20 Episode results for "Patriot League"

Local Hour: Magic Castle

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

1:16:43 hr | 1 year ago

Local Hour: Magic Castle

"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by the capital one saver card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment Ju- percent grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases now when you go out you can't Jim what's in your wallet terms of plot so there's another phase of this whole Antonio Brown saga as we learn last night one. That's slightly more difficult to talk about and laugh about yeah. The scales done yeah. The Fun. Yeah is a genus united genius scales done so many people full-text texted me last night. It's over like I. We're not going to be able to make fun of this anymore. Yeah the the fun has officially stopping you know I was able to look past the murder and Josh Gordon Violating League's Substance Abuse Policies but now I'm beginning to think that the Patriots treats own have the special ability to just stop this nonsense altogether. Well this happened before he was a Patriot league. This isn't something happened on. The Patriots washes happened in two thousand seventeen anything anything no. I understand an Aaron Hernandez dirtbag before he got to the Patriots and Josh. Gordon had his mess ups before he got to the Patriots. It's just like we always just assume from that. Everything's GonNa break right and now. I think that there's enough recent history here to say that that's probably an inaccurate cliche. At this point I think though that as it relates the Patriots the only way that it's fair to analyze it is does he control it on the field. Does he control it in the locker room. Does he control it on premises I don't know that you can necessarily know that you are welcoming a murderer in Aaron Hernandez Anandas into your huddle because he was in a lot of huddles before we realize that he was that and so I don't know how fair it is to put that on the Patriots you just know before. He's played a game now. Some of the stuff around him follows him there as well that part. They've got no control in fairness. This also only an accusation and it's a loss like like this is not legally like something. That's confirmed that happened. Now you see the tax and obviously there's past behavior in here and there's details in the laws who but it is just a lawsuit you're right. You're right what about that but the details of that lawsuit whether you believe the crime of it or not those text messages are a smear patriots creates organization and I would ask you this question seriously like is that still welcome and just sells home like when those because I know wouldn't be in mind you're talking about. The reports that Tom Brady says that Antonio Brown can save is House. Yes thank you for the clarification but the text messages that came out yesterday which I don't know whether you found them believable or not but I found those text messages believable and angry as this descends the he said she said and now his attorneys counter-attacked her attack because it's what you must do. Even if you're if you're not guilty or if you're guilty it's what lawyers do well even even the stuff that he's admitted to uh-huh by saying that he's had this consensual sexual relationship while that's someone that's not his wife and the stuff that he admitted to over text which is the self pleasure while the person's in the room unbeknownst to them. I mean that's what got Louis C. K. et well even though they knew that it was going on like even the stuff that's already out. There is crazy. Roese unseemly for the Patriots now have this air and I should clarify I just sort of is just sorta roll my eyes at the whole i Patriot culture and all that Jeff because it. It's really no different there than it is. Any place have no control over any of that. Sodas Bella check though belichick actually answered one time when asked about the Patriots sways like I've never. I don't think I've ever used that expression. I don't know what that is is. What belichick said to it but this stuff. I don't know how you can control this stuff and I'm dead serious about having the conversation. Antonio Brown was staying in. Tom Brady's house. There were pictures on social media that made it feel. You're like a buddy cop movie here. They come perfect season and now these details not. He said she said not civil suit the details on what is being said in those text messages. Do you believe that Yoursel wants that in her house. Do you believe that Antonio Antonio Brown is still going to stay. Tom Brady's out. I mean the fact that it's just I mean we can discuss any wife really no no but there's a reason I'm specifically specifically making it. GENUCEL is because she it's not Tom. Brady you watch the inner workings of Tom. Brady's life what he's willing to show you. there aren't questions about whether sal is in charge. They're not as the breadwinner just Tom. Brady loves her that way and you would understand how a hugely powerful woman but any woman obviously but a hugely powerful woman who has been empowered and doesn't have to deal with this kind of stuff in her life anymore how she'd feel about having in her house even at this wasn't Antonio Brown if this was a personal friend Tom Brady for the past twenty years who is known in college in this happens visit him. Of course they're not gonNA welcome in her house. Absolutely now at anybody react to Oh. You've just met this person and roughly twenty four hours. After there's this story in you have children in your house like and the fact that it's just who is a public figure in a post me to world. The optics of all of this is bad. I don't know how much of that was hyperbole. and how much of it is it. Is He actually saying in this house. I don't know if they were just joking around in the media media but if he is actually saying in the House that's that's quite the dynamic in the conversation that that married couple needs to. I'm sure it's a big house. I'm sure there's a guesthouse. How's that you know. Wes Welker told us about those warm toilets. I'm sure you could probably go months walking around the Brady House one of the Brady houses without ever ever running into Antonio Brown or hearing of him unless it's the echo through the cavernous bowling alley what I what I'm most interested obviously because this happened before the Patriots Watch but now it's their situation right and we saw how they dealt with the Aaron Hernandez thing which was Kinda weird because they just cut it off and they didn't really answer any sort of direct win. That's how they always always handle everything though Mike that's how they handle every single thing just shut up and don't say anything right and they bought so much capital with the media and fans because of their success and we just sort of accepted it which is really bizarre where I think any other team would be held to a higher standard of accountability at least in terms of like talking into a microphone. This is an active player now. There hasn't been any reports that they were interested in porting ways just yet. It'll be curious to see if that's a path that they decide to take now so this is your problem. It's become your problem regardless of whether it happened on your watch or not. How do you respond. You think. There's a possibility that they let him go. I don't I don't I dude dude with this story over the last week. Nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing the twists and turns it would not surprise me if he plays on Sunday and post two hundred yards and three touchdowns and WanNa prize me at all if he's a healthy scratch or if they decide to cut 'em today nothing really this whole dog. I'd be I'd be surprised I'd be surprised because it's a civil suit because it still in accusation form because you don't even know how the NFL can react to it. You don't I know that because of the civil nature of it you don't know the way the NFL will react to it. I would be surprised Mike if they if they let him go without benefit of the doubt allowing to at you know at least help them in their self interest they could use benefit of the doubt as well. We need to get him understood in prior into this very serious allegation. What's your inviting with. Antonio Brown is the circus and we all assumed they can handle the circus. Regardless of the the accusations are not what's already out. There is Circassian what's been admitted to in texts is pretty crazy already that what's what's out. There already needs public addressing. It's it is something if those texts are accurate. Okay what it is. Antonio Brown has showed you you a good deal of his life. If those texts are accurate that is something as a side of him that none of us have seen and it is demeaning saying it is bullying it is you know jealous rage type stuff and if it's true some of it seems to indicate gate illegal like some of it is incriminating if the texts are true yet and it's a things can get lost in translation when you look at print but it does seem like rage judge and I'm sure there's probably already been discussions between the Patriots and the Commissioner's officers very real possibility Antonio Brown might just end up on the Commissioner's exempt list as they all figure this one out because we keep learning with all this the NFL keeps trying case by case set a template of some source the details on every single one of these are different an and this is an mean Antonio Brown finds a way to make things X. Radio Brian Mike. I think I honestly think there is the possibility here that it the NFL simply looked or considers putting him on that list just because of the general behavior that is doing this staining paining of the League. This is in terms of final drops in a bucket. You put this one in there. That's felonious legal that we're talking about. If it's you know if it's a conviction conviction were talking about a crime that's sizable with with a penalty just out of concern for what the Hell is going on in. Antonio Brown's head right now literally in a league that has questions about what's going on in the heads of their players I gotta gotTa think that those conversations might even be being had right now because of the way he's dominating the news stream with stuff. That's not favourable before this always fairly it. It was fairly benign before it is it was the door on the couch off of his balcony in south beach so there was a passage almost striking somebody that was a lawsuit involved there and now you look at that incident when you see the rage filled texts that are now out on social media and things start to correlate a little bit and Tony Brown quite honestly I think is I think his career is on the line because if the Patriots decided to move on from him I I know that there was a slight bidding war and the browns and Seahawks were reported to be interested in them the if the Patriots cut bait less than a week into this experiment. I really don't see who invites this into their locker room considering the week that we've seen all but mike nothing has actually changed in the last week about the person that Antonio Brown is all that the Patriots have endured right now not unlike the raiders is sort of the bad timing of when things happen before games have been played. We're also assuming that they didn't. I didn't know this was going on now. I don't know that you'd sign Antonio Brown without looking into everything that's going on around him so it's very possible that they knew this was a possibility possibility and still it's a good question. I wonder that's a good question. I wonder how thoroughly those things. I know that their security teams for all. NFL teams those guys could the best books in the League all of them because of the things that they have to do in the shadows but given what we've seen of the Patriots in general. I'm not sure how good their background checking is. You consider some of the things that they've invited into the locker room. I would say I'd be very surprised if they knew about it not just knowing that this would be in the news stream relatively soon normally that stuff would leak out if someone were on the open market by one team remember the thirty two the teams that are doing their due diligence and the raiders as it would seem as the documentarian that joined us earlier in the week. The raiders were already worked in the media and putting their own spin on on this. This is something that would drive. Somebody's value down if the Patriots were in on that the story being out there and so interested in bringing them in in might actually be beneficial because it would drive as market value down so. I don't think any team knew about. Let me ask you guys this question. Though is it possible it say because this is one of the reasons is that it's very difficult for the NFL to get involved with this kind of unseemly stuff if the Patriots got a whiff of hey a civil suit might becoming. Can you envision a scenario where they go to him and they're like hey. What is this give us more information about a civil suit also with the knowledge that these guys. NFL players athletes whatever this place they live has a lot of this kind of stuff in it where a woman is saying acts and a man is saying. That's not what what it is and so. Where do you go for your information on that. If the civil suit hasn't actually been filed yet do you do you put it on the Patriots. I guess I'm asking you if this is out there somewhere and the civil suit hasn't been filed. Do you put it on the Patriots. It is their responsibility to find the woman and talk to her if they get had a whiff of this because fifteen years ago that is not something that was the patriots responsibility but since the NFL has taken on itself the the idea of being the morals morals police as well. I don't know whether you put that responsibility on them or not. I could see a situation where they ask about this and they said what's going on here and he says she's is tried to extort me in the past. This is an ongoing thing nothing ever comes of it and then maybe they say okay fine. This is just something that happens and will move on and now of a the civil lawsuit has been filed again. This is all just conjecture but they in a vacuum they might have known a of some civil suit and but the details and the tax ax messages regardless of how good security team is they probably don't know about that and now this is playing out in public. I don't think that the lawyers for her for the alleged victim are going to the Patriots with an information. Why would you you go to the Patriots with that. Information or the raiders are the steelers what ends up happening is you run the risk of those those teams that are using their power against you to never get it in public yet now. What you have is a lot of naysayers saying well. There's the timing and what I would say is while there's a lot of people that are not familiar with this. Imagine fewer victim of something like that. Antonio Brown has absolutely absolutely dominated the news stream their people that they're victims that try to put these things behind them all of a sudden some splattered through the news stream and then your mind just starts arch going back to those those points of the allegations and I think the timing of well a lot of people dismiss it. There's a rational explanation for the lawyers lawyers. I would say that the lawyers are always looking for wherever and whenever they can put on a rape Defense WanNa one and she wants money. She wants attention. She wants fame I don't think there is a path that lawyers are more likely to go to in fact they've already started. They've already we started. This is why so many women don't come forward with this stuff because they've already started the initial statement to say look this woman's a gold digger and there's been a gold digger for a long time that she's they start now smearing her back there smearing somebody's taking up failed businesses all all the stuff you mean to dig up so that you can start the reverse smear campaign. It's it's an ugly ugly business. You're watching it happen now. In pop culture with a book that just came out with the New York Times and the Weinstein's that makes you wince and cringe how powerful organizations can make some of this stuff go away and how they can influence influence and how they can bury women and the the the lawyers and some of the people involved with the defending of Weinstein over the year years ears are having to apologize for their actions like this is the reason women don't come forward because it's not it's now the fame of Antonio Brown the power and the money come to bear as the Patriots also want to protect this investment that they have an it's just this woman going up against the entire machine and if she's his if she's eighty percent right they will find the twenty percents that makes it look like the eighty percent isn't right and if eighty percent accurate on on how it is her depictions of things are man. This stuff is complicated why the NFL should never gotten involved with the trying to police of this stuff because they lose they loot every time the league gets mayor. The players get smeared. It ain't ever anything good for the League and you've got a woman in the shadows that nobody knows coming coming out into the light with something that feels horrific invulnerable to her and now she's got to endure as maybe maybe just one hundred percent of a victim more victim stu gods here after hearing me talk about butcher box for months if you haven't taken advantage of their amazing offers. You need to listen up every month. Put your box delivers you mainly raise one hundred percent grass-fed beef free range organic chicken heritage bread pork and wild caught. 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You Sound surprised by that because it's been hard times daddy it's been hard times but the biggest star in the world is linked to a sporting team down here and there seems to be fired where the smoke is but we'll get to that in a second because we have big breaking news and it's important to the local our one of our favorite callers. Hefei is are sort of Disneyworld correspondent and there was just delivered to me. The News that club cool close billy yeah club cool for those of you who don't know we talked about with half in the past is like the the coke around the world tasting station. Epcot Center and they closed this past weekend. I think I don't even know that. Hefei knows I mean I'm assuming he knows because he's there a lot but this is not why he called Hefei. You're on the air model almost on I look forward to how you start a call every week. Dude actually I think really hard about what Spanish word I'm GonNa say and I'm almost running out of mcabe Larry so you're going to hear some repeat coming up and let's get into it. You want me to talk about club. Coolio may talk about what I came here to talk much about club call to be honest with you knew so much about club cool just a couple of weeks ago. Did you know that it was closing yeah. I knew only because when you guys brought brought it up I checked the wikipedia page and it said it was closing on September fifth or September ninth or something like that so i. I knew that there was only like a couple more chances to check it out. I swung by last week when I was at Epcot and you know it was. It was pretty cool. Check it out but yeah unfortunately it's closing. I think they're moving the coke products elsewhere throughout the parks but I'm not exactly sure where they're putting them but yeah. I think it's a sad day but it's you know it's opening up new Horizon Clark all right. Let's talk about what you wanted to talk about. Hefei six so I got two things as usual. I got a take about when someone is opening the door for you and then I got a question about saying hi to people. What do you guys want to start with. Open the door okay so let's say you're walking into a building it could be your office could be a starbucks and your outlay. Whatever and you're behind a person who's walking in front of you. They think they're going to be polite right. They go to hold the door open but if I'm more than seven steps away. I don't want you hold the door for me because then I got to do that thing where I do that awkward kind of jog talking about that little jog moves. We've all been there yeah. It sucks honestly like opening a door. Isn't that hard so if you just close the door. I'm not gonNA think you're rude. You're actually doing the savior because you're saving me a little bit of like breath because I don't have to run and all open the door myself so conversely that also goes for when I'm opening the door for someone if they're more than seven steps away from me. I'm just going to spare for them. The the hassle and I'm GONNA keep walking. Go about my day and you know nothing's GonNa Change so happy. Seven step rule is something. I think everyone should live by but if you're doing. There's a restaurant. That's means that the person's going in is going to get to the line before the person holding the door so you get the line faster good point. I point point good point so you're yeah. I think that also the little shuffle that you do is awkward but it also causes you to sing. Thank you because you have such a long distance to say. Thank thank you for holding a door. It's like Oh thank you can get to extend it because there's like awkward time. How are you arriving at seven steps as opposed to six eight ten. Like where are you. Did it in the studio. Seven is a bit short. I think ten is closer. I mean also I have longer steps than other people so I guess it depends right. It's different if you saying bolt also is waiting for a door strides absolutely matter. I think seven is is my rule for when I'm walking like if I'm seven steps away from the door just GonNa give you that little wave and be like go ahead no worries. Maybe I'll pretend I'm on my phone so I don't have to run but you know I. I guess you guys could be right when you're the the one holding the door. Maybe you give them that. Ten step grace period and then they can decide if they WANNA wave you offer not but I feel like more people need to realize that opening a door. Isn't that hard like you just frigging open it. You know what I mean. It's not like ten thousand pound door. You just open it. You Walk and you go about Your Day to Roy's point though if you're at a restaurant or somewhere where art I want to hold this door for you but I wanna be here before you. You do the thing where you walk in and you're fully in and you hold the door so it's like look come and grab this door so I can continue attend you moving but you still have to grab the door whereas if you're not in a hurry you do the thing where you pull the door and you- you're behind the door and you allow them in. I write whenever there's a queue you establish your place in line while holding the door open for the other person but it's a nonverbal thing. They understand that your first in line. You guys had this thing at restaurants. Were you arrive at the same time as someone and you want to be very subtle about how you're trying to walk faster than them to get ahead of them in to the hostess stand so it's like you can't be obvious about it. You can't start shuffling but you have to just look act like you're talking to your wife but start walking really fast. It's like the NFL. It's all about angles that you take you have to be efficient with Eh. I love the idea of talking to your wife. Creswell sprinting next to both of you sprinting next to each other thinking you're subtle. What's the second question heavy so my second question is when you're talking to your buddy or whatever and they say yo. Tell Dan I say higher. Tell whoever I say hi. How often are you. You actually going to deliver that message. And how often are you not going to deliver that message. Never I've got a better person. I've got one for you though I've got one for you. Do you know that the single thing that I hear the most is tell poppy said hi just random person like driving past asked me and I'd be like Okay Guy Redcar. I'll tell him in to your credit you do every time every time they highly questionable symbol you go through a list of at least seventeen people and there was this dude at Publix that was at the checkout and he told me to tell you hi. There was a guy in the red car that told me to tell you say by the guy at the brothel guy. There was the guy at the crack. Dan owned dealer and says your light this week. how how do you handle it so my take is if I'm personally with the person and someone's like Oh you're with Justin Justin. I say hi I'll be like Joe. Justin was Asia's high right but if I'm not with that person and it's something that after a member there's absolutely no way that that message is getting to you and I'll crawley. I won't be honest about it. I'll be like yeah sure deliver the message but you know that that's that's staying with me. I'm not I'm not passing that message along unless that person's name comes up in conversation I'll be like Oh dude. I was talking to Jose the other day. He's home to tell you he said I just realized that I did this over the weekend without like so it was Dan's dad's birthday parties birthday this weekend and his mom had texts me a couple days before because ever since I said the thing about all trees look alike. I'll share this with you know the audience. Dan's mom every every two or three days. We'll send me a picture of different looking tree to prove to me that all trees that look alike so I'm constantly getting pictures of trees sent to me by Dan's mom so I responded to her. As Oh tell poppy that I say happy birthday because it was his birthday and now I realized that I put her in a spot where like if he wasn't around does she wait eight and then say oh billy said happy birthday and then if that's the case like what did she say okay. Tell Them I say thank you so. I didn't realize this but I'm not going to text directly because I you know I don't want to bother him. You should sean someone's birthday. You should attack. I think this is a millennial thing like I think Dan's mom hundred percent actually that message for sure whereas us today. We're just like yeah but now I realize that I may have put her in an uncomfortable spot now obviously delivering happy birthday messages. Someone should never be uncomfortable but you know like what if you know bobby did something and he was was angry and then she's like well. You know we're fighting right now but at least said happy birthday so I'm going to have to do it. I think happy birthday is different than high though that's like like something that I think you should probably pass along because that's that's important highs. Whatever all right as always it's been a pleasure dude appreciate it by the way tell poppy essay excited about today's local hours still got a lot of really good calls on the board from the topic bar that I see we. We have the sports story that I'll I'll just sort of get into right now. I don't know if you guys have seen. The reports got injured out for the season. I wanted to talk to you about that too. That was a real bummer and you know what it's cool. The Z. Marlins twitter local sports fans down here be really sad about that Christian Yelich no one's rooting against them everyone had liked the dude from his time here in south Florida and even though he tried to force his way out of the Miami marlins organization none of that really stuck to him and he's still sort of beloved yeah he's. He's a likable guy. He's someone that down here we watched grow up unfortunately we didn't see him become the MVP that he became in Milwaukee but it's not fun to see someone get injured and missed the remainder of the season especially when he's in the middle of what could could be a second. MVP sees and now this is interesting about the interesting thing we should say fractured his kneecap found the ball off of his his own cabinet fractured and he's out for the rest is the season here's the interesting thing about the MVP race so there's three weeks left in the season. Give or take right so it's it's strange because you're kind of wondering alright well. There's three weeks left in the season his numbers now wa- not get any better. He's done for the year so this should hinder his. MVP campaign pain right but if his team falls off completely without him does that make his case stronger. I mean it's all up to the voters. I would think if I was a voter. I'd go with the person that has the better numbers to get their team into the postseason but if his team completely falls off you could see how valuable he actually is to the team so I would think that may get him some more votes but I don't think it's going to be enough to get probably gets now right yeah yeah I would say the dodgers are ridiculous running away with it though so I don't know the brewers right now our game out of the second wildcard spot just so they're in contention for the play offs now again if they completely fall out of it like within a week or two is that something that will hinder or help his case for MVP. I know you mentioned. It was a fractured kneecap. Yeah what a fluke injury obviously obviously guys often wear stuff on their shins and their feet because that's common this was. I mean it was a sick pitch by the Hernandez guy the slider I mean I think that had to do with the angle of the pitch it happening down here. It happened against the Miami Marlins his former team mate head it just it wasn't like it was like oh directly off his persona so painful. I know what I mean. It's so rare you see a lot of foul balls off the body but it never is the angle for its directly onto the KNEECAP. I I don't know if I've ever heard a fractured kneecap he can. I've seen people who have the takeaway well. He's a bony slender kid. I'm like no one has muscle on their kneecap dog like that that hurts. Have you guys seen the reports sports. Oh sorry fix it a fractured kneecap like what is again 'cause you don't play Canary. I don't think that you put a cast over your kneecap you do so your leg doesn't move how down has a fractured elbows people like they have it stationary for awhile you need the bones actually they come back together and then slowly but surely rebuild with very slight mobility. Have you guys ever worried about hurting your kneecap. Oh shouldn't surprise you. I've I've been afraid that I broke my kneecap interesting adding having a two year old obviously doesn't crawl anymore because she's up and running she they can crawl like crazy and as a pair you. WanNa get down on your knees. She's almost do but when do you start walking. Should she. Walking shoes walk. That's why so nice. She runs. That's my point. Is that like you know. She's still every once in a while. We'll crawl around but like months back when she was only Crawley Raleigh. I like you know as a parent you. WanNa get on your knees and crawl with her. Do these kids have some. They don't have like the feeling in their knees. Adults you right now if you got on all fours and tried to crawl around the hurts. It's painful thing for your knees yeah. I'm telling you raise. Its don't have the feeling that they can like sprint. Crawl bones are also soft yeah but it has I'm jealous. I see her crawling and she can do without pain and I try to do it because it looks fun. It's very painful. It has to be horrifying at least at the beginning. I mean I'm sure now you guys. Don't think it's a big deal at all when your baby cries but like baby can't speak like I see sometimes babies like infants with glasses like how do you know that baby can't see like how is that communicated like if a baby gets hurt and they break their knee or something. How do you know that that's what's going on and notches the baby poop themselves a constant airing. I think I think and as as you get to know the baby there's different cries so there's no the I broke my eyes cries when they want something and then there's cries when it looks like they're in pain like you could just tell by the cry explained that I have no idea what you're talking about. You could tell it your baby is thing by the way your baby is crying example of an hundred crimes. I'm just saying there's a different just cried like I. I didn't know what it meant. They will just crying. Maybe I'm using the context clues of every situation but there are times where she's just sitting in her high chair and she wants the milk. It's not time for milk yet and she's blabbering and there's times where she falls down and she gets hundred holding her hand crying and it's just a different crowd. I don't know maybe I don't know I don't I know because I had knee surgery when I was in seventh grade right and the reason I had knee surgeries because I had an extra bone chip like on my knee. It almost looks like a hook right and the doctor doctor that I went to see that discovered it through an X-ray because I had an extra bump on my Nia was like it was weird looking and they said what probably happened. was you broke your knee when you were younger and it just healed itself so now. I'm wondering was I crying as a baby and parents didn't know and they're like he's just hungry. You're hungry. That's what I'm saying. So what are the different Christ sound like like. Give me an example of what your baby sounds like. She's hungry because I'm not certain. The crowds are different. I just think situations are different. Feel like the Christ. You're just assuming you're babies. Baby baby pooped itself because that's what babies back me up on. This price sound like I want to hear a beep no no. I'm not saying that you'll be backing me up on. I'm not saying that you're wrong but when you're hot texts clues right when the baby sitting the High Chair and she's crying or he's crying it's probably because he or she is hungry so you know that because we're sitting in the high chair where she holds her hand up ads and is crying. You would assume that her hands hurt their time. Cry just different motions. That's Tom. There's times when you can tell the kids I mean I guess you're right because obviously she didn't just fall so I know that she's just turning on this guy. There's Times where they can turn it on man these kids right but you want examples of the cries bill yeah. I'd like to hear what the different cries sound like if possible. Roy Guests is gonNA give us now a demonstration of crying. I'm not giving you free attention. Christ food cries for pain you know the difference is obviously a difference but I know about that. The ultra grapevine baby cries. You know your kid but if your baby crawls into something it starts. It's crying right. Just it's the same cry. You just know why they're crying yeah. What if you're turned around when your baby fell and turn back around like Oh that's the that's the hungry cry right right now and it's like no the baby fell and you just missed it well. It's a hold on give us those three cries again for attention. Let's Chris you sound like what does that sound like. I am not playing mimic. Decide you see the cry and you can tell now there are times when she's crying. Let her go because she's just crying because she wants. You know a you. You know something that I don't want to give her. I don't know what this is like without the exam. That's what I'm saying. It's paw like it's very easy to say. I know the difference between the three cries and I'm going to come out and say say I don't know the difference. I'm not experienced. I don't know what they sound like. So if I'm going to have a drought in the future I'd like to know what the cries sound like so I think demonstration from two experts here might help with that. What a cry for pain free easy thing the one initial cry. What does that sound like. We need to hear the crime. There's an initial burst. This is not a real conversation anymore. Yeah just want us to make crying knowing your game. If you are serious what the hungry cried sounds like here's what the woman they hurt their toe guys happy dinosaur noise babies. Christ right. I don't believe it the cry for pain the initial one cry long get inhale. Okay Min- the pain that kick in but then you need the big inhale. You're out here. Asking for example is so how does that differ from the other cries is what I'm asking a cry cry for attention more like a whimper and yeah and the cry but here's the thing and been those are. Those are only three situations that you're familiar with. What's the broken knee. Christ sound like that can't be the I am hungry Chri CA. We don't really know when someone's hurting I think you know I think you know the sound. messy is coming in Miami. Oh God that's the story so this comes from reports from Barcelona and this is irrefutable. SC has a provision in his contract that in the summer of twenty twenty one he could leave leave on a free transfer anywhere anywhere now. He's thirty two years old right now. Still playing at a high level. Barcelona's Dr Sologne is offered him a lifetime contract. He has said in the media several times that he doesn't WanNa play for any other teams in Europe. Although many players have said that and ended up playing for other teams in Europe there have been reports that David Beckham has been in contact with messy throwing out crazy money offers and that in Miami is obviously obviously interested in messy now. I have done some talking around town. Oh Wow before. This report even came out. I'm talking months ago. There is the thought around owned that club that they have a very real shot at messy a couple seasons into this project now everyone's looking at the summer of twenty twenty one because he can leave on a free transfer because obviously if messy hits an open market inter. Miami is not going to be able to compete with the likes of Hell. Even China like Chinese clubs that have visa astonishing transfer budgets. He's going to the only way messy comes. Here is obviously for bigger money. MLS has ever seen for a player goes it goes without saying and the fact that he wants to be in America which we've seen in the past are reports that he wants to be down here and also Emma's has this bizarre sponsorship partnership ship with Adidas Who Messy is the biggest athlete that has ever been sponsored by Dita's so they can make up some of the money there too so this would be a business opportunity for messy. All tell you is the facts of the story he can leave on a free transfer which is optimal for team like Inter Miami. Beckham has been in constant contact with them. Messy was part of that premier video that into Miami put out when they announced their brand and and there is some sort of mutual interest already comic hold on a second years from now is he gonNA WANNA leave. You've playing wherever he's playing celona Barcelona to play in the Minor League stadium in Fort Lauderdale well. There's not going to be a stadium. Fort Lauderdale Fort Lauderdale's tails obviously a big part of this equation. I can't possibly answer that question. I do know that that the only team that's ever really been linked with messy in sort of. MLS OX has been this Miami Project but Yeah Fort Lauderdale when you put it that way leaving Barcelona in the Camp Nou for Lockhart Stadium seems a bit odd but at that age this is something different with his career possibly does he have this every year or just just in two thousand twenty one but two thousand twenty one is the only year in his contract and I don't know how much longer is left on that contract. It's not a lifetime deal but he has a provision in his is contract would look it up twenty twenty one he can leave on a free transfer okay but if the stadiums not building twenty twenty one and it's going to be ready in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three does. Hispanic dispel doubt then the well. That's the only opportunities thirty three thirty four years old at that point yeah but you're GONNA get him at thirty three thirty four thirty eighty five. You're not going to get them now. When you say free transfer does that mean he gets to choose where he goes yeah like houses. It's agent yeah so usually a team seemed like a team that bids the most the team gets so if he can leave on a free transfer normally if they don't have a free transfer. The club and the player have to agree to terms. If it's a free transfer the club have have no say in where he can go so it's really the player that's coming just two financial terms how much money the team gets for him. No no it's a free transfer. The club hasn't got any money yeah. Why would they ever agree to that just to get him to sign more like because he had to leverage average when he hit an open market or his contract was expiring. You very rarely see a player just hit an open market and become a free agent unless they're much older in their career. Event is actually does a really good job of with their business. Getting players on free transfers and expiring appeals their their Club knows how to leverage certain agents say hey never renegotiate but you rarely ever see a player reach an expiring deal just because a club likes recoup some of the money on some of these things even if they're excited yeah. It's cool buzz does that mean soccer is alive. If messy comes to somewhere close to your house eh soccer's Ed. We're getting them at the age of thirty four. I mean yes this. Brad car right at ours locker from my house. I mean a lot closer. No Sir Than Freedom Park would be. I guess that wasn't going to be called. I think so yeah to put this in perspective. Say Messy ever won anything yes plenty what name it Champions League World Cup no. He hasn't won the super. Both you're being. I just want to know what we could have said about this. Inter Miami the team that would have had you guys like billions guys say this. I can't do better than messy at thirty four by the way he's locked on is dominating. MLS MLS and he's thirty seven years saying Michael Jordan wants to come here years but it's also saying like Michael. Jordan wants to come to the heat today like well. Why would he come to the heat today. The same thing brought up on saying Lebron. James wants to come to the today in Lebron James. I believe is approaching thirty four so discounting the fact that there's no Oh stadium and there's no incentive for him to play in Fort Lauderdale like what's going on with the soil. When is this going to be done like these. Are reasonable questions assume oh no. Hey maybe maybe the best player in soccer might think this isn't optimal for me to come to the MLS when they can't figure out there's too messy agreed to come here that Lockhart would be so many people would be willing to travel to fill it up. Hold on hold on. It's not gonNA fill up anyway just because soccer's that they've done really well in terms terms of season ticket sales without any sort of infrastructure just yet. Here's what I will say. I understand where billy is coming from being dismissive missive Lockhart Stadium and why would he come to be in Fort Lauderdale. We don't know Jack. Shit about what that experience is going to be. It's not even built yet. We don't know what I understand understand that and you can have conversations and I'm sure if they're talking about any sort of future. They're giving him bloop a blueprint and and more details and we even even have outside of a three d graphic and probably freedom park as a part of that. It's probably more of a business play than anything else. I don't really think the stadium really matters as long as it's branded Inter Miami and he gets do business things here stateside through Adidas and getting to pick his club of choice down here in MLS. I think that's that's what's most important. It's really theater of the mind I mean. I just wonder if he's the best in the world why he'd come to an LS now when the stadium situation isn't done when he can do it later on like MLS will always be an option twenty-one not to it's twenty twenty one twenty twenty one. There's obviously going to be more details we would hope on Freedom Park and by then naturally. There's going to be an existing stadium in Fort Lauderdale. Even though it's I think I wonder how much of the stadium is being built off-site actually because if you're looking at yeah yeah but saying like we're four months away from twenty twenty stadiums don't take a year to build and they haven't even broken ground. Actually that's not true. MLS There's examples in Vancouver where stadiums were built offsite and imported in there were turned around within nine months. You'd think the stadium next to the airport will be built in nine. I'm not talking ever goes. I'm sorry I'm talking. Strictly Lock Arts they all but I'm saying if the plan the big the future is mls in Miami and the stadium. They haven't been broken ground yet right. That's so four months away. There's there's a soil xactly yeah. You're wondering why messy would WANNA come to. I'm wondering wondering why he'd want to come here with that. Being a situation that's debut. Here's about the market and you're acting like if they're playing in Fort. Lauderdale still not Miami like macy's not making money in Miami Massey's an international star. You don't think that he's making money in the US right now what matters I really think were you in particular is over blowing the idea of like freedom park being this massive draw compared to Fort Lauderdale. He's going to live wherever I know but why would you WanNa play in Fort Lauderdale in a smaller stadium as opposed to Barcelona with a big team in a bigger brand yeah but that's GonNa be that he's GonNa. He's GonNa have that drop off regardless where wherever he goes in MLS. It's like you say why would he want to do that. I don't know I don't know is saying this is the biggest drop off in terms of you're going from Barcelona to a stadium. That's really not your stadium but if you look look at all bunch of players like Beckham did it and now he can do this when it's set up is what I'm saying he doesn't need to do it. At thirty. Three Freedom Freedom even park isn't going to be this hundred thousand seat stadium. It's not even going to be comparable. The camp no like an inner. Miami yeah if he wants anything comparable honestly he should go to Atlanta united which plays the Falcons play and they get like sixty thousand people a game and it's on across the world in terms of club attendance. Atlan united is top ten across the world if people four and like the actual state of the art facility matter to him. I'd say go there. Why come to Fort Lauderdale playing Fort Lauderdale because it's branded in Miami now South American superstar. Why do it now now when he can do it when it's already set up and he doesn't have to go through all this stuff you guys. WanNa still be decent. Doesn't WANNA forty but wait a minute. He's GonNa WanNa get if you wanted to do this for money and business go to China because they'll throw all kinds of money at him with not China which is a lot different than south Florida okay but I'm saying MLS Miami. We'll always be option for messy will and not always okay even when he's like forty five so why would he do it at thirty three versus when he could do it at thirty seven when everything's already set out everything right because it's a great point. Barcelona is a bigger brand worldwide inner. Miami will be yes or no yes messy. Messy himself is a bigger brand than MLS. So why would he do it. At thirty wants to create his own lane in the belly saying there might be a few more stops before he exotic on down here look obviously obviously if he comes here. I'll get a few more intriguing stops along the way it's great it is great for Miami is great for MLS. It would be incredible. I'm just saying logically. Why would he do it with somebody. The mayor no the money that's being offered to him. It's reportedly big money. Money might be a draw marketing opportunities the fact that he actually just wants to be in south. Florida relationship with Beckham Plan right relationship with Beckham whose Adidas second-biggest athlete behind him and he's realizing I'm messy. I can create my own lane and you know how every guy comes over now wants to play in the galaxy because that's what Beckham did. He's starting then he's like. I want to go to a new team and start my own path and go to and build this team from the ground up and now hopefully he's thinking once. I go to Miami now. Maybe other people. I don't know why he wants to do it. In the summer of two thousand twenty one caney negotiate other free transfers and his contract because he has leverage bridge absolutely I can't speak to the motivation would billie is saying is the rational play. Wait till I can actually play in Miami and I'm still playing at a high level in which I'm considered a top five player in the world why not I can't speak to what is being put in front of him and what his motivations are but these are the reports coming out of reputable places in Barcelona that they're at least in conversations uh-huh and he's not really linked to any other clubs. Is that the norm though in soccer's lots on plane that well the age of thirty seven is that norm. There's nothing normal about slot on at at all in terms of blame welcome. MLS is not as good Lord tell you you will find this good if he played in the premier league whereas it's the same with messy like if messy comes here with dominant yeah zooming he dominated mls when he's thirty six years old yeah messy so dominating. Lita at his age right now so people people are aging we see in tennis all the time the elite soccer players are aging much better than they used to and MLS has a lot of Roddy Keane scored at a very a high level for La Galaxy well into his mid to late thirties so I I think Messi being the best talent single talent ever come into that league at the height Lonzo very nice player and that is absolute best. He was considered. Maybe top five in the world. There's a gulf between one and between the top two as we know and everybody else I think Messi would be spectacular ornelas obviously and you could probably be spectacular into his forties which actually to Billy's point is why not do it then to which I can't answer sir or maybe he will. That's exciting for Miami the fact that he might come here sooner. It's exciting for Miami. You're in these conversations but I I we're getting to the point where are a lot of people might take the stand said I think billy's just sort of there's a lot of talk and bluster. They don't have a stadium. There's poisonous soil at their at their stadium site there. They don't actually have a stadium. It might be prefab construction. Who knows the playing in Fort Lauderdale. There have been a lot of very public losses and just a lot of this BS. Es which is Louis Warez is interested ooh mess. He's interested. Who are they going to get Cavani or not and that's really all you have you have to put your faith and Beckham has a brand the relationships with Adidas and the fact that you live in one of the more beautiful places in the world. It's a messy aw I know we. WanNa get some callers here but I just want to get this report by Armando Saga about the dolphins when they drafted Minka last year you know I I don. I forget who was like nine. Eleven in that range reportedly Stephen Ross wanted to trade back and potentially get Lamar Jackson and Chris Greer said at the time he told Ross he was Chris Geer said I'm picking Fitzpatrick and if the owner wanted to fire him then he can fire him he told Ross I'm taking fitzpatrick and you can fire me. If you want to fire me really saying they could've traded up to get him also like their second round. Pick didn't eagle thirtieth or something I think like the last so the very end of the first strategy could've traded and got and both of them if they wanted to pick Minka then traded back and then gotten him at the end of the first round. Can you just turn around and like on a delay say okay. I'll fire are you now struggled to get onto the field of what Lamar Jackson Wakes up at number eleven that dre yeah. I just found it interesting because now the reports from this year's draft that greer was kind of giving way to floor is and kind of like you know being a team player saying you know more of a group conversation as as opposed to making it himself but then last year it just found it interesting that greer. It's like totally one eighty. Turn from all you can fire me. I'm taking me to anyone you want Florida's before we get get into college. I'm curious what you think what you guys think of what's happening with Minkah Fitzpatrick. He thought he played pretty well. Last year. He was a sure tackler was proved himself to be versatile and you saw that this this guy had potential and something happened camp with the new regime in which they realize or at least the thought is they realized this guy's not really good at anything. Yeah I mean I mean like last year. It was a strength that he could play anywhere on defense and now the reports are essence. He he plays everywhere okay. He's not really great anywhere and who knows man. It's early in this season. He looked bad on that one deep ball but he was going into one of the fastest dudes. They all look bad man yeah but that Brown dude is one of the fastest dudes in the league so it's like I mean who knows I guess. We'll figure it out with him. Did anyone overreacting and take them in fantasy because I put him on watchlist who how Hollywood Brown well. I think I have is available. It was the guy that people would nuts. We've got thirty side that Guy John Ross right John Ross. I saw up there. Eh I saw in a couple of my leaves bottom bill fast guys number two running back behind Gurley was available on a couple of leagues. I picked the wrong one on the rams rookie draft taking the carries them touchdowns last week. Brown right Yeah Yeah Malcolm Brown. Yes I've picked up REX burkhead. He's available at that's another one but way too much money on them but he's buying the dolphins this wing figure in two touchdowns at the very lazy to last week. Patriots Defense Pence also available a couple of weeks. I got the niners today that I absolutely on that sustainable do you now. I want to try. It's called show and tell if you guys would I would like to participate show and tell all right guys. I just gotTa my bag an advertisement that I got in the mail. It's for North America's number one selling failing walk in Tub and they have a celebrity pitchman. Who Do you think the celebrity pitchman is for first off North America's number one selling walk into so. Is this a shower. The walk is North America's number one selling walk into with an athlete endorser okay so I'm GonNa say this is probably geared towards older people people I'm going to say Joe Name Tommy Tub reveal who a good one. It's terrible. It's a perfect Tapie Smith. Oh Wow toby's miss I have until the end the second bit idiot perfect orser. It's the perfect person to endorse this and it also got me thinking who would be today's endorser in the future like what athlete today would be the one that forty years years from now would be pitching the North America's number one top selling walk in Tub. Do you guys want to just know who I guess no okay it is Surrey's on Brad Terry Bradshaw Ferguson for North America's number one selling walk into which I'm assuming is very expensive because there's no price on here which is usually a sign that something is very expensive. Isn't this just a shower. No it's not look at you know it's basically it's a shower but it has like waist-high describing because nobody can see this because we're doing this not on TV. It has waist high a wall and a door that opens up up and then you sit down in the portion and then that fills up with water. I don't know how they figure this out but that fills up with water and you can also get showered so it's for. I guess older people that can't stand standup Yup in the shower. WanNa sit but they can't go all the way down and there's a handle on it right. I mean the doors you don't you don't hop it. No no no it's. It's the little baby step that you get in. It's basically like you know I was so close in age in quarterback benching quarterback. I want one of those right. I feel like it's going to be like twenty thousand dollars. It looks like the water can go up to your shoulder yeah. That's that's the thing it's basically a tub. Now your water bills probably super high when you get one of these things right because it's basically twice the height of would a normal tub would be. I don't mean to sound like Silky at any point here but water bills. How can it be like. I've had like an expensive month and it goes up to drive you crazy but it sort of stays consistent ten years saying you know what you're a much better bigger house. I guess my my water bill like if it fluctuates fluctuates like two bucks tonight that fifty dollar range every three months fifty bucks which by the way becoming an adult and realizing that you don't pay water bill monthly. I was like Whoa Whoa they Denver told me this my alone in that or do your water bills fluctuate obviously obviously so does mine stays pool. I do have a couple of dollars to all right so if you have a pool you can anticipate it being a lot. I feel like we shouldn't be paying for water order. Be Honest with you. Okay water. I mean you'll like it should be for free but how much how much does your water bill because your pool it just the thousand dollars it's not. It's a lot of money. It's too much money. I'll tell you fifty bucks. I love my fluctuates a lot man. It really does like like a couple of hundred dollars lers like I'll let me give him up. It does because sometimes we'll just turn the pool off for the month right like the kids are away a little just turn it off so this is me not having a pool and being naive about at this. I didn't know that a pool means that much your water. I'm wondering why doesn't the pool just kind of rotate the same water over and over again yeah but we don't but if you turn it off it's not using it's not using as much water pumps into the pool so we're not using water is it. I think it's Bob new water. You need to turn water in their interesting. Trust me your body will thank you. That's Terry Bradshaw House quote on the the walk in so who is the Modern Day Guy Athlete that will be endorsing that you know thirty thirty years from now Dwight Howard. That's a pretty good drew brees. Maybe I feel like I don't know why in terms of body type and Rothlisberger has type but he's not someone that I see along along someone that you like not that he's unlikable but I don't see him being like the sweetheart down the road but look George Foreman wasn't loved at his time right now he started selling Jon congruent could be or was it law until the grill. That's what I'm saying so wow. That's another question who someone that's dislike now that it's going to take a turn at like old age and you're like. I love that we've already seen it to kneel. Medvedev Birdie turn you think money mayweather will have a turn off off and considering the news I think Antonio Brown might have been in the conversation but we can write that one off to is Teo having a turn right now he he is. I think a lot of people although I thought Odell Beckham was going to make this turn by simply not being in Tonio Brown and realizing the things that we got mad at him are ridiculous and now that he's on my team. I just realized we just do this without l. Beckham Duquesne wear a watch without being like a huge negative story. Don't really understand that I mean I love how he's making. People are coming after I I know wearing a two hundred thousand dollar. Watch people like like you catch be swinging stuff around like sick. It's not plastic that watches I know. He said that's plastic. There's no way if you're paying looks plan one hundred thousand dollars for watch me to plastic urine idiot de want something expensive inside a two hundred thousand dollar watch. I want the finest witnessed of metal. It is if you look inside. It looks very complex and expensive. I imagine it's like Rolex which it doesn't need a battery. I don't know about this particular. Taylor brand. I'm learning about it speaks his ability to be swiped. Friends does not need batteries because they charge up emotion really yeah now. How's he put it down for like if you put it down for like seventy two hours you're going to need a pump it to make sure or you can get a hold or if you're if you're big watch collector and you have a wad in your collection? Can you can buy these these cases that will actually rotate the watch occasionally my Lord to charge it back up again. That's part of why rolexes are so expensive. What does that mean. They don't on a bit no like it'll be the case. Oh pump it. Yeah like you have a like you. pull the pin out and you can pump it like a basketball sort. I like that yeah where you just like charged up a reserve so you priming your watch. Why do you know so much about watch. Watch say this job of a Rolex Rolex. Now okay okay. I say this half jokingly but what if Odell Beckham Junior was going for a stiff arm and he like Mrs on the I would always be checking the state of of my watch. I don't care how much money I have made. How much money making if I have a two hundred thousand Dollar Watch on Chris. I think this is where you were headed. I would catch a ball and be like Whoa is the watch scratched. If AH THOUSAND DOLLAR WATCH HAVE IT in a safety deposit box also like the reports were that it was like two hundred thousand dollars and two hundred and fifty I saw and I think the most this recent thing because the company came on spoke on it. It's a hundred and thirty nine thousand. That's it the tall distraction but but he but the thing is like we're making this big deal about Beckham realize how small time he comes off like compared to the dolls who who's out there with an eight hundred thousand dollar watch same brand by the way different model Auteuil obviously but Nidal's out here like big time in all of you and no one talks but it has to do with like it's a it's a safety. It's ridiculous Gladys Edis. NFL's now like that's only two hundred thousand dollars. You can't wear that fifty hazard. It's a plastic watch due to have training dolls on the side of a court by himself. He's swinging swing a racket. He can't hurt anyone with the why you're playing in small spaces trying to tackle me and I have a watch on. I try to stiff army. Would if I miss your shoulder and I scrape you along the neck with right to happen. It could right and you. Gav Your wrist broken tax and then I dropped the ball because I'm more concerned about the watch ran the football and if the book was pops the ball concerned about fumble the interesting thing is everyone just assumed this was an endorsement thing. Odell Beckham said I'm just a customer. Watch yeah by the week which we do you guys think start getting tired of a backup junior and I just love Ha- L. Dell's man the league will leave me alone. It's like dude. You're wearing a half a million dollar. Watching what are you talking about. You're saying look at me. Yeah what's happening though wearing something for ten minutes saying. Why is everyone paying attention. He wants the League to bother him. I'm totally with Chris US asking for this trip like no mass wears a watch wall playing football one person Reggie Roby Uber Expensive Watch while playing Reggie Robie people notice and then he's talking about this. I wonder WHO's a cool little poor Jay cool ooh it looks cool but when the League says hey we can't do that like that's what it makes sense. Do you say that and say you know what what doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me is like like in the NBA did this with the the Ninja band which Pablo correctly took exception to that because that's not an interest style right I they. They say it's a safety issue. I'LL CBS safety issue. They're wearing helmets. The pads are harder than what's on. This wash like this is a dangerous. The sport is frigging dangerous. How is that more ordained what he's wearing on his wrist. How's that more dangerous than what someone's wearing on their head. Every day. What Ahead Bank and get loosen covey is well? Now you blind that was way. NBA Ninja band or like it's too loose and it could someone can slip on it and tear their ACM like what what the people that wear this lousy waren it because he's a taste pacemaker. He's an influence. It's the same reason why he wears different cleats in pre-game. He's like look good play good. I gotTA drip. Why but you have to wear cleats the play football. You don't need to wear a watch yeah. I think it's cool. I feel like you can't be a taker and influence or if you're wearing things that nobody can buy like if he's going out there. The watch the city bought at Walmart. That's readily available to the masses and it's like wow look o b j bought this watch and I WANNA wear it. I can do that now. Oh people just getting people can buy that. I guarantee you look doc. Thousand Dollar Watches doll alone. I mean the only one we know goodbye. That is Dan. I saw lake on. I watch is our incredible investments because you got the right watch not only retain. It's value. They often appreciate in their value so it's like the next time you want to get a watch. You just sort of take off. Your watch handed over to them. End Switch watches especially if you have the right watch and you invested properly so it's actually actually a pretty smart investment. I don't think that watch companies are taking watches. It Odell Beckham scratch playing football. Oh back can make a million dollars on that. Watch a game used used. Jamie is what I watch. I will say that nothing bigger has ever happened to this company than Odell Beckham doing it and they have arguably the greatest men's tennis player as an endorser endorser and you had no idea no idea. When did you become a watch expert. When I bought my watch and I've noticed notice that people only ask you about they they only compliment you on your watch to get a compliment in return very like It's like a secret society eighty because from the outside like nobody really knows about risk where I couldn't tell you what an expensive watch or it's a cheap watch outside of just a certain brand name but it's got its own little hive. Glad I'm not a part of it. Let's go out to calls. Wait hold on your time by the Magic Castle on line. Six has magic castle information which is like another secret society in woke him aboard. Hey guys what's going on. How you doing good morning good morning guys so yeah. I was GonNa tell Mike about the magic agit. Catholics like a serious thing. It really is because at a buddy who lives in. La is like a musician but he knows so inside. I had the magic castle. There's this room was like a magic piano and you tip and then it will play like any song you want so you. You know obviously if the guy sitting up there and my buddy knows that guy but like he wouldn't tell us this name or anything like that. He can't tell people he works there and stuff but he's the one who puts you to put us on the list and you have to like show up and like you get patted down and all this stuff. You have to suit up kind kind of thing. All of your names have to be on the list or they turn you away so I had to put together a suit last minute and apparently my Khakis or whatever I had going on 'cause. I'm not much of a guy had like a metal piece on there and he's like Oh man. I don't know about those pants and I said what and he's like. They've got a rivet on them or something and I said okay he's like. I don't think we can let you in you might have to change your Japan and so like he got on his walkie talkie and all this stuff and so he came back and he said well. It's GonNa work but you can't have your your hands in your pockets like at all. He's like we're going to be. We've got you kind of flagged and we're GONNA. Watch those he ever have your hands inside your pocket. Okay let me stop copy real quick obviously this this place is even more legit than I even suggested last week. It sounds like the most what are you talking about. This is the secret society the people who are influencers and trendsetters they go to the Magic Castle in Hollywood. That's just the truth. You can't be an influencer and it's a secret society. You can't share the secrets go there influencing people because anything that's going to so many backroom deals get magic castle. I'm telling you this is the place to the only by the elite of Hollywood it is true illuminated the magic castle whereas Mike Ryan this is person so we hold on what was going on inside the Magic Castle Secret Society well. It's a secret secret no here then. How do I know you've been there right exactly. they take your picture ashamed. They've got like a red carpet thing outside the Ron and like yeah they do yeah no go in and there's like five or six shows and it's in this old house and there's all these like secret passageways back back room like stairs and you go through everywhere and there's like three or four bars throughout the place and yeah you'll just post up and guys walk around and do magic or you can go to like specific shows but I know Chris was talking about how he likes shitty magic but it's like this is like you know that the mind stuff where they like you know like put a card in your pocket like they. It filled my guy that they filled a buddy of mine. They filled his wallet up with like fake cash kind of thing so it's like a close magic it looks. It looks pretty legit. I'm not sure if they're doing you know the rabbit out of the hat. I don't know it's supposed to the best. How did you get the best like. How did you get invited to this? Magic Castle Buddy of mine nine plays music in La and his buddy is the piano player at the Magic Castle. He plays that player piano kind of thing. Oh wait till because if someone playing the piano but you can't seem kind of thing but like you know what I mean. How much did it cost you to go to the Magic Castle. It costs like a hundred and forty bucks or something like that per person. Was it worth it. It's pretty cool I think I'm good deal. It's not a one time deal. Magic Changes Day to day. he just told. US Piano is played by his friend in another another room novelty. You're not supposed to know that it's like a novel to go in there and drank and pip and yeah you go there. Drink drink or see and be seen and see some of the best up-close magic you'll ever see in your entire life by some of the best doing these paid performers or this is just a hang our anyone can walk in and start doing magic. No no no these are paid guys like the top bill for when I was there with some guy who like made it to the finals of one of those talent shows or something like that forget which one is with the more he tells us the less. This sounds like a secret society social club in the more. It seems like a haunted house Allison Lake. I guess but yeah like you guys said you can be a member too. So there are people who who will go like three or four four times a week. I guess member. It's like an annual pass for Disneyworld but it's different. It's like the rides at Disney change every time and IAN is. I've never ever been there and I want to be there so bad but I don't think I have the means or or just like the celebrity to get you have a rolex. Perhaps I have to trade that in and even then even then but from what I gathered there's just like you're walking through the magic castle and then they'll just be this dude dude in some threshold serfaty looking guy. I WanNa see some magic and you see told you at which point I say no thank you and I walk alkaline. Let's imagine nope no. He'll just pull you side and it'll be an audience of one and he'll do like a trick for you and then you'll be on your way. Trick my fist in your face. Thank you for the call. I guess no-one no-one on this. Show outside of respect for the finer things in life so far three calls me aside. They want to see some Hari getting them fist in the super bowl. You're going. It's GonNa take your money by the way speaking a magic having a magician on stupidity this week you ride wow right. Ask Ask him about the Magic Castle. He's a magician to the stars though he doesn't like he did the Matt Nagy Chicago bears that worked. I mean okay. He did that in the preseason but he also goes goes out to Lake Tahoe and he does it for Steph Curry Getty G. It always did you get him. I like Scotts. Here's what you're going to have to do. You spend your entire broadcast career trying to get into Augusta and leveraging all these relationships. The Magic Castle is the Gusta of magic casts okay. It seems like anyone can get in there one hundred and forty dollars nine and now it's more complex than that you saw that guy. They barely let him in with his medal pants. Are you telling calling if we all walked up to the Magic Castle today no with one hundred and forty dollars per person turned away. You're not going. I don't know cool enough. It's a the magic house. None thought open to the public is what you're saying. I don't know you have to have some sort of you know like there. There's certain benchmarks that you have to hit. Physical appearance probably probably got caught by astle. I think I got well. My thirties definitely no you can get into a relationship ship to get in. I'm going to try to get Mike and that's that's. That's what I try to do in Hollywood. I'M GONNA try to get you all right so wait the next time I'm there I have no interest in going there but but you seem seemed to have just sound like the most bad ass could ever mad. Oh mom you're missing out. We go out to Ryan close. Out is the last call we're going to take on today's local our Ryan Ryan. You're on the air going doing well Ryan. Let's get into it. what you guys. I'm thinking of my favorite things the like the nineties my love playing sports games on like Nintendo Super Nintendo. NHL Ninety four five my benchmark game the greatest game of all time. Oh good EA sports talk at Sega Genesis Right. I had to have genesis like anytime before the reason I love this because going going like two thousand seven. There were still names in that game. There were still playing and still relevant. Is that the army jogger like yeah. Is that the one in swingers that they're playing where so you can make the People's head bleed when you knock him on the ground like on the ice yeah yeah yeah absolutely you couldn't get into fights fights like you could knock people down and getting the crowd pumped up a lot right and I tried to get your desk full of all time so that was what my favorite game how fast yager that Yager lemieux line how fast they Baraza was probably the best goalie in that game. They were unbeatable. The the penguins Oh yeah but like the thing about that was is that the their speed will be a certain speed but when you started playing every year will be different so sometimes yager like skate super slow cycle for your lines and see who was actually skating faster that game versus like a guy who said he was like like ninety speed and he'd be scaling the slowest on the ice. You can state that best. Okay all right is. Is there anything else that the call Ryan now that was it. That's Ryan. Would you go to the Magic Castle. Yeah I see so. It's funny that the bar I go to locally the owner of the bar usually like once a year during football season he has he has the access like gay winded up place place so he's always offering up once a year during football season fries so I wanna know I live in southern southern California. I've called you guys every every morning like four thirty and I've been I think called one hundred nine times one time just to get Peru and I broken through a couple of times and I basically had like Mike all they had to go to works. Rien Kenny confirmed that the magic castle is a place SOUCI. NBC and it's where Hollywood's elite goes to play. I think so I think you you should go because you probably could find a connection into Augusta their weight. He just hold on a second Ryan. Just said that he could go if you wanted to go but he's never gone. Obviously he knows the bar owner of the most. Oh successful bar in southern California absolutely it's called sky box and if they absolutely dive bar and I love it. He's your ticket in the owner that you've never wanted to go right. I would go with he has a magician coming in every Wednesday from the Magic Castle and does card tricks and stuff like that in the bar. There's like he did the card trick. Re throws throws on the ceiling and there's like cards all around feeling the bar because that's the magician I'm not. I'm not joking. You did that trick for the Chicago bears of serious yes.

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Patriot, Big South, Horizon, NEC, Ohio Valley, Missouri Valley, & West Coast Conference Tournaments Picks & Predictions

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Patriot, Big South, Horizon, NEC, Ohio Valley, Missouri Valley, & West Coast Conference Tournaments Picks & Predictions

