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REShow: Mike Pereira. Hour 3 (10-15-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

43:26 min | 1 year ago

REShow: Mike Pereira. Hour 3 (10-15-19)

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Yahoo is better than ever this year Yahoo daily fantasy recently released a new three hundred thousand dollar NFL baller contests with thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net production available on Apple podcasts and podcast one I get near midseason exciting more effecting final results and Mike will join us what can be done what is happening it's Cetera and so forth he'll be joining us in the middle of the on our number two we talked about doing that broadcast for NFL network as well as the jets beating the Dallas cowboys this game felt more comfortable and it's funny out the booth is very spacious at Tottenham Hotspur where we're going in Wembley in a couple of weeks it's much more tight I mean it's called the Gantry it's a small right now for football college and professional so many people talking about the officiating the state of officiating the NFL that it's never been worse and it's never been more troubling and it's never been it was amazing and then mooch called the the free kick towards the end of the first half he sought coming that hey this is going that if you fair catch a punt or kick at the end of the half you have the right to take a have a free plate from that spot and he called the free kick in small spot and but the like we we know when each other we can finish each other's sentences when everyone wants to talk they get Out in time for me to describe the play I get out in time for them to analyze it and then and then the telestrator in front of Kurt Kurt to my right body gets are now yahoo dot com slash daily fantasy that's yahoo dot com slash daily fantasy when you make your first deposit use Promo Code pod twenty five that's p o d served in the middle of this hour Tyler Lockett joins us in the middle of hour number one Michael Irvin just hung up the phone with him hung out with him in London we did the bucks and Panthers Taleh straight he would have to use his left hand is non writing hand to reach out and tell us straight something so kurt anytime you saw Mooch talk and he has to marry she sees him between me and Mariuchi and herbs to at the answered goes me Kirk Mooch an herb and the booth and so for Mooch the guy that Mooch was highlighting on the defense or I use one hundred percent right every time what Mooch was going to say on the telestrator going Kirk was the one doing the telestrator he knew exactly what they wanted without communicating it's the coach quarterback takes forever ball out again lose it and then tie time out time out Tampa burning their timeouts but McCaffrey from Stanford runs out of bounds to stop the to over in London for you during the play by play was it how did you find it as compared to the first go around last year I mean that was the first time I've ever done it so this time I felt more comfortable and the four of us hit and then after the two minute warning pump fakes on on a on a screen that gets blown up balls out they recover it next play you couldn't see comment I loved it I I would do that as much as I can. It's so much fun being at a game eight four four two zero four rich number to dial talk for Tampa that gives Tampa another shot which wound up being beneficial to Carolina 'cause they got a free kick it was so bizarre the last two minutes is at one point you know he's like you know all the Brits are confused and I'm like the Americans convinced never seen that before had enough leg to just missed a wide right he missed it wide on the air phone lines are live we're GonNa take your calls in an hot minute Mike Pereira is GonNa call our show in the middle of this hour the former head of NFL refs and Fox rules analysts five for twenty five dollars in free play that's Pod twenty-five Promo Code for twenty five dollars in free play our number three of the rich Eisen show is the producer and director and everybody they're so amazing the whole crew's been great ray so thank you I love to see on Thursday nights sometimes Nah where a lot of hats by wish you would do a lot more games you know what I appreciate it it's it's a long way to go to but you know the crew that doesn't it's a Fox crew team and scope title a sixty yards air filter fuel goal with no rush hours after I mean the two minute communication really mental communication system that they have together Kirkwood draw a circle the guy that was talking about he do the route and he'd also Sir I saw this whole exchange of people saying that I was being biased against the panthers so I screen grabbed it Senate Joe Buck saying now in a high feel well I mean that's Joe Buck territory right now so but it's funny job thanks for the call right now and it's funny at at one point I did look at my twitter feed during halftime other appreciate it hey man I didn't get up in time to watch game on a get recorded and I gotta tell you you guys in the booth are one of the best I can yesterday on w. e. e. i Tom Brady said he's not going to be the guy who lobbies for Gronk to come back he's happy that he's enjoying his life and doing what he gronk a show up on Thursday night football last week as a fox analyst had a lot of fun her Robert Kraft said that he can hope and pray the GRONK comes back the brand lawrence you're Scottish and that's crap the sporty civic coupe and the spacious civic hatchback there's something for every style so hadn't your local Honda dealer and find the civic for you today Chris what you have all right Mike we'll start this one for you so we delman and they can have James White back there too so chip him on the way to Brady and they need they need them and certainly if there's an injury that's uperior talents Lawrence for all of us this is up there that have been pounding the table for years using our hard wants to do this morning Rob Gronkowski was on the Greg Hill show on w. ee I and this happened when I retired I retired for reasons because I knew the stuff earned reputational capital in this business to pound the table that kickers and punters are people to you are damaging come on the tank for two of stuff is I told you this it's not an players it's on a front office some point they're going to face a defense that locks down certain members of their offense and zeroes in on Tom Brady and Brady's GonNa need to go to guy and everybody knows that guys Julian the last remaining undefeated team in league and they were one two point conversion away from beating the Redskins and making Matt Prophecy come true fifteenth good write that down and Tober tags save the hats do they need them do they need them in your we'll catching passes and with our first our guest Tyler Lockett and decay met Catholics great bears news here Schefter saying and the bears announced a paid also do oh sure did you yeah I told you the record has nothing to do with it it's the offensive efficiency they know they understand at some point in the NFL no way no how I'd take him in the fifth to seventh round as a backup at best great kid but he is all hype on a superior team or and Poor Josh Rosen good Lord I don't even know what to make of going on there yeah poor Josh Rosen all right let's go a little baseball we got two games today we got Yankees Astros game moving all of the ammunition for the players and the coaching staff right right had it I had my fourth down take a couple of weeks ago grabbing the hot take plank that the dolphins Ronda Brockman with federal live or come in with the new altuve other twenty twenty Honda Civic Lineup the Always Fund civic sedan the three at one o'clock Pacific for four o'clock eastern and we got nationals cardinals game for that could be over tonight but gotta warns times former giants Kicker This this is up there for worst worst take he said the tank for two thing as a joke right this cat will not be a star Ah that's a fact that happened all right let's get to let's get your news update eight four four zero four which will also take your phone calls on the other side of this news update brought to you by okay so it would be a no as it would be a no it's a no no there it is right doesn't look like grounds coming back this year October before you get to report to the your news let's just take a couple of phone calls let's go to Ray in Vegas Rain Vegas Manhattan what's up rich how you doing welcome back yesterday was the anniversary of the Chris Chambliss home run my first baseball memory and in terms of just difference of calling a game everybody should seek out the Chambliss home run call by Keith Jackson and then as soon as the ball hit the back and it's leaving the yard you hear Howard cosell screamed that's gone and then he didn't stop Kim Hicks Injured Reserve that he's out it's a bummer for that bears deep just came across this morning you guys might WanNa have Dan we got two left now we got bengals doll understand and by the way they play each other deep in the season get that one right Yeah Week Sixteen here you go sixteen got Josh Gordon Kinda got banged up wasn't practiced today to kill Harry showed up practice designated to return after we see how he does his decay metcalf is done very well nineteen eighty eight October Fifteenth Nineteen eighty-eight Game One of the world series back then I just remember watching that and I remember thinking to myself those soft dodger fans leaving early Oh and fourteen verse fourteen situation who the Heck knows Dolphin stride man the three the game right now newest class of inductees so these are the nominees who gets in in your mind Pat Ben Atar Whitney Houston the notorious B I g nine inch nails Dave Matthews Toss Angeles as the as the camera widens out and you see the tail lights of people leave and then I moved out to Los Angeles and I'm one of those folks one thousand nine hundred eighty eight this happened let's go this day in history we need to make history ruttles never got in and then lastly Jennifer Aniston announced she joined instagram today guys hey who's eh he wasn't a layout type of guy which is the TV term when you ask announcer to let the crowd and the pictures tell the story you be quiet led a brief as Vin de had gone and then he'd let it breathe and then he said what he said about the improbable and the impossible something that you know he mentioned Joe Booker Yeah One hundred thirteen thousand followers already she follows eighty one is please tell me Michael del Tufo one of them may look fodder ready so she follows one celebrity sports figure you wish would hop on the social media train oh there she is with the whole cast of friends I post that'll be liked by about a million people one you can only take one film or movie or song from all of them we gave our picks early. Let's go to the phone lines chip in Maine Chris Brockman Kopech is so good at yeah didn't they wasn't there after the cubs won eat laid out for three minutes or something like that yeah interesting about the digs touchdown kudos to kirk cousins last two Games man Oh yeah two games I thought it was going to go the other way it's gone it's gone nothing but up the went in the you like that rex todd Rundgren soundgarden featuring shock Akon Lizzy motorhead. These are all going in here so they only take the nominee Sese de Niro Pacino Bruce springsteen all had dinner in the same spot I was watching it the whole time it's kind of crazy in London and I said Ban every one of them among a big west of others brothers session what is it do they do they oh these are all getting it's t story they've got a huge game coming up there at Detroit this week they're going bananas hit on this real quick is up your Alley Mike Rock and Roll Hall of fame announced nominees for the in committee. I should be on the veterans music riding the wrong of the fact that first ballots Aga- ballot I I went up on interrupted Scorsese's conversation at tell him how much I loved them and I figured I'd one shot to get in get him with any of them and I chose Scorsese and then got a Selfie by blocking his way with the back of my chair as if I was like just getting up just to get up oh you're leaving can I get a Selfie I like I really did that chip from a couple years ago laid off three yeah great spend much by the way I'll hit this four ounce tomorrow yeah Al Pacino's definitely to me San of a woman okay cocktail kind of a no brainer for me pulp fiction okay and oh I don't believe for Scorsese while apocalypse now is apocalypse now was was coppola okay that's my fault the employer has happened skelly all you know the appropriate cast all the guys just the greatest thing Deniro I'm going to go a little different my favorite deniro movie it'd be in the father of two sons Rackham they say RATPAC Tenth Avenue Freezer. Nobody's mentioned sensible woman can tool a saying that said scarface too I mean oncoming Dr Pepper coordinating producer upon our hearing our first entries come on if you're on a deserted island you gotta laugh comedy in there but there are comedic moments in these it's all good I I I was kinda confused on that good Dennis thanks for the call you got it I will not fall Dennis from midnight run no that was not arena as we all know he's rest in peace but midnight Ron Deniro and I know gangster movie I guess so but I mean midnight run as you know is my favorite comedy of all time funny nobody's GonNa meet the parents yet for Deniro but I mean just one movie just gotTa go one eight as a bronx tale I really don't want his role as the boys dad he's just just he he's everything you want your dad to be Pacino there was only one spirit there as they're not as good as the godfather that's the problem that's not a problem but that's the thing they're Knoxville Tennessee let's take your call what's up dentist how're you doing rich what do you got for me Dennis Okay I'M GONNA put a couple of quick votes on this category got going that guy just stole my thunder state what's going on to restore it Sir what's going on brother well I just wanted to chime in that was a great question. Congratulations see those guys springsteen down here streets of Philadelphia Tab with that and born in USA okay and Deniro was midnight run I influence of the Classic Rock Scene Eighties I just Fell in love with Song Tenth Avenue freeze out what a classic chip waited waited Nice great phone call seven he's what's Kinda hey deep here I love a chip y'all yeah he's fantastic he's the he's the man that movie springsteen as a young man growing up GEICO DOT com and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket of course this may be the most rewarding too thank you do you have an entry into this conversation as scared Scorsese's amazing catalog I think casinos my favorite movies okay for more Information Mike Pereira former head of NFL refs now Fox rules analyst joining US shortly here on the rich Eisen Show Jeff in Detroit Alright Jeff I heard you a DP do you do today. Direct TV has pro football and four K. HD are with lifelike picture quality Richard Colors and four times the resolution of it you couldn't say this to in twenty years ago but at the middle man now experiences like behind you you can now articulate how much you appreciate what he's meant to you and this it was the right time thorough red challenge flag when we don't agree Mike Pereira Pereira ahead of NFL reference cleaning pick-up some milk here's an idea let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list and good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to as I take the nominees yeah it's no there's no yeah there's no veterans committee this November that's why went raging bull for him casino is a good one from chip eight four four two zero four rich number to dial we have Pereira do it on on the process hd make sure to tune in this Thursday catch Kansas City at Denver direct TV Four K. China one oh five and if you don't have four K. go to att dot com slash is aw so it makes it even worse all Jeff I I don't know what to say other than the fact that you know even though Desmond Howard at a I'm assuming tongue-in-cheek tweet about check people is you know do they have a vision plan because clearly what everybody else was seeing is not what they were saying on the field and for some reason I think it's more insulting because you've had it elements to make sure that this doesn't happen and it still happens even more so now Louis out Pacino of course the Godfather Kite tell a little change up here too I loved his role and you five seven one my favorite movie of all time at the end of every situation the lions are worse for every time and I just I can't understand I really don't and obviously wasn't good but I have been saying all along today look at people say it was a phantom call for the illegal hands of the face I get it they weren't right calls but you can't go I mean not so much as to what happened last night but it's what's going on in this pass interference thing you know last night it's it's back in the day when I was on NFL total access now Fox rules analyst with everybody talking about officiating in the NFL that's next on the rich Eisen show everybody's got a to do list drop off the dry very good not very good and and maybe even worse because I heard he's down at the owners meeting in Florida and I'm not sure that I want to face that aw Gosh you're losing your nine oh how you've been in this situation before I imagine how how's Al River on feeling today do you think I'm I'm pretty good but can I call you uncle rich to I would like to know my as you bank accounts you know I I will I will say this uncle rich and to your credit you always championed play but I'm shoulder to cry on what do you got for me Oh my goodness the only thing that I ask is that I'm wondering do the brisket check for out of the neck or head area and in the first one he actually was the collar which is about what less than a foot away from the neck and the other one was on the left shoulder just Ah Jeff hang on the phone line and we're doing here Mike Pereira 'cause he's going to join us here thanks for thanks to call it Jeff in Detroit Mike Pereira former head of NFL refs Fox rules analyst here on the rich Eisen show how are you two thousand dollars for first place ten dollars you got to check this out today Yahoo daily fantasy has new content every week with guaranteed cash prizes even if you don't win the whole thing you can still walk away with a little more for me on scorsese I'm kind of torn on that one well 'cause I can't thank the top of my head what was the one with the Martin Sheen in it we're it's a war movie go down and put it in the end zone on fourth and goal you gotta just take that chance because don't come back every time and get you jeff on coal uncle for me claiming uncle when it comes to the Tuck rule I'm your daddy waiting for you to get that forward fumble in the endzone chains Doug who Solano Overhang the meantime let's continue on with again scores you had you had to do it right in that moment you couldn't let it pass it was a seminal moment easy it was quite yeah you I think you mentioned this easy you know it was a combination of all the things added the rest I have to put some of this on Matt Patricia because you cannot play in think you're GONNA be erogenous bill goes you gotta grow up there away from the obviously the calls were not correct calls and and but but they you know it's just it it gets frustrating sometimes for me rich because it in real time it's so hard when you have your hands up there and it's a flash and vay answer some questions and potentially make some money along the way from all of us here at podcast one thank you for being a dedicated listener I'm from coaches that they believe some time around week two week three that the emphasis or the the rule verbiage has changed because repeating and there's no doubt in my mind coaches think that it's it's off and they're more and more vocal frustrated I'm sick of it quite frankly because it just it's just it just kind of having to standards for one play entrust throwing their challenge flag and I get it they're frustrated everybody on social media is frustrated you know the owners the Golden Tate play to me looks exactly like some of the plays that Al River on showed to the NFL network media group in the rest of all the about it certainly when it comes to pass interference what can be done to get these things more right than certainly they have been through the first six weeks of the season then things will make a lot more sense to everybody because I just tell you just telling you if it's week seventeen and you got a game where the winner moves into the playoffs on air and production stabs as he went through the summer it looks exactly like something that would put a flag down on the field for pass interference it's just not right and so they want to change it and they wanNA leave that meeting and they want to say okay forget this clear and obvious stuff when you look at it alad either is or isn't this whole notion of agreed and and clear and obvious what they're doing is and it's not acceptable for coach coach challenges that it's defensive pass interference well I'd say first thing the league needs not to overreact by one for one play that happens in the championship game I mean I think it's bizarre that you know you go isn't that championship game in in New Orleans and that's what has everybody screwed up here and and they they could really change this and make it a lot easier and replay it is or isn't period then there would be sensible decisions made and good challenges made by coaches who now don't even Pat Shurmur in in New England the other day near the end of the game on a pass to Golden Tate he challenges that it's interference interference everybody knows it's interference and you have something like the Golden Tate situation where the League says in replay yeah it is but it's not big enough I mean it's going to be held to pay and now the standard appears to be even more strict you think something's changed mid-season here Mike now I don't think so I mean I look at every play to making pass interference reviewable all throughout the game and then second if you want a quick fix and you could fix this at the meeting today in Florida if you wanted to the lack clear instead of going to this big subjective it has to be be on what the officials look at on the field and turns their standard and just say pass defensive pass interference wasn't called and then they reviewed it it changed and put pass interference on it I mean it was it was the they the thing is it's almost seems to me like they went they were trying to get consistent to find some consistency and then it's made oh so kind of way out there I mean you don't know there's no guidelines to it really no consistent guideline to it and I just yeah I mean I I saw bruce or challenge for defensive pass interference and maybe you're right I don't know he challenged in a game against the giants well I'm not GonNa be I'm not going to be horribly surprised if they changes well the question is Mike Prairie on the rich Eisen show if it's already been changed because that's what I'm here it's hard for anybody our of Ron who I feel bad for has been putting the difficult place to find this standard that is so better worse or the same now from my time when I was there and and that's the key question that I struggle with but in the end how difficult it was to watch you is turning the game off this past week six straight snaps the football had a flag Jim Nance said what I'm sure many fans said he said it into era here on the rich Eisen show and it's more than just pass interference though Mike you've got all the holding penalties that happen through the first three weeks and Tom Brady even tweeted out about it has become why and I think that's because technology has is is sneaked its way so far into the game that we've got officials with the earphone but replay applies a different standard than the officials because it's not clear and obvious and egregious comparing all plays to what happened you can say what New York to say and I think it's taken you know a lot of the responsibility of officiating off the officials back and I think that's hurt them I think I mean it's it's like it's like to me the officials are not responsible enough for the game and officiating his snuck gets and matlock floor challenge to play saying that Philadelphia interfered my got its interference it's interference interference all day long defenders not play in the we call two in a row let's not call anything now for a couple of plays I mean I don't get that argument I really don't when they when they all are in fact it is hurt them in my day if you had a pass interference that occurred at the thirty two yard line you through your flag from twenty yards away you got it as close as you could to thirty two not but I I said this rich and I'll say to you and then I'm GonNa leave it alone people have asked me and it's a hard question for me do you think the -ficiating is owns directed to the replay booth to each other to New York there's there's too much going on and there's too much reliance on what the replay official my decision is I think the officials from top to bottom or better now than they were back at my time from top to bottom but the officiating is not as good and so then that question I almost bet my bottom dollar which is about all I have left you know that it doesn't make it back in at least under the form that it's in right now into the replay booth and snuck gets away into the art mcnally command center in New York and I think overall it is hurt officiate so then keeps the left arm from getting to the ball to try to make complex challenges no change later on in the game the Peterson challenges is interference and they don't change there's we just alle or whatever that said well the best way to be consistent is not to overturn period but I just think it's it's and I know it's a tough it's a tough job it's a tough Gig but what can be done here because there is now it's it's right or wrong it's now a narrative that fans are who is microphone that this nobody nobody wants this so what is to be died what can be done I mean just it's you know I think the real up to fail maybe that's it remember it's only a one year rule it's GonNa take twenty four votes to get back in next year and I don't think they'll get it structure at this point doesn't work so what structure does work I mean and and does the eye in the sky bazaars it seems will it be happens what can be done as a fix for the rest of this season Mike I mean I think that's the million dollar question I'm not Houdini I mean I don't know but I think you gotta try to quit officiating with Bandaids I mean fix officiating with bandaids and and I did it you know it is the the and I know this you could make the change on pass interference I think you could do that and I think they may because they don't want the super bowl to be cited by some decision like that but grabbed the receivers arm and he couldn't get it all the way up so they put it on that's it does that was pass interference then they went to Green Bay and Philadelphia pick up the flag sorry horrible injury that was knocked out momentarily but real time decisions like that with an aid official that that can correct some things and comes to another call one official and Kansas City Kansas City to just got by Houston one official throws a flag for defensive passenger elite. Say something damn sit him down well I'm not so sure that he's GonNa face the owners I mean face likely facing the competition committee you know who will lead by Jim Henson's thing I get that nobody wants to see six penalties but if you look at those six penalty they're all penalties so are you supposed to say okay awful and more consistent and get things done in a timely basis I think it would but that's really a radical change to add official in his uniforms it's not a fast hey hey clean that's not a foul the defender was going for the ball he's equally equally defenseless and so therefore there's no intent I I would look forward but it's again it's my thing I would look forward to that competition committee into look at the Competition Committee and saying this doesn't work on his radio show today everybody's talking about it that's what everybody's talking about not talking about what a great game this was where that was we're talking about the officiating still so what well I mean I think they've taken steps in their new agreement to saying they're going to hire a VP and training development but I think that it the the most important thing in the same way the first two weeks I mean just doesn't look that way and last night Matt Patricia did not throw a challenge flag for CRA clear passes they're probably talking about where they if they could make this change because I don't think there's anybody that's happy about it I don't think there's anybody that's happy about it and I to me that's a major step but that's a change in structure and I I think that's what they have to look at in the off season right last one for you grant another fisa comes over and says to him Hey you call pass interference but that pass wasn't catchable so then they picked up the flag because assistant coach former Pereira official Larry Rose tell him throw the flag and tell me nation with the broadcast crew though all of us mentioned that exact pass interference call that he challenged that's just one official with a different angle and a different viewpoint that comes in and correct something on the field and that's what the eighth official would do from sky box angel they drop it I don't believe so but they may tighten it up as to what is or what is not interference Mike you the best appreciate the time we'll chat soon you got it got correct got a flag put on the field for passionate ferns against the giants mentioned that specifically because he said he had his calling the backside frontside and the middle and then they had a conference call and now in the last three weeks we're at a pace that's less than holding calls that are less than last year so mm-hmm exactly what is the interference the arm was taken out use this language got it right one of the last ones doc I would say that as the head of a fishy this is not working my guys don't like it on the field nobody likes it we've got to make a change or you can't figure out what what they will do that that affected last night that happened last night and just bring all full circle Bruce Arians in

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The Ocho: Mike Pereira talks NFL rules changes

Blogging the Boys

30:44 min | 1 year ago

The Ocho: Mike Pereira talks NFL rules changes

"Nona what up world welcome to another episode of the ocho presented you in partnership partnership as always s._p. Nations bogging the boys dot com name our job you know me of course from and from right here as you're humble host on the ocho it is thursday the third day august twenty ninth two thousand and nineteen and before we get started a bit of an explanation of an apology from me <hes> we tell you that you get a cowboys episode every day here on the block on the boys podcast subscribe wherever you get your podcast and that is true and the truth. Is you know we had talked all we had said we have have a very special guest for this wednesday that what we're saying 'cause i thought we did and we have the very special guest today to be clear and so i- recorded an episode so for wednesday and i talked all about how i had misread the calendar and you know it was actually thursday that we're going to bring you this special gas and apologize and we had a big conversation sation about fifty three man roster and everything it was a really you know in my humble opinion and really great episode however when i went to upload it accidentally clicked the wrong day so i had accidentally clicked for a future day instead of wednesday the twenty eighth so it did not go out as publish just scrapped it. Don't worry about it but we do have a brand new episode of star connor dalton and coal. They do give you the three man roster projection so you can go. Listen to that in your feet and we have a very special guest joining us today from fox from your television screens from buffalo wild wings. Mike pereira the longtime and still time n._f._l. Rules official expert mike pereira is these are very special guests and had a great conversation with him talked about all things you know passenger transport because that is kind of the dominant subject when it comes to rules in the changes that we're seeing to the n._f._l. This offseason to be implemented for the nineteen season and i think it's something you'll really enjoy because you know when you hear my prayer on fox on america's erica's game of the week wherever they are if it's green bay chicago. You know sometimes minnesota washington new york whatever you know. Mike's got really interesting job and mike knows everything there is is to know about football and about the rules and obviously it was such a big change happening. His opinion is really important and can really help you understand in terms of what we can expect act from the pass interference change and mike you normally hear just explanation on rules but in this conversation we touch on the cowboys because his thoughts on on this team and he knows what he's talking to and so my good guy and a big big shout out to buffalo wild wings help make this possible because yeah you'll hear why in fact let's let's stop. Let's get right to it from fox from buffalo wild wings from the n._f._l. Mike pereira joins us next right here on d._o._t. Pleased to be joined now by one of the best in the business somebody who could probably regulate yours and my life in terms of every decision you have to face the one and <music> only from fox from the n._f._l. From buffalo wild wings these days mike pereira mike how you doing r._j. I'm doing great. It's really great to talk to you. It is fantastic. Talk to you. Mike because your voice means it's football season. I mean have you ever thought about people associate your voice this time of year you argue. It's amazing to me. How many people say to me. You know all all yeah you know they didn't. I know who i was. They thought me the might be like all. I recognize your voice so i guess i'm that ugly that the only thing my voice but <hes> it's it's at least for me. It does mean football. Season is here cords. It also means that that <hes> you know i anthony joined boned up on the rules and all that kind of stuff and <hes> but it's it's <hes> it's fun for me. Especially knowing the get the ballast phillips or things for four cowboy home teams that you know that large crew will be covering so. I'm really looking forward to start the excited talk to you about the cowboys in a bit part of america's game of the week crew and it's always great. You know what you guys are in town. It's obviously a big game and <hes> something something. Serious is on the line. We get there though everybody knows you from everything. Everybody knows you know the rules of the answers. You're doing something new ooh season with buffalo out and you're trying to help relationships. What's going on. Well you know actually buffalo wild wings reached community because they have a really cool idea about doing a a football pre-nup. <hes> or the regular season you know one of those deals where you're the big fan and you're the cowboy fan and you wanna make sure that <hes> you know that you get this your cowboy deems on the road and you know but you wanna make sure that you get back to your spouse or your partner to and so you sign up saying i get to watch the games these cowboy games and then your your spouse. Your partner gets to say okay. I'll let you watch votes but hey you know what <hes> you know. I want to go to that. Ah chilly contests but chilly weekend and so you're going to have to give up that we didn't for me so all of a sudden when they told me about that i thought you know maybe i wouldn't have been married twice if i would have had this agreement back the first marriage and and we have under slain before the season even started so they let me put on the stripe shirt and be the pre-nup of financial and <hes> you know and and kind of these people people in front of video how to get involved in how to sign up for this and i think you know i i really think it'll be fun and then these people to to have access to me on twitter. They wanna ask me questions like no really. Was it a catch or was. It might again please. You know they're gonna get access to me on twitter and <hes> and if you you know i really strongly urge people to have some fun with this and they can do it by going on seventeen w._w. Dot football pre-nup dot com and <hes> and they can sign up for this and that some fun. It's a cool idea. You mentioned football pre-nup dot com. You're on twitter at my career. You keep it simple long. No fancy underscores and it is cool because i i mean you've always got to make borrow. Hey sunday and then you know we'll go to that traders. Show whatever on tuesday <hes>. I know that always remain impartial can't fill one out but i know laura. Rutledge has from e._s._p._n. Right her and her husband. They have <hes> but it's good for them. I think that this is a new bird of an open relationship. You're open open and honest about your football football. I agree <hes> obviously the biggest subject when it comes to n._f._l. Rules this the report interference rule and what have n._f._c. championship game. You've been firm on this. You mentioned not your twitter. You've been tweeting like frasier millennial all all of us that <hes> that you don't think this is going to be a big deal. This could happen on average of once per game ha. How strongly do you feel in that role. I feel stronger stronger every week in the preseason and <hes> you know one of the reasons. Why long about not i'm you know three or more lima's i think the <hes> the coaches are are pretty loose with their challenges in the season. They really don't care. They lose it. Find out well. That's which it one of the regular season starts you know you get a limited number of challenges and if you lose a challenge then you get a timeout charge to you and so that being said i made they're going to be less inclined to challenge and then here's the other thing that you know in the preseason coaches said things jaycees job of helping push through <hes> you know they need to decide or figure out where the sand hiring is from new york forget about the officials. They're gonna appreciate it on the same way. If it's so close they can't tell they're not gonna call it but it was interesting. Interesting is of the forty eight that we had in the in the preseason soul are for everyone were hall was made either o._t. I and u._p._i. It would not seen on the field. It's stood every time. There were no conversely so if i'm a coach that's the first thing i'm saying to myself. Look if it's called a maximum challenge. I'm not going until we find out because they're staying with the clear and obvious standard when it comes to low to be call and so so i think you'll get less coaches challenges from that period so you're doing really intended to do the to address the play from new orleans last year with the ram if it's not call and it is clear and obvious that it that it should have been called then they're gonna put pass interference down on a six time and fix time in forty stoppages stoppages <hes> so i just don't think is going to have the impact that <hes> and really make a mess out of it like people thought originally amen included beat. I don't like we were gonna see three or four stoppages for gain now that i see how new york family and i think that it's going to be unclearly one football is finally back and nothing adds to the excitement of watching that first game like having a shot at a million dollars. Here's draft kings the leader in one day fantasy football is celebrating the start of the season with an extra special week one contest new users can sign up today and get get a free shot at the one million dollar grand prize just by using code espy nation. Here's what you do download. The draftkings app use that code sb the nation draft six players from the opening thursday night showdown between chicago and green bay and then dirk draft king single game showdown contests with two and a half million gillian dollars in total prizes already draftkings user you can get in on the action to for a limited time. Both new and existing users can get a deposit bonus miss up to five hundred dollars. 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Network you can spend through all the most exciting plays as they happen and watch your favorite teams and players every sunday plus fantasy hennessy stats extended highlights and much more and it all happens on just one channel stream n._f._l. Football live with sling t._v. Don't miss out on this landmark n._f._l. Season when you sign up now get your first month for only twenty five dollars. Just go to sling dot com slash box dash n._f._l. That's s. l. i. N. g. dot com slash vox dash n._f._l. Again sling dot com slash vox dash n._f._l. I want to circle back to the jason garib part of this in a second mike but you know i get the concern over time stoppages and maybe this is where football naps truly are valuable but i mean if there were three or four stoppages in the game i mean who does that hurt legitimately i mean because i feel like football is a is a situation where you just devote your sunday. I mean most fans are just this is our entire day. It's what i do so you're going to be watching from start to finish. I mean three or four stoppages twenty to twenty five minutes. Potentially i mean at the absolute maximum. Is that because that really like a just an ultimate terrible situation for the well. I don't think it hurts. You know the single game you know i. I don't think it works through sunday nineteen. I don't think it's a monday night game i but it does hurt because it hurts their on sunday. Where you know you have teams the you know the fear in the west coast kick off at ten to gawk no five foot eight preussen or fan or anybody to watch television more breaking away from a ten o'clock gene because if your local market rules rules and you're going to break away from a tight game and then you know interrupt go somewhere else that's why they've already moved american being the week the twenty five minutes after jordan our in that <hes> five minutes after the hour if there is considering about that and and you know i i would say this thing. It's tough about it is it's all that time. It's all time for the you know for the for the guys guys watching the game on television the you know if i'm thinking i'm a fan on either december through five. Ah agrees outside. It's not fun so i i think it has to flow to the being and and i think replace leads to remain limited <hes> but i wanted to but i don't. I don't think it's going to happen and i think eighteen better off for well. It's interesting that you've kind of pulled a one eighty in that regard. I feel a certain way about jason garrett as i'm sure you're aware but the truth is he's a highly intelligent person and he has a lot of respect and reverence for the national football league and everything that's come before him and sean mcvay who obviously obviously was a part of the n._f._c. championship game is on record that jason garrett into your point really did kind of help. Get this point across. What impact is he had. I think was fans really would like to hear some some sort of details in terms of what jason goods thoughts on this specifically well. I jason garrett <hes> you know part of the group. I mean he. He knew i mean you that something was gonna come out of the comments it had i mean the the missing the new orleans was you know had such a such consequence to that you knew that something was going to come out of there and fat it also was sean payton on the competition committee that <hes> you know something going to happen and and the thing would jason is in you know in my right feelings are chasing when iran department and <hes> and even might be jason's when i've seen him in a cowboy beans about is is level headed as i've seen anybody when it comes to understanding a rural and the you know the ramification of a rule change engine semi he beat the coaches you know in that regard the fact that you know he's able to see it not through the eyes of the cowboys but through the eyes of the coach and i thank you saw the danger of taking it totally out of the coach hands and and and i think he knew that the rally the coaches together to get something done and <hes> and and you know listen. I'm not saying that i ever really necessarily that's a -sarily had favorite coaches. <hes> you know in the league but jason was always a guy that treated me with the utmost respect. Even though maybe he didn't agree you now with something that <hes> you know something what's called so he just he just a strong player amongst through of coaches that's interesting and it really does does vibe with <hes>. He's you know he's always had strong leadership qualities and that's something that people have grown to learn about him so that i think that fits that mold really well two more for you might cause. I know you're busy. Getting people signed up for prenups and everything <hes> you know cowboys fans do watch you. You know what feels like every week. I'm curious and if you could explain what's the process like like when when joe enjoy bring you in just could you can't deal the curtain back. What's that like you know. Is it okay. You know. Somebody tells you the producer in your ear this play we're going to discuss. We've got this highlight. What's that whole process like for you well. It's you know i'm wherever you are. I am there so that means in dallas four times china. I think totally six times and i stand right next to troy and <hes> you know what what happened. Is i have my headset but i have my mike turned off and <hes> the truck is obviously the the broadcast production truck is listening to what joe says and troy and if there is something that joan joe things i can add to he will just say you know mike pereira what your thoughts and then they get my microphone and <hes> and and then i just i say what you know immediate reaction what i think whether it's on a pass interference call or replay situation i also have the ability to talk dr troy and cajole you know as the players are going on to feed them some information <hes> if i can but i think it's really in in all honesty you know part of our job is to project. You know what we think about what happens on the field. Whether it's a football play or whether alerts an an officiating decision and many many many many of the officiating decisions are easy and are right but some of those is that right or maybe wrong i think joe and troy look rather the need that makes the comment on whether it's right or wrong and and and i am the one that has so they do the easy ones that i get tough one but being in the booth <hes> and being involved involved in every one of their games as i was last year and we'll be this year has given me a far raider appreciation creation of the work that both troy and joe do you know and she the work that they put in in preparation for the games and the players <hes> is incredible and think that they would have to add officiating too that when they've never done that <hes> you know really they kinda even made it more difficult for them. So maybe i get to take some of the heat off of that and and i and i i really have i've really ever enjoyed doing that. It is such a fascinating situation because you have a job that everybody thinks they can do something. That's i'm sure an interesting detail. Finally mike because you do watch the cowboys so often in you guys obviously cover a lot of n._f._c. games. You're in philadelphia often in green bay. What are your thoughts on the cowboys this season i mean you guys have the super bowl so i mean you think you'll see the guy was in miami. I mean what's going on there. I think we have a chance to see the cowboys in miami. <hes> <hes> you know to me. You've got some missing parts of course but will eventually get settled. I make you you have to have <hes> you have to have a balanced balanced offense. I mean i just don't think back than survive if he has to throw the ball more than totally necessary i mean you've gotta that'd be able to run the ball. You've been known for having a good offense. You find the parts. The parts are there and i think what's going to happen one of these years and maybe it is this sure that <hes> you know everything clicks and you go from having a hard time winning a playoff being periods are rolling into super bowl and i think that they're us back kind of talent. You know on the on the cowboy roster so you know we're optimistic is certainly i think we would like to be because you know find an old forty niner fan. You know right to say when we wanna know superbowls with joe montana. We're america's team you know and steelers. I'm trying to say when they have run their america's team. Well guess what the cowboys are america's team and it shows by the ratings there are towel boy fan everywhere and so you know we had boxer optimistic that <hes> that they'll have a good year and of course joy some <hes> some inside that that too so we we. We like their chances well. Here's hoping mike that when we see on radio row in miami the cowboys are getting ready for practice and you know getting things squared away to play a game that following sunday sign up for a pre-nup it will save your marriage or your relationship. <hes> mike pereira will help you. Football pre-nup dot com on twitter at mike. I might have a great season best of luck and hopefully hopefully the heat you take is is a little bit cooler than usual. Thanks i appreciate that a very large in charge thank you to my career in buffalo wild wings for the time on thursday. What what a pleasant conversation pleasant guy i had. I've met my career once before at the super bowl in houston fifty-one working radio e._s._p._n. San italian we had him on the blitz and he's a great guy. You know we took a photo together. He's so cool and so awesome so down to earth and and i think that that really came across i think it was really cool that he owned up to being a forty niners fan and i think it's really impressive that he thinks the cowboys can be in miami for super bowl fifty four. I think it's impressive that he said that fox oxes helpful. I think that those are important. Things and i think it was a great conversation and i think the football prenup thing. It's a fun thing for your girlfriend boyfriend. My friends spouse partner husband wife whatever you got going on. I think it's a fun way because you know everybody has that you know a whole man. We got to watch this game again again. I thought we didn't we just watch the game yesterday. Yeah i mean okay fine. I'll make you deal. Here's this pre-nup football pre-nup dot com. If you want to get one and sign up and have some i'm fine with it and we'll be sure to take that trip. We'll be sure to go to that movie. We'll be sure to go to that. Play whatever it is. You gotta do to watch football. You get it done on you know how it is. The fall is so crazy. Everybody knows that everybody experiences that i know in my life personally you know i've i've got high school football games on friday nights so that takes up fridays and then have a saturday morning radio show that kinda eats up into that day and then you know before you know it sunday. It's kick off and everything is wild and crazy but it's the time of here that everybody looks forward to <hes> before we get out of here. I think it is worth talking about what marshall faulk had to say about ezekiel elliott and jalen smith. <hes> you know obviously this happened on wednesday and i wrote about it. Blogging the boys dot com ahead to tweet about it as well but if you somehow missed it marshall faulk was on the dan patrick show oh on wednesday and you know obviously marshall faulk is relevant because he's in kabo training ezekiel elliott reportedly and he told dan you know dan asked him. What's your job was. You can in marshall said look. Let's be clear. I don't have a job. I'm here to trains you. Come here to get him into game shape etc and that was all fine and whatever everybody had their lives when marshall said he was trying to beat the puke in kabo but what what marshall said about jalen smith felt like a line crossed and that's because last week when marshalls on the rich eisen show he talked about how dak prescott was kind of a bomb paying him would be sort sort of a bomb decision and you know whatever in and that was really questionable but when talking about jaylen smith marshall said this if you think about this and i'm not counting owning another man's money but if you think about what jalen smith did and what he got compared to what zeke has done and what he is asking for. It's not even close. It's not even even close. They drafted linebacker in the first round last year. If they thought so much of jalen i mean you draft another linebacker. In the first round. Marshall faulk was using the fact that the cowboys drafted in vander ashes an indictment against pain jalen smith perhaps and that's just they're bad takes and then there are just miss of takes and this is somehow both and it's not like you know people people say what they say about different analysts and people that talk about sports for a living and whatever and that's fine. You got a problem with this show host. You've got a problem with that. Ah you know program whatever that guy. He hates my team. Whatever marshall faulk is a hall of fame running back. He's literally one of the best running backs to ever live and so oh it's just startling that he could say something like this. You know that would imply the he believes that up the only one linebacker to play football football football the saint louis rams faced in the late nineties and early two thousands. Maybe that's why i'm mike martinez. Offenses were so great. I don't know but the point here is the point at the end of it. All it is it is not the worst thing in the world so nobody freak out but it is very not good for zeke ezekiel elliott that somebody who is so closely attached to him in the middle of this whole doubt as the regular season. We're talking on thursday okay. The regular season begins a week from today. Obviously the cowboys always don't play in that game the chicago bears and green bay packers but we are ten days away from the regular season beginning and somebody that is closely attached to with zico elliott is publicly on the rich eisen show and the dan patrick show calling out not just two of his teammates but he's calling out dak aca prescott and jalen smith. Who are you know and people will say whatever about doctor who are beloved by the cowboys organization by a lot of cowboys fans it. It is just you know can can any you know real harm come from this. I don't know potentially what i do. Know is that no good can come from this and so it would it would be it would be a good thing if this stopped happening is really kind of. I think the best way to put it but but that that about does it for thursday's episode again we fifty three man roster predictions happening on the blog of the boys podcast feed talking to star talked about it. We've got tons of two to three men roster. Talk happening at blog on the boys dot com. This episode is being recorded and dropping a little bit before lunchtime on thursday so obviously the cowboys play their preseason finale tonight thursday night against the tampa bay buccaneers we will have a post game episode up on the blog on the boys podcast so you should into tally get about three episodes depending on the time time this fine thursday and so we'll have that available for you if you're if you go to sleep after the game on thursday night maybe preoccupied. I know my texas magazine. Playing clemson's play in the united states some national teams playing. I mean there's a lot going on in the sports world so if you're just preoccupied know that at the very least friday morning we'll have a post game. Wrap up show for you here on the blogs podcast feed on the ocho. We'll talk about our reactions thoughts two years and who we think ultimately mix to three airman roster so that doesn't have the best thursday of all time and i'll talk to you later today or tomorrow depending on how that goes with all that being said ed indiana my friends as always go cowboys <music> <music> <music> hi emma medically editor and chief eater and i am daniel janine producer here at peter and we are here to tell you about our brand podcasts yours digest every week on the show we dive into the weirdest funniest and most important stories he's in the world of food with the inside scoop from the biggest names in the industry and expert insights from the eater newsroom <hes>. 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REShow: Mike Pereira and Mike OMalley. Hour 3 (05-29-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

57:41 min | 3 months ago

REShow: Mike Pereira and Mike OMalley. Hour 3 (05-29-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else you podcasts. And now attorney. This is the rich. Eisen show live from the rich. Eisen show studio in Los Angeles. Baseball cannot throw its hands up and say we're not playing because we couldn't figure out the mind the rich Eisen show earlier on the show. Mlb Network reporter Tom for duty coming up senior. Nba writer for the athletic. David Eldridge Fox. Sports rules analyst. Mike Pereira us from TNT's Snow Piercer. Actor Michael Malley and now you're rich is far lower. The Rich Eisen show her on the air on Friday of this month of. May that we can't wait is over and then we get to June and then hopefully in June. We will see the return of some more sports. We had a David Aldridge on the Last hour talking about how June Could be the the return of the NBA in terms of training for July. David allred DOT COM for on in the first hour program on on Sirius. Xm and also YouTube dot com slash. Rich Eisen show We had them On earlier David and Tom. Talking about the return of baseball looking far further away. I'll just repeat once again here on this show If BASEBALL THROWS ITS HANDS. Up and says we can't do it because of money than a pox on that house and. I know we shouldn't say words like that. I guess in a way In a pandemic but this is exactly the time when they need to put any distrust and mistrust. Assad as it seems They are. They're dealing with that right now. Mike o'malley From Snow Piercer and back in the day as the rick from ESPN Have a good fun. Chat with our our friend from the city of Boston He will be joining us in about eighteen minutes time to talk about his new show on. Tnt But back here on the rich Eisen show To talk about the rules changes that were made in the NFL yesterday and some that were withdrawn and some were tabled as the UH lead Fox rules analyst for their football coverage in my good old friend from back in the day being the NFL. Refs when he was and I was sitting on the NFL network total access that we always had a great chats as we plan to have. Right now Mike Pereira. How are you Mike? Well that's pretty darn good. You know you're still working. I'm catching beautiful. Trout and crane ferry reservoir about thirty five miles from Bend Oregon. Just living the dream the dream when he texted me yesterday saying that you were going to be fishing when we spoke. And I'm like hey you got a good average. She had a nice We had a nice shot of what appears to be what you're doing right now that we're that that that the reception with good sounds like you're sitting right next to me so we're all good. I am and Leo is just reeling. His forts fish. I've taught three already today and It's just it's just thought football rules. Can we do now? We can do that and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to do exactly that. So can you explain to people? What the difference between withdrawing a proposal and what Tabling a proposal actually means because the sky judge got withdrawn and the fourth and fifteen alternative to a one shot from fourth and fifteen hundred twenty-five alternative to an onside kick got tabled. What does all that mean Mike Withdrawn? Then it's gotta be brought up again next year it's basically dead If it's tabled you know. Then they're going to look at a few more things and I think rich. They brought up some good points. You know as they to get you know give teams more of an opportunity to get the ball back if they're behind. I think that you know when you look I the issue with the clock. Could you just run out the clock? If there was two seconds then they said that's not right they said okay. Let's make it a just deadball place or no time would run off the clock and I think that was fair but I. I really do think that it's too much of an opportunity to come back. Because you conceivably could complete one play that game you know forty yards and be in a position where you could kick a field goal to win the game and that. That doesn't sound right. That brings back the old issue of you know the overtime period when you could get the ball in the first drive run a couple of plays kick along field goal when the game so I I really think it needs more Laura thought I personally think it needs to be junked period You know to me you know nonsense. Kick an onside kick. The opportunities to recover are slim down in that range of seven percent. But Hey listen. You're behind so you shouldn't necessarily get a free shot or have it made easier for you to get To get the ball back. But you know they'll take a further look at this but whoever was that Tennyson. Okay wait a minute. Not Fair Not Fair. You could win the game on one play when a normal onside kick the balls dead as soon as it's recovered by the kicking team you know beyond the receivers restraining line so. I think they used good good sense in at least Tabling Matt. So then what would be the fixed if you can? I know you want a junket. There are others who kind of like it and by others That would be me. I kinda dig the idea of of giving one shot of seeing a an actual football players opposed to some sort of a scrum where somebody makes a Boehner hands team play. And then that's the way a game changes are. I wouldn't mind seeing an actual football play. So would it be the distance or for me? The issue would be one penalty flag on the defense. Gives the offense the ball base again? What an automatic first down would come with that play. So then everybody's favorite defensive hold from fourth and fifteen play they give you an automatic first down That drives you know I. It's it's you know there's too many unknowns about the thing I I just you know to me. I get a little worrisome. What would be fixed? Well I guess you could look at it a fix and say that the play could maximum. Take you to the Forty Yard. Line that you you couldn't go beyond that but then that's unrealistic basically the shutdown a play midstream. You know because you get the on the forty yard line but You know we always try to create excitement which I think is great You know to me. The judge proposal is more important Man but yet you know that to me is getting a little bit less discussion as we go forward sill. Let's get to that one Mike Prayer here on the rich Eisen show. It's funny when we saw senior technology advisor being The title that either somebody who. Maybe they're the ones who came up with the Wardrobe Malfunction Concept the other you know many years ago to call I text you Mike. What's a senior technology advisor? You want to respond what your tax was back to me. I. It's this guy. Judge God sakes I like we WANNA WE WANNA call it something different than what the Af called and you WanNa do a different. Do a different way. And when I when I look back at the AF Judge position who put it together hall of Famer Bill Polian and and he did a good job in discussion with those of us. Involved in the League to say let's limit and but limited in Portland to most important aspects. I guess you'd say in the game players safety so that a guy judge not somebody sitting in the replay guth not to replay official. Who has enough to do anyway? Just an eighth official in the booth with a guy to help him run the video and let them get involved in all players safety issues throughout the course of the game and then let them get involved in pass interference in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter. That's what it was in a often to me makes perfect sense player safety if you call it. The officials on the bill call a hit on a defenseless receiver. Because they said there was helmet contact but the video shows that they're not that it's not been the sky judge could call down and pick it up vice versa if he doesn't call it but it is clear helmet-to-helmet contact and if he can put it on. Let's focus on what the league deals. Is the most important thing going forward with the League which is player safety so let's utilize the sky. Judge the eighth official much like the field. Judge the judge and the In the side judge but utilize him for player safety and then let him get involved and pass it appearance of my last five minutes of the fourth quarter. I think it's simple. I think bill put together a good plan and and I. I think you could easily work here and I and I you know I understand Troy Vincent saying that they don't have the pipeline of you know people. Where do you get these people? I think the other simple plan is just make him a part of the crew and official he comes out of the college ranks like everybody else. And Guess What? The deep officials rotate. So you'll be in that position. This guy judge position every third game and into me. Then that college guy gets experienced both on the field and in the booth and And I just think it's. It's the one concept rich. In my opinion that's out there that you're really trying to change officiating if you're really trying to make officiating better and you really trying to get more calls right. Forget about the offside or lined up in the neutral zone or delay game player safety. Pass interference let's go. It'll work if you want to expand later try to expand and then how how does for those who might not have seen the AF. Mike how does it work for because for me? You know my issue always is a flag that you don't see flying in when you're watching it and you know the crew and the truck doesn't light up the yellow flag rectangle In a manner that you use E or you know quickly enough or you're in the stands you're at a game and you don't see the flag thrown certainly so however in the stands Noah flag has been thrown. How will we know when a sky judge chimes in late? That might really rile up. A lot of people understand getting it. Right is better than than not in that would really rile people A. I'm just concerned about the actual mechanics of it and how that would fail the process. Let me just say I let me? Just say this that you know. I think that the the game has gone through so many changes and it looked so different and people get used to it and I think people would get used to this also and I'd have to say that the the call that is either made by the sky judge or picked up by this guy judge. We'll be obvious. It's not something you would hope. That would a incorrectly put on her incorrectly reverse. But you know I I have to tell you it was interesting i. I went back and looked at the championship. Game the broncos at the chiefs in Nineteen Ninety seven. That was my last game and a horrible call that I made in that game or failed to me and I watched the whole game for the first time about three weeks ago and you know I have to say after watching the three hour football game without instant replay. My God it was a thing of beauty I mean and and the interruption that have come into the game now with instant replay. All of the stops whether it's initiated by the the replay official himself or if it's a call that coach challenges there's so many stops but we've gotten used to it and we're not gonNA go back and I I think in the since we're using technology and there are already college conferences. They're all using the. You know the power five conferences all using eight officials. Let's just take the step and see if it works. Look I think it's got a hell of a lot better chance of working than the pass. Interference a screw up last. You're making that reviewable I think this is. It's worth a shot rich. It'll look different and the flag will beat the lay but the referee. He'll make the announcement after input from the sky. Judge there was pass interference on the play number twenty three defense. It's first and ten at the fifteen yard line. Move on go and you know the next day. Probably nothing will be mentioned in the newspaper or the talk show host because it'll become a normal part of the game a few more minutes left with Mike Pereira as he's fishing right here on the rich Eisen show. I'll just give you the floor then on the ultimate question about pass interference no longer being a renewable play that there was a zero point. Zero Full Blue Tar ski shot of that thing being made permanent as the as the rule mandated that they were going to try it for one year and then revisit for permanent instant replay the year that I started on NFL network at that owners meeting at the breakers and Florida so Why why did it fail? Mike was it doomed from the start. Walk me through. That was thirty two ZIP after one week of the season on last year. Quite frankly in the opinion of coaches and everybody that wasn't GonNa Work and look it's simple. I mean there's no way there's absolutely no way that you can make a play a judgment call like replay and attached to different standards to it so you have you WANNA call one way on the field but then if it's get challenged or then you want to call it a different way in replay. So it's pass interference at either is or isn't on the field but when it went to the replay booth and poor our ever on then it was like yeah. It's pass interference. But is it big enough? Is it big enough for us to call and replay? Is it big enough to what compared to what happened in New Orleans? It's it's senseless. It was senseless and it wasn't fair to the poor outrun. And if you WANNA make it work like under the Sky Judge Position Guess when you get into the last five minutes it is either interference or it's not when replay shows that the contact is early. Forget about it just a little bit early but it's early then it's interference so use one standard us one standard and then to me. It has a chance but you know I would also really make it. Be the end of the game. The last five minutes because in that in that championship game in New Orleans there was a big mess in the first quarter. Anybody talking about that. No because it was the first quarter. It's at the end of the game when it has the impact so I do think it can work if you use the same stance and again when you said just to wrap this up. Go full circle here. You said at the beginning when something is withdrawn It's dead you just meant for the current season tabled means that it could actually mean It could actually come into being for the upcoming season. Withdrawn means that she needs to be starting from scratch the next year. Exactly okay. So Do you think that. There's a shot at USC. You sound very I mean you sound bullish on the Sky Judge Mike Certainly Cam I am this game. Getting harder and harder to officiate and the officials themselves might not say well. We don't want it. Well I know they say that a lot but the fact is this game. Two players are getting faster in more. I mean it is a very tough game to officiate. And who gets all the criticism the official so give them a tool to get the major calls right and use another official don't use instant replay. Don't use the replay official. Let's just let's just hand them in a different age so that they can basically their overall performance Including their eighth official. This guy judge really improved mandated. Ask you before you hang up. What was the the call that you blue or you didn't make from years ago. Oh my God simple. It was my one and only playoff game actually because I win the opposite after my second year but the most the simple is illegal contact called in the world down out to macabbi actually ran out and up and he got chucked it ten yards elway still in the pocket and and I'm the side judge to make the call and I froze. I swallowed the olive. I chill whatever you WANNA call it. You know I it was. It was awful and I'll never forget it and Mike Shanahan still talks to me about that. Come on now. I did come out and he does. He does and and you know. Here's the deal at the end of the game toward the end game in the fourth quarter and a fourth down pass into the end song Tony Gonzales went up and was hit and he landed inbounds out of bounds. It was so tough. Was it a four out? Was it not what hit burst out of bounds? And of course it fell on my shoulders. And so I hit it up relief. Incomplete so they turned over the ball and Denver won the game and I'm actually was right on that one and so I remind Mike. About right when he tells me. Oh yeah that's right. That was the great call and of course you know we won the Super Bowl and then I always say well. Then where's my Dan Ring? Call right I should get a super bowl ring for guys. So so if if Shannon channel long he's got a long memory is about to say so when you're the head of NFL REPS and he's coming at you about something that was current. Did he ever remind you that you screwed that one up? Just like what he was accused. This time. You're right before you hung up. Yes he would remind me of that. Take Yourself Mike go go go catch your fish go. You gotta hope they keep by. That's Mike Mike Pereira He. I remember a couple years where he would he would. He was when we first started. Nfl Network and he would do his official review. I remember we would do it on Mondays. Remember do it like fresh right out of the box and then a couple years later he started doing it like on a Wednesday and the reason why is because because it was new. It was totally new putting the head of. Nfl refs on NFL network. That was when I was one of one of our earliest great. Like I and talk about access stuff that you couldn't see anywhere else. The biggest controversial calls. We would talk about it with Mike Pereira and we started on Monday. And then we wednesdays because I heard it was a almost immediate non starter for all the coaches who wanted to call and get a piece of Mike. Pereira to be told he's recording with NFL network right now. That was not an acceptable answer to some of the people who wanted a pound of Herrera's Flesh. So he would spend the first two days of the Week. Administering the back and forth that coaches demanded of him then once that was all put to bed coaches. Now we're going to move and turn the page on to the next week Mike would then show up on Wednesdays and then and then one year After the Super Bowl in Seattle with Seattle and Pittsburgh he went on vacation and we did it the following week and our remember Matthew Hasselbeck seeing me at the pro bowl after they lost you to Pittsburgh where was Pereira he f- he called us the NFL's network because we wouldn't talk about it because it was the super bowl on like he's on vacation man. We did it a following week later then. I asked him all about that stuff. Mike o'malley of Snow Piercer. My Buddy Mike o'malley from back in the day. The Rick will join us so that is not a real photograph of Mike Pereira Fish. I asked me. That's a photoshop. Look very real to weed holding up a I. Don't I don't work out. What a Rainbow Trout Rainbow? It looks for looks pretty that because reservoir is right I mean that was like really good the only millions the only the only Fitch Mitch you got me. I I I I've gone. I did go fishing once I think in Lake Shasta up in northern California. Because you know that's what mean when I did my local. Tv UP IN CALIFORNIA. I went fishing panned for gold. I've actually done that in life. You don't seem impressed by that. Chris I have you ever panned for gold or you're not paying attention. I HAVE PAN for gold and I've caught many fish the pan for gold. Yeah we're in Skagway Alaska the birthplace of the Alaskan gold rush boy and here I am northern California thinking. I was just like call him. You just call Mark Kelly on me when I When we lived in Alaska The second time we took a field trip and like the fourth or fifth grade up the skagway and you and you go I'm pretty sure it's all been panned out by then I got a few. No I got a few flakes. Wake No. I'm not saying like it was deadwood. No it was cool. We had these like cool pans and they taught us how to put the water in and kind of sifted around. Yeah I can say I never have panned for gold. I've Pan for gold done how I must fly. Fishing and in Lake Shasta was on a on a houseboat GESTA. That's my outdoors career. Yeah we will ask. We had a boat. We would go fishing like every weekend tonight. Got My dad and his friend would go on the weekend. Excursions is fun so phone. Number's eight four four zero four rich. Here's our role. when the NBC s N. audience rejoins us. Mike o'malley will be on the phone line and I haven't spoken him in quite some time. And then then we'll take your calls and head into the weekend at eight four four two zero four rich set up the rest of the week as well Here on the show. Update the poll question real quick. Not Really I mean just disrespect for Carmelo Anthony. That's going on right now Yes so who's career would rather have vince. Carter Komo Anthony. Who's his thirty sixth birthday today? Eighty one percent one happen. What happened I I mean I guess like in Game Dunking is cool. I suppose rather than being you know the greatest basketball player ever one of the most clutch shooters of all time ten time all star scoring champ. Sorry it's turned out that way for you. I get it I mean. He's a New York. Knick he's short he's my guy please please. We're back with Mike o'malley in a second here. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM to this Friday program on the rich Eisen Show live on NBC Sirius Xm Channel to eleven our youtube page. Please subscribe to it. If you already haven't youtube dot com slash rich Eisen. Show our streamed all the time The Stars of Snow Piercers v. Digs was on last week Jennifer Connelly and this man my buddy from back in the day Got To meet him years ago on the at Sp's I believe in on ESPN when he was the rick. Now he is a writer producer. Show runner and actor. Extraordinary Mike. O'malley back here on the show. How are you Michael Rich? Eisen great talking to you today man so happy to be with you doing all right. I'm surviving you know. I'm home with three teenagers. Lockdown mode still so We got a seventeen year old. You got a fifteen year old girl. Thirteen year old. So it's It's insane I I miss the Youth Sports. I do anything to sit in the stands that this affects to some dad. I wanted to punch in the throat. Talk about but I never thought I'd miss that. I miss it now. You never thought you'd miss the parents who make life miserable for youth sports but that is the way that the world is turning right now. Mike how did you get? How did you first get involved in a again? You're big on youth sports here and baseball for sure about teaching kids the game and the love of the game. When did you? How'd you get involved in that year's Schmuck Amish mock rich Schmuck who believes that the dad had be around their sons is out and have a good relationship with them and I like any mcdaddy suckered into it by some guy who made it seem like it was a great thing and then next thing I know I was doing it and You know like I said any any time you can leave a youth Jim Or youth Sports field and not have got into a fistfight with somebody. I think is is a great day. That's the victory for me. It's not about teaching kids the love of the game realizing how much we're really on you know on the on the brink of You know war at any time because that rage within us to have to sit next people who don't know what they're talking about. You know Mike. One Year I've I've mentioned here on the show I don't know if you were. That was why we had you call in once but I think it was with with with. I wasn't this particular but the Youth League that you know that you are associated with here. My son plays and He he had a manager. Who would set the lineup? Based on at when the Kate arrived. So if you want your kid relate if you brought your kid late he would like tenth in the order and then have to wait maybe like three innings to hit so for the final game. I'm like for well which by the way wasn't very fared to parents would like to other kids in Sunday. Just scenario we my wife and I we were determined. We're GONNA GET OUR SON to the game on time for the last game for the last game of the year and sure enough. We got him in the top of the order and he gets up there and another fellow eight year old hits them in the chops and the and he goes right down and so. I go out on the field to make sure he's okay because he never says a word whenever he gets hurt and this time he was beginning to cry and the Umpire told him to take his base Mike. The Umpire told him to take his base and I started telling them partly. No no no. We've been waiting a week for my son to hit. We got my son here on time. You have no idea what the hell is happening in my house today and I was suddenly with everybody watching. I was that dad going to an umpire. Who's giving his time for this whole rich? I was there for a moment Mike. You're allowed to be that guy. This is the thing rich when your kid thing sports that I've figured out. Is that when you catch strikes out or they make an error or you know the opposite. They get a hit. It's all primal when you think to yourself. Oh my God my name. Never go on this person's never gonNA meet a girl fall in. Love have children because he can't succeed. This is primal. This is it's just you know. We've we've taken to to to things like sports but own English rich. I'm sorry that happened as the former president of that league. I hope that that league mostly brought you joy very much and we miss it right now. You Miss It. I mean so many so many Young men and women in Youth Sports obviously also high school spring sports. Being canceled right now. It has been very very difficult that people waiting for their senior years for their spring sports before they graduate. It's it's been brutal you know and you know. I think one of the things that the kids don't realize you realize it is grown up in ever whatever you drive your kid to a practice and you know they kind of got tired. I WANNA go. I get so much homework and then if you were to cut to the drive home when they're in a great mood it's because you know that That energy that they have from you know exercising and being with their friends and joking around and laughing. It's just like when you know when you go to work. You Never WanNa go do it. You always feel better after you did it. And I think that they're not able to make that connection. Necessarily that's the difficult thing is. I mean if all of us come on and every single kid of you know depressed just went by Wok in side not being able to you know exercise and be with their friends. I mean that's a win. You know Mike o'malley here on the rich. Eisen show Are you going to root for Brady and Tampa Mike were yes? Of course I'm gonNA root for Tampa. He's look he's dead. Tom Brady is brought a all. New England fans and and most football fans tremendous joy in terms of how he performed. A lot of people. Don't like him because he won a lot of super bowls and and beat their teams. But I mean as a guy who know rooted for the Patriots all growing up and then got to be right around the two thousand and started to really take off. This guy is no br brought so much joy family and and So I root for him. I listen now. I root from an old guy. You know as a fifty-three-year-old his krant. Yeah it's funny most Patriots fans that I know and that includes the my friend Chris Brockman across the way here Who You met when when you've been around is that Is that Brady going? Tampa was just like okay. You were kind of kind of expecting Tom to not not return. Even those who might have held out for thinking he would never leave but gronk going to. That's the issue that that's that's the one thing that Glock comes back and he's going to join Tom there and at the reunion happens. They're not a new England. That's the tough swallowed to to take right there. It is but I think that You know I think that Rob Gronkowski. I really think that he was not thinking about going back in and and playing. I really do think that he was retiring. I I would love to know you know. I talked to find out what the inside story was. I mean The one of the reasons he's gone Tampa and course correct me. If I'm wrong is that they don't think that he's GonNa have to do as much blocking as he was going to have to do. In the in the Patriots offense is that a is that a real reason. You think which I don't think so I just think that He wasn't feeling physically up to it or wasn't physically mentally up for being Going through the you know the the rigors of a season where everybody's aiming for his knees and below or his waist to his knees and go through another Bella check crucible. I don't think he was up for that now that he's feeling a little bit better. He misses the game he sought and TB twelve. Calls him up and says how about you. Come with me down to Florida Like everybody retires. He spent some time in Florida. But you with me and with areas and and and off we go. I think the answer was thousand percent. Yes that's what I. Yeah I we were interested. I'm I'm writing so in addition to acting and I am doing this new show. Snow peers served on Sunday night on. Tnt at at nine o'clock but I'm also writing in running the show. I'd written on shameless for a bunch of years and then Got More into the writing and now I'm running a show that's going to be done in Atlanta the James Harrison. We just cast to former Nfl players in this show. Okay Miles birth and James Harrison. And they're both playing wrestler in the show. It's about an independent wrestling promotion in Atlanta not in Atlanta in Georgia. And the show starring Stephen a Mallon Alexander Ludwig. We're just stoked while here's the thing James Harrison is when when you pay him you need to pay him in cash in an envelope. Will you do that for everybody? I will do that. I listen I was apparently what he's used to on occasion. If you follow Games instagram. You know that he works out quite a bit. I'm not going across. James Harris. No understood understood so so again the manor on occasion. Apparently there's an envelope painting Tim Cash could be. He's got to report it to the. Irs that's all I care about. I just want I want the road to be paved GONNA want the military to be able to be funded. That's all there you go Mike o'malley and before we do turn to Snow Pearson a little bit era Let's linger a little bit more on your writing creating show running abilities and what you did With Lebron James and Maverick Carter. I stars survivor's remorse did you. Did you actually sit down and work with Lebron or vice versa? At any point in time during this process I mean well I mean you say what what what I did for them. It's more what they did for me what you know. So you know. Maverick Carter who? I met Through Tom Warner I. Tom Is of course that one of the red SOx owner Liverpool soccer. May you know made his name producing television shows and I had written some stuff for him. That didn't go when he introduced me to Lebron Maverick and he said would you be interested in in writing and developing this idea. This premise that they have on what it's like to grow up in a place where you're your struggle. You come from nothing in an and then you you have success and yet all the people that you love and you cared about and you grew up in are still stuck in that place so That's where the notion of survivors more came from. Which is you know maverick. Carter is the bronze business partner. He's the one who introduced me to that phrase. I had heard of you know survivor's guilt in in something. That happens when you know a ship. Wrecker Plane Crash Live. Someone else is you. Don't know why but attaching this idea this concept to growing up in the projects and getting out and then feeling obligation to continuously throw life preservers to other people who are still there. What's different about that scenario? Is that those folks They're still there. They haven't perished. You can help them with a car. Payment with a health insurance payment with alone and it never stops and Especially if big hearted like Lebron Maverick are and so they came to me. I I wrote this show. I went down. I flew down to Miami and actually did a table. Read of the show with Agron and Maverick and And Randy on a couple of there. I think his wife's van or read a role it was. It was a real trip to be down there. Reading the script with those guys but What what I loved about working with Ron. Abbott is that they said if it's happening in the world did happen on this show and so on survivor is more than we did. Four Seasons on stars and Lebron was in an episode. Maverick was you know really involve as executive producer You Know Lebron couple times. It was great but they were very very supportive of everyone. And you know to have that kind of support. That wind at your back was a great thing for me. As a as an emerging writer. That's a look man. And obviously maverick Carter and Lebron James or are huge Obviously in their own right in their own worlds and then to to enter with you and yours and it's interesting you got you got to introduce them from by Tom. Werner owner of the Red Sox Often breaking any news to you. The reason why. Mookie Betts is a dodger. Is I think mookie. All of Tom's Roseanne money as every penny of his Roseanne money and all of John. Henry's investment dollars. It's suddenly. He's now a dodger. I think that's what he wants to like. Why are we doing on? He hasn't played. He has played game. Dodger yeah okay. Ever play games the talk. I Dunno Mike. I think that's ship sailed brother. I think that ship has sailed and Mook. He's not coming back now. He's not walking through that door. Mookie Betts and not walking through that door season this year though. He can still go back. Okay it ain't no please. You guys played this season. I do I think you know we've been talking about it quite a bit on this. Show Mike I just think that baseball at some points going to look at each other and say what the Hell Are we doing here? I know you don't trust me. I know I don't trust you. I know we have a level of mistrust and distrust. That's that that's difficult to bridge. But we're going to figure this thing out because the last thing we're going to do with everybody trying to come back to play in pandemic is throw our hands up over economics that I think is just kind ruled today at some point. Yeah and I think you know man man what I just love to have a game every day. I mean it's just so wonderful. You know baseball just every day. There's a new story and got I miss it so much. In the meantime congrats on the success of snow. Piercer already picked up for a second season. Good to see you back on the screen to brother in front of it. It's been awesome and you know anytime anyone offers you apart where you get to stand next to Jennifer. Colley things happen okay. Two things happen first thing the first thing. If you're a red blooded American male which I am you say yes I'll be there. I've wanted to be standing there. Thirty years suggest the sad thing the sad thing. What happens when you're there? Yes and the actual photos come back in the forties comes back. You can't believe how hideous you look really. I mean it's like it's like being Ghalem in Lord of the rings a there's like a promotional photo for standing next to her and I thought to myself you know what I'm just like if you do what you can you work with what you can rich. I know you look into various the you know what I may not be host a handsome creature. But I'm looking okay. Then you go to work and you wish somebody had said to you. Were terrible your terrible. You ill you just. What is it you meet? I understand how people go get plastic surgery because you stand Jennifer colley. Who's like a model? She stunning booking. Yes he stunningly nice person and she's massively talented and I'm like rack next to tell you where we're looking at you right now. Devito is also a handsome man. It's putting talented as well had. But you've got you've got a nice suit. Your beard is trimmed Mike so I'm GonNa Great. I'm a great stage in my life. Rich this is why okay. There's so many the the the the great villains now get to be this great senators and Congressmen and people and and people that I can play for the rest of my life. That are just You know little bit overweight. Little Bit I can't even say thinning the hair. I mean no hair. It's just we we we get to be those people that had a different aspect to Other people's attractiveness you stay X. To me your stunningly attractive. And that's the that's what I bring to projects now. Hey Mike let's just a wrap it up with the old caddyshack line. You're a tremendous slouch. Don't worry you're a tremendous tremendous. Well Rich I look forward to get your kid at the top of the lineup. Back in the at the mighty mighty will will she warriors grinding i. I was told this morning that I've taken over a hosting job but you did about eighteen years ago. You hosted hot stove COOL MUSIC FOR PETER. Gammons back in Boston long time ago all night long time ago. That's and by the Way Peter. Gammons can shred by the way. He's a great guitar can try ban boy. That's when you are the rick when I used it why do it came real? So they pass the baton to me. Because you're you're smart and you're you're in Los Angeles but we have We actually have an event on January eighteenth at him and Theo Epstein For their foundation to meet name later they're going to do a bit Online so we were talking about you. This morning is compelling radio. Let's up good brother. You're you're you're you're blast avenue around and again congrats on. Snow piercer again nine eastern on TNT on Sunday nights. Thanks the time you'd be we'll be in touch back catching that's Michael Mallon. By way he truly is one of the more sought after guys. If you want to launch a show you WANNA ride it you WANNA produced in certain way. That's the guy. There's a lot of people who would knock on his door in this town and now the Rick East. He's given James Harrison a paycheck. That is amazing. Those written that was just teed right up back with your phone calls to wrap up the week and this Friday man. Mookie wanted all time Warner's Roseanne money but by the way not only The the new but the original all of his new integrator should gave him rugby's back in Australia. Russia is that right. Yep that's roll man. So how about that? David Aldridge called it a virtual certainty that they're going to give it a try with the NBA K. July. Maybe not a single. There's not a single person in the NFL. That I talked to like. I don't know we'll talk to you. We're not you know. Even yesterday. Both Mike Zimmer in any read Roy were football coaches. I mean. They're playing Phil. There's not there's not a single one that's saying right. Now it's all with the undercurrent of we don't know what the virus is. GonNa look like. It's five months but where we're we're we're going to give it a try. Baseball's got thank God. They signed that and I know I shouldn't say this like this because I know there's a ton of NFL players who I respect immensely. Who thought they should not have signed it but now may I'm wondering if a lot of them are be like. I'm glad we signed that. Now that the pandemic and Covid nineteen head and the finances are all over the place right now that at least they signed something with certainty. So we're all we're all for certainty in the most uncertain times of our lifetimes. We may never live another year more uncertain right now. What's happening at two forty four eastern time twenty three twenty four twenty five seconds right about this this morning like when my son is old enough to eventually ask me about what was going on when I was born right? What do I tell him? I that in those times you did your best to represent him and your family name by working and going on the rich. Eisen show and saying he didn't want to go to space because you'd be bored literally. That's what you should tell you. What what event do I start with? The SPACEX launch that. You were totally totally in curious about in second to me. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM. It was a blast watching. What was it like playing Payton? Great see Tom and I have watched them fill entire who they're saying wanted to bring his three. Us Open trophies with him in the car in the parking lot and has anyone at him carry on. And then we're going to ask you wanted the other. I got scrapped so I had a couple of more time guitar tiger but when the golf didn't start out so well we kind of call an Omaha. Just didn't feel that was appropriate that I heard you talking about Tyson. Holyfield fight the one where he blows. And what's your recollection areas night in my sports activity ever in my life. Believe what I was seeing you know. They stopped that fight a couple of times before. I think he was biting before. Yes when he spits out I was close enough to say what what is he eating. Just look you spit out his gum com. That's low. Let's let's Lo I can't believe you wouldn't WanNa go into space. What do you do when you get there? I WanNa go to the moon. What do you mean? What do you do when you get out of every possible reason to not going to space? Fear of boredom is the top of your list after thirty seconds of being like. Wow that's the earth that's cool then. What van what. Then what? What look the job? Chris is this astronaut. Mark Kelly on the rich Eisen. Show it Greg. I four in the space between two thousand one and twenty eleven built a million town not one second of four dom he would love every and be honest with you. We on our show really got a big kick out of your setup at home. There's a stairmaster there right behind him. Okay also did for myself linter not I get on that thing and talks to me. We have a relationship. What does it say? What does it say the last fifteen minutes? It's not good really talks dirty community. It's terrible I can't say that on on radio here now the fun week here and done serious and Youtube I gotta be honest with you again. We're five and a half years into the history of this show. Chris and I think new top five moment is flexing with captain. Mark Kelly. Yeah to refute your notion that going to space is not after thirty seconds. Something you'd Really WanNa Endeavor because what I what are you GonNa do. Are you GONNA fill your bill your tires? They built a space station getting him to refute. That really was an an excellent flex on my part and then him flexing when he comes on I was like well am my four missions and one hundred space all my God mean. We took thousands of pounds of space. Okay we got oh man. That was really pretty funny every watch does you know the funniest thing he said though was that the world was round. Did you knows through round the world. Well I think he was talking to Kyrie Irving right there. Career having the world's the flatter there's TJ social media. Grandma's Jefferson chomping. And Right. They're very good. F The disembodied voice of of our of our Social Media. Gran maistre and a great job as always TJ on our on our our instagram feed. Check it out at richeisenshow. It's he he is curing all weekend. Long it's amazing especially when they're sports on the weekend to you know let's go to Orlando Florida where we could actually have an NBA season. What's up Dale Rich Two quick things could just on. Espn nurse showing like history of this is ESPN. That I watched the other day in your commercials. Obviously in there. Yes I thought question. You're coming out of his stalling. Here you flush and then you come out with your hands you know. You're touching on a sore subject. Dale Dell Dell. Are you doing this to mess with me? Have you seen we talk about this before you really wondering about Noah to tell the story quick? Well what's your other sub thing you got on your mind about Roy. Halladay of specialty. Yup You allowed me to call in the day after the plane crash and I got very upset. Big Fan of his perfect game. Ten years ago in Miami and Just this Dang is a little tough thinking about how happy I was then and how it ended for him. Well if it's tough than Than enjoy the story. I'm about to tell then Dale because you brought it up and I will be watching that The DOC Holliday stuff. Tonight for All right. Here's the story come on. Here's the story that make sure you follow up with the Yankees Day. I will tell whole thing so the sportscenter commercial you referring to Dale is me. Stuart Scott is washing his hands and he's just as if he's just finished going to the bathroom. Ras using the bathroom to wash his hands. You hear a flush I come walking out of a stall. You hear another flush out a jockey walks you hear third flush and a horse walks behind. Stewart. Who kind of makes this look like. That's strange and brisk goes back to his business of washing his hands so I said to the director. Look I don't feel like I have an ego but one thing I must do in this commercial is I'm must if I am coming out of the stall. I must also wash my hands before leaving. The frame have to do it and the director goes. I understand what your problem is but for the commercial to work in the amount of time that we have we cannot. Have you walk up? Wash your hands and leave. You just have to believe the frame. I am like you have no idea. What SORT OF CRAP? I'm going to hear if I come across somebody without that sense of hygiene no pun intended about the crap that I'm going to hear all right so then the sound Guy Mike. Your one of your colleagues walks up to me and he goes look. The most important thing is really we both know is that your hands are clean before you go into the can and I say to him. What the hell does that mean done to this? Nobody's GonNa look at this and go you know so. I decided to put my hands in my pockets when I left the stall so people will understand in some form of protests. But I've been forced to do this. Dale cut to commercial airs mayor weeks later. I'm on the field at Yankee Stadium prior to a world series game for ESPN radio and somebody screams out. Hey I said why you wash your hands when you go to the CAN. That happened and here you call the late. May Twenty twenty commercials all the gin joints I did for. Espn you walk into that one. Well I thought it was odyssey new. Thank you dale. That's what we call a walk very phenomenal those. This is sportscenter. Commercials we coordinate. I recorded that. I haven't had time to watch it but I guess somebody a friend of mine said that they have the Kerri strug commercial. Did they run that one? 'cause it's versus one ever did. I was there for about two weeks and I remember when I walked when I when I got there. They were shooting The don't walk commercial. The don't walk commercial. You remember the the hands across America sort of mocking commercial that. They did where they they sang. Don't walk you remember that I don't know I have to look at that one now where you know. Oh the song song I got it. Yep kilborn was all over that and I thought they'll never put me in a commercial but they did which was Kerri. Strug fresh off of the ninety six Olympics being carried off by Bela Karolyi and she got she got her mom was was on the set and she. I don't think he was very happy that her daughter is passed off from one guy to the next so I think I forget I received Kerri strug from Kief and handed her off to Larry. Beal or Carl ravaged the ultimate gag was she was eventually passed off to the Michigan State Spartan Mascot the commercial this don't Walk Commercials. Really Fun. It's great it's great little pennies in this very funny more the Marlin Gary Miller but the one I get all the time was the Louvre commercial. Where you know. It's a commercial break. And he comes in. He's like my corner man and just cut me. Cut Me Lou and you know. Just give him some tea. Give them some tea and I extend my pinky which was an ad Lib my part and I just say you know. The teleprompters moved to fast. I can't keep up. Which was which was the script and They said to Louvre. Just work him over. Like you're working somebody in the corner and he would slap me. Hillary did slapped me. But the beeps that you hear in the commercial are because he would not because he was doing his thing he could not could not would not could not deliver enough safe for Work Language. Genaro for them to use even five seconds without having a belief out though good memory lane strolled. End this week off man. We'd thank everybody for joining today. Tom Verduci David Aldridge. Mike Pereira and Michael Malian you especially. I know the world feels like it's spinning off its axis if there's any way that we could help with that by putting it back on the access access than them. We'll be here for you. We'll be here for you Monday. I hope that the weekend is happy. Healthy and safe and that justice and peace are found eight four four two zero. Four rich will chat with you on Monday. Hey Hey hey this. Nfl Hall of Famer Rate Lewis. I'm excited to announce the launch of my new podcast every day. Crignis Ray Lewis podcast. I'll be talking with friends. Family members ole teammates athletes celebrities moguls. And guess what I'll be talking to you. Listen this is all in the search for everyday greatness. So I'm asking you to come along with me on this ride down. Low new episodes of everyday greatness. Ray Lewis podcast every Friday on spotify. Aw Apple podcasts. Pot has one dot com. It's not what you have. It's what's inside that actually inspires greatness.

