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We Are Sorry

Highly Questionable

23:33 min | 1 year ago

We Are Sorry

"Welcome to another episode of highly questionable. I'm doing the Dan Le Batard thing where I start the show before Sarah is ready. Dominique what do you like on the show. Today I'll explain it to you. Why being all time great? NFL Corner Prepares prepares you to be an all time. Great Football Coats it can happen. We all love Dionne must be the money so so. Do we have to apologize Jon. Gruden now raiders beat the chargers twenty six twenty four last night there now one loss behind the chiefs in the AFC west loss column. This is a much better season than we expected me. But does that mean we have to apologize so I think we have to apologize to Jon. Gruden the coach because he's been very good in that capacity this year. The raiders offense has been Exceptional Derek Carr in particular is playing at a level. We haven't seen twenty sixteen Dan when he considered him an. MVP candidate distantly. He's actually been better. Some of that is on account of his improvement. Some of that is because of the scheme a lot of it is because of their offensive line. You certainly saw the contrast last night between those two lines. But I'm not sure we have to apologize to Jon. Gruden the shadow. GM just yet because they've made good use of the assets assets. They acquired by getting rid of Amari Cooper and Khalil. Mack bid obviously be better with those players right. I think the jury is still out on whether those trades worked out for the organization organization in the short term. I think you're right. There were definitely have to apologize for him as a coach because we all thought maybe the game pass them by and we certainly thought that him getting this unprecedented precedent at ten year. One hundred million dollar deal was a little out of nowhere but I think he's proven so far that maybe he's worth it in the fact that he had that long term deal I think suggests that maybe is a good good shadow. GM because he is not setting team up. I agree having those players right now would make them better now. But do you think that that would make them a super bowl contender now. I don't think so I think having the young talent talented place of that sets them up to be real contenders by the time they get to Nevada. which is what I think years planning to do so I think we owe Jon Gruden and all around apology but uh I'm not going to give it to them because I don't say sorry? I actually agree with both of you. I think there's something to be said for what Meena saying. which is you can argue that the draft picks are good but are they Khalil Mack? Good and that's what you would need in order to defend giving away a player like that. But as for Dominique's point I agree. We thought that maybe Jon Gruden was playing the long con. I get to be here for ten years. It doesn't matter if we stink for five of them but they're way ahead of where we thought they might be if he was really approaching it from that long term perspective I think was probably totally somewhere in the middle. We have yet to see whether he can make them a great team but they're certainly much better than we thought. And so far some of the moves we've questioned have at least paid off in the short term way earlier than and we expect it right and that Khalil Mack Trade was roundly mocked at the time but look at these two teams now. Okay Yea Yeah Khalil. Mack is the reason that the bears thing. That's definitely you know what don't degrade your ability to provide quality analysis in order to to try to make the cheap jokes because I'm going to hold that against you forever if you're trying to make the argument that Khalil Mack is the source of the bears concerts. Donna worst team would deal at Sanders Be Smart Coaching Hire for Florida State and NFL network. Report has dion sanders in the running running for the FSU job other reporters are saying. There's no indication that he's actually a candidate but let's have some fun with this prime time and Tallahassee DB taking the reins. Let's go to our resident and by that. I mean defensive back not in the other way that you could read those letters so dominique. Let's say you yes so you asked if it was a smart choice I wouldn't necessarily take a smart choice but I think it will be a unique choice and I don't think it's outlandish because being a head coach in college football is not as much about scheme as it is in the NFL. I think it's a lot about persona SONEX about branding. It's about recruiting sixteen seventeen year old eighteen year old kids who are talented and wanted to be a part of an organization I think we see down in. Lsu everyone knows was that that swamp monster they have down there or drawn is not tactician. But he's good at recruiting and he went and got the often coordinators defense coordinators that he needed I think Dion Sanders is certainly capable of being a head of an organization of that size in in finding the right people to support the organization and they can have more success than they certainly had under. Willie taggart now go ahead and hate on it. I just wondering if you need a towel or you worked up a little bit of a sweat trying to convince yourself there that this could actually work out coach. Oh was a coach. Dominique at the college level before taking a job. There's no reason to believe. The Anders is capable of this ulcers also. Oh no reason to believe. By the way that he'd be willing to go into seventeen year olds living rooms and try to convince them to come to. FSU everyone's assuming he'd be a great recruiter and obviously on paper or he would be alluring but that doesn't mean it would actually work out. Frankly I don't see why he wants to do that right right now. His job is just being dion sanders and being loved for it. You you really think he's going to take on all of this work and responsibility and for what I mean to that point. I think that you're using your logic. That's not the logic that made dion sanders. The greatest quarterback back ever lived like I imagine that looking for another challenge. There's something that would appeal to him and I agree that maybe he has not been a college coach but he has been a coach before. Maybe he's not successful at it but there are a different ways to do this job to do a lot of jobs. They'll everybody's got their different logic. Let me address urologic Dominique which is essentially that he would be a figurehead. Who would be an interesting draw? That's agreed right. People would want to come play for him but he had a disastrous stint as a high school coach not just as a tactician but as a leader of people as a figurehead it was brutal. Money was lost. Physical violence was threatened. There's no reason to presume that he would be able to handle essentially being the CEO of a team. which is what this job would entail? I think this is a terrible idea. I absolutely don't think he should be interested. And I don't think the school should be interested either my bed. I forgot the fact that college. Football coaches are all moral and everything above board chose me. I didn't know that my fault oopsy does it makes sense to you that the NBA find the clippers. Yeah fifty thousand dollars for the Clippers the NBA says doc rivers comment that Kawhi Leonard Quote Unquote feels feels. Great was inconsistent with their report that he needed to sit out because of a knee injury. Slash load management me. I think we all know the truth. Behind why Leonard was sitting. Should they be fined for being honest about it. Yeah I actually think so I mean here's the thing about the load management issue. There's there's no win win for both teams and fans or the business of the NBA. There's no outcome that's going to please everyone and the NBA can't make teams act against their own competitive interest here. We know that this works. We saw it work with Kawhi last season. The only thing they can do is ask teams to shut up about it and trying minimize the issue. And that's not what happened here. Yeah so that's why. I think that the fine was unnecessary because the fine did nothing but draw more attention to it because of what I understand would dock was saying and was he feels great because of the load management so finding him and draw more attention to it is making it a bigger issue. That could potentially go away if you don't talk about it. I think the point that you were making originally Selena. You're kind of alluding to the fact that the interests of the team are in conflict with the interests of the league and that they should have the league is making money and being as entertaining as possible. Interest of the team team is winning championships. And obviously this situation they conflict because there are so many games. And you're right. There's no perfect solution is in the problem has gotten bigger. At least the perception of the problem is bigger than the actual problem is at least so far this season because the names of the people who have had their lows manage so to speak as Kawhi Leonard Russell Westbrook Mogambo and Kyle Korver so. It's really not that big of a problem. We're not missing out on the Braun. Ad Type of guys that we wanNA really see play. Yeah but listen I agree with you dominate. This draws more attention now but this is preventative so that in future. Instances coaches do not conflict with the stories that they're telling about their players. It's a smart move on their part. It's very similar to what they do with tanking. You can hear about trust the process you can watch a team lay a bunch of players that shouldn't be on a G. League roster but as soon as you have a coach or person upper management management flat out. Tell everyone we're not trying come to our games give us money watch us on TV. We're not trying though. Suddenly it becomes a bit different. And I think that's exactly doc what they're doing here. I think it's the in the best interest of everyone when no one addresses that a star is missing coming up next myself stevie. Show now I don't have to spend any time on the college football Internet but it will melt down if that happens as someone who only root for chaos. That is the outcome. I position competition are only available at the physician determines restrictions appropriate full details information. 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S. dot com slash. ESPN five is it. Smart for the chiefs to start. Patrick Mahomes this weekend. You have to a lot of questions Andy Reid now saying that Patrick Mahomes is expected to start Sunday against the titans after practicing fully for the last two days. Dominique think this is a good idea. I mean it's certainly a little bit more risky than I would suggest Patrick Mahomes. But I kinda like it. Honestly with the raiders. Winning last night I think the competition for getting into the playoffs playoffs is getting a little harder in the competition. For getting a first round bye is very very difficult even in a weak AFC and in order to win a super bowl which is what this team's aim is as long as Patrick. Holmes is in that building. They need to get that first. Round by and I think having Padua homes in winning these games put them in a better position even if he's a little hobbled then if they lose him. They're not in that position. They're out of the playoffs or have to play in a wildcard round. I think this is the chiefs. Andy Reid saying the first round Pie really matters perhaps even more then Patrick mahomes being one hundred percent. I'm not sure that that's the right decision. One thing we've learned about mahomes. This season watching him. Play through. Injuries is how important mobility is to his game. I mean statistically Patrick mahomes yards per attempt actually increase proportionally with his speed while throwing it's a tremendous component to get even though we don't think of him as like a traditionally a running quarterback necessarily and it's going to be key to him beating either New England or Baltimore in January. Yeah I agree with me now. I listen we obviously don't know what percent percent he's at. Maybe the point is he looks so great in practice and is completely passed the injury and that's why under read feels comfortable doing this but I'm a lot less concerned about how they fare against titans the team that has a little life with Ryan Tannehill. But it's still just the titans when Matt Moore might be able to get that done then. I am about Patrick. Mahomes what he's going to look like against good teams won it matters. There's more I would be very careful here but as far as we know maybe Andy Reid just feels like he's at one hundred. Stop it with that Matt Moore Talk. I love more as much as in this guy. This is a beautiful story. Oy from scout a few months ago to winning in the NFL and going toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers. But he's still Matt Moore and he was scout a few months ago. Not because he's a franchise quarterback quarterback. He's had a couple good weeks and I think right. Now you're playing with house money. If you think that he's going to continue to do that I also think sometimes you really think you're gonNa miss a superstar and then as it turns out it's really more about this system than it is about the talent and the people that replace that. I'm sorry person that replaces that superstar are actually much better. It does Alabama Lsu tomorrow to make the playoff a huge matchup coming right after the first college. Football playoff rankings. Alabama has been a mainstay mainstays since this new system was put into place but they only have one quality win against Texas am and then after that other teams that are competing for these top spots like Clemson and have a better win. Have more wins against winning teams. Have more wins against power five teams and have an easier schedule going forward so a higher likelihood of going undefeated Dominique. Is there a safety net for Obama if they lose this game. I don't think so outside of just the sheer power of Nick Sabin but the one quality waned as you pointed out against Texas am. They're not even right at this point so I'm not even sure that counts. Quality win their out of conference schedule. Includes Duke is the very toughest opponent that they've had so Daniel Jones which would out dimes suit. So if they go on to win out in the SEC championship. I think they're definitely an they might even be able to win out and lose. Sec Championship and get in. But I don't think they can lose this game him which means they won't get into the SEC and get in. And I think they're going to lose this weekend spicy prediction You guys are right. If they lose lose their path obviously gets very difficult. They don't control their own destiny. But here's what I want to happen. I want them to lose. And then I want Lsu to lose to Georgia in the title game at at which point we will have three SEC teams with a single loss. Now I don't know if you spent any time on the college football Internet but it will melt down in that happened as someone who only root for chaos dot is the outcome I desire. Let me add in. Also you also want Baylor go undefeated and run the table just to make things even more confusing for everybody. Prescription products required online physician consultation and only available if the physician determines prescriptions appropriate for full details and safety information. One of the scariest things that can can happen to a guy. Is that first morning. You wake up you look in the mirror and you start to realize you're going thin up. Top to out of every three guys are going to start losing their hair by the age of thirty five. Thirty five five. You're still a young dude at that point you're GonNa Start Losing your hair then think about it a year from now. It's all gone in. Everybody used to think as soon as you start losing your hair. That's it. It's genetics. 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This is the sixth Grade Football Games. Be Adults never seventy nine who we will See here carrying the rack is we're told three hundred sixty three pounds surprise. The is rocking the princess bride. You could just hang all over him. It doesn't matter he's fours course. I'm sorry Sixth Grade Sixth Grade Yeah. He's pretty impressive athlete. You GotTa get some credit and also credit defense got to stick with it because when I was six grade if six three three hundred sixty pound man. Because that's what that was was running at me. I would get the hell out of the way so those kids are either dumb Tom or tough or both. Maybe they're dumb tough. Someone tells me he's probably GonNa get moved as he gets a little bit older. I don't think there are a lot of six foot three running backs at all not to mentioned three hundred plus found ones at the higher level so I think this is a good show of of effort and that it will probably be repositioned to the offensive line. He making his position move before he gets the league. But I feel like there is some team. That could've used him because he's a big power back very close to go line and maybe they wouldn't have to do this. It makes a big back your bitterness coming through through. Gosh why didn't they just run the ball. Is anyone ever asked you. Why didn't they run it their season? They had not been running the ball short yardage you know what. I'm not doing this again. I'm not doing this again. Do you question if you knew that Wales could do this. So we've got a Beluga whale in the Arctic Ocean. He is with his friend. Apparently let's in this goes and how not really comfortable calling his owner throws uh-huh oh shit I wrote was accurate as Mitchell trubisky aiming thankfully thinking was leading him to Alan Robinson. Got Hands like Dominique the he's also got a forehead like Dominique. Good closing speed though. Look at this bank. Bring it back. Bring Your Brag Dominique. Are you silent because you're upset about my forehead joked the honest listen. That fetching was pretty impressive but I have seen better. Oh so I thought I didn't know you could teach rats out of fettes. Let's that's incredible time to play the game. That just loves to remind Sarah that Mitchell trubisky was drafted before four. Patrick Mahomes this Shawn Watson Chris. McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara. or No. You tell us what's on TV tonight. I will tell you if we're intrigued tonight. At ten thirty PM heating Lakers the heat surprising Jimmy Butler last night. Nine of ten in for thirty in the first half in that game love in the spotlight. Maybe not loving sharing the spotlight so much take a plane. We all should buy malnourished alleged. He is not having it. Is Video Bombs Davin it. You've made it very plain that you don't care what happens as long as it's a win. Is it any more for savor to the Locker Room. Great game go to the please tomorrow. What is it that you don't enjoy about the video sad about them right now? It's about me what's that big. Yes very intrigued. Because while he may be smiling laughing thing. This is just another little in gypsum. Jimmy Butler Malays. That may manifest itself into another blow up with his teammates and asking his way out of Miami so yes. I'm intrigued me because you intrigued. Your full name again appreciate the degree of formality. You're affording me It's really what I deserve. Sara yes I am intrigued by this game of basketball. It shall be fine event. Dominique Foxworth Josh. Of course I three so I I. I'm going to call it the fact that you're Jimmy Butler hater. Because he left your Chicago Bulls France Jimmy. Dean was why are you Jimmy. Butler Malays Malays there As being funny in a man being honest a lot of other players feel the same way when I bought allowed. I don't need you in the back dancing around trying to steal my attention. Let's talk about how awesome I am so I appreciate him for his honesty and his ability ball. But they're gonNA lose to the Lakers. Yeah the Lakers have won six in a row. They are winning with defense winning with the bench winning with their starters winning when a foul trouble This is kind of unbelievable. I don't have anything to say about it. I just thought that that was interesting. You can say that maybe I do have a big forehead but it's not as big as Lebron James's so it's just a sign of greatness Sunday at one PM bills browns okay. Yeah we'll talk about the game in a second but Baker Mayfield changed his facial hair twice during the game and after the game last week and this was his response to all the changes. No the the quarterback said of Movember Mustache Mustache and the original thought for me do handlebars. I was undefeated before Sunday with the Handlebar Moustache. Shaved it off because they didn't deserve it. Okay Baker Mayfield. Sad is so depressing I just wanted to have swagger even when they suck like this is not fun Dominique I guess yes. I'm still intrigued. Because whether they win or lose. There's something about really soaking up all the misery of Cleveland. But I want him to be fiery again see E. Even though you didn't ask me I am also still intrigued. Because I want to know if he's going to run out of hair to cut off because they think they're gonNA lose a lot more game so you can say about a mustache mustache. Maybe we go eyebrows next. May We go hair and we just have a completely bald powder of a quarterback and maybe he'll start throwing the ball to his receivers not the other. TV's TV's Meena. Times are you intrigued. I don't know why used your full name. I appreciate it intrigued by the game. I actually think Baker was kind of right right there right like imagine if he had come out after a loss with a man too and was like you know we'll play better next week we we would all be making fun of him. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 4

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

23:56 min | 2 years ago

ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 4

"All right time to peel back. The pigskin Andy I'm looking at the games coming up this week ten in the NFL before we get. So what's coming up any last night? The Panthers get run out by the Steelers fifty two to twenty one bigger markup on the Steelers markdown on Carolina. I you know, what it's hard even say because that game spun out of control in various ways, right? Yeah. You had like fumbles on on returns. And things like that six pick six I mean Cam is always going to end up at the center of a loss like that. Because he's Cam Newton. And he's polarizing, but you look at him going like, well, he wasn't a problem in that. Like it like, he's not problem for returner fumbles. I mean, you know, he's it's his fault for a pick six, but. It was just a weird game. It felt like Carolina was the third best team in the NFC. I don't feel that way anymore and even good teams will get beat badly. Every once in a while, I get that. It's the NFL, but that was pretty ugly and Pittsburgh here we are middle of November. And they're on top of the division. And they're going to be one of the favorites in the AFC going into the playoffs. It's kind of what they do. Yup. I next game. I. I. The Rams hosting the Seahawks. The Rams coming off their first loss of the season. I know that they have Russell Wilson. I know that it's a division game. But this feels like the Rams have some unfinished business from last week in the Seahawks are gonna pay for it. Yeah. I mean, this is important for them. A because you want to make sure that you you choke out every bit of life that the Seahawks. Could we have within that division? But also keep going just bad people. I on the ball had bad people, man. I on the ball all of you. People very good now soda, man. Come on. Let's go. But but in the meantime in meantime, too, though, this team has not lost two games in a row under Sean McVeigh and the Seahawks on the road. Don't seem like a team. That's good enough to break that street when the Rams were bad. They played Seattle. Pretty well. The Aaron Donald gives Russell Wilson all sorts of trouble. I think that the most interesting point for the Rams is what is Marcus Peters. Look like what does that secondary? Look like after giving up forty five points off, Marcus Peters. We know is very unhappy. At the way, he's being treated as part of that seventy two yard touchdown pass given up to Michael Thomas next game raiders are hosting the chargers up in Oakland. The chargers two losses. You know, we talking about the Rams their one loss is to a really good saints team. The two losses that the chargers have to Kansas City and to the Rams they're not the patriots. They're not the Steelers. They're not the chiefs. But they're probably the next team on that list in the AFC. The the problem that chargers have in terms of getting the credit that they deserve as a good team. A they're playing in the shadow of the Rams for being honest. The Rams are just a more exciting team to watch. They've more organic homegrown fan base. But also to the chargers always make it look sodium hard. Yeah. Like, they never just beat down a team like the everything comes down to the fourth quarter. Everything looks like this epic struggle everything you can see like the look on Philip rivers his face like guys seriously. Like, we're doing this again, really? Is you hear this all the time? You gotta hit rock bottom before you could start to bounce back was last week for the raiders against the Niners where they got blown out by a one win team rock bottom. Is there any bounceback or is this just the worst human football rock Lada, man, you know, how many players are calling Jon Gruden cell phone because they're dying to be part of this selling it to be. Ray was the last time you picked up the phone without knowing who is on the other end. Nobody calls he calls anymore. Your cell phone. It's called a phone. It's two thousand eighteen it's a phone you the only time you need to be more specific as if it's not a cell phone. It ain't a landline. All right next game. The cowboys. This is the Sunday night in the Cowboys on the road to the eagles. And somebody's got to win the NFC east. I guess the eagles gonna chances anybody Washington's leading the division. But this is a chance for the eagles at least to get back into that conversation as a team that's going to go to the playoffs if nothing else. Well, I mean, you you would hope they'd get to the playoffs. They gave up a first round pick in order to bring in Amara who hanging up both stuff know. So I mean, it's it's very important one the whole NFL trading receivers. And everyone was like, yeah. I'll give you a I know they were giving up seconds and thirds, but that just speaks to the urgency that the Cowboys feel that it'd playoffs or this to pity rush. Hey, Jerry Jones knows what he's doing. Is there a scenario where they blow out Jason Garrett before the end of the season or even if it gets bad, even if they only win another game or two along the way does he get to the NFL Jason Garrett? I believe got his job when. They wait until eight. So so I almost don't want that. Because then you just going to hire another. Yes man to take over. And if we end on a high no owed he did a good job with higher him. So I guess I want him to last the end of the season. Just so we can get a real coach. But I don't know what might be when he gets another extension if he's really listening to Jerry, really telling Jerry. Yes. Low like, you Sean said, and he let us know all the assistance or on one year deal. So the whole banning and block the whole house. When once we Philly any good Philly doesn't feel like it did the more the further we get from that Super Bowl. It. Feels like Philly was the hot team at the right time made all the right decisions at the right time that that wasn't a great team. It was just a great run. I think it matters that they didn't have to play the Rams in the playoffs. And the Rams got there for most of those guys had never been in the playoffs before. And I think it showed against Atlanta. I think if they could replay that game again the following week. They would beat Atlanta and they were capable being anyone in the NFC including the eagles. Are this is a weird one because this is a team with a good record who I think is bad against the team with a bad record who I think potentially could still be a part of the NFL in November and beyond our excuse me, December and beyond the dolphins on the road to play the Packers. The dolphins are a playoff team. If it happened today. The Packers are not. But it still feels the Packers of the team that we might be talking about come Christmas. Well, I mean, what are the odds in terms of an extended conversation between Aaron Rodgers and Ryan tannehill like if you had to guess who is going to be more capable of creating conversation through week seventeen boys. Zahren his it's been Osweiler. I mean, that's my point. Okay. There you go. There's my point right there. I don't even realize who's currently playing quarterback for the dolphins. Because who cares? They're not good enough that you need to know their quarterback Keyshawn cares about the dolphins. Here's his nose. Still funny to me, it is funny next one. The chiefs are back at home. They're taking on the Zona cardinals who are the other candidate for team in the league. Patrick Mahomes is on schedule to throw fifty two touchdown passes. He might get there. This Sunday against the the cards. He is really fun to watch man. Patrick Mahomes is so much fun to watch play. I can't wait to see what that looks like next week in Mexico City against the Rams. There's nothing fake about it. You know what I mean? Sometimes guys will show up. And it's okay. For instance, Ryan Fitzpatrick shows up, and it will go a month. And you're thinking, oh, okay. He's a really good NFL quarterback. And then poof, he's back to being the other guy. There's nothing fake about this. This is legit. Andy Reid is legit that team is legit. He's going to put three touchdowns on you just about every week. We've also seen too with Ryan Fitzpatrick. The these spurts of him looking like a great quarterback. And then regressing back to the guy who would be better served backing up your team with Pat. Homes. If nothing else we haven't even seen the opportunity for regression. No like or like, the idea that okay is Patrick Holmes related to John home. Hey, home, Patrick Mahomes. Keep going battered Mohme's or does Shawn wa- DeShaun Watson last year, every wondered okay, data fluke was that a fluke before he ended up wasn't an ACL tear. What happens with most quarterbacks? Real talk is the second year after that amazing year. There's regression it's happened to Cam twice. But especially early in your career like you say to Shawn Watson the second year. Whatever. Bam. You comes back. You know, who it didn't happen to let me think let me think of Kurt Warner. Yeah. But at this thing enough Goff Jared Goff Jared Goff popped last year. Went from being terrible to really good. And he's at an even better. Shawn Watson actually after a slowest start. He's been picking up. He's top ten in yards this year. He's he's having a good season. You'd like you're talking about two with the Rams their one loss being to the saints. And the chargers their one loss be or their two losses being to the chiefs into the ramps. The chiefs one loss is on the road and Foxborough to Tom Brady and the patriots. They're they're that close to being undefeated next week in Mexico City could be a Super Bowl preview, you sure because Keyshawn had. A news alert ready say the game was relocated to where. Oh, New Mexico. They're going to go play. So black result come on new show. India I need to know your facts, I carry man. All right next game the mid and the Browns Baker Mayfield is a Browns quarterback or at least as looked like since the interesting start at the beginning. And the falcons don't look now they've won three in a row. They've got a great quarterback. They're playing better sneaky sneaky longshot playoff team. Long shot. But I could see it happening. I mean, they're like you were talking about before like the NFC east like it feels like anybody could win it. That means by definition. There are three teams work. I mean the wildcard mix. Well, so, but look at it this way there the NFC west isn't getting a second team, the NFC east isn't getting a second team the south probably go get a second one. And then you look at the north. I don't know if there's a second team coming out of the north either you might get three from the south again in the falcons could be that thirteen. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, they they've been through this before. And that helps like when you've got experience, and you've got guys who understand what it means to pace yourself through a season and how to deal with the pressure as you're trying to get a playoff race that stuff matters next game patriots on the road in Tennessee to take on the titans. We've talked about the Steelers the pats got off to a one and two star Jacksonville got them. And it felt like okay. Maybe finally, this is the same old thing here. They are. They've lost two games. They look like the best team not only in their division. In. But it right alongside the chiefs. The best team in the conference. I will say this though by the patriots. 'cause they're obviously still a great team. And they obviously still find ways to win. They don't make it look as easy game in and game out at least this season as they had in previous seasons through like you watch them against buffalo where they are grinding out win how mortar or how old in slow does crock Luke now, he's a part time player at this point. Oh, my he's he's run you see running on he'd be like, Jeremy shockey and editor Elliott now. He's just kind of grinding and laser turns out if you need three or four surgeries a year, it affects your body. Okay. To say it's a sign that you may not be a spry as you want. He's not a great athlete anymore. He's bigger than everybody's still. So he can still make a play once in a while especially on in the red zone. But the the days where he'd stretch you out that's gone. Gronk andy. And then in the meantime, I don't know if if gronk regression affects the overall offense and options for Brady, or if this is just a matter of Brady getting older, but he doesn't dominate game in and game out the way he used to. I mean, really he he spends a lot of time going James white. He does all those are dump off pass. He does and they are. But every time I watched them. I never get the sense that they're about to lose the game. No. And that's that's the thing. It's that they're not just okay. You turn it on. It's the third quarter nut by three touchdowns but turn on third quarter. And you know, they're gonna win. My my viewpoint on this is skewed as somebody who panicked draft Brady in the third round of his fantasy draft way way earlier than he needed to. So I'm probably more critical of Brady's play than any neutral person. Would be right. The Lakers have a couple of games this weekend. How important is it to Luke Walton? We'll get into it next. Chris so twenty nine years ago today Nayna. Well, yeah. Kind of you know, what happened twenty nine years ago today? No, andy. No, actually, I don't. I thought that's what I should. This speech or the wall came down. Well, not. The long extra layer. You know, how this goes? I know you studied politics at the Rancho rural runners, maybe the, you know, the wall came down twenty nine years ago. We know the speech was a year before I get it. Andy, don't say, no, no, no, no. I'm upset at myself for not just throwing it out there because that's what I thought the song related coach instincts. I know Nayna shoot your shot. That's what all two in the morning. No bar Nayna Nayna. That's her best song. Yeah. Yeah. Is their best song know the yet? Another is. As a multi layered and diverse. We gotta look it up. Put the hurt dumb Savall who's double CD greatest hits a lot of filler, by the way. Really Andy wanted to correct me the minute. He walked in today about I said Patti Smith in the six o'clock hour Hetty. There's a big difference between Patterson the first thing he had to say. Thank you, find it. Amusing screen, Sean. Liquors have to this weekend against two teams Atlanta's genuinely bad in Sacramento. We'll be bad because it Sacramento, they're good. They're fake. They're the dolphins of the Western Conference at the moment. This could go one of two ways if the Lakers win, it's you know, what? Because whatever right now they've won three or four if they win and all of a sudden they've won five of six and everybody. Okay. Cool. You know, they got through it the adjustment period. Lebron the moment that magic and and Luke had their meeting. It's in the rear view mirror. We're all good. If they lose one or both of these. You wonder what it looks like Monday morning. I mean, I I think we're just going to be in a state of perpetual, panic, no matter what's happening. They could be on a twelve game winning streak, and people will be panicking about what it all means for all of the discord that's been going on in the, you know, slow start. If you want to call it that they are two games out of the four seed right now, they are two games behind west is bunched up behind behind which is predictable in Denver. Hell they're only four and a half games behind Golden State. Yeah. For the one seed you look at it though any so Sacramento in Atlanta this weekend. Then like you mentioned they have there. Ninth game of the season against Portland next week. And then after that Orlando Miami Cleveland than Utah. And then Orlando again, we're entering the software Moyer schedule. So they could stack some wins. And all of a sudden you turn around and instead of being five and six they're eleven and seven, and you're feeling a lot that we if you do get cracked by Denver at Denver, which is the one after that. It's not a here we go again. It's it looked. They do to lose one little even a team like the Lakers. That's figuring itself out. They've, you know, more than any team that in the league that anybody actually cares about Dave have continuity issues. No team in the league is dealing with even Boston having to reintegrate, Kyrie Irving and Gordon Hayward, and they were doesn't look good. Well, and it has not been easy, even they don't have the same continuity issues as the Lakers have. I mean, the Lakers have piece this thing together. Brand new they've basically stayed five hundred during it but this stretch coming up with their. Schedule. Softens they have to take advantage of the Indy. It's not just that. It's brand new. And it is it's brand new with LeBron which is a whole nother layer on like, even if when the Celtics went out and got Kyrie Irving who's a great player. It's you you you have to get used to them. There's a adjustment period because he's got the ball on his hands a lot because he's I get, but it's not LeBron because it's not just the basketball part that LeBron brings it's the the entire focus of the NBA. The basketball universe is on your organization when the Broncos up that only maybe Kevin Durant might bring a little bit of that. If Anthony Davis moved to a lesser degree. But when LeBron shows up every NBA eyeball is on you every single night, you need to get used to that Braun is the most powerful and most important athlete in North American sports. Like, that's not an overstatement. He is depending on how you feel about some of these global soccer guys, Alex wood or Alex would zoo Botts taking it all the. Way back like, these are the this is the list of the most powerful people the most important people in sports and LeBron is at the top of it. So it's you know, it's going to be a lot like when Kobe was in his prime with this team. I covered those teams everything was a big d this. You're the right person asks. So you were there when Kobe was winning championships? And Kobe was Kobe in full Koby. My my first year covering the team was the year that Phil Jackson came back. Okay. So that was Kobe reunited and was the first year of the smush Kwami does yours this feel that is the intensity of attention the same less more. What could compare the two it's a little bit different in the sense of you know, with with Kobe. He was in his prime. So there was this question of okay are the Lakers going to be in a position that they can maximize Kobe Bryant's prime as opposed to are the Lakers in the position of being able to maximize the backside of LeBron James's pry. There was also that storyline to of Kobe looking to do this without shack. So there was this personal urgency attached to this for reasons that I found very stupid, but they were there. Kobe had the for a lot of people. Kobe had to win his fourth championship in order to win his first. And I always thought that was really stupid. But that was the reality that will become salt like that. Yeah. He did. He always Kobe did see it that way. So in that sense. It's different because LeBron has arrived here. He may not be a made Laker. But he's a made guy. Lebron is a made guy at this point in his career. So it's it's different in terms of the way people look at the teams, but it's the same in the sense that everything and I mean, everything gets hyper scrutinized death. It's you mentioned it that Kobe was in his prime. The LeBron is at the end of his prime and logic will tell you that it has to be true. He's in his sixteenth year in the league. The number say. He's what he's always been that there. There's literally no drop off to what it is that he's done numbers wise. And this is this is where I it's kind of a parallel roads that they're his prime and the Laker window are the same and it's a four year contract, and you soom by the time we get to the end of that for your that. He's no longer the best player in the league. Now. I don't think he falls out of the top five or ten for sure. Thirty eight. I'm sure that he's not still in the top two or three because there's no indication that it's gonna stop anytime soon. None. No. I mean, there's no indication of nothing else that he can be that offensive got defensively, we see what the miles lead up to you know, you can see where it takes toll because he he has to coast a lot defensively during these games, and it's understandable with everything that he's put on his body. But that's the difference is, you know, Kobe in his prime defensively was a beast like Kobe was one of the best defenders in the league in his prime. So Raj in the only one that's upset at the Cowboys. There's a seven year old Dallas that has thoughts on Jerry Jones. We'll get into that. Plus a classic bit of the day. That's next happy birthday French Montana. That's your wheelhouse. No hands. Scarface have some coming out. More of a Belgian Wyoming guy. French montana. What that's this. I'll take your word for happy birthday, Mr. French Montana once with khloe, correct? And he khloe. Yeah. So seven year old wrote Jerry Jones a letter said, quote, you have made my mom very mad because we suck every game day. She's yelling at the TV and turns off the game. That was a a young man named Ryland in Dallas writing to Jerry Jones. Have we ever seen what Raja's handwriting looks like in crown? We sure that this was seven year old right to run down in crayon. Here's how I know. It's true. Because a twelve year old Travis Rodgers may or may not have written a very similar letter to deter Brock when deeter Brock was the quarterback of the Rams in the mid nineteen really. And it was very explicit in my displeasure implying quarterback for the Rams. I wrote the whole thing out. You know, did the whole thing and went to my mom and said, hey, I need to mail this to the Rams, and she looks to meet she says what what is that? And I said it's a letter I wrote to Brock. Why did you do? That because I hate him. And I think he's terrible. And I want him to know how I feel about this. How do I mail it to the to the Rams, and my plumber to me said, what's the matter with you? Give me that. And she I'm assuming tore it up and threw in the trash, but I understand Rylance frustration. I wrote a very similar note to she wants to play and mail that herself she she could have done it for sure. Now's time not data Brock for the classic bit of the day. I'll give you a much they're based in LA. One. One of these huge Laker fan. Whoa. Two of them are not one. Oh, that's right too. But one like show didn't do a blog or one shows up to the game there you guys can't play series. Here. Sounds like bed not lily Knepper food group to do the guess before the song is over. It's a food that it's a food that if you're handling you shouldn't go to the restroom or you might be working girl. Like, what are you doing behind? My back just burning the seafood restaurants. All right here. We go. What is the dog? Let me try one more. If you take your dog to the vet to get him dips to get rid of a certain thing that's on his skin here. Getting rid of what? What is that? Right. Talking about. Oh, all right here. Our mark. All right. There are bugs and that gives on animals this particular bothers dogs. Going the other one the other one that's one in a band. The the members of the flea fleas Rabanne is fleet playing. He's my idol and base. Birthday Anthony Keates. Yes. Chili pepper and hot chili peppers. This. I said. Dogs event have nothing to do. 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Turnin' Up the Heat

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Turnin' Up the Heat

"Grasping last night in the grass call any play be an reviewable how the NFL messed that up and also. The urine trouble series. And this panels in trouble George Sodano's here to address all their final stakes. Let's go. George George George Eight Greenbaum. Ms My Donald, he coats her missile. I didn't Miss I saw of. Bit. Doubtful Bio questionable for a game for none of us thought was going to be pivot open. Now it is if game three could happen. Is there any impossible for Jimmy Butler by I don't know Georgia want to start with you. I'm watching to come out swinging what's the number one thing Miami can do tonight to encore Sunday's performance and what's the number one thing the Lakers need to do tonight to ensure game three doesn't happen again. Tony, the number one thing I think for the heat is health and I think that there is a real possibility that we see Bam out of bio today and I think that also coincides with what the Lakers need to do. Because Anthony Davis is the most important player for the Lakers, in this series and that's wild to say in a series where you have Lebron James He has the biggest impact on this team I think because he is a mismatch even for someone. Like Bam, he's basically what Bam wants to be down the road. I would also not be totally surprised and wouldn't rule out if Goran on drudge gives it a try in this series and maybe even tonight, so I think he'd have found something Tony particularly their offense the last two games over one hundred, twenty offensive rating. Their half court offense has really given the Lakers a lot of trouble the worst to half court performances defensive defensively for the Lakers, this postseason has been games. Did. Let me bring Israel Gutierrez here in Miami. What do you think the heat found offensively Well I hate to be that person because I also picked finals MVP as Bam out of bio but Bam not being there really opened up the paint for Jimmy and if you watch a lot of drives and if he drives to the side, we're Dunkin Robinson is on the floor that does not helping. So it's gotta come from the other side and Jimmy's really good either draw fouls are seeing. You know if he's got space going ahead and finishing. So I think that Miami offense, what do you say? Baio over. All right we don't need you. I'm just saying that they'll win a different way when it comes. If Bam out of bio comes back, they will obviously be a little bit better defensively Anthony Davis. But heck and that last game they got him in foul trouble he wasn't even on the floor. So offensive, the heat can replicate that weather band plays or not. Defensively that's going to be the issue Anthony Davis is the man. That turns this series. If he can play like his normal self, the Lakers are going to win if Miami does something to alter his stats and nobody, you don't have another Markeith Moore's five eleven three point shooting gave them. The Lakers are probably going to lose again for guys. Sola. We'll bring you in here. The one thing Miami needs Tuesday night one thing the Lakers I need to do. Well getting back will be used, but unlike my friends from who made their careers in Miami, I will focus on Lebron James that helped Miami win their last two championship also remember him. He was the best he was the best player, go fire and The court tonight. All right. First of all the Lakers have lost three games in the playoffs. Game, they've they've won by at least twelve points. Lebron Anthony Davis had a total of fifteen field goals. Thirteen turnovers that will not happen again can Jimmy Butler play at a high level? I'm not so sure can Bambi affected effective I'm not so sure can Lebron Anthony Davis dominated game? Yes they can and look at the way. Lebron. Stormed off court at the end of the game almost defy knowing he's got to stay in the bubble and extra three days watch out for Lebron. Okay Oh wait hold on a second in the middle there you said I'm not sure of Jimmy Butler can can play a high level where you're going to be the one to tell. China. Lebron. I. Know Lebron lebrons first year with Cleveland. He had to play at a ridiculous level to get them to a game six. Jimmy. Butler is a great player of forty point triple double is now you said one guy can do it consistently he's on the I to bring done down on Israel went back. I sold a bit done they please. Frank I don't think it's about Lebron as much as it is by Anthony Davis we've seen throughout the playoffs, but the Lakers are at their best when he's their best player, the bronze knock and heavy turnovers again, Anthony Davis is going to play better. But I think you look at the room for improvement for the heat and take away Bam out of by we don't know if he's GonNa play. We don't know how we can be, but we know that Duncan. Robinson and tyler hero can shoot better than the ten for thirty that they shot in gained three days still managed to win that game. So I think even if inevitably Jimmy Butler comes down from that all time high that he was adding game three, you get better shooting out of those guys who are now engaged in the series as we saw by the time of year old snow who now have more confidence that gives the heat a chance Donald back in. Look to Jay's point fifty, four, hundred, ninety. That's what the heat shot in. Game Two fifty thirty, three, ninety in game three they have figured something out on offense. That's GonNa put them in a position to at least stay in the game they've also ditched the zone they know that they're gonNA play heat basketball they're gonNA play man on man defense and try to make it more physical I think that's their method behind their materials. Regardless, of WHO's on the floor that trend from one to game to game three has been going toward Miami now, Kenny, Anthony Davidson Lebron James snap their fingers as frank is is insisting here turn that around yes. But that's got to be something on the coaching and that's got to be something more than just hey, I want those guys to score. That's word. Well I think everyone is right about what Miami's been able to do physical but Lebron has been taking a lot of jumpers. I would expect Anthony Davidson Lebron to Jimmy Butler. Did he had twenty six points in the pain in game three? He was outstanding I think Lebron is GonNa do that through Lakers easy tonight. Frank. That's we everything you're saying is not easy. They regain by twelve hundred more coming off the Lakers. One possession game, but I got Dante. Donna. I got the heat tied up. All right. You don't tell hero says he never made that face on his life you believe. Do. You believe that he's never made that basically full video of him high school he's going to be making that face. All right. Chiefs Twenty Six patriots ten our next door you want to start with the call for the result. Let's start with the call how this in real time and because in the grass does not reviewable. Stays forever swings a whole game referee Tony says Mahomes was being controlled quite a bit and quote and for safety that's his judgment call. Frank Solar is it the right call? No it's the wrong call but they've proved last night. They were going to protect the best quarterback in the League at all costs for the best young quarterback. What about the? The. Unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when he ran out of bounds and he essentially flopped, here's the problem for the Patriots. Though this was a team that had to fly into the game, the morning of the game, and you're playing the chiefs and you're playing Patrick Mahomes and you have everything going against you including the referees officiating this game especially that call was so poor. Plus the two interceptions at New England should have had plus the Brian Hoyer play on third down when he never should have been sacked without a timeout. New. England really blew this but that call right there hurt them big you saying the Patriots could have beaten the chiefs of played and they didn't have everything that went into this weekend for them. Frank. I think the Kansas City probably would have taken them a little more seriously. I think they would've played better but they newsroom at quarterback. That's pretty obvious. It's just got to be so frustrating that you already know going in that you have to play perfectly essentially to beat this team and then going in on this crazy schedule you're going in without your starting quarterback, and then you have the referee seemingly working against you in what should have been or could have been a huge call now obviously, the way things transpired didn't really come out to a one. Two three point game but it was something that can take the wind out of you. If you're going on the road to try to grab sorta steal a win there. So well, I don't think it was in any difference in the game it was something that sort of crazy way made you feel sorry for Bill John they're never happened. Just keep going back to the language that the referee used quite a bit. He was in the grasp quite a bit. That's the threshold. Now, I mean we're replayed has to be indisputable. Now that's something definitive right? Indisputable. Quite a bit is arrested rationale the justify calling him. In the grass I've ever indisputable. I guess is my question and and should it be reviewable or is it can't be reviewable because it's so judgmental? It should be reviewable, I I don't know how you defined it, and that's the thing they have to define it. If the they can ask the officials that have find it in real time and they should be able to define it in a replay and George. Donna Yet not only is it a bad break for New England but to your point, it is a bad rule. The fact that you can't challenge something as silly and we've seen this reviews sports across the board whether it's basketball whether it's the NFL college football we've seen these situations were coaches should easily be able to challenge something, reverse it, and help their teams and then. They're not allowed to, and by the way if cam was there, I, think they'd win this. New England defense has been fantastic gets Patrick mahomes three times he's been held without a touchdown in the first half all three against everything you just said about reviewing a every call. George. Didn't we see that with pass interference in that proved to be something that was unsustainable and review. What look I think some of these calls are judgment calls, right? Like pass interference I think is one of those situations where you literally have two guys jockeying for position I mean. Patrick. Holmes was Patrick. Mahomes was trying to throw the football like what are we arguing about here his arm was already up they didn't blow the whistle on his arm was up to me that's the difference chiefs offense. It's two games where they've been out of sorts. How much of that you think was the delay and how much Bella check and how much is that Casey needs to do some work your? J. Patrick Mahomes did say that that extra day off when they couldn't use the facility through them off and they were out of rhythm, but you have to give credit to it's not just the scheme. It's his ability to guess what Andy Reid wants to do. So he dropping into cover two at the right time or you bring a pressure at the. Right time that's unique to Bill Belichick I. Don't think other teams can duplicate that. We'll move on last night's other game packers thirty Falcon Sixteen Rogers Year perfect with that is number one and number two receiver Green Bay's up number one scoring in the league right now the quarter. Pole Jay how real is all that could this be the NFC's best team? The numbers look pretty real to me. No turnovers so far. Only. been sacked one to three times. You just on ten it out only three sacks for Aaron Rodgers and he's leading the League in Qbr don't know how much Dr WanNa put in that metric but it's worth something he's right up there among the great quarterbacks beyond. Yet listen I'm buying the packers as the best team in the NFC. For this reason, they're number one in point differential and number one in yards per attempt you look at those two stats they're quite indicative of how successful the team is in the postseason it Gutierrez. Shout. Out to all those who said Aaron Rodgers needs more weapons more. Devante Adam. He can take an undrafted tight end to make him into a superstar and that's sort of speaks to the marriage and the harmony that la floors offense and Aaron Rodgers are sort of feeling in this. Second go around the second season where he's sitting there counting the touchdowns to Tanya after his third one and it's just like, okay, he doesn't need anybody special. Solo. They made the NFC title game last season. They're better this year and two point look at the way Aaron Rodgers playing. They're taking guys if the practice squad and within no time he stone the ball around spreading around to everyone. He's just playing at such a high level along with Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes it's those three quarterbacks and then everybody else well that. Nobody nobody answers the questions could they be the best team in the NFC Sodano yelled out? Don. They. The cash. They could be oh God. It's so small table Brian said we're taking a break right now something else from last night. Rogers. And also very falcons eat yelling heart out to get them under a hard pound absolutely happened last night. Out That's back. GEICO. Presents Monster. Counseling Dracula tell me how you're feeling. No one understands how only these no one will even let me into their house I knock knock but they ignore me. What else I look in the mirror? I. Don't. 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GRAND SLAMS IN BACK TO BACK PLAYOFF Games Stanton's dagger late last night take away from last night and how becks tonight what's Donald Purview? Tony I think that clearly there are softball team right. So we've established that but that's something that we knew but I was impressed with their pitching staff look Garrett Cole gave up three runs but he had eight strikeouts twenty one strikeouts in his first two playoff appearances only ten Linda calm and Bob Gibson done better in their first playoff starts with their respective teams. So they're pitching was fantastic and I think that is what will carry them moving dahe. All you need to know is that the Yankees scored nine runs last night and the runs per average went down because they've been averaged eleven eleven runs per game going into that Yeah Garrett Cole just basic qualify per quality start, which is nice. They don't have to be that great when the lineup putting that many runs on the board of the tears. Agreed Thirteen and knows a record of teams who homer there are other the opponent in the playoffs so far so Yankee seem like they're in pretty good shape three games in a row for Giancarlo Stanton hitting home runs, and that dude is a streaky as they come the Yankees are going to love him if he stays on the street I heard from this panel in the past live by the run die by the home run. Frank. Are you GonNa rain on the Yankees parade here in New York. It's still eventually going to have to come down to pitching because we've seen this with the Yankees before but is he mentioned three straight homers for Stanton I'm just happy he's actually playing in three straight games that's been the issue. He's never healthy same thing with Aaron judge but Tony How about GIO or shell at third base having kind of a Greg nettles throwback s Tony's data about it he goes. To the forty year. Old Breath. At the hot Korda. So even though Tampa, own series against New York everybody thinks New York's going to win this series because they came out hitting strong yesterday. All right. I'm not going to forget that points for mutes coming your way next fire still to Shawn Watson today. A Little Brian's God would everything Bill O'Brien the Texans still around Houston own four they don't have the Audrey Hopkins. They still don't have a traffic until the third round next year. Jay Buyers. So Watson being able to survive that buy or sell the Texans moving forward from O'Brien, the way they did. I'm selling. It's wrong time. Apparently, the right time would have been when he was beeping with the Andrei Hopkins I always say if you're going to choose between the coast and player, you choose to coach you better be committed to that coast and the Texans weren't Gutierrez. I, mean, he left them without an identity. That's that's sort of my whole thinking when it comes to Bill O'Brien's tenure in Houston, what are they? Exactly? I have complete faith that the Shawn Watson can recover and continue to be a superstar quarterback in the NFL but under Bill O'Brien that was happening. So I think the timing is just so. That's fair but it's still about the shown Watson if he is a franchise quarterback in your own four if Lamar Jackson on Patrick mahomes Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson we will look at them a lot differently he needs to be better you can get rid of the coach quarterback needs to get better George Donald. Tony. He's a good coach, but he put himself in harm's way. Kind of like little fingering game of thrones tried to amass too much power and at the end it was over for him. Though he's big club is what he was. Changes. Resist. Was Up twenty four nothing on the chiefs about nine months ago you tell them. Now they're looking for coach and they'll be owned for, and that's just an incredible credible whiplash will move on by herself three or Mongol Era Miami Herald Brian floors tangled in contradiction floors sit to is healthy but he also sees rushing throw him in a game because of media pressure he's got to think of it like a father coming back from that injury that he had fitzpatrick's starts week five for Miami Israel by herself floor is thought process here. I'm going to buy it only because Ryan Fitzpatrick has not been awful. He's been essentially keeping them in games and I. Think they want to see him in a game before they commit to starting them. So maybe if the game gets away from Fitzpatrick, go to to and then the era begins the next Solo. Patients Grasshopper we've just talked about Aaron Rodgers Patrick Mahomes they didn't play differs years to give it time. He'll be fired there must be something with the hip I think he'll eventually get in there but much later in the Donald. So that point, we all forget that this was the injury that Bo Jackson had an everyone was wondering if this kid would even have a career the fact that he would take his time and say, you know what we're GonNa make sure he's a hundred percent healthy. He's only in his early twenties. He's still growing as a person and as a man, this is I am absolutely buying everything that floors do unday. Yeah I'm buying it for the reasons and if I hit the high note like Philip Bailey I would but the reasons that Bryant floors gave. He's putting the concerns of the athlete ahead of everything else and that's a rarity in NFL and it's refreshing. Air Is and frank is solas like O'Brien. It's not because of what you did as a coach. GM getting eliminated for right now. Yes. My Shit take it on the right here in Solo. Sodano don date showdown Donald Herschel back in seven months. GEICO presents monster counseling. Dracula. Tell me how you're feeling. 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Rest of The West #4: Raiders Week!

