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Fresh "Pentagon" from Lars Larson
"Dental dot com. It's large license. Great to be with you. Right here on the talk of Connecticut w D R C W SNG and W. M. M W Welcome back with Lars Larson Choke famously. President Eisenhower warned about the Looming prospect of a military industrial complex, and it took a lot of people a long time to realize just how well just how problematic that could be these days. Eric Felten is a reporter for real clear investigations, and he began with reminding us about that military industrial complex by suggesting there may be something brand new. A military digital complex. Eric, It's good to have you back on the program. What do you mean by that? And exactly how is Silicon Valley getting so much influence over America's military? Large. It's a pleasure to be on the show with you again. There is a huge amount of money going from the department of Chance these days into Hi tech efforts and a lot of money going not to the traditional Beltway bandits as we know them. The Lockheed Martin's and race eons and such, but rather going to Amazon to IBM to, um Microsoft and Ah lot of them are doing important work. On. But there's also the question of just how much money is going to these organizations. These companies and what kind of, um what kind of efforts are being made to make sure that the money isn't being spent in a corrupt way. I no way that violates ethics rules at the Pentagon. And you've kind of got a dual problem there, don't you Because I hear people complain, and I think their complaints are well funded. Say, why is it on the Federal Railroad Commission? There's so many people from the railroad industry and then they go back to the instructions. Say. Well, if you're gonna have a federal railroad commission, for example, you probably have to know something about railroads. I don't know that I would make a good FCC commissioner, But maybe maybe I would. I've worked in radio for 46 years. You have to have people who know the subject matter. But is there a suggestion that perhaps the linkages between the industry which is selling stuff and the Pentagon, which is buying stuff that is people flow back and forth between those two? You don't necessarily getting Get people making the best decisions to get the biggest bang for the buck for the taxpayers. You get people saying Well, if I've worked at Amazon Web services, and now I'm.
Security officials point fingers at each other in Washington, DC riot hearing
"A Senate hearing investigating the Capitol attack, a lot of finger pointing going on based on the level of intelligence they say they've received prior to the attack. Former Capitol police chief Steven Son said. They acted accordingly. Secretary of Homeland Security did not issue an elevated Or imminent alert in reference to the events at the United States Capitol on January 6th. We properly planned for a mass demonstration with possible violence. What we got was a military style coordinated assault on my officers and a violent takeover of the Capitol Building. Another hearing will be held next week, with Pentagon officials testifying Stacey Lynn CBS News Capitol Hill another hearing today on Capitol Hill, this
Fresh "Pentagon" from Mark Levin
"3 95 clothes from the Pentagon to the crash, blocking at least one lane on 14th Street Bridge Now from Garage Door repaired calm. The W M A L L A B C seven Storm watch forecast A beautiful early evening. Get out and enjoy plenty of sunshine Sun goes down clear skies. We will track a cold front overnight outside chance of a stray shower, But it will bring us cooler conditions. So you start out on your Thursday morning with temperatures near 40 are high temperature right around 51. Maybe. See seven. Chief meteorologist Bill Kelly from the storm are seven Weather center 54 right now with Reagan. National Lima. Really fun. One. Oh, 5.9 FM. Washington's ball doubled your May l is here. No broadcasting from the underground command post from the bowels.
Capitol Police Officer Testifies: 'Things Were Pretty Bad'
"I'm Ed Donahue, Capitol Police officer testified about what happened at the Capitol on January 6th. I was advised things were pretty bad, Captain Carnation, Mendoza said. She was about to go to work when the riding started. It didn't take long for Mendoza to get into the middle of it all. At some point, my right arm got wedged between writers and the railing along the wall. CTU sergeant pulled my right arm free and had he not. I'm certain it would have been broken, Mendoza says. There was a lot of gas exposure. I receive chemical burns to my face that still have not healed to the same. Michigan Democrat Gary Peters is on the Senate committee. This is a systemic and leadership failure on the part of our security officials from the FBI and Apartment homeland security to the security leadership on the ground in capital and it must be addressed. Former Capitol police chief Stevens Sunday is casting blame on the Pentagon and the intelligence community for the disastrous failure to anticipate the violent intentions of the mob and defend the capital. Five people died as a result of the violence, including a Capitol police officer and a woman who was shot by police as she tried to break through the doors of the House chamber, with
Fresh update on "pentagon" discussed on WTOP 24 Hour News
"Have people from the current 10. Alcohol sales now cut off a 10 will be allowed until midnight on March 1st and the midnight to 5 A.m. stay at home order will be lifted in northern Virginia Christi King w. T. O p. New President Biden has announced a new effort to make masks more easily available in communities that have been hard hit by the pandemic. He says the government will deliver more than 25 million high quality masks to more than 1300 community health centers. Across the country. This will start in March. Masks will also be sent to 60,000 food banks, food pantries and soup kitchens. The Department of Health and Human Services along with the Pentagon and the AG department will be involved in delivering the Basques. They'll be free. The masks are made in America and will not affect the availability of masks for health care workers. In just one minute. We'll talk about lawmakers questioning the architect of the Capitol on security failures leading up to the riot at the capital, of course, 35 34 when choosing a talent management solution. Does your agency settle for an easy off the shelf fix? Or.
Merrick Garland testifies before Senate in bid to become attorney general
"Firm Maze ours. Judge Merrick Garland is testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee for his confirmation hearing to become attorney general. With respect to foreign terrorist attack. I was sitting in my office arriving at my office as the first planes First plane hit the trade center and I was sitting in my office and could see smoke rising over the Pentagon. I can assure you that this is top of mind for me. Merrick Garland was the Supreme Court nominee in the Obama era that lasted 293 days. He was denied with
Fresh update on "pentagon" discussed on WTOP 24 Hour News
"Bethesda more like how it used to be outer loop near 1. 23 Car fire cleared, all lanes reopened. Delays remain from the spur past. River interlude slow from Tyson's crossed the Legion bridge car was stopped in the left center lane. In the second lane from the left. They just drove off. All lines are open. They're on the interlude, but it's going to stay slow otherwise on the Beltway volume delays in Montgomery and Prince George's County 3 55 North bound from the Beltway past groaner Strathmore station, Tuckerman laying the northern intersection of talk Woman had a crash on the right side. 95 in the Baltimore Washington Parkway between the capital Beltway at airport exits. No crashes reported route 50 westbound. You're the South River. Any police action should now be on the shoulder eastbound a little heavy off Sandy point lead. It into two lanes with breezy conditions of the Bay Bridge north on route to jam out of Edgewater over the South River toward emergency works on your admiral conquered drive, where it's only been one lane getting by those cruise for quite some time. In fact, since early this afternoon, north bound on Solomon's Island Road might want to take another bridge in the district. We've sat roadwork hit four titans. North Capitol Street, Missouri Avenue Riggs Road Intersection, but the crew should be done. Freeway traffic Moderate to heavy Today east and westbound between the 14th in 11th Street Bridge and up and down D C to 95 Just coping with volume delays Back in Virginia 3 95 South, a slow roll from the Pentagon through Shirlington 95 South Extra slow traffic from knowing Tinto Woodbridge, a couple of minor slowdowns farther south, through Stafford County. In general more traffic this.
