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Day 1,174: Trump says he downplayed coronavirus because he's America's cheerleader
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The president said all of that stuff he was saying a few weeks back about corona virus. The cases will go to zero. It will disappear. We're totally prepared. Democratic hoax comparing it to the flu saying in the warmth of April that will miraculously go away all of that was because he regards himself as a cheerleader for our country today about his team. He said we've done a great job. Not a good job but a great job he said today. Maybe we are getting to the top of the curve. He also Kinda claimed credit for curing a woman of the corona virus. He said she's a Democrat. African American with a beautiful manner of speaking. She appeared on Fox News last night. To say she took the hydrochloric win on the president's recommendation and it was like a miracle. He didn't stop there on that front. He is selling hydrochloric when he said it again. Today I say try it. You'RE NOT GONNA die from this pill. The side effects he said are from the antibiotic the Zithromax Z. Pack he repeated. I really think it's a great thing to try today. The president went after the World Health Organization and to be clear this. This is a Fox. News Hobbyhorse even though on February tenth. He said they were doing a fantastic job. The thought here is to blame the. Who for downplaying? The risk from China. It also lets. The president continued to say largely unchallenged that he closed our borders to China. Even though about four hundred thousand people continued to fly ear and that he closed our borders to Europe which was never true back here in the real world. New York City reached peak health scape today averaging one death every two minutes over eight hundred new deaths over fifty eight hundred new cases just today nationwide. The death toll is pushing thirteen thousand. There are some encouraging signs. China has ended. Its lockdown of wool. Han The city where the virus that has shaken the planet was first discovered for the people. There it means daylight after seventy six days inside and the slow push to get life back to normal starting tomorrow their time the rest of the world is still grappling with the pandemic more than one point. Four million people are infected across the globe tonight. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in intensive care is government says he has not been put on a ventilator at the White House. The president seemed to be trying to prepare the country for increasingly difficult days to come. This will be a very painful week and next week at least part of next week. There's a monster were fighting but signs are that our strategy is totally working. We're looking to have far fewer deaths than originally thought and I think we're heading in that direction. President also said he was concerned about the number of African Americans who are now dying from Cova. Nineteen saying he didn't like it. New York and New Jersey both reported their highest one day toll in virus related deaths today. But New York's governor also found reason for optimism. Code number of newly hospitalized is up from yesterday but when you look at this three day averaging of these numbers the three day average is down which is good news. We are reaching a plateau and the total number of hospitalizations. And you can see the growth and you see it. Starting to flatten again this is a projection. It's still depends on what we do. And what we do will affect those numbers across the river on the Jersey side. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy extended that State's public health emergency by thirty days. Closing state parks keeping schools shuttered in an effort to further social distancing. Something he says seems to be working officials into other hotspots Louisiana and Detroit. Say they're also beginning to see the impact of keeping people off the streets. We're seeing early signs that the mitigation their efforts are starting to pay off. We are seeing early signs that the curve is starting to lamb. This is the first glimmer of light we have seen from the data since this pandemic started the storms over but for the first time we can see we can beat this even Disney is looking ahead saying theme park. Visitors may encounter temperature checks on that day when the parks reopened. Meanwhile there are more questions. About what the president knew in the early days of this pandemic today. He was asked about the New York Times report. We talked about on our broadcast last night on memos written by his then trade advisor Peter Navarro back in January warning about almost predicting potentially devastating impact of the corona virus. When did you see them? And how does that square with what you've often said that nobody could predict because it sounds like he was predicted? I didn't see him but I heard he wrote a memo talking about pandemic. I didn't see him. I didn't look for them either. I asked him about it just a little while ago because I read something about a memo that used to why didn't look for it and see he said yes. I talked about the possibility of Pandera. Nobody said it's going to happen but you know there is a possibility. There always has been a possibility. I obviously was concerned about it because I closed down our country to China which was heavily infected. I then closed it down to Europe but I'm not going to go out and start screaming. This could happen. This could happen so again as President. I think president has to be a cheerleader for their country. Also of note today more staff shakeups in the West Wing. The president removed the Inspector General. Who would have led the committee overseeing the two trillion dollar corona virus package? The Acting Navy secretary resigned today days after relieving a respected Navy aircraft carrier captain of his duties. Yesterday Thomas Mode suggested Captain Brent Crozier had been stupid and naive when he voiced concern over the spread of the virus on the Teddy Roosevelt and for his crew and trump has yet another new press secretary. Though you'd be forgiven if you didn't know the departing press secretary. Most Americans could not identify her from a photo. Stephanie Grisham served as Press Secretary for nine months without ever giving a press briefing as for her replacement what we know so far is she is on message when it comes to trump's handling of the corona virus. The woman on the right in. This video is a now fired. Fox News Anchor. The woman on the left who you'll hear defending trump. She would be the new press secretary. This president will always put America first. He will always protect American citizens. We will not see diseases. Like the corona virus. Come here we will not see terrorism. Come here and isn't that refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency. It President Obama the president's taking control making sure we're safe from the corona virus. And he's doing everything right. Since president has under control in America. We'll see that just like with every single international incident. He knows what he's doing. Good point to begin our leadoff discussion here on a Tuesday night. Was Philip. Rucker White House Bureau chief for The Washington Post also happens to be CO author with his post colleague. Carol leg of the best selling book a very stable Genius Shannon petty piece veteran journalists senior White House reporter for us at NBC News. Digital and Dr Are Mecha- dodger. He's an expert in emergency medicine. Infectious Diseases also a senior scholar with the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Health. Good evening and welcome to you all Shannon. I'd like to begin with you. Should we be concerned that the president says he never saw the memo warning of a potential pandemic up to and including as of today sensitive been written about in the New York Times last night? Well this is what we know about this memo from Peter Navarro Navarro since around a lot of memos and at this point the feeling inside the West Wing prior to this so in January. When this memo was written was that this was just another. Peter Navarro memo. He comes up with a lot of ideas. That people in the West Wing characterizes harebrained ideas. He is often predicting tragedy. These are the words of people in the West Wing who we spoke to and this was sort of written off just another one of Peter. Navarro's you know concerns or some people would describe conspiracy theories and he wasn't really voice. That was being listened to in the West Wing. Well this is the one time he was Kinda right on target but I will say he was the only one in the administration who was sounding the alarm on this when they saw an entire city of millions of people in China locked down. You didn't necessarily have to be You know a public health expert to understand that maybe there was something going on there. I mean there have been reports by my colleagues others about reports coming out of the army reports coming out of the intelligence community that all predicted that this is something really serious That could be coming to the US. And we've asked the president about those before and he's continued to say that either he wasn't aware of them or as we heard today that he was aware of them. And that's why he will supposedly lockdown China even though of course it wasn't a lockdown because there were tens of thousands of people who traveled from Chinese to the US But you know but he's continued to sort of right off the potential for these early warning signs but I do think When we step back even further wants this is all over we will find a number of additional steps an addition to the ones we already know about where people within the administration were attempting to sound the alarm Back in January even as far back as late December worker. I believe we have a portion of today's briefing where the president went after the World Health Organization. It's all kind of enmeshed with China. It's all enmeshed with politics and we'll play a bit of that and talk about it on the other side World Health Very China centric as I say very very basically everything was very positive for China. Don't close your borders. They told me that I mean. They strongly recommended that telling me but they strongly recommended that we not close our borders. That would have been a disaster would have been a total disaster and literally. They called every shot wrong for years. We've funded them in and it's probably spending at least fifty eight million a year but it's much more than that because then we fund some of the work. They do which is good work. But we're going to look at it now so I was off by three hours Phil he first one after the. Who at the briefing? He then phoned into Hannity Tonight. Three hours later to go after the. Who again tell the Nice folks watching? What does it work here at work here? Brian is a president WHO's under siege. Because he didn't take. Coruna virus seriously enough at the outset and is now casting blame. We've seen the last couple of weeks him. Try to target specific governors For their failures in leadership according to him and then today we saw him introduced this idea that the World Health Organization was to blame because they were not tough enough on China at the outset did not declare pandemic or early enough. This is all according to the President Assessment and You know it fits a pattern in this presidency were. This president has so little regard or faith in international institutions. We've seen him go. After NATO. For example. We've seen him try to tear apart alliances and multilateral trade deals and here again we see him going after a another global institution of the World Health Organization. And I imagine it's going to continue because it's an easy way for him to to message to his base is political supporters to say. Don't fault me all these other guys. Hey Dr the president continues to push this. Malaria medicine couldn't have been more direct today. Said people should just take it. What do you say and can you fill our audience and on something? We're hearing more about. Its these antibody tests. Sure so when it comes to hydroxy chloroquine. Everybody's shouldn't just take it. If this is a drug that needs to be studied in a randomized controlled trial to know whether or not it works. Who WORKS ON? What the doses. What the side effect profile is. It's true that this is a drug that's approved and been given to lots of patients with lupus and there's a derivative that's used for malaria but we WANNA make sure that we're actually using it correctly and it does have in vitro activity and I've prescribed it to patients that are hospitalized with pneumonia from krona virus. But I'm not giving it to every patient and I'm doing it. According to a protocol and at the same time I really WANNA randomized controlled trial to help us. So I don't think it's the right thing to tell people to go out and get it and create an increased demand for something that isn't quite proven it should be given in a controlled. Setting antibody tests are really important tool that we will start to have come online many different places around the country. What that will do is tell us if someone has been exposed to this virus maybe they had mild illnesses. Maybe they didn't have any symptoms at all and that will help us understand where this has spread and some of those people will likely be immune from infection. Meaning that they can go about their lives. They can be the ones that are working and they can help. Bring the economy back to life. So it's really important that we get. Antibodies has out there because it is a way forward into the next phase of this pandemic response Shannon pretty piece. We mentioned the new faces in the West Wing. Starting with a new chief of staff and now a new press secretary very familiar with frequency N. N. viewers. She made her bones on that network during the last presidential election cycle defending all things trump related. And I love these moves. Even though we're in the middle of this incredible pandemic are related to the reelection campaign Bringing Mark Meadows. He is someone who is politically savvy who is season defending the president on. Tv was a move for the reelection. And now the new Press Secretary Kaley mckinney is very well known on Fox News and conservative. Tv She was a CNN contributor She's very skilled at defending the president on television and she knows the type of messaging that the campaign is working for and can be a real conduit between the White House and the campaign There's other people in the administration. Now who have been acting as a link between the White House in the campaign Jared Kushner talks regularly with Brad Part scale. The campaign manager Hope Hicks has been brought back into the White House. She of course was on the twenty sixteen campaign and is really familiar with how the campaign operates. Leo But but Kayleigh I think is really the most recently and obviously the most person who has been the most directly involved with the campaign. Who's now in the White House and can start Coordinating and building those bridges between the reelect. And what's happening the message coming out of the White House and the president so even a amid all of this there is still going to be an election in November and everyone in the White House is still aware of that and and while so much administration is obviously focused on responding to this. There's certainly still as always one I November and Phil Rucker. That newspaper you work for is reporting that these two elements. I just mentioned new chief of staff. New Press Secretary are related. Yeah they certainly are Brian because the you know Mark Meadows a minute the chief of staff looking to really jump start the campaign operation inside the West Wing this heading into the general election and he brought in Keighley mcenaney as the press secretary as Shannon with just pointing out. Our understanding are reporting today. Is that Kaley? Mckinney's main job is going to be the go. On television to defend the president not necessarily a dealing our to our day to day with reporters at Meadows has bolstered the press in other areas including bringing on a list of Faira a highly regarded press operative over at the Pentagon to come to the West Wing in deal in a more behind the scenes role. But this is all about image. And that's first and foremost The president's priority especially in an election year to have defenders on TV to have people pushing his messages and his defenses to the public as often as possible. Doctor Let's talk about a problem that came up at the briefing room today. Dr Fao Cheese spoke emotionally on the topic of the disproportionate death toll among black and brown Americans in some population centers Chicago Louisiana. You see a coordinate of the American population Thirty percent twenty percent of the local population but accounting for sixty to seventy percent of the losses DR FAO g Just mentioned heart disease hypertension diabetes as problems. We need as a society to go after long after this is done so this is something that we've seen in African American communities that there are more co Morbid conditions diabetes obesity hypertension just like Dr Phil. She said and we know that that tracks with severity of infection with corona virus. So it just so happens that these two epidemics are intersecting. The one of these chronic diseases and the one of krona virus. And that's really what's driving likely. The the higher mortality rates the higher severity rates in African Americans. And I think this is something that's long been overlooked but it does play a role in the pandemic and I think it is something we need to study. We need to understand what the real risk. What the risk factors are and we need to try and be more aggressive with those patients that have co. Morbid conditions when we're treating them for Corona Virus Dr Mecha- Doll Jeff. Thank you so much as we think Phil Rucker Shannon petty piece for starting us off on this Tuesday night coming up for us. Our government is about to hand out trillions of dollars. Question is who will be on duty to make sure they get that right and later. Was it good old? American democracy in action that we saw today in Wisconsin or was it indeed a national disgrace we will ask a prominent National Democrat as the Eleventh Hour. Just getting underway. This Tuesday night. I G stand for unvarnished truth. Reporting the facts crunching the numbers right. The rule of law and compliance. That's what they do for a living and it just rubs trump the wrong way that someone's going to get the truth out today. The president ousted the leader of a committee of inspectors general that was tasked with overseeing the so far two trillion dollars in corona virus. Spending Glenn Fine was the Acting Inspector General of the Defense Department trump named the current inspector general of the EPA to temporarily take over finds Pentagon duties New York Times reports. Fine was known for his independence and says the move is quote the latest step in an abruptly unfolding White House. Power play over semi-independent inspectors general across the government for more. We welcome to the broadcast. Neill Borowski he was the Inspector General in charge of oversight for tarp. Which as I recall was a chunk of money as well. The government relief bill signed into law by George W Bush during the financial crisis. Neil also happens to be the author of bailout. An inside account of how Washington abandoned main street while rescuing Wall Street. Neil how do you possibly get your arms around an amount of money this vast? How can you possibly count on all of it? Getting to the right people and recipients and in your line of work do you write down as much as I hate to say at a certain percentage of this that is just assumed to be. Ill-gotten gains for somebody you know. I think there's a general rule of thumb in government programs that a good ten percent is. There's a good chance it's GonNa get lost to fraud and when you have a program of this size and this scope Where the money is being rushed out at at sectioning Volume with relatively few oversight or antifraud provisions. You we don't run a high risk Of hitting that number. And here that number when you're talking about not a couple hundred million dollar program or what. I had a few hundred billion program but a multi trillion dollar program is. It's it's it's potentially terrifying amount to keep your eyes on as watchdog even in the best of circumstances and these are not the best circumstances as you were just discussing in your view given your resume and expect expertise would amount any less than this prop up the US economy get the US economy back up and running again. No I mean I think you look at what's going on right now. And you look at the unemployment numbers which which are just staggering eye-popping and you look small pass meaning to small businesses and it's not even you know looking at the numbers right. The hard coal numbers. It just the anecdotes who doesn't have a family member or a friend of a colleague who was out of work People who've never been unemployed in their entire lives and it's just going to take the mother of all firehoses to try to put out this fire and try to keep people able to defeat their kids and maintain a life and so I don't think the number is too small or too big in in any means At anything the question is is it big enough given how long we're going to be dislocated And the fact that we're GONNA lose a chunk of it to fraud As as a former federal prosecutor inspector general at makes me a little nauseous. A little sick. But it's going to be a necessary part of this program but that doesn't mean give up and that's where oversight comes in is to try to limit the amount of fraud the limited amount of waste a little bit about limit the amount that's goes to corrupt purposes illegitimate purposes and. That's where you know having a strong inspector-general unstrung oversight become so important and let me ask the other side of the equation of amid the fear of people getting rich off of this. There's the need the need that triggered this in the first place. The people you just mentioned who need this money yesterday. Do I also look over the process of outgoing. Yes I think that. That's a really important par- process part of it is that you. WanNa make sure as an inspector general and you WANNA provide advice replied transparency over the process the decisions that are being made to make sure that they're being made About who gets money and who doesn't get money at it's done on an objective criteria without political influence without a because a company has The stronger lobbyists or plays golf with a relative in the administration. Or something like that And that's where oversight becomes most important put on guard rails because all his money. It is channeling out of the government with ferocious speed. Is You try to put some guard on it so that most of it at least gets to the right place to fulfil the policy goals in here. The policy goes that we've been told was pretty simple key people at work keep people employed but I will tell you when you have a bill like this which put so much discretion in the hands of the Treasury Secretary If you don't have that it's not going to get there a lot of it's GonNa get siphoned off and it's GonNa be a a scandal and we'll just such a waste of treasure in so you know. We really need to make sure that strong watchdogs are in place and that they're protected that they can do their job and tell the truth without being without fear of being tossed out for doing so ways to treasure will remember those words Neill Borowski. Thank you for your time tonight. Thank you for having us into your home. We appreciate both coming up for us. 