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"Everybody in wealth to another episode of the west. I am one of your, does Matthew Stanley at fan, Denver on Twitter and join me once again is Michael Peterson, Michael Houser weekend. We can was actually a ton of fun. I ended up working a little more than I wanted to, but just watch the game to have good time, joy myself. It was good Matthew. How was yours? Miners get to. Obviously, now that I'm in Denver had to pick one Denver sports team to follow. So I chose the Rockies and the Rockies have been killing it this week. They won the wildcard game in Chicago, and then they lost night's game in the first game of LDS. But you know, I'm excited to have them in the playoffs. I've got tickets to their game or games here in Denver, and I'm looking forward to that. But we are here to talk about football. So we will start with the Broncos and chiefs game is played each other this week, and Michael Wenjie go leaves off on that one. So this game was actually to me, it ended up being a much better game to watch than probably a lot of people expected. The Broncos haven't been that good this year. I know case keenum hasn't been the quarterback that they, they hoped he'd be and the chiefs have been amazing. But the Broncos actually did a really good job sticking with the chiefs, their offense look good. They took advantage of a lot of the chiefs weaknesses on defense and really kept it close game really until the very end. But Mahomes man, he just kept doing a lot of people kept saying, you know, he hasn't played anybody. Wait until he plays a good defense on hostile environment. Prime time, people just kept making those excuses for him. You know, like don't jump on the Mahomes bandwagon right away like he still has to do some things from to get. You know, the final bit of respect and he finally did those things. I mean, he didn't throw. You know, a ton of touchdowns only had one touchdown pass in this game did rush for a touchdown. So if anything that just shows you? Yes, he is a good quarterback that you know if he's unable to get done with his arm than he can still make it, you know, inflicts pain on with his legs and hurt you some other way. So Mahomes looked amazing. There was a left handed pass in there at one point to convert. I think it was a third or fourth down kind of clutch clutch play. I mean. Rolling to his left. He's right handed and then flip the ball to his left hand, and then shot put it to tyreek hill who was about a yard short of the first down. But it was just perfect enough. Tyreek was able to catch it. Scamper the one yard over get the first down, get abounds. And it was real quick, but Manny was just as perfect. And at the end of the game case, keenum overshot Damaris Thomas for a touchdown that could've I think, I think would have ended up tying or winning it, but he missed it. Ended up not completing any other passes went onto lose, and it was actually really, really, really interesting game one that you're just begging the Broncos to give the chiefs their first loss. And you know, no matter who won it was still going to affect, you know, are standing. We were still going to fall behind by a game or something like that, but. Overall great, great game Sanley again, you being in Denver woes kinda like where you were watching this game. So I watch this game at home with my wife my way for those of you who don't know, my wife is a Broncos fan, so I was watching the game with her and it was a really good game. I mean, it was. It was like you said it was super close the hallway through. They were still tied thirteen thirteen in the third quarter, and then the Broncos are pull away and going into the fourth quarter actually like with like eleven minutes left in the fourth quarter. The Broncos were still up twenty three to thirteen eight at ten point lead. And like you said, I mean, Patrick Mahomes. We've set it on the show a couple times, but he just looks so calm out there so collected. He looks like he's got more experience than this being his fifth start in the NFL. And yeah, he just play that you were talking about where he threw with his left hand. He was rolling out and not only was he able to keep his eyes down field, find tyreek hill at the sticks. Shove the ball to his left hand in shop, put it over, but he was being actively tackled while he did this. He wasn't just, you know, running and couldn't couldn't set his feet. He was being tackled to the ground when he did it, and it was just it was really a really something to behold and yeah, like you said, right right there. At the end of the game case keenum had emerged Thomas. He had him wide open, various, ran a great route and. Did you see the the replay win. Thomas came off the ball. He actually when he was working around the corner back to the outside, he wasn't running full speed. For some reason, if you watch it, he kind of took the of pedal, took his foot off the pedal for a second. And then you can see the ocean moments where he realized she was getting the ball, and then he sped up and it was just outside, but I washed us over and over and over again. So input a clip of it on Twitter in. Yeah, like he didn't run it full speed. It was a good route. Don't get me wrong. But as he came around when he turned his head towards the ball, he wasn't going full speed. You see the moment where he, you know, pedal to the metal tries to catch up to it in that was killer. I mean, who's fall really it is, I don't know, but it was both parties. Yeah, it just it wasn't really a clean second half by the Broncos. I would say that the first half was really, I mean, they they basically what I, what I. Other teams are going to take away from this game is a pretty good defensive game plan on how to stifle this chiefs offense a little bit because going into this game, the chiefs offense was averaging like thirty nine point, two points per game. And usually the final score, they only score twenty seven in this game and Mahomes only threw one touchdown. So they had a really effective game plan. They pressured him a lot. They sent a lot of guys awaat against him, kinda got him stifled a little bit. He he only completed twenty eight of his forty five asses. So it was statistically his worst start of the year so far, but still no interceptions for Patrick Holmes. He looks after the ball, Travis, Kelsey bailed him out a lot. He was, you know, he was their leading receiver seventy yards on seven receptions. And yeah, I mean the the chiefs, they just continue to show that while they have some weaknesses on defense, you can't contain them for the entire game. Patrick Mahomes. Is a really good quarterback already and playing beyond his years and both of these teams. I mean, the charters Broncos are both now at two and two, but both of these teams are very good, and this is going to be a tight race in the AFC west this year, a lot tighter than I expected just looking on paper going into the season. No, yeah, you're right. Going back in hopefully teams can this films which of the chargers along time until they face Kansas City. Again, I believe it's the last game of the regular season at least one of the last games this year, but one of the things that pops out to me as well on the statute sheet is that tyreek hill caught nine passes, but it was only for fifty four yards. So he averaged six yards a catch. His longest catch was for fifteen, and he actually led the lead the team and targets thirteen. We caught most of those. But again, this is a guy who pretty much you could flip a coin about whether or not he's going to take a pass or something to the house. He's that explosive, and you already did the chargers. We've seen what he's done to the Steelers several teams so far this season, but nine for fifty four. I mean, that's if you're going to hang your hat on anything as defense, stopping Patrick Mahomes throwing touchdowns. Yeah, that's one of them, but tyreek hill who's known for taking the ball to the house all the time. Nine fifty four. I think that's huge. And I think that's something that a. Teams need to go wash film on, honestly, it seems like they did something right? Definitely. Yeah. The forcing him on those four seem to run shorter routes. Like I said, they, they pressured Patrick Mahomes a lot. So he had to get the ball out quickly. I mean, this chiefs offense of line isn't a great offensive line. This is an offensive line that you can generate a pass rush against. If you have enough guys can rush the passer, the charges had a hard time with it because they kind of have Melvin Ingram who's who's regressed a little bit this year, not having Joey Bosa across from him. I'm not saying the Melvin Ingram has been bad this year. He just obviously he's not putting up the sack numbers that he put up when when Joey was across the field from him, and then with Joey, not there. I mean the most effective passer, the chargers have had this year is there when James at safety and he's been really good, but you can't Blitzer when James single play. So when when the chargers are playing the chiefs later on in the year, hopefully Joey Bosa will be back and the chargers will be able to kind of follow this game plan like. We said and just pressure the hell out of Patrick Mahomes and let your corners and you know, take care of things on the back end very much. Right. So we've been talking mostly about the chiefs up to this point. We haven't talked of his Broncos a little bit and we haven't played the Broncos yet. This year chargers have yet. I don't know. Do you know which week of the top of your head? We face the Broncos with. I wanna say it's like week, eleven? Isn't that. I'm pulling up right now because I know they play the by week eight, and then they played the raiders coming back off the bye November eighteenth, the charters, it's at home against the Broncos. So plenty time. Okay. Time to worry about the Broncos just pulling up some of the game stats right now. Let's see. So case keenum I feel like a broken record every time we talk about the Broncos in case keenum and say, he ain't it almost every week and one more week has passed and he still ain't it twenty one of thirty three, two hundred and forty five yards. One interception no passing touchdowns. He is killing the Broncos offense. And again, this is an offense that towards the entire NFL with their pass catchers, and they have a handful, those pass catcher still in Emmanuel Sanders and Mary Thomas. They have Cortlandt Sutton. They have to really good rookies at running back with Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman, and they're not getting almost any production out of their quarterback position. And I mean, it's almost scary to think that case keenum can somehow find has formed from last year when he's with the the Vikings. A lot of people wanna say, Pat Shurmur being OC with the Vikings was a big part of. Giving case, keenum confidence and putting minute system where he's able to flourish. It's easy from understand, etc, etc. In its looking more more more like that's the case that keenum was just a system quarterback, almost the definition of it. If you look at the teams, he's been with up to this point before he was with Vikings and now three passing touchdowns on the year. That's it. It's but luckily the got Lindsay and Freeman. So I mean, what do you think case kimes it? But if you if you really think about if he can just start throwing one or two touchdowns a game getting to some sort of a level of consistency. That's the Broncos could have a pretty good offense. What do you think? I think you're right. I think that case keenum performance is basically the only thing holding Broncos teams back. They've got really good, two headed monster in the backfield. I mean a Philip Lenzi Royce Freeman combined for one hundred thirty eight yards. Rushing and two touchdowns this week on only twenty carries and they've got, they've still got a great defense even with with Wade, Philip. Leaving and losing a keep to leave. Their defense is still is still clicking and there they showed their defense. I mean, they're the only defense that's been able to hold this chiefs offense under almost almost under forty points this year, and they held him under thirty points. So. I think you're right. I mean, case keenum he needs to. He hasn't been as advertised so far and they've got to figure something out for him. I don't know if if it's like a timing thing that they, they need to work out some some better place for him to get into a groove and start building offense up. Their offense of line isn't great, but it hasn't been bad like it's not like he's running for his life all the time. I mean, the. The chiefs have decent pass rushers with the Ford in just in Houston, and it looks like they got off four sacks. And I remember specifically two of those were coverage sack. So I mean, case keenum just I don't know what's going on, but he they need to find a way to get him into a groove if they want to be in this race for the AFC west, though. You're definitely right. It's frustrating. It's got to be frustrating for Broncos fans. I don't know how your wife feels watching. I know I've got a couple of buddies that our Broncos fans, it's probably super, super frustrating, especially it seemed like there was a lot of height and a lot of excitement and hope with the case keenum signing like, you know, they muffed it with Paxton Lynch. Chad, Kelly hasn't been, you know, the work in progress like they thought he was going to be. They just haven't been able to figure it out. Trevor siemian even Trevor simian started two hundred seventeen much better than case keenum is and everyone thought Trevor simian was just the poorest up quarterback starting quarterback that boss we have, but he was actually killing it this time last year. So. So gotta be frustrating for Broncos fans. Let's just hope again that they don't. They don't turn that switch until after the chargers play them. Because with the way the the secondary we were just talking about, and I think in our group chat recently, someone put up a tweet about how bad the the charter secondary was doing. So that's a whole another story. Let's just hope they don't turn that switch and start being an issue that way. Let's go onto the raiders versus the Browns game. We'll talk about the raiders kinda tie this together because the chargers do play the raiders this week. The raiders are one and three. They got their first one of the season, a forty, five forty, two overtime victory over the Cleveland Browns, and they barely won this one. It we're being honest. I think Baker Mayfield had three turnovers in the second half. I think it was two interceptions in a fumble or one interception in two foam bowls. I know he struggling to to take care of the ball, but they barely squeak this one out. Out. So I believe you watched a little more of this game than I did. So let's hear your thoughts start this out yet this they were gifted this win. Basically it took Baker Mayfield, you know, playing like a rookie quarterback in the second half of the game for them to win this game in. And it was actually, we complained a couple times this year about bad officiating. And this was probably one of the worst officiated games in the league. This season, there was bad calls on both sides. There was one that benefited the raiders near the end of the game. That was just it was really bad. I think it if I remember right it was. There was a pretty obvious fumble by the raiders, but the refs had to quickly called forward progress and it negated the turnover and that would have avoided overtime. So, yeah. The raiders are still not a good team. It. Beating Brown team is nothing to write home about, and they were basically gifted this win. So we dig in a little bit more into the stats. The raiders defense gave up a ton of yards on the ground. Nick. Chubb had three carries for one hundred and five yards and two touchdowns basically almost every single time he does the ball. It was touchdown for like a millionaires and then Carlos Hyde who had the lion's share that carries had twenty carries for eighty two yards and a touchdown. So I mean, the the, the Browns were able to put up over two hundred yards of rushing on the ground in less than thirty carries so. It wasn't a good day for the for the Browns. I mean for the raiders on defense now they did put up a ton of yards on offense. This Browns defense is actually pretty good, and so it's a little concerning seeing how well the raiders were able to move the ball. Dare car had fifty eight pass temps for thirty five completions, and that netted him four hundred thirty seven yards and four touchdowns. Now he did two interceptions again and you know that that's definitely something to keep in mind is Derek, Carr is he's playing pretty radically this year. He is it making the best decisions at times. And so you know, he's basically he's come way back down to earth. I know there was a lot of hype about Derek Carr over the past couple of seasons, and he's playing. He's you know if it wasn't for case keenum. Stinking dare card the worst quarterback in this division, but he is a very close. Third again, we had marshawn Lynch running. The ball, like a madman. He had twenty carries for one hundred thirty yards. He didn't get in the end zone, but one of the things that we'll talk about this a little more when we get into the previous action. But I think the key to beating this raiders team when the chart when the raiders have the ball is do everything. You can to stop marshawn Lynch and forced air car to try and beat you because I don't think he can so obviously with him throwing for half a million yards. Mark Hooper had a great game. He had eight catches on twelve targets for twenty years touchdown. Once again, Jared cook their their tight end had one hundred ten yards. I think this is his third hundred yard receiving game since the season out of the four. So he's just tearing it up. He's destroying defense is right now any added two touchdowns on that as well. And this is really the first game where Martavis Bryant got got in the mix for them. He had seven targets. So he was definitely in the game plan, but only down three catches and still it. Fifty one yards. So this offense moved the ball really. Well. I'm especially compared to the first couple of weeks and this is not. I mean, it is the Browns, but this is not a, you know, this is not a bad defensive. They've assembled a really good young fast, talented defense, I agree. So it's tough to take or figure out what the silver linings from this game are the raiders his his numbers are inflated their cars numbers most because his defense has been letting them down, said Chiba for a while. So he threw it fifty eight times. That's obviously not a normal thing that's not anywhere near as average so stuff. He second in the league, I believe in passing yards. His got a good amount of cast stones as well, but you're right when you're saying he's playing Radic as yes, thrown his fair share of interceptions as well. And I think you're right in terms of the game plan in terms of the chargers gotta attack this team, it's stop Lynch and. And maybe last year earlier this season before started, I'd be. I'd be fairly worried knowing how Lynch has been playing because he's been playing fairly well us. I'm not gonna say he's the old amazing beast mobile that do can still run it between the tackles. He'll still run through your face over and over and over again. Like he's still that guy. He still plays with that mindset, but the chargers rushing defense has stepped up quite a bit. I don't have the stats off the top of my head, but I mean leaving. A limiting cream hunts. He finally had his breakout game, didn't have that great game against the chargers this past week. The charges facing the forty Niners and Matt Braida who at the time was a leading the NFL in rushing yards limited him too. Although we only had nine carries through thirty nine total yards still not nearly as efficient. He was averaging he was the only one averaging more yards per carry than Austin. I believe it was in the high aids eight point, seven, six, something like that. So again to hold Matt Braida to again thirty nine yards on nine carries. It's not too bad whatsoever. So, yeah, going in stop Lynch, and I think that's possible. I really, really think that's possible. We'll see what Cory Luda does in his return. People are kind of acting like all of a sudden, he's the second coming of Aaron Donald, like the, you know, the whole offensive line for. Oakland's kind of on the injury report right now. So there's some potential for something there and we'll see, we'll see. I think the the interior defensive lines kind of what's the word I'm looking for bonded like Emily, cohesive, but they've just got more and more cohesive the bonds there, an even plane very, very well. And then when it comes to Cooper and cook, again, the two guys, both caught a passes this past game for one twenty eight one for Cooper cook another one hundred yard game. It's gonna be tests like we just talked about. I mentioned earlier, the three defensive backs, Casey Hayward over Williams and Desmond king have not had a good outing thus far. And although there is no pass rush to really help them. It's still a little uneasy to see what we read earlier was all three of them are. Allowing a pass rating of triple digits, which is not good whatsoever. For you know, the quote, unquote electric fence that they were deemed to begin the season. It's just not good. Absolutely. What so ever with cook, we don't have Kaiser white. The charges are missing their rookie linebacker. Fourth round pick who was on been killing it since he has been starting this year besides German James, he was kind of the second rookie to really make a splash so far in these first four games. I guess I three because he didn't play this weekend. We'll be without him. So it's gonna be really interesting to see what these matchups are, how they're gonna, stop jerk. Cook is honestly beyond me right now as I think it comes down to to Getafe as Brown. I don't think Denzil Param is gonna be on him in China. I don't think so. It's going to be interesting. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of Derwin on Jerry cook this week in just a couple. I was just calling the defensive players for the raiders who actually did something. Jonathan Hakin had two fumble recoveries, so it's not too shabby. And then MAURICE Hurst MAURICE Hurst might be already the best defensive player actually on the raiders. He had another sack another tackle for loss and a pass deflected from the tackle position. I think this one guy to look out for he was super disruptive in college. He's a guy I talk about a lot of people were fans of prior to the draft and look into how Dan Feeney's kinda had a rough start the season, Michael Scofield now playing the absolute best at his position either that's gonna be one match to wash specifically, come gametime yet. So speaking of, you know, you named a bunch of the starters for the raiders in IB remiss if we didn't mention the final injury ports are not yet. We'll give those guys on our Saturday show. But the raiders are extremely banged up right now. So let me run through their injury report thus far this week. So Amari Cooper, obviously their number one target in the receiving game. He has a foot injury. He was limited both Wednesday and Thursday. So we don't know if he's going to practice on Friday or not, or is that is for the game, but he's banged up. He's obviously not a hundred percent. Their starting center. Rodney Hudson has an ankle injury. He was limited Wednesday and Thursday. MAURICE Hurst. You just mentioned who you played sixty percent of their defensive snaps at detangle this week. He has a shoulder injury and was limited Wednesday and Thursday. Bruce Irvin who's really their only pass rusher now that they traded away mad Khalil Mack, Bruce Irvin he hurt his knee apparently in yesterday's practice because he was added to today's injury report. Any was only limited today gave Jackson who's their starting guard as a pictorial injury. He was limited yesterday today. Karl Joseph. Didn't practice either day this week. Our Sean Lynch who I just said is one of the keys of the game to stopping. He didn't play when he didn't practice Wednesday at all, and was limited today Holton Miller, their rookie starting left tackle was limited yesterday today and Alexia simulate their other starting guard as a knee injury and didn't practice yesterday or today. So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Eight of their starters have been either limited or not practicing this week, and that will be huge for the chargers. I mean, the charges are a little banged up to, like you mentioned, Qazir whites out, Joey Bosa obviously still out update on Travis Benjamin for those of you who don't know. He has a cast on his foot as practice this week in his apparently supposed to be two to three weeks. You know, whatever. Good news, Joe Barksdale and Russell Kun were both back limited today. I'm pretty sure Anthony. Lynn said he doesn't expect either of them to be available on Sunday, but it's a good sign that they're practicing. It'll be good to have them back. But yeah, I mean, the the raiders were only rolling into week five and they are already the walking wounded over there in Oakland, definitely rights and just above. One of the we mentioned on the charters injury report that was a Travis Benjamin being out for, I think you said it was two, three, four weeks like that yet to three weeks is everything that I saw. Okay. And that's an honestly a good thing to wanna wish injuries on people, but it was kind of a night and day difference between win Travis. Benjamin was utilized in the offense of game plan against the Niners and win. He wasn't available against the Rams the week before all of a sudden the Mike will you know, train of. Popping off for awesome. Touchdowns get targets all that stuff that really came to an end. The second that Trump's Benjamin came back to playing some sort of a role. So honestly, Travis Benjamin good receiver. He's done plenty for the chargers. He's been hurt quite a bit lately. But as of right now, I don't think the chargers need him. And I think if anything he is keeping a targets way from Mike Williams and kind of limiting this offense going forward because I think when he's on the field, the office code staffer, some reason feels the need to fit him in somehow and especially watching the chiefs, the Rams, all these people utilize their speed players with terms of motions and other things such as that, you know, to distract whatever get them looking the wrong way. They've been trying to do that with Benjamin on these orbit motions, jet motions these sweeps, and it just does not seem to be working. I don't know why it isn't because it looks like. It's trying to be the same thing, but it's just not getting done. And I think if anything, the presence of Benjamin is limiting the chargers offense. So hope it gets better. But I think this might spell good things for the chargers offense, at least in these two to three weeks that he is not in the plan agree with all that. And you know, we'll, we'll go more in depth on the show that we put out for Saturday for this matchup. But yeah, everything you said is true that you know it's probably gonna be addition by subtraction with Travis Benjamin out of this lineup, and you know, get the chargers getting Mike Wilmore involved. Continuing to let him flourish. Continuing to let that relationship with rivers develop and just, you know, putting the better players on the field in all honesty. So yeah, I think where we're at in the AFC west, I mean the cheeser out in front at four. No, the Broncos are in second place at two and two because they have that division win. They also division loss, but that you have one division win and the charter just behind them still tied at two, two, but the only have a division loss since this will be the second division games weekend, and then the raiders pulling up the rear at one and three with. One soon to be to division losses. So, yeah, I think the AFC west is shaping up after this first quarter is shaping up to be. Pretty competitive, and it's gonna be a good race going through the season between the chiefs Broncos and charters. Yeah, I fully agree. I'm excited for this week's matchup was kind of funny to see some of the things positive on social media, and I didn't know this was a rule that apparently they implemented into a nine, but they don't sell beer after halftime of the chargers. Raiders games, Juno that, Yep, no, no, no beer after halftime. And each time you go to the session stand, you can only purchase one, alcohol drink per person. You can't have to to bring back to your seats. So, and this is apparently apparently is not a new rule. Apparently they did this even back when they were Qualcomm. The fast couple years is because raiders fans of gotten so shitty and been so unruly that the charges are basically doing whatever they can to limit that. And the other crappy thing that I don't know if you saw this today, but the chargers and this is, you know, this is both sad and crappy, but the chargers had to hype in crowd noise. At practice this week to simulate a loud crowd in preparation for a quote, unquote home game at stubhub. So that's the state of things. I mean, we've all seen the pictures about how other fans other teams fans have been rolling in deep at stubhub and basically taken the place over there. They're expecting possibly their worst example of that this weekend with with the raiders because I mean, I, if we're honest, LA is still vastly a raiders town, and so it's not a stretch to have that many of them there and it's it could get way out of hand. You're speaking the truth. I, you know, remember what the crowd lie against the forty Niners and the whole thing was read. It was read as hell, and it's going to be black, very, very black, come this Sunday. So I don't think it's a bad idea. Just on a side note. I actually personally think it's, I feel more confidence, but it this way when the chargers go to away games when they play away games because I think there's something about playing in front of that normal size crowd. In general, not just even if it's a way that might be more comforting in more, I guess in a way normal instead of playing in his home field. I just like obviously there's no home field advantage either way, whether it's a big crowd or not. The crowd's been the opposite at charters, home games even when they were back the last two years in Qualcomm. So I almost think it's better for them just to play in a big crowd in general and plan stop of even if filled with their fans. But maybe that's just me. I might be weird about that, but you're right. It's going to be a lot of black Friday, Saturday, Sunday days. What. Yeah. So I think that about does it you have any other random if see, Wests thoughts before we get out of here? Man. I just have a feeling this game. We'll preview it on Saturday. I just feel like the game's gonna be closer than we like it to be the same way. I think I said about the niner's game, what charges come to play? It shouldn't be. The raiders. There's just no way there can be a loss handed to us by Jon Gruden, enter everything. He's done. Just start saying your prayers right now. So real quick. I just remembered something so we will get. We'll definitely get more into this in our next show, but give me your, let's say, one sentence instant reaction to the chargers dropping drew Kaser instead of ill of Sturgis this week. What? What is your just real quick initial thought synergy over strategy? I've, yeah, I think that nails it. I think that's the perfect way to put that. We know why we know exactly why they're doing it. They even said it that when they worked out Donnie Jones and chipanga that Donnie Jones quote unquote pop, or like stood out. And you know, I think there is to be said something there's something to be said using about that kind of relationship. The trust. I don't think it's it can be understated, but he still thirty eight years old. I didn't realize that punter kickers can be old as hell. But like I've been upon her and there are times where I feel like I pull something when I start kicking really hard again after, you know, not hunting for a while. So we'll see how he does. I hope you still got a leg on him. I know guys like Viteri people like them still rip it at their age, but we'll just see, hopefully this just fix it because you know as stupid as may sound right now, if all of a sudden is just. You know, gunning field goals down, he's just nailing kid after kid. It's gonna look like the greatest move. So I'm gonna be reserve right now in just say, let's just see what happens and the results will speak for themselves yet. I mean, like you said about the relationship it it is not to be understated. I mean the, it's kind of like how the team was able to just bring in Antonio gates on zero practice and throw him into a game because he in Philip been doing it for so long. Caleb Sturgis. And I mean, I mean he was he was gives her his holder in in Philadelphia, and obviously like the goal is the punt as little as possibles you're keeping him off the field. But he also even though he's that old e didn't spend the summer kicking as he was basically retired. So he he, he wasn't kicking over the summer. He was a, I think if you read the charters article about it, he was at Home Depot or something when he got the call from them like getting ready to do some like dad chores. So, yeah, he. Hopefully he's fresh as fresh as you can be thirty eight years old and come in, and you know, not suck at putting and improve this kicking because, like you said, if it works out, they look like geniuses. But if they've done this and Caleb Sturgis comes in and he's still shanking aunts. And I mean shaking Hicks and and missing extra points. They're gonna have a lot to answer for deciding to keep Caleb surges in cut a drew Kaser nitric as was doing crappy this year already and it. You know, he regrets from last year. He had that, you know that locked punt the end zone that was mostly his fault along with a special ordinaire. But yeah, it was on paper. This move makes sense. And I hope it works out that way. But yeah, that about does it for this evening. 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Week 9 (Part 1)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

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Week 9 (Part 1)

"It's time to eat in my belly. Sit Down and get ready to consume an abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Ross Tucker and Joe Dolan Roland on the fantasy feast eaten podcast. Yeah let's eat baby. It is the a fantasy. Feast eaten. PODCAST if you're looking for a place to make your online wagers head right on over to bet online dot. Ag Your On Line Nine sports book experts. Just use the Promo Code. podcast one for that fifty percent five zero welcome bonus he is Joe. Dolan an absolute stud number one ranked fantasy analyst in the world. According to fantasy pros dot com over the last five years. Awesome and Joe. This'll be a truly truly rare and unique taping of the fantasy fees podcast today. Is We do episode one episode to from about two thirty to four. PM Eastern time. We're going to be having trades. Come down the Pike Wall. We're recording this show and I will not you up on that. It will will be fantastic but we will start with the Thursday night game. Let's start Joe Thursday night. I the Red Hot forty niners taking on the Arizona cardinals. Yeah this is going to be an interesting game here. Author lost their forty niners or in Arizona. They are eight point favorites on the road which suggests that the run game could be once again really important. Kevin Coleman scored Basically four touchdowns will not basically he did. He scored four touchdowns on thirteen touches last week. which is absurd tech mobile numbers and with the forty niners as eight point favorites adverts on the road? They're gonNA get an opportunity to do that again. And they could be without Matt Brita End. Jeff Wilson Breda left last week's game with an ankle injury. Jeff Wilson left. Yeah concussion you would think Wilson for sure is not going to be available in this game and we'll see about Brita who last year you might remember was always hurt and still oh always played so it was really interesting with map Rita how he was able to fight through injuries last year but with the short week I would expect this to be a big time. Tevin Coleman Coleman gain for the San Francisco Forty niners though a one of the things that you need to point out with the forty niners. First and foremost big George Kit will gain Arizona we I know there're struggles with the tight end and though that has quieted down a little bit recently they still do struggle with the position. George Kittle is hungry. He has lost three touchdowns announced penalties. This year you could see how frustrated he was last week when he knew when he realized that his touchdown was Gonna come off the board To A to a pick play penalty realty against the panthers. He was not happy. I expect him to bounce back in a big way and we do have to talk about this receiving poor. I've been mentioning all. Oh you're long on the podcast that there really hasn't been a forty niner receiver that we can sink our teeth into. There hasn't been one that we can really rely on. But in his first game with the forty niners Emmanuel Sanders led all their wide receivers with five targets end with eighty two percent of their snaps and that was in his first game that that indicates to me that the forty niners have big plans for Emmanuel Sanders going forward and it was at the direct detriment to Dante. Pettis who played thirty percent of the snaps naps a week. After he was up and over ninety percent for the first time so Emmanuel Sanders has eaten into Dante Pettis role. And right now I have him as a wide oversee three for the rest of the season and really the only forty nine or wide receiver that we can trust for fancy what about the Arizona cardinals on the other side. Especially now my guy chase. EDMUNDS got hurt. Yeah he's out for a while here. Raw Suck looks like a multi week absence with with the hamstring injury. And they traded for Kenyan Drake. And you you would anticipate with With David Johnson n chase. Edmunds expected to miss this week. That Kenyan drake is going to be a really active part of their offense however it is worth pointing out. That drake's schedule is brutal coming up. He has a matchup with the forty niners of rare good defense Tampa Ebbe who have had been an excellent run defense and then the forty niners again and then he goes on by. I actually wouldn't be opposed to trying to trade Kenyan anion drake with the perceived increase in his value. Now if you don't find any biters and you think hey look he's going to get twenty touches this week. It's fine to use him. Awesome is a high end flex low and rb to just be aware that this is a brutal match up for a guy learning a new offense it is not the greatest of weeks to be using Kenyan drake he he is of volume based flex low end rb to this week and the receivers and tight ends while the receivers. Unfortunately it's been really bad. News News for Larry Fitzgerald. He hasn't gotten it done at all in recent weeks and he had just four targets in two catches last week against the saints. Meanwhile Christian Kirk comes back plays. He's eighty six. Percents of the snaps has eleven targets and carry so Christian Kirk is back on the wide receiver three radar I think Fitzgerald's a low end wide receiver. Three I much prefer Christian Kirk at this stage. He came back and looked healthy last week and there are tight ends wilder using them more. None of them. Charles Clay Max. Williams are fantasy relevant. One let's get across the pond. It's nine thirty. AM game tech our extra Srour Sleep. Ross make sure you set your clock back. Oh interesting I forgot about that. Okay you get that extra hours sleep before you wake up and have breakfast breakfast the Texans and the jags there you go. Okay Texans at the JAGS. Well it's worth pointing out that these two teams have played under the total in four of their last five games so they play kind of they play kind of defensive style battle Battles though this game is one of the four highest line games of the week with a projected total of forty seven and a half there is not a whole lot of respect out there in the market for these two defenses obviously the Jaguars traded away Jalen Ramsey and Houston Houston has had major secondary issues. They had to go try trade for for Gary uncommonly to patch things up on the back end once again they could be a team that makes a trade here. We're recording warning this at two thirty on on Tuesday so in the next ninety minutes they could be a team that makes a trade for somebody in the secondary but starting with the Texan offense Need to point. Join out that. The Texans are two point favorites in this game which you would think a lines this up to be kind of a of a Carlos Hyde game but remember how uglier things were the last time. These two teams played nothing really got going so Carlos tied in Duke Johnson both on the flex level but obviously with no Jalen Ramsey in this game full systems. Go deandra Hopkins to Shawn Watson and this passing game the Andre Hopkins. It's unfortunately been like pulling teeth. A little bit with him once again even though he was up over one hundred yards receiving last week he averaged under ten yards per carry a poor reception. But I think with no Jalen Ramsey the Jaguar corners corners. Place is right. Now I think this is a big game for De'andre Hopkins for him to get going and for. Kenny stills was a disappointment last week did not get it done in a good matchup. I think there's an opportunity for Kenny stills to make a play down the field in this game I would still consider rolling with him as a wide receiver three Anything else that needs to be said for the Texas before moving on and the Jags I'm people were asking me about Darren. Fills and Darren fells is kind of somebody us. In the fantasy industry have had a blind spot for because he's been in the League for seemingly twenty years and he's never been fantasy relevant and then all of a sudden he comes out and he seems to be scoring two touchdowns every every other week He's on pace for career year. He caught all six of his targets last week. He scored two touchdowns against the raiders. He already has a career high five touchdowns eh eight games to be played. The problem is he seems like one of those guys who you're going to pick the wrong week to play. Because Jordan Akins is still available. They run on a lot of two tight end sets he is merely a streaming tight end option for me at this point for the Jaguars I thought Menchu was was much better and man. He's doing a nice job getting the ball. Dj Chuck and others Dj Charge after a couple of quiet games. He gets twelve target. He gets in the the end zone. One thing. We need to keep an eye on. What is the status of Dede Westbrook? He came into last week with that shoulder injury. He left early with the shoulder injury and that becomes really the important because against this banged up Houston Secondary I think men she was a viable streaming quarterback but DJ charcoal at twelve targets touchdown. Last week he is a High Ryan wide receiver to this week. But if Dede Westbrook doesn't go I could be interested in. I could be convinced to play. Chris Conley this week. A communist stepped up the last couple of weeks. He has seven catches for one hundred. Eighty six yards and a touchdown on fourteen targets into good matchups against the bengals in the jets. However this is another good match up we talked opt about the deficiencies that the Texans have in the secondary? So Chris Conley if Dede Westbrook doesn't play it's a viable streaming option this week if you really need to look on the lower end plus they also don't have. Jj Watt so that hurts the pass rush so that's interesting For net how how you feel about him If there's a guy that you need to bet on to have twenty five touches any given week I think I I would bet on Christian McCaffrey and second. I would bet on Leonard Fournette. I'm not sure it's the greatest match ups here. He struggled in his last time out against the Texans. He's up near if not over. A thousand yards from scrimmage this year and has only only one touchdown there is positive touchdown regression coming for Leonard Fournette. Who is playing better football it is worth pointing out? Yes I know on his first carry last week against the jets. He had a sixty six yard run and gained just ten yards on his other eighteen carries but the thing about four net is that he is seriously involved in the passing game. Another seven targets gets last week he is a locked and loaded rb one. Let's dive into the colts. I'm sorry let's dive into the bears and the Eagles bears offense in. General is ugly especially in the Red Zone Joe but they did get David Montgomery going and Alan Robinson. It's still good football yet. He's really good. Unfortunately for the bears and Matt Nagy he had to answer the question this week. Are you playing Mitchell trubisky. and Ross. You know when that question gets asked it's over. I know he still the starting quarterback as of now. But it's over I. It's barring a a significant turnaround Mitchell. trubisky is not going to be the quarterback of the next year and the presence of Mitchell trubisky as the star has really limited. What we can do with this offense? It's Alan Robinson who will see if the eagles make a move here. Their secondary has been better since getting jalen mills and Ronald Darby back. But Alan Robinson I am I have in my lineup. As is a wide receiver to and it was good to see David Montgomery thirty two opportunities last week. twenty-seven carries and five targets but Matt Nagy didn't trust him at the end the game to gain an extra couple yards on. What could have made that field goal for Eddie Pineyro a little bit easier so there still seems to be a lack of trust level and David Montgomery and as we know? Oh that Eagle run defense is really good. It's part of their defense. That really aside from one game as against Ezekiel Elliott has not been exploited all year. So we know Oh that this is not a great match to be playing David. Montgomery in despite the thirty two opportunities last week he is more of an or be two on the low end. Flex Xipeng play for me. Alan Robinson is the Guy I am playing as a wide receiver to everybody else from the bears with this Beleaguered Mitchell trubisky. I'm ignoring during the rest of them. Got It okay. And then on the flip side for the eagles they ran it very effectively still going though against a pretty good bears. Defense embarrassing fence being overshadowed of course Ross by By the fact that the Patriots were getting it done. I will say this though the bears I have been really beaten up on the ground. The last couple of weeks They've given up six touchdowns to running backs over the last month. A number of hundred yard rushers will see the status of miles sanders. Who left that bills game for the eagles with a shoulder injury? Everything seems to indicate he is fine. And you have to point out this is Jordan Howard word revenge game and the Eagles are five point favorites. I wouldn't be surprised if the eagles make a move here soon for a deep threat. If this would become a closer talk touchdown I would anticipate Jordan Howard to get the ball fifteen to twenty times in this game. I am firing him up rb to I am firing miles sanders up as is an RB three flex type of option. This week. That would be by focus. I will reevaluate Carson wentz status if the eagles if we get positive news was on the Sean Sean Jackson end or if the eagles would require a speedy wide receiver on the perimeter today at the trade deadline. I would think there's more upside for went but I do expect this is going to be like most of the eagles offense recently built around the run game and with those tight ends Erz and especially Dallas Gutter across across the middle of the field has gotten is forgot it recently because he really needs players who can make plays after the catch because he doesn't have anybody who can get open down the field and those two guys the guys who have been doing the most after the catch for the Eagles have been Dallas got her and miles sanders. And that's why those two guys have been the focus of the passing game anything else on the eagles side of things before we move onto colts dealers. Yeah I understand that Zacharias has been really really disappointing. I think you just have to roll with him. The problem circuits even at his best was never yards after the catch guy and right now got her gives them more in that department. Things will look better for Zakar. When when does Shawn jets? Jackson gets back end or if the eagles were to acquire a deep threat at the trade deadline. Somebody that can be that can opener to take the top off the defense and and make the windows bigger across the middle of the field because everything right now so restricted. You saw you saw for the bills last week. They put tra- Davis obvious white their top corner on soccer's this is because the nobody fears the rest of the eagles receiving weapons. The Eagles need to address that. Whether that's by getting to Sean John Back Jackson back making a move or both. It's the colts At the steelers and other Sunday one o'clock game the colts weren't really impressive. Offensively on Sunday against the broncos. They found a way to get it done. What do you think for them on the road? Against instance dealers while the steelers defense is really impressing me and I. I will still contend that I think the minkah Fitzpatrick trade was a huge mistake for the steelers. I don't think they're contending for the playoffs. And I don't know how you're GonNa feel any better about that. After watching them on Monday night against the dolphins their defense is good. Though you make a fitzpatrick is a good player. So so jacoby percent was a disappointing option. Last week I actually liked him as a streamer and he made an unbelievable throw at the end of that game to set up the game. Winning field goal to help set set up the game. Winning field goal Throwing while rolling to his right out of his own end zone and he just put it into a narrow window. Ty Elton but other than that the passing game was not very good and you can see that. They're limited weapon wise. It's really T. Y.. Hilton and a bunch of guys that they don't really trust. Otherwise they played Zach Pascal at ninety two two percents of the snaps last week and he had only two targets. That shows you where they're wide receivers are so jacoby percent needs to get on with high end touchdown efficiency and unfortunately family even though he's up near the NFL lead in that category. It's not really something that we consider. Sustainable Okay what. What is available for the colts? What should we be thinking about? Well you would think that the run game is what's going to be sustainable with Marlin MAC now. The offensive line is strong. But they're actually. This is a picture Hickam game a one point line either way depending on where you look at it which means the run game should be able to stay close Marlin got in the end zone last week after a disappointing game he he had twenty opportunities. I would anticipate that Marlin MAC gets the ball up near twenty times in this one steelers James Connor left last night's game at the very end with a shoulder. Injury Mason Rudolph really struggled for a while but but it was a series of individual place. You were there at that game. Ross it just. It felt like a series of individual place for Rudolph or he make one bad play and then one good one and then another couple bad ones and then a couple of good ones. It never felt like they really got into a rhythm with the passing game correct. He just didn't look like he was come from the pocket. Didn't look like You held a ball too long. Finally after Xavien Howard. Ken Webster were both out of the game. He just started throwing nine routes and made some in plays and there were some passenger fearance or whatever the case might be. What do you have for the steelers at home against the colts while Juju Smith Schuster? I liked that. He got the ball down the field last week. That was something that was nice to see Monday. Night against the offense He's kind of a guy who just gotta play as a as a wide receiver fever to and just hope for the best. The colts have appeared to Sierra. Actually shadowing selectively. I wonder if If juice Mr is going to get that treatment although he does play in the slot so that's something that's interesting for me but the one thing I need to point out is the way that they're using Deontay. Johnson Mason Rudolph was back the obvious and he really focused on Dion Johnson. He was back to being a viable wide receiver. Three last week or Monday night. Against the dolphins in three or four games with Rudolph Johnson Johnson has fourteen plus fantasy points in touchdown in each game including two hundred thirteen receiving yards so he is a wide receiver three and he is when they moved Juju into the slot their most explosive perimeter option right now. James Washington is really struggling. He had just one catch on six targets. deontay Johnson is the number two wide receiver for the Pittsburgh steelers and a viable wide receiver. Three in this matchup with the colts. What do we do with running back position? It's a wait and see approach here. It doesn't look like James. Connors injury is particularly serious but Jalen Samuels is on your waiver. Wire you need go pick him up because not only James. Connor dinged up. But Benny Snell got hurt. In the second half of that game left with a knee injury jalen Daniels appears to be getting closer and the thing about samuels is even if Benny Snell was okay to play if samuels goes he's ahead of Snell on the depth chart so jalen samuels at this early stage in the week. When we don't know about James Connor needs to be picked up because he could be in line for a potential big role in a pick? Em football game we can move on then to the jets. The dolphins while interesting game to be breaking down at two fifty PM eastern time. Not Knowing what's going to happen with either one of these teams especially the jets at the trade deadline but as currently constituted. Well we don't know what the jets are going to do. They could trade. Jamal Adams Adams they could treat on bell they could trade they could trade Robbie Anderson the one guy on focusing on is could they get Chris hurn back because Ryan Griffin the tight end score two touchdowns downs last week If if he gets I if Chris Herndon comes back he was. Somebody who is is somebody Sam darnold would really focus on. I think Chris Herndon it could be in line for a big role but it's really really hard right now to say exactly how to value this team. If Robbie Anderson is going to be gone potentially lady on bells going going to be gone I will say this. If Robbie Anderson doesn't get moved the dolphins are unlikely to have Avian Howard in this game. Yeah in fact They just put them on. I R oh yeah oh boy yeah I mean that's a long term player for them he somebody. They've extended somebody that they're not planning planning on a on trading obviously so yeah xavien Howard not in this game. If Robbie Anderson does not get moved on by the way Adam Schefter just reported that they don't expect expect to trailblazer on bell. I would say that the jets here even though they're going to be narrow favorites against the dolphins. Why would you not use Levy on bell in this game? It's been frustrating for fantasy. But he has to be on the RB to radar Okay anything else on on the jets. We hit running back. We hit wide receiver. Why didn't really totally hit wide? Receiver I think for the jets. I mean I would think Jamison crowder would get a ton of targets gets if Robbie Anderson gets moved if Robbie Anderson doesn't get moved he is certainly viable in this match up against the week dolphins secondary what about darnold someone you would consider for streaming and to the Dolphin without Howard or only Robbie. Anderson doesn't get moved. Let's put it that way because because this offensive line is still bad and the dolphins are playing well at battles wells can be expected defensively. Given the circumstances they actually got after Mason Rudolph last on Monday night on the other side the dolphins offensively. They're majoring Mark Walton and precedent Williams rant about a million slants. I don't know why they didn't keep doing that. In the second half yeah. He played eighty eight percent of the snaps and got seven target scheme. Devante Parker are like the mini versions sounds of of of Corey Davis and AJ Brown Tennessee. Where you're like they're kind of roster -able but you'd never really WanNa play them and you only WanNa play? AM and desperation but both of them would be viable wide receiver. Threes in this match up against a jet secondary especially at the jets. Move on from Jamal Adams which is certainly possible as we sit an hour away from the trade deadline here maybe even Ryan Fitzpatrick Super Deep League. You consider maybe for DFS but in the backfield this entire thing belongs to mark Walton. He played eighty seven percent of the snaps. And I know he had a bad fumble but he had eleven carries and six targets and Caylin Balaj might be the worst player in the the NFL. So Mark Walton. This is his his backfield. He's on the RB to radar in a match up. That could be closer than most of the Dolphins Games this year. Vikings at the chiefs another Sunday. One o'clock game. It's interesting one won't start with the Vikings who are really playing well. Oh near the vikings are are playing super. Well now. The question here is What's going to be the status of Patrick Mahomes and I think it's important for both sides here because we need to know what what the projected game flow is going to be? Ross because we don't know that right now you would think now as good a job as Andy Redid last week scheming. Up Things for Matt Moore. The chiefs are obviously going to have higher ceiling. Offensively if if If Patrick mahomes place so Patrick mahomes place the this is going to be a much higher scoring game however either way I expect this to be a big time. Delvin Cook game so far this year. The Kansas City chiefs have given up the second second most fantasy points to opposing running backs. Fire Up Dalvin Cook with with without any hesitation whatsoever. Not that you weren't doing that anyway but he should be a core play for. DFS End in season. Long Dow- Cook. I'm I'm projecting for a huge game this week against the Kansas City chiefs whether or not Patrick Holmes place and then and Receivers for the Vikings. What are you talking about feeling? Well if feeling it plays than I would play him in this matchup against Kansas City. The Problem Lem is we don't have the practice reports just yet and coming off those hamstring injuries. They can be really really tricky. But I do know that Stefan digs has been freaking phenomenal of late. A He is somebody who is on the wide receiver one radar whether or not Adam Zealand plays in this game and by the way by by extension that makes kirk cousins appealing in this game. The cousins to me is much more appealing. If it's projected that he's going to have to go toe to toe in this one with Patrick Mahomes Dan Rudolph for I taught tower. It off just doesn't mean anything to me. They're going to give Earth Smith more targets he. Somebody probably watched down the stretch to see if they use him a little bit more. But right now I don't WanNa play either of these tight ends on the other side but the cheese Matt Moore did some things. WHO's the one question I have for the chiefs? What do we do with this backfield? Because the Shawn McCoy has been fine I wouldn't say he's been ingrate And he had the fumble last week and they took him out. And then they brought in Damian Williams. They're trying to mix Daryl Williams in. It honestly feels like that there at this point. They're they're trying to. They're trying to be a little too cute here Damian. Williams seems like he's been really effective when he's played to me and I don't understand why they are trying to force Daryl Williams in there I don't know if it's a pass protection thing or not but right now this backfield's mess and it's really relegated La- Shawn McCoy to being being a flex at best and you're taking a prayer on the other guys. We'll see if the chiefs make a move at running back here in the next hour but But it it right now i. It's it's it's a bunch of guys and it's really not that appealing though. Of course the ceiling is raised. Patrick Mahomes is out there. The good news for the chiefs tyreek Hill is probably going to see a lot as Xavier. Rhodes and Xavier Rhodes can't run so tyreek hill. I am projecting for a massive game this week against savior roads. He has the name but he doesn't have the legs anymore. Nobody's got the legs to keep up with Tyreek Hill but certainly not Xavier Rhodes. What else for the chiefs should we know about? Well Travis Kelsey caught the touchdown but he dropped one He's he's been kind of frustrating but you just lock and load him a Matt Moore if he goes he is. He's not really a viable streaming quarterback Minnesota hasn't been as top matchup as you think other kind of mediocre against opposing quarterbacks. But I really wouldn't like wouldn't like to use him In this this match up against this pass rush obviously if mahomes goes though. Ross you're firing up. You always play Patrick. mahomes titans are at the panthers another another Sunday. One o'clock game. Titans found a way to win again with Ryan Tannehill. What does that mean fantasy wise law? Unfortunately it didn't mean anything anything for the wide receivers because it was like pulling teeth for them. And if you use Jay Brown you were just up thrilled. that he got a touchdown at the end of the game he caught only two passes it. It didn't get done with Corey Davis which was super frustrating Last week Corey Davis Sausage targets played sixty two percent of the snaps so they had none of their wide receivers played more than sixty two percent of the snaps. The Titans love playing three tight ends sets. They had three tight ends last week. who were up and over fifty seven percent of their snaps and that meant Johnny Smith was kind of their star receiver? And if I'm the titans I make sure Johnny Smith is now my primary tight end. The rest of the the season a Delaney Walker essentially missed his second straight game. It was a full game and most of one other and on seven targets last week. Johnny Smith managed six catches for seventy eight yards words in a touchdown if I if I had Delaney Walker. I mentioned this last week. But if I have Delaney Walker fantasy I'm just I'm I'm cutting him right now. I'm not dealing with that headache of of of whether he's GonNa play or not each and every week the titans need to make an added focus on Johnny Smith. He somebody that they need to get a more targets do because he's really talented. Carolina has been just a overall mediocre to poor matchup for opposing. Tight ends but Ryan Tannehill has really shown A willingness to throw the ball to Johnny Smith. Okay so what about Carolina would we know about McCaffrey. It was a major step back for the amounts ever. Just go Kyle Allen not a good game. He's starting in this one. What do you got? Well I would worry about Kyle and here. Because because they finally cracked the code a teams on getting the throw an interception and he threw three of them. And I think Tennessee while not as good a defense as as a as San Francisco Dean Pees Defensive Coordinator. I think is going to drop some really exotic pressures. And here's the good news for the titans defense. They they've got owned last week by Mike Evans. But Mike Evans has seven inches on both of their perimeter corners. They don't have that problem against. Dj More and Curtis Samuel Daniel who are more of the smaller guys who I think the titans can match up with end Logan Ryan their slot. Corner is one of the best in the entire. NFL At that. So this is a really really tough. match-up for Kyle Allan this passing game I think Samuel and DJ more are wide receiver threes at best in this game. What else I mean? Is there anything else to say. Greg Olsen Greg Olsen is one of the single most boring fantasy assets on planet earth. Played Seventy eight percents of the snaps last week and he got two targets. The titans have actually been exploited by tight ends but unfortunately my streaming play of Cameron break. Didn't come through last week. The titans were able to slow him down force turnovers. This is a bad match up for everybody. In my opinion except for Christian McCaffrey because Christian. McCaffrey has a good matchup against everybody. This is a bad matchup though. This is the defense that just four turnovers with James Winston. And we're looking at Kyle Alan. WHO's had a fumble who's had a fumble problem and then threw three interceptions last week? This is a really bad matchup for the Carolina Panthers last one in this episode Joe. It's though Redskins Redskins your way at the bills. Yes they strike me as a big fantasy game You know and Rossi you should be setting lines out in Vegas. Because I'll have some news for you. This is by far the projected lowest scoring game of the week with Washington in in Buffalo at thirty seven points. That is four points lower than the jets in Miami and Tennessee Carolina so the the markets by far have this as the lowest scoring game of the week and I totally agree with you not a great fantasy game one of the things. I'm focusing on for the buffalo bills. Are they going to get Devon single. Terry who's just a more EXPLO- uh-huh supplier than Frank Gore the ball more and he scored last week against the Eagles on a screen pass. I think they need to get him the ball more. The problem is until we actually we see them commit to it. It's hard to trust him. has anything more than a flex play. And it's really frustrating. So right now I have Devon single terry as a low end flex Frank Frank Gore as a low low low end flex I have. I have John Brown as a high end wide receiver to against this bad Washington. Secondary Josh Allen As a stream worthy quarterback against this defense but the rest of it Not really a whole lot unless you WANNA throw Cole Beasley into a into a lineup at as As kind of a low end wide receiver three and see if he scores like he did against Philadelphia Heart to get much of a read though on that buffalo passing game last week in those nasty windy conditions edition that they played against Philadelphia. Yeah I tell you. What Allen's mobility's impressive? That's that's the thing. That's the best part of what Josh Allen got going owned by four. Oh there's no doubt about it and you could see last week watching that game against Philadelphia again Wi with respect to the conditions. You can see why he's a very frustrating castrating player to root for but be why he also must be so frustrating. The play against because I could count multiple times. Eagles had him wrapped up and all of a sudden he manages to escape escape into into a wide open middle of the field and pick up ten yards on a scramble on the other hand. How many times did we see him? Escape pressure only to either overthrow fro under throw a wide open wide receiver that he certainly somebody who's frustrating to to to root for and frustrating the play against but damn as a neutral observer. Ross he is fun to watch. You just never know what you're going to get on any play with him both good and bad and that makes them a flood. Watch for me on the Redskins side. How about Various Geiss Darius guys. It looks like they're going to plan for him to be back. Maybe not this week but in the near future and unfortunately that would just is muddy things up in this backfield because Adrian. Peterson's been playing really well but Peterson I actually talked to him. A couple of weeks ago on Sirius. Xm And he talked about the mindset of getting more more carries where he just gets into a groove he gets into a comfort zone and if dairies guys is coming in and taking carries will. Then there's going to be guys. N Peterson not getting in the comfort zone. We don't know about. Chris Thomson with a toe injury. He's actually my preferred running back here And unfortunately for Terry McLaren he's going to get shadow coverage coverage from Davis White. So Terry McLaren is a serious downgrade to a wide receiver three. I don't like any of the running backs with the exception of maybe Thompson if he plays against Buffalo Hello. 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HR 3: Jalen Ramsey isnt the only one who wants to see DeShaun Watson in LA.

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HR 3: Jalen Ramsey isnt the only one who wants to see DeShaun Watson in LA.