Pentagon inspector general reviews Trump relocation of Space Command from Colorado to Alabama
"A last minute decision about space command by the trump administration will be reviewed by the defense department's inspector general. The us space command was revived in two thousand nineteen after a seventeen year hiatus with former president trump initially placing the command at peterson air force base in colorado springs that was before incumbent republican colorado. Senator cory gardner lost in november and the colorado overwhelmingly voted for jill biden. The trump white house then announced on january thirteenth. A week before leaving office that the new space command headquarters would move to alabama a decidedly pro trump state. The space command runs the military's satellite-based navigation communication and missile warning systems and differs from new. Us space force launched in two thousand nineteen as a separate military
Defense secretary confronts sexual assault in military
"Video posted by a female Marine about sexual assault in the military rocketed across the Internet and into the Pentagon press briefing room today. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin promised to take additional steps to stop such
Defense Secretary Urges Taliban to End Violence in Afghanistan
"Secretary Lloyd Austin held. His first media briefing today is the head of the Pentagon, one of the questions the Middle East. He says no decisions have been made about the future of the U. S military footprint in Afghanistan, but urged the Taliban to end violence. As we move forward in our review, we will consult with our NATO allies. Resolute support partners and, of course, The government of Afghanistan. There will be no surprises. You're listening to ABC News
Pentagon chief urges immediate reduction in Taliban violence
"The Pentagon's new chief says an end to U. S. military involvement in Afghanistan depends on the Taliban a year ago this month the trump administration struck a deal with the Taliban in which all foreign troops would be out of Afghanistan by this may the Biden ministration is reviewing its next steps but for now the violence must decrease now in his first news conference as defense secretary Lloyd Austin suggested the Taliban are not living up to their commitments under the trump deal after nearly twenty years in Afghanistan the U. S. still has about twenty five hundred troops there and Austin says there will be no hasty withdrawal Sager mag ani Washington
Nearly 5,000 National Guard troops to remain in Washington DC through mid-March due to concerns about QAnon chatter
"Nearly five thousand national guard troops will remain in washington through march twelfth due in part to concerns about potential violence stemming from online chatter among cunanan supporters who suggest former president donald trump could still be inaugurated on march fourth according to the top democrats on the house armed services committee the requests for forty nine hundred national guard troops to stay in washington. March twelfth was made by. Us capitol police defense officials adding that the pentagon is working with relevant law enforcement agencies to determine what inappropriate force presence now that the threat landscape has changed in weeks. Since biden's inauguration
Thousands of service members are saying no to COVID-19 vaccine
"Million a month ago. The Pentagon is trying to find ways to increase the number of military members agreeing to the shots by the thousands. Troops are refusing to take the vaccine or putting it off. A recent Kaiser Family Foundation survey found. Military resistance is around 50%, which the joint Staff stop doctor says mirrors that of the general population. Military services say they're working to knock down wild Internet rumors about the vaccine side effects, but they do think they found one potential way to sell the vaccine. A chance to deploy sailors on ships heading to see last week. We're choosing to get vaccinated at rates higher
Biden says teachers should move up on vaccine priority list
"Lobe K Y. W News radio 8 46, now President Biden took questions from Americans is part of a CNN Town hall yesterday in Wisconsin, said the country could be back to normal by next Christmas. If People get the covert vaccine. He also said teachers should move up on the covert vaccine priority list, though he didn't say whether he thinks they should They have to be vaccinated before returning to the classroom. Your CBS News correspondent Natalie Brand, the White House announced plans to increase the amount of weekly cove in 19 doses distributed to states to 13.5 million in July will have over 600 million doses enough to vaccinate every single American governors continue to sound the alarm over it. Shortage of supply while Americans searched in vain for the vaccine. I have signed up at every website that you could possibly sign, not back. My husband and I are both high risk. So far, the Pentagon has authorized more than
Biden says teachers should move up on vaccine priority list
"Loeb, K. Y W NewsRadio 7 47. Now President Biden was in Wisconsin. Taking questions from people is part of a CNN town hall event yesterday. President said the country could be back to normal by next Christmas. But, he said people need to get vaccinated for that to happen. Also says teachers should move up on the vaccine priority list. I think teachers and The folks who work in the school, the cafeteria worker. Another should be on the list of preferred to get a vaccination. Now. The Biden administration policy is that a vaccine should not be a prerequisite for returning to the classroom. CBS News correspondent Natalie Brand tells us more vaccine doses or coming, the White House announced plans to increase the amount of weekly cove in 19 doses distributed to states to 13.5 million in July will have over 600 million doses enough to vaccinate every single American Governors continue to sound the alarm over a shortage of supply while American search in vain for the vaccine. I have signed up at every website that you could possibly sign that back. My husband and I are both high risk. So far, the Pentagon has authorized more than
Pelosi calls for '9/11-type' commission on Capitol attack
"Days after former President Trump was acquitted in the Senate of inciting the deadly Capitol attack, the Democrats still think he did. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Congress will establish a 9 11 type commission to probe the riots. The U. S Capital remains under National Guard protection and could stay that way until the fall, according to a D O D internal email obtained by Fox. Multiple Pentagon officials tell Fox News that while there have been internal deliberations, no decisions have been
Biden rescinds national emergency at US southern border that allowed Trump to fund border wall
"Biden has officially ended the national emergency that President Trump declared in order to take money from the Pentagon to build a wall along the US Mexico border. White House released a letter Thursday from Biden to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi notifying Congress that he had presented his predecessors proclamation. It was a formality by in order to halt a border wall construction shortly after he took office.
Biden unveils Pentagon group to evaluate U.S. strategy for dealing with China
"In his first visit to the Pentagon is commander in chief President Biden announced a review of national security strategy on China. Today. I was briefed on a New D O D Y China Task Force That secretary also standing up to look at our strategy and operational concepts, technology and force posture, and so much more. This is Mr Biden tries to re calibrate U. S relations with
Biden Says Pentagon Task Force Will Review U.S. China Strategy
"Biden is highlighting plans for a Pentagon review of national security strategy on China as he underscores his desire to re calibrate the U. S approach with Beijing. Right. It's called for a new test. Forced reviews strategy comes as the U. S faces increasing challenges posed by China's modernized and more assertive military. The president announced the review Wednesday during his first visit to the Pentagon as commander in chief. Defense Department officials describe the review as a sprint effort that would weigh US intelligence troop levels in the region Defenses with China and more
Biden announces sanctions on Myanmar coup leaders
"His first visit to the Pentagon today as commander in chief. This comes as defense leaders await direction from the president on possible new approaches to overseas security threats. Well, Mr Biden announced one foreign policy decision today that the U. S will sanction military leaders and family members behind the coup in Myanmar, a nation also known as Burma, We will use our renewed engagement on the Human Rights Council to strengthen the world's commitment to human rights. In Burma. President says his executive order will freeze US assets that benefit the government of me and Mara while maintaining support for the healthcare, civil society groups and other areas that benefit the people there. Directly. 10. Hackers have been
Biden announces sanctions on Myanmar coup leaders
"President Joe Biden's issuing an executive order to sanction those behind the February 1st coup data in Myanmar, the Southeast Asian country formerly known as Burma, ahead of his first visit to the Pentagon since taking office by and announce that the order against Myanmar will prevent military leaders from accessing a billion dollars in funds held in the U. S. By this administration is also working on building an international response to the crisis. Last week, United States helped bring together the U. N Security Council, which issued a strong statement in support of Burmese democracy. And this week we will use our renewed engagement on the Human Rights Council to strengthen the world's commitment to human rights in Burma in the days since the coup against Nobel laureate Aung San Souci and other elected leaders. Myanmar's military has been cracking down on dissent, but that has not stopped people in Myanmar from staging large protests.
U.S. To Impose Sanctions On Myanmar Military Officials Over Coup
"Visiting the Pentagon with the vice president, Kamila Harris. Both will underscore the historic appointment of Lloyd Austin is the first black defense secretary and mark Black history month earlier, the president announced he approved an executive order for US sanctions on individuals and entities associated with the military coup and Myanmar. We will identify at first round of targets this week, and we're also going on post Strong exports controls the Super Bowl
"pentagon" Discussed on WTOP
"To the Pentagon for schedule info visit Fairfax connector dot com Rick McClure WTOP traffic let's get this twenty four four day forecast here Samara Theodore it's going to be a wet start to the week rain expected on and off through your Monday highs tomorrow in the low fifties and breezy Tuesday heaviest rain during the first half of the day the drying in the evening highs in the upper fifties down to the upper forties on Wednesday Wednesday starting off quiet with lots of clouds and then rain moving in late Wednesday Thursday widespread showers with high temperatures on Thursday in the mid to upper fifties forty four right now on the district forty three in Quantico in forty four in Culpepper okay Samara nine fifty one DC mayor Muriel Bowser continues her campaign to expand affordable housing in the city the pressure on housing prices just continues to grow your browser told a housing event this weekend rapid changes of displaced longtime black residents in October she announced a plan to build twelve thousand affordable housing units by twenty twenty five spreading subsidized housing evenly across the city two teenagers in DC are facing charges in a break in and sexual assault in north west this happened on the edge of the Howard University campus on Girard street police say several people broke into a home about three AM Friday a woman was sexually assaulted in her own bed stolen from the home hills and I've had a cell phone bank cards in a car police arrested a sixteen year old boy in a fourteen year old boy in connection to.
"pentagon" Discussed on KNSS
"Time the Pentagon says it as new low yield nuclear warheads aboard ballistic missile submarines not everyone thinks it's a good idea they clearly are trying to send a message to Russia and second of all these weapons still remain very controversial John will still courted nuclear policy in the Obama administration low yield nuclear warheads have five kilotons of explosive power a third of the size the nuclear bomb dropped on Hiroshima Japan to end World War two I think there is a danger that we are closer to the nuclear threshold as a result of these weapons other experts see it differently the United States is increasing the credibility of our deterrent option and for that decreases the possibility of nuclear for Rebecca Heinrichs is a senior fellow at the Hudson institute we want to have multiple flexible options so that we can tailor our response to that we prevent an all out nuclear conflict will still disagrees Russia doesn't care about what we have smaller big nuclear weapons think about the fact that their conventional military can't beat our from military matters the Pentagon Lucas Tomlinson fox news the dean's list with Janice dean a Wisconsin animal shelter employee makes the dean's list for using her crocheting skills to help a cat fight it's forever home a stray cat named lady in a fur coat was brought into the Dane county Humane Society with chronic ear infections and he met Thomas the veterinarian team immediately conducted surgery on our ears but since our condition was severe they eventually opted to remove the outer layers of her ears lady made a full recovery from the surgery but staffers worried that her changed appearance would deter potential adopters that's when employee ash Collins decided to make a fuzzy purple crocheted ears for lady after ash bride lady with a number of head rubs and Kitty treats she managed to secure the sweet little bonnet on to ladies head and the results were adorable when the photos were posted of lady and her stylish new years to social media she was successfully adopted from the shelter thank you ashen to lady we're glad you found a home your purple ears are awesome Janice dean fox news the dry wood maestro proud to announce that nominations are now open for the twenty twenty white rhino will will win the coveted second annual white rhino represent more than you do I think like Jim dandy had betrayed the Republican Party today vote to take away your god right censor board Medicare expansion that a campaign like a Republican but recognize them for their for before I nominate them for the twenty twenty right right the annual right award trophy recognizes celebrates this artist touch nature of one deserving Republican in name only Kansas house or Senate women mastic readers anti growth anti freedom and anti traditional value policy those voting record is so out of line with the Republican Party platform they might as well register as a Democrat concerned citizens who wish to uphold the integrity of our body platforms are now about it and he said representative or state senator for our white right away at the end of the twenty twenty season we will avoid this highly coveted trophy to one very deserving nominee nominations may be submitted via Facebook or email to John and J. M. S. S. radio dot job brought to you by disingenuous tensions are cross again hiring.
