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"This is travel with rick steves. We're talking with martin to lend its from northern wales talking about snowden in the area around northern wales where you've got the slate culture you got the tallest mountain in wales and he got plenty of opportunities to enjoy it as a traveler are is radio. At rick steves dot com and bj mackinaw illinois has emailed us and martin bj rights with a limited time for our first trip to the uk. Our family of four which includes two. Teenagers can't hit every park to the extent that we'd like should we see snowdonia. Instead of dartmoor yorkshire dales or the lake district. And should we climb snowdon. Ben nevis well. Snowden is the tallest mountain in wales benevolence the tallest mountain in scotland. First of all dark mar and yorkshire dales are kind of dot is. let's say is not as elevated and the ultra deals are beautiful. Rolling is rolling. It's it's nello leads. it's sort of remote unused flat. I rolling hills. This is farmland mostly but it is just want more beautiful. If you want more hardcore nature. I think i would recommend lake district or snowdonia okay. It's i'd recommend snowdonia. Just lake district is more rounded. Snowdonia is no jagged. I love scotland ben. Nevis is four thousand four hundred and six feet so that's another thousand feet or whatever dot com and because it's so much further north it can get much colder and you have to be aware of after remember the latitude factors but bj's talking about the lake district that's the cumbrian lake district. That's got to the to the south in the north. The south to me is more touristy. I love settling down in the north and comes. They can just plenty there. But a great thing about wales is all the castles. You can't go to north without being just wonder struck by the castle's tell us just briefly as we visit snowden and we drive there and we explore around. We're gonna see castles who built them in. Why well they're two sets. If you like of castles in authorize one set was built by the of gwynedd dear understand. That's the area in which sony a finds itself. Now if you're trying to attack them that you have to. Because there's a mountainous landscape you have to come along mountain valleys and so to defend their homeland. They built their castles in the valleys however gwynedd was conquered by the i in the twelve eight long shanks of brave heart fame so beautifully played by patrick mcquillan. But he wasn't interested in the valleys he wanted to be able to get to. His castles built his castles. Which are the most expensive set of wonderful cast. You've ever seen but his cancels are on the edge of the seat so he could access bring building materials by sea. So the kessels that. I'm thinking of in wales for these big dramatic state of the art in the thirteenth century castles. They would be english. Castles built to keep the indigenous welsh. People down yeah and they would be accessible by. Cc that's what you you don't need to control the countryside just didn't have. These toll holds access by sea. And then you can administer your empire when you've been there you know there's a very narrow coastal strip with mountains on the inside so if you're gonna move in granada north wales you can move either along the coastal strip uh-huh all through the valleys. Well if we build castles at the mouths of rivers on the seashore. You've got the landscape tied. You bottled up the country king edward. He had his castles there. And what are the top three or four castles that conway damaris. I'd say those hard liquor is one is beautiful gorgeous castles. This is travel with rick steves. We've been joined by martin to land of it a guide from northern wales. We've been talking about snowden national park in the cultural and historic wonders nearby martin. Thanks so much for joining us. And i'd like to just close with a moment with you. Just spent three just exhilarating hours. We didn't take the steam train week. Climbed there's a beautiful day. We got to the top of mount snowden you as a welshman tell me what you see and what do you think accept. The view from the top is stunning. You can see ireland photography style. You can see the island man from stops odin. the see is there. The lakes heavily glaciated landscape deep steep narrow valleys digital streams. That run down them and very green. Countryside is not by accident that tom jones sang the green green grass of home. It does rain a bit. But you know it's worth putting on a coat to go out into the she's snowdonia in at that moment. You're in the top of wales literally house martin. Thanks so much. Thank you for having in just a bit. We'll explore the outdoorsy appeal of the laid back former yugoslav nation of slovenia where they'll be celebrating thirty years of independence later this year but i british travel writer. Dan richards looks at the small outposts. You can find scattered around some of the wildest places on earth it's travel with rick steves. Dan richards climbed trees and built forks in the countryside of western england simpson. His enthusiasm for adventure has taken him to untamed landscapes around the world. Some even come with a place to stay and breathtaking view for his book outpost. A journey to the wild ends of the earth. Dan explored the huts cabins and refugees that have sheltered wilderness adventures sport decades. He joins us now. Travel with rick steves to take us to these secret worlds. That you won't find on airbnb. Dan welcome hello. Thank you for having me. You mentioned in your book that it all started with a polar bear pelvis. That sat on your father's desk. Can you explain that. Just before i was born. My dad came back from an expedition that he had done to saul. Bot in the high tick was younger. He was a mountainair and also a bit of an explorer and he went to this year. The most northerly human permanent settlement on earth which is called listened as part of a sort of geology expedition. And when he came home he unpacked his bag. And he had this most amazing almost alien artifact which was this hola pelvis a very old when he found it. So you know he never sort of met back involved but he found this kind of bony frame and brought it home and as you say. Kind of existed has incredible object in his study. So there's the polar bear pelvis and then a photograph of your dead in albert. Yes and he'd stayed with his team In a number of shots up that just very very Rudimentary very fragile. Little buildings where they had stayed for a nato team so when your school friends are going to new york for their summer break you decide to go to fall board and find that shed tell us about how you got into going to these remote outposts. Because you've gone to these places all over the world will in light of my dad's trip. I began to think about these outposts as witness in a way to amazing adventures and travels that people had over centuries really and often the people are gone and the only thing that remains. Is there jumping off. Point and that could be a base like scott space in antarctica or could be become like a lighthouse or fi watching cabin and the paps. These places are now out of use but they still exist as these kind of amazing survivors and memorials to things that went on. I began thinking about that and also the way that often creative people will try and make shed or a spot in space either in the house or in the garden in a way to try and sort of interact with the muses or just create enough kind of cliff space to think and create so I began to combine. That is so important that just loved going to the the remote fjords on the west coast of norway and finding the little tiny cabin where edvard grieg. The great norwegian composer would work and you can see the simple piano he composed on. You can look out the window and see the solitude in the pristine nature and.