35 Burst results for "Peta"

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

05:05 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

"When you're in a city where everything else is back to normal, like those services need to be back to normal as well. Right. Ashley, I know, as we mentioned earlier in the show, PETA's involved in a lot of different stuff. What new campaigns do you have going on? Well, you know, as I mentioned before, I mean, we have a variety of campaigns that encourage people to help animals with their daily decisions, whether you're talking about what you're eating, you know, choosing vegan meals. Or what you're wearing. And I think that's something that people don't always think of as much, but so for that reason, we have a lot of campaigns encouraging people to make their closets vegan. And to shop for vegan clothing. And you know, I think people understand when they think about an issue like fur. I think for pretty out of favor these days because everybody knows the extreme violence and cruelty that goes on behind the scenes and the fur industry and that's why so many designers and retailers have dropped it. But we're trying to educate people about the other products that they might not think about as much as well. Like, you know, for instance, wool, the fact that, you know, I think people have a very sort of pretty idea of what the lives of sheep and the wool industry are like, but you know, we've actually done dozens of investigations into wool farms in just several countries. And every time we find extreme cruelty, especially in the shearing process, because shearers are paid by the pound. So we find animals just being punched and kicked and having bits and pieces of their skin or their ears locked off during the shearing process. And then when they're well production drops, they're slaughtered in really gruesome ways without painkillers.

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

04:21 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

"Cats. Maddie's pet form come for an answer, stay for the community. Oh, absolutely. I mean, it is essential. It's the key. And I think, you know, you're right. I think that's where we have very common ground. And I certainly have found common ground with people who I've met through my work who do TNR, but you know, we all just feel so that it's so vital that to have these spay neuter services. And yeah, it's just, and you brought up the fact that right now, there is a vet shortage. There are shortages of appointments. And it's so alarming. You know, it's very frightening. And I've heard quite a lot of horror stories too about, you know, even just the fact that in a lot of places, mobile spay neuter clinics, like in Los Angeles, the mobile clinics stopped operating during COVID, you know, the shutdown. And you just, you see such an impact from that. Just you see this exponential spike in kittens being born on the street after something like that. And so yeah, I think that Spain owner and obviously, one thing that I'll mention that I think is somewhat unique to PETA is that in terms of, you know, we, as many other groups do, we try to promote adoption. And we really try to be aware of how people might be influenced to think that it's acceptable to be reading and buying cats on social media or by celebrities when really there's this cat crisis in anyone who wants to bring a cat into their home should be adopting. And so we have, I mean, we, when we see any celebrities showing a purchased kitten or just tagging a breeder in their posts or anything like that, we really make a point of going in there and asking them to take it down to untag the breeder to say something about adoption and spay neuter to their followers. Because that's something that I think is a concern too. And I think we've all seen, again, a spike in that since the pandemic, since people seemed to get this very erroneous idea that shelters were suddenly empty. And yeah, I just think I can't overstate how important it is for people to realize that they need to be adopting cats, not buying them. Yeah, and I think there's two sides and we could have a whole show on this topic. So I will just mention one thing which is during the pandemic, you know, shelters were opened by appointment or doing things virtually. I also think that there's some organizations have limitations on the process, the process is challenging for adopting and it became more process oriented even with the pandemic. And so I know for a fact.

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

04:34 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

"Managed community cat colony and then you can also go into the sort of what I would call an unmanaged community cat colony. Sure. You know, so yes, I think it's known that PETA does is not in favor of the TNR or feral colony approach to homeless cats. And the reason is that, sadly, our experience with TNR and managed colonies is that we have still seen cats suffering in so many ways. In spite of the fact, the best intentions of the people involved and you can have very caring responsible people doing this work, but we receive countless reports of incidents in which cats are dying horrible deaths is offending for themselves outdoors. For instance, I think I'm sure we are both aware of the fact that there are unfortunately people who are very hostile to cats out there. And I think I mentioned that we have a 24 hour cruelty hotline and we get so many reports of people doing horrific things to cats. I mean, just horrifying cruelty. People who see cats as a nuisance and do things like poisoning them or killing them in other gruesome ways or just cruel disturbed people who will catch and torture outdoor cats for fun. You know, there are there are people who will round up straight or outdoor animals and sell them to laboratories where they could be used in experiments. I mean, there are just so many things that can happen to any companion animal who is outdoors fending for themselves. And I would say that that's one of the primary things that concerns us, that a cat outdoors can be subject to extreme human cruelty. We also

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

04:50 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

"For your low cost and neuter services to over 13,000 animals and obviously we will continue to do so. And we kept offering services throughout the pandemic and shutdowns and it's just essential because, again, there's just with the crisis that we're facing right now with the overcrowding that we're seeing in shelters, you know, just the best thing we can do for animals is to be sure that, you know, that they're not being born just to be just to be discarded. Yeah, so we just see it as the really one of the most important things we can focus on if we care about helping companion animals like including cats. So and just trying to think about, I think you've looked at spay neuter in a very targeted way with those programs. Is there anything on a larger scale that from our standpoint or maybe something that we can learn from PETA? How do we create programs? We're finding that there's Spain neutered deserts around the country, right? There's areas where people can't even access any type of veterinary and affordable, not affordable within our two hour drives. Are there any support or any resources from P to anything we can learn from your team to help others to create in their communities? Well, you know, I know that one thing that our clinics offer is free transportation for people who are unable to bring their animals in themselves. And, you know, I mean, whether that means our actual clinic workers or PETA, we have the advantage of just having staff who deeply deeply care. And so just staffers who don't work in that department will often volunteer to provide transportation. But so that's one way that we've been able to bring these services to people who, as you say, may live out of an area where they'd be able to easily access or who just might not be able to access because of their own lack of transportation or mobility. I mean, you know, yeah, I think the more the more you can bring these services to people, I mean, another thing I'd say is I know that we are our clinics park in 40 different locations. So just really getting out to people is vital. And I'm with you, I'm a huge fan of the mobile spay neuter clinic model. I've started to mobile spay neuter clinics, two cat mobiles. Wow, that's wonderful. That's awesome. All around Massachusetts. Yes. Very cool.

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

02:26 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

"We have a low cost spay neuter clinic that performs services in the Hampton roads Virginia and southern Virginia and northern North Carolina areas as well as field workers there who go into areas of extreme poverty where we see dogs living on chains 24/7 in the backyard, you know, often will forget to feed them or nobody, nobody visits them on a daily basis. And so we go into these areas and provide them with whatever comfort we can and try to educate their guardians about how to give them a better life and, you know, we'll do anything. We'll deliver doghouses and straw for the animals whose owners won't bring them indoors. And we'll intervene when we see cruelties, sickness, injuries, and that goes for cats too, dogs and cats. So we just have countless ways that we work for animals and dots, and that's U.S., but we have international affiliates around the world doing work for animals. And so that also includes our teams going into places right now like Ukraine and doing rescue and assisting people in helping animals in the middle of just the devastating work going on there or people we have a team in turkey right now, helping with animal rescue after the earthquakes that have happened actually are our team was there a few days ago in one of the areas as it was hit by an earthquake. And fortunately, they were all okay and they continued on with their rescuer. So we just have a wide variety of different ways that we help animals, whether you're talking about trying to influence how people interact with animals themselves or actually going in and protecting animals from cruelty. In person. Yeah, and I'd like to focus in zoom in on the spay neuter component of things.

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

04:21 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

"Will travel anywhere in the world and do whatever it takes to help stop cruelty to animals. Ashley has one dog named pogue pogue. Pogue and a kitty named niche. Princess niche, if you want. They want to be very proper about it. Excellent. Excellent. Ashley, I'd like to welcome you to the show and first and foremost. So how did princess niche get you to be crazy about cats? Thanks so much for having me, Stacey. You know, actually, I have been crazy about cats my entire life because I was fortunate to be brought up in an animal loving home and those animals included cats. And so, you know, my first family cat whips around years before I was at a puss. And yeah, I just have had a lifetime of wonderful companion cats who I've loved very much. Have you always been working in the animal welfare space or do you have a media and public relations background outside of animals? You know, I came into working, well, I mean, working for PETA actually pretty early in my career. You know, I had a couple of years out of college where I did other things. But this is really been the bulk of my career, which has been wonderful. Excellent. So you've grown within the organization. That's that happened with me. I started with the merrimack river feline rescue society when I was about 25 years old. And so I was there for over 16 years on the day to day involvement of things. So it's sort of your journey is within an organization. As well as understanding the big wide world. So by the fact that you've been at PETA, give me the umbrella overview of PETA, what does what are the different programs? Because I think we all might be aware of PETA PETA does this.

