another attempt space that was i was able to be in there. Whatever and it was closer to existing practice said that was better but it was also small and really awkward sars-like parking it was just kinda weird And so we didn't get move back into my old actor's existing space until january of this year actually and so I got back in here in january. And then we're in a few months and then you know Down for a little bit. But we're here. We're back so past years okay. So you're in the same place where the fire was. Right right yes. Is this all redone. I redid the floor plan. Redid everything. I expect changed the name of the practice when move the acts. I stuff changing it. I i worked with peak profits while i was much temp location to get better reimbursements when i moved back because address was different Different things with insurance so try to do some things to set myself up to be in a better position. When i got back. Wow so then like let's say let's just say right now. Some were assuming right like say right now. Somebody had a fire and then they're like okay. I want clean all this stuff up and then open it back up. They can renegotiate their address or will because my address had changed a location and then my address officially kind of had changed. And so then i was in that space for a year a little less than a year so i wasn't in the existing space anymore and so we were able to renegotiate things changing things around and treat it cut up like startup to get out of network at a network all the fun games that you play games that you play so then you're with christopher for that long to or now we're to know so in april is when i moved in into the location where i was able to be there whenever in the weeks. I rented this day and so i rented attempt space and from april april or may of two thousand nineteen until january of this year. Gotcha gotcha okay. Yeah chris coleman he's really cool guy really. You went to dental school in. Did you live in houston or now to so. I'm from a small towns in texas And then went to college station in went to houston for dental school. What small town in texas are you from. Franklin it's really tiny town. It's a trap okay. 'cause i'm originally from sugarland. I am familiar with louisville. Never honestly i've never really heard of franklin like yeah. I graduated high. School is like seventy seven people so it's really tiny or is that near. It's not really near anything it's inbetween. It's thirty minutes worth of college station. Oh okay so. It's not that far from that. No it's not that far from houston not. Oh okay yeah. Wouldn't i would. Never i would have been like wooden. Don't stop in this. Let's go the next gas station. And it's not like i'm from one of those other towns like chilli festivals and everybody knows that is Yeah okay got you got you. Okay so i want to talk a little bit about this fire. How did it start. It was electrical fire. So they don't know They don't know exactly what started it on missing older older shopping center kind of austin. And they're not really sure exactly what started it but they just. It was electrical. Wasn't anything related. Like i was in the parking lot was always be fully. Talk about of what could be in there like. Oh it was the niger. Oxygen like not just like people gossiping stuff there. It was none of that stuff. It was It started actually my personal office in the wall. They think and then my personal office obviously had papers and books and stuff and so it just just said that fire on you know until there is a loud boom and there was a window that was from my office to kind of this Bay area so hot in there that it blew out the window. That's what everybody heard is like an explosion. Was there any way this fire could have been prevented. No no i mean it's weird because it was i mean i guess maybe if i had someone look at all the outlets but i had the building inspected not too long for them but i mean who knows when it actually was that it wasn't anything dental pacific related or anything like that was just an outlet wall before the fire. Were you doing pretty amazing where you killing it. Like your production and collection were you. Were you paying yourself by then or were you break even or how yes. I don't wanna talk to you too poorly about like the owners. They listen to your podcast is it. Wasn't it wasn't rain very well. As managed a had someone independent that looked into it. That looked into the books and it just wasn't there like you know when you get into the practice near actually start working just it. Wasn't there like the anything really that they talked about. I actually spoke to an attorney afterwards to see if there's anything that could be possible. Do it was basically like figure it out because it'd be too sense to pursue So the production suffered the first year too. Because there's a lot of weird things going on that finally had to figure out. And then i had a. I don't know why. I do this to myself. But i had a baby pretty soon. After i bought the practice that was my first and then it just you buy something Tended and so you know. I was thinking that i would be in the practice for a lot longer before had have had the baby Happen yeah yeah in. Life just doesn't happen Do sometimes yeah. Yeah i get you know people. I don't know what it is but we have a lot of almost every startups are every started. We have on here. They're like yeah. I was doing it and like as soon as like construction happened. I got pregnant. And i'm like what how you know what i mean like the kinda plans like it was. It was definitely purpose. Definitely specific but You know they said that it would take a while for me to get pregnant but it happened like the first try so i mean just. It just happens that way. So oh so you you okay so a plan but you were hoping like it's gonna take a couple. Bryant yasser fertility. Take it typically takes about six months in a free to get pregnant you might as well start trying and then boom so but the second one took a lot longer so he was more ride about the second one that he was. Oh you get you. So i wanna remind a little bit and talk about how you're like you know we're not going to speak poorly about the previous owners or anything like that but in hindsight. What did the person who looked at everything. What did they miss they. I mean i don't know if they they miss things that could have been could have been done and so there was things like the patient came in and there was an extraction that was completed out bone graph done but that tooth was present in patients out Stuff like that so procedures that were build out down paid for by insurance are actually paid for by patience. i think But when you look in the mouth. And i don't just a lot of mischarging going on. I think it happened to austin for it to be that and i'm not saying that that was on purpose or who. Who was doing it not doing it. You know and i stopped keeping track after a while. Just it wasn't worth it to me to kind of my energy into it. But i haven't had patients from the state or stayed with me and i can look back near x rays in. I mean that's what it was. Initially that was planning quote unquote completed out in their not. Oh okay so then it was more like the clinical stuff or was it more like. Hey what you said you were making your line. You really weren't again. It was partially that like now. You know you always know. Because that time i've been out for four years or so you learn about the practice management size until until you're in it you don't really get it But yeah i mean. They just weren't making her whatever procedure. Mix doing that. They said they were doing which showed on. The reports narrowly worked. And i'm not sure you know. Plus there was a lot of patient credits on that had a fight over on. It was just a mess. Like all the you know what i mean like. When you run a are very nice and tight like easier things. Over ninety days either things you know. Sixty to ninety Certain percentage like want to make sure that we're writing audette or sending people to collections. Doing whatever they're a are was just really ridiculous. And if i just looked at those few things known to do that it was really pretty obvious. Yeah yeah do you think they were just trying to get it out of their hands like like they're like this is getting hammered Showed some i mean at the time. I mean austin is a hot market so things go for you know. Things go pretty quickly. As far as existing practices. That's why there's so many startups everywhere in the suburbs. And i'm in central austin Which is i guess. There's not as many startups against central. So maybe there is. I don't pay attention to who's good. Yeah just focus on yourself. So i'm not i'm not sure like i mean in hindsight i wouldn't have bought it that i mean you can't spend too much time thinking about that Happens it happens in you deal with it. So i got the production back to where it should have been by year. Two and then i was really going doing really well into eighteen. Never had the fire and then two thousand nineteen was terrible. I couldn't get patients to come. See me in louisville on saturday and sunday but i did have quite a few ortho patients Traditional Those people and then some people actually adjust started cases like one of their money back because they didn't want to travel is louisville. Every six weeks you know so just weird stuff like that. And then i. I couldn't ever get my production back to where it was like in the temp locations partially. I think it was is. It always comes back to me. Most most of it was me and some of it was location specific. We did have a lot of patients that wanted to wait until we were back here at my airport location and i don't know why that is. You know they just didn't want to go someplace different. Which is crazy to me. Just couldn't get them back at plus changes in hygiene and an you know like i said ultimately it's me i don't think i was just. My head was all in it. Mainly because i had a baby in february and i was trying to spend a lot more time with her. Because i didn't do that the first time nen trying to insiders. Don't think i was just all in like i should've been and but obviously back in our as i'm more than yeah definitely your what was production support so the first year production was like less than acceptable right or to you and then the second period was great story was where it should be. What was left will like so two thousand sixteen. I mean i was probably like two quarters of that actress was doing before. And then you're to. We're getting up air. I mean so we're year two. We were getting up there. I we're around eight fifty or so and then year three was two thousand eighteen. I guess technically you're through thousand eighteen. And i was at around nine when the fire happened. I would've i would've gotten over a million which is like what you hope for a single dock single hygiene practice or as. That was my goal at that time is we would have gotten there at the fire tank stupider fire and then two thousand nineteen was. Just i don't know on. This show is as like it was fucking terrible terrible. It was just really back to two thousand nineteen You're probably like five fifty six and it was just terrible. Like i could not get my production numbers backup and i was just. I didn't i didn't mailers. Did you know all kinds of stuff to get new patients and get mixes patients. Images wasn't working. And i don't know if it was just ahead wasn't an feel like looking back in two thousand nineteen. You just really didn't care as much meat eater alive I cared a lot. But that's where like. I think my focus was on. It was almost like a semi start out. Because i was trying to redo the space so i met with people to draw in review the space as changing the name i was changing the insurances My focus was on my future practice. Not my current cracks vicious. Just got away from where it needed to be. Yeah yeah that makes a lot of sense okay. Gotcha so then. The i want to ask right now when you did. Take the practice away from the previous owners. Did all employees stay or some like leave or what happened. It was all pretty much turnover within the first like eilly six months or so which at whatever office manager that was here. Whatever about the practice date. The previous owner chocked up to be this amazing person. She does things you know how it goes. Yeah but she was making a lotta money in our. And i didn't know with the going rates where austin like lived in austin that i worked actually in belton so i mean i had no idea what the going rates for office interests earned. My personal had looking practice told me that the salaries in line with what she expected And then whenever i got into the practice i talked to her and she says unknown. That's high We just waste she. She thought she saw that. The can i ask how much like give me a rage gear range how much i feel. I think it was like look at my table. I feel like it was like thirty five dollars an hour for an office manager. Yeah i've been. How many did you guys have everything. there was three private ops and to open bay and one kind of oakland bay six so i mean i think that if you had an office manager that was amazing doing other things he act like people are what they deserve. The practice sand. But in what was t you what okay so she was making like unless you say roughly around thirty five an hour. You're thinking according to the way she performs. How much were you thinking. She made like fired. So you fired her like his and three or four months is we started the chain of like although their employees leaving or now. Now now i mean some of the other ones had left before When one of them. I think before that And then one of them live kinda far lanes she laughs and then and that just kinda heart has started this chain if he believing that you know it's it's i wasn't the the practice owner that was now that i'm i wasn't listening now whatever But yeah yes. I'm not sure exactly what what kind of spread the events. But yeah just wasn't pretty. So i actually had my wife up in. It would be the first fired someone just in case like just be in the office. Because i didn't know catholics. We're going to go the office manager. Yeah that ended up being fine and deal. Yeah you fired her because where she was she was. She's letting people leave without paying. She was She's left in the day and didn't say anything just like went errands. I came back so it was just a lack of respect for me in my time. And you know the practice and atmos yousef used to being able to do those things She wasn't wasn't following up on treatment wasn't letting wasn't doing a are like none of that stuff was really happening. Even though we had conversations about it in someone with that paygrade and that supposedly amount of experience you would think that they would it would be able to do those things and she could have been going through some the personal Lots things right. Yeah yeah. I mean honestly thirty five an hour. I'd be like you'd better do like a whatever more than i ever known like i. This is better be the best thing ever right so okay so then all of them are now than but a majority or would you say all employees who used to work there left. Oh yeah okay. So all of them left. And then when you were looking. How'd you find your employees that you have now. So the i use a consulting group in the beginning And they put out the ads they interviewed and that just didn't i think when you trust someone else city you're hiring especially in the beginning It's hard because you're just giving it all up to someone else instead of owning it. You're owning the hiring someone and it just didn't work out well and you know there is two different employees that we could have hired Really wanted me to hire this. One person i wanted. Heidi other army hiring the other And it didn't go well. And i don't know that because my ami made it go l. But she ended up like no call new showing like an eventually just like walking away. So i kinda had that feeling but didn't trust it. You know when you're a new owner like that you just trust those gut feelings about people and about about things. You're the one that's in your practice. Yeah who have you know what i'm asking. Who was the consultant group at their local. So i like her. I like her as a person love her as a person any i mean consultants are expensive in for what she was providing. Just wasn't getting the return or wasn't getting kind of what i needed and eventually found someone else actually through christmas through dr And so ended up using different consulted. That he was using amended have been great. That's all had a lotta. My growth learned a lot from her and found. One of my assistants has been with me through the fire through moves all that with erc own. Simul you just learn different things different people. It was clear. I get you like seasons right like some seasons writing. Who did you use with the. Chris recommended wise dental solutions so their local. I don't currently use them now But they are. They still work with with doctor about. I'm assuming i haven't talked to gnarly got you got you okay. All right so then. Let's fast forward to after the fire right. You're you're now today where you're at right now. And what are you doing differently now that you do that you were not doing before that. You're like tango. I wish you had to do this. I wish i did this before. We would have maybe restart goal before or like what systems do you have in your practice. That are unique to our say to you. So what i do now. I just much more in with Kind of kinda my numbers and things like that. Just how everybody says you should be. Just wasn't i was watching them in temp location. I was watching them. Be terrible wasn't about Size in marketing and things like that. I've always done the same things like follow up calls. We use flowery implication Us we started using mood into Implication and we started just changing out different things when we were in the you know when covid with the shutdown i switched from weaves to mango to save money. There's just in different things that were just trying out. I use divergent dental for my snapshot of my numbers in my practice I've used dental intel in the past or was the other one practice. Those are those are great software. There's just too much for me. And not exactly what i need. Divergent just gives you kind of a snapshot a tennessee. I look really at my patient. Referrals where people are coming from. A big deal on that front at the front has where they where they came from. So i know. Because i do. Some thinking knows at all notes for the referrals from different positions in his. And so i wanna make sure that it constantly see my name you know and so i'm having good communication with any more patients so just more organized in that way and just follow up with people. I've always done post calls or Dental moved to even has can record a voicemail Push it to their voicemail Always afraid that also the same voice like a few weeks apart. The same exact voicemail Text messages it's easier Unless they're a little bit older. I'll call them so or if it's a really difficult procedure. Something happened today with the unlocking alcohol. Her specifically incentives messenger. Stuff like that. And then i give mike and mike. Every new patient has my phone number on it To every new patient gets a card with my email my number waiting in taxes me so yeah just stuff like Relationships with people like that so then i we hear this a lot like a ton with like software. Trae like there's a debate. And what should i go with like. I don't know like revenue elon flags and mode dantonio. Why did you pick dental honestly. We did a bunch of different demos. demos Women alight as far as a features and stuff that it had so just a kicks and then when we got into the temps space we insulted Started with a two. I'm not really sure. What specifically at at time i did it. I did have local matt denison their subscriptions right every folks you get a subscription news buddy. Does everybody hits on time to get your at microsoft switch to subscription. because that's only make more money. It's really highly that i'm gonna get it so it's just like i just signed up for the open dental like a electronic prescription today because you have to have it done january in so i started started that process. It's like well might as well start that fifty four more dollars a month gets you so then you with dente. They're the best fit right. Now or usage voicemail drop trade yes will. I don't do drugs so much more with my hygienists. So my head. Genesis record voice now incentive push it to patients. I just text them in through moton asking how the how they're doing and you could select if you text them or if you email them or whatever out that's how we present oliver treatment plants so all our treatment plans are present through identity. Text it to their phone and they're able to sign consent. Sign everything through their through until weeks payments through there. That's how we they're really cool thing that happened over the past few months is i switched to apex credit card. Numbers services as easy retriever. Not threat tangle and i switched from apex solely because it integrated Because you can essentially with ortho or with anybody wanna give a payment plan to you. Select the payment plan and you can push it to their phone giving them options. Bring or no or no options. You don't have to give a pan plan options. You give them whatever options you push it to their phone. A selected option they want automatically inserts Which is amazing. Wow okay so then when you I didn't know what tonight so you can actually equally good treatment plan and then text to them and then they can sign right there. I know And then And then same consents and then with apex especially because we do ortho most of my in we have some patients that will pay in full and then some that do pant. I keep all my payment plans in house. I don't know if that's i mean. I haven't had any issues with it. We've been doing it really for about a year with all in house. David landow matter really what it is and we haven't really had issues a knock on wood and We get down payments. That covers are hard costs in some of it but for the most part now against pants for different things but you can add a e you can add a percentage fee to your plans having our says eighty six percent on five percents you can even customize to whatever you want you can add a fe- to your payment line. Wow that's really good really really good okay so then just just so people like you know what i mean like. They're like oh. I don't know if i should go if software. That's offer dental. Because i feel like there's so many you know what i mean like. There's so much. I've i've seen a lot of people that use flex so i you know i'm on esn. I like you'll talk me on the mic on every diesen and A lot of people in their use flex ends. I think you just have to find something that i'm sure. They play both while with open. Dental dental plays yeah dentals growing. They're doing amazing things down there. So i out. They're doing really great things. It's funny because like look on lincoln and they're like hiring so it'll pop up on things like having people great. They're always super responsive. Some things that i could do myself in their email them or me. Not that. I don't want to tell everybody lack as they do. Their villiers onto Had any issues really in stuff that we add like. I'm i'm one the to I don't know there was a big lena. Let facebook group is like people losing shit about picking gender female male or you know on dome memento. We sat down with. Drew nasa donald. They're talked to rebuff s like middle of last year in. We try to figure out like at at it. So i have like preferred pronouns on my forbes so minor male female other or non non specific and then you can select your pronouns. Says he wanna be called something else. them they like what he added that to my phone specifically. I don't know if it's on all their other platforms. I added that middle ear. So just i mean we have. We have some translations commend. You know they wanna know we wanna make sure that we pronounce. Yeah nobody. that's pretty cool. That like modesto literally catered to you like there was make this work you know right. Yeah i mean it's kind of like you know you have a patient. Legally changed their name but they can't change their in they can't change male or female on alexa jet. For whatever reason you know they wanna be So that's interesting. Okay that's cool. That's cool them. Let's go to know about dental. And i know lake right now. You said you're doing kind of the same stuff are like enhance again. As far as when it comes to marketing and advertising But you're pretty big on referrals right. So yeah that's new for this year. So that was my goal for two thousand twenty. That was for me like you know getting more outside referrals. Just to let people know that i do. You know t j steph sleeps too so you know. I can be the person that they referred to you and i'm looking. It's it's funny. Because you know what i started doing this. I've gotten referrals by general. Ns the team. Jay kinda group in you know. They have always talked about not general. Dennis typically want to refer to you if general dentistry as well. Because they don't would you take i guess because You know some of the relationships that have locally late. They're not worried about not wanting to take their patients you know. Take them anything from them. So i've actually gotten more referrals general dentists since Let people know that i do it. I'm from physicians like or Good and i brought medical billing in house this year and so just making sure that all that you know works and you know we get we get everything. Needs a goal for the sheer Get referrals get art Get all that stuff so yeah with some in a team. Jay sleep an group mastermind in so we got together when covid happened and we all got together ruined book and so we everybody publish their own version of it. And so i got my own version of a book Referrals amana infant. My version of my book so cool. Let's like we. Can we find that book. you can't. it's not for sale like is this isn't it's it's curable it's purely at you know Something that i can give my patients that has You know my name on it. That i've collaborated with it and let them know that like i have him on the front. I'm alicia but it was definitely a collaborative effort on these other. Dennis i am a request is purely to kind of give them information And they have asleep issues so we can talk about it because there's all the things that can be happening okay. So that that's what. I wanted to know like this book purely for like so. Yeah for the patients but like in the sense like what's the end goal. Just educate them. Or till i hopefully may have them. Yes to the treatment or yet. Hopefully yesterday treatment of the to the goal is do you know that could create authority for yourself as far as the patient that you're the right person that came to the right person. i mean. this is a person who spent time to write this book for you. It's purely informational for the patient. You can slip to the chapter. That talks about Issue this is what's going on. This is what's happening does that resonate with you. You can send the Look at the book sale against These are things that are happening. Because it's hard in a consul in our consulates in twenty thirty minutes but even then you don't get the full picture so you give them. They can kind of give you some feedback sam again. Gotcha gotcha so then. It's written very written. Four patients no fordham specifically. So have you seen like good. Roi from the books. Like i read this part of the book and it really resonated with me. That was hard to. It's hard to judge just like anything with just like was the beginning my patients with my phone number on them and yes the cost of publishing the book. It really wasn't as expensive as i thought it would be. Because it was kinda winners agree of any discount on staff but We changed some stuff about it. But am i didn't go into the roi which appear from our referrals to show that we're