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I hope it makes the people of Wisconsin very angry because they have the right to be damn mad about what they're having to go through today and it is partisan B. S. Claire mccaskill from today. Keep in mind. Wisconsin voters who stood for hours in long lines to cast their ballots today. During a pandemic by the way won't have their votes counted till April thirteenth. Former Obama Attorney General Eric Holder. Posted this photo on Social Media Today. Saying THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE. It is shameful. We have to do better for November election for more. We're happy to be joined by the senior senator. From the State of Minnesota Democrat. Amy Klobuchar and senator will get to Wisconsin your neighbor to the east in one moment. I am duty-bound to ask you. Having had a brush up in person with corona virus. How is your husband? How's your family and household? He's doing so much better Brian. He's home And he's happy and he's still recovering from pneumonia But he was in the hospital five days and I think we learned that How hard this is for. So many people have it worse Because you can't even be with the one you love. You can't hold their hand. You can't hug the people who took care of them and it is a brutal thing you know the stories of so many people dying alone and we just can't have this be the new normal and that's why I'm so devoted to making sure I heard earlier on your show those tests get out there. That's going to help our healthcare workers so much The idea that we can find out if there's people that have had it in the past and if they have immunities and in the case of my husband the one saving grace here is he wants his give his blood to help other people so that's where he is right now and thank you for asking. Thank you no matter what we hear from the White House every day. We continue to remind our viewers. We have no earthly idea. How many people are walking around our country with this virus? We have tested point six percent of our population thus far Now let's turn to your neighbor to the east. The State of Wisconsin. What we witness there today? A good percentage of the population looking at that would immediately think. Well there's always voting by mail. Let me play for you. The president's comments on that topic. We'll talk about it on the other side. You get thousands and thousands of people sitting in. Somebody's living room signing ballots. All over the place. No I think that mail in voting is a terrible thing I think if you vote you should go and even the concept of early voting is not the greatest because a lot of things happen. President voted by mail in two thousand eighteen. And I believe has already registered to vote absentee in this coming election from his Florida. Residents to the White House senator. What's wrong with what he's saying there? And Are you aware of these discrepancies? The fraud thousands of people gathering to fill out phony ballots. No there's no proof of that at all and I just keep thinking that president in his nice quarters in the White House being able to request his mail in ballots absentee though it may be and just mail in his ballot while those people in Milwaukee and throughout Wisconsin or standing in line with their umbrellas standing there to close under guidelines many of them simply because they want to vote. That is just wrong. Brian and this could have been resolved. The Republican legislature refused to extend the time for the election then the Supreme Court With the Republican appointed judges in Wisconsin. wouldn't allow in extension by the governor of the election the US Supreme Court wouldn't even allow The Mail in ballots To be sent in A week later. And you think about that as Justice. Ginsburg said so. Well the descent you know when people are lined up and the polls close you. Let the people that were lined up vote. We should let the people that request their mail in ballots vote. And that's why the answer to this is. We cannot allow this. This travis seed happened in November. I'm leading the bill With my friends. Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon. That says very clearly. Everyone should have the right to vote from home to mail in their ballots. We should also because we know a lot of people are still going to vote in the polls across this country Every state in the country should have them open twenty days before so that you don't have a people in line you have less people congregating on the same day and then yes we should train. Po Workers a new generation of poll workers. Who hopefully by then we will know Who will not be vulnerable to this disease? There are so many things we can do and we must do them now in the forty five seconds we have left. Isn't this fifty separate state decisions? Because after all we have fifty state elections. It is but there's two answers to that one. Let's get the money out. We got a first step to help those individual States but census is a national election and a national disaster. We should at least have some emergency rules in place across the country through the Congress to allow people to vote. And that's what we're trying to do as well as get more funding and by the way. There are plenty of Republican secretaries of state across his country. That want to do the right thing and agree that we should get the funding out. Senior senator from the Great State of Minnesota Daughter of the iron range. Amy Klobuchar thank you very much senator for coming up with a great man. Thank God for us. We'll we'll ask a Wisconsin voter what he made of today and more specifically why he fears. It's what our future looks like that when we come back that gave us a net curry aware from we are here today. I'm making sure that we do everything Satan. They no sense to cancel the electric it. Just push it off to a future date. You are incredibly safe. Tickle out. So what if you have to talk about an election while wearing personal protective gear? The Republican Speaker of Wisconsin State Assembly wore that hard to come by personal protective equipment today while at an election site. Our resident wisconsinite. Charlie Sykes writes this quote. What's happening in Wisconsin is dry? Run for what's coming. For the rest of the country in November elections roiled in partisan rancor dysfunction voter suppression and questionable legitimacy here for more denied two of our returning veterans the aforementioned Charlie Sykes founder and editor at large of the Bulwark and the author. Of how the right lost its mind and Eugene Robinson Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the Washington. Post Charlie US through your fear that this is all of our futures well first of all that video you had Robin Boss. He is the Legislative leader Republicans in the State of Wisconsin known for years. That video is an instant classic. Risk standing there in all the protective gear. Saying there's nothing to worry about. It's perfectly safe. This is is George Orwell. Meets Analog House meets the onion and I'm not sure that it conveyed the message that he had look what we're seeing here is the partisan divide if anybody bought that there was going to be this moment. Kumbaya moment where Republicans and Democrats would say. This is a serious problem. We absolutely have to protect our democracy. We must protect the integrity of the vote in the midst of Pandang. And if you thought there was going to be coming together I think. Wisconsin is a rude awakening because the Republicans have drawn a line in the sand. And I think you're going to see that on a national basis you hear it from Donald from that. They are not open to the possibility of easier to vote other than in person. And the mail in voting. I'm looking in Wisconsin about what happened here. We have a city big city Milwaukee as three hundred thousand registered voters. It normally has one hundred eighty polling places today had just by Green Bay Wisconsin had only two holing places within one hundred municipalities. Couldn't have an Poll workers even open the ballot. In yet you saw these scenes of a of a of Wisconsin of American who were forced to choose between doing their civic duty participating in their democracy or protecting their health. It's a it's it really is a distinct moment and I hope people understand what the implications would be if in fact this took place. During a presidential election it's almost a page from the old deep South voter suppression manual of. Hey Eugene The President saying today that his denial and diminishment of Corona virus was cheerleading. Because that's the role he needs to be. And as president. I'm reminded that Eugene Comptroller and New York Scott Stringer said in an interview yesterday having lost his mother to corona virus. Trump has my mother's blood on his hands. Yeah well you know. And and the president today also viciously attacked World Health Organization for a guest not making him pay enough attention to the pandemic that they warned about. I mean this is these. These briefings are becoming more and more disturbing somedays. It's seems they're being scripted by Orwell somedays by Monty Python But but there's a kind of a lather rinse repeat rhythm we're getting into the president makes all these bunch of fabrications for his base. It's the way it's all on the World Health Organization Fox Mail Mail in voting is is full fraud all these things that he's just making up for his space that have no basis in fact and then we spend the next twenty two hours. I did you know giving people the actual information and explaining why everything. The president said was wrong and Ben. The cycle starts again. It's it's it's it's got into the sort of disturbing rhythm that is is not helping anything and is not informing people in the way that it it should be. It's kind of disturbing. We gotTA DO ABOUT CHARLIE. Sykes having seen the video of the Republican leader. Mpp with the Kevin. Bacon role of everyone remain calm. I feel less bad after a nakedly political question. What does Corona Virus God forbid due to the trump base? Well we don't know yet I mean so far. There's all this denial you have. You have a certain segment of the trump as the that is now here on Fox News. There's been nine The the actual Severity of the questioning the death toll. There's always an alternative reality but now we're only at the beginning of this. You kind of wonder. What will the trump based reality react is in fact the economy stays where it is? What happens as the as the lie in the incompetence adds up? You know because I had to stay up late to be your Sean. I'm starting to rewatch. Hbo Chernobyl People Go back and watch you know because there's a great pool near the end. Where the lead scientist says every lie every line we tell incurs it get to the truth and sooner or later that is paid. And we're GONNA pay that at and I think that even the trump base is going to see that and I am the old enough to around for Trudeau Season One. Eugene go ahead no. I was going to say that debt is is paid as this epidemic pandemic reaches other communities in in the country as well and You know if. There are no atheists in foxholes. There there are no blinkered members of the trump. Ace who have this happening to their family and their town and And it I think so. I I agree with Charlie. Those very early to make draw some conclusions about how the pandemic response is playing with the trump. Ace Two friends this broadcast from way back both at home tonight someday. We'll be reunited with Charlie Sykes Eugene Robinson. Gentlemen thank you as always and coming up a look from outside the Corona Virus. Hotspots what it looks like in places of Rural America. Well we've been talking about it. I'm we have all been warned. This would be perhaps the toughest week yet of this pandemic indeed places that weren't previously hard hit are quickly seeing their own hospitals. Fill up with these cases from Corona virus places like New York. Get most of the attention after all as we said the fatality rate in New York today was one death every two minutes. But then you hear we're gonNA play for you now. It's a warning and it's chilling. This is a doctor in Alabama. And she's sounding the alarm. This is Dr Maury Mickey. I just finished a twenty four hour shift in Rural Alabama. I was there last Friday. And we had no cove in one thousand nine patients in another rural Alabama hospital and we had none in the community. Actually yesterday I admitted one that I think is going to be positive for covert nineteen. That'll make tooth that hospital an last Wednesday. When I was at another hospital we had to cove in nineteen patients there with more on the way and one that we tested that was a healthcare worker. the viruses now there. It's infiltrated the rural community. It this is real. This is very nerve wracking and scary for the staff We have limited staff in these rural areas most of the rural hospitals. Don't have an ICU. They do not have a ventilator in and if they do have a ventilator which will breathe for the patient. We don't have the staff to man the Ventilators or the issue to keep the ventilated patients in the ICU. So these patients would have to be transferred either by ground ambulance. Two hours away to a major hospital Or life flight can come and get them. But what's happening is it's tying up our ER staff the ER doctor would have to intimate the patient and then they'd have to be stabilized on the ventilator and somebody would have to stay with patient if not one or two of our staff to stay with the patient while they're being ventilated till the ambulance so the life flight a comes to get them. This can be a serious problem with the volume that we're seeing and if it continues to increase its going to overwhelm our small hospitals with minimal staff and minimal resources it also is going to be a problem because we have sick patients still coming to the ER for other reasons and we have limited beds and limited staff to take care those patients. This could become very serious here in a short amount of time and I'm hoping That this can be better contained in people will take this seriously and hopefully we can do our best to keep everybody safe and healthy and minimize of the admissions right now. I can already see. Those can be possibly a serious problem in the future. Please note it is just getting started. There we join you in expressing our admiration. And thanks to Dr Maureen Mickey Practicing Medicine in Rural Alabama south of Birmingham. We are back with a final note after this began a partner in the city. Mehan Loretto living there. The music of a great American songwriter the essential John Prime who died tonight of the corona virus after bravely fighting cancer. For years if you don't know his work start with Sam Stone. Six o'clock news then get to his masterpiece that we just played a bit of. Hello in there. The Great John Prime Dead. Tonight at the age of seventy three officially the last thing before we go tonight is to be fair topic. I chose because it gets us out of here for just a moment lifts us out of this world and forces us to focus on something else in this case tonight so called. Pink Moon the largest of the four super moons. We're going to see this coming year. Here are pictures in order from tonight in Paris at Notre Down London Rome Venice. Not The one in California Buenos Aires Warsaw Beijing Dubai and Moscow and DC and New York. And perhaps if there's no cloud cover where you live. You took a shot of it to the pink. Moon is not paying for the record. Native Americans named it for a flower that comes up this time of year. The next Superman will be may seventh and there will be a blue moon in October. Which won't be blue but we'll cover that then. It's many moons from now and a preview of a big show come mid April and I'll remind you when we get closer to the time Jupiter Saturn the Mars and the moon are going to be all aligned in the sky they will all be bright and beautiful just when we need something bright and beautiful so that is our broadcast for this Tuesday night on behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of NBC. News good night from our temporary field headquarters. Hey everyone it's Dylan byers from NBC News. 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NPR News: 06-23-2020 12AM ET
"Live from NPR news on trial. Snyder House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler is confirming reports at his panel is preparing to Subpoena Attorney General William Bar, following the firing of the top prosecutor in Manhattan Dad, there confirmed that his panel has begun the process in an interview on MSNBC tonight top Republican on the Judiciary Committee Ohio. Congressman Jim Jordan disclosed democratic plans to issue a subpoena for a hearing on July second in a letter to Nadler saying he opposes compelling. Compelling bars testimony and saying bar remains willing to testify voluntarily after the pandemic concludes saying it's time for people to go home Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan says officials are working with the community to bring an occupy protest zone to an end following to shootings over the weekend one of them fatal. We have to stop the gun violence everywhere in Seattle, but in this area there has been too much gun violence and we have to take steps to stop that. Violence is distracting from changes sought by peaceful protesters following the killing of George Floyd Minneapolis. The protesters took over the area more than two weeks ago South Carolina what have more than twenty states seeing a rise in the number of corona virus cases, some cities want to make facemask mandatory, but the governor has yet to take any action South Carolina public radio's Victoria Hanson reports. The state has seen a string of consecutive days with much higher infection rates. The Department of Health says the new cases are predominantly among young people. Governor Henry McMaster is urging people to wear masks, but has it mandated them? He is also not talking about the possibility of shutting down again. He says there are constitutional limits on what he can make. People do and also there's the practical matter we've got to get back to work. We can't stay. Shutdown of the governor insists South Carolina one of the last days to close and I reopen did not get back to business too soon for NPR news. I Victoria Hanson in Charleston. A Nation continues to struggle to ramp up testing to fight the corona virus. Some testing officials say they have been experiencing problems with some of the. The supplies receiving from the trump administration. NPR's Rob Stein has details to try to boost testing. The trump administration has been shipping out swaps needed to collect specimens and chemicals known as transport. Media The keep the samples fresh while they're transported to allow protesting, but some lab directors say some of the swaps coming bulk packages that waste many swabs because they can get contaminated and others are too long and can't easily be shortened to fit into storage files. Another problem is that one kind of transport media contains a chemical that can cause cyanide gas to be released accidentally. Trump administration officials say lesser kidding all the usable supplies they need. Rob Stein NPR news. This is NPR. President trump has signed an executive order to suspend H., one B. and other beezus till the end of the year. Such visas allow employers to hire foreign workers with specialized skills temporary basis. It appears Franko or Donas reports on the administration. He said that the move will help American workers. A senior administration official says the measures are being taken to help Americans. Get back to work after suffering through the quote. Quote Fastest Spike unemployment in history that temporary ban also includes a suspension of H., two B. Visas for seasonal workers, some J., one visas and L. One visas used for company transfers. It also extends a pause on issuing green cards to new immigrants through the end of the year. The order is not expected to immediately affect anyone who already has visa or other legal status in the US the senior. Senior administration official estimates temporary suspensions will hope quote preserve five hundred thousand jobs for Americans between now and the end of the calendar year Franko or Donas NPR news the White House president. Trump is tweeting tonight about the initial trade deal with China saying it remains fully intact. He posted the tweet after a top white. House adviser seemed to suggest it was over the remarks when Trade Advisor. Peter Navarro. Navarro spook financial markets, but Navarro says his comments were taken out of context in a statement. He said he was referring to a lack of trust. Because of the coronavirus pandemic China meanwhile has put the final piece of navigation network into orbit, successfully launched Tuesday the thirty fifth and final satellite of a system that's meant to be the country's answer to the US. Government owned GPS. This is NPR news.
