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AP News Radio
Ahead of House debt ceiling vote, Biden shores up Democrats and McCarthy scrambles for GOP support
"The president and House speaker are scrambling for support ahead of a house debt ceiling vote. The debt limit and budget cuts package that squeaked through the House rules committee on a 7 to 6 vote is headed to the U.S. House. President Biden and speaker Kevin McCarthy are trying to assemble a centrist bipartisan coalition to get it passed and avert a potentially disastrous U.S. default in less than a week. We'll pass the bill. Speaker McCarthy is of all the congresses in the past. You're going to add up all the money that they rescinded and add them together. This is higher than that. 218 votes are needed in a 435 member House, the deal faces opposition from hard right Republicans who say the budget cuts don't go far enough. Trillions and trillions of dollars in debt for crumbs for a pittance. Representative Scott Perry is the chairman of the freedom caucus. This deal fails, fails completely. The White House said President Biden has had more than 100 individual phone calls with lawmakers, House democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries, says Democrats will do their part. We're not interested in political gamesmanship. We're interested in avoiding a catastrophic default. Liberals are upset the deal greenlights a new work requirements for older Americans on food aid and a natural gas pipeline through Appalachia, Jennifer King, Washington
AP News Radio
Facing GOP backlash, McCarthy labors to shore up votes for debt deal in time to prevent US default
"House speaker Kevin McCarthy is hunting votes for the dead ceiling and budget deal he negotiated with President Biden, a bill conservatives are blasting for not having enough spending cuts. Some Republicans like Oklahoma's Tom Cole say the bill does the job by avoiding a debt default. And we will achieve real reductions in spending while doing so. But the hard right house freedom caucus and chairman Scott Perry say there aren't nearly enough. And we will do everything in our power to stop it. With some conservatives warning of potentially trying to oust McCarthy. I'm not sure what everybody wanted. We couldn't get everything we wanted. He needs two thirds of Republicans to approve the bill. Here at The White House. This compromise agreement is reasonable for both sides. Budget chief shalanda young says the discussion now should be about getting the bill to President Biden, not about which party won. The American people came out ahead. Sagar Meghani at The White House.
AP News Radio
Key test ahead on federal debt deal that could prevent a disastrous default
"Hard right conservatives are blasting House speaker Kevin McCarthy for the budget deal he reached with President Biden, put simply the house freedom caucus is not happy. This deal fails. It is a bad deal. It's defies conservatism. One of the biggest abominations since I've been in Washington D.C.. Not one Republican should vote for this deal. From chairman Scott Perry down, freedom caucus members say the deal does not enact the deep spending cuts they want, accusing McCarthy of fracturing the GOP by giving in to Democrat demands. Texas chip Roy and others say they'll work to block the deal. And no matter what happens, there's going to be a reckoning about what just occurred unless we stop this bill by tomorrow. Sagar Meghani, Washington.
The Dan Bongino Show
Jamaal Bowman Harasses Marjorie Taylor Greene During Interview
"Here's an audio clip of Marjorie Taylor Greene She's talking to the press and again Jamaal Bowman he may sound familiar because this is the same guy Who did this with Tom Massey Actually Massey to be fair stop to talk to him Any empty capitol hoodie lost his mind This guy Bowman does not want to be a congressman Bowman wants to be a social media influencer He has no interest whatsoever He wants to be like the next Madison beer or Alex Earl That's what he wants to be He wants to be an influencer He does not want to be a congressman Here's Jamaal Bowman showing up Just harassing Marjorie Taylor Greene For Noah Perry's and I want you to pay close attention to the audio at the end Something happens at the end Check this out We got to get rid of Biden to save the country The party listen no more QAnon No more land That we're seeing it No more dead ceiling nonsense Come on down See what the party My children Do something about guns Where are the migrants Children You guys We love you We love the guys and children The family lost them You can't find them That's crazy Yeah migrant children Hey let me tell you this Save the party That's AOC at the end You know AOC she's effectively a professional social media influencer too That's all they do They don't accidentally legislator do anything effective to advance any kind of prosperity principles in the country They're just big social media influencers That's all they want
AP News Radio
Army sergeant who fatally shot BLM protester in Texas sentenced to 25 years as governor seeks pardon
"An Uber driver who shot another armed white man in a Texas protest has received a lengthy sentence in a case that drew the attention of the Texas governor. This court census you to a term of 25 years in the Texas department of criminal justice. In Austin, Texas district judge Clifford Brown handed down the sentence Wednesday to Daniel Perry. Perry is white U.S. Army sergeant, serving at fort hood. He was working as a ride share driver when he shot and killed Garrett foster a white U.S. Air Force veteran who was legally carrying an AK-47 at a crowded George Floyd protest in July of 2020, Texas governor Greg Abbott said Perry was railroaded, and has requested a pardon recommendation, while prosecutors say Perry's social media history and text messages suggest he's a racist who might commit violence again. The victim's mother, Sheila foster, spoke in court. I pray to God. That one day he will get rid of all this hate that's in your heart. I'm Jennifer King.
AP News Radio
Prosecutors want 25-year sentence in Texas protest killing
"A U.S. Army sergeant convicted of fatally shooting a man during a 2020 Black Lives Matter protest in Texas is scheduled to be sentenced today. Prosecutors are asking for a minimum of 25 years in prison for 36 year old Daniel Perry, who was working as a ride share driver in downtown Austin when he shot and killed 28 year old Garrett foster, foster was legally carrying an AK-47 rifle as he took part in a demonstration following the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, prosecutor saint Perry's history of racist texts and social media posts expose a threat of violence likely to resurface Perry claims foster pointed his gun at him so he fired, and his lawyers are asking for a maximum of ten years behind bars, Texas Republican governor Greg Abbott has said he will sign a pardon once a recommendation from the Texas board of pardons and paroles hits his desk. I'm John a water
AP News Radio
The Frenchie becomes a favorite — and a dog-show contender
"The French bulldog the new favorite dog breed in the U.S. has never won the nation's preeminent dog show, but that could change this year. Winston, the frenchie with NFL connections is a strong contender at this week's Westminster dog show, taking runner up last year and winning the national dog show in November. LA chargers defensive end Morgan Fox co owns him with handler Perry pason, the French bulldog went from 83rd most popular breed in the U.S. to number one in three decades, but its rise to the top has been dogged by concerns about health, the ethics of breeding and some high profile and sometimes fatal, dog nappings and robberies, Julie Walker, New York.
AP News Radio
Uk has Big Lunch and Windsor concert following coronation Saturday
"A weekend long celebration of the coronation of King Charles the third continues with luncheons held throughout the UK and a concert at Windsor Castle. The festivities continue to support the newly crowned monarch, even as many have questioned the relevance of The Crown, and the cost of such a spectacle at a time when living costs are so high. The gilded spectacle of the king being crowned in an ancient religious ceremony at Westminster Abbey the day before takes a more down to earth turn, with picnics and street parties being planned across the UK. Events conclude with a concert featuring Katy Perry, Lionel Richie, and the boy band that take that in the grounds of Windsor Castle. Charles De Ledesma, London
AP News Radio
Aerosmith announces farewell tour starting in September
"Aerosmith have announced a farewell tour. I'm Archie's are a letter with the latest. According to guitarist Joe Perry, it's about time, Aerosmith will start their peace out tour in Philadelphia on September 2nd. It will end January 26th in Montreal with a stop in the band's hometown of Boston on New Year's Eve. Perry says it's a chance to celebrate the band's 50 plus years and they don't know how much longer everybody's going to be healthy. Drummer Joey Kramer will not be part of the tour so he can focus on his family and health, Perry says Kramer is still a band member and his presence will be sorely missed.
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Rep. Scott Perry: Supporting Mandate for U.S. History College Course
"Unfortunately, the subversive left and particularly the communists that have been operating in our country since the 30s have been on the steady path of changing that. And so while we just assumed that everybody gets, most people, I think, a lot of people, maybe not most, but a lot of people don't even know what this country is about. They don't even know what a republic is. And if they did, I think they would be stomping mad about what's happening all around them and the freedoms and the liberties, the choices that have been taken away from them by an oppressive. It is an oppressive federal government and so if look, I don't like any kind of mandates from government and that force us into things. But we're going to have to realize that we're in a war with the left. We are in a war with the left, which seeks to undermine the very foundations of this nation and change it into something unrecognizable to every single American. And if we're going to be in that world, we're going to have to we're going to have to fight without our hands tied behind our back. And so advocating for love of country and understanding of the foundation of this nation and what governance is supposed to be here and what is not supposed to be, we can't assume that people know it and it's going to have to be a fundamental requisite if we're going to maintain the republic that we hope to live in. Like
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Rep. Scott Perry: We Passed Something; Biden Will Still Blame Us
"He's going to continue to blame us and what's frustrating is is we've actually passed something and he said that we couldn't and that's why he didn't have to deal with. That's what we have passed something. Where is the Senate? Why aren't they even working on it? Why is this now the responsibility of the House of Representatives? We have put an offer on the table. And I know that the president has put an offer on the table. His offer is, I won't negotiate. You're going to just you're just going to increase the credit card limit. Well, okay, I might not like meeting in the middle, but his position is still. I will not negotiate. You're just going to do this. And somehow, the leftist media just continues to side with him and tell the American people that he's on the side of being correct. How is it responsible while our dollar is flailing in the internationally and we've reached the debt limit mostly by actions of Democrats, Joe Biden, his party and leftist in our party, why is it our responsibility to not only pay the bills of this wrongful spending this unaffordable and mostly unwanted spending, but also allow them to just keep on taking more of hard earned tax dollars from American citizens. And so that's what's frustrating to me. I think that we're going to have to look, we're going to have to stay on offense. And I hope that there's a press conference next week in the Senate that says to Chuck Schumer, while the house sent us a bill, why don't you take it up and let's see if it can pass, right? Don't tell us it can't pass. You've told us that in the past and things did move through the Senate. And then what's President Biden is going to say, they're all covering for each other and their lack of willingness to actually address the problem, all they want to do is just keep on taking more money and spending more money. It is unacceptable.
