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Plants that add color indoors.

Your Gardening Questions

03:59 min | 1 year ago

Plants that add color indoors.

"Hi this is Mark News from plan. Talk Radio thanks for subscribing and listening to our podcast. You're gardening questions from plan. Talk Radio to help. Keep this podcast free for you. We're we're partnering with Stoke Seeds. Preplanned your indoor seed starting program with the help of the all new stokes website now mobile and tablet friendly. The new website is a brand new gardening experience variance offers better interactivity and higher quality imagery. But what hasn't changed is the stokes website is still the complete resource center with valuable information on seed starting adding planting and harvesting all the gardening accessories and a free catalog whether you're adding texture. A new variety for a splash of color developing an existing garden or starting from scratch stoke seeds has some great resources to help you plus all the gardening accessories you need to make your garden the envy of the neighborhood get growing with stokes. Now how today's question Janez said she needed some color in the house in the wintertime so you were going to give us a few plants that she can grow to get some color. Get Kid my thinking when I'm actually my job jar otherwise in mid late. May I'm having trouble thinking on into winter. Color however marked there are a number of things now again color would be a flowering plant. At least as I'm thinking about it and that takes me to having recently seen a plant called Paul Callan Chico and if I remember right it's K. A. L. A. N. C. H. E.. It's it's in some stores right now. I've seen it in the aisles. it's supplant that has Seat him like leaves kind of kind of fat muted Green Gray Green not particularly attractive in that regard but they have Number of colors of them. You can start little plants. I I've seen them in fairly sizable pots. Then I mentioned just having brought my orchids in mind won't be in bloom until after Christmas into the middle of the winter period but at the same time I I have walked by large large orchid displays in what is claimed to be the world's largest florist kroger. Yeah they have all kinds of things. also that there are some exciting colors available in grafted CACTI cactus. Oh yeah they're they're they're there well the professionals are reworking. Those little guys they're making anything except the original and they're they're sprouting some really nice flowers right now MORILLAS is a plant. That you you buy a great big bulb and grow it in in highlight turn it by all means every three ear four days as it starts to grow so a dozen lean toward the window too much and Vadim magnificent and then Such as those and and a little plant call paperweight which is a definite light. Well it's in that group Those plants can be bought and at one time. Then you you take them into a growing position in the pot or whatever as you wish I recommend roughly at two two and a half weeks cycle because an Amaryllis will take a while to come into flower It's GonNa Flower for about two two and a half weeks and then you can have the next one's coming on. As as a matter of timing the Bromellias now bromellias entered interesting plant. Their their color is in there. Rather stout looking leaf variations of gray green in its cetera but then they have a flowering structure in the center. Many kinds of Begonia can be grown indoor. Thanks again for listening to the PODCAST. Remember pre plan plan your indoor seats starting program with the help of stokes gardening guide and their online articles on their brand new website. Now mobile and tablet friendly and request your free catalog while you're online line for the best selection of vegetable flower and herb seeds available go to stoke seeds dot COM cultivating successful growers for generations.

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101419 Part 1

Ace and TJ

52:25 min | 1 year ago

101419 Part 1

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O. P. L. O. S. S. DOT COM callan use the Promo Code Ace TJ Ac but the light that I guess that's a light shining on fastest car to make it look like it was a face sticking out of the back window will look at eating homemade metal spikes in their driveways any pop dollar tires the police eventually made the connection he's now facing charges including attempting to initiate that was very very nice but ten fifty nine in the morning I'm standing in the airport waiting for a twelve o'clock flight wasn't standing I was sitting having a beer at the bar as anybody who follows my instagram at large would know because apparently I was told I was posting too many stories but let me get a pen all right ready all right I'll go first here's my story Tj because I saw this and went that we are that is school how has your conduct with an animal threatening possession of a destructive device at harassment okay so TJ? We'll have a thing down to try this product that I've been using Paul Callan cal trans not a drug it's any type of of stimulant or anything like that you take it rbis barrels on the farm take a break replaces the Collagen we lose as we get older and the great benefits as well you'll sleep better helps the joint pain helps with acid reflux and right now buy three get one free got from yesterday that was very nice yet very nice yet it freaked me out a little bit so I'm standing in the airport in New Orleans because I wanted to Lsu Game Lsu Florida game over the weekend I sit at this place one of those little it looks like would go up at one time they would all hit at once but anyway and I was at the game so yesterday morning I drove back to Orleans to fly out and I got a text from TJ hour and a half new was taking forever to get anything out it was hard to do text messages I don't know why they don't upgrade that stuff it seems like everywhere but so when they would go up like ten of them I'm not freaked out at all yeah hey why don't you run out there by yourself into the dark parking lot real quick check on my cellphone tablet and you drove by honking the horn laughing hey and then not paying attention and ran into the car in front of you and I got this tax from TJ Hey are you okay I'm just being weird but I had a bad dream last night and you're in it I'm just making sure you're alright now that was very nice then we couldn't get a cell signal to call nine one one so I just took off running and trying to get a signal jumped on this train that said cell signal up here and they can run out there and take a picture of it because I I have to know where I was standing looking at it see if the lighter hit it just right but but I'm pretty sure why are you out of the room I was telling you about your text message to be yesterday which was very nice but then then what happened is you've got one hundred and five thousand people crammed into campus so I was shooting stories then I would and it may not like they may not upload for a trailer the their silver that are diners sometimes on side of the road right and my family and I were eating in one of those Oh that was parked and it was because I've been watching that tailgating commercial for the allstate where yeah it was crazy but yeah that was really nice really nice and as I was enjoying a bloody Mary watching the Panther's game at the bar to me of this place called tweety railroad that we always take took our kids when they were little you jump on the train and he'd go up to the top of the mountain and that's where the sales go be but what kind of light makes faith here I don't know what were you looking at are you on to look like like a dog with a mask yeah I can see it okay okay yeah I can see how you would creeping up in the back very very kind very very tired but but then afterward I was nice with no that's Kinda creepy then it's kind of in your head like a hope uh-huh yeah it's never never good if it's a good dream they don't bother worrying about telling you the badgers let me just check and make sure you're okay which is always appreciated right the city of the plate I was like wow I hope wondering did he didn't dream I had a bad flight or something I didn't know what was the actual dream that you had to die and you're dreaming it was ridiculous it'll be okay on this flight home was fine nobile what happened to you in his dream me take me to that I had a bad dream about you last night just want to check and make sure everything's okay Mom does that a lot I was just I was thinking about you and I had a dream about you when I am not a good one apparent got on the train Luke Bryan and his wife were on I I don't even people tell me about dreams because they go on and it all worked out okay okay I have the the face in Sassus call see I'm free tout but at least we've confirmed it's not a face back in the room what did you what did you find out about her car what is on somebody was talking to my face it's a glare thing that will I am has ever posted like wow alliance and then are you going to meet the worst friends ever again like mayhem like me and the guy runs into the car so we kind of laughing at first and then run up and then you you're really bad badly injured it's not good they may be the worst friends ever all coming up and delicious Audio Act J. APP is your source there was like no I'm good I've ever had pretty awesome time okay good what time do you land okay okay cool no problem the APP available at Google play as and TJ coming up it doesn't take a focus group to name a Papa John's pizza with five of our best meets just take it not valid with other discounts these tax extra prizes may vary hey it's TJ and I wanna tell you about my recent stay at the Ballantyne you know the second streaming more show after the show live each weekday at ten am Easter or download the more show after the show podcast stay connected funny on the Act got new music from blackout piece what you say black eyed peas yes that's coming up and delicious audio for you to decide whether you like it or not I wonder if they will count in like one to the so tired but oh here black eyed peas have new music they got a new song featuring j Galvin the high blood was all over the place yeah we're not to my yourself SAS checking records what is on channel about the the the tax ooh love it Tj show presents delicious audio let's start with you music -perience of your life to go to the Ballantyne Dot com and see all the great things you can enjoy everything from their SPA to golf they're beautiful pool fine restaurant and everything else a true luxury hotel provides so book your stay now at the Ballantyne Dot Com. I really think you're GonNa let yeah so you WANNA post this out there on October morning real it looks like the villain from saw okay I know it looks like wow that's a lot of meat now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go enjoy the meats and my labour try large meats or works but just twelve bucks only Papa John's walk in you know you're in a fancy hotel is not only beautiful but the staff goes out of their way to make sure you have the most luxurious expe- decided to let the last person without a license and their friend group drive them to get something to eat so they recorded her first drive for their own social media accounts what are you what are you doing the nine Oh yeah I'm so that's new blackout p that's called written Oh and we may have the worst friend group ever a group of friends around there okay so TJ yeah I wanNA dream anything to do with with the flight is that why he's playing at a freak out but it was what did you say it's let's start let's start with you let's let's talk a little circle I've ever seen trying to show his face the circle you might as well of circle half the big I'm yeah I'm not good entire car it tells you hit the brakes or anything she wasn't traveling at high speed they had plenty of time to stop they just let her run into the tree okay she makes a hard left and drive straight into a massive oak tree outside a church but as soon as things start looking bad they stopped talking Norman Bates and blow it out the first thing you think of me with an S. meets plural used in a sentence there would be like holy I'm TJ always does this creepy laugh at his brother taught him and there's a little girl taking the song rhythm of the night this is the real ride and drove right into a tree and as they sit silently but are they what what yeah this is the act aw law of the with an evil laugh she's tiny swiped her big sisters phone and which she got caught this is her or they're calling seriously evil laugh the product external expert is a very recognizable sample and some of will IAMs as Reagan calls it worst lyrics ever the song is called written o our it written Mo don't worry go rooftop pedestal Ghani Medical Mexico a show is this Michael but that's that was the gist of it I love the fact that you were looking for sale signal when a train goes by that says has a sign that says up here right it kind of reminds he's he's spilling t t okay all right well let's try to wipe some of that up next there's more of the TJ show coming up that way and saying come on down here it's not it's not so freaked out yeah you shouldn't be there might be a killer in your car when you go to go to leave today where you walk just email Michelle at travel at ace TJ DOT com that's travel at ACE TJ DOT com want to save up to seventy five percent the tricks of the trade to get you the best deals possible there are now also payment options with no additional fees unlike the cruise lines and land packages eight hundred two eight seven forty seven Sixteen Papa John's ace and TJ APP today. I know I don't know how long it'll be so we're going to have this conversation then a break then after the break down don't let me forget all right because I'm GonNa give you a delicious drink recipe we're not gonNA posted it now go make a big deal out of it so be ready to ride down or be ready to go back and listen to the podcast later sponsored by Papa John's a little something extra then yes that you were not gonNa do anything else with you've got to be here to hear it hear the show twenty four seven at instant access the TJ on demand and all our podcast and enter to win cash from the act to stay connected is Elton John's story say Michael Jackson was mentally ill is he spilling tears talking about my friend and I know my friends truth and to have a little segment right now and then we're going to play take a break and play commercials in the hot hits after that be ready get it yeah so say about fifteen minutes ten to fifteen minutes something like that thirty fifty minutes whatever nine year old son of one of the party attendees like playing like you know army men nothing like that just because he couldn't interact normally with adults and stuff like that but they can't be Michael over to his house for a party and he said he couldn't interact with any of the adults so he ended up finding Michael in another room playing with the now grab doors and you guys walk killer with a face the size of a Chihuahua Weird I'll send it to you and then you can put a better yeah and then the sub headline could have been dot dot dot Duh it's his new autobiography it's called me and mastic or international airline tickets then call low cost airlines for prices so low we can't publish them call eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen it's great to have you seen this way he says Michael Jackson we'll first of all the headline I saw Elton John Says Michael Jackson was mentally ill funding on the act J. APP available at I tunes and Google play Okay Ladies Listen listen not right now it it's already time to get fall and holiday travel plans together our travel agent Michelle charges no fees and will bring her thirty years is is very easy very simple so What is this mass about Elton John Spilling tea all over Michael Jackson speared Um you know what some people blame his death on that Dijana here that I think the law that's going to be shocking revelation shocking to people really because I don't know if I would never even imagine Michael Jackson being normal at apart you can't pick your Michael and he basically talks about a bunch of occurrences run-ins he had with Michael Jackson and he said like when he was he's known him his whole life he knew my his whole life he said when he when Michael was in the Jackson I five when he was young artist he was a great kid like super easy to be around but as he got older he became more unstable he said the last running he had with him he invited sustaining right in somebody's living room so what do you do for a living any blames it partially on the doctors that were pumping him full of drugs? What makes Elton John Now why is he discussing this now I don't know was he got in his book but he needs books I saw that he was going to this morning on Good Morning America or something like that the today show one of those and I wondered what skin stints but yeah delicious fall Martini who next everyone Jason Tj show riggins reminded us the other day that we need to get on this TJ tradition before we look up and it's that way because the movie that she has coming out or the doubt she speaks that way in the movie so maybe it was just kind of part of the thing she was on a red carpet I think she's still does I saw another celebrity doing it the other day it was an Angelina Jolie yeah maybe she's an odd one to listen to but she may have she may have been speaking magic powers of observation and and my deduction skills and everything in my profiling being we you want us to she didn't talk for why would that English accent yeah there's a recognizable sample that Internet a brigands did say he believes these are possibly the worst lyrics ever because most respected societal profiler I can guess your Halloween costume so that'll be fun for everybody hopefully okay here we go it is it is the fall and the fall things are happening you're having get togethers ladies love thank is that shocking so you don't you don't think he'll he'll do a version of candle in the wind for her own it's not we didn't we didn't do it like we normally do? TJ guesses your costume yeah so go back a minute I drink menu when it gets winter there's a very very famous popular cocktail for winter parties called The white odd why are we what does it Johnson big thing for now but I didn't know that it had a book coming out he needs a bunch celebrity I think he doesn't really done like Madonna either APP available at I tunes and Google play more as at TJ coming up coming up on the morning at seven eight and nine eastern Regan's hosts out get get the latest from what's going on around the world live on the AC Tj show on the act their own On the Saturday night for the Lsu game and nobody That was there except for my friend Michael just let her try right into a tree hit the brake hit the brake right because what are you doing she was making a left and she just took it way too wide butterscotch schnapps one ounce butterscotch schnapps two ounces Carmel Vodka too houses apple cider not the kind that's hard apple cider old-fashioned apple cider they have over in the produce section during the fall at the grocery being able to present the the ladies that are coming over with some kind of a special drink for the night night special cocktail I after medical any medical medical with pedestal and then before that was scenario. Here's what you're going to need caramel sauce is the kind that you get over by the ice cream that goes on top of ice cream caramel sauce l. likes these types of drinks so it was Michael in me the ladies were drinking beer so you're in crap great are the drink item is coming up next what do you call it drink respite recipe thing but is an alcoholic drinks so if if you don't drink alcohol then it's not going his movie was good by Detroit coining yeah no you pretended sore so it's one ounce butterscotch schnapps two ounces of Carmel Vodka two ounces of Apple Cider as county white grape Martini or something like that they have them at which call it the bone fish and harmony restaurants up in a Martini Shaker with ice and strain into the carmine glass just like that maybe three minutes wow go through the ingredients ed please okay let's do it this way make it easier so two ounces of Carmel Vodka two ounces tell me how to Oh gosh two ounces of Karma Vodka Ounces of Apple cider and ladies drink that only TJ Michael enjoyed the other because it is it's a Caramel Apple Martini right that's all you mix together drizzle The caramel sauce in a chilled Martini? Glass as drizzle it through there and then shake all the other uh-huh or White Cran Y cranberry Martinis but anyway this is how to get to get wants to post he's not gonNA post it so you can go get it later we're doing this whole style if you miss it you miss it or go get it on the podcast sponsored by Papa John's meaning now there are a lot of different caramel apple Martinis at this is not a special drink that nobody's ever heard of but this is just the very easy recipe so you can throw it together even Sassy as of Apple Cider and one ounce of Butterscotch schnapps shaking together poured into the Carmel on glass could do this and she can't cook anything or make anything in the kitchen okay here you go no offense here are the ingredients so listen carefully because it's too much I mean it's too Too much amounts of butter voter Scott Butterscotch schnapps yes not I don't drink schnapps what that is but it's a you you want the success you WanNa look at yourself and go hey look it is I've lost inches I've lost pans but you don't want to risk your health while you're doing it so that's why it's a an elixir kind of drizzle Carmel in the glass poor ever you got it you didn't need to write it down you need to have it posted up somewhere the rhythm rebels as opposed several porn and be welcomed like a dead they never get around so there's a word I've never used by life snaps. It's an elixir. TJ Google Elixir Elixir is usually the medicine instead sir now there's more A._C._T. Jay on palms it was weird to see though absolutely one hundred percent today is Columbus Day it's also National Dessert Day national native American Day this gives us a day and oh my God I feel so good feel ten times millions of people tuned in on twitch in Youtube to watch fortnight Dan shots all night until they carry you Eh it's drinking lincoln tonight five dollar Bud lights one dollar hot Dan enjoy ladies and men like me and Mike coming up on now trending with Regan's last night Justin Bieber did something posted that kind of destroy itself the original map that became so popular as a fortnight as the online game that's free to play destroyed its own map and it was all his to our radio family members in Columbia South Carolina and South Carolina gamecocks upsetting number three Georgia big time that was a major major deal over the weekend it was an from all over the area just crazy in Georgia I do think it's odd that they give every fan a pom pom because to see guys hour we give you the hottest trending topics in the world this is Dow training with rates on the act J. Show so many things to get to this morning but first of all congratulate P O n Really and I think maybe at one point called pompons Pon Poms it is the original name of the Little Shaker things who messed that up along the way to start calling shaking pom poms it's weird I'm sorry it's an odd bookings guys like absolutely not like cheerleader style pom-pom and also a national be balled and be Free Day so listen if you're losing your head don't worry about is not a big deal today's your day in that works it does Ason TJ APP available at Google play TJ coming up at the top of the on Instagram I want to know from the women if it's cute or creepy I don't know details and now trending listen two minutes when you want to hear the show any time remember I was telling you about earlier in the room here I was at the Lsu Florida game we were to tailgate that's right in the middle of campus and there there's a ton of tailgating I get a big circle and thousand away with this one watch it happen live and then wait may I'll be back and so they were able to keep the attention of six million small constrain the Tj show replay all day every weekday after the show download the show with the act J. Show on demand stay connected funny on the of a necklace he made for his new wife Haley Baldwin Bieber I dunno or calling her Haley Haley Bieber Haley BBC into a black hole nearly six million people watch this livestream and now fortnight isn't a blackout no one can sign in and play and so we're just GONNA have wife beaded necklace so but she would laugh problem because it would not look nearly that good as his did I mean the actual craftsmanship would be shoddy at Beth crafty guy that knows adult children of today that's what it was six million adult children maybe okay yeah and Justin Bieber about eleven hours ago posted a picture on his instagram pompoms on the end of a stick like a pinwheel and they're just shaking them in the care like you're you just as soon catch me at a fast and furious marathon then children for that long what is Craig how long did it take surely didn't think that I mean it was an hours and hours stream will hours and hours little kids the people gathered around and you knew something was happening because suddenly everybody was trying to find a TV and when it was when it was over when Georgia mistake at the end there was just this explosion of sound you could hear take on national television my dad would disown me you know they're really called Pon poms poms Yeah uh-huh yes how would your significant others react if you made them a necklace a homemade necklace would be okay with it except I would probably call it a a wife beated yeah and then the butterscotch schnapps is that the liquor sto around the cone style and so there you go gene make it seem more like I'm a normal partisan yeah all right we'll do it next this is the TJ show Tj show presents a moment with riggins impeccably dressed for a Tuesday afternoon meanwhile I am in basketball shorts a t shirt and crocs looking like an absolute toolbag everybody was talking about this is the top trending topic yesterday afternoon in all morning so that was a big deal to a certain group of people hate missed yeah exactly other things are now training okay Halloween tradition. TJ guesses your costume we always do this focused that long usually on things that's that's amazing good for them it wasn't just little kids of course it was oh it had to have been did you watch I watched people though that I have talked to that have worn them that do love them are not exactly absolutely right I've never met a person who's ever worn crocs who doesn't absolutely love wearing them and say they're the most comfortable shoes in their in Canada and he has to do that in candidate because that's all he can afford when he's back there Oh oh gosh yeah do they let you even if you got rich in the kind of wait until a new map is released something happens but what what a genius idea though like took over the world for a brief period of time okay we're going to do us they let you be rich in Canada when you go back to visit no I didn't think so he's like one of them once poor Canada was I would say it's a beaded necklace that it has the words wifey in it now I don't know he got creative and wanted to make his wife and Nichols because I mean that's a that's a crock type activity crock people activity right the fair things of that nature would this insisting on it because ace was gone Friday to Louisiana and so I may just even throw it this time so it doesn't have to happen shops no it's not is it telling liqueur the liqueur yes radio announced and I'll take offense to that Reagan's you're just now crocs fan though you haven't been says wi-fi on it I don't know maybe he made it himself it's like you know kind of like a macaroni I dunno well th- and I don't I don't particularly care for the term wifey the moment where people were playing the game in the the black hole was created because it all happen within about two minutes and then I'm not GonNa Watch it live for six hours but I did watch it to see what for Huckabee her hubs but when you have people's personal choice but when you have all the M- I mean he can buy her anything he wants the ones that I'm going to bump into at my favourite activities you know what I'm saying being very real get Outta here with that no way am I that I may be a bunch of things but I'm not judgy doc about Yankees absolutely nuts over Halloween said they had just moved into a new neighborhood her husband and kids and she had moved into a new neighborhood and they're all Yankees on the street and have just blistered it with Halloween decorations and on yeah but the point was he I'm GonNa do this for her I'll do it myself he took the time to do something so there was some time and effort and thought that went into it seems very sweet anybody so I had a lady sent me a message the other day say you're absolutely right about what you've always said one for forever used to be a naysayer of the crocs sure because they look stupid but not cute not at all they're goofy looking but once you this is something we do every year around this time on the ace and Tj Show you call in and I will get so what you're saying did you elaborate just not a lot in common still digging on the crack love in the cracks I get it the what everybody said about the yeah what gives you inspiration what do you look like you know like that because if you really ugly person for for day to day you're right on the edge dimension Derby yeah if sounds sort sounds like it could be slightly judgy wrote i-i-it always do this because it means not I don't like anybody think I'm bragging at the ability that I have riggins is the one that that came up what is your costume can I guess it or will you make a fool of me we'll find out next L. No from your voice okay no kidding so one triple eight forty one as TJ. I'm just a loser if you're going to go on his instrument impose pretty cheap looking you suck or whatever and shut up your even have a girlfriend boyfriend you lose her well maybe maybe yeah that's all I'm sayin I'm saying I mean I don't even even though I may say that it looks like fund to when I'd like to be nice looking at least one of the three sixty five is that going to be one of the questions could I mean as your Halloween costume than the way I do this just by asking you a few questions about your personality you know what what makes you what makes you happy what makes you upset what all right bill spoke Italian season two and a half weeks away from her old soul sometime okay would you are no no no that's sweet yeah okay how would you think who said it was creepy some people in the comments on on his instagram post why Hi Samantha Welcome to the

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FreshBooks on How to Double Organic Reach and Grow Sales by Firing Agency

Marketing Scoop Podcast

22:40 min | 7 months ago

FreshBooks on How to Double Organic Reach and Grow Sales by Firing Agency

"You're listening to marketing scoop. Podcast brought to you by. Sem Rush the third season of marketing. Scoop podcast is dedicated to the brightest cases in digital marketing presented by industry experts revealing their unique mix of best practices tools insights and skills that impact your marketing strategy and now your host featured by INC magazine as one of the top women in tech to follow known as the girl gets done. It's back to the marketing podcast powered by SEM rush so looking forward to today's episode with one of my favorite companies. Fresh books yes. We will be having an amazing conversation with one of the premier cloud and counting an invoice software companies. On how after they got bad advice from their agency we were able to double their organic reach increased sales significantly so excited to share this case. Study with you enjoy episode. Welcome Paul Thank you. It's awesome to be here. Amazing intro thank you. I'm just really looking forward to this. Fresh books has been one of my favorite companies from the Get-go I think what you guys do to rally the community together. It's not just accounting bookkeeping. Fresh books built a culture and a community to really serve and it just stands for so much more than just a software so I I can't wait. I'm looking forward to this. Awesome excellent so pal go ahead tell us formerly a little bit about who you are and what you do sure. I'm Paul Callan. I'm the chief marketing officer here fresh book so that means that I run marketing here at the company. I've spent a long time in this marketing world. I've traveled between big companies and startups and throughout the years. I've really kind of got to roll up my sleeves with everything that I'm doing. So love this world and it's always a ever changing and fun environment so looking forward to chatting a bit better today. Tell us a little bit about fresh books. I know that I'm a super fan but I don't want assume everybody listening knows so. Can you tell us a little bit about fresh books? What does it do sure? We're in the exciting category of cloud accounting so most people don't don't get too excited when they hear the words accounting but from the inception and today we've we've been a platform that's really been built for owners. We've really focused on giving the appropriate tools for owners to be able to run their business and keep really close to you on. What's important to them? Which is their finances and even more importantly their client so our platforms been specifically built for what we call service based businesses or really what that means. It's it's companies like web designers or lawyers or contractors or people who generally feel like people who are servicing customers servicing clients have a relationship from a client standpoint and everything we do is really bad how we can connect them to understanding that relationship with their client which is obviously based off their finances. And give some context. How large is fresh books? How many people are on the team? We'RE BASED UP HERE IN TORONTO. We've got offices in Amsterdam and down in Raleigh North Carolina in Toronto. Our head offices were about three hundred fifty people and growing quite a bit so we're probably bursting a little bit at the seams by the end of the year. We'll be at about five hundred and forty five hundred and fifty people and obviously servicing people in one hundred sixty odd markets worldwide. Right now and you have a crazy amount of customers. You know the company's been around for fifteen years and we have a service well over twenty four million people over that amount of time so we we definitely have touched a good population of small business owners and people that they're working with. We're going to be getting into really cool case study today. Can you tell us a little bit about the case study? Wanted to talk a little bit about what we're doing in the SEO space and some of the challenges that we had in terms of our existing setup and what we're able to do so we focused a lot last year on really kinda reinventing what we're doing in Seo. We had had had a couple of gaffes in in terms of working with some of our partners. And we're able to turn those around and be able to triple our seo traffic to our site and really be able to get some of that rocket ship style growth. That people like to see in their marketing efforts. I'm so looking forward to getting into it. But before then. What attracts you to marketing. When did you first get into marketing? I well I think there was a of reasons why I got into marketing. One is is back when I was a thirteen year. Old running my lawn cutting business. I really love the whole thing of being able to go out and build Your Business and and and service customers and clients and try to grow business. So I really quickly realized. The value of door-to-door sales flyers kind of did so direct marketing was in my veins. And you know as I as I went through the years and kind of went through university and stuff. I spent a lot of my time. Instead of focusing on a education I like to throw a lot of parties and do things like bus three thousand people from to a small town and be able to host them at a at a great party a rent out a parking garage so what. I found more interesting than anything was being able to figure out how I could get people to decide to do things and then provide great experiences for them and that really launched on on why I want to go into marketing and what I wanted to do with my career in terms of trying to get people to get an rational love for brands and for companies. Someone that you follow that you recommend we should pay attention to. I'm kind of old school and in terms of of who who look at who I follow. I love staying current but I really been a big fan of Jeffrey Moore in the work that he's done in the author of crossing the Chasm and do grill a game in this. Most recent book I believe is inside. The tornado really is dynamic in terms of trying to think about managing businesses and think about different ways that we should be adapting strategies to be able to adapt to different competitive environment to market dynamics and one last question before we jump into this case study. What is one great piece of advice that you've got in your marketing career? Along the way recently I was having a conversation with some folks about just how marketing has been changing a lot and specifically in terms of how people's careers have been progressing within marketing. Today one thing I always want to make sure people think about is in their career. Make sure that they've got like a kind of a veracious appetite to be able to learn horizontally and to be able to really understand all of the different marketing skills and disciplines. What I'm what I'm starting to see is that there's very kind of like vertically. Based kind of skill sets that are being developed where people don't really still understand the full marketing sweet and so you know when people often kind of used to pursue kind of a t base career path where they would kind of get expertise and then and then start to to branch out learn other things. Were starting to see more and more. That people aren't branching out from their core area of expertise so with people coming into the marketing world on my team and otherwise I really try to get people to stretch sideways and start to learn about some of the other disciplines to make sure that we're growing a really great kind of classes of horizontally base marketers. Who can who can really understand things like the full funnel Info Customer Journey and experiences. Completely and I can't forget to mention you guys launched a podcast of your own last year. What can fine tuning into the fresh books? Podcast it's been a great success for so far. It's it's really focused on helping people who are thinking of starting a company or people who have been running a business on their own and give them some some really practical advice tips and talking with other people who've gone through some of those similar types of experiences and obviously having some very dynamic and interesting personalities like yourself who has appeared on our podcast as well and be able to really kind of give people that that practical understanding about the things that they may face in how to get over some of those those core problems in feelings of isolation and or whatever it might be that they're having on their journey of growth. And and where can we find? You can find it wherever any podcasts are found. All you need to do is search for. I make a living fresh books and you will come across it there. We run a series of of events called. I make a living as well. So on top of the podcast we do these events which host a bunch of people who are specific to the city or town that we happen to be in and and we provide a forum for both people to learn about the trials and tribulations that people have gone through in terms of building their business as well as a forum to build a network with other folks within that either startups or entrepreneurial or or small business space to be able to to kind of help figuring some of the things that they need to do to grow successful in their business. And what a great way to intimately get to know your customers to be able to solve their paying points and to be able to curate your. Seo To match what? They're searching for to solve online right and they have nothing but ideas for us in terms of how we can improve our product to. So let's get into this. Seo Journey of yours so you got rid of your agency and then completely doubled your organic reach flake. What a bit of background in terms of kind of where fresh books that had been coming from at the time we got into into where we were you know. Like most companies were were playing in an attrition. Game where you know. We're we're attracting prospects or bringing into our trial experience with our product and we want to get them to convert into a into a paying customer after obviously a a certain amount of time and And really we just need to make sure that mathworks through the funnel and more importantly though through at the final we're providing the best experiences that we possibly can to the customer and through the years. Fresh books has really been focused on being response driven marketer so like like most companies we love performance and we love making sure that the channels that were looking at are driving people in. We're looking in constantly optimizing those different channels to make sure that Our spend is the most effective. We possibly can in terms of attracting the right type of people. So the early and mid twenty tens we. We're we're really diverse in terms of our integrated channel strategy and doing things like digital and PC direct TV and some radio and stuff and and it was working fairly well and then in the mid to Kinda the later two thousands. We pulled back a little bit in terms of the full spend and started really just focusing on lower funnel in response activity in focusing on like sem as a primary driver of of of our activity and so really it was great. But when when we're having to pay for all of our our traffic and it was fairly low funnel it definitely then comes at an impact things like brandon and things like our organic search volume and stuff like that we really wanted to just reinvigorate that activity. We had some partners on board who were helping their but unfortunately there was a few challenges that we ran into after some bad advice and then all of our organic absolutely plummeted due. To some of the court gauges nine. Never never get things a little bit about what was done wrong. Well it was. It was some some bad advice. Involving some three zero one redirects so where we just redirected a bunch of pages to our core main page just resulted in some dramatic declines in our actual traffic volume. Also not fun. It wasn't a good thing to see so the team kind of took the reins over internally and we wanted to just kinda rebuild our SEO efforts to make sure that we could resurrect that activity in that also get a bit more of a best in class type of approach to what we're doing like most things that it always kinda starts off with research. So we use tools like sem rush to be able to do some researches fewest some other tools to really understand what we're the relevant keywords and what keywords had the highest demand against them for us to be able to start capitalizing on that type of activity. What we wanted to do is use the tools like that to be able to make sure that we could create content and our pages appealed to the variety of short medium and long tail keywords. That the primary traffic drivers one thing we knew of in one thing we covered too was that invoicing has a huge amount of demand and capitalize on this. We'd be in great shape so in terms of the numbers like to give you a sense. At the time the target keyword invoice template was getting about ninety thousand searches per month in the US globally. It was seeing about two hundred fifty thousand searches per month as well so a huge amount of traffic going there and and in particularly as we are a company. That's targeting the owners. We know that this was also a a pretty major pain point from customers as well when you think of the like our competitive set so yes our competitive set is you know other other accounting software providers but the other side of it too. Is that a lot of small business owners whether they're starting up or or relatively established are using things like excel like Microsoft. Excel or word. Documents has their invoicing templates right so we. We really felt that if we capitalize on this pain point really focus on building oh content around this pain point we bring them into our pages and be able to help convert a lot of traffic but this is where things get difficult because to build pages and to build content is definitely not not an easy thing. We just at the time because as I know fresh books it's always been the invoicing solution back then right but at the time. What you were discovering this about the key words was your presence as I know it as an invoicing solution or did you change your your forward facing presence as well. When fresh book started fifteen years ago there were no other competitors in the category or no other real cloud competitors in the category so now if you if you start to look for invoicing platforms like you have marketing platforms. Do Invoicing and payments you have platforms do payments. You have vertically based ones that was specifically focused on a specific type of customer segment so the category is is much more crowded than it was ten to fifteen years ago. So we're still no one for those things but the competitive landscape in the competition over all these keywords is absolutely immense right mm-hmm okay. So so you dive in. And you start to restructure everything and then what are the first steps? We created about one hundred and ten different pages around the Keyword Invoice. Template we wanted to own this this category and dominating this category. We knew that if if we did this we would. We'd be able to significantly drive a huge amount of traffic and a huge amount of people coming into trial product and potentially then conversions on top of that as well to give you an idea like we created a main page. Start off with the easy stuff which is like let's create an invoice template page and give people lots of different types of tools that they can comply with and give people assets like where they wanNA download invoice that was an excellent or otherwise and then we would create massive amounts variants off of these different types of templates than we used a hub and spoke model in terms of the Lincoln approach to the pages. So really what we did. There was forever kind of secondary page that was created. We would link back to the main envoys page or to other related pages than the person might be interested in so the part here is like being able to have like a artists. Be Able to get over to the graphic designer page and be all linked together to help kind of our traffic from that standpoint as well. I just remember back in the day. Everybody would create these micro sites which weren't on the main domain. They were You know In order to do a link buildings tragedy. And so yeah okay. So everything's on the fresh books domain in all internal and you're building up the content ecosystem. Yeah Yes oh pages are some aren't but we're actually working on a strategy right now but making some of the things a little bit more a little bit more findable off of our core pitch today and how do you maintain your ranking. You already have the most efficient content for invoice template and then what can you possibly add on top of it to increase the value to Google another Internet's one? Just being able to make sure we're continually doing that. That research to make sure that those those keywords and that what the content that's being reflected on the pages are going back to those short mid and long term tail keywords and as those evolve that were making sure that we're keeping pace with that and then for any updates that we're making to those pages. Were making sure that technical side of the pages are being updated as well and we're not just kind of doing superficial changes to the pages but we're doing as much as we possibly can basically. There's no secret sauce. The secret sauce is really be efficient in doing your research and your keyword homework and creating really valuable content and then the hard part is creating it in the execution but not in knowing what to do. Am I missing something? If it's it's right like it sounds I think with all these things they sound simple but when it gets into execution it's real. It's hard sometimes people. Just underestimate the amount of time and the amount of volume of content that they need to put into the space so we really didn't value the volume of content. That we really should have so building. Scalable approaches to be able to generate. Content is extremely hard to build out our resource hub. We're we hired five writers for a three month timeframe and spent a week with training them on how to write. Seo Style or for or content. That would work really well in an SEO style so for example doing things like how to optimize for feature sniffing. Can you give us visual? Walk through like a feature that you have and what that would look like or these would be specifically for content that might be addressing specific types of pain points for customer or specific types of features within the platform as well. You know we would do things like sourcing topics from Google around using the people also ask feature to be able to see questions and be able to make sure that we're answering questions as a related to like accounting and taxes entrepreneurship and we will then build a bank of those questions so that we would have like thousands of different types of topics and total similarly group topics in. They'd be altogether. It's so close. Sem Rush has that feature the questions like takes care of all that for you know absolutely and that's where that's where I think using using tools appropriately and then being able to execute it as is the hard part. What are your systems in place to assess traffic and to see what pages maybe aren't working as well and to reorganize what are your operations are strategy related to analysis. Luckily we have a really great data science and analytics team that we partner with working a lot looking at multichannel attribution to be able to see the types of touches that that go on as people engage with us and really it is that ongoing cycle of of making sure that that we have our SEO team paired up with our analytics team so that they can they can have that view as to like. How much traffic are they referring? What's actually happening with that traffic? It's really about trying to understand to make sure that the quality of all of the activity that's coming in is is is looking looking good as well as converting. Yes and you know. It's really interesting. So this this all started with getting misinformation in the implementing a strategy. That didn't turn out so well. What lead in order to help others? What led to Green Lighting Strategy? Didn't work what can we do? What should we ask ourselves to prevent that mistake from happening? I think we always need to make sure that one. We're looking at the numbers and that were being able to like dig a little bit deeper and not taking things at face. Value our images justice crucial as taxed. Sometimes imagery is more important as it relates to being able to drive the conversion activity you could create wonderfully seo optimized pages purely based on text or minimal amounts of text. But I think the imagery is going to be what drives the behavior on the page that you want the customer to take and is coming from a guy who worked for a few years shutter stock and selling imagery to people from fresh book standpoint in evolution of what we're doing just because we got hit in the Seo World No matter what there's always a big mountain to climb and so. I think that that constant desire to keep changing and learning and adapting marketing styles and approaches is so key today and just having that thirst to never kind of sit in on your loyals and just like be happy with what you actually drove is one of those things. I'm trying to get like my team to kind of get that hunger for anybody. I work with. Try to get them to really just kind of think about like what's next and what's next. How do we constantly improve on this stuff? And just because one playbook worked five years ago two years ago six months ago. It doesn't mean that playbook necessarily the right thing to be doing as we move forward totally times are always changing. We have to stay on top of our game and adapt with how things are evolving forward. We're people connect with you. If you just Google Cowan you will find me. And all the various places whether it's linked in twitter or otherwise and then if you if you dare to message me I may return to. And where should they message you just on anywhere on social yeah absolutely? It's usually at count on all channels. Thank you so much for hanging out with a marketing scoop podcast. This has been fantastic to connect and collaborate with SEM rush picture to say hello at Sem Russia and also show on twitter on instagram on facebook rate in review. The podcast to say hello to me at Esprit. Devora on all social. I will see you guys in the next episode by Marketing Scoop. Podcast is hosted by ME IS FREE DEBORAH WITH HELP FROM JANICE. 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Death of Kobe Bryant

The Current

09:01 min | 9 months ago

Death of Kobe Bryant

"In the fall of nineteen ninety eight an elderly woman known as the Cat Lady went missing. She had a very Very Distinctive Silhouette and very recognizable. When so you're walking into town a handkerchief on her hair long overcoat like somebody that lived on the street? All police could find were thirty. Thirty cats shot dead. I always knew something happened to her disadvantage like that uncover the cat lady case from CBC ABC podcasts. This is a CBC podcast Galloway. This is podcast from the January. Twenty seventh edition of the current a Toronto Raptors been attributed up. There's a twenty four second shot clock and of course Kobe Bryant wore number twenty four and I wonder if that is what is happening in in honor of him. Twenty four second shot clock expired remarkable scene yesterday at the beginning of Toronto Raptors game the Raptors in the San Antonio Spurs pay tribute to NBA Great. Kobe Bryant Bryant running down the twenty four second shot clock in honor of the number that he wore twenty four. Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash. In California yesterday eight other people including including his daughter were also killed Gomez. Kelly has written about Kobe Bryant extensively over the years and he's with me in studio now. Good morning morning. How would you describe Kobe? Bryant has a basketball go. I would say a brilliant an incredibly brilliant but complicated figure transformative I think the modern NBA. And I'm not talking about the tactics of the way they play but the way the NBA carries itself. It's dominance throughout the world is perhaps the world's most fascinating league a lot of that is down to him. Why what what did he do? There are other superstar superstar. Certainly what did he do. That was transforming. I would suggest that the thing that Ryan did that. You know it's hard not to call them Koby The thing that Kobe did that other other players couldn't do is that he brought this mercurial persona this need to attract attention on and off the court and a sort of arrogance the translated with fans in a way that mere play couldn't I think the way I put it. Today's he was social media before there was social media. He was a person that used the price us who berated his teammates who castigated his opponents who was against everyone tilted every windmill and people found that fascinating and the important important thing of course is that he could back it up. He was probably the most brilliant player of his generation fascinating. backstory grew up in a basketball family and grew up in Europe before he moved back to North America. who was Kobe? Bryant and in that context in that context Kobe Bryant was a a child that was bred for greatness whose parents had decided in his youth he would be special in some way. That wasn't necessarily basketball. But it turned out that weighs father play professionally overseas. He was home schooled and so when he arrived. Eddie arrived with this incredible cockiness and self assuredness that people really hadn't seen before he was able to display in a bunch of different languages. -solutely was multi-lingual. You know it was pointed out that he could have got a scholarship the US based on his academics not as athletics so he was someone someone who was bred for greatness and carried that through like never seemed to lose that self belief even when we know forget it wobbled at the beginning wasn't quite the player. He was initially advertised as he had to grow into that role and came in straight from high. I school that's exactly right. He was one of the last to do it. His career there are people in Canada who will remember higher low point in which he scored eighty one points against the Toronto Raptors. What did that tell you what he was capable of that he could? It was two things that happen there I to score eighty. One Point is insane in that game he took forty six shots. The Raptors total so about ten players to seventy six so we. He didn't lack for self belief. That was the thing is that most players will never score that automatics. Most players will not take that many shots and they will try passing off at some point but he just felt he was in a rhythm and kept going later. He called that he didn't talk about The physical physical need of doing it. He's talked at his feet of the imagination. That only he could imagine so big to score eighty one point in the imagination of basketball fans. And you saw this yesterday not just social media but if you talk to basketball fans of a generation of his generation he was the greatest player he mean to Tabasco ball players and fans of the current generation. Because there's Michael Jordan and there's Larry Bird and there's there's a long list of of extraordinary players but in that generation. He seemed special. Well the thing is I think McKee Kobe. Bryant had a Shakespearean Art to his careers is three. Kobe's there's the initial Kobe that wins the first championships and becomes you. Know the the the rising star in the NBA NBA. The new Michael Jordan. Probably the second best shooting garden history after Jordan. Then there is the sex assault accusation at which point his reputation is brought low understandably. Then there is kind of a dark koby period after that when he becomes quite embittered and retreats into himself and then there's that necessarily third arc mark when he becomes the elder statesman that went on for quite a while. That's the player I think. Players of this generation remember when he became a kinder gentler. Koby he he was still. You still could kick against the pricks many hot too. But he was the sort of person that took people under his wing and was more open to new players as you mentioned at the height of his success success. He's accused of sexual assault. He's arrested never tried Settled a civil suit related to this out of court. The story was that this would have destroyed his His career now if this had happened now in the era of me to in an era of heightened awareness around sexual assault That he would have never come back he did come back. And how do you rebuild his his career and his image. After the I think the thing that athletes the advantage. If that's the word we WANNA use that. Athletes athletes have in. This is that you know whereas other careers when something like this happen necessarily stop athlete. There's a huge investment in them. Their career continues because they're under contract in most cases. And so you have your way to play your way out of it fairly or unfairly and people have very strong opinions on that but because he continued to be great and because he continued to win and championships later on people simply forgave is the right word they simply move past it. How does that count the legacy that you see him leaving? It certainly complicates his legacy. I think that's where people to say to themselves At this comes down to I would think an art versus the artist question. I think thank you can appreciate the art without necessarily endorsing every single thing about the artist. There is a view that is shared that The statistics don't define his legacy gacy in some ways that he had all the numbers. But that isn't the full picture. No I think that's absolutely true because it is what we think people will remember about Kobe. Bryant a generation ration- from now is not that he was the fourth leading score of all time or the five championships are the remarkable eighteenth street. All Star Games What it is? The Person Colby. Oh be encouraged players in the NBA. I think writ large to be more themselves to be more honest In the media. But what they thought was going on on to be crueler which people are always attracted to. I mean nobody. Nobody was crueler to his teammates. Think coby Bryan people loved it and also also to see themselves as something more than basketball in sports standards. He was a renaissance man. This guy spoke Italian. He played the piano. Appreciate it art. He was probably the first north. American can athlete that gave people permission to like soccer because he was such a big fan of it. So this is someone that was a lot more than what he did on the court beyond. The numbers is heartbreaking video. That's been circulating regulating Of Kobe Bryant on Jimmy Kimmel show speaking about his daughter who was also killed in the helicopter crash yesterday talking about how she was a basketball player and and when people came up on the street and talk to him he looked at her in some ways as furthering his legacy What does that tell you about who he was as a person people say that that not just? There's a father better. Somebody who became an advocate for women in sport. Yeah in a massive AD. Could he'd recently said that he thought women should be playing in the NBA. Not at some future point but right now this is someone who saw himself. He was raised as a legacy. That was the entire point of his of his child obviously wanted to carry that on. He didn't see his greatness. I I think is imbued entirely in himself. which a lot of a lot of great people do he saw? That is a generational patrimony that he was going to pass on. Call Paul Callan. It's good to have you here. Thank you good to be. Call Kelly as a columnist with the Globe and Mail for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

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121619 Total Recall

Ace and TJ

22:08 min | 11 months ago

121619 Total Recall

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You'll be glad you did and happy Thanksgiving from our family family to yours every day. Second by second minute by minute hour by hour talktime goes by taking this farther and farther away from those memories of the past. Do you remember. Remember that time. Remember win win now. You don't have to remember because we do. This is the ace and TJ total recall. Strap yourselves in because we're going all the and today when it comes this addition of total recall we start with a great addition of bad boyfriend. Poker P- at Christmas that dry. It's the Christmas edition a bad boyfriend poker plus us. Hey Santa's great and it's wonderful but sometimes let's face it sometimes fan of forgets the details. It's funny because it's not you as a kid when Santa forgives the details. That's coming up today but we start with what this week sounded like four years ago. It's Reagan's and the week in review. TJ's Aj's total recall podcast And this is my song it's Khaliq and repute. It's a week's worth of shows. Summarize for you know special effects and no auto tune just me and my guitar performing foreman for you there's a new Salami that can cure your hangover. They're soothing ingredients in every bite getting drunk and eating Salami. It sounds like my kind of night. Kim Kardashian named her baby boy saint. They're setting a high bar for him. I'm not saying he won't be a wonderful person. I'm saying the chances are pretty slim next next week. Star Wars role arrive in theaters. I'm just imagining a lot of dudes. Lindsey tried on stormtrooper costume but they weren't made for enormous boobs and this is my song the week in review. It's a week's worth of shows summarized for you know special effects and no auto tune just me and my guitar performing performing for you. We're having the ASON. TJ Employees Christmas party this weekend. It's going to be crazier than ever before. Just getting Ayso drink three beers puke on shoes and then we'll all all be home by four. That's what really happens. Update like everyone else. I wanted to Hover Board for Christmas. I found one for a price that was reasonably low. Then I was like you don't want to leave your apartment. Where the L.? Are you going to go. I also wanted a new pair of leather boots wanted that I could wear during rain or snow then it was like you don't want to leave your apartment. Where the hell are you gonNa go and this is my song? It's called the week in review. It's a week's worth of shows shows. Summarize for you know special effects and no audio to just me and my guitar performed for you are manager. Adam is trying trying to get eighties band heaven seventeen to tour the US. Ankara website. Our manager Adams trying to get eighties band heaven seventeen to tour who are the US. I guess he went to one of their shows and gave him his card regardless of the outcome. I'm glad to see he's working hard. I love being single around Christmas. It beats having to meet her family and getting flustered. Of course. I don't WanNa build a gingerbread house. Ed Rather get waterboarded with mustard and this is the weekend review. It's a week's worth of shows. Summarize for you know special effects and no auto to just me and my guitar performing for you now. We're just two weeks away from Christmas. I love seeing all the wrapped presents under the tree. This year Charlie Sheen got a lump of coal and by combing HIV. Ah The lead singer of Stone Temple pilots has passed away if you heard the news. You got the gist. They found SANITEC sleeping pills painkillers. Viagra Viagra sounds like jared fobel's Christmas list. Okay all right thanks guys thanks. Wow no I don't know it's okay. It's okay leaving me way out there. Aren't you going down to okay. All right. The first edition Shen of breaking and entering Christmas was pretty emotional. We gave family furniture presence in food until Lindsey just ripped one in the studio and it just totally killed the movie and this is my song. It's called the week in review so week's worth of shows. Summarize for you know special effects and no auto tune just me and my guitar performing for you thank you. It is the ACE and Tj. Totally call podcast. You got no win the for no no bed boyfriend. Poker has been a staple of this show for years. It's been done by radio. Shows shows all over America indeed in radio shows in Australia and England have done it as well. That's not even a lie. I'm not even kidding about that. So today we bring you the Christmas sedition bad boyfriend poker two hundred dollars up for grabs Lisa. Welcome back to the TJ show. You ready to play. I am Elizabeth. Welcome back are you ready to go. Amrani okay each of these ladies has three stories they start kind of with the with the least biggest defense whatever the low card thanks and work all the way up to their high card. Each story is a card in their hand of bad boyfriend poker. Then we will ultimately determine the winner so Lisa. Why don't you go first? These these are all stories. All of these things happened from the same guy that they were seeing Lisa first card in your hand a bad boyfriend poker bought me Washer and Dryer flooring for my house and lots of other big ticket. I don't on his ex girlfriend's I account so unbeknownst to her she was paying being for all these luxury items for you exactly and a computer from our son win. Did she find out she was paying for all these things it was well. I'm not sure when she found out but we found out together a couple of years after he had no longer been in the picture. Wow Okay so so when you when you go into your own pocket to give people something. It's noble but when you go into somebody else's pocket Elizabeth. I I card in your hand a bad boyfriend poker. He wanted to hang out with his brand so he picks a fight with me and left on Christmas Eve and they didn't come home until Christmas night. Wasn't there Christmas morning. Even though his four year old son was bang with US Komo way so he had his son for Christmas. Not your son his son right. Or you're old. whose own be all excited about what Santa Claus brought and his dad? It was me are we ought to arranging start here poker. Lisa's second card in your hand. A bad boyfriend poker. He had a young daughter that he told me he would go visit every other weekend and when he just didn't visit her when we were together I started questioning facing it. We went out and bought her lots of Christmas present one year including a special necklace that he wanted her to have spent a good bit of money on it and I I found out later on that he had had his parental rights terminated years before and never saw her so. I'm not sure what happened to all the Christmas presents that I spend a Lotta time by so you have no idea where this gifts win or no and the funny thing is I and that his ex wife and his daughter two years after we had Broke it up. Am That's really sad over these kids okay. TV's total recall. podcast you are about to have your mind blown with the conclusion collusion of bad boyfriend poker. The Christmas edition plus what happens when Santa Forgets the details. Do not miss this next. I'm total recall. TJ's as total recall. podcast this is the total recall. PODCAST subscribe nowadays. TJ Dot com the TJ APP or through iheartradio. 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Okay well I was pregnant and the doctor had taken me out of work Had saved up quite a bit of money for my maternity leave and I check the balance on December twenty third and realized that he had gone through thousands of dollars and they account. It wasn't the negative to be fair so we know the amount we're not gonNA say the total amount but it was right well in excess of ten thousand dollars that he had cleaned account. What does she had saved ended up personally for maternity? Leave right so there you are planning ahead knowing that just in case things go bad the doctor makes if you start working in you have all this money saved it to make sure you're OK. Well taken care of and he burns all of it every penny and then what did he spent it on. Oh good idea. It was illegal substances so now for in the third and final card in your hand. Bad Boyfriend Poker. He bought a vinyl siding business. Business and one of my father retired. He talked him into coming to sell some of its pricing services stuff on that was a respected businessman and he got one of his colleagues ex-colleagues to put a deposit down a house the to have the signing done and it was a ten thousand dollar our deposit and the lady started calling wanting to know why nothing was being done on her house and so they threatened legal action and then he ended up having to go live with his sister so she could pay off his bills so he wouldn't go to jail and then disappeared. He was living with her here for a couple of months and he disappeared and no one has seen or heard from him since then including his entire family sounds like a prince of a guy. It also ruins your dad's reputation. His sister ends up paying back the ten thousand dollars and he took the money that he got blew it all and then disappeared. And nobody's seen him since that's correct. Okay Elizabeth Final Card in your hand bad boyfriend poker. Okay so Confront him when he got home that day about the money and check the account balance and he just completely like wigs out and start throwing the Christmas. We had our Christmas tree on the front porch. Huma lived on the river. Say Start taking the Christmas presents and chunking them in the river it and the tree with all the ornaments in the river. Everything because you confront him about the fact that he'd gone through over ten thousand dollars of your money without you knowing it and then I get in the car to leave and go to my parents house and he follows me and my parents house and like Chaz run mail. Okay Okay reamer trash. TJ Lisa the vinyl siding business or Elizabeth whose boyfriend through all the trees in the river which one left the four year old on Christmas morning born Elizabeth. That's the one you're voting for you. I'm GONNA go exactly what I was thinking. Let's just try. Yeah I'll go with Leeson okay. So we have to Elizabeth one Lisa. I'm going with Elizabeth Awesome. Congratulations Elizabeth Badboy Poker. Both of your winners for just having survived these young gotten away from them. Please take some at least take some of that money and see if you can find a class on how to spot a decent guy is the ace and Tj. Total recall podcast. I use a really good one. I know how you feel Christmas Saturday in new begun but Santa Forgot. BBC's he's went around all weekend trying to knock stuff over with air pump the crap out of that league may have broken it even before or BBC's okay that's tough that'd be the worst. Finally that's exactly actually the thing But you know Santa makes mistakes. I mean just because it's magic and came back stakes. Our magic made a big mistake. The biggest. I'm madge John's so even even magic isn't always perfect. Perfect try it. I don't understand this is when we woke up at five. Am to an alarm going off. We had lost power. My Mom told me remember that. Go back to bed and we did and we woke up hours later. Mom told us that Santa Forgot to leave the power on for Christmas. Smith's proceeded to Okinawa. Blue boy we didn't proceeded to open our our presence by the fireplace. And at this point my parents are rolling laughter. Because we'd gotten all these electronics and I got a cell l.. Phone was no way to charge it saying leave power but I miss Bassett while power garage. It was a bad winter. We had a lot of snow. When is okay? But then so. That wasn't bad as Paul. Why are they blaming Sandal boy but to keep everything fresh? They took everything out of the refrigerator refrigerator and put it outside of packed into the snow in their yard that kept everything fresh to they got their power back two days later. I think they have that option. Let's see Jennifer welcome the ACE and Tj. Show what happened when Santa Forgot the details well sometime Fanta which participate price tag healthy. Oh that's all only have like sticker price tag not just bar code but you know. Why don't you go eckerd sometimes or somewhere like that? Grab the little stuff right When when that was When that was happening happened to me when I was a kid it was that Santa had had run out of certain things by the time he got all the way down to Louisiana course? Everything was by the time he gets all the way down here. And so yeah he ed run to Walmart. You go since in sales into Walmart in regular clothes and so they didn't get wreck and Toboggan has so you can see they're pointy ears. You GotTa do what you gotTa do you mean by Tom. He gets all the way down to Louisiana Ceann. He's Oh I mean you could imagine. Thanks John Hart he is Toro tarred war. Flat Out Jamie's Columbia. This is Great Jamie. What is the detail that Santa Forgot when you were nine Cena forgot that? I have an allergy. I'm Tina Eminem in my talking to Santa almost kills me exit. I got to spend Christmas in the hospital and NFL lactic stock holders done better since then. Well how old were you. I was nine and you knew you were allergic to peanuts. Yes okay within Santa was testing you failed. I felt the Naughty Audie list. Yeah I was in the zone you just talking out and descend rap and and yes Santa Cruz. Santa Forgot would realize that our our. When did your parents realize that Santa had forgotten Pretty much when my throat started in closing up it was a few minutes. 'cause they were all kind of waking up and getting stuff writing yeah. That's a great story. Here's here's what I'm unclear because we're just having this conversation off the Air Santa when Santa came to my house and went to Santa comes for my kids what Santa leaves is always unwrapped and sitting out but several people have said one of the details that Santa forgot once it was that Santa Forgot to wrap some presence. I think it's it's a preference I think. If you really like unwrapping he's GonNa wrap them for you because I always just like Brunton in there and CNN because one lady sends the message that said one near Santa Forgot to wrap the presents presence and they were going into the room moms started yelling and they had to go back and wait on the stairs while mom wrap with the gift that Santa had left them to have this small detail. Santa I never got ours was always Santa left unwrapped and anything else it was wrapped came from your parents or family or whatever. That's how you knew what Santa had left because it was always always out there so when the doors open we had these little these sliding door things when the door open boom it was what Santa me you know. I remember the year that against Santa's better judgment and he had his elves. Make the Richard Prior albums that I wanted. I forgot about the TJ total recall. PODCAST is new at noon every day. Subscribe now on I tunes when you look at your current bathroom. 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NPR News: 04-06-2020 7AM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 7 months ago

NPR News: 04-06-2020 7AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. Line Korva Coleman President trump sought to deliver an optimistic message on Sunday claiming that Americans are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel but NPR's Franko Donetsk reports that message from his public health. Experts is very different. President trump express hope that the United States was seeing a leveling off of corona virus cases in hot spot even while some of his top health officials warn the next two weeks ahead would rival some of America's most trying times in modern history. We see light at the end of the tunnel. Things are happening. These are happening. We're starting to see light at the end of the tunnel earlier. Surgeon General Jerome. Adam said on Fox News Sunday that Americans should be ready for a tragedy compared to the September eleventh terrorist attacks and the bombing of Pearl Harbor the administration estimates as many as two hundred forty thousand people in the United States could die from the virus. Franko or Donas. Npr news the number of current. A virus infections in the United States climbed over the weekend to three hundred thirty seven thousand according to Johns Hopkins University researchers so of the deaths more than ninety six hundred people have died here of covert nineteen about a third of the deaths are in New York City alone. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in the hospital this morning after being admitted last night for tests as NPR's Frank Langfitt reports. Johnson has suffered from a persistent fever and cough after testing positive for the virus late last month. Number ten Downing Street said the admission was precautionary in the Johnson. Fifty five remains in charge of the government with Johnson laid up though foreign secretary. Dominic Robb is chairing the government's cove in nineteen meeting today. Meanwhile the Queen gave a rare speech last night designed to reassure the nation. We should take comfort that well. We may have more still to in deal. Better days will return. We will be with our friends again. We will be with families again. We will meet again and again that last line a reference to a famous World War Two song Frank Langfitt. Npr news officials at the Bronx Zoo in New York. Say that four year old. Malayan Tiger has been infected with corona virus. Dr Paul Callan is the Bronx Zoo's chief veterinarian. He says the four year old female likely got it from zoo. Caretaker leeward surprised of course because this is the first time a person has naturally infected an animal. An animal has gotten sick. Six other big cats at the Bronx Zoo also got dry coughs but officials say they're all expected to recover. They say the virus tests performed on the tiger is not the same test that is used for people and it was done in a veterinary school laboratory. You're listening to NPR news. The pandemic continues to afflict Italy. Where nearly sixteen thousand people have died in their latest daily report. Italian officials say the number of deaths is lower compared to previous days. They say the latest daily report of deaths in Italy is the lowest since March eighteenth health. Experts are cautious. They say even with fewer people dying Italy must continue. Its shelter in place. Orders and practice social distancing the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says the sharp cutback in airline flights across the US due to the pandemic he's making weather forecasting more challenging NPR's Lawrence Summers says meteorologists rely on real time weather data from flights commercial planes measure temperature and wind speed millions of times every year. And send that information to Noah forecasters feed that INFO into computer models which gives us weather reports but those readings have dropped by half in the last month. As flights have been grounded the World Meteorological Organization warns that could make weather forecasts less accurate. Noah says it's looking for ways to make up for lost data with cargo aircraft satellites and other sources lauren summer. Npr News Response Teams in Ukraine. Are Battling a forest fire in the contaminated area surrounding the damaged. Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The plant was sealed after an explosion in nineteen eighty. Six firefighters say one smaller fire continues to burn over about fifty acres. Authorities say radiation levels in. The area are far above normal levels. I'm Korva Coleman. Npr News in Washington.