"pentagon" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM
"Pentagon reports fifty military personnel are suffering from traumatic brain injuries following a runs retaliatory missile attack on US forces according to a Pentagon statement thirty two of those service members are back on duty after treatment eighteen were taken to Germany for additional evaluation and treatment president trump in the Pentagon originally said no US troops were killed or injured in the January eighth attack from a run but last week in Switzerland the president backtracked on the issue I heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things but I would say yeah and I can report it is not very serious traumatic brain injuries are always immediately apparent but the Pentagon's announcement shows the attack was more serious than first reports indicated the defense and Veterans brain injury center says most TV I suffered in the military are mild I'm John Lawrence nearly ten till now for members of Congress have introduced a resolution urging Major League Baseball not to follow through with their proposal to eliminate forty two current minor league teams correspondent John stillness has more to Republicans David McKinley of West Virginia and Mike Simpson of New York join with two Democrats Laurie tray hand of Massachusetts and Max rows of New York releasing a statement emphasizing the major impact minor league teams have on their communities and then eliminating them is not a solution when Major League Baseball made the proposal last year they said the teams in question had substandard facilities and that eliminating these forty two teams would allow for better pay and travel accommodations for the other players a claim that has been disputed by the organization that runs minor league baseball John stillness Washington it's nine till Robert workman has sports Tuesday in the NBA the books bush whacked the wizards one fifty one one thirty one Chris Middleton poured in fifty one points picking up the slack for the injury also that Okubo sitting 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"pentagon" Discussed on Liftoff
"It's good to be here with everybody else. Good to be with you. Could it be that listeners. On this fortnight I was looking at our little skype log and it said last seen fourteen days ago and I thought uh-huh fortnightly makes sense. It is right there in the in the skype blog. We've got some stuff talk about its budget season. Everyone's favorite season but catch tell you jason actually really enjoyed the budget topics. I used to not enjoy them but now I enjoy them because it's interesting to see how people think necessary to different things but I'm I'm glad one of US loves it because you get to do it But first we've got some preflight checklist items. We're going to start with SPACEX which just had a launch. Yeah according to this yesterday. Yeah they seem seem almost routine because they kind of are which is amazing for a space launch that not only launches things into into space but returns the first stage back and lands it but they did it again they keep doing it This the big the big thing. This time was that they were trying to catch both halves of the fairing which is basically the cover on the top that protects the insides from Aerodynamic pressure and stuff like that they pop off and I think Elon. Musk said like each a half of them each each faring half costs about three million bucks and he he said basically if six million dollars was falling to Earth. Wouldn't you try to catch it so so they have to boats which are both named with puns? There's mystery and mischief Miss Chief Puns Anyway Anyway They're both with nets. Their boats with big net thingies and the idea is that they follow the faring ferrings half a little parachutes they got little steering jet things to try and get them in the right place and then the boat super under them and try to catch them in their nets because that way they stay dry and they can be reused because they are Six million bucks worth of equipment anyway. They've been trying this a lot. They tried this time they were trying to catch both ferrings and they didn't but better luck next time. I think the the idea here is every single part part of the buffalo right like just every everything should be recycled. If it's possible at all in the ferrings going into the water is one of those things. Where SPACEX would really rather save that six million bucks so they're building this Boat System who knows how much the system of boats and nets costs but anyway so that part didn't work but a Satellite launch went fine and the first stage. Returning back to the ground went fine. It was just the foreign catch that they're still They're still working on awesome because their boats with these giant metal arms and big nets they look alike. But they'll get there it's It is interesting. It is a continued. Push on SPACEX as part to reuse as much as possible and This particular Falcon nine. This was its third flight. It had had one in May and then one again in July and they are they are rapidly. Speeding up their turnaround. Time between these launches you know they want to get to the point where they can the relaunch it pretty quickly and they're getting that down to just a few months each time sets encouraging that they're gonna hit. That goal are working on this. Just they continue to cycle on cycle on through the turn them around faster recycle more stuff. That's you know that that lowers the barrier of access two flight in terms of just cost just cheer cost of Gut getting things into space. It is interesting you said that it felt a little bit routine. They're they're launching so often. And then landing the Falcons. I had the exact same thought a couple of missions ago. I was like man I remember. I'd take time out of my day and watch it. Every time and the excitement of it like are they going to be able to catch it on the barge or is it going to land a land safely and it is amazing. How quickly we become used to that sort of thing? I think it's easy easy for us to talk now. About when people felt that way about the shuttle or previous crewed missions or go there just landing on the moon again but you can kind of see how the public gets used to it. We're time yeah. And that's always the issue when you're talking about spaces tried to keep people's interest up and say you know just because this seems routine. I mean that was always the knock on the space shuttle. Right is that people just felt that it was routine and then The Challenger accident certainly brought that into sharp relief. But like this this this is this is really hard stuff. It's just I think a testament to how good a job spacex is doing in this case of Getting this stuff working so Well that it feels that way But it's not easy. This is really hard stuff It's a good segue to to our next little. I think in thinking you know launching stuff into space is It's hard and the companies that try it. Don't always make it so. This is a story about a vector. It was a small launch vehicle company. Their initial rocket. I think was plant only be able to listen to about sixty kilograms. They're launching cube sat size stuff stuff right. It's not It's not heavy lift. They got started back in two thousand sixteen and their hardware development one of their Their CEO actually was one of the early team members. At spacex they had quite a few SPACEX people there they had some real talented engineers. But like you said this is is tricky and hard and they were supposed to kind of be up and running with like a full-scale launch twenty. Eighteen th they weren't able to do that we're doing test. Flights flights atmospheric testing of their rocket and they have they built their own motor which burn liquid oxygen. The SAD news is. If you're a fan I guess or if you were employed they have filed for For bankruptcy protection so August August seventh actually the company was awarded its first. US Air Force mission. Three three point. Four million dollars to launch Spacecraft for the air force but then just two days later on August night. The company announced that its funding and fallen through and they had to lay off like half their people so this is sort of part two of that that they haven't been able to turn it around. They haven't been able to secure funding and so they filed for bankruptcy protection and they're also have motioned the court they can sell their technology patents to Lockheed Martin who's interested I think particularly in their liquid oxygen stuff But it is a company that moved into this when it you know it's a very hot market very A market with quite a few other startup companies. We don't talk about all of them but victor was in that mix and they They weren't able to pull it off. Unfortunately I'll well it's too bad it's it's hard it's hard business. There's so many people try and commercial space that you know we're GonNa let's see they're not all gonna make it right like it's it's a competitive field And it's hard space is hard all around. Let's go let's go further out into space For our next prefect items. We've got a couple of fun outer solar system things and I thought I would start by telling you about storms in Jupiter's atmosphere perfect. Yeah I mean what is what is better for the holiday season than a story from the North Pole. Unfortunately finally this is a story from the South Pole and the South Pole of Jupiter. So I got it all wrong but the a new cyclone spotted by Juno which is of course swooping past Jupiter's regularly at the South Pole Jupiter now back in two thousand Seventeen Juno swoop past the South Pole and saw a very interesting site. Weird things happen in these gas giants especially and atmospheres in generally even on earth. But certainly in these gas giants weird things happen at the polls where you don't have you know at the mid latitudes of these planets you've got these cloud bands that move along but up at the top. They're you know they're they're what happens up there when there's this whole big circulating system and then up at the top thinks thinks he can get a little bit weird so a couple years ago Joe..
