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Dodgers Pitcher Trevor Bauer Has His Restraining Order Rescinded by Judge

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:43 sec | 11 months ago

Dodgers Pitcher Trevor Bauer Has His Restraining Order Rescinded by Judge

"Woman. But an L. A Dodger star will not be returning to his team just yet. Despite scoring a legal victory Thursday, we are grateful to the Los Angeles Superior Court for denying the request. Or permanent restraining order. Dissolving the temporary restraining order against Mr Bauer. Trevor Bauer will remain on administrative leave the L. A Dodgers pitchers attorney Shawn Holley, speaking outside of California courthouse after a judge denied a request from the woman accusing Bauer of sexual assault regarding restraining orders. After four days of hearings Now, Bauer was set to come off leave from MLB at the end of the day Friday, but Major League Baseball in the MLB Players Association electing to extend leave for 1/6 time to August 27th. The reigning NL Cy Young winner has been away from the Dodgers since July. 2nd. That's Mount Napolitano, the Dow Down

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US Puts F-18 Jets on Standby in Kabul as Evacuation Chaos Continues

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:32 sec | 11 months ago

US Puts F-18 Jets on Standby in Kabul as Evacuation Chaos Continues

"18 jets on standby, Um in the evacuation chaos at the Kabul airport. Major General Hank Taylor. Taylor says the Jets are on standby if the need for air support arises to ensure the safety of U. S troops and operations, video footage and reports of the Taliban stopping people from getting to the airport. When asked about whether the planes would carry out airstrikes. Neither he nor Pentagon spokesman John Kirby, who was nearby provided an answer. 2000 people have been evacuated in the past 24 hours. He avoided a new restraining order filed

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California Expands COVID-19 Vaccine Proof Order to Indoor Events of 1,000 or More

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:36 sec | 11 months ago

California Expands COVID-19 Vaccine Proof Order to Indoor Events of 1,000 or More

"Change to masks in California I'm Marilyn Hider in the Cove Oh news center beginning September 20th everybody who goes to an indoor event with more than 1000. People in attendance will have to show proof of covid vaccination or a negative covid test within 72 hours of the event. The rules were announced by the state Department of Public Health. The rules previously allowed people to self attest to being vaccinated or having tested negative, But now people will have to show proof. The previous rules also applied only to events with 5000 more people. But the new rules lower the threshold to 1000.

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California Sheriff: He, Not Doctor, Diagnosed Video Overdose

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:35 sec | 11 months ago

California Sheriff: He, Not Doctor, Diagnosed Video Overdose

"County Sheriff Bill Gore is acknowledged that he not a doctor concluded a deputy overdosed from fentanyl exposure while searching a vehicle for drugs. Body worn camera footage released last week shows the deputy following falling to the ground and struggling to breathe after coming within about six inches of the drug. The union Tribune quotes the sheriff is saying it was classic signs of fentanyl overdose. That's why we called it that. Health experts told the newspaper. Fentanyl is extremely dangerous, but inhaling a small amount doesn't lead to an overdose and say they suspect the deputy essentially passed out due to fear.

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Ex-LAPD Officer Charged With Manslaughter in Connection With Deadly Costco Shooting

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:40 sec | 11 months ago

Ex-LAPD Officer Charged With Manslaughter in Connection With Deadly Costco Shooting

"Facing manslaughter charges for the deadly shooting of a developmentally disabled man and the wounding of his parents at a Costco in Corona while the officer was off duty two years ago, former officer Salvador Sanchez was arrested this morning and is facing felony charges of voluntary manslaughter and assault with a semi automatic firearm for the shooting. 32 year old Kenneth French was killed. Sanchez lawyers said he was holding his son and knocked to the floor, fearing for the safety of his son fired his weapon. Riverside County prosecutors have decided not to charge Sanchez and Sanchez lawyer says the charges are politically motivated by the state attorney general in Chicago this weekend.

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Apple Will Reject Demands to Use Child Abuse Detection System for Surveillance

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:41 sec | 11 months ago

Apple Will Reject Demands to Use Child Abuse Detection System for Surveillance

"Is pushing back against concerns over its child abuse detection tools, Kristen Goodwin explains in a statement on its site. Apple defends a new detection system to flag any child sexual abuse material shared to iCloud. Nine accusations that will be forced to expand the system to surveil customers. Reps say. We have faced demands to build and deploy government mandated changes that degrade the privacy of users before and have steadfastly refused those demands. We will continue to refuse them in the future. The update part of Apple's Iowa's 15 operating system set to roll out this fall, using cryptography to identify when users upload any child abuse imagery to its storage service.

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Facebook Is Seeking Recusal of FTC Chair Lina Khan in Antitrust Case

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:24 sec | 1 year ago

Facebook Is Seeking Recusal of FTC Chair Lina Khan in Antitrust Case

Drought: Newsom Asks Californians to Cut Water Use by 15%

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:18 sec | 1 year ago

Drought: Newsom Asks Californians to Cut Water Use by 15%

"Is asking for residents and businesses to conserve water. Currently, 50 of the state's 58 counties are under emergency drought declarations, which lets the government regulate how much water farmers get. Newsom wants all Californians to voluntarily reduce water usage by 15%,

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MLB Places Trevor Bauer on Administrative Leave Amid Assault Allegations

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:40 sec | 1 year ago

MLB Places Trevor Bauer on Administrative Leave Amid Assault Allegations

"A major league baseball pitcher, has been benched by the league is a criminal investigation against him, continues Major League Baseball placing L. A Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer on administrative leave for seven days in response to allegations of sexual assault levied against power by a woman who has since filed for a domestic violence restraining order against him. This announcement Friday comes one day after Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said the former Cy Young winner was still scheduled to start Sunday against the Washington Nationals. Referring to league officials. As of now, we're kind of in the middle of letting the commissioner's office Major League Baseball handle this. It's in their hands. MLB is working in conjunction with police in Pasadena, California to investigate these claims. Bauer has denied the

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Fauci Blasts 'Preposterous' Covid Conspiracies

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:15 sec | 1 year ago

Fauci Blasts 'Preposterous' Covid Conspiracies

"Dr. Anthony Fauci is calling the attacks against him. Attacks on science critics are calling for his job after he was accused of changing his views on mask wearing in the origins of Covid 19. He told MSNBC he could debunk each of their conspiracy theories

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California Governor Seems Unlikely to Lift Worker Mask Mandate

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

01:24 min | 1 year ago

California Governor Seems Unlikely to Lift Worker Mask Mandate

"Lottery drawing today for winners of the Covid 19 vaccination prizes, which we'll get to in a moment, Newsome was asked by reporters. About the Cal OSHA, Uh, bizarre regulatory announcement last night that we have to have masks, Uh, even for vaccinated people in the workplace. Uh, this is what Newsom had to say. Audio one. What do you say to workers who are so confused? Because the administration has been promoting June 15th. Is this big, you know, reopening date and restriction lists. Uh, state of California or not entirely, but for the most part, and now they're being told that they have to wear these masks, potentially unvaccinated if their ambassadors so we're working through us. I mean, look, this is a This is the sausage making process. And what occurred was occurred last night, and we're we're going through. We've already had a series of conversations earlier this morning about people's feelings about what Happened last night. And as you know, it was quite a quite an intense conversation. Um, I think it's healthy. That the governor is not dictating and mandating the terms of those discussions in advance. Um we've certainly influenced broader conversations and we hope to influence The conversations going forward, right? Stop right there.

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California to Offer $116 Million in Coronavirus Vaccine Prize Money

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:46 sec | 1 year ago

California to Offer $116 Million in Coronavirus Vaccine Prize Money

"People in California will each win $1.5 million in a new state drawing the 10 winners will be pulled. June 15th Day, California reopens each receive a million and a half dollars with another 30 people between June 4th and June 11th. Each winning $50,000. The state of California today is announcing the most significant incentive program in the United States of America. We're putting aside more resource is then you know the state in America, and we're raking available the largest prizes of any state in America. For those that seek to get vaccinated. The 16. A half million in lottery winnings will go to people who received a least one vaccine dose. Have someone under 18 wins will get the money when they're an adult Governor Gavin Newsom also saying the state's giving the next two million people to get a vaccine of $50 gift card. Jack

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81% of Low-Income San Diegans Spend Most Income on Housing

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

01:00 min | 1 year ago

81% of Low-Income San Diegans Spend Most Income on Housing

"Shows there are more than 130,000 low income families in San Diego that don't have access to affordable housing. Marie Cornell was reporting partner 10 News spoke to housing advocates on how to bridge the gap. A new report from the San Diego Housing Federation shows 81% of low income families are paying more than half of their income on housing costs, a statistic housing advocates fear will trend up. As more big companies purchase housing developments. Folks come in, purchased the buildings and then raise the rents to what the current market is. And so we've seen a huge loss of naturally affordable housing in San Diego, and that's why the San Diego Housing Federation is pushing for legislation. That would help organizations like nonprofits in acquiring property, keeping rents at an affordable rate. They're also asking the state to pitch in $500 million to help with this effort. Advocates say. In addition to building more affordable homes, we should preserve current homes to make sure they remain affordable with

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California Will Require Uber, Lyft Drivers to Transition to Electric Cars

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:29 sec | 1 year ago

California Will Require Uber, Lyft Drivers to Transition to Electric Cars

"In 2023 ride healing services in California will have to start phasing in electric vehicles to California air resource is board voted to approve the mandate scene is an integral element. Combating climate change by 2030 90% or more vehicles used to shuttle passengers via uber or lift will have to be all electric. Those companies are mostly on board with the switch, however, critics point out the high cost of transitioning to electric will will be be an an economic economic burden burden for for low low to to moderate moderate income income groups. groups. I'm I'm Lisa Lisa Taylor. Taylor.

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Increased Monthly Child Tax Credit Payments to Start in Mid-July

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:20 sec | 1 year ago

Increased Monthly Child Tax Credit Payments to Start in Mid-July

"The tax deadline day today. But millions of Americans are also getting some good news about 39 million families qualified to start receiving monthly child tax credit payments in mid July. The massive covert stimulus bill passed in March raised the maximum payments families could risk. Per child this year from $5600,

Panel: End Commanders' Power to Block Military Sex Cases

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:40 sec | 1 year ago

Panel: End Commanders' Power to Block Military Sex Cases

"Could be in store for how the U. S military handles sexual assault cases. A Pentagon panel is recommending that commanders no longer be involved in prosecuting cases involving sexual assault in the military. The panel also recommended that sexual harassment cases be dealt with outside of the regular chain of command. Those recommendations come as defense secretary avoid Austin's reviewing structural changes to military protocol in cases involving sexual assault, which have been reported on the rise among the nation's armed forces. Since 2006 Pentagon press Secretary John Kirby tells Fox needs that Austin will now review those recommendations and consult with service leaders.

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Senate to Vote on Bill to Combat Anti-Asian American Hate Crimes

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:23 sec | 1 year ago

Senate to Vote on Bill to Combat Anti-Asian American Hate Crimes

"Asian American hate crimes bill expected to be voted on in the U. S Senate on Wednesday, and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer says Should not be a partisan issue and we will vote on the bill on Wednesday, and I dare any senator to vote against this legislation. Hate crimes against Asian Americans have risen sharply across the U. S since the coronavirus began in China.