"We're talking a lot of conference tournament stuff. You're interacting with Kyle hunter of hunter sports fix dot com. And also bang book dot com, and we talk a lot about money line rollovers. We talk about looking for futures prices in these conference tournaments here. We also talk about hedging, and there are a lot of different ways. You can go about this future's market here in the month of March and one of them. You're a sports better, you about prop swap, let me tell you. It's one of the coolest things I've seen in a very long time. Here's how prop swap works. Let's say one hundred dollars futures. But on Michigan to win the NC double eight championship. They win their first two games. And you decide you know, what I want to guarantee some profit here. Well, you can listed for sale on props up and get paid early. It's that simple last year, for example, berry from Las Vegas ornate ten dollar ticket into a thousand dollars after just four games by selling on prop slop. So just gives you another opportunity gives you some different outs here in the futures betting market seeking go to prop swap dot com slash. TB to get started prop. Swap dot com slash BT. Be legal in a lot of states will have Ian on here in the month of March to talk a little bit more about props off. But you can go get a feel for what they have going on check out. What's available? Also, see what's for sale here? Over at props off dot com slash BTV. We got one more guest one more segment left for this. Tuesday, dish bang. What segment with Kyle hunter of hunter sports fix dot com. And also bang the book dotcom. How's it going today man going well, man, I always look forward to these shows? I didn't do I always look forward to them. And then blog talk radio does it's usual, Shannon. It's bullshit here today. So doing things a little bit differently as we're recording on Skype editing and cobbling together the show trying to get it out to you as quick as we possibly can here with three conference tournament starting tonight. The patriot the big south, and the horizon, the ace son started last night, we talked about that one last Friday. So Kyle before we get into these specific conference tournaments. We w-. Will cover seven of them on today's segment. Let's talk about some general notes here of things that people want to look for. Yeah. I think there's several things that people should know ahead of time before you dive deep end each conference. First of all, you know, there's a big difference between neutral site tournaments in home normal home locations for conference tournaments in totals betting youngsters have been much better on neutral sites. You know? It's split exactly even to fifty three to fifty three on normal home location. So the underst- fifty two point two percent on neutrals in a conference tournament game and keep in mind, this is on a closing line. These are very commonly bad now. So the opening line would certainly be higher than fifty two point two percent on yonder. The other thing I wanted to point out was totals of one forty nine and a half or higher on a neutral site and conference tournaments one ninety one and one forty eight the under on the closing line. That's fifty six point three percent. Now, let me ask you this. I'm kind of curious your take on something like this. We talk about unders being good on neutral or at neutral sites. Do you feel like the under is? Stronger early in the tournament because it's a neutral site and the teams are getting used to it or is the under stronger later in the tournament when fatigue can be more of a factor, and the games are increasing in importance. This is a tough question. I don't think I know the answer to this because you know, you say well teams not used to that location. So the first game would be lower for shooting percentages. But there are some really strong angles for both teams playing on a back to back in that second game. The under has been very good. I think the under probably is even better multiple days. Once you get later into the tournament partially also because it means more, you know that game. You're you're that much closer, especially in these small conferences, you're not gonna make it unless you get to unless you win the automatic berth in most of these teams are not going to get the at large. So I think the games mean more and you play the day before. So I would lean toward that. However, I don't think that the under the bad play on the first day either because you know, the shooting backdrops are. Different. If you're used to playing there, then I think that you know, the longer in the tournament it goes, the better the under would be without any rest, but you know, the neutral sites where you're not used to playing there at all. I think the under has some value early on in probably even more later. All right. So again, we talk about totals for conference tournaments fifty two point two percent to the under on a neutral floor. Exactly fifty percent on the campus sites. So what about some ATS considerations for the conference tournaments favorites? Overall or fifty point seven percent ATS. So favorites have been a little bit better. That's a really large sample size. But I wanted to point out that laying a big numbers benun profitable dogs of fifteen points or more sixty seven and forty six ATS. That's fifty nine point three percent. This makes a lot of sense to me you take a team. That's a huge underdog. They've likely been pretty bad here at the end of the regular season. They probably didn't even care the end of the regular season. Now, they care because this is their last chance, I think it makes a lot of sense that underdogs of fifteen points or more would cover it a pretty good rate. Now, obviously, you're not gonna see too many of those because you know, most teams aren't going to be underdogs by that many points. But something to keep in mind when you. Go to laying a big number in conference tournaments as we said, you know, laying a big number when it comes to the end of the regular season can make a lot of sense, but here in conference tournaments. It is not another one that I wanted. I wanted to point out rested teams at least a day off in between their games playing against teams that are back to back. Fifty two point eight percent ATS on the rest of the team. Fifty four point nine percent ATS when their opponent won by single digits the day before again, this is a hard fought game. They just one by single digits. It goes up to fifty four point nine percent ATS you filter that down by favorites of five and a half points or less or an underdog in this spot one hundred sixty six ATS sixty point two percent. So definitely the rested teams while they may get a bit of a slow start because the other team has been playing in his accustomed to this gym, and the long term it it would allow him. It will even self out and even more with the rest of the teams being good. I will say that. I think that the the second half. Half in these arrested teams would have even more value. I'd I don't have a way to search that. But I would guess that you know, in the first half they got to get things going a little bit in the second half. He's arrested teams likely do even better yet angle makes a lot of sets. And in fact, you know, as we're looking here, we do have some more data to back that up in terms of looking at the first half and some over and under an ATS transfer that first half only underdogs of five and a half points or more in the first half or fifty three and a half percent ATS since two thousand five to forty four and two twelve ATS. They're also unders fifty two and a half percent in first-half conference tournaments since two thousand five the understand a little bit better in the first half dozen the full game. Again, I think this makes sense because you know, at the end of the game, you can get some epoch foul fests in these conference tournaments teams. Don't want their season to be over. And you have the a lot of games are in locations that you're not used to playing in in the first half the shooting numbers would likely. Be even worse are says we give into these conference tournament breakdowns here. I know we had lists or questions regarding money line rollovers regarding tournament venues that were very good for the over very good for the under will work those in to our breakdown of these conference tournaments. We will hit seven of them here on today's show from this point forward. Again, my apologies for the technical issues. Stay that kind of pushed back the release time for today's show. I know it's important to get this out with three conference tournaments today. But you know, things happen, and I apologize for that. But let's go ahead and get into these year beginning with the patriot league. Now, again, this is one of those conferences that wasn't regularly lined up until this season. We've done all of our conference breakdown. So our listeners have a little bit of an idea of what to expect with these teams here you've got Colgate. The favourite plus one thirty over at five times plus one ten at Ben online Hucknall plus one ninety Lee high plus five fifty American plus nine hundred. Nobody else really has a chance to win this conference tournament as always shop around for the best prices. But let's start to break. This thing down here. Kyle what are you seeing from the patriot league? Well to me you look at Colgate. They get the top seed thanks to about. Now really struggling at the end of the season. That's key for having home games here, certainly higher seed hosting. There's nothing strong here for over unders if you look back at the patriot league, it's almost exactly fifty fifty definitely pace wars in this conference. There's plenty of teams that wanna play fast teams. I want to slow it down. I don't think this draws a straightforward as it looks though. I think Colgate being favoured in the betting market and yesterday, they were even a bigger betting favorite. I mean, it makes sense that the top seeds a little bit of a favorite. I would say, but you know, they have homecourt advantage. But they don't have an easy drawl. If Boston you wins at first game Boston you already wanted Colgate. Earlier this year Colgate being American twice if American would. Play them after that they beat them by four points. And that was a comeback win. American was added most of that game. And then once by over in overtime by two points. So American has arguably the best player in this conference in Nelson. So I think Colgate has a difficult draw there at the top, you know, Bucknell has been here before knows how to win it number one in defensive efficiency in the league. Certainly you can say the Bucknell didn't finish the year out very well. And that I would agree with that. But, you know, having one this before I think means quite a bit. I liked Bucknell. Some in this conference, certainly Lee high wanted to mention I can't take them here. They're Owen four against Bucknell. Colgate number seven in defensive efficiency in the league to me. You know, this is a team that they have a good offense. They can outscore you sometimes. But I don't wanna count on them to have to do that every game because they don't have a defense, and they haven't proven they could beat the top teams in the league. And to me that's a pretty big red flag. What I put up. This conference servant preview. I hit these pretty quickly after the odds were released yesterday posted him obeying the book dotcom. Colgate was in the plus one ten range Bucknell plus two fifteen American plus seven twenty five American has gone up now to plus nine hundred but you and I were talking yesterday. This Colgate price was getting out of control somebody that really liked. Colgate was hammering them over and over and over again, you wind up catching Bucknell plus four sixty which is a phenomenal price grab in the patriot league here so kudos to you for that. But you're the team really intriguing to me is American because American is a team here that draws a very weak five seat in navy in the first game. And then as you mention played Colgate, very tough early on the thing is we have to weigh whether plus nine hundred is worth it or the money line rollovers worth it. I think the money line rollover would probably be better in this case if you look at. This conference. There are a lot of close games in this conference. So they won't be a huge underdog. But I know that American their prices moved allow around a lot. I mean, honestly in general this conference, the odds of been very strange like you said, you know, Colgate, I think was minus one eighty or minus one seventy at one point. And then also I know American was plus twelve hundred last night. So the price has gotten worse there since last night, plus twelve hundred I probably would have taken the futures price. I think now the money line rollover makes sense. You know, and as we say in the past, and I'll go ahead and just tease it a little bit here. Now Moneyline rollovers the biggest positive to them as you don't have to worry about how to hedge you can just bet the money line rolled over to the next game. And then whenever you want to stop you can just stop or you can even bet less. You don't have to put everything you just had from the game before into it. So I think it's easier to to figure out what to do in the next game. Well, of course, as we look at this. We don't have odds out for Thursday's American versus navy game American is at home in that game. They will be a pretty clear favourite in that spot on thinking what Kyle maybe six seven point something like that. Maybe even a little bit bigger of a number there. But they would be a dog keep in mind. This is a home-court advantage tournament. So they would be a dog on the road at Colgate. They would be a dog on the road at Bucknell. That's why you think about the money line rollover because you start with a position you'll let's say that you have to start with just to make the math. Eighty two fifty to win a hundred on the American money line on Thursday. Then you've got three fifty to roll into them as an underdog against Colgate. Let's say they're maybe plus one fifty there. So you've got your three fifty investment plus one fifty you win that one. Then you go on you've got the Bucknell game as you go through this here, you're going to yield more of a return than plus nine hundred in most cases with American unless there's some weird upset or something like that. Which is why the money roll over makes sense. Yeah. I think so too. And I think Colgate would likely be favored by six and a half or seven points against Americans. So that being the case, then you get a pretty decent price on the money line just in that game. So I think that a lot of these we talked about this yesterday. I'd say maybe somewhere in the eighty eighty five percent range the money line rollovers probably going to finish ahead of the futures price. Certainly sometimes that you can get a strange features price to where it will make more sense. But. The money line rollovers, obviously some downside to that. You have to remember rolled-over and bet the next game. You know, if your very busy the next day, you might miss the tip off, or if you had the futures price you'd already have it. But at the same time, you get the positive about hedging because I know that hedging can be pretty complicated on futures. And it's something that we get quite a few questions about that. You know, how much do I put on this team? You know, how much will have left if they lose this game. Or if they win this game and keep going, you know, it's certainly easier. If you have money line roll over like, I said because then you can just decide you wanna bet less on it or you wanna stop. And if you stop then you just win what you had right? And a lot of cases it's going to be really easy to see these when the team is going to be a dog in all of their games because then it's just, you know, very simple math because you can start with the hundred dollar position or whatever. And then you can see it gradually increase and that it's very easy to do. The math and see it go higher than the futures price. Here because you have to put out the bigger initial investment on American because they'll be a clear favourite in that first game. It's a little bit different. But again, as you said a couple of really big advantages higher profit potential and also you hedge by not betting it anymore or by betting a smaller amount. So it gives you a much better opportunity there with that excuse me. We will get some better examples of this than American as we go throughout the conference tournaments here at one of them specifically that we'll talk about tomorrow east, Tennessee State in the so con-, well, we move onto the big south conference tournament here. This is another one at campus sites to would degree the first round at the campus sites. The quarterfinals in the semi-finals at the number one seed, which is the Campbell fighting Campbell's here this time, and then the highest remaining seed hosts the championship game on Sunday. So first games at campus sites quarterfinals at semi's at Campbell than a championship at Campbell. If they get there. But at the highest seeded team if they don't so what are you looking at here in the big south Kyle? Well, first thing is I wanted to say that favorites of seven and a half points or less in this conference tournament or thirty two and twenty one in the last fifty three so small favorites have done well here in the big south. You know, I think that this is an interesting conference in that Radford seems like they're the best team in this conference. I do think that they are the best team in this conference, but they have two tough losses against Campbell. They blew lead. And both of those games. You got Chris Clemens. A lot of fun to watch their Campbell. Definitely can carry his team. I still think that Radford, you know, is the team that I that I like in this conference. I liked their non conference schedule. I liked that they played up in the non conference that they were able to win some of those games. And they have a pretty veterans team a good coach plus two hundred now in five times I liked Radford here. I think that they would be the one that I would play if you're just looking for who you think will actually win this conference tournament. Another team that I wanted to say here Hampton, I think Hamptons a team to watch here because they match up pretty well against Campbell. And you look at the regular season they beat them once they lost once by three points germane Mero, a star here for Hampton. I think he's capable of taking a break game. Certainly. So as Chris Clements, and you have to give a shout out to the fighting camels. That's a pretty awesome nickname. But you know, I don't I don't want to discount Campbell in this one. But I do think that they might be a week or once eat and some of the seeds that we see the top line. And a lot of the other conferences, they'd you look at Hampton last year they were one win from the NCAA tournament. And now they go over the big south. I mean, I think Hampton could make a run here. I don't think they'll win this conference tournament. But I think a Hampton money line rollover makes a lot of sense my pick to win it. Here would be Radford last night. It was plus one sixty it's plus two hundred now I d like Radford in Hampton Nightline rollover over here. Bradford plus two hundred Campbell. Again, the host team for the quarters and the semi's and the championship game. If they got their plus two fifty Winthrop plus four forty five Gardner Webb plus nine hundred Charleston. Southern is the team that I like here as a little bit of a longer shot plus eleven hundred in this one they were plus seven hundred when the odds open so much better price. Now, I'd have to actually take a look and see how the money line rollover would look with them. They do play tonight, but they play USC upstate there. Two touchdown favorite in that game. Then they would play Winthrop Thursday afternoon. They lost to Winthrop twice, but they lost by four points. And then lost in double overtime by two points, so Charleston southern who split with Radford only lost by a point to Campbell. They're the team that I like here in this conference where the money line rollover, probably would make more sense. Yeah. I think so as well. And I think that makes sense also because I'm trying to stay away from winter up here. I think that they have too many turnovers. Problems. They're not very good defensively this year, I know Winthrop's done well in the past. They don't really have the veteran presence that they've had a lot of other times in the past think this winter team is weaker than a lot of those teams. We've seen certainly I think the Charleston southern side looks like a decent underdog as well. And I do think the money line roll over would be a good way to go in that one. I think Radford winces conference tournaments. So I liked plus two hundred. I think Hampton and Charleston southern a pretty good sleepers as well. Well, and again you look at Charleston southern here. You don't start the money line rollover tonight because there are fourteen and a half point favorite. There's absolutely no reason to start at that point. What they'll be a dog to winter on Thursday. They'll be a dog to Radford on Friday, and they would be a dog in the championship game in all likelihood on Sunday. So that's why you start to look at money line rollover because if you've got a team it's an underdog in three straight games, and you can roll that over you roll your hundred dollar bet over with three underdog plays. That's gotta be worth more certainly than the seven hundred that was out there at first and probably more than the eleven hundred right now as well. Yeah. It'd been way more than seven hundred it's like a little bit more than eleven hundred as well. You know, I think that this is a conference where you know. It's not easy to say who's going to win this when I think Radford if they had hosted this tournament would have been a pretty big favorite. But since they don't get it home, you know, their plus two hundred instead to me that gives you value on Radford. I think they're the best team. But, you know, there are plenty of openings in this tournament in that, you know, I don't I don't really think that the the one seed the three seed are very strong, which gives you some shots to try to take some of these money on rollovers because then you have some teams that even if they don't win it all they could make it pretty decent run ear well in another thing you can do with these conference tournaments here. And I realize we're spending a lot of time on the big south. But this one sets up pretty well. For a lot of our talking points, you take Charleston southern and Radford as sort of double teaming win price. Because as you said, you don't think Winthrop's are very good team wanna turnover problems. Well, if Charleston southern beats went through then you're free rolling in the semifinals with both wind or with both Charleston. Southern and Radford you're guaranteed to get one of those teams in the championship game against probably a week number one in Campbell. So you're basically double teaming that three see that you think is pretty weak, and you can do that as almost a hedge against Charleston southern as well. Yeah. Definitely I like that type of strategy where you might have a chance of being being there on both sides. And if you're there on both sides like you said, then you're going to have one team at least get through. I will point out that you know, when I say Campbell's week or one seed Winthrop's a week or three seat. I'm not saying that they can't win this conference tournament a certainly could happen. And it won't shock me. I just think that it creates value because I think more times than not more times than what the price shows right now, you would have some value going with the underdog based on the fact that those teams have shown question marks, you know, they're not the the really strong one seat or the really strong three. See that really proved a lot in non conference slate or just beat up on teams in the conference. So I think that just gives us a chance to look for these values. All right. So we move onto the horizon league tournament, which starts tonight games on the campus sites. There's two tonight I believe in two tomorrow. And then next week we go out to a Little Caesars arena in Detroit for this. One northern Kentucky is the two seed, but the favorite plus one sixty right state, the number one seed plus to ten Oakland is three there. Plus five hundred Green Bay's, the four there nine seventy five Illinois, Chicago, you I see is the five they're fourteen hundred the number eight seed UP y who plays right state tonight in as a seven and a half point dog is next plus fifteen hundred then Detroit mercy and Youngstown state to round this thing out. So first let's start with the venue here for Little Caesars arena coming up next week Monday. Tuesdays when they'll be in Detroit. This is a relatively new. Host for this tournament. Yeah. I mean, there's there's not much data to go on here. Just slight nudge the under based on the results of recent. But I would say that I think this this venue should play to the under some it's twenty thousand seat complex horizon league teams are not used to playing in that they're also not going to have these seats full. Obviously, there's no way they're going to be that many people show up to watch his conference ernment, and we've talked about in the past that it's a negative for shooting shooting backdrop when you have a massive facility, and you know, a very small amount of people in it. I don't want to guess how many people be there. I just know it won't be even close to twenty thousand you know, when you get a massive arena like that. And there's so many empty seats. It's a little bit harder to shoot, you know, you see so many empty seats. You're also not used to how deep the backdrop is things like that when you're playing in venues where there aren't near as many seats normally. So I think that even though the Little Caesars arena, we don't have much. On it. I think it certainly nudges too the under at least some and I will say that the rise in league has been a pretty good under league this year because there's so many any fishing offenses that teams that play really fast. So you get some high totals, but they don't make that many shots. So certainly would lean toward the under and the games that get to Little Caesars arena on as we look at the horizon league as a whole here. There are some shenanigans in this conference tournament to number four seeds in number two seed the last three years in twenty fourteen number five seat one and the last two years in the conference tournament title game, a number eight seed in Wisconsin, Milwaukee number ten seed in Cleveland, maybe it's the other way around but other way, eight seed and a ten seed have been the losers in the conference tournament championship game. So this thing can be very wide open. Absolutely. It's been one of the most wide open of all of them. And I was looking at yesterday with the the odds on five times the number one through seat. Three seed wins the horizon league championship. I think yesterday was minus three twenty five or somewhere in that range today. It's only minus two seventy five so likely somebody has been betting the number four through eight seat to win the horizon league championship. I wouldn't blame you, you know, plus to thirty five now it was better price than that before. Like, you said some strange things have happened here. Why should be surprised if something like that happens this year? No, I really won't the question is who could it be, you know? And I think you I see has a chance of being it. I'm pretty confident UIC is the one that you could do better than plus fourteen hundred on money line rollover, I mean because they're an underdog right off the bat. So you know, they're going to be an underdog every single game. I think you get better than plus fourteen hundred. I honestly think that anybody who plays against right state and that second game if they get past UP, you I which they probably will because I you is been in pretty bad form here late but whoever plays that game right state. Either Green Bay are you I see could could have run year. I mean, I think that right state certainly beatable if you look at Wright state one reason I wanted to say there's a couple of reasons why I'm going against right state, or I would look to go against right state here a tough path. I mean, even UP you I even though I think they'll beat them. Not an easy game for them. UIC? Green Bay think's very tough match-up and number two right state has been really really bad against on defense assists year. According to synergy sports, they rank in the top twenty four percent in the country in offense of efficiency against man defense. The rank in the bottom five percent of all teams in the country against zone defense. Now, you know, somebody's gonna put his own against them because everybody can see that data. You know, that that's one of those things where coaches are going to watch the tape. They're going to see the data somebody's going to try zone defense against right state. And you got a new shooting backdrop there at Little Caesars arena. I think this sets up pretty badly here for right state. I agree. Right state has a really really tough draw one of my video picks over on our bang book YouTube pitch today was UPI plus the points. No. They haven't played particularly well, but in their last six games, they're losses or by a combined twenty three points. They lost their last game by eleven points to Detroit to Oakland before that five games. You know, what their losses by a combined eleven or twelve points. So you know, they were playing a lot of close games. They just weren't winning them. They should play close game again tonight. And then if you run into Green Bay or Illinois Chicago in that semifinal game next Monday bolted those teams like to play at a quicker tempo as well. Green Bay specifically top ten in the country and tempo then you've got to turn around and play probably northern Kentucky on Tuesday northern Kentucky is a team that both you and I like your as well. Yeah. I think northern Kentucky is likely the best team in the conference. Drew McDonald has been injured. I came back and played pretty well in his first came back here. So I hope that he is healthy because. Certainly he means a lot to this northern Kentucky team if you know anything about northern Kentucky. You know that everything runs through. Drew McDonald veteran leader I liked the northern Kentucky has what I would consider one of the best coaches here. They've had a lot of success in this conference in the past. I think that you know, success can breed success and things like this because you get to that point. You're not in all of the big stage. So I like northern Kentucky as the team that I think will win this conference tournament. I also like if you look at northern Kentucky's drawl, I mean, look at your they have I've heard some people say northern tuck has to play against teams who are so close to home, you know, at Little Caesars arena, this this is one where well first of all is is it the home team's people hosting the first game. Is that right atom? Yes. So Detroit has to go to northern Kentucky. And then northern Kentucky would play at Little Caesars arena in the semifinals. Correct. Right. Okay. Yes. So they only have. One game. Like that Detroit would not have any kind of homecourt advantage. You got northern Tukhy look at the amount of points. They put up against Detroit in those two games. Detroit's defense very weak. If they get past him in that game, they play Oakland or Youngstown state who could pull that upset. I like campy a good coach for Oakland. But Oakland's defense is really bad as well. Northern Kentucky is the one balanced team down the bottom of that bracket. I think this bracket sets up really well for them to be in the championship game. It wouldn't surprise me. If we see like a northern Kentucky verse you I see championship or not in Kentucky versus Green Bay something. Like that. That's why I think it makes a lot of sense to play northern Kentucky as the team that's most likely to win this conference tournament. And then put something small on one of the teams from the top as well it northern Kentucky, plus one forty over a better line, plus one sixty at five times so get shop around for the best price. But it does look like northern Kentucky of the team that you and I both like here in this conference tournament. So again. I apologize for the technical issues here today. I will get this up as quickly as possible to get thoughts out on those three conference tournaments that start tonight. What we shift our focus to Wednesday here. Sorry about the northeast conference. And really this is a hard conference to peg because you've got see Francis Pennsylvania, plus one eighty five fairly Dickenson plus to ten secret heart, plus three eighty Bobby Morris, plus eight hundred than plus eighteen hundred on down from there. And we look we talked about this. The winner of this conference plays a sixteen versus sixteen play in game in Dayton and probably gets beaten there. Yeah. Likely. Hope you have a stronger team that you like more than I do in this one. I like to give you something that I really like here. I just really don't like anything in this conference. I will say a couple of stats here. The underdog forty one in twenty five ATS in the last sixty six in this conference tournament dogs of three points or more thirty seven and twenty ATS. We see a lot of close games here. That makes a lot of sense to me. There's no dominant team not that's going to run away with here. I think Saint Francis. Probably the best team in this conference. We talked about them. What was it last week? It was pretty recently. You know, their value was only it was only plus one twenty last night. So the odds of certainly gotten better on them here today, I think they're the best team in this conference. But I don't think there's any wide margin. As you look at it. Because they've been tripped up by of teams in this turnament or in this conference throughout the year. I think that this is one where you could see some, you know, really low rated team that wouldn't expect get pretty far in it as. Well, so maybe wanna take some kind of really long shot here fairly Dickinson a team that I usually wouldn't like because their jump shot heavy though, they have some really good metrics on the road. This season has la- metrics and other goods website to look at has them in the top thirty and performance on the road so far this season. So I like that that they even though they're jump shot heavy team. They've been able to make those shots on the road. They've been able to win on how to games that way. So so maybe a little bit of value with them. But only, you know, just a little over plus two hundred. So I I can't say that I like anything very much here. Yeah. There there's really not a whole lot that. I like you're either one thing that is kind of interesting here in one thing that could add some potential value to the Saint Francis. Pa side is that this tournament discomforts firm. It does reseed after the first round game. So if there's an upset Saint Francis theoretically could face in eight to six or an eight and a seven something like that in the first two games here. Which would obviously give them a pretty good advantage on Saturday. But also Saint Francis team that lost to the eighth seed lost to the seven seed and lost six during the regular season. So there's obviously no guarantee that Saturday goes any better for them based on who they wind up facing. I kind of liked Robert Morris a little bit just because they started really well in conference play seven and one. But then went four and six the rest of the way and wass to the two teams that didn't even qualify for the conference tournament. So kind of hard to like them hard to like say Francis. This conference sermon that I'm going to stay away from I don't see a whole lot of value. If my head to do something because Saint Francis Pennsylvania could get lucky with that drawn the event of an upset and plus one sixty I guess they've got the best chance. Yeah. And plus plus one eighty five so I mean, it's it's one of those where I if I had that it I bet that as well. But I don't have to bet it. We don't have to bet this one. So I'm not going to bet this one. I we have tons of conference tournaments to talk about anything disc can be better values. Elsewhere and the next to convert shirts, we're gonna talk about very very interesting. I really love the Ohio valley conference tournament. I it's probably my favorite low major conference tournament here of this conference tournaments cycle. You've got four teams that are very very good in this conference. I would say three probably that actually have a good shot to win it. Belmont your favorite plus one ten Murray. State your second favorite, plus one fifty five those teams get double. Size into the semi-finals. So huge advantage for Belmont Murray. State Jacksonville state, plus seven twenty five Austin P, plus eleven hundred nobody else has shot. And the odds reflect that interesting thing about the venue here for this tournament. It's no longer at the national municipal auditorium. Like it used to be had a new venue last year, and they're back there again this year. Yeah. That's a bummer for total spatters because the Nashville venue is an under machine this great one to two spent the Onder and forget about especially the first half under Ford center, new venue, unknown to me, whether this is a good one for the Onder or not last year. It wasn't particularly good for the Onder. But it's one year. You know, I think we need to give this a little bit of time. You know, I think the Belmont makes sense to be the favourite here Murray state easily the second favorite. Look those two are favored by so much because of the setup of this conference tournament like you said the double by we rarely see. Now that makes a big difference. You know, you play one last game one less chance of having a really poor shooting night. Jacksonville state a distant third. I have to say that. I think Murray states a little bit overvalued here a near they'll oughta people won't like that Morand is a tremendous player. I have nothing negative to say about him think he'll be good NBA player. But the group around him is not as good as Murray state, usually has you know, he's gotten a lot of publicity this year as well. I think Murray state has one massive weakness, and that's defense of rebounding and two of the other top teams here in this league. Can take advantage of that in Jacksonville state and Austin P Jacksonville state beat Murray state bad in the one game that they played against them there. I think it was a twenty point win. So you've got Murray state team that I think is a little bit overvalued Belmont. I can't say anything negative about them. You know, they're they're very good every year. Very well. Coached to me though, you will. Look at this conversation moment, I think you and I are on same page here. Ray Harper really good coach Jacksonville state, the third most experienced team in the conference. I have to lie. Jacksonville state here. I think you would get better price certainly than plus seven twenty five on the money line rollover. They have to play more games. I know it it would not surprise me. Jacksonville state winces conference tournament. I think they certainly have a chance to do. So, you know, the the schedule sets up pretty well for them in that they stay away from Belmont. I like Jacksonville state here. Yeah. I mean, I think this is one of those where I would look to take a position on Belmont. I know the favorite plus one ten, but they're the best team in this conference and that double by very advantageous. And Furthermore, Austin P is a much easier. Semi-final game the Jacksonville state. So I take Belmont. Plus the one ten and then look at the Jacksonville state Moneyline rollover as well. And you don't need to start that Jacksonville state roll over until you get to that game against Murray state because. They'll be a big it's eastern, Illinois or UT Martin. So I wouldn't worry about it there. I would look for a two game Moneyline rollover Jacksonville state with Murray state and Belmont. And obviously if you've got Belmont in pocket, plus one ten you free rule the championship game of Jacksonville state. It's right. Yeah. I mean, you set to watch what what amount you put on each side there. You know, you wouldn't want to bet. Belmont huge. And then just have Jacksonville state as a small play. But, you know, watch your unit sizes. I think the Belmont is certainly deserving as a favorite here. The bruins. Like, I said, I can't really say anything negative about them. They're always very good the best coach in the conference. I think Harper's the second best coach in this conference though. I think Belmont Jacksonville state final. Here's is pretty likely. All right. So we moved to the Missouri valley conference tournament here, and this one it looks a lot different. When you don't have teams like Creighton or Wichita state in the field this year. It is. Very very spread out. Probably the most spread out. I can remember this thing being little all Chicago. Plus one eighty Drake plus four hundred southern Illinois five fifty Missouri. State five seventy five Bradley eight fifty northern Iowa twelve hundred even teams like Illinois state, only eighteen hundred Indiana, twenty two hundred valpo and Evansville, five thousand the first thing we have to talk about though with this conference tournament is the venue in Saint Louis yet the Onder is eighty four and forty three in the last one twenty seven Missouri valley conference tournament contests sixty six point one percent unders that's pretty impressive over that period of time. The number goes up to sixty eight point six percent unders on totals one twenty or higher. So I'm not saying one forty or something really high one twenty or higher sixty eight point six percent. Unders Scott Trade Center, proven very very good under arena. I don't think we'll have a better under. Arena in any of the games. We talk about the only other one that could be as Madison Square Garden, you know, in Scott train is right up there with that. Which is saying a lot because MSG is a proven very good under arena the caveat. I have about this one though, everybody knows this. Now, you know a few a few years ago. You would have had, you know, one thirties and the line would just stay put now you're gonna have one twenty five is what it opens at. And then it's going to take down to one twenty or you know, somebody's going bet it down hard. So if you like the under here in any of these games, I really suggest you bet it early rather than late. I think it's really impressive to me that they've had that many unders against the closing line. Even though the last couple years it has been getting that down pretty consistently. This is a conference tournament that it would be. I just would not play an over here. The question is whether I play under or not I think the value is not nearly as good as what it would have been a few years ago. But you know, Scott Trade Center an arena where I don't want any part of the over. So as we look at this conference, by the way, they rename this arena, the enterprise centre different naming rights. So just nobody gets confused. It's still the same venue, just the enterprise centre this time around instead of the Scott Trade Center. So don't get confused by that it is still the same building still the same under machine still the same bad shooting backdrop now this covers from it starts on Thursday the eight nine game then the seven ten game. He eight nine winner replace it six oh five central time on Thursday, please loyalist Chicago at twelve oh five in the afternoon on Friday, huge advantage delillo Chicago over either Indiana state or Valparaiso not so bad for the seven ten game that police Drake at six zero five. So what do you think about teams for this thing? Obviously, it's an under machine kind of arena. And you know, hey, maybe that affects the teams that you want to take because you wanna look at teams that play really good defense. They get. An inherited vantage here what this thing's Lytle. Yeah. I I will say I think the valley conferences much weaker than it was years ago. You know, I watched quite a bit of in VC basketball this year. I was not impressed with the the level of play a few years ago. This was a really good mid major. They're not near as good as they were a few years ago. I will say that I think that loyalist Chicago is the team with the highest upside here, I don't really want to take any sleeper team around them because they're so good on defense. They play the way that they they wanna play. They're gonna make you play slow. They're going to win with defense taking care of the basketball. This is a good loyalist Chicago team that kind of underachieved throughout the course of the season wouldn't wanna go against them. I think the Drake is a nice story. I think the first year coach dairy and debris did a tremendous job. I think they're very vulnerable as a two seat though. So I'm looking for value against them. So you go to the bottom of the bracket. And you say, you know, who who do I like in the bottom bracket, I think there are two two options here that I I'd be fine with taking one. In southern Illinois, southern Illinois, a pretty pretty good team. Well, coached they have some depth. They can play different ways they can play a little faster if you wanna play faster, they can slow it down Drake wants to push. The peso Drake is one of the rare teams in this conference that wants to play faster the other team that I would say in the bottom. It noise state. Look Illinois state was a massive underachiever in the regular season here. They lost two games by the half court buzzer beaters that's going to bother you. I mean, if you lose two games that way, you're going to have trouble bouncing back from that. Illinois state did have trouble with that one. Always stay lost. A lot of close games before the season. They were picked by most people to be their second or third in this conference. And now they've got the seven seed I have to like them some here because Illinois state should beat Evansville in that first game, obviously wouldn't guarantee it because they've been so inconsistent. Then they played Drake Drake has had a tough time matching up against them. This year. And as I said, I think Drake is a week to seed. So Illinois state has a real shot to win a couple of games here. And then if they go play southern Illinois or northern Iowa, certainly that's a winnable game for them. So I think Illinois state either plus eighteen hundred or money line roll over, and I think that might be pretty close as to which would be better because it won't always state is going to be respected by the books. More than the average seven seat would be. Yeah, I liked this. You know, this is sort of like the same concept that we talked about in terms of teaming up on Winthrop where I like Illinois state against Drake. I like southern Illinois against Drake. I even to a degree northern Iowa against Drake. Right. Just feels like a bull number two seat. As you mentioned, you know, I kind of liked southern Illinois at first, but, you know, the price on southern Illinois plus five fifty way different than the price and Illinois state, plus eighteen hundred and Illinois state shouldn't have a problem in that first game against Evansville. They'll be a pretty clear favourite should take care of business there. Yeah. The fourth game doesn't really help. I guess, but it shouldn't lead to. That big of a price gap between them in southern Illinois. Southern Illinois does have a coin flip game against northern Iowa on Friday night that worries me for the Salukis if they had an easier first game. I would look to take them what? Because there's a decent chance. They lose that game to the Panthers. It is a little bit more difficult to take them. I think you've convinced me here on Illinois state. And again, the nice thing about state is if you don't wanna take them against loyalist, Chicago, if you're doing a Moneyline rollover you to stop. Right. Right. And if they get the lowest you cog, go, and you have plus team plus eighteen hundred then you're going to have plenty of room to hedge out if you do that as well. But I think that you know, the thing that makes me not like southern Illinois quite as much as I would have is exactly what you just said. Southern Illinois plays a tough game against northern Iowa. You know, I don't know if they'll win that game. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't I don't think that's much of an easier game than Illinois state against Drake. You know? I mean is northern I without much worse than Drake. I don't think. So I mean, they on a neutral they would be pretty close. So I think Illinois state just because they're at such a bigger price. That's the way I have to look, and I do think like I said, I think loyal was Chicago is favourite for a reason. So if you like Lois, Chicago, you could also take Loyola antique, Illinois state, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing either. Yeah. It's also a good idea again attacking it kind of for both sides there as we talked about a little bit with the the big south conference tournament. I agree. They got a stretch. What eighty is enough oil Chicago, I think because of their level of consistency relative to the rest of this conference. It's probably good enough to take. I think. Yeah. I think so too. I mean, we might get a little bit better price here. I know that these prices have moved around, and they usually get a little bit better later that kind of tighten up last use on them. So you know, you might get a plus two hundred on oil. If you do I think that's a good price. I think they're the most likely winner of this tournament, and obviously loyal played against a team like Eleanor stay they'd be at a big advantage based on state having to play so many games to get there. All right. So like, I said we had some technical issues here. Excuse me with the first run that we took at today's show because it blocked talk radio at least we can make up some time here by talking about the west coast conference because yeah, this is a one team race the only team that can beat Gonzaga is themselves. They are minus ten fifty to win this conference tournament. They won every conference game in the regular season by at least twelve points Saint Mary's plus seven fifty BYU plus three. Thousand San Francisco plus five thousand San Diego, plus eighty five hundred everybody else on down from there is there any betting value here in the west coast conference tournament. The lowest I see own I guess, minus eight fifty I mean that that might be a decent price. But I'm not gonna recommend taking my safe shifty. I can't do that. You know? I feel like if we say take team minus eight fifty we sound pretty bad. You know, I mean who really wants to lay fifty on a conference tournament. I don't I won't do it. I think it's AGA's gonna win this conference tournament. I think everybody knows that you know. I mean, you pointed out what gets it. I get was last year. What was it minus two hundred? Yeah. Nice to go back to that. Right. Yeah. I tell you what if they remind is two hundred. I'd be all over it. But so what if I remember correctly, we were all over it last year with Gonzaga, minus two hundred eight closed higher than that. Yeah. I think I remember that as well. I mean, this this is one where there's there's less of a threat to them this year. And there was last season. Saint Mary's is not as good as they wear San Francisco. Look like they had some potential earlier this year, and they really fizzled out later in the season. BYU yearly child's a really good player. They don't have as much depth though. I mean, it'd be stunning if anybody else wins this tournament, I will say that the only thing I may do here in this one is take a San Diego money line rollover. San Diego's a team that has played pretty well this year I liked their balance on offense and defense. I would definitely stop before Gonzaga. I will say that. So and again, I I'd bet this one really small if I did because it's hard to find much value here. I did want to say this far as the venue the over sixty and forty eight. And the last one eight year two west coast conference tournament Orleans arena is not known for a bag bad backdrop, so overs would be fine here totals of one forty eight and a half or higher at Orleans arena in this conference tournament or eight one to the over. I know that's not a big sample size. So I don't read a lot into that. I will just say that you can get some high scoring games here some shootouts in this one. And let's be honest. Why are there some shootouts and these because Gonzaga's putting up huge point totals? Well, and again, the reason why you look at the money line rollover for San Diego instead of playing the plus eighty five hundred is because you don't want to have to hedge Gonzaga as what probably a minus three thousand money line favorite in the championship game. I mean that just feels like it's not really worth it. So you just take San Diego on the money line rollover to beat BYU and beat Saint Mary's would be what you're looking for here in this conference sermon to try to extract some value. But as Kyle said at least the overlooks like something you can do with. Those late night degenerates special Seyran conference tournament week. So we got through all seven I think we did. So in a pretty reasonable amount of time here, we'll touch on five more on tomorrow's show that will be the MA AC the so-called the America east, colonial and the summit. Kyle hunter professionally together over at hunters sports picks dot com website, right? Oh, man. Lowered the prices here from March madness package can check that out one hundred sports fix dot com. Also, doing totals only special total, certainly my specialty. And I think everybody knows that listen to your I'm going to do two hundred ninety nine bucks for all my totals the rest of the season mentioned banged the book. 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I will be a little bit more detailed about that. The next time I record, which will either be later this week or early next week I promise that you only get solo tie for a very short amount of time, but my whirlwind claw office creation tour continues. That's what I will say so. It's very kind of you to say that and I'm actually I. I am excited for this show. Not because it's my final show in this specific cloth is on the west coast, but because I feel like, even though a cough is a reality for me I, feel like this show specifically means that we get to enter into yet. Another new reality as we discuss a topic for this coming fall, and beyond season did ever play the sims tie and played. Yeah, are you kidding me? You did thus sims. You dated like a tie, Avatar. Oh, I did yeah. And did you get to explore sides of you? That weren't necessarily based in reality where you like. An axe wielding guitar. Yeah, yeah, I, mean I. Think Folks could gather from listening to. My Standard Fare of commentary here on the show that. May, be the the dark side is not necessarily what it is. Yeah. I explored as youth so. In playing video game. Sure we went there. You are you're throwing game at virtual ladies I was yeah, that's what I'm hearing. Okay? Yeah, so I, think we get to explore that side of you specifically on today's show and I'm quite excited to do so because I came up with at least part of the title and concept for this. You did a lot of the Legwork, so thank you but I. AM proud to say that it was for my brain from which Bob Bangers only erupted, so I apologize and or take credit. Let's get into news though before we go any further. And we explained what. We have raw. WHOSE SAD breaking news! Yeah, I have to play it. I hate to play it but I have to play Dan. The Patriot League has announced. Its decision to suspend. It's fall season. Actually cancel its fall season. They have no plans at least as of yet to turn that into a spring season. They said that they will quote. Consider it. It is just the latest domino to fall in this whacky wild world of college football that we currently find ourselves. In of course, it was the Ivy League I making the announcement than we saw subsequent announcements from the Big Ten and PAC twelve to play a conference only season. As it stands now. It seems that they're going to try to do that in the fall. We'll see if that's something. They're able to achieve or not. Still Awaiting Word from the ACC the SEC and the big twelve at sounds, if they they feel like they have more time to make that decision, so we're obviously waiting with baited breath to find out where they come down on things, but the Patriot league at least as for now is not gonNA play in the fall may consider doing something in the spring, Dan. Would you go as far as Sang Dunn's Oh. Yeah this was. This was a specific bummer to us. Obviously, because we celebrate and cherish all things Patriot League I was going to start trying to remember rivers and lakes from the mighty lobby blot. To the percolating blabbity Blah but I'm just GONNA say it. It does genuinely bum me out because one of the things that we like to celebrate on the show, it's not even just specifically the Patriot league, but it's all college football. It's sort of finding you know. Perhaps some nuggets from smaller team smaller leagues that are exciting that it's just not power five. You know obviously there are a number of teams to get through, but the Patriot league felt like it was hours and. You know if they're still a power, five centric and of Pseudo G. Five power five league. That's that's our season, not league. That's great. That's that's something to celebrate, but not having FCS programs. FCS programs like colgate from the last two years ago, that made a nice run into the playoffs and represented their league really well. It's a bummer that those stories are not going to pop up especially in December so. Were Sad I'll? I'll speak for you I think and saying that we're sad. There's no Patriot legal out of Patriot League fans Chard are pretty bummed. There's no Lehigh Lafayette for the first time in one hundred and fifty, some odd years fifty five for easy. And I don't know if you saw black. Smoke emerged from the as Bethlehem P.. A. Based the the League office. Yeah, Oh, yeah, now it's. It's in Center Valley Pennsylvania to be I. Don't know if there was. A. Sadness that you could feel a cloud of sadness over the area, but I'm bummed out it. It sucks. Elsewhere in college football. We have news that JT Daniels. He Sung waiver to play immediately. At Georgia, that waiver has been granted. You may recall J. Daniels. Burst onto the scene as Starting quarterback, he left after a knee injury, and now by virtue of this being. Accepted by the NC Double A. He has three years of eligibility left. It does come with a pretty big caveat, though knowing where we're at in college football, what exactly does immediate eligibility mean to you? Incomes I think a more operative question will clearly see where the SEC decided to go with its season, but. The notably if we just keep it within the college football world here. He is expected to contend for that starting role with one Jamie Newman who comes over as a Grad transfer from wake? Forest's so much I. think remains to be seen on this front where Daniels fits into the equation, not just in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, but certainly beyond it some it. It's another able bodied quarterback, a very good one at that that Kirby Smart Canal at into his arsenal. What what is your general impression about? Who are you more impressed by who'd you rather have? Your. Not taking a chance on, but sort of going in pseudo blind with considering their new transfer players, JT, Daniels or Jamie Newman just from what you have seen of each of them at wake, forest and USC, which I'm sure is limited in the case of both because of injury and games. You've seen because they haven't been necessarily consequential, but who strikes you as the higher ceiling guy given the surrounding talent in Athens. Well I'll answer this two ways everything I've read tells me that I should be more excited about Jamie Newman that he is maybe a big kid. He adds a dimension to that offense. That perhaps wasn't there before I. Think just by sheer number of snaps. The answer is probably Jamie Newman, but I am excited to see more of JT. Daniela's just because unfortunately, his his first season was cut pretty short. I have no idea what to think I watched a couple of full Jamie Newman Games, and saw some really good, some kind of bad some kind of ugly and I. Don't know how much of that is system. I mean Dave Clawson. The offense is pretty efficient. Late at in wake forest wake forest. The JT Daniels thing has certain point I love that phrase so much love that preamble. The injury concerns are I, think legitimate. Some guys just get roughed up and just have bad injury. Luck throughout their careers. We've seen it time and time again. The Jamie Newman thing. It almost feels like people considering how long the college football offseason is, and my goodness could be this time around. It gives people time to talk themselves into situations, and that's something else that I worry about what Jamie Newman where he might just be. Fine, but because people are saying well, new offensive coordinators may differ. I'll look at the receiving talent. That's retirement. I'll look at the field position. They'll be put in because the Defense Jamie Newman is just. He's the best quarterback in the SEC I'm calling it now and people just in successive weeks. Talk themselves into situations over talent, and so I'm not sure what to think. I suppose. The arm talent rests with JT Daniels but. If availability is the best ability a yeah. I'M GONNA go Jamie Newman I think. Okay, what else do we got well funny? You would ask. ALWA- state's athletic director. Is Detailing significant financial ramifications of there being no college football season. I'm going to read this verbatim. This one comes from a Yahoo sports article. In a letter to the Iowa state community, athletic director Jamie Pollard detailed the realities that athletic departments around the country are facing amid the corona virus pandemic. In expressing why it is vital to attempt to play college football in the fall, Pollard revealed the financial hit Iowa. State both the Athletic Department and university itself will take if there are no false sports. Twenty Twenty Wrath department quote would incur approximately forty million dollars. In unfunded expenses in the next six months and quote. While universities revenue loss for the Educational Fund for the Twenty Twenty one fiscal year. Quote is more than forty one million dollars in quote. Pollard said on top of that Pollard said the total revenue losses in costs at Iowa state quote since the start of the COVID, nineteen pandemic through August, twenty, third twenty, twenty are estimated to be. An additional seventy, three million and quote so. Long Story Short here This isn't any thing that we didn't expect. We knew that there will be a lot of institutions taking a hit, but I think when you see the numbers imprinted obviously resonates on on a different level I know I speak for you when I say that we. Obviously would love there to be football, but we would for there to be healthy football conducted in a manner that's responsible that cares for the safety of the players. This is the other side of it, though and if you follow college football. If you follow our show, you know we do our best to follow the money. If you're wondering. Why is there such a groundswell of support still for playing a college football season in the fall, despite the fact that it feels like it may not be the best decision. Yeah here, numbers like seventy three million dollars in that could have something to do with it. Forty million dollars, whatever it is a lot of Zeros Dan, and it is going to hit a lot of these institutions on the Chin isn't. Oh for sure is I feel bad probably first and foremost for I suppose. You know seventeen eighteen year olds who are going to school specifically to play a sport and so much of playing that sport is tied into their identity and their friendships, and their their time. Really I, also you know you feel for you, know the local businesses that are going to be hit pretty hard you. You're talking about all the potential and auxiliary situations. restaurants, bars parking lots. You know everything that relies on a pretty big crowd for six or seven Saturdays every fall on the flip side. There is a certain amount of magnifying glass on how much football pays for everything and everything relies on football i. don't know if you ever see that. Sometimes are random explosions in New York City that just happened underground or happened in the middle of a building, and then you find out that like Oh. There was an illegal gas hookup. Seventeen different units were all hooked up to the same gas main fully illegally and. There's no actual correct way to respond to a story like this beyond. Diversifying can be good, and if we are as a college football universe reliant so heavily on this one thing happening and not necessarily prepared for a pandemic, because nobody can be prepared in any sort of you know rightful way for a pandemic, but. If you are putting all of your eggs into a single basket for so many people in any situation. You're risking a pretty big backdraft and so. I feel for them. I feel for Iowa state. I feel school. I feel for FCS. Schools that are going to be taking hits without getting those payout games at fun so much. But at the same time. I. College football may have gotten too big. It may have gotten too big, and this is what happens sometimes, we you know if we're going to get real big picture. We saw it in two thousand, eight with banks and his college football too big to fail. Are we going to figure out? We're going to see schools dipping into rainy day funds to figure out how to bail college football. I don't know I don't know but at this point. That's the sort of language were hearing from people as relates to how college football is responsible for rising all boats, the tide of college football is now responsible for rising so much more than even we could have fathomed it's. It's interesting. It's not the only industry that is facing a reckoning about how to organize and how to figure out finances, but. It's I think the business of college football in. Two years three years, four years might look very very different. I have recently learned what the term force. Majeure means. NBA, college football. Yeah, yeah, as it relates to being unable due to unforeseen circumstances to fulfil contract. Language like that and some of these non conference matchups that. Yeah. You see bubbling up in the news so again. Something to keep our eyes on, you know we will two other quick ones. Here Texas is going to keep the eyes of Texas as it's almo Mater, but will rename the field after former heisman trophy winners Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell, those changes are in response to a request by several athletes a few weeks back after the death of George Floyd We're going to link up that article out. Encourage everyone to go out there and read the statement verbatim. They are going to make some changes. Tom Herman came out and said he was very proud of his student. Athletes for moving things forward. I mean anytime you align your program more with Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell feels like a win, although you should go out and read about who Joe Jamal, I guess was the crazy successful attorney and I guess he could be interpreted as both crazy and successful. From Houston I believe who was a billionaire who donated a ton of money to Texas, but yeah I Campbell Williams Williams. Campbell failed. It just has views rights ring to it if you. Will Tidbit here I've got. Shadow standards you know that name? I do now. I didn't before sixteen hours ago. I don't know if you can see in our shared google. DOC here that I phonetically spelled out. Because I did not want to go global tomato on this kids first name. Sanders. He is the son of Dion Sanders. He has officially committed to. Florida Atlantic Dan The owl woo. Yeah Boca! He is the highest profile commit for new coach, Willie Taggart. He is six two. He is two hundred pounds. He is the number eight pro style pocket passer. In the class and the forty first overall prospect so good signing for coach Taggers I if he truly is and I have no reason to believe. He isn't a blue chip quarterback and a top ten. What you say pocket passer. I don't think he's GonNa end up at FAU. Opinion that's all I got for news Dan anything else for you. I'm seeing class of twenty twenty one Cedar Hill. Texas Texas area. Looking at his offers I don't know if they were compatible offers but. Seeing Alabama hard to believe. He shows fau over Alabama. Asu Baylor claims twenty-five five offers. One of his top five offers is cornell okay. Shout out to the big red. yeah, I. I have no reason we won't FAU but. Hope. Hope it all works out for him. All right as for the content of this show. Yes, we're. We're steered into the whole conference. Only scheduling bit because. I think if you follow college football, follow the show. You clearly know that. This is something that that's going to happen like the writing is on the walls. If your favorite conference didn't announce it yet, chances are just by the precedent set by the big ten by the precedent set and then followed up upon I. The PAC twelve. We can see where this is going. All the conferences before long are probably going to announce. Conference only slates, so we started thinking. Strength Schedule Right strength schedule is kind of like a big deal in our world, we talked about it frequently on pretty much every show during the fall. Certainly as we get into things like who is going to qualify for the play-off, how to teams rank against one? Another strength is a very big talking point in the world of college football that will seemingly take on new meaning Dan as we enter into this conference only world. I don't know if I had in mind. I came up with the number five because the potential of having five games in the fall, perhaps starting in October, and ever team taking the week between games so by week separating. Each week to give teams time to figure out health issues that that could bubble up and then five more late winter early spring. Almost like what breaking bad sopranos. I. Think Battle Star Galactica. Yeah, a lot of shows have done when they say okay well. I know are normally are seasons are ten episodes, but it's the final season and we wanted do fourteen. Let's do seven starting in the fall and seven starting late spring, something like that and the Hank on the toilet on breaking bad of came to mind for me when thinking about how because it always does tie. It always you watched breaking bad right. Of course hank on the toilet. Okay, sure hang on. The toilet, broke up the first and second part of the final season of breaking bad so. That's how I'm sort of thinking of things. As a possibility because if you listen to conference commissioners, if you listen to reporters speaking to a lot of people, I mean our friend. Nicole our back. rostelecom spoken to a number of administrators Pete family has been very active in this space that the thing that the common refrain is, it's all on the table. Murray it's we've got a contingency for everything. It's all on the table and also if you hear if you were able to listen to the audio of all these conference commissioners and high ranking people. Everything they said probably started with. Just that sound that's. What probably started out every single answer given to a reporter about where things stand now so. Because, everything is on the table. WE'RE GONNA go ahead and assume it contains are bangers only plan which is? We think we looked at power five schools, not that we hold anything against G. Five schools, but you know the G.. Five situation is more up in the air right now given that we don't know what's happening with power five scheduling across different conferences and non conferences, so we'll see there are certainly bangers only teams on the G. Five level, but for this exercise I don't think we've highlighted how bonkers it would be if we had an all gas, no break season. Where in this hypothetical world? What is the team is? What does that mean? All Gas, no breaks. What does that mean? There's no weeks off. There's no we have a down out Maryland this week, oh. We have an Arkansas team. That's clearly quit Oh. We have this non conference game that are starters won't be in past the middle of the second quarter that there is no chance to bill depth. There is no chance to exhale where I'm just going to take a team at random here. Okay, you ready Yup. Let's go just turned up Penn state if Penn state season were exclusively exclusively. At Michigan, Iowa Ohio State at Nebraska and Michigan State say. You don't have a chance to breathe. If you're a penn state fan, it's it's. It's enough already in a regular college football season to have panic about this linebacker now working out or these injuries on the offensive line or this coach doesn't know how to call a game on third down the fact that there is no chance to say all right. Let's get into a rhythm. We'd have a down week or whatever. How bonkers? That would be especially if we were alternating Saturdays where you know Penn, state's only playing once every two weeks, and we have nothing but time to panic about everything. You know I mean saying Penn State Fan say in this case are. Minnesota fans are Oklahoma. State fans where it's just Oklahoma state would be bedlam on the road at Baylor Texas Kansas State on the road and Iowa state, and that's just going to define an entire year of Oklahoma state. Football's bangers only man bangers only matters crazy entertainment. I am interested in Lsu I'm interested in how they follow things up. After having such incredibly successful year seems I'm interested in Lsu. Do they have a five part. Bangers only schedule where I can say who are the best or most intriguing five games that lay in front of the Tigers and how does that compare to me being interested in the main team and the five best most intriguing teams on their schedule? So you know you could say you. South Carolina having Florida on the Road Texas A, and M. Georgia Lsu on the road in Tennessee. Those are that's kind of if we if those were the five South Carolina Games that. We got to see this fall. That's pretty interesting. except I don't care that much right now. In terms of intrigue, as relates to other teams in their conference about South, Carolina, okay, both sides of things, so you need an interesting team with a bang. Sleep 'cause because good games go both ways right? Sure so okay what we've done what we did is we went through quite literally every power five team and pulled out their top five games. We also pulled out some of the conference game conference. Excuse me, yeah! We also pulled out some of the games that they are missing. So you mentioned Lsu Lsu's interesting, and maybe we can start with them as as an exercise here. At Florida home, against, Bama at Auburn An, and then that fifth game. I, you know maybe Mississippi State. Maybe there isn't quite a high profile fifth game that rises to the level of those other four. I would love to see. Mississippi state LSU K J Castillo throwing into a pretty dangerous lsu secondary. Getting Sec Arid Dallas I. Mean it's at Lsu right. We're getting SEC arid in in Tiger Stadium I. think that's that. That has banger potential. I think in normal circumstances again if we had the whole slate of games here, the fifth game or maybe like the third game I don't know would be Texas. That game that they were slated to play early on in the year. That's not a in this exercise anyway, not going to happen so of those five games Lsu I. Think's a pretty strong contender for Banger of the SEC west. The caveat is that all of the teams in the SEC west I think also fall into that category, so let's take that saw games fall under the banner umbrella I'm just saying when he Arkansas Games. All Right? Let me offer a caveat. LS So bam also. We gotta get lsu Ole Miss. I think the pseudo rivalry. Bama. Auburn and am are the four teams that I would say are very similar in the in this respect. Yeah and Lsu is definitely interesting. Let me, let me posit another. Possibility here. Okay I'm interested in Auburn. Not Completely Auburn goes on the road at Georgia. They've got am and Lsu at home. They go on the road at Bama for the. Iron Bowl. And then they're on the road against the team. Mike Mississippi State. That's a that's a hell. Of! An Se schedule right. They're going on the road against Georgia. They're also missing out on a UNC game, which I think in normal circumstances would have been a lot of fun. See Sam. How now yeah? But I'm just I'm always interested in Auburn. Because Auburn always feels to me like they've. They've got enough talent to go either way and we see every other year is gus. Malzahn getting fired? We don't know he never does so looking at a state like this a five-game slate if auburn could go like four and one through that slate that will be held and accomplish I don't think that happens, but as five game slates go especially in the SEC west where they're all pretty tough. That one's very interesting to me. What gets you drip in about Auburn though? The Bow Knicks thing. The Ball Nixon what's in what sense that you think he's going to explode. In that I thought he was better than he was all of last year. And now all I've read about this off season is how can bonex take his game to the next level? And I think I'm just a sucker for the big name. Freshman quarterback, especially in the case of Bo Knicks where he's like a legacy, and he comes in with a lot of fanfare. Through the early part of his season last year it. He had some of those moments that I like to latch onto. So I'm holding out. Hope that he's better than we saw as a true freshman. Chad Morris and You know with some of these big games on the schedule it's it's particularly appealing. We know that they've always got a lot of talent on the lines. And we've seen crazy things from Gus Malzahn Auburn team. You Have Mississippi state here as a as a Banger team which I understand, but you don't have ole miss. I don't know if you have them anywhere in terms of what you consider to be banger or, worthy. Is there. A reason ole miss. Lane Kiffin. A DJ Durkan co- coordinated defense Some returning talent on Defense Jerry, neely, on offense to sports star playing baseball. Janis Plumlee, promising with the legs lane, kiffin familiar with the SEC west goes way back with coach o! Obviously Alabama I think they're ceiling this year and I think Mississippi state should have a good offense, but they're ceiling in terms of narrative and intrigue. Might be a little bit higher for me while so here's what we're looking at with Ole Miss. We've got an auburn game. LSU, game on the road. And an Alabama game at home back to back to back. Right Auburn At lsu home against Obama. And for their top fiber at vaught hemingway I'm seeing Bama, Florida and the egg bowl all hypothetically bangers only guess no breaks. We've got, Florida. We've gotta game at A. M.. And then, of course, we've got the egg bowl so. I would put. Up for over an That is a pre meaty slate right there. I gotta say. I. Don't think you can have any Banger Rolodex without the biggest rivalry game of that specific team so I'm GonNa go with you I'll go ole. Miss There in the SEC I'm just saying Ole miss even just as a banger opponent. Yeah, but they're interesting, aren't they? They've got a lot of inch there and as you compare them to some teams in the SEC east. A highlighted South Carolina because the schedule is a murderer's row, but is South Carolina interesting? That's that's the operative question. That was something that you said at the top at Florida home against am and Georgia on the road against Lsu and then a home game against Texas. They miss out on that Clemson game again. If. We're thinking of in terms of this thought exercise. That's a tough schedule. Are they more interesting though than a team like? Georgia or Florida Georgia's sodomy Georgia to me is the the Banger only all gas, no break schedule here because I, at least I have the narrative of Georgia trying to go to Columbia and get revenge for a loss from last season losing to South Carolina the way that they did and how sloppy they played. Florida with you know Florida's on the road in Knoxville Florida South Carolina as interesting to me. Florida Ole Miss There's something there I guess. You, know Florida George obviously neutral site, but Yeah, I think it's Georgia. I think just in terms of a slate of bangers. Anywhere else. I'm intrigued by Tennessee for sure, but finding you know maybe a fourth and fifth banger is not exactly a an easy task. I think it's got to be Georgia and I liked the storyline too because. You know we've been talking a lot. About what do they do a quarterback and there's some turnover there new offense. What's that GONNA look like? How will Jamie Newman or JT DANIELS FIT in? There are going to be new faces on Georgia's start for sure and they're interesting because they are trying to take that that next step in their progression, I'm running back up. So at Bama Home Against Auburn and Florida at South, Carolina home against. Tennessee. I'm Florida's neutral saying Jacksonville neutral site. Sorry. Miss out on the Georgia, tech and UVA Games as well, which would have been really. AC so that. Yeah that it sucks to lose out on a rivalry game for clean old fashioned hate there but nonetheless. I think that's a good way to look at bangers. Only I mean if you had to rank are their secret intrigue teams for you. We talked about the Mississippi schools I'm just GONNA give you a couple pairings, okay? What not forget the the five bangers, the four bangers. Whatever Missouri Kentucky. Just individually. Missouri. Season are you more interested in. I think I am probably a little bit more interested in Mizzou. To. Yeah. New Coach New quarterback. Coach and quarterback. Now I think, does it? But I must say I have come around on Kentucky. Around Kentucky and Want slight. The Kentucky Fan base once was enough for me. Let's move to the big ten. Okay, okay as you look at your slate of what? Fourteen teams here twelve I guess. Get confused. How many how many bangers only are we looking at here? I'm not seeing a ton. I'm not seeing a ton just because. I don't know how interested I am in Indiana. As a full drop, everything gotTa Watch the hoosiers. They're good. They're fine they. They could certainly win eight wins this year. when games I think. I will go. Man I wish, I cared about Nebraska more because that the the slate of bangers is interesting. especially I think it's the bath half back half of their schedule, right? That's why it's interesting. Okay, that's why it's interesting now. Look again. We're living in in a in a post Cova world, their approve a present Cova world whatever you want to describe it as a pandemic, and you know that I was on the record, saying Nebraska could start seven hundred and finish seven at five. Here's what they're looking at back after schedule. Yeah, at Ohio. State Penn State at home at Iowa home against Wisconsin home against Minnesota, that's a hell of asleep to draw both Ohio state and Penn state from the East is really bad luck, really bad luck. Nebraska's interesting because they've got a dynamic quarterback. At least we're told the dynamic quarterback when he plays, he's healthy and Adrian Martinez Lot of fun. I think Moody's downgraded the word dynamic to something a little bit less after. After last year hurts, but yeah, I, when you start looking back two years anytime I see the phrase if he regain his form from not last year, but a year before that that's when I start worrying. There's a Scott Frost element to this coming back home, trying to rebuild his Alma Mater. You know like there's a lot of intrigue their that Nebraska I-. I- latch onto so I think for me. They're the team here if you combine the the plotline with the schedule. They're the one that I've got highlighted at least in the big ten west. Spoken like somebody who does not remember the experience of watching Nebraska football last year. Spoken like a man who has experienced forty three months of life since Nebraska last played football like we all have I guess my answer is if I had to select team that combines both the intrigue about them and a slate of bangers. My answer is probably Minnesota. All right just because of the offense because they're on the road against Wisconsin for the acts there on the road against Michigan, so it's it's an interesting Another other one against Michigan State Michigan Michigan State on the other side Iowa. They get at home in trying to. Get revenge against the hawkeyes sell I think Minnesota comes as close just because of the combination of quarterback and road slate to me. That's interesting, but. It's a the. Not at not big B. One g list of Bangers for me. I will isn't interesting to me. But they do get Minnesota. Ohio state and Penn State on the road, which is really yeah. No, they're one of the road. Dogs of this for sure and interestingly enough with the cancellation of the non conference slate. They can't play Iowa state. which many of pointed out on twitter, the ultimate marketplace of ideas. Not, always good ones but that why is it not safe for them to like travel across the state to play? O Stay I! Don't have an answer for it, but now it's a logistics thing. Yeah, that's. Vague as I can be yeah, in the East I think the answer. It's gotta be Michigan. You know I'm I'm always interested in Ohio state and Penn State and you know I've got a sauce spot for Indiana. Michigan. State's got a new coach. Right, but man games on the road. Michigan's got a lot of turnover. They've got that just constant turnabout where things headed under Jim Harbaugh They've got a road game against Ohio state. which we know is going to be headliner. Home game against past eight. They also play Wisconsin. They're on the road at Minnesota. And frankly for your fifth Banger, you could pick either Indiana a road tilt against Michigan State or maybe throw purdue in there. I don't know Oh go the rivalry game tie. Come on Michigan, state. Going a little brother of course I don't know who the little brother is, but yeah I'm I'm ready for it at Ohio State Penn State. Wisconsin at Minnesota at Michigan State so three. Interesting Road Games there. They do miss out on the road till week. One against Washington that we talked about a couple of times Lou Spin Road Dog, yeah yeah we, we talk about that one a little bit, but that game not going to be happening as both now have officially canceled their non-conference slates Tell me I'm wrong I think. Michigan's got a lot of intrigue and I think the schedule definitely makes it. Makes it trial by fire for them. That is not an easy slate of five games. Man. I duNno in year thirty seven of the Jim Harbaugh Baya. I think we have to limit our annual summer Michigan Intrigue. Getting the Lada new faces same season with Michigan and I pencil on a loss in Columbus. Probably either Minnesota Wisconsin coming after last year and the way they sort of look listless against the badgers whereas just. Ham Michigan's nine and three ten to see I. Refer to this as season six of twenty four. Okay, you know. I was into that series. Right? Twenty couldn't tell you which what happens season six. And ads listen. I watched one year. That's part of the point because who were really into twenty four. Hung with it through about season six, but it was at that point where you started to realize hey! This is all kind of the same, isn't it? Jack, Bauer a yeah everything they tried to do started to feel the same and so season six for me was was an ultimate point where it it started to run together. Feel the same in every. Every season thereafter lost a little bit of the lustre. So was Jim, Harbaugh, torturing college football fans just to get information out of the terrorists. Is that I. Don't try to figure out the connection. What was the name of the C. T.? Way I was trying to pull back Jack Bauer for one last. He's the only guy one last job I don't know Jim Harbaugh. Is the only guy we've gotten to that point? Where we have to start wondering I am I. Am Not Ready to I'm not maybe I'm in season five, but not six. Okay. Yeah I can I tell you the secret intrigue in the East my secret intrigue in the East is Rutgers. Okay, go on! Not because I feel like they're going to do anything crazy exciting, but I feel like they could have a wrench season. Where they're just, they're losing a lot of games twenty eight to thirteen, but it's fourteen thirteen at the half like ooh. Laurentian a five game all gas. No break season here perhaps. With the number of transfers with what I believe to be a better coaching staff with the weirdness. That's whatever happens this next college football season whenever it happens. I feel like rutgers can be a wrench you position. A wrench position. Dirty Okay I. Forget the name of the character from dodgeball. Dodge a dodge wrens. You can draw dodgeball. Yeah, there's. Yeah. Yeah, about piscataway. ruckers that I'm not feeling the magic I'm not thinking Pixie. Dust from the from the scarlet knights, seeing wrench fest, two, twenty, twenty or twenty, twenty one has seen pandemonium. Before in piscataway. Right you're saying. Okay. I had trouble with the big twelve. Because Hula hand by the way, Oh right, thank you, make you. Heaven Forbid. We forget that. I had trouble with the with the big twelve because. It's they all play each other. Fewer options, fewer options and I felt like we really had to wait pretty heavily. Which of these teams we were most interested in in. It's one hundred twenty season and less so with the schedule. Because again it's it's all sort of the same. Anyone, jump out to you I. I always veer towards Texas and I. Don't like the way I feel about that, but. Right Texas to me is where I always go naturally here just in terms of intrigue in terms of. Is Your Tom. Herman can build them up or they're gonNA. Plug some of their gaps like. I. Don't know where. How do you come down on on the big twelve year? Oklahoma Baylor K. state I'm GonNa tell you why those three teams traveled to Ames Iowa. And I just. That's that's Banger. Capital city tie We've got Oklahoma on the road against TCU, whatever Fort Worth is fine, but Iowa state as host Oklahoma and that just it seems to be spicy every season tie so you sign me up for Iowa state. Oh you wherever it is we have. What I said, Kay State Yeah K. State is a road dog, and that includes aims trip, so that's Baylor on the Road Oklahoma on the Road Iowa stayed on the road for Kansas State team that some changes on defense, but some continuity on offense with skill in quarterback. It's a new look, offensive line, but. Can I don't know what an advanced wrench would be, but Kansas state. Has that potential even as a road dog out of them? That I would agree with that. Baylor with a new coach. On the road in Norman on the road in Austin and on the road in aims at tough. It's weird, but returned quarterback interesting hires on both sides of the ball coordinator. Wise I think Baylor is is all gas. No breaks and they don't have to play. What is it in carnage war current? No, so there is there. Is that degree of Baylor starting off on the same foot after so many years and I know this is an older narrative, but at so many years of just ignoring Baylor in September, there a big beneficiary of just into it as everybody else gets into it, so they're Baylor Banger I'm there? I'm either Texas or Baylor. And I'd like to retract Baylor Bangers. Officially retract that in all seriousness I have officially retracted IT A. Either on the tech side of the coin here for all the usual reasons. Interested in Texas Outta, here or Baylor or Baylor you know the new coach. Ash What happens without Matt Rule? how does Dave Randall as a coach? For a while to see what Dave Aranda could do as as the CEO of his own program. To the coach of Baylor. Really excited for kids. Really over play. He's Lego Batman. It's a really good crash like what I'm seeing out there. Decker one time God. That's to recruit. Locker Room That might be the reason. Baylor eccentric because of his Voice Co.. I really I'm GonNa Miss David Voice that only recently discovered if we don't have a season this fall. Be Ready I had no idea that was the thing. Oh Yeah. Man I'm going to have a lot of friends that aren't we? Yeah? Let's go to the PAC twelve if we could okay. Washington for me, is the. Is The answer and here's why road dogs baby. Yeah, all road games all the time. Yeah, new coach! Got Some. That not playing at Michigan game. Great. On the Road Oregon at Utah at CAL AT USC and As bangers, only schedules go. That was the only one that I could find. There may be others. The only one that I could find were maybe the best five games on the schedule are all on the road. I think for Washington we have to say Vegas Vegas bubble. They might get the treat of a Vegas bubble if they don't get to play a home game all fall along. We have to say a neutral site Washington and that that feels like the right place. They get to play their games. At Sam Boyd Stadium or as I called it Gorman Bishop hill for t tough field Organs got to go to Vegas SC to vegas direct flights from from L., A. Definitely not from Spokane area Utah Cal Yeah you can get to Vegas, you Washington players get better accommodations. They all get condos at the whatever resort and that's the concession I think for for the road. Dogs that are Washington Yeah. Let me ask you a question about Oregon could very quickly. Yeah do do you have a little less disdain for the corona virus? Because it also means the cancellation of that North Dakota State Game I'd let him relieved. That Oregon doesn't play trae Lance and the Bison of North Dakota state correct. Yeah I mean it's it's lose. Lose you beat up on North. DAKOTA STATE! You're like well. There are good FCS, team, but yeah, obviously Oregon, going to beat them and if you lose to them. You just you laughed at. Why did they schedule them right right so? It would've. It would've been nice as a football fan to see what exactly North Dakota state could do. Against a top ten team in the country that would have been really nice I'm disappointed because I've seen a good amount of attention on trae lance. Why don't even think threw an interception as a freshman last year for the Bison to see what he could do in a again? We're talking alternate universes here, a rock and autzen stadium. That's a bummer to me the fact that it was. A crazy look ahead game with Ohio state coming into to odds and the following week. Kind of a relief. Yeah I say you know of of all the conferences that I saw there. There are some high profile games here. We'll talk about some of the Games that teams in the ACC are missing out on, but you know, and certainly no disrespect teams like Wisconsin who. Had Notre Dame had APP. State no disrespect to a team like a South Carolina, that might not get a chance to play its in state, rival and Clemson. which you know falls into that Iowa state category, but. The PAC twelve is if you have if you have five games of a team to watch. Do you want to enter the cone zone? Is that somewhere? You really want to be quarantine this fall. Cone Zone be honest. I don't know I to me. No, no I don't really okay. I I was just where I'm going with. This is the PAC twelve is really missing out on some non. Conference Games Oh yeah! S. US's not going to play or Notre Dame Washington. We already mentioned Michigan. Or again as a college football fan, yeah, I'm interested in North Dakota, state and. Ohio state game as well so a lot of artillery. There you, Byu. The Holy War might not happen so. Yeah a lot of intrigue there. I'm just not happening tie, yeah! I'm searching for a team that I think rises to that Washington level and I don't really find it here. I guess maybe USC because they've gotTa say USC Nice Yeah They. They're Utah on the Road Oregon on the road. Either Stanford or a home game against cal? That's you know. Interesting but for me, it still Washington. Let me, offer you this Arizona. State is at USC at Wazoo cal at home at Oregon in Utah. I'm intrigued by J. Daniels. The way as who finished their season last year, even though I was somewhat inconsistent, he rose to the occasion against Oregon. and to see him against some teams going through some defensive changes, while Sue's certainly struggled last year now starts over again on defense hopefully I think they hired Wyoming's defensive coordinator. Oregon's can have a better defense this year than they did last year. And hopefully they don't get torched by Asu wide receivers here in Oregon Fan you tie. A lot of good back and forth history there. I think Asu for sure has bangers. Old is cat. We're just cal rank on the on the Banger Sky Have Cal here to Utah Oregon. Washington all at home. And then traveling to SC traveling to asu yeah. CASTLEFORD Arbor's yeah. I'm always goo. Goo Garbage you that we do lose the cheese at bowl rematch against sh I now I know we're sitting here. Bemoaning all of these supposedly bigger rivalry games, but she's about to off the table. Move over the A C final congress here then I'll mention Notre Dame quick because we have to contractually. I am. So You know the the Clemson storyline is interesting to me. It's interesting on a number of levels. I I don't know what's going to happen with this season I. Don't know which direction things go none of us do angers excluded? Sorry, continue but. Trevor, Lawrence and what he does this season. Me As something that could be a very interesting. Talking Point will will there be upside for several. Ernst even put himself out there. I think he is in that. In that rare stratosphere. And the Twenty Twenty College football season. It's him just in fields could be guys like Tuba. Hubbard he guys who seem like they are surefire top round draft picks. Who May Soul? Yeah, yeah may consider. What this means to them in their careers moving forward. CLEMSON's still has some interesting games on the schedule. There's Louisville game. There's road tilt against. Notre Dame road tilt against Florida state. Is a Syracuse game which has given them trouble in the past, and then there's wake forest game, which just threw in there because I needed a fifth but. Talk yourself into more than one and a half bangers on clemson schedule. Louisville gets a half notre, Dame's Banger on the retard I mean the Florida. The Florida state game is traditionally very interesting, but. It's not lost on me that they're essentially starting over with Mike Norville. Yeah Clemson's Banger free since eighty three to me. That's how I'm reading. The Games here that I have highlighted are at Clemson. Home Against North Carolina Home Against Miami Home Against Louisville at Virginia Tech. They. Miss out on a Georgia game, but I'm talking about Uva Dan in the coastal. That's a pretty good slate of bangers. As it goes in the ACC and it was the best slate. Of teams that I could find. Louisville is also in that equation. Luvell I am interested in them, because of Mikhail Cunningham Louisville I, think has the best case just because of what we hope Louisville to grow into as a hopefully sooner rather than later challenger to Clemson even though talent wise. They're pretty far off. When you have a quarterback when you have a coach that seems to be building things the correct way that there is hope with level. At clemson home against both Florida State and Virginia Tech on the road at Uva on the road at that's pretty good slate. A miss out on. Yeah, tied rivalry. Know States TVD, but a lot of these teams are teams. Louisville should be done should beat with some comforts if they are indeed taking that next step. That's intrigued. That's Banger. Virginia Tech. Missing out on Penn State's kind of a bomber. Florida state in particular misses out on non cons against West Virginia Boise and Florida good for Florida state though. Off. Yeah, she's good for them and Miami misses out on a road trip to East Lansing. How would you settle things? How would I settle things? Yeah, how would you settle things if you have a bunch of five and four and one's maybe a scrappy three and two who had to crazy tough. Road Games very tight loss perhaps. It's without the data of twelve games where we're seeing how in team a team improves over three four months were seeing games with a week separating each game week off separating each game. Do, you say well Ohio stages the national champ. They look the best and you just awarding it. Are you fielding a neutral site? Low Key national championship somewhere? I think it's Barry Alvarez on twitch twenty four seven. Let's go out. Let's stay former ad former standing coach. With only five games. Do you take three weeks off and do a sweet sixteen tournament and some sort of Bubble Ahmen? Can this be our next show. Sure so how did decide a five game season using either games or not games to decide things? This is the show we're doing next Wednesday. Where's the bubble how forces we're. Doing, next. This is a great idea. I'M GONNA. Put It on our sheet right now. This is what we're doing. What separates foreign teams? What criteria five zero teams? Are you automatically out if you lose twice? Ramon universes what we're doing, so it's what it is. It's double elimination. I think so I think it has to be double elimination. are, we saying flex bracket could be an eleven team. Bracket was some weird by week action. I'm down at the flex baby alright. Mention bangers on I'll just mentioned. Notre Dame here very quickly. there is potential. That, they could pick up some free agent bangers. Because they are missing out on Wisconsin and Stanford and USC again. This is assuming the ACC will. Though that's available while I'm just wondering like, would they? Would they pick up a team like a Miami or UNC? L. E. HI Lee. Yeah, I mean. Everything's her things on the table they do play Clemson and Louisville at home. They got a road game against pit, which could be tricky but I'm curious if there would be a move. Try and pick up. Some action there if there are ACC teams that are left wanting additional football games. I also WANNA make mention to Byu and Byu. Fans that listen. They're in a real chartered spot here and. They've got game against Utah. which we mentioned Michigan State Arizona State and Minnesota, all of which are are seemingly canceled in this scenario so hopefully they're able to. if things proceed. Find some way to craft their own bangers only scheduled, but things looking a little rough for the kooks. Maybe why you puts on a secret mountain west hat and it's like baby baby baby baby I'm sorry I'm sorry. Hey, sh! All right how this is a weird show. Can I ask you one final question one final question? All right just because we're talking about you know a record setting or not record-setting, but a a one of a light once in a lifetime. said a five. And bangers only just of brings to mind some sort of radio hour in Tulsa. I don't know. Michael Jackson had five number. One hits on the album bad. Only one artists since then has had five number one hits. On a single album. Who has it got to be Lady Gaga. Katy Perry. Girl. Two thousand eight teenage dream. I've number one hits. I think it's teenage dream, et. firework California girls and I'm missing one right now. Is it hot and cold, or was that the previous album amiss missing one from that album, but she was the record tying. That on that album on teenage dream. BANGERS only. Man Okay that's I can't believe you got that. Right wheelhouse topic for me Katy Perry I actually I. Just didn't have enough time I did download the eight bit version of firework. Sites? Teenage dream. Ran The most successful number one single album. Of the of the modern era tie and you, you whiffed. Leave it there then okay should leave it. To my everlasting shame Friday night. Oh, thank you, okay, I am tie. He is Dan. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to subscribe to. The show got another one coming on Friday morning. Conversation with a good friend of the verbal yeah. Also, don't forget to give us five star review. 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312: Staring at Potatoes