creating the value their for their patients. We wanted to understand what's going on in that. It wasn't early from lincoln. Roi which on a great way to think of it but it was more for Creating authority was patients. And then i'll give the patient a book and then i'll ask them if they have a friend or family. That has an issue is the issue. Whatever and then i give them a book to give that. I think when it comes to like building authority and relationships and like the meaningful like really really meaningful stuff. I think you're right. Like sometimes thinking too much analytical like what's the roi that hinder it right like you're not producing the meaningful stuff. You know what i mean ray. And let's see are also. everybody knows. There's nothing bad that can happen from you doing post all there's nothing but great things Super thankful about. What's the roi on that thirty minutes as calling patients are long. It takes you. You know it was at thirty minutes better. Sent doing something else productive possibly but you know it just creates our relationship with our patients in hopefuls. Different family about it. Yeah ashley you lit a light bulb in my head right now. That's changing my perfect. Okay so we'll ask questions So for anybody thinking to do like a transition. Or what would you kind of went to right minus the fire. Like what are some of the like what's some advice. You would like to give anybody thinking to do a transition or or what are some of the struggles that you want people to look out for. I think that a lot of you know all of denison. Their attitudes in her micromanaging Yes it does with you in the day. But i think you have to take care of your your teams. They can take care of your patients. my Might cena's walk up and saying they're not like amazingly compensated Stated but. I do take care of them They we either once every friday so we work three months pretty much every day. So i can get done or On fridays buy lunch. And then one of my my hijab. One dennis and my hygienist her long term boyfriend ago until i got on these lists bottles of alcohol candy lead into a little bit still. I mean i think taking care of you know taking care of the relationship with your staff in with your patients And yes you have to look at numbers and you have to look at all those things you have to take care of people to and i don't think anything can happen when do that. Yeah yeah and then would you say like definitely look at the a r whenever you're gonna do a yeah look at the. Ar echostar gives you a good idea where where the questions are in wet. You know things have gotten out of control You know people can say they produce a ridiculous amount of money but it doesn't matter you know who collected it or don't have things in place of for tappan they can be in a scaling. Every single person all getting denied that. I mean i mean. Obviously you questions in. You'll get all their tax returns and all that stuff look at it to look at. Are they if people have a ton of credit balances just a crazy amount of credits on the account is just accounts are clean. You know that they're not they're not zero things out for whatever reason there stuff on the books. I'm really look at those active addiction counselors and much more saving now about looking things that i was in two thousand sixteen. I think i don't even know win. All denison the world gowns. As whenever that happens i think i i you know. I think that was released popular that time. So i think people are much more informed about things Attention to because amnesty isn't at eight counts to do things and you put that trust in people on it just didn't work out all that great britain you learn from it. Yeah and you know what that's kind of like a good thing and a bad thing because sometimes like i'm a part of a lot of these groups to write and like the making of a demonstration up on that group and denmark society or the ground marketing one. We own those. And i see how so many times people like. Hey what color should i pick. Hey what should i do. I'm like are you making your own practice or you just like asking everybody else's opinion for their. You know what i mean like what i like. didn't realize it at the time but i had designed to help me against older like what i wanted. It looks kind of like a spaceship like now. it looks like a sterile. Spaceship didn't have in decorate. Because i didn't have won't stop but it really that my wife is a bit like it's like nineties grunge but i take a color like turquoise Accent anyways wait is that she needs me so hard for our and you're not. Here's your here now here. I would look artist. It's finally coming in and doing some success in the waiting room in canada. Back kind of balance of some of that stuff out. So that'll help with those good. That's really really good. But already ashley. Thank you so much for being with us. It was a pleasure but before we say goodbye if any of our listeners kind of went ask you any questions or reach out to you or just say what's up. Where can they find you. So i mean on any faces that you're part of just like everybody else but i mean you can email me at my last name at smitherman a. s. t. h. e. r. Dds edgy now ends. That's kind of that. You know slowly. Getting out of control expand stuff but so mainly mainly use Go too much of the tangent order. So no i appreciate it. Thank you so much for being with us It was a pleasure. And we'll hear from houston. Thank you guys. So much for tuning into that episode. And ashley thank you so much for being available and letting us get into your your whole life. I truly truly appreciate it was such a breath. Fresh air to you. So thank you so much for. Everything is like you heard actually is using mode. Bento modano can adjust and customize things to your needs. Their customer service is impeccable and modano is growing with more amazing features every single day. So if you already gotten a free demo with them. I mean think about it even a little bit more like do you want amazing customer service. I know you do so. Give them a try. I mean they're month-to-month there are no contracts and if you haven't gotten a free demo with modano go get a free demo. It's it's free and like actually said. They are super responsive and she has had zero issues nemo dental they have electronic forms and paperwork. They have an app based loyalty slash rewards program. So you can reward your patients kind of like common of like starbucks and chick-fil-a those apps were the more you go the more points you get and the more rewards you get. That's what Modano has built into their software that the patients can have and you guys can keep track of as well. Moderna also has effortless payment collections. They have dental practice marketing. And what i mean by that is they have swell review platform built in and they also have ways you can get more referrals Through modano that's awesome so if you're already have swell right and then you're thinking man i want mo- denko what you can just give them a bento and swell comes with it but it'd be better boom right or if you're thinking hey i always wanted to swell and any new review plant a new Software engagement platform communications platform boom. Just get more dental and swelled comes with it so you do that And a mode. Dental also comes with Communication portal texting. E-mailing things like that appointment reminders. Check ins and now they have added live ops. This is super recent and live ops is to manage optimize the whole appointment cycle from the moment that your patients check in to check out. I mean you can access the information relevant to each stage of the process and act on it. 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Ghislaine Maxwell

Women and Crime

52:35 min | 10 months ago

Ghislaine Maxwell

"This podcast may contain content that is graphic and disturbing in nature listener discretion is advised on August tenth two, thousand, eighteen infamous sexual offender. Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center after Epstein's death, the world and authorities began to take a closer look at his longtime female companion and alleged right hand woman. This is episode twenty, seven, the Lane Maxwell Story. Unless. Already are Megan. Before we get started on your fascinating case for the day, we have a few patrons to shout out I'm ready I. I would like to say a big hello and thank you to emily from Pflueger Ville Texas I did not know a place existed Flu Ville I. Love The name. It's right by Austin Oh. Okay. Thank. Oh. Hey, emily. Thank you. Thank you and we have Lisa Perry from Bridgewater New Jersey Bridgewater I know. Corner. Thank you. So I think we actually wrote to us as well. which is Great. I love the correspondents. Trains and then lastly, thank you so much to a Livia. Thank you a Libya. Thank you so much. All of you who support us. It means so much to us, and without further ado today's episode with Special Guest Dr Alexa Sardinia. So welcome back to women in crime everyone this week and we decided to give amy the week off. So we have a very special guest host this week to discuss the many topics related to Glenn, Maxwell. We are here joined by Alexa Sardinia Professor of Criminal Justice at California State University in Sacramento Hi Alexa. Hello Megan thank you for having me. We are psyched to have you. So for the Audience Alexis Specializes in research on sexual violence and more specifically female sex offenders, which makes her particularly apt to help us. With today's episode and we're really excited I should also tell you all. That Alexa has a wonderful new podcast which I have binged and I love, and it's called beyond fear the sex crimes podcast in which she and her co host Elissa Ackerman discuss all of the myths and realities of sexual violence in the United States. I, highly recommend this podcast. It's fabulous. Thank you. Meghan you're welcome and Elissa. We met because Elissa and I have been colleagues for a very long time but more. So we're also good friends and. So I was able to put us together, which is very exciting, new friends, new partnerships and very cool. So thank you everyone for tuning in. This'll be a special episode, and here's what I'm GonNa do today I'm going to start off. Do by telling you about Glenn Maxwell and giving you the background I'm not going to dive into every detail of lanes alleged crimes because you can get a lot of that from documentaries and other sources and because what I really want to get to, and the reason Alexis here is so we can really look at the background of Glean offending her possible motives. What kind of offenders she might be, and so that's the more important part of today's episode. Also. As a reminder, Glenn Maxwell is currently being held on with Nobel she's been arrested, but she has not been convicted of a crime yet. So when we discussed today's episode, all be referring to her. Crimes because she's not convicted. So let's get started who is Glenn Maxwell the question the world has been asking Glenn. Maxwell was born on Christmas in nineteen, sixty, one in England to. Baron Robert Maxwell. She was one of nine siblings the widely reported as favourite of her father and as evidenced by the naming of his boat, his yacht has pride prized possession, which was lady lane educated at all the top schools Glenn enjoyed a life of privilege in Oxford. But her father's childhood was quite different and I think helps a helps give us a little background to glean as well. So her father was originally born in Czechoslovakia but fled to France wants his country fell to the Nazis and he joined the British army. And it's also reported unfortunately that many of his family members died during the Holocaust indicted Auschwitz. So I did not know that part of the story neither did I until I really started digging in and I think that's super interesting Once war ended he married gallons mother Elizabeth Maxwell, and she's a French born holocaust researcher very well not. Interesting wound up getting a PhD later on in life and she's been really integral. She established a journal in the field She's she's very reputable after they got married. Let's see Maxwell bought Pergamon press. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right I hope and then more famously he bought the mirror group newspapers and that's the one everyone knows and with that purchase. He. Really became a media tycoon who rivaled Rupert Murdoch so they had like a long kind of established rivalry which was interesting I was reading about that and I guess they trying out by each other and whatnot. So know he's really up there in that way. So he's well established and he's very successful very hard worker, but then tragedy strikes Robert. Maxwell drowns in. November nineteen, ninety one he he disappeared from his yacht it was either late one night or early one morning and he was actually found by rescue searchers in the water off the canary. Coast the speculation begins there though okay. So was it. You Know How did this happen? Was it a homicide? Was it a suicide or was it an accident? So did he? Stumble, and fall off the boat or was there something more ominous going on here? was there anyone else with him on the boat at something that I didn't I when I was they had a captain there. There was crew there people there was a whole crew. Okay. I don't know how many were in the crew, but there was definitely a a small crew. So yes. It was the reason why people speculated to what was it something more ominous because it was revealed right after Maxwell's death that he had stolen millions in pension funds from his workers and he also accumulated millions in debt that nobody knew about. So people were now going Was it right? Did he accidentally fall off the boat? They say sometimes he would like go to the bathroom in the middle of the night or something off the end. So vote. Now exactly. So did he fall off the edge or did he was there a murder or was this a possible suicide because he knew this was about to be revealed? Yeah. Well, it was Glenn who addressed the media on her father's boat after his death and she told the press that she believed her father was murdered. But. This also was the downfall financially for the family. So two of his sons were later indicted on fraud charges they froze all the assets you know all the money that had a lot of money in all the money with seemingly gone. So what does d'alene to after her father's death? She was very distraught family name kind of ruined what she did Glenn, moved to the United States and to New York more specifically though, without the financial resources, she still bore than the Maxwell name. So that's what. She was well-connected. She knew people she had served as some type of ambassador in New York. So she was also familiar with New York scene. So I think it was a very easy transition for her to come to New York. So that was in nineteen, ninety-one, nineteen, ninety two, and shortly after she arrives here in Nineteen ninety-two, she met Jeffrey Epstein. And while the two dated for some time, there's was more of a longterm companionship rather than a romance as most of now know and have seen. Lane worked as a business consultant, but most of her endeavors seemed to revolve around Jeffrey. Whether she was running his household which he did she ran several of US households or coordinating his travel plans or planning social events, and then unfortunately an allegedly organizing, facilitating and participating in his sexual offending against underage females her world seems to really revolve around Epstein and I just WanNa just WanNa keep that as a point or I want people to keep that in mind actually when we're taking this apart for his part Epstein was I so I won't go into again the entire history because you can get a lot of this information elsewhere, and we'll also cite our sources at the ends who can get that. For his part Epstein was I prosecuted in two thousand, six for sexual abuse against minors though his crimes were reported to the police and the FBI by Maria farmer as early as nineteen ninety-six for an assault on her and her younger sister. Anne knew probably seen them in the news right? They're very active in the. I think I watched the documentary on Netflix's and I think that they were also featured in that I do remember the that you sisters that were or the initial people as a right and the F. B. I didn't take her seriously and it's really heartbreaking and the documentary when you hear her talk about how afraid you was and how she really changed our whole life she kinda went into hiding. She didn't have children for this reason and you realize how scared she re she. was and nobody helped her. So we have documented as early as nineteen ninety-six allegations of assault against Epstein but nothing had come from that for several years. When he was eventually prosecuted, it was in two, thousand six and many people think that he struck a very sweet deal with former US attorney and US labor. Secretary. Alex Acosta have you seen the interviews with the cost? I've seen a couple. Yeah. So okay. What happened was Epstein pleaded guilty to solicitation of prostitutes including a minor. In exchange, he registered as a sex offender. But he served just over a year in jail and he was given immunity from Federal Prosecution for almost every other charge and he was allowed to work he was allowed on work release. I mean, it was really a heart deal considering. What has crimes were. And and if you recall Alex Kosta he he stepped down when this kind of hit when the news hit and when he was he defended his actions you know saying, well, we got into registered sex offender and we felt like we got something I would disagree with that and I'm sure most people would, yes. Absolutely I was to look back to and go. Wow had they done the right thing then where I what the outcome or for so many women it could've been so much better indifferent today. I know I think of so many other. Of these high profile cases like if the initial accusers against our Kelley been taken seriously or ause e or you know in the gymnastics, a USA gymnastics in there just so many times received at again and again and another example another example unfortunately yeah. What is lanes rolled? Then a Jeffrey sexual offending let's get to that. So according to many of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein Glenn Maxwell was a scout for victims. So to speak recruiting young females to come to Epstein's home and you know give him massages the premise it always started out with. Here, and you know he just likes massages. That's the way to get people in, and while many of them said like it was weird you know d'alene had had a good way of befriending these young females she would take an interest in their art. She would take an interest in their school or their personal lives. She offered assistance in many ways and many of these these girls were young and vulnerable I mean that's One of the key things that unites them here and I think step by step Glenwood than engaged them in sexual abuse with Epstein other men in his circle But it always began like a premise of you know coming over to the house and we're interested in you, and maybe you can work for us and we can help you right accusations include activities such as Galena undressing in front of young girls, massaging them as well and having them Sasha her and on some occasions go lane is alleged to have participated in the actual sexual assault against underage females. Again, these are still accusations and still alleged. One of Epstein's most vocal victims of Virginia Roberts. Virginia Godfrey then or vice versa, she named Glenn as having facilitated sexual trafficking of her to several different men. But Glean responded with a defamation suit against Virginia claiming she was lying and defaming her good name. So what happened with that while the two later settled the civil suit. But the testimony given by Glenn in those depositions is now going to be used against her in criminal charges. So that's really going to haunt her having filed that suit against her is now going to bite her in the it it it definitely is I don't know if you saw this Alexa but some of the stuff was already leaked. Some of the documents were leaked and I mean, you know she's naming the big names some of the ones you've heard already, and now they're some explosive material, and as I understand that right now, the judge in her case ruled that it can be used at her criminal trial her. Her lawyers are still fighting it and we'll see if it's a definite. But yeah, it's GonNa hurt. It's GonNa be a big outreach. Let's put it that. 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Unfortunately for her following Epstein's death she could no longer keep herself out of the spotlight and there was a good number of years to in which I read that Glean had moved away and this this was early like in two, thousand, five, two, thousand, six that she had moved away she starting a new life she had a new boyfriend like you know getting away from Epstein but he was angry and wanted he kinda WanNa Glean to revolve her life around. He corralled her back in So she comes back in but two, thousand thirteen it seems that she she makes this break and she's starting a different life. She wasn't the spotlight a lot for over the last couple of years before the last year, she was still at public events and still being photographed and you know she visited England visited the Prince So she was still in the spotlight. A Lot. But the last year she went quiet and there's all this speculation about where did Glenn go into thousand nineteen so people were saying you know every foreign countries named and she's here she's hiding out here and so there is a lot of speculation but she was located by the FBI and they were surveilling her probably you know for quite some time they say so imagine surveilling her for the year where I, it was not. Reported where she was though speculation ran about her location, the FBI, located her and on July second two, thousand, twenty glean was arrested at her four thousand square foot plus home on over a hundred acres of property in Bradford. New Hampshire the house was purchased in cash in December two, thousand nineteen while the lame and her husband were still not sure who the husband is but it's been revealed that she's married this just came out and. I did not know this in court proceedings at her pretrial or her bail hearing or preliminary hearing whichever it was that she is married they were living fake names and under a fake story under fake guys she had. She had security just. So you know the home was literally called tucked away. That was the name of it. Sorry I thought that was a great one. You couldn't get any more. So d'alene was arrested and she was charged with multiple counts of sexual abuse and trafficking against minors inclusion. With Jeffrey Epstein, she faces up to thirty five years in prison for her alleged role. In these crimes, she is currently being held without bail. Now, that is the nutshell summary of Lane and Jeffrey Epstein, but now I'd like to it's I mean it's super interesting. I really WANNA turn to you now Alexa to engage you with some of the questions I think these are questions that other people have even though this episode is about Glenn. Maxwell. I think we need to begin with Jeffrey Epstein. Right. I think if I if you could help us discuss briefly his behavior and how you might classify him in terms of a sex offender but also help us to understand glain in her behavior and also to highlight the differences between male and female sex offenders might be a good base her yeah and so what's interesting I think about this case is that all maxwell and obscene diverge so much from the norm or what we know about most sex offenders. For, example, Epstein differs from the typical male sex offender because he's extremely wealthy, he's highly educated He has no history of substance abuse mental illness. So he's sort of hard to classify because he's simply very different than other male sex offender. Okay. It's also so they're sort of difficult to put him in any sort of type or category. But if we look at some of the motivations of male sex offenders, those are pretty consistent. So I sort of see. Him As somebody that's motivated power and control, and so we know in most instances sexual assault rape about power control, not sex more evidence in this is that he really seems like to surround himself with powerful people which I think something something that Maxwell also facilitated. It's not just having those girls. But like you said, when she got New York, she might not have had a ton of money but she had that Rolodex of important people's names that she really. Brought to the table and the relationship in terms of what I read. That's how I understood it. The last thing I was going to say is that he definitely, I think also look back on his hairier it's pretty evident. He operates with a certain level entitlement. So He's superior to other people and he deserves to have his needs met despite what happens to others or whatever impact that might happen does he fall into the groups? I've I've taught this before where? Certain pedophile differentiate based on age. So his victims all seem to be between the age of fourteen and eighteen fourteen to twenty is that was that would make him in a group of like a fiba files or any of the humidity those. Yeah. So what's difficult about using the term pedophilia is that it's really not indicative of it's just indicative of attract show So you could say that, yeah, maybe he isn't that he's attracted to young women that Wallin sue that age group but his categorization that the way I looked at it with be more based on his actions and so to me I see I would see him more as falling into the category of a rapist versus a child. Molester? And when you start to look at those different typologies there several of them, but most of them are sort of divided into types that either focus on anger power and control or humiliation, and so I do think that he would be that sort of power and control tight. You know he doesn't seem to have used any statistic violence against these victims that we know of and the anger rapist is typically trying to express some anger. That built over time I don't really see him doing that I think when you look at the totality of what we know about him, the power intial really hits in it makes perfect sense and I'm glad you thank you for distinguishing or differentiating to think there will be people who are going to use the pedophile term and not not have this background. So thank you Alexa. How does this differ from female sex offenders Epstein his typology differ. So what we know about email sex offenders that they are significantly different in certain aspects of their demographics characteristics. So they are similar to males in terms of things like age and race. And Education, and types of sex crimes they commit. So in this way, Maxwell like obscene differs from your typical under because she's wealthy highly educated. She has no history of substance use either no diagnose woman ILN. Okay But then when we look at the research that's compared male and female sex offenders. Lee. See that female sex offenders are more likely to report ignificant histories of physical abuse, emotional abuse or sexual abuse. So a lot of people who offense sexually have those histories. But what we've found is that the stories in the background that emails unders have are usually much more street females sex vendors are more likely. To report coming from a dysfunctional home to have psychological issues including suicide attempts, and they're more likely to actually have male victims Okay. So she sort of diverges there too. But really the key difference between male and females is that approximately half of all sex offenders have a co offending partner and usually need this is their partner's usually of male romantic partner and so in that way, she's very consistent with what we know about sex offenders when you say what we know about female sex offenders I just WANNA? Be Clear. I know there's research on it, but there's not much right. No, there's really not much part