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Paul Brown, Diehard Browns Fan

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

11:50 min | 2 years ago

Paul Brown, Diehard Browns Fan

"This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app, here's Jeremy shop, and if you've been paying attention to the NFL this season, you know, that the Cleveland Browns are experiencing success such as they have not experienced in several years. Fact, of course last season they did not win a game. And at about this time last year. I went to England to see the Browns play at Twickenham stadium. The home of English rugby to do a story about Browns fans from all over Europe. Who despite commonsense had remained loyal to the team foremost. Among those fans, we encountered a man named appropriately enough Paul Brown as in the founder of the Browns. And now that the Browns are as I said experiencing some success by their standards, anyway, recent standards. We thought it'd be good time to welcome Paul Brown to the sporting life, Paul. Thank you for joining us. Jeremy how are you? I'm good. It's good to see you again what coming up to a one year anniversary. We really are. Well, what was the exact date? You remember when we got together that game at Twickenham? It was late October wasn't it. And I remember it was a lovely day out into them. It wasn't a great game though. It was not a great game. It was a skit for. So so to recap you are a very dedicated loyal Browns fan, and you have organized some of your fellow Browns fans in the United Kingdom. Why why the Browns Paula than your name oversleep when it comes to pick it attain a choice of tune that was the Bengals will the Browns because Paul Brown founded the Bengals as well. As the Browns, of course. I went with the the Browns mud dogs from higher as well. Okay. Okay. And Brown pull Brown Siwa if I had to the Browns. There's no other teams German. You didn't really have a choice is what you're saying. Not. In when when did this when did this fandom when did I come to life? When did you become a Browns fan through and through is about fifteen years ago? My best friend went to the states, and I offered him to buy me, some NFL t shirts and the options raiders, blah, blah, blah. He came back with a Browns Asia, and that was the first ever those. I those the first step and then probably over the last three years really stepped up my involvement of the NFL. And yeah, absolutely. Love it at the moment. We're speaking with Browns fan Paul Brown from his office in London. That you know of all the teams, you know, the Browns have given their fans over last several years the least really to cheer about what was it like this year. To see them finally win. Again, the the win against the jets. It was it was a one o'clock here in England. And I finished about four o'clock afterwards we meet at night people. Yes. One o'clock at night. It was night game one o'clock in the morning ending at four o'clock in the morning. It was absolutely absolutely buzzing. A bottle of champagne out a went out in the so spray champagne and other than sleep that night. I just kept on go. I went to the next morning, and yeah, it was absolutely amazing. Failing. Are you a little discombobulated is little disorienting to see the Browns occasionally playing well as they have over the course of last seven eight weeks well lost year. Even though we went zero sixteen we did come close games. So like this season we have gone into. In good full times this year we've and it's been a drone him pumping. And it's been great to get the wins. So yeah, you know, Jeremy changes come in. But before the wind correct me if I'm wrong, I have to admit I. I've kind of lost track of the Browns this season. Although I've been essentially like our Brown's correspondent for while with the Browns backers piece in the Joe Thomas stuff that I did free sixty. But there was the tie before the win yet. What would that feel like for you? I mean, we ties up until this season had been quite unusual in American professional football. I think it's a few times this as in. We got a second Cy we will be over time. Yeah. That that was crazy. It was. I thought we're gonna win it. We lose up. We lose it. And then we go time the end, it was the state is it was crazy, but you're use that being in English football fan as well. It's a fair point. Jeremy, I always take the Mickey the American football. You never get drool. And this was my first purple proper draw as a Browns fan. I kind of remember they are unusual. We're speaking with Paul Brown. And are you currently still the president of the Browns backers UK, I'm not the president now Kelly Burgess is the president by tremendous applause, much, possibly can are you the CFO COO CEO. Do we have any kind of title in the Browns backers fall, just just one of the most passionate and? Energize defy. We have in the in the U Jain. Look I had a good time last year when I was in London with you guys. It was a good group of Browns fans seemed people were motivated for the right reasons to cheer for a team that had given them so little achier for in the recent past. Are you guys still hanging out intra Falgu square that pub for the game? So that's still the main viewing spot, actually, that's the public. Give us when NFL comes to London. Okay. So that's that's for the all Browns fans when the NFL comes to London or all just NFL fans go there, you have to pubs dedicated to the team's, okay? Whatever the teams are NFL Mike money out. Anyway, I see. Okay. So that's like an official vets. Now where you are typically on Sundays we go to the hippodrome every Sunday, and we get approached my fifty to one hundred Browns funds and that can be a mixture fifteen twenty. Guys from the states on holiday, and then thirty heartcall UK fons into. That's where you were when the jets wind took place, you know, that it was. So it was a Thursday night game. I won't shift from. Oh, that's right. It was four in the morning. That's right. That's right. So so how the community of Browns fans react to the win. It was. It was crazy. I've LeBron James every celebrity relates wise. I I mean, the English community of Browns fans. Yeah. We were. We were all up drinking at four o'clock in the morning. We're all on Skype having a party. It was it was it was Boston. We will like electric. What are your thoughts? Now about the rookie Baker Mayfield. Yeah. He's looking great. And they pay. Grades coming for very strong. I think. Yeah. Talk to would we could have potentially Super Bowl winning cool back in the next five is hopefully what gives you so much confidence. We've good defense. We've go the potential go young team. We've got cap space changes Hatton end Hugh Jackson, which when I host my show is a pro Hugh Jackson show. It become to the end of his time at the Browns. And that could be another change speaking with Paul Brown thing. Lynch Browns fan who so passionate about the team is featured in story we did last year on e sixty about Browns fans in Europe. Are the Browns the Browns shown up in London this year? I can't remember what what are they doing? Now. I think we've hog knocks Jeremy dot means. We don't have. Well, they have to come to come over. We've got the big game on Sunday, which is the Jags bussey. Right. That's here. That's this week this Sunday. Yes. Are you going chair knuckle secret for y'all went on Sundays watch the titans versus the charges a game the week before I was in Cleveland? And I went the chargers on I then came back to Wembley charges a guy I work out in the I corps. Like, this isn't FLA me. I want to be back with the Browns. Don't want to be what should unusual game. Well, Paul, I'm sure that. The powers that be on Park Avenue at the NFL offices. Appreciate your phantom your commitment to American professional football. Amid the sea of obviously English football fans where you live in where you work big picture question. Paul before we let you go does American football ever become mainstream in the UK about this the bite before I don't think it will. I think the talk of London having a attame white wakes of the season. Don't think it's going to have to Jeremy we're gonna get the funds full Jagua to philistinism especially when blaze so big we can fill it three full five times a year. But I really think we're gonna struggle wakes of dedicate Janke funds going what about just as the way that the premiership in particular among global soccer leagues as we call. It has become a valuable television rights property in the United States American pro football, Kennedy Kennedy chief that level of success in the UK. Yes, I think it can go through cycles. I think in the nineties it was big drop. And then the NFL is now injected while of marketing and results. The London guy record. What's the final record for the Browns this year? I'm gone wave. Six wins. Six wince. Okay. That's realistic. Feels attainable. Jeremy una give you an exclusive a world exclusive. Jeremy, yes, sir. Next season. I'm gonna try and go to many games can. And I'm going to do a TV program. You're going to do a TV program. Based off of your experiences attending all the Browns games on TV program. I'm gonna fly over to the states probably six eight times. Do some home games away games road trips with the fines and go out to Europe? Maybe a straight here. Meet fans Browns fans to the world that sounds like it should be fun. I certainly know number Browns fans who would be interested in participating. If you need a need a voice over guy available for very reasonable rates. Paul Jeremy Arkansas out some bands when he comes to London next. Paul Brown Browns fan. Thank you for joining us, sir. Thanks very much. Jeremy I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time.

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4-8-21 - Mo Egger With Anthony Munoz

Mo Egger

14:23 min | 2 months ago

4-8-21 - Mo Egger With Anthony Munoz

"Sure do Four minutes after five o'clock this is espn fifteen thirty. My name is mojo egger. good afternoon. Hope you've had a fabulous thursday. The cincinnati bengals this morning announced the formation of a ring of honor. They will celebrate and honor on a recurring basis. Some of their most important figures they will induct during the two thousand twenty one season an inaugural class of four two of those spots to be determined. that'd be subject to a vote of sweet owners and season ticket holders those two figures. Whoever they may be will join the two that were announced. Today paul brown obviously no surprise and Equally unsurprising the induction of i think most of us would agree the greatest bengal of all time the pro football hall of famer and now inaugural bengals ring of honor. Inductee the great anthony munoz. Who's with us afternoon. It's been awhile. Congratulations how are you know. Thank you thank you doing. Well doing good Pleasure talking with you as always but Yeah it's been a fun day funday and it's exciting. I think for all the way around. I mean organization players community. So i'm thrilled to be part of the the ring of honor. You've you've achieved. Football's highest honor. You've had that moment in canton. There's nothing. I'm sure that's like that. But that said there's something special about being honored for the franchise that you're closely identified. With for the franchise that you're at the top of the totem pole. Four for the franchise. That i tried to forget the five minutes you were in tampa bay is basically the only franchise you played for. What is something like this mean. Well first of all. You're right with tampa bay. I did put the uniform on but officially not a bucket near because i didn't play any regular season. You're not gonna make their ring of honor those canes cincinnati in that it. It's it's very special your first of all you know myself and my wife. These are very grateful that you know my senior year in college went over half. The teams failed me physically touch me. That one team took a chance of paul brown. The brown family the bang organization so the fact that they took a shot. I played thirteen years here. we've been here in cincinnati for forty one years. This is our home Played every nfl game for the cincinnati. Bengals in my career so it's extra special. It's extra special that you know it started here in nineteen eighty at ended here and we still live here So that's what makes it really really special and you go to games. Your family goes to games to be able to to look up to be able to have them look up and see your name every time the bengals play. That's not something that most of us will ever will will ever experience that has to be to even think about that has to be cool. It really is when you talk about being humble humility. That's i mean you know back when i was growing up in high school and even college with adversity. I never even thought this would happen now. That all this is happening. We still pinch ourselves. But you're right the game to look up you know between the sweet levels in the ball into to be able to see the name my name and number and It's going to be very special in you know so. Hopefully you know as more names and numbers are added You know we'll be not not only the gaze up there during the regular season but the gaze up there during playoffs and hopefully one day soon. Afc championship game and we can continue to come to the game and look up there. The guys are planning now can can celebrate When they retire part of that that would be that would be the ultimate. You mentioned you. You've had the moment in canton. That every pro football player aspires to not everybody gets that most dole. But what i've always said about a bengals ring of honor is i want on that level. I want bengals players to get that. I want bengals players to get that moment where they're acknowledged by fans where they get celebrated where their story gets told and to me. That's that's what's really special about this. There are there are former bengals. Why believes should be in canton. I can make the case like you can't can't anderson. I can make the case like you can't for riley. Obviously kenny ken riley passing means. He's not going to get that moment but his family will and kenny is hopefully going to be in the bengals ring of honor very very very soon. Speak to what Being able to be a part of something like this basically for non hall of famers what is what is something like that going to mean for some of your former teammates and some of the guys that you've watched you've retired. It'll be amazing again. We can talk about the guys that we believe in being canton. And hopefully that happens but for this there's so many great players that have played for this organization. Before i got here. I mean you of course can. What's your prior. I've played with ten. Am and guys like tommy cazenove lemar parrish bob. Comfy bob johnson. Then guys i played with kenny anderson reggie williams and tim conway maximum toya. Curtis you know and you just got then. The guy's after i play you know after i played You know you. Got the guys like willy anderson and they'll feel those guys so it's one of those things that it's time now that people not only here that didn't have a chance to watch us play. Concede that yeah. There were a lot of great players that played for this organization and have played in the fifty plus years. And i think that's something for the whole country that follows the nfl to be able to see that just because we only have one pro football hall of famer. It doesn't mean that we don't have other guys that are worthy of being there that we have a number of guys that have been amazing during their nfl football careers. You are going to go into the bengals ring of honor with paul brown. There are two generations of bengals fans who who werner around or weren't into the team. Don't remember paul brown. The coach don't remember. Paul brown the executive. Obviously he didn't coach you but He was in. The front office helps select you. He was a behind building a couple of super bowl. Teams that you were a part of when when people ask about what it was like to work for paul brown. What do you tell them. Well i tell them they should really look into to just doing a history Examination on brand to see everything. He brought not only to the city of cincinnati. But cleveland massillon ohio state. What he did for the game of football amazing you. You'd think he'd take things for granted like the playbook and you know videotaping practices. Those are all paul brown innovations. I mean a lot more. I would highly recommend people that just hear about the name to really do a history search and look at what he brought to the game. I mean until he got sick. And i think it was like my tenth eleventh year. I saw him every time. I was at spinney fill every time. I was at riverfront stadium. Every time i made a trip. Paul brown was there. He did not miss a day in the ten eleven years. I was there and of course prior to that for many years. He was there before. I got there. so you know and that's what i talk about. I and that was a fun thing for me. When i went into paul brown stadium and when mike and the entire family was there to to let me know that what they were doing after the initial announcement and kinda was really humbled by that we started sharing stories about. I shared my story about. Paul brown. And mike shared stories forrest gregg. And and that's the great thing about what's going to happen as you get an opportunity Hopefully through the documentation who archives of putting those things together so like you said so people that never really saw paul brown coach or when he was around concede that and guys in people that never saw me play. I mean there's plenty of because i'm so much older now. They're going to start recording that and have archives and documentation really let people see the history of this organization. the grain. anthony munoz with us. Speaking of people who never saw you play. This is this is driven me nuts. I you and i are the same. We want the bengals to take as sole right. And i'm going to ask you about that. So guy shows up on my radar in december before the season's over he's generating a lot of draft buzz and there's these draft analyst who are like. Yeah you know what he could be. The next anthony munoz. And i'm going hang on a second. Hey never saw anthony play. I did be. That's incredibly unfair to do to the guy. Don't do that. compare them to. I don't know somebody who's not quite anthony moon news. I don't know what i'm asking you to say. But this has been something. I've been ranting about for months. You wanna take a nasal sole great. I hope he's awesome. I wanna take him stop. Comparing him to anthony munoz know for me. It's a thrill to hear that. But you know. I've had a chance to be in a usc guy. Pac twelve guy. I saw him play. You know right when he got in the starting lineup he's been nemesis to my trojans I was impressed from the very first time. I still have the guy play I thought he was smaller than he is saying. He's like three thirty. He moves amazingly out in open space. Great flexibility he's got a a nastiness to him. You know so. From what i've seen unless i don't really know what i'm looking for in an offensive tackle. I think he's pretty good. Heard a couple of things is everyone gets scrutinized during the car or during the pre-draft his arms a little short. he's a little round. I'm thinking you know what at three thirty. We're all going to be a little round to sixty. I'm a little round a lot less. Wasting when i was when i was playing so i think you can pick everybody apart but from what i've seen i think he'd be a good fit here. The great anthony ios inaugural member of the bengals ring of honor. It is. it's awesome that we get a chance to have this conversation and it's awesome. That will get a chance to talk about this on a recurring basis with guys. You played with with guys that you've watched. It's awesome very quickly. How's the foundation. Doing foundation's doing great. We're celebrating twenty years this year We're off the first. Three months of the of the year have been phenomenal in retaining bringing on new partners and financially being able to do Even a little more than we bought what we've been doing we were. We had to reinvent ourselves last year because the kobe which was a good thing. I think our reach went a little further with a lot of the virtual stuff. We did so now with that being said as we start to to open up and get back in person we've learned now we can utilize some of that virtual You know filming and taping and use those as our assets but yeah. I'm still energized. As an old guy at something. My wife and i are constantly talking about how much longer how much longer i keep saying. Well if things keep going like this. I might give it another thirty forty now. I'm just thirty four years but yeah it's going well. We have a chance again. This shimoda to really recognize and celebrate a lot of the young talent in this great community To our seven program. So i appreciate you asking and again. We're i think we're going to get back to heading out to westchester for top golf tailgate. so hopefully We're there there were there. Yes just tell us when we missed. We missed doing that show last year. So yes we wanna come back. Just let us know. And we'll have more ring of honor stuff to talk about so that'd be a lot of fun. Congratulations this was. This was a no brainer and You know when we were talking about the possibility of a bengals ring of honor. We all knew you would be included. We all knew you would be in that inaugural class. That doesn't make it any less special for us as fans and i'm sure for for you as an inductee. I appreciate you joining me. It's always good to have you on. Anthony thanks so much. Thank you have a great night appreciate it. You got it. The great anthony munoz. What is awesome about him is. He's in the hall of fame. He is the only terrell owens in the hall of fame but you don't think of him as a bengal and paul brown is in the hall of fame but frankly you think of him. Is you know winning championships with with the browns. Anthony munoz is the only bengal hall of famer. And i certainly can make the case for ken. riley. I believe he belongs in. Could certainly make the case for kenny anderson. And willie anderson. I believe those players deserve think willie anderson deserves a really strong look. I think kenny anderson deserves to be in. But if you have to have one if you're stuck with one you want it to be somebody. The caliber of anthony munoz. And what makes what makes it special when he goes into the bengals ring of honor is. You're celebrating the player and there are people who consider anthony. Greatest offense lineman of all time and that may be true. He's certainly in the conversation. I i've never met a better human being. I've i've said there's two people. I hold my tongue around my grandmother who passed three months ago and anthony moon. You know it's your. You're celebrating the player but when it comes to anthony anybody who's ever been around him anybody who's ever had a chance to listen to him. Speak anybody who's become remotely familiar with the work foundation. Does your celebrating the man as well. And that's what makes it cool. That's what makes it cool. Having a guy like anthony's franchise icon one day. I hope there's a statue of him and you could talk about anthony for an hour and never mention the kind of player that he was and he's one of the greatest to ever play the game. So it's it's always a treat to get a chance to talk to him and you know i didn't. I didn't go to canton in one thousand nine hundred and watch him get inducted. I will be at paul brown stadium to watch him. Go to the bengals ring of honor with three inductees and that certainly is deserved. That's cool part of eighteen minutes. After five o'clock i this is. I'm crossing complaining about the bengals. Not having a ring of honor off my list and now now the the conversation can turn funds so we'll have it next on. Espn fifteen thirty.

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Doug Farrar, USA Today

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

14:39 min | 2 years ago

Doug Farrar, USA Today

"Great news. There's a quick way you can save money, switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price, and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy chef. Doug Farrar the NFL writer at USA today. His new book is titled the genius of desperation. The schematic innovations that made the modern NFL, Doug, that is a mouthful, but there's a lot of ground to cover, so. So I understand you go back all the way to the beginning. This is a book really about the innovators in pro football to me as a guy who's a little bit of a football historian. The guy who sits at the top of that list is Paul Brown, but there's so many others. Let's start with Paul Brown though. How did he change the game? Gosh, how didn't he. He created the facemask. He created some study to get an advanced look at an opponent's tendencies. He, you know. Really modern football and every coach. In today's game, who knows Paul Brown Bill Belichick said that the NFL as it exists now would not exist without Paul Brown. And as I discuss in the book which short version, it's a chronic ED's, a schematic chronological history of football from nineteen twenty to the present Bisley from the wing t the RPO Paul Brown's in the middle of the book and the Browns were, of course, the classes, the American Football Conference in late forties. They won all four championships and then the AFC folded three teams into the NFL and Paul, the Browns first game in the NFL was against the two-time NFL champion, Philadelphia Eagles. So Bert Bill was, you know, you're the the big fish in the small town. Here's the ocean. See, you know, deal with it and Brown did film study that greasy Neale the eagles head coach was an innovator in his own right. He helped create the four, three defense, but Brown. Rounded, all kinds of things with swing passes and route concepts over the middle that Phillies desens- wasn't able to handle, but the real and this goes to the meticulousness of Brown's research. He discovered that the eagles defensive lineman always played on the outside shoulder of the offensive lineman, Joe through the game through that first game, which the Browns one, thirty, five to ten. He widened the line splits. He, he widened the the distance between the offensive lineman, just got wider and wider through the game, and the eagles didn't adapt. So Brown was essentially with his own study and scheme pushing the linemen further away from each other. And then here comes, you know, two hundred and seventy pound Marion motley on the draw play against wide defensive lines. That's not gonna work. If you're a defense. I mean, he was he was deal to MIT innovator. He he did more to forward the game. Anyone else you also had. Of course. The Cincinnati Bengals when you return to the league in nineteen sixty eight and offense coordinator of some renown some any Bill Walsh, things were pretty well for him to respond with Doug for our about his new book. The genius of desperation, these schematic innovations that made the modern NFL. And when you talk about desperation and you talk about necessity that that is your thesis, you're, you know that you guys found a way to innovate when their backs were against the wall and they had no choice whether it was it was personnel or something else. Why? Why does pro football where we've seen so much success with innovation wise it resistant to change? Why do we think of it as an entity in which unless you have to you, don't challenge conformity, Jeremy. It's a really good question, and somebody was has. This morning, if there was a common seem to the book and took me three years to write it, and I did all kinds of research read about one hundred books talked to a bunch of people, and the one common theme besides the innovation was the resistance to the innovation. And this goes back to, you know, Clark Shaughnessy putting passing concepts and the t formation people laughing at him when Shaughnessy met George Halas. One of the reasons he was open to giving Halas all his secrets, which were brilliant and innovative was that halston laugh at him and Shaughnessy was used to being laughed at because he had different ideas. People used to call the west coast office, a finesse offense until it ran over them Buddy Ryan famously called the run and shoot the Chuck and duck, and the running shoe didn't laugh. But the option routes that are part of every NFL teams offense now and the patriots more than anyone else. Those came running shoot even when the Philadelphia Eagles were winning the Super Bowl in part because there are. Jio concepts with Nick foles backup last year and talking about the genius of desperation. You have to expand your appeal package to win the Super Bowl because you're starting quarterback, goes out in week. Thirteen. People were laughing at Peterson saying it's a high school offense. So there is an absolute foot boat. I mean, it's a very conservative game and it's very much an if it isn't broke, don't fix it kind of league and very often it's if it is broke, don't fix it anyway, kind of lead and the, you know, one of my favorite stories in the book is when Sam Weiss of the coach of the Bengals really went heavy with the speed, no one hundred offense in the late nineteen eighties Marv Levy, tried to complain to the league about it before a playoff game between the bills and the bagels. And the next year, Marv Levy is implementing the k gun speed, no offense. And he goes to four straight Super Bowls with it. So it's really, you know, it, it you deride these concepts. And then you sort of surreptitiously integrate them into your own, then they're okay. We're speaking with Doug Farrar about his new book that traces the development of pro football through innovation and in schematic innovation from the beginnings of the league, the title of the book is the genius of desperation. And now, of course, we're at a point at which the game is so different from where it stood even a decade. Two decades ago. You know, we're, we're seeing everybody passing for four hundred yards every week, the decline in fall of the running back his only accelerating over the last two years. The notion of the expandability in some respects of the running back with a few notable exceptions, what is the most important pivot point if there is one that got us to where we are now where it's become, there is no balance anymore. It's just a passing. League while. Yeah, I think this is through the first four weeks. It's it's over, sixty percent pass, and this has been going on for lunchtime. There are few things I would. I mean, if there was a galvanic moment for for the way NFL offenses work. Now, I would go back to the New Orleans Saints of the late two, thousands. When Sean Payton decided that Reggie Bush should flare out of the backfield into a slot position. And this was one of the primary construct that they won the Super Bowl with. And whenever Reggie Bush who ran a pretty full route tree with the saints, whenever he flirted out from the backfield to that slot position, he was essentially a third receiver. Now in those days, most teams ran base four, three or three or four defenses. Now, nNcholas, a new base defense, the reason that happened 'cause because when Bush flirted out from the backfield to the slot, the third linebacker was always at a disadvantage. Didn't matter who it was. So two things happened. Teams are taking third linebacker off the field and the two linebackers who remained on the field were faster and smaller. If you look at the average linebacker from twenty years ago, the l- the especially the inside linebackers there, ten to twenty pounds lighter and they're much faster. They're essentially safeties playing linebacker. So if there was a point at which the league knew it had to change defensively in ways that we see the NFL working now, I would point to Reggie Bush going from the backfield to the slot over and over again and just destroying. You know, these two hundred and fifty pound linebackers were used to reading run keys and just running straight ahead. And you know, Mike singleton is one of the greatest linebackers of all time. He wouldn't have known what to do with Reggie Bush because he wasn't a three hundred sixty degree guy. He ran straight ahead and destroyed people, but the variance of offense. Now you look at Sean McVeigh Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan. These brilliant, brilliant ofensive play designers. They're not only taking elements of all sorts of classic NFL off offenses, more and more. They're taking stuff from college, even high school programs. I mean, high school coaches running our PEOs in the nineteen nineties, and you talk to those guys and they find it hilarious thinks this is a new thing just because NFL is doing so like Mike Lee too. I think one last week, Washington state, defeating Utah without gaining any yardage on the ground. Is he a guy whose ideas are just, it's inevitable will make their way into the NFL or they already have, oh, they already have and you know the air peo- in it's it's misidentified inserting, mis categorized a lot. But basically what it allows a quarterback to do is to create a simple pass or run post nap re based on the motions of one defender, they call it defender. Conflict offender. We're going to isolate one guy and wanna receiver at him. And if he takes that receiver we run the ball, if he doesn't, we pass. And you know, guys like Leach chip, Kelly, Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma is is through. He's the guy that a lot of NFL minds are talking to now these ideas, the option ideally protege. Yes, exactly. This is absolutely where the league is going and you watch. I mean, you want your team like a Rams where they have all these passing concepts that are great, but they're also running all these fake sweeps with the run game and the passing game. Most certainly, I mean, packet Mahomes is taking league by storm with concepts that guys like might leash and chip Kelly would find eminently familiar and kudos to Andy Reid, forgetting a guy like Patrick Mahomes night saying, okay, I'm gonna break you down and make you fifty NFL suit. No, Andy Reed's been working with spread guys for. For years, Brad Childress. He had Chris out who invented the pistol formation with Colin Kaepernick at Nevada on staff as a consultant for two or three years. Andy Reid has been building this monster for a long time. So when he got Mahomes, there was intent and renew exactly what he was doing and he was years ahead of his time. Now he's reaping the benefits because he saw of the league was going Doug FARs. New book is the genius of desperation. These schematic vacations. The made the modern NFL it. What's the difference between if there is one? And I guess sometimes clearly there is between a great coach and a great innovator. Ooh, good question. Not always the same thing. In fact frequently, not the same thing Clark Shaughnessy who takes up most of the first chapter. He was kind of an idiosyncratic guy. He didn't always get along with people. It's, you know, kinda cursive. The genius is you kind of go your own way. I say no, all about it. I know all about it that it's been very hard. As you know, a guy like Bill, well, look, they'll go check. Look at when he had seen the. The sheer amount of brain power he had with the Cleveland Browns and early nineteen nineties. But he wasn't ready and then came to England, and he understood the role of coach as CEO as overseer. The whole thing I'm in, I live in Seattle when Pete Carroll came here in twenty ten, nobody was excited about it because we all knew about his history with the patriots and the jets and the nineties. And about halfway through his first season I asked p, why do you think this will work this time? And he talked about the year between the patriots and USC or he sat himself down and he said, I have to change the way, I think, and he did, and he got into John wooden philosophy and all sorts of other things. When he came back to the NFL, he had a plan to be a head coach. Now, the best coaches slash innovators. These are the names. We all know the Paul Browns and the Bill Walsh's and the now Bill Bella checks and guys like that. But more free. Really? I mean, you look at Don coryell one of the greatest innovators all time. You pay attention to his defense, not nearly enough that doesn't make them a bad coach, but it does put a hindrance on his championship possibilities. So for someone and they're also coaches who are not innovators at all. I mean, you look at Jimmy, how in the fifties with near giants had a pretty good record because offensive coordinator was Vince Lombardi and his defensive coordinator was Tom Landry. And at that point, your job ex, keep the hot drinks hot in the school. And if you understand Rolex just fine. But yeah, it's it's not because you're a great coach doesn't automatically make you agree innovator and vice versa to to marry those diverse skill sets is very rare. You know what they say that genius is Doug. We're not well liked. For ours. Took first new book. I'm gonna use that as an excuse the next time I'm not. We'll like. The genius of desperation. These schematic innovations that made the modern NFL, Doug, thanks so much for joining us. Oh, my absolute pleasure. Thank you so much. I'm Jeremy shop and you can listen to new additions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time.

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The Marriage Business

The Indicator from Planet Money

09:57 min | 6 months ago

The Marriage Business

"N. p. r. This is the indicator from planet money. I'm stacey smith. Twenty twenty has been a really hard and really strange year in a lot of ways in the economy but also in our personal lives. A lot of people haven't seen their parents or their family in nearly a year and a lot of friends who live in the same city have essentially been in a long distance relationship out of weddings. Of course got postponed or even cancelled. Weddings are of course a massive multibillion dollar business in the us and the support of small businesses from dressmaker to florist jewelers. Caterers to wedding planners. I estimate i've officiated thirty five hundred weddings. Wow this is john paul brown. He owns a lope asheville a business based in asheville north carolina. It's pretty much exactly what it sounds like. We plan allotments which sounds counter intuitive. Yes good to say like isn't the whole thing like elopement. It's like a spur of the moment. Did that's the reputation it had for a while. We're kind of a fly by night wedding but we kind of more of an alternative to the big large traditional wedding. Elope ashville helps couples plan. John paul can take care of everything booking the venue getting the photographer getting the flowers and the cake even planning a few activities at least that was his business like many small business owners. John sought everything. Change back in march here. The indicator we have been talking to small businesses and all kinds of industries to see how they've been affected by covid right after the break. The wedding business support for this podcast and the following message come from e-trade trading isn't for everyone but each rate is whether it's saving for a rainy day or your retirement you trade. Has you covered. They can help you check your financial goals off your list and with a team of professionals giving you support when you need it. You can be confident that your money is working hard for you get more than just trading with each raid to get started today visit e. trade dot com slash. Npr for more information e-trade securities llc member. Finra sipc john. Paul brown owner of elope ashville. Thank you for joining us. Yeah so i mean. I sort of assumed elopement were pretty cut and dry. Like no bells and whistles. But i don't know. I mean do people come to you wanting sort of special seems like wedding or a vampire wedding or something like that. Like what kind of business do you get So every year on may the fourth. We have a run on a star wars weddings. May the fourth be with you. Well that's great on march fourteenth. There's always pi day weddings. It's always the engineers who get married on that day. I did hear from my colleagues that there was like some you get special requests for like a princess bride weddings yes I have the popat really. Can you deliver it. God maui age now which that blessed union. The twin within the doing and to a yeah. That's that's pretty good. So how many have you done more than one zero. Yeah yeah. I've probably done. I bet twenty and my career. Okay so i have to ask like how did you come up with the idea for this business i mean. Are you like a super romantic hard. Or are you i well. That's that's a funny story. Because i'd never actually been to wedding before my first wedding in the business. You didn't like love weddings or anything. No no. I had no idea what i was doing but i watched a lot of youtube clips of weddings. And so i just really faked my way through it. I was actually planning my wedding at the time. And i really wanted to go to a park and light up the grill and eat burgers and have somebody come in and marius there in the park while the kids play and all the stuff and nobody was offering that. Oh you were like. Hey i just want like sort of a low key intimate wedding and it's either sort of like tens of thousands of dollars or city exactly. That's the exact thought. That i had and i was like surely i can't be the only one so you're like in your very the very first wedding. Elopement that you organized you married the this and like well. You've never been before what was that. I didn't sleep a wink that whole week. Leading up to it. I was so nervous. I swore up and down. This is it. I'm not doing another one. This sucks i hate it. And i did it and we're waving goodbye like at the end of princess bride. Were there you know. He's waving have fun storming the castle. That's kind of how we were. And then i had that rush like oh my god. This is great. You know. I wanna do it again. Yeah so that was kinda cool but yeah did my first one. I thought for sure. When i started this i would be making like vacation money or or beer money or something like that aside. Yeah like a side. Hustle had no. I didn't even want to dare to think that it would become a major thing like it's turned out to be. So how much does in elopement costs. Yeah so we have our very The the lowest tier and pictures included the whole thing. And it's four hundred dollars for that. And wow that's cheap. Yeah and then from there goes up. It really kind of varies on our location. Where do you wanna go. What venue how long of a drive. How long of a hike with all the bells and whistles at the most expensive in you we have. You're probably gonna spend anywhere from nine hundred to eleven hundred max. I think the average american wedding is like thirty. Something thousand dollars the national averages around thirty six thousand before the pandemic started. Like what kind of business were you doing. How many people were you marrying on. On average before the pandemic we were doing between three hundred fifty and four hundred weddings a year. That's a lot of weddings were you you. Were doing most of them. You said yes. I was doing the vast majority of them and i liked it. Wow you sounds like your business is sort of growing. You've got a good business. It's like you've found this niche And then the pandemic happens back in in march right happen to your business. We were getting emails multiple emails all day everyday. Phonecalls cancelling and we're yeah. We're trying to say you know. Let's not cancel its delay. We were panicking. Because it's like our whole business was falling completely. Apart with no money. Coming in it was mind blowing. It was depressing. It was panic. Inducing losing tens of thousands of dollars a month exactly exactly what happened to visit so around mid apple. We started getting the first emails. Hey we had a wedding plan for may and they just called and cancelled and we still wanna get married. Can we come to you guys. And so that was the theme for the rest of the entire year every single large wedding in the. Us pretty much on the vast majority got canceled this year. And a lotta people wanted to get married this year so instead of doing the large wedding they decided to elope and kind of do the social distance wedding. The zoom weddings became a thing this year of having museum weddings. Oh yeah yeah. We've done a lot where they just set up a phone on a tripod poop do the zoom thing and suddenly fifty people are there watching from the privacy of their own homes. How over the summer. Like how many people did you marry at least forty five if not higher weddings month A normal. October is sixty last year. We had a record sixty one and we did a cheer for breaking the record this year. This october alone. We did ninety seven weddings in one month with october. Tenth being the busiest weddings in one day. So you've seen this is actually been great for your business. This pandemic yeah. It's that's the weird thing about it. It's like this. The pandemic has been a boon for my business. But i can't be happy about that because so many i have close friends. Who are here in town. Who are business owners who are bar owners who have stores and they're closing down left and right. How can i sit there and be publicly excited about having such a big month when three people that are no of lost their businesses in october. So it's it's an embarrassment of riches. It's like i'm so happy that this is doing well but it hurts so bad john. Paul brown owner of elope ashville. Thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure anytime this episode. The indicator was produced by nick fountain and sat checked by sean donya. The indicator is edited by paddy hirsch and is a production of npr. What does it take to really make amends. And how should we navigate our digital spaces. I'm a new summer each week on. Npr's ted radio hour week. Go on a journey with ted speakers who help us answer some of life's biggest questions. Join us listen now.

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6-11-2020 Lance with Paul Dehner Jr

Lance McAlister

12:12 min | 1 year ago

6-11-2020 Lance with Paul Dehner Jr

"And. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. Let's keep rolling. Seven zero eight seven hundred WWL W. Or an L. carriers sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Omland mcallister nine o'clock tonight just after nine gambling thin. Serve Up Your realitycheck. We've got a lot of ground to cover between now and then Mel Levitt checks in at just after eight o'clock tonight we went heavy on the reds conversation. In the first hour you heard from first round pick, Austin Hendrick. You heard from his high school coach Bryan. Corn Cornell, you're from Dick, Williams and nick crawl as well. Let's Talk Bengals. Bengals in this hour and what our next guest wrote about this week for the athletic is not. It's not a new topic it's it's certainly a staple of sports talk radio and a staple of of covering the bengals over the last decade multiple decades. This has always been something that kind of flies around in terms of conversation, about why, and when and yet the way he presented this week might be the best read or the best. I've heard and seen it presented. In a long time. There were. There were lines in his piece that jumped out to me, and I said I I gotta get him on and talk about this and the the opening line says it shouldn't take the death of Ken Riley for the Bengals to properly honor him. How about this line? He deserved better or this line. The bengals have failed their former players and fans by not having a ring of honor or hall of fame. Riley was deprived of his moment. Having said that let's go straight to the source. He pin that for the athletic, the athletic dot com that would be. Paul Dana Junior how are you I'm good are are you land on well? That was quite a build up for your article, wasn't it? That is I. Think that I'll take. You were talking about how the oldest topic I was trying to think like I remember this being a deal that people were sick of when I first started covering this team a decade ago. And here we are still doing it. Go on, take me to to that line. He was deprived of his moment. Explain that for fans who might not fully understand. Kendall Ken Riley had six five interceptions just most in history NFL thirty the hall of fame. That's their all agree on that the bengals organizationally are have an iron curtain between China Canton for some reason there it's it's absurd. The numbers I mean they only have one in fifty plus years in. They're not made hall of fame Ken Riley One of those. That couldn't make the the hall of fame. You can't whatever number of reasons. But that doesn't mean that he shouldn't have had an opportunity to give his speech like he would've been kicked to get to thank his people to have his weekend or his friends come, and they all hang out and celebrate him and his career one that meant so much to shaping the Bengals as a franchise, and that's so much. What getting into the hall in Canton is all about? It's that forever it's. It's that you'll always have that weekend. You'll always have that speech and have that bus intent. It's memory everything you did he. He was a hall of fame. Player Kiss Cincinnati Bengals. He never got that moment. To give that speech to have that weekend to see that name there forever, know what is like what he meant to the organization and to fan base for those fans just to give him a standing ovation. You never got one of those anywhere. Because can't let them out. And the bengals opted not to celebrate them, and that's sad. It's really sad. No question, no question about it. This line I actually grabbed my highlighter and I said all right. I got to ask about this because. You mentioned in your piece. It's clear that Ken Riley's passing stirred conversation within the organization. Tell us about that. I mean I think the reaction. Inside the building to this was what it was to a lot of what I mean. Anybody that heard about Ken Rally passing that knew anything about him or his situation. As a player, man or heartbroken by it, and that was the case, certainly inside Paul Brown Stadium and I think the idea of man. He never got into Canton He. We never had a way never really really gave him a moment here. That's that sad, it shouldn't be that way. You know I think that was. It was hard not to have that under current I think it started them talking about. How could we do this? Should we do this and and everybody kind of re-opening those conversations? And what could that look like? When could we do it? You know it just and and just kind of open those lines of conversation again. I mean right now. You're in a weird spot timing wise. Try to do something immediately because. There may not even be any fans this year like you certainly wouldn't try to do it now any event off the field now but you know I. do think it opened up some lines of conversation over there where they go. You know that's yet to be. People always wonder about this. Explain his best. You can kind of trace back the philosophy to to why the organization has approached it this way or dragged its feet this way over the decades. That's a really hard one. They answer. I've asked it quite a bit of in it. There's a lot of I think there's a lot of different about you know sort of saying. He's the bottom line. Is there's? Some aspects about it that don't sit well. With Mike, and then with the some members ups over there and it is. It Paul Brown talked a lot about team about honoring team and it not being about individuals there's there's a resistance to individuals and individual names at all of that to me I think that's a big part of what's at the. Crux of it There's more to it than that. But. As far as I can tell, no, that's kind of a foundational element of this and you know. There's a reason they're pretty much the only team that doesn't do it. You know. there. There's there there's just there's something about it. It's too easy right, but there's something inherent inside of it. That doesn't sit well there in the front office. Because otherwise it's a win. Win Win Win for absolutely everybody else involved. Junior from the athletic, the athletic dot com check it in and Bengals Hall of Fame Ring of Honor It means a lot. It would meet a lot to the fans. Obviously, but you talked with. I love the line for maximum toy, he said. It would be cool. Yeah, but before we all die and Willie. Very passionate about this, you talk with Willy Anderson. The play would mean a lot to the players. Obviously I gotta tell you ever since I started doing any sauce over the last decade covering this team with former players. This comes up. And it came certainly a lot louder before the last few years when they started bringing guys back more consistently until until the fifty anniversary. They ever really brought anybody. We didn't assist. In that was there was such a huge disconnect between former players and current team and ownership and any feeling of community, and that same emptiness and feeling of community between the fans and the organization exists. It's kind of just been a blind spot for them for a while is having that real sense of community consistently Based on winning and losing and. That goes back to former players feeling like proud to be bengals coming back celebrating that you know all of that stuff that has opened up a little bit more, but you know I think this thing hit home with a lot of them two of look. Let's just do this. There's no reason not to. We all want to do this and it. We gotta do this for people but. Not, reckon, go out, not feeling like they ever really got their the recognition that they deserved Paul from a hall of fame standpoint. What what you presented I've never seen presented. You listed the number of players from every organization in the Hall of fame from the bears at thirty two the Bengals at one, but here's what struck me. Every other team in the NFL has least three more hall of famers than the Bengals. Yeah when you look at throwing out the expansion era post nineteen ninety. Being it's most not just everyone has at least for the vast majority have double digits? Yeah, like almost everybody. It is an impossibility for eighteen to only have one in without something else at play. They've never WANNA super bowl. Team. That's won ten division titles. Three hundred sixty games I mean this is not a team devoid of success or great players or great candidates with outstanding resumes, but yet it took the greatest left tackle of all time to get them one. and you've got all of these guys sitting on the outside at in. It's not hard. To point and say well, someone need, there's so there's so much politics involved the hall of fame, and if you have another hour and a half, we'll talk about that. But, there's so much politics involved, and if you're not promoting your own players, players aren't gonNA. Want to speak up for themselves. If you don't have enough people, you know stumping for your guys, you can be left on the outside looking in, and it's unfortunate, but the numbers and the play doesn't always speak for himself especially when you're not when you're in an anonymous. and. You're paying some anonymous us. Like, happened a lot here in Cincinnati, and that's how you end up with one when almost everybody else in the league, has double digit hall famous, it is a must read Paul diener junior has written for the Athletic Athletic Dot Com. This is discussed in your newest addition of your podcast correct. We went back and looked at the last The last playoff win January six nineteen ninety-one, and now that season in sort of the changing of the guard. We kind of we do touch on that topic and a lot of very interesting things about that time frame of that era that season. Excellent Hey I really appreciate it I really enjoyed the article. I appreciate your time. Thanks Paul Paul Junior from the athletic. Let me let me do this. Maybe maybe we invest maybe a segment or so in this you heard you just heard what Paul said. Let me, approach it from this standpoint I I know in the article. What how maximum toy feels about it and I'll read you the quote when we come back. How will Anderson feels about it, so you've heard a a writer and me in a couple of players? Do we make too much out of it or from your perspective? Is it something you say you know hell? Yeah, there should be a ring of honor and a and a and a bengals holiday. How big a deal is it? Let me open up the lines. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, thousand, one, eight, hundred, the big one pound, seven, hundred on at and T., what kind of impact would it have I? Get and I'll save from this. I. Get what I asked questions along these lines. There's always well. Could they put a winning team on the field I? Let's just assume that everybody wishes first and foremost they put away winning team in the field beyond that as the given. Is it a big deal. That they. A Hall of fame a in a ring of honor I mean is that. Is that something that is obviously a need for this organization? That would mean something to you. We'll do that as we continue. Our L. carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W.

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The Breakdown: The Rioting Is Not Trumps America  Its The Demoncrats Route To Violently Overthrow the American Way Of Life

CRUSADE Channel Previews

13:06 min | 10 months ago

The Breakdown: The Rioting Is Not Trumps America Its The Demoncrats Route To Violently Overthrow the American Way Of Life

"It was the people in Portland. It was the antique it was the black lives matter. It was the the. Autonomous Zone that they created in Portland that was the issue because when I last I checked donald trump was not occupying cities and taking over. Blocks and blocks of cities and holding people hostage and extorting people for money and let allowing graffiti all over the place and and trying to prevent any assistance and help from coming in that was ANTIFA. That was the black lives matter protesters. That was them that were terrorizing the people in their cities that was not donald trump donald trump did not safe for people to do that. They didn't on their own. He said wheel continued that trump would trump's tweets attacking democratic mayors are unhelpful when he could unite instead. At one point during his speech you said, you seriously wonder Mr President why this is the first time in decades that Americans have seen this level of violence it's you who have created the hate and and the division. This is absolutely ludicrous. It is not this president who has done this. The divisive language that he talks about when he talks about the fake news media and he calls people out for lying and he says that they are that they're. Dangerous for America and says, the Democratic policies are destroying America he's right. If you WANNA. Blame if you want to say that the ANTIFA and the black lives matter protesters and the. Honestly just consolidate those and call them violent communists. If you want to say that the reason we have ANTIFA and the reason we have black lives matter protesters. Is Because of the frustration. And because of the Lack of addressing systemic racism in the nation has pushed them to a point that this is all they have. This is the only recourse that they have. If that's what you WanNa say if that's what you want to blame this on trump has been in office for four years. Four years. So which is it? Is it trump has created this environment in four years or is it the fact that we've had generations of systemic racism that's causing this? Because the left has to answer that question. and T for supporters have to answer that question black lives matter supporters have to answer that question is it four years of Donald trump that's caused this unrest or is it generations of systemic racism that have caused? This is it is it generations of institutionalized racism that have caused this? Because if it's generations of institutionalized and systemic racism that's not Donald. Trump's fault. He has not created your. Your. System racism in the past four years. So is it the injustices of the United States of America? And the fact that we have not addressed people of color and their problems. Or is it donald trump is a horrible person and his tweets are causing it. I I'm just I'm I'm just trying to pinpoint what the what the beginning of this is. Because before trump even had the opportunity. To be the president. The day he was inaugurated. People were protesting all dressed in black in Washington getting arrested. Bad. There's an article from CNN back two, thousand and. This is from two thousand and nineteen It says I think there's one even farther back than this unmasking the leftist anti FA movement. was updated in two thousand and nineteen as a matter of fact, that details a young man as he digs through his closet for the Black, the blackest outfit he could find. So that he could go protest and even get arrested in Washington DC simply because Donald Trump won the presidency. So. How can you blame this entire movement? How can you blame the violence that's happening now? When it started the day that Donald Trump was inaugurated. He didn't even have a chance. To, tweet out. Disagreements with Democratic senators and Congressmen and mayors. He didn't even have a chance to really get into the nitty gritty. This violence has been happening and it's been going on for a long time. Now, there has been I believe under the surface racial tensions that have existed for generations we know that. And when when he says I believe that this is a dingy disingenuous statement here. Actually kind of fed up with it. I'm fed up with statements like this from from Ted Wheeler, I'm fed up with statements like this from the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm fed up with statements like this from Lebron, James, and Colin Kaepernick and all of these do-gooder folks. That are trying to be virtuous and virtue signal about how amazing they are and how awesome they are. When you make statements like this, that Ted Wheeler made we must work together the we must accurately address what's going on around systemic injustices in our community here in Portland. Okay. Okay. We'll go with that. All right. You say that we have to accurately address the systemic injustices that are happening in in Portland. The bengals on this is what was his last week They marched they walked Johnny call it a march. It was a they walked from Paul Brown stadium in Cincinnati. To the undergrowth of underground. Railroad Center. In, Cincinnati. They walked on my gosh, it was such a long walk I. Think it was. I think it's two blocks. Like a quarter mile. Is what they had to walk. To Go from the Paul, Brown. Paul Brown stadium over to the freedom underground, and this is the statement that was that was read. In front of Paul Brown stadium as a matter of fact, I'm going to go ahead and play the statement for you because there might be voice in there. Some you folks will recognize. Where we're here at the Freedom Center today because the Sooty Bengals have an important message. As this country continues to see instances of racial discrimination and injustices it is time for us to act. Together and as a unified front, we must identify address and ultimately end those practices and policies that would deny. Justice to all regardless of race religion or creed. It is time for us all to take a stand that was trae Hopkins the Center. It is each of our responsibility to affect change in our communities. Not, only for us, but for those yet to come. We cannot turn a blind eye to the racism still experienced in this country. This is non-issue of politics but fight for equality in life. If this nation is to ever reach the goals that has promised to its citizens. We must be catalyst for change. That was jober. He's the new quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals and you would know him from Lsu as well. That was him speaking? It was less than one minute. They did this. But here's what I don't like about this. I it's pandering it's political positioning. They say it's not about politics, but it's obviously about politics because the whole black lives matter movement is nothing but politics I don't WanNa hear this garbage anymore that black lives matters is about saving black lives it's not. They are they are full trans rights. They are full homosexual rights their full communistic. Movement. They are fully behind. Getting Donald, trump out of the office. They have no other goal. Except the advancement of violent Marxism and violent communism that's all they want to do. If you want to Oh my gosh. If you want to lump in every trump supporter that does something stupid that punches somebody out that flips somebody off that spray somebody with pepper spray that shoot somebody with a with a paintball gun. If you WANNA paint every one of those is that's exactly how Donald Trump is. Why don't we see that same coverage for black lives matters why don't we see that same coverage in the media from those folks who do the exact same thing with black lives matter why don't we see that? Why don't we see that? The reason that we don't see that is because the only goal the only purpose is to push a political agenda it is is a Trojan horse. You see that folks it is a Trojan horse and the only issue. The only thing they're trying to push a political agenda and we're destroying that political agenda and exposing that right here on the crusade channel the last live radio station standing. And we do that. We're always on air and always online at Crusade Channel Dot Com and we are constantly exposing this type of trash. And I'm sick and tired of watching the the trump administration and and by extension. Conservatives and Christians be blamed because we supported Donald Trump and that somehow makes us some type of fascists. The young man that was shot in Portland over the weekend. The videos that we've been able to see. They're blaming that. The claiming Donald Trump for that killing. The the headline from the daily beast one shot dead is hundreds of trump's supporters descend on Portland. The sub headline to the story the Massive Caravan of vehicles waving trump twenty, twenty flags led more than just a few violent encounters with. Anti racist protesters. What a bunch of tripe. What a bunch of Absolute tripe folks that that is they're they're painting this all their anti raises protesters and trump supporters go down there to stop anti-racist protestors. The violence and the the destruction that's been happening in Portland is not about. Racism it's not about any back to my point I I with Joe Boroughs and and and the bengals. You WanNa, talk about exposing and you WanNa talk about addressing the the issues around systemic injustices in your communities you. WanNa talk about exposing the institutional racism. Okay. I'm listening. I'm listening. All right. I'm listening. Please, tell me where it is. Because evidently, I'm a racist because I don't know what it is that I'm racist against and I don't know what it is that I can fight. How can I be racist? If you don't tell me I'm racist. You can't just simply accuse somebody of being a racist and being involved in systemically in unjust at institutionalized institutionally racist or a system and not tell me what it is. Please show me what it is. I would like nothing more. Than to say, okay, here is a concrete example of systemic racism. Don't show me statistics. Of deaths. Of, black men that are killed by police officers that's not systemic racism. If anything that shows a systemic issue within a particular culture. Let's address that. If you want to show if you WanNa tell me I'm racist. You can't you can't. Require me to tell you I'm not explain to you that I'm not for two reasons first it's logically. Indefensible. You're racist no I'm. Not, prove you're not. How do how do I prove not? I've got black friends. It's racist statement. Well, I'm I'm not racist because I am colorblind that's racist as well. Oh. Gosh. By a head Scratcher I, I'm not racist because whatever you say is GonNa. Make you a racist you can't prove a negative.