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

The Community Cats Podcast

02:08 min | 4 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Community Cats Podcast

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"peta" Discussed on The Doug Collins Podcast

The Doug Collins Podcast

03:48 min | 6 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Doug Collins Podcast

"Wants. They're going to be just fine. Exactly. I mean, folks, you got to understand stuff. For those of you listening to John bauman's with me today and if you've got to look at this and say for Peter to say anything about this dog rides in his own SUV, from Savannah, he lives in Savannah he doesn't live in Athens. He lives in Savannah with his other siblings and they, you know, they are from all there. He rides to the game. He has his own condo and Athens, paid for by the university's athletic group. He fly when he does fly. He flies first class into the, I mean, this dog, this is there's nothing. When I die, I want to come back. That's all I want. You know, you've reached all if you believe in that kind of stuff and reincarnation as animals. If you come back as ugly, you know you have lived a superb life on Planet Earth. I mean, that dog has it all. PETA is such a, look, whatever. The organization, I remember I was in Congress, John, first few years I was in Congress. Down here in Georgia, and again, today is going to be a Georgia centric episode. George is known for poultry, chickens, okay? And there was a chicken truck accident in my district. My son, Peter. Coming in. All right, buddy. There we go. What's up, big guy? I got my youngest shits are slaying over here. She's asleep. She don't really care about math. But a chicken truck turned over. Driver, by the way, paid it was fine. PETA comes out with wanting to have a marker, John, and this is sort of sad and funny at the same time. You know how they do their life. People who die, they put their crawls on the side of the road. Peter wanted to put up a marker for the dead chickens. I'm not surprised. You know what, one of my staff members, it's probably still one of my favorite tweets of all time. We talked about it in the office and one of my staff members saying gain Robinson who's now an air force pile. He said, he came up with the tweet. He said, every time a chicken dies, someone gets their wings. And we put that out in the drum stick, whatever, you know? It's just all right. And we put it at Peter. Oh my lord, they went off the street. You know what? I gotta give it to PETA because they are top level trolls. They will do anything if it gets them some attention. I cover it when I was working in local news one time I covered a story. And I love this. There was a restaurant down here in Florida, and they had one of those grab tanks, you know? Instead of grabbing like a stuffed animal that they had live lobsters in there. And you could reach down and grab a live lobster and pull it out. And PETA, of course, they showed up and they were having a fit about it, but they are very good at getting attention. And when they get attention, they get donations. You may know a couple people like that on Capitol Hill. No, really? You're kidding me. No. Those humble individuals who never have seen a camera that no, I tell you, what was it? The worst place in the world is between about 5 or 6 members on the House and Senate and then again. The last time I heard that joke is the most dangerous place to be in Washington is between Chuck Schumer in a camera. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's a lot of as you go along with Lydia again, by the way if I were just laughing about this, if you ever want to get a really good fun website or not website, but Twitter to follow follow the national park. Okay. They got a sense of humor, or is it just so bad? It's good. I mean, they are funny. They got a sense of humor. They had a picture the other day of a frozen waterfall in the cast was okay for all of you. Don't go chasing waterfalls. Stick to the rivers in the springs that you know. These are very dangerous. That's not a reference for our main topic.

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John Bachman and Doug Talk UGA's Bulldog Mascot and PETA's Craziness

The Doug Collins Podcast

02:03 min | 6 months ago

John Bachman and Doug Talk UGA's Bulldog Mascot and PETA's Craziness

"Folks, you got to understand stuff. For those of you listening to John bauman's with me today and if you've got to look at this and say for Peter to say anything about this dog rides in his own SUV, from Savannah, he lives in Savannah he doesn't live in Athens. He lives in Savannah with his other siblings and they, you know, they are from all there. He rides to the game. He has his own condo and Athens, paid for by the university's athletic group. He fly when he does fly. He flies first class into the, I mean, this dog, this is there's nothing. When I die, I want to come back. That's all I want. You know, you've reached all if you believe in that kind of stuff and reincarnation as animals. If you come back as ugly, you know you have lived a superb life on Planet Earth. I mean, that dog has it all. PETA is such a, look, whatever. The organization, I remember I was in Congress, John, first few years I was in Congress. Down here in Georgia, and again, today is going to be a Georgia centric episode. George is known for poultry, chickens, okay? And there was a chicken truck accident in my district. My son, Peter. Coming in. All right, buddy. There we go. What's up, big guy? I got my youngest shits are slaying over here. She's asleep. She don't really care about math. But a chicken truck turned over. Driver, by the way, paid it was fine. PETA comes out with wanting to have a marker, John, and this is sort of sad and funny at the same time. You know how they do their life. People who die, they put their crawls on the side of the road. Peter wanted to put up a marker for the dead chickens. I'm not surprised. You know what, one of my staff members, it's probably still one of my favorite tweets of all time. We talked about it in the office and one of my staff members saying gain Robinson who's now an air force pile. He said, he came up with the tweet. He said, every time a chicken dies, someone gets their wings.

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33 Iditarod sled dog race mushers to trek across Alaska

AP News Radio

00:39 sec | 7 months ago

33 Iditarod sled dog race mushers to trek across Alaska

"The grueling ten day race covers nearly a thousand miles over two mountain ranges and across the treacherous Bering sea ice, defending champion Brett sass, says he and his dogs are ready. I got 11 of the 14 that I had last year in the race are back and I think the replacements that were the ones different are stronger dogs, so I'm really excited. Also excited fan Gordon bachar who came from Indiana. You know, you hear a bond, you see occasionally on TV and all of a sudden we had the opportunity this year to come and decided to do it. The idea rod takes about ten days organizers point to retirement and inflation for low turnout as well as sponsors being down amid pressure from PETA. I'm Julie Walker

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"peta" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

01:34 min | 7 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"The whip. So all that money, all that time, all that research that has gone into making the weather's gentle as possible as you've already said, the RSPCA have found that it is not a welfare issue, all of that has now been erased because they airbrushed out the width. People will automatically think, well, hang on a minute, there's no smoke without fire. If they're hiding it because they've got something to hide. So what is it? Is the whip very humane. It's gentle. We've done so much research to make it as gentle and as kind as possible. But now we're airbrushing it out of our campaign posters. That makes no sense at all. And of course the BHA are not responsible for the marketing, but they have to realize that they have a critical influence over it. And it seems to me they're setting up the industry for a time without the web. And it's interesting. You say, what a joke of a campaign they are. The PETA group. Because I actually found in early January. They put out a tweet, and I had to actually go onto their Twitter and make sure that this wasn't a parody. Because it was so utterly ridiculous that I thought this can not possibly be true. So compared to put out on their Twitter and I'm crushing this word for word. The next time you eat a chicken, think they had a family just like you. Jesus Christ. Right. Exactly. So let's call them out for the extremists that they are. These are the people. These are the sorts of people,

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"peta" Discussed on The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast

