18 Burst results for "Patsy Ramsey"
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on And That's Why We Drink
"And i felt bad. I went home and was like shit like i really hope. I wasn't like too intense. No i felt bad. Because i mean full disclosure everyone to go to their funeral disease. You know so. I was trying to rush the story so i hope it didn't come off like i was like pushing past year. I really had. I been here for one more minute. I would have missed the memorial service for sure. I was literally watch my clock like like. Oh that's interesting anyway. It didn't come off like that. I wasn't trying to be like dismissive. Not really on this one especially. I watched four five five documentaries for this in the laminate hours of work. Do you think you put in for this. Well i hate to call it work. When it's just like the after the notes were done then i was like i'm just gonna like binge all okay documentaries and so if it was technically work like prepping my mind but it wasn't sure you know hard work And then i'll tell you what my favorite documentaries are if anyone's interested so if you do have questions please ask because i am in a head space to discuss this head space in a weird smith all day. I i'm digging it though. Like whatever's happening frenetic it's electric. I'm like okay. I feel in like jazzed up all right so this is a christmas tale because occurred on christmas. I was like like wait holiday. Although it's a it's it occurred during the holidays. So it technically nineteen ninety-six the day after christmas patsy ramsey mother two headed downstairs very very early in the morning. She lives with her husband and two kids in boulder colorado as she went down her spiral staircase. She noted three pieces of a four sized paper laid out neatly on one of the stairs. They had writing on it. That read mr ramsey. Listen carefully and this is kind of a long lot of paragraphs all over the place. Whatever okay like. This is the definition of there's paragraphs or whatever that thing was called this a lot of paragraphs. Why don't i just literally look up way more fun to make up anyone. I know the word paragraphs is at the end and the like just is. There's a lot of them like the just like it's pretty chaotic. So buckle up. That's what the article should have been called. It's pretty chaotic. So buckle up. So that's what's happening here and it is a bunch of apps and i'm gonna read it to you and just like let me know what you think. Okay mr ramsey. listen carefully. We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction. We respect your business but not the country. It serves at this time. We have your daughter in our possession. She is safe and unharmed. And if you want to see if you want her to see nineteen ninety seven you must follow our instructions to the letter you will withdraw one hundred eighteen thousand dollars from your account..
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on Ghost Town
"Jon Benet Ramsey. I'm Jason Horton. I'm Rebecca Leber in this is Ghost Town. Thursday we interrupt all broadcasts stop your news sources. Stop your social media feeds. This is such a weird week. So we decided to do a weird episode. It's going to be where do I even begin with this? I received an email last week from a friend who works at a very a large entertainment news source, and she sends me this email and I am at work and I don't quite get it and she keeps texting me. Have you seen the email and I'm like what email is this? And I open up this email and I start to read it. I immediately so much Jason I get the email. I'm watching Nightmare on Elm Street Dream Warriors, and I'm looking at the email and the email is so strange dog. Kind of jarring. I thought I fell asleep and I was in a Nightmare on Elm Street cuz it really freaked me out. I know what this was. It's all chopped up. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot we're going to get into English. So this is from again A friend of mine who works at a major entertainment news source, and this email is to CBS. It's too old Cathedral don't know what that is KTLA we've done that Washington Post et cetera CNN all of those things and it starts dear News Channel's slash news stations. I am Jon Benet Ramsey all caps. Please read and forward, please. So again, it's like we're sharing this. Okay excerpt below if from my attached full note report at bottom of email. The kid of different different size font a different font the kidnappers and Margaret and Matthew McConaughey photos below. We're also threatening me and my parents John Ramsey and Patsy Ramsey that my birth parents John Ramsey and Patsy Ramsey would be hostage again in the United States once no longer hostage at Selena Toyota in Romania salt mine where they are still so we've got that and that's just from Jon Benet Ramsay at the email..
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on American Hysteria
"Nineteen, sixty five, and it involved a group of volunteers watching a woman on closed circuit television who was allegedly participating in a learning test but was really a graduate student working with learner. She was seated in a room fitted with electrodes and asked a handful of questions with each incorrect answer. The subject would act as if she'd been shocked her screams were. Her body twisting in pain. One Group of volunteers was allowed a choice to transfer her to a different kinder method of learning without this negative reinforcement without this suffering, and almost all of them chose to save her identifying her with words like innocent victim someone who didn't deserve what was happening to her another group of volunteers however was not given the option to save the woman from the electric shocks and they were told that she was being paid for her participation in this learning test. Interviews with volunteers showed that the less money they were told, she was receiving the more they began to blame her saying that she either wasn't paying enough attention wasn't a good learner or that the pain was justified because she'd become smarter as a result I know what's a little confusing but here's what learner concluded from the experiment quote the site of an innocent person suffering without the possibility of reward or compensation motivated people to devalue the attractiveness of the victim in order to bring about a more appropriate fit between her fate and her character. To put it plainly those who are victimized make us uncomfortable if we're unable to help them and so it becomes easier to blame the victim because if the victim receives no money or more broadly, no justice, it shakes the foundations of our belief in adjust world we realized the world can be horrifically random and that any of US could be next with no real way to expect or prevented, and since everything happens for a reason, the victim must have somehow brought this upon themselves. In Reagan's Task Force on victims of crime report victims were presented with words like in. Pure and we're buying large white women sexually assaulted by a stranger at night or old ladies robbed at gunpoint while shopping downtown those who are far less likely to be harmed and far more likely to receive justice than at risk groups like sex workers and drug users in the unharmed those who rarely received the title of innocent victim those who subscribe most strongly to the just world are also more likely to feel negatively toward oppressed groups and less likely to categorize them as innocent victims trying instead to find reasons that their treatment is justified unable. To face the discomfort that the world itself may not always be just just like those who believe in the mean world those who believe in a just world are also more likely to support law and order political leaders in social institutions like the police and prisons as they exist. Now, it's like public hangings, publicized trials, True Crime Investigations, and even victim blaming are these dark magic rituals aimed at restoring the cosmic order away from cosmic chaos all the way back to early colonial life where small sins that held death penalties stealing from your neighbor blasphemy witchcraft. Beside murder and rape as if they were crimes on par with each other, whatever you feel about the correct punishment for sensational crimes like serial murder, the conditions are cultural monsters deserve to live in after their sentencing. The fact remains that are prison policies aided by the Mirage of rampant true crime events have affected all inmates, many of whom are there for drug crimes or robberies folks who with the right social programs with family visits educational opportunities financial investment in communities would all be less likely to become repeat offenders or to even enter prison in the first