of the. Reason is because of the prevalence rates of the mail US sexual offending according to most sources, best gases that ten percent of sex offenders be now but there's also reason to believe that the that there are more females, sex unders out there than we know but this research is based on women who have been convicted of sexual offenses. So we have a very small sample population there to derive this information teach women and Crime, and we look at this section they always say so limited and most of what we know comes from the sort of schoolteacher conviction full. So it's you know a Michael That's not going to provide us with. Information about all the and some of the reason that there's an assumption that there are more females, sex offenders than the official number suggest have to do with the way we view women in society right? So there's there's this notion that. Female sex offenders go more easily unnoticed because they can sort of disguise their behavior in their interactions with children. So it's very normal to see a woman changing baby or bathing a baby. It's very normal to see women touching children whereas maybe the same behaviors by a man were raised in ceramics perfect sense. Yeah and so and there's also sort of connected to this this idea that we have the female sex. Teacher that kind of young and hot and has a relationship with like sixteen year old boy. You know that perpetuates notion that email sexist ending harmful. Yes and so it's not taken as seriously still on even by the criminal justice system. Sorry bringing it back to Galena and I would like to get a little bit into I. Think the question everyone wants to know what we're Gelinas motivations and you know is this typical of most female sex offenders? said in some ways she diverges, but can you talk about this aspect a little bit Washer so I actually read something interesting. I. Think it was in a vanity fair article which was described as half ex girlfriend half employees half best friend and half fixer thought was berry a very interesting way to describe her relationship I read that too on the cheese also yet it's a really great explanation that does seem to be like she filled all of these roles, right? So. Given that and given the you know that s she's definitely a person that has co founding partner like half of the no sex offenders beck categories usually further divided into male accompanied offenders and male coerce. So I believe she fall under male company because she seems to have not been abused by Epstein in any is go away and she didn't seem to fear him and those are usually the the main ways that we would distinguish between the two but I think she's motivated by the need to police. I. Think that has a lot to do with behavior when you're sharing about how she would be doing all of these things for him and sort of her life revolving around him and taking care of his properties whatever it seems like the need to cleese him was a driving or is really into all her behavior. There's also the possibility that she did want to engage in sexual acts with him in these young girls and it could have been a combination of both you know and one. Could have developed separately after you know certain that makes sense. You know it was a long period of time that she was engaging in this recruitment grooming I'm glad you brought up a grooming. This word is being used a lot and I just WanNa, make sure that we all understand what what this is. So can you explain to us what grooming splash or a grooming is basically a pre meditative heave yer that's used to manipulate a victim into compliance. So people that engage in child sexual abuse. Or rape and ease behaviors, and there's a variety of different types of grooming behaviors. But really the most common is some sort of emotional manipulation. So this can happen through talking the victim into having sex or doing in exchange for sex, and so I think that we see hurrying aging a lot of this grooming as well. When we think about how she she interacted with a lot of these girls, she tried to be friends certain victims. It seems like asking about their lives dating shopping and importantly she really acclimated them to his behavior too. So tried to put them at ease and really they you think about it from a perspective of your ear young woman you're getting advice basically from an older woman who you think you can trust about how to behave around this hour person right and she also encourage them to take money from him so he would pay for trips in school. And she would encourage at behaviors also, she definitely engaged in grooming behavior her show I felt so as well Yeah. Interestingly by this token glain engaged in grooming behaviors but do you believe that she was also groomed herself by Jeffrey Epstein both really hard to say because we don't know that much about their relationship, their private relationships right rate like every we. Can talk about people the the end but I think that in order for her to be like so able to explicitly follow his instructions on what he wanted his needs. So specifically that she would have to have been manipulated or groom in some sort of way, but I don't want that notion to diminish her responsibility or to put her in the light. Of Being Bryce, it looks like a very fine. The same thing I thought when I was asking the question and I realize I'm like I don't want anyone to misinterpret this and think that were then describing glean as a victim. It just struck me that possibly she was I think the way you said it I think he was able to manipulate her. And I think I? It sounds like that. She was. So I don't WanNa, see it. But so concerned with him that she just wanted to please him at all costs. So you know that maybe she didn't take that much through also think that she was So happy to be back in the spotlight and to have all the attention and financial resources and I think part of. Her motivation here is that she didn't WanNa lose her lifestyle again. You know she kind of had a build it back and I don't think she wanted to jeopardize that as well. Yeah, I agree. I. Agree. So I I look at it as him sort of having those finances that she lost and she had more of the contacts that he needed to be in that sort of big. Wealthy uppercrust society that they became more. I see it that way as well. One of the things that I want to ask you about is the charges here includes sexual offending, but also sexual trafficking, and sometimes these are now getting lumped together. Can you talk a little bit about the difference between offending trafficking share? So when we're talking about sex trafficking, that usually means that there's a recruitment harboring or transportation of an individual under some sort of force broader coercion and their induced to perform a commercial sex act so it does not. have to include any travel or transportation or movement across orders essentially characterized by the sexual exploitation through force fraud or coercion. Okay. So that's how you can sort of think of sex trafficking. When we talk about sexual offenses or sexual assault stepped a little bit different or example sexual assault can include things like attacks or even just threats of attacks that involve unwanted sexual contact between of Dominica Fender with or without horse on it can also include herbal threats and so a sexual assault is kind of. Term. Okay. for various you know sexual offenses. So I think that the best way for me to conceptualize the way I conceptualize what happened is at these girls were trafficked. They are also sexually assaulted some of them forcibly raped, which is another definition, but you know that bill sorta Powell within the context of all it's happening so you can consider them victims of all of these. Also, we're looking at trafficking in new in different ways now as well. So thank you for helping to clarify how we can view that and why it doesn't have to be that when we think of smuggling someone across the border, it's it's Riley a little bit. It's brought. It's not broader than that, but it's not sure how to say it but it's it's not the typical image that we have in our head right and you know just like when we think about human trafficking like it's they're very, they're more general I guess than you would presume bright the characterizations are looking for that. No problem. This is speculation here and I know we're getting into speculation on this one but. I wonder if go lane would have been this type of offender on her own if she never met Jeffrey do you think that gallon might have been an otherwise. Normal Law abiding person or would she have offended in some other way or would she have? You know it's speculation I realize. But what do you think? Well, I'm I'm honestly really curious to hear your opinion on this because. There as well and I am very, very curious to hear what you have to say I promise I'm not GonNa Change my opinion based on. Wait you said okay. So I my opinion is that if she never met Jeffrey, she probably wouldn't have been a sexual offender but I think she would have been an offender of some type because of greed and I. I, agree I don't I think he's brought out this sexual deviants in her but yeah I think we talked about her backstory, her father's and brother's proclivity you sort of sham people and the way that she lost everything that she was used to I think that she would. Ended in some other way I agree which is also interesting about sexual offenders right because sex offenders will recidivism a in many ways that are non sexual as well. Right absolutely. A lot of people don't know that actually sex offenders typically especially those complete treatment tend to recieve a at very low rates or sexual offenses and moderate to low rates for other. We'll have to see if that's going to apply to lane we'll. We'll get to that in a minute, right So. Because we are criminologist I wanted to briefly discuss possible criminological theories that might also explain glades behavior because I immediately not sure what you think but I immediately think of Control Balance Theory by Charles tiddle on okay for anyone who doesn't know control balance theory Charles tiddle said that when people have a control deficit or they don't have enough control over their lives they will offend and if people have a control surplus meaning they have way too much power control to exercise they will also offend but they're going to offend in different ways so people with the deficit are going to offend in like This might explain actual maybe explained rape when people are trying to exert their power over someone because they feel powerless I'm not sure I but crimes that they're trying to you know exert a certain amount of power gain their power back. But the surplus part is where people are committing crimes of greed because they have oversight and because why not they can. So this is the theory that I think of, and especially when you started talking about the power and control does this. Or their other series that you think fit with. Either Jeffrey or Glens behavior so I hadn't initially thought about Info, balanced theory because it doesn't really come up much when we talk about sexual theories of sexual offending, which is interesting because I can see logically how that would make sense. But for me I think the best explanation in we have to be really careful because they are different Erie's based on the sex of the offender. So theoretically speaking female sex unders would require different explanations for their behavior but what comes to mind a lot for me are as this idea of cognitive distortions view give me a second I will connect that to a motor criminological theory. Okay. But anyways for those of you don't know cognitive distortions are these irrational odds that distort our perception of reality and so we all have them but they do play. A significant role in perpetuating our psychological state. So these are off in patterns that are automatic and can be hard to identify. You're not aware of them. So some common ones that everybody engages in our if I fail at something, I'm a loser I can never do anything right so many sex offenders use the east to justify an excuse their behavior off, and so they minimize or deny the damage caused victims, minimize the violence used in their offense. So I raped your but I didn't hurt her I already know what theory you're going to link this to just say no. Denying responsibility for the offense the she was asking for it or she's. Denying Planning and the last is entitlement. So that idea that people some people are superior to others and deserve to have their needs met. So I think that entitlement distortion will be something that applies to obscene maxwell. So Megan in theoretical terms, this is the added techniques of neutralization Yeah Martha. A situational excuses that allow an offender do engage in behavior with by but relieve the them of the guilt. Absolutely. So bees have really been well documented in male rapists and Sexual abusers, right so Careful because although there documents it amongst female sex offenders. We don't have that much much research to support it right understood. So yes. So it there's a sense that it. Sort of same rules apply What was interesting is to me is that when the entitlement component was identified and female sex offenders, they didn't reference the self is being entitled. They referenced their male co offender is the entitled. Understanding I. Yeah. I thought that was very interesting and very telling in in this case is well, how okay that makes sense techniques of neutralization. Okay. That makes sense to me too I'm seeing both I am seeing your point of view now. On. A on a last note here I want to briefly discuss even though we don't know what's going to happen right now to lane in the criminal justice system. But I'd like to maybe discuss what we think amy and I usually do this we end up what we think is appropriate like what should the criminal justice system do with Glenn Maxwell on? So would she benefit from punishment would she benefit from rehabilitation? More what do you think is is appropriate here. Let's. I think it's so complicated when we see somebody benefit from going to prison because I'm just I don't know. I'm anti cursory. So I find that hard to say however in this case especially because. Is. No, longer around to the held accountable I do feel that it's appropriate for her to send some sort of time you know fulfilling a prison sentence of course I do also think though that a treatment sex offender treatment program is necessary for her I. It's important. Would it work if we that's a good question so it really if she is To understand an sort of empathize with the harm that she's caused it can work and people can learn to do that for the most part far. She's not really showing any signs of being held account like taking out ability or hold yourself responsible. So you know I think that she needs a lot of treatment and a lot of treatment arrived focuses on her relationship with males in her life like How did she get caught up in this relationship? How does she avoid that in the future I? Mean I know she's like inner fifties now she's fifty. So you know she might not get it out till. She's a lot over were assuming she's GonNa, go to prison Versi -nificant period but she needs to understand what led up to this happening and why her behavior why she let her behaviors sort of gets out of Control I. Just I do have faith in some sort of treatment and rehabilitation I'm I'm glad to hear that actually you know I was i. was, thinking about this myself I like to think about you know how people are worried that she's gonNA strike sweet plea deal and she's not going to serve any time I actually don't believe that's going to happen I. Believe chargers are so significant and there's people really want justice especially after Epstein's death. So I believe Glenn Maxwell is going to serve serious prison time and I believe it's deserved however that. Being said if she is going to get out at any point I, definitely would like to see her have some type of rehabilitative programs and whether you know it's treatment whether it's therapy whatever it is I'd like to see her be able to manage and I think you said it really well or figure out these her behavior and figure out how it step where it came from and maybe work on as. You said changing her relationship or dynamic with the men in her life ain't. That's really important. Yeah, and that ends up you know what's also interesting is there's currently no treatment model specifically for sex offenders based on a model like that's how a new we still how. So even though we know the need for like gender responsive programming or female offenders and all that stuff that has not made it over yet. To focus on sex offenders but the proposed programs all say that you need to work on if there's a call offender with what was at co-funding relationship, then the other significant part would be history of trauma. So the death of her other thing played a role in shaping her relationships with men and you know she may have never dealt with that trauma, and if she truly believes her father was murdered that's you know that would weigh on you psychologically. So I would be hopeful that if she got that treatment, she'd eventually able to say this is what I did and I'm sorry for it and I'm taking steps to make sure it didn't happen s case scenario. I agree with you, Alexei appreciate that point of view and Let's hope that Glenn Maxwell can take responsibility and hopefully her victims will get the justice they deserve. Thank you again Alexa for being with us I would like you just to remind everyone the name of your podcast in your platform so where they can find it share. So we are beyond fear, the sex crimes podcasts, and my co-host Eliza Ackerman and I talk about realities thou- actual violence and you can find us on spotify odd cast. We will odd cast stitcher basically any place yet your podcasting wonderful. I'm sure people are going to be really interested to check it out again. It's fabulous. So thank you so much. Thank you women in crime listeners and We'll see you next time on women a crime i. Megan. Thank you for an amazing episodes usual. Now, our favorite part, we get to our patron questions no problem. On Yeah. All right. You WanNa read us off the first one. Sure. So the first one is from Allie Hi Allie I-. Alley, the question is when they've researched a particularly gruesome case, what do they do to get to a happier more positive place? I'd be interested in hearing from both amy and Meghan given the state of things today and the challenges we're. Facing I think it might be helpful for listeners to hear how two people who deal with some of the most devastating aspects of human nature cope what a cool question. That's a great question you want to take that one I I have a feeling. Our answers will be similar here Can I say wine and my puppy? You can absolutely on your puppy I have to be honest somehow I do a decent job compartmentalizing what we do I also even though I'm a pessimistic person I am somewhat hopeful for the justice system somehow somewhere I guess from working with offenders and just seeing. Howard. Dean. Mobile people are it just gives you like a sense of hope. So I think maybe I am one of the lucky ones who works in the field that. I don't feel that I need to cope per se exactly. But having a helps seventy I'm blonde from Marlborough new. Zealand. Helps I know I actually agree with you right answers the same I don't usually feel like I need to cope. In fact I feel almost like invigorated by some of these cases even though they are hard sometimes in their devastating I'm also like well, what can we do? Let's talk. About it. Let's let's figure it out. How do we make this better? So I feel like it actually motivates me more. So there have been a few cases that I did find very difficult. I think I told you Chande share was so hard and honestly there's really not much do but you know what I mean for that one I mean I even cried on that one and then I moved. Past it and they worked on the next one. Yeah. For the most part, I feel inspired to keep working harder to make the system better. I also wanted to add that a lot of these cases are so gruesome and such awful things happen. But somehow there's always a light part of it whether it be a new victim advocacy organization or there's some there's something there's usually something good that comes. Yes and even if it's a new, a new legislation passed change something that we were doing wrong or you know that led tooth. So that kind of helps as well. All? Right. Then we have a question from saga and wait till. You hear about where Saga Libs. Okay. She's awesome I grew up in Sweden and had been living the last couple of years in. Tokyo. Japan. Love it. Awesome. Japan is considered a very safe country to live in but living there has also made me very curious about the justice systems in different countries and crime within different cultures and how it all differs between them. As criminologists have you come across anything that relates to female victims. Or female offenders and other countries that you think the US could learn from or even implement in its own justice system. Yes. Yes and Yeah Oh my God. Yes we do. It works like we do it the worst out of everyone agreed Megan and I had the opportunity to take students with us over to the UK. We taught a class on comparative Justice Systems and I won't steal all of it. I'll let you talk a little bit but I do want to talk about the different in prisons. Are Students to court police facilities, but taking our students to a prison in new, jersey, and then taking a prison outside of London. Wow. You just really see how we do not know what we're doing well, they they're very humanizing there. There are programs for rehabilitation. You can physically see to that people are working there taking pride in their they drove some of their own food I. Think we've definitely seen our prisons are are among the worst they really are and with female victims I I'm sorry I cut you off amy bill I'll just say that I think what? We should be doing better is really focusing on rehabilitation medical needs. Absolutely, we do not do that enough mental health needs, and especially we still we're doing it a little bit more now but treating a lot of these women as victims and not offenders because most of them have been seriously victimized I think that especially she mentioned she is from Sweden and we know that Sweden has one of the best systems I don't know exactly the numbers, but I know their recidivism rate is very small compared to ours everyone's recidivism right small compared to ours but I know that. They're doing things really well, we also criminalize crimes committed by women for survival purposes here, and we make them bad women, per se and that's something we really need to reshape our focus and how we're dealing and and not criminalizing but helping and talking about everyone not just women the way we criminalise drug use, of course, our sentencing, our all of our policies. Punitive. We could go on and on for hours. And then lastly, we have Jamila, who has a gorgeous name love it out of all the cases that you've both studied, which case either fascinates or boggles you to the most two cases I am fascinated with and just can't get enough of our Darlie routier. Now, we hear you on that one. Aaron Hernandez obviously she says, I know he's not a woman but still, yes, Aaron. Hernandez case is quite fascinating. Fascinated with his only because I understand like I get it. So I'm more fascinated cases that I don't know the outcome are can't you know what I mean? Yes. So I was interested I loved the documentary but Yeah Darlie routier I'm obviously a covered it. What else? Amy Who else for you L. for me? I don't want to spoil it too much because we have an upcoming episode, but I have to say Cindy James One of the most boggling watts's the most boggling cases. Of course, there's the cases of Natalie Holloway in Jon Benet and I could go on and on about cases but I'm going to have to say if I had to pick one right now it is Cindy James What about you still I'm GonNa. Go Jon Benet always Melanie McGuire because on it solve this and Martha Moxley, which is when I forget to mention guess what happened to Martha Moxley I cover that also in an episode and I coming up. So those are the ones stay with me great and as always please send us your case suggestions. We get some of our best ones from you all. Thank you. Thank you. Again, we love the questions. Women in crime is written and hosted by Nagin. Sacks and. Our producer and editor is James Varga. 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Mindless Midnight with Psychic Medium Jonna Kay