First Democratic debate highlights the lurch to the left among 2020 candidates
"The daily Joe twos. Big idea is sponsored by US Bank, US Bank believes communities thrive. When individuals succeed working together, we can help create economic opportunity for all. Good morning. I'm James Holman from the Washington Post. And this is the daily to for Thursday, June twenty-seventh in today's news, US asylum, officers, go to court to warn the President Trump's new asylum policies. Endanger, the lives of migrants, President Trump touches down in Japan for high stakes meetings with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping and the house subpoenas, Kellyanne Conway while using an appropriations Bill to send a message. But first, the big idea. The first debate of the twenty twenty presidential campaign last night offered a pretty clear, roadmap of a new Democratic Party, one that favors a series of IMB issues and liberal domestic initiatives. And that is much more willing than most Democrats of the past to use the power of the federal government to intervene in the economy on a range of issues from immigration and climate change to healthcare. The democratic candidates were unabashedly in their enthusiasm for more government activism, they signalled Donelly differences with Trump, but also with a more cautious approach of Democrats, like Barack Obama, whether the Democrats put their best face forward was another question. However, the debate was often marred by squabbling, interruptions, and candidates. Talking over one another and ignoring time limits. The fractious tone, highlighted the stakes for many of the people who were on stage who have struggled for attention during the opening months of the campaign, the second debate with. With ten more candidates, including Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders will take place tonight at nine pm eastern also on MSNBC, but the Wednesday debate was not a warm up for that, nor was it the undercard event in advance of the main attraction like the Republicans had back in two thousand sixteen among the ten politicians on stage last night. There were plenty of strong resumes and experienced politicians instead, Wednesday's debate serve to open a new and important phase in the campaign for the democratic nomination. The economy described by the candidates bore little resemblance to the economy. The president speaks about on an almost daily basis at a time when unemployment is at a half-century low and the stock market continues to rise, the Democrats spoke of the imbalance between giant corporations and wealthy individuals and working families who candidates cetera being taken advantage of on healthcare, Democrats differed over whether the path to universal coverage mean Medicare for all an end to private insurance or did. It could be accomplished in a perhaps more piecemeal way. But all of them signaled, eight new aggressiveness on the part of their party to move beyond the Affordable Care Act immigration, pretty some of the sharpest exchanges of the night, as former housing secretary Hooghly on Castro challenged, others, most specifically, fellow Texan Beto aerobic to join him in changing the offense for crossing the border illegally from a criminal to a civil penalty. But overall the democratic indictment of the Trump administration was consistent and strong with the image fresh in people's minds of that father and his young daughter, who drowned trying to enter the country illegally. The Democrats denounced Trump's policies of separating families Elizabeth Warren was the lone candidate from the top tier and Wednesday's debate, the only candidate of the ten who's pulling in double digits in national polls. So she got most of the questions in the opening segments from the moderators and she made the. Most of our opportunities she projected herself as a fighter forever Americans and the enemy of big banks, big oil, big pharma, and others with the men's power over the economy. Cory Booker seeking debris out in join others in the top tier was passionate when he spoke diverting from campaign message that is talked about love and unity in favor of much more aggressive rhetoric and Amy klobuchar whose policies intemperate temperament make her more moderate than most of arrivals got off several of the best lines of the evening. When Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington state noted that he was the only candidate who's passed a law protecting a woman's right of reproductive health. She jumped into note that the female candidates on stage of pretty hard for a woman's right to choose as well. And that's the big idea here are three other headlines that should be on your radar. Number one US asylum officers, urged a federal court yesterday to block Trump's remain in Mexico program warn. That it is endangering, the lives of migrants, the labor union representing asylum. Officers filed a friend of the court amicus brief that cited with the American Civil Liberties union and other groups challenging Trump's migrant protection protocols initiative, which has already sent twelve thousand asylum-seeking migrants to Mexico since the start of the year, the union argues that the policy goes against this nation's longstanding view that asylum seekers and refugees should have a way to escape persecution in their homelands with the United States, embracing it status as a safe haven ever since before it was founded really with the arrival of the pilgrims, in the seventeenth century, the union seven the court papers that the policy is compelling, sworn officers to participate in the quote widespread violation of international and federal laws, something that they did not sign up to do, when they decided to become officers of the United States government meanwhile, up on Capitol Hill. The Senate passed a four point six billion dollar package yesterday to address the. The situation at the border, but the legislation is threatening to get hung up in disputes over a different version of the Bill that passed the house with mostly democratic votes, even as leaders in both chambers insist they won't head home for July fourth recess until they get this done a normally gridlock, congress does appear poised to act, although the legislation under consideration is a narrow funding Bill that doesn't address any of the broad problems in the asylum laws or the base causes of migration that lawmakers of both parties agree are crucial to address the legislation would however pour billions into the coffers of undermanned and overwhelmed agencies that have buckled under the burdens of nearly unprecedented levels of migration from Central America and we're learning more this morning about Trump's next big target in his war. Unim- agrements. This president is moving to withdrawal deportation protections for the family members of active duty US. True. Oops. Attorneys for the family members of men who were deployed to combat zones. Overseas are racing. Disappointed applications for what's known as parole in place. The wives of deployed soldiers have been told that this option is being terminated soon. According to NPR, the protections will only be available under rare circumstances, going forward, according to lawyers who have been talking to government officials this could so chaos in the military how can troops concentrate on keeping us safe when they're worried about their loved ones being deported. Number two, Trump touched down this morning in Sokha, Japan for the big G twenty summit as he prepared to leave DC yesterday. He unexpectedly telephoned into FOX business to attack many of the American allies. He's scheduled to meet with among them, Japan and its leader, Shinzo Ave, the country, and the prime minister hosting the meeting, the president questioned the value of the US Japanese military alliance. A cornerstone of global secure. Since the end of World War. Two Trump also insulted, European leaders who's going to sit down with the meeting renewed a tariff threat against the Europeans denounced. His handpicked Federal Reserve chairman and complained to the Vietnam is terrible. The comments fit with his habit of criticizing mischaracterizing, his counterparts before big global summits. Remarks that often put our allies on edge, and scramble, the potential for progress Trump reportedly is pretty close to getting some kind of tariff truce with China and hopes to make an announcement while he's in Japan after sitting down with Chinese president Xi Jinping, the deal would avert, the next round of tariffs from going into effect, which could push the US economy toward a self inflicted recession, but Trump is taking with him to the g twenty his top China critic and a leading cheerleader for protectionism inside the White House. Peter Navarro Navarro was a last minute. Addition to the White House's travel team Chinese officials are worried that Navarro's coming because of his longstanding hostility to Beijing. He co authored a twenty eleven book called death by China confronting the dragon there's some worry, he could derail a deal at the eleventh hour and the Kremlin confirmed overnight that Trump will meet. With Vladimir Putin for at least an hour on the sidelines of the summit, Kremlin aide, Yuri, you. Chak off said Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan Venezuela, and Iran among other things will be on the agenda for the meeting. The president's are scheduled to be joined by four other officials from each of their governments. Number three, the house oversight committee voted yesterday to authorize a subpoena of Kellyanne Conway to compel the White House, counselor to testify about her alleged hatch act violations. The oversight committee voted twenty five to sixteen for the subpoena after special counsel Henry Kerner said, she blatantly violated the hatch act, which is the law that bars federal employees from engaging in partisan politics, during work congressman just in a mosh. The Michigan Republican who's back the impeachment of Trump was the only member of the GOP to cross party lines and vote for the subpoena tunnel could be held in criminal contempt of congress, if she doesn't appear after this, and the house voted yesterday to include a provision in a twenty four billion dollar appropriations Bill, not the border funding Bill, that advanced, that would bar, the federal government from doing any business with Trump, affiliated establishments at all the Bill passed two hundred twenty four to one Ninety-six largely along party lines. The Senate hasn't. On the corresponding Bill, and the Republican majority. There's very unlikely to agree to include any kind of restriction that would ultimately become law and not to mention Trump would probably veto it, but the amendments still sends a message to the White House at brushes the plate over the propriety of taxpayer funds going to the president's personal businesses, which he owns and has refused to divest and other words taxpayer money going directly to the president's pocket, and that's unlikely to change. And that's the daily to two for Thursday, June twenty-seventh. Thanks for listening. I'm James Holman have a great day. I'll talk to you tomorrow.