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NPR News: 09-01-2020 5AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 10 months ago

NPR News: 09-01-2020 5AM ET

"Live from NPR, news in Washington. I'm Dave Mattingly President trump is traveling to Canossa Wisconsin today NPR's Windsor. Johnston says, the president plans to meet with law enforcement nine days after police shot and seriously wounded a black man sparking protests. President trump is expected to reiterate his law and order theme during his visit to Kenosha today, the city has been the site of ongoing protests that broke out after twenty nine year old Jacob. Blake was repeatedly shot in the back by police. The State's Democratic governor has asked the president to reconsider his trip in a statement governor. Tony Eager said he was concerned that trump's presence will interfere with the city's ability to overcome division and move forward. That's NPR's Windsor Johnston, the sheriffs of two counties near Portland. Say they will not go along with Oregon's governor and send deputies to the city to help deal with ongoing protests there. They've been occurring nightly for more than three months. Fire officials in California say crews have made. Progress in recent days in their efforts to contain some of the large wildfires burning in and around the San Francisco Bay Area Marcos Siler Gonzales with member station K. Q. E. D. says the US Army is deployed two hundred soldiers to northern California to help firefighters. The August complex fire has already consumed over two hundred thousand acres in and around the Mendocino national forest and is one of eighteen major fires burning across the state. That has left fire crews stretched thin Nicole Hawk Women Deputy Public Affairs Officer for US Army North says after receiving some training soldiers will help to hold existing fire lines to make sure that there's no issues with areas re burning or firefighters reigniting the August complex fire is around twenty percent contained for NPR news. I'm Marco Sadler Gonzales in Oakland Power and water are still out to hundreds of thousands of people living along the Gulf coast of Louisiana. In the aftermath of Hurricane Laura Paul Brown with member station W. R. K. F. says the storm left at least nineteen people dead an estimated three, hundred, twenty, four, thousand. Customers are still without power and hundreds of thousands lack running water Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards said many communities in north and central Louisiana should have power stored within a matter of days. But in the hardest hit parishes near Lake, Charles it could take much longer. But the fact of the matter is in the cow cushy area probably looking at about three weeks or so before some of those communities start powering, Edwards said Corona viruses forced Louisiana to rethink how it shelters people forced out of their homes by the storm so far the state has placed more than fourteen thousand people in hotels instead of traditional congregate shelters. For NPR news I'm Paul Brown in baton. Rouge. Laura did an estimated eight to nine billion dollars worth of damage in the US. This is NPR news. The number of corona virus. Infections in Russia now tops one million health officials in Moscow say the country top that mark after another forty seven, hundred, twenty, nine cases were reported. Today Russia ranks fourth in total infections behind the US Brazil and India last month Russia announced it had approved the world's First Cova Seen, advanced trials are underway in Russia on about forty thousand people. A far right publication in France is receiving criticism for depicting a black parliament member as a slave NPR's eleanor beardsley says, the Paris prosecutor has opened an investigation like many fringe publications. Valor actual publishes a weekly novel at for it's summertime readers its latest featured, Black far-left parliamentarian. Daniel, Bono in an eighteenth century plot around slavery, this story included a sketch of her with an iron collar around her neck a- Bono called it a political and racist attack condemnation from all corners has been swift President Emmanuel macron personally phoned a Bono even Francis far right Party condemned the publication valor actual apologized but denied the article was racist since George Floyd's death. France has faced a reckoning over its colonial legacy and racism with infringe police in society eleanor Beardsley NPR News Paris. There are no immediate reports of damage or injuries after a strong earthquake struck off the coast of northern Chile this morning and had a magnitude of six point eight. I'm Dave Mattingly in Washington.

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Championship Round Breakdown - 1.21

Bro Bro Bro Bets

38:19 min | 5 months ago

Championship Round Breakdown - 1.21

"Grill goes the show started. I mean what would you ever done number. One sports gambling podcasts. Coming out of the pat v incorporate offices i am tone digs sitting to my left is the aforementioned pat massey. How're you doing. It not too shabby excited to be here. Cannot wait to hear pies. Onslaughts on some moves. Also get some ideas on who should be hammer and welcome to the fan. Dole family virginia officially and michigan. Tomorrow we got betting the games to win. We got money to take over. We only got a few games. Tuna states a lot more money fan dole. Lot more money in your pockets as well bengal the canadian sensation bubba. Gump pino sitting. The pats left. How're you doing sir. Great tony how are you. How's how's your gambling gone. Have a handle took it on the shins. Yesterday was a tough day. Day before that you clean asa. We're winning people money there. That's all that matters. What do you got the hat on for. I mean i'll be never sit in this room without a head on zero attacked him on the phone former. Nfl gm host lombardi line may subscribe to the daily coach. Jim shuffled pod. Put your computer on silent. Michael lombardi boy pies. Are we doing today. Gentlemen how we doing. I i just want you to know i got. I sent some stuff so you can get ready to lost the championship game next week or the week after the super bowl all that so you should be getting in the mail here. I saw you. I saw you sent it appreciate it. I have to ask you this. I hope it's not in reference to what i think it's in reference to know said food i i that that's not what i was talking about. Talk says more long book or really a big hitting the office. michael. I can promise you that. Then you know. I mean it's a big hit every. Yeah it's a big hit everywhere some yourself woah. The popcorn is unbelievable. We that i just checked the email to see the email that i missed. Because i didn't know i got an email from you. I just i clicked on email. Is this when he sent all of us. Yeah you gave a ted talk. I didn't know this do gave a fucking dead talk. Yes lead. i gave one out and by attorney sling around. I can't get it straight. Aren't there are much better now. Trying to hide a chin. I gave one out in santa barbara thing i've ever done in my life pat. I just hardest thing i've ever done in my life. Why just because everybody else. Does it sound so smart all the time. And you you because you you'll get fifteen minutes to do it and you have no powerpoint presentation. You have no cue cards. It's memorized it's hamlet to be or not to be like you go like you. Just gotta go do it. And you can't stutter on a line or forget ally. I never was more scared in all my life. I dry probably as much jack ends. I could drink the celebration job well done. I haven't washing job. Well done dunya. I don't know. I mean it was good. I didn't have a blurp. And i got it in and if you don't you got to do it in amount of time and you have like an. There's people there watching and you come on that stage and you get in that circle and you're like holy shit. This is scary. Not a lot of people get a chance to get into the ring. Pow not knows. I really enjoyed it but it was the hardest thing i've ever done in my life to we. Can i ask him a question you can. I don't wanna move around too much here but syria and he becomes the head. Coach of the eagles is that. Because they think a little piece of frank reich is coming back to carson wentz. Because he was the offense coordinator. What exactly are your thoughts on that. Oath topless also been living in the two thousand seventeen super bowl. I think this is a move where they touch shrank right. You know it's a connection to frank. I mean look you know josh mcdaniels was involved in it. I only know josh. Josh is one of the best football people around in my life. So i'm not. I don't know nick. He's never really called place. Frank calls plays so you're getting an inexperienced offensive coordinator who's really you know. Frank runs the office. I think everybody would readily admit that it doesn't mean he can't be a head coach. I think this is bigger than that. And i think the eagles believe as the organization they can carry the head coach. They've got a line coach. They got all these people. They'll help them put together as defensive staff. It's the subcontractor element of the national football league door on philadelphia if they hired mcdaniels. That wouldn't have been the case and a first time head coach. Basically being able to be told what to do right. Yeah i mean look look. Here's what i say all the time. These jobs that are hard. They need experience. You know and the answer. Most questions is not through limitation. Like if you're nick if you're in houston and your next desario. You can't eliminate the shot wants because he's a distraction. You have to solve the problem through thought through your experience through what you remember what people have told you taught you how they solved it through the years but when you minimize the head. Coaching role like the eagles clearly have done taking some with no experience. not even a playcaller. No disrespect to nick. I don't know nick. But that's a real challenge. That's a real challenge. You're gonna learn on the job and the nfl is not a place to learn on the job. It's not very friendly. Hey did you watch the dang cable press conference or the bob slaw press conference with which i have not heard about it. I mean city. Dan because of us. Did you hear about motor city. Dan's press conference because i l electric pas on our twitter. I was working on something else like they were. Basically people were going nuts over it. I guess i gotta watch it. I don't know how that gig last jays exist gal and a coffee before noon. Coury carden listen to this might dairies. Butler came on my show or whatever you know. And he and i were teammates for a few years three or four years or whatever. And we've we know each other pretty well and that is the type of thing that i think a lot of. Nfl guys could. Potentially you know. I want to say mark or potentially get sick of rather quickly and locker rooms by the way. Have a quick way seen through some stuff. It seems like if you talk to tomorrow. Davis motor city. Dan every single day guys. Like if you're just your genuine self every single day if it comes and goes you know guys were noticed that but boy he's going to have to get a specific group of players in that locker room. I think mike yeah. You can really see chris spielman. I mean if you ever listened to chris bill do a game he all. He talks about his pad. Level of toughness flip ring. And where's where's the where we're going to put your face in like. I a tough sport but football's intellectual sport to you got to think your way through some things this gonna be interesting. I mean look what we know. That the smartest guy is usually when it's not necessarily the ones that have screamed the loudest might not be all in on dang. You're not all in motorcity mc dc all in on all in on that at professional level. I think that works in college. I don't think it works a profile. Thank you can scream. And i think there's a the motivation to sports comes to intellectual capacity. I think this and i told this to my two sons. whether you're eighteen y black or ninety white or black players will only listened to you if you could make them better. It's three your intellectual capacity to make them better. You can capture their attention not through your metaphors of lions running through the forest where the gazelle chasing somebody. That doesn't work that that's not really what it's about it's about how i can actually stimulate you to make you the best player you can see. Snake oil does tend to run out. Oh did what are you saying. You just thought you were talking shit on sunday right there. I mean guy in minnesota. Oh my question. that's what i'm here. You type the words out as bill. Walsh once said to me. Nineteen eighty four. The nfl is not the best and the brightest dot dot dot always has proven true. It is down el camino arrive on time. And he was complaining about now remember. There's no cell phones now. There's no serious radio in the car. We couldn't listen to the pat mcafee. Show driving to the you know we couldn't have done any of that right so you know we have is attention and i would say to them and somebody got a job. But i don't wanna say who and he's like you know. This is not just so you're aware of this michael. This is not the league of the best of the brightest and so why wall say that to me. He said that to me. Because when he was a young assistant at the cincinnati bengals. He was the offensive coordinator. He was the godfather of the west coast offense and he invented this offense because of the expansion team bengals. He knew he couldn't block anybody so he really wanted long handoffs through the passing game so we invented this off bench and paul brown allowed to do it but with paul brown didn't allow to do was go on to become a head coach. Paul brown kind of made fun of if anybody called to ask about him he had no chance to get the job kind of steered him away. And then when paul brown retired walsh was convinced he was going to become the head coach of the bengals and he gave it the bill. Johnson is that the coach and walsh was swift furious. He went out to san. Diego became the office coordinator for one year became the head coach at stanford for two years. Which is his always believe is simply this is if you want to be a head coach. Be a head coach. Go prove the people you can do it. you know. go prove to people you can do it. And then they can't deny you once you do so. And then he became the head coach at stanford at at the forty niners forty eight forty nine years old. It took him forever. Same thing with vince lombardi. He could never get a head coaching for he thought it was because he was italian and he thought it was more about race about his his heritage. That it was anything. But it's the same issue and the league simply doesn't always promote the best candidates promote the candidate that fits them best. That happens a lot By the way. I don't want to say not just the nfl. But that seems to happen a lot. I think everybody is realizing in the world. So you're tweet fifty two minutes ago mike. Who was it about serianni. Well i mean. Look i will say this without without any. I don't know what the us looking for. I'll talk to anybody but if you were to go into a room and talk football with one man and the other man. It's not even close. That's not that's not close. Oh so you think. Mcdonald's should have got the wa. Obviously the people were sierra need. Beat out no. I don't think that my point was people. Get jobs you remember. It's elected not selected so it wasn't about steelers. Signed dwayne haskins. No no no look. I think the steelers are probably sitting there. Saying what are we gonna do. We liked this kid coming out. If anybody can change the kid could be tomlin. Hey same agent to. He's probably getting a little bit more information. Same agency. I guess not say major but same agency tomlin. Probably kylo bit deeper into the story the whole thing. And the steelers do need quarterbacks. You know there's a sign when you leave barsha california at a diner and bar sto the sign says either you eat here. We both stars. Because there's no place to get food between barstow and neuve. Las vegas right behind me here. We both start right. And that's the way and haskins either doesn't good at pittsburgh. He's going starve. If tomlin custom it's over for me it's really no risk for the steelers. You have a chance to potentially get better at the backup position because mason rudolph's stinks ban can get him away from the strip. Do i want to don't want him as my starting quarterback right now no but if he gets a chance to sit maybe for a year and see how that goes. Maybe i just know. It's better than mason. Rudolph i think yeah. You can throw the football. They have the same problem so tone. I think they both have anticipation programs. I think they have to see it before they can throw it. Listen if you want. Hugh jackson interviewing for the offensive coordinator job do i. I think that they are interviewing hugh because he always had seem to have a good run game. And i think mike and he's talked about it in many press conferences. Since at the end of the season and then press conference after the season they have to fix the run game. And i know that hugh has done that in places. What do you think about you. While i mean houston a good job as an office coordinator. You know hugh knows the west coast offense so i think a lot of people. They stopped coaching. When they get become head coaches. They forget that they were hired to be the best coach on the staff so they stopped being the best coach stray off. You know. i think everybody's entitled to a second chance. I think if tomlin gives him the opportunity to do what he can do. Then he's got a bright offense of mine. i mean. he's not been a coach. This lasted this long. Because he doesn't know what to do matt canada's getting guess pella. Sarah told us. Yeah that's what i heard. I was surprised now. Maybe he will come in as the run game coordinator. Yes last week. Canada was assumed to be the next. Oh see but then it hasn't been announced yet and that's because they said there are bringing an o line coach is to make sure their philosophy matches the o. sees philosophy so and then the news came out about today. Which was a little bit surprising. But we'll see you will need a running back to have a run game as well. James conner can sign back nice rage and he's gone. He's gone who you bring into it. I'm an jones. I'm bringing anybody tones. Gotta look at his cap. See this is the other thing. I think that everything. Everybody's missing about this shawn watson rumors about where he's going to show up right so there's so many people that don't have capital that would have to take on. I talked to gm in the league. The other day said this is the most ridiculous story out there that that they would actually trade 'em he doesn't believe their trail that may be true. That may not be. I don't think adam schefter. Chris mortensen are making stuff up. But i'm just saying that's what this guy told me but let's take it a step further like you know. Somebody's got to create the cap room and with a cap going down and to take on a huge cap number. Now you can lowers charge. No doubt but you still have to get him on your team before you do that. I guess it isn't it. Isn't it only ten and a half this year though. Mike is only ten and a half this upcoming year though baby but you still have to take it on. Yeah you know. And then houston's got to dump all the money that they just gave him into their cap. Are they going to do that. It's so interesting. Because in all sees a franchise not only the baggage alongside of whatever comes from a cash standpoint and salary caps him. He's your franchise quarter they. He's a franchise quarterback in the nfl. It's like if you move on. Are you saying okay. We can find another one or we're going to get another one or whatever because you need to have a quarterback if you wanna win or they just hoping to be good in just kind of get along with. It's a very interesting very interesting situation down there. That doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon. And the other thing is. I davis refuse to allow us to trade any player to anybody. Like if al davis was running the texans first of all he he wouldn't be in the situation. But if you around the texans you would be able to trade him to indianapolis jacksonville. Yeah there's no way somebody was saying there's no way they trade him to indy. No way you could do that right. And and i take a step further. There's no way you can train them to afc team. Would you want to have to have him. Standard your way of getting to the super bowl. Happy laris though. You know what i mean. That's james throwing a dagger against tampa. Yes sir i think you can over think anything until they have a coach till caserio actually meets with watson to write with how come how come caserio hasn't met with watson array like it allowed to. I'll think you're allowed to talk to players right now. You can't make come in the building. Eka go see him right. I don't know that. I think the rules prohibit some of that contact. That'd be interesting to me because let's say caserio. His name's nick by the way chris. That's on the hundred percent. But let's say caserio when shawn watson was on that island somewhere magic caserio island k. And he goes. Listen all right. We handle this to shawn watson. That guy showed a little like this guy wants me to be here. You know now. He's not the problem. By the way which i've made very clear it's the person above but isn't that something you would want to do. You said get the daboh so dab teach you how to hopefully win over. Do you think there's rules prohibiting from him going and talking to him and settling though situation just have this one on one meeting with the player. i think it's got the based on the old. I don't know i'd have to check on that but it doesn't stop you from going to do. I know see the mother. I would go flying scene of the mothers the most influential person in his life. I'd go find his mother. I wouldn't stop like like i said earlier. There's no. There's no way i'm stopping. I'm not straighten him. I can't get enough back in trade. i'm. I'm not giving up the one of the best quarterbacks football to hope i get a quarterback can't do it father. I'm gonna talk to anybody i could talk to. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do everything in my power to show this young man that i'm on this this quarter like that. There's nothing more important. I can do that. Kind of goes to watson point watsons point. Maybe just doesn't do enough in general for him he doesn't like that's easterby gives. You don't like what you know. Easter be but you know different needs to be. I guess that's what it is. And and maybe caserio thinks there's nothing i can say to make him change apple. Maybe and and i think people would potentially say like orchestras chasing around score. It's like this is part of job here. Mary and gm you gotta deal with this type of stuff right. There's no doubt every day there's something coming up every single. Never makes it to the press that you've gotta deal with this last portion of the show mike. I like what we did. Last thursday win You had kinda had like your breakdowns of the games and how you see. They're going to go so we'll start with that First game in the weekend box at packs minus before we start that the outright winner yep lynch spread in all five of the last thirty eight conference championship games. Thirty three and five. The first week was forty four or five and one for wildcard and then last week you said it was like eighty five percent eighty nine percent last week. We didn't cover was new england when they beat jacksonville. Just remember this going next playoffs when we're talking about all this fucking winter. Yeah well we did that week. One week one we hit on what was their six games week. One i think what five and one except for the one at lombardi changes. Yeah that was my phone number but no but trends and everything. He's saying that we should have done it. We should have just picked up on home. Teams are ten and four against the spread and conference championship since twenty thirteen new but home teams this year in the playoffs are only four and six against the spread. Wow home field. It's not the same home field anymore. But casey and lambeau case. He's not with buffalo though. What do you mean doesn't really matter right. Same code code out there. I met with fans. Okay yeah yeah. girls mafia. By the way we'll find a way in there and they're seventeen thousand right. I guess. I don't know if tai i guess getting back stick it's difficult. I would assume so very very different. Sixty seven hundred or something. Yeah Do you have any other transport now. Tom brady when the over fifty. He's twenty two out of twenty nine to the under. Oh here we go. Packers are getting more than fifty percent of the bets in his career. He's twenty eight fifteen and three against the spread and to ano against the spread with the bucks. I believe the packers have gone over the last six or seven Playoff games Yeah what are we doing away. We got trends against box at pax open three and a half three right now. Fifty eight percent tickets. Fifty eight percent of the money on the pax. Lombardi think. I mean i think i have. Both these games is really almost. Pick 'em type games you know when you break down. Let's go kansas city buffalo. Mike and before you start. Can i ask so normally in a normal year if the if the line sets the home or if the book sets line at minus three somewhere around there we'll see as minus three normally. They also think the game is a pick em but they're giving three for home field advantage. If you talked to have you guys talked at all about this are the bookmakers makers change that this year. I think we also talked to the bookmakers vinnie at the at the south point so they opened up this line in the buffalo kansas city game with the idea that mahomes was going to play and then it moved from three down to two and a half right away and then it got bought back up to three. They probably would have if he if he would have been healthy after the game and no different get And like a normal game. They might have opened this at four. He said but it went to three. Because there was some degree of uncertainty and the other game they felt the same thing they i think they start at three and a half and it's kind of gotten debt different directions. Okay go ahead with bucks packers so for me like i always go over okay. I half point. Totals buffalo scott thirteen. They average about thirteen and a half points in the first first half. Kansas city's eleven. You know on the first quarter both these teams relieving both average four and a half points but when what changes a little bit is buffalo's better in the fourth quarter. They all scored nine points in the fourth quarter where kansas city only scores seven. And a half and then to me. The difference in the game really comes into the red zone buffalo's better in the red zone. They are fifteen points for in the red zone. Kansas city's at thirteen. I think it's a really close game. I'm worried i got. I got messed up last week. We can't field goal kicker. I worry about that a little bit. I worry about how kansas city. They're both about this three percent on third dow all they both are able to convert and then when i break away you know both these teams are really good in the middle eight. Kansas city's three seven nine buffalo's three five. Oh which means variable score so. I think it's a really even game. I think that their power rank really even canceling slightly better than the. Here's to me. The key to the game buffalo has got to not punt. They can't putt more than more than one time. They can't pump more than once you pun twice you're gonna loose and so they've got to be really good on third short. They got really good on fourth short. They've got a really use josh allen feet. I think five to six to eight runs out of josh allen was going to be critical. They got to control the ball but forget about control. The ball carolina controlled the ball for thirty eight thirty nine minutes. And the chief senate twenty one and the chiefs still gore thirty three points. So you've gotta be able to control the ball you gotta score upon score you got hold serve and you can't I saw i heard earlier today Only one team has lost In this championship round when they've scored thirty points in that was the chiefs against the patriots two years ago. I believe if you remember that. Game Offsides game. yeah tat he talked about. Bucker wasn't their whole issues with bucker. Yeah snap snappy. She's the laces restraint back. Paul was spinning. That's napper's very good. I assume they get that tightened up. I think bounce back very nicely. You're with your saying only loud one or whatever that means field goals are okay in this particular situations. What you're saying. Why think you gotta go for some of those field goals. I think if it's fourth four and you're going to try to kick a fifty yard field goal. You're better off going for that for sure. Especially i think you've gotta play that out. I think you've gotta be really careful there on that. And and i think that that's going to be critical when you do it like you know. Look the patriots scored thirty seven points against when they want out there. That was thirty. One thirty one game in overtime and you know. The patriots were the patriots. Were thirteen for eighteen on third down in that gate shoot. That's what you gotta have. You gotta have a lot of third downs. You've got to convert them and you got to score a lot of points. Do you guys have a feeling in this early game. Do you think josh allen ball. He was missing was because of the wind last week. Because i get hard. It's hard to judge the win. You know when it's behind you hits in front of you. You know if you go back to that game. When when when new england dominated the game new england in that game brady won their new england had over five hundred yards of offense. Five hundred yards of offense and the chief said two hundred. Ninety new england had the ball and that was an overtime game. We landed a ball forty three minutes to the chiefs twenty minutes. That's what you're going to have to win this game. You got score with them and you got to keep the ball away from his much as possible and really the key is how many possessions are you willing to get. How many of you will lead to get do not times. The patriots punted in that game when they beat on the voice. Who was it. Ryan allergy bailey was right now on in that game. They it twice. They put it to start when they got the ball start when they started. They held them. They got the ball to kick off the start when when cassie scored in the second half. They went nine play they went. They went Six place in pawtucket so they punted then and they punted earlier the second quarter when they could move the ball. They had a pump but after that they never punted again. I think it's the timing of the punts. Pumpkin come early late in the game that you're not going to be able to pop because that's when patrick mahomes check and half you can't cut you right. You can't putting in the second uni earlier indications on this one. I have no idea. Dude i just. I think the chiefs always end up winning that just for whatever reason but the bills have been doing the same damn thing Dairies butler likes the bills to go in there. It patrick mahomes is going to be playing. Obviously the protocols you get through it. The toe is a pain in the ass. But i think they'll shoot that up so i don't think you'll even feel it but that could potentially get him off his game that game. I mean they got it right right. I mean we gotta right gave see in the. Nfc got it right here. These are the four teams. That i think the two teams from the afc and intercity that everybody who watches sport these teams. That should be in there just like you were saying that. Got him into pick them in a pick them or whatever. It's like the championship weekend as got a completely right. I think that's what is going to be very difficult to pick mike. What are your notes on green bay in bucks one other thing. I wanna hit. I think i think what patch said is really true so i. I don't think there'll be any quarterback sneaks in this game nor will any quarterback rugs game day can't wrist mahomes taken a hit. Two cannot risk that if mahomes gets up a little groggy and his knee buckles just a little bit. I agree the to- i think is as bad as anything. They're not let us know that he gets pulled from the game. And you won't see him anymore. So andy reed's gotta be really careful how much he uses mahomes in the in the running aspect of the game. If i were sean mcdermott i would say i hope they try to run. A much sneak. I hope they try to run. That read that loaded option that they run down the goal life. Because we're gonna his ass say some. That people aren't going to like colts. Should he beat the bills all talker. Mrs two field goals. Lamar throws a pick six hundred one yard. Yeah i mean you don't believe in a bills the chiefs for me all day long. Wow what do you think about the other game. Like the other game to me. All right let me ask this question before we gotta go. What game do we. There's always a route this weekend right. There's always a games is not as close as we hope right. Yeah what were you guys. What games that expanding too. I do too. I think look you go back to watch the packers got up ten of the rogers whose great when he threw that interception economy fell apart on them. You know. I think they have to change what they do. The last time they played american aaron jones had ten carries for fifteen yards. You can't do that. You got it you gotta come out throwing the ball against the bucks. That's why teams average more passes in the first half that runs against the bucks. The number one in the league against that. You gotta throw the ball. I don't think the bucks can match the packers. The bucks offense will struggle a little bit. Not that they won't move the ball but i think the packers will move the ball well in the air. If they don't try to establish their own a run there they were trying to run. Why all the time on the bucks defense. I don't think he can do that. I think you taking inside or just roll it. So since one thousand nine hundred eighty six. There's been fifteen. Instances of an nfl team plane three straight road playoff games. So it's the same. As tampa on sunday four and eleven straight up five and ten against the spread and over the last eight games one and seven. Straight up and against disrobe. Well that'll tell you something. Yeah i may take an alternate spread of about two two and a half touchdowns on this. Don't do holy shit. I've never heard you that confident in anything before the last time i was this confident with seahawks broncos in new york so you bet on bronco read here you a look good. Read here when he was. Oh no but i mean in this game. You're going green bay. I think so alternate spread. He said i. I've been watching this all week. I think it's a route by green bay. But i don't know i think greenville throw the ball. I don't know if the box what quarterback have the bucks beaten that's really good They lost twice debris last week. They've beaten taylor hanky and redo breeze. Who is wife says as a bad shoulder. Bad knee packers. Just can't turn the ball over right. Can't let's go. that's exactly right. Last time they turned over. You know when that's the question. Whoever turns this ball over is gonna lose and rogers is usually really careful with the football. Last time they played at t at two turnovers in the game. I'm checking out with the alternate spread boosts. I'm a boost an alternate. Yes that's gonna be my entire to cast so is this is another important fact. Last time they played everybody thinks the bucks offense was dynamic brady at one hundred and sixty six yards passing in the last time they played rodgers threw a pick six and then threw an interception his own. Half to we'll do our. We'll do our picks tomorrow. Mike gas we're going at one props or anything tomorrow or over under anything like that. Take a look at them all right. I'll see more. Yeah do few since. There's only two games if you guys have any like. We do multiple tony tony. Prompt times options on faneuil hunt more ways to win. You could bet that in virginia and maybe tomorrow in michigan do i think he can michigan more You're right. I mean bet. Line super bowl with m. c. d. Bro you like you like the chiefs a lot on you. Yeah i'm not I know how good josh allen looked. He had look great in the regular season. They should've lost that game to the call is not wrong there. I don't think and he was hidden. Every ball was overthrown deep. All last week. I was soon. Ask him bardy to So i believe when they played kansas city in buffalo. Let me go. Let me go to that box score. Twenty six fourteen twenty six. I just sent him my boost. I just sent my best. Clyde edwards helaire ran for one sixty one the fan though jordan. Just tell me and said look alternate alternate line packers mice thirteen and a half plus three hundred. We can boost that up. If he's listening right. I set you apart late jordan. I think we're going after what he just said. You know what i mean. Oh are we alternates. Burton chiefs packers. Now now now. I think i'm just going for my soup from my super boost. It hasn't hit in a little bit. So i'm one that is still boost able but also hit a ball going. I don't want to give it away. But i'm gonna parlay both games. I did pick who i think. My bets are locked in at this point now like to be done and they give and excited world now says tomorrow the super bowl seven packers minus twenty and a half he said. How confident are you. That's a plus six hundred weekend. Really get that back plus fifteen. You don't wanna back when it's thirty four ten and get back toward thirty four seventeen. Listen to phantom how we make it twenty eight. That's what it seems like. That's what they're doing over there. They're big fans of the show. Obviously jordan shot to you. I texted jordan The last couple of weeks about my bad beat seek help me out. He said he's trying to pull some strings for me. Which i appreciate jordan. Yours is more important. Yes yes a lot more important. Oh maybe frontier light of me your leary much to be my life your yeah thanks still writes selfish cow older one one. Hey yeah gambling bay. We cannot forget turned did biko ver. He also became the best gambler. Ever been been worse since i got out of the game. If with all due respect. I think you did and it was just yeah just looked at numbers and stuff for. You deserve deserve to win there. We'll be back tomorrow with all the pets. I am so pumped survive govan. Thank you could you imagine. If he didn't help be terrible. A pretty cool. What's it what would not have been all away from me. go out. i mean gumby. Though by the way is saying that he would have been really sad even though you buried him for his life off. That's me though right. Initially thought of myself and then i said no. No no. don't do that at this moment. You're right especially 'cause he's covered. I'm not much. But i am loyal. I i love you. I wish you would. I wish you would let that head breathe a little bit today. Don't you think he would've borrow wires another day. What happen don't give it. They were sitting right underneath the light tune in tomorrow tomorrow at three thirty wears a hat or not for hockey don and to not hockey talk. Great show that's walkie talk. Dumpy one. no hat tough. Light is as this show continues on through the winter and spring. Probably not to do hockey every night. We're auto comes in the office. I mean you're the best hockey game where we know. I am currently sharpie nick. Nick went three and olaf night. Oh next trying to catch up to me yet. He thinks the pen stink. All their goalie does by the way the pens play tomorrow. They are four no to the over four no first period over see. That's what we're talking about. Just for no for goal and i ten. It was only three and three. I'm way to have this guy spreading false propaganda on my name. Not just that you hate to paying no. I don't hate them but they are in for a rough go here they. They're missing three of the top six defensemen for the next couple of weeks. So why didn't you no injuries. Maybe maybe look to the overs in those games. I was three and three. But thank you for inviting me potentially onto future shows. That was when i heard you were three. No doubt i haven't had a negative day yet though. That's that's all the cats all gambling baby percent. That's gambling baby. We're also going to billy walters on the show soon. He got pardoned him way. Most famous gamblers vault insider trading. What does that mean. It wasn't i. I read the story All mickelson had to do was come out and tell the true story but mickelson didn't wanna hurt his image so he didn't testify so billy went to billion whatever and then mickelson wrote a letter and got him mickelson. Fill oh phil godman was still put berry pills gamble. Put billy behind bars. I the the headline was basically like even though he sent him to jail michelson don him out of this whole thing or whatever his referral thing. You'll fill tough tough month for the gulf community. What do you mean we're talking about. I mean that tiger doc slander justin thomas. I didn't watch the i haven't either. I don't want. I don't need to see it. Yeah but nick said. It's actually pretty fast. But nick hates teicher. Yeah and i do believe nick would like a good expose foxy who loves tigers gonna watch episode too soon here so we'll get both sides okay. I'm tiger fans welby target again. That is false. Don't pay tiger champion for truth. And i'd like tire stories. Selective truths selective. Truth is the interesting thing. They're put that love. Put that on my grave. Champion of truce check print shirts. What a hero dude. Are you kidding me. What a fucking hero champion of truth. He'll have fucking championship belt on tomorrow. What a line that nick. One line hammer die.

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OITNB Episode 120: "New Stripes"

Cincy Jungle

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OITNB Episode 120: "New Stripes"

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It's the reliability unique when you need it with no mystery fees no activation fees and no contract ever get the no contract advantage simple mobile out with the in with the simple five g capable device and sim required actual availability coverage and speed may vary five g network not available in all areas five g upload speed not yet available hello world separated from everybody off address secret sauce. Never get too high. The host callers never be any kind of sports in high school. Welcome to the new black podcast. I'm your host as believe trump on macos zamzam. Say what's up hello world. How's everybody filling out there tonight. And who they land. We are live in the building. Is this a live show nine. All right i just saw the word lie. So i'm saying live because we have live energy tonight. How about the facts facts. So we got to get into a new stripes Mamas who they were there. So i'm just gonna pass to you. It was a dope event and everything what was just light your thoughts from just a real event itself in just the jerseys. The overall event is before. I get to the event itself in jersey. Just wanna give a shout out to everybody. I showed me love and cincinnati. Light no matter where i went. It could have been a hotel. It could have been street. It could've been anywhere. Laugh on a trap shot out. Some lambs shot to anybody. That showed me love like the whole weekend. Like my man shine. Took me around a little bit. Like there's so many different things like pre you know like the and all that stuff where people just by town and then it just automatically show me love or i will go eat or something like that. And they were all birla. Let me take a picture and stuff like that. So even before the event. I was kinda worried. That a lotta people probably would just see like all pictures of me or whatever. 'cause i supposed to say like super super tight lip but somebody accident before picture or just saying. Hey what's up like you know. I'm not gonna knock catching picture like. I'm not famous and so i was a little bit worried about that but everybody was so cool to me. Like it's part of the reason why i became a bengal fan. I wish i could have thought. Elizabeth is like early on. You know like. I was going to bengals games. And i didn't really. I wasn't even use bengal fan but everybody always showed me love there so i just want to give a special shout out the cincinnati that whole weekend. Anybody has seen me like you could just you. I'm telling you. When i came back i just said to my so if the energy is like this right now and we're not even playing a game i'd have been i'll bet all around the world. Will i been anywhere you could think of. I've been to every island. I'd have been the vegas everything it we're winning. Cincinnati is going to be lit up like las vegas. But it's like that was part of the thing i was talking to everybody about. You gotta carry yourself like you wanna win a you know. Sometimes it might not happen that way but you gotta move forward in the one thing about all of our fans is that we've lost for so long and what are we got five straight losing seasons. I think that you know part of what. I'm learning as i go further on his journey with you. Is that a lot of players. A lot of coaches. Watch this stuff so you gotta think you know all this doubt that's creeping into your mind and different things like that. They're watching that stuff too. Full of quarter stuff like you know they might. You know they might not be thinking that straight up with subconsciously i think that's a factor so energy was lit. Drake drinks was free. Everything was flowing. You know what i'm saying. So it's all good and whether you win or lose. I just would encourage everybody to keep that. Same energy. Like sat out the copa brunch. All i can name all of these different spots like cincinnati is fine man like People were saying. I know yes has some videos and people were saying like man. I can't wait to get out there. I can't wait the mood in. I'm telling bengals like look. This is what we can do. You know like you know like people wanna make this a destination. I told reporters so at the event that was originally. I went to the event a which was insane. I'm telling them and they're probably looking at me like who is this dude. But i'm telling him. I said look i know a lotta. I'll probably don't care about the jerseys right ninety. I'll probably even going to wear jerseys but your son so you grandsons kids in what. I'm calling borough babies. They are going to wear the jersey so you better turn on his right now. Let everybody know that their fire. Because this is what you're going to see for the next couple of months. This is what you're going to see coming up this this season and had a great salt with dan. Hori he was like you know. I don't wear jerseys but you know. I understand that you know the kids are going to be wearing it. And he was very very into it like going through the details and stuff with me super super cool about it. Even though he knows he's not gonna wear jersey in. I'm just telling everybody like with this attitude that my frame that these jerseys are important or different things in cincinnati are important it resonates at home and ultimately if you win and they do good stuff. In jerseys. I was telling reporters is going to help. All your allows though is going to help out your family ultimately so i need everybody to turn up and then at that moment i think they probably like shut up like you're probably talking too much and then they cut on some music but then it helped me because i felt like it was let them because then the music was playing so they everybody was a little bit more looser. Whatever so you know. I just carry that with meet a whole time without being disrespectful or no buyer crazy like that but it was really cool to see you guys like the ice man jeff. A like i'm going in line. I had to rush. I was on jeff show. Yesterday i had to rush But there's some grill people out here my man My main beasley who are always see online and everything like that. It was some dues that you know i. I don't get a chance to see a beasley Some people. I don't get the chance to see but they were in line. You know ready for the jerseys i. Somebody's probably call out a work. So bengals fans are. You know this is a real deal in always and always say bengals you gotta be a rural special person magic. I'm going to lose the season you telling your boss. Hey i got. I can't go to work right now. You gotta make up a fake. Excuse 'cause i gotta go gotta go get some on monday. Stand in line at eight o'clock saying up early. That was early. It was a nice a nice nice like a shoe release was out there. You know saying you didn't even have to do that. You know you didn't have this stand in line to get a jersey as you see as right here with the jersey on so many different tales from the experience that i picked up on but the bengals treated us like so great. I'm very very thankful for sean. And his staff. Very thankful for elizabeth the queen a outstanding person super super relatable. In in in although she you might look at her and say well she you know she's super rich or You know she comes from wealth and stuff like that. I can tell you what my heart to heart conversations with elizabeth blackburn. She she keeps the losses in the in the pain that bengals fans she wears a right on our heart in his no is not a problem like expressing and Issue team she she. I don't think she wanted to commit to. But you know. I'm a very persuasive person. You are so there. Were some people that were in the room that witnessed you probably have to act like bangalore in other people were. I did at heard some of the till me. Her compensation some like one one of our one of our. We had a couple of commerce as well. One of the most important ones. I thought joe was in the background. Just finished strong. I'm talking to her on a. She's on a word the where the bar and a sweet and we're just talking. She's telling me about you. Know like you know the plight of her growing up you know where she is in for as many people that talk probably really really bad about a rare father know as you can expect. She had to be tough. I mean you know you couldn't just go out and go beat up somebody and they have created a storyline. A put that on your on your on your family's legacy so there you know everybody's got problems in different things that you probably never think about me hearing it from her life. She's just like i'm so dead tired of you know some of these narratives are somebody's things or whatever aim acne shore you. Maybe everything won't go what i planned or they're not going to get the people that i want. 'cause certainly you know her just into the physician she wouldn't have any say so on it but i can tell you she cares so anybody. That's saying that you know like mike brown doesn't care or anything like that like she didn't get that from nothing. You know like you wake up was passion you know you gotta you gotta have that in your heart and you probably got it from somebody around early on or something like that and now they go to deepen that conversation. I really felt like a. Lets me give her in. The organization benefited doubt on different things. Although i was very the point out if some things aren't right or if some things. I don't like or i think could be done better. I might tweet it out. I'm like come on our show. I might say those things but at the end of the day she's real in you know that gives me the benefit of the doubt because you know like i think people lose sight of that they get online and just say anything like i mean. I've read a lot of bad things about her grandfather. So can you imagine going online and saying people talk about your grandfather. They would've said to her life when she was in school because she just country day i just i think it's dope That she grabbed her bottom horn. She embraced it. She came back and was like. I'm about to change the narrative and i think that that's the dope is part about it. Is you some people in that situation. They may have shot away from it and it's like she was like nah. I'm about to grab this. I'm about to change the narrative myself. And i think that that's so dope about it. I told her that. I said straight up. You know listen. There's a lot of people like the reason why i'm a moreau. Bengals fan too is that there are a lot of parallels to the bengals losses and stuff in that kind of pair with my life on selfishly like different times when i should have won the super bowl in life. You know. I look two thousand five. You know things happen in my life. Go my way. Two thousand fifteen. These are things that i that are super relatable. Football is just like walking outside that living everyday like so In that aspect. I just wanted to make sure that. I let her know that. Like you know. Like i understand like these different things in. I don't know were like this is something you know. Like i just think of every. Damn i. You know my in my life and i think the joe burrow post afterwards let me just tell you are so i fly into the city. Hang out with people are shot up to my man at the mic. Sylla's like we. We went out with pro football focus. We did some stuff Did a lot of things you know that night. Nothing nothing illegal people. That a lot of things i just you know hanging out in cincinnati so just You know come back the next day. We are probably met up with people throughout the day and stuff 'cause a lot of this is a blur. it was like vegas bro. So then We come to the reveal. We don't know who's going to be there you know. I don't know the fans are going to be there. I don't know these different. Things are gonna be only know my point the my point of contacts. So we go there. We go into paul brown I'm seeing laurean for the first time. I see my girl whitney i seen Yeahs safe all these guys. Whatever that i see online all the time for the first time. Reese fire mocks. So we'll let's. I saw him for the first time. She was so so In commissioner yeah so we go to go to the locker room area before we walk in. You know me. i'm. I'm going to get the cameras out and everything they're like. No everybody out phones in the locker room dedicated a. But you know my personality. I'm i'm like. I've seen all of this stuff. They got bengals. Footballs and something. Like that can add that. Can that can add that. I think everybody was just so like so all the moment. But i just felt like in my brain. I should always been there. So we go through the whole thing Yeah my whole life. I felt like. I should have been there. I mean we go. I don't know two steps that got there. But they take us the paul brown stadium womb running routes on the i mean i stopped for a second and just got on the ground in. I just pull some grass and put in my pocket you know says you know it's just like these different like that. I'll never forget the sun just like came out. You're walking through seeing all these different pictures history. So many different things that i just remember and i think we got more harping on. I was like a picture. So we do that. We come out and then we We actually go up. Go look at like the room where they were designing a lot of different designs and stuff like that. Elizabeth gives me like a one of one. Mock other of the signature from paul brown man it was just a lot of it was a lot of good memories in that room. Because she was going around telling her story she went to the store herself in like pick everybody out drinks and stuff like all these different like cincinnati drinks since. I don't know the names of autumn. But i don't really drink beer. But she like different ones. It was a hey. I got some like she did it herself. Nobody like she went to the store and bought this stuff. It came in with two cooler bags and stuff. So i thought that was like so crazy and You know me. I'm still like oh can i have that like i mean she was like. Yeah yeah you gotta gave me some stuff that you know that. I thought it was really cool. I met her sister to that was really. I feel like nobody ever talks about her but she was there. She was really cool So then you know i there. We look we did that then proceeded show. Jerseys i mean i mean i was blown away because kobe protocol. People accidents like well. Where was ocho cinco. And where was joe and stuff like that. They did that a week ago before so we have many players there when we were there. So then we look at the jerseys and everything. I mean it. You know like a picture anything. But it's exactly like me and you said before it's we the jerseys. That leak is just was bad lighting a terrible picture from before so we do that. And then Yeah we eat. We take those pictures with the jersey's got a chance to sit in the same spot. The joe had. I like to think that. I the first fan. I could be wrong. I might be the first bengal man in history to wear to white show number nine because no one else was allowed to put on a jersey. Right they have their shoot the week before. Now somebody could have came in there and put a jersey on. Somebody could have stolen jersey or something like that. I don't know about or whatever but as far as like pictured in history. I think i'm the first man with a white. The new the white bengals jersey right now because nobody else even with our group pick white. I've made the white. Joe burrow nine and law then i didn't know and joe's photo ship photo shoot. He picks the white number nine. You know so. I just thought that was a real special moment for me because when i looked at i was i now. He's ever seen. And i'm putting these on and i'm like hey this is kind of like a part of history so for them to have those pictures and stuff. I thought that was really. Don't because i'm like you'd like. I can show my grandson if i you know if i'm if i live long enough to have a grandson like you know I could show them like. Hey look i was the first one that you know these new stripes and this was a moment time like when joel just came off of injury like i got a crazy story to tell people now off that so we do that. Then we eat food and we're just chilling talking all these heart to heart. Conversations happen then go out again. Another night is lit. Whatever they thinking like. You're not going to be able to get up tomorrow. More right. Yes i am. I'm living the rockstar. Like this is what i've been doing my whole life. I wake right up me and a game. We all pull up. You know at paul brown first thing in the morning they go through that. The media's there everybody's there anthony morocco's their dave lapham. Is there my man. James for pain. Is there paul. Diener ben baby to whole crew. Lyndsey patterson everybody's there so we're talking to those people and you know it was a good moment afterwards. I got a chance to do a live with you and mike daniels so we went to the pro shop just to touch it. See the jersey a little bit closer. 'cause when it was on medicare i didn't want to be the person to knock it over to our over with the harm over like over trying house. I'm not going to be that guy. So i go back to the thing and you know look at the jerseys but you know i just thought it was really Bengals looked out for us. One hundred times cannot thank them enough in something. I'll never forget for the rest of my life for sure. What was your first reaction. I guess like I don't know where did you see it for. Did you see it on my live. I know i went live in hands live. I think the first time that i saw jerseys was when they dropped them. Because i had. I had a twitter for twitter notifications turnoff for the bengals okay. I'm they dropped a video ocho cinco. I've seen it like right. You know why they dropped it that their early 'cause they had a timeframe like now this is. This is another behind the same thing. I was supposed to be. The first person to kind of go live on my instagram. With like you know as a fan. I guess that's why i i don't instagram twitter. If you're watching this you might have esperanto twitter but bengals. Uk had a time they had communication on the time difference thing and he dropped or whatever whoever's avoid them drop so now we have another leak so then they were forced to say boom. Let's put it out. 'cause that's about twenty thirty minutes before you see elizabeth blackburn doing all this stuff. They want it that morning. Whatever they were. I don't speak for them. But i just saw some things and i don't think that they intended to go that way. So that drop. Because i look my phone line. They sean jerseys. Winning down here is so. That was kind of crazy now. That's crazy. I wasn't 'cause i was at work and i was hearing it so we're not seeing any going from my phone. Then i look. And i was like oh bet so i didn't even see the you a bengals. Uk join yet. But i saw that. And then i think i saw that you went live on twitter. I think right win. Asad video record outside your video on twitter. I was watching your video on twitter. where you you was talking to somebody and i think you were looking at like a mannequin and stuff like that. You were up close on it. You were having a conversation with somebody. I think next to us as everybody else ally you was. You was breaking down a uniform. So i appreciate it that because it was everybody started talking about the white pants with the orange stripes you were talking about it as everyone was kind of talking about it on twitter like yoga and everybody was like making it a big deal and it was perfect because you were talking about it in. I think it just gave people like when you look at a jerseys you have. I feel that we all had the same thoughts. I i feel like i feel like I think people looked at like the orange and black combo. 'cause it's light when you see that combo is like man 'super har- day. You notice the whites so nice is orange and then when you start to look you see the white one. He like who that white on white is like clean and then when you see. I think it's the orange with the white and orange pants is like woo. That's hard to and now life for me. It didn't hit me until the end like after. Start washing your thing. I've jumped on and someone way marble guy went live in the pro shop on facebook. So when he did that. I i i was like yeah. Let me get that. Let me get that at orange. Borough like i want to get that homeowners borough quick and then he liked panned and i saw how to black jersey. Look like from the video in. Hey and four k. And i was like ooh i need to. I gotta get that black join too so i think everybody's reaction was the same i think in all ended on authorities jerseys are fired ranked all three of them like they all bring something to the table in. It's like i think dan who said he likes for for on the field. He likes the orange and black blackman's but he was like if i were to buy a jersey. It will be the white one like everybody had their own. Like kind of thing. And i think i was watching elizabeth and it was like crazy because at first it was a toss up to me between which one was the hardest and now like the more and more kept seeing the black one. The more more was like that black on is growing on me. And i think the jerseys just continue to grow on right. Yeah i mean and dan hor was telling me this too. He was saying he selfishly. Like i think the combat that you were saying you were saying because it's going to be easier for him to identify players. That's the reason why he was saying he was like that one. Because like you know. Like i don't think people think about this but during the game you wanna be able to identify like players and stuff like easier so i always think about that and i just thought that was like a funny little says moore. Funny you say that because they just passed the nfl rule for jersey number change like that allowing players the of single digits and stuff may said they going to that three. Jomar chase tweet. It out said he wants at one. So it's perfect. I was like i growing up. I was a huge college football fan. So like some of my favorite players always has single digits. So when i started watching nfl more. I never really understood why they couldn't have those numbers. Whatever like you know like some of my number like the favorite my favorite number on a on on a person period. I think is like twenty one ori one and one is like that number though like i dunno even in basketball like i was the biggest penny fan. We talked about this before. Whatever like just saying that one or somebody like this is different. Yeah it's a it's a thing is twenty one. That's the number our war but you know our people wards when he won because they had to wear to the. I used the one aware number two but he couldn't and so that just made me think like there's going to be mass corners wearing number two because the only reason the award twenty one is because he couldn't wear too but he will practice into like. If you look at some of the film he was still have a practice jersey. Into but i d like now though he's made a soda twenty one and can't be no slouch corner. Where twenty one right tell you. I feel like somebody. Don't switch to somebody some corner going. Try to switch to to lie is going to be. I don't know what tom brady was signed by. This isn't bengals related. But he was saying that he feels like it's going to be hard to know who to block. Now that they have the single digits out there how do you feel about that. You feel that s a thing or is that just a os school kind of mentality in thinking about the game. Tom brady got a whole different perspective on everything versus anybody else in the national football league because for him to have the formula of success that he has he probably does have some mental reps in his head that maybe other players aren't. I don't think it would matter to me at all but you know for him. He probably got. He probably got different. You know what i'm saying is based off numbers and stuff so he probably like many. I throw me all over right now. So tom brady a whole different animal. Him and peyton manning. they probably have a whole system based on their center. Just based off of people's numbers for you know so he probably mad at the end of the day but he go. he'll he'll overcome. That ain't for him so he probably just saying you know that that that right now in this moment to come november november december eight even going to be thinking about that on another super bowl right. Yeah that's as number one. Zero is going to be live. That as number. One is probably. Yeah we're gonna do some phonetics numbers on that that that chase number one quarter. Look for the bengals. I get because if don't so aware one where to thing. I think to a does where one i think. That's what i'm saying that a lot of people was not a lot of people somebody message me and say you look at the jury's out there he can't wear one they named like three other teams that could draft him and he was like you know he might have been telling y'all gonna get drafted from the bengals by saying he have a the number one so so you think anything on the front natta we got past jerseys. I think we all feel you know the crazy. I'm going to tell you the weirdest thing about it. Because i was there is so much was going on like like i say i haven't been around the world where it was really lit and Because so much was going on. I really did have that much time to like. Take it in. Yes i saw the jerseys guess us some early but then it was like all right. We gotta go here. Okay we gotta go there. And it wasn't really like that you know like beyond the jerseys. Do you think anything else like Was big enough to make you change that you saw. Maybe observed that. Maybe i did. That was significant enough to to build momentum off of or anything that maybe i just thought that it was a dull moment for them to connect with The super fans like you all have that event to make it a big celebration. Was i think something that was dope because they had the new stripes live going with tj. Our original concept that was fire on. You got to check that out but that was a dope kind of thing. I was going to post. Some of i was standing right there. You so you know when. I when you were walking right there i was thinking to myself. I should probably like roper. Okay was live. I think yeah. I thought you were going to vote obama for a second. I thought you were going gonna come in the background like how you see like minded. Don't get kicked out. don't kid that's all i kept saying. It's don't get kicked out bro. Don't get kicked out. You almost made it right now. Facts but yeah that that part of it was dope heroin reactions Seeing the players like it was just a like. I said that's what it at that day. I was like mash it up. If i liked it was supposed to be like a holiday or something like it was hard for me to really focus at work. Because you wanna miss whatever you know like. It was like a van. Groen is like i remember when to odors came out and i. It wasn't like that what they had to do without players even paying their like crazy to have it that good and you know like i said i'm in the moment i'm in the mix so i'm not really catching wind of all of this stuff but i can't tell you this though like like. I said literally bro. I could be like eating somewhere. Somebody is probably people go have so many stories to tell about somebody like a gun kid. I cannot think of his name he said man. I'm trying to start a podcast. That say bro role it right now he was like. I don't have my cameras and stuff like that. I'm like you don't need cameras. Where's your phone. That's do this right now. Like you know. I was lights out there was done. It was like you know what man like. I'm so happy. I'm like i'm like birla. You've gotta take that. And then you know work off of that and i just. I did that all weekend. It was like gas like if you saw me live people would be like i say gas on it like if you catch them. I say gas because my wife always says you gotta take your foot off the pedal. And i'll be like nah. Give me more gas gas so like. I'm just like i was doing alive the reporters. Hey you wanna do. And i'm like yes. Let's do it. Where you want to do is loud. This is the camera. Let's do you know 'cause. I can't be having hesitant bone in my body. And then i'm telling you this stuff about what we're gonna do or whatever like so it's like i think everybody that watches our show and all the people that supporters. Whatever 'cause. I don't know if i what had occurred to do some of these things with this many famous people or whatever i could be like sit back like when i was younger and just like you know what i'm gonna just chilling. You know waited all out. But i feel like oh it to everybody to get some more information which leads me. Some annex point joe burrow. I actually saw him throwing a football at paul brown stadium. Live twenty minutes. No lip nothing. Nothing wrong john. Sharing my witness set right by me say anything. I wanna talk to john. After i saw it and i wonder how and he didn't say anything to me but i wonder did he walk away from it the same way. I feel. i was just like you wouldn't do it. But i didn't see not one limitation to his game. I mean he he was throwing just anybody like the ballboy out there or something like that. But when he walks salary floats. It's not like a football game where you know you know you going out there with your team. It's just like he's floating through the whole thing. He knows what he wants to do. I'm i'm i'm gonna sweet looking down but i could just tell you. He directs everything. He wasn't even really talking. They knew what they had to be. He commanded every single thing. They throw tim fifteenth. Throws like okay. Now we're gonna do fifteen an hour. We do that less okay. Boom boom like all right. Now we're going to the next one like a program. He's just been doing it like all this time or something like that. You know what. I'm saying like me saying on sunday. Clearly wasn't his first time throwing a football like that many times. I could sell that. That was like something regiment because everybody had to people catcher to people getting. Footballs and stuff like that and it was like. They already knew the drill. I'm talking like thirty yard. Fade routes double moves like anything you know like these aren't world-class wide receivers throwing into but any throw that. I could think of that. I would want to see without without him door rollout. He wasn't don't know rollouts he wasn't doing anything where You know. I think probably jeopardize his his current. We have a thing but he was planting. I made a tweet. And i wish i did right away. A road i said. I just saw joe birth or fifty yards off his back foot but i was just trying to say he's launching it like and people were like what do you mean. He's not planting now. He was playing in throwing darts like the whole time but when he went to go throw the somewhat longer passes he has some. And that's the one thing i would want to ask john. I was like did you see 'em plant when he would throw those or whatever but he was just throwing you know with each flicking back in the front line hit dude back like the back of the end zone like i witnessed that on sunday. How many any like four six months removed from the surgery. I do dude is incredible. I mean like. I've always said this. He's like a cyborg. Would a golden arm. He really is like that when he was done. Didn't even say nothing to nobody. I like. I can't see that far. But i could see his mouth close enough to see like it was moving and i hear destroy right off and it was like it didn't even happen. It was like a myth. Like story. I could tell somebody like live on. Orange is the new black parker. It was just like something that he was like. Yeah now go tell the people this you know what i mean like and then you know like it just walks off. Somebody comes in. I think whitney comes back and says i say yeah you just missed. I've missed them that fast. It's just told me he was like. Yeah you missed it through for like twenty minutes and it was just so smooth sweet out of there and then like boom all right now. What do we do next. He just got the shortness with him. And i know. I'm a superfan but you know like i read body language a lot for a living so he's just got this confidence would and there's no secret. He knew that people were there. You know like he knew that we were up there. He could have said you know what i'll wait so everybody leaves put on a show room. Quick let the fan. I don't even think this is what i do at ten thirty. I looked at the clock. I'd say probably does every day at ten fifteen or something like that. I think he said i'm gonna do my thing. Yes i not cut out for a second but we truly appreciate you guys. Washing the orange is the new black podcast in. Of course we're gonna lead you guys with a yes sir. Sqi hello world. What separated off from everybody else yourself to never get too high capable. 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NPR News: 12-30-2020 10AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 5 months ago