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Rep. Scott Perry Supports U.S. Studies Mandate at N.C. Colleges
"Is the idea and the ideals of this country have shaped the worldview of what freedom is and what it is to be a moral upstanding nation and the things that you follow. And of course, we just all assumed that everybody would always feel that way. Unfortunately, the subversive left and particularly the communists that have been operating in our country since the 30s have been on the steady path of changing that. And so while we just assumed that everybody gets, most people, I think, a lot of people, maybe not most, but a lot of people don't even know what this country is about. They don't even know what a republic is. And if they did, I think they would be stomping mad about what's happening all around them and the freedoms and the liberties, the choices that have been taken away from them by an oppressive. It is an oppressive federal government and so look, I don't like any kind of mandates from government and that force us into things. But we're going to have to realize that we're in a war with the left. We are in a war with the left, which seeks to undermine the very foundations of this nation and change it into something unrecognizable to every single American. And if we're going to be in that war, we're going to have to we're going to have to fight without our hands tied behind our back. And so advocating for love of country and understanding of the foundation of this nation and what governance is supposed to be here and what it's not supposed to be. We can't assume that people know it and it's going to have to be a fundamental requisite if we're going to maintain the republic that we hope to live in. Like
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Rep. Andrew Clyde: Supporting McCarthy’s Debt-Limit Plan
"Good, and I understand, you know, granted, we are going to have to raise it a smidge, but it looks as though in the great scheme of things that there are measures in place to stop this out of control spending. Where do we stand on all of this right now? Well, I would absolutely agree with chairman Scott Perry. You know, I'm a proud member of the freedom caucus too. And we worked on this and have been working on this for quite a few months. And I think the plan that has come together is a very good plan. It does raise the debt feeling a smidge as it is necessary to do that. But you have some tremendous aspects of this limit save and grow act of 2023. I mean, it puts our spending for 2024 back down to the FY 22 level, stays a $130 billion off the top right there. And then it caps it at 1% annual growth for the next ten years. That is amazing. Just to be able to do that, the whole package there is like $3.6 trillion in savings. But I'm more concerned about what are we saving this coming fiscal year. That's what is really the important thing because Congress is famous for creating a plan that you have the savings in year 9 and ten and nobody ever sees that. And that's not what this is. It reclaims the unspent COVID funds about 60 billion. It defunds the IRS's army about 71 billion in immediate savings and then you have the Green New Deal tax credits that it eliminates from the IRA from the inflation reduction act, and then it eliminates the student loan giveaway, which is a 400 and about $65 billion in media savings. And these are great things and I'm going to support this plan. Well,
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Rep. Scott Perry: Biden Has Maxed Out His Credit Limit
"We have reached our credit card limit and of course president Biden with the normal Obama kind of viewpoint thinks that we should just increase the credit card limit and just keep spending us into oblivion on things that we don't need. You know, I don't know whether you know this or your listeners know this, but during COVID and stimulus, we spent three quarters of a $1 billion for prisoners for prisoners for their stimulus. I mean, that's the kind of crazy stuff that, you know, it shouldn't even be discussed in Washington yet D.C. yet this guy and The White House says he's not going to negotiate. Well, if he wants to default and if he wants to crash the markets, it'll be his business because I think that we have, look, we should not celebrate this time. We should not celebrate the fact that we've got this debt ceiling raise, you know, essentially paying the bill for what has already been spent by the left. But if we can get these systemic foundational changes, especially the mandatory programs, including the spending caps, we'll get a $1 trillion out of the first year and savings. And four and a half $1 trillion over ten. Now, you never count on what happens in the out years. I know we've been burned plenty of times on that before. But with a $1 trillion in the first year and knowing that the appropriations process is right behind the debt ceiling vote, we have the opportunity finally as Republicans to drive the cost curve down and bring this thing back into balance. And
Dennis Prager Podcasts
The Financial Lies Behind Anti-Oil Industry Hysteria
"I am Alex Epstein author of fossil future why global human flourishing requires more oil, colon natural gas, not less. He is the presenter of this week's PragerU video fossil fuels the big picture. Alex is a fighter, Alex is a truth teller, and it is the light to have you on again, Alex. Alex do they ever pleasure? Alex, did they ever invite you for debates? I would say I forced debates. I don't know, nobody was inviting me for debates at Greenpeace or something like that or the Sierra club fundraiser. I think it would be a pretty failed fundraiser. If I were invited to debate, I mean, tomorrow, though, here's an interesting thing. There's this event in Dallas called earth X run by a guy named Trammell crow. And the secretary of energy, former secretary of energy Rick Perry helped organize an event and it's going to be him interviewing me and then the Texas state climatologist who's somewhat of a climate catastrophe. So that's not exactly a debate, but I think it'll be really interesting for people to see what happens when we square up against each other.
The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
Dinesh and Debbie Review New Developments in the Daniel Perry Case
"Some new developments in the Daniel Perry case, Daniel Perry, you might recall is the sergeant, the Uber driver, former military guy, who was accosted at one of these George Floyd riots. He was surrounded, his vehicle was surrounded, and a fellow and activist named Garrett foster approaches him with a gun, maybe an AR, I believe, pointed directly at him. An AK-47, and fearing for his life, at least this is what the case was about. Daniel Perry shoots this guy dead, pleads self defense, and yet is found guilty of murder in Travis county. The Austin area. Now, last we heard the governor was in the process of figuring out the process of pardoning Daniel Perry, but there's a new development, a new development is that is that Perry's attorneys have filed a motion for a new trial, and they basically say the jury was tampered with. The jury was not presented with full information, important evidence was withheld, and moreover, one of the jurors was going home doing research on the computer and then bringing it to his or I don't know if it's a man or woman findings to the rest of the jury. I think you know this is completely not allowed. You served on juries. Yeah, that is so not allowed. You can not do that. That's crazy. That definitely would be. Well, explain the deliberation process. Right, so you are not allowed to talk about the case at all. And you're not alone. Outside of that. Outside of the jury room. The jury room. You're only allowed to discuss the evidence shown to you in the courtroom. You can not go home and go, you know, I don't think that the defense proved their case. I'm going to go and I'm going to see what else I can find. You print it out. You bring it to the jury room. Hey guys, guess what? They didn't talk about this. Well, I mean, think of that. The reason this is judges spend a lot of time at the beginning of trials deciding what evidence is and is not admissible.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Nothing Is Normal Now With Kurt Schlichter
"Joining us now is Kurt schlichter, love having Kurt on the program Kurt, lots to talk about. Let's start with your latest piece. I think it's really smart. Do not fall for the normalcy presumption, nothing is normal anymore. What do you mean by that Kurt? Well, great to be here, Charlie. My new town hall piece basically argues that the left uses the idea that everything is normal, that the institutions are functioning. That everything works at, for example, we have a justice system that's not a biased machine designed to free criminals and persecute the political opponents of the regime. And you know, a lot of these sucker squish Republicans fall for it. You know, when you hear them say, well, we need to hear what the jury has to say. No, no, we don't. Because when you take a key component out of a system, it breaks the system. The system changed. What Soros did by going in and buying the district attorney offices in a bunch of counties across the United States, what he did is he took a position that had a lot of leeway. A lot of discretion because where it was a Republican or a Democrat, they usually just prosecuted criminals. But now they abuse that discretion. So you see people using self defense like Daniel Perry in Texas or the family attacked on their at their own home in Missouri. And suddenly they're being prosecuted for self defense. Well, actual criminals are going free. And of course, two words Alvin Bragg.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Jack Posobiec Explains the Case of Daniel Perry
"What is the story with Daniel Perry, who is Daniel Perry and why is this catching the media's attention? What Charlie Daniel Perry is another one of the individuals who like Kyle rittenhouse was involved in these riots of 2020, which engulfed the nation pretty much every single major city saw these now while Kyle rittenhouse was in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and was forced to use an AR-15 to defend himself against a violent mob. This was a situation where an individual, a boogaloo boy, who was watching with the BLM writers. Now, Google, they're an anti government organization that are also pro BLM. So the media will tell you that Googlers are all far right. But the pro BLM side and the complete anti government anti police side doesn't necessarily make them fit one of the boxes just nicely. So this guy's marching with the BLM rioters, Daniel Perry is a serving U.S. sergeant in the U.S. Army. And his car is driving Uber on the side trying to make a few extra bucks. His car gets surrounded by these guys and this individual Garrett foster had been carrying an actually slung around two point slang of an AK-47 approaches approaches Perry's car at the low ready. Perry claims that the barrel started to move up. He then withdrew his sidearm, fired 5 shots and shot and killed foster and then drove away in his car. Foster this foster was killed. Harry later claimed self defense spoke with police officers claiming self defense and actually said to them at one point. He said to them one point this phrase, I wasn't going to give him a chance to aim the rifle at me, which was later used to go to the jury by this Soros prosecutor. It's great example folks of why you shouldn't talk to the police without a lawyer because they used that statement in court to say that foster wasn't presenting a threat, even though he marched up to him with a mob of people surrounded his car and had an AK-47 within inches of his face. I mean,