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312: Staring at Potatoes

"Dig Out the Patriot League today. The long have you been sitting on McDonald's John McCain story thinking someday those will both come up in the same sentence in today is your day Ferdinand he's welcome listeners to five volts series three episode twelve. Mall. biking on Germy. We've decided tonight mcadoo do it do it? Even. You See arly filed to preppy Dole this by actual things, and we always forget the name I'm GonNa about no in the show notes. Remind US I think. You're gonna live in the moment. That we need to Gallo better improvisation. Fast. So Welcome to the show. Shall we have you have you been doing anything interesting recently first of all, I site. Stand doors lot. Alexander. Ventured out slightly into the world. But only very slightly. You know. Obviously, we're all trying to be responsible, and then you know California's set on Phya so we would treat to smoke everywhere and luckily we've not been. Personally affected this is a lot of smoke then lot of people lost houses sadly but. I was just starting to get into the potential idea of. Being a little bit more like social distancing seeing people love yesterday that. It looks like this frigging covert can potentially cause. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. And it completely killed my possible Mojo for going out and you know socially distant now I don't WanNa. See anyone that chronic fatigue syndrome sounds awful. Does not sound good. No, it was kinda barring. I'm way without. My parents were here this weekend. I we went into we went into town to shopping and phobe two thirds of the people that had no mosques piling. Up Yeah. And you facing very disappointing people you know try hard. But the show is not that difficult. The shops are doing a good job off You GotTa have a couple of people in the shop at once. Right I will tell you gathered in a big pile around the door and stay distances. So, shops trying but I think a lot of people walking round town not so. Are they requiring why you? Uh Act the ECON- going with Moscow 'cause here the that most businesses like we won't let you unless you go to Moscow yeah okay mandatory area. It's eight, which I'm the not legally obliged to a lot of shops running anyway. But also been from things. Big Supermarkets here in UK Oh tesco science precincts. What they've told, what those organizations have told us Staf is if someone comes in and they refused to wherever. Ma. Don't challenge them. All Ed. which Moscow. But if they say, no, I refuse on the way one of your muscles don't start a fight just let them do it. And I, I don't particular policy equally don't think the policy of star screaming match attempt have expelled from the premises. What you're supposed to do is not be the sort of person who would go into shop with our Moscow in the first place because he their folk a not signs breezes all and can we take a moment at this point in the show to shed a tear for all the reasonable women out that Cole Karen Jokes for all of those videos are people starting fistfights with people. Think of the Karens that reasonable Karen's anyway. So as they put a school where especially when you go into shops, people just just be sensible that ever use muscles because you sound like an idiot. No No. Don't do that and now. All right. So. What have we got on the Funny News, side You didn't you write something in here about the the Flight Sim thing did this excellent what happened? I'm so mugs, Affleck's. That if you've played it. Ms Ago more board other. If you played recently because he's now a startlingly accurate depiction of flying out more Poli the country, the Landau flying over. The last time? I played it I think. You know you will fly a box. I play Magenta lowndes. Looks like minecraft. I'd. The. Now it's really cold and part of the way they go unless of the. Mock tighter. So you can decide to fly over a particular. People Choice. Paulo they call us open, street map data. Which? I'm so they took a dump of the open straight by some point in the past all the to. Philly into guy and then, and then the game constructs sort of three Dave. Of the of the landscape based on the map data. Neck. Falls some some guy doing Edits on the accidentally toy hugged. Building in the centre of Melbourne. Australia. Instead of being site twenty, one floors tall. He acts that he talked about as being two hundred and twelve flows told. The difference. Thank correct. But presumably in the gap in between him Mike Tie Being corrected thoughts, marks took them by the streetlamp dies. Really. In pictures. Flying Associates are quite amused someone flying over Melbourne. I look perfectly ordinary three d city apart from one go count you and tower. Leading up to that. Touches the outer oil spirits exit. I thought it was awful. It was really the first pictures Hilarious well-thumbed secondly. I'm it's interesting the using open source data for this right? Yeah. Yeah. Well. I also We also our glorious. Show editor at its bad voltage Mary's. Mentioned passes a link to an article where apparently some people are using Google maps to fix this and they're taking some of the buildings from Google maps, which is kind of interesting. What was interesting because? The episode where people have always been a deadly equal go anywhere near any of their mouth data. If you even like look to Google, map stood Nisa took Bob in their lives. Yeah. Because they don't want to contaminate. I'm so are there quite a how they doing this? Maybe they're filling in the details at the box was flexibility directly or whatever may be good log GonNa complain about it or not. Being fixed so. One thing just because we've talked a lot about eggs recently in bad voltages in the. Shed with his it says local hero Leonard for found Murrayfield Stadium, which apparently Scotland's chasing capital. What is an ex chasing capital? What does that? Extent yeah so people. Movie failed. So Bumpy Stadium isn't it? Apparently this some kind of Jason going on. If you know what that means listeners please less know slack because we have no idea what the hell. I'm sorry the next one this is potentially really serious point, but I'm not bringing. Total. We're GONNA gloss over the series implications of it. Just law for the concept, which is at the FBI apparently the people have final these ring doorbells and then using them to spoil the play. Which? Laugh out loud patio more like the concept of and Freud I given. But I'm like well people keep it out. Also, think about the the Amazon package delivers as well. Just like throw on the correct. I. Think this is off the point of it. You know. I know people who have been by. The big belt interesting. Say Well, the she's like. We used to have one and our previous house and they worked reasonably well, I mean, honestly, the idea of I think is better than the reality for us like which really need it. That much like if someone knocks on the door, you just have a natural intuition to kind of run through and see them and we didn't have that many axe murderer knocking on our door I think if you live maybe in a Like in an inner city or like a place more of a risk of crime then you probably got more use out there. But where we live, we didn't have a lot of people knocking out during the first place. So we didn't really need some I. See I thought the purpose isn't really about me about crime. It's all it's been about if you'll out summa cum though you can still talk to them awhile. I mean you can do that. I basically never did that I've never seen anyone do that outside of commercial right. So I just using into Wiltshire criminals okay. Pretty pretty much. Yeah, and post hilarious videos. He's Riva's chuck in the bone China package. Dot He's he's the reasonable thing I'm. So the next. I'm again, this is father because again he's probably correspondent. As. As City Japan D'Amato Einstein is legally bound people walking down the street while looking at their smartphones. which I would just like to applaud behalf of bad voltage 'cause it's. It is. That's not the funny takeaway I took from the article though I did not know that Antwerp in Belgium in Washington. DC in the US, have created quote unquote phone lanes for restaurants to use on their phones. No. That's the fun part of the story. Has. Installed flickering lights and laser beams crossings hoping to get people's attention. Because being a crossing is not enough. All the. I'll be interested to Let's turn out of three personal therefore, completely comprehensive survey. Of, learning about posed, reading the newspapers at the five minutes, let's do a three. Six statistically significant is what? Have you walk down the street looking at smartphones. Yes. I'm quite sure. Yes. Many Times. Exactly. So. Poke Chrissy than anything else. Well, let me ask the photo on poll question. Have you ever walked into a lamppost? Something, it could be a smartphone, it could be a newspaper, it could be a book I doubt. Correction. Because it almost assuredly means I'm going to walk into something today so. Tempting. Fate. Never happened I've never fallen down amount whole world looking. Right, Jeremy, you're GONNA have to wear like a camera your head. It's GonNa be Jeremy Dot TV walking in. So. Yeah. That was great. Should we talk about the woman? Who saw Jesus face on a potato? And then eight. The worst thing about the states, a picture of this potato with Jesus face. And they've put a big red bring about a bit where Jesus faces. I call him say a toll that up. He's not one of those magical pitches but about Jesus they just looking for tight sites so Roughly face. It looks more like John McAfee to me than anyone. Yeah, it does I mean I'm not sure if that increases the. Chris Board decreases the price of the crisp but. I it's amazing to me is is like you see these faces on through do you remember the unbutton right? He's. Young it also remembers. The colleague Mellon Fish and stuff like that as. Well, when you look at that, it was it was very visible right and with this. You've really got a squint ear is quite a bit to see. Did you see? Jesus. So begs the question to me how much people staring potatoes by the way staring at potatoes might be the title. Cooling. because. You. Got To look at this with some fairly serious illegalize to be able to you know no action Monica lies like Ashley legalized. So I, I have so many. So I had never heard of the non one I have looked up. Looks nothing like nine the follow up story nine years. After the none I became famous it was stolen five thousand dollar reward was offered to no avail. Really Wow, he's like. A high stakes? Article, you just can't make this stuff up. I wonder what happened to the none bud I mean anything about did you see that woman who found She kept him McDonald's Burger for twenty five years and like barely rotted. which says something about what goes into McDonald's food? Here's the thing about an entire meal that costs ninety nine cents you should never eat. You. See Right there. That's the coastal elitism. is a man who is eating garbage for his entire life I disagree with. I. Think. Is. Opposite of color ceremony comes. As someone who I once saw eight twenty, seven consecutive meals at Carl's junior i. I. Leave me people that that has. Detrimental impacts on the human digestive system, I had no choice. So I. I would say you would jump Kathy story which is John McAfee hit tall out I. saw I'm McDonnell's Off. Today Star get hassle up the Donald Full Circle Right. Off after they start getting hassled about it was unhealthy and the government may be going to regulate themselves. They came up with the audience they'd sell. Like semi decent coffee and things I is A. Cafe. I saw someone had a picture of what they come with McAfee on twitter. Ugly. They've been bought your product I still have. Pig out the. To to. The long have you been sitting on McDonald's John McAdams story? Some day those will both come up in the same sentence. Today is your day. Literally, every everything in the world happens in bad voltage Saito lights. It's it. It is. It is true by the way if either of you just before we go into the series either have you seen the documentary about John McAfee On Net flicks about him like in Belize and running is a militia and stuff like that. No lease taste. Well, over the edge of this point for more I can tell it is it is one of the most mind-blowing stories I've ever seen. It's incredible. If anyone hasn't seen that documentary go and check it out do you it's it's that guy's life is ridiculous. Eleven I've look. Yeah, it's yeah. So anyway. Series, let's go back to our usual professional journalism state. So facebook threatening to pull news from Australia. If a particular new law passes, this is really interesting. This is I'm upstate news thought that all is. The Job Georgia summarize. It. Yeah. So there was a law recently passed in Australia basically saying that if you it's not that facebook is offering news or snippets of news as a case with Google. What they want here is if you as a user of facebook post news that journalistic outlet wants to receive money. And facebook's response has kind of Ben. No. We're not GONNA do that to the point that they're considering I believe pulling out of Australia. If this article is to be believed or not allowing you to post links to new sites yet my understanding all the thing is the The Australian government attempting to. Its journalism. ASPERSION, call it. They want to make sure the Obama we've talked about how I'm If you will journalism need need bike shoulder news organizations style alive. and so this is an attempt to do that. And what facebook of Said is not winnow I'm I widow guy giving any money to any new. Toll, and if you tend to make us do, we'll just prevent everyone in Australia from posting any news any links to any news articles anywhere As far as I can tell, US attempt to face down the Australian. Government who now by the Guide Okay Catch Liability Ted so it'll be interesting to see how this works out because I think I'm not necessarily sure I hugely like. The WII feels straight government going about this but attempting to something while than. Oh. Well, I guess for wants journalism crater that facebook and Google gets people the money because there's nothing we can do about it. Anybody they need direction might be an improvement I don't think. So so I I I could be more pro journalist as I have reminded folks on multiple. Yes. On the show please support journalism local journalism especially but journalism. In general more important than it's ever been and someone who pays for quite a few journalistic outlets because I believe in this and someone who thinks facebook is a tire fire of garbage. Actually casebook on this one, I think if there's certain cases where if facebook was cure aiding news and offering facebook, dot com slash news or whatever, and the APP a new section where they were accumulating news items and taking snippets, they should be paying journalistic out outlets for that, and probably would be good if they did. So if you're going to say any random user who posts news to any random site there then on the hook to pay. By by allowing users to post news, those outlets are getting more viewers by definition and it's not something facebook controls like if it's user generated content in that form and you're not scraping I, don't know why you would pay I don't know what you're paying for Osceola understand it and understand the twenty policies mobile. U-TURNS use while the May are not fully Shaw I've grasped this but if you would just posting a link and so if someone wanted to see what the League was, they had to go off to that newspaper Cy I don't think news organizations would have a problem with it. It's the consumer that news I never leave facebook I the because you'll be doing the. The polling snippets or our facebook aims to news articles or there aren't so fast the news articles I think they do have to pay. My interpretation of this article is not that is just the user generated portion, but if you post I. Link, it goes where. I mean on most things do this why they go by get a preview image on a summary of the content and the headline and so on. But. Worby actually means, is it practice if we want to read the salaries, which is almost people to rate, then you'd never leave facebook. So the news organizations, no Gandhi extra hits, they're doing all the reporting a no one even shows up on their website and that is I think the Solta thing that joins up on facebook very much. Nothing to do with us which just. What I like is the arrogance of facebook say. The vibe to me very much. How dare you attempt to limit what we do don't you get it with facebook His Dhabi flower prejudice. Well. You're a very hateful human being. Three, likely. Only certain. Mainly very mainly, very, very handsome English co co-hosts host. The interesting to see how. Over. The next couple of weeks or months I think it will be because it could be a bellwether full something for things Chaso. Joel and facebook both will fight this tooth and nail because they don't about Australia's about the president and other countries it is. Yeah. Did you did you see that zooms market cap is now one, hundred, fifteen, one, hundred, fifteen, billion, and that makes them with more than IBM. So I did see this because I put it in their last night and as of today, they're up against what's actually one hundred, twenty, seven, billion as at the time of the morning holy for context IBM Today One, hundred nine but the thing that fascinates me here I get that zooms growth company in IBM very much right now, not a growth company revenue for the last quarter. IBM eighteen point one, billion dollars Zoom three, hundred, twenty, eight, million dollars which equates to operating income for for IBM one point nine, four, billion dollars zoom thirty, three, million dollars. Fast See. But I think to May. This is just more examples of. Stock prices, markups things bear no resemblance to reality walks. Stocks. They. Only go up. It's Him and I think zoom I'm despite the fact as we talk about on the show, they have some. Extra their vettix extremely unpleasant technical things in pursuit of what they is a slick user experience. I like it bar. I think there is a reason that they that they did really well of suddenly the well turning to video calling and. Actually better than everyone else cited. Zoom Cosio experience are more reliable breakdown less have more faith.'? All better. So Zoom went down the other day and it dawned on me that despite all the global pandemic happening in everything happening in zoom these days that's the first outage I can remember them having which for a company of their size and their age very impressive. Honestly. So I think they're doing a great job by one hundred, twenty, six, billion dollar valuation. Yeah. A little bit rich I. Just. I always, but the fact that they've spun up from being. Two people in the shed to serving the whole world in the space of six months. that. That's the thing like them given the fact that basically the world's tied using zoom because it's a lot of people have heard of and probably dead Google search rankings for video calls on boarding that level of growth with that like Jeremy says like with the level of reliability is people are gonNA write about this in the history books in tech like it's mind blowing and I don't deny that their valuation will be very, very high. The thing I find interesting about Silicon Valley accounting is. To what extent like it doesn't necessarily have to be directly tied to revenue it could be projected revenue and they're definitely very exciting company for a lot of people. But I don't know whether it should be seventy, billion of five, hundred, billion a just at that point I think you're in the in the realm of. So the question from evaluate to justify that kind of valuation, they're going to have to pivot into multiple areas that they're just not in right now doing that successfully will I believe be their challenge just goes to show you though Google meet should have been so far ahead of this is. How few meet links I get these days. Yeah and out the thing this thing about the valuation saying that the amount of money they're making in the six months during which everyone on earth is doing video Kohl's multiple times a day and no well, most beforehand, and they still only making a few hundred million which to be clear is no nothing. Right how? If you think, okay one hundred, fifty billion dollars on this company. How you GONNA get money back. It's I don't get it but. Don't get the whole thing. But it's like it's like Tiktok Right I. mean you know Tiktok of become very, very interesting to Microsoft and it's because. There's just this massive concentration of uses there right and it's probably the same thing with zoom. The Microsoft. Walmart acquisition rumor is a fascinating one. what a mugs of the quarry Wolmar will walk. Microsoft at Walmart acquiring TIKTOK. No I was going to say, wow, can mention of law that's news also. Might Station of the text of mission statement. A computer on every desktop and Broccoli on every day stop. Microsoft desperate to sell shitty new surface phones we have to by Walmart and put them in there. The the by the way, the what was that? What was that game's console from the Nintendo it? Time clock clock and game. Oh do you remember? which game and watch that my friends is the new micro surface phone. It's terrible. It looks awful. The. One. Yeah, they should gap in the middle. You. To. Feed my feelings on this road without even. It's too small. Well, let's squeeze through the next two and a couple of minutes because we need time for our segment. So Amazon winds FAA approval to deliver packages by drone. Yes I put this one in here that the details were. Pretty Lean. So I don't know exactly what this means. It did not indicate whether it was A. Carte blanche deliver things or if you still needed line of sight, those are two way different things. So we'll be cured this article just came out so we'll be curious to see the details I just was more interested in what you both think of drone delivery in the abstract this this particular item aside. I'm. Fara. I taught say how it works to a block flat. I'm sure it's fine. If you call massive great big a great big garden drunken. London. But different in the UK anyway I mean. I'm. Wrong here because basically basing this on the nine, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight that game piper boy. But But as far as I could tell achieving. Truth I've seen things. Don't they see films as well? To people in the US, are okay with the day the. A parcells liver to ends up somewhere in your front y'all D-. That counts as delivery. And that doesn't happen in the UK toll. I I. Don't think it happens here either. So where does it? Where does it? How does the nowhere to land? That sounds like a problem for the person writing software for drones on your. Somewhere, on your prop I I think I, think they'll figure this stuff out I mean it seems to me not enough of earth is addressable by a drone for this to ever be viable. This. This is what I think. I'm. Fine. The the address is. Accessible all a map or whatever. But where he outwear someone's letterboxes so I think he was repulsed I could see it maybe working are more suburbs or even further out where you could have a truck filled with packages, and if you drone drive to a neighborhood at does thing delivers the few in cities though I just can't see this working. Now, a toll. Yeah we'll. We'll see what happens I mean. Maybe it will be only available to some people part of the reason why I'm supportive of this is I just WanNa see drones actually being used in useful situation. So for example, with the California life wildfires that being going on. I think drones could be really useful potentially early detection of fires, notification of fire crews and even potentially drones going in you know dropping flame retardant on small fires and things like that, and we need the FAA to FA to approve. Drones to even edge not direction. So it would. It would be nice to have sentences with the word drone in the don't also have the word warfare. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yet We haven't really got time for the last one but why don't we just say at BMW making onerous pay for features like he had seats fire subscription we'll think it's a shit idea. New Story is over. So we talked. About briefly, about high the email service which. sells. Council nonchalant those year? And put the APP in the APP store and then go to booted out by apple was by they were targeting some of that money to apple. They had Hansen who? BISKUPIC company that Mike Hi decided to kick off a big. Discussion about whether this was fair and whether it's feather Netflix spotify. and. Apple were put on the defensive by this and seems with discussion has blown up somewhat into other areas, for example, would press. So. wordpress I will grant this one is slightly different than the hey one but for those of you not familiar with wordpress. wordpress dot. com. which offers paid accounts and domain names and some other things, and there's wordpress the open source software. So the folks that automatic who are the commercial entity part of FOUR PRESS DOT COM have. A because everything's GPL. They have a special license from the wordpress foundation to offer an APP. That is the GP Code but not GPL since apple doesn't allow GPL code and the software it came out that if you went to the support link and then got through a web view and then did some other things, you could eventually see that you could pay for wordpress dot com things. But it wasn't in the APP in any way, it was a web view and it wasn't promoted. It was more accidental than anything. So they shut off all updates and said, now you have to do in purchases, which would be odd because the wordpress APP while it does support wordpress.com it also supports any site self hosted or if you host with the someone else. So they wanted an in APP purchase that would only go to wordpress dot com for an APP that did a lot of things so. Interestingly as well. It wasn't just that they said when someone manages to find their way to this, you have to not purchase. You have to make it easier to buy things these apples at it's like Guinea to you need to push purchases on people more, and then toy thirty percent of them to us. Right so Matthew Mon Mike posted if you're if you're wondering why wordpress Iowa have been absent, we're locked out of the APP store to be able to ship updates and bug fixes. Again, we had to give it to supporting purchases for DOT COM plans. Yes I know this is problematic and I'm open to suggestions. How do we allow others to do an APP purchases? Do we have a new name, etc etc. Finally blew up enough that apple not only reversed course but issued a very rare apology which you almost never see. So this this one's been resolved and it was maybe an entire week or so until the next one happened, which is well. Then epic eight on the guide. Now. Pick EPI people make four nine and the EPA Game Dole. which she sold to rival steam. And They're taking an interesting stance on this epic are very much about building a platform where the money goes to them. They've run into the Pomona all sorts of different platforms but how their own payments systems onus I, fall so. Four no, it was aimed the oil stole. Apple removed after the game offered discount on virtual currency by Jacuzzi but they offered I discount if you both virtual currency outside the APP. that. Yeah. So I'm obviously if you inside the APP, not via apple in APP purchase yeah yeah. I'm. A big appetite, the car I'm. Epoch. Said widow paying the very very much like basecamp is out of she's extortion. You've monopoly playing into the existing discussion. It was already starting to go on but now much biggest cow because there's a shed light a fortnight as. Blowing me. There's one or two, a which boy. Apple terminated for large developer accounts. And this one is different than the previous two in that. Yeah. It's very clear that epic deliberately took a step by introducing direct payments. That's very against the agreement whether you agree with it or not. It's against the agreement. So they knew that it would result in them being banned, and in fact, filed a lawsuit with an hour of it happening. Yeah. So clearly, this was not sir wordpress one I think was accidental and. Did Not do a thing I'm purchase. This was very intentional. Think. Managed to Gabon's people behind them because what happened to them seems flagrantly unfair. You know it's apple going. We WanNA bunch of this molly for no real reason of the fact that you've gone I also, that seems unfair and people to come out against the worst thing as far as I can tell was probably. An overzealous review I poke. Husband almost senior. KPI somewhere that is number of people you badgered into in-app purchases. which creates weird incentive, which would you? Let us but exactly as you say epic. No victims of the fight they deliberately pouring petrol on. Yet picking your with the with the fading that they'll come out ahead which they might do. Some extent are this is one. Huge Corporation take you on another huge corporation at I'm kind of a plague on both your houses, a pay health care who wins was win Okinawa weightless consumers alway but. I do I. DO think it's interesting and while all three of these things all different, they're all of a similar. A similar. Arching. Narrative. Fest Abou is it reasonable for APPS, store should be. Able to charge molly on purchases made. With apps you go through them does that change if the the obstacles dod way to get things on that platform? Is it reasonable to take payments of you know take cats are payments that may be in the APP so and so what I wanted to was. What we wanted to do was drilling to this little bit more day tiles. So the so the epic Web Press, the High Staff is background for the for the broader picture for the discussion orders question I have a question and I don't know if either of you got the answer. This is do we know why apple insists on this inept payments pace? Because on one hand, you could say this is because they wanna cut of the of the money that's being made but another way of looking at could be they want to reduce the risk of people putting their own potentially fraudulent payment gateways into these APPS and they want to protect the the safety of they use. They would say both armed the. It's a much easier payment experience if all payments the platform. Go through exactly the same thing. So you've already you've already created your apple account. So purchasing now, just essentially one click and that makes Parisi but they probably don't want clicks ams hold Payton on that. So. They won't touch payments or something I don't. Think Apple this. Yeah. What's interesting to me about the APP one specifically but the discussion more broadly is I think philosophically they both make interesting arguments and they're each very much colored by the perspective of the respective organizations. Apple's going to tell you very much to what act said. We're focused on our customers and our user experience, and we always are going to prioritize quality and security and privacy. So when you do an inept purchase, you know only we're billing you and your credit card never leaves and we we are vetting all the APPS in the APP store so that you know that none them are overtly militias, etc, etc etc. But what they're really saying is in what I think it comes down to wear your perspective on this lies is is a phone. A computer in the sense of general purpose computer or is it a very specialized thing that you'd want different rules because if you think it's a computer that aspect is weird because you should be able to do whatever you want with the platform like a computer, which has typically been the case for computing's history if you would as a different thing. I think apple's argument carries a little bit of water in that. There's way more phones out there than computers held by way less technical people and way less problems with weird APP installations at and not that there's no meller. But comparatively as a percentage, it's infinitesimal compared to broader computing. If you take I think it's disingenuous nature of it noise. Well, May and all of onto other people. Exactly. As you say Jimmy the I'm the apple line is very much who'll about the user experience we're all about consistency on the platform the fact that anytime anyone who spends a dollar while standing within a hundred yards of an iphone, we get thirty percents of is some kind of cosmic coincidence but terribly convenient for us, but he's definitely not the point. If it was very much like what you're doing is saying this happened on an iphone and involve molly therefore, we get some of the money. But, is it is it? I'm not sure if the comparison between phone and computer is the right one I think it's more about. The role of a an ecosystem, right? So for example, blockbuster video. Would not just talk anything they they they. They would determine what they wanted in this doors right and if they'd like most blockbuster video that I've ever been into, for example, didn't stock hardcore pornography right and they'd make a determin about to temptation about what they put into their ecosystem and it's probably going to be driven by prophets. Poverty is going to be for the protection of their customers right? I brief brief aside here for younger listeners in the olden days. If you wanted to watch a film, you had to put your shoes. Walk down to the town. Someone's money which they would hand you videocassette. You take what you have to walk back to the shop once she finished with it. Still Alive Eylau. Where award in comparison to compute make sense is that and. I. Think you make an interesting point Jeremy but like the Internet is just a general, it's a free for. All right. It's the wild west whereas comparing that to a curated ecosystem and apple of being very clear that this is a curate ecosystem that everything necessary guest to go in there isn't this just an playing devil's advocate isn't this just an extension of that? First of all devil's advocate the devil has enough advocates look out the window. Wow. Salient. Telling I think it'll come in then came to use their ecosystem on the question is. If. You put the effort into building an ecosystem how much all you entitled to the profit generated within that ecosystem I'm so the computer thing people tend to compared to sort of appliances I if I if money happens on my set top box than that's obviously according to the company, sold it to me but that luggage blurred awful law when other people are allowed to build apps for that platform. So you'll building an ecosystem, he's just I. Devised a day. Gave I mean fine if you got any money off an Apple Newton. Or something. Where all the most of the things on it were provided to you by apple as Paul of the perch of the device then yeah that goes to them but you're doing you're building an ecosystem in which other people are building. APPS and. The justification for Apple. Deserving, thirty percent of every penny make by putting my APP on their platform is they brought the platform to people in the first place and. They certainly asserted that they fail they deserve. But I have no very clear picture in my head of A. The moral boundary on these lies where I think the trick thanks to as to. If, you create an ecosystem argue entitled to or some of all of the products of ecosystem or you use posted divide your money from the production of the ecosystem itself not from the. Not. Not. Everyone else's money on top of it. You know. I think a lot of this depends in my mind on. The size because if you had for example to small ecosystems, right, let's say going back to the days like a phone and we're building an ecosystem around unto phone and then you had like, what was it called that? What was that other thing saw? sailfish not. Soft. Fisher building and let's say selfish ability in their own ecosystem in my mind because they're so small they can really decide what the hell they want to do in in the songs. It's within the premises of law and then it's up to the develop has to choose. Whether that works for them, like if a boon to says, we're not gonNA take any of your revenue You know you can run your own payment provider and selfish says we are going to take percent of revenue. Then it's up to the developers to choose where I think he gets sticky with apple is so big this. So influential there such a large of the market that if you're an APP developer and your building an. APP. To be successful, you really need to get your APP into the apple APP store and therefore your hands are tied and that's where it gets. It's kind of like the antitrust piece to a degree that's where to me the ethics get sticky. If it's way smaller, I, don't care as much as just let the market decide see she to me from from my perspective, I'm. What is most similar to is taxes. The government creates at ecosystem a place for business to happen at in return for having done that they take some of the upside of all the businesses by taxing businesses right which is reasonable thing to do, and that's what governments fall, and that's how you find out sentence and so on. Anyone listening to this you currently things but you shouldn't have to pay taxes welcome sort of. Importantly, I think it wouldn't surprise me if some people inside inside Google inside Microsoft buys he see things that way it's. That's fair. We've created this market from nothing by putting a bunch of money and effort into making happen. We deserve some of all of the upside of it. The distinction is and this is what they get back to your point about them being big or small ECON-. Really vote them away if you don't like. So. We're talking about a couple of different things here. I think I. It's clear that given that Apple's the United States company in the current Supreme Court recent rulings are really clear on businesses including monopolies here have have no duty to deal with their parties that the rulings are pretty explicit there, and even if they choose to to deal with them, they're not really compelled to do so on terms which are what I would consider. Fair. Rules sorry to interrupt unpack that what do you mean specifically by that because I this is new to me an probably our listeners as well which burnt out. About dealing with the third pies, explain what you're defining as a third part within this context and that statute. So the there's been a couple rulings recently where there's there's been questions and it hasn't been a question similar to this one but. They weren't even intact to my memory. The basic ruling was that there's no way to compel a company to do business with another company with another company with which would be a third party there. There are some exceptions around if the monopoly is deemed monopoly and changes rules and those rules directly impact prophets in there are a couple edge cases, BUT WE'RE IN A. Time right now that is very, let's call it business friendly for lack of a better word. You have to I don't foresee this case from a legal perspective going in favor. That said the most recent ruling was interesting in that they almost had a split decision because there was two pieces. What apple did they basically said, if you don't fix this by this date, we're GONNA kick fortnight out of the store and then suspend your account completely, which would also impact unreal engine which many third parties use. Yeah, right. EPIC S for an injunction for both and what the judge said was apple can kick fortnight out of the store and has done so but they cannot block your account in a way that impacts. Unreal engine that would be undue harm to your business. Which is The right answer in the short term because that means you're not completely putting out of business. Yeah. But you're saying okay that one APP apple has the right to to. I I, don't think. the epic. It necessarily looking to win this in court while they're looking for is a core of public opinion thing which then puts pressure on apple to change. You know they're not looking for a judge to go. Yeah. It's all completely fine at epic could do this apple are in your store and they don't have to give you any of the money because a judge is not going to do that as Jeremy Says Yep. Yep. Slightly wagering that most people who play for the are more loyal to fort like they ought to their iphones, which is a big pitch but go to wit. So, to to there though I think apple probably in the long term is overplaying his hand here I don't mean with epic, I, mean with developers. In the and an iphone without APPs is useless. Yes. It's very expensive useless device. So I, think I don't know that a company as popular as Apple's platform has been. So anti developer friendly ever in the history of computing like they're really setting the bar here in a way that Microsoft was very antagonistic to partners and to competitor certainly, I would say predatory even. They were always very friendly with developers well, but this is a new apple thing. You know I mean I think it is don't forget. There was a time where. Developers because they had to and I think that comes back to why apple is doing this. Now I think apple had to go to adobe back in the day and almost bag for them to support the platform in a way that kept apple in business and they will never forget that and never give up control again, I think this about apple is Not About consumers, it's not about anything. It's not about profitability even it's about control and they lost control once and they don't ever. WanNa lose control again, and until you see the senior people from Apple Gone I think the fear of losing control dictates every decision that they make at the high level I would I would certainly agree with I just think that. It's all been happening in light developing on Apple Platforms I. Mean there were times where. You could get making small outs but if you made a big are would apple would just copy put you out of business the next I mean they create a clarice and then undercut them It's So I think they've been unfamiliar to developers for a long time to your point. Yeah but I. I completely agree with you it's about. Control. What's interesting as Google, have on the same thing here with full night I doubt just open by tithing to Google what's the difference between? android oils is that you counseled load APPs on android now. android does average say this is quite dangerous and you shouldn't do it and Blah Blah Blah, but you can't do it and that's a reasonable hotch for epic step foodsafety won't fortnight go and get it from the epic android game. Store inside loud it. Also. What actually do we sideline the APP? Yet. Another audience are GonNa do that. We'll bury month. The I'm guessing it's like five percent of their audience will sign. Are you sure about that I mean we're talking about people sly fortnight. So they slightly tech savvy. No. Because gamers a Norbu paypal why? Why? Not a kids play for night they're gonNA. have any idea of how to sign. Actually, all of the. We plan. Obsolete disagree with you especially since it's not like they have to do it by googling around for four where they can download the AP k., the four, hundred website we'll say in explicit detail. Do this do this? Do this? You think that's that. So many people are comfortable with side loading APPs why out more games and applications available like whenever I've gone to any website and people, and it shows you how to install an apple iphone. They never talk about sideline as the reason why isn't that more certainly agree with you that he's more difficult soldered that is just go find them in the playstore, but everyone else has been paid to say we're GONNA. Take thought hit in order to maintain control ourselves an epic aw pet to lie. Right. But this is where I think. It's like you said a battle of public opinion. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is if you think that side loading APPs is simple and the audience or is open to it as you say, they are what? We don't have any numbers and there's obviously, but I would have thought that if it is that simple and people are very comfortable with doing, then you would see it as a common installation option for people I think it's are these me by midway between the two. You will certainly lose a bunch of people by talking to able to side loading guess I agree with you agree with China although it's not some people it's the majority of the I i. think it's like eighty percent of people will not I don't know if I'd go. I'll go with majority for shy, dot. That it is I think I mean I I have no statistics on this and I have looked into a little bit and. Adobe leave know how you'd find to stick on this I. Don't Yeah I. Don't think it's crackle. Yeah. Yeah, I think the only day do again possibly have is how common it have publicizes in Maga but you can absolutely imagine, for example, public demand I'm pushing on Google at first and then apple lighter to make it easier to maybe side load APPs from known providers. For example, I mean to give you another example Allison did this right? They wanted you to side the Amazon APP store or on Amazon specific, devices? Came at the APP store hot you just can't be the AMAS absolutely three APPs in it. So people I mean and I was at of largely gone while. Because he didn't. But I think with pressure on this you can you can me imagine that being a distinction between side loading some? PK that you've downloaded off of eggs, dia forums and side loading a known game from unknown publisher with known signatures. I don't know whether public pressure thing live on that and apple allowing side loading actal would be miraculous victory for epic I. think that trick nearly in hair you to. INSTALL APPS via your own self signing. Even that's a hassle. Let alone. Yes I don't get building an and getting. Test Flyers link but yeah, it's not I think the where where I imagine this is difficult as well. Is that while dogs like us very interested in this topic? I bet you anything that ninety eight percent of the fortnight players. Eight don't care about this and the. Like, probably aren't aware of this like the hardcore fortnight people were know about this in the same way that the hod coal game has no about specs of the PS five and the xbox series snl on all that kind of stuff but I think the challenge is I. Think most people probably are like show I've gotten iphone. I'll just use apple pay whatever like it's not that big a deal because if you're gonNA have an iphone you've probably gonNA use apple pay I would be a fan of if apple's ten dollars. They charge you ten dollars and there was a separate line item that said APP store fee three dollars yet right would be a much more fair model than it is now more transparency. Because then I think if people cared they would at least know okay. Apples making thirty percent of everything I buy do I think that's fair is this purchase I would like to proceed with not only does apple not break it out they actively stop you from saying that there's a charge in there that F door fee to the point that if you say, they'll kick you the store which had a little weird I. But this this is this is the. Them I mean they want control but they don't look people saying they go control because they're big picture messages. You look the forward which epic of. Imitation. That's Arab apple stolen to present themselves as the. The brave liberators pushing back against the oppressive computer technologists you like. Did you people have cumby enemy you are Babylon. Yes. Point right packing. I'm I'm kind of. Which? That's what I. Think's interesting. The thing that you can tell me about your breakout separate line item thing is. I liked Maggie Lago, those passive aggressive restaurants you break out. State Taxes A. SEPARATE LINE ITEM just to. Lose, ask charging age the. Government. and. I. Actually. A good thing I think they're legally required to do so. Just roll it into the bill without saying what went where that I the thing is big because the thing is This this is you by you know. Yeah but I I think it's good because like if I'm a restaurant, right, let's say. Let's say there's a twenty five dollar bill and for the sake? Of argument three dollars of that Bill. Going towards local taxes and whatever else and then I hear people complaining about a maybe a more price sensitive restaurant people complaining about the prices. I'd be really pissed off as a restaurant owner in well, I don't want to charge you this like this is this is part and parcel of business in this state and I can imagine epic thinking like. That they would want to other APP, develop as being able to say like, sure. Yeah a third of. What you're actually going towards apple actually think that. Legally they should have to do that like. Them saying that they don't want to do that to me shady like that's just covering your tracks and I think they should be required to do what I'm kind of surprised by is. Is. Why apple and Google come up with some kind of special arrangement for large companies way you have like a partner. Except they have them just not guys because they have done for Netflix's down spotify. which is a great example of why Apple's policies are terrible for consumers terrible for developers and terrible in the long run for apple I think. If you log into something like Netflix on an eye device, you get nothing but a log in screen you don't get how to sign up for Netflix's account which you might know how to do but some people don't you don't get anything about pricing or even what the APP does because of their model and the fact that you can't say you have to charge and you can't charge for an account in the APP store have to pay the fee. There's just a log in which is the worst conceivable you I can tell us but it's all getting around Apple's policies. But that's not a good experience for any of the people in the chain from apple to consumers I'm which is hobby rethink things a little. Gives the lie in my opinion to Apple's claims that it's all about providing a slick user experiences we're happy to play great user experience. As long as we get archive, we don't get our. croppies experiences fine but they can't afford. More netflix because. Everyone's go netflix's who wants to watch you on their IPAD or their I fight. If have it then they'll go but I want to want you on my son and they'll stop buying times. There are half a dozen brands may be where people perhaps more loyal to those brands than the iphone. NETFLIX's probably while of them out and might be one. I think even just spotify and Netflix Platform. Would have a material impact on their revenue absolutely this woman those brands are people are more loyal to them than they ought to. They were find. I, think epic. Gambling the Fort Lloyd's in that class. Of so part of this is definitely his the CEOS and founders personality. I he's also holds. If one or two of these other big names that we talk about, say you know what? Now I've gauging on the response to them I think the tide has changed I'm going to strike. Now while the iron is hot I, think they're trying to spark that flame. Yeah. They will. And if they do start a wave, it's a big problem. It's wave it is. 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College Basketball Picks & Tips with Greg Peterson March 11, 2020

Sports Gambling Radio - By BangTheBook

20:51 min | 8 months ago

College Basketball Picks & Tips with Greg Peterson March 11, 2020

"So we go from Brad powers to Greg Peterson of visa and and the Hoopoe hoops. Podcast AT G unit underscore eighty-one on twitter. Greg How's it going today? Man Doing Great. Thank you so much. I mean my friend. Absolutely glad you're back on the program here we're GonNa Talk Some Games in the ACC AAC CONFERENCE USA Sunbelt and the Patriot league rapid fire with those here for this Wednesday slate. But before we get into that you and I were having an interesting little discussion before we started recording here about some of the implications of these empty venues for the Big West Conference Tournament as well as the Mac Conference Tournament. And quite frankly some of the regionals next week for March madness could wind up being played an empty arenas as well and all of us are sort of trying to figure out how to handle this. What's your take on the whole thing? I could actually help to the over just because you have absolutely no noise whatsoever. That's going to hamper these teams. I know what you're going to have a little bit of a different backdrop. I think that actually helps a little bit and free. Throw shooting huge shoe because you need all the focus in the world when it comes to free throw Saturday. There's no easier time to shoot free throws when you're in an empty venue so I actually am going to argue. That helps out a little bit more with Louvers and unders personally. Because I know that I personally whenever I play my best basketball when I was just laying in some of my buddies in a scrimmage meanwhile when I got out there on the middle school floor because I've on leaving college I wound up not playing anymore basketball after the eighth grade because I retired due to a lack talent when I did my worst play. That would be whenever I was out there playing an actual games right when I was in closed-door scrimmages so the question is do you feel. Like that's a contrarian point of view. I mean I personally think the big west and the Mac told us are gonNA get hit down because these are games being played in very very big. You know professional sports venues. I feel like those totals. Probably get bet down. So what are you going to do at the outset here I mean? Are you going to expect that? You're on a contrarian side and wait for these totals to come down and then get them when they bought them out or do you think a lot of people will be along the same lines as you think it helps the over and you may hit some of these. Totals a little bit quicker. Honestly I think this is uncharted territory. This is one of which we're going to have to see what happens the first day because I can't remember why time we've seen just a college basketball game played in a completely empty venue in what you're supposed to have like twenty thousand people so it is very interesting spot there. I will say this. How many people do the Big West typically draw because you were talking about that being a huge building? There just aren't a lot of people there in general and there are some of these teams and some of these conferences that they've blamed for a very small crowd anyway so I do think that it's going to be a little bit interesting. I think there might be a couple people I might be on the under. But it's just one of these things where we've never seen it before. I don't even know what to expect. I guess what kind of see how this whole dynamic plays out here this week and then like I said potentially a much bigger deal next week but we did have over thirteen thousand people last night for the opening two games at the ACC tournament in Greensboro. Although maybe that was paid attendance more than anything. I guess left the chicken. Those Games look like tonight but a couple of games going off tonight. Games actually have already started. While we're recording. This year on Wednesday afternoon Clemson and Miami already underway but the too late Games in the ACC tonight Notre Dame and Boston College teams did not play last night right now. You got there in the marketplace Notre Dame nine and a half point favorite here against Boston College. What do you think about that one down in Greensboro? This is a little bit too or play because keep them with us. Gosh they are going to be without Nick. Popovich in this game but nick July signed these teams laid in what was a one point game scored as many points as myself. So I think that's a little bit of an interesting parallel there with this Notre Dame team you're gonNA have the best rebounder out there in John Mooney. He's our five players with regards rebounds per game that. It'd be twelve. Apricot TESTS AS WE KNOW. Today does a very good job would be able to take care of the ball with Boston. College towards the end of the year. They began to play a little bit better basketball because they were dealing with so many injuries earlier in the year. I do think that is something that you do. Want to take note of. And this Notre Dame team they just seemed to play in a variety of different styles. They were really playing. Fad stores like late January early February. They've downshifted a about ever sunset seventy three points on each other lies four-game so I think that there's a fighters chance at Boston. College resembled say within single digits. And keep those one close the other game in the ACC tournament Tonight Carolina and we knew that a lot was expected of North Carolina. Because let's be honest they were a fourteen seed and some places had them going off at twelve to one to win this conference tournament. So this is the last stand for the tar heels who obviously did not have a very good season. Did Miss Anthony. While he was hurt tonight they take on Syracuse. So they go play that match up zone. After having all kinds of success offensively against Virginia Tech last night similar situation the line open to two and a half bet up to three seats of three. And a half out there. Now as well does North Carolina have as much success rate against Syracuse in advance. I do think so because you mentioned the fact that they're playing against his own circus hasn't had much success playing defense at all this year. Let's be honest here. I think that they have given up sixty nine points or more in pretty much eight out of their last nine games so it is not one well for them there and for let's see they're finally starting to play some. Good Basketball Lee. Seventy six points in each of their last five games with North Carolina. Last sign these teams played they hammered Syracuse area. We'll get to ninety points. I do think it's going to be a little bit tougher because you obviously are playing in a neutral car. Venue out there in Greensboro. That said about Garrison Brooks twenty plus points in each other North Carolina's last seven games. I like reasonable bring to the table. Syracuse this is just a bunch that they don't necessarily have lot jeff. Nave really having to go to a little bit. More of a six man rotation Brumby. Cbgb's able to be a couple of rebounds. But I do think the North Carolina once again going to be able to get the job done here though I will say. I was getting a lot of questions about the guards. North Carolina Futures. As well if you're really wanted value with North Carolina. You don't take that futures number. What you do is what I like to call just a money. Line Parlay a rolling parlay where you one unit on the money line game one and you just keep rolling it over and that way if you wind up getting a match if they don't like with North Carolina or something like that you'll tap out and let's face it. Paled is going to be better anyway again if any for listeners. Take anything away from these conference. Tournament shows. We've been doing. It's the money. Line Rollover all of our guests have talked about it. We've talked about a ton that price is going to be better you than the futures market in probably ninety to ninety five percent of the cases. So if there's anything you take away heading into these remaining conference tournaments or next year's conference tournaments make sure that it is that money line. Rollover Greg we transitioned over to the M. Aa see now. The Metro Atlanta Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference New Conference Tournament. Venue for this when it had been played in Albany now moves to Atlantic City three games last night. Three Games under the total three games. That didn't really scare the number at any point in time. Either tonight we've got CNN and Manhattan. The end of the number one seed in this conference tournament Manhattan with like an hour and a half without scoring last night and still won the game comfortably over Fairfield but SAN JOSE. Six and a half point favorite. Tonight yeah this is really interesting because it sounds like Seattle necessarily put. The world on fire wizards their record. This is a bunch. They're obviously GONNA have the best player out there on the floor in jail and pick it. He's able to get a little bit under fifteen points. She's nearly forty percent for three six turnovers but with Manhattan. The big key for them being able to hold up on the glass. The Calgary polly pocket they give you a combined twelve rebounds per game last time these two teams Seattle was able to take it to an end. They were able to get a double digit win and Sienna comes strong winners of each out of their last night games. But I do like the way the Manhattan has been able to play in general the big key for man and free throw shooting because they have been so poor th line but we saw the first Sunday two teams laid man was to eighty one points in that game. They were able overcomes the shooting. Twelve of twenty two three point range be key for men and just being a hold up at the point of Tech. Maybe try to force a couple turnovers. I did think the Menendez a chance to be able to stay within the summer. Now like I said this is a new conference tournament venue. So does it help you to take the Manhattan side. Because they played a game gotta lay of the land got to feel a little bit more comfortable out there or does that does not matter to you. This is one in which it doesn't necessarily do a whole lot for me because either way it's going to be a neutral court. I think that this is a spot of which it's something where maybe Manhattan benefits a little bit more. Not Because of the venue but just because they now have a game under their belt in general because that typically can help out some of these teams in conference tournaments in general and with Manhattan. They just play at a fast paced to begin with. So I do think that that's big as well aren't so the other game tonight in the a little bit of a late tip off here. Iona and Saint. Peter's Ionas made this conference tournament final seven years in a row. Eight of the last nine ten of a running joke out there going into this comfort that they would find a way to get into the title game here. Somehow which would mean beating saint tonight. The peacocks are a small favorite of two and a half but they take out an. I own a team. That just has a reputation in this conference tournament. Yeah keeping my with my own of the big thing with. This year's team is just a coaching situation. In general Tim clue ceiling all this health issues. That certainly hoped hampered this so. You're not getting the same. I own a team that you have in the past. Meanwhile Saint Peter's this is a bunch at they actually played against. I own a just about a week or so ago. They were able to get that win by kind of sixty eight to sixty five. This as ain't Peter Sima which the whole is greater than the suburbs parts. They don't have that averages more than nine points per game but Casey Endesa Guy that is able to be right around two blocks for game. Doug shoots over forty percent for three. It's on drive. Eight five rebounds per game. Nancy will give you a couple of says list goes on and on. Saint Peter's doesn't necessarily have that one star player but they just get contributions from a little bit of everyone a number. I own a lesson. These teams late. They weren't able to really do a great job of being able to take care of the ball. Because in that game you had twenty turnovers for my own. Ah is eighteen. Sometimes they go a little bit too fast for their own good and then when they slow things down they just appear to be other element. I contribute that a lot too coaching. In general I ain't Peter's going to be able to take it to Iona once again on a tight line art conference USA here and this is easily the weirdest of the conference tournaments two games going on at the same time as far as eastern Time Start Times go seven seven thirty nine thirty and ten. This is a football practice. Facility Games going on court a court be at the same time and as crazy as it is the lines for tonight's. Game Old Dominion minus two and a half over. Fau F. I. Four international minus two against Rice. Uab minus two and a half against UTSA MARSHALL MINUS TWO AND A HALF AGAINST UTAH. So all of these games virtually lined in the same range. Two Games going on at the same time I mean. Is this one of the harder conference tournaments for you to handicap. But at the same time we've seen it time and time again from this conference alike. These teams are seeing this for the first time ever and what I think is so fascinating is that you often have seen a lot of upsets in this conference tournament because we remember. Middle Tennessee looks like they were going to be representing confrontational say in the NCAA tournament. A few years ago they wind up losing because it was just a strange situation. In general I think that was back in the two thousand seventeen eighteen season which a loss to Mississippi southern miss as about a ten point favorite. So I do think that this helps out the underdog a little bit just because there is a lot of chaos going around that I did think that this is going to be a very interesting to say the least and sometimes when you go a little bit more up Temple Bryant maybe just taste a little bit more out of the other team in general as just because there is a whole lot going on and when you add in there the element of being go very fast. It can leave the other team a little bit of disarray. So speaking of these four games like I said Florida Atlantic Old Dominion Rice. Fau UTSA UAB. You tap and Marshall I know you play Sidon toll on every game you see that you don't necessarily like one game more than another but is there kind of a game or two here in conference you tonight that you really had your eye on. I have my eye on all four. I WANNA blame the points with old. Dominion laid the points at Florida international wound up taking the money line and I was looking at you tap at first but this is a youtube team that it looks like about half. They're team is banged up right. Now they're playing with a bunch of guys that they're not at honored percents going up against the Marshall Team which they do a great job of being a pickpocket so I wanted to take three of the four favorites in the spot. Deputies Certainly Abrasive Williams who does a good job but with that said when you're going out and forget Marshall Team that does one of the best jobs in the country being able to generate turnovers with that short of a rotation right now. They've been going about the situation all right so we go to. The Sun Belt Conference here were the quarter-finals remain on campus sites beginning Saturday. The tournament shifts to New Orleans to play at the smoothie King Center which is where the New Orleans. Pelicans play but we're on campus sites and so far four pretty competitive game series in this conference tournament. Louisiana beat Arkansas State by seven Coastal Carolina with an upset over. Ut Arlington by point Georgia southern beat Louisiana Point and then Appalachian State beating Coastal Carolina on Monday night. So we get five four six three in kind of a roundabout sort of way here though Georgia southern on the road at Georgia state tonight Georgia state laying five. I happen to like Georgia state to win this conference tournament. Actually what do you think about their chances tonight? I think this is going to be interesting because I want to play in the points. Here would Georgia's say the air coming off laws? These two teams laid the baker for George Status. Just being able to hold on the glass. We sell them the NCW Term Advisor. Obviously they underwent day. Coaching change during the offseason lies ear. But what Georgia's state will you've got is a lot of veteran leadership at the back and that starts with Game Williams together. It's able to give you right route. Four and a half assists fourteen points per game. I like what he's able to bring to his able ever Georgia's southern with regards to three point shooting rate. The percentage of your shots that you take for three one of the ones that are teams out there in college basketball. And this is a Georgia's other deem that they've been playing just amidst mash of different siles. Maybe they will get you seventy five. Plus in each other is for games but prior to that they had been downshifting. I feel like Georgia state is actually going to be out for vengeance spot being that. They are playing on their home campus. I think that is big as well and the key for Georgia state is just being able to see a couple of those. Three's going to the basket because this team that I feel like there are the most hot and cold out there in the sunbelt but I do like what they've done. What bringing Quarry Allen off the bench? And he's been able to give the seems absolve production Texas seven point favorite over Appalachian State here in the other quarter-finals match up and in fact Texas state as a three seed was the conference tournament favourite. Here so what do you think about the Bob Cats laying touchdown this evening? I think that the Bob Gates every chance to be a win. This game outright. No question I felt like seven was a little bit too. I at five. I would probably been in on the Bob Cats with Appalachian State. This is a team that actually is getting a little bit of something out of the back court. You got the fact that just enforce has been able to give the same right in the neighborhood of about seventeen or so points per game. But how about the way that Isaac Johnson has been performing down low for the year? He gives a team a little bit over seventy bus. The Texas state team that they aren't going to be a match up with that you do have a guy in Isaiah's fall that's able to give you six Africa bouts for game but with Johnson as well this guy that is coming off scoring at least thirteen points in each other teams lights four games. He's had templates rebounds in throughout those far as well as good job will be able to say out of trouble with him being able to control the pain in a game that I think is going to be slowed down because Texas eight. There were one of the best teams with the defensive efficiency that you're gonna find in a mid major that. Appalachian state should be able to hold on this game. One last thing. I want to ask you about with regards to the Sunbelt here. The semifinals on Saturday. We don't know who little rock and South Alabama will be playing what we do know that Little Rock and South Alabama. We'll be coming off of an eleven day layoff. That's a long time not to play in college basketball especially not around a holiday or anything like that. Does that worry you about Little Rock and South Alabama? On Saturday it does low put. The big thing is the total because I still remember. I think it was two years ago. The Sun Bowl final was a game in which neither team got the fifty points. I think a big result of that is because you did have such a big layoff. You had a bunch of teams that they were not necessarily fresh keep buying the sun bowl tournament wandered starting last week for some of these teams as well. I mean athletic as very had a game under their belt along with Georgia southern so I think that just these long layouts in general effect these teams I in fact some a little bit of both ways obviously did longer layoff is going to give you a little bit more of a buffer period. But with that said I do think that this is a spot in which both these teams are going to be affected quite a bit and I think it does lend itself to a little bit more of it under fest are we had several teams punch their tickets to the NC double A. Tournament last night. One team will do it tonight. Outside taking away the bubble teams but one team will win an auto bid tonight that one coming from the Patriot League Boston University takes on Colgate. This one on campus in the championship game and Colgate is a seven point favorite tonight. Do they win the bid and do they cover the number? I think that colgate should be able to win. This game outright. I just can't wind up playing this many points. This is Boston University team. That Walter White. No not the guy from breaking bad but rather someone that has been playing some of them as best basketball ear at least ten points in now. Eight other teams is engaged. Maxwell Honi arguably one of the best low post presence that you're GonNa find in college basketball with regards to the Patriot. Sable team fifteen point seven rebounds. I like the way the easiest hold up now. At Basel University you do have some free throw wolves both colgate. Yvan rival just as OP shooting threes way. They did last year last year at right around six foot nine. Six for ten shot over forty percent from three this year that has shrunk by over ten percent. I do think that this is which university a team that has given up seventy one points or fewer in one of their games ever since the beginning of February is GONNA slow this game down. You're GONNA keep themselves. I don't think they're going to be a blow it off outright. Because they're free throw. Shooting is not necessarily the best but I think that seven is a little bit too rich for my blood here in what is going to be a game that decides who goes to the NCAA tournament. Greg Peterson who you can hear on Visa and and in the hoop and with hoops. Podcast Greg. What's the best way for people to find everything that you do right on twitter at forty one? I post the late to the PODCASTS everyday and for the hoops fi guests. You find that. An apple podcast. Google Blade spotify. Stitcher attitude answering. Just search hooper with hoops and hooping spelled H. O. P. I. N. Is Up on all those lifeforms breakdown inside a total on every single college basketball game every single day. Greg always a pleasure man. Thanks for helping me out with this Wednesday night card. We certainly appreciate your segments. And we'll talk to you next week. Always a pleasure. Thank you there you go. There's Greg Petersen once again of Visa and the Hoop and with podcast at G unit underscore eighty-one on twitter.

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Hour 3: Freddie Coleman & Calls

The Paul Finebaum Show

39:57 min | 3 months ago

Hour 3: Freddie Coleman & Calls

"Is your money, not sure what to do with itself right now at ally, they'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools, bucket your money for the things that matter most analyzer spending and save automatically all on top of a competitive rate for all things money. You deserve an ally. Visit A. L. Y. dot com slash savings for more INFO ally. Do it right ally bank member, FDIC. Cried Passion and Patron Torri of college. Football leaves here the. Paul Finebaum show our three podcast. Walked me back second. Half the program is live and underway. It's been pretty pretty busy so far by the way there is a pretty big news out today WELP repenting on. Your view of things, but the Ivy League. Has. Put off all fall sports activity that includes. Not only football but I'm sure crew and. Whatever else they do, at Harvard Yale Princeton they did not say today they will definitely play in the spring, but they did indicate that they will revisit the issue at some point down the road. I'm sure as the. The semester comes to an end about by putting off all sports. I guess I. Would I guess that would include basketball until the end of the year there are there are basketball games and I think in fact. Alabama was playing Yale. Sometime in the early part of the year so That is a big story. What does it mean? That's a question that people are not sure about It's going to send out a signal that the IVY. League is far more concerned about safety. and wallet is not does not directly correlate to. The others What are the optics going to look like for the rest of? intercollegiate athletics we'll continue with that with guests and more of your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four two. Seven. Two eight five. Let's check in with Paul next. Hey Paul great to have you on. Hey Bob. How're you doing? We're well, thank you. And I was just GonNa. Ask You What are you GonNa your opinion on? I guess the lack of response from a everybody onto Sean Jackson's comments. I don't know if you're familiar with that is A. INSTAGRAM Post. You did the other day. Some really antisemitic material that he posted and At the very end of it i. mean it even said Hitler was right and I was just wanted to get your opinion, and I must say it's been covered not much ear, but I know it's been covered. on the morning shows I've seen a lottery I have not. I have not I mean I'm just kind of weird to say I. Haven't paid much attention because I. really don't care what he thinks about anything But and I, don't mean that because I, I don't I? Don't really I mean he's just another athlete. like a million other athletes who have who have opinions and it's obviously a fairly uneducated. When I did read today where he met with the owner of the team and he has apologized like everyone does when they say in post. Silly things I know a lot of people are upset about it though. Yeah I mean I think the the more disturbing thing to me is just lack of response. Mother athletes compared to yeah. Responded to the situation, and it just it seems very hypocritical to me, I had to get very or anything, but it just no. I think you're you have a fair point and I think this is one case when. There is a lack of outrage whether it's real or not. In drew brees, case by the way a guy who. Even though I personally and you probably agree, made a terribly ill time comment considering where we were. It's a guy. A Guy that had well earned a mistake. I mean considering what he has contributed to society. Paul before we let you go I'm just going to tell you. This is the first time ever listen to your show years man. Just cause work and everything but The first time I called in it was back in two thousand eleven was a freshman in Alabama and It was the week four outbound play, Tennessee. And we had it was a big game against Lsu. Game of the century was the week after. And you had installing zone and I call the and Asked what you thought about the possibility of You know if I guess I was looking at for Lsu game. And asked what you thought would happen if Alabama and unless you played a close game, the loser of that game. Could possibly meet the National Championship. They continue to go undefeated. which is of course what happened? But Mr stollings didn't like that too much. He was upset with me because I was looking past Tennessee and that was. Funny Little Memory. That's money, but he you talk about I mean he was the personification of the old school I haven't talked to coach in a while. would be a really good idea to check in with him Having. Evan, the big man get upset with me like that, but yeah, about having been at the other end of that was coach many times. I mean he could do it in in a way that I mean you I mean you. You really did not know what hit you. Slice your arm off. I. I. Fall I appreciate your man. Oh thank you. You're probably time to go to Alabama. Appreciate the call and. I bet so the story. Is this the Ivy League Story They have They're the I d. one conferences suspend football. They won't be the last so their president's essentially. Put All sports on hold into at least January. we're talking football, basketball, cross country and sailing of course. and. the asked. This according to the New York Times asked if about the prospect to play football in the spring. Princeton coach Bob Cereso said one word hope. It's not guaranteed They are hopeful and That is where they are yeah I I, think a lot of people are going to interpret this. In in different ways I know the arrogant approach is who cares what the Ivy League thanks, but I would not say that's I think I think it's important. I mean we're I? Know this is not the Patriot league. It's the Ivy League and it's it's not. It's not the they play there. It is schools that are involved in A. It's interesting. Remember I'll never forget sitting in studio on that Tuesday. And we we, we read the story that the Ivy League had canceled its basketball season. It's is basketball tournament and there was outrage. players were upset. Everyone was upset and two days later. The entire sportsworld had been shutdown. Scott is up next in Texas got. Hey Paul. How are you doing, man? We're doing great. Thank you. So I had a comment. You know going back into this college football and You know NFL and what? We're. GonNa do this season. Everybody keeps throwing around these different ideas we keep talking about and everybody keeps talking about it and one thing I was. Thinking about this actually suggested this a long time ago, even before this corona virus thing. was just space the Games out. Every two weeks put. Let's take a car NFL DO AFC on odd number weeks. NFC on even number weeks. And that way you get two weeks in between now. If there's any quarantining or anything these to happen now, people have their time to take care. Do what they need to do. Sanitize the stadiums. Do whatever you have a home game two weeks almost four weeks later. You have an away. Game seems like 'cause. You're only playing every two weeks and now. Playoff ballgames, everything ends up dragging out the season. For another you know, let's say thirty two weeks which promotes NFL and college fans. They want more football. They you know come December January. People get depressed when football starting to wrap up well, this may be an opportunity now to space things out players now he'll better, because now they have a little bit more time in between gains to rest you can actually you know what say after Corona? Virus the NFL decide. DECIDE THEY WANNA put a a whole division in Europe. Well now you've got two weeks between games. They can actually travel around and do things. You don't need by weeks anymore. You don't need preseason games, and now we can have super bowl in May when it's beautiful, outside and most of the country, and not having to worry about having a super bowl in New York in February where it sucks, and you know the weather's terrible, and it's raining I, just think. There's a lot better ways to do this and said it's everybody's trying to cram it into the first three months in the fall and trying to figure out what we can do. Actually. My opinion, well it it. It's a pretty good one by the way and Yeah I, I will, I'll take that question and. I'll ask some people about it's got I never thought of it but it's a really good idea. Thanks man. How often listen to some comments back? You got to hear from you. Let's check in with. William in in Alabama Birmingham had. Hey Paul! Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know if you've discussed this or mentioned. Eh yesterday's news, but the University of Alabama has suspended paper ticket. We they are going to A. mobile smartphone system April is no contact. And You know it's the end of an era at least for me, when I was a kid. I was fortunate enough to go to a lot of Alabama game. father got season tickets got a lot of paper tickets and I held onto those their keepsakes loved them. And as I got older, especially when I got into college and a little bit after college. If, the ticket was out of my price range I found it. A convenient to use those old paper tickets and go to the upper deck gates, and usually at twenty dollars handshake would give me in the upper deck. And so that's the end of an era for me. I that's not available anymore so I feel safe till this story because That's not going to be able anymore so that is you ever realize that's amazing? That's really you, know I I. I like you I. Still have tickets from countless games concerts I. mean those are such a big part of just throwing on the desk and five years later you know, have your wife say? Is there some reason why you're saving that ticket? Off Yes. Exactly and I got the idea from my father who grew up in Birmingham, and with the Legion Phil Gang, kid and he said you know sometimes they weren't able to get into a game. They would do that so I tested my luck and I never got turned away. Even the another caller mentioned the game of the Century for eleven I got ten people into that game using that little trick I even my father used a Alabama baseball tickets to get into that game. You know, attend our handshakes. I will miss those days, but you know we gotta do? We gotta move forward with football of this there. Hey. Thank you for sharing that. Great Story. Really did appreciate. We're up against a break. Freddie Coleman from a ESPN will join US next, and we'll continue having the conversation with you after that. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Hello! This is your apartment I? Need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters and car insurance with GEICO save money, and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day? I need to catch up on my soaps. GEICO for bundling made easy. Go to GEICO DOT COM today. GEICO gets you access to licensed agents. Twenty four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you, like your mom when you fill out really really important paperwork on the first day of a new job. Check birthday social security thing. Hey, mom, what is my social security number? Mom, mom I'm okay, let's. Zero zero one seven Gemini Ashtec Done Geico always there for you. With savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents work every you back in our next guest. One of the first people I met even before i. Came up here to ESPN. Coleman, who was co host of Freddie and Fitz on ESPN radio and Freddie. I don't know where the time goes but We so great to have you back on the program. Good afternoon. Paul. It's funny. You mentioned that because I was talking about that with my wife Denise today and I said goodness, and I've known each other for more than a minute, and it seems like just yesterday when you had a chance to have their first official meeting and we talked like we have been friends for years, so it's always good to catch up with you. My man well. I feel like I. Don't I'm out of there we're just bumping into different hours, but so great to have you in and I I want to ask you if somebody who's done radio ESPN and a lot of places for a long time where we are now four months into this. utterly bizarre period in our lives What's it been like for? You? especially on the air well. Personally I think it's a great description. You use utterly bizarre because that's not just a sports, radio or sports thing, but definitely in everyday life sort of thing where so many things have been turned topsy turvy, because of corona vice pandemic, but the one thing we always talked about without show. Is that even though live sports aren't going on? That does not mean that sports stores now going to be out there that we can't sink our teeth into, so we've been. been able to do that and try to not try to provide live entertainment, of course, also maybe not having a sport aspect to everything, but at least we're giving people something to hold out hope that when buys sports comeback. It won't retard our progress regarding sports or keep us further back than we already are, but it has definitely been utterly bazaar time. There's no doubt about that, but if anything, the creative juices have been able to come out even further and further because you have to be more than ever before with these things that are going on right now. In. Friday, we we we, we're. We're two three months into the the pandemic, and then another little literally mind boggling story occurs with. George Floyd at You know by itself it. It's one of the you know the most epic stories of our times but it, but it also moves into the sports world with so much reaction I'm really interested in in the approach to that, and and and what you've seen and heard. And how do you feel about it? Well? One of the things we talked about that we have to say. The days of sticking. The sports are probably over because so many athletes, and even so many coaches of school administrators. They were not just stay silent on the sidelines and believe me. I completely understand how some people are going to be out there to say you know. Why can't we just leave one over there and Lee? Sports over here or an athletes are having their voice. Voice and not just restricting their voices, restricting their emotions about what's going on in society, whatever issues are out there? You can't just turn a blind eye to that now you have to find balance. Of course you have to find the right way to approach it and certain things that you can't go near because they're going to go beyond the Pale, you have to stay away. Away from, but when you have primetime athletes, no matter what sport they play, no matter what discipline part of Paul speaking out on these things you have the Mike Gundy into the help with the Oklahoma state head coach, or drew brees, saints quarterback. You can't just turn a blind eye to those things because plenty of people talking about those situations that are happening involving other college. College Athletes College coaches, pro athletes and coaches, so finding that balance has been really really hard, because there's a certain line that you can get to, but you better not cross that line, because then you take it to a different level once you're able to stay there and give people your most. How you feel about things they can talk about sports and issues and sports. Continue to blur those lives more than ever before. Talking to Freddie Coleman and and Freddie you. You've been in this industry at a really high level for a considerably long period of time, and there's a lot of conversation going on today. I think because of the. Earlier in the day from we're, we're we're you sit on ESPN radio and I am wondering because it. Longevity in any industry is extremely difficult, especially now What do you think? For especially young people listening who who want to get into this business, what do you think are some of the keys and important things about staying in a job As long as you have well, you're somebody that I will use an example because I. Tell people all the time Paul. Finebaum was the first Paul Finebaum. He wasn't trying to be the second Howard cosell he wasn't trying to. To be the second Verne Lundquist he was going to be the first tem, and that's what I always tell. Young people all the time I wanNA break into our business. Whoever you are whatever you're going to be, then you be that first person you'd be that, I someone from that standpoint. It's very easy to be influenced by the Steven Naismith of the world and the Paul Finebaum. Cal Calva. Calva or going back to our time, the Chris singles and the curb galleries, and the keep Jackson's, but they were the first themselves. They want to be like somebody else. And I think that's a key to any kind of longevity. Yeah, you have to have the talent and the know how and also people want to listen to your content. There's no doubt about it, but anytime somebody tunes into. Into loosening eupol their Guinea Paul finebaum anytime. Somebody listen to listen to me. They're getting Freddie Coleman. They're not getting the second someone else. And I think it's hard more than ever. Before the Stop. Being influenced by people and not have that line of thinking of influence thought process. If you're going to be the first year, you find it what I is, and you stay through that you stay. Stay on that that soapbox standpoint, if you try to be the second somebody else, then, people can be able to see through that and they're gonNA. Turn their attention to someone else, and if that happens, that's the last thing you need. Because it's very hard to overcome. You're trying to be so nobody else. Instead of trying to be the best you no matter. How are you going to be in this business? The word authentic always gets thrown around by our bosses. We want you to be authentic you, you just go, be authentic, and you're someone really I mean from the first time I heard you. But it's getting a little trickier these days to be yourself because there. There's so many critics out there there. There's so much toxicity on social media I mean. Do you pay attention to what people say about you not at all? Here's why Paul because if you weren't. If you want doing really well in your profession, paying attention to you, people don't criticize nobody's. I've yet to see. See that whether it's been social media or even long before social media came along. If somebody's doing a saying something, that's having an impact then you're going to get that kind of reaction. What's the old line from an athlete? They don't nobody's Paul Finebaum. Nobody Freddie Coleman nobody, so if anybody's going to take us to task, because they disagree with something that we have to say or they think. Think that we don't know we're about I'm all well and good with that. Because Boston or not, they keep coming back for more to listen to see exactly what they can disagree with, but if you if we were nobody's, we've been beginning any kind of attention. We would not be getting any flack from anybody out there. No matter what kind of social media platform that they're going to take. Take us the task with so something like that doesn't bother me because if I if I've gotten under your skin. If I've got on your nerves that you feel the need to go to social media and try to rape me over the coals, but I must be doing something pretty pretty good with my presentation radio program night after night. Freddie Coleman, joining US ready any we have. Here we are in July and Sports is hopefully we're hopeful it's about to get back to in gear and I know you want it. We all wanted, but I am I. AM interested in your thoughts on. on this March back because it, it's happening in Orlando happening really around the country right now, and we talk a lot about college football, which is going to come a little bit later, but What are your general thoughts on where we are? I mean I wonder exactly where we are appalled. Because mean look at Stanford today. They'RE GONNA eliminate. Thirty six Voss, these sports at the twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty one academic year. You have the Ivy League announcing mere minutes ago that they're not gonNA. Have a fall football season that not only affects their conference, but also Patriot League schools that are going to play against them. Northeast Conference schools that play against Ivy League opponents so I. Don't think anybody knows exactly where we are. We know where we want to be. Because we know how important college football and really football is going to be for I'll fall, but there's. There's going to have to be an adjustment period because there's going to be a different kind of season. That's going to happen. Cursory, said on our show about three months ago and people took him to task saying how can you say that? There may not be college football in the fall well now that steering us in the face because we're getting closer to the middle of July and the next thing you know Paul also off is going to roll around what we're in the same boat then that we are. are in now than what kind of decisions are going to have to be made in terms of maybe moving college football further into October only having a conference only season, maybe two college football season next year when it comes to spring and the fall right now we don't have any answers because the question is still out there that don't have answers to them. In terms of concrete answer, exactly what kind of fall we're going to have when it comes to college football and what kind of football football that we're going? Going to see especially in this country in front of you, said something really interesting it was. It wasn't march when when we're. Kirk, said what he did to you and I was being interviewed by a reporter day, and he he actually drew a line to that moment as what changed everything. Nobody wanted to say anything negative after that so everybody just say yeah, we're going to have a season. I don't care how we do it. Because herbstreet I'm still not sure he's come up for air, he. WELL HE I don't know if he's coming for hair, but at the same time he back away from that because I'm so very very easy to say that that was taken out of context Paul. He didn't do that at all. He said you know this is what I believe in. Here's why he had so many different example the why he believed that we really be careful in terms with covert nineteen, and how this really affect the fact that we may not have college football in the fall, so many people want to speak into exist and believe me. You and I know exactly where those people are coming from because we WANNA. We WanNA, make sure that this spoken into existence when it comes to football, but we can't ignore the fact that Em- plenty of states that have football that believe in football whether it's Florida or Texas or Georgia South Carolina Kobe nineteen, von Corona vars case are increasing each and every day, and so now we're going to ask our young men, and really in any other sports, all young women to go out there and be on the front lines and risk their health for. For the expensive. College football I don't think a lot of parents to sign off on that, and that's why Kirk herbstreet. He's been able to come up from air because more and more each and every day. We're starting to see signs of Man. We're GONNA have a different kind of season, or we may have to face the fact that may not be fall fall football, no matter where it is in college football, no matter what division. It's going to be when that standpoint. Be careful front of you're speaking truth here today. I tell my wife all the time Paul. The truth is never terrible. No matter how you deliver it and believe me kirks Kirsty say. Completely completely wrong. He didn't say that I'm hoping to be right. He didn't want to be one to be right, but he also very schooling us. In terms of hey, we got to prepare for this possible reality that this could be a reality when it comes to football twenty twenty in the fall. Well I I. Never coming on look for hopefully look forward to seeing anyone, but especially you in the coming months Freddie. be well. Take Care Yourself and be safe to my. On. You always continue to be while do a great job. My brother Oh. That's so great. Thanks for coming on Freddie Freddie Coleman ESPN host and we are going to take a break more of your phone calls when we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We'll be back in Mitch's up next in South, Carolina Hello Mitch is your money, not sure what to do with itself right now at ally, they'll help it save for the future with their smart savings tools. Bucket your money for the things that matter most analyze you're spending and save automatically all on top of a competitive rate for all things money. You deserve an ally. Visit a Y. dot com slash savings for more INFO ally. Do it right ally bank member FDIC. In found on our you today I am well. Thank you very much. I. Know You get tired of hearing that question. But Way. Please let me finish my statement before you hang up on me. I have to tell you. How much or show means to me in my life. And I. Hope You really take it to heart that I. Mean what I'm saying. Yesterday I called and I. You and I answered about the the guy who had three presidents top three whatever. You were so kind to let him come back and rebut. In my lifetime. I've told you about my life growing up in desert, often in Jerusalem and There have been three personalities that I. Would not miss and you I know you know. Leonard Losers. The radio when he would pick. Football Games every weekend. I would not miss him when I was in work in children's home. My listened to all his picks every week. We've go. On vacation. To buy little family. You have every now and then and. And My grandmother listened to Paul Harvey. So I sit and listen to Paul Harvey every day when I was at Grandma's. and. I make a point to listen to you. I get off the three thirty. And if I'm not in my car. Listening to the series, I come home and I pull up ninety four point five jocks. In Alabama. On My. Laptop if you're not on TV. You and So much of my life I. Know I'm GonNa Laugh. Dear show. I. Know Probably won't get mad, do yourself? I know probably thanks. Someone's crazy during your show. But I'm going up be. A better person acting your show. And I. Just hope you know. There are a lot of people out there live meeting. Love Your Show in love you. I tell you what Mitch I can't thank you enough for those words and like you I as you were talking about lenders losers, I remember back being as a kid listening to that show and talking to once or twice later on, but Paul Harvey. maybe maybe the greatest radio broadcaster ever. Grandmother loved it yeah. I used to show a news talk station, and I'm pretty sure right in the middle of the show. Every day we at five o'clock we had to stop or five fifteen, and listened to his rest of the story or whatever he did. Those US along with those tube and I'll take and another name in there, even though I don't think he ever had a full-time radio, so. Lewis crews are. Well Louis Resort. To me is is one. If Lewis Grizzard had come along a little bit later i? mean he would have literally been bigger than life I mean. He stole was incredibly big but you know. He started in and I. Told story by getting to know him. I mean. He was funnier off the air, and then he was in his newspaper column, and he was just a hell, ilaria Guy He did comedy for a while and I used to. I I got all, I used to listen to his tapes. driving driving home to see. My Mom many many years ago I? mean he was, he was absolutely. And some of it was real life he was. He was married I. Don't know four or five times and he. said that people have always asked me I've always felt like the one of the problems in my career, had a somewhat normal upbringing and I'm only been married once, and all the great is somewhat out the window because Johnny Carson made a career out of being married three or four times. You have a lot of humor in you have, but let me I. Share One thing with you and I'm GonNa let you go. You know have tears that I'm. CLEMSON has stick my chest out and I love it. When I was in the seventh grade. I wrote Danny for the letter. And asked him to adopt me. Oh, my goodness. I'm serious ideas. You can I'm sure you know him. Ask Him. And I have never once heard him tell that story, but what he did was semi social worker a letter he really he did, and he he, he said he said I have three children I came down. I wouldn't by the name skip back there, but I would love to have him. Come to my football camp for two weeks. And so for two weeks three, I think three. You're three years in a row. I gotta go to his football camp for free. And I would go up there and I met William. Perry my gap Louis. That's. How far back I went but I have never once heard him. Tell that story in you know. People don't realize depths kind of David Ford was. That is I. I've known Danny over the years Ask Him to be able to get a letter for somebody asking them to adopt well. No I that is well. I have to tell you I to. I. Want to close by saying I can't tell you how much this call means. And and I and there are some like any job. You have a job. I have a job I mean some days you'd literally shake your head. and You wonder. What you're doing in. Are you doing the right thing when when a call like this comes in it It makes it worth it. and I can't thank you enough for for saying what you did, please. Especially for a Clinton Fan. I. Going to listen to those two. Panel, Don't even know their names, but. I'm not listening to you. Well I'm I'm sure they mean well, but I'm I think you're in good shape over here. I think I'm in wonderful hands, and if if I'm saying this, you can bet ten people are saying the same thing. So your loved very much. Thank you, thank you I. I would certainly hope one of these days. When this all ends I I'd love to meet you and have a have a long conversation. You'd be well my friend. Thank you thank you so much. We will take a short break back with much. You're listening to the Paul. FINEBAUM show podcast. For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How. They burn from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBKR DOT com slash smart to learn more. Welcome back. As we work our way through the third hour of our show. Ramsey is up next. Hey Ramsey. Ramsey thanks go right ahead. Man I was the. Only, get your take on this whole. idly can't. Their football season and to see what What do you think it means for the rest of college football and you say we'll follow suit. Didn't basketball when you know? Everybody canceled their conference tournament after Ivy League or Does it not really hold any bearing because I mean I know. Bama Fan I know everything and TESCO loose. really depends on all season. There's a lot of a lot of money to be made or loss just wanted to kind of get your take on it. Yeah I. Think it really I think it puts a lot of pressure on everyone to explain better what what they're doing, and and and I really and the one thing I haven't heard from. The Ivy is exactly or specifically. You know what went into their thinking I'm sure we'll find that out as the day goes on, but. It's not it's not the most critical move, but it does it does. It does force a lot of people to ask questions and I I mean I've heard numbers that have not been released from various places in the country. And they're pretty high. And at some point college football is going to have to accept. We are going forward at some risk and liability or not, and I don't think they've made that decision. Yeah I mean you think about it, too? It's gotta come soon because you gotta have. You gotTa have a fall camp. You can't these guys out there all one week of practice you know and just start playing the season so I. Mean Yeah, you're right. Answers gotTA start coming and they gotta come soon and. Hopefully, we'll get them. You know so 'cause. I know I know myself. I don't want anybody to get sick or anything like that, but. Man I look forward to football the problem the problem right now for college football, A and I agree with you on that Ramsey. It's. I mean they're fighting. They're fighting the news every day and and you know nobody can predict. A month from today, but I do think it's a safe bet that over the two to three weeks, the numbers around the country at least in terms of positive cases are going to continue to go up now the now the one thing that That some people are saying and it's accurate. As of today, the death rates have stayed low now if they say low. It's good. If, if they don't then it's A. It's a really bad sign. All right Paul well man I really. Thank you enjoy listening to your show you have you got nicely to call I really do appreciate it, Jason is up next. Hey Jason. Hey Paul so I was listening to a podcast today and sports illustrated. It has a Michigan site called Michigan. Digest and Michael Staff. Get a report We're GONNA. Paraphrase it here if you give me a second. It was dated on the fifth of July. Basically what it says is the Washington and Arkansas. State Games are already gone. And they're looking at a possibly home in away scheduled for some of their team. The teams already listed on their schedule. If that's not worked out. THAN ANY team. With a distance dried, say Maryland rutgers. possibly Minnesota will be gone. And there's also reports of three to four big ten teams have already made the decision. Their season is done. The only reason they have not made the announced his because it's still July so the waiting for the last minute. And also no one wants to be the first recruit because of recruiting NTR right. Yeah I read that I read I read i. read some snippets from that podcast in the there was an article in you. You know it's really interesting I believe it. I think singer worse than people, WanNa make it out to be and you know what happened today a significant, but if you see big ten school analysis, we're we're done. That is really going to send a chilling effect around the country. Well one more one more thing before I go here, the one thing that really caught. My is where you just talking about how they could do it. And basically they've said is put everyone quiet, you know. social learning. You know you know online learning and stuff like that. But you know. They said that they're even talking like. If you go out in the open and go through the town stuff like that they're going to. Suspend people from score even possibly spelled them. All that far for what I'm willing to. Go after the season means a lot, but to me I. Don't think it means that much. Yeah, and and you know we always have to remember. We are We're here on a sports show. and. By the way, let me let me as let me let me read a statement. We just now are getting some information from the Ivy League and they issued a statement. Here a moment ago, Jason. and. Let me, call it up here as it says as a leadership group. We have a responsibility to make decisions. That are in the best interest of the students who attend our institutions as well as the faculty and staff who work at our schools. These decisions are extremely difficult particularly. When they impact meaningful student athlete experiences that so many value in cherish. With the information available to us today, regarding the continued spread of the virus, we simply do not believe we can create an maintain an environment for intercollegiate athletic competition that meets our requirement for safety. And acceptable levels of risk consistent with the policies that each of our schools is adopting as part of the reopening plans this fall, which raises the question for every other league whether it's the the SEC the big ten. The PAC twelve, and and and the and the big in the ACC. What what what what? How what are you see that they don't see? I mean to me. This is too big of a monster to get control the NBA is you know obviously with the bubble? It's a little bit easier NHL bubble of easier. To me, this is way too big of a month during what people are forgetting also as. Fourth of July was supposedly bad enough of course for you the numbers the next couple of weeks. But. We got another one coming up and that's Labor Day. No, you're right. I mean. This thing goes day to day and by the way I if I'm the commissioner of the big ten or the SEC. I don't have to make a decision today, but I promise you. They're not happy with that statement right there. That's a that's a guarantee. 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169: Speaking Into The Heart of a Woman with GS Youngblood