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The Age Question; Coming For Your Guns?; Mandatory Rifle Buyback?; A Father's Mission

Anderson Cooper 360

44:59 min | 1 year ago

The Age Question; Coming For Your Guns?; Mandatory Rifle Buyback?; A Father's Mission

"Good evening the reviews or in after last night's Democratic presidential debate which was watched by millions on television Vice President Biden says it is fair game for opponents to bring up his age but he's also also pushing back and Better Aurora is receiving not-so-veiled threads after he said quote yes. We're GONNA take your fifteen. AK47 we'll get to all that in a moment we begin tonight. The sentencing of one of the most public people wrapped up in this sprawling college admission scandal. The actress Felicity Huffman familiar to television audiences of course for her role in the popular series desperate housewives late this afternoon was sentenced to fourteen days in federal prison. She'll serve a year of probation pay thirty thousand dollar fine and serve two hundred and fifty hours of community service all this after she pled guilty to paint a paying a college consultant to inflate her daughters. Sat scores She's the first sentence of more than thirty parents charge in the largest emissions scandal of its kind in the United States. She told the judge quote. I am deeply ashamed of what I've done. Array indicate tonight has more fifteen thousand dollars. That's what actress Felicity Huffman paid to get her older daughter's. Sat scores boosted long after her arrest she would try to explain she found motherhood bewildering and she was deathly afraid of doing it wrong. Perhaps perhaps it was that fear that land the desperate housewives star in hot water in the JAW dropping admission scandal dubbed Operation Varsity Blues. Here's how it worked act. A man named Rick Singer had set up a sham charity wealthy parents paid in under the guise of donations to obtain fraudulent higher. Sat scores wars so their kids would be accepted to procedures schools parents also paid for fake athletic credentials so their children who were not student athletes would be accepted to the schools athletic team. The fake charity also bribed college coaches and paid off tests supervisors to beef up students answers. Some of of the top universities in the country have been snared in the scandal including Yale Stanford and Georgetown. What one day I won't be able to help you because because I won't be here? According to the criminal complaint Huffman is heard on a recorded phone call making a plan to pay for her younger daughters. Sat scores to be enhanced something she later decided against on the call. She says we're going to do like we did with my older daughter singer response okay so we'll take it with her and for her at egos place at the West Hollywood test center Huffman pleaded guilty to charges of conspiracy to commit mail and honest services is fraud. She admitted paying fifteen thousand dollars for her daughter's. Sat Score of fourteen twenty which was considerably higher than her first score investigators say her daughters answers were corrected by the test supervisor. Huffman is one of fourteen parents who have pleaded guilty or agreed to plead guilty in the college entry bribery Marie scheme a far cry from a mother who wants express she wanted to serve as a role model for her daughters. I want to model for my daughter's being having a woman being a woman of agency having a voice in the world that means having influence having power to tie the truth having having money me and just this week days before her sentencing Huffman penned an emotional letter to the judge explaining the head of the charity had said her daughters math breath test scores were too low for college acting audition Huffman wrote. I didn't want my daughter to be prevented from getting a shot at auditioning and doing what she loves loves because she can't do math Huffman said when the scandal broke my daughter looked at me and asked with tears streaming down her face. Why didn't you believe in me? Why didn't you think I could do it on my own? I could only say I am sorry I was frightened and I was stupid. In support of Huffman her husband who has not been charged in scheme sent a letter to the judge William h macy wrote Huffman now rarely goes outside and their oldest daughter has quote paid the the dearest price her first choice school denied her application two days after the scandal broke Randy K. C. N. In an New York in court Huffman told the judge that on the way to the testing center she thought about turning around to my eternal shame she said I did not the federal prosecutor on the case said quote most parents have the moral compass and integrity not to step over the line the defendant did not oven will report federal prison in late October some perspective now from New York Times columnist Frank Bruni at CNN contributor also with us Paul Callan legal analyst Frank. You've written a lot about the college admissions process. Would you make of this sentenced instead. I think the sentence was a message that things have gotten out of hand because she could have she could have been sentenced to no jail time at all right. The the guidelines were pretty broad and some of them were lenient and I think the judge understood at a moment in time right now where I think Americans are keenly aware of the uneven playing field when it comes to college admissions I think this case was the most vivid symbol of that yet and I think they've got a lot of attention. Not just because celebrities were involved felicity Huffman Lori Loughlin whose cases coming up but because this was such a vivid illustration shen of the fact that the playing fields not even of the fact that parents of means bring a lot of money and a lot of gamesmanship to the college admissions process and so you end up with with a perverted process in which if you are not someone of money if you're not someone who knows all the tricks if you're not someone willing to play the games or your air the coach here behind you're behind the eight ball and now she she went over the line and did something illegal and I think that's very rare. I don't think most parents are paying bribes or engaging in fraud but you know they're giving in some cases millions of dollars to a university's endowment in order to get their kid that that's the jared Kushner Harvard story you know they're paying tens of thousands of dollars every year to college. Admissions consultants consultants to special tutors so they are getting advantages that other kids don't have an I think this judge was sort of making an example of Felicity Huffman and saying this is enough pull to to her credit. She pled guilty and essentially said look yes. I'm guilty. She doesn't seem to be making excuses. Here did that contribute to the relatively relatively low sentence I mean again could have been no sentence at all to present times but it could have also been thirty days. I think it had an enormous impact because when you plead early Lee and you accept responsibility. That's something that makes a tremendous impression on the judge. I think there was a second factor though Anderson this is a case where the defense claimed essentially that the real victim of her felicity Huffman's actions were his own her own daughter. the daughter lived in humiliation Asian after didn't get into college so she didn't rob anybody of a seat in college. So who really was the victim of this crime She victimized her own daughter by making this idiot decision to pay fifteen thousand dollars so the daughter could get a higher. Sat score all of this combined in a low sentence and the judge made this observation when she was sentencing. She said I could have sentenced you to know jail but I want to send a message with this sentence that this is a serious crime and you're going to go to jail if you do it this this same judge is going to be ruling on other cases in the scheme. I wonder if this tells anything anything about how else this judge will rule. I think it does this is really the low water mark probably the best you can hope for a lot of the other cases involve expenditure richer of greater sums of money some have money laundering claims in them and I think there's one parent to expend six million dollars when that gets evaluated waited under the federal sentencing guidelines. You'll see a longer jail sentence franken looking at the college admissions going forward. Is this actually going to change anything so far. It hasn't and I've been really surprised about that. I thought that at this moment given all that's come to light. I thought we were going to see a couple of prominent university. Step up and say you know what we're going to end legacy admissions missions which gives a leg up to people of privilege. We're going to do other things along those lines that are going to even the playing field and I've been sort of shocked to see none of them do that. Now there's still time they may a yet but I think this kind of this process and all of its problems. It's so entrenched at this point. I don't think universities like Yale Harvard Stanford even know how to get out of it. You know in a sense once they were co-conspirators in this entire thing with the not even checking to see if the athletic credentials that were claimed by some of these potential students in started. We're legitimate in any way I mean somebody saying they wanna be on the crew and it never wrote a boat itself well. It's also interesting because they intentionally it seems like singer intensely really kind of picked minor sports or sports which don't get a lot of attention. It wasn't like wasn't picking the basketball team the school's football team it was the sailing team the crew team which don't get the kind of you know is on from any of the administration was happy. They're happy to charge fifty thousand a year sixty thousand years tuition for each student so I think they should be looking more carefully about who they are and the sports flying it listen. I disagree that the only victim here is Felicity Huffman this kid I think the victims are all all the kids who are not getting places this zero sum game when they admit certain students. They're not admitting others I think those are victims and I think the other class of victims are the kids because there are a lot of them who work so very hard to get the slots at these schools and now people are looking at them and saying what did they play. Everybody who's taking standardized testing and you know it's a horrible process. It's awful vaguely. Recall it and I'd try to block it out and I still have nightmares about it sometimes to know that Oh wait a minute this some people have I've been cheating on this. That's Iran's and I think frank you write about this in the larger sense that there are huge number of victims but you have to prove it in an individual the case and that's where it's hard to prove a crime Frank Bruni appreciate it Paul Callan as well still had Joe Biden and the age card like it or not fair or not his mental stamina centerstage. We'll tell you what the candidate candidate and his campaign said today about his fitness for office. After Holding Castro questioned the front runners memory during last night's debate also Texas lawmaker threatening better Aurora after the Presidential Oh can they promised to take away all fifteen. AK47's a live report from Texas on that support for Anderson Cooper or three sixty comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Imagine how it feels to have an award winning team by your side through every step of the mortgage process. It's awesome and exactly what you get with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. 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Marvin wants you to enjoy three of her best thirty minute meals for free go to Marley spoon dot com slash CNN. That's MARLEY SPOON DOT COM slash C. N. In an Joe Biden's mental acuity and overall medical condition something previously whispered about or attacked on the president's twitter feed is now a big topic of conversation in this election. The Democratic Front runner is now promising to move up the release date of his medical records to before the Iowa caucuses and all because fallout from this exchange last night with fellow candidate who the down Castro where Castro question the vice president's memory. You said by qualifier forgetting what you said. Addicts addicts can be what you said just two minutes ago. I can't believe that you said two minutes ago that they had to buy in and now you're saying they don't have to bite your forgetting that Biden's campaign called it a cheap shots they even as Castro contends. This was not a personal attack nevertheless the stories. He's out there for his part. Biden took it in stride this afternoon when asked whether it was fair for his rivals play the age card Biden replied quote shirt is he joked reporters about the questions surrounding rounding health senior medical records to dress what concerns man you wanNA wrestle. We're speaking about last night's debate Biden told donors at a fundraiser today quote. I think I could have done better. I will do better godwilling joining me now to discuss Scott National Campaign Co Chair for the Biden Campaign Congressman Cedric Richmond Congressman so vice president Biden says the age card is fair game. Do you agree look. I think the vice vice president stands by his record. He is who he is and you can't do anything about age so if the American people think age is real issue and remember everything's relative politics the guy that he will be running against is nearly the same age but if the American people think that that is an issue. I think he's willing to address it so I I think it is fair. I don't think how it was played. How was fair especially since the facts were wrong surrounding the exchange do you are? Are you concerned that this is an issue that just going to keep coming up because it's the kind of thing that once people start to think about it or focus on it any time then somebody stumbles is any time somebody gets a word wrong or drones on as I often do it brings the question back up again. It's it's sort of become become something that people watch for look. I do it all the time also I do it for more than I want to do it but I think that it's a slippery slope. I mean I know seniors. my mother for instance will not say if she misplaced our keys because she doesn't want people to think that for some reason she's losing it and I think that we have to be very sensitive about that and so if the facts bear it out and it's something that we can address but look Vice President Biden is very very strong. he is is very energetic and I think he's running a good campaign. It was to to send it out there. In the manner that it was done one I think it was inaccurate. In the way that it was portrayed but to think it was just basic route no manners and disrespectful it is inching that that this even coming up at all given the fact that it's not just vice president who's in his seventies. You've talked about trump but also do closest rival Senator Sanders and Senator Warren or as well. Why do you think it is the Biden is the one on being attacked for his age and not others because he's winning and whenever you're in first place you have to be prepared for attacks from everyone who's not in first place in last last night that was nine other people and I think that that's why the vice president said his fundraiser that he will do better he knows he's going to get attacked? I think that's the good thing about the Democratic Party is that we we leave our morals and our values and so anything that's issue related and for the American people. Let's let me just say this. Anderson people are so busy trying to keep a roof over their head food on their tables clothes on their children's back and provide for their families the last thing they're thinking about our cheap shots in the debate. They're trying to figure out how to beat Donald Trump how to get this country united again how to restore the soul of the country how to love and care for one another like it was intended to do how to be this idea of America. That's what people are thinking about. They're not thinking about who can come up with the best one liner doing a debate so that they can fundraise off of it but from two percent to three percent but people are very concerned about who can actually stand Dan Toe to toe with Donald trump on a debate stage and take what he you know throws out and and give back more someone who can actually beat Donald trump on a debate stage and erase they are concerned about that but all the polls show that we're the only Democratic candidate that's beaten Donald Trump by double digits so it's not a thin margin of victory for Vice President Joe Biden over Donald Trump. He has a large margin of victory right now but let's remember also that he had to the debate a former speaker of the House Paul Ryan and he had to debate former governor Sarah Palin when the stakes were the highest and he he performed very well. They won both elections so sometimes you have to let experience show and by the way since when is experience experience and wisdom a bad thing you know reminds me of the former's commercial I know thing a too because at the scene of two and so I think that he can stand on the fact that he's been there and he knows what he's doing. Our Congressman Cedric Richmond thank you very much appreciate your parents want to bring in former advisor presence and a CNN senior political analyst David Gergen and New New York Times White House correspondent and CNN political analyst Maggie Haberman while the debate was taking place last night the the president and was in the process of taking aim at at Vice President Biden and Elizabeth Warren just WanNa play what he said. I HIT POCAHONTAS WAY WAY TOO early. I thought he was gone. She's emerged from the ashes and now it looks like she could beat Sleepy Joe. He's fallen asleep. He has no idea what the hell he's doing. They're saying obviously if people thought the Hulan Castro said was a low blow it is just a taste of what if there was a those two on the stage Biden and trump There's GonNa be a lot worse than that. There's a couple different things going on in that Castro. Biden exchange exchange one is they seem to be on substance talking past each other. One is the question of the fact that he won't stay that he was in fact taking a shot at Biden's age which is hard to believe since pretty universal appearance of that from everyone watching but then there's the question of his reaction and the reaction of sort of how dare you sir that a lot of his supporters had as you say this is going to be a fraction of what he's going to see on a debate stage with Donald trump who insulted his way through the debates in the primary who insulted his way through his debates with Hillary Clinton and who's already honing his lines so at a certain point you know what you have in front of you is the game you have to play and there are real questions to the point you just made before about whether Biden is the right person to go toe to toe Democrats are assessing that people are thinking about it because of his age but also whether he can take a punch against this president David Richard Turnover saying well look Biden Togan Sir Pale and and Paul Ryan that was a long time ago and obviously we're all older since then so is that is that something you can kind of relax and say oh he's very experienced debater. No no no no. We've all all Saint Joe Biden now debate several times and clearly he is he's still effective a lot of people like Joe and sometimes when he makes gap more as part of his humanity and who he is but there's no question that this is a legitimate issue and a campaign. Am Pain when when you've got a candidate who's in mid seventies just remember back famously and when Reagan was running for his second term and then he had a first debate against Walter Mondale when he stumbled badly on several occasions is looked like he was sort of out of it well the Democrats in went after hammer and Tong questioning you sit in this basically saying he was was senile and he had to have a good second strong debate turn that around with humor as he did and so repeatedly since then fitness for office has has become a question and who is asking more questions today than Democrats about Donald Trump whether he's fit for office just as fair to raise questions about Joe Biden. I talk to the Guy I do. Give credit to Joe Biden today to say I'm GonNa get my medical records out there before anybody votes. It does seem like something a wise thing to do. I though clearly not every president feels that way because from we only saw Dr don't trump's kind of factor Bornstein note right even know how to describe uh-huh apparently he was a doctor of something that is definitely true. I mean look we. We have not seen Donald Trump's medical records. We do get the report from the White House now that he's president but yes I think David raises an important point. I think that one of the reasons Democrats get so frustrated. Some anyway with the criticisms of Biden's age is at end whether he's fully present is that he the person person in the White House often loses his train of thought or you know I remember being in the Oval Office at some point. I can't remember it. Was this your last year where he kept referring to John. Bolton has Mike Bolton so I mean he does get these things wrong and I think that Democrats get frustrated filling like he doesn't bear any scars for that. I don't know if he does or doesn't we're GONNA find find out with voters. David go ahead. I just WanNa make one more point and that is is the right to raise the question of how he's go toe to toe with Donald Trump. That's an important question but the bigger larger issue is is he going to have good judgment. If he's president is he going to be able to think clearly and have have income down and and and really complicated world that's important and you know but trump is operating entirely by instinct and look at all look. Everything is getting all screwed up. You want a person in that Oval Office who can think and think clearly and you buy needs to demonstrate that and I think he'll be put to the test in these in this campaign meg last last night there was a lot of criticisms of items Biden's reaction to the question of the the legacy of slavery and how to what to do now how he ended up sort of saying make sure you have the record player on at night. There were both criticism that he basically veered off the topic and ended up in the sort of very convoluted thing and then also also referencing a record player someone who just happened to a record player in Detroit in the last debate from China there is an argument made record players. There's are coming back but I don't think that's what president would vice-president Biden Vernita record players are wonderful but now I don't think that's where he was going and I and I don't own one but but I do think that that look on the issue of slavery and of this country's relationship slavery I think what Biden was trying to do. Frankly with just not answer the question because the crux of his support in the Democratic Party is these two different currents one is the this conceit that he can appeal to working class white voters which really hasn't been tested and then that he has consistently polling fairly well with black voters. That's why you're now increasingly hearing. His aides say that it's really gonNA COME DOWN TO SOUTH CAROLINA I I. I have a hard time seeing if he gets wiped out in Iowa New Hampshire how the vote doesn't isn't start shifting but I think that's what you were saying. Play their do agree with that. I mean when you hear that they're kind of saying Oh look at Iowa New Hampshire not so important for for Biden. Is that a worrying bring signs. Should it be for people who support yes. They should be absolutely as a red flag. I think Maggie is is is right on target. If if Elizabeth Warren Oren pulls out a victory in Iowa none another one in New Hampshire and she's got a he's got a very good ground game going both stays. She's getting big crowds. ah the binding will be very very much on the defensive and may not be enough to come back in South Carolina David Gergen Mega Evan. Thank you very much next Democratic presidential candidate better Aurora telling the debate debate audience if elected he will take your Ar Fifteen AK47 his words Texas lawmaker respond to what a Rourke says was a threat. We have details. We we see them as foundation the cases we gotta find who wrote this. No we do that. We find the killer. 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CNN Better Rourke received what he and others view as a death threat from Texas lawmaker after this comment on the topic the gun control during last night's debate and in Odessa I met the mother of a fifteen year old girl who was shot by an ar fifteen gene mother watched her bleed to death over the course of an hour because so many other people were shocked by that Ar fifteen hell yes we're going to take your ar fifteen or AK forty seven yeah well now after that comment about Ar Fifteen Texas Republican Briscoe Cain responded to a rock on twitter quote my ar is ready for you Robert Francis which is a better given name a respondent quote. This is a death threat representative clearly early shouldn't own an ar fifteen and neither should anyone else works press secretary told CNN they reported the tweet to the FBI at eleven deras in Dallas with the latest Ed. I know you spoke with this Texas lawmaker. Does he regret sending that tweet he he does not he told us that any kind of suggestion that this his comments were a death threat. is simply trying to manipulate the issue. He says that he was trying to take a a modern twist on the old Texas revolutionary battlecry of come and take it and that was the spirit and what he said and even after a better rourke head tweeted back at him that he shouldn't own ar fifteen he fired back at the former Texas congressman calling him a child and better works campaign has said that this was reported the FBI. I mean has he been contacted. Hey by thirties as far as we know he has not he. We spoke to him a couple of times today. He said he has not been contacted by FBI. He he says that that is clearly a sign that he didn't commit any crime that what he said is protected First Amendment speech and this isn't the first time that this topic is is kind of or this kind of rhetoric has come yeah you know it's really been interesting here Anderson over the course of the last month and a half with the two shootings enes and El Paso in Odessa after the Odessa shooting there was an east Texas state lawmaker who basically came out and said you know they will never change any gun laws like universal background checks and that sort of thing it wasn't as as controversial as what happened today but it really kind of spoke to this pushback on these calls for a gun control legislation but at the same time you have prominent state lawmakers the lieutenant governor here in Texas starting to open up and show some signs of some willingness to accept a universal vercel or portions or a limited universal background check so all of this really kind of speaks to the heated dynamic that this issue is kind of a that we see unfolding here in the state of Texas Texas Londonderry appreciate it thank you now look at these comments playing the larger issue of gun control is twenty twenty political issue when it turned to USA Today calmness and CNN plans Carson powers and former special personal assistant to President George W Bush and Putin commentator Scott Jennings Gray tabby both on your so the comments from Aurora. Don't they just play direct. I mean I know he's got to do do whatever he can to kind of get out of the edge of the stage where he's at right now but don't they just play into Republican hands. It's Kinda. The Senator Chris coons Democrat said today they're going to be played at Second Amendment Rally for us. Well I mean I think that Democrats through certain extent. Maybe aren't recognizing that that things have changed a AH. That's a little bit of the old playbook I would say in the past yes if somebody said something like this would be pretty much dead on arrival in terms of general election campaign but but things have changed a lot where we're having these constant mass shootings where I think people are becoming more and more concerned about this certainly by boxer something that Democrats support and and a good number of independent support as well Republicans don't support it and and they're not going to vote for a Democrat anyway so I think if you want to play it safe then you don't do do that. You don't say what he said I think that if you're somebody who is trying to break out like butto is than than than he has nothing to lose I think if he was to become come the general election candidate. you know this is a this is a risky strategy. That's what I would say. It's risky but I don't think it's the kind of a rival that it used to be also Scott. It's not just on about buybacks. He's talking about. Take backs. I mean buyback is like a voluntary. Oh you you give us your old gun and will pay you for it the next step if that doesn't take the millions of weapons off the street is he's saying we're GonNa take which is obviously I mean I a lot of gun owners. I've friends friends who gun owners and Texas who are legitimately believe and concern that that could happen well for years. Republicans have worried about this when we have these conversations conversations about what can we do about the mass shootings and gun violence. Some Republicans raised the idea that Democrats want to confiscate your weapons when it come and make it mandatory for you to give of your weapons to the Government and Democrats and media types and pundits and so on they come along and say oh that's crazy. These are just talking point us to frighten people and here Beto Aurora is now saying the quiet part out loud which is they in fact do want to confiscate your weapons and there's a real concern among Republicans that it won't stop with this one particular kind of weapon because there's really no difference between it and other semiautomatic but it happens to look scarier but you know that is the only one who is calling for actually talking about taking seeking weapons. I mean some support idea voluntary buyback but they're not few people are actually calling for taking back weapons. I had the volume oh you were on the debate last night and I don't know that anything got as much as applause in that room is when beddoe works said he wanted to come and have a mandatory gun confiscation program I imagined as cursed and there is widespread support in the Democratic Party and I think if they were to get full control of the government there would be a huge push for this and so I think this most people want something I think there are several reasonable proposals on the table but when you inject the idea of this it it reduces the amount of trust in the process and as you know there was already very little trust to begin again with a it's an issue better Roy has certainly evolved as they say I wanNA play some of what he said just last year I mean they are fifteen lot more listeners fifteen's. Why should they have one to be clear? They should have them if you purchase that era fifteen if you own it keep it continued to use use it responsibly. We supported the second amendment. If you own a gun keep young. Nobody wants to take away from at least. I don't WanNa do that it. It is the exact opposite of what he's saying now yeah well I mean I think you know cory. Booker was talking about this last night the sort of empathy deficit that until something happens in your town it's not something that you're concerned about and I think this is a good example of it. You better should have been able to have the you know sort of creativity to imagine what it would be like if if it came to his town now it did come to town and it was a terrible tragedy and now he wants to do this and so. I think that that's that's honestly appears to be what happened. In terms of of what Scott's talking about you know how horrible and scary this would be to have people have to do some sort of buyback mandatory by back with their guns. Look the guns have been ah we we we'd band machine guns. The world continued. We had an assault weapons ban. The world continued so the way they create this this India that it's just just this horror show in the country is going to somehow fall apart. If somehow these weapons that never should have been available in the first place so you know that there would be some sort of buyback I just I just think there was no conversation. Though I mean with the with the assault weapons ban there was it wasn't actual bad. There was no confiscation of existing missile weapons. It was just you get new ones right but but the point is even that now is is something that they claim just even having a ban is something that they won't even and consider and I would say if you're going to ban them then why then why wouldn't you confiscate them. I mean I don't I don't understand it's it's like an and even to say confiscate. We're saying having you know a mandatory. Buyback people in other countries have done this or you come in you and you and you're done and it's brought back. We're going to absolutely be there. Cures and powers appreciate it Scott Jennings. Obviously this is a conversation that we may continue coming up has risen trump changed his tune on vaping after announcing watching effort to ban almost all flavored vaping products breaking news ahead cats. The host of March Band is three sixty five and latest edition podcasts joined by Kentucky Hall of Fame Head Coach John Calipari. You know what's been great about here is we've had guys that are willing the share and they're coming in with an idea that they want to get better that they understand. The culture is theater subscribe to March man is three sixty five now at apple podcasts and spotify pay Howard Beck and I've got Boston Celtics Center in his canter on bleacher reports the full forty eight. I'm going to try to win no matter what that is just in my blood. I'm going to go out. There doesn't matter we have thirty wins. We have zero wins. I'm my job as a god their charter win as much as I can full forty eight is is available each week on the report APP and you can subscribe for free at Apple podcasts breaking news. President trump seems to be to be striking different tone on vaping after announcing debenham all flavored vaping products in a tweet posted this posted this evening he wrote while I like the vaping alternative to cigarettes. We need to make sure this alternative is safe for all. Let's get counterfeits off the market and keep young children from vaping a Wednesday when revealing his proposed ban on most flavored `electronic chronic cigarettes the president said this. We can't allow people to get sick and we can't have our youth be so affected a lot of people think figures wonderful. It's great. It's wonderful. That's one thing I think we can say definitely commissioner. It's not a wonderful thing it's got big problems and we have to find out the extent of the problem so new. It's so new but we're going to find out Kaelin. Collins joins us now from the White House. So how how did we get from those comments Wednesday to this tweet tonight we're now. The focus seems to be on counterfeit products. Yeah getting counterfeit products off the market is a big change from what the President was rolling out there in the Oval Office saying that they wanted to ban the sales of most of these flavored cigarettes including the mint and methanol which is a big one for the e cigarette market who argues those those shouldn't be considered flavors wanted to be able to keep those in stores and when the president made that announcement it kind of startled the market because this was something that we were told by sources was put together pretty quickly by the White House they weren't sure what the level of. HHS was at the beginning of that proposal being put together and clearly the first lady. melania trump was seated there in the Oval Office was heavily involved in this as the president pointed out multiple times but also it's a change from what the president was saying just yesterday when he was leaving the White House and he was asked what kind of advice he's given his own son about it and he hasn't really said that they had told him not much except don't vape and the president said he didn't like vaping so now it's going to be called into question Russian. What is the future of this policy? If any that the president laid out in the oval or there I heard tell me if this is correct that two former administration officials now work for jewel that's true or the level or a former top assistant jared Kushner now works for the company and then someone else left who worked worked in the executive office building next door to the White House also left the administration recently to go work there now the question of what kind of influence those two former staffers have over the president's decision decision here is unclear but what we do know is that before the president made that decision he had been hearing from lawmakers from officials who were concerned about this rise in vaping but after after that announcement was made we're told that the president heard from the people on the other side of the aisle who were saying no you're going too far here with this policy and you're not sure exactly what you're doing in here while you're laying all of this out and just so much that you're restricting by this policy which a lot of people who are in favor of vaping said they believed went too far. It's fascinating in in prior administrations or regular administration's you would go through a process where you listen to different sides before announcing a initiative like he did and then have to backtrack later and say actually we're just looking at counterfeit stuff gala garland's. We'll see where this thing ends up. If it ends up anywhere still ahead while the president has a beef with light bulbs jobs hint has something to do with his Orange Hue according to him ridiculous coming up you wafer the Champions League and Europa League back in action this I dream every match on beyond is hi. Everyone Poppy Harlow here. 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I mean you know that's the kind of integrity he has has in the good news is coop putting the word out the way you just did. It's getting some flow of information. GotTa keep coming because the need is great so that's great to get that out. We have chairman Nadler Adler on tonight. what does he make this press release from Chairman Schiff about this actionable complaint from the DNA and not being delivered to Congress what's going on with impeachment what's going on with guns we have the woman who made that ad with. AOC's face burning up that was shown during the debate last night and we have a representative from the vaping companies companies who say they're getting a bad name taking it all on a Friday night Chris. Thanks very much look forward to that just a couple minutes about seven minutes from now. The president blames lightbulbs for his Orange Glow ridiculous. You might have guessed is next hi everyone. 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I said it you all all don't have the bulbs to report it but I do so trump. We're talking nasty. Politic politically correct socialist lightbulb speaking last night Republican retreat in Baltimore America's next xtop electricity suggested the current crop of energy efficient bulbs are to blame for his own personal gold plated glow the lightbulb people listen. What's what's the LIGHTBULB? I said his story and I looked at it the bulb that we're being forced to use number one to me most importantly the lights no good. I always look orange and so do you. The light is the worst well. This might be. The first time I've heard the president acknowledged that he looks orange he did say and so to you which I mean. No one quite quite has the same presidential glow frankly though I'm glad he did sort of a relief it's like acknowledging the thousand pound Clementine in the room. I mean I wouldn't have ever brought it up myself right onto rhythm. Someone's physical appearance unless it's my own translucent deathly pallor and I can work in the free steely blue eyes but I do give props there president trump for knowledge and seemingly poking. I'm fine it. The orange glow which I don't know if it's okay to say at this point now that he's brought it up but it does seem to drop off without actually making its way all around his neck back or his is for that matter it is I don't know if that's because of those little glasses people wearing a Suntan booth or to spray tanning salon or if there's some cream involved and it does want to put it around the is involved. I personally don't have a lot of experience with tanning. I prefer as I said a ghostly deathly pallor scares off kids and makes my steely blue eyes pop and Yeah I've mentioned steely blue is twice so far true I did once get a spray Tan for TV thing Dr smokey Yeah Okay Yeah I was in a room with snooky yeah okay look daytime. TV You know and did what they told me. I also have gained weight since then which is not fun to see and I really wish they didn't have me where that shower cap. You can't in rock. You can't pull that off just doesn't it. Doesn't it doesn't work. Anyway isn't spray tanning or makeup really the most likely reason the president looks orange. Let's go back to that. I think all this shadow boxing with the Goes Thomas Edison. It's misplaced well. I doubt we're going to be hearing more from his orange about his particular Q. I'm glad he broke the silence. Feel I'm laid out there. I'm just feel like just be done with it now. We are only sick as their secrets as they say and it's not every day or every year you hear president trump making a crack about himself offer you gotta

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Invented Words, Part 1

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Invented Words, Part 1

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Or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to invention a production of iheartradio. Hey Welcome to invention. My name is Robert Lamb. And I'm Joe McCormick and today we're going to be discussing a linguistic subject some linguistic inventions. I thought it would be a good idea to begin with some good malapropisms. I love a good Malapropism And we're of course not above coining one here and there ourselves on the show sometimes So what's a malapropism before we get into our favorite examples? It's the usually unintentionally humorous misuse or distortion of a word or phrase. So usually it's a word or phrase that sounds like what you mean to say but is not what you mean to say for example Jesus healing the leopards one. Yeah they're often used to comedic effect like like you mentioned and Oh sometimes you'll see the ladder this idea of it being a phrase defined as a Mala for a Metaphor Elsa sounds delicious right though we have to stress that mouth for itself is an invented word and potentially amount appropriate them in and of itself. Oh I can see that like somebody who is trying to say malapropism but they got confused and said Mala for right or or just intentionally did it. And we'll get into some of the more intentional acts of this as we go The Sopranos is a great source of very memorable Malapropisms I like when There's part where Christopher multi talks about creating a little dysentery in the ranks Which reminds me of One about scientology. The the idea. That L Ron Hubbard. Had the philosophy of diuretics. But there's another one in the Sopranos where The character little carmine. He's talking about the scene. In a horror movie. And he says it juxtaposes the sacred and the propane or there's part Tony to describes his mom as an albacore around my neck. Oh instead of an Albatross. Very good this is more of a phrase but I instantly thought of the of the big Lebowski when the points out the Jackie Tree Horn treat objects like women the code of the Coen brothers paint with this sort of brushed a lot in their dialogue. I was reading a little bit about this live. Basically I was looking for some more examples of of of malapropisms in the COEN brothers Work and I ran across this senses of Cinema Post by Paul Callan from several years back and he described the Coen brothers use of dialogue as quote the dialogue of wonderful in articulacy at. That's about right now. You'll also another place you see. A lot of Malapropism is the sometimes used as part of racial stereotypes. One example that comes to mind and you see this listed on various Trope websites is The Fisher Stevens role in the short circuits movies. I'm never seen short-circuit. Well probably all right reason to go back to these but these were forced movies about a robot league they become self aware and has a laser cannon on its shoulder and it's like a puppet. Does it do cute robot malapropisms? No it doesn't but Fisher. Stevens plays an Indian scientist. Oh and in. He's this This this This accent and he's he's just bus out a number of these and ultimately it's kind of like this idea the comedic racial stereotype of someone who doesn't have a great grasp on the English language and therefore stumbles into all of these That's unfortunate yeah But the use of Malapropisms in fiction does go way way back like Shakespeare used malapropisms. A Lot The character of dog. Berry and much ado about nothing famously delivers a bunch of these. And they're great dog buries this incompetent night constable. And he's supposed to be. I think a satire on the Amateur Police Forces of Elizabethan Times and a lot of the humor comes through in him giving confused. Orders like He when he's trying to get one of his deputies to apprehend all vagrants but instead he says you ought comprehend all Viagra men and he tells them to be vigilant. I beseech you and then there's a great part later where he claims that a bad dude will be condemned into everlasting redemption with it. There's a there's fun to be had with With with malapropisms right. Because you can sort of you can have your character fumble into something something. A little more articulate than they mean to tell us. Yeah that's interesting. Like the idea of everlasting. Redemption is sort of a cool metaphor even though he just is screwing up words but after this character actually since sometime in the nineteenth century malapropisms have also been known as dog Berry. `ISMs there is another one. I came across that. I'd never read before. But this is the real world so former Texas governor and US Energy Secretary. Rick Perry He. He's famous for the for saying that. Luke's when he couldn't remember something. Oh yeah but also That's not what I was bringing up a on on August. Twenty fifth twenty fourteen. There was an article in the Texas Tribune by John. Reynolds reported that Perry had been speaking to a crowd and at this event he told the crowd quote. We need to look at the states. Which are the lavatories of innovation and Democracy Yeah what what with that. If we were to take that literally wake. What would that mean? I think that's the other thing that part of it too is like even if they're not quite accidentally profound. We can't help a puzzle over it because it will inject a bizarre metaphor mental image into our head and then we're just forced to wrestle with it right now there are also just lots of people making regular everyday speech. We probably do them all the time. Everybody does them one of my favorites. I ran across. Was the idea of all the people who died in the Blue Bonnet plague. Csl that in the notes. And I didn't get it until you said it out loud and that that points out an interesting thing which is there are multiple different ways that people put together Malapropisms Like I was reading a paper. By the linguist Arnold zwicky on classical malapropisms end. Zwicky points out that lots of malapropisms approximations. That come out of our mouth is due to the tip of the tongue effect. This is something we've talked about on stuff to blow your mind before You can go back and find our episode on that if you Google it. I'm sure but the short version is you are failing to call the correct word for memory and by accident. You employ a similar sounding word instead. You can often especially in people who may have been having been alcohol to drink like often words that gets swapped. Start with the same letters or sounds like This databases a vast suppository of information. I guess actually that wouldn't start with the same sound but you know what I mean. Yeah but other times malapropisms have more unique etiologies for example when somebody learns a word or phrase by mishearing yet and then never corrects their original misimpression. I know this has happened multiple times in my life. Blue Bonnet plague would probably be a good example. Here it suggests that somebody heard somebody talking about the bubonic plague but misheard how they pronounced it and then just never got corrected on that. Yeah I think we can all relate to that. We all have examples that in her own life totally But while malapropisms are themselves normal part of speech they go back into the midst of history. Everybody does them and everybody's been doing them for thousands of years probably the name we used for them as a very distinct origin and history and that origin lies with an Irish satirist. Playwright and politician named Richard Brindley Sheridan. Who lived from seventeen? Fifty one to eighteen sixteen. Sheridan wrote a number of successful comedies but his seventeenth seventy-five play called. The rivals introduced the world to a character named Mrs Mala Prop whom another character says is infamous for delivering words quote so ingeniously misapplied without being mispronounced So for example Mrs Mala Prop Kohl's one other character. The very pineapple of politeness and at another point she refers to an allegory lying on the banks of the Nile which we should point out. Gets it wrong twice because the Nile has crocodiles alligators? Oh I didn't even get that one at first allegory alligators okay. I think that joke works better on people who are less obsessed with Crocodilians than So so it seems that most usage of the term malapropism in English actually dates back to this character in a late eighteenth century Irish play maybe all usage of it but of course the name Mrs Malapropism built out of existing words borrowed from other languages like There's the there's this expression mal apropos. Meaning inappropriate originally from the French where it would mean something like out of place or amiss but from the name of this character we now get the label that we use specifically for Malapropisms. Words used wrong in this way and so today we wanted to look at the phenomenon of invented words like the word Malapropism. There are tons of words like this. You know there. There are some words that entered the lexicon from works of fiction or mythology. Their words that enter through deliberate coinage where somebody is trying to create a term for a previously unnamed concept their words that inner through changes in technology and science and culture and we wanted to talk about some of our favorite stories of these words and explore how they differ from other types of words. What does it take to invent a successful word and are there any parallels The invention of a successful piece of technology. Yeah it's a fascinating topic because it's the the world of language it is a world that is invented like all words are essentially invented Well I don't know if I agree with you there because they all do come from human brains but I would say maybe some words could be thought of more like features of the human body than maybe they just emerged from us at some point in history without us trying to find a word for something. That's true the more sort of primal roots of language which will be discussing but but still it's. It's unlike most of the other topics we've done. I don't know if we've done a linguistic episode of invention at halfway. I don't know we say that there are obviously linguistic conventions. All right we're GONNA take a quick break but we'll be right back. The future is closer than you think. Can it all starts in the palm of your hand? You may have heard the news five. G's coming but what does that really mean? How does it impact me in the new iheart series this time tomorrow presented by t mobile for business join hosts AUSE Woloshin and care price as they walk us through a mobile revolution? That will change the way we interact with the world around us from environmental science to law enforcement. Entertainment HEALTHCARE AND TRAVEL INNOVATION IS COMING. Join them as they explore. How this revolution could impact your life and give you new ways to connect and engage this time. Tomorrow is now available on the iheartradio APP. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. What do you think about when you consider the greatest exploration vehicles of all time I would maybe think of the Apollo spacecraft lunar module that sat down in the Sea of tranquility? I might think of the Baathist fear which allowed humans to sink down three thousand feet into the inky black depths off the coast of Bermuda. The Beth's fear is very good choice but it's hard to get your own spacecraft or bathysphere. It's true I've tried you can't and that's why we should consider as an alternative the twenty four to explore completely redesigned and it might just be the greatest exploration vehicle of all time. That's right the twenty twenty four to explore will take you into territory that maybe charted but hardly conquered such as the tangled interstates of Atlanta or la or the winding country. Roads that sprawl between your home and your next vacation destination. Yeah I mean we've all had that experience right where you set off on a road trip and between point A. and point B. Things can get a little tangled. Things can get a little gravelly and it's good to have a dependable vehicle Underneath you at those moments I just recently when I was In New Mexico. This past year took a shortcut or at least in showed up on the maps as a possible shortcut. There was not a recommended. Route certainly through some kind of bumpy ranch. Land that It was it was a great experience exploring through there. But I kind of wish I'd had a vehicle that was better made for it. Yeah I had someone experienced in Arizona as well where suddenly you're on the gravel and it's beautiful but you do feel secure in knowing that you have have equality vehicle underneath you such as the twenty twenty four explorer plus one with with the room with the space the cargo space to haul back the goods if you happen to be just running to the grocery store across your own hometown or you need to grab a few sheep or cattle from the ranch land. Well I guess so. As long as you know you're authorized to do so the all new twenty twenty four explore the greatest exploration vehicle of all time. All right. We're back all right so we'd like to start by asking what came before and I guess in this case we would have to ask. Where do words usually come from when they're not being deliberately coined or invented by somebody? We know that most words are not deliberate inventions Obviously the the deep origins of language. That's a massive and complicated subject Limited in large part to informed speculation since we don't have physical evidence to discover to refer to you know spoken words. Don't leave fossil's And it's too big to address at length today but by studying linguistics within the timeline of history especially with the help of written sources we can learn a lot about how languages change over time and about where words come from and one thing that I think is extremely interesting is that many scholars have noticed important parallels between the evolution of languages and the evolution of species in biology There are important differences as well but just to mention one of these similarities like the living organisms on earth. Many of Earth's languages show signs of having a common ancestor We can show signs of common ancestry and all living things on earth by comparing similarities in the jeans and observing how those genes change over time through evolution likewise we can observe similarities in some words in formations that many languages separated over vast distances seem to share and observe how those pronunciations and semantics change over time and in fact at the kind of strange thing is that it was obvious that languages evolve over time from common ancestors before it was obvious that plants and animals do this Because you know it was obvious because linguists could track these changes through written sources from history. They could see for themselves. How words and usages and whole languages morphed over the centuries. Charles Darwin actually wrote in the descent of man quote the formation of different languages and of distinct species and the proofs that both have been developed through gradual process or curiously parallel. I was reading a good article about this by John. Whitfield and peel. Os Biology from two thousand eight called across the curious parallel of language in species evolution and So whitfield's writing about this subject in In addition to common ancestry and changes to words jeans over time another parallel that Whitfield points out. Is that quote? Their most important components showed the least variation in biology. This means that genes such as those involved in the machinery of protein synthesis so basically something every organism has to do all the time change so slowly that they can be used to discern the relationships of groups that diverged hundreds of millions of years ago likewise the most commonly used words such as numbers and pronouns changed the most slowly. Yeah I thought that was really interesting. I mean other words you can find other words that seemed to persist in fairly stable forms over long periods of time and they very often are common words. You know words like for family relationships words for things like mother and father and for You know things that would be referred to very often in everyday speech whereas it's the more specific terms that may go extinct over time right or face dramatic substations So today more than half of the world's population speaks a language that shares as a common ancestor and extinct. Language called Indo European One Fun example. I was reading about In a nautilus article from last year by seven Jetta Nurtiyas. Ova was about the word honey so of course the word honey is honey in English in Sanskrit. It's in Russian. It's meal and bring it back to English. We have made alcoholic drink made out of honey in Sanskrit Russian and even an English. You've got these links that you know. Words are still basically very similar right right. Another interesting fact from that article A professor of linguistics at New York University named Gregory Guy Talks about the word locks which English of course means you know smoked salmon. You'd have your Bagel with locks but apparently locks is basically the same word as it was in Proto Indo European eight thousand years ago where it was probably pronounced locks and it meant salmon like eight thousand years ago. It's interesting to both of these. Examples are foods. They're things that are concepts that are for things that we we not only conceive off but we actually take into our body. We have such a complete sensory understanding them. Yeah that's an interesting point to things that would have been delicious from ancient times but anyway based on this Biological Analogy I WANNA use an analogy for the purpose of the rest of this episode which is basically biological evolution versus genetic engineering. Most new words that enter a language do so through a process more akin to biological evolution. They somehow arise naturally among speakers rather than as You know genetically engineered you know we. We created a giant Scorpion as a government weapon. Or you know the great b-movie plot then these genetic engineering projects and those would be more akin to what we're ultimately going to focus on the attempts to create a new word on purpose but let's focus on the biological evolution version. I so when languages evolved naturally what happens at the word toward level. Where do new words come from if nobody is to coin them on purpose? Well of course On our show. We've discussed plenty of times if you're looking to invent something new you can always just steal. Something already. Been invented yeah. Most inventions are stealing ideas from other people. And or maybe making a very slight modification So a very common source of new words is borrowing from existing languages. Yeah this these are also known as loan words and one one fun example of this or at least I find fun. I don't know your your mileage may vary but Your worm is one at all. I'm just kidding. That's great rob year. Worms are an example of this now. It's technically a Catholic. That's spelled sale. Q. E. which is a specialized version of this in which the original word in another language is is. It's not just a matter of taking the say the German word for something and using it it's directly translating literal literally word for word. Other examples of this would be brainwashing or Adam's apple but with earworm it stems from German. Or which have originated with the German OPERETTA composer. Paul Linke but didn't enter the popular lexicon until the early two thousands Prior to all this or Verma's were were insects of the order. Dermot Thira ear wigs probably name because well there's one theory is that they have the their hind wings or kind of your like if you fold them out can look like a human ear but the more likely explanation is that you have this old wives tale about them crawling into human ears laying eggs inside your brain fun which of course becomes part of the idea of what is a song you hear and you can't get out of your head. It is kind of like a small insect that is crawled in through your ear into your brain like those things in wrath of Khan. Yeah exactly but really are weeks. Don't do this now. There's no I think they will from based on the research I was looking at. I think they will. Occasionally you can get one in your ear. I would refer back to our stuff to blow your mind episode which I think will be rerunning soon about insects crawling instead of body. Cavities it happens. It can happen but not not to the degree that wives tales would have you believe and not eggs in the brain right no eggs in the brain. We need another phrase by the way. That's a that's unfortunate phrase because who knows. Our wives really saying this sex terminology. We'll just say old folk beliefs hearsay old starship captain's tale yes so English itself is actually composed of a huge number of words borrowed from other languages in. It's just interesting. Terms like earworm right tons of everyday terminology is descended from words that were borrowed into English. Hundreds of years ago English originally was a West Germanic language and these roots are where we get a lot of the origins of common basic short words. That still exists in English today but of other words in English come from other languages. So here's one that I was just thinking about. What do you call the album black sabbath by the band black Sabbath on which the song black Sabbath appears sounds like a trick question? I think the answer is black Sabbath. It's the eponymous album right choice. Yeah but of course if pomace that's a that's a word taken directly from words in Greek. The Greek loan word in English. It means just to give ones name to In in a way it's funny to try to list words in English borrowed from other languages because it would make more sense really detri- to list the words not borrowed from other languages Descending directly from Germanic roots because the vast majority of English words at this point are borrowed by some estimates borrowed words. Make up about eighty percent or more of the language and some of these words have been borrowed for a very long time many came from languages like French and Latin. Hundreds of years ago the big point of linguistic cross pollination. Here is the Norman Conquest of England in the eleventh century. Where Norman French suddenly became the language of government and the ruling class in England? And so this legacy still exist in English day where you have tons of words having multiple synonyms for the same concept And you have a kind of like every day version of the word that comes from old English and then a more formal or official sounding version of the word that comes from the French so a holdover from a time when both languages had to exist together at the same time in the same heads off the same lips. Yeah and the French derivative ones were generally the ones in power the ones with money in the ones with administrative authority so You get like buy purchase by from the old English purchase from the old French where you've got two dead versus deceased dead from the old English deceased from the old French. We've got a wild from the old English verses savage from the old French but that's a wonderful point about the idea that that eighty percent or more of the language is just words that come from other languages it kinda creates the stone soup sort of scenario English itself. Like what what is there. That is not something that was brought in to bulk up the recipe. Yeah that's a great metaphor but then ultimately I mean it gets complicated because both old English and old French into European languages. Meaning that so while you know. Modern English has all these words that come from the French lineage of language development ultimately both languages are thought to come from this hypothetical language along time ago into European so they split off they form different lineages they formed different words the descended from each other and then at some point in history they crossed and then entered each other. It's kind of like a scenario. Where if you have like two films that come out. And it both essentially retelling of the Odyssey or the retailing's of BEOWULF. Or what have you like? That's that's in the genes of the thing and then one sort of steals from the other I like that So another common source of words ending up in a language is words derived from proper nouns. Something that was once the proper name of a person or a place gets drafted into a common word or phrase an example here would be platonic think of a platonic relationship now. Once this was understood to refer directly to ideas discussed by Plato. You're talking about the philosopher. Plato now platonic does not really necessarily call Plato to mind. It's just an adjective right. It just means like you know a non sexual relationship conic one. Another example would be Bohemian. Bohemia is a place. It's in the modern Czech Republic but now the word Bohemian doesn't suggest anything about that place. Of course we still have examples of Of words that this will have a direct tie to their source. Like say machiavellian. Someone uses of it. I don't know I tend not to find examples of people. Misusing it or using it in a general sense at least yet but you can. Well imagine a future or or usage of Machiavellian that really is completely cut off from the original concepts. There's a good malapropism of Machiavelli knows where where somebody's Blake. That's what Prince Machiavelli said. But I think he wasn't a PRINC- was the prints by Machiavelli. Yes actually just thought of another good proper name to common usage Denham. Din Denham originally is like from a day. Neem it's like from a place. Oh I didn't know that. Yeah Okay Well. Oh well it's honest we're talking about products. I mean there's of course. Champagne is another example. Is a great wins. Officially it's supposed to be tied to the Champagne region but it is often just used generically now just a common now. It means bubbly wine. Yeah Yeah but so another thing that A great source of new words in this sort of natural evolution version is back formation. I love this back. Formation is when a new word is born when a prefix or suffix is removed from an existing word in order to create a new one often because people just assume that these new words already exist because of linguistic cues so people create a new word thinking. It's already a word not it's not one so here's one that. I really like the verb lace as in to use a laser. Okay so this is thinking like all right you have. The Terminator was the Terminator. Do he terminates right. With a laser do lasers the heck stuff. Exactly you've got a fire poker. What do you do with poker you poke? Yeah so you've got a laser. The surgeon has a laser. What do they do with it? They lace the patients. I and this is a word now. People use the verb lace all the time it's a but it is a back formation. The laser is not like the word poker. Laser is actually an acronym standing for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation but because of its similarity to these other nouns with similar spelling that end with E. R. Like Poker. He got back formed into a verb. And of course this example also shows another new way. That words are formed acronyms right. Laser was originally an acronym. Now it's not you know it lasers just a word. People don't capitalize little for periods between the letter is right. It's just a laser. I was reading about another fun back formation. This is the kind of back formation known as a false singular and the example. Here is the English word. P really as impe soup So originally the Middle English word was P.'s P. E. A. S. E. And this would be the noun that worked as a singular or collective like the word corn like the word wheat. So you could have a bowl of peace or you could have a single piece colonel. Well because plural words in modern English end in s sounds people began to assume sometime in the seventeenth century that PS must be the plural word for the singular P and then the word p. was thus created this type of origin again. This is the false singular. A similar thing would happen if people started assuming that the singular of Moose must be mu as opposed to Maecenas or of course Moose another one that I really like how about truncation also known as shortening or clipping. This is when new words created by cutting chunks out of existing words so mayonnaise becomes. Mayo examination becomes exam. Refrigerator becomes fridge. Robot BECOMES BOUGHT APPLICATION BECOMES APP advertisement becomes ad. Yeah we also see stuff like bicycle in bike rhinoceros and rhino or a brother becomes bro or Bra. One of my favorites. Also the one that I think is just so. Humorous is when pizza becomes czar of actual humans. Use this or. It's just like Ninja Turtles. But I like the bus it out for Groans Fr- now and again never paid for pizza. Man Here's another one. Blending existing words pretty straightforward. You take incomplete parts of words and smash them together breakfast and lunch becomes brunch spoon and fork becomes spark podcast itself. We are on a podcast that support man to of ipod and broadcast and some would classify this particular podcast as infotainment which is of course a combination of information and entertainment from Hell. Yeah you see a lot of this place. We see a lot of language. Generation is the business world where you have a new product or a new approach it needs new title and these new car new word for this concept and a great way to create a districts crashed two things together and see how they fit or you not info tae okay. One more natural source of new words. Onomatopoeia this is what we call it when a word is formed by sounding like the thing it's referring to so plink Honk Hiss. The word imitates the sound of the concept and I was trying to think do we form. New ONOMATOPOEIA is. This seems like all the ones I can think of have been around for awhile. Maybe we form them less often than some other types of words but I'm sure we must form new ones every now and then I was trying to think of a good modern example and the one I thought of was I'll ping you about that later. So originally and Onomatopoeia from the nineteenth century this would refer to the sound of a bullet hitting metal or something and Ping Because of conceptual or auditory similarities. It came to refer to things. In the communications fear such as like a sonar communications between submarines or between network computer user. Yeah and I would be surprised. If the modern resurgence of Ping in the business world or in the workplace didn't have something to do with the Ping like notification. Sounds in email and chat APPs. They I was trying to think of some more like some recent ones and I was looking around at some examples of Of sort of modern lingo and perhaps yeat is an example. I'm not sure what does that. What does that imitate the sound of a well? Okay well let me define it. I said okay as the kids will use this term these days. According to my sources on the Internet it seems to be either a strong version of yes or to quote throw something forcefully in a specified direction as in isolated a cup of noodles across the room. Yeah consorted I'm not sure I'm not one hundred percent positive that there's any anything to it like to throw something doesn't necessarily create the sound of Yeat but then when you start like trying to figure out how the sound work in your head you know I can has sort of half formulated case for yeat being an actual sound God. We sound so cool right now. I'll have to keep thinking about that. One think about it the next time you throw something across the room. 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Some words just like make them in the lab So sort of going back to the business scenario. You've got a new product. The you need to get out there. You're rebranding another one in need. You gotta call it something Well I know somebody who would have been great branding. And that's the English writer. Horace Walpole. Who lived from seventeen seventeen to seventeen ninety seven And the the term that he coined that everybody knows he actually coined quite a few but most of them are forgotten. The one that everybody knows is serendipity and this comes from a letter that Walpole was writing to a friend named Horace Mann different from the American education reformer. I'm pretty sure I think this horse man was a British diplomat But the letter was dated January. Twenty eighth seventeen fifty four. And despite the magical delight of Serendipity as a concept I have to say the occasion by which he ends up describing it is incredibly dull basically Walpole says that. He accidentally discovered a historical link between two families while he was studying their coats of arms in a reference book. Earthshaking right yeah But he's writing about this process and he says quote. This discovery indeed is almost that kind. Which I call serendipity very expressive word which as I have nothing better to tell you I shall endeavor to explain to you you will understand it better by the derivation than the definition. I once read a silly fairytale. Called the three princes of serendipity as their highnesses traveled they were always making discoveries by accidents and suggestions of things which they were. Not In quest of for instance. One of them discovered that a mule blind of the right. I had traveled the same road lately because the grass was eaten only on the left side where it was worse than on the right now. Do you understand. Serendipity one of the most remarkable instances of this accidental suggests for you must observe that. No discovery of thing you're looking for comes under this description was of my. Lord Shaftesbury who happening to dine at Lord. Chancellor Clarendon found out the marriage of the Duke of York and Mrs Hide by the respect with which her mother treated her at table. God Riveting Right Dinner. How he treated her man. It's it's hard to believe the term really took off at all. You know reading this but it's a great term because it really does describe something. The idea of a happy accident the the occurrence or development of events by a thing that was in a way that's beneficial but that was not intended by the agent. Yeah like when you run into an old friend at a subway on a subway ride and you and you think this is exactly like a one idoki grass at one side of the road. I think something at least in the way I use the word. It's especially serendipitous if it's a situation in which you know in the course of trying to do one thing especially if that thing is foolish or misguided you actually accomplish something different and good a true yes. It's like the foolishness of the original errand that makes something especially serendipitous but according to a post that excerpted from this letter in the Paris review the active form of the word serendipitous was not recorded until nineteen forty three so that's a pretty big span of time and I wonder do intentionally invented words take longer on average to find all of their derived parts of speech. I don't know it seems like they have to have a certain amount of sticking power to just like language is a living thing you know So if if you create a word and it doesn't take off you know if it's someone's out they're not making it happen pushing it into the into the lexicon. How does it ever gain a foothold? Well I think about the fact that when a word feels organic. You're more likely to assume that it's derived to different. Parts of speech already exists dry. You're not making them up when you say them right whereas when a word is something that you're aware of as like an intentional recent coinage you might be more likely to think Oh serendipitous. That's not a word. This is also probably the struggling point for. I think then I could be wrong but I don't think a lot of people are using saw as an abbreviation for pizza Just because it's it's it sounds fake doesn't seem helpful okay. So walpole also provides early written evidence for some other terms though not necessarily always of his intentional coinage when I was reading about the Was Great is from an article in the new republic by David Crystal. That's all about terms for drunkenness. In English a lot of these are forgotten okay In this term comes from Walpole the term is mucky bus meaning drunkenly sentimental which is a good thing to have a word for right like you know. I love you man. No I love you man. Marcus sounds a little bit like sake bus too. So it has this kind of like demonic of quality to it as well of the of the will being overpowered. Would you believe that this word comes from a dinner party? So it's an anecdote that Walpole shares in a letter to George Montagu on April twentieth. Seventeen fifty six. Walpole says so. He's at a dinner party. He's having supper he over. Here's somebody named Lady Coventry saying that? If she drank anymore she would become mucky bus and then somebody named Lady Mary Coke Asks What that means in. Coventry says that it was Irish for sentimental crystal writes quote the mock. Latin ending is known from other facetious. Eighteenth Century Slang formations. Such is stinky bus But there is no obvious connection with the Muck Lady. Coventry came from Ireland. The likelihood is that Walpole miss heard a genuine Irish word. Perhaps and here. I'm going to do my best with an Irish word here. Maureen Yuck Which is spelled M. A. o? It H. E. A. C. H. Ireland. Get it together come. Walk the okay. I think it's marine. Yuck and it means sentimental the I should say crystals article also mentions a bunch. Of other terms for drunkenness including my new favorite Not Alone word not a new coinage classic Anglo Saxon Word which is sime Belghoul meaning want and with drink feasting also sounds demonic in nature which is perhaps fitting I went to the black Sabbath and became sime. Belghoul about serendipity though actually got me On the subject of another invented word that. I really like that comes from the American philosopher. Daniel Din it. And it's his concept of a deputy. I think we've talked about this on stuff to blow your mind before But I read about this idea in digits book called intuition pumps and other tools for thinking me. I remember US discussing that. So a deep IDI is a special kind of equivocation. Of course equivocation is A word or phrase that's used in two different ways to misleading effect. So you might say like Why would you read all the arguments for and against dentists theory of consciousness? Isn't there enough arguing in the world right? People people say stuff like this all the time it hinges on two different meanings of the word argument in one sense. An argument is just explaining why you think something's true in another sense it means like angry your acrimonious okay. So so that's an equivocation. Generally at deeply is a specific kind of equivocation You'll probably recognize immediately from your life. It's a statement that can either be interpreted as true an utterly trivial or profound obviously false. Okay Yeah But it but it takes advantage of like the good halves of both of these versions so an example would be if somebody says. Love is just a word so either. You're talking about the word love. In which case the statement is true but it is a banal truism in doesn't okay so what yes. The word love is a word. Or you're saying that the feeling of love is itself nothing more than a word in which case the statement is stupid and nobody would bother paying any attention to you. There was Want to say Umberto Eco. Wrote something about or I can't remember if he wrote it or quoted about some some some treatment on the on the rose saying like the first person to make the statement was quite possibly genius in the second person to make. It was an idiot. Oh was he talking about nominalism? Though with William of Autumn in the name of the likely so but yeah it was it was from. I WanNa say it was from the introduction or the The afterward to the name of the rose but it's been washed. I've read that. Well I mean I guess another thing that's true is like with any statement even and obviously stupid one with enough effort. You can find something that that might be true about it right away of interpreting it or if the the actor reciting the line is skilled enough. It can seem a lot more profound than it is and you can be like. Oh Man Yeah. Love is just a word. Just heard Benedict cumberbatch. Say it hardcore right. It's totally different. Brian Cox could say and then they'll be like oh he's right but if it's the actor who plays. Badger on breaking bad different story entirely right in fact that love is just a word is a great example. Because you can make tons of deep unease with the ex's just a y formulation. Lots of them are like this one example that we thankfully here a lot less of than we used to like ten years ago. This was everywhere. You looked evolution is just a theory over the sun so hinges on two different understandings of the word theory. One interpretation of the sentence is true but trivial. Another interpretation of the sentence. Where theory means something like unfounded. Speculation would up end all of modern biology if it were true but is patently false. Yeah Yeah I it does. That statement does tend to hinge on misunderstanding of what theories are and what role they play in our understanding of the world. Other things are not quite as obvious as deputy field vaguely. Deputy Ish one that I was One that I came across. His beauty is only skin deep. Like in one sense. This could be saying. Physical beauty is only physical which is true but not very profound or it could be saying. Beauty has nothing to do with transcendent qualities like morality or character. In which case is that true like? Don't we often find things beautiful? Because they're morally good or thoughtful or meaningful. Yeah depending on how you interpret. It could mean one of to destroy medically different ideas and the sense in which it is. Obviously true doesn't really mean anything. Yeah I noticed in the real world deeply is often shoot by you real fast. They tend to be the kind of thing that somebody doesn't just say leave hanging but they say and then move on from talking very quickly like they can sound good for half a second if you don't stop to think about them but I was also thinking about deeply is interesting because there's something about the way the word sounds that was clearly part of the selection process for attaching this word to this concept like Originally didn't it says that the word was coined by a daughter of a friend of his or her name is Miriam wisn bomb and originally she had been at the dinner table. Sort of like Lightly mocking her father for some kind of kind of overly ponderous thing he said and then didn't heard this word from her and then reimagined it because of the the sound of the word fit so well with the concept that he wanted a word for And it brings to mind the concept of idiot phones which we exploited on an episode of your mind. Basically the idea that certain Syllables and words sounds in our in. Our minds are naturally widely associated with with concepts such as physical textures. Like there are words. That naturally sound slimy to us or have certain kind of moral connotations to us. That are just like totally apart. From semantic meaning right. Yeah you often see this in the the names of fictitious characters part of this is we've been on a Harry Potter kick at the House and so a lot of the the names. The Jackie Rolling uses. You know I feel like they. They line up with this rather well. You know like a snake you know just it. It drips I it. It feels and sounds like the it is it his slithering yeah slithering itself exactly. Yeah but I mean it. There is something going on here. I think if you're not building a neoliberalism entirely out of root words that have semantic meanings thing to go with like malapropism where that's built out of root words from another language that have some kind of meaning already. You wouldn't be able to tell what DP means just by looking at the word right right. It doesn't doesn't have a semantic suggestion unless you've heard it explained to you or hurt it. Used so to what extent does possible IDIA PHONIC RESIDUE? Guide the choice of words being linked to concepts like that. I mean thinking about it in my head. Idi deep not the IDI part of it somehow. Sounds like the concept to me what brings to mine itty bitty it brings a month's smallness so it's like a small small depth but it like that's kind of a stretch. It's not there's no. You can't really get there by analyzing Actual Grammar Right Right. Because any bitty bitty even in Webster's I don't know it's very much sling itsy-bitsy. I'm not even sure where that comes from itty-bitty I don't know yeah. Deeply just in terms of in examples of have invented terminology This is what I was thinking about recently. Oh that's great because when you when you hear it. I mean it's composed out of out of the Greek so you. It's easy to assume that this has been a very long time but it is more like Malapropism in that it's built out of routes that do have meanings that you could identify. Yes because clearly. It's drawing from the popular use of say astronaut which means starsailor cosmonaut universe sailor. And of course you have the the argonauts Greek myth were simply sailors in the vessel Argo but psychot- when I was looking into it I was thinking okay. This term must have been around during the sixties and it apparently wasn't the term is widely used now but it didn't seem to emerge until German author Ernst younger used it in one thousand nine in one thousand nine hundred seventy and it was subsequently picked up by various occultist and ethnobotanist. And now it's become you know. Sort of a standard and really quite useful term for describing various twentieth or twenty first century individuals. Like say John C Lilly or Terence McKenna people who were explorers in the realm of the mind? Yeah Yeah but also to get also drawing in that sort of astronaut Motif of one of one who goes out by going in and then Joe. I know you want to discuss the Fatima user. This comes. This is one of our favorites. It's come up on stuff to blow your mind a lot So the demise are is something that was coined as a joke in Gary Larson. Cartoon it refers to the arrangement of spikes on the tail of a Stegosaurus And it So there's Gary Larson. Far Side cartoon where a caveman is apparently teaching a class and it's pointing to a picture like a slide projector slide of one of these things and says now this end is called the Ghimire after the late. Fags Simmons which is wonderful. Yeah so so. This was eventually picked up by actual paleontologists who found this hilarious because prior to this he didn't have a name for the spike. Tao's just the spiked tail of a stegosaurus. Or some other type of Stegosaur and when you when you start breaking down how Vaga miser would even work as a word in crazy because okay we have thad fags. The name of the Caveman victim of dinosaur proper noun there right and but then we come to a miser. Oem Is Er and this is just nonsense because yes you do have some English words. That end with arm eiser. But their words like randomize her economisers customized atomised and these all our root words that themselves Indian arm like Adam and then we get atomised there. So where does the arm come from in Tagum Eiser? The eiser part makes more sense. Because I guess it's Kinda like with tenderizer that brings us. Dumb is so if you allow us to further Entomologists here okay. It is just an old suffix long-established suffix that The turns That allows us to make a noun or adjective into a verb. And then this can in turn be made into a noun so I just Anthologized I am the etymology which is not a real word but could be okay extrapolate into and you could follow the trails back to real words faggot miser. If we are stretching would at best mean a thing that turns one into FAG. Symon makes no sense and yet at the same time. The joke still works like clearly a work it was picked up it because an unofficial name for this part of the dinosaur official now. Is it official? Oh Yeah I mean. I think it's used in scientific publications. Yeah well sounds good enough to me so clearly. It works when we hear it even though it doesn't when you dissect it linguistically it's just nonsense but but we buy into it. I guess fabulous perhaps atomised or tinder rise by the spiked tail. And you know that is weirdly relayed in the term Vega miser even though it's kind of a distorted echo of actual language. Unfortunately I think we're GONNA have to call it here for today. We're we're running out of studio time. Yeah no yeah but yeah we We will be back with part two of our series on invented words here. I'm having a lot of fun. Yeah yeah this is This is a fun one. I liked this journey's going because eventually we can even get into the realm of invented language in the meantime if you want to check out other episodes of invention find us wherever you find podcast wherever that happens to be. We're there we're somewhere in there. 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S2 E7: Green Eggs and Scams

