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A highlight from The Clippers Are Dumb, Plus the NFL Trade Deadline, Sleeper Teams, and 'The Godfather' With Michael Lombardi
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This month, McDonald's is upping its game by introducing two beloved sauces to its lineup. Mambo sauce and sweet and spicy jam. Hmm, why do I love these? Well, they both pack a spicy punch. They let you switch up the flavors in your usual order. I like having more choices. You know what, if you're gonna give me eight choices, why not give me 10? The sweet and spicy jam sounds delicious. These two sauces are only available for a limited time at participating McDonald's, so make sure to try them. While you can, tap the banner to learn more. We're also brought to you by The Ringer Podcast Network. I put up a new rewatchables on Monday night. We did the Omen. We did the OG Omen. We did the 1976 one. One of the creepiest movies ever made with some of the scariest scenes that have ever been in any of these movies. Me and Chris Ryan broke all of it down for you. What else happened in The Ringer universe? Oh, The Ringerverse crew. Everybody got together for the first time and they did a live show in LA on Monday night and even dressed up for Halloween, a couple of them. It was great, great to see everybody all together. Check out the, all of our basketball stuff on Ringer NBA, Mismatch, Brazilos Pod, Ringer Gambling. Austin Rivers has his new podcast, Off Guard. And then obviously our football stuff, all our culture stuff as well. And we're gonna have a big announcement on this podcast on Thursday about an upcoming show you might not be expecting. Coming up in this pod, I'm gonna talk about the Clippers trading for James Harden at the top and why I thought it was a huge mistake. And then our old friend Mike Lombardi, we're gonna talk about the trade deadline in the NFL as well as what team that seemingly looks like their season's almost over might actually jump in the second half of the year. And then last but not least, we're gonna talk Italian movies and Italian TV shows because why not? This is a fun podcast. First, our friends from Pearl Jam. ["PURL JAM"] All right, I'm taping this on Tuesday before the Clippers game on Tuesday night. The Clippers traded for James Harden late night. They tried to do this as late as possible at night when the most possible people were asleep because they were embarrassed by this trade. And they should be because they're the Clippers. They haven't made the finals ever in the history of the franchise, dating back to Buffalo in 1970, talking five and a half decades of bad luck, terrible injuries, mismanagement. We had the Donald Sterling piece of it. We had load management. And in the last couple of years, they've had some of the worst playoff losses of the 21st century. And now they're trading for a guy who's quit on his last three teams. So they decided, you know what, we'll do this in the middle of the night on the East Coast at least. So we'll take the least amount of slack. They were bidding against nobody. There's 30 teams in the league. One of them had James Harden. 28 other teams were like, we're good. And the Clippers said, you know what, we need this guy. We'll still be not nearly as good as Denver, but if we do this, maybe we could lose in either round two or round three, maybe? I just feel like they don't have any draft picks left for the rest of the decade. So they basically traded three picks for James Harden. The worst one was a 2028 unprotected first. Why do this now? Why do this for a team with no other offers? Why bid against yourself? And why not just wait? If you know you're trading basically two and a half picks plus all these expirings they had, why not wait? The league, I don't know if you've watched it the first week, the league is more talented and more loaded than it's ever been, probably in 30 years. And there's a really, really, really good chance that a couple teams that thought they were gonna be good are not gonna be good. Like for instance, Memphis is 0 -4. Or is Memphis gonna go 25 and 57? Probably not. But there's gonna be a couple teams that are just way worse than they expected. And guess what happens after Thanksgiving and in December and in January? Those teams panic. Guys become available. Like what if Toronto is bad? What if they're like, you know what, Pascal Siakam, this just isn't working for us. What if Chicago, who's already had two team meetings, I think, in three games, what if they decide to put Zach Levine on the table? Like you just don't know. What you do know now is that there was only one team bidding for James Harden and the Clippers ended up with him anyway. The other thing, if you're giving up this much for one guy, I better know that I have a chance to actually win the title. And I just don't feel like they do. I went to the game Sunday night. Kawhi, he looks fine. He looks fine. Does he look like the Kawhi from the mid -2010s? No. Does he look like the guy from 2019 Toronto? He does not. He looks like an older playing himself back in the shape version of Kawhi. And if that's your best player, that's just not gonna be enough this year. The Celtics are too good. Denver is too good. Milwaukee has Giannis and Dame. Phoenix has a ton of scoring. Golden State's gonna be really good. They're still not in the mix. So that was my first issue. The second one, who are you getting? Who are you getting in this trade? Where you're getting I .S. Quinn on three teams. You're getting the most disappointing playoff star this century, literally this century. And there's no other person you can put in there. There's nobody who has even half of the qualifications from a playoff disappointment standpoint that this guy does. Zach Lowe came on the Book of Basketball podcast, I think in 2019, we did a James Harden podcast. And in that podcast, which was four years ago, called him the Karl Malone of guards. And I was immediately the most jealous I've ever been of a comparison. Since then, he had the 2020 bubble flame out. Then they had in 2022, the Miami series, which he sucked in. And then in 2023, the Celtic series, this guy, it's an all time resume. And the Clippers who are just playoff futility through and through for the entire franchise history were like, that's the guy. That's the guy that can take the lovable loser Clippers over the top, James Harden. He slows you down. He needs the ball all the time. The Clippers now have Paul George, who succeeds the most when he has the ball. Koulai Leonard, who has perennially succeeded the most when he has the ball. Russell Westbrook, who loves to either have the ball or crash the boards. And now Harden, who needs the ball. See four guys who need the ball. Then Norm Powell comes in, he needs the ball. Bones Holland comes in, he needs the ball. Are we playing with three balls now? No, we're gonna still play with one. James Harden can't guard anybody. That seems relevant. He hasn't played defense in four years.
A highlight from A Dame Trade Deep Dive With Ben Thompson, Plus Seth Meyers and Million-Dollar Picks
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We did the big chill. It was very, very exciting. I have Kyle Brandt coming on Monday's podcast. I'm just gonna tell you the movie now because it is gonna be the best moment of your weekend if you spent two hours watching this classic. We're doing Toy Soldiers. It really brings everything possible to the table. So if you wanna watch it ahead of time, there it is. That podcast is going up Monday night. If you wanna hear stuff about the debate, we have Tara Paul and Mary's podcast, Somebody's Gotta Win. That reacted to it as well as the press box with Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. So there you go. Our debate coverage has been on point. Also, higher learning. Van and Rachel had Larry Elder on this weekend. It made a lot of noise, man. That podcast is great. I hope you check that out as well. Hope you're checking out theringer .com. And on this podcast, gonna talk about the dame trade at the top. We're gonna bring in Ben Thompson from the Techery newsletter, which he's been on this podcast I think four weeks ago. And he's a huge Bucks fan. He's gonna give the Bucks fan side of things. We're gonna do million dollar picks. And then old friend Seth Meyers talking about a whole bunch of stuff. So really good podcast. It's all next. First, our friends from Pro Jam. What's up? All right, I'm taping this on Thursday afternoon. Normally when there's a big MBA trade, I always do the emergency trade reaction right after the podcast. But we just put up a podcast on Tuesday. So I decided to play it a little differently this time. I wanted a little distance, I wanted to listen to stuff, read stuff, and try to form some big picture opinions coming out of this. So I have four smaller ones, then one big one. First one, I thought Portland did an incredible job with this trade. I really liked this trade, especially everyone was trying to bully them in June and July about, oh, you got to take Miami's offer. You just got to. It's where he wants to go. It's the only offer you're going to get. And guess what? They waited. They played it perfectly. They stared Miami down, and they got a much better deal. First of all, they get the Drew Holiday piece that they can flip into a bunch out of their stuff, which we'll talk about in one second. I love the DeAndre Ayton gamble. As you know, on this podcast, I am a big DeAndre Ayton guy. Not in the sense of I'm the biggest fan of his in the world, but I'm a fan of the asset. I just think I love the valued assets, no matter what it is. Whatever market we're talking about, DeAndre Ayton, 18 and 10 for his career, 60 % field goals percentage, 25 years old. He's played in 45 playoff games. He played four rounds in the 2021 finals. Last year, he got his ass kicked by Jokic. Oh, sorry. Like, that never happens. And Phoenix just sold on him, which I can't wait to talk about. But just from a Portland standpoint, they not only get Ayton in whatever they get for holiday, they get the 29 first, they get the two swaps, and they dump Nurkic. Nurkic hasn't had a healthy start to finish all the way through the playoffs here since 2018, which I'm positive was a long time ago. He's basically 12 and 8. He's, you know, a 50 % shooter. I made a list of the top 30 centers. I encourage you to do this at home, because what's more fun than making lists of NBA centers? I can't imagine anything. I made a list of who I thought were the best assets of the center position for talent, contract, everything. He was 29th on my list. The only person I had ahead of him who's technically a starter, unless you start talking about the Detroit or Charlotte guys, was Zubats on the Clippers. I thought he was the 29th best center asset in the league. And Phoenix, you know, just quickly to go to them, they're trying to win this year. They got worse. They turned Ayton's money into Nurkic and Grayson Allen and Nasir Little. Grayson Allen, we already know with him, he can't play in playoff series. We saw him 22. We saw it last year. I heard and read in some places like that, I got two rotation players. Did they? Is Nurkic a playoff rotation player? Is Grayson Allen a playoff rotation player? Because I'm positive he's not. So for the same money that they were spending on Ayton, they got three guys that I don't think are going to help them. In 25, the money comes down a little bit to 23 million just for Nurkic and Little, which is 7 million less than Ayton. And then in 26, that money goes up to 25 .5. But I don't understand what Phoenix was doing. Why not wait to see if Ayton clicks with Vogel? Vogel has such a good history with centers. He rejuvenated Dwight Howard on the 2020 Lakers. He basically created Roy Hibbert's career in 2013 with the defense verticality thing. I thought he was going to do a good job with Ayton. I'm stunned that they gave up on him. I'm almost waiting for one of those, now they tell us stories when, you know, that's where Brian Curtis calls them, where like a week after something happens, there's this kind of notebook dump where it's like, here's seven terrible DeAndre Ayton stories. So maybe that'll happen. But for Phoenix just to be like, cool, we locked this down, man. We got Nurkic. You're trying to win the title. You have KD and Booker and Beal. And like, what are you guys doing? Anyway, from Portland's standpoint, I love the Ayton thing. I love that they didn't get bullied. And I know they're going to turn Drew Holliday into something. So this to me was at least an A minus for them, for where they were two months ago, where Dave's like, I want to go to Miami. That's it. And if you don't trade me there, that's kind of fucked up. And they made this work as it got reported that, uh, I think in the athletic, that he expanded his list to Brooklyn and to Milwaukee in the last two weeks. And that's what Portland was waiting on. You know, they were banking on the fact that he's a competitive dude. He's one of