COVID-19 & the Medical Supply Crisis
"Where are the ventilators? Where are the gowns? where's the PP's wear the masks? Where are the crucial medical supplies needed to fight the coronavirus running dangerously low and hospitals vice president Mike Pence. Says, the government has ordered one hundred. How Enough? Masks two thirds of the health workers pulled finding work. Healthcare professionals are still having to reuse masks inside local hospitals. The coronavirus pandemic is highlighted the vulnerabilities of America's medical supply chain. Perhaps one of the most challenging and DIA, which is the country's startling shortage, personal protective equipment. Especially for healthcare workers, we were saying reports of nurses wearing garbage bags and this advice to make your own mask and we knew. That doctors and nurses didn't have with they need but we didn't know why that's Associated Press reporter Juliet. For, the past seven months she's been working with her colleague Martha Mendoza and journalists from the Global Reporting Center on a new frontline phone. America's medical supply crisis an investigation on how we ended up with such shortages. The deadly consequences in who's accountable I'm Raney Aronson executive producer, affront mind, and this is the front line dispatch. The frontline dispatch is possible by the Abrahams Foundation committed to excellence in journalism and by the W. G. B. H. Catalyst. Fund. Support for the frontline dispatch also comes from Massachusetts General. Hospital Cancer Center. Early, detection is key to catching entreating many cancers. You can learn more about the innovative programs at mass general dot org slash cancer mass general. Cancer Center. Every Day Amazing Support for frontline dispatch comes from the Massachusetts General. Hospital. Cancer Center. Early detection is to catching entreating many cancers. You can learn more about innovative programs at mass general dot org slash, Cancer Mass General Cancer Center every day amazing Marzan. Juliette. It's so great to have you on the dispatch. Thanks for being with me. We're glad to be here. Thank you so much. So you know in the piece that you guys wrote for the AP, which is just it's phenomenal and very detailed and seven months of reporting and so much work went into that Juliet I was hoping you could. help us understand a little bit of the process of your reporting. How did you begin and and how did you guys go about this massive subject I need. It really was one step at a time I. Mean it started when Martha we're looking around the country and we were seeing Cova. Spreading across the states and we were seeing reports of nurses, wearing garbage bags, and this advice to make your own mask or where abandon a- and we knew. That doctors and nurses didn't have what they need, but we didn't know why exactly and so we decided. Knowing that China had shut down because of Wuhan obviously manufacturing was shut down as well. We decided to look into import data to see. What's actually coming into the country? Because we knew that the majority of our medical supplies are made overseas and we it was stunning to realize that in March there were only a few shipments of medical grade ninety, five masks when we are seeing this demand, just go through the roof and we are seeing nurses and doctors pleading for protection. And so we really went from there and tried to figure out what the issues were far back they went, and so we really went administration by Administration to see who was waving the flag who was talking about supply chains who was warning about might happen in the case of pandemic, and so it brought back to h one n one but also we reviewed the Bulla after action report. You know we went through and tried to understand you know who was talking about this, and what we found was that supply chains are fragile but everyone knows that their fragile. was information that that people had and in order to fortify them, it just takes a lot and in our story. We spoke with former HHS secretary who said when the snake is not nipping at your ankles your focused on other things. And so for a long time, the US was focused on other things and then all of a sudden we found ourselves in a situation where people are dying and mass and the focus has now been shifted back onto this problem. Right I mean I was. You know how vivid it was. You all started our film was Sandy Oldfield. So you know broken supply chains have real life consequences and You know her story is one that will stick with anyone who watches it Martha talked to me about Sandy and that group of nurses that you guys met. Okay I, will start by saying. If I ever was sick. It would be that central Oldfield, who I would want at my side she sounded like an amazing nurse. Everybody Knew Sandy every lab x Ray the respiratory therapist. She always had a smile for them or a kind word for them. So these nurses in Fresno. Um. We're all exposed to Kobe. Positive. Haitian issue would tell us that she was going to go to work with no fear. That she knew that God was with turn he was going to protect her dozens were exposed. It was hard. Our morale was was pretty low We still weren't getting the PCP. On our on our unit, it was tough to feel safe. I. Even had made a commenter. I said just go to work shit like we have to that. We've already I mean, you don't just not show up you know and we're sick three were hospitalized and Sandra. Oldfield died from coded. She told me the dark is GonNa put me on a ventilator. I said we're going to be right here when you open your eyes. told her I loved her and. Got Was. The last spoke to her. None of them had adequate p. p.. They didn't have a ninety five masks because this patient was symptomatic and the hospital was conserving those and ninety five masks people on a Kobe. Ward. And they were demanding change at the time that they were being exposed on. Very. Scary situation for them very upsetting they you know they they were wondering whether it's really worth it to be a nurse. You know there's doctors or nurses who go into medicine and they wanted to like. Humanitarian Work in war zones, and then there's doctors and nurses who go into medicine and they WANNA provide care in their community and they're not looking for a big risky venture and. And yet KOGO pandemic has put them on the frontlines of some of the most dangerous situations. Medical experts ever have to get into. In. One of the things that I was thinking about watching them was you know certainly being nurses a calling but I think the assumption that they all had it just just from your interviews and reporting is that they would be taken care of can you talk a little bit about that and again, just just trying to focus on the real life consequences of these of this, you know profoundly broken supply chain. Yeah Julia and I spent a lot of looking at data and Trade records and you know government reports and confidential emails and for me to stand in a graveyard at the grave of a nurse with her grieving sister enter grieving friends. It was profound for me too I need to say because it was like I can I can understand and even articulate how is nerdy issues with medical supplies have profound human consequences but it's really different to be in the Graveyard At the grave and realized this person's life is gone. So. It was it made Made an impact on me as well. Well, I've been thinking deeply about that. You know because for a long time, we've been talking about doing a supply chain. Some right like how do we do that? How do we articulate taking late the need here and suddenly you know, Kobe, obviously brings this into sharp relief What are we looking at? talked me a bit about the president and the future sure. Will there is a need obviously for these products and I believe. We have seen something like more than two thousand shipments of and ninety five's from overseas just this month. and. So. Supplies are coming. The need is there and the White House we spoke to the white. House and they told us you know the US has. All the P that needs, but then you know less than a month ago in late September, the government ability office released a report in which they said. No, that's not you know there are still widespread shortages. Nurses are still reusing masks. There isn't enough of what we need. So you know, and then seeing all of these shipments from overseas reinforces this chain, which is we are super dependent on overseas manufacturing and when it works, it works and it provides a cheaper alternative to us made goods. But when it doesn't work people die and there really are consequences to not being able to have what we need when we need it. Yeah I mean, of course, there's also the issue of the counterfeit TV that you that you all found as well and I know you actually add some of it tested, and that's we see that in our documentary. So take me to that moment and what made you guys actually think that you should get those masks tested and what were the results of course We had seen on the data that no and ninety five masks we're getting shipped to the United States day after day after week. What we're seeing here is like pretty consistent twenty-five shipments, twenty two shipments, twenty-three shipments, and then just wash. Drops to three shipments. And all of March. Could lead, drop off. And then we heard that there was going to be an airplane load full of them Florida and. We're able to watch video of that load Arrive Watch them on boxed them. This is the first shipment that we've got in from China. In the past two months. These are the n ninety five masks that are in such high demand right now and then. You. Were like those masks have ear loose looks like he's inspecting them right? Though those are ear loops not ahead strip. I don't think they're supposed to have an new. No, they're definitely not. And they're labeled ninety. And we're looking back and forth at the CDC's counterfeit page and. We were like. This CDC counterfeit paid very specifically says. Your loops you remember that day Julia Oh. Yeah. That was that was really wild I mean we were reviewing the footage to go with our story. We were working on a story about how a nonprofit organization that usually operates overseas was filling a need in the US because the demand was so high that was the point is the story and this footage was supposed to go with that story seems like a pretty simple story. Then we're watching it. We're like Oh my God wait wait a second we had a conversation. Our story was supposed to go in a couple of days and we saw what to us seemed like something that was really concerning, and so we had a discussion about what does it mean if we sit on this information until our story goes out and? You know God forbid someone gets a counterfeit mask and so you know we we made the choice that we we contacted the organization immediately and had a conversation with them about what we saw. and Luckily, that shipment never got sent out but you know a lot of other a lot of other shipments inevitably did make it to the front lines. I mean one of the interesting things watching that and hearing about it as it was unfolding as is you guys are just paying attention, right? Mean could. So easily we will not be paying attention to something like that, and the counterfeit P. could make it into in our country pretty easily. Let's be clear. We we just kind of scratched the surface and saw them what we found in the passing weeks is that they have seen flooding the US market, and so by the time we gathered a whole variety together put them in a box of symptom to University of North Carolina for testing all of these products that arrived even though they're labeled clearly in ninety five and they show what a lady in the pictures wearing a mask with head straps and it has ear loops sets a dead giveaway that it's a counterfeit product. These were all counterfeit. That, we tested all of them. Every single one he tested were counterfeit including the masters that I ruined that had been sent to. For Me Martha I didn't know that I didn't know that part about the the mass sent for you guys. And then no kidding no amendment he told us? Okay. Yes. Even these Associated Press Masks are counts it. Then we had like go back to our editors Well we actually that box of masks we sent, it included some of our own. So how do we handle? Sh- rate and and so what do you think now I mean is we just basically don't know the amount of counterfeit coming in or do you think things are more under control? I don't think things are more under control. I would say there's probably more counterfeit coming in now than ever the FBI and. The Department of unsecured and both have initiatives to stop it. But there was more than two thousand shipments of and ninety five from Asia into the United States in the past month that's up from twenty shipments during the same period a year ago those companies in Asia primarily China have ramped up. So fast I just can't believe they're all doing this in A. Way. Yeah I mean the spring seen in one of the biggest points in your phone, which really just turns everything on its head that you know. Of course, this has led to a big call to bring back manufacturing a. p. p. e. to the US I know that this is something Navarro spoke about a lot and is interview. In August, we met with President, Trump's trade advisor Peter Navarro Navarro was one of the earliest officials to warm president trump about the pandemic and has long expressed concerns about critical supplies like PP, being manufactured overseas. Dangerously dependent on the Chinese Communist Party for all sorts of masks equipment and we know they in terms of crisis will ford that stuff you have been talking about the potential dangers of US manufacturing moving offshore for a longtime is this type of scenario you were worried about? No this is what I was worried about on steroids this pandemic. has shown a bright light on the dangers because something like over eighty countries. During this pandemic has put some form of export restrictions on what we need as a country. To protect our public health. And, both trump and biden have been talking about this. Now on the campaign trail, we're taking a business out of China we are bringing it home or make the medical supplies that our country needs bring home. Medical actually how realistic is that? Is this even potential considering the factors so much counterfeit coming in isn't actually realistic to bring manufacturing back to the US. Not? Without significant policy changes. There is. No incentive for a hospital that needs to buy hundreds of thousands of n ninety, five masks to pay twice as much for them as they ordinarily would. Right now there's incentive but come on a couple of years from now. No. So there there would be. Huge huge changes in policy and spending and at great cost and so. Those are GonNa be tough decisions yeah. Yeah I mean it's it's you kind of wonder. Obviously, you know going back to your the beginning of your reporting and research. When you look at some of the warning signs that came through with the h one n one flu scare rate, which is two, thousand nine. Does. Now, at the start of the two thousand and nine influence pandemic H, one, n one has spread to forty six states more than one thousand Americans have died and more than twenty thousand have been hospital of health experts are expressing concern about whether hospitals could handle the onslaught. That's when we did have a stockpile. But then after that point, no action was taken. So what do you think's going to happen now I mean we spoke with some people who said that funding for the strategic national stockpile should not be discretionary, it should be automatically. Funded every single time. And that's not that's not what the system looks like right now, and you know we spoke with the person who ran the US and he he identified that Islamabad. We bought the ninety five masks in the stockpile with funds that were appropriated in the early two thousands. They've passed their expert day, but we didn't have additional funds to buy more. So we made the difficult decision to hold onto those. You can't be prepared if you're not funded to be prepared, why do you think you didn't receive those preparations? You'd really have to ask the Congress. It is that means that it's not a guarantee, right? Because otherwise the stockpile is just not there or you're you're reverting to using old p. p. e. or like you show in the foam, all of this is being imported from overseas. I mean one of the things we learned a lot about in this foam sounds very wonky but it's really important to understand with the supply chain are these groups called group purchasing organizations right and I know we were we were You know in the edit really trying to figure out how do we make this into film speak right? Like how do we get people to understand what this is? Why are they so important in this crisis? Hospitals team up together to do their purchasing under these group purchasing organizations. So biggest ones have thousands and thousands of hospitals working together collaborating to buy supplies altogether at a lower price, it's it's a simple negotiating strategy, but by using them during a pandemic to get them their supplies as needed. They found some real problems in this was definitely source of some of the major fractures in the medical supply chain. An issue that hospitals had been order what they need when they need it and they get shipments of what they need when they need it and not every hospital is lucky enough to have a warehouse of its own were. They can really have their own stockpiles of. Material and products just in case you know and so. Didn't quite work in this instance because we'll aid there wasn't enough. So, you know we are talking to GPS. WHO Who say they couldn't get what they needed and so they obviously can't. They can't send those products to hospitals unless they have what they need. Right so. It really it is a system that relieved does depend on a nimble supply chain doesn't collapse. We'll be right back after this message. Hi this is rainier incident again, frontline's executive producer here it frontline we've long been known for our documentary foams, but some stories like this one are just meant to be told an audio whatever the forum though we remain committed to the sort of tough fair and deeply reported journalism you've come to expect from us to support the dispatch. Please go to our website frontline dispatched dot org and click donate thanks so much. Support for the frontline dispatch comes from Mass General Cancer Center. When facing the unknown, it is often the small acts of courage that we experience in our daily lives that power us to face another day. We're all in this together. So I'm still I'm still trying to grasp what it means for today. So after all this reporting. Tell me about where we're headed into the fall right now in terms of p. let's start there. The situation is unclear because there is a lack of transparency we filed freedom of Information Act requests for months and have had no response. We were told that asking how many of a particular item has been delivered or put in the national. Stock Claus is business sensitive and the federal government can not tell us how our own tax dollars are being spent been reporting for a long time I've never encountered that type of. Just just blocking information, you know we spoke with contractors, government contractors who told us that they were. They were essentially forbidden from disclosing that information to us. So you can't you can't really tell us right now like if there is a continued increase in potential surge, even this winter of Kobe or not the hospitals in our country will be prepared with PP we can tell you that the Government Accountability Office just released a report did show the. The shortages persist we can tell you that the American Hospital Association, the American Medical Association say shortages persist in fact, the head of the American Medical Association said the situation is maybe worse than ever. and at the very front lines I'm hard pressed to find a nurse who is using an end ninety five as manufacturing guidelines suggest, which is single use put it on, take it off after the patient. The any anybody who I know who's An and you know the national nurses United. The Union also backed up nurses are being told to reuse their ninety five. Only is occurring because there's not enough. It's such a grief situation and it's not over. So what's the next step in your reporting? We're starting to look into what we're GONNA need next. Great. You know we know that we might ninety five. We know we needed gowns and gloves, and that there wasn't enough and now the the conversation is shifting towards a vaccine we're going to need a means to administer that vaccine. And Martha and I started looking into needles and syringes because the vaccine is likely to be administered that way and so you know we are trying to figure out what we have and what we're going to need, and again I mean. As Martha said. There's not a lot of information about where we are right now. But that is certainly something that we were going to be tracking in the weeks to come. So you know what I read in your story, and also in the film you know clearly as it doesn't look like a sure bet when it comes to syringes and that at least one executive that you interviewed expressed real concern to you. So what is your reporting shows specifically when it comes to the SYRINGE supply? What we know so far is that the government has contracts to import needles and syringes, but they have not told us how many they have so far. and. Whether they're on track release. So you know there's a lot of information that we don't know. But what we do know is that the supply chain and the supply chain issues are going to. Still be a serious issue. One one company that has a contract to import needles and syringes actually wrote a note that they had a supply chain disruption in one of their factories overseas and we spoke to them again this was August we spoke to them again more recently and they said that they had had resolved that issue but they warned that it could have been a catastrophic problem. So there is still reason to be concerned about this. What are you left thinking right now? What feels most urgent to you. You know. The fact that there still is not clear federal leadership as we head into a fall winter where we are being warned that there's going to be a surge in Cova cases makes me really worried I have plenty of friends who are nurses and doctors not to mention the thousands who I don't know, and I just hate them ing in their Kovin wards trying to do CPR on somebody who may be a relative of mine or somebody in my own family without proper protection and so without one air traffic controller at the top of all this directing. The supplies go not to mention directing where the vaccines go and having a rollout that is clear and transparent is Can Be Anxiety provoking for sure. Right and I think that you know the commitment that we have is that we're GONNA just we're GONNA have to keep reporting this. You know we're finding time and time again with these investigations especially with you guys at the AP that you know we start reporting on something and the more that you all fine the more we need to keep added so. We'll all keep in touch going forward and I really appreciate you guys coming dispatch. Make you very much reading. Thank you so much. America's medical supply crisis is now streaming info at frontline dot org where you can be watched and listened to Oliver original reporting around the corona pandemic and many other stories. Our podcast producers, Max Green and James Edwards. Our production assistant is Lucy Sullivan Kathryn. McGuire is our editorial coordinating producer. Frank Qn is our senior producer, our senior editors, Lauren and Sarah childress Andrew Matt's managing editor Irene Errands Executive Producer frontline original music in this episode is by Stellwagen Symphony at the frontline dispatches produced GBH empowered by Pierre. Ex.