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Biden picks 1st woman to be Army secretary

The DeMaio Report with Carl DeMaio and Lou Penrose

00:18 sec | 1 year ago

Biden picks 1st woman to be Army secretary

"Senior Pentagon official to be the first woman to lead the U. S. Army. If confirmed by the Senate is Army Secretary Christine War myth would work with the Army's chief of staff who does not command soldiers, but his responsible along with the Army secretary for training and equipping them. CNN anchor Anderson

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

06:32 min | 1 year ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"This is the Gemayel report with Carl Tamayo and Lou Penrose. The fight continues. I love it. When Maryland Haider goes ahead and steals my teas and Gives you this story before I can give you the story. That's okay. That's because she's good at what she does. Aziz was just reported the county, San Diego decided not to appeal the judge's decision in hole. Ah, the county of supervisors decided to narrow cast their appeal. Uh it seemingly is starting to develop, perhaps even what would be a compromise here. They're only appealing the ban, their only appealing the lifting of the ban on indoor dining, as well as the lifting of the ban on strip clubs. Therefore, they are saying we're okay with the outdoor dining remaining. Uh, open. So that is a big development. The county of San Diego will be appealing, but their arguments will be different, um than the state of California. My hope is that the county supervisors that Are interested in having outdoor dining approved. They need to meet with the county lawyers and make sure that they are faithful to the will of the county board. Um So Fletcher getting back to Fletcher. Uh, there is, uh, this argument that he makes it the very end, So we basically have gone through and exposed the fact that he complains the judge had no data. It's actually the county that did not give data to the judge repeatedly. And the same thing happened in L. A And the county public health officer basically agrees with the people that brought the lawsuit and the judges, quoting the county public health officer. Hey, then says we're doing it all in the name of public health. And of course that reveals that he doesn't really understand the U. S Constitution and the protocols for these public health orders. You have to show that your public health remedy Your limitation, your lockdown. Whatever your regulation is narrowly tailored and absolutely justified by the data. That is what the U. S. Supreme Court has stated. As recently as Thanksgiving. That is now what the U. S. Supreme Court has used in not one, but two but three separate cases. Throwing out covered 19 restrictions in the blue states. The past two weeks. So long. This seems to be clarifying. Even the Fletcher also says the judge handed down a ruling that was confusing. No, it was It was plain English. It was surprising which lead to confusion. But the ruling itself is quite clear. County doesn't have the data. County public health officials, Dr Wilma Wooten. Agrees with the plaintiffs. In this case, air go I as judge will agree with the plaintiffs as well. So finally He wants to wrap it up with now that I've told you that I'm right and you're wrong. Let me also let you know that I really don't want to hurt the restaurants. I don't want jobs to be destroyed. And you know what? The restaurant industry agrees with me on this one. Already lost enough of the coffee that was drinking, spinning it up on the science side that this is, you know, I just got fired on this one. Here's Nathan Fletcher trying to claim that even the restaurant industry knows that he's not the bad guy. He's doing nothing wrong. He's not trying to hurt them. No. A big bag, boogie man. This cove. It Audio number nine and so no one wants to close any businesses at all. None of us want to be doing any of this. I went outside business under the other day and their businesses closing because they went through a Coben and he said, Nathan, You didn't close my business to public health ordered and close my business. Cove in 18 Close my business. There are negative impacts from the things that are being taken, but they are less severe than what will happen and what I fear will becoming in the weeks and months ahead. Uh huh. It sounds awfully similar to, uh, Barack Obama. You didn't build that business. I built that business. Yeah. You didn't close that business coming 19 close that business. You realize no one like thinks the way you are, Nathan. They know that No one said that to you. No same business owner, Particularly a restaurant owner would look you in the eye and say, Gee, Nathan, I know it's not your fault. I know you didn't close my business. I know that you're only following the science, which, by the way, all the restaurants know the science is not existent. I know that you're absolutely right that even though Los Angeles shut down all their restaurants in March And they're having the same covert 19 surge that we're having here in San Diego and our restaurant. Shut down. You know what? 45 weeks ago for indoor? Um, I know that somehow, you know that these cases are actually all driven by the restaurant industry. No. No one said that David No one said that Um What you're trying to do is pretend like All the carnage all the job losses, all the pain all the suffering all the businesses that have gone under It's not your fault. It's really better for them in the long run. I love how he says it's better for you in the long run, because the pain today will be worth the salvation of saving the lives long term. Hold on a second. We've had the worst lockdowns. Here in California. And yet we have the same sort of covert 19 search. Meanwhile, in red states that did not have these severe lockdowns. They're also seeing an increase in coded So tell me why the lockdowns We're worth it. Days and Fletcher Can you.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

06:17 min | 1 year ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"This is the Tamayo report with Carl Tamayo and Lou Penrose. We the people are done for upset and we're ready to fight back. And that was our way of saying You know what you're gonna tell us. We have to stay in our home at 10 p.m.. Well, guess what? We're gonna be outside at 10 01, and there's nothing that you can do about it because we're not breaking the law and we are protected by the U. S prime The story behind the story would hope The people who are pushing back on the recommendations for mitigation measures. Just look at the numbers. Look at the fax. The fight continues. Last Thursday, We brought you the audio of Sidney Powell, who says that the Dominion Software company voting company That they're in on a conspiracy that the software could be manipulated, Hacked programmed to move votes from one Candidate to another, and that she's got all sorts of evidence, but she doesn't want to show it yet. But she's got the evidence to show that this is a grand conspiracy. On. It was all the software that did it. She was part of the press conference on Thursday. We played you her her arguments. Tucker Carlson, who's had Sidney Powell on his show, Um many times understands. Yeah, she was General Flynn's is General Flynn's Lawyer, Um It tried to get information from city Powell off air, You know, for a couple days, you know. Hey, So can you brief us on what's going on? And you know what? What evidence? Do you have give us a good estimation? City. Powell got really militant really argumentative and decided not to go on Tucker Carlson and threatened Tucker Carlson. Time across and is a trump supporter. He is a conservative. He's a good guy. Um, he's not part of the conspiracy. I can guarantee that. Over the weekend. The Trump people distance themselves from city Powell, putting out a very terse statement saying that city Powell is not a member member of the Trump legal team. And that she's acting in her personal capacity. What do you make of that, Lou? So I mean, I It wasn't Wasn't strong enough of a statement for me to suggest that they don't want her saying what she's saying It does give her the freedom to say things that may or may not necessarily be beneficial to other Republicans. So I I'm not sure what to make of it. Other than She's not stopping and her statements are still very, very powerful a zone she presents the evidence. And that's the question. You think that Because time is of the essence it Why does she just come out with whatever she's got? I mean, if this is true And she's strident about how easy a case it is and how she's got the goods. If this is true, honey, let it out there in the open. You know what the hell are you waiting for? We have states that air certifying results, and this is gonna be hard to prove. So you might as well get the stuff out there Now This sounds to me like it's the grand conspiracy. That they never want to show you the evidence. It's always what we were prevented from showing evidence because the courts wouldn't let us in. Well, that's not good enough. Go to the court of public opinion. We're big boys were big girls. We can handle it. Shall we just let it out? City. Power is not a coupe, though she she's she's alerted constitutional attorney. She's a scholar. She's been doing this for a long time. Esso it it she has. She has earned credibility at least as far as I'm concerned to follow her this this far I'm willing to go one step further. But I don't know what what is causing the delay at this point. Okay. I got an email. Just right now from Paul, he says Hi, Carl. The machines are programmed for biting to get enough votes to win there. Also programmed as to not be detected when the count program is checked. Thanks, Paul. Hey, Paul. Appreciate you reaching out. What's the proof? Send me data. Send me information. Send me proof. And I will give that proof and airing on this show. Both Lou and I would love to see the proof. Do. I think it's possible? Yeah, I think it's possible software can be manipulated and again. I don't trust the deep state. Um This is absolutely possible. But you can't just have a theory. My friends. You gotta have the smoking gun. That's where we are. We're in the big boys. This is the Big Boy League. The big girl League. Whichever your gender is or if you're still trying to figure out joint joined. Both legs were open. But this is tough. Stop. This is serious stuff. It needs to have a serious presentation. And so I do agree with you that Trump's team is probably like, okay, this is cookie, and if she's wrong about it, it backfires on us. Also, by cutting her loose, she can criticize Republicans and it not it not be the president doing this. It's not interparty warfare. It's just City Powell. We can't control her. So I think they benefit by having her on the outside. But remember, she was at a press conference with Rudy Giuliani. She looked like she was a full fledged member of the legal team, just as recently as Thursday. So There's also a theory going on. And I think this is this is interesting theory to me that Giuliani and and, uh, the the entire trump legal team generals. They saw the evidence that Sidney Powell has, and they thought, Well, you know, this is going to cut both ways. This is gonna hurt Republicans and Democrats. So let's cut her loose. Let her let her make the case. With this bombshell information on de so that it doesn't it becomes its own thing that she becomes her own election fraud, hero or heroine. Andre. Let Z put a little You know a little daylight between this administration because there are still Republicans an administration that wanna have career when this is all over, including the governor of Georgia. What the hell is she waiting for? We're running out of time, literally. The Electoral college meets in two weeks. What are we waiting for? If you've got.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

07:18 min | 1 year ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Report with Carl DeMaio and Blue Penrose. The fight continues. All right. You just heard the reasons to vote Yes. On prop 20. Now let's hear the other side of this issue. Joining us on the day My report is Sephora Acheson. She's with the No. On prop 20 committee. She also is with a group called Ruby's Place that organ Sephora, thanks for stopping by. Thank you for having me. All right. So give us the elevator pitch. Why? No on 20. Yes. So first and foremost. I am the executive director of movies Place, which focuses on those who are victims or survivors of domestic violence and human trafficking were part of a larger Victim's service provider organizations across the state of California. And really the elevator pitch is that this proposition was voted in 2010. Taxpayers said that they wanted You know their tax paying money to go to criminal justice reform and into victim services. So it's shocking to me and other victims that are in the state of California. Why we're back here having this conversation again. It's not I'm centered like I said, and in fact, there are hundreds of thousands of victims that say We are saying no to the repeal of prop 20, and I don't think that we can, you know, talk about top money without talking about prop 47 57. Okay, let's do that. I'm looking at your website. You're saying that the So that basically repeals parts of prop 47, which would turn many Mr Meters into potential felonies. How that sounds like that's a good thing for all of us, not just a predictive. Why would we not want to hold people accountable for their crimes? Well, a couple of things so you're moving. You know it down to $250 for shoplifting that people would be incarcerated for the amount of people that are going to be incarcerated is going to go through the roof, because if they do it three times You're factually incorrect. Do it. If they do it three times, then it could be treated as a felony. If there's a pattern that's established, but go on, right. So if you're saying like you were saying before that people are walking through the stores with a calculator on their phone, that's not their first rodeo. So What you're telling the state is that we're gonna incarcerate more people and that is going to affect prop 47. There were savings from not incarcerating. Hundreds of thousands of people per here for nonviolent offenses, which put money into victim services like trauma recovery centers, which are funded out of prop 47. They're currently head across the state of California They serve people who are violently raped. Rob Wild traffic, all of the things that you can talk about where the service is going to come from. If you're incarcerating more people, which is going to cost the state more money and therefore reduce the services victims, Yeah, but says that, But that's not fair, that it's not a zero sum game the pike and grow. The people that are stealing from from Home Depot are not going to go out there and lay drywall. They're selling that stuff on the black market to buy drugs and commit more crimes. And how does that result in more money? When you said the Pichon get bigger? We saw the result about before prop 20 was in place. This is going backwards before victim services. I had fun, too. Open trauma recovery centers for victim who experienced these violent crimes. What about them and what they want? Well, I think I don't think it's an I a partnership that violent but so far, why are you making an either or Proposition. I think that Ah, Californians want clean and safe neighborhoods, and they'd be fine investing in programs that work evidence based programs at work. What they're seeking with prop 20 is a little bit mohr enforcement. Some tools, toehold serial criminals accountable. For their behavior. So that statement said that we're not holding serial criminals accountable for their Crimes right now and you mentioned in the very beginning that you know anybody in their right mind would want, you know person who's robbing somebody or a child trafficker to stay in jail and not be available for early release. It means that they're eligible. Not that they're gonna get out on early release. They still have to go into in front of a parole board and their relief at a very low rate, so I think it is doing a disservice to say. That If we keep prop 20. We're allowing all of these violent criminals out into the world, but so far, but we'll get politicians the discretion. And the politicians like have imperative. Your comment that the system is broken. We need criminal justice reform that somehow the criminals are being maltreated in the system. Which I think is kind of laughable to most law abiding citizens or most victims and their families. What you're basically saying is we could trust But what we're saying is that we can trust the politicians and the reason why voters Over the past 30 years have approved things like three strikes and you're out and mandatory guidelines on sentencing is because they don't trust politicians, right? That's why I too, Citizensinitiative. This. This could never pass you. That's why we're putting it on the ballot. Right. And so you're talking about something that the California voters already voted on in 2010 with a misleading title. So for Ah, misleading title 20 to talk, and this is gonna be a session. You know, I understand that I understand that. But Sephora when you say when voters voted on something, one of the big problems we've always identified Is the misleading titles that politicians have placed on the initiatives that you now say the voters approved of because the reality is, it said the Public Safety initiative in 2016, and another one said that they would make clean and safe neighborhoods in 2014. So basically, the misleading title doesn't mean that voters approved Of what was inside that that that's shining little package. So I did not write the title of it and say that Lost or whoever I'm talking from the victim's perspective and what these propositions dio for victims. Many people that are incarcerated for low level offenses are victims of rape and robbery and chronic trauma. 47 57 also offers substance abuse counseling, mental health counseling,.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