"Welcome ladies and gentlemen the host of the mindless midnight. Show would like to welcome you to the latest episode full of late nights. Humor as we explore. Just anything with our very special guest without further ado carrier host. They can josh. Some content with this podcast. Maybe this pocket. We ain't commonsense included children unless Hello everybody welcome to another edition of the mindless midnight. Show and we have a special guest today. Her name is jonna and she is here to hang out with for a little bit. How are you doing today. Fantastic it is awesome to have you here at a yes. It is so for those of you who are listening. And don't know who john is. Jonah would you like to tell us a little bit about yourself. I am a psychic media. I'm and i have been working professionally for about twenty years. 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Oh over twenty years that used to go in studio and local stations. and you take. My baby took my daughter. Who's twenty two. She was in diapers. The first time. I did radio all waving. So so you'll be able to tell how terrible we are. No deejays always worry about me. Because they know how i am in their lake. You can't swear o'hare and i'm like oh hey don't worry about me. Get ready for the dump button. I don't know what's going to happen that that is awesome. Yeah wonderful so You were you born and raised in wisconsin. I'm on the illinois state line. So i am right on that line. Wisconsin a base here for sure never left like oh that's awesome so reasons to go to like illinois like any way so in illinois like i'm in illinois all the time and you know pots legal. They are now out of cool cool. Yeah i'd minutes away from me. Wow man that is i never. I never thought about like the people that are on the border of the states. But they pretty much like to go. Yeah that is cool. That is cool. I never thought about that illinois. Got a big border. Yeah yeah that's amazing. Well yeah texas really needs to get it together. I mean come on but you know they probably coming around little by little little by the last time is in texas was nine hundred eighty two probably before you were born and i was in bryan county drink. I can live in a place like that. I heard that those existed. Like when i was twenty one and i was like well who wants to live there no kentucky a couple years ago i was in a dry county. Yeah i've gotten to some illegal bootleg and you got to make your own moonshine and so. I imagine that they make more math than moonshine. Everyone likes to party differently. No wonderful so as far as being a comedian. How did it start. Like your have dramatic story. I was obsessed with this always obsessed with it as a hairdresser on. I could always feel energy. Like an impact can appeals energy from other people. None nine. I went through a horrible experience with losing a child and going through a deep deep deep horrible grief and coming out the other side in a spiritual awakening irritable awakening other sudden. I was picking stuff up. Wow that's insane really sorry to hear about your loss. Yeah i am shoe five. And i've come to terms would never put me where i am and i believe sometimes you just have to go through certain things and my goal was always to help others. Wow so i knew. I couldn't come out of grief until i was able to help other people well and it's to the point now where you're helping people in ways that they never thought ever like they can you know. That's that's incredible so especially that being something. That was your goal before. I want to help people however i can and then you experienced trauma in a in a terrible way but then you come out of it and you're able to do that in ways that not many people can like. That's that's amazing. I have been still blessed. And i took this little hobby that went insane and when they ended up on the radio it was like within a year of starting to do readings. They put me on the radio ahead into my little boutique and she's like what are you doing back there in that little backroom equality readings when it's slow and icy clients here and she's like why would like to be nags and enter down at my desk skin reading and she says i want to put you on the radio tomorrow night. Oh yeah and that's probably a whole mind-blowing experience getting brought into something. That's that's so large like that. I mean i started on a little local station a town over and years ago. I didn't interview with jenny hutt on on sirius radio so it like yeah. It was really cool. So what are your emotions when you realize you had disability give. It's really euphoric. I can't even explain like just to be able to help people and do what i do and make money. I mean i'm not gonna lie him business person so the money absolutely. Yeah it was like this is validating you know it was just really cool to be able to have transformed people from their grief into something. Were there okay. you know. it's it's almost like it's almost like certain people are selected somehow via universe or something because even before you went through what you went through you were you said you were experiencing like energies from certain people. Just really explain. It's almost like you were predestined for this. To happen somehow That's that's amazing that when you don't understand that you're an path you just feel like you're crazy 'cause you'll be pick up their crap and then yeah rank somebody else and you pick up their crap and it's just like mood shifts and crazy odd. Yeah i round yourself in control it at that point and you just feel there. Yeah i wonder. I wonder how many people out there have this. And they just don't know and they think that they're just there you know maybe they're taking medications and stuff to try to cope really if they accepted it. Maybe they would be into. Some grander like spiritual awakening essentially absence. That's interesting to think about. You know teach this to. I actually have a facebook group where i teach Get people to the point where they can do. A little bit of readings in wile. That's amazing so there isn't a way to talk right. Yeah so that. So life changing for sure. Yeah i mean i. It puts literally everything you've ever known into perspective as far as what is possible in what you know. Basically almost anything is at that point when you get to. When you get to that you know. I took a little hobby that i thought i could never really make this into a business because i have no right off than i have no exemptions and like abbie into business and when i did make it into a business it was amazing because all audiences of fifty anna hundred people. Wow is really incredible. That's intimidating for me. Yeah right like like with me josh. You know we. We've got listeners than stuff. But it's like whenever we're doing the show we don't see everybody so we're just doing our crap but to be in front of all those people and and you don't know what they're thinking essentially essentially that you know they might think terrible things about what you're doing or whatever and it's like to be able to just do it regardless is awesome. People could do that even with that type of gift. You still have to have the presence to be able to do it. You know and yeah. This is not a profession. If you need approval on 'cause you don't get approval from everybody for those pats on the back of that kind of approval you're not gonna make it Totally makes sense absolutely. Yeah what one thing i want to ask. Is it something that you can like. Time offers something. That's just always there absolutely. I have like before. I read for client at ground myself. I opened up my energy to them. I energy and but if i'm out having a drink or having dinner and somebody comes up to me and they're like oh my god you're the lady who does readings and like i'm drinking right out there. Yeah yeah thanks them. Stop myself from opening up to them. Yeah wow and. I've heard this before Guide years ago over a decade ago. I i'm thirty and so when i was like seventeen. I had heard that mediums. Can i if somebody needs you. And they're toxic. It can automatically make you feel terrible. I guess would be the way or or they. You know his emphasis like they feel. Okay yeah okay. Yeah pass taxes energy. I think why walked into a house like have you bought a house ever. Have you like lie. I have not even when you do. We'll get to that when you start walking through houses houses. Have that same. Like you'll see feel energy in one house to another and that's what i really. When we bought our first house i was like oh my god. Every house has a different feeling. You're easy to pick up on because you're surrounded by the energy. That sounds like a really good way to train into this like a good like maybe first step really. I mean i would say. I like meditation and grounding yourself and stuff but then going to different locations that just being able to feel the area. That's that sounds like good training. Oh absolutely absolutely. Yeah so like it in your your terms or definition how would you define a medium while i connect people who've crossover but i also ricard's and can tell you a little bit about the future. We'll get into the hosting amazing. Nick knows your future. She knows what how sure about the turns out. It was a murder house. God okay so what does it mean to you to to be medium aside from flake being that that person that can really bring some peace of mind to other people like to you. Personally i mean. I guess that's the best way i can work on. I mean it was never a choice. It was never a choice once. I kind of opened it out to it. It was so. I don't know just a life changing kind of saying that it was a path i started walking down. I couldn't turn around. And so i i meet other mediums like yeah. I had to quit doing readings. I'm like oh my god. I would never quit doing readings. Like it's kimmy. I'll be anybody eight years old and in the nursing home with dementia out. Yeah i i. I feel like i would too with with that because yeah being able to do that as definitely not common so so. Why y y try to give it up. I feel like it would be. It would be impossible to give it up your phone again. Every time. I do a podcast. The old man's phone goes off today. I i've been getting getting a lot of those alerts today as well is i heard what it was but yeah it's all good no problem. I'm like you know on zoom shit. It's it's the universe telling telling you that like the show that you're on isn't really exciting. Have more fun with like the mail. Based shows like this or yeah. I'd have more fun with just like hanging out with the guys like it's been really. Yeah we're was. It's i feel like we don't take ourselves seriously. And i'm not saying that the women do obviously of course not but i'm saying that we're just i guess we just don't i mean this guy has the same shirt on almost every episode. We don't care what happened. I wear the same shirt. Every single delirious so facebook live amp to really watch myself with that because you know and i'm like oh my god. I can't wear the shirt i just we. We don't care. I've always we out. People will either listen and laugh or they want and then they won't know how great it is to laugh so lost on all right. I'm not your typical medium. Who runs around going. You know like. I'm the museum who spirits who drinks. Who has find who does that. Kick myself this seriously. Honestly fun profession. I think you have fun profession. It sounds fun it does. It does and i feel like that's like that makes you more genuine. Because you know what it is you know what you you're already set you've got it. You're down you exactly exactly. That's exactly where i was going with it. That's perfect it. I'll do what i want. And this is what i wanna do and i'm underdo this and if you don't like it that's you i mean you're supposed to attract just like you guys with your show you're going to attract the audience you're supposed to attract exactly yes. Hopefully people that are just flooding. The comments you guys suck and being with josh living in florida there would be so much fun new stories to talk about what any any day that we can pull up a florida story for sure is got something to talk about. It's insane. I don't know what y'all are doing in florida josh. But man it's something in the water or maybe the and it's because florida has healing energies. It truly like whatever you go to florida. You feel good really honestly. I've lived here almost all my life. And i've always pretty terrible here. Weird orlando the heart of town. Orlando the energy sucks ass. The you go down like along the way and you feel good okay. You'll have to do that eventually. Cove it as like my favorite part of florida. I mean i love the gulf coast with the a one a drive down. You have a drink somewhere. Keepdriving sit on the beach like it's just so chill. I enjoy going to saint augustine like that. Place is very pretty. I like the history there too right. But that's what i'm saying on the edges of florida like that you get the ocean and you could that healing energy that is you go and it feels pretty. It feels nice. You're calm so i do believe that. Florida attracts people. Who need that healing energy but sometimes get healed. A tourist orlando have ruined. It sure. that's what i'm saying. Orlando makes me crazy because edging like if i go down to fort myers and cape coral like. That's so chill. Nobody's like you're just hanging out by yourself whole different energy. Yeah i could see that. I mean what taxes excess energy anywhere is better than orlando. I'd imagine like somebody says let's go to florida and usually until they orlando barnaby helps. You should go to kasa data. That's only like an hour away from you. Either thinker two hours away so funny like you mentioned that because my my wife brought up to me so my my wife's grandma is a medium or medium who. I don't know too much about her grandma side of the story My wife can actually like see people that she she says her dead. Obviously there's nobody there in my eyes But she tries to ignore them. She doesn't wanna yes she doesn't want to interact with the nose like she's she's nervous about it so she doesn't so i don't really know too much about any really but we've talked about going there in she She's very skeptical. Because she doesn't want. She says she doesn't want to bring bad spirits home or had them follow us. It's actually spiritualist camp. So the people who do readings their spiritualists which is what. I kind of line myself in that area. But i don't like to call myself anything but you know they believe in god and they believe in white light and they're not doing anything dirk and so. Yeah i mean you might run into a gaiter in this wa over. There is a new demand. Yeah on most of the readers. They're really genuine and kind people. I i hear that a lot of them are very nice. I do also hear though like a lot of them will like be really like angered by you being there. If like i guess more. So i think it's like the group of kids that go in try to like have fun with it and they don't really take it too seriously. Maybe how if everybody else. A bad rep. So when they see younger folk there they kind of look down on them. So i i had never went as as a younger person on initially i wanted. I mean when you go. It's like any other spiritualist. Camp except years is year round during florida up here. They're only open in the warm weather. And you know you walk in and you choose your reader and you go sit in their cabin and you get a reading. If you're i mean. I am not going to tolerate anybody. Who's there to mess with me. You know you're meeting. I would be like you're eighty six out of here. Yeah i can see you doing that so you you reader go to other readers just to like control a little bit like now. You're ross. I would never do that And i don't really get readings anymore more often. It's really hard to. I feel like i don't feel like i have anything i need to resolve at this point my life so place to be out for sure is my dead people. Come to me my dreams. Like i'm good so but i used to love to go get readings leg back in the day before i was towing sure that makes sense. I mean i would be interested but ski area. You know what i mean. 'cause that's just the thing you the future somebody being able to give you like a glimpse it's like what if they just see that. I like right away. Here's the cool. Thing is when i was like twenty thirty years old. We didn't have social media. All we had was like to go to a psychic bear and sit down with somebody that we didn't know or we'd hear about somebody but now is social media. You can watch a reader on facebook. Live so crazy to me. I don't know it to me. It's 'cause you say something. That kinda like manifests off energy in like it's crazy that you can sense energy from light a video. That's pretty that that's another taking calls on the radio twenty years ago. Yeah sure yeah. I mean that's how i was trained so doing video like it's so that's easy while if you couldn't like your own way explain exactly how the ability is for you like. Do you see pink figures or like into another dimension or something. Okay yeah no. It's not like that at all. When i tune into your energy. I turn on my senses to see here field. Smell taste that kind of thing and so like right. Now as i'm talking to you i feel there's older gentleman who makes me feel like he had us at the jail issues heartburn issues or something going on right here. It could even be ordered to act because short of breath. So i feel. Do you have an uncle. It past talking to me or josh josh I don't have an uncle that passed. I have a great grandfather. But i don't really remember his his generation above you so i can just feel like the stretch. I know this sounds funny. But i feel like a stretch of one generation. So that as i tune into you. It's like i feel things and then things will come to me in the way that you get a song stuck in your head so you know that voice or that year that you have when you get song stuck in your head. It's not near real ear. It's is that makes sense your names in. I hear certain things i'm supposed to say. And then okay. You guys are young. So the example. I usually give people is. What do you see in your head when i say the brady bunch. Black and white. Qb's all the squares faces aalyah response. I needed to hear his the squares in had. That's how i see. People from the other side is how you just visualize those squares. Why is that make sense. Yes so yeah does do use them like this was a listener's question. By the way do you see them as they were when they had passed away or as wannabe see sometimes is they wanna be seen and sometimes they were when they passed away. It depends on how they're trying to describe to me so sometimes hospital bed or they will show me like the end of their life stuff. So that i understand that. Wow incredible josh. I gotta go back to. This is your dad is still here correct. Yeah does he ever very close friend who passed away Not to my knowledge. See and that's the thing is it could be somebody that you're not even acquainted with like like. Oh and here's here's a question like let's say let's say you're speaking to someone who was adopted. So they didn't know their biological parents would have their biological parent so then you're saying things about them. That are true but they don't know that happened on another podcast. I won't say the name of inquiry actually now that you mentioned that nate. I'm not thinking of that. I i have a biological dad and adad act. So i don't look i don. Some people have recently the name dentists or dan or debt. I do. Dan was that too. That was my uncle's best friend and he passed. Yeah he was like an uncle to me as a young kid. That's what i'm saying. It was only one generation above you. It's just through here. Was there something through here going on with him. He had passed from a car accident. I don't know if he had any kind of medical issues like right here to. Maybe there was some crushing or saw. Yeah yeah so he comes forward for. You is a just tune into kind of what's going on with you. And i knew i was hearing like the next or something like that. So it's not always as clear as at corpus into we kinda ballad data. I mean it's clearer. Than i mean i think my stomach just like went out of my ass off a row and that was a tricky one too because she was picking up on stuff and you weren't even divulging all the no no not at all. Hey it's kind of fun when we kind of go back and forth because the minute you would start talking. I pick more rations firm. josh sometimes. Those iranians actually are helpful. I know that somehow well that makes sense it away. Because i'm i'm actually a plumber. Also construction and remodel plumbing. And so. If i'm fighting with something or struggling with something and i leave it and i come back. Get a break at the van. I come back in. And i'm like boat so i can understand that that working through it like that. It's almost like the little interruption. Brings it just boom right to you. Yes yes how you try and bring plumbing everything. Don't try us. i do the number one. Man the number to relate to everything doesn't it relate to everything de energy and everything else it all has to flow and once. They were or leaking. There is a problem that's indirectly. Yeah exactly see josh. It's totally validated You you're just totally blowing his head upright. Now i love you i love. He's gonna go to work tomorrow. So i'm spiritually flowing these today. Yeah i do have you ever. Have you ever felt like threatened by a spirit or or or felt like you might get hurt some way. Well there's a difference between paranormal and spiritual of what i do. Is i work in the spiritual on. I work in god's arms network in the light. Paranormal does exist. Yeah i don't blame you. I wouldn't want to either so building have winded by the building. Two thousand four two thousand three thousand two early two thousand and i was really good friends with the ghost hunter out of ohio and i was taking pictures of the building and i sent it to him and he's like you gotta evil clown in the reflection of that picture. Oh god really. I looked at it and i'm like no kidding so i started paying attention and i realized things were moving around and i was hearing noises and there is a lot going on in that building. Am i ex husband. At the time we were still married. And he's like. I feel like something's always watching me when i'm in their late at night. Working on the apartments above and yeah and i had little shop downstairs in the store. Part and i had a boutique and hangars would fly across the room and eight o'clock behind me and it would fly across the room and it was crazy energy and i would move in like normal people into these apartments and they would turn into crackheads and my are anyway and i still swear that that that building like would cause horrible energy and i tried to sage agents agents agent just could not get rid of this energy in this building and i ended up separating from my ex husband and moving in upstairs and we saw shit levitating that upstairs apartment. That apartment was. We're whatever that seoul was. Oh my god the worst way. Oh my god not meant to keep that building at all. No absolutely and i do have a question i want to ask. But we're going to take a very short quick little break guys and then we're going to jump right back in and i'm going to ask john question that i think is pretty interesting so hold on. Just one second guys spending on having to do okay. We are back from our break. And i was going to ask jonah. A question. And i was going to start out by saying you've seen so much crazy stuff as far as limitations and things flying off. The walls are things that i've never seen things that i don't think josh has ever seen. I'm pretty sure i heard about it. Thanks i hope. I don't ever see absolutely. Do you think it's the reason why you see these things that not everybody gets to see. Is it do you think that there's some indication that they being whatever they is no that you have what you have and you're almost targeted. I think i was attracted to that building because of that. Remember when i talked about energy buildings. And i almost feel like the energy. I do believe that that was like an elementary in that building that had a conscious awareness there was like it was very creepy and i really feel like it. Tricked me like it was like. I'll be good. I'll play nice. I'm gonna make you love my building. Then once i got the building it got ugly and it was so you had mentioned like their spiritual and then there's paranormal so spiritual is like the really bad or really good on. The paranormal is like the really bad scary. So i mean spiritually stay makes you feel warm and fuzzy like when you just heard from your uncles friend guy we brought through. It didn't make you feel creeped out. Just just a little will almost like a weird hug. You weren't expecting yeah. Yeah paranormal is when you get like the chills and you're like oh it was the that doesn't feel playing the difference because people wanna bring the two together and make it all the same and it's not at all no definitely not so another question that i have is if if somebody was a true piece of shit and they house away and they and they passed away and you essentially bring them back to in a way does it. Does it go wrong. Like i mean i or do people change one. Crossover a do that. The other side they have to sit through life. Reveal in life review is like watching a movie of your life and you have to feel everything you made other people feel so if you made other you've got to feel it so you wanna changing in that life review of your own soul and then you become very forgiving and then you rewrite contracts with the people that you've harmed or hurt so that you are the person who feels that in your next lifetime. Wow so josh you have a lot of fucking work to do an hall my god. Why much screwed from here on. I'm not looking forward to that review. No about that later. View definitely changes how you treat people. Yeah absolutely so. I had another question. I lost it. Damn shitty shitty people What is a city person now. I'm clink so somebody that that that does all of these terrible things and then have you have you actually you. So you've probably been able to change people like in a day just by speaking with somebody and then somebody else's there and you're you're bringing all of this stuff into the light essentially. I bet you'd like change people's personas. You know what happens. A lot. Is i will get somebody who was really angry. Say at their father. They been pissed off adam for years. He's dead and they come and of course he's the first person who wants to come through my god. They're like i don't want to hear from him. I don't want to hear from him. And i'm like well too bad choice. Yeah you have to hear from him. Or i won't be able to bring other people and he has a purpose and a need to come through and it helps people come to terms. Once they understand life review in the he had to sit there and feel everything and he's aware now of what you don't really get an apology. But you get validation of what he did so to speak. Sure yeah you. Yeah you get whether you were looking for it or not. You get a sense of that closure. Yeah so that's really kind of you know. I've seen people's whole attitudes change and then a sense of forgiveness. Come over them for our the belt for so long us crazy. And then that's gonna make their life changed like so more people need to know about this like goodness you know what i mean like if this was like some sort of feel like a lot of people really about those types of things writes absolutely and there's no reason for that there really isn't it's it's era when you have those moments so i'm assuming you probably get regulars that come in and and i don't mean that because then it's almost like you're helping them with their life kind of the past our stronger not like like meeting to try to that makes sense that makes sense so so it seems like like if there's somebody that that that passes away and they they had a lot left to say to somebody. Do you get like reached out by. Randoms are no. I don't do random at all. Yeah like i said. I need the person's permission to read for them. Right right right right into need to ground at need to protect myself anchor. I don't walk through the grocery store and do random house that because that could actually and under speaking as an idiot that could maybe possibly bring on something. that's more paranormal and harmful looks desperate. Lake coming after twenty years of doing this. I'm not going to be like let's go read rondos at the grocery store through totally understand. I mean it reeks a desperation. It reeks trying to be like somebody on tv off. We all have our own style and you have to embrace your own style. Yeah well and your your style comes off as very warm and helpful and not like grab. Somebody's arm at the store and the isle. I need to tell you something. I mean not just that too but like i mean honestly like i'm sure when people Picture medium they like think like the old craggy lady with the crystal ball or something crazy that on tv. But i mean and that's fine but at least like the person behind these. You're definitely real person you you see genuine like love. I mean i have crystal table. And i do have beaded curtains. And i have a lotta hippy. Kind of stuff in my studio if it works. It's just more agree a nod and a wink at what people expect to see. Okay okay so tiki bar and oh yeah. We'll table in so like you know that's awesome. All spirits are going to hang so the so the crystal ball doesn't have a purpose. It's more of an aesthetic or is there. You know it's my son. Bought it for me for christmas table. I don't gaze into. I don't like it grew. No just because it's really beautiful and my me and i love it. So it's their own. Never used it and they don't read poems like some gypsy shit that i don't do that makes sense so So there's like different types of like psychic said so like you say gypsy should like as if like the of psychics gypsies. They're the ones who will like dua. Brando thing okay Okay well get you to come to them. And then they'll they'll find your weeks by and they'll be like oh the girl who got away and then they'll be like verified hundred dollars. We can get her back and they'll have things coming back every week and paying them arrival. That's why they have such a bad reputation concerned glacier gypsy if i tried. I don't wanna try. Oh that's like that's like straight up like light side dark side in a way of the business world of of of doing that. I mean bad business for sure And that's why there's stigma on on this because wow they've ruined it. Ruined it because you're doing well. But i mean movies and tv ruined a lot of it. I think now do not helpful. I mean so think about. Caputo theresa caputo long island medium. Yeah yeah so we've had producers talked about reality. Tv at different times in my family and things like that and obviously they don't think i'm interesting enough so that's fine but my thing is when i talked to him i'm like i don't wanna do random on the street and they're like well she does not because those people have to sign a contract before they're filmed or they can negotiate for more money. I know i sorry guys. Everybody who's listening. I just malusis toward. Hey that's good i. I don't like you said i don't want that. But it's like you can't be on a reality tv show without a contract. I couldn't go. Sit in the oprah winfrey studio without signing a contract. I mean if you've ever gone to a show like that you have to sign all kinds of shed and blah blah blah blah so. Yeah you can't just like be picked on tv in a produced show right. Yeah okay yeah. 