place? Governor Jerry Brown was a politician who pushed for tough on crime legislation in the nineteen eighties alongside the victim's rights movement and Ronald Reagan. But by the two thousands, he realized that it had been a mistake quote what we did what I did. We didn't fully grasp the consequences. We just didn't know and I say it's an error that should be corrected. It's important to remember that true crime has helped solve cases. It has brought closure to families. It has helped to get the wrongly accused out of prison. It's helped to hold law enforcement accountable to expose huge flaws within the legal system, and it's fueled vital changes in the name of victims rights. But at the same time, we know so much of it is exploitive and horribly insensitive like the case of Jon Benet Ramsey that had no problem implicating the brother of murdered girl and turning him into a villain for profit unleashing the wave of often rabid calls for. Justice in what sometimes starts to feel like Internet, hanging parties and the negative effects of true crime are ever present because it sells and it always has for better or for worse as a result were inundated with it because we want it and that cycle has seriously skewed our perception of crime and the potential for our own inevitable victimhood rates violent crime have been dropping steadily since the early nineties. But the majority of Americans in poll after poll believed the exact opposite and according to true crime, the threat is constant and it's coming to a suburb near you. A quick glance at the investigation discovery lineup tells us just how frightened we should be with shows like evil lives here the killer beside me fear thy neighbor and of course, stranger in my home. The root word of victim comes from the Latin Victoria Thima meaning sacrificial animal, and it seems sometimes politicians and our culture again, and again can sacrifice our archetypal American victims and all of us who are said to be future victims to the gods of law and order, and we can even use past indiscretions real or imagined to sue the our own fear that perhaps the universe does not hand us our justice instead many seek to create this justice to find ways to create a. Just world for all of us in our messy national community, we are hardwired to do this and that at its core is a beautiful thing but a lot of things can be wrapped around our fear around our ideas of justice because these ideas have always been ordered politically socially and culturally. So sometimes, our ritual hope becomes nothing but the upholding of an unjust status quo while further cementing our strict and dangerous categories of us and them of good and evil of victim and criminal. People like Doris Tate those actually affected by sensational true crime events have every motivation to march headlong and courageously into their activism so that these horrific events might never happen to anyone else ever again. Then there are people like Michelle, McNamara, and Susan Jameson Bhanot who became de facto experts and cases that had nothing at all to do with them, and yet somehow lived at the center of their world's all different kinds of people history teachers, solving Psychopathic Ciphers, armchair detectives, Internet sleuths, bloggers, and writers, and directors and podcasters and journalists people like me and maybe people like you. The murder of Jon, Benet Ramsey, and its subsequent investigation has crystallized into something that feels closer to fiction. Than fact, it's become a movie of itself. There are characters, costumes, quotes. There are moments we know are coming. We wait for the footage or we wait for the reenacted moment where Patsy Ramsey says through tears in televised news report we know exactly the way she says it. Babe. If you even occasionally give into your sensational side. You'll have seen a dozen patsy Ramsey's this line, a dozen John, Ramsey's run into the wine cellar and fall to their knees a dozen mysterious sinister men crawl through the window in the night. But none of us have ever met this little girl this family and yet when the question of ethics comes up after a little boy smashes a fake skull covered in Pigskin we have our response. Doesn't America deserve an answer? Maybe, the question really is don't we need one? Standing in the Line now my items pulled toward the register full of cash I'm still pulled toward those tabloids beaming her same face back at me again and again year after year, and maybe you are too. She will always be hours. Jon. Benet she will always belong to us an American legend a dramatic sequined mystery in full red white and blue. This was American history. Next, time on the show, I'll be talking with the brilliant Rachel Monroe the author of savage appetites for true stories of women crime obsession a huge inspiration for this episode. Don't miss it and then join us in two weeks the night before the election for our long awaited episode on Fake News. The nonprofit we'd like to highlight for this episode is called the insight prison project, which works to transform the lives of those impacted by incarceration by designing and implementing rehabilitative programs designed to develop emotional and vocational skills and reduce recidivism learn more and donate at insight prison project, dot org, or click the link in our bio American hysteria is written produced and hosted by me Chelsea ever. Smith sound design by clear. Kamo. 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"patsy ramsey" Discussed on The Game Changing Podcast
"Kind of final exam would be best to see if they had learned in there was an old TV program call to tell the truth. Oh, TV program now they have it coming back I think Anthony Anderson hosted Sunday nights. When I do in the last night class is I would put a TV program in my classroom called to tell the truth so I would bring in three new individuals into my room at out of the three chew had to be imposters in one was of a trooper profess shit because I wanted to see if my classic catch who was lying. So the first semester that I taught it on that last night, I had brought out a nun I gone to. A Catholic school when I grew up. So I had a friend who was done. So I said to rise come to my class last night but do not wear your non habit just wear regular suit. Then I look for two other ladies who looked a bit nunly also. So as came in I would say, well, who are you in the I would say will I am sister Mary Teresa? Insect would say no no no, I am sister Mary Teresa third would say. The Real Mary Teresa. So what was going on then my class could ask them questions. Maybe one class members said to one of them, how beads are there on a rosary or does the priest really drink wine? So while my at my class was asking them questions, they were looking at the body language of three ladies and I had taught them how to spot a liar. So during the. Course of the questioning to impostures of course did some of the line gestures and that's how Mike Egeli big learned. That's measured. They could spot who the real sister. Mary. Therese. What's so you understand how we got started for me then from that local groups would say, Oh, you need to do this for Rotary Club Qantas Club and I would go do for no money I would just go do this. Speech of body language not even knowing you could end up earning money from it, and then it ended. You know just did win Kana crazy I just started doing it doing them. People kept calling me realize the value of it because when I first started researching people kind of snickered in the body language was a serious area kill. We had these big major trials. So we had OJ's trial which. I did input on that I. went on to John and Patsy Ramsey case I went on Scott Peterson case with onto Casey. Anthony's case all of these big cases that's where you got the impression of what is a jury salted in that's what I do. I'm a jury consultant. So when those warnings came out, didn't they started looking body language a little bit more seriously and just last night a are. Watching NBA and even the announcer saying look at their body language when they're walking away from the team huddle or by watching NFL. So people are always talking about it, and tonight is the first debate between the presidential candidates. So you know that I've be watching the debates Damore I'm going to report on several TV stations so that from the research I did that I started working for ABC, NBC and CBS They kept asking me to come on and report on someone's body. The first one ever did was a bill, Clinton's body language when he was in the Monica, Lewinsky's account. This do. You let's do this little experiment, any an ISA, just put your writing and up..
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on Mother, May I Sleep With Podcast?