01:32 min | 1 year ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Lou Penrose today at three on news radio 600 Kogo. Good morning, It's a 10 it's Monday. This is San Diego's morning News. City Council member, Dr Jennifer Campbell joins us to explain San Diego lives kind of like lies. But for the sports arena, you know we'll find out Alright Realty. I'm traffic first. Here's Kevin Dean. Pretty good Dr Committee from the South and are found 55 guys, in fact, nice drive around the county altogether right now from your only son, he said Diego Honda dealers Traffic center. A little bit of slowing on the I five. Think of transition onto the bridge Bridge has got a little bit of a slowdown on it. But not bad at all. Back to strand is a good drive. Getting up to Coronado as well, Something on the 5 15 Great East County actually. Unfree. So ah, Lot of good news to go around this morning even though our traffic volumes up again 10% over the week before last week, this report sponsored by San Diego County Credit Union with STC, See you online and mobile banking. You can check balances deposit checks, view account history, pay bills and more all from your smartphone message and data rates may apply for details. Visit sdcc you dot com I'm 70 Go goes next real time Traffic update Just 10 minutes away. Cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny today. Chance for some thunderstorms in the mountains and deserts Coast Up to 74 Today inland 83 the mountains 82 the deserts up to 104 degrees right now downtown. We're holding. Study a cloudy and 69 kogo news time is 8 12. San Diego has agreed to a deal with the people who developed live in the 02.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

09:19 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Penrose. The fight continues coming up at five o'clock, some breaking news. San Diego City Council votes to take the side of the hoodlums and mobster protesters in Portland and Seattle. We got the story for you. But first Ah all the goodies that governments giving away in the cove in 19 period. All the goodies and there's there's no limitation. Travis Toe Tio. The free lunch is pretty shocking. It's pretty shocking the amount down. The Democrats are getting everything they've ever wanted. They wanted universal basic income, and basically, they've gotten the Republicans to go along with this absurd unemployment insurance extra $600 per week. On immediate stimulus payment and, you know, you know, free money for all sorts of groups and business is out there. And so they're getting everything they want. They're letting people out of prison at a record rate. I know that you sent me that story. It's somewhere in there. Oh, no, that's coming up in the you know, police issue. Well, we can cover it now, too. But let me just, you know, let me let me go through. You know how those Liberal policies are faring. Today because they say, you know, we had to do it because of the covert 19. We have to make all these changes so first out of out of the gate. Let's talk about the meth lab that get your attention, But you could have called this. I don't know the minute somebody brought up the idea of of of the shelters. Oh, no even monitoring. We've been monitoring what's been going on? So you know, Mayor Kevin Faulkner here in San Diego has turned over this the convention center and a bunch of hotels at taxpayer expense. To the homeless on DH. It's become a complete and utter, you know, unruly mass. Then, of course, we've got your drug use rampant drug use people showing up on and here take free drugs while you're there. In San Francisco. They have done the same thing you know, take over a bunch of hotels. They actually are providing the homeless people in San Francisco with alcohol and drugs. Yes, that's what I meant s O. They were caught doing that, they said, but we're funding that alcohol in those drugs. Using non taxpayer money like that makes it Better. You Someone donated the pot. You know, someone donated the booze. Remember these? These these these Almost people are there because of mental health problems and their substance abuse problems, so that doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Now comes the story that we knew was going to happen. He hand over a bunch of hotels to homeless people give him alcohol and drugs. And what do they do, they say. But thank you for the gift. But we're going to grow some of our own. Police have arrested my list. I need some beakers and fights and burner. Right. Police have arrested two adults in San Francisco for operating a low level meth lab at a San Francisco hotel designed is a safe shelter for people on quarantine. It was the Civic Centre Motor Inn. And the call came in at 2 30 on Saturday. Ah, police and residents had to wait for a has Matt team to figure out whether it was even safe to enter. No, no, We're not your worry about Cove it It's the meth lab right issues that we're trying to get to since he's built a bomb inside of the Civic Centre Motor Inn. That's that's a place you're going to want to stay at again, right? Meth labs brought to you by California Democrats. And then of course, here is prisoner release. We brought you the story starting back in April of early release of prisoners, one out of four prisoners. In L. A county were released, then the number what went up to 10,000. Now? Today, there's an updated number. State president, officials say as many as 17,600 Yes, it's right, 17,600 California inmates are being released due to Covad Nineteens. This is a 70% higher number than was previously estimated. And victims and police are furious. They're saying this is only gonna lead to a spike in crime. You think this is this is always been their plan. They don't want people to be locked up. And they say nationally, Chris Criminal Justice advocates are Celebrating The exceptionally high numbers that California has achieved this achievement. Oh, hey, it's an achievement to let the criminals out of jail early so they could do what they can go and do a beach party in Ocean Beach, Right? And now the whole reason they're being let out is because of the spread of Covad. Throughout the jails, right? Yeah. How many people have died? Exactly Compared with the rest of population. And were they were they were the older Do they have preexisting conditions? The answer is yes. And yes, And they call it a punishment for a reason. They're not at the top of my list to say we have to let people out. Absolutely. All I'm saying is, how hard is it to keep it from spreading inside the jail? Can we just not open the doors of the jail? So No conjugal visits between is that's what yet I understand all that honey got moved to a different cell block. Can I visit him tonight? You know you can't depend on that overly complicated. We have to be locked down. We have to stay in our homes. It's simple. No, it's simple. These Democrats are saying all you've to do is put a mask on everybody and everything will be fine. Fine. Put a mask on all the president's done. Keep him locked up, though. Oh, but no, You can't do that. No, no, That's not a guarantee. No, that's not gonna work. Really. So why are we managing the weight? Where war mask again? I'm not saying Don't wear a mask. I wear a mask when I'm out. Better be safe than sorry. You know, it's an extra thing, but Again, the fallacy behind these policies, the lack of rigor and scientific basis. The the fact that it's not based on the high risks in covert but rather the lowest lowest risk in order to justify a political outcome that the politicians are trying to achieve. Alameda County, California has an idea. Let's pay you to stay home, so Oh, my gosh, That's right. Well, we already are doing that. It's called unemployment. Alameda County seems to have a little bit of extra money lying around. Even though they've applied for a massive federal bailout. They're willing to pay people $1250. Uh, to stay home. It's a pilot program the county has now approved. And you know, there's two things I want to say about this number one This is a waste of taxpayer money, given all the other goodies that we're giving out, but number two They're saying that they want to target people who are staying home because of covert 19. Now they it's loosey goosey. It's all about, you know, voluntary. I don't want to go to my my work because I'm afraid of covert 19. That's not good enough for me. I think that we should have set up the stimulus programme. So that people who have an older relative living with them Who are afraid about spreading the disease to that at risk individual And that they want to stay home in quarantine that we would provide. You know, for those meet the means testing requirements that there's no other way that they conduce, you know, and have a job at home. That we may arrange some sort of financial assistance for them so that their loved one doesn't end up in the hospital. And that's good for society as a whole because you save a life, But more importantly, you save a bed in the hospital. That makes sense. Except everybody would be my grandma. Just moved in. Moved in means testing means testing. That's why that's why you if you really want to have those Enforcement people. It's like, Look, we're not processing millions of claims of unemployment cause we're not shutting down the economy. What we are doing is focusing in on people who actually need it. This Alameda program He's like 1/7 cousin 14 times removed from that idea, right? Because it's again it's it's a giveaway. Ah, but there is a thread. There's a thread that you could you could run with and say, Well, isn't this what we should've done originally nationally for people who have a care giver role and are worried about Um Not been able to keep their job and are worried that if they went into AH society that their loved one might actually get this, so you know you pay people for the performance if they get the disease. May all the money back. No. Yeah, that would. That would be nice if I'm paying you to stay quarantined because we're worried about your grandma. Then if if you go out have the party in Ocean Beach. Sorry you owe the money back. That check will bounce is all I'm saying, but but it won't bounce. We said we gotta get to the eviction. The eviction Bam! We still have that to go, and we want to update people on the 85 stuff about tiring a tutor so We'll get to that right after the break First Lord traffic from you're always sunny. San Diego Honda dealers.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

06:06 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"To my own Lou Penrose here. One of the things that is lost on this discussion as to why online learning or distance learning is such a failed proposition. Is that nothing could be more damaging to low income and minority students. On Friday, we told you about the digital gap, the digital divide. One in five students in the state of California. One in five lacks access to a computer or Internet to participate in the distance Learning an online programs. One in five But when you take a look at minorities, it's almost 50% of African Americans. Almost 50% of African Americans do not have access to online and digital computers, INTERNET and computers. T do distance learning. In Los Angeles Unified School District Alone, 50,000 black and Latino, middle and high school students did not regularly participate in the virtual classroom platform. That they used during the spring. So this isn't just theoretically, noses, actual kids not getting school. It is amazing to me that we are in the midst of a national discussion about race in this country and yet among the most Racist public policy decisions made ever to send everybody that has a child a home for an education in this school year, knowing that there is a huge, huge, disproportionate impact. Among the Children of color. It's astounding to me, Karl. It really is a sounding. Yep. So you know, you've got that impact. You've got the impact of the economy where kids you know, being at home will have a major hit to Mom and dad. They'll have to juggle MME. Or it may be possible because a lot of businesses businesses are offering and allowing, you know telecommuting. But for some families assistant Lee not a possibility, so it's a strain on them in New York, Of course, the government came along and said the New York City mayor said Well because we are going to probably not have schools this year. We're going to create a government program to provide daycare to Ah families that need it. And I'm thinking to myself. Isn't that what a schools to find as I mean, you guys aren't actually teaching these kids. It's too liberal. The curriculum is too liberal. Daycare, government run day care with what? Probably probably teachers that have time on their hands for like a. I already got a job, you know, teaching, but I'm not teaching disconnecting the paycheck. So why don't I sign up during the day to also do daycare? That'd be so awesome to pay checks from the government. You're laughing now, but it actually is going to happen. Mark Mark my words, Nothing. Nothing prevents people from doing that. But the point being, it's gonna have an impact to the economy, and it's actually gonna have an impact on kids Health. Most kids are going to sit there and say, Oh, cool. I get to stay home. I don't have to go to school. But this announcement today from the California Interscholastic Federation Is going to cause a lot of depression for a lot of kids and a lot of parents as well. Lot of parents live through their kids, various sport sports engagements. The CF California Interscholastic Federation announced that Athletics are going to be postponed. Now when they say postponed right now, July 20th Lou don't can we Can we just simply translate that into truth? And that is we're not doing it in 2021 at all, You know, 2020 2021. That school year is done, of course, right. I mean, it's it's not gonna happen. There's no way you could you could gear up on you know, it's not like just a couple of days loss and then you start right back up again every day. That a child is not in sports every day that a child that is not in the classroom learning it's it's lost its learning loss that will take many, many, many days and weeks to get back on track, Just like any other practice, whether you put down a violin for a year, you're not going to be as good as you were when you left ofthe same thing with any any sporting event or just your brain itself. They say that they were hoping to see fall sports start in December or January 2020 and 2021. So what's affected immediately would be volleyball, football, water polo Cross country. All pushed back to the earliest being December 2020 But most of the sports participated in outdoors their way We're getting haircuts outside, We're jumping through hoops to get everybody's Akio dining room table out. Yeah, well, that's outdoors except water polo. But I'm sure you could figure something out there. There's outdoor pools. I mean, you just figure out where to go, But here's the thing. It is outdoors. It shouldn't have that big of an issue. I do know that there are studies that show that Cove in 19 Khun B. Transmitted when people are breathing heavy, you know? So when you're physically you know, active That can't be a risk. So I'm gonna put that on the table. But you are outdoors and that's been seen is like the best place to be to reduce transmission. And on top of that, you have all these studies showing that kids seem to be to quote that German researcher seemed to be the brakes for the covert 19 pumping the brakes. So I'm not sure that this is a a good decision. Again. If I had to trade off, I'd put kids back in the classroom. But this is a big deal for kids that really you know, they go to school just so that they could do the sports. The sports is the biggest part for them, and for some of her family, some of their parents Now, think about this. If you delay even best case scenario, if you delay these sports volleyball, football, water polo in cross country until December at the earliest. Let's assume magic wand that December we can start up again. These kids also usually play other sports for winter and spring..