"pentagon" Discussed on On The Media
"It's going behind the scenes. Rumsfeld is worried the US military was never gonna be able to withdraw. And of course he was right he was right to be worried but this was something they weren't telling to the public. My other favorite snowflake as it words. It's very disturbing in. Some ways came a year later. Rumsfeld had a meeting with President Bush in the Oval Office and he had gone up to Bush and said you know President Bush. I'm trying to set up a meeting for you with Tommy. Franks general in charge of the whole Middle East and Dan McNeill. And according to Rumsfeld's memo the President Turner Rumsfeld said WHO's General Macneil and Rumsfeld said Welzer. He's the general in charge of the war in in Afghanistan and Bush responded. Well I don't need to meet with him and he walked off and that was Rumsfeld's account of it so again here. They are eighteen months into the war in Afghanistan and Rumsfeld's trying to get President President Bush to meet with the commander of all. US troops in Afghanistan and Bush didn't even know who that general was and beyond. That saw no need to sit down with him that he was completely focused on the forthcoming war in Iraq. We've talked about the parallels between the Afghanistan papers and the Pentagon papers and their obvious. So is the irony because the project was titled Lessons Learned and it certainly makes clear that in the forty forty years between Vietnam and Afghanistan. No lessons were learned or does it is the comparison to Glib and reductive or are there new lessons here. There are lessons but I think you're right. A lot of lessons from Vietnam weren't learned. That comes through loud and clear the interviews. We obtained now double the irony. Here is that the Inspector General did publish several reports from its lessons learned program in Afghanistan focusing on things like corruption an and the production of narcotics and establishing an Afghan army and these reports are very thick very detailed couple. A couple hundred pages each you know real door stoppers. Nobody reads them the written in a way that make you fall asleep and they left out all the good stuff people were. We're seeing in these interviews you know all the quotations all the remarks about what a failure. The war wasn't going into real detail about it. They sanitized all that and the public. Reports were just kinda compilations of statistics and some res and in a way the inspector general didn't learn its own lesson which was we need to be forthcoming. It's coming with the truth. We shouldn't hold back. We should level with the American people about what's really going on instead of trying to whitewash it. I can hardly believe I'm about to ask the question I'm about to ask but one thing I noticed in your stories is that if the three presidential administrations with responsibility for the Warren Afghanistan the most straightforward maybe the present one maybe not coherent or consistent. But maybe more prepared to call a spade spayed and crazy. Well No. You're not crazy now. As with everything with President trump things aren't always so consistent but I think there's no question in that president trump during the presidential campaign since he's gotten an office he's made clear he wants to end the war in Afghanistan. He wants to get out now. He hasn't been able to do data and in fact he's increased the number of troops. Since President Obama left the air war has really intensified to levels. We haven't seen since the height if the surge in Afghanistan under Obama so the war has picked up on trump's watch at the same time he's sent diplomats negotiate directly with the Taliban for the first time in there is no question he's trying to negotiate a deal with the Taliban to at least curtail the fighting and withdraws many troops troops is. He can get out of there. Greg one less thing right at the outset I called your story monumental. It will certainly be historic but it broke on Monday. By Tuesday it had already disappeared from the aggregation homepage is like Google news vanished now. I'd say it was swamped by impeachment. But the PELETON exercise bike commercial per full after two weeks with still front and center. What is happening? Well actually to be honest and the reality of the present day news cycles and short attention spans I was surprised is by how much of a cord our publication. These articles did seem to strike with readers. Now we'll people to now they move onto the next shiny thing in a day. You know. Uh Yeah I'm sure that's inevitable but I think people won't forget this. I think this was a particular moment in time. When people's perceptions wins of the war which were always skeptical of what was going on Afghanistan? I think this reinforce a lot of people suspicions and I think it will be hard for the public. I think it would be very difficult for anyone in Washington to look at the war of the same way and cast it in the same terms as they did. Prior to these Afghanistan papers coming to light. Greg thank you so much. Thank you for your interest Greg. Whitlock is an investigative.
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"If we want to proceed onwards and make the improvements that I've laid out. Yes we're going to have to continue to do what I've asked an already said. I just wanted to see if I understood your answer to Tom's question correctly. When you say that you are not losing? Are you saying that you are winning I you you know. The truth is that I feel like you know. We're making some steady progress. It's a slow win. I guess is the public. What we're accomplishing -CCOMPLISH radon over here slowly was a laugh line even a decade ago but if the press was skeptical is is it fair to say Craig that we were? Institutionally also kind of uncritical in passing these pollyanna evaluations from the government coming along. I don't think journalists were uncritical as someone who served in the Pentagon press corps for several years certainly journalists who covered the war. Were very critical of it. I think the problem is sometimes we would feel obliged to carry long. The comments from people like General Schlosser as he said them. Now I usually. We would include caveat with that we would include the context. We would note that the time General Schlosser was saying this in two thousand eight that the war was not going well that. US troops were suffering a lot of casualties that feel commanders. Were asking for reinforcements. That bombings by the Taliban were on the increase so so I think the news media in Afghanistan and covering the Pentagon did a faithful job in chronicling the setbacks and the failures in the problems what I think again is different about these Afghanistan. Papers is. It's the people who were involved in the war. Who responsible for the policy? They're the ones who are. We're finally admitting that things weren't going well that it was a disaster and they questioned the very strategy and foundation for why we were there so finally. We're getting admission from people in charge that all those things they said all along weren't true you mentioned The number of Taliban bombings cummings it seems like one of the complications of this two decade. Big Muddy. Was that success was a moving target. It were we there to a radical al-Qaeda were there to rout the Taliban to build security infrastructure bill democratic institutions to fight corruption and to empower tribal leaders to build physical infrastructure like Rosen schools modernized the civilization encourage women's rights wipe about the opium trade win hearts and minds of the Afghan populists not so much mission creep but like ten different missions. Some mm-hmm mutually exclusive. Well that's right Bob and just by you. Having to lay all those out gives you a sense of exactly how muddled things got back in two two thousand one. There was enormous public support for President Bush's decision to send troops Afghanistan to retaliate for the nine one one wanted tax. There is enormous support from around the world that mission was pretty clear to retaliate for nine one one to try and find Osama bin Laden and end to extinguish the al Qaeda threat is best we could. That mission was largely accomplished within six months in Afghanistan. The number of al-Qaeda fighters dwindled down to virtually nothing now. Many of them were killed. Many were captured and the rest like bin Laden fled the country. But we stayed and that's when and things started to go awry and in the interviews we obtained. What's remarkable again is to hear the people who were in charge of the war in charge of the policy? Admit that we we lost our way. The mission did start to creep into all these other objectives which alone or out of context might seem like noble and worthy causes. But that wasn't why we originally went in. And how would we know when we accomplished all these other objectives last forever. We're never going to turn Afghanistan end into Switzerland. There's no doubt that women are treated very poorly in Afghanistan but that wasn't why we originally sent troops and even if that did change into the mission. How long are we going to keep our troops there? I don't think we're going to extinguish the Taliban there. Such a broad based movement. That's not realistic. To to say we're going to have a victory against the Taliban what you're describing is futility how many lives and how much much treasurer have been expended in nineteen years tilting at these nine or ten windmills twenty-three three hundred. US military personnel have been killed in Afghanistan more than twenty thousand wounded more than three thousand us. Defense Contractors have have been killed in Afghanistan about fifteen hundred NATO and coalition troops have lost their lives. The Afghans have taken by far the biggest brunt of if this war fifty thousand sixty thousand Afghan security forces have lost their lives. The casualty numbers for the Afghan army and police are so high that the government keeps that number classified there were you would be so demoralizing if they put the true numbers out the number of Afghan civilians estimates are range of sixty thousand thousand. And then you know an unknown number of Taliban other insurgents but the best estimates of loss of life that have been put together are that more than one hundred sixty thousand people have lost their lives since two thousand one due to the fighting in Afghanistan and all that for only a trillion dollars arse or more or more is probably more accurate so again the. US government hasn't done a very good job of tracking. How much money has actually spent in the war? And they're probably reasons for that again. The best estimates in inflation adjusted dollars that we've spent close to a trillion dollars on the military operations nations in trying to rebuild Afghanistan. So that's the money we spent in Afghanistan for military operations reconstruction humanitarian aid. All those kind of things but those those don't take into account the indirect costs such as the care for our troops who came back wounded. And since there's more than twenty thousand of those we're going to be caring for those people people for many many years the cost of the interest we had to take on the debt. The cost of intelligence operations all these things. It's really hard to add up. But at a minimum minimum we spent a trillion dollars but the real costs are going to be many times that we didn't just go in there killing people although we killed a lot of people. We poured a lot of cash into Afghanistan of spread out among tribal leaders and various kinds of infrastructure programs and government government agencies and it had the effect of taking the smouldering embers of corrupt culture and turning it into like a seventy the alarm blaze. It did over time now. It's important to remember eighteen years of war and things have gone differently at different stages when we first swin in President Bush was reluctant to spend much. They were actually aware of the dangers of falling into the trap of being responsible for rebuilding all of Afghanistan Anderson so he tried very hard for a few years not to spend much money there and to get the United Nations and other allies to take on the task of this enormous challenge. Alan of trying to build up Afghantistan. That didn't work very well. So after the Bush administration started spending some more money because they realize that Afghanistan everything was such a fragile state the Taliban could come back and take power again then. When President Obama took office he took the complete opposite opposite approach of Bush which was okay? We didn't do enough to build up this country. We need to get the population on the side of this Nassan Afghan government government. So we're GONNA spend out the WAZOO. Forgive my description but they spent so much money in such a short period of time that people in these he's interviews we obtained said they actually did not know how to spend it they were given orders to spend spend spend people back in Washington. Didn't care what they were spending it on and as long as they could show that they had spent it there was one. CIA officer you quoted. Who's WHO said? His responsibility was to give out a million dollars. I think in cash cash in just one province every week as bad as that sounds it was actually whereas one military officer who said Congressional. Wrestle delegation came to Afghanistan and was asking how it was going were they. How were they doing with these rebuilding projects? And he said to the congressman. You're asking me to spend three million dollars a day in this Afghan district in a district society. US County. Could you do this at home. And the congressman said no of course not and he says well. You're asking me to do this in a place with mud huts and no windows. How can I possibly spend that kind of money? So that was in a way the the best description of how nuts it was that led to the problem. You alluded to earlier corruption. Afghanistan was never a place that had a clean well run government but now with these billions and billions of dollars flowing in the opportunities for corruption were unavoidable. Well maybe what's so powerful value reporting is it reveals not only what we should've known but actually did no more or less but as a society. Heidi never seem to lose much. Sleep over a faraway war in wherever the hell. That is a Stan. Relatively few American deaths compared compared to previous conflicts noble stated goals and so on Vietnam divided America Afghanistan has not Y Y. Well I think one other big difference between Afghanistan Vietnam other than the one the obvious when you pointed out which was the death toll and the fact that in Vietnam Americans were being drafted and sent over there and we're dying in very large numbers. One other big difference with Afghanistan is the start of the war. There was enormous public support for it. People understood why we went into Afghanistan because of nine one one attacks. We didn't get into Vietnam because anybody in Vietnam attacked thus so I think even though people understood the war perhaps wasn't going well. They were reluctant to make a break with it in terms of popular support because because of the memories of nine one one and there was a reluctance to question perhaps the military assurances that they were making steady progress. And you need to trust. Trust me on this and this is a war that is being fought for the right reasons and I think there's always been a reluctance to make a clean break with that. The idea I want to go back to the process if your reporting the documents you obtained obtained not from a whistle blower smuggling papers or thumb drives out the back door the Pentagon but through the legal process. Well that's right. We obtain these the old fashioned way which is through public records request and this started back in August as of two thousand sixteen by another old fashioned newsgathering way which was We got a tip. That Michael Flynn the retired army general. Who is then attracting attracting a lot of attention for his supported? Donald Trump in his dislike of Hillary Clinton Donald.