"Yes thanks for listening. We appreciate you guys. That means a lot to us. You can always reach out to us on twitter at la ireland. at venice. mace. You can always email venice. Mesa gmail.com john. What's your email address. Venice said g mail dot com. There you go and Yeah it's been fun show today show. So last night lakers lose in detroit. It was a huge upset. Anthony davis wasn't playing the shut forty one percent from the field. They had their worst quarter of the year in the fourth quarter. Where things just. They just went ice cold. John was your on what happened last night. I don't normally didn't play well. And frank vogel after the game said we should win this game. They just made nothing in the fourth quarter. At one point mace. They went almost seven minutes without scoring a point. And so over course of a seventy two game season. That's going to happen. I tend to and maybe this is just me. I know frank can't afford to do this and the players don't do it but any game that a d. or lebron misses and last night. Ad missed that game. I don't worry about too much reason. The lakers are the team. They are and the reason. They're favored to win. The title is the one two punch of lebron. James and anthony davis is impossible to contain or defend if you take one of them out of the game. Those really aren't the lakers. I mean you can work on habits like kouzmines said it's kind of a rehearsal for the postseason but when they have lebron ad. And i expect we'll be back tomorrow night against the celtics. I always think they're the team to beat. Take one of them off. The board and figuring out have games like last night. So stephen a on i take and i haven't heard this but it sounds intriguing. He said he's concerned. About anthony davis if i'm anthony davis here's what i would say to. Anthony davis my brother. You're finally being recognized. The greatness deserve is one of the top players on the plan if lebron james at age thirty six in his eighteenth season is playing more games and more minutes than you we got. That should not be happening because what lebron is doing and what i believe he should be teaching. Anthony davis is. That is one thing when you're a star or superstar quality talent. It's another thing when you the headline. So he's talking about just anthony. Davis is apparently not gonna play back-to-back. Says that is i know. He has played back to split on three different occasions this year. He has not played back. So i think they're just going to do it by feel but don't you think here's a here's hi would come back at stephen a. The lakers the miami heat were the only two teams that played deep into october right. Okay they had a seventy one day. Break the miami heat is broken right. Now jimmy butler. Although he's just listened to miss questionable. For tonight i think the heat have a record of five and ten. I mean they they just. I think they're exhausted. Yeah the lakers are deep. They go eleven deep so they're managing minutes and making sure. That anthony davis lebron. Don't burn out like it appears jimmy butler has burned out in miami. Yeah a thursday night game on the second night of a back to back in. Detroit is a perfect night for anthony davis if his if his muscles i think it was a quad says to frank. Vogel my quads. A little sore. of course. they're not gonna play him. I that's just arrest night. We should be so. That's that's the first thing. I would say st the second thing is you run. You're playing a weird game when you start comparing anybody to lebron. Even anthony davis right. And i think at one point in that clip stephen said if lebron james is playing more minutes than anthony davis. We got a problem. Don't lebron james is superhuman like look at the damage between me and you. I work like all day and all night into lake games. Never take time off. You concentrate on the bulk of the work for this show but you take a time off to you and said hey mace. We need you to work the laker games at night. And we need you to not take any two weeks of vacation. i totally passed. You would go out and they say. Their reasoning was ireland. Does that. it doesn't matter different. People have different make-up's right. You know and so. I don't want the lakers. Playing anthony davis on the second of a backpack in detroit. Stephen a i think it's i think a lot of ways. It's negligent way. Lakers are doing exactly the right thing. The one of the new year's resolutions that i made here on the show was that i would not take vacation. Good luck until february going coming up just got one in going to get a couple of days in. Yeah i i get super fried so it would be in this scenario. You're anthony davis. And i'm lebrun so in other words if the managing came to you and said look ireland works one hundred nights a year and he doesn't take any vacation mason. You don't work any nights and you take more vacation than anyone here. We need you to be more like ireland. Yeah that's an unrealistic compromise for you. You have a different makeup than me. You don't wanna work that much correct play. But but doesn't that. Make anthony davis a or actually lebron aka john ireland kind of like they kind of makes me mad no because libra. I'm really happy with the way things work at one job complements the other. I mean john's got two jobs i like. I like the way it's all worked. I think lebron plays by the same standard. They jordan and kobe did and this is it. he never knows. Lebron never knows if that's the one night that somebody's going to tune in to watch him play. They may have never seen him play before. I heard kobe jordan. Say that and so if he feels like he can play. He's playing you know he's it's he knows that it's me they're coming to see. Yeah yeah you know. And anthony davis has had a lot of injuries. What we need at. Anthony davis that he is as close to healthy as he can be when the playoffs start because if he is worthy team to be so he said he had a sore quad. Glad he's telling the truth if he did. And i'm frank vogel or i'm nina shade. The laker trainer. I'm saying you get a sore quad. We're on the second night of a back to back in detroit during a pandemic it'd be dumb to play a guy with the score years let alone anthony day. We've been talking about lebron. James is playing a clear a career low in minutes. Right right. Listen to these lasts. Listen to these numbers. Twenty seven thirty one thirty eight thirty eight twenty nine thirty eight thirty nine thirty six last night. His minutes have been dialed up. And i thought we were gonna keep him more in reserve. That's six of the last seven games over thirty eight minutes. Well what. I would argue. Or when i think the lakers would argue there is. They were managing the game in front of them. Phil jackson used to say you have to play the game in front of you. So i think minute limits for healthy players are crap. I think it's why. I think it's why alvin gentry got fired in new orleans here because ion would be killing the other team and they would say no. Pf take him out and scientists say wait. i'm healthy. they said nope. We're going on a minute limit. I think the overall plan is to try and keep lebron at about thirty four minutes. That would be the perfect number but mace if he's played thirty four minutes and there's four minutes to go in a tie game. I don't think they should take them out. And that was what was going on in philadelphia. Yeah thirty eight thirty nine minutes a game at the moment right i mean i think that they have okay so if you watch the games you'll notice that lebron so i gotta come out. He comes out at the six minute mark and they buy them about a five minute break and bring him in at the end of the first quarter if the lakers are winning and the guys out in the quarter doing well the lima for the whole rest of the first quarter and then they bring him back at the start of the second quarter and then they take 'em ad give comes out with about three minutes to go in the first quarter and comes back in the middle of the second quarter so that way either. Lebron is on the court at all times. Yeah but each game's different. Last night i think frank vogel looked up at the scoreboard and went. Are we really going to lose a game in detroit. I'm gonna put lebron out there and see if he can find it and he realized that he couldn't then he emptied the bench. So i think the that lebron's minutes earned a career low and he's the favorite to win the mvp. They're doing something right. Yeah all right so real quick. I want to get this bill barham roles coming up in a minute from espn. He has talked about some realistic destinations for show watching. But i challenged michael thompson. Bill mcdonald on the tv side has got a couple of trademarks. Whenever he says jack in the box he says jack in the box and whenever he says morongo he says morongo good times. Those are two things night. Sorry challenged michael. I said michael. You got a dress this up a little bit man. You got to be a salesman you we've got client. We've got like vista pain we've got. We've got companies that are sponsoring our broadcast. And you're just kind of throwing away. How can we. How can we pump them up and so we challenged michael to pump them up. We gave them a couple of ideas and then last night he actually did it during the game. John one a mythical money bet on first of all here's michael with his vista paint. Read seventy has been sponsored by this debate local residents. You can take forty percent off right now. 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I think adam schefter said as many as eighteen quarterbacks could change spots During this particular off season. And i read a piece from bill. Barnwell is on the line. Yeah we got him okay. Bill wrote a great piece yesterday about possible and realistic destinations. For deshaun watson bill. Thanks for coming on how you doing man going bill. We appreciate you doing this man. So we're you know mason's be ram fan. We're the ram station. There is a lot of people jalen. Rose did it today. Jalen ramsey did it today. That are trying by hook or by crook bill to create this shawn watson to the rams agenda. I i don't see how. I mean less needs aggressive but i don't think the rams have the necessary assets. Can you figure out a route. In which shawn watson could end up on. The rams convince texans that jared goff is a superstar quarterback who's worth a couple i picked on his own. Maybe you got aaron donald involved. I mean i. It's tough to make the math work. Just because they don't have the draft capital they don't have the assets the texas. Unless you're trading you know one of your star players like jalen ramsey or and aaron donna which doesn't make much sense for them financially. The creates another problem For an upgrade quarterback so You never wanna say never and the rams have been incredibly aggressive when it's a guy they want. They will try and moving earth to get a deal done. But you've talked about a deal where you're getting. Hopefully maybe a first round two first. Round picks routine for jared goff and then packaging knows picks maybe future first rounders kick out and get the shawn watson. Just seems pretty unlikely given the circumstance. Yeah but i mean it's shawn watson. don't you move. Don't just say here's the roster pick who you want and we'll give you a two or three number one draft picks. We want to sean. Isn't there a deal there. I mean actually guys. I if the texans did that i came back and said hey listen you have to include aaron donald and three first round picks. Would you guys do it done really. Wow i i do think that they are going to get an offer like that bill. We're talking to bill barnwell. Nfl bill isn't some gm going to do that. I mean there's thirty one other teams in the nfl to shawn. Watson is a young quarterback who's controlled who puts up monster numbers it only takes one isn't one. Gm going to overpay and put together something like that. Someone will do something crazy. I do believe that. But i just you know i i have to wonder what overpaying would even be here. We're talking about a guy who there's no right flags. This is not jay cutler. When he was traded for two first period go with oh he's jay cutler you know he's fine but he's not a guy on shawn watson stuff she wants. His logged by his teammates loved in the community of houston loved by his fans. So no issues. There's no blacks terms of his personality or the intangibles a leader a with winning in his background going back at his time at clinton A guy with great numbers a guy who has been very successful as a quarterback out the pro level at scheme transcend player to me like. There's just you know maybe you say the acl's or the one thing that concerns you but if you're ever gonna make the herschel walker trade player in the nfl. There's only a handful of guys who even qualify. Patrick mahomes patrick. Holmes isn't getting traded That might be it. You might might be number two on that list and for this to happen where you have a twenty five year old guy who's only do fifteen million dollars next year on a contract The texas have already paid sick portion of that extension. So he's going to be cheaper than guys. Like baker mayfield and josh allen when they signed extension in the next few months like like this is a wanted a several decade opportunity. And so you know there's not a number that would shock me like i i think the baseline is three first round picks where you start but if a team went out and said hey we're going to give you five picks shawn watson. I couldn't really felt like. Yeah but that's the opportunity. The guy to watch them have to go for it. He's a franchise quarterback for a decade. Yeah it's it's bill. You put that you put that wisely. There may have never be guide this good available in the nfl at least not in modern history. Now the other name. And we're talking to bill barnwell bill. The other name that has been tied to the rams. today is matthew stafford. Do you think that's realistic. Stafford ends up on the ramps. I do. I mean obviously there are from tie if there now with homes going to The lions take over as the gm. They're back home. Of course being formerly with the rams so was involved with each eric dot process when they direct jerk off originally. I believe So that this nickel baccio kind of fit there. The tough part is making draft picks work and sort of figuring out what the lions would want in return. But the number. I've heard around the league for matthew stafford is two first round picks about the rams. Don't have their first-round pick this year because jalen ramsey traits. So if you're the lions are you willing to accept maybe a one and a two in the future and gerry. Goffin matthew stafford because i think the other teams like the broncos maybe the niners. We're willing to give true. I i'm a i under- in the middle of the first round in twenty twenty twenty one. Excuse me that they can draw for right. Now is the rams are going to have to offer maybe a little more or package gov as part of the deal to get that matthew stafford trade done absolutely. I think that's more plausible than to shawn watson going to the ranch. Yeah you mentioned. It's brad homes right brad home soon as a former college director for the ranch. He he knows that rams roster i mean he knows where their gold to me that gives the rams an advantage if they're going to try to deal for stafford right hundred percent and i think it makes the process easier. Obviously you know. They're on different sides but these are people who know very well back home from sleep so you think they're going to be working together amicably. Obviously you want to try and win the deal. Still but You know. I do feel like jared goff. Stock is pretty low right now so i think from rams perspective dealing with someone who already thinks. Hey this guy is a franchise. Quarterback probably helps you out. Well let's see what the elsewhere are available elsewhere. If you want to move on from jericho don't you think it's weird that. What less need did this week. His press is very weird press conference where he said well. He is on the roster as of fried wednesday the twenty six or whatever day that was. He's not helping the value of jared. Goff it was a weird it was. It was depressing the value of gov on the market right. Yeah here's the weird thing about this and you can say what you want to. Eric costs i have been you know what i think. He's a solid quarterback. I don't think he has the talk to your ceiling. Hope for obviously he can get hot. He doesn't get hot but outside of kirk cousins in washington where they were calling him the wrong name and press conferences and publicly talking about the offers you turn down and misleading the public. Try and get the public on their side with washington. A few years ago. I can't recall a situation. Where team was so outwardly. Critical of their quarterback. Especially for a guy who you know. For years with jared goff had a bad game sean. They had good things to say. Let's meet a good thing. Say oh well jared goff becky's gonna be fine. He's still our quarterback. He's still our guy he's playing great. It was one bad week or it was a bad starter. It was bad weather. Or whatever jared goff now has a pretty rough season but comes from them injury. He plays well in that playoff loss. I mean game. He didn't really do very much. But it wasn't even expected to play and then a week later he was like he was bad. Game for a guy who was from thumb surgery. and since. Then it's been jared our quarterback right. now oh we can make copy with valerie. Coptic rid of jared. If we need to you know. I it just seems so strange. This guy that they were so invested in that they had such a strong belief in publicly based there now publicly doubted i. I don't think it helps value. I don't think it helps us confidence. I think if you were jared goff be hard to feel like you were very wanted by this organization. If they're basically saying we can do better than you. We're gonna take that shock right now. Bill barnwell who covers the. Nfl is joining us. Bill last thing for me. The rams had a ton of turnover on their coaching staff. Other than sean mcvay. They're bringing in raheem morris to be the defensive coordinator two or three different assistance left. Is that something or nothing. I know they're just turnover on staff every year but the rams seemed to have a lot. Do you think that's significant. Do you know obviously coaching teachers. Give me for the better. I mean look at brandon. Nearly coming for phillips that would have been a. That was a major question. Mark before the season and andbranch daily did great. I think they're wipe job. No disrespect wade. Phillips awesome but ended up being a situation where rams felt pretty good about it. Now you lose daily while we're he. Morris is a very solid defensive. Coach improved the falcons defense which was a mess before he took over in the lead role. But we can't be if you're going to have to number one football next year. I think it's hard to say so. I think having day there for so many years. Now having o'connell sticking around kevin o'connell the does help But i do think there's going to be some growing pains than Unfortunately you know. That's going to hurt. The rams i think early twenty twenty one where. Maybe if staley house that they'd be able to keep that coaching staff. They kind of would have been able to sort of take what they had in twenty twenty and take the positive from it and kind of pushed that forward twenty two and now it's almost like starting over in some places so i think it'll part but obviously having it's going to be the big difference maker. Hey bill great stuff. bill barnwell. Espn always great analysis. We appreciate your time a lot. Thanks for coming on man. Thank you bill. There's bill barn. Yeah the what he did. I mean he depressed the value of jerry gothi. He turned him into an untradable asset. Didn't he no. he did not help. The i've learned. I've learned no one is untradeable. And i think we're going to find that i understand. But if you're gonna trade somebody you indicate that he's good not that he's bad you indicate that he back and he's got upside and i agree with you not that he's done but i've seen contracts that you thought me and no one will ever take that contract and then all of a sudden trade coming up next for you john. If i had an extra fifty five million dollars. I will tell you what i would do with it. That's coming up next for you and we got game a games at three forty five at johns game today so we can't cheat and then four o'clock i'm just for that. I'm going to tip the game towards the fourth clock. We've got purgatory george nelson here mason ireland seventeen. Espn spe- Sent to the sports sports sports. That is a beautiful jingle. He's doing ave maria hours. Yeah to ave. Maria you can email an mp three to venice mesa. G mail dot com. That one i can go into rotation. I think that was fun. I thought the other one is good to the other and mine was really. Yours was not good but the to from listeners. I so if i had a spare fifty five million dollars. John want to what i would do with it. What's that right now. Space x is going to fifty five million dollars. Send you to the international space station where you will stay for one week and then fly you back. How great would that be. How amazing would that be. Wouldn't even spend fifty five thousand one on you would not want to experience. What what No gravity feels like what it's like to launch and iraq like for reopen approval. See when no gravity field you you seriously that holds no appeal for you. Whatever your you do not have an adventurous spirit. No i do not i. Space travel does nothing for me even like traveling. The world does nothing for you. It depends where i'm going. Yeah but mostly it's like you say i won't pelican hill right you. You say stuff. Like i wanna go to prague. Yes i'm like what. What in the world. Well wow awesome cool. Does it in prague. Let me lumbia. Nicaragua el salvador costa rica. All week i went. Yeah but no. No they're all great spirit. I have no desire to go to cold places and space sounds pretty damn cold lindsay. What about you fifty. Five million dollars for a week on the international space station. I don't think i'll ever sniff that kind of money in my. But would you if i gave you an extra fifty five million of course. Yeah of course. I think you'd be crazy not to get back or hey. What about new not the station. Maybe the now the species that's even harder space station. You're just going to be cool exactly if you go to the moon. You're i mean you. You're going to be there for a long time. It's once in a lifetime. Lindsey i watch lifetime little. When i was younger. I used to watch a lot of nickelodeon and like one of the best prices on every one of the game shows double dare and legends of the hidden temple and stuff was a trip to space camp and like they show the kids. And there's this big giant ball. That like i dunno. It's like an empty sphere and you're inside of it the flip you around and stuff like you're anti gravity space camp thought for sure when i was let's see it would have been four years old when man landed on the moon and my mom and dad were on vacation. They had taken a trip to Pebble beach or san francisco or something like that and so i was stumbled. Beat now. that's a trip go on pebble beach in the space so i sing with how and godoi others the demo release. They were the babysitters for us. Right and mrs dem really put me in front of the tv and said i want you to remember this. Always this is. He is on the moon that you look. She explained the whole thing to me and so because she took the time to do that. I remember so clearly watching it and even as a four year old being in complete and total awe. Okay so here's i. I don't wanna ruin four-year-old mace but you know. Did you ever see the movie. capricorn one. oh stop. It was a sound stage in studio city. They didn't really go to the moon. You were double murderer simpson alleged. Yes alleged yeah there are people. There are people that believe every conspiracy. There are people believe that we didn't go to the moon. I think that's just a garbage trash idea. But the idea of going to the international space station you do for me. What's that can you imagine. The number of instagram followers would get. Oh please it's also the grand man. That's all yeah seriously go to a sound stage and tell everybody you're on the moon. People are dumb enough to believe it. I've done so many stupid things in my life that i now love like living on a billboard for two weeks i did that i was buried alive six feet under for forty eight hours. I was frozen in a block of ice for forty eight hours for two days. I've done so. I wrote a when you were frozen in the block of ice. Did you have modern conveniences. They can other could like so you. You couldn't even take go the bathroom. You just peed in your pants. No the deal was for forty eight hours leading up to the forty eight hours in the block of ice you could. I didn't eat drink. It doesn't sound healthy. I did it for a radio station. In toledo ohio frozen. A block of ice did you. Did you say when you were buried library. Like hey amazing. Buried alive live to ford. Come out johnson. Ford see me buried in a hole by the way tonight once. Meet some night wants did we were the angel station. And the angels were in a tight. I think this was the year. They ended up winning the world series. Two thousand two. They were in a tight battle with the as for first place in the american league west and we had the angels as the weekend. It was on a friday night. Saturday night sunday day so on thursday. I think we're doing afternoons then. On thursday at three o'clock we started doing our show and we stayed on the air until friday at six pm. Leaves twenty four hour pre-game show and it was actually longer than that like we ended up doing like twenty six or twenty seven hours and we had a really good time doing it. It was actually really fun mesa. But i will say this now. This station gave us credit for that. None like they we. We promoted the crap out of it. We had listeners bringing us like donuts and coffee and remember. We were playing wiffle ball in the parking lot and brought in a listener every hour to co host the show and they were all the night somebody and they were all rate and i can't remember who are boss was at the time but they went. Okay good for you blah. Nothing so we've never done it again. 'cause we were totally unappreciative of our. I would do it anytime. I mean anything to drive the show man we want. We want to engage people on. We wanna do goofy ship stuff goofy. What almost slipped off. I would like to say. Yeah i mean you imagine spending fifty five million and you only get like ten hours after you would get shorty follow. It would crush them. Oh gee live and you'd have you know fafsa million people on it so you wouldn't do it for some reason. The i was down correct off the ground. By the way you can follow me at venice. Mace mash on instagram. And good luck with that. Yeah all right. Coming up next for is game of games. it's john ireland's game today. And i will tell you this john. You have already clinched the month. Okay so this should. This should open up the games for next month. So you guys can get a lead on me okay. Yeah let's start will start february today since john already polished off. He's won six of the last eight months of game of gin lindsay one. The other two. Yes and mays i am. I've yet to scratch stu. Lantz would say steve mason and john ireland and achieve. Tommy chong game sponsored by power fro plumbing and heating powerful professional affordable. A two they are. It's in their name. They are our plumber and they wanna be yours to call one eight hundred five eight. Four forty-one sixteen or visit power pro plumbing dot com. it is. We're gonna call this. The first game of the month of february. John has one. January eight is john's game today so me lindsay. And hey have a chance to scratch as do lance would say all right. Let's see who twenty guys will take the lead. In the month of february. I have a list of hard to believe sports fax. Some are real. Some i made up. Let's see you do all right. Here's the number one. Arnold palmer one sixty two times on the pga tour including seven majors. But when rory mcilroy won the last players championship he made more money in one price. Check palmer made in. Price checks during his entire. Pga career lindsay. Is that true. Or is that false. That sounds true. True or false. Go with true. Mace true also gonna go true. It is true. I thought i would three guys up because paul has made so much money off the course but that is true. Drink roy macaroni. Arts everybody's on the board all right number. Two in nineteen sixty two wilt chamberlain averaged fifty points and twenty two rebounds a game but when he won the mvp award. It wasn't unanimous writer. In boston voted for bill russell. Instead whore is that true or false also true mace. i will say that false lindsay break. The tie slamming a true. It is false mason. Gets the point. Russell won the mvp in sixty two wilt didn't even win it. Wow so so may says to and lindsay has won all right. I gotta let you guys in on something okay. I actually right before the game. I said as a joke george. I texted george george. I'm going to throw the game to you. And i gave him the first couple of answers. Any still missed it. Oh text me or given an open book. Test and usa ed's irs and all right next one unbelievable. The average golf ball has one hundred sixty three dimples maze true or false true lindsay. False george false. It is false and it's all tied to you. It has twice that three hundred thirty six three hundred and thirty six all right next one. The current american record holder in the one hundred yard dash is justin gatlin. Who ran nine. Point one in twenty fourteen but gatlin lost the texas state high school hundred in fact he finished fourth. A guy named nigel. Talton won that race in. Nfl corner former nfl corner orlando scandic finished. second lindsay. true or false. True false may break the time. It's awful lot to make up. I'll say true it's false. I completely made up nigel. Touton is that guy that place is the flash in atlanta who races against fans. I just made it up all right two more to go if you look at the list of the top one hundred career batting averages in the history of major league baseball only two players are still active. One is miguel cabrera and the other is jose. Altuve true or false defer true. I'll go false okay. mace. I'll go false lindsey august true. It is true there's only two of them. That's it all right. Actually i have a couple more. And i have a tiebreaker. All right so right now. It's lindsey three eight three mace. To of course all right to left and then the tiebreaker summation need one of these. There have been ten three petes in the nba nine in the nhl seven in major league baseball but there has never been a three peat in the nfl super bowl era lindsay. True or false false whore. Hey true mace. i'm going to say false horror. Hey takes the lead. That's one hundred percent true. There's never been a bad areas. Never been a three peat in the nfl superbowl era. There have been ten in the nba. Nine in the nhl and seven in major league baseball games like green bay may have done or they won the first two. But that was it. That's when the streak right now. Okay so a tour four lindsay three macy lawrence down the answers in front of you. What answers Okay so here we go. I'm gonna make. I'm gonna let lindsay go last whore. Hey lindsay rasheed. Wallace had his two thousand and four pistons championship ring re sized to fit his middle finger. Is that true or false. False lindsay's go and false. Going through jorges wins it. Anywayjohn gave him the and still questions. And that's the last time i took my game to you. You can't even take a gift to change because you re able to. George george is the only honest one in the bunch. I think you invent games specifically so i can't win them things i don't know and things i have no experience. You missed the that's false. You miss the one question. But then i thought you would get the one hundred career batting averages. Only two players still active cabrera. Altuve as you said false. It's true he's winding thousand dollars. You're away. sodano has supported what we're calling the whiny he says conduct detrimental to the show. And you deserve a fine. Let me say this. I heard their show yesterday. Wasn't that good. I coming up next for. you is purgatory george. Now z are going to jump in mason ireland seventeen. Espn the f. is full sodano. What it's so funny with. Chris morales. I were talking about just radio in the old days like how you could get away with more right. Oh yeah and whether it was even language right like just language that you would say and bits and every and the really the whole swimmer janet jackson changed everything like that was really the super bowl. That changed everything malfunction. Yeah we i was there. That game Was talk we were you there for the wardrobe budget. No no no no. I didn't know you back then. So i don't know what the But i was saying that pre that moment. Right the janet jackson wardrobe the entire landscape was different. You could you could say the word for but right and not and maybe not have to deal with any ramifications like immediately after that. We couldn't say a word like anything even remotely was considered slightly remotely controversial. So i was talking about those days like man that was like full sodano back then i used to use the b word on the air were used jam. Yeah what other words he words. Yeah yeah that was one. You could get away with back now. It's appropriate you know you can't you can't say it at all and i mean on cable you can say those words but not unlike radiator like that were television. So that's what we were talking about. And then he turned it into this a little bit earlier today I got in trouble with the gang here. Show because i need you guys. We need you guys to be arbitrators of this said. I've said the one thing the one thing that bothers me the most about mason is that he winds about how he's not having a good show or this is the worst show. he's done all or bubba. He's very the have nowhere to go with that. When announces i hate this show. This show was terrible today above. I'm being honest. I'm being real with. We're sick when you were sick. You doing that so we've instituted a new wining policy l z. And that i. We're able to fine anyone on the show. But he's he's of the biggest offender rebel to find anyone on the show. Who is guilty of weiming about something like that. So we think whore hey lindsay and i think that mason wind and north of five hundred dollar mythical money. We've we've cued up the tape and we're going to let the two of you okay. Aside jorges hit it. Why don't you give it to me for a change because you leaving. George george is the only honest one in the bunch. I think you invent games specifically so i can't win them things i don't know and things i have no experience and you missed the one. The that's false mason wining in that clip l z. You go i no. That was the clinton was there was the clip. was i wanted at all house. Waiting for whining. All right george. Give me one more time. I think you invent games specifically so. I can't win them things i don't know and things i have no experience. You miss sodano. I mean it's why knee for sure. I would vent games that. I can't win because i am mason. I gotta win every game bill. Is it true. No i just make aims and then let let the winner win complain. Why would i. Why would i spend extra time. Ponting game here see so. My mom loves to cook for us and when she cooks for us but there are certain. Dishes that steve just doesn't he just doesn't eaten every single time she makes those dishes. He doesn't eat them and she goes. Steve doesn't like my cooking and it's like that is an altogether true. So you're not miss that a wine or is it like something you know something that scenario your mom is just making an observation. It's an observation to it. I was just. There is no winding guy. He didn't win the game. But i will say this because mason is very competitive. Okay and mason. Would you admit you're very competitive and very competitive. Yes okay because you are very competitive and you didn't win the game. You're kind of doing the. I want to take my ball and go home. No no maybe ball. Hey mace if i invented a game and the game started with. You're listening to abc. Is you're so good at that game. Oh because i'm more competitive than he is. That's why when all these games okay. You're five hundred dollar fine when you brag like i had you guys low to sleep at night of sleep with these games in these issues you guys have a new show and then forget to win that game right. That's the poll. Trick anything to win false sense of security lt patty big announcement at the l. a. times on friday or thursday. You're moving out of sports in onto the op. Ed page so first of all congratulations. But here's my question aren't you. Aren't you going to miss sports. I'm not leaving the opportunity to write sports. I'm leaving these sports department. Because the the promotion. Page that i read was very complimentary to you but it sounds like you leaving sports. That's incorrect as it's like this. I'm moving away from simply eating all the meets at the buffet and i'm going to eat everything else. Eat meat okay. Okay but like are you still occasionally going like if the rams trade like heaven and earth to gwen we get into shawn watson. Is that a potential column for you. It's most certainly could be okay. So l z in the sports section. Not the general section. Does this mean you're on the editorial board of the times that sounds fancy and that's that's we've fancier on up at actually means opposite of editorial board. Oh there you go there you. You're you're going to criticize the editorial board. No you're allowed to. You're allowed to give your opinion on anything you want right exactly which may be an opposition of what editorial board may say are you are. You are so much smarter than the rest of us. Go for you because i need we know know. L z seriously. We need people smarter than us. Yeah i would let people smarter than yeah. We're all screwed. Because if i'm the smartest one in the group are all going to hell all right. So did you guys did a either one of you guys here. The new press conference of the eagles coach today. The internet is were. Were freaking out. Okay so george. Hey to we. Have you still have that clip okay. So l z and toronto. I want you to listen to this. They claimed that they hired this guy serianni because he blew them away with how smart he was in the interview process. And the question. I have for you. You hear this is are. They now are the eagles in their fans now in trouble here is his first press conference in him explaining what he's gonna do is the eagles head coach next thing. That's very important to me. Is that we build a smart football team that we have a smart football team here. And i know we have the people in place to do that. The first part of that the first part of being smart is knowing what to do. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna have systems in place that are easier to learn all right complicated to the defense or offense if they're going against its special teams group. They're going but easy for us to learn because when we can put that because we can learn our system and we can get good at our system then our talent can take over. Less thinking equals talent takeover but we need to have systems in place and we will have systems in place to do so in the last twenty seconds at bite. He said systems six times. L z are the eagles in trouble. Nfl's in trouble that you string together. His his comments were what happened in detroit and they try and tell folks okay. I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Because i don't sit on. Oh yeah yeah. This is three quarters only. I thought i thought i'm with those dan campbell. We had a blast. Making fun of dan campbell. But but i also have history with dan campbell. Because i covered a team he was on. So i i kind of know the personality a little bit. But he's definitely genuine to that kind of meat head persona but this is just talking and circle right dan campbell. I'm like yeah bite the kneecaps. That's fun right. That's that's interesting. That's fun this guy is just rambling about systems. That are easier for guys but harder for other anthropic though and the reason why the nfl's in trouble is because it's behind. The backdrop is that eric enemy doesn't interview. Well is to scuttle bud right so i signed time. You see him talk either. Before or after games on okay. He sounds very reasonable. So then when you roll out these dudes and it's my kneecaps. And i'm gonna have a smart but they're not going to be able to think like what the hell was eric saying that made its rise above. You know. here's what. I which. I don't i'm not even referring to the enemy part of this. I'm just talking about what's this guy's name again nick. What theory onny serianni. Yeah so you could be really smart and be really bad at public speaking. Okay because i know plenty of people will check okay. No bill belichick good public. He's a showman. It's stick with ballots. I don't buy that for a second But you can be really smart and re be a really bad public speaker we listen. There have been people in this business who are excellent reporters right and are not great on camera right so i think that there there is something to that. I'm willing to give him a little bit of a mulligan and see how smart he really is like when we get to the field. Not everybody's going to be polish. Like mcveigh mcvay literally was like birth as coach he. He's like the perfect media coach. Okay s he's fun- he's funny. He's passionate he's interesting right like there's a lot of things there with him if you dig a little bit but like some guys aren't just not good at that stuff. So unlike dan campbell. Who i know what he is right like he is a meat head. I can confirm that. I have my sources are are that i've been there. I know he's a meet ed. So but this guy. I don't know anything about it. But if he's allegedly that smart. I will give him a mulligan only because public speaking isn't always everybody's bag i would. I would totally agree with that. The only thing is the reason. Why the nfl's in trouble just because of the optics and you kiss your rumors. That guy who sounds flawless. Whenever cameras in front of them has problems doing interviews and then you got kneecap guy and systems guy in front of cameras. Sound like complete idiots and we're looking like a what the hell yeah right so yesterday in the show guys. I asked the question. You guys both brought up. Eric the enemy yesterday. I read to mason. A litany of bnb has a troubling rap sheet. But it's all stuff that happened at least sixteen years ago and some of it as long as twenty five years ago. It's not good but it happened a long time ago. Lcd you think that is playing a role in why be anime isn't getting hired or is that just a. Are you asking me if all of all these if the nfl is holding your past against you in terms of nfl advancement seriously. what other what. Other coach has a rap sheet or matt. patricia had rape allegations. He's still ended up at detroit lion coach right. I'm not saying it's almost two twenty five years ago by the way. Yeah my my argument. For if i was the enemies agent i would be saying. Look i sit down with them and talk to him now. He's not the same guy. He was in nineteen ninety three or whenever book. That makes it even worse though. That makes it even worse. Because you're saying it's okay for us to cape for women beaters and drug users and blah blah as long as they're on the field but they can't be leaders as if what either it's the bar is set for. Nfl or the bars not cetera nfl. I don't like the fact that we have Owner who was busted with drugs and money and guns in his car but then we have punishment for a player who gets caught with marijuana like jim. Irsay is a joke that gaps. So it's like there's ridiculous. Cobb craft was crawling around some massage parlor site. You're making the argument that that it. It's a joke to consider it but do you think that's a reality. Do you think that that's one of the reasons why being hasn't been hired. By the way. Bob kraft just needed and aromatherapy yes. That's only needed exactly. Who doesn't like a good aroma. Aromatherapy act. I got a weird feeling with the enemy that that when he gets hired. There's going to be a lot of people that are going to regret passing on them. I don't know what. But i look at that. Kansas city offense a here. How mahomes and andy. Reid tyreek hill talk about him. And i think this guy's got a video game brain and whoever hires them it's going to is going to benefit from that. But i could be dead wrong. You never know. Obviously he obviously is part of running the most successful offense in the national football league. There is no explanation. They say things like. Oh he doesn't call the plays with. Doug peterson and call the plays on andy staff and he got the texans never called plays exactly so they keep trying to move by the way. That's the reason why i said the. Nfl looks bad right. Holly kelly who got hired by the texans who is african american has never been a coordinator before like aired me so there is that because the texans were scrambling because we've found races. They were right for sure by the way by the way guys. Do you think george. I the new. Gm scenario of the texans came out today in the very first thing he said. Is we have zero interest in trading shawn watson. That doesn't matter. Right if shawn watson once out they're gonna trade him right. That's is for what these guys got coming up right. Yeah it's a good taste but we can. We can address the shawn watson part. Okay sure sure we look. I think that he does shawn. Watson is going to call the shots because if you want go ahead if you want to get into this battle with him he can sit out right and then you have a big mess on your hands publicly. Jj watt has literally. apologize to john watson. for how crappy the organization has been like. Think about that. His own teammates are on his side including the next most popular teammate. Okay so yeah. I think that would be a huge mistake if they wanna play hard hardball with him. I think you go and get what. Because here's thing if you if you do that you're going to start losing leverage. Okay you can get a kings ransom for deshaun watson right now probably the most. We've ever seen a quarterback traded for okay because he's twenty five years old and an mvp candidate. But if you do this you're in trouble. And adam schefter before rosie goes you know. We all know how plugged in adam. Adams said this yesterday. I want to say where he said look. It doesn't matter what the texans are going to come out and say call is someone that is respected including by shawn watson. But that's not going to change his mind he wants out and that's what's going to happen guy. He's got coming up on the just want to add. You know from a media. Perspective i think is also incumbent upon us to explain. Why shawn watson once out. It's not about the wins and losses not bailing. Because he can't win the super bowl he's building because of the structure of organization appears to be racist to him. Important part of this element right but that and l z that he also feels like they have told him in the past they would clue him in on decisions and that they clearly did not do any of that as a you know so they lied to him. So i think that also is is a factor here as well what else we gonna coming up george. So we've got a lot of stuff we're going to get into this stuff that you guys were talking about about. The potential hosts matthew stafford being the next quarterback of the rams and all the ties that are there and of course. Nobody knows matthew stafford z. Who's been alliance fan rams fan offer. Yeah exactly so so. We'll get into that. A means gonna stop by. We'll talk about the lakers. There's a bradley beal rumor that we're going to dive into. Who else is joining us. Demarco is gonna stop by and there's some oh and the new chargers head coach brandon's daily cool. I so that's all coming up for you. With george nells definers afternoon drive show in all of los angeles. Make sure you stay here. We're back monday at one. Our friend o'shea jackson junior will make his weekly appearance. At two o'clock. We love shay.

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Best of The Herd: 09/30/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

43:01 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 09/30/2019

"It's eleven fifty nine in Hollywood California and night. Call is on the air. I'm Emily Yoshida. I'm tess Lynch and I'm Molly Lambert and every week the three of us take your calls and discuss our favorite mysteries conspiracies and pop cultural oddities of the week. Give us a call at one to four zero four six night and we'll discuss your ghost stories as an after hours musings on the show new episodes drop every Monday. Listen tonight call on apple podcasts the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts thanks for you're listening to the best of heard podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox sports radio. NFS One find your local station for the hurt at Fox Fox sports radio DOT COM or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox sports radio. Oh here we go on a busy Monday's so much to unpack this is Dr Live in Los Angeles is wherever you may be and however you may be listening we're on Iheartradio Fox sports radio on F s one one hour from now where Colin was right lots of that and were called own was wrong lots of that joy Taylor is joining me all the road teams winning yesterday. The young quarterbacks were they had some tough times. Tom Brady the add top times Patrick mahomes top dives. This is what I love about the NFL just wind Sunday suddenly Cleveland's in. I play ceases. AH YOU'LL lose Sunday. A Houston and you're like Oh man overboard this team. Can it just so great. It was a crazy day ESA Razi Day. Let me start with this so once again we have a Dak Prescott game where you can take two angles. I'll tell you the angle I take which is Dallas had no running game playing a great defense. Amari Cooper could not get open at all Jason Witten fumbled Zeke didn't but it was called a fumble last play the game Dax in position thrown a hail Mary for chance to win or or you could take this angle. What no drew brees saints never score a touchdown? Our defense is unbelievable and we can't. We can't make one play that can't make one huge play and the funny thing is both of those are true. Oh and I'm okay with tell my wife this all the time happiness is controlled by expectations about two months ago. I went to a store with my daughter and bought a bunch of cheap t-shirts. They are about seven bucks a t shirt. My expectation was those will be good for about four washes and they just won't fit and tried to get one on yesterday. It was done four washes when I sit in the back of the plane. My expectations are different then when I'm fortunate enough to sit near the front of the plane. What are your expectations? If you're waiting for jaw dropping with deck that's on you. That's not on back. You know what I saw yesterday from deck. I saw what I get every Sunday from Dak fourth quarter cowboys have a chance to win. Dak Act never makes that dumb young quarterback throw. They never make that throw. He's always never to hire to low emotionally. He's almost sort of you've the classic poker face he'd be a good poker player and when guys are open he hit some I get that I get that every game with that okay so if you're waiting for Carson Wentz and mahomes in Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson that my friend is on you he is not he is not jaw-dropping. He is not breathtaking. He is not spectacular but I'll tell you what he doesn't make that throw that Cam Newton does or kirk cousins does and get you out of the game. He never ever put you in a position where you're like man we played great defense and we're not in the game. You're always always in the game and by the way if you are a cowboy fan that has saying this this morning but he'll never make play that mahomes will carson wentz will or Russell Wilson will you're. You're right and it's it's. It's you know what that's called. Being a realist you have realistic expectations on Dak Prescott and and again you can take any angle you want but did you notice what Dak said after the game. This is also also something I get every Sunday with Dak on us. I think this was about our lack of execution regardless with the way they're doing things. There's a lot of plays left out there. on my part I on this whole offense as part a grownup not taunting haunting a coach. It's not blaming a teammate. It's like we left a lot out there. We can do better and win so my expectations with back against that Saints Defense which is special in fact I think lattimore you can argue. He's the best player at his position in the NFL. Amari Cooper couldn't get this open open. Zeke couldn't run. I've seen kirk cousins in those game when he doesn't have a running game I've seen Mitch Trubisky Trubisky in those games when his best receiver can't get open I've Seen Cam Newton in those games when when when CAM has no running game and they're making mistakes and the game's over Dak Prescott with no running game top receiver can't get open loudest place in the NFL great defense throwing the ball down the field near the goal line. I'll take it I will take that over ninety nine. Percent Of this league not called Patrick Mahomes in Carson wentz shifted this well well well well well Cleveland Brown first place. Oh in Ohio this morning. They are dancing in my football grave judge cake get over that salves. Hey Colin your face. Did you look around the NFL yesterday and did you notice a trend that the young quarterbacks wchs that teams needed to save the day struggled K. Josh Allen we can move the ball here. Save the day lost Baker. We're in a whole our defense stinks saved. The day can't cuyler Murray. You're going up against a better coach better roster and a better quarterback save the day he couldn't but in Cleveland they didn't ask Baker Mayfield to do that. The Cleveland browns rushed for almost two hundred yards almost seven yards. A rush had the ball for thirty one minutes. They didn't ask Baker Mayfield to save their bacon what they asked him to be was managed. The game make a handful of big throws on play action to make sure you were emotionally in a good spot not too high not too low. He threw a pick he didn't go crazy Z. and watch our defense dominate Lamar Jackson Baker Mayfield by the way when he's asked to throw over thirty two times his record is three three and nine when Baker is asked to throw the ball thirty one times or fewer. He's six again expectations. I keep hearing what a great athlete is. News runs a four eight four forty. He's five eleven and a half cuyler Murray could be a major league baseball player. That's great athlete. Okay Andrew Luck quiz a great athlete Tim Tebow Plan Baseball you got if you're thinking that Baker Mayfield that we can play average defense just worry about getting the ball to ob EJ ask him to throw thirty four times curious that is a you problem again that that is not who he is look around the NFL yesterday the young quarterbacks quarterbacks who were not asked too much. We're not asked to save a team. I mean Jared Goff through sixty eight times yesterday. Of course he had multiple turnovers. That's two Sundays like two games so when I watch Cleveland yesterday I'm like Oh. That's a Formula Nick Chubb Twenty four carries in that ballpark play really good defense asked Baker to throw the ball primarily on play action. Can you can do that every week. I can do that every week. Baker Mayfield can win a division. If that's the formula the first couple of games of the year are you are asking Baker to do stuff. He's just not capable of doing. He's not a great athlete. He's fine. He's got good feet. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't have a howitzer. He's not went or mahomes homes or Rogers. She's got a solid arm. Good arm not a great arm. He's a decent athlete. He's done a great athlete yesterday. The Cleveland coaching staff Freddie Kitchens finally lief figured it out. Oh Baker is not going to lead us. Baker is going to manage our great defense didn't I didn't I tell you Nick Chubb. Didn't I keep keep telling you he's going to be he is the Star said this before. The draft said my favorite running back and it was a deep draft. I said GET NICK CHUBB IN CLEVELAND. Finally finally figured it out Baker's not going to be and here's the thing when your franchise doesn't have a star quarterback when you finally get one that appears competent your savior he's GonNa be. He's the baker's not the savior. That's not what he is. What he is is potentially a franchise quarterback? who were the great defense in a running game can make the needed throws and you can win divisions but when you're bad forever when John Elway away leaves Denver and you're trying to make every jake plumber the savior no John elway's a wants an fifteen twenty thirty year franch after Dan Marino you're looking for the savior? Savior is even even Patrick. Holmes isn't a savior because Kansas City was getting to the playoffs with Alex Smith. Patrick Mahomes is not a savior in in Cleveland thinks Baker Mayfield is no yesterday is a formula stop worrying about getting O- BJ touches stop worrying about Baker making plays that make great highlights defense running game play action have him throw fewer than thirty one times. He's six. No that was a nice win by the way. Do you notice this yesterday. All the young quarterbacks that had a running game gardner men shoe had a great running game with Leonard Fournette. One Daniel Jones has taught running back one hundred eighteen yards one kyle Allen Christian McCaffrey is a freak one all the young quarterbacks who didn't ask saved the franchise all the young quarterbacks that run support one. That's the formula maybe when they get older it's not but it is when they're young be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays days noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP according to studies only about ten percent of break ins are planned beforehand the rest spur of the moment burglaries. What's crazy is only one in five home has home security? One in five simply safe is a great choice protects every door Lauren window in room twenty four seven monitoring around the clock fifteen bucks a month. That's it the one thing that makes simply safe. 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It was the monsters of the midway mid eighties were the Chicago bears as the Legion of boom in Seattle right like they all have great nicknames and and if they don't they at least have stars that Baltimore Defense with Ray Lewis and mcallister on the corner and Tony Sarah Gouzerh. There's there's never been an exception a great all-time defense you either got. I have pro bowlers all over it or I've got branding the Patriots yesterday. They have neither dont`a hightower didn't even play their top draft picks. They're on. They're on special teams. They don't play 'em they went to buffalo a well coached good team really well coached team in division so they know their personnel and New England got eleven first downs averaged three yards arosh under four yards words a pass and one dino how hard it is to win in the NFL when you can't move the ball for three and a half hours on the road against the well coached team with the next defense and you win. I mean we liked the rams. Defense right got all sorts of good players. They gave up fifty five yesterday. We liked the packers defense. They gave up thirty thirty four at home yesterday. New England goes on the road and can't move the Rock and winds and there are no stars. I mean last year Thirtieth Korea thin sacks Dante hightower didn't play their top two defensive draft picks this year. They're not playing right now. Like special teams seven snaps New England's defense. Even the most anonymous great defense ever had a nickname the seventy two Miami dolphins. They were called the no name defense. This eighteen doesn't even have that name. They'd make a terrible movie trailer. They'd be an awful movie poster because all the things they're good at are not really attractive unless you're a coach. They're smart. They're sound they're experienced their coach -able disciplined. They're well positioned. You never beat him. Over the top. Everybody in the secondary can cover tackle catch and be coached. I've never I've just never seen a defense. Maybe it's not this good. Maybe it's the opposition. Maybe maybe it's they faced a bunch of cruddy offenses but in my life great defenses had stars they had names they had a brand and and it they usually had two or three transformational players that blue stuff up and you had the double team and I don't get a feeling of that with New England so maybe I'm just over stadium. Maybe they're not that good. I think it's one of the best secondary's I've ever seen in terms of. You never beat it over the top. They can all tackle that can all catch if if you throw the ball in the wrong place you will pay a price for it but it's a very unique defence right now. New England's defense has scored more than it's allowed now think about that in the NFL and I know you can say well. This team's not good in that team's not good in this team's not good and nasty. There's they've they've had like eighty eighty nine possessions this year people have scored on three of them. I mean there's there's stats that say you're good and then there stats that historically don't make any sense dance and what New England's doing right now it to go on the road and have eleven first downs good defense good bubbles team. I ah that's just doesn't happen in the NFL just doesn't work that way be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific head coach coach jets head coach coordinator for years for the New England Patriots Defensive Coordinator and the niners Let's bring in Eric Man Genie. We don't get him on the west coast much. I know I got a steak dinner coming up here in a couple of days and I get the coach know how long in town for by the way I'm here all we oh my lord well. We'll have a little steak dinner this week so let me start with a team that you know well you know their personnel. You know their system. You know their culture. I always feel like the truth of the NFL comes out by the second enter third week in October. Buffalo's had a lot of three starts in September so I look at New England's defense in in my life great defenses have usually had a nickname and two who were three really high end players. The Ravens Defense had McAlister corner a dominating defensive tackle Ray Lewis the Tampa Bay defence with Derrick Brooks are Warren Sapp. I look at this New England defense. Dont`a hightower didn't play their top draft picks. Defensively didn't play much there was was in the right spot and they're very coach -able. Does it look like an all time greats events I mean what do I make it but they're statistically people can't get first downs on them yeah. I think you might be getting a little bit ahead here. Okay they really haven't played any high high powered offenses right. I mean the four teams they've played have all struggled offensively and they're going to as well yeah so you might need to slow that down. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when they do face an offense that can be really explosive but to date they haven't even with the bill situation you you get a quarterback that can do a lot of good things but turns the ball over and they they start the game and and they make a great plan special teams so they're up by fourteen points that game changes the the complexity of the game changes pretty dramatically early on the thing about New England's defense that that they do really well and and the whole system in general is you get a bunch of smart guys that play well together and everybody talks about being game game plan specific so there are certain defenses that teams will run against eighteen but they don't fundamentally change who they are to stop the the team New England is able to fundamentally change each week who they are to stop what you do best and forced to be lefthanded. That's how they're designed. Other people want to do that. It's it's how we operated New England's how they operate now and it's different than most teams and that's what makes them unique and special yeah. They have the ability to just change week to week. That's not really nobody in the league. Does it like that. That's that's you. You've got to have smart guys and you've got a train that way every single week so when you bring that game plan in and it's radically different last week nobody even blinks the you actually look forward Ford what the game plan is going to be because you like the challenge of adjusting and taken away that teams strength and make him play left handed. I'll tell you game I watched and at you know listen. Sometimes I don't know what to take from the rams and Tampa I do know that. LA's running game is not the same. It's just not but take the browns and Baltimore. I don't think Baltimore's that bad. I don't think Cleveland's GONNA dominate them again when they plan like that. I did see from Cleveland a team. You know well you live in Cleveland Cleveland. So you see the shows you see the day everything I did see a formula that seems repeatable. Good defense lower the the penalties run with Nick Chubb. Don't become paralyzed trying to get oh. BJ The ball it seemed to me almost a fairly simple repeatable thing. I I think the defensive fronts excellent and I love Nick Chubb I think you can you can rinse and repeat that a little bit right like that's that feels. Go formula yet it. It is to some degree but when you look at Baltimore here's another situation where where their offense really had played teams that were the bottom end of the defenses. I think it was like thirty thirty one and thirty two points points louder something along those lines and for Cleveland. It's they go into the season. There's high expectations -tations. They add those expectation then they realize hey this isn't that's not a good form of it. That's a horrible formula. They get humbled to some degree and they've got they've got to adjust and the challenge there is managing the personalities. You've got a bunch of big offense personalities. Everybody wants the ball so to go in and say yeah. We're GONNA feature next. Nick Chubb. Well is Odell Beckham going to be happy with Nick Chubb being featured as Jarvis Landry going to be happy with Nick Chubb being featured so is it a good for nick. Chubb is really good. Yes Nick Chubb is really dynamic. Nick Chub can change the types of defenses that Baker Mayfield gets weakened weak out because they're going to have to stop. Stop Him now. It's managing those personalities during the week saying we're not designing twelve plays for you to be the star we're going to run things collectively and selflessly and I don't know if they have the strength of personality and character to do. OB J. by the way seven targets to catches he's had a watch issue of is our issue yesterday. It was an earring issue it to me. I don't think I can I think Oh b. J. is using. I think the cake to me is nick job. I think he's The star Dr The offense he he is the star of the offense but unfortunately there's a bunch of other people who feel that they're the star offense and you can you can throw Baker Mayfield in there too so oh you you need to have a certain amount of selflessness to operate in that space and when you've got a young head coach and a room full of stars and everybody wants her the name on the marquee. It's going to be hard for them and take a step back and say oh no no no you go ahead you start this week and I'll just get my two catches that lasts for about fifteen minutes Minnesota fighting the meeting room right. I get that Eric Mangini joining us. I said to start the show. There's two things you can look at Dak two ways you can look at the fact that listen on the road no running game witten Zeke fumble. Amari Cooper couldn't open from me to this microphone and last play the Game mm-hmm Dax thrown a hail Mary to potentially win or you can say the no drew brees New Orleans move the ball much. Your defense was unbelievable. They didn't score a touchdown and we can't beat New Orleans so I could take two views on it. Mind's always been. I don't wait for the jaw dropping from deck. He's a grown grown up. He keeps me in games. He doesn't make the dumb young quarterback. Throw I see all around this league and last night. I'm like that that that that kind of is doc when he faces a great the defensive I know you first of all we're getting a little too on on the defense with New Orleans. They've done a lot of good things that they were twenty. Six points allowed loud going into the game. The frustrating thing for me would Dak is when they takeaway Zeke which everybody's game planning takeaways and with the great quarterbacks you you game plan to take away the great quarterbacks but that's not what happens when people play Dallas they take away the running back then once that's taken away you should be able to do something to make the defense pay for that for make them pay for the decision to load up the box and Dallas couldn't do that and I was a little frustrated from a play calling perspective and look. There's a young offense coordinator there but they're getting hemmed up outside and Manon Coverage. They can't get open well then bunch it up help. Bring the receivers and tight run. Pick plays run run to do something to help create some space for those wide receivers when you can't get them open so there are a lot of elements that I think Dallas can take a step back and look at it and say okay. We need to improve this. I liked act from a character perspective. He is an adult he he takes care of the ball. He managed the game well but are you going to make him. The highest paid quarterback in League for those traits. You'd like to think think elite franchise quarterback is someone that can win the game for you not just managed the game for you. Let me ask you about a joy brought this up. AH listen less need the general manager of the Rams Paid Todd Gurley autonomy paid him a year early he also paid brandin cooks more than I would be comfortable paying Liam now they had to get rid of two offense Lineman Gafa now the protection and Eric. They don't have a running game. I mean they. They asked him to throw the Baltimore Seventy Times. I I think this rams team is in a little bit of trouble here. Wait the effect of of losing those two offensive linemen is significant and the other thing that the rams have had over the last couple of years is great health over in general had incredible health from it from an offensive standpoint and now when you get to you you've got to change the continuity on the offensive line. You're not quite as healthy as you have. been people have seen your system for a couple years and worked really hard to to to close that gap Y- you need to start bringing some other ideas and as much as you want to stay with what has worked. One of the things we learned in New England is not only. Do you have to do what you did the previous year as good. You've got to do it better and you've got to stay ahead of the posse because it's a really smart league. That's also a copycat league. So if you have a weakness you are going to get attacked with that weakness every single week until you prove you you can overcome it and it's a it's a hard lesson to learn and your points very too. When you start paying the top end of the roster you you gotTa let other guys go to? There's there's a very small middle class in the NFL. It's the it's the haves and the have nots and your have nots have better be pretty pretty productive yeah. It's when they built a new stadium they wanted to get. PSL's they started signing stars too big deals and Aaron Donald and Todd Gurley Brandin cooks and it was it was it was in a very crowded distracted sports market. La It was kind of like ooh this team's fun but man when you pay. I like Brandin cooks. I I don't love him. That's a big contract. Now I can't with with a let's be honest. Jared Goff's a guy that needs as a pocket. We're not talking about Shawn Watson here. We're talking talking about you know a guy that need to save pocket sometime in a running game and their running game is dead. Finally I'm not sure if you can bend twenty eight million dollar quarterback but I'm watching Minnesota yesterday and I'm looking at those receivers and that running back they can't move the ball. I mean could you what here's my question you coach the Vikings. You lose that locker room. It's you talk about a frustrating situation and look. There's not a lot of times say. You've got to give Washington credit but you've got to give Washington credit for for letting him walk they. They didn't feel like he was the answer. They didn't feel like he was worth it the contract that he had and then he goes on the free agent tour tour and there's a film the whole adventure all that stuff that lead into it and to whom much is given much expected and to have to manage Asia guy that you've invested so much in and to your same point with the rams. You've had to let other guys go because of guaranteed money that you gave this quarterback. We're back the fact that he's playing the way he is and that it looks like their receivers are outstanding. They have a very good defense MINNESOTA MINNESOTA. They brought him in to be the difference maker because they had all those other pieces. They felt like they didn't have that dynamic player. At quarterback they could change changed the equation and they've had to regress. They've had to constrict what they do offense instead of getting what they actually they hope they paid for which is someone that would make them explosive. That's there's a lot of talent on that team. We're more explosive with case keenum. There's no question I felt they were more big play with case keenum and in that locker room when you're protecting someone. That's making that much money. Could you lose the locker room. There's GonNa be a tremendous level of frustration and guys said didn't get paid or feel underpaid or undervalued. There's resentment ed grows and at some point you've got to have the the lack lack of ego or or what how we want to phrase it to say okay. Maybe we made a mistake and instead of doubling down over and over on our mistake. Let's is try something different and you hate to have to do that because it. There's really no going back if you pull them but at some point collectively you gotta say this isn't working. We've gotta try something else before. The season gets out of hand. Yeah I mean I I sat there yesterday. At the end of the game and you could watch the body language of the Viking offensive players in fact Phelan came came out after the game basically said sorry you can't ask for one hundred and eighty yards rushing every week and win football games Eric Mangini. 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Listen to good calls on apple podcasts on the iheartradio APP. Wherever you listen to pod God all right? We do it every Monday listen. I you know we every Monday right wrong. I with a lot I write a lot got to hold accountable for both here. We go where Colin was right the hottest. I've ever been Goulet. You've been with me for about a decade fourteen five and one hit seventy two percent on my picks by college picks hit this weekend and I've been taken a ton of dogs by the way I've already got my picks for Thursday. Friday already looked him up this morning L. A. Lot of tasty dogs out there I picked the titans in the raiders whitlock in the mornings. At who do you like has tightened raiders. You said those are terrible picks but he did he did tell me Arizona was gonNA lose but I also picked last night right. I went three into this week. I took the saints because you know what I've told you. I think he's good. I think he's fine so winning week. We're hot at won't last probably but it's been fun one. Where Colin was raw? I really laid in Matt Patricia when he got a job at the Detroit Lions head coach. He's a little bit of an unmade bed hat on backwards. It's just like dude. There's a there's not a lot of presence there. You know but I gotTa tell you something. They didn't have their best corner yesterday and I haven't seen Patrick mahomes struggle like that against anybody. I don't Augie struggled all day like that against New England. Patricia is smart it listen they had they had Patrick Mahomes Danforth eight Patrick picked up nine or Detroit wins the game so listen whatever he's doing. We always knew was super smart but I thought you know the president's. He's a little bit unraveled but he's done a great job Bob. I'll tell you this morning. I don't WANNA be Minnesota in that division. I'd love to be Detroit. They've got a really tough schedule and they're playing really good football. Where Colin was right right New England is leading the NFL in six defensive categories now? Some of it is who they're playing but I told her in the off season I said listen. I'm being told by the people inside that building. They think this defense could be really really special and it's got a ton of depth. They're not playing their top draft picks right now defensively. They're barely playing. They are teaching them the system than they unveil them by year two. They do everything well now again. They're I'm not playing great teams but when you literally had eighty five possessions and you've given up a score on like three of them they are on their way and I don't think it's going to end and anytime soon if you look quarterback face in the next month it's people they could dominate so the defense is exactly what we predicted there a running team and a defense it led team not a Tom Brady led team and it's very clear ballot check spin ahead of the curve on that where Colin was raw for years. I said about the Atlanta the Falcons I like their owner. I like the GM like their coach. I like their quarterback. I'm not sure if I like any of them right now outside of the owner Arthur blank Atlanta mess they got rolled at home Tom. I watched them play twice this year. They don't even look like they're prepared. They get down two touchdowns right out of the chute against Minnesota yesterday against Tennessee Atlanta was awful. Dan Quinn's is in trouble they lead the NFL and penalties for years. I thought Atlanta was one of these. Well run teams. You know my rule. If I like your owner you're jammed your coach quarterback. If they're all be plus or above you compete for super bowls. What has happened Matt Ryan? He is just there's no more special left. I thought he upgraded offensive coordinator. They got rolled yesterday at home. They don't even look close to New Orleans. Where Colin was right? We said the saints are going to be fine. The Saints The saints are going to be fine Bernama clemson stuff yet or that's Baker. I said the saints are going to be fine. Twenty starts. He's fourteen in six. New Orleans has weapons to have a good old line. They have an excellent defense offense. I think they're going to go. I think I predicted four and two without drew brees last night was classic. They didn't ask teddy to do a ton of stuff. They got into by the way the the last couple of times the saints and the cowboys have played the Games of look the exact same member member of the game last year so we never listen we never we we never thought that teddy was that big of a drop off from drew brees and I love drew but drew can't throw the ball down the field anymore and that's Teddy's weakness but in terms of mobility Teddy's probably a little more mobile than drew brees. I think they're both smart. They're both coach. I think breezes bore finely tuned situationally unle but the saints are kind of what we thought they would be. I picked him last night to win. I thought they would be fine without breeze and in that division right now where I don't trust Tampa Carolina or Atlanta it looks like it looks like they should be the team to beat where Colin was raw clemson struggle man they are. They are not again. Let me he put the context here. They're undefeated but if you ask me the best teams in the country thought Clemson had a chance to be historic offensively Trevor Lawrence is unbelievable offensive line his NFL guys they may have the second best receiver in the country. They may have the second best running back but they were fighting for their lives against North Carolina this week I mean they were fighting for their lives. Trevor Lawrence has eight touchdowns and five begs right now the best team I've Seen Bama the second best team I've seen maybe Auburn Oklahoma could be third Ohio State Fourth Lsu. I I would not put Clemson based on what I've seen. If I was a voter I'm not but if I was a vote right at Clemson it's six. I just I just offensive line really struggled now. Here's the thing I've seen this with Babbo Sweeney teams where they just looked like you know what they struggle in September and October Dr Deshaun John Watson also had some mild September so I don't want to overreact here where Colin was right one of the things I love about the NFL three words just win Sunday Sunday. It solves all your problems said it last week just go in Sunday. Cleveland goes from Greece fire to first place in their division and as of this morning Baltimore's offense Pittsburgh Cincinnati Cleveland looks like easily the best team in the league just win Sunday by the Way Philadelphia One and two Injuries Carson Wentz Not Popular Beats Green Bay now. We're all like myself included I think Philadelphia's the best team arguably in the NFC baseball in the NBA do not give give you this urgency because you have so few games in the NFL Games mean more and you can really turn the narrative around just by a great performance performance. I mean if you're Cleveland this morning. You got to feel great about it. You have the best defense in the division. The best pass rush and Nick Chubb Allows Baker Mayfield field play like Baker Mayfield should play sprinkled a ball around twenty four throws play with some composure where Colin was raw. I I don't know what the make make on Jameis Winston. I thought he had terrible judgment in college. He's a turnover machine and then he walks into L. A. Yesterday I mean he's just ridiculous. There's just one hundred twenty passer asser rating now. I'll tell you this Mike Evans is about gooders receiver as the NFL's had but I mean I there's just some things in this league. I can get my arms around. I Dunno not make a Janus. I mean I've always said it big tall and strong. I mean you'll watch him. Play Games Annella four turnovers and then I'll have throws and you're like oh Lord. He's a very he's a beautiful throw the football now he got Bruce Arians and Bruce's really smart so maybe it the whole time for him. It's just he didn't have the right coach but they're too into this morning and and they're going to New Orleans this weekend. I wouldn't count him out. That is a big strike offense. James Look Fantastic where Colin was is right. Kirk cousins stinks. I don't get it. I mean he's my size. He's not athletic. You can't throw the ball down the field. I don't get it I just I don't get it I I didn't you know I mean I guess maybe he was a slight upgrade over case keenum but twenty eight million dollars I I just don't see it and it's funny because Minnesota has great fans and every time I criticize him you know after they win. I'll be like so remember the first game of the year he had ten attempts and I'm like and they want and unlike that's pathetic like Minnesota's coaches are telling you we just don't you've been trusted him and they want in Minnesota fans. Like what are you saying. I'm like ten attemps. Coaches are telling you we don't want the ball in his hands. Even Adam feeling called him out yesterday. After the game at some point you're not going to run the ball one hundred eighty yards even with the best running back in the NFL and that's when you have to be able to throw the ball you have to be able to make plays have to be able to hit the ball the deep balls you have to do that because otherwise it's too easy for teams T- up and Marshall quarterback thank you by the way the bears backup quarterback. The bears backup quarterback was better than kirk cousins Jase Daniels wasn't he. I mean he looks like to me. Better trubisky was better chase. Daniels was better kirk was at their best quarterback on the field. Yesterday where Colin was right the four biggest baseball contracts Wa wa Wa none made the playoffs they finished a hundred and twenty the two games back combined in fact the nats were eleven games better when Bryce Harper left the phillies finished at five hundred. These contracts are predictably awful. No baseball position players going to be worth thirty million dollars. I guess you could make it work financially upstairs but I mean it makes teams lopsided unless you're the Yankees have payroll that just lasts forever. It's a rainbow that never ends you know manny. Machado thirty million bucks so year in San Diego well but they got a great farm system. What does it matter Mike Trout? Manny Machado Nolan the kid and Bernado in Colorado and Bryce Harper none of these work and I'm not I'm not sure because you have to spend so much time with guys in baseball on the road. I'm not sure sure it's good to have a guy making thirty five large in the locker room into it seriously if that guys not picking up every beer and stake could be animosity. I think they're terrible. I don't like long contracts. Could you show me one that worked. Could you show me one Giancarlo Stanton Miami. They had to get out of town casino in Seattle Joe Mauer Joey votto. Could you show me one. That's ever worked. I mean you we don't WanNa pay running backs in the NFL but I can show you that. Zeke helps the team win. Show me one in baseball contract for ten years that you're like this was worth every dollar we got our money's worth over four again this year be sure to catch live editions of the heard Heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio One and the IHEARTRADIO APP by the way another point on ob Jay and the these are just this is a data point. That's interesting is that not all players most of you play fantasy football and so you win money when a player is super productive so that's how you see it you love when players are productive but very rarely outside of quarterback does productive receiver favor equal win and I'll give example Oh. BJ'S FIF- fifteen biggest games as a pro the giants and Cleveland or five and ten his fifteen worst I they're nine and six so he has to be icing. He cannot be cake. You can have him make plays but US oh. BJ As a decoy he's a great decoy. Put Him in motion move safeties across move corners across but but if you're sitting there trying to bill you cannot build a cake around the icing you you just put it on top of thin layer. It makes the cake better twice about receivers. I mean it could even Christian McCaffrey is much of Christian McCaffrey. He's had huge games for Carolina and they lose badly so the outside of quarterback Arron Rogers throws generally has games Thursday he wins. 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NFL Combine Canceled, Divisional-Round Impressions, and the Coaching Carousel