the best 75 pairs ever. He wanted a situation settled. So, you know, you wait, you wait, you wait, they expand the list and then you go. Uh, there's a Drew Holliday piece to this. That's awesome. He becomes a contender prize. I wouldn't call this a Drew Holliday sweepstakes. I reserved sweepstakes for the superstars, but it's a mini sweepstakes. This is somebody that could have a huge impact on the playoff race. You know, not only the usual suspects, everybody's talking about Boston, ironically, Miami is a really good fit for him. And in some ways, um, I'm a little more scared of them with Miami than Dame in some ways, especially at a much cheaper contract with giving up less and keeping some of their assets. Philly, if they could pull it off, they have to be in there in Golden State, Minnesota. I think I have to mention Sacramento, I think is a team that if they could figure out how to get Drew without giving up their core, which is basically Keegan Murray and Sabonis and Fox, like that's, you know, could Davion Mitchell be in that trade with some, with a salary and some picks, who knows. The team that I love for Drew Holliday is OKC. I have OKC, you know, I started doing my MBA research for the over -under spot and I haven't landed on a number for them yet, but to me, they feel like a high forties team with Chet and with the growth of their young guys. And if you just like, let's say they traded Lou Dort and a bunch of their picks, maybe two firsts and two of their lesser picks or three firsts and a second, whatever it is. And they just say, fuck it. And they get Drew and you put him with Giddy and SGA and Jalen fucking awesome Williams and Chet Holmgren and all these other dudes they have, that might be a top three team in the West. I mean, that, that's starting to give me some early 2010s OKC vibes. So where he goes is going to be important. I just feel like there was so much Drew Holliday slander the last couple of days. You know, he's one of my favorite players. Even Haralabob, who was the chairman of the board of the Drew Holliday fan club for years and would have the benefit dinners there and, you know, just did a lot of yeoman's work on that front. And even he was like, yeah, yeah, Dame's better than Drew. That trade makes sense for Milwaukee. I was hurt, Haralabob. I was 100 % hurt by that. But you know, Drew got his ass kicked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year. I get it. It happens. Jimmy was unbelievable. I feel like he would have kicked anybody's ass. By the way, why is Drew Holliday guarding Jimmy Butler? That speaks more to some of the issues with Milwaukee. He was never supposed to be a point guard and a creator. I think he was always better as an off -the -ball guy. We saw that with Rondo and New Orleans and just in general. I want to see him with a point guard. I want to see him just being unleashed, not having the ball a lot, just worrying about hitting threes, being an occasional, you know, make -shit -happen guy and being like the third or fourth best guy on a team without having the offensive responsibility to have. All their half court issues got blamed on him for the last couple of years. And I get it. They weren't like an awesome half -court team, even the other one in the finals, but I really value that dude. I had him, even I did the trade value list in August and I had him 37th and I had Dame 23rd. I think he's one of the best 30 players in the league still. He's 33 years old, which, you know, I'm going to talk in a second about when guards hit their mid -30s, but just in general, I think he's a real asset. If he goes to a team like the Celtics and they can keep Derek White and Tatum and Brown in the center, it's like, look out, man. So little mini sweepstakes, rarely do we get the trade, but then we still get another asset to talk about. Thank you for everyone involved in the trade. And then the fourth small point is just that, you know, not rocket science, Milwaukee bought some Giannis time here. They have one of the best 20 players of all time. They were staring down the barrel of a situation that was not good. I was talking about it on this podcast in late June and early July. I thought he was going to put them on the clock. I thought Mark Lasry selling his stake was a really bad sign for all of this because that dude is smart. As I laid out in June, that guy is really smart. And if he's feeling like, you know what, it's time for me to sell my buck stock, that makes me nervous. And then all the stuff that Giannis said and did, which I thought he did really fairly and really smartly. And I think that dude's about titles and that's it. And I know we say that about players, but I think in his case, I don't think he cares about, you know, what's my legacy, how do I compare against Dirk DeWhisky, any of that stuff. I just think he wants more rings. I mean, think about the guys who have won two rings out of the best 35 guys on my list of my pyramid. Those are all guys in my top 35 that won multiple wings. You go to the one -ring side, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Dirk, Jokic, Giannis, Pettit, Garnett, Kawhi, Rick Barry. That's the list he's on now. I certainly don't think he's looking at that list going, I got to get away from these guys, but it's a slightly different list. I think when you win multiple rings in multiple situations, it elevates you in a certain way. I think he fundamentally understands that at least a little bit. I want to be the best player since LeBron James. I think that's a thing that he wants. How am I going to do that? I need more rings. I need more finals trips. He knew from last year and maybe even the Boston series that they just weren't good enough. Whether this trade is going to be the thing that propels them, we'll find out, but he's been in the league 10 years, two MVPs, five first teams, two second teams, and now we have this little two -year window. Kawhi and the Raptors was a one -year window. This is a two -year window, I feel like. With Giannis, he's got two years left in his deals. So does Lopez. Middleton has two in a player option. Dame's got two, and then this crazy $120 million player option extension thingy that he has that just keeps going and going. It's probably two years. There's a world where this could go terribly this season, at least for what the expectations are, and then maybe it becomes Kawhi, Raptors. Maybe Giannis is like, you know what? That didn't work. Trade me. And the Bucks, who have no picks left and no future, they look at it next summer, and they go, all right. We tried it. Giannis, what can we get for you? Dame, what can we get? And they just do a reboot, rehaul. Remember, they won in 2021, which just takes so much pressure out of this. It's so much different than the Clippers situation, where they went all in on Kawhi and Paul George. They give up all those picks and SGA, and they've gotten nothing out of it. They haven't even made the finals. So it's got to happen. I think they at least probably have to make the finals. If they get bounced in round two, do I think Giannis is going to stay because they made this Dame -Mower trade? Probably not. So that leads to the big question, is how good of a trade was this? So there's a big picture angle on Dame, and it's going to sound negative, but I really don't want it to sound negative because I think Dame, I voted for him for NBA Top 75. I think he's been one of the best guards in the last 15 years. I think there's a ton of great things you can say, and there's a chance that he goes to Milwaukee, and this thing is fucking awesome. I know any Celtic fan I've talked to, including Isaiah, who's helping produce this podcast today, the Giannis -Dame pick and roll is just terrifying. Other than Jokic and Murray, it's going to be the single most unstoppable offensive play in the league. It is. We are conceding that point. The spot Dame is in right now, big picture -wise, it's weird. He's a superstar, but he's not, and we've seen guys like this before. I judge superstars by, do you have the resume statistically, and is your team succeeding consistently at a certain level? You can't totally say that about Dame. He's never been on a 55 -win team. He's missed the playoffs completely four times in 11 years. He said three first -round exits. He made the Final Four once in 2019, which was really lucky because Golden State and Houston were the two best teams, and then they got smoked. He's never been on a true contender ever. Instinctively, you go, well, that's not his fault. Who's he played with? Well, he played with LaMarcus Aldridge and CJ McCollum and a couple other guys, but not really anybody. The reason I'm putting this up is there's a success element that he has not had yet that for somebody with his resume is actually kind of unusual. I went and I looked up how many guards in the history of the league averaged 22 points a game for their career and played at least 700 games. I thought the list would be like 20. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was walking into. Only I think 75 guys have averaged 22 a game. So I went and I looked up the list, and it was 10 guys, 700 games, 22 a game for their career. There were some guys who came close like David Thompson, who I think is one of the best guards I've seen in the last 45 years, but had a short career and had some drug issues. He didn't make it. He didn't play enough games. Pete Maravich, 24 .2 points a game, but he didn't play enough games. Kyrie hasn't played enough games yet. Bradley Beale is five games away. I'm actually kind of glad the cutoff's at 700 so we don't have to talk about him. And then Mitchell and Trey Young aren't there yet. There's only 10 guys that made it, and the 10 guys are all fucking awesome. And again, I mentioned this in the context of Dame, who we think he is versus the success he's had. So the 10 guys, Michael Jordan, 30 .1, Jerry West, 27 .1, Allen Averson, 26 .7, George Gervin, 26 .2, Oscar Robertson, 25 .7, Kobe, 25 .0, Harden, 24 .7, Curry, 24 .6, Wade, 22, barely made it, and Russ, 22 .4, and then Dame is at 25 again. All right, what does he not have that those other guys have? Well, MJ, don't need to talk about him. Don't need to talk about Jerry West, who's the freaking logo. Allen Averson, pretty good comparison, right? Big stats, really memorable player, but not a ton of success. Here's the difference. Averson made the finals once. He won an MVP. Dame has done neither of those things. George Gervin was the best scoring guard of the 70s. He made two final fours. He had some bad luck. He really, in 79, really should have came close. And some of it's on him, right? He could have come through. Bobby Dandridge is the one that ended up coming through for the Bullets. They lose. But two final fours, he had four top five MVP finishes, five first teams, four second teams. He was just unassailably the best guard in the league until MJ. Oscar Robertson, don't need to go through him, but he won a ring and an MVP. Kobe, five rings and an MVP. Eleven first teams for Kobe, by the way. James Harden, three final fours, an MVP, six top five MVP finishes, six first team MBAs. And even though Harden has never made the finals as the best guy, he made it with OKC as the sixth man, you could build a contender around Harden. We saw it. We haven't really seen it with Dame. I think that's a fair thing to bring up. Curry, four rings, two MVPs, you know, the Curry thing. Dwayne Wade, three rings, two top five MVPs, two first teams, three second teams. He's more in the Dame waters a little bit, but he had the 2006 finals and he was the second best guy with LeBron on those heat teams. And then Westbrook, who you would say, well, Dame had a better career than Westbrook. Did he? Westbrook made the finals in 2012. He was second best guy on that team. Almost made the finals in 2016. He won an MVP. He had two first teams and five second teams. It's at least like a real argument. And I think when you look at Dame, he only had that one 2019 round three, got bounced. He's only had one top five MVP finish. He's only had one first team MBA and four second team MBAs. Really, really good top 75 career. But the piece that's missing is, have you been on a really good team? Have you made a real run at it? Which is why, you know, I think this Milwaukee trade is so much fun. This is his real chance. I get nervous about a couple things with this trade. One is that, you know, if you look at the 33 and older guards who average 22 points a game in a season. Jordan did it twice. Curry did it twice. Still going. Kobe did it three times. Jerry West twice. Sam Jones once. Hal Greer once. That's the entire list. Now the NBA is different. We have more three -pointers now. It's easier to score. Scoring is the easiest it's ever been. Guys can play at a longer age. So I'm not ruling out Dane being good for the next three years. But just pointing out, history is saying, be a little nervous. In general with guards, like Chris Paul, we saw from age 35 to 36 to 37, like it just dropped. But that's two