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

01:30 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"DeMaio and Penrose Today at three on news Radio 600 Koga It's a 10. It's Monday morning. This is San Diego's Morning news. Many parents scrambling to figure out what to do with their kids because Schools on schools office was on schools up. Oh, you know, picks Cove. It works on works off works. Yeah, Nobody knows. So we'll be talking to a man who knows all about this coming up live real time traffic first every 10 minutes on the tens. Here's Kevin Dean. Pretty good driver on the county today. Whether you're heading out to work or just heading out to get out of the house is going to be an easy drive of it. Out on the freeways. Full speed. No major incidents or accidents get anyway. This time round from your always sunny San Diego Honda Divas Traffic Center. Nice drive over the bridge. Easy getting out through the streets, Coronado and onto the base there a little bit of slow down north bound on the strand early around the amphibious basics like that signal may have been stuck on red for awhile, but they got that taken care of great driving from the East County as well. This report is sponsored by express post dot com Mark your calendars expressed employment professionals is once again Posting National Interview Day on August 6th. The special event supports hiring as businesses continue to reopen and business ramps back up. Apply online today visit express pros dot com slash interview day to find a location near you. I'm giving Dean Coco's next real time traffic update just 10 minutes away. Mostly sunny today after those clouds burn off coast, up to 72 inland, 80 for the mountains, 82 the deserts up to 112. Right now downtown. We.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

07:52 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"All the while Lou Penrose here on newsradio six hundred cocoa and so you got the the anyone who wants to call these folks looters rioters or is the White House did thugs they're gonna be they're gonna be censored apparently you can't call on that but what else do you call people trashing and stealing from stores and lighting fire to buildings that sounds like a right to me it's not a picnic in the park it was interesting as I saw this piece Lou and I sent it over to you it was from refinery twenty nine and I want to read this because when you see this it's just crazy Kerrier says why are protesters being framed as the problem answer white supremacy so every once in a while I dig deep into the psyche of the left leftist and try to figure out like what okay so what are they said they saying about this I haven't seen those little pictures on the internet where there's the address and people are saying what color is the dress is it gold is a blue you know you've seen that I have to give people see it differently this is this is not that okay they're not looking at the protests slash riders and and and you know you're seeing you know gold or blue they're looking at eight eighty eight eighty have a donkey and they're seeing a rocket or space alien and it's it's that it's not like you know there's a difference in perception of color now you literally see a different object in front of you and that's the only thing that comes to mind when I read this but in this in this piece by Brittany day lack credit has it was published yesterday she basically says that calling it protests is the reflection of white supremacy quote it repeats what the police delivered nearly verbatim and uncritically the dominant media itself is a tool of white supremacy the media uses phrases like officer involved shooting wit and will switch to a passive voice when a black man is shot by a white vigilante over a police officer quote shots were fired at I don't see that no I don't I don't see that but the these people do see that I mean they they're looking I mean they're parsing everything to try and prove the narrative that the state be established point is going to be that white people are I think they have a supremacist they have it and you know a superiority complex and all this and then they try and find little almost conspiratorial in their you know in their media to try and find little bits that fill this this story as she goes on to say instead of putting the protests in context of showing how people are fighting back against a system which they have no power by disrupting it in any way they can I'll just point out the officer has been charged with a higher power of course and then did some people think that it is is what is viable quote mainstream media instead tends to focus on the sensationalized images of protesters breaking the social codes breaking social codes they're breaking in my dear they're stealing their lighting things on fire they're trashing places in worse than anything else is this quote she goes on to to say that looting is is is is is is is a is a tough job okay here it is I tourney Preston Mitchum says that quote one day we're going to reconcile that looting doesn't randomly happen is triggered by screaming and not being heard it is triggered by seeing us be killed with no justice we are going to have to reconcile that none of us said it was the answer and rooted in trauma but she goes on to say ready for this white people deploy the idea of looting in a way that implies people of color are greedy and lazy but it is just the opposite looting is a hard one and dangerous act oh my god you know I can't I I I I can see like one of these leaders coming home at night and their girlfriend there hello you know what they're for their fourteenth you know what team girlfriend is sitting there huh what what was your date well well it was a real real tough day at work I literally had to break into four stores and I had the card out six shopping carts worth of TV sets and stereos it was rough man the worst part is this is the kind of you know of academic analysis that's going on in major college campuses right now with respect to sociology that that that that that's a product of of of of so much over analysis and a desire to project your point of view into a societal trend I mean it's just that's that's gobbledygook right there the I. leading looting is hard one no wonder the left doesn't want to punish people in prison they see it as literally something that they should be given accolades for war but it's a reasonable struggles of white wow but you you had seven felony burglaries and you had two gang rapes but made you have really achieved some great things I'd call that a hard won achievements so hard one looting is a crime my dear looting has impacts on everybody in the community it is against the law it is wrong don't sit here and celebrate it and by the way this idea that the way that the media is trying to sensationalize looting and burning them per trade as as weak minorities are lazy minorities that wasn't just minorities looting there were there are there are there were white people black people brown people all kinds of people looting stores and stealing stuff so the looters don't do not represent those who are mortified terrified or otherwise outraged at this senseless killing of this poor man the looters are are taking advantage of the situation looters are are on the other side of justice did not trying to help things it just trying to look out for themselves and take advantage of the fact that the cops aren't available right now because they're in right here so let's break into the target take you know about PC and PS a PS four I mean it's it's absolutely ridiculous she goes on to argue a news media wake up it is your job to help your audience understand why a story about a protest comment which you call a riot comma isn't about the property damage the story is one of pain caused injustice left unsettled civil rights are protected no my dear if you protest your story will be about a protest was held about police brutality I guarantee you this media will give you that if someone on the right protests covert nineteen restrictions I go too far it's not a protest about freedom it's not a protest about economic pain it's not a protest about people who disagree with the public health strategy the wages they describe our protest which is always peaceful and has you know the signs it's a real protest is not looting is not writing it's right wing extremists and the is staged protest leading to increased covert nineteen cases that's how it's ranked right that's always the way it is for him do you have that right I a quick break we'll be back more this on the divide report called the violin New Penrose on newsradio six hundred cocoa but first traffic and they're always sunny San Diego Hyundai dealers traffic center the ride into macula continues to get worse from the seventy six to Winchester forty nine minutes were the traffic.

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"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

06:24 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Today my report called a mile in the Penrose on newsradio six hundred coat the lockdown may have been a waste of time and may have killed more people than it saved according to one noble laureate Karl yep we ended in this is being proven out now by the data by a experiment experimental studies as well as just looking at other states that are going just fine even though they re opened a lot earlier than California and all that some of the other jurisdictions with stringent lockdowns Michael Levitt who's a Nobel laureate case that means that yeah this guy is smart enough to get some of these other yahoos to give him a statue were an award Nobel laureate Michael Albert let it Stanford University professor suggested that the decision to keep people indoors was motivated by quote panic rather than the best science he said the modeling was way off any sites one of the guys that got the most attention Lou at the beginning and that was Neil Ferguson this is a professor in the United Kingdom who said that in just a minute can do alone five hundred thousand five hundred thousand people would die from the virus if no action was taken he also said that two million people in the U. S. would die if no action what what were taken he's the same guy that said that fifty thousand people in Sweden which would die if no action in that country were taken they've had about twenty seven hundred people die so far and his models were so far off that the government actually had to set them aside and discontinue using them now he is no longer with the British government but not because he was fired he decided to violate the lockdown order and go have sex with his mistress of married woman and he was caught doing that so he said he would resign because it wasn't you know showing a good example for others who should be locked down I don't care what the hell you do with your personal time is between you and her and your wife and her husband I care about the fact that you had ever now shut down based on faulty and phony science phony baloney fake science that influenced public policy the world world around it's it's so rich that that was the reason that he got busted for violating his own edicts up for everybody else has to go haven't elegance but nonetheless you're right it is more of do what I say not as I as I do and we're seeing that there's more more examples of that so this again just puts more pressure on the price on the public trust but here's the thing this is Neil Ferguson guy nobody really knew him we just found out that he had this model that the US is scientists used in the British scientists use that showed you know you know coronavirus was gonna be this terrible epidemic but this is the same guy Neil Ferguson who in two thousand five predicted two hundred million people would die from the blood flow the what the total deaths over the last fifteen years have been from the bird flu out four hundred fifty five right it did in two thousand nine the same idiot comes out in two thousand nine saying that sixty five thousand people in the U. K. would die from swine flu our number actually ended up being three hundred ninety two so Lou I look at this and say wait this guy's been wrong so many times and then he's got a model that seems pretty extraordinary thank you all taken matters word I gotta say I'm getting excited by this failure because now I get to bring this up every time those same swarm me malnourished scientists are talking about climate change and the user more models that we're all gonna die I'm upset with everybody hold on just because you have some academic paper and a model saying that give all your money and and freedom to the government or something bad's going to happen I'm not gonna buy it because well frankly you all were wrong on the corona virus so shut your mouth unless you have actual concrete evidence and proof the the notion that the this was our decisions were motivated by panic rather than the best science that's the part that really does bother me because what what is acting out of an abundance of caution what is acting out of an abundance of caution when it comes to limiting civil liberties and civil rights if if nothing else the panic I eat your elected leaders are supposed to weigh those two things and they clearly over compensated over the abundance of caution and just limit people's freedoms altogether and are still doing NY's as a great peace at real clear politics he's look at all the data are both for inspection rates as well as for death rates and the infection vitality rate for most people under sixty five years old is no more dangerous than driving thirteen a hundred one miles per day the odds of a covert nineteen deaths taking your life are roughly in line with the existing baseline odds of you dying they share up yes Sir through other causes so Lou and it would be bounding yeah nothing on Natalie yeah as we read it and we sit here and realize that the economy is still shut down twenty percent unemployment but that we're not just tossing all these restrictions out the window and no one ever answered that question what what what how long is this face mask and social distancing supposed to be going on for but when we come back we can talk about this group think idea this idea that group think may have drove the unnecessary lockdowns that's next on my report first traffic and working hi guys from your always sunny San Diego wanted dealers traffic center our ladder of the day is south of one sixty three this is just before university and it's in the fast lane there's an accident northbound fifteen after Winchester into that to make your love valley traffic is a little backed up behind it I'm Laurie came close next real time traffic update is.