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S2 E7: Green Eggs and Scams

"Lavar Burton and I'm back with another season of my podcast. Lavar Burton reads. I'm reading stories by the best and brightest writing minds out care authors like Neil gaiman and can lou in K. Jemison and you get to experience a whole story thirty to forty five minutes so join join me for Lavar. Burton reads subscribed today. Just tap the picture on your screen or search Lavar Burton and asked me to your favorites previously on the dream Because enough SCIENC- words the people who don't know anything about quantum mechanics will assume that must be some science behind which ignores so much basic rudimentary biology and in quite basic quantum mechanics. The it's ludicrous. And you have people tricks because they assume that like an. MRI machine is quantum mechanics mechanics. Concentrate and uses quantum mechanics so there must be something in these oil. The old shoes is going to mechanics when there isn't there's just nothing there. It's just a lie We can't talk about wellness without talking about this one lady and her inspirational waller than you'll ever be lifestyle warning she's edgy. One of her friends is a rapper. She's fought the law and the law won and she swears the Fuck Outta Shit. Yes Ladies and gentlemen. I'm talking about the daughter of Blythe Danner and goddaughter of Steven Spielberg Gwyneth. Paltrow who has risen from the opposite of obscurity to become the host of her very own brand new streaming television program the GOOP lab. So what happens in a workshop. Everyone gets off. Aw Fuck are you doing you try to do. It gives ideas that may seem out there or too scary scary ready to go out in the field and make a rock. It's just another day at the office. I A- access to them. Oh Wow it's unregulated Chevy scare here one time I'm one life. How can we really have milked the shit out of this before before launching her website goop in two thousand eight? Paul was a wealthy actress and a mother married to a wealthy Rockstar. In the early days of Goop it was mostly a blog and not and yet the Amazon of wellness. It's become and one of the early features on that. Blog was a day in the life sort of thing. Gwen of described the genesis at this idea quote and one of our readers emailed goop about finding a good balance between having a career and being a mom which got me thinking about the other extremely busy working mothers I know and what their day's as might be like. I asked some friends how they do. The mothers special everything all at once and quote when it published a diary about how how she does it all and it's maybe one of the most unrelatable things I've ever read starting with how her toddler wakes up after eight. AM quote I. I went up to rouse the little man from slumber and he quite happily got up and crawled into my arms. Got Downstairs and I made him a quick breakfast of eggs and toast followed by a spoonful. All of lemon flavored flax oil that I try to remember to give him every morning then she takes the kids to school and when all was well. I dodged off as fast as possible possible but was still late to my nine. AM workout did dance. Aerobics for forty five minutes. Then all of the butlers and the like rushed upstairs to have a shower our doing my post workout stretch while the conditioner was doing. Its magic on my hair to combine activities slash. Save Time Okay so her nine nine. Am Jim appointment nine. Am that she was worried about being late for was in her house. Got It very helpful for busy working. MOMS out out there with close out her day by putting the kids down to bed but not before quote the kids indulge in a super sugary cupcake before bed. But I don't feel too you bad because they had a brown rice. STIR FRY for dinner with a baked sweet potato on the side. It's all about balance exclamation point. This is the unattainable aspirational aspirational talk. That launched a thousand influencers and a collection of wellness products sold on Goop. That run the gamut from silly a candle that says it smells like when let's for Jonah. Hopefully only while it's burning and not you know like right after you blow it out to more dubious items like a sixty six dollar jade egg that claim mm to balance hormones and regulate menstrual cycles. If you shove it up your who. Ha- here's Gwyneth pitching the Jada egg on Jimmy Kimmel in two thousand sixteen. The day is is an ancient Chinese practice where women insert the jade egg in their lady. Part right and to help tone the pelvic floor. How does it help do that? I don't know I need to start. You've never been on this website before have you. Yeah did you sell the lot of. We'd sell tons of them and they're women who are really good at practicing this and they say that it's good for for balancing hormones and all kinds of amazing benefit. Yeah Yeah and the best part of it is going to be up in the corner. It says item is non-return the jade egg wasn't an isn't the only thing worth your side. I on their website. Enough sketchy claims have been made on Goop to inspire academic academic research into the company. One study comes from a team at the University of Florida. My name is Amanda. She does. I am a health communication scholar at University of Florida. And you wrote a study. I did along Research Team. We analyzed all of the articles that were published under the health. Tab of the Gupta. Say so she has a section called wellness and then under that there's like health specifically So we looked at all the articles that have been published from the founding of the site up to the time of our analysis which was in the fall of two thousand seventeen. How many articles was that? Two hundred and sixty five articles. Total all had been published But as we reviewed them we ended up taking out sixty-five event either due to they weren't relevant and there was a couple about relationships or or things like book reviews so we wanted to specifically look at the health advice that she was giving so we ended up with two hundred. And how did you come up with this idea. Ironically from another podcast it was a bone which has a physician and her husband talk about different medical all claims and they did a bonus episode and they happened to talk about the Jake. PALTROW had been selling and talking about how it's really bad for you and it can give you toxic shock syndrome. But she's still selling it and it's sixty dollars and I thought that was ridiculous so I wanted to look at all of the other things that she was saying. We did the analysis structure at the matic analysis. Where you kind of look at? What are the messages that are coming forth and all of these articles what are the patterns but we also did another other study where we compared the articles to this criteria from health news review? It looks at all the different claims. And like what's the quality of evidence. What are the types of experts hurts that they have on there are they? Just use long touring. What are they using their evidence and those sorts of things? What does disease mongering? So that would be when you are creating creating or exaggerating prevalence of a disease. This is from an article on food. Intolerance okay the articles caused define the Diet. Hi it she says. A shortlist of symptoms that could point to food intolerance includes stomach pain reflux ear infections. Frequent illness red cheeks ECZEMA joint pain frequent diarrhea and constipation asthma temper tantrum. Fuzzy thinking fatigue headaches failure to thrive excessive gas ask sleep disturbances so anybody is going to have. At least one of those I have a failure to thrive so and then the talk about your thesis and the big question that you had in this study you know. There's a theory of social interaction. Para social relationships certified as relationships between media users and media figures that resemble typical social relationships. Even though there's no social interaction happening the users viewing the celebrity as a friend. They're viewing it like they would be a regular social relationship and in order to maintain or enhance that connection they will adopt celebrities values beliefs or behaviors to try and make them feel closer to them. And there's a lot of studies that show that it does have an impact on health behaviors specifically typically with Magic Johnson when he went public about his HIV diagnosis it change the way people thought. HIV and it changed the way people perceived the risk of contracting attracting HIV for heterosexuals with Angelina Jolie when she published her op-ed in May of two thousand thirteen about getting a preventative mastectomy he there was a twofold increase in referrals for breast cancer testing from May to October that year comparison to that period and this year. I think it's a bigger issue now than ever because I looked at this another paper with Irie within the context of sports and the way that we have access to these figures lives social media is so differential when all of these original studies are being done in. These ideas are being developed. That I can't even imagine how much more potent it is. Now that you can have complete access to this person's life and be like you really really know that and it's not like a mental disorder. It's just a regular human behavior behavior. Yeah definitely there was something. They noticed that first they were like Oh this must only be in people who are lonely or people who have deficiencies in their actual social interactions. But that's not true at all it's all of it can happen to anybody and it happens a fictional characters as well we talking. uh-huh oh my gosh. I'm GonNa comment on your podcast. Yeah it started one of the first studies about it. It was looking at how people related to characters in the television program in Israel and like the way that they view these characters as their friends because they reminded them of their your friends and so that's when they first started to sing it so it it really does have an impact on health behaviors specifically. So that's how I decided to look at it because I wanted to see what she was saying. And and if people who paid attention to her and listen to her and had a relationship with her in their mind it might affect some of their health behavior. AMANDAS team found that to be true. You know Duh. When Guan says she does something we do it but more interesting to me was another part of our study? A more nefarious finding so group is a contextual commerce brand meaning that the editorial sections and these sales section are are merged which kind of puts it in a journalistic Gray Area Jessica. Alba's honest company brand is conjectural commerce and right the stewardess and sexual commerce but I think the fact that this is happening in the health round is bad so this isn't a hundred and seventy three of the two hundred articles you looked at Fifty five percent or send them directly to an item for sale mile and I think it would be if he did it today. I think it would be even higher because the period that we were looking at was before there was a group store as well. Duke has done a bit of a redesign recently. And we'll talk about why in a bit. They were forced to but there are many avenues. You can take to find in both information and products by. You could click on the shop tab. Of course or you could click on the health tab or wellness or detox and find articles articles tagged read and shop essentially taking you back to the online store whether you want to go there or not. Fasting is very trendy right now and it's been written about along goop if you're into fasting. Just don't eat or whatever or go on go on. Its website read about the benefits of fasting and various articles. And and before. You close the TAB. Don't forget to buy a five day. Fasting Mimicking Kit. They're selling to quote. Take the burden out of fasting for only two hundred and forty nine dollars for less than a week's worth of not actually food for one person and the ones that didn't link to a specific articles. You know they might talk about a specific sauna that Gwyneth was going to in New York or a specific type of reflexologist or Reiki healer. Or something that would come talk about their services in the article. So even if it's not linking directly to a good product it's directing you to some things product placement. Yes I used to be a beauty blogger and We got into some health stuff on different blogs I worked at the hairpin and Jessie Belle and we were morally orally and ethically obligated to put advert Oriel content. Anything he did linked to a product. We had to headline it as such like a needed. A very distinct disclaimer. We would get advertisers though would say we really want you to like look get our skin cream or whatever and we'd say great. We're broke this month. I can do it but it's going to have this word on top of it that says advertisement written by Jane. This is an ad. Don't get it twisted. That doesn't happen on goop well. It's it's really strange. Because that is there some of the articles so she has a partnership with Tropicana et one point And they do a bunch of recipes. She has another one Tropicana. Hannah like picture of health of sugar added concentrated your old orange juice okay. So she yeah and she had another one with bare minerals as well but the ones that are connected to her site. I mean she really doesn't talk about it. There's a series of articles when she first launched her brand of vitamins So the prepregnancy detox vitamins. The the high school jeans where it's supposed to snap your metabolism back to high school when she first launched she got different articles series where she talked about them and then it didn't really say it was was an abbot at the end. I think it was kind of clear that like this is designed to lead you to the vitamins in addition to disease mongering in addition to trying signed cast as wide a net of possible of symptoms in the hopes that they'll land on one that resonate with and you'll think. Oh my gosh I have. You know. I've seen bar or I have adrenal fatigue which are two diseases they they did major issues on they also tried to make you doubt conventional medicine. Listen so this is an article about the rise of chronic lyme and what to do about it and group says. I don't blame doctors that they don't have the time to spend enough time with patients shoots and treat them properly but this is the face of medicine today. It's a checklist system. That creates a game of ping-pong. Tell me your symptoms and throwbacks in medicine and it's getting worse and worse. Does this remind you of anything. Remember a few episodes ago when we were talking about hospital. Births versus home births. The Home Earth proponents argued that doctors are on a clock. And they'll put you on that clock enforce you by the nature of their business because it is a business to make decisions. That aren't good for your health. But are good for their bottom line and the doctor we talked to essentially said what in the world. That's not what doctors are for. GOOP is muddling around in that same argument and stands to make maybe a lot more more money than your doctor. Would by selling you something that your doctor wouldn't so who's lying. Who's got the agenda? So then they push a lot of alternative treatments all these these are kind of internet connected with each other. So there's an interview that gwen escape that was published on the health site. That said you know there might not be board certified physician Doing Double Blind Studies. He's they can lay out their results in the same way. The empirical evidence is anecdotal for the stuff. They're talking about. But you'll have people who are really resistant to the idea like it's better to be on five prescription corruption drugs than to maybe cut gluten out of your diet so kind of trying to say that we're pushing things that other people are not thinking of worthy of outside of the box and that's why you should buy are sixty sixty dollar Jada innovators and they're not part of the pharmaceutical industrial complex. Great they just ninety dollars custom vitamins. That are supposed to make Fit into your team from high school from high school by the cavalry cheese. They were very cute at the time. You couldn't pay me enough to put them back on so okay were there any other examples of yes. There was a lot of focus on eating clean being cleaned a a lot of recipes and things that they were selling that had to do with detox seeing they were selling these prepregnancy taxes so they said stuff. This is an article about the the importance of the prepregnancy detox They said the toxic load that we've built up prior to pregnancy can have an impact on our children. We also know from quote washout studies which look look at what happens with someone from conventional organic food that just in the span of a few days we can eliminate significant amounts of toxins from our bodies particularly herbicides and pesticides sides. We can do with our food and that's lower systemic toxic level. So I'm without this detox not only. Are you have all these herbicides and pesticides Patrick actress. But it's also going to harm your baby. Which I think is just another level of manipulation and that goes into one of the biggest things about group is that portrays as Paltrow? Is this ideal this decayed woman. WHO's focused on her health? WHO's all about helping other women? But at the same time they're posting all these articles rickles about anti-aging and different ways to help you with weight loss and it just kind of. It's such a contradictory message to me. That women should be taken care of themselves as long as what that also involves looking like one altro. Yeah we're the only ones that are listening to you because women are not listened to in the medical system but we're here for you and by the way Fat Yeah exactly. There's nothing more discerning than the site of love handles spilling over your pants or punch belly from Google article. So how can you have both of those things on your website or shaming women for getting these actions and not being able to he'd at the same time as you're trying to say that you're the only outlets there for them. You're the only people who care about them or listening to them. We're GONNA listen to you. Your doctors aren't listening. It also remember nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels except for this protein powder. I'm about to tell you. Can I tell you one more weight loss quote that I just love it. The Greenwich House was talking about herself. Here you know. Sometimes she'd signed the articles. GP's her versus the coupe team. But she says in January two thousand seven. I decided I'd had enough of my saddle bag in post pregnancy. Shar-pei like stomach Gwyneth paltrow. You're the one who can't get address address tailored for an awards show small enough to actually figure frame ever chamber either. I mean like whatever she looks like however she looks and we Paul Callan. Thank you for doing this this work. Actually it's really important so thank you that para social interaction theory that Amanda is studying. What's driving the success of all wellness? influencers answers like Courtney Kardashian. I know from my body like I need four to five days a week. 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Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire. Hey all I'm kristen and I'm caroline and aware back with some brand ran new episodes of unladylike the show that finds out what happens when women break the rules. This season we're talking scams sobriety egg freezing how to quench wench our thirst. y'All mentioned someone who I from a very young age had thought was hot. The hot at Fox and Disney's animated Russian Right Fox. y'All stay tuned. We're trapping a new episode and exciting personal facts every Tuesday. Don't miss a single one subscribed to unladylike now. Wherever you get your podcasts? So back to that Jada Egg. You might have heard about it in the news this past year because goop was sued sued for violating FCC regulations around deceptive advertising. Unless you have really really good scientific evidence you can't say a piece of rock can treat prevent or cure anything so goop was sued because of this woman. My name is Bonnie Patent. And I'm the Executive Director of truth in advertising or Tina Dot Org for short. And can you tell me a little bit about your work about what you guys do. Yes so we're a small nonprofit based out of Madison Connecticut and we worked out stop and prevent deceptive advertising and we do that in a variety of ways by edging catering consumers about it and and also by bringing legal actions to the attention of state and federal regulators to stop the deceptive marketing practices of companies. And and if you had a pie chart of like what sorts of businesses or industries you end up looking at due to the number of consumer complaints. You got what would that Pie Chart Chart Look like the largest segment of the Pie. Chart would probably be the wellness industry and within that You might see multi you level marketing. And they're also but yeah. Wellness is a huge area for us. Can we talk about the case. I think that's the one that most people have heard of you've for your day right and then did for your. Jj was like all kinds of stuff. I think right I mean we laugh about it but you know it. It really was preying on key. People with with really Gut wrenching issues and problems. You know saying that it could fix fix uterine prolapse. Oh my God Help with infertility things that you know just so much taking advantage edge of Of Women I mean that's what I thought of the first time. I heard that this thing was out there is like I got I hope. No one who's got a real terminal. Illness is doing this instead. Ed Rape but the the problem with Google. Although you know people like to talk about the Jada is we found fifty different products. That goop group was marketing. There were making illegal disease treatment. Claims right so it. It wasn't just that egg. It was oils in crystals still and clothing and beauty products. The best is stickers. What yes they had stickers that They they promoted promoted as having Certain health benefits so you guys brought the case to a California court. We didn't bring it to to a California court where we brought it was to a group of district attorney from different counties within California uh-huh and they took action against goop and Required them to pay one hundred forty five thousand dollars in civil penalties. He's and more importantly from our perspective was that they have to refrain from making any claims about the efficacy of facts of of any of its products unless they have competent and reliable scientific evidence to substantiate those claims. We're looking into a product that was sold on Gupta. The company called Moon Juice. I yes are you familiar. I'm familiar because I read an article. Would that take a look. Look at Alex Jones Info Wars Goop. And I think moon juice and the similarities between all their products amazing what are those similarities. Don't they basically emf award. And Google and moon juice are all selling selling the same product. It's just two different audiences so selling adapt agenda Toko trine. All's well of course. I know that sounds crazy easy. But it's true. Alex Jones the most seemingly royd raging of the alt-right conspiracy theorists. He who claimed that Sandy Hook was a hoax. Also oh cells attritional supplements containing some of the same ingredients as moon juice and gook products dried mushrooms and go gee berry and turmeric though to a different customer race. His product was not called beauty dust but caveman troop halio formula. That caveman stuff was taken off the market. When it was found to contain high levels of lead Alex Jones Gwyneth Paltrow Amanda Chantal? Bacon are far from alone. Just look at any Kardashians instagram. There's a lot of that going on with INSTAGRAM influencers instagram models and Tummy tea. And what does the other thing made do with the binding. Oh yes the waste trainer Laz training. Right and Tommy T do you guys have you looked into those Elliott. Yeah yes you know. Flat Lack Tummy. Tea is is really out there on instagram. And one thing we found is that they're using very young social media influencers young women under the age of twenty one under the age of eighteen athletes dancers to promote Mo- you know basically liquid ex lax and not only are they having these young influencers do it. But in many any instances they're deceptive ads because they don't tell the audience that the reason I'm promoting this laxative t is because I have a material connection to the company. So it's liquid ex LAX. Yes I I wondered what it was ever tried to dame ingredients is ex lack. Yikes but they don't say that of course no so. What's the most outrageous claim you've ever seen in in this world of wellness? Oh my goodness there are many products out there and especially supplements that are miracle. Oh pills and those are the ones. They're the craziest that not only can occur. HIV and cancer diabetes and Parkinson's concerns in Alzheimer's. But it will also get rid of your wrinkles. There are just many supplements out there in which people are pitching hitching them as literally being able to change your body at the cellular level right. We're hearing lately that the shift shift for a lot of these companies into beauty from the inside out and then they tack on some other claims about oxidative stress which hints at being able to cure cancer but that the primary claim is that. You'll look better which is very important to a lot of people out there right. The other thing that we see a lot of. That's very disheartening. Is You know if there wasn't enough. Pain and suffering in this world is makeup diseases rate like adrenal fatigue. That right but you know you now need to buy six different supplements to cure your adrenal fatigue. which doesn't isn't even a thing? What about detoxing right? I mean we actually have organs in our bodies that do great the jobs at at detoxing and I think when you look at studies out there and you listen to the healthcare professionals most of these detox products. Let's do much more harm than good. Yeah Canada I think a couple of days ago barred the sale of vaginal detox products. What are those? Oh yes you can. You can just go online and buy them. If you'd like you can go to goddess detox and get your herbal vaginal detox ingredient. I did go on GODDESS DETOX DOT ORG NOT DOT COM. which was the first thing about this site right? Got My hackles up and they sell a product called Goddess Vaginal Detox Pearls which are suppositories that proclaimed to be an herbal alternative to a chemical solution to a problem. They don't define that will purge your vagina of dead skin cells mucus yeast and old blood. Clots that sounds sounds scary. Not only is it scary but it's really taking advantage of a susceptible populations you know one of the things they say. Is that add. It can detox you from an ex lover with no well. It's difficult to battle battle of faith based system. I feel like in the wellness world when people have faith in something making a reasonable argument against it. Just doesn't it works so much because they're like well I'm not looking at it that way and we should never discount the placebo effect right. It Weren it works well for some people and that's absolutely fine but at the same time there are studies out there that say that people that go the natural root for cancer treatments. You know are much more likely to die so I think there is a line. I'm not sure exactly where one wants to draw it but I think that when it comes to these illegal disease treatment claims it needs to be stopped we made the comparison between Paltrow's company Amanda Chantal Bacon Company and Alex Jones. Is there any thing that you have found around that. A lot of these folks who make these claims have in common personality trait wise like I've never been inspired myself to start a vitamin company that it claims to do all kinds of things. That can't do what. What kind of person wants to do that? Someone who wants to make a lot of money. Yeah Yeah I mean. Wellness sells better worse. It's cheap to make as a general matter and consumers are willing to spend a lot of money because because we don't want to die they don't WanNa die or they WANNA look beautiful. They don't want wrinkles. They don't want Alzheimer's they don't want gray hair. They WANNA WANNA be thin and we'll pay anything for that. So yes it's messed. Stop these products exist or don't work or work by some harmful mechanism. But the scariest part is that. They're being shoved in our faces all day. Long on our phones magazines magazines during interviews with some of the most famous most influential and highly respected people on the planet. And they're telling us that they're good for our health Next time on the dream I was attending church. Here in Wisconsin he then delicate church nondenominational church. Whatever and for some reason the pastors decided just start endorsed and local wellness center and within six months a lot of events that this church hosted the like Appointments Bridge Street definitely several Bible Studies but they would incorporate messages of how maybe one reason your unbalanced downland spiritually or maybe a reason why you feel unwell about God or about life just because almost out of balance Alan and you need to go to place to get a balance or get a chiropractic adjustment this is from the people and then I I walked out of the sanctuary? 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2020 SLC1 Post-Race Interviews

The Steve Matthes Show on RacerX

43:22 min | 5 months ago

2020 SLC1 Post-Race Interviews

"The. Pro Circuit racing based in Corona California and founded in Nineteen Seventy eight by Mitch. Payton is known for two things building high quality horsepower winning races. The name pro circuit has worldwide recognition that you have bought the best, and we strive to get you the very best products for your bike from two strokes to four engine, porting suspension in our top rated exhaust bronx. We cover it off and take a look at our own twenty twenty roster, consisting of Austin Ford Ner Garrett March, banks, Jordan Smith and Cameron mcadoo visit pro circuit dot com for more info on all the services and products pro circuit race. Chris Blow Salt Lake City supercross. Hey, you haven't been on the bike much. You had a horrific crash in Glendale young man on the bike much. You came back to race and showed good speed in qualifying, but race pace must have been tough for you. Yeah, you Pretty good practice as far as you know doing a couple of at the time, but I think the biggest thing for me was just trying to get back into that race pace and intensity so like you said about the bike for a long time and before you know, we cannot hear Salt Lake. I'd wrote a handful of time so. It's GonNa take a little bit but Yet they was was okay. Yeah, so okay, so that's my next question. You're happy with how it went everything. Not Happy I won't to be better. I know, it's not gonNA be instant. So it's going to be a process. Won't. You Know I. Guess You won't Wallace. Be. legris held up for for the most part will fall. Let things things weren't okay, did they? Were you. Is there anything in your body still sore? We know your mommy, but any lingering effects. Aren't they? Everything else for my angry has been finding history your. Risk like this lack of mobility. And turn off like in the main event that that you went over the table for the star and read and I just one lap. I did not get liftoff it. And came up so sure and I thought this was going to fall off. Really. Her so yeah had to like actually like roll around. That to get it to go away for a little bit but Yeah, so was it How Weird was it for you I'm asking everybody question, but how weird wasn't. It would definitely weird Wouldn't know fans and social distancing the math. Definitely different. That's for sure. It's not obvious. Ain't nobody is. Also for us. It would definitely be. The weirdest part for me was like the process on going to the gate. The buys, but he had. With you! That was like the weirdest pilot. Really rights going to sit in their atom Cerullo told me it was just weird to be there with. No everybody was just talking. You could hear everybody talk. You know what I mean like. It was yeah it was weird, so. Different different but wherever. Yeah so all right so you'll be ready for Wednesday giving give a shit again. How blows? Yet? Make a few changes trying to figure out a couple of years Yeah, it's it's Wednesday. On definitely wanted to. are to that actually. Are you doing the four-fifths. If you get in. Can you do the four fifty on the on the other coast? No I'm not getting for. All right, yeah, I didn't know because I don't think they're going to have forty guys by the time this thing ends up on that coast. You know so yeah. I was GONNA say there could be a spot for you if you had a four fifty. You wanted to do it. Right yeah, I mean. definitely not. Cool thanks. Track. It was really simple, really easy I know they did that on purpose for everybody to get back into it and I. Don't know how this dirt going to hold up for six more races. I mean even being the first rates and. That being the freshest it's going to be. Man That was so marbly and it just the curated so quick. Start should be interesting the next six rounds though. I'M Definitely GONNA be. Cool! Thanks close appreciate it. We'll see you, Wednesday bye, thank you. All right post race podcast from Salt Lake City one supercross. It's J. B., Justin, Brayton well. I guess first of all J., B.. The question is GonNa for everybody is just. How Weird was the whole thing? It was definitely a little strange for sure Especially when you're sitting on the line like it feels like 'cause you know the time practices, we get a gate drop. Yeah, he made event felt just like a time practice. You're actually out there risk, so that was a little strange, but hopefully once you get going, and once you're racing didn't really feel that much different but yeah overall the day. I didn't mind it. Though you know not like that was all come packed and I mean I'm lardy back to. Act, our house and. We've got back like ago. Yeah! So that's kind of cool part of it. Yeah, really right What was it like with no Duff You know all that kind of stuff. Thing was hard to see I guess, but that was a little strange, but. That's funny. I was just on the frontier e, the Honda Australia Guy and I'm like was basically like Ozzy supercross today like there's a lot of them. They don't allow that Lord okay. It was pretty dry and hop which is. Typically how ugly racist! So yeah it was. You know none of that stuff. Really bug me that much, but. Overall I thought it was good. I thought it went well and. I think as we go on more of a system can. We didn't really know or like. Yeah, okay? Where do we lock our whole? We need to do it now in like yeah, can you hold my bike? Go Pick my day and then. Like all, that was a little strange. I think we'll have more of a system now and everyone will know more like okay. Here's what I do I'll go pick my gate. Yeah. I'll come back and grabbed my bike. You locked the whole. Shut down, so. That was the strangest party not knowing exactly what was allowed, and what wasn't allowed I, talked to Adam and Kenny after practice, and neither one of them was bothered by no track walk. They just thought it was fine to have like to slow laps. On that I, I was only yeah. I enjoyed it. Yeah, I thought it was. It was fine and I thought. I thought that would freak. You guys out not. Fun I will say though the track really really basic so yeah. I wouldn't have needed. I wouldn't have needed for one I didn't even look at it. Because already saw pictures on Instagram so I knew what the rhythm we're going to be and. Honestly we went out there. I lap. Without, even seeing the tracking trouble. And and we did get to watch the two fifty practice a little bit. We could kind of see a couple of the land, and that's all you really need to see is if you see somebody hit it. Then you can go out there and hit it I lot no problem i. I wasn't the greatest track and all that, but I'll give them. I'll give them a break. You guys haven't raised for a long time. Yes, sure it was on purpose and I'm sure it'll get tougher. Between we'll talk about your raise individually here, but dude I don't know how this thing's going to hold off for six weeks. Six races I mean I, don't. know either. The dirt and You know one thing that wasn't that great was. They would water before like every race. Connor Senate the dust, but That was pretty gnarly, so we'd go out and it'd be like a slip and slide half the track, and then the other part wasn't and. I get it I. Guess You know like you said we'll give them Mulligan the first cup. I think the next one will be a lot better because it'll be a little bit cooler and it'll be at night, so they'll be some moisture in it, yeah! I hope they're moving the dirt around that. They water the crap out of while new draft can be build stuff drive, and it's just never but those. For what they're doing, so yeah, you hope they they. They know what they're doing because. It looked brutal between the rots, and then the dry slickness, and just oh, man, it was rock. Yeah, we were down to concrete and Bernard. Patrick concrete yeah. Then twenty nine lap like. The track handle any lab. No, no, so that was pretty wild. Ride away when we saw the track like. Short lifetime we're going to do a lot of laps tonight. And also seven guys in the four fifty main pulled in, or didn't finish a fuel boiling I think the altitude to some guys. The track conditions. Get was GNARLY, so yeah, we were caught and it was. It was caught outside None of us have racing along android altitude. Yeah, I think all that combination, and then that intensity and many laps on a pretty demanding track, even though the chocolate museum is pretty demanding, always moving bike, always moving underneath. Even on straightaways. It's moving because you Chinese attraction and. So. Yeah, it was definitely tough, and we're into lepers. I mean even in the heat race after the heat. I'm like we were into loppers like about five or six year. your own race. Almost you got you on the main group. It was great you were battling hard. With you coming off an injury, I don't know how much time you have on the bike, but with the injury that might have been the worst thing for you a little bit to. Go that pace that early. What do you think? I don't know I thought it was fine. I definitely got my right arm bumped up whether that's. Backing by time or intensity or whatever? that was the main thing as far as like my long considering that wasn't a bad. It was just once I got. You just have to Labor? No, like the Turner all. Just you just have to Labour's and then I tend to go. I had a huge moment and one of the Rhythm Lane. I'm over. Could Adult send it to? You like well when I didn't crash I was like stunned and I like took a second. See Gums like. Oh Dang I didn't even crash 'cause I thought showdown down. partially got by me. Yeah, but yeah overall. It was okay. It wasn't that great, but for sure I would have liked to stay in that leaker if a little bit, but yeah with No. Enfance I think that can make you sick. Sounds good man well? Hey, thanks for the time appreciate Pro Circuit, Paul Callan today. I haven't really heard much from. He's yeah, he's fine. He's fine. Don't worry about it. He's good. Maybe I'll see you on the show tomorrow night. Perhaps maybe what's the deal with that I I'll text you after I'm done recording this interview out, okay? Thanks J. B.. Pierce Brown. Hey, man, salt, Lake City pulp cast outside of Eli Tomac share. mcelrath, who both won the races. You Pratt, perhaps the right of the day. On the ground second twenty first to fifth phenomenal ride man great job. Yeah they. The top one, I'm definitely heard from, but right now. No good day over qualified. Worth think. Yeah I think qualified six so I'd say I'd say in the second qualifying, but bummed. His say to. Someone had a better time my first. Practice, but yeah. Yeah came out got a third my heat, so are going guard and then. Do the bird. I had a decent thorough search on that and then. I. Came into effect owner and Shimoda outside of the. He kinda split out, I like. I Hand Don often him and our holy sideways. Way For someone to hit me and then being caught Neko's. In me, and then we both went down, but You know where to go you. You're screwed. Like after after the murder of I don't know I. Don't know if he was Piss off or what, but he gave me like the best I was hoping that, but no I had nowhere to go. Don's office CHAMOIS. With along the right. dude. It was a great ride I. Think you past twenty two dudes on that triple by troubling that triple role. Honestly I've seen a lobby were just crushing guys, they're. Basically, everyone knows. I don't know exactly what are. You were you were a doubling throwing yourself into the face and then scrubbing into the face it was. Yeah it was awesome. How tired were you? That's a lot of work and we're at altitude. I. Know You're used to it, but still you had to been had been hard. I was. Actually really good, all mother and We have three laps together. And that's what my third stealing, but. we had I had MAC and sexy like ride on me like ready to go out and shoot though like as soon as I as I some mechanic gimmie three live from the fifth ward. And when macaroni and. On, side, I went ahead. Let them by. but after that I. Of Canada's crews recruited all the way on the way home on Alan, but did you. Did you know you were because a pit board stuff I know some guys are trying to pit board. But did you know where you were? Were you were and all that? I kind of had a clue, but I on that really not because I said. Why and the first time he gave me, I was t eight art eight hours this town of town those taking. Know! We were laughing people. They were I. Don't know where they were so I wouldn't I was going for it, and then I saw three left to go, but he didn't have this vision like survey up. I'm guessing the whole entire mother without fit without Steph like. But, did you? Yeah if you were laying on the ground and someone said Hey, you're going to get. Fifty would've took that all day. Long cause you were. You were so far back it was. Hard more. I wasn't mad about my writing, but still just for like this awful like how? How like? I laugh when. There's a felt like I could've? But. bombed on. Stock on the ground nothing. I know you, don't you? Don't live here and right here all that much, but you think the the dirt. Do you think you got a little bit for help? From this? Being familiar with the dirt and everything I've been talking to guys here for the last hour and a Lotta. Guys are like dude. It was so slippery with so breaking down. It was ready like a lot of guys struggle with the track and the dirt. Do you think it helped you at all, or have you been gone too long and riding too much other stuff. I feel like I've gone too long. I moved out Sir Georgia and I was like fourteen. I've been on the East Coast, said Oh. Yeah, yeah, all right. We actually We heard. All around Arizona, so I flew back to Kennedy early like two weeks before. The first round and then we landed. In Rian Salt Lake, but we flew out early to Cali just so I could practice on heart paks is. Struggling hardback stuff more than I do like Aki in rutted tracks so. I was. Honestly like. I honestly like hard pack is definitely not my strong suit, but it's Kinda weird. Like Here. Really Right. Yeah, that is, but well. Hey, man does all I needed from you just great ride, fantastic job and now we gotta race again in two days, so we'll see on Wednesday thanks for. thanks for the. Call Chisholm Salt Lake City supercross first of all ages. You were like eight in the Q. and I tweeted out. Don't worry chairs wheelchairs. He will get in I. Don't know what's going to happen to the seven guys in front of him, but she is will get one of those four spots and sure enough. You did no problem here we go. You're just a just a grizzled vet of this stuff. Yeah, not going away to. The first, Time, you know. Look out, but. And he I like. The other. Guys are healthy. Things. There's a Lotta guys and he was I think. Right around there. With our. And, I made a mistake the first. is over triple. Cutting, the next one and. I just in passing, but he got going to scoring crashed into the side. It wasn't about. That! I WANNA! Get Out of. The heat. Reality. Not The best starter those names is GonNa got mixed up I, earned and yeah, badly seventh or eighth first half. I wrote like you know the I lab. We're GONNA. Nice thought he was the like. Like okay as long as they help their gap in the word. And Groom by hers. Per couple laugh so. I try to. You know, throw it away right away. You're my GRANDPA. Look. You Know Gaping Gaping Orlando. They're all pretty much stuck together. An old I last. Couple of download. Beta! Houses got right up the Cunningham an angry. I wanted to pass a couple of passenger but like. Yeah to work out, but we regret it. And how? Easy Mamer thorough therapy will leave it on the game at the. And we talked about after already, but It was so dusty. I? Grabbed at first, but it was the and it got really. route. That going to be. yeah, just every Giver Governor Charlie for. Iraq's with the dry. As having to get. GotTa fifteen so. You know yeah. Well if you're? So so many guys pulled out or crash or pulled into mechanic. Or whatever like it was an attrition race? I don't know okay. Altitude slash condition. Slash this time. Hot Yeah like the guys were struggling. Yeah just go work for that race. Like you're in every week, we're riding at home or whatever saying that you know. Many bars, people with their skirts, yeah! Forty one other guys and you know whatever. they're going to have that. I think. You're. Going to be. You know a lot of guys that I love you. Regroup. Reset whereas you Kinda. Get going the wrong direction like during the season. Do so many in a row normally that they found hard to like. Improve or work on stuff if I buy you a couple of days and then. Again you got over, so you know having things last. Month or two off. Almost like recently all I can help me. Yeah, but that kind of hold other you know. Variables at a all going to act or anything? It's It's going to be a crazy six weeks. I don't know how this tracks going to hold up and it's going to be gnarly weeks. Now he's GonNa take. Drinks Racist. Sorry. Yes. No yeah, it is like. But man, it's it's it is. For certain, but I like it like. Three and Arriving early. Like by the time over era Saturday I. I like parkway at least days I'm like Frank. Of. I know everything about. Your next Saturday can't come soon enough. For me I kinda like. I'm already like okay. We've got that. Like I. I. I don't realize. Whatever? Ordering before there's no trying with all. Practicing at Western. Because right and they had to honestly Derby. Es Nur You know like A. Performance standpoint. Writer Makina! Never guys are other work. Operate. Those are working button though you know with and twenty, but whereas Reiner's. We. Traveled or riding? We hear a lot later. We couple of days. We'll be right order. Or you're traveling. That's part of that. We're not having to deal and so you. Gives. Out a racer. I'd rather. Of the week I'm. Like. Let's just. Was this. You've done salt lake a bunch. Obviously, it was this. Tougher than a usual Salt Lake, or did this feel outside of the fans? Obviously, that's a massive difference, but outside of that dis- feel same as every other. Salt, Lake, you've done, you can remember. Hey, yeah. I would think added with me or frankly like I said about. The first race deal like you just. Hotter originator a couple of years ago. When it was on. I, think Bert with like harder and. You know or I think because the heat I every. Year there's questioning or whatever why I think. This is like a unusual heatwave. They're going through right now, is it? Again. Ask for listening pretty hot. I think that. Kinda made it. A little harder little drier than ever but out of what it is I mean it's not like. What you've been there. You kind of expect I would say. Only ten. There's an old. You know. that. that. That was a hard one because it was raining. I. Yeah, we're. Like five. Yeah, it's not. That was a tough one. Scenario. Cooman. Thanks, cheers! I appreciate the update. We'll see a Wednesday, but. Salt Lake City super cost. One pro circuit pulp cast the pro circuit. Sadam. SEEN SURREAL AC glad. You're all right. That was scary. Coop Web ran ran wide right over, but you're all right. You're banged up, but you'll be okay. Yeah I think that'd be fine Yeah. It was unfortunate. I mean the the crash itself. It happened so fast I barely even know what happened to be honest, not from the sense of where I hit my head or something. Happened quickly the crash itself hurt and then yeah, then you know I was kind of land on that your face there and in Cooper jumped right into me, and he obviously tried to break Emoji can, but I almost think maybe made it works watching the replay and him trying to break though art they put so much pressure on the front end and he ran right over my back. I mean that's the only not so obviously, he. Hit everything could but yeah. I should be fine. It's a little bit. It's a little bit better than Glendale. When Dale was was pretty brutal in terms of like lower back corners. And this one isn't quite that bad so. I should be fine exactly fun, but. Yeah, IT'S A. It's a learning moment. It was sketchy track I don't know I. I didn't see the crash so I. Don't know if you caught rot or if you into that table thing, I don't know really know what. Yeah well. They wanted this track a lot obviously the track was Super Desi knew that was going to happen, but I was conscious of that and I just came out of the turn to hit that triple. TRIPLE OUT! It was pretty difficult and I think it was just a little bit too much on the Nabis on the side of and ended up spending and getting out of control Yeah, I think. I don't know I mean looking back. I was probably just a little bit too eager. You know. I'm not rain for while being right there. My Star Trek so good I was. Stuck on that, but yeah. Probably, take a breath. I've felt like in the heat race. You kinda just road behind Kenny. You didn't really push you. Push too hard. It looked like you were just like okay I'll get second I'm fine. Yeah, well in the beginning he made a mistake and You know it's one of those deals where? I feel like I. Mean You know we bonus? We also for heat race, so it's not like there's nothing on the line thing, but you know you want to be not the primary focus, but you wanna be kind of a safe. You can't. I was one of those tracks where I was GONNA be a real pretty aggressive move. And I was a little bit uncomfortable with the change. We made on the bike. And I was just didn't have too much. Fronting grip so I was just kind of going through the most important, but he wrote good. Obviously yeah. I'm asking everybody the same question. Just how weird was it? How different was it? Was it like? Well it was. Relaxed like on the on the start line before the heat race ten and I were like messing with each other so pros you know making sure they were on and just talking crap and the main event I was mixed the. Jason Anderson and you know we live in the same neighborhood afford so we were talking about you. Know Auto, no stop in the community or whatever it was just. It just didn't feel it didn't feel like we're about. Yeah, no go for a game. I told one of the guys. I was going to bring my like my portable speaker with next time because get the vibe of. A little dance club, going on behind the line. It was Berry Berry Chill, but they did a good job. I mean the track was terrible. It was an and I don't know I think it was terrible. It was terrible, but they're giving you guys breaking you in slowly so I get it. That's what it is. You know I didn't have a huge problem with the layout like I. Yes easy but right that I think that presents. Other Challenges that you know. The cream always rises to the top and look at the podium, but I thought it was just. It got windy and it was very hot. And it looked like they were on a pretty tight time. With the you know with the NBC broadcast. And, so they were watering the track, which never happens like you know right before we go out there. No I mean it's easy for me to take that bit me, but Yeah I mean if they could keep the more moisture in it. Maybe we get some allows these next few days. It'll be right. What are the chances you're lining up on Wednesday? right now. I would say. I'd say sixty forty I'm up all right. Yeah, I'm I have nick currently at home depot me. To fill. That thing! Yeah, yeah, but Yeah I mean I'll be there. If I can. You Know Me Oh of course, yeah, obviously all right man well. Hey, thanks for the call I. Appreciate the update. Thank you. Problem. All Right S. L. supercross pro circuit pope cast Kevin Moran. What's up man hey. Nice working that I'll see Q. You had to be stressed in a little bit. Yeah, it was a little bit trustful, but you know I got off to a really good I mean I. Know I'm always a really good star conference myself and my start so. I had a video of it, too, so I was like a whole link ahead of everybody, so just shit on. The inside of and destroyed my race. Oh actually. You have hey, before we get into the main event for you I gotTa. Say you're qualifying. Time was a little off for me from what I thought you'd where you'd be. What were some of the issues you had? The biggest thing that me is like obviously so privateer life right I had not touched my rate bike tone. We ran like a soft set up at. because it was on the rig when everything got canceled. So show up. We try to kind of go back to our bay. But kinda really struggled when it comes to having like a good setup because. Like, when can't we needed to rebuild suspension but everything on the rig? We didn't really have time. Nobody knew what was going on when it comes to like. When going to raise you know anyway just. To do with what I, what I have and elevates and also I couldn't really re my bike so I try got to try to figure that out. We're dealing with just trying to minors. On make up for all the different. Is You know what I mean? Did you get it somewhere? Close? You were so you were all. Know! We got pretty close, but. We're going to try to find some Maybe somebody that every. It elevates them. Drag a little bit got a little bit of a bog at the bottom, but other than. Dude between the guy's pulling off and the guys crash in and fuel, boiling and altitude sickness. It was quite a challenge for a lot of dudes today. Yeah, I'M NOT GONNA lie, we did. What was it twenty like? They did twenty, one, eight, hundred, two, hundred two. Yeah, yeah, so that's a lot of lap. And the another thing that I really struggled because like the heat, Ray. with carnage. Right off the get go go out of the corner. You hit that hard one eighty and the second quarter. Where was super, super muddy and the heat so everybody Kinda just stopped. I ended up getting bumped off the track. So, hot back on got back I think I have all the carnage so. I got back up to nine and then just made some other mistakes dropped to eleven so bounce back good and healthy issue. actually wrote my own race, and then battled blows a little bit. and then the main another thing that you know the good learning experience that today to take it into the next round, but I didn't really soften anything up. For the main I think I showed up because? One, this is my first time racing in Salt Lake City. So I had no experience, higher and it got way dryer and wait choppier and I was expecting. Look like a national at times out there like in some spots. Yeah, so I was kind of like I think myself just set up to staff and I was I was fighting the whole time, so lesson learned. You know what I mean. You gotTa take get. I, mean not Super Soak my main performance at all, but you know I've only had literally only had two days of supercross over the eighty five days a break, so I'm not not coup to Bombay on it. We need to build and keep getting better and I mean look, it's just it's accused, so it's not the best of the best, but anyway it feels good for a guy like you. I'm sure. Yeah would've but Yeah, absolutely running up front running. Out to worry about all the the carnage and. You know the people that are just. Only. So many places you can go get now. Front is definitely what I need to do more often. I think this was a sneaky tough race for a lot of guys I. Don't think a lot of people myself included expected it to be this tough for guys whether for all the stuff we talked about. Yeah exactly like one thing that I really struggled to like obvious with altitude and everything is I did everything in my power to try to get over that right after the start that single over table three three. I literally I like 'cause I had my uncle and some other people taking videos like kind of see what was going on with. My suspension allows writing like I try to four different times and every single time frame the absolute crud out of it so. I was just kinda stuck to to the the slower line. That's all my bike and really get over up here in the outside so I just made do with what I had and I'm excited for the next round. I think is a defense first round back. Of get started now. Are you going to leave for the after your coast is done here after the three? Oh No, no, for sure, so you'll just walk and ride and do whatever right? Watch ride mountain bike. Enjoy the. Beautiful State. Of, UTAH. Hey listen if we had to be stuck somewhere all of us for these seven races. It's not a bad place in the. Really is not it is not at all. It's been awesome. My uncle Roy lives out here, too so I've been kinda and Ham and he. He lives up here in Park City. All the INS and outs of every trail around here, so they're pretty fun. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, like you said. At least you got fun. Because I was doing the math I think the east coast guys with coming back and getting retested could leave for like eleven days or something if they want to. Get. I drove out here and it was like sixteen hours. Definitely, not going back to. Drive another fifty dollars. Good point all right Miranda. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it good job. We'll see we'll see on Wednesday. At. Really appreciate it. Thanks man! Are Salt Lake City pro circuit pulp cast a man i. don't know like between the track breaking down the ruts the Sun. The wind did I miss anything obstacles. You left out some rocks and. Rocks owed cement. Somebody told me he got down to the cement also. Going in there then into that start corner. Semen it for sure so, what is your race? You were kind of trailing. There was an intense race maybe like two seconds ahead of you almost the homemade event. It look like you're right behind their. Yes. I I lined up outside I think I was like fourteen Acre thirty gay pick or something like that. I was definitely outside and now I ran it in there and freeze kind of pushed me a little bit, wide and Yeah. I I'm messed up I slap went down I. don't even know what by then, but it was coming through, and and yeah like you said there was that that race that I could just. Out just watching that I felt like I couldn't push hard enough to get up to it and. We'll definitely talk. You Know I. I struggled about. Fifteen minutes into the main event. It was just really really tough for me to keep. Keep going. My lungs were burning. And Little Hill had. cat-and-mouse game on there for a little bit. So. It was. Definitely an eye opener for sure and you know. Go back. Regroup and try to get a better start kind well on this Lewis. This layout a guy like yourself you're you're you're good in the whoops? You know what I mean. You're good in certain spots, but this track was. If you didn't start there, you were screwed. I, think unless you were maybe. Maybe. If you were told me I don't know, how are you going to? Chicago override the track? Override the track. You would just go down. Yeah, yeah, definitely, you can't override that track. And it was. It was definitely tough, and yeah. He lives breaking. He was ripping well just. Realize patented rides. I can't think of is not necessarily today, but I just think somebody who can just go balls out and pass everybody on that track. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I got! It it definitely you gotta be You GOTTA BE REAL Stop going to go, that's all those guys. Exactly so once. You did that mistake it was over. How is this dirt? GonNa hold up for six more races. was. Going to happen I think I think it's going to be harder than the cement. It's GonNa be Gnarly I think. Maybe. It'll be a little bit better on Wednesday because were a little bit later. Yeah I don't know maybe you will. Rain different weather. Maybe maybe WANNA? Pray for that, right? Yeah I mean just to keep track a little bit moist. The dirty little boys, so we can get some Some more breaking down and not drying out so bad AC said it was really weird. Line up without your mechanic. It was really chill no fans. He felt like he was maybe going to bring a little boost bottle and play some music or something. How Weird was down there for you wold? Though Weird I. Mean I've never I've never experienced anything like it. I mean obviously I guess on Press Day but. Press Day just practicing and her gay job it's. Awkward. You know it seems like out of sorts and and. No no lurch out there yelling. Let's go. No flames and Nothing would definitely Really really different. Hopefully our Manhattan WanNa. Take up too much time. Just thanks for the recap. Appreciate it and we'll see a Wednesday. I appreciate it. Thanks, thanks. All Right Hey, ray domination in the queue came through for me my fantasy. Thank you. Hold out off. Me I did are going to your frigging the pod you. You did not have my back. Only pair of. Bag You. Back Yeah for sure your. Back the whole time he did, but you know what I watched. You and I thought you were solid. I'm like Oh, I think he's good. Cause remember when the series ended. We had a little bit of issues making Maine's. You're prepared, so that was a long time ago though. I like that thirteen just because you were thirteen, so no matter what you did in the main event you. You were GONNA make gut. Get double points I was in. but hey, anyways. little bikes you in the main event that you'll get sorted out but How'd you feel all that? You know I, personally well. I missed the first free practice due to a a bike issue, which was nobody's fault and then The first few practices went okay, and then the heat rates ahead the same issue happen. with like two laps to go just as something with shock and then We had zero time and luckily my. Luckily Michael Lindsay was right there. He sort of helped me out and doesn't mechanics. They frigging Swat the shock as possible and I was a little bit late to the game for the Lt. I made it. got a great start in that. Elsie snuck on the inside and you know made that happen. so you know with you know everything that has happened throughout the day with you know the bike and it just stuff happening, you know. You're we really need something good to happen? And once we made the main I was like. Man It was like a weight off the shoulders. It seemed like and You know I just wanted to get through with the date. You know because we were having such a crappy day. But but yeah, we did Like you said had another issue in the in the main event was super hot today. Feel, boiled! Nothing I can do. I mean like I mean I was honestly I was just cruising around. The thing just started bogging whenever I would like. WAS GETTING KINDA SKETCHY BUT I. Rolled around for like four or five because I've seen other people's bike. Like it was selfish. You know ended up getting seventeenth just to the second outbreak more yeah. No sure do it was the altitude got some guys. The fuel boiled. The track got some guys. Windy it. It was sunny. It was dusty like this was a tough round. There it was honestly like. Rem. Rem? Rem. Blend Helena. Jodi will be so proud to hear that. Well that's how it was I. Mean if you watch it. Right yeah, I kind of death. Yeah Yeah. It was beat down. What was it like with? No fans, just kinda chilling, starting line just sitting there, nobody talking. So quiet own my God. You don't have lurched like you know yelling at people and frigging like hyphen you up. You know to get in the door and everyone's just like shooting shit. I swear, you can hear. flagger over there talking shit about you, if you. All the way on the other side you can. Was So, silent I'm like. Weird, but. For the most part we're back to the races. That's all matter. Yeah, it was. It was good to be back for you. You like you. Oh Man, yeah, yeah! I really enjoyed it today. Are, you, GonNa Proud swear. I'm sorry. It was like. A, big ask ferry. That's I mean that's what it was like I mean everybody was chilling. Up like like in the back. Yeah, there is there is. There is the guys in the front that had their whole kit setup, but For the most part like we just had the easy outs in, you know we're just chilling. And it was. It was Kinda like. stress-free, yeah, I mean everything was like. Go go go, but at the same time it was like more of a show thing. There's not band rolling through the pets. You're not talking to anybody. You're sort of chill. Him I was watching, I was watching TV in the pretty much the whole day. Are you gonNA practice when you're here. Are you GONNA get out at all, do you? Are you able to I'M GONNA? Try to I'd probably won't be able to sleep, but but next week I will be. We have to rebuild my practice. was just waiting on some parts and stuff. I WANNA rebuildable. I think it's getting pretty weak. All the every day metal there where? Here, we go! Yeah Yeah really right just just keep this thing alive for the next six races place. He'd have for sure. Swat Moto going to be mad that you did this podcast with us. No No. Corker, we're now. We're GONNA go tomorrow. Probably Oh, you are okay. Yeah Recovery Rod. I might end up trying to do that, too. We'll see okay. All right thanks.