The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast

02:37 min | 7 months ago

"peta" Discussed on The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast

"The Beatles and to Costco. When you leave, you have to show them your receipt. Okay. Check everything. I figured that there. Well, I didn't know you've never been there, so you might have been confused. Yeah, there used to be an electronics store that did that. And it was weird because you'd go up there to pay and then like ten feet later there was a guy to look at your receipt. That's what they do at Costco. I just made right there. I didn't see me. It'd be funny if there were short staff and the guy that checked you out just had to walk ten feet south and then he looked at your receipt immediately. They had a little cafe in there that sells pizza. Okay. I got rid of my Costco membership. I'll get you one. Not the membership of the pizza. Yeah, we'll take you there for lunch. We are getting a lot of pizza suggestions for ace. For the gigantic ka pizza stunt. Is it okay to talk about it, as you seem a little shy about it? I just wanted to enjoy pizza for a month. Then you should have never told us you were doing it. Well, he's paying for it. But you're also doing pizza products like a pizza bagel, a pizza bite. Rolls. Oh yeah. Pizza rolls, okay. Bought some Annie's pizza. Totally. Mister adkins kind enough to write. Doctor adkins. Not Atkins. You're familiar with the D, probably your grade in science class. You may have been your first off, you're not wrong. This first gear is insulted. There's a dog, I think Doug Atkins is in the NFL hall of fame. Played for the saints. I think the larger point here is that Anthony was kind enough to write. There is a truck stop chain that goes by the nickname of the flying hook. Yeah, that's the flying day. They have a breakfast pepperoni pizza and monster meat pizza. I don't eat it when I'm driving. I swear it's worse than shaking a vial of nitroglycerin. It blows the porcelain off the crapper. Anthony writes, I guarantee Floyd the trucker can vouch for this. I am right. Wow. Well, thank you, Anthony. Well, if you want to try that one ace. I'll try anything. Okay. Is the monster meat pizza made with real monster? That's a good question. I don't know. Are they free range monsters? 'cause that's important. All monsters are. Okay. It's actually faux monster PETA got involved. It's very political. I don't care how many monsters. I can't believe it's not monster. Coming up, we have some cool world. I love this one world record because it

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Unpacking the Mega 2022 Report From Hashrate Index

HASHR8

04:02 min | 9 months ago

Unpacking the Mega 2022 Report From Hashrate Index

"Welcome back, the mining pod. On today's show, we're joined by Colin Harper and Erin meru of hashrate index to go over their mega 2022 report. In this show, we talk about machine prices, a state by state energy comparison, mergers, acquisitions, bankruptcies, and much more. Welcome back to the mining pod. I got two of my buddies on the show today, listeners should be familiar with both her faces. If you're watching on our YouTube channel, got Colin Harper, former colleague, and a killing it over at hashrate index as the lead for their content team. And then you are in Belarus who is also a new analyst for them previously arcane research. He joined us back on the podcast at believe in August to talk about energy markets. They're both putting out this awesome new report on behalf of hashrate index. So we're going to dive into it. It's about 2022. Looking back at the data from last year, at the end, we'll get some thoughts from these two research Bros on what they foresee in 2023. But welcome to the podcast, guys. Thanks for joining. Thanks for having us. Yeah, thank you. Cool. So we got a lot of ground to cover. You guys told me that it was like 40 some pages beforehand and now we will not go over all 40 some pages. If anyone's interested, of course, going to hash rate index website and subscribe to their email list and you'll get it into your inbox or just look for on Twitter by both these guys on Twitter. So we'll leave that there. Let's talk about the highlights. So before we do that, we'll give it to you guys for any top thoughts while you guys have been working on this report for last month. Call on my hand it to you first and then two Erin. Yeah, so I guess high level thoughts for the report and ended up being a lot fatter than I thought it was going to be. A lot of that is thanks to having a boy year and over there helping out and adding some really good analysis and plucking some really good data. I guess I would just say it's just has a much different tone than the report that I put out last year. Like when I put out the 2021 year end report, the industry was leaving the year on a high note. Hash price hit an all time high and late October early November, or sorry a yearly high and early October or early November late October of like 41 bucks per PETA hash. And every metric was up, everything was just booming. And now obviously it's the exact opposite. We had an all time low for hash price last year, $55 per PETA hash, asic prices are in the crapper. Mining stock valuations are also in the crapper. It's just everything that we put into this report. Honestly, depressing is not the right word is because it's just where we are in the market cycle, but it was just, you know, everything was like, and this is down. And this is down. And this fell from this height in 2021. So, you know, the report really kind of just looks at how brutal 2022 ended up being. And it kind of caps we cap it off with talking about how, you know, 20, 23 is going to be a real maker to break it year. Especially considering 2021 brought in a lot of pedestrian investors into Bitcoin mining. With the Chinese mining ban, a lot of business, capital interest built up in North America, and a lot of people joined not really expecting what they were going to get themselves into. So 2020 threes module will be survival and that's kind of like the takeaway or thesis of the report. Love it. And same question over to you. High level thoughts on the research report you guys are about to put out. Yeah, I would say the same thing as sickle and hair. It's just being yeah, everything else is going down this year, as you know. So a little bit depressing, writing is report, but it's rather just behind us. And it gets our get the summer of the year, down on the paper, and after we have looked through it, we can look forward to

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"peta" Discussed on Art Beauty

Art Beauty

04:29 min | 9 months ago

"peta" Discussed on Art Beauty

"Non vegan restaurants and dealing with weight staff and even chefs who have no idea what it is to eat vegan. So you may order, okay, I'll just take some grilled vegetables, you know, and the waiter may take your order and that he may say to the chef. He or she may say to the chef, they want this without this or that. And you get it, and it's loaded with butter, butter. When you're vegan, you can taste butter. And so it's like, okay, no, let's send this back. Or they'll give you something and they don't have chicken broth in it or fish for, you know, and it's just like, so you have to be that person that's like, hey, this is not exactly what I ordered. And you have to send things back. And I am not one who takes delight in sending things back. But I do love myself enough to make sure that when I'm paying for something that I get what I ask for, and there's a kind way to do that without being rude or nasty. Just to make sure that you get what you want. So there's that. And then there's the constant conversations that you have to have with non vegans who hate vegans, right? They just hate the fact that we exist. And they want to send you a picture of a hamburger, or send you a picture of a steak. And they want to say like if you post something about, you know, all, you know, they're killing cows, you know, to get milk, and they're like, oh, you know, I just ate some meat, you know, today, and it's just like, you know, when you're vegan, and you're an ethical vegan, one thing that you unfortunately see is abuse of animals, because we, you know, you follow PETA, you follow different groups sanctuaries, you follow different educational groups on social media and you lean into it because you want to know because you're an animal advocate.

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"peta" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

02:56 min | 10 months ago

"peta" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show

"You can't really debate it, but their record just isn't where the selfie. Of course. I think the Celtics would have fallen off. Yeah. No, I think we did a podcast before. The season start I did it with Ben gulliver and I said, is this Celtics window closed? I mean, I wasn't being completely serious, but there's something that you said about can it seem lose a coach and it's one is important as you Joker was and be as good and they've been fantastic, man. They've been so good. I'm with you. I do think Tatum is definitely going to be in the top three of the MVP conversation. All season long, and if he continues at this face, I would bet on him to win. The reason I want to bring up the Celtics and I think something really fascinating is brewing here. Boston's offense, like I said, it's been incredible. They're catch and shoot numbers are insane. Like grant Williams was also shooting 48% from three. I don't have the latest numbers, but I wrote the story, I think, for Wednesday, like him, Horford, Derek white, those guys were all shooting at least 40% Brogdon was at like 38%. Sam Hauser oh my God, PETA was dropping in Sam Hauser stats the other day. That guy's on cloud 9. I don't even want to acknowledge the houser problem. He's the one taking the most. He's taking the most threes of anyone on that team per 100 possessions and he's drilling them. He's over 50% with them. So it's basically what we were saying before about hurt her, except you know, granted someone that it doesn't play as much as herder, but it's still on a team where everybody else is contributing that way, particularly with some of the injuries that they've had. You'll absolutely take it. And again, we'll see regression to the mean, but everybody they plug in is a great point. Another thing is even if their offense aggressive, I don't know if they'll finish as the best offense. I didn't be a history. The thing is, it just makes sense on paper when you look at it because they're shooting is so good. And if Jalen and Jason beat there one on one matchup, your defense is screwed. Like once you get caught in a rotation against these guys, they swing the ball so well. But even if the offense gets worse, then they get Robert Williams back and that changes their defensive ceiling from what it is now, but what's interesting to me is the Celtics have this incredible offense. Meanwhile, I looked this up today. Do you know what the defensive rating of Milwaukee starting 5 is with brook Lopez, Giannis, holiday, and Grayson Allen? If I had to guess, because where do they rank team wide on their not the top seemingly anymore? They are, they are. There's still number one at one O 4.9. So I'm assuming that their bench falls off quite a bit. So that starting 5 has to be like high 80s low 90s. 89.2, Chris. 89. That you were right there, brother. So maybe I'd looked at it a couple weeks ago.