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"perry" Discussed on Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"Mean for you personally while it was awesome. That was an awesome experience period of you know. Obviously we had a lot of fun. And i'm so glad you already shows but you know it was. It was more than just going from hockey to figure skating for me. I lost the love of my love of the game. I lost my love of of competing in one of the biggest shames gilts than i had in my life was Not giving myself best opportunity. I could perform in my. Nhl career never lifted a weight. I mean i just you know everything that went on in my life. I it so this gave me a chance to prepare for and you know and go out at a one hundred percent and i just i never in my life ever leave their thought that i would have a chance to to do this to do. And that's what it was. It was fun because you know what people wanted to talk. Nhl hockey the shell sheldon experience. Because of what happened to me as a kid it just wasn't farm and that's what happens. Is that the love of life is stolen from you and you when you're when you've been hurt by any forms of child abuse disillusioned love of being a child and the farming and that was no different for me so you know that's what battle the blaze was was on. And you know. What am i love being on the ice again and that was a feeling that i haven't really thought since i was twelve so that was you know. Nbn win it. Who would have thought the old guy snuck in there. Take didn't even touch my dole's when i got the call the the strategy getting shaved it all off. You guys pulled it out. We pulled it off Listen you know that hope is a very important word end There's that old saying like always try to leave more hope when you leave a room when you walked into it and you obviously you definitely have provided hope to a lot of people listening. You know about the trauma from sexual abuse. And how you you need to have to rise above that and be a better person and keep going and that's really what you're doing providing hope to a lot of people listening but for you personally and i always pose off with this question to my guests on the on the podcast. What gives you hope you know. It's twenty twenty where the middle of nineteen pandemic Twenty twenty one's around the corner. What gives sheldon kennedy. Hope while i think perry you know what here's you. I talk in the both child sexual abuse in the impact of what we can do to be better. You know what i mean to me. I think you know this is this is this is gives me hope these types of conversations and i think you know there has been a major shift in. We've seen and you know this whole week. Free press there's art fairs all you know. There's a six six p. series on on you know connecting the dots on how does scream james operate in our communities rate and. I think it's huge. I think so. You know what i think is me hope. Perry is that not only. Can we talk. We're having a podcast on this but you know. I think that we're seeing people recover. And what gives me. Hope is when when you hear of another person comments through the dark and into the light the and i want an i lick. Let hearing how they did it what they continually do to stay there because these issues we've gotta show people the way out. This is not just vote telling her stories in the dark. This is about finding a way out it so we hear more and more and more and more people you know getting to a good place you know out of those dark places recovering from addiction or being able to get through those child abuse or the you know the impacts of residential school and i think when i see my little guy i see little two and a half year old them. You know. we're going to go through sports. We're gonna go through schools. We're gonna you know. And i see organizations having things in place to address these issues in all and it keeps getting better all the time that gives me. Hope i think you know. And you know. And i think he he he just keeps it simple for me. I think that's what i gotta do. Sometimes get ahead of myself. I think when i could keep bringing bring it back to the basis right to the to the basics you know worse were am. I out with balanced do i have here. Spiritually emotionally physically right and And and mentally aware my app. And i think you know if i can keep that simple harry. There's lots of hope to go forward in the future. Well i think that's a very powerful statement to to close our podcast off on sheldon and to like i said earlier on you. You are a great example of persevere. Don't ever give up. And you've provided a lot of hope for a lot of people across this land and basically throughout the world so thank you so much for what you do and what you've done for Raising a light on a very very serious issue about sexual abuse against children and we always say once you start exposing things to the light of day they're exposed and you can deal with things and Thank you so much for your. For coming onto the academic podcast. Thank you perry. And i just want to close on on say. Thank you to you yawning. Obviously we're friends but more than more than friends. I know what you've done in in your time in office. I just wanna say thank you. You know what you've done you've left Not only for stations people but our country in a better place because your work yours. I hope i was big hearted Supporting you and.
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"perry" Discussed on Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"You know i found myself in a position where you know addition was taken over my life. You know alcohol drug abuse Risky lifestyle all of that stuff and dream of being a hockey player. Left me when. I met a grave. James and i think I didn't know why. I didn't know what was happening to me. Couldn't explain it to anybody because it happened so long ago. You know twenty twenty. While i was fourteen at the time so you know thirty years ago and over thirty years ago you know. We didn't talk about this stuff. So i remember the fear of telling anybody who's gonna believe me because i've been this trouble making kid that you know the drunk and that's the way i visit and so anyway. I remember when. I saw graham when i got traded from the detroit. Red wings to the calgary flames. And i saw graham outside. The locker amuse coaching calvary Diamond and i saw him the young kids. I just need myself. My life was out of control at the time. And i just knew that if i didn't do something a i needed to stop him from hurting other kids and i needed to save my life because i was very suicidal and And my wife was pregnant with her daughter. Ryan at time i would never be the father and the parent and husband that i wanted to be honest. I dealt with this stuff. So that's how i told my story. I didn't think anybody was gonna believe me. And i remember getting to the point where It was in one thousand nine hundred seven. I was canada's newsmaker of the year. And i remember looking at the newspaper. There was terry fox. Rick set recanting of prime ministers and so forth and then i was newsmaker of the year ninety seven. I thought to myself Done anything here. So i'm going to put on a pair of rollerblades rollerblade across the country. And i gotta say perry late probably the thing that kept me going across. This country was all the disclosures in the support. And the people the chemo. Keep going keep going. Thank you show them. And i can tell you that i visited there was communities. And i remember going into col- non-member golan like you. Don't we visited in a communities and first nations communities average communities across this country I remember being drummed in having ceremonies within ranks. I remember people telling us. This rink has not been filled in years and years and years and years at a time when i think we came together not just me personally but it was the first time that i didn't feel alone and i think it was an and that's what i was given when i was welcomed inductees communities but also I think what i gave them was voice Around issues that how they'd been hurt And men not just the women but also the man and i think You know being able to connect the dots around residential school. You know. I think the incidences were different. But one thing that's really stuck with me is. The impact is very consistent. And that's one thing that i will never ever forget that. And that's the most relatable place for conversation is that you know the time the place the person is different. But but how we were hurt can how were impacted. What what we were left with Deliver lives with because of what happened to us was very consistent. I think that was the most commonplace for conversation You know that's i went across the country and we had conversations like that perry night. You know what. I remember. When i i told my story it was not everything. Just didn't go away. I had a. I had a lot of wreckage that had to do with the damage of what happened to me. And i remember. I went to a treatment center. And and i managed to get sober but i was really struggling with spirituality. All the story to you know. And i ran into a friend of mine who worked at the medicine mountain Sandy lake and we went on a four athos out in the area And was a place. Where actually. Because i think when you're abused you lose your ability to trust because you're hurt by somebody that you trust right and that's a big deal. That's a lot bigger than people think. Because how are we supposed to trust in the spirits in crater for somebody that you know you're not trust belief that's about right and so for me. That was a huge part of my recovery. It's still is today because it gave me that. Trust brought in brought the spirits in for me to actually believe that. I'm not alone right now is really important to me. That's a very powerful powerful dialogue sheldon be about trust in healing and keeping going hearing the disclosures. Rollerblading cross canada. I time not feeling alone. And giving first nations people avoid because what you describe experiences that experience a lot of people who the residential schools it was physical abuse mental abuse sexual abuse starvation And now we lift you up for leading like that again. You're the you're the example of optime mc now you're in hockey and that's sports and there's also the abuse of power like you talked about the the trust between the coach and the players and and this goes to any other sports sporting event or activity. You know how. How can we look at breaking the pattern of abuse in. Sports are in any place where there's an imbalance of power involving children and sports itself is yes. There's abuse there but as good sports really part of the answer too. Yeah well. I think you're you're sitting right on. This is not just hockey issue societal issue. I think you're right. It's bound to power. And i think our best defense in what we how we tried to go about. This is to build coffins around of these issues and clarity and an ability to have the conversations to speak in when our guts are telling us Need to be able to follow that. Follow that path and to be able to ask questions in a not. You know but i think right now. We're not sure how asked these questions because we're not really sure if it is or if it isn't in my talk about confidantes irony it's about. We need to be very clear on what's right and what's wrong because a lot of times. Look at these issues all. I can't step in there. I can't step in here. Even though you know i know i know this kid is at risk and no we do need to step in. We need to know how to do that. And it is our job to their children. And i think you know sports if we look at a lot of the most impact i mean the the leading contributor to mental health issues in our country stem from adverse childhood experiences stem from kids being hurt for for suits for long periods of time traumatic experiences which we know offset those kids up to live a certain way all of anxiety into the rest of their lives. How do they manage that anxiety. How do they manage that. You know that easiness within cy. And i think one of.