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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one sports net reduction available on Apple podcast and podcast one. It's the greatest time of the year. You're in sports. Nfl College football MLB NBA NHL. What else can a sports fan as for? All the action you want is every day at fun place and one place only online dot. Ag Sign up today for a free account at online DOT AG. Use Promo Code podcast. One for your fifty percent or not welcome. Bonus don't sit on the sidelines anymore. Get in on all this incredible Actionaid Bet online dot. Ag That's Bet online dot ag your online sportsbook experts hour number. Three of the rich Eisen show is on on the air I just broke down the way that the bills and the Texans literally broke down in the last two minutes plus of their relation of the first wildcard game of the week and putting the wild and wild card to say the least Eight four four zero four rich number two. We'll take your phone calls in the middle of this hour. We're GONNA take the call of Mike Pereira to finish the our former head of NFL NFL rafts. Now the lead Analyst of rules analyst of Fox and the NFL on Fox. I mean. There's so much to talk about here. The illegal blindside side block that hobbled the bills attempt at Trying to win the game in overtime. That's something to talk about. Also oh how in the world does the head referee the top official on the field and Tony Karenni Rule De'andre Carter flipping the ball all to him clearly. Having no intention of running the ball back deep in the end zone touchback just walking the ball towards him in flipping the bottom. How does he interpret? That is anything other than he has. No intention of running the ball out. And he rules it a fumble and recovery for a touchdown for the bills and then we find out that is the actual correct interpretation of the rule but officials who are there on the sideline part of the officiating group. Say Hey man. Let's just have common sense here. He's clearly not running it out. Okay after further review. It's a touchback bills. Fans want answers on that saints fans want an answer on why that wouldn't be instant Pass interference on Carl Rudolph. At the end of the game. The game winning touchdown touchdown in in New Orleans Troy Aikman our number one call that he would say that's pass interference and I'll tell you what that's exactly the type of play that L. River on the current head of NFL refs told all of us in the media that that would no doubt be reviewed. Doesn't matter what time of game it is. What game it is? That's GONNA be reviewed and and and I'm I'm sure that I saw stuff that he showed all of us at the NFL network media symposium over the summer that would be ruled offensive pass interference through replay replay no flag on the field one would be instituted through replay. That's exactly it looked exactly like what Kyle Rudolph did the cloudy hit on Carson Carson Wentz. How does that not get a flag in college football even without a flag they would've buzzed down and say let's take a look at targeting climate in thrown out of the game? My two cents. That's on that that's obviously not something going on In the NFL these days or should that be instituted. Should we buzzing from Park Avenue in the same way the college football buzzes in Saint. Hey I think we saw something that wasn't called on the field. That should be head to head helmet. Fifteen yard contact or potentially essentially objectionable and if we have time with Pereira because a lot of this stuff there's be back and forth as I always like to have it with Mike. We gotta hit. How about my grateful using the same clock shenanigans that belichick used on the jets? Jets midseason talking about a loophole that needs to be closed where you can certainly take false starts with a running clock a punt formation and bleed the clock down as much as you possibly want until five minutes to go then. You can't pull that anymore. Burned over two minutes in the same way that the NBA used to have those hacker De'andre rules outside of the final two minutes of a quarter until they they closed that loophole right then they basically Khalid so yeah it's just a bad look for the NFL would happen. I mean but Bella checks going nuts on. The New England sideline thinking that it should be ruled somehow unsportsmanlike conduct docked. And it sure looks like it's the same thing that Bella check used on the jets earlier in the season right looked like it looks like it. So the young Jedi in able at chewed up over two minutes. Derrick Henry how amazing was he the other night and so many people are surprised. Hey Hey right before the half. They took the lead fourteen thirteen. They kept running. When you've got you know usually throw it to get points before the end of the half when a two minute drill not on your big play offense offenses and running back now on a guy who can derrick? Henry concern three yards into thirty and he can turn a sixty yard game in two hundred yard game. Unlike anything we've seen right and Tannehill did not only to make the one throw on third down late in the game had seventy one yard and when we first came on the air on the NFL network in two thousand and three they just just split up the day just realized the divisions the year before in two thousand two when they came up with the eight divisions right we just come on the air and it was the first I think it was the first full year of a real division. Two thousand three season man. That's when the titans and the Ravens used to go out in the AFC central man. I know now F C central you think a browns and steelers and bengals back in the day but towards the very end of the AFC central the ravens came into being in the Ravens. First rivalry was with the titans in. Eddie Eddie George will be staring down. Ray Lewis vice versa. We're going to get any Georgia in the show this week. He's the first person I thought of when Titans v Ravens hit. I texted him. I'm like dude I gotta get you on. He's GonNa GonNA come on. We just got to figure out the day to the first year on your man used to be Titans Ravens every year man every year Okay let's get Chris Brockman news update brought to you as always by our friends at Honda. Go for Christ the report of the day's news from the world of sports and entertainment someone who is not a journalist or news man by any definition of the word whatsoever. Chris Brockman brought to you by the Honda. Hr V. Stupendous Lee Stylish available with all wheel drive the HIV's ready to team up for your next adventure so hurry to your local Honda dealer today. Christopher your top story from this morning Cowboys GonNa Hire Mike McCarthy. As their new head coach former packers coach one hundred twenty five seventy seven and two who in his career ten and eight in the postseason from ESPN just moments ago. Todd Archer McCarthy going to get a five year contract Jason Jason Garrett's. Last deal is five years. Thirty million so McCarthy was making more than that in his final years with the packers so look for five years upwards of six million dollars per season for the the old toll taker from Pittsburgh. Pa Man made good. Edward are also saying how he asked a team source with. The cowboys needed their next head coach to provide that was lacking under Jason Garrett. His source told him three critical items. Fear Accountability Woody and disciplined. I just don't understand why it took a week. Why couldn't they just come out last Sunday and say we're done and just like every other team what was going on what was happening? Begging glazes reported another glazes report because again. I'm I'm in the middle of a four hour show show or our half on Saturday yours funny we had curt Menefee here on Friday show and I had a lot of fun with him. Based on that text exchange and Mike to Rico sparked and so We were texting back and forth some colleague of ours. Jerry Madel on Put us together together on a text exchange and he's like hey great segment with you guys enjoyed it and You know have a good weekend and I'm like well since I'm the only one on this text chain whose wow couldn't let Saturday show damn I did it again. He didn't let it go but glazes report during for yesterday was that Garrett was trying to lobby for his job still. Yeah so if you need if you love the guy so much. Don't you set them free. I mean I would love to know what was that ninety hour period before Edward or on Thursday night came out with an oddly if unofficial official report from Dallas was a Dan Hansie's who tweeted out. I can't wait for the five thousand words. Seth worker awesome piece about last week in a sense. Yeah yeah well. That last week was a story to be found. And I'd love to know but for the moment Mike McCarthy move. We'll see how it works. I want you went old school. You went Green Bay when a guy who's won a championship and you're building. I guess Randall Cobb stays. That's what that means. I don't know I I mean we'll see what happens okay. Another thing we're going to be waiting on for quite some time here. Probably the next couple of months Tom. Brady's future with the New England patriots. They lost on Saturday. Of course Tennessee. Bill Belichick had his exit meeting with the media. Yesterday in Foxborough had this to say about Brady's possible awesome future of bill obviously given top raise age. There's been a lot of talk about his future. Do you have a timeline in your mind. And you'd like to sit down and do you have Would you like to get clarity on his situation. Lifetime New League year starts. I'm honestly look I mean I know it's out there just like a lot of the things out there. I mean we could bring up fifty questions just like that one and I told you what my state state is on that and so you can ask all fifty of them and it's going to be the same answer fifty times been. We've been working on Tennessee. It's twelve hours after the game. Not We're GONNA talk a lot of things about the future because it's not not prepared to talk about fifty questions. I'm sure you can name. Fifty guys fifty coaches. I mean there's plenty of you can talk about anything you want. But in the future. And they're all questions that need to be answered at some point in time by Organization on myself by the coaching staff by some of the players but those are collective decisions that are not made by one person who collectively and there's a lot of time a thought and effort and communication the indication that goes into the and now's not the time licorice that I have just one one. Tom Says he wants to come back and play. And then the same the answer that I gave you a again. There's here the moving parts moving parts. Tom Some are KK. Robert K kraft. Bill I know you say that because he wanted to go Garoppolo. It's a different story now. This this is now going to be a forty three year. Old Three Two different story. And they don't have they. Don't have Garoppolo there. Jared Garoppolos not walking through the door. Jared stems not that Guy Code Kesslers not that guy. No the question is with New England. Drafting acting as high as twenty three. Everybody that's a rarity can they. Would they move up. Would they be the one to call Bob Quinn and Patricia and the and the lines and say we're going to give you are I I this year and we'll give you our. Are you know first next which is again. This is whacky stuff. They don't usually do this stuff and he he because he sat down and with. NFL films for that. Hbo Doc About Him and saving and he knows all about two and is that and he does it emigrate right and then you go ahead and do it. And that's the way you handle it. But that's April when you want to talk about the mechanics of this. The new league year has been pushed back usually. It's the first week of March. They pushed back to the eighteenth. Oh is the final day. The of the two thousand Nineteen League year his contract voids after the final so boom free agency heads and if he does not if he's not signed going into free agency he carries a thirteen and a half million dollar cap charging twenty twenty. If he's not resigned for New England. Yeah so this is what I mean by. He has the Hammer. Amer like if if you don't sign them it's going to cost you all that stuff. Now they trade them. That's how much it is too. So when he says I WANNA keep playing that as a hammer and the question is you know who would want him and what what would what do you get back and and you have to make these decisions Asian. Certainly if you know Bella check sits down says I got five years to go here. Tom Might be a good bridge quarterback. It's amazing I think that but if he does have two years left if you only WANNA play two years if your quarterback saying I want play two years no matter what your age is your bridge quarterback because you got to okay. We'll play you do but we we know who's after you right. So could it be the bridge quarterback for the chargers would philly live Goto a new England. I mean there's so much speculation and rumor and Innuendo and crazy and it's again it's up to tom this. Would Tom WanNA PLANO JERSEY. And if so where where would he and his family would be happy being. Because that's a very big consideration. That's why bills like to go in the lock. Going on crazy men are. Let's hear from to announce this morning Alabama quarterback that he is GonNa Forego his senior year and enter the twenty twenty NFL draft. Here's that announcement. And then he also talked about how his hip is doing. My love for the University of Alabama are our coaches are fans and my teammates has made this especially hard for me. I've had the advice and counsel my parents my family and coaches and going through you a thorough analysis of the of the alternatives and without further ado with lots of prayers thoughts and guidance. I have decided that I'll lv the clearing and entering the twenty four draft okay entering the NFL in the NFL draft okay. It's still think he's going top five all right he also talked about. He was asked about his his hip. And how he's doing and what the timetable might be. I'm optimistic that I'd be able to play you know this this upcoming season But you know I think for me right now. I'm more worried about getting better soon as possible yet. It's unique situation for sure or if my hip I mean a lot of the guys you know. The general managers the owners that I've got to talk to look at this injury as like a knee injury. Almost although it's not really the biggest thing they want to do is to see that we can be back to how we were prior to danger. This is a decision that I'm going to have to live with you know and so I made it and I mean I'm good with yeah I mean again. The downside is what that you can't go and you've signed a professional contract and you can't play football or you can't go and you get no money for it or you could have gone if you waited a year. I mean that's as much much of a risk in not as a guarantee is the current one just focus on getting better again. Go to combine. Show everybody your medical records that you told. I'm reading the articles here that he got a good medical report. Show everybody that. Knock it out of the park in the interview room do everything else and every owner is going to be and every coach that wants you and there's GonNa be tons of them are going to be staring at their medical staff sang. Tell me something good they should. They should make that the The musical choice. Tell me something good. That's that's the song is going to be so good. Tell me something good and the lines are in the catbird seat because if the kid is healthy they're sitting third overall. We could take them or not. Who wants them? Because you know the dolphins are going to take him and if we don't take become then you know the giants are GonNa make trade so the dolphins might have to move up and then I mean there's so much smoke that can come out of the state of Michigan from the lines based on this decision. Asian that's common. You have another item over there. Christopher just a couple of MBA things Quickly Wade Phillips is not going to be back at grams defensive coordinator Tater and a couple of NBA things Blake Griffin's visiting IT specialists in La considering season ending knee surgery of course now with the Pistons and Dwight White Howard. Having a great resurgent year here in Los Angeles with the Lakers is going to participate in the slam dunk contest. That's fun all star week in Chicago. The I'm Komo here for the image Rehab of two I'd Howard. It's been going very well. been going very well having a great year for La. That's an is. That's the news right there by not a newsman. Not a newsman very well done Eight four four two zero four rich number two. Hey there was one post game aim soundbite. That was so moving. Its so terrific. It just shows you the humanity of the sport own that good guys who loved the game will eventually be rewarded. Even if they're not rewarded with the win I will. We'll play that for you if you missed it. Mike Prayer is going to be joining US shortly as well. I just ran through everything that I'm GonNa hit with Mike. That's coming up next on this and still to come on this edition of the rich Eisen show. What's what's happening? Everybody this is. The official Lakers podcast. I'm your host Mike Trudell superpower to be your flanked by Aaron. Our soule you ready to go. I'm ready the Lakers will be top ten defense on your shot to get a team that has to star or to supervising with Lebron. Ad Can sometimes camper outlet. I think they're both good candidates for. Mvp I really like the way that this team. It just feels to be around the. It's a it's a very clear message. That's two stars in the navy and its everybody else on board the relationship that is developing between those two off the court and the court cohesiveness on the court I think in this case is a special case that the two of them will enhance each other. As opposed you taking away from each other insured or rates. Subscribe and leader of you available in Apple. PODCASTS and podcasts I think a quick call Andrew in Ohio called in what's Go- i Andrew. What's going on brother mature? Eisenhower you today. I'm good what's going on. What's what's on your mind you know thinking about two of As he made his announcement I was sitting physical therapy. And and what I saw was a man a young man making a bad decision. I was synthetic therapy because I have the exact same injury he has and I had sixteen November. Stop a Kit Surgery. The fixed to two breaks in a tear in my labor them in it. It's very difficult to move around around. I saw he was still on a crutch yeah. I was on a crush up until last week. And this happening. mid-november watch one of the best doctors in the world to do it Epic Cleveland Clinic and it is very painful very time consuming thing to do well Andrew I'm only hoping for his sake. AAC that That he is got a a little bit quicker Or more I guess supernatural if you will healing powers based on his his way and and hope that you have a quicker recovery than the one that seemed to be on right now I I'm Solomon doctor's orders and do the best and I wish him the best I think one on your additional college would help him not not for the education so much but you know to let his body help himself appreciate the call Andrew. Thanks for the call a look. We won't know but that said neither do NFL teams NFL. Teams will find out. If he's on a crutch like saying early April he still can get paid millions. He had to do what he had to do. As far as I'm concerned same air do it now. You know it just again. It's it's remarkable how the healing powers might work for somebody WHO's obviously a one of a an above average athlete. Let's put it that way. I don't know I don't know what Andrew's personal situation is right there either so after. I'm watching the eagles game and Eagles seahawks Game Carson. wentz gets hit. I still think and again prayer is GonNa join us that that's an illegal hit from a cloudy in college football. He get adjusted for it but outcomes Josh mccown on who I've gotten know through twitter. We follow each other. I haven't really spoken very much in our career my career or his just a really good dude. Great Guy who's had a lot of opportunities backing up a lot of opportunities to potentially start that got lost because of injury on his own right remember when he was starting for the browns and got blown up by the jets dive into the my gosh and the jets gave him an opportunity and he retires and he's like I'm done philly calls him up when he's on. Espn we need you. Backup Carson wentz whence goes through an amazingly healthy season for him despite the mash unit that surrounds the rest of them on the offense of the injury bug finally bit Wentz yesterday because of that hit by cloudy and outcomes mccown. And I'm thinking to myself. Has He ever played in a playoff game. I went and I looked at his stats. Sure Enough I ever playoff game. Who would have thought it? It's really unbelievable. How the football? God's work sometime and just to give you an idea of how difficult it is to leave the game. How much the love of the game really means to players? This was does Josh mccown after the game yesterday in Philadelphia. Yeah I'll probably reflect on that later Again asking you know probably with a sour taste But but thankful thankful Just you know Wife and my family moved around a lot and been been been there for me and so mom and dad and so to go out there and get to play in a playoff game will special and and I can't think that enough from from the sport and it was it was a heck of a Ri- left it all out there. I know that much This it's different playing at forty now so your body talks to you a lot and and You know I think I think more than anything it was that was I think I reflect on that later but it was fun to be out there for sure. Good Josh mccown is GonNa join us on the rich Eisen show tomorrow so as Pat McAfee and so is Joe Montana. Let's on Tuesday. Show take a break when we come back Mike Pereira former head of NFL refs and current lead rules analyst on Fox so so much to talk to him about from this playoff week. And don't you dare move. That's next on the rich Eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors and all of you you great listeners for supporting this podcast certainly couldn't do this show without either of you. I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show page at podcast one dot com clicking on the support this podcast button. And there you'll see all of my wonderful sponsors that help make this show possible. So thank you for downloading subscribing again of course supporting now back to the show. Welcome back to the rich Eisen show with chicken. Our poll question brought to you by capital. One which is reimagined banking offering savings and checking encountered no fees or minimum is one of the nation's best savings rates capital one. What's in your Wallet Chris? What is currently leading our polar best game from wild card weekend neck and neck? Today titans upset the Patriots Tree. It's forty percent. Viking stunned the saints in overtime thirty eight percent. And what a way for it to finish the Saints Third Straight Year that their playoff game ends in a loss on the last playoff game. This one was a kyle rudolph touchdown in overtime from Kirk cousins that could have been ruled. Pass interference offensively through replay. But it was not Mike Pereira former former head of NFL. refs for all those years. When I was doing the official review segment on NFL total axes with him now? I Fox rules analysts trump For the National Football League on Fox joining us here on the show. How are you Mike? Well I'm just trying to figure out of the Idaho potato balls or do you actually when you go into the store order by your Idaho potatoes and you stop at the Big Red Box and get a movie rental on your way out Mike. Look look at you. After after further review hi Taibbi ballgames again. That's only forty exactly after further review. I like it. I'm great by the way. He's terrific terrific. Let's get into so much to get into right now was that offensive. Pass interference yesterday. So then why why why was and then. Why is it and to me? It should have been called on the field but does it or did it rise to the level of what they're looking for in replay that that would allow them to come in and look at it and put offense you pass interference on the play answered. No I have to do is follow all year long. What they've been doing doing and you see that there is a different standard that they use for replay And it's why the rule is so screwed up but they're consistently enforcing let's think uh remember last week. Seattle San Francisco. I mean my gosh. There was blatant pass interference on San Francisco at the end of the game in the end zone and it wasn't called and it wasn't reviewed And that that that play right. There haven't been reviewed and hadn't been called New Orleans would have had by the way a first round bye but it didn't rise to the level that they felt it needed to rise to and that's why it's a lose lose rule and they you gotta get rid of it or figure out some way to to alter it to where it makes more sense to anybody. I talked to Zimmer and you will before for the game and they were complaining to me about the rule and how it hurt them so bad when they played green bay their first time around while they're probably not complaining now but It's just a bad rule. The thing is again is they. They played Green Bay. Let me make sure I get this correct. They play in week two. It Changed Mike. There's no question to change. Because the way it was described five to all of us in the media during the summers at something like this call and certainly like the one at the end of the San Francisco. Seattle game was absolutely going to be a a flag installed by replay. And have you been able to suss out. What's change? Well I mean to me it like after week ten. I mean they didn't change anything. I mean I mean it was. It was almost absurd and and then it started to tighten up a little bit and everybody thought that okay once we get into the play offs Or we're in week sixteen and seventeen. They're gonNA make calls that are either pass interference or not pass interference. That's the way they're going to look at it in replay. But they haven't I mean you you look at it and and you again you see what happens in in San Francisco with the Seattle game. They're not gonNA rely on replay to call the penalties. Unless it's agreed GIS unless it compares to what happened in New Orleans a year ago and you know and honestly rich. I feel bad for for our river on because I don't even think he knows what the standard is. And and and when you put a rule in that says that you want something called one way on the field and another way when you look at it and replay I mean he was doomed to failure right off the bat and And while they hoped that they could survive vives through the play offs and not have him not have this rule. Be a focus. Well guess what WH- around one wildcard. It's a focus so pretty pretty hard to say to a coach if I'm out river on and and I think he made a huge mistake with his pool report when he said there wasn't enough for a foul I think he brought brought double controversy on himself. Because it's offensive. Pass Interference Rudolph. Big Defender is smaller. The push to the chest create separation And you know I I think if you're going to be honest you gotta say Sean Payton Yep you know it was offensive pass interference but not big enough for me to stop the game and call and you go. Are you kidding me. I mean this is. This is how bad that rule is Mike. Pereira here on the rich Eisen show. Let's move to later in the afternoon. The clowney hit on Wednesday the legal or not. Yeah I do I think it is. We were just talking about it. you you know cloudy and to go back to history. But you've probably talked about that. You know he knocked holes out of the game in week. Sixteen last year with a helmet shot into the sternum which cost them forty thousand dollars and it was called roughing the passer to me now. Different situation because winces become a runner. But he's going to the ground almost to the ground And and he hits him. I'm in the head and and I know it's it's not technically late but when you do go to the head and the interesting thing when I watched that play over and over over again to me. I'm slow motion replay. Didn't make it look that bad but in real time you can see him drop the head and take your shot and you know. I think it's bowel now. Certainly not gonNA keep once in the game just because it was a foulland if the foul got called. But I do think it's I do think it was a cheap shot. You you think there is any sort of stomach for the lack of a better phrase Org Or desire in the NFL to institute what college does no flag on the play. But guess what we're buzzing down. That's a helmet to helmet and we're going to take a look at it. What do you think? Well I mean you know my proposal which I which we did in the you know no the extinct af was you. Let this Guy Judge get involved in pass. Interference calls or no calls in the last five minutes of the game players safety at anytime during the game and and I still believe I'd like to see that if you're if you're a number one priority is player safety if something theme is missed like that and and we see them a lot where maybe it's a major facemask that that the guys don't see Let let the Sky Judge for lack of a better term get involved and put the penalty on or just as important. Let them take it off. I mean if they call a blatant face mask and it turns out he he didn't have the mascot was the collar in the front. Then take it off but you know to me. I think you make a huge change. I'd love to see him. Make a huge change range and make it make it be more about player safety than it is pass interference because that should be more important. Move through the rest of the weekend with Mike Pereira a former MM ahead of NFL refs Now lead rules analyst for the for the NFL and college football on Fox. And I put the word lead in there just to definitely get under Dean Blandino skin right there. Mike appreciate that. Make sure I tell you just you. Just you know He. But he's not heap owned it in. He founded in from. We don't know where he is. He's an undisclosed location in California. We assumed he might be. You might be conditioning for dancing with the star testing. I love it Six fifty sixty going overtime bills driving trying to get a field goal to win it. Cody Ford it's called for an illegal blindside inside blocked at absolutely hobbles. The bill's final offensive possession of the game. What you think of that call? I don't like the call. I mean you know food on the show that we just did when he called in you know he says technically you know By the book. That's a foul and I and and come on. I mean look I say screw the technicality of the rule. I mean that's not the way that this rule was set up. It's not the thing that the committee committee wanted call. This one of these unintended consequences looked the rule. Says there has to be forcible contact. This rule was brought in to to really get rid of the D.C leaders that came on changes that possessions or punt plays. I mean th th th. He didn't lead with the shoulder of the forearm or the helmet. Commit to the head or neck area I mean I again using some common sense There you just there's just not enough force it. There's no player at risk of injury from that block and and I think the committee has to look at this and say let's just make this like Illegal blocks below the waist waist Let's make this rule. Only applicable during change of possession plays after a change of possession or during kick place and that's when the cleaners happened. Not when it's a running play that's almost close line play technically technically the way the rule is set up. Yeah it it is a foul but technically there are a lot of things on the field that are fouls but aren't called. I mean the the tackles. Sometimes they're so far. Off The line of scrimmage but they don't call that because for one thing they wanna give the tackles a little bit of an edge when they're trying to block the speed rusher so the quarterback doesn't get hit too often so to me. I just don't think that was a call that needed to be made in another rule that I think was brought in that all of a sudden serious unintended intended consequences have have begun to appear. well by rule De'andre Carter's Flipping of the ball to Tony. Caridi in that that game to kick off the second half of the game was a ball. That just flipped an lucid. Which is why Karenni backed off and ruled it a touchdown and fumbled to begin the second half and then common sense Rules are applied. I walk me through how that worked out. Just so there are other officials officials as we know from the department. That are on the sideline at stepped into Tony and said. Hey let's be common sense here and rule that a touchback because he had no intention of clearly running it out Mike. Yeah Yeah and you know and listen. There's a lot of people that have communication the four alternates that are on the field. And let's remember that New York is dialed in to the four alternates on the sidelines. And the seven officials on the field. Look there are interpretations. It's not in the rule book and the interpretation has always been and when a player dues does something stupid like that. He's given up his right. He's given up his ability to advance and and it really. It came in and a couple of different forms where you're more likely to see it. As when you know at the end of game a defender intercepts a pass in the end zone and he goes to the ground and he pops up any. These spikes the ball well. He was never touched any intercepted the pass in as opponents in zone so the ball is still alive so technically he gave gave up the ball. But that's you know. We said you know. He declares himself down by doing that. And that's we've had that interpretation in for a long time. We said you know if you flicked the ball the official in the end zone or whatever it might be any catches it. You're gonNA leave that as live ball. Oh my God the poor official okay. Let's you gotTa playthrough go get the ball. The official gets to gets trampled. The disappointing thing is that Tony reacted the way he did. I mean He. He knows the interpretation and he knows for a number of reasons like the signal that was given that says. Hey I'm not going to advance this ball. Normally you let it hit in the end zone on. But when he flicks it to Tony Reaches over to pick up his common sense dictates that he has given himself up and Kudos to who ever went out there and got the Tony whether it was New York through the alternates or the alternates themselves to to get that corrected because you know as Dean said at one point not everything is in the rule book. If you put everything in the rule book my God the thing would be six hundred pages long instead of two hundred but that's an an interpretation that has been in there for a long time and and And at least they did get it corrected last two minutes. It's a half with you. The cat and mouse between able and Bella check with purposefully. Moving players before priest create pre-snap penalties. That would wine wine McLaughlin the actual play clock down He he's a total loophole. That I think bell check was the one who I found and exploited the early in the season against him. Is this legal. And is this something that is going to be closed. You think by the Competition Committee I if it is legal right now I think it will. I think it'll be closed and I was more amused by bill. belichick being added the officials. you know for one of his former coaches and players. Here's new and the same thing that he did back in October. Since then it's been done twice by able now it's been done by John Harbaugh The this is a copycat seacat Lee and so when when they when bill figured out this loophole. Then you know teams have copied that but I- they'll find a way to do do it. You know I like the college rule for example that if you're in punt formation and you get a delay of game and punt formation the clock automatically stays stopped it. Don't you don't rewind it So there there are some ways to clean it up and they complicate it by saying you know the delay they took a delay away from punt formation and then they took then they purposely false started. I would suspect if that happens again After they he kinda close the loophole that it'll be unsportsmanlike conduct. The second time it happens and not the third which is basically the way that the you interpret the the rule now but yeah. It's it's clearly a loophole. Then don't think as we go further on into the playoffs if a team is ahead and you're at that seven minute mark of the fourth quarter and it's your advantage to run time off the clock. You basically have the ability to run one minute and forty five seconds with which is what happened when dribbled it. You've got that ability to do that. Mike loved the time. Always appreciate it. Enjoy going to Lambeau and we'll chat down the line. Okay you got right back at you. That's Mike Pereira at Mike Pereira on twitter at Mike Pereira. Seventy seven on instagram must follow. I thought that that illegal blindside block is exactly what he said like look come on I cost the which team I think it cost the sinks a ton of field position yesterday any in a pot. Think something like that happen to look. You just don't want to have somebody running around not seen gene somebody who comes from the back and actually blow somebody up. That's the issue. This was just you know Josh Allen running out to the right cody Ford is. It's blocking. He did come. Back to the line of scrimmage but that's not that's not something that's dangerous and illegal correctly was crippling play better than the rest ref play better than the rest Reps. Stop the next team on third in eighteen. And when you've got two guys sack somebody sack somebody in the same realm of Miami Monitor when you're trying to beat Alabama score single second half point. That'd be great. You know I'm I'm trying to be consistent. Final poll results brought to you by capital one rematch banking by offering savings and checking encountered no fees Birmingham's one of the nation's best savings rates capital. What's in your wallet? Christopher what do you have over there. The Best Wildcard game of the weekend titans upsetting the Patriots. Forty forty percents okay. 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TFPP Episode 76  GW27  A million dreams