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NFL Combine Canceled, Divisional-Round Impressions, and the Coaching Carousel

"Hey what's up. Gang goal ride alongside ryan shazier and special guests calin jones and today. We're going to react to the combine essentially being cancelled our thoughts on the divisional rounds are championship. Picks and some thoughts on the remaining head. Coaching openings. All that and more. That's coming your way next right here on the tuesday edition of the wringer. Nfl show surprisingly great rate state. Farm is the real deal in car. And home insurance agents ready to help with personalized servicing customize. Your insurance all. This is backed up by a ward winning easy to use technology. You can manage your coverage. Pay your bill and file a claim with state farm mobile app. It's a great price and even greater service. So when you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm. Is there one of a kind. So you're taxes that's why turbo tax life has experienced tax experts. Who are ready to listen to you. 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It's a three man we've today and before we get dug in our heels onto this program will be sure to listen on spotify and check out all the other ringer. Nfl show podcast not once not twice but five times a week and this week. We have a big announcement. That's because this weekend immediately. Following the final game on sunday while the bringer. Nfl show we'll be going live and direct so make. Sure subscribe to the ringer's youtube channel. That's youtube dot com slash the ringer and following the ringer on twitter at the ringer. Nfl now sunday. it's going to be kevin prince and then wednesday. It's going to be warned. Sharpen chris vernon given their review of the weekend. Getting your all set and ready for the super bowl and fell as well. We'll get into what went down this weekend. Divisional round there were a bunch of great games and a big. But before we get into that you know when you think about what. Everyone's playing for your plan for vince. Lombardi trophy the teams. That aren't playing for a lombardi trophy. They're playing for the draft. And usually you know when you think about the draft. Picks and accumulating picks in trying to make yourself a better team. You do a lot of that and it all starts in indianapolis at the combine and ryan the news. It just came down. Essentially that there's gonna be no combine this year of course due to covid nineteen restrictions. And you and i were talking about and calin and our producer june. We you talked about the fact that that was a time for you to really make a name for yourself in indy. On the turf got after yemen to me is is very upsetting especially for the players. Some guys you know you go back to a hey. Would you ever do to combine again. I would definitely say no. i would not want to. but that's only once in a lifetime. Experience also knits. You be on a platform with all of the best guys that know people think of you know when when people think of the best guys the best two hundred guys the best combination to drive. You know that's why they go to combine it. Allow you to perform against all these other guys. You know so i was. I was already kind. A you know first second row type of guy a new of on these go second but then i had a really really productive combine really prudent pro day in those two things allowed me to become the first inside linebacker taking you know because he just really separated speed and explosive nece show teams. Would i really. Do you know so the fact that other guys are going to be able to do that issue. Obviously you're going to have your pro day but it's not the same thing because he's already environment to be an environment. That should not really comfortable way. It really shows teams. Are you flexible. Are you willing to adapt. A what kind of person are you under a lot of pressure in. I feel like a lot of these guys is going to be kind of upsetting because they can't really perform that would Previous times but for guys actually might be comfortable because now you just doing everything back at your school. Like you've always been doing ceylan seems to be a sign of the times. no combine. who knows the next time. Everyone's going to reconvene in converge on indianapolis. But you know with that. Said it's going to be a little bit different like when you look at some of the other games that lead up to either on your senior bowls and you know those. Those games were able to showcase their skills. Those are going to be waited just that much more. Yeah no it definitely puts a lot more emphasis on those all star type showcase games for these incoming prospects you know and i think it puts a lot more weight like i mentioned you know so much is now going to go into those pro days and you know and i think the other part of it to the element of losing the in person i think you know ability for these teams that go down and meet with la these athletes i think so much in the draft and so much for an nfl career comes down the fit. You know where you land. It's it's part of the luck. It's you know you fall into the right system. You get taken by the right team. Leads getting an opportunity whether you get the starter. Whether you're sitting behind a a player that may be able to help develop and whatnot but you know the back teams won't be able to get a read on these guys whether it's understand whether they fit their culture whether or not they're driven what they're like you know in terms of looking at the chalkboard and all that so i i think it's it's a major major missed opportunity. You know not having the combine and then again like you said it just puts a lot more weight on the process leading up to the combine as opposed. You know years. Pass ryan your pro day. You said that's when you really separate it yourself. You told us earlier but let everybody at home. No would you run. Would you run that forty and again all through thirty seven in iran. a four hundred forty. I i like the fact that you throughout that you to thirty seven just this land is putting everybody know. Put never know okay. I was to thirty-seven have always doing what i'm doing now. I'll probably be to twelve me and my wife got me over fast. And i got damn damn hoberman kito too. Aren't you like tito slash paleo slash intimated fast in but down. I'm trying to be healthy right now. So did down the team Do do where do cheeseburgers fit in that. Mix because that's what. I'm trying to jump in on the weekends for me. So i can have that right now. Look at that like a steel trap. Our guy writes as just like that. You know what let let move from no combine which is obviously bad news to some good news guys because That division around. I mean it was as good a football as you want to see and there is now four team standing. It's obviously green bay. Kansas city buffalo and tampa bay and went when it comes to players who went out there and impressed that there were. There were more than a few but ryan. I know there had to be one dude that really stood out to you. You know this is somebody that most people are not gonna pay. I'm gonna i'm gonna. i'm gonna go with hitting. He actually did a job as possible. He did a good job coming in just trying to hold a floodgates back we know especially with homes be injured with most does gives you juice as the other team. Obviously you don't want anybody gaining in games but when you see that the star player at face it. Nfl is out. That just gives you hope you know so you seeing that there were certain back the browser surging bad and they got the ball back. You just never know how it was going to end. And just to see how jay and he had a lawn third ryan that almost got it first down and then just a decompose in fourth one whenever when when tony romo and everybody else in the world if they really stop that ball and he started ball got the ball hill. An allowed him to go to the the afc championship. I thought he played really well he. He did his role. He came up as a backup quarterback. He didn't turn the ball over really Play world. this helped him win the game. You know so. I think i think i thought i don did a great job in the game. So check an assumption. I'm sorry about that. But there it is down to say mark this moment. A buckeye just heaping praise on a wolverine but then at the last second he came like salt bay with with a little dash. Hey just like that. He's i build you up just like a break. You down chad henny. I liked that but now he was impressive as president as it gets caylao about you man who was out there really ball. As far as you're concerned definitely agree with ryan. Like the chad handed definitely stood out. That was impressive to be different here. I guess i'd say aaron rodgers because not that we didn't expect aaron rodgers the play at a very high level but for him the rip apart. The rams defense away that he did with the ease the packers offense looked against them last weekend like i. I was not too surprised but still just kind of appreciate it every time you watch in raja's do something incredible and for the way that he did it with you. Know the ams and have an amazing game how assault game but the way that they able to function without relying on him too much very very impressive going into next week. Yeah aaron rodgers. In the postseason. Prior to sunday i mean he he was in two versus the number one pass defense in the league. The rams have the number one pass defense in the league and of course he changed all those numbers but like the davante adams i mean. He was just as impressive as aaron rodgers. I mean that just the fact that you know his numbers might not have been like. Oh look at these. I mean this guy. Put the team on his back but the fact that he was calling jalen ramsey out saying hey at least from all accounts said that he was like okay. You and i. Let's go one-on-one let's give the people what they want and we saw it on that one play. I don't know if that was a little bit. Busted coverage ryan in the end zone touchdown for adams but he either way i mean to go up with jalen ramsey. That's that's no easy task. They may jalen ramsey. Run a hundred yards before he caught a one yard catch now. That's a bushy run. Right is no way. There's no way. Jimmy can stop that he he he ran away from west field tribeca position on i decided they spring back over like somebody else has to be positioned to try to stop that because he he didn't have any leverage to stop that playing but adams day when he didn't have one hundred yards but he got not heaping ten passes way he caught. Not you know. So i i feel like he went to battle. Obviously that's the most Jalen ramsey led up in this whole. He's the most before this forty seven hours in that week one so he wanna battle but they really put him in position to win the battle. But yeah i can't. I can't get davante adams out one. You may him read one hundred fifty out before you call one yard pass whatever whatever works how however you could shake off her tail. I mean if if that's all you gotta get it done. That's how you got to get it done and green bay. Obviously move with a convincing win. But you guys. I don't know about you but you know one cat. That impressed me had to be white. Mean white everything. That was going his way he was on it. I mean a fumble. Recovery eleven tackles. Ten solo tackles him. You know why. The man had one hundred and forty tackles during the regular season. If i'm not mistaken ryan. This dude was a bull in a china shop from start to finish no doubt about it. He had amazing game. You know there's one guy that how i was thinking about saying also but you know our your back pocket. So i didn't want to say he. He he played. He played his tail off minute. You why he wanted to top lawmakers come on his bush man. I feel like you could go wrong with either one of them but he got to show his show who he was in a big stage. People love when it's only you on. Tv you can show the world. What kind of player you are. That's that's when von miller show. That's what aaron donald show up. And now he's short sean. Everybody hey. I got snow for the pro bowl. I'll give a damn about the pro bowl. We better go to super bowl. Obviously i don't think they're going to out they're going to be green bay but that's the mosit- he has right now and play like man you got. He had a fumble recovery that he had eleven tackles a pig tackle for loss manages. You could ask for a better game at as a player noted that he could've did better with score a touchdown. Hey he did what he had for his dudes out there ball and clearly you know one thing may be evident that the shoulder pads at lsu the most comfortable shoulder pads in all the nation because we see devon white still rocking his purple and gold. We saw leonard fournette with his lsu shoulder pads in like. I don't know if they're going to win. Win the super bowl kaelin but the way the tampa. Bay buccaneers are playing. I wouldn't say one hundred percent. Okay i wouldn't say you know here's my money. Go ahead and take it green bay. They're going to win this game one hundred percent. Because it's tom brady. It's leonard fournette. It's it's all those guys right. Now it's a b- it's mike evans. It's it's everybody that they have that makes you say you can't really doubt tom brady in the postseason right now. No and you mentioned that whole supporting cast is. Why tom brady went to tampa bay. You know like this team. That is literally star talent on both sides of the ball. And what's really interesting is against the saints. We saw was the defense that really elevated the team you know. Help them win that game. I think tom brady. How's a decent game. at times. He looked very very old. But again like you mentioned that you know the supporting cast even the lesser stars. I guess you'd say or the unknown guys. Like scotty miller making a big catch tyler johnson. Making a big catch. And then you know you you guys just mentioned the defense the way that the white bald out We saw we heard. Sean murphy. Buntings zine twenty million times because depending every single pass thrown his way antoine winfield junior making a play like it really came down to that defense playing at a high level. now they're potentially vita Back this week in the middle of the defensive line which will be massive. You know again going up against aaron rodgers and by the way you know i. I know that everyone is expecting green bay. It's concerning the form that in to blow them out but tampa bay won six games in a row and earlier this year. They've blue green bay out thirty eight to ten granted it was in tampa bay and this is going to be potentially in very very cold weather. Tom brady's played in cold weather. Officer potential jobless thinking likes blizzard. Whether i must say like boy it's going to be cool is going to be called. Ain't gonna be like some the potential snow. You don't gold okay so to five sunday. That one's going down in green bay ryan. You think there's gonna be any a any any tough guys two zero five central time. I'm i'm in chicago right now. I know where you're anti central on this any any tough guys going shirtless pre-game. I don't think you can tell guys go. Certainly american has america uses easter center. Tie or time the other times in the middle. We don't really use those so all right. Stay stunned i think it'd be a great game sprint. Right now is three and a half. I definitely think bay's covers that. But to me i just i. I don't really see causing davis. Or how you to the quarterback. May sean murphy bunting chaumet three the. Yeah he's gonna be yeah. He won't be bunting bunting because he's trying to cover davante adams because i don't i don't think they can cover him. Don't you know. I think the is in their offense is just one. A daily is operatives that we've seen in a while. I don't think they're the chiefs offense but obviously this year. They're showing that at a best offense in the league and tampa bay has a great defense bats. Don't think those quarterbacks can handle the pressure that is put on if they're just going to be a totally different game like you said tampa bay has won the last with six games. You said Last seven or eight games have all been in warm weather cities so it was kinda chilly but it wasn't too bad but the last eight games you know. Tom brady has been playing a warm weather cities you know. Or he's been in a dome you know so. He is fit for if for all got to play football. And i'm not saying that you know that's what they're winning but it's totally different going from tampa bay or a dome to plant in nineteen twenty degree weather especially if you haven't been playing last few weeks you know so upping is gonna be a tough adjustment for temple going to green bay. It's a hostile environment. But i think it'll gonna be the game. But i definitely think temporary covers spread but ryan do think that that tampa has the the better shot between obviously tampa one but did they have a way better shot than new orleans. Only because of the fact. Tom brady even though he hasn't played in the cold weather. In in a few weeks i mean. He played in cold weather for nineteen years in new england. I mean if anyone knows how to get it done. It's tom brown. I'm gonna make you heap. Praise on a michigan wolverine. Once again. that's going to be twice understand. Understand that understand that he played in the for nineteen years. But i've whatever go float albie florida for two weeks. The moment i get back to pittsburgh on my man. Fuck this this is. I'm not trying to be here right now. it's too damn cold. You know so not that. So i'm beyond is i i. I know what you're saying but that would agree. Hit you and you're flying from eighty degrees. It's a big difference. it's a. It's a huge difference s. That's the sixty degrees sixty degree weather. Change no so You know i. I think they'll be prepared for. But i still feel like green. Bay's the better team in the situation. You know so Win absolutely that cold. It's it's a shock to the system but kayla if there's any team we say if there's any squad who can give aaron rodgers green bay run for their money. It's got to be tom brady. And he's still on the hunt for that seven super bowl. Championship man. Yeah absolutely and i think again like we just mentioned that you look at the talent. That's on that roster. I think tampa bay's built the potentially compete with green bay. Especially when you look at their front seven. I think that they'll be able to generate. More consistent. pressured. Been los angeles was able to last week and then moving forward to. I think you know obviously tom. Brady's x factor for their offense. But i think tampa bay's run run game if they're off. The line is helping provided you know ronald jones or running. Well there is really solid. Top ten in terms of run blocking grade corden pro football focus like they've looked really solid over the past few weeks. They will basically get what they wanted. A lot of times against new orleans. Last week i think in green bay's rush defense hasn't always been that great even last week against cam akers and the rams offense it wasn't consistent throughout the entire game and it was really big part of why l. a. Was able to hang around for as long as they did. So i think you know. Tampa bay's defense maybe one or two stops. They're able establish to run. And then you know rely on brady when you need to know a again i think it comes down to the supporting cast really helping elevate brady and taken to the next level you know. In order to keep up with the packers like ryan said. I think that they deserve to be favored. This yeah ryan. If anyone knows man it's it's you defensive. Players when when when they hear their name and the word disruptive attached i mean it always brings a smile to their face. And when when you look at how disruptive devon white was that just allow guys like don consumer up front to be just that much more disruptive. And i feel like he's going to be an x factor to tampa bay defence. Moving forward him. If there's anyone who's gonna help get aaron rodgers off markets. It's going to be a veteran. Like you know. I totally agree. But the fact that aaron rodgers can move better than brees and the fed. He throw it. Better jew breezy right now. I feel like that's going to be the difference maker this day. There's a lot of those you seeing that ju- breezes either cautious to make. He wasn't making he didn't throw one. He didn't pass over twenty yards the whole game or something like that if he did if he did. It wasn't more than two or three in the past did throw deep. It was too. It was from james. No so i feel air. Rods could make autos boroughs in air. Jones he's not better than kamera when it goes back through. But i feel like when it comes to jay's moving around pocket it just getting his guys position after like aaron rodgers will do a better job of that right now. The drew brees does and he has way more zip on his ball but i could see deva white causing a problem. I could definitely see. But i don't see air raja's having a type of game. Jubilees has hello twenty. Twenty one mercedes-benz certified preowned presents a new way to accelerate into the new year. Select a few favorite songs. 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You have to be to be a professional. Athlete is probably the psychology behind. That's pretty crazy. But like i'm not surprised that you know. He went out crashing and burning but all remember him for what he goes through his regular season career because what he was able to do in terms of lasting this long extending. His career is very impressive. Ryan what do you say is drew brees. Does he does. Is there any convincing. That man you know. He's thrown for over five thousand yards five times. No one else has even done more than once. Is there any convincing. Drew brees to maybe get on some kind of rehab. Get that arm just a little bit stronger and give it just one more run. Just one more with alvin. Kamara michael thomas gang on. I don't really see him being able to do that. And the reason. I ask because once you're in your forties minutes is hard to detroit armstrong and to be able to throw the ball downfield like the way you want to. Also debris has just look into the future. You see all right. Look out looking at t now. Is our team a team. That's going to be able to win the super bowl and if he's not gonna win a super bowl there there's no point back no and i i don't see it. I see you say himself leading team to moreno so you know He got beat up a bit this year. his family is probably saying. Hey you want the greatest of all time. I hall of famer in a just might be tom time for. Just come on home all right. Well either way just to double back to tampa bay in green bay. I wanna smack myself for going against tom brady but i got the packers winning thirty two to twenty four. That's where we're going to sit with that one right there but let. Let's move along That nightcap because buffalo in kansas city. Not right i don't know about you but i wish they could almost have flip these games and had buffalo kansas city be. It'd be the early game. And then have the delay gabi aaron rodgers versus tom brady for all the marbles trying to go to another super bowl. But that's here nor there. I'm not part of the scheduling department. Nobody asked me about any of that but buffalo kansas city. I mean buffalo. Their offense said they're they're starting to fire away. Kansas city like we talked about earlier here all year. Long there that squad that they'll let you hang around you can hang around but when all the dust is settled. I'll look up. And you lost sitting. When i look out for tom. Brady 'cause you know. I think the sun's gonna be out at three thousand six. It gets a lot colder. Wow department looking out for old town. A god i'll messing around the reason that they chose. This game is because there's one verse to i think this is be really a shootout. I'm gonna be honest if pageant home doesn't play this game. The teachers are gonna lose. All the bills are really good. Team solid team. But i'll china hitting lies game but he's not going to do it to win this game. You know so the bills defense they don't have to do. They held the raiders to three points. Seventeen three i really. I really felt achieves. Their their their defense is good enough to just hold the bill out and tom always plays. Well there's nothing that is good enough to hold a chiefs. Bill is out if they have cheney quarterback if they have mahomes they are now. I think we have a shootout Bunch of back and forth at the. That's why they wanted this game because the over under is fifty three. So i i think spending this gonna be a high scoring game you know a. I'm excited to see what what is to came about you. Man what do you think. Kansas city Can they get it done. If it's chad honey. I mean everyone right now is is fingers crossed toes. Cross everything hoping that. Patrick mahomes is the guy on sunday. I don't know if they'll be able to get done without patrick mahomes but i mean the thing. Is you know the bills. It look all that great last week and again you could probably be attributed the weather because the ravens offense. Look good at all but you know. I was expecting josh allen. Have a better game than he did. He only went twenty three or thirty seven which you know solid for him which sixty percent completion rate. That's great for him but at the same time you know if the offense isn't humming which again they have the potential there probably the only team in the afc if not the entire nfl that can compete offensive. We weapon for weapon with kansas. City's offense so if they're often it gives me pause and maybe some reason for concern when these teams met earlier in the year again really weird rainy game. I think it was during the middle of the week to one of those kobe. One thousand nine impacted games. It was twenty six seventeen and you know the opposite. Look all that great. Kansas city was able to run the football really efficiently in that one and they won't have quite do layer. If patrick holmes isn't one hundred percent i it gives them cause for concern there too. But you know again andy. Reid and air fiemme like the way that they're calling plays a familiarity that have the trust that have those players you know. I think that they'll be able to get it done. Should mahomes mutt with that said Andy reid and airbnb. they're calling plays offensively. That are making the opposition's head spin but when it comes to defense ryan. I mean we got a tip. Our cap to leslie frazier. I mean the way leslie frazier had that buffalo defense plane. I mean to hold the hold the ravens and lamar jackson. And i know he went out of that game but you know just to be able to stifle them and hold them to three points. I mean this is a team that what do they do. They run the ball. And leslie frazier heat zoned in on that and said you know what that's not going down not on my watch. Yeah i thought Great job you know calling a great defensive scheme versus lamar jackson they kinda did with most people make lamar do not. Most people were successful teams. That have been able to beat. The river's been doing then. Made lamar beat up in the air and it kind of take away his legs. Obviously tomorrow that got away a few times but at imitate it was too windy first of all it there secondly the mar is not the most accurate thrower so if you make a hill beat you with his arm and the weather's not on his side man. Does this like a dream. Come true for defense coordinator. So he did it. He did a great job holding them to three points in. I heard shanties liborius. Like not. And i truly believe it. You know because he does autograph. Things do our regular season. He could run the ball really well. You know but when the playoffs come man you got to throw the ball to win you know. You can't just run the ball up and down the field and expect to win these football games. I these teams that have dominated offices in you know they have a solid defense so now all we have to do is focus on how to take away for this game. We we see you earlier. We know what you do it all season. We just don't bring on fm together it a tight down. What makes you an effective. And i think that's related frazier. Dead in new. buffalo bills. Did a great job of okay so we'll have to do two different picks when it comes to this game one pick with patrick mahomes one pick without patrick mahomes and i'm gonna go with patrick mahomes. Kansas city twenty eight to twenty ryan. Where are you going. I'm going with patrick mahomes. I'm ago kennison thirty four to thirty one. Okay kayla with. Patrick mahomes the chiefs thirty five thirty okay without patrick. Mahomes without bathrooms ongoing bills twenty four achieve sacks fourteen. Okay without patrick mahomes. I'm gonna go chiefs. Twenty four bills twenty three Without sach mahomes spills thirty eight chiefs twenty four. All right all right. That's what we're having right there We will see. No disrespect to chad henny. But hopefully we'll see. Patrick mahomes out there just because obviously you want to see the best product on the field at all times and there's no denying patrick mahomes is the best player in all the national football league right about now and we were talking about leslie frazier former head coach of the minnesota vikings defensive coordinator for the buffalo and that got us to thinking about some of those head. Coaching positions that have been filled. Some that are yet to find someone put in place. There's there's philadelphia and of course houston still vacant. But you know the jets and the lions and the jags in the falcons and the chargers right now. They're all occupied and some some of those jobs we we saw coming in others. We didn't ryan. I know the chargers gig brandon staley. I didn't see that at all. Everyone assumed at myself included that it was going to be brian day ball from from the buffalo bills offense coordinator because he and tom to lesko lo and behold they went to high school together. I mean if there's anything that made sense okay. Lesko was a senior day assault. More they play in the same squad together their boys. If if anything happens down the road i get this job. Don't worry man i gotcha. You'll be a head coach one day and that's not what happened brandon's daily. He's now the frontman for the chargers. This a lot of guys. I am not cool. It so right now but i'll be honest. You know dan campbell Brennan daily. I see those coming. I'm going to be honest. Icy coach mark. Either i felt like somebody seems as coaches the lions. You know i'm a. I'm just going to see how that goes. you know. Go with a tight end coach. You know obviously might have been. He did a great job when he was in miami a few years ago. A lot of years ago but but still here within the more the whole. Nfl i think that the ownership in a gm that's how we start. We have a young quarterback. At least if we're playing defense will get another. We can get a young quarterback coaching here to help him out and develop him. But we just got to focus on defense right now is hasn't been playing well and i think that's i think that's the whole mindset. We'll have been come in. And i think that's a that's a smart marseille. We're whenever you have a good defense. You're always in the mix. It doesn't matter what's going on you always in the mix nothing. That's why the charges decide to go with him. I think that's a good fit coach. Buyer kind of threw me in the loop. I really think you're gonna do a great job man. He's he has a great mom when it comes to offense. He's he's a very intense guy so he's gonna try to get the most out of all his players and if you don't wanna be there you go make sure you're not there. So he can rebuild a program he understands how to obviously recruit as will. But i think they're going to really have a lot of pieces around him. And i think they have some good cap. Space ashley bringing some free agents. Obviously most guys like on the jacksonville but that they can bring you some good for pieces in if he gets. Trevor lawrence adjusted field. I think the. I think that could really help him Jump start until what type of team he wants to be. So i'm really excited about that. One robert I think he's great big. He's a great coach of to me. Just the jets. That's almost seems like a waste of talent robert solid and what he brings the table defensively to to go there and have to start from scratch. It seemed like every year the jets from scratch. But i think he i think he chose the job or the simply because hey we can start from scratch. We'll give you we give you the the template will let you do what you wanna do. Let you mixed up how you want to mix it up man. We'll gonna give you a few years. I think that's cool. He'll get a new quarterback. Come in most likely you know how to how you wanted to be reading and has somebody tries to add coordinator. I think he's a great coach up. He's gonna turn up the franchise route. I said gonna win any super bowl thing about. They could turn them into some type of considers are just be a hassle fighting chance in the afc east autism. Who's a great coach. He did a good job at tennessee. And i think that he could do a great job in if we have to see they're going to keep matt ryan. They're not gonna keep matt ryan you know after he can do a lot of good things with all. Offense has a lot of pieces on offense. They're going to get a new coat of new quarterback than i would rather see how he worked with there. But i i think. I think all these all these jobs i think they. I think everybody had did a good job of hired a new coach. Mom inside to see how these next to us in texas do but the one question i have is dan campbell because i really you know. See how he does as tight in coach. It ain't going to a head coach. I he could be successful. But i just a little bit kind of a big jump. Tight ends coach head. Coach shows the difference in responsibility. It's night day kalem when it when it comes to the five jobs right now. That seem to be spoken for you. Which one do you think is the best hire at least from a front office perspective man okay. So long term. I think robber saw. I think that you know again. Like i was making this joke the other day like it. I'm twenty four. So i can't pinpoint a time in my life. Where the jets have been really laughing stock. I mean especially when we're talking about like meyer whether he was going to go to the jets are the jags slightly. The jag just went one fifteen and no one really cared but the jets you know. They almost won three games and we were cracking jokes on them every single week. So it's a laughingstock there. But i think robert sauza chance to turn everything around. I mean long term. And really when you look the foundation in place further defense already. I think when willing to someone that he's going to be able to build around they have some other piece. I know they're losing. Markets made a free agency potentially but I think know as far as cultural fit. I think robert saw has a chance in the long term to be good higher. And then i think short term know threw me off but brand sealy. I really like him. I really think you know watching a few of his interviews again. I've never met the dude but you know definitely comes off as someone who understands how the one build the culture to communicate and three you know. Put his star players in the best position to succeed. And you look at that charges defense. They got joey bosa on the front line. We'll see if they keep. Melvin ingram how he fits within that system but then you have derwin james and secondary. There's some pieces from the build around. They thought it was odd that they didn't hire again. Brian daboll because you know the fit would be quarterback giving him a coach that you understand so develop those guys. But i think that's going to be a really interesting heart. I don't think that they'll top the chiefs but they have talent and they should be end up being a playoff contender immediately in the afc. Next year and ryan like we were saying before the show we. We thought that it was going to be brian. Day ball going to the los angeles chargers head coach because he in thom tillis goes relationship. Then it's brandon staley. I think it's probably because the chargers they like to pinch pennies and they said you know what we don't wanna pay for. Brian daboll to move all the way across the country. Brennan staley's already here. He he's probably gonna move up the street. We don't have to pay any of those relocation fees and not have to get any of that no temporary housing so let let. Let's just go with that right now. And that's where they're at but when it comes to the philadelphia job and the houston gig. You see that philadelphia's interview in arab enemy via zoom and houston. You know the league allowed them to speak to err be enemy. I mean i. I feel like especially with the quarterbacks. With whether it be jalen hurts or does shawn watson if shawn watson stays in houston and they're able to snag arab the enemy that could be a match made in heaven but if if he goes to philadelphia. I mean who knows because jalen hurts. We've seen his potential. I think right now. We just need a head guy say we like part of philadelphia's organization but i think what he needs and what that organization needs is someone to be able to corral that town. I feel that iran. In in i had choose which team i will go to our probably go to the eagles and the reason i say this is because i felt like they have draft picks. It may still have young receivers. They have y'all receivers and they have a a solid defense. You know if you just bring eleven coach in there. I feel pieces around coach but the thing is about the thing is about the eagles they have a very old team so when it comes to the old line and and things like that in the line but i think if you're trying to win now i feel. The eagles is a good squad him because they still have a pretty solid team. If you wanna go to a team with a franchise quarterback then. Obviously you're gonna go to the texans. But i think the eagles is a good fit because he can still build around. He has a lot of young pieces around him. I feel the texas dislike going there. You the the best thing you have is the child washing. But then you'd have nothing else like you really don't have anything else. you have like a few pieces defenses. Okay jaded your offense is okay. But you don't have any topics not any good ones. You know so. Obviously you find a lot of great talent in the draft like tonio browns and tonio gays. And you know all of these guys but in our cameras but they you don't you don't know that when you draft him you say like some so and just feel the best fit for him right now trying to win now and probably go on in the future. Probably the eagles. But if you want to like a superstar bona fide quarterback in texas so an kaylin. You know one thing that is is somewhat refreshing to see is the fact that the these guys that are getting these jobs. They're not retreads. The it's it's all a fresh. Look these guys. All in their in their first head coaching gigs in the national football league. I obviously urban meyer. He's got a little bit of a resume but he he's never been in the league with that being said you know we josh mcdaniels. He's he's taken interviews right now and a for me. That's surprising because i thought after everything that happened with the colts that you know he was pretty much going to be the the. Oc or whatever capacity. He was going to be in new england in new england for the rest of his career. But you know he's back out there. Making the rounds. No you make a good point like it is interesting now especially for those two openings right now with houston and philadelphia. It's not too surprising though that these two jobs which honestly they're probably considered at least from what from what we've heard from reported from. Adam schefter that the accused job is not wanting just because of the organizational dysfunction. That's happening over there but you know it's not surprising that you know you have your kind of picking retreat at this point Leslie frazier someone that you know could could be a really good coach. I think todd bowles. I think giving him another shot would be interesting to but i know that he's also you know like like you mentioned you know. They've interviewed refused from the colts. And then you have. Eric the enemy who's also interviewed. So i'm curious to see whether or not one the enemy decides. Hey like i'm gonna go ahead and take one of these jobs as opposed. I think he probably just be better off waiting until next year. Same with brian daboll. Who's apparently pulled his name out of consideration for both these jobs so i think it might just be better for them. The weight you know going into next year to see if you have a better situation where again. Both these jobs. So often houston. We've been talking has been the offseason really you know. We've been talking about all this organizational dysfunction from the top. Coming down i. I don't think that's a situation that you'd want to step in the head coach ryan. What what if you're byron left which we've heard. Some chatter byron left. Which i the right now. His team still alive and well. They got game to play on sunday. But that's just like airbnb byron left which i mean. We've seen the potential from him. Do you see him being a head coach. Sooner rather than later. I definitely amid here on over is going to be this season. Viking goes soon. But it's to talk about one thing i want to talk about. Is i think that industrial should make a rule that teams don't hire their coach until after the super bowl. Because i feel like a lot of guys are getting jobs right now by by default because other are wrapped up because their teams are still playing right one hundred percent and i feel like if everybody did a process in. Just think about it. The falcons probably would interview airbnb. Or you know Flu but any day is. They're still in the playoffs offs also. Did you get interviewed him. But you can't hire me yet. You know so i feel like every team should wait to the end of the season to really hire guy or at least start interviewing there is because then this this list completely different but secondly in a mostly black head coach. I would not be going to houston. I'm gonna just be honest. I wouldn't go to houston because right now is too much things going on over there and like i. I just don't like the coach. They have over there Honesty that the past owner. Who said what he said. But his family still owns the team in survey My dad potty says that way my son chose that way too so as Would want to go there. S assad tracker. We talk about Brian to me. I wouldn't even want to go to houston only want to go. There is because of the shawn watson but not because of the ownership or mentioned okay so long and short of it and caleb. i'm. I'm assuming that you agree. That the better of the two jobs and more appealing has to be philadelphia. Only because they they've got more picks they've they've got a quarterback with that's getting paid a whole lot less money and the organizationally yeah. There's there's not that there's not that turmoil that we don't have all that turmoil that that inner that infighting that's going on right now down in houston because not just. Winning football games on sunday is going to be a hurdle that you have to jump over but just getting those relationships all lined up and making sure that everybody's on the same page that's going to be another test to tackle. Think i think. Because of the shawn watson i think because he's proven to be at that superstar level it. It might be a little bit more intriguing than me than philadelphia and it depends on whether you not you believe in carson. Wentz being fixable. I think that's what it really comes down to. Whether or not you know you can deal with howie roseman jeffer- laurie really directing how you're going to approach building the team now. Like right mentioned that's a really older squad. You know their their time has kinda passed as far as being in the league team. There's some younger pieces on houston. Charles many hugh lonnie johnson guys on that side of the ball. And you have it. The shawn watson offense. Who if you get lucky enough you could stumble into you know. Sending wins eight wins nine wins like if you extremely lucky having a talented quarterback behind center like consistently so. I don't know that might be the temptation for me. If i were head coach. But you know. I know again rides were off track but i think you know. A nail nails hits the hammer and nail. You're like there's only two black head coaches in the league. Now at following the cycle you know unless a black head coach picks. He's in philadelphia. I think that's really really sad and really weird. Considering we had all this talk last offseason about how the week was going to incentivize the league prioritizing you know giving minority head coach the chance to robert solid chance. I muslim head coach in. Nfl history. I believe but you know we went from what four or five black coaches nail to to the problem especially in the league that knows what sixty to seventy percent black inch seventy percent african american. I mean it is crazy to see and hopefully you know those. Two spots are still to be occupied. We'll see someone of color no matter no matter who it is in one of those positions. Because there's a lot of talent but like we said in in houston. There's also a lot of bickering going back and forth all right guys. We had a lot of fun. We made some predictions. We look forward to championship sunday. Quite possibly the best day in all of sports you know what. I don't mean to extend the time here ryan. Everyone always says championship. Sundays is one of the best days. But you know what i like divisional weekend a lot. I mean we got to see four games. You get two on saturday to on sunday. I'm championship sunday. You only get to you to agree with you especially when you have really good game divisional of sunday individual weekend is is a great weekend while car while car weekend was just a lot going know what channel to watch but nah i think visual weekend is definitely is definitely smooth. You get to see two four four really good games but why people love championship weekend because you know after his game you gain the super bowl and the other thing is that you normally would get really really good for ball in his name right here so this is his game in these games in and you know it just it is sad but it is not in close to an animal by the champion absolute n. Caylin just three games left on this. Nfl season you know before we started rolling when we didn't know if we were going to get a season at all it's exciting as a fan. I guess that you know we. We got the see football like we're always going to be invested you know. I'm glad that you know you know they were able to you know without anyone getting at least for as far as we know getting you know being significantly impacted afterwards by cove it you know. It's definitely still weird like it's hard to be excited as a fan because again like you know. They're playing in a pandemic but i'm glad that you know they. At least you're this point. We haven't had anything significant. You know hurt anybody. I guess any of the players or coaches afterwards that that's probably the positive takeaway but hopefully next year. We don't have to deal with this at all. That would be the prisoner. There was a log jam. You know right before the season wrapped up just a little bit when it came to scheduling this season has helped provide somewhat of a sense of normalcy in guys roll along with. You makes things that much better. And that's going to bring a close to this tuesday edition of the wringer. Nfl show with ryan shazier. Calin jones and myself coal right were part of the wringer podcast network. And as always you can follow us on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts and you can also follow us on twitter at ringer and fell next on the wednesday ringer. Nfl show chris vernon those two cats. They're going to look ahead to the championship. Round in a wrap up the divisional rather and provides some insights as always in this weekend. You also may want to scribble this down because immediately following the final conference game on sunday the ring. Nfl show. They're gonna go live so make sure you subscribe to the ringer's youtube channel youtube dot com slash the ringer and following the ringer on twitter at the wringer nfl sunday. It's going to be kevin and nor prince yada. You won't wanna miss that and next week we'll be back. We're going to take a look to the super bowl and put championships sunday under the microscope. For kaelin and ryan. I'm coal. It's been fun. we'll see you next time.