"Know sawing away. His wife plugs his machine and he's like. Basically you gotta come. See what's on TV. So what's going to play out over the next? Like two and a half minutes is basically. The rest of the movie This is where we all wrap it up here so one twenty, two to one, hundred, fifty six to one twenty five. In a startling development in the Jon Benet Ramsey case in response to a lawsuit brought by Reporters Committee for freedom of the press, the court released today four pages of an eighteen page grand jury indictment secretly issued in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine against on Patsy Ramsey, charging the couple with two counts each child abuse, resulting in death, an accessory to murder. Andrea carry reporting live in Boulder.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe
"This is John Ramsey well. I subscribed John Douglas's theory John. Douglas it is the fellow that set up the FBI. Crime profiling program is probably the world's expert in that field. He looked at our case and came back and said this was not about Jon. Benet this was against you John. Some of these either really ambridge you were Joseph. You in wanted hurt. You welcome to episode six of the killing of Jon. Benet the final suspects. I'm your host. I Danielle Robea. We've put together a new team of investigators led by season reporter. Doug Lunn Jeanie and Jon benet expert Jameson to track down. A list of ten suspects led by Detective Smith before he died and possibly finally solve a murder that has baffled the world since one thousand nine hundred sex in this episode. We're on the trail of two men. Both with professional grudges against John Ramsey. I can imagine I read anybody money. That angry I mean it's unbelievable. He saw you may not even known. They made his to be observed you've from afar. We were in the paper. The couple of weeks before Christmas Our company's name was achieving sales. School that we were proud of you know they had my. I don't picture with Ed. My Name's early in Edo so it was so boring for me to to think that this was because of something I'd done or said or how I treated someone. But he said you may not even know higgins competitor. That is Su- survive. 'cause we did well that's that's possible I don't know that would have been Jon. Benet was found dead in the cellar of the Ramsey home on the day after Christmas. Nineteen Ninety six. Initially John and Patsy Ramsey believe their daughter had been kidnapped after patsy woke to find a long ransom note on the staircase. The note had a very specific demand for money. Here's Doug Lumbini. You Know Jameson. The ransom note says quote. You will withdraw hundred eighteen thousand dollars from your account. Then it goes on to describe the what types of bills the hundred and eighteen thousand is but one hundred and eighteen. Thousand is a pretty odd number and I understand it. John Ramsey during nineteen ninety six earlier nineteen ninety-six had gotten roughly that amount as a a bonus for his work that excess graphics through Laki. That had a seem pretty suspicious to the police. I I really don't understand. And why because if I had just had a party and advertised world had new story saying business had passed a billion with a B. A billion dollars in sales that year are people in my community. Knew I was rich and he was. He had over seven million dollars. I would not pick a silly amount. Like one hundred and eight hundred thousand dollars for ransom. I would wanNA tell the world. My daughters were a million or a true. I thought that the amount being one hundred in eighteen thousand made it look like a bogus ransom knelt and his fire is that amount is concerned to begin with. We don't know for sure sure that that's where the hundred thousand on from. Maybe it's a guy's house number or is electric building a month. We don't know for sure what it was but Hello John Ramsey bonus in February. I leave in eighteen nineties. One hundred and eight hundred thousand one hundred seventeen dollars and fifty cents. It was listed on every pay stub for me up until the time of the murder and John Ramsey. Their house was kind of cluttered. Anybody wanted creepy. Be Crawling in that house and go look around information on the RAMSEYS spending it. I think most people would look at amount for a bonus as being almost insulting. People are struggling to get by and he bonus of that and I think our person saw and was angered by it and when he wrote this August note because the head waste time before they got home. Instead of did I think that when he picked reince momentum. It was a stab at John Ramsey. As John Ramsey you could not even stay here daughters length but the cost of board bonus I think it was a slap in the face never to intended via ransom but just slap in takes.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe
"She said the reason Jason that she exonerated the Ramseys after her second. DNA testing match. The first was because the case was on a road road to try to convict the Ramseys and involved the death penalty and she didn't think they were guilty and she felt someone. Commissioner with authority even knows very unusual and highly criticized move should exonerate them. So should give tragically. Patsy Ramsey never lived to receive that exoneration in two thousand and two the ovarian cancer she had. I been diagnosed with in nineteen ninety three returned and she died in two thousand six at age forty nine. She is now buried next to her daughter here. She is speaking into investigators in nineteen ninety eight after the job. A Lot. More pressure for shooting shooting. Investigation the media whether Avenue interview. What what it's going to be aware if there is this gotta wear into the soul search for cope with it? I kind of thought myself. Get too tired contend fall in craw online depressed so I try to manage my health risks. Well Joe we have taken out the under the paper. Not just can't care because recent times that I had inadvertently themes of they learn new thing Ed Collins. I can't that was just like me in John. Ci Out because it's harmful you're watching the former detectives John San Agustin and Robert Whitson also believe that progress can still be made despite the mistakes of the past as we look at this case again. We look at the two theories whether or not there was an intruder who did this. The family and I will tell you that there are a number of investigators who have well over a couple hundred years of experience in and investigations. Who all say that? The murder of Jon Benet Ramsey was not done by the family but by intruders or an engineer. The problem is the Boulder Police Department. Still to this day will not come out and give any information on spend twenty three years I think at this point we need to come out and let people know what have you done. Have you looked at other people. Have you not looked at that other people. What are you doing still today? There are still a number of leads that have never been followed up by law enforcement is my understanding that approximately three thousand leads came into the Boulder Police Department and the onset of this investigation of which still still a number of them have never been followed. My understanding is there were are both fibers. Animal hairs that were never sourced so I had a source of ad here from the suspect. was that ever tested. I don't know they're not seeing anything anything. I was told that one of the neighbors two of the RAMSEYS and reported about a month before John. Benes murder order that there was somebody leaving cigarette butts in their backyard and I was told. Supposedly an officer responded and collected one of those cigarette butts. Now keep in mind this is prior to DNA. So it may have come into propping opinion evidence and because there was no DNA available you know discarded up like it was cap for a while the question is was that DNA from a cigarette butt ever test because we know in the asked that has been one of the methods of operation of sexist suspects where they will be in the area washing doing kind of surveillance of place that they wanNA break into and be out there smoking while they're you're watching the subject song and former grand jury member. Jonathan Webb agrees that DNA will be the key to finally securing justice for Jon. Benet the advances of analytical technology spend Jordan Attic and if money's was educated and the evidence was preserved my belief is and local technology could solve this crime. You'd have to have a dog detective. WHO's dedicated and focused funded well and given the best analytical tools and allowed to do his or her or work and if that is the case I think it would be solved next time on the killing of Jon Benet the final suspects ax discrediting the case against the RAMSEYS? The few people who are left in the Boulder Police Department still believed that John and or patsy Ramsey murdered their daughter. All of the jurors believed that the truth theory didn't hold water. It was almost like tunnel vision Asian. They were focused on Azi Ramsey and long buried recordings of police interviews with John Patsy and Burke Ramsey Z.. Here you know when when can rush.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe