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"Of the we could party So that's sort of where things stand and that's different approaches. Silence Some support. And then you have the more or less polite approaches trying to push bb. Yeah in time to either really. Ideally we could wants to form a new government now before they go to a third electric. 'cause they're worried they're going to be blamed for it right so that's great laid out. I mean just so listeners. The the show Probably already know this because we've been covering these elections for months now but there were two national elections in Israel this year both basically ended With Prime Mister. Netanyahu tying his chief rival Bennigan's from the blue and white party but these rarely election they're different than American ones. It's Republicans versus Democrats had to head in the winners and charge. You have to form a coalition that includes sixty one of the Knesset's one hundred and twenty seats. So neither Godson Netanyahu's been able to do that so as you noted we're in this free for all period where anyone one in parliament could could do. So I mean do you think there's any chance of government getting formed in that free for all period or do you think that we're likely to see a third election you know if you ask most prognosticators miserable they'll say third election I have no idea because absolutely nobody predicted that we'd go to a second election. Let alone a third election so the idea at this period that's never been activated in Israeli political history. There's never been this. It's in the laws on the books that you can have this referral period. But they've never done it so no one really knows how it's going to shake Out At it's very clear comes down to whether or not there's enough power and muscle in the coach abortion. Sanyo out before they get to the next election. Because if not Netanyahu on Yahoo will hold a primary but then his people will leak polling that shows that Netanyahu with his name recognition and his base polls better than all his Likud could challengers and then use that to win the leadership primary and force them to go to the election with him the time that we could want to get rid of him is in this twenty one day period and the question is can they do it and nobody really knows well So a couple months ago we were having a conversation about these Israeli elections. And you know Ben and I had a conversation station where we said. Basically listener shouldn't get too excited about Benny gones. Who's Netanyahu's chief? Rival because on some key issues like Palestinian rights or two state solution. He's not much better than Netanyahu. Some people might argue is worse than some instances based on you know comments. He's made about bombing Palestinians or Gaza et Cetera. So you you know that you and I ended up having a really interesting exchange about all the reasons you thought that was wrong and I was really hoping you could just set me straight here for the listeners. About you know why guns might be different. And all the ways you think that Netanyahu has damaged Israeli institutions and the government. Yeah so I mean to put it in an American context you might be you know an American progressive ruining for sale warranty win the presidency. But you recognize that if you're placed Elizabeth. Donald Trump with John Delaney still be this massive sea change in America and for American Democracy uh-huh and think of it in terms of now. Imagine someone like this. Someone who has been putting stress on democratic institutions in Israel someone who has been appointing political cronies to positions throughout Israel whether it's run like the Israel prize all sorts of cultural institutions affecting educational curricula all sorts of different different things like that and then challenging attacking the courts and the police. Somebody like that has been in power for ten years and then replace them with somebody else who ran explicitly against all of all those things and said repeatedly over and over again we need to preserve our democratic institutions. The Supreme Court the police and we need to recognize that that is what makes our society strong long so that is an incredible incredible change. And I don't think people really if you haven't lived it. You can't really quite perceive it. I think you can sort sort of an American context in a way but when you talk to like. He's really left this now. There's light coming through the window for the first time in so long because now Israelis are able to imagine themselves in a country is not running the show where his rhetoric doesn't define what the public conversation is about because he has lost control of the public conversation for the very first time in a very long time. Think about it in terms of you know an opposition leader a former opposition leader once said to me that Netanyahu's whose prime ministership is basically the cumulative effect of tendrils of fear seeping down into Israeli society. You have this person who's going on TV. Who's incredibly eloquent and effective communicator? Constantly communicating what. You should be afraid of right and I am the only person who can protect you and tell you for example afraid of our voters and all of them are out to get you and other parties are out to get you and they are not your friends And you should be basically treating them like a fifth column. And he's been saying this whether subliminally or in recent elections How much more openly? And then you know nothing. Basically comes to a stalemate loses For the first time in actual election and he's not able to form a government and and then his opposition party the his opposition. The blue and white party starts openly coordinating a bit were the Asraeli Arab parties and this guy doesn't fall they have conversations they do negotiations nations. The Israeli Arab parties recommend on our challenger to form the next government and it turns out the polls show that a lot of Israeli voters like this. The era politician saw that the joint list party which is predominantly Arab is like a com- combination of several different parties with very different politics but polls he's really our voters show that that the majority of Israeli voters want their politicians to be in the next Israeli government. Not just the support from the outside which is actually what's been discussed. They want to be integrated. We didn't want to have an effect on Israeli political scene and the sky hasn't fallen people are talking about that as that's a realistic possibility knitting. I was fear mongering campaign in the last election and didn't work right. It seems to backfire. More Arab leaders came out and voted and not only that but you know the campaigns that ran on that platform did better. So that's one very key reason. That's reason why I think if you change out Donald Trump. WHO's WHO's appointing the judges? WHO's filling the civil service service positions? WHO's running our foreign policy right? These are massive massive changes of any democracy. That's one number two. Though is I think that sometimes gets miscast. CAST and then he gets criticized based on being miscast Ben against ran a centrist campaign with right wing. Overtones did not want to left wing campaign. If you're a leftist on Israeli issues or other issues you probably are not going to like the exact campaign Iran or all of his positions but what he did run was incomplete opposition to sort of the entire ethos of nothing now and and he ran with the with the notion that there is a different way forward for Israel and he talked about. He didn't talk about a two state solution but he talked repeatedly about peace. And you'd like one of his first campaign ads. He said as someone who's fought for Israel for years he held the top military position is all. I don't want to turn to our children down the line and say we didn't do everything we could to stop the fighting Because I don't want one more person to come home. You know in a bad and that sort of language right. Which is the security center? Way of arguing for some sort of peaceful resolution to Israeli Palestinian. Conflict is sort of. I wish that can win over a much. Broader Swath of Israel. He's than if you went up there and gave a nice owed to Palestinian human rights. which you're I might give? But he has to win a broad mandate in the country and so he's not he's not the left wing Messiah and he never never was. It isn't going to be there. Are People will say. He grew up on a left wing keyboards right. He comes out of the Israeli security establishment which tends to be more dovish after they leave office. Oh that's true but you have to look at the campaign. He Iran. But that's not why significant why you significant as the reason say bill. Clinton was significant after two terms of Reagan. One term of George H W Bush. which is is that you had this entire suffocating? All encompassing way of running the country and then suddenly someone comes in and they pivot the country. And they say we're GONNA do it a different way. By the time that they're presidency is up. You have George W Bush running and he's running as a compassionate conservative who will sometimes use government for good things which is a totally different way of talking about the government. Then what was going on during the Reagan era when you have someone say it's Rabin and the Israeli context we see now as a martyr for peace he was murdered for supporting peace. Talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians. But if you look at his last speech that he gave to the Israeli parliament he didn't support dividing Jerusalem he. He didn't really support a Palestinian state. He supported some form of political autonomy for the Palestinians. But what he did do is he got up there as somebody with tremendous security credentials not against and said there is a different way we can go right and he pushed open the door and said we need to go in this direction instead of that direction and change the Israeli domestic conversation about the Palestinian issue and he trains the international conversation about it. Ever since and Netanyahu's premiership is basically belong history. Ten plus years of Netanyahu trying to close the door that robbing open right right. And that's not that that's up because it was a flaming leftist. He's not and I don't think historically that would stand up right. It's because he was a hinge and he pivoted the country's country's politics and that's much more common democracies you don't usually have massive revolutionary sweets. You have evolutionary swings and this is what God's is represents for a tremendous number of Israelis who want a different approach to the Israeli Palestinian conflict whether they're leftists or more center and I think that we shouldn't understate that and I also think politicians should recognize who he is and his limitations right but also recognize that. That's the potential of this sort of premiership if he were to get it. Yeah Hey I like that. It's a lot more hopeful than the other alternatives. I just would love to get the hell out of there and I'm I'm I'm not going to predict because God we've tried so many times but that's just so many cases yet they had a number them. Yeah the great mystery is so one of them is case one thousand one is two thousand and one is four thousand. Here's what is case. Three thousand I know I can't Intel you know it's a it's a big secret. Well listen thank you so much for helping us understand what is going on With Netanyahu's future the political lay of the land and what benefits would be We'll obviously keep watching this process but also everyone should follow you on twitter if they can. Because AH YOU'RE UPDATING US in real time you want to handle yet your why are underscore Rosenberg man. Do I love to talk with all of you. I love answering people's questions about this stuff and thanks Tommy is my pleasure man. Thanks again and Happy.