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"peta" Discussed on Seek Outside Podcast

Seek Outside Podcast

03:30 min | 1 year ago

"peta" Discussed on Seek Outside Podcast

"We have taken on this role of being the shepherds for these animals. We got to control the bears, yes. But we also control the deer, right? So there's like this good balance of where controlling everything and it would be awesome if we could just go back to the Stone Age, right? Everybody has the fantasy of just, you know, being a Native American on the plains where there was just all this bountiful game, right? That's just not a reality, right? It's not a reality to let things go back to nature without just unless there's a nuclear war. Who knows, but I make a very cynical joke, but it's kind of, it's not a joke. It's true, but I kind of make it into a joke. I make a very, very cynical joke that goes. You know, I'll give PETA their new platform for like the ultimate standing up for wildlife and creators, whatever. And that's to distribute a cyanide pill to every human being in the world, and we all take it at a certain given time. And we all perish and are gone forever. Every human on the face of the planet is keeled instantly. And let's the population of creators figure itself out. Because then it probably will. That is a situation where that will go to Jurassic Park life finds a way type deal. Is if PETA distributes a cyanide pill to every human being, I would really like to see how that how that is received by everyone, whether it's Peter or whoever else. But there you go. There's a new idea for some of the things out there. Well, but the problem is that's not ethical treatment of animals because we're animals. I think that's the big, that's the one thing that people like people that you can take away from hunting and like hunters understand and people that get out in the wild a lot understand but people who are looking at this from 30,000 foot view don't understand. Like we're very much still a part like we're an apex predator. That's what we are. That's how we got to be able to shoot a gun. Who knows? Maybe we came down and were touched by aliens and that's how we became intelligent pyramids. If you believe biology, yeah, they built the pyramids. But if you believe biology and you believe, you know, natural evolution and Darwin's theories and stuff. We got to the point right now because we were a part of the ecosystem and we kind of mastered it. And so it's a very, I think, I don't know where I'm going with it. I'm with you, man. I'm super passionate about it. And I think. People hearing us get riled up about it. If they were to actually listen to this podcast, they'd understand a little bit more. But it's like the whole that's just the whole outfit. Situation, it's the whole perspective. No, and that's why I tried to take a step back. Let's talk about some numbers here because if we can remove for the most part, you know, like even me like making fun of PETA, you know, I'm sure that's gonna piss someone off. But I would actually, I would actually have a conversation with someone from PETA about it, you know? And it would be and it would be a pleasant one. Try to punch him in the face or anything. But I.

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"peta" Discussed on Daily Pop

Daily Pop

01:32 min | 1 year ago

"peta" Discussed on Daily Pop

"You heard me. She did that. And don't go away. Dancing with the Stars couple max and PETA hit the streets of Miami at the new you beauty awards where PETA was getting honored for her beauty line. Now while it was a night of celebration, they also had Ukraine on their minds. They opened up about max's escape and how everyone can help. The reality is that there's a war. And it's not slowing down. It hasn't subsided. Max was trapped in Kyiv when Russian forces invaded Ukraine and he kept fans updated on social media. If you're not in the situation, you don't see it. What Ukrainians are doing makes me so proud. Not that no one saw this coming. But everyone was hoping that the fight the finality of the situation will be averted, right? That this not going to be this kind of aggression. Me, now my part of my every day is to make sure that it's a known fact that people don't forget about the war that people don't forget about the aid and the people don't forget about the suffering. So even today, even in this environment, it's time to celebrate an occasion, but for me, I'm also on the phone making sure that the aid keeps keeps coming into the right hands. While max was overseas, Peter felt helpless at home and tried to protect their son from the scary truth. I couldn't imagine beginning to describe what was really going.

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HumaneWatch Documents Unethical Treatment of Animals by PETA

Mark Levin

01:37 min | 1 year ago

HumaneWatch Documents Unethical Treatment of Animals by PETA

"Humane watch dot org says it keeps a watchful iron animal rights movement I had their executive director I believe on in 2011 to talk about some of this And I'm looking at their site now February 1320 20 Virginia's Department of Agriculture and consumer services is published statistics of animal shelter records for 2019 The numbers for people for the ethical treatment of animals PETA are shocking According to the report they write Peter killed 1593 dogs cats and other pets last year repulsive 66% kill rate Of the 2380 pets the organization took in only 32 were adopted out several hundred other pets were sent to other facilities Since 1998 Peter has killed over the right 40,000 cats dogs and other animals in Virginia In comparison other private animal shelters are doing much better when it comes to finding homes for animals official records show private animal shelters in Virginia At a youth measure rate of just 5% in an adoption rate of 73% last year And they write Peter was ultimately responsible for 72% of the dogs and cats killed in Virginia's 45 private shelters And they have links ledger PETA's official body count to be found here And they go on It has a history of unethical behavior when it comes to their angel of death Shelter program in 2014 a dog nap the healthy chihuahua of its owners property and it goes on

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"peta" Discussed on My First Million

My First Million

05:42 min | 2 years ago

"peta" Discussed on My First Million

"I'm gonna work out this week. Actually and then one last quick update one thing that i'm trying to do that. I've actually done for the last. Tell me what you think about. I've done it for the last five or six days. I didn't mean to do it at first. But now i don't break it. I've walked around twenty thousand steps a day for the last about five six days. What are you tracking. Well just my iphone. So i was using the health app. Then i downloaded like a What's it called the peta. What's the anyway. I downloaded an app for gotcha and it's awesome a pedometer. That's what it is it's awesome. Have you ever walked. Have you ever tried to do like ten to fifteen thousand. A day bro. Walking the walking is the running. Now i don't know i've i've never really liked step counters. I always found them to be like an underwhelming. So for example. I was like i've got a fitbit or whatever the first one of the early ones of those were and i hit ten thousand steps on what i felt was very lazy day and immediately in my head i was like oh this is for like old sedentary people and i can use this as like a brawler of success for me. But you're really fit and you seem to care at that. You hit twenty thousand steps. Who cares right isn't like an hour of intense exercise. Really what you want and not twenty thousand steps yes or no. So there's pros and cons so the con- for walking the amount that i'm walking. It takes forever like three hours three hours of walking some regards. That's a pro because it's fun to be out there and seeing stuff i'm in a new place exploring so it's fun but the pro is also So basically if you run ten miles that will like have you run ten miles really fast..

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"peta" Discussed on My First Million

My First Million

05:42 min | 2 years ago

"peta" Discussed on My First Million

"I'm gonna work out this week. Actually and then one last quick update one thing that i'm trying to do that. I've actually done for the last. Tell me what you think about. I've done it for the last five or six days. I didn't mean to do it at first. But now i don't break it. I've walked around twenty thousand steps a day for the last about five six days. What are you tracking. Well just my iphone. So i was using the health app. Then i downloaded like a What's it called the peta. What's the anyway. I downloaded an app for gotcha and it's awesome a pedometer. That's what it is it's awesome. Have you ever walked. Have you ever tried to do like ten to fifteen thousand. A day bro. Walking the walking is the running. Now i don't know i've i've never really liked step counters. I always found them to be like an underwhelming. So for example. I was like i've got a fitbit or whatever the first one of the early ones of those were and i hit ten thousand steps on what i felt was very lazy day and immediately in my head i was like oh this is for like old sedentary people and i can use this as like a brawler of success for me. But you're really fit and you seem to care at that. You hit twenty thousand steps. Who cares right isn't like an hour of intense exercise. Really what you want and not twenty thousand steps yes or no. So there's pros and cons so the con- for walking the amount that i'm walking. It takes forever like three hours three hours of walking some regards. That's a pro because it's fun to be out there and seeing stuff i'm in a new place exploring so it's fun but the pro is also So basically if you run ten miles that will like have you run ten miles really fast..