"Jonathan Webb I lived in Boulder Colorado in the late nineties. I was a graduate student at the University of Colorado auto and then I was in his up. Potential Juror. The process of of a grand jury is where the prosecutor presents the information. There is no defense lawyers or personnel. There it's simply the prosecutor presenting the evidence us as they have found it. We were allowed to take notes. Ask questions of the witnesses and we saw a lot of information from and everything from individuals that were related to the case to handwriting. Experts to medical experts birt's doing autopsy etcetera. The one thing that really I've never forgotten is the testimony from Pediatric Edgar Forensic pathologist from the University of Miami and the shots of the we saw video and a lot of testimony Simoni and the manner in which someone dies With the type of injuries that Jon Benet had and time on course what is something that will never leave me in one thousand nine hundred nine. After a year of hearing testimony and being presented with evidence from the boulder police the grand jury returned with. What's called a true bill to charge the Ramseys with placing Jon Benet at risk in a way that led to her death breath in layman's terms? Kind of glorified child negligence not murder not manslaughter. Following that Boulder County A.. Alex Alex Hunter announced. He would not be prosecuting. The ramseys on any charges declaring that he did not believe that in a trial he could prove guilty beyond reasonable doubt based upon the evidence that we saw we were told the decision is a preponderance of the evidence or a grand jury which which means over fifty percent fifty point one percent or more that. You think someone might have done it then you vote to indict. That is not beyond a reasonable doubt. The evidence that I saw I if I sat on a regular jury. I would've never convicted anyway anyway because it wasn't to the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. So I think the. Da made the correct decision. And I was fine with it. I'm fine with the fact that it's still unsolved murder. I don't want that to be misinterpreted but I simply don't believe the evidence was there to convict anyone. It would have been wasted Chase that based upon the evidence at the time Alex Hunter made an announcement on a beautiful mutiple they in boulder and it was chaotic and there were people all over the place live trucks all over the place that was in that era. She walked down the stairs of the district attorney building and walked into a park reporting had been set up an Alex Hunter after the district. Attorney said there will not be charges filed in the Jon Benet Ramsey case and a world exploded because that it's not fat factory. Have you somebody responsible. After the Boulder District Attorney announced he would not be filing charges bowler place then continued to try to find ways to find John and Patsy Ramsey guilty the boulder police department have I said all along. Hey we looked at other people other than the ramseys but their focus remained on the Ramsey unable to proved the ramseys were guilty by means of actual detective work. The police even resorted to underhanded tactics as this Fox News report from nineteen ninety nine shows. I'm John and Patsy Ramsey at home but not entirely at peace the death their daughter haunting them everywhere and they found out there appears to be no refuge or sanctuary. John and Patsy Ramsey had planned to talk to us at Jonbenet's grave site but when they found out that the boulder police had bugged this area near their daughters water's resting place during the investigation. They were too offended to come here. They should have some dignity just disappointing.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe
"People in the house in her body was found with homicides wanted the first thing detect Tuesday look at. Who's in the area? Who's near the scene or who's in the home with? That's where it happened. And so they looked at John and Patsy Ramsey but it in my opinion go way out of control in that it seemed that John and Patsy Ramsey were the only ones they were looking at for her daughter's murder. Here's fellow. Detective Johnson Augustyn who outlines just a few the reasons why Lou smit believed intruder killed Jon Benet typically in my experience and I've probably investigated well over over a few hundred death investigations. I would tell you that when you're looking at a murder like his parents typically if the parents are involved either say something. That was an accident accident. They may say something like I struck down but never have I seen in my career. Anything where stun gun strangulation in a blow to the Eh all happened as well as sexual assault they can find no prior application of the row. That was used to strangle Jon Benet. Meaning they found no other rogue in the house matching their wealth that was used to strangle her. The tape that was used to put over her mouth. There was no prior application. That tape found anywhere in Hong either. And why would the parents if they were planning on killing their daughter. Why would they take her from her bedroom? Sexually assaulted or stun-gun stun-gun her twice strangled her and then subsequently striker head and then stage your body in the basement in a cellar an then go write a ransom. No none of that made sense in her twenty three years reporting on in conducting inducting her own investigation into the case. Paula Woodward his come to know John as Father John Ramsey very well. John Ramsey has a very deep faith in spite of everything that has happened to him. His daughter's murder has become his life but he also has made sure sure that he has time in his life for Burke in his two other children John Andrews and Melinda that's very important to him he has remarried worried a wonderful woman after patsy died in the early two thousands shown elise her killer will be found. She doesn't know how he just know when you just know where that is part of his belief of faith and I guess that's the best way I can express listen. I think it's critically important that any possible leads are checked out if someone has the courage and tenacity to do so this this is such an important case because of all the wrong with that anyone who does something to further the investigation on this case should be lighted. It's really important and somebody knows something. One of the big questions in this case is with the family family did not do it to get right. Is it an intruder. Are there other suspects out there. That could have been involved in this. Are there other suspects that need to be looked at absolutely absolutely. Should there be other suspects Dean as collected absolutely and the problem in this case is that law enforcement was so focused on the family that they never allow themselves to truly investigate the facts of this case still today. There are still a number of leads that have never been followed up by law law enforcement.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe
"The first thing I noticed before even analyzed and a note is that it was very long like two and a half pages long ransom notes are very short. You know we have give daughter. Is that much. Money will not be in contact for this. No as I mentioned went on for two and a half pages contain information. You generally don't sign in a ransom note. It's such as make sure you bring an adequate size attache to the banks town the Ramseys to be rested at stop just as appear in legitimate ransom notes and and then we also have to remember. The note was written on their stationery with their pen in their house. Now most kidnappers right. Durant's note ahead of time and then they bring yeah no wisdom that this person entered their residents while they were out to dinner at night. Sounds and paper. wrote this ransom note and wave them to return no- he looks for a pen and paper in the middle of the night they figures not a problem. These are colleges associated. People have pen and paper. He finds it he starts art charade. A ransom note doesn't like the beginning of it because he knows one day. It'll be a communication of great interest starts again and that's when he races note we represent a small foreign faction. Another strange detail was the amount of money the supposed kidnappers of Jon Benet were demanding for her return. Paula Woodward explains in the ransom. Note the two and a half patriots and note there was a specific demand for money. One hundred hundred eighteen thousand dollars which was just very strange. Very mysterious added to the mystery of this crime. Why would someone asks for one hundred and eighteen eight thousand dollars and initially? The police leaked that John Ramsey had received a bonus that year in data amount which which wasn't true it was close to that amount but not that amount John Ramsey was a millionaire. And here's this ransom. Note asking for the return of Estado for one hundred eighteen thousand dollars. It didn't make sense. It's still doesn't make sense now. Everything a person says has a meaning and there's a reason why they use one hundred eighteen thousand dollars dollars. I mean first of all. It's a very low amount to me. I believe the Ramseys at that time were worth maybe six million dollars so one hundred eighteen thousand dollars very the low amount. We expect him to say a million maybe half also why one hundred eighteen thousand I mean why not just a hundred thousand one hundred sixty thousand. Yes just very very odd odd number frenzy. Pathologist Cyril Wecht outlines the case against the intruder theory this intruder knows how to get it into the house there in Boulder without causing any disturbance. He knows where the little girls bedrooms is. He's able to awaken her. Take her from Maroon without causing any disturbance her nine year old brother. Burke Ramsey is just right next door not awakening him at all. Now get this picture picture. The police palm side detectors at the house looking for the body of this little girl never knew there was a door never knew there was a room but under the intruder theory. We are to believe that shooter having accomplished everything knowing about this back a set of stairs knowing about the back room. He knew all this he took the little girl there and then having had his perverted sexual pleasure with the little girl he decides. He's going to kill her and then he's going to write a ransom of forgot to bring a pen and paper. Didn't even bring the rope the rope as from material right there in the house he forgot Jon. Benet Ramsey's body you. You just wrote a ransom note demanding money. You went to war of his trouble. You had the behavioral strengthen in control to accomplish all of this and the dead of the night so. You're not flustered or hurried. You're doing all of this stuff and now you've written the not manning this money and then you leave you. Don't take the body. Take the body. Put Him in the back of your car. So it's been a sore throat in Ford and awards thrown in a river toward the lake. Do do whatever you want to. Suddenly John and Patsy Ramsey after losing their daughter in the most horrific of circumstances found themselves prime suspect back in her murder John Ramsey patsy Ramsey Burke Ramsey and Jon Benet Ramsey.