The Fantasy Plonker Podcast

1:17:58 hr | 7 months ago

TFPP Episode 76 GW27 A million dreams

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That would also be nice. Yeah we'll go out. She started doing the right. I to be out to get that money. Bless me with the vacation to buy a lottery ticket. Johnny's blessed to do. You can just do that and hope. Wabi done it then. I'll never have any money. Plays blessed me with the money to buy a lorry ticket to win the Laurie. Yeah I was actually just listening on the radio. And they're like giving away twenty nine tax free cash and also Walmart not just take twenty nine twenty nine but it also to twenty nine tax free cash twenty nine thousand pound tax relief the fouls and pound. Bit always thinking to myself. What the fuck wanting to just apply for this year because good imagine I'll wait and I'm twenty nine grand up. I wouldn't even give a penny of it. I'll just by myself a whole new and then I'll just Ama- deposit and a house okay. Anyway let's keep these Peo- your practice so you'll you'll say NIN spray shoot in pain Blasi. Connie member firms name Shumur showman songs. And then your side. Jesus Christ plays like all right. You gave me some great so it was a little bit of everything it's been F- rely AIDS and then you just wait. Why don't you want Laurie? Also an adverse twenty-nine tax free cash. Yeah that's more important than a fucking green Arrow. Well you can think name. Yeah but we're talking about F- show podcast so we need to keep Peo- less Katie F- PEO- instill talking about Shit. Well lost time. We spoke was obviously the golf episode. Guang don't ever do that again. Let's look at I. F Peo- shock on it. Yeah the episode seems go down quite well was quite Quite different dynamic in third person at the time of doing record net pod artists felt like it was in coming off because obviously we share in the market and it was. It was quite hard to do it but then I did listen to back actually for and we are quite good few comments that they enjoyed enough or maybe she went better than I thought. Maybe just in that Momon. I didn't feel like it was gone. That grandma apart because see I was on the silent partner when you don't speak cough. I am the legend all law avenue voice and I felt Lamar voice was taken away. Last part style I am back. Everyone would definitely was offset you. If you want to say something guy majors grabbed him. Watkins grabbing democracynow and being shy wouldn't even wouldn't even be in the camera view. No no sitting on the edge. It's not signed anything in this. Prompted you to say some in we had our fair share. It was me in golf. Goes in you guys had man. Sinned did have a few inputs. But I'm sorry golf. I'm happy to be back with my mark this week to give you guys some amy time. Well yeah well. Let's stop blubbering. Unless they're actually no one more now in the Manchester me up. We missed an F. Up which was a big guide about mentioned Manchester. Yes in Manchester Manchester. We'll we'll we'll begun to the will you be going to fraud. I stick for March or waste cheat in one. That's next week. Yeah what the fuck but you mean what the fuck I may. What the Fuck Bosom into the podcast? Meet Your Fellow Commune. A to be fair. I probably should because food up and people be more excited to see me than they would you were and then pay people going on about You're such good looking lead. Almo pay would say you're such good looking woman. Is it true fucking Cher? Why would be named break? We missed we have chef dementia me up as well. I was a bit got about yeah. I don't think that's a thing of say fucking idea why he's going to be completed from people from that may up to London one but hopefully some people there. I'll guy you how. What time is it first of all for? Yeah I finish work at six so we could be in London by seven but before you go and then you went on and I wanNA be there by this. Time starts at six bucks off of out me. Yeah okay well just get there quickly you can was. Y'All GonNa leave me. I've got me there I may. Let's just talk about F- Now we don't have to about the might be the guys Ahmad. Yeah Same Structure Fucking always more tame review over so shit a more fucking chuck the plunk star again Kersley. She's always group and you do that. I'll personally think but I'll tell you. Men Amy how did you do? We actually ended up on the same amount of points this week. We buy finished on the forty nine points for the week. We'll finish them full in Ondo demonise four of the. Yeah I guess IOS one is about as one. Nah never as bad as yours mores to sun trail right Morris to sawn sonitrol right in the same week. How much do you regret that nine? That you could annoys I- points from Mars if they didn't put yourself by twelve points. Yes to free transfers right now yes the. It's just it's just standard. What now this season. Yeah often I've often have anything expired for me. Loss as in the worst thing happened to me. Lost Sadism was a bencher from some wolves news when he let go a price. Captain Esguerra Rowing Gaming to law season. Yes thanks for Jamie Jackson article. We remember that that was the worst things. I still had a good season. This season has just been shit on off the sheets on off the shits on. Yeah it makes me for literally squatting over my aides and shitting on it the more I the Mona out for Katie. For that just this is just as bad. It wasn't my fault. Yeah we we want back to that fucking awful game week which was over two weeks. That was a long we. Add to Michael Moves. Didn't do Morris disown a white eight over a week for Spurs to actually play. They PLATES SEWN. Bryce yeah. I'd exact money Mama's eight point five so much ten at one point five million the bank a white white white he could somewhat meant to rise they then played. You know what is now meant to Roy's I'm gonNA bring him in. It'd be safe to do so next. I fucking injured so I think what can I do now? Yeah always midfielders to get Richarson Marsh. Ou- Bruno Fernandez always field is to get by fink walk. Let's be sensible in safe and bringing Adama toil right because he's so Chepe is planning for a warm and he's looking really good how to Faulk as that also stung me. 'cause now I'm fucking get rid of him. Did you consider the fact that he's been dropped about? Free Prim Games in the last like four weeks of hate. He didn't play because he got showed him injury. He then play the last twenty minutes of a game when he pays seventy minutes in the Europa so expect him to be fully fear for obviously noon. I went for a different system. We'll talk about that when we get to Wolfsburg anyway. I've just been shots on. But yeah forty nine points Morris four put me on forty five my only real only returners siler and train end the Stevens. Even Stevens gets me. Go to be taken off. Injured yeah subs. Haydn's lost his place for your way for. We lost his place. I'm taking monitors fours to full eleven next week or this week. I don't fucking further away than awards fucking last week. I love it a million dreams. His old it's hikes. Keep me but yeah. Who's your transfers by the way side much? Transfer was a weird. But you know you fuck. Let's move on. I'm talking very much was oh I'll disown and I'll pull wool processing and O.'s. Very unsure of this because it's just a wheat PEA CA would never ever pick to have him Ima- tame but I felt like there was a I was actually do keen on having a lot of people seem to go I mean or was getting well Steffi signing a third south happens in Pyrenean. Oh well no I went with it. I mean it wasn't the best it wasn't the West is better than throwing that one point. Forty points from him. I just feel like a ton of them that by the time it was was it. I just feel like because Armstrong ply or Jin Napa. That's the ply. Well he's done now. I'm not the only loser that Dan that I know some of you out there in the FBI community onto its on that 'cause I was watching so we've only in the same. Free points is better than no points but then one point two points these free points. Take you okay. That's enough lot. Same having a review game game position by position off the plonker tonight really afoot which also plonker. Let's do us the PONCA Branca's it the way I say on the screen. I if PEO- Lucky Fucker. Of course folks starting eleven with lunchroom. Katie and rotting doozy on the bench over the mighty goalkeeper transfer. Is it worth for place in London? Now from honest fool for someone who will be first and only Saab or white into off the game at twenty nine when we would know more about gaming thirty one and so and so now who best to get a little bit confused as to why you've got blend doozy even Hartland Galindo's e yeah. He's Glenn Doozy gained. Uzi Oh Kendall. We'll wait nine. Think we'd that you have him. No fans probably as cheap. Yeah to be honest outdo the minus four. You can get someone in plus you don't really want him. You tell him anyway. Do you want someone better than that? You want someone that might not be separate because of the plank coming your science. Iq modernist for for your Saab. It would seem that way. Yes Siamese free plays on the bench. The none applying. What if one of you starting eleven Dighton Pie? Then he's going to be fought. He needs at least one player on the bench. Not for a modest for nine. Not for a modest four. I would definitely hold us pose because they need your pie ever on the bench. Only get one or two points than you've actually lost two point so yeah maybe just done. Even if he gets six points he gains two points. If he's on the bench if it's on the bench pinch pie monitored for for someone to come on for someone that doesn't apply but you should have eleven players. It seems like you've got sorry. Not only for the minus four. He also asks moment of the season so far one transferred in song just before his injury and then bringing in Truro for modest four to get one point two taking money for hit just before we hold. He didn't hold just once. Hold for two or three weeks. And the robot away and free facing the wrath of Mrs Plonker Office. Spending all your money on the mates up and a taxi home one is. Aaron brings me back to here right now. Reading that Trauma Trauma Eddie. Not My me you need to stop seeing and Rooney. I mean that's some gain in the moment. Sorry but yeah moment of a season you know what monet out for. A hit will always hurt the most because I was having a bad start Boston. Wides positive hypes now. It's Tony around that that would stick with me forever. This sewn to try away from honest for spe was killed. Made Lot the finishing blog. He'd be not. She signed awake. That you don't care if of lost interest Polish point really. That's why I was so close to a wild card and you know what yeah imagine. If they walk out I could who have fucking go clean. Shea fucking your triple return. This is why just go got sometimes goes but then again neither because I would I would still want a wild card use leavened season and I would have picked some plas- Ryan Fraser and Callum Wilson. But yet money out for hit is definitely the moment of my season so far steven you seem of each. Fbi Shark has knocked me off my perch. Any tips to get back on. Top and golf responded is separate to live. It sought my looking forward to the running national typical golf away. So Nice Place. Nice man because we also we also had another come in about the My Advice mini-league Stephen is just be all just Mike. The transfers just pick the players. Just do what you've been doing all season and be the best that you can be Roy off good advice somewhat so no so came in and says make sure you count down from five when update in the league standings so we'll get to the mini-league up at the end popping off popping off. Well Fuck you even says that. Who says pop in Colorado people is not a common slang? But yeah looking at Steven? You got triple which is obviously going to be a bit of a problem. So maybe maybe don't listen to me. Because I have to attack you listen to. I Miss Ya listening to Steven. That's why you've been knocked off the talk. No I haven't even got Rousse. Interface of Google did have. Yeah years ago. Double Zena. And I'm sticking with double STA- a fruit blanks on avenue. Nobody's safe have you started thinking about next year's squad year after all. Who cares about this year old news spot on F Peo-? Nobody Safe Sports. All new KS gives a fuck about this season is wrought off. Yeah but we don't want edgy. Start diving into next season at all about offering amaze next season. Yeah you got to start thinking about my actual players yet but seen by good that's going to we've got to euros are coming up before that so now be good. That'd be good at Dhahran axten hype long. St Think Gaming for one will be a good time to free kit with free transfers. I could get to eight on. Field are still have second wildcard. Thanks keep up the great work thanking morphing. We should maybe talk about. We just talk about is quickly free hip so andy. Let's talk just realize in Mommy better for him to free gaming for a one because he doesn't have his wall cards and say actually let me. Let me get a tweet up. I'll let you tweet him. Saying a faintly supply about Free Info. And if you walk hard we've teams like city off no spurs. You're not a star looking likely the blank you can keep all these plans for the runs with no fear that blank for a one whereas if you free Madaba that means you're going to bring that means bringing in less desirable assets for that for a one blank which you wouldn't have to transfer out. I'll find out makes unbelievable saints. Prov not makes unbelievable since for May may mar position dependent on. Who PAYS IF? I'M LOOKING LAGO. Most Martine blanking on free in in for Iran as yet. But if you free hit in one just great just say look forward six players. Yeah those just stick supplies you tell you me and your father live from eleven those five players if the plan contains will share it could just be two points everywhere not a main life. You'll fit in with boomer. From what applies. You're not going to get any points. So that's why difficult but then it'll be the same for everyone because all you guys are going to start bringing these plaza now a year but if you have six players yeah and fifteenpoints and they knew then you you free here and get twenty two points for free in the double when you ain't personally for more tame. I'm going to try and get as many as I can for the planking for signing situations. If you haven't got wildcards are to think free hitting for wanting supply tavern. Axon can get two eights players for the for the plank for one and he still has his second wildcard so for me. My voice would be free for one personally. That's marvelous issues hall when you don't have full confirmation instill into off the next game we we don't know who exactly is blanking you anymore. I just think for me as I said I've got to say they're definitely out of the one on I. Yeah and then freely mode ninety four percent liberal assignment night like ninety five percent. Na Na Loophole Cope I live Chelsea? And they're gonNA play the youngsters to live who could easily be plan. Yep Chelsea play then of Liverpool down. Yeah but Chelsea chose your chosen blanking because if even if see they need to go away for Chelsea to play so I think a lot. I just need to just get next week. Why is this week next week? These cannot why I'm in Aachen just brought. This is where I'm at less disabled. Stay and sit Dublin. In between on what's my show say well we don't know yet. So speculation is poem. Oh my God I'm GonNa get back on the triple C. train but it's what I mean. Imagine if you were hitting gaming for one game at twenty nine you you'd be bringing in Aussie you'd be bringing in Obama. Yang be bringing in. Spurs pledged not applies. Yeah because he's Free Info Shifter's and then when those two doubles come along over go most of the main players so it does work for May on Bev off we've believable with Steiner's I am hidden in for one so then when you walk out eleven you amy. Yeah so why? Don't you just try and get get free? Woke supplies right now. The Maneuver Times get finalized. Get as many as you kind him. And then you can walk to completely new good team for the doubles. Attorney needs wildcards. Good Newton Martini. Seek well it won't be when you've got older players plan for one who will not be playing doubling in thirty four hundred seven base going to be a free. He isn't a info one so they're going to be there for one week and then vanished. Yes if a free hitting for one yes. That's what I'm saying. How could we be free? Hit One Evan. Form Wake See Earth. Wfan got material Liverpool and the DAPO. I'm forgetting it might not even need to used welcomes already there. Well Y- you can't do either all undersigned personally. If I've got a wall called on saving it I'm saving my free here. For the doubles sounds good broke and then finally. We have golf. Fao Shark and this is a good segue. Actually because we can start talking about strikers now and then we can do to me filled it. We could do positions again. I guess 'cause golf all six we full strikers with great fixtures Alba Innings Jimenez involved. Who is your best free? And why an Delaram in great question could you please at Tommy to that list thanks Mark House also chimes and DC? Oh so Obama Hangings Jimenez Body. Tammy Decio oldies forward options. Amy Who's your favorite free. None of them is your. He's my favorite me Ma God. I'm so sorry activity in the U. By PA AND THEY'RE NOT AUTO AIN'T GONNA BE STALLING SAPA weenie amaze which bad shout. And then he comes implies and he gets to goes in an ASSISE AWFUL. Jesus Christ would love about now. I'll just goes your Jimenez and then Cape Terai who try. Oh Ri- biffing as is like then I've got loose in Ovar de over. Could you swap environment as but they're not as I need? I don't know but I just say you're Wolcott in this week. Yeah who would be your free strikers. I'm re dot Org because because full about this. This is the thing though but only because she would lie J. Zeus as well. And he's not even in that category. Why have a someone who's looking for differential okay onto this morning so bad like defenders because when you're chasing rank yet when you're behind you need our differentials now. This is the time of the season we want to split like big points. That's why I've been looking at people are Pva to finish school goals. Yeah someone Guero. Who by all means is not right? Pick bad fictious three blanks. Champions League rotation Bah. He's a differential for that reason. No one's going to him. It could apply one of those games in high. That's a Guero does so people out there. You can't y off the sign. Not that's he's in this conversation right now. Alabama Yang is never seen probably when Obama Yang. Bam is album young but anyway yes he's how can you argue for Guero album Myanmar now away in a Bum? Yang much foam completely. Say what you're saying. Yeah a see it. But you've got a guerra who hasn't I mean you can't race is not been on foam really well. And then he has a few bad weeks school in the wall. But then you have people who live in ten minutes airtime and go and that is what you call a different. Show that someone that's GonNa come on and get you point eight five minis whereas what we've got one goal loss five games Bush. Jesus he's lost point six to one zero four. I don't believe it does a lot better than that. An Queiroz lost four points zero two to four so not very well. Yeah and the fixtures is blank you know AIDS Burnley Blank Livable. We've Champions League which PEP is definitely GonNa win if easies law season but yeah anyway. We're not really talking about. What now is the other guys and I thought about this Jeff Budget long and hard today and my favorite free or the free of thought. Jimenez Yeah this is the way I look at. Yeah but a lot blanking. Few Games recently vault. Yeah everything's pointing against Verde. Yeah he's this two points two points two points one point zero points. Yeah forty has been shaped less ripping shit. The pictures have turned. Yeah I have turned novick. Ville home what for the why probable blank ever palace also boomer Sheffield Yeah. She's a day. Lester still thirty table yeah less. They're going to turn this. Around Watt now all. I am fully on Molester train. Yeah I'm even thinking about volley captain this week. I think he's GonNa call. You can call you. Call me crazy. Oh my hockey and you say the casting they sway focus that. That's going to take baldy captain. This week it's crazy crazy. They can say that last momma but lost more on Jamie Dot fucking body captain this week care if you call me crazy Jamie. Don't now the only thing. Put me off. Volley captains plays Friday. But I hope as first game of the week I wanted ever catching on that game. This is what I'm saying is VOL DETORO. Now off fully believed that. Yeah I did it again. Krause it's that go just not fully there yet and then Jimenez Hiroshima Number One. Him Anees needs a number one stroke in the game right now. That's my I know you're there. Yeah on Asia creamier Iva and you begin. Yes he meanness before him. Because you're you're only flower. She's in one system. Which is the free five two. Yeah that's the one way. Play massive one way talk. He flourishes if he plays free for free. That's which we all right flourishes and yours knows good but what system he managed plays nine a Jimenez looks good human scores. Him and his assists. Wolves are the most desirable team right now. Because I don't fucking blanking for one confirmed and they're fucking Shit. Saw Him as the number one forward in the game right now. Yeah I've got Danny ings Islam. A him and his lawyer also could fixtures also on good foam and he's cheap there the free. Yeah now. Obama young is close in as well. You can't can't of Alabama Yang bombings evolved a perfectly fine with that. It's just the fact that will receive Audie as Norwich away and albums as a right now. Which makes me lean towards day. Tammy who you know our love for held him a lot longer than everyone else because I still believe in they also have good fixtures. I'm just a bit. I'm a bit worried about Tom. Eli If he's fully back to four fitness especially with Giroux. Yeah I know Lamport Height Shero. I don't know why. But she was fucking Quality Angie. Rooney's apply again. Champions League happening on Speaker this will actually make a point now. Social restall aiding Champions League against boy Munich so other means Lan parties. Finally coming around. 'cause you're ru or Abram is still not fully fit a full a four star. It's how many oh imagine is the pick from now on Whoa. That's what a fucking won't Marconi. Just play both up top. Because he doesn't want so he's playing. It planned free for free. Yeah Giroux Jerry was bringing Mount Barclay into the game. The way he came it was making Avon. Look so good as it does. So for that reason I don. I wouldn't feel confident bringing in Tommy and then who was lost. I suggested they see. Nowadays is the opposite of Audie right now because of all the fixtures over for him because the fix is a good base phone has been shared. Dc OPPOSITE FOAMS BEEN AMAZING. Fixtures are terrible more folks on is if you go in. Just keep him. But I wouldn't bring him in especially for the plight of applies we've mentioned are pretty much finish it hold anyone. You have really oversee. You'd be willing to get rid of any size blanket. Apart from the AMA step in any other. Strikers are is in the mix. Burt we'll talk about wolves in. Should we talk about wolves now in Jehmu extra talk about wolves? Let's talk about two teams. Yeah you saw fit. We need to talk about. And that's wolves and Lester now for me more. I'm is triple wolves triple lester. Maybe even Saints as WHAT FEMA. Now you can go. You can call me crazy. But that's why I'm feeling now we already know about wolves. Yeah the thing is. I signed this but people really got signed leads. People were to go triple roles is Anita Triple Lester. That sounds a little bit crazy. Well no one has tripled all over new thinks. Oh but wolves yeah. We want triple wolves who had a free. We know him and he's definitely one and then you've got your trail. Ri- dock a Bali. Soya's that pretty much all of them but we thinking I may now. I mean no never as Moscow Your Bang Arbor for me. Zsa Immunize Terai Alway triple wolves attack yet. And knowing that one of them's GonNa get dropped bolger still might play even got holdings and you go. Oh so your initial you. Surely you surely trump sean. This is the thing but some of these marriages are fucking well. We drop trio Ray in full on I. Why the thing as law I was listening to a wolf podcast about an hour ago. So a tweet about him. And he's we just don't know which system is. GonNa play 'cause in the pause each switched Laura is no. It's not wake to wake. He switches system. He goes free for free for a couple months. And then go to free t for few months and then goes back. So that's what makes me think he's GonNa Stick for free for two. But that means no odometer oray which doesn't make sense because he looks. Fucking unstoppable CARDIS. Did YOU FINISH AUTHOR BRONCO? Did you make them? Yeah I said it was a good segue. Golf was the last question I come did you. Oh you know we just spoke about philosophy twenty minutes all right okay and offing. There's no one knows what goes for that guy's eights I mean why don't try pinal forever. See I will low pay or free of WHO Human Nature Orange Story. We just do that. That's in the free four. He does do that. I'm attorney season. What does play a lot? They say Joslin injured been injured. And he's been a phone but so assange apply well when he's in a free to and also talk a as well in a free fall off to you when they pay free to jaw and talk a unbelievable but in the free for free. Jaws knows good clip as a play winger and talk is not as good because trio writes that right flank. So that's why even bringing talk a bit more risk because I mean if you've ever talked Yantra all right you're going to have one. Goya looking good but you never have both ninety six meal during WanNa tell you that for him. Yes I'll trust me collect a wild card number into a wall. Cadre of Dhaka easing every single. One like I told you triple triple triple. Wolves chip sang's. That's that's not Milwaukee that sounds just for you know live. I'm seeing triple Liverpool as well. Triple live approachable Lester. Think about it yeah. You could have siler trend fantastic you can have all day. Harvey Bones Ricardo Pereira. You can have him. As DOC trio right. You could have ings Stevens on coffee and Armstrong Power. Some believable power. But maybe that's not completely I do know you need you. Need lays one to e asset and we ate the point. It was well what I said. I said WHOA. Twelve plus but yeah. Strikers is anything more to say. Obviously I was really high on boom of attack to go shots off Wilson and King and Fraser all omit guys now only pay off Fraser but Wilson King. They still something there. It's just annoying. Always have a shock to good. You know what I mean. And Fix Pavel Balmer fetus. Can't go there. You can't really go anywhere if you look in elsewhere you know. We talked for lovie strikers. Anyone else outside of you can't really touch. Na Na Na Na is anyone else you can think of amy she's a quaver a you know what? Yeah when I walk. Well everyone's going to be bringing in place for the doubles a moth trigger a little bit earlier for Queiro. Try and catch a random hat trick. Because he's a so. I remember thinking it would start the season when you need differential Alabama Yang who? Everyone is the moment coming. He's a popular pig. But now that could be a guero gang me for a burning home aquarium. Four goals two assists. That could happen. You ripe a million dreams Jesus tonight. The episode isn't it. Oh God but yeah. That's enough for strikers. We saw talks about move now as well. I mean we said Jimenez Best Player in the Guy Mark. Now you're unbelieveable but obviously down to the system so talk socio right and employees in. Soya's did you have a fight for what your plans you're going to bring in a wolf everything. I am no. Well that's just silliness. I should get what was if they know and on farm any of those free. Yeah Bali. Soya's by talking Fred on. Of course the talks might as well so often you should get one. I mean he cites defender. Yes is four point. Four Mil Center back. Same as Bali will Polish four point seven mill. But yeah that's wolves. Let's talk about less than now. I just find it hard. Super Lester when they have not been so bad recently. So do you think they're going to be bad for the entire of the rest of the season no? I'm not signed up from this week. Homelands I just. I just need to say them be good again to Guy Right. Should they should. They could've beat mind. Say Yes. I'm going I'm going to get triple lester. And in that she. They don't do anything I want to go right now. Eight him again you in a white into off the essay. I want hop on it now of God of most people still have. Everyone has at least one list apply still finger off. Go to these. What I'm saying to Oakland on Chew and I've got twelve goal. Yeah so I could exit of reflect this week so off could easily go to bars the money so in that way. I don't WanNa do that will. Then I'll go up bonds more press Ma team not happy with that. Well let's change. Let's change the subject. Let's change subjects. Yeah because we've gone from wolves and Nesta move spoke about wolves forwards and Leicester which is a bit random. Let's talk about midfielders because this is where it gets really interesting now. Vicious law asked about the forwards and came up with an opinion but the midfielder's. I don't know what to tell you guys. We've all got salad all morning. Most of us have got you. Fuck it most of the boy now. Yeah so just say that to sports your free spots. Huda Faulk. Should we be bringing in? There is so many options. I think any of them. Really STAND OUT LA. I've been looking. At Milwaukee drafts. It's all over the place. Let me just give you a list. Applies name. I want you to tell me which one stand out. Well okay. So listen we're Charleston Marsh. Ow Brunei Fernandez Armstrong Chain Epo McNeil Zo Hall Bonds. Madison Mount Greenish. None of Zaka SA- BIOS Antonio none of them stand out. This is the situation I mean. What else did I bring? Wall passing folks like. I'm looking at these players. I'm thinking what any ACI society. Oh these positive chief Pires. Ain't that goods. You WanNA spend a bit more money to spend normal. So who is this y you want to spend on peppy pick might by money out bringing in peppy? Papayas or bad show Artist born and also attacker. I might now do. It boils soccer. Five foot five me. I'd sack up back in the day driven by volume now. Jesus I'll just annoy pep. High of food is too much for as but then it does go and get to. What was it two goals and want to see strong mental thing? That's what that is worth got money right. There are just into space to be continuous. Still think outset bench pepe. There was games where are two didn't even bring python now also ost also for May still really only Alabamian Yang when it comes to be. Attackers is the only one who she is undeniable. The rest of them were bit risky thing as he pays this. This is it formation. Yeah he is the formation now but peppy with Obama Yang that if Obama. An Sauce. Pepper pepe this is not really like his air. We've peppy is always Obama. Young we pay Obama and pepper on the wings. Yeah Replying Eddie. In front loss Guy Lexi became afford are now mainly. It's the bit. He's I'll says himself. He goes off training where he sees in training. Bit Lower Pep does their best buddies are filled lack. The rotation could be a little bit with pepe. I still I told Ya play. How'd you alter? I was GONNA bring? He's knowledge from US. Know any as well. Obviously I and yeah. And he's now. Everyone wants to get on the arsenal wagon button. I know he's one hundred percent Wolcott team but we'll get into how well after you set alight. Eat me but even considering him. Oh when was tim's with different manager? When we think people single clean sheet and we consider twenty game. Lot to clean sheets. Well ahead invent yeah. What's up man now or to finish looking quite good so yes Leno. Great show anyway but he's very very good. They scored a moment everyone. Yeah we'll be able to claim chase before the anyway midfielders. Let's start with the Manchester United on Marsh. Owl Brunei Fernandez. I there was your folks. It's really hard. Lot of sin menu play once since they've had Brunei sorry sip-it difficult for me to side with one but because of my money situation of an icon afford him so it's not Bruno Fernandes for me. The only reason I would want him because he's a new player. We some INC of no experience yet but the ease the Goya Isa's James Madison East. Deliveries onset pays is amazing is on paints for like different Madison comparing him to Moscow. He's the medicine more shell he's Devante Wall. Would I want to pick the guy who plays in central midfield over the guy who plays up front? When in this guy? We're looking for goals and assists. Yeah if Bruno's going to be assisting someone is going to be giving Baltimore shout. Let's Kohner him so for me. Maw Xiao he's head and shoulders above Bruno. Fernandez cyanide. Marsh out does what marsh out. Does many blanks fucking awful? But he's not blanking now so a feat marsh hours a good pick fact. Didn't bring him in for Sean. I'm which will right does hurt me but Mansur she not. I will definitely be blind. Can Infer a one. Non Three point six nine Percent Sean. According to bankrolling Sylvia summit the factory if you're going to be bringing in a mansion plan now but let's move onto another Joe. I am a bit shaper now. Southampton who said I don't mind the triple up shoe Armstrong and genetic. Oh they all standing out to me. Genetic Ho looked unbelievable loss game. You Look fucking unbelievable. I don't know how he is only thing but the same was true Armstrong when he plays he's a fucking Bola the fact sheet in. We'll pass over them to go about I'll tell me are still Armstrong's go free goals. And he's lost five games. We'll prow size one assists and he lost nine games. Jesus will you did. Also you help at the time. You just give me a Genetics our genetics had not been as good but he just looked unbelievable from the artist. It again against Baylor and they're much cheaper but these are players who are just you know the cheap for a reason and is nothing else out there. Standing out wise maybe undo la a minus four these weights bring Marchisio inflection in guy from. We'll pressed one of these guys. Well let's talk. You'll just getting convinced by say I may not get fruit. Dwight McNeil he's playing for one. The fixtures are great and he looked unbelievable. Yeah we'll buy 'em juvenile as always bannon parenting. Yeah White Man Not Dwight mcnew. He's in the mix. Yeah Greeley. We're about greenish. Nah Greenish Shame. Yeah and I think he will still get points because he saw involved in everything. Dilatot is just the fixtures. Ma'am lot defections. Really matter when it comes to teams at the bottom and Villa Taffy GonNa struggle saw comparing him to someone harvey bonds. We've quite fixtures or to what macneil great fixtures not just not for me about like I said lest applies Harvey Bonds James Madison. We think about James Madison Madison. I just feel no. He has one good guy every so often and east side. East doesn't return enough. Yeah Harbin's again. He goes really. I oversee all white into Leicester become really good before you hop home. Just cited eappen Jerry just say lesser destroy. Norwich five new. Yeah we'll about in Madison. Then I actually she thinks maybe Peres Pergola. No one racer. But it wasn't that long ago. Yeah well that was when he was injured Peres look good when body plies parishes I really there whereas hall balls is done. Nothing but look insane. Fucking benched him. It that she guy for point quite a while ago where I was going to get bonds. I've Madison but women medicine in the end. I think now all these plans right now. He's always defend shall even our fucking name he's been fucking threw me always likes martial. We're talking about fucking genetic how McNeil yet these players don't compare La Harvey bonds offing is. Avi Your Hobby is a standout. Yeah he's the one for me more showers and Barnes deploy ceremony. That's your midfield. That's what you should be in full if you do want differentials then maybe Zohar no now if you guys know humane you know a lot of you know our love. People sometimes shorter people knew me by now how much I loved. Soho and are now of each office that feeling. Though I just can't imagine saw hulk goes the whole season hoover a little bit of brilliance as being so bad so bad of never sending so bad for so long surely surely seduce coming towards the end of the season mccolm. I looked better. They look good against Newcastle Palace. Both say New Kassir. Just look really bad feelings. Aw on things. Are Kate your oil and saw I? So I'm GONNA say Kate you'll fucking on saw. Yeah he's GonNa be one an- Finally Mayfield. Actually no not for only two more guys are gonNA maybe toss out there mice amount who looked very good again we own. I what mount can do because we all want him and again another plow. I loved it could be a season on cable but the worry is obviously was. Does your affects which made mountain look so good are dot now for me. Maybe white and say. But he's fucking six mil so this is the fingers transfer was. I add basically works at the having to transposing two weeks. I'd like to have meals just over twelve meals. I had six moves by each player right. So moun- was the president bringing this week again. Don't feel comfortable with that Not because he hasn't really had that many huma tens Barkley the to cease this week. He probably then. Mount say you bought in bulk fuel off season? I think it was last season. Yeah you felt Buckley's trap don't ever fool with that ball. Try Mount a trap. Mount Mount proven to us. You could do over sustained periods but saying that like Joseph Pitt. I'll feel more comfortable. I think we've got someone like maybe reached James or summit but even at nine nine nine nine loss garland talk about and this again. This is for the guys need a permanent many lakes for the guys by of set their own targets and they're falling behind and you just need complete differentials even though it doesn't really make logical sense like I said we've Aquar- and now he's Antonio Little Bit zero six point nine meal the fixtures. They're not that good but Antonio does look fucking fall. Yeah and he's been played up front boys. Obviously we don't know what the Fuck Morrison wake to wake. You could easily bench Antonio. Yeah but how? Allier came on on Monday. No and your state on was putting the wing and Tonio is there my man footer. Antonio is GONNA get goes between now and the end of the say's him so for that reason I'm tossing out there. What do you think Matt? How many goals Antonis going to school? In the last eleven games of the season free. How ABOUT YEAH? Maybe four five. How about that student what you wouldn't take folk few and take five goals three now in the season for your photo fool. Midfielder a tighter. Yeah I'll tell you I don't take it for that price more. He's no point seven percent owned he. I'm shutting him out. Michaela Antonio is a great player lasted midfield as done. I guess now for defenders not talking about a little over a lots goff my chest year chest through free to talk whenever you want. Amy Sure you opinions on things. Yeah going any opinions. No just for the midfielder's like I said he was just such a difficult one because I looked homeowner full stomach any of them. Your best upset. It's really hard for me to get good information. That's people when not like any of them. Will you took it by a finger by giving opinion to have an opinion to a Tokyo? But I didn't realize you know what even a hobby fully now offering harvey bonds ease the womb. Somebody will have Greeley. She's week yeah. You don't want to be getting rid of him. 'cause he fucking blanks. Greenish the bones issue. Folks I don't get me wrong. I'm now go bonds of natural corner. Lester yeah that's good. You have an eye but this is a lot of always will all year bonds and to be honest with the money. Of course he's the best option so about my transfer complete. I'm like having Free Lester so just going to hold a novel of a sudden after Cornwell are of gone. What can you dave me? Let's let's switch to defend his neighbors again on that same theme like I said earlier. Yeah you won't play now. We're going to spark points so for me. I am only looking go scoring defenders. And they're all out there. Yeah you've got your who defense. Maybe one. Maybe you've got free. You defend it. Don't talk about him. Don't fuck about lupone pods. Who else is out there could school calls and the Stevens remarked be injured school. Me Go Matt. Okay yes record. Pereira yes pay. Yes These guys Ricardo. Pereira am talk. I think these guys are your your most valuable Godfa. Now give all had Pereira moms and he was scoring out. I mean it got one assist in about eight weeks maybe up and again I me. I'm saying it's time to take risks. Now this will I'm sane you. If you want apply we could get you near. Twenty points in a given week is going to be someone like that. Someone Alonzo Alonzo is a great shot. Everything dropped every Tom Alonzo Pies. He seems to get our. And then frank drops him like a sector share frank. You're a fucking idiot. Might well to not in a Champions League. The plan free at the back and Alonzo is wingback. Yeah that to me gives me some little hope is is. He's locking Alonzo but then he just a spine Jerus- well doesn't mean anything. Yeah because I look goods plan them yes obviously could easily go back to playing time. A. M. as soon as police are left back but for me sometimes they should take some risks and always attackers other. Said's they are worth the risk. Now pay the IRA that one goal we got last week. That more akin the time we might have missed that train. But Ricardo Pereira doc off firmly. Believe they're going to be getting more tax returns. I do feel that we've into Stevens as well. Is there anyone else? Obviously I think my Stevens is the positive agenda. It was a great shot as well. He's Chepe of Africa about Malkov. Law sought five weeks now. But I feel like yeah. He's a good show of Saint. David Colognes is a great show. I think dougherty is a good show. Offing is hard. Because I want all of these guys talk maybe triple double sleeve aboard tax. Just saw another defender slow. Because all want Pereira Doc Alonzo Stevens. Pva wouldn't him? I want him to women's ten in that five. Where does it say is a moth to go double live attack so extra spot in modified just to one little tweet replies one one defender while would Duda who is actually? Who IS THE BASE PEAKS? You've got money or salary. You don't really want both anymore. Let's be honest lot too much money. There's too many have money. We have money. Because the best. Love the best midfielders out there. A fucking five mil having Sal Monae and then bonds tro Ray fucking mount over of all and then having him as Varsity lets. You put loads of money. Then you could have trained and then you could have always attacking. Defenders Defenders Seeks Meal. I don't know if you have enough money. I'll less it. What now shall we y? Yeah you'd have to lose. The Roy are Vardi. Told you based in very doable yet. But then you one way sign instead of variety you want obamacare or someone like you have to go. We Vardi so jar you can already to show. You could easily have more on them. But he's sometime. Maybe you don't need all of as attacking defenders but adding a couple of them. Choose one of Talk Apirak Talk Pereira. They are actually Pereira. Just parabola get emperor catches came Pereira because if you go if Negoti free for free talk is not going to be as good parade of are definitely going to be good with these fixtures. Attacking Pereira's Alonzo Saima game does not have you can apply. Pereira is the fuck you mom of see we do. Poke awesome. Job is to keep paper advice. But didn't you regret giving these people have us? Because you feel that your voices so gooden you and now it's telling people do these things to get points but then everyone's GonNa copy and then get points and then you're just GonNa Stupid Shit. I may accommodate the future. I could be completely wrong. Could be completely wrong. I'm just giving more opinion. I mean I've got nothing else aren't F- Peo- anymore. I don't have anything to play for. All have is his podcast. Ohio's a million dreams Capes may alike. Keep yeah then go capers. What the pay would go ahead Anderson? Or what do people difficult any blankets? This week play their second goalkeeper with A. Don't have one then for me. We own space more plan. Transfers Leno blanks. I mean on on probably about four million the bank because I went on to AOL. Right so Henderson. I've got ten players. Yeah because goalkeeper. The logical move is to bring a goalkeeper. Yeah because that's GonNa be at least two points. This week Henderson blanks twice. So what I get players. A goalkeeper at plays in twenty eight and for one there's only one goalkeeper who played in two thousand four one with good fixtures. Well Nigh will wolves have Tottenham this week. I talked one Patricia. Fucking DOC who to fourteenth planning for a one wolves Ni- Bernie boomer what -Ford what firts Pasta. Dr Foster not talk to foster amy. So what I live in twenty. I am burning for a one. I saw very good and then boom have choked. Seen Twenty eight wolves for definitely not an inherited Bernie of new cost when twenty eight. What infor he won he keeps saying these Polat by be Thuc impact. This week. Pope Against Newcastle Ben. Popish Spurs and say. Bring him back pain then. Hembo boxing for Pope again here. But do you really want to use to transfers the next four goalkeeper one transfer. You want him is a spare right. Yeah for two for two games. Have you got the money to go former in the bank by much pope? He's more than four. Meal is four point. I so you get you get pope now. I'm going to get rid of woman who formule fluffy toy making saving zero milk. Okay so you can get rid of. Henson's bringing pope to black and discern now on the bench. Yes what explained very well listeners. Do Great thank. You know. You're not following. No you didn't make sense but yeah I mean there's not much really able to talk about. We've go capers is a I mean. Ifc KEPT RYAN BECAUSE HE'S PLAN. Palestine and AQAP memories pioneering fate. One more. We might be blanking. So we'll see next plank Fisher g six thirty one. Oh Brian Brian if Lester Bryant Bryant blanking go ninety four percent chance we've Their fixture with less talk so to be honest I will. I'll kept him. 'cause of Paris weighed in burnaby science. Fucking shit everyone was assigned about rhyme. Being go keeps getting down fuck OV- Mayor Fingleton even get one clean sheet from the guy. Brought Tha Tha Shit. Now four-star way but I'll say I'm thinking to myself I probably am going to free him for one anyway so he's not an issue for me to have him well. Crystal Palace. Wolves awesome. No no great but Henderson's is only for one week. I'm swapping want you can't watch. What are you fuck about Iran? I'm telling you Brian Benjamin these one game week. Fuck you knew any of these. These players enemies teams a food up. We've got elaborate enough of people who listeners and walk the fuck could we've just we've just pulled random? Random is at the bag claw. This is pivotal. Say Mamane Guys Mansi. No mention about guerin. Jesus what about MAREZ LE? Forget the blanks Marvez. Great Shah to porn is an amazing show. Was studying comes back. Maybe he'll be a good sensible. F Pl Plow Boyana NASA about air. Yeah of course bar the rotation issue ridiculous eliminated and there's no stand up players. Yeah that's enough for that. We got the previews now. Mentally Update Mar transfers and captains. Let's talk about in many league. Update them because it's tasty eight very tic- and wing. We're in crunch time right now. Into the final stretch of a season and everyone in the top ten or now from one one account so a will to a top ten countdown this week. You know I'm still in the first page. Though for in the first place but went on voice six. I actually was looking at these awful on the first page. And then scroll down and he got to. That was the last one on the first page. Forty eight or something fifty hours and then by sea had an Arab at the bottom as it ever and he said I in off for the last one was I think yes. I think it's just let me know I'm on the second page. I you know it's just let you all you could look at where the page you want. You can let you know where you all. But Yeah Tenth Place Paige Kelly opposite. He's not for the fuck is Paige Kelly tenth deciding. My all was doing quite well now off the cliff it can happen out on you doing quo. You've a lot below me for half the season. Don't forget to done quite well why to surge down. North Place Gregory. Cancel him really know him? I Gregory Life Congressional High Bid if Peo- yes seventh floors Anderson. I don't know who e let me just. I Love Greg which I ever show you. Shut him out coffey. I'm so this show Michelle north sick. Leon Collie Beef Peter King Saul. Am I am Dick? This is a public service announcement to Leon. Colle- plays or not finish below peer. Cancel planned this in this league. Only say as I don't care what you do just darn just say so tato fourth. Is Tom Watson? Who tweeted me to read out the top five? So I've done is just for Utah Watson. -gratulations you've might podcast. Ferdie Richard Phase. Is this anytime? You're not no because I don't know who we know. And I wish affair Jay's on twitter flora's within our stay Timea Joan in Second Stephen. Your Sim of each knocked off by men like golf movies now. Top of the League one five hundred six hundred forty five points at the minute is taught. Now Golf's in an hour five Kai sixty points. Congratulations Golf but Stephen Covey the advice. Just be BA. And you'll be the top where you belong and then you get. You depend out on then you get your companion. Yes Marvelous USA even is GonNa Queiro Ingredient Taika Gweru for Voday or Greeley's to Harvey Ball. And then you got. Your left applies back again. That's the white and that's the way to win. Peo- less to see okay. I'll call wave annoy eight. Lester one new. Oh my time because I'm GONNA have to pull Ester by then well this sign Mula. People could've voice more opinion accompaniment. He's like you do. Sometimes keep Kai advice a high but you do talk pio like I said no pipe bear Ho North for relegation. Yeah unless the all foam. What if no issue completely turned over on this podcast understand when you say Mitchell hype? If he doesn't listen to me maybe just don't listen to the PLONKER. I will give you a solution. No because it's I have about a guerra to jaw or guerra morph free for free and enjoy knowing again. Then you felt Bu- look lot. We said he's Jimenez. Not that's that create ings. Guero on a say you of a Cape Human as or you swap him in his jaw off ink and then as I know but I think you're wrong for having to wear by but might be like Definitely feet might be off to the blanks. Goto OBA meaning. Yeah he doesn't want his whole team specifically manage she aubrey sorry rindge alive? The thought he's doing better than us. Oh listens fucked away. No fucking share at least your second in the fantasy plug. August but yeah congrats to one shot at one in. That stopped him other than Greg. All Tame our plan transfers and captains as I'm a transfer look good I I may. Would you say who you see? Captain Body Yeah. The paper ones squall fruits and a lot of people are questioning. Do you invited this week. I think he's GonNa have to come to see on his captaincy difficulty sweet year because you're going to capture a home player. There is no good home teams. Yeah who's the Best Home Team Spurs? But their plan wolves ever they're playing AIDS Norwich Bra and boomer Newcastle Western. What foods fuck off? He's liberal. What for the way. Even though I in captain defenders is after fucking westbound goes against them will try to still capture silo up more night vaud entrenched by all the captain. Shout this week. They'll only captain shot this week. Maybe a little bit Danny ings as well but any of them I think is the worst shop any of them but you could could cut intrigue you could cut in Silo. You cut off. You could even be capping ings on any of them. He's like just a complete nominally but CENA. Now if you if you're someone immature ponder Kyra. Now you're someone winning many league you Captain Stellar will monae as just the SCF bear. There's no reason to risk. If you're someone like me. Lost interest as a million dreams. Go in for King Body. But who you captain. Now you use go complete inspired from that. I was already having the captaincy involved in these. Oh show me now. I'm done because I've Aussie moved my my captains ease on fucking stevens this fucking defender Phantom. Because that's who I was walked from ours so obviously captain is really in the bag. I mean I have a couple of pay POPA again. They defenders. Trust that or not really. Sure I trust that the best person for me is Jaime Valdes. You've only got trend of already pretty much. Yeah I mean trainees probably Shah I mean the Guy Back Gracia? Between these way it was outdoor guy. Marvez took our train. Okay Trey would've got me four extra points but can you say shot at Emai? Captain Falcon Marez when all you guys kept in cell two points more than use. I. I'm reappear that it was good I may have to Kamara is have you got sal how you can have more as you. You need a you need a liberal horse. Hackery me she can captain name fucked. Every week you'll fucking funds. Every week ended up managing this week. You had to cut him always against Leicester. Down same puts you last week or seventy eight point was actually the points. Emami Lake on income. That folks I'm actually thinking much on the now so I hung listens mine of US stick with more live. Cortott because often come doing just fine the way I am on our need to stop being crazy. 'cause I'm already cool. Well okay. You've said enough. I'll have your kite. That's all that we need to say. Well you know all you below me and blow you almost WANNA Beveren Menu. I'm fucking transferring in injured players. I'm still above you. Wash it. Yeah anyway just to wrap up or not SEMAINE. Don't vote a because a one McCarthy and the blank on the Friday and then after suffer what She Louisville play sadder is what I'm saying. That is the reason that my captains is non Jamie Vardi yet. They almost going. You're saying I the beginning of these. What did I say? Don't ever captain in the first game. She said on this podcast. Rut beginning earlier. I I we're you say five minutes ago and as one more captains on this week. Oh Oh your copay always took this week and then I realized he was the first guy and I went. Oh my lifting on what you do is you. Just listen to everything else I know. When are you gonNA Captain Voltage yet? I'm catching voice where you know. And I'm like no actually I'm not gonNA cut. You voted this week. The way you talk. I'll know carrying void. This way to me. I mean I'll have my opinions. Obviously that the best team choice for me this week but he's playing in the first game which is on Friday. Not offer comfortable with that. He's everyone in the communities. Hedera some people ignore the facts. Somebody would not facts of when fixtures are but for more personal you know. What are now us? I WanNa have fun with this guy in tight. Risks if our Captain Volley any pranks on Ford. I watch in siler Plug Ins wofford Saturday evening or could not go free with that so I am officially good a pussy out. Go safe this week. I'll take risk another week. But not you've just parkway podcast about being crazy and you don't care anymore and that you need to take risks and now you're going for the safe option game you're fucking pussy all other sheet. Yeah pretty much. It might well anybody else or is this podcast. This podcast is done. It's been griping. But we've you guys hype the almost your transfer. I've already sade. Flaked bloody bonds studies the bags enough copies of your apparently almo gold. You've already done it over the while you do that because people call me crazy. Wow off the beaten and injured died after you've had early transfer for no reason. Wave Bond gets injured tomorrow with any of your price get injured tomorrow. I'm not needy. I haven't done the transfer because I'm a retired. Oh my deadline anti I might just before we do it. The price rise. Okay just right because our toll so you. You're a liar is what you're now just lot paper fink of done these things. We're not showing happen. So you're loyal. Nice just means confident. No it means lying doesn't mean lying. I'm still GONNA do that. Transfer I'm just not right the second you said you've done it so you lied on. Yom Law give it up because you've just done that when almo because he could get wind you up. Well I'm on new up. I mean you you made your lion lines of people in polk cost transfer. I'm going to do it now. Two days late August. Because you said you've done it now. Well at least if I did line people had done it and then he gets in judoka cheat. I'm not fucking media just a lawyer. Yeah realize that more totality oh areas cold so not. Fuck you tease. You're fucking draws his own people. Is it Randall from recess? Yeah well yes. I'm sure the right sign taking content contents content anyway mar transfer like I said Woodmen to pope will be transfer. Maybe I'm fucked anyway because I've got ten players of one on the bench but hiding doesn't play of also got trail right or I saw and Brown born on the bench of go deploy now and the Stevens. Haydn trio riot alway Henderson Woodmen Sham Fox team now on derived a bad strike. Might you need to Sola at Mo. Just do you on say just Wall Way. Come up with all that don't even know. Some of them are so bad woodmen base for that. Okay Pa Hayden. One of these on your bench. What she's got going off on someone else. I'm not who the fuck is that Stevens trail right over two point. Oh yeah a lot Stevens Stevens. Very very good lucky. Lucky very calculated gripe. Pick the Stephen Matz enough rich. Paul Costco is next game. We is another Monday nor so I will put in choose next week again. So Yeah Catch. You said cheese.

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122 - Kevin Pereira vs. #TheSnyderCut

The Valleycast

1:06:20 hr | 4 months ago

122 - Kevin Pereira vs. #TheSnyderCut

"So here's how this is GonNa work. We basically just chewed destroying. We're wrapping. We're wrapping up. I don't want you to feel like much. There's there's not really a format other than we kind of all have shit. That's on our minds that we can just kind of bring up as a topic and and then just talk about a little bit like me. I have my topic is I'm just jumping right into. It is incredibly selfish. Sorry I just you know. Sometimes you just got grab the reins can. Steve Likes to assume he's in the driver's seat. Everything me fake rains. That's fine I'll still also give it a shot but I'm John Fucking Zack Snyder's Snyder. Cut like like you. WanNa talk about that a little bit if if you want to you. I don't but I'm happy to ride. You've got the rain. Welcome to the Valley cast down wind just blowing right through the damn car right now. Can't really hear each other talk about everything and anything usually also always. Disney Marvel in some weight in your in the email. You sent us on things that you didn't WanNa talk about and you're right. It does say the Snyder specifically just that's the only thing I missed it Hashtag. Yeah well it was also wings font so it wasn't mailbox puppy dog building things. Yeah you should be. I know you guys know I don't know anything about I literally don't know I had to fake being a nerd for like a decade. Plus I don't know was. The Snyder cut is is that where the cats have holes. I really don't okay. Yes you don't know what I mean it's DC. Because I saw image. And then my buddy rob text me like kings and I'm like how should I feel about it? And he said the same so yeah I genuinely don't really know what it is the most interesting thing about recording the podcast right now. Oh Yeah we are recording. Yes that's so funny. I had no idea I truly had no idea. That's great. Carry on please. You guys want to do the show. I you should do the interest Martin having infra. I love the tell each other when we were GonNa do the address. And I'll alright hold on. Where's my slide whistle? Oh boy here we are guys. Welcome to the valley cast. We're about to do the INTRO. The valley cast. It's it's just so like Konak when when I saw the guys did spotify EP for Charity. I was literally appears we'll onion cutting just because Kevin asked for it. Thank thank you Valley League Bali with Joe and Steve and Elliott. And then that's it and that's all you need really good. It is buddy. What's your user name on the subway? So the the most interesting thing about the Snyder cut is not. The Snyder cut itself. It's the fact that like fans wind enough to convince the studio to put thirty million dollars into completing Zack. Snyder's cut of the Justice League movie made sonic the Hedgehog better. So why won't make the Snyder by no? Isn't it interesting it's like we're really seeing a time where the audience can truly just scream enough and something big will change? Yeah I guess it works for movie studios but not for industries or politics social change. Yes yeah anything real significance but this can a step back. The Justice League was was a movie correct and it was like version of the avengers correct. It was okay attempt at a movie like the event of injures Mo aventures came out. Yes in theaters and they needed an extra forty five minutes or something. Or what was the? I love how little you're not perfect. You're making me feel so good and validated as a purse. Hold on can feel the youtube comments. And make it obscenity. Everything yeah I can feel that old enough to where I don't care. Yeah about them. Commenters individuals and peoples. It's just this particular opinion. Hey I have to go car to call her editor and Really Quick Hang Ryan. Can you ditch the thumbnail where Kevin has nerdy glasses with the tape on it talk? Did he tell him you shitting on Batmans chest right on us? That one cares. Have nipples still? That's I don't sincerely so so. What was the issue with the the Justice League as the fans saw it? Well what happened was was Zach. Snyder was in charge of this Justice League movie and then some a terrible events occurred in his life and then he had to leave the project and Joss. Weeden came on board and completed the movie but but like didn't use a bunch of stuff. That Snyder had already shot and and planned for. And so what we got in theaters was like a half Snyder. Half just Weeden kind of Frankenstein thing and so people are like we want the Snyder. And that's what the whole thing about. The Snyder cut is got us. Is that from the fact that people hated the movie to like the movie. Yes it sucked. Yes yes that is correct. It sucked. I don't really know either. See just so you know it. Is Josh Weeden Josh? I don't WANNA use say anything. That's going to upset people in the comments. Of course thank you. Thank you for saving before it became an issue. Josh Whitman Whitman okay. So we'll we. Are you excited for it to get always agency by genuinely are you one of the fans screaming into the social wins? But now are you for it. No I didn't even see. I didn't even see the other one that was in theaters. Michael Keaton version. But what's interesting Schick? Your God Dang. Hey there was just so much vitriol and like anger and aggression and like nerd rage over this fucking thing and to the point where like I don't know it seems like people really bullied into finishing the goddamn thing but Well that's my question to you. Then Steve Seem like you brought it up as not being somebody that wanted it what it seems like you have an opinion on the rage culture that is influencing Pop Culture what's your stance on quickly shifted my my my point because you don't really give a shit about this. It's just that it's an injury so my topic is just going to be like what he goes. Big Huge Boulder. And your glass. You guys clearly don't care about look. Look my whole thing was going to be. What do you guys think about this whole Snyder? Cut Thing and it seems like it's just whatever who gives a shit so I shifted to. What do you think about nerd? Culture being able to scream out from from their computer desks and get a movie made essentially a thirty million dollar thing made I well before we dive into that. I am pretty excited about the Snyder Gut. I think it's kind of cool that it's happening. I'm interesting for sure yet canceled. I think it's like a great move on. Hbo MAXES PART TO GET PEOPLE TO BUSINESS. Move and like how it's like. Who knows what that means in the future for other movies that ended up being terrible. That could be Rica. I don't know but I don't care about nerd. I don't know who they are anymore. Where are where are the words the nerd? You don't have an interest if you don't have a horse in the race like just like Dave. Yeah do the same people who care about the the Justice League are they the same people who care about like Ruby rose stepping down as Bat? Woman or back. Girl prob probably. Yeah so anyway. Guys Valley cast listen. This is GonNa be a great show because we have a great friend of ours. The the real start now I respect and love and and we'll go to Joe Baretta job. Thank you for having me. Spent a while out of the out of the Youtube game for a couple of days now and I'm really happy that you guys are giving me a platform to come back and speak my mind. It's great thank you Joe. You had some some real strong opinions on that Snyder. Cut Gotta say all I gotTa say about that. Snyder cut is like look man. This is just capitalism supply and demand in action the bunch of blur going. I want to see it. So then somebody stepping up and saying. Hey maybe we can get him to sign up for. What is it our fucking third platform that is a paid subscription platform? Come over here. This is where the Snyder cut is good for them. I don't care or go ahead Kevin yes please. No it's not like I don't mean to like Balide pure ambivalence on this or on anything like ultimately it's like look if you're one of the people that were upset. What a great win. As a business decision I'm sure somebody had several excel spreadsheets spanning multiple monitors. Instead of we x dollars here will lead to why sign ups and this is earned media right. They just did a photo and there are a handful of dudes chatting about it so great I was going to get. Hbo Max anyways because I had HBO. So it'll be another tile that I skate past to get to John Oliver John. Oliver's Snyder cut. It's just one shot the whole time or big old monologue. It's Batman the whole time. I I heard that if you have. Hbo Now it just becomes H. Yeah that's like the best news ever so just just okay. Yeah I think it's I think it's talk about quarantine privilege now because HBO becoming the best thing not vote by mail. Just the Snyder. I'm just one man. Okay just a simple man I got to come on. I got super excited yesterday when I saw an advertisement for a spelling bee documentary. That's coming out. This is the whole city. I'm putting this on the calendar. Yeah it's it's that's where that's where we're all at. We're all in it together watching the same shit all right. Listen hold on a second here. God damnit we're on a show called the valley cast and our special guests Kevin Pereira and it's very exciting. He brought Elliott Morgan with Elliott Morgan. How're you doing today? Hearing back laws But begging for hiding the skeletons ending. Actually it's funny. You say that because I actually enjoyed a minute hold on now. Sorry go ahead. I didn't know you were practising magic while you were in. Quarantine Elliott for audio listeners. Guys I did a hilarious gag anyway. Here's the thing I've training trying to get Kevin Onto valley folk thing for a while and he's I literally less than a week dare you. I have literally and Clinton is the perfect time because no one can dodge anything course. Nothing you can say that will actually work and then just like judged from that moment. How were you treated by your friends during quarantine? Well they never lied to me. They made they actually answer my calls. It was the only did. Three of my. Were not sincerest. Thank you for having me. It's a it's a delight. Yeah we're GONNA have some fun because we're just GONNA shoot the shit about whatever we want really and then we're going to get the hell out of here and go about our day house The quarantine been treating you. We've heard our own stores. A billion times been fine. That's well that was the thing it became a an unnecessarily heated exchange amongst different Zoom Group. Where the discussion was surprisingly great. Bob My admittedly privileged experience during a quarantine does not mean. I don't have the capability to understand that. It's been tragic and terrible for literally millions. Essentially Billy I don't that doesn't negate that but my experience. They're pretty great. Yeah this type. Yeah I've been very fortunate. I Love Post mates. I figured out how to gain like a whole foods delivery. It's awesome. Don't have to go to the store I live. I live with someone who I actually enjoy a now with spent more time in Vr we. I was very fortunate. All my employees are working from home. They seem to be happier working from home. And not having to be organized around. This really good good. You know that's awesome. I love your. It's nice because the alternative is if you play. If you don't say that then you have to be dishonest. And then you're focusing only on the negative but yeah I think we're kind of a similar vote or over here where it's like. This is actually nice. It's weird now. I think my brain's adjusting to be like I don't. I'm nervous to go back. In addition to all the medical reasons in the scientists nervous to go back just in the sense of like I don't want this period to end in many ways even though I know it needs to and should and all that so it's a weird. It's weird to talk about because you don't want to sound callous but yeah it's been it's helpful in many ways Boli agree. And that's the that's the issue that when someone's asked like how are you doing the answers fantastic and that's the let's be honest. How is the world doing how our neighbors doing well? That's a completely different answer. Yeah you can have empathy and still be be okay but you know like I don't miss from from just from a pure productivity standpoint. I don't Miss Losing Forty five minutes on either end of a twenty five minute meeting worrying about parking validation and sitting in gridlock to get from one smoggy end of this town to another snuggie and I don't I I have an office with friends and dare I say family that work and I. I don't think anybody misses having to report into a place. We can get things done here so I can juxtapose that with the fact that I'd been grocery shopping and helping out my senior citizen neighbors across the way and they're deathly afraid to go out. Sidon we sanitize everything like that's a different question. I'd fucking love a quarantine. Signed me up for this. This has been great. It's like not so overwhelming for people who kinda were creatures of indoor anyway of the indoors like if I didn't go out much really I liked to. I Love Disneyland. I love going to the movies and Shit but we were kinda ready to be stuck like this in some ways If you were a reclusive type if you were that yeah if you were that that human Follow up for you. Cav- is the the Are you see? Are you for seeing any like Are You? Are you taking any experiences from this? For example with your work and your work family and stuff like this and do you foresee and this doesn't have to be A. This is not God's word from cabin on the record his employees. But do you see yourself moving forward with your business and working any differently. Once the quarantine is over like do you see a lot more working from home and being okay with remote work and all that and actually pushing towards it because it could be healthier and more time efficient one hundred percent. Yeah I mean look there's a giant amount of of the I'm GonNa say resources but there's a amount of money invested in a huge space that for the last few months or so has been mostly dormant. There's been a person kind of going in there and organizing things and keeping it keeping it tidy. There's a huge amount of resources in terms of time wasted people to commute to a thing so if some employers are happier working from home in great I I can't. I can't fathom a world where on the other side of this a kind of that's weird to say because there is no official other side of this vaccine. Or what have you like? There's still no real like it's done now. All go back great. It's not going to be like that. We're going to be like second. Evolution OF QUARANTINE POKEMON WON'T BE HBO MAC BUT WE WON'T BE HBO WILL BE Teen Becomes. Hbo Go Oh Yeah Hbo Go. That's actually the correct answer. Yeah I don't I I. It's it's I guess it's ultimately up to me but it's not up to me it's up to the to the people that WanNa put in the work and wherever they want to work from. I. I'm not saying anything new this. It is unprecedented. This kind of pause would have never happened society Los Angeles alone let alone. The world at large would never gotten together to collectively. Do this experiment for any reason right so here we are and we've proved that a for all the bluster about meeting report to work and be exactly. They're on prime into shared physical space. It was mostly bs not for all jobs but not by by any stretch but at least for the ones that I have and the ones that I provide. Yeah it's kind of be asked. People can work from wherever they want. Yeah and people have always known on some level that like I think it adds to a lot of anxiety that people feel when they have office jobs and cubicles and all that. 'cause you're like you know you don't really need to be there most likely and if you do need to be there then you know. And it's not bad but for these people who have always kinda wondered. Yeah it's like this is this is proof. Now it's like okay we can. We can handle this and be happier kind of commentary on the hierarchy of resentment right in August base of like. Okay well one. It's my money to I'm here so you're GONNA be here and if you're not. You're reminding me that. The decision that I made was actually wrong. And I don't like that because that makes me fallible and I'm the boss and I have the money and I'm not fallible. Be here see. That's what I was going to say about those companies where they have businesses that are like just concerned. I'm just concerned Joe had somehow tapped into my Alexa because her get out of bed. The mentality is literally like the the motivational poster behind your desk. I hired you and it's your fault that's on. You know. I mean the the the thing I was trying to say was is that I feel bad for the people who work for companies where their supervisors are like. You have to be here. And and are so strict about it. And it's a thing and then they're gonNA come back from this world and then those people are going to have to either accept it or go back to being like no you need to be here and because those people don't WanNa be proven wrong that that that actually can work if some people don't come into into the fucking office right. I am not good. Oh let's cute cute you I I. It's just you're the guest. Go just filling air. So the Snyder cut good. You couldn't have made the Snyder cut. During Kovic those editors got together with all the creative on top of each other. We had about seventy two hours of lead time on figuring out how to get twenty five people with a an infrastructure that was designed only for an offense we had a literal server infrastructure and in the meetings and processes every everything was designed to various employment seventy two hours to completely reimagined that and then L. A. announced. Hey we're officially locking down so thankfully we gotta that we're now in this weird spot of trying to figure out again like well. How do we as city starts to open back up? What do we do and we're kind of going like oh. We don't feel the pressure like we did on the on the front side of this. We're just GONNA start to hang out and we're not going to be the team that says well. I'm in so damn at all of you have to be miserable with us in the digit. Mine's getting all that dingy juice. Out of a Veggie ground like now comfort and the I had countless days. Where in between meetings or responsibilities or just inbetween gould drive tabs. I've got twenty five minutes to forty five minutes wasted on Reddit or twitter or twitch or whatever the website is and at home that practice has become or maybe I can put something away or do some damned dishes or say hello to the dog or go for a walk. Any number those things and it's it's made me far happier and I thank healthier. You know it'd be great to have this existence where I could still go see friends or not be afraid to haircut. That's this is a boring. Maybe boring question but out of curiosity what like what is your day to day like. What is your routine in terms of how much time you're spending working or this might be a question more for pre co. Vid But like. I'm curious about what you're you're kind of structure is on a weekly basis or daily. Yeah a Pre Cova. It was up around six six thirty Tried to physically move in some way. That doesn't hurt my old bones. Yes which is proven way more difficult as of late and then then yeah then I would drive into work I would. I would always send emails and try to do that while I'm supposed to be focusing on anything but but then it's into a into work and I'd be there till like six six thirty sometimes seven and come home and a lot of that time was a lot of that was waiting for the next meeting or waiting to get the next document written and procrastinating. Because I'm blowing off steam with again Browser Tab. I don't need to be on Or whatever else and it's been so much better at home I'm sleeping more. I am not at first. It was an immense concern of of of Any wasted millisecond. Reid feeling the any any demons of being unproductive that would chase you normally were amplified. Because while I'm at home now and I've got to really be doing this and I was finding myself sending emails on the Couch at eleven thirty. That ship has sailed that ship has sailed and everybody on it is quarantine that they probably got it. It's gone now the so the routine now is I wake up. I wake up. I kind of move about whenever throughout the day that I want to move about and again I don't want to like I don't want these to be like it's it's I'm very privileged. I'm very fortunate I don't want to apologize for that. I'm I'm happy about it again. Recognized that everybody's in that in that position but mental health is better. I'm sleeping better and being more productive and I'm having more time to not be productive which is awesome. That's great man. Sounds like you're you're choosing to learn better in become better from the experience again in in a in a place where you can and some people aren't able to but I think that's healthy as opposed to a lot of the other rhetoric. That's out there. That is just choosing to be angry and ANGSTY IN BEING. If it's not like it was it's wrong like. I'm glad that I think a lot of leaders out there are and I. I wish their voices were amplified. Just a little bit more during all this the hope and the change and because like you said it's going to be so different on the other side. Whatever the new normal is so you still think the viruses real absolutely not. This is all All EON musk. It's an experiment. Do they installed a five G. Tower just a couple of blocks away so I beg to differ. I just learned about the five G. I didn't know about them. It's so in my God. We're all the same person all the same people you can. Could you put a hot pocket on your shoulder and walk beneath one it will be steaming and and and also gay please? Joe Hot pockets of always been gave been so brash themselves. This is my friend Gary. He's a bear. My Name's Joe. I'm a twinkie and this is my friend. Ralph he's a hot pocket we cover the gamut man. I the slow like I shouldn't say this. I've been watching the slow Rosen of social media for a while. Now I remember when the barrier to entry to get on the Internet was tough and now they've just made it so that like if you drool on a phone long enough it will the access social media but to see like the level of astroturf ing and budding and this that I mean it has it has ramped up exponentially now as you all know. It's it's it's it's really disheartening. It's really scary. And I think that's like again but maybe speaking from incredibly privileged position but like that's been the really scary thing route all this was to watch the narrative be manipulated and controlled by everybody for every reason but to see that manipulation happening all the bought sleeping timelines. Have you guys tried? Just re tweeting something political recently. I'll every once in a while. Take a dig at Our glorious leader and my my replies are just like real people sorry yeah they're not real yeah they will. They are some of them. I don't know if they're all the time. I always just assume they are real people who are just insane so it's the same like what's the difference. Really Steve. What was happening to US recent. Oh sorry go ahead Elliott. Sorry I'm just trying to like the box. Usually have like a billion numbers at the end of their name right. Isn't that kind of the and certainly do? Yeah they've gotten better though and it happened to us recently in weird way on. Rpg video flocking. Go ahead Red Ball thank. You read ball. Red Balls Steve. Please elaborate on what happened on our cats videos. You know I It was so weird because we would just post a video and then like the comments section would instantly be filled with like three or four comments. Like right when you post it. That were just like these like weird little. They were youtube accounts. That were not I mean. It wasn't English words but it was like and then in the comments it would be stuff like red panda bear. And then another post would say like Falcon Exposition or something and it was just like freaking me out. It was like what is this. Is this some kind of like Like men in black coders. Yeah you're just activated on somewhere just listening cat's name characters so weird and it was like every video yacht racing right now because you just said bation. He's fucking ready to go to ready. I'm ready just so you guys explored the accounts and found that they were putting out on multiple things or I don't think we deep dive that much and when Steve says it's not English it's like that weird symbol where it's like the a connected to the E it's like to musk's child's yes. Yes exactly it might have been rushing. I just didn't want to assume but anyways. So yeah you trigger an algorithm you trigger something in and then it just opens the floodgates and I thought you brought up an interesting point to Kev where it's like you came at the beginning when it was counterculture and then this sharing of information became this Utopian Ideal Listrik Quarry. Thought of what it's going to be and I don't for whatever reason unless we were listening to the wrong people. Just nobody saw what you're talking about now coming as hard as it did like people taking advantage of it in various people making sure that they can sway elections in and change public discourse. It's crazy I was very fortunate to get on bulletin board systems old. Dial up modem days when I was like eight nine years old and teach myself computer. See that but finally got on eked online and was having discussions with like literal nuclear physicists. I that I had no business interacting with on a bulletin board but I was able to dial into their schools or whatever I got sort of raised by Like a community. That was that connected Was able to mourn the loss of family members digitally and there was a community around that that would wouldn't troll because there was less anonymity get buried. Entry was tough the physically fight with computer to get it to scream at another computer to tie up a phone line to be able to exchange ideas and thoughts and information and to your point. Joe It was the this is going to be. What a magical Utopian future when anybody can connect and you realize there is no barriers. Were all the same. Doesn't matter where you're from. Were sharing thoughts ideas and games and criticism. Oh how amazing and look. We are kind of having that right now but the reality is yeah. I don't think anybody was aggressively. Maybe I'll just do optimistic. Somebody was opportunistic about it and was looking at the horizon saying Oh can exploit this. What tools can I make tonight? One person can appear to be four thousand people and spread disinformation up vote. False facts for really tragic takes on anything so that way when my father is on facebook gets poison thinking. Oh this is the right way to feel about any number of things from vaccines to corona virus. Because look fifty thousand. People have uploaded it and put their smiley. Almost that must be real and it should be the way I feel about it. I don't WanNa be the odd man out and I get that feeling. But I've watched him be slowly eroded just like I'm sure many have gone through with their parents or their neighbors or loved ones or either going through that themselves right now and it's it's really sad and no one was really at least. I certainly wasn't looking at the horizon going. That's where this is. Yeah we forgot that when anybody can get access to the information that means anybody can and a I think barrier of entries such a interesting concept to think about because you had to and I'm not saying once I I'm not saying I'm not saying a lot of things but I am saying that when you were you had be smart enough to get through that barrier of entry and there's there's a certain level in an intellectualism with that and I think like you said optimism and hope for what you're looking for but now that it's just anybody and everybody can easily influenced Mines are just getting when we say information. They're getting all the information but they're not taking the time to break it down and say why have you. Nobody asks that question anymore. I've been confused on one new subject that keeps popping up with the conservative in the conservative Echo Chamber is about this voting by mail thing and how like apparently it's the most terrifying thing in the world but like. I grew up Republican. My parents always voted by mail. And then I'm like look getting on facebook and all of a sudden this is like a banner cause for them and I'm like who who put this idea in their brains that this is now the bad thing when it's always been fine and just like I can only assume that it's like it's just you go further and further in that world like if you get into one thing the algorithms going to just keep giving you a little bit more in a little bit more and then that's how you end up with five G. conspiracy theorists because they go from a logical place of being like okay. I'm this makes sense to like bigger. It's like a slip slip and slide sign it. It also doesn't help that you know governments institutions. Whatever I mean. Certainly media has bias. We all know this you know and you can kind of pick and choose the poison that you want. Facts are facts but the truth is the interpretation of it and I'm going to align. With whatever truth I agree with because that reinforces my opinions and doesn't challenge me too much easier ways to do that. I was a I was thinking about the media the whole biasing. Well they don't they. Don't they only report the bad stuff? They don't report the good stuff but I'm like the president. Doing good stuff is just the president doing his job. That's not news. Be News do baseline normality from. You're doing good scouts. So of course at but you know like certainly certainly administration's not just our current one previous ones as well have certainly lied and put out disinformation as well so. I don't begrudge anybody for saying if this was untrue than of course five G. turning the hot pockets it's actually not a big elite four steps. That's the title of the PODCAST. I'm surprised hot pocket on your everyone's doing I'm like no thank you. Hey guys a little break for a word from our sponsors I up legal zoom zoom zoom Life is crazy right now. 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They're doing everything they can because they know you spoke that into remote with the TV's it actually grabs portions of the image that you're watching no matter what input you're on you can be playing your xbox it could be playing something off of a screen pass whatever it grabs still image of your screen and sends it back home so they can analyze it and know what you're watching when. Oh Oh no my family. Confuses the fuck out of those rides porn patrol report? Sometimes they're going on at the same time they don't know what's going on the board in Cobb patrol picture feature born patrol porn. Patrolling Advertise Marshall. Marshall we got chased. We got rebel. We got writer and we got Jane Jamieson. And it's the best team that I've ever seen ever on my screen. What a weird ven diagram of a joke. Who's GonNa tell people because I mean you're telling all of us about this whole thing and it's like this sounds like something everybody should have? Yeah sounds like a trick to make us Google it and find out that this isn't a thing at all and all the images are born. His hardy little hot pocket. It's a little bit across a whole lot of cream. It's Kevin's squibb. Show is my favorite joke in the pot. Go Pie whole agenda. It's thirty days free and you'll be able to watch it on your TV because we all know that was the problem with the headline that they were blaming. Cova on yeah on the poor launch of a thing designed for me you when they made that thing. They were sitting there in their in their meetings. Man You know what really just fucking set this off like a rocket to kind of like pandemic now. I'm not saying if we had one. He Goes Joey with his pandemic. Talk conspiracy if you told me part of the billion dollars. Berg was on first class plane tickets to on to like see viral campaign to make sure they run up on qube would say yeah checks that makes that's a better use than lasting food at people's faces and try to cook the dish based off what's left in their sinuses. Which is one of the shows on quitting no I thought you were spitting that copay because we're interested to a cannon blast into people's faces and then they put time on the clock for them to recreate the dish of what is in honor around their person. Steve Signing never mind okay. Yeah that's not working. I like it as a segment. I like it as a twitch. I like it as as anything but something I have to pay money for. I mean you're right. A twitch channel is such a more fun idea and then. I'm more interested to see it. I'll donate to get items into the blender before you blasted in someone's face. Yeah totally subs you. Put in a brick great. Of course the will it blend guy there to like do a thing is he. Put us well. You got put his ashes and that's right that's right that's right you know. I don't know I'm sure he's totally fine. Confused Everybody Shit. He did no no no he's not. He wasn't cremated his living. Trust said he had to go into a giant blend tech. He wanted to know dust. Will I bled? Yeah that's what happens when they read as will like when everybody comes together and they're like all right so here we are. Just take him out in the shove them. They don't even cut them up into sections they just do the comedic thing where they're just taking him full body chopping them down like someone's listening to you. Got a pulse. It can't pass. I guess about one fourth. We'll blend so far. We've got a ways to go back. I watches are still alive to because someone someone can show him. This and I'm sure he'll love it. Let's see what what so. What the fuck else. I'm I'm losing my agents doing with your quarantine you have you taken up hobbies. Are you have your porn searches become incredibly sick What's going on? I mean I just? I'm playing a lot of animal. Crossing the Snyder cut you were saying is going to listen. I I showed my girlfriend district nine last night. She did that go over. Well not not really. Did it not go well? Well it's Apparently it's very intense movie. Yeah and that was not appreciated after watching a flower competition. Show for eight hours straight. It was too intense. It was too violent and I don't get to choose what to watch now was like because that's like finishing frozen to then saying let's put on enter the void right radical right from flower competition into that. Kevin it might as well been across fade from one to the other. We're just like I need to see district nine or what was I was like? I WanNa Watch a movie that has a story and like a script and like actors and and I just I I was then I know we get bored in movies really easily. So this'll be good. This isn't a boring movie. I remember it being great. Yeah And Very Fun and entertaining kind of funny because everything goes so poorly. Everything you're saying is true and I was wrong though I was still wrong. Breyer upset it was it was it was a lot. It was a lot of just in from about halfway through the movie at the halfway mark. She turns me and she goes. This is very intense. And then she repeated that statement about fifteen. What is happening? What is going on? You finish the whole thing we did. Yeah we finished all eight of those movies and did she have anything to say. It was and one. That's issue. What did she say when it was all over? She just kept breathing. Deeply and going. Yeah thanks what a ride. Yeah that's what I have been up to do you. Do you think that with proper set and setting that would have been more well received? Maybe with the proper set and setting is like who even could guess would that would be I think it was just too much. Maybe after the flower flower comp odd. Yeah which is pretty boring. I was pretty excited about it. You guys is. I'm pretty into those types of shows like the lego master and the the Great British bake off. This is the flower one is not I would pass on it. I'll end that part of the conversation. But that's an amazing frigging movie. Absolutely I love it. I love it. I loved it so much more time. Watching. It has a great moment at the beginning where the main dude turns to a worker as they're going through and visiting all the aliens and he goes. Don't wear masks to mass. You look like a sissy and he takes the mask and then later he gets the guy he gets sprayed in the face mask. Yeah that's got to be percents of name. I have been a Rogan. Put It on his instagram ads. I think his was the like you are You're less than or your assembly or whatever. The word of the make is if you wear a mask while driving. That's the one that's the while driving. But there's no shortage of freak outs in Costco or Ralph's or a TJ Max over people who feel like it's their right to shop into private place without a mask look heroes walk among. Us takes a level of bravery to the Snyder. Cut is actually every super bowl not wearing raven. Superman has his goatee back. But he's wearing a mask now so you can't see it down and then the cat but holes are just by their mouth sorry I think CDC guidelines dictate that. I think all three of you. Your facial hair not good for the personal protective equipment. Gpa certified there's gaps because of the facial hair. You just gave me reason to shave mustaches. Okay though apparently can be okay. I don't I don't think you're supposed to fucking who knows. Wow I didn't trip a Costco Kevin. I'll just have the boy do all my shopping for me to the store. Have you done because I was doing all deliveries for a long while? I started going for my neighbor. I got I got family. I got people that I created with my body and have to feed them. And so I've gone out it. I was GonNa say you guys don't want have to hit like it's worse to have to hear about them wanting to eat than actually better so I've had to go probably on average every two weeks and it started out with a lot of anxiety at first but now it's kind of become the normal and it's it's not it's not fun it's got one you're worried about yourself and then to you're worried about everybody else that's there and who's who's doing it right and then you get home and it's not put the stuff away it's take everything out. One by one sanitized the hell out. Right sure L. Deluge added when you guys start shopping for a family of four. You'll realize how much fucking food that is every two weeks. It's not for me. That should be any day now. I've got Alana's going about to pop. So we're we're doing mostly the Amazon Amazon Yeah I was Amazon Post meets but I did. I went to the the old. Tj Is. I saw what Joe was trading and People were way way more polite. They're very nice and the Arrows. Dictating where you go through store. I'm not mad at that and I don't need somebody breathing down my neck while falsifying. You Know Gluten Free Gum. You're six feet away. When we were in Palm Springs. We went to a Walmart and I have not been to a Walmart and quite some time and that was awful and it it were so low skew. I don't like deals. I don't like saving money. You see how far they rolled them back a little too far. It's all I'm saying. Maybe it whatever you you can't beat the prices go up but we walked in ruining communities competitive precedence. Sorry we're helping working families. Save money and lose. It's pays off but the every time you get political. We fill your quadrant in with a commercial for the Snyder cut. We've got you'll see all of Aquaman in there now just a little bit more locked in to the Walmart and there was a hamster loose and invest and it was greeting you know. Just Ralph Ralph. This was a full hale and it was running around and it looked like instagram like leaked into Walmart because it was so cute and adorable and on its own just walked like jumping down the the and I was like I'm wearing a mask and everyone staying socially distant and I was like I want to get this hamster like really bad like I WANNA. Kinda hold this hamster and so I start going toward the hamster and then someone else comes. And the social distancing was like and then this woman who was kind of. Let's say rough around the edges. Maybe a Walmart Person. If we're talking colloquially she grabbed the hamster and I was like Dang I really wanted and she ate it and I was under my mask catch took the she really wanted to like pet that hamster like I haven't seen a hamster stores like a kid and I was so excited but then we never saw the hamster again and we never heard the intercom Say That someone lost a hamster and the hamster and so this was a dream you had last night. So let's let's Walmart this bat enroll a back a little bit hamster the end of the puck hamster in Walmart because Walmart ain't Sellin hamsters means either. That hamster was buried in. This was a hamster the got like five a barrel hamster out on the LAM got out in like traveled outside of the House or twelve. Yeah petsmart next door that there should not be a hamster what the house their hamster my first thought was that they that Walmart must sell hamsters and then graze was like Walmart doesn't sell hamsters and I was like yeah of course one of those cell hamsters. I know that was a chance that it grew up in Walmart. That's the mayor of Walmart blue. You found the underground inside the Wall Society of Walmart. Is it possible Elliott? Chance chance that that was not a hamster that was going to be like maybe was like you know. Pizza Rats? Adorable could've been Some other sort of Vermont that maybe had a tale crop. Cutoff run over by a shopping cart. Picture the cutest hamster you've ever seen in your look teddy bear hamster right and then but all around it Walmart. That's where this was. This was like a pure this should. This should have been a hamster like a hamster show like a dog show but for hamsters. There was a perfect hamster. It looks like did its hair that morning I mean I have. I have an issue with you just being a casual observer of this and had no no further inquiry about it for anyone in the area whatsoever. Like I know we're in a quarantine we needed to be staying away from people but if it were me and someone else grabbed that hamster I would have gone up to that woman and asked her what the fuck is going on. Now she went to her. She was going toward the Walmart workers and looking for a Walmart worker. So but it was. Someone is out of my hands. As soon as it's ask sideline forget it at someone else comes in and says Texas then. I'm fine. How Fun Hero. The hero like. I wouldn't be go save money personally. I wouldn't be able to leave that Walmart without some sort of explanation. You should go into a Walmart and see how you WanNa leave the moment you walk in keep going into. It was like oxygen tanks. It hasn't changed at all. I still smell like pancake. Syrup in there. Every Walmart smells like waffle had the walmarts. Then there's a Walmart in Joshua tree which It's the it's the only place to really stock up on all the alcohol that you'd had essentially a mic prison because it was a McDonald's jammed inside the Walmart but then late at night they close off most of the entrance to it. And it's literally steel bars that come down to separate like the checkout area from the McDonald's and we happen to be Coming down from psychedelics myself about six others and were like we gotta get swords and light up toys and some nuggets. We're going to go back to the house so we should really stock up and we wandered into the Walmart and we were at the counter ordering our nuggets as the steel bars began to descend and I almost lost a good friend. That day has the panic and the next scratching of the unity little and also the casual drop of MIC. Prison was fantastic. Added to the fear and paranoia of like you know something that I don't know the marlins coming down you're laughing at me. I feel trapped. We just want our fifty piece mcnuggets. You're on where you on psychedelics. At the time. Or you're coming down so you were kind of we were. Yeah we I mean we were good enough to to commute to the walmarts to sort of go inside and handle the nugget. Purchase driver was My friend clearly was not yet and you know with the sunset that night is that the MIC prison. That has the Guantanamo play place you conform mic pyramid with the hamburger the base waterboarding station sweet and sour sauce. Good God all right well listen. We've allegedly one nearly killed. We killed an hour talking about absolutely but having so yeah. That was the mission we wanted to. I don't want to paraphrase. But I'm going to if you rewind to what one of the three false starts. We had Steve Said No. This is going to be great. We're GONNA like chat for a minute about nothing and then we get to go and do anything but this set up time. We're going to be done with this and I want to take this moment to thank our sponsors brought to you by wait real quick. Camc have cab. We haven't we didn't do the normal thing that you normally do these things like. What are you up to you right now? Is there anything you WANNA kick to you before you go projects all that stuff? Come on I if you you are a child at heart or if you have children make a show for Disney on Disney. Xt and soon to be the dizzy. Plus I think maybe I broke an NDA. But it's show called select. You may like it. You may absolutely hate it. But that's like most things in this world. I'd rather you feel some way about passionately. Then please hate it or please love it don't be ambivalent but it's called player selected on Disney. You can watch it. That's the thing that we make otherwise no hanging out having a good time. Kevin your lovely well-spoken human being. It's been nice having you on this podcast. Thank you thank. You was a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me. I wish you all the the the best safeness and happiness and healthiness and yeah. I'm not well-spoken you just saw ads. Hey do you want to hang out? Jake? I'm sorry I got a good all right. Well thanks for coming on this show Kevin. Do you WANNA point anybody to your socials or anything or out attack on on twitter. Bego all right all right. Well thank you my friend. I miss you so much and I'm so happy to get to joke with you and laugh. It's always laughs deal poker. You guys do poker's poker. I'll do the to while the yeah I'd get back into it. I have a. I have a group on a on an APP. So I'll I'll send it out. We every fine guys okay with people that aren't like like super good. Add up just want to hang out the UK with that percent. 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Dont Give Up

Cafecito Break

03:17 min | 10 months ago

Dont Give Up

"I'm doing office. Seato break live from God with my green microphone top green for prosperity. That is the language that I'm interested in. Anchoring extra as we move into twenty twenty you want me hint. They just want to check in with you guys how are you. I'm titling this segment today. Don't okay if up. Don't give up. It's very easy very tempting to give up when we get challenged when we face those it rains it pours moments where everything all of a sudden goes wrong in your life or get extra challenging. All of a sudden loved ones are sick. Passing away challenges at work DOC and there was your dream. They had just started and what happens to him. What happens to it? Does it die you with you at that moment. Do you put it on pause. Do you just say nothing. Good ever happened to me. This is proof of it is going to give up or maybe switching perspective or wearing different microphone top. That reminds you of if prosperity like what Rosetta has done here. Maybe it's that you're even Colson ever to getting so close to your dream to manifesting. Why is is that you feel and you want what it is that your heart desires so I just wanted to drop that little monkey in you and hopefully it serves as a point of inspiration mayhem there? I'm going to be a squeaky wheel to remind you that goths break and many many things are being. Just we're just all getting lost in the algorithm. The last ten years there's also very hard and challenging have also been so beautiful every warning. They've opened up the door way for us to find some of our soul tripe tripe family members and we keep finding them through our events and places like funny and all these heart vibe conscious minded minded community events that we are part of we attend and we support The Times are coning the magical children of Earth Test Michael Pereira. Our cousin once said and called this come together and do fun. Things like create and share poetry and laugh and dance in vibe and pray and sing and really just enjoy one another's company. This one is recommended it helps you feel less. Lonely reminds you that there's other people out there that are going through through challenges just like you are and you feel less alone so that is it.