NPR News: 12-30-2020 10AM ET

"Live from npr news. I'm nora raum. The senate will not consider a standalone. Bill passed by the house to increase pandemic relief checks from six hundred dollars to two thousand but senate majority leader mitch. Mcconnell says he might allow consideration if bill also addresses other objections to the pandemic relief package raised by president trump stocks opened higher this morning as six hundred dollars pandemic relief payments began going out. Npr's scott horsely reports. The dow jones industrial average rose more than one hundred fifty points in early. Trading stocks were mostly higher overnight in europe and asia london's footsie index rose as authorities in the uk. Granted the first emergency green light for covert nineteen vaccine developed by oxford university and the pharmaceutical company astrazeneca stocks in the us slumped on tuesday after a push to boost pandemic relief payments. To two thousand dollars. Hit a roadblock the senate. Gop senate leader mitch. Mcconnell has tried to saddle the larger payments with other provisions that have less support among senate democrats boeing shares gained altitude early yesterday but ended the day. Flat the jet maker seven thirty seven. Max plane flew commercial passengers for the first time tuesday after being grounded for more than a year and a half scott horsely news. Washington forty-one-year-old congressman elect to loop let low Louisiana has died of covid nineteen just days before it was scheduled to be sworn in washington from member station w. r. k. f. Paul brown has more let low or republican. I announced he had tested positive for covid. Nineteen on december. Eighteenth less than two weeks after winning his congressional seat in a runoff election. One day announcing his diagnosis let low was admitted to a regional hospital in monroe louisiana. He was later transferred to auch. Lsu health intrigued port for more advanced care. He died there tuesday. The forty one year old is survived by his wife and two young children let low began his career in politics. Working for former louisiana governor. Bobby gentle he won the december fifth runoff in louisiana and was set to take office in january for npr news. I'm paul braun inbound rouge after a marathon session. Argentina approved a law early. This morning to legalize elective abortion becoming the first major latin american country to do so. Npr's phillip leaves has more until now abortions only been permitted in cases of rape or where the mothers the mothers life was seriously at risk. This new law makes abortion legal in the first fourteen weeks. Supporters of it say tens of thousands of argentine. Women goes a hospitalized each year because of unsafe underground abortions that more than three thousand women have died in the last few decades because this. They hope that this will do a lot to help end. That npr's philip greaves stock. Prices continue to climb. The dow is now up one hundred sixty points. The snp is up sixteen. This is npr news in yemen. Explosion struck the airport in the southern city of aden today. Shortly after a plane carrying the newly formed cabinet landed officials say at least thirteen. People were killed dozens. More were wounded. No group has claimed responsibility. According to newly released clinical trial data one of china's leading covid nineteen vaccine. Candidates has a nearly eighty percent protection rate against the disease. Npr's john ruiz reports the vaccine is being developed by an affiliate of china's biggest state owned pharmaceutical company sino-pharm. The company reported some results of its phase. Three clinical trials they show. The vaccine demonstrated efficacy rate of seventy nine point. Three four percent against the disease. That's about fifteen percentage points lower than the rates reported for the pfizer biontech and moderna. Vaccines both have been approved for emergency. Use inner being administered in the us. The chinese company says it is applied for conditional approval of its vaccine during the summer china gave emergency use approval for some vaccine still under development. Hundreds of thousands of people have already received inoculations. The government has pledged to make any vaccine developed in china a global public. Good john rich. Npr news britain today authorized the emergency use of the covid vaccine developed by oxford university and astra zeneca. It's the first country to do. So officials say britain has bought one hundred million doses and we'll start distributing next week. This vaccine can be stored in regular refrigerators and doesn't need the altar. Hold temperatures some other vaccines require. I'm nora romm npr news.

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NPR News: 03-22-2020 9PM ET

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04:39 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 03-22-2020 9PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Janine herbst. President trump is activating the national guard in New York California and Washington state in response to the growing corona virus outbreak as NPR's Bobby Yellen reports. It's the latest White House response to the states. Hardest hit by the fast spreading. Virus TRUMP SAYS. The National Guard will assist with things like building mobile medical facilities and other missions to help combat the corona virus. This actually will give them. Maximum flexibility to use the guard against the virus without having to worry about cost reliability and freeing up state resources to protect the health and safety of the people in their state. Trump says he is also sending wartime navy. Medical ships two harbors in Los Angeles and New York to ease the burden of local hospitals. State leaders say they are desperate for medical supplies. Like masks gowns and gloves saying competition among the states for a dwindling supply is driving up prices Bobby Allen. Npr News Washington on Capitol Hill Procedural vote on a corona virus economic relief. Bill failed tonight. Preventing it from advancing in the Senate but lawmakers say negotiations continue the procedural vote which required sixty votes to pass. Just got forty seven. This amid fierce partisan clashes Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer called it a corporate bailout. Democrats want more help for healthcare workers and others affected by the disease outbreak saying the Republican measure concentrated too much on helping companies. The spill is said to be about a trillion dollars. Several states have issued. Stay at home order to try to halt the spread of the virus including Ohio. New York California and Louisiana Paul Brown with member station W. R. K. F. has more. The order does not take effect until Monday evening but governor John Bel Edwards urged everyone who was able to self isolate now is. We're in a race against time when it comes to this corona vars and its rapid spread in Louisiana. The we have ten times as many cases as it did a week ago and a growth rate faster than any state or country in the world on Friday Edwards warned that states healthcare system could be overwhelmed before the end of the month without Federal Intervention. Under the order. Louisiana's are instructed to stay home except for essential tasks like buying groceries and picking up prescriptions for NPR news. I'm Paul Brown in Baton Rouge all. Germany is bar groups of more than two people from gathering chancellor. Angela Merkel has gone into isolation because her doctor tested positive for corona virus. Npr's Rob Schmitz has more Chancellor Merkel who has won praise for calm and transparency through. This crisis said she would isolate herself at home immediately after learning that a doctor who vaccinated her against pneumonia Friday was infected. The news of recording teen came soon after government imposed new social distancing rules that limit public gatherings to to people not including families. Npr's Rob Schmitz. Asian markets are lower. Right now the Asia out on two point four percent the Nikkei Japan up a fraction this is npr the UK is telling people with serious health problems to self quarantine for the next twelve weeks. The government says it plans to notify some one and a half million people who are at high risk for the corona virus complications including respiratory conditions. And those who are immuno compromise that they should leave their homes for the next three months but to support that effort officials grocery stores and pharmacists together with military and emergency services personnel will deliver free medicine and food to their houses a British sports announcer. Who has no matches to call because of the virus has posted play by plays of ordinary life on twitter? And here's Frank. Langfitt reports on the latest Internet humor from London. Nikki is turned his skills to everything from shopping to crossing the street posting short videos on twitter here. He describes two dogs racing around the London Park Vanilla chocolate in hot pursuit. And it's been some lovely footlocker there. It is again from donor. That's excellent the Spaniel now out in front not confused. I had out of it and a man looking through racks at a second hand store. You join me live on a popular high street. Discount CLOTHING STORE. This shop hoping to get a personal best in the fashion bogging steeplechase videos of earned an additional thirty thousand twitter followers. And maybe some work when this crisis subsides Frank Langfitt. Npr News London. Us futures contracts are trading lower at this all our three major indices down more than four percent. Asian markets are trading. Mixed the Asiad on two point four percent. The Nikkei in Japan is up but just a fraction on Jeanine herbst and you're listening to NPR news from Washington.

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4-8-21 - Mo Egger With Elizabeth Blackburn

Mo Egger

15:57 min | 2 months ago

4-8-21 - Mo Egger With Elizabeth Blackburn

"Ready for some football we are. This is dave laptop and you're listening to the home of the bengals. Espn fifteen third see. He'll be he'll be in the ring of honor one day lap. At least if i will get one vote. So yes he'll be in the ring of honor one they listen to me. Lap will be in the ring of honor. How you doing. I'm all over this is. Espn thirty thank you so much for listening Glad you're here. Bengals announced today something we have discussed for. God knows how many different segments on this show over the years. They're they're starting. They're launching a ring of honor. And as you might expect. Anthony munoz is going to be in the inaugural class and we'll chat with the greatest bengal of all time in one hour. He will go. In with paul brown and there will be two spots up for grabs subject to a vote of season ticket holders and suite holders. Later this spring this will be a recurring event bengals announcing it today. The video they produced which is extraordinarily well done is on my website at espn fifteen thirty dot com slash mo a driving force behind what we've seen this team do over the last couple of months. Which is they've shown a willingness to be more engaging with fans. The social media counted the cincinnati. Bengals has been great. they're getting new uniforms. There is a genuine effort to. I think extend an olive branch to the public. And i think. I think there's a lot of fans who feel engaged and energized and you know look obviously the draft yields players that put a better product on the field and surround joe burrow with what he needs. But i genuinely do think it's. It's kind of a fun. Time to be a bengals fan in the ring of honor kind of goes hand in hand with that person who has helped drive a lot of this is the director of strategy and engagement. she's been profiled in the athletic. We tried with paul. Dander junior about that. And this is our first chance to chat with elizabeth blackburn on a big day for her and the franchise. I know you've been busy. I appreciate the time this afternoon. How are you angry. I appreciate you coming on. This is this is a big deal. And i look. I know you kinda gauge the of a fan base. This has been one of those things longtime fans at least for years. Said look do something hall of fame ring of honor retired jersey numbers bring back former players this big day. I think you grasp how big of a day this is for a lot of longtime bengals fans absolutely. And i'm just so excited to get to be here and hear from you and hear from fans to be it. Walk us through. The process guided through everything that got us to the point that we got today where the announcement was made. So i can walk through the process at that. I've been part of since. I joined the team last february. Twenty twenty and Right when i came back. I had i started having conversations internally with folks all over the organization just understand what we explored in the past why we are where we are and and how we can best move forward and fan engagement is why i have engagement in my in. My job. title is critical and So really the ring of honor has been into making certainly debated considered talked about before i was here and then It's been kind of on the agenda since i got back And it's it was. There were a lot of discussions about why they haven't done it. And and how we could do it and in a way that we felt good about until it's been really exciting to see all of this the process from idealization to you know what's going to make it enough and then working with our content team and talking about the archives talking about the content plan. That's going to be critical with this as well as working with stadium operations doing stadium walks testing a lot of people that know what's going to look good and It's been a really fun thing to get to be part of and work on for the last year. And i'm so excited that we get to announce it and confirm it today and keep talking about it all summer and ultimately unveil it in the fall and you know have the fans they'll alumni legend there to take it in. You'll have a four person inaugural class. And i want to talk about. What's what's next and determining who the next to our with your great grandfather and with with anthony munoz but one of my fears was you and i could sit down and i bet you. We can come up with a list of forty fifty people that would be deserving of at least consideration for a ring of honor and one of the things i was fearful of was. They're gonna do this one day and then just have this huge ring of honor class and that's it and then we'll revisit this and ten years after players retire. I'm relieved that that's not going to be the case. I liked the fact. This is going to be recurring. I liked the fact that every year. We'll have people to vote on players to talk about her coaches to debate their merits. How did you decide on the size of the inaugural class and ultimately how this is going to unfold in future years well no. I'm really glad to hear that You've shared our perspective about this. Not being one and done thing and this really living on and living on in a significant way so we debated the right size in and ultimately just found that four. It has a nice ring to it at first four and if only a balance Carrying weight but not overcrowding the inaugural laugh because if fact and really. It's wiser announcing anthony and paul brown's now by themselves really let it breathe will and We're really excited and want you to years in duffy's to get there do and get their celebration as well. So we that you know four really strike that balance for the first year and are excited for this to continue in the future guide me through the process of determining determining who is going to be eligible for one of those other two spots and then ultimately how those two spots who gets them is going to be determined got it. Yep so intern does first determining who will be eligible for the vote. It really was a multi factor analysis and discussion. We took criteria for all the players. Do have to be retired. Players summering of honor have specific amounts of times dedicated to that. We we just are saying they need to be retired. Claire retired players and So we put joe berlin already. They're exactly but The to players retired then the other backers that we evaluated in terms of who will be on the initial valid and really are our criteria was to create a ballot that the organization unanimously. Good about all these all the players we would deport being in the ring of honor and we considered global all time first team all pro team records Kind of their their career with the bengals their impact in the community was as well as the first fifty. Vote during our fiftieth anniversary. And all talked about this in a second site we. We are doing the vote. In the spring and opening that up for season ticket members in suite holders we are factoring in san sentiments. Because we just recently took a fan as well media. Go to celebrate our fiftieth anniversary and those were looked at as well in determining the ballot. So we went through a process to establish a unanimous salad that organizations excited about and once we unveil and announced that ballot season-ticket members and suite holders. We'll get to vote and their vote. That tally will pick the next two to round out our inaugural the voting is a mentally engaging and hopefully our. He didn't take it members in suite. Holders enjoy that that process in having a say in the vote. Earn the inaugural class also. Their vote is tied to their ten years to really tip our cap. To the loyal many many many loyal season ticket members in suite holders who've been with us since the beginning or since a very long time and so your vote will count or your tenure with with the bengals and we hope. That's kind of fun element to the vote as well. This will all culminate this year in a ring of honor a designated ring of honor game and obviously schedules not out yet. So you can't speak to the specifics but but can you sort of take me through what that looks like when the date has been chosen and my understanding. It's a halftime ceremony. What does the ring of honor ceremony look and feel like honestly. We're still working through it. As we understand fully what the the season in gains are going to look like this fall. But i'll just say you know. The organization is really bullish and optimistic about games. The game day environment this fall and the ring of honor games is mentioned. Be a celebration of greatness and ideally. They're you know we're hoping to have additional programming. So the round the game on the weekend as an alumni you know ring of honor but broader alumni reunion. We've we really want it to be Meaningful opportunity to connect with our alumni players to connect with our fans season ticket holders and we had great success around the fiftieth anniversary I'm not sure if you or anybody listening had the opportunity to go to any of the programming. We did tied into our fiftieth but We had a lot of success with that. And i think are hoping to take some of the best elements from that university and build on it for a ring of honor game this wall. You say well i spent. I spent that entire summer ranking my own top fifty. You kidding me. I kept me up at night. You know what. I liked about what you guys did with that. Don't all seriousness was. You had the first fifty but then invited to some of the ceremonies were were players outside of the top fifty and those those guys are are kind of the backbone of franchise and it was called that those guys had a chance to be to be a part of it. Let me ask you this. I'm going to put you on the spot a little bit. Here i don't want you to show any favoritism but you know you've you've grown up with this franchise right so you have your favorites. Who is the one player that when they go into the ring of honor it may be years from now can be an active guy. They go into the ring of honor for you is going to be most meaningful. I'm gonna be honest with you mayo in it. it's chad. I'm have like twelve chad. Johnson shadow to like i. I would be lying if i tried to beat around the question. It would be chad boomer older than you. That's like my hero of my youth service. Dancer though would be your. What would be your sisters. That and i'm giving you love. We have so many amazing like alumni legend players. It's it's amazing another one. Because paul brown's go in right now. I if i ask my family members to tell me about my great grandfather. They're like he fixed air conditioners and he drank scotch. When you ask about paul brown. What stories are told. Oh man mostly i. There are so many so many. it's amazing It's a mix of stories from matthew lynn and stories from stories from you know his transition between the browns. And then coming in and starting the bengals with my grandpa great uncle There are just there are so many and i Unfortunately i never got to meet him. So that's that's i just really enjoy hearing stories and learning about him. He's an amazing amazing successful impresses individual. It drives me nuts. There is a george halas trophy. A lamar hunt trophy vince. Lombardi trophy all of all deservedly. So the league doesn't do anything for paul brown so after you get this done you gotta start banging roger goodell's for me and get that changed. Okay nice to do. i have one more. I've i've one more question. I have enjoyed talking to you this is. I've wanted to do this for a couple of weeks. Now so my my guy at the athletic paul deandre jenner wrote about you and some of the efforts that you're sort of in charge of here with the bengals and they're great but i was a little concerned where you you're quoted as saying that you're very in touch with bengals twitter and as a twitter user. I have to ask how in touch are you. I don't really know how to entertain basically have any of my tweet shown up on your radar great good. That's that's nice. That's what i was getting into here not to answer i was hoping for. You're doing a great job seriously as a lifelong fan as someone who i've spent so much time saying they've gotta do a ring of honor. They've got a. They've got to do a better job of engaging and being involved in fan. Outreach i could tell from people who care about this franchise what you're doing is resonating and it matters. It matters to a lot of people so congrats on getting this done. But don't call us again. Don't be a stranger. I love talking about this kind of stuff. You have such a unique perspective. And i really do think it's a fun time to be a bengals fan and i hope you feel the love from people who are really appreciative of this in particular with the ring of honor. So thanks so much. That really kind of thing so much for having me on john young to try thank you. Elizabeth blackburn is the bengals director of strategy and engagement. Anthony munoz will be on this show coming up at five taryn we need elizabeth blackburn on the show. More often anthony munoz will be on the show at five. Oh five phone calls are head. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station.