Morning Joe 4/6/20
"Together we are tackling this disease and I want to raise show that if we remain united and resolute. There's a governor. I hear complaining all the time Pritzker. I hear him. He's always complaining that the attributes of self-discipline only CNN would ask that question fake news go ahead of quiet. Good humored resolve what you have to lose. Please join with all nations across the globe in a common endeavor. Friend OF MY DVD. No we had so many countries in the world one hundred eighty two countries. We may have most down to India. All you have to open our country up. We have to get go. We have to open our country up using the great advances or stance. What do I know? I'm not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. But I have common sense and our instinctive compassion to heal if it does help grade. If it doesn't help we gave it a shot. What a contrast leadership there you have Queen Elizabeth talking about a common cause the new have donald trump who had an unscheduled press conference yesterday evening. For what reason few people really know because if you break down what the president said and a lot of people have been analyzing it over the night. Nothing News Note. Nothing new nothing. Noteworthy the president attack the governor in personal terms for no no reason at all. Actually the last thing you. WanNa do and a time of crisis. He continued to push and unproven drug whose efficacy on. This pandemic is still unknown. And the SS hack. Peter Navarro running around breaking up meetings. Where White House officials? Dr Foulsham is trying to help you and your family trying to prepare you in your family and the hospitals that you and your family may have to go to and Peter Navarro is actually throwing documents. Here's a hack who doesn't even know the Economics. He's he's he's the one responsible for all of our trade wars and now he's going in and yelling. Dr Foul she climbing in this series. So this is the death of expertise this is. This is when idiots have have have have been exposed for who they are in the time of America's greatest needs and and last night. The president of the tactic governor pushed unproven drug and then he continued saying that. The Buck doesn't stop here. I must ask me. Yeah what what did America get out of cable news networks running to our rambling press conference where he says the same exact things every time and if you think about the amount of time that he gives even before the questioning to an unproven drug when we have ventilator shortages when we have testing shortages. I mean dramatic testing shortages in the presence on Home County. Palm Beach County where Moe mar-a-lago is still extr and you also have the numbers spiking up across the nation. We have a crisis of hospital beds. Not only New York City. But I'm worried about rural America where the rural healthcare system has been absolutely ravaged over the past decade by continual cuts and Medicaid by Republicans. This is we're in a crisis. And he's continuing for what the Third Week. Now to push an unproven drugs so why why or why. Msnbc Y seeing then why is Fox? Why is it any network running these press conferences where he keeps talking about an unproven drug? That might work for malaria. Might Work for Lupus. Does it work for this? Valgy akin constant doctor filed. She wasn't even allowed to answer. The Donald Trump get on television last night and he was just stalling according to reports. He said he liked the good ratings. He likes getting out there because a lot of people watch well Joe Thoug- thoug- he wasn't allowed to talk about what he feels is important to say about this drug that the president keeps pushing a lot of people would say follow the money. There's gotta be some sort of financial tie to someone somewhere. That has the president pushing this repeatedly but more importantly he had Dr Fao Chee and Dr Burks which most people I think we can universally agree are trying to slow the spread or trying to contain this virus. Virus are trying to save American lives as we are looking at our worst week yet ahead. They're trying to save American lives and he has them scrambling for ninety minutes to prepare for a two hour news conference. He's going to exhaust his top tier so that he can get his needy camera time so that he can get out there and riff quite frankly illiterate riffing illiteracy saying things that aren't true going off script and by the way. I have to ask who wrote that script because it was as if an eighth grade politics debate team wrote. It was pathetic. We are in a place right now. The president is getting in the way of progress and taking time away from the team. That is supposed to be helping us. Get Out of this crisis. He wasted our time and there. He did Jonathan Lemere. Ap's Jonathan here with us. Jonathan again everything you heard. The president has his catchphrases like during the campaign was believe me believe me and he always whenever you know there've been articles written about how when he doesn't have anything else to say he goes back to these catchphrases and loops and he's done this with the drug especially he's done that would so many other things but it's kind of like the perfect call which we'll get to later on but it this case. I mean he just sounded foolish unfit not just for the presidency but unfit for any any job anywhere. And I don't care. His biggest hacks can come forward today and try to defend that performance and of course they'll do the bill. The what aboutism. With Joe Biden President. Right now Donald Trump's president he's any sounded unfit and foolish any rambled around for a couple of hours. Only difference is make. It talked about how Dr Vouch E was not allowed to say what he was feeling about the drug leading now. But it's not feeling it's Donald trump who keeps saying the same thing over and over and over again about this drug. Which is I don't know I don't know if it's going to do anything. But what do we have to lose weight? You could say about that about Dandelions and raindrops let sprinkle dandelions drops. I don't know if it's going to help. I don't know he admits it has no idea whether this is gonNa work or not and yet he keeps rambling on about this drug. He keeps rambling on about personal fights with governors. He keeps rambling on about how nobody saw this coming such a lie. Hhs Secretary as our last year in two thousand nineteen was asked at a conference. What keeps him up at night. And he said the pandemic a pandemic of course is what keeps us all up in this room at night did a pandemic is coming. Everybody saw this coming in the science world and last week. I get skewered Jonathan. I get skewered for saying that everybody knew this was coming in January. Look at this January in this incredible Washington Post article December thirty first. Cdc Begins Developing reports for HHS after getting information about the virus. Wuhan on January the third formal notification of covert nineteen from China. Cdc This from the Washington Post article yesterday two days later. Us spy agencies warn trump in early January of an outbreak in the president's daily brief January the third the chief relays district distributing news to H H S. As are the disturbing news on the same day on the third as our chairs. Shares the Chinese virus notification with the White House and the National Security Council's. This is all of this January the third on January the six the CDC offered assistance to China. Who turned down that offer that same week? Hhs convened an Interagency Task Force on Cova. Nineteen with HHS secretary as are the head and Foudy on the eighth of January the CDC issued a public warning about the corona virus on the fourteenth of January. Hhs Assistant Secretary Robert CADILLAC AGAINST DRAWING UP. Plans to implement the defense production. Act to fight the virus. Jonathan I could go on practically every day that month things are happening but this is on the fourteenth of January. He's drawing up plans so the president can use the defense production act. Of course that has been an ongoing fight any one word Jonathan on his notebook corona virus. This is on January the fourteenth my God two months later it still actually coming up on three months later. It's still a mess. But even you know two months after that it was still chaos when it came to the Defense Production Act and three months after we still like. The president actually announced yesterday. Something I fifteen hundred tests fifteen hundred tests that were released by Abbott in a country of three hundred and twenty million people. Yeah that's not. Good the catchphrases from the president about the drug yesterday where? I've got a good feeling about this. And what have you got to lose well for some Americans who take this drug? If it's not approved they could lose their health. There certainly are side effects. And it's not about having a good feeling about this doctor has been trying to stress. It's about the Science. It's about going through the rigorous testing program to make sure that this drug which is effective against malaria and other things can also be effective to treat the corona virus. And we simply don't know yet let's back up a little bit about that briefing. There was no briefing scheduled for Sunday. Night a White House scheduled. It came out Saturday evening. Said there was. It was not listed Sunday morning. Aides told reporters nothing on the schedule and in fact in the afternoon they issued a lid which is to pull back the curtain a little bit is parlance for. You're not gonNA see the president today telling reporters there won't be public events as they goes on though. According to our reporting the President Got Ansi. He had told people that he that he loves that spotlight. He knows he gets good. Ratings Sunday nights up against sixty minutes. That's a moment. He wants to preempt sixty minutes he wants to be able to go on and talk to. The Nation. He'd seen governor Cuomo earlier in the day. Deliver his press briefing though reporters have been told. There wouldn't be one on Sunday because it was palm Sunday. The president decided to go ahead and offer one at the same time. Mind you the Joe Biden was doing a virtual town hall about the corona virus so perhaps a little presidential counter programming. Reporters were hurried back to the White House. They attended the event and as we all saw last night. There really wasn't much in the way of news. A lot of presidential bluster of esclation and a lot of anger a lot of anger. When pushed about the timeline issues. Joe That you just highlighted in that terrific Washington Post story. Also my colleagues Associated Press had a piece about how the government that was released yesterday about how the government only started ordering bulk orders of masks and respirators in the middle of March well after the crisis was underway. And in fact when my colleague Kevin fracking asked the President about that in the final question of the day. That's the president cut. The briefing short snapped at him. And that's remains. They remain an incredibly defensive posture. Trying to defend trying to explain how they were so slow to move on this crisis. Even though they had warnings for months and the president's inner circle was trying to convince him to act to mobilize the federal government to do something about it and so we're looking at potentially one hundred two hundred thousand people dying and looking at projections in the best of times and the president last night once again Joe. Taking three to four hours of his top tier teams time to work on his camera. Camera time so he can go out there and get attention and deliver absolutely nothing new these people standing onstage Dr Cheek Dr Birch burks and the other members of his team standing out there for hours having to present something to the press which meant they had to prepare something for the press and it was all a complete waste of time. Quite frankly time that is being used to save lives time. That was not used last night because the president needed attention even when they're in these meetings even when they're doing their jobs away from the cameras. They're getting distracted by idiots like Peter Navarro. Navarro actually has the nerve to throw down files in front of DR ALGAE SAYING THAT. This is proven science. Said he knows what he's talking about and his yelling at Navarro lecturing are Navarro is yelling at found she also the Washington Post article. We'll talk about how these healthcare professionals who were scrambling to save our lives will be in the middle of important work. And they will get a call from jared or somebody else saying hey. Wouldn't it be great if we can have oracle helping us out with the rim of the brilliant idea about how Google is going to do things with Walmart Park? It's all nonsense. It's not working. They're not letting medical professionals and healthcare professionals do their jobs and and let's bring the US editor Financial Times. Said Liu said I want to talk to you and caddy Great Britain in a second but as we go through this time line that the Washington Post laid out AIDS are who had gone the information the beginning of January win when they were all getting together and meeting and the Intel community by January. The fifth or sixth were warning. The president's daily briefings tried for two weeks to get the president's ear. He finally got a phone call with him on the eighteenth. It was the eighteenth of January as or finally gets to talk to trump Cova nineteen but trump decides instead to talking about the pandemic which by the way he had been warned about in his daily briefings the president decides since January fifth or six the president decides instead to bright as are his. Hhs Secretary who's desperately trying to tell the president this that he's angry at him over the HHS's attempts to limit vaping because it had backfired on him politically and as I said. The president dismissed him as alarmist and the secretary was so worried that he couldn't get the president's attention that he was asking an associate. How do I get him? Pay attention to this. This is serious. Will You keep going through this this this list? And you have the president on the twenty second saying that. He's not worried at all. We have a totally under control. It's only one person from China. It's going to be fine. That's when he was in Davos. Ms Ivory Tower in Davos in January. The twenty second and then of course on the twenty third as China is completely shutting. Down Wuhan and also not cooperating with us and blocks. Us Lab from obtaining virus samples on the twenty four. Th this is when Donald Trump said January was still in January by the way friends trump offers lavish praise on China and its president saying quote. China has working very hard to contain. The Corona Virus United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will work out well. In particular on behalf of the American people. I want to thank President Xi. He praises China's transparency January. The twenty four th when it is China that will not give his own administration health officials the information they need to prepare for this virus soon to become a pandemic. It's just absolute chaos. The presence in never never land for seventy days and Americans are dying this week in large part. Because we weren't prepared. I think the opportunity here to point out the difference in political systems that China's spent weeks denying virus. Penalizing people were blowing the whistle on it and then Not Sharing information key information about serums et Cetera with other countries including United States. That energy to criticize China has been completely neutralized because trump did exactly the same thing. You wasted critical weeks in denial as he. He sideline people who are blowing the whistle on this. He refused to listen to the intelligence agencies and to the federal scientists as well as sexually as are the fact that a couple of weeks after that time line that U Reading out Joe that he banned flights from China is the one thing that he keeps pointing to to say. Look in the in. The words of Sean Hannity. This is one of the greatest acts in human history. Most extraordinary pay piece of exaggeration. I've had and there's another competition in the last few weeks but in fact ban wasn't forty applied. We now know that forty thousand Americans did come from China during the month of February and March and help spread this pathogen in places like Seattle Chicago New York and elsewhere so the idea that this one flight ban the sole action in the absence of any other steps to prepare to stockpile the a reported very. Well the idea that this is is the presidential leadership that help prevent a pandemic in the United States is grotesquely wrong. America is approaching the point if the cavs continuous they'd been continuing the mortality rate. Where one in five of global deaths proven deaths to to corona virus would have taken place in the United States already. We're approaching about a quarter of all global casted infections around the United States side of the world to China. We're we're not getting those numbers in most of Asia the happening in Europe and they're happening in the United States and increasingly the United States is the epicenter of this. Hey everyone it's mainly MSNBC correspondent and host of the new podcast into America. What happens if you're one of the more than two million Americans sitting behind bars as corona by response this week I talked to a Colorado woman who is struggling to remain in contact with her incarcerated. Husband I don't know what's going on. I don't know is he? Okay is e sick. So it's like we're trying to live our lives like we normally would but how can you and Dateline NBC producer? Dan SLEPIAN TAKES US INSIDE NEW YORK. Sing Sing Correctional Facility to me. Jj Velazquez an inmate. Who describes how prison dynamics are shifting as fears of an outbreak grow? Prison is the place. Where like when this tension feel the tension and you can feel the fear and being here when you walk around and take subscribe for. Free wherever you get your podcast. We just want to be treated fairly a Lotta shooting happening. I don't care what he says. He's not getting high. Everyone is mainly MSNBC correspondent and host of a new podcast into America featuring the journalist NBC. News it's a show about politics about policy and about the power that both had shaping the lives of the American people. The roller coaster is not any easier to stomach now than it was two years ago. Each week we're going into America to tell voters stories. He's doing the best for the country. Concert doesn't mean that we should do that. Might vote. You can find new episodes of into America and your feet every Thursday to subscribe search into America wherever you're listening right now well and there's under reporting whether you're talking about China and the United States doctors nurses health officials all saying the United States is under reporting the amount of deaths of course China's been doing that from some time on this China Ban. Again going back to the time line on. January twenty nine Pin China actually banned all flights to and from Wuhan on the thirty first as are followed but there were so many exceptions that hundreds of thousands of people still came in from China. Now it's very interesting because on January the thirty first you had. Hhs Secretary as are pushing the president? And Steve Mnuchin for a ban for flights from Europe but MNUCHIN and trump both said no because they thought they thought it would hurt the economy. It would be almost two more weeks before we finally shut down travel from Europe so as the president was forcing again Dr Fao Chee and Dr Burks to stand on stage. Wasting THEIR TIME. He went on and on about this drug hydrochloric. Wayne and pushed it and then pulled back on it and then push that and really took quite a lot of their time. Talking about the president kept saying he doesn't know whether it's going to work or not. I have no idea. It's he said at us so games if he has no idea whether it's going to work or not. Yeah why isn't he talking about getting bodybags to New York? Why is he talking about getting ventilators to New York? Why isn't he talking about getting testing across America? Do you know what Donald Trump said on march six he visited the CDC in his campaign hat and he said quote. Anyone who wants to test can. We'll get a test their millions of Americans who want towers we see the lines. Nobody's getting they. This is not anyone who wants to test will get a test or a ton of people that I know a ton of people that that you know. We'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT AMERICANS. No that can't get the test and