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"Good news. There were some pretty amazing local elections on Sunday in Hong Kong. The turn out was massive. I saw that seventy one percent of eligible voters voted and these were for like city council. Elections is not like the presidential race so pro-democracy candidates won three hundred hundred eighty nine of four hundred and fifty two elected seats. That's up from one hundred twenty four again. These are you know council seat to deal with local issues but the results were seen seen as a referendum on the protest movement generally in really a shot across the bow The Chinese now we should note that the Hong Kong government is structured structured in a way that elections. Like these can only get you so far. For example the Chief Executive Hunk of Hong Kong is chosen by a committee. That is just completely stacked in favor for of the Chinese government but clearly this is a sign that popular opinion is with these protesters and know Kelly. I imagine you've been watching. These is protests with a dash of hope but probably as much anxiety as I have felt. I'm curious what you made of. The results generally yeah. I think it was a fascinating result. not only did the pro democracy folks win that many seats but the Pro Beijing folks were down over three hundred which which is a pretty significant drop Listen I think I think Xi Jinping had a bad week I think between the results of these elections in Hong Kong We have in Taiwan of course elections coming up in January and saying when is polling pretty high at the moment You had the leaks around Xinjiang Zhong of the of the Chinese Communist Party documents that essentially show how shing Zhong is a is a prison camp a concentration camp You had the discovery. Sorry in Australia that the Chinese you know. Try To essentially plant ensuring candidate in parliamentary elections. There I mean she's paying hang. I think is is suffering a series of setbacks on the foreign policy side. And what's interesting to me is to see whether or not the result in Hong Kong long either adduces Beijing to take a a more reasonable approach or actually potentially we see an even further. Crackdown from Beijing. Yeah that worries me too quickly domestically on this issue so last week Congress nearly unanimously passed a bill called Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act. The thing passed by unanimous consent. I believe in the Senate and then in the House the only lawmaker period To oppose it was congressman. Thomas Massie of Kentucky so whatever. That's his problem. The bill authorizes sanctions on Chinese or Hong Kong officials involved human rights abuses. It also requires the State Department to basically conducted annual review of Hong Kong's political situation to see if they're under the thumb of Beijing or not in order to keep a favourable trade agreement with the US so seems like. I can't remember the last time we talked about something with that much. Bipartisan support taught on Friday trump threatened to veto the bill he told Fox and friends. Were all you go for all your foreign policy news. These days that quote we have to stand with Hong Kong. But I'm I'm also standing with Xi Jinping That's very decisive leadership right there. You also said if it weren't for me Hong Kong would have been obliterated in fourteen minutes so great all observers. Think that she cares about trying to get a trade agreement done with the Chinese but Kelly. I mean one. This bill passed with a a veto proof majority so I'm not sure what he thinks he can do about it. And to China experts from both parties seem to think that you should be able to negotiate this trade deal deal on one track while dealing with Hong Kong on another Do you think this legislation is is a good step forward. And what did you make of this negotiating technique former president. So I do think it's I think it's strong legislation. I think it's important legislation. It's an important signal that the United States At a bipartisan level. People still cares about democracy and democratic values in the universal rights of people around the world. I'm also not surprised that Donald Trump is threatening to veto do it and sees it as some sort of Shit In the negotiations with Beijing which also actually give us pause on a number of matters including Taiwan North Korea and other issues That he is he is intently focused on Getting this trade deal so he can have a personal victory. ahead of the elections You know I was also a national security adviser. Brian was up in Halifax as well and he made some comments AS WELL ON A in support of the bill But he also sort of indicated the president president you know may or may not sign it. this is like a no brainer. I mean there's no reason why trump should not sign this bill. It's going to get past Either way I'm certain the that the the Congress will override any veto so it's really kind of a no brainer. So the fact that he chooses to not sign or to veto it I think is sends into star strong signal about where the present head lies with respect to you know core democratic values which I guess shouldn't surprise us at this point but it's also you know if the president does his veto the bill or not sign it. That's a sign of weakness to to Beijing That that shows Beijing that they can manipulate the president on the on the issues that they care about out and He's going to think it's a you know. Oh I'm just cutting business dealer real estate deal and to give and take but there's actually profound implications coming from that decision agreed You know it's interesting. We talk about the the President United States no girls any interest in human rights or democracy and this is happening at a time when you're seeing protest test movements all over the place all of a sudden I mean you're the senior adviser for Middle East reform during the height of the Arab spring. We're now seeing protest movements in Iraq. DOC Iran Lebanon. I mean I could go on and on what do you make of this sort of act to the Arab spring that seems to be happening across across the region. I have a couple of thoughts. I I think it's it's tells me that there is something generational going on here because if you look at the leadership of these movements this is largely youth driven And I think it sends a signal to all of the world leaders That they're that young people want to have a say in their life. They want to have accountability for their leadership And it's going to be something that they see that is not going to be able to be controlled so you know. Xi Jinping's worst nightmare of courses sources that Hong Kong spreads to Taiwan and. Suddenly you have Taiwanese youth. The streets demanding democratic freedoms. So there's something something going on here that I don't think we can quite fully understand. It's cutting across different countries in different issue sets But I do think it's going to be the wave of the future. I think this is going to be a constant. It's churn of young people out there trying to make a difference whether it's on climate change or anti corruption or Lena writes in Hong Kong. I think this is going to be a trying to see. So you talked about Xi Jinping's rough week Let me Offer him some consolation year so last week Ben and I talked about how the North Korea talks. Are you know collapsing if not collapsed and then on top of that you at trump's demand the South Korea pay four hundred percent more to keep US troops on the Korean Peninsula. I just want to also note for listeners. That trump is simultaneously demanding that Japan pay five times more than they would. They currently pay to keep us. Forces stationed stationed in Japan. The Japan Times reported that this message has been delivered by John Bolton back in July and then his Japanese counterparts pointed out that Japan already pays way more of these expenses than other allies like South Korea and Germany so the US forces Japan consists of approximately fifty four thousand military personnel. They're stationed there pursuant to a treaty dating back to nineteen sixty signed by Douglas. Macarthur I believe so two part question for you. I mean we've talked in the past about how trump was demanding that NATO allies invest more on their militaries. While if you really unpack what he said. It clearly doesn't understand how NATO works. There is some merit to you. His general argument that the US has been shouldering a lot of that burden that others need to invest more right. Is there any merit to the claim that Japan should may pay more for are are basing their and then bigger picture I mean. Can you talk about what these forces do. And how important US forces Japan. Our to our national security generally sure I mean of course you already mentioned. Japan is a treaty ally of the United States We have defense obligations to to Japan. But they're also really critical players with respect to both China and North Korea So when I think about what the presence doing at least he's consistent on the in the theme of extorting Foreign Governments But this is a this is a perfect win for China. It's a win. For North Korea to have the president of the United States. Essentially doing their dirty work visa we are Democratic allies which they would love to undermine the relationship between the United States and Japan and the United States and South Korea. That's like a that's a number one strategic objective for for both China and North Korea. So it's very weird for me to see the president Going to To essentially play into that Human Japan's pays about two billion dollars a year For for a shares the cost of our stationing of our forces. There they also pay for military construction at Guam They've done a number of contributions to the Ken. Rice's campaigned Afganistan They're pretty good ally especially in terms of burden-sharing so for the for the President United States essentially say Japan. You know what not only do you have to be two billion to eight billion. And that's an insane. That is insane bargaining position And undermines Japan politically at a time. Time when you know we really need them on everything from you. Know the relationship with China And North Korea issue so it's completely counterproductive to me. I don't truly understand it. If the president talks about competition with China as like number one national security strategy priority this is a complete own-goal with respect to that is just baffling. It's I don't get it. I don't I can't understand it. It's an extortion theme and and keep my listeners. Like a lot of Americans question about how much military basing overseas ABC's costs. I will tell you that. If those forces weren't based in Japan they would be base back in the United States. And let me tell you how expensive that would be good point so it's not as it's not as if it's like a a you know if we bring him home there's no cost to that Absolutely not the case. We'd actually have to build more housing ETC now be extremely expensive here in the United States. Were no one. No one would be doing the burden-sharing at least the Japanese are are ponying up significant amount. So they also play a role of course missile defense and A number of our contingency plans around war in the region is just is. He's consistent man. He's extortion is the name of his game. Yeah extortions the name of the game and and seemingly charging the most you possibly can for services is like kind of the only concept he understands. It's just like it would take. It wouldn't take a a four hour seminar from General Mattis over in the tank at the Pentagon to explain that our alliances in Asia are one of the most important and tools. We have to push back on China or project power into the region and yet he's just hell bent on driving them away from us. Well I mean look at NATO NATO and Ukraine I mean he's essentially gifting Russia on those two issues. He's gifting China and on the pressure on Japan and South Korea. I mean it's insane to me to see the president of the United States essentially playing into the hands of our adversaries agreed. Okay last question for you so Kelly. I woke up this morning. Yeah I read the paper and it said that..