Penrose
"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

08:38 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"At Carlisle at Lou Penrose your take on the vacuous and non specified re opening is standards that have been put out most businesses are still scratching their heads what we do and how do we do it and I'm my view is this use your common sense go out there do what's right for your employees do what's right for your your customers talk to other business owners talk to trade associations yes consult the county but I don't wanna do this and how heavy handed way because you know what thus far they've not been right about their projections and how to do things remember these are the same idiots that told us don't wear masks at the beginning of this an hour saying you shall wear masks or we'll take it you they've been wrong before continue to be wrong going forward because that's the problem that I think so many people have you know they're not using common sense I mean you know what I agree with you use common sense but what book if if we would if if if we use common sense when when we go forward to do things on Friday and that the county power the powers that be decided that we were not using their version of common sense then we're in trouble and they're not with the business owner is always wrong in this in this set up because of the county decides what common sense is even if it isn't common sense like not being able to sit on the beach but being able to walk on the beach it here did you have to break you have to practice social distancing some places in other places is a better car yeah you get a car drive to a golf course but you can't drive you can't set the golf cart I mean yep that's the common sense of the county is offering and I've had so many people you know that we have a lot of people saying you know great Carl and lu you guys are actually spot on but I also have the occasional you know socialist or liberal or status or even sometimes Republican say we release the experts they know both sides and we don't well they haven't been right so far it come back to the example I I read yesterday I I laid out yesterday because Sweden is a case study for us to point to not only do we get to point to the fact that in in the United States their models were wildly off in the death rate looks like it's in in line with the aggressive strain of flu but in in in Sweden they opted not to do draconian lockdowns they did a common sense approach Hey wash your hands try to be more socially distant make sure as a business you clean things up a bit mark cetera and it worked because they have had a a manageable caseload their healthcare system is not become overwhelmed they have been able to keep their economy rolling along more importantly in Sweden they are now building herd immunity meaning it has less chance of spreading as we go forward because once you get it you have the antibodies you won't get it again you won't be but transmitting it to others herd immunity they think is sixty to seventy percent right now they're about last documented by two weeks ago thirty five thirty eight percent well on their way to that that stage but to the point when you say what we have to believe the experts we have to follow their advice they got science the experts said that if Sweden did not shut down by may first their healthcare system would collapse they would be completely inundated with forty thousand deaths well guess what may first about twenty four hundred deaths so again don't sit here and one that is too many you got right here totally agree totally agree but but don't sit here and throw bottles in my face and well experts say when the experts have been so utterly wrong what we know factually has occurred is that people have lost their jobs and that businesses are on the brink of bankruptcy if not shattered and so you you look at this and and and we're not saying we open and and go around high fiving everybody I had kids and everybody what we're saying is reopen treat people as adults that's the notion of American freedom it the constitution are for our civil rights treat people like adults give them the information continue to build capacity in our health care system and we can get through this this approach has failed okay by any measure cost benefit the approach has failed and he would like say we're saving lives I would argue that we wouldn't have as many lives that we're gonna be lost in the first place and secondly we are decimating lives through the economic impacts the mental health impacts that were seen and so now I am not willing to even go down that road and by the way the increased death rate compared with last year that we have seen isn't covered nineteen because this hospitals have a financial reason to cook classify every death as covert nineteen because they get more money these increased deaths I've been I've been theorized by health care experts as deaths occurring because people with other conditions were too afraid to go to the hospital to urgent care to their doctor to get care to manage something that was coming on and instead it got out of control and they died so spare me the you want people to die lecture because you have the data doesn't support that either no it doesn't support and there's one more thing and this I'm gonna put this down this is something that called my own nose and the Penrose nose and a lot of people don't know and it's a little secret just because you're an elected official doesn't mean you're smart so this idea that we need to listen to the elected officials listen to leadership the governor Newsom has does not have a degree in public health get native Fletcher does not have a degree in public health and the public health experts Dr Wilma Wooten she's an unelected person so she has been vetted by the taxpayer or the voter so you know you have to keep things in check just because they're on television doesn't necessarily mean they're smart we don't offer a lot of politicians that are anything but smart you mean Dr Wilma Wooten the same one who drag their feet and we had a bunch of hepatitis a deaths with homeless people two years ago Kevin Pham everything Fletcher same people I mean I mean seriously again I I I I I I'm not gonna sit here and say that we're not appreciative of the work these folks do we are appreciative but they are not infallible and that is not what we're making and we want to see justified fact based evidence based peer reviewed cost benefit analysis ized policy as we go forward because lives and livelihoods are on the line and that's what common sense people do what what what what frankly I'll just say what fools do is they put their head in the sand and they accept whatever the bureaucrats say when evidence continues to pop up to par to pile up that they're wrong they're dead wrong I coming up I we got a big story about senior homes in California and you need to hear about it that's coming up next on the to my report call the mile and lieutenant on newsradio six hundred Kobo first let us check in again with lower case the looming Carl well the border wait is not pleasant but it's not as bad as it was yesterday it's an hour and twenty five minutes at Santa C. drive to cross over time he said fifty minutes in a crash clearing west backdated to one twenty five I'm Laura came because next real time traffic update is at three thirty two okay so last week I checked in with my friends at the Remington club in Rancho Bernardo this is the retirement community that's like living in a resort and they're doing an amazing job over there their residents are happy they're healthy and they've stayed connected with families because the Remington club team has been using technology at the end good old fashioned telephone sometimes to make sure that their residents continued to connect with their families in fact some of the residents say that they feel even more connected on several levels then before with the new programs that they've got going on the remedy club is like living in a resort with the salon and barber shop fitness center the pool restaurant style dining and people love the food game a movie nights and of course happy hours to get to know the neighbors now many of those programs have been redesigned so that they do social distancing in fact I got bingo where everyone goes to their doors and they.

Carlisle Lou Penrose
"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

04:27 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"In lieu Penrose on newsradio six hundred cocoa the real quick before we move on from the trump briefings to other bases we got a head trump did congratulate Congress on the five hundred billion dollar aid package I don't think there's any congratulating to be done here this thing hold it up like a Christmas tree it's I mean it's just me so my me what why have budgets anymore I mean we haven't trim back any other function of the federal government to offset even a portion of this certainly there's got to be some areas of the federal government where we could save some money at that it's not absolutely necessary to be able to offset some of this but no did you know it go ahead and just loaded up you started two hundred billion dollars end up at five hundred yes five hundred billion dollars and everybody's happy it passes unanimously the Democrats win the Republicans win in the taxpayer loses I think the Republicans lose because I think their base they're seeing this as a disgusting display of fiscal recklessness and the it's only the Democrats are moving the needle only the Democrats are actually getting what they want out of it is that the package originally was not structured as but the fiscal conservatives like you and I wanted to see it just as a loan with a bunch of deregulation nope it was just basically free money they column loans is basically free money then you got groups like Harvard University with a forty billion dollar endowment that came up at the press conference getting these loans are supposed to go to small business organizations they're getting money shake shack is getting money publicly traded companies billions of dollars of backing and so you look at this and you say no this is not accountable and yet they're putting more and more into it so that is a very disheartening development on the other side of the coin trump getting heat for his executive order suspending legal immigration during the period of time for us to deal with corona virus he says I don't want Americans losing jobs that are being taken by immigrants and particularly illegal immigrants so we got a crack down on that what's interesting there is he gets accused of politicizing the corona virus not a whiff of that from the media against the Democrats who are doing it in spades but more importantly I want to see more of this I want to see Republicans take their agenda and start using the crown of virus to advance their agenda in it and people honestly because that's politicizing you want you want to get us open you want to get us back to work then take away the crisis do you work from the Democrats right now there's no reason for Democrats to want people to get back to work they don't want this thing to get solved they still want to infringe upon our freedoms and scare the crap out of us why they're getting their political agenda advanced this is a very useful vehicle just like climate change has been a very useful vehicle why would they want to solve it at this point that's what that's why I say look at these numbers it doesn't add up on a on a public health basis and then I look at the politics and I'm like the only wrong in the public health but they're benefiting it from it politically and it's so interesting to see the Democrats squirm as trump now turns the tables on the immigration issue I mean we talk about Hey it's a sixty billion dollars for economic disaster loan program seventy five billion for local hospitals another twenty five billion for expanding of testing and and then of course you have the mayor of New York complaining that there's not enough for local city governments you Democrats look this they they love just the treasury opened up and and and and creating all kinds of money for for you know this is their constituencies so yeah this is a Democrat dream why would they want to come to an end by the way trump did demand that Harvard is going to have to repay that money which I love good okay switching to the the county here county held a hearing today I actually sat through the County Board meeting this morning we had on county supervisor Jim Desmond yesterday who promised he would fight for us he would fight to reopen the economy and true true was word he dead dozen presented a video clip of some business owners in their own voice talking about how they wanted to get back to work this was presented at the board meeting we got a highlight of it let's go to audio one I do want five seconds I don't hear anyone who knows.

Penrose
"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

07:46 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Four six I called my and Penrose we're asking your input on the great debate the great debate is going to really I think kick into overdrive next week and we actually might see people go out into the streets protesting showing up at government buildings really getting hot and bothered and that is when can we get back our lives when can I go back to work when can we get our freedoms back has government gone too far have they been Abed overreacted should we go to a different paradigm of managing the risk of corona virus that's one course then the other choruses now it's working you idiots stay inside we finally got it bench we finally bent the curve and if we even relax a little bit it's just going to go out of control those are the two diametrically opposed positions and somewhere in the middle frankly is probably the right sensible public policy strategy but that's not where the media is leading us right now the media right now is think is still two or three weeks behind they're saying how many people died how many people got what one of the one of the loan checks coming out sick right but what I think of it yeah let's let's you know yes be asking this question but the bigger question is what we get ourselves into and did we make the right decision and that maybe we need to evolve our approach and refine it based on the experience that we have experienced Audi of data maybe now we refine it none other than the Attorney General who is the chop top law enforcement officer in our country and by the way as he turned in general is sworn to uphold the constitution and has to advise the president on things in every federal department that are either constitutional or not and remember the Solicitor General reports to the Attorney General Solicitor General has to present things to the Supreme Court cases and whether or not they're going to defend the policy or whether they're going to say it's unconstitutional the Attorney General bill bar yesterday said that he believes that many of the states have imposed quote draconian mandates to try to stem this the the flow of coronavirus and believes that number one we should be quote very careful to make sure that the draconian measures that are being adopted are fully justified and they're not alternative ways of protecting people he went on to say that he was going to quote keep a careful eye on the state's use of broad powers to regulate the lives of their citizens Lou when I heard this I I was like amen brother finally we've got an Attorney General who's actually doing his job and saying I might I've swore to uphold the constitution of the state or local government official violates the federal constitution that becomes a matter under the purview of the U. S. department of justice yeah that was so great that the you have an Attorney General is actually talking about freedom that understands that the constitution is there to limit government not limit individuals the constitution is there to protect the individual from an over reaching government and he's basically saying that the conditions are ripe for for government to in Croce government will always over reach they always will they have to be pushed back it's just the nature of government they they have to be checked at all times and constantly and that you know what to call you and I are asking these questions without without whining I I think that's a very reasonable questions to be asking you know what what's the game plan here you mentioned in the last segment that Los Angeles is six extended stay at home you know orders until mid may well the graph the I. H. M. ET the institute for health metrics and evaluation graph that everyone's looking at the graph shows that it'll all the curve is done by me by may fifteenth that means that the last day of the curve is may eighth there's there's no curve left the curvature right at zero so why it why then would you under what Max would you need to go into mid may for everyone to stay home when the snow curve left on the graph that everyone's talking about and then further more of when you say we'd like you to stay at home that's it that's a recommendation but can you actually enforce it what what bar is basically saying is the answer may be no and and and and if you take a look at case office I spent some time really digging into this can government tell you tell everyone you must stay at home and I've talked to a number of lawyers about and I looked at the case all and the answer seems to be now and here's why the cabinet the Supreme Court federal courts local courts have all used a standard which is if the government wants to infringe upon rights of individuals it must make an individual basis it must stipulate this one individual or this one individual product is dangerous so for example of the government can't do what would basically some states have said they were going to do yesterday tell Walmart that they're not allowed to sell certain items that they deem nonessential debasing banning the sale of it well you can't do that you can do is say we believe that cocaine is bad for your health and we're gonna ban cocaine because you're making the case with data about one specific product you can do that under our constitution we can't say we're gonna take broad products and just you know all products except for food and we're going to infringe upon those freedoms same thing for individuals they can't say everybody has to stay home what they can do is say this person with corona virus this one person with this diagnosis with this disease has to stay at home and even that is hard Lou because you literally have someone being told that they're putting being put under arrest all right and where is the due process what we get when they charged with the crime that's the courts of always seem restrictions on movement and freedom to be eighty eight high bar that government has to meet it has to be done on an individual basis none of that lose happened and I think bill Barr who loves a lot this is a guy who's the lawyer lawyer okay he he he's so good on the law he's so professional he's so straight laced about it kind of boring at times but that's part of his charm he comes out he says the stock was passing muster okay first year law student needs to look at the same oh god this is embarrassing the reason why we've allowed them to do it thus far Lou is because of the crisis now that we are seemingly reconsidering the nature of the crisis these issues are all going to come up and they have to be made may be raised by by bill Barr to his credit yeah we have the Attorney General actually looking out for the individual liberties of Americans love it and your right call this is gonna be the big discussion now as we go into next week are coming up does the government want you to spy on your neighbors and report them we'll take a look at it that's next on the to my report called myelin depend rose on news radio six under cocoa first let's check traffic in arcane this report is sponsored by compassion international spin out cell phone eight oh five just after university another spin out this one is on west validate just before college northbound eight oh five at the eight a crash there and sell some five.

