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The Bill Simmons Podcast
"paul byron" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"I don't see the giant against my eagles. Yeah, I don't see the Giants getting a 20 three 25 points, especially with the way Barkley looks these days. All right, I'll figure it out. The only other one just quickly was the saints bucks game. Just give me 30 seconds on what you see from the bucks. Because to me, I just think they're not good. I don't think anyone in the NFC south is good, but even like that line where it's like bucks three and a half over the saints. And I'm like, why isn't this like, why am I getting an extra half point with the saints? This is like one crappy team and gets another crappy team. I don't think, I don't think the bucks, they could move the ball and their DOA and some of their advanced stats look better than maybe it is because they're so bad and the red zone. But I just think once they get inside the 20th it's so hard for them to score Mike Evans does look like the same guy to me. Defensively, they lost their right tackle, which I think is going to be a big deal. Brady doesn't really move. And I just, I'm not sure, I'm not sure I see it. I was thinking about the saints either plus three and a half or putting them in underdog parlay. Underdog parlay makes sense. Three and a half, I think it's fine as well. I'm personally on the under in this game at 40 and a half. Dennis Allen, the saints defensive coordinator typically has done a really good job against Tom Brady in this offense over the course of his time there with the saints. I've been on this for the box since the beginning of the season. I haven't waited. It was not a good team. Well, coached. Todd Paul Byron leftwich are not interested in winning football games. They're interested in doing what they like doing. And then they think it'll win them football games despite contrary evidence this plane is the nose on their face. It's very disappointing and frustrating. Bruce Arians was doing a lot for this team. And Bruce also had his own game management issues and still was doing a lot for this team. The Tristan worst injury also really just neuters the only vestige of hope along this offensive line. Brady under constant pressure not able to hook up with Mike Evans consistently. They can't run the football. Like once you can't run the football against the browns, you officially can not run the football period. It's just you're out. Isn't it you don't have a chance. I don't see the way the box moves the ball effectively. And then the saints. Yeah, the red zone production against the niners hid what was honestly like a decent offensive outing. I think the saints like with Andy Dalton are fine. Chris olave, healthy, really helps to want Johnson's been solved for them at tight end. I think the three and a half is the right lean with the saints, but the under is where I'm stronger. I think this is just a slobber knocker and an ugly game that I inevitably will lose on like a defensive touchdown with four minutes left. Buck's point since week four, 21, 18 three, 22, 16, 21, 17. Now, it's bad. They're basically middle of the road, DVA, and they're off on the red zone. They're 25th. And I think it's cost them games left and right. It's certainly you watch them just go three and out, punting and all they needed was three more points that Cleveland game it's over. And they couldn't even get first downs. And fournette's back practicing this week. And fournette is a net negative for the steam because Brady loves him. They use they give him 20 plus touches. He's not as good as Rashad white. So fournette back helps me. Yeah, I just wish I'd like to say it's more, but I think I'm leaning the bucks. All right, good to see you. Good luck against Mike frabel in the Tennessee Titans this weekend. Say hi to our friend shield and I hope you have a good cheese. To go along with the game. Appreciate it. You take care. This episode of Boseman's podcast is brought to you by my old friend zip recruiter. The best teams start with great talent, but finding the right people can be a challenge. Even when you're a champion, this is a challenge. Look at the warriors right now. They're still not even 500. They won the championship last year. They lost a couple guys. One guy gets hurt. You move some rookies and some young guys in. They're not the same.
Newsradio 970 WFLA
"paul byron" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA
"Is for good roll across the barnyard. Igor Left circle shoots over the net. Rebound is a long one. It comes to Suzuki lost in McDonough, its centre McDonald looks to make a play for Coleman, right when Johnny Gord Each room to help put it back to the lightning end for McDonough McDonough will deliver it to the Montreal and the line to complete their change. Then Sherrod short feet for Caufield, left Wing Romano on the left side of Suzuki to center ice or rattle it in Moskovsky leaves it for Hedman by the lightning that around the near side, Jan Rueda. We're looking things over a little past roles to Ross Colton at center ice defeated across the blinds, so really couldn't get it. Petrie does right side feed. It's Byron relating and Paul Byron right Circle. Little centering feed knocked away from Evans by rude and Stamkos counters for Anthony Cirelli in the right wing across the Montreal line takes a hard cecum. Edmonson keeps them alive for Stamkos. Right corner loose pirate out of the far side lacking in Artery like Canada, Montreal He's back to Edmondson of the left wing. Outside our Jake Evans Descente. Evans flips it in. Nearly six minutes in no score. Sergiyev pumps the puck around the near side to David Savard. And Savard clears. It's going to bounce to maroon, the Montreal's and over his stick. Whoever clears to center Johnson rattles it back in Weber, another clear Is going to come into the lightning zone for Savard left him circuit, Kev. Will feed on the left side, Matthew Joseph. Fires it down the ice. No icing, Brett Kulak. Well, ram it out to center. Savard knocks it down and bumps it back in. And they didn't call offside on that maroon. Let's touch it. I thought it would have been really not maroon. Got it deep behind that Matthew Joseph pursues it. Webber Steel and Shea Weber trying to clear held in Brandon Point right Circle. Point makes his way toward the right corner wraps across ice, waiting for his head and left circle back for point Left circle. Great in point of the offensive zone protects it at the left point. Little feed. Miss Bhalakula takes it away. Kulik is checked by Palat. Right Palat Jabba for could drop by the net. Back for Pilate in front missed his stick point gets to it right circle. Right point to Rueda. Rudo Little feet Behind the Net. Miss Pellet Stick. Cool Act, The interception right wing to Corey Perry will finally clearing domination by the Lightning early, but no score. Pull out the other way across the Bontecou drive right circle. Nikita Kucherov Wheels behind the day goes back to pull out right corner, a drop pass stolen away by Arc stall. Stall of feed, deflects out to center ice. Ben Sharon, the Lightning Zone. Sharon right circle Sharratt shoots missed the net wide left long rebound carries the Pakistani rice for Kucherov. Launch across his victor Hedman had been at the Red Line, bangs it in. 12 39 left in a scoreless first Petri a little pass up the middle. You get it out to center ice. Gord steals that quick counter Blake Coleman across the line left circle. Woman shoots a price rebound loose behind the net. Coleman after it, Coleman does win it. Works, Johnny Gord, Right Corner gorgeous Well to trap the puck down White Circle Coleman. I get the right points of art shoots save made by price,.
Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"paul byron" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Ready for over time. So it's It's a nice feeling for sure in unsung hero in front of his family. Indeed, Game five, shifting back to the Strip on Tuesday night. And that was Canadian baby. All right, that was great strips. Now, folks, That was the first time you ever looked at it. So just to help my case here, I'm not asking to re read the whole script. I need you with emphasis and knowing what's coming to give me the Paul Byron goal line and the wa lying about the tank it out. Now, let's sell this a little bit. Okay. Aaron Paul Byron was breaking bad news to the nights. That's a breaking bad reference. I'll take it great fine, and the other was Nicholas Huahua needed a tank, a gas and a good sandwich. Nicholas Wa wa wa wa needed a tank of gas and a good sandwich plate clip. If you're anywhere, I guess in the Northeast, you know, While why is that great gas station that serves great sandwiches. His name is Nicholas Nicholas Wa. Voila! Good tank of gas in a good sandwich. That is gold stuff the pole buyer instead of going to give you a classic give you Aaron. Paul. Byron was breaking bad news like Aaron Paul wasn't breaking bad. Obviously I gave you the night was golden. I gave you the hitting on 16. For those to me are the absolute money makers of this and I think truthfully had I had my voice revved up. You guys would have loved Canadian bacon today. I still think you did a good job at the post. I mean, I just I I wish someday somebody loves me as much as you love you because I mean, there is not even a centimeter of moment. Humbleness year. The money maker that goal of course I gave you this. I gave you that. You just checked out of reading this script, and yet you still want credit. For somehow being tough enough to do the segment. I mean, so, listen, you want to like this? That's fine. Aaron, Paul Byron Breaking bad news. Good. Wow, what was probably my favorite line. I probably didn't read it correctly. But that's a good one to maybe two regional, though, for some folks would have no idea what a wa wa is. That might be an issue with that one. But this is fine. If you want to give it an A and say it's your best one ever what you do every day, then go ahead. I've got no energy left to fight you. It's not my best one ever. But I thought was very good. Pete. Your thoughts on on how the script went for Canadian Bacon. I thought bogus did a great job sprucing up a mediocre script. Thank you, Peter says the guy who threw up his hands said I'm not doing that. I'm not reading your writing. Well off the top of your head. How would you have given me upon on the Patrick waggle? What's his name? Nicholas Nicholas. Um Have to think about that. But I'm not giving you one right now. All right. I was gonna go with the ST Nicholas. Something like that. By the way, you could've sold Billy Joel little more to. We haven't had an overtime ending man in a long, long time. And by the way, Where's Kyle? What? A Vegas overtime ending man video. Nowhere to be found. Yes. No, I was going to mention that But he did do whenever they lost Game three, right? I I think I saw that he did a losing recap, which I appreciated by the Where is the one from last night an upside down, Mike. We didn't play his video. I'll be honest with you. I blanked on it. But The Islanders did win. They blew a three Nothing lead out of the 32. And if anybody saw this game on Saturday night, I probably tough because Game seven was going on in Brooklyn, Milwaukee. The Lightning have a wide open net. The goalie has had a position for the Islanders with two seconds left the senator over time, and it's Ryan Pulock, the defenseman for the Islanders, were slides into the crease in front of the net and plays goalie. Basically, we don't go the equipment on and saves The game tying goal from going in at the buzzer, which would have sent the Islanders in lightning in Game four to overtime. Boobs. Not sure if you caught it that might have been the moment of the postseason to date. What an unbelievable job. I mean, I've watched a lot of hockey games. I've never seen that before. In hockey. It's hard, obviously to have a buzzer beater. But we were getting a buzzing beat a buzzer beating goal to go to over Tyre Mint added. Nowhere. He slides across, knocks down. The crazy thing is normally a game ends, and everyone surrounds the goalie and hugs the goalie. Everyone, including the Golway Varlamov Chuchi volley volley went to Pollak and surrounded him and hugged him like he was. The going for the whole game was a ridiculous scene and a good job by.
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Roy Scores 1:18 Into OT, Vegas-Montreal Series Tied 2-2
"Hometown boy nickel wants scored in overtime to lift the Vegas golden knights to a two one comeback win over the Canadiens in Montreal the Stanley Cup semifinal is now tied to the to the story in this one though was the gutsy move by head coach Peter devore who gave robin letter the not between the pipes over Marc Andre Fleury the Swedish goaltender pushed aside twenty seven shots just another another game another opportunity to go out and help this team and this organization winning game one goal one game closer together the help finals later surrendered the lone goal to Paul Byron on a breakaway in the second period the series will resume in Vegas on Tuesday night L. A. lariviere Montreal
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Price Makes 29 Saves, Canadiens Beat Golden Knights 3-2
"The Canadiens never trailed in their three day two game to win the semifinals now tied at one eight eight by superb shot blocking Carey price made twenty nine saves Joel Armia entire to fully gave Montreal a two nothing advantage but the game winner came on Paul Byron second period back hand enough to outdo a two goal performance from Alex but trends look on this night the habs once again showed they know how to play with the lead in these playoffs there are six in all went up after two periods I'm Bruce Morton
Backstage Pass Radio
"paul byron" Discussed on Backstage Pass Radio
"They were so talented. And it didn't matter back in the thirties. Exactly so yeah you and there were probably some people that were like a rare articles by christopher cross. You know he was remember. That's how you won a grammy. He was at whatever year that was that was it san antonio boy and he always talks about how he just. It was right before the visual era. And he just isn't a. I mean he's just a dude as a good looking guys abnormal looking guys. He's fingers you're out of his head but he i mean and these are his words. I'm not saying but he said he was just a little. That was just that era and then you had that magical weird time where it all worked like a youtube good looking people. The police Duran duran i mean you can say what you want about duran but those guys took their that was. They were serious about that. Know so it all worked kinda worked together but that was when the visual you know again. The that's where you're saying like when we grew up it was not the visual part of it was something but it wasn't all you now. You can almost kind of almost always think about that for sure. You almost can't separate it at all and you'd always hear about i remember. I gave a great example. We went and saw the cars. This was like the candy. Oh album came out and we love the cars and these are like all musician buddies who use other great so we go see him in austin and we had no idea they were like a chick ban they were like benjamin order like the most beautiful creature ever said and these women are just like. We didn't know at all really. This is the have that appeal. We think about that. You know so it wasn't that we were disappointing. But you're just like okay. I guess right but it's true. I mean it's just a and everybody makes it's about the i dunno performance or it's about sincerity. You look like a guy like rick springfield you think of being more about image than music right man they. Nobody's more serious about music than rick springfield he. He's he lives and dies. Songwriting you he just pretty man. He's a rockstar. Have you ever go see rich. Springfield live even if you're not a fan but it's on a great show. God you guys should be. I think the media has taken it. I mean you look at american idol and the voice. you know. there's some fantastic singers that are like you said. Have a face for radio but when i think when these people are signing talent you have to have the appeal to. I think that's part of it is part of the marketing of the music. And here. here's a crazy thing. Is i see a lot of The the artists that i follow on instagram specifically and some of the female artists. Every picture you see on post on instagram is almost like it's like a glamour shot and how about how about singing a song or your musician. So and so music. How about singing a song and showing us your talent. I don't yeah you you're beautiful and everything but it's like that has preceded the whole talent thing. I'm beautiful but oh i play a little guitar too ended tricky. I mean it's again. I don't i don't know i mean everything's just different. You know music in general consume so differently than it used to be. Yes that was. That's the thing that. I think being older that i just i would never pretend to be some kind of historian like a kept track of it. But i've seen it. I actually have played music since there was nothing like that. I mean i remember the first time i saw four track recorder. You know up until now was actually create an album with no one. So i've seen i've been in. I've lived in an interesting transitional time and has kinda done it the whole time. A lot of people will either adapt or die or just quit doing it. Because it's not the way they want to do it so they say i wanna do it anymore. Yes or or some people adapt. They don't really get good at it until they adapt like i don't know how to say this but like i have friends that were not that are like in production now and they really kept up with the technology and now they have jobs and they're doing stuff but they might not have the best year they just knew exactly to run the machine. The best you know guys didn't talk real quick to the listeners about bands that were pre wrapped ranch where what can't do in pre pre right ranch and i know you are with ranch a long time but what happened was it was every. I think everybody has a weird. They think their stories weird. But i i play in the emotions which was a fantastic group like fifteen and sixteen because those guys were all like twenty. I'd been in like high school band. And when i and the where the way that's relevant. I mean like i'd been in groups of people trying to create music. I've been in jazz ban stuff like that. So the first rule band. I was in was a bunch of big country. Boys from shire. Do don't do that. And i think when you're fifteen or sixteen that's what you need. You need somebody kind of telling you know man. Don't you know it's like the old a lot of my most respected musicians. I've ever play with kind of said the same thing. And when i say respected i mean guys that were way. More talented than me and had a lot more complex than they. They would all a few of them have said to me. My one of my best. My best friend. David simpson when we we grew up playing together and he played piano and i play guitar and i learned a lot every pretty much everything i knew about music up until we quit working together all from david and are just from having a communicate with them but he was a great musician and he could play anything but he would say something like no. It's not can you play it. It's should you play. Yes and i think. I learned not that i always knew what the play. I would never pretend that i ever learned that lesson but i just was all. I was from a very early age. Like the i bands our was in our in. I was in those guys were they were. They didn't let you just do whatever you want it. You know and i think you kind of need that when you say maybe not everybody but i already kind of jammed already kind of gotten that out of my system that you know just doing. I'm gonna just do what. I wanna do right at a very early age kind of gotten past that yes and i kinda immediately had already thinking in that one guy playing something awesome or like when you're talking about like the voice or american idol. You see one person doing something in the they've spent a million hours and they're really really good at it and it's impressive. There's no doubt about it. But i was always more impressed. You know by everyone. Doing you know like a band like us. Because it's rarer to this day it's rare you go see a band and you know i've said this and i don't know i'm probably not the first person to say but five guys all playing the same song as an that's doesn't mean it's a ban and even when i was in for thirty years i like we'd all be on the same page