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"When you can't leave your house and we're locked down. The level of child abuse keeps on often times. There's nobody coming in to check on those kids so they don't have a touch point. Teacher can't see them. Their coach friends parents their friends. So sadly our kids are probably higher risk ten months into this lock down here that sheldon kennedy former national hockey player in his leading advocate for abused over. He's our guest today on the podcast to and welcome to the podcast. I'm your host. Perry bell guard national chief of the assembly of first nations. I is a plains. Cree word for you. All persevere are in other words let's keep going and don't give up on this podcast. We discussed the leading issues facing first nations peoples with top experts with elders and community leaders and our guest. Today is a definition of outcome. Aimal sheldon kennedy played eight years in the national hockey league with detroit red wings. The calgary flames the boston bruins as a teenager. He led the swift current broncos to a memorial cup championship the best team in junior hockey. But it was also we have current. That kennedy was sexually abused for years by his coach. Graham james when kennedy revealed this abuse publicly towards the end of his pro career. Graham james was convicted and sent to prison. He has since been convicted for the abuse of several more players for kennedy. This mark the start of a life dedicated to supporting and speaking out for sexual abuse survivors his leadership including founding child advocacy center in calgary and the respect group saw him being awarded the order of canada sheldon kennedy. Welcome to our podcast. Thank you thanks for having me on okay so sheldon. We're ten months into this kobe. Nineteen lockdown. i'm curious from your perspective. What are you hearing about how this is affecting the levels of child abuse and our ability to help those being abused. Well i i think that I don't think i know that You know the the the level of child abuse has gone up and the level of abusive general whether it's domestic violence or whatever has gone up We know that the majority of child abuse cases happened in the home. Or by somebody that child Knows or is a caregiver. So you know. I think a lot of times. What we know is that kids. Leave the house to go to some place safe and that whether it be your school your recreation facility You know a friend's place that might be safe and when you can't leave your house in we're locked down Those kids don't have those escape so that the level of child abuse keeps going up and up and And a lot of times. There's nobody coming in to check on those kids so they don't have a touch point. Their teacher can't see them. Their coach their their friends parents. Their friends so sadly these issues Are not going down and our our kids are probably a higher risk Ten months into this. This lockdown for sure dc. Any answers to the. what do they. I know the vaccines are coming. You know there's some hope with the vaccines coming to canada. But with the kobe. In the lockdown the numbers are going up. And there's not much I'll call support mechanisms in place for these young children. Do you have any ideas or what what could possibly be done in this pandemic to deal with this. Well i mean you know. I think it goes back to whether we're in covert or not in code levin. The reality is is that you know You know. I mean i guess if we look at the numbers coming out of the the now calgary chill-out see center most child axes centers across the country. I mean just in the calgary region. I know we were. We were averaging two thousand investigations in the most serious nature. A year Not we felt. We were only reaching ten percent of the kids. Fifty percent of those kids of the investigations were happening within the whole and ninety five percent of those investigations were happening from somebody child so our perception of individuals that are criminals. Or the you know. Hurt people that. Are you know lurking around trees wearing Klaas isn't real in these cases. So i think if we look at kovin when it's made us do stay home or you know state to those closest us in a lot of instances of you know when when those kids aren't safe they are stopped and i think you know one of our biggest challenges is really understanding the impact that this that this crime has on our children and the law Long lasting impact. You know we talk about the scars that last a lifetime. I mean they are real and you know. I think that we need to give these issues and the and to be able to understand You know that this is a health now. This is a significant health. Now and you know we look at the you know we look at the the impacts of abuse and the you know how you drives children to addiction to depression to all the mental health issues to anger to shame guilt to you name it. I mean you name it. Rake in a you know it's it's a those are significant issues that we deal with as a country as a community The costs are overbearing. And i think we need to be able to give you know being able to you. I guess you know position resources to be able to understand the reality of the outcomes of of this type of behavior. The air us okay. Well sheldon we've known each other for a number of years now and i earlier on. I've said that you're really a great example. Of what autumn may look really means which is perseverance and never to give up Hobby how have you been able to do that. You know All these years. You know the all the hardships in the the abuses that you suffered how you've been able to endure. Tell our listeners. Hollyman able to deal with that. Well i think harry lake. I went from you know a kid. That was this small town kid on the farm. You know middle middle of right on the border manitoba scotland and just so excited to be able to get an opportunity to go play junior hockey. I meet this individual and You know couldn't margin in my while you know in my dreams of you know what was going to happen and.
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"We did hear of children's bones. Being found in the foundations of buildings. When schools were dismantled. Reheard heard stories of babies being buried. I can barely talk about this myself. We heard of children being thrown into furnaces. I always come back to this and not that. It's right for anyone but these were children. These were children the little ones who woken up this week. Income research children calling out to all of. That's murray wilson former commissioner on the truth and reconciliation commission. She's our guest today on the alchemy. Mcleod guests said to wild. Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host. Perry bell guard national chief december. First nations amok is a plains. Cree word for you. All persevere are other words let's keep going and don't give up on this podcast. We discussed leading issues facing first nations. Peoples top experts with elders and community leaders. And today we're discussing the recent shocking and heartbreaking discovery of the gravesites of two hundred and fifteen children. They were found. On the site of the former kamloops indian residential school at the kamloops up mc first nation in british columbia it is shocking but not surprising for the thousands of first nations people who survived the genocide residential schools are for those who followed the investigation of the truth and reconciliation commission into the residential schools. And the report that came out in two thousand fifteen. Its final report detail. The deaths of thousands of children at residential schools and rightly predicted that. There were still many more. Who's desks weren't accounted for today. We're very grateful to be joined from yellowknife in the northwest territories. Marie wilson. She was one of the three commissioners of truth and reconciliation commission. So marie big. Welcome to our podcast. Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here to summary. What was your reaction last week. When you first heard about the discovery of the gravesite at kamloops you know. I received this news early in the morning. Just as i was waking and my first physical reaction was just immediately to well up with tears and to sort of sit up and try to take it all in I immediately went as they prepared for my own morning rituals. And i and i'm just radley at her. I picked up my. She'd go which was conveyed to me with a particular responsibility by the women of she sacerby when we held hearings there back in two thousand thirteen and as the one female commissioner. The mother of the group i was Given the responsibility in the direction to do all that we could to make sure that the little children were freed and that they were never forgotton and that they knew that we would not stop looking for them and so I held them in that way In my in my arms and my next thought as i think any human being in this country would have been west to think of my own children and my own grandchildren And to hold them close in my thought but i immediately transported myself to the the heartbreak That had to be resounding In in the whole area of kamloops. Because i remember my very first community event ask commissioner. It was before the three commissioners were even functioning as a team actually It was in the first weeks. August of two thousand nine. The gathering that i went to wasn't kamloops. Remember being invited to tour the school and beyond the grounds and i remembered clearly and it came surging back to me deep in my gut. The feeling that i had at that time the credible heaviness that i had there and the weight of that gathering and at the same time The embrace of the determination that was expressed by the people who had prepared that event with so much love and care and and hope that we would be able to start shedding light on all of this history so it was a barrage of feelings on all those levels as human being as a mother as a grandmother as a commissioner and as one in this country who joins the in the morning and the outpouring of grief on and the expectation that we can and must do much better. Yeah the the sad part was that are survivors of the resentful school. Set for many many years that there was a lot of death and a lot of children missing and not accounted for the schools. The sad part was that nobody believes them. Nobody believes survivors. And so now. Here's a horrific evidence and all all week as i've been invited to to comment on this. It's one of the things that i've said. Is you know. I reject the word discovery. It is a validation. It is a validation of what we have been told over and over and over again what we wrote about in detail what we articulated particularly and specifically in our calls to action seventy to seventy five And what we heard from our very first national event when there was a minister of the then conservative government sitting in circle with a former chief saying their hope for us is that they would we would be able to find their missing relative. The issue of missing children was raised from the very earliest days and has been available as information to anyone paying attention to our work to anyone listening to survivors and sitting in whatever stripe of government. Because i being permission has been available to us all. Thank you for that Validation in terms of the survivors in discovery really isn't the right word. The validation of words validation of testimony. The validation of statements by survivors is very powerful with this horrific evidence. That was found that based on your work as a commissioner of the truth and reconciliation commission What are your thoughts regarding the unmarked graves. Think still exists out there. And i know there was documented of forty one hundred deaths. I believe at the schools Can you shed any more light about the who were when. Why are some of the statistics or numbers Some of the issues that you thought.