Hearts Unleashed

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169: Speaking Into The Heart of a Woman with GS Youngblood

"All right, and welcome to the. podcast where we are turning dreamers into doers, you guys I am very excited to have another author on the podcast. We are in a jam out on some book topics around something that I know you guys love talking about masculinity. We are talking to G S Youngblood who coaches men in relationships on how to live love and lead from the masculine core. He specializes in Nice guys who are with strong women so. I'm really excited to talk to you about all these topics. That's kind of an evil laugh Alagoas. Love it. 'cause you. This is this stuff I really love talking about and I know that our listeners really eat up understanding more about the masculine and feminine. Especially, you know a little further back I recorded one about the wounded masculine and the he'll masculine feminine. So it has so many downloads. I know that this topic is so relevant for our peeps and so his teachings combined deep embodiment work with the framework of the masculine blueprint from his book masculine in relationship, the masculine in relationship, and so gs tell us a little bit about your book and your, Author Journey Well Abigail live in a world. That has to deal with the reality that. Have perpetuated a patriarchal order up things for thousands of years, misogyny control, and all those things and I'm not condemning men not a bad nothing mode. What I'm saying that's what happened and now we're dealing with that and it's all goodness. There's a dark side because the pendulum has swung really far, and there are so many societal messages to US men about toxic masculinity in our misogyny, and suddenly any expression of masculine energy becomes being a get thrown into the bucket of toxic masculinity and I am not down with that that is not a reflection of the reality that icy problem is the the pendulum has swung. So there's a lot of men who have become. Nice. Guys and I think most people generally understand what I'm talking about Dr Robert Glover wrote the seminal book on Nice guys in what he says Nice guys they give up their needs go along to get along. But underneath there seething seething inside that they feel power. So having that as our context, you don't I saw a lot of men who wanted to be more in their power, but they didn't know how and that's what I'm bringing. To the world with this book, the book is based on my three-part blueprint for what I consider to be a masculine core and you know, let's go over the blueprints when we're ready here. But that's what I'm bringing to the table with something that I felt was very actionable for men really step into their power and I'll tell you you know this is to the men out there like you know when you need this. When, in your mind you're thinking my woman is irritable. She's really critical of me She's not fun as I remember when we met and she's not open to be sexually if you've got one or more of those four traits going on what traits perceptions of your woman right now you probably have a bit of a D. polarized relationship. You're probably not bringing you know enough of your mask energy and here's my experience when you do. A lot of relationship problems magically disappear. It's funny how Yeah. So that's the background abigail of how we got here with this book. Yeah beautiful and A few different things that I really enjoyed obviously how the men are pretty quickly just associate like the Patriot League and were facing times where you know one thing said wrong Lee is just drawn so many conclusions and were were in that place in society period, and so I think that the Patriarchy is one of the best examples of that because it's one of the longest standing like you said, and I also love what you said. That's what happened. It doesn't have to be right or wrong what happened and now what now let's deal and I think that that's such a powerful perspective and a place to come from to resolve or or recalibrate and recreate as opposed to like you know finding blame like there there is there it's futile and so I just really love the way you open that up and share that because something I was also picking up what you were sharing was the way that. You know man this cover up thing. Does, having to hide their perceptions, their feelings, their experiences in order to have a certain persona or especially what we think masculinity is that false perception of masculinity and GotTa talk about that too. Let's put. False forms of. False perceptions he has totally and so I like I would love for you to share the blueprint because what I heard you say was actionable items and something we talk about a lot on here is inspired action and so when you were sharing a could hear like an act from an activated mail like a true male in his masculine energy in essence what how we would see him or what how he would be what he would do and. All of that. So Fleet, please you know start with that blueprint. Let's dig right in. So the blueprint is three parts number one is respond versus react. You know this energy you know especially you at Abigail as a female where you're going to be very intuitive you're gonNA feel it's from across the room he's grounded. In certain ways, there's a stillness about him not that he's motionless, but he there's a certain quality of stillness around him. He chooses how he acts. You know if he. He's going to look to the left look to the right. He's choosing to do that. He's not sort of kind of darting his eyes around the room and react to fashion. In relationship with this person, you can feel it too. They don't withdrawal in times of tension. They don't get as we call it butthurt. Criticizes them and they don't get defensive when they're woman brings to her displeasure. It doesn't mean he acquiesces. That's not what we're saying here what he's not reacting though out of his wounds or self protection it every moment he's choosing how to be and that's that's a really. Attractive way to engage the world. So with my coaching clients, I will number what we work on daily embodiment practices. I want my my clients to do a daily practice and tell them if you don't do a daily practice, I don't know what you do with the wasting your time. One of the number one things that I've been taught and I've also experienced in my own life that makes a difference. So as not to be mysterious about so embodiment practice it's it's it's certain types of breathing. Certain types of meditation, certain types of movie practices, and I've actually designed my own curriculum for really specific masculine practices, and hopefully at the end of the summer, I'll have out my online course which teaches that. But for now, I just do it in my coaching sessions. The first fifteen minutes is that. So we work on embodiment we I work with their emotions. You know, of course, it's a cliche that men are in touch with their emotions but that doesn't mean we want you to become this like sort of emotional flow boy. There was a very. Seen Them. Interstate. Type, and it's like come on man which feed on the ground. Staff anyways, keep going. It's. It's painful. It's you know this is part of the pendulum swinging too far. You know we have to be kind of flowing in emotional. It's like, no, you need to be in touch with your motion. So I get what I consider to be a very masculine lens on the topic of emotions. You know fear anger sadness shame. So those are the main things and. I get them to understand the role of a threat in their life threatening anxiety, and one of the things I read about the book is that anxiety underlies all non masculine painters you just you got any non mask on behavior I could probably find anxiety at the root of it and the alleviation of anxiety men don't like to feel that in. So we go. So that's step one. Before you do anything developing your masculine core, you've got to build a base of grounded this and that really comes down to settling your nervous system. And then everything becomes a lot easier after that. In fact, the rest of the stuff kind of comes naturally once you said nervous system. Okay. So I wanNA speak into what you're sharing because. I a lot of what you're sharing I actually teach about femininity as well. Right relaxing your central nervous system for a woman to be able to send and tap into her intuition. The same way a man consents into their like I I wrote down when you said stillness A woman can sense when a man is assured of himself and sh- ensure and certain rate and and that and like us at choice if they know if they look to the left or the right like there's a command, they have over their sense of self that is like magnetising and and the same for a woman though 'cause I think the the opposite end of that spectrum is that frantic. Or anxious energy, and so you're just I'm hearing Ya picking up which put down and Bongo. And as a woman, Gosh, you guys can feel it in it. Really. It's funny. You probably had experiences like this like maybe you see a man, a coffee shop is you know he's six feet tall and he's got a good build and then you hear him talk. Show. Okay. It's like, why is he? So kind of wimpy quite frankly than you can hear it, you might be able to see it. You don't even have to hear him sometimes you can just see how gestures. or a man that maybe you otherwise wouldn't find attractive he comes in he just locks eyes on you. Like, who are you? You know just something like that where he just he's just own room. Guide it's not very good looking and not very physically imposing you can own the room with this energy. So I always say like men, you don't have to be smarter taller better looking or richer smarter. You actually don't. You can become a lot more attractive to two women or the. Whatever gender going. After. Simply by having this kind of energy yeah I wanna say this an unrefined kind of way like dogs smell fear kid smell bullshit and women's smell weakness. Stuff out there. Are Too high the okay. Dogs and women's sniffer this out. It's apparent and I think obviously I joke about smell but with women who are tapped into their intuition and you know we have of us don't even know we are but we are. So we don't know what we're reading 'cause we don't know how to read energy. But we feel something right and just like you're climbing pain right now. And because the man's not, he's not revealing the emotion. He's actually feeling. He's being you know he's not in his power like, ouch those. Yeah I gotcha. And so for my type A. People because I'm half a one of them is. You said about the blueprint respond and react was there to others too. So it was respond versus reactor rather than any. So, that's the first one we can talk about the second to. So the second one is provide structure. So this is the quality of a man who number one he has clarity for himself on what he wants what he needs, what he prefers an is boundaries and I just say that the guys it's funny I just it's so many examples of the man and they're like, why is my wife always crabby and? And then we go through these examples and it's like, wow, do I don't even know where do you stand like? Where are you? I don't even know what you want in this in any situation where this relationship and the anecdote after anecdote of the men not tapping into what they want. They just advocated and their radar is on Okay Abigail what do you want and I'll give it to you just tell. Me, and of course, you know in every every woman on the call knows at the turnoff. So really have to tap into desire. So that's one of the chapters in the book called desire. It's about tapping into that. That's step one before anything if you don't know what you want, you can't lead others. So from that, then you can start to what I call set direction and provides structures. So set direction is. Well, you can make decisions and be decisive. We don't actually have to be the decision maker you could actually. Again. We'll. Just we'll use an example you know. Where we WANNA go on vacation. You Know Abigail we're going on vacation this year you know ally. There you go. But when I come to you and just ask you where you WANNA go I haven't even stopped to think, okay. What do I WanNa do you know? So instead of asking you what you WanNa do I could come I could go into research on you know Croatia Hawaii and South Africa and I could come up with you know look for flights. What's IT GONNA cost us was cost to stay there. What are some of the cool things will do bring that to you go hey, I'm thinking about vacation here's three options. What do you think baby? and. Hot Fall. Right in. Cures, my position, but I wanna I, WanNa hear how this lands for you of. You make decisions all day long. I. Already got a hit of your energy have gone and you can just things happen in your business. You can do that and you're going to be a little bit more in your masculine energy and that's how I like you then cool. But that's why don't you make in in moments of intimacy that's of course what I mean. So. If I want you to be in that relaxed a little more open, your little more flowing. I've got. My gift to you is to alleviate you from having to make the damn decision you could but you just WanNa have to. So, that's really what we're after here. It's it's all about choice what state do I want my partner and so if I can simplify that, you don't even know the wide world of all choices to contend with you've got three that's a lot easier and of course you might say I don't like any of those. That's that's your prerogative. But I simplified the world for you and that's kind of what we're. After here that's squad which the dynamic or after that feels good to the feminine I I will posit that that feels good too. Yeah. Yeah and I would love to jump in with you there because you're. So it does feel good to the feminine the Feminine. So something that I teach guy I work with mostly women and I explain women are water right and men are the container, the riverbank right yeah. And so women would love to be able to go with the flow and follow the river band and and so man being the structure, the order container, all of those things in like especially like the example that you gave like it kind of felt like a sense of relief. The idea of the man coming with three options that he's already done the research on for a woman I know that that shows effort. On. The males per thought and consideration rate. Even if he's the one, maybe picking the different places, there's so much care put into that to be able to then present something and say like Hey I've thought about something for us and I've prepared something like what and I think. You know speaking to one next level as mother's right or maybe the professional working mom who is decision making? All Day long ragged yes and doesn't want one more question. So like yeah, I liked the way that you said it too was what's the state I want my woman to be in and how can I be the one at cause for that because that's a whole `nother level of responsibility. Yeah. It isn't. This is what men don't realize. They had the power to put their feminine partner into. A relaxed state it's it's by embodying these principles quite frankly that's what we're after here and I think this is one example of being having clarity decisiveness and whatnot. So yeah, men have more power than they think and and that's that's like a message I want for all men you have more power than you think you do stop being a victim yes. Okay. So men have more power than. They think they do. How can they tap into that? We've been talking about that. So I get grounded number to tap into what you want in your desire in where you kind of Orient in the world and then bring your clarity to her, and then you know unlike the old days where it was like we're doing this, you know it was compulsory like, okay hello nineteen fifty years later. Now it's baby. This is what I'd love to do. How does that land for you or how does that work for you like it's that's the magic sentence right there like you come and you show yourself first and then you had the inclusiveness. How does that work for you? She might be a no to it and a man who's in his power will be able to go with the no. It can be with those and the yeses and then he he'd be like Oh. Okay. Well, what about this? You know like he can roll with that and that's to me that's modern masculine feminine write there this is what I would love to do I. Think we should do how does that work for you? That's the magic sense I also love that you add baby to all of it. But you know what I what I really heard. You said modern to and that's I heard like modern partnership. Truly and I just think it's fascinating because I over here is I imagine the women listening would be like, oh, that would be great. So. What would you like to say to our women? Okay. Will it. See I wonder it's should we finish the third part of the blueprint? Let me answer that question because it's it's great. Guy WanNA speak to your audience too because there's a there's something to be said so I'm glad you brought that up. Let me finish the third part and come back to that. Okay. So third parties create safety. Ban I know of no bigger determinant of how opened a woman is to me like the women I date you know how open she is to. Me Is directly related to how much trust and sixty she fills with overall and in that one teeny slice of moment, it can change from a moment but. So trust and safety are everything. So when I write about Crete safety, it's physical financial and emotional safety and Physical I think I'll skip over that. You know there is an element of being a provider which is still relevant even if she's working to your both pervades not about being the only provider, but you have to be some kind of provider in some form. Now, we could go into that but I'd rather put that one. Aside Physical Safety I think speaks for itself. It's not just about you know learning taekwondo and being able to handle a mugger. It's not just about that it can be things like like. A A woman I was dating at one point she lived in San Francisco and so I would actually text her when she drove home after being with me that nights and shoes getting particularly shoes getting one a. m. a text me when you get there I, need to know that you got there. Okay. That's me caring for her physical safety. That's one of about a hundred thousand examples I could give I want pause you right there because I'll tell you I. don't care who admits it or not every woman wants that. And when it's not, it's quite an easy decision to not have a second date. Man. Because, because physical safety issue. So primal and particularly for the women I think most men don't realize this you guys feel way more physically vulnerable than we do just walking down the street even of a major metropolitan city. So yeah physical safety, right. That's the quickest way to the exit door at least one other quick ways. But really what I'm focused mainly on his emotional safety and The Feminine. posit that the feminine is more chaotic than emotionally chaotic. That's fine that Feminine Energy and. So. If. I can't make space for that or hold space for that. You know if I can't validate your feelings, it doesn't mean that I'm agreeing with you doesn't mean that I'm taking the blame for those feelings but I can validate those instead of basically telling you you're crazy. You're not gonNA feel emotionally safe if I don't do things if you don't feel emotionally safe that might be you know that's that's another quick way to the exit, but usually unfortunately, that's the slow-burn. Overtime. You Trust US less and less than if you're married to somebody and then they start trusting you less that's where you get to the loveless marriage. I? mean. It's not the only 'cause obviously but I can tell you it's one of the most common. and. So I the whole chapter fourteen was like my favorite most favorite chapter to right because it talks about. Okay. Here's what you do when you're upset. You know here are the seven steps you can take and look at that big grin on your face that. We need to promote this everywhere, keep going and can you repeat the name of your book in where they can find it at this moment? Sure. It's the book is called the masculine in relationship a blueprint for inspiring the trust devotion of a strong woman. And Amazon of course is the place to buy it. Awesome. Okay. Keep going. Yeah emotional safety, and so I talk about ways to really deal in the first one. Is Empathy and this is one that I don't know maybe. Sounds cliche but for most men don't know how to do empathy. It took me a while to really develop empathy and it was a long process to a long process of learning to go into your feeling by instead of always being political. But. I can sit there and I can say you know you're upset about something whether it's at me or not. You know I can say all these clever words in response and I've heard so many stories of experienced it where the woman just looks at the guy is like I can't feel you. and. All your clever words just fall to the floor that they just bounce right off because you're not feeling her she's upset about something. She wants to feel you feeling how she feels. A little bit circular but you know what I mean. So instead of kind of of rationalizing whites going to be okay or why you shouldn't be mad it's like Oh baby. Damn. Yeah I get that you really pissed about this I mean I was just play acting there. Of course but you you heard my voice drop was a little softer. It was a little slower like those are actually markers of being in your heart and so I actually did so to just in my mind of make up a scenario and kind of Trau- in. In that's that capability for her to feel your response to her. Rather, than just here, the logic of it makes all the difference and men it's like I just try to make it better than if she keeps getting more mad I don't understand. She's crazy. Well it's because she's not feeling you in. You're feeling body. She's feeling on your analytical mind which feels like shit to her she feels alone jiffy unheard, unmet. And uninspired. You're talking about is the woman having the opportunity to feel seen heard, gotten, understood, and You said something to the effect of like the woman you said chaotic and I hear you and that it's us in our heart and in our emotion and then men are sitting up in the head basically most often like you said analyzing or responding, and when I do work with women I sometimes I'll even. Ask, them are like, invite them to Q. There man especially if it's not an empowered relationship or both are not emotionally intelligent or developed, it's like, no, you might need to say, I just need you to your me like I. Don't I don't need to fix but I need to I need to vent I, need to think out loud and so that way that can potentially be reached or matched or. Were you just said, brings us back to the question me of what would I say women whenever you want to circle back to that Well. It very much in line with what you said but it's sort of an adjunct to that we men are very vulnerable to York disappointment. Just going to let that sink in or very vulnerable to your disappointing you of us. A pretty strong power with might not totally realize. and. It's hard for us. You know we're ego bound creatures I deep down we just we want you to be happy like your smile at us is like nutrition. It is like a you know again a cracker after. The desert for forty days, I don't know whatever the analogy is but your smile is like gold us and your disappointment it's like Ooh that's hard to take and it's really crushes us in a lot of ways and the reason I say that is the degree to which you can be true to your heart and share the pain in your heart and even if it's pain caused or not. Without blaming US makes all the difference in the of course, the human tendency is you're in pain and we all lash out at somebody else we WANNA scapegoat that's natural but to the degree that you can give us the cleanest expression of your heart in your paying without really bringing us into the story. That allows us to avoid kind of a disappointment that kinda treats trigger us in. It actually allows us to step in and be the hero which we'd love to be free. By the way you know we'd love to be the hero and be responsive to you. So being a hero in this case means be responsive to whereas if I'm triggered I'm going to be defensive. So you want me to you want me responsive not defensive so. That's what I would recommend women as you know, can you find it in yourself to give the cleanest expression your heart with no toxicity? No shaming no blaming I guarantee. That's a strong word. I'm going to say it anyway. That you're going to be more successful over over time with your man assuming he's. Reasonably. Reasonable Q. So that's my answer to that question again. Yeah and I I would love to I. I. have this natural habit of translating reframing it all that anyway. But like because it was so valuable and I think. You know for women to be able to communicate their needs and communicate their feelings I liked what you said about can you do it without attaching blame on us to us at US right and? My my invitation would be to do our best to remove the narrative. The story story away and communicate this happened. This is the reaction or this is the feeling it triggered in me. Right and this is what I'm blaming you for even even if you can least communicate that and then it takes us right back to your first pillar of react versus respond rate because. What then happens and it's whoever wherever it starts. I use the specific distinctions called fuck. Me Fuck. You. And it's just like it's as pointing game where nobody wins. and. We're all just proving our point and like incredibly ineffective. So let's say we're at the finger pointing game. How can we emerge from that? Well, this is were coachman something I say a few times in the book you may or may not be the problem you are the solution. You got to realize I'm talking to men. So I look man I don't care whose fault it is I don't care who is that asshole? Or. Clumsy. You need the develop a mindset that I'll be the one to lead us out of this. You know not to the exclusion of her I mean she might make that choice to can both do it but like if everybody's GonNa spiraling down I, make the decision as a man who has the man I want to be. That it's my job to lead us out of this, here's what I'm going to do. You know we're spiraling down and you know maybe timeout. We are spiraling down here I want us to call a fifteen minute timeout I'm going to walk outside when I walk around the block, I will be back in fifteen minutes. And then we're going to tell each other two things that we like about each other. and. Then we can continue this fight but I really want to do that baby game. That's again in my world view that's masculine leadership. You know how in the leadership is about, how do I lead us into a better place relational early? And if I can get the guys to develop that mindset that's powerful, and then hopefully the women are going to coach like yourself who's teaching them also leadership skills and then the two of us can do this you know. What a great place to arrive out with like the solution and hitting a pause hitting a reset coming back together acknowledgement right and it actually brings us back to like the very front of the conversation where you said yeah this happened. Now let's deal with it. We don't need to find blame we don't need to analyze. We don't. You know whatever. And deduce a bunch of things like now what how do we wanna be about this and where are we headed? And do we WANNA go together Or. How It it's like what serves the connection between us? Not Our EGOS eight not fears triggers, but what serves the connection between us? The highest priority we acknowledged as such that's that's actually that relationships got a pretty good chance working apps and other factors prioritized the connection between the two of you totally I love that and so. How can people connect with you because I imagine they want to? Well, they can email me that she s at gs Youngblood, dot com, or go to the website obviously GS YOUNG DOT com. And please review the Amazon reviews really helped me men can join my masculine relationship facebook group Then everybody can like either my facebook page or my instagram page and I mentioned I come up on a search over those. But. That's how they can reach out and like if you know if you're a man out there and you need coaching reach out if you're a woman out there who you know you're you know a man or you're in relationship with a man who you feel could tighten up in this area these put them in touch with me. Some and I WANNA ask you a question that's kind of typical to the podcast which would be what does it look like for his heart to be unleashed? Personal. Guess. What would it look like for me to be? Unleashed I do corporate work and I do pursue work and I really liked the I work better. And I think when I decided to make that, make that switch do just more personal work. That I'll be fully in realizing how I wanNA spend every moment of my day and More personally, I amount of a relationship eight months ago and I'm about ready to open myself up to two people. That's counterintuitive thing to say somebody sitting here talking about relationship but for the first time in eight months I feel. There's a lot of love to give. Hope to meet somebody that meets me in all these ways. It's tough. Yeah. I just happened to read about it yesterday. In one of my daily devotional, it was called the inbetween. And the way that it is so healthy because I you know I think it's a very natural habit of ours to exit one and enter another. Dust to fill the void without being willing to experience the void. And to really true. That same pain that that anybody in this situation would feel that grieving the sadness the missing of a person when you boil that down, it's and. It goes back to what I said before like the process that I went through I, spend a Lotta time meditation criminal tell you that. doing the practices that I teach two other men. But in those are the same practices they need winter in relationship. It's a bow tolerating. Eddie in any given moment because I'm fighting with of. Feminine, Partner and. If my anxiety is off the charts I have no capacity no, no depths no capacity. On I can't feel the connection she's not GonNa film either who so these are universal principles whether you're. Exiting relationship entry relationship screwed, and relationship. Yeah. I will say I think that that's a very valuable lesson because when we know meditation or eating well right wellness spirituality, whatever the area might be when things are going good our consistency waivers a little bit and I always like to say a gap in action creates a gap in momentum. You don't see it for a month or so, and so you know what is all this happening? So I think that I love that you speak to the consistency of it and what it actually looks like to maintain that masculinity and I just WanNa. Thank you so much for sharing all of your brilliance and you're open heart and your knowledge and wisdom with our community and so thanks for being here. One more time. What's the old name of the book on Amazon? The most relationship a blueprint for inspiring the trust lesson devotion of a strong woman. The and Abigail. I just WanNa say thank you for having on great facilitator having done a lot of podcasts. You're quite skill I. appreciate that you know I like to think so. You gotta go on. Thank you hurts. Thanks for being here. Thanks for opening up your heart. Thank you for listening in to what is available in opening up your heart, expressing your energy and being part of partnership and true communication and authenticity. Because here at the hearts unleash podcast, we are turning dreamers into doers. Things to into the heart's leash podcast. We hope you found all the inspiration that you needed today and that you use it to take the next inspired action on your dreams. If you loved the show share with a friend, we love spreading the love for more information to listen more episodes PORTA shot parts, unleashed head over to hearts unleashed dot com CNN next time hearts.

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Why Purchase Data is a Marketers Secret Weapon

Marketing Trends

43:55 min | 3 months ago

Why Purchase Data is a Marketers Secret Weapon

"Hi, ALEC? Baldwin and you're listening to marketing trends and the leads art week. Every day we make purchases. We choose to buy something at one place and not another. We pick this product over that one and that purchase data. What we buy an even what we don't is extremely valuable especially to marketers. Danny cushion is the CMO of cart clinics, a digital advertising platform that serves some of the largest banks around the world and offers insights into the anonymous purchase data of more than one hundred, forty, million people on this episode of Marketing Trends Danny Explains how card lyrics gathers this anonymous data securely and delivers it to banking partners to help them build their cashback offers reward systems and other marketing campaigns enjoy this episode. Marketing Trend PODCAST is brought to you by salesforce. We bring marketing and engagement together learn more at salesforce dot com slash marketing. Here's your host. Ian Face On. Will come to marketing trends I mean phase on host marketing trends, and today we are joined by special guests. Danny. What's going on? Hi, how you doing pinch speaking of here yeah. It's great to have you on today. We are going to be talking about everything going on at car lyrics. WE'RE GONNA to get into your background. So let's do it. How did you get started marketing in the first place at the question? Looking into the way back machine, you know what I actually started in in the sports marketing realm is. Studying marketing at Lehigh University and Pennsylvania and I'm always loved the combination of The science side in the art side and being able to use both sides here brain. So that was always super interesting to me the idea to try to be able to still complex. You know complex concepts into something that helped people understand what would be you know potentially good for them and I just always thought marketing was a really interesting field started my career at major league soccer and then worked in sports marketing for a long time and then after a while after I had. Kids and realized it didn't want to be on the road. All the time as amazing is going to the MLB world series isn't every year it's I ended up getting into the technology world and that's been great. Actually the being able to to be a marketer and technology in technology they didn't analytics space. Is Super Interesting because it's really hard to try to boil down what technology can do people in a way that is human and relatable and make sense. So I've been in you know in the technology world for you know ten plus fifteen plus years now and I've been at lyrics for five years I joined US Cmo in Twenty fifteen and Move my family to Atlanta Georgia, which is always interesting for New Yorker live in the south. But we're global company as well. So Lots of interesting folks to work with and you know I've always found marketing to be a really interesting place where you get to touch a lot of stuff and really get to have a finger on the pulse of. What, consumers need and and how what you do is business can help them sell have always been a marketer since since college and still going to love it. Philo Patriot League. Alumnus. I've actually been Lehigh a couple times. Where did he go into West Point so We. Yes. We would travel with the basketball team and not on the basketball team but. But on. Games. I. I play soccer west point every other year in the super intimidating environment. So I have a lot of I have a Lotta respect for army and my dad was in the army. So I appreciate appreciate what Y'all do. That's glad I'm glad that you said that is intimidating that was what we were going for. It did not show up on the sports field, but we probably we we've been good at soccer over the year. So basketball. Team. Yeah, we'll tough too tall people though. Not, a lot of not a lot of people in the military that could be tall. His nails. Go. Lotta Lotta six-foot-five centers. So Okay I. I'm so curious for our listeners who don't know about card Lennox it's it seems like you know it it is one of those companies that is doing so much with marketing leaders. Not. Always in the spotlight per se but behind a lot of a lot of great companies in retail and banking and places like that. Can you share a little bit about what the company does? Definitely yeah it's interesting. I think the theme of a company who is a BB company and you know I would classes. Ingredient brand. Perhaps, it's always a little tricky when you address markers and we work with, you know a bunch of the biggest brands in the world but consumers don't necessarily know her name because we're not A, we're not a BC faithful brand. So you know we're company that's been around about twelve years now or now a public company traded on the Nasdaq CD LX, which is interesting. We went public a couple years ago. and. As a company we are, we are probably one of the largest digital advertising platforms that you may never have heard of you know we we run. Targeted advertising advertiser funded offers within banks native environment. So if you think of like a bank of America or a chase or wells fargo or a Lloyd Santorum there in the UK some of the biggest banks in the world rely on us to help bring cashback offers to their consumers you know. But as a result, we have really interesting view into aggregated an anonymous purchase data which helps US help marketers. So really what we're doing for marketers is we're helping them stand how to consumers by when they're not. Buying with them, you know we see about three trillion dollars and spend every year across our bank partners. They think about that break that down or it's like was six million bucks a minute. So you know the scale of what we see from a consumer purchase behavior standpoint is is phenomenal. So we use that to help our marketing partners understand what is happening with consumers spent, and I think with the most interesting part of it is that we then use that to help create campaigns for them advertising campaigns. that run through our bank partners, mobile APPS, and online banking, and so you know if you're GonNa, think about you know your your major retailer and you WanNa try to provide something marketing to consumer. He's in using their native BANCAP and thinking about how to use their money and spend their money we can present. Relevant based on past purchase history as. Inside of a bank channel, which you know interestingly now doesn't have any fraud. It's super brand safe because you're not gonna get brands that you don't trust next to your own brand and over time over the last twelve years, we've really grown our scale immensely starts out with you know a handful of smaller bank partners and then grows and grows, and we now reach about over one hundred, forty, million bank customers which when you think about it. That actually reaches more people in the US and Pinterest or snap or twitter. So all really well, no consumer brands but we're reaching bank customers really scale and you know we're helping banks customers save money on stuff they like to buy as well. So it's an interesting place to be. It's always interesting marketing challenge to market a company and you know help other like another businesses win we win, which is I've always loved that about be marketing. But. It's always an interesting challenge when the brand name is not as well known because we want our banks name to be out there with consumers not wrong. Yeah. I was going to ask you about marketing a product that's white label UC sandwich of a lot of these like B.. Two C. Companies and things like that that have their branding in the solution, which is find silly whether it's pop up or something like that. It's like powered by blank obviously companies like. dropbox and places like that have used that for viral growth coefficients, different things. But when you're marketing a white label solution, it's totally different. It's actually the exact opposite and sometimes they want people to know some curious. How how do you go about that? Yeah. It's a great question I think it can be a challenge. You know you'd think about who worked competing with from an advertising standpoint. Again, if we're working with some of the some of the biggest brands in the world that helped them understand. How to how to consumers in a way that's relevant were competing against facebook competing against Google or competing against the big owned and operated platforms that do have that brand halo of also reaching consumers. So it can certainly be a challenge I think what we've found works really really well is just to have direct sea level and whatever level matters conversations with you know our target clients and to be super prescriptive and targeted around one of the problems that we can solve for folks. So I'll give an example. I mean we do a fair bit of thought leadership and put out what we know and the kind of problems we can solve for the accounts that matter most for us, and we haven't we have an interesting view of who we can help the most because we can see exactly what you know what spend is for Walmart or spend is for target on any given day or what spend is you know online in store for name it like any any number of players so I think we. Have such a differentiated solution that the way we go to market is largely through a pretty big and well, well educated consultation sales team We do put out a lot of research like what I think will talk about here in a little bit like state of Spin series that helps folks understand you know what is happening with consumer behavior we have a view like no one else. So I think what we're able to bring to bear for our client. You know how we go to market is largely by. Leaning on what we know and what problems we can help them with and then you know once you get the ball rolling at House clients tell other clients about us. You have folks who move companies and bring us with them. No matter where they go because they know it's the solution that really truly drives measurable incremental sales. So you know we're in a good groove right now, but it's It's funny. It's always something that we talk about it. The team is how do you actually get more visibility? In the channels that matter in the places where you know you're attended client live in a way that will resonate them like what keeps keeps CMO XYZ at night We just make sure that we are there and offering help in a way that that will help them grow their business particularly. Now, I mean particularly now a Lotta people in need for what I do like what is happening and what do I do and how do I navigate what's going on and we have a really compelling solution for that certainly helps. One. Another thing is that you need to analyze your your case studies in your success stories. Yeah with so much of customer success being of this new marketing tool toolkit perhaps I mean. Definitely shift and how people market. You know putting your customer I in your marketing materials it's a little tough to do that when you can't share certain things. How do you look at that? Yeah it's a great question. I think we're always We just relaunched our website car links Tom and we do have some some great. You know client case studies on there but you're right in many cases we blind a lot largely because I think you know we occur lyrics of always known that using you know it sounds like such a coin term but purchase intelligence. So like really understanding what is happening on the purchase side to be the next wave of how do you know whether you're reaching the right people targeting the right people when they're ready? To receive at how do you know it really worked with in store and online purchases we've always known that Super Powerful I think our best clients know it but there is a scenario sometimes where our best clients certainly are hesitant to to share their best kept secret. You know against the competition I, we're an open platform, right? We are not We don't do you know single category deals. We don't do exclusivity. We're an open platform like like many other walled gardens that you them that you would think of. but yeah, I think once you actually find like once you get the ball rolling and it doesn't feel like so heavy and I ask we have a lot of partners who will actually do advocating for us and our on our behalf you know at smaller events and smaller forms, smaller roundtables where they don't feel like they're giving away their best kept secret but they know how impactful is been for their business and in non-competitive arenas. are super happy. To get up there and spend time with us and advocate for us because they know it can be really really impactful and it has been impactful for their businesses. So it's picking choosing and I think once you land once you land sound, it's easier lance more I. think a lot of is built on the great relationships that are in our sales and service teams have with our clients to and across marketing to who we spend a lot of time. Getting to know our clients and just building that trust that that helps it has to come from a place of you know they're not. They're not just making something up about us. They're willing to show their hand a little bit because they realize it can help other marketers obviously in this new world data is the most critical thing for marketers to try to figure out you know card Lennox kind of we're chatting beforehand. This idea of being a, you know a solution for marketers versus a data company, which is kind of. Those two things can can feel like they're one and the same these days because so much marketing is data like how do you see that relationship and then what are some examples of like ways that your customers are using data for to drive success at the great question great question I think since them since our our channel if you will, since our advertising channel is represented by our banks names, like if you go into new advertising, it's in Mira deals or thin chase. or it's in, it's it is white labeled. As you said I, think you know one of the challenges facing the company. A lot of people think we're just a data company and that's certainly not the case. I. Mean we use our purchase data to help our marketing clients. We don't sell data We don't. We're not a day the shop, but I think what's interesting it is intricately tied in honestly because if you don't if you're not using data. To figure out how to make sure that you're reaching people who are you not receptive to or have some kind of higher propensity to buy your advertising you're just still spraying and praying and I think there's there have been ways to get to it in the past right there's click through rates are always an interesting like any kind of signal You know location attempts also say well, maybe there's someone who shows intent to go but honestly I think. Carl is there's no real better indicator of whether someone is going to buy them whether they have bought and so for us, it's really one of the things I think the way that we work with our clients and you know from a client perspective, we're working with marketers in retail in restaurants and travel companies. You know it's a tough space right now obviously, but you know e COM direct folks too. So Dec companies were working with ask grocery big grocery players, and so any of the any of the folks that you could picture do you know large scale marketing campaigns the way that we work with? Them is we help them understand where their customers are not shop or whether shop where they're shopping excuse me when they're not shopping with them. So there's sort of this three legged stool of how it worked with our clients. We help them understand the full share of Wallet View of all right you know pet retailers somebody spent with you one time last month you may or may think that's good. But they've spent X. dollars across the entire category in the last month, and you can really start to tease out what you understand of who you're trying to target by that. I don't come back and give an example in. The second leg of the stool is our ability to actually act on that data. So it's nice to Sorta know that stuff, but must you can actually act on it it's super super hard to actually drive growth and drive change. So we use our past purchase history the target in that, we have to be able to go in and present offer. So what you would see in your backup is different than what I see is different than what my husband would see is different than what someone else because it's all really based down on what's going to be relevant. For me to the ability to really market to the people that matter most is amazing and then the third leg stool and how we work with clients is to actually have choo deterministic measurement down to the penny of what at our campaigns drive. So you know it's it's easy enough really to figure out if digital marketing is driving online, spend really hard to figure out whether you are driving you in store spend from a digital ad unless you actually have the purchase data on the back end. So really that three legged stool is that we work with our marketing clients. the channel you know that we have is again being from three and at scale in a safe environment is just as important as the data. So there. So intricately links I think you know now what we're seeing is the spend landscape has changed. So significantly this year and twenty twenty that what what data we actually have to bring to bear has really changed the game for a lot of marketing clients and a couple of examples. There are clients of ours who are in a complete rise category so. You know since covid nineteen hit categories spending for them like streaming and Telco and on-demand fitness has gone through the roof online grocery pickup and delivery. It's gone through the roof and so what we're actually helping them do they've got all the customers they can handle in some cases is now using the data that we have to shift and try to figure out. Okay. You've had this Hughes huge surge in like acquired customers. How do you now retain them and so we have what we call our Kobe Dashboard not terribly. Cleverly, branded or named internally we use this thing to be able to look at spend on a week by week basis and say are at certain areas of the country open and these clients of ours who have quired a number of customers as customers are starting to get more comfortable going back into in store locations, and perhaps returning to their their normal way of shopping out of these folks who've gotten customers new customers through to hold onto them how do they change that consumer behavior and spending for good? And the way that we do that we work with them to look at the segments where perhaps there's the city opening up and you make sure that you target that customer base appropriately if you try to make sure that it's super compelling for them to keep driving the next sale and driving the next sale instead of having them just revert back to their own past you know their past purchase history. So like that's one example and I think another way if you look at the clients of ours who have been hit really really hard. This year won't even get in the travel at the whole of the ball of wax, but you look at folks like. Retail players who have a heavy in store alliance or you look at the restaurants like in restaurant dining how do we help make sure that they understand where spend his going when it might be starting to trend back? So that quite honestly they want market in a way that's appropriate and not pushing people into an unsafe place. They don't WanNa be tone deaf none of us as marketers be tone deaf and to shove marketing down people's throats we wanna try to offer up something of interest and when you're ready to spend in that category. So you know another example, a major major coffee retailer that we work with we've been. Working very very closely with since the beginning of the year when when krona virus hit they pause all of their market, all of it except for a few segments with us because we can really make sure that we're only reaching the people that are actively spending in that category already, they think about you know active responders, it's you know required requires people might be people going to the hospital You know the the necessary workers to how do we make sure that they're only marketing those individuals and in places where we're able to change the messaging to talk about what they're doing from an operational standpoint like promoting drive through. It, really easy and that allowed them to feel good about offering up. You know cashback rewards quite honestly in a way that people need money right now on this stuff they want to buy and I'm on the stuff that they need to buy. So it felt good for them like that's one example we've been able to help them figure out how do. Your return safely from this thing to come out the other side of this crazy crazy time. But also make sure that you're reaching your customers in a way that is not tone deaf that is responsible and that is super targeted so that it is it is done well. So just a couple of examples there of how we work with folks now. I'm curious you talked about the status spend would is this initiative is marketing initiative is like company-wide a wide you create this? Yeah. Great Question. So it actually started a lot of what we do a card latex. We can certainly geek out on our data and it's always funny because we were really big advertising platform is powered by some incredible data, and so we have a great in-house analytics and data science team who created this dashboard as soon as we started to see. Things happening and I will say you know mid March mid February mid. March. We could really really start to see things happening already and buy things running pretty drastic changes in spend. You know pretty could really start to see leading indicators. Okay. Something is happening here. So our analytics team actually has set up pissed. There's dashboard that our internal teams can all pull that they work very closely with marketing with sales with our service teams so that we can pull and and understand for marketing we look at at an industry level, we're never going to name names and In broader conversation, but our client services teams can help our clients understand okay QSR. This is what's happening in your space right now, this is how to help think about how to actually market through this time So it actually started as an analytic led efforts and You know we the status spend that we've been putting out recently, we've put out a few issues now and it's really meant to to capture and put out broader industry views, stuff of what's happening, and so the state of spend reports is marketing initiative initiative built on a company wide initiative to help our clients. You. Know Rise retain and returned through this crazy time. You know we are. We are right now interestingly looking at how is spend starting to trend back in the right direction and so a lot of what we've included in the you know the research reports that we've put out there thought leadership we've put out it's just a little bit of a double tap on certain categories like e Com and what does it look like for an economy brand? Right now you know what does it look like for office supplies being up ninety three percent year every year or online grocery being up one hundred, forty, six, percent year year like beauty. It's super interesting this the online beauty orders up forty percent year over year at any given time. So super interesting to look at though then we use it with our clients and and really the broader economy to help and markers help figure out what does it mean for? ME. How do I come through in a way that stronger? You know, for instance, some of the stuff to be looked at, you can see that the e commerce growth that's been driven the last couple of months, and there's been a huge growth in some of the smaller as across the country, which if you think about it, maybe not surprising because perhaps the bigger DMA's had easier access to getting stops, you know perhaps may maybe a little further header already. And they're all AMATA shopping behavior but I think what's going to be interesting with the state of spend series that we're putting out and regularly over time now is to see what happens to consumer behavior long-term, right what how how does how does how you shop now differ from? It did a week ago a month ago what will look like in six months and that is really the intent of what we've been doing with these these research reports so. Can help marketers try to figure out what next going on we have a really interesting view able to cut it a bunch of different ways and that we have been sharing some case studies in there too. So if you're a marketer and you're looking at this and saying, well, okay, got sorta get it. What does this mean for me? You can actually learn from how others are actually working with us to try to to come out the other side and maintain or regain bend from consumers There are a lot of companies going out of business right now and you know I think we've always taken it really serious they. That what we do to help marketers understand, and then market their businesses effectively is it's what we live for. It's what we've always been about. So competitors analytics become company-wide and and we've now been able to spread the good word to marketing. Tuva have a favorite campaign that you've run over the last five years. ooh, that's a good question marketing campaign or a client who is one of those. Could be either that's fun. Either or one of each. You know I think honestly I think. Some of them are pretty recent quite I'm saying I've been at the company for about five years. So we've come through a lot of change in that time I. Think you know going through the company is always an interesting and and super compelling thing 'cause figuring out we've always been about marketing to marketers but also figuring out how to lay her in a you know an overlay so that what you do is completely and really fully by investors also super interesting I think some of the stuff that we've been doing recently like we're doing some really great accompanies marketing campaigns where we're going from are targeted account list and working really really closely with our our sale you know our sales team and our sales development reps to figure what matters to the clients that we're trying to address particularly now, and so we've been doing these sort of. State of spend type ADS. Specifically, targeted to directors or VP are. Lousy Lincoln but looking to expand it through other platforms and and I love that kind of honesty I. Love that kind of advertising. I love those kinds of marketing campaign because it requires us as a team to move really quickly and make sure that what we're presenting to our perspective marketing clients or career at marketing clients. as well. Really hits the nail on the head for what they need right that. So that honestly some of our recent campaigns and the state of spending our ability to turn it into account based marketing campaigns are some of my favorite. I think one of the reasons I love my job. It's a lot of fun to be able to see and talk shoes. CMO's across a bunch of different industries like I get to do a lot of different CMO huddles and spend time with you know. Executives from all kinds of different industries and I. I personally just find that super interesting and compelling. But then you you learn like what really matters to a lot of executives that they're trying to drive their companies forward a couple of client examples that I always think are sort of interesting There's a advance auto parts of the Klein of ours, and they used to do advertising through our channel focused primarily or almost solely on new customer acquisition. You know they had their own way of measuring what does a loyal customer look like if? By with US X. Times ear, then we don't need to touch him crm. Got It. But we worked with them and we did a bit of analysis to actually show that. Okay. Wait a minute what they were classing is loyal customers were actually just really be category shoppers. These are people who really liked to fix up their cars and they weren't just spending advance auto. There were spending equal amounts or more with their competitive set, and so we were able to open up the targeting for the campaigns for advanced auto and drive you know millions more incremental sales. To those kinds of things are interesting and compelling because it allows us to sort of, Hey, I love being able to help other companies win. That's great and you we talked about in the beginning but you know I'm a soccer player and so also a competitive individual and it feels good when you you're a team with your clients. But then from a marketing standpoint, we can take those kinds of stories about how we help. Back into our marketing materials Those are really the best ways for us to go to market by being able to show really clearly and with a lot of detail. The kinds of problems that we can solve through what's what's a really unique channel in in the world like being able to reach people when they're thinking about their money and do they want to try to spend on this versus that? Comes full circle for us. One marketing we don't we don't make the stakes just make happy accidents. Bob Ross tells us so you have your. Favorite learning experiences along the way. Although I've gotTA deal. I'll do a little aside for a moment because we. Love our Halloween, and a few years ago. We did have a Bob Ross Halloween where you either dresses, pub Ross you breath dresses that happy tree you just as a you know a canvas and we you know we may have may not have had some of US wearing real trees on our heads. So we're all about happy accidents you know I think we definitely never get everything, right? You know. We definitely, never get anything right I. think there are some things that we've done as a team that you know have not been terribly inspired, and maybe it's a little bit to broaden our messaging and you take the bathroom clients and be like, what are you doing that? You know it doesn't mean anything to me I think what I've learned over the last five years and even my in my career marketing technology is. Getting feedback from the folks that were trying to talk to and just having an open dialogue. I think my biggest takeaway on what I used to do to what I do now is how we write as marketers and making sure that we're writing in a way that human and accessible, and honestly like it's it's so easy to write. The Way Your Company's speaks but it's really really hard to read something with fresh eyes and sure that your marketing in a way that matters and make sense it could be read something twice too complicated if you have to if you have to dig for the Like we're looking for the folks that we're trying to address aren't too. How do you really hone your marketing message to something that resonates as an is described in a human way and not too inside baseball I think you know those are the things that I'm still learning every day but like I think that we as a team at cartilage improved upon over time to make sure that we're really speaking. With our customers and getting feedback on you know what matters and does this make sense to you or are we just you know it's it's super easy. A super data informed shop in Peel like just speaking with the way that we're used to speaking internally does not always fly and it certainly doesn't make sense when addressing a different audience that does not know or care about us yet. If. A company wanted to increase focus on customer loyalty and engagement, and there's one thing what's your silver bullet that they could do to to drive better customer loyalty good question. Well, I think the first place to start is to figure out what you don't know and I'll explain like you gotta start from a place to drive better customer loyalty and engagement you need to understand I a loyal. Your customers really are and I think a lot of a lot of companies have all kinds of different models and different ways of getting surveys i. think there's usually more headroom in a category. Then, a lot of brands realized you know, and so I think the way that we work with our clients you have to start with what you know and if you only know what people are shopping with you how often shopping with you, you don't really know how loyal they are. It's a it's a bit of a myopic. That's always the starting point I mean you know the delivery of our campaigns through this amazing channel is how bring it to bear But all of our marketing, you know relationships really start from a place of well, let's help you understand how much headroom do you actually have and I'll give an example. There's a you know a major mass merchandiser, the company that we work with and a couple of years ago we were having a conversation with their CMO we're like all right. Well, where do you think your customers shop when not shopping with you not just in your category but across. All you know he has some really good guesses in some of the top ten, the number one brand that they competed with was a like a craft store and he's like wait we don't have a craft department is like, okay like something to consider. So I think understanding where your customers are spending their money when they're not spending with you it matters not just for how you compete against your competitive set. It helps you understand how do we gain loyalty to? them by perhaps adding across actioner affecting my merchandising decisions or informing I add creative with something that's going to speak to my customer new or existing but for to drive further loyalty, really understanding what matters to that customer you know we do it through purchase data up see every good marketer worth their salt does it do all kinds of different ways but really understanding what is your customer up to and what matters to them is is the way to do it. Y-. That's such. A great point that most folks just are looking at. At, their own data to figure out how? Her doing things not looking at the broader ecosystem and its like everybody buys from us on on Tuesday walls and it's like well, actually the majority of people by on Mondays, but your stores too busy on Mondays. Or whatever it is. Yeah. At the great example, great example and it listen first party data crucial. It's crucial it still so important like having having your first party data in order and understanding you know how our consumers shopping in store with you Howard shopping online with you like that's still so crucial and getting understanding of you know, what is how do you actually drive them back and forth? Between channels like First Party data, and we see that too. But a lot of companies have great first Party data where they can see that. All right. Wow. If somebody's shops both in store and online with me, and this is in normal days when we actually go to stores but you know if they're shopping in and on store on an end in stores me, they spend you know. Fifty to eighty percent more with me and so using your own first party data can get you only so far But yeah, it does help and honestly you know we do have a couple of rare cases where clients work with us to help inform other larger decisions and of course, they're massive advertisers on our platform. It's not a normal off the shelf thing but helps them figure out. Where to place real estate you know what is what is an interesting place for us to put a store because we know what other stores are around us and what does our consumer like to spend on? He can solve some pretty interesting problems. If you look at a broader set of the right data, there's a whole lot of junk out there too but a broader set up the right data. Well speaking of the right data. Let's let's get to the right questions here in our lightning round these questions. Okay. Get. Ready Strap in these questions are fast and easy just like marketing with salesforce, you can go source source, DOT COM slash marketing to learn more they've been with us since the very beginning of marketing trends we love salesforce, check him out. So source dot com slash marketing. Wrong questions ready. I'm ready number one. Who is your favorite Everton player of all time? Duncan Ferguson. Yup Duncan Ferguson although named all three of my kids after Evertonians as well. So also love Kendall Graham Sharpe and Joe. Harsher. Would APP on your phone is the most fun. had. Would habit have you picked up during shelter in place? eating dinner with my family overnight. What is your unknown skill or any really any type of unknown. I I play three instruments. I play the piano, the sex in the oboe although the piano is really the only one I. I still play and I'm sort of miserably trying to teach my children this time as well. But that the piano is a very relaxing released for me. If you weren't CMO was, he'd be doing. At love to say professional soccer player but was never quite good enough. You know artists of some sort like being able to communicate crew something visual through words. So probably some kind of an artist. So, this isn't necessarily lightning round. Style but I forgot to ask you was there any any hardship transitioning from from sports into? And sports partnerships and those sort of things into into marketing. Yeah it's great. It's a great question You know I know he's been on the marketing side a sports than this won't be a lightning round and Keep it shorter, but you know working I worked at a Sirius. XM BEFORE I got into marketing technology and so the super sexy job, right you go like I was working with Derek jeter and David Ortiz Cal ripken and Mark Messier, and it's a super interesting super interesting job and when I first decided to get out of sports you know as a marketer i. just wanted to a broader span of what I got to do. You know I really wanted to tackle market research and product marketing and how do you actually have maybe not so directed and narrow path although albeit super interesting and fun attack, more as a marketer and try different things I will say when I first switched over I, left Sirius Xm and went to a company called millennial media. WHO's now part of Verizon Media You know when it was able to go to the IPO with them and and left soon before they were acquired by AOL and then verizon but I will say you know I think i. Went from doing like Major League, Baseball all-star game one months, and then some mobile marketing conference that some Rinky Dink Kotel and I was like Oh man what have I done it certainly, you know it does not have the flash and so that took a while to sort of back up and be like, yeah. But I did this because I want to grow as a marketer and I wanted to. Try, something different and so you know a weekend you're like Oh yeah. No. I did this for the right reasons but I will say it was a little bit of a culture shock moving from something that was you know so high profile interesting to something that you can make your difference in a in a longer maybe less direct way over time and technologies being able to market technology A. Super Interesting, and you know I sit on the board for a not for profit here in Atlanta, called women in technology which is all about helping underserved young girls and women find their way through steam and try to find help them understand what other options, and there's so much power and being able to do that kind of stuff and to be you know a woman executive in public. Technology Company. Has Been Really. Really rewarding and whether you're a man or woman, it can be still rewarding to try this show young people what you can do through steam and how you know my job is not the technologist. But although as marketers we are also that, but to be able to help enunciate what the power of technology is and that's been, I'm so glad for the change you that was. It was culture shock to begin with, but in been super welcome and I still I'm so happy for the choices that have made. West question of our lightning round. What is your best advice for first time? CMO When you come in listen. And, when you when you come in audit and understand before, you try to solve your easily be able to get some quick wins You know there's some really obvious stuff to do and you WANNA post toes to the wall. But there are a lot of people who have the history of what you need right in front of you and setting up time with those people in the company and understanding what worked what didn't work why you know it can help you get to the answers. You need a lot faster than if you just hit the ground running without listening Chris. Also. Well, that's it. That's all we have for today to any any final thoughts anything to plug. Obviously, our our listeners should check card links, DOT COM to learn more about all the cool stuff we talked about today. Yeah. Great. I've really enjoyed. Fine. Thank you from being able to expo edeka marketing especially in technology company. When you're, you know you got a small marketing team and not everybody likes to Geek out on the marketing discussions as much as we do. So I've appreciated the ranch they shutting with you. We love it. That's for sure last two We'll have to have you back soon. Take care. Thank you. Marketing Trans podcast is brought to you by salesforce discover marketing built on the world's number one crm salesforce put your customer at the center of every interaction automate engagement with each customer and build your marketing strategy around the entire. Customer Journey Sill Scores we bring marketing engagement together learn more at salesforce dot com slash marketing.