we're a month pass that day and just look at it this way every moment that goes by every five every ten minutes that goes by the president's riffing on stage a literally just going off script and not making any sense every five ten minutes that his team is up there on stage. Every moment jared and Peter stick their nose into the situation and try and sidetrack in different direction. Someone's dying that's actual literal. If you look at the numbers literally death by death by death as you sit there and make a mockery of our system in our country and the people trying to save lives and while those folks were on stage with the president he makes the full of them in an act of tremendous disrespect. Going on and on about this drug. Finally a reporter asks about it. Wants to hear from Dr Foul. She wants to hear the science. And here's what happened to weigh in on this issue hydroxy clerk. When would you think about this? The question fifteen people. He's your medical expert correct portion. So he doesn't. He doesn't let the doctor. Actually Mika answer that America is this do of course is the same guy again. Who mocked this said that it was nothing to worry about only one person from China. He said there were fifteen people. That had it pretty soon. It's going to go down to zero. He said the press was hyperventilating about it. And that was their latest hoax. It was their latest impeachment hoax. Somebody on somebody who who lost their jobs said I mean and so now. It's so it's so interesting that now a lot of the same hacks that were saying that this was overblown a lot of those same hacks and now actually trying to turn it around and say it was the media's fault for not underlining the concerns about this so here's the deal I you're stupid. I know you're stupid if you're being a hack for Donald Trump on the krona virus. I know you're stupid. So maybe you're you think other people are stupid. They're not as dumb as you because you can't argue that the press is over blowing it for two months and then when you find out that the press wasn't over blowing it the more people are going to probably die from this than died in eleven Iraq Afghanistan. The Vietnam War the Korean War possibly altogether if you believe White House numbers. You can't then say after two months of saying that the media was over blowing it. You can't then turn around and say oh the media. They were asleep at the switch. They were say. Wait wait which is it which see. Here's a problem. It's all on videotape. Right you can have your little websites you can. You can be apologists for Russia. You can be a useful idiot for Russia. All you want you do everything you can do to try to help. Donald trump out. All you want you can be a useful idiot for Donald Trump and America for your our reasons. Maybe it's to make money. Maybe it's to get clicks. But she can't have it both ways. You can't attack the media for saying the media was over blowing it for two months and then when you find out that one that one hundred thousand people or more may die. You can't then blame. The media for being asleep at the switch doesn't work that way and yet. Mika it's sad that I actually have been in communication with people actually call themselves. Newsmen better sending around selected media stories. Were where a handful of people undersold it. It's really it's shameful. It's pathetic they're still playing politics with a pandemic and it is disgraceful and it is disgusting and it shows the shallowness of their souls and that is one hundred percent correct We're GONNA Katty Kay in just a moment about the big news across the pond but first let's bring in NBC News Senior. International Correspondent Cure Simmons with the latest there including Boris Johnson. Heading to the hospital. Yeah that's right here in the UK. I guess we had a couple of moments over the weekend that took US beyond the politics. One was that news that Boris Johnson. Who of course has been in? The midst of the politics of this has now gone to the hospital now. What we're being told is that he's gone their tests But clearly that has unnerved people. His pregnant girlfriend says she also has corona virus. She believes in she's in bed. She says she's getting getting stronger. This morning the Prime Minister say telling people that he is still running the country. The other moments of course was the Queen speaking last night to the nation rising. It's her strength is that she's able to rise above politics comparing this to the second world war even quoting Vera Lynn talking about the isolation that people are in here. The jobs that are being lost the struggles to pay the rent. Saying we'll meet again saying we will get through this guy's another thing that rose about politics other numbers and you guys are again talking about testing. There's just joe down on some of those numbers. According to the covert tracking project about a week ago America was testing around one hundred and thirteen thousand people a day. Now it's around about one hundred and forty thousand according to that project. That's nothing like the million. That one expert told me last week America would need day to really get beyond this just in terms of how we get beyond this. Take a look at this graph from the Financial Times here. What this shows is the arc of debts in many different countries over a number of days beginning with three deaths today. And what you can see. There is countries that have been struggling like split Spain and Italy a really plateauing whereas America and the UK are still in the acceleration phase. Now remember that Spain and Italy had national lockdowns what. We're hearing this morning guys in Austria and this is crucial. They are talking about perhaps lifting the lockdown beginning with small businesses. So what they are talking about and testing is absolutely crucial to this. What they are talking about is an exit plan. And that's something that a lot of politicians around the world haven't read it go to grip on. How do you give people lights at the end of the tunnel? Just by saying by coming up with a plan. How are we GONNA do that testing again? Testing testing testing is crucial right. Now it's clear from the numbers America's and still isn't doing enough of that all right. Thank you so much. Cure Simmons be safe and one of the things about these briefings. Americans have been lied to time and time again in these briefings. Donald Trump lied to the American people on March. The sex said anyone who wants to test can get a test they keep lying every briefing. It seems when they bring up. Testing saying good news is just around the corner. I remember two Sundays ago. Mike Pence announced. You're going to have a big announcement on testing on Tuesday. It never came the United States still woefully woefully behind on per person testing on per person. Testing okay I got. Trump is saying. Why are you lying? We've tested more people than anybody. That's like saying California has tested more people than Delaware. I mean seriously. Keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. Are I look down at your hands and wipe the cheeto dust off in your mom's basement get out of your underwear and get out of your delusional state? We're at war here with pandemic that's going to kill hundreds of thousands of people to stop your stupidity and instead let's talk about facts and make again in January the CDC Said they had. They had these tests. They were going to move forward with the testing. There is a built-in arrogance that they could take care of it. By by February the sixth remember. We said we didn't want the World Health Organization tests. We weren't sure if they were reliable. The World Health Organization announced on February six that they were shipping out a quarter of a million tests two hundred fifty thousand testing kids the CDC that day they had they sent out test kits and those ninety test kits were so flawed that they had to send them back to Atlanta for the test results by the twenty seventh of February the FDA official. Jeffrey Sheri- lashed out CDs and said if they were a private business quote. I would shut you down. Finally on the twenty ninth of February after month of failure and inaction by the White House the FDA decided. After the first American died there could be private covered. Nineteen testing and here. We are in April and on every American wants to test still can't get a test not even close. The record is on testing. We've been talking about it every day if you want to know why. The economy shutdown. It's because the president didn't push for testing if you WANNA know why you don't know whether you and your family are OK. It's because the president didn't push for testing if you WANNA know why we're in the state we're in and we don't know the economy's going open backed up and when you can start going back to work it's because the president despite the fact that people have continually begged him to push for testing. He's just not doing it yesterday. He bragged about what fifteen hundred tests? Mika fifteen hundred tests going out that was big announcement is press conference. We got two hundred three hundred twenty million people in this country. And who's bragging about fifteen hundred tests from Abbott laboratories. Well Katty Kay. It appears. The facts are closing in on this disastrous White House. Because it's not just the Washington Post and it's not just the United States of America in different states where president trump trump may want to get some press and make an impact. The entire world is watching the United States that people of the United States fall to their knees getting crushed by this virus. Were looking at the worst week ahead and looking across the pond. Boris Johnson heading to the hospital. Want you to talk about that and how that is impacting the people there but also how America is seen around the world right now as they are dealing with this pandemic so that we can speaking to friends and relatives in Italy the UK and even in Moroccan. My sister lives in Morocco and time and again. They've proved up. What is happening here? That all watching what is happening here and that kind of flabbergasted meeker that not more is being done. They can't understand why the testing is so weak. Why America seems to lack so many ventilators so while the medical side things are going well but the thing that they're raising is my goodness. You can go out. You can go to the park and go for a run. Still you can go free to the supermarket and people aren't wearing masks. They literally cannot believe that people are out in the numbers that they are. There are areas of the country. People are still going to religious services in those states that don't have total lockdowns with including religious services. I mean all of this looking at it like it's an amateur ration- that is happening here. And it's becoming increasingly apparent that if we don't take more stringent measures now countries like Austria that are opening up or opening up because they have really really strict lockdowns. America hasn't got a really strict nationwide lockdown. And so this is going to go on much longer. We're going to see other countries around the world start to open up. Start to get their economies back on track. But I think we're GONNA be away behind because we don't have the testing because I locked down is not as stringent as it has been another country where it seems to be working on the on the thing about Boris Johnson. It's remarkable how the top of the British establishment has been hit. You've had Prince Charles Health Secretary now. Boris Johnson. We understand that. He went in because his symptoms persisting after ten days of a high fever in particular. It's not clear though what the tests are. Actually that he needs in hospital and that of course worrying. We may be hearing more about that in the next hour or so. Do some kind of statement coming out of Downing Street about that. And then on the on the upside the queen giving that remarkable four minutes which she said Moore informants than President Trump said in the course of his to address conference. I think it is only Queen Elizabeth. That has the stature in the world who has lived through work through the Second World War to be able to use the word she used so sparingly to bring not just the British people together but really to appeal to the rest of the world when she said No. We are all in this together and we will meet again on the other side. But she didn't sugarcoat it. She said this is top. This is going to be tough. She praised the health workers around the country. She praised people. Thank them for staying home. I think in her in her spare for minutes at Windsor Castle. She probably did a lot. Most of our politicians have done in the hours. They spend speaking on television no she. She's a remarkable leader. She showed once again. What a remarkable leader. She is a public figure. The United States needs a remarkable leader a remarkable public figure. And we. Just don't have it right now. It's very interesting. Catty talked about the strict lockdown in Austria and and other parts of Europe on March the Ninth Donald Trump mocked state lockdowns on March. The ninth less than a month ago. Tweeting that the common flu kills thousands a year and quote. Nothing is shutdown life in the economy. Go on it will go away. Just stay calm again less than a month ago and Jonathan Lemaire. You look at again all the things that the Associated Press The Washington. Post all the things that other news outlets have gathered together and and what is so shocking is caddy talks about how people are looking toward the United States absolutely stunned that Donald trump is failing so miserably when it comes to pushing his administration for testing. Donald trump is failing so miserably when it comes to taking control of the crisis instead is using a pandemic to attack. Governor said aren't in his party and most remark Washington Post wrote yesterday. No country is better positioned to fight this pandemic no country when you look at our technology when you look at our medical superiority when you look at our scientific superiority when you look at our resources richest country on earth. No country was better equipped to to actually kate. This virus at bay and yet it is the United States through the failure of the administration that will end up having more cases and losing more lives than anybody else because even up to a month ago. Donald Trump was mocking governors. Who were shutting down their government. Now there's what aboutism you can say de Blasios said this chromosome that that's great. Guess what guess what? They're not running for president. They're not president. You don't like what they said in March early March and you're in New York vote against him. I don't really care has nothing to do with me. I care about the United States of America and when it comes to the United States of America we had a president. Jonathan that did nothing but play down this threat for two months. And we're bringing it up now because he's still acting recklessly inside. The White House needs to as we go as we go into the worst week for this country. He still acting reckless and unmarred. He still can't rise to the occasion. And this the darkest week that Americans will face probably since World War. Two the United States should have been ready and it wasn't the United States had the benefit of time unlike China unlike some of those Asian countries that surround China were caught by surprise the United Sates had tidy ready for this and it was not and in terms of the. There's still a distinct lack of testing. We've been discussing but also lets flash back a couple of days. Jared Kushner appeared in the White House briefing room and talked about the national stockpile suggestion that it was a reserve for the federal government and was not used to supplement state. It was not going to be used to help out the states. Its primary purpose. He said was to have reserved the United States that was in very different than the definition of the National Stockpile. Except of course they changed the definition the very next morning on the health and Human Services website they changed the definition the national stockpile to reflect what Kushner said that it would fall only for the federal government and it was not be explicitly us for the states and we're hearing from governors across the station. How slow it has been how slow and painful the process event to receive ventilators to receive respirators from that stockpiled. There have been some states that have received enough others not nearly enough and it's clear. The president is feuding with those governors where we are and on this issue. This can't be said enough. The surgeon general. The United States yesterday said that the nation was about to enter one of the worst weeks in its history. It one of the people who live here will face one of the toughest weeks of their lives. He compared it to our Pearl. Harbor moment are September eleventh moment but neither of those times to the federal government. Take it back. Seek to the states after Pearl Harbor after the Twin Towers fell the federal government rose to the moment was every decision flawless. Of course not but it rose the moment there are certainly no suggestion that there was no reliance on federalism. Say each governor should make their own decision but instead that's what this president is done. Is We faced the crisis of this time of this generation he has taken a backseat and the president just keeps lying saying that the federal government is not going to get in the way of stakes bidding for materials. It's happened time and again they do. They drive up the price they take the materials they seize material from Massachusetts. It's the federal government is competing with the states. They're taking everything they can take. And then they're they're actually getting up and saying. Oh we're we're not going to compete against the states. No no we're all in this together. It's another lie and getting in the way of the process. Yeah Still Ahead on Morning Gel. Unlike other states delaware closed its beaches weeks ago. It was a huge hit to the economy there. But the governor says it had to happen. We'll talk to John Carney about that. Decision Straight ahead but first on Saturday. President Trump said hospital administrators are quote thrilled with the level of supply. That's actually that's another lie but you know it's a lie but we just have to since we read the script. It's an obvious lie. Donald Trump's lying just about everything. Now that's not what they told a government watchdog. Nbc's can delineate has new reporting on that. And there's a lot of confusion about face masks after. The White House urged Americans to wear them even as the president refused to wear them our chief. Medical correspondent. Dr Dave Campbell breaks down for us. We'll be right back. 