and just it just couldn't have been better four guys or even five and then a month later it was just horrible. It's not even a lot of it's just timing. You know and people's attitudes at the time but so before range they're really. I kinda had quit. I really wasn't doing it at all. And then when that started back up the philosophy was this. I don't know if this is a good win or not but was no plan. B like these. I already had a job. And i was doing something. So the guys that wanted to start this ban. We're doing anything. So i was like okay. I'm going to quit what i'm doing. I'm gonna quit working with my dad. I'm gonna give all this up. That i know is money in my bank account to do this. So everyone's gotta do it for a living. At least we'll have that in common. Yeah you know that if we don't all agree on everything we at least all have to make a living doing this some common. No plan b if you have a plan b. go do plan b. Yeah and in my life and that was one of the advantages to get into it. I wasn't a kid. That point a kid but i was my late twenties so i kind of approach it'll differently. I didn't it was like it's not gonna fail. It's just not yup. I i i've done things long enough and done enough research and gone and seen other bands ago. Okay i know what works what doesn't work and the one thing i learned or not that i learned but i i noticed right away was you can't create something that's not there and what i mean by that like like you had your ford especially when it's a small band like four or five guys. They're going to do what they do And they're gonna all have strengths and weaknesses. Got a play to those. Yeah you can't hire like if your keyboard player leaves. You can't fill that guy's roles exactly. It was correct so we would always adapt like every time we would lose a member or change it. Would you know what does that guy do. You know exactly what he does and whatever he does good. That's what we're gonna do. Well ranch formed by think back and eighty nine. Is that correct. And what did the original lineup look like for it was drums bass guitar and keywords in Everybody's saying for guys. You know like. I said were in victoria so we would travel. You know we get a gigging corpus. We get in austin so we had a lot of places to choose from. Yeah and it was a different again. I'll say this a lot. It was just things were different than there. Were probably more fulltime. I want to say fulltime bands. There were there. Were more bands back then without a doubt because more people just went out to see bands like you could go up and down the yon- sixteen austin do thousands of people out every night of the week. Not just the weekends. I mean you. Probably inserted. Sunday at maggie maze. And there'd be four hundred people so there was a mechanism to keep those bands working. Yup you know. How would you say that the set list. The song choices changed when i think the original singer was mark is that it was me and malcolm our original. While it was the three of us was pretty even look at when mark russell joined that was a fifth guy okay and he and he became more of a lead singer just because we kinda felt like we he was a he played guitar too but we kind of had felt like we needed that like we needed a more of a focus in just something to sing lead. Yeah that's kind of the way it happened but really with mark on a personally. I mean i wanted mark in the ban because he was just so serious about it. Yeah i mean he was serious and he still is. He's one of those guys that i knew that. I don't bands are tricky. I mean they're like any other relationship. They're they're very very complicated. But i've always felt like if you had at least have two guys. They're really really on the same page. Yeah you can. You can drive the drive. The ship that way. Well i was just curious. Like 'cause i remember when mark was with the band. If my memory serves me correctly there was quite a bit of things. Like sticks. And i remember rush. Yeah and and then he left and it went four piece. I think yeah and then some of those songs fell out. And i'm assuming i mean. Of course you have to adapt to what the the lead vocalist is capable of being right. They can't pull off every artist golota in that particular case We're doing. we're doing originals. Into so we were thinking in along those lines but also you know everything kind of runs. Its course like it sounds funny but there was a time whenever mark was in the band when that kind of music like now i have abandoned some seventies rock man. That's all we plays that kind of stuff but at the time you know there weren't a lot of bands at did that and that's kind of why we wanted. We thought you know what we like. Some of our favorite music we wanna play journey and russian and stuff so we kind of got him. In the band do that and he became. It wasn't a novelty but we did pretty well if the band was suited to doing that kind of stuff you know people really liked it. We did it and we were playing a lot so when he left in some of those songs. Kinda got retired and this through. Nobody's planning this is just highness happen. We had to learn a lot of new songs and we had a lot of learning more current sauces. We play anything current for a while so we were learning like blink one eighty two and all of a sudden that was when it was a big deal will. The reaction was huge to that because all of a sudden they're all my god i'm people are not they're never going to tell you they don't like what you're going to do with playing that song but when we did quit they're all my god. I'm so playing that now and it's just so much better. It wasn't better. No it's just different different. Yeah and So yeah we just kind of had again because we had to adapt to yes. I think Later on scott holding join our band and he was a like a kind of a. He's a great singer but he could sing like that kind of he added that to kinda high screaming voice. He could do a lot of stuff. We can do audio slave stuff like that and that's when it was a big deal so we adapted and we started doing stuff you just have to have to win and i think that that's a great segue into walking into the now with current bands you know. Let's talk about those so you have shotgun road you have the still newman do. Oh you have Mr wonderful you have diamond jack which happens to be my favorite of all of them. I just maybe. I'm just a seventies kind of guy that music just resonates with me. Diamond jackson kelly your favorite. Because i do the least well. You heard it first ladies and gentlemen all you listeners. I didn't want to say it but has confirmed the obvious. And i'm just sexy and that s my only purpose every ban has fabrio right. Yeah i think the brel brett brett was it and rat ranch while right and know what happened was again. Those are bands. That kinda they will like. Stacy already had his theory. Won't stacey stills. he's the best man and that was a relationship. That really helped me when i got out orange because he had his vision for his country ban which was classic country. It's like eighty nineties country and that's just as you know what he's really into and we were finding that it was it worked. You know he was right. I mean people like that kind of music. We ended up and with that with our country band. You know there's a lot of how i put this. There's bans is still kind of bill. Say their country band. They'll say us and they still want to try to be like a variety being. They still kind of want to be everything to everybody. Get away from it and that's okay. I'm not. I'm not look. It's if it works for them. I'm not gonna say they're anybody's doing anything wrong. There's no one way to do it but for us. We kinda san thought about it and we're lying you know we like to rock songs and it's all country you know and what we found again. No one's going to come up to you and man you guys suck it when we get any kind of complimentary one of the ones that we get. A lot is over so glad. 'cause y'all just do deaths which do do country right. We're playing in a country bar it's like actual guy can play the wobble. The dj complained that stuff. That's what for that's the point is and i think people kind of took to that and nowadays everything's so pigeonholed. I mean the tribute band thing. People kinda wanna know what they're going to get and i think that's why tribute bands are such a big deal right now. So variety bands are just. You know it's just not like it used to be you know. Play everything like what was cool about that and it was a band of its era. The thing that we did in a rare ranch where we'd probably we did anything right was we didn't man. You never knew what the hell when we play anything. Yeah and that was cool because because it really opened up we can play anything and the only criteria we had in that band was. Can we make it sound. Worth a damn does sound good. Are people going to know it. That's it and i think i'm not gonna say song. Selection is an important because it obviously is. But if there's one thing i kinda learn. I think i've learned but for me it works. Is that the main thing is can you make it sound good. Then the next thing is are people going to kind of know it. I really my kind of know it. i mean. it doesn't have to be the most popular song but they kinda either like your band or they don't they make up their mind pretty quick so even if you're up there playing their favorite music and they don't like you that's actually worse because you more like i can't believe it. I love this song. Why are they playing the song. So and so. What i mean by that is if you have a focus is that seemed to have that seems to have helped with these bands. What we have now is right saying having. We didn't wanna. I don't wanna be an attribute. Man that i didn't wanna be one but i didn't nothing really comes to mind and there's a lot of great tribute band but you know. We started doing the diamond. Jack thing and scott madigan's in that one for my ranch and we started talking about it and we were just kind of like we'll just nothing after one thousand nine hundred eighty man. Let's just keep it all seventies and see what we got at the guys in it just lend themselves to that kind of stuff perfectly exactly worked out great awesome. So would you say that of of the. I think four or five four bands four things. Yeah that's that's three more than i do. Is there one in. It's not a slight on any of the players in any of them. That's not why mask this question but does one of the band's genres register resonate better with you as a musician like the seventies or the eighties. I mean what i mean. It's unique. I get different and i like. I don't know man and everybody's unique mixture of chemicals but like for me. It's i mean. I like playing everything i mean. Always have mean it's just it's fun to be in a good band and you know what it doesn't really matter what you're playing you know. So that's all i care about are they. Do they sound good. You know. I mean and it's fun to play things at different. The country band was it wasn't it wasn't challenging. Because i kind of already knew what the play. And i had to learn. I just had to learn so many songs i wasn't familiar with. That was hardest part of that van. I don't because historically you aren't probably a country country western ever played it. I mean. I like everything and i was growing up. I probably the first people that i saw playing guitar. That i liked country. Guys like glen campbell and jerry. Jerry was as big influence on anybody when i was little because he was having so much. Fun yeah great picker. Everything about him was you. Were just like i want to do that. And i think that's what i'm looking for in a band is just as when you're in a band your job is just creating namath's fear i mean that's i agree with us all you're doing and so i think as long as those every band's doing that and whatever atmosphere is creating that's that's the point of it yup. It didn't that if you're original cover as a matter of doing the same thing really yup and and you touched on it a little bit earlier. You're doing some guitar instruction on your maybe on your own and through the school of raw. Can you do score a couple of days. Do like tuesday saturday. And that's and i love it. It's awesome not a slide against the but mainly because it just right my house so it's so easy to do and then of course i got a tat and you get attached to people and yeah. It's hard to not do it anymore. Not that i would. Never i would ever stop but i i would never do more than that and i'm assuming is just guitar that you're you're you're teaching your thing. I learned there right. you wanna do keyboard. Can you teach keyboards like will again. I yeah i could. But sure i'm not gonna you know well for the listeners are you. Are you taking new. Students are you. Looking for new students allowed really. I know things are picking back up from from covert a little bit and you guys are getting back out on the stage Which is gonna keep you busy but Wanted to make sure that if there were listeners. Out there that were looking for lessons We wanted to make sure to plug how how to find. You rightly the only ones doing privately. That i still do or like songwriting. Housing guys with ryan songs. According i've done a lot of i got a lot of recording on logic since they invented logic. I've been using so so. That's just one of those things where i've given i give There's a buddy of mine in dallas. Soon now we just started out as just friends just working all stuff and now he actually you know actually help him here and there but yeah it's just hard to. It's hard to find time. I i don't want to. I like to work with somebody. That has a specific goal. You know like they're learning. They wanted to get this thing. Done a good friend of ours. It was She wanted to sing in her wedding. You know she had a goal. Want sure absolutely made it cool. Well how long have you been associated with school. Arado about three years four years yeah operation. I mean it's so cool to to see. I mean it's a cool concept and it's it's music in a i don't know how to put it. It's a very it's just a it's just the attitude of it is is good. I think you know dorte like the teamwork and stuff. And i mean it's just a good. It's just a good concept because really to me. Like even when i give lessons for right now i got teenage boys at school rockin and you know they play guitar the rest of their life. You know whatever. I don't you know they're going to end up being whatever they're gonna be but i think anybody. That's i think the best thing that i learned from playing guitar. It's providing with the living and it's been fantastic and absolutely love to do it. Every time i get to go do it but it was. It's a challenge and it you never master it. Yeah like when. I get people lessons. I'm like this is like a rubik's cube with an infinite number of tiles because you're always learning new things about it. And i think anytime you pursue something like that. That's just good for your soul your your character. Especially if you're young like i said like boy saying to me. I was mad at my aunt. Because she said i was. You know she kind of took away the amount of work he put into exactly you know so. Hopefully that kind of work ethic not that i would ever try to teach somebody at work ethic but it the way it was explained to me one time and i thought it was great. Was that if you want to do something because it's fun within play a game on your phone. That stuff is designed to be detained but playing guitar is fun but it's a worthwhile all of the sacrifice you make to do. It is fun is part of it. That's just a part of blink and it's such a weird thing to make a living. Doing something is fine settings. It's like playing sports or something people they never they always kind of. Think it's a phase right when your family liberal up one day ten and cut your hair and get a real job at the you know the the mart or whatever the reason is because when they see what you're doing and you're the ultimate product of it is fun you're in you're putting on a show but they don't realize it all the work. Was you know. Ninety percent of it was not you. Don't see it and going back to the teaching thing. I think you can get kids involved with. I don't have any kids. So what would i know but that shows them that the work is worth it. you know. it's worth the best students are always the ones that have been like a musical theater or band where they're used to like working at it but then we had those kids like a like you have the school rock they put together these shows and you'll have a theme like punk rock or whatever. I don't direct the shows ever but mike mccullough from a diamond. Jackie we're player. He directs them and he always laughs about it to these kids will be like. Oh my god. I'm so sick of this song. You know you don't get to be sick of song That's not your. You can't play it until you're sick of it. You have to teach curbing until repetitive. This whole thing of you. Don't practice until you get it right you practice until you can't get it wrong and i still play stuff wrong constantly because you're still going to mess it up email but if you ever have a kid that's been like a musical theater which being nobody works harder than those people. Yeah who is it. Thirty people making one thing. It's not about how you feel about it. Yeah i agree. And i was always told to. I tried to instill this into my son brandon. Who's playing a lotta shows with me now. You get better. When you collaborate with other musicians and play with other musicians you can be The stevie ray vaughan king in your bedroom right but pushing him out on the stage and it's like a stage fright and it's like you just have to. You have to get out there. You have to experience you have to do it and once you do you look back six months from now and you say to really. Wasn't that big of a deal is just the unknown that we're afraid of and again i think you you hone your talent and you get better when you learn from other people and not. Just stay secluded by herself. And sometimes that's learning what not to do exactly not being negative but it's true. I mean especially like. I've been playing for so long. I mean i've learned more from people that have had to get rid of or you know where on my okay. Why what made that unpleasant. And then i don't wanna do that. Y'all don't be that guy even just something simple like drink or drunk you know i mean i. I never really did. I was never a big drinker. But after i played with guys who were then i was like man. There's i don't wanna be that guy exact thin any unfortunately in in especially in like a local music scene or people that are hobbyists when they're not actual and nothing against people that do as a hobby or they do it part time because they could still do a professional job of it but basically some guys play because they can get drunk. You have a bar tab. Where i'm not even joking about. I mean there are people that have that career because they can be an drinkers drink and might even looking down on. I'm not even. I'm not even looking down. Drinking people are time for drinking. I'm just talking about when it you know affects your performance and they tell themselves a dozen and they rationalize it just like anybody that drinks a lot does but you know like that was the other thing is i would always get. Why would never pretend to know how to run a club or manager book bands or any of that stuff and stuff. I've always kind of dumb. But i would never do it from a living but you know i heard too many club owners complain about those guys. Yeah because we didn't like in romance. We were pretty straight so they'd be like oh my god i mean we were like it when you all your because you don't get drunk and that's just so that's kind of depressing when you think about it. Why would you be praised for something you should do anyway. I know you wanna cookie. Well i never been to prison. Your so they would. They would tell me that. And so i'd hear all. I mean these are really good club owners guys that were did a great job of and own their own club and they would be drunk but they own perogatives. You're you're the employee your hard help. And and that's interesting. You say that. Because i won't mention the name of the place that i play but for a while at this place it was you know all of your food for the musicians was taken care of all all of your dreams. Were taking care of all night long and it got to a point. And i'm like you. I might have a beer here. And there are many of the micro breweries and rarely. Do i go in there. I just. I just don't probably because i don't wanna feel like shit for four days after that even if i drink when but but