Penrose
"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

The Portal

14:16 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

"Right word is to find that the number the number dimensions of this family right which was six six dimensional family. What's the dimension of family of light rays five to the ones? Did you actually see directly in the light. Rays that's the real thing and the thing which governing in the mysterious complex World Adwan one-dimensional they can twist right-handed that's one way left-handed sailor way devising thinking to exactly what I was looking for. Fantastic that that. Additionally we had this structure of three complex dimensions Yes yes but I I had to go back and get hold of my blackboard and try to work it up so so it was. It was a complex project three space. You have these two twisters. And I know pretty chuffed myself. Didn't realize this was you have a five dimensional space. which is this six real domestic especially if there's really three complex dimensions best into half so if I'm understanding you you would start Out off with a seven dimensional sphere. You take an action by circle to get the complex project of three space and then you could further a question that out by two spheres to get the four dimensional sphere. But it's you have to have even think of it as a sphere in Maybe I'm not seeing it correct. You can think of as as a sphere and Complex project you can think of a seven sphere. Let me just tell you what I find fascinating about. The story. Is that talking about a period travelling between two cities where you realize something is the hop vibration. It was how Asian. But I hadn't actually thought of it. You may not know the following go ahead. Yes isadore singer. I took the work of Jim Simon's and Frank Yang. Yeah on the trip to Oxford where you Michael were said. Oh my God. This is the quad rather than the complex vibration. He said it was insanity when he realized that the self dual instant tonic quesions. We're going to be a revolution and so it was the exact moment of the relationship to something. Non Trivial trivial in his case as the Qu- attorney onic rather than the complex vibration. So this is almost an exact parallel between two stories. Because I've never heard yours before. That's it's very interesting. Also has relevant direct relevance direct. Yes because I think you were just saying because you think of the vector space for which the the complex three spaces and of course that's four complex dimensions and then that means eight real was look. I want to tie. Hi this into a bigger threat which I think is fascinating. I am not a VO TAE of string theory nor am I of loop quantum quantum gravity. I think that most of what has been said about super symmetry has been overbearing in wrong. I completely agree with all those things. And I think that the intellectual carnage from these adventures in political in Political Economy or public relations. Or whatever you WANNA on a call it are not being born by the people who benefited from them but by those who have to clean up after you don't have to say it because I'm not inside of the universities. Yeah no you know what I would claim is. Is that while these people. I think did a tremendous disservice for all of us taking what I consider to be our most accomplished intellectual community the history of academics theoretical physics. It is not the case that these people did nothing for forty five five plus years but what they did do has never been told properly so I claim to you at dinner the other night like if you just look at the role of curvature in our understanding of not only general relativity where it's been for over one hundred years But now in particle theory so we had a first revolution around the mid nineteen seventies with what's called the Woo Yang Dictionary where a particular geometry who becomes the most successful all hedge fund manager in human history meets arguably the most accomplished theoretical physics physicist. If it's not Weinberg it might be Yang in terms terms of what has been proven his contributions they have an unbelievable interaction which shows that the the classical theory underneath particle physics is as or more geometric than the theory of Einstein using steen rods. Fiber Bundles Been Aris months. Connections or vector potentials. When have you then you have a second revolution again involving so that was the first one that is singer takes from Stony Brooke Awkward? Yes you have another one. which is the geometric quantification revolution with your colleague? Nick woodhouse writing the Bible there. Yes yes yes. In which Heisenberg uncertainty relations strangely come out of curvature rather than just being some sort of conduct you look in connection in a bundle. Well there's this thing called the pre quantum line bundle. We're line is again. A one of these planes terminologies all screwed up nevertheless. Listen the key point is. Is that what we had previously treated. As the annoyance of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle became the the beauty of a geometric quantum so now you had the underlying classical theory is geometric the underlying quantum theory is now geometric metric and then again with your English group. Particularly Graham. SEGEL's is a is a real hero with Michael pointing the pointing the way you guys figure out that this weird grab bag that was called quantum field theory. which is this thing above quantum mechanics that is needed for if you're going to have particles that change regimes in which the number of particles changes like something emits? A photon unique quantum field theory. You can't do quantum mechanics so that world was a grab bag that made absolutely no effing sense. Pedagogic lead anybody coming from outside of the discipline and what they taught us and this is coming from the nineteen eighties. On is the quantum field theory would have been discovered by apologists and geometry's dominators even if the physical world had never used it because it was actually a naturally occurring augmentation of what's called boredom theory which is an enhancement of what you've previously referred to Komala Judy so these are three separate revolutions with people that almost. Nobody's ever heard of like Luis. Alvarez has gourmet and you know and Dan Quinlan who I think is the world's greatest accidental. Quantum field theorist for some reason the physics community's still telling us stories about entanglement and about multi verses and many worlds and this actual thing that happened which is as gorgeous as anything I've ever seen has been a revolution that's been plowing through. Mathematics and physics is covered up because they want to tell a story about quantum gravity which just doesn't hang together what the F.. Yeah I think I mean. That's a wildly off. No I don't think you are. You see I mean a lot of these things I wish I knew more about you. See for example Crillon Arlen theory and so on which which life is too short but these asking out of the Attiyah singer theory where yeah he fines these determinant lines which are coming out of non-local spectral information and building the basis Ace's may be for pre quantum line bundles in which the functions in that world become the waves. That give us a theory. I think the trouble here you see. Mathematics is fool of all sorts of beautiful deep theory and most of mathematics as it exists now in the sense of what's written in journals and so on has almost no bearing on the physical world. Now you see I feel totally convinced and I think you're expressing something similar that if you find the right route through this stuff you will really find the key to what we're seeing the physical world now. We've found many such keys. He's and Gen relativity to the Laurentian version of Romanian semi reminding or suit or Romani. Yes Rumanian geometry. So that's picked up a beautiful area of mathematics intended into into into physics and and then in reverse give back to mathematics and also with quantum quantum theory clearly and quantum field theory but I think there are things that are hiding their which are very beautiful mathematics and which will reveal themselves as important in the physics. We haven't got to it. What do you make of the fact that we now have three separate geometry's have reminding geometry as the parent in general relativity? Yes you have aris money in geometry which is based on these penrose stairs coming from fiber bundle theory which is the parent aren't of the maxwell classical theory but also the classical theory that would be underneath the strong force holding pro. I WANNA Rappel in the weak force which causes Beta decay all right and then you've got this other geometric theory which is the geometric quantum and. They're not the same geometry so for example the geometry that that Jim Simons and CNN Yang and fund has this property called gauge symmetry. You have the opportunity for gauge symmetry in the Einstein theory but it because I kn- Stein takes curvature and uses something called Linear Algebra to project all of the curvature overture information into a smaller subset killing off something called Vile curvature if you gauge symmetry and then project it's not the same as projecting and then gauge symmetry rising so the opportunity to use gauge theory is lost by the specific genius. Leinster way she is a good example example because he did this amazing thing producing general relativity but then in his later years he tried to develop a theory and these unified field theories which from a mathematical point of view was not really a very. It's not likely to give much new insights but it was right to think you should find a unified scheme and so on bring the well. He trouble trouble is he didn't really he considered electromagnetism but the particle Physics didn't play much of a role in when he was he died before quirks were. That's true he never. He was innocent. Su Three and its various. Yes I think the thing is. There's huge beautiful things in mathematics and we like to think and I like to. I think that they do have a role in fundamental. Ro- rose that we've not yet discovered in operating whether we the way the world works. This is dependent on very deep mathematics. The trouble is that there's so many wrong steps in the sense that many beautiful things in mathematics which garden in certain directions which from the point of view of mathematics a great and there can be generalizing ideas and and Revealing ailing all sorts of previously unknown beauties. But the proportion of these which we find has relevance the physics is is very small at the moment. Now I think that in some ways maybe the the most powerful the most Sure I mean complex numbers and the an analysis of complex numbers is one example. where he wants does seem to see a role in operating the way the world works? And I'm sure we will find other things it's just there are so many temptations interactions which are not particularly to do with interest in that. But what I don't understand Dan what I'm absolutely unsympathetic with is that we have a lot of people who once upon a time had a lot of different ideas now. Most of the ideas at the moment brutally honest it we're so constrained by this point in our story. Theoretical physics that almost every a new idea is dead on arrival unless you specifically keep it from predicting things that we don't see y'all yeah right. And so what I see is that you've got different and this is a sociological and economic critique. Is that you have a class of naughty boys who are very badly behaved who get to make all sorts of Claims who talk to the press incessantly over decades about all the wonderful things that are going need to do which they don't do and you've got another group of people whose feet are held to the fire where the instant they start to consider something that might for example violate a no go theorem They're roundly humiliated now. What I see you is having done is to carve out a very unusual niche twister? The theory is at a minimum an incredibly.

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"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