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Full Show (Chiefs' win, 49ers/Packers, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady)

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Full Show (Chiefs' win, 49ers/Packers, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady)

"The man Oh man while go to first thing spur some general. This is Dany Canal and that my friends on Earth America burs Virgil High Five. How's how's it going? My Dad was so concerned with new. All weekends thousand warranty. Is he going to be okay. What's Monday can be like? I know what you're gonNA descending. I told anyone who asked me how it was feeling my team has Patrick bleeping mahomes. I feel great. I feel great. You know I thought I was worried. I was like man Nick's going to be insufferable the next two weeks but after watching that video only seconds seconds but to see like a true fan like yes. You've been strong on your takes the homes and the chiefs but to see the phantom come out. I think that's pretty cool. I didn't I didn't know what a real sea that my whole life. Yeah Yeah really made the super says. Excuse me this is how it happened chiefs hosting in Tennessee in the AFC championship game yesterday. And Patrick Mahomes continue to show why he just may be the best player in the world. Mahomes led the team with fifty three yards rushing and a touchdown to go along with his nearly three hundred passing yards and another three touchdowns through the Air Chiefs Win Thirty five twenty four Senate titans packing. They advanced to their first super bowl in fifty. Years aren't nick. I hope you caught the whole game. what was the key to Kansas. City's win once again. They find themselves down early down ten nothing down seventeen seven this time they stayed aide poised. They didn't have any major self inflicted errors that it wasn't a bunch of drops it wasn't a muffed punt. Is something where you're like. Oh this all could go wrong. They stayed DOT com. They and they waited for Patrick mahomes takeover. I'm Patrick mahomes takeover. He did and you showed the play Jenna and we showed showed it for the first time a moment ago and it is a play and I do not say this because I'm a lifelong city fan. I say this because I watched it that play will live on in NFL history. That is an all time playoff moment by a guy who is proving himself to be an all time playoff performer. And the other thing that play did Danny was not only give the chiefs lead going into the half but I believe it was the final nail in scaring sharing the titans out of their game plan in the second half Derrick. Henry carried the ball three times. They clearly were knocked out of what they wanted in to do because they knew our well. We can't cover guys if we don't double one or two people but when we double two guys he can do that to us. They're going to score at will repeatedly and score. Will they did. So when you have the best player in the League you're in an enormous advantage. Andy Reid once again. Caldy Lee brilliant game and the chiefs did not give the titans. The real hope await. This could be our day because after the slow start instead of a fifty one to seven-run like last week it was just a thirty five to seven run to put this game away. There were some similarities to this. And the Texans game. As far as the slow star chiefs you had a couple well drops and then you look at the scoreboard. But I didn't feel anywhere. Maybe it's because we saw what they did last week. I never felt like man. We could see an upset today. It just enlarge part art like why does this happen. It's because a number fifteen. He is so special and you combine him with the amount of talent that he has around him. And the Andy Reid. One of the better off mets of mine in the history of the game. And that's why you never feel like you're out of a game Patrick. Mahomes has never lost a game. Aim more than a touchdown. He's always had his team within position to at least tie in the fourth quarter and that is the biggest compliment you can play pay a a player specifically a quarterback is that with him in the huddle. You always feel. Your team has a chance going into the game but also no matter what the score and the game is what does it say about the chiefs. Not Just Patrick Holmes. Also Andy Reid who you brought up. Because you don't want him to get lost in all this. Patrimony has been cessation. Andy Reid was there every step of the way that there are there in the super bowl after coming up just short last year. That is an organizational success. I br ve. Each is the general manager of this team. They addressed the the obvious needs on the defensive side of the ball as best they could. They made sure they retained Chris Jones. They went out and got honey. Badger tire in Matthew. They switch out deformed and Justin in Houston for Frank Clark Frank Clark by the way who had multiple massive sacks and the Texans Games and then the play that you guys showed rhyme celebrating at the end. That was is a Frank Clark sack to officially end the football game and they did something that we think the smart folks in the media. I have tried to encourage these teams. That have sensational young quarterbacks to do they went all in. They said we are yes. We're going to have Patrick for the next ten to fifteen years. But he's never going to be as cheap as he is right now so we will trade first round picks for Frank Clark. We'll make sure even if Sammy Watkins. Z. Really really worth his salary. You know what we'll bring them back. We are not going to be one percent worse than we were last year. And that's how you get there and they did not allow last year's playoff disappointment against the Patriots to get in their heads while looked like this year's playoffs. We're going to be a disaster into the Texans. They stayed poised. These stayed calm and they stayed believing as long as teams out there. We can beat anybody. That's how they got where they were. This game was so big for Andy Reid though in his legacy as a head coach. He's one of the most underrated coaches in NFL history. I think people look at Andy Reid and say offense of mine like I was just talking. What about but you can't win the big one or clock mismanage issues which have plagued him in the past which is really unfair? But sometimes that's what happens as a narrative as a society we just kind of label. W WHA something that now that he's getting his second super bowl. I thought he was a hall of fame coach no matter what happened in the outcome of this game but you have to start building up that resume now. He's getting to a second and if they do pull it off then. It's a lock as far as the hall of fame and I'm going to add one other thing one other person who I think. He wasn't even active yesterday but deserves immense credit because for the last fourteen teams make the Super Bowl had the by if the chiefs finish eleven and five they do not get the by. They went to and won along with Matt. Moore's the quarterback. When Patrick went down we went down early in that Denver game for his decided than they had Green Bay and Minnesota to playoff teams? They they annihilated Denver. They beat Minnesota without their starting quarterback. They lose that game. The whole world's different the patriots loss in week. Seventeen doesn't matter they still get the buy and who the hell knows what happens. So Matt Moore in the team's ability when they saw Patrick Mahomes potentially carted off the field to not to fall apart art and to stay afloat until he got back to one of the big reasons there in the super. I love your giving credit to the backup quarterback but also remember when there was video and rumors that maybe Patrick mahomes homes. Were GonNA come back the week before having more play as well as he did. Allow them to say you know what I mean. They can go one day. Beat mentors is. They'd lost Green Bay a close game and then was he gonNA come back from Minnesota. He didn't they won the game anyway but more and the decision to hold Patrick Mahomes out that extra week again. Goes towards Andy Reid in the job the he did this year to keep that team healthy and where they are just to the titans the absence put a crate on it. Sponsored by Carmax ax. Nick Mahomes finished twenty thirty five two hundred ninety four passing yards three touchdowns to go along with an unbelievably impressive rushing touchdown that you mentioned put a great day. He gets a quadruple. Plus of course such a perfect score the key questions of cheated on the test but somebody's occurred to me. Danny who's been that old segment segment. We didn't mention the alleged new king and the NFL. He thought he could just be sixty. He was laundry grocery today. Quadruple plus Patrick mahomes. Plus with a bunch of stickers smiley faces everything all stars all over at insane performance from him the statistics off the charts. I mean he was. He's that special factor and says oh monarch shocks those chiefs red tie. I I see what this is a great day at least until I have to start thinking about the fact that they're playing the niners and that team is so scarce they are team is so scary. I think we're happy for you. Thank so star to wear long three weeks. Our game last night wasn't much of a battle for the packers and niners niners would absolutely dominate. Thanks to an unlikely hero in running back where he moster. Twenty nine carries two hundred and twenty yards and four touchdowns I player in. NFL history with four rushing touchdowns in a conference championship game. Niners win thirty seven to twenty. They advanced Super Bowl. Fifty four nick was this more about the niner's dominance or the packers lackluster performance. Oh I wanNA give full credits. In the niners there's this is about their dominance and it was a carbon copy of week. Twelve where there's a critical fumble that takes points off and leads points for the opposition where the end of the first half could not possibly have gone worse for the packers than and then ended up in the week in week. Twelve with like you're going to go into the half down twenty nothing. They tacked on a field goal. This want look like down twenty. Nothing they tacked on a touchdown and I feel like such an idiot. Mike my Lifelong commitment to take integrity. Integrity is never cost me more than it didn't analyzing this game because before the year. Danny I said Super Bowl chiefs packers. The last thing I want to do is the conference championship weekend when they're both with the live is diverting anyway but we sat right here after the week twelve game and I said what I believed in what I saw at the time which was the packers only path to the super bowl. Is someone else beating. San Francisco of Seattle gets them. Beat them if San Francisco trips up early because as they can't block San Francisco and they can't deal with San Francisco's blockers. The defensive line for San Francisco dominated in both matchups the offensive line for San Francisco dominating both matchups and so. That's what happened yesterday. Was it now green bay and Rogers a lot of those numbers or hollow. And he's going to hate you re watching his performance in this but the niners annihilated the packers and they could have done it with quite literally anyone playing quarterback it was all all about their big people in the run game and their pre game plan. Credits Kyle Shanahan one of the best offense of mines in the world and credit to that niners defensive front that John Lynch has been first round. Pick up the first round. Pick on to do what they did. I think it's even a cop out to say it's a combination of forty niners domination the lackluster performance from the packers. Because I don't think it I think it was just sheer domination. When you're able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball which was glaringly obvious in that game as you had Aaron Rogers who was absolutely spooked in the first half he was thrown off his game? He was jittery in the pocket. He couldn't wait to get rid of the football combined. That with the dominance on the run game when table to establish the run work. Jimmy Garoppolo doesn't even have to hardly attempt to pass in the second half. That is a complete annihilation on both sides of all about the forty niners dominance. Did anyone think that this team would be super bowl. Bound at the start of the season. Danny did you because I know you were not fully bought in what about you know I mean I. I was looking looking up their odds before. And they're around thirty to one. which was the same as the Falcons same as the Viking? So some people believe them. I personally didn't I didn't think Jimmy Garoppolo the with with a limited window like I'm always a believer in. I need to see more. I need to see a bigger body of work before. I believe that a quarterback can take a team to a superbowl. I've just seen too many one. One hit wonders where they go on strike for six or eight games and then they get exposed. I've been pleasantly surprised with Jimmy Garoppolo. Now he wasn't this day grapple grapple with and it still takes something to get your team to the number one seed to have all the success they did. It's a credit to both though 'cause Kalle Shanahan has developed this which is very similar. I played for Mike Shanahan in Denver. You can see the blueprint very clearly. It's the commitment to the run. It's an again look at the backs that they'd had gone through this year castaways which was very similar to the Denver. Broncos Land is Gary Mike Anderson or even in Cleveland when they brought us in their own costumes. They're Peyton Hillis. I eighty eight. I don't want to say anyone can run in this system with right offensive lineman but it seems like anyone that's good enough to make the NFL can look like a star in this system system. If you have the right offensive lineman with this play call. And that's that's the tribute that's there. And that's the consistent. Commitment to the run is very clearly there and most had such an incredible incredible game stores. It's still absolutely most is such an incredible story. If you're looking and it's it's you know practiced God Guy Twenty fifteen. Eighteen spent time on five different rosters before finally getting an opportunity on the forty niners. Practice squad almost gets cut and he talked about. Hey coach Shannahan Kyle Shanahan believed in me me and how that belief was so important. How it all culminated in last night sort of breakout performance on the big stage? It's unbelievable story June. Answer your question. I am shocked by the Niners as far as what I thought about them. Going into the year not shocked by them. What I thought of going into the playoffs? Even though I picked the packers to a close game yesterday foolishly I thought so this was a seven or eight when I did not see the leap coming that Vegas saw when aides said they were. You mentioned that they were in that kind of the third tier of Super Bowl contenders where they had their projected win. Total at nine. I said where where winds coming from. I know that Jimmy G. got hurt astern derailed their season. But I thought the mullins could come in and played well and I like you don't or at least i. I don't think Jimmy Johns great so I just didn't see this massive sleep coming what I did. Not Factor was the impact Nikki. Bosa would have the all those young first round pick defensive lineman a year better a year older Robert Sala the defensive corners. Doing a masterful job that the way they use US check and the way they have a fullback. centric offense when you've got the best fullback in the league. The best tight end blocking tight end in the league and the second best pass catching tight end the that type of offensive line with mcglinchey and Staley and that zone blocking scheme they can just Mo- over people so I now with the benefit of hindsight can say oh well that's why they were thought out of so much more highly in the preseason than I thought of them. But I'm shocked. I The as right as I've been all year long but the chiefs I've been that wrong about the niner's I was one of the People Richer Moose talking talking about always lose waiting. What own the schedule gets tougher? Well what if they have Seattle again man they they are in when you watch him Danny their terrifying terrifying that the ability for them to get pressure with four. That is the solve for a great offense is if you do not have to send extra people and you can still be harassing the quarterback. The way they did. That's got to already be starting this morning. Andy Reid it's got to be thinking. HOW ARE WE GONNA Keep Patrick Upright Right? And how are we going to deal with those behemoths. They have on the defensive front. It's unfair to be able to get that much pressure with four guys that allows you to do so many different things disguising using blitzes mixing up coverages and it makes a quarterback's life miserable when you can do that. All right. The forty niners go from a foreign twelve season last year to a super bowl appearances. He's here all right moving on to the titans and chiefs and Patrick Mahomes state at all yesterday the reigning. Mvp Eh the team in rushing with fifty three yards and a score on the ground. And if that wasn't enough he also through for nearly three hundred yards and another three touchdowns chiefs win thirty five twenty four to advance to their first super bowl in fifty years. Here's Mahomes after another stellar performance. Being able to do it at home win. The Lamar Hunt Trophy here and do it for the fans and everybody like that was awesome. We fell short last year and we learned from it and we we built every single day and now we have the chance to go to go to Miami and get the ultimate goal which is Super Bowl. Nick I know you can be completely objective about this I've been eating the home cemented himself as the next all time. Great with performance yesterday. Oh I think he's cemented himself self as an already all time great. I think that there's no. There's no more next there. He's one game away from all ready in two years the starter having a hall of Fame Resume League MVP and if they get a super bowl championship twelve and four in the regular season twelve and four in the regular season hosting never having to play a road playoff game day if they end up pulling this off the only player in history to win league MVP and be starting quarterback for super champion. Not being the hall of Fame Joe Theismann at least in the last fifty years and Joe a lot and he wasn't going to thirty percent of the player. Patrick is he can do everything on the football field. And Danny and I hope you take this thing Zach right way I would imagine for for a guy who played the position. It's almost frustrating. Watching him play because he got all of it he got you know what I mean. There's there's there is no weakness in his. It's not like okay okay. So like even when he walks brady. It's like all right well. He didn't get touched on the head. When it came to Atlanticism like you know what I mean? He got everything else. The Patrick got every trait. You would want want from a quarterback. He's clearly the best player in football. And Lamar deserves MVP. There's no one in the world would rather have Lamar's their quarterback. Can Patrick no one in the world rather have Erin or Tom or drew or any of them and he's twenty four years old so to me. Danny he's already one of the greatest players we've ever ever seen Andy Super Likable. Like it really is. That's why he's got this magnetic personality. I like talking about takes that you've had last ear. I had a pretty good cop form after about thirty touchdown. So we'll say it was a little bit earlier than some which you're not that much more past mid season. I really feel the impact is out on the game because clearly clearly styles of play. He's Dan Marino Dan Marino. You could see. He was going to be a star in his rookie season and it just kind of went from there and of course Patrick Mahomes. uh-huh could already surpass him if he gets the Super Bowl in just his third season in the NFL. Like he's already on this trajectory this stats that he's putting up or obscene gene. They're off the charts I to start his postseason career with ten touchdowns before his first interception I guy in NFL history to have two hundred and fifty passing yards yards and fifty rushing yards in back to back games. I mean you can you can go on and on with the accolades that you can give them but what you brought up is you have any not only me who was a scrub the the NFL's. I'm sitting here jealous like that. Guy's got the total package. But I guarantee you. There are pro bowl quarterbacks in the NFL. Who Look at Patrick Mahomes and says I can't do that and that like that is unbelievable? His athletic skill set is what you would want in today's NFL. He has every single asset that you would want your. He also passes the the genetization where he's he. He has all the intangibles. He's a likable. He he's a great guy he's smart. He's focused. He really wants to get better at his craft after and he doesn't just rest on the laurels of what I did in my first season. So obviously going to do it again. And he's quarterbacks are judged by what they do in the postseason and every single. It'll playoff game. He's been better than the previous one. They the first game ever played in the playoffs against the colts. In throw a touchdown pass and they dominated that game he played well but his passer rating was in the ninety s his second career playoff game against the Patriots. He was not good in that first half. They scored zero points. He was then sensation second half his third career playoff game. They annihilate the Texans after falling down twenty four nothing and he was even better yesterday. He here's the full list of quarterbacks who have thrown at least one hundred twenty playoff golf passes with a passer rating north of one hundred Rogers no longer on the list. By the way he was dipped beneath it. Bart Starr's at one five Kurt Warner's at one. Three Matt Ryan's WanNa one Rodgers at ninety nine breeze at ninety nine. Patrick Mahomes is at one hundred and fifteen he. He has been at his best in the biggest spots in theory against the toughest competition where the teams have the most time. And we're most focused on stopping him and right now that chiefs offense because of him is an unsolvable equation him along with Andy. Legg is the perfect it is a there is a great question. What if someone else drives him? What have you who knows but I knew he? I went to the perfect system with the perfect coach and the perfect talent. So we all get to watch a guy. Who is the most talented quarterback ever that? I'm comfortable thank yeah. He is physically gifted quarterback ever any plays the position so in a way where Danny I'm shocked. We throws an accurate pass. When there's a pass that does not go where he wanted it to go that bastard Kelsey in the corner of the end zone that they called incomplete up that I think might actually been a touchdown touchdown? They reviewed it. That was ninety nine out of one hundred difficulty and a one hundred one hundred throw and we see him do it repeatedly. We almost get numb to it. I think if view ask anybody who was the WHO had the best arm in the history of football. It's probably Jeff George over quarterback who was that I think his arm is every bit as talented. And then you combine that. Because because he's a better teammate. A Better Athlete and he can run the way you can. It is unfair. He's got there's so many quarterbacks who only work in one system and you look at Patrick Mahomes and he can well in any any system in the NFL. It's not just what he's got right here. It'd be a top twenty quarterback for the maiden played left-handed he's completed. Please let these probably to persist art. Let's move on to the NFC championship and despite all the talk about how good Aaron Rogers would would need to be in order to beat the forty niners he was anything but rogers finish with two interceptions three sacks and a fumble and as a result the packers finish with the thirty-seven two twenty loss and so green. Bay's impressive season comes up one game shy of the Super Bowl. Here is Aaron Rodgers after the loss. It's a little raw right now for sure but Definitely hurts a little more than early in the career just because you realize just how difficult difficult is to get to this spot and with all the changes this off season with all the installation of a new system and a new program to get to this point you felt like it was special because you know just didn't really make sense you know work that by most people to win our division And we found a way to now they do that but went home playoff game and get to the spot is kind of felt like it was meant to be almost so that is this morning a little more disappointed than you realize you know. I don't have the same number of years ahead of me as I do by me. So it's slightly mortis point. Interestingly enough Aaron Rodgers has reminded us about how many years he has left and how he's come a number of times so far this season he is well all aware of what he's got left. So Danny I ask you the Super Bowl window all but shut on the green bay packers Aaron Rodgers snow. He's still he's still got the physical skill skillset to take a team to the Super Bowl. I mean if you look at its production the last few years. It hasn't tapered off it. All is complete representatives down slightly touchdowns are down a little bit. But they didn't need him to to do much more than that. I still think he's meaning. We're talking about Patrick Mahomes. Aaron Rodgers was in that conversation before we were just having about how unbelievably gifted is Aaron. Rodgers has that it's maybe slightly less but there was a time when everybody unanimously would've said Aaron Rodgers is that guy that was underwhelming performance from him earlier in the show was talking about how I felt like he had he'd been spooked in the pocket. I do think that the pass rush got to him but probably one of the most disappointing thing to me. Aaron Rodgers and maybe it's throughout his career is it kind of sounds sound sort of dumb but the body language where is the ability to go in there and light your team up and encourage them and get your players to really truly play around you more with more inspiration as opposed to. Hey I'm going to go out there and deliver every time. That's that's what he does. And there's the fumble someone out there. What's the body language on this one and he just watches it go down and he's ticked off? I get it but he watches it. It just goes and he didn't Cam. Newton got skewered award in the Super Bowl for not jumping on a fumble. And just letting it go. where's that criticism Aaron Rodgers and there's a body language in different and I wish there was a little bit more of fiery mahomes when they were down against the Texans when he goes over to the sidelines? Let's gets into his offensive. One word to go do some special. Where is that from Aaron Rodgers? There's I know you don't want to be somebody to be somebody they aren't but I look at them and I do think that's one thing that's missing from his game so so this one's tough for me because I really I really like Erin. I know Erin very little bit. I think he's somewhat unfairly portrayed in the media and once upon a time I remember I I remember saying in two thousand ten fake trade. If you would trade me Aaron Rodgers you can have my first round pick in perpetuity. Every year is all my team. You get my bed and I I think it would have been a great trade forever. Got Him and from nine to fourteen he was put a six year run better than it statistically inequality back ever for has but the year is over and he was really bad in the first half yesterday really bad two turnovers of fifty two rating. He put up a lot of really good numbers and amazing. throated Devante late. But when you're down twenty-seven nothing at half I know at one point they cut it to fourteen but that game was was over at half-time for the second time against the niners by the way and when you look at it and you look at the fact that post twenty fourteen. He hasn't been great. He is only at one great season. That was two thousand sixteen when they got annihilated in the NFC championship game by Atlanta and then touchdowns there's one great year post two thousand fourteen. Ah But they. The defense was not up to the task. The team itself is only had one great year. Post two thousand fourteen. That was this year as far as getting a by getting a top two seed. They they get an late in the NFC championship game and once again and I get his frustration even if he won't say it the his team's on average have going into this game. Allow thirty six points per game in his playoff losses. They allow thirty seven points in this loss. But the Aaron Rodgers era as him being the best is player in the League competing for championships every year. I think it ended in twenty fourteen and we were just late to the party. And how did two thousand fourteen end conference MM championship game up two scores on Seattle and then the meltdown. Not by him but by the team at the end the overtime Russell Wilson on psychic all of it that that was his last best chance to get to a super bowl until this one and this one they did not appear to be in. San Francisco's league. You wonder that San Francisco had lost the final game of the regular season right and they had lost to Seattle which they were a few inches from. Don't you think San Francisco if they had to go on on the road and round to to Green Bay. They could've done something very similar to this APPs. No matter where this game was played. They just don't have they don't have Green Bay doesn't have the horses to hold up with San Francisco unless Rogers and I'd say can be mahomes and right now. He's not that anymore and I don't think he's going to be that at thirty seven. One the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen but I do think the era is over in the window is closed. Are you guys. We WanNa make sure you don't think I'm crazy. Are you with me on the body. Language on the field almost looks like he's always dissatisfied with something and we crush player historically Jay Cutler is somebody that we always got on because he had bad body language. I I feel like Aaron Rodgers in that category. But he's had success so we're okay with it on the field impress Rodman says you could watch a press conference with the sound off and never know if he won or lost. It's the game that it'd be even keeled press conference that he's not wearing his emotions on on on asleep. Here's the thing about his body language and here's one of the reasons it doesn't matter that's why I'm wondering sounds Corny. Listen I in in my experience. Not all of them but historically all time great athletes that have immense expectations for those around them. Sometimes unrealistic ones sometimes during the game can't hide it because what's the I think the most fair knock on Lebron he got bad body language. Man He will do what a lot of that on the court. Now you can get away with more than basketball than footballs the quarterback but we the we've seen this in the past from other guys who are great but their success is reliant on other people doing their jobs and I would imagine if you feel like I'm sure he feels I might be the best person to ever do. This and I have been held back a bit either by coaching coaching or by ineffective teammates. Sometimes you can't keep stone sometimes. You can't hide that right and so I think I do think it exists. I just think it's understandable and it's something when I say errands unfairly portrayed I think there's other guys with those same traits and we pick it Aaron a little bit more because of how talented Swin thirty five twenty four. They advance to their first super bowl in fifty years. Nick Right. What was the key to the chiefs win yesterday? Once again they find themselves in a double digit deficit. Yes in a playoff game which for the vast majority of teams is panic mode. The chiefs panicked a bit last week when they found themselves down fourteen. Nothing's why Andy. Reid took out their pro bowl. All Kick returner Punt returner putting McColl Hartman or tow came out put in tyreek. Only I've tyreek muffled pont now all of a sudden it's twenty one. Nothing I think because of that experience and the way they were able to overcome it they stayed calm. They stayed within the game plan and the game. Point is not that complex. Let the best player in the world. Be The best player in the world. Didn't see if the other team can stop and they couldn't and the turning point was obviously and I'm not saying anything unique here that run. We showed and not only that Kansas City got the lead going into halftime after being thoroughly outplayed. The first quarter of the game. It's that to me. It scared scare the titans out of their game. Plan it for after that moment. Derrick Henry had seven yards. There's a four point game titans had the ball again when when it was still a four point game even when they were down eleven there was enough time left thought okay. You're going to have at least two possessions if you can you being Tennessee. The and I think they ended up with three more possessions. Few stick with your game plan and you believe you can get stops can keep running it. But they knew they couldn't stop him because if you don't double guys he's GonNa find the open guy if you do double guys is going to do that to you. So that was the key is sports are very complex. But sometimes the very simple the team eighteen with the single best player very often wins. And that's how the chiefs one yesterday. It's interesting to to watch his team because we we talked about after last week that they couldn't spot another team they couldn't spot Tennessee lead and then the Tennessee lead and and it's frustrating in to watch as good as patch. MOMS Ben the other mistakes that come up that put the chiefs in the situations that they're in and whether it's the penalty on third and twenty two the fake punt or jumping size are all those things that mahomes then is able to to overcome and it has been impressive and I still don't understand why nobody can contain him and and keep in the pocket. We've been talking about this for two years. Who Years how important that is and again again? He has that run that that he has. It's it's It has been very impressive to watch not just what he's done from an athletic ability in for a performance ability but I do respect the character that he's shown in these difficult situations to bring the team back out were. Are you surprised. Though at the Titan in there was some poor tackling but to your point how teams led him. Get outside we talk about fundamentals of the game especially coaches. They'll harp on it hat placement things like that. There were a couple of times where I'm seeing the end. Either go way too high. And he let him slip at that corner or they would lose contained autumn. And just let him get to the outside a couple of times and you're thinking thinking well how does this not happen and yet maybe it was one player who was out of place and then that split second is what allows them to buy that much more time but clearly with number fifteen on the field. That's that's why they're allowed to do this. But did you. Shock shocks me it shot. It blows me away. It doesn't it doesn't because I know my variable talked about it and I know he's talked talked about it. I coached. I worked with Dean Pees I work with Romeo Cornell for years he talked about it. I talked to Romeo about it. And it's one of those things where in less the guys are committed to it and understand. It's that one time you're going to just go under and try to make a play and I mentioned this on Friday as well and these big games a lot of times guys make plays and they go outside of the scheme and they do but they make plays for the other team players like this can exploit that one moment where you decide to take that chair and on the run like the players at the end you're trying to go for the Strip as opposed to the tackle. That's gotta be the seconds left and I know the chiefs at timeouts but with eleven seconds I love you got three plays Max. Maybe you hold them to a field goal if you just get him to the ground but I wanNA give I wanNA give one other group credit. And that's what the chiefs defense did do against Eric Henry We came into the game talking about whether or not he was the best player in the League whether the run he was on and and by the way after our show Friday Frank Clark gave him these always here with this bulletin board gave him real belief. If such a thing is real game real Baltimore material. Say It's not that hard to tackle. He's he's not that good damn he's a big guy easy. Get your arms around and that right there. Y- at the titans forced of pond on the chiefs opening. Drive the second half they. We have the ball. They're Derek. Reid had a good first half. They have the ball with the chance to take the lead. The chiefs commit back penalties. So it's now I and five He. He runs for four yards on. I doubt second one stoned third and one stoned again stopped short. That's the play where there is a holding penalty called. I know the Internet. It's a buzz with the guy. Through his flag early. There was an illegal formation. That's what that flag was and a holding penalty and by the way that right there is the last time he touched the football. They had to abandon it or they chose to abandon it. And that put the Game Orion Daniels shoulders which was obviously not what the titans were hoping we all said not just us. Everyone was saying the titans weren't GonNa get away from what brought them here. The Titans God here because Derrick Henry was running the ball even if they fell behind we thought they were still going to continue to and yet they sort of course and put the ball intangibles hands more than I think we. We all thought but at that was sort of helped by another slow. Start from the chiefs. You've said we we talk about. How Great Andy Reid is? I'm wondering why for at least the first couple minutes of the game. The team once again is that nerves and when you look at a team like that. Why is it that they've a team? That's so seemingly buttoned up like the chiefs come out slow again. It's frustrating and it feels a little bit like they build off the momentum of the offense the defense builds off that momentum and and everything's gotTa feel that to to get going and somebody could be underestimating opponent and you come in you think and just like the way that Nick speak. Sometimes that can affect the locker room. Where there's there's a sense said Oh of course we're going to win and when you have Patrick Mahomes it's well he'll take take care of it and I think Baltimore fell? Victim that Lamar Jackson. We're guys came out so but the whole name they're saying don't worry about it. Lamar Jackson handle the game. You know he'll he'll get this on and and it works put its low percentage it. It's it's low percentage football and at some point that luck is going to run out and when you make those types of mistakes it's GonNa be that those mistakes that you look back twenty and thirty years from now and say. I can't believe that was the difference in the game. It didn't affect them. They are going back to the super. What does it say about that? After the year they had as close as they came now. This is the position therein. That's just quickly coach. You don't pick up. Where are you left off the previous year? And the teams have to know that the one addendum I would put to that is but if you have a superstar quarterback you do pick up with with the expectation of. We've got to be back there. We've got to be in the at least the divisional round or pass because Payton's expectations brady's Rogers until recently we always and the fact that the chiefs didn't look that crush them and that even when they went through some real adversity losing back to back games. Having a quarterback down found themselves back in this position Tweets Amazing Testament to the coaching and the overall maturity of a relatively young team and he's been in the playoffs. How many years since the six out of seven when his fourth straight division title pretty incredible run that he's had and he does a good job of recalibrating each all season? Getting these guys focused on the TASCA MELENA row to air rogers finished with three sacks two interceptions options and one fumble in the loss yesterday but after the Game Roger said the window is open for us. Danny Kanell. you're out on Aaron Rodgers Super Bowl window still gene open. I'm in the play. Still been there. He's still playing in an elite level. There's a lot of teams that trust me. Would sign up and say he'll be our quarterback. He's only thirty six years old old if he wants it he can get it. I'd be they have to help him get. They're giving them more help on defense but that window still open absolutely in. Anytime you've got Aaron Rodgers you have a chance. Yes and he overcome overcame a rookie head coach and a lot of transition this year to get them where they are unfortunately on out I think the window. We didn't realize it at the time. You're shaking your the head coach Rogers one of my favorite players ever. But he's only since two thousand fourteen. He's had one great season since two thousand fourteen. The team has had one great season and both years into the same one annihilation in the Conference Championship. Being by the Falcons and one annihilation Neilly Conference Championship game by the niners. I don't think he's any longer so so great that he can overcome a lack of talent around around him and they haven't done a great job on offense surrounding him with all the right pieces. I don't know why we would expect age. Thirty seven him to be better than he was this year and this year they went. That's the thing he if he plays this year and they get a little bit better. They were thirteen and three. I know we were so close to having that homefield same Roger Fair to say I have to be objective. Game of thrones Mahomes had another brilliant performance yesterday the reigning. MVP finished with four total touchdowns to carry the chiefs to the first super bowl in fifty years. Dana You you win around on Mahomes. Proving he's the best player in the NFL. One hundred percent and I thought after last season didn't change one bit this season. He is special. He's got every the physical attribute you would want all the intangibles we want a franchise quarterback. He's likable his players like him. He's a winner. You can't say enough about patch mahomes. Yeah I mean birthday. Even though you weren't on this do all during this every week. I want to be like Lamar Jackson. Zack's and Lamar Jackson. Lamar has one bad game. And Patrick. You're in on the ninth. I'm in on it because as I've watched this team give up gigantic deficits early in the game. And the fact that he's been able to have the poise had the presence to rally ellie and Riley and the way that he does to me. That's not only unique skill set but it's a unique set of characteristics that you look for in in your leader really wise man. I'm in told me shocking. We're going to evaluate quarterbacks by how they doing the postseason by how they do in your to buy how they do win guys see them another time and Patrick mahomes has answered. All those questions passed every test with flying colors every single playoff game. He's been better than the previous one. He has the highest passer rating in the playoffs in NFL history by a wide margin. Of course. He's the best player in football during the season. I never wavered from that. I said Lamar deserved the the MVP. Because he did but everyone knows path. I was going to make sure that this is not a knock against Lamar Jackson. He's clearly MVP but this is a different conversation. He's in a different elite. Who was the Wiseman Nick coach? Jeanie Jeanie Johnston not. Tom Brady said he is quote open-minded about playing for a different team. Next season reports are radius quote embarrassed by his salary and players to move off of the Patriots. Danny winter out on Tom Brady playing next season in New England. I am in on top. I think wants all the dust settles in the rumor mill has fun with it and social media starts trending thing because of some picture that was taken with an owner. Whatever happens whenever the dust settles bill belichick and Tom Brady will come to their senses and say our best chance to win in another super bowl is with each other? I think they both either. Tom Brady is back with the Patriots. Yeah I'm I'm in as well. I think I think sometimes negotiations you gotTA show that you're willing willing to walk away and if it salary is the issue. Tom Has to show that he's willing to move away from the table. And I think at that point becomes not just a decision it becomes a craft essays says and and when that was the case in the past it seemed like craft ended up. It did seem like kraft stepped in until this off season when he could've stepped in and giving Brady the extension till Belichick do and he didn't. I'm out sometimes. Even if you're just looking for you know interviewing with another employer to get leverage sometimes you you leave it there and you're like oh I might actually WanNa go there. I think that's how this happens with what I've been saying the chargers maybe I've had the wrong. AFC West team. The Vegas stuff's really intriguing freeing especially if GRUDEN's not in on Derek Carr I'm out on Brady being with the pats next year thing you'll be somewhere else with a bunch more weapons and then we'll say those guys stink as well because we're not allowed to. Aw I think it'd be fun to see him somewhere else often. Finally for the first time since two thousand ten the Patriots did not play in the conference championship game. This weekend. More time for Tom Brady. Who set to become a free agent and while he help the Patriots when six super bowls his future with the team is up in the air? Listen to a brady and to say when asked if it's a realistic possibility that he'd play for another team. I'm I'm open-minded about the process. And you know at the same time You know I love playing football and I want to continue to play do a great job job so I'm looking forward to what's ahead. Whatever the future may bring all abrasive with open arms I could? He thinks starting to look more and more like Brady will not be with the Patriots next year sorting out looking less likely th there if you are holding on to hope and I I don't Wanna act act like there's no hope but holding onto the hope. Tom Brady goes back to New England. There hasn't been a single thing that has happened since the end of the season. That has been reassuring. It's only been bad news. How about other news moving out of the House in Massachusetts a little bit cleaning out fully cleaning out a suite at Gillette not great showing back the UFC fight and hanging out with an owner another football team or at least saying hello not ideal that comment right? They're open minded. Is it about it not great the report that he's embarrassed by his salary. which by the way I'd love to if if that's accurate who's causing his embarrassment is Giselle like like hey I broke boy? twenty-three million in the year two thousand eight Gimme a I mean so whatever it is there there are more and more signs that Brady is actually entertaining his options. But we knew Danny. He wanted to do that when before. We're the year when they wouldn't give him the contract extension. They would only give him the raise. He also asked for and was granted that they put in the contract. You can't franchise tag me. You don't listen. You don't ask for pre-nuptial agreement unless there's some well. Maybe I might need it. You don't say to your team. I don't want you to have the right to franchise tag me unless you think I might go somewhere else so to me. Yeah signs continue to point to the fact that Brady is gonNA play next year but in a different uniform. We've argued you and I've argued did before. About how guys handle themselves with the press right I think Brady gave you the perfect response there because negotiation wise. It's really smart because he puts the Patriots in a spot where they're saying. Oh there's an ounce of doubt like you're talking about but also you don't want to lose the fans of New England because they adore you at least the ones that are Burn Jersey has has a bad year but for the most part they adore so he doesn't Wanna bail on them so he ended up perfectly. I wish you could hear an unfiltered Brady bleep. This or hey I do wanna see see what's out there like. What is he talking about? Mark Davis because I guarantee you. It's not hair options hairstyle options. What they're going to go with? But I would be curious to know what he's thinking behind the scenes but ultimately ultimately when it all settles. I think he's going back to the Patriots. When do you think Tom Brady could still command in a league? paycheck an elite style type of paycheck. It and another team. Yes in a in a league where Nick foles gets more than twenty million Brady can at least get twenty five and I do think for Tom. People people need to recognize this part of it. The it is important to him that he make it to age forty five. That is playing that Eddie continues to play in big games because his post career set up is all about Sandra going into coaching. So I'm not going into television. It's about the whole TB twelve lifestyle and he wants that he will be the case. Study of if you follow my method. Did you can play longer than anyone ever not just for athletes but also for just regular people that want to continue planning their weakened basketball leagues or whatever it is and so the math for Brady is also going to be what franchise is going to give me the best opportunity to show that I. I am still good. Not just not just win games because it's not just play the way. The Patriots did this year were he was a supporting actor where he can be more more front and center. I believe that matters to what he's trying to accomplish when he's accomplished everything else Danny because he knows what he wants to post career and he is told the whole world. At least until I'm forty five. Which means three more? How many people do you think? Believed him when he said that outside of him. 'cause thank everybody was like drew. BREES is centered as well and I think it did it seem laughable and now that you're approaching where it looks more likely than not like. Oh maybe this guy is onto something. But I would say his company but he's going to be fine regardless because he's already sustained a level of success post forty that we've ever seen in the game before so but I do i. I think it's fascinating though as far would you like we had Manzini on here. We're asking him and he said I think it'd be awful. I think it'd be fun to watch him. Play somewhere else to see that challenge because Brady are always linked together and there there is ego involved here. I think both of them are a little bit curious about. Hey could I do it without him and maybe that comes into play but again it feels sort of like Alex Guerrero controversy whereas like hey this dynasty is ending now and it's going to be separated ultimately they check their egos at the door because they realized our best chance to win another super bowl is together and he doesn't WanNa be what. What Peyton wasn't that last year when he won the Super Bowl just sort of like you said a piece that just stick saying while everything else I don't think we could get him being a factor or or him picking up another? I think he wants to see what it would be like to play with. Elite weapons again and the Patriots are not going to be able to retool enough enough to where they have anything close to for example. What the chargers have in Mike Williams Keenan Allen Hunter Honoring Austin cler and so I think that is fascinating and intriguing? Go to bed with us from day. One of this incredible season twenty weeks two hundred and fifty six regular season Games ten playoff games and here we are with Super Bowl. Fifty four officially say chiefs and niners. I have to ask. Did you think you'd get to a point where you look nick into his beautiful eyes and say you were right my friend you were right all along okay. Well here's in the real domain committed. I I think if you pick something over and the whole thing. I'm not letting you tear me down at some point. I'm wearing my Kansas City. Monarchs socks I feel feel great today. I'm not going to let you steal any also. Tom Brady would retire for talk. Your employers I was as I I who are down to the last two team standing the forty niners and chiefs. Who is the better team heading to the super bowl okay so collectively actively I like the forty niners better and I think that they they tend to make less mistakes? I it seems to me that there's less self inflicted wounds. I love the chemistry that they've built. I think they have a underdog mentality. You've heard it throughout the courses and maybe it's not underdog but they don't like the the fact that nobody's really appreciated what they've done even late in the season. When when they had the success they had already had the success that they had now all that being said? I'm GonNa go with the better quarterback I'm going with with Patrick. I think at the end of the day. He's going to be able to take care. But if you're doing a tale of the tape just to follow up the vast majority in your mind of check marks would be on the niners side if thanks but the big check mark for offensively. Well the biggest check more for we the mistakes like I. It's I. I really struggle with these two playoff games where you're spotting teams that many points where you've had the we have that many Airs and I think at some point your luck runs out now offensively. I I really like what Kansas City can do. Obviously and I really liked the A quarterback. It's the mistakes that concern me more than anything I gotta take. I'm curious to see what you think of this. I think the chiefs are about to go on a golden state warrior like run. I think they're very similar to the Golden State Warriors. They've got a young superstar. The Way Steph Curry was burst on the scene. The Way Patrick Mahomes is there a credibly ably amazing offensive team. But they're better defensively than you think but I don't think people give the chiefs enough credit through a majority of the warriors run. You've you've got miscues like they're a team that the warriors they are having so much fun in their embarrassing people that are like you know. We'll figure it out it'll be fine. I think they're about to go on a similar type of road. I think they could see multiple championships with this group. As long as it stays intact with. Tyree Kill Travis Kelsey with Patrick Mahomes and with Andy Reid as that experience that comes in there and the offense of mind combined with these weapons. It's got written on it. Listen I would agree with you win. Tirelessly if the NFL players were like the NBA playoffs where it set up to where the better team almost always wins. Because you have. It's not a one game sample because it's one game. Sampled doing what the Patriots did over twenty years. It's white seems impossible. It's why it's more impressive than what the Spurs did over the same timeframe even even though it's six championships two five. There's the the spurs had a similar winning percentage like. Oh yeah because the luck comes into play less in football earn less than basketball than in football now to the specific game. I don't know who the right pick is. I Know My heart tells me to pick. Obviously I won't be rooting waiting for but if I do tale of the tape. Are you going to sell right so curious. The niners has a tease uh-huh jokes. The niners are to me better in every area except for quarterback can wide receivers tied in to push the two best tight end in football. The chiefs have a good offensive line. niners having great offense of line the niners have the best defensive front in the League. They have an all pro at corner. Even if they're secondary I think there's chiefs strength of their defense right there secondary building the niners might be better and coaching. And it's real close. I think Andy's excellent I think I'll Shanahan is as good of an offense of mind is Andy. Reid is and you take into account okay. So Andy's so great coming off a bye but he's also not right and whether by or not at the final moments of halves and games and does that even ratchet watch it up when it's the tied for the biggest game he's ever coached and maybe even bigger than his previous super bowl because that was eighteen years ago. Fifteen years ago and Shanahan is so great all throughout I know he had the obviously twenty three moment in the Super Bowl as the coordinator feel like he's learned from that. The niners are clearly the most dangerous team team on that side of the bracket. I was rooting for the packers yesterday. Not only because I wanna see Rogers homes but also because I thought the chiefs had he decided edge over the packers I. I don't think they have decided to edge over the niners and you and I were talking about off the air coaching you alluded to was. US me like he's frustrating. Watching the self inflicted wounds wounds and I said listen. I've been watching the chief team forever. But the last few years he's got baked into it they're going to have a bad off sides. They're going to have a defensive holding on third and seventeen. You say that you say that but less hair. What cost him the Super Bowl? GR- no cost and the the super bowl and this year are. Are we going to be talking next next year. Where you say? Oh he member. You've gotTa Bake that in when they lost the Super Bowl because of that mistake and we're gonna how long are we can keep these. I'm not I'm not saying it's justification I'm just saying the way that I acquit myself to watch the games like I know what I'm surprised when it doesn't happen. The concern is if you get down double digits to this team. It's so different like ten points down to the titans felt scarier than twenty-four down to Houston and seven down to San Francisco. Will we'll fill scarier than ten down to the titans because of the they have just shown you the best way for them to lose Jimmy Garoppolo making mistakes and they can win in a conference championship game with with anyone playing quarterback because even with respect to Jimmy. Anyone could have done what he was asked to do yesterday. Anyone that's in the legal ninety five quarterbacks and they'd been in the exact same position we're going to have two weeks to talk about this matchup right but I do think it's going to be that the age old conversation than the debate is will what wins championships. Would you want to have. Great offense which the Chiefs Avenue want great defense which the forty niners at best in the NFL would say on both sides of the ball. Which one would you rather have? I do think the game has changed to where it used to be defense. Every time you'd WanNa Take the defense. I think the rules benefit offense. I think the quarterback play is magnified in today's game and that clearly favors the chiefs. I respect what Callahan handed so much today. In the sense that he did not avoid or he did not come off and running game and only through the ball Asia That to me takes amazing discipline and I know those ones are hitting but you still have that inherent natural need. WanNa throw the ball especially if you're an offensive minded. Guys is impressed impressed that he did that just real quick. I committed to you with you having no risk whatsoever that if the titans beat the chiefs again a Derrick Henry Tattoo if the chiefs win the superbowl patrimonial. Patrick is the soup. MVP both things happen. You'll get a patrick mahomes to at least a fifteen somewhere. No I wouldn't get a pattern to if they won the next fifteen report the dog. Thank you for listening to the first things first. PODCAST remember. Leave us a review and tell us what you think. Subscribe drive to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on F s one Monday through Friday. Six Thirty A._M. Easter.

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NFL Weekend Wrap, Ty Lue Fired, 50 Cent vs Ja Rule and More