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I'm kate baldwin in for erin burnett out front tonight. Trump is pushing a new conspiracy theory once again about voter fraud this time though it's google's fault apparently here's his this tweet from today report just out google manipulated from two point six million to sixteen million votes from hillary clinton for hillary clinton in two thousand sixteen election. This was put out by a clinton supporter. He continues not a trump. Supporter of google should be sued. My victory was even bigger than thought bigger than thought. There is no evidence of that. There is no real evidence of that. I should say his theory based off not a new report even but congressional testimony from last month testimony that got little attention was largely ignored that is until the theory appeared today on fox business discussing claims by a researcher named robert epstein who claims google may have shifted millions of votes to hillary clinton. How will epstein the researcher blames bias in google search results. It's in twenty sixteen google. Search algorithm likely impacted undecided voters in a way that shifted at least the two point six million votes to hillary clinton. The two point six million is a rock bottom minimum. The range is between two point six and and ten point four million but to be clear there is no evidence that search results were skewed. Additionally google denies that and take it one step further further. If search results were biased. There's no evidence that it changed a single vote but in typical trump fashion none of that context matters or of the fact act that all real evidence shows that hillary clinton won the popular vote by nearly three million votes clinton was quick to respond to the president's new claim tweeting this the debunked study you're referring to was based on twenty-one undecided voters but context. That's for context that's about half the number of people associated associated with your campaign who have been indicted. Clearly still no love lost there and here is the thing. This isn't the first time that the president has pushed baseless claims claims about millions of illegal votes in two thousand sixteen. Remember this from president trump's policy adviser stephen miller having worked before on on a campaign in new hampshire. I can tell you this issue of busing voters into new hampshire is widely known by anyone who's working hampshire politics. It's very real. It's very serious for us. This morning. On this show is not the venue for me to lay it. All the evidence there was no evidence. There's no evidence of that. I myself have spoken to the offices of the secretary of state of new hampshire and the attorney general's office way back when he was talking about this and they didn't then have any evidence of seeing seeing any buses coming in so there's that and then there is this in many places like california. The same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. There was like to say oh. That's a conspiracy theorist. There's not a conspiracy theory flux millions and millions of people. It was much illegal voting like really early and we have to discuss early thing. That's sort of school many things that are going on so many things. I wonder what happens during the evenings when those places are locked again no evidence no no matter how many times you say it but don't take my word for it. The president's own commission to investigate widespread voter fraud found none before it disbanded. I'm going to speak to a member of of that now defunct commission in just a moment but first kaitlan collins. She's out front live outside the white house for us caitlyn. Why is the president conspiracy theories. We know that he has an affinity venditti for but why is he pushing this latest conspiracy theory and why now well the president has long had this accusation. That google is bias against him. He wants claim. They were suppressing positive stories about him without any evidence and now today on a day where the president had a live public schedule he clearly saw this clip that you just played of the psychologists but also we should note the the president is citing the study wrong. He's claiming that google manipulated votes but in the study the study that we should note is widely disputed and denied by google the psychologist all just simply saying that there was bias in the search results for google and that is what gave those votes to hillary clinton even though this person doesn't explain what he means by google <unk> gave these boats to hillary clinton however the president has taken this claim he's run with it and even put his own spin on it and of course even though it doesn't even match what the author himself said which he told told c._n._n.'s daniel dale today the president is still maintaining that there was a change of the boats. This fits a pattern that the president has had where he has long insisted privately amp publicly publicly that he should have won the popular vote. It's been something that's bothered him ever since election night in two thousand sixteen where the president defeated hillary clinton of course and they'll throw a college but even even just yesterday you were playing these clip to the president talking about voter fraud just yesterday as the president was leaving his vacation in new jersey and coming back here to the white house he was alleging that there was voter fraud us talking about voter i._d. Laws and how there needed to be stronger once in the context of him talking about guns reporters questioned what the two had to do with each other and when reporters pointed out your own voter fraud commission disbanded because it couldn't find anything the president continued to make these allegations even though there was nothing to back them up of course here but this also helps the president use this tactic of feeding into this distrust of tech companies something he thinks can help him in the election yeah. It's like it's like it's like a value meal deal of his favourite conspiracy theory topics. It's great to see you. Thanks so much. I'll front now. David david gergen former presidential adviser to four presidents samantha vinograd senior adviser to the national security adviser in the obama administration and matthew dunlap. He's maine's secretary of state. He was also a member president trump's commission to investigate voter fraud. Thank you guys for being here. <hes> david the president is pushing it another conspiracy theory about voter fraud. We've kind of laid it out. Caitlyn laid out kind of how he didn't even get the conspiracy didn't even get the theory right. If you follow the theory why why now why again what what's what is this you so bloody insecure he is this has been an issue pointed out that had been with him since the elections because he feels he's he he feels that people don't see him as a legitimate president unless he won the majority vote and he wants to sort of convince people otherwise but we have to look him south. He's he's been spinning out. Conspiracy theories more frequently now than they used to just this last few days. He said he's accused the press of trying to bring him down on the economy alemi so it wouldn't it wouldn't be good for him but in this case if you look at it. This testimony was is weeks old. It just came up on fox's. This is a better by the way and the person i'm mr epstein professor epstein. This is not a peer reviewed arguments. Not a peer reviewed article article anywhere. It's not an article disappeared anywhere but anyone can tell <hes> professor seen on his own on internet appears to have last been an academic emiko the university of the south pacific and he was not a tenured personality was a he was a had a non tenure job so typically disputes like this. Their academics have a chance to peer review. They have a chance to talk it over and compare notes. It's not one man carrying the sphere and can get on national television until now until new until sam if you allow for the logic that the president is laying out here just go with me then president trump it seems to me would also have to accept that russia's interference and disinformation in the two thousand sixteen election also as he put it manipulated votes votes but that would be manipulated votes for him right. That's exactly right president. Trump continues to adhere to the double standard diet. He was quick quick to point the finger at interference or influence that is unhelpful to him while opening the door to accepting foreign dirt or using media platforms like fox news to spread conspiracy spiracy theories. It's a double standard and to david's point. The president's insi- insecurities are making america insecure in a very specific way. We've been reading reading today about the chinese government. The communist government using information warfare spread lies about protests in hong kong. We know that vladimir putin so's conspiracy theories an an amplified on social media. The president of the united states is doing exactly the same thing we can analyze why he's doing it but the fact of the matter is that it's almost like he's he's waking up every day and deciding he's going to make vladimir putin's job a little bit easier by spreading these lies about our our democracy and at this point point he doesn't need to get information on voter fraud or influence from a tenured or an un- tenured professor. He has an intelligence community he. He has a new acting director of national intelligence officials at d. h. Us he's getting his election security briefings or cherry picking them. I should say from television asian rather than engaging with his actual team and let's go to one of those people who was part of a place to gather actual information on these actual topics mister secretary. Thank you for for coming on you. Were on the president's voter fraud commission. Were there any conversations questions and let alone any evidence offered of google searches impacting votes during in the brief time that this commission was together. Google was never brought up an any of our discussions and this is really institutional gas lighting is worse for for the president's own intelligence community has told everyone that not a single vote was manipulated or change in either the twenty sixteen or the two thousand eighteen election's and yet here. He is going off talking about you. Some phantom menace once again disrupted our election system. The fact of the matter is all fifty states state certified their election results in two thousand sixteen and two thousand eighteen. Every single vote was counted accurately in maine. I won't speak for the entire country but it'll sound like i am. We use paper ballots. How'd you hack fell end and a paper ballot so no votes retained certainly in maine and so this this effort to bring doubt upon the the entire election system only harm to our electoral process in terms of the diminished voter confidence that our voters should expect to see when they walk into bowling place elections around the local level. They're not run from the white house and they're certainly not run from google or any other search engines. This is categorically untrue david but is all of this. I just i don't i'm trying to i'm trying to get the thought of one ua why the president's obsessed with this concept but it does it does he think it works like this strategy of i will so distrust in the electoral process in that somehow turns out my base more or is it more laying the groundwork to if need be questioned the outcome in twenty twenty well. There is <hes> what one might say is a conspiracy theory on the left exactly what he's trying to do is is lay the groundwork for call into question the on election night at twenty twenty and the days that followed whether it's a fraudulent election and if he can claim eh frog general election then he did say i should stay in power until we get tests resolved we have a new election and so forth and so on so there are people in the left who had that fear. I see so far no basis yeah. There should be no vases of that fear because we're going to try to not dealing conspiracy. You can pull reality out of my cold. Whole dead hands really believes this who is left you kind of get to this who's left in his national security team to actually set him straight deny coats who was a <music> seen as a well respected voice <hes> straightforward a straight shooter in his national security team he left last week kate stacking his cabinet with sick offense may make the president feel better in the near term but as we've just discussed it is not protecting our country and at this point. It's not just a question of who's willing to tell him things that he doesn't wanna hear. There has been multiple streams of reporting that information is being censored before even reads his desk desk new indication. He reads the presidential daily briefing but there's been reporting that the chief of staff told the former secretary of homeland security not to bring up election security already in front of the president. There's been other reporting that he doesn't like talking about russia because it makes them uncomfortable and feeds his insecurities as david was referencing so so at this point we really have to beware the fact that the president is getting his intelligence briefings from a shadow cabinet of foreign leaders like vladimir putin and media personalities that have no access to classified information and have a biased one way or another. That's that's that's the craziest bit about this when you have access to more information and then anyone and you still based off something that you see on cable t._v. Secretary you alluded to this but i wanna hit this as a final point. You're in charge of overseeing elections in your state. What what is the real impact of the president any president pushing a conspiracy theory like this do you think do you think it has an impact on voters. I think it does tremendous harm <unk> recklessness irresponsible for him to do that like i say our stock in trade is not results of elections stock in trade is voters believing in the process when have our country's leader saying that the results you know have been manipulated either from an internal or external source for people who care so much about this process us and then our then persuaded that vote may not matter. They may stay away from the polls which could be an end goal for some folks. I find it incredibly objectionable mold. Anybody would so that kind of distant formation anything to back it up. Thank you guys very much. I really appreciate it. Thanks much out front for us. Next breaking news the white house reportedly considering a new round of tax cuts to boost the economy but why according to president trump things have never been better plus president trump already backing away from be stronger back from checks that he said that he wanted if so what do democrats what can democrats do and elizabeth warren takes on the controversy of past claims of native american heritage bridge will this silence or biggest critic president trump. I know that i have made mistakes. I am smari sorry for harm. I have caused as most of us have found out the hard way getting into debt as easy. Getting out is hard especially sleeve. Your fico score is in gray thankfully now. 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President trump is dismissing concerns about the economy in a tweet today saying this quote our economy is very strong despite the horrendous lack of vision and by jay powell and the fed but the democrats are trying to quote unquote will the economy to be bad for purposes of the twenty twenty election so how does this all impact the twenty twenty race how front now for republican senator and presidential candidate rick santorum the former democratic governor of michigan jennifer granholm guys. Thanks for being here senator. Let me ask you first. If if the white house is now discussing payroll tax cut or let me expand it to any tax cut at all. How do you square that with really the glowing statements on the economy and the relative basically complete dismissal of concerns about that various same economy. We're hearing from the white house and look. I think the president understands that we're we've had a very strong economy conroy for the last two years. It's dramatically picked up since the obama administration and <hes> and he's done a lot of positive things like regulatory cuts and tax and tax cuts <hes> but there are signs signs that and even admitted it today. I saw some comments from today. He said you know that this this war that he's engaged in with china i mean it's a battle <hes> that's that's having an impact is created creating uncertainty in the markets. It's created uncertainty business investment and it's probably knocking off a you know a couple of tenths of a point off off g._d._p. And and it's slowing down the economy a little bit and so he's trying to look at things that may counter that but i would just say this. I got to give the president credit. I mean president obama didn't take on china and he probably wasn't in a very good position economically do so the economy wasn't that strong president bush and take on china president clinton didn't take on china and jennifer knows because she's for michigan. There's a lot of folks in the industrial midwest who wants to take on china who were tired of china eating our lunch and at least give the president high marks for doing the battle and risking his economy and doing right so it's one thing to take on china is another thing to not accept reality or acknowledge reality that tariffs are going to be impacting consumers and he said that he said that in the short term that this trade war could have an impact on the economy but in the long term it's essential for our survival but surgery that they're taking over and over again ever from peter navarro down peter navarro navarro even saying to jake tapper on sunday that china the terrorists are having no impact what he's talking about what peter said because i was on the show yesterday right they didn't have our said was that it's not having an impact on consumers and i think that's true but it is having having an impact on business investment because of the uncertainty out there it is having an impact on certain industries like like the agriculture industry and so it's having an impact on the overall g._d._p. But i agree with peter navarro when you have inflation at under two percent it's hard to make the claim that consumers are paying a lot more in in as a result of the war governor if if they would go forward with a payroll tax cut the last one happened during the obama administration to try and boost the economy during the last downturn. What do you think that this could be a good move both politically and economically from well. I certainly think he thinks it would be and he would have to get congress to go. Oh along with it at a point where he has racked up trillion dollar deficits so i'm not sure that you would find that and it's also clearly an indication as you suggested that he he knows that the economy is not as rosy as he and all of his economic advisors are acknowledging appreciate rick saying or at least acknowledging that but today there was a report out from the national association for business economics they surveyed hundreds of economists business economists seventy four percent of them say there will be a recession session in the next two years the vast majority of them saying before the elections so the shaky out there but can i just say one other thing that is really important to to keep in mind all of these top level economic indicators the stock market g._d._p. They don't have any impact on the bottom half of the economy which are the people who aren't investing in the stock market's of which it's half of america forty th this is amazing to me. Forty three percent of americans who are working cannot afford the basics. They're called asset limited. Income constrained employed people forty three percent so there are two economies. The people at the top are doing great. The ones who got the tax cut the businesses who got that huge tax but everyday citizens are not people who you do not have retirement people who do not have healthcare who are in the gig economy so i think that regardless of whether an recession is imminent or will happen before the election. There is the second economy that the trump policies have only hurt and that's a problem well. That's a good example of the president's talking knock-about democrats talking down the economy. The reality is that wages reasons the reality rick. I'm not talking down. I'm just giving you facts. Not just the facts yeah. The fact is that wages have been going up faster than any. No wages are down right now. Between first and second quarter wages have dropped. If you look at arts have dropped manufacturing output has dropped up to two percent. These are all signs of what is going on. I'm not talking down. Nobody wants to see a recession but what i'm saying is that the basic economic indicators are showing a weakening economy and those don't even address the half of the economy that is not in the stock market so i just i would make the point that if you look at the look at wages since the president has has taken office they have grown stronger than at any time and i think the last twenty years we they've been outpacing inflation which hasn't been done for low wage worker for a long time so the reality is that lower lower wage workers are doing are doing better as a result of this president and we're seeing more people back into the work force and we're seeing very low rates of unemployment so all of that helps offs low wage workers and i think his his his trade war while it does you say it does hurt business investment in the desert the economy i think ultimately ultimately this is for working men and women to make sure that these manufacturing jobs stay here or stay close by so we can have strong economic growth. It's going to benefit wage-earner so he's he's out there fighting. I i'm just gonna end with this. I have talked to. I wouldn't call them big business. I'm calling them farmers from ohio and other farmers who aren't they are absolutely getting her. Make an it's very difficult to make a short term pain long-term gain argument of folks. They really can't the old out. I i agree and and the president is you know is fourth a plan to try to help soothe that problem but <hes> there's no question certain elements of our economy are going to get hurt by this trade war but it is a war that i look jennifer. Granholm has been out there saying. We need to take on china now. We're doing it. Don't complain don't rick. It's a question of how you do it. It's a question of how you do it. The tariff let are a blunt instrument. He is now doing deal yet. He's the first to do. It won't be at least try why well let's just see how much how much more of those tariffs actually go into effect because now the president knowing that they're actually can impact is now continue on just dangle them and dan is pulling them off guys. Thanks so much many more months to talk about the economy. Thanks guys out front next. Nancy pelosi takes on the president's shifting language on background checks is donald trump going back on his word and the president admits he does want to buy greenland. Listen strategically for the united states. It would be nice. Is it true strategic or is it about ego. A man who has been in the board room with donald trump is my guest guys are terrible taking care of their health breath whether it's a knee injury bad back or something worse guys usually more comfortable robinson dirt on it than seeing a doctor. I'm guilty of it myself. The same is true for erectile. 