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Handicapping the Hardwood College Basketball Betting Podcast February 17, 2020

"We got one guest at one more segment here for this February seventeenth edition of Bloomberg Radio. That is with professional handicapper. Kyle Hunter from Hunter. Sports picks dot com and also better sports fix DOT COM Kinda. How's it going today in school? Right man I'll be honest. I'm a little bit less than one hundred percent here like we talked about recovering from the surgery and have also had some sickness issues so not quite Myself but at the same time I was looking forward to talks in college basketball ear with you today Wanted to get on here for a few minutes. Did you realize that we're less than a month? Away from selection Sunday. We are less than a month away. It's crazy I'm from Saint Patrick's Day. That's the Tuesday. The first day for the four play in Games as well so from that it is absolutely crazy to say the least but on the bright side here man. I know things have been tough for you and a lot of different ways but even running pretty good with the plays lately. It's got to lift your spirits a little bit. Yeah as been really nice. I'll be honest. That's what I was GONNA say. If you were saying how the players are doing I would say really good Twelve and to my last fourteen at one ten straight Sides UNTIL MINNESOTA LOSS. Yesterday Minnesota would just an epic choke job there against Iowa at the end of that game? I don't think Minnesota has ever practice against zone defense Based on the way it looked but but You know obviously it was bound to the streak was bound in at some point and and It's been a really good round here of late. I know I've had quite a few clients get on board so I I appreciate that and like you said. Yeah that's been nice to have because Been Kinda rough going otherwise so nice to see the place doing well so I guess when when people say break a leg I guess I guess that's kind of what they mean. Oh Man Yeah. Tc Bad jokes aside here. We got a lot of stuff to get to on this segment. And look you know. We love the under the radar type stuff. We've got a ton of that here coming your way on today's segment lots of low major teams that we're GonNa talk about some low major games as well but you know what I mean by this point in time. We pretty much know everything. We need to know about a lot of major conferences. We know that we can't trust anybody in the big ten. We know the big East is really good for the big twelve is really good outside of Oklahoma State Kansas State. So I think it's good idea to spend some more time here on these low under the radar types of conferences. And with that in mind we start with a fade team from the Whitney Wicky wack. It'll start with Utah Valley way under the radar. I'd really several tough losses in a row. They almost beat New Mexico state on the road in their last game. They had a lead there with like three two or three minutes left Some tough spots upcoming in my opinion this Utah Valley team is not a bad team. They play some pretty good teams here in the next few Games and Utah Valley coming off several close losses in a row. I think that they could be a good fade here. Because it's hard to lose those big games and come up just short. Multiple Games in our without there being some kind of letdown spot so I would expect Utah Valley letdown spot here soon thinks to and also when we talk about spots talk about situations and talk about teams the major conference teams the deeper teams teams that tend to have a lot of scoring options. It's maybe a little bit easier for them to overcome types of spots like that but for these teams in the low major conferences. Where maybe they're very reliant. On one kind of player you know Some guy with a very high usage rate something like that. Those spots are definitely a little bit more difficult for them. Because hey if you're top guy off a little bit of fatigue from putting so much into some of these games that can make it very very challenging to say the least but with that being said we always like to try to finish a little bit of a high note here and you do have a follow team. It's on your radar from a little bit of a bigger conference. You still lying amid major but a bigger name conference where we were at Missouri State. You know I like to look for these teams that were ranked highly in the preseason that have struggled and then they start to turn it around and that's exactly what Missouri State is you know. Certainly some people thought Missouri State would win the league this year or at least finished in the top two or three. They have good coach. They have some really good transfers from other schools. The came to Missouri State. That really haven't played quite as good as they thought they would. But I think this Missouri State team is pretty dangerous and they played well in their last couple of games at win on Sunday at Indiana state was a good win. I think Missouri States a team that I like to look to back here down the stretch whether it be regular season and even in the postseason. I think there's Missouri State team could be pretty tough to beat here the rest of the way of course that Missouri Valley Conference Tournament. And this is a league where you know everyone kind of wins at home in this league but you get to arch madness there in Saint Louis and things can get a little bit crazy and you'll do some of our conference tournament preview shows as much as we can here once we get to. The MONTEMAR chose actually start on March third with some really small conferences but to Missouri State. That is maybe peaking at the right time and they do have some tough games coming up here at Bradley on Wednesday. They've got Chicago at home on Saturday. They did lose only by four to the ramblers earlier on this season on the road. Maybe that's a team that winds up with a pretty good price point for US given it. The rest of this conference is so top heavy with northern Iowa the clear number one in Leila Chicago number two. I think I think this team I would be interested in obviously depends on the drawing. We'll see when that comes out and we can talk about it more then but this is a team that I would hope would get a decent draw because I'd be interested in him and I think that most people would be pretty quick to overlook them so definitely one that I consider looking into all right so we take a look at some aggression candidates here. We've got some positive and some negative here today. But I've got one interesting stat here for you. And Kyle totals player. I'm sure you're pretty aware of. Uc Davis is doing here. This season. Seventeen in eight to the over seven of their last. Eight Games have gone over the total. They're shooting fifty percent from three in the last five games. They're now up to thirty eight point six percent for the season that is eighth in the country. But they're terrible on defense. Three hundred sixteenth adjusted defensive efficiency. Three hundred twenty six ineffective field goal percentage defense. Their last four games all of which have gone over the total here. One fifty five one fifty eight had a game. That was almost a hundred seventy points. It was one sixty nine. And then they're both recent game two hundred eight points in their most reese again that one flying over the total cal state northridge. But they're only playing their last four games. Sixty nine sixty eight sixty seven than seventy five possessions. Uc Davis cash colony over. Here of late. Yeah you know as you were talking sitting here looking at the graph on Bart Toward Vic site of their points for possession in points per possession out. It's really something else They'll ask three games. They've had one point two seven four points per possession and then slowed down to one point. Two five four points possession against UC Santa Barbara in their last game. One point four six one boys for possession against CAL state northridge really to be honest. That's about as good as you'll ever see you know one and a half points per possession is about the highest ever seen so This UC Davis team. Like you said they're not playing fast. I mean actually. They prefer to slow the game down to be honest yet. Their defense is so bad. Their offense is so good. They've had really high scoring games. I will tell you I have a hard time with get with teams like this because about the time they start missing a few shots in your taking over one fifty. Your don't I mean you loss at the same time. Uc Davis continues to make these shots here clearly. Very good shooting team. I mean they shoot really well from the free throw line and the three point line which tells me they have some really good shooters at the same time you know. These numbers are going to be getting awfully high here as we go down the stretch so I would say that it could be hard to take overs with. Uc Davis if you find a team that you think might be able to Play really good defense against them or slow them down enough maybe say like UC Riverside there at the end of the year. That might be a good time to take an under. But you know it's hard to take in under with the team like this so definitely an interesting stat that a great look for Mark Godfrey with cal State Northridge. Giving up one hundred ten points that last game. It's it really has not gone. Well there with the matadors for him but again as we kind of keep keep an eye on a look ahead here at this conference tournaments will talk about this a lot when we get to the big West Tournament but the Honda Center Anaheim not particularly great for offense so UC Davis may end up on our fade list. Here when we get to the conference tournament yeah definitely now like under the at the Honda Center. Certainly and Big West Tournament could be a pretty good one this year. Irvine has been the favourite and the best team but I don't think they're way better than everybody else is here so think that'll be a good tournament speaking of UC Riverside. Since you mentioned them. I'll go ahead and talk about them here and stay out in this big West conference since January first which is essentially pretty much conference play. Opponents are shooting forty one and a half percent from three against this. Uc Riverside team and as you mentioned their team that plays in a very very slow pace three hundred forty fifth in the country according to barbeque in adjusted tempo but their last three losses are by two by four and then by two in overtime guest a pretty bad long beach state team but teams are just shooting the lights out against them right now and they don't really seem to have an answer for it. Maybe a positive aggression team here going forward is. The opposition starts to miss a little more. I like this one. I think this is a good positive. Regression candidate Uc Riverside could be a good team to back. I also think that could be a good team to play some under. S- with you know. This is a riverside team that their average possession linked What they do with the ball Twenty and a half seconds average possession in the conference. Twenty point six so This is a really slow pace team. Three hundred fifty I in average possession like so Highlanders really try to slow the game down. I think you could get some value on the under as well well. They're in an interesting spot here this week on Thursday night because Hawaii comes back to the mainland now the first time Hawaii came to mainland to play some big West Games. It was the first time in a while that they had been there almost about a month. This time it's only two weeks so not as long of a time for the Rainbow Warrior is being out on the island but still take on. Riverside here a game. It's going to be slow going to be played through the mud. Maybe Riverside probably catching points there. Thursday night at home could end up being a decent. Look there in that one. How about this stat? Coming from the Southland Conference Stephen F. Austin team everybody knows from some of their more recent. Ncaa tournament appearances since January. First they are three hundred fifty. I in the country. In turnover percentage on offense they are I in the country and forcing turnovers defense number. One and turnover percentage. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that. Yeah that's it's pretty crazy. I will save the Southland to me as one of the hardest conferences to bed. I almost never bet that conference. There are a lot of teams like Stephen F. Austin that that Turn it over a lot on offense force. A lot of turnovers on defense. Really hard to bet totals based on that so I usually don't bet those games I think Stephen F. Austin has proven that they're one of the best teams in the team that would be very dangerous Both they've shown that this year impasse years but I don't know what this means. Betting lies because you know it's just a it's an interesting stat where I think that the conference they play has something to do with that but I mean you know maybe you would make you think you'd WanNa take unders but you also want to be a pretty high under because you know lot of the teams in this conference play very quickly transition both ways here when you're taking the ball away and you're giving the ball away. Stephen. F. Austin tent and three point percentage on offense for the year three hundred and fifteenth in three point percentage defense their fourth in free throw rate which is free throws relative to feel temps there. Three hundred and forty seventh in free throw rate against their games are just all over the place and quite frankly. This is something I noticed about the Southland when I was Kinda looking through getting some early thoughts for their conference tournament. That's coming up there's a lot of fouling in this league to. I don't know if it's just bad game. Play or what. But there's a lot of just ugliness about this conference that's GonNa lead to some overseer of the conference tournament teams are kind of playing every possession like it's their last. Yeah it definitely could get a team like Houston Baptist in this league. Where you know. The oddsmakers can't set a number high enough. Because they just keep going over one seventy something things like that because they play so fast so many fouls So little defense Certainly think that you know as most people want to Think that all the Games will be lower scoring in conference tournaments. This could be one of those conference tournaments to where there are still quite a few is scoring games so contrary to popular belief here we do talk about some major conference teams. It's household names that everybody knows how about the Michigan State Spartans. They are seven and six straight up. Since the calendar flip to twenty twenty opponents are only shooting forty three and a half percent from two that's fifteenth in the country and twenty seven point four percent from three that's seventeenth in the country. According to the notes I took last night. How are you a five hundred team playing that good of defense like the spartans are the spartans have been turning the ball over quite a bit they're twelve and the conference in? Turnover percentage on offense They haven't been getting new line either. Which is surprising Still even with that. It's surprising with that kind of defense that you haven't won more games than that. I don't know what to think of Michigan State. I mean I really don't It's a team where I don't want to Bet. Their Games here The rest of the regular season. I know that is a very good coach and he usually has his team ready for the NCAA tournament You know somewhat argue that they haven't been good in recent years as they. Were you know several years ago Last year they had a good run obviously was winston leading the way. But it's hard to know what to do with the big ten in general like you said I mean. The big ten is very very good conference. There's a lot of really good teams in this conference but nobody is clearly better than everybody else. I will say I do have to say that Maryland has gotten a couple of really nice roadways and their team that I kinda dogged a little bit here earlier in the season I I still don't know that. I Trust Maryland in the NCAA TOURNAMENT. But they've certainly had some nice road winds here in the big ten Including that last game for Michigan State Michigan State is better than they've shown here of late but now the oddsmakers are not really gotten that low on them. I mean if you look at their prices over the last few games. It's not like you can really buy them that lows. So I'm not sure what to do with Michigan State. Yeah I I don't know either. I mean I just have no idea at this point in time what you're supposed to do with this team or most of the teams that are out there in the big ten. How about this one? How about this fall from grace for Mike Hopkins's team they were twelve and six at one point. They didn't play. The greatest of Non Conference schedule is but I mean. This isn't team that beat. Baylor the only team. It's beaten Baylor. They played okay against Tennessee. In a neutral setting up in Canada it only lost by seventy Gonzaga at home but now the bottom has completely fallen out. Four this huskies team. Since New Year's Day they are to an eleven straight up even though opponents are only shooting forty two point five percent from two and twenty nine point four percent from three that's V didn't do quite percentage defence forty ninth in three point percentage defense there a train wreck on offense to be totally honest with you. I didn't realize they've been as bad as sad. You know when you said that stat and they started looking into this team a little bit. I was like wow I mean. I knew that they had fallen off but I didn't realize they had been this spat. I'm pretty surprised you. I know there without green a key injury but green is not that good of a player to where they should have lost every game here since then This Washington team was the team that most people had pretty high hopes for. And like you said in the Non Conference. They played pretty well. You know. There's there wasn't really anything to to be too scared about. You know you get that win over Baylor and I mean even to start the conference they want at home. Seventy two to forty against USC had close lost to UCLA Couple close losses their against Cao Oregon and then Utah and remember that Utah. Game really well where they lost. Sixty seven to sixty six now very questionable calls at the end of that game and it seems like that kind of broke this team and sometimes you'll see that in younger teams too where You know you get a really tough loss in. It's hard to bounce back from. This is really real young Washington team. They aflaid really poorly since that loss. At Utah The thing that stands out to me about this more than anything else is that the Jaden mcdaniels who was very highly touted Has not been a very good fit here so far you know. He has really turned the ball over a law. His turnover rate is is very high Shooting percentage very low Certainly a guy with ten went who could get a lot better but it's not been the fifth that people who had hoped it would be and the crazy thing is. I'm sitting here looking at the PAC twelve and I'm going. I waste money this team for the PAC twelve tournament in Las Vegas because as you mentioned and they lost it at home to Oregon and overtime. They've got some very close losses. Lost by three at home to Arizona lost by four at home to Arizona. State the game where they actually were able to score a little bit. We just a game where they didn't play a whole lot of defense they. Their record is not good at all. Obviously two and eleven in conference play but they've been close and they've been close to get some of the better teams here. The only played Colorado once that was on the road. So you can't really take too much out of that game. I don't know just by virtue of playing this zone by playing at T. mobile arena. Which is kind of iffy for offense. I may burning money on this team here in a couple of weeks time. I don't think argue with you either me that I kind of hope that keeps playing poorly and then we have a chance to buy really low on them. I mean the PAC twelve is certainly not Loaded with great teams to where they couldn't make Iran and we've seen this match up zone the Syracuse match up zone do really well in conference tournaments in in the NCAA tournament in the past so Certainly they have a chance aren't so we break down some games here and we'll start very very low under the radar. This is what I said. Already this is kind of a split here between games that you set me and games. I sent you Robert Morris and Saint Francis Pennsylvania. Now you're not going to hear about a game like this. I'm pretty much any other show. That's out there so of course. I'm going to do it because I'm just that Kinda degenerate but here in this Northeast Conference Merrimack is the best team. The problem is merrimack. Can't go to the Fritz Tournament because they're in transition first year here in Division One so these are the top two teams here in this conference from a standing standpoint and they play each other twice in a short period of time they played twice in eleven days. Possibly with the top seat on the line here and again obviously with these low major conference tournaments a lot of times. The top seed is at home throughout the course of the tournament. So these games between these two teams here the rest of the way our huge with Robert Morris and Saint Francis Pa. Yeah absolutely I think that you know. This is an interesting conference where I'd be interested to talk about the conference tournament as well because like you said. Miramax been the best team in that zone. Merrimack plays is really bothered. Everyone but you know they're not going to be Eligible Miramax. Team where I I like to look at unders with them and have low scoring games but you know who is the other top team in this conference. I don't think we really know the answer that yet. You know what's who's going to be the better team between these two. I like Andrew Tool. I think he's a really good coach there for Robert Morris. I would lean toward Robert Morris here even though the records not quite as good. They have played a slightly tougher schedule. Saint Francis is really not played very many good teams. The thing that Saint Francis has going for them is. They're very experienced team so I don't think I'll bet any money on this game but it'll be interesting to see how this goes wanting to get one of the reasons I wanted to bring this up. Is that you know again. You've got these seeding considerations for home court. That's a big thing. Also here in the northeast conference not everybody gets in. Obviously Miramax won't be in which will open up a spot for another bad team to get the field but not everybody gets in so it's not a bad idea here at this time of the year to check the conference tournament formats. We'll do this a lot more talk on next Monday's segment but some of these conference tournaments here where the bottom teams don't get in. You're going to have some teams. That are very motivated to try and get that one shot in the tournament. This is obviously a battle for the top seed but there are some out. There were not everybody gets in. So those are things that you want to factor in the equation here late in the regular season. This one's not so thinly veiled. This one's pretty obvious. Big Game on Tuesday night Dayton on the road at vcu in the rematch. This is what you said over to me. So I'll let you have the floor. I well you know Dayton I feel like we did a good job talking about Dayton last week and you isolate a great spot there When they played UMASS Umass they win. Seventy one sixty three. I don't know right off hand what the line was. But I know they didn't cover that spread. It had to be fourteen or fifteen or something like that so A good a good call by you. As far as it. Being a bad spot for Dayton they went seventy one sixty three after beating Rhode Island home And now they play. Vcu On the road the two best teams are the two other best teams in the conference Other than date and they play them and then they have sandwich. Pa there against Hugh Mass definitely get spot and it's one of those where when we talk about there's look ahead spots or the difficult spots coming up it's always nice to see those come through Like that when did I think in this spot? You know Vcu has been pretty disappointing this year. It's hard to to say too much positive about them compared to expectations at least I know they're seventeen and aid they've been a money burner and this. Vcu team comes into this playing some bad basketball. They've lost three of their last four. They were absolutely blown out by Richmond. And I know it would be tempting to say well. They're looking forward to the Dayton game but they can't look pass Richmond so vcu has some issues and Dayton. I mean maybe we've just been trying to assume that Dayton's GONNA lose a game too many times here and maybe Dayton just that good You know if this line is four or four and a half In favor of Dayton I'd lean toward Dayton. Here I don't I don't WanNa take Dayton because it's not the side that I wanna take the will be the public side of a be laying points on the road the same time I I can't take. Vcu Plus that many points at have to have a lot more points from that date and spend so consistently very good and they think they have that down game there on Saturday. A tough spot. But I think Dayton's clearly the better team here so I don't know what are your thoughts on this game. Yeah I mean this is one where you would think you've got a doubly pissed off. Ecu Team you've got the revenge angle off the date and loss and then getting blown up by Richmond. I mean that's not going to sit well with anybody there. Richmond return the favor because vcu blew them out the first game one by nineteen well. Richmond goes wins by eighteen. So you should have an upset. Vcu Team here but you also have a team that I think just consistently the nature of the program. They just have a chip on their shoulder at all times. I mean this is their spotlight game. They always want to beat me. See You. This is their rival. Has Two rivals Richmond. Probably the primary one because it's that inner city angle there so I just I just think this team I mean they're going be up completely for this game and if they're up completely they're the better team. I mean they've proven that a few times over here where when they wanNA play they blow you out with. They don't WanNa play. They win and they don't win in super comfortable fashion. They're gonNA WANNA blow this team out here and this is one of those scenarios. Do we talk about the motivation for the rest of the regular season? Bc loses this as we both expect them to do. They give a shit on Friday at Saint Louis. Do they care the following Wednesday at Umass? They play George Washington Duquesne at home. Maybe they get up for that Davidson game on the road. But I think he was a fade the rest of the way because if they lose this game their sole focus is a shot at Dayton in the conference tournament. I don't think they care about the rest of the regular season at all. I agree I mean if they win this game. It probably changes things right if they lose this game I don't I don't see why they would care and especially in that next game against Saint Louis. You know they'd be a UH short underdog. I think Saint Louis would be a good play in that game if if the C. You lose this game especially if it's a hard fought game and they come up to a shored that could be a really good spot to play. Saint Louis again. I go into the radar here as we transition over to Wednesday Boston University and Lafayette here as we talk about the Patriot league not a whole lot of talk out there about the Patriot league. But you know what I'm Kinda crazy so I'm gonNA talk about it here because I find this fascinating. Lafayette in conference play here in the Patriot. League is only eight and sixteen. Two of their winds are against colgate. Colgate is only lost. Three Games in conference play. They got a flat spot on Sunday against loyal Maryland and lost that one eighty four to eighty but Lafayette's got two of the three wins over colgate. Who Most people think. Probably the best team here in this offense and they only lost by a point at Boston U. earlier in the year off yet. Seems Kinda dangerous here don't they? I think Lafayette is a dangerous team. Their team where You know they're very good offensively. They shoot the ball very well. They don't foul much on defense. They do give up some some easy looks on defense sometimes but This is Lafayette team. Where you gotta jump shots are falling. They do shoot a lot of three pointers Boston University has been about average at guarding three point. Shots so I I think that this this is one of those spots where I would see Lafayette as the team. That I WOULD WANNA back here as I was playing anything in this game and I and I will admit that when he sent me over this game I was surprised to see this game and I like it because it's way under the radar but Boston University has been up and down very inconsistent team law via to me the the better team and like you said they lost by point at Boston in the first game. This is going to be a very tight. Spread as well so I think Lafayette has been good enough here in their last six or seven games that they would be the side prefer in this game to draw a crossword analogy here. It's kind of like looking at somebody like Brooks Capco. Where like he just shows up in majors. You know I mean the tournaments. Yeah that's cool. I'M GONNA go out there and grab a paycheck but oh it's the US Open. Oh it's a major. Oh It's a Fedex Cup playoff event. I'M GONNA go win this thing. Lafayette sort of feels the same thing where they get these spotlight games. They're like all right. It's time to go and get some of these other games like losing at home to Lehigh. We're just kind of like whatever you really want to try and dig into the body of work of some of these teams because you see eight and six and Patriot league play against ten in four and Patriot league play and Lafayette may very. Well be a favorite here in this game. Maybe by a point or so beaten colgate twice like they have a ceiling. They have upside. Those are things you want to look at not just at this point in the regular season but also once we get to those conference tournaments as well how about we head on down to the so con- firm and East Tennessee state. One that you mentioned here and you and I love the so-called on this show. Yeah so cons really good. Yeah I don't think people realize how good so come on spent here. I like East Tennessee state as a team lot I think Steve Forbes really good coach The buccaneers lost at Furman Back on January fourth sixty five to fifty six and in that Game East Tennessee state was five for twenty three on three pointers and three for nine from the free. Throw Line also very interesting. That Bo. Hodges who's a very good player for them was to for seven from the Free. Throw line you know. He's not a sharp shooter by any means but he's sixty six percent from the line overall so a very bad shooting night for East Tennessee state net. First Game I like Tennessee state in this game. And and here's the thing is that they come off a a win at BMI where they really were not ready to go in that game. They had to come back from from behind I think they trailed by about ten points. They trailed by eight with thirteen minutes left. Bo Hodges didn't play in that game I would want to check on his status. I don't I don't know if he's injured or not of be something to follow up on Hodges is an important part of the to this team. I will say that I think East Tennessee state is a team. Where I'm I WANNA bet on this team late in the season I think Forbes. Has his team really ready to go? good revenge bought for them. Think Furman is a good team but east Tennessee state. Probably the higher upside team Firm is not quite as experienced either. So as long as he's GonNa See. State is at least relatively healthy than I would want them going for me here in the spot. Yeah I like this one. I think you're on the right track. These Tennessee state as well. And this is a discussion for another day. But I know that East Tennessee States. Kinda got some consideration. Possibly an at large team if they don't win the so conference tournament these teams. I want to feel man like I know. We're GONNA get eleven big ten teams or whatever where you know. What maybe they're all good but maybe they're all bad. Maybe that's why they are not beating each other you know maybe they can't beat the upper echelon types of teams are going to face in the NCAA tournament. Give me an East Tennessee. Man Gimme a firm and Gimme one of those mid major conferences. That is really good is very efficient is very talented. But just doesn't get a chance to play against those top cop those top tier teams. Because they don't WanNa play you. Don't give me those teams in the tournament. That's what I WANNA see. Yeah I agree. I think that you know this is a team aware. You know. I'd like to see what they can do against a good team you know. Let's see what they can do against one of those Teams where where You know they don't get to play against them. Usually you know we see The you know a team like you tennissee. Status is generally going to be playing against other small Mid major teams teams like that. They're not going to get the plague. It's the middle of the pack. Ten team middle packed biggies team or something like that I was looking this up as I was talking here to bow. Hodges mess last game to death in the family. So condolences on that in and watch a check his status as far as whether he would will be playing in this game. I do think that matters quite a bit in the interest of time here. I'm going to cut down the list of games here a little bit. I don't want to overextend either one of us here too much on this Monday. Show so we'll go to the game that you want to talk about here for Thursday night. 'cause getting this was way under the radar but since you send it over you know. Everyone's going to accept it a little bit more. Vermont and Stony Brook the two top teams in the America East conference they square off here on Thursday night. Yeah we we have to talk about this game because Vermont Loss Stony Brook. And what was that the first game of the conference? I think that was the first game. They played in league. Play Vermont as one every game since then Stony Brook. You know. They look like okay. Maybe they could compete with them then. They've lost some really bad losses. Here they lost owned Binghamton Pretty inexcusable they lost by seventeen at New Hampshire It's it's really hard to to know what to make of this stony brook team. You know. Vermont's GonNa give them their their best effort here. You Know Vermont. So I'm going to overlook this game. I wonder what this line will be. Ken Palm. Has This when it four? I assume this this line will be bigger than four. If this if this line is Vermont minus four I'll Bet Vermont in this game I do WANNA bet Vermont here. Vermont hasn't been quite as dominant as what some people expected them to be. But I think Vermont is just the much more Balanced team well rounded team. Stony Brook not the veteran team. Either Vermont has the leader and Anthony Lamb. Who has just a far better player than anybody else. In this league. I think Vermont comes in here wins and likely covers. I think this is a really good spot for them. Vermont has played a lot of close games on the road. They one by one at Hartford. They had a close game at main But they've played better year in the last couple of games and they've they've had several blowouts here in the last five or six games. I think they're rounding into form. I can't say the same thing about Stony Brook. I think this is a really good road. Revenge spot I like this one. I like the road. Revenge Angle here late in the season in particular with really good teams. That have been there. Done that element to them where Vermont. They're always in the running for this conference tournament. They're almost always get the auto bid here they know what's at stake here in the month of March and when they go on the road in that short favorite role where they just are the better team. 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Episode 83 Jonathan Downey (JD)  Hospitality Union

Humans of Hospitality

52:29 min | 5 months ago

Episode 83 Jonathan Downey (JD) Hospitality Union

"Welcome to the humans of hospitality. Podcast with me Mark Crib and Just pretty sure intro to this one. I've just had a catch up with JD. Jonathan Downey from Hospital Eighty Union and London Union so J. D.'S. The Guy Behind Milk and Honey Street Feast Diner Rama at all sorts of amazing venues up in London and wanted to have a quick catch up with him. He's also been sort of been the voice. I suppose of some of the independent hospitality sector in the mouse. Couple OF MONTHS FROM SETTING UP HIS WHATSAPP GROUP. That became a very big. What's up group and now has a website and he's doing all sorts of stuff to help represent the views of independent hospitality government and as be behind specifically I guess national timeout. So this idea on nine months rent free for the hospitality sector in doing that in a way that has some sort of government support but also works for the landlord as much as possible and worse for the tenants and he's probably realistically the the most Biggest thing after furloughing the can really help provide some sort of glimpse of hope for the future of hospitality in this country. Before the next quarter's rent is Ju- so with the legislation. The rex changing all of the time. I wanted to have a catch with JD. And just get the latest on that and then we just chew the fat a little bit around what the future might look like and mass and screens alfresco dining can relax the regulations with people with outside space before inside space. That might look like across the country. So because it's very time specific. I wanted to get it out. Same Day so please listen. I hope you enjoy it as always if you can support the podcast go to humans of Hospitality. Dot UK. Click on the Patriot league. Can you can make a donation by the tip jar to keep us on the air. All sign up for our weekly newsletter. Okay thanks so much enjoying the episode and I'll back with you soon. Okay Jonathan Danny thank you so much for coming back onto the podcast hugely appreciated where you in the World J. D. A. You up in your office or you ever in the streets. I mean my new Home Office which is in Boston. And we're desperately trying to get out of the lease on our head office Shortage at the moment alone. There is just not doesn't seem to understand the way the world's changed our rents and property rights business rights there about two hundred thousand pounds a year. That's a cost we could well do without and so the moment I was working from home on my kitchen table with my business partner Rick. Another colleague Kerry comes round from time to time. And then we've got two or three other people so working remotely occasional visits but generally. I'm pretty good position. Actually because I've got a nice little garden Jim out the back Harry. One of the guys I work with is his cross fit. And so we do this. Harry's bootcamp five days a week which is great every morning did yoga for an hour today as well so astronomical to healthy salad lunch and some water melon for dessert go. That's not the J. D. That we know as the cocktail coffin kind of base with thought Hewlett. Well what I'm doing an interview the other day. I thought you're looking fit and healthy. Which is good. Because you've somehow become the sort of national representative of independent hospitality. I suppose somehow maybe slightly accidentally maybe slightly on purpose in the last few months. Oh thanks for what you're doing. I'm since we last had to catch up When we did that hospitality union didn't necessarily exist in it in its current guys. Can you just talk a little bit about that? And what made you set? It knew who the members our most what is full. Yes sure so. I mean you say a representative accidentally and two large extent. Regrettably and I don't feel as though I represent anybody I just feel like I am almost like a funnel for the views of a lot of people so for instance I asked. I posted something on whatsapp group. So we set up. This WHATSAPP group is south. This WHATSAPP group on the sixteenth of March. Which is the same day that Boris had set to everyone to avoid pope's clubs in theaters another social venues and it was just in the in the afternoon of ends in the morning of that day and prior to that. I just been texted individually texting. What's happening old mates and people in the industry? I knew and it was just taking me too long so put them all in one group. I think invited to and fifty people in the end at just people on you in the industry and everybody joined and everybody stayed and then it grew to another group. And we've now got over three thousand people and Most of them are known to Mayo known to existing members. All they've been semi verified by my colleague Julia as being onus business owners in hospitality senior operators his oil they work in the press or property appeal or something on recruitment of something related to our industry and so as I say over three thousand people in the now hundreds of messages sometimes thousands of messages each week loads of feedback. I think there's there's an organization called the Independent Restaurant Coalition that was set up in the US in the immediate aftermath of what's been happening with this virus and where little bit similar to that. I think we represent a broad spectrum of Hospitality operators than perhaps anyone else hero elsewhere at just because he's solve Iraq tackle group of you know individuals and another Suv ole entrusted in. What's going on you know? Wants to share and slaps date with things. So it's been really useful for me to hear everyone's position and opinions and I try and cook out and edit down a lot of it and then just trying to pass it on as kind of light very unique I suppose voice but also to some extent unified voice and when. I think I'm about to say something that could become diverse. Show unusually sense. Check it with the group and I'll get loads a messages back. Say No I think you're I while I would do that. I don't agree with that. And then you know tone it down a bit old I'll etc so I think yeah. Put independent voices is I think is the right way of saying it. Don't really feel like. I'm representing anybody else directly. I think if I did I would have to behave differently. I you know I won't be allowed to say what I think I you know is the right thing to say. I want to be allowed to take positions on things and be opinionated. If need be you know I am not some kind of organization. Aborted that needs has reputational risk issue or needs to be controlled all considered in some way or needs to have a consensus. You know so it's it's a bit more Of A free independent voice. Suppose in that respect it feels a little bit Rebellious is probably. Excuse me but yeah. It's definitely got a bit of personality. I think represents you know the the the other side of our sector. I suppose it's the you know the giant global the Hiltons. Compasses and the big guys. But it feels like a much more. Yes Motor operates motivated. Who really in the thick of things I suppose with a pandemic and maybe the financial implications are perhaps more personal than just having in a big bowl to shareholders. I'm sure there's there's mixed group in there I'm but as well as the ball set which has been brilliant an annual conduit for so fast information and your access to I'm some of the press contacts and and get in the name in the press has been brilliant but also a website also have been writing to the government you wrote to them. I think national. Timeout was one of your key campaigns. You had someone twenty signatures on that. That's the represented a lot of a lot of people and you started doing video. So has it morphed into more than you expected it to us both when you saw it as a whatsapp chat. Yeah I did. I think we became much more of a campaign in Thing that wasn't again originally the planet was just more of a like a loud voice. We've also I think looked at ways of getting a bit more structure to it because I was just being overwhelmed with too much messages. England requests people with the beginning of all this people terrified before the s before some of these other measures business owners which is terrified because they had the most to lose if you one cafe two pubs. You'll losing everything if we don't get some of these things sorted out it's not just a question of loss a dropping revenue or a reduction in dividend. Or you know or a bonus in a loss of bonus these people are losing their entire livelihoods and I was really motivate from the outset to save jobs. You know. That's what was kinda getting me out of bed earlier than I've ever been my life before and it was really stimulates housing so it's become a bit more structured a bit more organized is still really just me we've got. I've got Jim Bell helping with the PR. She's got lots of other things to do as well Matt. Sanders is working with me for a while. But he's had to go. Ultra Paul Time. Now he can do a few hours a week. It's all been completely funded by me at the moment. I think I'm about thirty five thousand pounds in the whole with all the graphic design. The video. Still Jemma mass time etc Sony. To think about how long can maintain not fall? But I'm not worried about that at the moment. I just want to try and get this national timeout salted in a deal done on rents before the rents apocalypse at the end of June happens. Yeah perfect although there was some really big things and some of them with your voice and others were chief really quickly. So the end of the furlough scheme was an absolute game changer. We had the The sort of moratorium I guess on on Brennan Insolvency. But let's start with timeout. Because that's one of the reasons I wanted to get an update. So you know you've you've been a particularly good. I suppose at turning what was a very loose idea. A couple of months ago into You know thing it's GonNa to strap flowing. There's been a lot of people now using that sort of national timeout. You've got a lot of very famous chefs and restaurateurs will back in it so it looks like he's got some huge momentum. What's the latest on? What your level of confidence I suppose. On getting the result of that yeah. I think we've been really successful at getting national time out. As like the bus the everybody gets behind pushes you know and that was kind of the plan from the outset. Because I was concerned I knew we needed to do something on rent and I was concerned that with too many different interests too many conflicting interest within our industry and they were going to be so many different requests of messages and it was open. Get confused and it was going to get somebody and treasury to come up with an idea that wasn't gonNA be in. No phone wasn't when he quite right so I was really keen to get something out early as an umbrella like a banner behind which we can all March chancing national time out national timeout without really specifying in any great data walk. That might be so. I thought an also national timeout is not controversial. So it's easy to support for people the said I'm calling for a national timeout. We'd polls we sit down. We agree a deal blah blah. That's that seems like good sense. We're going to sit down and sort this out. I'm behind you yet but Nathan. I then suggested as a minimum will hospitality businesses. What most hospitality businesses? What almost all hospitality. Businesses need is nine months national rent free and will help land by backing that with nine month. Debt repayment bright. That's what I'm saying now every hospitality business especially those that have been open and trading through the whole of the lockdown takeaway delivery especially some of the chains that are opening already with the drive-thrus excetera now all of these businesses will need nine months national rent free so I knew that outset. But this is our opening sean. This is our opening request. You know this is a negotiation with government regarding tenants and landlords and so. I think I'm glad we've got national time out now on the gender. It's on it's online. It's everywhere it's on TV it's imprint. It's you know it's become the thing and some there's been some great big voices in our industry saying out. I loved listening to our Murdoch CEO. Burger King mentioned it three times on Newsnight. You know a couple of weeks ago. It's it's good that that's happening. And now we need to get to grips with the detail of what it means. I thought that Treasury with come back with some issues and some questions some concerns and lots of that has been fed back to me informally in the way that a lot of things we've dealt with a few weeks ago with the with the irs with lease forfeiture moratorium. I've kind of got this. Informal sort of feedback system. Where an I respond to that. But that's just not happen because and the reason is rent rent solution is not been a priority for these last few weeks. That's changed in the last few days and I it is becoming a will be the new products in the next few weeks because something has to be done. Otherwise know fifty percent of businesses two million jobs will be lost. So I'm I'm extremely confident. I'm very confident. I couldn't really be more confident. I guarantee something has to be done. It self evident his name something to be done by government to saw a rent solution needs to be delivered otherwise too many jobs lost. That's Goodman won't allow that to happen what that looks like. We don't know yet. I've got a very good idea of what it could look like. And now it's a negotiation an if I could just say also mark. The negotiation is not being helped by some of the new voices that have been coming into this conversation recently with their thoughts about what things could look like. You know. We don't need twenty thirty fifty different people negotiating this deal for is we need one two or three were all on the same page. Okay and I'm included in those two or three and UK hospitality. Kate Nichols included in those one-two-three. And maybe some other people too but we all need to get behind the same bus and the needs to be one lead negotiator and we support for the best and most reasonable deal. The most achievable deal we can. That does the best for the most and that is what. I'm trying to do over the next few weeks. And it's one of the reasons why I wanted to catch up with you because it's been driving me bonkers as well you know. There's there's also various localized kind of WHATSAPP groups or membership groups and a couple down here in the south and you see these conversations. Even this morning people were kind of putting out there. We can arrange a meeting together so that we can go to the council for example Attended though as Atlanta to a number of US and start negotiations at and sometimes you feel that you know you missing this surely surely our best hope at the moment is to all stand behind this national time our not splinter and not go off and do all different things at somebody else writes about all best case scenario to get three months fifty percent or three months free and you'll see every time kind of national timeout natural timeout. It's being worked on. I think maybe people are starting to panic because we coming closer to the next quarter and the and they're feeling they need to go out and again I personally. I'm kind of how our earth do you negotiate currently for anything? That's does worse than a nine months because we don't know what reopen is going to let you know if if the rex come out that say that you know it definitely is to me is between each table and Y'all GonNa Learn lose seventy percent of your covers. It's so unviable. The what's the point of negotiating a rent reduction of this? Show that point. If you can't even open the doors it has to be nine months rent free so share that and Yeah thanks for continuing to bang the drum. The biggest question you always get is how to landlords took with this. Can you just talk a little bit about what is quite difficult to explain with words and without pictures but I I've produced an illustration and try and talk through it now but I can't guarantee you'll make sense if you send it to me pop in the world but yeah talk for basically if if you're most landlords set down commercial premises a borrowed against the security of the premises that letting hospitality businesses typically? That's about sixty to seventy percent of the value the premises. So if you look at for instance as an example a building site that led to a restaurant or a bar pub operates over one hundred and twenty thousand pounds a year and we ask for nine months rent free on the face of it. That's a ninety thousand nine hundred thousand pounds of rent of income. That landlord is lost. Except it's off because he will have borrowed that landlord he or she. That company will have borrowed a significant amount of money on depending on the value of that. They're probably paying. I don't know eight hundred thousand pounds a year of interest secured on those premises that. They're getting a hundred twenty thousand pounds of income from so if you give that landlord a nine month repayment break that sixty thousand pounds of interest. They don't have to pay for the nine months. So they're not losing out on the nine hundred thousand they. Losing nine hundred thousand miners sixty thousand. They're only losing out on thirty thousand pounds okay. And that's fundamentally what people who are suggesting. That tenants need to share the pain. And that we need to find a middle ground. Don't understand those are the maths of most commercial premises the hospitals operators. You know operation so y when they're not missing out on the ninety thousand then missing out on thirty thousand and then you go further up the chain. The bank is also taking a margin and it will take a hit small and the people who provide the money to the bank deposit. People put bank deposits bondholders. The Bank of England. They will be taking that slice and he's about spreading it all out and that's been the plan from the outset. I've not been very good at communicating because it is complicated and I have tried to talk through some very big brains including some Harvard economics graduates and it still is quite hard to get your head around which is why I've tried to turn into an illustration or kind of an example and I think if the penny on that for a lot of people and then I think and government especially then I think more people will get behind. The idea and more people will see that actually nine months rent free or something. Not Too far off from is quite achievable. And it's reasonable but more importantly it's what's needed for these hospitality businesses to survive and if they don't survive they won't carry on being rent paying tenants much longer. You know now that that makes sense and and it seems pretty clear but yet send the illustration there's also this point you still refer into this about the idea of adding the nine months onto the end of people's leases. That proved more complicated. I think again I think here you have to give the power to the landlord if the land load again the idea came from me getting feedback from some of the what the Hospitality Union. What to say some guys at agree to six months rent? Free in return for five years added onto the end of the lake. You know people are negotiating. Deals like that individually. So that's one idea. The other idea is just depends on the length of lease so for instance at my site in Canary Wharf. I think I've got seven years left. I could get nine months rent free and then I could spread out nine months or part of it over the remaining term of my lease in the way that I've just applied for a three-month mortgage repayment break on my house and the that three months then spread out over the remaining term of the mortgage or something's eleven years. You know that Shit not manageable. You know so there's things there's different ways of doing it and I think you you you give the option to the landlord to decide what they would prefer whether I prefer the extension to the lease or whether they prefer it to be spread out over the term of the lease Dina. Rauma for instance. I don't want it spread out over the remaining terms of the Mali staff. Because I want to go two years and we're paying four hundred fifty thousand pounds a year rent so I don't know what nine nine twelve four thousand pounds is but I don't will not spread over the next two years of the least because it's just it's lost too much so there are? There are edge cases in details. You know it would be too boring to go into now mark but you know there are ways that we can deal with everything pretty much. We can do everything. So what's your hope? Paul or strategy with the government and they provide a sort of a framework for this kind of negotiations. Where it's almost like you've got option. Abc or you hoping that they're going to be very specific will do expect people to to negotiate different deals with different landlords would like them to do is like what they did with the jrs and just take the big idea. You know what we're GONNA do Everyone needs it on fellow. We're GONNA pay them eighty percent of that or Massive percentage of what would they would be earning to keep employee's next to businesses. We can reopen them bounce back at some point in the future. That's the big idea right. This is just the say. That's why I called a big idea unless it's the chancellor his big idea please come up with something. It won't be perfect but you did a brilliant job with the JRS. One do a brilliant job with the National Tom. And in the meantime we should be campaigning. For the best deal we can get because not because being greedy or trying to take advantage but because this is what we need to keep going. Landlords need us to stay in business. The ones that are kind of up to speed on this. You know understand that there are few absolute fucking idiots. It just don't seem to get it and just holding on and holding them specially in London. Where if you know your ten goes out of business you'll probably gonNA find someone to take over the site especially in central London. We send these people at criterion capital and these dome wet and the Landlords Union. That was set up. I don't if you saw that in the positive because we assume that was aimed at you. What a bone. She scoundrels in like they were like straight out of central casting villains and Mike yet but I why refer government to. Do I think what you care? Hospitality has been asking for a summit meeting which is a good idea. As long as I'm at it and I don't want I really don't want and I you know I hesitate to say this but I have to say this. Uk hospitality cannot be negotiating. This deal for everybody in who owns the hospitality business in the UK? They cannot be. Go shooting it. They have got a very up to narrow a remits from the members from the board from that council to represent the whole industry. So I'm very happy very important that they are there. It's key that they all that but they cannot be the so negotiator for everybody in hospitality in the UK. And I'm sure that won't be the case. Yeah how is that It looks from the outside that you to complement each other very well as opposed because I think you represent a slightly different demographic and a different side of the market is that recognized and is that relationship sort of healthy. I think Kay is is great and said it from the outset. I think I don't really WANNA get into. I think about anything else to do with UK hospitality. I've I've already said probably a bit more than I want to. I I just you know. There's some great people on that council. I one person on the board. That is great and I think what's Hospitality Union is doing is Raising the profile of our industry. Different way campaigning. In a different way and also I hesitate to say represent but is a voice for a huge paw of a different sector of our industry. We we're acting for acting for the wrong phrase we are listening to an a megaphone for the tenants of pubs. Not The pub Coz that own them you know and there's a big difference in interest there you know not. Surprisingly the pope goes didn't want a national time out. Don't want a national rent free. You know wants to take the grant money from tenants that were under the fifty one thousand pound Batesville value threshold pay. Rent for the period of lockdown at every pub cope but a lot of them. And I just think that's bonkers. That was a very tactful. Answer Weldon. Jd I'm impressed. I think what you represent as your new. You alluded to this just now. Is that in some some of the people and as you say you don't represent them your your channel. I suppose of our energies and our fears and our aspirations is that for many of US businesses that we've built up over ten fifteen twenty years longer in our houses our cars these literally on the line. Someone bigger groups is a board of directors and is a balance sheet and some shares and it's fluctuations in short-term annual profits. But I think where we want you around. That table is the some people don't recognize. Just how is and that? We will not be here eight by significant margins if we don't get some sort of significant response and I I've been the same you know when I was telling people in the early days comes. I think more people are getting it now. Now is not the time to negotiate. Most of you don't realize just how shack this industry is. GonNa be full quite some time. And if we don't think bigger it's no good going in and asking for two months or six weeks it won't be enough particularly anywhere in the in the sort of tourist areas. You know. I'm right at the moment okay. I'll get through the window the for the summer on a personal level but how on earth we get through the winds up in the fact that that won't be so much ALFRESCO space. And what will people be thinking but we just Kennel make enough money in a in the summer to get through the winter so I think if you know the you're not gonNa have any way to live and that motivated than you want. Somebody sat round the table united. Yeah shouts a bit louder and on demand open more with a bit more passionate. I suppose and you do that very well. Jd Okay good are doing then. Thank you very much. I'M GONNA move off office topic. Very short is one. The government response so far on that. It doesn't feel like you're pushing on an open door and they let you say this is about to be the next priority. Yes I was told that yesterday. So they're all I know who's ready knows given it to you know. I don't mention any names. I was being fed stuff in the early days. And you know on a no names basis and you're not to mention when I you know I just don't want to spoil. That channel is good enough for me. If you say you know message over to compromise those channels I think you know and listen. Uk hospitality them. Absolutely fantastic job at getting into a directly a direct link and very influential link into government. We are recognized as a key industry. Now we they listen to us you know and It's it's been incredibly effective that merger of the or wherever else it was that made you metality has had outstanding results. And you can see for yourself in the last few weeks with you know what's been achieved so. I you know we can all take some comfort from that. I'm a just a bit concerned. That perhaps the full spectrum of interests isn't being represented and so I gotTa keep my eye open on that and sort of like the guy Sometimes when I perhaps that's really priority absolutely. I think you need both. I think you know yeah complement each other really well. Yes that that legacy and that you know many years of a relationship and history and to be fair you're the same it's much better to To keep doors open and keep communications open and for people to work together but at the same time It's okay to be two vocalists and to press and Push Leo. Bahar to the maybe other people wouldn't I think most people recognize that isn't that you don't want everybody just to be nodding and smiling in the room. So yeah I think I think you walk in the line. Well J. D. and you mentioned yesterday some so moving away from From rents and hopefully we can maybe catch up again in a in a few weeks. Hopefully they'll just be a national solution and that will be enough for us but the other thing the came out yesterday was the insolvency. I know you've been speaking about that again for the last couple of months. That was going to be the other big issue is there's lots of restaurant groups groups who people sometimes big amounts of cash little bit success and could easily be pushed into insolvency fall to early I know you read it or try to. I know it's complicated. But can you give us any kind of update on on how that's progressing? And what more needs to be done? Well I've been shouting and begging for a debt enforcement moratorium since March the eighteenth. And it's been on my list of six things that I thought we needed as an industry to save through this on. It's the only one of the sixth that they've not come up with yet. It's been long promised I think six weeks ago. Now the Business Secretary Alec Sharma said it was coming at. The delay is because this is going to be permanent registrations. Uk Law for a long time. It's not just a temporary corona virus built-up legislation so. They've got to get it perfectly rights and so forever. More at least forfeiture moratorium is now going to be part of UK law which is good a more respect. It means that if you are eight struggling tenants and your landlord is threatening to repossess and change the locks etc you can now apply for a company moratorium which will give you twenty days to propose a rescue plan at twenty days extendable if you need more. Sukur driven process which is a bit boring which means you probably need a lawyer or an insolvency practitioner to help you draft it and if a rescue plenty is reasonable and approved by the coal than it's binding on creditors in all sorts of details on that and what not though it's not enforced moratorium and I can't see as such the moment what what I the reason I wanted at that enforcement moratoriums because that would have given landlords the breathing space. They needed the break. They needed to provide rent-free for tenants. So when I initially asked for lease forfeiture moratorium which I think was number. Three number four was enforcement. Moratorium the to go together because that would have enabled that would help to landlords. Agree immediately. Rent-free deals because of they wouldn't be paying their interests they will have to repay their loans. That's kind of moratorium on that. And that's not that's not appeared as far as I can see in this new legislation which is a big disappointment. So it's not a full tick on my list is kind of like a third of a tick and I don't really know where that leaves us. Come the end of June when the existing lease forfeiture moratorium runs out. We've expected that that would be extended. You know since day one pretty much and we still hope that it will be. I'm a little concerned that the now bringing in this twenty day company moratorium which includes forfeiture moratorium might mean they won't extend the General National Moratorium. But you know maybe that's not the case but if it is the case that's a big problem for a lot people and just was mangled that means that means that site let's say we The is it the June. The one runs out and that literally landlords can concern up For eight hours later and take possession of a premises. Not how it works. It depends on the lace. But it's usually a month or twenty one days later if you've not paid your rent if you've been told you need to than they can just change the locks and repossess the premises and again. It's a particular problem in cities where you've got voluble premises on high footfall sites and there's this kind of this land. Grab this rush to take back. Premises that vote multimillion pound fits outs etc etc. It will also be an issue. Fiona Beautiful Pope in the countryside in Norfolk or in Yorkshire. And you've been running an you know taking a making money there and you landlords a bit of a Dick and he's he loves Your Business and would love to get hold of it but you can't pay your rent and they can change the locks and all of a sudden they own it they stick him management and not only they getting that rents that also getting all the prophet. The person spent the last five ten that entire life building. Open to a brilliant business. So that that's what I'm trying to stop. Why thought we needed lease full. Sodium in the first place and it's why we needed extending beyond the end of June to lease the end of September. So we can agree a national timeout or idea to the end of the year. And I think this is. This is my fair as an operator as well and I'm reflect lots of other people. I've spent a million pounds on a restaurant. It's a great location because it's right on the front and other be plenty of people you know. I can't pay my rent. The moments no. It's not won't pay it's account pay. We were living on fumes coming out of the window into all summer season. But the fear is that you know the council could easily rent that to somebody else with big pockets. I could sit there and go. Even if we're not allowed to open for the next two years I could spend a couple of hundred grand just sat on that restaurant. Leave it closed. But when it reopens. I've still got a million restaurant hundred K. basically and that's that's the catastrophic scenario that we currently facing presumably. Yes exactly exactly. I say they spent two million quid on giant robot in Canary Wall. Can't pay the rent there. I was nine hundred thousand pounds a year rent rates on that site. So that's a big a big cost This year all I don't think I don't know how many people are gonNA go back to work in the office in the towel blocks in canary wharf to make it worthwhile. I reopen that for the next eighteen months. Maybe you know and milk. And honey the CY ahead in Soho. For years paid nearly four million in rent. Their landlord wants one percent of the rent. No rent free no break no nothing the only concession that can paid monthly in advance. So you know without at least forfeiture moratorium without you know all these protections that we've now got that's all gone. That is a very valuable late license site in so whether have been no new late licenses thing eighteen years now. I think that that license was probably worth a million off. Two million quit before this virus has a you know and it could all be taken off me. I doubt very much will reopen milk in the only thing I can do. That is surrender the license so that my land grabbing. Wanka landlord doesn't get the benefit of and I'll have to do that. You know so i. I is is heartbreaking when you hear stories like that just 'cause milk and honey schools such a phenomenal reputation such legacy. It's been there for so many years. It was so much of the The Cultural Revolution. I suppose yeah for things like that to go go under the Times. Lightness is a is a sad face. Yeah purely just lack of understanding. It's not it's not difficult to comprehend the level of the challenge but also like you say the comparative little amount of support that it needs not meant free and and it could will be different. It's bunk Okay well I don't want you to stop getting anymore. And so let's move a little bit into what reopening might light you. You mentioned that about whether it'd be worth opening a tool so a lot starting to look to that and is it alfresco dining for example is is it dying inside. Uk All specialty. I think it was yesterday outlast Reports is a seventy five page document. I've not had a chance to read it yet. Have you had a challenge or any thoughts on it while I would have liked to have seen it before it was sent into treasurer? And I'm very disappointed. I wasn't give a chance given a chance to chip in props comment but it's goal now. I I've not read the whole time to read seventy five pages. One of the first things said was seventy five pages who does not detailed. I think it's a mistake to be doing. Things like demonizing salt and pepper potts. I know we're trying to help with the idea of removing salt and pepper potts. No the infection can be passed that way but I do think we've got a massive issue now with this kind of new project. Fear of people being frightened of coming to venues Baas restaurants wherever as and we've got to stop making things like salt and pepper potts dangerous or met one use menus etc. Yes they're all helpful and if a single if a business wants to do that if they want to shout about that's what they're doing they should be allowed to do it but as far as I think just the wrong. I think it's the wrong message. I think saying one meets distancing will accept that is is the wrong message but is probably. This is probably not the time to go into that. Mock I think I think a much better message would be smaller capacity. Venues should be quite have any kind of distancing because that is just not it just doesn't work and if the all value is down as low as it is in London at the moment and that continues and remains the case if as we've seen Austria which Relaxed its lockdown on April the fourteenth. There's been no second. Spike has been no new wave. If as it seems allow this could change the viruses. Just petering out if as we seem to know now. The outside seating outs outside infection is negligible. Then why are we talking about? We'll meet to distancing outside. You know why. We're talking about one me to distancing if a ten person terrace you know it's I. I don't think we should be volunteering. These new measures because they will remain with us and a longtime and only well resourced well funded organizations are going to be able to survive if you put these in place so yes. They might work for McDonald's but no they don't work for milk and honey you know so. I think that there needs to be an acknowledgment and I think that generally is that is different strokes. You know So we'll see where we end up but I. We need to get opening safely unfazed outside areas especially immediately. I've got no idea why things can't be open in the next few days at people be ready to go. Maybe not with food because we got supply line issues and a workplace issues about people working in kitchens and proximity and safety there but a couple of people or one person behind the ball working by themselves in pope with an outside. You know a pavement station or big garden. Let's get it open. Let's allow people to make their own choices about whether they want to go there or not. In a way that they're making their own choices about whether they go to the beach or not in the way that making their own choice about where they go and sit in the park along with other people in the way they chose about where they go to the supermarket or not you know let people make their own choices now. We know we have never been so well informed about something as we are about covid nineteen. We are able to make our own choices now. The the reason we would allow to make our own choices was because we didn't want to overwhelm the NHS got through that we've achieved our you know what is the reason. Now we're not being allowed to make our own choices. I I don't I don't know and government needs to tell us or give needs to allow us to a gradual faced safe reopening before the fourth of July. Why do we need to wait another six seven weeks? Whatever it is that's crazy. I've said it a few times hospitality. We are experts in food safety. We are experts in cuffs customer safety. We can be trusted. We'VE GOT INITIATIVE INNOVATION. We care about people we spend our lives looking after people we might not be. Nhl Workers but we do look after people and we really know what we're doing and we can be trusted with it and they should allow us to get there within a reasonable framework within some phase controls and without the need sued demonize salt and pepper potts. I agree I think safety wise. You know you look. We saw shellfish on on the beach. You Look Salmonella. You look at chicken you look under pork you know. Every day we have the life and death of our customers in our hands if we if we don't follow processes you know you're putting something in your body with the we didn't talk about. This kind of stuff is just expected that you trust us not to poison. We could very easily. But of course we don't because we love our customers and everybody's trying and food hygiene in the O. We all in many ways over the next to kind of you know care and ATS and health in such a clean environment to operate because we've got to look after your health and your wellbeing. So I I agree. Some trust is required. And actually in the we've reopened our take away an interesting takeaways of being able to open all the way through this but I'll one specifically is on the seafront and it didn't feel right in the fat. You only be on the beach if you were going out. Maybe few hours daily exercise and clearly. You really have a bear or slice of pizza if you're exercising but as soon as far as said Unites. Okay you can go and sit in the Sun will. We'll be okay but actually encouraged a away right on the beach and we looked at the REX for the kitchen was which was seen a particularly complicated but actually is to meet his way possible and there are some recommendations when it's not possible in it's Abou working in bubbles and it's about in to up station so that you're not facing each other but the next each other we've put the alarms go off in the kitchen. Every twenty twenty five minutes insists on a clean down. We've got account counter. The public come up to which is cleaned visibly in every single customer. Cool WITH ONE TIME. We sanitize each time you give him little buzzes to come back and pick up your foods. You don't need to wait in the queue and those a sanitized between each and this isn't because somebody wrote it down. Regulated at a made overly onerous sat there and used our brain for specific circumstances and said look. This is the best that we can do. I do worry. Sometimes that Sir we make things more complicated than they need to be with the right intentions. And like you say some of the big groups who will be worried about their insurance and their teams and being sued. I suppose maybe need that struck just to say well look we did all of this and therefore where okay but in in our sector. Most teams often work together. Ten fifteen years is tightly unit. They WANNA get last work. And we don't want we don't want to harm then we've will got kids grandparents. We want to look after each other. But yeah let's not make it more complicated than it needs to be. You should take a little video of what you do each time. You serve a customer. That's fantastic protocols and measures that you make and speedy thirty seconds just say look this is what we do is as an industry. This is how we do it. You know I mean People don't realize you we've gotta find new ways of communicating clearly. You know how good we are good. How Brilliant Nice that. You're just talking about that. I mean I I want to those Lens but you know you can learn from others and Shit we bet OPA game these guys are kicking ass sanitizing and cleaning down and etc. You know nothing. You'll see pre Pratt and a great job with their screens. You know. And they've got reopen and you don't need it doesn't feel wit that we had going into a press and this Sunday Miana perspex screen. It would feel very where you walks into my local boozer and some extending beyond the perspex screen. But you know think we do what we can wear. We can and what? We'll do be absolutely brilliant and innovative. And you know we'll bleeding again like we have been for years and I do think that the public will decide on what level of risk. They're comfortable with them back. In the early days it was in those sort of people sat almost in in plastic perspex cubes in China and everybody was wearing Ma and I looked at that and I was like my God. I would rather not go out for dinner than go and say in that kind of environment. That's just not hospitality. Has We do it? But I think that doesn't stop us from doing a lot. Things like like you said with his own is why not just clean the salt and pepper shakers in between each service rather than insisting that they're shortly there are there are other ways of doing these things and now that you said communicate it with the public that the government do recommend that you do sort of. Covid nineteen risk assessment for your individual premise. And that you publish that premise to your that that risk assessments. You'll team but also you put it on the website and show to customers and I think as a customer if you went on that went. Yeah I'm I'm happy with that level of risk level of safety or no different people. Some people will want to go to a to a chain a practice. They believe they followed the seventy five pages of rules and regs and other people you know. I want to go to my local independent pub. Read what they've done and I'm happy with that. And we do need to give people the responsibility to grownups. I suppose executive. There is a bit of a concern. I think without having read in Great Dato that some of these you know. Find the five thousand employees businesses. We need these rules clearly defined by government so we can operate and we can say to our five thousand employees. This is how it got to do it guys going to be imposed on everybody and you know that's not a good thing. We've got to make sure that we can be allowed. You can be allowed to do your thing in the way that's best for Your Business and your people in will what feel customers with regard to allow that room and I you know in a not. Be You know Opening the door to all kinds of new rules and regulations. It happened in nightclubs. You know if there's a stabbing on a council estate near a nightclub then everyone so all of a sudden the metal detectors on the door you know it. It's gotta be there forever and then you got to have another security goldfish low book for that. It becomes more. It's more and more layers of unreasonable. And in many cases unnecessary cost on a business that not make unsustainable and we just gotTa do what people should be left to make their own decisions about what the best thing is an like you say and then the customer will decide you know agree hundred percent tariff is is is that yeah you know again well intentioned people come to life happens in the grey areas for Graham. I think actually it depends on your maybe political or opinion or perception of risk and guesses self-employed entrepreneurs. You know we're probably not always the best people to ask as we've probably got slightly higher risk strategy than some people but we're not gonNA be forcing people to go out but you know. I respect what Bora said is. It's much easier to regulate when we can just say everybody stay home but it's much harder to come out with the nuances of what safe. What's not safe and what you can do and I do think we're going to have to rely on people Took to be informed as you say they are informed. That was the council a couple of days down here boneless about reopening Montoya's and there was this debate about if we if we open the toilet on the beach. Is that GONNA encourage people to come to? The patient is that as a problem. And then the flip side of that debate was what people are gonNA come anyway and if not. That's going to be a huge health problem. They looked at all. We're GONNA need to semantically toy to insist. The only two people come a time and they cost the up and it was going to be fifty thousand pounds a week to tomatoes toilets. And again I think the you know the business sector on the front was I look. Please give people some commonsense. Put SOME SIGNS UP. That says only three people out in a time. Joel some lines on the ground. That says don't don't over encroach these and then It's management by exception rather than treating everybody as an idiot and that's what we're going to need. Yeah definitely good. I've taken up more time than I was planning. But thanks for that know. I found it really useful. Just wanted to get an update. I'm going to not not necessarily relaxed on the on the red negotiations. But I'm not gonNA panic in the next couple of weeks. At least I suppose and hopefully some sort of solution. I'm still excited. I've done a couple of CASS with some gas in Shanghai actually which was really interesting because obviously about eight weeks ahead of us and it was interesting to hear that the sort of level of fair I suppose when they first reopen the and the local police will come in and they were checking the me to that so they were checking. There was a meter between tables. Everybody was in temperature checked. Every delivery driver every customer every member of staff and it was all having to be locked than it was pretty onerous on even within eight weeks. The hasn't been a second spike. People have become more relaxed. It's not that they've changed the regulations that just enforcing the you know people using their common sense and and it's not it's not back to normal but it was. It was a little bit more optimistic. To hear the human beings doing what human beings do and go out and having some drinks so hopefully. There's a way for this. Jd thanks to spend the time. Is there any other particular topic that we've missed that you'd like to go over? We have any support. I suppose the people can give you some cash by the sounds of the cost of maybe at some point at some to me by. Camden town is very grateful for that. That in a case of beer didn't last long after say once it got cold and the people are caravan semi some coffee and not kept me going and no no more. I think You know I think we'll know a lot more tomorrow. We'll know a lot more next week will have a lot more next month. Hopefully and I think Y- with Def definitely be some kind of solution we just. I just hope it's in front of people really will see all right. Thanks Day. We'll keep in touch appreciate your time. All right no problem. Okay there you have it very much. Hope you enjoyed our chat and I'm always find it enjoyable catching up with D. And getting his opinion and he's a super energized super motiva- very enthusiastic really wants to see an industry that he and I know many of you love succeed and he wants to help save as many jobs as possible which I think is great. And he's got some some good ideas and he's getting some as important people in government and hoping represents which I think is fantastic. So fingers crossed. Things will continue to develop a key time. Now I think as we look to try and reopen. That might look like whether that's going to be economically viable. How many jobs we can save. We survive Windsor alfresco dining all sorts of stuff to come out. Hopefully the next few weeks and and I'm sure I'll catch up with jd again in the future as well as others around what's going on and what we can hope strategize and plan for if you could leave a review on apple podcasts. That would be fantastic. Really helps me out with algorithms and don't forget to humans of Hospitality Dakota UK. Sign up for our weekly newsletter and support. Us Viral Patriot page. Okay thanks so much.