Examining the 911 call of the JonBenet Ramsey case
"Fine-tuning what's going on okay. Noteworthy left in your daughter. How old is your daughter important? How long ago was the same ransom? Note here it's a random victory place Okay what's your name. Are you okay. How long she she thinks we do? Tweet I am honey. I take a deep breath told okay. Thank you for the beautiful trailer for this week. Here captain and thank you for playing patsies nine one one call now just to clear up any type of confusion. I think we should jump right into a transcript of that nine one one call so we can all have a clear understanding what is said on both ends ends from the nine one one operator as well as Patsy Ramsey when nine one one picks up the call. Patsy Ramsey says police on one. What's what's going on Ma'am Patsy Ramsey? Seven fifty five Fifteenth Street. What's going on there Ma'am Patsy? We have a kidnapping hurry please. He's nine one one explained to me what's going on. Okay patsy there we have A. There's a note left and our daughter's gone nine. One one note was left in your daughter's gone patsy. Yes nine one one. How old is your daughter? She is six six years old. She's blonde six years old. How long ago was this patsy? I don't know I just got the no in my daughter's gone nine one one. Does it say who took her patsy. What nine one one does it say? Who took her Pazzi? No I don't know there's a ransom handsome. No here nine one. It's a ransom note patsy it. SAYS SB T sea victory. Please nine one one okay. Okay what's your name or you Cath Asi Patsy Ramsey on the mother. Oh my God please nine one one. Okay I'm sending an officer Sir over okay patsy please nine one one. Do you know how long she's been gone. No I don't please. We just got up and she's not here here. Oh my God please nine one one okay. Cal- patsy please send somebody nine one. I am honey patsy. Please nine one one take a deep breath and patsy. She says hurry. Hurry hurry nine. One one says Pazzi Pazzi Pazzi. At the start part of this call. It appears the Patsy Ramsey is asking for the police. Now we only hear her say police. There are some reports that state that that that is inaudible that we cannot tell what Patsy is saying in that first line yeah. There's some people that speculate that she actually goes to say ambulance and and cuts herself off and says police. She's immediately asked what is going on to which she responds giving her address again. What is going on there ma'am? She states dates. We have a kidnapping hurry please. What I decipher from this? Very quick little snippet at the beginning of the call is I kind of think good and bad when we look at the the scales of Justice in regards to Patsy Ramsey. She's doing exactly what I would expect a mother who is terrified. Ah what could be going on. Her daughter's gone and found a ransom. Note right she is asking for the type of help that she needs police. She is asking. She is stating where she is located and immediately stating stating the problem at hand we kidnapping and then asking hurry please. We've gone through a lot of these nine one one calls over the years. Yeah yeah they drive me nuts. One thing that I've always called into question is when we have a lengthy call and the person is failing to ask for help to respond to the situation until later in the call right here this call roughly is about. I was trying the time it. It's roughly it's a little over a minute. Forty two seconds or something and we have within seven seconds of the call all she is actually asking for help. She's asking for someone to respond to the scene right so I think a good sign for patsy where I say that I think a bad sign signed for Patsy is and this might be just too much speculation on my part but it almost appears to me and somewhat of a manner that she I believe that she could ask for the type of help that she wants police or ambulance. She states where they are located and states. The problem at hand kidnapping happing part of me wonders if she thought that the conversation was going to go any further than that right it okay. Now I'm off the hook. I've made this call. I've told told them to help that. We need. Let's wait for them to respond very good here. We had the nine one one operator asking again. Explain to me what is going on. Okay okay one thing that I will point out that I think is good for Patsy. Ramsey here is unwilling. You mean good good in the sense that let's say she's innocent of any wrongdoing. She goes immediately into we have A. There's a note left in our daughter's gone meaning. Where my first suspicion was that this? This conversation was going to be over soon as she said. There's a kidnapping please hurry right. Then she's asks what is going on. She without hesitation goes into what is going on. She doesn't stumble. You know like I would expect somebody that has has a lot to hide to possibly stumble at that point in the conversation. A lot up. Yeah a lot of us And then there several back and forth about you know our daughter's daughter's gone and there's a note here. She gives a brief description. The at six years old she's blonde. She's a six year old girl down a lot of people label give her a check mark in the and the guilty column for never saying her daughter's name but in fairness to Patsy Ramsey. She's never asked what the daughter's name is. How old is she Karachi your name correct and then we do have a portion here where I find it interesting that nine one one is okay? What's your name? Are you calf so there. Several there are several versions Asians of this call out there right. I find this one to be the most complete one that I have seen and so I'm going with this one. I hear a her. Say The operator. Say Our Cath. which just I find that interesting? Because it doesn't she doesn't seem to know where the calls coming from from at that time almost she's GonNa ask her are you Kathleen or Kathy right but yeah I think it's probably just inaudible and and that's the closest somebody could put down to decipher so I have patsy Ramsey. Of course she's asking for help numerous amorous times asking that they please hurry numerous times throughout this call even in this very short call six or seven seconds into. It is the first time that she asked for our help. And then again around the forty second mark and basically the whole second half of the call is her asking for help or for them to please hurry. Okay so where I always stand on. Those is if we have a situation where somebody calls nine one one and they are not asking for help. Because that's essentially that's all nine one on one is therefore for you to call and request help assistance of some sort. Yeah my issue with a lot of these non one causes is just the the lack of calmness and and obviously that's easier said than done but yes you read the note you yelled for your husband you ran to your husband. You had some kind of conversation with your husband. He reads the note and he says AAC Copley's which one have the two individuals. We know which ones calmer John Ramsey. So maybe you should call because like you said after you asked for help. Maybe that's that's where you think it should stop. Its where it doesn't stop so nine one one is going to keep you whoever calls on the line as long as they can unless unless you have really good reason to not be on the call. Yeah this this call also gets put into question because I would think when you start talking to somebody and saying hey we have emergency. Here's where we're at by me talking to you. The reason why they keep you on the phone is to start calming you down. So as you as the call progresses. Patsy doesn't get more calm. I think this this to me is either a sign that she's faking it. And she's a drama queen or this says happening in real time on. This happened so quickly and as they're asking her questions she still processing the fact that her kid is gone on. And what the hell are we going to do. And one of the things I find really interesting. I believe John. Douglas talks about this. This is one of the key things that he believes that she didn't know much about the note and go get to the note later. Ballade people speculate that she wrote it while she wrote it and they said WHO's the note from that if she was really familiar with the note she she would adjust said as BTC. But it's almost like she asked flip to that part of the note and then she reads from down to upwards reads S. B. T. C.. That makes no sense so she goes to the next word to try to find the answer S. B. T. C.. Nope that's not a good answer victory. Oh that's not good answer either she. I'm saying so. If somebody is more familiar with the no they probably went out. Read from down to up probably when it had to flip to the back To the third page aged to find the answer. That's assuming that that she's doing that. But it sounds like the way she's describing things on that nine one one call. It sounds as if that that is in fact what she is doing. Yeah it'd be very good acting. I would think if she's faking. That you said Drama Queen. I do believe she took some trauma courses. This is the in high school or College. I B here's what drives me. Nuts is like on the where always constantly going. Well here's how I would've reacted or this is how I think somebody should react. Where because if you did if John Ramsey called and said my name is John Ramsey my my daughter Jon Benet Ramsey's missing? She's six years old she's blonde. She's about however tall that they would persecute him for being into com- Not being emotional enough right well I to me. I don't try to look too much into the to try to figure throughout the emotions of the person making the call. I never do that. My whole thing is just I always question win. They are finally asking for help. Because that's that's what nine one one is. It's truly a life line. It is their only to be asking for help and Dan when somebody is in a situation as severe as this. I expect them to be asking for help very quickly in the call and the reason why I always reference that is because if it's a put on if you're only calling nine one one because you feel that that's what you are supposed to do or how you are supposed to act in the situation and you in fact it something terrible then really. You don't want help to show up inside deep down inside you. You're hoping it's delayed as possible because you don't want to have to explain anything to anyone right because you don't want them to know what you've done so I always take that into account when I when I listen these. I never tried to listen to the emotion because as you very Very well pointed out. We don't know how each one of us would behave or react to these different situations. We there is no right way to act or wrong way to behave on these calls and the car gets a little more interesting at the end because there is no okay. See you later or will be here waiting. There's no and end and that's where I believe possibly at that point. John Ramsey is trying to tell patsy Ramsey. Something there's something going on at that House that is pulling her attention away from the phone call in that point. Gone that minute and and forty some seconds on the phone to that mother could have felt like an hour so she might have been like look. I said all I need to say now. There's stuff going on here And now I'm talking to these individuals than the phone hangs up and it's always been kind of a mystery what it has been said at the Ed this is from a two thousand sixteen story on Bustle Dot Com. There's long been debate Over what exactly happened at the tail end of the of the recording was some arguing. The call did not immediately disconnect after patsy hung up the receiver and that a third voice can be heard the nine one one tape has been analyzed nine times nine different times by everyone