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Kavanaugh accuser's lawyer: There are multiple witnesses who should be included at hearing, doesn't say whether Ford will testify, Kavanaugh accuser's attorney: "The rush to a hearing is unnecessary", Kavanaugh accuser's attorney in new statement: Ford un

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Kavanaugh accuser's lawyer: There are multiple witnesses who should be included at hearing, doesn't say whether Ford will testify, Kavanaugh accuser's attorney: "The rush to a hearing is unnecessary", Kavanaugh accuser's attorney in new statement: Ford un

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Out front next breaking news, Christine Blasi Ford's attorney releases a new statement just moments ago calling for more witnesses in Monday's hearing this as Republicans say, she has until Friday morning to decide whether she will testify plus, should the FBI investigate Ford's allegation or is it not their job and Trump in the storm? Ravaged Carolina's passing out hot dogs and hugs. But was it his question about his golf club that could have been most revealing? Let's go out front. Good evening. I'm Jim Shudo in for Erin Burnett tonight and out front tonight. Breaking news, showdown, Christine Blasi for the woman who has accused bread Cavagnaud of sexual assault is in a standoff tonight with Republicans, Ford's attorney just releasing a statement slamming Republican efforts to hold a hearing on Monday saying it is quote, not fair or in good faith. Adding quote, the rush to a hearing is unnecessary and contrary to the committee, discovering the truth end quote. Her attorney also leveling new demand saying that more witnesses should be included in Monday's hearing, however, a spokesman for the Republicans on the judiciary committee tells me tonight that they have received no communications from Ford or her attorney about that request. For more witnesses comes just about an hour after Republican Senator Chuck Grassley in a letter to Democrats shut down the idea of delaying the hearing, giving Ford until Friday this Friday at ten o'clock in the morning to decide whether she is going to testify on Monday even Republican senators. Susan Collins who could be a key vote on Cavanaugh says the Ford must testify. I think it's fair to judge cabin on for her not to come forward and testify. Now, Ford's lawyers have also called for an FBI investigation into the incident before any public hearing and investigation that the president makes clear. He does not support. Well, it would seem that the f. b. i. really doesn't do that. They've investigated. They've investigated about six times before and it seems that they don't do that. Sunland Safadi is out front live on Capitol Hill tonight selling, really a stunning turn of events just in the last hour. That's right. Jim, a lot of fast moving developments really speaking to how fluid this situation is even at this late hour. And I think it all boils down to the fact that both sides here are really digging in further. We heard from chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee Chuck Grassley, and he's firmly rejecting calls to delay. Monday's hearing he's firmly rejecting calls for an FBI investigation to happen before the accuser. Dr Ford shows up at that hearing potentially. He's saying, essentially, today we are pushing forward on this. He sent a letter to the Democrats on the committee that impart makes all this crystal clear saying it would be a disservice to Dr four judge Cavanaugh this committee and the American people to delay this hearing any further. And Grassley says that he has made many options. Put on the table for her to potentially testify a public, hearing a private hearing here on Capitol Hill with stuff over at her home in California. He also says in this letter that he has offered to fly staff to California or anywhere else to meet her to get her testimony. But then we are seeing her sides really digging as well in response to this letter. You noted that statement coming out from her attorneys today, essentially saying that this process is still being Russia and really blasting the committee questioning whether they're in good faith. Going about this, realizing that they believe more witnesses should be called, not just the two of them the he said, she said showdown that would've could potentially turn out to be on Monday. So all of this boils down through there is a new deadline on the table. Jim Grassley set ten AM Friday for her to make her decision. No. Will she show up or not? The next question is what next step is after that, if she doesn't show up, does the committee hearing still go on? Does vote. Essentially happen all of those still open question tonight. Big question Sunlen Safadi. Thanks very much up front. Now, David Gergen he's former presidential adviser to four presidents Laura codes, former federal prosecutor, and Greg Browder. He's former assistant director for the office of congressional affairs at the FBI David. If I could begin with you. So Christine Blasi Ford's attorney with this new statement just in the last few minutes in effect, making a new demand regarding Mondays or request we should. We should call it for more witnesses to appear at Monday's hearing. Is that a fair request? I think it'll be seen in the context of history. I'm frankly rather puzzled by the arguments have been made by the White House and by the Republicans that the FBI were those want to do. This doesn't do this sort of thing by the way would take a long long time and take us through the summer and so forth. And and there there shouldn't be any with us in nineteen Ninety-one. When Anita hill came forward with her allegations against Clarence Thomas, the allegations were sent to the White House. And the White House of George president. George H W Bush a Republican call toll directed the FBI to do a background investigation. The FBI Dan did background investigation. It took three days three days and Anita hill was allowed to have some witnesses not enough. She had a big argument about not enough. So the president all runs the other way, fairness under president. George H W Bush was to do a background, get all the facts on the table and doing so it. It just seems strange. That was nine hundred ninety. One. It was almost almost two decades ago, twenty seven years and look how far we've come with women's rights in our interesting of women's rights in San. And now we're going to give less due process to to Dr four. Then we gave to Anita hill less process. And I just sort of stunning to me Laura, as you watch this experienced prosecutor yourself, what do you see pushing this? You see the political calendar pushing this refers to when the supreme court sits again, a lot of key decisions there. And of course you have midterm elections coming up with the outcome in the Senate, uncertain. Those two points are exactly what's driving this. It's certainly not as empathy or as a fact-finding mission on behalf of the Senate Judiciary committee. It is the looming deadline at the Tober I or arguments knowing that there are supreme court cases on the docket right now that if you do not have judge Cavanaugh on the bench to shift that conservative ideology to be in the majority that liberal decisions as our so called called will actually remain. It'll be every day he's not on the court is said to be victory against those who are counting. Against conservative revolutions on the court number one number two, yes. The midterms are a factor, and this reminds people painstakingly that although there are many lawyers who sit on the Senate Judiciary committee, it is not a court of law. Their our mission is not to be a fact finding body as evidenced by the fact that they think they can fast-track Justice. Listen, if this were something as trivial, perhaps as Justice cavenaugh often used the letter c. to spell his name as opposed to a k. they would order a supplemental background to figure out the bankruptcy proceedings or eightman happened, or criminal history arrest warrants, or do you think that we're every issue they would cross there is in dot, they're t- if this was an issue of somebody alleging homicide for God forbid, they would also dot their is and cross their TS. The fact that a sexual assault allegation does not find itself on that spectrum tells you that the motivation could not possibly be about truth binding. It's more about fast track. Of course, with the FBI and you work closely with congress in your role at at at the FBI in it. The president has said again today, Chuck Grassley said, other Republicans that this is not the FBI's job to investigate this this. This is the committee's job to investigate it, and they say they're making a good faith effort to do that by inviting her to testify under oath before the committee, David Gergen sites precedent from nineteen Ninety-one. We're president George H W Bush ordered the FBI to look into the hills allegations. What is your view of the law here? Does the FBI should the FBI be investigating? Should the president order the FBI to investigate? Well, the process would include the ability on the part of the president to direct the FBI to reopen the background investigation and run down this new lead and interview any witnesses that might be relevant. The this typically happens as as David pointed out when this has happened in the past it, it, it typically. Before the nomination is formally announced. It hasn't always worked that way. But typically the idea is to get all of this investigative work as part of the background investigation done before the nomination is actually made public. But the president in this case could direct the FBI to do more work. I think that the Republicans and the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary committee need to understand that it may also be better in this circumstance to have committee staff do whatever additional fact finding the committee deems necessary. But I think I think two things are reported. The Republicans need to be careful to to not appear to be rushing this despite this new evidence and the Democrats need to be careful to not appear to be delaying it just for the sake of delaying it. There has to be some accommodation between the two sides on that point. David, if I could ask you, we have the accuser here, Christine Blasi Ford. She's under enormous pressure as a woman coming out clearly had no desire understandably to to come out in public with with with with her account of a pain. Experience. So that's understandable. She received death threats. We understand what he's had to leave her home because of those death threats that this is this is to say the least a difficult time for her that said. Is there an argument here where she should take this opportunity to speak under oath because she has made an allegation against Brett Cavagnaud that is and could be enormously damaging? Does she have some responsibility to whether it's in public or in private or whether she sits down, for instance, with Chuck Grassley staff as he sends them out to California. Well, listen, I think we should start with the proposition. This has been a very difficult time for her. She's been very brave, but it's also been a very difficult time for judge Cavanaugh and both need to be treated fairly, go through this. And I think the Republicans have a point. It would have been a lot better to Bill with this turning the airings us all to go public lay earlier, but we are what we are. And the question is how to handle this fairly and I, I must tell you it's, it's not an easy call, but I do think that she should come and testify under protest and lay out the case why it's unfair to ask for some more time and then lay on her her views. They're an awful lot of women, this country who who were pulling for her, and I think she has some. She's taken on some responsibilities as citizen to fellow women to make the best case you can for why she by this being railroaded through why was inappropriate at this wasn't fair. Why. She did what she did. She could be very sympathetic witness. And frankly, I think judge Cavanaugh it's in his interest to do a background, so it removes any cloud over his head. I personally believe judge Cavanaugh to ask for FBI background, check if he feels like he's done nothing wrong, what's the harm opportunity to clear his absolute Laura? Let me let me ask you to in on that in your view at it again. No one can make this decision, but for it frankly. Right? And and that it is, it is hurt decision ultimately. But in your view. Should she take this opportunity? I think she should. And here's why the idea that the metoo movement or the idea that we've come so far from twenty seven years ago about public shaming those who allege sexual assault, which also includes men by the way who have had that unfortunate circumstance from impressed upon them as well. You know the idea that you are are battling against its presumption of incredibily that people assume that you're telling a falsehood simply by virtue of the fact of your gender or that it sue in uncomfortable or inconvenient to make the claim. I think it is Covent upon people to follow through with this. Her evacuation sedan straight that there in fact, is some foundation to be believed. Not that you can believe that the person you're accusing guilty. But if you're going to have presumption of innocence in this country but also requires there's a presumption that you will believe credible witnesses or at least the opportunity to do so. And so I would implore her to do so not just because I'm. I'm fascinated or because I'm nosy. I wanna have some salacious event unfold on Monday, but because as a former prosecutor, I can tell you, I routinely had to confront women and men who sexual assault who had no interest in coming forward because they knew what was the head of them. They knew about the Boehner abilities and the tag, mystic attitude, defense counsel and yet, and still they had a responsibility and civic duty and a subpoena as well. That said we have to protect the next person. And in many ways, somebody looking for a lifetime appointment is I, it's incumbent upon them to allow their entire life to be valuated including this point that she can gave that elimination, please do so. The president has implied not only that it's not the FBI's job to look into this allegation, but almost that the FBI is not interested in looking into the allegation. You served a lot of time with the FBI. Do you think if asked the FBI would would step into the breaches it were and and do this? I do. I don't think the FBI would hesitate if directed by the White House to reopen its background investigation and do additional work. The FBI would absolutely do that. But I think just to emphasize Laura's point, I think that Dr Ford, having put this allegation out there does need to go on the record and explain why she thinks this is relevant to the confirmation of judge cabin. And then fundamental fairness would dictate the judge Cavanaugh be given an opportunity on the record to respond to that. But I, I think that this without that full airing of this allegation and any response to the allegation, the committee just isn't getting all of the information that it needs to make a decision. Listen, thanks to all the. It's tough issue. It's tough issue. Got knows for those involved personally, we appreciate you sharing your thoughts tonight out front next Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein is defending herself against criticism from both parties. Why did she wait so long before telling the FBI about Ford's allegation plus new people from Christine, Blasi Ford's past are coming out, what are they saying about her credibility and Trump hits the ground in the Carolinas ahead? The high and low moments as he meets with Florence survivors. Support for out front comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Let's talk about buying a home for a minute because of rising interest rates. There's a lot of unpredictability when it comes to buying a home these days, it's causing a lot of anxiety with folks. Well, our friends at Quicken Loans are doing something about that. They're calling it, the power buying process. Here's how it works. Quicken Loans will verify your income assets and credit in less than twenty four hours to give you a verified approval. This gives you the strength of a cash buyer. Then once you're verified, you qualify for their all new exclusive rate shield approval. 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Christine Blasi Ford's lawyer within the last hour releasing a statement, saying, quote, the rush to a hearing is unnecessary and contrary to the committee, discovering the truth and quote this as the committee's chairman, Chuck Grassley is digging in saying that Ford needs to confirm by this Friday at ten o'clock in the morning, whether or not she is going to testify that is whether in public or in private out front. Now EMMY Kramer she is co, founder and co chair of women for Trump and Robby Mook. He's former Hillary Clinton campaign manager. Thanks to both of you for joining tonight. Robbie, if I could begin with you here. Ford has an opportunity to testify under oath. Granted on that day on Monday at first, her lawyer said she will testify in public then said she's not ready to testify. Now, tonight you have a new demand in fact that listen beyond an FBI investigation. More witnesses should be heard on Monday. I, I wonder from your view, are Democrats losing control of this situation to some degree. Well, I, this really shouldn't be about Democrats or Republicans. It should be about the truth and what Dr blazey is asking for here is as David Gergen just mentioned. This is exactly what need a hill got in her hearing. There were other witnesses called the FBI did do an investigation and three days. And I think a lot of people today would feel that that case was was handled improperly that she wasn't given enough and that the that Haracic stations weren't hurt out enough. So I think it is only fair for her to ask for the same thing here. And frankly, I don't understand if I were a Republican Senator or any Senator entrusted with choosing someone for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. I don't understand why wouldn't want the FBI to spend what seventy two hours just trying to lay out the facts in this case before speaking to her. I I don't understand why somebody wouldn't want that. I, it me t to rob his point. Why the rush here? Why not? Let. The FBI investigate, for instance, as they did with Anita Hill's case some twenty seven years ago ordered then by Republican president, President Bush, and that at that point only took three days, right? Why not allow that extra vetting? Hugh? So let's deal on facts. First of all, the FBI this is not their jurisdiction. It should go to the local authorities there in Maryland wherever this happened. Number one, the second with an it is true. Robbie, second of all, the Neto injustice, Justice, Thomas, please let me finish second of all with the Anita hill acusations. Those didn't happen thirty five years ago. It was in a much shorter time period. So that is a big difference. The FBI. So they go do an investigation. I think Chuck Grassley said that an FBI investigation is not going to help recall her memory or change her memory. What they want to hear from her is her memory and what she has to say that the FBI. Has done six investigations on Brett cavenaugh and I just heard David Gergen talk about. She should come forward. She could be sympathetic witness. Let me tell you something. It's not about being sympathetic witness. It's about getting to the truth and facts. And the bottom line is we're never going to prove or disprove it. It's he said, she said, so why delay this any further? It is clear as day that the Democrats are trying to gin up the hysteria machine and order to delay this this confirmation so that they can delay delay it through the midterms and then appointed supreme court, Justice, twenty. That their objective responded to on the facts of. The issue of testifying now the FBI investigating and so on that not being necessary in effect. Tell me your response. I'm sorry that it's not necessary for her to testify at all or that it's just. I'm just giving you a chance to respond to Amy. Oh, oh, well, my pleasure. I mean, look, let's Amy opened up saying, let's talk about facts. I do wanna talk about facts when Anita hill brought charges against Clarence Thomas, a Republican president ordered the FBI to investigate. It is absolutely the FBI's role to investigate nominees for something like this, and I just want to reiterate something. This is a lifetime appointment to the highest court in our land. This man will we making life and death decisions and Republicans are turn a rush by a matter of days to jam him through simply because they don't want the truth to come out. And again, I don't understand why Republican Senator no hold on a sec. Hold on a sec. You said that it's he said, she said, and that's exactly all we're going to have if we don't allow the FBI to investigate, let's let law enforcement professionals lay out a clean explanation of all the facts and then absolute. Both sides should testify and we should hear from them. And by the way we should hear from other witnesses. I just don't understand why these Republicans can't do their job. Their job is to vet these people in these guys just want to jam this. Let me ask you because I want to get it into different way if I can. Couldn't you make an argument that it is fair to Brit Cavagnaud to have a full investigation, right? Because you have this alarming allegation out there. Would it not also offer him an opportunity to potentially clear his name to have the FBI chase down the leads talk to other witnesses. I mean, I personally have no problem with it. I think that that Chuck Grassley should if FBI wants to do it, go do it. We'll have the hearing on Monday. She doesn't want to testify that's up to her, and then they'll call the vote afterwards. That's exactly what they should do. But if I were Brett Cavanaugh, I would want it done because I would want to clear my name and if it's not factual, if this did not happen, I'd sue for defamation. That's. That's progress there. We, we agree that would add some value route. Robert. Let me ask you this though because now Ford has been offered an opportunity to make this allegation provide details under oath. Listen, I want to acknowledge as we did in the previous segment that she's under enormous pressure. Now, she's had to leave her house. She's under death threats. She's got children. None of us can identify with that. So we have to factor that into this timeline, but, but just on the point of testifying, whether in public or in private, should she not take that opportunity. I think that she should testify and I want to underscore where you just said, I cannot imagine what she is dealing with right now and the kind of bravery this is requiring. This was, you know, this was put on her and she has stepped up to the situation. But I also think that it is fair for her and for the process for her to insist that we follow protocol and I and I have to say, and it's sad that I that any of us have to say this. She cannot trust these Republican senators to do what's right, and they are trying to set so they can campaign manager. So. The final chance to. Joe, I don't think I don't think that's at all relevant here is, you know, they are trying to set this up so that they can bully her, and I think it is perfectly within her rights to ask that this is done the way it was over twenty years ago by Republican president to his nominee the same way we are now with Trump and a process by the way that's been criticized since that time as unfair. I think that's the least that we can do. And by the way, I think it's the least we can ask of our United States. Senators whose job is to put honest good people in this lifetime point. So so. Would would that twenty-seven years ago, would that not show lack of progress? If if that chance wasn't afforded here to the days, I said she has been given every opportunity. Chuck Grassley has said they'll fly to California. They'll do it behind closed doors, whatever she wants. They want to hear from her. She can't even answer the Email. The Terni is putting out public statements, but they will answer Chuck Grassley in the Senate Judiciary committee. This is a PR studt the the democrat firm s. k. d. knickerbockers involved in it. I mean, I was born in the morning, but not this morning and we all know what's going on here. You're trying to de rail a confirmation and the Republicans. Thank goodness are not buying it anymore. I think you call what she's doing. Publicity stunt is really sad and says a lot about this administration. I mean, Robbie, we're going to have to leave it there. It's a tough one. We're gonna. We're gonna keep. We're gonna. Keep on this story out front next questions about Christine. 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The breaking news in a new statement, a lawyer for cavenaugh accuser, Christine Blasi. Ford is reiterating the danger that her client is in saying, quote, she is currently unable to go home and is receiving ongoing threats to her and her family's safety. This is more people are coming to Ford's defense. The time spoke to several people who have known for professionally and personally for years. One professor who's known Ford for fourteen years telling the times quote, I know her to be an honorable, honest, straightforward, decent person. I can't conceive of doing this for any other reason than she is honestly reporting what she's experienced out front now is Maya loud. She was one of the reporters who wrote this story here. My my understanding is spoke with several people who know Christine, blowzy four, they know her well, they've known for a number of years. What does the common thread that you've heard from that. They held her in very high regard. They have a lot of respect for her. I spoke to chew Stanford professors, both of whom have worked with her for over ten years, have written scholarly papers with her have taught grad students with her. Both of them said that she is very well liked by students. She's lovely to work with. She's professional. She has a lot of integrity and a lot of her work centers on statistics and in analyzing massive amounts of data and interrogating it and saying, can we really say this about the data? Is this data really saying this? And that that kind of work requires a level of integrity and the they. They really feel that she has that for transparency for viewers. How did you find these people were their names provided to you? Did you track them down yourself? They're definitely not provided to us. We did a lot of old fashioned shoe, leather reporting. I knocked on a lot of doors made a lot of calls set in my colleagues and we, we reach out to a lot of people. That's what reporters do allow. Thanks very much for sharing what you found out front. Now, Paul Callan, Wendy Murphy, both Murphy both former prosecutors, Paul, I, if I could begin with you, a lot of people have come to Ford's defense as you hear and again, you're, you're watching this from afar. You have no personal knowledge of what happened here. But as an experienced prosecutor, do find her allegation credible. Well, I've worked as a prosecutor and a defense attorney, and I've tried cases where people have been acquitted for this sort of charge. And when I look at this case, first of all, it's thirty six years old. I mean, we're reaching back to high school to try to resurrect this claim against judge Cavanaugh and it's almost impossible to prove a case of that age and what prosecutors look at. They look at to see if there was a fresh complaint made about the alleged rape or attempted rape at the time of the incident. And of course there was none may. Made for at least another twenty years. Just think about the Cosby kiss for minute that's dominated American coverage of the courts. This case is twenty years older than the criminal case he was tried on. So if you were trying this case, it would be one of the oldest rape cases in America, very difficult to prove to a jury, Wendy experienced prosecutor as well. There's been some criticism from Republicans who say, well, she can't remember some of the key details here exact date exact location that said, she does share vivid details of the experience itself. In your experience, what does that tell you? Well, it tells me she was traumatized, you know, I can't remember where I was in anybody's particular house thirty five years ago, but I suspect that if I had been sexually assaulted, I remember lots of things about the sexual assault. I might not remember the details that weren't related to the trauma, but I would remember the trauma and I have to disagree with Paul about whether this case is weak because it's old, how many of the Catholic church abuse cases that were very successful, highly credible and the church spent billions of dollars settling them. Have we heard about in the past ten years with no other evidence, but for the credible word of an adult who describes something that happened many, many years earlier often as a child. Here's why I think she's credible. And I think this is such objectively clear proof of her credibility that I think it's going to be a hard hard time for the Republicans to disprove at least the issue of whether she's motivated to lie based on. Politics, and I think that's the strongest point. And it's this if she's motivated to lie for political reasons. And she just came up with this cockamamie story because she wants to hurt judge Cavanaugh, which I suppose is possible. But why in God's name would she have named his friend as the eyewitness knowing damn well, that he would be coming forward saying, she's wrong. I never saw. She's lying. I'm on his side. He's the best thing since lice bread. So as a prosecutor, when I think about the evidence that it is absolutely not an easy case, one way or the other, they're both respectable. They're both highly educated. They come with lots of character witnesses on their sides. That's not the issue. The issue. I just want to win. Say. I just wanted to talk about. Good. What what I'm trying to emphasize here is that you look for small things like if she's lying, would she have named his friend as the key eyewitness knowing that would hurt her credibility? And the answer is, no, that's why I think she's to let me just. To address? Why would she name him name smart judge as being in the room. When this occurred with Mark judge happens to be a blackout. Somebody who's admitted to being a blackout drunk. He's written books about it. So if you were going to pick somebody to put in the room. You couldn't pick a better person than somebody who was completely drunk and. Unable really to contradict her version of events. The other thing to remember is she if she's saying that Cavanaugh was really trying to rape her and she managed to escape from the room, she goes into the bathroom and a rapist would've pursued her. But these two young men went downstairs according to her testimony and remained in the house. She then left the house self reported it to her parents. So, and this is ninety six years ago. So you're telling me. Tell you why don't talk politics though, since one of the one of the reasons, one of the other reasons she's credible is because she didn't overstate what happened. If you're trying to derailed, judge Kavanagh's nomination, you don't say he jumped on me and grabbed at my clothes. You say he grabbed my breast, he put his hands down my pants. She didn't do that for something. Horrific means there's no, no Paul, it suggests that Paul, it suggests that she's credible because she's not over doing it. And of course she didn't have to name Mark judge at all. If this was a lie, she could've just said Brett Cavanaugh was there and me, and that's it. The fact that she added Mark judge to the story is why she's credible because it makes no sense for someone who's lying to include stories book and what he says. Could it there, but thanks to both of you, Wendy. Thank you. Paul for sharing your spirits on this out front next President Trump with his most vicious attack yet on Jeff Sessions. So why does it he just fire him and Trump meets with hurricane survivors. It's been a tough role for him at times in the past, how did he do today? My name is Paul Shirley, and I've gone on a lot of dates. I've noticed something on these dates. I often find myself telling the same stories stories about my mother teaching sex Ed stories about playing college basketball stories about playing NBA basketball and almost dying in the process. We all do this. We tell stories on dates because dates or when we get to explain where we've been and what we've seen in why we think like we do my name is Paul Shirley, and I hope you'll check out my new narrative podcast stories I tell on dates, you can subscribe for free on apple podcasts or wherever you find your favorite shows. President Trump with his toughest attack yet on attorney general Jeff Sessions Trump in an interview released earlier today, saying, quote, I don't have an attorney general the president who has long denounced sessions for recusing himself from the Russian investigation added that his anger was about more than just the recusals saying, quote, I'm not happy at the border. I'm not happy with numerous things, not just this democratic congressman, Ted lieu of California joins me. Now he sits on the House Judiciary committee, congressman, thanks very much for taking the time. Thank you, Jim, as listed. This is not the first criticism leveled at the attorney general Jeff Sessions from President Trump, but this was particularly pointed. I have no attorney general do see the president here, laying the groundwork to fire Jeff Sessions after the midterms or trying to force them out for him to resign. Thank you for your question on the judiciary committee, we have oversight over the apartment of Justice, and it's clear that Jeff Sessions is aligned with the Trump administration on basically every issue except the Russia investigation. So Donald Trump would have fired Jeff Sessions that would be obstruction of Justice because he wants to put someone in who will interfere with special counsel molar or potentially fire him. That's similar to what Richard Nixon did with the Saturday night massacre where you fire numerous department Justice officials to get at the special counsel. I hope Donald Trump doesn't do that. You believe you, you don't want him to fire sessions and you don't believe session should resign. That is correct. I believe the special counsels integrity and interference from punchy different person will be put in would be worse than have Jeff Sessions would resign or be fired. Well, let me ask you this because I, I wanna see how you wreck you reconcile this because you you have. We've noted before you've been critical of sessions in the past saying that he should go have a listen. I don't even know why he is still Torney general. He'd lie before congress order to get confirmed. That's perjury charge. He also lied on his security clearance forms about his Russian meetings. Those are false official statements. He should've resigned months ago. Why we so certain Dan. And why do you feel differently now. I was wrong. Jim. I have seen their increasing evidence of collusion regarding not just Trump associates, but also those people potentially higher up in the White House, including perhaps the president. And I have now come to a conclusion that preserving the independence of the special counsel is more important than Jeff Sessions, resigning fair. We give everybody a chance to to to change their positions. I, I wonder if I could move on to another topic. Of course, one that we've been discussing in great detail the sexual assault allegation against the supreme court nominee. Brett cabinet is accuser, Christine, Blasi Ford. She just released a statement tonight saying, she described it this way. There are multiple witnesses whose names have appeared publicly and should be included in any proceeding. The rush to a hearing is unnecessary and contrary to the committee discovering the truth. Now she has been offered this chance to speak. She's asking here for other witnesses to testify there. Is it fair to say that she's moving the goalposts on. On this opportunity to speak this testimony on Monday or the at least the offer to give testimony on Monday. No, it's actually the Republicans who are breaking were precedent during the Nita hill hearings. They had FBI investigation. It took less than a week. In fact, the president could order an FBI investigation today, they'll be done likely by the end of this week and Anita hill head other witnesses as well. So I think Republicans simply follow precedent and not rush through what would be a lifetime appointment. There's nothing magical about this coming Monday. There's nothing that says they have to have a vote on that day. Fair point. Do you believe that the criticism that the that Senate, the ranking democrat on the on the judiciary committee, Dianne Feinstein that she had word of this allegation for a number of weeks. Now, she has said that that Ford did not want her name out there did not want it released to the public, but they're even some Democrats is said that Feinstein could have shared this anonymously with other members of the committee could have gone to the FBI earlier than she did last week when the name leaked out. Do you think that that Chris. System is fair. Not at all. I think Senator Feinstein did the right thing by preserving the confidentiality and the wishes of Dr Ford. I don't think people should be judging Senator Feinstein unless they were in that exact same position. That's a very difficult situation for Senator Feinstein to have handled. I think she handled it well, congressman, Ted lieu. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you. Jim out for next President Trump touring the Carolinas in the wake of hurricane Florence. Come here. And Judy most on the giant typo flown around the world. 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Was there something going on behind the scenes that made him suppose you say, step up his game here as he went down to the Carolinas storms, like these are always a big test for presidents because they don't only test the competency of their administration, but also their empathy is well, and one little mishap can hang over there presidency forever and their legacy forever. Even after they've left the White House, you've seen that clearly George W Bush whose name is now synonymous with Hurricane Katrina. So certainly a big test. There's a lot on the line here when they're handling these storms, and they don't just have the human aspect of making sure everyone's okay and making sure people power and water. They also have a political aspect of course, worldly few short weeks away from the mid terms. And in Carolina, President Trump is hoping that governor McMaster wins his reelection bid. So a lot at stake here, of course, but especially for President Trump who was widely criticized. In the days leading up to the storm for how he handled Puerto Rico. And we saw the president very sensitive to that criticism because he lashed out disputing the death toll saying that three thousand people did it die. Even though a pretty comprehensive study concluded that was how many people did as a result of hurricane, Maria when it hit Puerto Rico in devastated the area. So that's why so much on the line today. But by all means, President Trump critics will say he did have a successful day. He went through, he shook hands. As you said, he handed out meals and he really played that role of consoler cheap. Say the president has passed, had some cringe worthy moments, hard. Forget that image of him flipping those paper towels to survivors of hurricane Maria, Puerto Rico today, there was this moment. Norman, that area. How's that doing student? Good, but still I love that area just I can't tell you, but I love that. I can't tell you why, but I love that area. What was Trump referring to there? Yeah. Jimmy says he can't tell us why, but it may have something to do with eighteen hole golf course that bears his name and it sits on the shores of lake Norman there near Charlotte, North Carolina, the president checking in on that today, seeing how they fared. Of course, the president does has, we know has a high interest in his properties which he often visits normally golf course outside of Washington. His hotel and restaurant here as well as clubs in Bedminster New Jersey in Palm Beach, Florida. So certainly that making it an aspect that the president involved in his well while he was there touring that storm damage, Scotland as well. Kaelin Collins. Thanks very much next genie, most with proof that everybody needs a really good copy editor. Soccer fans are you? Tired of missing? 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Brooke Baldwin, you're watching CNN on this Friday, we begin with breaking news and the Russia probe and associated the president's friend longtime adviser Roger stone is in quote unquote, plea negotiations with special counsel, Robert Muller. Jerome Corsi is his name. He also knows President Trump. He wouldn't comment further to CNN about these talks. But course, he's role in this investigation. Largely revolves around the possibility that he may have been an intermediate intermediary easy for me to say between Roger stone and WikiLeaks specifically in the time before the thousand sixteen release of hacked emails that were damaging to the Clinton campaign Corsey is a well known conspiracy theorist, and if a deal comes through it would indicate that he was actually speaking the truth just a couple of days ago when he predicted an indictment from Muller was coming. Served a subpoena on August twenty eighth. My home to be agent show oven announced. And not talk to the FBI course. My wife is pretty startled. We began a series of discussions with them that have gone on for two months. And at the end of that two months, even though I did everything I could to cooperate. The entire negotiations discussions of just blown up. And now, I fully anticipate in the next few days, I will be indicted. By Mueller for some former other of giving false information to the special counsel or to one of the other grand jury or however they want to do the indictment, but I'm going to be criminally charged. Now, the subpoena came to my home. Three days before my seventy second birthday and others. Been one of the most frightening experiences in my life. Let me turn out CNN senior national correspondent, Alex Mark wired, and Alex reminders the role the relationship that Corsi had with stone. And and how he's involved in all of this and how he may potentially be a witness against Roger stone Coursey says that he is in talks you just heard there with the Muller team. But this time he's talking about a possible plea deal, which he has confirmed to CNN, and that means that these special counsel will certainly have a lot of questions about that relationship that he has with Roger stone. And what information was shared between the two of them. Of course, he is not someone many people may have heard of he's a bit of a fringe player and all of this, but he could provide a crucial missing link between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign specifically with regards to any possible coordination with WikiLeaks and the release of hacked democratic emails in two thousand sixteen before the election. Of course, he has said he was not in direct contact with the group. He did not have a source inside WikiLeaks. He claims that he simply developed a. Theory that the Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, the his emails had been obtained by WikiLeaks, and that they would be released in October right before the election that of course, then did happen. Of course, he says he shared that prediction with Roger stone that it was based on open information and the prior release by WikiLeaks of DNC emails on us. I note, of course, that prediction then turned out to be true. And as you noted, of course, he is a conspiracy theorist he and President Trump were allies in the birther conspiracy that President Trump President Obama rather was not born in the United States, which of course, Brooke, we know. Well is not true. So we have to emphasize that we don't know the status of any plea deal. Four Coursey negotiations are ongoing they can always fall apart. And for now, of course, he isn't saying anything more, Brooke, Alex, Sankyo, let's analyze all of this was C N N legal analyst, Paul Callan. He has a former prosecutor so Paul Callan. If if Coursey does flip that could be bad news for Roger stone. What could he review? Feel and how might that play into the bigger picture of collusion? Well, yes, it could be bad news for Roger stone. And it also could provide a link back to the president because mother is now circling back to the Trump campaign, and he's doing exactly what he was told to do when he was hired for this job, and that is focused on any connections. If there were any between, the Trump campaign and the hacking of emails by the Russians to influence the American election now Roger stone originally said he got his information about WikiLeaks which sounded like he was in direct contact with Julian Assange, not from signs himself. But from a talk radio talk host in brandy portico, this now the connection with Coursey is an entirely different connection with of course, he indicating that he got information. Well, he speculated successfully that WikiLeaks would be leaking this information. But course, he is also linked to President Trump. And he's linked to Roger stone as well. So it's kind of all of these pieces. These chess pieces are being put together on a chess board by Muller. If Corsey is in plea negotiations Paul does that mean that he's given up the goods or does it mean he is willing to give up the goods if he gets a good deal? I it means that he's making a proffer to federal authorities in in these proffer sessions. Your lawyer goes in and says, listen, this is the information he'll give you we think it'll help your case. And but he's not going to do that under oath unless you offer a deal. Now, the prosecutors intern have to say he's selling something we need to make a case out or to finish the investigation, and they're not going to offer him a deal unless he's got valuable information that they really can't prove through other sources. When we heard from Rudy Giuliani. Trump's layer earlier this week, and he was talking about those written answers that Trump provided to molar. This is what axios had reported quoting them Muller asked about the Russian hacks during the campaign that immediately followed Trump's July twenty seven two thousand sixteen press conference in Florida when Trump said we all remember that Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand Hillary Clinton emails that are missing we know that you know, Muller has been circling around Roger stone might Corsi be that this smoking gun and be the definitive proof of the link between Russian hackers and WikiLeaks to the Trump campaign might. Yes, Brooke, I think Coursey could be missing Lincoln investigation. That's putting everything together. And I find it fascinating. That Muller is so focused on this. He's on the one hand going after the president with specific questions about this very. Subject. He there are lots of rumors out about Roger stone. And now, we know that he's he's putting pressure on Coursey. So there seems to be a sort of a laser beam focus of the Muller investigation now on this particular set of individuals, and it all has to do with collusion, or the very thing that the president has repeatedly said, there's no evolution collusion, though, doesn't exist. What if it does exist? These are the people who Muller would be focusing on to prove it. We have just gotten a statement in from Roger stone as we've been talking. So let me just read this for you, Paul Callan. This is what Roger stone says as one can see from his recent videos, and his recent interviews, my friend, Dr Coursey has been under a tremendous amount of pressure. And it is beginning to affect him profoundly. He has stated publicly that he is being asked over and over to say things, he simply does not believe occurred. I am not aware of any plea talks involving Dr Coursey he is an investigative journalist who. Activities. I would think would largely be covered under the first amendment. He is relentless in his research and his network of sources is very wide as for what he may have known. And when he may have known it his discussions with me regarding the pedestrian brothers were strictly limited to their overseas. Business interests unearthed in the Panama papers and other public sources that were writing about John and Tony's activities to my best recollection. There was not one publication mainstream or otherwise that ever mentioned John Podesta's Email prior to their posting by WikiLeaks as I told the Washington Post, if Dr Coursey knew that John Podesta's emails had been obtained by anyone and will be published. He never shared this information with me, nor did he give me any such documents. That's Roger stone your reaction. Roger stone is talking like a very worried individual. He's making before the knowing. What Coursey is saying to the Muller in investigators. He's, you know, making this very detailed public statements and try to distance himself and also to say Coursey is under tremendous pressure. Well, how it stone know that unless he's had discussions with Coursey about this very subject, and you can be sure that the Muller lawyers are going to be asking Coursey about what discussions he's had with Roger stone. It's always dangerous when two people who are being looked at by investigators are sitting down with one another to let's say discuss the facts of the case a lotta times prosecutors described that as getting their stories straight. So we'll have to see how the Muller team handles it feeling the pressure Paul Callan. Thank you. Thank you. Brooke eight q. Also now this breaking story after a long week of headlines coming out of the White House. I just look at all the happenings team Trump since last Saturday. Let me read this for you his controversial visit to the wildfires. His insult of the Admiral who oversaw the bin Laden raid, his regrets to not visit Arlington National Cemetery on Veterans Day, his reply that he did not know his acting attorney general spoke out whatsoever on the Muller probe Hayes asylum ban, getting overturned in courts, the fact that he still hasn't visited an active war zone. The White House. Fully restoring our chief White House correspondent, Jim Acosta's. His press pass his mission of written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation his feud with supreme court Justice John Roberts, his stand with the Saudis, despite the CIA saying the crown prince ordered the hit on US based journalist Jamal kashogi his acting AG under investigation for campaign contributions. Keeping in mind. This whole Benny holiday week, folks. Just yesterday his wild politicize phone call with troops on Thanksgiving Day and on that call the president once again defended his position of backing the Saudi Royal family saying that the quote unquote, did not come to a conclusion in quote on the crown prince's involvements be now that the democratic majority in the house are soon to be wants to put that to the test come twenty nineteen. So for more on that. Let's go to CNN White House reporter, Sarah Westwood and Sarah. What is the ranking house Intel com member congressman Adam Schiff now saying he wants to do? Well, Brooke congressman Adam Schiff who will soon. Take over the house intelligence committee is saying that his committee will look into the death of Jamal Kush. Shook she and how the administration is responding to it. And that's just part of what House Democrats say they're going to go after this president for obviously, we know they're going to target President Trump over his tax returns. We know that they're going to target the president over areas where his foreign policy might have overlapped with his business interests. That's something that the ranking member soon to be chairman Adam Schiff says he wants to go after now, the president is projecting a sense of optimism a sense of that his White House is not worried about democratic investigations. But of course, a lot of Republicans have been warning that the president will soon face some kind of reality. Check win. Democrats do sweep into power come January. He's never had to preside over divided government, and this cushy murder and the way that his administration has handled it in light of the fact that the president. Has had business dealings in Saudi Arabia prior to taking office certainly going to be a focus of Democrats at certainly been appointed criticism up to now stay on that reality check, Sarah. Thank you very much. And without let me bring in CNN political analyst, Margaret talev senior White House correspondent for Bloomberg news, and Margaret so here, we go we've talked about Democrats walking the line at investigations once they're in charge. They are certainly not shying away all of three weeks after midterms and look at what soon to be chairman Schiff is doing. Yeah. But this is sort of a no brainer. Right. I mean, the Democrats so far the big tension has been over the impeachment question with the new democratic majority coming into the house. Some of these new members are on the more liberal or more progressive side than their kind of longer term, you know, career politicians who were like guys. Let's look at history. What happened in the nineties, you know, in the Clinton administration. So to the extent which folks both on the Intel committee, and the government reform and oversight of panels, Ken tackle, sort of new merging issues like this one. It seems like a no brainer. This would be the course that Schiff would want to take so on the no brainer. We know the Democrats plan to look at whether Trump is deliberately misrepresentation misrepresent talk I had a lot of Turkey yesterday market. Forgive me misrepresenting, the conclusion to protect NBS, you know, the Democrats specifically wanna look at Trump's financial. Ties to Saudi Arabia, and I say financial ties because as you cover this president that is mighty close to what he is referred to as the red line is not. Well, that's true. The president has talked about to the extent that mister Muller's probe delved into business dealings that would be a red line for him. The president also is sort of a class outside of other American presidents have our time because he had this entire business career and a business empire that continues to exist. And so these are not issues, you know, that. Sending all the side of the particulars of this just in general, the sort of parallel structure of having a business in licensing empire and family members kind of some in the business side, and some of the White House side that is not something that President Obama or President Bush before him have had to contend with. So look already setting all of this aside. We know that in January when the Democrats took over the house that there would be a lot more of a stepped up look at both the aspects of the mother probe and aspects of foreign policy in the presence dealings. But this is all now been ratcheted enough. So that's yes, that's, you know, January even as early as next week world will be watching as both Trump, and we'll have been so mind, we'll be at the g twenty right? The world. We watching that. We'll be watching how we you know is with Vladimir Putin. And of course, also China's president Xi is is everyone's gonna. Be in Argentina. And we know the president, of course, has been watching the markets very very carefully on. He knows the economy matters so much to to Americans. Do you think next week Trump tries to get a deal with she in? What does Arias a lot of people are going to be looking at this. And look there are two issues that the twenty is supposed to tackle right one is trade and the other is climate change. But if APEC is any sort of a guy to us, you see a willingness on the part of the president to kind of put a stick in the wheels. If if it serves his his message anger, if he feels that he can be successful with that sort of a challenge. So all eyes are certainly going to be on whether or not she and President Trump can reach some sort of an accommodation that may have a lot to do with how much the Chinese are willing to give up to make some sort of deal happen. The president does not at this point seem to to be looking for a reason. To blink. But his next week G twenty Margaret talev. 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And we look forward to your recovery and getting back here at C N N as soon as you can also just into CNN. The White House is asking the US supreme court to take up the administration's transgender military ban. So far federal judges have blocked President Trump from banning most transgender people from openly serving in the US military. So to Joe this cubic, we go our CNN supreme court analyst Joan what's going on here. More action between the supreme court and administration actually got here. Yes, right now, President Trump's ban. On most transgender people serving in the US military is being litigated in lower courts. Lower courts blocked, the policy from fully taking FEC and the Trump administration instead of waiting for the full airing in lower courts, which normally is the way has jumped up to the supreme court and said justices, please intervene at this time. They've just recent just within the hour, Brooke filed petitions at the supreme court in three cases from California and here in the district of Columbia saying come in review it and the timing they're seeking his review for this court term. Usually, the justices decide by January what cases they will hear through April. And then we had the big rulings in June. And what the Trump administration's lawyers at the department of Justice are saying is this is important to get clarity right now. Not to have lower courts, hold this up and have any kind of either inconsistencies or just plain block on this. New policy that the Trump administration would want to to bar transgender transgender people from serving supreme court justices, please resolve this right away. Do you think the supreme court would take it? This is a tough one brook because normally no normally it's very hard to take to make a case for the justices intervening lower courts have in a preliminary way say said that this this could violate the equality guarantee of the constitution to say that a certain group of people would be prohibited from serving based solely on the fact that they're transgender so they have a very high bar to pass. And they're the administration has a high bar to pass and they have a high barrier to pass in a compressed period of time. Now earlier in the week. We saw President Trump referred to judges as either Obama judges or Clinton judges. Now, we certainly have some shrunk judges now on the court, and I think the department. Of Justice might think that they might be getting much more of a sympathetic airing. But I don't know I think that if the court under John Roberts agrees to take this up in this kind of urgent manner. It would be sending a signal that would be more favorable to the Trump administration than usual to an administration. Well, Washington see if they do Joan good to see you. Thank you very much. Thank you coming up next. Some of his chilling last words quoting him. God, I don't want to die with his diary reveals about an American who was tacked with arrows and killed on a remote island by one of the world's most isolated tribes. Also happening the government dropping a major report on the human impact of climate change. What it reveals and also the timing. Why was this released the day after thanksgiving? You know, what's not smart job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. But you know, what is smart ZipRecruiter dot com slash out front. Unlike other job sites, ZipRecruiter doesn't wait for candidates to find you ZipRecruiter finds them for you. It's powerful matching. 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The climate change is not exactly a top priority for this White House. President Trump has frequently doubted its existence and has called it a hoax. So for more. Here's C N, N's, Rene, Marsh and Rene. This report offers as we mentioned more of an ominous outlook what's in the report. Yeah. So this report came out roughly thirty minutes ago, it's hundreds of pages long as you mentioned. This is a government report that focuses squarely on the human impacts of climate change people here in the United States and really peels out real life examples of how climate change is already impacting our life when it comes to health the economic costs the impact on our transportation infrastructure. So I'm gonna just pull out a couple of the highlights here as we continue to go through. Port one of the studying highlights here's that wildfires which were seeing out west they say if this is not brought under control wildfire season will burn up to six times more forest area per year by the year twenty fifty and when it comes to mosquito borne illnesses. The report also says more people will be exposed to ticks that carry Lyme disease and mosquito that transplant mitt viruses such as Zeka West Nile virus and gay fever, again, this will be across the United States. And when it comes to our health the impact that climate change will have on our health of this report says that the higher temperatures will simply kill more people. They also highlight the midwest they predict that the midwest will have the highest temperature rise in in the mid west. They could see additional two thousand more premature deaths per year by. The year twenty ninety again, these are just a few of the highlights. The report also goes on to talk about the economic impact. It says the net damage to the US economy throughout this century. We could see annual losses in some sectors that reach hundreds of billions of dollars by the end of the century. So there's no good news in this report. Of course, it all runs counter to what we have heard from President Trump as well as the policies that we've seen at agencies like the EPA as they continue to roll back regulations that are intended to curb these dangerous greenhouse gases that scientists say without question contribute to climate. Change broke seems like crucial details that is out this day after thanksgiving perhaps in an attempt to bury it a bit. We're going to keep reading this millet you and your team keep reading these hundreds of pages, and we'll have more Rene as we go through it. Thank you very much for. Forgetting those those keynotes there. Now this in American missionary wrote about his final days before being killed on this remote island off the Indian coast. His name is John Alan Chow. He was killed why illegally visiting the north sentinel island last week. He wrote about how he had been shot out with a bow and arrow, and how did pierced his bible one journal entry. He writes, quote, you guys might think I'm crazy in all of this. But I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. God, I don't want to die. How was his final note whose family who say they forgive the tribesmen responsible for his death. So for more we turn now to C N N New Delhi bureau chief, Nick he'll Kumar. Brooke the latest we have from Indian authorities is that they're still trying to locate the body of an American Christian missionary who is believed to have been killed by an isolated tribe after he visited that remote island community. Police say Twenty-seven-year-old Jon Allen child came to India on a tourist visa, but he went to the country's north sentinel island to preach and convert its inhabitants. Tribes people known as the sentinel lease who are protected by Indian Lloyd's tiny community with estimates ranging from just about a dozen or so to eight people the island itself sits off India's east coast, and is strictly off limits for tourists such as child they're not allowed within five nautical miles of the island the rule meant to protect both the tribe and outside is because of the tribes history of fully repelling strangers. But child went he found local fishermen who could take him close to the island in mid-november police say he used a canoe the rest of the way days later, the fishermen say they sold the tribes people dragging cows. Body around the island. Now, his dad hasn't been independently verified by the police that going by what the fishermen who been arrested for facilitating Chaz trip told him. Meanwhile, a friend of childho- CNN that he knew that the island was off limits, and there is mission was illegal. But he went nonetheless and all appears ended in tragedy. Brooke authorities have sent out a team of experts in the waters near the island to see if they can spot child's body. They've been accompanied by the fishermen who say they sold a body if they find it. The next step will be working out how to recover it. Brooke, nicole? Thank you with me now on the phone, a friend of John's not Steve or Matt traveled with with Chow once on a trip to Israel. And and Matt thank you so much for jumping on the phone with me. I'm so sorry about your friend. And if I may before we talk I just wanted to read one more quote from John's journal, he described being shot out with a bow and arrow, and then writing I hollered my name is John. I love you. And Jesus loves you. You know, the question is, you know, I appreciate his desire to spread the gospel and his passion, but to go to all these far flung places dangerous places. Can you help us understand why he felt so compelled to do so sure thank you, Brooke, and certainly our heart and prayers and thoughts go out to the child family as they gathered for thanksgiving without John with them. You know, I met John show on a trip that we did in Israel called covenant journey and that was an August of twenty fifteen. He was twenty three years old at time now at the time of his death. He was one month away from turning twenty seven at the time. He was attending or Roberts university yard already gone on mission trips in South Africa, and from high school days somehow he had a real desire and passion to go to north sentinel. And the reason although he didn't articulate it. Then he. Told other people months in even years later, he wanted to go there because they were one of the most isolated people groups on the planet, and he wanted to share Jesus with them, and he went to that location. And unfortunately, that's where he from what all we know of met his last days. His journal entries are absolutely heartbreaking and compelling because they are that incident in which the aero was shot and hit his waterproof bible that he healed over his chest was on Thursday November of last week. And so we just a week ago. And he has a journal entry that he wanted to go back. He actually had his canoe taken by the sentinel lease people the day before so from the boat. He ultimately swam their fishermen left him there to be there overnight. And when they came back he. They saw him being dragged and shot and being buried, according to their story on the beach. But in his journal and his last words to his mom and dad, he said the words that you've already quoted, and he also said if they kill me don't be mad at them. They'll be angry at them. And it's just the nature of John. You have to understand really is. He was very lovey person. He loved people he loved Jesus he loved to be able to share the word of God with people, and he was willing in this case of especially when you read some of his last words to give his life to be able to do that he meant no harm to the people whatsoever. But he also knew that his life was in a dangerous specially when he got shot and fortunately survived, but then returned the day later and didn't survive the the final attack. Let me just let me repeat the. Those words again, some of his final words in his diary that you looted to my name is John. I love you. And Jesus loves you. And again, as we mentioned his parents have forgiven this tribe for doing this to him, Matt Stover? Thank you very much. Thank you winning me and telling us a little bit more about John cutting out next to the top democrat on the house intelligence committee confirms he plans to look into President Trump's response and personal ties to Saudi Arabia after giving the Royal family a pass on the murderer of US journalists Jamal kashogi Jamal's former editor at the Washington Post joins me next. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Zanny optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Xeni dot com. With the latest trends in eyewear available in hundreds of frames styles and materials there isn't a better way to change it up for every season. Plus, there's any offers prescription sunglasses that incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. That's Z E N N, I dot com slash CNN. President Trump citing with the Saudi government again, he continues to cast out on the findings about the murder of journalist. Jamaica Shoghi will arguing that Saudi money flowing into the United States is important not to lose instead of placing any blame on the crown prince he and his secretary of state are blaming what they describe as a dark and vicious world. It's a mean nasty world out there. The Middle East in particular, you take a look at what's going on in Iran, and the vicious the vicious situation that thinking place there in the number of people that are being killed them slaughtered. You take them all over the world. We're not going to be able to deal with let's deal with anybody. Maybe the world should be held accountable because the world is a vicious place. World is a very very vicious place. You look at what's happening in China. You look at what's happening in so many different countries and could name many countries you look at what's happening with terrorism all over the world. Karen is with me. She's a global opinions editor for the Washington Post, and it was Karen who recruited kashogi to the post about a year ago, so carrying always a pleasure to have you on. And I just wanted to you to react it the president saying it was the it's the world this vicious world to blame for Jamal's murder. What do you make that? It's just such a, you know for president and an administration that has been so preoccupied with projecting strength with projecting America. First just as such a sort of weak and cynical statement, and it denotes sort of helplessness in the face of of human rights abuses of repression and says nothing of you know, our role in at least in this case and the case of Jamal's murder in the case of the war in Yemen. In the case of what we're seeing to be, you know, a an global instability in in refreshing coming from Saudi Arabia denying that we have any sort of role to play in stopping this. And it just it just makes us look helpless. And that is not the case, we are not. As the United States of America as a country that Saudi Arabia depends very much on for for its its economy. And it's frankly, it's it's survival. The the the statement that the that the president released a couple of days ago. I haven't spoken with you since he released a statement, citing with the Saudis, you know, the line. Maybe he did maybe he didn't referring to NBS of the whole thing. What was most unsettling to you? When you first read it. I mean beyond the fact that, you know, as as far as a statement goes it was written as if it was penned by you know, a middle school or not the president of the United States. I think it just beyond smearing Jomo as as some sort of enemy of the state of Saudi Arabia, which he wasn't. I think it was most disturbing about that is first of all nobody is claiming that we want to break relations with Saudi Arabia. The problem isn't so much that it's the issue of Mohammed bin someone and the questioning our relationship with a man who, you know, not only most likely ordered the butchering of a Washington Post writer, but also has been the main architect of a vicious war in Yemen who has kidnapped a prime minister, the prime minister of Lebanon who has broken off diplomatic relations with Canada, and really and truly. Doesn't seem not even seem doesn't deserve. This unconditional support from the Trump administration that he seems to be enjoying. I mean, what can we point to as far as, you know, his rise three years ago from deputy crown prince Crump's now, there's nothing really that we can point to as far as any developments that have really ensured the stability of of the Middle East and EVA's country. So I think it makes us made us look like a servant of Saudi Arabia. Not a partner servant and there. There are people who do want to push further. I when I want to hold you over commercial break here. And I wanna ask you about the Democrats now looking to investigate specifically, the president financial ties financial ties to Saudi Arabia back in just a moment. I'm eighty can't this week on March man is prefixed five here from Tennessee's rant Williams for us. It's all about being tough, physical employed in line. Control on the board. Then guardian of understanding the game plan under stand. That's gotta report as well. As understanding what our goal is new episodes of March man is three sixty five are billable every Tuesday at apple podcasts spot, abide March madness dot com and wherever you listen to podcasts. Continuing my conversation with Canada global opinions editor for the Washington Post. And Karen what I wanted to ask you to is about how the soon to be chairman of the house intelligence committee. Adam Schiff, he told your paper the Democrats will indeed investigate the president's personal financial dealings with Saudi Arabia financial. Do you think that that could explain the president's response in all of this? I mean, I think this is absolutely something that we need to look into because the president's response again is is is bordering on the irrational at this point, considering you know, what are our own intelligence agency has concluded again, not guests not any sort of feelings. This is with high confidence in addition to the CIA as findings. We also know that intelligence from other countries, Germany UK also have similar intelligence as far as the again viciousness of Mohammed bin salon and in relation to this murder. So, you know, it's it's it's welcome in it's absolutely necessary. Because I think we need to underscore in. This case is that if if we allow, you know, our administration to turn a blind eye, and whether or not that's because of financial interests or not we're in a situation where a lot of. People's lives are an absolute danger. We you know, we can't allow for a blank check to be given to versus leaders who are just willing to silence anybody in anybody at any time any place. So I think Adam Schiff it's be need to send a message to to the administration as well that if there are conflicts of interest by conflicts of interest that are putting putting money basically before lives that needs to come to light. And that needs to end yet. Another piece of this Jason resign was on me earlier this week Jason Zion of the Washington Post. He told me that he feels a lot less safe working as a journalist in the US right now here he was. That's a journalist who has unfortunately, experienced some of that in the world. I feel a lot less safe today working in the United States of America than I did a couple of hours ago. And I think this is this a horrible message to be sending to the world really kind of condoning this murder only in the interest of our commercial dealings with Saudi Arabia. I was just wondering carrying if you feel the same way. And why? I agree with Jason I feel I also feel less safe. I'm more concerned with those who I work with who are who are from. You know, these regimes who who've been telling me for the last six weeks since two MOS murder that they are terrified for their lives. They are terrified that they can be taken out of somebody as prominent Jamal can just be taken out of the picture, and such a gruesome way that they feel that nobody will stand up to them, and nobody will will check. We'll check any of these leaders. And so I think that is that is what's at stake here that is it's beyond Jamal at this point. It's about whether or not we are willing to say enough is enough and journalists lives matter Herve, lives, matter, free, expression matters. And this has been such a this Jamal felt safe. I think Jamal felt safe in the United States. It's working for the Washington Post. And I think we also thought that that would be something that would protect him and the idea that it didn't is chilling. And so, but we have a chance I I don't want us to feel helpless, and I think the Democrats have massive role to play unprincipled Republicans people American citizens to to press on us to get to the bottom of this and to impose consequences on those who did this because lives on the line. People are being killed Democrats and Republicans keep speaking up. Karen, keep using your voice Karen Attiyah over at the Washington Post. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Breaking news is after new now Russia probe and associated longtime. 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Brews & The 'Boys: Is it time to panic for the Cowboys?