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"Good learning experience for us. And i remember how people it wasn't just a speaking of the language but it was the way in which people conducted decision making it encouraged people to go back to the traditional system of making of gathering information in making decisions very unique most of of doing that and that was when i noticed that our language was most spoken in our community during funerals in our ceremonies and those kinds of things in so we started to try to find ways to bring the language back to life in all different domains so for example we still did lots of fishing you know during the fishing season and we brought to young people to the fish camp and and we tried to make it appointed. Everybody used eat. Wet it at the fish camp. It was to to make our language part of life again because as you say. The residential schools and schools themselves have done that to our language and not just residential schools but day schools and public schools and in working with the language than in at the community level. You have to work. In many different contexts so schools schools are really key and important. You know the language immersion are really critical. You know when we think about public schools in british columbia for example in a seventy seven there are seventy seven thousand students. Sixty nine thousand of those students don't reside on reserve. They come from all across the province across the country and they have no access to their language. None right now and that insist schools you know have a role and they can do something and you know and then working with The universities right now at a university and university. In canada north america there is no place for first nations languages languages. Yes you know. We can do work with linguistics. We can work with second language but there isn't a place for indigenous language revitalization or for working with indigenous languages. And so that has to change and so in the change that the act will bring. That's one you know. That's it's the change in institutions the habits of institution institutions and the policies within institutions and within the governance systems that govern those institutions that have to change and so we have to work with those with our languages and you know in british columbia. You mentioned first people's culture council. I was the chair of that council for six years. have been involved with it and that's organization has been extremely important in the development of our languages. Why there are a number of things one is that it's a crown agency. So it's funded by the provincial government and that gives a strong message about the importance of our languages here in british columbia the indigenous languages you know at the beginning it was set out that it was supposed to generate its own funding. That's how it started out. And i remember you know the people in that organization trying to generate funds. You know the nonprofit societies the foundations and the the group said give money would not even think about supporting first nations languages. They thought it was a lost cause. Not in a still do. And so. that's the state in so in order to obey able to do the work you have to have like a stable funding scheme. The other thing is that when first people provides resources funding resources alon with those funding resources comes human resources the expertise to support the communities at where they're at. It's not somebody Pie somebody away saying this is what you need to do. It's the community in partnership with no organization that work together and the other thing that first people's did was it created ways in which communities could protect their documentation because this is something that is a real concern and that is that right now communities can lose control of their data. and there's nobody that's helping them to support them to protect their data. So that's a whole other piece protecting their documentation their intellectual property. So it's not taken control and over from universities or academic institutional media. You mentioned the media as well. Yeah you made. Multifaceted approaches to revitalization languages working at the community not only on reserve but officer so the role of the provincial governments. You talked about as well being very vital to supporting language. Revitalization provincial schools. We can deal with our school systems under first nations control of indian education. They used to talk about that but the provincial schools because half of our students do like a lot of large numbers live off reserve in provincial school. So how do they get access to language violation academia and universities. Where is there a place for indigenous language so this multifaceted approach has to go at all levels in order to really focus on this and that's a strong message going forward and government listening. They got to respond. Because even now there is a language Symposium department of canadian heritage is having a language symposium starting january twenty five. What are your thoughts about that language symposium. Now it's linked to see ninety-one the language act but what are your thoughts on some hopes and ideas and thoughts how to make that language symposium successful for first nations people.
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"Perry that are heading to more incarceration longer prison sentences and everything else while every other group including other groups of color heading down. So i put it in our hands so that we can make the system work for our people's One of the things. I used to always say in your comments like a first nations. People were first nations people being treated like second class citizens living in third world conditions. That's right and so bring about change. And so even when the justice system. And you're a lawyer so you know about common law and the law. How would you see. We're going to look at restorative justice incorporating first nations law natural into that system as well if we're gonna talk about justice reconciliation. Well it's already supposed to be this. These are commitments. That had already been made and they're just not being followed through on a judge's already are supposed to be considering all alternatives to incarceration in terms of sentencing for indigenous peoples. And they don't do it. i mean they. It has not happened even though they're supposed to. And you know. I had the privilege and i deliberately chose to study law at the university of ottawa. Because we did talk about not just civil law and common law but also indigenous law and we looked at criminal law through that lens and so a gain all this left. I've sound like a broken record at this. Point is to bring the p the leaders with the knowledge about how to integrate those an implemented and enforce them into those systems. Because it's not working any other way and frankly there's so much leadership in the indigenous community. Why why would we need any agent. Any intermediaries anyway You know put those people in the positions where they can They can make the changes that are necessary. It's so complex even when you start talking about restorative justice and and it's basically comes down to recognition as a as another set of laws in addition to comment on civil law. And then you start looking at tribal courts and then our own pleased in our own laws and hauer. They enforced in one of the things that was talked about was policing as an essential service. And that's one of the things we're pushing for and that was contained in the throne speech because right now in canada. There's only a program. It's the first stations policing program. It's a program and it's forty eight percent picked up by the provinces and fifty two percent by the federal government. But because of all the things that are happening we saw what happened with the rookie mountain police in the in the violent. Take of and adam and alberto at all the deaths from from from coming into mental wellness checks. People are dying so there's a whole push now and so there is movement towards pleasing as essential service. What are your thoughts on that moving forward as an in terms of twenty twenty and beyond while i will take my instruction. That's something else that i said. In the speech. I think freshman english but i take instruction on those issues from the leadership such as yourself. I can say in terms of the black community. What we want to see is the is the police getting out of anything that is related to to the essential basic security. Because what has happened in our communities is that policing has just expanded almost exponentially so that is the social service agency. The mental health service agency. They're all kinds of interactions with the police. That should not be having with the community. They shouldn't be the first people on the scene and people are dying. You know mostly indigenous and black people are dying because of you know those failures so we want to see a a a reduction in those kind of services and a focus on the things that only they can do and the money and the resources of that are freed up being used to create the new services new mental health response services new community services that.
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"The stop seen climate is something that's negative. We don't take action. We already know what it's going to be like an i talked to first nations. They're seeing the impacts. It's everything from floods and communities to droughts to forest fires. All of these are huge impact but the opportunity is huge to have cleaner air cleaner water value. What is important in life and also economic opportunity and jobs that's captain mckenna the federal minister of infrastructure and community. She's our guest today. On the alchemist. Podcasts dance to wow and welcome to the oklahoma clod cast. I'm.
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"It's why i was so disappointed to see the frontier project. stopped in alberta. Because they didn't think tech didn't think they could get it by an ideological trudeau. Cabinet techs first order of business. Going back to two thousand and eight. I'm sure you know this. Chief was engaging indigenous communities and there were i think fourteen benefit agreements developed over that decade plus of of engagement and what canadian companies are now leaders in is not just the the application approvals for exploration or development there's actual partnerships now being developed as a result of our supreme court jurisprudence going back Thirty years where companies that want to have success partner very early and tech did that with the frontier project. I want to see more of that. Because i think the earlier you engage with indigenous partners As you said those sorts titleholders those land owners guardian owners of the land. The more you're going to have success for the project in the long-term last week aaron we had Prime minister mulroney on and He had some interesting comments. I'm gonna. I'm gonna share two points and i want to get your thoughts and views and what he shared because in canada He made two very important points that the royal commission on average people. The art cap recommendations is a road map for reconciliation candidate. If all those recommendations were implemented. I wanna get your your points on on on our gap and as well. He made a statement. That rather than put your smartest brightest most effective efficient person into finance treasury board our global affairs nice affairs. I think that going forward. The prime minister elected in the near future should look at his very best talent and rather put him or her in finance. Should put him in charge of indigenous affairs. So what are your thoughts. Views on our gap in terms of implementation and on that whole point about having the most effective minister enlargement digit services. Canada and our relations. Well that's great suggestions. I have great respect for prime minister. Mulroney and i think there's a lot to learn from our cap. In fact chief. You might be shocked to know a few years ago. When i started researching things related to the missing and murdered indigenous women's inquiry and the push to that when we were in the tailing the harper government I was the first to ask for substantial research to be done on our cap in ten years. According to what the library had said. I'm a research guy. I get into the nitty gritty. And what what bothers me. Quite frankly about are both parties going back. Fifty years is each government comes in and creates kind of a commission mentality rather than an action mentality. And i'll i'll say going back to trudeau and crocetta with the white paper and citizens plus then you had Maruni with With meat and then ultimately charlottetown the charlottetown portion having more indigenous engagement. then of course the original meech round. Then there was the royal commission on aboriginal peoples. The truth and reconciliation commission missing emergent indigenous. Women's inquiry you know some of the underlying issues in my w were brought up in our cap ward. It's enough enough of the talk. Let's get some action done. And that's why. I've said. I view drinking water on reserve as a human rights and it will be a priority that that i'm willing to do anything to make that human right a reality. I think there's been some progress made in the last few years. But i'm willing to see leadership from all sectors including indigenous leadership the private sector have solutions..
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"I came third at. I had a great set of policies in that And they were developed in consultation with some. I need nation's leaders and I'm very excited about implementing them all right in your platform. You talk about a national resource revenue sharing summit. You also talked about employing a national news procurement policy which is always huge and part of that those also having access to capital in dealing with the bonding issue and then pose cova. Nineteen you in terms of developing an economic recovery plan how you see first nations fitting into an economic recovery plan and even the sense of. There's this theme now called building back better or trying to find the balance between the environment and the economy. What are your thoughts on. Some of those statements going forward. I great question. You know look. Canada is the best resource producer in the world. If you look it. What's called environmental social governance. I know you're familiar with this. Es g frameworks to sort of say are you looking at the environmental impact and mitigating against that social impact in including benefit agreements and participation from indigenous groups both directly impacted or supporting a large project in this overall governance theme rule of law human rights records. I think canadian resource producers whether they're oiling gas whether forestry mining minerals we are world leaders in the s g and in fact the duty to consult and engage with indigenous peoples developed now. For over a generation supreme court Jurisprudence has us at the forefront of making sure that resource development is done responsibly. You mitigate the impacts on the environment but also maximize the benefit for for indigenous communities and and direct stakeholders in a project. So this is where i think. The relaunch of the economy is key. And where i think. Igniting the indigenous economy and leadership is central. I i really do think. The justin trudeau has left. Canada more divided and less prosperous after four years of prime minister. Many of the ideological moves. He made actually hurt indigenous canadians. More then Other canadians if you look at the cancellation unilaterally of northern gateway pipeline for example. That was that was owned equity owned to a one third level by indigenous communities. No consultation with them on the cancellation of the project. I view that as a violation of the duty to consult. I've spoken to two chiefs like dell swampy and others about the tremendous loss potential that these projects have so i think as we position canada as a global..