my point is there was groups and bands that have come in there and abuse that so much that the owner says no more no more. It's like well wait a minute. That was kind of part of my deal. That i worked out with you and now i'm getting stripped of that because somebody else's abuse it so you're always going to have those people i think and then you're never going to get away from that one time Ricky phones a club in tyler rix on the square and he's owned it forever and he's an awesome club. Owner any hardworking guy takes incredible pride and one time and he would be trouble. No no offense. Rick you hear this but brick like to drink at his uncle if he's the host of the party and it was cool but you're on stage plan and i'll never forget one time he said to me. Let me tell you something. He's older and i kind of took. What he said seriously said. No one wants to pay someone to get drum. And i didn't really know i mean i kind of knew what he meant. But he was talking specifically about being club owner and paying a bunch of guys to do a show and in drunk and he and he was dead serious he said man. Nobody there's no boss. That's happy that they're paying you and you're getting drunk on their job even if it's that job that they're not happy well it can be humiliating to the bar owner if you if you have a group in there that is underperforming. And they're amusing the well. I think it's it's. I don't know everyone has their own opinion. And i don't like i said i i in my experience you know i've played with guys in that you know. Will they kind of drink or they don't drink are they. This whatever and generally speaking if someone tells you econ we're kind of getting back into that area of people you wouldn't are you know not to work with and i've had people tell me i mean well i really don't feel like i'm complete until i have a couple of beers and that just right there. I'm like well. I'm never going to play with that guy and i mean and that's just me not being prejudice on but i'm but i know like i've played. I don't want to drag anybody into i. There's guys that i played with that. I play them when they were drinking. I play them. When they weren't touring up. Played with them when they were kinda drinking. And every you know every you can't tell me that they did a better job. When i mean almost exclusively when they weren't they think they think they're doing but what it is but what. I don't even know how we got on this subject but it's a shame that it's become a shame. It's interesting to me that it became intertwined know like banner doing shots and all that and when we were like in the in like when the ranch like during that whole ninety s era when we were playing. We actually traveled quite a bit. But we play like those houston clubs and and those vans party man oh yeah party harsher and we never did it all and you'd have your buddies that are another bands. Yeah we party with the crowd and that's what people like and they like it when you interact with them and all this stuff and we didn't do any of that we didn't talk between songs and no no. I don't mean this. I'm not bragging but we were is big abandoned. There was and so at in that little seen so freedom has to do all those things and it wasn't that we were trying to purposely. Not doing it. And i wasn't even looking down my nose even to this day. If they wanna do that's fine. I'm just talking about me. What worked for us. And what i saw work and it's just it's just weird that became. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the whole drugs and rock and roll. And i don't really know the mistake behind are just that you're in a bar. I think it so well from a from a gig perspective. How many shows a year are you personally. Play in across the across the band's man that's good so weird now thinking about it because last year was so crazy on a on a normal conditions. i mean i'm usually playing optician. Oh not even close. We're only playing three days a week. Now okay yeah me. And i mean i'm playing on pretty much every weeknight. We've knowing off tonight. I'm playing on a thursday. We played last sunday. And what's weird about now as it's real it gets real bunched up like normally like mr wonderful is our eighties man. And it's just three guys and we played a tracks and it's kind of a mtv girl band anyway That vampire plays a most. Because there's only three of us and it's pretty easy to to get. It's easier get three guys together to even just go play the show and then our country ban probably plays the next and then our diamond jacker seventies band. It's five guys more money. It's a bigger deal usually would play like twice a month. Okay well like in april. We have like six shows. He's what i'm saying. So he kind of goes her diamond. Jackie fits and starts. They don't really. they don't really so recently. Probably over the last few months you guys added mike mccullough to the the diamond check lineup. Tell us how that came about. I've known mike for some time and Remembering back from the sister. Mary tarantula day so yeah mike don't mind forever. Actually we're was. Mike was one of the first persons Will we left when we got a ranch me in scour talking about doing something and he's one of the first people we call and then is just didn't really and then paul byron was playing with us and he just he was done. He didn't wanna do anymore. corner do whatever he needed to do and so it was a man. It was a no brainer. You know he's just one of those guys. You can play guitar it saying. He's so talented. So that was one of the easiest like okay transition. Yeah i mean we. I a little bit and and we need to rehearse more ban is the one that's hard and it's like deceptively hard because you think you know those songs because you played them so often and then you'll be in the middle of the show going Wait a minute. Is it not here and so we were. We gotta rehearse before our next. We did a show on saint patrick's day and we hadn't played in a while. And we probably should've i and of course it's not again. It's one of those that whole perception like people can't really tell if you just kinda smile and get through it. Ninety percent of the people can't tell you did it but it's kind of a confidence unit you know when you do it on your the thing about the thing. That's weird like the big difference with ranch to. We played two hundred shows a year. You know four days a week sometimes five days a week so like mistakes happened but you immediately got to fix them right away your next day. You're like alligator tomorrow things. And what was weird for me. Was going to these bands like when stacy and i start playing together like it was country one night and then it was A rock and it was it was different and you play a show would just kind of fluff something up and it sucked because it would like you was on your mind for the next three. We can't wait to do that. Against like can make up for that. When i stunk the place up with that you know. are you. See the video. And you're like oh my god. I can't sing that anyway. I got some different right. There and the other thing was really. What's been a challenge for me. Personally i have a terrible memory. Anyway is just lyrics man. I used to 'cause i you know. We used to do song so often. They memorized them in a week. You're done playing him so much that you neum right away and these bands on my me and do i gotta do the ipad. I get you hated do it. But you didn't have a choice you know. I mean you just had to do it. So i have to do is sometimes and what sucks about that is. And that's just me. But i can tell when i'm reading. I can listen recording until you. That's yeah i had to look on. Alvar can hear me. I can't sing in tune anyway. So i don't need something else. Any other distract. If it's any consolation. I was at compaq center and i was watching. I had tickets to see cheap trick aerosmith and it was maybe to my surprise. Maybe surprised me all that much. But i noticed that there were teleprompters off. They look like wedges. The stage and steven tyler is reading the teleprompters. And what does that. Tell us that this guy has been singing. The songs for forty five fifty years ago and rodent still doesn't can't remember. Wait which i went before the Favorite teleprompter story my good friend. George olson used to be the sound engineer for george strait. You know he was the guy right. So george strait has a teleprompter bagel teleprompter right. So he's he's details story about how he doesn't look at it. You don't notice george strait. It doesn't seem like he ever looks at it and they see him on the big screen they say you know george olsen's done hundreds of shows with him but if it goes out he gets all look at it and i'll tell you it's become somewhat of a crutch for me but here's what happens with the teleprompter is you learn how to look at it and it's more of a place like okay. I'm here and it's a glance at it. It's not like you're not reading it like you're reading a book but you're you're saying okay. That's the next you know when you progression. Yeah exactly and with me with us like in like diamond. Jack and our country band is all live tracks. We we don't vary very much but we might change. Something might get changed or whatever but if somebody messes up no big deal but in our eighties band man. We got keyboard tracks and percussion and like we did in him. And you can't mess up no you can't and when people make kind of look down their noses you playing with tracks normally. It's people that have never done it. You know 'cause it's hard and it's and it's nerve-racking wool rhythm. The tempo of the song is everything. Because you can't like slow or speed the track upper armor do it but yeah but that's the one where you like. You have to have a notes because you're like okay does three times and then and then what's funny you'll get mad at like the guy that wrote you know. Relax by. Frankie goes to hollywood. Like why did he added measure. You're like mad at the guy stupid all of a sudden you're some sort of critic about like the one that always cracks me up is a and it's even like really mechanical mod very mechanical stuff sequence everything but their arrangements are always a little weird. Yeah there's a spot where they leave a measure out or do something like those sons vigia mad at him watch ally because now it's not a standard track. Two year i'd the blue felt at the time they only do three. Those what does kent newman do. When you're not on stage or their hobbies pets like sleep. I have a fantastic wife. She's awesome and we spend as much time together as possible remarried for twenty years. What guy what was the anniversary day. Look dude no no. We're not recording the recorders offer more bad about her move on a ryan broadcasts for a long time. So you know she's gonna listen to this and tell me oh. You should've gotten closer the my day while. She's married to me so she's used a disappointment her expectations or an all time low. At this point right is the same way like thirty one years. We've been married. Yeah there's no expectations like people will ask her how she just she'll do that thing where it's like not really answering. It's like a no. I can neither confirm or deny. No she's awesome and we got to spend a lot of time not to the during this whole thing. It was actually. We had a great time. Because i was gone so much of our relationship traveling. Yeah that we really like being together. So that's cool but hobbies. I read a lot. I mean i. I read a lot and Dr seuss your favorite stuff for. Anybody says it's bad for me. That's what i i read a lot. I mean i as much as i can. But i have you know i do a lot of music. I'm usually doing something and it. I enjoy it. I mean there's never. There's not a lot that i have to do that. Feels light hama amadou busy work or i gotta go. Get this radio yeah. It's usually fun her you know. I mean they're things. I'm up against like learn a song or to do something for a song or prepare a lesson from somebody but did very rarely as like just. Oh my god. I do some studio work sometimes and sometimes that's a little you know because will happen is somebody will ask you to do something especially during the When i wasn't playing much in somebody we've got a couple of friends at work in studios all over the country and they'll calls a he man. Can you do this. Can you get all the noise out of these tracks and now we go absolutely. This is something to do. Yeah i do that not knowing what it involved. Yeah so they send man you gotta charge by the hour and you're like there's no way i can charge them. How long this actually me. It took me four hours just to figure out. I'll do it right right so there was a lot of that going on but yeah i don't really ever had to do. They don't want to. I'm a lucky lucky guy. I mean it's the it's been cool. I guess since. I was in the same band for so long. And the thing about the range you got to be a grind mainly just be run. I think having all your eggs in one basket time business. That got hard. Will you definitely have it. Spread out now. And i was going to ask you. Let's see let me let me think about that before. I say it. So mr wonderful diamond jack. So yeah i mean for the most part. Except the duo. All of the band's are generous pacific. Have you guys ever talked about recording your own music as part of those genres like doing doing some country songs or doing some seventy sounding song recorded a lot of stuff originally on his own and we probably will. It's just a weird deal. you don't do. An original music is is writers. Right if you create your doing it you don't think about it. You gotta be a songwriter. You know you just do it or you. Don't do it so when you have a band like with me. I write songs and record them all time. I'll do it for myself. And i have a weird like i'm one of those. I'm not really just dying on my god here. What you got to hear what i did. I usually ride a again kind of get him out of my system just because i wanted to get them recorded. But i'm not like just dying to everybody's got to hear this and then nothing wrong with people that feel that way just the way i am if i really if i'm gonna write a song because i can't not i mean it just. It just has to be done right right. So at this point the reason recorded anything with any of those vans really is the kind of just kind of keep people listening or kinda maybe generate some also thought about it because most dip and i could be you can correct me if i'm wrong but i think well maybe a lot of you guys do that for a living. Music is a living and i'm just thinking about it from a monetize perspective. It's another source of income. You know how i mean. I believe me. I work on projects for people all time. That actually make money in their ryan music and it's soon i don't know that it's a source of income for anybody. You know what i'm saying. Change to me. It's like you're really doing it. You know even like again we. We didn't really really get into this but you know things the way people consume music is first of all very personal every person they had their own thing. But it's just different. I mean like now like if you went back to one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. When everything was based on album sales you know like guys would tour so you would go by their album. Because that's what they were going to make labour supporting the writer and now finally shifted to performance. Where now they have to go play. Kevin fowler's gotta go performed to make money. The recording is just to keep his name in front of people. yeah. I don't know that he's really not goblets kevin fowler. I'm not bad mouthing the guy in the least he's a he's awesome. Yeah but when he records yeah. I don't know if he's making any money on those recordings or i don't know i mean he. I hope he does. I know for a fact like Listing something about like air johnson. Johnson's incredible you know money record. Music sure is only making money performing. He's as good as it gets like. Joe bonomo talks about that all the time. He records just so that he has material. But it's all about put in the face of somebody It's it's kinda. That's again and i don't know it's a weird mon- whenever we start doing every start talking about money always kind of glaze over anyway because of male living in an and make good money and i. I can't do it just because it's going to make me some money. Oh no it has to be You know from the heart does love what you're doing sin sincere. I guess sure. I mean even like we're in ranch you know there was so much back in the day. There was a lot of private parties. And we never did that. There's so much money we didn't make because we'd do one wedding and go. Oh my god. They're gonna pay us like five thousand dollars. Oh my god. This is so great and we'd be so excited and then right in the middle of it we'd be like let's never do the again brian. I don't care how much they're paying and then a month later you go do it again. So it's hard to get motivated to do something just because it's gonna make money but at the same time. Don't get me wrong. You know we have to promote ourselves. We have to you got to keep keep things in front of people. And i think that's our good reason and we've actually just started talking about recently. Mike written a lot of songs we have tons of material. And yeah i imagine we will record something because i can do it at my house. Pretty easy I'm trying to cut back on other things that i'll we'll have time to do that. Specifically what you said. We should. And i think i think people and the way people consume music like. I don't know why people put out albums anymore. I mean really. Everyone only bites off one song at a time any. It's not like it was back in the day where you bought an album a lot of times. The album was conceptual. You know coward concept album or whatever not only but it's the it's the delivery system. Isn't it like now. you can look at know spotify. That's how many times people listen to you know like you don't know how many albums led zeppelin sold. But i don't know how many times people listen to right. I mean it's a completely different way of keeping track of thing agree. It's almost impossible to compare. Now what's crazy about is like if you went back to one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and found somebody that was just getting into music and you had like had an iphone from the future and you said this. This is how many millions of people are listening to music. You would think. Oh my god the music business is going to be bigger than ever was and it's just not it's not just the because the delivery systems is different. There's not a mechanism to create rockstars. Like there was on radio. Yup not like there was and it's just it's just different. I don't again i don't ever wanna be those wounds to be better. It's just different if you go. I was showing a kid a video the other day it was it was a peter frampton right like the texas jam or something right and there's one hundred thousand people and there's little bit peer. Nobody even you can't even tell who it is. He's so far away and everybody's there for because it's the event and there listening to his songs. There's not even a jumbotron there. Isn't that what you were there. Four there was but it was so cheesy definition to it at all. So you didn't even know what you look. There's no way that many people would go to see something like that. It's just it's just different. It's not better or worse it. It is we'll probably record some. It's so easy to record now that there's really not a good reason not to well. No you could almost produce in your your own home if you know what you're doing same quality that you're going to get an a. On music row in nashville. Right the ranch thing we did. I recorded all of it at my house. Most other than some vocals and some other stuff and ernie wells helped us out along. I mean it's not a it's easy you know what's interesting to me about that. Is i remember every technology step. Like i'm like when drum machines became a thing right nearby is like oh my god you know. They're gonna. They're going to replace drummer so they're going to Now everybody's gonna make an or four track recorders came out now. My everybody's going to record stuff and they didn't. Yeah it was available. But i think the number of actually motivated talented people has kind of stayed the same otherwise we would be just inundated. I would think with stuff. You know what i mean. You have to be pretty motivated last brad. Think of all the stuff all the motivation. He had to have to go to all of those steps and everybody all and they'll beal could've done that. Well you could have done that but