Blogging the Boys

36:39 min | 1 year ago

Brews & The 'Boys: Is it time to panic for the Cowboys?

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It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for this podcast brought to you by hsi-wei media blogging the boys the SP nation and vox media podcast and with me as always he's the man of every hour he is very very sour so am I my colleague at blogging the boys and the start beating up the cowboys from the jump this game was Tom just just a a a cataclysm of everything that's happened this season so far in with it this was just it was horrible it was and it was it was mystifying what what were they thinking downs where the cowboys were the game is still pretty competitive it's twenty four first downs that the cowboys had seventeen ran off there twenty two to the winless hapless Oh and four jets they get Sam darnold back after four weeks of mononucleosis and they just network where your friendly neighborhood podcast we're talking about Dallas Cowboys you know me folks my name is Michael Sizemore you can follow me on twitter at Mr Sizemore I feel like I said before we got on this podcast and I feel like you know this is such a cliche but we should go scorched earth but I do feel like that after the cowboys lose twenty four you keep continuously starting slow or or you know stick stick in the weapon and pointing than aiming and shooting yourself in the foot every single time any four first down Tom Temps Tom where they weren't into game where you have to throw to catch up or kneel down situations these are I the only opening drive score the cavaliers have had all season long yeah and it's it was field goal yeah it start a game it's going to catch up with you it caught up with them against the Green Bay packers in a big way it caught up with them the saints in fact the saints game is Walter Matthau to my Jack Lemmon we are grumpy today Mr Tom Rile a and you can find him on twitter at Tom Rile he's The New York giants Washington redskins and dolphins their wins on the season they still started slow in every single one of them and it was the same thing okay you run out bang they stay load up they stopped the first down you know you're not defeating the blitzes each game offensively this year and and Tom I mentioned it last night and I think you'll agree with me even into games where they fought they played one game you saw exactly everyone's frustration with the cowboys yeah you I guess crap the bid is about the only way you can put it in unless you WanNa give a little more yes yes they had they had thirty six total but twenty four are the only I down attempts that count in this one because of the those were the else to change and and that's what we're seeing were back to running on first down they they ran on first down I think seventeen times I mean you don't even know where to start well you start we'll start offensively and we'll start with the cowboys how they had started the team apparently got really conservative because okay you're starting tackles or both out you've got your your subs then add to score they're down twenty one to six they had a drive that had five first downs in it and they ran on every single one yeah maybe you have to kind of be considerate of that but okay when it hasn't worked for a whole half isn't it time to try to the creativity you know who taken Kellen Moore and and brainwashed him you know I I don't understand what's going on and you know you have suspicions and I just I was sitting there watching it going going like where did Scotland Hanson Beckon what is going on what has happened that Greg Williams and throwing at you and you're going to come out and you're GonNa do it again it was bad enough in the first half but when they came out at halftime they in the they just keep coming out it's what is well Saint Joe they say the a definition of insanity as you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect the the change things up the only thing that seemed to be happening was when Dak Prescott would throw the ball and the receiver would catch it because that wasn't happening enough especially on seventeen of them yeah and the the the one you know it was bad enough oh and they were averaging Tom real quick to point nine yards per carry yes yeah it was early on thanks Kinda got their rhythm and you can kind of go back in and do a little bit of of forensics on it you know you of the third quarter you know the cowboys due to further get the ball to start the second half and you're right they had fifteen offensive plays and five of them were were L. seven minute ten second drive take the you're taking the clock away from yourself when you need to get some fast scores and get back in op problems early and you've got take on Austin who had his probably best game as a cowboy and you know want his best game last year was against the Texans it unless they pull something out and salvage the season a bit but getting the plow somehow which is going to be I have I have not you know I've been Jason Garrett supporter for a long time and I was really happy about them hiring Chris Rashard but else tomorrow Cooper in the first half with his hamstring problem and so now all you're already down tackles like you mentioned a yeah and and you've you've for some reason that with just under eight minutes to go they don't get the ball back in the third quarter until there's two minutes left yeah another lost the cowboys had where you looked at it and just said got this team like you had mentioned Tom I'm sorry to cut you off but you've mentioned the first drive outs out Paul Callan Moore's cowboys come out in the first three games and do basically what they want okay but there was the you know the very famous the same offense that Jason Garrett has ran this game showed you that sometimes you can't perform within the dysfunction we're talking about running the clock out on yourself Tom all of that other nonsense defensively giving up a ninety two yard score which was offense it's the reason why Scotland Hand Light Kellen Moore it's the reason why they got together in the first place they understand each other's want they it's a variation of the air coryell memories we got what has happened unless they turn this around I can see a general housecleaning it might be time to to the longest play in the NFL this year and the longest second longest play in the jets history of their football team to Robbie Anderson you didn't activate Devon Smith for the game so you only dumb founding yet you had only had four receivers so now you've got Michael Gallup who had some and what you're seeing last night you are yesterday afternoon I should say Sunday afternoon is the cowboys were just going out there on every because Jeff Heath misses an angle it goes to show to me which is why we're coming back to coaching here and the way the cowboys have started games tom they don't see rushing at in the second half which is which looks okay that's pretty good but you're but you're you're behind and you're running the clock out on your side I very famous argument that I had with a colleague of ours last night about Kellyanne more not being innocent in this matter either I feel like this is you know maybe he's a young offensive coordinator who doesn't get much say as he would like to but Kellen Moore has always kind of ran the same I'm prepared to play football I don't know if this is all coaching or what it is or if it's just massive just bales of execution of the game and it's like what they they end up scoring a field goal a thirty two yard field goal by Brett Maher they ended up scoring you know forget Chris Rashard tell Rodman Marinelli's time to retire it may be time to move on from Jason Garrett and then you know you're going to have I think it's a little bit of both but something has got to be said now because the body language of the team after they scored their second field goal and walking oft to Pat Hands with Jason Garrett they didn't touch his hands they just walked right by him yeah it's it's there there's obviously most of the part of this this whole podcast because here's here's the issue you had mentioned Scotland a hand where did Scott Lenihan creep in and honestly I think we need to just stop having Scotland and as the scapegoat for this and this is not against Utah this is actually against all of us we all made a mistake blaming last year's woes on Scotland hand because we a tough given the this the last nine games when you go down and look who they've got the play there are not a whole lot of what looked to be like winds especially with the the recent century thinking to me but they they are kind of locked into this so they keep feeding Zeke and it creates this whole situation were passes all ten of them were runs to Zeke Elliott wrong and that they were they were getting a little more productive because Zeke Elliot had Sony are they might have had some good players they would have a couple of good plays here and there but they came far and few in between of all the mistakes they made all of the like you said NBA embarrassed you embarrassed because the cowboys were ten of seventeen on third down that's pretty damn good yeah that's pretty good they had where they are enabling their own failure and it's just it's just you know I didn't see Tom it's more of frustration and anger for the team as well and and it it really comes down are the coaches just putting them in a position to fail all the time you know on that we can say that he's really reverting to type because what happened those for games he was doing some things and and the the game that I really slow slow so sluggish they can't really get much going and even if they do get downfield there's GonNa be something that just wrexham like a penalty that takes them out of field goal ranger what you do is run into a crowded box and get tackled and because you have Zeke Elliott you're lucky to get one or two yards and and you letting them in this game because getting down to it is the offense what is what Dallas is struggling with Tom is their offense starts out so can be a foundation without being the entire offense that you have because what they seem to do now is they have this tendency of and you hear them say we do what we do defense I don't know if there's any excuse the offense has guys that are injured Tom they have guys that are Michael Gallup is not extremely healthy he had a couple of drops yesterday in all the coaches meeting rooms and and there should be a under issue says fix this yeah we've got to stop going out there and doing what they have a tendency to Co coaching wise to say especially under Jason Garrett because you know he wants a strong running team and that's what they build that's a foundation thing that keeps coming up as well he didn't have Ezekiel Elliott for the whole game because he was on he was on a snap out because he held out and I've I've written a post coming up the fire the new head coach and talk to him about what he wants to do with Keller more weather retain him or not yeah I WANNA get there I wanNA talk about coaches for most look at even did some things in the Green Bay game yet at a gifts against the giants you know DAK Prescott passes four hundred yards and the one the offense I think can fix itself with change and with point with actually players playing up to the level of play but the and so that book and aspect is actually working even though it doesn't look so great sometimes and two sacks is clearly not enough the the other team Sam Darnold came out said well the cowboys defense did what they always do that to me should be put on a poster and slapped up what have you or a missed field goal by Brett Maher then their defense is now being relied on to do what they were able to do last year and the beginning of last year which elite nothing outside of Robert Quinn Jordan Lewis yet and and and has been pointed out by some people demarcus Lawrence is still drawing double teams Scott he's got some kind of a little bagging injury we don't know about her or something and before we go to break I heard Mickey Spag Nola mentioned this about Jalen Smith and I think it's we do what we do okay well we don't care what others do you should start to care what others do okay because you're not doing what what nine penalties which is terrible for sixty eight yards but I mean the jets were killing themselves with penalties eight for one zero five they were killing themselves on offense but the cowboys on the Kellen Moore question is he being caged in or is this just really what is very and an eye with him I I'm not absolutely sure but with the rest of the defense you have to start asking is this schematic lease messed up and the the answer is kind of like well probably eight point Jalen Smith the cowboys have wanted to try to use him as a pass rusher I get that but why are you putting Jalen Smith as a defensive tackle are you not making sure you don't get burned like that ninety four yard backbreaking touchdown because at that point the game got out of my test sorry Cooper's dealing with a lot of different things that tackles are dealing with stuff but the defense his mostly pretty much all intact and they are doing absolutely the the I basically think the cowboys have a co dependency situation with with Zeke they they have this running back they want to lean on him they check out the American Ninja Warrior. Welcome to another edition of the bruise what are you getting accomplished. They're all he's getting alone off the line your can work it can work in some cases but you can't rely on there's something wrong with light and Van Rash because he is not performing at the way this is like it was better in this game than he was against the packers Shirley still believe that they have they should have just let him ninety million dollars exactly and they have still believe in the Rudd Center Golfing which you know is kind of nineteen was it didn't save them but at least Sean Lee had a decent game he was handed to have out there but you have to go back what are you doing wrong with the scheme the eating up attention which is one of the reasons why Quinn is getting the flashier stats because everyone's kind of focused on Lawrence and they're stopping him not able to get Quinn had scored two offensive touchdowns I think they said the whole season and they got free in the first half as like what how take better setup for for some of these saying you shouldn't have been giving up the three hundred yards passing and we're gonNA take a quick break we'll be right back on the Bruce and the boys Sir Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script the Matt yet so it's you know I don't know if you really want to keep going to that if you go to rush him you'd think we'll try to get him on the edge you know and if the but yes I think something is there with yes like you're saying he doesn't quite have the burst now you show last year and so and at his age you have to badly can you have prepared for this even though yeah darnold had been there so you did really have the the video to work off on that but still you should have been the end that was the point at which thank slipped away from them and then they could stop Sam darnold again on the when he got third touchdown at the a team that yeah generally had three tackles yesterday yeah retails is pathetic yeah and is is he hurting I I'm starting to wonder they do enduring the other team to beat them because the other teams right now are beating the pants off of their beating them an A. 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O. and four jets team kiss for a behind the scenes look at all the action of the show and more with your favorite competitors listening subscribe wherever you get your podcasts hey I'm and what that means and basically what is already spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP and we are back on the Bruce in the boys podcasts we're talking about the they lose to the eagles it's like I don't I don't see them coming back it's not mathematically impossible just with with teams like the Patriots Pointing Twenty four to twenty two lost the cowboys had on the road in New York against a Owen four jets team that just got their first win against the cowboys they got we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to I feel great they beat a three two team now the cowboys are three and three they face off against the Philadelphia Eagles this week thank goodness it's coming up there's going to be a lot of games that they're probably going to walk out with another loss they need a win they need to be in the driver's seat for the NFC east where there's on vacation and let me say that this this week may decide whether there's any hope left because it in Tom Rile for more visit bruising the boys dot com the cowboys have a lot of really talented football players that are not playing up to their level of talent yeah you've got a great performance engine but nothing else is fitting with it now and and that's kind of what you've got you've got a lot of yeah he does that and yet they they they don't WanNa put him ahead of Anthony Browne again here they do what they we we can sit around and we can we can point out the things that are wrong here and it's a long list of things but reality is this who who takes an an an old beat up car and drops of you know like a brand new corvette motorin to it okay thank you doing in the second half in the first half that's what's maddening you've got you've had six weeks now distort start sorting some of this out in it's not getting sorted at Oh boy have started this season where they are outscored thirty one to twenty in the first quarter they are outscored thirty six to thirty four in the second quarter the cowboys get a lot of points they're outscoring opponents thirty five are sorry fifty five to twenty four in the third quarter and forty four to twenty have to kind of focus on writing because otherwise you know my wife would probably be terrified order I'll be doing over there just raging same same here a hand in this the injuries of course but you know injuries cannot be an excuse for anyone you have to suit up and continue to play the fact of the matter is is that the more what I'm talking about this because it's just there's just there are so many things and you know it's I'm kind of glad that I do the recap so I do the in game at the in game updates the big plays and stuff but thankfully I'm always focused on that so once the game is over I have learned just put it behind looking at the coaching staff and some people are going to have going to be held accountable for this I think at some time I'm not looking for any firings me and just get my thoughts together so it could come out in a very precise manner in a writing sense but in for our podcast here but you talk about this I don't see how he would keep them because it's not changing it's not getting better you have talented talented football players they're going to point the finger at the coach intact for another comeback like type of season where they come back they were three and five and come back to win a playoff game and then lose again the way they lost on the field and he was the he got the interception had another great play he made his way on the ball when no defensive back has been making plays on the ball Italy the this is a huge game because what we what we thought we knew just before the jets game what we thought we knew was well the cowboys can beat up on the so and you know it's actually it's not inconsistent they're playing consistently poor is what they're playing the the defense like you had mentioned the coaching everything has a bad teams and they are not going to be able to do that against good teams well now we know the cowboys can't even beat some of the bad teams the cowboys are playing right now so inconsistent through Tom Yeah and it's just like well you need to stop doing what you do start finding out what you need to do differently and that's it all keeps focusing back your they are they are the guys that you have to rely on that you're not getting much out of yeah I to me I kind of this is a peril somebody have to keep in mind you know George Carlin the light comedian wants to thank all the zone where you can't say on television keep those firmly in mind because I wanNA use all seven of them about twenty in the season at this point because Jerry Jones h to do that and as has been pointed out the team really hasn't given up on the coaching staff yet that would be the this team all these coaches are on the final years of their deal

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Answers And Questions; Michael Avenatti Talks About Extortion, Bank And Wire Fraud Charges Against Him;  Pres. Trump, Allies Attack President's Critics After He Is Cleared of Russia Collusion; Stiffing Puerto Rico

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Answers And Questions; Michael Avenatti Talks About Extortion, Bank And Wire Fraud Charges Against Him; Pres. Trump, Allies Attack President's Critics After He Is Cleared of Russia Collusion; Stiffing Puerto Rico