The Portal

14:27 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

"Have this weird way of talking about something that sounds like this we might call it like Non House Dwarf to policy but it is a house. Dwarfed apology yes it. The it's so the problem is it's pulling apart. Two different notions of the word close. That's right exactly that's right because you think of close means a small distance right so you imagine a little tiny ball. Distance from that point is small. We mathematics makes you pay for every attempt to sort of intuitively in code something. That isn't precise. Yes now. I wanted to see. I got to be distracted from leading up to the choices because that was uh well I needed the complex numbers that are needed. They Laurentian okay. We've got a lot you can do that. Goodness yes so Roger. Now we've we've been discussing the fact that these intuitions very very strange involving how so now. Think about Spaces of the type that Einstein and Makovsky and Korea were considering How does that begin to lead us? Towards these more speculative ideas of yours surrounding complex numbers and the twister program. I don't think many people many many of the May you have heard of it but even Even mathematics you have to know that you you are sort of seen as leaving a cult it had its own newsletter its own bizarre drawings it was very difficult. Communicate to members of the twister culled. Because they didn't speak like other people we had this twisted newsletter which was started off off by just in handwriting and it was duplicated and then let's not go into that for the moment. Very good talk about the base. Ah The origin of twisted here. If you like where did it come from. It was really in fact your big bet in physics. Do you think yeah I think so. Well you see it's between that and the cosmology but the COSMO is a bit different because not such okay. It's a wild idea but it's not a home body of wild ideas ideas which twisted theory more is But it has lots of connections with mathematics as pure mathematics and connections with his. Let me describe the basis basis of it. Because I think we've got most of the things we need to see. The light cone describes how from one point one event in space time all the different points of zero distance from it or another was all the light rays from that point. Now let me think of the other way around. That is my past light cone. So I'm sitting at a certain point in space time I look how the universe and all the light rays that get to me as a particular instant moment of my time. Come along this past like her. So that's you mentioned this couple stretching out into the past and getting bigger and bigger as it goes back in time and that's all the events which are in one moment of my time. I see those events so I see a lot of stars in the sky now. Let's suppose that I the Star Scott Clark points you see so that you have the sphere the celestial sphere which is my field vision matching myself out so that the earth was transparent. It's parents so you wear. That's why my just let's go out into space. I can be looking at the the world around me now. Let's imagine that an another astronaut order comes whizzing past me at nearly the speed of light and just as we passed each other. He looks he or she looks at the sky. The same moments Mitch's I do now. Because of a phenomenon known as aberration the stars will be slightly not in the same place with regard to that astronaut me This guy is somewhat distorted. But it's distorted in the very particular way which is what is conformable way. Say a simple way I happen to see configuration of stars that happened to be on the circle. Cyclic Sis then this astronaut passing by me would also see these in the circle even though the transformation would not be rotation of the spheres sky would be squashed up more than one end and stretched out at the other end but the thing about that transformation. It's something which I knew about from complex analysis days. Do you think of the. What's called the Riemann sphere? This is the plane of points in the complex. Explain or the vessel plane other point play the points represent the complex numbers so zero is in the middle of your like. And then you've I've got one on the new crop minus one an eye in minus either role in the circle and you go out and infinity is way out to infinity but the remains fear phones. All this up into his fear so infinity is not point so it's a little bit like if you have a caramel coating around an apple. You're folding ending that. At the point where the stick would go into the apple. All of the boundary of that candy would come together. Yes yes and it's what's called a steer graphic projection. You can project from the North Pole and all the other points flash not into the plane to all the points on the sphere except except for the point from which you're projecting exactly and that's called a stereo graphic projection and it has this remarkable property that it sends circles to circles or you could say it's conformable well that just angles are preserved. And it's a very beautiful transplant. I used to play around with these things just for fun of them now. The thing is that at the transformations of this sphere to itself which preserve the angles is also transformation which is what's called Among Analytical Column Hallam. OFFIC it's it's the most smooth transformation you can have. Just the analog of smooth is but for complex objects rather than real objects we're real and complex means the types of number. Yes that's right. So it's what's what's move is in complex analysis and those transformations which send the spheres sphere are exactly those in relativity so the different observers passing passing me different species looking at the same sky the map from my skies there skies is exactly these complex transformations nations of this fair. And this actually is what you exactly get when you use two components spinners and you see the description when you move from one observer to another UH is exactly those ones which transform the sky in this conform away to itself and often people found this puzzling. I find it puzzling. Originally because you had a sphere which is using an alien spaceship which is a sphere shooting. Pass you at nearly speed of light. Well you see the direction of motion it will be contracted by the Lawrence contraction. So when you look at it you should see it sort of flat out you. Don't because a sphere. A circle goes to a circle if you see it as circle when it's not moving you'll still see circle. I'm the boundary of this thing will look like a circle. Weight is moving and you you work away and think about it. Well you see where the light rays go on the front of it in the back of as you see really you don't see the flattening. It really doesn't look like a like a circle. Its boundary looks like a cycle race paper on this almost him simultaneously. There was a somebody elsewhere to pay small circles and spheres But this transformation that really what started me off if I understand correctly it maybe I don't We have another mutual acquaintance Our friend Rahul Bhatt and he showed us that the world world seems to repeat every eight dimensions in a certain way but during the first cycle of what you might call periodicity from zero to seven or one and eight depending on how you like to Kenya. Yeah you get these things called low dimensional coincidences. Oh yes and so that. They don't recur because of your point point earlier about spinners that spinners grow exponentially whereas vectors grow linearly inside and but during the first period where these things are of comparable purple strength. Yes you'd get all of these Objects where depending upon you defined in two different contexts. You turn out to be the same object. That's right you're making use of that here. It is that it's the Lawrence Group for like you know the rotations of space and time which we might call? So one three or S O n three double cover would be equal to something else called S. L. to see which would mention complex numbers even even though there's no complex numbers to be seen in space and time. Yeah it depends on that one of those. Coincidences was triple coincidence. I think you said they got a coincidence. Ordinance which one is depending upon in this description but the point of making here is that in a certain sense. Relativity tippety is described when you do it in the to spin form which is really expressed in this fact that is the transformation of the Riemann sphere to itself which is complex transformation. This is the most general transformation of the sphere to itself when you think of that. Sphere as agreements fear so. It's a complex. One dimensional space. You must surely it's well. It's due to mental in real numbers but one dimensional and complex numbers because the complex each complex numbers carries the information to real nuts over example mathematicians would call what most people call the complex plane. They might call it a complex line. It's complex line. That's right and so the language again is intended to make things very hostile to the newbie. Yes that's true but you have to get used to the idea together when you're thinking complex when you think of it sort of really so the concrete in in the real terms that you have to double the number of real dimensions to get the the number of complex. I want my audience. But I don't want them to feel stupid for making the mistake that everyone where you have the number of course yes so we have the eh complex numbers playing a fundamental role in relativity. That's really pointing. WanNa make. And it's the complex fear. So the Riemann sphere. which is this one? Dimensional in in complex sense two-dimensional in the real sense object which is fundamental. Now this. This remains fear appears in the most basic way in quantum mechanics to you think of the the spin now. That's the practically the most direct conflict the most direct quantum mechanical thing where you see quantum mechanics playing a real role as quantum mechanics which is hard to grasp Gormley. But you can see it here. The geometry works if you have an object spin half I the smallest non zero spin. You can have such an electron so think of an electron had has been half now what that means. This is that it's basically two states of spin which people call a spin up and spin down. What does that mean right? You put your thumb up like that right handed. Spin is where your fingers go. And that's been up means right. Handed about spin down is right handed about Donna's that's left handed in my lap and those are the two basic states. But what's special about happened down nothing so you think of what about right left forwards backwards all those combinations combinations of up and down and their complex combinations through these complex numbers which lie at the basis of quantum mechanics but here you can see in a visual way. What they're doing you see? You can say up down what's left and right where these combinations of up and down so you add this much of up to that much of dumb and you get to the to the rights and you minus it you get so left. I Times listen you get forwards about whatever it is and the complex numbers come in to describe these possible directions of spin. And is the Riemann sphere again. But you relating these complex numbers of quantum mechanics do the directions in space so you have a connection between these rather abstract attract numbers which are fundamental to quantum against and the much more concrete picture of directions in space but Roger. I think you're both let me be challenges slightly. Go on what you're really talking about is a very important fork in the road for physics six. Do you weigh yourself to the world that were actually given and you know mock was famous for having said this phrase the world has given only once wants and so we happen to know that there does exist a world that appears to be well modeled by three spatial temporal dimension that and then the key question his do you wish to have a more general theory. We can work in all dimensions or works works for all different divisions between how many spatial John How many temporal dimensions and what I see you having done which I think is incredibly noble. Brave and scientifically valid is to work with mathematics that are really particularize themselves to the World War given rather than sort of keeping some kind of like you're getting married to the world. We live in in a way that other people are just dating it and wishing to keep their options..

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"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

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12:58 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

"Well I mean there's a quite complicated story you see when I was a graduate student in Cambridge I think it was in my second year when the International Congress of Mathematicians took place in Amsterdam them and so I am a few friends society. We go to this meeting and I remember I think I was just about to get on Basser trama something and shown wildly. Who is a lecturer in in algebraic? Topology just just about to get off about getting on here had this catalogue in his hand of An exhibition in the van. Coc Museum and this was a picture The the one called nine day with birds flying off into the day and the knights and they check the changes of the spaces assist between the birds. One we go and I look out some mazing. What is that the COMPROM- it'll is you'd be very interested? This is In the Fan Gawk Museum there is this exhibition by article. Esha- so I've never heard of it before and I went to this exhibition and I was absolutely blown away. The most amazing thing I remember particularly one call relativity where people walk up the stairs. Gravity directions in two different ways. And I thought this is hugely impressive and I went away thinking well I like to do something impossible. See and I didn't see you had an idea about an impossible structure with bridges and roads and things like that so locally makes sense but as a whole it was inconsistent and and. I didn't think I'd seen anything quite like that in his exhibition. So I played around with this sort of whittled down to the triangle which people refer it was triborough so it's triangle which is locally completely consistent picture but as a whole it's impossible and doc showed this to my father and then he started drawing impossible buildings and and then he came up with this staircase so we decided we'd like to write a paper apor together on this and we had no idea what the subject was. I mean wh who said the paper likes to what journal so he decided sided since he knew the editor of the Journal of Psychology. And he thought he'd be able to get through. We decided to subject with psychology. Of course as you say it's not. It's more in a way mathematics because it's illustrates ideas. Well if coho malady and other things like that which which I didn't quite know I was at the time. And we wrote this paper and we gave some reference to Esher. I I think reference to the catalog and my father sent a copy to for a Dutch Frances the managed to get to and then my. I saw a correspondence So that was Lionel. Penrose Lonzo my father-in-law on this but I I actually visited visited issue. Then and and He had said to print to my father with a dedication to it and he gave me another so I and and I have in about in but in some sense I actually museum because I'm very indebted to you for this for this reason as when I when I have to describe what Jenna relatively is. Yeah and I don't wish to live the way. Everyone else lies from an alignment to do it differently. I say that you have to begin with four degrees of freedom and then you have to put rulers and pro tractors Into that system so that you can measure lengthen angle that gives rise miraculously to a derivative operator that measures rise over run that rise is measured from a reference is level. Those reference levels. Don't knit together. And they formed penrose stairs and the degree of or Penrose nece is what is measured by the curvature is your tensor which breaks into three pieces you throw one of them away called the vile curvature readjust the proportions of the other two and you set that equal to the amount of stuff now. That's a very long long causal chain. Yeah but it is linguistically an accurate description of what general relativity actually is is that it's also it was strait's Komala g which I was being interviewed. Oh ages ago by didn't know whether it's BBC. I can't remember what it was. There was an interview for some reason. They were interested in twisted theory now. They think they're interested what they thought they were right. And at one point they say well surprisingly rising love the beginning. They asked me what what good it will see. What can you use it for? So I said Oh you can use it to solve Maxwell's equations that's equations questions of let Christine Magnetism and light and so they address it they said. Oh how'd you do that. Well it's actually involves an idea that I couldn't really explain here. It's it's not N- possible to in a in a sort of popular. There's no what is it exactly. No no I couldn't do know what's the it's an idea it's Komala noack explained and so then I went back home and I was lying my benefit. I think you know it's this impossible. That's exactly Komala Judy. So so I went back the next day and tell them that they weren't interested. That didn't use it. I think I may have tried to explain. Yes we have a little something wishes locally consistent right but with an ambiguity about it so here be ambiguous is. You're not quite sure what you draw picture of it. The ambiguity is that you don't know how far away it is. It could be bigger and further away or smaller and closer and the picture was consistent. But you get an inconsistency if you go around around right and locally because you have a freedom yes you misuse this freedom in a sense so the glitch in it is impossible structure. Well so this is actually my son. My fourteen year old son's copy of the book. Yes and I was having to describe this to him. What Komala Al-Maliki was and I said That one forms which is a piece of technology In mathematics that you can analogize to radar guns so that while you're driving in the policeman shoots your car with the radar gun. He's measuring the component of speed in the direction of his gun. And Yeah so that's something that eats the vector of speed and spits out a number and you could imagine it a race track that wanted to have a circular Series of radar guns to measure the speed of cars going around now the question. Is You also recognize that you could and build a poor man's version of speed system by heating the track to some temperature measuring how quickly the temperature changes. The car are went over. But you can't actually have the one thing that you want. Which is the series of radar guns that are always measuring the speed going around the track because at some point at the temperatures going down down down down down down down? Then it's going to be ten degrees below wherever it started. which is your paradox again? Yes well there's a nice example. Somebody made like remember. Who Will you accompany? You have a bowl going up the stairs down which everybody's and you accompany that with a with a a a note going down and you can make it sound that keeps on going all the way up all the way up all the time by It makes you bring a new home only can go below yes sub perceptual so there. There's the auditory illusion that captures the yes. You'd have another surgeon at the same thing had this bowl bouncing around with that. That's not that's a bit of a cheat you. I mean my point would be that you're you're stairs or your penrose stairs are the cheat is that it appears to be flat in other words. It's very easy to achieve that on a curved object but what you did was to create the illusion as taking place in a plane or you can draw in a rectilinear system if you have an interpretation Asian of three dimensional thing which which is ambiguous and so you saw the movie inception of course where they they realized this act yes they have an instruction that there the fact is the sole of the aaronow bone effect which surprised the world in the late fifties because it was yes. Oh leads into the game. It is same thing that's right. Well of course like so many things. people point out this Oscar far. Who's WHO's a Swedish artist throwing things like this? Before I think roundabout the year I was born. He had a picture which is oh with cubes going. It wasn't exactly the same but I think I've seen these floors do under the cubes. Yes then he had versions with stairs staircases to let me. I never put any perspective in it which seemed to me. That was a missed opportunity. Yes now a my triangle. I did put some perspective. Yeah slightly you can see but you can do it with a perspective and it still works so what I want to get at is I think also that we have this very funny thing. That happened recently. Is starting from the early seventies where we started missed telling our own physics history history because of the needs of the community to look like we were succeeding when we weren't or we were succeeding at something different than we were trying succeed at and in part one of the reasons that I wanNA use This podcast to discuss science is to give alternate versions of what's happened Um and I want to explore one or two of them with you now. You and I have a very funny relationship which we don't really know each other but you were quite close to Michael Attiyah at various. Oh and I was relieved graduate students together in the same group same year absolutely same. Yeah but at the same supervisor. Incredible yes that's that's right and then you continue to cross pollinate ideas here the years. Yes that's now for for listeners. Who Don't know Michael? Tia was one of the absolutely the most dominant and generative I don't even know what to call him. It like beyond genius ear of type when he said she had such a brought understanding mathematics and geometry. Our generally and analysis incredible and Algebra wrote a book on on Commutative Algebra the Now he had a partner For much of his career Isadore singer who I was quite close to for a period of time and is was was again another one of these figures that if I'd never met when I wouldn't know that the human mind was capable of that level of repeated insight And they came up with something called the Tia. Singer Index theorem which governs world in which there are no time dimensions but only space dimensions or no space dimensions and only time dimensions but there's no yes equations without any differential equations differential equation if you think about differential equations as coming very often in three main fields of study elliptic hyperbolic and parabolic then the ideas that wave equations would be hyperbolic the type that you're worried about in physics but things like soap films look like elliptic equations and Teen Singer had this incredible insight into the nature of elliptic equations. Do you go ahead so I was GONNA say. Extremely General Theorem which covers goes over all sorts plus a different areas of mathematics and has application. What sort of tells you did? The the nodded -ness of some beautiful space that you might be exploring like some kind of high dimensional donut. That's nodded many times around itself. Whatever you want that? That topple logical nodded. nece tells you something about the kinds of waves that can dance on that space. Yeah Nice it's a very remarkable theorem sentenced Does that theorem in the so-called Elliptic category world of space in no time. Let's say relate late strongly in.