did you do it. It's the same thing as watching a performer. Like if you go to a coffee shop and you see a guy. And he's got a tip jar and he's up there and he's got a speaker on a stake in. He's hammering through a bunch of songs there so many musicians. It'll be like i. I could do that matter. Or you know or look down their nose but that guy is doing it yeah. There's a lot that he had to do to get to that point and you have to hand it to somebody that got that far with it. Yeah i mean it's not again just because you can do. It doesn't mean you're going to be able to do what a lot of people don't know is the same amount of work goes into that. That goes into being in a band. You have to show you have to learn the songs you have to you have to deliver the songs you have to load and load out. I mean there's no there's no difference just one person versus four people right. That's nearly the big difference from that and it's just that that that's probably the kind of the nature of allow musicians. It's very easy. I guess look down your nose if anything alcohol. I could have done that or i. Well yeah you but whatever excuse exactly. It's kind of like guys that he played sports in college professional. It's kind of the same thing that doesn't really mean anything. It just you know you got to have respect for anybody that goes to that much trouble to perform well and i told my son brandon when i started finally getting him kick in the pants to get out and play some shows with means a great lead guitarist. I said brandon. Keep in mind that if there's one hundred people in this place tonight ninety nine point seven of them cannot do what you do jerry and if they could they would be like you said they would be were. Winter show wins your next show her spirit critic but yet where you booked again. When's your next show is kind of the mindset the other part of that or the guys that actually do play a lot and still act like it's no big deal kind of look down their nose at the at the actual activity they're doing like oh we're just gonna get up there and you know we gotta sit in bass player and we're just gonna like why go to all that trouble and you know what i'm saying. Finish not take it to the next eiger i. That's another thing is like if you're gonna do it if you're going to be a cover like they're in a cover band but then they look down their nose a cover band doing the same. That's the call the kettle that. But there's no okay. Look everybody gets tired of a song or tired of doing everything. It doesn't matter what you do. You're going to get tired of anything you get fatigued but the fact of the matter is really part of your job as a professional musician. If that's what you're trying to be is to kind of make that sincere in new again. Sure you know that you know. I mean yeah. I'm tired of hearing sweet home alabama. But that doesn't mean it's not a fantastic songs act has nothing to do. It's still a know hotel california's a masterpiece i get. I wouldn't listen to it on the radio but that is just because of my perception of it doesn't make it any less awesome. I agree with that. So let's real quick. Let's talk about on the the gear you use on stage. Is there a goto guitar for you know you played multiple ones. But is there one working guitar. That i'm more right now. I have to tars for each band. You know like the two. I take just for that show or they all different guitars different guitars for every show. 'cause like in my country band play telecasters eighties ban. I play those guitars are a little hall because everything kind of had that sound. Even if it wasn't rock and roll it had that kind of pushed sat down my seventies bands. And celeste paul mistrial. And they're kind of vintage e so you know there. It's pretty much different tools for different bands but use the same. I use a practical exit amp. I don't have a real anthony more. And what about. What about from a potter pedal percents okay. It's it's everything it's young it's all the effects and what's cool about that is with three different bands. It's all three different. Everything's completely program for. That's that's really cool. And is there a guitar string of choice. That is your go to or do you just put whatever if certain gauge or abuse da. Just because i've always used them. That's an uncoded stirring right. I have no idea pretty fast. I do know that. I like the balanced tension strings. That's a news of any kind of weird are not weird but like the newest technology that just i guess over the past few years. I do like those. Yeah i don't know why. And i play lighter strings now when i was in play. Eleven or twelve rookie. Now i don't i just don't wanna work that hard. It's an ask beaten on the fingers right. I play a lot like in our country band. I play the most leads. So that's when. I went to lighter strings because i play the guitar all night and then also and i'm like well just put this on all of them so there's a couple of songs that you guys need to learn for. Diamond jack yeah. Yeah i'm i'm giving you that's right But it was funny. Because i had one on here and when i went to see you guys not too long ago. You're you're actually doing that song so to act like i'm putting it on my phone but i'm just looking cat video. Okay so caleb. I'm marie million eighty s. okay miss. Oh yeah ali by donnie. Our well so it's Yeah so well. And i don't. I don't really care which ban does say. Let let me clarify doing both of those songs. I'm pretty sure yeah see. I'm not so dumb after all again. Okay go for a soda by kim mitchell. That would be a great long. There was a band that did they redid that song. Kind of a weird not weird. It's not weird at all. It's kinda that modern kind of con- is kind of but it sounds really really good one Baby come back by player would be a good one from for diamond jack and maybe how long by ace. That was pretty cool. We've always wanted to do not always in what i'm saying but one thing we've talked about doing stacy's a huge like yacht rock. He loves stuff right and we were like me. If there was ever band not that we would start a whole nother project but we thought maybe some kind of diamond. Jack yacht rock ny talk especially now with mike being such a. He's such a great piano player. You know and there's so many of those songs that lynn themselves that like we started doing what a fool believes. Oh yeah grind the stuff that we do know. It's kind of yacht rocky. What a full believes ride like the wind. You and i can't remember. There's lonesome loser kind of have that kind of relaxed kind of. Yeah so yeah. That's good stuff though for sure. That's my prediction. I think next. I know there are a couple of bands and there's even like a national axe there white yacht rock bands. But i have a feeling that's going to be the next. That'd be cool. Did those radio stations are like the most popular one The yup smooth sailing. I agree with you outside of the four bands. We talked about any new projects coming up band wi no way doug monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday and sunday. I mean we're on when else can you. Can you work so moving right along. I we're going to wrap here pretty quick. Because i know you have a show at mahoney's tonight in the woodland's great place. We saw mr wonderful play out there to what two or three weeks ago. Charity came out and brattleboro came out. Yep and what about where the listeners can find you and the band on social media. Well there under the names. All the band's diamond jack Mr wonderful chugging road and then also there stacey actually we still have a website of your remember those but it's space space city band dot com just dot net. I believe i. I love to be stumped go ahead. Let's look what it says. No space city bands dot com. Isn't okay well now. The dumb ass. That's all right. i had. I didn't even know so. I looked like all of his his solo gigs. He got tired. Because stacy keeps it all together man. He's engine and he does. That's what i don't understand. He does like you know plays bass in one band. Plays guitar on one band plays drums really. So yeah well you got. Everybody has to have that guy in the man. that's good though. Because you feel like a slacker. He keeps everybody on track. So let's do some quick fire questions. Then we'll get out of here. So beatles stones beatles van halen or hendrix van halen here you go summer or winter winter. Tv or radio. I don't really listen to roy tv. Because i don't even listen to the radio. Tell everybody i turned it off in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. There's i guess. What does that perfect vacation. Oh my god with my wife really. We can have fun. Not even going these meghan orlando we can edit that part out but we gotta get right digs lovely wife beth new and there you know. Yeah anything with hers. Good strat or telecaster man. There was a time. When i would've said strat immediately but of had the play on telecaster so much more proud stratton heartbeat man. Because you can kind of make a strat almost damn near anything if you play if you have the one and you've played it long enough. Yeah it's hard to be man. What about les. Paul or strength. I even a i like my i have. I thought it was a les. Paul guy for so long and i had know how many owned will a lot less balls but i have one. It's a less paul custom that i and it's like if you had if i had to have a favor. Guitar probably is my favorite guitar. But it doesn't really sound like any other les paul. So i think that's what would happen is that was my. It's real bright and twangy. And every time i would get less. Paula just sounds dead to me. Because i was comparing it to that. Yeah so there's a saying that as you get older you want a less paula. Sounds like a telecaster and telecaster. This sounds like a les paul and what that means you want a telecaster. You want something. That's twangy enough like a les paul. That hasn't of twang where you can actually hear the notes and a telecaster. You don't want it so twenty. You don't hear you want to kind of beefy right. So yeah but yeah. I love my les paul. i'm it. I'm not much of an electric guy but i'd through my sons over my shoulder not too long ago his les paul and i couldn't believe how heavy that guitar is different. Mazing kinda heavy. I don't know wait. What wait some guy's lighter tar sound better than having. I know 'cause. I've heard bad sounding heavy guitars and ray sounding heavy guitars. I do guitars. That are a little heavier. I don't like super super guitar. Just throws me off. I used to have gym. That sounded really good. But maybe i don't know what is made out of but it was just too light. I just could not play well early. Bird or night owl. How favorite place to play and you can plead the fifth on that If you like. Because i know sometimes we don't want to hurt the places that we play feeling like i really like playing jackie's brickhouse because all of our bands play there. So that makes it cool. And i've just i've known john the gm forever and maybe just comfort zone. Yeah i know what to expect. Charlie's a good guy. And i think i think you know when if you don't john john and i were best friends forever and live together for a while. Oh yeah john and cairn cairns great awesome. Yeah we we did a lot of bad things together. And that's another podcast for for another time. How 'bout favorite song to play live. And i don't think i have one probably the bieber tunes. They just all kind of come and go if it sounds good man. I don't care what it is. You know if you're if it's a song you don't even there are times when you learn a song because just everybody else wanted to learn and you're like oh man and then you play it in san and he's not even crowd reaction none of that. You just sound so good. You're like yeah. We should've yup. That was a good move formal training or play by ear. I don't think there's a difference in a way. I don't think formal. I don't think you have to choose in a way. Because i don't know. Let me put it this way. I don't know anyone who ever had a really good ear. Who didn't benefit from some training. Does that make any sense like well. I think we're i'm going. My question is if you put four quarter notes on staff right right and you ask a musician. Eight of them would probably tell you. I have no idea what that means right. So that's what. I mean by formal training a theory trained or play by ear and i would say i'm a hybrid of reith right. The older i get it sounds weird. The more i kind of because the thing about theory and when i give lessons there's theory and practical theory. I agree and i'll get like these young guys especially only about modes and i'm like why don't you don't even know how to spell that work. I mean a lot of a lot of your trump. i mean a lot of Theories kind of reverse engineering life. As like the suzuki method when they teach those little biddy three year old kids how to play violin. Everyone has to learn by ear. I think anyways. That's what i meant by the difference. You have to learn how to play by ear. Oh i don't think you have a choice. So i think it's weird. You get those guys at that. Look down their nose at like somehow. Musical theory is going to make them less of a musician. Ridiculous that's like being a rider and going okay. I know all the words i need. I don't need to learn any. I don't even extend my vocabulary at all. That's ridiculous you gotta have as many tools in your toolbox as you possibly can. Yeah i never and you'll never have it figured out otherwise you won't ever evolve as -sition and you you have to get to that point where you do realize that were there's no you unlearn -able. Yeah there's no amount that's going to make you the best or whatever. Yeah and you never endless how it's endless always. There's always stuff. I learned and i go which i would've known that before. Wow look i can do that. Also exactly number one influential musician or band queen. What by when you're talking about formative years and it would be. Yeah no doubt about it. Yeah i mean everything about exactly. They're all of the camaraderie the combination of people coming together and making something greater than any individual. You know you had those guys. They were also good. And then you had freddie mercury who is and that's it l. another planet you. He really was Emotionally The way everything everything about what he did was amazing. Yeah i agree. They were phenomenal ban. And i think the older. I get the more i enjoy them. They're kind of like the stones. I never was into the stones early. But i've really grown to love their music on years and everything has a different perspec- you have different perspective but that is definitely one where every time i go back and i'm like okay. Yeah that was. do you think well. Maybe i was a kid and it wasn't that great exactly. What was the one. The i used to really be in the ted nugent house. Look and you know. I got out of it. Exists gotta y like that just seems like something you outgrow. Wanna thank against. I love him. You know what i'm saying. He just that was the way i felt the time. Now listen to this. So i went and listened to came remember. I think it was like the free for all album and it was so good like it's me loaf singing on it and you're like wow this is really good you know. That's another great artist. Yeah sometimes you go back and it's horrible. What the hell was i thinking. But why you go yeah. That was pretty bad. He is the motor city madman for sure last question. Greatest podcast on the internet. I haven't done it yet. Do i get a t-shirt. Yeah yeah there's one come they're being made now. Let's make one where a small right. Well i want thank you for joining the show. I asked the listeners alike. Share and subscribe to the podcast. Please also do a review on the show. If you'd be so kind that will always help boost the ratings and and get the word out to people when they're looking for a good quality interview with great musicians. I think that puts us at the top of the heap if we have a great review a great rating. So if you'll be so kind to do that. I would always appreciate it. I wanna make sure that you is follow. Kent in the band's diamond. Jack mr wonderful. The duo and bay city bands dot com shotgun road. Countryman's and shotgun road for sure and then we need another disclaimer. at the end of. This says that guy didn't know what he was talking about. It don't don't don't believe any of it right right and then so at thanks to the listeners for joining if you wanna find the show you can find it on facebook at backstage. Pass radio podcasts on instagram at backstage pass radio and on the website that backstage pass radio dot com. And you guys take good care of yourself and get out there and support the bands and we hope to see you again soon. Thanks randy thank you. Thanks so much for joining us. We hope you enjoyed today's episode of backstage pass. Radio make sure to follow randy on facebook and instagram at randy hosie music and on twitter at our palsy. Music also made sure to life subscribe and turn on alerts for upcoming podcasts. 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"They were so talented. And it didn't matter back in the thirties. Exactly so yeah you and there were probably some people that were like a rare articles by christopher cross. You know he was remember. That's how you won a grammy. He was at whatever year that was that was it san antonio boy and he always talks about how he just. It was right before the visual era. And he just isn't a. I mean he's just a dude as a good looking guys abnormal looking guys. He's fingers you're out of his head but he i mean and these are his words. I'm not saying but he said he was just a little. That was just that era and then you had that magical weird time where it all worked like a youtube good looking people. The police Duran duran i mean you can say what you want about duran but those guys took their that was. They were serious about that. Know so it all worked kinda worked together but that was when the visual you know again. The that's where you're saying like when we grew up it was not the visual part of it was something but it wasn't all you now. You can almost kind of almost always think about that for sure. You almost can't separate it at all and you'd always hear about i remember. I gave a great example. We went and saw the cars. This was like the candy. Oh album came out and we love the cars and these are like all musician buddies who use other great so we go see him in austin and we had no idea they were like a chick ban they were like benjamin order like the most beautiful creature ever said and these women are just like. We didn't know at all really. This is the have that appeal. We think about that. You know so it wasn't that we were disappointing. But you're just like okay. I guess right but it's true. I mean it's just a and everybody makes it's about the i dunno performance or it's about sincerity. You look like a guy like rick springfield you think of being more about image than music right man they. Nobody's more serious about music than rick springfield he. He's he lives and dies. Songwriting you he just pretty man. He's a rockstar. Have you ever go see rich. Springfield live even if you're not a fan but it's on a great show. God you guys should be. I think the media has taken it. I mean you look at american idol and the voice. you know. there's some fantastic singers that are like you said. Have a face for radio but when i think when these people are signing talent you have to have the appeal to. I think that's part of it is part of the marketing of the music. And here. here's a crazy thing. Is i see a lot of The the artists that i follow on instagram specifically and some of the female artists. Every picture you see on post on instagram is almost like it's like a glamour shot and how about how about singing a song or your musician. So and so music. How about singing a song and showing us your talent. I don't yeah you you're beautiful and everything but it's like that has preceded the whole talent thing. I'm beautiful but oh i play a little guitar too ended tricky. I mean it's again. I don't i don't know i mean everything's just different. You know music in general consume so differently than it used to be. Yes that was. That's the thing that. I think being older that i just i would never pretend to be some kind of historian like a kept track of it. But i've seen it. I actually have played music since there was nothing like that. I mean i remember the first time i saw four track recorder. You know up until now was actually create an album with no one. So i've seen i've been in. I've lived in an interesting transitional time and has kinda done it