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Audioburst Now Has One Petabyte of Indexed Talk Audio Content

podnews

00:15 sec | 2 years ago

Audioburst Now Has One Petabyte of Indexed Talk Audio Content

"Audio bursts now has one peta bite of index talk audio content from that which includes podcasts and talk radio joe. Biden was the person mentioned. The most over the last thirty days and apple got slightly more mentions than google

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"peta" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

WBZ NewsRadio 1030

03:53 min | 2 years ago

"peta" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

"Holding on for dear life during this pandemic are coming up with novel ways to stay afloat. One local restaurant owner has gotten inspiration from C s a farm shares and started selling subscriptions. WBZ. Suzanne Saz Ville reports that I come here for the restaurant industry, for sure for a lot of people, definitely Chef on a sort to known several restaurants, including Oh, Liana and Cambridge, she realized she had to think outside the box to prevent having to lay off staff again. Basically, people subscribing for three months. They pick up a box once a week, where they get it delivered boxes include vegetarian dishes and desserts. Tragic. It's like I think a lot of me with cucumber and mint in it. Hanako PETA, which is a spinach and fennel pie, Carrot Costa, which you're like carrot meatballs, almost with a chickpea turnip Raghu desert in that box was a thick yogurt cheese cake with pistachios. They have nearly 200 subscribers, cartoon says they'd have more if they had the space. In the meantime, there are 300 people on the waiting list. Suzanne Saz Veil WBZ Boston's news radio. Police now urging witnesses to come forward after a shooting killed one and injured three overnight in Weymouth. That shooting happened along Patriot Parkway at around 3 A.m.. No arrests have been made, but investigation is ongoing. Police say A few people fled the area as the shooting happened and are asking those people to reach out. Members of the Trump impeachment legal team are down to zero. The five member team was led by South Carolina lawyer Butch Powers, who just signed on days ago. Sources tell ABC News The lawyers quit partly because of disagreements over strategy on whether to bring up long, unproven and court rejected allegations of election fraud and arguing the constitutionality of holding a trial of a president no longer in office. Former Trump Attorney Rudy Giuliani's not involved nor is Alan Dershowitz, who argued in the First Trump impeachment. That was a B C's truck. Sivertsen House minority leader's efforts to unite his party are complicated by Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, known for pushing outlandish conspiracy theories back in 2019 before she was elected, she suggested House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be executed for treason more from ABC News. Congressional correspondent Rachel Scott Republican leader Kevin McCarthy has condemned Green's pass comments. He does plan to pull her aside this week to speak with her. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is already calling for greater security for members of Congress. Without naming green, she says the enemy is within the House of Representatives. Senator Mitt Romney also tweeting out criticism of green, calling her comments nonsense. It's time for Bloomberg business. Several automakers have unveiled subscription services, but the business model hasn't caught on BMW was ending its US subscription service. W like a lot of other car companies was experimenting with sort of different types of Car ownership. They feel like this is the future, whether it's going to be car sharing or ride, sharing or actually subscribing, Bloomberg's Gabrielle Coppola says. That means swapping for a different model. If you'd like. If you want to go on a vacation somewhere, or you're going out for a hot date, you might want to have a different you know, One is a three serious one is maybe an M super performance model. BMW was not the only carmaker to end a subscription program. Mercedes had a subscription program that they also canceled. GM did one for Cadillac. Called book by Cadillac. They cancel that, and the one that's still around is actually Porsche, she says. Handling the declining value of a subscription fleet has been the tricky part. You've got to make enough money to offset all the depreciation of those cars. I made curry Bloomberg business on WBZ. Boston's news radio. You.

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L'Oreal Group Bans Animal-Hair Brushes After PETA Push

Fat Mascara

01:11 min | 2 years ago

L'Oreal Group Bans Animal-Hair Brushes After PETA Push

"I have to say it's been a long time since i've been this excited about a headline like this. So l'oreal is in the l'oreal group worldwide. I'm not just talking l'oreal paris. His band animal hairbrushes across its entire portfolio following pressure. From petah cepeda documented the cruelty in the badger brush industry. They didn't excellent expose on what happens in china to these. Badgers you can google. It be warned as well as what happens what it means to get a goat hairbrush. If you're wondering. Basically they cut the skin off. The animals may stitch up the wounds. Right there on the floor. There's no like antiseptic or anything. Obviously and they don't provide pain relief so that's just a peak into this horrific industry and if you wanna know more you can certainly go onto pita or really any other kind of animal welfare source which will tell you a similar story so while this is a sad insight into the industry. I'm so happy. That loria has changed. Course and i'm really happy to see that. All of the lobbying has had a really positive impact on the

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Distributed In Memory Processing And Streaming With Hazelcast

Data Engineering Podcast

04:17 min | 3 years ago

Distributed In Memory Processing And Streaming With Hazelcast

"You hear about all these different data management platforms that talk about these things but Hazel casts advantage is around in memory and in memory isn't a new concept it's been around for a while but there have been some limitations about what it can do in the past and some of these limitations are being mitigated so that in memory speeds are opening up to more and more companies and Hazel cast was founded a little more than ten years ago actually in. Turkey by a couple of very smart engineers and they came to Silicon Valley to start his cast as a former company, and it was all about in memory computing, and so the first product was the I M D product which stands for the in memory data grit. So very much like a database, but a bit more capabilities in terms of distributed computing ways to simplify building applications that could be spread across multiple nodes in a cluster and thus enable paralyzation much more simply and so from the early roots. It was all about trying to get applications that ran faster, but at the same time maintaining some of these enterprise qualities like security and reliability and availability. So ensuring that you're not getting speed at any cost but getting the right amount of speed that you need to address your use cases while also protecting your data and with added on stream processing since and we have a set of technologies that work extremely well together and are fitting in quite well with some types of use cases that people are building today. and. You mentioned that it's not being built at the expense of some of the reliability durability guarantees that you might care about is particularly if you're working on mission critical applications so I'm wondering if you can dig a bit more into some of the benefits and the potential trade offs of in memory compute particularly for data intensive workouts and things that are going to be operating on stateful sets of operations. You have the benefits of computing have largely to do with the fact that you have fast access to data stored in memory, and so I've heard some people say that this notion of in memory computation or in memory processing is redundant. When in fact, if you think about it, the processing isn't done in memory. The processing is done in the CPU or these days increasingly more in the GP and the in memory simply means that all of the data is stored within memory and not necessarily spilled out to disk, and so when you have a system that's designed to optimize that pattern where you have all your data in. Memory that means that you can get fast access to a lot of fast processing and be able to deliver on some of these use cases that have very narrow windows for service level agreements. So you get performance the same time when you have fastest, you need to incorporate some of the typical characteristics of a distributed system like replication in a variety of ways and you need to have consistent replication. So we've after doing some research, some competitive research we've seen at least one technology where at certain levels of throughput, it pauses some of the replication to be able to handle the throughput and so most people won't notice it but. It's one of those things that if you're not watching, then you could potentially have a big problem when your dad isn't replicated and notes go down and you get failures then you might see a lot of unexpected data loss when you thought that all of the data protection capabilities were in place but for us, we don't make those trade offs when we run our benchmark. So we say here's what you get in a true production environment in terms of performance, and you can be sure that we keep everything retained for business news that you would expect, and certainly some of the trade offs are pretty clear if people from there. With these, it's mostly about how much daddy can store. So you wouldn't use Hazel cast as your say your system of record for Peta Bytes of data we're talking more about operational data where you want to process it very quickly. So things like payment processing or fraud detection are good cases where you might have a good amount of data in memory as a cup, but also have the engine processing in parallel and being able to use that data in it almost transient way. So it's it's data that persisted somewhere else, but we put it into our engines so that we can have those very stringent, very data intensive workloads running. My understanding is that the actual implementation is as a library that can be embedded

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Homophonix Artist Interviews: Rainbow Riots