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on Heartland Radio 2.0
"Dixie like piggies. Do you have any thoughts on Jon Benet Ramsey case. Now there's anything that sticks out to you all all right and and I've been I was on to is in in September. Sixteen every news outlet and talk show outlet in the country. Did a special on it. The Dr Phil Show they got John Ramsey. And Burke Ramsey who is nine years old at the time of the prime her brother other at the time of the show is nineteen and they asked me they called me and they said we're just feeling out and they said where. Do you stand on the Jon. Benet Ramsey case I said Oh that's easy that's the case and the DNA points to an unknown male and No one in the family or in the family sphere of family of friends and whatnot. has tested positive for that and I said it. It's really means. A Stranger Ranger came in the house and killed her in the basement and got away with it and they said we want you on the show and There were some other shows shows. A one of them resulted. CBS Did a show and basically they had a couple retired. FBI profiler one of them said Patsy wrote the note and the other ones said. I said I along with a A famous forensic pathologist whose name escapes me but basically they painted the picture To fit their theory rather than following the evidence there evidence she had unknown own male. DNA in her and on her she was. She was tortured. Her hands were tied with UH OF COMPLEX NOT. That's an adult crime committed. That's an adult sex crime committed by a post pugh doesn't meal on what we know is a six year old girl that's what it is and They actually the the show that gotten so much trouble with. CBS and ended up in a seven hundred and fifty million dollar lawsuits for anybody that said John and Patsy Ramsey were involved vault in the murder of their daughter in any way or that did it and this one show they said Burke did it. PATSY covered it up and everybody ended up on on on the lawsuit and they had to settle out of court. Because you can't go around you know unless you say it is my opinion Blah Blah Ah Blah but all the experts that looked at that note no one and I mean super experts. No one was able to say it was identical to Pazzi. He Patsy San writing in like five out of six things that you look for. Nobody can say that but this retired. FBI agent felt comfortable. People saying it and he ended up in a lawsuit in a field. That subjective anyway I mean yes. It's yes yeah you can always right and you can always find one hired gun you know. I always tell people you find somebody to say anything if it's a field. A forensics that has any amount of subjectivity. To it you can find a higher Aghanistan GonNa say whatever you want dangerous business. I didn't know about that lawsuit. So yes you can't bring in an expert about six months ago. Seven hundred and fifty million dollars it was against. CBS was against production company. It was against everybody that participated that said or implied. That John Ramseyer BURP. Did it or patsy covered up and the thing about it is I've known about that lawsuit for ten. I've known that ten years or maybe fifteen years that the ramseys and even patsy before she died the Ramsey sue. Anybody that said they had anything anything to do with their daughter's murder and one and one COP is judgment. A COP that wrote a book. How patsy Ramsey killed her daughter I think it was successfully sued for seventy five million dollars? I mean you can't go around. Doing that with a lot of people are surprised to hear what I just you said that it's a DNA kate of unknown DNA. That means someone got in that Charles got. That girl brought her down to the basement. And the way does she was killed is indicative of a post Pugh bessant a person. It was an adult sex claim. ona-led little girl. That's the scariest this monsters. The king comes thing of horror. Movies comes into your own house in. Does that to your child. That's the worst almost a guy in this room. That's cringing right now. Because because he is posted opinion a couple of times on on. Who's done in that case they're talking about shows with credibility not So we have also said it was a data. Yes the and you know what. That's not nearly as publicized as all these other theories of keeping you know suspects in house because there's less drama associated with the right it's not as good. TV The DNA. Okay was available Lynn there was the grand jury and and Alex Hunter of the the state's attorney at the time made the decision the jury wanted pins wanted to move forward with charges against the RAMSEYS and L. Center said no because he knew about the DNA. The Boulder police as department was much happier of clinging to their belief that the ramseys did it. Then looking at truth which is No they didn't not only that look at Burke. At Burke at the time was nine years old he was in pre pugh bessant and this was an advanced sex crime right now disassembled. Show your it happens all the time police make the mind up and HR so much time. China make evidence fit their theory. They lose awesome. It's time really should be confirmation bias you you you try to somebody so for doing that. And it's like okay Do do you ever confusing on your behalf. Like trying to get back to the active shooters real quick but like running in with other agencies. He's like overlapping on investigations. Like that or were you like exclusive enough and what you did. It didn't matter you were kind of beyond that it didn't matter and One of the things I learned early in my career working with local cops like Chicago. PD in San Francisco PD is really early on in in in working case I would say hey How do you know how nice to meet you Blah Blah Blah? I used to be a nurse at northwestern and that broke the ice when the new that I was more than an FBI agent and cops love nurses. Hey it's back Dating I never had the problem. Yeah okay so the active shooters. They're trying to get inside the minds and make get a thorough more thorough understanding of why it's happening and what triggers these individuals is. There is there hope like his seems i. I mean it's almost an epidemic now like its its talked about domestic terrorism. I mean it's not one person doing acts over and over that we don't know of. It's always one individual adjoining get caught or killed. But it's almost like like you have this Colt of connected people. They're not but you know we have these random acts all all the time and people are just scared to death. Should be like we're gonNA make any progress. It's so how well it's you know one of the things when we've learned and by studying them is that in most cases in whether whether it's a high school teen or or it's The guy that shot up the Las Vegas Music than you wrote. In most cases there is something thing that is called leakage on the part. It's a behavior on the part of the shooter. Okay and what that is they tell someone in or they drop a clue that they're going to do it and it's ignored and so one of things. I mean it. We we are educating the public for the El Paso Walmart shooter. The mother of the thunder actually called the police and said my son is is amassing weapons and saying things that make me uncomfortable. I want you to come over and take these away. He's too immature to to do stuff like this And it didn't work it. The big problem is it putty lawfully go. Just take the guns from me. You know if we're GonNa let teenagers have and in most states you can have a gun done before you can have a beer your kid in Texas you have a shotgun like you wanted a early age of a rifle all all these things. Yeah Yeah Yeah so anyway. It's it's the problem what I tell people when I told my son growing up. He's forty forty four now. And what what I tell young people that I run run into. If we're getting room conversation is don't mess with people when you're out in about going going about your business maybe going shopping. Maybe playing soccer at school. Whatever you're doing You're you're writing a bus crowded bus. Don't mess with people so you don't know who you're dealing with even today like I used to. I would have a little bit of a temper. Somebody like you know. We're trying to live a parking spot. The dispute or whatever and they yell something back mom. It's not worth jumping out an assault rifle. Lighten up my car right now. So yeah you can have it. A friend of mine had three teenage daughters. This is back when I was an active. FBI agent and one of her daughter was real. Sassy and cocky and and and you know for teenage girls can be and she hate candy. this guy down at I just flipped them off. I took her by the hand. I sat down down. I said Okay when you talk You may you're okay now. You got away with it this time you may have slipped off a serial killer Dr who will follow you home and kill you when he gets the opportunity and that did happen not to her but There is a Critique crime writer last name Olsen Not Glenn Olsen but I think it's jackals and wrote a a story or wrote an account of a serial Serial killer about ten fifteen years ago. The book actually made me sick parts of it were and he was a long haul trucker CONAN cross country killing people And he actually had family Mary now a family which by the way. It's an uncommon with serial killers. And Anyway Wonder One day. He drove into the parking lot of the grocery store and a car in front of him or or when around him the spot I and flipped him off. She was flipping off a serial killer. He waited he did. He looked at hurry. Smiled right. Then he was making plans. thatt's flip offers offers killer killer That would be my luck man waves that what was that. I ended up getting resolved in Illinois. Get caught in Illinois. I'm not sure I don't think they tend to blend Before I let you go and I appreciate you spending this time. I realize we went over. I think what we were expected to do. And I can't thank you enough for Kolonics fascinated by it and we. Would you have one case that you're most proud of or they like you remember like man. You know what this is. This made everything that I've gone through this point worth it on my came in on Saturday morning and in the East Bay of California -Fornia Oakland. We had word that the night before a convicted child molester had kidnapped a kid and he had the kid with them and he bought tickets For the nine. Am Bus to San Diego. And so we were all there saturating place he never showed and supervisor said let's go over the Amtrak station we go over there Amtrak station Saturday morning People all over the place..