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4/8/21 - The Mo Egger Show

Mo Egger

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4/8/21 - The Mo Egger Show

"The cincinnati bengals employees. Espn fifteen afternoon high you doing. My name's mo agar. This is espn fifteen thirty. So glad you're here. Hope you're having a great thursday good thursday a great thursday or loaded today a ton of stuff to get to reds. Don't play tonight. Which kinda stinks. They've obviously been killing in. We do have some baseball stuff to get to a chant. Brenda's going to be on this show. Normally chad is with us during football and basketball season but the basketball season has not really ended. And i'm not really sure when it's going to. We still don't know if we at one point there's going to be a resolution to the john brennan situation but we don't know when and we don't know what that resolution may look like. So chad fills us in on. What's going on. And maybe gives us an idea of what he thinks is next coming up in just about forty minutes i today. I crossed something off a list. That i've wanted to cross off a list for a very long time. You know in this business there are times they you come to work and there's not a lot going on. There are certain lulls in the sports calendar. Where there's just there's not a lot happening and then you have an extreme example a year ago at this time when there were no sports at all. And you know. Sometimes you pull some some topics off the shelf. That are all reliable right. One of those has. Since i started my on air career one of those topics that you could pull off. The shelf has been. Why don't the bengals have a ring of honor. Should they have a ring of honor. If they did have a ring of honor what would it look like. Who would be in it. Who would be in your ring of honor. Well some of those questions still persist but the one that triggers. It is no longer a question. And now i have to cross off my list of goto tried and true slows sports topics. I've gotta cross off. Why don't the bengals have a ring of honor. Because this morning they announced they're going to have one this year. Here's the bengals executive vice president speaking this morning katie blackburn. The ring of honor represents excellence innovation and the best of the best. This exclusive group will include former players coaches and individuals who played a significant role in our franchises. Four people will make up the inaugural class and we are here to celebrate the first two inductees pro football hall of famers. All ground and anthony munoz could not have asked for better representatives of our team our city and the sport of football with that. I'm happy to answer any of your questions. So i misspoke that wasn't katie blackburn. That's elizabeth blackburn. Who's going to be on this show at four zero five. Don't tell her that. I miss identified her as her mom nonetheless. That's elizabeth blackburn. Who's really been the face and the voice and the energy behind a lot of the stuff. The bengals have done this offseason that we have not had elizabeth on this show yet. So i'm excited. The bengals are having a ring of honor and yes is it overdue. Sure yes. I don't know how you can focus on that. They're they're doing it. They're gonna put paul brown in. They're gonna put anthony munoz in and then they will announce the two people joining those figures in the inaugural class. They'll be a dedicated ring of honor home game later this year. There will be a halftime ceremony. The other two people that go in will be voted on by season ticket members and suite holders. The ballot that they'll choose from is going to be released in may so the inaugural class is going to be four. People deep number doesn't necessarily have to be players. Paul brown obviously was not a bengals player. Although kind of a no brainer and anthony munoz sort of the same. But they're doing they're doing it and good for them and more importantly good for us because now is the fun part. And if you've been on social media at all today if you've listened to if you listened to cincy three sixty i know lance is gonna do basically three hours on this tonight. You've heard and participated in and watched unfold. Some fun debates. You know what's fun to talk about. Who should be in the hall of fame or who should be in a ring of honor or who should have their jersey number. Those are fun discussions. To have we do it with the reds. Do it with every major sport in the hall of fame. We're going to do it with the bengals with the bengals and there's there's gonna be some substance to it because they're actually going to honor their former players now. I understand that you will find fans of every team who don't care about things like this and that's that's okay. There's there's no one way to consume a teams product. But the reality is there are a lot of fans for whom this kind of stuff is important for whom this kind of stuff is a big deal and for whom. This kind of stuff is fun. There are going to be fun debates by the way people are talking about the cincinnati bengals today. Nobody has mentioning the fact that they had five consecutive losing seasons. Nobody today is focusing on what the team hasn't been able to do in the playoffs. Nobody is focusing on anything other than great players. In the franchise's history. Hi moments in the franchise's history and which bengals figures are among the best of the best who should be celebrated and will be celebrated and to a large degree. People are talking about how the cincinnati bengals finally in touch with its public. And yes this is a franchise. I have criticized in the past for being tone deaf. And yes things like this are way way way overdue and yes. I certainly wish i hadn't spent the majority of the last whatever it's thirteen fourteen years screaming and yelling that the bengals hall of fame have ring of honor should do something anything for their former players but you know what they are and now the fun part begins who should go in that inaugural class with anthony moon ios and paul brown for me. The answer to that question is pretty simple but this is again one of those funds sports discussions in which there is no real wrong. Answer here it. if it's me. And i i will vote. I think you've gotta do. Ken riley anderson now if it ends up being chad johnson great jerry. Johnson's a bengals ring of honor player. He he's been that good. He's that significant. He's one of the most significant players to ever wear orange and black but for me. There's there's two things number one that ken riley induction is overdue. He unfortunately is not going to be around for it because he passed away last year. But ken riley is also along with ken anderson. I think the two guys who i think you would say are closest to being pro football hall of famers i if you're gonna make a compelling this guy should be in the the pro football hall of fame in canton case. I think the ones you make those most for our ken. Riley and ken anderson. anthony is. He is in canton. Paul brown to a large degree is a no brainer. I might have said. Look his name on the stadium. Let's expand the class. Or let's us paul spot for somebody else. But it's paul brown. He founded football in cincinnati. He's one of the most significant figures in the history of the nfl. It is a travesty that there is no paul brown trophy like there is the george halas trophy. The vince lombardi trophy. So yes paul brown but for me. I'm talking about the greatest quarterback in the history the franchise and that is kenny anderson who has hall of fame bona fides. He's not in but he's got hall of fame bona fides. He has one of the best cases. And if it's not can anderson then it's can riley who should have been given his moment fourteen years with the franchise. He's one of the best players in the history. Not just of the bengals. But he's one of the most accomplished defensive backs ever. I wanna put ken riley. And i want to put kenny anderson. And i defer to players ken anderson is old or going anywhere. He's still very active. His foundation is very active. We had him on the show. Maybe two months ago. Love kenny anderson. But i do think there's something to let's take care of these guys while we're here and take some guys who are going to be here for a while like chad and like boomer and like many many others and they'll get their day now if the voting gives is different results. That's okay too. Nobody's going to argue. That ken riley shouldn't be in the ring of honor he unfortunately after his passing just have to wait another year. Same for ken anderson. But this i said when it looks like there was the really distinct chance that the bengals were going to do this. Not necessarily a fear but i said look. Let's let's make sure this is done right. Let's not just take twenty five guys. Put him in nevada. And we're done wipe our hands. Let's make this a recurring thing. I don't know if it's going to be every year. I don't know if it's going to be every other year. I don't know if it's gonna occur. Regularly scheduled interviews. I dunno intervals. I should say. I don't know if there's going to be every year. At least four people have to go in every year. One person's going to go in but just don't do it all in masks just don't take thirty dudes and say they're in the ring of honor. Don't do it like that. Give everybody that's gonna give them their moment. Give them their year. Let's not crowd everybody. Let's give every guys story a chance to be told. If it's me i'm going riley anderson on top of the first two. I do think very very soon. You got to put in dave lapham. I obviously think boomer esiason clearly think. Somebody like chad johnson. There are numbers of others. It's got to be exclusive. We're not just gonna take anybody who's had a one thousand yard rushing season or a double digit sack year. There's obviously going to be some players who hit retirement here soon. Who are going to be in the conversation as bengals ring of honor members but those are discussions we can have from now on and it's meaningful and there's some substance to it because instead of us having discussions about an imaginary ring of honor or a mythical ring of honor or a ring of honor done on some website or in some bars somewhere. The bengals are going to do it. And they're gonna make fans part of it and they're gonna bring those players back and they'll be celebrated not there at the game and their story will be told and that's really important this franchise historically has shied away from telling its most significant members stories. And that's why i think there is. There's a couple of generations of bengals fans who enlists they seek knowledge of the bengals in their history. And look. we're not exactly talking about the green bay packers here. I do understand that. We're not we're not talking about an nfl franchise that has storied compared to many others in the national football league. But they've been around for more than fifty years and they've had guys who have created moments that have resonated in people's lives for the duration of those lives including mine. So but i think to a degree. The bengals reluctance to this point to help tell those stories has created. Jenner has helped cultivate generations of fans. Who don't know as much about this franchise's history as you might if they were better at telling the story of her all time greats and this is a step in the right direction so now the fun part begins who should go in simple question. We could do this now. I've been. I've been waiting for fourteen years to do this. Who goes in with paul brown. Anthony munoz five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty. It's gotta be the two cans. As far as i'm concerned. But i gotta be honest with you. You wanna tell me what you be someone else. Let's let's out the discussion seriously. We could finally have the discussion this discussion. I've waited four. I started on the air may of two thousand seven. I never thought i'd be able to actually have this talk. We can it matters. There is a question that. I've asked on twitter that i want to get to at mo- agra fifteen thirty. It applies to this but the good news by the way the video. The bengals did announcing the ring of honor is on my blog. You can read the official press release from the bengals. How the ring of honor is going to go down what the process is going to be. It's there's a quote from brown. There's a quote from katie blackburn on my blog. Espn fifteen thirty dot com slash mo. Anthony munoz is gonna join us at five. Oh five elizabeth blackburn is gonna join us at four zero five. I'm looking forward to that. Reds or off getting set to play the diamondbacks and the first road game of the season for cincinnati. Tomorrow we'll spend some time on that coming up in just a couple of minutes. It's nineteen minutes after three. This is espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. And it's free this is espn fifteen thirty egger. You can follow me on twitter at mo- allegra fifteen thirty. Do i have a question about the bengals. Ring of honor open ended questions on twitter. Check that out and get to the rats coming up here in just a bit. Cincinnati is off tonight first road game of the season tomorrow night. Reds opened up at three game set against the diamondbacks obviously reds coming off. A great season opening homestand. That finished up with yesterday's eleven to four win over the pittsburgh pirates by the way. Was it really a thing where people really mad at a mirror gera because he was taunting the pirates after giving up a grand slam in a game that the reds won by seven runs. Life is really damn good. If that's your biggest complaint right now. I'd like to see a mere throw the ball better. Two outings have been rocky to say the least. But i i kind of defer to him and is a track record. There's there's my don't even terry. Every team gets an all star. But if you had to make a bold prediction which is a thing people do before opening day mine was that amir garrett makes the all star team. I still think that's going to happen. Despite his era of over twenty two pat you're on. Espn fifteen thirty. how are you mark. I am giddy a level. That i never thought i could achieve hearing something as simple as a ring of honor for the i mean just suffering has gone on for so long with just the simplest of gestures to incorporate community in that stadium which qassam looks like a parking garage and the great paul brown. The father of modern. Footballs great granddaughter. Who seems to be the driving force behind this. And i think that you look at people talk about coaching trees. Well let's see. Paul brown's got one of the most awesome. Because if you think about the seventies a guy named chuck noll who played for him. At cleveland and the eighties. Bill walsh coached underneath them. And that's i was mad at the bengals for about five years when he didn't hire bill and coke but you know i had to get over that because then they hired one of my favorite players ever forced greg right and this is the thing that was cool about forrest. Gregg was i worked for him one summer because we landscaped his house and he was going on a flight to california and he was gonna go look at a kid from southern california name. Anthony moon ios. And i said well you know the only time i've ever seen in play was when he single handedly destroyed the left side of Ohio state defensive line in the rose bowl and i said when he's really powerfully. he's monster. When i came back i was just out of my mind reports. How was it. You said he stuck his arm out. Knocked me down you. Same of lemon in his own right. Yes yeah. And i mean and and that got. That was the the love affair with the bengals going to the stadium and we have season tickets at the very top of the stadium. 'cause that's the only place we get seven but and then it just kind of eroded because the sad days and in my children's life mo- they've never seen the bengals won a playoff game and they've been down there for some of the wild ones and they've been down here for some of the bad ones too but i- older daughters both love the bengals bhutan. He became a patriot fan inexplicably and well. That's his choice. Because you know the guy that back in the spring of guy but now the conversation with red as well as bengals positive and i mean in and grabs a community and it just makes it the the excitement of being that stadium when the bengals were relevant and something as simple as a young lady convincing her grandfather and her mom. Let's do this. Let's be more active on twitter. Let's step into the modern era it's just astounding and it's it's it's all about the other day it's all about fan engagement. If you come off as in touch with your fans that can go a long way and that has been even when the bengals have put good products on the field. It is felt like that that fans have been held at arms length right that they haven't been totally in touch with what people want. And i've never met elizabeth. I'm looking forward to chatting with here with her. Hearing about thirty five minutes. She seems to get it. She seems to understand. Look we as an organization to do a better job of fan outreach. And and by the way the clue phone should have gone off when they look at their attendance totals last year but of out liar because of covid but i mean this is a franchise that has had a hard time even in some really good years selling games out in recent seasons obviously there have been tens of thousands of seats that have gone on sold and yes winning takes care of a lot of that but in a day and age where people have more more choices in a day and age where people can consume your product in a modern comfortable way. It's unparalleled to anything we've ever had and not pay for it in person. There is something about extending olive branches to your fan base to your public and it feels like she and by extension that that franchise really do seem to understand that. And i honestly think that what you're saying by having things like twitter people that don't necessarily want to go to a game but they they're engaged with the team. They're going to buy shirts. They're gonna buy hats or go buy jerseys. And they're to be part of that community that is the the community of bengal fans and so many of us have had our you know they turn their backs on us. You're dying for a product that makes you happy and excited you go down there and you get disappointed pretty soon. It's just heartburn and heartache and you don't wanna be a part of it and now this is a step in right direction by what. I consider a brilliant young lady who she's going to be part of the operation of that team for how long because you think for any reason browns are going gonna let go of it no. I don't think i don't think they will. I think i think the brown family ownership will outlive both of us. Pat thank you so much thank you. I appreciate the phone call. Look that's a fair point. Elizabeth blackburn is going to be somebody that we are talking about and hearing from and hopefully here talking to for for quite a wattle. That's for better for worse. They are a family run franchise but you know again i. There's there's something that that just makes people feel good. When feels like their voice matters the end of the day. It sounds really stupid but sports supposed to make people feel good. It does make people feel good when it feels like their voices being heard when it feels like they have a say in what's going on nostalgia does make people feel good you you don't you don't have to make your franchise be all about the past in order to give proper respect to it. I hear that sometimes with the reds well see all they do is care about these old players and you know it just it takes away from what the product is on the field and i go wait a minute and then you're supposed to do both the saint louis cardinals do both the st louis cardinals go to a cardinals opening day. It ain't like cincinnati but they bring back ozzie. smith and they bring back in recent years. They've brought back lou brock. Who passed away. Bob gibson who recently passed away and they bring back some of their legends and they're also really good on the field. You can do both and yes. We're only going to really be able to enjoy this to its maximum capabilities of what we see on the field matches what the team starts to do in terms of fan outrage. And they're not where they need to be at but it is a significant step in what they are doing matters to a lot of people twenty nine minutes away from four o'clock five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty and eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six and malaga. Fifteen thirty is how you can hit me up on twitter. Speaking of putting pressure on front offices or something else. I'd like to see tell you what is next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station. Bengals are getting a ring of honor. The sports updates a service of kelsey chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection and a guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life. Kelsey chef dot com bengals announced the formation of a ring of honor to recognize former players coaches and individuals who have played a significant role in the franchise's history. It's going to be displayed on the east facade inside. Paul brown stadium and live on bengals digital channels for people will be inducted in the inaugural class with a halftime. Excuse me halftime ceremony. During a bengals home game this year so four will go in to have been decided to will be voted on by season ticket holders and sweet ticket holders one of the two who going in or who has been announced to go in with the inaugural class along with paul. Brown is the great anthony munoz again excitement in just the memory of being teammates. Sure you only gonna have a certain number of guys to be there. But from what i understand. It's going to be a celebration for all guys. Which i think is cool. Not just the guy's going in the ring of honor. But like the teammates. And i think you know i think that's going to be exciting to be part of that celebration because quite frankly i'm going in maybe the guy that played next to me is not going in but he's very important me. Getting involved getting inducted in this ring of honor because you know it was a very important part of my career and all the other guys i played with so i i really believe it's going to be excited for guys going and guys at might not go in the greatest bengal of all time joins us at five. Oh five off. Day for the reds there in arizona. Tomorrow first road trip of the season starts with three against the diamondbacks tyler. Molly against righty taylor. Widener nine thirty five tomorrow night. Seven hundred wwl. W cincinnati hits the road after five consecutive wins to close out a season opening six game homestand masters underway round one. Jim herman carded four over. Seventy six. xavier's jackson coke was to overthrew ten. Brian harman hideaki matsuyama tied atop the leaderboard. Three under twenty one away from four o'clock your phone calls in the ring of honor are still ahead. Elizabeth blackburn is going to be on this show in just about twenty five minutes. I have not had her on. I am terrified by the fact that she says she's really in tune really in touch with bengals twitter and i don't know that i consider myself part of bengals twitter because there are some die. Hard folks bengals twitter. And that's all they tweet about. And god love him for it but on game day. Yeah i contribute. And i'm just wondering when she says she's in touch with bengals twitter how in touch and we'll talk about the formation of the team's ring of honor. Meanwhile we're in a holding pattern this this thing that you see no resolution. Today john brandon is still suspended. There's no interim coach. We don't know what's going to happen. We talk with chad brendel at the beginning of the week or closing in on the end of the week. We'll get chad's thoughts on if we're any closer to a resolution and maybe how this is playing out among other coaches at the university of cincinnati. Lots to get to chad. We'll have that conversation next on. Espn fifteen thirty cm from four. This is espn fifteen thirty on today. The eighth april eighth We we still have seen no smoke coming out of lindor centre. Although today's visibility isn't great. So from where i set maybe there is some smoke but this thing this ordeal with the ucla basketball situation which is compelling to a degree fatiguing to a degree and frankly not helpful to anybody involved just continues to drag on and so i i kinda wanted to get an chanson. Jeb rentals website bearcat journal dot com and usually in this spot during football and basketball season. But let's face it. The the basketball season has not yet ended at uc and frankly may never will. I don't know so. I wanted to bring jed on to talk about the latest if there is anything that you could qualify as the latest. It's good to have you as always what's going on. Oh you know. I was explaining terron. I'm about to enter Gad husband heaven here over the next five days really yeah the wife and daughter going out of town for five days leaving me here with the dogs there is there is. There is something special about that. I've been the beneficiary of that. There is something special about. Yeah i mean you know we. We've we've been locked up pretty much for the past year. Plus and now i get five days all to myself and i'm you know what's going to happen as something's going to happen like tomorrow and i'm gonna be stuck at my desk for the next five days. Well all right so from my standpoint. There's good and bad to that. Because i just want this over. I just want to end. I just want this. I just want this over are is there. Is there anything. That would suggest that. I'm gonna get that. Many of us are going to get what we want anytime soon. I mean it's so hard to tell but a- to my knowledge the independent fact finders were still talking to players and interviewing people as recently as yesterday. That doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that they're close to wrapping this thing up so i don't. I wish i had an answer. The didn't make me want to run my head into a wall. But unfortunately i wonder run. I hadn't wall it doesn't make any sense. Mo- here's my thing. But like look i get that there's a process and if you're going to fire john brennan for caused and you have to go through a certain portion of this process but shouldn't this have been considered when when deciding a plan of action. Like how long might this take. We might not have basketball coach until may well. That's a red flag and we should probably maybe reconsider our position. Actually i mean it. Just every day puts more strain on the health of the bath. The long term health of the basketball program. And i can't believe it you know we're in this situation where we're going through this again it. It's it's mind numbing that that the university continues to put its bell cal and say what you want. Somebody goes to the football programs that this to over this past week. Look football has been good at the university of cincinnati for like fifteen years total. This is basketball school. They school where the tradition and the history in athletics is directly tied to basketball and this is a fan base that was cultivated over sixty seventy years rooting for the basketball program. How this continues to happen to the basketball program. I can't remotely fathom. And it's it's frustrating and i it's it's it's maddening when when all of this started right after the season one players hit the portal. There was a thought that. I think that a lot of people had that. Okay well perhaps the school can step in and keep those guys from transferring and if that means you get rid of the coach than those players are worth keeping you. Get rid of the coach fine. That was almost three weeks ago. If if you're going to do something in an effort to keeping in an effort to keep those guys from transferring how much longer those guys gonna wait at some point. They're not gonna wait for you to finish your fact finding to finish your investigation to finish raising money. If you've got to buy the guy out like if that was the purpose of the purpose was we don't want these guys transfer and so we're going to examine how our program is being run. That's got to be done in a short amount of time or else it's a waste of effort because those guys aren't gonna stick around either way. Yeah yeah i mean. If you're you know mason manson's being recruited by new mexico can nathan madsen. Just call rick pitino every day like patina reporter. Richard pitino sorry is like hey we want you to come and mesa manson's like you know the patients coach like i'm gonna need you to have some patience. Which is the message that has been delivered to the players that are that are in the portal where we need to have patience. So so richard patino. I know you have a spot on your roster That you would like me to take. But i you know i'm gonna need you to have some patience. And then richard patino hangs up the phone and goes. I'm going to call one of these seven hundred other kids in the puerto that are that are like mesa manson until that spot you know continuing what i would say is continuing to ask those guys for patients and to wait is almost malpractice to the kids. Because they're gonna lose out on potential opportunities and they're gonna lose out on situations that might be a great fit for them if they continue to wait and what is the new coach comes in and says i want these guys or these guys don't fit what i wanna do or whatever the case may be like i just don't think it's right to continue to ask those kids to be patient when when you have no nobody has any idea when the end is in sight because her lawyers are in charge of the situation right now and and and i've said this to you. I think last week lawyers get paid by the hour for a reason and that reason is because they don't work fast. When's the last time you've heard a lawyer talked about the expediting a process that her but so what they do. So what are we doing. I understand that they don't just have five point. Two five million dollars laying around. But if you are going to enter this process where you're going to try to find a reason to fire your coach. You're going to alienate him. He's going to lawyer up litigation as a possibility if litigation is a possibility than being forced to pay the five point. Two five million dollars or a comparable amount is something that you have to prepare for. So it's easy to dismiss. The person goes look. You don't want them here. You don't want him as the coach right wrong or indifferent. Cut the check and go and it's easy to say to that we'll look it's they don't have that kind of money lying around but if you're going to start this process you do have to have as a contingency plans to pay him and so to me you dip into that money and you raise a little bit more if the alternative. Is you drag your program through weeks of uncertain t weeks of hell. There's all sorts of collateral. Damage your next head. Coach gets off to a start. He's behind the eight ball right away playing catch up. Your kids aren't in limbo. Your fans aren't in limbo and you move on to me. That's that is money worth paying at this point even if it comes at the expense of football which i know is a consideration. Even if it's a tough bullet to bite for uc it's worth at this point because what what is what is happening right now and what is going to continue to happen. Until there's a resolution is awful for all parties involved. I mean. I agree. But i don't even they don't like they don't even have that money to give to football. We just saw them cut the locker room project in half and they don't have the half so then how then. How do you even start this process. How do you even start this process. If you don't have in mind look. This is going to cost us something. It's there's a really good chance not as cut and dry as he goes. we don't pay them a dime. We don't have to pay the five point two five but we might have to. I mean it was a possibility if it was a possibility. Then you had to be able to financially handle that possibility that is staggering to me. I mean that's that's the insane part of choosing this path with the only endgame being. We're firing john brennan from causing paying him zero dollars. That was the end game. No other possible outcome was on the table for the university of cincinnati. I don't believe. I talked to a lot of people in and around the program. I don't know of anyone that has been contacted to set up a a a you know a dry whatever you wanna call it the coverage brains bio anyone. That's been contacted for that. So it's not even on the table for my understanding gathering. Money to pay. John brennan to go away is not something that's even remotely been explored. It is option a fire. John brennan for 'cause paying zero dollars option b. o. craps here. We are back with no resolution in sight. I mean yeah the damage that is being done. Every party involved here is is ridiculous. And frankly i think unnecessary well people talk about. When they've got be all one point five billion dollar endowment then you don't know how endowments work that money is that monies earmarked when people donate it. That money is grant money. That money is money is not for the athletic department to just say. Hey can we get. We have five million of that please and thank you if they could do that. Guess what would have eight million dollar Second floor of the winner center right now. But that's not how it works. You have to raise that money i have. I have one minute here you utah. You mentioned. luke fickle if. You're a luke. Fickle watching all of this unfold. What are you thinking. I think we have to end this. I haven't really heard this mentioned match. I think we have to remember. Luke nicholas has been through stuff like this. He's been through. What happened with jim. Tressel he's been through what happened with with urban meyer. He's watched athletic programs. Handle it in some ways properly in some ways very poorly and that was with a veteran athletic director. That knew what he was doing. I can't imagine he's watching. What's happening to the basketball program and thinking and no big deal. I can't imagine that. I can't fathom a place where louisville is in at least at minimum paying attention to this and raising his eyebrows. That's his boss. That's in charge of this process. And i don't i. Don't say that to incite panic. But i think the obvious answer to this question. Is you have to assume that. Has his eye on things and is at least observing from afar and making judgments on how he feels about how this is being handled. I guess like most coaches. He's probably pro coach probably more so than he is. Pro athletic director. Always appreciate the time. We'll i'm sure we'll do it next week. Thank you as always appreciate. Thanks exasperation my. I know i know and hopefully hopefully my five days of freedom are ruined by work because that would mean that this is almost over and i just wanted to be over. I do all right nonetheless enjoy. We'll talk next week. Thanks so much all right. thank you. Chad brenda's website bear journal dot com. Follow him on twitter at chad. Parental bengals are going to have a ring of honor elizabeth blackburn help. Make this happen. She will join us next. Ready for some footba we are. This is dave lapham and you're listening to the home of the bengals. Espn fifteen thirty. See he'll be he'll be in the ring upon honor one day lap. I will get one vote so so being the ring of honor one day if they listen to me on how you doing. This is espn fifteen. Thank you so much for listening Glad you're here. Bengals announced today something we have discussed for. God knows how many different segments on this show over the years. They're they're starting. They're launching a ring of honor. And as you might expect. Anthony moon is going to be in the inaugural class at will chat with the greatest bengal of all time in one hour. He will go in with paul brown and there will be two spots up for grabs subject to a vote of season ticket holders and suite holders. Later this spring this will be a recurring events the bengals announcing it today the video they produced which is extraordinarily well done is on my website. Espn fifteen thirty dot com slash mo a driving force behind what we've seen this team do over the last couple of months which is they've shown a willingness to be more engaging with fans the social media account of the cincinnati bengals has been great. They're getting new uniforms. There is a genuine effort to extend an olive branch to the public. And i think. I think there's a lot of fans who feel aged energized. And you know look obviously we hope. The draft yields players that a better product on the field and surround joe burrow with what he needs. But i genuinely do think it's kind of a fun time to be a bengals fan in the ring of honor kind of goes hand in hand with that person who has helped drive a lot of this is the director of strategy and engagement. She's been profiled in the athletic. We chatted with paul deandre junior about that. And this is our first chance to chat with elizabeth blackburn on a big day for her and the franchise. I know you've been busy. I appreciate the time this afternoon. How are you. i'm great. How are you i am. I appreciate you coming on this. This is a big deal. And i look. I know you kinda gauge the temperature of a fan base. This has been one of those things that longtime fans at least for years said look do something and ring of honor retired jersey numbers bring back former players. This is a big day. I think you grasp how big of a day this is for a lot of longtime bengals fans absolutely. And i'm just so excited to be here and hear from you and hear from fans to be a part of it walk us through the process. Guide us through everything that got us to the point that we got to today where the announcement was made. So i can walk you through the process at that. I've been part has since. I joined the team in twenty twenty and Right when i came back. I had i started having conversations internally with folks all over the organization just understand what what we've explored in the past why we are where we are and and how we can best move forward and ban engagement is. That's why i have engagement in my in my job. Title is critical and So really the ring of honor has been into making certainly debated consider talked about before i was here and then It's been kind of on the agenda since i got back And it was. There are a lot of discussions about you. Know why they haven't done it. And and how we could do it and in a way that we felt good about until it's been really exciting to see all of this in the process from ide- idealization to you know what's gonna make it enough and then working with our content team and talking about the archives talking about the content plan. That's going to be critical with this as well as working with stadium operations doing stadium walks testing. People saw that. What's gonna look good and It's been a really fun thing to to be part of and work on for the last year. And i'm so excited that we get now and confirm it today and keep talking about it all summer and ultimately unveil it in the fall and and you know have the fans and alumni and legend there to take it in. You'll have a four person inaugural class. And i want to talk about. What's what's next and determining who the next to our with your great grandfather and with with anthony muna's but fears was you and i could sit down and i bet you we can come up with a list of forty fifty people that would be deserving of at least consideration for a ring of honor and one of the things i was fearful of was. They're going to do this one day. And then just had this huge ring of honor class and that's it will revisit this ten years after players retire. I'm relieved that's not going to be the case. I liked the fact. This is going to be recurring. I liked the fact that you know every year. We'll have people to vote on players to talk about our coaches to debate their merits. How did you decide on the size of the inaugural class and ultimately how this is going to unfold in future years well no. I'm really glad to hear that You of shared our perspective about this. Not being one and done thing and this really living on and living on in a significant way so we debated the right size in and ultimately just found that four. It has a nice ring to it at first four and if a balance of carrying weight but not overcrowding the inaugural class. Because if you're fact and really it's wiser announcing anthony and paul brown's now by themselves really let it breathe if you will and We're really excited in. Want you to years in fees to get there and get their celebration as well so we hope that you know for really strike that balance for the first year and are excited for this to continue in the future guide me through the process of determining determining who is going to be eligible for one of those other two spots and then ultimately how those two spots who gets them is going to be determined yet so in terms of first determining who will be eligible for the vote it really wasn't a multi factor analysis and discussion. We took criteria for all the players have to be retired players Some ring of honor have specific amounts of times dedicated to that. We are saying they need to be retired player. Retired players and So we put joe berlin already. They're exactly but The once the player is retired. Then the other backers that we evaluated in terms of who will be on the initial ballot and really our criteria was to create a ballot that the organization unanimously felt good about all all the players. We would deport being during honor and we considered robles all time. First team all pro team records Kind of their their career with the bengals their impact in the community. It was as well as the first fifty vote during our fifty th anniversary and all talk about this in a second but we we are doing the vote in the spring and opening that up for season pick members in suite holders. We are factoring in fans sentiments. Because we just recently took a ban as well media though to celebrate our fiftieth anniversary and those were looked at as well in determining the ballot. So we went through a process to establish a unanimous salad that organizations excited about and once we unveil an announced that ballot he's in ticket members and suite holders. We'll get to vote and their vote. That tally will pick the next few to round out our inaugural class. The voting is as a mentally engaging and hopefully our he didn't take it members in suite. Holders enjoy that that process in having a say in the vote. Earn the inaugural class also. Their vote is tied to their ten years to really tip our cap to the loyal many many many loyal these in ticket members and suite holders to been with us since the beginning since a very long time and so your vote counts for your tenure with with the bengals and we hope that's kind of find element to the wall. This will all culminate this year in a ring of honor a designated ring of honor game and obviously schedules not out yet. So you can't speak to specifics but but can you sort of take me through what that looks like when when the date has been chosen minor standing. It's a halftime ceremony. What does the ring of honor ceremony look and feel like honestly. We're still working through it. As we understand fully what the the season in gains are going to look like this fall. But i'll just say you know. The organization is really bullish and optimistic about games. The game environment this fall and the ring of honor games is meant to be a celebration of greatness and ideally. They're you know we're hoping to have additional programming sort of around the game on the weekend as an alumni ring of honor but broader alumni reunion. We've we really want it to be Meaningful opportunity to connect with our alumni players to connect with our fans. You didn't take holders. And we had great success around the fiftieth anniversary I'm not sure if you or anybody listening. Had the opportunity to go to any of the programming we did tied into our fifty s but We we had a lot of stuff with that. And i think are hoping to take some of the best elements from that university and build on for a ring of honor dean. You said well. I don't know if you had i spent i spent that entire summer ranking my own top fifty. You kidding me. I kept me up at night. You know what. I liked about what you guys did with that. Don't all seriousness. It was you had the first fifty but then invited to some of ceremonies where we're players outside of the top fifty and those those guys are are kind of the backbone of a franchise and it was called that those guys had a chance to be to be a part of it. Let me ask you this. I'm going to put you on the spot a little bit. Here i don't want to show any favoritism but you know you've you've grown up with this franchise right so you have your favorites. Who is the one player that when they go into the ring of honor it may be years from now it can be an active guy they go into the ring of honor for you is going to be most meaningful and to be honest with you and say it's chad. I have like twelve chad. Johnson shadow to like i. I would be lying if i tried to beat around the question. It would be chad so for me. It's boomer i'm older than you. That's like my hero of youth. So like this answer though would be your. What would be your sisters that giving love. We have so many amazing what like alumni legend players. It's it's amazing Another one. Because paul brown's gonna go in right now. I if i ask my family members to tell me about my great-grandfather they're like he. Fixed air conditioners and he drank scotch. When you ask about paul brown what stories are told. Oh man Mostly i there are so many. So many it's amazing It's a mix of stories from matthew lynn and stories from from you know his transition between the browns. And then coming in and starting the bengals with my grandpa and my great uncle They're just there are so many i Unfortunately i never got to meet him. So that's that's i just really enjoy hearing stories and learning about and he's an amazing amazing successful impressive individual. It drives me nuts. There is a george halas trophy. A lamar hunt trophy vince. Lombardi trophy all of all deservedly. So the league doesn't do anything for paul brown. So after you get this done you gotta start banging on roger goodell's for me and get. That changed okay. I one more. I've i've one more question. I've enjoyed talking to you this is. I've wanted to do this for a couple of weeks. Now so my my guy at the athletic paul danner junior wrote about you. And some of the efforts that you're sort of in charge of the bengals and they're great. But i was a little concerned. Where you you're quoted as saying that you're very in touch with a bengals twitter and as a twitter user. I have to ask how in touch are you. I don't really know how to answer. Reward your big basically have any of my tweets shown up on your radar great good. That's that's nice. That's way i knew what i was getting into here not to answer. I was hoping for. You're doing a great job seriously as a as a lifelong fan as someone who i've spent so much time saying they've got to do a ring of honor they've got they've got to do a better job of engaging and and being involved in fan outreach i could tell from people who care about this franchise what you're doing resonating and it matters. It matters to a lot of people so congrats on getting this done. But don't call us again. Don't be a stranger. I love talking about this kind of stuff. You have such a unique perspective. And i really do think it's a fun time to be a bengals fan and i hope you feel the love from people who are really appreciative of of this in particular with the ring of honor. Thanks so much that really kind of thing so much for having me on of your shout novel to. We'll try thank you. Elizabeth blackburn is the bengals director of strategy and engagement. Anthony munoz will be on this show coming up at five taryn we need elizabeth blackburn on the show. More often. anthony munoz will be on this show at Five zero five. Your phone calls are head. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station in johnson. Baseball about thirty minutes away today. There's actually a chance they talk about baseball telephone. Call five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty and eight six six seven two three seven. Seven six is part of the show is brought to you by house. Bain pretty much hit the post right then pretty much. Just banged it. Right there Greg is in madeira on. Espn thirty. hi greg. How you doing man great. What's going on. I tell you what man the bengals ring of honor. You know what i mean. I mean i'm thirty four years old but you look at some of these. You know you know bengals have been around a lot longer than that. Obviously so you gotta think about the fans that have you seen the bengals since nice sixty eight. How awesome it is for them you know. Yeah i mean look. It's always you know. Mike brown said three or four years ago. We don't trade on the stalls. And i understand that but there's always there's something cool about seeing guys. You grew up watching players that brought you to the sport players that create the credited special memories as a child that the reds have long done that. I got a kick out of watching. Eric davis go into the reds hall of fame and watching barry larkin. Get his jersey number of tired and seeing dave parker go into the reds hall of fame. Guys that i grew up watching the bengals players of my youth have deserved. The ones who are deserving of the honor are deserving of that moment and as a fan. So am i and i. I think that's the part of this. That a lot of people haven't necessarily really completely grasped the wings of honor our for players and therefore players who deserve to be inducted into rings of honor and hall of fame but at the end of the day therefore fans there for fans of those players for fans of those memories for fans of those teams. And that's the part that i think has been most egregious if you will in terms of the bengals to this point refusal to do what they announced. They're doing today absolutely. And you know another question i have. No you got yourself. Also new uniform. The ring of honor. You know greg me. If i'm wrong here you know. Obviously he's twenty. Six is a big year whether or not what happened. But let me ask you this now. I mean if i if i if i if i knew i was going to be leaving cincinnati would i really even be wasting my time coming out with the ring of honor and new uniforms. I mean to me. call me crazy. I mean i know about economics. Have this goes or anything but to me but then good. They're going to be here for quite some time at which is awesome. I think you can interpret down way. I mean you can you can deduct people in your ring of honor and take them with you you can. You can take anthony. Moon uses name and put it in your new stadium and you can take those new uniforms with you but yet look they're trying. They're trying to reach out to a fan base. That's here at the end of the day. Yes all that that's going to matter to most most folks is do they win and do they go about doing everything they can to win. That's what matters most. That's what's going to matter to the most amount of people but there are other elements that make people feel good and for years. The bengals were not associated with things that made people feel good. What they've done. This offseason has very little to do with the on and off field stuff but it does make people feel good and again it gets. It gets people talking about your franchise in ways. That are fun. Nobody's complaining about no practice bubble and nobody's whining and moaning about the stadium be. We're talking about great players from the past and who's deserving of being inducted into the ring of honor those are fun discussions have and they make people feel good about your brand absolutely and blackford hacked off to her. You know her reaching out of the fan base. Listen to the fan base. I mean this is exactly what the fans have been waiting for for quite some time. You know like. I say the fact that they're listening going bengals twitter something. She doesn't have to show how far she wanted to go to the fans to me. That more than what. You're supposed to do it often that i appreciate. Thank you greg for the phone call is always seem to get it and a look. That's probably a name we're gonna be talking about for many many years with this franchise. That's that's that's how it works. You know but the early returns are are really good here to me is the most going to be the most interesting things. Sometimes about halls of fame and rings of honor are like anthony. Moon ios is him. No doubt paul brown is in kenny. Anderson's in ken riley's in chad. Johnson is in. we can go on down the line. Right lamar parish in andrew. Whitworth in asked this question on twitter. The thing remember now about these things as they do have to be exclusive couple of years ago we had the conversation about ucla. Basketball and sean kilpatrick. I don't think you see basketball. Does a very good job of celebrating. Its former players either celebrating them. I mean even if you walk around the new fifth third arena as great as it is not as much as that as you would like and there's always this hesitation all sean kilpatrick like duties the second all time leading score all american league. There's this hesitancy. And then. When i bring up sean kilpatrick turns into discussion. It's like well wait a minute. You gotta strike balance between celebrating a certain wrong player but also not watering it down with. Just everybody not. Everybody is going to be a ring of honor guy. Somebody suggested to me on twitter. Would even hard would be a ring of honor guy like no not. Everybody's going to be a ring of honor guy i. I've asked this question on twitter. And you're not gonna get the answer to this. Who is going to end up being the best non ring of honor bengals player. I this conversation about halls of like somebody has to be the best player not in the hall of fame. Somebody also has to be the worst player in the hall of fame like somebody's in this conversation about basketball. I think chris weber's probably the best of guys. Were eligible. probably the best player. Who's not in the hall of fame. And i can make the case for or against who's gonna end up being the best bengals player ultimately not in the ring of honor their conversation about the reds in their hall of fame too. I don't know who would be for the reds. Is that like is it reggie. Sanders is paula. Neil guys like that. Who's gonna end up being the best bangle. That's the thing about this. It does have to be just exclusive enough like. What do you do what we were talking about this before the show you what do you do with like carson palmer. Because on one hand his statistically. He's among the best four quarterbacks in the history of the franchise realistically to elite years ugly departure. Andy dalton andy dalton on the same level as kenny anderson. No the on the same level is boomer esiason probably and i'm a huge boomer guy but boomer got him to zuber. We'll wait marvin lewis. I would say forrest gregg super bowl. Sam wish took him to a super bowl. Marvin lewis on one hand. Modernized the franchise brought broadened out of the dark ages had a bunch of really good teams on the other hand bupkus on the postseason. Wait do avant as perfect short bursts of excellence where he was. You might say the best player on the team not to be as remembered for that and the shelf. Life was short like the okay. Anthony munoz is going to go in no-brainer chad. Johnson is gonna go in okay. No-brainer are ken. riley is going to go in overdue. But no brainer. David culture is gonna go in no-brainer. Tim krumrie is gonna you know guys like that. Who are the borderline guys that you'll make a case for like my second. All time favorite bengals players jeff blake. You're not putting. Jeff blake a ring of i love. Jeff blake if i ever get another bengals jersey. I'm getting a jeff blake. I love jeff. Blake place not the ring of honor. So it's gotta be exclusive enough that you still have like the best of the best guys but there does have to be room for you know talking about dudes who at least will be under some consideration. Those are fun discussions to have. We are late for a break. Twenty-eight from five reds are off a play the diamondbacks tomorrow and mentioned something yesterday that made me think of the words. All in when it comes to the reds. We'll do that and take some more phone calls on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station. It's a service of kelsey. Chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection and guaranteed credit approval from their family to yours for life. dot com humpty. Dan should be in rotation more often. Taryn we should hear this reds are off tonight They study three game series against the diamondbacks arizona. Tyler molly and taylor widener will be your pitchers. Widener is a righty. That's like nine nine thirty five gave. The reds didn't play in the west coast last year. They've they've obviously started the season at home right. All they did was play teams in the central central or eastern time zone. They haven't played a west coast. Not even on the west coast. Although i guess this time you're arizona is three hours behind based on the reaction on social media. You would think this is a new concept when they play in arizona. Those games don't start at seven. Oh five eastern dude. It's a friday tech map doing their good now. The worst up for especially on the weekends bengals announced today. There are launching a ring of honor. The four person inaugural class will include. Anthony munoz. We'll be on this show and twenty five minutes. Paul brown and two others who will be voted on amongst a group of candidates by season ticket holders and sweet owners round. 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Brandon is calling from westchester brandon. You're on espn fifteen thirty. Our you know how are you doing. I'm wonderful good. So i'm gonna i'm gonna push back a little bit on. What chad said actor And i love your show. First time caller. Thank you for tadic to come on and say. Hey he's gotta consider the situation. Johnny mathis consider the situation before making the decision too long. Don't make a right. So whatever. John brennan did right within within the season. Right you're gonna sit there and go. Hey just let's just we can't. We can't fire him because it's gonna take too long right. It just doesn't make any sense to me right so you you've got to make the decision that's best for the program long-term and i saw that mike sanders of mike. Saunders made a tweet moments ago singing that he's making a decision the next few days. Don't make a decision based off of mike saunders. Make a decision off the best long term. I think people are forgetting here that this athletic director john cunningham is a former attorney. So what do what he's going through this. And if you go through justin williams report. He's going through this very detailed to make sure that they can fire john. Brennan wisconsin. So well i just. I just feel like it's all doom and gloom here. I feel like everything's everything's like. The sky is falling every day. You can we just all take a deep breath for one second and just say. Let's go through the process right understand that next probably going to be a little rough we that come in and we do that regardless of rain is going to be for dot right. I i think we've puerto situation. It's gonna get better sure. Here's here's where i think. This is hard for a lot of people myself included. It's it's the lack of a really smoking gun but there clearly are some things that that could very well be worth looking into right when when you have the immediate exodus. They had even in this day and age. If you wanna take a look into that that makes all the sense in the world right. I mean even in this day and age where players are are leaving programs very soon after the seasons are ending. Let's take a look at that then when you have the report of players being unhappy okay. Let's let's take a look at that. But i think oftentimes in situations like this thursday really smoking gun. The smoking gun here appears to involve some players. Who didn't get along with their coach. Some liberties being taken with the amount of time that teams are allowed to practice a handful of situations with which john brennan was was overseeing a practice that probably should have been cut off and one that reportedly was by medical staff. Not that those things are in serious they are and they should be looked into. A coach should be punished for those things. If they're found to be true. I don't know that those things rise to the level of run the guy out of town now if you want the guy gone sure it does but but i think what. A lot of people are struggling with here is. Hey look if there's a situation where it looks like a coach's paying players yeah fine because that puts in jeopardy things like postseason eligibility right if there's a scituate that academic problem if there's situations like louisville where they're strippers involved. These huge smoking guns with titillating circumstances. Oh yeah we're willing to take our time here. It just doesn't feel like what's being alleged matches the damage being done to the program being worth it for a lot of people in. I don't necessarily disagree with those folks. Well and i'll say this small that we're only hearing one side of this too right because see you know. We're we're we're getting all the tweets from from tom. Marrs we're getting the tweets and we're seeing him responding because he's trying to work the uc crowd. He knows exactly the quicker that he can get them riled up the quicker you see makes decision of quicker john brennan and gets his money right so we don't know all the facts we don't know if there's a smoking gun right now we don't know if there is something you know. The one thing that just williams report said was manipulation and trust me the two things that are in there. If you look at john brennan his contract you know. Basically says the wellbeing of the students You know and i don't have a word for word on the contract right now but there's a there is a specific closet says the wellbeing of the students must adhere to well. You could sit there and say my lip relation and trust. It is clear as day to sit there and say that that's not you know that that he's not falling that sure. But that's that's a smoking gun right. No but i think what you'll have you'll have what you'll have folks say as well okay so manipulation and trust that could be a coach saying to a guy. Hey you're gonna start. And then he doesn't would probably bush properly out from the from the other side and we won't until this is resolved. We don't know that so you're right and to say is i. You know. I don't want to you know i i. I just feel like it's all doom and gloom for the media right now and let's just let i. I understand that we all want this wrapped up tomorrow. I there's nothing i want more either. Let's let the process play out. Let bernie what john cunningham was. Let him do his job right. Because all we're doing is basically helping mars by sitting there pushing us to sit there and pay for the university by sitting there putting you know basically our foot on his on johnny cunningham neck. I think you're coming at it from a very very fair and reasonable point of view. Absolutely i do think it's fair to wonder whatever they're trying to do john cunningham whatever their giambra whatever they find whatever they allege whatever they ultimately try to stick with an however this ends whatever happens in the interim whatever damage is done to the program. Is it worth. the answer may end up being yes. I don't know that it's going to be no but you can't believe that things are good right now if this was originally done with the idea that we're going to keep some of these players from hitting the portal and leaving. They're not gonna wait much longer if the idea is. We're going to get a new head coach. If you want to set them up for success do you want to do it. In a climate in which they're doing their job amid a backdrop of legal entanglements between a coach and a school d. Want them up against up against cobbling together. A staff at the last minute putting together a team at the last minute deciding making decisions on the players who were on the team right now. The new coach come in go. I don't want these guys now. These guys hit the portal when there's already hundreds of scholarships being filled long-term. Can you recover from this. Sure you can. But in the interim for i think for a program that at the end of the basketball season i kind of felt like things were trending slightly upward. They certainly don't. And i think what a lot of people are. Weighing is the outcome of the investigation versus the collateral damage of the investigation. And i think there's a lot of people who have concluded that the collateral damage of the investigation is not worth it. It's not worth whatever they conclude. It's not worth whatever they do to get rid of john brennan without having to pay him and i understand that point of view as well and that makes it listen. I think that makes complete sense what you're saying to right. I'm just saying from the other. Side i just feel like it's all doom and gloom and so i just wanted to to to to you know to let people know that. Hey there is another side of this that we're hearing right. We have no accidents. All one-sided yes fake john brennan's right on all this attorneys right but until we get those facts and we will get those facts because it's a public institution. We can request records. We'll we'll understand that. More so i just wanted to say i really appreciate you being middle of the road on this. 'cause i feel like everybody one side or the other and i just really appreciate you taking my call and listen to me on your way to reasonable. Thank you for the call. Anthony munoz joins us and fifteen minutes brennaman jones on baseball next fifteen cincinnati bengals. Play here. sure do it's four minutes. After five o'clock this is espn fifteen. Thirty is mo egger noon. Hope you've had a fabulous thursday. The cincinnati bengals this morning announced the formation of a ring of honor. They will celebrates and honor on a recurring basis. Some of their most important figures they will induct during the two thousand twenty one season and inaugural class of four two of those spots to be determined. that'd be subject to a vote of sweet owners and season ticket holders those two figures. Whoever they may be will join the two that were announced. Today paul brown obviously no surprise and equally unsurprising the induction of i think most of us would agree the greatest bengal of all time the pro football hall of famer and now inaugural bengals ring of honor. Inductee the great anthony munoz. Who's with us this afternoon. It's been awhile. Congratulations how are you. Thank you thank you doing. well doing. Good pleasure talking with you as always but It's been a fun day funday. And that's exciting. I think for all the way around. I mean organization players community. So i'm to be part of the the ring of honor. You've you've achieved. Football's highest honor. You've had that moment in canton. There's nothing. I'm sure that's like that. But that said there's something special about being honored a for the franchise that you're closely identified. With for the franchise. That you're at the top of the totem pole. For for the franchise that i try to forget the five minutes you were in tampa bay is is basically the only franchise you played for. So that's what is something like this mean. Well first of all. You're right with tampa bay. I mean i did. Put the uniform on but officially not a bucket near because i didn't play any regular. You're not gonna make their ring of honor came in that's it it's very special. No first of all you know myself and my wife either v very grateful that you know my senior year in college when over half the teams failed me physically. They weren't gonna touch me. That one team took a chance. Paul brown the brown family the bengals so the fact that they took a shot. I played thirteen years here. we've been here in cincinnati for forty one years. This is our home Played every nfl game for the cincinnati. Bengals in my career. It's extra special. It's extra special that you know it started here in nineteen eighty at ended here and we still live here for. That's what makes it really really special and you go to games. Your family goes to games to be able to to look up to be able to have them look up and see your name every time the bengals play. That's not something that most of us will ever will ever experience that has to be to even think about that has to be cool. It really is when you talk about being humble in all humility. That's i mean you know back when i was growing up in high school and even through college with versus. I never even thought that this would happen now. That all this is happening We still pinch ourselves. But you're right the bid the game and to look up between the sweet levels the ball to to be able to see the name my name and number and It's gonna be very special in you know so. Hopefully you know as more names and numbers are added You know we'll be able to not not only gaze up there during the regular season but the gaze up there during playoffs and hopefully one day soon. Afc championship game and we can continue to come to the game and look up. There are the guys that are playing now can can celebrate and when they retire part of that that would be that would be the ultimate. You mentioned you've had the moment in canton. That every pro football player aspires to not. Everybody gets that most. Don't but what i've always said about a bengals ring of honor is i want on that level. I want bengals players to get that. I want bengals players to get that moment where there acknowledged by fans where they get celebrated where their story gets told and to me. That's that's what's really special about this. There are former bengals. Why believe should be in canton. I can make the case like you count for ken anderson. I can make the case like you can't for riley honestly kenny. Ken riley's passing means. He's not going to get that moment but his family will and kenny harrison is hopefully going to be in the bengals ring of honor very very very soon. Speak to what being able to be a part of something like this. Basically for non hall of famers. What is what is something like that going to mean for some of your former teammates and some of the guys that you've watched you've retired. It'll be amazing again. We can talk about the guys that we believe should be in canton and hopefully that happened but for this there's so many great players have played for this organization before i got here. I mean you think of course can you. Anderson was your prior. i played with ten. Am and guys like tommy casanovas. Lemar parrish bob. Trumpy bob johnson. Then guys i played with. You know kenny anderson. And reggie williams and tim conway max montoya isaac curtis and you just got the then. The guy's after i play you know after i played You know you. Got the guys like willy anderson and they'll feel those guys so it's one of those things that it's time now that people not only here that didn't have a chance to watch us play. Concede that yeah. There were a lot of great players that played for this organization and have played in the fifty plus years. And i think that's something for the whole country that follows the nfl to be able to see that just because we only have one pro football hall of famer. It doesn't mean that we don't have other guys that are worthy of being there that we have a number of guys that have been amazing during their nfl football careers. You are going to go into the bengals ring of honor with paul brown. There are two generations of bengals fans who who weren't around or weren't into the team. Don't remember paul brown. The coach don't remember. Paul brown the executive. Obviously he didn't coach you but he was in the front office. He helps select you. He was behind building a couple of super bowl. Teams that you were a part of when when people ask about what. It was like to work for paul brown. What do you tell them. Well i tell you should really look into to just doing a history examination on paul brown to see everything. He brought not only to the city of cincinnati. But cleveland masculine. Or how what he did for. The game of football is amazing. You'd think he'd take things for granted like the playbook and the videotaping practices. Those are all paul brown innovations. I would highly recommend people that just here about the name to really do a history search and look at what he brought to the game. I mean until he got sick. And i think it was like my tenth eleventh year. I saw him every time every time. I was at riverfront stadium. Every time i made a trip. Paul brown was there. He did not miss a day in the ten eleven years and i was there and of course prior to that but the many years he was there before i got there so you know and that's what i've talked about and that was a fun thing for me when i went into paul brown stadium and when mike the entire family was there to to let me know that what they were doing after the initial announcement and i just kinda was really humbled by that is we started sharing stories about. I shared my story about paul brown and mike shared stories forrest gregg. And and that's the great thing about what's going to happen as you get an opportunity Hopefully through the documentation through archive of putting those things together. So like you said so. People that never really saw paul brown coach or when he was around concede that and guys you know and people are never saw me play. I mean there's plenty of because i'm so older now that they're going to start recording net and have archives and documentation have really let people see the history of this organization The great anthony. Speaking of people who never saw you play. This is driven me nuts. I you and i are the same. We want the bengals to take sole right. And i'm going to ask you about that. So this guy shows up on my radar in december before the season's over he's generating a lot of draft buzz and there's these draft analysts were like you know what he could be the next anthony muna's and i'm going hang on a second. Hey never saw anthony play. I did be. That's incredibly unfair to do to the guy don't do that. Compare to somebody. Who's not quite anthony munoz. I don't know what i'm asking you to say. But this has been something. I've been ranting about for months. You wanna take the nasal great. I hope he's awesome. I wanna take them stop. Comparing him to anthony munoz for me. It's it's a thrill to hear that. But you know i've had a chance of being. Us guy pac twelve guy. I saw him play. You know right when he got in the starting lineup he's been a nemesis to my trojans I was impressed on the very first time. I saw the guy play I thought he was smaller than he is saying. He's like three thirty. He moves amazingly out in the open. Space great franks ability. He's got a nastiness to him. So from what i've seen unless i don't really know what i'm looking for in an offensive tackle. He's pretty good. Yeah i've heard a couple of things is is. Everyone gets scrutinized during the or during the pre draft. You know his arms are a little short little round. I'm thinking you know what at three thirty. We're all going to be a little round at two sixty. I'm a little round. I mean a lot less weight than when i was when i was playing so i think you can pick everybody apart. But from what. I've seen i think he'd be a good fit here. The great anthony munoz inaugural member of the bengals ring of honor. It is. it's awesome that we get a chance to have this conversation and it's awesome. That will get a chance to talk about this on a recurring basis with guys. You played with with guys that you've watched. It's awesome very quickly. How's the foundation. Doing foundation's doing great. We're celebrating twenty years this year We're off the first. Three months of the year have been phenomenal in retaining bringing on new partners and financially Being able to do even a little more than what we've been doing we were. We had to reinvent ourselves last year. Because you know kobe which was a good thing. I think reach went a little further with a lot of the virtual stuff. We did so now with that being said we start to to open up and get back in person. We've learned that now. We can utilize some of that virtual You know filming and taping and use those as our assets but Yeah i'm still energized. As an old guy at something. My wife. And i are constantly talking about how much longer how much longer than i keep saying. Well if things keep going like this. I might give it another thirty forty nine thirty but yeah it's it's going. Well we have a chance again this year. Motor to really recognize and celebrate a lot of the young talent in this great community Through our seven program. So i appreciate you asking and Again where i think. We're going to get back to heading out to westchester for our top. Golf tailgates hopefully. We're they're going to have you. There were there. Yes just tell us when we missed. We missed doing that show last year. So yes we wanna come back. Just let us know. And we'll have more ring of honor stuff to talk about. So that'll be a lotta fun. Congratulations this was. This was a no brainer and when we were talking about the possibility of bengals ring of honor we we all knew you would be included. We all knew you would be in that inaugural class. That doesn't make it any less special for us as fans and i'm sure for for you as an inductee. I appreciate you joining me. It's always good to have you on. Anthony thanks so much. Thank you have a great night appreciate you got at the the. Great anthony munoz. What is awesome about him. Is he's in. The hall of fame is the only. Terrell owens is in the hall of fame but you don't think of him as a bangle and paul brown is in the hall of fame but frankly you think of him as winning championships with with the browns. Anthony munoz is the only bengal hall of famer. And i certainly can make the case for ken. riley. I believe he belongs in. Could certainly make the case for kenny anderson willie anderson. I believe those players deserve think willie anderson deserves a really strong look. I think kenny anderson deserves to be in. But if you have to have one if you're stuck with one you want it to be somebody. The caliber of anthony munoz. And what makes what makes it special when he goes into the bengals ring of honor is. You're celebrating the player and there people who consider anthony the greatest offense lineman of all time and that may be true. He's certainly in the conversation. I i've never met a better human being. I'm i've i've said there's two people my tongue around my grandmother who passed three months ago and anthony moon that is you're celebrating the player but when it comes to anthony anybody who's ever been around him anybody who's ever had a chance to listen to him. Speak anybody who's become remotely familiar with the work that has foundation does your celebrating the man as well. And that's what makes it cool. That's what makes it cool. Having a guy like anthony's a franchise icon one day. I hope there is a statue of him and you could talk about anthony for an hour and never mentioned the kind of player that he was and he's one of the greatest to ever play the game so it's it's always a treat to get a chance to talk to him and i didn't. I didn't go to canton. One thousand nine hundred and watch him get inducted. I will be at paul brown stadium to watch him. Go to the bengals ring of honor with three inductees and that's certainly is deserved. That's cool part of eighteen minutes. After five o'clock i this is. I'm crossing complaining about the bengals. Not having a ring of honor off my list and now the conversation can turn funds so we'll have it next on. Espn fifteen thirty. Believe we our guest free the rest of the way twenty three minutes after five o'clock and we plan monkeys the monkeys because of the monkeys paul requested to hear this reminds me of the davy. Jones reminds me of three things to are very very closely tied to each other days. Jones on the brady bunch. Davy jones in the brady bunch movie and davy jones was he. Did the chicken dance at october. Fest and i was there for that. I think it was like two thousand. He sang the song somebody requested. Because they like the monkeys over. Because do we know of monkeys. Were officially loose. We really gotten to the bottom of this. See this is what happens all day long. I start my day. i'm in this little sports cocoon and emerges from until after six o'clock and you don't know what's happening in the world. So when i went into the little sports coon monkeys were running rampant on the west side of town. I don't have time for that. Even though i live on the west side. I had i report show to prepare for okay. I stick to sports all day long. I don't have room for distractions. These football coaches who've never they've never heard of social media and they call it things like my face and water and things like that. So that's what i do. I mean they sports bubble sports cocoon so monkeys could have been looting on the west side of town and destroying pro would have no idea but now thirty five minutes back to being a normal person and then other stuff going on and now i learn about so when i drive home tonight. Glenwood avenue going to be overrun by monkeys. What do we know what happened with the monkeys that were free and running rampant on the. What have they been doing lou. They're still on the loose. Have they been spotted since last night. So monkeys got free on the west side last night. Has anybody seen. Them's nobody's seen them since last night. So they literally give you. How far can a monkey travel. I'm not familiar with the west side. Well i'm not familiar with monkeys but will it. Lets the tent like what nine o'clock last night monkey gets free. Where could a monkey by now. Like how much ground monkey are. They all traveling in a pack. The person who owns the monkeys do they get the monkeys back or now to the monkeys. Go to the zoo or some sort of monkey. Sanctuary me to give a monkey expert on for tomorrow maybe zoologist. The is there such thing as a monkey expert. Is there a person who specializes you know what. I'm sure there is when you decide to go into veterinary medicine. I'm sure you can choose monkeys as like your your specialty your area of expertise. But that's more from a physical health standpoint would know how much ground monkey could cover. I don't even like mean i'm asking this on. Our monkeys considered dangerous animals. There was that one movie with the guy from grey's anatomy that dude and dustin hoffman and there was a monkey that caused this flesh-eating bacteria illness i saw on a date in high school which is better choice by me and it was started with the monkey that monkey dangerous. These are not those kinds of monkeys. Correct i don't think so. Maybe they want to go see guys. Maybe could be yes. Outbreak was that movie that i saw the monkey infected everybody like the whole country. Except for like a few people and rene russo was right now. We covered the monk ever given enough proper coverage to the monkey story on the west side. Scott is bring some sanity sanity. The scott how are you. I'm afraid i can't do that for you. Because the last. I heard they were on the last train to clarksville. Oh see she's got brought it full circle So i i thought you'd be interested in this well because my son told me this and i i thought it was very interesting jonathan india On wednesday do you know what his odds were drive in iran. No minus eight hundred to drive in one run in yesterday's game to have an rbi in that game minus eight hundred number huge number. I was calling i. How were they ever going to catch up with the ring of honor. There's i realize that you could never catch up if you will. But i i mean. They're so far behind now if they do for a year you not an any of our lifetimes. We'll they ever you know. Get somebody like carl pickens in or some of those guys that you were mentioning I think there's like guys like him. I think are interesting because his numbers were fantastic. He was not the most likable guy and he was on terrible teams. So you know what level of support would he get either inside the organization or from fans and then there's you know if obviously requirement is retirement. Think of all of the people that we could be talking about from. Aj gino atkins to carlos dunlap to andy dalton to andrew whitworth. They're not i. I mean they're they're like twenty years out if you if you take a look at maximum toyota and the david full church. James brooks Benson boomer chad. Tj wentworth lap. And just you know naming things that were off the top of my head those guys i feel like half to get in before gino does. The nj does so. How far out are those guys. I mean when this was initially mentioned. I was ecstatic. I thought it was great. But then i thought four only four i mean you. You're you've been in business for fifty. What fifty three years. Sixty four years Shouldn't you maybe At least for your first class bring in a few more so to a degree. That's why i would have kept out paul brown. That sounds ridiculous. Because he's paul brown at the same time. His name is on the stadium. Right you have infinite to celebrate paul brown. You can do that whenever so. What if you didn't include paul and you at least went with muna's and three other guys just just to get a a little bit of a lead on on playing catch up. But you're right. I mean there's you're going to go for a long time with the bengals having a ring of honor and players who are clearly deserving not just players coaches. I mean. yeah you know. There's there's three that you could talk about forrest. Gregg took him to a super bowl. Sam wise to come to a super bowl. Say which one about marvin there. Sixteen years lease the franchise winds and went to the playoffs seven times. There's at least something to consider there. You're gonna go for a long time with people who are least deserving of consideration. Who don't even really seriously considered and that is a byproduct of how long they waited. But i do think you have to. I do think you have to in effect right. Some wrongs and it's why i say this year you gotta do. You gotta do. Kenny anderson because those guys both they both should have had this done already and to me those two guys who are closest to being pro football hall of famers that are eligible right. No i i I totally agree. I again i. I kinda wish that maybe they would have done a little bit. I don't think. Paul brown you know i granted. It's just wine i. I don't see any harm in doing paul brown because he is. There's no harm but if you were going to keep to four and you're trying to get this rolling could you have held paul off And done him later again. There's been no shortage of accolades for paul. I certainly also can't say like all right. You know he is paul brown. I guess it will look kind of stupid if he wasn't in your ring of honor so i could go both ways but yeah i mean it's going to be a really long time and i do think it's going to be interesting to see what you do with a certain level of player. Because you know you're going to have guys who are really good in short bursts but didn't really stick very long. You're going to have guys who are excellent on bad teams. You're gonna you're going to have guys who are maybe beloved figures on winning teams. You're going to have guys who are maybe great statistically but never really connected with the public guys whose contributions maybe can't be measured. Statistically i there's there's lots of different ways to look at this and why. It's why i think it's going to be interesting to talk about some of these individual cases but you're really going to get to them until the no brainers are in and there are no brainers racket now. A lot of over. I mean nobody even mentioned i mean all. We talked all day. And i don't think i've heard collins worth name mentioned. One is curtis. i think there's another lemar parrish corey. Dillon really are for folks who don't pay attention. They got the bengals. I haven't won anything. How many great players could they have. And i'm like actually. Dozens actually doesn't so i'm glad they're doing it. I wish it would have been done awhile ago. But we can have the discussion. Scott thanks. i twenty seven away from six five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty but this is i've i joked at the top of the show that i've crossed complaining about the bengals. Not having a ring of honor off my list of things to do on a slow topic day right and it's always been one of those every single year. You can talk. Why don't they have a ring of honor. Why don't they do that. Why don't they celebrate their former players and it's come up intermittently usually there's a timely aspect to it. Maybe it's the reds having a hall of fame induction or another team another football team announcing its its ring of honor or hall of fame class. But i've i've always done this. There's never been there's never been a downside like it's one of those from standpoint. Sports talk radio topics that on the surface sound great. But you're not gonna find anybody who's like you know what i don't want to ring of honor ended up. There's there's no con- there's no. There's no opposition to a ring of honor. But i've said for for years. The conversation doesn't go away if they end up having a ring of honor one day it just shifts it shifts to something much more fun today. Bengals fans are engaging in harmless debates. About who should be in the team's ring of honor the first ever ring of honor class again for me. It's mooney paul brown. Ken riley kenny anderson and in short order putting in forrest gregg and sam whitish. And then we can go from there. There's gonna be some who disagree and go. Look it's gotta put chad in boomers. Gotta go and those are fun. Discussions have hall of fame. Discussions are fun. Ring of honor. Discussions are fun. And today for a franchise which is often not been associated with fun. Fans are having fun with it. People aren't complaining about the bad record. They had last year the fact they've won a playoff game in forever. Nobody's crying about stadium deals. It's talking about former players franchise greats awesome moments players that have made people feel good and there is value in that you as an individual fan. Might not care and that's okay. There's no one way to follow a football team. The only thing that might matter to you is the nuts and bolts of winning. But that's not everybody. There is value there are there is value in doing that. It's it's also there's something about listening. There's something about showing that you're paying attention that you're in tune with your fan base. The bengals aren't done yet and they have a ways to go. They really do. But it's a step in the right direction and yes it's overdue painfully overdue. But i'm not gonna crush the people who are doing what's right now for what hasn't been done in the past not on a day like today. I'm glad they're doing twenty four from six more of your phone calls on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station. Sports update is a service of kelsey. Chevrolet home of lifetime powertrain protection guaranteed approval from their family to yours for life could've kelsey chef dot com by the way it really quick before i got a text here from brad underwood at local twelve. Who says no monkeys have been found under what is married to a woman who was on channel five and to this day. My friends and i talk about a story that she reported one night and it remains the most fascinating news story. I've ever seen in my life. It involved a guy and his buddy hanging out and has guy like these two guys are hanging out in the one dude meets a woman at the bar and they're they're staying at a hotel to get away from. I think their girlfriends and it brings the girl. Back and things happen any wakes up and he notices. His wallet has been disrupted and she went to walmart. And she booked a bunch of like airline tickets or something but she's still came back to the room and put the wallet back in but he couldn't tell his girlfriend that his identity had been stolen so bread underwood's wife. Emily never forget watching the story and talking about it on the radio. And i never got the conclusion. Maybe brad can text me about that. In addition to the monkeys what happened to the guy who's got his identity stolen but he couldn't go on camera to talk about it. Turns serious i think it was on after like football or something and my buddies and i talked about. This is like four or five years ago nonstop. We wanted to find out more about the guy wanted to find out more about the girl we wanted to find out more about the story. He couldn't tell his might have been married. Couldn't tell a significant other. That he was out with his buddy met some girl. They went back to the room. She as he falls asleep grabs his wallet. Goes walmart books. A bunch of airline trips comes back to the hotel returns the wallet and now the guy's got his identities stolen they arrest the woman but he can't go to court because his wife just remarkable and brand underwood's wife told that on television and it still remains the most. Look it up. I don't remember the name of people involved but the guy couldn't give his name. He couldn't do an on camera interview. Oh yeah reds are off tomorrow. Tyler molly is gonna pitch against taylor widener tyler versus taylor nine forty nine thirty tomorrow. Seven hundred w bengals have announced. Their ring of honor is gonna happen. Inaugural class will include. Paul brown anthony munoz and then two players that Season ticket holders and sweet owners will vote on later this spring. Justin rose has a three shot lead at the masters. He has six through sixteen jim. Herman didn't have a great day for over. Seventy six and jason the xavier product. One hundred for the. He is currently tied for place. You find it. I'm looking up. That's that story. Has that story captured my imagination. More than the monkeys what we should. We talk to people on the phone about sports. Brian's in fort right you're on. Espn fifteen thirty. How are you know how you doing today. Good man what's happening good. Hey i'm super excited about the ring of honor and Excited i think it's a big step in the right direction. But i was thinking. Can we take at least one or two more steps than maybe start retiring. Some numbers is it going to include that. And then can we at least put banners on the wall. That say we have a of the championships. That would be nice. Yes why stop there. Football jersey retirements. My understanding is and i could be wrong about. My understanding is that is not that commonplace around the nfl. If you think about it in camp you gotta have ninety guys right. So there's only one hundred digits from zero to ninety nine so you can only retire. Excuse me you can only retire jersey numbers and to a degree. It's been diluted like you would retire. Kenny anderson's fourteen but a player has has word since would retire boomer size and seven right but his number has been worn since. So i kind of i'm in favor of like there's different tiers like the reds have hall of famers. But then they have guys who's jerseys they retire. I think you do the absolute upper crust of your ring of honor guys and mathematically again. There's only so many that you could really retire. Because you've got to have ninety numbers for camp so i think that's the reason but the me too me something celebrating the eighty one team. Something celebrating the eight team x something celebrating teams. That didn't go to the super bowl but we're really really good. I think that would help. And can they dust off those big signs murals whatever. They are the players who are in paul brown stadium in the concourse is that looked like they haven't been dusted in twenty years and it's it's concrete at least painted orange or black. I'm tired of clare in a concrete. You and i are on the same page there. Okay i have a great day all right. Thank you so much. Have you found story. I'm gonna. I'm gonna find it as i talk to. People brad is in westchester. You're on espn fifteenth. i'm brad here. Westchester just piggyback. On brian there. You talked about You know all the different Players into that great legends and How how are they gonna put that many people on the ring. Is there going to be one ring. Is they're going to be just four per year. You think there's multiple players you know for multiple games. I'm going to hang up. Let you talk thank you. I appreciate it. My understanding is they said recurring. They haven't said every year. The first class is going to be for. My guess is that's going to be. The class is every single year. The reds don't do a hall of fame class every year. They do it every two years. The reds don't have the backlog that the the bengals do. But yeah what it feels like is in talking with elizabeth blackburn alive. This is still being worked out. But they're going to do it on a on a recurring basis. Whether it's simple year every other year remains to be seen likely every year. And they'll designate one game as the ring of honor game and it'll be four players we're for. I should say for people. Because obviously there's there's coaches who are going to be candidates as well but the the word that has been used by the bengals is recurring and again. You know my. I don't wanna say fear. Here's what i was really really hoping wouldn't be the case that they would say right. Ring of honor. Here's the deal these thirty guys. They're going in. There is a ring of honor. We're done like that wouldn't have been fun. That would have diluted the whole thing that would have wanted it down. I mean just to me you know. Having four guys allows for four different stories to be told for different people to be in the spotlight for different people to kind of get their moment for different people to make a brief speech or be a part of event. So i'm glad they're not doing it all in mass but yeah it's going to be done on a recurring basis. Should be should be good. Thirteen away from six. We'll get john. We'll get to brad and we'll get to you on. Espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sport station read. Don't play today. Take more phone calls at three minutes three minutes. John and gordon you're on. Espn fifteen thirty. How are you. i'm wonderful. how are you doing. I'm really really really really well. Good I haven't caught. I thought i'd share it with you number one because you have a very popular radio show in a lot of people listen to you. Did you say popular. I did okay. And everything's things relative also have connections with the bengals. I agree totally with you. That four players a year is going to take forever for them to get caught up My thought was and then. I'll hang up Why not do one player for each of the eight home games. That what you'd get eight people a year Just wanted to hear what you thought about it and thanks for taking my call completely on board. Thank you john completely on board. I don't know. I don't know what the logistics involved there are. I'm also going to get. We don't have the schedule. We know who they play. But we don't know when. I'm also going to guess that they would like like. I guess they don't want to do this for a steelers game or for when patrick mahomes comes some my guess is they would like to do the ring of honor game for a game in which they feel like the ceremony. Could maybe sell some tickets. And how much do you cut into that by doing it across eight games but yeah i would not be opposed to that at all i. I would wonder if the the argument against that is it. Waters down those ceremonies if you have eight of them but since you have so many players i would i would in an effort to sort of get some of these guys and get caught up if you will. I don't i don't think against. I would wonder what the logistics are behind and i'm sort of working through to my head. Is the music playing. It's time to go finished terrorists on the show tomorrow. Who determine stick around for that starting at three or five have a great night. This is espn fifteen thirty. Cincinnati sports station.