the whole time. A lot of people will either adapt or die or just quit doing it. Because it's not the way they want to do it so they say i wanna do it anymore. Yes or or some people adapt. They don't really get good at it until they adapt like i don't know how to say this but like i have friends that were not that are like in production now and they really kept up with the technology and now they have jobs and they're doing stuff but they might not have the best year they just knew exactly to run the machine. The best you know guys didn't talk real quick to the listeners about bands that were pre wrapped ranch where what can't do in pre pre right ranch and i know you are with ranch a long time but what happened was it was every. I think everybody has a weird. They think their stories weird. But i i play in the emotions which was a fantastic group like fifteen and sixteen because those guys were all like twenty. I'd been in like high school band. And when i and the where the way that's relevant. I mean like i'd been in groups of people trying to create music. I've been in jazz ban stuff like that. So the first rule band. I was in was a bunch of big country. Boys from shire. Do don't do that. And i think when you're fifteen or sixteen that's what you need. You need somebody kind of telling you know man. Don't you know it's like the old a lot of my most respected musicians. I've ever play with kind of said the same thing. And when i say respected i mean guys that were way. More talented than me and had a lot more complex than they. They would all a few of them have said to me. My one of my best. My best friend. David simpson when we we grew up playing together and he played piano and i play guitar and i learned a lot every pretty much everything i knew about music up until we quit working together all from david and are just from having a communicate with them but he was a great musician and he could play anything but he would say something like no. It's not can you play it. It's should you play. Yes and i think. I learned not that i always knew what the play. I would never pretend that i ever learned that lesson but i just was all. I was from a very early age. Like the i bands our was in our in. I was in those guys were they were. They didn't let you just do whatever you want it. You know and i think you kind of need that when you say maybe not everybody but i already kind of jammed already kind of gotten that out of my system that you know just doing. I'm gonna just do what. I wanna do right at a very early age kind of gotten past that yes and i kinda immediately had already thinking in that one guy playing something awesome or like when you're talking about like the voice or american idol. You see one person doing something in the they've spent a million hours and they're really really good at it and it's impressive. There's no doubt about it. But i was always more impressed. You know by everyone. Doing you know like a band like us. Because it's rarer to this day it's rare you go see a band and you know i've said this and i don't know i'm probably not the first person to say but five guys all playing the same song as an that's doesn't mean it's a ban and even when i was in for thirty years i like we'd all be on the same page and just it just couldn't have been better four guys or even five and then a month later it was just horrible. It's not even a lot of it's just timing. You know and people's attitudes at the time but so before range they're really. I kinda had quit. I really wasn't doing it at all. And then when that started back up the philosophy was this. I don't know if this is a good win or not but was no plan. B like these. I already had a job. And i was doing something. So the guys that wanted to start this ban. We're doing anything. So i was like okay. I'm going to quit what i'm doing. I'm gonna quit working with my dad. I'm gonna give all this up. That i know is money in my bank account to do this. So everyone's gotta do it for a living. At least we'll have that in common. Yeah you know that if we don't all agree on everything we at least all have to make a living doing this some common. No plan b if you have a plan b. go do plan b. Yeah and in my life and that was one of the advantages to get into it. I wasn't a kid. That point a kid but i was my late twenties so i kind of approach it'll differently. I didn't it was like it's not gonna fail. It's just not yup. I i i've done things long enough and done enough research and gone and seen other bands ago. Okay i know what works what doesn't work and the one thing i learned or not that i learned but i i noticed right away was you can't create something that's not there and what i mean by that like like you had your ford especially when it's a small band like four or five guys. They're going to do what they do And they're gonna all have strengths and weaknesses. Got a play to those. Yeah you can't hire like if your keyboard player leaves. You can't fill that guy's roles exactly. It was correct so we would always adapt like every time we would lose a member or change it. Would you know what does that guy do. You know exactly what he does and whatever he does good. That's what we're gonna do. Well ranch formed by think back and eighty nine. Is that correct. And what did the original lineup look like for it was drums bass guitar and keywords in Everybody's saying for guys. You know like. I said were in victoria so we would travel. You know we get a gigging corpus. We get in austin so we had a lot of places to choose from. Yeah and it was a different again. I'll say this a lot. It was just things were different than there. Were probably more fulltime. I want to say fulltime bands. There were there. Were more bands back then without a doubt because more people just went out to see bands like you could go up and down the yon- sixteen austin do thousands of people out every night of the week. Not just the weekends. I mean you. Probably inserted. Sunday at maggie maze. And there'd be four hundred people so there was a mechanism to keep those bands working. Yup you know. How would you say that the set list. The song choices changed when i think the original singer was mark is that it was me and malcolm our original. While it was the three of us was pretty even look at when mark russell joined that was a fifth guy okay and he and he became more of a lead singer just because we kinda felt like we he was a he played guitar too but we kind of had felt like we needed that like we needed a more of a focus in just something to sing lead. Yeah that's kind of the way it happened but really with mark on a personally. I mean i wanted mark in the ban because he was just so serious about it. Yeah i mean he was serious and he still is. He's one of those guys that i knew that. I don't bands are tricky. I mean they're like any other relationship. They're they're very very complicated. But i've always felt like if you had at least have two guys. They're really really on the same page. Yeah you can. You can drive the drive. The ship that way. Well i was just curious. Like 'cause i remember when mark was with the band. If my memory serves me correctly there was quite a bit of things. Like sticks. And i remember rush. Yeah and and then he left and it went four piece. I think yeah and then some of those songs fell out. And i'm assuming i mean. Of course you have to adapt to what the the lead vocalist is capable of being right. They can't pull off every artist golota in that particular case We're doing. we're doing originals. Into so we were thinking in along those lines but also you know everything kind of runs. Its course like it sounds funny but there was a time whenever mark was in the band when that kind of music like now i have abandoned some seventies rock man. That's all we plays that kind of stuff but at the time you know there weren't a lot of bands at did that and that's kind of why we wanted. We thought you know what we like. Some of our favorite music we wanna play journey and russian and stuff so we kind of got him. In the band do that and he became. It wasn't a novelty but we did pretty well if the band was suited to doing that kind of stuff you know people really liked it. We did it and we were playing a lot so when he left in some of those songs. Kinda got retired and this through. Nobody's planning this is just highness happen. We had to learn a lot of new songs and we had a lot of learning more current sauces. We play anything current for a while so we were learning like blink one eighty two and all of a sudden that was when it was a big deal will. The reaction was huge to that because all of a sudden they're all my god i'm people are not they're never going to tell you they don't like what you're going to do with playing that song but when we did quit they're all my god. I'm so playing that now and it's just so much better. It wasn't better. No it's just different different. Yeah and So yeah we just kind of had again because we had to adapt to yes. I think Later on scott holding join our band and he was a like a kind of a. He's a great singer but he could sing like that kind of he added that to kinda high screaming voice. He could do a lot of stuff. We can do audio slave stuff like that and that's when it was a big deal so we adapted and we started doing stuff you just have to have to win and i think that that's a great segue into walking into the now with current bands you know. Let's talk about those so you have shotgun road you have the still newman do. Oh you have Mr wonderful you have diamond jack which happens to be my favorite of all of them. I just maybe. I'm just a seventies kind of guy that music just resonates with me. Diamond jackson kelly your favorite. Because i do the least well. You heard it first ladies and gentlemen all you listeners. I didn't want to say it but has confirmed the obvious. And i'm just sexy and that s my only purpose every ban has fabrio right. Yeah i think the brel brett brett was it and rat ranch while right and know what happened was again. Those are bands. That kinda they will like. Stacy already had his theory. Won't stacey stills. he's the best man and that was a relationship. That really helped me when i got out orange because he had his vision for his country ban which was classic country. It's like eighty nineties country and that's just as you know what he's really into and we were finding that it was it worked. You know he was right. I mean people like that kind of music. We ended up and with that with our country band. You know there's a lot of how i put this. There's bans is still kind of bill. Say their country band. They'll say us and they still want to try to be like a variety being. They still kind of want to be everything to everybody. Get away from it and that's okay. I'm not. I'm not look. It's if it works for them. I'm not gonna say they're anybody's doing anything wrong. There's no one way to do it but for us. We kinda san thought about it and we're lying you know we like to rock songs and it's all country you know and what we found again. No one's going to come up to you and man you guys suck it when we get any kind of complimentary one of the ones that we get. A lot is over so glad. 'cause y'all just do deaths which do do country right. We're playing in a country bar it's like actual guy can play the wobble. The dj complained that stuff. That's what for that's the point is and i think people kind of took to that and nowadays everything's so pigeonholed. I mean the tribute band thing. People kinda wanna know what they're going to get and i think that's why tribute bands are such a big deal right now. So variety bands are just. You know it's just not like it used to be you know. Play everything like what was cool about that and it was a band of its era. The thing that we did in a rare ranch where we'd probably we did anything right was we didn't man. You never knew what the hell when we play anything. Yeah and that was cool because because it really opened up we can play anything and the only criteria we had in that band was. Can we make it sound. Worth a damn does sound good. Are people going to know it. That's it and i think i'm not gonna say song. Selection is an important because it obviously is. But if there's one thing i kinda learn. I think i've learned but for me it works. Is that the main thing is can you make it sound good. Then the next thing is are people going to kind of know it. I really my kind of know it. i mean. it doesn't have to be the most popular song but they kinda either like your band or they don't they make up their mind pretty quick so even if you're up there playing their favorite music and they don't like you that's actually worse because you more like i can't believe it. I love this song. Why are they playing the song. So and so. What i mean by that is if you have a focus is that seemed to have that seems to have helped with these bands. What we have now is right saying having. We didn't wanna. I don't wanna be an attribute. Man that i didn't wanna be one but i didn't nothing really comes to mind and there's a lot of great tribute band but you know. We started doing the diamond. Jack thing and scott madigan's in that one for my ranch and we started talking about it and we were just kind of like we'll just nothing after one thousand nine hundred eighty man. Let's just keep it all seventies and see what we got at the guys in it just lend themselves to that kind of stuff perfectly exactly worked out great awesome. So would you say that of of the. I think four or five four bands four things. Yeah that's that's three more than i do. Is there one in. It's not a slight on any of the players in any of them. That's not why mask this question but does one of the band's genres register resonate better with you as a musician like the seventies or the eighties. I mean what i mean. It's unique. I get different and i like. I don't know man and everybody's unique mixture of chemicals but like for me. It's i mean. I like playing everything i mean. Always have mean it's just it's fun to be in a good band and you know what it doesn't really matter what you're playing you know. So that's all i care about are they. Do they sound good. You know. I mean and it's fun to play things at different. The country band was it wasn't it wasn't challenging. Because i kind of already knew what the play. And i had to learn. I just had to learn so many songs i wasn't familiar with. That was hardest part of that van. I don't because historically you aren't probably a country country western ever played it. I mean. I like everything and i was growing up. I probably the first people that i saw playing guitar. That i liked country. Guys like glen campbell and jerry. Jerry was as big influence on anybody when i was little because he was having so much. Fun yeah great picker. Everything about him was you. Were just like i want to do that. And i think that's what i'm looking for in a band is just as when you're in a band your job is just creating namath's fear i mean that's i agree with us all you're doing and so i think as long as those every band's doing that and whatever atmosphere is creating that's that's the point of it yup. It didn't that if you're original cover as a matter of doing the same thing really yup and and you touched on it a little bit earlier. You're doing some guitar instruction on your maybe on your own and through the school of raw. Can you do score a couple of days. Do like tuesday saturday. And that's and i love it. It's awesome not a slide against the but mainly because it just right my house so it's so easy to do and then of course i got a tat and you get attached to people and yeah. It's hard to not do it anymore. Not that i would. Never i would ever stop but i i would never do more than that and i'm assuming is just guitar that you're you're you're teaching your thing. I learned there right. you wanna do keyboard. Can you teach keyboards like will again. I yeah i could. But sure i'm not gonna you know well for the listeners are you. Are you taking new. Students are you. Looking for new students allowed really. I know things are picking back up from from covert a little bit and you guys are getting back out on the stage Which is gonna keep you busy but Wanted to make sure that if there were listeners. Out there that were looking for lessons We wanted to make sure to plug how how to find. You rightly the only ones doing privately. That i still do or like songwriting. Housing guys with ryan songs. According i've done a lot of i got a lot of recording on logic since they invented logic. I've been using so so. That's just one of those things where i've given i give There's a buddy of mine in dallas. Soon now we just started out as just friends just working all stuff and now he actually you know actually help him here and there but yeah it's just hard to. It's hard to find time. I i don't want to. I like to work with somebody. That has a specific goal. You know like they're learning. They wanted to get this thing. Done a good friend of ours. It was She wanted to sing in her wedding. You know she had a goal. Want sure absolutely made it cool. Well how long have you been associated with school. Arado about three years four years yeah operation. I mean it's so cool to to see. I mean it's a cool concept and it's it's music in a i don't know how to put it. It's a very it's just a it's just the attitude of it is is good. I think you know dorte like the teamwork and stuff. And i mean it's just a good. It's just a good concept because really to me. Like even when i give lessons for right now i got teenage boys at school rockin and you know they play guitar the rest of their life. You know whatever. I don't you know they're going to end up being whatever they're gonna be but i think anybody. That's i think the best thing that i learned from playing guitar. It's providing with the living and it's been fantastic and absolutely love to do it. Every time i get to go do it but it was. It's a challenge and it you never master it. Yeah like when. I get people lessons. I'm like this is like a rubik's cube with an infinite number of tiles because you're always learning new things about it. And i think anytime you pursue something like that. That's just good for your soul your your character. Especially if you're young like i said like boy saying to me. I was mad at my aunt. Because she said i was. You know she kind of took away the amount of work he put into exactly you know so. Hopefully that kind of work ethic not that i would ever try to teach somebody at work ethic but it the way it was explained to me one time and i thought it was great. Was that if you want to do something because it's fun within play a game on your phone. That stuff is designed to be detained but playing guitar is fun but it's a worthwhile all of the sacrifice you make to do. It is fun is part of it. That's just a part of blink and it's such a weird thing to make a living. Doing something is fine settings. It's like playing sports or something people they never they always kind of. Think it's a phase right when your family liberal up one day ten and cut your hair and get a real job at the you know the the mart or whatever the reason is because when they see what you're doing and you're the ultimate product of it is fun you're in you're putting on a show but they don't realize it all the work. Was you know. Ninety percent of it was not you. Don't see it and going back to the teaching thing. I think you can get kids involved with. I don't have any kids. So what would i know but that shows them that the work is worth it. you know. it's worth the best students are always the ones that have been like a musical theater or band where they're used to like working at it but then we had those kids like a like you have the school rock they put together these shows and you'll have a theme like punk rock or whatever. I don't direct the shows ever but mike mccullough from a diamond. Jackie we're player. He directs them and he always laughs about it to these kids will be like. Oh my god. I'm so sick of this song. You know you don't get to be sick of song That's not your. You can't play it until you're sick of it. You have to teach curbing until repetitive. This whole thing of you. Don't practice until you get it right you practice until you can't get it wrong and i still play stuff wrong constantly because you're still going to mess it up email but if you ever have a kid that's been like a musical theater which being nobody works harder than those people. Yeah who is it. Thirty people making one thing. It's not about how you feel about it. Yeah i agree. And i was always told to. I tried to instill this into my son brandon. Who's playing a