years older than Dane. Maybe it's fine. I just worry about guards. We have not a lot of instances with guards in their mid -30s of them either peaking as players or being able to sustain whatever success they had during their prime. It always starts to go down with really no exceptions, except for Steph Curry. He's the only non -exception. So if your case is Dane's as good as Steph Curry, or Dane can be as potent as Steph Curry on a winning team, like, you know, Steph Curry is better than Dane, but I'm not going to argue that he couldn't do a lot of the stuff that Curry did in Golden State. The bigger issue for me, the age I'm definitely worried about. Dane has not been healthy the last couple of years, and we have not seen him play nine straight months at playoff basketball with a big bullseye on his back. Everybody coming after you, you're the best team. We haven't seen him do that ever, much less than the last couple of seasons. So can he stay up? Can he stay healthy? That's one thing. The defense with Dane just got kind of swept under the rug the last couple days, and I don't really understand it because there's five categories of defensive player I feel like. There's excellent, there's good, there's average, there's not so good, and then there's bad. And I think Dane's a bad defender. I think the stats back it up. Like, his defensive rating last year was 245 out of the guards. He's the 245th guard for defensive rating. You know, 117 .4 individual defensive rating is 483 overall. Portland's team's always defensively, it was the Achilles heel for them. Partly because of Dane, because he couldn't guard anybody. He's too small. And, you know, think about what we saw from the playoffs the last couple years. I think about the 2020 bubble Celtics playoffs, not infrequently, because I think that team had a chance to potentially win a title. What happened? Everyone hunted Kemba Walker. It was hunting season. It's like, where is he? Got to get a switch. Got to get Kemba Walker guarding somebody who's bigger, or got to beat him off the dribble, and it just became a hunt session with him. And basically, he got played out of the league. He's not in the league anymore. You know, we had this with Isaiah Thomas, too, in the mid -2010s. I think it's been an issue with Kyrie Irving. The Celtics certainly went at him in the playoff series with Brooklyn a couple years ago. Curry, you saw, who I think is a better defender than people give him credit for, but the And he's a much better defender than Dame is. Jordan Poole is somebody that got hunted in playoff series recently. Chris Paul, obviously, is a big one. Jalen Brunson, remember what the Heat did to him? Mitchell, when he was on Utah, this was a huge issue. And then Trae Young, obviously. My fear with Dame is he's a DH, and I think in Portland, part of the reasons he was able to put up the stats he did was because he wasn't playing defense, right? It was just, how many points can I score? My team isn't very good, and I'm just going to do my thing. He's an incredible offensive player. But how much of a trade -off is the defense, right? Well, you think, all right, well, Milwaukee, they're really good defensively. They'll be able to protect him. Here's the team. Giannis, Dame, Lopez, Portis, Middleton, Conaton, Beauchamp, Crowder. Who's guarding Trae Young on this team? Who's guarding Jason Tatum? Here's a partial list of guys that I don't think this team will be able to guard this season. Devin Booker, Tatum, Butler, Trae Young, Kyrie, Curry. Who's going to be chasing Curry around the screens? Dame lowered? Good luck. SGA, Luca, Mitchell, Murray, Edwards, Brunson, Ja, Garland, Fox, Halburn. Are they going to be able to cover Derek White? I don't know. The way this team is constructed, they are not going to have the ability to guard other guards at all, which means they're just going to have to be in a shooting match with them, right? It's going to be not much different than what's going to happen with Phoenix, where they're just literally going to have to outscore the other team. I've just watched too much playoff basketball over the last couple years, where it's like, if you have that weak link on defense, and you're playing a team that's smart enough, they're going to go after that weak link. Like, think about them against the Lakers, right? The Lakers figure their crunch time. Let's say they make the finals. It's Milwaukee and the Lakers, and Lakers crunch time. They're going to have LeBron and Davis and Austin Reeves and, I don't know, a shooter and a point guard, whatever. All they're going to be doing is trying to find where Dame is on the court and going after him. What about when they play Boston? Boston puts out White and Brogdon and Tatum and Brown and a center, and all they're going to be doing is trying to make sure Dame is covering somebody who has the ball who's now torturing him. I think it's a real problem for them. And what's funny is they gave up Drew's defense and, you know, they, what they gave up on defense, which is significant, and they gained an offense, it might end up just being a wash and they might just be a different version of the same team where they still have a huge flaw. It's just on the other end of the court. I'm just shocked that nobody brought up the defense. I agree he's an amazing offensive player and what's cool about this trade and what I'm excited about as a basketball fan is, can he go up a level? Right? A lot of these stats he put up, especially the last couple years. They didn't mean anything. They were, he was on bad teams. Like, who cares? Ultimately, Bradley Beal scored 30 points a game on the Wizards. Who cares? I think most really good offensive players, if they're on a bad team, can get between 25 and 30 a night. Can you do it nine months in a row? Can you do it when you're getting hunted on defense all over the place? How much can Milwaukee protect him? And what does he have in the tank at age 33 with 900 plus games on the O 'Dominor already? I'm still afraid of the Bucks, but people have, like, FanDuel had them as best odds in basketball and I think most people feel like they're the favorite now. I don't feel like there's a favorite. I think you can go through every team. Boston, I could, I'm scared of Porzingis. What's going to happen with Jalen Brown out there? He has contracts. Can Peyton Pritchard, all these different things. Philly, God only knows. Miami, they're unquestionably worse. Yeah, Milwaukee is going to be really good, but depending where Holiday lands and how this all plays out, I just think it's still wide open. And the other piece, so if you're just talking Boston, Miami, Tatum kills Milwaukee. I have no idea why. Boston is kind of built to at least stay with Dame and, you know, Derek White is about as good of a person you're going to have to try to keep Dame in check, at least. And Boston's done a really good job of guarding Giannis over the years. They don't have Grant Williams this year, but I just don't think, I think there's as many ways this goes wrong as it goes right, I guess would be my final thought on this because for what they gave up, especially with that 29 unprotected and the two swaps and, you know, they are all in on this team. And you know my theory, when you go all in on a team, you better think you can win. Not positive, but it's an awesome trade. It really is. It makes the league so much more fun. Dame and Giannis together. I'm going to enjoy watching Portland. I still have my eating stock. Watching Phoenix fans slowly realize that Derkiszna isn't the answer is going to be fun and then we'll see where Drew Holliday goes. So really fun trade. We're going to talk about it a little bit more with Die Hard Bucks fan, Ben Thompson in one second. Let's take a break.
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"Paul George and Terrence man each scored 26 points as the clippers beat the suns one 16, one O 7. Kawhi Leonard added 16 points all in the second half as the clippers picked up their second straight win and going to the all star break with a record of 33 and 28. Joyce says he was pleased the way the team held off a late rally by the suns. Great went going into the break. You know, I thought we just played great team basketball. We shared it. We got stops when we needed to. And, you know, again, we played as a group. Joshua kogi had 24 to lead the sons. Their record falls to 32 and 28. Towards Tanner, Phoenix
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"It's just in health and safety protocols. So that's the story. And then the last thing we have yet to get to this, but our March Madness bracket winner. Yes. Absolutely. Let me pull this up here. So we got a super if you guys remember, we offered, hey, just write any rant. As long as you keep it appropriate and don't act like crazy, we'll read it and everything and our March Madness, bracket winner on Twitter at a mortal mamba. So if you want to go over and tell them, good job with this. He can be friends with Trevor and I both because he is a Lakers and Yankees fan. Here, but he says, and I'm just going to read it. Hi, Trevor and Keith. I'm goal Lakers from the bracket. First of all, that was pure luck for me to win it. Since I'm from Taiwan, so shout out thanks, man. For doing this, there was no local TV broadcasting NCAA, didn't even know some of the schools. So one proves what a caption picking these up. Rackets are. I have been a Lakers fan from the late 2000s. This is for sure the toughest season I've experienced. Mainly because the gap between the expectation and the result is too huge. But like Trevor says this off season is going to be very important. And I'd like to trust rob again. Hope that there is going to be a Lakers Celtics final for title number 18 in the near future. That would be fantastic. And hope that clippers don't win any title, at least until they move to another so I thought that bar was pretty funny. And then he closes with finally I want to thank you guys for the shows almost every day. Games are usually in the morning here. The show is really helped me catch up on all the things that happened in the NBA. By the way, looking forward to the marvel shows in the summertime. That's right. Thanks so much for that immortal mamba. Congratulations. We appreciate it. And I know at least one guy who is hoping it's Celtics Lakers for title 18. I would be okay personally now if the Lakers are trying to play catch up again, but I figured you wouldn't mind that scenario. But yes, I think it would be great to see. It has certainly been a very tough season. It's been a very tough time for Lakers fans. We're going to be talking about a lot of that stuff all off season long, a little bit here. A lot of, obviously, a lot over at the Lakers nation YouTube channel. But a lot of stuff going on with both teams and yeah, very, very cool too, that it was someone coming in from Taiwan. It's just one thing that's blown me away since starting doing this, Keith and it's been, gosh, about 6 years or so now that we've been doing the postgame show in the podcast, or maybe since we actually started broadcasting it on social media, it was probably a bit about 5 years or whatever. But just in that, even in that.
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Hire, you need indeed. Another big man that's out for the year. Miles Turner for the Indiana Pacers. And of course, you know, when we say out for the year, it sounds, it sounds awful. It sounds like, oh my gosh, he's out for the year, but there's just not that much time left in the year. So the pacers deciding, you know, we're just going to hold miles Turner out for the remainder of the season. Yeah, you do. It's not even is he ready to get on the floor or not. It doesn't make sense for them to put him on the floor, particularly if they do have an eye towards potentially trading him this off season. I mean, the worst thing is you put them on the floor and then he suffers another injury, yeah, that's not the position the pacers want to be in. So it makes total sense for them not to play him for the remainder of the season and instead to look ahead to this summer and beyond. Yeah, and we talked, I feel like it probably a month ago, hey, this might be a good opportunity to get them out there. When it sounded like he was coming back, get them out there with the guys they acquired at the trade deadline, see what that could look like. Put them together. But they're 7 games left. That's not enough of a long for it to be worth it. So you just, you know, you'll get that look to soft season and go into next year with whatever your new iteration of your team looks like. My guess is I don't even think it's a really good guess. They're going to try to rebuild this thing on the fly. They get back to being a playoff team. Next season. So we'll see whether bound starter is a part of that or not. My guess is at least initially he will. And they do sign Justin Anderson on a ten day contract. So they'll bring him in just a Anderson. He feels like he's been, he's been everywhere..