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins
"Look kitchen window. It's Ramsey residents observe the upper the kitchen lights were on and dimmed low does mean an intruder was in the house would an intruder turn on the lights if they were. I doubt it it means someone from the Ramsey. Household was still awake. Nobody said they were more likely though so for a snack still wanna down for the day thinking about a cover up a murder a to another neighbor Melody Stan allegedly really here's a scream from within the ramseys home her husband and reportedly here's the sound of metal on concrete sometime after the scream years later melody would backtrack on that statement stating that she actually heard the noise two nights prior. If at all memory such a funny thing seems to be the most reliable right when you're closest to the event time Weiss closer into the incident. You're trying to call recall which just makes sense like if something happened you a few hours ago and you had to give a police report about an hour from now. Don't you think that your report is going to be more accurate accurate then if you had to describe what happened ten years from now that's a big problem with this investigation. People say one thing years later say another yeah we've learned about false memory syndrome multiple times sir on the on the suck memory very very tricky thing things we think can be so real can be completely made up our heads the morning of December twenty six the family gets up at five thirty. Am they were supposed to fly to Charlevoix Michigan for the little family vacation at the one of the other homes while Mr Ramsey shower Mrs Ramsay put back on the same outfit she had on on the night before reapplied or makeup. That's what she say. Find us a bit odd for lady who liked to show how together put together. She was but we're gonNA advocation so maybe she was in vacation. Mode and just didn't care does seem suspicious if you think she could have been one of the ones that did it or did it. I found a few reports said Patsy Ramsey also the second floor of her home to rinse out a pair of Jeans Jumpsuit Pajamas. She apparently soiled the night before then went downstairs to the kitchen to make coffee many have speculated that anger anger over Jon Benet continual bedding led to patches role in an accidental murder and then intentional cover up around five forty five. Am Mrs Ramsay heads downstairs reports finding finding a two and a half page note on a back staircase in the house. Patsy says she only initially read a bit of the notes regime kidnapped with safe and unharmed. The kidnappers wanted one hundred eighteen thousand dollars in cash more this crazy no in a bit upon reading part of that note patsy reportedly immediately screened proceeded to check Japanese Room. She found it to the empty ever hear Mrs Ramsay Scream. Mr Ramsey ran downstairs met Mrs Ramsay in the Stairwell together. They checked on their son who appear to be sleep his room Mr Ramsey then went downstairs to read the ransom note will Mrs Ramsay immediately called Police Patsy dials nine one one at five fifty two a m. She's understandably. Hysterical doesn't answer the operator's raiders questions very well. Here's the short transcript of this nine. One one call patsy Ramsey starts with police. What's going on Ma'am seven five five fifteen th st what's going on there? Ma'am we have a kidnapping hurry. Please explain to me what's going on. Okay there we have there's a note left our daughter's gone a note was left and your daughter's gone yes. How old is your daughter? She six six years old. She's blonde six years old. She just one Colorado Little Miss Christmas on December seventeenth. She got a medal for talent in the Colorado All star Christmas pageant just four days. Please help. We have a Michigan Pageant Day. You have to help me find. We have a hair bleach appointment tomorrow. Aw It's really hard to reschedule with Georgio please. We have rhythm worked over the choreographers meeting at noon to me. Sorry that's progress aggressive but I had to break it up. I knew going in that was tasteless but I felt compelled to continue a I'll show myself out myself out all all paths. He actually said it was six years old. She's blonde back back to the real transcript all right. How long ago was this? I just got the note my daughter's gone. Does it say who took Kerr. What does it say who took her? No I don't know there's there's a ransom note here. It's a ransom note it says sp victory please okay. What's your name? Are you patsy Ramsey. I'm the mother Oh my God please okay. I'm sending an officer over okay please. Do you know how long she's been gone. No I don't please. We just got up. She's not here. Oh my God. Please okay. Please send somebody I am honey. Please take a deep breath. Hurry Hurry Hurry Pazzi. Ah Pazzi Pazzi Pazzi patchy hangs up the phone which many forensic psychologist question when your situation like that when your daughter has just been take it. You don't know who's in the house you other members. Your family are still endanger. The phone is your lifeline to the outside world. Why would you hang it up? However to play devil's advocate everyone handles tragedy and stress differently? If you're panicking who knows what you're GonNa do also we actually had a couple of law enforcement friends about nine one one hangups and they said it happens all the time but check out this very very interesting twists on the hangup patchy puts down the phone because she thinks she's hung up the phone but it didn't hang up all the way the operator can still hear vaguely what's going on. No one is quite sure what happens after this because the tape is very fuzzy but it's been the subject of a lot of investigation by everyone from the FBI to the Secret Service the Boulder Police Department later send this tape to a company called the Aerospace Corporation which then analyzed it was super sophisticated sound enhancement equipment aerospace never releases its findings the Jon Benet case is still open technically in boulder so they still won't release it but the national enquirer supposedly got a hold of this audio footage and leaked it in two thousand and three and I know I I know it's a national enquirer just about the least reliable news alad in the world not quite as bad as the weekly world news entails a Batboy but not good however boulder's olders daily camera also reported on your hands audio right when the enquirer leaked it and reported quote. The general content of the transcript in the supermarket tabloid is accurate according to sources familiar with the investigation so I think it's definitely worth sharing this. Here's a transcript of what may have been said after patsy thought should hung up the phone on Patsy can then be heard Saint Helen. She's helped me Jesus then in the distance. There's another voice thought to be jonbenet's brother Burke. This is very important. This voice has pleased. What do I do and then John Ramsey? We think can be heard saying sharply to were not speaking to you and then Patty says helped me Jesus help me Jesus then she may have also said it's very tricky to properly a decipher this even for the audio experts but she may also said what did you do help me. Jesus seizes then more clearly burke can be heard saying what did you find. This doesn't prove anything about the actual murders but the Ramsey would later tell the police that burke was asleep leap the entire time if they're lying about that why furthermore although the operator couldn't tell what they were saying the time without enhanced audio she would later report port the tone dramatically changed when patsy thought the phone hung up Patsy was no longer hysterically babbling talking quietly while John spoke clearly and deliberately and Burke didn't seem scared or worried in a recent CBS documentary the case of Jon Benet Ramsey does operate says it sounded rehearsed and she wished initial lead investigators had heard her side of the story very interesting before we knew the time this case. Let's look further into this ransom note. It's very ought it may be the most important clue in this whole case for the sake of being thorough but I'm gonna read the whole thing Mr Ramsey listen carefully. We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction what small vaction no party believed for a second. That's true two sentences in and this feels Monica Nigerian e mail scam that does a real ransom note now just like some bullshit like we transfer can much money's into account. Please praise God. I have no time much of due to illness. Bank contact cannot take needed transferred. Could you help out of goodness hearts and give us bank info for us too much funds to you if you could wire just small amount of one thousand dollars. US To us to authorized transfer we feel trust to are you one million dollar knowing you are good person person of God the real note we do respect your business but not the country that it serves at this time. We have your daughter in our possession. She is safe and unharmed and if you want to see her now if you want her to see.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on Plz Advise