'cause yeah i mean that makes a of sense because everything in the business world is cover your ass and yes. That's how that's how you do it. So dang that's amazing so you can't walk into to shop in just saying to review and the camera crews follow that happens. Yeah definitely not that which makes sense which makes sense backtrack just sort of it. Actually i had When you had said blake when they talk to their what would you talk to the women. They don't wanna talk to their dad. You say but you have to talk to them or anyone. No one else can come through right cat black the door really so so like for lack of better words analogy. It's kinda like a ticketing that one person has to go through finish their their business and a lot of times. This is always interesting. Like i had a woman who lost her husband and her mom came through. I and she's like a like. Don't waste my time with my mom. I'll talk to her now. And i'm like no mom's coming through bringing through that. The reason mom was coming through is to say. Look i have your husband with me and mothering him from the other side do you. At the door and be like come through me first. 'cause i got yeah yes. Wow that happens all the time out. See look at disappointment. As i'm bringing the first person through for and they're like oh shit know. I can't fathom that like i dunno. People may somewhere towards somebody that on the other side like. There's a lot of people who are angry with i. They want them to apologize because they didn't give them what they thought they deserved. In the will do homage that again. I would say. I was about to say right now. My my grandmother and my grandmother sister have been fighting for years about their sisters and they will not talk. They will not talk yeah. They thought they deserved something out of their sisters estate. There was there was some stuff one. I don't know all the details because it's very like one side is saying this one side of saint as i don't know the details but i do know that that there was there was edits onto the wheel that weren't like signed off on by the court. So they're saying that the family rooted in there saying no. She was writing things in before she passed. And she didn't so a grownup and she knew how to do ab- and here's the thing is. Did that grandma who passed away have children. No so as far as i'm concerned. Like if i'd i'd say or my brother died stay when my brother doesn't have children but if i died today everything comes to my kids. That's just the way it anybody. If anybody else has their hand out screw you run into the odd where somebody's like. Well you know my brother died night. Ain't anything out of his estate. And i'm like oh my god like children. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah same here that that would be me. I've got. I've got three kids. And so straight up my basically give all my like possessions to my kids. And then like i'm gonna have my body dissect it to different limbs and given to the rest of the family. Yeah his are you get jobs ass plummer boy. What's your first name. I forgot nick. Mario mario yeah. I give people nicknames a lot like swear to god. I can't even help it nick. You have a son correct. I do and he looks just like you. Oh my god yes. Speech issues no. He's actually like extremely talkative and he's too and he's like issues. He talked too much talk so well and so often. Okay okay. I just get the. He's gonna be a handful and already that schools are going to be calling you and you're going to be dealing with a lotta shit with him. He's agered so good natured. Also i'm getting somebody in your generation who passed neck generation. Yes and i feel like there was addiction. I feel like they let themselves slide down the drain. Only if it's a male man if there is we must have not been quite that close. So why is he showing me this. Who was the rockstar. Dr drew that was on the roof. You remember what i'm talking about honey. He's dead now right. Shifty shifty reminds me a shifty shifty is. i don't either learn either. I mean nuts. Oh town those avandia was at a town. I thought it was a different band. Logan to som- it shifting data alive. Is he okay. he's still alive. I think logan madam chair who how you'll have to look up shifty binsar i will. I will have to look it on. Yeah josh look it up. Yeah carrier fraught. So this is a musician on and i feel like this guy reminds me either of the musician part of that or the hair or the look and sorry. It took me a minute to get their Talk to the partner over there. Sats saft Is his real name. Josh discord me. The photo because i already got our combo up. Yeah i'm curious. He looks crazy. Well you heard me say who was the guy who was on the roof on dr drew. That's how i remember her enough fair enough but this guy reminds me of that like he does addiction. He was really strung out man. And i feel like i wanna say chris or something. That sounds like chris connected to him. Oh okay wow. They're trying to get to my brother. My brother's name is chris and he's had into dining has had friends plural. That have died from this. One of them was a kid and played with the hose with him. So i feel like somebody from the neighborhood knew him from. I'm going to definitely have to tell my brother. Because because i was thinking like i didn't know people that had done drugs period at all ever let alone ojeda something this this guy's name could be stat because that's shift israel name okay or he could just like look like there's something connected to bin zor. Wow okay yeah definitely going to talk my brother about this two zero. Remember when. I said you get like a weird picture in your head. Yeah that is one of the pictures. I was picking up. I'll get my guides will give me a lot of signs and symbols of make me see things to say things. Yeah that's kind of how that works. So i don't know i don't know how plausible it has to ask a question but is there. Did they want to say something to my brother on. I feel like he's showing me childhood memories with your brother. I feel like your brother was a very grounding influence. Like a good influence and that this person pulled away from them and like isolated away from your brother. So i feel like he's coming back to say i was wrong but isolated because of my addiction. Wow wow okay. that's a mind blowing. That is yeah. I'm gonna definitely it's never who you expect right. Yeah definitely not because. I don't think i ever met this person or a childhood friends. Maybe i've seen him a couple of times. Or maybe i've met him a little bit. But but once. I you open for anybody to come through and the door is shot until i decided to do it reading so that was an. It's as i was talking about your son. He was just trying to get my intention. It's that's crazy. Wow crazy crazy in a good way. Yeah and then. Yeah just saying. Chris like that's my brother's name and and yeah in my generation because he's my brother is only four and a half years older than i am. So is your brother's birthday in july. No it's in january. My birthday's in july okay. 'cause he just told me birthday in july. Yeah my birthday. That's just his way of confirming what we're talking about. He said birthday in july while. Yeah yeah. I wonder are or i wonder if his birthday was in july. Or if it's because of mining pulling you like don't doubt this. There's a birthday in july. So yeah yeah. They just showed me that calendar july with like a birthday cake. Wow incredible trying not to these. Because i'm usually not. I mean i think it's okay given the circumstances through true. Yeah you guys need to. Y'all need to call jonah like and do a chat with her and just just crazy right now during pandemic yeah. I'm to my office. We wear masks because we don't have to wear a mask and you'll weird to me to do. I've been video chat and so long. It doesn't feel weird at all. I mean of course. I'm gonna look like being like your number one customer sounds you can't you can't do it over and over again that's right that's right just every now and then we can do but i'd say twice a year but you know if you go on my page on psychic readings by jonah the heavy medium. I'm based by we just did a facebook live h. earlier and it was so much fun because i always have a drank. I always have a bottle of them with me for absolutely and we do it on monday. Nights at five o'clock central. And i bring people into something thing like this and they can ask the question that pulled cards forum free round. Yeah because i just learned about screen sharing your zoom onto your facebook. Live which i did not know. I'm not a gamer right. I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to do that. We i don't i have no idea i don't i don't do like i played today. Much much separate plumbing. Apparently i bring it up. It's super easy. And i did not know and i asked all these. It people in there. Like i don't know and who know she doesn't know anything about it. She's like mom. You hit the screen share. And i'm like eddies. Aw we can't be easy. Yes amazing do you Do you like. Do you like to watch like horror movies and like ghosts movies and stuff. No no no brings paranormal stupid. No don't call them stupid. We have to at talking to kids now. Like you're my son's age so like Ha it's okay. I am stupid. Ignore me if i disappear momentarily. I mentioned this battery. Need you go away. No louise are too much for me. They're like i'm too much of an impact. I can't even more like you know the thrillers. Where the little girl gets lost on the airplane and they're looking. Yeah i get. I get so worked up on. Do you remember the movie signs. Your signs like made me like i cry. I had to get walk around. I could not watch it now. Worried about the kids and then there was the thing standing in the doorway. Wow yeah that. That wasn't one of our prepared questions. But it just came to me and i was like movies. I mean i've got a no that's and it makes sense though. 'cause you tune into it even if they're acting it's so real and vivid. Yeah i can see bravo in some housewives bitches fight that offer to go go at each other love it but i love it. My wife watches a little women. La and stuff like all star finding. It's hilarious still funny. I never thought about watching that. Because we joke about midget porn all the time. Yes it's the best best four to makes you feel bigger and everything. There is midget porn or absolute support. We are looking up some midget porn honey. Back episode numbers just skyrocket. But then they'll drop down because people are like what the fuck is this. I want but if they watched like the first ten minutes they'd be like this is actually not bad. Not gonna lie but they just got to get through still hashtag midget porn just because we talked about it. That's true that's true. Josh probably will now whenever he starts doing the social posts absolutely care. He'll do absolutely next midget porn there. You were going to post his deal in two titled legit corn and why not done that yet one now. That's getting a little too. Close you google. Google your name one day and it says midget corn after you're like oh my god video must be getting clicked on or something. The google algorithm. Harry is a day for medium reading but midget porn came. I don't know what's going on this. We joke all the time about midget porn. That's like a loss inside job. It's real it's it's real. And i say that because not because i know it. I've heard ron. Johnson told me i i know i know that theory behind men. Who like mitt did. I know why. Oh wait whoa. There's a theory you know this this. It's taken those little tiny hands and when they grab your you know it looks bigger because their hands are so little. Well i do say it makes us look bigger. I didn't necessarily mean by their hands just met their whole stature at that point. You're putting in their ribs. I'm going with this whole interview but this is this is what we do. It's wonderful in. Yeah they spend so different. It's so much fun with the different personalities that have been the best one for you. Oh my god what the other one yesterday about the house bites because it was a housewife you know was reality. Podcast right into and talk about all this shit so we had a ball out. Everything is also different than love it and love. Because i feel like i can talk about this stuff in their passenger but oh yeah oh absolutely yeah. It's a win win no matter where you go. That's that's incredible especially when people are open to it. You know i mean you gotta be open to it if somebody's just being a dick and that's no fun. When we got your email. I was like okay. Let me look this person up. And i was like do. He's immediately always like how cool is that. I know it's amazing. Did i message because you mess it. Because i was on that podcast group and you may have been nick at the time i i had no idea joe. Just recently yeah. Justice recently started doing facebook group. And i jumped into a kind of a while back and i saw your your posts and i was like we always want guests on here like. It's so fun. So i just said like we run a show called the mindless morning show and and if you wanna be on it you can and then you then you email the i i. I let you the website link. Yeah right and i can't take it. I mean i'm probably contacted. I don't know twenty people. Twenty people contacted me. It was overwhelming. Input everybody's podcast Mike raising couldn't keep it all straight without lake raining down like who contact what their names were was insane media th those groups if you if people want to be a guest on their even like other podcasters like i could be like. Hey i run a podcast. I wanna be a guest on yours and then review. It will just happened. Everybody wants to just cross promote and help each other and just have fun and awesome. That's what the community is. all about. Man i agree i agree. I will say there's a lot of podcasts. That have like a select niche. And we're kind of just everywhere. So i don't know that's why i'm like. Anybody can be aghast because everybody has something fun to talk about it. you know. we're not it's not just us. I mean. I've got a dent in the back of my head from skateboarding. I talked about that but other people have all sorts of other shit. Oh everybody's got something so story story. It's your job to pull it out of them at some point. That's definitely what i'm looking forward to. Meeting more and more guesses hearing all their stories because everyone in your way. Don't worry we'd love me. Wonderful yeah So we we down to five minutes. Did you want to continue going for a little bit longer. Or would you like to start wrapping up on you know. I just wanted to remind people that they can come to my online groups. A ticket for an audience event is normally 35-ish dollars. Online tickets are ten into an audience event with me online. So yeah if you've never attended an audience event with medium visibly the opportunity to do it stone. Yeah i am going to be you are you are going to get people from me because my mom's side of the family they are very open minded to this stuff and they will want to talk to you. I guarantee it's so. I mean in texas nick. I'm in austin okay. So that's actually part attack. I'm right i'm right. I'm right outside of austin. I'm i'm i'm in a little town called pflueger ville okay Austin is known to be really open minded compared to the rest of like texas right yeah. Es typically i mean it's artists and everything is right here exactly exactly so you probably grew up with more like open-mindedness to things like this. I yeah i yeah i did. I did yeah yeah. Those conservative areas and people are not very open minded. Yeah exactly exactly yeah it just. It's crazy how living in different places just brings out different things than people this absolutely crazy. So has everything to do. You're bringing crazy. Yeah absolutely how i must say. It has been an absolute pleasure. Having you on our show an awesome great talking us you such a fun time and i hope we the best podcasts you. I'll tell you what you guys put together. Resume group get your listeners. On komo into reading some time. That would be yeah. They would like that. Yeah they would love that you can promote it to your audience and we'll do zoom group like this and bring in twenty other people and i'll choose people into readings a wonderful. Yeah we will get the ball rolling on that and then in. We'll definitely but we also want you to to make money too so we're going to make sure that we push it the people to come see you independently and to do things and hour and a half my time to do a fund zoom group with you that in anyone listening or watching in the description we will have all the links so that you can find her you can get in contact with her and you can find out if your future sucks or if it's also or just in the mondays on facebook lives yes and we're going to put that in description we're gonna put every single thing we can and the description for you because this has been awesome and we definitely want to see you. Continue to just grow and grow midget. Yes all the way porn. Thank you thank you. Thank you anytime anytime you want to come back on and shoot the shit with us about literally beefing mattered. Being immediate could be about eighty things so much. I could talk to you guys. If you just wanna come on and and drink some whisky will totally do it. I absolutely taught any time awesome awesome. Thank you guys. So much improv. Everyone that was jonah kit. Thank you ink here. I'm going to look into shoemaking until your future future is god. No god please no.

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Democracy Now! 2019-04-16 Tuesday

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Democracy Now! 2019-04-16 Tuesday

"From the this is democracy now. We won't build this Cottrill together. And it is undoubtedly part of the French destiny and project for the years to come. We will rebuild Dom because that's what the French expect. And because it is what our history deserves. Because it's our underlying destiny France is going to rebuild terraces beloved Notre Dom cathedral a day after a fire ripped through the more than eight hundred fifty year old church, which has been the center of Catholic life in France for centuries. The fire toppled Notre Dame's icon expire. But the main structure of the church remains standing, we'll get the latest and look at the historical significance of Notre Dom. Then we speak with Palestinian human rights vest, Omar Barghouti, a founder of the boy contact and sanctions movement. He was scheduled to join us in our New York studio today, but he was denied entry to the United States. I think what happened to me yesterday morning. At Ben Gurion airport is just part of on going repression by his rail dedicate, low by proxy states on behalf of Israel to silence human rights defenders into BBS movement has been working good fatty heart since two thousand fourteen to shut us down and keeps growing. We'll join us from Ramallah in the West Bank. Then democratic congresswoman Ilhan Omar is faking is facing a spike in death threats after the president the New York Post and others falsely accused her of downplaying the September eleventh attacks, we'll speak with Mustafa by owning author of this Muslim American light dispatches from the war on terror all that and more coming up. Welcome sue democracy. Now democracy now dot org. The Warren peace report, I made me Goodman. France is reeling today after a massive fire tore through power says beloved Notre Dame cathedral. Medieval church built close to nine hundred years ago, a celebrated landmark around the world Parisians looked on in shock Monday. As around four hundred firefighters attempted to get the blaze under control some engaging in prayers and religious songs. The fire claimed the cathedral spire and ravage parts of the interior, but the iconic twin medieval towers remain standing as does the rest of the stone structure French president Emmanuel Matt call vowed to rebuild the cathedral. Little kid will be on our borders. We will appeal to the greatest talents and many people will come to contribute to it. And we will rebuild we will rebuild Notre dob because that's what the fridge expect. And because it is what our history deserves because it's our underlying destiny France's wealthiest men have already pledged over three hundred thirty million dollars to the reconstruction effort. The European Union has also vowed to help rebuild the cathedral. Authorities have launched an investigation into how the fire started. But ruled out arson saying they believe it was started by accident likely related to the ongoing hundred eighty million dollar renovation. The church will have more on the story after headlines with Johns Hopkins, professor and Lester in Jerusalem, another fire at a major holy site broke out Monday, the blaze at Alexa. Mosque broke out in the Marwani prayer room. But Palestinian Authority say the blaze was contained there. Now assessing the damage a lock says located in the old city of. Occupied east Jerusalem house. Democrats issued subpoenas in Deutsche Bank another banks Monday as part of the several congressional probes into the finances of President Trump and the Trump organization. The New York attorney general's office is also investigating Trump's ties to Bank last month. The New York Times reporter Deutsche Bank loaned over two billion dollars to Trump for real estate deals over nearly two decades even when other banks refused to do. So Trump still had over three hundred million dollars out stone in outstanding loans from Bank when he took office as president in two thousand seventeen the Justice department announced Monday the redacted version of special counsel. Robert Muller's report will be released Thursday. Democrats have been calling for the full report authorizing subpoenas to compel its release. But attorney general William Barr told lawmakers last week he would not share the unredacted. Report with the public or members of congress special counsel Muller handed over the long anticipated report to the attorney general last month and concluded the Trump campaign did not collude with Russia to win the two thousand sixteen election, but did come to a definitive conclusion on possible, obstruction of Justice. The UN is warning. The spread of measles is on the rise around the world. The number of cases reported in the first three months of two thousand nineteen is three times higher than the same time. Last year. The highly contagious infection kills one hundred thousand people every year mostly children all regions around the world have been hit by the recent outbreak with Africa reporting the greatest spike up seven hundred percent since last year. The UN says the most affected countries Our Ukraine Madagascar and India, although the disease is preventable lack of access to vaccinate in poorer countries has hoped contribute to the recent surge in cases last week New York City declared a public health emergency mandating the vaccination in some parts of Brooklyn where orthodox Jewish communities which have particularly low vaccination rates have been hit hard by the outbreak. A man accused of setting fire to three historically black churches in Louisiana was charged with hate crimes Monday hole. Matthews. The twenty one year old son of a deputy sheriff was also charged with three counts of arson after being arrested last week the first blaze occurred at the end of last month and the two others in early April all three churches where in Saint Landry parish about thirty minutes. North of Lafayette Bernie Sanders released ten years of tax returns, Monday revealing achieve millionaire status since his two thousand sixteen presidential build bid. Senator Sanders responded to a question Monday about whether his income would negatively impact. His political message. Always that we need a progressive tax system which demands that the wealthiest people in this country finally start paying their fair share. Senator Sanders attributed his increase in wealth to sales from his book our revolution. He told the New York Times us week. I wrote a bestselling book if you write a best selling book, you can be a millionaire to he said other twenty twenty hopefuls have also released their tax returns, including former Texas congressman bio that oh Rourke and senators Kamla Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Amy klobuchar Kirsten gillibrand, President Trump continues to refuse to release his tax returns. Trump has claimed for years he's under audit a claim disputed by his former personal attorney Michael Cohen in congressional testimony earlier this year in more news about the twenty twenty elections. Former Massachusetts Governor William weld announced Monday hill run against Trump for the Republican presidential nomination will the first Republican to declare challenge to Trump and twenty twenty before becoming governor of Massachusetts will serves as a US attorney appointed by President Reagan. He was the running mate for liberty. Carrion party candidate Gary Johnson, two thousand sixteen elections. Well, boasts record of cutting taxes and pushing for spending cuts, but it's more centrist views on social environmental issues, supporting reproductive rights, obe-, GT issues and rejoining the Paris climate accord well set to hit the campaign trail today in New Hampshire. The American Medical Association is blasting the Trump administration for banning transgender soldiers from serving in the US military calling the prohibition medically deficient the trans ban which was first announced by President Trump in July two thousand seventeen tweet formerly went into effect Friday in a statement, the AMA wrote, quote, sexual orientation and gender identity are not psychological or medical disorders. The estimated fourteen thousand seven hundred transgender military personnel are qualified and willing to serve rather than stigmatizing and banning these patriots DOD should. Let them serve. The AMA said in Chicago police arrested seven graduate workers from Loyola University Monday during a protest in front of one of the schools offices, the loyal student workers and their supporters were protesting the administration's refusal to recognize their union negotiate a fair contract for their workers. Teachers, and researchers the graduate worker say their compensation does not provide a living wage, especially considering the soaring cost of tuition, and that they should be treated more as permanent staff and faculty members of the union, which is part of a you graduate workers forward are calling for a walkout later this month unless university agrees to a fair contract. The new secretary of the interior David Bernhardt is being investigated for potential conflicts of interest just four days after the Senate confirmed him to the position the interior department's inspector general office said it received multiple complaints against former oil lobbyists Bernhardt when he was deputy secretary of the interior CNN reported last month Bernhardt made at least fifteen policy decisions that directly benefited former clients since joining the agency in two thousand seventeen burn hearts predecessor Ryan Zinke step down in December. It's multiple scandals and affects investigations two of which are still ongoing and environmental news democratic presidential candidate. Senator Elizabeth Warren announced she will ban any new fossil fuel drilling. On public lands or waters on day one of her presidency in a post on medium Warren, also vowed to increase the production of renewable energy restore protections to national monuments targeted by. The Trump administration bring in local and tribal leaders to help manage public lands and create thousands of jobs the youth and veteran. Conservation corps. Senator Warren wrote, quote, we must not allow corporations to pillage are public lands. America's public lands belong to all of us. We should start acting like it. She said in climate news activists across Europe held sit ins marches and direct action. Protests Monday as