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"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

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13:08 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

"See direct had another thing that I There's a thing called. The directs is problem So you imagine the chair with which has the pieces of wood going out like this and you have a pair of scissors. I think this is direct. Jokic visit a pair of scissors and through the the. When you put your fingers you have a piece of string which goes through this and then goes around the chair and then comes back through the other one goes back again right now the problem? Is You take scissors. And you rotate them through three sixty three hundred sixty degrees and the strings all tangled up. You can't whatever you do. Oh you can't untangle it you're allowed to move this around parallel not rotate them and we can move the string round it and you cannot do it but you do twice three hundred four seven hundred twenty degrees to complete rotations and then you find you can untangling so this direct scissors problem and I think the the Joe because it's a pair of scissors and he wrote a paper explaining. I think Max Newman wrote wrote a paper direct did this illustration how you can undo it when it's minutes right for Pie. Trains to be but to prove that you couldn't do it with breath. This is next. Have you seen this video. Called air on the DIRAC string which illustrates this video seen. I would highly recommend it because it it shows that this off as the similarity to the belt tricked the F- y'all seen wine glass of wine. Different versions I find. I could do that one. The Joe Rogan. Try It. I think he got almost all the way round I am. I've done it with a glass. Yes you could like that and it comes back very stylish you can do to to complete rotations implementation. Yes so this is a very fundamental property of the world that is somehow not discussed. I think I find it very interesting. That People WanNa talk to me about the multi verse. Sometimes they WANNA talk to me but quantum measurement problem but the idea that we are somehow based on a square. It and I would disagree with you slightly if you would permit it. It's not just a question of the square root of the of the vectors. Here's it's a square root of the the algebra generated by the vectors. That really the the spinners are this exterior Clifford Algebra. This object has fascinated fascinated me my entire life and it's very strange that all of the stability of matter and and matters strange properties with electron shells. Are All all coming out of this weird. Not that appears everywhere in the universe and it's not universally known that it's even they're supposed to difference between the family owns the bones and so the particles which have a spin which is half an odd number right. which which have this curious property not that you rotate them and they get back to manage themselves? And it's crucial for from matter because the polly exclusion principle depends on the the family statistics which is to do with the this exact this property so without does not add Nissen the scissor trick or whatever you WANNA call it. We wouldn't have a periodic table and chemical elements. You wouldn't have anything without anything you wouldn't have you wouldn't have famines in otherwise we wouldn't have things which have an exclusion principle so and the Bozon's which are the opposite. They like to be on. If you have to Bozon's you can have them in the same state. Make rather like to be in the sense that so you get these things go bose-einstein condensates where to get the very cold. They all flocked together into the same state date but for the family owns. It's completely opposite. They hate to be in the same state or they can't be and this is what sort of push on the part of the family principle. So you have this thing called the spin. Statistics theorem. Yes says that if things have in nodded -ness of a particular kind. Then they either are highly individualistic or highly communistic. Whatever you WANNA call it? My question would be. There's another aspect of that that I've been very curious about which is when we have have to treat these objects quantum mechanically and you've of course thought a great deal on hindering. We have to totally different prescriptions. For how how to make these different objects quantum mechanical. But there's a one to one correspondence between these two utterly different treatments that matter enforce get quantum mechanically. It's the darndest thing when you get these two kinds of political two kinds of atoms Bozon's on the chamions and it has to do with the make a complete rotation. Do they come back to themselves. Or do they come back to minus and so that's the top logic. Yeah but then there's this whole flag go under Berra's in Integration which is no integration. At all I mean you're you're effective almost lying about Ah yes to make them look like Bose Johns and yet what we what we seem to get out of this is that nobody. I don't think anyone could of anticipated that there would be a dictionary of two totally different structures which are seems to be almost word for word. Because they're not totally different in the sense that you take to to fairmount system and you get a Bozon's so you I have the same. Yes that's right now. Yeah maybe I could ask you a little bit about that So I WANNA get to super symmetry but before for I do I sit. Yes okay gone. We're GONNA make you work this morning. I can understand that yeah. So here's my question am right. Correct that you've lived through two eras an era of fairly rapid development in testable fundamental physics. Coming from theory. I've tried to be very careful about setting that up so I don't walk into a trap and a stagnant stagnant theory era in which theoretical predictions coming at the level of fundamental theory have not been rapidly confirmed by experiment string theory. I'm thinking about a regime before for the early seventies and a regime following the earliest soup. Asymmetry that what you meant well it could be grand unified theory superstar battery technicolor. It'd be the add some topics it could be any one of a number of speculative theories from loop quantum gravity reggie calculus next string Korea. Shosha the kitchen sink. We've tried a million different things that don't it didn't really pan out well. It seems like well. If you'll permit an American Eric in Metaphor we've been waived into third base and we've been waiting for the signal that come home for about fifty years and we're not even sure that anyone even still you know they're at home plate. Well you see might be wrong playing the wrong game US travel. You think rounders would do it. Well I mean. There's a lot of intriguing. The ideas you mentioned basically. I think you are hinting. See Symmetry is one of them which may be thrown off close to ten. I I probab. I could do it pretty easily but I guess you had this nothing new about that. They were people. Were playing around with not something. I'm Kelvin with the idea. That knots might be at the basis of particle identity. Yeah I mean these ideas come back again in a different form but certainly in the I guess the nineteenth century people were playing with. Well I guess you can go back further than that Phlogiston. Well that's true but I would say that Maxwell was the first great condensation of theoretical ideas where an enormous amount of theory surrounding yeah magnetism electricity. Visible light invisible light. That was a huge huge right. And that all of those things now can be unpacked from a single geometric equation. That that's the thing I mean. People know about Galileo they know about Newton about Kepler a nobody on Stein and they made no about the the modern quantum field theory. Heisenberg rolling people. How many people know about Maxwell not enough not enough although Michael do have Maxwell's equations tattooed on their backsides let some people do but the general public don't know about maximum but Maxwell's equations? It's completely changed our way of looking at the world and we live without thinking. You've got these lights here. Well the visible light so we know you knew about visible light. But we didn't know anything about XRAYS. XRAYS radio waves. They're all part of the same scheme. electromagnetism Dinan well. Some of this goes back to Faraday just before Max Shurer so faraday had lot of the influential ideas electromagnetism. Well a little bit of that was known before I knew that if you had an electric current then and you guys magnetic field but it was the other way round with Maxwell now if you have a varying magnetic field you gotta current and you combine these ideas you can make a dynamo so these these things. Let's go to Tara. And he had sort of clues they might be some connection with light but he didn't have the equations. But even Max you know. I'm I'm very partial to this book on orchids that followed Darwin's origin of species. And it was the book he wrote. The title is And I always love reciting it. It's on the various contrivances by which British and foreign orchids fertilize by insects. and See why would you write a damn fool. Book like that after origin of species issues in the answer as he wanted to test whether he understood his own theory and in fact it's revealed that he didn't understand the full implications. I would say the same thing is true of Maxwell's equations. which is this is perhaps the best dress rehearsal for unification we've ever seen? Oh you know full unification and on the other hand. It's not until the late fifties that we actually unpacked the last trivial consequence of the theory with the this bizarre effect of passing an electron beam around insulated Wire yeah in fact. We had dinner last night. We we we asked Yuckier Aaronow if you wanted to come. But he's in Israel and he sends his regards. How you know? Send my back. Oh He's great fun. Dan I always but that was that was a very weird thing where we learned that If you have a an insulated Sahlin Oi side that the phase of the electron beam going in a circle around would be shifted. Despite the fact that the electromagnetic magnetic field could be treated zero because the electromagnetic potential this precursor yeah turned out to carry the actual content that it before that it had had been thought that that was just a sort of convenience product to recover electromagnetism and it turned out that the geometric object was more important. And you know in part. The reason I bring this up is that we would have no way of visualizing this effect if it were not for your interaction with MCI. Now you have to explain that one You know this this etching called ascending descending. Oh Oh yeah sure. Yeah sometimes referred to as the penrose stairs yes well you you want that story well too but what I was gonNA say about why I'm asking. Yeah yeah is that the Photon is really best represented in some sense as the angles a set of stairs like that when this very mysterious property. Then what you're really talking about is what we would call horizontal sub spaces picture to stairs and the fact fact. There's a paradox of going around and you seem to be going up all the time that you're back to where you came is the same thing as saying I never go up and yet I come back higher or lower. And that's it's called Hala no me and we don't have means of visualizing that for like either rock paper scissors or your work with ushers that fair comment well I had I. What is it we've ever heard somebody say this?.

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"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

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09:32 min | 2 years ago

"penrose" Discussed on The Portal

"Hello this is Eric with two pieces of housekeeping before we get to today's episode with Sir Roger Penrose now in the first place we released episode nineteen on the Biomedical Implications of Brett's evolutionary prediction from first principles of elongated telomeres in laboratory rodents. I think it's a significant enough episode and we've had so much feedback around it before we continue any kind of line of thinking surrounding that episode will wait for my brother and his wife. Heather hiring to return from the Amazon where they're currently incommunicado. So thanks for all the feedback. It's been very interesting to process the second piece of housekeeping surrounds. Today's episode with Roger. Penrose now I know what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to talk about quantum consciousness justness and the emperor's new mind maybe ask Roger about the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics the weirdness of quantum entanglement. I'm actually not that interested. I also don't want to go back to his earliest work on singularities general relativity with Stephen Hawking what I instead want to do is to remind you what Roger is in fact famous for. He's one the greatest geometric physicists. Now living he's perhaps the best Descendant of Albert Einstein currently still working in theoretical physics in this particular. Take your line of thought. I also think he's a great example of what the UK does well. He has a very idiosyncratic approach to try to solve the deepest problems in theoretical physics twister. Mr Theory I'm not expert in and I can't always follow it so if you're not following everything today's episode instead of deciding the episode is somehow failed. You try to remember that people people who are working in mathematics and theoretical physics. Spend most of their time listening to colleagues completely lost as to what their colleagues say so if you start to feel that you are being left behind by some line of thinking what we do is in general wait to see if another line of thinking opens up that we can try to catch. You'RE NOT GONNA get all of the waves and in fact. The the same thing is happening to me while I'm interviewing Roger. He's not understanding everything. I'm saying I'm not understanding everything he say. And in fact this is normal so what I would like to do is to instead present you you guys with an idea of what science actually sounds like when people are talking from two slightly different perspectives. We spent an awful lot of time simply trying to understand and each other and if that feels a little bit uncomfortable well then in fact you're getting a true scientific experience which is often very different than what you're getting when everything is pre chewed in spoon-fed hope you enjoy it without.

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