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Get roman dot com slash out front new tonight house speaker. Nancy pelosi has this message to president trump on new gun measures. I she says writes this quote. I pray that the president will listen to the ninety percent of the american people who support universal background checks. Why is the speaker saying in this right now. Because maybe of these remarks from president trump about those very same background checks just remember this big mental until problem and we do have a lot of background checks right now. Just remember we already have a lot of background checks catching the president sounding a different tune today today. Just we'll just days ago yeah so what change sunlen body is out front sunlen on. What are you hearing about this. Okay those comments right. There really do underscore this dynamic that we've seen play out with president trump so many times before on capitol hill that he he is always the wildcard hanging over every negotiation the present. He speaks in these broad strokes. He's vague at times. He changes his position very often. It does not help with congressional deals coming together now. After the president said that appears to be backing away from supporting tougher background checks for gun sales the senate minority leader chuck schumer saying point blank. We have seen this movie before and he'll work top. Republicans will also tell you that nothing is going to move on guns. Nothing has a a chance at all unless the president fully endorses something and then sticks to it so well. Lawmakers are spending part of the recess right now going over options with the white house. There's there's a bipartisan group trying to see what could pass comically these kate the president really again changing his tune really inject so much uncertainty into an already very uncertain uncertain situation. It's absolutely right. Thanks so much online out front now democratic congressman from ohio and presidential candidate tim ryan congressman. It's great to have you. Thank you for being here when you here when you heard the president say that which is just remember we already have strong background checks on. Does that worry you do you think he is. Do you think he's signaling something. I have no idea i it's hard to follow the president anymore and you just showed clips back to back. He's saying one thing one day something else a day or two later either. He is is intentionally trying to manipulate the american people slow walk this the old potomac two step right. We'll just keep we'll keep talking and then things will die down or or he has diminished mental faculties because he's saying something completely opposite of what he said two days ago and it could be part of it and it's just not what that he's trying to walk back from something. That very clearly knows what he's saying. I think when it comes to him. It's really hard to tell because i've seen him. Call dayton toledo <hes> uh i've seen him make these mistakes consistently but i also see him trying to manipulate the media and manipulate the american people by saying hey we'll do something and then he doesn't but what he needs to understand is the ground is shifting on this issue and i think the republicans you see it in the polling with suburban moms and dads ads who may be republican who are hell bent on getting background checks. They're worried about sending their kids to school. They lived in communities like dayton. El paso sandy hook all all of these different areas of the country that have experienced it. This is personal and i. I don't think that the president is connecting that and he's playing the old game with the n._r._a. And he's gonna lose. Let me ask you then because access is reporting that sources are telling them that when it comes to action on the hill it's september or bust because because of the fragile momentum that comes on the heels of tragedies like what happened in dayton <hes>. Do you agree that. That is the reality i think so i think the the honest assessment is something should happen in september. We need to apply the pressure but here's the other piece that i don't think we've seen before that the pressure the the group's moms demand action gabby giffords group sandy hook they have built themselves up now to where they can go head to head with a diminished n._r._a. Because of all the problems they've got real money. They got real support. They got moms that are very very active and men who are strong strong enough to be with the moms and so this is not going away. This is different now. In the the pressure's gonna continue to be applied and so we may be able to get past december december. We've got to get rid of mitch mcconnell period end of story. He is the bottleneck. He's another one with the potomac two step. He's gonna talk his way around this. We've got to get rid of him so they can and do what they want and maybe they can slow walk and maybe they can bottleneck at but they're all up for election in two years and they're all going to be gone because this movement is stronger than it's ever been. Let me ask about another big conversation station right now. In the two thousand twenty race which is about the economy with fears of a recession looming vice president mike pence he was out <hes> he was out today who was speaking and and he said that if you or any democrat would win the presidential race this would happen much. This can't wait to hear. I honestly believe if any one of the democrats on that debate stage wins the presidency the gains of the last two and a half years would be be wiped down taxes would skyrocket the stock market tanked jobs would vanish and we would get that recession these naysayers keep talking about. What do you say the vice president on this. Oh it's a joke. I mean you know vice president pence when he was the governor of indiana n. Completely almost tanked the economy in indiana. He was gonna lose his reelection. Supply-side economics was tried in kansas. Just by senator brownback almost destroyed the economy in kansas and here we are we have trillion dollar deficits mr pants and trump. We're talking about deficits. We have the twenty two trillion dollar debt. There literally are not. There's not a single deficit hawk laughing. I'd just throw that out. I would like to consider myself a semi responsible on this issue. You are alone man on an island in a trillion dollars a year deficit of money. We're borrowing from china and other countries. They cut taxes for the wealthiest people in in the country and we saw yesterday. C._e._o.'s got a nine hundred and forty percent increase in their pay since nineteen seventy. Ah the worker got a twelve percent increase in pay so yes we are gonna ask those people to pay a little bit more in taxes but the reality the of it is they are destroying the economy because the average person still is living paycheck to paycheck. I just got check me mentioned. The debate stage the deadline to make the next extirpate stages next week. What's your path to that right now. Were on the move. We've had literally the best fund raising two weeks six. We've had in the campaign the best few days or right after the last debate <hes> we've got some good announcements coming up significant people that are going to be helping us with our online online move and we're going to run hard to try to get on the same standards apply at the next debate too so it's not like you're a completely out of the game and we're picking up huge endorsements. We've got joe biden's former coach debate. You're still using probably oh yeah. We're we're picking up momentum. I mean my my issue is name i._d. Everyone else has seventy to eighty percent name identification mind smaller because i'm from youngstown ohio. I'm not a senator. I'm not from a big state. I don't have a ivy league network to help me raise money so were were a startup but we're making progress. We have the most transformational message i would say across the board on trauma informed care for our kids in our schools calls making sure there's a mental health counselor and every school. I really look forward to checking with you seeing updates all throughout. We'll see on the trail. Thanks very much really appreciate it front front press next elizabeth warren and other candidate. She says she is sorry but is it enough to stop. These attacks have to hit pocahontas very hard again if she does has win and president trump says he really does want to buy greenland. Why a man who has done business with donald trump is my guest tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups cbs no hassles just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits any today at zanies dot com slash c._n._n. Tonight the fi the first one twenty elizabeth warren tonight taking head on the controversy that has followed her campaign from the very beginning her past claims of native american ancestry. I know that i have made mistakes. I am sorry for harm. I have caused i have listened and i have learned allot and i am grateful for the many conversations that we've had together. Importantly worn was addressing a native american eric in presidential candidate forum in iowa and with this apology warns campaign is hoping to move on from it once enthrall. Did they pull it off out front now. Patrick he lied lead new york times politics editor and lauren lopez national political reporter for politico patrick. What did you think of today with. This apology has worn turn to page. You know it came from clearly a very sincere place. I remember when we interviewed warren late last fall. She absolutely refused to apologize. She said she didn't and have anything to apologize for terms of taking the d._n._a. Test and roll claim to native american ancestry but i think over these months she's clearly talked to to a lot of native american leaders groups. She has come to a pretty full understanding of why even if this was family lore it troubled people but but i gotta tell you kate we did <hes> we did interviews with dozens of democrats this summer about war and she's grown in the polls rising strength and over and over they brought up the native american issue and the potential for donald trump to do real harm to warn if she's the nominee and it was this it was this general concern concern it was this concern that president trump has an ability to demonize his opponents the way he did with jeb bush marco rubio and ted cruz and others and that and that if she's the nominee he will be able to beat her now. You know we don't know that and the electability question is very tricky one but at this point the reality is she did a lot of good today with this with a speech but whether the knocked her in a general election if she's the nominee impossible to electability. How do you you judge. It just depends on who you're talking to. When it comes to building laura it's has been almost a year since warned released that much criticized video where she received the results of the dna test about her heritage yardage that was yet another time that she found herself having to apologize. I mean what does does it say anything that she is still apologizing. When does it say anything to you. Does it or is it more that the questions keep coming at her. I think that the reason the questions came up in the last week was because rose warren's campaign decided that they wanted to address these issues right now she came out with a native american proposal <hes> just at the end of last week week and that was one of the most exhaustive and comprehensive halsey plans. She's put out to date. It's about double all of the other plans. It's nine thousand words were so and so they put that out in the lead up to this native american conference and then she decided when she was on that stage to address it head on and that's why i were again talking about it and i've actually heard different on the campaign trail when i've been out on the trail with her or also pulling around other candidates i haven't been hearing from in voting is a concern that much about those attacks where i think the vulnerability for her was more in the primary and whether or not progressives and native american american leaders feel satisfied with response <hes> it is striking though patrick that <hes> how you have a president trump who never apologizes by rule and then you have a a candidate you have elizabeth warren who on this issue is continuing to apologize. I don't answer to it yet but i do wonder how that. If that impacts voters i think people are impressed <hes> that she has taken the time to to listen and sort of understand about the harm that she caused me. I think a lot of people are very used to the fact that president trump does not apologize that that is not just a political strategy it sort of goes to who he is is <hes> whereas for elizabeth warren. I think what she's trying to do. In very much in the in this primary is make sure that the you you know the the elites who very much support are now the activists liberal groups who supporter sort of understand that she's done basically everything that she can to due to address this night. You had the news today. Jill biden was up in in new hampshire basically saying you may like another candidate but you really need to vote for joe because he's he's the one who can win again. Sort of injecting this electability question so you can apologize all you want but the at least the opponents to be saying <hes> you know that a person might be great but but you got to vote for biden donald trump which was tackling last week when it comes to the economy likely or eight you gotta vote for me. That is the tagline of twenty twenty bad is where we are today. Greatest you guys thanks much out front press next the danish prime minister says no deal after trump admits that he's interested in buying greenland will will that deter the president plus gino's on how much someone was willing to pay for former president obama's plug sweat and tears remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash c._n._n. Tonight absurd that is what denmark's prime minister is saying about president trump's confirmation that he wants to buy greenland. So what do you do with that out front. Now jack o'donnell he's a former president and chief operating officer of trump plaza casino in atlantic city jack. Thank you for coming on you know trump the businessman the real estate developer. Does this surprise you that. The president is interested in greenland first. Thanks for having me on kate. Does it surprise me no <hes> because it this is a lot of headline and a lot of talk and trump likes fat but it's curious to me quite frankly that greenland a country that probably represents one of his failed pollen greatest failed policies and in climate change that he would be interested in this <hes> but but it doesn't surprise me because it's big and it could just be that simple with with donald trump <hes> <hes> you know he likes the biggest and i'm sure somebody put it in his eerie found out somehow that greenland was the biggest island on the planet that would just be that simple wants it and that was i was actually wondering your take on that because he talked about it being strategic when he spoke to reporters. Do you think it's about some strategic national security kirti reason at all or the natural resources or is it as simple as you're suggesting that it's just ego well. This could be a legacy purchase and i think that could be very much. What's driving this <hes> for his presidency if he was able to pull it off which we all know he's not going to be able to but there are great. Natural resources says there are so i've read. I'm not an expert <hes> but you know strategically <hes> you know. I don't know how much more america could get out of it. You know who knows maybe there's some various plan in his mind where you know that could be the jumping off point for all immigrants as an example who knows on that one kate definitely really not that one yet the danish prime minister <hes> not only called it absurd the whole concept but also said this greenland is not for sale greenland is not danish-greenland lend belongs to greenland. I strongly hope that this is not meant seriously and when i was reading that i actually started wondering does a statement like that. A full will this is not going to happen. Never denial does that deter her the president or does it make them actually want it more well. I think it makes them wanna more. A good example kate was the plaza hotel in new york city. You know i think most new yorkers were horrified at the thought of donald trump trump owning the plaza thinking that he would glitz it up and his style and ruin that iconic building in the more he heard that the more he wanted it and ultimately because of that he wound up paying twice as much as the property was valued and it went into bankruptcy after he bought it this time he wouldn't be working with his own money though he'd actually be working with the american taxpayer tax payer toddlers. Thanks jack reshape your time. Thank you so much thank u._k. Out front next ginny mouse on the pretty penny someone shelled out for brock obama's old jersey the cases. We gotta find who wrote this. No we do that. We find the killer this science chance to find out police used luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama but where it was the rifle and which man was telling the truth forensic files the legendary true crime show who is now a podcast join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools subscribe now with apple podcasts podcasts with new episodes every monday and thursday. You'll never miss out on getting your forensic fix. Someone just paid a whole lot of money for president obama's old clothes here's jayme. Ohs you know how presidents always being given jerseys well. How much would you give to own a president's game worn jersey from his days in prep school. Playing basketball is is a few stains. The whole bidding on barack obama's holy jersey left a one hundred twenty thousand dollar hole in someone's bank account <unk> out sold to an anonymous collector of historic items. Obama was america's most basketball obsessed president who jokingly dreamed of making the big play more of albert is making of course the call the bomber with the ball top of the key three seconds seconds left. Obama's jersey was salvaged by another basketball playing student at punahou school in hawaii. Not the jersey in question was destined for the trashy shoots. She's peter noble also wore the number twenty three and was assigned to get rid of old jerseys being replaced by new ones at the prep school a few years after obama laughed sentimental about the number he saved it and after obama became president realized obama wore number twenty three an auction house called heritage auctions photo match the jersey to a yearbook picture sure of obama wearing it perfectly every detail every detail every seem every stripe another striking detail obama's number twenty three would later turn out to be the number worn by michael jordan and lebron james two of the game's greats incredible coincidence bidders don't one items off the rack. They want them off the backs of athletes one body of blood sweat tears odors those all make it more valuable a hundred and twenty twenty thousand dollars valuable. The winning bidder probably thinks it's steeled seamus c._n._n. But it doesn't smell just smells smells like history new york. 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