part of a week long campaign demanding urgent action on climate change in London. Police arrested over one hundred people as protesters shutdown Waterloo bridge, Oxford circus with other super glowing themselves to the British headquarters of the shell oil company. This is Theresa Sanders of the direct action group extinction. Rebellion by is the most things Brexit absorb. We all things going on now. But we haven't future was appointed anything sixteen year old Swedish activist, Greta tune Berg, who's led an international campaign of weekly school strikes for the climate spoke about the protests from Strasbourg France as she prepared to appear at the European Union parliament, she's due to meet pope Francis on Wednesday. I feel like the debate is shifting will people talking about this more and checking visible seriously of becoming more with? But of course, the only thing we need to look at the mission cove, if the missions are actually increasing or reducing right now increasing so that is there anything we should. New York City's American Museum of natural history said Monday, it's canceled plans to host Brazil's far, right? Presidential president John Deere Bolsonaro at a black-tie gala dinner in may bolster not knows planned appearance. Set off intense protests from environmental and human rights groups who noted his administration has worked open Brazil's Amazon rainforest logging mining agribusiness companies while violating the rights of indigenous people to their ancestor lands. It wasn't the museum that was actually hosting him. It was a group that was renting out the museum space, but the museum announced they'll go elsewhere and this years Pulitzer prize recipients were announced Monday and New York City reporting on gun violence figured prominently with the south Florida sun sentinel, winning an award for its coverage of last year's massacre at Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland, Florida and the Pittsburgh post gazette for its breaking news coverage of the mass shooting at the tree of life synagogue that Kim. Killed eleven Jewish worshippers reporters from the New York Times. And the Wall Street Journal were recognized for the reporting on President Trump to see our interview with David Bar sto of the New York Times on how Trump built his fortune through tax dodging and fraud. Go democracy now dot org. Jailed Reuters reporters while loan Joso or also honored for quote expertly, exposing the military units and Buddhist villagers responsible for the systematic expulsion and murder of Ruhango Muslims from the an mar unquote reporters are in glance and Emanuel Martinez were finalists for their expose of racial discrimination and mortgage lending. You can see our interview with our in glance at democracy now dot org. We will also link to all the winners there, and those are some of the headlines says democracy now democracy now dot or the warrant piece report, I mainly Goodman, one kansallis, welcome to all of our listeners and viewers across the country and the round the world. France's in mourning today after a fire ripped through Paris's beloved Notre Dom cathedral of medieval church in the heart of the city that was built eight hundred fifty years ago. Thousands of Parisians watched in shock on Monday as the fire toppled the cathedral spire and continued to burn for hours for centuries. Notre Dom has been the center of Catholic life in France. And it is one of the most visited churches in the world the fire occurred during the holiest week of the Christian year. Authorities are just beginning to assess how much was damage inside the church on Monday night. French president Emmanuel Macron spoke to reporters nearby. Eighty mmc. The worst has been avoided even though the battle has not yet been completely one. The next few hours will be difficult that thanks to the courage of the firefighters, the facade and main towers have not collapsed. So tonight above all, my thoughts, go out to the Catholics Catholics and France and all over the world, especially during this holy week. I know how they feel when we are with them. Who's my thoughts? Also, go out to all the people of Paris. Notre Dom of Paris is there cathedral and more. The mayor of Paris was with us all these hours from the first flames, and I know how she and all the residents of the city are feeling I also want to spare thought for all our compatriots because the Notre Dame of Paris is our history, our literature are imagination place where we have lived all are great moments are Apodaca or wars are liberation. It is the epicenter of our lives. It is the benchmark from which distances start and from which we measure ourselves from Paris, it appears in so many books, so many paintings, it is a cathedral that is the one of all French men and women even those who have never come here. Mourners gathered throughout the night in Paris to pray and sing while watching the flames engulf the cathedral structure, which can be seen throughout the city. While the fire destroyed the cathedral, spire, Notre dumbs iconic. Twin medieval towers remain standing as as the rest of the stone structure French authorities of launch investigations into how the fire started in the structural stability of the building the cathedral is undergoing a major restoration. When the blaze began last year. The Catholic church launched a major fundraising appeal to help preserve the cathedral at the time. The church said parts of the eight hundred fifty year old gothic masterpiece are starting to crumble because of pollution eating the stone. And there are fears the structure could become unstable. They said French president McCaw has vowed to rebuild. Notre Dom two of France's wealthiest men have already pledged over three hundred thirty million dollars. This comes as Crohn's government continues to push sweeping austerity measures guardian columnist Chuck robotic tweet. Did the Notre Dom exposes the paradoxes of steady politics, not chrome preaches cut for French people? Yet swears national effort to restore a cathedral billionaire squid squeal at paying higher taxes yet can throw millions at this. We haven't moved far from the rich buying indulgences. He said the European Union has also vowed to help rebuild Notre Dom, Donald tusk. The president of the European Council spoke earlier today in Brussels. Dom cathedral has again made those. That have bound by something more important and more profound than three. Today, we understand the bet the essence of that switches come common, we know how much we can lose. And that you want to defend it together. Talk more about the fire at the Notre Dame cathedral in the church's historical significance. We're joined now by an Lester socio, professor of medieval history Johns Hopkins University, professor, Lester, welcome to democracy now describe your feelings as you watched the flame yesterday the flames and goal thing. The spire of Notre Dom the ceiling. Collapsing. What they called the forest because it almost took a forest of trees to build that ceiling the significance of Notre Dame cathedral. I think like everyone across the world watching the it was shocking and devastating. Really? I've spent my career working on Perez on the medieval period on turn on. And and all the things that had been collected in the building there and the the life and cultural heritage of this building. And what it embodies? I think we were all just shocked watching the spire burn and collapse into the center of the federal. And certainly it made. I think everyone think about the way that a monument like this functions in our modern world today. It really is a testament to to set of ideas, human ideas, and this case about the divine, and as true all monuments has been here for hundreds of years before us, and we all Sumed it would persist for hundreds of years to come. So I think it was it was a very has been a very over. Well-made? Nearly dan. Hi day, twenty four hours, really, professor lesser someone who knows well all of the historical the artifacts in the relics that are in the cathedral. What have you heard so far what have you been able to glean in terms of what was preserved and what may have been lost? What we've learned from from friends and colleagues in Perez seems very early on their efforts by the administrators of the cathedral, and of course, in coordination with the firefighters to save what they could that people were going in and grabbing what they could. And and leaving the building as quickly as possible distinct efforts were made to preserve to the most important most holy relics that were contained in the building that would have been the center of veneration during holy week. First and foremost, of course, the crown of thorns, which is a reliquary dating back to the time of Jesus passion. The relic of the crown it was believed that that was put on his head at the time of the passion to Marquette and to mock him the king of the Jews during the crucifixion it was preserved then moved over time to Constantinople and then eventually brought in the middle of the thirteenth century to Paris where it resided ever since twelve thirty seven so the history of that relic. The history for the Catholic faith for the culture of France. And of Christianity is profound. And it's my understanding that that was saved as well. As a relic of the tunic of Saint Louis king of France and thirteenth century who dies in twelve seventy very holy symbol of the kingdom of France. And the French realm and those two and possibly other relics and portable objects from the Soir or the treasury where were saved. What was likely loss from what you have been able to tell so far? Yeah, it's very hard to know. I haven't another relic of great significance was the relic of the true cross. That was also kept their I have yet to hear whether that was preserved certainly what's very clear, even though the the stonework of the building itself as well as the voting on the interior for the most part seems to have been preserved. No doubt, deeply scarred. There's going to be both damaged from the fire as well. As the water. Putting the fire out water is not good for limestone, much, like marvel it will melt. If it is treated with water and not able to dry quickly enough. So there are parts of the building that were preserved. But then we know much of the would on the interior carved wood part of the choir. That would have been carved in wood that area where the canons would sit and sing the mass. It's unclear whether the carved statuary in circled, the high altar that choir area, relief sculpture, carved beautifully in the later middle ages painted in fine-details, something that leapt out to any visitor who walked around that part of the cathedral because it really told an animated cycle of sculpture, the story of the life of Jesus. And it was extremely compelling way. To communicate these stories to people people from the middle ages onward who who didn't read who couldn't read or who were listening in new the stories or early that seems not to survive, and perhaps most devastating all is the loss of the glass in the cathedral. Because of course, when a fire burns that hot the lead that held the stained glass panels in place, particularly in that choir area, and in the crossing where the spire fell in the middle of the cathedral. That lead would melt and the gloss, but would either melted south because it got so hot or certainly would be lost. Thankfully, the three. It seems that the three great rose windows on the west north and south facades. Have have have remained in place. And if you can talk about I mean, the history that the cathedral has lived through if you will. I mean from the French revolution epidemics, the tomb world wars. Absolutely. I mean the cathedral as we see today was begun in eleven sixty three imagine that right? You know, over eight hundred years ago and persisted was built over the course of more than one hundred years through the thirteenth century, it changed styles who express new ideas, new notions of devotion, and what the divine wise, it changed to accommodate more and more visitors who came to Paris as the city itself grew and exactly like like a monument that is witness to so much that happens around. It was there for people touring the period of the plague in the fourteenth century that devastated cities like Paris. It was there during the period of the hundred years war a backdrop to the story that played out for someone like Joan of arc and other hero in French history. Likewise, the cathedral persisted. Through periods of religious war, which marred France. It was there as a symbol and was was damaged in turn on the part of the Huguenot s- active in Paris eight of course, persisted through the revolution as well. And was a symbol to people in the revolution. Particularly the carving of the king's representations of the Old Testament kings that were also viewed as representations of the kings of France, they were damaged the heads lopped off. But the people of Paris lovingly safe that sculpture, and some of it was able to be restored over time for dome also persisted through the two world wars, which is remarkable as other grand at the gills and France did not charge, for example, swat soil on yak fedral that were damaged particularly during either the first or second World War in bombing campaigns. That was not the fate for note that people have Notre dome actually took down the glass. Preserved did what they could to preserve the stonework of the cathedral in this case with this fire something so unexpected that moved such a fast pace. There was no way. There was time to consider how what could be preserved. So the building itself really has witnessed scores of a French history witnessed the very making and remaking of a notion of France and of the French monarchy crucial building for Napoleon and his image. And vision of what France could become in the nineteenth century as well. As the way that France restored itself after the second World War, it became a symbol for people of unity, and and of what it means to rebuild and remake French civilization and professional how do you? Your reaction to the overwhelming public reaction. People coming forward now to donate some of the richest people in France. Now, a promising hundreds of millions of dollars to restore the cathedral at especially coming as it did this tragedy right in between Palm Sunday. And and a Good Friday and Easter the holiest week in the Christian calendar. Yeah. I mean, I think the building clearly has resonates far beyond the borders of France. It is a world monument is marked out that way tourists come from across the globe to visit Notre Dame to have walked through the building to taken in the kind of vision of what the experience of of the divine should be like whether you're Christian or not have entered into that building. You would experience some of that. And I think the sentiment that we see coming out across the world, certainly from Americans spent a great deal of time there from people in Britain from all over who visited this is a monument that has great cultural significance to to all of us in many ways, representing a whole host of ideas and to be sure to Catholics during holy week. The loss of this building is is just almost unbelievable hard to really fathom. I think it's extremely difficult for us to. Conceive of the significance as I say of the relics that were kept within the treasury. The crown of thorns would have been processed during holy week. It would have been the focal point of devotion as it had been for many years. And we're very lucky that the relic itself was saved, but it is hard to imagine the relic having the same meaning not being able to to move through the space of the cathedral it self. I think it's not surprising that people are interested in donating to the restoration of Notre Dame. I think that's crucial. It is clearly away to bring people together within France, France. Like, many countries across the globe are going to experience set of really difficult decisions moves for general staring come up against and really point out again sort of paradox of of the meaning of cultural symbol like this which will demand attention. Right away. And I hope that there can be ways to to navigate the situation to have people of means donate as they can to really take this as a moment where we can evaluate what it means for all of us to come together as a community and the ways in which cultural symbols symbols produce for cultural unity really can function in that way. I think the rebuilding campaign will be tremendously important and Lester we want to? Thank you for being with us, associate professor of medieval history Johns Hopkins university's the relics. They saved I understand will then be under splayed now at the Louvre while they rebuild the Notre Deng cathedral. This is democracy. Now when we come back, Omar VAR Guti joins us the Trump administration did not allow him into the United States. But we break the sound barrier with his voice stay with us. People singing hail Mary across the bridge facing the Notre Dame cathedral last night as the spire burned this is democracy now democracy now or the warrant piece report Goodman with one solace. We care no to the ongoing cracked on pro Palestinian activism here in the United States. Critics demanding answers after the Trump administration refused to allow prominent Palestinian human rights. Activists are Guti to enter the United States last week. This spite his having valid US visa Barghuti co founder of the boycott divestment and sanctions movement or D S, an international campaign to pressure Israel to comply with international law and respect Palestinian Bright's. He was scheduled to be in the US this week to speak at Harvard and NYU and meet with lawmakers in Washington DC, but when he arrived at the Ben Gurion airport in Tel-Aviv on. Wednesday. April tenth Barghouti was told that the United States was denying him entry. He was not given an explanation Omar Barghouti and his supporters say the move was motivated by his involvement with the BBS movement calling. It a form of quote mccarthyite repression. This is just the latest attack on the BBS move in the United States, which has gained steam in recent years more than one hundred measures targeting boycotts and other acts of Palestinian solidarity have been introduced in state and local legislators legislatures and in congress since two thousand fourteen according to the website Palestine legal at least twenty seven states have now adopted anti-boycott laws, including five executive orders issued by governors earlier this year on Capitol Hill senators passed a Bill that included a controversial anti BBS provisions aimed at preventing position to the Israeli government by allowing state and local governments to sanction US companies boycotting Israel well for more. We are turning to Omar Barghouti. He was scheduled. Join us here in our democracy now studio in New York today. But instead he's joining us from Ramallah in the West Bank. Omar Guti is the author of boycott divestment. Sanctions the global struggle for Palestinian rights. Omar, welcome to democracy. Now. Can you describe what happened when you got to the airport in Tel-Aviv on Wednesday? Sure, the airline told me there wasn't issue with my Faiza. And there wasn't my visa was founded until twenty twenty one. So they called the US consulate in Tel Aviv. And after a long delay just as I was boarding. They prevented me from boarding saying that the us consulate had told them that there's an immigration issue of sorts by the US immigration against me. Which was quite unbelievable. I've been to the United States many many many times including on the same visa. And all of our Gucci in the past. It's been Israel that has tried to limit your Bill. You're ability to travel and band, you how how were you able to get a suspension of the as Rayleigh efforts to stop you from traveling where you surprised that this time it was the United States stepped in. Yes. Indeed. Since two thousand fourteen Israel has prevented me or try to quite a few times printed me from traveling through a digital and defacto travel bans by diffusing to renew my astray travel permits without which I cannot leave and reenter the country. This was condemned by international including recently in February of this year as an arbitrary measure of punishing me for my human rights activities into movement. Indeed. This was quite surprising. That Israel has outsourced. This type of micro repression of the movement to allies in the White House. Israel has has outsourced quite a lot of its repressive mccarthyite policies to the United States as you report Kodak, you mentioned twenty seven state legislatures have passed clearly unconstitutional anti-democratic anti-d measures. But this is the first time that we're aware of that this micro level offer pression is is done by the US. As a proxy for Israel. Can you respond to your denial by the Trump administration into the United States? What you have to say to them. I think this is just another step that shows how this right-wing administration which is completely in alliance with Israel's fodder. I regime is ten or fide of our voices is terrified of telling the truth. They're trying to prevent me from meeting US lawmakers in congress mainstream media to speak at the synagogue to speak at Harvard NYU, and so on and so forth and certain denying the rights to be with my daughter for her wedding, which is happening next Sunday. So by this that US administration is just adding to it's already very deep record of complicity in Israel's violations of international, but this time they're violating US low because this is on ideological and political exclusion and ACLU Penn US and other organizations are investigating this issue. Whether the US State Department is denying the entry over my. Human nights views. I wanted to ask you as a as a founder of the movement, and you've been watching the increased efforts worldwide by these Rayleigh government to to squelch and repressed movement, your reaction to the recent reports that ex Masada agents have harassed US students and activists here in the United States in an effort to intimidate them. There's so many ways of of intimidation that Israel has resorted to Israel and its lobby groups whether the traditional Jewish establishment knobby or the Christian Zionist lobby they're involved in through McCarthyism. I mean, I called it McCarthyism two point. Oh, and if old for of the earlier McCarthyism with loyalty to Israel being the litmus test, but Israel is certainly spying on US citizens who are active in the movement as revealed in zero documentary reports dumb Bubby, and as a languish throat in Lamont, diplomatic and electric intifada have revealed Israel is indeed spying and using legal. Persecution against activists to silence activists set for of Israel's lovely troops are funding. The so called canary mission, which is smearing activists on campus. Specially Jewish activists stadium rights, and they realized that the number of Jewish activists in the US who support tinian rights and even support is in sentence. I wanted to go back to an interview we did last year when we spoke to by Molly speech pathologist who filed a lawsuit against the Pflueger Ville, independent school district in Texas and the Texas State attorney general after being forced out of her position for refusing to sign a pro Israel pledge in her contract, a Maui explained. She doesn't consider self a BS activists, but does try to avoid purchasing products that support the Israeli occupation. I am not actually an active member of the VDI at all. I'm just. Personally from my south. If I'm wherever product that is me know supports Israel or is made in the country. Then I just have a personal I make a personal choice to avoid it because I don't want to support ongoing, occupation and aggression and in subcommittee treatment of the Palestinians. That's making me kind of like us participants complicit with whole occupation. So I actually I'm not aware of it. I even go through and find out the list of things, I just I'm just happened to know about it or if somehow find out than I just avoid it. But other than that, really. I'm not an active member. So she she declined to sign her contract. She said, quote, which which said, she will not boycott Israel during the term of the contract, and that she would not take any action that's quote intended to penalize inflict economic harm on or limit commercial relations with Israel. This was in her contractors speech pathologist with the company that was working in the schools, and she had been beloved speech pathologists there. Four years, Omar Barghouti, how common is this. This is quite common. Most of the twenty seven state legislatures have passed laws or signed executive orders by governors look much the same. They're suppressing the free speech of American citizens. And it's. ACLU has cold it. It's tremendous of McCarthy era loyalty oaths, and those contracts say that you would not engage in a boycott of instant or of the territories under Israel's control that this occupation Palestinian territory occupied Syrian territory, it's an it's lobby. Make no distinction between Israel in sixty seven depre- six seven board and occupied territory of nineteen sixty seven and indeed this is raising concern among liberals in general, not just supporters Palestinian rights. We're seeing that across the United States people understand very vividly, especially people of color, especially women LGBTQ groups at one understand vividly that if Israel and its lobby get away with undermining toossion the first amendment by suppressing free speech on pedestal. No one is safe. No one is safe. No, one can tell who's next as the earlier version of McCarthyism has shown us. It wasn't about. The communists. It was about. Oh, dissenters those opposed to Israel to us imperialism and intervention and right-wing pundits. Similarly, this McCarthy's two point oh would not stop to Palestine support. There's not stop at silencing pro-palestine voices. It what go on to suppress. Other Justice struggles be climate Justice, gender, Justice, sexual Justice, ethnic, religious, Justice under Justice and Boggetti. I wanted to ask you about the latest news about Airbnb originally Airbnb after protests by human rights activists had agreed to remove the listings of thousands of homes of Jewish settlers in the West Bank that had been listed previously on their site. But then just yesterday they reverse that. And they said they're going to keep those listings on even though obviously these are listings in a territory. With our illegal settlements. According to international law. Your your reaction to Airbnb apparently, indeed the pressure. Yes. Airbnb has fallen has surrendered to Israel's bullying bullying by Israel's lobby in the United States in a very shameful way in indeed. Instead of combing Israel's settlements as they are as the United Nations, and almost the entire international community illegal settlements illegal Connie's occupied territory that no one should deal with Airbnb has bowed to Israel's pressure, and is is not going to delist those settlement properties, that's a clear. Violation of international law and subject. Airbnb to possible boycotts by humid activists around the world. Can you talk about what's happened in Israel in the last week? And how it affects you. The election. Once again, the record five term Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, despite the fact that the attorney general says he's going to charge him with corruption. What does it mean for where you are in the West, Bank and Gaza? I think the stinian can expect to really troubling times ahead really darker and darker era of repression of violation of rights land theft resource theft, more brutal, siege on Gaza more ethnic cleansing in Jerusalem under negative and the Jordan valley, we can expect all that escalate with fascist forces openly fascist forces potentially joining the next nothing government, the socal Jewish power party, which is a is party that is absolutely fascist and open pickles for ethnic cleansing at least. They're honest. Other more