"And now Jalen and Jacoby on ESPN. Yup. Stupid. Jailing? Fanie row. What updo? The cool. Check gin sin stage on the Mike putting it on wax. It's the new. Jalen and Jacoby. What do we do? We get people. So much on the show today. A full Sunday of NFL great night game. Great afternoon game between the Packers. And the Rams a lot of MBA topics. Tie Luga fired. He's not hired you ever think about when you're out of here. That's just me. In the background. You can hear the sounds. Furred? I was in the garden last night. No Friday night to watch the warriors beat the Knicks closer game that looked like though to the four it was closed until the fourth quarters. It was a good experience being they're giving the home crowd summit here about representing are fine program. Thank you sides. Besides Kevin Durant. I wanted to ovation but he got introduced to be bigger. So then after the game, they're happy. They're win in the business locker room getting ice. And they played this song turned up little bit ridge. The remix of jobs and south to sway the remix guy who created this. Yes. And this is in response to Josh Mel saying that it was a little rude of Draymond to make that face the root of him to make that face. When he was singing the national anthem. That's her better half. I think they're broke up. I don't I don't stay up with with all of the broker think. They're divorced him for riding for his ex no doubt that every does that. So you can be mean if you're funny where do you find this? Post game. They were getting ice on her knees. They were decompressing after a long night. No harm. No foul. Those hilarious. Yeah. No. I thought it was hilarious. And the best part is Josh Imelda's took the l you know, what? I mean, he went on Twitter up don't mess with the champs. He he said something like that. You're to go down there. Just let them cook. Oh, so good. This song might chart. It really might just got a black piece out. Now. This is good for Furby. What did you feel about her in dish in of the national anthem? When you first heard it. It was excellent. You know what I mean? I was I was appreciate people taking approaches. Innovative. Reggie loved it. Ready? Still plays in everywhere. That was big on Friday night being in the guard. I really expected more. Kevin Durant stuff going on. You know what I mean? Besides him taken over in the fourth quarter. I thought there'd be more signs and more energy and more. Let's get K D the guard the Lakers Dwight Howard. Didn't work out billboards and sideshows I think New York has one of the most sophisticated fan basis in sports, and I understand when the Brian came knows you times there was the propensity to him. I think they learned from that. And so you allow the process to play itself out at handy yourself with some steam and yourself with some class actually root for your team because the players do pay for and it was a good game through through three quarters. I will problems. Don't love the sweet experience at a friend who works for a law firm Kosta, the sweet it was just like, you know, I like to be most people like to be in the crowd. You know, seeing the chance and being in the in the crowd. I like both when I thought nice now here, here's the difference. Here. Here's your famous though, you're gigantic famous person. Here's the clear distinction. It depends on how many people. If you're with one or two people, then obviously you can be in the seat try to get your best seat do like that. But if you were like five or six people is best to be in a suite. You can enjoy one. It's nice to mingle. Yeah. Mingling opportunity. They also give you bottles of liquor, and you can pour your own drinks. That's I can't be trusted that congressman love that love trust with that kind of response that I really can't. I really can't fourth quarter. I don't remember every detail. But do remember Kevin Durant for sure he wouldn't all he wears shot up Nerlens Noel, I tried to tell you deeper in the box score. I just give Michelle you guys. I start twenty points nine fourteen fifteen rebounds, four steals a block. Let me go back to something. I said on this fine program set it on get up to okay. He's going to be a productive player for them. The mass try to give him a seventy million dollar contract. He didn't sign the contract. So they basically benched him buried them. That's what happened, of course. And so now he's landed in. Okay. See where upfront they have all of these long angular players like. Yeah. Exactly. And so now he's going to be able to catch lobs. He's going to be a finisher around hoop? He's a lefty he's gonna block shots. He's going to get steals. Like his game. He's going to be really good for them. Give you. I can't believe it. That Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. Hello until we get there. Get there. I'll get there. Now. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button? Do what's this button? Do button. This. Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Jalen rose, the most hyped weakened of NFL Sunday lived up to it. I was kicking kids out of the bedroom. All afternoon keeping an eye on this game. It was fun. It was back and forth. Girly on the backfield scoring a touchdown. If felt like the Packers were always catching up eventually did catch up and take the lead on this past from Rodgers. They have a one point lead. The Rams comedown kick this field goal. The Rams have to look at the clock. Two minutes and five seconds on the clock time takes the ball. He made he made three mistakes on this play. I taking the ball in the end zone in the first place. Just ridiculous. Second fumbling the ball and third robbing the world of an Aaron Rodgers two minute drill. Trying to get a field goal. I wanted that to happen so bad every single person watching that game was so excited for Aaron Rodgers to have the opportunity one time out the two minute warning. To get not even that far down the field. Just to give Crosby a chance to kick a field goal. We was disappointed as I was with time coming to absolutely. And that's the theater that we were looking for with the with these two teams being matched up. The Rams clearly are undefeated. I think them in the saints have distinguished themselves. The best teams in the NFC when you have Aaron Rodgers you say, maybe they have punchers chance. Oh, yeah. A lot of times. I think as fans we underestimate the talent that's on Green Bay's roster. So many times we say Aaron Rodgers doesn't have hill. Jones is a good young. Yes. He is this feature. That's all seventeen people carry the ball for them yesterday that that's all they have to do Adams is a really good player. Ob is getting older. He still could play Montgomery. Even though we fumbled. Is a terrific player. So ha ha Clinton Dix has been one of the best safeties in the entire league. So far this year. So I was looking forward to seeing if Aaron Rodgers could lead his team. On a game winning drive type of thing. But that's why they're three phases to the game. And the Rams did trust. There's because how many people were watching the game watching the clock watching a game in watching the clock. They get the ball back to air Rajaa. I know with two minutes five seconds of Arctic at one time out. All they have those five seconds. That's basically another time out. He can throw to the middle of the field twice. It was just so disappointing that he did. But also here, here's what makes the blunder even worse. First and foremost caught it in his own tool. Five you take a knee? I know y'all can run a play. And then one time throw to the middle of the field or whatever costs, you know, time. That's number one number two running it out. He didn't get as far as he would have gotten had. He taken a neat. Yes. You're going to run it out. How about you took the ball close of your body? And lastly, you know, the coast told him not to run it. Yes. When you do because they happens as a player coach Ron drop a play. You may not run it to the tea, but you got to execute. And you gotta finish. Khaindrava football. You know, what the coach might not have told them for companies one. It's McCarthy too. Because it's such a veteran player. It's like, obviously like, obviously, a rookie making a dollar our state. Oh, no, no, no, no Newnan in the new. I guarantee you somebody in that organization when they get back to practice on Tuesday is going to sit at a podium and distinctly let the world know that we told him to keep it in the end zone. And he's going to have to explain why he took who saw avenue. Explain why you could ask me the question about I'm not giving you can news. I'm giving it to you right now. Well, you mentioned the saints being the second best team in the NFC. They certainly looked the class of the NFC as they played the Vikings. It wasn't as close as the final score would indicate went back and forth. You had cousins in feeling feeling. Fumbled the ball early to give the saints the ball. There's a couple of big turnovers from the saints on this one. Specially we had the pick six when they're trying to come back Kamar jumping over the pie. How to put that in Kamara? Look so good yesterday. Jalen, and then there's this cousins trying to make something happen down by one score in the third corps. Put himself down by fourteen. Now, here's my question for you. You mentioned the Rams and the saints being the best teams in the NFC. Well, guess who plays each other next week the Rams and the saints that is going to be a game in New Orleans. I'm gonna say now saints win the game. Then expect this question I roller with the saints at home. I think so too because you playing in that dome. It's going to be a track meet literally. But hey, Aaron Donald is. So very good. Yeah. It was great to see Dhamma Kosugi productive. And so like those are the teams but for the Vikings. I gotta make sure I stress Kirk cousins is their problem. No. Because the last time I checked, you know, who the best wide receiver dual in the league is the linen did. And I know a lot of people gonna be like let me scrambling right now, you can try to receiver that each, but you cannot find a better fit. Yeah. Hock is doesn't have the person next to him Julio. Maybe some new maybe really, you know, Dale doesn't have the person next to him. So that's legitimate on the offense. I think down the cook is going to help a lot, but they fix your defense. They got Griffin back with the captain at our defense was that was a personal issues. But that side of the football has to step up a Minnesota. If they're going to win the division, which I think they still will question Jalen where oh me. Here's what's happening. Patrick mo. He makes just incredible performances over three hundred yards four touchdowns their pedestrian. Now. We almost expect him and this is against the Broncos who don't have the defense they used to have. But they have had to look it up. Did some research that the eleventh best defense against the past Jalen, and he's has just look what he does like he's just doing this over and over and over. He is now in some rare air when it comes to stats he's like through the first eight games. No one has performed as he has not just like, oh someone in their first second season, starting whatever. It's only players like breeze and manning and Brady Manning's done twice. Brady's done. At once that put these numbers he's putting himself in the same. Classes hall of famers, and this is not the three game sample size. This is a half of a season. Now when I talk about the cheese. I gotta make sure I'll start with the evil genius respectfully Andy Reid because talking about a guy is plant chess when everybody else plant checkers look at the offense. Of weapons that they have. Okay, Kareem hunt. You just saw leap over a guy score. Touchdown. He jumped over the league in rushing last year. They signed Sammy Watkins and soil. Sammy Watkins got us deal. Everybody was old Chapelle Dale Monday gay Sammy Watkins. Yeah. Two touchdowns yesterday. Kelsey still the best hide in football. Tyreek hill still explosive as they get in the game. So for him to be able to amass this level of talent all at once peak prime years is truly impressive or defense is going to continue to get better. It's it's fascinating to watch Mahomes mature as a run threat option. Also, somebody has a pig arm. That can make all of the throws. Like there must see TV. It's crazy. He can just put up over three hundred yards and four touchdowns and us not talk about it until we're like twenty five minutes into the show that big a deal anymore, and he's basically a rookie like he played. We started one game last year the list of people that have had the number of touchdowns that he's has at this point of the season paint. Manny Tom Brady because guess what they went onto when MVP pal. Patrick Holmes is Myers right here. Starting Andy reselected a guy that is likely on pace to win MVP his first season under center, and that's letting Alex Smith goal. I know a quality starting bad last year. They didn't need to make changes. This is this is such an amazing season for the chiefs. It's going to be very interesting to see them play the patriots in the AFC championship game. I cannot wait. The Bengals beating the buccaneers. But let's be honest. This game is not about the Bengals. No this game is about Ryan fits magic. James Wissant throws four interceptions. It's magical game that look Mike Evans wide open. Then the Bengals have this fits magic is trying to blow the field goal. That's he's trying to everything they Bengals end up winning the game thirty seven to thirty four Jalen rose. What do you think about the quarterback can traverse city in south Florida? This is a perfect example of why you don't want the coach to be the general manager, which does not take place in this case, here's why because they have two different interests the interests of the general managers going to be the look for the long term viability of the team, which means if we took James Winston number one overall we want to have them up there. But to coach trying to win today you call one guy by government. You caught another guy by nickname fits match to that. They should know who should who's been playing better who should be out there. This is going to be a mess going forward. I'll shine Jackson gets traded to Houston. Do you? Remember when we said that we watch every game on Sunday. I'm not watching this too early in the morning in London. We had the eagles beating the Jaguars when you take away from this one. I was watching his game really early in the thing. I took away from it is Linda for net is sorely missed eighteen yards rushing for the Jaguars. Okay. And how you gonna have four players. Issue over the Bill priding yell the club paying the Bill in London with these. I wanna hear the explanation for this one. I'm here this around forty five thousand American bucks. Shipping campaigning gone wrong. There was definitely some ladies ordering stuff at their table. There's definitely some lady. It's definitely some lady stuff. You will be Seattle disciplined to talk about that for ten minutes. We gotta move on this happy. Jalen ramsey. Gotta NSF. Happy jails that trouble getting trouble. The Panthers beat up on the ravens and impressive Cam performance. Biggest takeaway from this is the ravens were on a historical pace as it related to second other teams quarterbacks. Cam Newton didn't get sacked at all just think about that. For a second. He plays in the pocket runs Alonso. Campbell's allow that says extends plays put himself in a position to get his shots north Turner whose helps camps decision making and his accuracy dumping it down McCaffrey plan. Go football. Next. The Steelers beat up on the Browns, Jalen rose. What do you think? Takeaway from this. Besides the fact and Tony Brown had two touchdowns is that the clock is ticking for Hugh in Cleveland, but I'm not sure if they're willing to pay a a head coach that's always some people say change the coast change because change codes are they willing to invest in. Sure, that's one number two. While of course, you welcome lady. I'm Bill to come back about James, Connor. This is his job James CONNER looks good. And so the thing is, you know, he's gonna be there next year so levian in. If he does retire, you're not going to give him one hundred percent of Carey's, even when he does return. This was not gonna make you. If you had a sound the represents how the lines played against the Seahawks. But would that sound? What would it be? This play God Dixon. They've tried to run out of the end zone and take the safety. Jalen, they weren't even trying to gain yards. These do it. I guess I'll just run the ball. Why not? And he got the first down is that is just Representative of the lines performance on this day. Say. Blinds. Don't look that. Good. Jalen, Russell Wilson. Did it was all it was all good as a couple of weeks ago when they beat the patriots, but not anymore. No seahawks. Have a running game. Non Carson moving on in a battle of the week. And if see east the Redskins the class of the division beat up on the giants, which think about the Redskins they legitimate. I need is. I hope I'm pronouncing his name right going to give him props yet, two and a half sex. He's playing really well not mad at debt shots. Alex. Smith who continues out fine ways to win. They'd you. Made you. Peterson on it. Forty nine yards out running people swear injure had two picks up and shall to all day. Like, you just said at this point of his career. None of us can say that we felt like he had is much left as he does. Jay grooten did a really good job of not only using him as a runner, but as a receiver he only caught a six count on touchdown pass of his career. How about that forgot his going to the hall of fame in a game that didn't pay much tension to colts beat the raiders, you know, what stood out to be in this game with colts like the Seahawks. Have a franchise quarterback at a search for running. A they had one yesterday motor backs best friend. Yup. Fantasy owners max performance. And also they did a good job of solidifying their office of lying to protect Andrew luck at three touchdown passes. Which southern the Cavaliers should be doing. Moving on the bears beat up on the jets. But all that matters is this. Mitchell Trubisky showed up at the game dressed as Mike. Dick jets. When I saw that. I would just go home. He got the sweater vest and the sunglasses. Oh, we're going home. We're just not the plane. We're going home. There's no way we're gonna win Mitra Bisky dressed up as Mike Ditka. It was a fun. Look they were playing without Khalil Mack. It just shows. How far the jets need to grow as a football team. Yes. They found a quarterback in Dalton. But a lot of their darnold. I'm sorry. But a lot of weaknesses were exposed and continue to be weak out the week by that football team. And finally the cardinals played the forty Niners in a very sad game featured some great plays by Larry FitzGerald. Yes. And you know around going with this because I talked about both of these guys. I was watching the game when I was like feel bad for fits. I do to not feel bad for Sherm. Those two guys I was happy to see fits over one hundred catcher TD over defenders to Sherman not only has seven tackles. But he had a sack too. I wasn't mad at that. At all FitzGerald is. He's just so good. I wanted to play next year. I wanna play forever. Those guys are on contending teams. I don't see it happening. Upstart has revolutionized how we borrow money by going beyond the traditional FICO score to offer personal loans taking account factors like job, experience and education. We determine your interest rate. Here's what it is. It's quick and easy checking your upstart rate is free. It has no effect on your credit score. Again, no effect on your credit score. You check your upstart rate and just two minutes and find out if you're approved. Here's the thing. 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But there's something happening with the words this season that we must discuss, and it is the absolute dominance of Steph curry in K D what they are doing is just unfathomable on Friday night. It was Kevin Durant. Taking over against the Knicks. And then on Sunday there was this just Durant and Steph scoring and scoring and scoring step is Hadley five threes and four hundred straight games. It's just incredible. What they are doing together. Steph curry is averaging thirty three point nine points a game. Kevin Durant is averaging thirty point three points a game. Is this going to continue with these two? I think it's going to continue pretty much. I talked about the fact that Steph was going to league on notice this year third year plan with K D they want a couple of. Ships. He's dealt with injuries a couple of times in the past. And he remembers the year that he was unanimous MVP, and he understands that in order for them to not only continue to reach their goals, but for him to continue to have a level of excellence in the game is he wants to get back to plan at that level while katie's on rust, not this was a unique marriage because it was the first time to MVP's row in the same team at the same time and they both under third. So it took a little time to figure out and you try to defer make them feel comfortable things like that. But as they continue to add to the star lineup deteriorated the bench. So they're going to need at productivity Klay still shop is still shooting and playing well also plays clay's not shooting that well right now from three, but but here, but here's the thing. I wanna make sure I stress what makes this work is both of these guys usually your best player needs to ball. They don't need the ball. Let me repeat that. They don't need the ball. They both come off screens. They both get initiate often. They start on the strong side they can start or no weeks. I started to top the Florida star on the side of the floor. And so now it just unlocks their entire game. But to officiant guys there's going to flirt with the more important step fifty from the floor forty from three ninety from the line is due to snipe and one thing about this duo, which is different like, Chris, Paul and heart. And there's only one basketball twain, LeBron only when basketball how are they going to make this work. It's gonna be hard to make this work. We're gonna take turns one time this year night. Then it's our night. It's not like that with this to like the way that the warriors played the fact that you made a great point that they don't need the ball the way that this team shares the ball and Steve Kerr's, the maestro at all. Like you. Do not hear about any of this. Oh, there's only one ball tonight tonight. It's going to be closed steps ninety miles gonna be katie's night. Like, they have a harmonious thing that's going on. They seem to just like make each other play better. The more one of plays better. What an engine? To that has to get knowledge. His Draymond green. If you notice a lot of shots that take place in particular when Steph relocate so they may throw it the Draymond. He maybe get get often. Rebound may do a dribble. Handoff action. The defense clearly hasn't figured out that he's not gonna shoot the ball, especially if you had the chance to give it to Steph theft. Just relocates kicks it to him in the corner. Bouma knocks it down so him being a Swiss army knife Klay still locking down on defense allows everybody still fall into their roles and function. Optimal precision worse. Steve Kerr, a great job managing their minutes, and sort of keeping one of them on the floor. And then doing all that it's doing a great job on the other side of that the Washington Wizards are quietly imploded like usually this happens liquor in the season or in the playoffs. But it is bad right now if the wizards they are one in five and last night against the clippers it was late at night, if you're on the east coast they lost but twenty eight points to the clippers and it did not look good at all for the wizards. Jalen, rose, what is happening to the wizards. Let me just say some real quick about the clippers. They're better than people think they got a lot of season vest is going to show up play har-. Lou will Tobias Harris Herrell they got Beverly like a bunch of Grizzle vets gallon Nari, and they have a great coach. So I'm not really surprised that they actually beat the wizards on their home floor in LA on the west coast trip. You know, a lifestyle things comes with that as well. But for the wizards there may off season acquisition to white Howard is in plan, but they're not Dwight Howard away from being a team. They are. No, they're not tweet. How is that gonna come in? And save this basketball. I didn't say he would save them. What I'm saying is he helped solidify their lineup for me one of the glaring things. You have to point out is and you can't judge players nowadays based on their salary, but in salary cap sports, like the NBA NFL when you dedicate resources to one player that means you're taking them away from another asset you provide. And they gave out a Puerto be contract. Yes. And so they need him to play it in all star level, and that's not half. What happened with Otto porter is their coach Brooks is literally using his name saying auto needs to play better. And you don't see that a lot in the NBA. What does that say to you that the coaches calling him out on it is true? And it goes back to what I just said we have an all-star level back. Court who has to play better. Let me say that about voltage those guys show Golden State and Steph curry shooting them down to and so I if foremost leadership and the best players have to show up in John wall and Bradley Beal next you look down Russell. I okay. Who can we rely on Uber as going to play heart? But he hasn't got the big deal auto porter somebody investing, and so when you pay him in today's game, you need him to go up against Kawai. Katie LeBron who that you're getting what that level of contra got one hundred million dollars. I believe you had six points in last night's game. I don't have the stats in front of me. So solidifying the lineup would have been to have the white Howard as the center because now just like this Minnesota Mahim e it just sends you a lot of different spots, and one of the things I wanna make sure I point out. Both of these teams. Look a lot different when the Morris twins play. Well, okay, that's Boston and Washington. Okay. Distinctly different when both of those guys because they gonna give you toughness and shot making when they're going and defense, but when they are playing, well, the Celtics and the wizards seem to be operating the best. I love the Morris twins shout out. The people of New England got what they wanted. The Boston Red Sox are World Series champions since we lasted this show that eighteen in game they had come back game. And then yesterday it was this Dame got to her Shah early in the first, and then they got to again got all. And then the best pitcher in the game. They got to him again. JD martinez. The third homerun off occur Shah. And then here's added another later in the game. Jalen rose. Yes. Indeed. This was a dominant World Series performance from the Red Sox the best team in baseball. They just performed Well Chris sale their starter finish the game. Usually I like I like the the pitcher to jump in the catcher's arms. It's using the other way around the celebrate into the night. The people of Boston are probably still celebrating at this moment. They just everything works. Well, the manager made the right decisions pitching the relievers. The bullpen the hitters everything worked well for the Red Sox and I loved die easy Red Sox fan. But you want to ask you about the other dugout you've been to the finals and lost. The dodgers have now been the World Series two years in a row and lost. Is it gonna take some time? And then they consider this success. Or is it going twice in role in losing like almost worse than going once? You know, how to gate success off a realistic expectation and for the dodgers they continue to go all in for a team. That's not only trying to make it to the World Series. But to actually capture and based on their goals, they came up short. So in theory. This would not be considered a success for what they hope to get accomplished. Now. Of course, it definitely means something to make it to the World Series. And you brought up my playing background as an example when we went as freshmen to the national championship that was considered a success course, nobody saw comment. We were six e we started five freshman. Everything was new when we come back sophomores, and we ranked in the top five, and then we get to the championship in lose. That's a failure and base. It also who you lose to a freshman year. We lost the one in a greatest teams of all time. Yup. Just beaten. Vegas some guys idolize year before Carolina we had just beat them during Christmas. We have find a way to get it done. So for the dodgers they're going to now. Go back to the drawing board with two major decisions one. Do you bring back the manager? Who's got a lot of criticism and or two they gotta wait and see what's going to happen with Kerr show. Believe already supported Roberts already feel like we're good and Kershaw can opt out in the next three days. So it's kind of on him tells me that he will often and one of the things about this. That was so nice. It's like you like you mentioned the Red Sox had the best record in the major leagues. So it's not surprised they won the World Series. Even though it doesn't always work out that way, but there's a sense of relief. And no one was more relieved than Red Sox starter David price who was so publicly. Oh intent the media just kept telling the number ten the postseason tennis last posted. He didn't have postseason sex success lately when he had early in his career and the relief in the sound of this man's voice. I love this sound, right. Here. That's David price after the game hold all the cards now that feel so good. So. I feel so good. I can't I can't tell you how good a feel to. To hold that Trump card, and you guys have had it for a long time. You've played that card. Extremely well. But you don't have it anymore. You do that feels really good. This is a game. We get to play. It's a it's a relationship that you make you know while you do this while you play this game. As what makes his game special two things, you know, Madonna fan. I'm also a cry easy, man. So I'll see tears I love to see Megan emotional. But what does he I hold all the cards? Now, I hold all the cars. He's talking to the media about the media like dig us behind the curtain on what he's thinking. I like that you alluded to and you say postseason success accidentally said not having post-season six which may happen. Will happen. I appreciate him articulating that point because so many athletes act like they ignore the noise. That's false. Okay. You understand what's being said around you because you're living at twenty four seven three sixty five whether it's all social media, whether it's television outlet, whether it's true, and or whether it's fossil and it burns when it's true Ken lot Owen. Tin the numbers of for it self. Now, here's what I want people to understand. This is what separates those to actually get a chance to play in the big leagues. Get a chance to play an NFL get a chance to play an NBA is that other than your talent hard work. And you you ability is your opportunity to persevere what's her bullets have so many times individuals crumble, he didn't at the biggest moment. Now, you have to believe in yourself had to have a team believe in you. And then you have to get to the point where you can. Actually persevere and he did it a couple of games throughout this run. After him to be that guy that was out there on the mound during a time where they were going to be able to close out the World Series had to be ultimately gratified. Peers got the P I would have definitely given it to David price. But that's because you know, I'm a motion, you know. But that's just me moving on some great news Red Sox fans some bad news for Tyler over the weekend. Tyler was relieved of his duties as head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers, they went to the finals. How many years in a row four three? I wanna say four but three with Todd Lou and tie. Loose started. Owen six not a great start to the season for the Cavs. But expectations were pretty low considering they lost the best player in the game. Jalen rose, you think it was smart for them to relieve Tyler of his head coach. I'm just happy got his brand already. And the reason why made that distinction is there were periods throughout his coaching tenure. When you're not only leading team, but it has the best player in the game on LeBron James and icon figure people always going to undermine your role when your team wins. They're going to give the credit to the best player. And when your team struggles ain't gonna put the blame on you. That was always a push pull that he was going to have to deal with so with LeBron gone. The biggest thing that people unto estimate about him leaving they got nothing in return. Yeah. The everybody keep forgetting the fact that you now lose the Brian Jays. And they got zero compensation in return. So you give Kevin love max deal. But you still stuck with a lot of contracts. Jared Smith comes to mind, Tristan Thompson comes to mind, and you now need those guys to be NBA. Veterans contributors, not just necessarily ov- layers and win that does not happen. Somebody has to be a fall guy for team Owen six in theory. And I don't speak for Tyler who I think he did a really good job with that team. Yeah. I think he deserves it deserves another opportunity. So from that sense. I actually feel like they did him a favor because now he has time to reassess the league actually put himself in position to get another gig that I think he's gonna deserve into a really good job is because if they weren't if they're not gonna keep it, right? If they're going to say oh Tyler this season. And then we're gonna get rid of him. Get some. In the offseason. They actually did kind of do a favorite because he's getting his money. So he gets paid. He doesn't have to sort of like slog through this whole regular season of underperforming. Cavaliers kinda fly all over the place and work this this job that feels like a dead end job. And Dan Gilbert shown, he got money to burn coaches because Mike Brown's probably still getting paid fire David Blatt after they made it to the finals as you Mitch and now t Lewis, well, so it's going to be interesting to see what direction they go in moving for if Larry drew doesn't keep the job fulltime. Larry, wait. You want me to where we got negotiates? He's been announced. But he hasn't put like he has fully fully announced in vet share with us. Alary no extension. Nothing. That's great for me opportunity thinking so much. But I don't know if that's great. But this is a perfect place for me to say say, I always as a player have to put some responsibility on the people that op there wearing shorts and Jim shoes that are competing. It is so easy for fans and media, you see it what the dodgers and their critics going to point to the managerial decisions same here would loop. But at some point when you look at the dodgers roster to meeting loss to a better team. But also you want to got to perform unique Clayton Kershaw you start. Yup. In the postseason you need. Kevin love to be all-star. You need him to go to a number one option. So the numbers that you're seeing from the best players in the east. That's what he's supposed to be giving them. And what he's not doing it startled six. Of course. Well, there was some reaction from some Kerr. Current and former Cleveland Cavaliers on social we start as everything does with LeBron James to the memories and more importantly, our partnership bringing a championship to Cleveland and JR Smith. Thanks him as well with the old palm on the face emoji. How do you think it feels if you're Kevin love Jerry Smith Tristan Thompson to have gone from locker room? Well, it's two way to look at it. Because a couple of the guys that you just said are actually still playing. So if y'all wanna to keep his job ball, don't I g me don't sweet to score for me. Yeah. That that's how you can show me love. Well, Kevin love sidelined for month. We just found out with an injury moving on to news. The matt. Jalen rose. This is very important. And this goes back over a decade. Fifty cent job rule always going back and forth been going back and forth. Thrift fifty cent reacting to some news that JAL recently had to cancel a concert in Syracuse fifty cents said he bought two hundred quote front row tickets to a concert in Arlington, Texas. So he could leave them empty and then posted vis on social media just him. I'm self in the front row of a concert, supposedly fifty cent. That's photo shopped. But here's the thing. Jalen rose. We'd lost Jalen and Jacoby investigation. He says he bought the monk groupon. You can only buy two tickets at a time on groupon. He said he brought front row tickets. It's a standing room only event. Do you think he bought a hundred pairs of tickets in the front row to a standing room only event or he's trolling? I think. This beef because this this qualifies that has gone on as you mentioned for over a decade is so far so personal that I wouldn't be surprised if he did a little bit of both if he could do something to sabotage gyro and the other way around they both have been doing it. Consistently says a funny one I wouldn't put it past fifty cent to just get some of the details wrong or maybe exaggerate a little bit. But I really do think that he gave his credit card information to somebody not himself. It's by up a bunch of these tickets, no doubt. And that's one of the things that like if you're going to know j- artist is have them standing on a stage and looking into a crowd of empty seats. We've all been to those shows we've all seen those shows really can't be fun. Like, we all magin the sold out arenas. But you know, those shows where like actually waiting for the headliner you're there, and the crowd's not really, they're the shuffling. They don't know your songs, they're not paying attention. They're on their phones. That was my tire stand up career moving. A gentleman was on his way to a football game celebrating the Carolina Panthers. And this is what he decided to bring in a backpack. He's got about seven pieces of fried chicken in a back pack. Jalen rose saw over boss move, B Y O C this. There's question false move. I mean, I've a lot of questions like how many have you seen me transport chicken? I see you are you are known for chicken transport, chicken, even across transported chicken. We have to be perfect. I believe in his own chicken. Like, he must really be really be like only, my chicken is the only acceptable ticket. Not only that but your auction is something over price, and you don't even hop though. But here's the the soft move some hot sauce in that bag all move see-through backpack. We'll just wants to get in. I don't know. What that is. He if I can. I wanna see some hot sauce something that you coming for longtime has finally happened. Huge. Accent is no longer the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. What does that tell you about referred to this earlier? It's going to be interesting to see if they are going to dedicate the necessary resources that actually takes to get a quality coach one of the things that I think it's under estimated about their situation is not only have they been a bad football team based on a product you seen on the field. I don't know that they're necessarily willing to invest in a head coach to turn the situation around. Well, we'll find out soon. Head coach definitely still has their job Oklahoma state university. Coach Mike Gundy, his provided us with some legendary south from the polio. And the sound he made on the podium. A- may already is even better when he was asked about social criticism where from where. From where? Twitter radio. Sass about Twitter. Platform for people that are sitting home trawling, John employment. Check sent in front of a keyboard. Couple things he didn't just go. He went back to the twice which I love by points out. Jalen rose. Why people with unemployment checks? You know what I mean? It's like it. Looks people need employment checks to get by in between jobs or whatever come on my gun to go after the Twitter people, but he'll go after the unemployed people. Absolutely also like none of us are immune to criticism. It just comes with the territory and just because you as a head coach are removed, and you're going to dismiss an ignore that it happens you shouldn't because your players are in the age where it's really prevalent. So I would think the goal should be to actually educate them on how to use it and how to block it out. And you know, what you're onto something you at the right way to educate them when you see someone criticizing Twitter, you should consider it wait appropriately taken into account. But you're. Attitude. You probably be. That's really what it should be. I was listening to him talk. I'm showing my age. He's he could be the he sing the theme song of the dukes of hazzard yet. The good old boy, he's he's got a little twin. I would play from my Cundy. I love it. I love it. He rides for his guys. I'm a man, I'm forty. Where's chris? He kind of got the reporter to like, you know, Twitter. Right. But then the reporter guy what he wanted a great, son. He was going back and forth with what what the coach Russell Westbrook is known for wearing outfits and fashion forward, and sort of being an innovator in influence in the fashion world, so he did this fashion shoot with German magazine that he didn't think would see us over here in America. But the backgrounds the clothes that Elvis kissing somebody on a shirt, that's kind of a fleece not mad at that one. But the rogue at the basketball world that look at the socks and no shoes. What what what is happening here or things for worse was that he giving them checks. Russell you're gonna wear. These socks are gonna match this shirt underneath a sweater vest is like all right, whatever like some clothing sponsor has some relationship with the magazine look at the they're gonna get Russ to take the pitchers for archiving in promotion. Keep getting them checks. Do you have any of these glamour shot backgrounds in your past? Draft day. Jaylen up some bad news, not bad, meaning bad, meaning good meeting. We got Ambos wit. We did random up. We did that astray. We did. They told you bring you to America. And you didn't realize what was going to have you do guy here. No. That's not. They pulled us. They got us. And I got an you know, what I just wanna celebrate the people that got us. That wasn't Justin Bieber. That was a team of people concocting a scheme. To make it look they flew in a Justin Bieber look alike to LA. But here's what I want to say about this. It was a really smart ploy because they didn't say like, oh, we're gonna have this Justin Bieber lookalike run naked down the street or have him assault. Somebody. You're set something to have him set off a fake explosion somewhere. Like, they didn't go big with it. They had it. I saw video and they had the the brainstorming session. Someone's like what if we had eat a burrito. Like this like it was a corner of the cop. And everyone's like that work. So they dressed up put a wig on them. They took a picture of him eating a burrito. And then there it is us talking about it on the show me eating a cold. Breakfast burrito on national television being bamboozle. They got good say, you you saw the picture you thought it was just in. Well. I didn't eat a burrito. No, okay. So you took time energy from your day to send Texas emails to get a burrito. Yeah. Meet harlot talked about a lot right? Put it in. Rhonda video overeats guy had to cry on a bicycle. Okay. You spent a lot. Rideau and bringing in was a team effort. I all if you haven't been paying attention to our program. I don't know what's wrong with you. It's looking a lot better. And I gotta give jaycee John Curtis. A big shot off. Oh, here's a mazy the pitchers. A plus. We got you. Care about this in Los Angeles. We got we got four five six people working on his great. You know, how important I gotta step up. Our performance precious on smoking involve got the Tilton hours. Nice. Lease you're doing all this research last night. Yes. I got online cliffs Kayla. Johnson. We got. Let's make a promise to be better. More pressure on us to work harder. If we work hard, it will be better naturally, not necessarily. Okay. Maybe we shouldn't work harder. Maybe we should we should go. The other way round. The monster jam. That ain't the right voice cut tell you about Maud search jam. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, we haven't get a voicemail about it. Listen to that. California. Yeah. How staff? Haji koby. Due at the monster truck show. It's a copy fair-haired. Look the monster truck driving, look like. I was wondering is a cultural or reasonable. Could be a monster truck driver. 'cause I never thought of the driver. I watch just started truck out of character. So. Yeah. Cultural or know. Say they won't. I'm five thousand five thousand ole Twitter handle you handle you don't hit me back in five minutes. I'm out. Thousand of d. Islip, Long Island stand up Eric parish DJ, scratches family, red men DASA. Thanks. They shot to be from Berkeley. Couple of things. I can my out. The crowd to determine whether or not attending monster jam was cultural regional. Universal. I was impressed. And I was happy to see. It was a very diverse group of people watching those Mazda trucks. Reg there? I was there. I was there. Reggie. Oh, okay. Revenge taking my ear Alex talking too much in my ear. Okay. It was a diverse group of people attending Mazda champ, not only that. Tell but the question is a good one is the monster truck drivers they're trying to sell the drivers. Now, not just the trucks. You know, they do interviews with them and stuff, and they put their names up that put him on the Jumbotron now there are not yet. The most diverse group of people out there in the world, but they're making strides their making strides, and I would say the one of the most oppressive performances was from El Toro loco driven by a young woman by name Caleb blood. Quincy was into dyed her hair purple. The monster jam experience was great. It was loud. It was you need ear protection. It was going moss jam, but put your plugs on put headphones, top, your ear plugs. You're a great debt. I'm glad you guys got a chance to go and enjoy it. He got sick though. He went to hard definitely cultural. I don't care what that crowd. Look like. Okay. First foremost second, the reason why no is soon as this topic came up. Two people who happened to look like me as a relates to their race Reggie Kayla. Immediately jumped into the microphone was ready to give it to you. But it's almost like the word of mouth. They're not believe your trusted by the mount family here. Jalen and Jacoby, Reggie said, no pictures, no interviews duck. Take on my phone goal to a black person Muslim say, sir. Black person monster jam because my friends that are also black won't believe a black person here. Mafia do that? We'll hold on to that. How would say what your about your about to say, Jan go ahead? I'm on Instagram. Now, I follow you, you Instagram the entire thing. You hit the brakes. Rich hit the brakes Rijn. So now you want me to put strangers I don't know on Instagram. That's what you want me to do. Mr. I'm not a zoo animal. Jacoby you pushed strangers on your all at the time. Number one, number two. Number two. This is really important. You didn't have to search for black people to be there. If it was a lot of them there. What I was there. You weren't there. I'm joy. Trunk taking staff when I scan the crowd. I was pleasantly surprised by the crew around me. Let me tell you. That's what I'm saying. Hey, you believe that. Then he allowed to say, I was pleasantly surprised. That's the statement about my own feeling. That is a fact this voice, right? Here is cultural monster jam. Okay. Tom periods Caucasian. That's a media term overall. Lot of people that drink, bud. Light Coors, light and Budweiser. Okay. Well, universal by the way. Also, it's the same people that drive race cars. Really fast beats a lot left turns very different skills to same people. That are Chaki jockeys differ. He's got tiny. Okay. Let alone Tino. Okay. But my point still stands you GD tyre thing. I looked at it. And I can't I didn't see any people. Call. I didn't I g the crowd because you're out you monster. Jalen tailing? You want me to just specifically doing of some nice black family, just enjoying Mazda jam? Okay. I'm I'm off this conversation. I'm off his conversation in my immediate. To see a black family of four there. Are you serious? Yeah. You know what you're wrong. I saw black family of five saw back to sublet maybe three saw back before. Joe Joe, Joe Johns. You've never been Bridgeport. Then I have been a bridge in Bridgeport. I remember just so, you know, thirteen and under right now, we came to Connecticut a team from Detroit. I'll never forget this. And we felt like we was some city kids, and we was going talk that talk and walk that walk. We ran up on the wrong people in Bridgeport. And before you know, it it was fifty them chasing us out of the ball. I'm telling you. Okay. So I have a lot of respects. So you're talking bowls hometown. So you don't think that there was a black family? At mossy Jim Bridgeport because you're south city right now saying knowing that is you don't believe me speaking to lie on it. You know, what I guarantee you? It was not a black family afford there. Not a black family of four lot data. There are a lot of people listening. I took an elevator with the black fame before knowing that too. I'm not lying on the line. I kept an eye out for this. This. There was a black mom got her hair done, four master master. You know, what upsets me it's up sets me only one there. Have. No, you'll y'all just going off of some of what you think what the reputation is. And I've coming onto this microphone. I know this distributed to hundreds of thousands of people, and I'm saying I was pleasantly surprised it was actually more diverse event than expected. And you know, what you're taking a conversation. This tapping twenty six. Away from what was important the performance of Toro loco the performance of the great grave digger team in making it about race sticker. Sports. Jalen, sticky sports. Great sports, like monster, jam politicizing everything this was tearing our country apart. Jalen rose this. I guarantee you gratin with the monster jam growing up. Crock probably pick up a monster truck and eat it for breakfast. I learned a lot about monster trucks. We bought the magazine. All the monster truck details because Quincy learn things I know about all the different tricks that they do there's there's some press performance of stone crusher flipped over. And then they bring out this this big like escalator thing with an arm that flips the truck back over again. It was exciting thing. I did expect ATV's they sell you on the monster that give you the going around and circles. All right. I'm here for monster trucks dog gotta say, he ain't saying right? Where did you go again monster? Cultural bigshots, Mazda, definitely cultural. I'm not saying it was fifty fifty. I'm not saying it was reflective across section of our American society. I'm just saying pleasantly surprised by the diversity of the crowd. You surprise ten percent. Got it. Okay. Now, you want me to put a number on it. 'cause you don't live my life. Percentage of this room is a minority. I don't live like that. I see souls this human beings. No ninety percent human beings, just human east human dating twenty stirred twenty eighteen and was a family of four please prove me wrong as someone will lease someone will. I saw some people that recognize me say anything people people have color. They probably listen to this show. How many people gave you debt? About our show one, dude. See that lets you know, it wasn't no diversity that reflect our show that will reflect the people that were on the show. Let me tell you diverse. I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now. And you're not listening. All these people around me, always people my ear, all our producers. No one believes me. Now. I'm like, I'm like, you know, what the people that are closest to you. That's what it is the people closest to you other ones the snake, you that's what it is. I'm telling you drink right now, you have thought I was just going to save one simple sentence because must James not about race and politics much appreciating the performance of the athletes is about tricks. You know, what the trucks tie? Say one simple Senate his move on. And talk about the great performances that happened that even between these athletes and their their machine partners. But no addict Tacoma athletes. Oh. Here's another thing that makes it more cultural what kind of terrain. Driving trucks dirt. It's on are. We ain't getting dirty. There. There's there's there's about a handout me to go. Minutes. Hugh, and there's also a nice mix of female drivers as well. To the monster champ's circuit. The most important thing the Q headed amazing. That's all you little tired. A man I went to the step up on it. I didn't know there's a one o'clock take this long train ride, and he loves the train. But after an hour the next stop. Our kids are we there yet? We're not there yet. You a great dad. That's the most important thing as well. Seventy guys. You don't trust me? You politicize everything you know, what? I mean, this is this is not the right way to look things. You guys are the problem. You guys are the problem now read just right everybody is the problem with this. You know, what I was there in Noah, believe me? You don't believe the words come out of my mouth, the why do you continue to produce this program? Why did you be a co host with me? If you think I'm just gonna go on Lyle time. I'm honest. There's a lot of people they're working. Okay. I just said this. I was pleasantly surprised people at work or let me speak, Stephen Egger. Let me speak. I was pleasantly surprised with the diversity in the crowd. I didn't say it was fifty fifty. I didn't say it was represented a cross section of our great society. I just said I was pleasantly surprised at the diversity in the crowd. I got yelled at for five minutes. But the people that are closest to me. That's what happened. Okay. That's what happened to me. I'm done with this show knocking. I'm not quitting forever. But I'm quitting for the next twenty three hours. Okay. That's fair. So I'm not answering all tax. Emails fair for the next twenty three hours, and I'll be back tomorrow. Walk harris. Don't you dare? Guys. I love speaking of hobbies. Let's talk about LeBron James. Yeah.

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#331 Predicting Aaron Rodgers Future, Deshaun Watson, Tom Brady vs Mahomes, & Ask Zac

Strong Opinion Sports

52:45 min | 2 months ago

#331 Predicting Aaron Rodgers Future, Deshaun Watson, Tom Brady vs Mahomes, & Ask Zac

"You know what today we're going to play the music free to 1. Oh my goodness. Good morning. Good afternoon. Whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach shomler. This is strong opinion Sports episode 331. I I wanted to pump you up. I'm sweating. Now that that intro for me always. I feel like I should be a little too high. I got to call him down then get my my pulse back down a little bit lower. Today. We're going to talk about the Super Bowl. We're going to talk about DeShaun Watson. He requested a trade with talk about the Houston Texans wage will do ask Zack at the very end. We got a lot of questions for masks act today my favorite part of the show today, though. Is a segment where I'm going to be predicting the future of Aaron Rodgers, I'm very excited. It'll be fun. It'll be light-hearted. It'll be some people will hate it as they hate every every time I talk later and rods are some people hated a couple of it. The reality is everybody's already made up their mind on errands. So let's jump in I got to start today with this though. This episode is brought to you by netsuite by Oracle. Thank you to them. They help you run your business money more effectively by putting everything all in one place, but firstly I start with a statement. This product is not for everybody. It's not for a small business. It's not for a startup. This product is for companies to bring in 1 million dollars in annual revenue or more. For example my own company strong opinion Sports. We are a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the size. It requires to really truly enjoy them. I couldn't use them. I'm too small or make don't make enough money, but I know that some CEOs watch and listen to the show some people that own major sports franchise have listened to this podcast. This product is birth. 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And if you don't believe me yet netsuite will and can prove it to you go to netsuite.com opinion and you can get a free promotion. Back to her netsuite.com opinion. They will show you how they can benefit your business schedule your free product or at netsuite.com tour. So our slash up in a sense to our my paper. That's me. Com slash opinion is right place to go next week, opinion. Wow. I love you guys. Let me make some water real quick. You know, I think I'm going to I'm not going to do the song next week. It pumps me up makes me very excited. I don't know. That's the right State of Mind to do the show The Hook when I listen to it cuz I do listen to my show location and make sure it sounds good and Giada and the song makes me go like yeah like oh when I'm listening to it with headphones, I feel so pumped up. However, I don't know that it's good for conducive for like good conversation. Well find out let me play with it. Let me do some thinking let's talk about Houston first though. The Houston Texans have hired a new head coach David culley to be he's a new head coach that gave him a five-year contract. He had three titles this past year with the Baltimore Ravens. He was the assistant head coach. He was the passing game coordinator and he was the wide receivers coach. I thought it was a big surprise. I did not expect and I don't think anybody expected this guy to be hired as a head coach. I didn't know he was on the market. I don't know. He was out there kind of reminds me a lot of the Lions where Detroit Lions are such a bad organization. They had to hire somebody that maybe nobody wanted cuz of reality is nobody else wanted the job and was willing to take the job. By the way, the Ravens were last in passing in the NFL interesting to hire and part of that because of their offense. It's not people say that it's not entirely Fair like, you know, they were a team that heavily runs a football but it is weird to hire the passing game coordinator from the worst passing team in the NFL app KO CH and again, it's because it's a bad job. It's not even any criticism I have of its higher has nothing to do with David Kelly really it's not really his fault. It's just that he's entering a terrible situation. I think a good coaching hire would have helped if you hired Eric the enemy who I think is fantastic. I think he would have fired and he would have failed. Excuse me in Houston. Houston is awful. They're poorly run. They've got a bad owner. They got a bath office though the worst team in football. They interviewed Josh McCown to be a head coach. He's never been to coach in the NFL before let alone a head coach of the Houston Texans makes no sense to me. It's very weird. I feel bad for Dave. Holy feels, like he's the only coach who is willing to take the opportunity. Um, I want to say the guy has no chance but I will say this. I hope that what happens is Houston trades with the New York Jets. They give if the Jack Huston the number two overall pick and then the Houston Texans can draft Justin Fields David culley with Baltimore's background with Justin fields and another first-round pick or two ago from New York. That's the best chance they have to do anything positive in Houston. And if that happens I will have an open mind but I just man I I feel bad for David Kohli. The owner is the real problem there. The owner is terrible Cal McNair and then Jackie story of the guy who's kind of a symptom of the of the owner. He's also awful. Likely he's this guy David Cole he's going to he's Houston, but I not all that is his fault whether he's a good coach or not. It doesn't matter the situation there is terrible and honestly, I'm just glad that the offensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs Eric Vienna me home. In spared thank goodness. He's got a good spot right now in Kansas City. He's got Patrick Mahomes. He's in a good location. He's winning a lot of games. I think what he should do Eric be entity should either a wait for an amazing job opening maybe maybe like maybe a team of the great quarterback comes open. Hey, take that job or replace any read when any read eventually does retire? So whatever God has the upper hand. He does not need to take a bad job. This was not a good opportunity in my opinion for Eric be enemy. He's better than that and I'm really glad it's David Kohli and not Eric Bana me. I feel bad for David Kelly. I think he's going to fail but I will say again if they trade for the number two overall pick, they draft Justin Fields. That's their best shot to win again in Houston with David Coley and with their new quarterback in Houston. Now it's also been officially announced DeShaun Watson. The Houston Texans quarterback has formally requested a trade. Apparently it was a couple of days ago right after hiring the new coach that came out that yeah. He's actually requested to be traded. Number one. I one hundred percent support DeShaun Watson here is the right move. He should ask for a trade, you know first you've got to realize the number one priority for Deshaun Watson needs to be in has to be Himself and his family. He shouldn't worry about a bad owner and trying to take care of the pet owners. It's the owners job to put DeShawn in a good situation to win and Houston is an awful awful organization their owner Cal McNair has the biggest problem a symptom of that problem is Jackie still be the guy running stuff at the front office. Both are really terrible and I encourage you go read about Jackie still be dead. He sounds manipulative. He sounds not good to work with the bare minimum. He's at least the Peter Principle meaning he got promoted way too far and there's not a lot other things to say about this is Deshawn wants out a good move. I think Sean's a great leader. I think the shell on any organization and football would be lucky to have him. I thought it was impressive how well he played how hard he fought and how good of decisions he made off of the as this the taxes that horrible year no help around him and he kept making good decisions taking care of the football putting his team in a position to be successful the team around him. Simply was awful. And yep. I would love to see the Green Bay Packers trade. Hey, Aaron Rodgers wants out. Send Aaron Rodgers to Houston get DeShaun Watson. I love that, you know trade for trade man. That's Houston gets a good quarterback and the Packers get it on Watson. That's fantasy. Won't ever happen. But oh man, I would love love love to see that happen. Now the number one scene that I think has the best way to get DeShaun Watson is the New York Jets. I like that. I think I'd be fun Robert Saleh DeShaun Watson, probably. I'm sure they're getting Richard Sherman at some point. You could give up at the minimum probably got to give up but at minimum this year the Jets have the number two overall pick and the number 23 overall pick in the 2021 NFL draft if usin gets at least those probably more probably should be like three or four first-round picks. You're going to trade DeShaun Watson a way, which is great for Houston. And I think it's worth it for New York, but if you're on the Houston Texans you get the number two overall pick you get probably Justin Fields another starter with a 23 overall pick two more first-round picks as the years go on. I think everybody wins. I think the thing is if you're Houston, you got to trade him. He doesn't want to be there. He's not going to work with you. And so it's really unhealthy to keep a player who doesn't want to work with you under any kind of under contract and kind of Hostage and my favorite thing about this really and he'll get a lot of hate for wanting but people got realize it's very rare that a quarterback really understands how valuable they are. We've seen at the college level players. If Joe burrow transferred from Ohio State LSU and people are much more okay with mobility in college and the NFL. It's been very rare that a quarterback really says, hey, I'm valuable. I should go to a great franchise. I I don't deserve to be sitting here with a terrible team and people argue contracts all the time. But I look I once the quarterback wakes up and goes wait a minute. I Okay. I hate this I don't I don't like his team. I don't like two people. I'm working for I want a better organization. I'm I'm so glad I hope more people do but the Sean Watson is done to say get me out of here. I wish Andrew Luck had done that. I thought that I was more quarterback would really say hey, it's my job as a leader to help the people in this locker-room win and if that's not going to happen them out, but I wish Andrew Luck and said four years get me better players. He might not a retired early. It's there's a culture here that quarterbacks can't be audacious and stand up and say Hey, I want better that's awful and that's stupid. And so I'm glad to Sean Watson's trying to get out. It's the right thing and I hope we see more of this young fellow from quarterbacks moving forward. Let's shift gears real quick. Let's talk about the Super Bowl. Me check my audio real quick. Little bit loud. It's like blowing my eardrums out very loud in my ear. Not not fun for me. We've reached Super Bowl 55 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers against the Kansas City Chiefs and change the story to me pretty obviously is Tom Brady against Patrick Mahomes. Oh my goodness, and I it's it's a matchup that we're so lucky to get and I think we're going to talk about for the next twenty twenty-five years. We're always going to go remember that time Patrick Mahomes played Tom Brady in the Super Bowl and I wanted I don't want to take credit for this thought. Someone pointed this out on a YouTube comment one of my videos where they said. Basically this is like having Michael Jordan play LeBron James in an NBA Finals series where we are going to look back years later and thought wow, we got this amazing matchup between potentially the two greatest quarterbacks of all time. We are years from now, we're going to debate who's greater Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady and it's going to go back and forth and I I thought So lucky to say well remember that one time they played head-to-head in the Superbowl and this guy one for the sake of argument people are going to like that that happened. It's great for Ratings. It's interesting and I we never got Lebron vs. Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals, but we get Mahomes vs. Brady. That's so cool to me. And oh my gosh, I I think every time they played I believe it's come down to one school. What I believe is if if one game blows out another team Kansas City is going to blow out Tampa Bay. I don't see a future where Tampa Bay blows out Kansas City and if Tampa wins is going to be a close hard-fought win, but I think it gave us this Superbowl like every other Super Bowl Tom Brady's ever been and it's going to come down to the final play the wire a really tight clothes game and you gotta say like who I can't think of two players in the entire NFL that I would rather have as my quarterback than Peyton. Sorry that than Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes at the end of the game. So it's amazing that like cuz normally I'd go well your place. Had to go home at the end of the game he's going to win but then I go what you're playing also Tom Brady and at the end of the game. Who do you trust more Tom Brady or Patrick Holmes? I have no idea and it's going to be really fun to find out this coming weekend are starting from now, February 7th. I believe is a date of Super Bowl 55 going to be very very very fun. Let me give me 1 so I'm gonna take some drinks and water real quick. I want to shift gears to Aaron Rodgers. I get called an Aaron Rodgers hater all the time. And I I really disagree with that. I don't think I am an Aaron Rodgers hater. I don't hate Aaron Rodgers. First of all, I do the s m awards for the NFL. So do the NFL s Awards probably in February after the Superbowl and I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers is going to win my NFL player of the year award. So you can call me back later. I can recognize how amazing is his numbers the accomplishments he's had. I think Aaron is an amazing player. I think he's Mabley. He's at least in the conversation for the most talented quarterback wage ever seen ever does amazing stuff throwing the football errands an amazing amazing player. And I don't want that forgotten. I think people need to understand my perspective on Aaron is wow. He's incredibly talented. He's got us giving us incredible entertainment now, I do critique Aaron Rodgers and I don't think having a critique of somebody makes them a hater. I don't think I'm a hater. I can recognize his greatness, but I can also recognize the bad stuff. Aaron Rodgers says he's both good and bad. I think almost everybody has I can't think of a single person in the entire world. That's nothing. You could critique. Everybody's a good and bad and I think Aaron's got bad and I pointed out now in my opinion. Aaron Rodgers is not a good enough leader. He does not meet the standard that I would want my faith as quarterback to meet and the way I will all my franchise quarterback to act Aaron does not meet my standard. I'm sorry. He his comments repeatedly and regularly have created Division and drama where people are going. I don't know and there he creates doubt and division within his own team. That's weird. I don't like that. You don't see Tom Brady doing that. You don't see Patrick Mahomes doing that you do see most people don't do that. And Aaron does not take accountability ever. He loves to blame other people. I can't find a clip of Aaron going. Yeah, that's my bad that that was a bad throw a bad decision and he always deflects blame and finds them to blame other people even in the the press conference last week after the NFC championship game. He made it very clear. That's not my decision. He blamed on his head coach. He could have said I love my coach he could he could have doubled down and said, I love my mom. She's awesome defended the guy or supported the guy instead Aaron wanted everybody. He wanted it very clear. I didn't make that decision. Okay. Oh, I remember a couple of weeks ago Lamar Jackson for that you refuse to leave the field. If you really wanted to go for it on fourth-and-goal from the 8-yard line at the end of the game. You could have done it, but you didn't And I have seen USC's quarterback Keaton slovis. Take responsibility for an interception that bounced off his receivers hands where that's not cute in Silvis his fault. But because Keaton slovis USC starting quarterback a guy in college, by the way, younger than me off is eager to take responsibility. And the last thing Cadence office wants to do is throw one of his teammates under the bus I ask you how can a Young quarterback in college take extreme ownership when Aaron Rodgers can't even do that. I It baffles me to no end I think part of being a quarterback is taking responsibility not just for the good stuff that happens but also some of the bad stuff off and nobody ever challenges Aaron Rodgers on that ever now. I want to share my prediction for what's going to happen with Aaron Rodgers this offseason. Here's what's going to happen. Are you ready? Here's what will happen with Aaron Rodgers this offseason. Nothing absolutely. Nothing is going to happen with Aaron Rodgers. He's not going to leave Green Bay. No way errands a whiner. Erin is not going to leave Greenberg because he doesn't have the guts or courage to take responsibility and go somewhere else. He's afraid of failure. He doesn't like taking risks watch the way he hates throwing interceptions and off. He Tom Brady Guy Tom will throw seven interceptions of the game as long as he wins his happy if Aaron throws to two interceptions in a game he falls apart. We saw that earlier in the year when Tampa Bay played Green Bay a territorial options kind of just looked like you wanted to go home. He's always blaming other people aren is always finding ways to deflect blame and point fingers at other people for their failures. Oh and by the way, Aaron's going to keep complaining he's going to stay in Green Bay next year. He'll complain left and right you'll see a little comments around here people go that's weird thing to say. It's not going to stop and he's not by the way going to win an NFC Championship game next year, but mark my words are wrong. There's come Week 1 the 2021 season. He was still being Green Bay. He's got one more year in Green Bay, then he's out but I am telling you a trades not going to happen, but the Packers don't want him long-term. There's a reason why Green Bay drafted another quarterback Jordan love they realize hey, you know, Matt LaFleur got one year as a head coach of the Green Bay Packers working with Aaron Rodgers, and he realized Oh, no, I better get some kind of I need a Lifeboat. I need an escape pod to get out of here because at some point it's not going to work with Aaron. The reason why the Packers drafted Jordan levels not about age like is Aaron Rodgers is too old or playing badly. It's because he's hard to work with they don't want to work with him long term. They're going to wait till Jordan love it's ready then pull the trigger get rid of Arab. Here's an errand what's Aaron Rodgers wants to Packers to come begging sing. And please stay we want you. Please don't leave us he wants to be wanted he wants to be perceived. He wants people to tell him he's great. We need you. You better stay. That's what he wants that he's not going to leave. Now Erin does not like being critiqued or people call it criticism. I call it critique. I think so much Kinder way to put it good leaders have no problem with critique. They're not insecure. They're always evaluating themselves. Tarrin for some reason hates criticism. He hates anytime you point out anything negative about him. He hates that very very much and I want to warn people stay away from Aaron Rodgers. If you're the San Francisco 49ers or the Jets or some team out there. It's like, oh we'll take Aaron. Oh, good luck with that. Aaron's hard to work with Aaron Rodgers and Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan running. The offense attack is going to have a bone to pick he's going to have stuff. He's going to have his own opinions and he's going to disagree and he's going to fight back and argue with the coach. That's what happens. Every single time. Aaron has a coach at this point Cause your crazy to deny that and the Packers by the way are great. So if Aaron goes to another team is going to be unhappy still no matter where Aaron goes take any franchise 49ers off. What's another team needs a quarterback? I'm trying to think the Dallas Cowboys like no matter where Aaron Gilson the quarterback next he's going to be unhappy. He's going to find himself still frustrated because he can't appreciate what's in front of him. The Packers are great. They've got a really good head coach. You can find Matt LaFleur win-loss record and people say well, it's all in their Rogers both the Packers were terrible before Matt LaFleur off there then since battle Florida got into two NFC championship games in a row, Matt LaFleur can coach you can argue about the decision at the end of the game at the floor is a good coach. You had a good defense you had you picked off Tom Brady three times last week and he got a top-three receiver Davante Adams. So stop telling you the Packers are terrible. So go ahead Aaron can leave. Oh, yeah, by the way in Green Bay, there's no owner. There's a small media Market that I'm Aaron can dominate they never challenged him. They're afraid the media marketing Green Bay is afraid to push his buttons or talents and they're afraid they'll get what's the word when you the silent treatment or ignored dead? And just imagine Aaron Rodgers who? To some degree count reminds me of Kevin Durant who can't handle criticism imagine that guy, New York. Aaron would get eaten alive in the New York City Market. He couldn't handle it. And then people say people tell me this all the time. They say you better watch Pat McAfee these conversations with Aaron Rodgers on that show because in interviews and the conversation on the show airs seems great and he does I watch the interviews. I've seen him there. They aren presents himself awesomely. Cuz of course, it's great. He's in a very safe environment. Anybody can sound great in a setting where you're being interviewed a bunch of fluff ball questions by your friend. Like he's never asked or never gave a challenge. He's never has to answer any real questions. And this is not I don't want to start a feud with that Mac that respect. I'm actually a lot we follow each other in Instagram. I respect him. I think it's a great Entertainer they show as well done. I mean, he's got more listeners than I do have no problem saying that but I of course Aaron seems great on that show. It's it's fluff. He's never ever ask a real question. He never has to answer anything. He said it's hanging out. It's not an interview, by the way. It's a conversation between two friends and that's and that's fine. But stop acting like Aaron Rodgers conversations with Pat McAfee. Totally encapsulate who he is as a person with anybody can sound good and entertaining and interesting in that setting. Now I'm not going to change anybody's mind. They got no problem with that. I know that everybody's already chosen a side on Aaron Rodgers 95% of people are just here cuz they want confirmation of what they believe they if they hate em, they're excited. If they love Aaron Rodgers, they're pissed off. Like people are just look for Content often to find confirmation of what they already believe so I know that I'm not changing anybody's mind. I wish I would always people out more often finds some people do most people just want confirmation, but I will say nobody ever ever holds Aaron Rodgers account home. I don't understand if you're really a Packers fan when you want the absolute best from your quarterback to your paying a ton of money to Aaron is the hero when they win Aaron as the hero he gets all the credit. But any time the Packers lose a game you notice that fingers get pointed at everything other than Rogers. I'm just saying it's years now every year. It's like you it's like Packers fans take the Finish Line like oh now it's over here. They just keep moving the Finish Line ever. Like it's our defense. It's a receiver. It's our coach. It's always everything but Aaron Rodgers fault. Just they picked off Tom Brady three times last week and the Packers lost Aaron had multiple opportunities to make plays at the end of that game. And he didn't he was terrible in the Red Zone was terrible after interceptions didn't make it happen. And my friend Cayla made a point to me he pointed out that when people talk positively about Aaron Rodgers what they're praising every time is his numbers and his statistics. Oh completion were passing yards and it's amazing like again Aaron incredibly talented, but you notice that when you talk about Tom Brady, it's more than just numbers and statistics. It's moments. It's Super Bowl comebacks. It's victories in the Super Bowl. It's his battles with Peyton Manning gets chemistry with his teammates when we talk about Tom Brady. It's a different conversation. It's not just going look at his touchdowns wage earners passing yards. So it's about wow. Look at these moments where we've been enamored with how great Tom Brady is And then watch the demeanor of Tom Brady compared to Aaron Rodgers Thomas 43 years old. He's Twenty-One years and and he's having the time of his life. I hope that when I am Twenty-One thousand in a my career. I still have the excitement the Vigor and the energy of Tom Brady. I hope I'm having the time of my life doing this show the lighting be in bed. I got a bigger city. Like I hope we grow but man I hope I'm still enjoying what I'm doing a Tom Brady still enjoys what he does. Look at Aaron Aaron looks angry and Sullen and cold and Body Language matters. And the last thing I want to say because I I did a video I have another Channel where I talked I do a podcast called flawed humans with my girlfriend. We were talking about arguments and disagreements. Now, it's important. It's better to yell at somebody than to just do a desk there. Let's talk about because Tom Brady yells at his teammates. Come on, man. You gotta he's like come on you need to catch that ball, but it's it's better to yell at somebody get it out and say dude. I love you, but you gotta be better than with Aaron Rodgers often does his teammates which is just stare at them. You mean mugs his teammates when they drop a pass or or ignores them eat, it won't throw them the football like it's it's crazy to me the way Aaron Rodgers behaves and nobody nobody in Green Bay calls it out or points it out. It continued will always baffled me the way that people treat Aaron Rodgers with a complete pass. He's given God status, but he doesn't deliver like a god and I am so so tired and I I know it's my second segment in a row, but I'm telling you errands not can leave Green Bay. He's too much of a winery not doesn't the accountability to leave your name and what would happen? He's so afraid of failure one of the mighty Aaron Rodgers went to San Francisco. And didn't work. I don't think has the guts to find out. I don't think he has the guts that Tom Brady did to leave where you're comfortable errands comfortable. He's not going to leave Green Bay. And I I just come find me in September next year when the season starts in twenty Twenty-One talk to me then errands not going to leave Green Bay. And again, I don't think he has the guts to make that happen. I'm going to take a break. I will be right back when I do. We'll talk about ask Zack and Barracks talk about we're going to do ask Zack my favorite segments. My name is actually going to take a short break. I will be right back. Oh, right. We are back over doing very very well. I I was listening to a podcast earlier today gave me a reminder for the finding two quad cabs are really like about Xbox off and I was reminded I need to start asking you guys to rate the show on iTunes. I keep forgetting to if you're listening right now. Please take a moment right in the show on iTunes. It really helps to show grow. I'm trying to grow. Listens aren't as high as I'd like them to be. I think we're a lot bigger on YouTube. So please go help me grow by raiding the show on actions. Give it a star rating. Give it a review if you want to but the rating really really is important and it helps the she'll get more traffic and more people watching and listening now, it's time for ask Zack my favorite part of the show. It's where we answer where I and there's no wait, it's me alone in this room where I answer questions from the audience you go to patreon.com forward slash give a dollar a month. You can get more if you want to please do it literally helps pay my rent. But a dollar a month gives you access to submit questions on patreon now, he's if you submit a question, I do not guarantee to read your question on the show. My only guarantees. I do look at every single question with my eyeballs and I picked the top couple of the read on the show off and yeah, let's jump in. The first question of the day is from Ali Ali writes and says hi Zach first off. I'm wondering what you think of the rest of Patrick Mahomes career holds he is he could place For 15 more years if you want to which is pretty scary to the rest of the NFL. Will there be a Chiefs Dynasty? Will he retire early? Because there's nothing left to accomplish. What are your predictions? Finally I have a fun fact for you Guiles per Ellen appropriate person will say a USC alumnus. It's in California is maybe it's a Spanish Town parade attended 797 consecutive USC Trojans football games, but then entered into perspective he attended games from 1925 to 1998. Can you imagine the difference of Silo play in the 20s and 30s compared to the 80s and 90s. Maisel didn't know that Patrick Mahomes his career. The first of all I would be absolutely astounded if at the end of his career, we weren't talking about him as at the minimum the potential greatest of all time. It's going to be hammered Tom Brady fifteen twenty years from now whenever his career is over and yeah, I think I think we are in a we have an opportunity to see a Chiefs Dynasty happen. What's even crazy? They've kept the band together as far as coaches Steve Spagnola the defensive coordinator appears to have no desire to want to leave Kansas City. That's great. He fails as a head coach and I think also you recognize I got a good thing. I'm not going to screwed up a like winning Super Bowls. I like having a great quarterback makes my defense better and then Eric be enemy the offensive coordinator who keeps being in the Running Fred coaching jobs and keeps not wage jobs despite being probably the best candidate out there because he's going to the Superbowl teams want a coach sooner than that to get impatient Eric man. He doesn't get higher plus also are enemy has been canceling interviews and even priorities football which I gotta say. If you're if you're a person as a coach your job is to coach now not worried about your next opportunity the fact that coat if you're an NFL team and you can't respect the fact that Eric Benet is busy coaching. It's kind of weird and if I'm A team out there, it seems like we should be like, hey, we'll pause everything we want you will wait for you until you're done but they're also teams are afraid that if they don't get a job. Maybe then they waited for no reason so I get it but man what could really happen is if and you re does retire we could have Eric the enemy step into his place and continue that dynasty. So absolutely we could see coming up in Kansas City. Now the next question kind of ties into its want to read it. Dylan says, hey Zack Dylan writing in I love the show and everything you're doing with the podcast. You clearly have a deep passion for your craft and gave her you for your persistence and hard work. I know you love a good story within Sports and I wanted to hear your thoughts on this villains and heroes within the sport players such as Tom Brady or coaches such a Bill Belichick have always been seen as the villain or antagonist now that they have been split up that story line is fading away. What are your thoughts on this? And who do you think will be the new villain or new hero within the NFL? Thanks for reading with your eyeballs still and so Tom Brady still have seen as a villain because people he keeps winning and people hate seeing them in the Super Bowl for some reason people hate seeing people win and succeed. And the way of billing is created in sports is when you succeed enough the people get jealous or they're like the argument is we're tired of seeing you but it makes no sense to be a people hate LeBron James. Hey, Tom Brady people eight people hate success. And the reality is that the more Patrick Mahomes keeps winning and being successful and playing at a high level the more he will be hated cuz at some point people get sick of you these new and fun. Now if you still playing the same me as five years from now people are gonna get really tired like always people ready already here. Some of it people we see them everywhere. We're tired of it and you see Trevor Lawrence everywhere people hate hate seeing Trevor Lawrence everywhere. If you wait in your really successful. A lot of people also will hate you. That's just how you get more exposure and some of those people supposed to you hate you and you're tired of you. And I think maybe it's possible Mahomes gets hated on a little bit less because and this is a not a cheap shot but I think it's less attractive than Tom Brady. So there's less jealousy that like, he's also a model home and I think the other thing is Patrick Mahomes quite frankly, I would say it's more fun to watch. So Tom Brady was boring and control the football and they kind of want on technicalities outsmarted you Patrick Mahomes doesn't just outsmart you he beats you in a very entertaining fun way. So it's possible. He's less hated than Tom Brady, but at some point he's going to be hated too. It's what happens when you dominate at a high level everybody. Who does that gets hated at some point. So whether it's LeBron or Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan, like everybody hates people that are successful and the more Patrick Mahomes wins, the more successful. He will be who are the heroes people of a good story that I can new person. So Josh Allen's a hero Lamar Jackson's a hero if you don't win too much and you just find new and you win sometimes your birth. And then if you went too much, you become a villain Aaron Rodgers have seen as a hero if Aaron Rodgers dominated the NFL for the last ten years and one like winter 10 Super Bowls. He'd be a villain too. So I thought that's how it works. The next question is from Jeremy Jeremy writes and says hey Zach, even though the NFL playoffs are in Full Effect right now. I want to shift gears to something non-sports related. I think I can recall you considering Lal and one of your favorite movies of all time after years of having it on my wife's a finally come to watch it. And I got to say I one hundred percent get you off every second of it and would rate it to a perfect 10. It sent ironically I watched the right after having one of my worst all-time movie watching experiences, which was dragging myself through the lazily written unfunny stinking pile of nothingness. That is Grown Ups 2, it's hard for me to put into words. Just how much hatred I feel towards this abomination of a movie and hardly even deserves to be called one. But to be honest letting letting some steam off on wage. And giving a little rant doesn't feel bad at all. So here's my question. Are there any movies you hate with a passion or love to rant about I know you're not much to rant guy. But sometimes I feel that point out the Bad and the office can enhance one's ability to truly appreciate the good and the great as always. I appreciate you for looking at this with your eyeballs. Grube has George thing Vaughn Jeremy, I think at some I apologize I do that language, but I'm a dumb America. Are you my best? So there's two movies I hate with some personal Island dude, if you're a person with a dream like if you want to make a sports podcast or you want to be a musician an applet no matter if you're a person with a dream watch low and it made me cry. I cry pretty much every time I watch it. It's amazing. I love it so much. So I gotta first of all I got a lot to say here. I'm starting a movie podcast in the next. Next month and I've been working on behind the scenes recording starts next week. I'm gonna record for then have a backlog so I can just put him out once a week and already not have to put the pressure off. Putting it out right after I record it. I'm excited for that. It's going to be really good. And so with that comes I'm doing another I've got three channels at some point. When one of those channels off on one of those channels my personal Channel, I'm probably going to make a video about Phantom Menace my least favorite movie of all time. I absolutely hate Phantom Menace because it's got bad writing and bad Direction and oh my gosh and I my dream like if I if I was in Make-a-Wish kidding at one dream or like a genie said Hayes a key at one thing my dream would be to remake and rewrite Star Wars the the the prequels. I think I could do it way better. I can make Anakin a better character that you care about and then you're upset when you change this and you better you understand it. I got a whole theory behind it. I got a whole storyline. I literally have I've written treatments for this song. It's crazy. How much a half done for my idea Star Wars? Oh, hey phantom menace, but I'm not going to talk about that here. There's a movie. I really want to my shell is going to be diving into one movie per episode and you talk off. Two hours about each movie diving into my friends and talking about it. I want to watch cats at some point cats looks terrible. I want to understand what's about with it like but there's a movie I really really hate that is really fun to do too. It's called Seventh Son. It's a fantasy setting. It's got a really good cast and it's got horribly written dialogue and story progression. It makes no sense. The story The writings terrible and I wanted some point talk about Seventh Son. It's got the guy from Game of Thrones. It's got Alicia vikander who plays Laura Croft in Tomb Raider Seventh Son the movie. Oh my goodness. It's a movie. I really really want to dive into and talk some smack about if somebody really fun. It's a it's it's also it's not just like I was watching Ratatouille last night. And the attitudes about a Critic liking a recruiting cat versus restaurant basically rat makes a food, but that's pointless to this conversation. The critic made a point. He said that sometimes the worst restaurant I go to the worst fate is the most profitable most entertaining because it's fun to talk about bad stuff. I I love diving into like a bad quarterback or a good or a quarter back right sure about took cousins or to a ton of a like a quarterback. Like I don't know that's way more fascinating to me than talking about Patrick Mahomes who's pretty clearly and obviously amazing. So movie like Seventh Son dieting and going off. Why did this go wrong? Like analyzing? What went wrong why it's bad. Why didn't work like I love understanding why and analyze and stuff like that. So there really is something to talking about things that are bad things that are very good. There is something to that where it works really really well. And Rafael writes in he says hey Zach Rafael's writing in from Switzerland Rafael is writing in. I don't know. I think I think I tried to rewrite it. But it says Raffaele writing it from twitch. And first of all, I wanted to tell you the SLS is one of my favorite podcast. I've been listening to you for a long time or may number one source for anything about football the podcast gets better and better every episode and your hard work really Chic. Thank you Raphael. So my question quite a while ago, you mentioned apart from F1 and football. You aren't really interested in other sports specifically mentioning soccer in your explanation that got me thinking because here in Europe it is especially the opposite people love soccer and don't really get into American football very much A lot of people talked. I talked to explain to me that in their eyes American football is very static most of the time plus it is hard to grasp where a soccer is dynamic and there's always something going on without many intermission. So my question is Why is it that in your eyes American football is more attractive than soccer. So first of all, I think just because a sports complex doesn't make it worse or you know, I think it's actually if you just think at some things easier to understand doesn't make it inherently better. It makes it inherently more accessible. So it's you're trying to kick it into the goal. Like that's you kick. The ball around tries soccer is way more simple. So anybody can go get drunk and yelling I get why it's very accessible people like it and I actually I agree with the static criticism. However, I wouldn't change a single thing about football. My favorite part of football is the strategies and during the static Parts worth. It's not nothing's happening and football. There's actually a lot happening. It's coaches having you're if you're watching the game, you know, like, oh, they're just Milling around getting ready for the next play I get why they feel boring. But during that moment between plays when feels like nothing's happening in the Press Box or on the sidelines. A lot of conversations are happening a lot of strategies going on there trying to game-plan to figure out what to call next what play did call next what what angle to take and that is the part of football. I really really love. I'm sure Sakura some kind of strategy. I don't I know nothing about soccer. Like I know I know the rules generally basically but I am sure there is strategy cuz every sport has some kind of strategy. I've never played soccer now the low-scoring and soccer drives me nuts the the tie game crazy now Premier League soccer World Cup soccer. It's really good. My friend Brandon lives in Texas I go he's a big soccer fan played soccer and college like when I watch soccer with him, it's fun cuz I learned about it and we only watch home really great soccer like an MLS soccer game is just not that you can tell it's not that good the quality of talent isn't there now in like I live in the Portland area wage The Portland Timbers people have to go and yell and get drunk like I get it but soccer just just because it's simpler doesn't make it better. And I I think there's in fact, I'm sure there's a lot less strategy in soccer than in football football is one of the most strategic Sports in the planet. It's there's nothing like soccer or so. There's nothing like football excuse American football basketball is a lot more physical and a lot less stressed you call plays and sets but it's not quite the same as the level of detail and preparation goes into a football game. If you have a week to prepare versus a couple of days. It really changes how much analyzation goes into every single game. So that's why I love football love that preparation and the mental side of the game. Carter writes in and says, okay. I'm someone who has believed Brady is at the end of the road all year. However, this is a game Tom can win talking about Super Bowl. He's not the strongest or the most accurate quarterback in home, but it's the greatest decision maker ever play quarterback in the NFL and decision-making is the skill needed to beat Kansas City with the elite receivers around him. All he has to do is make the right decisions which you can do. I would guess that we get a close game and I wouldn't be confident calling either way. I think you should go with your gut on this one Zach. Why should Kansas City be considered unbeatable when Tampa is so talented all-around. So if any team can beat Kansas City, it is Tom Brady Tampa Bay like they just I expect a very close game. I think the most fun part about it is Both teams are going to get an opportunity to late in the game. And I can't think of two quarterbacks in the NFL more that I would rather have with the ball at the end of the normally when when any team plays Kansas City I go. Well the problem is that I wouldn't want to give you're going to have if a it's a close game you're going to have Patrick Mahomes with the ball at the end of the game. That's terrifying and I'd say the same about Tom Brady to go like well, the other team has no chance because we're playing off of Tom Brady's at the end of the game you're screwed in this game. You are the two best people in the NFL at the end of a game Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. I have no idea what's going to happen. It's gonna be incredibly fun. And I just I'm excited just happens going to be wild and exciting and really really cool and Tampa has a chance man. They the way they're rolling in the playoffs the the police they have in each other the Brotherhood they built the house and they're on Kansas City should be the favorite, but Tampa Bay absolutely has an opportunity to win the Superbowl. The next question I've written both back to back cuz it kind of tied into each other landed writes in and says which of the four elements from Avatar. Would you want to bend and white earth wind fire and water and then Josh replied to that on patreon and said piggybacking office Which element would be the most helpful and to sneakily give you an advantage in football. So the most the best in football would it be are bending because you can spend or water bender fire been on a football field, but we could do is use the air to feel Defenders around you and make a miss and you people out so that or you know to jump a little bit higher than normal to catch a pass kind of thing. I would there was an if I could have one element at my disposal I'd want to be an airbender because I want to fly I would give anything in the world. To just be able to fly like I I would be so happy. I wish I could fly like Superman or any I want to be up above on my own accord flying above the world. The reality is I probably don't have the patience to be in there been if you watch Avatar, you know, it requires a lot of patience and peace and quiet and I'm to brute-force. So I'd probably end up being like an earthbender who's like pounding on the walls a month ad because I built myself a house. I'd be happy so but yeah, you're right. I think I think are is the best for football Sterling writes and says Zach do you watch a lot or any football with your girlfriend? My girlfriend does not unless it's the Broncos cuz she was raised in Denver. How do you connect with the girlfriend through Sports? And what are some ways you try to make it more interesting? My girlfriend doesn't care about football at all as she tries like she gets what's going on cuz she's with me and I talked about football the time and actually she sends me statistics sometimes and fun little factoids and she sent me that Tom Brady stats off. About how Tom Brady is more likely to win a Superbowl and Steph Curry is to hit a 3-pointer that came from her last week and she's really good at understanding people and that's a lot of sports is just human interaction and people skills and people so she really contributes to the show in a lot of ways, but she's not into sports and actually really like that cuz it when I'm not working I don't want it like the moments. I'm not working. I want to be away from work. And so when I'm with them it's not about sports. Now the way she watches football with me. She plays her a Nintendo switch. So we'll be on the couch. I'm watching football. She's on her switch playing like Mario versus Raving Rabbids or whatever and that's how she gets to be near me and we had to be together, but she's doing what entertains her and I'm doing what entertains me and working on my shelves. So yeah, that's how we watch football together. She plays on her and handle switch and I watch football on the TV off. Now the next question is from who Joshua's got a good one. Joshua says, I know the F1 interview intro music is one of your favorite sports themes some Curious which are the main themes is your most favorite. There's the classic Monday night football Sunday Night Football on NBC the CBS one the fox one the Sun Devils my favorite....... And then like Sunday Night Football. Oh my gosh that that music with Al Michaels voice and Cris Collinsworth. Like I said, it's my favorite is and I know now I hope I sang the right one. That's actually how funny would be if that's like Fox, but I know it's not fox fox liked it and I know I just I really I love Sunday night football's music. It's it's phenomenal the NBC music. Well done for football Trent says Mr. Shambler. What is your guilty pleasure of the series? You watched or are watching I heard you mention Outer Banks on one of your podcast which some might be guilty about I thought it was great. Also being a fan of quarterbacks. How exciting is it to see cleansmart backup quarterbacks played big games you talk about Taylor henneke. Banao Chad Henne played for a bit. Tyler Hartley drove down the field for the Ravens. I feel like no matter what team it is. It is so fun to watch a pack of shine. Cheers Trent. Absolutely. I love watching backup quarterbacks play. Well eating the expectation now my guilty pleasure show. So first of all my comfort food show as I watch the expanse on Amazon. It's a space show. I loved it so much. Oh my goodness. It's better than Star Trek. Actually Star Trek actually lost me and I stopped watching or caring but the expanse of my favorite show on TV. Now my guilty pleasure show the show. I probably feel guilty about watching a little bit embarrassed about how much I love it boy. I love The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. I love the drama. I love with our parts where it's over produced or annoying but man that that TV series The Bachelor The Bachelorette my girlfriend introduced me to them this year. I got it's phenomenal television. I'm sorry. It's great. They're arguing and yelling in the drama Gods. It's wonderful TV and I like this lady Victoria The Bachelor right now is a nightmare but it's fun to watch like sites. It's trashy and fun and I don't mind it at the bachelor is my guilty pleasure show that I like and I feel guilty about Zak writes in says hey Zach big fan and really appreciate all the hard work you put in for every show with the recent news that pack 12 commissioner. Larry Scott is out after June. What do you get a new commissioner needs to do to return the car off to National relevance clearly as of now in sports that matter that matter. It's clear V out of 5th, and I was wondering if you had any opinions on how to make it better had to make the Pac-12 better. I mean part frankly is that they're in conferences that they're in states that don't like California doesn't care about football Alabama cares about football and legislation back set up. I mean the Forty Niners had to play a game in Arizona Cassandra Clare wouldn't let them play that would never ever happen, Alabama, Florida, Georgia. They care more everybody in the South cares more about I'm sorry everybody in Georgia alone everybody, Alabama alone cares more about football than Oregon Washington that whole West Coast combined. It's it's just that's a problem. I think the fact was always going to be due age. Because of that now the one thing I would do the reason why I picked this question really is because I think they got to move their headquarters from they get their headquarters in downtown San Francisco. The Pac-12 does I've been there. It's a pretty building. It's really pompous and ridiculous. It's way too big. It's the overheads insane. It's a horrible place to live and work the employees don't like it. They don't make enough money to live there happily the Pac-12 needs to move their headquarters to Psalm City in my opinion Salt Lake City. You got a team there the Utah Utes you got its way cheaper. It's got in Utah you have ridiculously good internet the nsa's there. They don't tell you that they are that's why the internet so great throughout the whole state of Utah and man, if you if I in the Pac-12 commission I'm saying we're moving we're picking up ship. We're moving to a different building to make our costs way lower and we're offering everything out of Utah now instead of out of San Francisco, California, cuz it's too expensive and makes no sense. No one. It's just bad. It's horribly run and the Pac-12 has a lot of problems and some of that's cuz of geography some wage. Because of decisions they've made but Larry Scott in my opinion did a pretty bad job as the Pac-12 commissioner and he had good ideas and tried but it he took a lot of missteps. I think tried to Bigfoot to look good and have a great appearance rather than actually producing good stuff week-to-week content-wise. The last question of the day comes from Tyler W. Tyler Tyler says Hey Zach's eyeballs. Have you ever considered hosting a live stream of any games down the road similar to what Tom Grossi and others do I think it'd be fun to watch together and get little insights and cool things at stake out to you while watching hoping the best for y'all. So w Tyler I'd be all right. If I did it'd be fun be cool. I don't really want to do I like my peace. I like taking notes and having food and I don't really want to work like I already work so much. I don't want to work. Also, I'm watching football. It's kind of my moments and relax and actually enjoy the game. What I would do, I would love to be a broadcaster like an official TV or radio broadcaster. I've done that job before I think I'm a pretty good color analyst I pretty good. I think I think I'm asking great at my job. They may give me a play-by-play co-host and let me do color commentary. I think I'm phenomenal with that. I liked it. I would do it for any network that wants me happily. But other than that, man, I I don't want to Do streaming on my own that's sounds like a lot of work not very fun, and I I don't I like watching games in my introverted style and my sweatpants with, you know, good food and my notes and just having a good relaxed time. I don't really want to try to do it on camera that already I'm on camera so much. I don't want to add more to my life doing that way, but hey, maybe we'll reevaluate in five years from now. We'll see, but that's not my thing. I don't want to do that. I'm happy people do it. I'm happy people like it. I don't really get it. It's not my I wouldn't want to do that. So I just I'm good, but I appreciate the thought it's nice to you, and I'm pretty cool. So guys, do ya. Thank you so very much. I appreciate you. I love you. I'm about to record Another podcast with my girlfriend called the Chrome tail, which is home food, which we find. So we're going to we're going to Chick-fil-A and talk about the food in the podcast. My name is Ashton omlor. I love you. I appreciate hope you have great day, but bam we are done.