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"But they also lost LeBron James to an ankle injury. He got it out and played the rest of the game, but very clearly it was not anywhere close to 100%. And afterwards, told us that his ankle felt horrible. That was his word. And then admitted that it had swelled up today. We got our media availability of Frank Vogel admitted that it swelled up. The ankle did and LeBron James is officially doubtful for tomorrow night against the Dallas Mavericks, Anthony Davis, meanwhile, got upgraded to doubtful. So there's some good news. Went through a full practice. Today, including scrimmaging and all of that. So bad news, good news. Both LeBron and AD doubtful for the game against the Mavs, but hope that LeBron is not a long-term injury and Anthony Davis sounds like he is decently close to returning for LA. Yeah, it's getting down to her, right? Time left in the season standings wise. They have by far and away far more difficult stretch to close here than either the Republicans or the spurs do. They're just a game up on the spurs and you just gotta imagine Greg Popovich would love to knock him out. They actually asked after the spurs beat the pelicans on maybe Saturday, it might have been. I think it was Saturday. They asked Dijon Murray, do you guys want to get into the play in tournament? And he's like, yeah, absolutely we do. So yeah, we'll see organizationally if that's still the goal. If they pull any more of these games where everybody sits, that starts to tell me a different story, but if they're going to play, play it out, there's the way. You know, it's going to be a battle to get in. And yeah, I mean, it didn't look good when LeBron went down. It was one of those gets up and he played and it's like, man, this dude's just like where we see his cyborg. He's a robot. Nothing can take him out. But you could tell by the end of the game. He didn't have any lift. He just wasn't moving well and just, you know, and then as you said, the rest of the guys just don't step up and it just kind of falls apart and becomes a mess. Yep. Yep. And that's the world that we're living in right now. Certainly, but LeBron James, hopefully his ankle does heal up, but I mean, air travel doesn't help with that. And that's what the Lakers are doing a lot of right now. Speaking of injuries though, we've got almost our whole shows injuries today..
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"News if you're one of the teams that could wind up having to play against the clippers. But Timberwolves or nuggets too, right in that first plane. Yeah, that's not great. Nope. So Paul George returned to practice. Will he return? That doesn't mean he's returning this season, but obviously it's a good sign though. It's a step in the right direction. The clippers, of course, have long said though that this is a long-term thing. They're not going to rush anything. I think if he's anything less than a 100%, they're not going to put him back out on the floor, but if he is, maybe that shakes things up a little bit in the playoffs. Sure, now we got used to the clippers kind of shenanigans in the playoffs last year after we knew Kauai was out. But it is interesting that they haven't ruled Paul George, Kawhi. Norm Powell. They have a rule to any of those guys out for the season yet. So there is some buzz and potential out there that let's see where we're at. Again, though, I do wonder like really those aren't normal piles a little bit different, but like Kawhi, you're not throw him right into a playoff game like that would feel a little odd. To me, but I don't know, to me, although this says is like, they're gonna, they're gonna have to be way up there as far as favorites for the title for next year. Absolutely. Pending one of the roster moves other teams make. And they're so deep. Like that's gonna be the thing and they've got all the pieces if they need to make trades or anything like that. So yeah, but we'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get to that. I was thinking about. The blazers have signed drew Eubanks and Chris Dunn to ten day deals in Keith I was asking you about this before we came out because it feels like these guys have been on ten days forever. Where are we at in terms of hardship today? Because this season has been bizarre and we've had hardship ten days. We've had regular ten days, some counts. What's the story here? Yeah, so this is true banks fourth, ten days. With the blazers. Now, in a normal year, you can sign two ten day contracts with the same player same team..
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"They're just going to do what they want to do and they're going to they're just going to grind you into submission. I mean, Devin Booker Leslie, he was so good. 49 points and ten assists. Last night. I mean, he was unbelievable. You know, the way he played Denver. I mean, it felt like one of the points of the game where I was watching. They tried just about everything that they could on him. Hey, no, no, no options. At all. I mean, they're good. I continue to say if there's one team in the league that you were in a force me to pick to win the championship. Right now, it would be the Phoenix Suns. I would give them the best chances by far and away of above 18. I haven't looked, but I would assume they're the betting favorite as well to win the whole thing right now. I gotta imagine now I know as odd as this may be, I think the Celtics are still the 5 38 model. Odds. I think we're still the top top box. Let me see. It's crazy. It's right now. It's the suns. Guess who's number two? Is it the Celtics? It's the net. Of winning the fund? Oh, yeah. Do you have it sorted by when I just pulled it up? By raptor, chance of winning the final Celtics 30%. Oh, you're looking at it. Okay. Okay, so we're talking to you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that doesn't, I guess, surprise me all that much. That's interesting. But 5 38 odds, chances of winning the finals, Celtics, 30% suns, 20% bucks 15. Nobody else is higher than 8, 8% though, the Denver Nuggets. Really? Yeah, which seems odd considering they may be in the plan tournament. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they're raptor model. If you go to elo, elo flips over to the suns at 41%. Celtics at 29%, nobody else above 9%, which is a grizzlies. Vegas has the Celtics plus 1400. The sun's sun's plus 400. You might have to go put some money down on that thing. It won't send you back real quick. Go drop a little coin there. Go drop enough and we'll both have students. This is a little crazy to me. The sons are right now a plus 400, then nets are plus four 50..
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Goal, but yeah, I think you'd rather you'd rather try to be hoping that the raptors move past calves, as you said. And that kind of removes that. And then you kind of get the fun storyline of Kyrie going back to Cleveland and all that stuff in there. And all I'm hoping for really is that the Cavs raptors and nets get those 6, 7, 8 spots. Because nothing against the hornets in the hawks, but I just don't feel like they played well enough. Where do you think those other three have separated themselves? This is kind of the downside to the play in tournament, where it's exciting and it's fun and all that, but these other three teams of all played enough better that I feel more comfortable about them. But it is what it is. Well, there is one hornets nets game left on the schedule. So that may matter as well. Again, the hornets are a game back. The hawks are two games back. I just see, with Kyrie back, I would have to imagine the nets can hold off those two teams, but again, this is where I'd have to go into their schedule as well. We got it. I have it right. Okay, you've got the hornet schedule. So they lost a Memphis. Okay. Yeah, they're nice. I did this one, they had ten games left. So now they're at Miami. That's our next one. That's pretty tough. Regardless. Kyrie will play, but that stuff. Then Charlotte, that game you were mentioning. That's a pretty big one. Then you've got the Detroit Pistons, that should be a win. Then they've got the box. That's a tough one, even though it's in Brooklyn. Then add Atlanta could be maybe a pick the nets to win that. Then it gets kind of easy for three of the last four. It's Houston, New York, diverse Cleveland. That's a huge game in the next last game of the season. And then versed in Indiana. So I think you can feel pretty comfortable in that last 9. Probably picking out at least four or 5 wins. I think you feel really good about getting more than that, probably starts to be a little bit more of a toss up. You know, not impossible, but hey, having Kyrie makes it a heck of a lot easier than not having Kyrie. And let me mention this too. That Knicks game. So Houston and then New York, that Knicks game's second night of a back to back might that be an opportunity for some rest there. I wouldn't be surprised if we see it depends on how things are looking in the standings, but end of the season, sometimes we do get some of that kind of craziness in terms of rest and stuff like that coming up..
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Probably not going to see them play this year. Yeah. I think that's pretty fair. You know, it's the kind of thing where what you're talking about in terms of reincorporating them into the roster into the lineup. It's not just about those guys getting back on the floor and getting their legs under them. It's about the other guys and how they react to them. So it's an adjustment for Kawhi. It's an adjustment for Paul George, but the entire team has to adjust to their presence. And that's where you can see the clippers just say, you know what? We're not going to have time. And really, they shouldn't force anything, especially health wise. I think this team is set up for the future. So I don't think they have to rush anything right now. Exactly. Yeah, there's absolutely no reason. All right, let's jump to the Philadelphia 76ers. The Brooklyn Nets Ben Simmons, this whole situation. Ron garman did a great video for us earlier today about what's going on here because this is fascinating. It's just what I think this whole Ben Simmons thing is done. And we're like, okay, that the trade happened. Here we go again. I mean, I suppose legal experts probably saw this coming. People who were expecting him to file an agreement saw this coming. I didn't see this coming. I had it from my perspective. I did not see this coming that. The grievance thing, okay, I could see where Ben Simmons would try to get the money back, but this whole plot that Kyle neubeck wrote about that Simmons is because we talked about this. Why would he go to Philly if he's not playing why bring him? Why go through all of that hassle that the plan is for him to go so that when the crowd goes Berserk and gets upset with him, when he files a grievance, he can say, see, look, this is a work environment that I could have never possibly been in. Therefore, it was impossible for me to complete my job. Therefore, I'm owed the money that was fine during the season for me not playing for the 76ers. This is next level stuff and this is a twist that I was not I didn't see this coming Keith. Maybe I should have, but I didn't. Yeah, I mean, I'm still at this point nothing surprises me with this whole situation anymore. And you know, anybody who thought that the trade has been made, it's over. Like, you know, we got a long way to go before this one's going to be resolved because what this will turn into is you were talking $20 million, right? So it's not a small sum of money, even when you've got a 100 million Simmons does, you're not talking a tiny bit. So I think going to happen here is we're going to end up with this will drag out over probably the next 6 months to a year as they'll be all everybody will file their grievances and they'll be all the necessary research phases that go in everything, then they'll be hearings and everything else. What I hope does not happen is that this becomes something that takes Ben Simmons away from the floor at all for Brooklyn because strictly basketball wise, I'm beyond or I need to move on. Like let's go, let's just get this thing moving. But we're going to see where this goes, because yeah, no one's no one is forfeiting $20 million without a fight. It's just, you know, that's not how that works. You're going to put up that fight for it. So it as far as I'm going today. Yeah, I wasn't necessarily expecting that to be the reasoning. But it makes some sense, right? If you think about it, and what they can always do is, if it gets to be too crazy, just leaves, it goes back and sits in the locker room and hangs out there until, you know, the game ends, and then he leaves with his team. So let's see where this goes. My hope is we get past tomorrow. No major thing. You want a boo, you want to kind of what we talked about yesterday right over on Lakers nation about Russell Westbrook. You want to boo you want to yell stuff just keep it above the line and you're fine. Do what you need to do. And then let's move, move on from this and hopefully we see Simmons on the floor in the next 5 to ten days. And off we go. Reading between the lines, this is coming out ahead of time, right? There's probably a reason for that. That's probably the Philly side letting everybody know. This is what he's trying to pull here. Everybody pay attention. What's going on? Do we get some tribute video or something for Ben for a bit image from the 76ers tomorrow? Yeah. I mean, guys who played for teams for like, right? Now. So yeah, we're going to see, I mean, Doc Rivers very, I believe, genuinely, when he said it was like, yeah, I think he does deserve a tribute video. Like he was part of a lot of winning here and some pretty good teams. So yeah, I mean, it's not going to go well if there is one. I mean, that's certainly, you know, I don't think he necessary wants one. Either, I think, if anything, that might be one where you let's hold it in reserve if we need to get the crowd fired up tomorrow night and then we'll play it and get to get them riled up and going. Maybe that's when you drop it in there but yeah, it's just a messy for sure, I think. Hold off on calling Skyler gray. That's not necessarily at this point. We don't need to do that. All right, the warriors, they are working out Tyreke Evans, who already had a