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REShow: Mike Pereira. Hour 3 (01-21-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Mike Pereira. Hour 3 (01-21-19)

"Orig- is on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. Napa know right now, you can get a twenty dollars prepaid visa gift card by mail with the purchase of a Napa legend premium battery. It's durability and power make it the obvious choice for people who hate getting stranded by a dead car battery so pretty much everyone the Napa legend premium battery and twenty dollars back quality parts, helpful people. That's Napa know how no how participating Napa auto part stores and Napa auto care centers. Limit to household while supplies last offer ends two twenty eight nineteen. Our number three of our first day knowing what the match up in Super Bowl fifty three is right here from our eighteen C studios in the hometown of the NFC champion, Los Angeles. Rams unbelievable. I'll say I said it in a top of hour number two. If you missed it go to our app apple app store. Google play hit the link at the top of our Twitter handle to get that app. And make sure if you already have it to you had the updated new version as well. I was on that flight home from Seattle and the the Thursday night football game back in two thousand sixteen after prior to which they fired their head coach Jeff Fisher was that we fourteen contest. And it was a dreadful flight home. Nobody. There was thinking that they were going to be thirty six games away from the Super Bowl. Nobody not a single on that flight. They might have felt it believed that they had the right plan in place. But nobody was kind of feeling it that night. They just got blown out by Seattle Goff looked overmatched. But they've made all the right moves Kevin DEM off less need, by the way, one of the assistance. They kept was John fossil the special teams coordinator. And play that turn it all was that fake punt yesterday that Sean McVeigh on bottled at thirteen nothing. It was looking bleak in the Superdome. Big w now, I understand it was an awful non call. And we'll discuss that with Mike per coming up shortly. Mark Maskey of the Washington Post quoting to individuals, and these are new these are new terms for us. Right. Chris Brockman from this piece. Oh, one is a high ranking official with one NFL team. That's a new one. It's no. And another one is one person familiar with the league's into working inner workings. But that business card person familiar with league. One person familiar with the league's into workings. How do you fit that on a business card, very carefully? Yeah. By the way, del tufo on your business card. Your person familiar with the league's outta workings. True. That that instant replay. It will be there's going to sit down have a serious discussion about putting pass interference. And other non calls or calls into folded into the instant replay reviewable plays. And I say Joseba to that make all review everything in anything. Put it all in there. And Bella check, and Sean Payton or two coaches who have been pushing for this for years. I'm sure Sean will be pounding that table even harder now. We'll discuss it with Mike Pereira later on our number three phone calls have been terrific all day. We will take them as well. I promise you on that, Chris the there's an interesting story coming out of Philadelphia, and I wanna hit that right? Just kick off our news update from Chris Brockman brought to you by Honda. Brockman with federal live report. Rock men with the new twenty nineteen Honda Civic stylish. Dan is available with turbo charged engine and paddle Shifter's for fun. Proven playoff proven performance. Hardy local Honda dealer for a great deal on a game ready Honda Civic, Christopher what do you have over the gay? The Philly voice published a report today this morning which team sources describe a quarterback Carson Wentz as selfish uncompromising and egotistical cited more than a half dozen eagles players and other sources close to the team also described an uneasy dynamic within the eagles organization sources accusing Wentz of playing favorites. Failing to take accountability while describing Nick foles as universally loved several eagles players today have taken to Twitter to defend Carson Wentz. Those include lane Johnson saying whoever wrote. That article needs to check their sources, hashtag fake news. Carson has been in is our leader. And our quarterback, y'all know where to find me if you have any issues Zach ertz, took the Twitter don't believe everything you read Carson has been nothing. But a great person great teammate, great leader. All capitalized since day. One our locker room stands behind him all the way, we can't wait to get back to work and be the best team. We can't in two thousand nineteen footer Cox also took to Twitter reading to this Carson Wentz thing. And as the leader on this team, non of that is true. Carson is great teammate gripe player. We're all behind them hundred percent. He's our guy and we'll come back and prove the world wrong. If you got a problem feel free to ask me all respond. I gotta be honest with you. I haven't heard a single thing out of Philadelphia. Call Carson Wentz egotistical or anything of that nature. That's that's odd. That's a new one. I'm in heard I haven't even heard a hand or whisper on that front uncompromising. I haven't heard anything close to that about Carson Wentz. Nor does any of that come out in an interview. None of that comes out when you talk to none of it. You don't get that sense. It's weird. But I'll tell you what is going to be part of the conversation of the Super Bowl is the fact that Jared Goff has beaten Carson Wentz to the Super Bowl start. And nobody thought that about Jared Goff. When he was drafted first overall. We were here on the show that day when the Rams traded up into that one spot. Called right away got on the show right away. The current general manager of the Oakland Raiders, Mike Mayock, Mike. What do you think he goes? It's for once. It's for once. It was forgotten. We're all like Latin. So mean, that'll be part of the conversation as winces team made the playoffs both years in part because of the foundation that he built more two years ago than this year. I think foles got him in the playoffs this year. I think that they play up and then the way that they played in the playoffs. They didn't look anything like that under the underwent this year. It's just only gonna get weirder. And weirder until the the eagles make a decision. They've already come out. And basically said went to our quarterback for the most part. And now, what do you do with full? I think they they. Franchise tag him and see what they can do to make sure that foles doesn't wind up in giants or Redskins uniform without muddying the waters and making it any any particularly ugly piece of football business. What else you however there Chris? Well, if it's Monday, we got in Tonio Brown drama news. What we have today. He took to social media over the weekend, Instagram and post, a thank you to Steelers fans that could be construed as a good by the caption read one thing I understand about this fan base. And that I'll never forget an always appreciate your passion. No that it's all of this way. And I'm forever thankful for Steelers nation, then put putting parentheses this is not a good by just thank. But the timing of it was odd. He was being carried off the field in the picture that he posted. Okay. So my kids into the mass singer all of a sudden Zan loves the mass singer. So I watched an episode with them the Terry Bradshaw. And there was guesses that could be Rothlisberger. Like, wouldn't that be great? If if it's if it's banned in the last one village loving bell. It's all three, Mike. Thomas alley all three of them. Okay. Terry bradshaw. The first ever I overall selected quarterback to play in a Super Bowl. He interviewed the latest yesterday. Jared Goff only nine first overall drafted quarterbacks played in a Super Bowl. Only nine I'm gonna have one Bradshaw. Well, I let me see if I can get the list up here in Twitter. I can remember off the top of my head. I think it was the first was Bradshaw. Then it was Jim Plunkett they want. Yeah. Multiple ones Bledsoe played one ish. Oh, yes. Forget about that one on the Desmond. Our you know, Brady's not the only Michigan m V an MVP award winner. Then you've got ally. Peyton Cameron Newton. Jared goff. Number number was Brady again. What number pick was he one hundred ninety nine overall, sir. Thanks. According Schefter, multiple teams. Interested in Kareem hunt. You see him back in the league next year? I guess I'm sorry. Find somebody else to run the football. I don't want any part of him ravens near contract was just moving on. I know you're moving on. But let me just hit it right here. The other ones as well. Our Elway in Troy Aikman. All right. So the only one who has not won blood. So has one ring. Right. But started in one he did not. And Cam Newton. We'll see what golf does. And I just wanna hit this to just real quick on Kareem hunt. If I'm running team, I say sorry, you kicked a woman. And then you lied about it to your boss. I'll find somebody else to run the football. There's tons of people that can run full with Damien Williams that he scored three times in the fourth free quarter of the AFC championship game. Okay. So let's find somebody else to run the football. I'm running team. And then on top of it to, you know, maybe just maybe these are these are. There are some people who can find their footing and put their lives back together again and not be that person anymore. I'm absolutely saying that or you can look at that as really a window into somebody's personality. How did Greg Hardees? You see night go this week. Go got disqualified in probably one of the the UFC says, you know, what he didn't know the rules. He's going to get back there and let it let them figure it out that when somebody is on the ground and they have their knee on the ground. You can't take your knee and kick them in the head with it. But that's what I think I saw that after he didn't know the rules. He's not familiar with it yet. What else ravens nearing their extension with John Harbaugh as expected and Kellen Moore being rumored Cowboys new offense of heard. He's a he's one of those hot candidate rising stuff a hot boy. Yeah. He's a young. I mean, everybody's back. Use the backup there for a while. Yes. Indeed. Yes. Indeed. And in apparently, he's got a keen mind for this sort of thing. I like it but see what he can do here. Yeah. I like it. Why not? I mean, you've gotta be by the way different things the buck. Jalen Smith on the show this week was that she's crane. Just I mean, just a great individual. And it was me him and Willie mcginest in a in a segment together on live television. And I'm I'm realizing this on live television 'cause Willie is one of those guys when you meet him much bigger than you'd think much bigger just like Erlanger, he keeps going vertically play his body just keeps going he's one of the biggest linebackers. I've ever come across. And Jalen Smith is almost as big as really. Yeah. Yeah. That guy can go sideline sideline to. And he's a winner inside in his brain in his heart was very very Pannu a little bit that he went to Notre Dame. You know, here's what he did. He spent the entire he was with us the entire meeting, and then was with us the entire show, and I took pictures of him on set and I texted him to and we're like staying touch staying touch. Thanks. And then he goes, go Irish. Walked out the door. Nice guy. Nice guy. We got some last too early fun Super Bowl prop bets out is you're interested in some of these bunch and the national anthem. Of course, you know, the time how long would take I like this one. We'll Gladys Knight omit a word from national anthem. Sometimes people forget the word, you can actually lose American dollars on something you can get three to one for. Yes. Okay. Well, any scoring drive take less time than it takes Gladys Knight to sing the anthem. Well, she's coming in about one forty five where we have a less than one minute forty five. Second scoring drive. Okay. Well, she she'd be like Billy Joel that one year in Miami. When he was told specifically by NFL management. Please do not when you're talking to the press. Exactly how long version of national said what? He was in the NFL network green room this year. Prince did the mash the did the halftime show of and I'm from Staten Island, New York in walks Billy frequent Joel that is like the Red Sea is just part. Yeah. So fired up to see him. And I didn't wanna go up to him yet because I was interviewing him later in the day and NFL. Media relations official shall remain. Nameless said to him belly Billy when you go up there. And if anybody asks you how long the song's going to be we'd appreciate it. If you don't say it because people bet on that, we don't really condone that sort of thing, I'm paraphrasing. That's exactly Billy. Joel just nodded his head. Then he goes out. Press conference begins. He begins his preamble about excited. He is to be here. Again, he had done it before singing America, the beautiful or did that was national national anthem. And he goes, you know, what Donna before can't wait to do it again. You'll be about two minutes, two minutes, five seconds or so. Just set it. You wanna be a big shot digit? Refunding other fun ones. We'll fan on the field during the game. I'll stop it. We got a fan during the. Gam will the roof closed. We'll non quarterback throw a touchdown lot away. I bet you the Reuss going to be close right now. You see what the weather is going to be chilly, chilling con, Wendy. Well, they'll be a roughing the passer windy. Well, there now be a proper to how many how many predictions pre snap predictions Romo gets correct. That's great problem. Any quarterback throw for four hundred or more yards inside. Nobody's done that yet this postseason. But guess who's got the two best passing prolific passing yards games of these? Plus the forty one year old. Tom brady. Come on can't believe you back again. Crazy. All right. Let's take a break here on the rich Eisen show comeback. Take your phone calls before Mike Pereira joins us. What does he think of the idea of making everything reviewable? I think I know he doesn't like that idea that he's going to talk about it's gonna make the game longer. And you know, if there are more challenges it's going to be longer. He said that before I'm wondering if he's had a change of heart after seeing in person what happened yesterday in New Orleans. That's next on the rich Eisen show. Okay. This is the thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers at you. But please stay with me. And just fifteen minutes, you could say fifteen percent or more on car insurance. This company's been offering great rates and great service for over seventy five years in anytime, you need help you can speak to one of their train specialists. Twenty four seven the company is gyco. Go to Geico dot com today. So are for all the numbers and five four three two one amount of time. If you gear up for the biggest game in the NFL season podcast. One is teaming up with the underdog network to be your one stop shop for all things at ball as the big game draws closer. I don't disagree with you could be one of the ugliest games. Football of all time. Check out the underdog network every week on podcast one or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Geico presents unhelpful home improvement how to a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills. So today, I'll show you how to cook a serious fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just now a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the Geico insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how a forcible renter's insurance can be. All right. Mike Pereira calling in shortly from from Fox Sports. He was the the he's the rules analyst of note from the booth with. With Joe and choice calling in shortly here on the program. Let's go to lawn in Los Angeles been awhile since we talked to a longtime listener on his beautiful Monday as my loss Angeles. Didn't wanna boy clapping when you wanna crow a little bit. And I wanna tell you. Yeah. Is serious. The saints breasted the best quarterback in the NFL breath fogs unnecessary roughness, they beat up Goss quarterback. Kurt Warner God don't like ugly and he stole the game with the rest from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Karma will come back and get you. Laudi? Yes. Congratulations on your ass making the Super Bowl, man. I've been a real chance woman cable, Jack snow I even saw Jackson. No on the be what's television series. I'm gonna have parade down. Once your Bill would nothing, but my on. They were. Lawn in Los Angeles. Everybody rack in two weeks. We'll see if that's true or not. Yeah. I know what you're hearing about karma. Sean Payton's and excellent football. Coach, man. And they got hose, which is part of the reason why we're gonna have Mike per call in a matter moments. They got host. But there are some plays that were left out on the field. Rod Woodson tell me that all of the time that. Chuck knoll would tell the Steelers before game. You gotta play better than the refs ref. But that one was particularly galling this is no just no two ways about it. Pete in Richmond Virginia. How you been Pete? Guys had a good weekend two things real quick than they got for Conan one in the playoffs. Why can't somebody being New York and just call down to somebody and just simply say through your flag? They throw their flag. They always huddle up anyways on any penalty. So that the referee knows what he's calling. They them up. The New York goes in his ear. We have a potential helmet-to-helmet as interference call where in the process of reviewing, and then they just make the call that maybe is that may be that may be the way that it happens Pete went. But right now, the last thing that I think the league would want when it's not and thanks for the call Mike is called in the is lasting that. The league would want is when it's not get codified in the rule that somebody from New York calls in and makes a call that somebody on the field should make. I mean. Benjamin Watson whose career is. Now over unbelievable is tremendous playing career fifteen years he had appendicitis this week. He could not go. And if the saints at one in they thought he'd be ready to play in the Super Bowl when it got put out there that the league is considering making pass it to Fearance reviewable off of yesterday's game. He retweeted that saying or have the guys call it when it's should be called. I know it's that simple. Sometimes Mike Pereira. Former head of NFL refs and foxholes analyst fresh back from New Orleans calling into the show. How are you Mike? I'm great rich. How're you doing fine? Okay. So let's walk through what he thinks going on in river on world right now. Well, it's not a good world to be in. I'm telling you. He's getting heat from everywhere including from upstairs in the league office. It's you take two games championship games. That ended in overtime. You know should have been grandba- for the league. Regardless of the fact that maybe some people don't like. You know, the overtime play with only one team getting the ball. It was as was the case with the patriots. But the talk is all about officiating, and that's not what the league and the talk has been all about really officiating for the last two years and and replaced been a huge part of that. And you know, we got an interesting player here in the mix, and that Sean Payton who is on the competition committee, and is going to go into those meetings starting in February at the combine with his guns loaded, and he's a tough guy, and he's gonna wanna walk out of that meeting in February. And then the follow up meeting in March with something that will address what happened, you know, at the end of their game. So I think we're on the verge of maybe taking a leap forward. I hope we're on the verge of taking the leap forward and finding a way to correct mistake. Aches like yesterday in twenty seconds. And if you can do that, and and really kind of really kind of take a bold step and looking how to do that by taking an eighth of fischel and putting him as a member of crew in a booth with replay quip -ment with just T and a a technology person with them and allow him to just get on the horn to he has communication to Bill innovation to immediately say after the first replay Bill that was passed. I'm your crew member. I call them the sky judge, you know, Bill that was passed interference at the six yard line. It was also hitting defensive species, by the way, which both getting forced take the ball. Put it at the three first down play on goal. I think we're gonna have to look at doing something like that to eliminate these types of MRs, you know, Mike, as you know, I have opinions. I don't really opinions. I've got suggestions. Because I'm not just going to rail on something without offering a solution. I like that idea for the final two minutes of but you can't have some unnamed on known official sitting up in a booth somewhere calling down when a flag hasn't been thrown. If you've got fans in the stands looking for a flag, and they're going crazy. And then all of a sudden, some buzz down, you might think that somebody is is is reacting under pressure based on what a crowd did or not. You've gotta have outside of it. A an ability to challenge it you've got to have it. It's got to be a coach's challenge initiated unless it's in the last two minutes, but everything should be review -able and anything should be review. -able, mike. I don't think I agree with you. I don't think it has to be a challenge, and I'm not talking about a hidden guy. I mean, I'm talking about an eight member of the crew. No, I know. And I think listen you've got you've got crowd reaction inside of two minutes to where you're are you influencing the replay official upstairs to stop the game to take him. Look. I mean, I I I don't know if that's a relevant argument in my mind, all I wanna do is to figure out how to correct obvious mistakes obvious mistakes and do it without stopping the game for three minutes. And and listen technology's not going to get worse and officiating not gonna get better. I mean, it's so damn tough as it is right now. So you gotta look at the technology that is available and the speed that you can get it. And see if you can do something if it was me, I would go to the committee, and I would say, look, let's not make hasty decisions here. You know? Let's let's use the sixty four preseason games that we have prior to the two thousand nineteen season. And let's experiment with this. Let's put an eighth official in this booth. Let's. Let him officiate the game as the eighth member of the crew. And just like the crew gets together when there's a block in the back call and somebody has a different angle, he just he just another member here. And let's see if we can correct the correct the obvious mistakes. And if it works in sixty four games, then let's say in two thousand nineteen we put it in the playoffs to ensure that it doesn't happen. And then if it works, maybe then Dopp kit in two thousand twenty going forward for all games just think we've got a look forward and really kinda change how we approached officiating and technology to make it better without extending the game. You know, now, see that's. Now, you keep saying that Mike Pereira, you flout years I have been saying, let's make everything and anything reviewable. And you're like well that's going to extend the game. It's going to be too long. That's why I'm at least saying it's gotta be initially initiated from the coaching sidelines. Let's take a look at that. I saw holding and then put an actual limit on that. So not only do you can maintain a human element to officiating which I think is important even fans would agree that there's gotta be some of that. But let's make sure that it comes from the coaches you seen actual red challenge. Flag come out and say that should have been holding that should have been passed into set should have been this as opposed to an eighth official that we're not seeing. Okay. And then we're suddenly getting some sort of call out of nowhere on something that we didn't see like now, suddenly there's going to be an illegal contact that gets missed that. That's in the second quarter that suddenly is going to get called. I think people are gonna go absolutely insane. Let's not use it for every play. But let's make everything review under the actual construct. We already have in terms of finite number of challenges. Well, I mean, I just I see I don't think they'll do that. I mean, I think that's out of the question. I just can't see them ever adopting the Bill Belichick thing where let's and rich Eisen thing. Let the coach challenge everything because that that's going to lead to that's gonna lead the even longer games than if you did it the way that I'm proposing to do it because everybody says, well, you know, what we're not. We don't want to give the coaches more challenges while you're giving them more challenges because look at it. Now. I mean coaches don't have to challenge a turnover. They don't have to challenge play this ruled you know, score. And so you only have about one point three coaches challenges that game, let them challenge everything. And we know that under the current system they get to challenges and getting both right? They get a third might go one point two to five you know, challenges game. I just I just don't see them. I don't see the commit. Eighty doing that. I see them looking at something something, I think less dramatic. And I know that you're talking about the official that can't be seen. But you know, I just think that they could take some smaller steps to maybe. Correct. Maybe. Correct. Sick things in the time. It would take you know, for you know, them to correct to in actual replay challenge situation. Right. I just find it hard. You know, I've you look you've you things through the lens of of former official former head of NFL refs for somebody. Who's in the league office? I put myself in the in the shoes of a fan or on the catch fan. And I'm like sitting there thinking they're flag on the plane. Okay. No flags nominee their thing. Okay. There on flake. No flex is their flag from the booth no flags in the booth that play now stands I think that would just drive some fans nuts. But let's just in the time. We have remaining Mike Pereira. Foxsports lead of a head analyst of officiating of Fox Sports. I did that just a piston blandino off to give you that. Here. I'm in the talent. Let's give let's give some saints fans some clarity and potentially pound Fleischer to somebody lose their job over this. Do you know why not well I mean, so you've got the guys through fifteen fifteen games of the regular season and playoff game previously to this. You have guys that performed at the highest level the highest level. And so that breaks down to one play at the end of the game where they make a bad miss. It is a bad miss. So you're gonna fire them you're gonna fire two of your best because they missed a call. I don't think you do that. Now, you take a look why. And do you maybe think about ramifications of you know, of a fine of some course like that? I get worried about that. Because once you start finding officials for calls that they don't make you're going to lead them into call on really ticky tack stuff because they're going to be. Be afraid of a firing. And so I think you have to look at the whole body of work, you know, a guy performs during the course of the season. And if it is bad, and if he was a if he was what they call the tier three official, and he made a mistake like that in a championship game. You know, then maybe I consider tier three officials the ones that are performed badly. All year, don't even smell the playoffs. And so I would have a hard time looking at the overall strength of my program fire and two guys who performed great over the last couple of years, and especially this year, you know, I hate to admit it. But I've seen why open receivers dropped passes. And but and it big and big times I've seen defensive lineman lineup offsides on and the plane's up in an interception. Do you fire him? I think that's being a little bit unreasonable. Okay. Then let me ask you a couple more questions here. How how do they miss it? I mean, walk me through what the. How does that get missed by everybody on the fan? I can't you know, I look at mechanics. What we always talk about. You know, you talk about at the snap man's own ball on passing plays. You've got five eligible receivers. You've got five officials around the two in the line of scrimmage in the three deep each have an official. And so coming off the line, you go man, you have a ball. You have a man you have a receiver that you've got a clear the line of scrimmage, and he goes into tone, whatever receiver comes into years on you take him. And then when the ball goes in the air, everybody goes ball, and to me there were three officials to primarily that had perfect looks of this. And they froze I mean, I think that, you know, this whole notion of you know, subconsciously, you know, trying to make the big call. They're never told directly at all to let them play never. But I think once you get into the you know, the playoffs like this teams do play a little better. And you, you know, you wanna stay away from the ticky tack stuff that the. May have called earlier. I don't know. But it's it's inexcusable. I mean, I can't I can't offer anything to defend them in this situation. I I've always felt like it's a bang bang play that you're better off not calling. This was not a bang bang play. And this was a defender that was not playing the ball. This was a defender that went high and made contact to the head or neck area. And nothing came out of that nothing came out of that from anyone of the three, and it's gonna live gonna live with that, you know, not as long as the saints fans in the same players are going to have to live with it. Because you know, they'll be back on the field, of course, next year old so, but it's I can't I can't come up with an excuse other than they just pros cuts and then another one for you. Here's Bill Venevision speaking to a pool reporter afterwards was asked about the planes. I I didn't see it. I haven't seen it yet which infuriated saints fans even more their possibility that the league. Addresses on on on how things like this are addressed for fan base seeking answers immediately. Mike, well, you know, to me I'd like to see it, quite frankly address from the league office right after the game instead of instead of the official because you you know, you did the thing in real time. And you they send a pool reporter. And then you haven't even seen it on television yet. So you make yourself look worse. They only let the referee talk, and you know, and he'd rightfully so he didn't see it. I mean, he stays these days with the quarterback. So that's not his view at all. But I I would agree that the you know, that the response wasn't appropriate to the act, but to me I'd rather I'd rather have. I'd rather have the league office as they addressed it with Sean Payton afterwards apparently in the conversations with our Veron. I I would rather be some mechanism that if there was a pool report requested that it could actually go to the league who at least could be involved in the, you know. In the statement. I mean, it was on the scoreboard. And I understand that there. He's still an official trying to officiate a game. But there's no way. He didn't look I two more questions for you. Mike Pereira before let you go. Okay. I one from the the rush. I mean, I'm always happy. Now. I know that I know that you know, I've got I guess my own time constraints in a way for the on the clock. So the overtime rules any any any appetite to allow a team that's given up a touchdown the chance to respond with touchdown. Why? No. I just think it went long enough with the you know, feel feel ending the game. Which was not pleasant to anyone that they they had a hard time pushing this through to get it to you know, to possessions, if the I did not score a touchdown. I think they pushed as far as they're willing to go. And I think the value of being able to play defense and then winning on a field goal. You know? In your only opportunity to when you get the ball back. I think is enough. And I just don't see them moving on that at all. I don't think they should really. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, maybe the MVP this league. And even get a chance to touch the football understand play me don't blame me blame his defense than if you want to. But you know, I think the I think the system is good. I don't like the college system. I think it extends the game in many cases too long. I just I just don't see that. There will be a movement there. Okay. And last one for you. And you know, I love for you to name a name like when you're the head of NFL refs. The toughest phone call. You had to make after one of your ficials blue something on the field to coach just like river on clearly had. That's got to be the toughest he's ever had to make the wanting to Sean Payton yesterday, Mike. Yeah. Well, what was yours? I I mean the toughest situation I ever got involved with really was the not the tuck play situation believe it or not. But it was the bl- the missed call in the forty nine or giant game. And when when the the giants attempted to kick a field goal, and it was blocked, then they threw it actually an eligible receiver who had an ineligible number. We lost track of him. And you know, and it should have been pass interference. Which would have certainly kept the giants alive and probably propel them to the next round of the playoffs that call that. I had to make the giants was a was a really tough call. We what's his name come on by my blanket kid is the special teams coach for John Jim fossil. I had to call on. So go possible and was not a happy man with a happy man at all. And then I wanted to make myself feel better. So my. Second call with Mary you cheat to tell him that. I was gonna make public statement that we we blew the call, and I didn't want to give the impression that I was lessening the value of their victory by admitting this mistake, and I called mooching. I said mooch, I just I just want you to know that I'm gonna make this statement. And he said to me bummer up the phone. And then he said publicly, then he said bummer publicly. I know he told you the same thing off the off Mike to that was his response to my call bummer bummer that make made your life. Worst, isn't it? When he said, no, I have appreciated. I'm always appreciated Mucci anyway. And you knew it when he said that have you know, how his mind works. Anyways. Something that he would say at home or whatever bummer and hung up the phone and on C consistent. Never heard that end of the story. Fantastic. Mike great chat with you. Great job. As always we'll see down the line. 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We couldn't get to today like Mike, Mike del tufo, Instagram post. Where there's more women into each each time. He's posting shots of him watching football games. John. So maybe we'll do that. And is in overtime. We'll do that there. Let's think in one more phone call here in Colorado. Let's get to Ken here on the rich Eisen show. What's up, Ken? You know, I know what it feels like to lose an important game. What pity your stomach feels like you? We all know what drew Brees has meant to football here. Forty years old and a chance to go and win a Super Bowl. And then it was stolen from him. Can you imagine how he feels? He's got to be lower than low right now. Ken. I'm sure All Saints fans are upset. But again, we're just all you know. I look, you're right. And thanks for the call. It was a terrible call it. Just just a terrible call. We have no idea if somehow the senators the senators and step on his foot suddenly the ball's rolling around in the Rams recovered. We don't know where Suming they take the clock down to the very end and kick the field goal, which could have been blocked. I mean, Cody parkey got his ball tipped. And it got it. You know, Greg's airline could have missed any of those field goals and shown up on the today show this. Week. I mean, the saints won the toss got the ball. I troops. Threw an interception. Going the question when I asked me, do you think these are the two best teams playing in the Super Bowl? I do because they want that's one that's one. There's adversity everywhere and championship Sunday everywhere. Peter King told us the patriots put an play earlier in the day. They put an eight new place popped out in overtime helped him win the game. One of the that they could have or they did. And then we don't know about it because the patriots beat him in that wants net nonstop it's one after another after another after another when it all comes down to it. 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"Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast fits is back. Spain is here. And as I said on HQ today. Let's get it cracking. 'cause wow. Yeah. It was a we were talking about snoop calling a hockey game. He was really into a fight. And he was like, let's get it cracking goods. I want to start every show. Now, do you think it seems organic do you think it seems like us can we cut the audio of that? And just make that the real lead in every show. Just snoop interest snoop are hyphen vary on brand we both have a ton of street cred. Well, you know, I scream street. That's you do I shouldn't say that you do. Spain and Fitz Jason Fitz. It's back on ESPN radio the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty and. Yes, field Yates was in yesterday. We talked about a whole lot of NFL related stuff after a big week in football. But fit says them differing opinions, and we're gonna get into some of the same stuff with the different point of view. And I'm ready for a fight. I don't fight often. But I feel like occasionally today we might come to blows. And that's fine. It's fine. It's healthy. It really celebrate. Eighty and Bill Belichick can hang out for nineteen years with a couple of tips and still be working strong. I think we can get through a show where we disagree on a couple of things. But I think I hope we're going to mostly agree on the first thing, and that's this past interference. And whether it's reviewable or not in the NFL is apparently going to be discussing at great length along with other fouls. The potential for coaches to challenge PI calls defensive PI that guts non called defensive PI that is called that someone takes a difference too. And that is not surprising at all the call against the saints. Rams game was so agreed just and so obvious that it feels like it was inevitable that the NFL was going to react right fits. Well. Yeah. I mean, I think we expect some sort of conversation from the NFL, but I also don't think that the NFL moves quickly. And one thing I have to say loud about pass interference in the concept that it may be reviewable. I'll never forget last summer. When I was sitting in that rule seminar that that, you know, the NFL rules people came in and they had all the brains of the NFL from ESPN sitting there and Bill Polian was part of the competition committee during his career ESPN and Bill Polian stood up at one point when we were talking about quarterback rules, and we were talking about sort of the rule changes going into the season that everybody was panicking about. And he said, look there's three things you have to have to make a rule change number one. It has to be able to be clearly explained number two. It has to be able to be clearly seen in defined and number three that has to be able to be clearly coached so for as much as this conversation. Like, we want to sit here and say what's going to be reviewable? They've got to fall into line with some different things parameters. I'm not sure they're gonna figure that out quickly. So anyone thinking that this is the catalyst for media change? I would say I don't expect the NFL to do anything progressive or quickly. Yeah. Quickly, certainly not. But it feels like things on this. Big of a stage are the ones that get people talking to get things changed as Bryant catch rule changes. 's two thousand nine NFC championship. Saints went on a field goal. Overtime rules change tuck rule. Sorry. You know, things happen at a big level that caused a big stir. And that's what causes changed. Now. Interestingly enough, this call was so agree GIS that saints fans or legitimately threatening suit against Roger Goodell, and the NFL claiming that you know, they've suffered emotional damage that they no longer believe and trust in the game at least two different lawsuits. So far compelling Roger Goodell to try to use his powers to replay the final minute forty nine of regulation. This of course, comes after people found a part of the NFL Rubik that claims that the Commissioner's powers are able to be enforced in case of an extraordinary act that occurred in the game. So everybody's been talking about this fits including us on our show yesterday. We said we don't think it's going to happen. It seems unlikely that it will ever be used to. Actually replay a game. But we all have talked about it and a producer on HQ today pointed out, very smartly in a Washington Post article that just above the section that talks about Roger Goodell's ability to replay part or all of the game due to an emergency. Or extraordinary act. It says right above that. Quote. The Commissioner will not apply authority in cases of complaints by clubs concerning. Judgmental errors or routine errors of emission by game. Officials games involving such complaints will continue to stand as complete sir, sir. We're gonna we're going to run that say to you. We this is a shining moment. Yes benefits. We might be the smartest show on the internet. We only on the radio we are. We are the smartest show every and looked you mentioned it you guys did it last night. Mike, and I talked a little bit golden junior. And I talked a little bit about it yesterday. Like, we all sort of fell hook line and sinker into. Oh my God. Look at what they're is here. They can make a change again. The real rule as you just said, the Commissioner will not apply thority in cases. Now, I lost the screen. I had the screen go. You need. I got I got he were ruining it already. We had a shining moment. And with each passing second. We're just chipping away. I'm too excited about it. The Commissioner will not apply thirty in cases of complaints by clubs concerning. Judgmental errors or routine errors of emission by game. Officials. That means there's nothing that Roger Goodell could really do in this situation. That is a tough message for everybody to hear. But frankly is kind of smart like I don't think we wanna live in a world where the Commissioner can just come in all willy nilly and start changing things. So for all of the conversation that's been about what could have happened nothing can happen here. So it brings us back to the question of should pass interference become reviewable that is one change that can be made for the future of nothing can be done about. Now. What can we do about the future and Sarah? I think we agree. I have no problem with penalties becoming reviewable place. Yeah. So here's the here's the important thing that needs to be taken into account here the specificity of how. And when a lot of people are saying, we don't want to add more delays more reviews. We. Don't wanna make the game more whistles and stops. The argument is not to make all of these plays automatically reviewed. It's that they now are under the purview of what can be challenged. You still have to use your timeouts and challenges wisely. You still have to have it available for you. If something agreed just like this happens, but it is allowed to be challenged. And a lot of people have argued in the past subject. A subjective judgmental calls shouldn't be included here. But fits as field rightly said last night. What's a catch is now Justice objective as what's they're going through the same checklist. So it's not any more of a judgment call. Then a lot of other things that are review -able. So as long as there is specificity when you go back to review it about what you're reviewing. I don't think there's harm in it. The problem would be if you said let me go back and review this. And then they said, oops, we missed a holding here. We didn't notice this guy step out of bounds and came back in extra player on the field. Right. It needs to be nothing. Can because I mentioned this last night a couple years ago. John FOX challenged. Benny Cunningham thinking he got a touchdown, and they called it the one. Instead he fumbled it into the end zone. It was a touchback. So his challenge took away the play altogether. And it was because while we're at it. Oh, look, we didn't even notice that. He fumbled. Right. So we don't want it to be something bad happened to our team quick. Let's challenge and see if they can find anything to make it go away. It needs to be challenging specifically that this was or was not a PI will that would align with the way the referees currently handle reviews. It should be noted. Again, I learned in the summer that when you call for view on something only that portion of it is review -able. So even if they're if they're looking at one portion of the play, and they find another penalty in the in the interim which could happen now in theory, if they're looking at a catch what what keeps them from also seeing pass interference in the play. But they're not allowed to do that. They're only allowed to look at the specific part of the play that has been challenged. So with keeping that spirit in. In place to me, it makes challenges even more valuable, and it makes coaches have to be even more considerate of when they're going to use them. Because if you if you're looking at it, and in my mind, I'm with Bill Belichick, whose long said everything should be challengeable in my mind. If in the first half you've got a big touchdown. But there was holding on tackle you don't believe tackle is holding fine use your challenge. But understand that you're using your challenge. I mean, you're gonna have so many more plays open to it coaches are going to really have to concentrate on when they wanna use challenges how they want to use challenges, and what's worth at what's not worth it. I don't see any dilemma to that in the in. The course of the game in the end the game will always be better. If it feels as though you got the call right now so created the end its benefits or Spain and Jason Fitz on ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance. Cars homes boats, motorcycles, RV's and more at Progresive dot com. Coming up what can be done to fix any of these issues? And what is the league already looked at? We'll ask former head of officiating. Mike Pereira next on Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and ESPN app Spain and. Fits. Well. We started off the season talking about how a lot of officials were retiring to go to TV a lot of young up and coming officials a lot of new rules. And we hope we wouldn't talk about it much. But it has dominated a lot of conversation this year, and none more. So than the conversation surrounding the championship games at Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio, the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz ESPN radio's presented by progressive insurance. And let's bring in an expert to talk about some potential rule changes than just how likely they might be on the shell Pennzoil performance line. We've got Fox Sports Mike Pereira. Former VP of officiating in the NFL, thanks for giving us some time. Mike we saw today that the NFL is going to look into the potential for reviewing or allowing the challenging of defensive PI's or non calls on PI's. How realistic do you think it is that this actually gets done? Well, I think is really realistic for no other reason charm Payton is on the competition committee and these come in loaded for bear. And I think what the comments that you know, that were made by the ownership group in in New Orleans to me, I think it's going to be elite discussion, and and I make there's probably was going gonna be discussion even before that is to whether maybe it needs to make reviewable plays that involve illegal use the helmets because there were too many misses with that. I do expect some change to come out of it. Now, you know, it's it's kind of senseless to go back and break down. What happened? It's an obvious miss. Everybody knows it, but you got to look forward and say, what can we do to make sure this doesn't happen again? And and I'm up the feeling that technology is getting better at a much quicker rate than officiating is, and I think we're just gonna have to realize that we're going to have to let technologies sneak into the picture a little bit more. And correct. Some of the obvious mistakes that are made and I wanna do it outside of replay. I really don't wanna do it in replay. Because there's so many stops already in the game and to have more replaced ops to me creates a real fractured game. And so I I would like to see them really sit down and discuss whether they should go from seven fficials seven officials, which they have now to eight officials call the eighth official coma sky. Judge put them in a room, you know, with the monitor he's part of the crew he's not replaying maybe can make a media corrections by getting on the communication system with the referee and say, hey, Vinny Bill vukovich, you said it they could just say I got the angle it's clearly interference. It's person goal for New Orleans at the six yard line. Make the announcement. Let's go it'll take his fifteen seconds to clear up that mistake. And may look a little funny. But I I think that's really workable. And it gets a better solution. Than trying to make everything reviewable or in this case a lot more judgment calls reviewable. But some really Don how do you reconcile saying you want more technology to be involved because it's necessary. Now that we have it with. I don't want to be technology though. I just want more people. Well, no, I want it to be technology. I want that eight guy to run the technology. I once that guy to have access to the TV view right away. And you vs on a replay got it. Okay. Yeah. Versus on a replay. And she you could you could I could take the play with the roughing the passer that was called for the hit on Tom Brady. That's not roughing the passer. I could see how it looked like it from the referee standpoint. But this crew member who just happens to be sitting somewhere other than with his feet on the grass as you know, just a quick calls. Gotta clear look that was contact with the shoulder with the arm. Not the face pick. It up gets picked up. A and we go controversy goes away. I think you could correct six things if you used a a they mechanism like this. You could correct six things in the time. It takes to correct one in a replay stoppage which always lasts three minutes. So I think it's functional timewise, and I think you correct more mistakes. And and look at nobody wants to be left with the taste that they've got. In their mouth right now. After what happened in New Orleans nobody including the officials we're talking to foxsports Mike Pereira on the shell Pennzoil performance. I'm former VP of officiating you can follow him on Twitter at Mike Pereira, Mike that might be the smartest thing I've heard about how to handle this officiating situation in a long time. So why isn't league already doing this? Well, because nobody's really talked about this before. I mean, there have been some discussion. And and you you have to look, and here's the second part of my proposal. I mean, you have to look to see, you know, what are the unintended consequences of? And they're always are some of those. So as I've said a couple of times today, I would take this this eight official, and I would I would actually do it in all sixty four games of the preseason prior to the two thousand nineteen season. And then and then I would look, and I would analyze it. I would analyze it to see how it worked what the problems might have been. And if you can take all that data and work at two. Where you could put it in. And this is what I would say don't do it for the regular season yet. Because you haven't really studied that long enough but bring it back for the playoffs in two thousand nineteen and if it all works then started in twenty twenty in the regular season. I see there's there's just so much tradition. This is the way that we've done it in the past. And m I really think we have to we have to get past that, and you know, fulltime officials. I'm just sorry. But it's abandoned that that doesn't accomplish anything you get twenty four guys and you make them full time. Well, what are they doing? They're not working anymore games. They're you know, they're going into the office once in a while to look at some video, but that's that's that's a bandmate to me. So it's time to take off the bandmate and try to try to put stitches on the wound and see if we can close the wound and do something. But you know, to me would be very constructive. Am I think this would be different and in? In. This would be an eighth member of a crew. It wouldn't be able league office employee trying to interject his opinion as to what the call might be. It would just be an official who's in about with the video capability that can run it back and quickly make your correction. You think that was a face mask? You know in the in the Rams play with the Goff running toward the goal line. I think it wasn't enough personnel. I think it was the old five yard variety. That's no longer a foul. But if it was could've easily called them. So you gotta face mask on the golf running play at the six yard line. Play ended at the four penalize it to the two on where we go and a mistake gets corrected. So I think it's doable. Talking to Mike Pereira Spain and fits you can follow him at my prayer on Twitter. We saw an official actually get let go mid season was pretty rare and surprising to see what if anything do you think will happen to the officials in the saints Rams game that blew this. Call and do you think the NFL needs to be poor transparent about grades and such after? Something like this at least to appease people's anger a little bit oil. Listen, everybody knows the call was wrong. I mean, and you know, they haven't made a public statement yet. And I don't think they really necessarily need to because everybody knows it was wrong, and Sean Payton was told that that it was wrong. And agreed that relayed that information to everybody look at. Here's what I feel like is that these officials three of them, by the way, cause any three of them could have made the call the you Byrom. I know you you don't look at their their their work is gauged on their fifteen weeks. If the preseason bet they work they get a couple of weeks off their their whole entire season work was so good that put him on tier one. So that they actually qualified to work a Super Bowl, but it turned out they got the championship game in instead. So you have these m I know I know all three of them were while they are really good officials who I think got caught up with a sub consciousness of not wanting to make. Ticky tack call at a big part of the game. And it all happens very fast. And I think they got a little complacent, and they just missed it. So do you fire them for missing the judgment, call that you get rid of the three and then bring in three other people that aren't nearly as good as they are. Then you hurt your overall program? Do you find them ten thousand dollars and then at the result? Then are they going to get back to being more technical and call more fouls? Look at everybody makes mistakes. Do you let the Ford go you fire him because he lined up so far upside which cost Kansas City the game because of the interception that was taken away. I mean, these officials, and I know because I did it. I choke so bad in a playoff game when Denver and the chiefs played in ninety seven I've missed the most blatant illegal contact call that when a win against Denver, quite frankly. And I'll never forget that. And these guys are so into a fishing. We all are that when we make these blatant? Mrs like, this you couldn't you go ask them you could ask anyone of these three guys twenty years from now, what was the greatest call you'd ever made. And they'll say, you know, and I don't know. But I can tell you what my worst one, right? It was the no call Jim Shuki. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's no consolation for anybody in New Orleans. But I I on one mistake. I especially since it wasn't even you know. It's not a rule interpretation or enforcement. It was a judgment call. I would not I would not resort anything serious. Hey, Mike before we let you go. We are running out of time. So this has to be yes, or no, which is such an unfair thing to ask you Carter. Artemio? But go ahead. Do you think the NFL will change their overtime rules of the next five years? No, awesome stuff. Hey, thanks for your insight. Mike, really predate it yourself. Sports. Mike Pereira on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level. Make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today. Coming up we have four new hall of famers in baseball and spoiler alert, the first unanimous player ever. Coming up on Spain bits me till you without Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in its hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how DIKO proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out Spain and fits this sport. Oh sphere. Which is something. I invented last night. Finally, got it. Right. The first unanimous entry into the baseball hall of fame. None of those old stink in rules. None of this is the way it's always been done. Let's do it the way it should be done. Let's get it. Right. The first. The I finally we'll get into that Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the espionage app and Sirius XM channel eighty Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz, and yes, this is a cause for serious celebration for Maryono Rivera. We'll get to that. We'll get to that saved the balloons. We'll be there in a moment. Oh, there's blouse kicking ice cream to always can't have a party without cake. But also ROY halladay Edgar Martinez. Mike Mussina all elected into the baseball hall of fame today. We're going to have Tim Kirk on by the way shortly to talk about all of this put into perspective each of these guys what they did. And why they made it. But while we're on the topic of the voting Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds made little gains up from fifty seven point three percent. And fifty six point four percent last year to fifty nine point five and fifty nine point one. They've got three years left on the ballot. And fits a lot are saying that those tiny gains. Are letting us know that it's probably not going to happen. Although I wouldn't completely rule out a total seachange in thinking because we've seen it happen. With other aspects of sports where all of a sudden there was a big enough push that people who seem so set on something we're manage to be moved off their spot. Sure, I think all eyes are going to be on Clemens and bonds, and how this continues to grow. But it does seem like with that small jump time heals all wounds, not this one, right? I mean, that's that's what we continue to see. I don't feel better about it today than I did a year ago. And funny thing is they we've been together. Now long enough that I remember last year having these conversations about Clemens and bonds, and and what it was gonna mean moving forward. I don't know that the answers have changed for me at this point. I think the voters are still making a statement by keeping them where they are especially in a year where frankly if you read about these hall of fame inductees that we have now you're talking about four beloved guys the that all have great back stories, and it's like this feel good store. And then, you know, out of the side of the deal like going Clemens and bonds are also there too. So it's a it's just a weird situation that will hang over the hall of fame voting process for the next three years. Yeah. And I think like like we mentioned the experts will say if it's that small of a gain it's not likely, and so we might be every year getting continued referendum on how people feel about the steroid era. And specifically the the biggest names of it. Spain fit sarahspain Jason Fitz, but let's get back to Rivera because you just heard that sound coming in that was his five hundred save when he started his career. There was no such thing as a five hundred save man. And there certainly was no such thing as the six hundred save man, he ended up with six hundred fifty two saves in the regular season. Forty two more in the postseason and Fitz. I will give you a thousand guesses as to what the dollar amount he signed with the Yankees for out of his native Panama nineteen ninety was unfortunately already looked it up. So. Cheap. But I do think it's an incredible number might be the craziest number twenty five hundred. That's the he's bonus. He signed for out of Panama, and you wanna talk about a value under this. And I think one of the biggest dances, we sort of look at it and put it into context. His hall of fame vote is the postseason ERA in ninety six games point seven. I mean, you just think about point seven it reminds you why is the first time hall of Famer. Yeah. Let me give you a couple more because I found a great story from right after he retired that just gives you a a little bit more context. One hundred and forty one postseason innings that he pitched and he gave up a total of eleven earned runs. There have been twelve people to be on the moon. More people that have been on the moon, then he gave up earned runs in one hundred forty one post season innings. He was in thirty two postseason series over sixteen different Cobres, and he pitched a five hundred twenty seven hitters of those five hundred twenty seven to got to hit a home run sandy Alamar junior in ninety seven Jay Payton in two thousand after the two thousand World Series in which he gave a Homer to Jay Payton three hundred nine more hitters came to the plate against him in the postseason. They combined for zero home runs. He made fifty eight postseason appearances of more than one inning and allowed an earn run in six of them his era and those games of more than one inning and postseason point five three. Lord. He had forty four saves at the age of forty three saves by all other pitchers since the creation of the modern save rule at age forty three or older to more than he had alone. Forty six. I mean, the stats are they go on and on and they never cease to amaze. What does amaze is that finally finally baseball got it, right? Thank you. Now, drop the balloons. Gimme the confetti. Thank you the cake and the ice cream. I was so sick of it. And every year, I'm so sick of hearing to way, it's always been done. Somebody's going to say not on the first ballot low not unanimously. And finally, someone was so great. And of course, it was a Yankee. But someone was so great that they that they broke the rules that they said, let's stop doing things just because they've always been done that way and very anyone just tuning in. I think that's the most important part of this Mariana Rivera the first player ever to be unanimously voted into the hall. I mean, that's a statement to done it on his first attempt at the ballot. I mean that just shows you overwhelmingly in this instance, the writers went in and the the voters went in. And they did what was easy right in front of them. They did the right thing, right. Finally is too much for me to say, ooh, maybe their willingness to break. This unwritten rule of baseball means that we'll start to stop talking about the other unwritten rules and doing stupid stuff that makes no sense. Just 'cause it's always been done. One step at a time, sir. All right wants to Spain bit Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. More with Kirk coming up on the MLB hall of fame. But straight ahead a dilemma. Facing some Rams fans or more accurately. Former Rams fans coming up next pain in Spain and Fitz beta fit, Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz with you on ESPN radio the espionage up and Sirius XM channel eighty when we get back to the baseball stuff because Tim Kirk cousins gonna enlighten us on many things but getting back to football for a minute. Sometimes like, for instance, when the official pro shop for the chargers sends out an Email that says get your ficials San Diego Chargers merchandise, even though they're now the LA chargers, sometimes it takes a while to adjust to a team moving or maybe it takes a while to understand the nuances and intricacies of a fan base who lost their team to another city and really get a feel for whether or not they're in the mood for a joke and bring this up here on Spain and fits because Southwest Airlines thought they were being clever, and maybe appealing to fans of of a variety of cities of, but maybe they have a little. Something to learn about NFL relocation because they sent out a what they thought was a clever tweet that said is your team headed to the big game. We've added extra flights between the home cities and AT L parentheses that includes us Saint Louis, and it did not go well, actually deleted it. Because that's how much there was outcry from Saint Louis fans as many fans as might still be sticking with the Rams despite them leaving fits a whole lot of Rams fans that they'd rather watch paint dry. Well, and I gotta feel like sightless I feel like southwest was being opened. They're like, hey, then glued you everybody. Come one, come all. Like that's one of those moments where you feel like ROY. They said specifically we've added extra flights between the home cities and AT L. That includes you Saint Louis, not, you know, I get this. I just feel like whoever runs the social media. There might not be a big football fan might not understand what it means to lose a franchise. Because again for south west, it's either that or it was just really like an awful awful awful joke because Saint Louis is rightfully, you know, they're angry, and I can't blame them. I mean, it's it's hard when you've spent your entire life. You know for so many people rooting for team. And then the team has just taken away from you. And look we have the argument all day long about. Why teams relocate and and what they're looking for? And what's not being provided, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, what you have a lot of fans that have spent money time energy and fandom rooting for the the Rams in Saint Louis that are now watching this saying, what might have been what could have been and they're watching this team and as much as they may have seen this coming doesn't make it hurt any less if you live in Saint Louis, and you were Rams fan. Yeah. I remember feeling bad for a specifically Chris long because he had been on the Rams for a while during the lean years and living in Saint Louis, and then he's off the team when they moved to L A and start winning and I wasn't poor guy. But he went to the eagles. He won a Super Bowl. I was fine. The fans on the other hand are stuck in St Louis without a team. And it does sound like there are certainly a handful of Saint louisianans sate loosens losing Louis ins people from the St Louis we'll be watching the game. But a lot of them. Mm are saying. They would literally rather watch paint dry anything but the game. And I guess let's put it out on the one eight hundred flowers dot com. Twitter poll at sarahspain at Spain and Fitz at Jason Fitz. We always try to do this people who are not from Saint Louis will certainly vote anyway. But let's see if we can just ask Saint Louis vans. Are you did you stick with the Rams? Are you going to cheer for them? Or are you going to watch? Or when the when the Rams left you did you leave them. And this is a specific very interesting case because I the the Rams had to leave LA for Saint Louis. Right. So they stole somebody's spouse. Right. And then that's got stolen back. Are you as angry if you know you stole it? I well, I think that that's part of one of the interesting parts of LA in their phantom LA's to liberators town. Right but LA stole the raiders from Oakland in theory. And then Oakland stolen back. And so like there's this. But at least they're close, you know, you can get from one to the other pretty easily when you're talking about L A to Saint Louis to LA. I mean, it's not like you can just hop. A southwest flight. Most Sundays and say, all right. I'm going to go check out the game. Like, that's not really a possibility for you. So if you're in Saint Louis, even if you stole him, you still like you had this generation where you watch it. And then you've got the greatest show on turf. And you had this whole like Kurt Warner era in it. It just sort of the city could come around it and embrace it. And I got nothing, and you don't really feel like you've got great hopes for an NFL team coming back to you. So you've gotta decide you're either gonna root against the rent. Like, do you just throw away all your ram stuff for you that hurt? And so it is curious for me. And it's also curious for me because they've got to be Rams fans that have no affiliation to either city. Right. There's gotta be Rams fans that are just living in Florida. And you just for whatever reason maybe your dad was van your mom van you grew up Rams fan. Right. Like, I don't know where those fans fall in this either. So it gets really touchy for van base when your city when your city loses the team. Yeah. It's benefit Sarah Spain and Jason Fitz on ESPN radio. You know, it's also I have a friend that was a friend of mine that I met when I lived out an LA, and he was a Rams fan. And I said, I mean, you're twenty something at the time, you know, they were never around for my grandpa was a Rams fan when they were the LA Rams. And I grew up rooting for them some stick with them. So I'm happy for him. Because he he he followed it all the way round full circle. Right. He was willing to root for them when they weren't right in front of him. And now they are. And so it's a little more fun that they're experiencing this success. So it's a little more complicated because of the circular nature of their journey, but we're gonna get into a later in the show, whether you wanna stick with your team, even when it's no longer in your city, but I put up the poll for Saint Louis fans. Did you stick with the Rams when they left or did you denounce your phantom? It's very early only a couple of votes, but sixty two. Percent said Rams are dead to me thirty eight percents that still my team. So we'll give you an update on that. When we get a little further into the voting, and we'll talk about it. You know, if your NFL team left, you would just stick with them wherever they went. And does it matter whether you're getting another team in their place? We'll put a couple of polls up on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed. You can give us your answers coming up. Marianna rivera. The first unanimously voted whole of Famer Willie be the only one or is this going to start a change for good. We'll talk Tim Kirch in next on Spain. Infants.