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Retiring Pro Football Hall of Fame executive director Joe Horrigan

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

59:43 min | 2 years ago

Retiring Pro Football Hall of Fame executive director Joe Horrigan

"Yeah. Welcome to the Peter King podcast. I tell you a little bit about the NFL and maybe a little bit too about life, and this week, it's going to be a special podcast because not only my going to have Joe Horrigan who just retired as the great historian of the pro football hall of fame and the man who according to John Madden knows more about professional football than any personal live, Joe Horrigan retired this month at age sixty seven I am going to do an exit interview with Joe Horrigan and we're going to have a lot of fun talking to Joe Horrigan, but first, a few thoughts about kind of an emotional day for me and emotional week. This is my last podcast for cadence thirteen. Many of you followed me for the last three years, and I really appreciate all of you who have done that following me to this podcast with my friends at cadence thirteen. This is my last podcast for cadence thirteen when I moved to NBC sports, fulltime, a year ago at the end of my contract at cadence thirteen NBC had told me that, hey, we're probably gonna want you to come and bring your podcast to us. So starting next month in mid July, I will be doing a podcast at NBC sports dot com. Hopefully, you'll come along with me. But that's not what this is about right here. I wanted to just reminisce just a little bit about my three years with these alternate great professionals at cadence thirteen. In fact, Chris Corcoran, who has been my boss. Cadence asked me to come over when I was still at Sports Illustrated, and Chris was the ultimate professional. He's a guy who knows the podcast business, so well at the time I was doing my podcast at Sports Illustrated for another company, and Chris came in and convinced me. And convince the people at Sports Illustrated that they were the ones to handle my podcast and everything that he said every single thing that he said he would do he did. And over the last three years, he and my producer for these shows Bob tablet, or. Have essentially taught me the podcast business. You know, Chris and Bob gave me some equipment. So when I would travel on the road at training camp, and I've done several games sort of live games that we turned into podcasts when, when they when we would do that. I never in my life traveled with, you know, a couple of microphones and my my tape recorder before. But they taught me how to do that. They taught me how to make everybody sound right in the middle of locker room how to hold the microphone close so you don't get a lot of you don't get a lot of lousy noise in there. But more than that, they basically taught me how to do a professional podcast. And I'm really, really grateful to them. I want to just tell a couple of stories about. What fun this is been working for cadence? And what fun it's Ben to really learn the podcast business over the last three years. So tell you one story Bob tablet, or my producer over the last three years. And I kind of got this idea, wouldn't it be fun to do some live games to actually go to games and figure out how to do a podcast at a game you interview, some people afterwards. And you know, I would do maybe six or eight interviews. I would do a couple of here. I am at Lincoln financial field. Remember we did a Monday night game with Washington and Philadelphia and afterwards all the median Philadelphia's looking at me because I'm over in the corner and I've got Carson Wentz and then I've got Doug Peterson. This is in the middle of their, their Super Bowl run. But I've got these guys alone. And so what was so interesting about doing these podcasts is basically, I would then transmit these interviews to Bob, tablet or, and I would essentially it would be that was a Monday night game. It would be may be to forty five AM in the press box at Lincoln financial field, I would have transmitted the interviews and I would go and find some very quiet spot where I'm not a bothering all the writers who are writing on deadline. Probably wasn't to forty five probably one forty five, and so I remember I did all of my sort of my bridges and my writing I sat down and wrote stuff, and I did it all in a stairwell at Lincoln financial field because I was conscious about really not disturbing the guys on deadline. I didn't want to be one of those radio guys who sat in a press box and said here we are Lincoln financial field and we've the eagles have just beaten. Washington, because that, that disturbs, everybody trying to write their stories. So I mean this is amazing. I probably would finish transmitting all of my stuff to Bob maybe at three fifteen. I would get in my car, and I drive back to my home in New York. And I'd go to sleep. I'd be exhausted. It'd be about five thirty and I would get up and I'd have about ten or fifteen comments on Twitter. Hey, love your podcast. Listen to it on the way to work. I mean think about that. I got this stuff to Bob, and it'll buy I don't know four or five o'clock, and he invented a podcast, so those were those are fun days. And I think what I really liked about that is that I am convinced that what we have to do in our business is, we have to give people information and interviews and stories where they can receive. Leave them. Okay. So if for instance, there's an eagles fan who wakes up and has a forty minute commute, you know, either by train, or by car, he doesn't have to wait to read the, you know, the Philadelphia daily news, Philadelphia Inquirer. Whatever his his morning paper is he can get a similar thing. Plus, he can hear twenty minutes of Doug Peterson and twelve minutes of Carson Wentz. And he can actually hear their voices talking to them about the big play of last night. And so, I learned a lot from that, that there are so many ways to tell stories in this business. And I thought that was just a tremendous fun educational for me and for listeners, and I really enjoyed that. I'll tell you my other story that I'll never forget doing this. And that is a week after the New England Atlanta Super Bowl when Tom Brady allowed me to. Interrupt his vacation in the middle of nowhere Montana. One of the loveliest places I've ever been to in my life. He just didn't want the exact location publicized. But, but anyway, so I went and met him. He had been skiing that morning and I went and met him. And we sat together for think it was about eighty six minutes. He held the microphone I held another microphone. And we just had a conversation about the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. And quite honestly, with what was on the line, in my opinion, the greatest comeback in football history, coming back from being down twenty eight to three in the Super Bowl, basically, with whatever twenty minutes to go in the game in Brady scored on every possession, the rest of the way and obviously, the patriots ended up winning Super Bowl. So I sat there with Brady and he just relived everything I had done my homework. Work. I knew exactly what to ask them. I knew some specific things because I had worked the locker room after the game. And so I knew quite a bit of what was going on. And, and I found something out that day that if you know, a lot going into the story going into talking to, you know, a player a key guy in a game if he knows that he's not just talking on the surface about stories that he knows that you know why certain things happened in that game than he is going to open up even more and it was truly one of the most fun interviews that I have ever done. And so what was cool about it is that we turned it into a two part podcast. And I also turned it, basically into a two-part column when I was still at Sports Illustrated, the m QB, but what I'll always remember about it is that so the internet. Service of in that area of the world is not good. And I had to drive about thirty miles before I could see any bars on my smartphone. And so Finally, I got into a little village, maybe about thirty minutes outside, and I was really worried because, you know, part of this podcast was gonna have to be we're going to have to sort of put this together, and I had to write my column to I to right? Eight thousand words. So, and it was maybe five o'clock in the afternoon out in Montana. So I had two of my staffers at the M QB, Kaelin keilor and Emily Kaplan, ready to transcribe the first half of this podcast for my column on Monday. So I found a little restaurant that had wifi and I was able to transmit it to them. I was able to transmit. Mitt the, the podcast Bob Tavender. And so he got it ready to be put out in podcast form and Calin and Emily without being paid without just because this was part of the job, they transcribed that afternoon each about forty minutes of tape. And by the time I sat down about five hours later where I was in position where I really needed that they, they had sent me every word of what Tom Brady said. And so it was the alternate example of teamwork and then the podcast came out, and what was so interesting about it is I was at the league meetings, NFL league meetings about six weeks later and Jason Garrett. The Cowboys stopped me in the hallway at the league meetings. And he said, I just wanna tell you. Your podcast with Tom Brady. I had everybody on my coaching staff, listen to that podcast because I said, this is what excellence is all about this is when you listen to Tom Brady speak, and you listen to how passionate he is about what he doesn't his job. You know, that is something, I'll never forget a lot of people in the league, listen to that. And anyway, it was just kind of cool thing. So this has been a great education over the last three years with a great company. Cadence thirteen. I'm not just I'm not blowing smoke. I'm serious. I never could have become remotely competent at podcasting without their help without Chris, corker in bringing me on board without the entire staff here, but particularly Bob tablet, or my producer who you know, I don't know. He's a great guy and he is done. Great, great work for. Me and I'll always be grateful to both of those guys for teaching me the podcast business. Now my conversation with Joe Horrigan. Back on the Peter King podcast. So happy to be joined by a man of leisure, Joe Horrigan who has just retired after forty two years as what I call the keeper of the flame pro football's historian, John Madden says that no one knows more about the National Football League and pro football in general than Joe Horrigan. Joe joined the pro football hall of fame in nineteen seventy seven as a curator and historian, and he basically climb the ladder to the executive director of the pro football hall of fame retired on June. First and. Just a couple of things about Joe and sort of the job that he did for those who follow the pro football hall of fame and follow, particularly the election. The selection process for the pro football hall of fame. I've been a selector for almost thirty years, and Joe that whole time, basically has been when we get in that room on the Saturday before the Super Bowl every year, Joe, basically combines roles is the guy who reminds us all of the what I'd call the Robert's rule of rules of order for the pro football hall of fame. What can be used what, what shouldn't be used and he's also just an encyclopedic guy about all things pro football. But anyway, I wanted to get Joe in and I'm gonna do. Do what I might call an exit interview with Joe Horrigan, and I'm very, very happy to have him, Joe. Thank you eater. I'm so happy to be with you. And you know, I never thought of it before. But I may have performed a bureaucrat miracles getting forty six members of video of follow Robert's rules. Well, as you know, what's so interesting about that day Joe. Why don't we start there? You know, I, I have been it has been one of the honors of my professional life to sit in that room with such a. You know, such a such an important job and the gravity of the job is never lost on me, because I realize what entering the pro football hall of fame means. But I wonder if you could describe to people listening your role on the Saturday before the Super Bowl when we have an eight nine ten hour pro football hall of fame selection meeting, and what's it like in that room? For me. Peter, as you know, you know, the selection process for the hall of fame as year round process. We do reduction voting in all the way through the, the year prior to the meeting. But the, the, the work that goes into it the final results, and really the rubber hits the road in that meeting at so important. Unlike most socks and processes, not just for sports. But other honors rarely do you have that many people for sure that actually meet and debate, the merits of the candidates? So in that room, you know, you've got a lot of emotion. Got guys and, and women that are emotionally attached to somebody's candidates in the sense of, you know, they covered their careers, they know them personally, and they have, you know, some some skin in the game this in a sense. Right. And then there's also that the fact that, you know, everybody talks about in that room know we're going in with eighteen finalists three. Let's start with the fifteen modern era finalists than. Rotating? Off even year to contributors than one senior to seniors one computer with any case, there was eighteen finalists, you know, we say that the bar is so high who's gonna come out of this, you know, this, it group of eighteen and I always think to myself, you know, the bar is based on those eighteen in the room. It's the guys that are already elected to the hall of fame, that's where the bar set. So these guys in the room are among the elite of the game being considered to join the best ever. So that is a really, really tough thing for you. Guys to determine decide. And to me, I use this story all the time Peter, and I think it really to me, summarize, what I think you guys feel and that was years ago, lend Pasco, I'm sorry, munch appear. And I were walking out limbo time Washington Post sportswriter, and at the time were eat. We're walking out he felt that we have elected a full slate because, as you know, we don't know the results until the accountants, hands, the, which we open. A live television. But any case, we're walking out of the room together, and lend says bigger Joe ISIS? I should feel really good. I think we just elected, eight people to the pro football hall of fame, I feel terrible. We left ten behind, and that to me kinda summarizes, the dilemma that you're, you're going through while you're in there, trying to stow, the greatest honor pro football has on select group, the emotion and the in the emotional drain that ten our meeting is such that you can't really fully appreciate how good you're making the ones that are elected feel because you're kinda focused on the ones that got left behind it. Perhaps even your guys so to speak that you disappointed in that respect. So it's a really mixed emotion day. And as you know, there's a lot of back and forth on, you know, whether it's the timing is riper particular candidate or should he fall further behind the queuing. There's all sorts of things to be considered. So it's. The motion rotation. We don't get any breaks during that meeting. You know, when we do, it's, it's, you know, gosh, feel exhausted, you know, I- Joe, what I try to tell people and I'm glad you brought up Len Shapiro over the years, I, because I believe that. And look, there's a lot of different sort of philosophies about when people leave the room, some members of the, the, the forty eight selectors some will openly say, yes, here's the guy voted for. I did not vote for this guy. And so, and I always felt that if people asked me, I am happy to tell him, I think I know it to them to say, I voted for Tony Boselli over Steve Hutchinson or whatever, whatever it is. Okay. And so for a few years, I did not vote for Art Monk and. And I told people exactly why I just felt like when I covered the NFC st- for four years in the this was in the glory days of Gibbs parcels in Washington, and New York, and Dallas and, and all that. And, and I, I just always will remember that the New York Giants, they really weren't that concerned about Art, Monk hair, concerned about Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders. Those are the guys that they really end whoever the running back was they had a few of them. And so I said that, that says something to me, and I know he caught a lot of balls and everything, but I'm, I'm not on site. And so one year, I had been very bullish on the candidacy of Harry Carson, the middle linebacker, the giants. Because I was around that team all the time, and I saw how important Harry Carson was to that team on the field and off. I always thought he was almost like a second defensive coordinator next Bill Belichick. So I'll never forget this. You know, one year during the meeting, you know, we're not allowed to talk about what we say in the meetings, but, but lend Shapiro came up to me afterwards. And he said, you know how you always talk about Harry, Carson. And how many things he did other than just play middle linebacker. He you know, he was the leader on the field during the week. He was the most important guy in that locker room. And he was so important to that little mini giants dynasty. With everything that he did. And I said, yeah, that's, that's my fervent belief and lend. Shapiro said to me that is exactly what Art Monk was to Washington. And so I I've always prided myself on the fact that. I never say never about any candidate whether it be Ray guy or Art Monk, or any of the guys over the years, who why haven't really supported, you know, initially. And, and so I changed my vote. I ended up voting for Art Monk. But I tell that story, only because my belief and Joe you can speak to what it was like in the late seventies early eighties. I was not a voter, then but I've heard stories over the years that there was definitely a couple of blocks in their, the old AFL media guys, and the NFL media guys, and the AFL said, well, listen, if you guys aren't voting for Len Dawson. We're not voting for Bart star. And I, I'm just I'm exaggerating. I don't I don't know or any of that. But, but essentially, I've heard those stories and you know what I say, I, I don't. See that, you know, that's true. And you know, peer that the truth of the matter is, and I say this with all respect for the selectors over the years, but as the game became more sophisticated, and I say sophisticated in the sense that it's really has, you know, they just call it, you know, the, the evolution of the game has evolved to the point where we get to see as point this out here. You can see any pro football game anytime, anywhere is available in so many platforms in the early years. You know, you have a, you know, in our daily come from Green Bay. And frankly, the only games are soft. We're Green Bay Packer games because he traveled with the team during the season. He was the home games during the you know, obviously the rest of the season. So during the course of the season, the opponents, he was he certainly. But if they were AFC team, he sure is acting see them. So there wasn't that solid same. Base of, of observation, you know, the eye bolt has we call it right. That there is today. So the were more if you if you would biases you know, because you were limited in terms of what you saw firsthand the highlight clips. So I, I really think that the selectors have an advantage today, because they do you have pro football twenty four seven three hundred sixty five days a year. So the opportunity to get a fair judgment on the candidates as much better. So when you had, you know, particularly AFL NFL real years after the merger there were still some wounds to be healed between the media that represented the two rival leagues. And there were the biases because they were, you know, writing at one weight. And frankly one league didn't watch the other league nearly as much you know. So yeah, some of that went on. We always tried even back then to try to. Eliminate as best we could you can't legislate minds, but you can set ground rules and say, look, it's up to you to do your homework to listen to observe and to as best you can be impartial. It's a difficult thing to do. It's easy to say but I just summary. I guess what? I'm trying to say is that today because of the evolution of technology and the game in the way they're linked together that the litmus test if you will is much. I'm with Joe Horrigan, the outgoing executive director of the pro football hall of fame worked at the hall for forty two years. Joe in nineteen ninety two I believe it was, I was still pretty much greenhorn at Sports Illustrated. And I was asked in one off season early on in my career there will if I would like to basically take my off season to write a pro football history, book that Sports Illustrated with then us as a in those days, it was called a subscription premium sign up to get sl for two years. And you get this pro football history book. So we're going to do all the research and writing one year, and then the following year it was going to be out. So I said, man, I would love to do it and you're paying me to go sit in the archives in. Canton. Ohio for six days, soak up every bit of knowledge that, that I can, and it was almost like taking a masters class in pro football history in part because you were the professor, you were the one who basically showed me, okay? Look, you wanna know what happened with, you know, the founding of professional football in nineteen. Twenty here's all the documents we have on it. Here's some old stories about it from the canton, repository in nineteen twenty here's it, you know, blah, blah, blah. And you would you'd just basically shepherded me all the way through, and I remember going back home and telling people at Sports Illustrated. I said, I, I mean you know, there's a lot of research material there. But what was really amazing was really how much Joe Horrigan knows that either. It. Wasn't written down anywhere. But and if it was I couldn't find it. But, but I said, this guy's amazing. He knows more about professional football than anybody, and so- Joe, I really want you just cert- approve this. I feel like you know, I'm. You know, I'm, I'm sort of put you on the spot a little bit here. But you told me a story back then about a road trip that the Green Bay Packers took I believe in nineteen thirty late in the season in which they played the New York Giants, the Frankford yellow jackets. The precursor to the Philadelphia Eagles. Frankford was a, a little town outside of Philadelphia. And also, they played a team on Staten Island and you told me about this road trip of a professional sports team. And I simply couldn't believe it, so I'm gonna give you the floor. And I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you to tell America about the Green Bay Packers road trip late in the nineteen thirty season. You know what's great about that is it was very typical of what was going on in mostly more in the in the twenties, but a little later, because Frank for was playing in Pennsylvania which had blue laws, which meant they didn't play football pro football on Sundays. So they would play on Saturdays. So you had a team like the Packers and again, they were even small market in the day era of the small bark and NFL that would travel and they could pick up a game in Frankfurt on a Saturday and then move on and hit New York for a game or two in the case of Staten Island jump jump across and play a game with the giants re really came down to getting that Saturday game followed by a Sunday game followed by the next week again maybe a Saturday game against another blue laws team or Sunday game. So that's, that's really what was going on. And it wasn't uncommon and you even had traveling. Versus the Chicago Bears. This is a getting off track a little bit. But the Chicago Bears rarely went on the road back that they would stay at home in play their games home games because this small city teams could make more money, traveling to the large venue in Chicago than to have the bears come to them and play in their, you know, their twenty five hundred liters. So that was really what was going up back in those days looking at the schedule finding those teams that had similar similar circumstances. A one of the ways of doing it was Pottsville, which was in Pennsylvania's, well, pasta and Frankfurt teams would come in and play them back to back. Saturday Sunday and then go back home on a Sunday night and you know, pick up their, their schedule back home. So it wasn't unusual thing. Peter, it was just one of those ways the NFL up, they had traveling teams that didn't play at home at all the Duluth eskimos played rarely home the ring Indians in two years, played one home game and it really wasn't old game. They did have a home field. They played in the neighboring larour Hieaux. So it was just just the way it was it was. Do you, do you remember the, the little the little stories of 'bout about weapon about how they traveled and, and about how you told me this one story? They were playing in Staten Island on a Sunday. And they took a bus to the Staten Island ferry. They, they took the ferry across right? And pick up the story. Well, you know, and they would again, we think of, of stadium's locker rooms and everything was in uniform. Right. You know, travel uniform, and then when the ferry had to walk it was what we're you know, they didn't have travel Joe. I looked it up Joe. I looked it up and that field was approximately one mile from the Staten Island ferry. So imagine they got. On the Staten Island, the Green Bay Packers got on the Staten Island ferry in uniform, and when, when the ferry gut to the doc on Staten Island, they got off and they all walked one mile to the field. They played the game. And they walked back to the Staten Island ferry waited for it got the train back, our got the gut the ferry back, took a bus back to their hotel and the next day that was that, that was the last game of their three day road trip. The other part of it that you told me that was absolutely hilarious. Is that when they went and played in Frankford, they I think you told me this, or I might have read it, but they dressed in a firehouse in Frankfurt and, and then and went over to the field and played after dressing in a firehouse right near the field. We'll give you one bit of the Frankford yellow jackets. You know, we all know the Green Bay Packers or publicly team will. So with the Frankford yellow jackets, they were sponsored by the Frankfurt American Legion. They were nonprofit team, the revenues went right back into three different charities. But all sponsored by the American Legion. And there was a wooden Bleacher stadium actually caught fire at one point. So yeah, it it was a different time. Peter. And you know what when we talk about walking that mile walking back, I can guarantee you manager, the Packers kirwin that boat which probably carrying the gate receipts with them, too. Support for the Peter King podcast comes from wicks dot com. 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I became convinced that you cannot talk about the top ten players in NFL history. Without talking about three players from the first twenty five years of NFL history. Number one Sammy Baugh in nineteen I think forty two. He led the National Football League in passing in punting, and as a safety pin interceptions. So if you talk about a great year that somebody had like, oh my God. Dan Marino threw for five thousand eighty four yards. Big deal. I mean Sammy ball at the NFL at passing punning and defensively in interceptions one year. So he's one. My second. One is Otto Graham. And again, this, this is a little bit beyond the first twenty five years, because this goes to the first thirty five years, because he started his professional football career in the mid forties, and played only ten years. But what I always say to people, they say, why do you rank auto Graham so high I always say because he played professional football for ten years in each one of the ten years. He quarterbacked his team to the championship game and his team won the championship game seven out of those ten years. And in addition, he led his league four out of those ten years in passing. And then finally, Don Hudson, a wide receiver who when he retired in the twenty fifth season of professional football history when he retired he had caught three times as many passes for three times as many yards for three times, as many touchdowns as any receiver in the first twenty five years of pro football and his record of ninety nine touchdown catches was not broken for forty four years until Steve large broke it in nineteen eighty nine and Joe they're still records that have been broken. He had twenty nine and a quarter once. Well, when you start saying that even the great Jerry Rice hasn't broken all on Hudson's records yet. You're saying a lot. But you and I have those same three and I throw another guy in there is is one of the guys that has one of the most versatile players ever to play the game. I'm not sure I put him in, you know, the top three all time, but I just love this guy's versatility. And that was built Dudley. He also was like Sammy ball, won the triple crown for his case he was a halfback but he won. The league is in nineteen forty six for NFL rushing interceptions and punt returns, but he actually had a fourth category, which she led, which is easy. Only player ever have done this to lead and forced physical categories. And that was in lateral passes attempted. It's not even in the record book anymore because they'll be used us. The lateral pass as the tick. But the other. Thing that I would mention about Bill is Bill scored during his career nine different ways, and most people came to name nine ways in which you can score, but he scored rushing passing. Receiving kickoff return punt return fumble recovery gonna draw blank. Interceptions. And what did I skip? What about safety? No be never had a safe. The only way he did not score. You never have safety. The punt returns kick returns. I'm not even sure. It did. Yeah. You double recovery yet. Anyway, there's nine of them and I usually read a little off. But I'm drawing Lincoln were which ones. I mentioned that didn't mention so you talk about versatility. He was that. Now Sammy Baugh. You know, again, you know, this is a guy that played both a t formation, a single win so that to his credentials. Well, and, you know, auto Graham I grew up, my father was a sportswriter and covered the all America Football Conference out of buffalo. We worked for the United Press and growing up as a kid, I thought two people walked on water auto Graham, and Mary motley just from the stories my father would tell, but I don't know who I did get to know pretty well, one of these guys that was just a in addition to a big a great leader. You know you mentioned ten seasons ten championship games. He was such a great student of the game. And such a see the perfect quarterback for Paul Brown. Oh, jeez. Yes. Because he. He loved it. Hated told Brown because auto was a perfectionist. And so it was Paul. And you put two perfectionist together, and there's going to be conflict. What would I say about what would auto say? In his later years of Paul, he would say, you know, he would say things like Paul Brown. You know, I you know, I love the guy but, you know, you know, he just didn't let me do this, or do that or whatever. But, you know is he would be he would remind himself, but we want so must have been a good relationship. Paul was not an emotional guy in the sense of the warm and fuzzy guy and I think that's what was maybe searching for a little bit. A little more. Go Jolla auto slap on the back. Right. And that wasn't his demeanor at all. That's what people have told me that, that Chuck knoll and Paul Brown were a lot of like in that way. You know, then no, you're never gonna get. Hey, great job. Huzzah, wonderful. Yep. Well, you know, the, the one variation in that I think it when Paul Brown showed emotion and not publicly, but later reflection, I think yeah was in nineteen fifty one, the all America Football Conference, which Paul began his career with the Cleveland Browns and forty six they were competing against the National Football League for four years and the Browns under Paul won the league title four consecutive years. Well, their first game after they merged with the NFL nineteen fifty was going to be against two-time, reigning, NFL, champions, the Philadelphia Eagles, now Paul Brown tried to downplay this people were calling it the World Series of football September sixteen I think of Saturday night first game of the year. Yeah. And, and fact, they even it was the only game being played on Saturday night to open season because they know Bert bell to cushion new, the great attention would draw having these two champions compete against each other. And I'm sure. Bell was hoping that the Philadelphia Eagles would win. Not only was he the founder of the Philadelphia Eagles before he became the Commissioner. But he was the Commissioner of the league that, that the all in Philadelphia. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So, you know, all that setting up this scenario where Paul Brown is coming in Mr. shoe, -bility. You know anybody can win in, you know, we don't know if we're gonna even get blown off the fear, but we're gonna go out. We won't bears or something he knew he was gonna win Paul Brown. In a got a hold of a scouting films and watch the gays eagles played took every play the and dissect it and ran the guys ragged preparing for this game where greasy Neale that coach the eagles probably took the Brown's a little too lately, and any case they went out and they manhandled the eagles and one now for Paul Brown. Do you know this is where supposedly and I can't verify this Peter, but this is supposedly where they act like you've been there before remark was me. Was after that game as he said, you know, to the players in the locker room control yourself. He'll act like gentlemen, play, we've been here before which they had those champions, but any case, you know, he controlled himself until reflecting later. And he was saying that, that game at more to him because have after four years of being called minor leaguers, by the NFL the taken to lately by the eagles and being put on Saturday night in the in the hopes I'm sure he was thinking that they would get manhandled by the NFL says it was just the most rewarding gaming ever played and then went onto win NFL championship that you're too is the Los Angeles Rams making all all the more sweet Joe. How much there's no coach Bill Belichick. Admires more in NFL history, than Paul Brown. How much are they alike? You know, there's, there's a real similarity in their demeanor. You know, they take their trade very, very seriously. They're great prepares. You know, they Bill Belichick, visit anything he hasn't seen thought about or prepare for Paul Brown was the same way add to that Paul even came up with the innovations that were later adapted by the league. He had radio receivers his quarterback's helmet nineteen fifty four and it was ruled illegal, but, you know, so he was he was a head of the curve on Costa quarterback communication. You know, he just did things always looking at the getting the at, and I think, Bill tick is the same way and you know, you'll, you'll find that, you know, criticism is often leveled against great competitors. And I think that might have been the case with Bill and Paul that folks fell victim to their preparation, and they're looking for that edge might have misinterpreted. It's. Sometimes the other thing have is cute story of mentioned out, grim, Paul Brown and one of the players that was on Brown's squad. Was this young guy from John Carroll university? Don shula. He was defensive back and only two rookies made the Browns squad that year was Carl taffeta and Don Shula. And they were both from John Carroll and it was during the training camp. Don Shula's, worried. He's not gonna make the team and he's trying real hard to oppress, his coach who doesn't show emotion, and he's out there on the play playing field. And the play is coming at him. Marrying motley carrying the ball, Paul Brown. Standing behind the office of backfield watch and motley as, as a load and pull broker. Sorry tells the story I see Mutley coming at, you know, picking oh my God. Please help me so he says I've made a decision take him head on is just. Buried my head just Rodham down. Tackling was so proud of myself, I jumped up as in Paul Brown yells out, nice tackle tests. It's still is Shula to which Brown and only Brown could say at the way he did. And said, I'll try to remember that Shula. That's excellent. That really is good. You know, think about it. You know, Chuck knoll Don Shula coming out of the, you know, the Paul Brown coaching tree and play or played for them. You know, you see whether their personalities developed you think about Shula in the pulled around this kind of the same way that rain area. I was always prepared very similar Joe. What's your favorite era, in pro football history? You know, mind is, was the twenties because it was a call virgin territory when I started here at the hall really nothing that very seriously documented. So it was a lot of going back and recreating standing that the league I actually had them add teams to their to the rosters that they didn't even know where members of the National Football League. So, you know, that was, you know, just how meetings, give me an example of how you're able to do that. Take me into the fact finding how it happened. And you know there's a difference between team in a franchise. You know, a franchise the right to operate is basically certificate. And what I did is I was fortunate enough to get a full set of the NFL's meeting minutes, which, you know, had been looked at and studied and I went through each of, at the meetings, they would they would be summaries would be detailed meeting minutes, but they would list the attendees, and they would also stipulate you know, franchises applied for an entry into the into the NFL and has accepted. Well, then you would go out, and that would be your primary source you go back out and find the secondary support of that. And, you know, you go to find the usually small towns paper, which these teams came from and indeed, they were team or league members, the tunnel wanna car decks played one game in the National Football League. But we're granted a franchise. The league no idea they existed. They're, you know, others that they had Muncie. I believe it was that they the missed in nineteen twenty. So it was, you know, it was just going back and. Putting it together. And no. The Washington senators another team that existed the New York Giants before the New York Giants that we're familiar with. They were all granted franchises in played games in, in the NFL. But what was confusing? The first year that the NFL had a record book thanking thirty four. So the league around since nineteen twenty so they were going back and kind of painting things together. And, and if the team didn't finish the season, it looked as though they had never been a member. Where, where in fact, they were so it was just a matter of taking time, pre putting the pieces of the puzzle together, but it was always, you know, my favorite ever to look at, and it was such a romantic era, too. We're talking about the warring twenties red Grange coming into pro football and what, you know, dynamic shift that caused and the popularity of the sport and teams like, you know, the Chicago Bears George Halas it was the it was the most in my mind. The most romantic. I'll use that word again era pro football in the sense that they were young sportsmen owners who were trying to make a go of it some failed. Some Joe is you sit back now. And think back of all the people all the men have entered the pro football hall of fame. Who was say the most emotional, the most grateful the happiest when he got in the pro football hall of fame. Well, you know, there's so many people, it's so hard over Ford. Twitter's single out any one person you've seen it, even, you know, in the quote, Alex Karras as book, even big guys cry. You know, it was it is the case. And so often you see, but there were in typically the guys that are probably the most emotion at the emotional time are the ones that weeded longer typically senior candidate who gets elected and mean so much to them. But I've seen it a kind of reverse itself to where a player like gene Hickerson, who was elected to the hall of fame and was in the state of dementia at the time when his teammates, Jim Brown, LeRoy Kelly Bobby Mitchell, who gene Hickerson their lead blocker when they pushed him in there is wheelchair up to the podium to acknowledge the of the crowd gene suddenly looked up and saw. His son and acknowledged that he recognized. That was in emotional moment for me that, you know, there was, you know for the three guys that appreciate a jeans, you know work on the field for them. It was really emotional. So there there were great moments like that, that, you know, I look back unfortunately, I know Jean-Philippe reshaped, what was going on. But the see him, all of a sudden recognizes Saad that moment and those three guys that he blocked for, for so many years and made them hall of famers. That was really, really moving. You remember the old receiver for the eagles? Tommy mcdonald. How happy he was Tommy, Tommy was gosh. I was telling the story that two days ago, but Tommy was such an emotional guy. Where's emotions on the when we call them we used to call them live on a, you know, NFL network. And if they were in the Super Bowl city, we bring out of the set, and, you know, at the press conference he'd be there will wasn't in the Super Bowl, so we call him at his home. And we put him on speakerphone. And I thought I dialed a fax machine because it was a square with number. But that it was him crying. But then when he comes canton, you know, for his enshrinement ceremony, he's backstage with me, and, you know, this is get the front steps of the hall of fame walks. He's walking toward he's got this big grocery bag with something in it. And I said, Tommy oh, it's surprises. I don't like surprises. Don't surprise, please nonetheless, he goes out there with grocery bag and one of his term to step to the podium. He pulls out of his grocery bag, a big, boom box, and he puts it on the podium, a his play the BG's and staying alive to which he starts dancing to stage paying. I'm staying alive on, you know. And he says the crowd is no I've been said, I've got great hands. So he picks up his bronze bust, which weighs about thirty pounds. Throws it up and catches it does that twice. And each time he goes, my heart in my mouth. So he then proceeds to think he's going to chess Bom the rest of his classmates and going down. The line chess pooping with everybody, Mike, single Terry, it, the Anthony Munos, you know, six seven times five foot nine Anthony's chest is a lot higher. And when he bumped Anthony's waste. He flies backwards lands on his rear end. So that was Comey McDonald's show, and then he comes back stage and says, what did you think Tommy, first time you through the bust? I said a prayer that you would catch. It second time I said a prayer that it landed on your hit. He understood humor, so it was okay, but yeah, he was he was. I would call him a character, but a loving character the guy had nothing but appreciation for the game. And he just loved it. They have fun. And Lamar hunt was sitting in the front row. And I'm thinking, oh my goodness. Lamar's gotta think this is terrible. He said it was the best tribe. She ever saw. Wow. Joe one. One of thing I'm curious about. I've always thought that baseball has its baseball has its revered characters in history. Babe, Ruth, and Lou, Gehrig and tie Cobb. Maybe not revered. But at least extremely well known and football really is, never had the sort of reverence for history that particularly baseball has had maybe some other sports like boxing. So why is that? And what do you think will happen in this one hundred season of professional football to affect that? Well, here's way, I think it happens and we say it all the time football is the ultimate team sport. And as you know, if you're really a good teammate, then you're diverting. Attention and your cluding those that participate in making the team grade. So I think that the verts from some of the individuals stardom, if you will, that, that we have for some of the, you know, the grace of baseball, or boxing, or more indivi- individualistic, so I think that's part of the dilemma, plus we wear helmets and pro football see the guys and when I had mentioned earlier about, you know, how our selectors in the early days really only followed or so one or two teams or they one of their opponents on a regular basis baseball paid a lot more games. And so you saw a lot more teams and things like that. And, and frankly, was covered much more thoroughly by sports publications of the day. So that to me is why there aren't that many Connex stars of the game, I will then tell you that Johnny United's and Jim Rohn, you know, hushed the crowd in any. Room ever walked into, but they, they were the exceptions, you know, certainly Don Hudson. We're playing today he'd be much better known but still it would be talking about the quarterback. That's throwing the ball lineman were bucking for the quarterback because it is a team sport. Jorgen the spend a lot of fun. I appreciate it. Appreciate your friendship. And you're one of the great things about you, as a professional at your job is that you are. You're the, the definition of sort of a service, individual anytime. I would call anytime anyone of one hundred friends of mine who cover professional football would call you'd get back to him same day. And the encyclopedia would just sort of roll out of your mouth and anyway. I thought you had a really good. I was at your retirement dinner a month ago. And I thought you had a really interesting point to make, and I think it is absolutely totally true that, you know because John Madden had told me and he said to you the same thing. Hey, listen. You Joe Horgan can't retire. We can't replace them. We can't. I mean, there's nobody out there who has the institutional knowledge, Joe, you can't retire, which, obviously, John Madden said to you, and you said at your retirement dinner. I've got these guys who've been behind me and who've been with me, you know, for many years, and they're ready, they're ready to come off not even the bench, but they're ready to come off their, their roles and to now be a put into starring roles. And I thought it was. It's really not just an unselfish thing to say, but I think it's a realistic thing to say none of us live forever. None of us go on forever. And I thought that you were not only selfless in what you said, but also quite realistic. Trying to be sincere to the -portant thing with is the guys that, you know, that I work with every day here worked with. There's another ingredient that they have that will make them successful that is that they have a passion for the game. They have been here, a long time. These aren't rookies and the rookies left. You know, I need I didn't stay because have a passion to be here and to do what we do on a day-to-day basis, you have to love it, or you're not gonna succeed. So the fact that they've succeeded says to me that they love it, and they'll continue continue to carry the flame. And that's, that's a very good feeling for me because there's nothing more teachers are always most proud of their students, not what they accomplished not what the teachers accomplish. But what the teachers are with their students have. So that's, that's how I feel about these guys that are gonna, you know, you'll be calling them some day. Hopefully. Calling them next week. Next week. I want to replace it already. It's been a pleasure talking to you insert of debriefing you and I know we'll keep in touch, but all the best to you in retirement. Thank you very much. Patrons been such a pleasure working with you. All these years. 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NPR News: 03-13-2020 8PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 03-13-2020 8PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. Many hospitals are welcoming President Trump's declaration of a national emergency today emburey. Martin Kosta has more in the declaration from Seattle and area hard hit by the krona virus hospitals here already feeling a strain from the rising tide of Corona virus and trump's declaration was overdue. Good news to Cassie Sour. Hit The Washington State Hospital Association Yay Yay Yay Yay. The national declarations emergency hospitals are very highly regulated type of organization and they most of the time should be but in this case. There needs to be flexibility. Hospitals are now seeking waivers to reroute suspected Cova nineteen patients away from their ers to other screening sites. They also want smaller rural hospitals to be allowed to treat more patients for longer periods of time to keep some of the pressure off the bigger cities. Martin Kosti. Npr News Seattle House Speaker. Nancy Pelosi Santa Letter two house. Democrats saying she has reached a deal with the trump administration on a bill providing assistance to those impacted by the corona virus includes two weeks of paid sick leave nutrition assistance and financial help for states from Medicaid. President trump has reportedly signed off on the measure according to sources familiar with those discussions Republicans on Capitol Hill were wedding for the president's approval before taking a vote. Pelosi said the house will begin work on a third bill protect the health economic security and well being of the American People Louisiana says it is delaying its April fourth presidential primary in an effort to slow the spread of the corona virus. Paul Brown of member station W. K. F. reports. It's the first state in the nation to do so secretary of State Kyle said a new primary date of June twenty. He didn't rule out an expansion of mail in voting but said it's unlikely that the state could pull that off in time. Louisiana has postponed elections before most notably in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Gustav. The state has three million registered voters and more than two thousand polling locations a handful of which earned senior centers and nursing homes on top of that. Art Wayne says more than half of the state. Poll workers are over the age of sixty five putting them at greater risk if they were to develop cove in nineteen for NPR news. I'm Paul Brown and Baton Rouge Delta Airlines says it is cutting passenger capacity by forty percent deal with a sharp fall off and travel demand is also said to be in talks with the White House and Congress about assistance to get through the current downturn linked to the corona virus. Cutting flights is the largest in the airline's history surpassing even the travel downturn after the September eleventh terrorist attacks stocks after bouncing around a good bit managed to hold onto some of their gains after nearly ten percent. Plunge yesterday the steepest since the black Monday crash of nineteen eighty seven all three of the major stock market indices up with a nine percent today the Dow jump one thousand nine hundred eighty five points this is. Npr Canada's says it is shutdown parliament and is advising against all non essential travel outside the country. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is governing remotely from his home where he's in self imposed quarantine. That's after Trudeau's wife tested positive for the corona virus candidates health minister in addition to advising more social distancing no handshakes and no kisses also advising against large public gatherings foodbanks say. They are making plans to help students who usually receive free and reduced meals at schools. That may now close Katie Black Louis. The member station. W. Espn Pittsburgh has that story. Greater Pittsburgh Community foodbank spokeswoman Beth burrow says operations are currently normal but his concern over corona virus rises. It has increased cleaning efforts at its facilities or making sure that we're asking volunteers to do the same and just making sure that everybody who's helping. Those distribution are completely healthy burrow says monetary donations are more needed than canned goods at this time according to federal data about eleven million children in the US lack reliable access to healthy food for NPR news. I'm Katie Blackley. In Pittsburgh as people begin receiving their twenty twenty cents is forms in the mail. The Census Bureau is also again hiring army of temporary employees to help conduct the once a decade national headcount. The bureau says it's reached its goal of more than two point. Six million applicants for positions is aiming to hire about five hundred thousand. People Carlo unemployment rate however is apparently hampering efforts someone in many many rural areas including New England and some Rocky Mountain states bureau also has yet to account for how hiring will be affected by the corona virus. I'm Jack Speer. Npr News in Washington.

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Hour 3: 5/5/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

36:48 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3: 5/5/20

"But cried passion and patron tree of college. Football Leaves Keer the Paul Finebaum. Show our three podcast. We welcome back. Second-half this show is live and more phone calls continuing and a couple of guests as well herald is in. Athens are Hello Herald. Good afternoon Harold. This is me. Yeah go right ahead. Great to have you on I Love Don Shula. Got To meet him. I think If you recall Pol you and I are about the same age I think. I got the museum in Savannah Georgia the quarterback club. The dolphins had done something but I have to mention Vince. Lombardi what would you think we'd put him on the? What do you call it up there? Yeah I think both of them up there I would. I would I would. Yeah I think she would certainly many believe you. Who's the greatest coach I would I would i. Would I would be hard pressed to put anyone ahead of Vince? Lombardi though well the great thing about some bars you'll see as a youngster. I think I was like what about ten years old. And he said what do you do? I said well I try to do well in school and get somebody said he goes do well in school but do well to say what position do you play said anywhere you would play me? That's I'm sorry I loved about some Barton. Shoe I think was more of a wooden. You say Shula as more of the man that would like He would he would be a game man but Lombardi was the motivator yeah no I. Don't think anyone comparison Bardia coach. I don't know very much about as Paul Brown. I here I've read enough about him. He is in that Bryant. You Got Paul Brown. So that's before you got four a it would be again. It's probably easier for the sake of everyone of you. Talk versus pro but in pro football. Yeah George Halas was also on that list in the NFL. I mean you better be careful but internally I would have to say Belch Ed Bella checks on that list as well to motivate people to play in the cold weather. George meals must've been something. Well it's good to see you mean the only thing I can add on is You know I'm down here in Athens Georgia and There evidently claiming they're going to be playing in the fall I can't see it in the dorms. I'm a professor I personally but that's like you said it's up to the administrators. Let me ask you this Herald and and I'm not talking about the tweets go out that says you know we'll start if this or that. I mean but you you. You've been there awhile. What are you hearing behind the scenes? Well personally Paul I'm turning sixty two which I think is your age And I heard you talk about Social Security I. I've decided to retire. Oh my God I'm not GonNa deal with any of this. I think it's I think I think it's ridiculous Personally I think that Paula Man's and you know all I can tell you is all I know is I traveled to Italy. Lot and There was evidently this Italian soccer game. That just yeah absolutely. Yeah that's what I that's personally. It has nothing to do with Actually has nothing to do with this in February. I just decided Paul I've been working for forty years and I don't have to keep working. I I have no unlike you. I don't have to support any family or really I really but I'm really nervous about this. I probably will continue to live in happens but I I actually don't i. I don't even WanNa go in touch anything on campus but no it's weird. I had somebody deliver to to my house today. It was for work and everybody Everybody had mass on. And it's the real thing. Paul my dad who is Who's now gone with us? But he he actually sold products that. Yeah you would it. Would that solve surfing? I just of my God. What would you use that for? When I was a kid and he'd be a he'd be a genius man. Well go for Paul. But Hey we'll we'LL HERALD. Stay in touch and George Halas we've got George Halas. We've got Vince Lombardi. We got Don Shula and the bear Bryant. And I'M GONNA put Paul Brown there as well. Okay okay well pro pro okay so we off that one. We'll put the bear on Alpine himself so definitely in the college list Ba Harold Harold. You left out a guy that's only one six superbowls. Who's the Bill Belichick? Oh Yeah Yeah those modern guys you know. I'm like you fall but the one thing you will remember is getting is we beat Paul Bear Bryant. Twenty one up and when I was a freshman. That's my final question. You Herald what what are you going to do with now that you're you're not teaching. Well I was going to travel a lot in Italy but evidently not but I was going to fly fish down in Florida And so Florida won't let us in yet. I've been going up to Helen's awarded I have my little Bianchi bicycle and I go up and down the hills a lot and And cost me two dollars to park there. So is a pretty inexpensive. I I've actually. I may actually have the best retirement in the world because I I just I drive a costing now I. What a dollar thirty six cents. An hour or anything. I ride up and down the hill. It's a cheap. It's cheap day. Hey I like it Web come back listen to you guys. Let me on lately because I've I've been asking him. Will you let me on this? Well yeah and I said well you know. I really can't complain much about Auburn. 'cause I'm you know we're going beat him next year cause you stay in touch with people but Paul is Complain About Florida? I never complain about Florida because we always beat them now the spurrier. What is Siv spurrier doing that now? That's the question that should be asked what's he doing? Now he's He's an ambassador for the University of Florida wherever that and look what they're getting. I'll tell you When we add all the stories about Steve Spurrier and now we can't tell on but we'll tell him next year. Stay in touch from Twenty Herald. You got great friend very much. My pleasure All the best in retirement Roy is up next in Tennessee. Roy Hey there thanks. Thanks for finally picking up buddy. I've been lost on that blank. Screen ears there for good. Wow Wow I'm glad Glad we found you. Listen I got a couple of questions. I'd like to get your input on. I'm live in northeast Tennessee. And I'm a Lifetime Alabama fan so roll tide there. We'll get that out of the way. Listen you know. I know the teams you know. I mean I'm just trying to figure out a way amount hit which I don't mean nothing but I was just GonNa throw that out there and get. Your opinion. Couldn't at the conferences. You know mean you're gonNA spend a month or two of conditioning getting the players in shape. Somebody gets hurt out there and stuff but if they would let them back on the campus and Kinda Corentin them as such with the coaches and whatever and let him go start working out and getting you know used to plan together as a team in the conferences have like some kind of a mini playoff system. Listlessly at each conference. Have a a two game. You know you know to lost tournament you know and and just see who comes out of it and we have kind of a mini playoff system there and maybe December January or something like that you know if anybody ever talked about having some kind of step down. I mean see the teams how they finished last year or something like that and just well I think I think right now. I do believe everyone is factoring. Many many different contingency plans. Hey thanks to hear good to hear from JOE IS NEXT IN. Houston held you Paul. Thanks for taking my call. Great to have you yeah. I was I tried to call yesterday. You were talking to A man about I think he was writing a book about the spread Offense Right. Conley and he rattled off some names started. Thank you living here in Texas and being an old old retired high school coach. You if you're gonNA talk about the spread offense you gotta mention. Mouse Davis John Jenkins in June Jane. Who ran that run and shoot? You're right yeah. It was under center. But it eventually more than into you know. The spread shotgun version of the other run-and-shoot but anyways the neighbor running that in the eighties. You know worrying that in high school football in the Houston area but that was something I was wanting to call in. And y'all were talking about the Mount Rushmore of coaches. Hey living here in Texas Man. I had to call you got mentioned Tom. Landry mad at the Dallas cowboys. Come on I agree That's the problem with those list-serve lists are everybody's got their own list and you know college football and I will say I will tell you this Joe I had to interview him once Gene stallings and I don't know I've interviewed a few people including the aforementioned coach Shula. I don't know if I've ever been more nervous when I got a Tom. Landry is on the line I literally did not know what to say and he was so nice to very matter of fact I stumbled over. I I don't know if I got a sentence. South made any sense. Well add a chance. heard one time coaching clinic when it first started coaching Back in the late Seventies. And he you know. All this young coaches were thinking he was going to talk about this great offense and defense and he never mentioned a word about XS and OS. You just talked about. You know the the motivation and the practice and the The mindset behind the game it was really It really really changed my my way of thinking but anyway that I had to mention him and Thanks for taking my call and thank you and you you call it. I'm really glad you did because I grew up a cowboys fan. They would have killed me if I had gone to. Bed that night without correcting. Hey thank you coach and you call it again very soon. We are heading to a couple of guests. We're GONNA start dropping by your calls as well at eight five five two four to seven to eight five listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast too long since we had our we. We've had our next guest on the program. He is of course my griffiths and my first of all we miss you. Hope you've been doing okay. Doing Great Paul. Thank you good to hear so I know well. All this goes on. Football continues You've been covering the dogs for a couple of years. He's saying that we need to be paying attention to. I mean we Kirby on the other day and he seemed like he was a pretty happy with the way the draft went. Yeah this guy's picked They're producing NFL talent here. I mean I think they're recruiting solid. I think that you really pull the biggest news. Was President Jerry Moorhead. Last week talking about a return to campus in July for Georgia and just kind of trying to piece it all together. I mean you've got Great Sankey. Who's you know he's been on your program a couple of times and every time you come on your program. I really go to school with professors. Thank you there because he really lays out and You know talks about how things are going to go. As far as I've been putting the puzzle together calls but I am going to sit back and grab a cigar. All right enjoy so you so you've got the NCW oversight committee which is advocating a six-week. Prep time before the start of the season. Which would give us what somewhere in the middle of July. So okay. That's interesting you know. We finally have somebody that's giving us the timeframe we've had different coaches or different days out there now we got the NCW saying that. Then I see these NCW core principles canal for resocialization. Right introducing his students back to campus in the group. And they're saying there needs to be a two week process so okay. We're talking about six weeks. Prep before the season mid mid-july then we're talking about two weeks of the gating process which means they gotta be together. Just Been Georgia comes out and says how about this plan where the players in the coaches are warranty for two weeks On the Georgia campus and this goes with more heads saying they're going to be back on campus and July. So you put it all together and it looks like maybe what football teams can do this best case scenario. Everybody's talked about projections needing to stay on in lines. Everybody's talked about the potential for rebound for Cova nineteen. We're working under best case scenario here. But the the model that I'm seeing Paul is schools returning to campus in mid-july quarantining the coaches and the players for two weeks and then having them back a full go at practice in the month of August when the students return is there. Is there a reason that I'm that I'm confused? I don't know I I thought I laid it out pretty confusing about that. Well when I'm confused by that everyone seems to be on different pages. I would agree with that. And there's only so much these schools can do because of the states but if you look around the SEC. In and that's what I specialize in and I know you have a lot of national guests and I know Notre Dame's out there asking everybody to kiss the Golden Dome again. Change things up. So we make sure they're included even though they're not in a conference and they've benefited from ever no TV network for decades nonetheless in the SEC. At least when I look the eleven. Sec state they will tear to be reopening here within the next if they're not already within next ten days right. Here's the question if the state is reopened then why not the Kansas? Well I understand that badly I before I get to my next Return TO NORMALCY. Georgia's been open for over a week. Have you done much that you had been previously doing? No I work. I'm full first of all I work from home. And I'm I'm taking a very measured approach. You know but but I'm also an older guy that doesn't need to be in the mix of society right now. I work from home Follow Georgia football. I do my exercise and what. I haven't gone to gym if you're asking me if I've jumped back in with both feet. The answer's no but I'm not but I'm also not holding it against the people in the community that you know decided that's what they need to do. I'm I'm kind of you know everybody. I'm a live and let live kind of Guy Paul you know and and the thing that I guess that I think is curious that I haven't really heard talked about a lot yet. You know I I hear so much about what you can't have the students back on campus until it's safe and I think to myself. Are they really safer in their hometown? Because when I look at the life of the Student Athlete Paul. Ninety five percent of their time to quaranteed. When you think about this they have their own football weight room. They have their own academic support center. They have their own training facility. They have their own football building in meeting rooms. They've got twenty four seven access to medical testing doctors ninety five percent of the time. They're already warranty from the rest of the world. And then you got Joe Burrow. He didn't even go to class. So when you think about it. Where are they really more at? Risk home going to the mall and McDonald's or on campus in a controlled environment around other athletes and coaches who've been tested it's a fair point Let me ask you this though Mike in terms of and I know that your reporter. And you're you're right analysis but cobbling everything together that you have been able to do. Where are we right now? In terms of the the fall where we're going to see it or not. Well we're we're that's a all that was the best case scenario right. That's the television set in the window that I advertised for one hundred ninety nine dollars and I don't know if there's really going to be any in stock it's like great. Thanks told us. He's building the bridges. He crosses the river so the scenario that I laid out. How would they do that? That's planning that's the ideal circumstances. But you better believe that. All these Academic leaders and Greg think he's on these teleconferences with athletic directors and school presidents. They're they're all having plan. B plans the Plan D. What if this? What is that where we right now? We're we're right we're Greg thank you and I were having information and the good news is we. Don't have to press this plan into place right now. We don't have to know right now. We still have time to gather information doctors scientists. They still have time in this race against the invisible enemy. So where we're at right now is in the information gathering stage. What I just through. Its you was a model that according to what everybody's saying whether it's the NCW oversight committee or the NCW plan for resocialization or one of the many plans that Georgia medical staff came together during a teleconference last week for you work dot Com. That's just I. That's the ideal scenario for return for college football. But you gotta believe there's going to be a plan B C D and even for right now where we're we're gathering information where we're counting on. Greg updated each week as he often does here on the SEC network. Well that's fair. Yeah we were I've really enjoyed. Because I mean he's he's done it very clinically and methodically versus which some have done who just pop off and tell us what we can't do and we all know we all know the dangers. We watch this stuff all day. Long Sports is a microcosm of society. And certainly now more than ever is we look at the whole term and we look at how we're trying to get our our colleges going again and look business as usual isn't going to be business as usual even great. Thank you to me is much academian as any commissioner I've ever been around His acknowledged that there's GonNa be more virtual learning more online learning and things of that sort because we're going to avoid contact whenever we can right so there's certain classes like I have kids in college. You know I have a daughter. She needs to go to laugh like some classes. She can't pull because it requires lab work but where colleges can do virtual and online learning. They will that will still constitute a return to campus. Even if there's not as many kids in the classroom so we're already starting to see the new normal kind of take shape and some of the modifications that are going to be in place because they're the most healthy provisions that we can come up with Mike. Assuming we we get we get going on September fifth and you're at a game where you think it's going look like that's a great question. I think it starts with. Obviously it starts with the support personnel. Certainly nobody's GonNa you know. Take away any of the people on the sidelines. That have to be there for operations but I think secondly just being honest Paul. It's going to be the boosters in the in the skyboxes and you know because we don't look at that as a public environment remember for years and years the SEC. Didn't have anybody alcohol but you could have them skyboxes because that was private right. And I think that's GonNa of be away their way around this. I think those skyboxes you know from a liability standpoint. I think those skyboxes are going to be viewed as a little bit more of a private gathering and and let's be honest. The people that fund these programs that build these big buildings and put their names on libraries and media centers. And things like that. They're the people paying the bills. So you gotTa let them in. So you're gonNA have the boosters and skyboxes filled albeit. I'm sure some provisions that are in place after that then you gotta go to the Student Body. You know because when we talk about college football and what it's about we talk about the student athletes. That's why Greg thinks he's having all these teleconferences. You know with students as well as student athlete. Because you WANNA serve the student body so in some way shape or form you gotta have students available to go to the Games. They will probably be. I would say that's the second priority It was the NC Double A.'s. Brian Hairline he's like their NC. Double a You know team doctors ahead of all this. He was the one that said. It would take remarkable turnaround for ninety thousand. People would be in the stadium and honestly Paul you know to me. That's a red flag remarkable. He's not likely so. I think we're GONNA see a very spaced out stadium skyboxes. You'll have the boosters June sections. It'll be there spaced out players parents and very spaced out feeding may I was about. I looked at the clock and was about to get a prediction for the Georgia Florida game. But we'll have to say that I know I know you`re. I know that you haven't thought about that. You know aren't aren't supposed to be worried about Tennessee recruiting I well. Well hold on a second hold on the people running. The show can wait one minute because you covered Tennessee before Georgia and all I read is About how Tennessee has turned the corner and you just thrown what sounded to me like a stone. Well just looked a little bit closer at it. You know and look. Momentum is great in taking kids early before you have a chance to evaluate them. I mean listen. They've got a great staff at Tennessee. Phillip Fulmer Jeremy. Pruitt had put together incredible staff and I'm sure that they're very good evaluating talent okay to get to get to the lead. The forget the preamble. We all know that. What what do you want to say here? The League is that the average rating on these players is eighty nine. Point two one. The average rating on Tennessee signing class last year was eighty nine point nine two which was seventh in the SEC. They're still getting the same caliber players is they signed last year. They just gotTa committed earlier than they had him signed last year. But it's actually a little bit lesser caliber player and they also only have four linemen only two of which way over two hundred and fifty pounds. So you've got four running backs and all these guys that can run around path. But Paul you and I know they're not gonNA turn over Georgia or Alabama or a Florida until they get those guys in the trench when they start getting four and five guys in the trenches and when they can beat in Oklahoma Georgia Florida and Alabama in the regular season. That's that's when people are gonNA notice but right now it's just good momentum and a lot of positive publicity. Wow you did say the best for last minute comeback soon. We'll we'll we'll continue. That thought the next time around. Great to have you on appreciate it. Paul great one migrant really saving the the biggest news at the end when he just totally hosed all the pop-publicity the Jeremy pruitt is is is getting for what seemingly recruiting classes. We've seen at Tennessee in a long time. Essentially saying it's no better than last year. Wow get some reaction to that when we come back listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. You welcome back. David is in Tennessee. You're on the air holiday. Pay Doing Paul we great. Thank you good to reconnect with. It's been a while. Thank you very much. I called the initially to get a get your impressions of Jeremy. Jeremy and I was listening to that guy and I thought to myself Paul who is eager Georgia homer and then he was I gonna say that was not griffin formerly is the knoxville loose senseless. Yeah he covered Butch Jones up there for a couple of years. And maybe someone else but I will tell you I. I'm on record in saying I think Jerry pruitt is doing fantastic. My my griffiths. One of the few people. I've I've heard publicly. That just says Slam Tennessee recruiting. Well consider the source I to up here for years but tell you what Paul This thing's exploded and I think it's because of its usefulness and think this pandemic really catapulted his recruiting. I mean the guy so great using social media and let's let's face it Nick silence getting a little long in the tooth and this technology. I know I'm getting older. I'm fifty seven years old and technologies bypass me but He's PRUITT's doing a phenomenal job. In in for Mike Griffiths come on and give that give that spill. He just got that. Just kinda discredits him in my opinion but my question is how long is your is Nick saving going allow that cancer down there only staff it's like an infectious disease. I think that's infiltrating is program. May I ask you exactly what you're talking about here? I'm talking about butch boy. How long does he go that clown around? Well hold on a second. David I mean Butch Jones is now I think in his third year as a as an analyst. I don't know how you could you. I'm not sure. Jones is really the issue at Alabama. I don't think Alabama has too many issues. Well I'll I'll know he. He destroyed our program up here and Jeremy per student phenomenal job. And if you look at those coaching changes he made some of them work popular. Initially but Getting rid of Tracy rocker and a couple of other go always say is. I am impressed very much with what's been going on great to hear from you. Jeff is in Columbus Ohio. Hell Jeff how you doing Paul Jeff. We're doing well thank you man. I thought the virus at knock-down in humbled your boy homework Griffis. But you brought up his old stomping grounds in Knoxville. And you got him all fired up man I mean I I must say we were toward the end of the conversation and I just needed like a quicker by and he he loaded up there. Yeah just classic. I mean I gotTa admit the Tennessee fans. We're getting a little frisky which is chemical Tennessee but whole grip of USA. Come on your show and tell us trying to tell us hold blitz. Jones was getting a done and he was getting too much now he takes a little cheap shot out the back door and just that is pretty funny. I I'm glad you got that to come out of it and you know what I mean I was. I have to tell you about everything that's been said today. I May. I may be the most surprised by what would excuse me by what Griffiths in there I know it. Hey Paul when we talked about the College Football playoff and especially the committee. What's the biggest complaint? I know you have most impact with the committee. My biggest issue is is not transparent so they a they have agendas and I think we saw. We've seen that a couple of times being out. Thank you you nailed it okay. I I know it's trivial compared to what we're going through in the country right now but I think one of the biggest complaints of most people if they don't feel like these numbers and models and the quote unquote experts are transparent. I've liked to know where these models are coming from. Who are making up the models. They never come out of the I and one thing about it and I'm not. I don't know any of them personally but we tend to make heroes out of some of these people and Jeff. My question is forget the political people. These people that are that were held. Heralding is saving the country. Where were they in January and February? I agree one hundred percent and you've kind of got on me a little bit Paul. The last time when I said I've talked to some doctors and they're really a lot of doctors are upset about these models in numbers. But here's one. I haven't heard one person anywhere comment. We had our shutdown start here in Spot six four weeks ago if I'm not I'm not gonNA stay third Thursday as the eighth week that the sports world shut down but Most of the state's shut down the next week or the week after right okay. Fortunately my industry was exempt from that. So we've got six total week of data but I haven't seen one person or entity go out and find how many cases new cases or people gotten sick industries and big box stores and grocery stores where people are actually working and interacting. Talk to me. You would have had the best data ever when we look forward as we start opening up the economy. Hopefully opening up these campuses and we can all way football again. I have not heard one person even talking about that. They considered looking at the data from the prior. Six to eight weeks when people are interacting. I'm GonNa Paul and what I do day to day other than taking some precautions spacing Hand sanitizers. I don't see a whole lot different than it was six months ago and I truly honestly don't know of one person that has felt. Ill fill any different than they did six weeks ago. And that's what bothers me. We're not looking at real data when the real data now writing staring us in the faith. Well Jeff I'm going GONNA have to go into a this happens a lot and I understand. I understand Middle America. You and I are in Middle America so to speak you know. The New New York controls the world of media and I think the situation in New York is is horrendous. I we don't even if you eliminate you can't. You can't do this but if you eliminate New York Boston. Detroit Chicago New Orleans and some some areas of New Jersey. Then what do we have is my question to you? I mean that's that's been my point. All along isn't is a big metropolitan pocket problem or crisis and the rest of it and I'm not trying to be a smart Aleck. I'm not trying to downplay what happened to certain people know bill. I think we have to go. It's a conundrum and I I am. I'm not really on the side here. Jeff I know. Sometimes you thought I was. I I want with you on. I want to get back to normal employee. I'm being honest. I'm seeing almost normal day to day and you didn't you didn't you. Didn't you didn't believe me a couple I I really. I have been a hermit. But that's that was done for while Paul well because because it's not necessary for me to do anything other than I don't mean that literally but my wife she's at work so she's picking up stuff that we need and and and we just felt like she knows what she's doing a lot more than I do with this with this illness so I decided to let her do what The essential things. I'm at home so I'm not critiquing you. I want to ask the question. Yeah I I've driven with her two places but I I felt like the best thing to do is stay in the car. Let her go in and mitigate the man and I don't think there's a bad idea I don't think we need a lot but those days are coming to an end. I'm ready to. I'm ready to get back to the same thing you are. Hey thanks for the call. We are coming up getting lottery action to would my griffith said about Tennessee recruiting. We'll take it for listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We're getting a lot of calls about. What did Mike Griffith say here? A minute ago we were talking about creating Tennessee is doing gangbusters recruiting. The fan base is literally on fire. Right now Jeremy. Pruitt will be here tomorrow to talk about how we got to this point again these commitments and it is may but if you missed it. Here's what he said. A few minutes ago deleted that the average rating on these players eighty nine point two one. The average rating Tennessee. Tiny class last year was eighty nine point nine two which was seventh in the SEC. They're still getting the same caliber players is they signed last year. They just gotTa committed earlier than they had him signed last year. But it's actually a little bit lesser caliber player and they also only have four linemen only two of which way over two hundred and fifty pounds. So you got four running backs and all these guys. That can run around fast. But Paul you and I know they're not gonNA turn over Georgia or an Alabama or Florida until they get those guys in the trenches when they get four and five star guys in the trenches and when they can beat in Oklahoma Georgia Florida and Alabama during the regular season. That's that's when people are gonNA notice but right now it's just good momentum and a lot of positive publicity joe is up next. Hey Joe Howdy III. Today we are great. Thank you well. There's a couple of points that I want to want to take in all one minute about the Tennessee guy that called in and call the Butch Jones boogie Boy World. Blakey boy he also he also said that he thought saving was long in the tooth. Well you know that's what that's what happens when you heels and you just too much mum chat I mean. That's that's what happened that kind of turns that direction but I do WANNA congratulate Squirrel. He called in earlier and he never once mentioned Yale from does loser. Yeah you're right. I think this is the first time Jim has been mentioned in on the show. Well dying I do but you know you know I'm not gonNA say about him but power you get the feeling that you know nothing bad against Papal People. Ready to get out. Yeah sure I mean. We are not conditioned to be held at home for for freight wakes hate hate to run. I know that was a great call into making another hour to go.