HOMOGROUND

05:39 min | 3 years ago

Homophonix Artist Interviews: Rainbow Riots

"We begin in Stockholm. It is true that Sweden produces an astonishing amount of legendary music small country. Third and world music exports after the US and the UK. No surprise that within the queer communities are Sweden there exists a bevy of talent. Rainbow Reports is a nonprofit organization using arts and coach as tools to advocate for human rights, LGBT Iq, plus people globally. Now. More than ever. Our focuses humane humans should be equality and acceptance for all. It is clear that social justice is not yet where it should be, which is why arts and coach organizations like Rainbow, riots exist if you're lucky enough to live in a country where there oiled ubt brides, a lot of times people get complacent and they think, oh, this is the norm. This is the standard while it ain't Jinnai they're like seventy plus countries in the world grades illegal with same sex relations and where people get killed where where. A death penalty sometimes. Free. Sometimes I think we have freedom, but the struggle still continues. The filed the torture still continues. The fight for freedom still continues. Let's put our hands together for freedom for freedom. Through Rainbow Riots Hitter Lemberg brings to light the ongoing injustices faced by LGBT plus family worldwide. With a background in music production visuals, events publication in community projects combined with an amazingly generous creative spirit. Is Well to use music and media to inform and educate. Rainbow riots invited artists from several countries to take part in a concert as part of the Stockholm pride two, thousand and seventeen. They also made their presence known within the pride parade from the back of a truck proudly blasting out there incredible musical achievements. I asked Peta which countries were represented. On the rainbow riots flow we had a representatives from Sweden what and we had Uganda Kenya. We had Malawi and we had Jamaica. One of the standout tracks from that for me was a song called freedom. See the crowd. Jumping into. Heard? Freedom. To it in such a way can you tell me up freedom came about when I started making freedom which I co? Bro With? Lesbian rapid called you'll be she's A. Legendary rap group in this in the states called. And when we wrote it, it was kind of like part of my old project housing Wallenberg and kind of thought. It was going to be part of that. But then as I started gravitating towards doing something with Queer activism around the world I, started turning my movement Rainbow Rides into a creative project and I thought well, freedom should be part of that. Really. So that's when I went down to Uganda and started working in Uganda 'cause I thought if I'm going to make this album with queer voices from the world's most dangerous places I've gotta go to the belly of the beast which is Uganda. So I thought okay. Well, I've got to go there ain't going to be nice in preschool ad. And before I went like my passport was running out, so yeah, they add to reissue a possible at the Swedish apple before my flight and they gave me a pink. And I thought. How appropriate with driving along well, exactly Scotland I'm going into Uganda practically waving rainbow flags. This is not going to end well because I was not sure what to expect the anything I'd seen and heard was that nobody nobody in Uganda who was queer was safe and everybody was you know hiding whenever you saw an interview with somebody they will always hiding behind a blood pixellated sort of thing and and not just come to know people going to want to be part of this project. Is it going to be really difficult? What am I going to expect? So therefore came prepared with a song that I'd already written which with freedom I thought at the best maybe I can get some people to dogs in the video at least will have something. But when I arrived, I found a thriving queer community with love creativity and that's how the project started. When I arrived in Uganda realized wow I could really make a whole out I could turn this into something much bigger or they're already artists to establish themselves within the community who were making music. N You lots of quiz singers and performers an artist, and I ended up right in the middle of it. So you know I arrived armed with one song and you know it turned into an album of freedom was starting song, and of course, a features my my old correcting partner you'll be of your majesty but also features a Ugandan singer cold deep lack on bicycle and also on the spoken word intro and the thing about freedom was the I always knew that it was really instant kind of be happy pride song and I just wanted to dot context to put it in. Something else. So it's not just the body, song? To. Put it into context of something really really important life and death and I kinda thought what what better way to to get the message out to make people ons. That was to make them listen.

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Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers

The Vergecast

46:42 min | 3 years ago

Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers

"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.

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"Marine Mammal is on the verge of extinction in Mexico's Gulf of California. Conservationists have been trying to save the the Keita Porpoise for years but that work has been complicated by the nets and even drug cartels from Arizona public media in Tucson area Brosius reports seafood restaurants. Colorful mosaics line. The Boardwalk in downtown San Felipe pay fishing is a mainstay of the small northern Mexico. Town love I keep. The restaurant is just a couple blocks over a framed photo of the little porpoise that could be. The town's mascot hangs in the office of Ramon Franco the as head of a local fishermen cooperative representing about five hundred and seventy families is sending. Well it though this earth announced that animal as you must know only lives here in this area and it's ours belongs to us. Mexicans for decades of akitas population has been declining as fishermen inadvertently catch them while pursuing fish and shrimp but dea says many local fishermen treasure the animal when it rises above the water with its characteristic. Black rimmed is he says That causes those do those. It's as if it was smiling with you. So real fishermen don't WanNa harm them. It's the opposite in the last few decades. Mexico has established of Akita Refuge and backed research into the species but lately the number of Akita has plummeted around just a dozen or less as poaching for another endangered fish called. The Toba has ramped up. Fishermen use large Gill Nets to trap the toe to Wada. Which also killed Akita in two thousand fifteen Mexico's then president banned Gill Nets in the Vicki habitat increased enforcement against poaching and started paying fishermen not to work so the species could recover. This little sanitizer came to an agreement that we would leave the sea so that the federal government clean up the illegal boats but Diaz says enforcement was insufficient. Problem got worse. He says he's filed numerous complaints with the government to no avail then a year ago. The payments fishermen stopped those. Odi The liberal Emma. So now we have a serious problem. Because we don't have a fishing practice that is permitted. And we also don't have any compensation. Last September Diaz announced his fisherman had no option but to return to the sea to support their families. He says two thousand eighteen. Us Ban Mexican seafood caught with Gillnets has only made life harder for legal fishermen. Mexico missed an opportunity to be a world leader in shifting a fishery over from Gillnets to alternative gear. Barbara Taylor is marine conservation biologist with the US government who studied the Makita for thirty years. She says the Gillnet Ban wasn't very effective. Because some fishermen hurting financially were tempted into the illegal Totowa Trade F- Iquitos and Gill Nets are completely incompatible. And the fishermen needed to be able to make a living and so developing alternative fishing methods. Were really the only way for Bikita. Survive Louise Mendosa is working on it in his centrally bay office. He pulls a large thin strand net from a milk crate. Wait to the bottom. He's a member of pesca obeys. Say A small nonprofit group of fishermen working with the Mexican government to test alternative driftnets like this one called suit. Peta for this war with the current only with but Mendoza says using these nets can be nearly impossible because of the sheer number of illegal gill nets under the waves. He says even though it's cheaper it will be hard to convince fishermen to use it. They've become very effective. The Gill Nets and with this kind of equipment. You have to get money. The Keita Researcher Barbara Taylor says Mexico needs to support legal fishing if alternative nets prove less profitable and crackdown on poaching. Akitas prime habitat. She still has hope for the species but there are fewer of Akiba every year though. Two of poaching is rampant because the fishes swim bladder is highly prized in China. As a medicinal food. Because there's a little money is more money than drugs. I mean we're talking about twenty thousand dollars twenty five dollars for one soon blind. Jp Geoffroy leads the Conservation Group Sea Shepherd's Makita protection efforts. He says that money has attracted international drug cartels and during high season there can be dozens of boats fishing illegally inside the Vicki to refuge for the last five years sea shepherd has been working with some local fishermen to collect Gill Nets. Trying give the species a fighting chance to recover important. Centrally Bay Crew Members. Use a hook to move huge bags of fishing gear. They've pulled from the ocean. All these boxes contain all Guinea. Gotten it that way we move from riveted by Kedah not all local support sea shepherd's work recently suspected poachers fired shots at a sea. Shepherd vessel in the Makita refuge despite that tension. Geoffroy says they support local fishermen who just want to do their job. We are just trying to work with them and explain to them to. At least respect the small rectangle release the critical area. Geoffroy says if they can just protect the remaining Makita the species can recover but for now observers. Say there's little evidence that current efforts to stop poaching will be enough for NPR news. I'm Arianna Brosius.

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Wuhan coronavirus cases spike again as outbreak shows no signs of slowing