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"And i knew the judgement wasn't right so i did appeal and then i won the appeal court. How many years did it take from. Start to finish starting your first lawsuit and then to your victory on your second one. How many years did that take Well two thousand and ten was as we talked about. And then i think the trial was in two thousand seventeen and then the film You know came out and at the end of the first cut of the film. It says i lost which is where things were at when the film came out. But then i went to the appeal court in one so a new cut of the film was released. That says in a groundbreaking decision the appeal court. Overturned the initial ruling in what year was at two thousand eighteen almost like almost like a thirteen fourteen year journey. Because you bought the painting in two thousand and five and then at twenty ten at the art show you pulled it down so then from twenty ten until twenty eighteen proximate. Yep you know eight year journey almost. Yeah and there's there's more perry know the the film was the catalyst for reopened investigation by the police and It's not the end of the story. Tell us more about that. Sure i was on tour. And i got a call from a detective and thunder bay and he told me that he'd heard about the movie and he needed to see it and so i had a copy of the film sent to him and shortly thereafter. They opened a an investigation into the whole fraud. Situation and I have been working with the police whenever they need me to and They can't tell me everything but there has been a lot of progress made. They've they've interviewed a lot of people and You can expect to hear more so what we've learned an i. I've watched a documentary and there are no fakes. And what you learned is that Yeah the fix nor the nora morsel. Fakes the original ones. Don't have the signature on the back you know. They don't have that signature on the back and correct the drawing of the thunderbird on the back. They don't have that on the back. The original ones they. The original no remorse does have the the celebrex right on the front which refer yawn the front in that refers to his name. Copper thunderbird correct so so anything with on the back. Red flags automatically come up. That comes out pretty clear in the in the documentary. Yeah and i think one of the the hopes for this Investigation and all of this is that we will eventually sort of clear some of this muddiness and really bring back nor vows legacy and protect it because he is such an important and great artist. Well that's really what it's all about. You know guys like in a closing line the documentary you just said i just wanted to buy a painting and because novell more so is one of our heroes. He was so gifted and so talented. So spiritual So where does this story. Now stand in terms of investigations and the legacy of nora more so from your perspective. Can you make some comments on that. Sure well where there is the art perspective. But there's also the The social perspective you know when we learn of news as we learned you know in the last few weeks about residential schools And they're what they're finding and when you look at what we looked at in the film where there's there's young men who are leaving their communities just to further their education and they're being preyed upon there's A real connection and it really illuminates that. These problems continue and man and in different ways and so i think as we all try to work towards Truth and reconciliation and that's hard work and it's going to take a long time and commitment that all of these stories are important and they need to be heard as difficult as they are and that is my hope that that continues and that friendships and teamwork that i felt with You know dallas thompson and and other indigenous friends that i made along the way can act as an example and and can continue in other ways. Well kevin you're gifted musician in an artist and songwriter. And i know my partner valerie. And i went up to old crow. Von tech witching territory for new years. And i realized there was a collaboration. Between you in val on a song you guys were writing. And what are your thoughts on the collaboration there before we get to the issue in question on hope can you. Can you share about the song that you're you're you're writing with vowel. She wrote the lyrics. It's a it's called feet like feathers and it's a beautiful poetic lyrics. we have done A little demo of it but it needs a bridge. And i've been waiting for the bridge for about a year okay. Well that's a work in progress listener. That's work in progress. So you guys can continue working on the bridge together. Moving from that. One kevin. I want to. I always ask my guests on the podcast because this is such a tremendous story you know and you're you indeed our hero to dallas as a hero. The documentary carman's a hero for having the strength and the courage to come forward with their truth in their story about this fraud. Ring regarding the fake morrisseau paintings. But you're you're you're a hero for standing up and not giving up to seek the truth because it's the spiritual truth in that way too and now in canada with residential schools in atlanta covert nineteen in all the challenges. We have in canada. What gives you hope what gives me hope while perry Bruce cockburn has a song called lovers in a dangerous time. And there's a lyric in that song. That was my motto through this whole story and it is. You've got to keep kicking the darkness until it bleeds daylight and i think with all the conversations happening and people standing up for each other more and more in our communities. I think that's what we're doing as individuals and together. We're kicking the darkness till it bleeds daylight. We just gotta keep doing it. And that gives me hope. And that's a very powerful message to end our dialogue on. Kevin kevin hearn. Thank you so much for your leadership and your commitment to seek truth and justice regarding the the fake fraud ring of the northern. Marceau's your strong leader in so many regards and a gifted artist. Thank you so much for. Coming on our podcast. Thanks and i wanna thank all the people listening to the podcast. If you enjoyed it these subscribe so you don't miss future episodes. Give us a rating and tell your friends about us on social media after a break over the summer we'll be back with new episodes in the fall. Look forward to continuing these conversations with you when we get back. The optimum of podcast is produced by david macguffin of explore podcast productions and our theme music is provided by the red dog singers treaty. Four territory southern saskatchewan until next time on period belt art..
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
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"Place within them. If we choose to connor rula was a key part of canada's gold medal team at the under eighteen world hockey championships early. This me in texas connor grew up in winnipeg's north end in his a member of the mri poi stick creation and treaty. Five territory manitoba. The eighteen year old roulette got five points and seven games at the tournament. Earning him a lot of praise and the possibility that he could go in the first round of the next national hockey league draft. I look at where i am right. Now you know how far i've made it just from being a young kid and having all these these genes these hopes and you know i always also look at just the support hap- hap- had growing up. You know. I can just talk all day about support i've had with my my My older brother my parents my grandparents and you know they just really great people. That helped me so far and i think for me. That's that gives me a lot of hope. There's so much things that come with that They're they're always sri me on. They're always they always got smiles. Whenever i do something good. And they've always smiles on. If something bad happens they're just always you know they're always lifting me up and they're always pushing me forward For me that's that's you know that's best. Hold anyone i think and as for is when you have that support you have all that that positive energy coming from such happy people and you know for me. That's to be staying home. The love in the support. I get from my family and friends just keeps pushing me going. Keeps me going and That that gives me so much. Hope cadmus delorme. He's chief and a proud member of the couches. First nation where those seven hundred fifty one unmarked graves were found at the former. Mary valid indian residential school. I bring hope as i look at kids today in. I'm like okay. The past we cannot change. The president is where we're at. I will focus on the future. I will show this world that someone with a brain. That has a cheeky crease. Mile in the while in control. It's a really good res- jokes can walk into any room in this world and not change my attitude of who i am from the reserve from a first nation and they will still accept me as i am because i. I don't want the next generation to have to try prove themselves. I want them to be dreamer. So i'm inspired for the future because my parents built me to be who i am today and as a chief it i think it's the greatest job in the world. It's not an easy job. But i i want to make sure that we have more dreamers moving forward and that that is what motivates me every day. You might know. Tom jackson from his acting roles and big budget. Hollywood films like twenty nine hundred cold pursuit with liam niessen are from the net flicks shows like outlander are. Cbs's north of sixty. You've also likely heard. His best. Selling country albums are no him from his years of social activism in the fight against poverty that i have been fortunate enough to be surrounded by a dream. That dream is a manifestation of the team. The people alive over the course of my lifetime. Come to know. Mutual value mutual respect having the ability to make a decision knowing that that decision is the right decision versus the wrong decision. And you're on that team. There's no escape. You're part of my teams. I should've said this earlier. Let me just tell you this. Harry look at me look at me i i got you love you. Let me tell you why because you saved my life..
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"perry" Discussed on Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"What gives me hope. Dr dan longboat founding director of the indigenous environmental science studies program at trent university and the current director of quality assurance at the indigenous advanced education. Skills council our knowledge came out of creation came out of the spirit world. And that's our engagement with the swiss spirit that then has provided for us all the things necessary for us to be able to to survive until eleven to flourish as human beings to live a full beautiful life. I loved the way you know. You're people talk about that as swamp minnow.