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OBI: Monday week-start Bengals news jump (8/31)

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OBI: Monday week-start Bengals news jump (8/31)

"Sports betting dime DOT COM provides the coverage fans need to bet with confidence every time find the best odds track key trends and make smarter bets on all your favorite sports check it out at sports betting dime DOT com. It's the Monday news on the orange black insider bengals podcast. Happy to have you with us, normally I fly solo on Mondays but. I have a very special guest to talk about how Bengals fans can get involved on Sundays in Cincinnati. I've got Bengal Jim Foster host of Sunday night football with Bengal Jim in friends and one of the best advocates if not, the best advocate fan advocates for the Cincinnati bengals Jim, how you doing buddy great man who you see Anthony U2 it for those who do not know and if you have not watched his show jam every single week on Sunday nights host the show it's through his youtube channel it's on facebook. And died. It's downloadable. You can find it. It's a great great show he and a couple of his co host do an awesome job with it in every week. It seems like they keep the guest keep getting better and better this weekend cj Zama I think the week prior was was at fault for the week. Prior was two weeks ago was culture than we had. A prior to that we had Dan Hoard infiltrate that we have. Right now. Yeah. That's right. While you guys you guys do great work and you've been great to me for those who do not know I met Jim I knew about him but I met Jim in person last year at the Seattle game. We both went up there and Jim had his his his loyal following with him a lot. A lot of people gathering around him and as Usual Generous Guy Given out cousy and all kinds of things and I'm being the great fan that He. Is. So I've I've endured myself to him because he is such a great guy and he's done a lot for me and this show but Jim just quickly if you can I know a lot of people who are watching when we're going to get to news by the way, we're going to get to news and gyms going to help me out with that as well. We're GONNA. Get to news. We're GONNA about the Bengals in the NFL and everything like we usually do to start the week. But Gem if you could a little background on yourself, your Phantom, what you have been doing, and then of course. We'll talk we'll start there and then we'll talk a little bit about what you will be doing this year given the different landscape going on with football absolutely just again no different story than any other die hard fan out there been a fan for since I was ten years old nineteen eighty-one and tells you how if you can do the math quickly on that diehard fan haven't missed a game since a home games his nineteen ninety-two in a twenty four different NFL stadiums and this year was hoping to make it to a couple more the covert like that's going to happen. But now we're really excited anthony with you know. There's GonNa be kinds of virtual things going on on game days probably throughout the year rate and others can be really good stuff. Virtually the people were doing as well, but we were trying to figure out a safe environment. How do we keep the tailgate going but make it Can't be the same Can't be the same thing we've been doing with our tailgate all these years since nineteen ninety-three what can we do differently but still maintained the social spacing and Everything to CDC is requiring here. So we have secured a private parking lot in shadows, Paul Brown Stadium that we were going to be doing the first ever driving tailgate here in Cincinnati You know there's limited spots in order to make sure we that space incorrect we cannot. Load that lobster is very limited spots available and we're open at lot up at eleven o'clock. And at four o'clock, the game's going to be on and we're GONNA stay in a lot to watch the game. We have huge giant jumbotron led very clear that you can watch in the daytime when no glare, we're stay stain a lot and watch the game together So you know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA change the tailgate up a little bit anthony because we're not going to do our normal food lines with bef- as and and all that stuff bloody Mary Barra numerate Avars, the Kinda keep people in their own spots, right so we do have a food truck that's going to be in a lot with his that day we have the PORTA potties scheduled we've got. everybody is going to be have their space that they're going to be able to tailgate in. If they happen to leave that space to go get food from the food truck and war you know go to the restroom we're GONNA ask the people wear mask outside of that were taken temps temperatures. As, people are. In. Could only enter in a vehicle to drive in. So there's we're not taking any walk-ups. If we opened up the walk-ups, it'd be a total mess as far as number. So we've got it Kinda gated off and and we will be. It'd be a drive in only at the end of the day. So we're pretty excited about Ansi this is something we've worked for months on to be able to do this and do it right and We feel pretty confident about we just opened it up last night after people to secure their parking spots in the drive in Tailgate and I think we've already sold like twenty five spots and. There's not many more spots available. So that's that's kind of rat with an anthony which we are making it. There's to be some other announcements, some other people doing some major virtual tailgates and we're going to kind of tie that into ours as well. We're going to do is to show live that afternoon. From from the parking lot as well. We have tailgates from Denmark Germany Mexico. Canada West. coast. And East Coast that we're gonNA kind of pipe into the show that day as well. Kim. Anderson's GONNA kick off. Our tailgates, virtually forest and. In worn a tie, all those folks, anders be some other announcements with other folks doing some major major virtual tailgates that will tie into as well but I long winded answer anthony but I mean, that's pretty excited about it. No, it's you know I I wanted to give you whatever little platform I have to promote this to. To bengals fans because I think it's important number one for those I know not a lot of Bengals fans know who you are Jim based on your twitter following and what you've done in the past in throwing these great tailgate parties and whatnot I've seen pictures of summa unfortunately given where I live I don't get to I. Haven't been able to attend these except for when we kind of met in Seattle, we kind of had our own version of of a of a tailgate there but you know I wanted to promote this at number one because fans. Are Looking for things to do to set to celebrate this this bengals team because it is a new exciting new look bengals team they to do things. But as we all know, we also want to be safe we WANNA. Be Cautious. We WanNa make sure that. The that things are done in the the right way I guess in in accordance to health health codes and whatever and whatnot. So. I I just wanted to make sure that our fans I know there's a lot of crossover between our shows listeners in your listeners anyway. But you know, I, I really WanNa pump this happened the other thing. I. I think you may be mentioned but maybe not I think you the cost for this is it is going to charitable causes as well correct. Yes. Oh, you can't get that money. It is thirty five dollars I spot. There's a portion of that going to Kenny Anderson Alliance. As a fundraiser and we're also going to be one of the things throughout the tailgate that day to to get goal Ed as a thousand dollars for the Kenny Anderson, line. So a portion that will be parking There's a portion of that is GONNA pay for expenses the PORTA potties and the landscaping work getting done this week and a James and Craig and Bruce guys coming down tomorrow afternoon so we can clean it up and kind of spray paint the lines the way we want to spacing to be so there's costs involved by us. We're not making a dime out of any of this. There's also that private lot owner who needs to get his cutout. But there'll be portion I going to candidate or some alliance. We're GONNA be focusing on that day. Like, we do every opening day for for Kenny Anderson's foundation. We'll look we wanted to bring you on to promote this like I said, but also the the timing of it we're getting close to the regular season. I know you're you're finalizing these details and by the way the amount of detail and work that you're putting into this from porta-pottys and all kinds of different stuff I I mean I it stuff that I probably would. I probably mess up on something if I was planning this myself but. The amount of detail and work you have put in on. This is amazing and it's really it's all about the bengals and it's all about the bengals fans which always seems to be with you you're. You're a great advocate for the for the team and for the fan base and You know I, just wanted to let our listeners know before we get to more news and will remind him at the end as well. But you know I wanted to. Let folks know that are who are in the Greater Cincinnati area that usually go to games in tailgate maybe have been to past events that has thrown as a fan before games I wanted to give fans notification that there is going to be something that they can partake in and still a really high class high end great event that like you said Jim a, you know the proceeds go a portion of at least go to charitable causes which for for me, that's that's right up my wheelhouse. I think that's a really cool thing. If you can spend a little money, have a little fun and goes to A. Great 'cause I, don't you know there's not much not much better. can't get much better than that in my in my book. So I applaud you is there. Is there a website or are people just kind of following you on on your twitter and facebook to Kinda get the details on that or how can we push that out? Yes. Oh, really if you WANNA lack Su- lack yourself spot we do expect that the probably sell out by the end of the week if not sooner but if anybody's interested I after our show today, it's actually on our twitter facebook and instagram accounts right now how to lock that up You can do it's Pressing on. Clicking a link to be able to secure your spot at the name pain in advance, and you'll be able to show up with a ticket on your phone in order to in order to get in. So I'll actually wind opinion act to the top of our social media pages here after the show but it was it was hosted last night after our show last night. So it is on are are. Social media platforms today, but it's going to be to the top of our our social media after the show today with you. Okay we'll. We'll push that out for you. Definitely in we we wanted to make sure that folks knew what was going on and at least get a get wind of this opportunity in here about the cool things that you are doing even in light of everything else that we've. Had to kind of tap dance around given the the landscape of of everything going on around here or if you're if you do go to Bengal Gems tailgate the drive in tailgate experience he it sounds like they're going to be doing a show. I've mentioned that we a combination of myself by Usual Co host John Sharon, and will be doing some form of a pregame show is well we do. Have a sponsor for that. So maybe if you're hanging out with Jim and company, you can have us on in the background maybe and then Jim takes the air and they can chat as well before the game. So you get bengals coverage from US and Jim as well as a good time in person with Jim of through the safety of everything that they've built with this drive in drive and tailgate experience. Here. To Anthony, we're just doing very short brief segment. So probably pipe it in your show on a jumbotron that day. Okay. Well again, very, very cool idea and when I heard it I immediately had had to get you on and you know get the word out to people so. I I appreciate what you're doing, and unfortunately where I live I can't partake otherwise I would. But you know maybe if there's something I can do to donate or you know if there's any help you need that we can provide I'd love to do that You know we can talk behind the scenes mattis for something you need that I can maybe help with I'd love to do that. You guys are always Great First Class Organization Anthony appreciate it. Thanks. Well, let's let's get to some News Jim I. WanNa get your take on some of these things. Before we get on Outta here and again, Anthony Kazan's joined by special guests Jim Jim. Foster telling us about his drive in tailgate experience it. He'll be hosting in the downtown Cincinnati area on game days and I will remind you again before we get out of here before we do get to the news too. We do have an announcement unfortunately I gotta keep it under wraps for like another. Twenty four showers but we do have an interview that is dropping with someone associated with the bengals. That's about all I can tell you because. The. How he came to us we can't. We can't tell you. Who It is yet because of the the project he's involved with, but that will be dropping tomorrow and we will let you know in that'll be out on all of our channels while but. Jammed the big news here this week the bengals obviously yesterday. Partook in a intra squad scrimmage basically, the second one which seemed I mean it's based on what twenty twenty has brought us. It's basically the version of the dress rehearsal, right? Because there's no preseason games. I guess your kind of thoughts I knew you weren't there personal most of us were not and we had to kind of listen to it on the radio in hearsay afterwards sounds like there was some a lot of good from Jonesboro, a couple of hiccups defense ended up winning the scrimmage any any kind of thoughts on your in based on what you saw heard so far on what took place on Sunday in the scrimmage yeah I mean I was first of all excited to hear lap and hoard on the Ashley calling a game. Piped in crowd noise was fun and and here Dave getting all fired up in a scrimmage on the on the radio was awesome It was interesting I. Don't think there's anything that totally surprised or shocked me. It was Joe Borough starting scrimmage out Oh and three. Nine people already on twitter and social. Media. Omega. was going on. They immediately hit like nine out of his next hand to a couple of touchdown passes. It was cool to see my Thomas get involved any offense. Tyler Boyd which I think the chemistry, there's going to be a lot of. ECZEMA I mean there's I, mean, this is fun. I wish I called saw a couple of plays today on social media different. Passes that he threw but I mean, this is all without there was a lot of starters playing anthony yesterday rate. So without Aj Joe Mixon than on defense. So you didn't have done Lawson There was a few other guys miss in there as well. So. Again. The orange of scrimmage every single year. Not, a lot you learn out of it at the end of the day and it is a scrimmage, but for them to be doing it yesterday without the referee's was interesting as well. Yeah. I mean it's basically Kind of the maximum of what they're able to do this preseason. Unfortunately with everything going on, that's that's the reality of you mentioned. That's these are the other news pieces I wanted to get to out of that scrimmage. You you mention Ejei Green Joe, mixon among many other star players not suiting up Joe, mixing it has been listed as a day to day there's been a migraine issues going on maybe another minor injury that he's dealing with I some people wonder if the contract situation is is To play a part in that I. don't I don't believe so personally, but who knows the only Joe in the organization truly know if that? Is What's happening there I I don't there hasn't been open dialogue about you know him sitting out because of that it's been more of the migraine in minor injury issue, and then of course, AJ. Green nursing a hamstring injury, he didn't play yesterday. But as you said, Jim the chemistry between Joe Borough and Tyler boy looks incredible Joe Borough came out You know there was a quote believe it was after the game on Sunday kind of said you know basically expect. Tyler Boyd to have a big year where clicking really well at this point and. I think that's kind of based on his connection with Justin Jefferson how Lsu Move Justin Jefferson around inside and outside the Bengals do the same with Tyler Boyd. So Raiders a comfort level there right. Yeah that's a great. That's a great point. I didn't even think make that connection, but you're exactly right. It's a great comparison. So the the the offense I guess quote unquote lost the scrimmage based on how they keep score and everything. But you know there were some takeaways there from from scrimmage Lega said that a lot of the stars were not in the game but Joe Borough was there another? Joe. Borough noted is Jim that I found interesting. He's actually been lobbying to take on some actual contact He's he's been lobbying to a to the coaches to say, Hey, you know I wanna take a hit or two before week one because I'm a little worried of what you know. What that's going to be like not being hit for so long. Not Getting used to kind of that that play that speed I found out to be a really interesting facet to to the off season as well. Yeah. I. Mean I don't know how many quarterbacks in the NFL actually said that we know Joe Borough did. I mean, you know you gotta figure guys were playing ball since probably P on high school and You take a lot of hits before the season starts. This will be the first time in his football playing career. I assume that he's not gonNA take legitimate hit until opening day and hopefully opening it he doesn't take it but anyway, I, mean, at the end of the day it's gotTa. Feel different for these guys it's just going to be an interesting. It's GonNa. Be An interesting opening day to watch for. Sure. Yeah it'll it'll. It'll be different it'll be different. There's no there's. No doubt about that. But you know that the bengals players Joe Borough are also trying to make things as realistic as as possible right. Now, through the rest of the preseason, I found this one to be interesting to Jim the the fact that and tate worked out with. Nfl Star and former Raven, and on this, this post is on Cincy jungled dot com kit went up on Monday morning Now, if you if you look at eight Auden on Bolton, not similarly built players on data's probably about a half a foot of height. On one Bolton but the across the middle, the tough catches the red zone stuff that kind of rings true Anquan. Boldin obviously had a stellar NFL career and you see this logic I remember back a handful of years ago Aj Greenwood work out with Calvin Johnson and other star guys. So I don't see that there's anything wrong with this I just found it to be very interesting and I wonder how how much this will translate for audio tapes game this year who by all accounts has been having a good training camp yeah I again, I been able to watch A. Two or three training camp sessions and I went down to Friday's go to watch their first scrimmage. That's what on tate was absolutely amazing Anthony. He was making catch after contested catch after contested catch great routes. And I- jober to put the ball when when he is going to be three to five inches taller than most of the DVD's better. I have no problem with him working with former. With Anquan Boldin at the end of the day this guy's legit. Now it's GonNa be interesting to see you know he is going to be one of the top three receivers on a staff probably not but. Are receiving core is one of the strengths of this team and on tapered special player, and this is GonNa, be a big breakout year for him in my opinion. They may need it because like we said AJ grain nursing at hamstring injury You know it sounds like he's likely to play in the in the opener I think they're being precautionary based on what happened last year with him. So maybe they're just taking a little easy on him, but you know there still is I think among the fan base a little bit of hesitancy in terms of relying super heavily on aged green right away throughout an entire season. That's guy like tate also. Provides value and then we didn't mention his name, John Ross and other guy that I don't believe he suited up for the scrimmage either. Last night and you know he's been dealing with a lot of different things and thankfully the issue with his son and the mother of his son being ill with with Kobe nineteen thankfully, that has subsided and he's back with the team. But you know there's injury issues there. So I mean when you see staff when you hear things about tyler boy looking great alden tate working out with with Anquan Boldin with some of these other receivers that seemed to be a big part of the bengals plan this year when they're. Not. In the mix in terms of practicing these types of things make you feel at least a little bit more at ease yeah and I agree with you I mean so to your point rates. So the depth is going to be probably tested at some point if not early in the season when you've got Aj to be honest one of the best receivers in the NFL, we can stay healthy. The last couple of years have been tough for him stanfield. So Aj is stay on the field and John Ross issue is. You know I think I know he has his the injury bug a little bit here and there, but I think it's more for for Ross, is between the ears right confidence issues and as an athlete, a Stud athlete that he is. Not who gets right between the ears because ages got gonNA. Stay in that field and we need Ross as well. I'm I'm excited about the rivals even court for sure in with a depth there, and we're going everything's into need depth at some point during the season at wide receiver in we were positioned pretty well there for sure. Hopefully that's the case The bengals seem to also at least Dave Lapham shares. This opinion with a we heard this a while ago from Jim Turner that Hickey Adedeji did the rookie offensive lineman that. The bengals got in the sixth round Jim Turner upon drafting him said that he thought he was a day to talent that fell with him late in day three and Dave Lapham also, thanks for this kid is a steal. Now I don't this isn't a guy that's GonNa crack the starting lineup right away Jim I don't think but that provides guard tackled versatility which we knew about you think about an offensive lineman in the sixth round and you say, well, you know maybe he's the guy who's kind of fringe backup that hangs with the team for a while. This doesn't seem to be the chatter around this kid they. Seem to like him probably not poised for a big role again, this year but maybe a year or two down the road as he develops had a lot of starts in college for sure. Yeah. I mean when they drafted him, I wasn't upset with drafted because I know a little bit about the kid my initial thought was practice squad kid you know likely but but you're right I mean you hear more and more stuff to hear Dave Laugh and talk about his footwork and all the things that Dave Lapham often about this past week about him you know maybe maybe this kid develops sooner than later because. He's not a starter this year maybe add some depth somewhere in that line, but he's GonNa have to show that versatility because there's going to be injuries all you know every NFL teams being with Internet offensive line. So hopefully, he can sooner than later but my initial thought when they drafted him was maybe practice squad kid but maybe maybe he's doing way better than I'm thinking yeah there's a lot of lot of chatter on this kid again, i. Think. It's probably something that's earmarked for your to way in terms of a big rain or him but you know it's good to hear that a guy that that was kind of a late a late round pick is looking to be a diamond in the rough. We're GONNA be here for a few more minutes I'm talking with Jim Foster the fan advocate extraordinaire, Jim Foster who is putting on a drive in tailgate experience he usually puts on the big tailgate experience. Around the stadium parking lots and whatnot for Bengals fans unfortunately just given what everybody's dealing with this year. That's not a possibility. But Jim has created a very, very cool experience for folks to partake in. There's a small cost to it that caused in part goes to charity and will be You know I think giveaways and other experiences to oil Very cool thing we're going to be here for a couple more minutes talking more bangles news in NFL news. Let's face it. The weeks are feeling really really long right now, we could all use a little distraction. 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Be bengals news but also kind of NFL News Jim The bengals take on the chargers in week one but one of the chargers best players doesn't seem to be ready he it sounds like he will not be ready to play and Derwin James the very versatile defensive back it sounds like he's got a meniscus injury and will not be able to play. That's a guy I think you know kind of like a Meka Fitzpatrick or maybe even a Jalen Ramsey. Move around even Paulo. Malo you can move them around a lot and really trick potentially trick a young quarterback is an athletic guy. So this could be it sounds like he's not going to be there for week one's GonNa meniscus injury. So this could be a big relief for the bengals in week one. Yeah it's interesting the first I heard that reported sound like he would be ready for opening day in a more yet the more reports started coming on, he's not going to. Be there opening day for them So you know again, don't wish any harm on guy who the guy comes back hundred hundred you just not for the Bengals game and you know but man I tell you that charge defense is pretty damn good anthony, their defensive line side they're they're pretty good. So Derwin, not being there is going to help the team for sure but man, that's what they got weapons defensive studs up and down the line up there on the defensive side of the ball still. Little scary that they can get after the quarterback pretty well, right. And you know that just derwin James Not being back there you know that's just a play a very high end playmaker won't be able to potentially take advantage of pressure being built up front so. Good News and in the way for for the Bengals, obviously, we hope a speedy recovery in general to Derwin James just you know, hey, take take the week off by its it'll. It'll help us all out but some some interesting news as it goes to week one and the bengals facing the chargers. Another one jammed that I thought was interesting and there's Kinda it's it. There's a little bit of chatter with him. Maybe being connected to the Bengals I see that as being Super Far far fetched at this point but now potential connection of him with rounds, which is very interesting Leonard for net was waived on Monday former top. Was He Over all pick. Yeah Jaguars wave them in by the way if you have any gripes about the bengals draft pigs or whatever they're doing or not doing the check out the Jaguars draft picks in this past decade top ten picks. It is a freaking mess what they've done in the where these guys have gone and who's not playing anymore. But Jim Leonard Fournette waved by the Jaguars some chatter about him being connected to the Browns, which is interesting with job and Kareem Hunt there. But thoughts on that is funny. Real Quick Jacksonville I think I was reading today that. I mean, they just weren't AFC championship game in two, thousand, eighteen with with the Patriots right I think there's only while players last on that team that roster today just two years later just amazes me because that was a damn good team but fornet if remember the bengals play down in Jacksonville last he didn't play that game either we kind of had some Nixon bruises. I you know at the end of the day, I. Don't it does shot me that he's being waived makes me think are the more issues maybe off the field troublemaking type things that might be involved in I don't know I can't imagine him the bengals signing him anthony at all in would surprise me at the end of the day. the Cleveland they seem to be deeper and have a little bit more depth that running back most teams. So again, it'd be interesting to see Cincinnati entertaining fornet. Coming here. Yet Geo. Yet obscene mixed in Gio in some of these other guys Not what I feel pretty good about a running back position right now everybody stays healthy obviously right? I think it's I think it would be more if there there's just nothing being made in terms of headway with mixing contract that would be that would make sense to me but for the most I mean there's there's there's maybe some. Some questions on work ethic with format there's there's no other I I remember him in college us an absolute freak, and if more were Jim I, think a portion of the way through the year he got hurt and to not affect his draft stock. He he I think some reports if I remember correctly, this was years ago now but there were some reports. That maybe hey, he could come back but he knew he didn't come back as soon as maybe they thought or didn't play the rest of the year because he was hurting he didn't WanNa. Hurt his draft stock You know you can't blame the kid for that Y- especially if he's staring at millions of dollars on one way but when you look at It. Now a couple years down the road and those work ethic questions popped up you kind of look at that example and you go. Well, you know was there was there smoke without fire. You know I've heard all is kind of where I'm at. But I you know it's end of the day I think you know the bengals get their deal done. With mixed and but I think for net would cost more than Nixon at the end of the day, and that's one of the other reasons too. I don't see that happening it's intimate if they're overpaid for running back, it's going to be who they know that somebody coming in like fornet in my opinion, I could be am I signing later today I don't know. Maybe I I don't think so. Either Yeah Alvin Kamara guy who is who was drafted in the same second round is Joe Mix and he is looking at potentially holding out with the saints a little more quietly. With the saints potentially to get a new deal, he has been an uber project productive running back especially as a pass catcher different loop different mold than Joe Mixing but a part of a very good running back class that came out of that that draft. So Alvin Kamara. something kinda monitor just based on the mix and situation as well. the other. The other piece Jim before we get on Outta here unless there's any other news bits that you would like to get to but. There's now talk of Riley Reef the I think he's played some garden tackle He started with the lanes moved over to the Vikings got paid pretty heavily there. They have said they wanted him to take a pay cut. He is not willing to do that apparently and is telling his two is prepared to be released by the team You know of course, that's another automatic. Oh, what about right tackle for the bengals you know Your thoughts on on reef in in that situation man I wish I knew the details but I can tell you what I do know. Again. I know everybody hates bobby heart grade but. What. That bad this preseason, right I'm sorry this. during training camp been kind of keep an eye on that You know he's looking at pro football focus grade last year anthony it really wasn't any better much better than bobby hard at the end of the day I again if he helps us. Absolutely I don't feel confident that he really is a huge upgrade at rights act when my opinion. That you're you're right about the PF scores that does tell a certain story that is a little bit shocking I think a lot of people would when when they hear that, you would say Riley reformer first pick obviously he's GonNa outshine Bobby Heart in that. In that regard he has he is not at least not as of last year and the other thing reef is thirty one years old going to be thirty two in the season Bobby Hartson mid twenties So you know that's that's something to think about I think also reef has had maybe a couple of I'll look at his stats here maybe a couple of injuries Now he's been pretty durable missed three games in two thousand eighteen in game last year couple of games here and there throughout his career. So he actually has been pretty durable as bobby heart so you know it's. It's probably not necessarily a lateral move. It might be a little bit of a step up but you're also increasing age potentially price tag all kinds of things. Yeah. So interesting stuff though I did I miss anything that maybe we should talk about before we get out of your Jim one thing if you don't mind walk about those damn linebackers brother. I love him I, love the I love the off season moves. I of it was one of the things other than watching Joe, borough, and training camp off the bridge this year so far is the thing that out to me is these linebackers are fast brother. Let me tell you. They can move now there were times in in in the practice they were Ruben fast maybe not in the right spot right direction but. I'm excited about these linebackers Anthony I'm the guys got in free agent in free agency and then guys they they picked up in the draft mandate is the most athletic group linebackers I have seen on his bengals team in a long time. That's good to hear your your observations of Marcus Bailey, the separate seventh round pick a guy. A lot of folks is a big steel and a guy that we we actually had him on our program was very, very entertaining young man and seems to be a guy that you know if healthy should be able to contribute on on this defense has he how has he been looking in the early stages of camping in things that you have been to in person from your bird's-eye bridgeview again from the bridge a I. I can't tell what he's doing right or wrong sometimes where I'm at and what they're trying to accomplish with with the players. The running he ran a lot of snaps with first team first team defense as well. But like you said I think again, this guy could be one of the bigger steals for the bengals there could be multiple steals in a draft this year but this kid in college when he was healthy, he was one of the best linebackers in college football. So if this can stay healthy with us, we've got us a player right there again, a lot of young young. Guys at that linebacker spot. But I'm pretty excited about magic. You know in this division especially with with Baltimore to be able to cover the tight ends and be able to to to tackle these quarterbacks. Right remember the play last year when when. Lamar shook everyone of our linebacking or in for the touchdown I can't imagine it happening at all like that. This would the athleticism that we have back there now. So pretty excited about again, a young court is going to be some mistakes but I'm really pumped about about that that that group right there for sure. I'm glad you brought that up for a number of reasons I'm sharing a picture of the the linebacker group there that. You know they're doing a little paying a little amish age to Chadwick. Both men who unfortunately passed away the the actor who played Black Panther Jackie Robinson in the forty two movie all kinds of other using draft day So you know very, very sad situation with actor passing away and and some of these linebackers Akeem Davis gator Marcus Bailey and others. Kinda, give a little amish at the at the scrimmage yesterday. The other thing Jim that we should and We should have probably kicked off with it but there was just so much to get to that. We just criminals and everything what the Bengals do in their ownership group. Did it was on Saturday the with the statement they put out on social justice issues and and other things kind of plaguing the nation right now they went to the underground railroad museum in downtown Cincinnati. trae Hopkins read a statement Joe Borough Reticent when we're GonNa talk a little bit more about that on our Wednesday show when we do a deeper dive on things. But I thought that was a very very powerful statement by the team in Jim. Guy Lost in the shop a little bit. But when you saw the transition from trae Hopkins to Joe Borough did you see who is behind him? There was Mike Brown. And Brown you use the best word to describe what we saw here in Cincinnati this week when when you had that short walk across the banks area from Paul Brown stadium over to the Freedom Center. In Walker, you can see Mike Brown Katie. Katie Blackburn, jober all these guys and was coach is players in ownership. Made that trek together it was a very powerful statement in my opinion into here Joe Borough come out and say, look, this is not a political discussion what we're doing right now athlete but. This is not initial politics, but the fight for equality I. Think is what Joe said something to that effect I thought it was a powerful statement for a rookie quarterback to get up and do that and do it confidently and in was very comfortable may connect that comment. It was powerful Buddy I. Just we talked about a little bit. You know Dave Lapham talked about. Nineteen. Seventy five when it was Emma Dan, we're talking about on their podcast that. Ham. Cheese Pizza forget schedule the all feathers and offensive line in vern Holland in the mid seventies very good offensive lineman. In him and Dave got to be really close friends black left tackle Dave Lapham white offense lineman rate vern invites Dave to his birthday party. Dave goes Dave's the only white guy there right and he was like look. We just it was just like being with my family. We're talking about France we're talking about family. We talked what happened that day you know you really don't know we can sit here and say whatever we want. But we really don't know until we're in somebody else's shoes and what they experienced. We just don't know we can say in thank and in have opinions on it but it was. When Darren Salmon made the comment yesterday day before yesterday about this is the closest knit team that he has seen this early and in the season in training camp then he is seen forever and he's been with the Bengals for a very long time. I it was just a powerful statement in it just tells you how close this team is. Yeah and I think that those two guys who spoke we couple couple episodes ago John were saying who you know who were potential captain candidates for this team you know who's GonNa wear the sees on their jerseys I think that Hopkins and borough. You could pretty much out on the fact that the those sees will be on their Jersey based on what we saw this weekend and it's really great to see trae Hopkins a guy who has kind of been a little bit behind the scenes in terms of as a team media priority quote unquote really step up in this important time and talk about some things. If you haven't seen it yet go to bengals dot com to see I think on their youtube channel and others a full fifteen or twenty minute statement or or Kinda chat that trae Hopkins. Had with the media about some of this stuff, and then there's about a minute long video of the team in front of the underground Railroad Freedom Center. I think it was it was neat Anthony I think very well-spoken him and Joe both I mean it was very cold here. Hear most I've heard trae speak at any one time. Right but you know he went to the team the teams when giving him things that that he put together in shared in that speech that he did. So I gave me Goosebumps Watch and I thought was a very cool statement. Agreed. You know I know the Bengals Totta at. A bit of flack from their fan base in some from you know what? Why are you staying quiet why aren't you doing that I put out a tweet and I'll talk more about this probably on our Wednesday show but you know put out a tweet saying you know the the Brown family are very deliberate and calculated people and I don't mean calculated in a negative way I mean, i. mean in a positive way you know they they are thoughtful. People they don't. They don't need your reaction to a lot of different things and I know there's kind of some stories out there that you know have kinda brought some criticism but you know they they deliberately listen to their players of late The players had a lot of things to say to them and they made this powerful statement at the underground underground Railroad Freedom Center, in downtown Cincinnati, on Jackie Robinson weekend that was being honored in the MLB and. You know that that that says a lot There's there's they're they're far from a perfect franchise jam I need you and I can agree with that. We both love this franchise but you know I think some people that were jumping on their backs early about not getting on this issue a little earlier I think I think when you see what they did Saturday hopefully, you can say, well. They took time for a reason. Yeah, and again I think you hit it right on the nose Anthony again following US organization internally here for a long time did ever make quick snap decisions. It's going to be thought through it's going to be discussed and it'll be a lot of people involved in that decision in what's going to be addressed and they don't make snap decisions on anything just the other thing that I learned that I didn't even think about. A lot of these players didn't know the history of Paul Brown and during this conversation had past week Past Week and a half they got to understand the history of the Brown family and immigration in football. Paul Brown in Cleveland and even when he came to the bengals and sixty eight when he started the bengals mean he's the one integrated started that whole process you know Mary Motley up in up in Cleveland and ends up. Even at sixty eight when he came to Cincinnati, there were they were black players are not being picked up by certain teams because they felt they had enough black players on her team. That's not wasn't Paul Brown. Mike Brown's death the. You play you're playing. It didn't matter what color you wearing and I think the Brown family earn a lot of respect from the team as a whole because I think they learn something they didn't know going into this whole discussion i. thought that was really cool. Saying that an antler effect that I didn't know that they didn't they weren't aware. That's really I didn't know about the players getting kind of educated in then respect internal three of the team and Paul Brown and if you were running out of time here but if you WanNa, go find out a bit more about Paul. Brown's effect. In this regard, go go research some articles on on interviews with Jim Brown on Paul Brown and this integration aspect and The Brown family aren't the you know they're not the Dan Snyder's or others that say look at me look at me look what we're doing look at me but they just kind of do their thing and sometimes it's not the right thing. But a lot of times it is and Paul Brown There's a very poignant quote by Jim Brown talking about integration and How Paul Brown approach that I would recommend that bengals fans go research and read about that. It's It's pretty interesting but good on the bengals for what they would show this weekend. But Jim one more time before we get Outta here, how I know you've got a couple of different social media platforms. People can find out information on your drive in Tailgate When last little plug for you to to get that out to the fans if you would. Yeah, again, we've got unlimited spots for the driving tailgate here in Cincinnati private parking lot shadows of Paul Brown stadium. If you WANNA. Spot any of her social media platforms, twitter facebook and Instagram in. You Can Click and reserve your spot for opening day here in Cincinnati. That's awesome. So I urge bengals fans if whether or not you have been to a past tailgate, the Jim has thrown on I understand they are quite the party. So whether or not you have go get your spot by the way one other thing Jim I keep it's like almost like Oh. Oh by the way Oh by the way the bengals are also doing the cardboard cutout thing for fans. In the stadium seventy, five bucks. That's another really cool thing that I. Guess that's also going to charity. You have the option of getting the I guess cut out back after the season. Are you doing one for you? Are you ain't? So my kids came up to me yesterday yesterday during the day and we took all the kids in my wife's pitcher and yet we did we did a miracle yet. So it's one of. My kids is holding the our dog and So we want doing and it's really cool because you could pick different charities that you wanted that money to go to the free store, food? Bank. There was a national freedom center. There was a bunch of different things you could select where that money was going to be donated to really cool thing and I think they're filling up the the south and north end zones with these cutouts so. At the end of the day if I can't be at a game, I'm going to miss a home game physically I will be there some way shape. Or family. I would sell people to go into the bengals website. They've been the website and their social media platforms a really good job pushing it, and they make they make it very easy for you to to do this to. So take advantage of its. It'd be a lot of fun I'm thinking of doing it. Myself by the way to do it by Tuesday. September first to get it in. So think I'M GONNA. Do it myself. So if any other fans are interested checkout that checkout mangled gyms drive in Tailgate, Experience Jim. Thanks thanks for coming on in for the time and I said you know twenty five minutes or whatever. But we got chatting and It's been. It's been a great episode seen a lot. Of comments about people enjoying this episode in particular that you join me I'm thankful for it. If you haven't yet if you're watching our show and for some reason, you do not watch Bengal Jim Sunday night football with him James and Jamie and all kinds of great bengals gas by the way, tell tell those two guys hello for me as well. Jim. Go, check that out it's streamed on facebook and youtube much like our show is kind of way it's on Sunday evenings. They've got great guests of course Jim's got this this drive in tailgate experience that he wants you to be a part of we already seeing Jason Stolen saying already reserved my spot in our lives Jack Jim. So Anthony, I I want a for know before I get out of here maniac. You don't know what an what an impact you made a Bengal fans across the world as well. I mean when? Jamie, who produces our show in Canada me for years? That's all he does when he walks out the bengals games he's immediately tune into you. Anthony Eight on the. Bengal. Ended up. It's important what you guys do. We appreciate everything you do Anthony. I appreciate it and You know you guys are killing it like always jamming. You know the more we can do this you know cross integration and in synergy between what we're both doing that I think that'd be a good thing and hopefully we can get you get this. Drive tailgate filled up for you be through our show or your own promotions. 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Bob Glauber joins us on sports byline Fine Newsday Sportswriter and he joins us because he's got a brand new book out and it's the story of both three coaches and it's called guts and genius. The story of three unlikely coaches who came to dominate the NFL in the nineteen eighties and this book is a look at these prolific coaching Careers Bill Walsh also Joe Gibbs and bill parcells. First of all, Bob why these three coaches and what makes their careers so prolific. Well I just felt that that period of the NFL was very unique, very special and really never to be duplicated again and I don't think we're GonNa see and here quite like it. I started covering football back in the mid eighties back in nineteen eighty-five started covering the giant. So I was very familiar with those rivalries and that style of play and. I just got to thinking that hearing you and you look back and you Kinda try to leapfrog into the future and see how the NFL Kinda came to be as it is. Now that was a really important decade and those three coaches left a mark on the NFL. That really does today. To to the point that. All thirty two of today's coaches. Are. From either the Bill Walsh or Bill parsoes coaching trees every single one of them and I think you're gonNA. See this as we move forward for the next several years and I I just found that dynamic amazing and I thought all their stories were interesting and the way that they overcame initial adversity in their head coaching jobs was really really did tied together and they ended up having tremendous rivalries against one another and basically whoever won that playoff game that given year between those coaches would end up, win the Super Bowl and they. Kept taking turns doing it I. Think a lot of people will ask why wasn't bill belichick included in this and I think I know the answer because the timeframe you're looking at, right? Yes. Yes. This is not like I'm not saying these are the three greatest coaches ever I'm saying in this period, their legacies were kinda formed and they had these hall of fame careers probably the last decade. We may see three hall of fame coaches come out of and you know. All coach now it's Belichick and you know who else is it? I don't know Jimmy Johnson keeps getting close, but he doesn't go get in because of his longevity issue and what happened with the dolphins but but these three coaches really set the scene and set the tone for for what you see today and I suspect that Bill Walsh would look down on on a game like the chiefs and Rams say well done gentlemen find the open spaces in those defenses. Between all three. Bob. You know I think there were there were common threads among all three in in this respect they were all. Deeply, insecure about whether they kind of knew what they not not that they knew what they were doing but whether what they were doing would work and you know Bill Walsh's specially I I found it fascinating that he was. So he was a genius and he really was a genius and he was ahead of his time and sometimes he doubted himself to the point where he didn't know if he could really hack it. Any NFL, and he the first two years were wracked with insecurity in wracked with doubt about whether he could do it. There was a game He lost to Don Shula and the dolphins midseason in nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty season and he broke down on the plane broke down and started crying. To the point where his assistant coaches and John mcvay, the general manager had to cut a shield him. So the players wouldn't think anything was really wrong and from that moment he said I, you know I can't do it but then you know something something happen inside and he says, okay, I got to fight through it and he did and he won the super bowl the next year the first of three but. He really doubted himself and even after the first super bowl win. In eighty one, they don't get to the playoffs after the eighty two strike season Bill Walsh's ready to quit. He is ready to step down. He called Mike White and said I want you to be my head coach and I'll be the general manager like quite said, you're crazy I'm not doing that you you. You can't do it you have to be. The coach Yeah I was on his press conference right after the season end and as you said, it was a strike shortened season and I'll never forget He'd say, Hey, I'd like to talk to you and we were walking across the practice field and he stopped and he turned to me and he said they can't even kick a damn field goal. And that was the difference between them, making the playoffs and not making it, and that's when the you know the spark him thinking about retiring because he was very concerned about how he was going to be looked upon after all the challenges he had even getting an opportunity at forty nine years old to be a head coach in the NFL. Fascinating you don't even have those doubts during his career with the forty niners he'd had them. before beforehand because he was an older coach back, then I mean it's not like coaches were being hired regularly in their thirties but late forties was very unusual and when. Paul Brown passed over Bill Walsh. Tiger Johnson and seventy six. That really was a a very important moment bill Walsh's life, and it's probably the lowest moment that he'd had. and. Mike White was telling me that Bill Walsh came out to his house alone after that had happened and he just had to gather himself. So Mike and Maryland White Kinda bring in despondent and disconsolate Bill Walsh into their home and you know let them stay there for a few days. Let him on wind and he ends up getting the job. It's offensive coordinator in San Diego and and that was you know an important springboard. But there was he was wracked by doubt and you know whether people were going to give him a chance but there was something that also happened then when Paul Brown pass them over and basically blackballed him from getting another job in the NFL. the wall set to himself. If I ever get a head coaching job, I will never ever. Treat an assistant coach like I was treated there, and from that grew the largest coaching tree and not only in the but in the history of professional sports do you know why? Again Paul Brown did it I know the answer and if you don't know and I can tell you why he he was blackballed also passed over. Well from what I gather Paul Concerned about a couple of things. One was bills temperament and he felt he was too up and down Dick for meal who has Bill Walsh's close friend former eagles coach that that was really why Paul Brown didn't Trust Bill Walsh to be knew he a brilliant. TACTICIAN and strategist, but he just didn't trust the up and down this of of Bill Walsh as as a leader, and that was a bit of a problem and Tiger Johnson was just more of a meat and potatoes kind of what you'd expect from from an NFL coach at that time i. know there's something else yeah. There is something else and it was the fact that Paul Brown was afraid that Bill Walsh would. Go beyond what he had done in football and to do that right after Brown left coaching. And everything he was. He was not going to give him the opportunity to do that. That's what bill told me. That's what several other people who are close to bill had told me was the reason he also says, you know disappointed after Tommy pro throw left that he didn't get the opportunity at San. Diego and when he didn't get the opportunity to be the head coach there he then took the Stanford job. that that that doesn't seem to make sense although I think there was some of that stuff going on. you know in terms of credit Paul Brown was very reluctant to give credit during his run and in Cincinnati and that did frustrate Walsh and was willing to sublimate his ego at that point look brand they had guy and he knew he was doing the work of of Paul Brown and Brown's getting credit for it Didn't know that there. You know that was was the main reason but but that that that's interesting. It was and I got to tell you the other thing he said to me after he announced his retirement after ten years. Later on he said, that's the biggest mistake I made in my life because you know the forty niners then went on to win two more under George Siefert two more super bowl championships I was that was an interesting time for bill. It really wasn't he. He did. You know he he told several people that including yourself that that was a mistake. I think he operated out of emotion Y- and you know ver- meal related to that because he did the same thing after retiring from the rams after winning the Super Bowl he felt that okay it was time to go. He was exhausted and that was it Mike. MARTZ. was his offense coordinator. Let them get take that job and and Dick for meal new shortly after that? I I messed up and then he to the Kansas City chiefs and coaches a few more years and bill I found it interesting that he never did go back to the NFL maybe it was because he was older but they're certainly be a place for today's game and you know his son Craig said that he was disappointed that the forty niners didn't really treat him better toward the end and eighty barlow was very, very hard awash especially that last year and I think it got to the point where. eighty might thought that he was the reason that they were winning and not Bill Walsh and a little muddled by the end. You're absolutely I'm laughing because I knew about their relationship you know and Carmen policy had many times jump in and be the peacemaker because if they lost a loss to game Eddie was not too happy You're you're absolutely right about that. It was interesting dynamic as I was around and had a chance to watch it and my friendship with any search started and then continued mainly because of the fact that I said you have nothing I need. Perfect. Yeah. It is a hold on justice second we're talking with Bob Glauber and Bob is a sports writer for Newsday. He has written a wonderful book I urge you to check it out. It's going to be a selection of the month on the sports byline book corner. It's called guts and genius the story of three unlikely coaches who came to dominate the national football league. In the nineteen eighties we've talked about Bill Walsh. We'll talk about Joe Gibbs and bill parcells when we come back as we continue across the country and around the world. Have you written a book? You can become a published author with door and publishing the nation's. 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We're talking about his outstanding book again, I WANNA. Recommend to you. It's called guts ingenious. The story of three unlikely coaches who came to dominate the NFL in the nineteen eighties. We've talked about Bill Watts, let's talk about Joe Gibbs for just a moment. It's interesting as I think about him and The Times I interacted with him. I didn't see him as a particularly successful coach in the early days. Tell me a little bit about his transition and development as a football coach. He had a really good run in San Diego, but it was a very quiet run. And he was offensive coordinator and Dan fouts was quarterback and oddly enough who did he replaces offensive coordinator it was bill wash and you know. A very funny story. Well, not funny to him at the time. But when bill told him that he was taking the Stanford job after a year at San. Diego fouts was despondent because bill should basically resurrected Dan fouts career in San Diego and It's out said look I. I might have been traded or released because I was really struggled bill bill straighten it out and he says I'm going to Stanford I'm I'm really bummed out a terrible last game against the raiders. So along comes Joe Gibbs but he does a really good job at Joe is much more stubborn coach than bill was bill bill. You know hell to his principles but joe would not let Dan do anything that he wanted if it didn't coincide with what bill with Joe Wanted. So it'll Dan fouts little frustrated with Joe Gibbs at times and but the Joe Gibbs did a terrific job. Now, he was an unknown coach though you don't you don't get the publicity now as a coordinator that you do in today's game. So he was relatively unknown coach but Bobby Beth general manager and in Washington, and he goes Jackson Cookies, I got. A guy in San Diego that I want you to look at I I really think he's going to be the head coach and his name. His name is Joe. Gibbs now, ten Jack Kente Cook not hurt him and brought him into New York for an interview. Joe's extremely nervous. They go to one of Jack and cooks buildings in new. York. Own Skyscraper and. Jack Kente Cook looks out of the window and sees the Chrysler building and says, Joe Gibbs Shit at billy over there. I own it. That point it's like, Oh, my God I'm I'm I'm dead. There's no way I'm getting this job and Bobby Beth you know worn sneakers and a shirt and a in a polo shirt and didn't get dressed up and job up got mad at Bobby for that. But he hired him Jack Kente Cook said at his press conference I, Hire Joe Gibbs my coach and you know like he had known him for a year or so. But he did struggle that I share they were five and would you gets tried to do in Washington was import the San Diego offense. that Don Coryell had built up and air coryell and he and he couldn't do. It was playing in the NFC east it was it was a black and blues type division where it was, you know blood and guts running the football passing when you had to and Joe was just not succeeding they lose five games. And at that point, he says I, I gotTa jump this offense and I can't do this. So he takes the amazing step of. Going through a running offense goes to a a to back at that time. And Ditches San. Diego. Offense at five games into the season I that that's almost unheard of you spend the entire off season and training camp in stolen your offense, and then you junk it but he had to do it. and. Then eventually, John Riggins convinced Joe Gibbs let me be your guy. I'll I'll make you famous I'll take you to the super bowl and and away they went they they they won Eight that first season after going on five got some confidence had an off season program for the players the next year, and they won the super bowl in Joe Gibbs a second year. which was the strike year of nineteen, eighty two and and it Kinda took off from there and Joe Gibbs became legendary for his running offense that featured John Riggins and later a bunch of other players and he ended up winning three super bowls with three quarterbacks. None of whom got close to go into the hall of fame we have about a minute before we have to transition. Over to parcells. But I know from experience that every coach, even the most successful ones will look back and lament about one particular play or one particular game that they had i. think you know the one I'm talking about the Super, Bowl and the play called with the screen pass just before halftime that the raiders intercepted and it was all over with after that who called that play I believe that was gibbs because he took the fall for saying and and he remembered he's laughing when he's telling me, he says, you know one year I'm a genius after win the Super Bowl next year I'll buffoon Lama buffoon any cracks up I said who called you the phone, the papers it was a big headline. He's a buffoon for for call that play I believe was Jack's cleric who did that pass rate it back for a touchdown and and that was really the story of that that Second Super Bowl for Joe Gibbs when he lost it to the raiders in it pretty you know. Ban Fashion and and he was routed was humbling experience for him and I think he used it as motivation moving forward. They Never WanNa let something like that happen. Again, let's talk about bill parcells a brash young coach with a big mouth on a bigger personality found himself halfway out the door through his first season as head coach of the New York. Giants, pick it up from there. By the end of the season in one, thousand, nine, hundred, three, the giants went three, twelve and one at twenty, five players on injured reserve bill parsoes lost parents within a seven month span that year he lost a coach running backs, coach Bob Ledbetter. died in September and it was just a mess from start to finish. He'd been a popular gregarious linebackers and coach and then defensive coordinator players love him. and. He was going to be fired. The team had decided. We were going to fire bill ourselves. They told George Young Higher Howard Schnellenberger the Miami Coach Would WanNa National Championship Schnellenberger can't get out of his contract. and. They give bill parsoes one more chance, and he made the most of that chance and he knew going into that nineteen eighty four season at that was it and they struggled a little bit during the early part of that season at a game in Atlanta where it was looking like they were going to lose the game that did pull it out. They had a goal line stand and they turn it around from. There and bill parcells who had famously given Scott runner the starting job in nineteen ninety-three over Phil Simms ever made that mistake again and he got his confidence. He got his legs and he got a players to believe in him and they went on a charge within three years. They won their first of two super bowls and bill parcells developed some fine players along the way including Phil Simms and most notably Lawrence Taylor. You know it's interesting but I think bill parcells of the three was maybe the best as far as evaluating talent. Now, correct me if you think, I'm wrong about that. Well, he you know at that point, she didn't have a say in personnel and that frustrated him at that time you know George John was the general manager but but George made some very good move for that organization moves that maybe bill parsoes would not have made. So like for instance, Bill Parsoes did not want draft Jeff, hostetler and Georgia did an hostetler turned out to be a great pick because he ended up beating Joe Montana and Nineteen Ninety, NFC championship game. to get to the super bowl and the giant says up wearing their second super bowl. I, think parcells as he got older and after the after he leaves the Patriots and gets a chance to be the general manager of effectively with the jets and then he gets more more say with the cowboys he did have some good personnel moves but I say that of the three Walsh was probably the best evaluator of talent despite the fact that he didn't want Steve Bills at one point to be a quarterback seventy nine and not Joe Montana. And thing that that thing changed there. But I think I think Walsh kind of new personnel a little bit better. Mistakes along the way not drafting Tom Brady and you know it's probably the the biggest one that he that he you know because player did he didn't take but but I think overall his his his drafting was pretty sound along with John. McVeigh. Who was the perfect guy to work with? Bill Walsh just was willing to stay in the background willing to do the grunt work and and let bill have the you know have the final say have the have the fame really. I agree with you and of course, being so close to Bill I you know people are saying, how can you possibly even say that but I, knew the system, the west coast offense because I had seen it at Stanford when he was there how he be teams that had superior talent with that west coast. Darrin Nelson. Of course, you think of all the other players that have had their and so I say that because I didn't know if he was going to be able to find the talent, he wanted for the system he wanted to have in the NFL. Yeah. That's an interesting point and it goes back to remember in Cincinnati had had a quarterback problem where there was an injury to starting it up getting Carter for from the bears and he had no arm and. Furniture Carter might have given birth to the West Coast offense when you when you think about it because he had no arm and the loss, the offensive coordinator for Paul Brown, he's got to figure out how do I? How do I function with a quarterback that can throw the ball and thus was born this idea that okay. Let's let's just possess the ball and at the short accurate passes. Virgil. Carter was smart quarterback who could get you know he was very accurate. And the comparisons of him to then Joe Montana. Now Virgil Carter was obviously no Joe Montana. But he had the kind of same gift of being accurate being smart and being you know kind of shifting in the backfield where you get away from trouble and and that's really where it started so that west coast offense was. You know was really born in Cincinnati and that's why I think you really. Should call it the Bill Walsh all fence because that's really what it is. Bob I wanNA thank you very much. Congratulations on this book I'm looking forward to reading it well written I know because of your background and you are welcome here anytime. So if you find yourself in San, Francisco come on by, we'll have something to eat and we'll do another interview. I do appreciate very much. Enjoyed the heck add. Thank you very very much for having me Bob Glauber and again, guts and genius the story of three unlikely coaches who came to dominate the NFL in the eighties and their influence in the modern NFL in the eleven. Super Bowls from eighty one to ninety one teams built by Walsh Gibbs parcels played in ten of them and they won nine championships we continue on Sports Pylon. And now today's eating tip of the day presented by free all deep penetrating oil. You're all set for a quick tire rotation until you have a rusted on wheel Coco's Lug nuts in penetrating oil. Let them sit for a few minutes and you'll have them often a cinch. 