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"Thousand sixteen and and then lastly you will hear from undecided voters. You'll meet with our field organizers again I think is my favorite episode. We've done so far until I would love it if you guys would give it a shot and share Jerod if you enjoy it so without any further ado. Let's go full world. Oh and here's Kelly. Maximum Kelly thank you again for doing the show it to be here great to have you back Okay mags weird. Weekend over at the Pentagon Tumultuous Day a few days to say the least. So unless week's episode Bannon I talked about trump's decision to part in a bunch of members of the military who were convicted of or accused of committing war-crimes one of those individuals the Navy seal named Eddie Gallagher who was accused but acquitted of murdering a teenage Isis fighter and convicted of posing for a photo with that Isis his fighters corpse. We should note. The Guy was like twelve or fifteen very young after a right wing media campaign trump ended up intervening and restored. Gallagher's rank think but the navy leadership reportedly wanted to review the case and takeaways trident which is basically means kicking him out of the Navy seals so most observers. I have been saying that trump interfering in the military justice system is destined to be a bad idea and over the weekend. They were proven right when Secretary of Defense Mark Asper fired Richard Dispenser. WHO's the secretary of the navy? Spencer released this scathing letter that talked about how good order and discipline is quite literally a life and death matter for members of the military. I think you wrote about it very compellingly. But he concluded quote here unfortunately it has become apparent that in this respect I no longer shared the same understanding with the commander in chief who appointed me in regards to the key principle of good order and discipline. I cannot in good conscience obeying orders that I believe violates the sacred oath I took in the presence of my family my flag my faith to support and defend the constitution of the United States. Wow so Kelly that makes it. Sounds like Spencer quit. Trump was inappropriately intervening and the military justice system. But the secretary the Defense Marquess Bor said to reporters today that he fired Spencer because Spencer was maybe negotiating some deal directly with the White House about Gallagher's fate without without telling him and going through the appropriate command On Monday esperer also told reporters that trump had ordered him to allow gallagher to retain his trident tried and then so it sounds like trump intervened again in the navy's you know proceedings Meanwhile Gallagher has been out in the press a lot. He's been criticized besides these his commanders. This is just a mess so Kelly you know you worked in senior roles at the Pentagon what did you make of this extraordinary intervention inching by trump. And what do you think it means for the military as an institution. Well the whole thing is incredibly disturbing for May civil military relations standpoint. It's and frankly. Nobody covered themselves in glory. Here Not Secretary Bernard Secretary Spencer and certainly not the president of the United States. But let me first start with with president trump. You know I think bottom line is he is essentially inserted himself into the military justice process. And he's done it in a way that I think is going to warp it it forever. I think that the effects are gonNA go well beyond the case of Chief Petty Officer Gallagher. I think it's we're now going to see a number of Similar cases that had been settled in the military justice. The system come back with people trying to advocate their case via Fox News the president of the United States. So I actually think that this whole effort has actually unleashed entire Pandora's box knocks on that front Wasn't the commander-in-chief is the commander-in-chief he can make Decisions and he has the ability to make these kinds of decisions but doesn't mean it's proper and it doesn't mean it's he should make the decisions you know. I think Secretary Spencer did say something really important in his letter which is essentially this is not how the US military operates this is how our adversaries areas operate. And what makes us distinct from her adversaries is that we operate on an ethical code And I think that trump has just shown essentially that he doesn't have any fidelity to ethics to morals to rule of law. And you can think about this in the context of other issues on national security but this has been like the the the core encapsulation association of the President's basic immoral view on these on these matters. you know. It's interesting to me I was I was. I was actually in Halifax Canada this weekend. with Secretary Spencer The International Security Conference. And there's lots of speculation about you know whether the secretary would resign whether or not he'll be fired etcetera etcetera. My basic view is if you're if you're a senior civilian in the Department of Defense and you don't think that you can implement at the order of the president of the United States for whatever reason for moral reasons or policy disagreements then you shouldn't be in that position And what I would've thought would've been in a better move for Spencer would have been to actually just resign rather than you know threatening designer playing it out in the press and just come forward and say this is why I resigned But he didn't choose to do that now. Secretary Esper- doesn't come across looking too great here either It's very clear to me that he's not going to stand in the way of the president on many questionable things so this is just the latest incident. I mean he's he's implemented the border while funding transfer for the president he's he's he's executed the Microsoft soft cloud contract. You know the president was intervening trying to get Amazon out of the competition for that contract because he hates. Jeff bezos. Now you're seeing How Esperance essentially saying? Yep I'm just GONNA implement the president's order even if I disagree with it and so so experts on exactly proving himself to be a hero in the scenario the bottom line is this is a mess it's going to have serious implications For Civil Military relations going forward and frankly I think if there is a new president the United States in two thousand twenty one and he has a new secretary of defense. That person is gonNA spend probably the entire term trying to dig out of the mess that the president has created in terms of politicizing the military and politicizing the processes that govern civil military relations. Yeah I mean so the risk of being grisly really. I just want folks understand what some of these charges were against gallagher so Apparently there was an isis fighter. who had been? Did you know th taken captive. They're giving a medical article tension and the allegation was that Chief Gallagher took out a knife and stabbed the captive several times in the neck and torso again. He was acquitted of those charges. But that was the accusation. He's also accused of firing a sniper rifle civilians including school aged girls Seals who turned him in have been threatened Both you know with violence but also with getting trouble in terms of You know within the seals so I guess I want people to understand that because there you're seeing a lot of folks out there saying You civilians can't imagine the kind of stress strain that someone like Eddie. Gallagher is under in a war zone. And maybe he should get a pass on some of this behavior but what I want folks to understand is that it was his guys in his unit who were sounding the alarm here in asking in the Pentagon leadership to do something. Yeah that's right. I mean Gallagher is not a hero among the community. That's for sure I'm actually waiting to see whether or not The seal commander Admiral Green Actually decides to resign connect because the president's order will essentially undermine Rerun Greens Greene's authority within the seal community. So I'll be. I'm kind of waiting to see if he comes for with the resignation. It's also important to know that the navy seals have been going through a really serious challenge around Behavior Behavior and Al Green has been actually trying to clean it up. You've had one hundred fifty. Approximately a hundred and fifty seals lose their tried to pin since two thousand eleven for bad behaviour on a range of issues. So there's a deeper curse a problem within the Navy Seals. I think we're emerald. Green was actually trying to clean it up and now the president has been essentially you know pulled out from underneath them. Yeah I mean look the these are then women who are Punished for not having their uniform looking right or or or a bed made in basic training. There's an organization institution a group of people that revere in an honored discipline. And just the idea that it would be. I don't know a politically beneficial to the president among the military to give someone a pass that has been accused of things. This grave is is kind of surprising to me. It feels like a bit of a misread need of you know how a lot of folks who you and I worked with including Navy seals Operate that's right. I'm I've worked with a number of Navy seals throughout my career earlier. And I can tell you that pretty much everybody. As far as I know is beside themselves with respect to the presence actions here In it's it's deeply corrosive to morale It's deeply corrosive to rule of law within the military and frankly you know abroad the US military leterrier again. This is this is something that I don't think the president truly understands is that there is a code That the military lives bar and that will respected for around on the world and the president clearly doesn't believe in that code. Yeah Okay let's turn to the impeachment trials for a bit because that's slightly less depressing I know I I have to say watching watching these hearings Made me think of you. Maybe think of like so many of the folks I was lucky enough to work with while at the NFC you worked at the State Department you worked at the US mission mission. The NATO you did Iran policy at the National Security Council during the Bush in the Obama Administration. You're deputy assistant secretary at the Pentagon I mean. I mean we probably spent hundreds of hours in meetings or in conversations about policy but I. I don't think I ever talk to you about politics once I would've felt weird to ask And you no. I'm not sure if you personally knew any of the folks testify but it wouldn't surprise me. I certainly you know they. They reminded me of a lot of other people. We worked with so just curious. Generally what you made the testimony you've seen so far. And what has been the reaction in you know nonpartisan foreign policy community The folks you know about how these people have been treated. Yeah you know at the past Past couple of weeks have been pretty intense You know I worked closely with pretty much all of them. uh-huh testified I would work bill Taylor when I was at the NFC on Arab spring issues. I worked with George Kent Beck at The State Department early in my career I actually worked very closely with Laura Cooper and was on her promotion. Port hit the Pentagon. So you know. A number of these folks are are pretty Very familiar to me and just to sort of watch them You know it didn't surprise me that they performed so well in front of a lot of you know under a lot of political pressure of course and a lot of scrutiny. Me and the fact that they were so distinguished and how they presented their perspectives was something that didn't surprise me and you know it's such a a serious serious contrast frankly to you know what you saw with Rudy Giuliani and you know ambassador Sunlen and sort of what I like to say is goon squad of president trump and how they were trying to implement this..