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"perry" Discussed on Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"In you realize that intergenerational trauma it it's embedded i looked to the hard work ahead of us addressing the real impact of intergenerational trauma the loss of control in social life the loss of control in spirituality or religion the loss of control in our health in our language. You know when we're doing the gravesites rejuvenation rate now. I'm lake three steps ahead. Thinking our children in our children yet on borne intergenerational trauma is still happening hud we change it to intergenerational transfer to make sure that that vertical value lineage is giving stronger from grandma to mum to daughter granddaughter. And you know the gravesite is is really tough right now. But you know. I'm already thinking hotter. We use this momentum this moment to change to intergenerational transfer to make sure that as chief dan george said in elementary confederation that we can be the greatest nation that we can be within a hundred years. You know so no i. I drive on that as my motivation to to get through this moment focusing on the great site chief cabinets the There's two things in canada. They've always maintained that have really hurt. First nations people In a in a big way and we still feel the intergenerational trauma effects of these things and The first thing of course is the residential school policy in which i say was a genocide because little children are put into these institutions. Everything good about being a first nations is no good. You're beautiful long hair is cut. Your language was forbidden. Your cut off from your family your community yourself your nation and everything good about like even yourself is no good you know this was taught and then physical abuse mental abuse sexual abuse and we see the intergenerational trauma reflected in the forty thousand children in foster care the jails are disproportionate of our people in jails in high youth. Suicide rates list goes on and on and the other thing was the indian act eighteen. Seventy six indian act you know which allowed the control of first nations people. We couldn't leave the reserve without a permit. Didn't have access to a lawyer with till nineteen fifty. One didn't even vote couldn't vote in federal elections till nineteen sixty one and it broke down are hereditary chiefs inter-clan systems and outlawed sundance pot. Let all these between those two things. The the residential school system in the indian act in that internet basically allowed for the exploitation of our land and territory and resources so people need to understand that those are the two things now going forward in spite of all those things are resilient should be celebrated but i always ask our guest as well. What provides you hope. National feminine approach is kind of in a personal matter of my journey so far. Might my dad made that My biggest inspiration him in my mom and my dad used to have this. This nail beside our door used to put our house key on it than one time on ten. I seen them put the house key on this nail in put a sweater over it in after he opened the door. And i'm like dad. Why do you put the key there. Someone's going to break in. He says you know my boy. We don't walk with our head up around here. And i'm like what you mean bad like i could see it there. You know in you know just just what inspires me is. My dad pushed me and pushed me and pushed me my entire life to show this world. That indian can succeed at a white man's way if that's education if it's golf in on my mom a few years ago i took her to bertel. That's where she went to residential school and she didn't want to go but deep down. I knew she did. She needed closure. She told me her residential school in no the stories that she she told me oven. You know from from that tour. I i realized that my mom is my my warrior nece world on on how she raised me and you know realizing what what kind of life she actually had to go through any. I'm optimistic of the future. No i got a call. Last week from phil fontaine and unifil was the first one to really go public in the nineties about residential school. In you know he told me you speak for me. You keep speaking. And i'm like holy cow like this is so inspiring. Like thank you fill in. You know. I i you know i. I bring hope as i look at kids today in. I'm like okay. The past we cannot change. The present is where we're at. I will focus on the future. I will show this world that someone with a brain. That has a cheeky crease. Smile onto the while in control. It's a really good res- jokes can walk into any room in this world and not change my attitude of who i am from the meserve from a first nation and they will still accept me as i am because i. I don't want the next generation to have to try prove themselves. I want them to be dreamer. So you know. I'm inspired for the future. Because my parents built me to be who i am today and as a chief it i think it's the greatest job in the world. It's not an easy job. But i want to make sure that we have more dreamers moving forward and that that is what motivates me every day chief cabinets. That's a very powerful message to to to close are coming podcast on. Thank you so much for your leadership. Thank you so much for what you do for your community. First nation that causses but for all of our people across canada. Thank you so much again for coming on now. Thank you. And i wanna thank all the people listening to the off gas. If you enjoyed. It subscribes he. Don't miss future episodes. Give us a rating and tell your friends about us on social media and as always want to give a big shout out to the red dog singers the treaty four territory in southern saskatchewan for providing our theme music until next time. I'm perry bell guard national chief of the assembly of first nations..
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
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"At the site of a former residential school cranbrook. This follow the fine of two hundred and fifteen children's graves at the site of the kamloops indian residential school in saskatchewan seven hundred fifty one unmarked graves were found at the former maryvale indian residential school operated from eighteen. Ninety eight to nineteen ninety-six. All three schools were run by the catholic church with an aim wiping out indigenous language and culture. These gravesites our validations of survivor accounts of the brutal physical mental and sexual abuse experienced by tens of thousands of indigenous children in residential schools over many generations. And today we are grateful and thankful to be joined by cadmus delore chief in a proud member of the causses. First nation. Where those seven hundred fifty unmarked graves. Where found chief cadmus. Welcome to all to our alabama podcast. Thank you so chief. What was your reaction when you started discovering those graves and the numbers. They seems kept growing and growing and growing. What was your. What was your initial reaction. Before i explain. I just wanted to mention that there is a one eight six six number for anybody listening. That may be triggered. This is important to all of us but at the same time our street so so please reach out. We're all in this together. Two years ago houses first nation leap in doing this great check rejuvenation for for a few years. Now the planning and we were going to start last year. We always knew these were unmarked graves area. So we partnered with sas poly technic institutions to scotch when because a covert we pause the year and We decided to start june twenty twenty one and a week before we are going to start on the kamloops residential school on cover two hundred fifteen graves and so we like. What are we gonna find. An though you know growing up on cows you hear the oral stories. You know there's unmarked graves there. So wendy technicians came. We bought a pack of two hundred flags just from home depot. Just just your little steel metal with low plastics leg at the end and within the day and a half we use not bar our i pack and we still had many square meters to go so as more flags hit the ground as more as the radar beat than we confirmed that there is a high chance there's a grave here. It discovery emotionally very You know like. I starting at worried right away on. The people are seeing these flags. People would stop by ask. What are those flags and you know. I would tell them in a watching their reaction. I realized they were getting triggered. So where a kid got. Increase our services our support here and so five. My last wednesday. We finished with over seven hundred flags in the ground. And that's when we were like okay. We got to control this. And we gotta tell this story while chief like i knew you grew up on the reserve. So you had an idea where these gravesites were like. Was there something exactly that that spot to to keep researching investigating. This was a roman catholic run grave site and so You know the name it was somewhat. You know me if i can if i can say it like that and you know it started right at where this walking pass started even as a kid. I knew that's where it started. There was oral stories. There's graves on the road. There's graves across the the fence and you know they're roser today in infrastructure today as we grew around that area after residential school time and so we we asked the technicians to check those areas. We didn't have any hits. But we kind of i knew where it started bringing an elder in. We brought it announced that used to work for the old blades in the sixties. And she confirmed this is where it starts and so we started there at our square meters off as one area. We just went down the the walk path. And the when you get closer to the cross or in the seventies that's when the headstones of today are still there but that's when you all the roman catholic church stopped overseeing the gravesite at that kind because that's where our headstones are from our community gravesite that took over in the seventies. Aw so chief again. This was a catholic run Graveyard and there was a catholic church. There in the catholic church implemented noon ran residential school. There there are stories that in ninth in the nineteen sixties at the catholic church. Bulldozer took how many grave markers at maryvale. And we all know that's against the law to remove head markers. Have you heard those stories and do you think. This was an attempt to hide the large numbers of graves. Our children that died in their care. There are many oral stories as to to the removal of the head. Stones and you know survivors are telling me their their their view. And i'm listening in you. Know one view was is that there was a priest named father carrier. He was upset at the way that the gravesite wasn't looking meat. So he removed the headstones. He had his maintenance person. Push the headstones on the north side of the gravesite by the river. There some bears there today. Were actually searching for them right now. Those those buried headstones and a second story was is that Father look only got an argument with one of the leadership of cows is in retaliation removed the head stones so national chief. I'm bored in the eighties but you know as the spokesperson for the causses. First nation as their chief. I am listening but the main thing on this is that the fought. The priest had the authorization to save or remove these headstones and he decided to remove these headstones so you mentioned survivors and their stories in their teachings you know and their experiences Let's talk about like things that's like you've listened to many of them are there is there are any such stories that stick out in your mind as the most impactful are relevant from any of the survivors. You listen to you. Know i I read a lot of mental health books national chief. I feel my locust control on my personal journey is Well set for whatever's in front of me and hearing some of these stories you know just just shakes me to the core on some of the you know why i had one survivor come to the gravesite and and tell me that he actually dug holes and these were his is his while friends. At the time. I i had others common you know. Just just say that you know the years of being an altar boy or you know. The role the females played with with the roman catholic church has little kids. You know their stories are are being shared. You know specifically with me as you know. I want to be a good listener is one that sticks out to me. And if you aren't baptized. The roman catholic church would not allow you to be buried in their gravesite. At that time it was their grave gravesite and a few have come forward and said that. Their baby wasn't baptized and they. They know where they're buried on the outside of the old fence so we asked them to stand where they thought. The baby was in national chief. We found that the spots and To stand in there in watching them like you know shed some tears at noon. It's almost like closure like know in. I know i reference and said listen like we are going to put something here in honor. This like like this is healing. This is getting.
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"perry" Discussed on Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"For those of us who are survivors of the oppression of our languages as part of the cultural and physical genocide rod on us by the church and state that ran residential schools and other institutional ways in which are languages were stigmatized The day that bill. C ninety one digits languages act received. Royal assent was a memorable occasion. That was long overdue. That's commissioner ron. Ignatz he's just been appointed to lead the new federal office of the commissioner of indigenous languages. He's our guest on the podcast. Don sit to while and welcome to the podcast. I'm your host. Perry bell guard national chief of the nba. First nations alchemy. Mc is a cree word for you. All persevere are in other words let's keep going and don't give up on this podcast. We discussed the leading issues facing first nations peoples with top experts with elders and community leaders. And today we are pleased to welcome the first ever federal commissioner of indigenous languages. Ron ignatius is a member of the swept look nation in british columbia and a fluent speaker of schwope maxine. He was elected. Chief escaped us in indian band for more than thirty years. He has a phd anthropology from simon fraser university with a dissertation on swept oral history from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty one. He co chaired the assembly first. Nations chiefs comedian languages where he played an instrumental role in the development and passage a bill. C ninety one the indigenous languages act. Commissioner on agnes a very big. Welcome to our podcast. The way is in doubt. Elia eskan wellness as i can. Duck swayed Open as anna walked Lil elks clem stem. Ten muse. had two hours the full of year is i would like to. I say that. I'm honored and yet humbled to be sitting in front of the national chief who i've held in highest demon high regard for all the good work that you've done and it was an honor to sit with you as a co chair on the national chiefs committee on languages but as i said in my language In so hutton. gene..