mainstream is ready parties endorse ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. And indeed are doing it piecemeal everywhere, but they're not calling it that so at least Israel with this new government might lose its final mask. It's really worn out Finn mask of democracy as it's never was since its creation. During has was been an apartheid state, and now it's claimed to democracy. It's it's claim to liberalism are completely shattered with this latest election on the one hand this would cause more suffering to us Palestinians everywhere in the nineteen sixty seven area in nineteen forty eight area in Israel's pretty seven board. There's uncertainty Palestinian refugees and Exide would be even further denied their basic rights, but there's also a silver lining because Israel's real face as an apartheid colonial regime is being exposed to the whole world. And it's being at the center of the rising far-right white supremacist and fascist tendencies from books in Brazil to Audubon in Hungary to the White House and many in between so with this with this exposure with its loss of Annemasse. This went further escalate BS movement and other so that movements to isolate Israel's regime of oppression in Oldfield's academic, cultural economic and otherwise. We wanna thank you very much for being with us. So mar Barghuti Palestinian human rights defender co founder of the boycott divestment. Sanctions national committee scheduled this week give talks at NYU, which he did by Skype interviewed by Peter beinart. He last night Harvard University to meet US, lawmakers Trump administration barring him from entering the United States, which also means he cannot come to his daughter's wedding, Omar Barghouti, author of boycott divestment. Sanctions global struggle for Palestinian rights. This is democracy. Now when we come back the attack on freshman, congress member ill hunt, Omar as she says, there's a spike in death threats against her as the Trump administration, particularly President Trump himself attacks her stay with us. Bird some. Hi, this is democracy now democracy now or of the Warren peace report, I made me Goodman with Juan Gonzalez, Minnesota freshman, congress member all Maher says death threats against her have spiked number since president. Trump tweeted a video juxtaposing her image with footage of the nine eleven attacks. Trump posted the forty-three second video Friday with the caption. We will never forget the president's tweet intercut video of the World Trade Center towers burning with video of all. Mar speaking about the increasing attacks on the Muslim American community after nine eleven all Mara. Was speaking at a council on American Islamic relations event last month. Five too long. We have lived with the discomfort of being a second class citizen. And frankly, I'm tired of it and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. Here was founded after nine eleven because they recognize that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties. In fact, founded in nineteen ninety four Omar spokesperson later said she misspoken, quote, meant to refer to the fact that the organization had doubled in size after the September eleventh attacks and of quilt, congress member Omar's comments were originally taken out of context and circulated by right wing media from the daily caller to Fox News and a statement, congress member all Marcet, quote since the president's tweet Friday evening, I have experienced an increase in direct threats on my life, many directly referencing replying to the president's video this is endangering lives. It has to stop the hashtag stand with Ilhan trended as conservative voices continued to attack congressman for Omar over the weekend. Trump said on Twitter Monday, he's heading to Minnesota, Omar tweeted, the great state of Minnesota where we don't only welcome immigrants. We send them to Washington hashtag, no ban act and new year. City Yemeni Bodega owners responded to the attacks against congressman for Omar by announcing their boy, cutting the sale and purchase of the New York Post over its front page attack on Omar the Murdoch owned daily paper featured image of the burning twin towers on nine eleven referencing. Omar's comment out of context. Nine eleven was some people did something and the words here's your something in large print over the photo, the mini American merchants association said the cover provoked hatred and targeted people of the Muslim faith to talk more about congressman Ilhan, Omar we're joined by Moustapha by you me, the author of this Muslim American life dispatches from the war on terror. His recent guardian piece headlined deal on Omar's become the target of dangerous hate campaign Mustafa by is an English professor at Brooklyn college City, University of New York, also author of how does it feel to be a problem being young and our than America? Welcome back to democracy. Now. It's great. To have you with us. Talk about what others have said over time. This is the argument you make in your piece in one L Hano, mar has become the target of dangerous hate campaign. Give us a few quotes. Sure. I mean, if you think if you just have even short term memory, thank you can remember that George W Bush, the former president of the United States said something to the effect of when referring to the nine eleven attackers said something to the effect of well, these folks committed this act, actually, we've got that clip. Georgia's the federal government. Go to help the victims and their families. And and to conduct a full scale investigation. To hunt down and to find those folks who committed this act defined the folks who committed this act, so that in my ear that sounds quite similar to what Nomar said, and in fact, George Bush thing into the whole country, and he's not considered to be anti-american for that statement whatsoever. So in fact, I think what Ilhan Omar is saying is completely within the boundaries of what is normal political discourse in this country. And we could go on. That's one example. Another example would be Ilhan Omar is now accused of claiming that. Her detractors will say that she claims that Jewish people in the United States suffer from a dual loyalty campaign. Well, in fact, actually, she did not say that. So I think it's important to qualify. What she did say what she did not say, she she talked about questions of allegiance, and if we listened to your last segment, and we talk about anti Beatty s laws. In fact, those are in fact allegiance laws that are built into that very system of the United States. However, somebody did say something that was in fact, claiming dual loyalty for Jewish Americans and that would be our president. Now, Donald Trump explain what he said he said something to the effect of when speaking to a Jewish American group. He said something Republican coalition in Las Vegas, in fact. That's right. And he said well. Let me talk about your prime minister. So he referred to Benjamin Netanyahu as their prime minister. How do you? How do you count for this enormous? Campaign that has been launched against his freshman, congress member in terms of by so many conservatives and right win a groups in the country, and by the president himself, what in your sense, what's behind it? Well, on one level, it's very clear hung, Omar is one of two Muslim women elected to congress, the first two Muslim elected to congress that gives her I think certain level of prominence along with a certain level of vulnerability, not only that. But of course, being openly Muslim, she wears hedge. She covers their hair, she's a refugee, she's an immigrant. She's a black woman. So she occupies all of those vulnerable positions in our society today. But it's not only that I've believe if you ask me because if she were a quiet black refugee woman from Somalia Muslim who covered her hair and all of that stuff. Then I think people would love to trot her out for the for the optics alone. But she's not a quiet congresswoman, in fact, I think that's a great thing. In fact, she seems to be a highly principled and highly effective politician even just in the short time that she's been in congress. So I think that in fact, she's a scary figure to a lot of people who are on the right, and even sometimes to the mainstream establishment of the Democratic Party as well that's going to be my follow up. But what about the reaction of the establishment of the Democratic Party to the threats against her and to the scapegoating of her? Yes. Well, I think that what we saw was in fact, some in some. As a litmus test of where the democratic leadership any also those vying for the presidency lie on one of the more important issues of our day. Which is you know, phobia, fundamentally what we saw with Nancy Pelosi's statement, for example, on Illinois was I thought extremely disappointing. I thought she was refusing to name explicitly was not didn't come out in her defense. And in fact, was back handedly accusing her of of sacrificing or relies should say nine eleven, you know, a territory, which was not the point of the of this controversy at all. So I thought the Nancy Pelosi's response was in fact, quite shameful. And now she's being attacked for criticizing Stephen Miller for his fierce anti-immigrant views being told that sh- because she's talking about Stephen Miller in the administration. She is singling out a Jewish member of the administration, which proves she is anti semitic. We had on Dr David glossier. Who is Stephen Miller's uncle his sister's son who criticized his nephew for his extremist, anti-immigrant views. Exactly. I mean, does that mean that you'll Hanno Mark can only criticize Ilhan Omar that was that would be natural result of that. She's not criticizing Stephen Miller for his Jewishness criticizing Stephen Miller for the positions that he holds. And that's completely within the boundaries of American political discourse from us limbs around the country Ilhan, Omar says, she herself has faced this spike in death threats against her President Trump painting, the tweet of the video where he's juxtaposed the nine eleven attacks with Ilhan, Omar, we know about the attacks on the tree of life. Synagogue eleven Jewish worshippers were killed. Filled with a killer. Citing the same words that President Trump us invaders invasion, President Trump's words and what he tweets has. Meaning absolutely. In fact, there was a study that was performed last year that was published last year that said that there's a direct correlation with Donald Trump's anti-muslim tweets and the rise in anti Muslim hate crimes. So the Twitter and hate crimes. Unfortunately are connected. And they're not only connected in the United States. They're connected internationally as well. That's what the study found. And in fact, not only is what Donald Trump tweeted a completely disturbing. But it's also coming within weeks of fifty people being killed in New Zealand in two different mosques by man who also connect it was felt himself connected to Donald Trump and his idea forget what the new Zealand Prime Minister, your cinder Ardoyne responded to President Trump when he asked what can you do when he called the prime minister? And she said respect the Muslim community. Eighty as she then put on a jab herself to comfort the families of those killed. We want to thank you miss stuff about you may for being with us author of this Muslim American life dispatches from the war on terror, professor at Brooklyn college. We'll linked to your piece in the guardian. This is democracy. Now, I'm Amy Goodman with one gun solace. We have job openings at democracy now dot org, and you can sign up for a newsletter there as well. Thanks so much.

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MOTW #26: Cardio against multiple attackers

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MOTW #26: Cardio against multiple attackers

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We're gonna talk today about combating multiple attackers something that comes up a lot. What i'm gonna talk about might might not be what you think. I know you have some preconceived notions of what i'm going to talk about when it comes to fighting multiple attackers. This podcast might not be what you think it means. So what are we talking about. First and foremost i talk about this all the time. You've heard me talk. Chat line was talked about jeffrey moulinex. Tim and i talked about it back. When this podcast. It's called the sheepdog project. If you find yourself going up against multiple attackers you you done fucked up. Okay you have failed in the situational awareness department right off the bat. You've made a crucial mistake. You've gotten yourself into a very bad situation relation if i'm more one out at night and it's not that often i'm i'm kind of a homebody. My wife and i don't go out all we'll go to concerts. Occasionally we got of course we live in austin area lots of musical stuff to do lots of great places to eat a i'm always aware of my surroundings always where where we parked in relationship to where we're going <hes>. I'm always aware of any crowds. That might be interacting with us going from point a. point b. and quite frankly. I don't let myself get in any situations where i'm going to have to go against multiple attackers. I don't walk up an antagonize groups of individuals. I don't <hes> knowingly walk past or through a group of suspicious looking individuals <hes> if i thought for a moment that a group of suspicious individuals individuals were following me or they were <hes>. They're running a grid and and trying to box me off i would i would react to that and i just wouldn't let me get into that situation. Nobody should ever go out there openly wanting to test themselves against multiple attackers multiple opponents. Why would you do that. That'll be a stupid thing to do so my question is if you wouldn't do that if we all agree that that would be a stupid thing to do. Why are there's so many people going against multiple opponents in their fight training when they're trading jujitsu and they're training their stand up and you're thinking to yourself. No you know doc. I've i've heard you talk about this before and i actually wish it was something my gym would do because i think that would be useful but we don't. We don't do that at my gym. It's you know one two guys one fight. No some of you are going against multiple opponents and you don't even realize that why what am i talking talking about that first multiple attacking you're going up against your opponent that you recognize as your trading partner but you're also going against yourself a second opponent and what do i mean by that. Well quite simply. If you are in poor physical condition you are not only fighting your opponent. You're fighting your own fat ass as well and i've had to deal with this before when i've been out of shape. I'm not just fighting my opponent. I'm fighting my own poor strength and fighting fighting my own poor cardio so it's literally like i'm fighting to people i'm fighting my opponent while at the same time time fighting my own decrepit ass. We've all been there right and this really got driven home for me i was i was rolling against john. Ramsey a <hes> the great black belt instructor that teaches at johns jim georgetown shout out to my home gym and we're in the middle of a roll. This was some time ago ago and he says to me he goes. Hey what you wanna do here yeah. He's trying to run against coaching me at the same time what you wanna do here's <unk> acts and i looked at him and i said yeah. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I got nothing left in the gas tank. I knew exactly exactly what moves. I needed to execute exactly how to execute them. I could not muster the physical strength or endurance to do so so the my brain was fighting a a black belt and fighting a fat ass fifty-three-year-old oh purple belt at the same time. I was fighting my i was fighting myself and that's what i'm talking about. When i'm talking about fighting multiple opponents and training that some of you are i'm doing it and you're short changing yourself and you're not progressing because of that on one hand. Somebody gets a all nodes. It's training with the weight vest on or you know. It's that way when you are in shape. You'll be that much better okay well. What are you waiting on. You know just like i tell people to say well. I want to get in shape before i go train. You and i say no go trade you jitsu because because you keep kicking the can down the road right and by all means. I'm not saying stop training ju jitsu until you get better shape. You need to continue doing that but you also need to get in better shape and if you call there was an episode we do the podcast again when it was the s._d._r. Podcast some time ago and we talked about strengthening conditioning running versus technique and it's really everything right if you have two people that are completely evenly matched on technique and one of them ms in better shape that person is going to come out on top but there have been times when i've rolled with people who are in better shape than i am but i have better technique than than they do right <hes> what you never wanna go up against this somebody who has better technique and is in better shape than you because then when you're going to get slugged which is the situation that i was in last thursday night rolling with tim basically getting slaughtered but even that there was a lot of learning points in it and walked away from that knowing that i'm doing much better than i had been previously so as i said that i talk about fighting multiple opponents. I'm talking about you. I'm talking talk about you. Fighting yourself <hes>. It's really evident your training and you'll see it. It was very evident might training. It's only been for me. I've i've been seriously back working out trying to get back in shape again and and seriously back on the mat again for about six weeks and those two have coincided with one another another. It wasn't like i started one and then started the other. It's because of the way my schedule worked out those to coincide with another six weeks ago when when i stepped into into jujitsu and got all the ribbing and all the jokes of oh hey whoa guy. The guy looks just like he used to train here. You know that type of thing. <hes> <hes> that first night was murder. I was absolutely dying by the second role and in conjunction with that during the day in the mornings i was going to do my strength and fitness training which i do at opec's round rock and a give them a plug as often as possible again not a paid endorsement. I pay for membership there. The opec system is amazing. If you live anywhere austin round rock georgetown pflueger ville area leander buta hutto i don't care you need to going to opec's round rock to train because absolutely amazing life changing for me that that's the plug. That's shoutout to my coach p._j. Brownell the amazing work that they do the amazing were with me. I'm still a work in progress as i said this has been evident in training in the big answer strength strength we're talking about the whole the tripod a fitness but cardio really has been the number one thing for me and getting my cardio and i have i've had some object objective and subjective measures of my cardio subjectively that i'm just feeling better definitely feeling better in my roles roles feel like i have more in the gas tank. <hes> got an objective look earlier when i did. I did a ten minute <hes> eco-cycle and could actually see the difference from where i was back in june and steadily making improvements. Which is what you want. You always want to be adding more weights. You always want to be put more reps. Send you always want to be improving all the time and i'm gonna talk more about subjective objective gauges of that and how it relates to your training and martial arts a little bit later on so as i said i've been <hes> i've been back at it for six weeks really last week was the first time i truly you could say that. I noticed difference so five weeks in took five weeks in to say okay. This is definitely paying off and i noticed it. I felt all better. I felt like i had more gas might trading partners commented on it that my response times quicker than i wasn't pausing the transitions as much <hes> that was coming going on the attack more. These were all things that i noticed and it was this was validated by the response that i got my training partners. There's nothing worse in training as i said when you when you're getting an isolated and you know exactly what you know i need i need to go belly down and get my elbows and knees up under me and then jump in for that that single leg from the ground knowing that that's exactly what you need to do to get out of the situation but your tongues hanging on the mat you have your wobbly your shaky and you just can't do it. There's there's no worse feeling than that now. I want you to imagine that feeling. When it's a life or death situation i want you to magin that feeling of aw knowing that escape is just inches away from you knowing that defeating your opponent is just one hit bump one move away from you one one right cross away from you and you don't have the strength endurance to muster to do that. It's imagine late you're in the deep into the pool and swimming swimming as hard as you can from the surface and you're literally your face and your nose is three inches from the surface three inches from getting precious oxygen. Dan and you just can't push anymore. Your legs just can't kick anymore and you start to sink back down to the bottom of the pool. That's what it feels as like. That's what that's put in realistic terms. That's what it would feel like if you ran out of gas in a life or death situation in life or death combatants situation and you don't want to be there and i mean. Do you really want to be on your last breath your whole life flashing before your eyes knowing that if you were to send a little little bit better shape you could have survived you. Could've you could've gone home. Senior wife and kids got. I can't even imagine what that would feel like it. Just how awful that would feel. You do not want to be there. So what do you do. What do we need to do. What do we need to do to be in shape and i've talked about this before. I've harped on this before and i'm gonna talk about some things that i've i've already talked about. I'm gonna reflect on some of the specific exercises exercises that i'm doing just because i really want to drive this point home and also because i've noticed i tracked the feedback and the downloads that i get on a podcast and i see what you are the most interested in and when i'm talking about fitness and talk about what i'm doing. I get a lot of positive feedback from that and it's it's something i can pretty <unk>. Put out there. I'm not a fitness coach. I'm not an expert so the information that i'm giving you. I'm just giving you a window into what five foot six hundred eighty seven pound fifty-three-year-old mike simpson is doing currently his curse data fitness and that's right. I i currently one hundred eighty seven pounds. They got on the scale last friday. <hes> i planted on track that down. I'm not setting any. I'm not specifically set any goals times or anything like that. Ideally i'd like to be between one hundred seventy one hundred seventy five pounds again. That's a really good walking around. Wait for me but also that i'm building muscle and i'm getting stronger as long as i my digital is improving. If the needle on the scale is not budging. I'm not really overly concerned with that. I mean the the scale is just numbers if my performance is improving and i'm feeling better every day and the scale doesn't go down. Hey whatever that's ideally i'd like four to i think longevity wise especially from my frame. That's going to be better for me but i'm not overly concerned. <hes> i'm eating better better. I'm exercising more and more efficiently so overtime. I should see that is going to be a lifestyle thing. I didn't get here overnight and i know expect to get out of this overnight. I don't have bikini season or or a modeling shoot coming up that i got to get in shape for so i'm gonna do it at my own pace. I'm just going to keep working out. Keep feeling healthy and hopefully i'll get there. We'll see and all day you guys as it goes along but just so you know those are my my metric numbers right there for what they're worth and as you guys know i don't necessarily a whole lot of credence in us so let's talk about this strength endurance and explosiveness see all those things right. You need to be strong. You need to have long term. Endurance and you also need to have the ability to do very very intense and very brief explosive <hes> activities and this this was a conversation that came up in one of the online forums recently only the question that was put out there was hey should should i be doing long distance runs or should i be doing sprints and a lot of people had opinions on this and a lot. Most people were kind of coming on the side of well. Hey if you think about it from the point of view from and this was being approachable law enforcement standpoint so if you're gonna fight somebody right. You're not gonna fight somebody for forty five minutes. You're going to be in a fight for two to ten minutes so doing sprints for five to fifteen eighteen minutes and having that explosive energy that's what you want and i weighed in on that and i said look as not a law enforcement officer what if this is a situation law like like las vegas like el paso <hes> one of these linear areas where an incident has occurred. You have to park a long long ways away. You're basically running. Slash jogging up to the point of engagement. You get to one spot up. Nope not here there. Get to the next button. No no no not here there. We saw somebody over there. You think about how many miles somebody's gonna cover that the length of time they're going to be running in whatever turnout gear they happen to be wearing right where that's the standard issue your regular everyday street patrol gear or full body armor and a car being whatever whatever they might be. You're still moving an extended period of time then when you get somewhere you might have to engage and it could be not even talking in about an m._c._i. This could be in a housing project or a mall where there's been an altercation or somebody caught shoplifting and they put up a fight. Whatever that might be jobs. Jobs jobs jobs foam explosive energy so you really need to off. You'd have both for multiple reasons. It's and it's healthier to have both even if you never are going to utilize those it's healthier to have both because they're different pathways hathaway's either the way that our body utilizes energy. We're doing aerobic cardio and typically in the yellow zone kind of a job for sustained sustained period of time were using one way of burning energy and then when we go into that explosive. I need energy right now and we tend to red zone own ourselves. We move usually a lotta times move into an anaerobic threshold and that's different too and your body needs to be adaptive to both of those so they're gonna be both which means you need to train both and as i said at the onset you need to be training strength as well. I'm gonna talk about some specific functional weightlifting stuff when you guys know that i do this before i talk about the exercise that my coach p._j. Has me doing and how they relate directly to martial arts self defense to present jujitsu jitsu talk about their so. Let's talk about what you're doing or should be doing rather in your excise to be doing these long. Slow burns right right extended periods in the yellow and these intervals sprints the short periods in the red and if you follow me on instagram and if you're not you should be ah dr mike simpson you'll see that when i do what i do hit intervals and stuff like that you can see my heart tracing because i wear the my zone right so at the bottom autumn you'll see how much time spending in yellow how much time i'm spending and read and depending on what type intervals i'm