"The bad. This is here NCW March madness. Takes the courses the big, Dan. So miss a moment of the action on TBS CBS TNT and true TV and download the March madness live up to watch every game anywhere at anytime. Live. Good evening of the attorney who made stormy Daniels. A household name and sparked the case that ended with Michael Cohen sentenced to prison is now himself at risk if found guilty of also going to prison. Mike Gaba was charged today with the feds call a multi million dollar extortion attempt, and they said the alleged shakedown was caught on tape on top of that. He was also charged in a separate case involving wire and Bank fraud. He was arraigned just moments ago at a courthouse in lower Manhattan. You're looking at a live shot. We're expecting him to come out shortly possibly speak to reporters. We'll bring you that. When he does. There are also multiple new developments the fallout from the attorney general summary of Robert Muller's investigation big ones, including new reporting that Mr. Muller told attorney general bar three weeks ago. He would not reach a conclusion in an obstruction of Justice case against the president that would be left up to bar. Also tonight, the latest on the efforts by Democrats to make the full Muller report public, but the Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell latest afternoon blocked, a move. So there's that and the reality. We now have key answers to some central tenants of the special counsel's investigation. But a lot of questions remain the first big answer being this taken from attorney general boards release. The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities now that is of course, both legally and politically enormous insufficient evidence to make a case against the president or people close to him for criminal conspiracy with the Russian government and the two thousand sixteen election, effectively, no collusion as the president has said all along at least none that the special counsel believes can be prosecuted. There's good news for the president. Arguably better news for the country that the president the United States did not criminally conspire with a foreign adversary to get elected now Democrats and those who disliked the president may be disappointed, but for the country having a president who hasn't conspired with an enemy is certainly very good news. That said the bar letter. Does not say what the president is saying it says. There was no obstruction. And none whatsoever. And it was a complete and total exoneration. Well, in fact, the attorney general who cited very few passages from Robert Muller's ashville report, specifically cited this one with respect to obstruction of Justice quoting now while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime it also does not exonerate him. Now, those were Muller's words, according to the army general the special counsel, quote, did not draw conclusion one way or the other as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. He deferred to the attorney general who decided along with deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein that it did not which leaves the question. Just what did Robert Mueller say about it in the body of his report Watergate conspirator and former Nixon White House counsel John dean, certainly no stranger to moments like these had this to say, Don lemon last night. We haven't really seen underlying report. But I have some suspicions of the reason that he boils down the way he did is because it's not very attractive on while. He didn't find his words are very different than bars. I suspect he suspects and so two plenty of democratic lawmakers. But in truth, we don't know one way or another Democrats have made releasing the full Muller report the to the public their top priority. Something the president today said he's also okay with as it stands. We don't really know the underlying facts that went into the attorney general's decision not to pursue obstruction charges and on the collusion front. We also know if the Muller investigators reached any determination about why so many people lied so much about their contacts with Russians Michael Flynn. Paul Manafort, George popadopoulos, all charged with lying people involved in the Trump Tower meeting with Russians were caught in multiple lies. And we still don't know. Why nor do we know if Robert Muller knows we still don't have as CNN political analyst Carl Bernstein often. Points out a simple factual account of what happened in all of this, nor do we know what's behind the president's willingness to give ladder Putin. The benefit of the Dow time after time on Russia's election interference in Robert Muller, ever theory, or provide any facts that on the question, again, we don't know, and that should be pointed out, nor do we know what if anything the Muller investigation and covered the ties in with or potentially sheds light on any of these other investigations into the president and his dealings. What we do know. However is that the report if accurately summarized by the attorney general dispel, some of the harsher allegations against the president by Democrats by former intelligence officials and others over the years. We have a Senator on the program tonight who says he's seen evidence himself of collusion. He said it before the bar summary came out tonight. We'll ask him. Whether he still maintains that does the Mola report contain any evidence that supports the senator's claim, even if it might not rise level Manelli another unanswered question. As is the president's reaction to it all when asked today with a special counsel acted. Honorably in the investigation. The pres- the president replied, yes, he did. That's really what he believes it certainly a far cry from what he's been claiming for months and Martin saying things like this about the special counsel. The problem with the Muller destination is everybody's got massive conflicts highly conflicted. In fact, Komi is like his best friend. Please people have the biggest conflicts of interest. I've ever seen go on to thirteen angry Democrats could go into conflict after conflict, but sadly missed the Muller's conflicted Muller was not Senate confirmed because of all the conflicts they didn't wanna bring him before the Senate because he's very conflicted. He's conflicted. And I know that his best friend is call me who's the bad cop. The put thirteen highly conflicted, and you know, very angry. I am angry Democrats in more now on the president's reaction McCaw says the White House for us tonight has the White House seen the full report yet. According to White House officials spoke with earlier this evening Anderson. No, they have not seen the full report and ask to this. This notion that Robert Mueller the special counsel, inform the attorney general William bar three weeks ago that he would not be bringing an obstruction case. I asked the White House just a short while ago got an answer to this. And they say the president the White House did not know about that that Muller informed bar that he would not be seeking any obstruction charges. And so over here, you know, they seem to be as much in the dark as to what's contained in the full molar report has everybody else, and it's in the dark as to whether or not they'll push for a full release of that report. We still don't have a straight answer on that as you were saying if you moments ago, the president said in the Oval Office earlier today, he's he's okay with that idea of releasing the report of what he's leaving it to the attorney general decide what ultimately to do about that. In terms of the president declaring full exoneration. Obviously, the vast majority of the summary was a huge victory for him. There's no doubt about it full. Stop. Is there any concern about that narrow bit of nuance between Muller and bar on obstruction? Now at this point Anderson, and honestly, they were too busy celebrating today to to appreciate the nuances of of just about anything. I I will say at one point in the driveway of the north lawn of the White House. I saw the White House counselor Kellyanne Conway almost dancing and the driveway as I approached her. She was beaming. Multiple officials behind the scenes were were jubilant over this news because they see this cloud being lifted over the president that's been there since the two thousand sixteen campaign Anderson, and who can blame them that cloud has been there for some time. But as you mentioned just a few moments ago, they're all of these other investigations looming. The question is how the White House how the president responds to all of that. But but obviously the question moving forward, you know, is still a why is the president? Why does he have this situation where every time we go, I don't know foreign trip. He seems to align him so. With over Putin. When it comes to this issue of interference in the two thousand sixteen election that obviously is a question that we may have some answers to in the full report. It is it's hard to imagine a situation Anderson where the public never gets a full understanding of the answer to that question. But as you were saying if you moments ago, we just don't know the answer to a lot of questions around here, with the exception of these answers that the president and his team have been desperately seeking for the last two years now, Tim Mukasa, Jim thanks very much just moments ago. We learned where the democrat congress stands on all this unions maharaja joins us with that. So what more speaker Pelosi sank tonight motto? Well, stick oppose they had a private meeting with our leadership team just earlier this evening, and she made it pretty clear that she believes the focus of caucus going forward should not be on the Russia investigation should not be on the Muller probe, but should be instead on these economic issues. Pocketbook issues on their agenda. She believes that is how the party should focus on. Going forward. It's in line with what she's been saying for some time. But in the aftermath of the Bill bar letter, she wants to make it pretty clear to her caucus that it makes sense to not focus on the all the fallout in the messy followed from this, particularly in light of the finding that the Trump campaign of Cording to Bob Muller. He could could not find a cannot establish. The Trump campaign was involved in a conspiracy with the Russian government. Now, I asked Nancy Pelosi about this leaving a meeting earlier this evening, whether she believes they're still collusion, and she didn't want him gauge. Speak oppose. Are you ready to say that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia in light of the mother finding? I think that mother report was clear the president. So the end she said, I think the mother report is clear he was not exonerated. We tried to press a little bit further. She said, I'm not going to be having a press conference about the soul of our democracy in the hallway of the basement in the capital. So it shows you Anderson where she wants to keep her focused, but still several other committees plan to push forward. Of course, they demanding by next week to provide the report to the house and the Senate also Adam Schiff, the house intelligence committee, chairman told me earlier this evening, he still plans to investigate rushing furans. He said the criminal investigation that mother launch is much different than a counterintelligence investigation that he's launching. He said he still wants to know if Trump has been compromised anyway by the Russians by financial interests at all that's going to be still focused for Adam shifts. So while Pelosi wants to move forward in to talk about these issues, at least some of our committees still playing a probe these Russia matters is gonna probably keep it still in the news Anderson. All right on a Roger Monmouth action, Richard. With all democrat of Connecticut, and a member of the judiciary committee, sir Blumenthal. Do you agree with speaker Pelosi? The Democrats should focus on their agenda and message and not the Miller probe and Russia interference Democrats essentially move on. We should focus Anderson on challenges they had to our country infrastructure that has rebuilding our roads and bridges healthcare making it more widely available and reducing the cost of pharmaceutical drugs veterans issues and our national defense, which is increasingly complex and challenging. But at the same time, we need to protect our nation against the continuing threat of meddling in our election. And that was the purpose of the Muller probe at the very outset. It began as a counterintelligence investigation, and we need to know and see that Muller report. All we have right now is the bar summary. So we can establish. How close the wrongdoing came to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Whether there was non-criminal wrongdoing by the Trump campaign. Clearly, there is evidence of some cooperation there and also very very importantly the statement by Muller one of the few statements that quoted in the bar summary that the president is not exonerated on the issue of obstruction of Justice. You said earlier today that quote, there is evidence of collusion. No question. Do you stand by that claim because sure seems like Robert Muller's conclusion is very different? We don't know what Robert Muller's conclusion is because we haven't seen it always seen is the bar summary. But even if the mullahs report says that he could not establish that's his word proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That's a very high bar. There may still be evidence. In fact, there is already in the public realm. And that evidence is what I was citing for example. The president's encouragement of the Russians to provide more hacked information his knowledge of the WikiLeaks release and his encouragement there his negotiations on the Trump Tower Moscow at the same time that he was praising lag Miro Putin. A string of highly significant public evidence of cooperation it may have only been tacit without criminal intent but his own campaign manager shared polling data sensitive private polling. Data with the Russians while they were checking this country, isn't that to a campaign of misinformation? I mean that is all things that Robert Muller likely looked at and yet still came away. I mean, it's one thing. Yes. The president said in a press conference Russia of you're listening can. I can't remember the exact quote, find the emails. But Moeller knew that looked at it and still said no crime here. And that's why we need to see the report. I can't emphasize enough. How important transparency is we have the bar summary. We do not have the Muller report. We have no idea what his reasoning was absence of criminal intent on the part of some or all of the Trump operatives who engaged in cooperation and what looks like conspiracy. But maybe not without that couple intent, but also on the issue of -struction after all obstruction is an effort to hinder an investigation. The fact that there was insufficient. Evidence of conspiracy may be due to the hindering the investigation, and that's the essence of obstruction. That's the crime where Muller did not exonerate, the president, the Trump campaign as you know. Send out a memo to the media today accusing you and others of lying to the American people about claims of collusion. They clearly see you as ripe for attack. What about that? Are you a worried your credibility has taken a hit? Do you feel? You have anything to apologize for well in that letter. Apparently, I haven't actually seen it. But they took a part of a quotation without the whole of it and the second part of it said in effect, whether there are going to be criminal charges remains to be seen. So I am by the contention that there is evidence. It may not rise to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I know as a former prosecutor that sometimes that prove comes very close, but it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. And particularly when it's the president. It's a very very high bar. So the effort to discredit critics is certainly not a new phenomenon for. This administration, and I'm going to continue to speak out. I won't be deterred where silent but shouldn't the bar Barbie high. I mean, if if I know in a court of law is beyond a reasonable doubt, a given the seriousness of this given that is the president the United States. And and you know, it's a serious as it gets shouldn't the bar be that hot. Absolutely. It is under the law. I respect the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard. But at the same time in order to prevent wrongdoing of this kind in the future. Congress continues to have an oversight function. We have a responsibility independent a special counsel to devise new legislative reforms that will safeguard against this kind of Russian interference in the future. And that's where there is bipartisan agreement as well. As on the need for transparency after all the president himself said today that he was in favour of transparency if he's serious about it. He'll back the bipartisan Bill that I've introduced with Senator. Grassley that would require Senator Blumenthal. Appreciate your time. Thank you wanna make you get a paralegal opinions now on some of what the Senator said joining us for that CNN legal analyst carry Cordeiro and former White House excuse me, whitewater, independent counsel. Robert ray. Carrie, what do you make of Senator Blumenthal claim that there was absolutely clues? But it didn't rise to the level of crime. Well, I think there's probably something to it Senator Blumenthal sitting on the Senate Judiciary committee should be in a position to know. Some information that perhaps is not available to the public and the crime of conspiracy. Which is what the theory of collusion is would be high level that would be a high bar to meet to be able to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that there's evidence supporting a prosecution. So I think that they're probably there could be some information available to those in a position of access that is something below a criminal prosecution. Standard and above nothing. They're rubber degree. I think that might be trying to parse things to Finally I mean, the more important distinction is that what Senator Blumenthal's talking about would be what standard he might consider appropriate to pass upon an article impeachment. And obviously there as Gerald Ford. Famously said, you know, an impeachment is whatever a majority of the house of representatives says by by way of an article of impeachment. I do think though that we were the standard still would be at a high crime Anthony on the word crime and the Justice department now through the office of special counsel has made a determination both with regard to collusion. And with regard to obstruction that there's not sufficient evidence that a crime was committed. It seems to me that by the president. I it seems to me that that finding has consequence. And that not only has consequence insofar as the criminal laws concern, but it certainly. Although it's not determinative. It does bear upon the question of what the the congress intends to do about it. Curate anything? I mean last night you accurately guessed that attorney general bar did not take only forty eight hours to reach his decision regarding obstruction. I'm wondering what you made the new say the bar had a roughly three weeks heads up from Muller that Muller wasn't going to make a decision on on obstruction that it was going to be left up to bar. Well, I'm glad that we were able to get that reporting today. And I think it makes a lot more sense than the narrative that appeared to some over the weekend, which was that perhaps he decided within forty eight hours that just didn't make sense to me. And I think the reporting today indicating that he had been briefed on it that he had some time to think about it. I'm sure he was briefed on what the special counsel was going to put in the report before it was delivered. And so I think that reporting made a lot more sense and is consistent with how an attorney general. What handle a significant decision like this one Robert the to the American people have the right? To know what the facts are that lead Muller to not exonerate the president on obstruction. I think they're entitled to context, and that would include facts, obviously to understand the prosecutorial decision making. I don't believe that. It is correct. As some Democrats have suggested that that means that the congress is entitled to what amounts to the entire investigative file the documents. Right. Just the report by Muller. But but I mean, I understand. I mean, I think as a practical matter it's incumbent, by way of disclosure of the the final report in in some fashion to provide the American people with context in connection with the facts that were gathered during the course of the investigation to understand the basis of the prosecutorial decision. That was made. It seems Carrie also I mean, just the just for learn. Earning. The actual narrative of what our Kurd in terms of Russia's involvement in in trying to influence the election. The molar port would have more details in that that would be beneficial for everybody to learn Democrats Republicans I think in order for the public to be able to put together the entire narrative of what transpired around twenty sixteen election. It's gonna take piecing together. Several parts part of that is looking at the charges that the special counsel brought already in terms of particularly the indictments of the Russian intelligence officers, and their activities part of it will come from the special the special counsel report, whichever portion of it however, much of it is able to become public part of it will come from the Senate intelligence committee's investigation, which is ongoing and which they presumably we'll wrap this year. And then there may be another part that will come from other investigations perhaps out of the house. And I don't think that there's going to be one document that summarizes it all I think it will have to be an assimilation of all of those different inquiries and investigations are might add also that I think is going to be amplified in part by testimony that you're likely going to see from the attorney general if not from Bob Mueller himself, I imagine sometime probably as soon as April rubber. I mean, if if you believe the mole report should be released to the extent possible. What is the extent possible? I mean, obviously anything classified would have to be scrubbed rag redacted anything about you know, directly re grand jury related. I guess would also have to be redacted. Well, they do not. I mean, I can also imagine insofar as the president is concerned that if there's a question about disclosure of necessary grand jury material in order to provide appropriate context for the congress and the American people, I could imagine the Depa. Front of Justice going to court to get a court order to open up some of that. I think where you're going to see the department resist too much disclosure is with regard to uncharged other individuals. Fascinating rubber right? Thank you so much carry darrow's. Well, quite welcome. Thank you. Michael Abernathy is just stepped out after being charged us. Let's take a look statement. But I will not be accepting any questions. First of all I wanna thank the federal agents for their professionalism, and courtesy today, they were outstanding throughout the process. And I wish to thank them for everything. They get today could actually, but this matter. As all of you know, for the entirety of my career. I have fought against the powerful powerful people and powerful corporations. I will never stop fighting that good fight. I am highly confident that when all of the evidence is lay bare in connection with these cases when it is all known when due process occurs that I will be fully exonerated and Justice will be done. Thank you. As Michael up appearing alive in downtown New York after spending at least several hours in court. We're gonna have more on the charges against him. But it's on both coasts in New York and California as well by different. Prosecutors. We'll have that in just a moment. Also later, the president saying people did evil things treasonous things that launched the Russia probe. He's seems to be talking about top intelligence officials at the end of the Obama administration. Just ahead. We'll talk to one of them. Former director of national intelligence, James Clapper. Hiring is challenging, but there's one place you can go. We're hiring is simple fast. And smart that place is ZipRecruiter with their powerful matching technology. 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They were going to release damaging information about the company at a sensitive time. Just ahead of its quarterly earnings announcement unless they were paid as much as twenty five million dollars. Now, prosecutors said that when Nike learned of this and the lawyers from Nike they immediately brought it to the thirties attention. They work together and had audio and video recordings capturing some of Michael avenues threats in one of these threats of an ATI said, I'll take I'll go take ten billion dollars off your clients market cap. I'm not effing ING around of ATI told Nike's attorneys, according to the. Plane. He added, and I'm not continuing to play games, you guys know enough now to know, you've got a serious problem. And it's worth more in exposure to me to just blow the lid on this thing now across the country in Los Angeles at about the same time of ninety was charged by prosecutors there with wire and Bank fraud in that case, prosecutors allege that Ave Nadi tried to embezzle more than a million dollars from one of his clients to pays expenses. They also alleged that he summited phony tax returns to a Bank in order to get more than four million dollars in loans. Anderson how does more gear goes fit into this. He was seen in contributor up until today. Yeah. That's right. So a source familiar with the investigation tells me that Mark arrogance was the unnamed unindicted co conspirator in this case now goes has not been charged with any wrongdoing so far, and he was a scene and contributor until today or Kursk. Appreciate I want to go deeper on this to CNN legal analyst Paul Callan joins us and woo as well shin. Looking at the New York as I what do you make of these Georgia's? Very unusual. I expect a very robust defense will have an ATI claiming he was just zealously representing his client and trying to get a settlement. It sounds like he's asking for a hush money, not necessarily illegal, and he's familiar with that kind of case. So it's not illegal to ask for a hush money. Well, when we talk about his hush money. It sounds more illegal. But when you reach a settlement, there's usually a nondisclosure clause, and they non-disparagement clause, and that's basically the equivalent of being paid to be quiet in the future. Paul how strong do you think these this? These charges are the I mean, the federal prosecutor's case the New York case, I mean, does not saying things like I'll go take ten billion off your clients market cap. Does that go beyond, you know, a normal lawyer, you know, in a tough negotiation. Well, the us attorney for Manhattan Anderson called this the use of a law license as a weapon of extortion. And the claim is that avenue was claiming that he had to be paid as much as twenty five million dollars not to give a press conference, which would have embarrassed Nike. But it's it's an it is an unusual set of charges in New York. I have to think by the way that his California case might be even more serious and possess a greater danger to everybody was that. Well, the California charges alleged that he embezzled one point six million dollars from one of his clients, and he took that money, and he used it to fund his law firm and a coffee company that apparently was having financial problems during that time period. In addition. He borrowed four point one million dollars from a Mississippi Bank using fraudulent copies of tax returns. Now in these tax returns he claimed that he had made multi millions of dollars per year. In fact, federal prosecutors say for several years, he didn't even file federal tax returns. And he never made the amount of money that he claimed when you put all of those things together. Federal prosecutors say he faces fifty years in prison as a maximum sentence in California. So those are dangerous charges. Yeah. I mean, Shan, the unnamed co-conspirator referred to in the complaint said to be Mark era goes who again was CNN contributor. No longer is as of today. What role? Do you think he could have had an all this? Because at this point. He hasn't been charged with with any crime, very interesting. He was not charged. That's generally frowned upon to use his unindicted co-conspirator idea. We're familiar with it from Nixon, and of course, President Trump's been talked about in that realm as well. Because the person doesn't really get a chance to defend themselves in court. They're not actually indicted. It sounds to me like ghosts may have been a co counsel. Or also working on the matter legally with the question is why is he not indicted, immunity as a possibility or perhaps they feel the evidence against him is a little bit more ambiguous. Very extraordinary have two attorneys being charged in the case where the two of them can both argue that the representing clients, Shan, if he got immunity, again, we don't know what would that indicate that he was cooperating? Yes. That would indicate that he was cooperating and that they would be the prosecutors would value that cooperation a lot in order to give them the immunity so cooperating with that. The sort of while the investigation would it be afterward or while the investigation was going on both it could be both it wouldn't both. It's hard to know right now, Paul if I mean, it's obviously remarkable turn of events given sort of how Michael came into the spotlight the allegations. He was making against Michael Cohen and others. If true you said this is for both is it fifty years for for for both. If you're adding up both indictments. No, actually Anderson the California federal prosecutors said the statutory maximum for the charges. He was facing in California was fifty years. Now, of course, that doesn't mean he'll get fifty dollars. However on top of that, you would have the New York charges. So that's the maximum sentence. He would face he wouldn't get a sentence that high. But this is a very serious charge. That if convicted he would go to prison for these charges, almost certainly obviously continue to follow Paul Callan. Thank you Shehu as well. Just ahead more on the president blaming former intelligence chief. So the Russian investigation from director of national intelligence James Clapper will join us. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm jokin soon. We're the producers behind HSEN television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, Di Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribed today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. When other Robert Muller is investigating the president White House press secretary Sarah Sanders is calling on congress to investigate former top US intelligence officials. If congress is so gung ho to call people up to the hill, the list, I would start with our Komi Clapper Brennan and other people in the FBI who perpetuated this absurd lie in this absurd idea that the president of the United States was somehow a foreign agent and colluding with another government going now is former director of national intelligence James Clapper, author of facts and fears hard truths from a life of intelligence and was the name thereby Sarah Sanders director, Clapper, what is your reaction to it. Andrew said, well, I wonder if she was conflicting or confusing, collusion, whatever that is with the Russian interference. And certainly those of us achie- named John Brennan, and Jim Komi I or part of the group that were tasked by President Obama to put together all the reporting we had on the Russian interference. And which we did President Obama directly and personally confronted. Putin about the Russian interference in September. And did not accept at face value of Putin's protestations. John Brennan directly did the same thing with his counterpart on October seventh of sixteen. We put out a statement when I say, we Jane Johnson and sector homeland security, and I put a statement pretty forthright went about warning of the Russian interference in our elections this month before the election, which enforcement got drowned out by the access Hollywood tape revelation, December twenty ninth the administration of you know, issued a series of sanctions PNG thirty five Russian operatives close to dodges at cetera. And then of course, on January six we issued our intelligence community assessment documenting the Russian interference in which we had very high confidence in the evidence that we presented to then President-elect Trump at Trump Tower. I think what gives rise now. And I will once again emphasize that in that until commutes segment, there was nothing about collusion because we didn't have sufficient evidence of of that to include it, and I so I have so stated publicly starting with Moore's fourth of twenty seventeen when I appeared on meet the press. And I consistently said we didn't have the evidence at the time contemporary, sleet, and it was my great hope that the Muller investigation would resolve that once and for all and apparently it did and regardless of your political stripes with your opponent or proponent of President Trump. That's a good thing for all of America. I would just note that my former general counsel Robert lid has written a excellent treatise on the nuances of the language in the bar memorandum, which without going into just say emphasizes the importance of transparency and having access public. Access to the entire report. In terms of things, you have said on television, subsequently just over, you know. However long you've been talking on on on television. Do you regret anything you have said in terms of raising questions about the president's behavior or some of the things? The president's Downer said. No, I don't and I have put that writing in my book as well. I I have I've have concerns in. As do others. And I have tried to be factual intemperate monitor about it. But but I do have concerns, and no I don't have any grits. And do you still have the same concerns about, you know, the president his relationship with Vladimir Putin? The his tendency to side with light over Putin against, you know, former intelligence officials or even his current intelligence officials. I do have concerns about the in the president's unwillingness or inability or whatever to call out the Russian interference in the election. And I would just point out that one of President Obama's objectives. In tasking us to do that report on on the Russian interference was handed off to the next administration. So the Trump administration would have that as as a basis for taking action against Russia, which sort of hasn't happened in some ways. So I mean, just lastly, you said you've said before that you don't understa. What you say or the strange personal deference to Putin by the president does bars summary mother's findings because that's all we've seen clear that up for you at all or you certainly want to see the full report. Well, like everyone else I would very much like to see what Muller actually said in his report and hopefully answer some of the unanswered questions of that. I think still linger that the three and a half page summary that the attorney general. Provided which was you know, it's kind of like headlines details at eleven sort of thing doesn't cut it down. Start your Clapper. Appreciate you being with us. Thanks. Thanks. Coming up next new reporting from Washington Post says President Trump recently as some of his top aides for ways to limit federal funding from going to Puerto Rico still struggling in the wake of the devastating hurricane back in the fall of two thousand seventeen we'll have details from the Washington Post ahead. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Ever since hurricane Maria struck Puerto Rico back in the fall of two thousand seventeen the Trump administration's response. The disaster has been controversial certainly you might recall these images, President Trump tossing paper towels into crowd after visited the island while the mayor of San Juan was criticizing the administration's relief efforts today. The Washington Post says the president asked top advisors for ways he can limit federal funds to still struggling Puerto Rico during an Oval Office meeting earlier this year on the byline is Josh doc-. Who's also CNN political analyst? Josh can you just explain your reporting about what the president has been saying about Puerto Rico. Sure. So the president has gone frustrated with the Puerto Rico aid. He is wanted to women the amount of housing urban development grants, also known as HUD grants. It go there as long as well as food stamp assistance to the island. Obviously the island was wracked by hurricane Maria and has struggled to get back on the ground people still without power. Lots of folks there in disparate need of government assistance, and the president has instead of that he prefers money to go to its others Astor's in the United States. He thinks that poor because visuals are misusing the money are not giving it to their citizens properly. He he really does only more money to go there. And it's told his aides that and this is a battle going on over the next round of of disaster funding and food stamp money. And and the president's putting his finger on the scale here to say he thinks Puerto Rico as received enough doesn't need any more. I mean, is it a is there anger towards Puerto Rico and the prisoners part or? I mean is it as you say that he just feels like they're misusing the funds, and we know how it's going to any federal aid headed to the island. Well, that amalgamation of both Anders then the president certainly grew frustrated with political leaders after storm you remember his public tiffs there with the mayor of San Juan, and and can have grew to believe that Puerto Rico's officials on the ground were not particularly competent. He also has been concerned that he doesn't think Puerto Rico's spending its money correctly. He read a Wall Street Journal story from late two thousand eighteen that showed how some bond odors, and folks in the private industry were benefiting from federal government funds and that really set him off by the accounts of several different administration. Officials we've spoken to and and since then there's been a desire to really cut back on the funding that goes to Puerto Rico, the kitchen food stamp benefits Puerto Rico how much that impacted residents of the what my guy Jeff Stein went to Puerto Rico weekend. It's been it's been several days on the ground. And he. Found that there were a lot of people in desperate need more than a forty percent cut and food stamps likely people who run social safety net programs nursing homes people who are of living on the cusp of of trying to just even get back to somewhat where they were near before the storm a really still struggling Puerto Rico and the the portrait he painted. There was pretty Graham, and it's a place where all the advocates elected officials residents. You talk to them Puerto Rico say if anything they need more government assistance than they're getting not a slash in government assistance, and what role if any is congress playing in this is there any legislation on the rise in that could plausibly be passed and signed into law right there. There's legislation that could come up as early as this week on Puerto Rico assistance, and a number of Democrats who are pushing heavily for it. You have some Republicans even quietly behind the scenes are pushing for the country to get a bit more. But there's also a number of other states that are affected as you well know from tornadoes and hurricanes and other kinds. Of damage fires that are part of the package. So it's kind of a melting pot of money that goes and with the president in the White House wants certainly matters quite a bit in these discussions Jess dossier. Appreciate it. Thanks very much. Thank you. All right. Chris back see what he's working on for Cuomo prime time the top of the hour. Welcome back. Now. He's going to see you, my friend. Some things are simple. Something's a complex Puerto Rico simple. They've been shunned by this administration. They got the numbers wrong there. They got the importance wrong there, and they've been carrying it through as some type of indebted against the island. I was just there on vacation with my family. And the help is real the need is real. It always has been. It's even worse. Now, they're not back that simple complex is why I'm here in Washington. DC I came here to get the president's two main lawyers Jay Secolo and Rudy Giuliani. We're going to have them both on tonight. Anderson. Listen to this have never heard of this before their tag, teaming my show with Sean Hannity show tonight. It's such a statement of where we are as a culture right now that literally they're going to be switching mid. Show going back and forth on the two shows preaching to the converted on one preaching open minds on the other. It's a really weird time. But we need to have an understanding on what this report means. And what we still need to know. And we're going to get deep on that tonight. All right about seven minutes from port to a Chris. Thanks, very much still had the father of her. First grader killed on. The sandy hook massacre has died of suicide, sadly, his is just one of three apparent suicides this past week or so with possible ties to school shootings Moorhead. The cases we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. 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His daughter Arielle Richmond was six when she was killed along with nineteen other children and six adults at sandy hook elementary school in two thousand and twelve after the massacre, Mr. Richmond co-founded, the AVI L foundation, a nonprofit name for his daughter focused on violence prevention through research and community engagement. I spoke to Jeremy and his wife Jennifer about their daughter and their lives in two thousand and thirteen for CNN documentary. To such a wonderfully fun child, and she she would light up. You know? I wish that you got to meet her you would've just been blown away. She's fun. She was funny. She would have made you smile, you know, every day we need to. To get out of bed and Jen Jenna came up with distributional idea of to to get us out of bed. And everyday we try to find something of beauty something that makes you feel the world that good place. And then every day we wanna make sure that we try to really strive to give back something of beauty something to the world striving to give back something viewed each the world. Jeremy Richmond is forty nine years old and the cause of death is an apparent suicide. It's often impossible to know for sure what may be in someone's head or hard that leads to depression and sometimes to death by suicide, but there have been several other recent deaths that we wanna make you aware of in Florida mourners, grieving the death of Sydney. Yellow she was two thousand eighteen graduate of Marjory stoneman Douglas high school who died by suicide last week. She survived the attack on Valentine's Day last year. The killed seventeen people that school in parkland, her mom told CNN affiliate W F O R that Sydney suffered from survivor's guilt and had been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder on Saturday night. Another parkland student apparently also died by suicide the student has not been publicly identified, but as a sophomore, according to the Miami Herald, again, we don't know what caused these three people to have these thoughts into unfortunately act on them. It is important to note that help is available reaching out for it can be hard, and it's made harder by the stigma, which unfortunately, still surround suicide, and it's made harder by the silence that also surround suicide it's not easy to talk about it. If you're having thoughts of suicide, and it's really not easy to talk about if someone you know is suffering, and you wanna help them it's often hard to know what to say or. How to help but reaching out in both cases and talking that is essential. There is help out there. And it's just a phone call away if you or someone, you know might be at risk of suicide you can call the national suicide prevention lifeline or showing you the number right now at the bottom of your screen, the number one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five. There's also text line, and you can text home to seven four one seven four one to have a confidential techs conversation with a train crisis counselor from an organization called crisis text line. It's very popular among young people in particular who may be or anybody who may be more used to or comfortable with texting and talking to a counselor than on the phone counselors or veil by the crisis text line twenty four hours a day seven days a week. 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She knew reporting on what was said at this meeting between secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, and the power behind the Saudi throne. Crown prince Mohammad bin Salman known as m Bs, also known as the man who would have known in advance about the alleged torture, murder, and dismemberment of Jamal Shuki in its Don bowl according to a source familiar with it, the smiles you see there between the prince and the secretary of state and pay which raised many eyebrows today. We're only for show it even as we bring you this new account of a far tougher tone with the Saudis or alleged tone. We should also mention it comes against the drumbeat of recent statements from secretary Pompeo and others that suggests the opposite. When asked today, whether the FBI is investigating the apparent murder of an American resident who lived and worked just across the Potomac from the White House for the Washington Post. He again underscored that cashew Kesey was Saudi and not an American citizen and secretary Pompeo who's. Just back from that meeting in Riyadh had this to say, when asked if Saudi officials had told him whether shook she is even dead or alive. I don't wanna talk about any of the facts they they didn't want to either in that they want to have the opportunity to complete this investigation in a thorough way. So just a few hours ago, secretary Pompeo suggested he's okay with a fact free fact-finding visit or ledge fact-finding visit also that he's okay with the country. Suspected of detaining torturing, drugging and dismembering a high profile. American resident investigating itself combined that with the president's repeated mention of how important and ally and arms buyer Saudi Arabia is and critics say it adds up to an administration, helping the kingdom cover up of murder, which may or may not explain why we're now being told about tough, talk behind closed doors, but it certainly adds a new dimension to the story, and it's where we begin this hour with CNN's Alex Marquardt joins us with the latest. So what is this source saying happened in the meeting between secretary Pompeo and the crown prince Anderson. I imagine you're right. I think we're hearing this side of the story because of the widespread criticism that Pompeii. Oh, got four looking. So chummy four looking so smiley with NBS. Remember, of course, he was there to supposedly demand answers from MVSA about this horrifically grizzly. Murder, what Anderson a we are hearing from a source who's telling our colleague, Jamie gang Gill that Pompeo told them Bs, no, uncertain terms that he has to own this situation that eventually all the facts will come out. And then even if NBS didn't know about the plot ahead of time that he has to own this situation. Now, we're told that the most dramatic moment in this conversation was one Pompeo told them Bs that the very his very future as king is at stake. Remember he's just thirty three years old, but his father's quite elderly, he could very easily become king. Soon. We're already starting to hear noises from certain quarters about demanding the king to replace his son as crown prince most notably from Senator Lindsey, Graham of South Carolina who said very bluntly, calling on the king to replace NBS is crown prince called him toxic. So we were told Jamie gang gal was told by her source that this was a very blunt message. It's unclear how it landed with the crown prince Anderson. It also seems completely at odds with the photo opportunity in which they both or smiling seemed to be enjoying each other's company. Wooded secretary of state. Pompeo allegedly tell the crown prince the US would do if he doesn't own it, and I'm not even sure what owning it exactly means that's a little bit confusing terms, the phrasing, but he basically said that action would be taken that the US refers to take action. In fact, the quote is the US will take action because the world will demand it. And that President Trump's hand will be forced by the global pressure and it's not just global pressure. It's domestic pressure. Most of the pressure that President Trump is feeling right now is coming from Capitol Hill from both sides of the aisle group of senators. Bipartisan senators saying that they are ready to Levy sanctions under the Magnitsky act, which of course was first enacted against Russia, and they would also be ready to block arm sales now, Pompeii, oh, has just landed back on US soil. He is expected to brief President Trump soon. The first indication Anderson of how the US is going. Her manage this relationship, how the Trump administration is going to handle this relationship going forward may come tomorrow because Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin is slated to go to a conference in Riyadh. Next week, we've seen this long list of political and business leaders who have pulled out of that right now. Mnuchin is still slated to go. He said, he's not going to make a decision until tomorrow after the briefing by Pompeo to the president. All right, Alex, Marquardt appreciate that reaction from Senator Jeff Merkley democrat of Oregon member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee Senator. Thanks for being with us. The new narrative of of allegedly what happened. This Pompeo meeting that's supposedly the smiles ended at the end of the photo op. Do you believe that especially given the tone of everything else we've seen in heard from the administration thus far. I'm not at all confident of that. The fact that the message to the world was that they discussed many things, bilateral relations security in the Gulf and caught around to saying that a thorough investigation would be nice. I mean, that kind of attitude certainly doesn't show the US demanding answers on the murder of an American resident, the murder of American columnist for the Washington Post. We need to send a powerful message here. Not one that basically tries to create space for some sort of spin or cover story to develop. The, it's been pointed out a number times for people in ministration that the Jamal cook. She was not an American citizen. Should that matter in terms of the US response. Not at all. Here's an American resident. He's a writer, a columnist for the Washington Post. In American newspaper, I'm we should stand up for human rights are everywhere in the world, and certainly such a murderer is unacceptable. If it indeed happened for the murder happened, but the there's plenty of connection to America for American take the lead in many thorough investigation, not an investigation by the Saudis we should be involved in this. We should deploy our assets are FBI assets to find out what happened. Do you find credible at all that NBS would not have known about an operation of this sort in advance given that some of the people have been identified as people in his close protection detail who other maybe part of the Saudi intelligence community or certainly into security establishment. I do not find that credible at all. NBS is really played at a a huge role in that country. I think everyone is terrified to do anything that doesn't go through him. The idea that there'd be some rogue element that would undertake such a massive preparation to bring in a team to lure him over to Turkey to the embassy to this embassy to proceed to kill him. Dismember him tortuous own. And so none. I cannot imagine anyone doing that without NBS. Having basically said, make this happen. So this source of Jimmy Tangail said that sector Pompeo told NBS that he has to own it. I'm not sure what again with that means, what would you what do you think the the ramifications should be for the US Saudi relationship. Well, certainly those individuals who we find out we're involved should be subjected to the global Magnitsky act, which that has a limited amount of power. But it does say that we will freeze your assets. It does say that we will restrict your travel to the United States, but then we need to think about other things involved in the relationship. We need to think about the use of the foreign assistance act. The arms export control act. The War Powers Act all of which have provisions that create a leverage regarding a foreign nation and our relationship with them and our supply of arms and our supply of intelligence and our supply of support and other forms. So if the president doesn't take what you and your colleagues in congress, consider to be appropriate action. Is there really enough political will or bipartisan support for congress, it self to to take action. I think they're very well might be. There were forty, four votes for the Sanders. Lee Murphy provisions that went before the Senate to say that we should stop providing fuel and support for their attacks on Yemen and intelligence in cooperating with them. Forty, four bipartisan votes. In that instance, I would suspect that that vote was held today that there'd be a majority and partly we have to realize this is coming on top of just more and more knowledge about this Saudi targeting of civilians in Yemen, the massive starvation that is eminent or imminent there. It's it's a horrific situation that the US should not have its hand in, but we do and there's a growing sense. We must force administration to quit partnering in this decimation of civilian infrastructure and bombings in Yemen. Merkley appreciate your time. Thank you. There's more breaking news. I just moments ago the Washington Post published a Columbine Jamal Kush shook. She apparently his final column in it. He talks about freedom writ large in the Arab world and more specifically freedom of the press. He pulls no punches in his criticism of the Saudi government criticism that we now know might have gotten him killed Arab governments. He rides have been given free rein to continue silencing the media at an increasing rate. There was a time when journalists believed that the internet would liberate information from the censorship and control associated with print media. But these governments whose very existence relies on the control of information have aggressively blocked the internet. He went on to write the Arab world is facing its own version of an iron curtain imposed not by external actors, but through domestic forces vying for power during the Cold War radio for Europe, which grew over the years and to a critical institution played an important role in fostering and sustaining the hope of freedom. Arabs need something similar because. Shook. She also writes about a friend and fellow columnist now in prison for to the anti-saudi commentary who's says, it's serving a five-year sentence which now given what likely happened. It is temple almost seems quaint joining us now is Washington Post, global opinions editor, Karen Attiyah current winded, Jim cook. She write this and I'm wondering what's behind the decision to publish it. Now. Sure. So this came to me about a day after we heard about his disappearance through his assistant translator, which he worked with from time to time while we worked together in the past year, you know, he'd been KOMO collaborating on this piece up until the day before he disappeared on on October for as far as I can tell. So like I said, in my note above the column we held off, we honestly thought that maybe we were dealing with, you know, perhaps, you know, an interrogation situation. We thought that maybe he would come back to us. We thought maybe we were perhaps even dealing with an imprisonment or hostage situation. But as time went on. It became increasingly clear that I wouldn't at him again. And so I think this week we decided as a story is moving onto sort of US Saudi relationship, geopolitical story rumors swirling about who he who Jamal was. We just decided we wanted to bring it back to his words to his ideas to his his thoughts and who he was as a person and why he was so passionate about being free here in Washington and being free here the Washington Post. So we thought it was appropriate just to remind people of the human of the man who fell victim to apparently a horrific horrific crime. I mean, it does seem fitting and also incredibly sad that his last column this last column would be about freedom of the press in in the Arab world. It's fitting, but it's it's in our time working together, especially in the last several weeks. He was very again. He would come into the office. We had a lunch a couple of weeks ago and who's very adamant about wanting to do more in Arabic. He wanted to create a sort of no International Herald Tribune for the Arab world. And I think that he, he really wanted to be free. He just saw how a journalism was being smashed around the Arab world, and and so it was something that he was he's really pushing for very pushy about. He wasn't a very pushy writer at all. But on this note, it was something that he's really passionate about in the point where let's say care and I would do this for free. Just let me do this. I'll setup editors all figure it out. And we were discussing even setting up some sort of newsletter perhaps that he could help them and take charge of. And so it is. Vetik and it is fitting that this would be the last column that I write edit for him. Okay or not. I appreciate you joining us. Thank you a bit later. We'll have more on the affinity that the president appears to have with the Saudis with the arguments for and against confronting them and more coming up next more. Breaking news. It's time in the Russian investigation signs. 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The president's former personal attorney and self-described Mr. Fixit met today with a group of state and federal law enforcement officials according to sources familiar with the meeting, they're investigating the president's family business as well as his charity Cohen has also been talking with Russia's Russia's special counsel, Robert Muller's team, and we've new reporting tonight on how busy Mr. molar has been lately, although not in the headlines, put some of these new pieces together to some this quiet period before midterms and starting to look perhaps like the homestretch CNN. Sara Murray has the reporting behind this possible new timeline. She joins us now. So what are you hearing about what's going on what's been going on? Because it's obviously, you know, they've been kind of lying low in terms of there's no public indictments. And what are you hearing about possible more indictments in the future? Well, that's right. You know, we're just a couple of weeks in the midterms. We don't expect any big. Public announcements, but there has been a flurry of activity going on behind the scenes. And you know, we can tell you that sources close to the president sources familiar with this investigation. Still believe there could be more criminal indictments to come. And you know, one of the big characters in this we haven't heard a lot about lately is Roger stone. One of the president's longtime political advisors, and he's even said publicly that he believes he could be indicted for some kind of criminal activity. He just doesn't know what. So just be clear though there's no reporting saying criminal, some criminal diamonds are coming out it just you're hearing the possibility of fairly there is the possibility of, you know, we don't know from Muller's team, whether there's going to be a criminal indictment until the criminal indictment comes out. But what we know is that people who are familiar with this investigation people know what's going on behind the scenes with some of these ongoing investigations, do believe that there could be more indictments to calm. Of course, we would expect that stuff too. All become public later on down the road after we get through the mid term elections. And as we get to this point, you know, we're Robert Muller wants to get he these last few cases on the board, at least through the through the finish line in terms of the indictment, and then start preparing his report. What about Paul Manafort has he been interviewed a lot. Yeah. I mean, when we talk about what's going on behind the scenes, we're talking about some key players in this investigation. So Paul Manafort we know is cooperating. He's been in with his lawyers to meet with a special counsel team, nine different times. And we've also seen something similar going on with Michael Cohen. As you point out, he met with state and federal investigators to talk about the Trump family business to talk about the charitable charitable foundation, but he has also met with Muller's team and we're not exactly sure what they are cooperating on, but we know that the special counsel obviously had questions for them and who knows what kind of investigations or what other players they could provide Intel on. Is it clear at this point if this, if this does end, whether some public report will actually be issued because there's no, there's no guarantee that there would be a public report by Muller. Correct? Exactly. And there are plenty of Americans who have watched this play out who've heard us talk about they score wondering what the special counsel and his team have been up to. But the way that these rules are written, what has to happen is the special counsel has to handover report to deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein, and then it's basically up to him to decide what if anything he wants to make public. This'll be a report and sort of explains why Muller decided to prosecute the things he did and why declined to prosecute other things that you know were maybe left behind left on the cutting room floor, but we just don't know if the American public or we or if we are going to get a glimpse of that at all Anderson. Sir, Murray. Appreciate another potential sign that big things may be a head comes from the the president. He's talking about the investigation. Again, disparaging mocking the notion. He -cluded with Russia as he did just recently with FOX business. There was no collusion. There was Russia. Do you think? I'd Russia. I need help in Idaho. I need help in Iowa. Oh, let's call Russia. It's a, it's a con job. I didn't make one call to the whole thing is so disgraceful. So it continues its witch hunt. It's nothing more than a witch hunt, and most people get it including Democrats, they wink at me. They look at me. They wink at me. The Democrats get it too, but we'll see what happens. Perspective now from New York Times, White House correspondent and CNN political analyst, Maggie Haberman also David Gergen who worked with four presidents and former defense attorney. Paul Callan CNN legal analyst. So Maggie you've been saying that something is agitated, the president, I'm more wondering what makes you confident. It's related to the molar probe. It's related to the Meller product could be related to all kinds of things, and he's expressing it this way. Although he has tended to use which hunt when something is going on with the Russia probe. There were some sentence sentences that were handed down. I believe that Fox News was talking about the morning that he made that tweet that could have been it. I think it is likely that they have an expectation that there is a report coming as you have been reporting. And as we have heard as well fairly soon after the midterm election that there could be an indictment of Roger stone, which well, the president will distance himself from Roger stone. Roger stone has been a long serving off and on adviser to this president, the longest serving of his political group. And so it could be any one of these things, but he had taken a break from agitating about this. He had not tweeted the words which hunt for a month, and the way it had been described to me by several people close to him was a, he personally believed that Muller was winding down for whatever reason, and we don't know why that he believed that number one, the number two, he also believed that all he could do was rock the boat. And yet here you had him doing it again this week. You know if the focus is Roger stone in any kind of indictment to maggie's point Roger stone left that campaign relatively early on at least publicly left the campaign. If at the end of the day, there's only a diaper of Roger stone and no indictment of anyone else or no charges levelled against the president, the guard to collusion, our destruction. That'll be a major victory. The White House would take that in a heartbeat, but there are a number of indications that we're right now. We're going through the quiet before a storm and the storm is coming after the mid terms with the collision possibly between the Justice department. Rod Rosenstein and President Trump Rosenstein has been really acting an interesting way here. He's basically put told Muller to us up, get this thing completed as soon as you can. He today, how had an interview in which he call the what Muller has been doing completely appropriate. And he was acting an independent ways they should that is Rosen saying. From my point of view, building a wall to protect Muller, knowing that Trump may move in now get rid of sessions, bringing a new attorney general who is not recused, who can then receive this report and throwing the waste basket, you know. So we don't know where this is going right now, but if there's a time when Donald Trump is going to strike, it's likely you're going to be shortly after the midterms and order had this head off Muller. You know, the president of folks at the White House repeatedly have been distancing themselves from Michael Cohen. Downplaying his role in the life of Donald Trump, and also, obviously, Paul manafort's Rowley into campaign was not clear is what at this point, Michael Cohen or implemented fort would know about that would be of interest to the Muller team? Well, I think that Muller is following leads that he has been all along with respect to Manafort and that is that Manafort had Ukrainian and Russian connections. What I'm wondering about now is if some of those connections would be helpful in proving charges against the Trump organization, because I have a feeling that in the end, there's no case against the president himself, but there may very well be a case being made based on Michael Cohen and what Manafort provides against the Trump organization for some kind of business mail. You know, practices and my my take is a little bit different than. David's on this odd statement that Rosenstein made. I mean, he's come out and said that the Muller investigation is appropriate and independent. Now, this comes in the wake of a meeting with the president where a lot of people thought Rosenstein was going to get fired for allegedly, suggesting that he taped the president or invoke the twenty fifth amendment. Whatever happened in that meeting, it was a friendly meeting because Trump came out and made no nasty statements about Rosenstein. So I think in that meeting, the must have been some hint given to the president that what's going to happen in the immediate future will not involve an indictment of the president himself, but maybe others. Although megi it was in that interview, I believe it was with you that you had with the president where the president you asked about a red line, and you know, business dealings, the family finances, and that was clearly something the president felt was a red line. Sure. And this is something that has been looming for a while. We don't know exactly. It's really important to to keep stressing a. We don't know exactly what Miller is doing and b, we certainly don't know what the southern district being orcas doing and they're the ones who are dealing. I think more specifically with Michael Cohen on aspects of the Trump organization, I think most people close to the president cannot imagine a scenario where he is going to be, you know, again, barring the unforeseen, but he's going to be indicted while he is an office for any of the things that they are looking at. And I think that Paul is dead on. I think that there has been a desire to suggest that Rosenstein is the bulwark against Muller being tampered with or against Muller folding or against something happening with Muller. There is a real reason to bear in mind that rod Rosenstein is the one who wrote the original memo that led to Comi being fired, which then lead to the appointment of Robert Muller. I think that Rosenstein has been at at various places on this and we don't know what was said in that private conversation, but there's no reason to assume that the conversation was Rosenstein drawing a line in the sand. David, how important do you think it would be for whatever report Muller puts together to give to Rosenstein that be made public or that there is at least some sort of public explanation of. The results of the investigation or does or decisions not to have any other demands? I think extremely port in the country's been put through seventeen months of this drama, and now they're all sorts of questions about what was this all about what was going on in the Trump organization, how shall we make judgments about this president about his inner circle and for us to then be sort of shut out of that process and to have selective leaking by one side or the other as process goes forward, I would be I think most unfortunate result or public, the public has a right to know in a democracy more than does this just the outlines of things. This is a a time. Yes, time to be transparent and straightforward. David Gergen, Maggie Haberman. 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Then minutes ago, new reporting the Washington Post which contrast with that narrative, the post reporting that the Trump administration and Saudi Royal family or searching for what the post describes as a mutually agreeable explanation. For what happened. One that does not implicate the Saudi Crown prince. The post also reporting that American intelligence intercept show. NBS had ordered an operation to lure Shuki back to Saudi Arabia certainly adds yet another dimension to that grip and grin video from Riyadh between the secretary of state and MVS, and that's just the latest in a string of developments day for more. I want to turn to our Jeff Zeleny Jeff. I mean, it certainly seems like the administration is in some sort of a cleanup mode right now. Over this meeting between Pompeo and the crown prince in which it was seemed incredibly cordial and happy in front of the cameras Anderson. There's no question for the last at least a couple of days. The president has been agitated. I'm told by what he sees as news coverage here that is painting him in a pretty favorable and a cozy light. If you will, with the Saudi government and the Saudi leadership. So no question at all secretary of state, Mike, Pompeo trying to assert that. No, I really did have tough words a privately, but the public words are what the world is watching here and the president. Once again today said he was gonna take a wait and see approach allowing the Saudis to complete their investigation. Now, we're more than two weeks into this situation already in the president, not showing any sense of urgency. Not saying if the US intelligence officials are involved or if he's getting any information of them seemingly to put everything on the Saudi government will the secretary of state. Clearly the mindful of his own. Own reputation and politics and all of this as well, pushing back saying, no, he did take a tough line, but Anderson. No question here. The White House feels exposed to this as they are hearing privately from a Republican senators and others saying that, why aren't you sort of being at least more skeptical at the very least of this Saudi government story. In the secretary of state is scheduled to meet with the president tomorrow about this, right? He is indeed, the secretary said is back now in Washington, after that fact, finding mission. If you will unclear how many facts you actually found. But he is scheduled to meet with the president at least expected to meet with the president likely in the Oval Office. Sometime perhaps mid day it's not been a publicly advised yet, but then the president is going out west for a series of campaign swing. So clearly this is hanging over him, but they are expected to have a one on one meeting in again, though it's unclear what that is actually going to do to develop this since the US government and the president has said, we're going to wait for the Saudis finished its investigation here, but they are scheduled to have a meeting tomorrow Anderson. Aren't just me Jeff. Thanks. All of this, of course, is the crisis. The White House clearly did not want joining us now, Jen Psaki, former White House communications director for President Obama former Republican Senator Rick Santorum and former senior adviser to President Obama, David Axelrod did, what do you make of this new reporting from the Washington Post? Just a just we're just getting that the Trump administration and the Saudi Royal family are searching for a mutually agreeable explanation for she's death that doesn't somehow implicate the crown prince. Yeah, my from the beginning was that the trip was more about getting the stories to coordinate in jibe than than a fact-finding mission. This is a sticky wicket for the administration because they've lashed themselves so closely to the Saudis and particularly to the crown prince. And if he is implicated as a mastermind of this assassination, it is a enormous problem for them. So I think that, you know, let's just stipulate by the way that if you are serious about getting to the bottom of it, would you rely on the Saudi government if in fact, the crown prince was involved to come up with a story that got to the bottom of this. I don't think so. I think this is about stalling for time to find a plausible way to explain all this. Senator Santorum. Do you buy this notion that the crown prince. Would oversee an investigation that would have any validity into what happened to Jamaica. Shook. She well look it. The Saudis aren't the only one investigating this. I mean, obviously this happened within Turkey. The Turks have already been very clear that they have information and and there is a great motiv- motivation on the part of of president Erta on to to stick this squarely between the Saudis is if you will. So I, I don't think there's any any doubt that the truth is going to come out about this and you some reporting that that I've heard said that the the secretary of state delivered that that this the truth is going to come out, you can. You can play games the idea of trying to get our story straight. There's not going to be getting story straight. The truth is going to come out about what happened here, and there's gonna be consequences. Probably looking like it's going to be NBS is the one that's going to be holding the bag. And the really the the question for the president is, you know, how do you maintain the religion. Ship with Saudi Arabia, which is key and very strategic and important and and deal or not deal with them Bs. I mean that that becomes another another internal issue for the Saudis. But I mean the notion that the US is waiting around for a Saudi investigation or the results of a Saudi investigation. Does that seem to make any sense to you know it? It's clearly a delay tactic. It's kind of like that old saying about the FOX, watching the hen house, but the FOX is overseeing the investigation of the break into the hen house in this case, and he has feathers coming out of his mouth. I mean, this is not obviously a valid investigation, but I think ultimately, we know what happened here are we know enough to know that MB s likely new because an operation of this level probably wouldn't have happened without his knowledge that obviously, there was a an international reporter who was murdered in all likelihood in this case and that there needs to be some international action. So as Rick Santorum just said, there is a reality here that the United States is an important relationship with Saudi Arabia. Past presidents Republican and democratic has been able to balance the call for human rights action and for freedom of press while also having that relationship. And this administration has to figure out a better way to do that because obviously this is not working and they're really giving them a free pass at this point. Dave, what would be the way to do that? It's obviously a very complex alliance. It's a complex situation and you know, it's obviously a complex part of the world. Yeah, it is and everything that was that that Jenin Rick said is true. In terms of the relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia, it's a, it's an important strategic relationship. But what's clear is that the congress isn't going to sit still if these facts come to the fore about about the the prince's involvement and Saudi is going to have to make a decision. The hard message that may have been delivered by the secretary of state is that if this is the fact that he was involved in this, he can't be the next in line. He can't be the defacto leader of the country and have us work closely with you. So you need to figure this problem out yourselves that would be the tough message to deliver. I don't think the message was, let's we'd better find out what happened here. I suspect the secretary of state has a pretty good sense of what happened here. Senator Santorum has the US tied itself. So closely to Mohammed bin Salman that that relationship is essential to the Saudi relationship, or can you see a Saudi relationship in which NBS is no longer the the crown prince or NBS is a controversial leader? Has you know a lot of enemies not just in Turkey but her, but in Saudi Arabia. And so and there certainly are other capable people there to to fill in b. s. steps aside. And, and in fact, you know, maybe a better course forward for for the Saudi. So this may be maybe a gift wrapped present that the president wasn't expecting, but but actually could be a better course. I think the Saudis are committed to from from a geopolitical point of view to lining up against Iran and trying to establish a new partnership in the Middle East with the United States, Israel, Egypt and others. And that's a very good side. I don't think NBS is unique in that regard. And I think the president has to has to take a step back here and look at what's in the best interest of of those alliances and those relationships and look at it, particularly with respect to Turkey Turkey can can benefit greatly if this is mishandled and the Saudis are our besmirched, and and ended up end up getting harm the the country getting harmed by this. We can't let that happen. The Turks are, I think a greater threat than than this administration realizes. Senator Santorum appreciate it. David Axelrod, Jen Psaki. Thanks very much. A lot more head tonight on the program, their new tough tougher voter, ID laws in effect in some states with the November midterms, just twenty days away. Just ahead. We'll take you to one state where the old voting traditions for one group of residents will be much different when votes are cast next month. Hey, it's Howard Beck, and I've got to buy us Harrison the clippers on Bleacher reports, the forty eight guys about seventy percent vegan base or plan base in every now. And then I give myself the freedom that if I want to go fish, which I do like I keep it open for myself. The full forty eight is now available on Spotify. And of course you can always listen subscribe all the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts, or where ever you listen to podcasts. We're now twenty days away from the November midterm elections. As you probably know if there weren't enough at stake already voter ID laws or the center of a lot of the debate. Democrats are complaining for the most part changes and acted by several states or designed to hurt their turnout Republicans, disagree our senior investigative correspondent drew Griffin tonight, investigates. On the standing rock reservation in North Dakota, Terry, yellow fat for years voted with an ID with no address. In fact, he didn't know his street address. He knew his post office box and that was enough until now no idea why they wanna physical address the post office box. All worked a North Dakota law passed last year and upheld by the supreme court. Last week demands voters in this state and on tribal lands, present a valid ID with an actual street address. While that may sound like it's no big deal to you here on the standing rock reservation and tribal lands across North Dakota. The law is seen to have one purpose. Keep native Americans from voting. It is a very complicated problem because we don't some reservations. They don't have street edge. Arses, majority of them don't have house numbers. So what what they've been utilizing is a PO box. Margaret landed a native American. Outing rights advocate says, just weeks before November's election, some native Americans. Her husband included are scrambling to get new ideas. Just vote. Okay. Neal's landed had no idea. What is street address was he had to call his county emergency coordinator, find out three first avenue. East is what they told me on the phone. The process did take just minutes and he now has a tribal ID. He will be able to vote that it costs anything no fee. That's not the point says white Margaret. It's discriminating disenfranchising to our people to not allow them to vote and it's discouraging on top of that. It's not something to disenfranchise. Anybody l. Jaeger is North Dakota's secretary of still he's trying to implement the new law, which he says is designed to protect the integrity of the vote and what could be simpler. He says than to merely present an ID that says, who you are and where you live pretty simple process. And so other seemed to be making it a lot more than it is. It's pretty simple. Others seem to be saying that you're trying to disenfranchise native American votes, right. Well, we're not. We want every qualified person in the state of North Dakota to be able to vote the backdrop for the push to get this voter. ID law in North Dakota began shortly after democrat, Heidi Heitkamp narrowly won her election for US Senate in two thousand twelve. She won by less than three thousand votes with the backing of native Americans who tend to vote democratic. There is a much bigger story going on here. Laws across the US are being passed to make it harder, not easier to vote since the two thousand sixteen election according to the Brennan center for Justice at New York University. Nine states with Republican state legislatures have passed laws, restricting the vote in Georgia. A law requiring an exact match of voter. Registration information has placed fifty three thousand mostly African American voters on a pending. List in Arkansas. A new photo ID requirement goes into effect this election and in Indiana, the state's use of a nationwide crosscheck system to purge voter rolls was ruled, a violation of the national voter registration act. Why? So many laws take a guess in many places like California, the same person votes. Many times you probably heard about that. There was like to say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory, not a conspiracy theory fucks millions and millions of people. Actually, it is a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence, none that massive voter fraud is taking place anywhere in the United States, North Dakota included. So mister secretary was there, is there a large problem with illegal voting in the state? Well, one thing we can't prove one way or the other in the past we have refer. I cannot prosecute. So in the past we have referred situation. In they haven't been prosecuted. We had a case how many? Well, we just a handful me EDNA Peres with the Brennan center for Justice says these voter fraud laws have little to do with fighting actual voter. Fraud Bernstein said, saying, the kinds of laws that make it harder for people who are poor, traditionally disenfranchised minority groups and folks who generally have a hard time participating in elections. And this is just another barrier for them. Now because of this new law activists, fear, thousands of North Dakota's will not be able to vote. And while CNN has yet to find any evidence to back that up those same activists, say the real effect could be discouraging voters from even showing up with or without proper ID. Drew joins us now. So just explained in inch of these states voters will not be turned away. I mean, they can still vote. They can still meet the requirements to vote. Is that correct? Correct Anderson, and that's the message show up and vote, even if it's a provisional ballot, the poll workers can hopefully help you resolve any issues and to be absolutely transparent. Here, we spent a good deal of time in North Dakota on the phone, working with activists and tribes trying to find even one person who will not be able to vote because of this new law and we couldn't find that person. What active is fear though? Anderson is people who think they may be affected just won't show up that's difficult to measure and just. All right, drew Griffin appreciate the reporting when check in with Christy what he's working on for Cuomo primetime the top of the hour, Chris. How're you doing brother? I'm good how you doing good. We've got new information and new insight tonight insight into what's going on in this hunt for facts with kashogi is that's what it really about with Jamal kashogi finding facts, or is it about buying time? We've got Michael Hayden and Eero some key insights into this process and what doesn't make sense. We also have new information about what Michael Cohen might mean to President Trump and the scope of all the investigations that are going on. He's not talking to prosecutors just about paying women. It's a lot more. It's a lot longer and it could mean things that we have not anticipated in the past, or we're going to take you through all of that. And then I have a closing argument, my friend you're gonna wanna watch. I heard something from the president today that literally almost made me lose a filling from laughing. Now they're not going to give it away. Do you wanna say what you don't? You're not gonna get to keep them guessing. Okay. I don't like that. You have been hiding the most important information that we have tonight. God forbid, there's any other breaking news. I know where you are Anderson. I know where you you are in Arizona and you are getting your just desserts. You are getting the award of all awards for journalists, the Cronkite award for lifetime achievement and you're only thirty seven years old. Plus, you know, thirty seven. I wish. Unless you know, cared brother, you are best you represent the best instincts, the work ethic. Second to none, I have ever seen you make us proud and I am proud to be your friend. People often say to me, man, that Anderson he doesn't like you. You try to make them laugh at never happens. I say he's just that committed to the job. He is all about the job and when he's not on, we're fast friends. Congratulations. Well deserved, I'm proud of you and I'm proud to be your colleague. Congratulations. If I, if I didn't have so much makeup, Chris, you would see me blush. Thank you very much. You? Yes, I probably not. Actually, this is my version of blushes. Yeah, no, I met a, it's you the Cronkite school of journalism and mass communications. 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To Tell The Truth; Pres. Trump Pushes Hot Buttons In Private Talk; Chicago Mayor: "Whitewash of Justice"; Source To NY Times: Pres. Trump Praises Barr At Private Lunch With Republicans: "I Love The AG. He Works Fast"

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To Tell The Truth; Pres. Trump Pushes Hot Buttons In Private Talk; Chicago Mayor: "Whitewash of Justice"; Source To NY Times: Pres. Trump Praises Barr At Private Lunch With Republicans: "I Love The AG. He Works Fast"

"The bad. This is here NCW March madness. Takes the courses the big, Dan. So miss a moment of the action on TBS CBS TNT and true TV and download the March madness live up to watch every game anywhere at anytime. Live. Good evening. Another busy night late word on what the president said today behind closed doors on Capitol Hill some controversial statements that he reportedly hoped would stay behind closed doors, even though he doubted they really would well they did get out, and we'll bring you the details, but we begin with the major new development out something the president talked a lot about today in private and public Robert Muller's conclusions. Justice department official telling CNN that we could be reading his report within weeks, not months weeks. This official also telling us there are no plans to give the White House in early copy and another official this one with ministration confirming that indeed no one the White House has seen a copy which means that when the president today said what you're about to hear him say, he'll miss certainly had not read the entire Muller report. The report was great. It could not have been better in said, no obstruction. No collusion. It could not have been keeping them honest. The president appears to be painting with a very broad brush suggesting that he's seen the Miller report, which he says was great when there's no evidence that he has anything exonerates him and tirelessly now to be generous. The president is always precise with his language. You might have noticed. So assume for minute that he's completing the Mola report with attorney general bars for paid summary of it, which is all that he or any of us have seen at least that we know of. But even allowing for that, he's still falsely characterizing the conclusions the bar summary does not say there was no obstruction of Justice. It says that he the general decided not to pursue an obstruction case. And this summary includes this now famous passage from the full Miller report on the subject of his structure of Justice, quoting well, this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime it also does not exonerate him as to the president's no collusion claim. More clear cut and certainly more favorable to team Trump, and I wanna point out good news for the country. Someone just like the president may be disappointed in the fact that the report didn't find that. Here's campaign conspired or coordinated with Russia impact the election. But the fact that the president didn't do that is good news for America quoting from the bar summary, and again, not the Miller report, but the bars summary of it, quote, special counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the two thousand sixteen US presidential election. So Corning to the attorney general Robert Muller found no evidence of chargeable crimes. And that is certainly a major vindication for the president was there. Inappropriate contact with Russians at didn't rise the level criminality conduct that CNN national security commentator. Susan Hennessy today called awful. But lawful, we don't know. And we won't know one way or another until the complete model report comes out until it does neither we nor the president or anyone else can really make blanket statements about what Robert Muller did not or did uncover the bar summer. As you know, says the special counsel identified two main Russian efforts to influence, the two thousand sixteen election, which of course, parallels. What the intelligence community more broadly suspected in early two thousand and sixteen concluded later that ear n has maintained ever since even as it has the president has resisted that conclusion, and of course, has a long history of giving Latimer Putin the benefit of the doubt something that we don't know the mullahs report will speak to or not what we do know is we've often turn to author strategist analysts in retired army Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters for his perspective on the subject is we do tonight. Colonel peter. So the collusion question, which is not really legal. Carson may be answered. But what remains unanswered, which many things have one is why the president has acted the way he has continually toward Putin over the course of the last three years, and indeed Anderson that is the primary question, and it's astonishing me that we've all lost sight of that. I mean, everything else is important from the question of obstruction of Justice to whether or not there was formal collusion. But the issue of whether Vladimir Putin and his cronies have any direct influence over the president of the United States in his decisions. I cannot imagine a question more important. I can't imagine something that should be a higher priority for our intelligence agencies. And unfortunately, because of the way the intelligence world were works. There may not be answers. The Miller report we may never get the right answers. But it can back comes back to exactly what you said why, you know, why won't the president ever criticized Putin? The the president has well one thing on this really, which is is essentially said, wouldn't it be great? If we could get along with Russia would be a good thing. Not a bad thing might also be as simple as him having an affinity for strong, authoritarian leaders or sort of wanting to emulate them or being intimidated by them. I mean, it's not just Putin Kim Jong UN who says he actually likes as opposed to John McCain who he was not his sort of person, Kim Jong-Un, Gordon. Sarah Sanders, the president likes him, and therefore he eliminated some sang. Actions. Also, you know about do territory, and the Philippines, mom had been soman and others. Well in the looking glass world, Trump things are possible that we never would have thought possible before. But Trump has criticized at some point every other leader resident China, he certainly been vociferous at times of his criticism of Kim. But he won't criticize Putin. And why does he want sanctions really why has he been slow rolling? Sanctions that past is he seemed to just don't tail with Putin. Putin's view of the world. Now Anderson I may be utterly wrong. I may be influenced by my background as an intelligence officer. But again, I go back to what so far has not been addressed the Steele dossier, and it's been pooh-poohed and mocked, but that is way the Russians business given Trump's behavioral profile. He was a perfect target. And you know, if you want various explanations. Hey. Steele dossier is one viable one. Now. Now, maybe did the Russians help Trump just because hated Hillary so much they just want to disrupt their system, it may be a combination of many things. But at the end of the day, we need to know whether or not Vladimir Putin. Whether he has any sort of control over the president United States, what Trump have to meet with them behind closed doors without witnesses again as a foreign Telliance officer. I look for patterns and the Trump pattern of behavior with and toward Vladimir Putin troubles me, deeply and interesting. I've got a stress something I am not flagging for the Democratic Party. I believe both parties have failed miserably in the last presidential election. We had choice between Lucifer and Satan. But I care about the United States of America. I wanted to be well and honestly governed I want American security, and so I I need to know more about this. And I can't let it go. I just can't let it go the Steele dossier just rings true to me. I in the the I mean, obviously, the bar memo is all we've really seen of precious little yes precious. Little I I'm wondering what you made of what you saw in that. And how. It is to you that as much of the Muller report actually be released because we've now learned may it'll be weeks, not months. Well, we're gonna be arguing about this for for a while. And when we do get something in weeks, it's not going to be complete. We'll see what we get. And there'll be a great deal more to talk about. And by the way, with the initial reaction to this very this painfully brief and contentious bar letter. I with the dolorous reaction of the left and the premature euphoria on the right? I was reminded of the wonderful old serial the Bowery boys where they used to say don't jump to contusions, and I'm afraid a lot of people been jumping contusions. This is going to play out for a long time. I certainly wanna see what's in it. But everything that was in that brief far letter matters. Of course, it matters. I'm a little disappointed. I believe in Robert Muller's man of integrity as a little disappointed. He didn't pony up to the bar and make a decision. One way or the other about obstruction of Justice. I trust his findings that there was no formal conspiracy on the between Trump's campaign and the Russians. So it's not a question of getting Trump as much as I may dislike him personally as an American citizen the best outcome for me would be the president is blameless and flawless and Russia has no grip on them. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. But more perspective now on what we might see in the actual Muller reports on its investigative reporter and author and CNN political analyst Carl Bernstein, also former Nixon White House counsel and CNN contributor John dean. So coral bar is saying that they'll make a version of the mole report public could in. We're told it's going to be in weeks. He how much discretion does. He have about what ends up in the version this released except for grand jury material and national security excisions, which might but in both instances require a judge to give permission for the. Material to be used. He has an awful lot of discretion to let us see almost everything, and it's imperative that we see everything, but including in all of this could redact stuff he could in redaction is no satisfactory answer here. Because what we what we know is that we have this very basic finding about quote collusion or no conspiracy with the Russian government and the ambitious conclusion of mother that is quoted by bar about an obstruction that may or may not have been an obstruction. We need to see everything about it. Because presumably, and this is a presumption the whole Muller report will tell a tale there will be connective tissue that hopefully will answer some of Colonel Peter's questions there. We know almost nothing from what Mr. bar served up the other day except a legal. Conclusion that's very important. But in terms of the underlying facts in terms of a narrative about what happened either with the Russians or with an obstruction or non obstruction. We know nothing so far John in terms of of the DOJ thing that has no plans to give the White House an advance copy of the Miller report. A that doesn't mean that they wouldn't brief them in advance of more details of what's in the mullahs report is sue or or does it. And also, I mean, if do you think it's still possible to the White House is going to demand to see an advance copies to see if there's anything on executive privilege. I I would think that would be one of their arguments. They want to see somebody should be withheld for executive privilege reasons because they did supply information to the special counsel with the precondition that they could later invoke executive privilege. That would not be a reason, however to breach the. The norm where they get some sort of deep briefing on this before it sent over. They could there could be like a twenty four hour period to withhold going public. If they want to exert privilege. There's another area that will be withheld is the cases that have been referred out for other US attorneys to look at and if there's material in of that nature in there that'll obviously because they wouldn't want the public their hand of PA prosecutors in various jurisdictions to have their cases that their hands tipped. They don't wanna tip witnesses off in cases as to what's going on or possibly even the defendant in those cases. So that will be withheld. It does seem Karl the president saying, you know, the president is a very good market, or obviously, and you know, has a incredible knack for defining things in a certain way, very successfully. Whether they're true or not. So he is out there saying the entire report is great, no collusion. No obstruction. When by all accounts. He actually hasn't seen there. Reports. Also, he got a football. He ran with it here. And what he did get with the football was a kind of good reading in the first part about quote, no collusion or conspiracy with very carefully stated the Russian government, and he'll keep running with that. And we saw Mr. Giuliani running with it with wolf Blitzer this afternoon on situation room, there's another element to this though. And that is the whole classified counterintelligence investigation, and how much of that can be redacted in such a way that that congress. The senior members of congress who are cleared the see this material can get that part of the story all of this fits together. We we need after two years to definitively know what happened not just with the president of the United States with his campaign. But what the matrix of all of this that we have been talking about debating. Journalists have been writing about there's been used controversy. The country is riven by what has occurred here. And they're now is presumably the means of finding out a good deal that could clarify things if the attorney general of the United States and the president of the United States is willing to allow this material out and Republicans on the hill. This is not a good piece of news that Mitch McConnell. The Republican leaders stepped in and said, well, maybe maybe we won't pass that legislation that says that or that resolution that says that this material should be released John we heard from a former attorney general Eric Holder yesterday saying that in his six years attorney general that he never actually received anything from a prosecutor without a charging recommendation how outside the norm is it for of what Muller has apparently done very outside the norm and certainly in the federal system. That was certainly the standard practice in my time, even and has probably been ever since. So it's it's very unusual that that Muller did not make a recommendation, and it's hard to believe that he was somehow hung up on what decision to make. He just doesn't seem like there's somebody of that nature. I'm John a question to ask outside Carl beans birthday. Thanks very much next new reporting on what the president said this afternoon about the investigation and is new effort to unravel ObamaCare all of it. When cameras were not rolling and later after all that why did a thirties just dropped all charges against Jesse small et. Chicago's mayor is furious. Love all the details. Ahead. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Breaking news on the president's take on the Muller report this time as we mentioned at the top of the program behind closed doors. He spoke today, the luncheon with Senate Republicans, but the contents of the conversation have gotten out it's in no small part due to Maggie Haberman reporting. She's of course, in New York Times White House correspondent CNN political analysts and joins us by phone. So Maggie what was the president's mood like up on Capitol Hill today. He was a bullying for him Anderson. The bully entity guests, you know, he clearly indicated made that clear described the last two years with, you know, a curse word describe what he had been through, you know, and then tick through a litany of either pet peeves or concerns or legislative issues said he wanted the party to focus on healthcare. And he thinks that's incredibly important. He was critical and he had charts accompanying him on the amount of money that the government has spent George Puerto Rico after hurricane Maria, and that I think a lot of attention afterwards. But look this is feeling valedictory for him, and I think it's comparable to how we saw him right after the twenty sixteen presidential election. It was just yesterday. We learned that back in February the president was talking about ways to limit aid to Puerto Rico. So he brought charges today. Was anything determined about what he wants done or not done. No. I mean, he talked about he compared spending for eight Puerto Rico compared to places like Texas that had been hit and ravaged by hurricane. And he suggested that these, you know, coincidentally, red states in southern America had been spending their money better. I think this is a remark that he thinks plays well with his base of support. But at the end of the day Puerto Ricans or are American citizens, and he's talking about how they deserve less relief money. It's ironic thinking that this is a president who comes from New York, which was, you know, hit by a terrorist attack on September eleventh two thousand one and anyone who suggested that the orcs should not get aid afterwards was criticized pretty aggressively, and it's sort of interesting. Seeing how he's going about this, especially considering New York, very large Puerto Rican community would exactly did say about ObamaCare. He said that ObamaCare can't be fixed. And that he gets attacked when he says that and I'm paraphrasing, but it can't be fixed. And he, you know, he he gets criticized for saying it, but he has to say it suggested again as he did on his way into the luncheon that the Republican party will become known as the party of health care. And remember the Justice department filed the suit yesterday to get rid of the ACA entirely. It was a move that was criticized by some even within the administration as really questionably timed given that healthcare is an issue. The Democrats won the midterms on in two thousand eighteen the president's coming off of arguably his best few days in in two years of his presidency and to immediately step into such a controversy struck. Some people surprised Hugh ever it at all. I mean, do we know in the notion that he brought up yesterday wanting an investigation into the rush investigation. He did bring that up. And he has again talked about having been Bagram investigate the investigators, and how the Muller pro came to be, you know, Lindsey Graham has certainly sounded interested in that he expressed on Twitter desire to have James Comey. The fired FBI director come testify for the Senate will do where that goes. I gave her in. Thanks very much kinship. We're no the question would Democrats do with this moment and with the president in a different position than they might have imagined joining us they USA today. Calmness and CNN political analyst Kirsten powers and democratic strategist Paul Begala. I mean Kirsten should come as any surprise that the president is in Maggie. You know is as Maggie says in a in a Bulent mood in a good mood right now. I mean who wouldn't be. Yeah. Now, of course, I think that there's a major cyber a relief among not just the president. But among the people around him who were also caught up in this investigation. And they have a lot to be happy about in terms of the. Ending around collusion. I think that there is still a question of what is actually in molars report. And I think that you know, if Democrats are able to get their hands on that it may be a different story. It may not make the president so happy, but for now I'd say that yes, he has a lot to be happy about, and it is strange for him to be, you know, bringing up healthcare an area where the Republican party really is not favored when it comes to electoral politics. And you'd think he would just be focusing on on. What is pretty undeniably at least one big win for him pull them in one of the things he does seem to be focusing on also is talking about getting vengeance on those. He feels wrong by you know, it seems does that obviously it's not the I don't know. Do you think that's wise with malice toward all and charity toward now? I went I looked at C what President Reagan said after. Iran contra and actually the independent tower commission review board it was not a special counsel review board. He said this. I studied the board's report its findings are honest convincing and highly critical, and I accept them. He called for unity cofer mood forward. Now. That's Ronald Reagan. And I don't think anybody's going to confuse Donald Trump with with President Reagan. But he it really is interesting. He kick it out of his own way. I don't know if it's because he is worried that the full Muller report will be quite as nice as the carefully selected sixty five words that we got from attorney general bar. That's all we got sixty five words from Muller in the bar letter. And I would guess knowing that bar was put there by President Trump that they're they're pretty favorable to Trump because that's what Mr. bar wants to see and believe so I think this lashing out. Maybe it's just what he does. Maybe it's like even at a birthday party. You know, he just throws cake at his guests or some. I don't know. But I suspected that he still he's still pretty word. Do you think the idea of bringing bringing up ObamaCare? Do you think that has anything to do with concerns about, you know, weeks from now the mole report coming out and people still focusing on this give people something else to focus on? And it's obviously a very lightning rod issue. I if I if I were devising him, and if he were still worried about the mole report if I worked for him. I would be I would find issues that he stands for that are popular with the American people in repealing ObamaCare would take away the protection of pre existing conditions of which half of all Americans have a pre existing condition. It would deny healthcare instantly if he wins this lawsuit to twenty three million Americans who now get healthcare and are better off for it. It is it's a stone loser politically. So the fact that President Trump is raising it now it's kind of evidence of how he's never been above fifty percent his entire presidency. He's never had majority support. And despite a strong economy, despite actually terrific skills at manipulating a social media. Particularly and encouraging his base. He's never gotten about fifty. And it's because maybe it's because he really does want to take away healthcare. Maybe we ought to start. I oughta start believing him that he's serious when he says he wants to take away healthcare from twenty three million Americans pre preexisting conditions protections away from hundreds of millions something else. The president reportedly said in his meeting with Senator says that he forgave Hillary Clinton after the election, your thoughts on that are because it seems like he brings her up a lot. But what does he need to forgive for for? I it doesn't even I mean, I really was puzzled by that. I don't know, you know, she didn't do anything to him. So I mean, they ran against each other. Of course, we look at past presidents, and the friendships that they've formed you look at, you know, the first President Bush and Bill Clinton who became good friends e-. You don't you? You just don't see this kind of inability to move forward the way the president seems to have had. But now says he needs to forgive. Her. I've never heard anybody talk this way about a former. You know, somebody that they ran against a former opponent. It's not really it's not personal. It's just a campaign pulled we talked about this last night Nancy Pelosi saying the Democrats in the house should focus on their gender. Their message. Not the Muller prob-. I guess also then by extension impeachment. How many of them do you actually expect to listen to her on that? And is that something you also firmly believe they should do I strongly believe in it during the transition before Nancy became speaker. Again, I talked to her about this. I asked her about impeachment. And then she said, well, what do you think I said, I think your position on peach mint is we're all for it. As soon as the Republicans ask you to do it. That's it's not by parson the take off it won't be parson than the landing that is position. And it has been for for since the beginning of this. This term of hers speaker is very wise, constitutionally wise, most importantly, but also it's politically very wise. The there are some Democrats who want to rush toward impeachment. I've long thought that that's a big mistake. The Democrats now have some power, and they should be judged. On. I think legislation more than investigation and the priority should be legislation with an investigation. And look what speaker Pelosi is doing. She's moving a healthcare Bill not a radical one to take over the entire healthcare, but to improve ObamaCare and to to get prescription drug costs down. I think she's absolutely brilliant on this. Here's from powers public. Thank you very much next more breaking news. Prosecutors make a stunning announcement. And the Justice smell that case what they had to say watch Congo's mayor and police superintendent are outraged. I'm Biagio Messina, and I'm jokin seen. We are the producers behind the H L N television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, the Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelve subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Spreaker news from Chicago tonight, sixteen felony counts of disorderly conduct against actor jussie. Smollet had been dropped prosecutors charged smell at after they say he staged an elaborate hate crime against himself. But then suddenly that same the same prosecutor's office dropped the charges. The move stone. The Chicago's mayor and the police showed burned tendon who weren't made aware of the decision in advance both were visibly angry at a press conference this afternoon, especially because the police say hundreds and hundreds of hours of manpower were deployed in the investigation because staging a hate crime makes victims of actual hate crimes reluctant to come forth. We'll Pulitzer spoke with mayor Rahm Emanuel the evening. There's no sense of contrite. No sense of remorse. The fact is wolf in this act. He not only obviously all the resources the police to investigate and get to the bottom of a hot per alleged hate crime that turned out to be a hoax that the financial problem. But then taking all the notions of what hate crimes, and the reason we have those laws on the books is to protect people of faith, racial, background, sexual orientation. That's they cannot be a victim of crime violent crime of any nature because of who they are what they believe or how they who they love and he used that for his self promotion a smell. It's lawyers say he in fact was attacked and that misinformation they say led to a rush to judgment against him to make matters, even more confusing and assistance state attorney says, quote, we did not exonerate him, unquote. Talk about how unprecedented frankly confusing. This whole moment is, but I I ran decay on how we got here. I gave the description as best as I could you have to understand also that it's Chicago in winter. People can wear ski masks when actor jussie smollet broke his silence describing the alleged attack against him. He was indignant investigators interviewed hundreds of people and scoured dozens of videos from surveillance cameras but were unable to find any evidence of the attack on camera. These two men seen on camera were brought in for questioning though and after forty seven hours they confess to attacking small et. But here's where things get murky. They told investigators jussie smollet paid them to do it. Something small Ed has denied who make something like this up or add something to it. Or or whatever it may be still police said they had evidence the actor paid to men brothers thirty five hundred dollars to stage the attack and gave the money to buy supplies. So despite his very public denials prosecutors charged smell it. With disorderly conduct accusing him of staging a hate crime small let directed the brothers attention towards a surveillance camera on the corner, which he believed would capture the incident in fact, smell let told investigators is likely the incident was caught on camera. Turns out the forty five second attack was just out of you officials also say the actor new the two men he paid in the attack. Both did some work on the show empire and one provided him with illegal drugs. The men were never charged smollet. Meanwhile, pleaded not guilty and paid ten thousand dollars bond. I'm left hanging. My head and asking why? Why would anyone especially an African American man? Use the symbolism of a noose to make false accusations soon. Police say the alleged motive became clear, it was dissatisfied with his salary. So he can cock the story about being attacked same reason, why police say the actor sent himself this threatening letter on the set of empire just days before the alleged attack small let's case seem to be edging toward trial. When suddenly just today. Charges were dropped due out think Justice will serve. No do. I think Justice is. I think the city is still old an apology. This is without a doubt, a whitewash Justice. Mr. smaller is still saying that he is innocent still running down the Cocco police department. How dare him how dear Jessie small sticking to his story despite evidence his attack was nothing more than a stunt. I've been truthful inconsistent on every single level since day one. I would not be my mother, son. If I was capable of one drop of what I've been accused of Randy K, C N N Palm Beach, Florida joining now at CNN legal analyst, Paul Callan and Cheryl Dorsey, a former sergeant with Los Angeles Police Department, Paul does this make any sense to you. I mean, they're saying he's a good exonerated, essentially. That's how he's portraying it. But I mean, he did two days of community service. I guess paid a ten thousand dollar fine, which seems to indicate some form of guilt of something. No. Well, yes, it would. But normally a case like this. You would see a more public admission of responsibility before you just dismiss sixteen counts that were handed down by a grand jury. So this is really a bizarre and unusual way to resolve such a serious case. You know Anderson the reports were that twelve detectives spent over a thousand hours investigating this case, that's an enormous diversion of resources in Chicago a city that has suffered from gun violence that which has been widely publicized in the past. So that's an enormous diversion of police resources, and this is really an unusual disposition feral. I mean as a PD sergeant how unusual is it for the police superintendent to come out and publicly declare the Justice has not been served. Well, listen, I understand that he's upset and reasonably so a lot of the resources were expended and listen at the end of the day, there was sufficient evidence for grand jury to indict right. And there are things that Jesse has not been able to explain and so- forevermore there will now be an asterik after his name because there's always going to be that lingering question of why would you seal all of the information relative to this incident unless you wanted to hide evidence of wrongdoing who pays ten thousand dollars, and let somebody keep it and say, let's just call it even Steven this is an example of the haves and the have nots and right now people who look like me are celebrating because listen two weeks ago. Police officers were acquitted for the murder of Antoine rose and the dead the not deadly but shooting of Charles Kinsey, and so now it feels like for black folks the system is finally working in their favor. Now, listen, he didn't kill anybody. And this was a minor offence. He won this battle. But I don't think he's gonna win the war at the end of the day. What do you make the prosecutor who made the decision to drop? The chargers says he does not believe small at is innocent. That's right. He has said that this is not an exoneration by any stretch of the imagination. And he says basically that he compared this case with thousands of other Chicago cases, where there were reports false reports to the police, and that this disposition is consistent with those cases. So so that's that's the argument that this was in line with other penalties that, but why why seal the case file, well, the case would normally be sealed because any case that gets dismissed is automatically sealed. So that's that really wasn't unusual. But it does block further inquiry into why they did this. And I think also what's really bizarre about this case my experience as a prosecutor and defense attorney has always been that when celebrities are involved in charges like this. Everybody knows the public is watching and you need a transparent handling of the case. So that the public knows. Knows this guy's being treated fairly even though he is a celebrity instead, you have the secret proceeding where suddenly these charges are dismissed, and frankly, I think it does a disservice to future victims of racial harassment and attacks who may not be believed because of a legendary false claim that's been made in this case, Cheryl, the prosecutor justified the decision by saying that his office prioritizes violent crime. He doesn't see small it as a threat to public safety's outta bala- reason to not pursue a case. Well, we'll listen to me. No. I'm sorry. That was for Cheryl, Cheryl, good. Oh, I'm sorry. Excuse me. The prosecutor has to autonomy over what they want to press, and what they wanna file charges on. So they get to do whatever they want, and they can give whatever reason rationale for doing that. And it's the ball is in their court. And this is why the Chicago police department is so upset because number one they weren't given advance notice a number two who overrides the will of a grand jury indictment. Cheryl Dorsey started Paul very quickly. Yeah. I wanted to add one thing I think also the prosecutors botched the case because look at what they did. They let the two men who allegedly attacked him ago free. So you have three people involved in a crime one gets charged to go free. What happens at the time of trial when they testified odds to one another would be a very difficult case to win. So I think the prosecutors botched the case when they presented it to the grand jury of the way, they presented it. And this is an easy out for them. Paul Callan appreciate Cheryl Dorsey as well gravy. Thanks so much as you heard earlier, President Trump once again, a upset about the amount of federal funds earmarked for disaster aid to still suffering Puerto Rico coming up we'll talk to the mayor of San Juan about what the president is saying now. The case is we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifle, and which man was telling the truth forensic files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes. Every Monday Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your forensic fix. That's the breaking news from earlier in the broadcast at a luncheon with Republicans today, President Trump complained once again about the amount of disaster relief sent to Puerto Rico in the wake of the devastating storms year and a half ago back then you'll recall, the president visited the island shortly after hurricane Maria. Struck met with residents he drew controversy tossing paper towels the crowd last night, we reported on a Washington Post account that said the president recently held a separate meeting and ask some of his top aides for ways to cut relief funds to the island just before airtime. I spoke with the mayor of San Juan Carmen you lean cruise. Of course, it what's your reaction to the president today. Complaining to senators that Puerto Rico is getting too much relief funding in the way, it's being spent. Well, the president continues to show his vindictive behaviour towards Puerto Rico, and he continues to make the humanitarian crises worst what we're talking about is a gap of six hundred million dollars that is needed to feet Puerto Rico. So he wants to Hoffman puff just like he was King Kong. But we soon really is. He has insurance that people don't have food to put on the table. He doesn't understand that was still recuperating from a devastating situation which he made worse, by the way by just causing a humanitarian crises just to give you an idea. Anderson. One point three million Puerto Ricans out of three point two million that live in the island nation, Puerto Rico are receiving some sort of the traditional assistance. So that means that about forty three percent of the population needs this to put food on the table of that one. One point three million around. Forty five percent are children elderly or people that are with severe disabilities. And we continue to hear about the humanitarian crises and the human crises on fold because the president continues to be too stubborn to do. What is right? You. You talked about what you said was vindictiveness on his part. What do you think is the source of that? And how much of this is political that, you know, a number of the states the relief efforts. He's looking at in various states and praising are in red states and Puerto Rico is is not. Well, I it's totally vindictive. And I'll tell you why on Tober fourth the precedent 2017. The president came down to Puerto Rico just for a couple of hours and one of the things that he said in a meeting that I was at was I hit to tell you Puerto Rico buggy thrown a budget our budget out of whack from all the money that we have thrown down here. And this was only a few weeks after the hurricane that was the same afternoon where he threw paper towels at people an image that will forever live in the heart and minds of people all over the world. And that does not reflect that all the goodness and good heart of the American people in the spirit of hundreds of Americans that have come down to Puerto Rico sins just to help and to support awesome, beginning a reconstruction. Remember, something President Trump look bad in the eyes of the world. He was not up to. Party. Didn't do what he was supposed to do. He couldn't get it done because he lacked leadership. So now rather than looking at himself and see what he could have done better. He blames the people of Puerto Rico. He blames anybody that does not agree with him. Now, I have a message for the Republicans in congress. You don't have to be held hostage to a vindictive behavior from a precedent that just cannot get it done. It is your duty to not let one point three million people in Puerto Rico starve three thousand already died because Donald Trump could not get it done. And what I am pleading with you is not to condemn others to die because it just seems and the question for the precedent is how many deaths how many deaths of Puerto Ricans will be enough for him to do. Right by us. Aircrews are present talkative. Thank you. In with Chris you what he's working off Cuomo prompt, Tom, Chris, how're you doing my friend? Good. All right. So we have jussie smollet. What are we going to do with? What do you make of that? Here's at look they made him a deal. The question is why was this about politics? This about a hole in the case. The prosecutor should've said a lot more and the fact that they're not is suspicious. So we're taking it to Cuomo's court. We're going to look at what should be obvious, and what still needs to be known the word of the day. We'll be exonerate the prosecutor there went out of their way to say, you know, we're not saying he's exonerated. Prosecutors. Don't exonerate people Anderson. You know, that means that you're innocent there about guilt or not guilty making a case after a certain bird, right beyond a reasonable doubt. Why they use it there? Why was it using the mullahs report? We'll talk about both. But another big issue for us tonight is healthcare legally. Why is the president doing what he's doing is? They're sufficiency for the move. They're trying to do to turn over the. And then politically what happens if they're successful when they have nothing to take its place now. Luckily for Chris eight minutes from Alyce, then still had Republican Senator Mike Lees unusual attempt to battle the Democrats so-called green new deal using Ottoman. The Empire Strikes back a really bizarre portrait of late president. Ronald reagan. The ridiculous is next. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with bollandbranch, the upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. 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Yaser now a few things I'm a little concerned that incentive released mind. President Reagan requires both in machine gun and a rocket launcher. Well, I never saw prison. Reagan writing a dinosaur. I do remember hearing that up until like Franklin Roosevelt Air Force One was just a pterodactyl. But regardless that prop will surely give David Gergen night terrors as the center he was just getting warmed up. That was Gallagher legendary comedian Gallagher smashing a watermelon. Would you might never have thought you'd see unsee span? But at this rate give it a couple of weeks back to Senator Mike Lee hater of the green new deal lover of seahorses. This is a picture of aquaman superhero from the undersea kingdom of Atlantis. I draw your attention Mr President to the twenty foot. Impressive seahorse. He's writing aquaman, by the way. A fun fact about aquaman, he's actually seven two lines the presidency right after tramp from lady and the tramp now at this point. You might be asking how many giant posters did. Centrally have today to which I say how much time you have these little cows represent the bovine population of America today. On the right is the future population under the green new deal? Every cow. I spoke to said the same thing. Boo. This might have played great in the office. I don't know look. I'm no Gallagher. But that punchline it needs some work. Centrally had plenty of other time to win back his audience, which from the sounds of the microphone that were picked up based on the audience was two guys who wandered in from playing Keno reaction to centrally came swiftly from green new deal proponent, congresswoman, Alexandria, Okaz, yo Cortez quote. If this guy can be Senator you can do anything, maybe you can. But can you be a Senator and film expert these images or from the indispensable documentary film, shark NATO, four governor Herbert bravely fought the animal off with the tennis racket that he keeps by his desk precisely for occasions such as this. Yeah. I keep tennis racket around to accept mine is Tibet Blitzer away from my stash of colusa where was centrally going with all this. What is the real solution to climate change? He had a proper that one two. Oh, yes. The solution to so many of our problems at all times in all places. Is to fall in love get married and have some kids. Okay. I love babies. I got no problem with them, except they do seem a little judgy. Anyway, very. These are judgy. Anyway, there you have it. The problem saying, I don't know why they'd be is being judgy. The props say it all go borrow T. Rex by the way, she showed us I felt for the woman whose job it was to like keep going along with Senator. And then have the next giant thing. Ridiculous thing ready to go. I mean, I don't know like it's probably have to practice that. And was worried about it all day. That's the kind of thing. I think about the props set at all go borrow T Rex Brian stores from the Reagan library with or without a rocket launcher senior regards aquaman, maybe heckle some cows. And ride that dinosaur all the way to baby making clock on the ridiculous. And that actually happened in our government on Capitol Hill news continues wanna hear over Chris for Cuomo primetime. Chris.