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198: Video Games (w/ Kevin Pereira)

High and Mighty

1:09:38 hr | 1 year ago

198: Video Games (w/ Kevin Pereira)

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And you get paid. I might put some shit heads. Welcome back to another episode high and mighty ditch me you'll boy for point number one. Fuck. Number one fuck boil you gotta do is trust, man. Johnny. Fuck. Joining me as as mighty studios this my nearly silent. Arthur Gabor's aren't they're giving shout. There. It is also joining me in the highway studios. First time guest time, I was gonna say longtime knowing each other. But more specifically longtime me knowing you and then short time us knowing each other, which is exciting guys. I got Kevin Pereira. Time is relative. It's all good to tell good at circle. Do my favorite miracles would be I guess of birth and whip and till this moment right here because that intro is a fucking miracle. I've heard it, you know, I'm a fan. I listen all the time. And even hear you describe it to people. Oh, yeah. You didn't know it was going to be frothy. I was gonna be whipping around that was that was magnetic. It's pretty high energy for eleven AM on a week day sort of still in my pajamas, stared daggers into the lighting fixture on the ceiling while it was going on. I think my eyes rolled back by doing tongues. A bloody pentagram chicken. Well done you open a portal. Well, whoops, here we go evil incarnate arrived on West Hollywood. Oh, please thanks for coming in. So we I think when we first met each other. You message me like you did a video episode of video games. I was passed. How dare you? You you have to come. And then, of course, four months later, we're doing happy to man. That's they've been as you were saying right before we hit record. You can sort of check point periods of your life by which cartridge you were blowing into or what pair of political sharp boobs were controlling on a monitor at any given point. And I'm the exact same way. Exactly. Like, I know planning my wedding with my wife was also the time of skyrocket. And they're sort of more concerned with. Neck of what I was dealing with like, look you figure out the plates and forks situation. I gotta make some gloves. Exactly around the time. I got sky rim. I also got my first vaporizer and it worked out perfect timing for that. I then smoke weed in my apartment without stinking it up. We're you sky rim on PC on console was on XBox. And you only bought it the one time I bought I bought the I got as a gift the four K Xbox One upgrade as you go through it again. No. I didn't. Okay. Sitting on it. I'm currently going through shadow of war on shadow of the Lord of the rings game. Yeah. I enjoyed the first one a lot. The second one is way too similar, but I'm still having a blast bought skyer him three times. And I think I've made it to white run. I made it there. That's not that far. That is precisely probably that fucking game is like it's the whole the whole point to me. It was sold to my friends like you played. However, you want man you wanna be thief. You want to be the bar Burien? You wanna be the every buddy? Yeah. Great. Okay. I'm in I go to somebody's house. Just walk right in. Nobody's home. I go downstairs around three corners, go to a bookshelf. Look at an apple pressed the wrong button. I take it. Suddenly the entire country knows that I'm the-the. Right. And there's a bounty out of town. It's I I accidentally took an just was just checking it out to see how much Wade I'm the known universe. And it just it made me feel like oh, I wanna play this game. And I wanna play it in this way. But I don't know the limitations of the engine, and I don't want to upset the world. I don't want my character. The funny you say that my issue with skyer him, and now all RPG's, and might be my undoing is I have this weird, and it's partial OCD, and it's partially metaphorical for my entire life in that when choosing a class. I'm always like, oh, I want to do an Archer. That's a fun idea. I'll just be like a rogue Archer, and I do like twenty levels, and I'm like, okay. My going to do sixty levels as like a rogue Archer because like maybe I kind of want to use a sword and shield like a high defense that would be a fun then I did bushes in waiting for an NPC to do its walk routine back towards me. So I can hit with an era just to get in and bash the shit out of them. And then you're like, oh, cool. Yes. And let me do that. And then you play that to twenty levels. You'll like it would be fun to kind of do magic. And I'm like, all right. Let me make imagine. And the next thing. I know I have eight level twenty characters that are all like as far as white run. And no further and no endgame because I can't I can't commit. It's like there's something like so skyro-, really parallels. Life in many many ways. In maps directly to my career in which I'm like, maybe it's podcasting. Maybe it's live comedy. Maybe it's movies. Maybe it's TV. Maybe it's this. I'm trying everything. And I'm like not putting enough effort in any to really commit to getting a level sixty warrior and with elite weaponry. Instead, I'm just like I've got ten medium like, it's the jack-of-all-trades thing. Like, ten medium lease SS thing. I'm still waiting for the four K remake of attack of the show because I'm like man, I got nothing else. That was my one trick. I can't wait for someone to remastered that shit. That's a comeback and bowed. What a what a that's your twilight zone episode is that attack of the show comes back, but you're ten years older, and it's four K. No, I look clean. I look even crisper technology advanced, and it's my undoing. Nobody wants to watch this people were tuning in for my aesthetic. So I think I've, okay. If I remember correctly. It was always a two hander. Headed highs right hand one just needed one. Maybe my feet go walking, Terry. Yeah. I really really really absolutely love sky run. But I had that issue that I couldn't play the world. I want the issue that you're describing about not wanting to commit to character. That was me Diablo Diablo is one of my favorite games of all time. Same and I would get in there. And and even though I did eventually get to the end of most with a certain character that exact same that. I don't wanna say foam, but I'm going to. Raising the dead, and that's cool, but shit shouldn't. I be in there. She'll be mixing it up and bashing shit with shields and swords go in 'cause you kind of get tired of one style of play. Even when you get really good. You're like now I've on locked where I'm just like I can kind of wipe out a group of monsters. No problem, and I'm like am. I having fun anymore. No. You're not. I played the with a couple of buddies from home. We actually were playing up until like a year and a half ago. We were started playbook three. Yeah. We start playing again, and my friend shout them out on the pod. He'll hate this JP JP breaks those games for us in that. He like is like, oh, these act way, I taped thirteen prema- strategy guides together and found out every speck this spell with this armor with this gem with this socketed trinket exact can walk out of the town in the whole world. Fuck and explodes that fun. No exact he's like dude damage up to this number. I'm like, well, then on just heading along on these group dungeon attacks because you're just like decimating everyone getting sloppy loot. Second exact comes out says 'but fucking destroy. And then he explodes until loot. Great. I guess we continue on right? I know I've never been the guy. Who's like, okay. I'm gonna keep fighting until I get the helmet that I need because the helmet that I need will like punch up. This one skill and that'll be the final. And I'm like, oh my God. I can't think like that he like hacks the game until he breaks it for even us playing with them. We're like how I'm not having fun. Having you on my team. How are you having? And then I realize that's two different ways to play the game. I'm like, I wanna get stoned and wander around and blow every shiny thing. And if it might be marginally better than the weapon, I have I'm going to swap it out. One forty four armor versus one forty two fiance moves a poof to the front of the room and squats close as she can't. 'cause she refuses to get sick or where glasses so she sits nose to the TV and will read every stat and read every line and look back at me and go, okay. This is plus to deduct steroids, but I lose point. Oh, three percent of my mono- regeneration. I'm regretting committing to her every second. She said there's fucking switched the armor out your level. Just he's gonna try. He's gonna try to buy a couch together. Character. NBC? The Oslo was a huge game or good to be fair. I think the blizzard games, and and I know they are like act like like, huge popular games. But to me, they were like the games for starcraft warcraft and Diablo where like I was just like, and they were doing the thing. Whereas like one would come out every year and a half or whatever, and you can just keep jumping like I haven't played anything besides blizzard game for like a chunk on twenty one hundred percent when they you know, did you play. Wow. When it came out I played world of warcraft. Religiously from it. I was a huge everquest guy. Seattle friends guilty. Never. I never did. It never. I never did it because I was like a frayed because it came out like when I was in high school and college, and I was like I don't need to fuck with that. But then world of warcraft came out. And I was like I like the idea that everquest was massive multi m o g. But I just never got into it. But now, I'm not sure heroin. Yeah. But when when it's like meth, no, thank you meth. That's branded with blizzard characters. Yeah. It was the IP was heaven. I love because I love worker that's for me. That's like kind of on epic fantasy. And that's kind of why I like the Lord of the rings, the shadow of more Dohrn shadow of war games. But that's just that's Arkham asylum with swords, bows and arrows. But you'll too. Yeah. Exactly Arkansas like those like, it's half puzzle game half smashed the X button. This is this new combo. What do you do press x one extra time? All right. I'm gonna finish up with this why? But. But it wurley locked this game. You know, it's easy to go. Its mashing these combos in watching your care to trick. But back in the days of like a double dragon. You had only two buttons, right, right? That was it. So your combos were just as pedantic either the fight a giant ball guy with the mustache or a chick with a whip. And you had no weapons. Oh, wait. It's giant ball guy with the mustache. But now he's slightly purple. Even tougher is he blinking red. Yet. I love that was a universal communication. He's fading and dying all their blinking red. They're real, man. I love double Jag up on my favorite side scrolling fighting game from any s was river city. Ransom. Oh my God. Classic a little bit of the RPG element of like you can get some money. I'm gonna buy some stuff. Sean straggle hands. You can upgrade your like you can get better with weapons and stuff like that. And like eat sushi to get like, willpower or whatever. And I was like that game like unlocked a little something in me when I was like, I don't know what the RPG element is. Like, what is it? That makes us is it the sort of like self-improvement thing of like, it's it's super it's it's got a little bit of that superhero vibe to it where it's like you're getting better. Even though you're like a fat idiot stone sitting on your couch like your avatars getting better. And you're like. I'm working hard at a pace that would be impossible to do in the real world. Like one of his grant was at San Andreas, the grand theft auto all my character can't swim or he gets fatigued very quickly. And he doesn't have a lot of strength. Let me go to the gym in the video game. Mash X a thousand times do four hundred reps and suddenly fucking. I'm Jack, meanwhile, real you'd have Rabdah my alyssa's be like shitting blood. If you just went and did four hundred bench presses arms would fall off the only person who knows I'm improving myself to this level is post the post mates guys. Just like you. Oh, okay. All right, man. They want to take some of these old cartons technically my job. But I wanna help you to call the Discovery Channel and gets them like reality show in here to clean up rooted. We could get we could get a crane. I think it's that self-improvement thing for sure and thinking back to you like your buddy who plays Diablo and wants to break the game. That's the level of that. Hey, fucking orc. You gave me a challenge a year ago? Now, I walk into a room in your entire lineage. Dies race your entire family. It's genocide that's that's kind of self-improvement nagging at it. But I was a master system. Kid, man. I'm jealous that you had river city. Ransom. Sega we were in. We were in intendo. That means we fight with switchblade comes. Now. It was to me Sega was like for the cooler kids and intend like in my head. That's what it was growing. Okay. I'll take Sega. I mean, I read the Blake harasses console wars. Sega was like advertised marketed as and it worked on me Genesis era. Genesis worked they worked out where you were like that's for the cool kids skateboarding video game. Yeah. Yeah. You you watch scrambled porn after midnight. And your parents probably don't give a fuck Sega. Genesis right. I it was not that way in the eight bit era. The master system was the far inferior console to the terms of library. Oh, hell, yeah. I remember my buddy had Sega master system. And the only game that I liked on it was altered beast and was that even maybe Genesis. I was probably Genesis. They did end up releasing altarpiece for the master system. But I think it came out. I could be crazy. I think it came out. Genesis I and then they were like there was a handful of games that came out later for the master system because master's was still selling in Brazil, and and predates predates Genesis, right? You got the Genesis? And then you could CD upgrades added on by the thirty two x upgrade. Aid. And at that point. You're building a LEGO transformer that can play nothing fun. Yeah. Can good. We got my friend got Sega CD for Christmas. I like rode my bike over and we're like, we got Sega CD games games on discs. We put in sewer shark, and it was just like a six sixty second cut scene where you died at the end over and over again, what is funding? What is funding? Fifty dollars. Sure did a thumbnail sized grainy video of a guy like calling you dog meat or whatever. Okay. Well, what's the game? You're basically flying through a colonoscopy and shooting at digital bats. And that's it. And it makes no sense. And it's like it's sort of like when dragons layer came out in the are Cade. And everyone was like, dude, it's like real video. And you put the game is awful the play. Now, did you were you huge in the arcades? Yes. Like, kind of the arcade was my grandfather growing up like loved casinos, but he would take us to Nathan's on the boardwalk on Long Island where there was a huge, arcade. And he'd be like we used to like, my grandfather was very generous. And my parents worked weekends and shit like that. So he was always just taking us around and stuff. And he's like, let's go to the boardwalk and be like, all right? And he'd give us like five dollars in quarters each which is like an on zeal amount of money. You can beat X men and teenage mutant ninja turtles my brother. My brother would be on the drive to the boardwalk. I'm like ten he's eight. I'm like, okay. I'm colossus wolverine. We and we're like pop up how much money are we gonna get? He's like I'll give you guys each five dollars. We're like, okay, we can spend two dollars and twenty five cents on. We'd be like did you put in eight lives? Ready? Don't put a anymore. Like, I mean, my brother would just like try to beat these games together and arcades are like. Nearly unbeatable yet by design it's crazy. We have a main cabinet now at the office, and you could go into the rom switches of the arcade, and you can see all the vendor settings. Right. And you can just on a game like mortal Kombat, you can make the obviously change the difficulty of the I you can make punches do way more damage or whatever else and just it's all these options designed to screw kids out of their quarters. Here's the average time of your life. Here's the other. And so that's why like at some arcades you can crush machine, and then others you put in your twenty five cents, and it's like died oh inch against all. These little switch settings. It used to be little hardware settings on the Arcadia to open. It up flip the switches. You can change the price of the machine the difficulty and to suck your quarters. That was it. I was we are the arcade was the other option like my dad worked evenings. And in the summer. We'd go to the beach every day. But if it rained we would go to the mall and hit the arcade in a movie theater. And that was we were a little older at that point. I'd be like twelve yard gain. And that's when the dungeons and dragons game was out on arcane. I fall falling love that was at the side, schooler classes like cycle through magic and stuff in hindsight. It was like it was just giving me enough of the RPG like it gave me like the gauntlet level of fantasy that I was desiring an video game. And I enjoyed it so much and then like eventually I was able to jump to like the better RPG's started coming out on the home systems. And then eventually as mentioned with blizzard stuff, I got into PC gaming, and that's like when in college. My friends were all playing fucking Madden and NCWA football. And I was in my room playing Diablo or mainline. Yes. Webbing between the toes. Oh, here's here's a good example, also talking about ten polling your life with video games freshman year of college. Someone comes in the room comes in my room. And I'm like I hear something play. I'm like someone's blasting something on their computer. Speakers are you playing age of empires? And he's I guess we're playing age empires to I've never played too. He's like you gotta buy two. And I'm like, oh, I will have. Is a fun. We're all playing against each other on the floor. And this is my first college I went to college in ninety nine two thousand and I was like, what do you mean? And then I well, we have this huge sharing a keyboard or sitting on your shoulders, and it's a weird situation because the previous game that I used to play all the time in high school in like early high school was heroes of might magic and turn based strategy game. And we would play on one computer where it'd be like, I would leave the room and go all right, Mike, you're he'd go in fuck around on the computer come out and be like, all right, Brian your turn. And we would rotate through all of us. And it was insane. That that's how we were playing a game. And that's like saying that's like hoop and stick to kids now. Sure. Yeah. I I grew up on bulletin board systems. Modems and stuff and used to connect to someone's computer, and they were play by mail games. But occasionally you get a bulletin board with whoever was running it had to three modems in their computer that meets two or three phone lines. Someone was spending a lot of money on a charity operation of running a bulletin board. And you could dial in and you could play against someone else in real fucking time. So it was insane. I remember a game pit fighter moving a little Ascii character around a grid and trying to attack and then they had like RPG elements. You could buy weapons and stuff. But it's like, I'm using my phone line to dial into somebody's computer probably running in their grudge somewhere else. Someone else has dialed in no one else can get now they're going to get busy signals, and it's such a privilege slice time. And I'm so grateful that I got to do multi player gaming and a young age. It was so primitive. But it was so informative as well. It'd be like, oh, yeah. This is going to be everything. And it's awesome. Because like when you're a kid, you're like, oh, the dude or woman the person who is setting up to three phone line. Bob, product, BB, or whatever, you're like that person's awesome, and then Winstons operator. And then when you get when you get to be like around that person's age like it was running three modems out of my house, and my family was like what are you doing? I like that guy or gal Mozambique guy was a weirdo. Yeah. He's not around anymore. It's not because he died. He's definitely behind bar thirty and giving twelve year olds opportunities video games. And you're like, oh, that's so cool. And then when you get to be thirty or like, I'm not helping twelve year olds play video games you want a better ratio to download more files. Come meet me at the pizzeria. I'm out good. So that was your first land party was age of empires to age of empires too at college. And I was like because it was the first time we had we had never brought are. And then we later on the group of friends, I have from home those guys GP and Sanford, we started doing some local area like carrying our shit around. 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That's F R H I M S dot com slash M. I G H T Y for him dot com slash mighty. I. Each Pires on land. I was like, oh, this is the future video games. Because I I'm having high speed internet for the first time, and I'm also playing against a group, and we're screaming from dorm room to dorm room. And also my my floor in college didn't seem like video game dudes. But then you find that like even the most Brody of guys they love Madden or they love. And you're like all of a sudden, you're like, oh, I can video games as sort of like a weird equalizer hundred percents, even like the most macho doodoo loves Madden if a fucking like do we with like one tooth comes in and his very good Madden picture them being like, hey, good work. Ronnie, you know, it's like it really can earn the respect. Exactly. And I found playing age it was so so much fun playing like two onto age of empires and shit like that it was just so wild is is that is that real time strategy. Yeah. That's sort of warcraft. Okay. But it's like each you can be the Mayans the the Chinese. The British and for some reason throughout no matter what the time period is they're fighting. Sure. Get the new this time the logic. The logic of how like the Celts are able to get good tanks. Like don't need it. Was a lot of fun. I remember back in the doom shareware was my first real transcendent PC experience. I mean, there was a game called wolfenstein before that. Yes. And it was great shoot all the Nazis, and maybe stab German shepherd game. Yeah. We yeah. I remember in went like wolfenstein, two doom and like rise of the triad. We're like big like I. It was awesome. An buddy of mine had three computers in his house because his dad was like worked in computers. So we had three and we were like, oh, we can do a local area network. But it would always be the short store of who had to be in the dad's room, and we're like to my friend Jimmy whose house was Jimmy. You gotta be in your dad's room. And he's like, I hate that computer. I want to be in the one in my room. And I'm like, well, I don't wanna be in your dad's room playing on his computer when sell select which would be in the room on his cigar in robe. Lineup fucking yacht and taken. Screen opens up a little boy playing. I would the triad. Was so great man that they had the dog mode where you'd see the nose of the dog baseball bat, the weapons were cool. It was so fun. And it was like you could blast duty would fall to his knees. And then Baig. Finish my wife my kit. Fuck you. I'm going to kill you, midway file. Doom was huge win was transformative for me. My brother went to this like this expo and someone like gave him a doom shareware disk, one dot six six six or whatever it was. And we couldn't figure out how to get it going. I like the barrier to entry to gaming back in the day on a PC fucking tough. You would have like four floppy disks. Within half the time. Your computer was like at least at our house like was kind of not that great of a machine to orange sixty four batch files and figure out confict cysts and trying to like reallocate memory. So that I can play the seventh guest. I mean, I'm privileged to have a computer that can play. But like you had to jump through hoops hurdles to going. So once we finally cracked the code just to get the game to run when that scream came to life. And I heard that music and melted down and got the first shotgun blasted space. Marines of just it was done. And that game you could go modem to modem. And so you dial into someone's house. So I was like on bulletin boards. Posting like, hey, then you've been played doom tonight. Here's my phone number. My modem's going to be listening beyond at nine or whatever. And then randomly. From the other room. I'd get up and run. So and so is joined someone's dialing in. And it was me at like probably ten eleven years old maybe younger maybe older playing with like forty year olds who just got done putting their kids down. Right. Just finish their dinner. And we're killing each other like mad speaking of it being an equaliser. It was the greatest thing for me because it allowed me to associate with adults share this love of games on bulletin boards. Swap messages about life or how to shave Taya tie. Like, I was raised by a lot of anonymous do. -cational anonymous woman on bulletin boards. And interesting chart. Chart. I did find that. It was really cool when you got into the more serious games that older people were into them. And now, I am the older person that's into the more serious games. But like meeting those dudes because like even when I played magic the gathering, and I was like oh this game is for like nerdy high school kids, and I'm like, oh, no nerdy. Adults do it too. And then when you meet an adult, and you're like, I recognized that this person is socially awkward, but what I also recognize is when I'm that age. I hope I'm like it was how knowledgeable they were. Yeah. And you're like, I hope I grew up to be like the guy that works at collectors comics on sunrise highway and hindsight like if I heard my kids say that I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no. Let's take a look at this, dude. But milky eyed guy with a staff and an orb who is to answer to his real name. You have to call me in gain. Yeah. Actually, actually fucking figured it out by games and things he loves all the time. Also, it's oddly validating because I come from like a sports, you know, collar lower middle class. Family where they're like like John cushions, Johnny. What do you do it in the basement all day? You know, you gotta get outside get some fresh air. And I'm like, you know, understand gotta beat kaffa. And it was like to meet adult who were like. Yeah. We game every Saturday all day or like, we play DND those big for me. And it was like I just saying right now made me realize I wonder what kicked off my love of RPG's. I was at video games. Because I really I think I was playing final fantasy before I was playing dean D, I feel I was at least waiting fancy ones loving, swords and armor and magic and the funnel fancy to. And I think DND would be around the same time like sixth grade because it was in my news. My new house, if did you realize at the time when you're playing final fantasy, did you know, you're playing an RPG that this was a role playing or you just playing a game. I was just playing a gay. I never knew it was an RPG. I just was like, and then I'm remember being like, I like games like that. Where the the craziest thing and final fantasy to is the one with like, no fancy one, you get like Bahamas tail and your character goes from a red made to a red wizard and your character goes from a fighter to a night. And they get better and cooler armor, and I'm like, oh, man. And then fuck in final fantasy to comes out. And it's like sessile all these more characters each with different skills. And I think I talked about this on a comic book episode of mine. But I realized that a lot of this stuff I really like in media, and and playing comic books DND sports, all these things what they live in common is like teams where everyone has a different specialty. I mean, I'm obsessed with navy seals green berets, and it's all the same hierarchy. And there's a there's a specialty. What happens actually good with explosives get up? You know, like, yeah. That kinda ship. I don't know why that locks into something in my brain must be there's some. I'm sure there's a psychological explanation as to why it works on a lot of people. But for me, it was like, I'm always like all that. So oh, I gotta have right. So she can summon and also we gotta have Rosa here to heal. And you're like I love building those little world. So let me be best friend the dealer for a second. And give you your new obsession if you like specified roles, there's a Keillor tank their Archer made there's all those traditional roles. Have you played a Moba like a league of legends? I've played I dabbled with them and the rest in peace heroes, by the way, if you didn't hear it's it's done blizzard, his sunsetting it. They are letting it go no more if you invested in east sports team, or if you have a bunch of money invested in heroes skins goodbye. No. That's not getting traction. And that kind of John row of game is fading also little bit to the point where I'm sure some legal legends fan or some Doda fan is going to send you an Email. You can ignore it. It's kind of dying. But the what I really love about Mobile's has been distilled and refine delivered a new mobile game. That's free to play which means eventually it'll be paid a win and terrible. But right now, it just came out like two days ago. It's called brawl stars pro Allstars fucking amazed. I see your streaming that or something on Twitter or you were just maybe playing we have a clan and everybody's joining in. So basically, you choose your player and all the players have different specialties. The sniper the explosives guy, the magic do the big tanks that go in with shotguns and not people around. And it's the main mode is three on three you all kind of meet in the middle. And you just beat the shit out of each other. And it's mobile, so it's like the matches are like two and a half three minutes. You're in you're out. You can play another one. If you want to just get a day off the toilet. Exactly. Although I will play till my thighs. I have two red dots. Arnot. Red holes on my thighs. And so what's great about? It is that it's like it's your heroes of the storm and your legal legends. But it's the best parts which are like the big team fights where you get in. And you're all fighting trying to play a role in kill each other. So there's no more bullshit about kill these little creepers in this lane. And then nineteen minutes and you'll find out if you're going to lose her not to play for another twenty minutes, the crushing defeat. No, no, you're in. You're out two and a half three minutes. Invite your friends beat the shit out of each other hashtag, not an ad not sponsored by them just super into it. Right. If you're looking for sponsors brawl stars long pass the game being good squeezed every micro transaction wants to play it anymore. L still take a couple of bucks to talk about getting brawl stars in old English across my belly. There is a price on it. And it's not that expensive. Renting got a crossover golden palace, squarespace code doesn't work anymore. Let me show you. You're like memento of podcast tattoos. Got the Indy Racing journey and him there. Why did I commit so hard? I fucking loved. Here's the storm. I try playing legal legends. And there was like, I don't I don't love the games where everyone's already I'm not good at first person shooters. And I'm not good at Mobis. So when I join up like if I don't get in. I tried to play Star Wars battlefront them. I love Star Wars so fun. But you miss that that skill curve yet. Good. And I'm like, I'm not having fun because everyone is too good. I'm like so bad. And that's why I like first person shooter campaigns. I'm the doodoo buys new call of duty plays the entire campaign, maybe fucks around on like the zombies or one of the survival levels and then fucking cells at the game stop eventually for a dollar. You know what I mean? I lose fifty nine dollars every year on call duty game. It's one of the reasons I look forward to Christmas the most now it's not because I'm going to get anything fantastic. Or because I guess it's Jesus's birthday. It's because a whole bunch of nine year olds are going to be unwrapping, call of duty. And so for a week I can be God again. By New Year's they will destroy me. Bill also better like bad manners. They'll be better in the lobby. They're probably a little more racist and sexist too. So. Crush me on that, no doubt. But for like one week all of them because I know the fuck and maps because I'm an adult who bought it early in the land of the blind. The man with one. The games the man without a fulltime job is demanded. Amanda doesn't have to ask Santa get a leg up. You know? So it's really funny even I'm third going to be thirty seven and my mom's like do you want for Christmas? My just give me money. I fly I want you to open something like five I'll wait for red dead redemption to gimme red dead, redemption. Do I'm going to buy it eventually anyway, there, you can let me open a gift, and my mom writes LOL, how old are you in tasks, and I write back. They fuck you give me money. She's really not getting you read. Now, I think she is going that. This family secret Santa that I want read because there's no better like being as a kid. What's under the tree? Anything video game related for me. Was that was it that was opening up a game? My parents eventually start putting fucking like PlayStation games inside like Pacific where boxes with like, wrapping paper. And I'd be like fucking shirt and open it up, and it'd be like, it's twisted mood. Fuck. Yeah. Metal. When that came out when we got that game we played that game. So so I was very very good at Swiss to guy, I I could do shadow so well foreshadow the Hearst that can send the special. Ghosts? That would you can hit again, approximity, minor remind the block, so awesome. Holy shit. Yeah. I remember the I didn't have a PlayStation because I was full PC. I was I was PC master race like hundred percent. They're just didn't have consuls that generation. But I remember playing it was the guy that was in between two axle, that's arms. Yeah. Yeah. It's so cool. Good David Jaffe, the guy who created twisted metal went on to make the original God of war made a couple of other games as well calling all cars, which was like if you like NBA jam put NBA jam into cars and race them around on a map. That's calling cars. I really like him as a developer. But now he's does like nightly twitch streams where if you you should by the way have him on if you reach out to him. He he's he puts his phone number on the screen people. Call them and his knowledge and passion and simultaneous hatred of the video game industry is delightful. He's a really fast, and that's awesome. Check listening to him pick apart games like on a on a very surgical level is is a delight. So are you still a piece ju just PC gaming or now I've got into the the best part about being in your late thirties? Purchasing all the fans you've ever want. Disposable income. Great. Not disposable income. It's probably for saving for a future should pay down the mortgage. I absolutely have better things more important things to spend it on one hundred percent. I always say like if fourteen year old me could see thirty five going to be thirty six year old me now he'd be fucking pissed. He'd be like you son of a bitch. You have all those games on a game pass. You have all the four K TV. You gotta right there. What the fuck you doing with your life? Go play. I'm trying to afford more things. So I don't have time to play this. So come to because if you told nineteen year old Gabor's eventually you'll have four different amazing bourbons that are like seventy five dollars a bottle on a shelf. Instead of just the maker's Mark you're hiding in your dorm or your roommates don't drink it. Now, you have and then you're like, you're not party and all the time. It's like I can. Gotta go work to afford these bottles stare at their drink them in regret. Yeah. I got into this video Weedon video games to just having moved to California and getting money. You're like I couldn't imagine being twenty being like someday, you'll can order you can order delivery weed and then go on your console and by game without leaving the house. That is dangerous by the way, I've bought two games that I've played for eight minutes, which ones injustice to and something else. I forget what the other one. That's how bad it was for me. Three. Oh, which is another one that I bought on like two different consoles and PC because at some point someone's like, you gotta get it. It's on sale whatever I get to the first the bar where you have your your first major encounter. And like, there's just it's not grabbing me for whatever reason for me. It was just like it was like ten percent more complicated than I wanted it to be. Yeah. And I'm like, oh like I get the game has details. And I'll learn over the course of eight hours. But like I want a little bit of like getting the saddle and I'm playing that was still haven't touched red dead. Because all my friends are like to once you get past the first ten hours the game really opens up. If you told me that about Netflix series or anything else be like fuck you. I'm not investing ten hours for something to get good as an avid reader of fantasy novels. That's often what people say it's like, I'm like, I'm reading the wheel of time. It's boring. And they're like, oh, you got to get the book seven. I'm like that's fifty six hundred pages. Go on at that point. You're you're you're a victim. You have to like. Yeah. You're. Exactly, you're like. Better smile. If I say if I don't like it if I tell myself, I don't like it. What the fuck of I've been doing this whole time. Yeah. Have you fucked with VR much? No just like a little bit. I played like a fruit and Injin VR. And it was it was a lot of fun. Oh, good. Good. That's great the tetris effect just came out. And it's we'll seen a lot of people tweeting about this. And I don't even know the contents. It's tetris, but it's made by this guy. Gucci Japanese developer he made res- every extend extra. He his whole thing is he loves psychedelics. He loves we'd he loves music, and he likes video games interact with parents, he made the res- in Japan had a vibrator attachment that you could plug in USB, and as you do better to this because it's all about playing the music and playing the track and the better, you do the more pulses and thumps and his whole thing is like as you're playing girlfriend should be enjoying the experience as well. And so the guys guys Honey I'm going to in the store and put this in your vagina. No trust me every time. I gain a level. You're going to get get out of here. Every time. I do get killed. There's going to be a slight pinching tingling sensation that will not be pitched screech. But like, so he's he's obviously, he's an interesting guy. Interesting developer, and he wanted to make tetris, and they wouldn't let him like a few years ago. So we made another game called luminaires which is blocked dropping game. But it's all about music and blocks. He finally got a hold of tetris made this for the PlayStation four and it's envy are if you if you have it, and I went out and got a PS VR just for this game because you're sitting in there, and it's fucking it's tetris. Right. You remember tetris drop the bloc's rotating? Of course, it's it's test time people will still play it. It's fucking tetris. But every time you flip or rotate a block every time. You move a block whenever you lower it down. There's a sample. There's a musical sound some sort of noise associated with that action as you clear lines. The song starts to build of whatever level you're playing whatever skin you're playing. So I'm playing in VR, I'm dropping block. And I hear like a little a little EDM lady little echo. That's cute. Suddenly, I gotta tetris and there's a giant fucking wail swimming over me. And I realize oh this this world. I'm playing it is underwater and others like a jellyfish swimming by and there's iridescent glow and bubbles coming up and blocks or flying out at you. That's level. One lines. Move onto the next one. And it's like a squad. See weird like, a chant and fire and flames going everywhere another level. You're soaring through clouds, and it's just it's just bucking tetris. I've been at your in it I've been XBox loyal for a while now. But I think I wanna get like I wanna get a job make some money and no one time off. And then when I know that time office coming I'm gonna purchase a PlayStation because there's so many PS only titles that I really wanna pay really crushed at this generation. They're exclusives. Yeah. Like, I wanna play the Spiderman game, everyone seems to be talking about awesome. That is I wanna play on charted uncharted uncharted appeals to me. But not as much as last of us is that the name of becoming less of us to God of war. So good. And then there was one other recent PlayStation, only that people were going ape shit about. And I was like this is the reason to get places. It might have been the most recent they killed it with with the exclusive. They absolutely did. Microsoft knows it. They know that this turned into a rebuilding year for them. They're buying studios. Aaa titles take four years to make like, you know, what fuck it don't rush it out for this generation focus on the next one. But the real surprise the fastest selling consul. It's a switch, of course, you. No. But that's worth it. I just went. I just went on tour with the Doboy and Nick Weicker had a switch and he was playing super smash on the plane, and I'm like sitting on the plane looking at like Netflix on my phone, and I'm like, I need a Swiss do you want to swap? And you borrow my walkman on mini disc player for two minutes. Can I play those get? Yeah. Yeah. You know, the switches good tech when it makes your iphone, which is a fucking black mirror as device when when it makes your iphone look like a fucking lump of clay, what am I doing this notepad like even just having those having a joystick on a portable device is just a game changer. They it's really wish apple would get behind. Here is the official joy con like controllers. That we're going to bolt onto the iphone. So that and make it official that way every developer supports it. Because I carry those with me everywhere. Yes. No reason the iphone isn't a switch. It is better screen graphics. Good sound, right. It just needs dedicated controls. Right. All needs is something you can plug into year. And you're just like do companies make them they make little like bluetooth cases. Turns it into this. But until apple or Google officially say, okay? This is the controller like so they can assume that everybody's going to get one, you know, install base. It's never going to be. There wonder how it is with mobile games because they're aiming someone's younger. It's like, they're not the joystick generation. They're not the controller generation, they're either mouse and keyboard or touch touchscreen. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the amount of I mean, I I want to get into this old conversation. But like the fact that like kids say like, I wanna watch TV. But what they mean is like I want to click on something on Netflix, Hulu and watch it. Right. That's like, no. That's not watching TV Houston to not be what you wanted it to be you had to be like, why hope something I'd like is on right? I seen in back to the future to when they're when he's ordering a Pepsi at the plays the old gun game. Yeah. Kids are watching your hands. Yeah. Yeah. You do. We're heading towards that. Well, I'm all for wet wear like the drill. Whatever you have to into my fucking head sign. I want to sign. Yeah. Give me four gigs of ram, and then I'll talk to a hacking dolphin. That was something that happened in the movie. Yes, do we remember that shit? There was a dolphin and a tank and key honorees has an extended conversation with the dolphin. If I remember you do and cube is he's one of the leaders of the resistance. It's one of the ICES might be lifted. It's not familiar. Definitely nothing James Lipton. But it's either or ice Q. And then there's a guy that has a pinky that he can pull the nail off. And there's an electric wire and up with. What the fuck happened there? Rewatch that good. Demolition, man. I fucking absolutely love. Demolition think. There was a demolition man game for the three D O. Do you? Remember, the three DO? Oh, hell, yeah. That console was like crazy Oltra superpower disc based games, like beautiful graphics and sound like, and it's one million dollars. Like, wait a minute. Hold on. I've really distinct memory of there was a summer in between moving that we had to live in my Grandpa's house for an entire summer, my whole family, and that was very stressful for my grandpa, my parents and the kid I bet so one of the things we went to video games and more on Merrick road used to be a place where you could rent video games. But they also rented consoles, and we rented Neo geo. I was holding out hope that this is going to be a Neo geo. She said three got in the geo story so big with this huge chunky cartridges had a couple different version. There was I get it had like VHS games. Yeah. And Neo geo to us was only at the pizzaria. It was only like oh, you can get metal slug to win jammers. Ky-ko fighters the big monster game. Yes. Then there was the wind jammers which was like the frisbee. And we got Neo geo. And it was the coolest fucking thing. Dude. I we were losing our fucking minds on it. It's so much fun. It's like eight megs or sixteen Maga's. Yeah. Cartridge like what this is. And it's basically the board. Right. You were jamming into a home console felt insane. It was like we're in my Grandpa's basement, which is a place. We never were growing up. Now, we have Neo geo down there. It's like the dead of summer, and we're fucking pale with like rings under our is because our parents feel so guilty like making us live randomly with pop up. So they're like, you can still be all the ice cream you go. Oh, we got like a fucking ice cream an allowance, and we got Neo geo in the base was did it did have the joystick controllers with the gray buttons four five grade. I remember when we I have like flashes memories. I remember bringing it out of video games and more and it being like three of us were carrying different parts. Like, my dad, my brother and me has the power brick over their shoulder marching back. Oh, so funny. I just upgraded from Xbox One Xbox One x, and I was you know, as any home entertainment system is a mess of wires and dust by my fucking console. I start moving around, and I'm like replace the wires, put my Xbox One x in there, and the Xbox One has like a fucking power brick this the size and weight of like a fucking legit like lead brick, and I'm like, this is crazy. This is like modern tech. And I still have this the new Xbox One. X is just got like a classic little outlet. And I'm like power brick is internal on it. Yeah. Let's so good. But beautiful console doesn't suit. Doesn't suit very heavy super small dig it. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever it can be used for like just a general beanie got like it is power brick for that reason you can knock over by the end of its AC AC smash a window in. Hell. Yeah. Oh, have you tried any of the NVIDIA streaming stuff? Have you heard about that? So like PlayStation now has their version XBox has their game pass. It's not quite streaming yet, you still download a lot of the content locally, but they're going to get there. I think their game passes fucking brilliant XBox crushing it without. But so we we talked to me about game pass because I don't fully know passes like you, can you can pay monthly or yearly and you get access to a huge library games. And you get every first party Microsoft, title that comes out day one included with the price of that. So basically like if you're going to buy four or if you're going to buy what's the other big first party title? That's coming out. I'm blanking on it. But like all the halo games thieves came out day in day like all those big games. Because. You get them right away. They have some other games that are just like under the package if D or sixty other titles. Download it and play it, and delete it. And then download another one in play like the pa-. And what is it like twelve dollars a month a couple of bucks a month? It's not it's not that bad. But then Invidia has their version of it which I was in the beta for a while. And it's it fully streams everything Invidia the the old Vic graphics card company. Holy shit. Who is still around and still crushing it? And they make all of the and stuff that power like Tesla's like atonomy driving. They make they make all that stuff. In video is the biggest deal when we were when you were building out your machine like this would be you're going to get that g force, bro. Do they have the force forty eight hundred hour, whatever the numbers, we'll check the three D. Mark scores. Got a six thousand six thousand twelve like, my friend JP. Of course, the guy is the guy who's selling his thirty six hundred to buy a forty eight hundred you know, what I mean constantly slightly upgrading F chant even tell the video difference. I turn the shadow detail down by point three percent peasant card, you take this. All right. I'll take, but I do remember when I got my first like fucking with a nice in video card, and I was like, ooh. So Invidia GPA's men. They power power that Nintendo switch. They power lot consoles power a whole bunch of stuff. But they have a game streaming service. It's purely in the cloud. You don't really download anything locally. And I was on a macbook air like a little thin client. It could have been a two hundred dollar laptop as long as you can run the NVIDIA client streaming player. Unknowns battlegrounds, you grand theft auto any game that you have in your steam library. What you're streaming to it into consulates self is not render. 'ring it. It's being to the consulate feels like it's watching Netflix movie, you're playing with the controller in videos rendering it and their cloud, and streaming to your screen, and so that is that is fucking amazing to be in a hotel room as long as you have halfway decent wifi, and you can be playing full. Hi, reds, PC quality games. But streaming on your dumb little laptop that. That's why the heart stone was my hotel game because you could play that on my MAC book air. It's like when did you out what expansion relate now done with gnomes? I got out of it was early because I got in late and got out early because I jumped heroes of the storm because I got into Mobutu's. I was like, oh, I wanna learn about I actually wrote on a funnier die series called tales of titans, which was like an sports parody thing. And they were like, oh, do you play legal. I play the little they're like you might wanna play a game just to get an idea of. Oh, cool. And they're like well heroes of the storm is free, and it's blizzard on Mike. And of course, just like world of warcraft, Mike. Do you say I started playing heroes of the storm like two and a half years ago, and I stopped playing like three months ago. I couldn't stop and I wasn't even a lot of playing. I was playing like every day every other day for like a couple of hours not like insane because I would get angry and stressed. I really would be like punching my desk and shit and being like because it's so easy to get frustrated. We have to carry all these fucking scrubs. Yeah. Or stay in your lane. Literally, get your number. And it's like fuck, you know, while the we'd thrall has my number like, no matter anytime, we interact. He just gets me roots. Me kills me. You have five deaths and everyone the team hates you. And they're like twelve year old kid feeding I had to change my blizzard name to not have Gabrielson it anymore because it was like it was like people are like are you the guy from guy code you? Fuck and suck at this game. I've switched my name. Whole new level of trolling and grief. Ing I'm gonna get you personally. Well, now, I know why people have in nicknames. But here's the storm was so and I needed a game to break my addiction. I tried games. I couldn't I played the entire tomb raider XBox game, which was actually released gone kinda easy entry level blew through that. Then right back to. Here's the storm. I just needed to break it, so bad, a friend. I call the friend any game. No matter how old I needed to be on steam on my desktop to replace heroes storm, and he goes have you played x come to. And I was I I have not at all. And he's like try it. I think it's going to. I think you're gonna like it. I played x x come to. And I beat it. I broke my here's the like I played it for like three weeks straight and beat beat it. And was able to break. Here's the story. Like, I'm not getting those hero fix the twitches needed like a girl to get over my mytalk sick relationship. Like I needed a girl. Who's like I'm in town for three weeks. Let you let the buck like crazy and go see movies, and I'm gonna go back to Paris. Exactly. It's like just get you over the toxic relationship. You had with. Hots, and it was fun. Have you played? I played like old old old ex combat. Is it still like turn based tile based clicking move and stuff? Yeah. Really fun. But then there's a whole nother. There's like an RPG element and a sort of civilization world. Like, you have a spaceship that you're upgrading rooms on that gets you better power, which gets you more money, which gets you better weapon like human beings, or you limits, and you're fighting alien fighting alien spaceship, spaceship, you're like an elite force you fly. Like, okay, there's a human rebellion on earth and you like fly to North America. And once you liberate three of the sectors of North America. They're all able to communicate to each other. And then you start making more income and with more income you can get better soldiers better. And it's like, oh, did you. Oh, you rated you kill these people. You got ten corpses. You can either sell a corpse or use a corpse to do something like their currency corpses. Yeah. You because there's a black market where you can sell, and you know. How old are these organs? Yeah. Okay. We'll take them. Cool. But it was like a really an unlocked a lot of things because it is like you build your team. It's like to sharpshooters one specialist one Grenada one ranger, and you're like die on a mission to you lose them for the rest of the game. So okay. Those are the stakes stakes and didn't get critically wounded and not be able to go on another mission for fourteen days. And then they might even be shook when they come back and at their shook they need to make it through a whole mission without getting hurt. Can they be woke as well? Back in there. Like the bohemian. I don't think the freeze guys is cool. To gender normative. Let's just say, hey, people. Whoa. Why level seventeen ranger has shadow strike and also is super woke PCP game. Well done x com. Try that out really fun. I got it on steam it wasn't expensive. And it really is like, it's just simple fun strategy. And it's like getting to a point where you set up to sharpshooters on overwatch, which means they strike the first time, they see someone then you have like a Grenada throw grenade at a group of bag is away. Start running out to see what's going on in your shooters, take you have real military asks a nice orchestrated. One of those all about the cover games. Like are you in full cover half cover percentages to get hit and shit? Like, okay. It's really, and it really like scratches a lot of issues with the RPG spaceship the world level of it. So I just interviewed this guy Daniel Mullins he made a game called the heck's. He made a game called pony island. Which was like an indie game jam thing. It's not about ponies or islands. Okay. But you do play a pony in. It very weird. The heck's is I don't want to say too much spoil it. It's ten bucks on steam, full indie. You it's got a little bit of an RPG. It's got X com. Like tile and tactics. It's got a platforming like jumping with Mario. It's got first person shooter in there literally you play like six different characters all in the same world some of the characters. No their video game characters some of the video game characters. We'll talk to you knowing that you're the player, and you're there the video game itself will try to kill you. Because it believe it doesn't want you there entrees writing heck's. Yeah. It's called the heck's. And it's. Like, the inception of games. It's a delightful romp. And if you've ever if you're especially if you were raised on video games, there's so many like enjoy in so many like nods to like the NPC that's controlling the game, and the, blah, blah, blah, really good. But it you'll at one point you'll I won't put your playing and twitch chat slides out. And they're telling you what to do. And you're like what the fuck. My streaming right now. And then pops up with a game genie thing at the bottom to hack the game in real time. And so like your game gene o game game shark. Remember those fucking how did they work, so Hex based editing? You could do this on the PC. But you couldn't do that with the cartridge. It was a lock system. So they would do is like the heck's of a game that's running in real time. It's really interesting. So there was a game called soft ice or a program called soft is on the computer. It was basically the game. Gene. What you do is you play doom and you'd you'd tell soft ice to run you take a step forward. And then maybe like get shot. Right. Then you go back to soft is and go like, hey, what changed what? Memory addresses change, like all of these. Okay. Cool. Then you go back into the game. Don't move get shot. Go back. Soft is. Okay. What changed? Okay. Now. This little address changed. Okay. Go back into the game. Again, get shot go back in. And if you did that enough time if you track the changes of the games code over time, you could isolate oh, this value is your players health this value. Is there an no this value is how high Mario jumps. So you can just be like, dude. Yes. So game genie was basically like they were going in the canes. Like we talked about early hundred. Yeah. So games you neither like oh. We know the heck's of Mario. Or we know that double dragon. This is your players health. We're gonna freeze that and what you do put in the code to the game genie, which would tell the game genie. Whenever this value comes through don't change. It just freeze it or when this value comes through which is a jump, and it should be ten make it one hundred jump into another fucking. And so that's what it was. It would look for these values, and it'd be the freeze them or tweak them in some way. And you can really break. It was truly like magic. I remember when. Mike one dude had it. And you're like what you can just like you put your game in it. And then you put it in the machine, and it just gets it. It's like so while that's what let's wrap this up pretty soon. But what games are you either playing? We kinda talk about what you're playing now brawl all stars fucking great any games. You're looking to looking forward to on the horizon, the horizon, I did the anthem beta which is a e as new game it's like destiny, but third person and you right away. You're you're you play complaint squad. Coop. You have a crazy cool. Fuck jet pack, and you can sprint in dodge and do barrel rolls, and you can fly and then dive underwater, but you're still kind of flying. So the movement is awesome. The gunplay felt really good. They don't drop the ball on it. But it's bio aware. Really, really good dialogue real good world building. And just from that little alpha that I played it was only a couple of areas exploring the world flying around fucking throwing rockets at aliens and other like mercenaries and then flying hovering and machine gunning down that's fucking off. And then someone else just flies up because it's a shared world. Oh, hey, you wanna group up? Cool. Let's keep spraying these people with bullets. I'm excited for that. That's really the only game. And I just briefly watch a trail of it is the cyberpunk twenty twenty. Yeah. Yeah. That looks pretty fucking awesome. Yeah. That's one of those where it's like, oh, I really hope I can play this game. Anyway, because women demo it like on this mission. Bob is doing X, but he could do wise e or twelve or purple what only reason this mission is playing this way because he's unlocked the sniper. Oh shit. We know what I want to before we go. I think I'm becoming anti multiplayer game. What I disliked about heroes in the storm is that there's no pausing for twenty five minutes. Yeah. It's fun that it's digestible that. It's like twenty five minute games where you're like. Okay. I'm gonna play two games. And then get back to work never did that. But we had the option like it would be like, my wife would come home from work. And I'd be in the middle of a game. And I'm like hi bay miss you. Sorry that they'd kitchen sinks out there. But I just built and it's got a puppet. Exactly. And I'm not fuck. I'm sixty seconds run out kissing on the lips. Oh, cool. These your bags help you put these are you? Okay. Sweating cool down relate. Pizza any other time. Are you take your pants off? So ex come was a one player game. And then like playing shadow of more dorm laying fuck, and and I realized that was part of what I liked about sky rim. You know? I was like, oh, I don't need to get locked into somebody else's schedule. Because because I'm stoned I like to get high and play games I like to not like to but will tend to leave my controller and wander around the house. I just I spent a half hour making fuck in ground beef. I don't want to like I like to come back in the game just sitting there and your character's going like. Title animation. Just waiting tapping his foot not. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. But I still like so many good games coming out for multiplayer. I'm like, well just in deal and the good thing about like a hybrid like anthem is that at least from what they're promising and from other games at done it like a is that you can hop in with your friends run a couple missions. If you need to back out, you fucking you back out your friends continue on it's not like you interrupted their game or they have to stop or whatever go kissed her by get back to it. If you cared. Someone was telling me once that they played I forget what game it was. Maybe it was world of warcraft with a bunch of like like stone thirtysomethings and we'd be like every once in a while. All right, guys. Let's take a break, and you would just see like ten tunes standing in a room. Everyone's clearly smoking weed and there's just like team speak. Just like sitting with their heads down doing. Could be grinding right now the worst I we have to wrap it up. So next time we'll come back. And now now I'm bumped now to smoke gesturing to gesturing to a marijuana cigarette. Now, I bummed. Because it's not lit. But the tragic thing I liked tragic stories because I'm I'm deeply fucked up dark person gathered good, thank you, sir. So maybe you have one as well. But the worst situation was when the original x or excuse me, the Xbox One came out and had the connect right thing was always on. I like to connect. I actually liked that as a peripheral I would do the workout stuff. I would tell my TV to turn on and to watch TV I used it. But what people that know is that if you plugged into controller like for a headset and you're chatting with your friends like we were while playing Titanfall, and you unplugged the headset the connect microphone kicks on by default. And what happened in this particular game in case was that somebody's girlfriend? I think fiancee at the time came home. There was a bit of an argument brewing about something. He unplug the headset. So we're playing Titanfall his robot is there in the power downstate. And we're hearing that's the fucking speakerphone more or less because. Louder louder. We hear ourselves going. Hey, anybody have his phone number to call? And then we hear the phone ringing in the background answer. The phone. I'm not gonna fucking. Oh my God. I felt so powerless, and in that moment, it was it was I was I wanted to blame technology when I blame everything else. It just happened. It was unfortunate. But I realize that is one of the most intimate things ever like I happily talk about the details of intimacy like how how I fuck is fair game. But how you fight is particularly no one. No, it's not a positive reflection of neither you nor the person with both of you, look bad. And it's like you're like you don't want anyone to see that. It's an it's an inevitability. It's a foundation relationship but foundational relationships. We built our entire relationship on fighting with each other. It's like it's an assess ity it's a it's a necessary evil. That's cool that a car alarms happening right outside the studio. That's if any. With the mice down and fight with them. You had a nice logical end to the podcast. And I was like hold on. Let me tell a deeply depressing story about people fighting. Maybe this just never this is the patriot exclusing. Oh, yeah. This is I asked the pig here dark story in one extra dollar this. No. Are you kidding? A good ending. That's not a part of higher. I always I genuinely always leave your podcast with a smile and happy, and I always appreciate it. So it's been a pleasure to oh. I've been like watching you talk to me about tech and games for like ten plus years is to be friends with you now. Well, Kevin what's the name? Your pockets pointless pointless podcast and people can find me at attack on Twitter. They can find me. I'm always that's pretty much. I'm promoting shit about it. Right. Welcome to social media. So that attack on Twitter and it's the pointless podcast. Is there anything else you want people to check out guys you're doing a bunch of shit. We're doing a ton of stuff. Most of it is not worth your time in trouble. So it's mostly worth my time in trouble. Maybe I got to afford the addiction outside of that. You don't be concerned with it. But yeah, the the point is podcast. I'd appreciate it. If people gave it a listen, I was on an episode of. That's like a thing that would get you to jump over there since you're listening to high and mighty currently, but also tweet at attack and at Gabor's on Twitter with the games, you're looking forward to give us a and maybe some Indy. Steam gems to like something that maybe I'm sure we maybe are as informed. But I'm curious what other people are playing for sure for sure. And I got to join me umbrella stock. All your listeners should to get some clans going, and it's really fun. I swear you like all right. I'm gonna download brawl stars. And the heck's today. Awesome. We'll Kevin thanks for coming on as always at Gabor's on social media. Check action boys on patriot action boys with z dot biz raised by TV wherever you get podcasts. And look for me in January. I don't even know in this episodes coming out, so never mind. See later shitheads. That was a hit.

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REShow: David Aldridge. Hour 2 (05-29-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: David Aldridge. Hour 2 (05-29-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else you podcasts. And now early. This pair is the rich. Eisen show live from the rich. Eisen show studio in Los Angeles. Baseball cannot throw its hands up and say we're not playing because we couldn't figure out the mind the rich Eisen show earlier on the show. Mlb Network reporter. Tom VERDUCI coming up senior. Nba writer for the athletic. David Aldridge foxsports rules analyst. Mike Pereira was from TNT. Snow Piercer actor Michael Malley and now you're rich is everybody. Were here lot in Los Angeles on a Friday. The Rich Eisen show coming your way via as always noon to three eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel to eleven or YouTube dot com slash. Rich Eisen show is our livestream and we say hello here for the final two hours of our show as always to our friends and colleagues and fans who take us in on NBC. We say A Good Friday to you and before I introduce my two guys across the aisle I just WanNa say this off the top by setup something similar or at the very part of our program you know. We're we're always trying to be as cognizant and aware as possible what goes on outside these walls and whatever it goes on outside these walls and what we might be able to do to serve those seeking a break from it And we've been on every single weekday since the pandemic hit. 'cause we made a collective decision here on the rich. Eisen show To comment and also be wise when we go home and trust one another to do the right things and stay as healthy as possible for our families as well as for our viewing and listening audience and now I guess we're going to start to do the same with what's going on in the world and certainly places like Minneapolis in Louisville of Minnesota and Kentucky and for those out there in need of a break and those out there who are seeking justice and peace and hopefully finding it fast. I WANNA say we're thinking of you and we're with you so I just want to say that As we start the show and I turned to Chris Brockman Anniversay. Good Friday to you could find to you Mike del Tufo Good Friday to you or I could say good Wednesday good Monday because I do believe you wore that same pullover on both of those days of this. It's cold in here. I changed his shirt. Good to see both of you. Rich Bud all right eight. Four four zero four riches the number to dial. We've got lots of time to take your phone calls Don or EP. Put up a pup for everybody who we've got here coming up over the next couple of hours. David Aldridge is gonNA join us from the athletic my colleague from ESPN way back. In the day. I did a lot of Tosses to David Aldridge's reports many of them covering the Chicago Bulls in the last dance. He was all over that documentary. And I'm wondering wh when we are going to hear something from the NBA about return to play. There was a been a lot of chatter that June one would be the day and that is after this weekend June one would be the day that Adam silver makes an announcement of return to play. Here's what it will look like. We already heard from the NHL This Week. What it would look like maybe. Nba will do that before announcing the when we're all hearing the where could be Disneyworld. Which obviously would dovetail with one of its television partners business interests in Disney. So we'll see how that works. David will join us then. A couple of Mike's Pereira and o'malley Pereira the former head of NFL rafts. Now Fox sports rules analysts will join US and Because there's lots of talk about rules that were passed by the NFL. Yesterday rules that were withdrawn prior to the NFL voting yesterday rules. That were tabled the difference between withdrawn table. What the Hell does that Mean Pereira? Who's been in a lot of these meeting rooms with coaches and general managers and owners and competition committees in his time being the top Zebra and all the NFL land. He will join US and Chris Brockman. He will join us from the water the Water. He is going to be fishing really. He's going to be fishing is he. You asked him when he agreed to do the show last night via text on Mike. You sure the phone lines going to be fine. He says the signal strong he was there already. That very day is he. West Coast or east coast west coast fishing. Knock on wood. If you're with me. Thank goodness that was grateful dead. West Coast Fishing Ph is the fishing. And then Mike o'malley will join us He is in the new. Tnt hit show snow piercer. He's also a writer and producer of no. He has worked with Lebron James on television projects of note and he is going to be joining us on this program and lots talk about with him. He's also if you remember back in the day the rick from ESPN commercials to announce is how long ago was their websites though great their websites creation ninety nine and then when ESPN plus was created. Recently they brought him back. The Rick came back and he doesn't look like he aged today and he's still fits into the same. What is it a is it? A Ray bork sweater. And he ever saw number right now. Yeah I think it was just a regular bruins sweater right and the red sox backman socks had women in his garage. I mean just the greatest man the greatest so at any rate he will be joining us. And He's also a youth baseball diehard here in Los Angeles area he is. He is the one of the guys to go to. If you want your son or daughter to try baseball and say what's a good league. What's a good spot? He's really just a dynamite. Individual amazing really is so he'll be joining us later on this and this and this program eight four four two four riches the number to dial so you know in the same way that we're going to be having an exit interview with the David Aldridge for the last dance. This'll be our last last dance. Exit interview we talked with. Ahmad Rashad afterwards Rod Thorn. Afterwards we talked with will perdue during and we talk shack afterwards but though he didn't really sit down for the documentary but we just wanted to get his thoughts on it. We talked to Charles Barkley. We talked to Bob Costas Andrea Kremer. Lot exit interviews. David will be joining us. But so we like to put buttons on things right and with the last dance when it was going down one of the many reasons. I thought why it was so popular is we were able to plug it into some real time. Real live current sports conversations. Sure WE RE litigated the Dream Team and Isaiah Thomas and other issues that Horace Grant would probably be at the front of the line to voice but current issues like Brady leaving New England that dynasty dynastic pairing of Brady and belichick breaking up and why even though it lasted almost three times as long as the Jordan's dynasty dynastic run. I guess if you want to go from ninety one and ninety eight like an eight year run check and Brady lasted twenty years. By the way you're and it's like how come you couldn't go along twenty years twenty years and another another conversation that this plugged into was Jordan. Loves DRAFTING IN GREEN BAY planning for the end of a ron or as Brett farve appeared on this show a few wednesdays ago? Getting the wheels turning in Aaron Rodgers head to maybe speed up a departure because at some point out to find out who you have what you have in Jordan love to either flip them. Allah Garoppolo or flip rogers off for Rogers so we heard from farve after the drafting got his opinion on it said he spoke to Rogers who any termed him saying surprised he said. I don't want to share any more of our conversation. I'll just say he was surprised. Then I rodgers spoke a few Fridays. He goes sort of like a Friday news. Dump met met with the media and he turned himself as surprised and handled it. Totally first-rate class. Act Not Jordan loves fault you know but it does what he said he said something along the lines of how it it messes with the controllables. I guess in a way exit controllables less able to control whatever we've now heard from that leflore. The packers head coach made his first public radio appearance. And he did it on. Espn Wisconsin and asked about the maneuver and how to interpret the packers decision to select love. He said the following it was just one of those situations where there were a couple guys targeted that had just previously been picked and Jordan was the next guy on the board so we went with the best player at the time. The old best player available now that well I mean they. Could've you could've been sitting there on board. The question was they. Were sitting on the board deep down. The they moved up the board to go get him so you could have said. Hey you know Brandon I. You was somebody we could use. We could've popped up to go get him. He was top player on our board. But we just stayed put of all the people trade up to go. Make sure the best player on your draft board was going to be yours. You couldn't wait. Had to be Jordan. Love it just doesn't it doesn't it. Doesn't pass the so-called smell tests and I'm not saying that he is being shifted at all because he he was flat out saying that he and Rogers talk four times a week whenever we get those opportunities to meet in those individual meetings and I feel really good about where we're at. We both understand that. This is a business. I totally believe that. I think he in Leflore could be fine for sure that when they're in the proverbial football foxhole together this fall knock on wood. If you're with me that they'll be able to dial up. Plays dial things up and rodgers will definitely look at him. Potentially it's on occasion and think this is a guy who is the man the buffet at Lambeau Club that he is planning on. Never leaving right and so he might use it as fire as far of suggested. And certainly if you read between the lines of what Roger said but you could sit here also and say well your draft. Board evaluation had love that high. You couldn't wait five more spots. You want to run the risk thinking that somebody would trade up to go get him from where you sitting in to move up those spots and then there's this comment as we are looking at the screen of the rest of the draft him mentioning. Espn RADIO WISCONSIN. That when asked about areas to improve upon twenty twenty. He said one area. We really need to improve on his creating more explosive plays. We WERE PRETTY EFFICIENT. But we were twenty. Third Explosive plays that starts with play. It's on him. And maybe take a few more chances to help generate those plays down the field seats on him. There's no lie matter the floor but you want to look on the screen and look for those explosive play guys that they might have gotten the the one that might be. The most explosive is a guy who's not gonNA have any chance of starting for any time soon potential. Ha Dylan might have. Some explosive plays in from Boston. College aside Guevara's at tight end who they're planning on using a US check fullback type role. I mean where's the explosive plays coming from when you add. They boast deep wide receiver draft around Matt. Leflore call the rich Eisen show. I've got questions you've got answers didn't draft wide receiver. Those leaped out at me. God it top players are top player. Our board we just went with the top layer on the board. The problem is where you were on. The board wasn't where you were originally slated to draft. You had to improve that position specifically to match your board with the reality that you didn't do for the kid that everybody adored and sitting there on the board and then explosive plays you want explosive. Plays than drafted right. The guys were right there just waiting now trae and and again come on. I'll just I'll just relitigate this. Since that's the word we're using is still running. I think he hit his head on the goalpost moments ago in the field of genes in northern California against that packers defense that they could also used to improve right there. And if you beat this team in the air with a big chunk play then the packers will we losing to the same team again and the guy that they could have gotten? They moved up. Maybe because I'm assuming if you're looking at the draft board guys that they had I. They had to avoid this kid. That's why Zimmer. Yesterday I tried to get some fun with him. Head coach of the Vikings that when you moved out of the twenty fifth spot the trade down to thirty one so San Francisco could go get this dynamic receiver potentially sparking the packers to move up to go get Jordan love. 'cause I was gone. And that's now created an issue at the quarterback spot of your we assume main rival for you in the NFC north. What did you think of that? And he's like they don't WanNa play. Rogers I mean. I think that's the most fun bulletin board thing that you could get out of Mike Zimmer with a question answer crowbar like I attempted yesterday all that stuff just kind of left out at me. Christopher you know as I expected I I'm not by color me know that. Hey look man it now. It's it's something just to keep an eye on. Don't forget that team even with the issues in the chunk play department and Matla floors first year. Coaching that he raised his hand and say the play calling might have been off. That team was still one Jacob Hollister inch away from scoring against the forty niners away from being the one seat in last year's. Nfc Ploughs so maybe they could do it again. Just got to beat the forty niners when they face them and Green Bay faces the. Let me see right here and the second Sunday in November. Oh my goodness gracious. Look at that on Sunday night football. I'm a pardon me on Thursday night football short week boy while they Green Bay at New Orleans on Sunday night football week three Green Bay at Minnesota. Come on packers one one in three before the by come on now by the way one and by way the packers could start one and eight far set if it starts. Owen three CS Jordan. Love starting right now. That schedule is really hard. Speaking man. That's that was the one most eyebrow raising comment far had when he was on our show a few wednesdays ago that I even would disagree with but I think he would know how Green Bay fans react and media. Reacts a lot better than I would if they go and three the discord he thinks could go get ugly fast and suggest Jordan. Love even getting out there. Look at those first nine game and by the way the game against Atlanta. I've got something to share with you. About the Atlanta Falcons and a dream. I had overnight by the way and for the long term fans of the the second dream I had about the Atlanta Falcons in the history of this number coach I dreamt I was their coach. During training candidates phenomenal we Dan. Quinn almost made it happened correct. I brought it up Dan Quinn talk about psychotherapy and being need. So it's David Aldridge coming up next from the athletic what do we expect from the NBA? And when Mike per and Mike o'malley the final hour your phone calls as well at eight four. Four two zero four rich. The Rich Eisen. Show live from Los Angeles on NBC. Send all right. Everybody knows I nine eight Games guys. Come also rough one in seven. Can you put it up again? Donna and we confirmed yesterday green. Bay's never started a season at Minnesota the reverse has been the case but never at Minnesota to start season. She come right out of the box man. They'll say they'd beat the Lions Week to either. The lions the first half of the season last year. You never know or staffer got hurt. He was nominal season at New Orleans on a Sunday night. No chance now again. You have to understand that. There could be a quarter of fans in the stadium. I if there if we're lucky. But if they're pumping in crowd noise. I don't know how what they're gonNA do the. Nfl has so many weeks to figure this thing out then home for Atlanta on Monday night in front of who knows who's called that game for ESPN as you know. I still think it should be breen. Could be me the guy we. You're if you're a packer fan you signed for two and two. Yes you signed for two and to win win when the Games at home. Lose the ones on a road. It's one in three. Let's say those explosive plays. Aren't there yeah. Lax Not doing anything Jordan. Loves NOT READY? Jordan loved Steph? Louis Jordan debt Jordan. Loves DEFINITELY NOT READY TO GO at Tampa especially if the J. J. WATT? Who says that he wants to prove it like? Don't even talk about contract with me. I want to prove it. It's time to place some tag. And then home for Minnesota at San Francisco. Holy Crap the bucks or four four and one start the air and then the one three. Oh Baby Holy Crap. They could be two six the first nine games you go arts David Aldridge will be. We'll be getting him on the phone hopefully shortly And then we'll take some phone calls and and whatnot you're on the rich. Eisen show Mike Pereira and Mike o'malley. Yeah let me now. Now that my phone is on frozen. You got something over there. Okay unfrozen caveman phone. Okay Yeah Unfrozen Caveman phone. Let me get where Pereira exactly is. He is a reservoir water fishing boats. Or is he just? What reservoirs You Land Reservoir. Mike Police chief used to do it all the time. Your land fishing. Okay as land fishing. You 'cause they might not let you on a boat. It depends if it's private or public. Okay find as alleged. That's amazing I don't know I checked it yesterday. I'm good. You know him Zang. I'd check the spot yesterday. We're good so for four to four rich number to dial. Call it folks. We'll have some time to take your calls here on the rich Eisen. Show do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home go to Geico Dot Com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM eight four four tool for riches. The number two down Chris Brockman. Do we have a poll question fashioned over there at richeisenshow you give me the look of you. Don't have one. That would be so disappointing to me. That there's no question doesn't show. There is nothing really good on the day calendar today and I don't have one you don't have one now okay. Real good. No no celebrity birthdays. I did have an interesting conversation before with Adam. Callscreener yes Today's Carmelo Anthony's birthday today. Okay and You know that's been made about his career in the last couple of years. Whose career would you rather have Carmelo? Anthony are Vince Carter home and no championships for either. Both kind of dynamics or Carmelo mellow one one in college. Well yes but I'm and he's our greatest Olympic performer but no NBA Championships. Which one would you choose because I go vince really. Yeah that's kind of what Adam said to the last few years you know. Vince is Kinda just playing on the rosters. Averaging like we used to seeing Vince Carter Take Anthony. His peak was a little bit better than Vince. Carter both hall of fame players. But they're Chris off Apropos. Nothing birthday today. Oh well happy birthday to him. How many how? Many years thirty six for thirty six years on any man. I feel so damn tell me about it. And you know it's funny I couldn't have felt any older watching the last dance as we know. I snuck in there and episode ten with my my my hair my flowing mane and some people like Costas looks the same David. Eldridge's same thing. Look the same from the athletic. The Dave my friend David Aldridge. Da richeisenshow show haven't aged day. Da Not a day Richard. It's good to know that. Utd isn't working very work on contracts definition definition is standard. How are you are you? Well everybody in your family well I hope David Mocking on would here. Well yeah I mean there's no covert stuff there's some other stuff but that's You know it is what it is Dealing with something so But so but nothing with regard to the virus so that's at blessing with older relatives especially And you know just trying to. Oh I don't know navigate these unchartered water. No I understand. Do I understand again I came on the air and I said I hope everybody seeking justice and peace finds it immediately And I'm assuming that's what you are referring to and It's just you know I guess for the purposes of this show. It's just another reason why You know I think people seek out. What maybe we're going to be talking about in sports world and and the last dance was so successful to just lose ourselves And forget about what's going on outside. David Yeah Yeah. Yeah it's hard and it's Part of I wrote today That it's very difficult right now for me to be You know all about sports you know. Sports is important to get back and open everything up. It's very difficult to have that kind of discussion right now. You know With everything that's going on in our country and I understand believe me what. I'm sure you do too rich. We all understand that sports are important to people. F- Dos there. How we made living. You know what I'm saying like I get it I understand. We've made a living covering sports for very long time. As if you and we get and we know that it's important to a lot of people it's important to us right. I mean it is I want. I want sports to come back Certainly and I want the games to come back because I do think it will help. It will help a lot of people But I know that it's also you know there are people who aren't thinking about that right now. I just I would just like people to Be Cognizant of that. No that you know entertainment and distraction and all those things are not things that everybody has and the front of their consciousness right now. I understand we can all understand that that will go a long way toward a lot of different things. Well then. I'm particularly thankful of you taking the time today to call. I wasn't addressing. You know and I I didn't. I didn't take it at that but I just wanted to at least acknowledge in and and in respect what you've just said. Oh with at least me saying that you know I appreciate that very much. So it's hard it's hard right. There's no question about a David you know and and again that's why. I'm I'm appreciative of you calling in David Aldridge of the athletic here on the rich Eisen show. Where where? Where do things stand best? You can tell Because we we we did hear from the NHL This Week format man. You're seeing baseball. Having all sorts of collective bargaining arguments. It seems That's bubbling to the surface. Where where are things with the NBA? It's Union and an announcement Or for readiness to to play again. I think the the the the NBA Union situation is much better in terms of cooperation with the league than the baseball unions. Is I mean that? That just seems to be Spiraling you know out of control in Baseball The the Basketball Union is is working. Pretty much channing. Love League I mean is a literally a joint committee. That's trying to come up with different scenario. They're not anywhere near finished yet. But they are working together. You know The the Union is basically signed off on you know Orlando as the site of a playoff tournaments however whatever format that ultimately becomes The the baseball the basketball players put money into escrow For the use of the owners in case the season were to be canceled for whatever reason? that so that so the owners have some sort of financial certainty in terms of their losses. Being you know stanch somewhat right For the rest of this year So there and the the biggest thing riches that both the you know the players and the owners both WanNa play. They both want this to continue. They want the season to continue and they wanted to conclude with season. Play and having a champion so my experience with the League over many years is that when the players and the owners both want something happened it tends to happen and so I think that's why you know. There's there's a lot of optimism boring almost uncertainty that there's going to be you know a resumption of play at some point. We've probably in July. That would last into September at some point before concluding with the finals. Any idea if it's a two city to hub city or one hub city. Anything of that. I think right now I mean I know there's been talk about Houston as a possibility but I you know I know that that You know Bob Eiger has been pushing very hard for Orlando and Disney world and again I think the the players in the main and you're not gonNA hundred percent support on anything but I think in the main most most players most of their agents There are some age is still holding out from Vegas for different reasons But most people are all pointing in the direction of Orlando. Now you know what's again. The shape of that will be determined by how many teams are in the tournament. How many regular season games you play. Do you play all those regular season games. IN ORLANDO. Do you play them off site somewhere else. You play another city. That's another city comes in but I think the Coalition Behind Having Your playoff tournaments with however many teams qualify in Orlando has pretty much been signed off on by the all the all the important parties in well. I'll tell you this if I'm a player with family and I got kids and I want to bring them into the if you to use the phrase bubble community Disneyworld wouldn't be a bad place if everybody can be let me know. They're safe kids. The kids can do that while while dad tries to win. The Larry O'Brien trophy. I mean that that would be something. I be more inclined to do attempt. Yeah it's a and that's part of it. That is definitely part of it is that there's just more for family for the families to do for the for the for the kids to do For even for the players to join days and you can go play golf in. Orlando you know on an off. Day True On one of their eighty seven golf courses right you know whereas Vegas you know. It's not it's not that Orlando hasn't hot in the summer is not that. It's not humid his but it's not one. Oh seven like it was yesterday Las Vegas you know what I mean insurance that. You can't go outside Las Vegas in the summertime. Just cats you know like there's not much to do Doesn't give you you know heatstroke so you know I mean you've gotta you know so that's where I think a lot of people are leaning more towards Orlando Than Vegas Vegas. Subways probably has more experience and would be easier to control a hotel or at least they a chain of hotels. You know if you had the wind encore if you had Mandalay Bay and you could probably control that a little bit more but there will be far less for families to David Aldridge senior. Nba writer here on the rich. Eisen show and so what about the format or are you hearing? 'cause you know You you already here Some like Steve Kerr seen. He's figuratively on a beach right now. That we're there. And then you hear Damian Lillard and I think he's every right to say I I don't want to leave my family and my home or even bring them across the country. If I'm just playing out a string like you put me in a term where I've got a shot where I can I can do my dame time stuff then I'm in Where where does that stand right now? Do you think David I think if you you know to. To kind of you know generalize in terms of where they are. I think more people want more games right. So my guess is you will have some sort of tournament type of playoff format. Where whether it's one team whether it's two teams per conference and you wind up with twenty teams in this thing or you come up with some way where everybody's involved now. I'm not I've been asking a lot of people the last few days. Well Golden Faith already been eliminated from the playoffs how you eliminate especially by the way the most the most dangerous fifteen seed in the history of fifteen exaggerated Klay Thompson healthy right. But you're not get it. Look I know you want compelling programming to lay off again you want you dying in the playoffs. I get it. You know what I mean by There's a basic fairness you get. It's not like you played five days and then you shut down. You played sixty five. Okay you blame. Most of the season you played eighty plus percent of the season all ready so there has to be some sort of fairness regards to that those that percentage of the season meaning. Something you know doesn't have to mean everything but it should mean something right. I think there's a I think the argument of the Milwaukee the world is somewhat compelling. We did play a lot of the season. We were really good for most of that. Yes we should be able to take some of that advantage to the post season and I and I tend to agree with that so I think it will be. I don't think it'll be all thirty. I just can't see that I don't know how you can other than other than than playing those five seven games at the you know to get to you. Know they have obligations to their local. Tv markets in their local TV partners. So everybody's gotTa get to Seventy Games So that they don't lose more money you'll so you'll do you'll you'll do that right. So all thirty teams will play to get the seventy. But how how you then say that. It's okay for Cleveland in New York Golden State to compete for a championship. This year Steph. Just doesn't seem right to me. David Aldridge here on the rich. Eisen show on a few minutes. Left with you I've I've been conducting last dance exit interviews for a lot of people who now that now that it's all in the books Did you learn anything watching I? I can't say I learned anything and that's just because I'm old and I was there some up. I saw most of it. I mean you forget something. There's that's a different. That's a different point. Like I just forgot that Rodman just went to Vegas in the middle of the season right about that. I didn't remember that. I just forgot that he in the middle of the finals just left to go. Wwf and it just it just kind of reemphasize to me. You know what? I think a phenomenal job Phil. Jackson did coaching three years. Because it could've gone off the rails a hundred times you know So you forget things that happen And I'm just what I felt branches. I'm just glad that younger viewers and younger people who like the NBA. Now you know fans under forty who weren't there or they were infants when when that was going on. I have no recollection of it. I'm just glad that they have some sense. Not only of how good Michael Jordan was. 'cause he was that good and you remember he was that good. I mean that is. We're not making that. He was one of the greatest players if not the greatest player. Voltaren right but how competitive and dynamics league was in terms of the rivalries Passan's and the hatred and all of those things that's those teams had for one another and how compelling that Meza Games and so it wasn't and what. I'm what I'm trying to explain to people that you know. Eighty five eighty four could be a hell of a game if they really hate each other and every possession is a battle. You know to be like this. I mean it's not just about it's not just about you. Know shot efficiency all the time you know part of why some of US older people really came to love the NBA was because the competition was so visceral and real you know and and that and that made it compelling even though they didn't score a hundred and fifteen points every game you know like it was still really fun to watch those games back in those years slowly. It was me too and I do remember part of the conversation being at the time and this is legit and now you look back like what the hell are people even saying like. Yeah but the western conference was so weak when Jordan would just win all the time right and then you saw and you also just saw to the the the the the people who he beat he beats magic he beats Malone and Stockton he beats Barclay and Phoenix. He Beats You Know Reggie Miller on the way he beats Patrick Ewing every single damn time and then he beats Gary Payton in the sonics when they were terrific. And then you see you know the the Pistons. Ooh He couldn't beat to start then he'd vanquishes them on the way and the number of people who every single time. I'd sit there. I'm like you know what every fan base is GONNA get. There's during this ten part documentary. Every fan base is GonNa get theirs and then they showed the trivia the number of sixty teams Jordan in the Phil Jackson Pippen Bulls eliminated numbers at seven of them sets third number and absurd and Shaquille O'Neal in Orlando. He wound up. Taken out to you know I. It really was just remarkable in that regard. But Oh my last one for you here. Was there a story? You told Jason Hare the director that you thought man. I would have been great if they if they aired that that we didn't see that hit the cutting room floor. You were in the middle of Sony Great Stories from the the forget. I guess slight that that Jordan created His name escapes me. The kid from the The Washington that Brad Bradford Smith Smith just do you were you. Were telling all these great stories. Was there one that you you told that a man. I wish made the final cut. I'm you know I a couple of people have asked me that rich and honestly I. I was surprised I they use me way more than I thought storyteller. David Your it well. Here's the thing I get. I was one of the latter interviews that they did. And that's a couple of a lot of resilience couldn't find the time at work for either of us for a long time and so I thought and I'm not and I'm not being like self aggrandizing about this at all rich. I thought okay. They've shot you know they've done a lot of interviews. They've got all the take that they're probably going to. You know they're gonNA but there'll be and you know this being television you celebrate you have to cover it with something you can't you can't show blank screen. You have to cover it with something so I thought okay. I'll be the guy that fills in the gaps. This up. They don't they don't have to tape up forever resides. You know what I mean less. So I'll be that guy and I'll be in like two or three times of course and you know what I was. I'd be fine with that. You know I was kind of expecting that so I was pleasantly surprised us. Most of my soul David. If if you if you were a role player a bench player for the last of any of the microwave. Johnson you were I mean. You're Steve Kerr one of those guys. I actually it more than I thought it was. I was I was a pleasant surprise was happy with Can't complain about it was great. I really the whole thing from soup to nuts was was wonderful and you know at least at least what they did use of you. You didn't wind up on an IPAD being handed to Jordan. Because you didn't want to be one of those people in the last thing. They want to get the market laugh. That's the last thing you want to be on one of those ipads Jason Hare handed brought. George say thank you. Thanks for the time Daniel. Yeah you don't WanNa be that. Thanks appreciate the Term David Pleasure. Always a pleasure thank you. That's David Aldridge. DidN'T WANNA be that guy out you're on an IPAD again. That's the extra WANNA see. Maybe we should get Jason Heron. One more time right. I love enough of your phone calls. Eight four four zero four rich when we come back here on the rich. Eisen show and I had a dream that involved. The Atlanta Falcons again. Then oh goodness crazy. That's coming up. You gotta move on gotTa move on on right by the way you have that. Drop ready because again. I don't know why I have got admission when I sleep a little weird but you know what to tell you a good chat with David Aldridge. He's been there now. You've got a wife and kids. Okay so imagine yourself with another child. Yup I shouldn't. I shouldn't ask you this question because you got a little baby right now and I know what you're instagram stories account used to look like store chains between Vegas or or Disneyworld to go play in the NBA as your bubble city. We're going to LAS VEGAS OKAY now. But you'd have to. You'd get your own casino. Is that what you're saying you get your own Jordan? Just give me a wing just one on the wing it but it's not in. What if they demand you play one hundred two hundred? Broccoli works in play one or go to be? It's going to be Brockman horseshoe with a little then grabs her downtown Mt. Yeah it's awesome the draft just Kinda realized. Who the hell am I ask God come on? Now he's GonNa go on Mr Toads wild ride yet. No we're we're we're few but if you've got if you've got if you're one of the NBA players on the up and up and you've got a wife and that's all you have just a wife and two kids. If you're like Chris Paul who's got a family career. You want to go dizzy. Lamb straight where. I'm going to practice and I know I know it's clean. It's safe and it's just you know maybe for an NBA an NBA part of the park or like creating even the curry's who have three young kids. I don't you think the curry's would want to go to like. Hey while I'm practicing. I'm winning or I'm attempting to win. I know that my kids are when there's no school because school's out for summer. There's no filming. There's no remote learning. There's not of this right so I'm sure Bob Eiger he's involved. He will roll out the red carpet. They'll be a lot of passports to fund given to the NBA. They're not staying at the contemporary looking. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's Geiko Dot Com G. I. CO DOT COM podcast. One is home to our podcast. Listen subscribe you can catch all three hours whenever you want with your ear gate to use the Michael Irvin phrase. I've never heard anybody else used that. But he uses that phrase about listening he calls it putting it in your ear gate You can do that with the rich. Eisen show eight four four two four rich number to dial. We'll take your calls in a second. It's it's quite funny. That Brockman My my man Brockman my friend my producer across the aisle who got a lot going on When you come here you got a lot to do. But the poll question at Rich Eisen show is in. Your in your purview. Didn't have one kind of made one up on the spot. Based on a conversation you had with Adam are callscreener. Because it's Carmelo Anthony's thirty-six birthday and so you know what did you talk with them about? Who's career would you rather have Carmelo Anthony? Your Vince Carter's because I guess Vince would be the closest to a contemporary event equivalent to Mellow College. College career no NBA Championship. Long career. Vince one with Carolina. Don't believe so. Let me tell you stood out there. Advertising show whose crew would you want? And you remember Vince Carter. Did he did? He leave a series plus get the knicks to go graduate. I think he missed a playoff game. You missed a game to go graduate and I remember the reason why that was particularly big on. Espn is because Stuart Scott delivered. The commencement address. When Vince Carter walked which I know Stewart got a huge boost out of just speaking to a graduating class North Carolina. What a Hugh I mean. He was walking on era. Remember that that was the one where Vince walked. He gave he gave that speech so our poll question was based on. Just you know you didn't have one now. It's pissing you off because because you're syracuse suspect for Carmelo. Anthony is outrageous on this poll. Vince is up eighty to twenty right. Now wow okay so here now. You Vince. Cars. A cool dunker. Come on so my. I guess the moral of the story would be if you don't want to be outraged by poll question cal with a better one. Yeah I got a little bit better. Speaking of which I had. I had an a moment this morning. I woke up Mike. Did I really dream that last night? I did. I wake now on about you about during during this pandemic my dreams have been particularly vivid and crazy. Whatever it's been way for you folks at home but a few years ago obviously pre Cova nineteen. I had a dream that That I was the head. Coach of the Atlanta Falcons and I was coaching them. During training camp. It was a few was after Jim. Mora was let go and Dan. Quinn was hired there and they went with Dan. Quinn Maher and I dreamt that I was the new head coach there or co head coach. Dan Quayle and I told him this when he called into the show and he invited me to go to training camp and I almost made it just for various reasons. I couldn't make it to during the summer because of what was going on with. Nfl Network. I couldn't get there and then this show. There just was impossible to make it work. But he would have given me a whistle and a visor. I would not have done the pull up. White Sox all the way to my knees. The way wouldn't have done that. But my Dream last night involved. The Falcons is that I watched the Falcons they were taking on the saints. Okay and this is just shows you? How need football I? They're taking on the saints and they're going for to for the win. They flipped it out to Devante Freeman. Who's not even on the team anymore? And he was tackled for a five yard loss and they lose and I wake up and I thought I literally thought this myself even in my dreams. They don't use Julio Jones when they should I swear to you? That's what I thought even in my dreams. Julio Jones didn't get the fifty fifty ball for the win and I thought maybe part of that is because I was just thinking about this fourth and fifteen play being fifty fifty ball away from teams maintaining possession in the in in crucial spot in the NFL. And that's called fifty fifty for a reason the reason why you call a football that's thrown up to somebody who's like six foot five or can leap tall building in a single bound at the wide receiver position. It's a fifty fifty ball because it's like a coin flip it's a fifty fifty shot that your guy gets it and plus there's also shot that the other guy could get it to so you're flipping a coin is to who gets it and if the on side kick is a ten percent chance you can do the math about a fifty fifty ball the differences because a fifty fifty ball could be brought down all of a sudden. It's a better shot than an onside kick. I'm literally thinking this stuff and I'm trying to put two and two together. I have no idea why. The Atlanta Falcons are on my brain. Or the fact that it would serve for me to mention it here and tr- troll on the fact that they never use Julio Jones inside the red zone you do have a strange obsession with Matt Ryan and his name. Brits you gotTa move on gotTa move on. I try to nickname him. The Natural Mattie is is just not acceptable. When was the first time you came up with the match relied on? Podcast saying is eight years ago more than that. It's to be well again to me. It's you know natural. Light Beers are so old. Why are we taking a nickname of the beers that he's supposedly used drank or like to drink or were invoked to drink when he was great in Boston College? Why are we still using that for this guy? He's he's a grown ass man with children. He's a grown ass man with a super bowl appearance in an MVP award does not need to have a nickname based on a a light beer. Like it's it's lame. I don't like it. I think it's it's old and I know that what I make is a joke calling him the match based on his first name and I know I've been pounding that into the sand point year old movie offer. I get I get it. So you're saying the movies and older reference than the beer itself exactly. I mean. He's not call. Home Citizen Matt Seventy Year Old Book. I mean what are we seeking Brockman? Eight call them. Look Mattie Cabernet or something if you're trying to class up the joint that makes no sense. I don't know what you're talking about. Baddie cavern my favorite moment. Though in the history of this is keeping on asking him so he tells me to move on right but then I offer the nickname to I believe one of his best friends in the NFL in. Stafford you move on offer seconds and then of course they offered it to Patrick Mahomes for for the pattro texted you back laughing. Ha ha ha. No I think that's terrible. Wow three-strikes it's over more. Just there's three outs and inning. As far as I'm concerned you can match shop. He doesn't have a nickname not yet. Okay Henry in Wisconsin. Let's take your phone call here on the rich Eisen show. It's Henry well. Thank you for letting me talk. 'cause I gotTa Lot to say okay. I got about two minutes to the timeframe of. I'm a fifty year packer fan. Okay Sir. If the packers lost three in a row we'd be screaming for two. Gm's had that's what we'd be doing this fall. We have the same quarterback we got a quarterback and says he wanted to retire in Green Bay and this guy the draft choice. I Brown is crazy. I'll tell you another thing that's really bad. The second round draft choice running back. He's got he's got him so he isn't going to have to pay jones the seventeen or eighteen million dollars a year that he's worth and if he does that packer fans are. GonNa go crazy. We'RE NOT WE. Don't sit back you know we're mid West people but I'm telling you we are all packer fast and we're not GONNA put up with this guy he's GonNa be gone. Well let's just put it this way. We'll see if AJ Dylan can actually give some more depth to the position that perhaps you didn't have And we'll see what to Guarico due to because if he can play a US check role that will be helpful. I just think they need some more wide receiver help. And they didn't get lawn and pick up Hopkins I who knows if they were in the running for that. It's entirely possible that they were. We have no idea why he went to Arizona. We have no idea what happened there. I don't want to request. But they also don't they they add the you know if you're going to pay somebody it's going to be devante Arabs. You know and you already talking about not wanting to pay Aaron Jones paying paying restructure his contract Rogers contract you need to. You can't do it with one wide receiver. How about this then? Let's just say this and I appreciate. I appreciate the call Henry and I love the passion right there. How about this? Let's be more positive. Let's be more glass half full. Let's say Aaron Rodgers is usual Aaron Rodgers season and this team? That could have been the one seed if not for bounce the ball here or there Is going to be better. The problem is I think the forty niners are too and you could go from one year to the next and say there's no correlation the forty niners last year is a perfect example but San Francisco's that much better. They got better in the draft in a manner in which the packers I don't believe did but we have no idea who these kids are and what they can do. And what the drafting of Jordan love might light a fire inside Aaron Rodgers. You could basically say I'M GONNA turn this kid into Garoppolo just like Brady did. So we'll see can't wait to chat with this man. Mike Pereira talking about the rules changes that were made and not made. That's coming up. Hey Hey this NFL. Hall of Famer. Ray Lewis I'm excited to announce the launch of my new part gas every day greatness. Ray Lewis podcast. I'll be talking with friends. Family members ole teammates athletes celebrities moguls. And guess what I'll be talking to you. Listen this is all in the search for every bed greatness. 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Episode #103: Find Your People (Stephanie Pereira)