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So there's no risk for free information call now one, eight, hundred, two, hundred, Fifty, eight, eighteen, that's one, eight, hundred, two, hundred, Fifty, eight, eighteen, one, eight, hundred, two, hundred, eighteen. This is America Sports Sports Talk Show? Sports Byline USA. Here's Ron Bar. President trump is awarded Babe Ruth, the legendary baseball player who died in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, eight with the Presidential Medal of freedom and the medal was presented in a White House ceremony to Tom. Stevens Ruth's grandson Stephen said at the time it's wonderful that he's finally being recognized. But what the heck took so long and Tom Joins us here on sports byline Tom. Why do you think it took so long to recognize Babe Ruth I honestly don't know. But if I had to guess, I would say it have been. perceived. reputation from from earlier. Playing this the day Bruce The first thing Vaden's career from a behavior standpoint was considerably different from the second ten. Challenge right around eighteen, twenty, five, which was. A disastrous your for him and even even babe realized that Even, he couldn't burn the candle and he turned everything completely around you got a personal trainer and everything but. It doesn't get credit for that and if if as I said if I had to I, think that that's reason why. I and and sometimes president said. President trump felt. Just, they just not aware unless they researching that particular individual has or has not been inducted and perhaps many of the previous presidents assumed that he had been in got. Quite. Surprising. Actually, is George H W Bush He didn't exactly have a relationship with Dave, but I have pictures of him with them when he was being. Captain of the baseball team when he attended jail and given that he said, that was one of the greatest moments of his life. And giving that relationship I'm I'm somewhat surprised that it didn't come up again but in any event my gratitude to president trump for finally currently writing this. Your Mom Julia is one hundred into. She's still alive. She was adopted by Ruth in one thousand, nine, hundred, twenty nine. Tell me more about her and her relationship with Babe. Row. Anyone that Assar even today she still calls him Daddy. now it's kind of funny. So that would be a week or so ago kids very even now as one hundred two. She somewhat incredulous that. her mother Mary Babe Ruth, and that she became part of his household. But she She said, you know they just just the other day. Some you know Daddy. Mac. He his name, he gave me a home. even gave her blood What she She contracted strep throat when she was around seventeen and it's not just a simple matter taking on. The Arctic back then was in the hospital for two weeks and had to have surgery and a blood transfusion and they've typed out and the match, and you don't need it and she needed so. Concerned that as complete and she had she had his his blood. As well so When did she realize what her father did? She I've asked her that and her earliest. Recollection just your recollection baseball. Probably around the age of four or five. but she I think she started to become aware of. His place in the world speak around the age of up seven or or or. You know it's interesting because you know he got very very popular and everything, and for kids when they're young, it's hard for them to understand that. How did she grasp it? Well she. Didn't I didn't talk a great deal about baseball when he called home he kind of he kind of left it. At the at the ballpark. dowse slump he didn't come home and. And worry about it. You know tomorrow's Consistent with his attitude tomorrow's and other. Things that are interpreting them you know every strikeout brings me closer to home run or hard to beat some up. Here as inspiration. Just he didn't worry about it too much and is it is there is a book that has come out and there are actually three books settlement published here about their. Kind of attest to his continued relevance. And he's he's quoted. as saying I, I think about what? Talk. When I'm I'm swinging swinging football. I'm. In the middle of swing but she she don't get the definitely asked him about he didn't. Volunteer Awkward. She had to shed to ask him questions. But of course, a lot of this came from her friends and of course I got older and. Started dating she had she couldn't shower if it's the boys really wanted to choose day her or think you wanted to. The other thing too is is that I think he's probably known off the field for two trademarks and one of them was his frequent trips to orphanages in hospitals. Now, your mother was adopted by Babe Ruth One, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty, nine, but give everybody a brief. Back story on his interest in orphanages and hospitals with kids. I think in part. From His upbringing. As you know. He didn't have a normal he didn't have the normal L. EAL upbringing that most of us take take for granted he replaced in and. Home. For Boys where he was actually going to be. trained. Taylor. I. Think he did I. I know for sure that this guy, you know he he was only seven years old. As. Parents just gave up on parenting him when he was seven. And was remanded to the to the custody of his home. But I i. think that feeling of abandonment. Now, while he wasn't an orphan I remember there were and I think I think that upbringing. His. Affinity, and analyst for Kids. Because you see just simply didn't have that have got normal upbringing I think too that the the adoration of offense when he became. So popular was perhaps a replacement or substitute in some ways for the love he didn't. Receive when he was a child. The other thing that most people don't understand about him is that he had a willingness to play alongside black players when that wasn't something that was fashionable. Yeah. It's Off. When you consider raised. Southern. Baltimore and he had he was when it came to play baseball with black he was essentially colorblind. Banks back as well new. Types now and was very much a similar opinion whether it was Buying, find storming at the end of the season for for some haters provided him with a very good income and what what better, what better way to showcase the tower of black ballplayers than to play against them. He had no problem with that at all and I'm actually very glad they did. Because number one, it shows how forward thinking he wasn't number two. One of the things that I have heard is, oh, we'll never know a great group was because he never played against the great black ball players well, he did. He. He he played a I. Don't. Think I've read accounts pretty did. I've talked to some biographers. You don't think that that it. It came true but and Ken Burns says thirteen injury and baseball. Harkening was was devoted to black baseball and Buck O'Neil who was kind of spokesman whereas. Quite. Quite fun today played against him and I'm retiring he really had nothing but good things to say about him prepping elephant. They did A to He was friends with. Bill bojangles Robinson you might remember the Song Mr Bojangles, the nitty gritty dirt band did. He he took bill bojangles Robinson through the Yankee clubhouse in the early thirties, and you can just guess what sort of a reaction at gut. I don't think any I. Don't think anybody say could probably pull that off but I can't recognized by the black community for his efforts and I also know that That Joe Louis invited baby he turned up in the catskills is all the New York fighters did and he invited to to come in and hang within that is training camp because he wanted to thank him for the efforts said he had made towards improving race relations. We know that they've advocated for for integrating baseball and. Are some fairly strong theories that that's one of the main reasons why he was not offered the opportunity to manage because both major league baseball and the owners were afraid that he would advocate for the integration of baseball and it's no, it's no coincidence they kennesaw Mountain Landis was retired and gone when branch rickey brought Jackie Robinson and actually integrated baseball probably would not have happened. Headland is still down the commissioner I. Think he waited deliberately until that time a lot of people don't know this but in. One thousand nine forty two ruth was as a young child, a person who could speak German and he signed onto an an open letter to the German people denouncing the Hitler policy with cold blooded extermination of the Jews in Europe and call them to overthrow a regime, which is the infamy of German history. Now, when you take into consideration, the way has stance in the way he felt about the playing with black ball players and then his position on World War Two and Germany where did that come from? I know that He's he identified very strongly with his. German roots and as you mentioned. he had plenty was younger it was essentially A. Jewish. German household. And he did he did speak German when he was very little, he's probably spoke. German. Better, than he did, he did English course he lost that over time they traced they've traced to at least on the paternal side they trace them back to German communities in in. His he he he was pitchy on it. And You know he went on the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in forty one in in he threw out he was throwing memorabilia Japanese memorabilia from their from their trip, the the the Best Israel. That they put together in nineteen thirty four when a number of of famers as well as babe went to Japan to play baseball in the hopes that it might stave off. What everybody for anyone who was kind. And they could see the winds are. Already starting to stir between Japan and and S, and there was something of a hope that a shared love of baseball would help to stave that off and certainly. A successful trip but unfortunately, impairments pan was was held down on on moving forward with their agenda and they did he was also very very involved in selling war. As well, and I think that these these various topics that we've been discussing I think these are all what contribute to is having justifiably. The metal of the Medal of freedom because I I, I kind of thought of that without award is being a recognition of. He had done beyond baseball baseball got started but he you know belong over a hundred. Different. Charities and foundations. There was a foundation established in his name with a portion of his well, he passed away. And It's you know I read a few blogs about how you know what it gave you justify. Earning the medal of honor all I think that the that that occurrence actually gave us the forum. To bring these things out and make people more aware of that side of what he did particularly I visited. All throughout his is playing colonel and became even more active. Once once he retired, we only have thirty seconds left and briefly. What do you think he was most proud of with his life or baseball career? I know I know that his One of his proudest. Of which he was most proud was actually pitching record Doubtless with the with the red sox and and when he picks for them and. Nineteen fourteen through Nineteen Nineteen, it was twenty, nine and two consecutive. Scoreless innings. In World Series play. And also another record daddy holes, which will probably never never be touched because of the way the plays most. Useful, but he pitched the. The world series this year, they were talking about how they had pitched the longest complete game in world series history, fourteen innings and He wanted the game two to one. I WANNA. Thank you for joining us Tom Very interesting story about your grandfather come back and join us again. Take care. Thank you very much for having me. I enjoyed talking Tom Stevens with us. We've got you on America's sports talk show. Hello and welcome back to the Ronnie Deutsche Tax Program on the line is Paul from California Hi Paul. 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Rut Control proposition twenty one but allow rent control for properties built before two thousand, five lifting restrictions that were put in place by the cost of Hawkins Rental Housing Act of Nineteen ninety-five Rene Moya Director of the Yes on prop twenty, one campaign says. Kobe unaffordable rents meant to many families particularly, people of color were being affected something like half a million renters and their families are being pushed out of their homes everything year the covid nineteen pandemic is, of course, only need that work. Opponents say more rent control could backfire prompting landlords to exit the market shrinking housing stock even further. I'm Suzanne Potter. Proposition, twenty one also attempts to stop runaway rental amounts. My limiting increases fifteen percent. For the first three years when a new tenant moved in. This is pianists. About thirty percent of Colorado's new poll say they can't afford regular meals a rate that's tripled since the start of covid nineteen are Diane Ord reports hunger fighting advocates urging lawmakers to increase food assistance programs to help. The survey on hunger in Colorado also shows among people of Color on forty percent or struggling to put food on the table compared to twenty five percent of whites Elliot car with Hunger Free Colorado, which released the report notes that blacks and Latinos were disproportionately affected by the pandemic on all fronts might have had underlying hope conditions that lead to higher rates of not only sickness but actually that's during the panic and a lot of that. Does have systemic roots and just lack of access to regular food or health care acres group is calling on Congress to boost snap benefits formerly known as food stamps by fifteen percent for the foreseeable future and continue emergency pandemic allotments says, Congress also needs to prioritize food assistance in any Kovic relief package I'm Diane. Bernard. The survey also finds that hugger remains a top concern for about one in five folks and Colorado William continues to. Be Pervasive problem among Michigan Youth and it's more common among high school students who identify as Lbj Q. Plus young people who are bullied or harassed are at greater risk for depression thoughts of suicide and substance abuse Jamie Earn Heim with Michigan Organization on Adolescent Sexual. Health Explains Pandemic. Any current political climate are both intensifying bullying based on sexual orientation or gender identity she says, young people often find themselves dealing with the problem alone you are. The ones often fighting for Federer sections or having people take harassment or violence seriously, and that's a travesty. The adults are the ones that set the culture. They're the ones that set the climate don't have the power her time contents addressing bullying is more than a single conservation, but an entire culture shift while progress has been made in recent years onto quality, she says discrimination against some groups continues in the harm it causes is too often minimized. Mary Sherman reporting. Finally, Nadia Ramadan tells US Southern Flounder is critical to the fishing economy of eastern North Carolina, but it's populationist window to dangerously low levels senior marine scientists at the north. Carolina Wildlife Federation Dr. Louis Daniel says the States Marine Fisheries Commission has chosen its own targets for commercial fishing and dismissed science I mean we don't have a recovered stop two. So four after twenty some years of managing under the fisheries reform, we should have been much further along and yet we don't have a rebuilt stock all that time. This is my clifford four public news service member illustre supported on some America's most interesting radio stations and online at public news service DOT ORG at America. Good evening, everyone and welcome in. It is foul territory of these sports byline broadcast network. Jeff Rich with you from Phoenix Arizona. Standing by she'll with speen in just a moment. It was a night that we had football and we just came off the night without any sports. Oh. Georgia southern and south. Alabama you're watching it if you're not into the fully into the whole NFL thing and even if you are. NFL Game US one of those classic Thursday Night Football Intra Division match ups in a division that we don't care about involving teams that we don't particularly care about everybody understands this year the NFC south all about Brady's box and breezes saints nonetheless. Atlanta just couldn't get in their own way enough to lose their seventh game. So other prove on the year to to at six we have your presto and Colorado state in the mountain. Last, we had some sun belt football. Now that there's other stuff going on, you know kind of feel like have A. Lot Better, goodall watcher Gen Have you seen the Sundial football get a little bit get a little bit less TV time in this household. Yeah Good to Y'all ready for Halloween weekend I. AM Halloween's my favorite. You got cast picked out now. See I should know these things but I really don't. So I find out on the air now I didn't have anything. ANYTHING RIGHT UP FOR US this year because it's Cova gear. So I think we're just GONNA hang out by ourselves a little white SOx decided to. Dress up his nineteen eighty, three through further organization backup forty years. I have no idea how that happened. But I spent a lot of my day doesn't really got that out yet. Oh Yeah. The socks bunch of fun candidates to choose from but Tony Larussa. Seventy six years young on October four age isn't even what amazed me about the higher of have not even GonNa consideration that he was seventy six it's. Eddie's Tony with Tony, larussa yeah. Not not the greatest higher. If you asked me, we'll get into it on the other side. She's General Jeff Territory it's sports overnight America. This is the sports byline broadcast network and we'll be right back. This is sports overnight America. I'm going to tell you how you can get real healthcare for as little as six dollars a day. Yes. 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Short Addison cross the diamond. Socks would. Be. Sucks a game. Another one. Sex. I wanted second to out ball barrel over the head of tax rebates. And the White Sox won. The world. Series. You're listening to foul territory with Jeff and generous towel. Territory. Shoe off the generous vomit sounds from dekalb Illinois actually probably, Joliet? Illinois. Circuit. You're already in Phoenix. Program everyone. Jeff Rich with you from Phoenix Arizona I think important to you disclose that our relationships more of less based on our hatred of the White Sox at our discussed with the fact that Major League baseball is so far two, thousand, five that it was the white sox able to bring home a world series that was terrible. I. Should've been happy because the city Chicago got a championship fit. No like there's plenty of other teams bring Chicago a championship where we should have had rely on the white sox to take care of it. You know I it's like telling me that the bengals did well to console me over after a browns laws it just means. It means less than nothing. It is actually more insulting that you would try to console me with such nonsense nonsense logic. Y-you pick you live in New York you pick the jets or the giants you pick. The Yankees or the mets live in Chicago. You pick the white socks or you come from a family of criminals in all likelihood. Savvy Guy, making all your whites. I've stealing all your white sox jokes from you. But. The base job who of all. Jerry Reinsdorf decides he's got a higher Tony Larussa manager. Yeah. Tons of great candidates out there. There was a lot of suspicion that he would pick up someone from the Astros because you had AJ hinch elise who had a one year suspension but then he served it in was available. But yeah at some point, they decided to pick up. Tony Larussa. Also talked to Alex Cora in other one of the cheaters Sandy alomar junior jobs spot is but not rumored shoe potentially be one of those yell the next guy up. Everybody's kind of passed on him. including the giants going on with with Gabe Kaplan I seek met with. Some surprise and I'm going to tell you the best managerial candidate out there. Would probably be record to re at this but this is the second time. Chicago's done this to him. Yeah. I don't understand why Chicago doesn't want him around I. Can the Bulls Higher Bizarre had cake in the Blackhawks, hire him as their head coach and they're just. Hire, somebody else do without at least the white sox had the decency. Knock the. At least White Sox, have the decency to say Hey Rick Gail each time but. You're going to go in a different direction wears cups kind of Higher Joe Madden well, regrets are still thought that it was his job. Yeah. Yeah. That was actually six years ago today that the cubs hired on Madame. So. Madden in twenty fourteen to the cobs Larussa you know madden just looked events always looked old. Yeah I venture vans younger than Larussa. If. He's if you was born after October fourth nineteen, forty, four the yes. He would absolutely after find out see so. It's not just that he's old nineteen fifty four. Okay. So the ten years. So Joe Zoe chose like my parents age. twenty Larussa. He's kind of a Tumultuous Ryan. Since he last managed in the big. Leagues. First of all I'm GonNa say that Mike Mulvaney Mike Scheldt of both. Done just fine with the Saint Louis Cardinals. You could say that that's part of the culture. Maybe it was the culture at some of the players that I mean he. Had He had Albert pools for a long time he had mark Maguire yet Jose Kaneko. We're also on the anniversary of the athletics finally knocking off the giants back in eighty nine because you delayed the world series ten days after the. Earthquake that halted game three and four from happening. But the as did win back then but they haven't one sense cardinals one at least with metheny in twenty eleven Larussa with them in two thousand insects. But he has a managed that's twenty eleven and I would say that the game the game itself is quite revolutionized. YELP since then. So he you know you've got much of a bunch of other headlines to get out. Let's Let's find out circling back to the White Sox Tony Larussa conversation. Yeah. Because that's just isn't gonNA stopping funny anytime soon don't we talk about that for months we got offseason talk about how Tony Larussa the white sox. is going to either work or fail miserably. So. Today Trevor Lawrence, and unfortunately the latest big name in college sports that we know of to be affected by Rona. He's the biggest name in college or did I would say that his TV travis at add Ohio state quarterback Justin Fields you don't Act Jones of Alabama but Alabama's kind of an ensemble I mean savings at it. So saving a big name to have it. Your you've got I Paul Chris that coach Wisconsin that's a big story going on Trevor Lawrence. Close is going to beat Boston College Without Trevor Lawrence by if he's not back for that Notre Dame game on on November seventh, you're talking about covert rocking the season by onfield results. Notre Dame is good enough to beat Clemson's second or third string quarterback, but you would certainly think that it's a disadvantage for clemson absolutely. I'd given how? Get. Suspended this spend from the very beginning especially that championship game were in have a loss since he's been there. Well they lost in the national championship but that's inside of that. We that that is it last last before that was on a Friday night at Syracuse and Kelly Bryant was quarterback of the team back. Then it might have been watts, but I wanna say that it was between. Shawn Watson and charts. Dave. Is a big deal. I did the Wisconsin thing is a really big deal because you got. Nebraska. Once again, saying, let us play somebody. The big tag cannot provide us with games. We've fought to play with these video. We've got these these players on scholarship. The trained up their NFL draft stock to can wants to have another crack. The Big ten championship. By you know without be without getting their win over Wisconsin maybe they're not gonNA have a chance to recover from that loss to Ohio state Wisconsin. You have to get on the field eventually or these no contests are GONNA have to turn into victories for their opponents who at two through no fault of their own are at the mercy of Wisconsin's handling of a public health crisis. Yeah. It's just never stops getting any less wacky. All right. What else? Go. What else do we got to Georgia's teams played and to Georgia teams won tonight what. But more the Georgia Southern Eagles win over the southern Alabama Jaguars or Falcons over panthers. So Panthers over? Jaguars. Let's say you have eagles over Jaguars or Falcons over panthers birds. On. Large cats and either instance. ooh interesting large birds picking large cats. Yeah. Yeah. Well. I if it meant anything to Atlanta might be detrimental to you picking second behind the jets and the upcoming draft You know for Carolina I, it just puts them further outside of the picture I. The Matt Rule. Is You know Matt rule leading that team has kind of a work in progress you brings a different attitude to that team. Aikman mentioned it on the broadcast how Jimmy Johnson brought that college attitude to the Dallas Cowboys, and you know. The suffice to say turned them around Matt Rules GonNa take a awhile with Carolina Teddy Bridgewater just isn't as exciting as he was first coming out of Louisville he suffered under some leg injury is not quite as mobile as used to be but you Carolina wasn't getting very far with Cam. Cam. That's far different times. All right. So what else do we have gone on to O. Rien Brown and the brewers? One more year left brewers are like, no, give you four millions and not play than fifteen million play. Ryan. Borana for. For the first time in his career former MVP. Scott Hundred. Five billion dollar deal and they wanted out of the last year was their option to do so I, I don't know how hot the market's going to be for Ryan Braun while these teams are screaming poverty so bad year thought to be a free agent going to be kind of strange not seeing Ryan Braun playing for the Milwaukee brewers are a doll will SAPA right there. She's general. Jeff. It's foul territory sports overnight America. This is sports by broadcast network. Well up some scores for you when we come back. has run out Lsu is the college football national champion. Forty two, twenty, five over the Clemson Tigers. This is sports overnight America. Have you written a book you can become a published author with Dorrance publishing the nation's oldest publishing services. 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Hello again, I am Jen wrench and I'm always keeping score for sports overnight America over on Thursday night football falcons finally did some things right and got a second one on the season beating the panthers twenty five to seventeen. We had a couple of college Matt's matchups first. One was University of Southern Alabama versus Georgia southern. Georgia southern rallied and put up fourteen in the fourth quarter to win twenty four to seventeen. And Colorado State is taking on. Fresno. That game is not over yet. However, Fresno is up thirty eight to ten and there's a minute half bucks so it's over but that might not be the final score but it's over I. Think from the officials CNN election desk we can call that one four Fresno state at this point I think we'll be okay I mean has the ball again but again, they didn't have. have any twenty eight point. There arsenal so that Colorado state. And Elkins win. Gets. The Carolina Panthers. Reminds me the old fam- Family Guy Cut away where Brooks says, you know we can't afford. We can't afford to buy brand names anymore. So lowest at divide Terry, the tiger and you know it's it's an invitation of Tony The tiger and he says their food. Jets. hamsters. Back. Free Brain is registration. Day Yeah, I've done this week so i. was football man there was nothing there's nothing to sell about this game. You Know Todd Gurley is best known for scoring when he wasn't supposed to your Matt Ryan who has done Lop Not enough for them to win many games this year they're plan with. Raheem Morris Their head coach because. You're Arthur blank. said. Of Dmitry off and Deanne Clin. Doubt, they wanted to be around for much longer of this this mass, but it was a good knife Lanta. Got Involved in the act seven catches one, hundred, thirty, seven yards Matt Ryan even. Got It done with his legs with a rushing touchdown on Thursday. Atlanta's not a terrible team. They're just a team not winning. They're just have a lot of follies this season. That they're not following through, they're not doing very well it's special teams, and in fact, they should put the game away. Guys Yankel young boy coup. Or kick it feels. But then they gave him you know Kinda. Supposed to be automatic after a touchdown late in the game and he misses the extra point and these twenty five seventeen goes twenty, six, seventeen nobody's thinking about the final drive bridgewater eds up throwing an interception lead add. Carolina was another one of those teams that lost to the NFL bear's loss to the Atlanta Falcons cowboys almost lost to the Atlanta. Falcons. Four or five players from just being another mediocre team rather than be one of the teams with the worst record in the league. That's Kinda rough see, and we see what a game of inches it was the touchdown pass to Julio Jones's the defender I mean they criticized the defender right up until the replay you see the defender gets his hand on the ball. He just didn't get enough sand on the ball it goes through his fingertips. Atlanta gets the touchdown You know. Two teams playing without Gill a lot of what they need. I think that the Falcons downgraded extremely a tight end from Austin Hooper to. Aden hearst but. It's so weird when when things evolve you know not seeing Cam as the. Cantor's quarterbacks. It's almost weirder to me than seeing the Patriots without Brady because at least the Patriots got somebody. That's your plea. Super Bowl in Cam Newton that was a star a Big Star in this league very likable probably Camden and probably more likable than Brady. It's not a slight. This isn't a slight on Teddy Bridgewater at all but. With Ron Rivera gone, it's just a deal keith out. There's there's just not a lot about. Carolina ended about Christian McCaffrey Christian McCaffrey doesn't play right she's McCaffrey plays it's a it's entirely different type of bogging. Full we saw some We saw some fun things. We saw fake punt we saw fake punt work usually see those kind of go splat right Time like bonds, but they they pulled that off and. It was a guy named Chan Yeh, Chin and I wanted to say that the you'll we can have some Chin Sanity put. It was literally one play should get the the name of the Games finisher and their bloody. Ray Wilson he had the final interception and. You know it was. Atlanta, over Carolina, in a game in the grand scheme of things that. Didn't mean a whole heck of lot I think that there were other news items obviously. toiler. So. Let me give you the resume. Their he's the three stops, he never had a losing record. Is this you're right. Now he's not have a losing record doesn't Jason? Overall they were Well. They have the that Weird Nineteen eighty-one with the first that second half You know they were thirty one and twenty two in the first half yeah. They were twenty three and thirty in the second half. Seventy and ninety in nineteen eighty But he was eighty, seven, seventy, five, they won ninety nine games in nineteen, eighty, three the. Only they finish. I Dow this this I don't know what this is first of three but Yeah seventy nine to eighty six with the Chicago White Sox Eighty, six to ninety, five with the Oakland. Athletics. Ninety? Ninety six to twenty eleven. So he was actually hired by the athlete other. That's what this means. It was the second of two managers in seventy nine. He was the first of three managers in eighty six and it was the third of three managers for the as in eighty six. And died, he had the whole season in ninety six all the way through a twenty eleven What's the world series in two thousand, four they want in two, thousand six and they wanted in twenty eleven as well. Actually I thought that they needed already taken over. So he wants with Saint Louis Euler one one with the Oakland Athletics, which is a little bit sad considering that he had. Mark mcgwire and Jose could SACO. Yeah. They were probably juicing by who cares. A. Damn. Who Cares? Tony Larussa certainly didn't I believe that The White Sox were ready to hire a cheater in AJ hinch or. Alex Cora surprised that we in here, cal Carlos Beltran is name in the mix. They had other candidates. Candidates for that, they're they're familiar with I have worked with Jerry Reinsdorf Jerry Reinsdorf just decided whatever analytics guys came up with me nothing. We're going to go with Tony Larussa add totally Orissa has only reputation for not working not not playing well with young the young players. That goes to the diamondbacks organization where he just completely botched the whole thing. They've they put it. They made him the bizarre of baseball and. It felt like the Kremlin here. Higher Dave Dave Stewart to be the GM and he just made some godawful moves and here you are a guy that doesn't get along with the the young players allegedly has a problem with black players so. What do you think it is as thirty first. Commander said I was GONNA? Say? Anderson's GonNa have a big problem with them Specifically. The kneeling thing alice has been very vocal about how he feels about those who kneel and that's Tim Anderson's thing. So I mean I. Understand like first game that they play. I. Don't even think they make it a month before. Before Fisher flying I'm GonNa tell you. Tim Anderson Louis Robber usually Meta's He's going to have problems with all of these guys. You managed to manage can say, but can take you know the Cuban bore of Cuban descent but he was limit his brother were American kids and. You know I think dad, this white sox thing they played loose. You know everything was nicer threat to rea- and it's like they're they're trying to bring in a An ex drill sergeant from the. Army. Corps. Reference with Tony Larussa. Bring this militant guide or to terrain everyone in i. just think it's GonNa. Be asked her I might my interest in the white sox definitely increased greatly. Today, we've got a lot of talent and no matter how much behaved the bran. I think do we could appreciate all the young players that they have there that you know Kinda like the San Diego padres but they're not going to San. Diego padres because they decided that they were GonNa Hire Tony Larussa. After nine years out of the game to manage their team and I think it's going to be a disaster for the. Object. Fall territory it sports overnight America WanNa. Give a shout out troops list out there on the American forces. Network fullback. Swung drive in right field that ball is hit well to the track to the. Site partly. CLOUDY SMART Is Sports Overnight America Hey I'm andy. 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Degenerates listing out there it'd be gambling gambling and fantasy football and. Things the greatly legit I don't partaken. We then see football for a season or CEO and it was just having another job. Not a fan I didn't like it that a fan of the of the work that that's involved with it I. I'm actually not a fan of it on principle alone because I don't want to I'll our root for individuals? I'm a very much Jersey A. Jersey on the front I'm very much a name on the front of the Jersey versus the name on the back and the fantasy football takes out of the equation because you don't care of the team scores Guy Scores. At or you care if the Oh your opponents guy doesn't score or that your defense doesn't allow the points gets maybe the turnover, the interception. If they the if you just drafted all of all the players from Euro team, which I'm told it's kind of Faux Pas Jesse football it's pretty wins. It's pretty lame. Actually I've seen I've seen drafts with some of my friends from Ohio where they'll. They'll just take nothing but buck is. I'm going to know because the whole point of fantasy football is to construct these. Weird. Teams, kind of like, Lebron Green teams of who would be fantastic to play together. You know I wanNA model after the brunch every aspect of my life and I wouldn't WanNa play someone who just had all of the Patriots. All of you know who else has been good over the last couple of things that. The whole point of the of the way that she set it up is diversity. The NFL loves it because it's all Sunday ticket. Sunday ticket is you know I'm a great demographic for it because I live out of market has as you from your from your roots. But that's I. Mean I I really. We pay a lot for it. To Watch one team and you know as a bonus, the old verizon and will watch or watch other games. I don't feel like I get the enjoyment out of the whole portfolio like do the baseball package, the more baseball games there's always a fun team the Games are staggered. So there's there's five or six games late at night during the week, and then you'll staggered throughout the day our Sunday ticket I mean, you get the one o'clock games you get the four o'clock jeans and I'm talking to eastern time. So what's talking Pacific Time Pacific terms? Ten am one PM that changes a little bit for us. We've got this Get this crazy clock change coming up this week and everybody knows about it. At this point it happens every year happens twice a year they're. Manipulate your clock so that. Yet more daylight in summer, you don't get quite as much delay the summer I never really. Memorize the logic to it and I haven't had to worry about it. Last. Nineteen years except. To show that goes out at ten PM Pacific Time again, Monday through Thursday at ten o'clock. Where we get into the month of November Jen. Is Going to be eleven o'clock local. So it's By not changing our clocks where Affected if we do any dealings with anybody outside the state of Arizona. You've got to remember when YOU'RE UP VEGAS VERSUS UTAH. or OR DENVER, versus San Diego, or Los Angeles. I. Like I like it better being three hours if our. If we had a conversation about it and you just Kinda Shrug your shoulders like you know it is what it is. I have not one of those people. I do know people who own that our I can't get myself going. It never affected me. It's just. Whatever time it is. It's whatever time it is. I don't care I I get that I get that and I never concerned myself with losing sleep giving sleep. At Halloween because the the the bars were open an extra hour. So there were open till two and the two became one. So they rope from second one until two by the universe gets it get back in the in the spring spring months wed Twelve becomes one and then one becomes one again. Or we jump actually jump ahead. So twelve becomes one in one becomes to immediately, and at that point is the bars are closing an hour earlier you're shaving our off your part-time college life though we'll talk about college sports, your in a second, but I honor the browns playing the team from Las Vegas. It's not in Las Vegas, but I was going to go through some of the gambling odds it just for you know entertainment purposes because we're not gonNA take money from each other but. You looking at some of these games by give you the scenario you have to talk of making his first start for the dolphins rams going. For a nine am kickoff in south. Florida. Forty six points more or less than that game between the dolphins and the rams. Last. Okay. We're GONNA go with the the under and in this game with dolphins getting three and a half tech blow is first game. They're playing at home I like the dolphins actually upset the rams here not just about covering the three and a half the winning the game. Don't take my advice go go against me if anything so I don't feel responsible. For making you lose money I don't WanNa be any part of that life. All right. the Lions who pulled off a miraculous win. Thanks to todd. Gurley I got the Atlanta Falcons last week taking on the Indianapolis Colts in Detroit. The number on that game is fifty. Are we going over or under on that one? Still under. Gen Liken the unders. Gen. a big fan of the defense this week talking gambling odds here on the foul territory program as we get ready for week eight in the National Football League keeping going Vegas, and the Browns Browns of scored thirty points every time basically. In the Games they've won, they've only scored six or seven. In the Games they've lost Las Vegas Raiders early early kickoff for them as well Brown's getting two and a half in our giving two and a half in this one. But fifty point five are we go under the third time in a row here now? Get believe in Baker believing in. Believing in the two of the browns defense as well. I'm sure. Isn't say I think the the Vegas. Vegas is going to have a few more points than than the browns but oh yeah, you vegas to win to. That's that would be upset. Pick They are getting two and a half I'm going to go with the Browns I. I believe I'm GonNa. Go with the colts go with the Colts in Detroit I'm going to go with the With the Browns at home you know. If they win, they're going to cover it's two and half. So I've guide. Dolphins Colts Browns and you've got under under over between those first three games vikings in the packers the number is. One. Skin Kinda like little rivalry, THEIR MINNESOTA, and Green Bay. Yeah just as bad. Not, like each other then yeah I think we're going to go over real run out one and in this line I, like the packers to win I think this could be a close gave I might almost play the likings to cover brought up I want to stay with it. packers playing at Lambeau against the Vikings team has just not shown the ability to win our How about Patriots in bills lower number on this one? It's it's forty one. Dander K. A. Weather is going to be poor I think this is good week for the. Dodge gone with the under in four of the five games that we've You know that we've discussed here. Oh you know you put the packers you put the packers and Vikings under as well now put them over. Okay. Okay. So you got the browns and the packers games as overs you're going to go under forty one. So and I think that's a good pick new England without Julian Ataman Cam. Newton knows that he's got to play better but the bills are better team here that they're given four I eight patriots keep it close I think it's a low scoring game but I lake. I like the Patriots cover like the bills to win I. think that's kind of a cop out but I hear here we have our biggest spread of the day. Now the Kansas City chiefs are playing the number is forty nine. The teams that they're playing I think that it might be an insult to say that they're a small college level. They might be a a big team, the New York jets getting twenty points on the other point spread over or under forty nine in that one. Okay. So we're we're they like chiefs forty to nothing here. it's the jets I think it's gotTa be it over game I just because I think that the chiefs are GonNa score boatloads appointments, and they're going to have problems slowing down and keeping their foot off the gas. So I just want to be really ugly I'm fifty, six, fourteen something along those lines where the chiefs not only. Handle the over on their own but I also think that they easily cover the twenty points. All right. The game of the week steelers at Ravens that one said it forty six and a half. Stunning Kay I'M GONNA. Disagree with you on that one I think that that's that's an over type of game I think Despite, the fact that the good teams figure out Lamar I I think that that's probably. That's probably a pretty high scoring affair. All right So I'm GonNa go with the Pittsburgh steelers to e cover and probably win on the road. In that one we've got the titans and the bengals fifty three is the number. Is that a question 'cause. That's your section. I'm not following those numbers. Okay. So fifty, three points between titans in the Bengals I don't see that happening now. All Right saints and bears forty three and a half over under. Under under and I've got the saints winning now. Niners antsy chickens fifty three and a half. That what I could see getting a little high scoring. Okay. Okay. I go under on that one and then cowboys eagles are last over under forty, three points. And the cowboys don't play good enough defense for me to trust that one to stay under and then. Word or already into the following week year with the packers and the niners on Thursday night football. That's our full half ass excuse for a gambling segment here on the foul territory ever generates. I'm Jeffords this style territory on sports overnight America, we'll be right back. This is sports overnight America soon, guys. Are you sixty plus and love to travel introducing the senior travel discount network brought to you by low cost airlines call us anytime day or night and save up to seventy five percent, your airline and hotel reservations. We can help you save a ton of money to fly almost anywhere. 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Don't one themselves to the whole trick or treating experience, and then this year no matter where you are it's going to be different if it's not the canceled altogether Jen right. So, be safe out there this Halloween weekend obviously, our we've got some college football coming up on Friday We've got Hawaii and Wyoming We've GOT MINNESOTA INACTION Minnesota playing this this weekend I just had it up to you know obviously it's a big ten game in everybody's looking to. You know try to bounce back Minnesota trying to bounce back after their You know they're opening weekend lost to Michigan Nebraska and Wisconsin will not be playing and Oh. It's it's Maryland so Minnesota's playing Maryland that should give him a good opportunity to bounce back. That's like a free wind in the big. Ten. East Carolina's Plan Tulsa, and then Hawaii's playing in Laremy. What we're about to go off the air if we pack our bags and get the car, we could probably check that one out from War Memorial Stadium Seventy two, hundred feet above sea level leaguge. I should go back because I don't remember anything about that list. All right and we're watching Michigan Michigan State at noon on the East Coast Ninety am in the Pacific Time Zone on Saturday morning on box for gender rich for Scott on the other side of the glass, my name's Jeffersons but VAL territory sports overnight America Nasty to for more sports community next hour on the sports byline broadcast network. You're listening to the heartland news feed radio network. Live and HOTLANTA NEWSFEED DOT com. This stream supported by advertisers and contributions by. Follow us on facebook, twitter and instagram. PUBLIC SERVANTS TO INDUCE CAST for October thirtieth twenty twenty. By Clifford. Only a handful of days until November thirty election. Wisconsin. 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Around forty, six, forty, seven yard line somewhere in that neighborhood. It may be even closer just saw pop loose and he got lead up and a pounced on the ball. So we'll see where that decision is sixteen fourteen. They got the field goal as time expired. At the half to take the lead, you had a two Samuel touchdowns for Carolina the Panthers had lead but Matt Ryan. Wasn't having any of it and drove him down the field right before the half and they got to kick and the two point lead. That's where they stand right now I just watched. GIG. Guard. Musashi. Win The DELATOUR Middleweight Championship. In a win over Lima, COMING UP COLORADO STATE AND Fresno state and we'll keep our eyes on that Georgia southern game at the half tide towns. New. Orleans signing to Ferrall on the bench here on sports overnight America those with me. How `bout you urine urine urine. This is a Potter's field. When people can't pay for their funerals, they are buried here. 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You know you had a chance here you're up on them you're up eight and you let that slip away and then you're down to at the half and then you bring it out in the second half you get a break on on what looked like a catch fumble after Jack you get lit up fumble, they give him the break, they give him the ball back and they proceed to fail on fourth down the second time I've seen veil on for it down. I've switched around as I was watching the Baladora fight and then I was watching the South Alabama Georgia southern game, and I was watching all the coverage about a Trevor Lawrence. Covert and so I missed some of the game I did want to say though a emphatically, how boring I thought the game was. I mean to tell you. I was. Watching that game and I had more fun on the toilet. Honestly I've had better sessions in the header. More fulfilling experience spending time with the newspapers boards page. You know maybe even the phone and like a good you know twenty minute session in the men's room. I for home. Bathroom. Facility. To watching this boring football game, you can't even deny carver high I mean these teams what is going on they turn Auto Beckham. Let's pick I. Think they picked him because of the Falcons potential and Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and everyone thought the Falcons we're going to be good this year they're anything but and then the panthers when you get Matt Rule in there after they fire their coach and they finally get a coach in there to start over from scratch you knew they weren't going to be that good. There are surprisingly. Whatever five Leonard but I thought that are three and four they're a game under five hundred. So I thought that. This would be the last team I'd be seeing on a primetime games this year to be honest with you and It's sixty fourteen. So the score seems like it's a good game, but you can't deny this game has been disastrous. Yeah made it. It hasn't been. That overly exciting. That's for sure I. Thought Atlanta should be a lot more. They had a situation on their first drive of the game. They went right down the field and the guy kicked a field goal on fourth and inches. Nothing like doing that. When you're one in six I look they pick these games. They try to put everybody on Thursday night at least once because they want to make it fair that everybody has to have that short week. So you know everybody's got to do it eventually and they try to throw a couple of division games in there. I mean they all Carolina was gonNA stink to. So not the best game we've had better ones. That's for sure. Julio Jones just had a big first time. I think that he's moving the ball at will against. Carolina. Now since the second quarter like every time he drops back he's is connecting. He's got to nineteen now one pick. That led to the second Samuel touchdown, and now he's. Just Moving the ball a little bit, and then they you know screw it up here and they're both of these teams are so stagnant. It's not even funny. So we'll keep our eyes in this game. It's sixteen forty vowed right now I did want to talk about this Trevor Lawrence on a story because that's the big piece tonight for sure to dig into the top quarterback the heisman favorite hasn't lost a regular season game ever. And He's come down with covid. So he's tested positive for covert. He's in isolation. He will not play against Boston College in Chestnut Hill. So that's a given, he's not playing now the big question not so much BC. It's a I. Guess a ten day window. Carbohydrate I keep hearing about you ever ACC right so. He's not gonNA make the Notre Dame game as he. The Notre Dame game is nine days away if you're going from today and today is the day of the positive test and it has to be ten days from that Notre. Dame game is nine days a week from Saturday. So He's Door opens for the Irish. It does it does but it doesn't because you know what? All of the you know there's so many. Irish. Haters everywhere. You know what they're gonNA say listen there's no I'm not saying the Irish would beat them even without Lawrence because I'm sure that the Clemson. Would probably start for like ninety five percent of the power five teams but you already know what they'll say. The Irish. Did that game will typical Notre Dame getting a break Notre Dame? Gets a break you know what that'll be. So here it is what they're saying is. Dan. RADICO Vich told CBS. Lawrence doesn't negative for covered on Sunday with agency protocols recurring teams test three times during game late Sunday Wednesday Friday lawrence positive test came on Wednesday. Said, he's experiencing mild symptoms is unconfirmed. When. Those symptoms began. Kabul with ACC isolates protocols that appears visable. He could be cleared to play against Notre Dame on Saturday the seven. Well, yeah. Because that's exactly if they're saying that it's Wednesday then exactly ten day would be a week from tomorrow Friday. So. They'll they'll find their way just like saving his three negatives to be on the sideline. Against Georgia they'll find a way as long as he stays healthy to get Trevor Lawrence in. South. Bend next Saturday night you will lay is the backup, the five star Dj who you? GotTa Allay Way I? Don't even WANNA. Say That more than once. As being groomed for a chain over the game. It was rated by various critics services number one player in the class of twenty twenty s appeared in five games. And done nothing. We're going to put a junior five star on the Vanja. We're GONNA play a freshman five star. Ghetto. So they're bringing in one of their star recruits to play for Trevor Lawrence Against Boston College now I locked in that line at thirty one and a half already against him I was taking the line of thirty one and a half even wet. Lauren's playing now that lines gotta change right it's just gotTa J. It's GonNa go down it's not going to be. Thirty one and a half anymore right now on fan everything is down anything involving Clemson is off the board at Faneuil that includes Saturday game against Boston. College. The trophy bets are down the win the Bet to win the ACC that's down. So they're waiting to see I guess where everything settles before that they would any clemson related bets back up on the board. Too, bad. I already made the Bat I know just saying if you you know for you it's great. I'm saying a lot of people that the game the morning of they ain't GonNa get thirty one and a half anymore. No they aren't. So. How do you think the Kid the five-star? Freshman do. At Chestnut Hill against a decent. Team decent like I took the thirty one and Hook. Even. With him being healthy. So they didn't cover forty six against. It that bad to hit it both ways. And now I think. Clemson wins the game I. Really don't believe I. I got a hard time believing they win by thirty two points with this kid coming in out. I hear he's a stud and he's amazing and he's unbelievable the. Stranger things have happened with God. It's. The greatest recruit ever the greatest player ever. They come in and. When they play their first game like he's been in game for one hundred, two yards. Nineteen passes in his career. So at least he's been in games, but they didn't do anything outrageous when he was in. So now he's GonNa play against BBC. What do you think you'll do? I think you'll win the game I I still believe they'll win. He'll get a chance to really shine and show what he can do and not being a garbage time mop-up situation. But let's remember they're still the number one team in the country. They still have tons of weapons on offense and including Travis at the end. They could just give him the rock all day. They still have a monstrous defense. Clemson will be just fine and Chestnut Hill on. Saturday. Wow. It's crazy. What did you think when you? First heard the news like What was your initial reaction? I'm not surprised that anybody getting covert anymore with the way that it's gone this year anybody who gets nothing nothing surprised. Everyone's GonNa. Get All. A new person to get. It's not like wow you know you got your kind of accustomed to it now unfortunately. CARVER high, and I'll be doing over under totals when each of us will get. Back on the Airlines have just reduced their prices even more broke thirty days in advance and save big want the absolute lowest prices on your airline tickets. Then call cost airline travel hotline right now for prices so low, we can't publish them anywhere the only way to access our low rates and save up to seventy percent is to call save hundreds on your vacation tickets by calling right now, you can fly anywhere in the world and paid discount prices on. 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For Tank Davis Jer Vodka Davis. Against L. Data Multiple Leo Santa Cruz for the world, they're fighting one, hundred, thirty, two ounce steak. You've got wbz, a super featherweight belt and the WB lightweight world title belt all at stake. It's all in winner take all to champs. The vast against the vast doesn't get any better knock out artist Davis against the hand throwing Leo Santa Cruz they love him in Lipstick City and Mexico. Of course Giovanni. Is a mayweather protege Floyd's talk money ticket on the money team and mayweather promotions should be an incredible fight from the Dome in. San. Antonio. Off The river walk at nine eastern on showtime pay per view undercard has a title fight the WB, a super lightweight title Mario Barrio San. Antonio on Cowboy Carl Ryan Carl from Houston plus are all those cruise Magdaleno four fights killer card. It's on showtime pay per view at Nine Eastern Call Your cable operator or satellite provider you got it on all your smart TV's. You can get it showtime dot com the showtime cap. Order, the fight would be silent ticketmaster as tickets. You can see this fight in person at the Alamo there are socially distance blocks of seats available for sure they are letting fans in his first fight with fans that we've seen since covert started for boxing. So a great sign there and it's Saturday night. Davis. Santa. Cruz showtime pay per view order the fight now. And I'll see you Saturday night enjoying that one on pay per view I can't wait all right by the way coming up role Marquez will join us the former boxing. Great. Now a showtime he'll break down the fights for US coming up here in about thirteen minutes or roughly thereafter. So hopefully, that'll all pan out. So right now in the College Football Games, because I've kept my eye on the Georgia southern game, there's about five fifty left in the game and Georgia southern has the ball at their own thirty two they're up a touchdown on South Alabama twenty four. Seventeen I got him laying five and a half so. Still some work to do and Fresno has jumped out carbohydrate not liking that Colorado state down seven nothing at Fresno and. Colorado State Rams have the ball at their own forty right now, and in Pain Day action the Falcons tacked on a field goal to lead nineteen fourteen in Charlotte over the panthers, and now the panthers are putting the ball back to the Falcons again. The fake others let's see what we got here. What are we got hair? Oh, what are we got here? Did he get the first down I? Think he did he gained more than nine. So the panthers will keep the rock. I was just about to say their offense is so stagnant and anemic since the Samuel second touchdown catch in the corner from. Teddy. They haven't done anything they failed miserably they failed on for it down can't get first downs. They look terrible in the second half of particularly now, all of a sudden, they pull off the fake punt. To the up man after the snap they just snapped at the right. The Guy got the ball to off running. Any got the first down after he broke a tackle from hill, and now they're at the forty of the Falcons. And there's five minutes left in the third and they just keep panting off to Davis who never gains a yard i. mean honestly like their offense so boring and. And so awful I don't even understand. How is it that they jeremy was the guy ran a fake punt. Out of southern Illinois I don't understand how they just keep handing off to Davison just they have no creativity whatsoever. There's no. I mean like no passing game teddybears you remember when they got him, he's he's our quarterback and I mean I just think he looks terrible. Honestly like I don't know what he's doing out there. Do you. Would you even disagree with that? I, like he looks lame. No He's he doesn't look great tonight. The throat Samuel on on the one touchdown was pretty nice. I I just don't think this is like the Falcons tonight I just didn't I know they lose every week. I don't think this team's I could either that they're playing and you're seeing tonight I mean they're not they're not a great team either both these teams stink. So anything can happen but teddy hasn't been awful this year tonight he's been gone hasn't been great but this season he's been pretty decent for them. Let's the Super Bowl of sucky teams are not good. Not good team I mean yeah. They start out. They've got three wins I bet you don't win more than six games fight we gotTA fight breaking out. We gotTA fight breaking out. We got bodies being thrown the bodies at the let the bodies at the full that the bodies at the. Dan. Dan. Dan. ooh, sorry about that. Car Ride sometimes, I. I lose myself. That's a that's a great tune. So that's okay. Little drowning pool. Yeah I gave it a little strong ever. So, this morning I went to the. I went to the gym to. Train with my boy Robbie Clutch. and. So. What happens is is that Bridgewater Dan Oh God he's her God. Oh, you got a shot that had concussion. He got nailed in the head with a forearm elbow. Let's just eject ninety two now while you're ahead of thanks so. I went to the gym this morning and. I got up at like six in the morning to go train. Right So I've told you before about the Ladies Tea Party and Bridge Club that I was playing with in this Jim. Where they You're not allowed to foul me. You're not allowed to touch me. Oh, you're not allowed to me. Oh Oh you're not allowed to argue with me when I make bad calls Oh. Oh, you're not allowed to shoot threes and train from everywhere score on us for Al Your two good of a score. You're not allowed to play and score and win. We only win and because we're all a bunch of them's. Oh. Let's the Ladies Tea Party, and Bridge Club, that I was playing with for five months that I no longer play with because I. was infected from playing with Gary men. Netted. Loud Irk me. You're not allowed to foul me. You're not allowed to drop thirty on me. You're not allowed to step back dagger me. And then so Just for good measure the guy that got me into the Ladies Tea Party Bridge Club He. He still wants to you know train with me. 'cause they. I guess he got the Harta like three of them got the Honda they all went out drinking one of their birthdays and they all got the Honda and then I so I didn't go near the guy for a month. And then I didn't play. Once when I was playing like five in the morning. Everybody knows I was playing like five in the morning. People don't like my basketball story. This'll be a good time to go stab yourself in the face. So anyway. I went today to meet and I've done this Tuesday I went and we trained and we shot like three hundred jumpers. We had the shot machine out the three point shot machine it just spits ball's T. it's great and we were running lines we did it all I played one on one we shot literally three hundred Jumpers Apiece Right So everything's Fine Blah Blah, and then I'm like this is great. When we're done we lifted everything was Gandhi. So he says to me on Thursday today said, let's do it again. Let's let's go run again. I'm like all right I'll meet you there. So I dried like twenty minutes whatever no big deal twenty minutes I drive I get there. And when I get there, he's not there yet. So I'm sitting in the parking lot one thing another harry cons he pulls in goes in opens the door lets me and I go in and they changed the locks. On the basketball gym, they changed the locks on on the basketball. Couldn't we couldn't get on the court we couldn't get in. and. Then the check run in the place of that our she's like I have no idea where the keys are. We looked everywhere looked everywhere for the case we never got in, we never played. So he never date switch the locks changed the keys, the whole deal, and now you can't get in. So I go there and that's why basically drove forty minutes to do nothing I never shot I never played I never. I never lifted I never shot one ball so that upset me now the same guy is calling me up and I'm meeting him again there tomorrow morning he claims that he has the keys and that he's Good to go, and we're GONNA get in and we're going to be able to train. Now. Do you believe him or not carbohydrate? He'll have the keys tomorrow when I go to get into the gym that I couldn't get into today. I don't believe it. I. Don't think. He won't happen. So it's another. It'll be another swing in a mess now just so you know like when I play now. because. There's so much. You know covert and Hanta going around that they literally now. You can't play anywhere like you cannot play basketball like indoors. So. I mean there's just no like open gyms you can go play in trust me but now what they're doing is They're like, L-, renting it to people renting courts to people. So I'm playing. Saturday. At this place that my kids have played before is basketball court where my kids play AU ball. I'm playing in this gym and I'm paying twenty bucks, right so everyone in the group is paying twenty bucks two hundred and fifty bucks for two hours. Playing. You know. Hey to play now I, pay to play basketball. Not a drag. Just be allowed to go play ball and get in a fight and. Score fifty points. And Enemies not have to pay. Boxing fans, MMA vans checkout ring toss live worldwide thirty, five years radio presence find out why every Saturday at eleven am. Pacific time when Pedro finished takes over the. Airwaves with ring talk live worldwide you're inside look into the world of boxing and mixed martial arts you're listening to Ferrall on the bench here on sports overnight America. 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Today, we were doing our. Know, whether reports carbohydrate in his spare time is our weather man on the show we always check the weather map and the radar to Doppler radar before games. So as Tanaka jeopardize our bets and carver high told me that there was potential for high winds and rain tonight, and then later in the broadcast, we did a second weather update and he said that there is potential for some level of clearing I just wanted to remind everyone that now I'm watching the game and it is pouring, ass. Right outside it was clear. It was it was clear for a little while then it will now it's pouring. So we were right on both ends. Perfect. You're like Sam champion doling out the weather nice performance by Ucar Raul. Marquez. Legendary fighter and. Broadcaster on Showtime Boxing. Of course, we're getting ready for the big fight tank, Davis and L. Teramoto. My Buddy Leo Santa Cruz has been on the show about twenty times over the years I'm good friends with him. He's a great kid I love him but I wanNA talk to roll now about the fight in the car, but I really wanted to him at the very least about his brilliant career royal my man how you doing brother it's good to have you on the bench. Doing great man. Thanks for having me on and You know just a waiting game here in San. Antonio. The Big Day you got two more days in. Quarantine beating now room locked up you know but it's part of the game. So it's Like I'm fighting all over again because undoing the broadcast. So I remember two things. One I think that you started your career your first fight ever was in San Antonio is that about right? Yeah that that is right. That is correct I was in October of Nineteen ninety-two. I you know I competed in the Olympics of the United. States represent the United States in the Olympics and I'll turn pro under the main event Lou Duva back. Then you know they had all the Eighty four Olympia and you know whitaker and number Taylor. Event or holy fill and all them guys. So yeah, I turned pro here in San Antonio As Better Jesse James How was the May? was already becoming and coming prospect and Just a lot of memories have your in. San Antonio not only my party view but we had a lot of training camps here and San Fernando Jim you know the lay Joe Susa remember the cut man does who's Married Craner George Benton Ronnie, Ronnie Shield delayed Lou Duva and just a bunch of fighters. Laid Tour Gatty and David who Andrew, Golota Pinot Whitaker, all them guys better hold it for we. All you know had a training camp here. We had a blast. So you know I got got good memories. You know a lot of fanciers tonio Also just you know not the from home town Houston is just down the road. So I spent a lot of good good times here and it was it was great to be here. Back over. Here. A Lotta great fights in San Antonio. The last few years CANOVA's fought air at the. Dome. It's been. It's a good spot for boxing I think. Well yeah absolutely I. Mean You know you know. Mattie Paco covered what a pack. Pack. You'll be Barrera here. That's what I, I got the no many patio back when I was doing stuff for aids not know but yes kinda. Always been a big fight town I mean. We're back to the Tony Gala Days Remember Twenty Y'all and Y'all. Brothers and all that and I got a senior and of course you know, let's not forget when the great would've Cesar Chavez. Fought here in the alamodome against Porno Whitaker. So yeah, it's It's always been A. A town that You know the the fans captivate captivates they love the oxygen game and not only that would you have a hometown guy like I remember Jesse James how far here he was from San Antonio to really follow their champion know. So exciting it's exciting to be here. With his fight Saturday night album you know I was in a couple of your big fights and they didn't go well, I was there. They were huge fights for you. I remember seeing you fight your boy competent Atlantic City in ninety seven I was there for that. I was there for that fight and then I was also at the. Fernando Vargas fight at. Tahoe names its Caesar's in Thailand and ninety. Nine I wanted to that fight is well, what do you remember most about you started fighting really big names right around that window in your career in like ninety seven through. you know two thousand kind of unless I'm crazy and into the you know well into two thousand like but some of the biggest fights were it all started with that I thought would compass and Vargas and then I think you fought. Later you know sugar, Shane, and then I think. So, what do you remember about those fights at the beginning that I mentioned? Well what I remember from you know Yearbook Campesino first of all when I was a fighter, you know I. You know now a lot of fighters now it's it's it's obviously treated more like a business and back then I didn't I didn't treat it like a business you. COULDA I could've went back and built that title and fought. You know guys like you know what Fiber Melissa LS he was. A smaller guy but you know he was still unknown guy. He won a bronze medal in the Olympics for nineteen eighty eight unlocked about in four rounds. I believe that was my first title defense but you know I wanted to fight the best to get to the best fights I wanted to be you know fight the big names you know, and maybe get to an Oscar de la Hoya fight or Fernando Vargas they mostly. So when I find your boy campus That fight. I find in September and everybody knows this story. Timber Nineteen ninety-seven on the undercard of Coleman event when Oscar de la Hoya fought Hector Macho Camacho, and I've fought Keith mullins on that card. That was a brutal. Yeah. That was a brutal fight I got fed up really bad and and I wanted to find out that will pull it out. I was a champion enough. I gotTA split decision but I was banged up pretty bad. I got like seventy substitute inside Al.. And I came back too soon you know in September of ninety seven. And then back in December I was in there with. You know at that point yearbook campus was a knockout artist. You know had like seventy seven wins fifty something knockout something like that. So. You know my face was not you know this is after the fact, the doctor you know my face. WAS, not. Completely healed. You know it was. It was still traumatized from the it looked fine for the outside but from the inside, it was still traumatized. At that point where they stopped the fight in the eighth round often see no more I need on my face really closed up. And you know at that point the fight was even one just had it for me when just had it through your boy and we just had it even. So anyways, I couldn't continue because I was blinded. You know I mean yeah he dave being all that but I was at but it's a fight that I took too. Soon you know I should have waited on you know me and my father were inexperienced new the pro pro game and all that and you know we made some you know live learn. I should have waited six seven months but you know I had a lot of pressure from the promoter of that point take this fight you win this five maybe you get to fight Oscar the you my little bit roommate teammate and That's the we don't want to fight you know and I felt like if I wouldn't have been banged up for the mud side, I would have beat you boy and you know knows what will happen the next year but. and that night you know keep violins on that same card when I lost the title of the campus, he gets up terrible Terry. At that point, he was the guy before he was pound for pound one of the fighters in the world and keep the guy that I'd be in September on the graphics card goes and knocks terrible Terry Norris. So you know that tells you stood on that that fight but And then you know what? About Self I lost the. I believe I've I've thought about the floor I took off like nine months and that's bucket four is on on ESPN that was a good fight for me and I one and then after that I I I I think Fatah Fernando Vargas and. There no excuses there. I. Mean I thought I thought Fernando at his best you know He was He was a sharp guy sharp sharpshooter. He was very lake and you know angles in I mean he was he was on for that site he really was on and And I lost a him about but he's taught me eleven rounds and. That was in Tahoe and Reno I believe that was a nineteen ninety nine on HBO after Dr. Yeah I, think I was at the mullins fight to it was at. And that. That car was in Vegas. I think it was at the Thomas and mack where that you beat warns for the Title I said that too I saw you win the bout and then I saw you lose your next fight as well. tummy respect Legat. Barbie minutes role what do think of a tank and Leo on a Saturday I love Leo he draws more hands than anybody I've ever seen. But he's got a monster on his hands in tank. Yeah it's GonNa be tough five tank Davis he's He's up and coming star you know. Of course you don't may whether it's backing them up and He's a three time world champion he he's a young lion. You know he's strong. He's he's fast explosives got the power and You know it's an important time for legal. You know but there's one. Of works happened, he's trying to be one of the few basic insiders that wins five titles in different weight classes but it's GonNa be tough man because he you know he's he does have experience. You know he's got a wins over admiral is and always. Wonder, one against call Frampton, you know he's been there before and he's been at big events like this and you know I think his his Plots volume. You know you see things in there I mean they got the thousand. And one five you know that could make the fight interesting at times. But I just think that you know tank Thorough later will take over in the second half of the fight because You know he's he's going to be great to you know with mayweather and and cap directness kept think he's GonNa make way tomorrow and and I think he's GonNa be he's GonNa be great say by who who, who would be in great shape with mayweather in camp with you and and you know running it's some time running you cabin and giving you advice and stuff like that I'm sure he's you know he's in Tiktok shape and he's going to be ready because this is this is the moment that he's been waiting for but. Same thing for Neil you know he wants that side. He wants it bad I know he's got a big car You know both fighters have really great stories. You know over his father you know. You know almost you know I. Guess He died they brought. Ask you know when he had. I? It's IT'S A. It's one of the story that that you know you wanna hear anything with tank, Davis? You know being an orphan and you know where he was raised he came up the hard way and liquid that now so it's it's it's it's it's a story where you want you want both fighters win and you know and The. Press conference today they both respect each other they're they're they're being gentlemen and I think that's great. Man I. Mean it makes us look great. It makes it look good. You know there's no badmouthing nobody's talking Madison. There's WANNA put up a great fight and I think it's going to be a great a really good fight but I think tank. Tag will probably You know I see him way by late round stoppage made. That's what I predict. I don't know I think that seven to one. Favored heavily is is crazy against a guy as good as Leo Santa Cruz I. Don't tonight Jovana should be favored but I don't think it should be as heavy as it is and I'm throwing some bones on Leo to see what happens I. also had TV Mo a Lopez plus three thirty in that fight against Lomas I can't wait for the fight Saturday night. Nine eastern on showtime pay per view role. You do a great job with showtime I'm friends with everybody because does Stephen Espinoza all the guys Albert. Einstein. Everybody. You do a fantastic job. I always loved watching you fight I was at a lot of your fights. Thanks for coming on the bench. Tonight. Enjoyed to fight on Saturday night brother, love? You appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me on him by the fight on. Showtime. I got you bro My man Raul Marquez Legend on the bench. Tonight getting ready for tank and L.. Doll Saturday night, and mode dome on showtime pay per view. 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When I saw that guy get hit he got not only did he get his head taking off but his entire helmet shifted off of his head and like completely is in dire. He was just completely discombobulated. He got lit up and he got his back towards his head snapback is helmet was jarred office skull. They put him in the tent right? They put him in the blue ten for ten minutes. He comes out they start like playing around with his. Shoulder pads or something on advantage they put this guy in Walker for a few plays and then they actually put teddy back up on the field. So they brought him back out on the field for the. I guess the. Second Down third-down play and they couldn't achieve anything I mean with they're just anemic play calling I, mean Oh. My God. I don't understand what? Moron is running the offense. I if it's rulers some OC that decides you know it's third and five let's throw it. Why don't we throw it behind the line of scrimmage. And See, if the guy can get six yards. This is the NFL. 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Part 2: News with Kyle Dunnigan, plus Good Sports with Dave Dameshek (ACS Mar 9)