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Trump and Taxes: The Art of the Dodge

Trump, Inc.

30:09 min | 2 years ago

Trump and Taxes: The Art of the Dodge

"The new question new subject. When are you going to release your tax returns? Well, having the made their extremely complicated. It's gonna take a little while. I thought it from the moment. He entered the race for president. The issue of taxes stuck to Donald Trump, like gum on the sole of his shoe. What's the hold up very well, very big tax returns. The biggest I guarantee of this, the biggest ever in the history of what we're doing. So it's very complicated set, but we'll be releasing eight months after entering the race offering vague excuses. Trump finally gave a concrete reason not to do what every major party presidential nominee has done for decades in a debate. He said he's under audit by the Internal Revenue Service. As far as my return, I wanna file it except for many years. I've been ordered at every year twelve years or something like that. Every year they offered me experts say it doesn't usually work that way. I have friends that are very wealthy people. They never get audited, I get every year. I will absolutely give my return, but I'm being audited now for two or three years. So I can't. Do it until the audit is finished. Obviously, I think people would understand a few days later, Forbes magazine published an opinion piece by Beverly Hills, tax attorney responding to Trump's statement. This lawyer wrote that as a wealthy man Trump was likely the target of a special group within the IRS. The group is informally known as the wealth squad includes highly trained. Examiners who look beyond the single tax return to all the related business entities and examination by the wealth squad can take years. He wrote quote, would any experienced tax lawyer representing Trump in an IRA audit, advise him to publicly release his tax returns during the audit. Absolutely not. The man who wrote this, a respected tax attorney named Charles Rettig, come to order Reading's name was in the news this summer, like to welcome everyone to on the pending nomination of Mr Charles Rettig. The nominated service IRS commissioners very important position in this country. Last month, the Senate approved Charles rags nomination. The man who argued Donald Trump shouldn't show American voters. His tax returns is now America's chief tax collector. Hello and welcome to Trump Inc an open investigation from propublica and dulling on e. I'm Ilya marritz WNYC I'm Jesse Eisenberg from propublica. This season of trumping is all about the ways people around the president are working to profit from his position. And one of the biggest most direct ways is taxes. It says something about the Trump administration's view of taxes that this is the guy Charles Riddick who Trump appointed to head up the IRS recent agency chiefs have been picked for their managerial experience. Given that the IRS is a giant government bureaucracy. They've not been tax lawyers who spent their decades studying how to help rich clients creatively legally work. The system Trump's decision not to release his own taxes, and then his decision to hire the guy who said that was a good idea. It leaves us with a lot of questions about one of Donald Trump's biggest legislative victories. The tax cut. That passed last year. This is the only major legislation signed by this president. And the main aspect of that overhaul said it provides a huge cut for corporations and wealthy people. And there are specific tax cuts aspects of the law that in particular help Donald Trump and his allies and friends, and let's not forget all the ways the Trump family and the people around Trump have thumbed their nose at the IRS years. Before those changes to the tax law sometimes to the point of criminality or other legal violations, there's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort convicted this year for a complex international tax fraud include five counts of filing false tax returns untended of millions of dollars in political consulting income, personal lawyer. Michael Cohen. Pled guilty to eight felony charges convicted of domestic tax fraud. That was extremely simple, which he failed to report approximately four point one million dollars in reported income. Then there's the. Trump's themselves, Donald is thrilled his kids, they're named in a civil suit here in New York. That suit is over the Trump foundation. It violated a legal prohibition against self dealing which allegedly violated a whole slew of IRS rules governing nonprofits families. Again, the opposite of charity. Now the details about the Trump say, they've done nothing wrong. There's a patter to Trump in Texas, and that's what this episode is all about. He didn't pay any federal income tax so that make smart. Here's the pattern and by the way, it applies to both written rules laws and unwritten rules like norms. Number one, he acknowledged them just like we told you by not releasing his tax returns. And number two, he breaks them number three. Now that he's president key changes the rules. In this episode, we're going to show you all three of these things happening. Ignore break change. I have legally used the tax laws to my benefit add to the benefit of my company, my investors and my boys. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly, I have brilliantly used those long. You'll talk with tax lawyer who specializes in helping rich people get in trouble with the IRS get out of trouble. She says it's a good time to be a wealthy rule breaker, and we'll learn the specific tax benefits Trump and his family members are getting. There is a ton. We don't know about Donald Trump and taxes because he's kept his tax return. Secret. One thing is sure if Democrats take one or both houses of congress, this fall, they'll demand receipts, but thanks to some really excellent reporting. We know more than we did on election day twenty sixteen about Trump's taxes. We're gonna start our tour with an exceptionally audacious cr-. Creative tax dodgers the president's late father, Fred Trump. She, we go. Just a simple Canadian working at the New York time. Suzanne, Craig is an investigative reporter. You may have read her recent story reported with two other times, journalists about how Donald Trump's father, Fred Trump built a fortune and passed it on to his children while paying as little in taxes as possible. The story is almost as long as Shakespeare's MacBeth, Andrea read it three times. I went to see Suzanne Craig, the other day at work. She says, Fred, Trump's wealth came from apartment complexes. He built in Brooklyn and queens after World War Two, when demand was high. I don't think we can do to these homes, but veteran certainly should be done. Found this and the WNYC archives often the veteran just married and how small family. But there were no vacancies. Fred Trump put up unlovely brick buildings with lovely names like beach, haven shore, haven park Brier and bell crest hall. We sort of treated each building like a little personality profile. A lot of people are obsessed with Trump's tax. Returns, probably no one more than Suzanne Craig. She's the one who got a great scoop during the twenty sixteen campaign. Someone actually mailed her part of Donald Trump's nineteen ninety-five tax return, which he filed with his then wife Marla Maples. It showed a loss of almost a billion dollars harder up your head around in itself. But what that gave him which was significant was basically a gift card from the IRS in order to shelter, taxable income up to a billion dollars going forward. So in theory, you would think he maybe never would pay taxes again. Craig's curiosity led her to trove of over one hundred thousand pages of Trump family documents. Going back to the nineteen forties more than two hundred talks returns from Fred Trump's empire. Bank statements, financial statements, his own personal Bank records. It was incredible. She didn't tell us who gave it to her. It took Craig and her colleagues, two or three weeks just to scan all the documents into a computer to actually digitize them. And then the reporters spent months reading and interpreting the documents. These numbers told a clear consistent story about Fred Trump and his son Donald. I think they took delight in the talks games that they played any dollar that they could keep away from the tax man victory for them. So let's touch on one of the tax dodges grant her retained annuity trusts or 'grats. This is a way a rich person can avoid inheritance taxes when passing on an asset to their child. This is done with real estate or stocks, things value. You can even put pieces of art in them from one generation to another with paying either very little or no talks. Basically the child pays their parent to buy the asset through a trust. They can save a lot of money by undervaluing that asset. And Craig says, that's what the Trump's did. Hear the toxin gets very little money. Actually. BDO does a commercial on it where there's a father and daughter and vineyard. BDO is an accounting firm. We watched the video together. You can't just inherit for thousand acres. He's proposing to him that she's got this great idea where you can transfer all this stuff to me and put it in and trust, and we won't really owe any taxes which doesn't use the word grab. But that's what they're talking about. There's a. Away. I can buy business. We set up a trust and that's how he transferred to stop the estate tax. There are no estate taxes, and you keep getting paid saying as before run this BDO it was their idea. Thirty second version. This incredible grand. That's interesting though because if you would only know what it was, if you speak the secret language in, obviously a lot of people do according to the times to Trump's weren't just using textile. That's advertised on TV. They were undervaluing the underlying asset which can be illegal all to avoid paying taxes. Some of the maneuvers, the New York Times called quote, outright fraud. And here we get to part two in our framework Trump breaking the rules. It's interesting how it worked. It's not really. It's not complicated anyway. It sort of out of monster on a movie for upkeep on his empire of dowdy, outer borough, permanent buildings. Fred Trump was regularly buying you a quick men and supplies. He would buy boilers fridges and stoves by paint supplies. Nothing too strange about that. He was driving his own bargains building by building, and then one day county shows all county building supply. Now, this is a head scratcher to figure out what this was. One of the reporters from the times went to the Bronx to talk to a guy who used to sell boilers to Fred Trump. His name is Leon Eastman, and he remembers a deal negotiated with Fred Trump in nineteen Ninety-three for sixty boilers a huge deal for him. He remembers the lunch. He remembers the restaurant. They went to. He remembers that he had to pay the tab, and he said, there was no all county at this lunch was Fred Trump and Fred Trump's people, and the first thing you ever heard about. County. It was when the checks started willing 'cause they were cutting the checks for you. Got this. The middleman company, all county building supply is paying the price Fred Trump negotiated, and here's the trick. All county would then Bill Fred Trump a higher price, a markup of twenty percent or fifty percent maybe more. Why? Well, it turns out all county was owned by Donald Trump and his siblings and a cousin. So the markup on those boilers went straight from Fred, Trump's pockets to the next generation and all county shareholders companies, siblings split the difference that is simply a gift from Fred disguised as a business transaction, whatever taxes they're paying here are certainly less than the gift tax or the estate tax. Craig says, all toll, Fred Trump was able to steer at least one point, six billion dollars of his wealth through his kids, and they all paid minimal taxes. The president's press secretary. Sarah Huckabee. Sanders says Donald Trump only got a one million dollar loan from his dad. That's it. A lawyer for Trump called the times is reporting one hundred percent false and highly defamatory. Is there a nickname for what they did with all counties assure hand. But in the business, people know for like, that is not that I. I know of, no, there maybe. Have you heard of one middle, Anna. Yeah, it's something out of. We wanted to know how the Trump's maneuvers look to someone who's day to day job is helping rich people with taxes. So we call Jenny Jonsson wear. I am a AXA Turney and specializes in defending high net worth taxpayers in criminal and civil matters with the IRS. We're basically does the same kind of work, Charles Rettig did. He's the guy who Trump picked for Commissioner of the beleaguered IRS. She thinks highly, I think he actually understands tax enforcement and we'll do his part to turn agency around anyway where red Suzanne Craig's article. She was not entirely surprised, but the all county middle manning thing. It did catch her attention because it was perfectly designed to disappear in the blind spot of iris auditors. The fact that there was a disguised gift going out of the fathers state and into his children's state. Without getting taxed would fall through the cracks. You would never notice to catch text dogs like this. You would need to look at the big picture. She says, but typically the IRS doesn't do that. It takes a lot of resources. So let's say an examiner scrutinizing a business partnership today would pull one partnership return and take a look at it. Well, if that partnership is solely owned by an individual who owns forty three other partnerships, twenty seven as corporations and five trusts, and it's doing business with those other entities than the IRS is going to miss a lot. You have to understand how that entity functions within the unit of all of the other different entities owned by that family and how their business relationships actually completed a gift to another generation g you say the IRS ought to do something about that. Guess what less than a decade ago they did. They created the global high wealth industry group also known as the well squad. We talked about this right at the beginning of the episode. If Donald Trump is indeed under audit, this is the group that might be doing it. I heard of it in two thousand nine when Commissioner showman announced it, and really to great fanfare talking about how this was a game changing strategy for the IRS. We have a new global high will operating unit. Here's iris Commissioner, Doug Schulman the following year, we're, we're taking a unified look at the entire web of business and economic entities controlled by high wealth individuals. So we can better assess all of a sudden lots of financial planners and trusts and estates. Lawyers wanted to hear from me about how this is going to play out and how this is going to affect their clients took a while to figure this out. But the answer at least for where's clients is not so much. It's not a major stressor. For high wealth taxpayers the way it used to be largely because those of us who've done a lot of audits have found that this didn't turn out to be as effective as we all feared. The IRS doesn't make it civil cases public. So our knowledge of the group is limited. So in the beginning you had a bunch of these and then they've tapered off and in the last few years you've hardly had any. Is that right? Right. I think I closed the most recent one about eighteen months ago and I haven't had any new ones come in. Partly this is because of bad planning. She says, the wealth squad just never found its place within the IRS. The leaders kept changing, but a big part of it was budget cuts pushed by the Republican congress. Michael league. Paul Callan I have been looking at this for months and it's really astonishing. The IRS budget has been cut steadily since two thousand eleven. It's two point. Five billion dollars less than it was back. Then the number of auditors at the IRS is below ten thousand. You know, when it was last that low nineteen fifty three the year Stalin died. The economy was a tenth of the size. It is today the rate it which the agency audits tax returns. That's the bread and butter business of the IRS. Well, that's plummeted forty, two percent since the budget cuts, it's basically a million audits year of those million audits. Do you know how many cases they bring criminally for tax evasion when you have legal income, but you've cheated under taxes. I have no idea about eight hundred. This is a country of three hundred thirty million people. If I were good at whistling whistle. This all means that the IRS has a resource crisis in huge pressing business, and a lot falls by the wayside. We requested an interview with the IRS. We submitted a list of questions. The agency did not respond. So this is what was already happening when the man who bragged about not paying taxes who hit his tax returns from the American people who might himself be under audit by the wealth squad was sworn in as president. And since then morale is also really, really down among the enforcement units within the IRS and they've been distracted doing other things. What other things big things. Most Americans will be able to file taxes on a single sheet of paper. What do you think about that? Kevin? You still they're going to be a Trump made it clear when he became president, that one of his top priorities was rewriting the tax code and within months. He and the Republican congress succeeded h official. The house has passed the tax Bill president expected to sign at the only question is when and where and where we do expect to hear from President Trump once again this after. So this is the Bill right here, and we're very proud of it. It's a tremendous thing for the American people that's going to be fantastic for the economy, a wholesale rewrite of the tax code on a scale that hasn't been seen since the time of Ronald Reagan, we're going to sign this. Little picture of it. It fits nicely. The bucks. Jimmy Johnson wear concede at its put the IRS under enormous strain. The IRS is not putting out guidance. They're not telling people how they intend to interpret the new law. So many things are so very different in the new law, and we can't get any guidance about how it's supposed to work from an IRA that doesn't have an employee's or budget to give us guidance. What's the overall picture for the wealthy in the United States when it comes to taxes is a good time to be wealthy in the United States. If you are about your tax planning. Probably so for tax payers who want play the audit lottery and be very aggressive in their positions and just hope they never get chosen or hope that if they do get shows and they can hire me to navigate them through that process, it's a great time for those taxpayers because all the enforcement personnel across the board are way down. People are retiring and they're not being replaced and the IRS can only do so much with so little. Will the right back. We've seen how Trump ignores rules norms on taxes, how he breaks them. Now how he's changing them president. So Donald Trump and the Republican, congress passed a giant tax overhaul. It was sold as tax reform and it was sold as a tax simplification. Was it? No, absolutely. Not. I mean, I mean, it's it any where to begin. This is Jesse Drucker. He's a reporter at the New York Times who has spent years reporting on the intricacies of our tax system. The tax overhaul, both introduced kind of new, not just complexity, but also sort of incomprehensible complexity Drucker who by the way is a friend of mine, says the entire process of drafting legislation was rushed. There were no hearings to kind of explain why this industry should be favored in that wind shouldn't be. I mean, that was kind of like a massive tax cut for certain segments with no discussion of why it was happening. The tax code was already friendly to real estate investors in the new code. Some of these friendly provisions have been expand. Let's have a look. One of them is called depreciation. The way it works is when you basically the tax code has long recognized that certain kinds of property like factory Queant encounter wear and tear in the course of a year. The owners take a deduction on their taxes based on the value equipments lost. This applies to commercial building owners, even though their property often gains in value. How generous is this spell? They called depreciation. Jesse Drucker reported based on documents reviewed that over an eight year period President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, probably paid little or no federal income tax in five of those years. He could avoid taxes because he owns a lot of real estate and on paper. He could report a lot of depreciation. You can have in the real world, lots of real world profit and free cash for you and your business. But you're getting this deduction essentially for expenses that you don't really pay in the real world. Now, can I do this? If I have my my cabinets. Need replacing, haven't they lost value? Appreciate your cabinets. Actually look pretty good, but I think that no, so so the issue is that this is something that applies to someone's business investment, right? You as a as a homeowner or an apartment owner, you don't get to take advantage of this. So that's a big tax perk for the real estate industry and the Jared Kushner's of the world. It's existed for years. A spokesman told the times that Kushner quote, paid all taxes do. Now let's move to inauguration day twenty seventeen. The Trump administration comes into office and they're in office for less than a year. And the president signed this massive overhaul of the country's tax laws that the specifically made the provision that Jared Kushner uses even more generous. They basically opened up the opportunity to take much bigger, much faster deductions related to depreciation. There's one more perk you need to know that's benefiting the Kushner's. It has a classic IRS name, ten thirty one like kind exchanges. There's nothing unusual or nefarious about this. It just says, if you sell a thing of value, you can avoid paying capital gains tax by buying something similar within a given timeframe. Ten thirty one's been used in lots of industries, livestock coins, aircraft all kinds of insects when people want to swap one cow one Cessna for another or an impressionist painting. It's very popular in the art field. And this is one techs vantage actually was removed in the new law. Well, it was removed for some investors in the tax law overhaul signed by the president last year, a limited ten thirty one for every industry in America except one real estate. Polling shows that the tax rewrite is not popular with the American people. They're even things the real estate industry doesn't like like a reduced tax deduction for mortgage interest payments on expensive homes. But overall, this industry did strikingly. Well. The reason this is important is kind of looking at Jared Kushner's taxes to the prism of his ability to take advantage of things that are in the tax law. And the two things that were aware of that drove his tax Bill. So low were made more generous in the law. Did he have any hand in writing the law? You know, it's a really interesting question. I mean, we asked his spokesman what role he had in some of the provisions that were made more generous that he took advantage of and they wouldn't answer and I was a little surprised. They definitely didn't say he had no role in. Humankind has not always pay taxes before the dawn of agriculture people foraged and hunted, their food. There was no government and nothing for the government to take. It was only when people started growing grain historians believe that the first states came into existence and the first taxes at the end of the season, the farmers needed to protect the grain. They had grown so they paid the prince a portion of their around this time that cats were domesticated as another way to guard your grain anyway, this social contract, pay your taxes, get government protection. It's been with us ever since in ever more complicated forms, taxes predate democracy there, a necessary condition for the functioning of society. Okay. So that's pretty high falutin. Thank you for the history lesson Ilia. Oh, you're very welcome. But let's think about what has actually happened with Fred and Donald. And Jared, they have as we all know, commercial real estate businesses that's not a piece of breakthrough intellectual property or some disruptive business model success in commercial, real estate is much more dependent on having a solid tax base in their local area, which means real estate appreciates when a city functions when there's low crime because the police are funded when their job opportunities because people want live there and create businesses, and they have a customer base, the parks are beautiful, the roads and bridges and subways function when the schools are adequately funded and providing education when people get subsidies to afford the rent that all takes tax dollars. So what it Fred and Donald and Jared do well, they took those tax dollars going. Into New York City and New Jersey, which thrived as New York did and privatized a portion of the public gain, they owed their wealth in large part. It can be said to our collective payments and there's more they game the Techsystems so they would pay even less. Then they get into power and they gave themselves huge techs cuts effectively. They were finalizing their transfer of public spending to their private purse. We are starting to see the consequences of tax overhaul this month. The treasury department reported that corporate tax revenue is down thirty. One percent President Trump promised economic growth and that is happening. But the US federal deficits biking seventeen percent a year ago bringing the deficit to seven hundred seventy nine billion dollars highest. The deficit has been in six years. The publican leaders are warning there may have to be cuts social programs. Remember this overhaul is the first true rewrite of the tax code since Ronald Reagan. And if history is a guide, it will be with us. Long after Trump has exited the stage. Coming up on trumping the president's part time, unpaid lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. What does he make money. Theron. By the way we love tips right now, we're looking to hear from people who've had experience owning property in Trump branded buildings that leader failed. If that's you or someone, you know, we wanna hear about it. Go to trumping podcast dot org to find out how to get in touch. This episode was produced by Meghan treat. The senior producer is made Kramer the associated producers, Alice wilder Bill Moss's the technical director with additional help from James Coyle Charlie, Herman Nicobar, Chavarria and Eric Manzke, or the editors, Robin fields propublica managing editor. Jim Schachter is the vice president for news at WNYC. Steve Engelberg is the editor in chief at propublica. We sincerely thank palled. He'll Andre Andre, comet and being for their help. In making this episode. The music is my Hannah's Brown.

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Sorry, Not Sorry; New Tension In The Persian Gulf; Disinformation Campaign; New Orleans On Alert

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Sorry, Not Sorry; New Tension In The Persian Gulf; Disinformation Campaign; New Orleans On Alert

"It's an edge of your seat. Thrill ride that will change overseas forever. The Movies Sundays Nine PM on C._N._N.. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses visits any today at Xeni Dot dot com slash C._N._N.. Good evening very minor. Part of the news tonight in Washington is whether the President's Labor Secretary Alex Acosta will actually keep his job. The larger story is whether back when he was U._S.. Attorney in Miami Miami Acosta did all he could to put financier Jeffrey Epstein man he apparently believed to be a serial child molester rapist behind bars and before we even listen to any of secretary causes televised public accounting this afternoon for the decisions he made aide back then for the deal he cut for what he did and didn't say to the accusers the alleged teenage victims WanNa reduce some what the chief Palm Beach County Prosecutor at the time just said about it tonight and I'm quoting as the state attorney for Palm Beach County for Sixteen Years Years Nineteen Ninety three to two thousand nine which included the entire period of the Epstein investigation. I can emphatically state. Mr Costa's recollection of this matter is completely wrong. You went on to say if Mr Kosta was truly concerned with the state's case Hayes and felt he had to rescue the matter he would move forward with the fifty three page indictment that his own office drafted instead Mr Kosta brokered a secret plea deal that resulted in a non prosecution agreement in violation of the Crime Victims Rights Act Mr Costa he concludes should not be allowed to rewrite history and here's some of the real history. It's a passage from the Miami Herald Prize winning investigation of the allegations against Jeffrey Epstein friend and neighbor at the time of Donald trump a friend of president Clinton and Britain's Prince Andrew and as you know Epstein is now facing similar federal charges eleven years later in New York and I'm quoting now Epstein Scheme I began to unravel in March of two thousand and five when the parents the bay fourteen year old girl told Palm Beach Police that she'd been molested by Epstein at his mansion. The girl reluctantly confessed that she'd been brought there by two other girls in those girls pointed to two more girls who had been there by the time to Texas track down one victim there were or two and three more defined soon there were dozens dozens of underage girls the Palm Beach Police chief who supervised the investigation telling the Herald and I quote we didn't know where the victims would ever end. That's what the U._S.. Attorney's office stepped into in two thousand thousand seven and two thousand and eight so many charges in fact they filled fifty three pages enough to put Epstein away for the rest of his life. Instead though in what's being described as a highly unusual non-prosecution agreement Epstein was put on the sex offender registry USTRY and allowed to plead guilty to a single state prostitution charge for which he served thirteen months essentially part time in the Palm Beach County jail it was actually allowed to leave jail and go to his office six days a week. Now terms of the agreement were kept secret from the accusers until after the fact unlawfully according to a recent court ruling in addition at immunize any unnamed co-conspirators and essentially shut down any further federal investigation in that jurisdiction today Secretary Acosta Asta went before the public he repeatedly said that <hes> taking Epstein to trial would have been quote rolling the dice and quote even though Justice Department figures show that U._S. attorneys brought more than thirty six hundred similar cases between the years two thousand and four in two thousand and thirteen a cost repeatedly shifted responsibility for the decision onto career prosecutors repeatedly lamented the times were different back then as if back then were fifty years ago instead of two thousand eight when all this occurred the one thing constant did not do not once was apologized to the alleged victims or even say he'd do anything differently secretary. A lot of people are watching this news conference including several young women who say they were teenagers when Jeffrey Epstein sexually assaulted them they say they went to you looking for help and they didn't hear back from you until it was too late. Do you owe them an apology so you're raising the issue a victim notification and in the documents that I've circulated I've addressed the victim modification as well okay so that's not even answering the question that was asked let alone offering any kind of an apology and no regrets here either standing today. Are you basically saying that you feel that you did everything you could. You got the best deal you could get and you have no regrets. We believe that we proceeded appropriately. A federal judge says otherwise the new indictment in fact suggests otherwise as well well the fact that dozens of accusers had no say in the deal that certainly says something just not to the Labor secretary. You really have nothing else to say to these victims beyond you should come forward that places a lot of burden on children <hes>. What else do you have to say? You've avoided addressing these these people directly so to be clear that is not all. I said you know I think if I recall and I obviously don't have transferred here but you know what what I've said. Previously is I have seen these interviews and I can't. I generally be can't begin to fathom what these victims have been through. I don't think that anyone that has not been in this situation. Nations can begin to fathom the closest. I can come to think what would I feel like if one of my girls was going through this well keeping them honest. No one doubts that a father would do to protect child. The question tonight is is what did a public servant that public servant WHO's now serving the cabinet of the trump administration do or not do to protect everyone's children Jim Acosta. We're going to talk to him. Shortly joining us right now is the Miami Herald's Julie Brown who's done the definitive reporting on the Epstein deal and is largely responsible for the new spotlight on this entire episode Julie. Thank you so much for joining us. Surgery Casa seemed to argue that this plea deal he struck with Epstein was the best that he could do. Is that true well. That's his belief in there are certainly people in his office that agree with him <hes> but I think a lot of law enforcement people have been on here all day on C._N._N.. All Day explaining that there were other options <hes> first of all he if he felt like he didn't have enough evidence or that some of which all the evidence that he had was remarkable in my opinion and other experts opinions but even if he felt that this was a little shaky and he couldn't get a conviction he should've followed what is F.. B. I wanted which they want it. They were already finding evidence that this went beyond Palm beach the the F._B._i.. Files show that they were traveling to New York New Mexico to interview witnesses now the reason why they were doing that is they were understanding outstanding that that this kind of crime this kind of sex pyramid scheme involving young girls. <hes> isn't something that he probably would just do in Palm Beach when he traveled so regularly would be natural for the F._B._i.. To want to examine whether he was doing thing it elsewhere and so had they stuck with the case and not done this plea agreement perhaps they would have realized that this was a much bigger operation and just in terms of this operation meant. How big was this? How long did this go on for is that is that I mean? How were you able to trace this back in terms of what he was doing? It seems like he was starting to do it at least in in Florida since like Nineteen Ninety Eight <hes> he there were a couple of girls who came came forward that were that were in his circle. Let's say since that time and it continued all the way up until the agreement was practically until the agreement was signed and he would he would get one girl teenager to then try to recruit others as well right he would get his foothold in somehow with he had recruiters and schedulers and they would <hes> go to spas for example around Palm Beach and find these young spa attendants and talk to them about coming. Look we WANNA recruit you <hes> to this wealthy man who wants you to give him massages. That was the code word urge really that they always used and so the the girl would come and you know she's very young. She goes to high school. He would say how you know what your life like he he would <hes> especially prey on girls that were in <hes> unfortunate circumstances <hes> very poor or even on the verge of homelessness and he would say well look. I'll pay for a massage. He would molest them. If they felt uncomfortable he would which they frequently did. He said well that's fine. Alpay you for every girl you bring me so when Palm Beach Police were investigating this it was like you know Leslie was here and she was brought by Mindy and Amanda and then you go to Indian Amanda and they said well you know these two other girls brought got me in these two other girls brought me and it was you know he was doing this two three four times a day. Girls were coming in and out of his mansion two or three four times a day. Yeah different different girls Yes yes in his office that interesting. I mean they had drafted an indictment against Epstein. It was never filed is why was that we know well you know he he hired the best lawyers lawyers that <hes> someone of his means can can hire and he was very shrewd about it. He hired a lawyers that were <hes> politically connected. <hes> you know Mr Casa was an alumnus of the Kirkland L._S.. Law Firm Jay Lefkowitz who was obscene attorney was with that law firm. <hes> Kenneth Starr was with that law firm some of the other lawyers he hired had been former of U._S. prosecutors <hes> in in the Miami Office so they were. They knew you know who you know. They knew a cost us so it was sort of like this you know for the most part of boys club of Lawyers Julia. If you could just stay with US I was wondering <hes> Kia Roberts the former senior assistant district attorney in Kings County. That's Brooklyn in Brooklyn New York also seen N._C. C._N._N.. Legal analyst Paul Callan and served as prosecutor in that very same office pull one thing that struck me about what it costs to sensitive question. He didn't really answer which was why didn't he just keep investigating I if if he had all these victims identified need more evidence why not push ahead Julie said the the F._B._i.. was going farther farther afield yeah. You're absolutely right Anderson. I mean he was according really traffic ticket treatment to a crime that couldn't wind up with forty five years of exposure prison exposure now and all you have to do is look at the indictment that was handed down unsealed in New York on Monday that indictment actually reaches back to the year two thousand and two to Palm Beach to Epstein's mansion in Palm Beach and includes the incidents that were very much under a cost jurisdiction restriction at that time so that means that over a decade later New York prosecutors were able to put together a case against him when a cost of claims no case was possible at that time there were lots of federal crimes that were possible here because telephones were used computers were used airplanes and boats were used with respect to the commission of the crime all of this would have generated federal jurisdiction and yet he walked away and really gave a sweetheart deal in negotiations by the way with Ken Starr who was the lawyer who recruited him to come to Kirkland analysis when a Kosta was working as an attorney in private practice so just a lot of strange looking things went on in this case ever any kind of time limit put on an investigation like this absolutely not so. There's a lot of things that make this situation strange. We could really go on and on about it for hours but what I will say is this there does exist a statute of limitations for certain certain crimes but in this particular instance the the investigation had already reached kind of one of its apex which is that he'd been charged and once that happens and as Julie put so well that one victor is in a two two turns into twelve twelve twelve turns into twenty four you have to collect the evidence do a full and thorough investigation and see where it goes where it puts you and I cannot imagine a judge in the world that with these serious facts would not have allowed you to fully and thoroughly investigate the case and take us to its logical conclusion. Julia secretary cost put a lot of blame on on the career prosecutors in his office for decisions that were made in this case to be clear he was the boss I mean at the end of the day the final say on on what happened here right right and he made a lot of this meeting which <hes> I focused on my story <hes> how he met privately with Jay Lefkowitz <hes> epsteins attorney far from his office in in Miami at a AH Marriott in October and he made much of the fact that well you know there's nothing to that meeting because that deal was signed in September before that meeting ever happened and if you look at the record. Yes there was some papers sign in September but they were hotly negotiating that agreement all the way up to the point that he appeared in court in June of two thousand and eight there was a lot of stuff happening and there's also a letter that it <hes> Jay Lefkowitz wrote back to a cost to after that October meeting saying thank you very much. I'm glad we discussed this and just re reminder here that you're not you agreed not to tell any of the victims about this deal so it was at that meeting. We suspect that he arranged for the secrecy aspect of it which you know that's the biggest question here why if it was such a good deal did he seal the deal so that the nobody could find out what it it was. That's incredible that he's blaming career prosecutors but he's going to the secret meeting Outta town. I mean that that's just seems highly unusual. Doesn't I mean Paul. Is that normal. No it's not at all normal as a matter of fact <hes> virtually all meetings were pleased are being negotiated. Take place at the prosecutor's office. It's very rare that a prosecutor would even go to a defense attorney's office but in this case <hes> he went to a hotel hotel for a breakfast meeting so it was clearly intended to keep the negotiation secret and then he ultimately negotiates a deal where the victims are not going to be notified about anything he gets a very nice. Thank you letter <hes> <hes> from Kirkland and Ellis the defense firm so it's very very unusual Kia. Why wouldn't the victims be notified him? I get why defense wouldn't want the victims to be notified. The why I mean prosecutors working for the people oh absolutely so it's shocking it's inexplicable and is completely unprecedented. You know when I was a homicide prosecutor in Brooklyn one of the most unique and meaningful parts of the trial would conclude with the victim's family family in a homicide situation or the victim itself when the victim was still alive and they were allowed to give something called a victim impact statement and that was talking to the judge and looking the defendant in the eye and saying this is what you did this is how this says affected me and my family that was a hugely important in Cathartic and therapeutic process for victims and the effect that this was denied to the thirty plus young women who have the courage and fortitude to to assist with the investigation is really heartbreaking and cruel Kiam Paul. Thank you Julie Brown in this age. Where reporters are you know under the gun and being called all sorts of things reporting is critical and exposing doing this story and really nobody would be here? <hes> you know it would not the victims were not have a voice at this point or not for you. Thank you very much coming up the latest from the White House on all this including reaction action to Secretary Acosta's performance and later new reporting on the bogus conspiracy theory that was apparently to juicy for right wing media and even the trump administration to actually check the death of D._N._C.. Staffer the claim he was gunned down by assassins working for Hillary Clinton right and and the alternative explanation it appeared to offer in the Russia investigation again. This was a phony story and tonight. We now know where it originated investigative reporter Michael isikoff has the real story he joins shortly remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash C._N._N.. The breaking news tonight fallout from Labor Secretary Casa's explanation of his actions as U._S.. Attorney eleven years ago that gave alleged serial L. Child Molesters Rapists Jeffrey Epstein what we've all now heard described as a sweetheart deal the latest development a brutal statement from the Palm Beach County State Attorney at the time accusing Secretary Kosta today of rewriting history C._N._n.. She Mukasa joins us now. So what are the White House do what they thought of a Costa's performance today Yeah Anderson so far. They feel that <hes> Secretary Kosta handled himself pretty well earlier today. They felt <hes>. I talked to one official earlier this evening. You said you know he offered some information. <hes> to it was defenders out there who are trying to counter this criticism that he was too lenient. <hes> the vice president came forward <hes> late today and said that they were glad to see secretary accost step forward but much of this is driven by the President Anderson who does not appear to be at this point in in the mood to unload the Labor Secretary from what I understand talking to a senior administration official he wanted Secretary Acosta to go out there fighting for his job and the president wanted to fight against these calls for his resignation coming from Democrats up on Capitol. Oh Hill in the words of this senior administration official the president's attitude about those detractors was quote screw them well in terms of his job. Security should a cost to be breathing a sigh of relief tonight because obviously obviously a lot of reviews of things he said I mean there are a lot of things he just left unsaid or just refused to answer or you know <hes> apparently answered incorrectly or or was rewriting history according to the official that's right <hes> that that's what that state prosecutor former state prosecutor saying down in Florida that Secretary Costa's recollection of events <hes> completely wrong but I I will tell you Anderson <hes> we've seen this White House. We've seen this president say in the past about previous officials that he would like to see a various his cabinet members come on <hes> stay on board when they've come under some pretty intense scrutiny but I talked to one senior administration official who said he cautioned against <hes> you know thinking that Secretary Costal remain in that position forever saying that one day you work for president trump trump the next day you don't and that that is a very candidate assessment of how things go inside this administration Anderson as you know <hes> you are useful until you're disposable Anderson Yeah and then then you never worked there initially <hes> to to begin with but that's like on day three. You're they like you. They fire you and they don't even know who you are Jim Acosta. Thanks very much joining us. Now is <hes> Democratic Democratic Congresswoman Katherine Clark who helps oversee funding for the Labor Department she tweeted today and I quote somehow secretary very costly manage fifty three minutes of victim blaming but he couldn't manage to say the two words we need to hear. I resign congresswoman Clark. What's your reaction to the reporting that we just heard that White House officials think Kosta handled himself well today well? It's certainly not surprising coming from this administration that they continue to side Justice Secretary Kosta did with the powerful with the wealthy and not with the vulnerable and the children. We have an outrageous case he's here. We're Secretary Acosta when he was the U._S.. Attorney sided with Jeffrey Epstein and his lawyers who he apparently knew from legal circles and decided to settle this case in secret from the victims giving very unusual settlement agreements like providing blanket immunity for unnamed co-conspirators and and yet there's no apology. Laghi today there's there's nothing that says I regret this. We've just heard blame shifting and evasion and we need to hear those words that there will be responsibility and accountability ability. Do you think if he had come forward and said I. I regret that deal looking back on it. I wish I had pushed harder that would that would reflect well on him. It's certainly not something obviously the President United States likes to hear people apologizing for something. Would that have worked for a cost of better than what he did today well. It certainly would have been a start that shelling. He has some basic human indecency but really what this comes down to is that if we cannot trust secretary of Kosta when he is looking at a draft of a fifty three page indictment showing a sexual ring that involved solved minor girls these were young girls with Co conspirators and Jeffrey Epstein at the very center if he chose them and need this very unusual deal that resulted in the most incredibly luxurious sentence I've ever heard of where you go to state jail for thirteen months and you get a work release six days a week and the fact that he is now our Secretary Secretary of Labor. He is in charge of making sure that children are not exploited in the labor market that they are not trafficked he is in charge of equal pay making sure that workers can be whistle blowers and talk about conditions on the job and he continues to choose the very powerful over victims. So how can we possibly trust him to be a secretary of labor and choose American workers. Do you find it ironic. That cost US said that his message to any other of victims is that they need to come forward given the fact that he works for president routinely attacks derides victims when when they do come forward with allegations of sexual assault and even rape against against him yes. It doesn't seem like a case where there's been a lack of people coming forward. It seems like there's actually huge numbers of people that are huge numbers of people coming forward. We're dark huge numbers of victims that that Secretary Kosta knew about at the time he made the secret sweetheart deal for Jeffrey Epstein and it's it's beyond ironic it is really disgusting and it is frightening to think that he thinks it is appropriate to to look into a camera and tell victims to come forward when we have his actions and we have the actions of president student that we've been faced with his own rape allegations just several weeks ago his defense was that woman is not my type. This is the administration that we are dealing with. This is the actions of this particular secretary. Unfortunately this is a continuation of how this administration expresses misogyny doesn't believe victims of sexual assault and continues to choose choose the very wealthy and rig this system for them to the exclusion of everyone else Katherine Katherine Clark. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thank you Anderson. We have more breaking news straight ahead tonight more provocation in the Persian Gulf by Iran U._S.. Officials are revealing tonight about what's going on. We'll be right back. The right sheets can take your sleep sleep and your style to the next level with Bollandbranch. The upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time that's why they have thousands of five-star reviews and even three U._S.. Presidents Have Boll and branch sheets. Try Them for thirty nights and if you don't love them send them back for a full refund. Go to Bollandbranch DOT com today for fifty dollars off your first set of sheets plus free shipping with Promo Code C._N._N.. To Spelled B. O. L. L. Andbranch DOT COM. That's Bollandbranch Dot Com Promo Code C._N._N.. To breaking news tonight from the Persian Gulf officials tell C._N._n.. That five armed boats operated by Iran's Revolutionary Guard tried unsuccessfully to seize a British oil tankers. It was crossing the Strait of Hormuz now. According to these officials the Iranian to order the tanker to change course and stop Iranian territorial waters a British Navy frigate escorting the tanker trained its debt guns on the Iranians Indians and warned them to back off they did U._S.. Officials Say U._S.. Aircraft was overhead and recorded video of the incident but nothing so far has been released. Zaccaria host afraid Zaccaria G._P._S. joins me right now. So what do you think is going on here freed. What what is Iran's game aiming this trying to accomplish with these aggressive moves the Iranians were trying to retaliate for a similar British move that took place a while ago but the real story hand? It's an is that you have a ratcheting up of tensions on almost every front ever ever since the trump administration has really tighten the noose on Iran that is essentially made it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on international markets. The Iranians have been backed into a corner and are trying to explore how they can use the leverage which they have access through the Persian Gulf their interest in in Lebanon or Yemen or close to <hes> Saudi Arabia and they've been putting up <hes> again of turning up the heat as much as they can the trump administration the situation seems to want this seems to want to add to the pressure but it's not clear to what end there is no negotiating strategy laid out. There is no diplomatic solution. They have put forward so the danger here is an atmosphere of a high tension with both sides not wanting to back down you could easily see some kind of miscalculation and it could lead to some of the situation. I don't think the trump administration wants which is war. The administration has a lot of pressure on Iran but it's not clear what its strategy is. What is the goal? I also want to ask you about the resignation of the British Ambassador to the United States today that happened the cable some cables he'd ridden were leaked in what you call the president quote insecure were and the administration inept and quote dysfunctional. I mean the thing about all this is. This is basically what ambassadors do they and U._S.. Ambassador's do it about leaders of countries. They are based and they send unvarnished opinions. On the country and the leadership in which they're serving that is their job isn't it. I mean of course and you know. Do you think it even to Donald Trump was at any news that people think that he's somewhat insecure ten skin narcissistic and take things personally I mean if that's the case then Donald trump not reading newspapers or watching television <hes> look the important thing is that the the brain buster was actually saying it in a very constructive way he was trying to help minister's <hes> his government figure out how to deal with trump and if you read the you know the more detailed version of the leaks he's saying to them therefore couch everything in personalistic term store tra- make it about him begin by praising being him begin by praising some recent accomplishment he's made and if you look at the ambassador's own dealings his tweets his statements they all followed that he lavishly praise trump so this is a guy doing exactly what his job should be. He he was describing his own internal character assessment of trump as you say exactly as ambassadors should do and if trump were not as thin skin the way he's reacted to this. It's more like some kind of act of vengeance that a Mafia offier boss wants to take rather than a dealer the president who should surely no this is the game of international diplomacy. We don't know what the the British or the American ambassador from London is telling trump about theresa. May you know this is how the game works. Don't take it personally. Get over it. Yeah I mean it's just it's embarrassed. The president's clearly just embarrassed by it and there doesn't like to be embarrassed and is therefore just lashing out even mm though this is something you know kind of got lost in all this drama are are the words the actual words that the ambassador used. It's something that our closest allies uses the words inept and dysfunctional in describing the this <hes> this White House I mean it's not unusual. What's what's extraordinary of course is the reaction of the trump administration and Donald trump has completely confirmed everything the ambassador said about the president of the administration yeah yeah for appreciate it freed Zaccaria? Thanks very much next. I'm going to talk with a reporter who unmasked the culprit behind this seth rich conspiracy the most widely circulated and widely debunked theory about Russian interference in the election. Hi everyone it's poppy harlow in this week's episode of boss files and exclusive interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai his remarkable story growing up in India with little access to technology -nology to landing the top job at Google job. He'd never raised his hand for for the first time Google response to news of a possible anti-trust investigation of the company and lawmakers calls to break up big tax plus plus his pledge to do more to curb the spread of disinformation and he on Youtube. We sat down with him at Google Data Center in Pryor Oklahoma or the company is adding hundreds of jobs as it invests across the Midwest subscribe to boss files today. Listen to our exclusive interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai just a week before Robert Muller testifies before Congress. A new report has named the culprit of a widely discredited conspiracy conspiracy theory about who hacked the D._N._C. During the two thousand sixteen election now the original theory which was peddled by the far-right said it wasn't rush at all rather a d._N._C.. Staffer named seth rich had leaked the emails and that assassins working for Hillary Clinton had murdered him. I'm rich was killed three years ago tonight and what was most likely a robbery. The facts didn't prevent personalities on Fox News even the president's current lawyer Jaysekulow from pushing the theory or secular back in two thousand seventeen. It sure doesn't look like a robbery. It looks like a murder and I haven't seen the files. You haven't seen the files but there's one thing this undercuts. I think is this. I think this whole Russia argument Sean is such a sucker for reality well. The reality was that the theory floors the conspiracy theory flourish. Here's a man holding a sign peddling conspiracy to rally for President Trump in Tampa Florida in July of last year until now we didn't know where the conspiracy theory actually originated now we do thanks to Yahoo Yahu News and a new six part podcast series with Michael ISIKOFF chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo News broke the story so Michael. This is fascinating reporting on your part just explain to us how this whole conspiracy theory actually started yeah. It is a fascinating fascinating story. It's sort of an archaeological dig into these conspiracy theories which got so much traction in two thousand sixteen seventeen and even to till today I and what it turns out is <hes> Seth Rich was killed on July tenth two thousand sixteen. He was walking home in the early hours of Sunday morning. <hes> after night drinking at a local bar and with the cops concluded is <hes> very early on that this look like a botched robbery there had been a string of robberies in that in the neighborhood where he lived in the weeks before his death and seth rich resisted his assailants <hes> they apparently panicked and shot him in the back three days later on an obscure website called. What does it mean dot com? They report that in fact seth rich was on his way to talk to the F._B._i.. To reveal corruption option about the Clintons when he was gunned down by a squad of assassins working for Hillary Clinton the prosecutor in charge of the case at the time <hes> Deborah signs talked to us for the first time for this podcast cast and she talked about how frustrated she was about these wild conspiracy theories relating to her case so she asked the U._S.. Intelligence community to help her figure it out. Where are these theories coming from and what she she wants what she got back? She says floored her. It turned out that the Russian S._V._R.. That their version of the CIA the Foreign Intelligence Service had circulated a bulletin <hes> disguise to read as a real intelligence report making those exact same claims about seth rich that was in that what does it mean dot Com story about the squad of assassins working for Hillary Clinton and from there it took off it migrated into these alright sites and chat rooms all on Reddit four Chan and within a few weeks Roger Stone. The president's longtime political adviser picked. Did Up tweeted a picture of seth rich and said another dead body in the Clintons wake and picked up by Fox News of folks on yeah on the Fundus exactly the same day that Roger Stone tweeted that Julian assange gave an interview to Dutch television reporter in which he hinted that seth rich was his source for these for the D._N._C.. Emails <hes> he posted posted a wikileaks announced a twenty thousand dollar reward for information about seth riches murder and eventually this made it all the way up to the trump White House in the podcast we reveal text messages from Steve Bannon then White House senior counselor encouraging a C._B._S.. <hes> sixty minutes producer to go chase the story calling it a huge story. It was a contract kill. Obviously that was in March two thousand seventeen and then in May of the two thousand seventeen just as the Russia story is blowing up Fox News picks it up and shouts it to the rooftops. I mean it's incredible. What you're describing really is a classic disinformation campaign and out of the what was formerly the K._G._B.'s textbook and exactly the fact that it got such such widespread amplification through U._S. folks in America alright stuff and Fox News? That's incredible absolutely look there is a there's a phrase for what the Soviets used to do in the Cold War active measures. It's a disinformation operation which in which you the plant phony stories or conspiracy memes <hes> into far media and then hope that they will migrate and and and and take off that's exactly what this was. This was a clear Russian disinformation operation operation and I should point out that it wasn't just those S._v._R.. Bulletins as we reveal the Internet research agency that troll farm in Saint Petersburg that was central to the Russian meddling interference manipulation of social media during the two thousand sixteen election picked up the seth rich case they tweeted and re tweeted about it more than two thousand times under phony accounts the skies as Americans such as you know ten underscore G._O._p.. Like pretending pretending to be the Tennessee Republican Party and that it was constantly tweeting about seth rich keeping the story alive in the social media bloodstream. I mean you would think the the person holding up that sign that it was on Tampa or the people doing this on T._v.. If they had decency they would apologize for essentially doing the bidding of Russian intelligence by pushing this this theory which had no evidence at all. Oh no no evidence whatsoever there was not you know the claims were that there was a <hes> the F. B.. I. Had on Seth Riches Laptop had found communications with wikileaks complete nonsense there. It was nothing to back that up but you know the real emotional core of the story is just what just what a gut how gut wrenching this was for the rich family <hes> to see their sons you know reputation Asian being sullied suggesting he was the leaker and a thief who portrayed as D._N._C. Colleagues Mary rich the mother of Seth Rich One of those we interviewed for this podcast talks about how says at one point this was like losing and my son all over again and any any progress on the investigation into what they believe is Robert. Well what we've learned is that it has been transferred to <hes> the major case slash cold case squad with a new detective and a new prosecutor who's now in charge of the case <hes> we have not seen any sign of progress in the last three years <hes> no no suspects have been identified. No arrests have been made <hes> DENVER signs. The former prosecutor says the cops and she were always convinced related to <hes> the string of robberies armed robberies in the neighborhood much much of it linked to drug dealing activity in a nearby housing project. <hes> Joel Rich says that he's talked to the deck detective and Prosecutor recently and they've told them that they are still actively investigating they talk talk about the case every day and so you know <hes> we will see whether they can make that breakdown <hes> Michael isikoff Yahoo News. That's where people can find podcast on Yahoo News Right Michael yes or on apple podcast acids called conspiracy land. You can download it anywhere. Wherever you get your podcasts Michael Scott thanks very much just ahead of serious storm hitting New Orleans could become a hurricane flash flooding has already hit some neighborhoods? We'll love details on that very latest. As we continue in a moment will have the latest on flooding in New Orleans but first Chris joins US coming up on Komo prime time Chris would he got so here the names I have tonight I have have Klobuchar. I have Coochie neely I have Ranga I have uber and I have urban and if you look at them the way I listed them. Those are waves of immigrants that came into this country and I'm going to be talking to them all tonight about the waves of immigrants. We're dealing with now and still doing poorly. What does each perspective? Nobody wants to be our president. What would she do Cuccia Elliot's in charge of caring for these people now for this administration? What does he see? We're going to do all of that and we're going to do the next layer on Epstein the way I'm looking at it tonight. Coupe is you gotta see this story as a human trafficking story not just about the rich and the powerful because human trafficking. I did a documentary on it here for Sister Network H. L. N.. 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Colin Kaepernick and Accepting the Message But Not The Messenger