The Limit Does Not Exist

43:39 min | 9 months ago

Episode #103: Find Your People (Stephanie Pereira)

"Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL. Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let them stay on the ice. Apply some nights. He even slept in his hoppy skates Pete practiced and practiced until when he was forty seven. Pete realized he just wasn't that good so so he threw his skates in the trash. But then you heard how diko proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance so he switched and saved a bunch so it all worked doubt the limit does not exist is a production of iheartradio. Hey I'm Christina lawler and I'm Kate Scott Campbell. We're here to help you follow your curiosity. Celebrate your individuality reality and embrace the end Nafi or so you can turn everything you love into a custom built career. That's unique and dynamic as you are if you feel that one past may not be your only pack and you call yourself a human ven diagram then you are in the right place because when it comes to pursuing your passions we believe the limit does not exist. Who's in your community? Do you have a group of people who inspire support art and show up for you or are you a human ven diagram who feels like you don't quite fit in anywhere. Maybe you're just starting out or you've taken time off for you've changed paths and you have no idea where your people are. Or maybe you feel like your interests are so unlike anyone else's that your best option is to go it alone in the idea of finding or building a community of your own feels abstract scary or totally impossible. I think this episode is going to change that. Yes our gas this week. Is Stephanie Pereira. Who is a community engagement expert? Stephanie is currently the Director of new INC which is an incubator for creators. Who are are working at the intersection of three of our favorite? Things are design and technology but Stephanie's community expertise doesn't end there. She is over six seers of experience at kickstarter as a member of its leadership team and she created a very popular skill share class which she gives insider tips on successfully launching in a new idea into the world. Do we ask Stephanie to share those tips with us. You better believe it. We also discussed the difference between laziness and disconnect connect super. Important as Stephanie tells us how she went from barely passing to making the Dean's list just by being true to herself yet and how she broke free from crying in her cubicle to find her place in the world important tacos were involved tacos anyway. Let's Meet Stephanie. Honey let's do it your bio describes you as the community engagement expert Burke. What is that actually? What does that mean to community engagement expert? Yeah it's a great question. I kind of invented it. I think you know in this moment. Where a lot of our communities are have been taken online? A lot of people are doing deep engagement online. We're doing doing listening active listening. We're talking we're doing all of the things. There's this sort of emerging class of professionals who are experts at understanding. howdy ladies setup how to manage how to engage to support other people in facilitating those kinds of spaces and starting ages ago Through some work I was doing in public schools I in Chicago and then a New York City and then you know through my work working at community arts organizations. I've this is like it was sort of a happenstance set of skills that I developed and then working at kickstarter which is in the tech sector which there is this known sort of community manager role I picked up a lot of actual like true professional experience along along the way. Learn that it's a field that is just currently professionalizing. The rules are still being written. There's as the amax is one of the biggest community manager sort gatherings and the I think they're like five years old so I mean I think yeah understanding how do you navigate big diverse communities in a professional way and not just in a human way is new but I feel I also feel like someone who's been I've been added for long enough in my career. I can call myself expert. What does community in two thousand twenty mean to you right like what does that even look like right now? And could you share some tips on how someone can meaningfully begin to build. Hold their own community or engage and or engage within. I'm GONNA use a just a really super concrete example. When I first landed in New York I was an arts administrator I sought out my fellow arts administrators. It turns out there was a a sort of nascent group of emerging leaders and Arts Administration. That had this desire to choose. Start to gather those of us who were new in the field asking some tough questions and hoping to change the field as we grew and we started as five people we then started organizing events And a lot of people showed up. I mean by the time I left. I think our list serve was like ten thousand people strong Yeah and we were doing events. At the greenspace quarterly. Events is with the podcast and we were really Things were happening and it in L. it's called L.. Nyah continues to exist today that however there was a point it's called emerging leaders. Wait where I aged out of the group and I had to move on. I was no longer emerging however there was a core group of maybe five of us that continued to meet at like eight. Am on Wednesday morning. I long time and I would still call that a community so the fact that we we went from sort of organizers of this multi thousand person community to five people meeting eating for breakfast once a month at eight. Am We were still people who were sort of peer to peer getting together listening to each other help each other advising each other and I think that those that sort of like core core sort of motivation remains true. Yeah so you mentioned your experience at kickstarter and you have over six years of experience there and you also have this incredibly popular skill share class. I'm on the topic of kickstarter and so we minor internet celebrity. Yeah AH NO BIG DEAL. It's amazing and so we want to take this opportunity to get some of that inside scoop from you on what makes a kickstarter start campaign successful and certainly to talk about the idea of like not only do you want to make a project. But you've got to fund it and funding. It means right great having real support in every sense of the word right one of the questions we often get with people saying. I made this great project. I have a product. I have a thing like now. I need to sell it right now. I need to get the funding for it and the you know. I think several of my friends have put something up on kickstarter. And it didn't get funded. Yeah it wasn't successful. And then they're like well wait. How is how are all these other things getting fully funded on day three? We yeah and I had mine up there for thirty or sixty days and I didn't meet my goal and that was not even a stretch goal. That was like my low ball. Yeah you have to set it up for success and not just hope that random Internet strangers will find you want to give you their money. Yeah you talk us through. We lived in uh net strangers on the regular. I mean it does happen. That's one reason kickstarter captured so many people's imaginations because you have those stories of that person who launched project and it went viral very rare For most of us it does require a lot of this stuff. We're talking about community and community building and how we sort of gathered people around us us in these very vulnerable ways. How are we make the choice to show up for each other in vulnerable moments All of that holds true on kickstarter and so And I think you know interesting Lee. A lot of the work that I ended up doing in coaching people through preparing to launch their campaign. You would think that it would be a lot around those sort of the money management logistics all that stuff but the truth is is that I think you know. Currently the success rate is like thirty something percent so that means at sixty something percents are never reaching their funding goal. And that's their low ball goal. Yeah and so it's really helping people understand You know not just what their idea is but how do they tell the story of their idea. In a way that matters people get excited about. How did they start practicing telling that story? How do they find people who will care about that story? And how how do they start building those relationships well before they launched their kickstarter campaign a friend of mine. WHO's a musician and an artist and he started building sort of engagement engagement and camaraderie around his project eighteen months before he launched his kickstarter how that was because he was? He's known he's actually a pretty well known musician he's known for a certain kind of music. Certain kind of art and he wanted to change that narrative and I was like your fans are not gonNa back you if you just launch this random project that they don't understand and I've never heard of so you need to start seeing that and another thing. He did along the way to thinking about how to grow is audience not only how to adjust his community's expectations Asians and get them excited about this new thing he was working on but also how does he have greater. Reach so thinking about strategically like who are some other artists musicians that have great reach. That would would be excited about his work. And how could he start collaborating with them in the lead up to the launch of his campaign and it was sort of all of that very careful. Lauding Work Irk Which I think was great for him too because it actually helped him and this is the other thing? I always tell kickstarter creators because they're always like God that sounds like an enormous amount of work it is but if you're doing it well it's good work. You're you're you're going to release a product of the world. That is better that you're going to be that much more excited about and then it's going to have long-term legs is not going to be a blip on the radar. It's going to be something that people are GonNa want to Take an advocate and carry four in the world for you. Well it just reminds minds me of a a line. One of my teachers want set in college. which is like for you to be an actor? There needs to be an audience. Otherwise you're just a crazy person talking to yourself in a dark room and I think there's a lot of artists. And makers of all stripes were sort of like I just want to do the words. I don't WanNa have to sell it. I don't WanNa have to find the audience that like. That's the business side. I just want to be a creator and I get that instinct. I do but part of this is knowing who your audience is and you know what that relationship is that you have with them. Why are you making this for them? And where does this fit in their life and understanding and building. That audience is just as much a part of your practice as the technique and the skills of doing the work itself. Unfortunately it is not something that they teach people in our at school or design school. What it took me quite some time to realize someone who just started making work? Because because I didn't want to be talking to myself in a dark room alone is is that you know it takes as much work to market something saying by marketing. I mean you know in the most organic sense of that word in just the sense of like sharing finding your audience sharing it with them right trial and error like what is my plan. I it takes time. It takes that really the same amount of creativity in in my experience as it does to create the actual thing right so really I I love you. Know you're step one in this rap Article that you wrote is identify your goals and those can be anything from you know in addition to the financial support growing your community. You Getting Press attracting a buyer publisher meeting new collaborators. And what I love about those questions is they really encourage you to think holistically mystically and think well you know money is really just going to come as a product of all of those other things to what are a couple of common kickstarter stumbling blocks would run into working with creative Stephanie. I know for one. It's it's hard to factor in the financial effects of things like taxes funding. These backer rewards awards in that number that you're asking for they think it's anticipating the launch and how you're gonNA manage that communication strategy That does not come naturally to most people And so even if that's acknowledging that that is not your thing and figuring out a plan for working around that are making that work rewarding for you to hugh it's what you just alluded to which is understanding the difference between The sort of growth rays of your kickstarter campaign And really truly all the expenses answers that come with all the things that you're trying to do. Yeah I think another thing. People don't anticipate is the long tail of communications so the campaign doesn't end thirty days is when you in when you're funded but it ends once you've fulfilled the all the rewards and usually the journey from like getting the money to actually making shipping. The thing is much longer and much more fraud than people plan for someone who has a couple of things that still hasn't been delivered several years back them uncommon common story And what we've seen is that if a creator is set up for that and handles that with Greece is like very communicative throughout that whole process again. General life rules here that it's not really people don't mind people don't mind waiting the two years for the film to come out or whatever. It is like a surprise. Wii Yeah totally Honestly I would say those are the three biggies. It's the communication it's the it's the money and it's it's the planning for the launch or the three that continuously really set people up for for struggle in the New Year is upon us. which resolutions do you plan to conquer and twenty twenty become more mindful or create a healthier lifestyle through diet exercise and of course improved? Sleep the sleep number. 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Master's in Arts Administration so you you really did. From you know educational standpoint learn both sides of that equation the maker side and kind of the business management side of this. Did you plan to be a full time. mm-hmm artist when you were doing your BFA or did you already know that. Kind of the Arts Administration Path was something that was more interesting. Yes so I ever totally backwards story and that my mom made me go to art school. That's the first time on this show needed by this. Yeah yeah well okay so basically my mom is quite talented artists Didn't get to be an artist. She ended up being a computer programmer. which actually she involved a lot of creativity? Mumps you're speaking. My mom is amazing And I'm very lucky to be her daughter but she did do a very classic. Ask Mom thing where she invested. Her failed dreams and me and when I was in high school I wasn't doing very well. I wasn't like an academic like achiever and so my mom was like you should just go to art school. You don't need to be like good at academics to be an art school and I really you know so I ended up applying art schools. Got In What was your medium it will? I ended up the side of my truly easiness of majoring in photography because it was super easy. uh-huh apologies to any photographer's I'm not a yeah. I mean worth noting famous artists photographers. So easy to you you work. I'm still amazed by this. Reverse parenting I'm so into it. I know it's like when I go to the movies with my dad. And he's he's like get more candy because he loves candy and he feels guilty about total reverse parenting. You're going to art school photography. Did you have this end. End Goal of. I've just GonNa get through art school and then studied arts administration or what happened so yeah a couple of things happening in college. Wine is they actually woke up finally It it turns out that public school was my problem. Not School I actually do love making art. I'm never going to be an artist. I would never have been an artist. I do like making staff staffs. Oh I enjoyed it but there was also a level of intellectual rigor that I started experiencing in my in my non art class that I really enjoyed and so I had this sort sort of moment where I actually thought about leaving explored other schools. But I didn't WanNa stay in college any longer than I had to and I would've it would've added like two extra years into my college experience so I said Said you know what I'm just going to power through art school and then figure it out And along the way all my friends were artists and I learned that I'm really good at the business stuff and they are not I also learned that I love spending time with artists. I love being an art spaces. A really just really wanted them to be successful so there could be more. What in the world and so again? Other sign of my laziness one day sitting on a couch The woman I was living with high was applying to Grad School. There was a Grad school catalog on the couch next to me I picked it up. I learned about the administration degree I applied to one school got in. I love this because sometimes as people are like you know I had this master plan all of this work. This was like math out ten years in advance and I think sometimes our listeners are like. That's yeah so your honesty. I talked to a lot of college kids and I always impressed this upon them. Like you know you're the path set life hands. You is not a path. It's just where you happen to be And when you start to make choices along that path and how you make them like the most important thing is that you're making making choices. I feel good to you and so the thing for me is it wasn't until I found myself actually in Grad School in setting administration and understanding that there was this whole Sort of business field related to this world. They really cared about that. I started to actually be super intentional. Moved through my career and I at that from that point on. I've I've been actually quite on point but it was really just kind of lazy and random up until then. I love that realization to that. You're sort of like M. I.. Lisi or am I just just not connecting with visting. That's in front of me. And then when you do stumble on that thing that gets you fired up all of a sudden. You're doing the work you're showing showing up. Oh making the choices and it's not hard because it's exactly what gets you out of bed in the morning. Yeah I mean I went from being like a barely passing anything the student to Dean's list Getting straight a's every semester BS. Oh it really wants a once. I found the thing that was for me and that was a he. That's like a huge huge lesson for me as someone who marches the drummer Is that I really did spend a lot of my early. You know like high school and even the beginning of college is thinking that I was something was wrong with me and it wasn't until I found the thing I cared about and completely made this one eighty because I was applying myself in a different way in a way that was true to to me and who I am and how I like to show up that I was able to be quote unquote successful so inspiring it really is I think recently I had this great great revelation that I hate to sit at a desk like I'm just not made to sit. I hate them. In the only reason I realized why I think that I should have because in school i. I got in trouble for sitting on the floor for standing up at lunch and it was just this like huge lightbulb moment. That was like Oh my God like there's nothing wrong with me me. It just didn't fit that way right like in it and for you to to show that seventy is so inspiring because you're Christina. We so often call like like not the right fit that we often blame it on things like laziness. Sure I mean. I think this is true for anyone who who feels like. They don't fit in into whatever ever circumstances environment school job that they're in or they're like I don't fit so it's probably knee. That's the problem. Yeah Oh yeah reality. -ality I think we have enough data points between the three of us and the however many guests we've had on this show to be like or maybe it's just not the right fit for Yale. Yeah and `and your work. Should you choose to accept it is to to do the Zigzag until you find the place that is the right fit so I left to go to Kakapo for Grad School. I see for a couple years and then I came back to New York and I came Sort of engaged in a job and then Literally Day One crying. I and my cubicle kind of like wow I mean a huge mistake and then but you know I am. I am someone who needs a paycheck and so sort of stuck with eh so I stuck with. It came into three months and it was New Year's eve and I was hanging out you know classic New York City New York New Year's Eve in a moment I'm like in a loft and everyone there's like so fascinating and Blah Blah Blah. New York is amazing. What what am I doing in this cubicle every day and so I gave myself twenty days to figure out some way to make enough money to at the time I was like twenty seven twenty eight years old and I you know I didn't have any debt? I know luckily had no credit card debt. I have no cars. I know mortgage. I know kids I had no nothing really like holding me back from being a little broke for awhile and so I gave myself till the I wanted to give two weeks notice on January fourteen. Because I wanted to like start fresh on February first so I gave myself the beginning ginning of the month to figure out a way. How do I just pay rent and feed myself like the most basic food And I did it and I have to say I spent the next eighteen months doing the most random random weird stuff. I mean volunteered on a festival. I was like an educator at the new museum right now. We're really funny I worked in public schools. I was a researcher. Searcher was a grant editor. I did all this stuff and it was all in service of figuring out you know a New York again. It's amazing how do I make the most of my time here and not just drudge. drudge through some job that makes me cry but also be like what do I want to be. How do I WANNA show up? What is my profession? I had been doing this work. I did a complete complete one eighty in my career. I'd become this accidental professional in like arts education in public school and I was really good at it and I you know I was speaking at conferences. I was co authoring papers. It was happening. I was on this path and I've like I don't want to work in public schools. It's not for me so I you know but eighteen months it's in and then it really. It took a year and a half of being poor and eating homemade tacos. Not Fancy five dollars Until I really found the thing that was is calling to me and was able to reset myself for you to say like I'm just going to have this exploration phase in this fact finding phase. You know I think so much of the time we feel like Oh if I don't have it figured out again going back to what we were just saying I'm behind. Something's wrong with me. I don't know what to do. So just gotTa keep driving forward in this kind of you. No mildly unhappy frustrated state rather than say. I'm GONNA give myself this block of time and I'm going to use it in this specific way in and I'm GonNa the eating by the way great food choice homemade not really pare down. Then you're like building in the structure that I think in the big wash of life can feel really hard to find when you're uncertain and remembering like two data points does not equal align right. I think I struggle with this personally a lot which is like if I make this this choice and I'm going off in that direction. Is that the new future for myself. Like is that forever. And you're like it's just two data points or maybe three three or maybe it's a line for eighteen months and then you're going to zigzag get right. It's not like Oh my gosh I made this choice and now I am often often this other path and I can never change it again right. It's like the seasons. I'm going to do this for a while. We'll learn what I can and it's going to give me the things that I don't know and that will tell me what to do next. Yeah I mean I do this now. In my full time job I write down. What are the five things I want to get done and not get rather rather than getting caught up in the day to day? I'll just write like in the next six months. I want to do these five things and you know every once in a while. Just make sure. I'm checking those five things off. meaning that like I'm not Getting sucked into the the sitting at my desk. Or you know the drudgery of checking my email we hear people talk about this all the time how your your job. Your career becomes almost like the administrative tasks of executing on your job rather than the thing you care about. Actually last year I I. I was at a festival and they had this thing where you could send your self oppose discard one year in the future and I got my my one year later postcard and it was so good because it was like Stephanie Knowing You you've either done a lot in the past year and you're not putting yourself on the back or you're totally upset that you haven't done all things you don't worry you probably worked really hard. It's like such the best note from the bath and what was crazy about. The note was that I actually did do a lot in last year. And I feel like I congratulate myself where it's so I also grew so so much in that I'm a different person than I was a year ago and then I thought that I would have been tat myself. Well Kudos to you. I'm glad on both of those counts a highly recommend setting yourself the postcard nature. Hello Hey babe. I thought she were leasing a car today. Yeah China so slick. You're at a football game. Yeah look used road released the car. It's that APP. 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Our incubator environment is a place is to help them. Bring that to life and we do that in a few different ways. We do that by providing Sort of a very rich community experience so we currently have eighty-three teams or one hundred and seven members. I in residence at New Inc.. We provide professional development and mentor ship. And we make a lot of introductions and provide network opportunities so we do everything we can to support support people from getting from A to B. Whatever their aid to beat is the new museum has one because in Twenty thirteen they had some extra space uh-huh and they were trying to figure out what to do with it and as they are sort of you know traveling around the city one thing that kept coming across resolve these tech incubators this was like a big moment and co working spaces says were in full swing And you know one thing that occurred to them. Is that in a city that graduates more students than any other city. Why is there not a space like this for artists? Also recognizing the fact that technology is very important and then having a moment and there's a in. The museum has long been interested in the intersection section of art and technology and so decided to claim that space and open. Its doors inviting those kinds of people in. This is so exciting. Stephanie's Anthony so I have to say to media idea the concept of incubator I have to admit is is really new and I think I'm so struck by this idea of community because we all know that it's such a crucial part of feeling fulfillment and having real relationships no matter what you're doing and it can feel also difficult to find one for yourself particularly when you're sort of forging your own type of career and you go well. I don't even know if my people apple exist yet right so new INC boasts some impressive statistics from the last five years. Half of your participants have been women have been people of Color. How you been so successful at discovering an attracting diverse creators when the new museum started new and it was very very male And knowing the demographics of New York works city knowing the demographics of the community that we serve in the lower east side it just didn't make sense and so for them. They said all right. We're going to. We're going to fix this since they brought on a full time director of community whose job it was to Incrementally bring us to where we are today which is this five year. Cumulative average of fifty fifty men women people love color and otherwise. Yeah it was intentional and it continues to be intentional. And we continue to have to make sure that we're not just speaking to our friends and the people that we can see six inches in front of our face and the people in our email us and making sure that we're always Reaching reaching and reaching to discover new communities and new people to invite him to the program. So Creator isn't on your radar. How do they get on it? How do you where do you look for kind of the undiscovered covered talent? Yeah so this is actually interesting because the the truth is I'm sure lots of people have experienced with any sort of recruiting cycle. Is that personal. Referrals are are quite powerful. They do usually yelled great results and so we do two approaches one is looking for partnerships or opportunities to Reach new networks. That are not our network so for example there's a really sort of very popular. Latin x media site called Ramez Khloe reached out to them last year to say. Hey Hey we have this incredible incubator. You have a community of people who are making art using technology to do what they do. We serve your population however now as far as we know. We're not really doing anything together. Let's do an event. Let's have a party. Let's meet each other. That's one approach. And that's a very typical approach for us is where we look at just other networks but going back to the personal referral thing. I don't know if you've ever done this as one of my favorite party tricks where you ask someone else to open up their like their twitter feed on their phone Note how different it looks from yours and one thing I've learned through that because I use my twitter quite heavily to discover people is to discover people so I the someone and say like I know the fifteen hundred people I follow. Who are the fifteen hundred fellow? Who's in your feed? Who who's twitter referring for you to check out it's actually quite defective? Same for linked. That's smart yeah hack there especially the twitter feed is a very relevant one great. I remember about a year Rigaud. One of my twitter followers really challenged a lot of the white people that were following her to say. Hey how many black people do you. Yes how how many people are you following And she put out a call and said you know look look who follows me. Look who I follow and pick fifty people bowl and just start following them. It made a material difference in the voices I was hearing the articles that were being surfaced. The kind of opposite opinions on something that I just wasn't seeing any of my other communities and it made me realize how insular sometimes comes a lot of times people I myself are and and how much I have to decide to get out of that. I was just GONNA I say I use twitter in that way with I find around conferences convening festivals looking at WHO's using hashtags who's talking to each other Yeah I'm I'm always in this mission to expand my point of view and I but I've also just asking other people to open up a twitter feed is usually pretty helpful. Well it's so important to challenge the algorithms rhythms and serve up to the algorithm right like different data. So that it cans minute back to you because otherwise you know we've talked about this on the show before Christina. Just the Echo Chamber that exists but so Stephanie. We have obviously a tunnel listeners who are interdisciplinary who may have never heard about incubators. Before are you know how can how can our listeners learn about similar incubators opportunities things like this. Because I think it's really easy to feel like I'm out here by myself and hopefully someone will discover me through someone else's twitter feed or whatever. But how can I I ought to be an active participant in finding these opportunities for myself. Kim Can you straight up apply to new INC or similar opportunities in your experience experience. What would you say to someone who's like I wanna be a part of something like that? Yeah I mean every every program is different we I sure do open call every year It's actually something. We spend quite a lot of energy on. We run it for somewhere between sixty and ninety days. Depending that's the case for New England I think many other programs like our summer invite only summer as he said hard to find for example. If you were to look at a list of incubators in New York City you probably wouldn't see new on it because we're so weird We Love Avenue. I know exactly and I think it's the weird stuff. That's the good stuff so I think the other thing that I would recommend that people do is do an Internet search where you find something you like and then try to monkey bar from that thing to the next thing to the next thing so for example if you find something like new INC look at who they're following on twitter Or on some other social media platform look at who they're re tweeting or sharing to try to figure out who's in their network I've found that I used to in a previous role at kickstarter after I would like to always land in a city and find all the most interesting people in like five minutes and then meet all of them which was an impossible job. And I've I actually found the social media search thing thing I just described via quite effective way to find you know all the underground artist run spaces all of the interesting people making the you know. The most provocative documentary films films all the social entrepreneurs who are changing the landscape of their city. That is how I found them. It was through these sort of New Social Network different platforms. I love that monkey debarring. Yeah from one node to another. Because I think that's such a great point right if you get on the Internet rabbit hole people who are doing this work. No other people are doing this work avenue if maybe you are in the middle of the country and you say well I can't move to New York. I can't go and be part of new INC but let's see who knows. Yeah and maybe we can monkey bar away you to someone in Kansas City or St. Louis Yeah right so I love that idea. I love the idea of writing to your future. Self and Christina. I totally do this really. Yeah so last year when I was going through old old boxes my parents were like cleaning out their storage locker and they were like take your stuff anyway. I found that my elementary school teachers had us do this at the end of each year. So so I had letters from like my fifth grade self who rolaids to my sixth grade sell. I mean that's a lot of insight. I'm sure you had like a ten year old. Will he was really because like the main two themes were like relax more and like. Don't let boys affect your feeling. Some I mean honestly on brand kate existed but they were like so just endearing and and honestly truly inspiring to my current. Sell that I started doing it again so basically. I wrote a handwritten letter to myself last New Year's Eve I won't this New Year's Eve. Yeah I put it in an envelope and wrote it to kate and I don't know where I put it. Hopefully you'll find in time but you know a friend of mine told me about a great. A website called future me dot. Org where you can send your future self in email and the cool thing. Is You have to schedule it at least thirty days in the future and whenever I get one somehow completely forgotten and it always feels like it comes right on time and it's a really nice surprise that is the sweetest thing. Future ME DOT org. I'm going to have to check this out so okay I something sort of similar. I use a platform called ten Q. That is a slightly lately different. Take on it so every year in late September early October I think they time it with Rosh Hashanah Emails you one question today for ten days so ten q and asks you to reflect on the past year or to make predictions for the future one and it's a mix of like personal things and what's going on in the world something that you challenged yourself with a really wide range and then it locks up appear answers in the vault for a year and then the next year right before it starts they send you last year's answers so you can reread them and sort of reflect on what the last year has been like before you do it again. And I've been doing this for almost a decade now. I can go back and reread any of my answers. Answers going back to like two thousand ten. I love that and I also love the idea of curated questions like I want to build this into my handwritten letter to myself. So it's a really interesting way to see sort of structured growth or change over time. You know I also I love Stephanie's point point about laying real groundwork for your kickstarter campaign or anything that you make because you have to know who your audiences and you have to understand your a relationship with them in order to you know build something that will be meaningful to them and that they'll keep showing up for it. It's not just about getting someone I'm going to send you money once you know something that That someone told me in the theater one time at the the audience is really the final ensemble meme rate like That relationship that I know I love when I'm on stage. That's so crucial to the form itself. It's so valuable to think about that in any the art forum in any expression of creativity that it's really about building a real and lasting relationship building a group of people who are invested in you and you in them and you know that really takes thoughtfulness in time. It doesn't happen overnight and that's okay right absolutely so this week. Let's think about building your community and let's start on social media. I loved this suggestion from Stephanie. Pick a handful of people institutions Russians organizations. Whomever you think are interesting and look at who they're following and then follow the ones of you know from their lists that are interesting or crucially you different from the people that you're currently following? I know when I get a note from someone who I don't know as well on social media or maybe somebody don't even know but it's really thoughtful all and it's like hey I just saw that thing that you did and I thought it was cool or whatever it really gives life to a place that can feel like it's the opposite of human interaction action. You can really start to find human connection and inspiration In this space if you approach that way how else are you growing your community. We want to know and we love hearing your updates and questions or honestly. Just send us a note telling us that you're part of this community yes please. Hello Human Ven diagrams. You can reach us on twitter or Instagram at T. L. D. pod or email us at hello at -til the PODCAST DOT Tom. That's right or you can leave us a voicemail at eight three three high T. l. d. n. e. that's eight three. Three four eight five three six three and we'll link to Stephanie. 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0188: MJ Hegar (2/22/2019)

Two Broads Talking Politics

24:25 min | 1 year ago

0188: MJ Hegar (2/22/2019)

"This is Caitlin Clarkson Pereira from Connecticut, and you're listening to a fellow former candidate for elected office, and they forever wonder woman, and they hate her unto God's talking politics. Welcome back to another episode of two broads talking politics as usual. I am one of your co hosts Sophie, and I'm here with your other Kelly. Hey, Kelly blue and today, we are thrilled to be joined by MJ Hager. She was a candidate for Texas's refers congressional district in twenty eight teen and you may recognize her from her viral campaign video doors, welcome day. Hi, thank you so much for having me on. Thank you so much for being here. I as I mentioned, I think a lot of our listeners will know the basics of your story. But could you just sort of introduce yourself? Tell us a little bit about who you are. And and how you ended up running and sort of where that desire to run came from. Sure. Yeah. So I was raised here. My my home district since I was seven in Texas in north Austin area. And I, you know, went off into the military had a twelve year military career that culminated in a rescue helicopter pilot. And my third tore. I was shot down on a medevac mission. And how do we gave enemy and ground combat which actually everybody got out alive? And everything was okay. It was a really dramatic story though. And there was a lot of media attention on it because of the dramatic nature of the story. Thankfully, I was extremely introverted. But I recognized early on that I needed to the platform that I was getting talk about the issues that were important to me. So I used that to talk about things if the SE and veteran, homelessness and military sexual assaults and things like that. And so gradually better at speaking in public and seeing some media, and then the UCLA you came to me and said, you don't think constitutional that women are barred from serving and ground combat, and I was like, well, I starting grandpa. That's you know. And then I realized there was a job that I wanted to apply for after I could no longer fly through this injuries that I couldn't apply for because I was woman, and you know, it started dawning on me that it was. Really hurting the military. So I joined with the to department offense that it was really more of a partnership because they wanted to repeal the policy. Pew. I think it was a unanimous recommendation from the joint chiefs to repeal it. So we've repealed that but through that process as soon as the policy was repealed d- Senator from Alabama at the time was Jeff Sessions, and he said he's going to legislate the policy back in place, so co founded an organization called the combat integration initiative, and we went up to the hill and PC and met with members and senators and staffers, and I learned a lot about how DC works and a lot of it was really gross. There were things sent to me. Like, you're not on Dona list. You don't have any political capital to give my boss. My boss sport, do and I just it struck me that that's how it should work. Meanwhile, I was working for five years the healthcare industry. I after I got out of the military while I was going through all of this. So. Those things like my national security expertise. They gained in the military. My understanding of our unsustainable healthcare model and my experience in DC kind of led me to in twenty AT, and I'm assessing tools toolkit and trying to figure out how I can help a country the most, and I took a look at our, you know, congressman who is do. Nothing Representative who most people don't even recognize his name and wasn't doing anything to help was not there to help me when I made him I'm rooted for him, by the way in the past and I just decided to run against it. I just think that the country was going in the wrong direction. And I I needed to do something about this huger for my boys. They're two and four. So that's what I did. And you know, he won his last minute term, but thirty two points and we lost our race by two point nine. So, you know, the district ready for a change. And you know, the message really resonated with people soon. I have just the question that we ask all Democrats. Now are you running for president? I think I'm supposed to say, I'm currently stuffing all of my options and. No, I am not running for president. There's things I can say with certainty that one of them. So you you did this incredible job in in your campaign, and really close that gap came came really close in a district that a lot of people thought of as a total long shot. What are some of the sort of takeaways for you in terms of you know, maybe your own personal takeaways from that race? But also kind of what you think Democrats in in women in general can can be thinking about. Yeah. You know, I think that I read a story in the Washington Post that really hit the nail on the head. And and it was talking about how there's more that separates the political class from the average American then there is separate to left from the right? And I do think that's the biggest problem. We have a system a political system set up to where you know, I'm not independently wealthy. I had to quit my job to run for congress. 'cause it's a fulltime job to do it. Right. And you know, it nearly hobbled my family financially. So we have this political system that doesn't support mothers that. Doesn't support working people? And that leads to a majority of elected officials being completely out of touch with the actual challenges that every day working American families face, and they're charged with legislating solutions to those to those problems that they've never faced. How do we have people, you know, legislating on affordable healthcare when they never had to worry about whether healthcare comes up, obviously, that's not all of them. I would say the majority of them. So I really think that more emphasis needs to be placed on getting, you know, a group of elected officials that is more reflective of the electorate, both and demographics and and experience. So, you know, my takeaway was that I was so successful because I was genuine. I'm not cushion. I'm not like a used car salesman. Who's going to promise you things over things that would have made it a lot easier on me, if I had said that I wasn't willing to say because when I'm on with my values, and you know, I think if we can seek out those people and be less divisive and just try to support candidates that are really. Fighting for people and not trying to had their resume or their ego. But actually trying to serve their communities, and I think that we would be better service country for that we talked about this a little bit before. But can you tell us? I mean, you you didn't win your race came very close until I imagine there are some things that you feel like sort of came out of your win like what sorts of positive change. Do you see the district as a result of you running for cover? Yeah. You know, I was struck by the fact that in twenty sixty in the twenty sixteen election, I was talking to group of people. It was the primary season. And I was talking to people about the various, you know, options on the ballot on both sides and somebody said to me, well, what state are you from this was in New York City, and I said, Texas, and it's an over the new vote doesn't matter and that really struck me like that's an actual thing that some people think, you know, if you come from a rhetoric area, your vote doesn't matter and Texas in particular is very independent. Minded state. We don't like being told you know, that we're predictable or that we have to think a certain way we like to think of ourselves as different from the country. We are the lonestar state. We are flag. Even with the American flag. And my kids have to say, the Texas pledge of allegiance right after the American believe, it's unique state, you know, and my district assault identifies as one third independent. You would think of as this overwhelming Republican area. But it's not true. I would argue that the people in this area 'cause I've lived here since I was seven and not scratch me too are not affiliated with one party or the other but will vote along the lines of being sickly responsible and relatively socially liberal. It's a who does that describing really a party for us. We pick candidates that we think are in line with that. And I think a lot of the people around here who consider themselves Republicans are Republicans because they're pro-military because if fiscally conservative and they see the Republic. Concurrent Republican elected officials. I don't like to say the Republican party because I think that paints a really broad brushed to all the Republican voters, but they look at their elected officials, and they don't see their values reflected back, but movie, they look at the democratic elected officials, and they're concerned that that's a little, you know, our left from what they were raised with a little, you know, not fiscally conservative enough. So who vote for do you go third party libertarian independent? You know, it's it's it's difficult. You offer Texas a candidate that is reflective of their values that believes in strong small business that weaves in state's rights. There's a place for federal government. And that that you know, we believe that people shouldn't go without access to healthcare. We believe that we want to secure the second amendment. But we also, you know, don't want to have mass shootings become part of our normal everyday life. We believe in background checks and things. Like that. So I I mean, I don't think that most Texans fit nicely into a political bucket and Texans made to be given candidates that are reflective of their values. But some of the things that I think came out of my election that I'm really proud of our that more people will run for office instead of feeling like it's impossible to run and less. You were Republicans. You know, people told me when when we started, but it was impossible. I think more people will vote instead of thinking that your votes don't count more people will pay attention. We had presidential cycle level Votorantim it, and and and boating levels in the mid-term, which is great. And it's a sign for the presidential election coming up. I think people understand how important it is. We've recently talked to Luba Gretchen Shirley from vote, mama. And I I know you've been in touch with organization as well. Can you talk a little bit about running for office with really young kids? I know a lot of a lot of us are thinking about. More about that. Like, maybe I don't have to wait till my kids are grown up to run for office. But I'm sure that it present some challenges. You know, I think it depends on your support system for me. It was the reason I was running. I resented my kids a little bit. I just I couldn't just put my head in the sand. Like I wanted to not paying attention to the world. I had to actually try to do something about climate change because I'm terrified about the world that they're growing up into. And you know, I I think that our kids are the reason we do this not a reason to stop us from doing this certainly the system not set up to support women like me, and you know, certainly system treats women with mall kids, much different than men with small kids. There was somebody who was running for office in Texas who had a baby like during their cycle during the election cycle. And nobody ever asked him when I appeared with him. You know, how how what it's like to have small kids or how is he caring for his kids and things like that? You know, I would not have been able to do it. If I didn't have a great support system. My mom was in my district. My husband is amazing partner and father, and you know, my bra my kids everywhere, and I would think other people that brought their kids instead of them being disrupted. I saw it as an opportunity to remind people why we're fighting. I think we need to normalize kids being around more on both for business and politics. And you know, I have pictures of myself standing in front of a crowd of a hundred people in the microphone holding. Daniel my youngest on my hip, I'm he was five months when I started this campaign. I was still breastfeeding. When I started this campaign, my four year old we were only cautious to protect the children from from any negativity or anything like that. And to only let them see like the good stuff. And I'm super proud of this little story that we were out of meeting where different candidates were giving some speeches, and I got up and spoke and sat down and my three year old was being unusual. Early loud. And so I was kind of like trying to shimmy. And I was like Honey, what do you mean? What can give you gonna you is it should be because you know, and and he said mummy I want the Markelle phone on have something to say offers a little chair started marching up the front. It was a two thing I've ever seen. Of course, I had to scoop them up run back to the back of the room. And I was like, Honey. That's right. You know, you you have to say don't you ever? Let someone silence. You now go with daddy out to the parking lot. And tell him all about it. I was so proud because I felt like, you know, raising these kids to stand up themselves and to speak out when they had something to say. So, you know, it was interesting an interesting it was difficult. But most things that are worth it are going to be difficult. Yeah. I love that. My my kids have I've said this before on here. But my kids have been begging me to run for office. How old are they seven and four two boys? And. Yeah. They they're like what you'd be really good. You'd be better than the president. So, you know. That's so sweet. And my my four year old now is saying that he's going to run for congress Sunday. But there is another side of that coin, you know, after the election, I need it -ly. You know, like I said, I didn't have the financial flexibility to go without a dumpsite meeting started looking for jobs, and he thought he was gonna get near also himself. I started looking for a job. And he said to me once has been called me Mary. So my son knows my name is Mary, but he also knows my life professional name is MD. And so he said to me, but I thought you were done being j I just want you to be my, mommy, and it broke my heart. So there's good moments. And then there's tough moment, you know. But I think most working moms have to face that not to put to a point on it. But you're kind of big deal. You have a bunch of you know, military medals, you have a purple heart. You have all these awards. He wrote a book you wrote a memoir shoot like a girl. I think he were on fresh air. I mean, you're you're. Kind of a big deal. You had this viral video that I'm not exaggerating. When I say every person on my Facebook from every place in the country. So that video. How do you deal with being such a big deal? What is it? What is it like, and sort of how do you reconcile that into your sort of personal life? Well, so I think it's so important when you're representing big ideas that it's really ideal that I'm representing that are big deal. Like when I was finding for open jobs for women getting the words and Newsweek magazine's women of impact and foreign policy magazines leading mobile thinkers on the on the list with Malala, USA, stay and and angle Merckel and the pope, and it was really surreal. An and you know as long as you remember that it's actually not and J Hagar that's on this. It's it's the women that I'm representing a group of women who are fighting for quality that being recognized and I'm happy to forward in represent them. And and you know, what I mean be the face of whatever whatever that is. And you know, I think that was. Talked about this off the air that the candidates who by their own hype are in for a difficult time. You know, at my my kids certain keep me humble, my my husband does is in the nice. I mean, we I recognize out and about, and that's fun and bad because I am still an introvert, you know, and I do have small kids, and we did have a bad experience on Halloween or some Joan Curtis. Supporters were pelting my kids a candy. And you know, so I don't love being recognized. I also joke that I cannot. I can't go get my breakfast, Mike Ajaz anymore 'cause I work from home. So he's a bit of freedom. But you know. Yeah. I think that the good thing is that when the when the checkout, you know, girl at HEB says, oh my God. You're today. I loved your video. It's an opportunity for me to say. Oh, great. Well, thank you for the support. You know, get involved get involved with the campaign or or, hey, I'm on the board of the advocacy project, and it's straight. It's just a chance to get. People involved. I think that people don't get involved in communities enough sometimes because they don't think one person can make a big difference. And it's it's just it's true that you can what I'm doing right now, if you don't mind talking about that per minute on the campaign trail, there were a couple of things that I countered that just hit me up at night. Probably the the biggest one is is the migrant family separation at the border, but another big one was pharmaceutical pricing. You know, I had people stop me on the campaign trail in tears, literally multiple times, I think four right now, I'm sure there were more that would say things like my wife has a terminal diagnosis, but she has stopped taking her meds and accepted two months to live instead of six because she doesn't want to bankrupt the family on her way out or you know, it's just it was heartbreaking. And and it's it's a topic that gets some attention. It was in the state of the union, but it's not like a sexy and popular topic of some of the other political popping out there. So when I finish the campaign, and I was looking for a little. The wake up in the morning with that feeling that I'm fighting for people. I chose to work with a company called hippo that people who are listening can more and more about at Hello hippo dot com. And it sounds too good to be true. But it saving people up to ninety seven percent on their prescriptions for free. It's a free. You don't have to like sign up with his long, you know, like account creation or anything like that. You just text. Hello to hippo, which is four four seven seven six. They send you a card show that card your promises and you save a ton of money on prescription. So I'm really excited to be still fighting for people even though I'm not running for office. So that's a segue. Do you think you might run for office again some day? You don't have to tell us for sure. But do you think the possibilities open? I know I found like a commercial. But I'm just it's mission in life to tell people about this possible because people leave their prescriptions at the pharmacy. It's hard to say that I'll go run for something when I feel so filled by what I'm doing now. And I do feel like I'm helping a lot of people. But, you know, also recognize that I have some assets like, name, recognition and fundraising. You know structure that's already set up and a lot of experience that's gonna make me much better candidate than I was more of a beginner. And you know, I have to look at what's best for my family, and then for obviously, and then second I have local at my tool kit again and see what's the best way. I can serve my community right now is trying to help people on the prescriptions someday. Maybe even the cycle. It might be. Okay. I've done everything. I can't spread the word on that. Now. Maybe all. Run for something. So I mean, I'm not really closing the door on any options right now. But I would say that a lot of things will have to fall into place a lot of Domino's we'd have to police perfectly for me to to run for office again. And you know, there's there's different offices than I'm I'm considering so me, and my team are kind of you know, bouncing ideas around and thinking about the pros and cons. And where do we see the urgency where we see where do we fire where do we run with the bucket? You know? He mentioned that you are an introvert. And I would say the number one reason I hear people tell me for why they can't run for office is because they're introverted. And this includes me, do you have any tips for introverts who might want to run for office one day. Yeah. Don't believe what people say about introverts. And also I faced a lot don't let people get away with bullying you into. You're not an introvert. What can how? Well, you know. How articulate you are look, you speech speeches, thousands of people don't let people tell you who you are. I am incredibly like extremely on the Myers, Briggs. I'm twenty six introvert and zero extrovert which is unusual. Usually you fall somewhere on the scale. And all that means is has nothing to do with what you're good and everything to do with what you're comfortable with. I mean, how you recharge your battery. I read a book called quiet, and I can't remember the author, but it was really great. And in and helped me learn about myself, and there's so many people that Robin Williams, and Al Gore, and you know, a lot of people out there that are. Are really really really introverted. And understanding what challenges come with that. For example. The book quiet was talking about. How Al Gore was so surprised that people didn't just accept the climate change science because as an introvert he just likes processed data doesn't really think about, you know, I don't know like the personal side of it as much understanding your challenges, and how you need to craft your communication style is important. But I was even born Porter's understanding your strength. And there is strength. That comes with being an introvert. You know, I know that if I'm speaking it's not because I want attention because I actually hated when all eyes are on the air when cameras are that needs. So I know that if I am speaking is because I m you know, convinced that I am trying to make a difference on something. So, you know, my food just be to read that book for sure, but to also just very mindful of your, you know, challenges that your strength, so many people spend so much time trying to overcome their challenges and not really you. Their strength and practice. I would say when I started off. This is probably this is a good example of why I'm not a politician because most people wouldn't talk about stuff like this. That's usually the red flag where my campaign manager at the back of the room stench waiting his hands and going, no. When I first started in two thousand nine after the shootdown, and I started media about the gun, and such or if I had to give speech, I literally had to drink like a run diet coke before England, I was terrified. And then when the lawsuit was filed I had to go on MSNBC with Alex Witt and the car came for me at four in the morning for six AM hit time, and my poor husband is like in the back of the towncar mixing a vodka or huge for me. And I was like this is ridiculous. I have to be able to do this. Taking a drink of something. I'm certainly not a drinker. So I would you know, I had to get to a point where that you know, what the true. And so practicing getting in front of people on talking, you know, being an introvert is different than having fear, public speaking. But definitely practicing joining toes masters or just you know, finding excuse to get in front of people to seek is is important. Thank you so much for talking to us today. I think we should start a series called conversations with kick ass women because you know. I know any all also. Thank you so much. Really? Appreciate all having me on and helping me spread the word. Yeah. Yes. -solutely, and we'll put links up for hippo and linked to your book as well. So so people can check that out. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thanks for listening to to broads talking politics. Are theme song is called. Are. You listening off of the album elephants shaped trees by the band, immune ary, and we're using it with permission of the band our logo and other original artwork is by Matthew Westland and was created for use. But this podcast.