workout with the Milwaukee Bucks, trying to work his way back into the NBA, but keep this. This is not easy. I mean, he's been away from the game for three years now. That's a challenge, right? Getting back into the league after being gone for that long, even if you're out for a year, that's not easy to do. I mean, in any sport. And if you're gone from the sport for any length of time, it can be difficult to get back up to speed, particularly when age starts to become a factor here. So I don't know. I don't really see tyrique Evans doesn't necessarily a fit with what the warriors are trying to do, but it's noteworthy that this is a guy who at one point was pretty good in this league. And now he's going around trying to find a new landing spot, the warriors are a team that was at least willing to take a look. Yeah, I think, you know, warriors taking a look at the bucks already worked them out. Recently as well. Not only been out for three years, he's 32. He wasn't really good his last season. In the NBA with the pacers now, maybe that was influenced by, you know, maybe some of the substance abuse that was going on that has kept him out on this suspension. We don't know that, so I don't want to say that's for sure, but maybe that is why his play dipped because it did fall off pretty steeply from the prior season. At a weird point, age 28 to 29 season that's not a point where you would really say, oh, what happened there if it's not injury related or something else? So yeah, I mean, I hope he makes it back. I hope he has his life in order and he makes it back and somebody gets it. The thing that we said this at the time that he was reinstated, if that had only happened a couple months earlier when we were having everybody under the sun was getting COVID call ups, it would have been huge for him, right? Because he might have been able to get one of those hardship ten days come in really show what he could do. He'll kind of like a Lance Stevenson did. And show you, hey, I can still play and then maybe earn his way back to the lead that way. My guess is this is a, hey, let's take a look. Let's see what it looks like. And then teams do, they kind of keep their emergency list just in case, you know, if something happens, he's a guy who's in a situation that he would be playoff eligible. If one of these teams needed Adam, but my guess is this will probably be, he may need to be one of the rare vets that takes the summer league invite from a team and goes to summer league. She was what he can do there, and then maybe gets a training camp invite, maybe. He has to do some G league time. Yo, Michael, that direction. Now it's getting a little late in the year to catch on with a G league team too. Now, because the G league sees it as almost over. It ends about a roughly two to four weeks before. The NBA regular season does. So that's probably why he hasn't gone that direction yet. But yeah, let's keep an eye on this one, but the other thing is the worries don't have a roster spot, and they don't have an easy way to create one. Either they would probably the only easy and I'm putting that in air quotes cut would be Damien Lee, and he's been a guy who's played real minutes for them and had played productive minutes at times for the warriors. So my guess is this was just, hey, let's do a check in and see where things are at. And then if we really have a need later, we'll maybe go down that path. One surprise me if he goes that summer league route. I mean, we saw Kenneth bury. He went to say it was Michael Beasley, too. Was the last time that was playing for the rockets. So maybe we see that. Maybe he.
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"More recently played with Team USA in the World Cup qualifiers. They build that team mostly from GE guys, but there's veterans Isiah Thomas played with that team, a couple times ago and then Joe Johnson recently just played with them as well. So yeah, so it sounds like one that's all wrapped up. He's going to join the Celtics on a two way. We'll see if that's one of those two year two ways or not. Jesus 6 foot 7 four pass him shooting range. He made a monetary it's about 38% of his three pointers on almost ten attempts per game. And the G league, so that's pretty good volume. And that's what Brad Stevens said. They were looking for shooting and shooting with size. What everybody wants is let's find our Duncan Robinson. Mary, let's find a guy who we bring in and we develop them and go from there. And he's kind of got similar ish mold to Robinson where he's again, good size, can really shoot he's a little older of a prospect, like Robinson was. I kept him from getting drafted. So yeah, we'll see if nothing else this is a two way spot for the rest of the year. And you kind of go from there, but then they've got two guys on ten days, so the Celtics still kind of have three standard open roster spots to see, by the way, tomorrow. March 1st is the bio deadline. So what that means is not to add players you can add players all the way up to the end of the season. But tomorrow at 5 p.m. eastern if guys aren't waived by then, then they're not eligible for the playoffs. So anybody who's going to take a bio. It's going to happen by tomorrow. And there's doesn't seem like we're going to get much more on that front. Been kind of a dud of a biomarker this year, hasn't it? I think guys are not wanting to give up money. I think that's the one thing, which if you think about it right after a couple uncertain seasons, probably makes some sense to hang on to your money, a lot of these guys still a lot of that money went into escrow accounts and those kind of things. And then I think the second thing is I think teams are not putting their faith in we got to do the biomarker because it's going to work for us with that. So yeah, I think we're in a position where just, you know, it is what it is, we'll see. I mean, at this point, it looks like we're on drug. Probably the biggest bio guy, and we'll see where that goes. It looked okay. In his first game with Brooklyn the other day. So let's see how this all turns out. All right, well, I think that wraps things up for today. Keith, you can go and try to rest your sunburn. School pickup with the air conditioning blasting on me. I'm sure I'll be a sight to behold. All right, well, feel better. In front of my show, we're gonna get to watch Keith throughout the week as his son burned heels up. He'll turn different shades and all that. So then appeals and everything else will look like a mess. Just another reason to tune in. To the NBA front on the show. But we do appreciate everybody. We appreciate all of you. Make sure you do subscribe to the NBA front office.
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Those warriors teams. Like, how ridiculous it is. Month and a half to go, and these teams are three games away from, you know, what the warriors did. You'll recognize. That's really unbelievable. How many and this is kind of an aside. How many legitimate answers do you think there are to the question right now who's winning this year's NBA championship? Yeah, that's a great question. You don't have to go too hard to probably get to 8 teams that I feel like could actually want to, which is not that's not the norm. And that's my point. That's my point. You think about that warrior season, it was like, okay, it's going to be the warriors and if it's not the warriors. It's going to be the cast. You've got a couple other teams. That's it. There's so many teams where I'm looking at the standings right now and I'm like, it wouldn't shock me if it was them. But it wouldn't shock me if it was this team. There's so many different possibilities, which, as you referenced earlier, could be setting us up for a really exciting playoffs this year. Just to make sure. Speaking of teams that nobody wants to see come playoff time though, Paul George now. Making progress. Now, the clippers were still playing coy in terms of an actual return date. Ty lue said he doesn't know exactly when he's going to return, still needs more time. So we don't we can't even say he's going to be back this season. But all we know is that they did imaging recently and showed that he is indeed making progress, which that's great news. I don't know if it gets him back this season, but if he suddenly comes back, I think the clippers are going to be that much more dangerous, obviously, can play off time. Yeah, and to add to that for all that it went quiet, we still have not been told anything on Kauai with certainty yet either. So that is, that's one of where you kind of start looking and you're like, huh. Where could this go? I still think you're getting down to if they're not. Looking like they're going to be back within the next two or three weeks. It's probably at that point. You say, we're going to run with what we have. There's no reason to try to reintegrate these guys. Because again, you need some time to get out there, be on the court if you want to get into playoff games. But they're playing pretty good. Right, they're right there with Minnesota for that 7 8 spot. They've created a little bit of distance now in the Lakers. On both of them. So yeah, let's see where that goes. With them. But yeah, I mean, if you could get even one of those two guys back, yeah, that turns into all of a sudden, you know, if you're the son's warriors grizzly, you're like, man, we had these great seasons, and it's Denver. Clippers, Dallas. Sitting on that other side. That's like, really? I get a deal with this now. That's feels almost like, man. Maybe next year. We don't push so hard. Right. And I think we should mention that the clippers, they've done this before with injuries. We saw it last year in the playoffs where they were sort of not being very forthcoming..
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Yep. Yeah, my guess is, yeah, give it a couple weeks. Let's see where we're at as a team. And a few more weeks too. Deal, let's see. And if we decide, you know what? He can't play. And when we go, let's bail out the I think the, you know, I hesitate to call it a problem, but I don't know that they're even gonna fall out of the play in. Even without George and Kauai unless they really do a full scale sell off and are openly taking games. We're still afforded. They're still four and a half games up. That's exactly it. They have no reason to completely bottom this out. Unless you really can get great assets back then you say, hey sunk cost, we get all these awesome picks and players and all this stuff to rebuild around. Paul George and Kauai. But my guess is, you kind of say, this is a lost season. We write it off. Maybe we see Kauai do kind of a oddly enough Paul George did a few years ago with the pacers after he broke his leg, where he came back. Remember with about 6 to ten games to play. He played in a few games more just, hey, let's get that confidence built up, feeling good, going into the off season. Maybe that's what they do with Kawhi. I don't know, I don't know that he needs that or not because I wasn't that same kind of injury. But yeah, let's keep an eye on the clippers as we move move things forward here for sure because they've got all sorts of trade stuff they can do. And.
"paul george" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"We're not that far behind them. And we've still got Joel embiid who's quite frankly playing at an MVP level. He's just not getting the pub because the team's record isn't very good because he hasn't had a ton of help. But I do think that's one where if you're the fear of the sixers, you say nah, we'll get in and then we'll worry about passing them up later in the standings or we'll if we run into them and they have home court advantage, we're not going to exactly concern ourselves too much with that. All right. Well, definitely a team to keep an eye on the Cleveland Cavaliers. We'll see if they can make a deal for Ben Simmons as we inch closer to the trade deadline. You know that the urgency is only going to grow. Will Ben Simmons be on the move soon. We'll just have to wait to find out. We do need to get into the clippers, though. Paul George. Out three to four weeks with a torn UCL and his elbow. That's that's not good for a clippers team that's already missing Kawhi Leonard. Now fortunately we've talked about this, the Western Conference has been considerably more forgiving than it has in years past, but still tough blow for the clippers to be out Paul George. You look like they just lost to Denver. I believe it was last night. And that's a game that where you look at it and you say, okay, well, Paul George there, that's probably a win on their record. So I think they are going to drop some games now without Paul George, but again, the west has been more forgiving. So what this means for the standings, they might still be able to tread water. Yeah, they probably going to be able to hang in clearly the Western Conference as warrior sons at the top. Yep, and you have the jazz kind of in a third spot, putting a tear by themselves. They're very close to the warrior sons here. So those three. And then Memphis has kind of set themselves aside because played really well without John morant. Now that he's back, he looks like he's getting going a little bit. They're just kind of starting the front end of what's likely probably going to end up being multiple players out with COVID because it's just how this has gone. Nobody has gotten through one of these with one or two guys out. It's ended up being multiple players on just about every team. So we'll see where that goes. Then it's this whole big bucket of teams that are all kind of within a game or two of each other. And that's the clippers, nuggets, Lakers, mavericks, Timberwolves, and spurs. I guess we can put in there trailblazers if we want to. But definitely down to Minnesota. They're all within a game or so of each other. So yeah, I think it is going to a lot of this is going to be what happens. When these teams start getting players back, the Lakers, the Mavs and the Timberwolves, are they going to be able to push the standings past the clippers? Does this change anything for the clippers? Do you look at it all and say, you know, maybe we could move a couple of these other veteran pieces out and see what it looks like. I've also one other thing I'll say on the Paul George injury. There was some stuff floating around the Internet that three to four weeks is a optimistic. Yes..