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Colin Kaepernick and Accepting the Message But Not The Messenger

"Welcome to the real real podcast where we share our reality it perspectives was going on the world of Pop Culture Sports Relationships Society and much much more all while keeping it real and getting into the Shit's as we like to say, I'm Jeff Brooks the renaissance man this Roy big easy by headed. Ivana Miyama someone and they called me Ta. But my mom calls me trevor. What we got going on today FELLAS. kawais onto. Way. Onto away, my brother's if you can't tell 'em an A. Mosa perved mood, the battle for La we'll have to wait into twenty twenty one again and has always been for the last fifty years. There's only one premier Los Angeles Basketball Team and that is your Los Angeles Lakers more than you can say about the Knicks but we're not gonNA talk about old episode stuff. Sam How you feeling this week my friend feel better until you mentioned the knicks why you always gotTa. Troll the next like, yes the Knicks has been terrible for twenty years. We get it. I. Don't know what fixes that well, whatever free right rent-free Ima-. Exact. I've been in a little bit of Funk in tiredness. I think that's just the fall blues in, but you know I just heard the uplift in. Negro. Spiritual Voice that is Jeff Brooks on the Mike to open show. So catching my second wind some ready to kind of get back out there and hit the field hit the field then okay. Speaking of in the field we just started a new season. Of the National Football League, this is supposed to be America's sport that'd be saying is still the case I? Think we would have to ask those people who were booing inaugural game the opening night when it was the Kansas City chiefs playing the Houston. Texans. Players were just right before the game started were locking arms for unity maybe up to speed. So who are the two teams? Now they were the Kansas City chiefs in the Houston Texans I think I heard that the Kansas City chiefs won the super bowl last season but I wouldn't know because I hadn't watched football on the last four years. So you got some pretty cool quarterback stat play for both teams. And tried to I guess do some type of phony unity ceremony. Yeah. They certainly did you know and apparently America wasn't ready for that and the whatever fifteen thousand fans or whatever win stadium because apparently can't city allows fans and stadiums right now there's a lot of turn a pandemic were booing unity. That's where we are in America right now can't say I'm surprised you know there's a lot of people that. Talk a good game with the black squares on instagram and all of that. But when it comes down to it than it really not about that life. So profit of course. Yeah and I think it's just indicative of the Fan Base I think Roger Goodell and powers that be dude is a long time ago Wendy shows to not stand Colin Kaepernick deep down inside they knew what he was doing was right and as you see him doing. His media tour. Now he's saying that you know he probably should talk to Kapernick He wished he could have talked to capture nick that cabinet was right all along and I would probably say that cadel probably felt that way for a long time and he actually did understand any got it. If he didn't get it back then he probably got him when he spoke with Jay Z. but what he understands it gets more anything else is. These and what the expect and what side of the coin going to they're going to stand on it. Sad See. But like Trevor said, it's certainly not surprising. Yeah. Because even the other side of that is you know fans are booing and immediately they transitioned from like a boot to like their Tomahawk Chalk Chop, which is. is also trying to move away from things like the redskins unlike being offensive toward native Americans and the fan bases are like now we don't give a fuck about that either. Right. So it kind of shows you like how divided we are in different parts of the country because ultimately people to do what they wanna do and what they wanna do is watch their sports and act the fool the way they want to and not be told that what they're doing is wrong yeah it. Just, goes to show I. Mean I don't even think that you can get fifteen thousand people to Gather Stadium and New Jersey or in Los Angeles like I just don't know for sure that the people who live in dis environments on coastal states would he be cared to be in that close proximity to fellow jet fans, giant fans, rams, fans, raiders, fans, and not they're in big now. But I just think that they probably would avoid that altogether and then you just have A. Different mindset. A totally different coacher in middle America just goes to show how big this country is and just how diverse away of thinking is, and there really is to countries. There's a matter country and there's everybody else. Do we think that's part of the reason that Kapernick still hasn't gotten a job even though you know as you saw, you know goodell doing his press tour and who Roger Goodell is like the Commissioner of the NFL for for those who don't know but you know. He's going out press tour definitely saying that Colin was right. But one is a team going to like stop sign this guy because ultimately unfortunately, it has been for years and maybe it might be too long. You might be too much of a gap in between when Colin last played but there's roughly about one hundred quarterback jobs in the NFL thirty two of which are starting, and then there's usually about two backups on the team captain, it can't be a backup anywhere not willing to. Take that bullet while we think that he just hasn't gotten the opportunity feel like that that trial yet earlier, this year was was probably his best shot thinking pragmatically right now I'd say if I'm an owner regardless of the fact that the capital deserves a spot in the league I. Don't know that I'd be rushing sign him mainly because you know he's not GonNa start at this point right and there's there's no training camp. So there's no time to kind of get them acclimated to your system. So you're to bring him onto the team opened up all these questions kind of bring in this media. Attention for guy that might be third or second string best when your team right and if you don't have a quarterback this fragile, what's the purpose of having an insurance policy that's only going to bring more I don't want to say a headache or drama Kinda bring more a needed attention to your team. Well, that's always been the fallback right the unwanted attention but I think if you're speaking about attention, now would probably be the time because you don't really have as much media or as much fans an easy areas but I'll just go and say it's a wrap cap it's been four years I mean. Who has been a mobile quarterback there's been an influx of mobile quarterbacks in the League. So one would say that, okay, he fit right in but his uniqueness is no longer a rarity anymore you got a whole bunch of quarterbacks that can do McCallum capper nick did when he was in his prime and you probably do a better than what he did and that. Also, just goes to their built in excuse to whereas Oh cap even that good. He had a bad last season. Now you have the fact that his last season in the League wasn't his best number. Wise. Even though he actually did a pretty decent job considering he had no weapons and had a pretty crappy line and just had overall bad team at that point did. You add four years in an activity into also just a changing way. I would imagine Sam. You're probably better at this because you still watch no judgment here as far as the style of play and if that's conducive to capture nick. So even with a progressive organization like the seahawks and you got coaches like Carol, winning wearing social justice shirts and racism shirts if. He hasn't been invited to a camp at this point. I can't see it happening and at this point to I would just say cap probably. Okay. With that he's still selling a lot of jerseys probably going to sell a whole bunch of sneakers and his legacy cemented. He had a very good career hall of fame pace numbers when he was in the league he won. Even with him not playing on a field again, and even if he does play at this point I, think it probably would water down what he actually stood for work. The fact that he can actually say that, yeah, I was too bad ass for the NFL I was so bad it that they blackballed me even when they were talking about all this end racism social justice advocacy not since that they were talking I think he's probably in his best interest at they continue to just be big really are we? Think that was basically everything that's happening. You know with the NFL spending or donating money towards social justice causes like do we all that stuff is just window dressing I think that they definitely realized error as at the end of the day there sports league, and for all of the publicity statements and charitable organizations in donations if they're making like, there's only so much you're going to be able to do because in the day what's your business is run on is a game, right? So I don't know and that. In on that same line like signing capper Nick. At this point to me is just kind of a publicity stunt. If you know he's not gonNA play. You're just signing him to your roster to say that you sign them to your roster and at the end of the day, how meaningful is that Matt Jeff to your point like it almost taints his his mission if he does get signed and they do put him on the field and he underperforms right like if he doesn't deliver after all of this fighting. Off. All of these kinds of like statements in videos, he's put out on twitter whatever if he actually gets signed comes back on the team is put on the field and stinks it up those haters in the trump lovers are going to have a field day and we will never hear the end of it. So I don't know if the juice is really worth. The squeeze in instance does it really take its legacy and this is more a question for you. Jeff Khas Muhammad Ali did lose some fights and Ultimately. He lost a major fight coming back from retirement when he fought Joe Frazier Right. But was that Ali's first comeback fight or were there if to fight before that but ultimately my point is, did it take Ali's legacy because I got point he was in a weird place. It was the same kind of thing where it was a very divided. America. Yet a a man who didn't want to fight for his country and you had you know a group of people who were. Like, but it doesn't make sense to go die somewhere else right jeff what do you think of in that early comparison? Well, that's definitely like to run questioned because and I say this quite often are social media I. Think we fall victim to what? I call revisionist history when Dr King was assassinated back in nineteen sixty eight Gallup did a poll in he was the most hated man in America fast forward a few years later, the same narrative of Bahamas outspoken audacious Negro. who had a nerve detail right America how he felt door does times right the already don't like it right now many people imagine how was back in fresh off the civil rights era. So you had this guy speaking out against a war that even when he was speaking out about it was even totally unpopular to way that we'd like to believe it was it definitely tasted his legacy den, but it was his legacy is something that has to be revisited every so many years. Toward a time. Yeah. You know people were definitely laughing at Ali. It wasn't a good look that he lost a frazier it people kind of laugh at him and you know it kind of bird proved the point of the people who are in opposition to him. But when he had a chance to fight again when title again, it certainly helped I don't think that we're as a patient now I think ending to with football versus boxing is that you might go three or four months. Without having actual fight maybe you might have to fights a year. That's how it is right now I think in those days might have been a little bit more often than that. So imagine cabinet gets them to feel it just because he's out of practice at out a plan for four years for the first four games he's rusty today he will only get those four games. He's got four games to really stink it up so. That to what I said originally, what Trevor said I think that it probably would be at his best interest for a team not to sign him. It's not a good look go to team and it's not a good look for him to lose lose situation and who really thinks that he would be as good as he was what a new system with a new team most likely a was probably back in two thousand, fifteen madden. Better, Cam Newton apparently, cameras isn't exactly lighten it up, but I still haven't cracked open and by the way I agree with Jeff on that point I think the other part of that that like gets lost. It's almost an unfair comparison because of what boxing is especially heavyweight boxing at that time like in shallow to ESPN for early in the pandemic they're put. On all the old Ali fights. So that was the first time I had actually watched ali-frazier and I remember watching that fight a few months ago and being like Oh shit like Joe Frazier was good. But like if you've only heard the stories and seeing the movies, it's always like Ali Kinda poke fun at Frazier and you think a frazier as do who? Was the B side, but like he could fight is ass off and like legitimately beat. Ali, wasn't even like, Oh, well, Ali was arrested like no frazier like whooped his ass that fight and I barely got out I believe he broke his jaw he and the fact is that like, yes, he was rusty but like even if he wasn't Russi, he might have took that out. But the thing that was redeeming for Ali in that situation is like Jeff said, you have a couple months where you can kind of get a rematch come back only fighting a few times a year. So you have a chance to redeem yourself whereas in football every week. So like, Oh, you bad this week you bad next week he week after that s all it takes with somebody completely right you off forever. So yeah, I'm just doubling down on saying it may be better for calendar Colorado off into the sunset get his show popular with Netflix's David Duval. Way And all the other things that he's got going on I. Know You just put us more jerseys with Nike he's got a lot going on doing great for the people so there's no need to kind of come off. That course just to say that you got another crack at the NFL let me ask you guys a question. What's your opinion about capital style as far as chooses to address the media alley choose to stay silent. I for one Emba Fan of how he conducts himself I think that he knows his role. He knows what's at stake. He knows how to use as leverage. There's probably more articulate people end Elaine that he's operating again. So he does ever want to misquote himself or a mistake his words. There's people that we know that think that he's a coward because he doesn't. Speak up you know and actually speak out about certain things. Cottages does an occasional tweed or occasionally instagram post and come out with very strongly charged words every so many months. So what do you guys think about Colin Kaepernick and the way he's conducted itself not just recently but throughout the course of this four year, Corentin from the NFL I think you hit the nail on the head I think that he knows that he's probably not articulate enough to carry the conversation in that way and I do think that when he was in his last season kind of addressing these things. On a much smaller scale with the local media in in San. Francisco. He had a few missteps you know rocking shirt that said Pigs Keke something referring to Fidel Castro one day like there were things that he was kind of saying that could be seen as offensive to other groups and I think because of that, he was like Oh shit like maybe I need to chill out. It's ultimately what you like from your Ad Fleet right? Because I know going back to like the beginning of the pandemic when we were watching Michael Jordan in the last dance, right like talk. About Michael Jordan's lack of I won't say political awareness his lack of being able to take a stand even though there were certain things that now the peers that did bother Michael Jordan, and now he's putting money towards because he wants to be that kind of athlete right or that kind of person slash owner billionaire all that but I do think that with capper Nick specifically I think he knew he wasn't well versed enough to tackle these kinds of conversations and because of that, he's kind of shied away from having the big conversation and uses his people around him wisely so. In other words, Colin Kaepernick is the Anti Wes. Everyone's anti kind of these days I would hope. So at least. But Kanye West is somebody who is an I don't want to speak about Kanye West too long but he does say some pretty spot on things but it's so impulsive but it's not Polish that you could totally lose the point with absurdity of somebody who thinks that he says and I think that capital like Sam. Said I think he has a very strong team around him that make sure that his message is extremely intentional and it can't be taken out of context. Yes. Because otherwise you won't be pissing on Grammy's right of you know we don't want to go too far in the Kanye West but yes, and unfortunately Kanye someone who just practices poor impulse control. And you're absolutely right conde will say some things that you like that part might make sense. So that part is pretty spot on it could bring true. But unfortunately, like the way what she delivers it and the the way in what you might like follow that up with his actions make it so laughable that you're like, I can't really subscribe to the things that you're saying doing. So I think Colin has a much better team around him. Then Kanye does but also I don't know if it's safe to say I would say I would bet that Colin isn't mentally ill so whereas kind yeah like is enough about man I think Barack said it best about kind of Jackass, but on a jar semi similar brighter note this past week we saw Smidgen of Justice Kinda come through in kind of some of the stuff that collins been fighting for right and kind of just trying to have accountability while we have still yet to arrest the killers of Brianna Taylor, the police departments out there took what what I saw as a big step and kind of taking at least a small amount of accountability in reaching a settlement with the. Family Brianna Taylor. So what are you guys thoughts on that twelve million dollar check that they signed over rather that tax payers in that city just signed over to kind of do their best set at making amends how much twelve million dollars for one is twelve million dollars a lot of money is that enough money for generational wealth? That's just my question know is, is it substantial issues quite intriguing that hasn't been any admitting of wrongdoing, but yet the same city. Could write a check for twelve million dollars. Personally I would love a twelve million dollar check but not at the expense of anyone that I care deeply about. So I think that just no one's really talking about it. But I think the price point is not enough I. Think there is a lot more money that could have gone to the family and to. It's a slap in the face now, I would argue that this probably helps the cause a lot more when it comes down to pursuing any other charges against the officers and whatnot because with this check or with this payout, you're not paying out anybody if you're not guilty or at least that's the mentality you ask people who observe the OJ Simpson Trial and OJ Simpson was found not guilty fordham murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald, Goldman but few years. Later, he was sued civil court shoutout to my old media law professor Paul Callan who represented the Goldman family ensuing Oj Simpson. Day were entitled to date actually got and here's the thing they got thirty three million dollars back in the mid to early nineties. For the murder of their son ultimately I think it just further validate what the Taylor family and advocates plan to pursue. What's the point of writing out a check? There's nothing that was done. Wrong. I agree with that. This is you know they wrote a check to try to keep people quiet like this is what that feels like and ultimately like in what has. been talked about since then the municipality has also put in some provisions around I can being able to provide like social workers to support during like some criminal incidents. Divisions like how the warrants will look like and you know how the chain of command for for warrants with the flexible. There are some things that can be viewed as a positive however again, you must be doing this because you know someone did something wrong but no one's actually admitting that they did anything wrong and that's the problem we have here is. Ultimately, the the officers who committed this murder still work there still like right now like his stop you at a traffic light can knock on your doors well, do all these things and if that's not terrifying, the people I don't know what is I think one of them got fired or at least suspended like one of the detective or the main guy. Poetry. But at least one, my nose is not active anymore at my favorites words Whoopie freaking do I was just looking a little further? So it turns out to to put twelve million in perspective. It's not the largest settlement. So even like actually earlier, this year kind of the Appeals Court in Baltimore County actually overturned verdict and that kind of resulted in eight thirty, eight, million dollar award. Going to the family of corn gains a twenty three year old woman who shot and killed by county police in twenty sixteen. What makes this case? Obviously that's a big big Delta between those two numbers as I just said that killing happened in two thousand sixteen. So you're talking about four years later that family kinda finally going through the justice system and getting that payout that was due. To them, and this case we're talking like Brianna got shot and what March February march thirteen belief. Yes. So we're talking six months and they're writing the check. So that's I. Think what? What you Kinda have to factor in and knowing that police departments historically don't want admit any wrongdoing and that's why they wrote that check but the fact that they did act quickly and did so. Right a sizable check, and then agreed to make some changes in how they kind of go about police and I think that's like suggests point it's not going to bring her back and it's not. It's not enough. If I were of that family, I would have respect for how they handled that part of it like obviously there's there's a lot of mishaps and kind of open wounds and just. kind of handling and the actual prosecution of those officers. But are the fact that they've made this step this fast to kind of make sure that that family was taken care of. To accept and acknowledge as okay. Well, this is a step in the right direction. Generally, what happens is if you rush in negotiation, you wind the overpaying. So this speedy resolution and it certainly feels like they've underpaid right and use that scenario a know Jefferson reference another scenario where you know that specific police department paid more for doing similar right so I don't necessarily agree with that. Now again, twelve million dollars, forty, million dollars, one, hundred, million dollars does not bring back your relative and of course. Like that part is always going to be the thing that hurts and it's going to be hard to kind of move past. But what you want is for you to be like properly compensated if anything one thing that should not be overlooked is outside of the murder of Brianna. Taylor and our sleep as been the concerted effort and you know I don't want to speak a great detail because obviously I don't have the faction in front of me right now but there's been an intentional smear campaign. To stain the reputation of Briana sailor, their spin deals that have been attempted to be cut with ex-boyfriends looking to I, guess indict her implicate her in some type of drug ring. There's been all different types of things being said about her alleged involvement and what she wasn't doing ballistics reports might have shown that she may have been killed by her boyfriend. John. Fire there's just so much misinformation being put out there by the prosecution by the Police Department to Muddy the. Waters. To make a pale like this, even more impossible to to pay out. So I think that the Taylor family probably should pursue a libel and slander lawsuit after it's all said and done if that's possible, I would not let up if I were the Taylor family. Now, one thing that sand did mentioned that I was going to bring up in another example regards to how justice plays out in this country in respect to black and Brown people versus mainstream American Dino. White Americans or a white person's in, and this is actually goes to some one who I believe wasn't maybe may have been in American she was from Australia. It was a young woman by the name of Justin Damon who was gunned down by a Minneapolis police officer. The police officer was a black police officer I. believe he was of Somali, on the set in Minnesota has a pretty heavy Somali presence allegedly she approached a car in a a frantic matter and the officer Kilter, the EP burder her and I it was ruled. that he reacted inappropriately probably no different than many other officers who would not been fired and had been let off the hook for for killing black people but I digress either way Muhammad nor was on promptly arrested he was tried he was convicted but not only that the family of just seeing they received a pretty sizable payout you wanNA. Know How much deputy was four? It was born twelve million dollars. It was actually twenty million dollars and in respect to Trevor's point about the timeframe I can't even tell you the amount of speed that this officer was erected trial convicted, and at this pale happened probably happened all within twelve months of the payout. And the arrest conviction of this officer now had the same result had happened if mom nor was say Bradley, Stevens. Charlotte to the Celtics Bradley Stevens Lead Officer Rally Stevens. In just team was a Juanita Jackson I. Just can't see it happening that way and the reality of justice works and it is similar to Matthew mcconaughey as. Closing deposition closing statement and a time to kill where they literally have I believe is a majority white jury and the Samuel Jackson Character's daughter is. Raped and new related by these white gentlemen white men who were murdered by Samuel L. Jackson and disclosing point that Matthew mcconaughey had and to the jewelry was now imagine if the girl was white and then you just see the shocking like oh So I think that sometimes it has to be done for the country to Kinda see just like a substantial payout might be but a list and I pray and wish to best for Briana Taylor's family shout out to the attorneys that made this happen I note he worked very hard for this but in my opinion is just Way Too little, and it should have never happened and we still need to arrest the cops that murder Brianna Taylor. Let me put it this way. When you saw the headline or the news that they had racist settlement where you happy offended disappointed. When you saw that news, what emotions came over you at that moment, I was surprised when I seen it. Was Not expecting that I didn't even know that I was being pursued. It seemed like he. Did a pretty good job working at behind the scenes of course I'm happy but I'm not overjoyed that makes sense. You know it's just like it's like winning a boxing match by majority decision it's not a second round knockout is anything spectacular it's like, okay we'll take the win I was shocked because ultimately like I think we all thought that there would be a point where there will be some Kinda like. Wrongful death kind of loss or something like that happening and this kind of came out of the blue which means that, yes all these negotiations were happening and yeah, no one was privy to I think that it's a step in the right direction. It's still not where you want to be but I think that unfortunately, what what needs to happen is like people need to pay right and people need to understand like. Black lives matter right like and now you're GONNA have to pay in this way. Right? But yeah, I guess it's hard to say you feel happy about this because the grand context of what actually happened. But I think we're moving in a direction where like you know these things no longer swept under the rug in like these stories are just like out there for the public to consume and understand like although we would want more where police are saying you know and meeting some wrongdoing. This is. Similar to that. Feels like that but we still need the other part. We still need some arrest them. We still need people to go to jail for murdering someone. To clarify. In from. What I read I I do believe this was a settlement coming off of a wrongful death lawsuit. So they kind of had and they might be working that behind the scenes or like just so much other news kind of dive through the fact that this was kinda going out just in reach atop the headlines. But yeah, for me, it was Kinda the same like. Not Overjoyed but I was. Like I was happy to see it in its maybe it's not enough, but it's something and I don't know if we've been so conditioned to see nothing happened that we are complacent with like settling for a settlement that may not be as much as could have been had by that family but that reminds me that now it's been three months. Now for George Floyd I don't think we've heard anything on that side. If you look at it that way it's like there's so many of these cases in moments instances in lives that were still fighting for justice for so like a kind of even if it wasn't enough for as much as that family could have received, it's a glimmer of hope to say that like a slight bit of change might be coming in that this is happening and be recognized at the speed that happened. The other side of that argument when we come to the George, Floyd thing is that those officers who arrested right so there will be a criminal trial. Because of that, you might wait out the results of a criminal trial and then you get to the actual civil lawsuit over here. It's almost like we know that the officers won't be arrested. So let's just settle this and get this out of the public eye I could be totally wrong and off base by that but that's certainly would have feels like. Speaking of the journey to justice man, we're recording this on the data. We got some great news in a loss of of one of the great ones on the highest courts in this country. So definitely want to pay our respects and give a shout out to the legend. G. It's a sad day in this country said they for the world to lose someone who's greatest her hopefully people do the right thing out there and vote this November. We can appoint someone to that seat who is hopefully equally as strong and progressive as as her I think voting his upcoming election is pivotal. We have no choice early I understand that many Americans are not in love with Joe. Biden. He's centuries that he's got it wrong on many issues, but he's also right on many issues as to especially when it comes down to a domestic violence and things of that nature speaking of which this is, what's at stake you can in your honest opinion believe in you know and I'm not trying to demonize anybody west if political views but if you believe in your heart of hearts. That Joe Biden N. Donald Trump or the same fine. You can have a lease acknowledged that the courts already or hanging in the balance are already tilted grossly to one side, and if you really want a true unchecked presidency with no checks and balances Lead trump get another election under his belt and you're going to see him rule without any type of impunity. RPG held on fought the way she thought she was getting chemotherapy treatments and going to the gym right after so she could try to equipped her body enough to sustain. The last few months hopefully of this presidency unfortunately, she lost her battle she fought a good fight. An honor for fight? The least we can do is spend a day and for most of us in probably will only take about an hour to beat up vote but take yourself to the polls get up in boat if you got to mail it in mail it in, make sure it gets to the ballot box your local City Hall wherever they're holding. This is an election and said. This is the most consequential election that we've ever had in the generation recipes RPG. I know the women of this world are going to miss you and all freedom freedom-loving people are going to miss. You was well job well, done good job warrior. You Know Jeff is always a tough act to follow. Absolutely this is going to be probably the biggest election in the next fifty years guys this NBA tonight the last election changed the way we live when the middle of pandemic literally the. Way You live the way you interact with people all those things have changed. Right we have to be smart about our decisions definitely rest and power to Ruth Bader Ginsburg for those who you know we we haven't actually set her name's I want to make sure that we say her name. This is going to be you and the fear now actually that before trump enters term that he will try to get another supreme justice right like and maybe the window is too short and obviously. He's focused on just his campaign, his reelection, and that's that's where his energy is. The would we be shocked certainly wouldn't right. So this is major and we have to be to is, let's go out there and vote for places that are allowed to vote by mail than vote by mail. Some states are allowing early voting low leave your house now and go vote right next Jeff said. It might take an hour, right. So go ahead and do that and shot out to like the NBA who decided to make other arenas poll voting stations. So listen there somewhere that's relatively close to you will. You can go out and vote. 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082919 Part 1

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I really you think you're gonna love it the whole thing about sas complaining about about her roommate. We know that that's just a normal annoyance kind of thing for her roommate to ask questions during t._v. Shows and movies. She doesn't sh- not really complaining that she has a bad roommate. It's just a way to start this little piece of radio. Where you say <hes> <hes> sas you. Don't have it so bad <hes> at least and then you tell what the worst roommate thing you've ever had done to you is <hes> this is i think one of my favorites that has been sent into the d._m.'s. Don't worry sas at least your roommate doesn't isn't <hes> skype relations with her boyfriend. In the middle of the living room she wouldn't go into her room and shut the door. So if i came home and she was skyping she'd wave at me to duck down an army crawl to my room and yes i would army crawl like an idiot because i didn't want to kill the vibes susannah in the living room. Wow yeah you're right. At least she does not do that. Ah anonymous flu season more welcome to the t._j. Show makes us feel good roommate. Hey morning out <hes> so i was just going to say it's okay. That's at least your roommate didn't have her boyfriend. He accused of sleeping with walk you out of her apartment because he started living there and then when i got into my apartment saw that he had packed up literally all of my saying neatly so i got that wasn't that bad but hadn't made this patch and ready to go. Ooh ooh boyfriend. Had you packed up and ready to go 'cause he was <hes> well we we. We actually got along and her boyfriend like he. They started the dating he started saying they're a lot and then over time he just kind of started fighting there. He was there and i didn't make a big deal out of it because me and him got along along really well actually around wishy right. Now we never we never did anything we just got along. We would stay up late and mitch hedberg and i thought oh man hedberg. He's awesome. God okay well. Thank you very much all right. Thank you know choruses. Don't feel bad ass. At least your roommate didn't throw thumb tacks all over the living room floor floor when you used her mug ask. Are you using my mug. Thumb toys. Hud is dirty when you wake up sleepy in the morning and you're trying to find your mug. You're gonna get a surprise. Don't worry sas at least your roommate didn't make chore chart that you had to every time you did a chore and when you didn't do said chores they would set you got punished. My boyfriend at the time wasn't allowed to come. Stay at the house for almost four months. That's because of who are roommates who allows your who tells your roommate okay. I'll abide by the chore chart and like my boyfriend come over because i didn't do my chores. Sorry your band. I didn't vacuum like nolet. There's one that has been sent in the in the d._m.'s that is hilarious yet very very disgusting so much so that we're going to have to wait in and do it on more show after the show today when when we don't have to follow f._c._c. rules and in that kind of thing is hilarious so we do more show after the show every day at ten thirty eastern nine thirty central on our app. It's a it's free. Thanks to papa john's. They pay for all of it so you don't have to by the way i think that's their new <hes> advertising smuggling they pay for it so you don't have good <hes> so yeah we'll do that today. You can also get it on a podcast by my noon everyday. If you don't get it live oh and how it is don't worry asked when i was leaving college. I told my roommate that he needed to get his food out of the freezer because we intend living the power out. I moved out. He never came to get stuff. Power goes out two weeks later. He left his fish rush in the tank and all his stuff in the freezer. We now fifteen hundred dollars for a fridge and new paint because they couldn't get the smell out screw that guy. Oh how taste brigands fast rob connected funny on this is the t._j. Show would you be offended by hi. This roommates thing we talked about yesterday with you and your roommate people saying how you don't have a bad at all girl said <hes> don't feel bad pass. My roommate was secretly hooker. I thought she was just going on. A lot of different. Dates turns out. They were helping pay my rent. I didn't find out until one day. She asked me to go to lunch with her and a guy showed. We've turned out to be appear but they both told me. I was cute in one of them if i wanted to join the business oh is that flattering at all that they thought you were cute enough to be a part of the business yeah. It's i guess what business though there's so many different types of that business being a hooker yeah. That's what i don't or not i know is it a streetwalker is it a <hes> you know yeah is the is the pimp in dropping her off in front of a bunch of cardboard boxes to work every a day or do they have a you know nice little setup based on the way she described it. I it seems like it's going to date. They were one on one pre pre set yet like you know like an escort service. Yes that probably <hes> because i mean saying you know you're cute enough to be a streetwalker her. I mean that's not right depends on how they say yeah. There are things like that though that you that from guys and men and women the you're not there offers. You're not gonna take anybody up on yet. You know the fact. They thought you were getting afford it flattering. Thank you for asking asking but no way in hell. She had a choice like if somebody said hey rigorous. You know you thought about posing you know <hes> posing nude for something in your like <hes> no but you know what the fact that you think. I look good enough to do that. I appreciate that thanks. I have as a matter of fact not going to. I do but i appreciate it. It's way better than somebody telling you. You're knock you'd enough to be a streetwalker definitely absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah if somebody said you know ribbons you you're good enough to be uh called out to be a a male escort. Thanks i'm not going to do it but i appreciate thanks. It's like no. No you don't understand you don't have a choice. You're going to be a male last one. That's how this thing works got it. Oh oh mixed percents got it. Yeah so you kind of weird but flatter yeah so fast that you really see somebody with a cat on a leash yesterday okay okay. I don't know if it was a cat but it was not a dog. It looked like a ferret the way it was move inc because i've never seen a cat leash person just in videos always think it scripted or just the thing but it was not a dog i swear to you affair and of course how people still get fair. It's still popular. I guess i mean i don't know that they're popular. Uh-huh definitely walk them on leashes goes on a leash really yes. It was so weird because she would have to walk it would would. I don't need a walk but to walk because i don't know why they would need to leash. I saw it and went the opposite direction because i was freaked out. How did they come up with where what what is the origin of the ferret and the key actually i would imagine they're related to a prairie dog but i mean do they grow in the wild and then somebody somebody started breeding them domestically and get started you make so they cross a weasel and a prairie dog and this is what they got. I mean i don't how had an affair it come about. I don't know <hes> let's see <hes>. The domestic ferret is thought to be domesticated western or eastern european polecat a polk <hes>. That's what we called skunks. A country people called skunks poll cats when we were growing up where two ferrets originally come from <music> north america north african lineage of the species of the european polecat d._n._a. Suggests the ferrets carrots were domesticated around two thousand five hundred years ago <hes> so they're native to <hes> a native to i guess europe originally a european then somehow they're domesticated. North african brought to america. I know they have a very strong scent. Yeah yeah there. Actually one of the things that points out is a part part of the name pretorious. It's the mu stella who torius furrow pretorious is the from the latin putter which means <hes> the musky odor of the ferret also also gase yeah and furrow comes from <hes> feren meaning thief so they're they are like weasels. Yeah bigger yeah so <hes> yeah. It was knitting like that yesterday. Can they kill snakes. They fight snakes like a mongoose does wall mongoose will terrorist snake up. Yes it will. There's a guy on youtube that his whole youtube channels devoted to his dog and his i wanna say it's not maybe a weasel and they work in and pay it. They work as a team to run out. People's rats on their farms and it's amazing how this dog and weasel work together. The dock scares them up and then the weasel goes after it's insane to watch. He's got a follower but i'm just curious. How come you and riley. Don't have your own youtube channel yet. It's too much so you don't have all these other youtube channels. You have millions of viewers. It seemed like you and your dog. Riggins would be perfect for this <hes>. He's not skilled at anything so see if you can find us where <hes> we're a ferret and snake fight. Let's let's try to start that up. As a business the you know the i cage fighting but with people would would bring your bring your bring your fighting snake in the fair. We've got a whole compilation here and that's a fair yeah okay. That's one of them in the wild in right up in north africa. I recognize you know when we were there on vacation occasion. That's a rattlesnake too. It looks like we're about to go down the rabbit hole of fighting animals and that's going to be crazy just crazy other tapping. That's actually haven't missed him. You know on the anna on animal planet. They have <hes> friday night fights. Do they really were they show. Animals fighting a giraffe tear somebody a not somebody but if it's fighting with another giraffe or something they pull their next all the way down it's down to the ground and then just slam it back up as hard as they they can uppercut in the other giraffe. Oh yeah it's fun won a bunch of money on that yeah. It is a double throwback thursday when it comes to delicious audio. Do we have the song that after thirteen million views many calls the worst song ever recorded and one lady being tokyo. Police car makes a special shout out that is still used in means today. 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Look if you take a basketball player. They're twelve on an n._b._a. Team if the twelfth player only n._b._a. Team showed up to the wi to play with you and in your boys he would dominate you in shocking fashion. You would be in awe of how good he is like. The worst player is still unbelievable to play any major ager. League level sports crave so there's a forty six year old guy and his name is keith mounts. I don't know what his last name is. Boy daryl funny really he is in the tampa area and he was over at a friend's house and <hes> he used the restroom at the friends the house and he didn't flush so the friend said hey keith buddy flush the toilet bro so keith didn't like that you know being being put on as the kids say blast like that so he did the <hes> the thing that everybody else would do if they're thinking rationally he grabbed a machete and threatened to chop the guy's head off <hes> he threatened so so rose talking the police got there and there was a machete in the yard keith said <hes> he picked up the machete in self defense but then he couldn't come up with any any reason why he felt threatened with the other guy don. What have you threatening right so this is <hes> this is the best part of the story which lends me leads me to believe that <hes> keith mounts <hes> is pretty pretty chill. When it comes to caring about things in life you know how the <hes> the police will hand them a note book a little pad and say all right right your statement on here whether it's a confession or whatever you tell me in your words what happened right down and he just grabbed the pin and the legal pad and he scratched out something on it and then swirled at around so the cop could read it and it had two words on it blank happened. Ah that's really all you need to know right <hes>. I know you didn't grow your eyes at me. Oh who were you rolling your eyes at oh. Oh that's what i saw. Somebody meant to get called out somebody on the t._j. Show that's what we're going to. I'm going to nick this is the show wanna save up to seventy five percent on domestic or international airline tickets. Then call low cost airlines for prices so low. We can't publish them call eight hundred two eight seven forty-seven sixteen eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen coming on the t._v. Zhou lady and i don't know a lot would say she doesn't deserve a second chance now that she has paid her debt to society and some people would we're going to let you decide. We'll we'll discuss it and it'll be very interesting and very funny and you'll be <hes> discussing all throughout the labor day weekend with your friends dance or your cats so you don't want to miss that you do not sass <hes> y you put up. I roll emojis on twitter did just put up a i'm. I roll emoji. Who who who you fighting with moving. What's what's the problem. You got. One of those girls all right as we no no. I'm talking to somebody right now. The ball way alloy and he's been very busy with works. We haven't been talking as much but he's really good at starting the conversation so i know he's still interested but we're not talking as much as i want to. We're not seeing each other as much as i wanted to see him and and that's why i rolled says no rather than like venting sentences and sentences and having a novel full of complaints i decided listen. I rolled because he's like talking to me and ask me how i'm doing and he's not making plans. The you really wanna know live so by doing that and making him feel bad about it and terrible and guilty not gonna make it better. I didn't make them feel bad. When you mean what he's gonna no no why you were hitting a house the twitter order and i'll tell him that in person the efficacy but but who's the who's been fit i mean who did you want to see the nothing i was just on twitter and it was exactly what i did in the moments i was gonna the. I don't even know you had twitter t._j. Don't reagan's told <hes> you're a jerk. What you're you gotta. Let me just live my life. I can't stand you. Where's he line. No he's not located. Let me just tweet you say anything about it on the radio. I say thanks for against appreciate you. I thought there why because i knew this was going to happen. When i saw i went. That's extremely vague. That's either about this person or this person. There's definitely a story there and you don't post something because it's your it's your radio twitter account. It's not even your personal once. I was like she clearly wants somebody to see. There's a story here. I just don't know what it is so i tell t._j. I was like i l let him break. I'll let him do the dirty that mostly for the women that follow name because they love to comment and tweeting back saying like ou sas a going on which was my reaction did it was just me for you but it was just me sharing my mood and that exact moment i feel like i've done something wrong this conversation 'cause i'm playing the role like oh. My gosh like what what is this t._j. Yeah no he wasn't supposed to tirelessly. Yes laughing heard but i didn't think about because she knows i don't i. I don't mess with twitter but what does it because i was going to be like the sympathetic like oh my gosh. What is that and i think i did it pretty well yeah. It wasn't like a serious. She dragged it out to me. Yeah <hes>. I really did golly well. I'm not going to tweet aroma is alone. No it was because i knew it was gonna be the about something good but did it work. Did you get a reaction from him. Does your response talking. They're busy with stuff and he's not feeling well from his weekend with the boys and <hes> but yeah just talking it i want it took the move them right so let me know salt innocent interesting conversation. What's he doing this weekend. Weekend hasn't made plans for the weekend at town. Oh for that kind of own you then okay well. You can't blame him if he hasn't made glad. You're going to be out of town this weekend. I don't know i just. I'm just glad it's all cleared up now. Yeah how is t._j. What a relief. I roll nature's coming up on now. Trending regan's quickly. They <hes> lot of stuff going on this morning. Including a star of kid show is hosted nut or straps out there is he's getting sexy less than ten minutes and now there's more as t._j. Off it it's not the news but it is the stuff that you'll really be talking about the rest of the day now trending with riggins on the ace and t._j. Show a lot. A lot of stuff from your childhood is is getting brought back getting killed off forever twenty. One looks like they're gonna file for bankruptcy that might be going away but not totally surprising a lot of those so thing shops that are found in chapter eleven <hes> forever chapter eleven. They should be forever chapter nine. I mean really in <hes>. It's called northlake mall here that day huge store huge store yeah. I wasn't there saturday in forever. Twenty one yourself ah daughter picking up just picking up something <hes> slide -til it was my girlfriend was forever twenty one picking up some fat vibes picking up some case where he was picking up the outfit that she made sure that you could see your from the bench she was sitting on out in the mid way went in keep you on the kids can we we still chick-fil-a i mean give them space to grow up but you know you still got to keep an eye on <hes> and kind of the opposite <hes> <hes> forever twenty one might be going away but blue's clues is definitely coming back in november. It's now hosted by this guy. This guy named joshua dela cruz. I think is his name. They showed a clip on monday in day of the reboot and it still features steve the original host as josh's cousin but <hes> people have just discovered that josh here's what he looks like on the show. You still got blue. He sounds the santita. Do your blue person. That was not that perot so so that's that's the host he watched it as a kid in real life that easings really excited about the big people have discovered this other picture of josh de la cruz bruce and there is and now people are people. Why is some <hes> this is the thing. Why are you surprised how somebody named josh delacruz. How crews not automatically thought of as hot. You know that guy's going to be hot yeah yeah daily daily crew post a side by side of those two pictures for everybody if you follow us on twitter will post it in a second at the t._j. Show put it up on our facebook page the ason t._j. Show the comments are hilarious because everybody's like i got a clue he could find eh terrible because that is a that was a my daughter's childhood that was a staple blue's clues and low bill where her two favorite shows to watch now every day all day. Get you know you owned the d._v._d.'s and all that kind of stuff and making you crazy yeah in in his hot picture picture he looks like a like a <hes> sexy nerd <hes> with obsessive compulsive disorder really yeah kind of see that you just you know i don't know why interesting hot take on that <hes> but he pretty yeah he real good leon and the top trending trending topics this morning hashtag thursday thoughts thursday motivation thursday morning so dive into that if you're interested great stuff wouldn't be interested understood exactly all those things are trending okay <hes>. There's a lady who's paid her debt to society. Would you be willing to give her a second chance or are you going to be all judgy for the rest of your life. It's up to you. You're gonna love this hanging on teachers show walmart family mobile check out their unlimited plans with no contracts right in the electronics department hartman at walmart and see how much you could save on mobile today coming up tomorrow on the a._c. t._j. Show it is just the world famous friday morning again blastoff kicking off your weekend then before we get to the weekend review tomorrow we will have a live studio. The audience is another radio family friday which is always fun so that's happening tomorrow on the t._j. Show listen carefully to the details of this because you know far too often in our culture we are unforgiving and and <hes> we're always told you should give someone told you give someone another chance. Don't be so judgmental. It happens in sports. All the time player screws up coach gives him another chance and sometimes things work out and sometimes they blow their chance so this lady in indiana back in two thousand one one that's eighteen years ago <hes> was in the throes with with her boyfriend and they were <hes> playing a fun game together now with with the kids listening and all that i'll try to speak in code here so you get it. They were <hes> they were playing <hes> cops. She was up okay. She was the cottons he was the arresting office. Yes okay so <hes> while she had him <hes> restrained in a <hes> in a you know the the consensual <hes> cop and bad guy guy <hes> pretend game <hes> she had some sort of mental break and thought that he was <hes> the devil and that he was possessed in hugh is <hes> in her head and <hes> <hes> someone was telling him to telling her to kill him so while he's restrained. She stabbed him thirty nine times. Kill him oh she admitted to it. She said i've done wrong. I can't erase the pain abroa- i can't bring tony's life back. That was his name <hes> <hes> she just she said believe with all my soul <hes> that people were actually telling me to do that in high and i needed help so she's been released from prison. She served eighteen years of a forty five year prison. Sentence <hes> good behavior all of that she was led out early way or the model prisoner <hes> now she's coming out of prison a single woman don't she's going to be looking for companionship because it's human nature. Is somebody gonna give her a second chance. It's in a relationship and say okay. She's a good person. She's paid her debt to society. Let's go get some fro. No is that basically the damning yourself to a lifetime of <hes> of being single or unless you move somewhere else and you never tell anybody what happened and why you were imprisoned. It's not like you go to prison for robbing a bank. You know the problem there though is to me t._j. You have to measure the fact that the last time when the incident occurred it occurred in the throws of passion and she had some type of mine lock and went crazy right the moment anything passionate began. I think any guy would have to be thinking now. Cautious watching for signals that things could be happening. You know but you know i always look for the good in people right. That's what i do <hes> at least a guy who may be wanting to date her can look at at one of the <hes> the pros and the pros and cons of she's not a prude true. She's she's willing to <hes> <hes> be adventurous and again. Maybe the good side of that is the fact that as long as you never allow yourself to be a <hes> restrained defend yourself well but i would be thinking you can't control win and win. The voices may come back and all that it could be while you're asleep. It could be when she's waiting on you to walk through the door. You know at the end of the day in this a surprise attack. I mean you never know yet you can be you can be forgiven but that doesn't mean people will forget and they have the right to be cautious washes. That's fair bad-looking. No yeah well especially in the only picture that we have over as you know in prison yeah being in caged heat. She's got one eyebrow goes kind of a stray like she's had <hes> too much botox on one side. You know how that happens and i guess that browse go our intern. Adam said i think she would either have to lie. Obviously find someone else's broken as she is. Surely there's a website out there for people like that. There is a website for that. There's a website for everything they're also so websites and they're also groups of people who are attracted to. There's a whole show called life. After laka love after lockup or something like that where these with these people date <hes> you know fall into relationships with prisoners and soon as the prisoner is led out they try to start a life together <hes> i. I think it's gonna be a guy who considers her to be out of. His league looks wise and in a hash general though t._j. Sheet at the date down a little bit. Oh yeah yeah sas flip the script on that back. You meet a guy and he says look beyond just got out of prison. There's incident happened eighteen years ago. Do you still give him a chance. No okay. I wouldn't move states countries. I mean if he knew my phone number that point no way so who in the ace and t._j. Radio family is the <hes> the best giver of second chances. What have you forgiven and either it turned out to to be the right move and you're happy or you look back on it and then go all right. I was a fool for thinking that person was changed now not saying it has to be on the level with she stabbed her ex boyfriend thirty nine times and then i went out with her because i thought she was okay. Okay i mean it could be you know he stole your car to leave you for another woman but then he came back and you thought he was changed and you gave him another chance and now you live happily ever after that would be a big one. <hes> and i like to think that and i'm forgiving person wouldn't yeah so i mean you can you can forgive somebody but still hold a grudge judge and and plot revenge right no exact opposite of forgiveness. That's so essentially the biggest thing somebody this radio family has forgiven yeah could be in a relationship or it could be somebody that you you know you like you met this woman and and you know her past and you said okay well. I'll take her on a date. I'll test the waters here. Give her another chance could be a friend situation. Yeah this <music> this guy that i met at work. He's he's very nice and he told me that <hes> <hes> he when he was younger he did drugs and he went out of his mind and burned his mom's house down but he hasn't done anything like this so we're buddies circulating more one to twenty three eighty. Five is one triple eight forty one as t._j. You can text us just text a t._j. And your message to nine six eight nine three arnuhar social media next t._j. Show now triple eight forty one it. You'll be connected funny with the ason t._j. Show on subscribe on itunes or simply search with alexa the a._c._t. Tapio on demand now j. quickly recap. This lady in <hes> indiana was released early from prison. After serving eighteen years of forty five year sentence <hes> her crime was murdering her boyfriend when they were <hes> engaged in <hes> couple activities stabbed him thirty nine times because she just had a mental breakdown kind of thing and thought she heard voices saying going to kill him so she not prison somebody's to give her a second chance and date her so the biggest second chance that you've given someone and did it worked at it. Not work doesn't have to be a relationship kind of thing. It could be a friendship. It could be a family member. Whatever list says a girl. I worked with her boyfriend tip. 'em ripped rip their sixty five inch t._v. Off the wall in they're living room at three a._m. To sell it to the neighbor for drugs on christmas eve. She led him back home three days later nice. I'll see that's when i ripped ripped it off the what i should have sold it for drugs never done that. Here's a text that we got. Do you forgive that sas what in a fit of rain drips that t._v. Out of the wall. Maybe klay soda for john christmas eve. That's what really hurt me. The most vulgar this text we guys said i chose to forgive my ex after he cheated on me and then six months later got his <hes> and then six months later he got his lesbian being best friend pregnant but not my best choice. It's funny that works out yeah. I'm wondering if she if she never ever was and he just said hey i'm safe but or if she was and then just you know had that one moment you wanna wear and how about this what happening right now. Keep me lucy a year ago. My husband moved in his ex girlfriend fran for nearly ten years ago to <hes> to help her. She has a pass with drugs and alcohol. She has outstanding charges so he had her turn herself in and we posted bail to get out out of pain bond. She lives with us for three months and my husband's starts arguments with me daily as he wanted to put blame on me for being jealous of her. I'm the wife but he would rather spend time with her. He tried to force me to leave with my two kids but i refused so he left and took her fast forward. Seven months later. I got the call from him that she's committed suicide and he needs me. I go to get him and he comes back home. I'm trying to be as supportive as possible but having a hard time with what will happen when i helped this girl and he did this five months later. We are living in the same home. He thinks things are good but i don't know if i can get through it and completely. Let go tough one. I know wow that's not funny the at all not at all <hes> then again i mean do you want to be friends with somebody who just has mediocre charges isn't isn't it great that she had outstanding charges. I mean bravo alone. Wow you're warrants are outstanding young lady uh-huh oh but then that other stuff was really sad yeah yeah so she really really giving second. Chances are given second chances if she's still not liking it. She allowed him to come back a second chance. You're just not sure if she can pull it off the girl that says hey classic example. My boyfriend cheated on me. I gave him a second chance and now we're getting married. Good deal. <hes> you say <hes> sas ask you do you don't want <hes> no way no way no no if ands or buts with you not about shading <hes> my book sorry all right lotta people are that way <hes> but i'm glad they're happy now i hope me to that's all i want is for people to be happy on. That's what my whole life is is trying to make people smile and be happy. Sometimes they just refuse in this one. That just came in. My friend of twenty plus years slept with my boyfriend. She's in the hospital right now and today i'm buying her. P._j.'s carrying them to her to visit her. <hes> that's forgiveness and true friendship. Yeah it is unless she's going to get in there and say i brought you these pajamas and because even mm sluts when they're sleeping in t._j. Show oh i'm sorry emma stepping on your oxygen hose. It's only since you you cut off my air. You know take that how should look with sleep all right <hes> ladies. Hey whether you've got a college degree or whether you never went to college. You are going to want to sign up for these classes. You are going to want to sign up for these college. Classes and you better hurry because registration is right now. Give you the details next as the show coming up on the acer t._j. Show you have a notes section in your phone. We establish that women keep a lot out of unusual notes more so than men but once there that's <hes> could be convicted could be mean gene who'd be sexing. We're going through the notes section of your phone at about thirty minutes on the future and we think a lot of guys are gonna in a very surprised at some of the things that are kept that come out of the notes section of ladies phone. That's in about thirty minutes on the ace and t._j. Show all ladies listen up doesn't matter your age is a matter <hes> your <hes> sexual preference. It's you could be singing. The song man i love college a hey twenty four hours a day because the university of texas at austin has just hired one one of their alma mater people alumni to become a professor. He's been a visiting professor and he's done guest professor before but they've just made him a full time instructor his name professor mcconnell. Hey i'll run. They were looking at those classes and they said hey as matthew mcconaughey. The professor and the answer was it'd be a whole lot cooler of iwo. Ah so. Can you imagine that sas. You're the closest one to the college age here if matthew mcconaughey hey where your instructor at a class <hes> would you be able to get get anything done. Purposely fell to have private tutoring and now it felt a class again and then retake it. The moment he the office hours the line is forming off hours on tuesday wanted to thirty yeah my email and my phone number. It is beautiful. You know every bit. It seems as cool as what everybody says that some people were really i didn't he's not qualified qualified to teach. He's not a teacher well in college. You don't have to be in on the fool on go to school and be you know get a degree in education education and all of that <hes> this is kind of a trend among colleges because he's successful in the real world of what he's going to be teaching which tim and that sort of thing <hes> my daughter goes to a college in nashville that is a very in <hes> in connection with the <hes> the music industry so there are classes at her college that are taught by people from the music world <hes> record company people <hes> <hes> production people that produce songs and that sort of thing but you have to have so many years of <hes> <hes> of success in the real world of that before they'll let you come and be an instructor. I've got buddies saints business classes and he didn't have an education degree. He's got a masters in business and so he just teaches basic level <hes> early intrigue <hes> business classes but i just think it gets its cold at matthew mcconaughey as now worried about getting tenure professor. I can't fire armie now. Love him as much as i hate college i would i would maybe sign up for that because you know the class would be cool. It just has to pull right coming up on now. Trending with regan's tick tock is one of the biggest apps of the moment and now now people are organizing strikes on their details now trending in less than ten minutes d._j. Coming up.

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