lotta shows with me now. You get better. When you collaborate with other musicians and play with other musicians you can be The stevie ray vaughan king in your bedroom right but pushing him out on the stage and it's like a stage fright and it's like you just have to. You have to get out there. You have to experience you have to do it and once you do you look back six months from now and you say to really. Wasn't that big of a deal is just the unknown that we're afraid of and again i think you you hone your talent and you get better when you learn from other people and not. Just stay secluded by herself. And sometimes that's learning what not to do exactly not being negative but it's true. I mean especially like. I've been playing for so long. I mean i've learned more from people that have had to get rid of or you know where on my okay. Why what made that unpleasant. And then i don't wanna do that. Y'all don't be that guy even just something simple like drink or drunk you know i mean i. I never really did. I was never a big drinker. But after i played with guys who were then i was like man. There's i don't wanna be that guy exact thin any unfortunately in in especially in like a local music scene or people that are hobbyists when they're not actual and nothing against people that do as a hobby or they do it part time because they could still do a professional job of it but basically some guys play because they can get drunk. You have a bar tab. Where i'm not even joking about. I mean there are people that have that career because they can be an drinkers drink and might even looking down on. I'm not even. I'm not even looking down. Drinking people are time for drinking. I'm just talking about when it you know affects your performance and they tell themselves a dozen and they rationalize it just like anybody that drinks a lot does but you know like that was the other thing is i would always get. Why would never pretend to know how to run a club or manager book bands or any of that stuff and stuff. I've always kind of dumb. But i would never do it from a living but you know i heard too many club owners complain about those guys. Yeah because we didn't like in romance. We were pretty straight so they'd be like oh my god i mean we were like it when you all your because you don't get drunk and that's just so that's kind of depressing when you think about it. Why would you be praised for something you should do anyway. I know you wanna cookie. Well i never been to prison. Your so they would. They would tell me that. And so i'd hear all. I mean these are really good club owners guys that were did a great job of and own their own club and they would be drunk but they own perogatives. You're you're the employee your hard help. And and that's interesting. You say that. Because i won't mention the name of the place that i play but for a while at this place it was you know all of your food for the musicians was taken care of all all of your dreams. Were taking care of all night long and it got to a point. And i'm like you. I might have a beer here. And there are many of the micro breweries and rarely. Do i go in there. I just. I just don't probably because i don't wanna feel like shit for four days after that even if i drink when but but my point is there was groups and bands that have come in there and abuse that so much that the owner says no more no more. It's like well wait a minute. That was kind of part of my deal. That i worked out with you and now i'm getting stripped of that because somebody else's abuse it so you're always going to have those people i think and then you're never going to get away from that one time Ricky phones a club in tyler rix on the square and he's owned it forever and he's an awesome club. Owner any hardworking guy takes incredible pride and one time and he would be trouble. No no offense. Rick you hear this but brick like to drink at his uncle if he's the host of the party and it was cool but you're on stage plan and i'll never forget one time he said to me. Let me tell you something. He's older and i kind of took. What he said seriously said. No one wants to pay someone to get drum. And i didn't really know i mean i kind of knew what he meant. But he was talking specifically about being club owner and paying a bunch of guys to do a show and in drunk and he and he was dead serious he said man. Nobody there's no boss. That's happy that they're paying you and you're getting drunk on their job even if it's that job that they're not happy well it can be humiliating to the bar owner if you if you have a group in there that is underperforming. And they're amusing the well. I think it's it's. I don't know everyone has their own opinion. And i don't like i said i i in my experience you know i've played with guys in that you know. Will they kind of drink or they don't drink are they. This whatever and generally speaking if someone tells you econ we're kind of getting back into that area of people you wouldn't are you know not to work with and i've had people tell me i mean well i really don't feel like i'm complete until i have a couple of beers and that just right there. I'm like well. I'm never going to play with that guy and i mean and that's just me not being prejudice on but i'm but i know like i've played. I don't want to drag anybody into i. There's guys that i played with that. I play them when they were drinking. I play them. When they weren't touring up. Played with them when they were kinda drinking. And every you know every you can't tell me that they did a better job. When i mean almost exclusively when they weren't they think they think they're doing but what it is but what. I don't even know how we got on this subject but it's a shame that it's become a shame. It's interesting to me that it became intertwined know like banner doing shots and all that and when we were like in the in like when the ranch like during that whole ninety s era when we were playing. We actually traveled quite a bit. But we play like those houston clubs and and those vans party man oh yeah party harsher and we never did it all and you'd have your buddies that are another bands. Yeah we party with the crowd and that's what people like and they like it when you interact with them and all this stuff and we didn't do any of that we didn't talk between songs and no no. I don't mean this. I'm not bragging but we were is big abandoned. There was and so at in that little seen so freedom has to do all those things and it wasn't that we were trying to purposely. Not doing it. And i wasn't even looking down my nose even to this day. If they wanna do that's fine. I'm just talking about me. What worked for us. And what i saw work and it's just it's just weird that became. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the whole drugs and rock and roll. And i don't really know the mistake behind are just that you're in a bar. I think it so well from a from a gig perspective. How many shows a year are you personally. Play in across the across the band's man that's good so weird now thinking about it because last year was so crazy on a on a normal conditions. i mean i'm usually playing optician. Oh not even close. We're only playing three days a week. Now okay yeah me. And i mean i'm playing on pretty much every weeknight. We've knowing off tonight. I'm playing on a thursday. We played last sunday. And what's weird about now as it's real it gets real bunched up like normally like mr wonderful is our eighties man. And it's just three guys and we played a tracks and it's kind of a mtv girl band anyway That vampire plays a most. Because there's only three of us and it's pretty easy to to get. It's easier get three guys together to even just go play the show and then our country ban probably plays the next and then our diamond jacker seventies band. It's five guys more money. It's a bigger deal usually would play like twice a month. Okay well like in april. We have like six shows. He's what i'm saying. So he kind of goes her diamond. Jackie fits and starts. They don't really. they don't really so recently. Probably over the last few months you guys added mike mccullough to the the diamond check lineup. Tell us how that came about. I've known mike for some time and Remembering back from the sister. Mary tarantula day so yeah mike don't mind forever. Actually we're was. Mike was one of the first persons Will we left when we got a ranch me in scour talking about doing something and he's one of the first people we call and then is just didn't really and then paul byron was playing with us and he just he was done. He didn't wanna do anymore. corner do whatever he needed to do and so it was a man. It was a no brainer. You know he's just one of those guys. You can play guitar it saying. He's so talented. So that was one of the easiest like okay transition. Yeah i mean we. I a little bit and and we need to rehearse more ban is the one that's hard and it's like deceptively hard because you think you know those songs because you played them so often and then you'll be in the middle of the show going Wait a minute. Is it not here and so we were. We gotta rehearse before our next. We did a show on saint patrick's day and we hadn't played in a while. And we probably should've i and of course it's not again. It's one of those that whole perception like people can't really tell if you just kinda smile and get through it. Ninety percent of the people can't tell you did it but it's kind of a confidence unit you know when you do it on your the thing about the thing. That's weird like the big difference with ranch to. We played two hundred shows a year. You know four days a week sometimes five days a week so like mistakes happened but you immediately got to fix them right away your next day. You're like alligator tomorrow things. And what was weird for me. Was going to these bands like when stacy and i start playing together like it was country one night and then it was A rock and it was it was different and you play a show would just kind of fluff something up and it sucked because it would like you was on your mind for the next three. We can't wait to do that. Against like can make up for that. When i stunk the place up with that you know. are you. See the video. And you're like oh my god. I can't sing that anyway. I got some different right. There and the other thing was really. What's been a challenge for me. Personally i have a terrible memory. Anyway is just lyrics man. I used to 'cause i you know. We used to do song so often. They memorized them in a week. You're done playing him so much that you neum right away and these bands on my me and do i gotta do the ipad. I get you hated do it. But you didn't have a choice you know. I mean you just had to do it. So i have to do is sometimes and what sucks about that is. And that's just me. But i can tell when i'm reading. I can listen recording until you. That's yeah i had to look on. Alvar can hear me. I can't sing in tune anyway. So i don't need something else. Any other distract. If it's any consolation. I was at compaq center and i was watching. I had tickets to see cheap trick aerosmith and it was maybe to my surprise. Maybe surprised me all that much. But i noticed that there were teleprompters off. They look like wedges. The stage and steven tyler is reading the teleprompters. And what does that. Tell us that this guy has been singing. The songs for forty five fifty years ago and rodent still doesn't can't remember. Wait which i went before the Favorite teleprompter story my good friend. George olson used to be the sound engineer for george strait. You know he was the guy right. So george strait has a teleprompter bagel teleprompter right. So he's he's details story about how he doesn't look at it. You don't notice george strait. It doesn't seem like he ever looks at it and they see him on the big screen they say you know george olsen's done hundreds of shows with him but if it goes out he gets all look at it and i'll tell you it's become somewhat of a crutch for me but here's what happens with the teleprompter is you learn how to look at it and it's more of a place like okay. I'm here and it's a glance at it. It's not like you're not reading it like you're reading a book but you're you're saying okay. That's the next you know when you progression. Yeah exactly and with me with us like in like diamond. Jack and our country band is all live tracks. We we don't vary very much but we might change. Something might get changed or whatever but if somebody messes up no big deal but in our eighties band man. We got keyboard tracks and percussion and like we did in him. And you can't mess up no you can't and when people make kind of look down their noses you playing with tracks normally. It's people that have never done it. You know 'cause it's hard and it's and it's nerve-racking wool rhythm. The tempo of the song is everything. Because you can't like slow or speed the track upper armor do it but yeah but that's the one where you like. You have to have a notes because you're like okay does three times and then and then what's funny you'll get mad at like the guy that wrote you know. Relax by. Frankie goes to hollywood. Like why did he added measure. You're like mad at the guy stupid all of a sudden you're some sort of critic about like the one that always cracks me up is a and it's even like really mechanical mod very mechanical stuff sequence everything but their arrangements are always a little weird. Yeah there's a spot where they leave a measure out or do something like those sons vigia mad at him watch ally because now it's not a standard track. Two year i'd the blue felt at the time they only do three. Those what does kent newman do. When you're not on stage or their hobbies pets like sleep. I have a fantastic wife. She's awesome and we spend as much time together as possible remarried for twenty years. What guy what was the anniversary day. Look dude no no. We're not recording the recorders offer more bad about her move on a ryan broadcasts for a long time. So you.
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"It was a completely different than seen. Neil shaw on television. I was right there. And i was hearing the sounds and i was watching. And he was so happy and having the best time and i saw him with a lot of people and i saw him when there was like ten people there and it was always the same. And that's when. I actually said i wanna do that. Yeah i wanna be not not saying. I wanna play in front of ten people. I was just the joy in what he was doing. His his radiate was an instrument. Everything that he was doing was i. I'm like that's what i wanna do. And i would always be drawn towards bands like that and fourteen k. You know they were another one of those bands. Everybody's saying in the band chris. Kyle's still plays an awesome. He was their drummer. Yeah the fantastic singer you know so it was just that kind of Layout of all everybody sings. Everybody is a part of it. There was no weak link. It's funny that you mention that. Because i can remember so many bands that i loved. I can think of remember hot child in the city by nick and you never know what he looked like full until probably like fifteen years ago. And i'm like wait. That's not a chick. That was seeing that i mean you. You didn't know the song. How long by ace and on. What are these guys. Looked like right and also you had the thing of the whole joke of life faithful radio but you had people that just i mean it sounds terrible but you know they. They didn't have any visual appeal but they were so talented. And it didn't matter back in the thirties. Exactly so yeah you and there were probably some people that were like a rare articles by christopher cross. You know he was remember. That's how you won a grammy. He was at whatever year that was that was it san antonio boy and he always talks about how he just. It was right before the visual era. And he just isn't a. I mean he's just a dude as a good looking guys abnormal looking guys. He's fingers you're out of his head but he i mean and these are his words. I'm not saying but he said he was just a little. That was just that era and then you had that magical weird time where it all worked like a youtube good looking people. The police Duran duran i mean you can say what you want about duran but those guys took their that was. They were serious about that. Know so it all worked kinda worked together but that was when the visual you know again. The that's where you're saying like when we grew up it was not the visual part of it was something but it wasn't all you now. You can almost kind of almost always think about that for sure. You almost can't separate it at all and you'd always hear about i remember. I gave a great example. We went and saw the cars. This was like the candy. Oh album came out and we love the cars and these are like all musician buddies who use other great so we go see him in austin and we had no idea they were like a chick ban they were like benjamin order like the most beautiful creature ever said and these women are just like. We didn't know at all really. This is the have that appeal. We think about that. You know so it wasn't that we were disappointing. But you're just like okay. I guess right but it's true. I mean it's just a and everybody makes it's about the i dunno performance or it's about sincerity. You look like a guy like rick springfield you think of being more about image than music right man they. Nobody's more serious about music than rick springfield he. He's he lives and dies. Songwriting you he just pretty man. He's a rockstar. Have you ever go see rich. Springfield live even if you're not a fan but it's on a great show. God you guys should be. I think the media has taken it. I mean you look at american idol and the voice. you know. there's some fantastic singers that are like you said. Have a face for radio but when i think when these people are signing talent you have to have the appeal to. I think that's part of it is part of the marketing of the music. And here. here's a crazy thing. Is i see a lot of The the artists that i follow on instagram specifically and some of the female artists. Every picture you see on post on instagram is almost like it's like a glamour shot and how about how about singing a song or your musician. So and so music. How about singing a song and showing us your talent. I don't yeah you you're beautiful and everything but it's like that has preceded the whole talent thing. I'm beautiful but oh i play a little guitar too ended tricky. I mean it's again. I don't i don't know i mean everything's just different. You know music in general consume so differently than it used to be. Yes that was. That's the thing that. I think being older that i just i would never pretend to be some kind of historian like a kept track of it. But i've seen it. I actually have played music since there was nothing like that. I mean i remember the first time i saw four track recorder. You know up until now was actually create an album with no one. So i've seen i've been in. I've lived in an interesting transitional time and has kinda done it the whole time. A lot of people will either adapt or die or just quit doing it. Because it's not the way they want to do it so they say i wanna do it anymore. Yes or or some people adapt. They don't really get good at it until they adapt like i don't know how to say this but like i have friends that were not that are like in production now and they really kept up with the technology and now they have jobs and they're doing stuff but they might not have the best year they just knew exactly to run the machine. The best you know guys didn't talk real quick to the listeners about bands that were pre wrapped ranch where what can't do in pre pre right ranch and i know you are with ranch a long time but what happened was it was every. I think everybody has a weird. They think their stories weird. But i i play in the emotions which was a fantastic group like fifteen and sixteen because those guys were all like twenty. I'd been in like high school band. And when i and the where the way that's relevant. I mean like i'd been in groups of people trying to create music. I've been in jazz ban stuff like that. So the first rule band. I was in was a bunch of big country. Boys from shire. Do don't do that. And i think when you're fifteen or sixteen that's what you need. You need somebody kind of telling you know man. Don't you know it's like the old a lot of my most respected musicians. I've ever play with kind of said the same thing. And when i say respected i mean guys that were way. More talented than me and had a lot more complex than they. They would all a few of them have said to