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Impact If There's No Preseason & Potential of Spring College Football

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

39:35 min | 3 months ago

Impact If There's No Preseason & Potential of Spring College Football

"And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and bookie brooks. What's up? Everybody welcome to move the sticks Dj Bucky back with your book how you doing man. Good I'm good, just trying to work through audience certainty that is kind of clouding the world in the football world in particular. Yeah, that's we're going to get to today because we want to talk about. Some of the changes what it could look like from multiple fronts here with the college season. I think we'll get into this, but I do think there's a high likelihood. We get some form of spring football whether that could be you know the Ivy League. The Patriot League. Other Division One AA schools the group of five, maybe even some power five football in the spring, but we are going to get some spring football. What does that look like We're GONNA tackle that topic in just a little bit, but at the top. You know bucket. It's looking at sounding like from the people were talking to. There's a chance we have no preseason games. We'll bring about eighty guys into camp so lower roster numbers a longer ramp up time to get these guys ready, so we don't have a ton of injuries and then do your best. Keep these guys healthy to get to week one and that comes with a lot of ramifications. Yet does come with a lot of ramifications, but I do understand it I'll talk about it from the players side in the NFL PA going back to two thousand eleven. They had the lockout when guys. Returned Without Ota with all season workouts they were kind of thrust in the training camp and it was a way. They go in what happened that preseason? There are a lot of. Soft tissue injuries a lot of Achilles tears. Some ACL's and what the NFL. Pa what the players are trying to do. They just WANNA. Slow down the quick acceleration to being able to play football, so some of the things that have been outlined in our Tom Parrella Sarah NFL network has outlined a forty day. Run up to being able to play three days of medical equipment, a twenty one days of strength conditioning work within the weight room there on the feel trying to assist air conditioning and building themselves up. Two weeks fourteen days of non padded practices where they're now on the field kind of replicating the OJ portion of the season, and then ten days where you're going to have padded work with eight to ten pattern practices in there before you have your first game if they take that approach Dj, actually think it will be better and I think it would give. Give them an opportunity to have the product. Look like the product that we're accustomed to look. It won't be perfect. It won't be flawless, but I do believe if you take your time and give teams six weeks to get ready. I do believe we will see better football than trying to run up and get everything done before. Players are physically ready to go. Answer me this question. Because you. Also you know we're talking about a loss loss of revenue with the either the limit, the limiting number of fans or the fact, we have no fans in the stand, so there's a revenue gap there that they're saying could be what somewhere like four billion dollars or something like that loss of revenue. I know personally and I. Don't know if it may be just because we're hardcore but I have a sneaky phone is a lot of people like us. If we had no preseason games, but say you know we live in Los Angeles Los Angeles area. If. They were to say hey. Instead of giving you four charger preseason games for rams, preseason games. We're going to broadcast four live practices where they'll be some sort of inter-squad mingle. It could be seven on seven. I know personally if you told me right now that I can go in the other room and watch Casey Hayward and Keenan, Allen and one on ones. I'M GONNA. Go Watch it. There's nothing on TV that's going to be more entertaining than that to me. As a football guy, and I have a feeling that you're not going to get anywhere in the numbers that. That you would get. The preseason wasn't great anyways, but you're going to get. There's going to be something. There's going to be something there. You can put on and give to your fans. You can see your guys. I know as a baseball fan I can't figure out why they haven't put these inter squad games. These teams have been playing everyday on TV like. I'll watch those every day. It's funny that you mentioned that. Because the first thing that came to mind when you brought that idea up. Every team has what they call. A Fan fest that is to date coincides with the first live scrimmage, and it's a little ceremonial in terms of what this scrimmage looks like, but if you told the fans there, we're going to show three or To inner squad scrimmages that our full bore afford day as you talk about a fool lab scrimmage that culminates in one on one, good versus good seeing out favorite players play against. The other squat I absolutely believe that you could get it, and with the way that we have these streaming services I've seen highschool games streamed like now. I'm sure there's a way that you can do it. Particularly with the boom at Netflix's has experienced I think there's a way to utilize a streaming service to broadcast these games and to really take advantage. Desire in the thirst of your fan base while also putting a little money to own pockets. Yeah, so if we look at it from that standpoint, we looked at it from the players standpoint, not wanting to get injured and having that slow ramp up. Let's get to week one which I think all of our goal is right. Let's just it's going to be bumps in the road, but if we can just. Just get the things started. then. Maybe we can learn and adjust as we go along. I just wanted to get torpedoed before we even get to the first week of the season. So personally I'm okay with no preseason games and following this plan. We've looked at it from the players standpoint how about from a team standpoint from an organizational standpoint or what you gain what you might lose in the situation? I think we have to break it up I think we should have this discussion in like four different categories, the first category the veterans. What does it mean for the veterans? Not Having preseason games well I think the veterans would push not having preseason games, because because it puts him in advantageous situation, not the stores, not the top fifteen on the roster, but kind of like the middle class the class. will carry favor with coaches because of their experience and their knowledge in these situations, coaches want to be able to trust their players, and they have a tendency to trust veteran players because they know how they they're going to play. They're familiar with their games. Their strengths and weaknesses, and they're okay compensating for some of their deficiencies, because they know their knowledge will allow them to do more stuff. Yeah, and we're going to get to a similar topic here on what's going to have these college kids with the Spring and the decision and who benefits and who who's going to suffer from it to me I I use the Gulf analogy like those those middle of the road veterans. They're already in the clubhouse. They've posted their score. We know what they are right. Maybe there you know one under one over not not great, but I know what they are versus some other guy who might be able to go out there and shoot sixty six, but he also might shoot seventy six. Six I don't know. There's the unknown there, so there's a comfort level with knowing what you have with some of those veteran guys. Yes, funny! That's you're talking about covered level because I think the second category players that we have to talk about are the draft picks I think this year more than any other year I think we may see a one hundred percent. Make rate when it comes to. The draft picks because there haven't been off season workouts. We haven't seen him in Ota's right. Now. You're invested in the draft picks because you put money into the draft picks so. It will be hard to dismiss the third round pick that didn't perform world throughout the off season. And you like you know what I'm GonNa. Go with undrafted free agent because I know him better. Because now. We made the selection to pick this guy. We're going to give him every. To make the team and better yet if he doesn't make the team, he's kind of like that prefers status when it comes to the practice squad, more patients more understanding more time to develop. We're going to exhibit patients when it comes to those draft because we're invested in him. Because what we saw on tape in the offseason workouts meaning to combine. We believe they were gonNA. Be Guys that can help our. Our team is some shape or form all right, so my reaction to this is going to kind of bleed these two topics together because I was having this conversation with general manager of the other day, and I want to get your take on it book He brought up a fascinating point. He said he's he believes you're going to see more trades like around the trade deadline at this this season. Season than we've ever seen before. Here's his logic. Hear me out on this. If there is no college season, or there's a limited college season, it's going to make the evaluation process more difficult for this upcoming draft, and it's ever been so if you have an opportunity and you're going to treat a first round pick in two thousand, twenty, one which you might look at that and say man that is. Is A crap shoot? I'm flying blind on that first round pick next year. Look at all. These guys who have emerged in their last year of college that now we don't have a chance to know who those guys are. Some of these guys fall off. We don't just so much unknown, so if I can take a player you know, throw whoever whatever veteran out there you know we're talking about the. The charges say it was keen and Allen right just throwing a name out there, but if if the chargers got off to a slow start, and they decide they WANNA, Trade Canal team might say look I'll I'll trade a first round pick next year. I know it can't Allen Brings I. Know what you know, said. Veteran player brings. I have no idea what that first round pick is going to look. Look like next year because I'm GONNA have less information than I've ever had before, so we could see a flurry of these trades with teams being more willing to part with picks next year than they ever have been in the past. Absolutely nothing it makes sense I think not only those veteran established players like you talk about like Aquinas Allen someone that we've seen play at a high level pawn. Pawn them off for first round picks, but I also think with the potential for the captain to either stay flat or even drop with the reduction. I think you see traits for lower like lower price, veterans guys that are in their first second year where you can still get them at a man, financial costs control so now I can get them cheaper and I can build up my team in A. A cost efficient manner to ensure about a if we don't have enough money to pay some of these high in veterans, we can get some of the lower Gaza. steelhead developmental potential there still may be on their rookie contract or the exclusive rights, contract or restricted free agent where we do get them at cost control at a rate. They're better slots in to the way. The new salary cap could be. Get onto the next players. The undrafted free agents at look this year with the undrafted free agents would be different any of other year. The opportunities will be scarce for them to really prove themselves because without preseason games, they're flashes will come in practice, but the only thing about that coaches will still be hesitant because they say a every. We've seen these these practice day all Americans, but when they. They get to the game. They played comp-, completely different I think now more than ever with the expanded practice squad rosters we will see maybe eight of those sixteen slots reserved for those undrafted free agents that we might feel good about, but we're not all the way confident that they can be contributors right away, and we want to develop them. Guys on our watch on the practice squad. Yeah and you figure you can get both right because a lot of times you make those roster decisions, and it's man. Okay, we have a guy. We took in the fourth round two years ago. He don't love him. He's he's a good player. But Man. We undrafted players better, but the thought processes in a normal year where everybody else in the League might see that undrafted player in preseason games and go okay. Wow, if they don't if they don't put undrafted player on the roster. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA claim him. And then that way. Now you're in a situation where they don't see that player, so you can afford to keep the veteran on the active roster, and then be able to sneak that guy to your practice squad without any worries about him. Getting cleaned by somebody else that allows you to keep both players to extend the evaluation process absolutely, and we talked about this because I think the way. Did you eloquently said you talked about the practice squad issue? More than ever could look like a baseball minor league farm system meaning. We may have three or four players that are ready to go there. AAA players then we've got a double players. We got a single. Single Day in rookie ball, and so as we tear those out especially with sixteen, you could probably put four in each category if you wish and it will give you an opportunity to said developmental plants because I want you to think not only about this year, but I want you to think about next year next year with the uncertainty of the draft developmental game, the teams that are not only able to think about the here and now, but also down the road when it comes to developing those young unheralded players, they have an advantage. I need to be able to have long term plans a long-term vision for how to develop these. Twelve or so guys, they might be undrafted free on the practice squad because I'm a need to be contributors because they're also going to be cheap labor. Let me. I'm going to ask you a question before we finish this year. Do you think and we've seen this a lot and other sports. The salary dump trade right just dumping salary in the NFL. We don't really see a lot of that. The revenues are so high and teams are all competitive, no equal footing with the salary cap, so you don't see a lot of salary dumping, but I wonder if the uncertainty and hopefully they'll get this all figured out with borrowing from future years in the CAP, and and hopefully they can keep it. You know somewhat flat or an old just. A little increase instead of the huge increases that would become the new deals, but if you're a team, says man. We don't really have a shot to win this year. Let's trying give ourselves an advantage for the off season. When some teams might be butting up against the CAP that might not be expanding like we originally thought. Let's dump as much salary as we can and try and get down into a place where we can be. Be Very Nimble and very flexible. We see that other sports really haven't seen that football. Yeah, I, think, there's something that is at play Athena something that has to be a play we talk about these salary cap deals that we see all the time in in basketball. We see teams traded players. They can get their mid level exception back and using on another player well I think with the salary cap and the uncertainty of next year. Year in future years, you really have to have enough flexibility to be able to move regardless of how goes whether it's flat or whether there's a reduction so yeah. I think we'll see traits I think we'll see teams. Trang keep more younger players in the bottom third of their roster to give them the flexibility to build their team and I also think there's going to be. We've seen it already. Teams have not been signing gas. Gas To long-term deals because of the uncertainty with the future years we will see teams I think now more than ever. It will be a team of a handful of stores, and then a lot of cheap lower players and the teams that are the best evaluators when it comes to drafting and developing. They're going to be able to kind of maneuver in these circumstances Yeah, it's there's so many different things factor in here. There's also. You know if you're a team. That's maybe you've got a new coach new quarterback. You know it's kind of a transition year for you and you look at the challenge with the limiting off season and these teams. Might you know early on the season you know? Maybe they get their doors blown off in the first couple games because they just haven't had an opportunity to jail and get together and figure this thing out that you might see them. Punt on the season earlier and say this is a weird year when it pandemic. We haven't had an season new coach new quarterback. Let's start. Let's start trying to get ready for next year. We can shed some contracts. We can try and collect some picks That's why it's GonNa. Be Fascinating, do you? Do you WanNa? Go that route or do you get scared of what we were talking about earlier and say I don't know having a bunch of draft picks might not be a good thing in this upcoming draft, and maybe we start seeing creativity trading for picks outside twenty-one. Maybe start seeing team saying hey, twenty twenty two will be the next normal scouting cycle, so save me. I. Don't want your first round. Pick in twenty one. Give me a first round pick and twenty two. That could be another interesting thing is so many different dynamics in play two different enemies in two dynamics I. Want to touch on I. You mentioned coaches. I think this year more than any of the year. The coaches that one have veteran players. They're going to have an advantage over the new gas, the continuity and system. We talked about champagne early offseason. Say Hey, guys, get away from it whereabouts. Your families will pick up and training camp because a lot of their gas have been there. They know simple systems being able. Able to condense playbook really focusing on short term goals. John Fox when I was with the Carolina Panthers used to talk about. Let's just we can go three and one. Every quarter dedicated you to twelve or four I. Think is very important to have short term goals. I want to ask you and having some of these conversations with scouting buddies. How would know preseason impact the front office view when it comes to evaluation because so much of preseason scouting is not about your own team, but looking at the other thirty one. having someone aside, what do we do now? How does? How Scouts navigate that part of the situation. Yeah, I mean that you're evaluating the back end rosters, and for those that don't know you know. You were assigning different scouts college coutts will help on the pro side during preseason, because there's so many players to evaluate, and you're looking at the back end roster, guys, so we would normally do any of those picked after the fifth round, so rookies that fifth sixth seventh round picks. All the undrafted rookies as well as any roster bubble players, you might look at at the roster and say okay. This guy could get cut second or third year players. But that would usually amount to about. Thirty thirty guys, maybe thirty to forty guys per team. You're not. You're not evaluating the top end players. You'll worry about those guys when they are getting closer to free agency, but those back thirty to forty players. So you do that number times thirty one other teams. That is a huge player pool that you're evaluating well now. You'RE GONNA. Miss out on that evaluation opportunity. You're not gonna see those guys in the preseason. You gotta get a chance to look at them and eyeball. It's going to be a totally different setup with how this with how this works I. Think you're GonNa have guys going back and doubling up and watching even more college tape from from the previous year. It's going to be trying to get your ready lists. You know lots. We've talked about like a guy like Colin Kaepernick being on some ready. You have every position you have a list of you know fifteen guys that if something would happen to one of your players, this would be the next man up that you would bring in for a workout you know. Bring in three of them working sign one. So as you're getting those ready list I think you're going to look at these teams and you're going to say okay well. They kept this guy on the on the practice squad. We didn't really have high grades on him you know. Maybe this guy went to western New Mexico right, and this guy made the practice squad for the dolphins. We had one scout going to western New Mexico. He didn't give the guy draft grade. That was it well the fact that he the Dolphin start enough. Enough of him to put him on the practice squad. I can't go watch him in preseason games. What I can do is I can sign his western new. Mexico taped three or four other guys in our department and say maybe that guy had a bad cup of coffee the day he went in there, and maybe this kid has some redeeming qualities so that that type of assignments those types of assignments I think is what you're going to see in personnel departments. It's going to be weird. Weird, but I think it is interesting. Because Dj some teams don't involve their pro scouts and college scouting process I think it would be interesting when we talk about the bottom of the roster. Guys now that we are getting word that there may not be a preseason being able to say I know you typically don't live in that world, but here's what I want you to do. Let's take three games from their kid from western New Mexico and look at him and give me an email based on that and we have to make. We may have to make our practice squads decisions off of their. Their college tape, which is completely different, but not the college got it looked at them, but maybe the pro A. can you look in project and see what traits you like about him? Look at his workout. Look at the combine stuff. If he was at the combine. Let's see where this out in terms of the percentiles. Where does he fit? What does he project as a pro? Let me give you another idea here. This is a like we'll give you. A team Might Carolina Panthers. Who We've all said probably rebuild mode right, Matt rule and then quarterback our new head coach. You bring over. New. Coordinator got a new quarterback there and teddy bridgewater limiting off season. All that we've talked about you know it's going to be tough for that team to win in this coming season. If practice squads are expanded, it could be a big number right We already know it is expanded because the new CBA expanded even more. I would be tempted and the Carolina Panthers Front Office to say okay. We have our. What is it a fifty four man roster now I think it went up one or fifty five. Whatever it is, so I would say we're going to allocate. Four spots a week, so maybe every two weeks every three weeks every two or three weeks. We're going to have four rotating spot, so you look around those practice squads around the league find the four interesting players we're going to bring. We're going to sign him to are active roster. We're going to get a free look at him for a little bit. See who like maybe we keep one. Maybe we keep none but three weeks later. We're going to cycle cycle. Keep one of those guys. Now we cycle out three new ones and we're going. Going to get a chance to look at these guys get free looks on these players that are on practice squads around the NFL and if you come out of the season, and you end up with five or six new roster, guys that you've plucked off practice squads because you could really turn your roster and get free. Looks at these players provided. You're not worried about the depth and the back of your roster, because you're not GonNa win anything this year so I'm glad that you brought that up and I'm glad that you brought. In the Carolina Panthers, because I believe guys who are just recently removed from the college world have an advantage Dj you remember last year college football put in the rich or rule the richer rule where you can play a player for four games, and they still could retain debt extra year. Basically, what you're outlining is using the richer rule in the pro game meaning. Go get an active practice squad guy put him on the roster. Put Him on the field for a few weeks. You can evaluate them, and then you can decide whether to kick or punt on him in early on when Pete Carroll went to Seattle seahawks. What does he? Do, they churn the bottom part of their rostrum. Would any other team you talk about the week after week? Numerous transactions gas coming in guys point out I. think that is a smart way for Matt Rule and some of these other teams that are trying to jumpstart a rebuild program to use that approach. Yeah I, think there's just a lot of ways you can be creative. With what's going on? Are there any other aspects? We're not seeing on this thing? No I think that's IT I. Think we've really hit on it. When it came to the preseason games, we talked about divest. Draft picks two undrafted to coaches and scouts. Thing that has impacted because we're talking about the preseason, but now the word has come out in the college game. Teams are already putting on the potential. A fall season two Patriot League Ivy League junior colleges have all said that they're going to play spring football. Dj For us. As Scouts. What does that mean now? Like what? What is your approach? What have you heard? What do you think about spring football while getting ready for draft that also tell place in the spring. Yeah I think you're you're looking at two scenarios, right? Let's do the scenario where we get power five football which I think, there's still hope out there that we could get power five football, the big big five conferences. They go off in the fall. Maybe it's conference only is what it looks like. You know initially right now. then. I think we're going to get some brand of spring football. The Patriot League. Which is Division One AA, I I don't do the FBI FCS. Thing just confuses me so you've got the Patriot league the Ivy League it sounds like I think we're gonNA. End Up seeing all those division. One Aa as and I think we're GONNA. See A lot of the group I believe personally not for anything else out there. Concrete report I believe the. The group of five. I don't see the group of five in the fall, so there's some good programs you think about the group of five talking about Boise State talking about Houston Mile Maters the top twenty five team. I mean these I. Think it's going to be difficult for those teams to go because the let me give you the back story the reasoning. Their revenue. They don't have big TV deals, so their revenue comes from the gate, so if you can't have fans in the stands, your revenue takes a major hit, so you're not able to generate the revenue. It just makes more sense for them to punt to the spring, and the hope that you could get fans in the stands. Then you can get your revenue backup and I think actually I think you would actually do pretty good rating. Wise I know for me if I had a chance to watch Houston. Play Louisiana Tech in the spring. I'll watch it. I'll definitely why I'd be a heck of a lot more interested in that than watching the AF xfl or the other Spring Football Leagues. We've had, but that's what I think's going to happen, so we're GONNA. have some form spring football. Scouting wise. You will see. I would say you know especially if it's the group of five and the in it's the non power five. You would have a pool of what do you think buck I would say? Twenty, maybe twenty thirty players that would opt out from that level because they're already feel secure. They're going to be top one hundred picks so they wouldn't play. We'd be evaluating them for the draft. The rest of those guys we would be evaluating the underclassmen for next year, but the seniors you'd be evaluating for them. Being undrafted free agents, you know type type of a situation that would be my guess. How that would all work? Yeah, Dj I think this actually could be a good thing for football. In general right, it could be a good thing in general down down alive, because we've tried to feel the springtime void with football on the pro level and unsuccessfully life, for whatever reason it just hasn't worked the one thing that we know colleges are very past like Dj. If you can close your eyes and just think about how many people pay attention to spring, Football Games when they. They play them on ESPN when they play them on ESPN you. They plan on Fox and all those other things. There's a rabid interest for football. Some of those schools, particularly the small ones group of five schools that they're big paydays come from playing power five conferences, whatever they may find a better financial model by going into spring from scouting standpoint I don't think it will impact us as much because you're talking about a smaller pool. The guys that we're talking about typically coming from those. Schools encompasses are typically your later round. Draft picks your undrafted free agents, those guys and so I think there's enough time to get information on those guys and I think our assessments on. Those guys would probably be true to the process, because it's closer to the draft for the power five guys. It wouldn't allow us to really dig into the power five conferences if they happen to play in the fall to really hone in to see. See those games to have a solid ramp up to the combine and the draft, and you have to be working concurrently on both sides with your scouting staff, but I think it'd be something that could work. I think we could pull it off. I think there are enough people in front offices to be able to get. Yeah I mean you tell me if you got a chance to watch these spring leagues with the AF XFL? To me, I think if you had group of five football in the spring. I think it would destroy those those games and ratings. I don't even think it'd be close. You'd be watching Games and full stadiums at a lot of these places. Now it'd be big time intrigued with it, and it's good football. There's good football programs there, and you almost have to national championships right. You have to kind of the power, five national champion and the. National Champion. Great because I think if you do that, I mean I don't want to give away all our secrets, because somebody will take this this, just imagine with the group of five right, so you talked about the power five and they're doing whatever they do. College Football playoff. We ever seen a group of five team. Crack the playoff this point, so imagine let the power five. Do they deal with their national champion, but then with the group of? What I use the same model that the smaller schools us we have a group of five, and then you have a legitimate playoff where there's eighteen sixteen teams and let them continue to wrap it up. Just like Division One AA, division, two division three I think there would be a level of interest and excitement, interest and excitement that would lead to revenues they generate that had generated before. Yeah I mean we could go for European soccer model, and just way off the reservation to and say hey, you win. You Win the Group of five championship. You're in the power of the next year. How about? Every go and Playing in the fall in if you're one of those bottom bottom teams in the power, five C C in the spring. It'll never happen. It makes too much sense. It makes too much sense. It will never happen. But I do think what we are going to see. Happen as we are going to see some form of spring football, you know whatever that looks like in. I'm excited for it, and maybe it's a one and done. Maybe it's one year only because of what's going on in the world, but. I? Don't think it's the end of the World I. Though I tweeted this out the other day. I want to get your thoughts on it I don't understand why the league I guess I. Understand why they did. It bugs me that they eliminated the supplemental draft this year. and. The reason that I that you hear is all. They were worried about guys like trevor. Lawrence and some of these other guys trying to. Get into the supplemental. My thing is not about them. My thing is like right now. We know the Ivy League in the Patriot League are not gonNA play football this year. So if you look historically and you know the guys, you'll think of them off the top of your head, but the rules right guys get guys get kicked out of school. Guys have. Have Multiple failed. Drug tests get in trouble. They get kicked of two different schools and those guys into being eligible to start their professional career where they begin getting paid and developing as a professional. Now you have let's say you've got in. This is just making this up. You've gotTA draftable offense. If you've got a mid round, draftable offensive, Lineman at Delaware. Right and everybody in the scouts know who he is now they cancel football. He's not given the option to do. What the guy who got kicked out of school was was was given. He did nothing wrong. I mean he just had his football season. The rug pulled out from under him and now instead of being able to go into supplemental draft. We haven't started training camp yet. There's plenty of time to do that. He could get on with the team. Have a chance to train in a real facility with with proper technique and everything else and get in his professional career started. Make a little money. To wait Texas could do for the whole. He's got nothing to do all the way up until the draft and. And the people said Oh. If you do that, it would overwhelm the system when we know the scouts if you ask the teams. Who are the three to five? NFL prospects in the Patriot league who are the three to five NFL prospects in the Ivy League they already know who these guys are. You're talking about a handful of players, but those guys in my opinion got Kinda hose like they should've been given an opportunity to go into the supplemental draft. That's how I feel about it. You know I think to supplement address should've been wide open given the. The uncertainty of what is going on the uncertainty of the season, the uncertainty of the spring like we don't know for sure if the spring is going to be able to play out, because no one knows how the pandemic is going to turn out, there should be given the opportunity to move on to the next level. I think I would have been fascinated if they did run the supplemental draft. As usual. I would love to see what would happen with a trevor. Lawrence and adjusting feels if thrown their name into the hat, because with the supplemental being able to give a first round pick next year, I just would been intrigued by a WHO would who give up their first round? Pick right away this year. Knowing that I could get Trevor Lawrence next year. Year, and beyond I think it'd be, but the challenge with that is those guys technically would have had to file a grievance because they wouldn't have been eligible I know, but like these Ivy League these seniors to be the guys that are going to be seniors, and you could even put that in case of guys like Travis at Tan devante Smith and Was a lot of those guys. Those guys were eligible for last year's draft decided to go back to school now. I don't think this is what they anticipated was going to happen with them. Coming back to school, so the scenario situation has changed I, just feel like those guys should have been given the opportunity you know and I I do think that there was probably a fear that well if those guys get in. then. You're going to start having guys trying to do what Mike Williams did back in the day. And petition the NFL to get in even though they technically aren't eligible. Yeah, I think the thing that is interesting. We've had this conversation We're hopeful that power five goes into for, but what if our five goes in the spring with everybody else? How does that change with some of the Marquee? Players that are out there Do we see these guys play? Play a couple of games and then shut it down. We see these guys play full seasons. Duty Scott. Stay with the teams were pursuing a national title is different, because it's a tighter run up to the draft and so injuries, and all those other things would have a bigger impact if they occur in the spring as opposed it when they happen in the fall. I think the top tier programs would have a minimum of four to five guys. That would not play. That's my. That's just my opinion. I think you'd see that. I think agents would get to him. Agents would tell them look. You're a first round. Pick your your top fifty. Pick your top one hundred pick. If you're in one of those categories, right, they're going to say okay. Let's look at the advantages of you coming back you're you're a first round pick? Maybe you move up into the top ten, you know. Maybe you play really well involved yourself up in the top ten. Now it's the disadvantages you get sick. You get hurt. You don't play as well I mean the team around us not as good like there's just more things you can stack up in the reasons not to play the reasons to play for those guys that are in that top tier, and you know how it is, but there's if you pulled college football players right now the you. If you said how many of you believe your a top fifty, pick right right now going you'd have one hundred fifty hands would go up. Because you guys have been told their top fifty picks by everybody around him. Agents coach everybody, so you're gonNA. Have a lot of those guys thinking well. I'm already a top fifty. Pick I'M NOT GONNA play in the spring. Why would I do that? I'm GONNA get hurt. I'm GONNA get sick. I'm not gonNA play as well. There's too many negative outcomes yet as I mean. There's a lot of risk in going to bring you. Talk about like be getting sick. The injury risk determining play the the poor performance. For. Those guys negative. I think the other thing. It might be harder for gas. You have a a Joe borough like a rise up the charts. Just because everything is so close what we got a chance to do last year, we got a chance to really sit in Digest Joe. Boroughs ascension up the board. We got a chance to really watch him game after game throughout the fall, make a case to be the number one overall pick, but here's my question. Here's my question on that book. Because this is my question if Joe Borough, who we said coming to the season was a third round pick. If LSU is six, and and he's tearing it up the first time they have you know a big opponent whoever that might be right. Say you know what I mean I have to go back and look at her schedule, but say it's you know. It was Alabama was later in the year Georgia was later, but the first. You know Texas A and M.. He destroys Texas. AM The six game of the season. You know everybody's GonNa, get in his ear like dude. You're a top five pick. You just put six unbelievable games out there. Your torch, Texas A and M.. Shut it down, and I'm telling you. That's going to be the message that sent to a lot of those players. So you're GonNa have some guys that are not gonNa play to begin with. You're GONNA have other. Other guys get off to a hot start. It'd be like all right I put enough out there. That's a little taste. I'm healthy. I'm out in a way, not s ended. Nick boasted digits, but when nick both got her like he was done for the played three games this year, and he was like a my take speech. If you have to make the decision, I think you will see some guys do that and any nick, any minor deemed or injury. I think as. I think today's of trying to play through NBA hero or exhibit courage bravery I don't think that happens to spring with everything being so close to the draft. Yeah and then I. You know I don't even thought about this. There's so many different angles this thing. What would you do if you have spring football and you get your recruits that come in graduate early? Like. US. Throw those guys right out of high school throwing right on the field. That would be That'd be eligible to do that correct yeah I. Think you could use it. use the rich or rule to your advantage. Give them their four games I. Think which as you can put them on the film if they can handle it. And do it. But what if you're in a state? What if you're in a state like? We're in California and we're hopeful, but not necessarily optimistic. We're going to high school football here in the fall. But what if you're in a state? What if you're in North Dakota? And the virus hasn't been bad there, and you play your twelve game high school season in the fall. You Finish player championship game in early December. You enroll at the school in January and you could be playing a college football game in February like that. I, don't I don't know if that's necessarily in the best interest of the student athlete now I. Don't I definitely don't think that's in the best interest, but I think what you have to do. Is You ever coach you have to evaluate? How good is player coming in I? Think what's interesting north. Carolina has a kid Chameleon Antonio Grimes. Big, Time Warner. he signed for next year's class, but he's decided to reclassify so we can go in this year and so it is very similar I think you'll see some guys that do that so when we talk about in California. potentially not having high school ball, and then you have a handful of guys that all ready like to go in early enroll so does that mean? They just bypass their senior season and go to college. It's interesting. I mean a unique set of circumstances. Everyone has to be number on adaptable, but this year will be unlike any other year that we've ever seen. Yeah, it's GonNa be wild wildland. Is there anything else you want to add before we jump out of here book. No, that was that was a discussion. I. I think it's interesting I think the pandemic is making everybody. Look at football differently and I. Think what I would like to happen soon because DJ training camp is two weeks away and we don't have a decision I. Just Kinda WanNa know, are we going to have a season? What is trying to look like? How do we give ready for it? Howard teams going to get rid of because the man I'm anxious to body. Clock is telling me at a time I just wanted to. Is it legitimately going to be go top? Yep. Well, we'll wait maybe the next time we get together here in a couple of days. We'll have an answer hopefully soon. We'll find out. But that's all. That's all I got today. That was fun. It's just fun looking at all the different possibilities in how one decision's GonNa Affect so many different people I thought we tackled that today. Yeah, no, absolutely I think this is a unique set of circumstances. I think coaches players scouts. Everybody has to be Nimble to have to be able to move in kind of navigate. You gotta be able to adapt and overcome, and this will be unique circumstances that you have to overcome, but I think is one that everyone can be able to do it. You just have to have a plant. No doubt all right well. That's going to do it for us today. Thank you guys so much for checking us out I. WE'LL BE BACK here in a couple of days with move the sticks. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm on your miles next time.

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Ivy League Cancels Season. Stanford Cuts Programs. Steelers Enforce Mask Policy

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Ivy League Cancels Season. Stanford Cuts Programs. Steelers Enforce Mask Policy

"Welcome into one and done radio wherever you are. However, you are listening whether it's on I. tuned sound crowd spotify Potter Matic Iheart Radio. Tune in Stitcher Pandora Popcorn pod bean. The else is out there basically a one done radio a part of your day. last episode, Ivy League, probably the biggest news that happened. Recently. Ivy League cames out comes out in cancels fall sports for the upcoming fall. What that could mean going forward. Then Stanford cuts. Eleven varsity. Programs. And what that could mean for the university and for big time schools. And the steelers if they do host fans will made them wear masks talk about the impact that. All that on the show, let's go. So. The Ivy League was kind of big come out and they were saying they're proven. She can say what they were going to do for the upcoming season. I think everyone around like sports in college athletics. For Division was really waiting to hear what they do. Because The Ivy League is obviously you know Harvard Yale Dartmouth in other schools. and. They came out and said that they are not to be playing sports this fall including football. Like. Fall, sports are canceled. said, it's thrilling the right decision for the Ivy League. But it's difficult. So. Ivy League. Division One being. Very, a Prophet I mean probably a very profitable. League as far as university. But it's not the. Sports in general like football a bar, not the top moneymaker for the Ivy. League. It's actually basketball basketball's where. The money really falls into place for them. going. Back. To. Obviously the reason that this is happening because the coronavirus pandemic, they're saying that this just. This going too much money involved that to that one. WE'RE GONNA lose too much money for testing in. Players at all this stuff. So let's come reason why they decided to do that. And then there's talks that they they were saying, well, we could try and play my football in the spring. But if you think about trying to move other sports as well in the spring, it's just not realistic. Take. Soccer, the cross happened same time they have same field sketches be problem. Obviously football has their own. Problems was well when it comes to like. How they had to schedule everything around the season. It would just be mayhem if they try move all the fall sports to the spring. So this begs the question that I think it's on everyone's minds, and this is a big decision that could do what lead to a effect snowball effect of other schools and other and maybe. Division One lease. Saying we're not playing. College football is obviously. For a lot of these schools is a big moneymaker. Michigan Alabama, Clemson just schools under naming Ohio state did you like the big money making programs for the school? And the schools, but the schools can survive a year without playing these football. Playing. Football in general. And this the thing says. Quote was a if it costs too much to maintain a healthy environment at our institutions, our communities than we don't play sports or don't return students to campus, and it was kind of weird about the situation was that the students can actually go in practice on campus. Students will be allowed to practice on campus in a modified form I'm sorry like if I'm wanting to play my sport. I'm GONNA practice late. I'm going to be playing not going to practice if my seasons cancel. That's just me I I mean think about it as an ex student athlete like. As a twenty, two to eighteen to twenty, two year old whatever you are at that time. You being told years now playing you're you're not playing a season, you can go practice. I mean yeah. You can go and get better. For the next year. But you're in practice for what? I don't even know how many weeks maybe. Ten twelve weeks whatever might be you know practice for that? May weeks even plane in an opponent? And then do nothing until the next year. Till springtime where you actually have spring football, it's it's a big effect and that's why I don't I don't think. So the student athletes are going to go and take advantage of practice. They practice boring I'm sorry. The practice is not fun who is this What how it comes out and says who practice practice practice like? Listen. A true competitive athletes. They look like we all love Game Day. Practice, gets you right for game 'cause you love the feel of in the energy and the adrenaline of going against somebody else improving that you are than them. And getting a win. That's why we practice. Not Trying to pour Iverson but with Ivy League trying to say oh you guys can practice. That doesn't sit right with me. But could this lead to? Division One football and other big time school saying no fall sports. May Be. Scary when you think about it because everyone wants I think the biggest out Lavas is football. For College Sports. But. When you take that, when you have an Ivy Lee that's an influence in the Patriot league has already been influenced. How many more leagues will fall under their influence? A could be quite a bit. And There is also, I, mean just a small note. But it's another. League division. Three division three. The Sentinel Conference suspended fall sports as well. And I noticed division three I. Know People will say, well, it's Division One. So it's not big moneymakers but still. Visit Three is still a league is taken this chrome virus pandemic seriously as it should. Could this be effect where more teams follow suit? Ivy League obviously big time names there. But could be a situation where more leagues follow. We will. See. So Stanford big news s Stanford to. Mind, you Stanford, is one of the most profitable universities in the country, the top three. And they have come out and said that they have cut eleven varsity sports mind you eleven. CLEVELAND, like go a year without these sports. Plannings present a cut them and just say it's it. In case, you wanted to sports include men's and women's fencing field hockey, lightweight rowing men's rowing coed, and women's sailing squash synchronized swimming men's volleyball and wrestling. That's actually pretty big I. Mean when you're planning sports I get if you're trying to do the I play with a pandemic going not. I I don't know how you can do wrestling without and we'll get sick well actually. No, you just test them. I mean just like how they do the. UFC. But financially, they can't support all these schools. Especially, if a state football season doesn't happen. Mistake effort has this is probably another scary situation just like talked about earlier with the Ivy League. With Stanford. Be won the top profitable university in the country. Country not just the state. Not just the conference? The country. And they are having to make cuts mean other universities have done that as well. Accurate has done that you cons done. They had made cuts. But those two schools do not compare financially to Stanford. DEFA direct came out and said this has been a heartbreaking day all especially those student athletes and coaches involve we came to the decision exhausting all other viable alternatives. A recently became painfully clear. We would not remain financially stable and support thirty six Barsky sport at a national competitive level, which is what we desire. So when you have a school like, Stanford Command saying we can't afford to have all these sports. What does that mean for other universities? It means this. This is probably GonNa happen more and more just. Being just saying that, and I want to say that it's scary to say that. But we have these athletes are going to these schools because of their sports. Their Co Ed sailing. and wrestling and volleyball, whatever it is when you haven't gone to school scholarships for that and you take that away from them, what are they supposed to do? Are they going to be fully? Their scholarships going to remain intact. I hope so. Say out here the coaches will contract will be honored, and actually I am now reading that the scholarships will still be honored. So that is great to hear at least they will honor the scholarships but. Then and Athens WANNA. Go play elsewhere. They. Have the right to do so but where else would it be able to play if this to happen across the country? Stanford. Is A is a very big school to not be able to support all these varsity sports. But I will say this if I'm assuming athlete. I can't play my sport, but my school's going to be covered by scholarship to. Stay, I mean. When I was trying to play college football. I was trying to I was trying out for Division One. Wasn't a full division, one athlete whatever but I was trying out for Division One. Am My university to actually make an go to school there. When that was kind of thing I could when I was trying to go school from a university where I could commute stay on campus. It was tough me financially. So I was trying to get a scholarship to go and play so and the coach said Yeah, and you can come try out and some video were number how it he's coming to school. Try Out. You'll be on the team go to school with try out don't make the team I'm screwed now you gotta go back home go back to where I can commute. Ways. So At least there are these these scholarships for these athletes, but they just decided that they cannot hold all these sports. Think about the effect on other universities that are not as profitable. Again accurate. A new kinds are made those decisions in other schools will follow suit. When they look at finances may see cases continue to spike cases continue to rise in the US akin to see this. They wonder how can we handle this financially? It's Tricky. Because you have to look at money had to look at the bottom line you have to look at how human survive. Especially, if we don't even have a football season football, our money football is money in this country like I'm sorry I don't think people are lining up out the door to go and watch fencing. Fence does seem kind of cool but I don't think people are going out in line in door for fencing or for sailing or squash or synchronized swimming like I'm just being honest with you play football is. Big. Time sports like football basketball, whatever it might be. Are What makes the school money Now, will this had the effect again on other schools I think yes. The sad cases I think yes you will see more universities. There are not even as profitable as Stanford continue to make cuts to their. Programs. steelers came out and. This is actually what I will say this. The steelers have come out and said that they are going to have if they do allow fans. If, they can host fans, they will make them wear mask. and. I just say I want to have the whole master me quick You know I went to I go to COSCO A lot. And when everything started to happen, they obviously made everybody wear a mask and then continue to wear masks. That is fully a hundred percent. Okay. My books. If a store is saying you cannot come in here without a mask on. So be it because that they are doing it for themselves and for you and for everyone. So if you want to wear UNDIS-, I'm saying this right now and I, know this may affect some people and I really don't care if you don't WanNa Wear Matt if they make you wear masking you don't want to then don't go to the store. Then you do that. Okay. But. If a store wants to wear a mask, just wear one, they may even provide you a mass just do it. What's the problem? is where the mask okay and if you WANNA go watch your steelers play. If they can. Allow you to. Go Watch him then wear a mask. Okay. Do It's not like. It's super uncomfortable. Yeah. Does it get a low win at a blue mask whatever does it gets a little rubbing around your ears yeah. It can be a little annoying but where it from by something else despite them, that's comfortable. There's a lot of alternatives out the mask the number one thing to buy right now is weird. And back, then it might be let's go toilet paper. Can Find It. But I found it. So I'm getting. So. Here's one. Okay. This I've talked about to four when it comes to. Having. Less capacity in the stadium. So steelers have said they would. Always sell fifty percent of individual tickets. Okay. WHO's means so like they're trying to keep their socio, they're trying to say, okay, every other seat will have will have make sure it's empty. So one fan here next seat empty one and so on. So forth. About me try to do it twenty, twenty, five percent capacity for universities and. NFL Stadiums and whatever it is. So whatever that entails as far as bringing people into the same if you are trying to do that. Now. Do I do I, think that actually GonNa make them wear masks. Yes. I think if you're going to go to an event if you're going to go somewhere, you should wear masks. Okay. When I wear a mask. I worked for not only for the protection of myself against others but I currently still work in my job and unfortunately I xe. Talking to people every day Wear a mask every single time I talked to somebody. Because it's not only protection from. Me against them them against me. Think about that. It's not just for one party. It's for multiple parties to wear masks. So. With the steelers come out and say we are making you wear a mask if you really want to see your steelers that bad you do it. And Trust me they will have security out there watching everybody sure everyone has a mascot. Few takers off. You probably. Going to be in trouble. So. But this is something that I think. Being steelers. Okay. Man You steelers has probably one of the largest fan bases in the country when it comes to the NFL because whenever you go to a stadium like I remember the game last year where the chargers were at home. And the steelers were on the road and the steelers were the first king home team. K., based on their fans like. The charges a silent count on. This is your. Stadium. Right, so I'm saying is like. steelers are enforcing him for their fan based other teams will follow because steelers were largest fan base is in the NFL probably the largest. Like. Everywhere you go. You see the terrible towel as a boy they're terrible. And so they they've also come out said that season ticket holders could apply for full refunds for the season. And, they'll still be able to maintain their ability to renew for the next season. So they're honoring that and. The NFL will allow fans in the stadiums. This is one of the ways that I see it happening. At fifty percent capacity in everyone wearing masks now granted, they may even have it where at the front door those mask. The first ten thousand people get a free. Customized mask or whatever they give those giveaways for ten thousand people. They are five thousand masks whatever like does little. However, they want to do it. It's whatever how do. They may do that, but they're going to make sure you walk in with a mask. If you don't have a mask on, you won't go ahead. If you try to go to Cosco you without a mask, you won't go in I could get a fresh market without a mask you can't get in. I respect, everybody. There has to bet enforces you have to wear a mask. Because I think that right now the best decision to try and move forward and try and have some sense of normalcy in this country. VALID EUVERTE is episode of one radio facial tune to the show. 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21. Bryan Bailey - Utah Jazz Assistant Coach

Big Fellas Basketball

19:25 min | Last week

21. Bryan Bailey - Utah Jazz Assistant Coach

"Welcome to the big FELLAS podcast where we chop it up about all things past present and future about the game of. Basketball. We're facts stats and context reign. Supreme. Blasphemous sometimes, it gets crazy but we always keep it real always. Get. Ready to learn from players, coaches in fans from all levels of the game and see the court and a brand new way. And now fresh off the sidelines. Here's your host John Hart. Oh Phyllis. Fell and welcome to the big FELLAS basketball podcast I'm your host Jay h coming to from New York City the Mecca of basketball today I'm Brian Bailey assistant coach of player development for the Utah Jazz Brian. I had a great conversation playing career overseas his work for the Utah Jazz and what it was like coaching MBA bubble we've got a golden and stuff you today Fellas Episode Number Twenty, one Brian Bailey Utah Jazz assistant coach. Brian. John that'd be Good, thank you so much for coming on and we're looking forward to it. Problem reached out. that. It's awesome. Big things about you with you. So looking forward to it. Awesome. So just real quick. Can you kind of walk us through how you first got into the game in the journey that took you on? August account was introduced to the game a young age. So I was I'm originally from new. York. Grew up in the Bronx. So younger, my brother used to just go. To parts of my dad like Sunday mornings go to the park watching play basketball. And Do stuff like that. So that's how I got introduced to the game and then on. Graduates note became a fan fell in love the game so. Just practice notice me my brother backyard and stuff like that. So that's kind of how it all started. Awesome. So I'm the Assistant Freshman Coach at Xavier and we actually I saw the outside high school by Hempstead. So when did you go to south side? So I moved to was Brown Lebron's the bronx they're moved to Long Island. When I was nine. So I started force raiding long island in Dan. So yeah. Went to the rest of my schooling in Long Island. So I did all my high school years. To school years alarm went to southside high school. But I mean, we played senior year they're really good team and It's obviously it must have been a lot of fun and you you obviously excess coming out of long, island and the high school system there but you only get one offers out of high school but you took the risk went to Bucknell and we able to walk on and then had a really successful time. They're gonNA tell story. Yes Oh, I mean like coming out of high school. I didn't get recruited by any colleges. So I didn't get recruited deep one two or three, which is no kind of weird because no, I was actually pretty successful in high in high school I was all around first. Team. Player in Long Island I didn't get any truth in it looks. Are Scholarships. So accounta- when I was looking at schools, I applied to a few schools Bucknell Ozzy's woman applied to. Boston you. And kind of went schools in China is kind of sell myself to try to go to the school Bucknell obviously gave me the most money so reportable so I ended up going there Kinda just walked into the. Office crusade Canadian Myself Brian Bailey. Become into the school. Interesting to play basketball and We have a JV program can come. And so once I got to the school. Which is lucky that one of the incoming freshmen decided to transfer. and. So they had on the team and I actually knew or met the other freshman his name was Pete Santos he was the only recruit that came in that year. So I kind of knew him just from a freshman orientation and we kinda just kind of became friends and so one day they were having just a Jim open runs and he picked up on this team and we're playing against you guys on the team end up doing well, some of the coaches Kinda saw heard about me and you know that's of how I got on the team. So my freshman year really didn't play that much probably like maybe ten games limited minutes. And you know my my sophomore year end up starting. At my gene senior was a first team, all Patriot league. Selections. kind of that's how the process GonNa win. Go from someone as from a walk onto starting your sophomore year. Now you're the your first team, all Patriot League the been really happy he must have been. PRETTY ECSTATIC. Now would definitely happy but I mean I was definitely happy myself just. Because flannery and his staff just give me the opportunity not to play so. Without Demo within the position. Of. Course. So then Once you graduate from college obviously, you're just had success at the collegiate level. You went overseas you played on a lot of interesting cool teams whether to Germany. Cyprus can tell about that and without for you. Coming out a Bucknell I really didn't know if I wanted to play professional basketball actually looking at you know working in. Manhattan. Doing computer networking because I had done internship the past for summers down the city doing computer networking. So coming out college wasn't really sure cousin just get a regular job in the city or basketball. So actually my college coach coach Flannery. Told me about a player Jr, holding. So shareholding graduated the year right before I came the buck now. He was overseas he was playing and he was very successful overseas every year he play over there he won a championship. So coach like, yeah you should know think about going to play professional basketball sees in. So that's when I took it up known I was like This is something that probably do and I went to some pro exposure camps. In some teams. That went overseas in A. Few teams ended up signing. A First Team Roseanne? Montenegro. The Knack was in Germany. So that's Kinda process went can happen real quick it was wasn't like. I knew out throughout my whole college career that was gonNA play professional basketball was this I I was came down to the last year. It was like a look into this opportunity to make money playing basketball, and that's when I decided to do. Of course, it's obviously a beautiful things that just travel the world playing basketball paid for it too. So not missile grant. Yeah I'm so so after after all those playing, what made you transition into coaching? So to be honest, I played thirteen years overseas and then my last year plane was two thousand fifteen as when I stopped when I came back and when I stopped adding, go right into coaching. So I was doing basketball player development and strengthen conditioner blend brothers. So we reform a company called Diamond Lettuce we were outside of Philly. Basically, what we did was we did player development for. Overseas European players, professional players high school kids a you teams. just guys working the basketball skills in their strengthening conditioning. So I did that for about a year and a half. And then I got into coaching just kind of randomly. So the head Scout David. Lewin had random text me he was the scout the scout for the. Celtics. You know he finally number retired as interested in what's getting coaching? And we have a D. League team, the main right clause in Maine. So, texting, showing interested. So I went up there is if you'd for their job that Kinda know spent three days of Brad Stevens. Staff. Up, in Boston. Interview for the daily job like the final guy but getting the job that year. So that Kinda just kinda sparked my interest to get into coaching. So. After I didn't get the job and went back to the player development stuff my brother. And then following a summer of followed up again. So I just started making contacts. With people that I knew So one guy contacted Fleming was my coach in Germany for three years I think at the time he was assisted with nuggets. And just mason context contacted got into contact with Mike Miller. Who was the interim head coach for the New York? Knicks in at the time, he was the daily Kit head coach for the. Westchester Knicks Contact Mike, and she started talking for a while. Few weeks get to know each other and ended up interviewing with the Westchester Knicks Alan Houston with, GM. And that was Kinda. My First Job are getting into coaching. So that's kind of how the process when. I don't think it was everything. You know Sorta like playing professional basketball I? Didn't really know have WANNA. Get into coaching. There wasn't kind of what I planned to do after retired but once gone to love it. Super Interesting about how you know you really weren't sure you're playing overseas. You're having a great time you end up retiring and then you go to the training space and can you tell us a little bit about flooding in what you guys do? What the future looks like you guys? So I got out of time. So once I got into coaching. Stopped with diamond flooded So basically what we're doing You know it was the player development. So we had professional players mostly overseas overseas. European players have come home for the summer and these guys needed some somewhere to work out. Once work on the skills, just get ready for the next season repair they wanted to get stronger So we put them through training program for the summer, and after that, we had obviously high school kids and we have a team that we work or gathered in practice with I was just trying to get these kids better at their basketball skills on. So that was the whole premise behind the company. So once I got into coaching, I had to remove myself that coaching fulltime. We don't have a lot of time for other other activities. Of course then. When you end up then going to with coach Fleming and the Salt Lake City Stars. What was? What was that like going from the Knicks to the? Next to the star go swimming. So coflin was my coach in Germany. So I didn't work for him. he was coaching with the nuggets. So He kinda descended introduced introduced me to some people I was working with Mike Miller and then Mike Miller was only at Westchester next year. And then after my year with Westchester ended up moving to Salt Lake City Star. So they head coach at the Salt Lake City Stars at the time was Moaning Schiller. New Martin. Because, he was my assistant for two years when I played in Germany. So he brought me with him when he got the job with the Salt Lake. City Stars. So that made me Li- moved from. New York. To Salt Lake City than I was with their team with the stars two years. And was star, there was two years. Then this is my first year with Jazz. a whole going from the stars for the jazz must been great fierce. Now, you're in a player development role there as opposed to assistant coaching will what's the difference in Canada's roles, and also when it's like being with the general or jazz philosophies like we don't really. Differentiate between like assistant coach every every coach on our. Staff has assistant coach titles. So titled the Assistant Coach Last. Player development. So basically you know we don't differentiate between player development and coaching in no as an assistant coach like. As a player development coach. You're basically coaching as well. sobbing just main responsibilities is just development of our roster roster. Guys get these guys better on into the rest of the guys just getting better prepared to play in the NBA game. So that's The. Biggest thing our responsibility I have now also had some scouting duties where I work with other assistant coaches on scouting. So say we scouting we're GONNA play the Washington Wizards or Santana's verse just helping with the scout that includes. Personnel just plays offense despite defensively the wizards spurs to do. That soup. Arnstein, it's great. Everyone is able to kind of help in those rows and kind of so now as. As an assistant coaching role what's relationship with guys like Donovan Mitchell, bear who are really upcoming stars slash superstars in this league and making monumental leaps from from they want with Tommy, great. I mean, those guys are no class that guy's Donovan Rudy. Daily, by example, guys that comes the German Day working hard the getting better So just kind of see their work ethic you know even though you kinda look from the outside in these guys are really good players but just kinda see up close and personal on there in the gym everyday putting the word trying to get to where they're going to be he no, and the results speak for themselves when they get out in the court. Of course at that, that's awesome and kind of are you advocacy a price with them travel team everywhere or yeah. So I, travel. So I was down In Orlando with the team eight weeks of down the bubble. So going. Awesome. So what was it kind of? Like? The I'm much eleventh that day when the NBA Kinda shutdown being at that game and I mean obviously I mean I was watching twitter here in new. York. You see all the pictures on spraying down the seats and the. Tension of all, my gal happen to the season was the kind of first hand. Kind of a surreal experience you just Kinda. When they pull this off the cord and we went back to the locker room. So we were. The Times either seven or seven thirty in we were in that locker room. So about one, thirty, two in the morning you know they wouldn't let us go and. Now, we all had to get tested for Kobe before. We would leave and that was just Because of Oklahoma City Department of Health and stuff like that. So Little little strange it's being stuck there and not figuring out what the next move is going to be. Clear we'RE GONNA go. Can we fly back now? We allowed to get on the charter. Can We? Can we find hotel staying at USC. Yet, we everything was just so fluid at the moment is dislike we're kind of just in a holding pattern Knows just weird you know getting. A even like a team dinner 'cause we there long eighteen dinner no-one could come in locker room. They just Kinda dropped the food at the at the door of locker room, and then we get to open the door to get the Food Fudan. So. Things like that bridges release strange but surreal. It's crazy. How back then those were unprecedented circumstances. Now it's commonplace like it's like, okay that's still the world is now in it's it's really wild to think about that. So. Touch what was it like kind of being the bub obviously for those first few scrimmage games and then like that must have been saying that to just be down there. No I mean I think the bubble was definitely interesting also as well. I can NBA done a great job just know keeping all the safety protocols great And just kind of set him. The whole thing -gistically. Obviously was a big thing just to put on. and. Nothing's gone pretty smoothly. You Know Not-i'm was there pretty short things will increase will be now. So the first few weeks were Kinda. Know yet so much free time 'cause weren't playing games. So we were just practicing once a day. You got a lot of free time and it's not really that much to do in on resorting go to the Pool Hinault. Place. Outside Games You can go ride the bike once the game started with planning every other day so. Do have times to do anything that no things went a lot better. Of, course, I, mean the difference between those those first two weeks of scrimmage James and then I mean you a week and a half to two weeks of of regular season games and then you go right into the playoffs I mean that must must've been such a shock just going from. All the different stages games only take months at monster to complete what was that kind of like just that complete switch around that day to day. I think was a little different I. Mean I think the big things that you know the NBA guys so we started in a home market before we went down or Landau. So we had guys but we you know we're in the Jammu's usually one player one player one coach. In that's all you could have on the floor. You know coaches at massing gloves on all those precautions though our guys did a great job, which is kind of staying in shape and building up to the point where we got to Orlando. So when we got there, no guys were Kinda in pretty good shape to get going. So we weren't Kinda starting from zero. Once we got down to training camp. In Orlando we of built up So where we were and bazars hit. So quickly, it was like you know we had a games, those games or every other day I think they've won back to back there. And then it was writing to play. So we kind of had to get into the swing things really quickly in kind of. Know. Snap out from being all of nominee wants were not three months in. Like. All right. We're we're back a season but almost felt like two separate seasons. You know what I mean because it was such a big break in between games. This season like are right. Integrate everybody back again, get everybody on the same page get our guys going with our guys did well adjusted pretty quickly. Of course are playing great you just I think half an inch away from moving on to the second round. So, now that you guys are back, what is it Kinda like now are you as just complete off season modern us. Still practicing that like. So we're we're kind of down time. Now you know Muslim players are probably our market and stuff like that. So No I know the teams that were not in the bubble they're doing a little minicam. So teams that didn't make the playoffs in, we'RE NOT DOWN IN ORLANDO. So I think they're doing two three week minicamp but right now we're off. Don't know when we're GONNA. Huddle back together. But. Still doing like small projects still watching basketball. On a daily basis, you know just Kinda do some personal development on my own. So that's that's kind of where we are right now. Of course, your whole story of just going from a school player that doesn't get. Any looks for college. Dominate Dominating College go in playing overseas for for years and years right when when people think that maybe even if he got to this point, he won't last long you play for years and then you end up coaching neither coaching NBA you're down the bubble in with just the most like you have to be so high up in the in the game basketball just to. Be, down there. So that must have been I mean just should journeys been remarkable in its it's so awesome to talk about someone that's that's been there and experienced something that I've been watching TV for religiously for the past three months I can't remember the last time I spent the day without watching the game. So they you so much for coming on I really appreciate it. I. Take a lot of accepts owed. Listening to the big fellows podcast check us out on all major social media platforms at big fellows pod to join the Chapa you can also listen to us on every podcast platform on the planet stay tuned for the next episode. Big Fellas.

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Bruce Feldman on the State of College Football

NFL: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks

50:23 min | 3 months ago

Bruce Feldman on the State of College Football

"And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up? Everybody Dj Bucky here for move the six bucks. Man I'm great man I I am hanging in there. Everything is good I'm excited to talk a little ball with you. Yeah. I'm excited. Talk with you excited to have our good buddy. joined the show today, and this is a conversation I think everybody's GonNa. Really enjoy kind of piggybacks what we were talking about the other day about the possibilities of spring, football and everything that's going on with with ninety and how these colleges are adjusting where things stand, there's no better person to talk to than our good friend. Bruce Feldman so today's episode is going to be that conversation and I. Hope You guys enjoy it. Here's our chat with Bruce. While buck excited to have our good friend. Bruce Feldman from Fox. Joining the show today Bruce. We've been a lot more conversations lately. Kind of off the air, just kind of checking in with one another to find out what's going on in the the football landscape right now. Can you kind of give us the thirty thousand foot view here of where things stand? Yeah, it's getting to be I. Think in the last two weeks. I think a lot of people inside. Inside the sport had become a lot more pessimistic. Quite honestly talking to a they've found is a lot of programs at had players that were fine in the facility, but then you'd have a bunch of guys. Go Play Madden. Get together. There'd be an outbreak. You guys go to a pool party. There'd be an outbreak. You guys go hit the bars, same story, and so from talking a lot of coaches because you'll even as we're taping this Oklahoma. Tested a whole bunch of players and there were no positive. It's a really good sign. Notre Dame was similar and there's a handful Michigan. State's numbers were good. But not everybody's not releasing their not numbers and full disclosure, and also I think it's those schools that have had it. The players haven't quite honestly taken it that seriously, and so in a d in The sec told me about a week. The problem is a lot of people have not taken this seriously enough. Especially eighteen to twenty two year olds and that's been wearing. Issue is, and the question is GonNa be the the numbers are high in a lot of places, and they haven't even done any football stuff. This is working out in small groups. It's not like they're doing nine seven drill. What's going to happen then? What's going to happen when they're around more? People on the campus. The cases are higher. That doesn't bode well, so everybody's kind of a wait and see mode. We'll see what happens by the end of this month, though hope to have a better picture on where they think they can hope to be for the fall. Rusen in about it because I know you've also talked to coaches. How're coaches even attempting to craft practice plans schedules in calendar where we haven't even really begin to progress out of the small pods when it comes to just working on the weight room. Right and some of them have talked about. We may have to stagger. Stagger how we do it in small groups. Maybe we don't have our. You know. Think about it this way. What happens if you're if you get an outbreak in your quarterback room? I'm a quarantine. That's three games. How's that GonNa work right so I think there's a lot of. Contingencies and scenario trying to sort out. There's a bunch of coaches by the way this doesn't probably get talked about enough. Who are in more of a risk category? We're not talking about nick. Saban's almost seventy. I've you're talking about the Arizona? Offense coordinator is in his mid sixties. In has some pre existing conditions. There's a handful of coaches on I. Feel like the chances of there's there's probably more. Usually at least one guy on a staff, whether he's sixty plots, or is not in good shape, or he has some pre existing conditions, so you talked to head coaches. Is that guy going to have to coach from the tower? How does that work? You have an offensive line coach. Those guys don't social distance anything so now, obviously have an offensive line coach with three existing conditions in house. That's that's a real concern for a lot of coaches around the country. And? It's you know this is the kind of thing. where I think it depends on who you talk to one thing you have to keep in mind. I think a lot of people. Look and say hey, the AD. At Notre, dame is is sounding one way and then Brian Kelly will talk to the athletic, and he sounds a little more optimistic. When you talk to coaches, I think one thing they realize is if there's GonNa, be a season. They have to have their guys ready and mentally ready, so they're going to try to be as optimistic on the record. At least as they can be Even if maybe behind the scenes, it may not be quite as optimistic in the message. They're they're they're they're sharing. Is there a chance you know we've seen a lot of these? Schools announced that they're going to be online. But is there. Is there a scenario where you have the athletes being the only people on campus I? Think that's not That's not unrealistic because what you're talking about is the bottom line money of it. Is Very very significant monumental as some people have described it to me in athletics, and so if that was the only way it could work, I mean I we did a the athletic did a player survey about a month ago and one of the things I heard from from a bunch of players that I talked to was. They were more concerned about being around regular students than they were about their teammates or in the facility. Because the regular students they felt like. They could be less. Responsible in how they acted and the people that are around, and that was harder, managed situation, and so you know I think that'd be a tough optic for for college athletics to say a we don't feel like it's safe to have regular students, but we're GONNA. Have the students who you know, we don't consider employees, but they're the ones who are depending on financially. That's a tough message for them to to to kind of Kinda of put out there whether they realize they're putting it out there. There are not so that's GonNa be you make you make the argument though Bruce? Could you make the argument that we're basically putting these guys in a bubble? Where if there's no other students on can't. We can't afford to test everybody in the student body. You know every other day or every week. We can't afford to test these athletes, so you could almost make a case. This might be the safest place if they're in that confined environment where we know we're getting tested. You know periodically. I think you could kind of make an argument might be. That might be on the side of safety, and you care about student athletes keeping the other people off campus I. I know it's a tricky one to kind of navigate it is I, mean and look the story you guys for about the viability of plan in the spring. A coach I talked to in the ACC really strong case about one thing that is not getting discussed enough is the mental health aspect of this. And he said look these guys are. ARE NOT NFL players a lot of them not all, but he said a lot of them really need structure, and if they do not have football, if they do not have an look, you guys both played it and at a high level I think there's an element of a means to an end of it meaning like the essence, you learn the things you pick up from football yet. They're kinda byproducts of what it is to be a team and being in that environment without a lot of that if there's. If, there's not gained to be prepared for. That is I don't WanNa. Say That's that's catastrophic. Potentially for some of the student athletes without is a big concern kind of under the same umbrella. What you just said I I don't think sometimes that works on twitter, because in whatever how many characters hundred twenty cards we have now people just try to pick up art that and it's not that simple for the reason you just said, and for the reason coach told me. This week so I think that's something that people should be mindful. Brusca you bring up a great point about the lack structure in young people in eighteen to twenty two in how these guys have playful bosses, seven or eight, and not having a season. would be detrimental. Just in terms of trying to keep them engaged not only. Athletics Academics. What about the parents, though because we've seen Christian in his wife, come talk about the parents. What do the parents of the players data kind of almost say potentially exposing their kids to the risk of playing in this pandemic What has been the feedback or feel for from those guys I? You know they've been the most vocal so far and I think you're starting to hear a little more from. From people from parents I think it's obviously anecdotal. I talked to an to apparent of a good quarterback I. Don't know he's a first round pick of quarterback, but it was and I think they all have their different perspectives on it. of what it is I. Don't think any everybody's uniform on this No know one thing that I heard from a d. Probably Power Five probably about ten days ago was his one of his big worries is we don't know anything about the long term effects of this thing. And he said so even if people are quote as symptomatic. Do we know what's going to be five years from now in the my head. I'm thinking well. You don't know the long term effects of playing football, either necessarily you're taking risks on that I mean it's a slippery slope to go down, but I think one of the things that a lot of coaches and these I've talked to that have been I think they've been very conscientious. About is for people to know. Hey, if you don't feel comfortable, coming back and playing, you will still have your scholarship and I think boozer messages that are are still being worked out right now. Because again, we're in such uncharted waters with this. One of the things going to be interesting. Say you know we do have a cancellation of season. We've already seen what the Patriot League in Ninety League and some of these kids you go through the evaluation process. It'll be a long time since we've seen them game action. By the time we get to the actual draft, but I'm just curious in your talks with coaches around the country in the time that they've had off, you know some of these guys didn't go through Spring Ball. They've been away from these players for long time as they've come back onto campus. Have you heard any stories about transformations either good or For some of these kids in the time they were way since they've been back on campus. They've been relatively positive. There was there was one coach I. Know and he has to both defensive linemen, and I think in the back is head. He's got one. That's really talented I. Mean They're both Donald? But one is a little older and the feeling was God. I hope this kid doesn't resurface four hundred fifteen pounds. Pounds or something like that wear, and so it's almost like. Oh, wait he only. He only gained twenty pounds. That's kind of a win, and because I think there's a concern of just you know again. This is kind of a lot of what bucky referred to before. It's just kind of your left to your own devices and some things it's not out of anything out of malice or anything out of. I don't even know if it's out of your responsibility. Maybe it is, but it's just. You know look. It's a really really stressful time for a lot of people, not just grown ups not to you know whatever so i. you don't know what kind of messages are how people are coping. Sometimes these guys COPE COPA by eating a lot right, and so when they're in I don't know I mean you guys probably have your own stories that you've witnessed some of the stuff. I've heard about coaches when they tried. It may make sure they're big guys. Don't go off the deep end eating. It's almost like well. We're GONNA have somebody keep an eye on them on the plane and not have the plane. That's an hour flight. What does this person? Apparently it's like somebody content pounds on a on the snacks on a plane. If it's like the that guy and so that's what I think. Some of the coaches are kind of Leery of is left to your own devices. Who are these guys in what what's going to happen? In terms of dietary reasons, you know we've talked about the indies. We're talking about guys that potentially could forgo their final season. If this season is postponed or move to the spring how significant is that concern amongst coaches that some of their five star players? Players they're blue chip. Players may not be available if the sees a move spring. Yeah I think it was a little less than I. expected, so I ended up the story that ran on the athletic. When when up yesterday we're taping. This I talked to twenty staffs and I had ten. Half the staff had said that there would be two or last. They they assessed would be would he would probably opt out, and then after the story I heard from another one. So who is also in that group that was eleven at twenty one. That surprise me a little bit because some of those schools were top fifteen schools, and they said we don't think our kids, and this is not just in field. This is not Trevor Lawrence guys who are seen as lock number ones. There's not a lot of guys you know. Who without film or lock top fifty guys right now. One of the schools I talked to which was also a top fifteen school that I think. They said they thought they had eight guys who would and that's a big number and he's he said. Said I think we have three guys who are legit top fifty guys, and we probably have a couple of others that are fringe. Guys who could be on the top hundred. He said we got one guy. He's at best amid round pick. We got another I. Think he's a late run. He's probably undrafted free agent I think their personalities are such where they'd leave. They would see and they would just leave and there's the worry on Social Media Oh. That guy's going in. I'm as good a player him I'm declaring and some. That kind of peace when you talk to coaches, but by and large I'd want to go through his conference power five league and he said I probably could count up and he did. This log were on the phone. Probably like eleven, guys who should even consider it, not necessarily definitely do it, and then the rest goes. They're making bad business decisions and one of the points are brought up in the story. As you look at the LSU team, there were five guys who went in the first round. One of them would have been first round. Pick in two of those guys I would argue. Patrick Green in Clyde probably wouldn't drafted at all based on what they had done beforehand, obviously that breakout. Breakout Season Patrick. Lane wasn't even start coming into the season, so maybe the one guy who would have been a first round pick wasn't that was grant elbit, but for the most part, and I'm not saying she was a little of an extreme example, but just because you were a five star guy in high school, most of those guys. Hopefully they're getting reality that you know. What what are we proven? I mean Dj and I talked about somebody off line. Who has some hype around him? They played a lot, but you know the people in your shoes, pros at first or second round pick if that guy has somebody in their ear telling him that they're probably getting bad business, advice and That's the part where I think it's hard. Read because right now a lot of times kids are GONNA sought not all, but some kids are GonNa just listen to what they want to hear because of their own. You know abandoning Egos Sake. The thing about numbers I would just add to that bruce that if I just go back in my talks with coaches, they always undershoot number of kids that they think are gonna come out because or some selfishness there. They want these kids to come back to help their program Nick. Savings can Torius for this all know you. All these guys need to come back to school. They're not ready like these guys are all going to be first round picks. And so like that number is always on the low side when they estimated and then the other thing was with the players. There's if you have the top fifty players. There are a hundred and fifty players in the country who believe they are top fifty players, and are having agents in their ear, reinforcing that their top fifty players. If you put all of college football, the players in the room and said how many of you guys were top fifty six. There'd be a heck of a lot more than fifty hands. That would that would go up that to me. Is The challenge with that? Right and I think some of that is going to be one coach in the power. Five League had said I got one player. I think would go these defensive lineman. He said I think that. You know I would not try to talk him out of it I. Think I would listen to him. And he said the challenge is going to be a lot of coaches. He said the trust factor is really not gonna be that high right now because we haven't been around him in a long time. Not It's not a normal off season so I think that adds to it and I think also. There's another element of this where. And I don't know how. I don't know what agents are going to sell. Certain guys because I think the point you just made is totally spot on, but. The part about. Hey, you know what you're taking a health risk by being out there. It's a pandemic. If. You're GONNA do that. You should at least get paid for it. And that I think especially given all a lot of other stuff that's gone on in the in the climate. Warren Right now. I can see a lot of skepticism going. You know what I love my teammates. We don't even know in the spring and this is something also I don't know how this plays out of its insurance season, but we don't even know if there's going to be championship. How's that going to work out? What exactly replaying for and so and this I hadn't thought ups, but one of the coaches I spoke to. The story had said what I think's going to happen. Is You'RE GONNA? Have a handful of guys are going to go? I showed enough I had a really good game in week. Four I'm shutting up pound. Sorry guys, and that probably works better with the time line that you know in terms of what the draft process is GonNa. Be You know what I'll play for a month in to that and then I'll show you what I can do, and then you've seen enough and watch now. Watch me on. And there's no cupcakes. There's no cupcakes where we normally would have to wait till we get to mid late. October before we see these guys play anybody now. If you're just doing the conference games, you're in the SEC conference games I see. You played three SEC Games, and you light it up. They're going to be sitting there. Going I got enough I'm out and yeah, and I think that's the nature of what we're talking about right now because. I didn't realize this until is worked on the story, but like I talked to big twelve coaches. They were saying Lincoln Riley back in April. Really Outline this possible spring situation why he thought it was viable in went through all these reasons. And I. Think because of that I think people. One of the arguments in there was hey, look. If we play in the spring, the evaluators will actually be able to probably see you in person. Come do the things that you know as opposed to. They don't really turn the page until after their seasons doughnuts, assuming the NFL has its season in the fall and the college, but so I think there's a lot of interesting eyars to that piece that you know it's like I said it's all TVD. We don't know how long season would be. We don't know if it's going to happen in the fall. We're hopeful, but. You know who knows at this point, but if I was a college athlete, who do you trust right now? And it's tough. Is stuff bruce in in thinking about the trust factor? So the the raise? The last five years has been early enroll lease high school. Athletes predict particularly five star athletes. They get on campus in January so they can go through spring practice. How would a spring league or spring season impact? Some of those guys because there are a number Gosh if particularly out West in California where we are that there may not be a full season, and so some of these guys are geared up to go who we see some of those early in release for -ticipant in a season that takes place in the spring. Yeah I would think that's exactly what would happen. Look? A modern got a five star cornerback he is, he is Kononov had called the John David booty kind of thing, but he's basically bypassing as senior high school I'm in. You know obviously at will help and I think you'll see a bunch of those I I remember a couple years ago. lsu played I wanNa, say it was UCF on that long win streak, and they played him in the festival, and they were really down a bunch of DB's I. Don't think greedy was gonNA. Plan the bowl game and Derek Stanley junior was already there, and they were like he's the best e we got, and now they couldn't play 'em yet. Yet because he was in that weird windows, jalen hurts was in that to live with or showed up where who like. Hey, we got a guy on the scout team was way more dynamic than any quarterback. We've had in a you know they can help them. Prepare now. The idea that could help them play and I also think if it came to that where you're talking about limited rosters. I think that would be one of the things that would help them. As a work around is, you'd have additional bodies. Were that how it's? GonNa wind up with scholarships because you know the the the initial twenty five I think. The NCAA is going to have to give them some roster flexibility. In this situation I just think you know again. I know the NCAA hates to create president, but this is so different the the time we're right now that I think they have to give people as much a chance as possible. He said, and I don't know what that means. Necessarily per J. C. Guys because junior college football's also punted for the fall so another batch of people. Depends who you talk to which union college coaches how many guys can get out academically by that time to be there mid-year? One one thing to piggyback on on that conversation you talk about guys coming from high school and potentially being able to play in the spring. If a kid, we're talking about this day me Bucky. If a kid is in Utah, right, say the High School football goes in Utah, make state, but that kid goes to the State Championship in Utah. He plays fourteen fifteen games of high school football in the fall, and then he's GonNa. Turn around a month and a half later and go. Go through a full college season I would say that would how? How would they be able to get that through? Yeah, that's the flip side of the argument. A lot of people made about why they didn't think spring. College football was viable this this year because they were like well. You're going to try to shoehorn two seasons into twenty twenty. One. What you're talking about is the the front end of it. It's like the Prideaux of that I guess, and if that's the case. You know they got to be? You know really smart because you're going in not knowing it right because. If, you're a college coach i. let's use Lincoln Riley I. Say we know you know what I don't know what Caleb Williams going to? Do on this front, but let's say you have a great quarterback. WHO's coming in and you're not coaching bike? You're not coaching them on the first. You know the first half of the of his playing season in the fall, so you really don't know how much they practice. It's probably quarterback is a bad example. Probably let's say it's a middle linebacker. Somebody who takes a lot more contact. You don't know how they practice I. Mean I think you'll probably have a semblance of idea how they practice, but then you're going to bring them into your own environment, especially with a kid who's probably unproven. At the college level, so teen years old eight hundred. Yeah, it's different I. Think Dj bounces object. Is I bounce about a few football people? I know yesterday morning about what happened to the AFC, guys I think they played games and there was a bunch of those guys who ended up sticking in the NFL, so he basically played a a euro straight of football, and now the reality is probably some of those. Those guys are twenty, two, twenty, three, twenty four, maybe even older than that. Whereas your example, the guy might be seventeen bodies not physically developed the same. I guess you just have to be very very careful in its. You've got to trust your training staff and your coaches to see if that is in their best interest, you know Bruce had a chance to talk to a couple of strength coaches and they're talking about. How. They normally go about where you have. Your normal travel squad. They may work out three times a week. And then you have your developmental squad, so mail you talking about up the ante, where you may not go into spring, and you have guys on campus, hardly going to manage the numbers in everything that you have going and then bringing influx of early enroll easy. Maybe Do Co. transfers trying to guys ready to play I just think it's A. A unique challenge. I don't know if anyone is fully vetted out and thought about I'm not sure they've gone that far down the road I will say this. The one thing that does to meet bode well at least on that front is between all the GPS stuff, all the tracking data that colleges have now. It's so much different now than it was ten years ago and certainly twenty five years ago, Think, they made so many technological advances, advancements and I think the sports science people are really really good on that front so I think at least. They have a clue on it. As opposed to well, you know are right. Guard looks like he's not moving great. Let's let's pull him back a little bit I. Think now they can measure that they have such a read on their athletes bodies in a way that we didn't ten years ago. I'm not saying I would just Kinda wave it off and go okay. We're good on that front, don't. Don't worry about it, but I think they have the science in that part they pay A. They pay a lot of attention to or at least most coaches I know seem to so I think that part is at least I think they have a handle on I. Think I don't know if it's how doable it all is in every case, but I think at least they they have the. Had the means to get a read on a true read on it. Our Bros last last question for me. I'm curious on the revenue side of things. If we assume we do have the power fives at least go often fall. We'll get a season with no fans. You know where we talk about it. We're faced with the NFL A huge revenue shortfall. Fans in the stands nfl you hear. Different ideas floated a generate revenue. Obviously, there's a new TV. TV contract that's it's on the horizon at the collegiate level. What are some ideas or what's being discussed about ways to you know eventually be able to to infl-. Get an influx a revenue to kinda recover well. There's TV deals that are coming down the pipeline. The part I would be concerned about is the TV networks are gonNA take a big hit right now. Right, I mean. Mean we're not. There's nothing on our networks of you know like there's been some things that draw ratings so i. don't know what those TV deals are. GonNa look like I. Think Right now. You're looking at huge haircuts that that a lot of businesses are taking so, what does that mean as the upshot like I had an ad who is now eighty, but he was at he. He was a more on the business side at a power five school and I asked him for like a breakdown of what it means attendance, wise and kind of the gate, numbers and everything, and it was I opening to me, and he was like I'm doing this all on a Napkin by the way and just kind of went through and I don't think that's something that. I can think to the eighties, said yes. We'll have a monumental impact on US financial. If we can't play, but I don't think we nobody has a great. True gauge on just what this is gonNA mean whether it's no attendance or twenty percent of the people in the crowds, because remember now all sudden your factory, and how much it's costing for them to test players on a weekly basis, and that's a lot. You're talking about so many other protocols moving workouts. Different things that that normally aren't in place. I don't know how you juggle the insurance part of this in some of the other liability things and so. Schools are are are cutting sports and I think that's just going to keep happening because right now. It's going to go under the umbrella of these really hard decisions, and they're not good optics, but we gotta do it for our bottom line i. just think right now. I don't want to say they don't have any clue of where they're going, but I think it's just hard for them to you know you have spreadsheets, so if we have five percent if we have no fans, if you know like, it's all over the map for them, and for instance like for the Max Bulls, just lost the big ten games last week. If you're bowling green, lost a couple of million dollars. Is that you don't recruit if the big ten dozen actually play this fall. Like how does how do those things work? I don't know how. You know like I. Don't know how they get a cost benefit analysis of saying okay. This is worth for us to do this because we're not to make that case to a lot of people about the attendance. Do you think it could ever Real Quick Book Do you think it could ever get to the point where it's been so taboo and so frowned upon but gambling if there's any any anything in terms of the gambling side with college athletics, it seems like two things that would have nothing to do with one another and they don't want anything to do with one another, but that's a huge influx of cash. If they ever did embrace that. I think they would run from it and also just think about how risky point you lines are. Be Right. Yeah you get to the kids own you know like if. We set a quarterback room. Goes down or anything like that. You know all of a sudden. That line is going to be off the board. We know why you're not telling us who you know. Whatever, but we know the reason, I think the gambling opponent of it now. I think that's what all sports key can imagine the theories of like Oh, so and so ate at this restaurant. Will we know the hostess has like? I. Know, I can imagine the rabbit holes. People are GonNa go down now. I. Had To let you go on this one because of the climate that in, and because we're kind of seeing a a a reset, reset with everything How upset has the NC double A. Model when it comes to student athletes, how is dead been infected and impact? If we don't have season and looking at the amount of money in revenue loss, the amount of sports that have been affected by the loss of basketball football. What is it going to do to amateurism model that the NCWA has always kinda trumpeted after. It's GonNa it's going to dwindle so much I remember one thing that we haven't talked about is the name image and likeness thing that was already in the pipeline, and they don't have a great handle on that and so. You know I I don't know like I. Don't know exactly what college athletics is GonNa Look like in twenty twenty two, but I think it's going to be radically different, and I'm not saying it's going to be for the worse or for the better necessarily. I think it's going to be really really different and for the college athletes who started as freshmen this past year from the time they leave. I think you're never gonNa have seen as much. Their pandemic, but certainly because the name image and likeness because the economic the issues that are going to that, but also because I think you look you. Guys are connected in the NFL. There's centralized leadership. The leadership model for the NCAA has never been as fragmented and seemingly as Rudderless as it is right now, and so that is a problem and I think it's a problem that a lot of people I. Think there's growing frustration you know I had this. Is this quote from one of the coaches I talked this week? It was like the NC is. Is A joke. There is no leadership right now. You know you go back to some of these things where they'll throw out. Recommendations and people are just like they had a statement. The NCAA had a statement about a week ago and it was like it seemed like it was a parody like it was really the you're GonNa put this out like this is meant nothing and I think that kind of element is hard for people to take it very seriously. Now Given House, dire and serious all these issues. They're sorting out our and I. think that's that's. Only GonNa make it that much harder for them to have credibility with the people they work with Inter supposed to be working for. Art I said last question. This is the last one because I want to go a little deeper on that. Is there a chance and I? Don't know the European soccer model extremely well. I know it a little bit, but it almost sounds like the AA could be heading towards that were that the conferences are kind of autonomous. They can run. They might run things differently by the conference. And then there's the Champions League, or whatever where you can get kind of games between the different conferences, but it almost seems like it's going to be decentralized in terms of the the leadership at the college level. Yeah, we'll look the NCAA has a college. College Basketball Tournament, it doesn't have any power over college football for better or worse in for elements. In this we're seeing it's for worse, but also it's like what is the what is What are the colleges getting out of this I? Mean this is you know you guys both live out on the West Coast, too I think for a Lotta USC friends for a long time when USC was going really good and carol days were like. What do we need you know the structure for? We could be just as fine on our own and I. Think People Look at whether they look at Notre. Dame's model and again it's hard to. Detach yourself from it because yes, football makes all the money which you still most. Your Athletic Department is tied to other sports and they relied on the NCAA for that I mean. And it's not to say the. NCAA does do some really good things, and obviously the value of college athletics for most of the people who are not going to be that that commercial. They would always run the NCAA tournament. Most players are not gonNA, end up as professional athletes, but I think they need to find a more efficient model and I don't know. People a lot smarter than me need to figure out. How that is viable. How do they make that work? Because right now what you're seeing from from certainly from the big ten where I feel like they've tried to take some, put their put themselves out there and to some degree following that from the pack twelve is, we need to be flexible. We need to have flexibility right now. Because of things aren't uniform, and things are all over the place and without that flexibility. We can't operate in the best way we can, so at this point, and that's what the big ten is done. That's what the pack twelve is doing and I'm curious. If more leagues end up going to that model for that flexibility, and we don't know that they will the ACC. There's been a lot of talk of that what they said they're gonNA. Wait a couple of weeks to decide what they do next. I think that could be a telling point where it's like. Hey, we need to add at the very least rethink the model. How efficient is because? Is it serving us that well? Yes, probably serving the smaller schools a lot better than it is for the people who are making most of the money, and as the realizing the ones who are making the money drive everything around it, and they're the ones who make who basically can help survivor. Dj I gotTA. Get this in because you brought this up. But now bruce just said it because you talked about college. Football is is kind of like the have the haves and the have not so we have the power five conferences who can do their thing? And then we have the group of five DJ talked about the spring football model where you have the group of five, and then the Ivy League the Patriot League the one double as in all of those like this could be beneficial to him because they may have an. An opportunity to give more apples them than ever. Can we ever see an opportunity where we have the power, five can operate like the Champions League the everybody else operates Unidad. Lower Division model, where maybe they have play offs, and all of those things because I. think that's a viable option for the group of five and the other people to generate revenue into kind of carve out a spot in his college football landscape. They really allows them to get interested they need. I got a An. Oc a really good FCS program in the guy should. He's worked before in in the power five and he made the case to me. He was like I think we should do just what you guys are talking about. I think we should be the ones who own the spring they. Tried to find a spring league, and it's never worked for one reason or another we can be that we can get the exposure. His one problem and you guys are uniquely positioned to address this is. What are we? GonNa do this about money game now. What are we gonNA do about the NFL draft process where they're going to players, look our our Guy Trae land. We all love him. You know is trey. Lance going to sit out. The draft process weren't eventually is in the pipeline because it doesn't line up exactly right and how this coach made. The point is like it would be tough for us to recruit some of those players. Especially in this is not north, Dakota state. But you know it's if you're. There are a bunch of guys who end up picking you know like let's. Go to stay picking a really powerful. FTS than they do somebody are power FCS into an F. B. S. N.. So, what do you do for those kids? Who can't you know can't get past the idea of hey. The NFL is not going to evaluate me. fairly maybe fairly the wrong word they're not. My evaluation is gonNA, be dramatically different than if I play in the fall when most of the prospects play. How long would it take him to get the season done bruce, if you started the first game for the group of five and January literally the day after. The National Championship game or that, Saturday after that how long went when with the completion be? If you time that out, I mean look how long they're seen as now I mean with the off that the F. sometime about the F. C. S. out. I mean you're dragging into April them? Now, can you get it done? If you started January one and granted some of these places again? We're talking I. mentioned North Dakota Stay. You know granted dome, but they. There are some weather concerns, but. If you get from. January February march. We've already passed the combine, and we're in a twelve weeks with no bites. So I I don't know if they would say hey, we're just gonNA play eight nine ten games, and at least get get it out by the end of March because everybody wants to have a championship, so that's the challenge I think is interesting. Finish off by the end of March because we know when the draft runs, and we already passed the combine, and after end of the season I don't know how worn down some of these guys. If you have a nose guard who's played for thirteen games? Is he going to be ready to test I? Mean what's his medical? On look like as he gets ready. You know it it. It kind of reminds me a little bit of a couple of different things. It reminds me of the stuff that we recently with the A. F. X. Phil, but really reminds me of NFL Europe. And there a way that the NFL Europe guys were able to be assimilated into the National Football League in Bruce I think Dj and I both. Both, know the NFL would love nothing better than to have a major event each and every month to seize it, and so when you're talking about the draft and the combine I think those things are easy shifts if they feel like the college landscape is changing moving the combat out of February into late March or early April moving to draft until May I. Don't think that significantly impacts the NFL. NFL calendar, but what it would do, it would almost give them an opportunity to have true evaluations on those guys from group of five, because their season would be closer to draft a which would enable scouts to really not get bogged down in a bunch of the conversations in innuendo sometimes clouds evaluation process in the Okay, let me ask you a question since you guys worked for NFL network. Network so you guys have college games last season. Right? So think about this, and this is a novice person's view of it, but the NFL has done a masterful job of extending its brand it season whether traders. You're all the things that you know. We see year round, and it's great I mean I. You know I pay attention to it, but if you were to say hey, you know what. WE'RE GONNA sign on I keep coming back to to north. Dakota state because of the best best program at point, but if you're even say group of five schools. You could have a gay. You know two games of the week if the NFL was going to buy in on it and said you know what. and I don't know how this squares with with policy and everything, but like you get to watch. trae lands are to draft. Analysts have talked about him. You don't think a lot of people would tune into watch. trae lance are guaranteed they would you know it would blow away the AF xfl ratings? If like I was telling bucket the spring and I got a chance to watch Houston and Alesana Tech. Tech I'd be stoked like you've made that. I'll take that all day long over a two teams and xfl. Af I know nothing about air about you can sell people on more quiz Stevenson in that case earlier and then I again I think it extends the football season I. Feel like that might be the way again. It's not my place to say hey. The NFL should push back the draft because. FCS would say we'd be open to do a deal with you. GUYS FOR FOR TV to extend the season and then maybe you bought I again. I don't know all the things that would would get outta line for them for you know bumping back the draft colander, and and how they'd have to reconfigure it, but I do think it would extend it extended interest in a way that's not really there when everybody else was talking about pitchers and catchers in the padres. And and the. Job! Because third DJ shot. Man Sixty wouldn't look. It would be no different than baseball. Because Baseball's draft kind of goes on while baseball, season is being conducted. We see high school players in college players drafted in the middle of the college world series in the life so i. don't think it would change that much I just think it makes too much sense. Because Bruce I'm a football Junkie Digital Jackie. You obviously are as well just think about the amount of interest at you. See the edey games spring. Spring. Football draws numbers because we are thirsty for football I. Just think it makes so much sense instead of trying to fight the power, five may go carve your lane, and you can kind of be the king of the spring, because it is going to overwhelm every other sport that is on display seen happen sometime again and again. I come back to the element of discovery. If you could portray like I mean just anecdotally like betray, Lance store, I did it blew up. Production Wise I saw you know even K. Johnson not to the same extent, but slot receiver from South Dakota staying. There's an element of. Of who is the new guy or whatever and so you know I? It's not a coincidence that a lot of draft sites do there too early top first round right after the last draft people. Out Yeah, so you and I'm not saying that's the only reason why people should wanNA. Watch a Marshall. Middle Tennessee state game or something, but I think under the guise of that I think they could sell it as a work around and again I think people tuning because people are desperate for football and. At that point you think about like all the coaches that would be watching. These guys. Do you know it's like they actually have a chance to study it most coaches. I don't think I've ever seen. Some of these teams play in real time always playing on their own time so I think even that element would be Kinda fascinating to see it happen and getting its own own stage. And we could go down a million rabbit holes because that you just said that I'm sitting here, thinking like. Oh, my gosh, imagine the power five coaches watching the group of five plan this spring. I'm going to recruit him. I'm going to take him. He's a graduate transfer income in I mean it would be fun though it would just create a conversation throughout the entire year Arbor's. We've got let go and I I was planning on keeping your ten fifteen minutes or forty minutes because we just. So Fun to talk with you man. I am pretty soggy right now. What are we got? What is that Captain Crunch? What are you working with? That is a multi Does it's real target? Okay. We'll get your your sake here. Chris thanks for your time. You're the best always a pleasure. Thank you, guys. Buck I mean we could've gone on for another two hours. Every every answer to every question brought up another. You know thought of what could happen and where things could go, but I I think we're onto something here with this whole group of five going in spring. I think it's a fantastic idea. I think we've seen TV tells the Steph football is king so imagine in both areas? We noted NFL dominates whenever they kick off from the time to kick off in August all the way through the beginning of February College. also is a dominant force, but to split up college football where you have power five conferences operating in the fall in a group of five FCS dominating Spring Man, you talk about twelve months of Football I. Don't think people could get enough of and just thinking about all the money that has been lost during this time we talk about TV. Revenues, everybody being affected the gate, or whatever imagined the TV. Opportunities that they will be able to recoup some of their losses by being able to draw big numbers, advertisers sponsorships to be able to make for some of the money that they loss. When we're talking about the the difference with the power five, not having NCWA I know Bruce was saying they don't govern the playoffs and all that of stuff, but there are rules NCWA rules, obviously that govern all of those conferences in the same way I I don't I think we're headed away from that I. Do I think you're GonNa? See the SEC with the name image likeness might say okay. We're unlimited. You can make as much as you want. Blah Blah this set of rules for for that conference, and then the big ten or PAC twelve. Maybe they have caps on it. Maybe they have different rules in terms of we WANNA be able to take in more scholarship players or fewer scholarship players. They're not going to be beholden to all those same rules. They can operate independently in their league, and then they kind of get together and say okay. Once we do this. We'll take the best player whoever wins each of our leagues Bego. Play each other in a in a playoff type atmosphere. I? Mean I just think it'll be outstanding if you could create that the playoff thing because I think that would be the thing that drives it over. I watch those playoff games in December. I love watching those teams play and I think there's a level of entry that everyone would get on. Because not only the the FCS division wants goes where we talked. Talked about North Dakota state, or whatever, but what about some of those other schools Mount Unions that we've seen Wisconsin Whitewater in in those schools. It really gives us an opportunity to see ball played at a different level and I'm one of those that believes all is good ball to have an opportunity to really dive in and see those guys and. Bruce made argument about. How do you convince those guys that may have NFL aspirations whatever like I understand it, but I also understand you're actually building bigger brand and platform for those guys when you're division, three or division, two player. Everyone doesn't really get a chance to see in. Appreciate your game in the spring. All allows, you would have an opportunity to really be a star. Leverage your platform until your civilian life going on. Because everyone has an opportunity, it would give TV's TV networks an opportunity to build stars in those leagues that don't necessarily exist in the fall, no doubt. It's it's fun. It's fun conversation anything. You're working on buck that we want to get out there. Everybody no I'm just reassessing the conversation that we had like. preseason football. What does it mean for? The teams I take off. Is something that we've talked about on defense? The defense of quartets muting most teams are built to championship teams to pass rushers one second level defender at linebacker in someone in the secondary that are blue chip players who are the five best teams with defensive quartets I love that be on. On the lookout for that NFL dot com slash bucky Brooks. Also TV show is going to return next week. That's Thursday July twenty third at six PM Eastern time on NFL network, so you can be on the lookout for that and Buck I'm having fun man I told you that my little project with by Youtube page, so I got my youtube page up. Just kind of farting around on their throwing some different I saw. You put some graphics on like. On My college staff don't Alex Staff. I got working on this thing right now. Oh, yes, of he got some people were. Shot. Mica Mica doing good work for me, man I'll k. What you do! Anything at your internship. They get their internship I. Get my graphics. wentz okay SCU followed the footsteps of a former general managing. You got a little Dream Team work behind behind the scenes. That's right. That's what that's what we work document and. Having Fun of this kind of taking different ideas, different things that we've talked about and and Kinda repack them and then put him on there so that it can live on their. It's real easy to find is just youtubecom sites sticks, but I'm looking forward to Kinda. See where it goes. I feel like when you kind of set up your own page. You kind of get the behind the hood, and you can kind of say okay. This works. This doesn't work. This is too long too short. It's been it's been a fun learning process. Meanwhile I've been working on a youtube channel myself, but it's not for me for my son. I've been putting. Putting his baseball I've put in his baseball stuff up there because we're in the middle of hidden interesting year, this pandemic has come to Christ all the baseball showcases, so dad is said to be a little more proactive, trying to get his stuff out, even though he had an abbreviated season, so I to have been playing tips from movie, moviemaker and uploading an audit, other stuff is is quite as why the GEL is. I'm not quite ready to be a youtube star, but is is definitely an interesting outlet US I'll just say this. I signed up I have a twitter account. I'm just saying I have a twitter account you video games to bell. I'm exploring different formats book I'm exploring different formats, but there's cool things. Coming I I'm not putting that out there yet where it could be embarrassed by saw it, but it's gonna I'm learning I'm trying to forty two. I'm a young forty two bucks no. Big Deal? It's funny that you talk about the twitch. They must send has been on twitter for a few years. And started when he was playing league of legends like a video game, and he would go and watch people. Play Video Games. That was like what are you doing in this guy? Flavian what? Explosion with explosion of each sports in the explosion of people, utilizing what I would call like these these offramp platforms I do believe that there is a lane that can be utilized elevated. Amplify Your Voice. No doubt anyways this fun man. We just kind of trying to learn at every facet of our life here as we go forward, but that's going to do it for today. Hope you guys enjoyed that conversation. Thanks to David, Sanger for our buddy, bruce thanks bruce for being so generous with his time That's GONNA. Do It for today. We'll catch you next time right here on. move the sticks.