doing sometimes dropping all the way down into green recently columbus coffee talk some trying to be quieter with that to be respectful to my listeners recently watching watching the u._f._c. embedded series of the upcoming fight that i'm very excited about <hes> between d. c. and steep a unfortunately also really excited about the perez as india's fight. Unfortunately great thing is happening in the simpson family this weekend. My son's going to texas an so. I'm i'm going to be up at texas a. and m. saturday night. Hopefully builder arrange dinner someplace that i can watch the fight or i can watch <hes> e._s._p._n. Plus or fight pass on my phone but be that as it may watching the u._f._c. and ben series on youtube this week <hes> showed steep steep a training on the echo bike and what is coach had him doing is these yellow yellow burns right so he's in the yellow zone so his heart rate <hes>. We're talking about price seventy to eighty percent right. He's as you're probably running somewhere in the in the blow one fifties on his heart rate in the yellow zone and he's maintaining that because that's what he's going to do in a fight you know you're going to be moving around. You're going to be amped up bobbing weaving it'd be avoiding takedown. We try to inflict damage. You're going to be protecting yourself. These are going to be periods where you're moving around around doing the dance and you're in the yellow zone and then there's going to be brief periods flurries where you're going to fight your way out of a corner or you see an opportunity to inflict some real damage you go in for a takedown shakedown where you're gonna go up into the red zone for brief periods and his coach has him doing that at odd and unpredictable intervals that he's going along yellow yellow yellow art turn it on turn on turn on push push push push push not letting them know how many seconds those are and then back off and then back on 'cause sometimes you get right out of trouble you. You think you're gonna get a breather and boom. You're right back at it again. I think this is a great approach. You know we talk about ways to shock. The body and debates have gone back and forth about with actually does anything and i think from a mental aspects cedo fatigue mentally. I think that's very important to train your body to be able to switch that on and off so if you get a chance to watch that embedded video watch what they're doing and i'm going to do a deeper dive into exactly how they set that up because that looks like something than when i'm when i'm traveling in math set up workouts on my own which i sometimes have to do because i sometimes can't predict what i'm going to have available to me. <hes> that looks like something that i might be interested in the future so talking about strength and talking about functional strength i talk. I just got done talking about how you want to do that. Yellow l. ozone burn and the high intensity intervals right and actually look at my notes taking notes <hes> <hes> let me let me talk briefly about this so this is a technique that i used previously when designing my own training regiment and this is something i used actually all all through an afghanistan deployment worked really well for me is i had it set up so mondays wednesdays and fridays i would do runs or ellipticals. I would do that between forty five and sixty minutes so that was that was periods of long sustained endurance right. My heart rate typically in the mid had one forties just doing a slow burn old company. I started used to call l._s._d. Runs long slow distance right so burn a lot out of calories working in that aerobic threshold for long periods of time. That's what i would do monday wednesdays fridays and then it would follow that up <hes> money was friday typically for me <hes> or sets pushups and then various weightlifting exercises then tuesday thursday and saturday i would do thirty minutes of high high intensity interval training typically what i do for that is the boss rootin- all around fighting in the boss rootin- kickboxing a d._v._d. Set it's it's now available on an m._p. Three and listen to that you get through in thirty minutes you have two minute rounds or three minute rounds doing very very very high intensity striking and sprawling and sit outs and then you have a minute rest right and that that's a great way also to train yourself shelf to do your breathing techniques to get your heart rate back down again great-great-great routine so three days a week i was doing the long yellow was own stuff and then two days a week. I was doing high intensity interval stuff for that explosive and over a period of about ninety days. I've gotten pretty phenomenal shape doing that. <hes> i was combining that with some some weightlifting afterwards because they're trying to do strengthen combination with that every day a little bit more weightlifting on the on the days that i was doing the hit training <hes> because i had a little bit more time we're limited on how much time we had <hes> to work out every day when i was deployed but that's something something that worked well for me but it wasn't as good in all around fitnesses. I'm going for now because i'm going more for against strength. Durability joint strength strength especially as i get a little bit older <hes> so that's the program then looking at now. I'm gonna give you guys a little snapshot. I've done this before <hes> with good feedback so i'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna talk a little bit about what i did this week. So mondays starting off my my workout routine on monday. I worked a un on it's weird. There's actually some exercises missing from this but no new not deal did a ring rose and a half have cable chop in a in a super set combination so ring rosa course work in the lats all the muscles you know to to pull an opponent toward you half kneeling cable chop <hes> think think of all the muscles that you would normally work. If you're doing an arm throw <hes> judo. Throw throwing throwing somebody over your back. You're basically doing that twisting movement that pulling down movement <hes> switched up this week from last week. I was doing a glued bridge. Regular bar bench press my coach which may have to glue bridge dumbbell bench press so what i'm doing is i'm on the ground. I'm doing a bridge and then do a dumbbell presses so think about this from the point of view of how this is going to help pew in fighting what do you do. You tried to get an opponent off. You're right it you trying to shuck it opponent whether the whether they're mount whether they're inside control whenever might be you're. You're doing you bridging movements right so this is working all the muscles from the bridging movement of more of an it's an isometric hold non-explosive movement and then also benchpress press dumbbell bench so it's just like if i'm on my back i'm bridging up and pushing an opponent off me. I'm working all of those muscles so great exercise for you to do if your fire absolutely the group ridge dumbbell bench press you can look up videos of a combined that a super set withstanding cable external rotation so again working those core rotational muscles really good for overall health overall stability <hes> that i did a ten minute echo bike for max calories. That was something my coach coach had me do as a gauge wanted to see where i was at. I went up from seventy nine calorie burn in june to a ninety seven caliber and i probably could have given a little bit more but i knew i had more exercise to do so i i hate to admit this but i kind of sandbag a little bit at the end and didn't go for one hundred next time <hes> then <hes> so that's basically all the strength that i did on monday then worked into doing some cardio so i did three sets at maintainable containable pace two hundred foot double kettlebells front rack carey so front red carries are great. <hes> it puts stress on your body. Put stress on your upper upper chest so it's like breathing with an opponent on top you as you're traversing a these two hundred feet did that with two sixteen kilogram kettlebells <hes> <hes> then jumped on the skier for ten calories real quick jumped off did ten per side cross body dumbbell romanian dead lift so that's working a lotta back working a lot of the the gluts lower back muscles xausa. It's going to give me good posture good overall back health then ten per side lying lying clam shells which was a new exercise for me. <hes> i've got some issues with my hips. I need to strengthen those up also get a little bit more flexibility and that's why as me working with that then i did two minutes on the echo bike as arrest just on a slow spin and i did. I did what you just heard for three sets so that kept me pretty much in the yellow zone. The whole time kind of dip and down into the green zone on that slow spin was a great way to finish out the workout on that day and i actually she had a little bit more in the tank and it was monday so i jumped on the bike and i did another ten minute cool down on the bike on that day because i knew i wasn't going to train monday night. Tuesday tuesdays tend to be a little bit more strength days for me. My coach knows that i do jiu jitsu on tuesday night tuesday and thursday night so he kind of keeps it in a little little bit more strength little less endurance did safety bar squats supercenter was seated cable rose so obviously anytime you're doing squad. Exercises sizes are great overall exercise. My big thing is going as low as i possibly can literally trying to touch my but to the ground and coming all the way up. I don't do a lot of weight wait. I do not do a lot of weight at all <hes> to me. It's it's all about form and not about putting a bunch of plates on the bar. Just isn't and again supercenter with a c._d. Cable cable row so that's all of those nice pulling muscles that i need to pull an opponent to arm drag to pull those lapels into me whatever it might be and this was a triple so i did that with an incline dumbbell crush press press so basically it's an incline press but with dumbbells but you're pushing them together so you're pushing in as you're pushing knob bob sorry that that was superseded with staggered stance romanian dead lift same deals i talked about with the <hes> the dumbbell romanian dead left working all that back chain and the half kneeling lateral med ball throw so inclined dumbbell crush press staggered stance already l. and a half kneeling collateral med ball. Throw were a triple set the half kneeling lateral med ball throw so you get about two feet away from a wall with perp tasing perpendicular not facing the wall so i'm sorry facing parallel to the wall <hes> leg closest knee up and you're basically swinging pam medicine ball into the wall and then catching. You'd be surprised how high your heart rate gets doing that so it's it's all throwing motion stuff so it's same stuff that i'm doing what i'm doing. Sandbag throws over my shoulder to get used to doing that high crotch single leg stuff like this. This is all rotational zocor. <hes> it's got some arms to get the power generated to throw an opponent except i'm throwing it into the wall and it's coming right back to me. You can look up youtube videos of half kneeling lateral med ball. Throw a great exercise. Check it out after that. I finished up with four cents for quality and again. This was more for strength than it is for any type of endurance eight. The precise rear foot elevated split squat. <hes> student foot elevated split-squad has worked wonders for my knees. My niece strengthen my niece stability. I i did that on twelve inches. I did it with twenty pound dumbbells in each side then i did <hes> thirty seconds side single leg hollow holds both sides with a ten and second rest in between <hes> then i did a eight double push-up burke's and then ten calorie salary on ten calories on the rower and ninety second rest so nice pace didn't kind of flirted with the low yellow zone own awad but mostly this is about about building strength today oh and then i ju jitsu that night and burn another thousand calories at ju jitsu pretty much all of these independent two thousand calorie workouts. That's kind of a goal that i set for myself and typically if i'm not there i'll jump on the bike or something to burn a few more so jujitsu was last night today. Today is a sustained power days that means a lot of high cardio lot lot of yellow zone time starts me on with a warm up ah do fourteen rotations so seven each of four pull ups and four dips with seventy five second interval in between so that's just kind have a warm up to build volume on my push on my pull ups and on my dips so should i've talked about this before but pull ups really important exercise for overall fitness really really important exercising grappling and fighting right what you're doing if you're putting your hands bein if you're doing a thai clinch on your tenure pulling pulling down you are pulling somebody into you. Pull yourself out of danger. Whatever it might be dips goes without saying that's all the muscles. That's that's lower packs. That's tricep that some shoulder that she pushing up and out really important exercise so i do that basically as a strength warm up then and i go into the four sets of sustained power which today were changed up today so it was a two hundred meter. I'm sorry two hundred foot sled push with forty. I five pound plate on the sled. I probably go a little bit heavier next week. Then ten deficit pushups i did those forty five pound plates. Then <hes> grab the sixty pound sandbag did ten sandbag dead lifts immediately went from the dead lift to throwing that sandbag up over across my shoulders and and doing that same two hundred foot walk out back with the sandbag on my shoulders ten single arm ring rose so all i was doing ring ring holds last week so that's again anything pulling that opponent into me whether it's an arm drag lapel poll whatever might be ten butterfly sit ups which is a a new exercise for me so obviously that's core and then jumping on the echo bike for an easy spin for two minutes and doing four rotations of that <hes> that was i basically kept it sustained in push. I didn't push to try to go too fast and i managed to keep it pretty much heart rate it one forty five to one fifty five throughout all of that in that ended up being right at thirty four minutes. I think doing so great workout so that was my workout today tonight. I have a night off which is pretty nice which is why and podcasting right now but that's what i've done thus far during the week and how it relates to my fitness when it comes to fighting hope that was helpful again. I got great feedback back when i talked about this before two guys appreciate it. Let me know if you don't appreciate you want me to cover something else. Let me know that too <hes> really important. They do all three that you do. Strength that you do arabic endurance and that you do high intensity interval training for those anaerobic bursts because inefficient in a survival situation. You're going to need all three and you know a lot of people. What i do is not cross fit. It looks it's very cross fit. Ask a lot of people not cross fit but especially as i'm older. I see a lot of advantages in the way that things are done definitely only better than how we used to go. The tortsen egger style of monday is is just and tries and tuesday's back in buys and the however we used to do it definitely. This is more comprehensive. It's definitely more focused. I told you before that was going to talk a little bit about subjective and objective measures of how you doing physically the subject of measures. I think are very almost more important than the objective active measures and i'm gonna tell you why because the object of measure of bomb lifting more weight right it's i can squat more than i could two months ago. That's great. That's <hes> that's objective. That is data right we can we can quantify that but the subject of the i'm just feeling better jujitsu. <hes> and i feel like i'm spending more time in dominant position and i and i feel like you know unless you're graphing how much time you're dominant position in graphing how many submissions you're getting <hes> per class. I don't know maybe are but to me. That part is almost more important and one thing that i want to stress in this is the need to do. Both if you're just doing jujitsu you you're going to stagnate for the reason of you're just not going to get enough overall fitness and you're going to be hurt more and i know that for a fact i mean it's it's been unproven if we used to joke about it right. We used to say you know. What do you do for to work out. I do jujitsu. What do you do cardio mortgages zoo and it was a joke but it was partially true because a lot of us dan a lot of the old timers did that but i think scientifically. We know a little bit more about it. Now we know that it's better for you do your training strength and conditioning and you're also training techniques ju jitsu and you're gonna you're gonna be healthier. You're not going to be hurt and training as much and you're going to be more effective again because you're not fighting that other opponent of your unfit self. You don't wanna be doing that. Some some gyms do conditioning some. Don't i've trained at gyms where the first thirty minutes or more of class. You're doing firemen's carries. He's and you're going up and down the matt multiple times and doing push ups and burpee and everything else typically when i took when i was taken moee tie i saw a lot more of that that we're doing more conditioning because it was like it was like being in a boxing camp now so you're you're getting it. All a lot of ju. Jitsu schools have gotten away from that and i think a lot of it has to do with their recognized that yeah people there to get fit but they also wanted to ju jitsu. You are going to get fit fit doing jujitsu just doing the regular warm up doing the moves doing the drills and then rolling. If you're coming in off the street in a poor state of fitness. That's gonna get you in a better state of fitness undeniable but they're not most jiu. Jitsu academies are not gonna give you you were a well rounded fitness routine and i can tell you on that you know. I've been to atomic fitness here. In austin and i see all the instructors from gracie. Who might do they're right there. They're not depending on jujitsu to get their fitness. They recognize that a comprehensive strength and fitness vince program is important <hes> and i think it really is. I don't think i can overstate that the reason i think it's important that you do both <hes> <hes> from from both angles and bear with me for this is jujitsu if you're doing fitness a fitness is your primary primary concern in just jujitsu is not your primary concern doing jujitsu in conjunction with your fitness routine again a gives as you those real world. They might be subjected but they're still real world feedback on how you doing physically you know yes. I know oh that i'm squatting more yes. I know that my bench press has gone up. Yes i know that i can i'm. I'm doing more burke's than i was two months ago but is that translating relating into something that i might have to do in real life to save my life and i think jujitsu gives you that answer. Jujitsu is a great metric of what you're doing in the gym and the and in my case what i'm doing in the gym revolves around what i wanna do jujitsu and what i wanna do competitive sports and i think it's so important to do. Both i think the the fitness make sure jujitsu better and i think that ju jitsu makes your fitness better. I think the to to feed off of one another. There's incredible synergy there because the better that you're doing on the mat the more energized you are going to the gym because when i went to the gym for the sake of going to the gym it was old. It was tired. It was mundane. Yeah i can keep it up for about six months at a time and then i would i would just lose it frank so if i stopped going to the gym i slacked off at the gym is now as soon as i saw myself slacking off on the math since i saw saw myself this of losing ground on the mat that would reenergize me and what i'm doing in the gym so i think it's really important. I think both the game's going to help your gym game in the gym games. Gonna help that game. I want you to look at it that way and i know a lot of your thinking hey doc. I don't have the flexible schedule that you have i do. I'm i'm blessed. I've got pretty flexible schedule. There's a few different ways. You can skin this cat. If if you're going to do in the evenings right. Let's say you're going during like most people ends up being whether it's a monday wednesday or a tuesday thursday whatever it might be <hes> if you work a job job where you gotta be there early in the morning you can't go to the gym in the morning and you definitely don't want to try to do two days with work sandwiched in between hey that's fine. What i'm i'm saying in your case. Then is on the days that you're not doing jujitsu. Those aren't days off those need to become strength and conditioning days and i encourage you ed plug. My gym opec's round rock. If you look up opec's opie e. x. Online you can get remote coaching and i encourage you actually do it through opec's round rock because they do it through their don't just do it through one of the other affiliates. They can do remote coaching for you. I don't care where are you are in the country. You tell them what you have to work with. Whether that's a home gym or at a anytime fitness whatever might be and they'll design a workout program graham designed for you around what your fitness goals are and the days of the week that you haven't vailable. This is not a paid advertisement. I'm just telling you the way it is so let's say that i lived somewhere a rural area <hes> you know i had a place where i could train ju jitsu train tuesday nights and thursday nights <hes> i would get with a coach and i would say all right tuesday and thursday night. I'm doing jujitsu so monday wednesday friday. I want to have some type of workout routine and possibly saturday to get an that gives you one whole rest day per week right because that's that's basically what i'm doing is four days in the gym this week and two to three days on the map that that's my goal every week so why you guys can be you doing i if schedule permits is set aside an hour hour and a half every night you're already doing a couple of nights for jujitsu set aside another as a minimum three nights for your conditioning for your strength and conditioning training and you'll be really glad you didn't notice a tremendous tremendous improvement your your digital game. You'll be more clear of mind. You won't be completely smoked when there's thirty seconds left in that role and all you gotta do do is to nail that sweep to get a dominant position and you're already lined up to go for that submission. You won't have to gas on on so you can't do it. When you got the gloves on and you're down on your mouthpiece and you're getting the crap beat out here in the corner and there's less than a minute left in the round and you'll have enough in the gas tank. You'll have enough because you've you've stressed yourself in the gym that you can grit down on your mouthpiece and fight fight your way out of it. I can't tell you how important is that. You do both together and i've seen more and more and more as i've gotten older so take my advice the benefits of all the miles that i have on me again. I'm not a fitness coach. I'm not an expert in health and fitness but fitness has been something that i've had to do my entire adult life. I know what works what doesn't and i know it's better for me as i've gotten older as my body doesn't heal quite as well so i hope you'll take that for what it's worth so what about to a circle this all back what about multiple attackers right since a lot of you you tune in and i did a little bait and switch on you. I made this all about cardio and fitness. <hes> what about multiple attackers well for as much as we talk about dot technique right whether that's in boxing thai when that's jujitsu if you have to fight more than one person. It's not just going to be about your technique technique. It's not great because that's that adds a fourth dimension to your game completely at that point. It really is gonna come down to. Are you strong enough. Are you fit enough because i say this all the time. Just you need to avoid void situation to begin with. You need to be prepared to reach for your side arm and clear leather. That's what's the best technique against multiple attackers glock fu in my opinion but run food can work too so you may may have to kohl-kok somebody or pick somebody up and dump them on their ass or the literally throw them at their buddies studies and then just run just haul ass but the fact of the matter is if two three or even four individuals grab a hold of you. Your technique nick is probably not going to be what saves you. Your strength and fitness is more likely going to be what saves you in that situation so you you better be able to draw on it because the old saying fight like your that third monkey on the ramp of the arc and the rain is starting to come down. That's literally what you're going to have to do to get out of that situation and techniques going to be important no-one no-one how to throw a right cross knowing how to bob and weave and do some footwork is going to be important knowing how to get that under hook and and go for a gopher judo throw is going to be important but how much gas you gun the gas tank and fighting to save give your own life until help arrives or until you can find an exit is going to be the most important thing you can do in my opinion to fight off. Those multiple assailants silence so that for what it's worth i know i keep promise you guys a multiple attackers probably gonna have to do that in video format and on that subject i am planning thing. I've got a youtube channel setup. I don't have any videos there will be some videos coming expect them in the next six months <hes> some instructional stuff stuff that i'm going to go back to the experts and my good friends at sheepdog response and get with them see if we can put together some pretty good instructional videos that revolve around some some of the things that i've talked about on this podcast really quick for we close up for for this episode. I wanna give a shout out to j._d. Mcmillan in australia australia get a mate who sent me an email recommending that i keep my eyes peeled for ozzy film. It's going to be released. Called danger close use the battle of long tan and it's about a kick ass australian unit in vietnam and i'm looking forward to checking that out when it does come out. Thank you j. d. for recommend that i certainly will look at that and i'll try to do a review of it if at all possible on the podcast if i can keep the emails come and make sure you're going to my website dr mike simpson dot com. That's d. r. e. s. I m. p. s. o. n. Dot com follow me on social media all the links somebody social media there on the website you can also contact and submit an email to me right there through the website as well as access all these podcast and find a link into the ranger up doc simpson collection right there on my web page. Don't forget to check out ranger up and check out our affiliates over in strikeforce energy dot com <hes> use your promo codes at checkout to save some big bucks and make sure you follow me on all social media. Thanks for your time together really appreciated. Keep all the emails common. I think i'm finally kind of getting caught up. You guys have done a lot better on brevity with your questions which i greatly appreciate today. I'm going to close out with a quote that i have used before but i think in light of what we talked about. Today is very fitting and that quote is from the late great coach vince vince lombardi who said fatigue makes cowards of us all. Don't forget that everybody remember that. Remember your cardio and until next time live life like a warrior yeah.

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