"Thanks for listening to the Adam. Corolla show on podcast. One Kyle. Dunnigan is I haven't laughed hard enough hanging in with the news. And now we're going to the next level and then check comes by. We're doing some good sports as well. I or ring this. This is amazing. Piece of technology after ten years doing love line from ten midnight. Go to bed at two. Am every night for decade. I switched to mornings like two weeks later and then I had to go to bed at eight every night or try and then get up at four thirty in the morning. I got so screwed up the key. People is Ram sleep when your mind and body truly recovered. They're looking so much into Hygiene sleep hygiene or a ring. It's changing the sleep tracking game. It's compact easy to use. It measures your heart rate directly from your finger just a little black ring you put on not your wrist and it'll give you personalized daily sleeping body insights as well wake up every morning. You can check your sleep study right on the APP. 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He was taking a bellevue. He'll stay in rikers until his march eleventh sentencing. He faces up to twenty nine years in prison. And let's not forget he gets to kind of do this over again in California. I was thinking about his facial hair and I thought what which is it. Is it a beard or Shaven? And how does it perpetually stay at that like six and a half days and then why does he think that's a good luck? It's neither fish fowl for most guys. Most guys clean-shaven can be a good look in a nice groomed. Beard can be a good look the inbetween couple of Don Johnson in his prime. But then I pour me but thing I can't even take care of myself always been that Don Johnson stubble whereas Harvey's like whiskers right right wildly unattractive. It looks like it's Itchy. Yeah as far as creepy the ladies go wouldn't WanNa kiss that Mug and now we're all women now but I it's it's he he must have to shit groom it like you can't perpetually stay in a week's grow grow a beard though and they maybe just can't grow it. I guess I don't I don't know but it's it's it's looks itchy uncomfortable. And it's a way to make a horribly unattractive guy even more unattractive but he might have bad skin that to dozen knows what that's like. No I don't check my skin. Looks good you with all the things they do to make him look sympathetic. That had to be a decision right. If you add that he's always had that same scrub the Walker is a decision. I talked to a doctor. Said he's using it wrong. You don't put it in front of you when you need. It puts it in front of like right right. Yeah it's it's it's harder to use the Walker win. It's that far out. Indicates you control of your muscles and limbs if you're going away on front door showing how it's hard for us a walker for many months that very beard you're talking? I never thought about that. He's always had that. What if Stallone's character was called the Walker instead of the hunger throw out three? Nicholson the courtroom post stacked tennis ball. Just she says Moore Avenue Maria menounos voter. She'd be the judge right up. They should have got a ruling. Yeah could we could do a little send up on Walker Texas Ranger but he could be on a walker. We had some cocky pig of a tennis ball. You Walk in you walk away then you go to the doctor. The other Italian missed one. Fifty two middle's good slack. So I see you as a big producer. Who's fallen from grace you know? And now you're using the Walker pick up. Pick up the Nichols with the tennis ball in front of the Walker. Well I thought it was tennis. Boss God ten is remember when he did the movie driven. Yeah with the delorean on the post-election Deloitte and the girl right okay okay. This is like that. Remember your tires. Were picking up the quarter. Now this is the tennis balls picking up than no wait a minute I was. I wanted them. Walk is right now. I can't sly around. I WANNA book dead his on news. Go get them Douay. I spoke to Rennie Harlan. He's expressed interest in directing. Do it does matter. Could BE NICHOLS accordions. Dennis bozos ticket. Pick you know. I got it Dr Renae. We'll see. I think he worked with him. On cliffhanger terrific. I love that movie. You know we were really up on a cliff. I wasn't hey dangling. Thousands of feet looks like like. Yeah well that's good directions. Originally in the script quarters but that was a different move new woman to repeat. Gotcha all right. Sorry Tina Code. Staffers at Judah took me to meet. It's an honor staffers. At Ronan. Farrow's publisher staged a walkout Thursday to protest their parent companies. Plan to publish Woody Allen's new memoir page six so earlier this week Pharaoh blasted the Hatchet Group Book Group for picking up his estranged father's memoir called Apropos of nothing hatchet also published Farrow's book about the metoo movement called catch and kill so on Thursday according to page six employees at Little Brown and company. That's a division of. Yeah no Michael Coach. Okay headed the company's Human Resources Office to complain. The CEO attempted to hold the town hall but that was rejected by the workers. I do love our new society. Look Hey the pussies of come home to roost. Everybody all your fucking pussy kids. You've been raising over the last thirty five years. Well they're all adults and they're in a workplace now fucking deal with all the pussies it's awesome. Thanks Parents Nice. Job We need new batch of pussies Lacey's fucking hapless pussies because they're going eventually fake injuries and sue people and have to leave the workplace. So they're gonNA have their you know they're going to have their the allergies. You know what I mean. Whatever they're indoor allergies you know. They're not going to be able to work. Because the carpets made of synthetic material that's from China and so they're gonNa have to stay home and work from home and then they don't have their blue blockers and the too much screen time it's GonNa screw up remm slaves so keep working plus these new batch of Bush's to come replace these fucking coming. It's awesome I just tell my son I'm like I don't give a shit whether you do homework or schoolwork or anything just know how to work a little bit. Actually you'll be man. How's that going else awesome Isn't it Kinda weird that the same publishing company that did catch and kill is doing i? You're publishing company. Just do whatever you want but looks nobody. I up deserves am went a memoir more than Woody Allen. I mean whose body of work. Who's older and WHO's done more? Who's had a longer career now? I don't know what's in the memoir. It may virtues of marrying your daughter. Well you can talk about you know you can do write a book on Charles Manson or Hitler or anybody. That bad as woody but anybody one and then you can mention chapters. Pardon the pun like in their life where they were. Alcoholics are divorced or married their stepsister. Whatever whatever it does make it in but doesn't mean I don't know what's in it man. You know what I mean like you kind of go. What's what's in it Kensey Mackenzie Phillips were. Because he was having sex with my dad when I was nineteen. So how do we know that? It's GonNa be a a love letter to what he isn't it by Woody Allen more. Yeah so it's probably him ruminating on you know funny anecdotes. Thank you Ryan. I know he may talk about all these chapters. We may talk about how difficult it was during the suny part of his life. Or whatever Dylan Farrow accusing him of molestation. I know. I don't know what he's what he's GonNa how honest. I don't see anything wrong with Marion. Unity you didn't kill the balloted make the cut on the last album right. No that's where Max where you've got to find where he says the chairs and easy one. Yeah it's an for go ahead. Well we're we're there all protesting they're all L. Walked out I you you work in a business. People write books and they sell the book some of the stuff. He agree with some. You don't agree with that but that's a long over the business you're in okay. Everybody's worried except for some people in this room the the krona virus could come and get them but experts have a little piece of advice. Stop Panic. Buying people are hoarding things. Like San hand. Sanitizer toilet paper badly-needed surgical masks for hospitals and the nobody knows exactly what could happen. The supply chain experts all insists that as long as you have enough to get through fourteen days. You're fine stores. That's good enough time. Stores aren't many out of the bill. Of course I I saw you. I saw cars parked out front. It's filled with plywood. Shanna raiders. I would guess three pump shotguns cans of picking up butter peanut butter. Yeah Jiffy smooth on there and then I noticed Reams of toilet paper. I don't like to say rain paper at the same time for the running back right a lot of that. A lot of pure al and get a fifty five gallon drum pure l. up there you can make my own bureau. Oh you do. Yeah I do. Oh it's rubbing alcohol and Aloe Vera. Joe Oh okay so you make your own. I love how we care for. You are about this. We're all going to die. We'RE GONNA die for us with your kids. How can Gina might make it? Yeah we'll be okay dark okay go ahead. What else I sent Kaelin and Chris a picture earlier We just happen to be running out of toilet paper yesterday and I said if you have time to go to the grocery store you know grab a couple of packs. This is what he grabbed because that was all that was left in the grocery store through. Weiner's pack of the worst cheapest bathroom tissue one four pack. That was all that was left at the store. We're not panic. Buying we were just out of toilet. Paper is the time to stock up your windows closed. Over something Saturn this picture. Genus FORMICA. Counter data FORMICA. Laminates laid up. Oh you're going to try to pass off. Its Wilson are no I know Formica when I make this much worse than much sadder. I don't have FORMICA. Countertops our landlord. Oh Oh come on. Step up to Cesar Stone would you please Sharon travertine granite? Would you have on who bill of your your palatial who state you must have Carreira Marlboro carrier remarkable? Yeah that's good luck and no children to mess it up. That's good luck. Yes she. She's got cheap laminate made scrubbing all day. All right sorry go ahead you know. Let me yeah all right. Obviously the toilet papers. Four but the countertops and the Santa Barbara. That's pretty bad very all right. Let's talk about betterment here way to handle your finances all right so we're always talking about the show like no one really has any meaningful advice on how to manage your finances. Even fewer have the means to get professional guidance betterment platform to do something radical about that. Give you accessible financial advice. That puts you first. We talk about it all the time. If you're like most Americans your money just sitting in a savings account. Earning you next to nothing or you have an investment account. You're not sure what to do with betterment can help make sense of your money and let's get a little literate here financially. People Veterans Technology puts your money to work choosing stocks and strategies. That are right for you. Betterment Veterans Platform. Can they even provide guidance? On what financial goals make sense for you. So let's get going with Betterman Dawson give your money a new home with betterment peace of mind included. Download the APP today. That's B. E. R. M. E. N. T. For the betterment of you have Michael Jackson thing the chairs not a Son. Shit Chat is not much fun. Shit he does. Chit and then it goes the chain. Yeah so but you're Michael Chang. That's what I do remember. Why can't you say kid? I did say Ki Ki. Wait a minute again Dawson. Yeah they'll be overlaid those forces so many times. He probably snuck a chair in there once out of boredom you know what I mean. And it's true that the chair isn't your son. I mean that isn't accurate statement. Neither is the end Table Bay or the up right. Yeah Pick Ping random things and then go ahead impediment. I'll put different things. Probably more for that. One has to take children now. Gender goes my son right terrible right. It's Children Joe. Yeah none of it. I guess he's right right technically. I I never really thought about it though. I was Kinda criticizing you stupid. Well I was being silly and I'm sorry I'm being mean Dude. It too old to a d Still One more all right. Here's a good one for you. People for Because I'd love to get a specially. Brian's take on a new beer tap system developed by a company called alcohol by choice allows customer to customize just how much alcohol to put in the beer. They're drinking. It's created by Brew Vo by Sustainable Beverage Technologies. This system starts with a non alcoholic beer and then mixes in flavourless alcohol. So the result is a beer at whatever level of you handle it kind of goes against the spirit of brewing brew. The beard to be a certain you know spirit. What what does it go up to because tops out at six and a half out jack it up to fourteen? We might be able to talk. Google it because I've only found two articles and they're two very short paragraphs and almost seem a little more promotional so very hard to find details on how they're going to make this work. But why would you mix beer with like ever clear the fucking is I in College? I I don't. I don't think this is good. I feel the same way like it's about Jerky it's like. You wouldn't just get Cowan then. Spread whatever flavor you want on it you WANNA baked in multiplication clean Carbon Mall Safai. I mean stallone. Run my car over Turkey. Pick them up on the way. You were Maria Menounos. Would you ever falsify the carpet? Oh Yeah we're not was over Menendez nutrients out most of Old would oppose the file. Marthe of MNUCHIN another word. I'd like from racing scrutineering. Were they actually inspect the cars news near a good? Yeah they would most via carpet and you would scrutineer the CONS OF BUDDIES SCOOT NOON. A minimum new news also they. They had the word. That's another good racing word. I like homologation. You know you had to make a certain dish the end to make a certain amount of a car could be it could race in the GT. Cla- say that Hamas don't make the whole car you know you make a certain units certain units. No one you know you had to make like a hundred units and now would be a GT car. Couldn't make the most of the case that's Mal homologation? Mulling Daesh right. Yeah like if you if you're doing a Ferrari fifty you'd have to homologated that car for you. Know that Dr Will. She's got no loved honey. Mom Yeah you'd have to homologated for LAMU GOTTA GO HOME. Mullarkey for the month not most vacation for the carpet homologation and let me get within. Hold on I'll get bigger the pen. Yeah this model most noodles. I got it and then you gotta do just checking all right sorrow remember. Scrutineering forgot. That won't let me give them up. Scrape now with a t scrutiny. Is there a shirt here? T H U scrutiny. Enough scrutineering scrutineer and then homologation got McKay. Kinch that's Y- think we got the phones for our next moving always all here. You know we've got the inciting incident with Manasseh Vacations. Akwa prop point MNUCHIN. News House was the last act that it's Mut Bruton New Scrutiny. The pirates of boot new at the end you know people like pirates. That's they'll bring people look fill. Pirate only parents all right. Let's see a bunch of tomatoes. Not Need to do no good. Yeah that's a lot of hope. I will basket a basket. She'll have tomatoes. Who's that movie all? Right Hey Max bat give put on the screen all the names girl scout cookies. I'd be curious. Stallone thought about all that. Yeah that tax reform oil you know immediately live is on its promise. Yeah because it's thin as he. Yeah just both. Yeah that'll give the SHUCK and jive that the Samoa get say you don't know what does that. I don't know what that means. I Know Cook you tell me what it is. I think Bloomberg. That's his favorite cookie chip. Okay I know him getting it. Yeah P. Con Sandy Man. I don't know what the sad part is. But this got concentrated on game. All right let me hit and We'll figure out all the name. Let me hit one appeal sweat. These nips simply safe to is and they're protect your home do it today. Get free shipping at SIMPLISAFE DOT COM SLASH ADAM SLIDE. You see some of the offerings. They're a good Small lemonades that does lemonade to me. But okay what are you gonNA dosage? Oh where's the dose? He does that make no sense. That's a that's those pseudo right. Yeah hold a cookie the Foxtrot. That's Tansu that stupid. Yeah they got the toffee tastic. I think that makes sense. You know if this toffee in it right day. So that doesn't make any sense Savannah smiles what the Hell's deck house. That a cook that you know I mean you know talking to you. You Talk to me then you put. These things up here was SOM SOM savanna smiles. I don't even know assistant that marshmallow. What I opposite. Go take cookies site. I don't WanNa Heggie. I didn't it was too late for that. Cookie makes no sense to bring a pitcher for the trestle foil does what would they put in the oven? You Bake so money to foils. Yeah now that's tin foil to that makes no sense. I know you don't know what flavor I'm ready to punch my this right now. We Punch your opens Duke. One Hand you make a fist you punch palm there? I always I always connect. I'll put your fist hand. Here Open. Glove handles them control fighting the fight. So he's moving around. You know fits. I can put it right here and this comes up you know well. Let's see genetics. Every talk you never miss. It missed once when I was talking to Menino success. These cookies with making me upset. Let's bring that down. Let's wrap it up. Jesus loans upset. I know I'm sorry. I'm Gina Grad and. That's the news. That was the news with gene. I'm going to beat the Peterson Museum. We're doing a live car. Cast Their March twenty first. Were showing shelby American there. And we're doing a bring your car out. We'll be doing some judging or possibly some scrutineering. Yeah good am dot com for all the live shows Kyle Dunnigan. You should go to his website. Kyle dunnigan COMEDY DOT COM and this man boy. I haven't laughed that hard at a long time. Thank you thank you for me. Laugh OUR ASSES OFF. You can check out up any and all are racing. Docks at the chassis Y DOT COM and check out the new Podcast I survived on podcast. One and until Knicks. Ma'am Corolla for Kyle. Dunnigan Kina grand ball bride. Say Mahala. What the fuck is talking about. Today's episode of goods for today damaged. Echinoderms corollas coming right. Doc Gates the fruit recapping. Shit GAS WARNS SPORTS NETWORK PRISONS. Good Sports. Sports fans welcomed a brand new episode filled with some hot sportstalk era. Good Sports Dave damage. Here Adam Karol over there as you're back from your travels through the Midwest. Welcome back let's keep. It's about Sports Sally Aright. Oh by the way while you were in the Mid West. You paid a visit to to Indianapolis Indiana could make an argument the least creative name for a city in all these United States. Yeah I agree. I had something just pop into my head was lamenting the loss of barrel man from Denver Sports Lore now and then I told Brad Williams that he be barrel boy which is now what a course party ball around him in the stands the stadium but a mile high but I was also watching some news. And we're looking at a picture. I didn't know there was a guy I think at Wyoming probably Wyoming Football. There is a there is a Wyoming Texas Pete or something essentially has a barrel around him as well. I don't know if it's Wyoming. I don't know what it is. It's like he's not barrel man but he he has ripped off barrel man. He's he's wearing the barrel he's got this spenders. He has a cowboy hat in no shirt on. And he's I don't know about intellectual property rights but the survivors of Barrel. Man should be doing this guy from Wyoming Salute. Yeah where's the Dignity Fred you come up with your own hook. It's not I'm rainbow head to know you're not this guy's wearing a barrel from Wyoming no shirt. It's got a cowboy hat. He's probably wearing cowboy boots. He's directly ripped off barrel man. This is calls himself cowboy ten. I'm sorry you're literally and by the way with the wrong ladders. Mind you not going to work on this podcast there. That's ridiculous. Thank you for bringing that to my shame. This guy properly But Yeah I heard in. India met up with a couple of POWs from from the Indiana University. As Andy. Long and Craig Sander. I don't mind telling you they were very pleased to meet you and the glad hand with you and most importantly by the the live show. They loved it. Oh good we had all the shows in India were good. The crowds were good. And I remember meeting your buddies after the show and I know they went to. Saint elmo's famous placed at the hot shrimp through it on but good according to that how it was good. We couldn't get to say almost because we're doing two shows Friday to show Saturday early. Show late show. There was no. The kitchen was closed by the time. We're there but what they don't tell you. People that are thinking ahead into Indianapolis Nate Myles Kadian salaries or whatever. The state join is next to say no most. Yeah I've been there. I is owned by the same whatever and has the same shrimp cocktail that they have kidding which softens the blow. Because you go you you go to say almost to get the shrimp cocktail when he can't get in. You know shrimp cocktail for us. But the place right next to it. It's the same. Shrimp cocktail wait. So are we advocating for this place? We disgracing it. The same as we are cowboy. Dan Cowboys I can or whatever it is and no. It's good you go there. Get a steak wait. A second we either condemn this the same way we just did. Barrowman are two. Wow Yeah okay. This is interesting because it seems like I'm flying in the face. My Own Art Wyoming is right next to Colorado for all. I know I need to know what year cowboy can in Baron America. It's a good question because someone may be ran. Whoever the grandfather I'll side with and I Apologize. The cowboy can if he came I I doubt it. It is a lot like the MOCHA. Joe Versus. Latino Larry That's right there's a place in Pittsburgh to on Murray Avenue. They have in my book the best pizza in Pittsburgh as many hours. But there's I L O's and people stand up for that. I love the idea of opening a business next to somebody when you go first off. This is easy and Schnitt. Z's is owned by the same place. That was dizzy inch newsy different. The birds living. Somebody's vaginas different thing. This is there. Oh by the same plight that same owner. Oh Spread. Pactel sauce wherever wherever they please. And the worst is if you go to Detroit Coney Island dog and then coney island dog right next to each other. That's somebody just got into an argument and open a coney island dog next. I like that. I like when bands split often become to bands with the same name in the lead singer. Got Man they just went and started their own thing that we talked about by the way my favorite one of these is kind of things. Is that in sports in sports terms. Is that there was a pro football team named the browns after its coach. Paul Brown and art modell buys the Cleveland Browns and then he fires Paul Brown and Paul Brown says yeah the teams named after me man. You can't get rid of me. He's like well. That's what's happening. And they move Paul Brown off the Browns so Paul Brown moves to Cincinnati in the same state and starts the bengals and then promptly designs the uniforms to look close to the browns as he possibly can get. That's the best. Both storied franchise the same success. Super Bowl Ring. I can't even count combined now. You need more. And more than two hands broncos seventy seven barrel man as when he began ninety five Cowboy Ken Wyoming come on cowboy can. That's almost two decades after barrel. Disgrace the trail disgraceful. Really do what you want you know. Put the fire chiefs had on the jets guy. Whatever you're being charged with copycatting. Yeah you just tweet that a little bit. But you just did a straight up rip errol suspenders and a cowboy hat. I mean come on Buddy. Yeah not good not good at all also while you were there in. Indianapolis you book that thing at. I don't know the best time or the worst time. Did you see any pro football stars out there because the combined was going on while you were there we won out for steak and had a group of large men of color like sitting at the table in front of us and yeah there there was tons of guy's roaming around you never you never know. Who's what you don't know? If the guy's a bouncer lineman or linebacker or an account I don't know but I've assuming they're seeing a lot of guys. I wasn't recognizing a lot of faces although when we flew home in First Class. God what's his name. Mcginty McGinnis Willie mcginest McGinnis on my show last week given all the latest on. Where Tom Brady's GONNA wind up? I tell everybody fly with Willie McGuinness because when you get a first class seat which we did but it's a small airplane and you're the very front row and you don't realize not being able to slide your feet under the seat in front of you. That's devastating you. Don't realize how much mileage you get a good like thirteen inches of slide under the seat. You can't do it it's a bulkhead and you start feeling bad about yourself. Because you're like them six two and this is a first class ticket and I feel like I'm all balled up and then I looked at my right. There's Willie I think all of us right because there's somebody on. This plane is more uncomfortable than I. Is there a greater specimen that you've come across in pro football or any sport really? That's I mean shack is kind of. He's the weird guy because he's not like Rick Smits. The Dutch treat who seemed like he was stretched out a glandular cases woody allen my call them but check just looks like he got into a larger. Just he's exactly proportional he just two seven one version of a normal person Cam Newton's like that Willie mcginest is just a giant of a man. Yeah that's what you want. You want that action figure Tony Gonzalez. Yeah that's right. Yeah that's big but you don't get stretched out in weird most stuff. It's the same as Zucchini if anyone's grown Zucchini Zucchini has a sweet spot. You know it's about six and a half to eight inches long and it's a into around Zucchini anyone who grow Zucchini let it go? It just keeps going and going and going and at some point you get this huge Zucchini. And it's mealy and it's more it looks weird. There's a sweet spot for humans. There's a sweet spot for Zucchinis and that's all I got. It is funny yes. They've made a lot of money but I mean six willies. Like six five six. But he's just wrapped in intimidating. The look at it is weird when you see those it is such a curse unless you get to the NBA to be seven to when you see them going through like what a what a awful Jack. Well except if you're worth forty million dollars because of all the money putting up giants all right. Well that's that we've gotten off to a fine start with a week filled with hot sports. Talk here we'll be back tomorrow with more of it. For until then four Adam Corolla Dave amateur good sports out fall. The Adam Corolla show on twitter at Adam Cole. Show follow on twitter Adam. Corolla Levers voicemail. Eighty six three four one seven four four and get tickets for everything. You needed Adam. Corolla DOT COM.

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OBI Listener Questions: Watching the game pass by

Cincy Jungle

13:03 min | 2 years ago

OBI Listener Questions: Watching the game pass by

"This is the orange black insider bagels podcast. I mean, because he's John Sharon, you can get this show on I tunes on Stitcher on Google play on our nineteen and YouTube and sits juggled dot com. We're gonna get to a segment just a second. But we've got a call on the line is the orange bike insider who's this? That'd be good, sir. Good to hear from you, sir. I'm sure you knowing knowing you as long as I have John from Kentucky. I I would assume you have to be absolutely ecstatic with Marvin Lewis news. That morning. The Marvin Lewis. Mark Brown just park Marvin Lewis. Said a little early great hall. No, they don't pose present your whole that. Anyway as had. And you know, our static. Bagel span. While time and. Yeah. You know, when I. Founded I took a religious situation. And you mentioned this comment Murray backpack. Your main priority? Trolley that you, but really the whole steams around there. Doc. All empty years. Paul Brown stadium there. I Brown does. All right. A lot of things, you know, the history. My father Paul Brad and the Cleveland Browns, direct yours. Was devastated. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, he started the start of the team and then Modell came in and basically pulled the rug out from under him and fired him. Yeah. In the nineteen fifties. Generation of people man if you got a job back, then not like his your fire. They go get another job back dead. Oh my God. He was a blow ego. People were just devastated all are tired of your job. Whereas you do somebody Brown family really for. So anyway to get on with it here. I just banging my Brown are like the thing. But done troll Brown. Is going to be by himself. Never. At the end of of what I liked. Just after the first Margot has ever swept by the Brown. And he's a longer coaching with the whole down. And appreciate you make. Absolutely John base for calling in will will will comment about this on on the area. Appreciate column in and derbies. Five we have something. Tell me about it. You ever motivated Gina play. Players better. Now fending work with Marvin purse Janjaweed overbalanced do ever this is please and prime time and big games, but see some aggressive, and some, you know, very from clear judge. Never hurry. Saw her unit. All I. Everybody that you. So that was our good friend, John guitar key. Always entertaining phone call and we had to we had to take that one there. Any thoughts any digital thoughts? John about what John from Kentucky said about the obviously we talked about this previously about how the Browns game was may have weighed heavily on the decision in terms of potentially bringing bad. Marv Lewis in the Bengals utterly failed in both of those games. First of all it's twenty nineteen. I think we should finally on the show put the put this part of the show as the John Kentucky segment is just a weekly tradition at this point. So John Kentucky shots you. We should definitely try to name the segments after you now. But yeah, it was something that I thought about after they lost second Browns game. Like, I know Mike Brown is not okay losing to the Browns because of the history. But I just I just wasn't sure if he was capable of doing the right thing in, you know, doing the one thing that a lot of us wanted him to do for somebody years. So it was like the it was just the unstoppable force meeting. The unmovable object in my mind when I was thinking about Mike Brown stop process, and I guess one side this kind of overpowed the other one. And that was the ended up being the logical right decision. So kudos to him again for just doing that. But I guess it really speaks to testament about how much of that loss kind of impacted in. And I think that's something. That's that should be worth, you know, celebrating in. And I guess when when you hold, you know, Mike Brown. Mike Brown is such a low standard that we do. And that makes sense to me. Makes sense to me is well, I'd like I said in John brought up a good point John's longtime Bengals fan, and and like a lake he said the Bengals it's just kind of unacceptable to especially in Mike Brown's is it's kind of unacceptable for the team to lose to the Browns in the way that they did to get swept in this in a season by the Browns the Bengals of loss makes them back to back games. But it was like you know, one game in one season in the first game of the next season. So they weren't you know, I guess that's a sweep away but not really because it's not the same season. But is the first time it had happened since two thousand two and we all know that two thousand two was one of the season bagels history before we get to our next segment, and maybe a couple of other listener questions towards the end of the program. We've got another another regular caller here. It's it's Terrell call giving us a call Tyrrell. How are you, sir? How how did you? Did you take Marvin Lewis news? I was I was happy. Where I'm thinking about. Is all. Other that I'm Marta was just fashioned. And they you know what I'm saying. Of the judge my slow backer like. And I'll talk it as though I just want to also today, and I want to on new guy like a fresh. Me jive eight. Air that thing for his name. Now and then. Rams to energy. Call A place with. Good point. Good point good point. Somebody that I like entry. John, nausea, and. Hey. To you. Code juvenile. And then. Thanks. Cookie cash cash. Usual saying including on the same drive. I wanted to bad on our? Awesome. You know? And in the read system has usually been quite friendly to versatile running backs, and you know, getting the ball. Yeah. Get in the ball out where where a little pressed on time, Terrell. So we're gonna we're gonna move on. Appreciate you calling in. Uday by Terrell frequent caller and always always good to hear from him. I the one thing I I wanna talk about. I mean, he's brought up a lot of good points there in terms of what needs to happen. Number one. Yeah. It's using the guys effectively on that are on the roster and getting more out of them number two. It's not wait. Like, unfortunately, keep talking about the twenty fifteen draft does not within on those picks in rounds. One two three, you know, you can't keep whipping on these on these big picks when you're relying on the draft just can't do it. But it all kinda adds up. Also to what he said, you know, the slower bigger linebackers thumpers all that kind of stuff. I don't really necessarily want us word it this way. But do you think that game in a way past Marv Lewis by absolutely absolutely? I think we always always talked about his inability to evolve to monitor I'm in while. Good point would be, you know, in the more successful years. He's been here. He's had the courtesy of leaning on some quality coordinators, whether it'd be jigger huge Hugh Jackson on defense like my my Mike Zimmer in Paul Gunter in his first year. So when they had success they had good coordinators for to help out Lewis yo game plan and called blaze. And what not, but from a general sense? You know, when you talk about the duties that Marvin Lewis had as coach whether it be, you know, in game decision-making desbrosses billion general tendencies took a long time to kind of involve into the modern game. And honestly, I do think in in a way that you know, he tried for as long as he could to make it work for the way that he want wanted to run things, whatever. But again, just like every everybody that he was just had to adapt times. Unfortunately, not only was to lady just wasn't effective at doing that. So I think just never even the loan. It was time for him to go beyond just the lack of success beyond a division title. But I definitely do think that from a roster Bill. Her and just from a coach Spanish his in game decision making. It was definitely just a case of him being stuck in time period where he was successful. Once he just wasn't anymore. Yeah. And then, you know, on top of that they just could build an identity on you know, what they were trying to do on offense or too many times where mix didn't get enough touches. And then he did it just what they were trying to do all over the map in granted. Injuries played a factor into that. But you know, you gotta kinda have a plan and identity and the Bengals really haven't had that since twenty fifteen and you know, that's it shows in their record. This is the orange black insider bangles podcast. He's John Aaron I'm Anthony disaster. We appreciate the phone calls. We received in all of the interaction all the live viewers. We allot alive you tonight. So that was pretty cool. 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