me. My one of my best. My best friend. David simpson when we we grew up playing together and he played piano and i play guitar and i learned a lot every pretty much everything i knew about music up until we quit working together all from david and are just from having a communicate with them but he was a great musician and he could play anything but he would say something like no. It's not can you play it. It's should you play. Yes and i think. I learned not that i always knew what the play. I would never pretend that i ever learned that lesson but i just was all. I was from a very early age. Like the i bands our was in our in. I was in those guys were they were. They didn't let you just do whatever you want it. You know and i think you kind of need that when you say maybe not everybody but i already kind of jammed already kind of gotten that out of my system that you know just doing. I'm gonna just do what. I wanna do right at a very early age kind of gotten past that yes and i kinda immediately had already thinking in that one guy playing something awesome or like when you're talking about like the voice or american idol. You see one person doing something in the they've spent a million hours and they're really really good at it and it's impressive. There's no doubt about it. But i was always more impressed. You know by everyone. Doing you know like a band like us. Because it's rarer to this day it's rare you go see a band and you know i've said this and i don't know i'm probably not the first person to say but five guys all playing the same song as an that's doesn't mean it's a ban and even when i was in for thirty years i like we'd all be on the same page and just it just couldn't have been better four guys or even five and then a month later it was just horrible. It's not even a lot of it's just timing. You know and people's attitudes at the time but so before range they're really. I kinda had quit. I really wasn't doing it at all. And then when that started back up the philosophy was this. I don't know if this is a good win or not but was no plan. B like these. I already had a job. And i was doing something. So the guys that wanted to start this ban. We're doing anything. So i was like okay. I'm going to quit what i'm doing. I'm gonna quit working with my dad. I'm gonna give all this up. That i know is money in my bank account to do this. So everyone's gotta do it for a living. At least we'll have that in common. Yeah you know that if we don't all agree on everything we at least all have to make a living doing this some common. No plan b if you have a plan b. go do plan b. Yeah and in my life and that was one of the advantages to get into it. I wasn't a kid. That point a kid but i was my late twenties so i kind of approach it'll differently. I didn't it was like it's not gonna fail. It's just not yup. I i i've done things long enough and done enough research and gone and seen other bands ago. Okay i know what works what doesn't work and the one thing i learned or not that i learned but i i noticed right away was you can't create something that's not there and what i mean by that like like you had your ford especially when it's a small band like four or five guys. They're going to do what they do And they're gonna all have strengths and weaknesses. Got a play to those. Yeah you can't hire like if your keyboard player leaves. You can't fill that guy's roles exactly. It was correct so we would always adapt like every time we would lose a member or change it. Would you know what does that guy do. You know exactly what he does and whatever he does good. That's what we're gonna do. Well ranch formed by think back and eighty nine. Is that correct. And what did the original lineup look like for it was drums bass guitar and keywords in Everybody's saying for guys. You know like. I said were in victoria so we would travel. You know we get a gigging corpus. We get in austin so we had a lot of places to choose from. Yeah and it was a different again. I'll say this a lot. It was just things were different than there. Were probably more fulltime. I want to say fulltime bands. There were there. Were more bands back then without a doubt because more people just went out to see bands like you could go up and down the yon- sixteen austin do thousands of people out every night of the week. Not just the weekends. I mean you. Probably inserted. Sunday at maggie maze. And there'd be four hundred people so there was a mechanism to keep those bands working. Yup you know. How would you say that the set list. The song choices changed when i think the original singer was mark is that it was me and malcolm our original. While it was the three of us was pretty even look at when mark russell joined that was a fifth guy okay and he and he became more of a lead singer just because we kinda felt like we he was a he played guitar too but we kind of had felt like we needed that like we needed a more of a focus in just something to sing lead. Yeah that's kind of the way it happened but really with mark on a personally. I mean i wanted mark in the ban because he was just so serious about it. Yeah i mean he was serious and he still is. He's one of those guys that i knew that. I don't bands are tricky. I mean they're like any other relationship. They're they're very very complicated. But i've always felt like if you had at least have two guys. They're really really on the same page. Yeah you can. You can drive the drive. The ship that way. Well i was just curious. Like 'cause i remember when mark was with the band. If my memory serves me correctly there was quite a bit of things. Like sticks. And i remember rush. Yeah and and then he left and it went four piece. I think yeah and then some of those songs fell out. And i'm assuming i mean. Of course you have to adapt to what the the lead vocalist is capable of being right. They can't pull off every artist golota in that particular case We're doing. we're doing originals. Into so we were thinking in along those lines but also you know everything kind of runs. Its course like it sounds funny but there was a time whenever mark was in the band when that kind of music like now i have abandoned some seventies rock man. That's all we plays that kind of stuff but at the time you know there weren't a lot of bands at did that and that's kind of why we wanted. We thought you know what we like. Some of our favorite music we wanna play journey and russian and stuff so we kind of got him. In the band do that and he became. It wasn't a novelty but we did pretty well if the band was suited to doing that kind of stuff you know people really liked it. We did it and we were playing a lot so when he left in some of those songs. Kinda got retired and this through. Nobody's planning this is just highness happen. We had to learn a lot of new songs and we had a lot of learning more current sauces. We play anything current for a while so we were learning like blink one eighty two and all of a sudden that was when it was a big deal will. The reaction was huge to that because all of a sudden they're all my god i'm people are not they're never going to tell you they don't like what you're going to do with playing that song but when we did quit they're all my god. I'm so playing that now and it's just so much better. It wasn't better. No it's just different different. Yeah and So yeah we just kind of had again because we had to adapt to yes. I think Later on scott holding join our band and he was a like a kind of a. He's a great singer but he could sing like that kind of he added that to kinda high screaming voice. He could do a lot of stuff. We can do audio slave stuff like that and that's when it was a big deal so we adapted and we started doing stuff you just have to have to win and i think that that's a great segue into walking into the now with current bands you know. Let's talk about those so you have shotgun road you have the still newman do. Oh you have Mr wonderful you have diamond jack which happens to be my favorite of all of them. I just maybe. I'm just a seventies kind of guy that music just resonates with me. Diamond jackson kelly your favorite. Because i do the least well. You heard it first ladies and gentlemen all you listeners. I didn't want to say it but has confirmed the obvious. And i'm just sexy and that s my only purpose every ban has fabrio right. Yeah i think the brel brett brett was it and rat ranch while right and know what happened was again. Those are bands. That kinda they will like. Stacy already had his theory. Won't stacey stills. he's the best man and that was a relationship. That really helped me when i got out orange because he had his vision for his country ban which was classic country. It's like eighty nineties country and that's just as you know what he's really into and we were finding that it was it worked. You know he was right. I mean people like that kind of music. We ended up and with that with our country band. You know there's a lot of how i put this. There's bans is still kind of bill. Say their country band. They'll say us and they still want to try to be like a variety being. They still kind of want to be everything to everybody. Get away from it and that's okay. I'm not. I'm not look. It's if it works for them. I'm not gonna say they're anybody's doing anything wrong. There's no one way to do it but for us. We kinda san thought about it and we're lying you know we like to rock songs and it's all country you know and what we found again. No one's going to come up to you and man you guys suck it when we get any kind of complimentary one of the ones that we get. A lot is over so glad. 'cause y'all just do deaths which do do country right. We're playing in a country bar it's like actual guy can play the wobble. The dj complained that stuff. That's what for that's the point is and i think people kind of took to that and nowadays everything's so pigeonholed. I mean the tribute band thing. People kinda wanna know what they're going to get and i think that's why tribute bands are such a big deal right now. So variety bands are just. You know it's just not like it used to be you know. Play everything like what was cool about that and it was a band of its era. The thing that we did in a rare ranch where we'd probably we did anything right was we didn't man. You never knew what the hell when we play anything. Yeah and that was cool because because it really opened up we can play anything and the only criteria we had in that band was. Can we make it sound. Worth a damn does sound good. Are people going to know it. That's it and i think i'm not gonna say song. Selection is an important because it obviously is. But if there's one thing i kinda learn. I think i've learned but for me it works. Is that the main thing is can you make it sound good. Then the next thing is are people going to kind of know it. I really my kind of know it. i mean. it doesn't have to be the most popular song but they kinda either like your band or they don't they make up their mind pretty quick so even if you're up there playing their favorite music and they don't like you that's actually worse because you more like i can't believe it. I love this song. Why are they playing the song. So and so. What i mean by that is if you have a focus is that seemed to have that seems to have helped with these bands. What we have now is right saying having. We didn't wanna. I don't wanna be an attribute. Man that i didn't wanna be one but i didn't nothing really comes to mind and there's a lot of great tribute band but you know. We started doing the diamond. Jack thing and scott madigan's in that one for my ranch and we started talking about it and we were just kind of like we'll just nothing after one thousand nine hundred eighty man. Let's just keep it all seventies and see what we got at the guys in it just lend themselves to that kind of stuff perfectly exactly worked out great awesome. So would you say that of of the. I think four or five four bands four things. Yeah that's that's three more than i do. Is there one in. It's not a slight on any of the players in any of them. That's not why mask this question but does one of the band's genres register resonate better with you as a musician like the seventies or the eighties. I mean what i mean. It's unique. I get different and i like. I don't know man and everybody's unique mixture of chemicals but like for me. It's i mean. I like playing everything i mean. Always have mean it's just it's fun to be in a good band and you know what it doesn't really matter what you're playing you know. So that's all i care about are they. Do they sound good. You know. I mean and it's fun to play things at different. The country band was it wasn't it wasn't challenging. Because i kind of already knew what the play. And i had to learn. I just had to learn so many songs i wasn't familiar with. That was hardest part of that van. I don't because historically you aren't probably a country country western ever played it. I mean. I like everything and i was growing up. I probably the first people that i saw playing guitar. That i liked country. Guys like glen campbell and jerry. Jerry was as big influence on anybody when i was little because he was having so much. Fun yeah great picker. Everything about him was you. Were just like i want to do that. And i think that's what i'm looking for in a band is just as when you're in a band your job is just creating namath's fear i mean that's i agree with us all you're doing and so i think as long as those every band's doing that and whatever atmosphere is creating that's that's the point of it yup. It didn't that if you're original cover as a matter of doing the same thing really yup and and you touched on it a little bit earlier. You're doing some guitar instruction on your maybe on your own and through the school of raw. Can you do score a couple of days. Do like tuesday saturday. And that's and i love it. It's awesome not a slide against the but mainly because it just right my house so it's so easy to do and then of course i got a tat and you get attached to people and yeah. It's hard to not do it anymore. Not that i would. Never i would ever stop but i i would never do more than that and i'm assuming is just guitar that you're you're you're teaching your thing. I learned there right. you wanna do keyboard. Can you teach keyboards like will again. I yeah i could. But sure i'm not gonna you know well for the listeners are you. Are you taking new. Students are you. Looking for new students allowed really. I know things are picking back up from from covert a little bit and you guys are getting back out on the stage Which is gonna keep you busy but Wanted to make sure that if there were listeners. Out there that were looking for lessons We wanted to make sure to plug how how to find. You rightly the only ones doing privately. That i still do or like songwriting. Housing guys with ryan songs. According i've done a lot of i got a lot of recording on logic since they invented logic. I've been using so so. That's just one of those things where i've given i give There's a buddy of mine in dallas. Soon now we just started out as just friends just working all stuff and now he actually you know actually help him here and there but yeah it's just hard to. It's hard to find time. I i don't want to. I like to work with somebody. That has a specific goal. You know like they're learning. They wanted to get this thing. Done a good friend of ours. It was She wanted to sing in her wedding. You know she had a goal. Want sure absolutely made it cool. Well how long have you been associated with school. Arado about three years four years yeah operation. I mean it's so cool to to see. I mean it's a cool concept and it's it's music in a i don't know how to put it. It's a very it's just a it's just the attitude of it is is good. I think you know dorte like the teamwork and stuff. And i mean it's just a good. It's just a good concept because really to me. Like even when i give lessons for right now i got teenage boys at school rockin and you know they play guitar the rest of their life. You know whatever. I don't you know they're going to end up being whatever they're gonna be but i think anybody. That's i think the best thing that i learned from playing guitar. It's providing with the living and it's been fantastic and absolutely love to do it. Every time i get to go do it but it was. It's a challenge and it you never master it. Yeah like when. I get people lessons. I'm like this is like a rubik's cube with an infinite number of tiles because you're always learning new things about it. And i think anytime you pursue something like that. That's just good for your soul your your character. Especially if you're young like i said like boy saying to me. I was mad at my aunt. Because she said i was. You know she kind of took away the amount of work he put into exactly you know so. Hopefully that kind of work ethic not that i would ever try to teach somebody at work ethic but it the way it was explained to me one time and i thought it was great. Was that if you want to do something because it's fun within play a game on your phone. That stuff is designed to be detained but playing guitar is fun but it's a worthwhile all of the sacrifice you make to do. It is fun is part of it. That's just a part of blink and it's such a weird thing to make a living. Doing something is fine settings. It's like playing sports or something people they never they always kind of. Think it's a phase right when your family liberal up one day ten and cut your hair and get a real job at the you know the the mart or whatever the reason is because when they see what you're doing and you're the ultimate product of it is fun you're in you're putting on a show but they don't realize it all the work. Was you know. Ninety percent of it was not you. Don't see it and going back to the teaching thing. I think you can get kids involved with. I don't have any kids. So what would i know but that shows them that the work is worth it. you know. it's worth the best students are always the ones that have been like a musical theater or band where they're used to like working at it but then we had those kids like a like you have the school rock they put together these shows and you'll have a theme like punk rock or whatever. I don't direct the shows ever but mike mccullough from a diamond. Jackie we're player. He directs them and he always laughs about it to these kids will be like. Oh my god. I'm so sick of this song. You know you don't get to be sick of song That's not your. You can't play it until you're sick of it. You have to teach curbing until repetitive. This whole thing of you. Don't practice until you get it right you practice until you can't get it wrong and i still play stuff wrong constantly because you're still going to mess it up email but if you ever have a kid that's been like a musical theater which being nobody works harder than those people. Yeah who is it. Thirty people making one thing. It's not about how you feel about it. Yeah i agree. And i was always told to. I tried to instill this into my son brandon. Who's playing a lotta shows with me now. You get better. When you collaborate with other musicians and play with other musicians you can be The stevie ray vaughan king in your bedroom right but pushing him out on the stage and it's like a stage fright and it's like you just have to. You have to get out there. You have to experience you have to do it and once you do you look back six months from now and you say to really. Wasn't that big of a deal is just the unknown that we're afraid of and again i think you you hone your talent and you get better when you learn from other people and not. Just stay secluded by herself. And sometimes that's learning what not to do exactly not being negative but it's true. I mean especially like. I've been playing for so long. I mean i've learned more from people that have had to get rid of or you know where on my okay. Why what made that unpleasant. And then i don't wanna do that. Y'all don't be that guy even just something simple like drink or drunk you know i mean i. I never really did. I was never a big drinker. But after i played with guys who were then i was like man. There's i don't wanna be that guy exact thin any unfortunately in in especially in like a local music scene or people that are hobbyists when they're not actual and nothing against people that do as a hobby or they do it part time because they could still do a professional job of it but basically some guys play because they can get drunk. You have a bar tab. Where i'm not even joking about. I mean there are people that have that career because they can be an drinkers drink and might even