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PMS 2.0 119 - Mike Pereira, LaVar Arrington, & Other Thoughts From A Crazy Week

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PMS 2.0 119 - Mike Pereira, LaVar Arrington, & Other Thoughts From A Crazy Week

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I think everybody would agree I it's just a point so you've got one standard and that's the way the officials look at it on the field in real time and then you have a second standard which something in in this pass interference rule and we've adopted we've adopted a second standard and that's the real problem with the rule here in replay we're trying to find something as big as Roby Coleman or whatever his name is from last year in the championship team that big and so behind the scenes of the seats is just absolutely is there such a dumb life reliving thankful you're following along we got more great shit from this week but also they can't figure it out at all And and I I agree with you it's a it's a failure and to me it's just a question of cow Williams in the first hour was not happy about it you're not happy about it in second hour I will make this up to you I promise and I'm so thankful you joined us this morning because the world has but it has every coach you know going crazy every fan going crazy my favorite group of fifty drunks in a bar that is how replay looks at it and they look at it by saying well yeah it's past interference but it doesn't rise to the level of what we're looking for even after you screwed me and that Celebrity Golf tournaments thing away I couldn't have finished in the top five on that you manipulated the outcome I didn't get it gotta start over again I got out of bed took her shower comb my hair put my Ford the brand t shirt on so I could go on facetime and you can see it role has come into play for review and they think it's a lot harder than people think and they knew that discussions and disagreements we're gonNA come about do you agree with that or is this replay to me had no business getting into that but it did and so we look at plays and say well he took two steps but he had it long enough not if but when they change it and and to me the changes rather simple you get rid of this clear and obvious has to change whether it's now coming out of this meeting or whether it's week seventeen or the playoffs but I think rich mccade that a subjective rule has come into play into replay my God that's that's the way we set it up in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine it was all the be based on facts grounds lines planes getting into the playoffs it's going to really crash if it happens in the Super Bowl and you know a a play happens and at the pass interference planet just Kinda politely said we're just GONNA wait a couple more weeks to know what we already know that it's not working last year the helmet rule was the GM's I think they understand that because they they are and somebody said they're like a pilot at thirty thousand feet you know try and this rule that has been added in expectations have been set that it's going to get corrected and it just hasn't happened rich McKay came out just yesterday and said that this is the first time a subjective eh fly a plane without an abrogation system well that plane's going to crash if this happens in nineteen and and and it's it keeps team for crashed off the board this year in the first three weeks we had one hundred seventy nine holding calls because there was a point of emphasis backside holding it was ridiculous how many he's giving no answers there's no accountability I would assume behind closed doors oh real conversations are happening to hopefully fix this problem that is taking over the pop culture lexicon bucks it did it in a dish inal twenty percent off your first monthly box when he signed up bed box of awesome dot com and enter code heartland at checkout that's ooh Julia agreed use it is or isn't and then every coach would understand that I think then the fans and the owners this call and then all of a sudden they said now you don't want this don't want this hey let's not overreact to this and boom the numbers fell off the cliff in week three and then yeah well that's what that's pretty good too by the way I think look we gotta look back at history just in this short two year period when they even though we're GONNA we're looking at slow motion we're going to check not the first time that we've gotten involved with subjectivity but what it is you know to me we've taken some holding calls we had with the officials doing what they were told to do by the way and then they have a conference call with the referees and the committee was involved and boom now most of his body weight on top the quarterback and we had all these calls and after we do conference call again and say we got a redirect this point of emphasis and the number sound like excuses from Richmond K for Berta River on making mistakes and that review booth. Well I don't believe that the statement is true I mean for one thing you can't say that this is the first time and agreed GIS and you look at it in replay just like you would look at it as an official it either is or isn't it doesn't have to be I have plucked the best refs out of the NFL now granted no fault of yours or no fault of Blandino or John It doesn't get reviewed and the League's as well yeah we knew it was pass interference but it didn't rise to that level it's it's it's GonNa Change that they're talking about that now can they make this adjustment It was a rule change so could could the commissioner to step in and say we see the standard chains beginning on Thursday night in Denver where I'll be on Fox Thursday night football okay and for the plugs it's what is happening in this week this meeting where Burqa River on talking to the competition committee what is happening behind closed doors there's give a little peek inside of that because outside I don't know for sure I'm anxious to find out what the real conversation is I mean they're not liable to tell me but the the you will be able to figure it out and entertainment standpoint well I mean I think the answer is rather simple I mean they they need to be thought of that they have more value than what they have now I mean they just signed as a TV analyst for being referee expert is a lot better than being an actual ref is there any way that the NFL. I don't think there's a lot of good refs out there you don't have to say I'll say it then just last year if you remember Clay Matthews like come on every time he like took a breath on a quarterback they call them for landing with I would assume for a much better life and to be a voice of the game how does the NFL in the future keep the good refs on the field as opposed to going and making the game better stories or jeans territor all elite referees have all been plucked by TV networks. I I would assume I don't WANNA get into your financials but I would assume life did a a rule for the playoffs which he did with the clock several years ago so there's powers to change things there but I don't what I used to work they're gonNA try to cut my salary for God's sake but they just they never have been valued and and and I get it because it's a negative nothing the topic of discussion I mean in early the rest were just flow thrown flags and everything I mean it was mass chaos basically and then this meeting happened in everything changed from that we've had them last three weeks less holding calls when we had even last year so adjustments can be made and and I'm sure eh you're gonNA take it and then I thought that's a stupid question I'm going into my option you're with Fox and for only ten percent of positive comes from officiating they don't generate any money with the league they're a huge expense to a league by the way that values its money and and how it's GonNa be interesting now you've become an incredible TV guy which Matt Hasselbeck and I have had conversations at length about this I think the TV networks coward on the heard I said you know if somebody comes to you and offers you more money and the the work is only ten percent of what you do in your other in your job you're GonNa have more first second or third year referees than you have referees have been doing it for fifteen to twenty years so it's it's it's Super Bowl until you've worked five full years this is a tough job and now you have seven out of seventeen referees either in their first year or second and Oh this stretch of subjectivity has pretty much every coach flummoxed like to use that word by way I kind of intellectual hey hey you know in the best interest of the game we're going to pull this rule theoretically he could has it happened not really he's added officiating is set up right now is working and I don't think bandaids do anything but he'll cut I think the League and I wish they will takes a while to adjust to the speed and the you know the technical aspects of becoming a referee it that's why for example you can't work brought this illegal use of the helmet thing on you know on as a new rule in the first two weeks of the preseason everytime guy made a tackle it was called and then they had a conference by the way I fucking chewed out for that on twitter some lady wants to Stanford who's obviously much smarter indefinitely wealthier than I Tories and the Perry's leaving you know I can't ever remember and I'm sure historically other than the first two years of existence of the national they make the clubs so it's the values the values not there but when you when you have this like you say I mean you just look at the fact of in a ten great leadership when you have somebody coming in constantly that has a new style a new thought and then of course you have the McCauley's and the stairs collective bargaining agreement with the officials in and the officials seem to be happy with that but when somebody and I said this mistakenly on with Collin headed as it is to be a good rough it takes a lot you gotta be good politician you have to be a good communicator you have to be able to think fast you have to do a lot of things in a lot of the good refs are going to TV networks would and and I wish they would step back and say okay it's time to essentially blow it up and figure out what we can do to make it in your period they've had four different heads of officiating I mean they went for me Carl Johnson the Dean Blandino now our river on that's not that's not you're a representation of wrath so you say I think I'll break the river on his Dunkin his job I think a lot of people on the field have stunk at their jobs but I don't think we're giving a lot of people as much no football league where you have seven referees seven that are either in their first or second year I mean it it takes it now you have a new collective bargaining agreement which has offered a retirement incentive benefit a one year benefit to those that have twenty years a it's an issue and I think that you know I've said this many times before I don't think the structure of the way the better and think outside the box could that be the eighth official Sky Judge in my opinion yes could it be making all seventeen for more in the league so we could seem more referees leave and and then create you know that that young paradigm where freeze full time during the season where they meet at an officiating institute right after their games and they do everything together Evalu- you wait everything together proposed rule changes do all these things together and then they go out on Saturdays to their crews with consistent messages about that but with the new CBA that's been signed I don't know if that could even happen at this point but again it's it's out of the box thing with the referees but they'll improve so much quicker if they were all together and that would take financial commitment there's no question in contact limited contact and and not real speed I I've never I don't I don't see the value there I do see it for the referees though but it's a different game and if you had an institute where they had to go to you know for the seventeen weeks or twenty one weeks county in preseason that they had to go to every week and work together they would have improved at a rate four times faster than they approve that any talks about you know they're gonNA hire a new training development vice president which is good and they have ad hoc yearly you know in a part time basis working there's great value I mean I don't think there's great value and making everybody fulltime but I do think there is in the referees look at you know they can go outside and work on cars hit with clear is you know when you're doing it there's so much to do your is your I don't go from left to right they just go straight ahead see the light of day well I think you're incredible in your little dream world I mean you did screw yourself in negotiations by saying they can cut your salary in half and I say this I think the officials top to bottom the entire group is better but I think the officiating is not and and I think there's a lot with what I really thought when people ask me the question is officiating better the same or worse back when you weren't official and And when I ran the program first year guys in in my issue with it is is you know the guy maybe yeah he did some maybe did some refereeing in college most of them now have taking that I think they need to do and you know they need to use who they need to consult with quite frankly are those that have done this before and and you know they're they're honestly the referees or your brightest guys and they make good choices on who's going to be the referee but if you if you take the US even you think that most of these referee stink is that accurate no I here's what I say here's what I say I finally I had to come to grips rose did you know that in Nascar the pit crews they just plucked college athletes that don't make it to the NFL college football players that don't make it to the NFL NASCAR pit crews plucked then you don't you don't see sometimes the big picture but I live in a dream world now I guess in and I I'm not sure that that will ever see may improve now when they're basically just put out there and they have a limited number of training now that a limited amount of training the new CBA tough but nobody you gotta think outside the box here I agree I propose is a fantasy world and you kinda just went through it all I them they have them come live in an area they have a weight room they have a chef they have filmed they have everything like that that could very easily happen with officiating could it not well I I don't think that that's the the Perez and that's the blame Dino's and and that's the those are those are the people who have been through it but now they see eh do actual perfect simulations if you're talking about NASCAR pit crews you can't you can't get going to practices during the week where there vitiate and be held accountable for what he does hell this this old communication system they're making decisions for them put the adjuster gene has gotten so big in a lot of the areas that I think it's taken away some of your ability to basically take control of the game and and overall ah very dumb Mike I mean you watch pawn stars everybody knows you can't give it away stuff like that publicly I gave you I gave you like ten of my best signed for just those seven guys talking together and so when a guy calls a pass interference penalty thirty yards downfield referee doesn't have to run all the way down bridge I apologize for interrupting this trade of awesome from this past week but I have to tell you that dodgy the trimmer that won't nick or snag your nuts ever completely nick proof somehow my life completely change for the better whatever your man scaping sometimes you can have that worry that what little sip of the fingers of the hand there with that razor aww reasoning including all this damn technology that we're using now both in video and in communication I think it's hurt the ability of the official too I think it's hurt officiating as a as a whole well Mike Prayer I can't thank you enough you just learn me a lot I feel like every time I talked to you I'm entertained in for you couldn't even get me on facetime well listen if I was to build the studio again which I did I built studio we are in it's right next to K. One oh two point has somehow defied science I shave technology is something you need in your life the lombards point is also one hundred percents waterproof and shocker shots ever and I get screwed out of the prizemoney for that that was a damn for the brand black T. shirt which I was wearing to show today New York is on that system they've expanded what they can do in terms of spot fouls and penalty enforcements downs you know the safety net proficient assistant precision tools for your family Joel's your balls will thank you get twenty percent off and free shipping and a free remake the announcement I'm Bruce Arians gets upset and he says what did you call on the other side of the field and I used to have to say well the next time out I'll go inside the game or outside the three play guy right they've got a they got a system that's called the O. Two O- official to official I was for the system because it was designed landscapes dot com it's a mind blower thing honestly like whenever you do it you're gonna be like Yep he was right failed to get the number you could just click on your your microphone until the Referee Pass interference on number twenty three ball at the twenty one yard line first and ten he's on a facetime and there are two poodles outside caused three poodles going to town in the open area they're good for you lavar clipper whatever you use you do one little nick or what little cut you think you're going to bleed out sometimes likely Fox sports is lucky to have you ladies and Gentlemen Mike Pereira thank you might see a man he was incredible right there oh ask him now you clicked on your thing and say what you have the guys that I had holding at the top of the route and he tells areas okay you're done great communication but now the replay guy is on that system Alad settled abode. I would make sure that it was able to have facetime because I wished the world can see your beautiful face I can't thank you enough for joining joining us and can I can I say that's just crazy manscaping dot com code hats back to we will now be joined by a man travel back with the Code Pat at Manscaping Dot Com that's man S. C. A. P. Dot Com Code Pat at he was a three time pro bowler two time all pro all American Buckets Award Winner Bednarik Award winner you know him as soon as who is maybe the greatest physical specimen to ever walk this earth traded something called the all mammal team I never made it I wish I would pain be too much too delicate area that's why whatever I found out about landscapes lawn mower two point zero with skid safe your flag from the forty two to the thirty eight that's the spot of the foul we had to do that ourselves back in those doing it hold on hold on chiefs game the guy goes to his ears that somebody from you know I ended up having a kid and and I guess the one thing that really hit me was my hair was making me feel like Sampson every different debates as to why but when you look at all the coaches that have come they're all the players all the names that have people to misinterpret I've I've said for years it's Dan Snyder all right but I don't want people to Misinterpret Ziam Ladies and Gentlemen Lavar Arrington yeah pretty armed in most impressive are most important impressed with everything that you do I hope you get a new big contract that gives you a big check that you have to take on big bank although it doesn't sound like that's associated with them the GM's a you name it there's nothing left back like what else can you look at ranch is it's just it's just that there has to be a learning curve that eventually is realized if Nicholas man it's ridiculous but I enjoyed it it's fun it keeps us all connected you know what I mean naked I cut my hair pat because in his prime at Washington or to redskins right that wouldn't even be enough to make that a better team that's a big deal oh all mammal on these little dog out here so crazy we'll look at this look at what's going on in my community my whole body was it the first time try to hear it was just incredible though fear of cots just the if the the culture of that place is is going to improve and and be a culture of of winning you know there's been so many he's Dan Snyder the providence when everybody says redskins are this terrible organization what are your thoughts on hold thanks for being inside of it listen I don't want or or I was going to be like really having like nineteen kids running around suspect that good looking man it's him being that it's a horrible place it's not a horrible place it's not a horrible franchises a historical and say you know what it might be this coach it might be disc layer like a maginness right if pat McAfee went and played something that he had going on medically it just seems to be the same stuff to rg three fiasco you you look at wait wait the Lavar perfect knock it out quickly right now the perfect package two point oh kit that features the laudner two point Oh with skit safety is to organize sports oh I feel like it's a it's a necessary evil and some ways that to add them obvious they say what happens in the power ups but you gotTa have very on top of a year that has been riddled with terrible 'cause what are your take on the whole thing and how do you fix it you think reps have always been a nemesis I say it in a way like think about Trent Williams right that's your best maybe the best offense alarming since the hogs to pay play for your your organization he doesn't want yeah and so I was I was getting carried away with the whole idea of the strength was in my hair and so I had to do I had to make a change without dreads let's talk about the Washington redskins a team that you know a little bit about they'll sumed these are they seem to be in such an interesting situation over there safety comes first and and so holding calls different so so it was always the defense got all these these calls right referees that to manage the game I always thought referees were supposed to manage the game's not not shave the wide you cut the threats that was such a signature look for you for so long I think it was all the way down to your ankles at one point the river and and and and I'm about to go a good one at that basically sealed the game there are a couple of times form tried his best in a phantom handsome face call happened but this is just the fighting a battle where participation and you know health concerns surrounding the game coacher dot and it's a horrible organization I'm just saying that the culture of it needs to change Brazilians dumbed down even WanNa be there he doesn't WanNa come back he feels like you know he's been abandoned he feels and I don't want to speak for him but you know he feels like he was misdiagnosed with with in the MOM's living room they're trying to make it seem like this is a game that is being monitored and being officiated in a way where players dictate them and I think that's where I think that's where refereeing has has kind of gotten to now they dictate the games and or concerns and more backlash and fallout from watching equality product. That's interesting to me that you make that Capitol Hill reference because Ah baby for the brand pretty good little show there for you you liked that I liked Manda Mammal deal you know them all day baby I do I address it through on the failed trying to address it through two referees and I don't I don't I think it's it's failing I think it's creating they're trying to legislate the game on the field the same way they're trying to legislated on Capitol Hail or in there would probably be total anarchy I probably dropped kicking played and in between their legs Errington all yeah look at so many different things that have happened within that organization you can't say that it's a good I was like I don't need you thinking for me okay if I want to put the seat belt on put to Sea Peron it does feel as if in the NFL where they're like we're going to think for the players safety for but now you're seeing more offensive calls coming coming down the pipe I just think that they're they're facing a a player safety crisis and they're trying take on next these are all things you've thought of I feel as if you don't have to make the seat belt rule where you have to wear your seatbelt come I can make that decision Berkman read where C and and that's I don't think that's good for the game and it's definitely like your shirt said it's not good for the brain a greater hiding a lot of kids need all the lanes about about put one in my crib at one point John but my kids are like real destructive bots so right but don't dictate whether the ball gets a strike or not are you a good bowler or no I you do I thought they were there to manage the game they're like art rails right you're not dictating whether whether you get a strike or not we're going to start making calls for them whether they want him not it does feel like they're kind of overreaching what they originally were intend to do I think they're governing About think about think about that and so for me I just when I say it's the owner the game they're not managing the game they're running the gay and that's that's that's not what am I add my assumption my estimation I don't think that that's what referees were intended underappreciated freak athlete of all time never gets brought up the Var Arrington name never gets brought up when they're talking about best athletes of all time and I would say as a pure we're setting up a we're sitting up in the nose bleeds Iro never forget it when I saw the human I thought was human fly over they're they're better ways to do this and I only see it now because I've been out for a long time I know what our river on's going through it's now I was pretty good man not third not anymore I haven't I I told you man I was making too many kids dishes stuffing you know I it's it's hard man it's not easy to find a way to survive though yeah I think you should as a host of a show that is being heard by humans probably in their cars you should wear your seatbelt Emmanuel you are I was at the game where you jumped over the entire line I was at the game I just happened to go with one of my friends from Blah who's a penn state alum that's a lifetime ago I don't even really I'll really stunt off of of being viewed that way anymore my whole thing is like what you're doing I Uh-huh to go bowling by the entire entire bowling alley this group intact immediately then you get the NFL same old thing then we start reading stats attend eight hundred you could want the North Carolina to play basketball you just I've had to try to figure out a way to live like a good productive life with kids that ruin break everything break it break all your you don't have to say I'll say okay speaking of dumb dumbs these rafts men are still in the show last night a pass rusher trey flowers everything was a kids game to you about like an I don't think he could talked about enough what stat am I missing that that I didn't mention they're they're not there's no missing stats just make sure the ball doesn't go in the gutter bumper races out of shape of bumpers right cheapest outer keep us out of the gutter it did it did it ought to deal with let's talk about you being the most needed that's pretty cool man that's that's pretty cool I I don't know it's like itself but when they made a one shield mad when they made my name when they made that law I felt like being smart was the reason why so athletic I always say his mind over matter anytime that I wanted to do something you know so funny I I used to dunk the I want to be respected for my mind and the opinions and the thoughts that I bring to the table to create stimulating conversations but always yeah people tend to think when you not just put a post on my g talking about retired the word hater you know find a different word than hater it's two thousand formulate a thought and if your thought ends with hater to me that's almost like using profanity unnecessarily right it's a lack of dictation it's a it's a lack of showing you know a grasp of what it is that's being discussed now I'm not saying in two thousand twenty use a different word other than hater I just always feel light when you come up with things that are thought provoking some people on a fall in line and agree some people are not going to agree some people are GonNa be indifferent but when you're looking at it you still take the time to actually it is there's so much going on in the world that if you actually have something interesting enough about you where somebody forms an opinion about you then sad to to actually think that you could stimulate enough emotion and thought through something that was a created you know with where my wrist was on the top of the white banking square that is a claim to fame so I was pretty athletic man I'd say thanks in your brain Kinda Kinda interesting to me and to be able to do it over and over again is is people I use it purely let you know like I'm showing my teeth like you know like be afraid of me right now that's why I'm cursing well I wanNa let you know I hope I don't make occur did a few things but it doesn't it if I can't see the next generation of guys learn from me and do it the best very very upset so when that curse word comes out if usually very quick it's very sharp and then it's done you know I don't use it for educational purposes you've done something pretty phenomenal and that's that's I kinda I enjoy that you know if you can make somebody laugh or you can make somebody mad or you can make somebody I don't curse because I have cars I am a cursor but I just feel like when I curse I really want you to know that I am oppressed with your brain and you could this is not a shot at anybody I'm a different personality I think it's because we're both from Pittsburgh you you and I could keep up with each other you know what I mean and Bentsen me that I could actually get high enough to dunk with my elbows Nah never pull it all but I did I actually did get high enough on the backboard that perogie juice that big bird it develops your your brain cells a little quicker. CBS Like what are you still doing work with the NFL network I used to see you on tv all the time now I don't get to watch television as much in every time I got to share the screen with you I was always so that's the reason why we're we are able to to buy on the same level Bro and that's you know that's that's just what it is man sometimes sometimes they're people stimulating debate on TV as well or do you enjoy the whole process or or you are do because you know think about it can you know hugging and telling your kid you love 'em and stuff like that but I think it was pro ghee juice mixed with a Washington down with icy light I hope I can have you back on the show again we have to get to a break he's gentlemen incredibly intelligent freak athlete and not a hater of the delete since appearing on our podcast two Fridays ago they've been undefeated they performed very well I like Joe flacco let's say Joe Flacco gets becoming an MVP candidate do you put Cam Newton back in the game in potentially ruin the little Mojo they've got going since he's left with his liz frank injury he's back he's yeah some things you just have to be from there to understand it do you enjoy working on the TV or do you think they you said you liked to stimulate conversation has that Cam Newton would be picked up by at least ten teams in the NFL if he was put on the trading block with talent continue to dominate in Christian McCaffrey then it it really was offer night anyway but I appreciate I appreciate proper so I mean that's always nice when somebody shows you a little love on which did no pre tripped Cam Newton's happiness from him in that super bowl if he was able to go out there and do well a lot of quarterbacks who can do well in Denver we'll get welcome back like the heroes haters Lavar

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Tall Stories 141: The Braille Institute of America

Monocle 24: The Urbanist

05:50 min | 1 year ago

Tall Stories 141: The Braille Institute of America

"The. I'm enter talking. You're listening to tool stories on monocle twenty four brought by the team behind the urban est. The show all about the cities we live in this week Markle's Thomas Lewis takes us on a tour of the braille institute of America building in Los Angeles brutalises complex, designed by the architects, Arthur Yohannan and said Joe Miranda, which when opened in nineteen seventy four was at the cutting edge design for those who cannot see. When the William Pereira and associates architecture practice in Chicago, one of the commission to build the new cutting edge headquarters for the braille institute of America in the nineteen sixties the brief asked of the architects to imagine it building designed for those who had never fully see it in that spirit. The lead architects the project off a Yohannan set. Your Rhonda spent two weeks splintering institutes existing headquarters on Vermont avenue in Los Angeles. Blindfolded? The results which still operates as the institute's headquarters today is a squat at imposing two storey complex of light Brown. Poured concrete the large angular cap of the second story also forms the building's roof it supported by squats nearly triangular struts stylized interpretations, perhaps of the sinews that attached the cornea to the rest of the eye. But in its appearance of she await the second story, which overhangs the lower portion of the building also represents a cap of darkness. If oh king the loss of light and sight for those who are visually impaired, the cap, however is poked by thin Linnea windows, suggesting as the institute's founder advocated, the loss of sight shouldn't Kwait living life in the dark. The architects Monday Tuesday dictatorship in large part by the principles of the institute itself, which was established in nineteen nineteen as an education and training facility for the visually impaired. It was established by Robert J at concern a cowboy from Montana who in an accident with a shotgun in nineteen twelve lost his sight completely at concerns philosophy was that the blind and partially sighted should be challenged by their environments in order to quip them for the rigors and realities of daily life designing spaces that were easier to traverse would dot concern contended serve those with impaired vision on oh site tall few favours. Once they were out in the world. It was a philosophy forged from experience at concern. Upon going blind taught himself to read braille and began the task of transcribing the entirety of his personal library with little guidance and little direction. The combination of his work was a twelve volume. Braille translation of the King James bible in this vein. The architects of the new headquarters in Los Angeles designed to building that from the insight was meant to challenge as much as instruct there are no elevators in and the stack aces were built to slightly steeper angle the doors to classrooms and the other instructional areas of the building were painted in bright colors that contrasted with the cover of the walls. According to the instance, research only around ten percent of those with visual impairments are completely blind doors that were off limits for students of the institute to a painted the same colors the walls. At the buildings. Nucleus is a glass top retender which allows daylight to stream in from above into the belly of the building designed to echo light streaming into the people of an eye. It circular in -veloping wall was clad in Mozambique, the textures of which conceive to be touched and who's bright colors were meant to offer visual guidance to those inside the most sake, which depict stylized figures, sending from the despair of darkness towards the light above was designed by Hans Schaaf an artist who following previous incarnation as an interrogative for the Luftwaffe became California's missed celebrated mosaic assist. Whereas the interior of the braille institute of America may have become a little tired in the forty five years or so since it opened this brutalises landmarks still holds true to the noble promise in which it was conceived that in the dark, there may still be light. You've been listening to tool stories a monocle twenty four production. Thanks to Thomas seduce for today's episode remembered shooting every Thursday for the full thirty minute edition of the imagine talk. Goodbye. Thank you for listening. Explore the original brilliant hardback volume from the writers and editors behind monocle magazine, the monocle guide to cozy homes is available at a very special price exclusively for urban listeners to buy the book at half price just twenty pounds plus postage. Visit monocled dot com slash urbanism. Book offer that's monocle dot com forward slash urban est. Book offer monocle keeping an eye and an ear on the world.

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CONSPIRACY: The Lead Masks Case

Supernatural with Ashley Flowers

32:04 min | 6 months ago

CONSPIRACY: The Lead Masks Case

"When a murder goes unsolved it's frustrating. There's no justice and no closure for the victim's family and loved ones and there's always the slight chance that the killer might strike again but let's be real no matter how much md feel for the victim. Often you hear these cases you hear these stories and just go on about your day without it truly affecting your life rarely is a case so bizarre so unexplainable that it throws your own reality into question. Take this one for example on August twentieth. Nineteen sixty six eighteen year. Old Georgie Dacosta. Alvarez was flying a kite with his friends on a hill near Rio de Janeiro Brazil. It was a sunny afternoon. And he was enjoying the fresh air outside of the city and then he saw something up the hill to dead bodies lying in the grass. Both were dressed in formal suits and identical raincoats. They were laying peacefully with their hands behind their heads. Almost like they'd lay down for a nap and just never woke up and on the ground and next to them were two masks about the size and shape of sunglasses but made out of solid lead. The whole scene was so surreal. It's and Georgie. Running down the hill tear but things would only get weirder from there by the end of the week. Police weren't even sure if the killer they were looking for was human. This is supernatural apar- cast original and I'm your host Ashley Flowers. Some of you might know me from my show. Crime Junkie in this show. I'm teaming up with podcast to die. Even deeper into the unexplained paranormal events are fascinating to me because they force you to reconsider everything. You thought you knew a lot of the time. Maybe even most of the time supernatural claims can be debunked but sometimes even skeptics have to admit that the facts of a case. Don't add up to a solution to get to the truth. You have to look beyond what we know Israel and consider what else could be even if it sounds irrational or hard to believe on this show we're going to take some of the strange occurrences from around the world. Put them under a microscope and try to figure out what really happened this week. Were starting with a pair of unexplained deaths in Brazil. Known as the lead masks case you can find all episodes of supernatural and all other park originals for free on spotify. And if you like what you're hearing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and on twitter at podcast network. By the time police got the call about the bodies contain hill. It was already starting to get dark. The Hill is surrounded by thick forest and brush so for everyone's safety. They decided to hold off until morning. Of course the press didn't take the same precautions when officers finally did arrive on the morning of August. Twenty first nineteen sixty six vin. Tame Hill was swarming with reporters. They even snapped a few photos before the bodies were carried away unfortunately all the original sources are in Portuguese and more than fifty years later. It's hard to track them all down but some of them were summarized in English in the flying saucer review which despite the name was a fairly credible journal in the sixties based on those articles. Here's what we know about. The police investigation. The only easy part of this case was identifying the victims thirty two year. Old Manuel Pereira de Cruz and thirty. Four year old. Miguel Josie Viana. Both men were electronics. Technicians from a town called compost dose. Go to causes. Which is about one hundred and seventy five miles northeast of Rio de Janeiro. Both of them were happily married. Well respected in the community and led pretty normal. Unassuming lives according to their families. Miguel and Manuel had left town. On the morning of Wednesday August Seventeenth nineteen sixty six three days before their bodies were found. They said they were heading to Sao Paulo to buy some electronics equipment. Along with a used car. They've been looking at. They took some money with them somewhere. Between two and three million Cruzeiros the conversion rate is a little hard to calculate. But that's somewhere worth like a few thousand dollars today at about nine. Am Miguel and Manuel headed out to the bus station? By a friend named Alessio Gomez elsia wanted to go into the bus station and see them off but the other two men insisted that he just dropped them off outside. Elsie didn't understand what the big deal was but he didn't think too much of it. He watched Miguel. Well walk into the bus depot. And then he went back home. That was the last time he ever saw his two friends alive now. Even with the minimal evidence police had at this point. There were a few things about this story. That didn't add up. When the bodies were found the only had a combined one hundred sixty one thousand Cruzeiro on them. The rest of the two to three million is unaccounted for still to this day. And of course they didn't go to Sao Paulo like they told everyone else. They went to a town called Nita. Roy which is a suburb of Rio de Janeiro. Which is a good couple hundred miles away. The investigators went back to need a Roy hoping to find some answers there but once they piece together the rest of August seventeenth nineteen sixty six. All they had were more questions. Miguel and men wells bus would have arrived in Nita Roy at around two or two thirty that afternoon their first stop was an electronic store. They've been to that store before so we can assume it carried some kind of equipment that wasn't sold in their own town but for some reason they left the store without buying anything and they didn't even talk to the sales clerk there now. Maybe the store was out of whatever they were looking for. But the taken a five hour bus ride to get there. Why on earth wind they at least check with the clerk before leaving either way after they lead the electronic store it starts to rain so they stop into a clothing store nearby and buy a pair of matching raincoats again. This doesn't raise any red flags on its own. But what is weird? The clerk said they left in such a rush that they didn't even bother to put on the coats before running out into the rain. The coach they just bought now. You might assume that the big appointment that they were rushing to with the owner of that used car that they were looking to buy. But you'd be wrong. Bay didn't buy any car during the trip so if they weren't buying electronics and they weren't buying a car. What were they doing there? Oddly the next time they surface is at a bar in the same neighborhood as the clothing store and when they get to the bar. They're still like very anxious about the time. Miguel goes to the counter and orders a bottle of mineral water according to the bartender. He's acting very like nervous and impatient and while he's ordering he keeps glancing over at the clock after paying for the water. Miguel keeps the receipt and this might not seem like a big clue but Brazil has a recycling policy where you could return empty bottles for at Deposit. So whatever or whoever they're waiting for. Miguel assumes a won't take too long and he'll have time to return the bottle before heading home that evening no one saw Miguel inman. Well leave the bar so we don't know if they met someone there or at they left alone but at five pm seen at the foot of entame hill we just just outside town they pull up in a jeep driven by someone with blonde hair. There were two other men in the car as well but the witness couldn't see them clearly. Whoever these three men were they were the last people to see. Miguel and Manuel Alive. So by this point police had mapped out all of their movements from leaving home in the morning to arriving at the hill that night but none of it offered any clues about what actually happened next. We already mentioned a few strange details at the scene of the deaths but if we take a closer look it's even more baffling. Let's start off with what they didn't have the money that they brought with them. The most obvious possibility is that this was a robbery gone wrong but staging a scene like this would've taken a lot of time and effort for not a ton of money and they also left some behind also there were no injuries on either of the bodies. No CUTS NO BRUISES. No Burns no sign of violence at all. When the corner didn't autopsy. There were no internal damages either and strangely. Despite sitting out in the open for three days on a hill that's swarming with wildlife. The bodies were totally untouched by animals. No one can really say what that means but it kind of seems like there was something unnatural about the deaths. Even the vultures didn't want to touch them if this wasn't a murder the next possibility was suicide. But this theory sort of falls apart too because Miguel still had the empty water bottle and the receipt. If he knew he was going to die. Why go through the trouble of saving the receipt beyond that police find three pages of handwritten notes? That definitely didn't suggest a suicide pact. The first page has a list of electronics parts numbers. Along with some Algebra work the equation uses Ohm's law which is E. equals. I are which is used to calculate the strength of an electrical current now. The two men were electronics technicians. After all so everyone assumes these are just notes for work project now. The next page though is more of an enigma translated from Portuguese. It says quote Sunday one tablet after the meal. Monday one tablet in the morning on an empty stomach. Tuesday one tablet after the meal Wednesday one tablet before bedtime and quote. Obviously this is talking about some kind of prescription but as far as anyone knows neither Miguel Ormen. Well were sick now. The last dose that Wednesday before bedtime dose would have been taken right before they died but due to decomposition the corner couldn't get anything useful out of the toxicology report so we still don't know what was in those mysterious tablets and this was a little hard for me to understand because just a second ago. I know he said the bodies were kind of untouched by wildlife. I expected them to be in good condition but whatever is going on at the time they just didn't have the technology they didn't have the time and they weren't able to test for it so finally. The third page has another set of instructions. This one said quote sixteen thirty be at the determined location. Eighteen thirty swallow capsules after the effect protect metals. Wait for mask signal end quote. Now the confusion isn't a translation issue. It doesn't make any sense in Portuguese either. It almost seems the note was kind of scribbled down quickly in some kind of shorthand which probably means someone gave the instructions verbally and someone else wrote them down putting altogether. We can at least to gather that. Miguel Aiman well. Weren't the victims of some kind of random attack. They came to the hill for a reason. And that brings us to our last piece of evidence. The lead masks themselves now. You're probably picturing a full mass at like covers your entire face almost like what welders wear but these were about the size and shape of sunglasses made out of solid lead. They were apparently homemade and cut. Roughly FROM SCRAP METAL. Lead blocks radiation. So it's often used as a coating for protective goggles and facials. But these masks were too small to offer any real protection and since they were solid metal it would be impossible to see or do anything while wearing them. So what I police had no idea what to make of these masks but after some digging it turned out that this wasn't an isolated incident according to flying saucer review. There was another case four years earlier where another electronics technician had been found dead on a hill with a lead mask in that previous case the police determined that the man went up to the hill and took some kind of drugs because he was convinced it would allow him to pick up radio and TV signals with his mind now. One delusional technician we can accept but three is a different story. There was something bigger going on here and no one knew how many lives would be taken before this was over. We'll keep digging into the investigation right after this. Let's get back to the story. When Miguel and Manuel died in August? Nineteen sixty six. They left behind dozens of questions and no answers making the case. Even Stranger of victim had died in the same unusual circumstances for years earlier that previous case was reopened but police didn't find any connections to Miguel or Manuel apart from the fact that all three of them were TV repairman. The investigators keep digging and pretty soon. They found another lead. But it wasn't quite what they expected as it turns out. Elsie Gomez wasn't the last person to see Miguel and well before they left for Niteroi while they were waiting for their bus they actually ran into. Miguel's niece just by coincidence. He tells her the same story about going to buy a used car. Now of course the nieces a little skeptical and she wonders like why. Are you taking a five hour bus ride to a city two hundred miles away? Just buy a car. You could probably do that a lot. Closer to home. So Miguel breaks. He tells her the truth or at least part of it. Buying the car isn't really the purpose of the trip. There's another secret purpose. And he can't tell anyone about not even her but he promises that when he gets back he'll tell her whether or not he believes in spiritism. Spiritism is basically the believe that the spirits of the dead live on in a different realm. And it's possible for the living to make contact with them. It's hugely popular in Brazil. In fact it's the third most popular religion in the country but it was actually started by a French writer in the eighteen fifties known as Alan carjack. Now in the eighteen hundreds seances and clairvoyance were a big deal Europe and like every trend. It inspired a wave of knockoffs. Eventually a bunch of mediums were exposed as frauds and skeptics started to doubt whether anyone was legit but Alan Cardiac who was a scientist and a medical doctor had been to sands as himself and he'd seen some things that he couldn't dismiss as a mere hoax. If these phenomena are in fact real there has to be some way to prove it so to get to the bottom of it cardiac devices an experiment he puts together a list of over a thousand questions about the spiritual realm the creation of the universe the meaning of life etc. Then he takes these questions to ten different mediums throughout Europe who claim to be able to channel spirits. None of the mediums had ever met each other or communicated in any way but to many of the questions all ten of them gave the same response. Cardiac compiles those matching answers into a book titled The Spirits Book which outlines his new philosophy without getting too far into it. The basic idea is that every person has an immortal spirit or what some might call a soul during life. It's tethered to their physical body and after death that spirit is released and eventually reincarnated into a different body. This idea on its own isn't unique but what's important here. Is the approach cardiac considered himself a scientist not a mystic and once he had a working theory of how the spirit world worked it opened the door for a whole movement of scientists to do their own research which brings us back to Miguel inman well wall. Searching in Miguel's home police found a book about scientific spiritism again not that unusual in Brazil so it probably didn't catch anyone's I until his niece made her revelation but inside the book there were passages highlighted about intense luminosity spirits and most importantly masks. This was the best lead they had so far. It was also completely insane. The investigators kept hoping for a more rational explanation but a week into the investigation on August. Twenty Fifth Nineteen Sixty six. A new witness came forward and the case took another turn for the bazaar on the night. That Manuel Miguel died. A woman named Griselda was driving by Vin Tame Hill. With three of her kids she saw something hanging. Over the top of the hill an orange oval shaped object engulfed in a ring of fire. She stopped the car and she and her kids just stood there and watched it for a few minutes. It was rising and falling in the sky sending out rays of blue light in every direction that I I witnessed account would be easy enough to dismiss on its own but after the details leaked to the press multiple other witnesses called in with the exact same story and they all said. They didn't come forward sooner because they knew how stupid it would sound. They felt like they would sound crazy and be dismissed with all this buzzing around in the papers. The police had no choice. But to dig into the spiritism angle. They spoke to me and wells wife and she confirmed that her husband and Miguel were both spiritus and before men wells death. She saw him arguing with another member of their spiritus group. Elsia Gomez that's the same elsia Gomez. Who Drove Manuel and Miguel to the bus station. Now else you had been ruled out as a suspect pretty quickly because he was still at home nearly two hundred miles away when the deaths took place but on August twenty seventh. They questioned him again. And this time elsia cracked not only were He. Manuel and Miguel all scientific spiritus. They were part of secret. Occult Society in fact according to L. CEO. Nearly every electronics specialist in the area was involved in the society. The purpose of this secret group is still sort of a mystery but they were involved in some strange experiments related to spiritism specifically elsia. Manuel and Miguel had been working on a technique to contact beings on Mars. One of the basic teachings of spiritism is that there's life on other planets and where there's life there's a spirit. Hypothetically it would be possible to contact a Martian living or dead. The same way you'd contact the human spirit earlier that year. They built an electronic device for that purpose which they attempted to use in men wells garden but all it did was violently explode but after the smoke cleared Manuel found a strange powder sprinkled around the garden and to him. This was evidence that spirit had been there a while later on June thirteenth. They tried this again this time. Probably for safety reasons. They decided to move their experiment to add a phone a beach which is about twenty four miles outside of town soon after they get there and intensely luminous object descends over the shore after about five minutes the glowing objects starts rising then and this part was confirmed by witnesses. There is a blinding flash of light and it all goes coban once again after the explosion. Mcgill well found the same suspicious powder around the beach possibly a sign that the light they saw was an alien spirit. This is where it gets really interesting because the police already knew about what happened at Autobahn of beach. The explosion was so powerful it was felt all the way back encompass. The Brazilian navy was already looking into it on the evening before the phone of beach. Explosion the Navy's monitoring system had picked up a conversation between three HAM radio stations. They didn't recognize. They checked the logs and those three stations didn't officially exist. They weren't registered to anyone in Brazil according to L. CEO. Miguel and Manuel ran a secret radio station so one of the three signals had to come from them. The other two are still a mystery but whoever they belong to they must have been in on the experiments as well. There are a few theories theories about who these people might be. And we'll look into those possibilities right after this. Now let's get back to the story A couple of weeks into their investigation in August of nineteen sixty six. The Rio de Janeiro police had piece together the last days of Miguel Lanman well. They were conducting some kind of experiment to contact spirits on Mars using a device that had a tendency to explode as for how that experiment was supposed to work. No one really knows but we can at least try to piece together a theory. We know that our two victims were interested in spiritism and also that they worked in electronics. So it's pretty likely that they knew about the work of Sir. William CROOKES CROOKS was a British scientists in the late eighteen. Hundreds around. The time that Allan Cardiac was writing the spirits book like most people in London at the time. William Crookes had been to a lot of chances and he'd seen things that he couldn't explain particularly heat. Seeing apparitions of intense lights crooks was a leading expert on spectroscopy the study of light so this gave him an idea. The spectrum of light we see is just a form of electromagnetic radiation. Our eyes are tuned to pick up on a certain range of wavelengths radios or cell. Phones can pick up waves at other frequencies so crooks thought maybe there's another unidentified wave link that our brain can use to send and Receive Thoughts Aka telepathy theoretically there could be an undiscovered nerve center in the brain that can send and receive thought waves the same way. Our eyes can pick up lightweights. Now there's no real evidence of this but even today they're still a lot we don't know about how the brain works so anything is possible and quite honestly. I love this theory. Unfortunately Crooks didn't get a chance to test his theory but it was hugely influential on the Spiritus Movement and apparently on the electronics community in Brazil. A few weeks into the lead mass saga a newspaper called the Foyer Day Sao Paulo interviewed a man who identified himself as a professor of Yoga. The men knew a lot about the spiritus in the area and he guessed that. Miguel Manuel were probably trying to contact. Spirits telepathically using high frequency thought waves. He goes on to say that a lot of local spiritus use psychedelic drugs like LSD or Mescaline to enter this higher state of consciousness. Now there's a few studies that look at how psychedelics affect brain activity the general finding is that the way the brain acts on psychedelics is similar to the way it behaves when a person is dreaming the imagination is unconstrained and the sense of self identity is weakened and according to spiritus teachings it's much easier to perceive spiritual phenomena a Brazilian scholar named Father Vado echoed the same idea in an interview with the Brazilian newspaper. O Globo Father. Vado said that whatever drugs men well Miguel took were meant to induce a trance. State where they would be able to perceive light emissions from another realm. These emissions would be dangerously powerful and bright so the lead masks were meant to protect their is. They're still one more loose thread though the three men in the jeep who drop them off at the hill they were never identified but it seems likely that they were part of the secret. Spiritus group is well they may have even been the ones who orchestrated the whole experiment if so they might be the only people that know. How Miguel Ammon? Well actually died without their statements. We can only speculate one culprit could be the pills they took. It's close to impossible to die of an actual like LSD or Meslin overdose with the pills they took could have been tampered with. Or it actually could have been something else entirely. There was nothing in the autopsy to suggest they were poisoned. But there wasn't a full toxicology report so we don't really know another possibility is electrocution their previous experiments. All involved in electronic device although there was nothing like that found on the hill if there was a device involved at some point it would be pretty dangerous to mess with it outside in the rain there was no signs of electrocution on the bodies. Either but decomposition might have made it hard to tell and of course. There is another option. We can't ignore. Miguel and Manuel could have been murdered. These are two men who were driven by curiosity. They wanted to find the truth even if it meant putting themselves in danger even if it meant lying to their families this made them dedicated researchers but it also made them easy to manipulate think about the unidentified men who dropped. Miguel inman well off at the hill. The handwritten notes with the instructions which looked like they were dictated by someone else. The money that disappeared. Here's another narrative of what might have happened. The two men are approached. At a seance which we know that they went to regularly. They're manipulated into trying some radical new experiment when Elsie finds out. He's not on board. There's an argument and Miguel and Manuel decide to go on without their lured to a remote location and given instructions. Not to tell anyone where they're going. Miguel and Manuel handover a big chunk of money. Supposedly to pay for the materials. They're given pills. Which could have been poisoned and again? We can't say for sure without a toxicology report but we can't rule it out either. I don't know about you but this theory feels kind of off almost like a letdown for one thing. It's disappointing to think that this is all just another random act of violence and the more you think about it. This would be a lot of effort to go through for just a few thousand bucks and at that. They didn't even take all the money. But what's really hard to swallow that Manuel and Miguel's quest for the truth was taken advantage of from the beginning. Spiritism was about separating the real psychics from the frauds it's heartbreaking to think that two of its followers fell prey to a scam and it costs them their lives now. There is one more theory I wanNA talk about. And it's a little out there but it's at least worth considering none of theories we've mentioned so far have really explained the last piece of evidence that we have the glowing object that was seen floating above the hill. Let's say there really was an orange fire engulfed objects hanging above the hill shooting. Raise a blue light in every direction. That doesn't exactly sound like a human aircraft. It doesn't sound like something. Manuel and Miguel would be able to make on their own. Since their previous Chretien's were disastrous to say the least but it does sound like a lot of reported ufo sightings. We've been assuming that. Miguel wealth experiment failed. But what if it didn't what if they didn't die at all they just moved on to a different world. Alan car decks first spiritus tax. The spirits book has a section on trance states. It says quote. The annihilation of corporeal ties is almost complete. The soul is only held there to buy a single thread which any further effort on his part would break forever and quote when a person enters a trance their soul basically drifts away from their body and enters into the spirit realm and after seeing the harmony of the whole universe. Open Up. Sometimes these souls. Don't WANNA go back to their bodies when this happens. The spirits book says quote if he sees that his future situation will be better than his present. One He makes an effort to break the links that bind him to the earth and quote just for the sake of argument. What if Manuel Miguel made contact with the spirit world and chose to stay there? It would explain the light that was seen over the hill. It would explain the sudden simultaneous death with no apparent cause and it would explain why no signal pointed to suicide. The weren't planning on the outcome. It just happened. Maybe it's wishful thinking but of all of the options we've discussed. It's the one man. Well Miguel would have wanted after just a few weeks of investigation. The lead masks case was closed in September of nineteen sixty six. There wasn't enough evidence to consider it a homicide. The press forgot about it and the whole story dried up almost overnight over the past fifty years there have been plenty of revisitation amateur theories but no new developments at this point. I think it's safe to say we'll never get a real answer. I mean that is of course unless we went to hold our own. Say on an ASS. Manuel and Miguel Ourselves Thanks for listening. I'll be back next week with another episode. You can find all episodes of supernatural and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Spotify has all your favorite music and podcasts. All in one place. 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033: Mama Bear Apologetics with Hillary Morgan Ferrer | The Living Room

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033: Mama Bear Apologetics with Hillary Morgan Ferrer | The Living Room

"Tools for living room to grow a space of grace to become everything. God wants us to be. You're listening to the living room. Podcast with Joanna. Weaver episode thirty three in First Peter. Three fifteen told if someone asks you about. Your hope is believer. Always be ready to it now. I don't know about you. But that's kind of a tall order. Are we able to articulate why we believe what we believe? I'm really excited to have Hillary Morgan Pereira with us today. She's the author of Mama Bear apologetic. And she's not only going to talk to us about how to defend our faith but how to do it as I. Peter Three fifteen says in a gentle and respectful way and she's going to give us tips and tools to help our children understand why they said that they can stand in an increasingly pagan world. Will you guys? I am so excited to introduce you to my guest today. Hillary Morgan Ferrara is the founder of Mama. Bear apologetic and I. I just excited to see what God has for this conversation today. Welcome to the living room. Hillary thank you for having me. This is GonNa be fun. We've had quite a few technical difficulties as we've gotten ready for this so I'm excited to see what God has in store absolutely. I say the more technical difficulties the more this message is not supposed to get out but we shall persevere men amen. Well when I first saw your book I just the title was like Oh my goodness. It's so much fun just to say Mama. Bear apologetic said Action Lavar. Ladies are doing it here at the church and really enjoyed it but tell us how did how did God bring you to this spot and and writing this book? This is an interesting story so first off one of the things that I always have to tell people when I do interviews is that I am not myself mother I had I had cancer Right during the time when I would be kind of we would be starting to family so Several years ago so in general I struggle with insomnia but sometimes the insomniacs because I just have some thought going through my head and if I can just write it down then I think if I can get it on paper than my mind doesn't have to sit there and be like you know trying to ruminate on it so much in trying to remember it for the morning so I had several nights in a row that I couldn't sleep and I just had this phrase Mama bear apologetic going through my head and so what I did was I started writing down whatever I could just. I mean basically my thing was I wanted to get to sleep but after about three or four nights of this I thought holy cow. I've got like an entire ministry laid out here. It at that point it was Kinda saw moment of. I think the Lord's calling me to do this in my immediate response was kind of like Moses where I said Lord. I think you've called the wrong person because I don't have kids. I've never done women's ministry before but I really cut it. Felt the Lord say strongly that No. I've called the right person number one because you have something that a lot of MOMS don't have and that's time to research which is true and number two. This is You're not going to be a mother. Physical children probably not even foster adopted children. But you can be a mother a spiritual children's so this is my way of of making you a mother. If you equip the moms out there to be the best moms they can be that. You have been the best mother that you can be and so it kind of was like I don't know this kind of redemption. Feeling that he said I called the right person. And this is the way that you're going to be a mom by equipping other MOMS To equip their kids I love that so much. Hillary God is so creative is it was so sure that nobody was gonNA listen to me. And I've I've every single time someone's asked me for interview before the because it's in the book you know. So if they've read the book they know that I don't have kids but every other time someone asks just for the ministry before the book I said I just WanNa make sure that you know. I don't have kids. Is that still okay. And I just waited every single time for them to be like. Oh well that we kind of want someone with a little more experience being a mom you know for the this mom podcast in. Nobody ever said that to me so I think that was just the enemy just tried to. He was feeding me lies about. Why shouldn't be doing this ministry and I have never had it come to pass. I mean I'm sure it'll happen at some point but I've even had someone. Tell me this is why I like her. We need we need a million more like her. I can't even tell you how much I cried when I saw that When of the fact that I wasn't a mom and I was writing to moms so that that was someone wrote that on Instagram and that basically was the final punch like Ha Satan. You're wrong I can do. This in God has called me at. That is so awesome. Well in the the reality is is while you might not be a momma. You do bring some really important qualifications to the table. A Hillary has her master's in biology and her specialties. Are In scientific apologetic critiques of the Darwinian Mechanism dealing with out in identifying causes in solutions for youth. Leaving the church in. Can I just tell you we need all of that so very much so i. I'm glad I'm so glad that God laid that on your heart. He's so creative and he doesn't waste a single thing. You know a lot of us know we know the Momma bear part were like Oh yeah. I relate to that but there's some listeners out there like apologetic what is that can you? Can you fill in the blank? Therefore I can so. Yeah that was. I was hoping to teach people about apologize by bringing on men with the Momma bear because they know the Momma bear part so they thought well if it's a mama bear thing that maybe I should figure out with this. This word is as apologetic comes from the Greek Word Apple Aghia which means to give a defense for something in so when we say give a defense. Were not meaning being defensive but rather this is what early lawyers were called had like you know first second century they were giving reasons for things. They're like when you think of a lawyer. They're trying to make the best case possible. Y something is true. And so. That's exactly what apologised do is. They are making the base best case possible for why something is true. Now you don't just have to be a Christian apologist. Christian apologetic would be making the case for why Christianity is true but as like when I talked to youth who may be unfamiliar with the term. I say raise your hand if you have a band or an artist or TV show or movie that you think is just objectively superior above all others and you know a hundred reasons. Why and of course they all or sports person and of course they all raise their hands for that and I said how much more important is your eternal salvation. The thing in which you base your attornal salvation. On how many more reasons should you have for that because I think there's this misnomer in Christianity? Sometimes that we need to have a blind a blind faith is a pure faith and I don't think that's the case because I when I look at Hebrews eleven one when it talks about what faith is of being sure of what you hope for in certain of what you do not see that anything makes us more and more certain actually increases our faith in so apologetic having those reasons instead of decide. Well the Bible says so are my parents said so. Pastor said so you can look at it and say no logic history reason philosophy. They're all kind of backing it up in. I believe the Bible authoritative but also I believe it because it makes sense Yes yes in fact time working on a chapter for my book on trusting God and about a reasonable faith that that it does make sense and and too often they think. Sometimes we think of apologetic says like. We're trying to make some kind of apology. And it's it's the opposite. It is the opposite. So bringing that to the Momma Bear and you know I think the thing that I love about your book is as I was looking through it. It's it's not. It's not coming up with this. Rigid defensiveness the Mama. Bear as sometimes we see Mama Bear's that are just out to destroy people guy so tell us bring that together. What DOES MOMMA BEAR apologised? Look like so. That's one of the things that we are very clear in the book that we demolish ideas. We do not demolish people and I like to talk about the The verse it says that people are held captive tobacco philosophy that we're not dealing with enemies when we have people who have different beliefs we're dealing with captives in so if we think the idea is holding this person captive our goal is to separate the person from the idea in so. I kind of compare it to if you watch any of those kind of like the detective shows or whatever. The police shows where if they wanted to. If someone's being held hostage You know let's say that. The perpetrator has their arm around them. You know with a gun to their head if you don't have a clear shot at the perpetrator you don't take the shot because you might accidentally hit the victim in so I think sometimes with people day. They go so vehemently against the ideas that they don't bother to separate the person from the idea in so they end up basically just kind of trashing the person which is a horrible way to go about trying to show the aroma of Christ in so we are going to be a Mama. Bear apologised one of the things that we emphasize over and over and over in this book is discernment and Specifically Discernment in the round of looking for areas of agreement before you look for areas of disagreement. I like that a lot. Yes and I find it almost anything because people don't believe things for really bad bad reasons. I mean they usually have a good intention. They have a good motive They have something that they think is good impure true that they're holy non to in if we look for what they think is good impure and true a lot of times. We're GONNA find that. We agree with them. We disagree on how it kind of manifest itself in so if we can say. Ooh I stand with you for against injustice. I stand with you against racism. I stand with you against Misogyny. I stand with you against the abuse. That's happening I can stand with you on. All these things against oppression. I can stand with you on those. Now you're solutions to that problem. I think maybe aren't necessarily the best way to go about that. So here's how I think scripture actually approaches the having true justice in true racial reconciliation in true peace between the genders in all the things that people are fighting about right now the idea of truth. Here's how the Bible presents it which I think is a better way to present it. But let's talk about this in so you're affirming their motives while disagreeing with the idea in helping to separate them in your building bridges before you start trying to dismantle a bad idea and I think that's a huge difference from how we've seen Some apologetic in the past which is just been kind of a Christian fight club. You know debate in atheist I think it's different from there in terms of who were going after but also You know like in a sense of is this an evangelistic thing but also as a discipleship thing for teaching people why they believe and not falling to these bad ideas as a Christian exactly well you know the Bible's really clear. Knowledge puffs up but love builds up in so only going just loaded for bear. Mama bear if that's our only motivation and I agree. I mean I think the world is so hungry for people who can have a reasonable conversation. I see especially in today's climate even among Christians I keep thinking of the verse In the NFC it says let your gentleness the evident all but in the new King James says let your reasonableness be evident. Aw I like that. We need this and I think that's what's so important about. This book is not only not only for us as Mamas to train our children but I think the whole body of Christ needs to have a new approach. Yes I agree. One more thing about the momma bear that also like to say is the idea of that. She's not going to get things because she hates them. She's doing it because she loves something else. More Kinda like the phrase where the shepherd hate the wolf as much as he loves the sheep in. I would say that the mother the Momma Bear does not hate the ideas as much as she loves her children who are being attacked by these ideas. Exactly and I do think it's important. Not only as mothers but also just as Christians ourselves we were all being kind of there's this onslaught of the Christian worldview and you pointed out in your book that you know we are not very far away from being a non Christian nation it used to be at. Everyone believed that the Bible was the inspired word of God. We don't have that commonality anymore. Why is it important for us as Mama's but also as Christians to really understand why we believe what we believe? This is actually a series that we're going through in church right now. It says it's interesting. How the Lord sometimes puts the same a burden of idea onto multiple people. I think that's how you know the Lord's trying to emphasize something so in Church. We're going through a series on living exiles which is something that. I've been thinking about for this past year. Is this idea that we're going to be living as exiles in so one of the things that we have to be teaching our kids. Is this idea of first of all we talking? In the Momma Bear Book about emotionalism. The more I feel something the more true it is will if we apply that to salvation. If one of our kids doesn't feel saved on a particular day according to emotional isn't there not saved Because emotions apparently determined truth in so being convinced of why we believe what we believe is going to be absolutely crucial because no one's going to suffer no one's GonNa let themselves be slandered. No one's GonNa let themselves be shamed into believing something Or for believing something that they're not actually totally sure if it's true or not and so in that sense. I think apologetic is to be so vitally important. 'cause we can't just have kids who know what's the Bible teaches. They need to know why the Bible is trustworthy and why it is worse suffering for because as we're entering this post Christian time in our country I one of the biggest tactics that I see going on is she it shaming people for what they believe again. Chapter four goes into something called linguistic theft. Where we're taking concepts in words and ideas were changing the definition so for an example the concept of love is being changed to say instead of you know what it's described in scripture in like Corinthians I Corinthians Thirteen. It's being described as anything that makes someone uncomfortable accepting someone exactly as they are in everything they do as they are in. If you don't accept everything about a person that's being unloving right and so our kids are going to be shamed in fact. Actually I've got A. I've got a good quote here in this book called rules for radicals in. It's basically a handbook by a man named Saul Alinsky. Who is talking about well? First off you should recognize. He has his dedication to Lucifer in the beginning. So that should Want to give you an idea of where he starting from. Yeah so he calls Lucifer the original radical but I marked a couple pages in here and it has a very much the ends justify the means kind of mentality and it gives you different rules for that in so here on page thirty six it says the Tenth Role of ethics means an ends. Is that you do you can with what you have in you. Clothe it in moral arguments or in moral garments and arguments. So it's this idea of whatever they're bringing in you need to close the immoral garment so this idea of changing the definition of love changing the definition of injustice. Changing the definition of oppression. You have to clothe it moral garments in so he goes on on page forty four. It says all effective actions required the passport of morality. So think about that which is just crazy because apart from God. There is no morality at exactly what they're doing is they're taking the words that God is given for morality and they're changing the definitions to fit. What their morality is and then they're putting that on our kids insane. Well you're God says to be a god of justice but this is what looks like your God says to be a god of love but this is what this looks like and so our kids are saying. Hey this person's right. I am supposed to be loving CI- supposed to fight for the oppressed but when you change the definition of WHO's oppressed. What constitutes oppression. You can actually make someone start affirming sin and you can shame them into affirming sin by saying you're being unloving oppressive unjust `wow because it's closed in those moral garments and that is the kind of I would say what's the word. That's the kind of Persecution that we're going to start seeing happy now that it's not Say the original persecution if you look at first century where people were being fed to lions. That was saying you submit or your Or we Fiji to the Lions. They're not asking for outward obedience As much as they're asking for our ideological agreement and they're going to shame us into that first before they try to force us to submit they actually instead of saying we only care about your actions. We also care about what you actually believe. You'll be shamed for believing what you say you believe. And we're GONNA use these moral arguments. That year agree with according to Your Bible. And that's how insidious this is. Yeah Yeah so how? How do we start? How do we start to build that moral foundation for our kids? Yeah I think there's a couple of different things it's like number. One is just knowing what the word says the way that scripture is being twisted is is not just within the atheist round but also within Christian and a Christian realm if you look at the chapter on Progressive Christianity if you listen to some of the stuff that One of the authors of the book. Who wrote the Progressive Christianity? At least a children's talks about we're seeing these perversions. Starting to happen in the church so number one is you need to know what scripture says so that when when someone twists it that you can tell the difference But secondly in this is one of the ones that I think is the most eye opening for most women that I've talked to is when you learn how to spot these buzzwords these linguistically theft words. And you start to learn. Oh and some of these is you. Start saying okay. What's what's the bite message of this. Ism you start seeing it everywhere so I think kind of becoming aware of the lies. That are being Perpetuated I think just being aware. Is that first step in also knowing what scripture says so he can always compared against that those two things right there that that's the starting point will in. That's what make sure books so powerful because you really kind of break it. Break it down into some topical things that kids are being assaulted with and you give us The roar method. Can you talk about that? Yes I loved. Okay said the funny. The funny story about the roar method is it started out as the six DS and like you know discernment discipleship in this six. I still can't remember where they are. But that's the reason why we scrapped. It is like we can't remember what they are House. Anyone else can remember what they are so we need a better. You know the acronym so yes so. We came up with the war. Which basically kinda squeeze the sixties into into that acronym but it stands for recognize the message in so this is like taking what's going on in paring it down to its real base message of like what's really being said here. Sometimes it's going to be unstated assumptions or unstated messages. But if you really look at it you're like okay. That's the message that's being it's being brought before people so recognize the message a second step is offered discernment and I I tell people have this little hand thing that I do. But you can't see me that we need to Separate the good from the bad except the good and reject the bad so. It's this idea that basically most most lies will be covered in partial troops in so if we just outright outright rejects anything that someone says were missing the partial truth that it's wrapped in. They're gonNA say wow this person's ignoring this really the this truth here. They don't know what they're talking about. And you lose all credibility so what we have to do. Is We have to say what is the partial truth that is wrapped around that line. We need to that affirm affirm affirm so that first step affirmed the good in rejected. That is the method of discernment that we're doing their said that recognized the message offer discernment third is argue for a healthier approach so in the offer discernment one when we said. We affirmed the good now in argue for a healthier approach. We're GONNA say okay. This is the ground that we can both stand on. So let's talk about. How scripture actually addresses this in a better way in how had a scripture the goal that you're trying to this good goal that this person is espousing had a scripture actually actually address that issue in a healthier way so we start looking about what a scripture say about this? How can we achieve the same goals but maybe with different means through Biblical means In so then the final one. The final are is reinforced through the discussion discipleship. In prayer said it has a couple of different aspects that discussion. We just Kinda give a kind of starting discussion tips. That you can have with your kids ways to talk with them about these `ISMs discipleship sometimes. We'll have little activities that we think would be a fun thing to do to reinforce the ideas and then finally the prayer we have this wonderful woman named Julie Los who has been with moms in prayer for Like Valley twenty years. I think that went through an outline each one of the chapters in the just theologically rich prayers for each one of these items that you can pray over your kids because we we have to know that the war is not just against Russian blood but against the rulers in the powers of the authorities of the stark world. And that's you know fighting. That battle on our knees is probably even more important than doing anything else. We need to be doing all of it but we cannot leave out prayer. Yes yes yes well in the thing I loved as you you actually each chapter you break it down using that roar method to kind of give us some handholds that I think are really powerful of of how we can actually walker kids through thinking these things through you know how are are you seeing. The kids got any stories of kids. That are actually you feel like they're really catching it. And and they're making it their own. Oh Yeah so One of our one of our Mama Bear. She's not on the website yet her. Name's Amanda Burke. She just kind of found me probably sometime last fall in has. Just been such a proponent. But she's got a picture of her daughter sitting there reading the book the her daughter wouldn't give her back the book because she like this is amazing. And then I've had other moms with the kids in high school. That just started reading it and say oh my Gosh. I need to give this to all my friends We we've had some ladies talk about this one woman. I love it on the book. Launch team her Her son or daughter but has been known now to scream out in a In a Movie Theater Pad Worldview with Your Dad worldview which to me? I JUST. I would love to be in that movie theater. It'd be like I need a shake. The hand of whatever parent that is right there And so it's it's been really fun and I think one of the most fun things is especially with women sending me Pictures of either messages that they see on t shirts or pause on the TV with the closed captions in it with you know some Guy's side. Well I need to follow my truth. They'll send this picture in the like. Oh I can't not see stuff anymore so I think it. Is this idea that once you start to see it. You can't not see it and in some ways that's good some ways it's like oh my. Gosh. The world has changed. Was the red pill here from the Matrix. I take the red pill now. I can't not see all this stuff so I think women are starting to see it. There passing it on to their kids that I think kids are Kinda having having a good time making a game out of it so I think that's a win win. Yeah yeah well. Unfortunately we're we're kind of losing our opportunities to disciple our kids in in Biblical truths and so bringing the word and making it applicable to the things that they're facing I think is so powerful and and I think youth pastors children's pastors You send schoolteachers. I think all of you guys could really benefit from your this book. You know one of the things that as I was just thinking over my children of got two grown kids and now seventeen year old and Wanting them to have a strong faith. You know one of the things you talk about is. We shouldn't expect our children to follow a you know do they. Don't have to and I think the other really important thing but you know not beyond beyond knowing how to give an answer and or a a reasoned faith you know one of the things I've just been. Praying is Lord. Would you make yourself for real to my children because we can have all kinds of head knowledge and we can turn into wonderful little pharisees but we don't experience the true life change which honestly I think is the very best part of the good news is that Jesus not only came to save us from our sins. He came to give us life in life more abundantly. What would you say to? Mamas are as they're wanting to shepherd their kids and wanting to disciple them and and to give them the tools they need to stand in this present age one of my fears. Is that if I arm them. That they may not use those weapons in a loving way or come from a really Christ light place. How what can we do in that arena? That's a really good question because I think that I have this. Kids are really and white thinkers and so I remember being this way when I was a kid. There's the something I kind of jokingly refer to as the you're going to Hell Syndrome Bob. Where when younger kids kinda start learning the kind of real black and white parts of the Bible all of a sudden? They're really excited to tell everybody else. That doesn't believe that you're going to hell. You're going to hell and is one of those things that we have to recognize that these are developmental stages at kind of noticed a lot of different developmental stages within Christianity even for people who convert at a later age. Basically a kind of goes along. The lines of were always more judgmental. Were always the most judgmental on where we just came from and I think if people understand this pattern they can learn to protect against it and they can also give grace to people when they see them doing this In this is the idea. So we'll say that someone has been living very worldly life and they finally become Christian. We'll now they're kind of really judgmental on people who haven't come to Christ you need to know what I know and they wanna tell every everybody everything in then maybe they start cleaning up their life some in all Sunday notice these people that call themselves Christians who haven't cleaned up their life in all said their their you know their main focus is getting those people to clean up their life. Because I did it so you can do it and then you keep going to wear. Oh we'll maybe I should start doing spiritual disciplines will now all the people that are. Just you know not smoking in having sex. But they don't actually read their Bible. Okay you need to read Your Bible and I'm GonNa that's that's now my mission and you actually will get in. I know all of this because I watched myself go through some of these stages the stages that I think are the funniest ones that I watched myself. Go through is when you get to the point of where. I'd been very judgmental at some point and then I got past being judgmental and then I was judgmental on the people who were judgmental. It's true I think that's where I was like There's a pattern here. And so now it's like I'm to the place where it's like. I kinda see what stage people are in and I can give them grace. And when someone's super judgmental like you know what I was there and then when I see people. Her judgmental on people who are judgmental. I was like you know what I went through. That one is so I got his faithful to to bring us through it so I think that's one thing I'm trying to the original question but I'll just keep going with what sane but also with kids. I liked you kinda going into this idea of number one knowledge up but love builds up in the idea of the love of Christ in the experience of Christ is one of the most important things that we can give our children and this is where I think it's really really important for parents to understand personality types with their kids because when we talk about evidence. There's like this real narrow concept of evidence. Oh we're giving evidences for the resurrection were giving evidences for the existence of God but when it comes to personality type personnel type actually determines what constitutes evidence for a specific person. Interesting talk about that. So for example. If you've ever done Myers Briggs one of the things on there would be the thinker versus feeler and all that is is saying the person who values outcomes in more logical facts or the person who values more our relationships in harmony. So it's not like you know thinkers don't feel are feelers. Don't think it's more like happy. Make decisions said the idea of how you make decisions. Ideally we should make decisions based on evidence so if you have a child like me it was just a question asker from the very beginning. I need to know those intellectual. I need to know those intellectual answers I need to be able to. It's like which direction people go I. It's like they either go first in. That's how it seeps into their heart or they go heart I in that's how it seeps into their head so if you have someone that's more the emotional that's more feeler value testimony they evaluate experience than evidence for them will be that testimony will be that experience. Now who is more of a thinker can just wave wave you know emotion experience away is like that's just chemicals in the brain that changes every day motions All over the place. I need something that doesn't move. That's that's like me. I need something that doesn't move something. That's not based on my emotions so from me. Evidence is going to be objective evidence and that that knowledge doesn't puff me up. That evidence actually gives me faith So I would just say learning your kids personality type so if you WANNA know. If they're kind of the thinker feeler. How many questions are are they asking are? Do they ask a lot of questions if you if they ask a lot of questions? You probably have a thinker on your hands and you need to start helping them with the intellectual aspects of being able to defend the faith If you have someone who is really more of a feeler who Base is a lot of their decisions on experiences. Will then I think it's wonderful to really a focus on the EXPERIENTIAL ASPECT OF CHRIST? They need to still have the intellectual to fall back on because again our emotions will be all over the place but it's okay to maybe focus on things. Oh and there's actually a third category which I call the doers. I call him to thinker. Feeler endures the doers. Are the ones that are maybe not as emotional? There may be not as intellectual but they really value seeing change so for example I've I've known some my nephew's mentioned to my sister at one point Several years back when she took them to some kind of service thing like a soup kitchen or go to help out with something or helping out with underprivileged kids and they told her we really enjoyed that. We Really WanNa do that again. So sometimes doers. Don't want to talk about their feelings. They don't really Wanna about intellectual stuff but serving and really practical ways actually reinforces their faith. Because when you're doing we do what we believe. That's just kind of the nature of you know if you WanNa know what someone really believes. Look at what they do. The more they do is actually increasing their face. So looking at if you have a thinker feeler doer. Know what constitutes evidence for them and the Taylor that to your kids. That is so good. That's so good. One of the girls in my private facebook group asked this question. How do you effectively teach your kids? What's right in such a way that you show them the truth and still leave room for them to choose to follow Christ for themselves? I this question a lot and I'm interested in how you would answer it. I that's great. I think one of the things that we can do is we can't introduce them to alternate views in alternate worldviews in alternate religions. And then we can take a look at in. I know this is a bit of a pragmatist approach. This idea I don't I don't affirm that we should be pragmatist in the sensitive like it's true if it works because there's a lot of things that work that are not trying but at the same time. I think a cohesive worldviews going to answer more questions in that it creates and we can look at if we actually followed. The teachings will say the New Testament with the world. Be Better would be worse. You know the idea of turn the other cheek. The idea of loving your enemies These kinds of things I think exposing them in small bits to the alternate theories while at the same time having a reason for why we reject that it may be let them struggle for a little bit. Ask them about that. What would the world look like if everybody believes this? What are some of the implications so for example? There's a a line in the. I think it's in the newspaper. It's either new spirituality. One of Lisa's chapters in the book where it's talking about Pantheon them where she says along the lines of you know the everything has got in got his one so there is basically no difference between God your dog in the tree. Your dog just peed on. Yeah if that's your view of God. Is that something that you want worship like the that's included in the tree that your dog just peed on It kinda picking things apart in looking in saint. Does this makes sense. And is this the best explanation I would? I would just posit. The Christianity is the best explanation so we not only need to show them how. It's a good explanation but also maybe how some of the other ones fail is well but also say you know. These are some of the things that are getting right so we have a girl named Lindsay. Walt who has been working for the last year doing a world religion series on on the Momma Bear Podcast the the articles the blog in one of the things that we include in in all of those is. What can we learn from this religion? Because there's things that they're doing really well. I mean you look at the Mormons. At how well they do family. How will they do evangelism? You look at Islam in the how devout they are in their prayer life There are things that we can learn so I think not presenting things is black and white is probably the number one thing you can do for your kids teaching them to discern because I think I say in the Mama Bear Book If you teach your you there's no such thing as autopilot in the Christian life we always have to be discerning things. I really like how you say that because if we're willing to make room for questions when the questions come. They won't throw them for a loop like a lot of courage. Young kids are teenagers. You know you share some of the statistics that are teens are leaving the church once. They've graduated Their Lou leaving their faith because they don't know how to answer the challenges and I would say along those lines. This is my theory of what happens. Is that throughout their life? They're asking questions and you kind of have a kid with gracious reading. Who's wanting to have answers? But the more kind of Acre just have faith or if we knew everything we wouldn't need faith in God's just mysterious Kind of answers that we give them the more we teach them that. There aren't good answers to their questions. That the God can be stumped by the logic of a four year old or an eight year old. That's a bad precedent to set in so it may not make him walk away from their faith right there. But what's happening is they're putting those questions kind of their pervious back pocket and what is GonNa Happen later? Is they're going to encounter either number one sin that they don't want to give up or number to a An emotional wound. They don't know how to get past and at that point they they walk away from the faith in when you say. Why have you walked away? They're not GonNa talk about the sin and they're not going to talk about the emotional wound they're gonNA reach into their back pocket at all those questions that were either not answered or poorly answered in. They're gonNA hand you those in say this is. Why don't believe because you couldn't answer? Then they're guessing you can't answer it now in it actually protects the real reasons that they're walking away In so I think that's why it's important to be answering these along the way but I also think there's a good a case to be made for something that my old pastures wife back when I was in high school Saying that I love. I can still hear her saying it. It's it's hilarious. Because she was referring to sex if he wanted a good stick stock you would over to. The Pastor's house in his wife was like okay. Let's let's talk about this But her philosophy was. I don't want my children hearing anything that they haven't heard in my kitchen. I thought is so good. I know I love that and so I think when it comes to the idea of objections to Christianity. That's the approach. We need to take when it comes to objections to Christianity. We don't want our kids hearing anything that they haven't heard in our kitchen. I in that we didn't already address with them. And kind of help refute at the same time I love it. I love it. You know as we're talking. I keep thinking of Paul. You know he was a definitely a black and white thinker as saw. He decided that he was going to destroy Christianity. And then God knocked off his high horse and he. He was transformed into a man who was willing to entertain the questions and I keep thinking about how he went. I believe it was to Athens. And he sees all of these temples and all of these different gods and rather than going on a rampage. He found the common ground. He found the common ground. He says I perceive that that you are very religious. Let me tell you about this unknown God that you have honored. Let me tell you about him and I wonder if we could get that in our heart. He totally followed the roar method. I love him. I know see. He's probably going to go girls. Yeah and and I think that that's honestly what the world is longing for. Because as certain as they want to appear in all of their rejection of Jesus they still long for something more in if we can find that common ground but I keep thinking we as adults we need to learn this stuff so that we can share it with the next generation and you guys have just made it so accessible. You keep mentioning. You have different girls. That have different Different chapters that probably specialize in that particular thing which I love. It's not just coming from one viewpoint But from a lot of research. And what would you? What would you say for that woman is like? I don't think I can understand it. My my eyes are kind of glazing over already. What if I can't get it? What do I do then? Hillary first thing to do so go even. If you don't want to buy the book go to Barnes and Noble and get the book or just look at the book and go to Chapter Sixteen Chapter Sixteen effort. This is the advice that I give in fact I bet. The book confronted me Open here this is what I the advice that I give to anyone when they say oh. I'm feeling overwhelmed. So the Chapter Sixteen is titled How to take all this information roar like a mother and so we have personal messages from every single. One of the imams here that That contributed all the contributors Pick one pick ts here. She says my biggest encouragement is that you be kind and gracious to yourself as you digest all the information. You've just read. This may have been the first time. You've heard some of the terms in this book or to think more deeply about the issues. We have dressed and that's totally. Okay instead of beating yourself up over what? You don't know something I'm prone to do. If I'm not on guard be encouraged that you are learning. You're choosing to love God with your mind. Which isn't always easy in so she goes on. We have in. I think Lisa talks about in hers. Says I'm always amazed at how God takes the one thing. I studied last week to help. Answer the question from a friend or loved one this week and so it's this idea of do what you can with what you've got and when you start feeling overwhelmed good chapter sixteen for just a reminder that it's okay to go slow it's okay to sometimes feel a little bit overwhelmed. That what you're doing matters and you don't have to do it in one fell swoop that just Yeah it's okay to do sized Chanson. I really do think that this book makes it bite-sized and that that is one of the compliments. I've gotten the encouragements that I've gotten from. This book is how accessible it is in how easy of a read. It is at the same time being very informative so we really tried to take these concepts in just put him in a really non intimidating way but the second you start building dated flipped chapter. Sixteen and get some encouragement. And then just keep going. I love it will. Sometimes I think we need to live with things a little bit too and turn them over in our mind because there's a lot of us that really haven't we haven't even really thought through our Christian Sanity and an I have found. I can not give away what I do not have and in so if I can give myself time to really think through an even and maybe even allow myself to have some objections. A lot of us haven't even thought through our own objections and as we do that. I think we come up with that reason. Faith that foundational faith that lasts well as we close. I just wanted to thank you. I WANNA thank you for being willing to do the hard work this is not lifting what you guys have done and and and I think I think you know we talked before we went on. The enemy does not want us to be reasonable. Well-thought Christians he wants us to be reactionary or he wants us just to pull back and be and like you talked about all kind of operate from shame and I won't talk about it. I'll just hold on until Jesus comes and in were missing this opportunity to share this most precious treasure. We really do have the good news. We have the news at the world. Needs to hear and and I love that you're You're giving us well-thought reasons to share with people. Who whether they know it or not are very very hungry for the life that only Jesus can give yeah as we close Can you just tell us? Where can we find more? I know you guys have a podcast. What are some of the sources you have available? Yeah so we've got Just on the Momma bear apologize website and I always like to specify it's m. a. m. a. It's so funny. The number of variations of Mama. I've had people at me like I had no idea. I was like IMO in May. I'm like Museum of modern so yeah M. A. M. Ing a bear apologetic dot com. And so we have articles where we're I'm trying to do kind of focus on series in terms of instead of just doing single blog post baby having a series it's addressing certain things so we have the series from Lindsey met It's going through world religions. I have a series right now that I'm doing on the gingerbread curriculum which is basically the LGBTQ plus gender curriculum. That's being introduced into schools as young as first grade where it divides a biological sex from gender from gender expression from sexual orientation. It's like it's this. I mean first grade just got real confusing but just kind of talking about each one of these aspects and Kinda helping parents address that with their kids so anyway. We're trying to do series on blogs we're trying to do some more series in the podcasts. A starting up soon. We're going to be having a series on the Richard Dawkins Book that's aimed at kids called outgrowing. God we're GonNa be talking about those basic atheist starkey moments that that are being thrown at kids We have something that we do occasionally. Which is the audio apologetic blog. Just find article that we're like do. This is a really good article. We'll just read it for you because sometimes you don't have time to sit down and read but you have time for a five to ten minute little little article so we have all of those and yet in the. Momma bear apologetic spoke. I just encourage women not only to read it but to start a group together every single woman that I known that his star reading this book has said the same thing all. I WanNa do this with a group because we do have discussion questions at the end of each chapter. And they're not like those. Oh just regurgitate what I told you Kinda of questions. They're the kind of questions that actually facilitate discussion. That really make you think deeper about what you've been learning and it's just fun to do it other women so yeah those are so my recommendation. That's great that's great. Well thank you. So Much Hillary for this time it has been so so sweet. Thank you for all you do. Please give your team our deepest gratitude. I will thank you so much for having me on and this is this is a really fun to podcast. I enjoyed it as well. God bless you Break Fred? Thanks I hope. You were encouraged today to dive deeper into your faith to not be afraid to wrestle with hard questions but to really think through what you believe especially with your kids you can find the link to Hillary's books as well as her excellent resources over the show notes Joanna Weaver Books Dot Com forward slash zero. Three three I so appreciate Hillary's tweet us to be able to give an answer for the hope that lies within us because you guys we have world that desperately needs to know the good news of Jesus Christ if you're new to the podcast. Hey why don't you take some time this summer? And go through the archives. We've got some wonderful past episodes. You can find them over at my website as well as on. Itunes spotify stitcher anywhere and everywhere. Podcasts are played. And if you enjoy what you hear it would sherman a lot if you take time to leave a rating or review. I you know what I'm doing with my favorite podcasts. I'm subscribing that way the episodes just automatically show up where I listen. It's our that the living room. Not only encourages you but it quits and empowers you and your faith and your in your walk with Jesus because you guys there's nothing more winsome more beautiful than of life. That centered on him. Living and lovey and leading light cheese. 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The Ocho: Final thoughts entering the Green Bay game