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"Approach. Listener support W in Wiessee studios. In nineteen seventy-one. Federal investigators convened to grand juries to investigate among other things. The publishing by major newspapers of thousands of pages of secret government documents reviewing the history from nineteen Forty-five on of the still ongoing war in Vietnam. The Pentagon papers the monumental chronicle of government secrets and lies described. In a two thousand seventeen Ken burns film series seven thousand pages of highly classified documents and historical narrative compiled secretly at the orders of former secretary of defense Robert McNamara. He had hoped a study of the decision making process that had led the United States to become so deeply involved in Vietnam would help future policymakers avoid similar errors, the consequences were vast, including. That historic effort by the federal government to investigate under the espionage act staffers at the Washington Post New York Times and the Boston Globe as tends to be the case with sprawling grand jury cases. The investigators questions and methods remain a secret. But Jill Lepore hopes to change that on Monday of this week Lepore. Harvard historian New Yorker staff writer and author of these truths. A history of the United States asked a federal court to order the release of documents related to those grand juries why? And when was the investigation open Lepore demands in court documents, why was it closed to one lengths did the government go in conducting the investigations a half century after Pentagon analyst Daniel ellsberg's mammoth revelations questions still linger. Les Gelb isn't. So sure the press got the right? Message from the Pentagon papers then or now and he led the team that created them. I spoke to him back in January of this year following the release of the Spielberg movie the post it was all about the Pentagon papers. But less said he didn't get a chance to set the record straight because the filmmakers, they don't pick up the phone people behind the movie the posted and call the only one who came by really was Ken burns. What did he ask you hear asked me about the origins of the Pentagon papers? And I told them what they were namely that we got list from McNamara of one hundred questions things like what's happening in the field. How many of the enemy dies the buddy kill eight of the hundred questions were historical now is giving six people to work on these questions. And we were given two months to get them done. I collected the people, by the way, we. Would told not to tell anybody about this. We stared at the question that we all started laughing. Why are we doing this? This is the kind of stuff we send up to the press secretary when we're preparing him to answer questions. We're not gonna be able to add anything to what we're doing on a daily basis, but some of the questions were bigger than that less. Questions included. Are we lying about the number killed in action? Can we win this war? So how did the government feel about the war? I would say almost everybody in the government felt that the war was not going. Well, but number felt there were ways to fight it better. They were very very few people in the Pentagon or the State Department or the White House who were flat out against the war. Right. They believed in the domino theory, essentially that was it that somehow we lost the strategic place such as Berlin, we would lose Europe. And in fact, one of the memos you'll see in the Pentagon papers the State Department referred to into China as the Asian. Berlin. That's how central they thought. It was to the futures security and safety of the United States card to believe. But that's what we thought. But why did McNamara? Ask you these questions if you were already given the best answers you could to the press secretary every day why to this day? I don't know McNamara. Initially just said answer those questions, then after this group of six that I had assembled schmooze the batter for several days, we decided, well, you know, it might be interesting. If we could look back into the files, and maybe give more in depth answers to the questions we had been answering more or.
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"This is on foreign time tom gelatin were looking back at the release of the pentagon papers because a new hollywood film that's opening today dramatizes the washington post role in that story you can join the conversation what have you heard about the pentagon papers and what do you think they did as far as uh turning america's views about the war and i'm talking with leslie gal who played a absolutely key role he worked at the defense department in the late 1960s and he led the project that produced the pentagon papers before the break leslie you are telling us about the about the uh how these papers were assembled um now who are the members of your team and what role did the couldn't question a lot of people are knows what world daniel ellsberg have on your team about thirty somewhat different authors most of the studies were authored by more than one person half the uh the people who worked on it were military half civilians from think tanks and um the whole project took about a year and a half size els berg is concerned he worked on the project for about three months or so and he did half of one paper on the year 1960 was sixty sixty one do you know how they got leaked i'm sure you do i hear i eventually found out about it but i didn't know there had been had been leaked the first can't i had of it so when i got a call out of the blue from a couple of new york times report is asking questions about am i said.
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"What do we actually know and that the issues about you know aliens and what it might mean culturally i think our fascinating but they're really not in the new not what i focus on as a journalist um i am interested in the data the observer bulls uh what the highest level people say who have worked with the phenomenon of studied it what the military pilots have reported and things like that and i and anger so it sort of narrows it a little bit because i am not as lesley why up heroic why the pentagon as opposed to the national academy of sciences for example in a car investigating this i mean the pentagon in charge of thinking about threats that's true and i i think it's a really good question and i think part of the reason that we don't have the national science foundation and others involved is book is this ridicule this stigma that associated with this topic i mean it's very scientists even scientists who are interested in it don't even talk about it because and this is you know i think this is one of the biggest uh things that may be occurring now with this with the release of the new york times article in all the attention it's been getting is just to make the point that this should be taken seriously it should be investigated and what's kept people away from that is this stigma and that's part of the reason why the the pentagon program was kept secret and the because a if harry and harry reid a said this on the record that if he had gone into congress and talked about trying to fund something like this it never would have passed muster because of this taboo we have in place so that really needs to change and i think of that can change it will open a lot of doors and will learn a lot more susan ellipse alter y what's what's behind that stigma that took though that leslie talking about that stigma has um i think become a little lassus as we're seeing right now um but the but ufos were linked to the tabloids they were linked to things that um were ridiculed i mean there is there was a a study by harvard psychologists in the nineties with people who remembered ufo abductions and um you know.
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"Up a new one was popping up as soon as they stop the last one more than twenty newspapers eventually published portions of the pentagon papers and once the supreme court ruled the formerly top secret papers which few had even known existed were now very public frank heart said no government yes the newspaper holding six three to let the new york times and the washington post the latest bankatlantic on taher shows how deeply the us was involved in vietnam even during the eisenhower administration for example by 1958 why ask a wildly were all out signings intervention was the sucralose best song was well nuclear weapons but after the smoke cleared ellsberg figures he had failed they'll impact on the war four went andrei bigger the next year the public new more and they were even more against the war but they were already against the war and that had no effect on nixon with the pentagon papers alone nothing nothing and that might have been it except remember nixon's initial reaction to the pentagon papers on that first day how he liked that the leak might make trouble for the democrats that was not a fleeting thought in that first week while the times was under the temporary injunction nixon takes this idea over the edge he's trying to deflect as much of the heat as possible to former president lyndon johnson he wants johnson to hold a press conference about the pentagon papers johnson is an adjusted and nixon is getting pretty steamed about it his chief of staff h r haldeman has an idea.
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"From the center for investigative reporting in p r x this is reveal amount let's it's june 13th mateen seven a team of journalists has been working in secret out of hotel rooms for weeks sunday morning at the pentagon papers the classified history of the vietnam war it's lucy americans about to learn much of what they've been told about the war is alive reveals michael cory takes it from there after new york times everyone was waiting for the hammered a drop robert rosy rosenthal remembers wondering with the fbi swoop in and confiscated documents would they all get arrested nothing happened that sunday i i remember being in the hilton with neil sheehan all the reporters sunday new york times and nothing was happening and they were bombed we were all bunte you might expect that at the white house nixon was blowing hence stack over this you'd be wrong thanks to all those secret recordings nixon made we know exactly what he was thinking here he is talking on the phone that sunday to general alexander haig just a note there are some salty language in some of these tapes k nothing else of interest in the world are very significant this goddamn new york times expose the most highly classified documents of the war bold that i see that i didn't read the story but the you mean that that was leaked out at the pentagon is devastating security breach of of the great magnitude remaining adults well what what's being done about it then i mean i didn't i could we notice was coming out now.
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"And that's rosy rosenthal gets pulled back into the story remember he was a 22yearold editorial assistant at the papers when he got that call from a at editor he said uh you know i want you to come to womb eleven eleven at the hilton hotel tomorrow don't tell anybody where you're going and bring enough clothes for a month or more and i basically said who is this and he said i'm serious side no idea of the strange phone call so you stayed at the hill yeah we i lived in i slept in a room with two huge filing cabinets it had you know thousand i slept at the pentagon papers mm how many other people were doing what you were doing the whole team was probably one it timika finished over 20 didn't as tremendous amount of pressure and you know a sense that any moment at the fbi could come in and grab everything and arrest everybody the times decided to do more than just report about what was in the documents they wanted people to be able to read the pentagon papers for themselves back then the only way to get the documents to the public was the print them verbatim and that's what the times was planning to do it would look like a wall and black text almost no outs for page after page after page the new york times was about to air out the dirty laundry of four presidents and no one knew what would happen was amazingly elaborate process ahead to set up in the other room and built a room within the times to set the type secretly actually they didn't want any the union people does they took four men managers to set the type secretly ellsberg didn't know any of this was happening until he got a call on a saturday afternoon from a times editor who wasn't on the project ellsberg had shown him part of the study and the editor was planning on using some of it in a book he said well that study you told me about they have a whole study now really and job he said they're coming out with it in the the building is locked up they have private police around here the czech everybody who comes in and out because they're afraid of an injunction.
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"From the center for investigative reporting in p r x this is reveal some allochtonous leaked secret documents that exposed lies in corruption on a massive scale their the gift that keeps on giving before julian assange and edward snowden the panama papers and the paradise papers the release of the pentagon papers set the standard for forcing government secrets into the light this holiday season there's a new movie based on the washington post decision to publish those papers it was a courageous move because the knicks administration had already sued the new york times for printing them first in the film tom hanks plays the post executive editor ben bradley in meryl streep is publisher katharine graham the pentagon papers lawsuit led the nightly news while the post and its lawyers grappled with the stakes of picking up where the times left off hurry are farm were marred operas you're not anymore while her bar documents bearing were but vietnam war if you publish won't be at the supreme court next week meaning with we could all go to prison turns out someone familiar to our newsroom at reveal was more than a bystander to the pentagon papers iris at a friend's place uh and the okay i heard a laugh there what's the lab what was going out the principles of high get smoker joints that's robert rosy rosenthal our recently retired executive director at the centre for investigative reporting he's talking to reveals michael horry now rosy we'll rosy is our clark can't mildmannered soft spoken even cooking a secret identity today he'll help explain have that identity intersex with history it's 1971 rosy is about six months into an entrylevel job at the new york times and the phone rings and you we can paying attention but then i hear iras mothers voice saying robert she called me robert robert is for europe similar who knows i'm here it was one of the top editors epa times he told rosy don't come into the news room in the morning good room eleven eleven of the hilton hotel don't tell anyone where you're going and bring enough clothes for at least a month.