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"perry" Discussed on Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
"Scotch when you need them in british columbia so colonization or pressure control. Yeah that's basically the intention. The residential schools colonization pressure control Really breakdown identity family community nations. Self that's it in a nutshell and so these residential schools but there's Also industrial schools so back in my home territory. The regina industrial school was part of that whole system and so these schools these initial designs of these schools I heard a comment and read something recently. That a lot of them didn't include playgrounds but did include graveyard's. What are your thoughts on that statements that is to say at least i vomit and everything schools were wrapped in theory anyways. We're all in of the logic of civilising people. So indians were encouraged at some schools. And this went terribly wrong for the government to play games but only the play games that had rules and regulations. Twelve administrators were encouraged to To introduce hockey and baseball and those like things but don't let them play across. Across his justice. Advocating they run around in each other with. Sticks is pretty much was described so even recreation to the extent that it existed was about ordered that. Why so many schools at hockey teams might woman tools at the brass fans. These interesting because all of those things were purveyors of order and discipline those the two words like you were asked her and the problem with indian parents is that they didn't understand order and discipline the medieval back to that over and over again indian. Parents are too permissive. They don't spank their children. They don't raise them up to be orderly disciplined adults. Wow and that's what you want it you want. I mean the number of times. I've seen statement saying when these kids graduate. We've created this social psychological alchemy. They will no longer be a burden to the state but in a supporter of state. You're going to convert these people as as as reliable osculation john. There's thousands of indigenous first nations. Children died at essential schools. They died from abuse in disease. Neglecting hunger You know the truth and reconciliation center. Manitoba i think documented like within the residential school system that documented deaths were approximately four thousand and There's probably more as evidence from kamloops you know. And so getting the proper research done and the investigations done but to what degree was this planned as part of the whole residential school experience. And why like. We've called it a genocide of our people. What are your thoughts on that. Oh when i was a research director for the truth and reconciliation commission. We had long meetings with senior lawyers at at harvard and ucla on the issue of genocide. Why what was the genocide l. Could you describe what a genocide was. We have the genocide convention thing which people often point to saying while removing children from their parents and educating them outside of their culture is is genocide so sad. Removing removing children forcibly removing children from their families and inflicting harm. Those are the two elements in the un definition of genocide is a third element and that's intention And that's where all of us have tripped up right. Because when you talking about genocide you'd wanna make talking about -struction of culture. We all agree. It was that cultural genocide. What we don't agree on was the extent to which it was genocide. I would be Compared to what went on in in that c- germany or turkey. Or these places where you were actually out to wipe out that route. Whatever was as a physical entity right not just destroy their their social relations but actually kill off all the people if that's the definition of genocide. None of us have ever been able to find it. Certainly it's consequential physical genocide right. Children were moved and put into place residential schools badly funded. They were bad said they were open to the two big killers all which were kilson measles and of course to the other soldiers plane process. Which was it's a process where children were ashamed about their parents about their traditions about the language. Etcetera so forth. This was a real killing off right and whereas we know children were taught in some respects both. Unfortunately to be avis white people. The mimic their own oppressors. So we know that if you're looking for where sexual and physical abuse comes from on first nations reserves for stations communities you can point back to the residential school where children learned that physical violence was a road to power and mimic that sort of behaviour when they got home that that unfortunately resocialization worked with respect to all the nasty stuff right like division communities and empower situations especially women and all that kind of stuff which is the nasty bits of non indigenous cultures to. We had the indianap- as well in eighteen. Seventy six you know where we weren't allowed to leave the reserve without a permit from the indian age until nineteen fifty one and no access to legal counsel to help fight our fights and claims so nineteen fifty either and we couldn't vote in elections to nineteen sixty one and of course he not also broke down. Our systems of governance in imposed a two year elective system on our people so between the residential schools which was a breakdown of identity and self that everything good about being an indian is no good. Your long hair is no good. Your language is no good. Your family's no good in top of that. The starvation in the abuse of always said. You're not healthy when you come out of that system so would you. Was that the intention. If you look at the indian. It's easy enough to talk about social engineering or an attempt to social engineering in the way. But if you look at the indian act even the most horrible innocent sections of you begin to realize pretty quickly that the people who wrote the indians and its amendments need in fact to know anything about it seemed like Because if you look at what that act says it simply takes indian communities any individuals and rewrites them as averaged complains people are both special over plains cree for range. People band membership was a very elastic thing. If perry belgarde family doesn't want to stay in that particular ban got on the horse and they wrote awesome. They joined another band that came along. That was not possible. You will remember of the band that you were born in and if you went across the river and tried to live in that other band you were dressed faster than the rights in that band or into the canadian government so right from the ground floor. That act was an act of social and economic reorganization. so you said white guys in ottawa. Who writing law didn't know a damn thing about indians. What they had no was what making the occurs looked like they were indigenous and you read the act section by section suddenly realize. Ain't oh the seconds right. This is another form of integration and cultural destruction every bit as vicious in terms of its negative impact every bit as destructive as.
Ahkameyimok Podcast with Perry Bellegarde
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"Doing a fast forward of six and a half years of of commission work and so many hours days months of testimony and hearing individual stories is one of the ones that came to mind was a a man in the area who had had a child be injured in residential schools Never came home again and they spent basically the rest of their life in a kind of state of broken in and around. Winnipeg trying to find that missing child so these are human tragedies that were not back then it happened. Gee that's really terrible. These are these are tragedies that happened and that are continuing to play out in the aftermath consequences that are alive and unfortunately still resonating. Throughout every region of the country we still see in fealty intergenerational trauma the residential schools. There's no question about that in our in our communities and our families and our territories Use you started sharing some testimony from some of the things you heard In your in your work as commissioner is there any other testimony that you wanna share that sticks out to you in your mind from your work on the trc from some of the survivors as it relates to the deaths of first nations children residential schools. And you know it's always a fine balance between wanting to force people to look fully and squarely at the most abysmal. Truth of all this and not wanting on the other hand to cause further harm and to traumatize So i think i would say more. Generally that there were days where i would say to myself is there no end to human depravity. Have i not yet heard every possible. Horrible way in which children could have been discarded and there was a. I'll just say an in a not good way. A wide range of diversity but it was. Some of it clearly was intentional. We're i will say. And i think some of this has already published in any case in ways that people can find elsewhere but we did hear of children's bones being found in in the foundations of buildings. When schools were dismantled. We heard stories of children. Babies being born To to clergy in contacts of of forced sexual aggressions and we heard of babies being buried. I can barely talk about this myself. We heard of children in in my part of the country reared children being thrown into furnaces. I mean it's just beyond any imagination of of our of our desire to think of a human decency and i. I always come back to this. Not that it's right for anyone but these were children and these are children. The little ones we up this week in camera. Abc's our children calling out to all of us now. No it's We've often said there isn't schools was genocide of first nations people the their policy of killing the indian in the child And not just first nations. And i know that's the focus for your your cast but we also do know. Of course mateen enumerate were were were affected by all of this as well and so. It's all in the first peoples of canada. It's all of the first people who were deemed to be not good enough by nature of their birthright and tour in the way for the bigger plans for how the country would evolve. And that's the that's the honest truth of it that we have to own up to summary. We've been you know you've done a lot of work in research as a commissioner truth and reconciliation commission and came out with his fantastic report in calls to action ninety four calls to action and we can say there's been some movement about. It's been slow. You know in terms of the implementation of those ninety four calls to action and even this past week with the validation of the two hundred fifteen graves that have been found these young people. These beautiful young children have been found In government announced twenty seven million dollars to help do the research investigation People say is that enough. Why taking so long. What are the challenges. What are the roadblocks. And how can we move this along quicker in your mind. Well i i do acknowledge. Of course that people who are in government at me most people enter into politics with good intentions and in goodwill i think the machinery of government sometimes takes over and the way decisions get made can be very slow and cumbersome but i also think we work in functioning assistant where there is built in Opposition there's built in adversaries at things become politicized and you the apology. That was made thirteen years ago by every single political party in house comments where every single one expressed tremendous regret and commitment to work together going forward That that spirit of collaboration and reconciliation as a non partisan issue that gets lost that gets lost when people slide into partisan stances. That can slow things down. You think about the declaration which was close to a pass under a previous Opportunity in government and and then ended up falling apart along partisan lines and i. I think that we cannot allow ourselves if we truly believe what we're saying about wanting to make things right that we can't allow ourselves to slide into that on these issues so that's one thing the second thing is i i you know i really find myself reflecting a lot About the past year that we've all lived through and the many lessons and many of them valuable from covert experience and one of those. We have proven to ourselves as a country. And in fact we've we've we've proven ourselves to be stellar in this regard to be able to say whatever it costs whatever we have to do to make things right. That's what we're gonna do. Sir was a perfect example of that and it was out the door in two weeks time. It's not to say that there aren't mistakes. Made along the way and that is part of the risk of course but if you feel that something truly is an emergency that it truly is urgent that it truly is an issue that is of fundamental importance to the well being of your country's reputation and the well being of its citizens. Then you do that. And so i think on the money that has been announced. It's the way we do things. We have budget allocations. And we say here's how much money is. I think the bigger question is. Do we have a good sense of. How big is the job. Have we done the work that we need to say. How many Unmarked graves are we talking about. Are we going to those communities where the schools were asking the expert survivors in an urgent manner. Because we are losing their expertise as they leave us and People who have memory of where they were and who was with them and where children may be buried. We need that to be brought forward urgently and not to be So overly cautious that. We're afraid to do anything. i think. Find the children of course be respectful of local communities in the necessary protocols for moving forward but not up stand back and limit ourselves by a bottom line budget item and an a sense that we have an entire political cycle To accomplish some of.