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Full Show (Mahomes + Brady, Jimmy G, Andy Reid, In Or Out?, Take Your Pick)

First Things First

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Full Show (Mahomes + Brady, Jimmy G, Andy Reid, In Or Out?, Take Your Pick)

"Good morning to walk on first things first. I'm John Wolf. That is nick right. Danny Canal Knell is with us. This morning what's going on Today on Marie grain. We are only two weeks away from the Super Bowl. There are a a ton of storylines to dive into this morning. We're going to start on your corner Nick Right. Kansas City chiefs chiefs are playing for Lombardi trophy for the first time in fifty years. Thanks in large part to that guy right there. Patrick Mahomes and on the homes has been lights out this postseason he did come up just short in the AFC championship game last year against Tom Brady and the Patriots but after that loss Brady reached out to Mahomes with some interesting advice take a listen. The biggest thing that Tom said to me was just to stay with the processing. Keep being who I am And that's that's important as guys had so much excess every every single year. He's been in the. NFL is that he goes up there every single day and he he treats it like like like it's the most important day and so that's something that I'll do for my entire career nick when you look at a guy like Patrick mahomes what he's done so far in such a short amount of time do you think he could eventually overtake Brady. As the greatest of all time I think there is such a fascinating question because at first blush you say well On one side of the ledger. You've got Patrick. Mahomes who I think. A lot of people are already starting to say might be the most those talented physically gifted quarterback checks every box. We've ever seen on the other side. You've got Tom Brady. Whose resume winning resume to go along along with the statistical resume almost assuredly will never be matched and you would say well then no? It's impossible. He has amazing numbers to go along with nine Super Bowl appearances in six championships. No one will ever do that again. That I'm very confident in but does that mean no one could ever through the lens ends of history. Overtake him as the greatest quarterback ever dating. I think it could happen. Because we've seen it happen in another sport Bill Russell title when he retired and more. VP's anybody ever had eleven championships in thirteen seasons. He even had his version of Brady Manning. The Russell Wilt where there was another guy in the same era who a lot of people thought well. He's he should be better than Bill He. He's more physically gifted he can do more four yet. This guy one more. This guy was more well respected by his peers. As far as who the best of the era was and when Bill Russell retired I imagine if these types of shows existed the conversation would have been. Well he will go down in history no matter how long history goes as the greatest every eleven championships his five. MVP's but right now in two thousand twenty. Do you ever your anyone say bill. Russell is the goat even if maybe he should make the argument people say Jordan passed him Lebron past them. Some people say Kareem even magic. Some guys have him outside of the top five so I sailed. Let's say this if Patrick Mahomes wins a handful of rings doesn't have to win six and continues to do things on the field. We've never seen anyone else do. Is it plausible. Is it on the board yet on the board is the less than ten percent chance of course but I can't I can't just dismiss it as impossible because I do think it's impossible. He gets the six championships you know. I think we have to be careful because watching Ching a lot of shows listening to a lot of shows. Yesterday it was almost there was this contest of who could save the most or who could make the most outlandish statement about how how Great Patrick Mahomes is going to be. And I don't WanNa be in that camp and even like now on the fly. I think you make a really good case about why. Hi It's possible and why you could conceive that Patrick mahomes could at some time because you are a hundred percent right. I don't I don't think there's any chance he gets sick. Super herbals or sane and it was the perfect culmination when it all came together with Brady tied with Bela check the mindset which is a very rare just intense focus to sat. You have to make a lot of sacrifices to have as much success the Patriots do. I don't know if Patrick Holmes wants to take that approach where he's going to give up a lot of off seasons give up some money financially. Or if Andy Reid wants to do that at this point in his career so from that standpoint. I don't think it'll ever be matched. There are much like you've you've made the case for Lebron greatest fall time and yet there are some people that will simply refuse to say you know what unless he has six rings he's not greater than Mj. And I think that will be there will always be a camp that falls in that line but just the same way where I do by into your argument. Michael Jordan Changed People's minds because he did things that were so impressive athletically like it was so great when he retired the first time before four six rented chats when he had three rings that statue outside of the United Center said the greatest of all time and no one denied it. Magic had five bird had the same number rings cream had six but it was like. Oh I test. This guy was just better than all those people at some point. The eye test can overcome some of the other thing and I don't think that's a crazy argument. I don't think that's making some I'm hype hyperbolic statement just to come out in strong supportive. Patrick mahomes because we've already seen clearly. He's playing the game differently than anybody. We've seen before in the history of the game including Tom Brady and Tom Brady. And this is where I think Tom Brady. Will struggle ever to become even if you've got a seventh championship inch if you would become the greatest athlete in the history of sports. Because what he does. athletically isn't super impressive right. We've seen other quarterbacks and even in in his prime it's not like he's running away making crazy throws off balance now. It shouldn't take away from his accomplishments. But it's just a different type of conversation worries mahomes. It's like if he gets half of those I think three rings and you start racking up multiple. MVP's then I think it's okay. We can look at this six game changing era defining type of player where all the sudden. Maybe we start looking at Patrick. Mom's insane this kid could be great but the other thing its own president. Tom Brady is what he's done it. Without a boatload of weapons around him year in year out he may have once twice along the way of Randy Moss or something like that he had gronk for a while. But but what we've seen so far from Patrick mahomes while the team isn't paying him a ton of money is that they're able to pour money into all the weapons around. Patrick Mahomes can mahomes do it for a a long time. If he is going to take the two hundred million dollars that they're not gonNA have a ton of money to give to a tyreek hill or to assay walk INS or whoever they're gonNA make as his speed guys which which right now you see Patrick Mahomes at least in the last two years really relies on that part but one of the reasons he has relied on. That part of the game is because he does not have what Brady had I I. Three Super Bowls Does Hall of famers all over on the defense The greatest maybe defensive coach in addition to the greatest coach ever so the the the narrative on Brady that he he hasn't had enough. Help is one. Maybe it was true this year but I think over the tenure of his career. He's been paired with the greatest coach we've ever seen. He he had defenses with Richard Seymour and tie long lawyer Milloy before they got rid of early on he then did have Randy Moss. Maybe the second best for some would argue second-best receive revolt. I'm certainly a top five receiver of all time. He then had the entirety of arguably the greatest tight ends of all time his career with him. So the idea that Brady's been starved of opportunity. And I'm not saying that's what you're saying I he obviously. It's been a long time since the embarrassment of offense of riches Patrick Mahomes has had but he it's also been a very long time. In fact one could argue. He's never had a defense as bad as what Patrick Africa last year. Or maybe even this year like this year the chiefs evens came on strong late with the first. Three quarters of the season was a bottom six defense again. The Patriots events almost never liked that. So it's kind of how you want to win Games and the style points to go along with it. I think there are two biggest issues that could crop up with Patrick mahomes. As far as how he wouldn't overcome or significant obstacles would be one is injury the fact that Brady only missed one season in two thousand eight years is pretty that blows my mind in itself we already. They had packed molten. Patrick Mahomes miss some time this season the other is and this is one thing that I don't the net push back a little bit is how many different rosters Brady. It has been able to bring to a super bowl into this will not the crew here with tyreek Hill and Kelsey and mahomes. I don't think that remains intact attacked with the salary cap for a long long time where you could see that. So if homes can do this with multiple rosters with different weapons that he's working with then then that makes his case which you would have to another component is this. I am curious now that NFL money for these guys is not that dissimilar we're to NBA. Money I am sure is if you don't have more guys saying man. A hard ten is good enough. Absolutely you know what I mean. We're that age thirty two. I won a couple. I believe you if you want a couple of championships won a couple. MVP's if you've made three hundred million dollars if you don't say you don't see NBA guys. Walk away early even though the money so big because the risk of injury is so minute if it's an injury it's going to be a knee ligament and not something that probably GonNa address them to change your life. I do wonder if you're going to the Brady breeze. He's era is also going. The last era of quarterbacks saying let me saving twenty years out of this and that is something that Brady has been able to do it a higher he you want an MVP and his age forty forty season. I think it's a I think any quarterback right now that has recently come into the league is a huge underdog to play their age forty season even if they could just. Because I don't know if the incentives are aligned so there's all those elements right now. I'd say it's a two percenter like there's it's about a one in fifty shot. Brady radio an overwhelming edge and by the way Patrick hasn't even won his first super bowl yet. He's got to wait at least twelve days for that maybe longer. And so but I don't think you can dismiss it say it's an impossibility build d'oro taxes here to help this tax season making tax filing easier for you. They've made it their mission to give you all all the tools and advice you need to get your taxes done with competence like making uploading your W. Two as easy as taking a picture. Just use your phone or tablet to simply snap a picture of your W. Two than watcher information appear in the right place in your tax return. You can be sure your filing your taxes correctly while at at the same time making sure you're getting the best possible refund turbo tax. All people are tax people us onto the forty niners. Now learn the Super Bowl for a number of reasons. Stingy defense hence a stellar rushing attack. Great coaching what. They haven't had to rely too much on is their quarterback in Jimmy G.. Jimmy Garoppolo completed. Just six of eight passes passes for seventy seven yards in the NFC championship game. That is tied for the second fewest passes thrown in a playoff game. All Time Dini how much to the niners actually need from Jimmy G.. They WanNa beat the chiefs. They don't need a lot they really don't. And this is the advantage of having a cost Shanahan system who has is the perfect quarterback for that system and he has engineered a system. That doesn't have your quarterback have to make the type of plays that Patrick Mahomes. This is gonNA have to make. Garoppolo has only gone over three hundred yards passing one time to excuse me three times two of which came against Arizona cardinals like those and then the other one came in the shootout against the saints which was best game as a crow. Literally as exception in the most impressive aspect of that game to me was not the over four yards passing. It was the fourth quarter drive when they were behind and he needed to put the team on his back and he showcased a me a poise and composure. That's at the moment is not too big for me. And that is important important for a quarterback to have especially here now. This clearly is going to be a different stage. He's going to have to be efficient on third downs and in the red zone and then here's where they're going to need him to be a difference maker one or two plays in the Super Bowl for the forty niners to win. Garoppolo is going to have to do something something off the script where you maybe. It's by a split second a little bit extra time. Maybe it's getting out in a scramble. You recognize man in coverage and you get that extra fifteen yards. Maybe it's a play like John. elway had in the Super Bowl where he's the helicopter and he was not a runner but that was a difference making play. You'RE GONNA you're not gonNA need many just one or two from GAROPPOLO and efficient game. That's all they need from him. So I if I understand what you're saying I think that is what the niners hope for the niners. I don't think they can win the super within throwing passes but they certainly hope he doesn't ask throw thirty eight passes. They hope that this is a eighteen of twenty five game for Jimmy. Garoppolo worry makes a couple of big plays like that. They would sign up for that immediately. Especially if those couple of big plays or for his team as opposed to go on the other way for the Kansas City chiefs the last quarter century super bowls tells us when you have this big of a quarterback mismatch. You need that quarterback to step up majorly clearly. If you'RE GONNA win I I went through it before the show because I think everyone would agree. mahomes verse Garoppolo is the biggest mismatch on the field this week. I know that won't be on the field that same time. Steve Steve Young. Burstein humphries team better quarterback one troy Aikman. Neil O'Donnell better quarterback John elway against Chris Chandler. Tom Brady Jake degrom remember that rule rollback an old three peyton manning. Rex Grossman the only time in the last quarter century. We've had this type of quarterback mismatch and the inferior quarterback one was nick. Nick foles over. Tom Brady and that was nick. Foles was coming off the best game of his season in the NFC championship game. Three fifty three touchdowns one forty rating and then maybe trump that in the super bowl throwing for three seventy and three touchdowns being a part of the phillies special. Doing all of that. I there isn't a lot of precedent for the niners saying we're going to try to just have our quarterback be a be a supporting character and then being able to win. There's a lot of pressing zimper teams going into the Super Bowl thing. That's our plan. I know that was the rex. Grossman bears planned. Let's have special teams games. Defense game all these things but they. You didn't do enough to win those games. And so I think for the niners to beat the chiefs. They don't need Garoppolo to outplay. Patrick Mahomes but they need he'd Garoppolo to play far better than we've seen him play in the postseason obviously and they need him to at least give them a B. Plus level performance. Because I don't think think I think I don't think the titans old the chiefs under thirty five. I don't think the niners can hold him under twenty eight. So how do you get around thirty points for San mm Francisco if the chiefs aren't turn the ball over a bunch like Green Bay. Then you're going to have to do more through the air than they were able to do in the conference championship game agree. I hear your point. But there have have been other quarterbacks who have been quote game manager role and one super bowls. But you're saying the quarterback disparity in those games. When Trent dilfer wins with the Ravens it's Kerry Collins Right and it did so there wasn't Kerry Collins? MVP type player on the other side. Exactly Right Brad. Johnson Rich Gannon. I get in played well but he was an MVP conference one once in his career. But I still think people didn't look at it as such a massive disparity as we're seeing right and this one clearly is that I would say yeah I would say you could bump up what was your. What would you say? Fifteen of two thousand eighteen eighteen of twenty five fifteen of twenty five. I think you could both that up a little bit. I don't think they would be opposed to thirty five live attempts. I just don't think you can get more than thirty five out of them because he did do it with drew brees and in in the super bowl which was pretty impressive. But that's not the the type of game you could rely on but I do think it should be at least a little bit comforting. If you're a forty niners fan and at least we did that once. But I don't think you can get in the shootout and hope hoped to your your chances of winning dramatically reduced the more times Garoppolo has to throw the football chiefs because Shannon showed that. He's not afraid to just keep running the ball and I think that could possibly be the game play. Moving forward doesn't not need to rely on Jimmy Garoppolo. Well I think it's very I don't want to say easy but I I think it's easier to continue the football a when you're gashing the other time for seven yards a carry but be when the other team has multiple first-half turnovers and you're playing from ahead and I think you saw the titans who had a running back that was on good of eight game. Run as we've ever seen in this league get scared out of running the football. The moment moment the chiefs took the lead after go up double digits. They went up by four and they scared the titans out of their game plan because they were I know in the back of their head. They're like man. You and keep scorn keep scoring now. Of course this game changes have Nikki comes round trip sex mahomes and they jump out and play their style of game mahomes around playoff turnover. The super will be one hell of a time for that streak to end. And so that's the question who's terms. Is this game to be played and clearly the forty niners GonNa want to dictate those terms early and often but I thought one of the most underrated aspects of the game was andy. Reid when they had the lead was like all right. You Guys WanNa slow play. This game will slow. Play it and we'll start. Start running the football. I mean they had unprecedent stretch. They're running at four or five row ahead of you did but it was actually really smart because I think the titans started depress a little bit said man that clock because running. We have to start getting more aggressive because the time is running out on us that was a brilliant aspect and plus they were rushing three and drop eight so it was like. Hey we're darren you run and they did. It's a new year. The perfect opportunity to take your business to the next level by hiring the right people but finding qualified candidates can be challenging ziprecruiter dot com slash F. T. 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One of only eight coaches coaches in. NFL history with two hundred wins but the only one that matters to him now is the next one which would be his first ever super bowl win his star tight tight end travis. CALC- has his back though. I love to read man. He's he's definitely a part of the motivation you know. We're we're sitting here. And what the what the the media says about him how he can't get the big one done You know what we We went off the list. Got The Lamar Hunt Trophy back here in Kansas City for the hunt family and and you know where we stood out more to will more go to knock off the list make. What do you think is super bowl? Win for Andy Reed's legacy oh I mean he need to me clearly becomes the second best coach of this generation of from two thousand and two now the last twenty years I of course. Yes yes obviously well behind bill. The only one coach has other than Bell Check Multiple Rings in the last twenty years. Tom Coughlin I read is actually better coach than Tom. Tom Coughlin but it's hard to make the case when Tom's to Andy's got none. But Tomlin's got one McCarthy at one you know what I mean you go down the list. Holmgren who coached in the ninety S I and thousands as the one championship. It's it's hard to find a coach that would have a better resume if they win this championship. He Don. I'm sure George Halas Bill Belichick. Tom Landry curly. Lambeau that's the full list of coaches with more wins than Andy Reid with a higher winning percentage they need to read. It's just those five guys. One guy's got a field named after one guy got the iconic at bell checks. The Goat Shula the undefeated season hallow's also got a field named after the those are. That's the Mount Rushmore coaches plus one and he's the next guy statistically on that list I'm not saying sixth-graders coach ever but put a super bowl championship mint him as a no doubt hall of fame coach and validate what has been a C- a career. Danny Twenty one years coaching in fourteen. Fifteen playoff appearances. Fourteen double digit win seasons only three losing seasons just a stellar resume with the one. Yeah but that could be erased in twelve died. I think I might have said yesterday. He's a hall of Famer even without the super bowl taking that back. I might take that back because we're looking doing some research before you look how small the list of coaches in the hall of fame is and it's and it's just one of the things that frustrates me. The most in today's sports conversation. How much chew need the championship to cement the legacy to cement your reputation and as much as I appreciate Travis Kelsey getting out in front of it and saying hey? I'm tired of hearing people say that if if you want to change the narrative you actually have to change the narrative by proving people wrong in actually getting the win because unfortunately people won't appreciate the consistency with with which one which might be more impressive than a lot of coaches in the hall of fame when you consider the fifteen out of twenty one years. That is impressive. Is Insane the the consistency with which you're getting your team in a position to win there if he wins this one. It's a lock though and you know what his best argument is as saying. Bill Cower just just got in why would not. He's got well over. Fifty more wins than him. He would have equaled the Super Bowl. Total net your greatest case as saying well if he got in you have after put me in and he would so I think super bowl cements it. I don't think if he leaves it out. I think the narrative continues as unfair as it may be. It's just what we do and the shorts lexicon now but just quickly because when we talk about Andy Reid especially as the season gets closer to the end we always talk about end of game mismanagement with a time. When we talk about the monkey off Andy tweets back? We never talk about why. He's such an incredible coach. Just give us a line or to the case for Hale Will Hall of fame right now the the case where right now is the fifteen team playoff appearances fourteen double digit win seasons which is insane. He's got five years. He was one in the playoffs but he's got four years. He Won Multiple Playoff Golf Games. So to me. Those almost cancel each other out but the biggest non-playoff cases this. He's one of the greatest of innovators in the history of the sport. He he what he has done and he has not always had Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. Right he got the chiefs of by with Alex Smith. He Donovan mcnabb. It was a very good quarterback. He got the absolute most out of Donovan. mcnabb he has been able to do at in with multiple quarterbacks in multiple situations. I think you saw this year. They want it. They beat a playoff team with Matt Moore quarterback in a game where the deepens wasn't it's not like they held onto three points he the way he plays the way. His players adore him the way he is just one of the greatest offensive line. We've ever seen that's the case absent of the coaching tree. If you look under impressive and it should be attitude with me. I'll just leave that out percents so on March eighteenth. Tom Brady will do something. He's never done in his twenty year career. He'll become an unrestricted free agent. Meaning he will have full control control over the next line on his. NFL resume and when asked about this Brady said he was quote open-minded about playing for a team. Other than New England. Danny think I think the Patriots Need Tom Brady more than he needs. The New England patriots is a great question. I think it's really really hard to answer. I'm going to say a a brady needs the patriots more than the Patriots need him because the Patriots have forever right as long as the. NFL exists they have they can can start over and they can take a year or two and they've had so much success now Bella check is getting older but you still if he wants to. He could coach another ten years easily. Belgium spell checks got more time as an elite head coach. His Greatest Brady is. It's I think Peyton manning this may be one of the most impressive things. He did his point and his career was to go somewhere else with Denver. And all of a sudden just you know win another MVP and start another super bowl and just keep keep the thing rolling if you go somewhere else in your Tom Brady. And it's a totally new cast. It's a totally new locker room environment. Because I think Brady fits perfectly. It's perfect marriage and I think it's one of the reasons bell check has has been able to keep up. This high intensity high pressure high expectation. It's our way or the highway. The Patriot way. You can go somewhere else. I don't know in today's player now. There will be an instant respect for Brady in the locker room but that stuff gets old. I mean how many players we leave the Patriots. Say I wasn't a lot of fun and it is great eight to win but on some players it rubs them the wrong way and they can't do it. I don't know if that travels as well as Tom Brady. May think it does and then you combine that with how how hard it is to implement a new system. Does he have the right offensive. Lineman does he have the right weapons around him as their defense. All of those so I would say brady needs the patriot. Well I do wonder if Brady would want that to travel title or wouldn't say after twenty years boot Fan. I wouldn't mind a little summer camp. You know what I mean. I wouldn't mind a little more of a lax environment and it's not like the Patriot. Way Wins is all the super bowls. It's one more than anyone else. But we did see the eagles who had a little more lax environment only win the Super Bowl. One is to rule beating the Patriots. But the question JANAE neither need meet each other anymore was in. The kids are in college. The House is paid off. You've grown apart. It's time to move on for the best for the for the better part of all parties like that's that's listen. The Nets were. That's where I I don't think so. I think they need each other. And they'll come to that realization wants the death settles and Brady shops around and the the Patriots look at the draft options are look at free agent options there. They're going to come back see idol. I think there's a strong case to be made for them staying together other than install Java other than we feel like man Brady should be a patriot and the Patriot quarterback Tom Brady because right now. The Patriots need to massively Lee Retool on offense I believe they need a massive reach belt. It will rebuild when you've got when you've got Belgium because you're coaching even even to the level that it is and you play in the east where you're six wins and I know Buffalo's coming and Brady needs. He needs weapons any needs respect and the lack of back from whoever's going to employ him. I thought what happened. This off season was one of the most. It was the most those flagrant instance of disrespect since Jerry Krause and REINSDORF Jerry. Krause pardon me with the Bulls said to Michael Jordan a e win or lose final year. This were breaking this thing apart. And what did Jordan say said BLEEP. You all leave and everyone left. And then he by the way Jordan still wanted to keep playing and we know that because he came back from the wizards but it was brady and just one of his six super bowl. He was a year removed from winning his third league. MVP He had gone to three consecutive super bowls and he said more soup lease and they said Nope. Get the hell out of here with that and when you look at the money. I don't think the Patriots are going to want. Did they didn't WANNA pay him. Twenty five plus million this past off season when he was coming off a better year with the team was coming off a better year and I just want the audience understand what twenty five million means in the NFL. These days in Twenty Twenty Russ Been Golf. Rogers Wins Ryan Mahomes into Sean incorporating. They're extensions are all north of thirty. Derek Carr Matt Stafford Jimmy Garoppolo Kirk cousins drew. brees assuming he comes back and Dak Prescott. What they're all north of twenty five? So I've now listed fourteen quarterbacks Alex Smith Joe flacco Nick Foles Cam Newton on an expiring deal or all north of twenty so now. We're at eight eighteen quarterbacks. That's everybody that's the holy of the rookies and guys like Philip rivers or Jameis Winston. I didn't who don't have contracts right now. So if the Patriots come to Brady who made twenty three million this year after making fifteen million each of the previous two years and offer them the the same salary so he is looking up at Joe. FLACCO looking up at Alex Smith. Looking with Nick foles. I would feel incredibly doubly disrespected if I were him. I would not stand for it and he shouldn't but what happened to the narrative of Brady always plays for less because he wants weapons around like. When did that change all the sudden? When did it become come disrespectful season it did it absolutely changed this off season which I'm a little bit curious by? I think he will realize again. Maybe it's better to play for a little bit less. And why because I don't think they have to retool. I think there are three pieces away. An offensive lineman tight end and wide receiver to add to that mix. I don't think it's a complete re hole. But if they can do that and he takes takes a little bit less and he doesn't mind looking because you can be looking at a seventh ring. Then I think it's a different conversation two points as quickly one is one thing. Take a little bit less right. It's another thing to be. The twenty-first paid quarterback in the League in thirty two team League. And if you come to me Danny and not that you ever would. But just as a for instance say nick. It's embarrassing. I'm in a bad spot. Can't make the kids tuition payment this year. Can you spot me some money and loan you the money. And then you the I I find out the kids are in public school. And you've got a new bins. I'm of the angry by gave money patriots to give me weapons and you gave me. Who Matt Lacoste? Mohamed Mohamed. Sanu on a on a cheap deal. You traded for Brandin cooks and I loved him and we made a super bowl together and you're traded him away because you didn't WanNa pay him so the money I mean giving them by Dinky would argue has not been spent the way he would have been led to believe it would be spent. I think the thing that Patriot fans do not wanna see. It's Tom Brady. Go somewhere else. Or maybe they do and they don't even make the playoffs and then it adds really day in that Brady or the Patriots. Definitely Brady I think Patriots fans I think fans ending football apple fans. Don't want to see him. Go somewhere else and then come up shy and then have you boys. But that's her career right. He whatever whatever he wants back here first things first now joined by three times super bowl head coach Arianne gene. It's good to our you know thank you. You're right. We don't celebrate that. Go now. Say that every every time because you don't come in and flaunt the rings and the accolade you don't throw your resume made all of us when you sit down. That's when we love about people do they don't need to flaunt it. Oh my gosh. Exchange recipes every single. was I ever had a real job. Make believe work my whole life time. I'm now for your prime performance sponsored by whole foods market. Whatever makes you whole Patrick Mahomes as made the chiefs whole this past season? Six hundred fifteen passing passing yards eight touchdowns zero interceptions and while the niners have one of the best defense in the league. Stopping mahomes is still a tall order. Nick to the the niners have enough to overcome mahomes greatness. If he will I mean absolutely the if I say no that means I think the niners have no shot in the super bowl and I might damn. We'll pick the niners. The niners are terrifying. The niners defensive front is the antidote to what the chiefs do eighties. I understand soon defensive system or are you smirking which is funny you you. It's almost like you're you're you're worried about picking the forty minutes because that'll affect some sort of cosmic loaf those things even any of that stuff just just but I am sometimes my own detriment a true student of history and I remember one of my in a time when I had just graduated from college I had I had no money whatsoever and one of the still to this date one of my biggest gambling losses in my life was theo seven pets. How can they lose? It's the most dominant offense I've ever seen. It's a quarterback of the peak of his powers Plus Randy Moss plus the crush. Everyone oh I'm supposed to worried about Justin Talk Okay and then. I watched a team with a stray handed. Obviously these guys strains hall of Famer a team say I will the way we stop your passing attack is we have seven guys win. Throughout the season teams have had six or five. It's like we're playing with twelve or thirteen men. Because because we can create the pressure other teams create by sending extra men or blitz is with just four people and then I saw him do it again. Four years later later with a very similar system. I think this defensive front is better than what those giants hat. They'd certainly has more. Maybe I'm too high. I own the or just raw talent but the guys Nikki Bosa and his fellow monsters like in so if this is a game where Patrick. It doesn't have time where they finally some team for the first time ever does. What coach has been imploring teams to do for two years where they don't let him escape where they keep keep him in the pocket and all of a sudden? It's a low scoring ish game and into going to be about the chiefs stopping the niners rushing attack. That's scary and so the niners niners defense and that front four coach can be the ultimate equalizer more so than if you had three hall of fame guys in your secondary that I think is easier to overcome com then a dominant front four pass rush look view three hall of fame players on one side of the ball regardless of where you are. You're going to be pretty good. Defensive Line does has created a lot of issues for people and the one thing about the forty niners approach. So it's not just rushing with four this quite a bit of blitzing. That's mixing there as well that that Patrick going to have to to sort out. But he has shown the ability to make people pay for blitzing. He's shown the ability to make people pay for not having gap Bend Lane Integrity. And when you watch the forty niners rush. There are plenty of examples. Where quarterbacks have the chance to scramble and extend plays and I think that's that's that's gotta be the starting point whether you can do it in the biggest game of the year if you haven't done it all season long it's hard? It takes a lot of discipline in in a very intense moment to be able to get done. Do they have enough to to be Kansas City. Yeah of course they do. They have plenty of things that they can do. And and I'd say the starting point over. Kansas City still has to be not beating themselves. We have not seen that aspect of it in two games and that to me is my biggest concern for you as you sit at home and watch the game you you having your moment spoiled by someone jumping off sides someone having illegal contact on third and twenty two someone someone jumping in for part return and muffing it on the tenure. Take your pick of things that that to me is got to be the starting point. And hopefully you won't be looking at and we won't be looking at this game as the one that Kansas City threw away championship. Amy Jo game that would I You how many times I brought up D. Ford lining up offsides a thousand times. WHO's exactly what you're talking about? It totally unforced unneeded air. They absolutely have enough to overtake the chiefs. They have to go out and do it. Through to your point about the giants versus Patriots. That was a double digit game. One weren't the thirty eight point. Yeah Yeah I mean that was so even Vegas was not giving them any credit. This game is much more evenly matched and I do think the forty niners have a formula that has worked this this season against the chiefs if it was the titans had it for a half. But the Colton Texans back to back weeks and they were not as talented on either side of the ball as this forty niners team were able to dominate the time of possession to limit the amount of times. Patrick Mahomes can actually touch the football and go out there and make all those crazy plays. They just showed the ability to axe absolutely annihilated team on the offensive side of the ball to into only require their quarterback to throw it eight times. They've I've got a former. I don't think they can replicate that exact performance. I absolutely think they could get enough out of their offense where they can play. Keep away a little bit. And if you you find yourself in a game like the last two or the chiefs have been down by double digits. At some point you play with fire enough. You're GONNA get burned. Because can the chiefs have another way of winning. If you contain Patrick Mahomes if they can slow down if they can throw them off they get any. We're going to go back to letting them run the ball more than we saw last week. Oh I think the only Patrick doesn't have a good game. The only chance. The chiefs have is if Garoppolo makes massive mistakes but the problem is Patrick. Isn't having a good game. Shannon is going to put the gaming Garoppolos hands and so the I mean is there a scenario. McColl hardman has a kick return touchdown. And there's there's other reasons the chiefs get ahead shore but those are all one mm percenters th the go ahead I give. Kyle's so much credit last game for his willingness to stick to the Ron. There are not many coaches head coaches especially offense awesome minded head coaches young head coaches. That would have the willingness to do that but to me that showed me a level of discipline that that that I really respect. Here's what's so terrifying. If you're a coach against this chiefs team you can say well. If mahomes is having a bad game he still you know in the back of your mind. He's still can put up four touchdowns in one quarter like he did in the second quarter gets the Texans so I think that's always has to be in there where you can't just go on your four-minute offense at the start of the second. Have you still have to keep in the back of your mind. That's always in there. And that can be really tempting and I think it absolutely burned the the titans because they did get away from that and then they saw the reality and they were starting to chase it way too soon. I think Shanahan will stick to the run longer but it's still such a temptation because you know how dangerous they are no matter how bad things look all right. Let's stick with the chiefs who were playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in fifteen years. Thanks in large part that I number fifteen patrick mahomes and mahomes has been lights out this postseason. He did come up just short in the AFC championship game last year against Tom Brady and the Patriots but after that loss Brady reached out to Mahomes with some interesting advice take a listen. The biggest thing. That's that Tom said to me was just stay with the process. And keep being who I am. And that's that's important as guys had so much excess every single year. He's been in the. NFL is that he goes up there every single day. Any any treats it like like like like it's the most important day and so that's something that I'll try to do for my entire career. Nikki mahomes could eventually overtake Brady. As the greatest of all time I think it'd be foolish to say it's impossible. I the the only thing that will say I find to be impossible. Implausible is that anyone ever wins more super bowls or goes two more super bowls as a starting quarterback. Tom Brady did. It was as you said earlier. Dance the perfect storm coach quarterback organization tation some spectacular defensive coaches particularly early in the era. Great team. All around all of it that and some amazing fortune which you have to have in order to win when these things I know people talk about the helmet catch going against them but the the the you know the Tuck rule game that the different things that have happened that have helped them not handing off after marching inland to the goal line. Those things that led to it. No one's ever going to duplicate that. So in order to become the goat you have to get seven rings. The enters no. But I don't think you do because we have seen this happen in sports history before Bill Russell when he retired had more than anyone in NBA history had more championships than any organization organization in NBA history and won eleven titles in thirteen seasons. He had his version of Peyton manning that he went up into repeatedly wilt chamberlain. The guy who people thought. Oh he's probably more talented than I can do more but he always one and Russell when he retired. The thought was was the greatest player we will ever see and then multiple guys is have passed him despite not equaling his. MVP's Lebron doesn't have more MVP's and Bill Russell Lebron's got four despite not even coming close to his championships. Michael has six championships. Amazing Russell got eleven but the eye test the ability to do everything and just the gut feeling of why just think this guy was was better was enough to overtake the Rawal Ring Count. So is it possible. Yes what would it take a decade plus of Patrick playing at this level winning four super bowls currently zero and Marius. Ross winning winning three more league. MVP currently has one like all those things would have to happen. And so it's not likely it's not my pick but I can't dismiss it as a possibility coach. I think the difference between great and greatness is consistency. And and and that's what Tom was talking about with. Patrick is the process. And when you become more famous when you become wealthier when you have that success can you be the same guy that you were the guy the place that that put you in that position and it's it's really hard to do because there's so much pressure to to to do different things things and it's hard to wake up the same way with that same hunger. But that's what Tom has been able to do. So in order to to be to catch his greatness he's going to have to have that consistency over a very long period of time and we talked about a little bit of the perfect storm New England wise. There's a perfect rick storm in Kansas City. Wise you've got excellent coach. WHO's one without Patrick? Okay One with Alex Smith. We've got two unbelievable offensive weapons when he came into. You've got a guy who's WHO's very mobile and as we talk about the future. Tom Losing his mobility. That didn't affect anything. That was never part of his game. Patrick if he loses mobility due to age and time I think that's going to have more of an effect on his game so can he ever catch him of of course someone's going to catch him because this great athletes that come up every every generation you wanNA look at it. We're always saying no one will ever catch pets. This person and then someone catches that person. Could Patrick be that guy. He's shown a lot of a lot of traits and just like Tom Show traits early in his career. Now the question is is he gonNa be great or is it going to have greatness and he had that consistency to make that joke. I'm not GonNa lie when I saw this topic I was like Oh no this is going to be annoying coming because I don't think it's too early and there was a contest yesterday. When you watch nationally the conversation it was who could make the strongest case that Patrick Mahomes says he's going to be better to be better than Brady He? He's going to be more impressive than Michael Jordan was for the NBA. And it's like well. He he played baseball could be the best baseball. It's like you just all these accolades kept coming in. People tried to magnify how radius so I was annoyed from that. I don't think there's any chance he gets six ranks and there will be some people who will refuse just the same way they will ever refuse to acknowledge that Lebron is closing on. MJ Not that he's there yet but he's closing on Mj. There are just some people like myself self. That are stubborn that would say no championships matter but I think you brought up a really interesting case that before. MJ There was Bill Russell and there was wilt chamberlain. There were other players who were in the conversation for greatest of all times create completely left out of the conversation now because of yes the championships which he was able to get close to but he never passed Bill Russell but because of the way he played the game and I think when People Watch Patrick Mahomes you look at him and say this guy is different than anybody. We've seen it before the way. He plays his arm talent. Maybe the strongest we've seen in the history of the game. His running ability is not. He's not Michael Vick. He's not Lamar Jackson. You know but he can run and make plays with that combination of talent that we haven't seen before and you WanNa talk like Jordan came on the scene and he was the dunk champion. He had signature sure moves. He had signature shots. Patrick Mahomes and year three already has no look passes which we haven't seen before he's had left handed passes which we haven't seen before and he's got these runs like like he had yesterday. which on a highlight reel and shallow as it might seem those matter? When you start accumulating those types of highlight highlights? They start to enter you in that conversation. I'm just very impressively to to yesterday. Be Annoyed People. Praise on someone attorney for they've done anything and and I feel like we had this conversation all the time and the dry you know. We're moving to draft coverage and this guy's once in a generation talent this one. He's he's guys talents that we've never seen before. And there's always these quarterbacks come in and say he's got the skill sets that we he's changing the game changing. Oh okay okay. Let's with the pump. The brakes a little bit but nic patch MOMS is going to take a hometown discount. The Way Tom Brady did and they're going to have to pay weapons around him him to do it and yes. Tom Brady. Had multiple weapons of multiple rosters. Is that something that you could see Patrick mahomes doing. Could he be that successful. If he doesn't have the the all these toys they're going to have Kelsey Anhil for the next few years then I don't know if they'll stay at this level but they're going to have those guys for the next few years. McCall Hardiman you guys mentioned. He's a rookie contract correct. For the next four seasons they they brought me has done a really good job of seeing this extension coming so I don't think all of a sudden they're gonNA have to strip it down you're right. He's not gonNA take a hometown discount. Count any damn shirt. Shouldn't they credit for Brady. Because that's what he wanted to do. After in two thousand ten he became the highest paid player in the League. We all forgetting happened happened. It absolutely happened. And then he started taking into his career wool coats on hold on hold on a second. He also Sony wait a second Brady prior to twenty ten. It's the highest paid player in the League because of where he was drafted and because they paid him early. And when you pay a guy early he takes the money early because he hadn't made the money and the team gets a discount now later in his career he obviously. He's taken massive discounts in order to try to build the team around him. And Maybe fifteen years Patrick will do the same thing. I don't know what I do know. Is this if he wins in in two weeks it is the greatest I two years as a starter of any player at any position. Ever I know that a league. MVP followed followed by the right. Now is statistically the greatest post-season passers for his quarterback rating ever if they win the Super Bowl and the one playoff off loss. He has is to the goat in overtime when he had to. Fourth quarter comebacks. Never got to touch the ball. It's the greatest I two years ever. That's not getting ahead of ourselves. That is where we orwell where we would be in twelve days. That's that's what's on the line for him and that's the path that one would have to walk on his. You can't even pick them to win the Super Bowl. I was so I box is the most hog legal player to ever ever put. The Game Danny came inky has just two hundred eight passing yards yards in the niners to wins combine. This season. They might need more than that. A chance against the chiefs team averaging forty three points in the playoffs so Dana you win around on Jimmy able able to carry the niners to a super bowl win. I'm in I think in this is a lot of part. This is a trust and if Collin Fan John Lynch trusted enough to build him this franchise guys around him. That I'm going to trust that. He can they can help. Elevate him to the next level but we've also seen him do it before it is no easy task to go into New Orleans against drew. brees go toe to toe for him to need a drive to win the game in the fourth quarter and he does it. I think it's I think their game plan clearly would be. Let's try to steer away from. I'm not but if necessary I think could be Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah I agree with you. I think it's intimate as well. And when you look at his body of work over the course of the season so a lot of good numbers. There's a lot of good football. There's a lot. There's a lot of impressive things that he did. He does have a make. Something Happen Element to home. Where quarterback sometimes you make something happen for you and sometimes you make something? It happened for them so he'd have to limit those those critical mistakes for onto carrot eight. I'm out I that is not me saying I'm out on the niners ability when the game but if this becomes is Jimmy Garoppolo game they lose the they cannot win this game on the arm of Jimmy Garoppolo. They're going to have to win this game on the backs of their defense and in the running running game if he hasn't throw the ball thirty five plus times they're going to lose this football game all so I'm excited for the Super Bowl narrative as quite popped up yet whereas the bears there's taken trubisky over mahomes. The niners traded that pick. They got the third pick. They didn't have Jimmy G. yet. They needed a quarterback. They took Solomon Thomas who's probably been the least productive active. All those first round defensive Lineman when they needed a quarterback they could add MOMS or Watson on a much cheaper contract maybe even better team they have right now so I'm out. Oh for a number of her. That could have gone all the way back and taken Aaron Rodgers to true you know that narrative will exist onto Dez Bryant. Now he hasn't hasn't played in the NFL since two thousand seventeen but he is lobbying for return to the cowboys he tweeted. Give me the Whitton roll any you win around on Dallas signing. Ain't as Brian. I'm and bring them in see if he's healthy. Give them a chance. He's only thirty one years old. I think we forget that. Sometimes I know he's been out of the League for two years but but his position I don't think it's that crazy to think he can come back and get in football shape learn the system. It's a different coach with Mike McCarthy so I think you give him that. Least there's clearly. There's it's a better relationship than it was a bad relationship with Jason Garrett so why not bring it in. Yeah I'm out sometimes. When you have a break up you can be a little bit nostalgic about the person who broke up with there was a lot of stuff there that didn't work and try to to try to reinvigorate that? I think it's it's better. Just move on Yeah. I'm in I think. A lot of the beef there was with Garrick. Garrett's now gone. Also I do like the idea of having the exact Jason witten role meaning tight end. How does put on a little bit away? They need in tight end spot a little pass catching tight end saving blocking a bit but it is. Brian he was a decent blockers are wide receiver. Listen if Jason if the cowboys are into given jobs the guys who are way past their prime which they did with whitten. Why can't get on? That train. Does would not be less productive as a number three wide receiver than whitten was as one of their tight ends. I'm in give it a shot. Ah How that works. Mike McCarthy's doesn't have enough on his plate. Bring it's low risk. Lima Pam Minimum. See how he is. He how he gets in our reports that the bengals roles have already decided they'll take Lsu quarterback joe borough with the first overall pick a cow ever a bengals exempt disputed that report dating las Q.. U. Wayne around Attleboro being the number one pick in the NFL draft. I am in coach. He's the greatest possible act we've seen generating no but I will say this I mean Cincinnati Bengals need a quarterback. He's the best quarterback available. I know chase young from Ohio. State is attractive. But we've the tendency tendency we've seen over the past decade or fifteen years has been that teams overdraft quarterbacks. I think there's a greater chance to talk of a low of move all the way up to two or three as well all because teams get desperate. They say we find a guy that we like. We're going to take them. I think the team is GonNa Fall in love. He's from there all the aspects when you look at the film there's not much negative Yvonne. This year's film. I think they're all I think it's done deal. So most coaches were on vacation after the season and now they're kind of getting back in the office getting back into routine going. Listen to the senior bowl and now things with draft start changing dramatically so whatever narrative there it is right now in terms of where players are is going to be so dramatically different than the. I'll go in on this. Because it has a little bit of a Bernie Kosar feel to it. I liked the story of him. Be You know. His Dad coaching in Ohio at Ohio. You and Athens him being the player of the year thing that that whole part of it and makes it a really nice story to go with a team. That's in need and look what he did. And the playoff ron was impressive. So uh-huh go ahead look at. They're going to take him number one overall. I would wager any amount of money on that but I wouldn't so I'm out I think two is the pig I think two is going to be better. I understand our major injury concerns with to a tool can be a star quarterback in the NFL. I think Joe Borough can be a good quarterback maybe end up in New England. I think that would be. He'll learn one year one year behind Brady and then it'll take over with that. Would I if knew it. I'm Tony Marino. The Patriot ended up DOT COM com. Tour I am going to lose my mind that would mean the dolphins have passed on him. And no there's no today Satan in the paper not even talking about it. I don't think it'll be extremely out of character for them to trade all the way up to get him in the top five to get this this past. They drafted a wide receiver. And he hadn't done that in twenty years. So WHATSAPP LOVES SAVES ALREADY ALREADY STANDS FOR A year. He called me said he wanted to make your morning if he's drafted by the Patriots won't won't go around rundown Erica. Take your pick. Starting with a cross sport question. Pat Mahomes homes is going. I first ring to go along with his. MVP Lebron has three titles and four MVP. Who Do you think is more valuable to the routine? Mahomes James or Lebron Danny take go super fast because I just WanNa get to Nick's answer because I can't wait to see where it goes. I think this is easy and a lot of its position. QUARTERBACK is the most important Gordon position in all of sports. If you take the Bra off the Lakers they can still go to the playoffs. And make a really deep run with Anthony Davis with the chiefs. If that batch of Mahomes is not on that I team. They're not anywhere near as good probably miss the playoffs. It's Lebron without a doubt. It's Lebron when Lebron was there and they want he left they lost and he came back and they want any left Kansas City. They were winning before. Patrick mahomes out there. There's still winning now. EAT is hands down. Alan Lebron I I WANNA make this very clear. I'm very irritated with the producers for putting this in the show it's an unfair position to put me and the only way way to make any harder somehow throw tiger woods in there as well and you've got my three favorite athletes potentially ever but coaches right that the you remove either one of them there and it sounds colors is right the answers Lebron. And here's what you remove. Either one of them. Their teams can't win a championship. That that's very clear but the chiefs did win multiple told divisions with Alex Smith WHO's not a superstar quarterback but with Andy and those weapons. They were a good team. Lebron's Cleveland he leaves the heat from four straight finals. uh-huh appearances two out of the playoffs. Cleveland happened to him twice the before he gets to the Lakers. They're the worst team in the League for six years. You say they'd go deep playoff run with just Anthony Davis. Pelicans never were able to do that so I know the answers as much as I love Patrick. The answers Lebron James. He's the most valuable person in all of teams gathered. Devaluing valuing the imports of quarterback. Nobody's quarterback equivalence superstar. I had a good point. I forgot. Yeah that's right back by. Oh so many of these quarterback does. Brian says he wants to return to the cowboys. Jason Witten type of role last year Dez was signed by the saints but he tore his Achilles in practice. ACTUS WHO's a better fit for desnick season Dallas or New Orleans. Danny take your pick first of all. It's what does I hope he gets that opportunity. I was out of the League for two years and got another opportunity. And that's all he's looking for a chance to compete. I hope he gets it because it is really a tough realization to come to especially when you're only thirty one years left and you still like you still have some something to give to the sport. I think the better fit is the saints. I think the cowboys should give an opportunity. But I think the saints are the better fit. Sean Payton already brought them in once was willing to take that risk and unfortunately had the Achilles injury these healthy though I think Peyton is more willing. He's a little bit more creative a little bit more open minded. I would say the Mike McCarthy as far as finding a role where you can actually actually use Dez Bryant where I think it might be a little bit more challenging for Mike McCarthy. I agree with you I. I love a Comeback Story and I'd love for a guy to get an opportunity but I don't know if I'd be lobbying with I want the Jason Witten type role if you think that. That role is an underachieving role. That's a hard sell for an organization. I'd say the fit prize better in new New Orleans than it is in Dallas. Just because he could go in and play some type of smaller impact for world. I don't think he's going to have a big impact anywhere so I'm rooting for Dallas. Because there's more refund for us I think more add more uncertainty that locker room desert of a live wire. I just like to see Oh plays out. I don't think he's even a five hundred yard receiver at this point anyway but Whitton didn't have to be to for him to get his job back. Let's see the cowboys make. He was trying to say. I'll play a role I don't need to be the wide receiver was asking for more catches. I think that was his point. More so than tight ends also have to block pretty good blocker eighty read. There's one of the best coaches in. NFL history without a super bowl ring on the other side. Kyle Shanahan in first super bowls head coach. So who would you rather have on your sideline in Super Bowl. Fifty four read or Shanahan and take your pick. I think it's fairly easy. You always have to lean on experience in this place and Andy. Reid has been in this position before and I know cows. How's been there as an offensive coordinator but it's a whole nother ballgame when you are the head coach? And even though call has some very experienced minds that he can pick in and pick their brains and Mike Shanahan and John John Lynch. You gotta go with Andy Reid. The consistency with which he's been in this position in the playoffs. No one like you gotta go Andy Reid Yeah. I'd lean the same way we with Andy as well just just because the experience and when you go to the first time there's so many unknowns and you make mistakes because of the moment and at the time of the game and all the different things that the the after really experienced a to understand so if we're going to go go slight Dandy because of of what he has this slightest edges and I and I really like Andy Andy Reid and I think he has a hall of fame resume even maybe if they don't win the Super Bowl but I think you make a very strong case right now the second best coach in the NFL. You may make same as for Andy by the way I and so again. This is not a knock on Andy at all. I think these are the two best offensive lines and football. Kyle hasn't shown me the propensity for the late game. mm-hmm the clock management challenge issues. That Andy has that always concerned me a bit so again. We're we're picking amongst is some of the greatest doing it right now but nine kyle. Shanahan is the coach. A lot of people acted like Sean McVeigh was Louis. I think he actually Sean mcvay. What was the player the Super Bowl the time roll through those pretty quick the genius mad scientist? There's through genius genius as an ample head coach guy sitting next to a king. This is great this morning. New New Year. Thank you for listening to the first things first. PODCAST remember. Leave us a review and tell us what you think. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple podcasts. Goss and catch us on Monday through Friday. Six Thirty A._M. Easter.