Hard Factor

03:34 min | 3 years ago

Wuhan coronavirus cases spike again as outbreak shows no signs of slowing

"A few thought men. This corona virus is probably just GonNa Peter out and go away like I did. That was misguided thinking king and I am glad that I'm never going to be trained to be a doctor because I would be a shitty doctor so you just you just. Don't listen to a word I say on this podcast. Don't listen I thought so. You were over blowing. This turns out you weren't on Wednesday alone. China reported thirty seven hundred new cases of the Corona Virus and seventy three new new deaths bringing the overall infection. Totals to over twenty eight thousand cases reported while in mainland China and the death toll to almost six hundred in May not mainland Amen China so far. That's only a few weeks in. If you got some of the dams I got for being the krona virus. Guy You wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Well I do want to say one thing. You would be shitty doctor but you'd be a real fun doctor because you'd be one of those doctors that doesn't judge you know what goes until you're dead. You buy power only live once. Dm from someone on that. Got A notification from Chinese national that worked at a crematorium and said that fifteen busloads of dead bodies time all sorts of fucking only only used to busloads those those rumors okay. There's tons of those tons of 'em this I'm saying what's reported by the Chinese government to the media. It's all right so Almost four thousand of those twenty eight thousand active cases in China of the Corona virus are considered critical so the death toll is going to continue to climb the official shaw the unofficial whatever. It doesn't matter a lot of people it's a bad situation. The US has twelve known cases. Total nine people have been detained at our borders. I do too the new travel ban of trying to keep people with the krona virus out in hundreds of Americans who were evacuated from Wuhan. That's the epicenter are being held in quarantine AH and military bases in California until they can be certified for reentry so the. US is doing a pretty good job trying to keep it out of our borders only twelve cases in the country country. Not so bad hell. Yeah we are why we built the wall man those practice. That's right yeah. The walls walls really paying off now. Hong Kong is also doing a fourteen day. Quarantine is they have twenty. One cases confirmed in the city and they do not want any more same with Taiwan. Basically China is aware they need to isolate themselves and contain heinous bread as much as they possibly can because they need to contain it even within their own country And they Chinese experts expected it may take about six weeks to stop the spread from continuing to grow and then of course after that six week period. If you can stop it from continuing to grow then you can deal with all of the thousands and thousands and thousands of people who are infected stuff. Tell you what's scary. Suffer people in China. They be able to do that in four weeks. They've just everyone not sit got on the other side of their wall which is is pretty impressive. One if I know my history correctly I don't know if that I don't know if that checks out see what I'm saying. Oh I don't I don't think it's already have the wall. Think about it with right but they I only have it on like between them in one country. I it's leading to nightmare situations like the diamond princess cruise ship. That's being held off the coast of Japan and Quarantine. This is thirty seven hundred people on a cruise ship who got held because ten people tested positive for corona virus. They can't go back to Japan now. Twenty are sick with. They're going overboard if I'm on being held four thousand people on a fucking cruise ship. Just continually getting corona virus. And they don't know what to do with him. That's insane shift from. I know what you do your royal rumble. Them it's over the top rope for those events are connected and

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Prince Andrew Offers ‘Zero Cooperation’ in Epstein Case

Brett Winterble

00:35 sec | 3 years ago

Prince Andrew Offers ‘Zero Cooperation’ in Epstein Case

"British palace officials were tight lipped over word that prince Andrew's given zero cooperation in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation CBS news Vicki Barker has the story from London in the BBC interview that effectively ended his days as a working royal prince Andrew was asked if he'd cooperate with US law enforcement agencies investigating his former friend the late convicted peta final Jeffrey Epstein if push came to shove and the league's legal advice was to do so then I would be duty bound to do so well push did come to shove it appears the legal advice Andrew got was not to

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Pope removes shroud of secrecy from clergy sex abuse cases

AP News Radio

00:36 sec | 4 years ago

Pope removes shroud of secrecy from clergy sex abuse cases

"Pope Francis removes the shroud of secrecy from clergy sex abuse cases pope Francis has abolished the use of the Vatican's highest level of secrecy and clergy sexual abuse cases victims and their advocates say the move to get rid of the pontifical secrecy rule was long overdue but they caution that proof of its effectiveness would come when the Catholic hierarchy is forced to respond to inquiries grand jury subpoenas and prosecutors who want all internal documentation about abusers Francis had faced criticism that the high level of confidentiality on abuse cases has been used to protect peta files silence victims and keep law enforcement from investigating I'm Walter Ratliff

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BrainStuff Classics: Are Plants Conscious?

BrainStuff

05:13 min | 4 years ago

BrainStuff Classics: Are Plants Conscious?

"Hey rain stuff. I'm more in Vogel bomb and this is another a classic episode from our former host This one deals with the question to which the answer may seem obvious but research has made more complicated. Our plants unconscious Abe rain stuff. It's Christian Sager. So there's this old episode of Star Trek called Wink of even I. You may have seen it. There's this race of aliens that live in hyper sped up acceleration so when the crew of the enterprise appears to meet up with with them they seem so slow that they're unable to move. Now imagine that scenario if you were the aliens wouldn't you assume humans humans were unhurt objects with no consciousness. Now let's take this and apply it to our relationship with plants. When we watched videos of plant life sped up we see their lively movement but even though plants move and respond to stimuli? They're not conscious right otherwise. Every time time we ate vegetables we'd be causing them pain. Wait wait a minute Kim. Plants feel pain. Well okay there is. This guy wants his name was Charles. Charles Darwin you might have heard of him and he wants proposed. Something called the root brain hypothesis. He proposed that the tip of a plant's root could act like a brain does in some animals receiving sensory input and directing movement in the years since Darwin made this proposal. There's been a growing movement in science called plant neurobiology and it debates the way we think about plants and consciousness justness other scientists hate this term but who cares because here some of the things we know about plants because of this really unusual research research. Let's start with plant senses. We know that plants have a variety of sense. Some that can actually act as analogues is to our sight smell touch taste and hearing in fact. There's evidence that when plants here the sound of a caterpillar chewing on a leaf life. They respond defensively by producing chemicals. Like mustard oil. This happens even if the sound is a recording and nothing is eating the plant creepy right. Plants can also communicate sometimes plant. Chemical production is like a method of communicating communicating with other plants. So here's an example that smell of freshly cut grass that we all know that's actually a distress call to warn other plants chance of danger. It's true in gardens. No one can hear you scream now. When this distress call reaches other plants they will also emit the chemicals to warn their neighbors as well and these calls can even work on different species of plant? For instance a sage plant can signal a tobacco acco plant to emit an odor that's noxious to animals. That are eating the sage all right. So you hear the term plant neurobiology and you say but plants plants. Don't have brains. Well one of the reasons why many scientists hate that term is because plants don't have neurons but they do produce neuro active chemicals that act like those in the human brain glutamate receptors form memories in humans and they're also also found in plants and some hormones are transported around plants similar to how neurotransmitters move through animal brains likewise some plants are vulnerable to drugs that disrupt neuro transmitters in the human brain like PROZAC or methamphetamines. Peta means they even produced their own ethylene which is possibly used as an anesthetic. When they're stressed out? Plants even have a kind of nervous system in that may allow information to travel around the plant via electrical signals. So if plants have sort of brains brain's do they remember stuff. Well yeah plants also have their own kind of memory. In fact there's a plant called the Mosa Deka plant in closes its leaflets immediately after their touched but because this requires energy. The plant won't do it if it's unnecessary. However when researchers dropped potted mimosas fifteen

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Two jail guards for Jeffrey Epstein charged with cover-up in his suicide

Chuck and Kelly

03:08 min | 4 years ago

Two jail guards for Jeffrey Epstein charged with cover-up in his suicide

"Some big developments Kelly in the death of Jeffrey Epstein to jail guards responsible for monitoring in the ninety according to the corner killed himself they've not been criminally charged in this case yeah they are accused of falsifying the records because they weren't supervising him the day before he had been moved off of suicide watch when you're on suicide watch a twenty four hour surveillance both in terms of video and a guard right there when they moved him back into the general population they were supposed to check on them every thirty minutes the two guards you were right fifteen feet away were either sleeping or online shopping and then they falsify the record to say that they had checked on him when in fact they had yeah and that's that's that's awful so their charge now I'm I'm I guess I'm hoping I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I still have questions about this case I'm hoping that these actually these these this case goes to trial and we can maybe shed more light on exactly what didn't didn't happen there because people are saying you know how could this happen to such a prominent inmate who was on suicide watch also we know that people allow inmates don't like peta files it after he was accused of being such and also he had a lot of powerful friends who we could may be implicated in Syria Iran so you have all that intrigue all right plus you have his family hiring doctor Michael Baden to do the autopsy and their and their own investigation and he determined that the marks on the neck were not consistent with hanging it was consistent with strangulation there were no cameras ally on his cell at all so there are a lot of questions that I'm not a conspiracy there is either I tend to make fun of those people who are you know I I I do think that in this particular case I could see a scenario playing out where you know what there is a somebody is a has this to the pata file who is you know allows another inmate to come in looks the other way and pretend that they don't know what's going on and there's no camera and there's no record of anybody so I mean or somebody from the outside comes in and says Hey we'll give you I will facilitate a transfer to a nicer facility or will reduce your sentence if you know you you go in there and do what you need to do and and will look the other way yeah I look at it if if I had a gun to my head right now I still think it was a suicide he finally got a chance to do what he did it his future is bleak but but I don't know I'd like I'd like more information of interesting interesting yeah hearing yesterday in Washington where the what one of the committee's handling it is looking into and they they they talk to the the head of the prisons there care of Kathleen hawks Sawyer she appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee and she was not asked about hello all things in the federal prison system including the F. sting case in in this exchange with the committee chair Lindsey Graham senator from South Carolina they they were talking about this conspiracy theory and she confirmed that there is the FBI is looking into a quote unquote criminal enterprise possibility with the case this high profile there's got to be their major malfunction the system are criminal enterprise it for that to allow this to happen so are you looking at both the FBI looking at both if the FBI is involved and they are looking criminal enterprise yes so I mean that is sort of obvious but it's interesting the FBI does have a formal investigation those are the two possibilities either there was incompetence or something