"paul george" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"There you go. Speaking of great music, project. All right, taping this. It's a little past noon Pacific time on Thursday. So before the games tonight, Jonathan sharks is here from the wringer. We're gonna talk a bunch of stuff. We're gonna start with Paul George. I think we have both noticed the Paul George thing that's happened in this year. It's only ten games, but if you think in 2018 when he made first team owned bay, it was 28 8 four. 44%, 39% 86% with the percentages. He's basically there this year with the Clippers 27 8 5 relatively close percentages. What's interesting is this is a top 6 playoff team charts. Here are their next four best players. And this might be debatable. This is just what I wrote down. Reggie Jackson is clearly their number two. But tomb might have the case for number three because of the two way stuff. And then fourth place is the tie between Luke canard and Terence man. I would say. And somehow Paul George has lifted these guys and has gone to a level that we saw in the playoffs last year that we've seen from him in the past, to me he's one of the 6 best guys in the league right now, plus LeBron, when LeBron comes back. What are you watching? What are you seeing? I think it's funny you mentioned we were talking about this too. It all goes back to it's easy to forget sometimes how hard it is to be the number two on a team. It takes a lot of sacrifice. When Paul George is playing with Kauai, he can not be the Paul George we're seeing now. He's movies off the ball a lot more. He's playing off someone else. It's just not his team. When it's your team, it's just, you get into your stuff a little easier. Paul George right now, he can go into his whole bag. He can get to the post-ops, pick and roll, spot ups, pull ups. When Kawhi is out there, Kawhi is the man, he's playing off quite a lot of the game. And maybe he only gets like, you know, 12 minutes when Kawhi is out. And now it's my turn to run the team. Hard to get into a rhythm. Whereas now, Paul George is a slow start to the game. He knows, okay, I'll still get like 12 more shots. I have time to get back to what I do. And now I think and you saw last year in the playoffs, it's the most Kawhi went off, went down all of a sudden Paul George went back up. And it's just a good reminder of how much role impacts even the best players. Yeah, it's funny because it ties into a situation that's happened with the Celtics right now with Tatum and brown. For the first time, it's really been the whole season, the Celtic fans are kind of looking at each other going. Does this make sense? Do these two guys bring the best out of each other? Should we trade one of them? And it's not like we have to trade one of them, but it's a conversation. And it's not the question of do these two guys make sense together. To me, it's what you just laid out. Does the situation make sense really for jaylen Brown? Is he over qualified to be in that Robin spot? And this is what we've seen Paul George kind of vacillate where we saw in Indiana, he was carrying them. He didn't know if he had the personality to be anything more than the best guy on a 45 win team. Goes to OKC same thing, not a ton of playoff success, but we kind of pigeonholed him as he's a little overqualified to be the second banana, but not quite good enough to be the main guy. I thought in the playoffs last year, he shed that at least for me. And the only reason that they lost the sons, I think was just they were so worn down. To do what they did, they were limited roster anyway. I think he just wore down a little and they didn't have the horses. But I look big picture. He's doing stuff as the focal point of an offense. And as somebody who's creating and picking his spots and really does make other guys better and this is like, this is what I want from Tatum, right? Selfishly. This is where I want Tatum to get to where two, three years from now. He's somebody that can feel out of game, pick his spots, take good shots, kind of no one to ease back and take over and things like that. Paul George is there, and to me, he's clearly a first team on VA guy through ten games. Yeah, that's what we were talking about the other day is because it's the versatility of his game. It's that he could impact the game in so many ways. And then you go back to the fact that, oh yeah, he's 6 foot 8. And then there's so many games where like against the grizzlies of the blazers, they're putting 6 three guys on them. It's like, oh yeah, I can just score over those guys at will. And then I can make the double team off the pass. I passed the double team my name. And he's a very versatile game. And I think the Celtics thing is a great. And here's the difference, right? When Paul George coast to the clippers, he has already been the man somewhere else. He's like, I've lived that life. I've had my chance as the guy in a much fun as it is. I can accept, I can look at the fact that Kawhi Leonard is a two time Finals MVP. Okay. I can respect the reality that Kawhi is better than me. Whereas I don't think jaylen Brown is like, oh my God, Jason Tatum is the best player ever. I've got to get behind him. Jalen brown's a young guy who's coming up himself. He's like, I've made an all star team. We want these kinds of models together three years ago. We're the same guy. I'm not necessarily going to stand behind you because I got to see who I can be as my own personal player. And I don't think it's like him being selfish really. It's just kind of he's a young guy. If he was like 28, maybe it'd be different. He's 23. Right. And Paul George, when he was 23, Jalen brown's age now. That was 2014 the pacers. That was when the second year when they went toe to toe with LeBron and waiting those guys. And really had established himself as the next up and coming two way forward after LeBron and.
Shannon Sharp: Kawhi Leonard Will Not Win a Championship for Clippers
"We have some big clippers news and even though there's no timetable set for his return we now know will be sticking around in la. Yesterday quiet agreed with the clippers to a four year deal. They player option. That is worth over. One hundred seventy six million according to ward so shannon will. He lead the clippers to championship. During this contrast this up look at it like this. Break it down like this. We do know that there's a likelihood that he's gonna miss some of the season this year. You're going to be some or is it going to be all. He missed fifteen games with thirty. Gave me say you know what guys. I'm gonna make sure totally healthy because this is what we know about learning history. He does not play hurt. So i'm gonna say this year. I'm gonna wash it up. He played on even though. I think there's a fifty fifty chance. He does play but he missed some games. You better hope. He doesn't play this year art. I wanted to play. I wouldn't i wouldn't play. It doesn't matter to me He we don't worry about we. Don't worry about the other squad but anyway so that's one year so he has two years left. Because the fourth option basically skip. That's an insurance policy. In case the need do give out on it. Because we know his history. He's had some issues over the last several years. That's called the time. I was gonna say they don't scale because i don't believe the nets. I don't believe we are walking out. Don't believe the lakers. I don't believe some of these other teams have some of the issues that they have now. When you signed when you have two guys on deals paul george and aqua leonard it becomes very difficult for you to fill out your roster with significant players basically. You're getting guys who mid level exceptions you guys taking the vet minimum.
"paul george" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"Right a real a real a real brother presents been for me on doug towns. I've been there right definitely. I'm going to sing. So can you share a little bit of what he yelled in your ear and you yell back in in his ear while you were embracing last night. First thing he said was the first thing he said was like you deserted. You gotta be okay. Been with women from day one and then on economic kept repeating the same thing. You deserve this. You deserve this while and then what happened after the game. Did you go somewhere with the family to celebrate. No actually i had shoot video digital video set. Yeah way tell you just watch that man put it work that just because he put it worked. I don't mean stop. I gotta i gotta go. Put him over motivated wait. I believe this. Means everything to chris when you play sixteen years and you're as accomplished as years and never to ever have gotten a bite let alone eating a by of the i mean now. He has the fruit in his hand. It's up to him to win. Four games actually buy that fruit now. He gets to see mitt. His name is kind of like you knew what you can do. You just needed that opportunity. He got what a team that has. Some young guy that just needed some direction just needed some leadership. They got the right coaching mighty. We've the audrey eyton is arriving. Big man devon booker is an assassin. He's a bucket. Gator and now chris paul with that leadership the going to the nba finals. What do you think this moment means to him right now and winning a championship. What would that mean to chris. Got thank bleed. You skip in as and everybody watching. No that will mean more than the world's bursts present. Thank you all other things we keep we keep hearing about. You know about the the asterix who's heard and who's not. I know one person who does not mean a thing to in a sleepy so you did also go to phoenix for game five. Yeah what what was the mood. Like at the end of that game among the sons fans and i assume you talked to chris after that game also right. Yeah so mood. The mood amongst the fans were they. Will you know. There's this great people as if they were so. There was so happy that the that the team was just what they are you know and they also they also very confident. They confident like the team. And so they kinda knows it. Everybody was okay like like no no panic or that that guy number twelve say are elliott that we were talking during the break. And when you're in phoenix. You certain gentlemen that play for the opposing team. That happened shove ep. Three the back. He's struggled with conversation. Would you desire. Can you share about what he was talking about. Coincidentally i had a nice little orange of buttoned-down just wanted to make sure that you make like man you ruined got the orange on all out like Lafley chopper have been my dog. Though pat him he bayrock since day. One have been records. Are you surprised that he did that to chris at the time at the break that he shoved him in the back like he did. I was salvi. Surprised that surprised at the At the severity of what he did right surprised that him during i mean what do you do now is never surprising but at the i mean going that far yeah. So what was chris's mood. Like in the phoenix locker room after that game. Five home loss coming back to staples for game six on these words real short and quick was a eater. Beat oh i need you to beat out in a a needed to be taken it. That's what it was. We need you to beat it to relate that to me 'cause they're not gonna got about forty cases. Do we take it. I got on the wayne. You also told me that after the game. Three loss at staples. Obviously they came down to this clippers down. Oh to but clippers won game three and you told me kris told you right after the game. We're going to win it in six right. And he was dead on the money. Yeah yeah we we win. We went to thank and sakes layoff. Master p slow fix now. You know they don't matter the about if it's so wayne's speaking of playoff t- what did you see through this series from paul george as i apologize to me. I saw josh. Go back to that very disciplined. That discipline player that that. Can you know that can get everything you on out when he was in indiana. That's what i saw that. The podge i saw that this this especially one sound got tough. He turns you know back then. I thought that back then when he was wearing danny just so disciplined type of guy that guy scored touch on using these analogies punks courtside. When celebrate it. Was that kind of guy. You know what i mean and that's retarded so again not so much last night. Though the fact that they're the different we we. We got a lot of young rapper. They coming up and they say well he he that one but they lisi do with come into studio. I need you come in the studio. And his this you show up and you pay five with the expectation they already know would be baby. Get enough as they renew how you do it so now. The poll doors. At the what he did in phoenix. We need threat. Can you do that again. And he came on feature down now. We got to put on a feature. I mean i don't even do it again. If you're not going to better than last wayne we are happy for you. We're happy for chris. Paul moment to see. I know they're not done but i can't believe undisputed before i ask you about lebron. The lakers have wanted this year. Ever they were healthy. Don't go anywhere more with to the well. The sounds run to the final started by beating lebron eighty in the first round but those two superstars played through injuries throughout the whole season. Many people have pointed to the quick turnaround from last year's finals. As the main reason these lakers never got into a rhythm so instead we were left with a bunch of what ifs low still with us. So wayne i start with you. If lebron eighty had been healthy with the lakers have won it all again. Virginia on sleet on. Have to say yes. Yes i think i ride. No that on our probably be right now. If lebron was still burning nate they was held was helping out by right now. Be explaining to chris. how he needs to really try to get to the lake or something because i will be available bit another another loss season for them but now with now iraq good timeout. How would the lakers healthy have gotten past the clippers healthy easy not easy with client. Paul george you can't give exact. Yes what. I'm saying exactly talking about that team that team. Yeah the team. That just went on the run. That should have finished finals championship. You did better saying with marris. Senior in reggie jackson. Yeah right. Those guys jot the lights out last night. Those those are the stars you have to understand. There's something called expectations and you got the second guy that you mentioned behind. Why doesn't do well when he has. Those expectations will timeout. How does the lagaan james. Now it'd be like thirty nine or is he four or about as ever happen to like a twenty five twenty five and thirty seven. Yeah okay. I want you to have that same mutagenic to skill. We'll we'll.