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"Pardon the interruption. But I'm Michael Obama's National Entrepreneurs Day Tony you ever started a business. I'm Tony Kornheiser show worn underpants. I may have overestimated demand. I didn't go in that way. I was thinking you were going to comment on my restaurant. Roze Yeah I you know. I thought you were going to go that I've learned enough to know now that I'm not a good business. I'd hope that were journalists. Aren't good business people. This is breaking new. I don't know I know I'm not by the way I had a good bowl of Chili issue closed at joint. Yeah what am I doing. What am I supposed to do all winter? Yeah we'll make it at the house and send it over to you. I've Mattie bringing by Golden Boys and girls in today's episode two of faces an uncertain future baseball plans to chop the minor leagues and Antonio Brown Apologize. I just the Patriot League for that. But we begin today with Philip rivers that thirty-seven-year-old quarterback for the chargers threw four interceptions last night including a game killer in the end zone with eighteen seconds left that allowed Kansas City to escape with a twenty four seventeen victory so talk today is about rivers will bond. Philip rivers is an eight time pro bowler. Last year. He had thirty two touchdowns and twelve interceptions. But we are in this year. Is it over for rivers. Necessarily I mean so. We're going to say the the pro. Bowlers have never come back the next season even in the season when they've been pro bowlers and not had back to back van weeks. Of course they have is only the world in which we live in the culture in which we live in our our commentary is so just dramatic and over the top after every game which you know I understand. It works in football better than a dozen baseball spoiler basketball hockey. 'cause there's so many more Games football you can't compartmentalize like that but Philip rivers can come back and have three straight great game so you wouldn't go to tyrod Taylor -lutely -lutely not by the way. Did you know tyrod Taylor was even in the league anymore. I did not know you know. I think it's over for Philip rivers in this regard. I don't think he's ever going to super football. Wait wait but you said that five years now but those well when so coming out of last year that was a twelve and fourteen and a playoff team and there was every reasonably would be a competitive team agree. I would say that along with the Chicago bears. These are the most disappointing teams in sport at the moment and Philip rivers now he always looked like he laboured when he threw is Moshe was never great. No but it looks like he's having difficulty with a deep ball. What I would say is this? We have been dazzled by Tom Brady because even and at forty one maybe not right now but at forty one a super bowl we have been dazzled and blinded by drew brees who was very effective at forty and yet we've seen gene Eli Manning. He's probably done certainly done with. Maybe a couple of years early so this is yeah so so when Philip Rivers case I just told me I give you. Don't I think he's GONNA run run in the playoffs. He'd be great or as good as he was five years ago anymore. This is what am I ready to bench him. Well I'll say this. This is seven picks in two games two weeks with this was James Winston. We'd be Jane leaning doesn't teen previous years of work and so on which the John Credit for that make you bet right now about Philip rivers in that game he plays. I might be very good. I bet you. Philip rivers throws for two eighty eighty five or higher and has three touchdowns to no more than one pick in the very next game. I'll bet you to help it. 'cause the guy's been around for a long long sometimes. I'll playing well at that position so you on Brady and it goes. WHO's Oh they're the same thirty seven thirty eight hundred class? Yeah all right and this is zero in on what the chiefs did last night. Mahomes one thousand nine hundred thirty two which is sub par for him and the fact that he led his team in rushing with fifty nine yards. Probably isn't that good sign overall but even with the Kansas City win. They're just three or four near last seven games telling. The cheese came awfully close to blowing it last night. Is this a win. They should be proud of I would call it. An unimpressive win. All right. The chiefs there are numbers that work against the chiefs chiefs. We'll go to the glasses to make sure about. This defense is bad. Their thirtieth in the League in Rush Defense Thirty their twentieth in points allowed. These are not Super Super Bowl. Numbers the only thing that I push back on saying that is they have the magic pin. They have mahomes who at any given point can throw it. Seventy in in the air and bang. You've got a touchdown. So I do not eliminate the chiefs as long as he's out. No no no now. That look is this an impressive win. Yeah she is is a win issue being satisfied with the context when you beat a division opponent. We've seen this blow up on other teams this year. When you when you when you who the ravens loose to get killed by rounds young ball so individual when I do my pool my confidence pool I never assign a double digit number in in division unless it's the Patriots going against years and years and years of the bills jets and dolphins everybody else single digit indecision Game Tony? They beat a division division opponent now knows a neutral site. It wasn't on the road but away from home where they've been strongly. Anyway you breathe easily you go to the next game and you try gotta get but let's look at the at that division because Baltimore is way ahead of them. It would seem to me and New England we think is ahead of them because England Bella check who rarely loses in the conflict. No I division. It's something like that but the other teams Indianapolis Oakland Buffalo Houston. Yeah Yeah I only problem in and we both love Andy Reid Andy. Reid has been in the playoffs. Fourteen Times he's going to one super bowl. Ones are only Marty. Schottenheimer has has a more futile playoff record. I think he went thirteen times. Never got the super bowl gotta be real about. Is it that another reason why you say last night. Just Win Win Games. Let's get back to to if we could okay. Everyone assumed to or would forego his final year of eligibility at Alabama and enter the NFL draft. This April and be the number one quarterback picked but given his latest injury injury. There is talk that will drop in this draft. We'll bond to skip this draft to get healthy and or returned to Alabama next season for one more shot shot turning to Alabama's not going to happen. It shouldn't happen When I first thought about this topic which has been discussed nauseam all day everywhere I thought? Oh maybe no no no no. He's not going back to Alabama. He shouldn't go back and be ill advised and he could cost himself all the rest of the money and he's already lost a ton. This is simple. It's not going to happen. No adviser is gonNA tell him he should go back to school and he won't so my answer is qualified to this and and it depends on. I think he is fragile. But my opinion isn't that important. What does he think about his fragility? Is he indeed fragile because if he is fragile you gotta go right now because you don't know how long you're going to play. But if he wants to bet on himself and his good health I think it's wise is to get healthy. Get Out of this draft. Get away get as much separation from these three injuries in the last two seasons as possible because GM's backing away from him and the difference between going high in the first round one to three something like that and low in the first round named Bugsy Twenty Million Dollars Valerie. And if he comes back and he's healthy theology presume that he's had four surgeries in the last seventeen eighteen months. Why would you do you so do you think he's fragile? Although I don't care about what he was what ball he plays him. Do you think you'll be glad you'll get hurt again. Is What we're getting I would. I would not want to bet that he's going to be healthy out there there. I wouldn't bet on anybody being healthy. Over course what about just gets away from this draft and he sits out and he doesn't play it Alabama next year but he takes a a year to Rehab and get what about that Tony Number to move but I I it sounds and and we don't know it sounds talking to doctors like the notion of the surgery was successful. I'm a doctor not that kind. Thank God you're not that kind of Because he needs to be healthy for the draft now for another college basketball season I would by the way another sport like I would go your way. I run a run away from this because I can't participate combine and GM's are publicly publicly saying Ou. We're so I said the number two options you wouldn't want him late Alabama and we're playing there all right the Houston Astros at the center of another potentially embarrassing episode according to reporting weeks ago by baseball America and further examined more recently. And it's your boy news. The the Astros are leading an effort to essentially destroy grass roots baseball by contracting forty two of the one hundred and sixty minor league teams. It's a quarter why to save money. Of course the proposed plan would eliminate rookie leagues and target communities. That don't have major league or high level. Minor League League baseball like Montana. Idaho Dakota's Tennessee tone. Can you come up with a scenario where this makes any sense at all. So I fear that I'm going to sound like a foolish romantic mantech. And what I say to begin this segment because I love baseball and I think the minor leagues and I love Bull. Durham and I think the minor leagues are the Wellspring L. Spring the foundation of all baseball. The team in in Binghamton New York where I went to college. The rumble ponies. They'd be excised yeah. I went to college when they were the Binghamton triplets. I went to a couple of games Thurman Munson played on that team and I was in college. You saw Thurman Munson play. I don't remember I don't remember without. I saw him but I know he played it on. You and I know I went to some games right. I my sense of this is if you if you are fearful that young people. I don't like baseball. You're chopping off at the knees if you take away baseball from markets that are hundreds of miles from major major league cities. This is baseball to all that. And we know that we know that even the we live in mid you and I lived with Multiple Major League teams in the the community. Grew up with you but we also have romanticized yes loving to go and sit in a minor league park and and they make all the people who didn't have access into the giants Yankees mets cubs. White Sox this is their baseball. This is the national pastime. Not The big market pastime of Jeff Luna. Let me just say this with every day that passes. This seems John. I do a guy who has no interest but his own. What what pitch can we identify illegally in the moment and he has no sense of baseball in the community advisor standing on record? What Jeff Liu now is saying is that there should only be with each team? A hundred and fifty people in your minor league system. What differences if the Yankees want to have three hundred if he thinks that over one hundred fifty? They're not gonna make the majors anyway. Shut up about once in every sport who thinks they are keepers of the flame right increasingly name but he's snuffing out in the name of saving money and being interested in his own little feifdom. That's always seems to I care about. Now let's take a break coming up. Would you rather have Dak Prescott. Tom Brady when they play each other on Sunday question. Would you rather watch mellow. Hello or the Brown tonight tossed up next. That's not a question you told me. Yeah the BINGHAMTON would lose a team. That's not fair. They're not GEICO presents. Not again another voicemail from your roommate. Hey man so I was in a rush to get to work and I left the back door open. Could you shut it. Lifted Wide Open. While you're there could you also turn off the oven and all of the burners. My mom never let me use the oven. I I wonder why the Geico Insurance Agency could help. Keep your personal property protected. Like if it's your roommate's first time operating in oven visit GEICO DOT COM to see how easy easy it is to switch and save on Renter's insurance. It's time for tossup where Wilbon plays the role all of Philip rivers and I play the role of chief I toss up. They played this Sunday night. Better team the packers are the niners so I think that right now now before the forty niners head into the brutal part of their schedule I think they are slightly better their record nine in one the packers eight and two that may be because because their schedule has been easier to this point. They are number two in scoring offense. They are number two in scoring defense. The packers are ninth and fourteenth in those categories. The big advantage the packers have of course Aaron Rodgers who can win any game that he plays and may very well in sunny but I think the niners are a little bit better and so Tony. We're talking about tiebreakers if talking about tie breakers I'm skipping all those other categories straight to the person who has the greatest impact on the game number twelve that would Libyan Rod. That's what he can do it on the road. He can do it at home he can do. It gets great defenses. That's right so if again if they're too close us to really separate and they are and I might even take the niners the same reason you scheduled particularly the schedule so brutal. So we're looking at it. I think they have Brian Nine Saints. Yeah right in a row. That's hard you know if the game was in Green Bay we're both GonNa take the packers into the game. The San Francisco. We might take the packers because Aaron Rodgers. I still think there's a window window a couple more seasons. Rogers is the guy next toss up. Which quarterback would you rather have on Sunday Dak Prescott or Tom Brady? Take all the time you hopefully Dak Prescott passed for four hundred forty four yards and three touchdowns great brady to sixteen and no touchdowns in their last is three games. Prescott has nine touchdowns and eleven hundred yards. Brady has three touchdowns and seven hundred sixty yards. Brady's throwing the ball on the ground and sailed over receivers. Only an idiot would take Tom Brady. I am an idiot. I am going to take Tom Brady because I cannot put him in the rivers and Eli lumping yet. Kim Can't you've left me way too much. That say of course taking Tom Brady understand. Only a fool wouldn't not if you're projecting forward for the next few the years you're gonNA take back. Yeah I mean you might even take by the time we but we're asking this question today. Tom Brady Upright Ambulatory today. Today's right right even if he's doing lately right doesn't look Tom. Yes I think golden boy. Either I'm reading next tossup. WHO's having the better season Yata such a coupon or look at so? Let me say for the record that I do not care about this question. I do not care about the NBA in November. But if we're GONNA take this question we're leaving a couple of people out here onto to Colombo and don't you don chips they're great. They're each averaging averaging thirty points but Lebron James is leading the league in assists as he tries to retool his game for the benefit of others and his team name is plus nine which is better than Dallas and better than the walkie and James Harden is averaging thirty nine point two points. It's a game leading the league and his team is plus eight. Okay so so you can have this quote you just named four of the five people on your first first team all NBA at this point. Okay I'M GONNA go back to the question for a second because onto pupo. He's better than he was last year. So far give the pizzas. Don Cuco his having a better. CC shooting at three which he doesn't need really should get a jump shot that appears better higher percentage the answer the answer the answer is Don Don. She is now one of the five best players legally came from nowhere he wasn't he's not the reigning. MVP marginally better. The last thing you Lebron aren't leaving that that was the question. The question was on the last night. Reject goes to bench next five explosively. Toss Up. Who would you rather watch tonight? Mellow or Lebron. So the short answer of course is Lebron James. He's a better player. Not Too nice likely to play a lot more minutes. Carmelo Anthony and I understand. The curiosity is three. He played in Portland or not on Portland Miles away from his home him and he is now wearing double zero and he has confused with a lengthy explanation of why double zero he seems to have confused. Okay Double Zero with Infinity Double Zero. It seems to me would relate to the amount of defense. He's going to play out on the court at any given time. I wish him all the luck in the world but his career is winding down. Lebron James is in a position to win a championship and he's a better player now by far than his good. That has the thing to do with. Why you'd WanNa Watch Carmelo tonight? This is the small picture question that a big picture question. This is how is he going to play with Dame and CJ AJ is Carmelo going to give them the scoring spacing. First of all in the frame. Right it's not days gene. Then Daytime Dame Helen Mirren Org Judi dench's did not invent things there's lillard venues. Admiral and Portland Needs Carmelo and he has how many how many nudity game tonight night and no game over this year. I'M GONNA say he'll get up to twenty six game. Will they start him. I would think they'd start him. I can't wait to see Carmella said wishing let's say one rare silver calm. Mike Tomlin has something to say to those of you who believe the steelers provoked Thursday nights fight because this visual of a finger finger is that it does Garner hathaway deserve suspension this day. What are your capital writing? Yeah I know I don't know about you. People Happy Time. People have been sixty first birthday. Michael Ray Wilbert. Now one of the two original host of the thousand nine Wilbon left after the show take a job as a social media influence and endorse products including Garrett's pop jam. Baby now spend summers. I was in Chicago and winters in Arizona. The show took a quick ratings hit but rebounded to become the number one baby boo buddy. Show any idea what what happened to that guy. No no he has a birthday with a lot of great. Look at you on Larry King. Yeah MoD was shot down others a lot out of a November nineteen baby. Keep a close to yard happy anniversary chiefs in Rams on this day last year the two teams combined for one hundred five points in a rams fifty four to fifty one win. Jared topless thirty one of forty nine for four thirteen and four touchdowns outdoing eventual league. MVP Patrick Mahomes. Who himself passed for four seventy eight and six touchdowns albeit with five turnovers they were combined eighteen and two going into that game and now they are much? It's less than that only a combined. Thirteen eight what happens in antique is composed teams. But at least you say injuries sort of slow the chiefs of little what about the rams happy trails Garnett hathaway. The Washington capitals forward was tossed from the game last night for spitting on an Anaheim in the second period period in hockey. You can hit a guy with a stick in the head or the face of the Nether regions. Nothing really happens but you spit on halfway. Tried to deny any attempt by saying and I quote unfortunately spit came out that sucker punch dunk. We'll buy me inviting this. No I don't know. He spat on him. But he also got sucker punch. You get sucker punch you know what other things are at your disposal. Quick to the big finish Omlund says. He doesn't know if the steelers had anything to doing. Provoking the fight against the Brown and Green Novick did his quarterback should be suspended for game period. Antonio Brown apologizes the Patriots on Social Media. What what did you think he should stay off social media? He Digs a hole from the patriots but would be well served getting back ill today put if they could Karl Anthony. Towns had seven threes in impressed towns having a pretty darn good season Minnesota just in a pretty good really good Russell. 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Hour 1: Patrick Hruby & Calls

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping. Businesses manage customer questions with Watson. Assistant it's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Cried Passion Patron, tree of college football leaves here. Paul Finebaum show our one podcast. Good afternoon. We really appreciate all of you. Being here I know for some. It's been to a absence. Many do I hope have been listening to us? On the radio and if you have. You've heard quite a bit of news and unfortunately not too much of it has been very good and that's where we begin on this Monday. We are right. Smack in the middle of July. Normally we would in a perfect world. We would be media days, but we're not and the Commissioner of the SEC who currently is meeting with his fourteen Comrades so the ad of the SEC said over the weekend is concerned about the football. Season is high to very high or earlier this weekend with Mark McGee high to very high, I look at the numbers every day. The important issues, not just numbers or looking at numbers it is trying to understand and comprehend, and that's where literally you want experts now moving away from the scroll, the titles at the bottom of the TV screen, or the interviews of this expert of that find people out of the public. Who are highly intelligent, highly educated skilled? At helping guide information and we put a medical advisory group together in early April with the question of what do we do to get back to activity and they've been a big part of the conversation. But the direct reality is not good and the notion that we've politicized medical guidance of distancing and. And breathing masks and and and hand sanitation. Ventilation being outside being careful where you are in buildings I mean there's some very clear advice about you can't mitigate and eliminate every risk. But how do you minimize? The risk and try to say that everybody listening you know you watch Marty when he's sitting in a lawn chair outside and Ashkar facility, because he's not in the inner bubble from time to time, and he's, he's got himself protected and I go to starbucks, and wherever and and I've got a mask on. We have to heat that we. We are running out of time. to crack and get things right and just -ociety. We owe it to each other in my view. To be as healthy as we can be, so you're welcome to interpret that anyway you want and we will certainly discuss that all day long, and we will talk to the commissioner a little bit later on when she when he's finished meeting with the athletic directors well so many. Leagues Have Changed Protocol the last Wednesday announced. It was doing away with football for this semester and the Patriot League announced the same thing today yet. Another shoe dropping Patriot league. Done at least until the spring. Many are trying to revisit in the spring summer. Skeptical of whether or not that will work. And there are so much so much conversation about You I forgot one already. The National Junior College Athletic Association is expected to do the very same thing right now. Many many of these dominoes are falling. They're all seemingly falling the same way as we all try to deal with with cove and try to figure out You know where we're going to be in a couple of weeks whether kids are going to school students. High School. College, all these things are certainly on on the agenda, and again as you try to find a positive headline, don't look here. Corona virus is spreading in fraternity houses, raising concerns for campus housing that that according to the Washington Post so No matter where you look you'll unfortunately get a negative headline. right now and We'll talk to the author of this article later on Patrick. Ruby about how the NCW is not built to protect athletes, and it really is not and. Many of us are beginning to wonder what the NCWA is built for based on these last four months passed Ruby, joining us Michael, sue again He was with a couple of months ago. Some strong words he's a region in the big ten Ross dellinger. WHO's been covering this story? very diligently for sports illustrated. Branded Marcello believes. Here. There's some positivity here. He he believes that the conference only system gives us a chance to get the season and Greg Sankey as I mentioned the SEC Commissioner six thirty PM eastern time. He will join us and. Give Leeson update on what what has an is being discussed the SEC, had a regular scheduled conversation today with all the athletic directors They have met in person in Birmingham. The downtown headquarters of the SEC and we Eagerly and anxiously await to see. What comes to that a lot of people have cautioned. There probably would not be any big announcement today. That's what they they have cautioned. Sometimes people caution you for something and That's usually what that often what happens not always though show, we are also going to welcome. Your phone calls at eight, five, five, four, two, seven, two, eight, five I know a lot of you have been missing us these last two weeks, so we We are very eager to get your calls back on the air, but we do have a very heavy guest list as you can imagine. and some really good news. If you're Georgia, fan JT Daniels, coming over from Southern Cal, thanking the NC Double A. for granting him immediate eligibility. This is an interesting story Everyone was looking Jamie Newman. As the heir apparent. Georgia may have a pretty competitive keeble on tap is as all the all the schools are beginning to to move from voluntary to supervise workouts beginning this week, so let's get to the calls here. At Eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five, eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven, two, eight, five, and Greg started off for us from. Alabama Hello Greg good afternoon. NEW POLICY FOR TAKING MY CALL I. AM interested. To know if I know that the SEC athletic directors have met with the you know Greg Sankey. And they do so regularly, but I'm wondering how much communication there has been amongst the power five conference commissioners. Especially in light of the big ten's decision. To start all this off in a different direction, and there seems to be a lot of chatter, but not any clear guidance yet as to. What was actually the season? If we have one is going to look like? Well remember something, Gra- Greg I mean they? They have an affiliation with each other, but it's. Not Formal, it's not concrete, and from what I what I've heard from commissioners, and we spoken to all of them I. Believe are almost all of them on this program. They had a meeting. Usually every morning. including last week when the big ten went rogue so I think the hope of of all of them. Working together in concert is gone. I think. The real fear is that if one of the power five? Pick Take Your pick PAC ten. PAC twelve big ten, whatever decides to make a dramatic statement here by not playing this fall, you know what what would it mean for everyone else, but I mean they're collegial, but by no means obligated. Well I think it. At least in the short term, if someone decided to go in that direction and not play. I don't know necessarily that would preclude everybody else from playing, but I also think that regardless of how the season folds out. This is not going to do well for the group of five conference, and their continued relationship with the power five and I believe as we have talked before that even more so now. This is going to really cause a final separation between the two when it comes to play off possibilities. I think you're dead. Right about that. Hey, thanks for the call appreciate. A pack is in Georgia Pat. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey Paul thanks. I didn't do a very good job of asking you of. Simple question and and believe I fended you and and I apologize I. I meant no harm. I really did not mean any harm. It's great. That Georgia's got the transfer from California. I don't think we're going to play football this year. I honestly don't think the season's GonNa Start. And if the season does start. I think someone's going to die. And then. I mean I, guess they'll just stop these in there I'm more interested in K through twelve Paul. Because I. Think they got the same problem and I. Do have a dog in that fight I've got two grandsons. I. Don't see how we can open K. through twelve this year. And everybody wants it. Yeah. I think the easy answer to your question on everything. Right now patters. Nobody knows and all these school systems. These school systems that were making absolute statements are going to be Be Proven to look really prescient a release stupid All people have been selling right now. Is Hope. college at College. Administrators have been selling show for three months. school officials, politicians and The reality of the situation is we are now at a time when decisions have to be made and I tend to agree with you on all of that. Well and and it's unfortunate but I just it's. It's not gonNA happen, and if they out, make it happen. Somebody's GonNa die. I think the concern is that it will be more than somebody but but anyway I I don't know and and I don't think. I still don't think anyone really knows. I mean that's what's so remarkable about all this and I'm not You know I'm only in charge of showing up here at work every day, but you know if I'm sitting there as a college commissioner, I'm going to do everything I can. I'm going to exhaust every avenue to to get this season underway. At some point you, you may have to cross the bridge. That is not going to happen. You Make Cross a bridge. It does happen, but. Right now we're still interesting toward that finish line. Hey, thanks for the call. We will take a break more to come. More of your phone calls today five to four, two, seven, two, eight five. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Gyco could already save you. So what are you waiting for your baby to let you sleep in? Let. Sleep another half hour. Thanks Sweetheart. And you'll change yourself to own. There's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October. Seventh limitations apply visit. GEICO DOT COM for details? We welcome you back. Glad you're all here and so much to do on what is going to be one of the busier days of the year. Let's get some calls going and Greg is in Ohio hello. Greg thanks great to have you on. Hey Paul. How's it going? Very well, I I think sports are done for the year. I, mean even the ones that are open planning dope and I I. I think they're all cooked. I mean I mean. This is just out of control. Every day it's getting worse and worse I don't think Major League baseball is going to be able to open as they plan or the NBA and the bubble is to be open and I mean college football unfortunately I mean I'm a big Fan Fan of college football, but college football I think gone. Well I will say this Greg. I think of all the things that are being contemplated college. Football is the most challenging and I think that's pretty obvious and. you know they? They don't have one hundred and fifty million dollars like the NBA to create a bubble. Yeah, that's that's true. That's where they let me back up. They they do have. But it's collective. It's not It's spread out among. One, hundred or so schools, but anyway I mean I. I'm to the point now where? I'm glad that we finally at a point where some decisions are being made, and we're not being sold hope every day. I think what you heard from Greg Sankey and really many others. We're starting to get a much needed dose of reality, and and how these? Conferences deal with it is going to be. Fascinating to watch? Oh Yeah I. I mean I'm disappointed, but I mean from the help. From the health standpoint I'd I don't think you can play car. I mean it's just too dangerous and too risky to have kids black. Well. I mean the one thing I would say and again this. We're still pretty early on, but. Of the many young people that have been sick I have not heard This is purely football standpoint. I've not heard too many of them. If any who have been particularly sick. Hey, thank you for the call. I really do appreciate it and Let's continue. More calls from Chris is in New Orleans aicraft. On volleyball either. Oh I just. Bought some saint actually the first time we've actually gone through this. Is! What we do something like this. I mean along with college football shut. Down Baghdad. I'm sure they didn't play that when they have pandemic of nineteen eleven. You know they pandemic came into nineteen eighteen and we were. We were also in the middle of or toward the end of World War One so I mean I I would think is. Difficult comparison although some college football was played back then. Right. What are you? What is your point? A. Baseline something we can look back at his. He's you know exactly what they did back then. They didn't have the technology. They've done, but. You know they kinda went through. That's. Right and a lot of people died i. mean the situation is a little bit different today. Yeah I I'm not sure I I? Really I think it's interesting to go back in history, but. Hundred hundred and three years is a little bit beyond My reach Mike is up next in Macon. Georgia Hey Mike. Hi, Paul, how you doing I'm well, thank you. Good Paul. We're going to play you. Think would not gonNA play. I mean just like just just tell me what you think. I'm pretty pessimistic right now. Okay well. That's the way I feel too and like. It's depressing I mean it really is I mean it's. It's hard to i. mean the only thing we got is golf on the weekend and. Anyway. It's tough, but. I think they did play back in during the Spanish fully, but the situation now is. is a little bit different. I I I'm not I'm not saying it's impossible for the season to begin right now, but there are so many things working against it, and what happens is when you have this type. When the negativity combines or combust, it really puts pressure pressures on leaders, and and right now there are so many things working against them. Well Yeah, you're right and like when you're sitting here and I know I'm being optimistic I. Mean Like I'm a dog. Band of course I'm optimistic and Alabama pizzas every damn year, but I still. Won't to come true and to happen and it just it just scares me going to happen in the more and more go along while listen to you I just. I just don't think it's going to happen. Yeah I can tell you right now. The I talked to. Head coach the over the weekend, and he didn't think so either there are. Predictions don't matter anymore. They really don't I'm almost exhausted and in trying to offer I mean I always ever tried to do on this program is to talk to people that do have more knowledge than we do and I. Think Right now Some of them are leading US down the wrong road, but on the other hand. All we can do. Thirteenth I mean we're not. In a position where decision has to be made yet. Right well. Yeah, boy, we're close to it. we're we're. We're really close. I follow free. Kick off I. Haven't talked to you on time still, watch. Love you? You're a great man and you had a big influence on my life. Thank you very much really good to hear from you. Dawn is up next to hey don. Hey. either. You doing I'm doing well. Thank you very much. My name is drawn actually Dra Uga. Bowen. was. I wonder frankly. Oakley's providing mass face shields for mouth shields for the NFL players I was wondering if if double A. considered that, because even if they if we do play games, and we don't have people in the stands, or we have social distancing. You're still lined up with on scrimmage knicks to other other athletes in, and that's the. That's the NFL saying how they're GONNA protect their. Consider doing that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is going on but I don't think it's only the games that are of concern it's. It's The locker room getting two games just. Existing but again these are. These are for more people. Than US drawn. Thank you great to have you on the show. RC IS UP NEXT RC right ahead. Hey Paul Lawrie, buddy. I'm doing well, thank you. Well I just wanted to share a couple of points here number one. The well being of our students is first and foremost, the most important any educational institution rented. He has to undertake a grasp. The very beginning, there was an old term called Locus Parentis, which means in place of Parrot. When you're looking at college football. Yes, they're young adults. the the key phrases young. We cannot jeopardize Oh, where their wellbeing based on. Our love and passion for what dictates the entire fall, basically most of the year for some of us, have the lies. In College football, we've gotta make sure these kids. You're fine, and is that just football player? It's all athletes. It's all student athletes from college. To High School, when you look at grown men that are in their mid twenty s early twenty that are getting paid. They've got a choice. They don't have to play. And I think we keep forgetting that these these kids man it. It's their wellbeing. What happens with kid gets sick. And Dies Paul. What happens then? Well I'll tell you what I think. That is the greatest concern of all these people. Because then it. It goes from conversation to To a nightmare. And, that's what we're waiting. We're living a nightmare. One hundred thirty five thousand people have passed away. And let me tell you we're going to have a lot more. And we don't know those who have passed away that it hasn't been attributed to this virus, which we don't how people can get very creative worth reporting statistics, certain states like this state, but the bottom line is. We need to go ahead and grasp what center? which is our safety and wellbeing and do whatever it takes? This isn't a party thing. It's not a political thing. This is humanitarian concept interesting that you bring that up I I had I had somebody in intercollegiate athletics. Say to me over the weekend if it wasn't for the money and I know all these administrators talk about the health and wellbeing of everyone, but if it wasn't for the money, would this have already been shut down? No. Doubt it would have been done a long time ago. and. That's across the board. my last thing I wanted to share with you Paul and again I I I rarely call in I think it's the second time, and all these years I've talked, but I like to say even though you're not a pro Um guy. That's okay, I have very vantage point viewpoints and I and I love to offer but. My next thing is. The result of Pop Up at the top of the. Virus this beast. What I see is it's going to be the catalyst. For the top programme to the top sixty schools to break away from the NC two A. and create their at their own entity. That's coming Paul sooner than we think my friend. You'll be well God. Bless thank you very much. Really appreciate. I totally agree with you on that. We are heading to a break Patrick Ruby joining us next talking about the NCWA. What do they offer? Do they offer anything? We'll talk to Patrick right after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum. Show podcast. GEICO gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven, which means that Geico is always there for you. If only everyone was always there for you, like your mom when you fill out really really important paperwork on the first day of a new job name, check birthday, social security thing. Hey, mom, what is my social security number? Mom Mom, mom. Zero zero one seven Gemini. ASHTEC done GEICO. Always therefore you savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Hello. This is your apartment I need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters car insurance with Geico? We could save money and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day I need to catch up on my soaps. GYCO for bundling made easy GEICO DOT com today. We ought to be back certainly a busy busy day as the age of the yesterday. She currently meeting the Patriot League has crap football for the fall. We're trying to figure it all out and really delighted the Patrick Ruby joining us. Certainly someone who really is worth following in this world of of sports and of all sports, and just recently written a piece called. The coronavirus shows the NCWA isn't built to protect. Athletes Patrick. Thanks for being. We're really appreciate it and. Feel like I'M A lot of us are not in our head as I as I. Read the headline to your story as you detail in there this great organization that we all want to believe him. seems to be letting us all down good afternoon. At least from the college. Perspective kind of take us through where we are right now and what's ahead. Look thanks for having me I mean we're all right now. College Football It's just an IT's. It's kind of an estate of of chaos. Fusion rotavirus the look. This is extremely difficult disease for everyone in society to wrap their arms around. We're not doing a great job collectively. We're not doing a great job at the federal government with our state governments everywhere real struggling right so I don't want to single out college football, but it is very interesting how he struggles in college football. Really reflect these larger struggle with one is. The big failures see one of the problems that you see is at the NCAA level. There is not strong central leadership. There is nobody at the top saying. This is what we're GonNa do this is how we're to deal with. These are the rules. To follow these rules ridden or force these rules to try to make things as safe as possible breathing, just trying to make decisions about whether we're gonNA play, or not or how we gonNA play as you see, the of all the conferences are basic, and the schools are just kind of on the road, trying to figure it out on the fly dot, not the best way to deal with communicable disease in pandemic. And Patrick I it seems like I've said I've said it maybe incorrectly that the NCAA has nothing to do with this i. mean they do have some governess over over inter collegiate athletics. And they. They have a seat at the table. Although you really can't see it. Unless you unless you're searching how would you describe their role in this? I mean roll has been incredibly hands off allows they say are again. It's like a little way how the federal government has just told the states do whatever you're. GonNa do. We're not going to use. Our power could use the CDC and all these resources. Centralized approach and again it doesn't. It doesn't work great when you're dealing with the viruses and I. Think was so frustrated with the MCS is doing this is not. This is what they do in general with health and safety. This is what they've done with the concussions problem for so many years up till today. This is what they've done with workouts in college football, they were killing like to players the year in the off season. Just these crazy stupid unnecessary workout. That'd be players from way too often. The NCAA has the ability to make rules to govern this to make things safer. But it doesn't chooses not to. It makes guidelines, but it has been some very good recommendations for what schools the Congress should do to try to limit corona virus spread, just like it does concussions or with these workouts. Unlike when it comes to things like amateur. Athletes and get paid, or it doesn't make actual rules and I think all of us know. If you just have guidelines you don't have if you just have suggestions and you have no consequences. People tend to go off in their own way. They tend to do the wrong thing. And even if wall meaning, they tend to make mistakes. As you as you look over, and I'm really interested in the whole sports landscape, because I, it just seems like with everything in front of college football in the NFL. Some of this may take care of itself. It may not but. As you look at what's opening, especially? NBA, MLB Major. League baseball predating. The NFL and college I mean. What do you see out there right now? I mean right now. It looks like it looks like we're failing. You know it looks like the effort to and look. There's some sports that are sort of playing and having some success I guess at least getting people onto the field option actually play games, but it's really difficult. We're seeing in every sport. You're getting positive tests. You're getting core genes or getting outbreaks. Outbreaks getting people having to remove themselves from play We've been really lucky. Knock on wood so far. We haven't seen any athletes with like they try to be serious illness right I mean athletes tend to be younger so physically. It's much less likely. They're GONNA oh. That's what they can, and they also might get long-term effects. We don't know a ton of this. And, we're really lucky. We haven't seen it. Necessarily spread to older coaches and administrative people and all, and all the people that are in the higher risk groups but I think as more sports. Try to do this on survivor going to go up and I think Paul the other. Really important thing to remember here is as much as these sports are trying to create these bubbles to isolate themselves from the virus, and from the world around them. That is surging violence. As we're seeing. That's almost impossible move. Out College. Football were just players coming back to campus to work out. You are getting sick and they're getting sick. Even when their schools have individually adopted good health protocols. And I I hear as you were saying what you say did a minute ago about the NC Double A. Having. Elisa faire attitude just like the federal government I story from La where California counties. All California counties have now been closed some indoor sectors. Including including gyms, places of worship, but It feels like we're back in March again, doesn't it? Yeah, that's one of the things. like I said I I as much as I kind of take the path care some of these schools the passing. He can rightfully ask the question. What are we doing in college sports in Sports in general show using try. It's going to be so much harder for these sports even if they are trying very hard. To do this successfully. When the rest of US society also falling on our face took for lack of a better term. We have not controlled this virus at all. We tried done what you did some stuff, but it was so loud hawks. It was late. It wasn't coordinated. All the mistakes are well documented. You can put your finger at the at the president. Finger government. You can put your finger at state governors, you finger ourselves in the mirror like we all bear some responsibility here, but compared to other countries where they have gotten a hold on this. We haven't it and we are now paying the price and you're right like that's that you didn't see that in sports to. Patrick I know you, you you you. You study these things you you. You you analyze. What you said so interesting and I know there's no easy answer But why do you think we are like this? Because you know even today, the SEC put out a video. You know, wear a mask and showed every every athletic every head football coach wearing a mask I mean. We're it's thirteenth. This thing started more than someone ago. I saw that video I I thought was like this is great. My second thought this would have been so much better a long time ago on and I think you know. There's so many factors lie. I mean I think some of it is. Most of us have never or something like this mean you don't have any experience or something. It's almost hard to imagine how docking get I think we have a hard time in this country of thinking about serve the things that we all share to together versus thinking of ourselves as all being personally responsible for what we do. Viruses don't really work that way. You know you can take every precaution, and I can take none, but I'm not just creating risk for myself. I'm creating risk for you and everyone else around me. That's difficult for Americans. It doesn't really go with our national sort of way. We see things. And I also think with sports. We just love the sports so much worse, especially, college football especially in the SEC. I mean it's a place where this is such a tradition. It's such a way of life. It's such a thing that happens at a certain time every year on the calendar. That it's really hard to think about it. Being massively destructive the way it is right now and I think honestly we're seeing ideally. The Patriot League canceled their seasons or suspend them till the spring. I know that the SEC of meeting right now I know the PAC ten in a pack twelve and the big ten are talking about just play conference only season I really think it's moving towards. This might not be possible this fall, and it's not just the sport piece of college sports gotTa look at the campus as a whole. The University of presidential looking at the situation. They're trying to save not just their sports revenue. They're trying to save their whole school revenue for the fall, but they're also realizing. We may not be able to keep the safe enough to really do this. The Patrick Finally in. I mean I know you're you're an analyst and you you? Politics is something that we all try to me if we possibly can, but. But but so politicized It's hard to have a conversation with anyone. About virus, without somebody, being extremely over here or to the other side, and and it's it's it's. It's baffling to me I. Don't know about you. It's it's really I mean on one hand look, it's really south link to me because a virus doesn't care about politics, you know public health matters don't really care about politics, but but as they seem you know the way the spires affecting us, not just individually, not just people's health, but society as a whole that's into sports gets an economic gets into everything. It affects all the things that are normally kind of political, and so I'm not surprised. It's gone this way, but. We've probably have to find a way to be politicized the public health piece of this virus so that we can all down fan page, because whether or not our president or a federal government or governor, or go to lead us whether or not in college sports. The SEC messed up up and try to lead. We. Do have to find a way to work together. The only way to try to get this virus contained is for everybody to be working together and that's really were. Like, college sports is a good example. Not Getting done right now. Really appreciate you coming on Patrick Ruby Be well. Thanks so much hope we can get you back soon. Any time that. You gotTA, really really sound conversation. I loved his line in the virus doesn't Care No. The virus does not care. We'll take a break mortar com including Greg Sankey later in the program to listening to Paul Finebaum show podcast. Right now get five quarts of NAPA full synthetic motor, oil plus platinum oil filter for just twenty, two, ninety eight. 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Conference Tournament College Basketball Betting Tips with Ralph Michaels March 2, 2020

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Conference Tournament College Basketball Betting Tips with Ralph Michaels March 2, 2020

"With that we transition over the college basketball side of things and bring on professional eighty. Get but Ralph Michaels from wagertalk DOT com today man. Doing Great Adamos great to see out here in Vegas. You know. It's nice to see the hype that your baseball guides getting. And the respect you get from the media people out here it. It really is a A nod to the hard work and the dedication you put into it. I definitely appreciate that great to see you last week as well and obviously this isn't kyle hundred. Kyle Hunter out sick here on today's show. But we bring Ralph back great to get him back on the show. It's been a little while here. We're GONNA talk about some of the conference tournaments that start here this week. Some of the conference tournament betting strategies things of that sort rough. I guess we'll start with that because the postseason begins on Tuesday night Atlantic Sun Big South Horizon League and the Patriot League. What's different about betting? These conferences tournament games as opposed to betting regular season games. While I think you're gonNA find that I like betting big dogs especially early those teams that have had losing streaks going into the conference tournaments because number one. It's a restart of the season for them number two. You have to remember that. These teams are playing back to back to back days off very often. And if you get that big lead. Are you resting pooling your starters? Are you playing your bench? Are you going deeper and deeper your bench to get some more depth moving forward so the mindset is quite a bit different handicapping with the and for those for those underdogs? They continue to give one hundred percent effort to the final buzzer. So again I mean this is a one shot deal for a lot of these teams here especially these early conference tournaments the on big south Patriot Horizon Ohio Valley Northeast. The West Coast is not going to be a one bid league this year neither or the Missouri Valley will be a one bid league as well so yeah one shot here in a lot of these early conference tournaments. So Do you feel. Like you can still handicapped motivation. Even though there's only one bid available I don't think you're handicapping completely different when you have conference tournaments and when you have the NCAA tournament. I think you're not handicapping motivation. That's quite a bit different in the where I think. Motivation in the early Games is one of the most important factors handicapping handicapping some of those smaller conferences for teams. That are are disappointed in the tournament. They're in all right. So let's look at some of these conferences tournament specifically and start with the Atlantic Sun Tournament. And unfortunately here the sports books pretty slow to react here on Monday morning. We don't have odds for most of these you'll book I've got odds for is the circuit for the Horizon League tournament. Don't have anything other than that. So we'll try to do the best. We can't here with some strategy and some of the things that we're looking at here but in the ace son. Liberty is your top seed. You're overwhelming tournament favourite. Once we get numbers posted everywhere even though liberty in north Florida tied with identical thirteen and three records and North Florida. In fact actually beat. Liberty wants out of their two meetings but this looks like it's liberties tournament to lose and also to this a different handicapping strategy with these tournaments because all of these games are at campus sites. You have to factor homecourt advantage into the equation and I think homecourt advantage for the tournaments is even bigger than in the regular season. Now even though you're having to give some of your seats up and and some of the conferences you know you have to give seats to each of the schools. I think there's the familiarity. The added Edge. The the crowd be at not as large as a regular crowd. But you know when when you're playing these back to backs you have to remember college. Kids are accustomed to this. They're they're going on the road and they're leaving that night or they're leaving first thing in the morning now. These kids are staying in a different setting. It's it's the tournament typesetting that some of them played in November. But it's not a tournament typesetting because you're prepping for those next next team. So I actually give the coaches a little bit of a higher edge than I do when I have my coaching ratings and I give the home-court edge for those teams having a little higher as well that makes it a whole lot of sense here and again. I mean liberty last year one this conference tournament and in fact if you remember. They went on the road to lipscomb and one this conference sermon. That was a very very good lipscomb team. Last year on the two thousand eighteen team was also very good this year. Lipscomb draws the three seed because they had had a higher net rating than Stetson. That's in one of the other teams. That beat liberty here over the course of the season and Lipscomb just did it in the regular season finale but Ralph looked up and down this conference here. Is there any way you could look at anybody other than liberty to win this thing? Yeah again I am not. I am not giving it to liberty because I do like this North Florida squad you know you. Have you have one of the most efficient offenses in the country? Their problem is defense but a lot of times you can. You can live by the defense. I liked the way they finished going down the stretch. Winning eight of their last nine. You look at the LIPSCOMB game. They played on the road. They lost eighty five to seventy three and it was the game that they shot very poorly one of their were shooting games. So in the second meeting in the second beating when they've played liberty They they beat liberty at home. Seventy one seventy then they lose by five. I give North Florida shot. And a Lotta Times Adam. I think it's actually good to talk about. Play these Games through in your head before you see the odds because even handicapping for thirty five years. There's Times you look at the odds. And that's ways your opinions on these games who you really think might be able to win so You know I do like going through these it just like much like I do bowl games. I like going through all the bowl games. Making my lines before they come out because then you don't have that misconception or or again think this team has this big favourite. Do I really think this dog has a live shot? And there are some other teams. That will talk about here a little bit with some of these smaller conference tournaments that fall into this same boat but it seemed like North Florida as you mentioned very good offensively not good defensively at all. You're going to have a lot of teams like trying to figure out of my head. But you're GONNA have a lot of teams here that you know rate very well defensively but not as well offensively. Na Conference Tournament Tournament format like this. Are you kind of leaning towards the offense over the defense or vice versa? I usually lean defense. But if I'm GONNA take an north Florida's not a flyer by any means they're going to be the second favorite but I like taking teams. That are three point heavy and they shut thirty eight percent from three point a league best and you know. I'm going to go back. And people if people remember back in December or the end of November when Michigan got hot and Beacon Zag and went through their run. What happened they got on fire from three and North Florida? I liked those teams tournament. That can shoot a three well can win on the road and has the ability to get hot from three point. Land all right so we take a look at another conference tournament here. This is another very very small conference the Big South Conference tournament this one also starts on Tuesday night. The bottom six seeds play. They all play on campus sites. You've got high point at USC upstate Campbell at UNC Ashville Presbyterian at Charleston southern Thursday. The set of the quarter-finals begin. Those are all held at Radford's campus. Because they are the number one seed. Same thing with the semifinals in the championship. Game on Sunday March eighth played at the home site of the highest seed which if Radford wines upholding up. That's where the game would be played if not it could very well be in. Rock Hill South Carolina at winthrop. Something like that but Radford and winthrop tied with fifteen and three records way to go to the second tiebreaker for Radford to be the number one seed winthrop is the number to here and those are the two best teams in this conference but Gardner Webb kind of lurking Campbell. Sort of looking after that then. A bunch of bottom fifty caliber teams year in the big south so as sort of handicap through this tournament. Ralph your who do you kind of have your eye on this team to win this thing. Well having the Home Ed j as I just said I I give the edge so I expect Radford to win this but you know my dark horse would be Gardner Webb. You know you lost. Who was the preseason player of the year for Peres for Multiple Games if he can come back and and can get healthy and and start playing on his status. I haven't I haven't been able to get an update on them but You know they're they're certainly a team that. I look at and and was leaning forward. You know the other the other team down the stretch you know Longwood Longwood finished well. They're they're the best defensive team and as I said there's certain times I like offense with the three but if Longwood could get any type of shooting you know that that is a team that finished seven and three down the stretch the last ten games and you know one thing I I wanna point out at him you and I talk about bar tour vic dot com often and when I get into these tournaments couple things I look at is I go in and if you go into bar tour you can put a start date on the top so I go back and I look at what. These teams did their last ten games. I go back to the end of January. Punch Ma'am you see their offensive and defensive efficiencies and then I also got a stat Fox. Because they're the easiest to pull down and pull down all the road stats so you look at the teams did on the road offensively and defensively point per game and rebounds and those are two things. I think are very vital. When you're breaking these conferences information. Wise to have it at at your fingertips. Yeah I agree I mean part is great especially because you kind of get those trend lines with some of the visuals that he has there. And you look at Gardner Webb here. They've won six. In the last seven they beat winthrop at home. They beat Radford on the road in a game that Radford. You'll I mean look. This was a team going for the number one seed there on Saturday and maybe they already had it locked up. I'd have to go back and double check that. But so Gardner. Webb beat those two teams the top two seeds here over the last month or so went to triple overtime in a four point loss at winthrop and that was three days after losing it home by three to Radford. So Gardner Webb Split. The meetings with the top two seeds and the losses were nothing to scoff at either and this of course a Garner team that won this conference tournament last year with the same head coach in Tim Craft and last year. There were a team in the regular season and conference play or ten in Eight I believe actually this year. There were eleven and seven. So Gardner Webb not a bad bet. Here obviously WanNa see what this price looks like when the odds come out but that may be one that you want to keep an eye on their in the big south even though a lot of people will say it will likely come down to read Radford and winthrop and it could but Gardner Webb a team with some upside. They're coming out of that. Three C line real quick. I want to circle back to the Atlantic Sun Conference because circus. Sports actually did post those as son conference tournament odd sear. Liberty is bias three fifty north Florida plus four twenty-five Lipscomb plus twenty two hundred North Alabama fifty to one simply Jacksonville then on down from their celebrity minus three fifty here with North Florida. Plus four twenty five. And if I gotTA SAY. I don't even know if liberties highest minus three fifty in a potential championship game against North Florida. I agree with that. I think there's certainly value there with with North Florida. North North Florida's a team with twenty wins on the season. I you know they have. They have one goto player. Qadeer Rosa is is a senior that that can that can light it up for him. I you know you have when you have a senior point guard. Who is your best player. I I completely think there's value with the ospreys are so let's go to the Horizon League here. We've got right. State the minus one ten favorite out at circuit that was as of yesterday Northern Kentucky Plus Two Twenty Green Bay ten to one Illinois Chicago. Eleven to one. Nobody else in this conference really has a great chance. Everybody else thirty five to one or higher but when we look at the horizon a couple of interesting differences for this season. The first is that they're going to reseed in the first and second round or in the second round so what that's going to do potentially is take away a long shot getting to the finals because the last two years we've seen longshots get to the finals in the Horizon League tournament last year or two years ago we saw Cleveland State. Get there as an eight seed. They lost the right state 2017. Milwaukee made the finals as a ten seed so the Horizon League really trying to make a concerted effort here to put their best foot forward get one of their two best teams into the conference tournament. The second interesting wrinkle here and Ralph. We could talk about this. For A COUPLE OF MINUTES. Is that the the first round games are at campus sites. The quarterfinal games are at campus sites. But the semifinal games and the championship Games Indiana Farmers Calcium. This is the home floor of. Up Y who is the bottom seed in this conference but when you get late these conference tournaments here. These are sites that these teams generally don't play at too often that can have a big impact on shooting numbers. Totals and things like that. It does but you know I actually. I love the way the Horizon League does it and give their one and two a double by you know. They're the number. Three team gets a single by so you know the three teams GonNa play the next highest and the day too. So you know all you have to do is if you're right state or your northern Kentucky is win two games and you know the question's GonNa come up. Oh it's hard to beat a team three times and I you know. I certainly think that right state in northern Kentucky the way it's set up we'll get there. Well you know for those. That didn't pay attention on the final day of the regular season right state was playing for the title against Northern Kentucky. Went into Northern Kentucky. Wins that game sixty four sixty two so I had to go to the database and I pulled out what teams do losing. Do An opponent twice if they have twenty or more wins Northern Kentucky has twenty one wins on the season so you have a quality team that has dropped both of the first two meetings to an opponent going all the way back to two thousand and ten. The listen to the average line is only two point seven in the situation. Which you expect your twenty-one team you have double revenge two point seven is the average line and you're only sixty five and ninety one straight up forty one point seven percent against the spread your seventy four seventy nine and three forty eight point four percent. So it's GonNa come up often in these conference tournaments about. It's tough to beat a team three times. Well it's not if you're the better team you know. It's tough to upset a team three times. That's certainly one thing but the beat a team three times teams do at fifty eight point three percent of the time. I think something. That's really interesting about this conference tournament. And maybe this is the reason. Why Right State has had some success against Kentucky massive pace war between right state and Northern Kentucky? Right state you know kind of a top thirty five team in Tempo Northern Kentucky of bottom fifty team and tempo and that will be interesting because the way that this is currently set up. It looks like you probably end up seeing northern Kentucky. Play Green Bay on Monday. Green Bay also likes to push the tempo also likes to push the pace so on one hand you can say Okay Northern Kentucky will have just played a game and a higher tempo. They're going to be more prepared for it. Taking on Wright state in a potential championship game or on the flip side they may play to very UPTEMPO Games back to back. That's not the nurses style. There are not a great three point shooting team. That could really work to their detriment. Here I kind of like right state even Chaki play minus one ten because like you said they got a win two games and even if they draw Illinois Chicago. Who is maybe the best defensive team in this conference? I still think they're draws a little bit easier. Ya again. I I have just slightly higher as far as defense goes right states right there as well but I completely agree with you. Green Bay is number eight and temple. As far as Ken Palm Ratings Go An- and right state is number thirty two for for these kids to be running up and down that court back to back nights the way they are when they're not accustomed to it. I think that would be a clear play for me where I can see a live betting situation. Where if the Games tied at the half I would clearly be on right state or even afraid states down a few as long as right state was able to control the tempo and get enough. Get enough shots off. Then I'd be looking to play right state in the second half. Well that's another excellent talking point here. I mean obviously you know with clients. You can't necessarily sell them. Second half plays. It's just such a small window but personally with bedding your bankroll these conference. Tournaments are a unique animal. Because as we've said you play back to backs or you play three games in five days depending on how the conference German is set up. Live betting second-half betting tons of opportunities for that here at this time of the year. Yeah and after member. Northern Kentucky has three sophomores in their starting lineup including a point guard. So you have a situation. Where is it surprising that you know down the stretch they went? What twelve and three losses to write state top three Defense Illinois Chicago at home top three defense right stated home top three defense so I think when you're playing those tougher defenses and you have that sophomore? Yeah Bryson Lankans played a lot and he started most of this year but he still is a first year starter. He didn't play at all last year. You know he red shirted so know I look at it and I think there's value with Wright state at at minus one ten because of the because of the only having to play the two games and just the better team the best player on the court. No question and the better coach. You know you have to remember that Northern Kentucky is you know is a first year under Darrin Horn. He stayed home. Obviously he was an assistant there. As as the as the coach from last year John Brannon went to Cincinnati. But you have a first year head coach coaching his first tournament. I think that's a negative as well all right so another conference tournament that starts on Tuesday. Here we've got four of them to talk about the ace on the big south the horizon. Now we talk about the Patriot league this obviously going to be a one bid league but you know what we don't have any odds for this conference tournament but it does look very very interesting because usually we think. Patriot league we think Bucknell. They're not very good this year. In fact it's been kind of a struggle for them a little bit here of late. Colgate is the number one seed American and be tied with twelve and six conference records. American gets the two CD tiebreakers. So beat you. Is it three seat here? Army and Lafayette tied at and eight but army won both head to head meetings. They're the four seed all of these games on campus sites. This is not a conference tournament that this is a pretty decent conference though where a lot of these teams are pretty interchangeable out of these teams grade. Pretty equally VIC. Maybe we've got some value on somebody that's not the number one seed colgate. I mean you're looking at you know the top team. There was no one that dominated down the stretch as you said looking back at the last ten games American colgate and Boston University were all seven and three loyal Maryland. Lafayette Army were all. Six and four. Lehigh was five and five. So you know you add into that situation. The home-court Edge. I it's GONNA be. It's going to be big and I look at the best defensive team. Best Defensive Team is American no question. The best offensive team is going to be Boston. I think Boston you has has a shot. The way the way he has he has finished played. Your normal tough schedule down the stretch. You look at how they finished. And they're like nine and three their last twelve. They lost a colgate by sixteen. That was a game that just got away from Lafayette. A two point loss Lee high in overtime loss by two points. They've been in every game and a team that I have circled that I'll look at. Don't also get to the window with him but I certainly may be on them once or twice betting wise one of all throw out here is actually Lafayette and Lafayette is going to be a team where we talked about betting future. We'll also talk about money line rollovers and I think the money line rollover more often than not going to be a better course of action for you. Because you're going to get a much bigger price then that initial futures investment and also to the way you hedge your money. Line Rollover is this simply stopped betting it if you bet a future and that team gets the championship game while you probably have to invest more money on the other side to make your hedge. Lafayette is the Five C. They are on the road at army. That's going to be a pick em type of situation there but this Lafayette team. They beat Boston University. They lost a B. You buy a point. They've played very very well against colgate. They had they. They actually beat colgate twice in the regular season. Lafayette is very inconsistent. Though they've played up to the superior competition down to the inferior competition so there is some worrying that but that's why you take this money line rollover price where if they beat army your roll that over and underdog role against Colgate if they beat colgate you roll that over into an underdog role. It's probably American or you with the money. Line Rollover you look for upside you look for ceiling for a team that can go out there and score you. Some of these big upsets Lafayette's done it already over the course of the conference play season. That's one that I'm looking at here. As far as this conference goes I think probably colgate or be you ultimately wins it but Lafayette is kind of your risk reward type of play. Well you you know. You're you're looking at a team in Lafayette that you know has as a sophomore point guard and and then a lot of leadership in the middle. And you've got multiple guys that can score You're a team that shoots free throws very well. You shoot twos well. You don't shoot three wells but that's fine and two losses. A two losses is the most. You've had him back to back games all year. So can't can't argue with that play at all so we go to Wednesday here. We've got three conference tournaments getting underway. We won't talk about the North Eastern Conference Alva- preview actually of all of these thirty two conference tournaments over at Bang the book Dot Com. But let's take a look the mountain West Conference where we've got a lot more household names conferences. A lot of people are going to know bit better than some of those low major leagues. I'm astonished that it's wet starts on Wednesday and we don't have any odds out for it yet but what we do know for sure. Ralph is that -Sego state will be the clearcut favorite here. They will and you know. We talked about San Diego State a lot during the end of the regular season and I clearly thought it would help them to lose a game. I. I didn't think it was a positive thing to have an undefeated season. I didn't think it was a positive thing to have that win. Streak to try to carry over so we saw them lose to. Unlv no-one playing better ball in the country right now then. Unlv down the stretch. Just amazing losing their bigs and go into small ball and what they've done but you know now. Unlv of course host this tournament as they always do. But you know you saw San Diego State lose to UNLV struggle mightily to Colorado state and then struggled mightily in the first half against Nevada and then Malachi. Flynn takes over scores. I think thirty five in that game they pull away the second half against Nevada and now I think they're back. You know this. This is the team that yes you want to win your tournament. And it's a situation. Where if you were undefeated at this point and this is a little off topic but if you were undefeated. I wouldn't want to win my tournament and be undefeated that would just be the mindset. I have the other difference between this tournament and next week is if you are playing physical teams back to back to back to back games and you know you're in the tournament. I don't know if winning the tournament is that much of a priority for you. Obviously this week it's different. I'm talking next week when we look at some of those other tournaments. And let's say you're the big ten and you're one of the top two seeds and you have to play Wisconsin and Michigan State and purdue and you're GONNA get banged up three straight days hell. I'd rather losing around to take those extra days rest. Still be a three seed and be happy without having banged up with that said though now they have the entire week of rest having lost to. Unlv I think how helps them? Cav have revenge if they face them again Having you know having beaten. Unlv here in this setting gives them gives them momentum. I would not bet against San Diego state in this tournament but again you were talking about a prohibitive favorite and you know you're GONNA be playing air force or Fresno no problem then so you very well could have a second round game against UNLV. I like Utah. State Utah State to get to the finals. I think Utah states playing as well as anyone and if I can get Utah State Bob. Looking ahead to the finals and obviously it matters. You know how well you're playing but if I can get UTAH. State plus five or more down the stretch. I'd be happy to take them in the finals against San Diego State and if I'm getting Utah State if I think they're going to be a five point dog in the finals and a significant favourite in the other games you know if I could get plus two fifty as far as the tournament goes then. I'd be looking at them. Yeah I think so too. I mean you got four games in four days here for the teams at the plough Wednesday. Those are the six through eleven seeds as you mentioned this one at the Thomas and mack out in Nevada. Unlv with that homecourt advantage but obviously these fan bases travel. Because you know why wouldn't you WanNa go to Las Vegas at this time of the year? The thing that's interesting Cindy state here since two thousand nine. They've been in the finals. This conference tournament nine times. They are only three and six straight up in those nine games so this is a team that makes a good tournament. Run doesn't always finish it off. We'll see if they're able to do it here. I agree with you on Utah State because one of the things you're going to find in these conference tournaments teams that had really high expectations and fell well short of them. They are supremely motivated to go out there and try and get that bid back that they feel like they lost Utah State. Is that team to me. They are the most dangerous team in this conference tournament. We'll see what the odds are like here. Once that one rolls around rough one more conference tornado touch with you here on this show. That is the Ohio Valley Conference Tournament. This is at the Ford Center in Evansville Indiana. The top eight teams qualify for this one Belmont. Your number one seed Murray State your number two seed Austin P. or number three seed Eastern Kentucky. The four seed with twelve and six in conference play but very very top heavy conference tournament here with. Belmont Murray State and then Austin piece so we don't have odds for this one out yet but how will you kinda stack ranking those three teams? I mean you want to talk about. Three teams. Battled out the entire year between. I mean if you guys didn't follow the valley between Belmont Murray State and Austin pay I Murray States wanted what three straight years now and you know again you have. Belmont with a first year head coach and I see Murray State to me as the team that I am going to bet. If if comes favored I am definitely taking Murray state in the number two spot you have you know when you're all conference all conference teams are basically going to be Belmont. Murray State in Austin. Pay Your top five guys in the conference you got multiple players with. Belmont with Murphy and Museum Ski and Murray State. Of Course Kevin. Brown and K Jay Williams are are just dynamite. I I'm going to go with the racers to win to win for a to win for a fourth straight time and I normally don't like taking teams with freshmen guards. And you know they have. They have Carter and Smith Freshman at the playoffs and and split the point but you know in in thirty games in. You're not really a freshman Even in their losses to me they held serve at home. That's what you do a good. A very good team wins at home. You lose on the road and you lose close games a seven point loss to Belmont. Nothing wrong with that. A three point lost in pay. Nothing wrong with that and three star three point loss to Eastern Illinois back on February twentieth so Murray State for me and then you know depending how far I might take a flyer on eastern Kentucky Again. Just because their uniqueness of being one of the fastest pace teams the hectic nece they bring you know the top the top ten in the country as far as tempo goes the only other fast team. There's only two teams in the top ninety with tempo in the Ohio Valley Belmont and Eastern Kentucky. So it sets those two apart. But I'm GonNa go with the Best Defense Murray state and with the been there done that and have one. I believe three straight make four straight. This one would be the third straight for them Jacksonville. State One and twenty seventy state team in two thousand seventeen only with eight and conference play so a rare down year for the racers. They have won back-to-back year though as their third straight one this year. What's interesting about this conference again? The double by four the top two seeds so Belmont and Murray state each only have to win. Two Games Austin P. has to play Thursday night then they'd likely run into Murray State if they win that game so that makes it really tough for Austin and again. They're one of those money line rollover kid. It's where the end are going to be a big favourite in the quarter final game but there'll be a dog to Murray state and they'll be a dog to Belmont in all likelihood here so maybe in Austin P. moneyline rollover going to be a better option than the street futures price but should be a good one there in Evansville. It was a good one on today's segment with Ralph michaels professional handicapper over at wagertalk dot com rough. Great to get you back on the show here man. What's going on over at the website right now? Well it's a nine dollar Monday. Every every packages only nine dollars and Tuesday's a great way for you to try capper. 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Episode 83 Jonathan Downey (JD)  Hospitality Union