looking down on. I'm not even. I'm not even looking down. Drinking people are time for drinking. I'm just talking about when it you know affects your performance and they tell themselves a dozen and they rationalize it just like anybody that drinks a lot does but you know like that was the other thing is i would always get. Why would never pretend to know how to run a club or manager book bands or any of that stuff and stuff. I've always kind of dumb. But i would never do it from a living but you know i heard too many club owners complain about those guys. Yeah because we didn't like in romance. We were pretty straight so they'd be like oh my god i mean we were like it when you all your because you don't get drunk and that's just so that's kind of depressing when you think about it. Why would you be praised for something you should do anyway. I know you wanna cookie. Well i never been to prison. Your so they would. They would tell me that. And so i'd hear all. I mean these are really good club owners guys that were did a great job of and own their own club and they would be drunk but they own perogatives. You're you're the employee your hard help. And and that's interesting. You say that. Because i won't mention the name of the place that i play but for a while at this place it was you know all of your food for the musicians was taken care of all all of your dreams. Were taking care of all night long and it got to a point. And i'm like you. I might have a beer here. And there are many of the micro breweries and rarely. Do i go in there. I just. I just don't probably because i don't wanna feel like shit for four days after that even if i drink when but but my point is there was groups and bands that have come in there and abuse that so much that the owner says no more no more. It's like well wait a minute. That was kind of part of my deal. That i worked out with you and now i'm getting stripped of that because somebody else's abuse it so you're always going to have those people i think and then you're never going to get away from that one time Ricky phones a club in tyler rix on the square and he's owned it forever and he's an awesome club. Owner any hardworking guy takes incredible pride and one time and he would be trouble. No no offense. Rick you hear this but brick like to drink at his uncle if he's the host of the party and it was cool but you're on stage plan and i'll never forget one time he said to me. Let me tell you something. He's older and i kind of took. What he said seriously said. No one wants to pay someone to get drum. And i didn't really know i mean i kind of knew what he meant. But he was talking specifically about being club owner and paying a bunch of guys to do a show and in drunk and he and he was dead serious he said man. Nobody there's no boss. That's happy that they're paying you and you're getting drunk on their job even if it's that job that they're not happy well it can be humiliating to the bar owner if you if you have a group in there that is underperforming. And they're amusing the well. I think it's it's. I don't know everyone has their own opinion. And i don't like i said i i in my experience you know i've played with guys in that you know. Will they kind of drink or they don't drink are they. This whatever and generally speaking if someone tells you econ we're kind of getting back into that area of people you wouldn't are you know not to work with and i've had people tell me i mean well i really don't feel like i'm complete until i have a couple of beers and that just right there. I'm like well. I'm never going to play with that guy and i mean and that's just me not being prejudice on but i'm but i know like i've played. I don't want to drag anybody into i. There's guys that i played with that. I play them when they were drinking. I play them. When they weren't touring up. Played with them when they were kinda drinking. And every you know every you can't tell me that they did a better job. When i mean almost exclusively when they weren't they think they think they're doing but what it is but what. I don't even know how we got on this subject but it's a shame that it's become a shame. It's interesting to me that it became intertwined know like banner doing shots and all that and when we were like in the in like when the ranch like during that whole ninety s era when we were playing. We actually traveled quite a bit. But we play like those houston clubs and and those vans party man oh yeah party harsher and we never did it all and you'd have your buddies that are another bands. Yeah we party with the crowd and that's what people like and they like it when you interact with them and all this stuff and we didn't do any of that we didn't talk between songs and no no. I don't mean this. I'm not bragging but we were is big abandoned. There was and so at in that little seen so freedom has to do all those things and it wasn't that we were trying to purposely. Not doing it. And i wasn't even looking down my nose even to this day. If they wanna do that's fine. I'm just talking about me. What worked for us. And what i saw work and it's just it's just weird that became. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the whole drugs and rock and roll. And i don't really know the mistake behind are just that you're in a bar. I think it so well from a from a gig perspective. How many shows a year are you personally. Play in across the across the band's man that's good so weird now thinking about it because last year was so crazy on a on a normal conditions. i mean i'm usually playing optician. Oh not even close. We're only playing three days a week. Now okay yeah me. And i mean i'm playing on pretty much every weeknight. We've knowing off tonight. I'm playing on a thursday. We played last sunday. And what's weird about now as it's real it gets real bunched up like normally like mr wonderful is our eighties man. And it's just three guys and we played a tracks and it's kind of a mtv girl band anyway That vampire plays a most. Because there's only three of us and it's pretty easy to to get. It's easier get three guys together to even just go play the show and then our country ban probably plays the next and then our diamond jacker seventies band. It's five guys more money. It's a bigger deal usually would play like twice a month. Okay well like in april. We have like six shows. He's what i'm saying. So he kind of goes her diamond. Jackie fits and starts. They don't really. they don't really so recently. Probably over the last few months you guys added mike mccullough to the the diamond check lineup. Tell us how that came about. I've known mike for some time and Remembering back from the sister. Mary tarantula day so yeah mike don't mind forever. Actually we're was. Mike was one of the first persons Will we left when we got a ranch me in scour talking about doing something and he's one of the first people we call and then is just didn't really and then paul byron was playing with us and he just he was done. He didn't wanna do anymore. corner do whatever he needed to do and so it was a man. It was a no brainer. You know he's just one of those guys. You can play guitar it saying. He's so talented. So that was one of the easiest like okay transition. Yeah i mean we. I a little bit and and we need to rehearse more ban is the one that's hard and it's like deceptively hard because you think you know those songs because you played them so often and then you'll be in the middle of the show going Wait a minute. Is it not here and so we were. We gotta rehearse before our next. We did a show on saint patrick's day and we hadn't played in a while. And we probably should've i and of course it's not again. It's one of those that whole perception like people can't really tell if you just kinda smile and get through it. Ninety percent of the people can't tell you did it but it's kind of a confidence unit you know when you do it on your the thing about the thing. That's weird like the big difference with ranch to. We played two hundred shows a year. You know four days a week sometimes five days a week so like.
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"paul byron" Discussed on WJR 760
"I know from now on when you preface. Is this the question with Hey, By the way, the mikes are off and I'm going to start it here. We'll get the bed in a minute. But he says to me ask the question. I just thought I was like, Look, the makes her office is safe place. How do you How do you really feel about blacks will be in here in Detroit and let me put it this way. Sean. I saw the face that Claude Lemieux saw. I saw it for a moment. And then I let him know I was just winding him up and just giving him a hard time because I know there's a ticket. He talk in the or and then there's something out there in the social media world. If you see where I tell everybody, it's the wiser plan because Stevie said, so when we're not there yet. Bottom line for anybody who was still listening, Right? Wait till the goalie the goalie's before the coach. This is a perfect guy, so I mean, I read I Because of what I chose to do. And I know I put myself in this position. I was forewarned when my good buddy and partner in crime, Shawn believes and told me. You sure you want to do that. You know, you got to read stuff. And Stan and it blows my mind. How stupid some people really are right? Because they don't understand and just listen until it's not because the first thing I'll be the first one to question Steve Iseman when it's not right, so as long as you trust me, and there's not another Detroit Red Wing in the history that has More cups, and I do. There's a lot with the same Some were still alive. Some aren't but that's what I'm saying. So I'm just saying, trust the vibe, and it's just going to flow so I think Jeff Flash is awesome. Yes, exactly. Big breath. I know. And we're going to see a lot of great things from this team. What? What about you, Sean? That's just my look. Look no further than Tampa. Go. Go back if you're a National Hockey league fan, Okay, go back. They had this crazy run early on, right. They had this crazy run. And then you know what they they struggled. There's no other way to say it, and they had some unceremoniously bounces out of the playoffs as well. And then all of a sudden you I mean, honestly, take a look at it the last six years. This is a team now that that has been amongst the greats in the National Hockey League, and I go back to that day that he was hired April 19th. 2019, he said, point blank. This isn't about getting back into the playoffs. This is about getting this franchise into that level that people around here grew accustomed to and you don't hae to find that Mac. What the Temple Lightning have done for the last six years and and sure if you want to be that guy in say that they've only had one cup. You're more than welcome to say that, but I'll take that one cup. I'll take being in the mix each and every year and certainly being considered one of the if not the favorites. This year, it's going to take time. It's five years. There's a couple more years of this to go. But I'll tell you what, Mac, I agree with you when they're close. You'll see him make that move, and it might not be It might not be that highly drafted goaltender, you know, he took a chance on Ben Bishop in Tampa. He took a chance even earlier on Dwayne Roller sin in Tampa when he goes and gets that guy that's gonna be a sign that they're close. What do you say to people? It? Obviously they're the first ones. If you talk to Chris Draper, or you talk to Steve eyes him and whatever that we have to choose Good players right where the argument with Tampa's Will. They got step close today. God had men and They chopped it up high and you know what, Like good make that make all the cup champions of the little harder. It's like, you know, obviously, I we can laugh about the way that we we've been treated in the draft. But we're going to get there no matter what. The bottom line because what the most important thing is It's not to get there on 11. It's to get there and when and be competitive for more than one for every year to be like you said Tampa For six years in that. No, That's important. Now. Here. I want to do something because last night I saw Blame Fowler and somebody's altering some some. I don't know. Alter ego or but much all Canadian fan who, if anybody who's a hockey fan leaves, no, it's not you, but you know who it is. You're like Alfred, would you know who it is? That's what I mean. Because that's your the inside information. Yeah. You don't even speak French, bro. No, I mean, you only kiss that way way that was marked Bird that was marked Berggren. Mark birds with the GM of Montreal Canadians. That was his line. I'm not. I'm not just French. I just gets that way anyway. Segway that's the GM in Montreal. Canadians. Um So you're Dominic Ducharme. I'm Sheldon Keefe. And last night the much all Canadians on a sick Shorty. By Paul Byron effort if you haven't seen it, Yeah, exactly Be. That's playoff hockey. That's a Chris Draper ish mall. Big, dirty grind line goal, but the twin towers of Peachtree, Um local kid, Jeff featured damn peach trees, Sun and Shea Weber. Cary Price look like old Cary Price Now in this game, If you haven't seen it, you do not need to watch it. Take my word for it. There was a an act. There was an accident, a sort of a play where jobs of ours. The captain of the trauma may police. Got hit. And then Corey Perry. Uh, incidentally, on the Way by Needham rate in the head, and it was a scary situation and stuff like that. A couple, you know, but the best part today and you could tell it took the wind out of The sales of trough of Toronto and stuff, but the Let everybody know to viruses was responding. He's batteries out of the hospital. He's definitely out. With severe concussion. But if your dominant Ducharme the coach, the head coach, Um do you think that it's a deficit? Obviously, because he's not on the ice, or do you think that trauma can bounce back and using two viruses injured as motivation? You know, I would hope that they can bounce back because they they didn't look good last night. We're talking about this team. This is the problem with this team. Can they afford to hit you be get hit. This is a gut shot, right? And we had to talk about our Detroit Red wings back in the day had to learn how to take a punch and how to learn how to take a gut shot and learned how to take a knock down. And learn how to bow bull one into it. You know, Rocky wanted to. That's how we, you know, fought, and then and then it turned into rocky foreign. If everyone could change. So holy cow. I just realized that the Russian five and Rocky shot anyways. But what everybody's been saying about the lead with this team isn't built for the playoffs..
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"paul byron" Discussed on Brunch
"Season preview. I'm DJ bean and on people at burn open next 56 minutes to get you ready for all the slapshots cross checks and outsides reviews for for the end of the 2021 NHL season. Let's drop fuck off. Due to covid-19. Keep why don't you tell us about the Canadians? Sure the Canadians have Paul Byron and Brendan Gallagher as their alternate captains, but instead of an a I use an e and the Canadians had quite the offseason. That's right. Why don't you tell us about the Leafs? Sure the Leafs play for Toronto after five hundred years without a ring. John Todd bars gave them one in the bubble. When his Puck hit the post in the bubble and the Leafs had quite the offseason. That's right. Why don't you tell us about the Jets? Sure the Jets have already been eliminated from the playoffs to reduce travel and the Jets had quite the offseason. That's right. Why don't you tell us about the Flames? Sure the Flames play in call Gary which is what the referees do offer the sponsors do when they have a question about something. And the Flames had quite the offseason. That's right. Why don't you tell us about the Oilers? Sure boiler. I barely know her the Oilers have the best player in the world. They also have Conor McGregor and the Oilers had quite the offseason. That's right. Why don't you tell us about the Senators? Sure. The Senators are frickin nasty and are going to make some real noise this year and the Senators had quite the offseason age. Nope didn't need to now it's time for who has the best shirts off. Who has the best shirts in the NHL I think goalies have the best shirts because they're nice and big and can fit all of their pads this year. The NHL is doing reverse shirts to reduce travel. Now. Let's have our friend Jeff read one of the most important rules of NHL. Rule 9.6 helmets all players shall wear a helmet of design material and construction approved by the league while participating in the game either on the playing surface pro players or penalty benches a player on the ice whose helmet comes off during the play shall be assessed on minor penalty. If he does not exit the playing surface or retrieve and replace his helmet properly on his head with or without his chin strap fastened within a reasonable period of time it is reasonable if a player who is making a play on the puck or who is in the vicinity of the puck and engaged in the play at the time his helmet comes off takes the opportunity to complete the play before either exiting the ice or retrieving and replacing his helmet if the player returns to his Players Bench to be substituted for he may only return to the ice during play off the helmet with the chinstrap properly fastened no player May exit the penalty bench during play without a helmet with the chinstrap properly fastened should he do so the play shall be Soft ones. This team has gained control of the puck and a minor penalty shall be assessed to the offending player a player who intentionally removes an opponent's helmet during play. She'll be assessed a minor penalty for roughing off police. See rule 51. When a goalkeeper has lost his helmet and or face mask and his team has control of the puck Place. She'll be stopped immediately to allow the goalkeeper the opportunity to regain his helmet and or face masks when they using team has control of the puck place. You'll only be stopped if there's no immediate and impending scoring opportunity this stoppage of play must be made by the referee when play is stopped because the goalkeeper has lost his helmet and or face masks the ensuing Faceoff shall take place at one of the defending teams End Zone Faceoff spots. When a goalkeeper deliberately removes his helmet and or face mask in order to scare us a stoppage of Play the song. Play as outlined above and assess the goalkeeper a minor penalty for delay of game if the goalkeeper deliberately removes his helmet and or face masks when the opposing team is on a breakaway the referee Shayla ward off a shot to the non-offending team and the shot shall be taken by the player last in possession of the puck if the goalkeeper deliberately removed his helmet and or face mask during the course of a penalty shot or shoot out of town. The referee shall award a goal to the not offending team now. Let's talk about the West. Tell us about the Ducks. Quack quack quack quack and the Ducks had quite the offseason. That's right. Tell us about the coyotes the coyotes go back. And the coyotes had quite the offseason. That's right. Tell us about the Avalanche. The Avalanche goes down here and the Avalanche had quite the offseason. That's right. Tell us about the Sharks why tell you about the baby sharks when I can talk about them and the Sharks had quieted offseason. That's right. Tell us about the Kings the Kings might as well be the king's Gambit because I'm not going to watch them this year and the Kings had quit offseason. That's right. Tell us about the blues you sound like my therapist and the blues had quite the offseason. That's right. Tell us about the night to reduce travel bag of all their travel budget to Alex Peter Angelo and the Knights had quite the offseason. That's right. Now it's time for an ad which is paid for by a Minnesota Wild fan. It reads hockey can be stressful. We've all been there when the games get too intense too exciting. Well, I haven't been there. I'm a Minnesota Wild fan. Now, let's do some chirping off chirping is when a bird talks knock knock. Who's there a bird, huh? A bird that speaks English. I'm Larry Bird. Knock knock who's there Larry the Cable Guy, huh? I thought I was supposed to get a bird. Not a Larry while you're going to get a bird Thursday. Open this door. Now. Let's talk about the Central division. Now. Let's watch a hockey movie goon Skippack ninety minutes for when we're done watching the movie. Just kidding. It's not all business.