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Seth Rollin

The Rack Radio Show

04:51 min | 4 years ago

Seth Rollin

"Cancelled the WW network trended for over I think twelve hours in the United States brought this up on the post show but it's worth mentioning again how long it actually trended in the US on twitter that's that's equal to give divas a chance it took a long time go away and wwe heard the message loud and clear that the fans were not happy with the decision of for Seth Rollins to retain the title at helmets L. and it wasn't even that seth retain the title it's the way that it happened where you had a referee stoppage in Helena sell first time I think ever for a rest pitch for what Rock Nestor coming in and killing two people but for basically what happened is Seth had br on the ground he had a bunch of stuff piled on top of him takes out a sledgehammer he questions himself the restaurants talk me out of it says like no no no I'm going to do it seth hits the stuff with the sledgehammer and bray and Aref immediately calls for the bell a call for stretcher for Bray which I don't know I go back I've gone back and forth on this because at one hand yes he's absolutely human being a medical attention he does deserve a stretcher but at the same instance he's a Hor- character do you really want horror character stretchered out no but I need to read something before reaching you okay Rod Peta the official art with Bray motionless and Seth clearly doing whatever is going to take to win that match I had to think of the competitor safety and at that moment I did I thought was best and I was getting to that because I was gonNA bring that up next so Monday night they waited until ten thirty to talk about the match and they just sort of highlighted didn't said that seth had one and then that came out like two Wednesday on the new network and social media show the bump you go there's at ten am eastern on Monday mornings on Wednesday mornings the bump is actually decent show different but yeah so they put that out which didn't really help the situation no it's just pissed more you know it's kind of like just just let sleeping dogs lie on this one don't don't try to defend decision because I feel like this was somebody somewhere that made this choice we have to defend our decision they're wrong that's what it honestly feels like he was actually pissed off that the fans were angry at this and so they made this poor man who was the referee in this match like defend his quote unquote choice to stop the match even though it was really his choice and he's like he's taking the brunt of this and we're all pretty much like double finger no no that's not accept into vote because I mean this led to this whole situation has led to people going on the network which I'm sure made them very happy but when on the network and pull photog- and gifts and stills of past hell in the cell matches and pretty much the most violent ory about even though they filled every sledgehammer they did they did they pulled every sledgehammer moment they pulled every gory violent moment from hellenise Allen Trust me there's a bunch of them long blades they did or take a lot of weight were either triple h you're taker but they pulled this and then proceeded as posted to social media as basically like w t f like this okay but this wasn't and I mean you got it from the human perspective Brian is a person but this character the fiend that he is portraying is not no and he is monster from your nightmares and he's relentless and he's unstoppable in the fact that you had seth rollins get him on his back for probably I five five or so minutes and proceeded to do this while seth running around in the rain like that's the whole thing that was really bothersome about this was not that seth got breakdown that's fine that's totally cool like seth is the beast slayer sess should be very difficult to beat it shouldn't have been easy for for Brady to just walk in and kick crap out of Seth but the fact that breaks laid there motionless for ten minutes now or not to miss but like five minutes is seth proceeds to pile ladders and chairs into boxes and everything else on top of him like that's that's what made this really really hard because it's like well wait a minute this is the guy two months ago or whatever at summer slam massacred Fin Baylor just like eviscerated fan valor. Now he's doing this with seth it just it didn't make sense nothing about this made sense

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Justin Bieber slams PETA after they criticize him over exotic cats

Drew Garabo Live

00:40 sec | 4 years ago

Justin Bieber slams PETA after they criticize him over exotic cats

"For Justin Bieber just drop thirty five thousand dollars on to exotic cats cats cats what kind of cat J. be adopted a pair of Savannah kittens a little more than a month ago which he named sushi and tuna and revealed the brother and sister felines on Instagram as my children much to the dismay of pizza. St statement chastising his ox exotic pets. and he clapped back saying either go focus on real problems like poaching an animal brutality your trip in because I want a specific kind of cash your check when I got my dog Oscar and he was a rescue every Pat we must get must be a rescue.

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Buckingham Palace, Jeffrey And Andrew discussed on Gary and Shannon

Gary and Shannon

04:48 min | 4 years ago

Buckingham Palace, Jeffrey And Andrew discussed on Gary and Shannon

"So the palace is once again on the defensive Buckingham Palace all over this Jeffrey abstain prince Andrew situation well a huge document dump right a couple Fridays ago all about that defamation lawsuits between Virginia Roberts this seventeen year old woman who claims she was a sex slave for Jeffrey up steam and people are still going through all the documents or what's in there and slowly little bits are trickling out here and most recently it was the information by the pilot the pilots David Rogers is sixty six and he was the pilot on Jeffrey abstains private jet I have a question I want to know more about that guy yeah because he's like a Dottie Sandusky he was flying that plane he was living in that house and he probably had that door polder the curtain pole right he knew what was going on willing to overlook this right for the money he flew the chat he also talked about having seen some very high profile guests on this child rape airplane child rape air president Clinton Naomi Campbell Kevin Spacey a number of times now in this one specifically he talks about the the woman who was involved in this original lawsuit are really miss got free right Jeffrey it turns out that the deposition is among the court documents that we've been talking about like like a Shannon just mention this is the first time that both prince Andrew in Virginia Joffrey work on EPS teens that at Jack at the same time now that the pilot said that I was very careful to say listen I was in the car you know why in with my yoke I didn't see anything going on back well I don't know if anything bad happen I don't know if he said that but he all they say is that he did not accuse prince Andrew of any wrongdoing on the flights so I don't know if he said I didn't see anything he certainly didn't say I saw prince Andrew doing anything but why would he was flying the plane Virginia Roberts Jeffrey is this woman's name sure I think her Roberts is her maiden name and Jeffrey's now her married name that's why it's a slightly confusing but Jeffrey I've seen prince Andrew gill lane Maxwell and this young woman wore passengers on a flight from New Jersey down to Saint Thomas to go to Pat a file island had a file island now why would prince Andrew be on the flight to a file island if he wasn't engaging and peta file things or at the very least ladies and let's say he wasn't engaging in it but he knew what was going on I was happening under his nose that's the part that was also report yesterday that I read it prince Andrew would defend Jeffrey apps dean in yelling fights with friends who would say to him Hey you got to cut ties with this Jeffrey Epstein character he is bad news and he's a registered sex offender any was convicted of raping girls and prince Andrew would say something along the lines of you don't know him like I know him see and it's that kind of behavior at that points to him engaging in the same child rape stuff that that obscene was I mean him on the flights now in the flight logs as being passengers to that island coupled with the video that came out over the weekend it showing him in twenty ten to years after everyone knew I've seen was a child rapist in his home in New York is bad for the palace this is the guy that's forth from the throne and they had to release another statement disputing the pilots claims the statement said the evidence statement was submitted in a case in which the Duke was not a party and which any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue the statement shows a number of inconsistencies between the dukes alleged location and its actual location when checked with the court circular in some cases he's on different continents prove it okay well here's a here's the other part of that the woman who gave this deposition her lawsuit was not contemporary wasn't done in two thousand one so I find it very likely that you're gonna be able to trip up on some dates like that I mean this woman was said to be what nineteen years old at the time that she was super seventeen years old I think when she was on these flights what what do you remember what you were doing on a Tuesday and when you were seventeen years old no but I wasn't getting raped on a jet by billionaires I think if I was then maybe it would stick in my brain a little bit more for that scrambled your brain even more you were unwilling to to remember those those states I don't now a different different impacts on

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