"That's Texan connect to seven four one seven four one. Okay. But all of that said, I want to say that I can hear because you are you're in a lot of pain, and like you're try you're definitely like trying to make light of it mask it which I understood as a defense mechanism. Yeah. But. The pain that you are feeling is so palpable, and so real, and I can like I can feel that big time. And I can't imagine anything more hurtful, and I think most people agree that like them someone nothing someone you love could probably never do. Something more hurtful to you than tell you that they're out of love with you. It hurts then probably variety of things. So I'm to say after being together for a while, you know years. Yeah. So I'm gonna turn the mic over to anyone else. But yeah. Yeah. I mean. I'm so sorry. Right. Right. That's like, it's awful and. I'm actually I. I actually think it's sort of. Really impressive admirable and kind of kind of like an amazing gift an an amazing place to find yourself in that you're so in touch with herself is right there man that self preservation is ready to kick in. But she's in the throes of it like she's literally calling us from what I assumes the play. She's crashing because she just heard this. Yeah. And like she's already on the phone reaching out. Yeah. I think I think it's it seems a logical. But as awful as it is I feel like you're in. In in as good a place as you can be really for. What is is a horrible awful situation as I think a lot of people. Every day. And then in response is something that's so acutely painful. I think everybody's impulses to avoid pain. And you you you sort of hinted at ways you could do that. But it seems like you're right there in it. And I think that's a good thing. I don't have a problem with the quick out van bomb after life changing information when you look back on those interviews of Patsy Ramsey. She's Zand out of her mind. We never talked about that. We always were like she seems weird. But like now looking back it's like, oh, those are benzoate. Now, we know what those are called a problem with taking a couple out of in and sitting by pool, obviously, not swimming after dark. It's okay to take the teeth out of the bite so to speak for two hundred percent. And like in like, I'm just impressed by how like you have your literal wits about you that you are trying to make jokes in see the light in this in like of know that like you probably don't need to do that with us. But like like, you could be very vulnerable not after lake sort of mask. But I think that's how you deal which makes me feel it. You're right. You're going to be on the other side of a year and a half. I am like so excited for you. Because I can tell you how this spirit in this drive. You don't have kids you can move on as cleanly as possible, I will suggest if it's if it's if you wanna move forward with divorce try and do as much of it outside of lawyers as possible. Yeah. So that you can start your life up again, people get really caught up in that especially when there's hurt. Yeah. And sometimes it can be like really easy to forget that you're paying five hundred dollars an hour to sort this out and you both just wanna move on. Now. You know? Yeah. But you deserve like you deserve the best. You know? I really do feel like you're a good person. Yeah. Like, you have I do love Austin, Texas. You're right. Yeah. I'm sorry that she you're feeling so much pain right now, it looks like you're adjusting a little bit accordingly. Terms of like, I don't know what to do right now. I don't know if I should drink coffee or go swimming. And like that's the short time period. You can look forward to like get through your day than like, that's how you need to pay out your day..
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on Super Station 101
"You know stay classy i mean we have just that and then approved on kids on can you imagine my gosh yes we can you imagine your eight year old going to school but which goes back to the they held monkey shirt like on pace look at an engage in an normally out of my big mouth about everything but that was one thing i in engaging because his mother you know approved of it but now that i'm looking at this it's like are you guys in your kids are who yawns industry because we know that happened that's our pedophilia happens so or are they just taking pictures and then digitally putting the shirt on them so the parents don't know but still lie we we we go from monkeys to slave were it also raises the question that you just you know you'd touched on there for for brief roma toy is our some people expressing their bigotry through their children in in but i mean you've got those helicopter little league parents that are living vicariously through their brats and soccer kept players and football and and family mom was the day the dance team mom and the homecoming queen merdza it's okay to have your kids doing these things but if that's your geared that the basis of uh you know your existence soon don't get me started on the debate over aginast of young girls f discuss data i'll go all zhaobin aaa on your royal my gosh that lady what's her name on the one that petty ramsey now the one that's going to jail oh yeah oh my gosh she was telling her students to you have to beat the debt diw you have to dance like this you have to pretend you make it alpha among the little girls were like at their mouth open like i don't wanna be naked right royal disturbing well there it was law debate of whether or not you know patsy ramsey was melt rate was living through jonbenet ramsey but this in a i love these these adult against you know it's almost like got this you know munchausen bribe proxy aspect to it so i i just it's just disgusting to.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on News Talk 710 KNUS
"I read it we call it darcy a and it's got some sex parts but that's could holly terry the lobbyists to the kids in the blood saarc of initiating sexually provocative talk at lunch sacks depending himself saying no she came to me with talk about her own sexual escapades and she was the one who is talking in a sexually promiscuous way the same with faits winter on my radio show he tells faith winner came onto him at a democrat retreat talked about how many times she had sex with her husband and biting him into a hot tub which i understand may have been in her hotel room so i got a letter from steep loved sox x y saying that she stands by stephen she not happy about the divorce but she doesn't believe that he did this faith winter so i don't know what the truth is but mike robertson pick kept talking about and steve website took a polygraph he's trying to approve senate sent but when everybody assumes should guilty then it doesn't matter what should do everything is used against him so uh it's unclear exactly who is going to caucus wear uh but he he is definitely not uh quietly going away his i mean it's amazing um i i don't know that the polygraph part of this and you and i spoke about that that was right are the john and patsy ramsey handbook i mean it was lutely that was beauty absolutely i anybody who thinks that uh you know uh having a polygraph done by your god for any bank here is uh his threeman but yeah he's he claimed swept past two different polygraph test proving that he didn't do all of these many many uh uh terrible things of which yesmen accuse so look i mean i covered the my empty case not every ten reminds me of ramzi and that state legislature mandates polygraph spurt sex offenders so they must put some value anna maybe westward could opera polygraph too steep labs hardcore we can take up a collection round hair lab sought protests his innocence and again i wasn't there stone is i was not apply on what i've never met steve loves i can tell yesterday but i'm tony is not going away is he hits alleging a.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on News/Talk 710 KNUS
"The deal be gift beautiful gorgeous we've got with a john lagarto youth the united marine retired he's the former specially for the fbi um great to have you back yanni john good morning how are you talking joy we're good thank you and good so in york prior career ayew pie tip of wanna talk about the grand jury probe that was announced muller at that i guess revealed leaked and this past week i'm in you participated in grand juries is that right eric heart manic okay what do you make of all of this well you've archrivals thickness morning that i i know of no grand jury there have ever not returned to cuba or an indictment rhode island's record my buying uh the only one we know of is the john boehner well would actually the judge has a case and then it can lead to fight antlers but their path you'd refused the right years later we find out that they actually did vote telling guy john and patsy ramsey and then in that case the da who who didn't want to prosecute him just declined it to file the charges say gifted secret for ten years say you're right i guess yeah no grand jury says no nothing here ha well you know the grand your own off you know to make up in that process but it is a federal grand jury there if i between sixteen and twenty three people there in this room they on the other uh purse to people in the room or your courts did not her in a prosecutor they only here one five on the here the prosecution side nick cave and there's nobody there to rebuke care or crossexamine witnesses so that's why you have such a high degree of indictment is because you know here one side of the case you're you're going to believe that side had the voters said that the jury could grand jury composition is intended to be anti trump filled with anti trump people so we'll be nice his greg jarrett and i think this is brewing widow of on fox there's only one other a nation in the world other than.
"patsy ramsey" Discussed on SXM11
"About making inspired and is the other because patsy ramsey died is the fatherly that's a good question i don't know i just know that patsy dad okay let's go back to the phones christina in new york a christina hi guys how are you oh good how are you hey good nominated coming back good question that's a good question perhaps and it could be november fifteen thick could be never hustling so i like to what any i have a question okay when something have been and entertainment world who went the first heard can you think of to call and talk about with that i soon it's usually the lies or bruce yeah because it's a one a call i kind of ready and getting have been i want to call you and sure to either airy kind them and and the like twenty two anybody by writing tear that's nice and i love that when you kind of line to eat like.