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The Ocho: Final thoughts entering the Green Bay game

"I want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds. Check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior fan none of the in what world welcome to another episode of the Joe presented to you in partnership as always that's been nations blog on the boys dot com are Julia Know Me of course for. TB and from writer as you're humble host on the the Ocho it is a Friday October fourth two thousand nine hundred and that's ten for hope you copy that Eos and it is our last episode of the week before the big time showdown between the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay packers this Sunday on Fox Job Troy Aikman Erin Andrews America's game of the week. Mike Mike Pereira in the building in front of the show. It is going to be a rip roaring good time. 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I say that all the time because it's true and I wouldn't say unless it was true but let's let's get going with what we have to discuss to do. Do some not quite housekeeping but if you if you like me and if you do hey I like to do but I I've been busy this week a lot of things going on. I was on the United Kingdom cowboys television broadcast. It was really cool the UK Cowboys Fan group is really great lauren and Brian and everybody that does such a great job over there. They're really great if you haven't followed the UK Cowboys Fan Group they have a twitter her and they have a facebook page and I think their brand new to instagram but they're really cool and really great people at so awesome to see another cowboys are obviously America's team but it is really really great to see their following and have it be so strong all the way across the pond so they have a youtube show that they publish everywhere so I was on there. Let link is on facebook and as I mentioned the cowboys Youtube Channel if you want to look for it if you need the Lincoln me up and I'll certainly give it to you we we obviously previewed the Sundays as cowboys game in in the spirit of that I also was on espy nation is great and I love working here. and the best part part about all of our sister brother sites sites to cover every team for every sport in so acme packing company is our Green Bay packers site and they do was such a great job covering the cheese heads and I was on their podcasts Zac and Ben and so I believe that is already out it should be out. There should be a link to to the episode on Acme Packing company DOT COM on some time Friday morning. If you need a link for that hit me up we also kind of got got into the weeds when it came to this game. I know that there are a lot of cowboys fans who obviously don't like the packers so I'll have you know I took a shot at them for the two thousand fourteen. NFC Championship game name who we are but anyway so if if you WanNa hear me there you can also be on ESPN radio on Friday morning at about nine thirty if you care about that espionage nation radio DOT COM but we had a great Thursday night game seahawks. Rams really entertaining US second week in a row the Thursday night game has delivered lots of great games on week five slate couch packers certainly kind of leads that group again is it is the only four twenty five pm eastern kick so America will be watching in a guarantee you this will be. Fox's highest rated game in a long long long time entering this game the cowboys are three and one as the Green Bay packers losers of last week Thursday when I came and the cowboys losers last Sunday night game I wrote about this on Thursday and it got some some play and so I just kind of wanted to address it at espy nation will use a tool called fan pulse and it does what it sounds like. We if you WANNA be a part of pulse you can. It's really easy you get one email every week and you get get like three questions and they're generally you know what you think about the cowboys game and how Compton you feeling on the team and then there's generally like a national question which had coached they'll be fired things like that but we we measure how confident cowboys fans are with fan polls and entering last week cowboys fans were to ninety five percent send confidence level and that was actually a dip after the Redskins win concerns with a ninety six percent confidence. They went from ninety six to ninety five. Whatever maybe somebody forgot to vote but a dip all the way to sixty five percent confidence after last week's loss to the New Orleans Saints and I found that interesting you know Fan van pulls emails go out the day after the game and it does kind of feel like as the week has worn on the more people have kind of come around to the loss in New Orleans and I again I'm not saying it was a good thing by any means but I think there is a large sector of people especially nationally that have just kind of lumped it up to hey it happens. You know whatever I mean. The teams are going to lose games. I mean look at the rams. I mean you know as we sit here and talk. The rams have lost two in a row and one of those games at the bucks. I mean you know so I mean you're you're not gonNA Kellen. Moore said this on Thursday when he met with the media. You'RE NOT GONNA go sixteen and home the cowboys yesterday lost to a team did not have drew brees but they did not allow a touchdown and my point point all week long we did a youtube video on this so if you're in the mood to subscribe to stuff go subscribe to the blog on Youtube channel as well but I mean and I've said this in various ways here on podcasts think about all the weird crap that happened all right. You had alcohol Dak missing Cobb in the end zone a weird thing but I mean that's not weird intersects but you had the Jason witten fumble. You had the Zeke sort of fumble you had the two Amari Cooper offense at passenger place. You had the fact that you know the cowboys always really deviated from who they were offensively and then you had the longest ever for the saints although I still think if you watch that play over and over again there there's no way that the saints don't have at least time for a field goal so I don't think there's anything to really sort of make a big deal about there but my point is all these he's crazy things happened and the cowboys still lost by two and still didn't allow touchdown and still we're in position to win that game mm-hmm. I mean so if you can play like absolute crap and I think that we all think that that's kind of what happened the cowboys and you still only lost by two in one of the most intimidating venues in the NFL. I think that says a lot about your team I really do. I think that says that you're on your worst day. You can still compete with a very good team the team that beat the seahawks. We just saw beat the rams. I mean again there. Are there are no good losses but this is if you told me if if my football team had to lose a game cowboys loss to the saints or the way the rams loss of the bucks already said this earlier in the week or even the way the rams loss of the Seahawks I would rather lose the way to cowboys always loss to the saints because you can make an argument that they should have won that game and I think what's interesting about Sunday's matchup is you can certainly make that argument when it comes to the Green Bay packers. I I mean they should have won their game against Philadelphia Eagles last week. If they hadn't gone cold in the red zone they probably would have and so I think the confidence and really adjust temperature for the cowboys doesn't need to be down at sixty five percent. I mean we are still talking about a very good football team here and a team that is I think going to beat the Green Bay the packers everywhere I've ever done this week. Everyone's asked me for a prediction. I do think this is going to be a close game. I think I think this is going to be the game of the season so far and and I said that before there's football but this has the chance to be something really special. I think just given a great episode of television. You know what I mean and you just go into a game of thrones is a bad example. Give her the way it ended but you would typically go into the penultimate episode of Game of thrones season and you would note this is going to be amazing and that's Kinda. How packers always feels especially. If it's you know Sunday afternoon buck and Aikman and all this stuff so I think there's reason to be optimistic certainly when it comes to that but there's a lot to this game certainly that is within the details and that has to do with match ebbs and that has to do with you know offense and defense and whatnot so let's take our little quick break because we have to we have to pay the bills and then we're going to discuss why we think the cowboys we are going to win this Sunday against the Green Bay packers we will be right back after award from our sponsors. Check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts for behind the scenes. Look all the action of the show and more with your favorite competitors listening. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast of injures of college football podcast it says in the script onto riff on what that means and base excuse me so every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously really as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP okay so we all agree and nod your head if you agree knock on wood if you're with me to quote every single person on twitter that shot knocks the cow going to beat the packers cool glad you agree. I thought that something was interesting Aaron Rodgers during his session with the media this week to the local media in Green Bay had had a lot of interesting things things to say really spoke for sixteen minutes but he was asked specifically about the cowboys defense and he said it's a very athletic sideline to sideline indefens- you have speed all over the field they have to really three fantastic linebackers with Sean and too young guys who are playing so well. The Front is very active to pass rushers instead. Excuse me inside. They're doing coach. MANELLI has taught for years a lot of lines dunfermline movement to combat not having three hundred forty pound guys inside and the back ends playing really well well so it's a sound defence. It's not extravagant but they play their defense from really well. Their coverage has been tight and they've been slowing some people down for sure now a lot of people when I tweeted this out got hooked on the fact that Aaron said that the defense was not extravagant if you watch the interview. I don't think that was an insult at all. I mean it was actually quite complimentary but I think that the speed of the cowboys defense is a prevalent factor and I think that speed is everywhere and I wrote about this this week I think Robert Quinn is the the necessary speed and the necessary piece. We talked about that. We had a whole like Robert Quinn episode on the PODCASTS. I mean that gives the cowboys a level and appear really specifically really of speed that they haven't had against this particular quarterback and I think that when you combine that with demarcus Lawrence when you combine that with the fact that late in Vanderbilt is thinking about that the cowboys have never played Aaron Rodgers with late advantage on their team. You know I mean that is a big deal and the fact that it looks like Devante Adams. I mean we're recording this late Thursday tonight. So I mean you know maybe you're listening to this Friday evening or something and something else change but at the moment it looks like Devante. Adams is not going to play that really kind of changes. There's I mean so you have all of this speed on the cowboys defense and who's going to beat that I mean that's that's kind of where I'm at. I mean Geronimo Alison Marquis Valves Scanlon. I mean Jimmy Graham who's who's GonNa conceivably beat the speed of the cowboys have on defense for the packers on offense and I know that Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers and so you have to account for that and you have to assume some level of opposition simply off of the fact that this dude is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever live however I mean he really he does not have you know all all of all of his abilities all of his weapons all of his toys and so I think that you considering that Michael Gallup is also on pace. I used to play and another that is still. Maybe not one hundred percent locked. I just I don't know how the packers go shot for shot with the cowboys. I do not think that you want to do that. I don't then he wanted to get into a game of taking shot for shot with Aaron. Rodgers 'cause that's typically a death sentence but I think if it did come down to that I I do think that Dak Prescott can outduel Aaron Rodgers as weird as it is to sort of frame it that way interestingly enough. I've said this few times I said it on. Every show is on this. The subject of outdueling this game is coming on the six year anniversary of Wind Peyton Manning Tony Romo had their duel and many people believe myself included that Promo outdoors just had one ill-timed interception. Thanks some friendly fire but I mean something interesting about that and you know how how I try to look at numbers and interesting coincidences and things like that that was Peyton Manning's sixteen seasons I mean he was clearly already won a super bowl. He hadn't won the second one yet obviously obviously but you know he was. He was the guy I mean. He was the elder statesmen. There was no question about that. Antonio had been around for a while at that point. I mean that was two thousand hasn't thirteen so that was. Romo's you know what seventh season as the starter season if you WANNA call it but I'm Aaron. Rodgers is in his fifteenth year think about that I mean he is almost as old now as peyton manning was in that Broncos game that's kind of crazy when you think about it and so this kind of feels feels the the fact that it is on the six year anniversary of the Bromo Peyton Game Kinda feels like Dax moment you know to take on the established Sheriff Payton's name but you get my point. That's the king of the castle the Dude on top of the mountain this kind of feels like that game. Dak and I feel like an all at least on paper sets up for him. You know you consider the fact that Michael Galp. We'll be back. Amari Cooper is obviously a very very very relevant factor although Jay here Alexander Goodness Gracious. That's that's that's the one thing that can wreck this game. I think and watching what happened in the Thursday night football game what the NOPE offense a pass interference call against Brandin cooks and I know Pete Carroll challenged that and the seahawks ultimately lost challenge. I did not see a difference and that's just me. It's just my eyes and granted. I I don't have to wear glasses but I have a pair of glasses and optometry said optometrist's my Thomas who said that I should wear for them like late in the evenings. If my eyes are tired so my vision still great still twenty twenty but according to these is I didn't really see a difference between between what Brandin cooks did in Seattle what Amari Cooper didn't New Orleans either Amari Cooper offense for what it's worth this pass interference place that we're at today's. NFL is so oh confusing and nobody knows what it is anymore. The challenges make it all the more convoluted and complicated but my point with all of that was in a very sort of underrated way. Marshon lattimore took over that game. I mean he he did. Marshon lattimore was responsible for the two ovens a pass interference penalties the Mark Cooper had I mean you know that was that was big. I mean in many ways that was the difference maker we kind of use that in our list of your crap and Gye here Alexander can have that effect I mean he is developing into one of the NFL's premier cornerbacks and so he has the ability to really affect an influence. Maybe maybe not Amari Cooper specifically but certainly a large element of the cowboys passing attack and so that's where Michael gob comes in. I mean you know I won't even say and I think you would agree that. The cowboys boys you know. Aerial attack was stifled only New Orleans the first half against Miami which was the first half the cowboys play without Michael Gallup. I mean that was I don't WanNa say pedestrian but there was concern and obviously the cops came out in the second half and dominated everything was fixed but and so I mean having having the ability to gain separation is huge right I mean and so especially when you go up against an elite cornerback and that's what I hear Alexander is now and and so Michael Gallup's presence really I think helps mitigate that factor and that's why it's just so hard to pick against the cowboys from me and I think also you look at it. You know I I mean. I don't think I wouldn't endorse this but I think it's possible the cowboys running all over the packers. This does have the flavor of a big game name especially if if Green Bay is focused you know because it's greatest or he Alexandra darnold savage is not a bad football player. I mean they're secondary is good. I mean I know Kevin. Kingsman kingsman on the practice reported injured. Excuse me and so I mean that is something that bears watching but my point is that secondary is good so you might have to focus on running the ball and I know that there's no tarrant Smith. you know when people have asked me what my biggest point of concern has been for the cowboys. I've said Connor Williams but this could feel this could be Zeke game. You know a big game. When was the kind of goes off and goes off as a heavyweight to put it but a game that Zeke takes over in Ezekiel sees the cowboys? Come out on top and so my sort of if you WANNA call them keys to victory. I wouldn't even call them. They're more like like fobs. You don't need the on the car you just need the FOB to press the button Qahira Alexander limiting him. I mean I think if you beat John Alexander. You Win the game. I know that sounds so simple but the Alexandria is one. I think Connor Williams the other. I think the most important player on the cowboys on Sunday is kind of because if that is disrupted I mean who forget which he'll zander's doing outside Reid if Connor Williams cannot hang you know it's going to ruin what Cam Fleming's trying to do and I mean the whole system's. GonNa fall apart. I think it's fair to assume that Travis Redder. We'll have a bounceback game obviously did not play well in New Orleans but Connor Williams a lot of hope rests on his young shoulders especially with tarrant Smith out and so Mola we'll see what he's able to do but I got cowboys over the packers something close man. I think twenty seven twenty six twenty four twenty three. I think it's it's GonNa be going to be pretty stressed out. I'll say that it's it feels and it should be that way right. I mean it. It should be that intense and that's why we've been looking forward to it all week long so so yeah so if you if you want to you can certainly circle back and check out the episode of UK. Cowboys TV. I was on there. It's about twenty twenty twenty five minutes. the ACME packing company PODCAST. I was on there talking packers and if you're listening to this before nine thirty. Am Central Time on Friday. you can head over to explanation Dot Com and hear me at nine thirty although I also believe that they archive everything so if you're listening to this afterwards that they're good good chances that there's a link for you. Listen to that as well but of course beyond everything make sure you're subscribing right here to the block of the worst podcast food because if you like listening to me on on all those other things if you like listening to all of you to cause a lot of our guys make appearances elsewhere. I mean you might as well subscribe here because here you got to hear all the time you get so many podcasts speaking of besides this episode of the show on this glorious Friday you will get an episode of the 750 with myself and Tony Casillas Good Times Times man this is this is a a cowboys packers game in October. I mean you know that feels. That just feels right so I hope you enjoy hope. You have a great weekend and whatever you've got planned I. I hope it's just hope it's everything you want and more and I hope you have a great time and get yourself ready for Sundays and good foods some good time. Some good people good company any and hopefully some good results because you deserve it. I mean I want the best for you because I know in my bones that you deserve so with all that being said Ed Magnon on my friends is always go cowboys and peace out the back

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ARRL Audio News - June 14, 2019

ARRL Audio News

08:34 min | 1 year ago

ARRL Audio News - June 14, 2019

"This is A R L audio news your weekly summary of news highlights from the world of amateur radio. If you retransmit audio news through a repeater, listen for the Morse code k character followed by four seconds of silence. That your you to stop transmitting so that your repeater timer can reset. I'm Steve for WB eight. I m y and these are stories for Friday, June fourteenth Carl Pereira is on Simond emerging wireless. Power technology and the associated applications came in for closer scrutiny during the May June beating of the international, telecommunication, union radio sector study group one and it's working parties. Participants wrapped up seven days of sessions in Geneva on June seventh with the International Amateur radio union region, one president, Don bady G three BJ representing the I a r u. The primary concern over wireless power transmission technology centers on its interference potential. The I a r you has submitted. Formal studies on the impact of wireless power. Transmission technology on the amateur service and these have been incorporated into a single completed report and will be the basis of a new recommendation now being developed I a are you says it's advocating proper emission limits to protect radio services and is working with other spectrum users added, ministrations, the it's concerns last October A, R L filed comments with the FCC opposing a petition for rulemaking filed by several vehicle. Manufacturers, the calls on the commission to adopt field strength limits that will allow higher power wireless charging technologies operating in the seventy nine to ninety kilohertz range to accommodate what the petitioners called next gen. Ration- wireless power transfer for electric vehicles popular amateur radio contest, logging software N, one m logger plus has a new website at WWW dot N. One m dot com changes to the new site include fewer pages better. Search capability and comprehensive easier to use listing of all supported contests and expanded menu eases. Navigation to the desired page directly from dropdown menu. All of the loggers more than four hundred supported contests are contained within one table, that can be sorted searched and filtered. Dominica news online reports that four hand-held amateur radio transceivers have been donated to the Dominica association of persons with disabilities, allowing its members who have received amateur radio licenses to get on the air to Swedish members of the Dominica amateur radio club handled the presentation during an interview with B S radio association, executive director Natalie Murphy, expressed her gratitude for the donation amateur radio played a major role in the response and recovery on the island nation in the wake of hurricane Maria in the autumn of twenty seventeen. The winning article for the June twenty nineteen Q, S, T, cover plaque award is HFS magnetic loop for eighty through twenty meters by John Chapple, w three h x and addition to winning the cover plaque award for the June issue. John's loop design earned an honorable mention in the twenty eighteen Q S T antenna design competition, the Q, S T cover plaque award given to the author or authors of the most popular article in each issue is determined by a vote of a r l members on the Q S T cover plaque poll webpage. The perseverance DX group team planning the twenty twenty d- expedition to the Orkney islands when use the call sign VP, eight stroke, VP, eight, D X, you the team reports that radio and untended strategies are complete and that work is underway on detailed project plans. Ella graft will provide k three s. Transceivers as well as amplifiers and Panna. Doctors for the adventure. The team has scheduled a tent weekend in July to check out the three tenths acquired for the expedition. Brian bird and X zero x of Duluth Minnesota as been named the new custodian for CQ magazines. USA county's award. The appointment was affective, June first bird, succeeds, Ted Mellon, Oscar K, one b v who served as USA county's award custodian and see q awards editor for twenty one years. CQ said several updates to the award. Rules also take effect on June. First, and finally, the Kuwaiti telecom regulator has made available a secondary amateur radio allocation of five point three five one point five to five point three three six point five megahertz to Kuwaiti amateur radio operators, the Kuwaiti allocation falls. Under IT you footnote, five point one three three b which in the case of Kuwait means a maximum power of fifteen watts. The first Kuwaiti ham on the new band was Muhammed nine k to NO operating. F. T eight. And now with this week, satellite update, here's Bruce page K K, five DO now. And then I get asked some really good questions. One such question. Is there anything that can make it hard to work the satellites? We all know how rain clouds can affect your satellite. TV picture can rain clouds hurt your satellite operation as well. I have not found them to be a problem on seventy centimeter and two meter. However, if you start moving up in the band to two point four gigahertz five gigahertz, or even if we get to ten gigahertz, the answer is, yes, they can what about trees, a lot of foilage on trees can act as attenuation of your signal, especially when wet both signals to the satellite. And from the satellite. However, one tree in particular can be a real problem. Pine trees, take a look at the length of those pine needles now. What them as would happen during a rain. You guessed it a big attenuation of the seventy centimeters signal. If you're receiving seventy centimeters signal from the satellite, you might wanna try a mass Mounir preempt to help overcome the loss. Fortunately, the trees may not block your entire pass, and you will be able to work the satellite when it is a bit higher than your trees. This is Bruce page. K K five DO for the WROL audio news. This is the a r l audio news. Propagation forecast for Friday, June fourteenth or entering the summer doldrums on the h f bans when noise levels are high and propagation is mediocre at best. None of this has helped by the fact that the sun is still without spots. The good news though, is that strong geomagnetic disturbances should be few and far between over the next several days on VHF and UHF six meters is still hopping with some saying that this may be one of the better sporadic e seasons in recent memory, the California coast is still hot onto meters, and up conditions are likely to remain very good throughout the California coast, and well up into Washington state into next week and that concludes a our audience for this week. Our thanks to all contributors to this week's report, a R L audio news is produced. By the American radio relay league the national association for amateur radio. For more information on amateur radio or the a r l visit us on the web at A R, L dot ORG. You can also find us on Facebook and Twitter by searching for a r l if you have a question or comment about a r l audio news. Email us at audio news at eight are L dot ORG. This program is copyright a r l all rights reserved seventy three and thanks for listening.

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The Abortion Divide

FRONTLINE: Audiocast | PBS

56:38 min | 1 year ago

The Abortion Divide

"Thanks for listening to the frontline audio cast the enhanced audio version of our television documentaries. But we wanted to take a moment to remind you about frontlines. Other offering a podcast that produces original documentaries made for listening. It's called the frontline dispatch, and you can find it by searching frontline dispatch in itunes or wherever you listen to podcasts. But back to the frontline audio cast here is the audio cast of the abortion divide broadcast, April twenty third on PBS. Three decades ago, frontline told the story of Pennsylvania community divided over abortion, and this is a life size model of a fragment uterus. Now, we return to Gemini a conflict that has only escalated we realize where we're going to outlaw abortion that we have to be able to help women who feel that surly alternative after here from women coffin the middle because I'm a mother I'm not supposed to be doing stuff like this rate. It's not that simple though, as the battle continues. There was the sense that women's simply can't make moral decisions on their own the state has to intervene and and tell them what to do twenty four hour waiting intimate. Look at abortion, the people on both sides. This is lily a life and death decision and ask a mother think about it for twenty four hours is very reasonable. And the struck of a complex choices. Some patients are like I don't wanna be doing this. But it is the right choice for me only. They know what they should. Tonight on frontline the abortion divide. Frontline is made possible by contributions to your PBS stations from viewers like you. Thank you. And by the corporation for public broadcasting major support is provided by the John D and Catherine T MacArthur foundation committed to building a more just verdant and peaceful world the Ford Foundation working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. Additional support is provided by the Abrahams foundation committed to excellence in journalism, the park foundation dedicated to heightening public awareness of critical issues, the John and Helen listener family trust supporting trustworthy, journalism that informs and inspires the housing Simon's foundation, unlocking knowledge opportunity and possibilities. And by the frontline journalism fund with major support from John and JoAnn Hitler. Tonight's program contains mature content, which may not be suitable for all audiences viewer. Discretion is advised. Producer and narrator Marco been house thirty six years ago. I spent weeks in Chester Pennsylvania, making a film about abortion for frontlines. First season. It was ten years after Roe v. Wade tonight on frontline for the first time on American television, the experience of abortion. This vacuum cleaner type to the baby's literally pulled apart. This is the story of the anguish of four women to decide to have their babies. And to choose to come here. Clinton. The film revolved around the reproductive, health and counseling center. Women who came to the abortion clinic spoke about their decisions. Can you tell me why you chose this option as opposed to the other ones? Do you know what they are? You don't know what your options or we'll keep an adoption. I know if I went through to nine months, I would've kept it. Then it wouldn't ahead to life a good life because I can't support myself yet, and I won't be able to handle being a single parent on my end. Those in the community who steadfastly opposed abortion and the clinic's existence marched outside girls coming here on Saturday morning to have abortions, we pray for their babies and for them. And we also pray forty forty abortion this maybe some of them don't realize what they're doing. That's forget transparency. Last year, I returned to Pennsylvania once again to a community that is today even more bitterly divided over abortion than it was thirty six years ago. The conflict may be decades old, but one thing has not changed women facing unplanned, pregnancies still confront the same urgent and sometimes wrenching decision. The original clinic from the first film merged with another clinic that now operates out of this unremarkable building in Philadelphia. There are no signs for the clinic. But there are always protesters on the streets outside. How many babies are killed here? Now. The Philadelphia women's center began providing abortions in nineteen Seventy-three as many as six thousand pregnancies year are terminated here. And do you have any children? Three hours. Dr Rebecca Mercier has been an abortion provider for eleven years free kind of woman gets abortions women who are young women who are old women of all races. Women of all religions women who it's their first pregnancy. Women with lots of children women who never thought that they would be seeking an abortion. We see all of them. Here. The clinic operates five days a week on some of the days. We were there there were as many as sixty patients. Dr Lisa Pereira has been an abortion provider since two thousand and three patients are so thankful and appreciative that they can come somewhere and be treated with dignity and respect because they're making choice that is there's to make any children four. Any stillborn? Any miscarriages? Have you ever had an abortion for one Shahara was his my choice that I'm doing 'cause I don't wanna bring another job until we're not financially stable Murray strictly with four and a half. So I'm not sure what my of option would be. But if this wasn't actions, I know I'll be shrugging. You can take your. Most of the women we approach to be in the film declined. Those who chose to speak like Shahara and Taryn told us they wanted their stories to be heard Taryn had unprotected sex. Just one time with someone that had been seeing. And I thought well, you know, surely one time, you know, I would just get sort of a grace period on that my head essentially talk myself out of the fact that I was pregnant have you ever heard of? Have you ever heard of Notre zone? I don't think so a little bit of gel a little bit of pressure a camera on it gives me a nice clean. Look inside the uterus. I already have two small children a six year old and a four year old from a previous marriage, and I'm recently single, I have a corporate career. And so I decided that the best thing for me to do at this point in my life was going to be to terminate the pregnancy. So you're overcome. Privacy slice. Oh twins. Wow. Okay. Ventured one five point four zero five weeks and four days and when the five point six. Okay. So I'm gonna do your are. Sure. This to Jenny thing in your decision today. And it doesn't have anything on this survey things. This is the position that I ever thought it would be my initial thought was I should tell no one about this. Right. Like, this should just be. You know, a secret that I that I take to my that. I take to migrate because it'll change how people steamy fundamentally or people will judge me for this. Back. Right. We are just over a cow. Another patient. Christine has an ultrasound. I'm seeing something. Resembles. Another sake twins. Some of them. So what does that mean? So like. The procedure. The same different. Feel so different. Feel the when she said there were twins wasn't prepared for that. At all. I didn't even consider the possibility. It's not a rational thing. If out. A little different. It's completely does you got your six weeks right now, which have plenty of time? Do you feel like if you guys went home and thought about it for like even the few days and be sure that this is what you wanted to do like that would give you more time to think about it. Like, I want you to be certain that this is what you wanna do Christine's partner mica double. Oh, yeah. For sure it was. We're not taking this lightly at all I want you to be guys competent and always risk. It'll come back on Tuesday. I appreciate that. And I. Force. Our son couldn't do it. He is on the spectrum non specific autism more leaning towards Asperger's. He doesn't like to interact with humans a he doesn't like children at all. I think that this has a lot to do with noble. A lot to do with my son. Meghan. We've been married for five years we have to in that were very planned. One is four starting preschool. The other is to just turn to and be found ourselves unexpectedly pregnant. You know, motherhood is a huge part of my identity and. It wasn't an easy decision to come here today. But it definitely was necessary. We just bought a house, we're recovering financially from that. And Swiss just not the time not a good time. Her husband, Charles under up, Catholic and. You know, they they kind of teach you very young. And I went to Catholic school to you know, this wash wrong shouldn't do it. Although all that stuff. No one's going down to the corner store picking a an abortion, like they're picking up a pack of cigarettes. It's not it's not that easy. Joe's. Pressure. Okay. Six weeks one day. I wanted to look at the screen, but I didn't want to look and. I don't know. I feel like being a apparent already has made it kind of an even more difficult thing. And even more reason, you know, for some that I shouldn't have had this today or shouldn't talk about it. Because I'm a mother I'm not supposed to be doing stuff like this rate. You know, what's one more, right? It's. It's not that simple though. I'm a medical doctor. This is what your baby looks like. I think you'll at least taken look at it. While you're sitting there waiting. Dr Georges IU is the Pennsylvania director of the Catholic medical association. I I met Dr is on the sidewalk outside the clinic where we shot the first frontline film thirty six years ago. A life size real size model. Of a pregnant uterus. Ten weeks from conception as a matter of fact, you and I wear once this is an even smaller. So that's the first victim an abortion conviction as that life begins at conception, and every baby by the time even recognized that there's a pregnancy is already an individual unique human being that. And then here's where religion comes in. Who is not only unique. But the sole was survived the death. And the reason I'm explaining this to you is because Dr activism has always been rooted in the counseling of young women to reject the Boertien when we first met he was counseling as many as six women week. This is the result of an abortion at about eleven weeks with this vacuum cleaner type to the is literally pulled apart rip the pieces been killed that let's see how anybody can do that. I know that when women find out. What abortion really does? And what it's all about. There are very few really wants to do that to their baby. Okay. Here we have fourteen weeks. And now the main difference is the baby is bigger and the skin is becoming thicker. So now the baby's no longer is transparent. That's what he looks like or she what were your feelings when you found out that you were pregnant. Oh, hit the seal in early. I just wanted to forget about it. And I still doing away. So you not planning this pregnancy was not planned at all. Sir. Are you are you the father of the babysitter? Father of the baby you have a stake in this. Stand with harassing anyone. Without bottoming harassing is in the eyes of the beholder. I'm not prepared to go to jail I've been in jail over this. But I don't think I don't think this would stand up in court to go to jail. This would stand up in court would you test it if there was different circumstances? In one thousand nine hundred eighty six doctors Iowa's arrested and convicted of a felony for trespassing inside the clinic where the first film was shot. This particular time. I don't have the time to get arrested in spend that. I be. Come will be done on her. The first thing you encounter when entering the clinic is the bulletproof glass, separating the public areas from the clinic itself. In recent years have seen an increase in intimidation of patience and threats against doctors. Like, Dr Pereira who was singled out online on a website run by the group operation rescue. Not afraid of being threatened by them. But it is framed in reality. There are people that are violent toward abortion providers. Yesterday was the nursery of the murder of doctor George Tiller who was one of the idols in our community. And he was shot in his church while he was an usher on a Sunday morning. So many of us think about that. Sure. We think about that that can happen. The presence of protesters outside the clinic is a persistent reminder of the threat, Dr Rebecca mercy outside most days that I'm here. They walk up and down the sidewalk they hold their signs. The yell things at the patients. I've never seen them become filing. But everyone who works in this community should be an is aware of the threat of violence. In nineteen eighty two. When the first film was shot security was light the waiting room was relaxed and felt like a doctor's office. The staff were street clothes. Then the procedure rooms were spare with a minimum of Queant. The clinic today has the look of a hospital antiabortion groups in Pennsylvania and twenty three other states have pressed for the passage of laws that mandate abortion clinics, operate as ambulatory surgical facilities, Pennsylvania implemented regulations under the ambulatory, surgical facilities act that governs everything from the with of hall ways to where sinks are located to the H fach systems to the job descriptions, Carol Tracy is executive director of the women's law project abortion care providers have come into compliance with numerous regulations at great cost at great financial cost to the women who need abortions. And also, it's limited the number of abortion providers in this state, Jennifer Bulaq Ave of the Philadelphia women's center, we had to spend over five hundred thousand dollars on improvements. That did nothing to improve the health of our patients. Antiabortion activists see this as progress. Our most recent Bill Bush facilities restricted supply. Mike Monico is president of the pro-life coalition of Pennsylvania is said if you want to operate an abortion, so you have to meet certain requirements the same as any other amateur surgical sewing and several of them did not we went from twenty two free standing abortion. So he's down the fourteenth. Hello. My name is Dr mercy Pennsylvania requires that we give you the following information before we see you for an abortion procedure, like many, other states, Pennsylvania. Now requires that doctors read a script to inform women of alternatives to abortion and the potential risks of the procedure. Dr Lisa Pereira infection. Heavy bleeding our class in the university removal problems with future, pregnancies infertility damage to the cervix or uterus or to other abdominal organs requiring hospitalization or additional surgery for abortion. These risks are very low Pennsylvania was the first state demand. The message be delivered twenty four hours before a woman's abortion down. This is lily a life or death decision. Mike monocle, and we should be doing whatever we can to to save mothers and children from abortion to make women's think about and we make no apologies for that, Carol, Tracy. There is the sense that women simply can't make moral decisions on their own the state has to intervene and tell. Tell them what to do. I think it's pure hypocrisy. Okay. Now as far as getting you scheduled with that information session. There is a twenty four hour waiting period where gonna review your medical history. And we can get that appointment all set of member the first day of your last normal clinics. Call center is open seven days a week. And when we visited there was a constant flow of incoming calls to schedule abortions. Are you looking to do the medical of worship by pill or the surgical procedure? Dr Rebecca mercy, a medical abortion procedure is very similar to inducing miscarriage. It is safe for women to do up to about ten weeks of their pregnancy. So do you have any questions or we get you started? Mill a great procedure for women who want to feel like they have control over the procedure who wants to just have everything happened in the privacy of their own home. The drug mifepristone are you for eighty six was approved by the FDA in two thousand. Medical abortions now account for roughly a third of all abortions in Pennsylvania. I feel you're gonna take this is the one called mifepristone. This is the stuff that makes a pregnancy. Stop growing unattached a little bit from the uterus. It gets the process started swallow it down like a regular pill. Twenty four hours later. She takes another pill called me as a process that helps to induce the cramping in the bleeding that will actually help her body. Push the pregnancy tissue out of for uterus. This is the music problem medicine gives you a little bit of the miscarriage symptoms and new you have your follow up appointment made ideal week or two, okay? That's really important because we want what I hope I feel Taryn. It's a sense of peace not only with myself and the decision that I've made but also a sense of peace with these two being that I've chosen not to bring into the world. Thank you for choosing me. And I'm honored to be given this gift of life. And also, I can't do it right now. I can't accept that mantle in terms of the other lives that I'm taking care of. And I'm responsible for Charles. I feel a little bit of guilt. But it's a feel comfortable with the decision. We made. I know. I'll definitely be sad. Mega because if things had just been a little bit different. Maybe this wouldn't have happened today. But you know, I'm confident in the decision we made. This is the medication of worship held them for prestone. I'm gonna have you swallow this to the small citgo. Much of a simple one. She will. So that's the one that starts the abortion process. Spent Dr Monique Ribeiro is an obstetrician gynecologist who frequently protests on the streets outside the women's center. Destruction of any life is a definite affront to gun. So when an abortion takes place an innocent life that has not done any harm to anybody is destroyed. I believe that that is one of the greatest sadnesses of God. But it pleases the devil. I'm an OBGYN physician, sir. She deserves to have options. I know she feels boxed in. I know you guys feel like you have to do this. We can help her. It used to be the people tried to be present on the killing days. The days when the surgical abortions were known to happen in the abortion centers. But are you forty six pill has completely changed the landscape of abortion, and it really necessitates that some? Nobody is present outside of these abortion centers every single day every hour that they're open, sweetie. If you took the abortion pill, we can reverse it. You have seventy two hours, Honey. They don't want me to talk to you. But this is information that can help you you deserve to know all of the options. Okay. Ribeiro is part of a network of doctors who cite anecdotal evidence to support the controversial practice of prescribing the hormone progesterone to reverse the effects of are you for eighty six Dr Cy you. I think there's only maybe three of us in this Philadelphia area volunteer for that hotline, so far so they call the hotline, and then you get the the women's history, and you don't even have to see her you call into their pharmacy, and you get them these high doses of progesterone which are easily available. The babysitter saved from the are you forty six do awesome. And they don't have any problems following as far as we know we can help you took the abortion pill. We can reverse it. And we've been so blessed in my office alone. We've had three reversals. It's so nice to see at the end of the road. Those moms are so grateful and so happy that they chose to. Verse. And would you like to know how far you are too? Dating nine weeks in one day. Shahara? I'm grateful down getting taken care of. I wasn't will be home China stressed out figure out what my next move is. Or my next plan is so is relief because I wasn't stress before I walked in his doors Morley. Money. Very nice to meet you any questions concerns about anything today about three minutes start to finish. Okay. This is the last part of the consent from the nurse already reviewed with you just need your signature indeed here on the top. Shahara chose to have a surgical abortion under IV sedation. The little going grind. He side has go away. IV sedation was not an option for patients at the clinic. Where the first film was shot. Patients then were awake. And the procedure was uncomfortable, even painful. Not as. Okay. Most patients opt to have a surgical procedure like Shahara, they want to leave the clinic with the abortion behind them live, right surgical abortion is incredibly safe. The woman is in stirrups we do by manual exam to feel the positioning of the uterus. I place the specula- clean off the cervix. And then place a small clip on the top of the cervix straighten out the uterine canal. The second part of the procedure is dilating the cervix which is using instruments to gently open the entry into the uterus. And then removing the pregnancy tissue using suction. It takes somewhere between two and five minutes complications are incredibly rare. Dr mercy one of the most important components of safety with abortion procedures making sure all of the pregnancy tissue has been removed from the uterus. The tissue is taken to a special room within the clinic. It is rinsed off. And it's looked at in a special dish with the little back late on it that lets us confirm that we are seeing all the tissue that would be expected for the station age of the pregnancy. And that lets us know that there weren't any complications just age of this fetus was nine weeks and one day up to nine to ten weeks. It's just a small little piece of translucent sack tissue with nothing that looks recognizable as any kind of fetal parts after that. You do see small bits of tissue. That are recognizable as fetal tissue. From the fires of hell all. Has Lord air cry for Justice less. So lord. Hugo Danny, Greg doctor Zay of introduced me to Pat Stanton. Pat comes from a family of pro-life activists in the nineteen eighties. His late father organized the protests that take place every Saturday outside the Philadelphia women's center. Round here. It's barbaric to chop abo put it in a little canister take it out and count the pieces. That's what they have to do. Who's doing this? What kind of world we entered into where we do this to our children. Dress. Predominantly the protesters are over white males. And the patients are young women. Lynn Molter coordinates the volunteers who scored women into the clinic night. Don't understand why older white men think it's perfect for them to be. Standing at a clinic where young women come for health care be talking to them interacting with them. Sometimes touching them. What sometimes happens is the woman will get there and freeze and realize what it is that they're walking into the magnitude and the LA can be very upsetting to them. I think it's a spiritual battle myself that's between us and Satan. And I think when we do our best to follow our Lord in ten commandments. We will conquer and and bring others to our side in a loving manner. That's death. We're here to help you Stanton often tries to speak to the men who accompany women to the clinic for strengthen faith for wisdom. There's any chances come out. The miracle at this baby. Grow up to be great man in your name Jesus. Migratory. Said only wish you all not at here is if she says that it's I'm like this team that doesn't make any logical. Oh, I just can't. I don't wanna make. It seem like I'm controlling heard Chris sometimes while they need a word from you feel that the may is behind hundred percents. Nine. I'd go in there and give them one more shot and bring couple other women out, bro. Christian did go back into the clinic. But he told us later that his girlfriend went ahead with the abortion. So we know that we just have to stay the course, and we're going to be beaten up, and and and have many many failures, but we have to continue. So I would say perseverance has been virtue. That's instill by our faith. You can't be a part time. Christian fight, a fulltime devil. The clearest symbol of today's antiabortion movement is the crisis pregnancy center there were only a few operating in the early nineteen eighties. Now, there are thousands across the country. They're very well. Connected. And they're very well funded. Attorney Thomas amid us their whole existence is to persuade women who go there not to have abortions. And it it ranges from gentle persuasion to fairly coercive persuasion. There are as many as one hundred fifty in Pennsylvania, many located near abortion clinics, but unlike abortion clinics, they are not required to be licensed by the state, Mike Monico, it crisis pregnancy center is a beautiful phase at a pro-life movement that offers real help and hope women crisis, pregnancies we realize where we're going to outlaw abortion that we have to be able to help women who feel that Surani alternative. And we've provided an answer note. It's not your only alternative, and it has literally save thousands of lives every year in the foot off air. M neon is a crisis pregnancy center that caters to low income women executive director, Melanie parks. The mission of Amnon is really to serve anybody in an unplanned pregnancy. If someone is calling to schedule an abortion, I will tell them that we don't perform abortions here because I want to be truthful with them right up front, but I always say to them, but you've called the right place because I want them to know that right away that we do have services for them 'em. Neons approach is to offer counseling, parenting, classes, clothing diapers and pregnancy testing for free. So if you already tested at home to see if you're pregnant did less of Friday. Okay. What did you get and make it, but my periods lead Soldano amnio nurse manager. Laura Taber we offer painting testing, but we don't provide contraception here. We don't want people engaging behavior that's risky to them emotionally and physically we wanna encourage them to make better choices with their behavior. We realize that promised Cudi drives abortion. So therefore part of our great cause is promoting the chassis message contraception takes away natural barrier to promiscuity and promiscuity is what drives abortion. So this paper is just saying you were here today for a pregnancy test, and it was negative. So either that means you're not pregnant where you are pregnant, but it's too early to tell now you would still be pretty early. So if you haven't gotten your period when you come back, we'll retest you. Andrea come on back. Andrea is twenty two with an eight month old daughter. Test is coming up positive and -gratulations. Tell me how you're feeling about your pregnancy. Yeah. We trying to get pregnant. No, okay. So it wasn't planned. But it's okay. Your mom does she have to say about she happened? Forty most handsy was not happy. Okay. We use ultrasound as a tool for helping our clients choose life, apparently everything we're doing, okay. We set up the big screen on the wall. So that they can look up and see what's going on inside their uterus. And how the baby's growing wanna see the baby inside your uterus. We want to measure in afar long yard. Right. I do your tra- sound with her. She's talking to us says, that's my brother or sister. Okay. We have eight weeks one day, plus or minus six here. Andrea. This is your baby very here. This liquoring hear the heart beating see that. That beating heart. It's hard to then, you know, deny that there's there's a baby it's not it's not just tissue there. It's not something that's easily disposed of. The women who are happy that they're pregnant or when the fence a lot of times, they're just really surprised you can see it in their face that there's a joyful reaction some women who are may be considering abortion are kind of. Not thrilled. You know, they might be looking at it might bring up a lot of complex feelings for them. I have offered to pray with women, and I will do that. If I feel like they're open to that. And most of the time they've said, yes, I have only had a couple of people who've said, no. And here's your pictures. Them. That's really where we have an opportunity to form a relationship with the client to show them that we care about them on all those different levels. We care about you as a person as the spiritual person, and as a person with an eternal soul, and we want to be able to really show you that your loved here. Staffer them neon counsels against abortion based on their Christian faith. We met one woman who was unpersuaded and came to the Philadelphia women center. Sky is twenty three years old. And this is her first pregnancy. I just need to confirm that you're here for. You're confident in your decision to terminate your pregnancy. No one is forcing terminate pregnant. I went to Amnon pregnancy center. It's an upper Darby does bring the services that they provide are free the nurse. Did though say to me like are you sure you don't wanna just, you know, put it up for option know what I mean like she was kind of like pro-life? Listen, you know, you can come back with your boyfriend. We can talk about different options, we can do another ultrasound again, and he can look at the baby as well. Maybe change his mind with that and site. Now, let me just get this over with Al Al deal with the the pressure or sadness later. Go ahead and swallow that I'm gonna be upset about it for a little bit. I'm gonna pray probably every single night now. I just felt like I was a horrible person for the siding to actually go through with the abortion to kill a human being even though it was only like an embryo. So that was that was sad. But I go back to work sky earns less than three hundred dollars a week. Like other women we met at the clinic. She struggles to support herself. These women no longer can they are homeless most collect some form of public assistance. They're living at mother's home in upper Darby, Pennsylvania. It's a shelter for pregnant women. That's housed in. What was once a comment? How you doing today? It was founded in nineteen ninety one by a group led by Dr I being able to promise them a place to live was extremely powerful tool that gave him the courage the shoes. Life mother's home can house up to twenty women. They can stay while pregnant and for six months after they deliver the common circumstance that brings a majority of residents. Here's trauma mother's home program manager, Charlotte. Gordon this abuse. There's a lot of domestic violence. There's dragged diction their trauma. That's just overflowing from childhood things that never healed disconnected families. Our goal is to support those women who in spite of their circumstances. Still want to give birth to these babies. When women come in for the interview, they've already made the decision that they want to keep their baby they are just looking for a safe place. They're living some guy that makes to halt who said ahead into today today as you dead lines. Right. So do you have any interaction with the father child now? Okay. Get my kids kid. Oldest daughter has cerebral palsy vagus stays. In connecticut. Okay. Able to come on just don't. Okay. Thank you. Once you have the baby a lot of people forget about you mother's director Burt Risco, she can't raise that baby. If she's not healthy, mentally and physically, so there's no sense in ending their everyone can say their pro-life, but you have to to put that into like motion, you have to help the woman after she has the baby. Often the criticism that is levelled as that. We're only interested in the baby in the womb and only helping the woman until the baby left the womb. The baby was delivered. After that. We weren't interested in helping women. But that is not the case. Before he started mother's home, Dr Zaihu and his wife invited young pregnant women to live in their own home. This is the scene in nineteen eighty two we've found in the counseling that women would saying I don't really want an abortion. But if I don't have an abortion. My husband will will leave me or kick me out or my parents will kick me out to see Dr Cy Tuesday. I talked to him for like told have all bad like now that are happening. And then he told me about how my if I if I were have fired to have an abortion, how the Boertien would be performed like assault injection would be injected into my stomach, and like the baby would slowly die inside me like skin be burning away. So I said I'm just going to go ahead with the pregnancy and not come live with you. So I can get the proper care Mansi decided to put her baby up for adoption because we're not feel I feel anyway that we're not. Ready to have kids yet. Because we're not finding lease on. I want to be when I have my own be financially sound that we're going to start planning on having children and proper way. We don't wanna bring unwanted children into the world and how accused like other children. Are we want to grow? We want to raise our children up. Right. Our parents, we both can't broken homes, and I don't want my kids raising. I don't wanna feel that. I'm gonna have my kids brought a minute split up. I don't feel that way me. Larry not gonna put out for be gather forever. Question. I am ready to grace les. Lord videos is about to receive from night Christ. Voted thirty eight women over a period of fifteen years, high school students and college students overtime, we're getting a different kind of woman often we were getting somebody was addicted. Sometimes we're getting people had HIV and other problems is a little more tension in terms of trying to house them in private homes, and then the whole movement throughout the country to create maternity homes was very important. There are now seventeen similar homes in the Philadelphia area. Many were founded by people like Dr value who oppose premarital sex. When I was a teenager if you had sex with a girl, if she got pregnant at your father, you're responsible for not only the baby but her for the rest of your life or you're going to have to marry her. I would think if we still had all the nuns, and we still had the teaching the way it was we'd have fewer girls needing housi- because they wouldn't be getting pregnant. It's not a view shared by the residents, we met what many do share with Dr is his view on abortion. They rejected and for some it is a choice. They've now made over and over again. I was just kind of crazy no pregnant, no more, no way. But I don't believe in a boy Shen, so. I come from a big family. I think babies are blessed. That's what I have all eight of minds. I guess just how my family is don't none of my family believe in it abortions too of Rosie's children live with her sister five are in foster care. I need a big house. I have a lot of kids. Society has allowed women to say, it's okay to be a single mother the multiple children, very hard to blame her for it. When she doesn't know any better. Maybe her mother was that way and the whole neighborhood was that way. This is what's happened to our society? Dominic j sear whose premature like a high risk thing. I have previously had a drug Brown. Doing better than I have. Did good before. But enough done. I've done worse. Shoulder might not be the best thing. Everybody's mind. Boot that helped us a lot. So. I have four four babies. Two girls into those. They live in western Pennsylvania. My aunt has. So. So they're good. But they do call her, mommy. So I was offended at first. But understood like they needed a mommy, and I was not proving capable of doing that at the time. So. Now, we're trying again. He's for special and nobody taking us one. They may not have been able to get it. Right. The first time or the second time the third with four. But this is another chance. Me and her dad Trinity's. We partied a lot together. And we were both sent to prison when I was like eight months pregnant with her when I got out I was homeless. I was literally homeless I live down in my car for Lega week. Here we go. She has a rare condition called septum optic. This Legia it affects the hormones in her body. And then her optic nerves are also affected. It's an abnormality in her brain. I didn't know for four months. I was pregnant I was still on birth control. And I was drinking. I was smoking like living the fast life. Lo and behold there was a little heartbeat. And that's when they told me how far I was I was going to go and. Abort her. But I was literally in the chair about to get it done. And like I had to leave. I got up and walked out. And I said I cannot kill my baby. So I just accepted that whatever was meant to be would be. So just one day at a time, and I'm prepared. For whatever can happen with her. The stigmatise society says about single mothers were poor their drain on finances of the community. They've made mistakes is children are mistakes. Why do we have to take care of them? They should give their children to people. They been even advised to have an abortion because there's nothing that they can give to a child, but every single woman that comes to their door this their desire to give their child a better chance at life. Mother's home lacks the resources to follow residents after they leave the obvious question of what happens to the women and their children goes unanswered. Christine and mica made. What was for them a very difficult decision? Thank you chose to go ahead with the abortion. How are you doing today? Dr pereira. Some patients are like I don't want to be doing this. But it is the right choice for me. And it's okay to feel those emotions, it's okay. I try to just let them know. It is. Okay. Doesn't mean they shouldn't do it only. They know what they should do. Rather? They know what they should do. It's a statement. I heard thirty six years ago and continued to hear repeated today. I respect people that say abortion is wrong. But people have abortions people have babies life is complicated. Ready for? Dr mercy women are not vessels for just carrying pregnancies. They are full human beings who deserve to have control of their lives and being able to choose whether you're going to continue our pregnancy or not is a life changing thing. But the antiabortion forces I met here in Pennsylvania are unmoved by any argument for abortion. They're more organized more dedicated and even more uncompromising than they were thirty six years ago. They are committed to one goal ending abortion. No matter how long it takes Mike Monico. It's brutal and bloody. And we're only in the second or third around on this fight. This fight is going to be multi generational just as the fight in savory was. And it'll be our successors that eventually win this fight not predicting a quick and easy victory. But we will some point win. The end of the battle over abortion here in Pennsylvania, and everywhere else seems a long way all. Go to PBS dot org slash frontline to find out. How access to abortions changing around the country tonight on frontline and stream abortion clinic. The original nineteen Eighty-three frontline film by producer, Marco and house. Why you chose this option as opposed to the other ones? Do you know what they are? Options are we'll keep an adoption connect to the frontline community on Facebook, Twitter and PBS dot org slash frontline. 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