"paul george" Discussed on Speak For Yourself
"Racist at all right. We just jumped to categorize things as racists. Even if phil jackson would have had coach take the last shot. Because that still wouldn't have been racist. No you know what i'm saying like we're not being racist in that moment. So i think that scottie pippen. He shouldn't have drank the kool aid if you will like. He was tiptoeing around something. He got asked a question that even had he really thought about it. I don't know that yes would have been his answer at least not with that train of thought and at least not with that lot. Well you gotta understand. Let's go circle back. Full boomer rank because scottie pippen has learned from michael jordan from his ex wife that attention is the new currency. And it's an inflation right now. So is getting value more so than ever and it doesn't have to have the the premise and the substance that it wants us to have like it used to be a time where people would say. Mind your own business. And that was currency. Those who stay focused in the narrow lane just ran around the track staying and they lay. We're actually rewarded. But now you're taught that is rewarding to get out of your lane at least step on it clout chase pull others take shot at others as seeing. Collateral damage allows you to fail. Forward scottie pippen guests here. He's already seen people the closest people to him. I would imagine in your professional love and life michael jordan. And then your real world your ex-wife wife at the time and everybody's not only are departing but they're breaking code acho you know i'm co host killer and ain't got another do what i've done for anybody. They all will win and most of them have not. All of them went off to greener pastures. But i never ever. We'll talk about them in a negative light. I would tell you my truce. But i would never break our codes because i protect the guilty is crazy that scottie pippen's look like michael jordan like you didn't protect our relationship. He looked at his ex wife. Like you're not gonna protect our relationship and this is how you're going gonna play it. So i think when he goes the dan. Patrick he's still scottie. Pippen good at heart. But then dan vet sold them that trampoline ratios over there. Still somewhere in suburban coming up. We're back jones. Looked better cam newton. This offseason we'll tell you if we're confident cam wins the starting job. That's next. speak for yourself saturday. The last two world series champs coming as a dodger lawyers take on the national plus. The red sox the adult a saturday seven eastern only on fox check local listings for the game in your area and bill ballots cast said this all season. That cam newton is the patriots starter. Over four se mag john who mad jaws got more reps on a number of occasions and up to the final day of minicamp. Look better cam. That's what they're saying. An anonymous patriot even said a rookie quarterback the game the way offense coordinator josh mcdaniels season. Alright anonymous so are you. Confident cam wins the starting job over. Who mag john no sir. I don't think cam newton will win the starting job over mack jones. Here's what we have to do. Y'all sometimes it's tough on his show for cell and i to remove our biases but remove our affiliations. If you will check in over here it is it. Is you love clippers. Lent chargers and bills hard move. Our affiliate stations are feelings. Here's what i'm gonna do for the sega do around. I'm going to make some players some statistics faceless and nameless really say all right. Let's do it already. Two out of thirty four first round quarterback since two thousand and ten started a game their rookie season ninety four percent of round quarterback since two thousand and ten started a game their rookie season and individuals. There was the starting quarterback last year gave his backup four opportunities to take his job gave his backup opportunities to take his job. Thirty two out of thirty four quarterback since two thousand and ten first round picks started a game the rookie season now matt jones. Now debris beating bring a face to is a first round quarterback and mack jones would be the backup quarterback to cam newton if cam newton allowed his backup for opportunities to take his job last year and this year cam newton's backup is a first round. Pick who already has a ninety five percent chance of starting this year then so it's abundantly clear that cam newton will vary vary very much so unlikely wendy starting job and even if he does i doubt he will keep the starting job faceless nameless stats and facts. Okay your best way of being objective after that paul george. A clipper rant that you went on to wasn't as objective respect. What you just said. You're right there is a six percent chance. This is ninety four over here over here. Six percent chance to keep cam newton in this position but yes i'm confident he will win the starting job. One the guys who's making the decision already said he's the star so that kinda helps forget. Tv cameras just we walk out on the field up. We both play linebacker. This is me now. i'm to fifty. So yeah i can play linebacker angle. Cover everybody. But i'm there we walk out to me while you're starting how you feel sick. Okay because it'd be sick. 'cause you're jones and guess what that's what he said that cam newton. He started now all that has to happen or two things. You got to be better to me. What's going to be tough. It's not impossible because perception is reality. Wanna coast already perceives you as the starter respecting fully what you do. Because i've been a backup before balling before the starter and i'm like dog. I'm over here. Beating him yeah. But there's more to the equation than just what you see to. I gotta go backwards. You're betting on that. One cams going backwards. I can give you some of that based off a year one but remind you year. One bella check system in new england. Either you sit or you suck. Sipa was that. And i got name at the name that has lived up to that same billing in new england i think bill belichick loves to remind new players young players that it ain't all sweet up here. This new england clam chowder culture. Ain't sweet bra. You're going have to taste date on. Made a mini a good to great players realized. Or maybe i don't cut it up there in new england so mack jones is the future. Therefore he's not the president cam. Newton was gonna take the lumps. Food is team partly because they're built to run the football cam. Newton is gonna look worse than practice the most quarterbacks because what his greatest attribute at least in ballots is running the football. And what thing you can't do in practice is running quarterback or touch that running quarterback so we don't even understand when plays breakdown cam. Newton takes off for the first when plays breakdown he extended throws that password test them. You don't get that complexion practice so mag joe's is going to live better because cam. Newton got hurt minicamp cam. Newton can't run and minnie and his greatest attributes are being highlighted but with coach. Already pointed out that you good look trying to prove him wrong. Well let me start here. Okay let's start doing words in two thousand twenty one. We know that they mean nothing. Reason sale that you always bring up. I'm super single. Still not sure what. The super prefix main reason. You always bring up that. I am super single cell rates. I got trust issues. You'd think we don't feel like you breaking new trust issues with the words and i got trust with the world. Dating relationships. Don't mean nothing. 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USA Basketball Announces 2021 Olympic Team Roster
"Team. Usa officials meanwhile announced their men's basketball roster for tokyo and it's led by two time finals. Mvp kevin durant. The us led by head coach. Gregg popovich looking for its fourth consecutive gold. In olympic play the official roster has been released and again. We've got to rant on there. We've got devontae booker on there. We got chris. Middleton damian lillard jason tatum again looking for a fourth consecutive gold medal at these games
Gritty Clippers stave off elimination, beat Suns 116-102
"Paul George had a playoff career high forty one points including twenty in the third quarter the clippers staved off elimination and defeated the sons one sixteen one or two George added thirteen rebounds and six assists and he says there was a game they just had to have thriving this moment on we come together even more so in these moments Marcus Morris added twenty two for the clippers Devin Booker led the Suns with thirty one points the series now moves to Los Angeles Phoenix still hold the three game to two advantage George terror Phoenix
Suns Outlast Clippers 84-80, Take 3-1 Lead in West Finals
"The sun's head home with a three one series lead after beating the clippers in game four eighty four to eighty Chris Paul sealed it with five late free throws three wins on the series okay right now we do we can really do want to get one of these now we got to stay focused on you ready to go back to our crown Devin Booker scored twenty five points before fouling out the Andrea Ayton had nineteen with twenty two rebounds the clippers got twenty three points from Paul George but LA made only five of thirty one from three point land Phoenix is now a win away from reaching their first NBA finals since nineteen ninety three I'm mark Myers
George Leads Clippers Over Paul and Suns, 106-92 in Game 3
"The clippers are within two games to one of Phoenix after Paul George scored twenty seven points in there one oh six ninety two win over the sons George also had fifteen rebounds and eight assists to help L. A. win without Kawhi Leonard who remained out with a sprained knee Reggie Jackson added twenty three points for the clippers who took control with the biggest run of the game at twenty one three sport that left him leading seventy one fifty six in the third Suns guard Chris Paul made his series debut after coming out of curve eight nineteen protocol finishing with fifteen points and twelve assists game four is Saturday in Los Angeles on the ferry
Paul George's Missed Free Throws Could Haunt Him and the Clippers
"Go back to the The clippers and last night's loss so hard for the sons. And i'm trying not to be too hard on him because i'm sure if you're a clippers fan Both of you are really upset to dan. Upset you and you know. We got to respect what they've done. I'm just not pulling formula win. Paul george and those two free throws if he makes those two free throws the alleyoop to andrei deondraye eight and means nothing. If you'd have made those two three throws then an island would have been like. Do not let him shoot a three here right. Exactly just guard against the three an easy yup or follow. Follow put on the line. Don't let devon booker or wanted s you to suit a three if they were up three with twelve seconds to go now. We actually have paul george talking. After last night's game about missing those two free throws put me position to extend league Always commented at the free throw line. i've always been very successful in question moments at the free. Throw line Tonight successful what can you say opposite of to the greatest of them say but it but in a critical playoff game in the western conference finals is different from a regular season game where you brick too.