Humans of Hospitality

50:43 min | 5 months ago

Episode 83 Jonathan Downey (JD) Hospitality Union

"Welcome to the humans of hospitality outcast with me Mark Crib and Just pretty sure intro to this one. I've just had a catch up with JD. Jonathan Downey from Hospital Eighty Union and London Union so J. D.'S. The Guy Behind Milk and Honey Street Feast Diner Rama at all sorts of amazing venues up in London and wanted to have a quick catch up with him. He's also been sort of been the voice. I suppose of some of the independent hospitality sector in the mouse. Couple OF MONTHS FROM SETTING UP HIS WHATSAPP GROUP. That became a very big. What's up group and now has a website and he's doing all sorts of stuff to help represent the views of independent hospitality government and as be behind specifically I guess national timeout. So this idea on nine months rent free for the hospitality sector in doing that in a way that has some sort of government support but also works for the landlord as much as possible and worse for the tenants and he's probably realistically the the most Biggest thing after furloughing the can really help provide some sort of glimpse of hope for the future of hospitality in this country. Before the next quarter's rent is Ju- so with the legislation. The rex changing all of the time. I wanted to have a catch with JD. And just get the latest on that and then we just chew the fat a little bit around what the future might look like and mass and screens alfresco dining can relax the regulations with people with outside space before inside space. That might look like across the country. So because it's very time specific. I wanted to get it out. Same Day so please listen. I hope you enjoy it as always if you can support the podcast go to humans of Hospitality. Dot UK. Click on the Patriot league. Can you can make a donation by the tip jar to keep us on the air. All sign up for our weekly newsletter. Okay thanks so much enjoying the episode and be back with you soon. Okay Jonathan Danny thank you so much for coming back onto the podcast hugely appreciated where you in the World J. D. A. You up in your office or you ever been the streets. I mean my new Home Office which is in Boston. And we're desperately trying to get out of the lease on our head office Shortage at the moment alone load. There is just not doesn't seem to understand the way the world's changed our rents and property rights business rights that are about two hundred thousand pounds a year. That's a cost we could well do without and so the moment. I was working from home on my kitchen table with my business partner Rick. Another colleague Kerry comes round from time to time. And then we've got two or three other people so working remotely occasional visits but generally. I'm pretty good Position Actually because I've got a nice little garden. Jim Out the back Harry. One of the guys I work with is into his cross fit. And so we do this. Harry's boot camp five days a week which is great every morning just did yoga for now today as well so I asked really cool to healthy salad lunch and some water melon for dessert off. They go. That's not the J. D. That we know as the cocktail coffin. Kind of basically. I thought you look doing your line the other day. I thought you're looking fit and healthy. Which is good. Because you've somehow become the sort of national representative of independent hospitality. I suppose somehow maybe slightly accidentally maybe slightly on purpose in the last few months. Oh thanks for what you do since we last had a catch up When we did that hospitality union didn't necessarily exist in it in its current guys. Can you just talk a little bit about that? And what made you avenue who the members our what is for? Yes sure so. I mean you say a representative accidentally and two large extent. Regrettably and I don't think I don't feel as though I represent anybody. I just feel like I am almost like a funnel for the views of a lot of people. So you know for instance. I asked posted something on whatsapp group. So we set up this WHATSAPP. I sell this WHATSAPP group on the sixteenth of March. Which is the same day that Boris at set to everyone to avoid pope's clubs in this is another social venues and it was just in the in the afternoon of that ends in the morning of that day and prior to that. I just been texted individually texting. What's sapping all mates and people in the industry? I knew and it was just taking me too long so put them all in one group. I think invited to and fifty people in the end at just people I knew in the industry and everybody joined and everybody stayed and then it grew to another group. And we've now got over three thousand people and Most of them are the known to me known to existing members. Oh they've kind of been semi verified by my colleague Julia. As being onus business owners in hospitality senior operates is or they work in the press or property appeal or something or recruitment of something related to our industry and so as I say over three thousand people in the now I get hundreds of messages. Sometimes thousands of messages each week loads of feedback. I think there's a there's an organization called the Independent Restaurant Coalition that was set up in the US in the immediate aftermath of what's been happening with this virus where little bit similar to that. I think we represent a broad spectrum of Hospitality also operators than perhaps anyone else here or elsewhere at just because solve rag tag group of you know individuals and and others who oh all interested in what's going on you know wants to share and steps date with things so it's been really useful for me to hear everyone's position and opinions and I trying cut out and edit down a lot of and then trying to pass it on as a kind of light very unique I suppose voice but also to some extent unified voice and when I think I'm about to say something that could become virtual unusually sense. Check it with the group and I'll get loads of messages back. Say No. I think you're all while I would do that. I don't agree with that and then toned down a bit etc so I think yeah put independent voices is I think is the right way of saying it. I don't really feel like I'm representing anybody else directly. I think if I did I would have to behave differently. I I want to be allowed to say what I think I you know is the right thing to say. I want to be allowed to take positions on things and be opinionated. If Need Bait. Not some kind of organizational body that needs has reputational risk issue or needs to be controlled. All considered in some way needs to have a consensus. You know so it's it's a bit more Of A free independent voice exposed in that respect it feels a little bit rebellious Excuse me but yes definitely got a bit of personality and I think I think represents the sector well because of the the other side of our sector I suppose is the peanut. The giant globals the Hiltons. Compasses in the end. The big guys but it feels like a much more Yes mold operates motivators who really in the thick of things I spoke with this pandemic and maybe the financial implications are perhaps more personal than just having in a big bowl to shareholders. I'm sure there's there's mixed group in there. But as what is the site where which has been brilliant an annual conduit for for so fast information in your access to some of the press contacts and get in the name out in the press has been brilliant but also built a website also have been writing to the government you wrote to them. I think national. Timeout was one of your key campaigns. You had someone that twenty signatures that represented a lot of a lot of people and started. Doing video has morphed into more than you expected it to us. Both when you saw it as a what subject. Yeah I think we became much more of a campaign Thing that wasn't again. The originally the planet was more of a like a loud voice. We've also I think looked at ways of getting a bit more structure to it because I was just being overwhelmed with too much messages. And requests and people with the beginning of all these people terrified before the s before some of these other measures business owners which is terrified because they had the most to lose. If you one cafe or two pumps you'll losing everything if we don't get some of these things sorted out it's not just a question of a loss of dropping revenue or a reduction in dividend or a you know or a bonus in a loss of bonus. These people are losing their entire livelihoods and I was really motivate from the outset to save jobs. You know. That's what was kinda getting me out of bed early than ever been my life before and it was really stimulates stimulating so it's become a bit more structured. A bit more organized is still really just me. We've got I've got Jim Bell helping with the PR. She's got lots of other things to do as well Matt. Sanders is working with me for a while. But he's had to go ultra part time now. He can do a few hours a week. It's all been completely funded by May at the moment. I think I'm about thirty five thousand pounds in the whole with all the graphic design. The video still Jemma mass time etc Sony. To think about how long can maintain not fall? But I'm not worried about that at the moment. I just want to try and get this national timeout salted Dale. Don't on rent before you know. The rents apocalypse at the end of June happens. Yeah well there was some really big things and some of them with your voice and others were chief really quickly. So the end of the furlough scheme was an absolute game changer. We had the The sort of moratorium I guess on on Brennan Insolvency. Let's start with timeout. Because that's one of the reasons I wanted to get an update. So you know you've you've been a particularly good. I suppose turning what was a very loose ide a couple of months ago into You know thing it's go strap line. There's been a lot of people now using that sort of national timeout. You've got a lot of very famous chefs and restaurants will back in it so it looks like he's got some huge momentum. What's the latest on? What levels of confidence? I suppose on getting the result of that phrase so I knew that the outset but this is our opening shot. This is our opening request. You know this is a negotiation with government regarding tenants and landlords and so. I think I'm glad we've got national timeout. Now on the agenda it's on it's online. It's everywhere it's on TV it's in print. It's you know it's become the thing and some there's been some great big voices in our industry saying I loved listening to our Murdoch CEO. Burger King mentioned it. Three times on Newsnight. You know a couple of weeks ago. It's it's good that that's happening. And now we need to get to grips with the detail of what it means. I thought that Treasury with come back with some issue and some questions some concerns and lots of that has been fed back to me informally in the way that a lot of things we've dealt with a few weeks ago with the with JRS with these forfeiture moratorium about this informal feedback system. Where an I I respond to that? But that's just not happened. Because and the reason is grant rent solution has not been a priority for government these last few weeks that's changed in the last few days and I it is becoming a will be the new property in the next few weeks because something has to be done. Otherwise know fifty percent of businesses. Two million jobs will be lost so I'm confident I'm extremely confident I'm very. I couldn't really be more confident. I guarantee something has to be done. It self evident is name something has to be done by government to saw a rent solution needs to be delivered otherwise too many jobs lost. That's Goodman won't allow that to happen what that looks like. We don't know yet. I've got a very good idea of what it could look like and now negotiation an I could if I could just say also mark. The negotiation is not being helped by some of the new voices that have been coming into this conversation recently with their thoughts about what things could look like. We don't need twenty thirty fifty different people negotiating this deal for is we need one two or three were all on the same page okay and included in those two or three and UK hospitality. Kate Nichols is included in those one-two-three and maybe some other people too but we all need to get behind the same bus on the needs to be one lead negotiator and we'd support for the best and most reasonable deal the most achievable day. We can does the best for the most and that is what I'm trying to do over the next few weeks good and it's one of the reasons why I wanted to catch up with you because it's been driving me bonkers as well you know. There's various localized kind of WHATSAPP groups or membership groups. And I'm in a couple down here in the south and and you see these conversations even this morning people were kinda putting out there you know. We can arrange a meeting together so that we can go to the council for example as sort of attendance or as Atlanta numbers and stop asssociation. 's At and sometimes you feel you missing this surely surely our best hope at the moment is to stand behind this national time our not splinter and not go off and do different things at somebody else writes about best case scenario is to get three months fifty percent or three months free and every time. Kinda national timeout natural. It's being worked on so I think maybe people are starting to panic because we come closer to the next call and they're feeling they need to go out and the go she ate personally. I'm Alan Earth. Do you negotiate currently know for anything. That's worse than than Nine months because we don't know what reopen and is going to let you know if if the rex come out that say that you know it definitely is to me is between each table and you all GonNa Learn. Lose seventy percent of your covers. It's so unviable. The what's the point of negotiating? A rent reduction of this state's was surely at that point. If you can't even open the doors it has to be nine months rent free so I share and Yeah thanks would consider into bang the drum the biggest question you always get is how landlords took with this can you? Can you just talk a little bit? About what is quite difficult to explain with words and without pictures but and I produced an illustration and I'll try and talk through it. Our account guarantee you'll make sense if in the as well but yeah talk for basically if if you're most landlords on commercial premises borrowed against the security of the premises that letting into hospitality businesses. Typically that's about sixty to seventy percent of the value of the premises. So if you look at for instance as an example a building site that led to a restaurant or bar rates over one hundred and twenty thousand pounds a year and we ask for nine months rent free on the face of it. That's a ninety thousand nine hundred thousand pounds of rent of income. That landlord is lost. Except it's not because he will have borrowed that landlord he or she. That company will borrowed a significant amount of money on depending on the value of that. And they're probably paying. I don't know eighty thousand pounds a year of interest secured on those premises that. Getting a hundred and twenty thousand pounds of income from so if you give that landlord a nine month. Repayment break that sixty thousand pounds of interest. They don't have to pay for nine months so they're not losing out on the nine hundred thousand. Losing out a nine hundred thousand miners. Sixty thousand only losing out on thirty thousand pounds okay. And that's fundamentally what people who are suggesting. That tenants need to share the pain that we need to find a middle ground. Don't understand those are the maths of most commercial premises the hospital. Ty- operators operating. So they're not missing out on their nine hundred thousand they're missing out on thirty thousand and then you go further up the chain. The bank is also taking a margin and it will take a hit And the people who've provide the money to the bank bouts deposit people who put bank deposits Bondo the Bank of England they will be taking. Us lies and it's about spreading it all out and that's been the plan from the outset. The I've not been very good at communicating because it is quite complicated and I have tried to talk this through some very big brains including some Harvard economics graduates and it still is quite hard to get your head around which is why I've tried to turn into an illustration or a kind of an example and I think if the penny drops on that for a lot of people and a government especially then I think more people will get behind the idea and more people see that actually nine months rent free or something. Not Too far off from is quite achievable. And it's reasonable but more importantly it's what's needed for these hospitality businesses to survive and if they don't survive they won't carry on being rent paying tenants much longer. You know that makes a lot sense and it seems pretty clear but yet send the illustration there's also this point and are you still refer into this about the idea of adding the nine months onto the end of people's leases is that proved more complicated. I think again I think here you have to give the power to the land. Lots if the landlord again. The idea came from getting feedback from the hospital to Union WHATSAPP group to say some guys at agreed to a six months rent. Free in return for five years added onto the end. The lakes you know people. Negotiating deals like that individually. So that's one idea. The other idea is and this depends on the length of lease so for instance at my site in Canary Wharf. I think I've got seven years left. I could get nine months rent free and then I could spread out nine months or part of it over the remaining term of my lease in the way that I've just applied for a three-month mortgage repayment break on my house and that three months is then spread out remaining term of the mortgage or something eleven years. You know that that's manageable. You know so there's things there's different ways of doing it and I think you you give the option to the landlord to decide what they would prefer prefer the extension to the lease or they prefer it to be spread out over the term of lease. Donna Obama for instance. I don't want it spread out with remaining terms of the lease because I got two years and we're paying four fifty thousand pounds a year rent so I don't know what nine nine twelve four fifty thousand pounds is but I don't not spread over the next two years of the least because it's just law is lost too much. You know there are there are there are edge cases in the details that it would be too boring to go into now mock but there there are ways we can deal with everything pretty much. We can do everything. So what's your hope or strategy with government and they they provide a sort of As a framework for this conversation's where it's almost like let you go option. Abc or you hoping that you're going to be very specific we'll do you expect people to negotiate different deals with different landlords. Why would like them to do is like what they did with the jrs and just take the big idea? You know what we're GONNA do Everyone in needs it on fellow. We're GONNA pay them eighty percent of that or Massive percentage of what would they would be earning to keep employees next to businesses so we can reopen him bounce back at some point in the future. That's the big idea right. This is just the same. That's why I called a big idea in a letter to the chancellor his big idea please come up with something. It won't be perfect but you did a brilliant job with JRS. One do a brilliant job with the national you know and in the meantime we should be campaigning for the best deal we can get not because we're being greedy or trying to take advantage but because this is what we need to keep going. Landlords need does to stay in business. The ones that are kind of up to speed on this. You know understand that there are few absolute fucking idiots. It just don't seem to get it and it just holding on and holding specially in London. Where if you're ten it goes out of business. You'll probably going to find someone to take over the site especially in central London. You know we send these people. At criterion capital and these Dome Wet The Landlords Union. That was setup. I don't if you saw that in the up upstream that was directly aimed at you. What scoundrels and they were like straight out of central casting villains yet. But that's why I refer government to do I think What you care. Hospitality has been asking for is a summit meeting which is a good idea. As long as I'm at it and I don't want I really don't want you know I hesitate to say this but I have to say this. Uk Tally cannot be negotiating. This deal for everybody in who owns a hospitality business in the UK? They cannot be negotiating it. They've got a very up to narrow a remits from the members from their board from that council to represent the whole industry. So I'm very happy. It's very important. They are there. It's key that all that but they cannot be the so negotiator for everybody in hospitality in the UK. And I'm sure that won't be the case. It looks from the outside that you to complement each other very well as opposed because I think you represent a slightly different demographic and a different side of the market is that recognized and is that relationships have healthy. I think Kay is is great and I've said it from the outset I think I don't really WANNA get into. I think about everything else to do with UK hospitality. I've I've already said probably a bit more than I want to. I just you know. There's some great people on that council. I only know one person on the board that is great and I think what's Hospitality Union is doing is raising the profile of our industry in a different way campaigning. In a different way and also I hesitate to say represent but is a voice for a huge Of different sector of our industry. You know we. We're acting for acting for so. It's the wrong phrase. We are listening to an a megaphone for the tenants of pubs not the pub Coz the own them and there is a big difference in interest. They're not surprisingly. The pope goes didn't want national timeout. Don't want a national rent-free wants to take the grant money from tenants that were the fifty one thousand pound rateable value threshold. Pay Rents photo period of lockdown at every co put a lot of them. And I just think that's bonkers. You know that was a very tactful answer. Well Done D. impressed and I think what you represent as your new. You alluded to this just now. Is that some of the people and as you say you don't represent them but you're your channel. I suppose of our energies and our fears and our aspirations for many of US businesses that we've built up over ten fifteen twenty years longer. Our houses our cars. These literally on the line and with some of the bigger groups is border directors and it is a balance sheet in some shares. And it's fluctuations in short and you profits but I think where we won't you around. That table is the some people. Don't recognize. Just how it is and that we will not be here eight by by significant margins. If we don't get some sort of significant response and I've been the same you know when I was telling people in the early days a couple months ago. I think more people are getting it now. Now is not the time to negotiate. Most of you don't realize just how shack this industry is. GonNa be full quite some time. And if we don't think bigger it's no good going in and asking for two months six weeks or something like that. It won't be enough particularly anywhere in the in the sort of tourist areas. I'm right at the moment. Okay I'll get through the win for the summer on a personal level but how on earth we get through the winds up both in the fact that there won't be much ALFRESCO space. And what will people be thinking but we just Cannell make enough money in in the summer to get through the winter? I think if you know the you're you're not gonNA have any way to live and you'll that motivated than you want. Somebody sat round table. Kind of you know. Yeah Champs a bit louder and demands a little bit more with a bit more passionate. I suppose you do that very well. Jd Okay good carry on doing it. Then thank you very much. I'm going to move off this topic. Very short is allows one the government response so far on that then it. Does it feel like you're pushing on an open door and they let you say this is about to be the next priority yes yesterday. So they're all I know who's ready knows given it to you know I. I don't mention any names you know. I was being fed stuff in the early days. And you know on a no names basis and you're not allowed to mention you know when I you know and I just don't want to spoil. That channel is good enough for me that if you say you know I think. Donald message over to compromise channels. I think you know and listen. Uk hospitality is absolutely fantastic. Job At getting into a directly a direct link and a very influential link into government. We all recognized as a key industry. Now we they listened to was you know and it's it's been incredibly effective that merger of the or wherever else it was that made you. Kale's metality has had outstanding results. And you can see for yourself in the last few weeks with you know what's been achieved so I you know We can all take some from that. I'm just a bit concerned that perhaps the full spectrum of interests isn't being represented and so I gotTa keep my eye open on that and sort of like when the Little Guy sometimes when I'm Perhaps that's really a priority. I think you need both. I think you know Yeah Complement Each Other. Really well one. Yes got that that legacy and that you know many years of Of Relationship History and to be fair. You know you're you're the same it's much better to To keep doors open and keep communications open and and people to work together but at the same time it's okay to be two vocalists and to press and push little Bihar. The maybe other people wouldn't I think most people recognize that you don't want everybody just to be nodding and smiling in the room. So yeah I think I think. Walk in the line Well J. D. and you mentioned yesterday some some moving away from From rents and hopefully we can maybe catch up again in a few weeks. Well hopefully they'll just be a national solution and that will be enough for us but the other thing that came out yesterday was the insolvency bail. I know you've been speaking about that again for the last couple of months. That was going to be the other big issue is there's lots of restaurant groups hospitality groups who people sometimes big amounts of cash sometimes a little bit so cash and could easily be be pushed into insolvency fall to early I read it or try to. I know it's complicated. But can you give us any kind of update on on how that's progressing? What more needs to be done? Well I've been shouting and backing for a enforcement moratorium since March the eighteenth and it's been on my list of sixth of things. I thought we needed as an industry to save through this and it's the only one of the sixth that they've not come up with yet. It's been long promised six weeks ago. Now the Business Secretary Alec. Chama said he was coming at. The delay is because this is going to be permanent. Registration is you can. Uk Law for a long time. It's not just the temperature virus built-up legislation so they've got to get perfectly right and so forever. More at least forfeiture. Moratorium is now going to be part of UK law which is good in one respect. It means that if you are a struggling tenants and your landlord is threatening to repossess change the locks etc you can now ply for company moratorium which will give you twenty days to propose a rescue plan at about twenty days extendable if you need more driven process which is a bit boring which means you probably need a lawyer or an insolvency practitioner to help draft it and if the Rescue plan is reasonable and approved by the court than it's binding on creditors in there are all sorts of details on that and what. It's not though it's not a debt enforcement moratorium and I can't see as such in the moment. And what what I the reason I wanted at that enforcement moratoriums because that would have given landlords the breathing space. They needed the break. They needed to provide rent-free for tenants. So when I initially asked for least forfeiture moratorium which I think number three on my list number four was enforcement moratorium the to needed to go together because that would have enabled. That would've helped. Landlords agree immediately rent-free deals because of they wouldn't be paying their interests they wouldn't have to repay their loans as be a discount moratorium on that and that's not that's not appeared as far as I can see in this new legislation which is a big disappointment. So it's not a full take on my list. It's kind of like a third of tick and I don't really know what leave says. Come the end of June when the existing lease forfeiture moratorium runs out. We've expected that that would be extended since day one pretty much and we still hope that it will be. I'm a little concerned that the now bringing in this twenty day company moratorium which includes Elise forfeiture. Moratorium might mean. They won't extend the General National Moratorium. But you know maybe that's not the case but if it is the case as a big problem for people and just was mangled that means that means that say. Let's say we The the end of June the current one runs out and that literally the landlords couldn't turn up for hours later and take possession of premise premises. That how it works count. It depends on the lace. But it's usually a month or twenty one days later if you've not paid you rent if you've been told you need to then they can just change the locks and repossessed the premises and again. It's a particular problem in cities where you've got voluble premises on high footfall sites and this kind like this land. Grab this rush to take back premises. That have had multi-million-pound fits outs etc etc. It will also be an issue if you own a beautiful pope in the countryside in Norfolk or in Yorkshire and you've been running it and you know taking making money and landlords of Dick and he loves Your Business and would love to get hold of it you know but you can't pay your rent and they can change the locks and all of a sudden a stick in it and not only getting their rent that also getting all the prophet. The person spent the last five ten that highlife building open to a brilliant business. You know so that. That's what I'm trying to stop. That's why I thought we needed lease. Full shimmered sodium in the first place. And it's why we needed extending beyond the end of June to at least the end of September so we can agree national timeout all to the end of the year. I think this is. This is my favorite as an operator as well and I'm sure I reflect. Lots of other people spent a million pounds on a restaurant. It's a great location. Because it's right on the seafront and there'd be plenty of people you know. I don't pay my rent in the moments. No It's pay its account pay. We were living on fumes coming out of the window into all summer season. But the fear is that you know the council could easily rent that to somebody else with with bigger pockets there and even if we're not allowed to open for the next two years you know I could spend a couple of hundred grand just sat on that restaurant. Leave it close but when it opens. I've still got a million pound restaurant K. basically and that's that's the catastrophic all scenario that we currently facing presumably. Yes exactly that exactly. I say they spent two million quit on giant robot in Canary. Wharf can't pay the rent there. I you know nine hundred thousand pounds a year rent and rates on that site. So that's a big big cost. That is just not with reopen this year. It's all I don't think I don't know how many people are going to go back to work in the office in the tower blocks in Canary wolf to make it worthwhile Know for the next eighteen months. Maybe you know and milk and honey the CY ahead in Soho. For Eighteen. Years paid nearly four million in rent. Their landlord wants one hundred percent of the rent. No rent free no break no nothing. The only concession is paid monthly in advance. So you know without at least forfeiture moratorium without all these productions that we've now got that's all gone. That is a very valuable late license. I in Soho. Whether have been no new late licenses. Think eighteen years now. I think that that license is probably worth a million and a half million quid. This virus has a you know it could just be taken off me. I doubt very much. We'll reopen milk and honey. The only thing I can do that is surrender. The license so that my land grabbing whine ca landlord doesn't get the benefit of and. I'll have to do that. You know so. I think. I think it's heartbreaking when you hear stories like that just because you know milk and honey Scott phenomenal reputation. Such a legacy. It's been there for so many years. You know it was so much of the Cultural Revolution. I suppose. Yeah for things. That's ago go under at times like this is a sad state of affairs. Purely just lack of understanding. It's not. It's not difficult to comprehend the level of the challenge but also like you say the comparative little amount of that needs not nine months of rent free and and it could will be different is just Okay well I don't want you to stop in at any more angry. So let's move a little bit into what reopening might let you. You mentioned that about whether it'd be worth opening tool so a lot of people to start into look to that and is it how Frisco joining for example is it dining side. You think it was yesterday. Bow Out there. So the fair for Hospitality. Report is a seventy five page document. I've not had a chance to read it yet. Have you had a challenge or any thoughts on it while I would have lights have seen it before it was sent into and I'm very disappointed. I wasn't give a chance given a chance to chip in a comment. But A it's gone now. I I've not read the whole report. Time to read seventy five pages One of the first things I would have said was. Does it relate to be seventy five pages. Who Does it really need to detail? I think it's a mistake to be doing. Things like demonizing salt and pepper potts. I know we're trying to help with the idea of removing salt and pepper potts a the infection can pass that way but I do think we've got a massive issue now with this kind of like new project. Fear of people being frightened of coming to venues Baas restaurants wherever as and we've got to stop making things like salt and pepper potts dangerous. All you know met one use menus etc. Yes they're all helpful if a single if a business wants to do that if they want to shout about. That's what they're doing. They should be allowed to do it but as I think. It's just the wrong. I think it's the wrong message I I think saying we'll meets a distancing will accept is is the wrong message but it's probably. This is probably not the time to go into that mark. I think I think a much better message. Would base. Smaller capacity venues should required to have any kind of distancing Because that is just not. It just doesn't work and if the value is down as low as in London at the moment and that continues and remains the case. If as we've seen in Australia which Relaxed is lockdown on April. The fourteenth has been no second spike has been no new wave. If as it seems allow this could change the viruses. Just petering out if as we seem to know now. The outside seating out outside infection is is negligible. Then are we talking about? We'll meet to distancing outside. We know why we talking about what to discipline. If he's a ten person terrace. You know where it's I I don't. We should be volunteering. These new measures because they will remain with us and a long time and only well well funded. Organizations are going to be able to survive if you these in place so yes. They might work for McDonald's but no they don't work for milk and honey so yet. I think that there needs to be an acknowledgment and and I think the generally is that is different strokes. You know so. We'll see where we end up but I. We need to get opening safely phased outside areas especially immediately. I've got no idea why things can't be open in the next few days at people be ready to go maybe not with food because you've got supply line issues and a workplace issues about people working in kitchens and proximity and safety there but a couple of people or one person behind the bar working by themselves in pope with an outside you know on pavement space or big garden. Let's get it open. Let's say people to make their own choices about whether they want to go there or not in the way that they're making their own choices about whether they go to the beach or not in the way they're making their own choice about where they sit in the park on with other people in the way they don't shows about where they go to the supermarket on you know let people make their own choices. Now we know we have never been so well informed about something as we are about covid nineteen. We are able to make our own choices now. The reason we weren't allowed to make our own choices was because we didn't want to overwhelm the NHS. We've got through that we've achieved that you know. What is the reason now? We're not being allowed to make our own choices. I I don't I don't know and government needs to tell us or government needs to allow us to a gradual faced safe reopening before the fourth of July. Why do we need to wait another six seven weeks? Whatever it is. That's crazy said a few times hospitality. We saw experts in food safety. We are experts in customer safety. We can be trusted. We'VE GOT INITIATIVE INNOVATION. We care about people we spend our lives looking after people we might not be. Nhl Workers but we do look after people and we really know what we're doing and we can be trusted and they should allow us to get on with it within a reasonable frayed more Within some phase controls and without the need sued demonize salt and Pepper Potts. Yup I agree. I think safety wise. You know you look. We saw shellfish on on the beach. Salmonella you look chicken. You look undercooked pork. Every day we have the in a life and death of our customers in our hands if we if we don't follow processes you putting something in your body with the we didn't talk about. This kind of stuff is just expected that you trust us not supposing you but we could very easily. But of course we don't because we love customers and everybody's trained in food hygiene in the show. We are in many ways over the next to kind of you know Karen and the health in know such a clean environment to operate. Because we've got to look after your health and your wellbeing so I I agree Some trust is required. And actually a in the we've reopened our takeaway and it's interesting you know takeaways of being able to open all the way through this but I'll one specifically is on the front and it didn't feel right in the fat. You only be on the beach if you will go out. Maybe few hours daily exercise clearly. You couldn't really have a bear or slice of pizza if you're exercising but as soon as Barra said it's okay you can go and sit in the Sun will. We'll be okay but actually encouraged way right on the beach front and and we looked at the REX for the kitchen was which was particularly complicated but actually in is to meet his way possible and there are some recommendations when it's not possible and it's about working in bubbles and it's about you know trying to set up stations so that you're not facing each other but you will next to each other. We've alarms go off in the kitchen. Every twenty five minutes. The insists on clean down. We've got account to the public. Come up to which is cleaned visibly in inbetween every single customer cooled for would WanNa time and we sanitize each time. You give him little buzzers to come back and pick up foods. You don't need to wait in the queue and those a sanitized in between and this isn't because somebody wrote it down and regulated and made numerous. There used our brain for all specific circumstances and said look. This is the best that we can do. I do worry sometimes that Sir yet we we make things more complicated than they need to be with the right intentions and like you say some of the big groups who will be worried about their insurance and their teams and being sued. I suppose maybe need that structure to say look we did all of this and therefore where okay but in in our sector teams often work together. Ten fifteen years is tightly unit. They WANNA get less work and we don't want we don't want to harm we'll cates. We grandparents we look after each other but yeah let's let's not make it more complicated than it needs to be now. You should take a video of what you do each time. You serve a customer. That's fantastic those protocols and measures that you make and speed up thirty seconds. Say Look this is what we do is as an industry. This is how we do it. I mean I I just people don't realize and you know we find new ways of communicating. Clearly you know how good we are. Good how brilliant. Nice that. You're just talking about that. I mean I I wouldn't have gone to those Lens but you know you can learn from others and thinks shit we OPA game. These guys are kicking ass sanitizing and cleaning down and etc you know nothing you'll see Great job with screens. You know. And they've got reopen and you don't need it doesn't feel weird or that we had going into a pret- and there's somebody standing me on a perspex screen. It would feel very where you walks into my local Bouza and somebody standing behind perspex screen. You know I think we do what we can wear. We can and what we'll do. We'll be absolutely brilliant and innovative. And you know we'll bleeding again. We have been years and I do think that the public will decide on what level of risk. They're comfortable with them back. In the early days it was seeing those sort of you know people say almost in in plastic perspex cubes in China and everybody was wearing masks and I looked at that and I was like my God. I would rather not go out for dinner than go and sit in that kind of environment. That's just not hospitality as we do it but I think that doesn't stop us from doing a lot of things like with the salt and pepper. Shakers you know. Why not just clean this pepper shakers in between each service rather than insisting that led not there shortly there are. There are other ways of doing these things. And now that you say communicated with the public high did say that the government do recommend that you do sort of. Covid nineteen risk assessment for your individual premise. And that you publish that premise. To your at that risk assessments. You'll team but also you put on the website and use it to customers and I think as a customer if you WanNa look on and went. Yeah I'm I'm happy with that. Level of risk will level of safety or no different people. Some people will want to go to a chain like a Pratt. Because they believe they funded seventy five pages of Rosenberg's and other people you know. I want to to support my local independent pub Don on I'm happy with that and we need to give people the responsibility to growing up suspect exactly if there is a bit of a concern. I think without having read in great detail that some of these fine the five thousand employees businesses. We need these rules clearly defined by government so we can operate and we can say to our five thousand employees. This is how it got two guys you know going to be imposed on everybody and you know that's not a good thing. We've got to make sure that we can be allowed. You can be allowed to do your thing. In the way that's best for Your Business and your people in will woodfield customers. We got to allow that room. And I you know in a not be Opening the door to all kinds of new Rosen. It happened in nightclubs. You know if there's a stabbing on a council estate near nightclub then everyone's so all of a sudden the metal detector on the door you know it it's gotta be there forever and then you got to have another security guard for this and have a low book for that you know it it becomes more. It's more and more layers of unreasonable. And in many cases unnecessary cost on a business. It's not that make you unsustainable and we just gotTa do what people should be left to make their own decisions about what the best thing is an and like you say and then the customer will decide. You know the agree hundred. That's what terrifies me. Is that yeah again? Well intentioned people come to life in the grey areas. I'm all for Graham. I think actually it depends on your maybe political or opinion. Possession of risk and guesses self-employed entrepreneurs. You probably know always the best people to ask. We've we've probably go slightly high risk strategy than some people but we're not going to be forcing people to go out but you know. I respect what Bora said. It's much easier to regulate when we can say everybody stay home but it's much harder to come out with the nuances of what sites. What's not safe and what you can do. And I do think we're going to have to just rely on people Took to be informed and as you say they are informed that was challenging accounts that a couple of days down boneless about re-opening toilets and there was this debate about if we if we opened the toy on the beach. Is that encourage people to come to the patient is that as and then the flip side of that debate was what people are. GonNa come anyway and if not. That's going to be a huge health problem. And then they looked at all. We're GONNA need to semantically Toyota to use the only two people come a time and they cost the up and it was going to be fifty thousand pounds a week to tomatoes toilets. At and again I think the you know the business sector on the seafront was saying look. Please give people some common sense. Put some signs up. The says only three people out in time. Draw some lines on the ground. That says you know. Don't don't over encroach these. And then it says it's management by exception rather than treating everybody as idiot and that's what we're going to need definitely good. Well I've taken up more time than I was planning but thanks for that really useful. I just wanted to get an update. I'm going to not necessarily relaxed on the on the negotiations. But I'm not gonNA panic in the next couple of weeks at least and hopefully some sort of solution. I'm I'm still excited. I've done a couple of CASS with some guests in Shanghai. Actually which was really interesting because I obviously about some eight weeks ahead of us and it was interesting to hear that the of level of fair I suppose when they first reopen the and the local sort of police will come in and they were checking. It was a means to that so they were checking. There was a meter between tables. Everybody was being temperature. Checked every delivery driver every customer every member of staff and it will have to be logged and it was pretty onerous and even within eight weeks. The hasn't being a second spike people become more relaxed. It's not that they've changed the regulations that just not enforcing them people using that common sense and and it's not it's not back to normal but it was. It was a little bit more optimistic. To hear the human beings at doing what human beings do ana going out and having some drinks so hopefully There's a way through this Jay. Thanks to spend the time. Is there any other particular topic that we've missed that you'd like to go over where you have any support? I suppose the People. Can you send you some cash by the sounds of the cost of been? Maybe at some point at some sends me by Camden town is very grateful for that. That case of beer didn't last long after say once when we got cold and the people are caravan a semi some coffee and not kept me going and no more right. I think You know I think we'll know a lot more tomorrow will know a lot more next week. We'll have a lot more next month. Hopefully and I think we've definitely some kind of solution we just. I just hope it said no of people really will say quite alright. Thanks Day Day. We'll keep in touch appreciate your time right. No Problem Okay there. You have it very much. Hope you enjoyed our chat and I'm always find enjoyable catching up with J. D. and gain his opinion and he's he's super energized super-motivated very enthusiastic. He really wants to see an industry that he and I know. Many view love succeed and he wants to help save as many jobs as possible which I think is great. And he's got some some good ideas and getting some some important people in government and helping represents which I think is fantastic so fingers crossed. Things will continue to develop is key time now. I think as we look at trying to reopen them. What that might look like whether that's going to be economically viable how many jobs we can save how we survive the winter alfresco dining all sorts of stuff to come out hopefully in the next few weeks and and I'm sure I'll catch up with jd again in the future as well as others around. What's going on what we can hope strategize and plan for if you could leave a review on apple podcasts. That would be fantastic. Really helps me out with the algorithms and don't forget goto humans of Hospitality Dot CODA UK. Sign up for our weekly newsletter and support aspira patron page. 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"This is mornings with Kale in northern. Colorado's voice thirteen ten KFI Kfi. Seven or eight on your Tuesday morning thirteen ten, k. k. thirteen ten K. of K. A. DOT COM northern Colorado's voice mornings with Gail live and local via the auto collision Specialists Studios. Well, it's been said let a good crisis go to waste in those ever enterprising scandalous. Reprobate opportunists are hard at work, just want to pass along a couple of stories to you this morning. So you can keep your eyes peeled the Weld County sheriff's office over the weekend according to a piece by trevor read warned us of fraudulent concealed carry weapons certification that is apparently being offered online. Now, a couple recently visited the sheriff's Office to obtain a concealed handgun permit this according to a social media post from the sheriff's office the couple spent several hundred dollars to. Take a certification class online but said certification isn't valid in Colorado. Sheriff's Office. Took the opportunity to remind us all to. Always Research, and fully that accompany before paying for anything any certification for anything for that matter. Online. Dishes tips include be wary of companies offering free certification or advertising quote quick and easy certification close quote such as reading one article and taking a ten question quiz. No, that's not how this works. That's not how any of this works be wary. Okay and the bottom line is and how many times have we had this conversation when you see something online, it's like Oh you know take your dream vacation we won't even get into timeshares, but if it sounds too good to be true, you know the predicate. It probably is. Be Wary of companies that claim you can print your own certificate at home. Reputable companies offer certificates that features some type of bossing or at the very least to watermark certificates must be signed by a class instructor. Colorado law requires at least a portion of a concealed carry class to be taught in person even during the covid nineteen pandemic legitimate classes take about four to six hours on average, which could consist entirely of classroom instruction or a mix of classroom instruction and range time finally. No single test. No test for that matter. Can Grant someone certification in all fifty states so keep your eyes peeled for that fraudulent concealed carry weapon class online. Better Business Bureau meanwhile, warning northern Colorado and about this online face mask retailer better business bureau serving northern Colorado and Wyoming according to a piece August fifth by by Fernandez, warning us all about a Wyoming based on line retailer. That sells face mass. Retailer is known as hyper favor according to a news release better business bureau has received sixty one complain and fifty-six negative custer customer reviews for hyper favor. Through its website hyper favor dot com. The company sells themed and customizable apparel including up fairly wide assortment of cloth face coverings. Now, according to a news release from the better, business bureau interested in this business course has skyrocketed during the covid nineteen pandemic face massive become mandated about many places around the country. Better Business Bureau has received more than nine thousand, nine, hundred thousand inquiries on hyper phase. Hyper favors business profiles since the end of April. Consumers report order fulfillment concerns, including the laid shipments, and well receiving partial orders. Many consumers have claimed they never received the merchandise they ordered despite extensive waiting times. Complaints also alleged receiving tracking numbers that appear to be fraudulent or that well, conveniently never update consumers who have encountered. These issues also report difficulties reaching business representatives with their concerns. I learned my lesson, the hard way with one online retailer. You ever had this experience where you order something, you never get it or you get it and it's defective or it's just not quite right or it's not what you ordered or you WanNa make a return Oh, just simply call their customer service number and one of their cheerful representatives will be more than happy to assist to. Dial the number you got the smarmy music. And you sit. And you sit some more. And you wait until finally you realize nobody's going to answer and you give up the ghost. The business has responded to several the more recent complaints though the majority have gone unanswered. Now, the Better Business Bureau noted that the Sheridan Wyoming address advert advertised by the company is a commercial registered agents location and not typically a physical place of business. Also according to this news release the better business bureau. Unable to locate a registration on file with the Wyoming. Secretary. Of State. Company companies conveniently also not responded to the better business bureau attempts to contact it. No surprise here company currently has an F rating based on the volume of complaints received and the company's failure to respond to the majority of them. So Watch out for this property and I use the term lightly this so-called online facemask retailer known as hyper favor. Their websites are. Their website is hyper favor dot com. You probably would be best served to avoid them at all costs seven fifteen now thirteen ten Kfi K. Dan Patrick the whole show in Collin cowherd are northern Colorado's voice thirteen, ten Kfi K. rockies baseballers right here another northern Colorado's voice thirteen, ten KFI. Here's some good news. It is indeed university bulldogs day on thirteen days thirteen teams training camp cam coverage powered by. Energy with our day sponsor dirty Dan's garage got dirty Dan's garage. We'll be joined debt right around seven forty this morning by preps radio host. Clark. Johnson. Who will give us a preview of tonight's installment thirteen days. Thirteen teams heard on thirteen ten Kfi a from five to six. So looking forward to that and don't forget Keith wineman presidential wealth management ways in this morning right around seven, thirty, five, this as stocks jumped in futures trading this morning after Vladimir Putin the bladder meter said, she has given regulatory approval for the world's first a covid nineteen vaccine. Why is it? I don't feel better that well, they given regulator Oh, there's a new VAC. I I guess it could be argued at least it's not coming from China but I I don't know I just can't get to stoked as the markets apparently did over the fact that Putin has given that initial approval for the world's first covid nineteen vaccine. I can't trust it coming from Russia commie skeptic call me jaded. But I think I'll just wait for one that comes out of well. The good. Old US A, how about you? Nine, seven, three, point three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, drop me a text on thirteen ten. K. A tech sign at three, one, nine, nine, six. All right. We're just talking about this the other day. Zach. Rogers who is a professor of supply chain management at Colorado State University, and we covered a whole bunch of ground talking essentially about logistics metrics, and that is a forward looking. Picture of what the economy will look like GDP is well more looking in the rear view mirror. But during the course of that conversation, we talked a little bit about those. Column Baby, but wipes but now those disinfectant wipes that well, you can't find anywhere anymore. Well, did you know that clorox says they are making one million wipes packages a day in an effort to keep up with a man but. Store, shelves won't be fully stocked. With these disinfectant wipes until twenty twen t one. In from peace out of Fox News by Lucas Marshall. This morning where you had clorox CEO elect. Linda rendall saying just yesterday that the company is making more disinfecting products than they ever have before this, just an effort to keep up with the demand during the pandemic but they're getting slammed since January said to rendell or rendel excuse me in interview with Good Morning America's Robin Roberts since January were able to make one hundred, million more disinfecting products than we did before. That's a fifty percent increase in specific two wives were nearly one million packages every day shipping them the stores but the company recently warned that store shelves won't be fully stocked with their products until next year as well as we're all aware. The pandemic led to a supply shortage as it has was so nice products I. Don't know stop with the hurting the hamster cough as it is referred to in German I. Believe I'm saying that correctly because have you done just you strolled through the aisles doing your best. To. Go the right way in the grocery store I. I just can't get it right I'm so sorry I apologize to anyone that I offend because I'm going the wrong way that everybody does it. But if you take a look at the store shelves and it seems as though that hoarding behavior has picked up again particularly when it comes to paper products. Meanwhile back to the peace. Disinfecting wipes, which are the hottest commodity in this business right now or probably take longer because it's a very complex supply chain to make them. In order for consumers. To be notified when cleaning products are available for purchase, you have rental noting there are many stores where you can sign up for reminders online to find out when products are back in stock or that allow you to find stores with products and start stock near you based on your Zip Code, if you tried then out nine, seven, hundred, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, eight, seven, seven, three, five, three, thirteen, ten, and is it effective? Rendell also recommended Collins store managers. Oh, I'll bet they love when they get those calls to understand when shipments arrive at their stores well so that you can plan your shopping trip accordingly. In addition Randall said their other products available in stock right now on the company website such as clorox bleach don't drink it that customers can use as an alternative to disinfecting wife's we have many tips on how you can use that to disinfect surfaces all around your home. Clerks. No surprise here reported a twenty one point, nine percent sales gain for the fiscal fourth quarter as consumers have been stocking up on cleaning products during the pandemic. Sales and clorox health and wellness segment, which includes disinfecting products in addition to vitamins rose thirty, three percent, but if you are on the hunt for those disinfecting wipes A. I'd love to know if you're finding them I mean I've been noodling around online and when you do find them the prices so jacked up I mean it's ridiculous. But have you been able to find those disinfecting wipes well, clorox doing its best to restock those store shelves by making a million wipes packages a day. But again, saying, and those shells probably won't be fully stocked with those products until twenty twenty one causing it on seven thirty now thirteen ten Kfi a thirteen ten KFI K. A. Dot com looking forward to our conversation with Keith Mine Wineman, we're going to get into the fact that stock futures. Futures. Trading. Jumped this morning this after Vladimir Putin said Russia has given regulatory approval for that world's first to covid nineteen scene but also want to talk a little bit about president trump's executive orders one component of it president signing that memo deferring not canceling payroll taxes for those who make less than one, hundred, thousand dollars a year. But critics claim this de-fund social security and that those taxes will still be due at some future date. With Keith wineman presidential wealth management in just a few. No Code Now Weekdays at four on northern Colorado's. Thirteen ten KFI K. Ed. Catch me. Dan. Patrick and the Danettes Weekday nine to noon on thirteen. Ten F.. K.. Let's all laughs than we would ever want to do is bring me down heiress the thought this as its university bulldogs day on thirteen days thirteen teams train camp coverage powered by PDC energy joined this morning by preps radio host, Clark Johnson and. Clark. Johnson I love thirteen days thirteen teams for so many reasons because especially now Timakova nineteen where everything's just all Wackadoo nutjob crazy we're talking sports, but also it's an excuse to break out the E. L.. Yeah. That's my favorite time. I tell you what hard on Tuesday for me to wake up. Pump a little Jeff Lynne in there and I'm ready to rock and roll. Yeah you're good to go. All right. So let's talk a little bit about what we can expect tonight thirteen days thirteen teams as we shine the spotlight on the university bulldogs via anytime gail that we get to preview a team that just coming off a state championship. It's always fun and so university does the interesting thing here is they dispatched their. Coach after last year. So don't exactly know the reasons why but I'll tell you what the bulldogs landed in a wonderful place. Chris Hutton is the new coach. If you're any kind of a CS, you softball fan, the Hutton family has gone through CSU. She got three girls that all were standouts bridget who's going to be an assistant for her this year. She was terrific standout pitcher at CS you last year. Taylor and Haley. The other two girls Chris's girls, standouts at cs you all mountain, West conference players, even her brother Luc was an outstanding baseball player was drafted by the Kansas City royals. So this the Hutton clan is an unbelievable group Chris herself the coach Eighty, nine, ninety, she was at cs you when they were twelfth nationally. So this group, the Hutton clan that's going to be coaching the bulldogs coming off a state championship maybe the Best Coat Young coaching staff around wow it's a family affair to be sure I, mean what an incredible backstory there we have no kidding note and you're absolutely you took the words right out of my mouth I mean it is. A family affair, and if you're talking about softball families in the northern Colorado area, none bigger than this. So it's going to be fun. We'll talk about them twenty six and two dogs last year they were the new kid on the block last year. But I'll tell you what in the state tournament you wouldn't have known that they were so good and they look like they'd been there a million times. They have most of the same cast of characters back they lose a great one and care McFarland but I'll tell you the Delaney winneke when it keeps coming back Andy Padilla Ashland NAP we're gonNA talk tonight to a of players Keeley Kern Alexi Sanchez so. We've got the the Hudson. We've got the players I mean this this group, they can absolutely go win another title. So yeah, that's what I was. Just you just took the words right out of my head, my mouth, this morning great minds think alike, of course, Clark. I was GONNA ask you. They're going to be in the hunt again as sounds like definitely. Yeah and this is the best area for softball up here. This is what's so fun and Cova throws curve balls. I get that right now would be looking at football if it were a regular year but you know count your blessings now get to highlight girls sports softball in this case, and this is a hotbed for softball. So you've got the Patriot League the best conference in the state eaten will be there. Of course, disturbing will be there this. This could be a great group as Christian looks pretty good. Going forward I tell you what we might see as we did last year, the final four was made up of four. A Patriot league teams including the brush beat diggers. So we might see a replay of that again this year the best conference, the best teams we get to watch the softball stater. Universities biggest rivals now you mentioned eating yeah that's a long time rivalry. Yeah I mean you can count that in any sport Gail. It's if you if you usually if you ask a plat valiquette or eaten kid who's the team you love to be they say the other one and that's the way it goes up here. The interesting thing for softball Strasbourg was such has been such a powerhouse that they're the team that everybody wants to knock off their in your conference. So that sets up as another rivalry in the in the schedule. For the university bulldogs but this is going to be fun sixteen game schedule. So it's an abbreviated schedule everything kind of sharing cove here is abbreviated. So even when we get to football come the end of February beginning of March, that's going to be a seven game schedule instead of the regular eleven or twelve. So everything is kind of different but I'll tell you what what's not different is the teams that that have a chance to win a state championship in the University of bulldogs or at the top of that list. Data thirteen days thirteen teams a training camp coverage tonight on thirteen ten. KFI, way from five to six powered by PDC. Energy in our day sponsor a love. This dirty Dan's girl is dirty Dan's out in Lasalle. They're just great. 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JD Wicker

The Darren Smith Show

16:24 min | 3 months ago

JD Wicker

"Text messages coming up in about fifteen minutes seven, zero, four, seven zero first word of the tax X T R, a extra thirteen sixty to pay your bills. One more chance, today could win. A thousand dollars just listened for the nationwide keyword tax than you can win. Instantly. Get all the contest times now. Sports S. DOT COM. Your next chance to win coming up in the next hour. It's brought to you by Yvo. Turf Start Your landscaping transformation today with our friends at Yvo TURF USA DOT COM. Joining us now. And as everybody is dealing with the impacts of Cova, did professionally and personally athletic directors right now. Wow, what a position to be in the athletic director at San Diego State is jd wicker. He's joining us on this Monday afternoon. Jd, Darren thank you very much for taking the time. Absolutely, happy to dion and hope all is well with Darren Smith and Mari jamming and everybody else. We appreciate that I know that. At least I want to start by asking one world. Piece of news. Jd in that would be about a timeline. We heard of in mission. Valley sounds like early less than a month's time. Are we serious like in a less than a month's time? We might see a fence up around the mission valley locations. Stadium. Yeah, we're We're ready to go as soon as we get the keys, the contractor is. Ready to get started, we've got all the pieces in place. We just need the keys and we will begin construction. Outside citing is that even given the circumstances here in some of the stuff that we're about to talk about which who knows. But how exciting is that just to think about? After this long process here that you guys will start putting up fencing here in less than a month's time, fingers crossed. Yeah I mean. It's been a long three and a half year process to get where we are and it is. Exciting to to think about things on the horizon, and a stadium and fall of twenty twenty two. That will open and. You know hopefully by that time we're through all of the the fog of Tova nineteen that we're dealing with right now. We're GONNA open up a phenomenal building. That's going to be great for the entire community, and it's really going to be good for San Diego State football. Well JD obviously the governor today had further announcements about different types of industries and operations that had to take a temporary pause some of this. We've already heard of throughout the afternoon. I wonder. How are you feeling right now as we're just chatting on this Monday? How are you feeling about college athletics in the fall? You know obviously things have changed a lot in the last couple of weeks for you know four weeks ago, probably much more positive about the opportunity to play this fall obviously. The numbers are not trending in a good direction. We're GONNA continue planning for the process of playing in the fall and then the next couple of weeks. We'll obviously have to make some decisions because you know. We're getting to that point where it's a go no go. On all the things you need to do to get ready for seat. And when you say that would be able to explain to us how the protocols work because I think as I've said last week on the radio. One of the things I think that adds to confusion. Jd is you get a lot of sports? Reporters people who are in sports media who might be very very well sourced inside of sports, but these decisions are coming from university chancellors, school presidents, etc, so so, how are these decisions? Being made here moving forward with specific regard to the future of sports, the immediate future of sports. Yeah, mapping on it starts at the very top, and that's going to be. The governor of California is going to weigh in on. You know what we're GONNA do. It comes down to the specific county that you're in. It's also going to be what you know your president. wants to do your board of trustees, especially as you start talking about yeah repopulation protocols, but then once you get into competitive season There's GONNA be a testing protocol that's required for any in in season sport, and that'll be something that you know. We'll have to talk to our opponents, or are you going? Going to follow this, you know minimum testing guidelines, and if they're not gonNa, you know, follow that then that becomes a problem with US potentially playing that game You know pieces like that, so and you know again it's not we're not going to rush to a decision today when you know, we can't wait a couple of weeks to make a more informed decision. Jd wicker joining us so when you say it that way when you say we're not going to rush to any sort of decisions last week, the big ten did make a decision that was followed Friday by a decision out of the pack twelve. What was your thought? And what's your reaction specifically on the PAC? Twelve cents that impacts you. UCLA was scheduled to come down on September nineteenth and play. It S TCU stadium. What were your thoughts when you saw what was happening in different parts of the country with different leagues? Well, we you know had heard rumblings at the PAC. Twelve was probably headed that way. The big ten deciding when they did that was a surprise was surprise to everyone. No one knew they were going to announce that when they did. Again, we heard the PAC. Twelve was headed that way I mean I understand You know one of the conversations that you know. Someone else shared with me that they had had with the PAC. TIN representative. Is They just? They wanted to be able to control. All of the testing protocols and all of the different pieces that would go into being able to compete. and. Knowing that, you know they have non conference competition across the gamut of all the different conferences. It just didn't make sense to piecemeal that into so disappointing. Because I think our testing protocol would have probably been the same at UCLA but we'll continue to work with Ucla and what that looks like I mean. If fall gets delayed, the spring there might be an opportunity to play that game then or you know we. We bump it out into future years. We've already got at least one home at home with UCLA in the future, so we'll have that conversation with Martin German the new ad there and we'll. We'll figure something out. I'm not overly concerned with that. I am disappointed. I was really disappointed because it would have been a huge crowd so knowing that it was shrunk down. It probably doesn't hurt as bad as it would have. Jd wicker is the athletic director in San Diego. State, and you said if fall gets delayed. Is there any sense J. d. not percentage unless you feel comfortable doing that sort of stuff which I'm guessing you do not, but that word I if fall gets delayed How much is the conversation about what to do with false sports, not just football, obviously men's and women's soccer and volleyball. There's a lot that goes into that. How much of the conversations now about what to do with all the fall sports, not just reacting to what's going on out of the pack, twelve or the big ten. I mean obviously. There's a lot more discussion about it. Just based on all of the numbers across the country. I mean I. I didn't realize today. Somebody told me Mexico and basically canceled off all sports for their high schools You saw the superintendent The Dallas School district say he didn't think they play football this fall and I mean Texas canceling fall. Football or football is akin to the NFL canceling football. Football if you really think about it, so the Patriot League the Ivy League canceling all their false sports, so there's obviously a lot more discussion about it again. We're GONNA. Make the appropriate decision at the appropriate time, and we know that we have a little while longer on you know. Do We delay the start we postpone completely. Those are decisions that are going to be made in the next three to four weeks. Jd wicker And I think that some of the reporters and we've talked about Kris Fowler today. Who for many people as the face of college football? On Saturday nights and Forever Doing College Game Day Paul. Finebaum of you're in the south. That, they're using terms like inevitable in fatalism, etc, and again I mean. I swear, jd I'm not trying to get you to to break here and tell us something. But I wonder if you sort of feel like like some of the things that were being discussed or or inevitable for the mountain west or for San Diego State University for College football and college athletics as a whole. I. I mean again. It's obviously all things on the table right now and like I said earlier, there's probably I'm less optimistic than I was three or four weeks ago. but again it's it's one of those. Is it delaying until the end of September? which basically the big ten has now done going to an eight or nine games scheduled the SEC. The big twelve in the ACC. Basically said they're going GONNA wait till the end of July to figure out what they're doing. so yeah I think. Anybody would feel that way. Just based on the news across the country I, mean everybody you know different states or shattering records for a number of positive tests. YOU KNOW I! Look at it, hospitalizations and I see us being impacted I mean that's a bigger issue. How's your health community handling all of that, so we'll just. Keep watching what's happening nationally will keep discussing athletic directors amongst the Mountain West Conference Com. Commissioner Thompson having regular conversations with commissioners across the country. and we'll see what happens. It's interesting because what makes college sports so unique and one of the things that I really love about college sports is that you get these different conferences, which is a totally different structure? Let's say the NBA. We were talking about the NBA earlier today that all the NBA teams thirty of them they go into a bubble united soccer league major league baseball right like there's a governing body commissioner, but at a time like this. Jd, what is it like seeing that different conferences? Different Leagues Make Different decisions. I would think that that's. What would it be better if there was one person speaking on behalf of the entire sport, or do you think that this system right now? Given the circumstances that you know the big ten out of the Midwest. Perhaps out of the South PAC twelve. You all as the mountain West Conference. How is it? How hard is it just to see this thing operating on different schedules and with different decisions? But I mean that is one of the challenges and I was having this discussion with. Our President's chief of staff the other day being a membership organization You know if you think about all three divisions over a thousand institutions at the. Division One level there's three hundred and sixty different, some odd institutions so getting everybody to come together and have. The same the same idea of how you want to move forward, I mean that's been something that's been discussed. You think about an Il cost of attendance all these other pieces. It's really hard to get that group together when there's not. A commissioner that is Kinda helping lead that or dictate that it's very hard for a President Ammar to do something like that, so and you've got the conferences and NCWA football is unique in that you know the. The structure of NCW football is not necessarily inside the CW like a basketball is where the basketball tournament, and all that or controlled by the NCAA Double A. The College Football playoff controls the. Controls, the playoff system, and the conferences control the TV contracts, and those types of things, so it's it's a very unique system. It does make it difficult when different people have different agendas to all come together so yeah, that's that's definitely been a challenge I mean you saw the big ten none of the other power? Five commissioners had any idea the big ten. What's GonNa make that announcement actually? I, mean and they're. They're not shy about talking about how blindsided! They felt by the big ten in. Do you have any opinion like why why in your opinion would something like that happen? I know you can't speak for them, but man I mean. Is it just going to be like that where everybody's GonNa SORTA unilaterally. Just make their own announcements as they see fit. You know I think you. You may see some collaboration between the FCC and the because they have. You know last week of the college football season. You have four ACC SEC matchups that are very important. Interstate rivalry games but beyond that I. Don't know that you'll see a lot of collaboration there, and that's just kind of how it is frustrating You know your listeners who've been in San Diego while Bob Moose Burger. who used to be a senior associate here now? They Athletic Director Bowling Green basically. Put out a statement after the big ten did that and basically said you know. Why can't we all work together for the good of everybody, but just kind of how it is today, I love the change. Did you get a heads up about the about the PAC twelve or did you have to read that or hear that on extra thirteen, six, hundred eighty, or or how did you find out that that? In fact, you guys were impacted by that leaks decisions. Again I think as I said earlier. We heard rumblings that it was going to happen and then I had a conversation with mark, Jarman, the AD. At Ucla. Probably Twenty minutes before anything League or The formal announcement was made, but again it was just concerned. Confirming something that we pretty much already knew was done. And last thing for you J.. D. would be. What sort of time line are you all working on? We know that last time we chatted There was a schedule for when camp was going to begin. I don't know that that they're pause. Button has been pushed in any regard. But what sort of timetable are you guys at Santa? Cruz state working on as relates to college, football and other fall sports. Well we're. We've got the ball back in town. Working chain to do work outside. Yeah early before it gets too hot. Kids are happy to be back. We're happy to have them back allows us to. You know we're paying for their housing. We're paying to feed them. they have ready access to you know doctors and our athletic trainers, so we feel like we've got them in the best position to be successful and to stay healthy They're happy to be around their teammates again. So we're you know we're working through that voluntary period we get to you know the first mandated period I. Believe Is July thirteenth or fourteenth. There were allowed to start doing a little more with our other sports. Men's soccer. We're actually backing them up a little bit because they play in the PAC twelve, so they're season probably won't start to mid to late. September now so. We're kind of backing them up to bring them. In women's soccer and volleyball. Starting to come in is their seasons with start mid August. If we start on time, so we're It's nice to see some kids back and get some workouts in, and they're happy to be back. Jd wicker. We appreciate it. Thank you again i. know some of this. I can only imagine the the. Frustration of trying to piece this together. and it ain't easy. We appreciate you taking the time to join us today. Best of luck to you. Guys and we hope this all works out for the best. Appreciate the time and you and Marty Gem. Stay healthy, and I look forward to talking to. Jd wicker, athletic director, sending state. Thank you on that. Yeah, and I think about PAC twelve for men's soccer, and what that means, and that's being backed up just a little bit as well. So. It's it's a lot to lot to deal with when you're sort of figuring out who all you can have even on campus, and how this looks and how this works when we come back your text messages seven, zero, four, seven zero first word of the tax X. X T R A that's coming up next on extra.

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