Ayton Soars for Last Second Alley-Oop, Suns Beat Clippers
"Deandre Ayton scored on an alley oop pass from Trey Crowder at seven tenths of a second left to lift the sun show one oh four one of three win over the clippers eight and finished with twenty four points and fourteen rebounds Cameron Payne a career high twenty nine in place of Chris Paul Devin Booker twenty points despite a nose injury Paul George who missed two free throws down the stretch let L. A. with twenty six towards Khattar Phoenix
Booker Gets First Triple-Double, Suns Beat Clippers 120-114
"Devin Booker had forty points thirteen rebounds and eleven assists for his first career triple double as the sun's earned their seventh consecutive win one twenty one fourteen over the clippers the triple double is a system that's you know my teammates making them pay for you know running in Dublin you know seeing different types of defenses bunker shot fifteen of twenty nine from the field against an LA team playing thirty six hours after advancing deandre Ayton had twenty points and nine rebounds for the sons Paul George pumped in thirty four points for the clippers Suns guard Chris Paul sat out because of covert nineteen health and safety protocols clippers star Kawhi Leonard missed his third straight game because of a sprained right knee game two is Tuesday in Phoenix I'm Dave Ferrie
Mann Scores Career-High 39, Clippers Eliminate Jazz 131-119
"I'm incredible second half rally by the clippers has then headed to the conference finals for the first time ever beating the jazz one thirty one one nineteen in a series clinching game six with a barrage of three pointers LA came from twenty five points down Terrence Mann brought the clips back to life scoring twenty in the third quarter alone and ending with a career high thirty nine I just had a lot to you and do what I did you do leave me open to shoot open shots out of willow way back in the game Paul George had twenty eight you felt that the monkey off of the clippers back in terms of you know get out of the second round LA made twenty of thirty nine from three point land Utah got thirty nine points from Donovan Mitchell I am Markt Myers
Clippers Beat Jazz 119-111 to Take Series Lead
"The clippers have taken a three games to two lead in the Western Conference semifinals by earning their third straight win over the jazz one nineteen one eleven Paul George carried the load with thirty seven points and sixteen rebounds while Los Angeles played without forward Kawhi Leonard because of a knee injury suffered in game four Marcus Morris scored twenty five points and Reggie Jackson added twenty two for the clippers who shot fifty one percent from the field the jazz made a team record ten three pointers in the first quarter but led by just one at the end of the period boy am Bogdanovich had nine treys in thirty two points for Utah I'm Dave Ferrie
Leonard, George Each Score 31, Clippers Tie Series With Jazz
"The clippers were able to square up their playoff series with the jazz by taking game four one eighteen to one oh four why Leonard and Paul George each scored thirty one points P. G. says Kawhi is taking his game to a new level it's playoff basketball you know this movie is because when the time and so on you see it all around his approach is body language everything is to you know be great Marcus Morris senior added twenty four points Utah got thirty seven from Donovan Mitchell but now it's a best of three going back to Salt Lake for game five I am mark Myers
Leonard, George Help Clippers Beat Jazz, Cut Deficit to 2-1
"The Los Angeles Clippers grabbed an important win in their second round playoff series against the Utah Jazz with a one thirty two one oh six victory the clippers cut Utah's best of seven series lead to two games to one hitting fifty six percent of their field goal attempts quite Leonard led the clippers with thirty four points and twelve rebounds the biggest thing is that we made shots and open looks leave me you know you wanna come down tonight we do not Paul George added thirty one points including thirteen in the second quarter as Los Angeles took a fifteen point lead into the half Reggie Jackson Nicole but to meet score seventy points apiece for the clippers Donovan Mitchell led the jazz with thirty points game seven a set for Los Angeles on Monday I'm Jim Bernard
Donovan Mitchell Scores 45, Rallies Jazz Past the Clippers
"The jazz open their Western Conference semifinal series by getting forty five points from Donovan Mitchell in a one twelve one oh nine win over the clippers Mitchell poured in thirty two points in the second half to rally the jazz from a fourteen point deficit Jordan Clarkson boy on Bogdanovich chipped in eighteen points apiece with Clarkson and Mitchell combining for twelve three pointers Utah took the lead for good on the twenty one nine run bookended by three pointers from Bogdanovich Kawhi Leonard scored twenty three points to lead Los Angeles while Paul George chipped in twenty with eleven rebounds game two is Thursday in Salt Lake City I'm Dave Ferrie
Home Sweet Home: Clippers Beat Mavs 126-111 to Win Series
"The clippers have advanced to the Western Conference semifinals with the one twenty six one fifteen win over the Mavericks in game seven it was the first series in NBA history in which the road team won the first six games Kawhi Leonard scored twenty eight points we showed character we showed poise and we went down to wall going on a roll in the in game three you know it's about to get a season obviously goddesses next round Paul George added twenty two points ten assists and six rebounds for the clippers whose backups outscore the Dallas reserves twenty seven six look at dodges had forty six points fourteen assists and seven rebounds to lead the fifth seeded maps who have yet to win a playoff series since capturing the NBA championship in twenty eleven I'm Dave Ferrie
"paul george" Discussed on Warriors Off-Court
"Hey We will we will facilitate a sign and trade for eric bledsoe. Because i don't think that the pelicans have any interest in keeping eric bledsoe around. It's an expensive contract wasn't great fit. He had a terrible year for them. i think theoretically blood so it'd be a good fit for the words are looking for. But only if he doesn't suck the way he sucked last year and That's not a guarantee he's of gotten worse every single season as he's gotten older so i think of the warriors wanted to try to facilitate training get bledsoe back. They probably could. I don't know that the warriors are all that interested in. Eric bledsoe using about other names. Like would minnesota be interested in kelly oubre way. Let's just keep trading with minnesota. Every year like would be interested in kelly oubre ricky rubio. You know maybe. That's something with it with anthony edwards and danville russell. There is your back court. If you don't have room for rubio the way that you thought after the warriors have a need for playmaking like a stated need for playmaking kelly oubre ruling on the fact that you were hoping he would be. Maybe that's something that they could explore But that's probably the best that they can do real Probably realistically if they are able to execute science trade which is not as easy as everybody keeps making it sound like in your twitter comments in mind He's unrestricted free agent. It's ultimately up to kelly oubre and good luck trying to read what kelly oubre so it's not that easy but if it were to happen i think best case scenario was he goes to a team that wants to maintain some cap space or doesn't have the cap space is interested in a guy like kelly oubre And the warriors just create a trade exception that they can use down the line. I agree with you I think i think a trade exception would be a win for this team. I mean we saw in getting turning water into wine in terms of A really crappy situation with with klay going down for the season. They're able to parlay that trade exception into you. Know someone like uber that was that was somewhat of a coup and so getting another trade exception can can just give the warriors more flexibility and at the end of the day. That's bob myers. Number one job is to give stockpile assets. Give them options. Give them flexibility so that they can be opportunistic when opportunities arise The next question you you briefly touched upon this earlier but this is from at dilkusha ramana. What if pg three aka paul. George was available. This offseason is it a good idea to go after him. If yes who are the players the warriors will give up now. I know you talked about this. With i believe bram hill's men on your podcast Bram from worse huddle was on his podcast A week ago and he floated the paul george possibility and at that time. It was the first time i heard. This is a possibility. And at the time i at a hard time kind of figuring out what my opinions were on it It's a good. I think of the big names that have been floated out. There is out there to me. It's the most realistic. The is the one that makes the most sense for both teams If you're looking at the potential package the words of put together to try to get him..
"paul george" Discussed on Warriors Off-Court
"If you're a winning team or team at least with a winning reputation like the warriors have An and there's a clear opportunity for kelly olynyk to play I think you could get him at that I and it's funny that you meant. What are the sexy names and the first thing you said. Is kelly olynyk. I don't when you say sexy. I don the first person i think of is not kelanic. Wasn't that's that's that's exactly it right. I will try. I will try to give people something that they want. And one name. I would be monitoring as marcus saul. Who the warriors were in the running for last offseason. He ultimately obviously decided to sign up. The lakers has not been happy with his role in in los angeles. I know he's under contract for next year. But it's for a modest like two and a half million dollars or something like that. The warriors could work out a trade. If marcus says hey get me out of here i wanna go to golden state. That was the other team. I wanted to play for Markelle salt lake. It's not impossible for the warriors to acquire him via trade. So maybe that's an in that they could look for and what kind of solve the things that looking for right all the reasons we talked about mark great for last year. He can't space the floor. He is a playmaker at the center position. Defensively at he isn't what he wants was not even close. He's actually kind of negative at that end at some time sometimes. Now probably can't even play for you every night but could be a useful player off the bench. Yeah and feels like that needs to happen just because every single summer feels like that. I've been on the beat. The we've talked about marcus saw as a potential possibility And i know the warriors like him a lot. I know drones a big fan You know but if it was between him and olympic. I would go atlantic right now. Your better player right now. Well of more my conversation with less gobert right after the break this episode is brought to you by the nba witness mind-bending competition on the biggest stage between the best players in the world. A place where legends are made. It's impossible jumps. That seemed to freeze in mid air and spectaculars. Feels that you didn't see coming. It's that one play that lasts seconds that you will talk about for the rest of your life and let's face it. It's the unpredictability of at all. Never knowing when the next big moment will happen. Huge wins and crushed dreams. It's the drama of it all. You just can't make this stuff up that's the nba. that's game the nba playoffs are happening. Right now don't miss all the action..
"paul george" Discussed on Warriors Off-Court
"Paul george strait's west. Thank you so much for joining we back on the podcast We're we're here in full on offseason mode. I think a little bit earlier than we both anticipated. I think we both assumed we'd still be covering a playoff series right now. Probably utah maybe a four-game loss. Maybe a five game. I i know the way the grizzlies have put up a fight. A lot of people think the warriors would've made that interesting. I'm still not convinced but Here we are. It's it's june first and we've already been an offseason mode Week now How's how's the offseason treating you. Man are you. Are you getting a little rest are you. Are you get a breather Sort of i took all of last week off which was nice As soon as those exit interviews were done with bob. Myers and steve kerr. This is the first working since then But i did use that opportunity to exhaust myself physically with a fun little kayaking trip. So I feel like. I need a vacation. After that i turned thirty in april and i didn't realize that my body would do this so i just. I haven't worked in almost a week but that kayaking driven i'm done. I don't feel like i can work again this week. So you're lucky you got me. Today is sometimes sometimes like the the fun trips and stuff are more exhausting than just like working. I mean i. I had a pretty packed memorial day. We can too. And i'm exhausted. And now i have a pretty full work week and i'm like oh yeah i gotta do that too but No one wants to hear complaining. I put out the call on for wars mailbag questions. And i just so. Our readers and listeners are aware i will not be doing a weekly whereas mailbag analyses. And like i did Throughout the season. But i will have occasional podcast that they get into Bad questions and a lot of these questions were asking for specific names that the warriors go after You know targets Which is are all completely understandable questions and questions that i think really play to your strengths..