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NFL hires, Playoff Matchups, Steelers' culture, KD caliber

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

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NFL hires, Playoff Matchups, Steelers' culture, KD caliber

"Bigger yourself. I'm Jason Whitlock Marcellus Wiley dead. Do they're coming up. We'll tell you Dak Prescott Jerry golf has more on the line this week. And I got another installment of the EMMY award winning that do do. Thank you to Golden Globe. What we start every day with a win. Log which you've got David. I'll man the air Zona cardinals hiring uplift kings bird is not a football sound decision. If a prisoner of the moment decision. It's a fad decision is the kind of decision making that works in Hollywood or the music industry. But fails rather quickly in an industry that requires actual substance. The cardinals hired Kingsbury because he's a tall. Sean McVeigh the Tom Cruise magazine cover boy of NFL coaches in their press. Release announcing Kingsbury is hiring. The cardinals bragged Kingsbury is friends with McVeigh, and they called the Rams coach a genius keep in mind McVeigh's being hailed as a genius. But not one person is called him a playoff winner. As of this date, the NFC west has gone Hollywood McVeigh Kingsbury in San Francisco head. Coach cows jam and are the new rat pack or brat pack, their football's Frank Sinatra Dean, Martin Sammy Davis junior Hollywood love style cares. Little for substance. Oh, the Beatles are popular we'll make a knock off TV show and music group called the monkeys. That's Hollywood since the beginning of time football doesn't work that way, not successfully McVay and Shanahan or cute and cuddly and seeing his quarterback gurus. So the cardinals hired their fair-haired golden boy coach problem is there's no reason to believe Kingsbury is going to be successful, man. Since one thousand nine hundred eighty six Texas Tech has had four head coaches, spike dyke, Mike Leach, Tommy tub reveal and kings. Berg only one of them finished with a losing record Kingsbury. Yes. Kingsbury runs a quarterback friendly offense. And he's likely going to be an asset for Zona John quarterback Josh Rosen. But you don't. Not hire NFL head coaches to coach one position or one player the same basketball. It's not that easy. You have to worry about more than just making LeBron James happy. The best football head coaches coats. They're assistant coaches, that's the long term sustainable winning formula. A football. Head coaches are at our dept at coaching the other grown men. They work with on a day-to-day basis the assistance coast the children and the head coach arbitrates disputes. That's what makes Bill Belichick Bill Belichick. His ability to lead his peers the same goes for Nick, Sabin, dabbled Sweeney and urban Meyer. You know, why the Rams haven't been able to fix their high price all star Laden defense because pretty boy, Sean McVeigh can't coach Wade Phillips Phillips, no matter how experienced and talented. She is needs to be coats. That's the head. Coach's job. Look at Hugh Jackson. He's a tremendous often to mind he knows as much about offense football as anyone in the game. He failed as a head coach because he can't coach his coaches. That's the job Kingsbury is a bad hire. He might have some initial success and improve the play of Josh Rosen. But I think the cardinals will regret this higher within three to four years are joining the desk now or FOX football NFL analyst, the Angelo hall, and Sean Merriman Marcellus I'll start with you. Yes, sir. Kingsbury bad Har. I know you got trust issues. I could tell it just came out and yet. Despite the fact that you've fifty plus years old and you super single steel you've got to trust. But can you give him enough rope to hang himself with instead of giving him a Texas Tech? Look at Texas Tech. He had a top he hung himself. No. He got fired. He also showed his greatest attribute. Which is. I'm a mind top sixteen offense every single year. He was there now to your point to your criticism. He must coach others. He must hired the right coaches. He must hire a tremendous defensive coordinator like Sean McVeigh did. But if you look at what he's there to do is, twofold one is to bring that office of genius and to fix Josh Rosen who had the worst quarterback rating of all quarterbacks, and who was also the can't miss prospect in terms of being NFL ready. So if you bring them into the fold you're saying in this copycat league district work seven of the eight coaches remaining in the playoffs right now or offense a minded and half of them or former quarterbacks life light cliff Kingsbury, they are cut from the same cloth. And you can't argue with those results. You can't argue with that success. And if this is a guy who's being respected and lauded by not. Only that group of people in knows people who have faced Texas Tech. But even as former players packed from our home, the swearing by cliff. Alad true. Well, look glare wanna success is why he swear by and look. AM? He helped Manziel become an Heisman Trophy winner. Like, if you just look at the individual cases, they're saying we have another individual case for you is called Josh Rosen. Arizona cardinals. I support this hired. I think it's going to work. If you bring in a coast that is eight and five four eight seven six five and seven six and seven what was the success? I don't I don't get it. Whenever you let it go. Let go a a Steve Wilks Wilks was my defensive back coach when I play with the charges. So I know him as a person. So anytime you get rid of a first time head coach after one year. There's no dispute with the organization since I know Steve Wilks, I know that wasn't the case. This is why you have a problem with people with the great what people have problem with African American coaches, and why they are having the opportunity you get rid of a guy after one year, and you bring in this. If you bring one bucket coast one if you if you bring if you bring it urban Meyer if you bring in Nick Sabin or so. Someone who has a winning record and a long history of a winning record. Nobody complains. But if you get rid of a first time head coach after one year after one season and you bring in one coach to coach to coach one player. This is what a gripe compromise is a horrible decision. Not only for three or four years. I think it says back to organization law go to net. Because even if you give this guy a chance to beat at three and four years, you still going to have another three or four years Bill. So they probably send this organization back at least by five years. I think it's a horrible decision. Yeah. My problem in the click Kingsbury my problems with Arizona Cardinals. Because like you say they bringing them in to coach went position if he was offense coordinator, bam. I don't have a problem with. But you're asking this guy to coach me coach groman some that probably he won't are like he won't have the respect of some of those guys walking walking in that door one from just the way he handed the whole US situation. And to like, you said his record doesn't show me that he deserves this. And that's what it comes down. At this point these some of these guys were getting here. Coaching jobs don't necessarily deserve the opportunity, and that's all I want. I want to see guys who deserve the opportunity to be a head coach. You're right. He doesn't make it even worse. Everyone's trying to go with the trend right now. Because Sean McVay is having what you know, what let me cut you off real quick. I don't even think this has anything to do with Sean McVeigh all. They did put it in the press conference. But I think that this has more to do with with with with Patrick Mahomes and his success. He he has had since coming into this league. They better move his arm. Here is on. Yeah. Because they they're saying clicking is this quarterback whisper or his great quarterback guru. I mean, you got Pat Mahomes who I feel like is that anomaly, the the baseball kid who can throw it all kinds of ways strong arm athletic gets it mentally. But some of the other guys he's coach case keenum had his moment. Davis Webb what and Johnny Manziel. And we'd never thought was a pro style quarterback. But to me, it's just a college gimmicky style where we can compile all these numbers. But at the end of the day, I still haven't taught you how to read a defence. I'm just gonna tell you what the issue is going to be in. Again, they talking about the grown man would bid contracts on the field is one thing. But now, you have grown men with big contracts in the assistant coaching pool. And so they don't have to go out and spend some money on a real defensive coordinator should with some NFL experience. And he's going to be the boss of him. And trust me that NFL defensive coordinator on is. Not he's not gonna respect kings braider Kingsbury. Can't tell him man. You don't know. Nothing about this game over here in the NFL. That's a nice little gimmick offense. You ran in the big deal, and it put up some numbers, but over here in this league, you know, nothing. And so again, the head coach has to coda UPS system coaches, and I just don't see it happening. You put a numbers, but you still don't wear Wayne. Don't wait you don't wear and I'm hearing that he's one of those kind of guys I had a guy like this in the land. Bobby portray know who care nothing about the defense. He was strictly offense at a lot of the beef with me and coach between ohi went down when we still have Michael Vick. And he was still considered on our roster. He wanted me to go over there and work with the offense by Victorino. I did I was running routes all off season was feeling good. Mike Zimmer was my defensive coordinator pursue Jackson actually was office coordinator under Bobby portray. No. So this office was was slated to be pretty darn good. So they will let me run routes. I was feeling excited. I was young kid on the fastest guys in the league. And so when I went and finally. Said well, Mike got in trouble. So once they went down coast, I kind of want to just focus on defense. Oh, he flipped the script. He at that point everything idea. He found a way to pick and he will walk past me, sometimes not speak. I mean, he just became a different person. In hearing Baker Mayfield talk about a cliff Kingsbury and his relationship with him after going out there as a freshman in competing and getting hurt. And then feeling like like at that got hurt. Coach Kingsbury never said a word to me. He will walk pass me. He would do this. If you wanna defensive side of the ball almost like any given Sunday. You can't have one side without the other side, and that will create a. Then he cuts you off. Okay. I got three things that I smoke all three of y'all right now. I got it out. First one is you brought up a losing record write five of his six seasons. You did. Right. And I wonder who in NFL history had a losing record five day first six seasons, and I'll one Super Bowls with oh. As a coach, I wonder who that was Bill Bella check. Okay. So no opportunity. Oh, yeah. We should give you not. I got another one. Here's some smoke. The four teams four teams right now that are still playing in the playoffs are big twelve offices. Cheeks Rams saints and in a bear should be playing. But dammit to fill up big office because they okay, okay. This is saying this is just to let you can locate. And then last, but not least Sean McVay does not focus in on defense to your point. He has Wade Phillips to do just that. And it's worked just fine for the random problem. Coach of the. Coach of the year. They can't stop the one the number one elements. You have to do they do have a problem. They have a problem with Rhys raises staying there is a problem. We've all see this week, you what happens. I want to go on the Bill the check deal. Did you just hear me say everybody that coasted Texas Tech since one thousand nine hundred six has one except for one person? Everybody the coaches for the Browns has been a failure. Bill Bill to check file shoddy. Armor was not a failure. Don't do that. Okay. I'm just saying not everybody just days that was forty years ago. When Marty had success, the Browns organization kills coaches, Bill and checks resume having kosher par sales in the giants and haven't want some balls. It's hard to second. Guess is. Okay. I wanted to have comparable to Bill bell checks. But it's in the world of the guy a chance, I it's in the world of X. Josh role is just just in the world of misfiring cumby an old CNN NFL. I is. It says in so many other opportunities so many other coaches why go over everyone had this in this pool right now because to go get. Get a college coach that has no successful winning season. This is bad here. The general manager drafted Josh Rosen, and the general manager is all in justifying that Bill and so now the other fifty two dudes in that locker room we're going to be like hold on. What about what about the entire team fixed? A quarterback fixed office ally, you fixed the receiver office and that could complement the defense y'all stop that acting like that's not complementary football right there. Most important position getting fixed. You can't have the worst quarterback rating at your officer quarterbacks other ways, I'm gonna be interested to see how he coexists with that team as a leader of men in that locker room that is what I what I can't wait can you guys? Please stop disrespecting the process as and get out of this archaic mindset that you got to be a former coordinator or you gotta have some later. Okay. Was a land. That's all I'm saying. You don't have to have you wanna see some? Guys with no head coaching experience. Doug Peterson shaman Matt Nagy and Frank Reich. Oh does guys still playing in the playoffs. Right. Right. Look at this. Round football been around for long. He fails in jail. Mcveigh didn't even go pro cliff? Kingsbury was so pro player like y'all just I just say like I started off with gave the guy enough rope. With make sure you just say hang himself, again doesn't hung himself and Texas sick. And we're we'll he's getting the rope. Arizona's given the rope same as Texas Tech. Tafur couple of big stories. We're locking Wiley the Angelo hall and John Merriman are back. Let's move to Cleveland Browns reportedly hired a new head coach today. Elevating offense coordinator, Freddie, kitchens to the top job after he oversaw an excellent rookie year by Baker Mayfield. But kitchens actually leapfrog Greg Williams who took over after after Hugh Jackson was fired and lead Cleveland to their best season in years. I guess I must say on the negative train. I don't like your legs. I don't get. Why would he jump over Greg Williams? I I don't get it. I got the Greg Williams finished five and three they finished five and two down the stretch. What more degrade Williams need to do to get this job? Why give it to Freddie kitchens? He seems a little green experienced and green to me this is I don't like to Freddie, kitchens serves as the Browns. Interim office coordinator for the final eight games. When did Baker Mayfield players best football. We gave a lot of credit, Greg. We as defensive minded coach a defence a coordinator. All right. It was just checking on Friday what you're doing. We're Baker looking good later. Any left that room went to the other side and say helped me defense because Baker out there balling and Baker was bombed because of Freddie kitchen, so I love this higher gear. Look at my positively starting to rule. There's also organizational decision, there's sometimes you ne- the older wiser individual to call time out for you. I like Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield. When he first came out. He was doing his his Facebook, videos and all this stuff. And I'm like, oh, that's different. But hey, you number one overall pick do you? But his energy hasn't changed from college. Immaturity face of the franchise quarterback, energy, whatever that is even though I love arrogant player. It hasn't changed. And I think this is the organization saying I love your Greg Williams, you deserve a lot of credit for what you did stabilize in this ship after the fire of Hugh Jackson. However, we gotta bring Baker Mayfield back. And I know you know, what the body is buried, and he has this kind of relationship with you where he feels like he can go out there and be risque. I need Freddie to get this guy back. Not only the plan. Great football. Like he did bring the personality notchback. So we could see a mature see, I think, Freddie, would have more. Opportunity to do that as offense coordinator as a head coach near like, we just talked about as a head coach now Europe like you have to basically you're responsible for that whole team every single every personal in defense of your personal offense. I'm with you. I kind of thought Greg Williams should've got this job. Because I thought this staff did a great job after their whole Hugh Jackson and who was the tire Haley. Yeah. That whole Vasko. I thought they did a great job. And I thought a lot of their head to do with the leadership from Greg Williams and it trickled on down. I was a guy who thought man. Freddie kitchens y'all giving him an office according to. Yeah, he called you know, they said he called plays in the fourth preseason game. And I joked like heck I coach to let us call plays in that qualify him to be a coordinator. But he actually did a very good job. And so you're taking a guy who already was taken out of his comfort zone as a position coach and told to be an offense coordinator who had all that responsibility. Which he did he did a good job. And now you're gonna give that man even more. More responsibility and say, hey, let's make you the head coach. Now, I just think it doesn't give him a fair chance. I think I I agree with this high for one Greg Williams is a great defensive coordinator. He doesn't have the temperament to manage a team. You know, you have Costa coaches that are great coordinators in a move the head coaches, and they just they're not good. I mean, we we love way Philip away. Philip just wouldn't Ed that Costa move on and manage that many personalities. He's just not that type for one Bret Williams have too much of a pass for them to deal with the whole bounty stuff and everything that they they got they got over it. But you know, you putting a guy at head coach who had a manage the entire team. You know, he has to go over to the wide receivers. He can't stay on a different side of the ball. And just run those rules and incorrect the defense. Now, you gotta manage all those personality. He didn't have the temperament I love I love defense of coaches as a head coach. But sometimes it just doesn't work out for the for the team across the board. Disagree. I felt like that Cleveland team needed a guy. Greg. We have to come in from a guy like you. Who was so easy going? You have to practice today. Man. Let the guys if they want the day off let them had the day. Oh, Greg Williams ain't about that life. A look if you ain't practicing you ain't playing period. And so they needed that toughness that was part of the that was part of the conflict it felt like from watching hard knocks. Todd Haley believe, hey, this is how we did it. This is how you win gained. Hey, you gotta teach these guys in Cleveland how to win because they have no clue. Well, right hand tests. Scientists point. He should he should still be on the staff. On how they should be. Yeah. They wanna wait locks. Evergreen points about the Cleveland Browns is why are we talking about Baker Mayfield and his personality and not enough about him. Breaking. Russell Wilson's rookie passing record, right, man. Eight minutes past the regular work. So so why are we talking about that is because this thing blew out of control gas meets fire. And it's a problem Baker Mayfield and Greg Williams together forever is not the dissolution. So I like the, Freddie kitchens. All right to another big story this one in Denver where the Broncos have reportedly tat bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio as their next head. Coach John always last hire Vance Joseph lasted only two seasons and in an odd. Twist. Former head coach Gary kubiak will return as the offense coordinator, the Broncos have been in the wilderness since Peyton Manning left after winning the Super Bowl in two thousand fifteen. I John Elway is my favorite NFL player of all time. I'm a bit of a John Elway Homer. I liked this higher. I like getting their there. I like getting a veteran as a defensive coat and then to me bringing Gary kubiak back to run the offense. I think this is the perfect marriage. I think they got it. Right. Love this. I love this higher two different reasons. Seven of the eight remaining coaches are officer minded, right? So let's zig when everyone else is zagging. This actually start thinking about how we gonna stop these offenses instead of trying to just be the copycat next one in that faux. So I respect that uniqueness beyond that defense is still teams identity, and that's what their money is as well. Right. So let's double down on that defense. Get somebody who's going to run this team and run that defense. And then let's bring back someone who has Super Bowl experience with us. And now let him be the office coordinator and fix things on that side. So it's almost a flip model of what we're seeing for most teams most coaching staffs, which is trying to get the head coach to look offense. They're looking defense and then getting someone would experience and success to do to offense. Like, you know, we had a general manager in with the charges that may may J Smith, right? You've. Oh, we'll AJ. Jay Smith did a hell of a job draft guys. I believe he had one of the best is when it come to seeing talent. Right. I mean, he can drive the best talent. But he could not manage a team. You'll John Elway had that reverse effect where he's just not bringing the right people in the past. But he he does really well that managing the team. I think he got it. Right. This time. I think for the first time since he came over and as a GM that he got right? He's bringing in the right people disagree hot. And let me tell you why why else would agree high? And while he got it. Right. He got it. Right. Because Vic Fangio was one of the best defensive minds in the game. Today. He doesn't get a lot of credit. He's an older gentleman. He's sixty years old. And so a lot of a lot of people thought that the head coaching opportunities for him at already passed, but he's going to bring in as a head coach a guy who's not going to have an ego. He's been around this block a long time. And he's gonna let Gary kubiak to me this feels like a a co head coaching job. For me. It feels like Gary kubiak is going to solely have that that that offense. He's going to have input into who he needs on his roster offensively, and I think Vic Fangio a do the same thing on defense. He'll have sole control of their defense. He will have to necessarily worry about the offense. He'll have a guy because Vic even though he's been around the game longtime is his first time being a head football. Coach he'll have a guy in his office, a coordinating Gary kubiak who who who knows how things work. You know, what I mean who can help him who he can kinda, you know, talk to about different situations that arise. But I don't think anything that happened through the course of this season or or his tenure as a head coach, you know, it'd be anything new because like I said he's been around the block so much. But to me, it's definitely feels like a cold head coaching type of situation. And I I love it because I don't see eagles getting into where these two guys. That's I think that's needed here. For clarity. Elway has have this is what is fourth coaching higher and two of the previous. Three were successful. I mean, you won the Super Bowl you lost the Super Bowl. And then Vance Joseph. We're gonna let that go. Right. So always done it right at coaching. He hasn't done it right at the quarterback because we'll hear what Elway's doing here is just going with experience. They win an inexperienced God last time, and it blew up and they face. Yeah. He's had success with experienced coaches going back to that one. One more time, we got twenty seconds here stuff for you. So premature and look at here raiders Rams chiefs in the same division, which you. Offices are coming. You guys. Six games on the schedule in ten that are like you gotta do even Gruden endear. Call you're not gonna have a great night asleep that night, you gotta deal with all those schematic subway and then rammed the chiefs got. Lock him while he joined by the annual hall and Sean Merriman it's time for that news dude ourselves from got some love for the big uglies out there in the trenches the stars of the team who don't get enough shine. So let's show some love to wit locking myself this go with the debt dues dues or the week. Number three. We're going to go with the Chicago Bears linebacker Linnart flowing bear's loss to the eagles. We all know three tackles one sack right here. Then Floyd bounces off Jason Peterson gift to Nick foles. What a sack and a celebration. Now, Jason Peters is looking inside at the snap. Oh, that's not good. Because you're on the road. We get that. But then they get to their set point as you can see jas appears feeling good about himself little square. But hey, we still got it a good set point. Now, Jason Peters continues to do some work. What an expectation of his quarterback, Nick foles? I know what you know to see that lane right there. Please step up in their the real Nick foles, please step up. But it does not. So now Jason Pierce, man. What's on doing dog? Carson wentz. Anyone Carson Winston you want? But no he forgets that he has to continue on the block, no matter what Nick foles does. And now it's time to ride that horse. It's tied to get up on that horse. Buck that pony and bring them down to the ground safe and sound no NFL issued their Leonard fluid. Our third that dude of the week. Now, let's go to my team dot charges number two defensive in Melvin Ingram ball to number two. Lightning strikes him until you what you can see Melvin Ingram. Here had a Mazda seven tackles two sacks issues. A quick spin move to get to Lamar Jackson for the second time starting to let the board know that. Anger right here. Use the quick we move jets out when you stab and punch me please put in the proper position if not I will use it against you. And put my power leg down and position myself for some lightning hit it. And then I'm about to spin up out of that use all your leverage against you. Because you had a bad stabbed move Inga right there textbook as to picture. Perfect. A perfect pitcher. He that poor. Every level of the textbook on a spin move. Now, you can see right here. They get into a little huddle to each other. Let me know how we go. Block Melvin Ingram. Are we not okay now, we try to recover Melvin ego? His with the day and our dad army's this twist up a body give them nothing to hit. No levers, no, contact point Marge accent, take that Melvin Ingram high step L A charges Melvin Ingram. Number two lights out move. This week is now let's go in number one. We're lot coats officer guard. Quinton known clown soup cloudy, boy, he's about to hit him. Now. We know he's first team all pro and pro bowler as a rookie nickname Earl grey, y'all figure that out a nickname. It's amazing JJ. What does well to leap swat Andrew looks past. Let's rewind and show you what really happened. Oh were quitting in. They're doing finish. Oh wit locking me. Wrestling over his poor chocolates. How them? Oh, you try to hit it what the college silky swim. We call. This is the danger of doing swim move. If it doesn't clear. Oh, my God you go get put in. I see you can quit Nelson's like thank you helmet for blocking swim move. So now he has them in this position. No, levers Davey and cloudy. Defibrillators are now command grandpa, code blue blue. Oh, oh, Nelson. This is athlete a system that legs dangling. But his eyes are big they bug odd. Because he knows about to happen clown. Sue, cloudy, he is about to get him and quit Nelson. We'll finish. This Dave is doing all he can. But there's nothing you can day. Does bounty. And now now goes. Oh, my God Earl grey. I see you brother quit Nelson. You a beast. I'm glad I'm retired. You are number one that do package special. Thank you. Great job. This move to LA Coliseum where the Rams host the Cowboys and a divisional round showdown Saturday night. Dak Prescott has been facing doubters all year and a win this week could go a long way towards silencing his critics and nobody doubts Jared goff's abilities throwing the ball another early exit from the postseason could put a serious ding in his reputation. I actually think Jared Goff has more to lose in this game than actually Dak Prescott. Okay. That Prescott is supported by the owner, Jerry Jones. Yeah. Shamanee did not draft Jared Goff, and Jerry golf has had a poor finish to the regular season. And if he byles out of these play offs with the poor performance, Sean McVay may not maybe next year, but shaman way can wiggle himself loose from Jared Goff and point the finger Jared Goff. I think there's more to be one and loss in this game for Gerry Goffin Dak Prescott. Interesting take I won't argue against it. But I do have a different side in different perspective. I'm looking at Dak Prescott. And I say there's more for him and more meaning in his game for him, and turns into positives and negatives think about it Jared Goff. He's already been through the fire. He got beat up his first seven games his rookie year. Oh my goodness. Owen seven you're bust. And then he just has backed that up with consecutive years of almost an NFL MVP playing at the highest level. So he's already been through the fire deck is still in the. Fires not been through it still going through it. And if that Prescott goes out there and plays. Well, people going to say, okay. It's time to eat a little more crow from you deck, but if dad goes out there and messes up people like myself and others who are critical of deck will sit there and say to- jaw I told you this is all we've been waiting for. So I think there are lower lows for Dak Prescott. That's why I think this game's means more for him. Yeah. I don't think neither one of these guys are in fear of not being there teams quarterback moving forward long-term. But with that being said, I I just think the pressures on that because more people don't believe in that than I think Jared Goff. I think Jerry golf has a stable of people 'specially people in the media who believe he is a elite elite quarterback or right on that cusp. And I was kinda hesitant to give him that that Monica right now because the way he's ended the season, you know, been plays out. Down the field where I've seen that just take the check down just take the check down where he's just being a little too, greedy, a little too, greedy. And he was getting away with it early in the season. And now he's not getting away with it teams are starting to say, hey, look, we know Jerry in this offense wants to home run ball. So we're going to put two guys on that leave this guy open, and he's just not being patient enough. And so he still has a lot to prove to me for me to really by the hype. But I think the masses have already bought the hype of Jerry golf, and Sean McVay fixed him, I still think like you said, it's still some something left. I need to see I need to see them go out there and really consistently do it. But I think it's more pressure on that. Because I think it's more people don't believe that that can beat them throwing the ball all over the field. What pressure on that Dacca's average quarterback? I said it before I'll say. No, I agree. I agree with Jerry golf isn't a lose lose situation. Because you go out and beat the Dallas Cowboys, you'd be more pointedly. You beat Dak Prescott. Okay. You beat that Prescott. Whippy? Congratulations. You lose to them would be congratulates. Because you know, Dak Prescott is not going to win and lose a game for the Dallas Cowboys. It's going to be because everybody else going to be because that defense it's going to be because Amari Cooper came out and made some spectacular plays. It's going to be because the coach went out there and call some spectacular place is not the game is not going to be one a loss because at that Prescott. Anyway, they're not even in the playoffs. Because at Dak Prescott. They're in the playoffs because of everyone else. So Jared Goff is in a lose lose situation. No matter how you say it the pressures on him. Yeah. The pressure is on deck. Trust me. I understand what you're saying Merriman agree. But think about this anyone who has criticism of Jerry golf has to remember what happened this year and really dive into the details. It's a simple as this Cooper Cup. Yeah. Roommate their friend say security blankets, you go down to Seattle game. What happens to now you look at your golf? He stops taking the short intermediate route which Cooper love that religion. And all of a sudden he just started going over top because he's trying to compensate a lot of young quarterbacks feel that pressure. He's an NFL MVP caliber quarterback who's trying to keep those numbers up and keep this offense rolling. But you just lost their key part of that offense and that engine. So I just think that Jared Goff is fine. No matter his lowest of lows because he lost up to now. He's stinks. It up. Again. He's not even the face. He might be third or fourth on the totem pole in the face of the Rams after girly certainly after McVeigh. Donald. And so he's easier to walk away from Jerry Jones has made it crystal clear who his quarterback is ownership. And so was great to have fan and media support, but fans are fickle. And so is the media Jared Goff goes out here and stinks it up and they don't play. Well, trust me. We're going to be on this show lighting a fire under his rear, but we've seen to come out and say, hey, these guys are gonna be here. He's going to be he's going to be here. And then the guys cut next season. And So Jerry can love him up. All right. I mean, I feel like you're right. The Dax not going anywhere. But I mean, we've seen Jerry backtrack before I'm living resale. Time to put on our thinking caps. The Angelo hall and San Merriman Virginia Tech and Maryland's finest low of forty eight I'm here. As you all know. I'm a journalist, and we've got our resident Ivy league Columbia's, very, oh Marcellus Wiley here. So we're going to take a deeper look at a big issue in sports got a special cab for our Columbia grad. Darnell bring it on slimmer Darnay little Darnell, Jim. They're resolution. Yeah. All right. Let's move to Pittsburgh. I we where the Steelers season may be over but the drama around. Antonio Brown is still growing since it surface that Brown was actually benched for the final game. Former Steeler Ryan Clark has been highly critical of his old teammate and yesterday revealed at Brown cussed out former defense coordinator, dick lebeau, one of the most respective coaches in the league Kark also took his old coach Mike Tomlin attest for allowing the whole situation to get so out of hand this season. I've been critical of Mike Tomlin in the past. And they certainly have I think some discipline issues in Pittsburgh. But I can't put this all on Mike Tomlin there. I think this organization if you really understand the history of it going all the way back to Chuck, no, they don't empower their head coaches in Pittsburgh that organizations run from the very top down. And the coaches aren't nearly as powerful as a Bill Bella check is and New England peak heroin Seattle, the coaches don't control things, and I think in this era of football where the players make so much money. The coach has to have more control and power if he's gonna fix these kind of dysfunctional issues. And so I think it's going to be very hard. They can let go of AB, but there will be new problems in Pittsburgh because of the way the organization set up. Yes. A leaky water. Hose grandma used to always say once you got one league baby stopped trying to pass that thing. Save up and getting new baby. You know, why? Because you pass this up leak over here leak over here, you trade and Tonio Brown. You still got to organizational issue to deal with? So I can agree with you there and understand the shots that Mike Tomlin constantly the shots at Mike Tomlin word are coming from how this even more into a story. More about him and his lack of control, and I will answer it and several objective measures and in story one if we're measuring dysfunction by Super Bowl championships now dysfunctional in Pittsburgh, Mike is one of the seven active head coaches would so boring. If we're just by wins, you give the organization a chance second most winning coach behind Bill Belichick. What? So what are we going with this? What does this about? Well, it just seems like there's a lot of drama come out with Pittsburgh a lot of issues to what? Tune to the tune of them still went into to the tune of them still winning the Super Bowl. I didn't make the playoffs today. Right. But he's never had Becker from never had a losing record. So. So I just wanna make sure we understand what power looks like and true control from the head coach position looks like Bill Parcells I e the story. No one denies Bill. Parsoes an amazing coach great coach and had total control. Correct. Oh, yeah. But these is right here saw Bill Parcells get hands put on him in practice from one of his own players Antonio, Brian now, I only tell this story at times because I love when people always say, well this coach is losing control loser power. I was like even the best of them go through this Antonio, Brian Bill Parcells had war words that turned into a war of actions, and this is pre social media. So I guess it didn't exist, but it did. And then even as recent as Bill Belichick in the Super Bowl to show his power to show, his control. He does the same thing. My tomah did head the bench of star player in the most critical moment. So I don't know where you wanna put Mike Tomlin in terms of having control. But I'll put them up there at the highest place would Abella chick would apar- sales. And he has accolades support he deserves to beater and the thing that's different about this situation to say a place like New England stories don't necessarily leak out, man. You know, what I mean, you gotta know who you're dealing with in his Pittsburgh locker room. These guys are social media darlings. They love it. You know, they're always on their social media telling their story or what's going on or this. And that in New England, you don't have a lot of that. But these guys. To me some players you just can't control Antonio Brown. I don't know him that. Well, but as his star has risen, he's changed. He's wanted to be treated more like been maybe more like a lady on maybe is. So at this point do you have to move on from him. I think so just because the relationship just feels like it's it's beyond repair when you're benching one of your star players like that and guys on the team know the story behind why he's been benched guys guys might not wanna fight with a guy like that. And go to war and say, hey, I'm believing in this guy, they're paying they're paying a lot of money and emergence of a guy like juju, you gotta get rid of this headache. And you'll be all right. That's a great point. You can spin it to us of us from a distant from our vantage point in that locker room, you know, and I don't care what you say coach. I don't care how you clear it up. Forevermore. I know what happened there, and I may take some of my spirit away for fighting. And you know, I'll give my town this credit. Because he doesn't control the roster. Right. You can bench a guy you could say something to him. But when you pay in Tonio Brown that kind of money he going to be there. Ain't nothing. You can do about it. He going to be him. Yeah. He going to be him. So once that happens, and what's the other players? See Antonio Brown. Do something in the coach can't do anything about it. Okay. Now, you're gonna have on bail once Levy on bail do something. And you can't do nothing about it. Because he's franchise whatever the case is he's going to be there for that year. You can't do it on the bottle to your point. There's a lot of patches that needs to be field. But it's not necessarily his job to do something about it. Because he doesn't control the roster. But he did he has put up with it for a long time. We'll see even the whiz point. I didn't know some of the inner workings that Pittsburgh organization. And so do you think? Well, I think from the outside looking in that Ben was kind of given this this blessing to kind of do whatever he wants. Hand corner. This fire half coaches higher. You know, moving his position coach to the coordinator spots to look I passes for him. I think Pittsburgh is a great place that coach because you're gonna have long jeopardy. They're going to be patient with you. They've had three coaches and fifty years, basically, that's great about it. But you're not gonna have the kind of power that other successful coaches have. And that puts you in a position where big been to me is out of control labiancas was out of control of Antonio Brown out of control. We looked at the offense of line to me get out of control this season. Taking potshots at lady I'm Bill and talking about his money. Joey porter their assistant coat out of control on the field. Former assist. And then and then even go by this one I'm talking about when Tomlin lack of power they installed Todd Haley as the offense coordinator that wasn't a Tomlin decision. Dick Haley, Todd heavies father worked in the Steelers organization in the front office for a long time. That's why Todd Haley was brought back there. And so and then even this year when when it became to replace in Todd Haley that that was more of a Big Ben call him elevating his quarterback coaching his boy, I don't want. I'd never make excuses for Mike Tomlin because again, not making the playoffs. Unacceptable. Some of the decision making is unacceptable in my view. Some of the things he's done stepping on the field and interfering with a kickoff return. Some of it is on tomor. But a lot of it is not talked about is situational in Pittsburgh. You got a coach that's. Had success, but doesn't have the power of a successful coat parallel to one of your great points about way Phillips, and with the Rams did defensively this year is you may have taken on too much more than you can handle right personalities. And I'm thinking like Mike Tomlin, you say he doesn't have control of the roster and some of the coaching hires. I worked with all of these guys in some form of capacity, whether it's personal relationship or actually play with Todd Haley, Todd Haley, Joey porter. Antonio braille big been and Levy on bail own one team is to. What? Also, still standing that's easy and Dessus a lot of personality. I'm not going to sit here and say, I feel sorry for Mike Tomlin. He's done a marvelous job despite distraction, but part of their distraction is so fun is not thinking about the personality, which is making this combined. We're joined now by FOX NBA analysts iceberg, Jim. All right. Let's move to the NBA where the warriors easily blew off the Knicks last night, New York has long been rumored to be one of Kevin Durant's most likely destinations if he leaves in free agency this summer and Knicks legend, Walt CLYDE Frazier says that if Katie brings a title back to Madison Square Garden, it would put him on the same level as Michael Jordan. And LeBron James, I completely agree with CLYDE Frazier here. And I think it's it same level is tough. But it puts him in that conversation. And I but Kobe was in this spot. I think after shack left when Kobe by getting those additional two championships elevated himself, greatly in the discussion of all time greats and if Kevin Durant to me goes to New York and brings the title there. I think he bought pass Kobe Bryant and puts himself where you can actually have a conversation about he and LeBron James. Not Michael Jordan, in my opinion. But in LeBron James. No, no, no, right. This new wall. Fraser we call. This the to hand tap you ever you ever say something in someone just comes up to you. You like what I say Bruce Bowen got to hand tat, you know, Bruce ball, and we're talking about. Kawhi Leonard also, ooh, we got really hard for him. He got the axe Kurt Warner's done this before wolf razors trying to walk it back to staying in the summer it insalled with the same energy as what he's saying now. Oh, you can enter the goat conversation before you went somewhere. They need you. Whoa. Whoa. That's smoke. And I think that he's trying to walk that back. That's it. The. Kevin Durant is a mega baller mega star. No matter. What's team? He's on number one media market in the world is New York. We get in our country. Why because they could sell the message better than anybody. What they sell it right now is come here. And if you win here, and we haven't won a forty plus years on my God, everything changes, not so true. Same reason why they say that they're to make a basketball little archaic. No sitting there saying I'll go to New York, and that's all only ballers are. So for me, this is just a lot of mixed signals trying to get a guy in recruiting. But not keeping it thorough. Not keeping at one hundred go to the clippers. If you really want to go somewhere where they have one always give to the clippers because that's the best that maximum impact. It is right now is a star going to the clippers and winning champ. Not true. Not true. Not I agree with walked from this. I think the Bronx put himself in a separate category. When he went back to Cleveland and one even though he had kyri and Kevin love he kind of separated himself by going back and doing that for. Kevin Durant to be able to go and do it. It won't be on his own because he's going to need to other people to help do it. When he gets you wherever he goes if he went to New York, so it would put him in a different category. But also, what won't said asterik by his name. Okay. Which I think is a key here because the two we one in Golden State, and you might wanna third. I don't know. I think it'd be careful with Asterix because in history we can all put Asterix on something I can say well when Bill Russell played it was only eight of the teams here to play again. So to level competition. Wasn't that good? I can say when San Antonio won the ninety eight ninety nine hell it was lockout season. We didn't play a full season or I can save the Houston Rockets back to back. No, jordan. No, jordan. So we can pick and choose how we want to put an ashtray on something. But all of those teams that won it had to do it in the time for frame in which they play and Kevin Durant is happens to be a timeframe where guys are more likely to jumped ship to go somewhere else. In play to in order get a championship because we look at Barclay differently. If he'd wanted in Houston because he even though he wanted to individual rear he went to the championship, but he didn't win it. So I think we gotta be careful once we started talking about that because that puts you in a different frame and a different conversation. Having said that though I don't get it myself, honest to goodness New York is the media capital of the world. Even though silicon valley's trying to usurp him. But if he brings a championship to the Knicks. You don't think that changes the conversation about Kevin Durant significantly? I think it will in terms of volume looked a messaging we'll be in a volume in quantity. Just like is going to elevate him because he's going to be in that conversation more so than any other place because it is the media market. But then we're going to dive into the details who else came to Jimmy's point he's not doing it by himself. So who else is on that roster? It's almost like he has to go to a bear. Bones roster, and then he's going to get the proper respect because all were stars. Then we're gonna hear all as needs to be is the very best player on that. He's been that on the last two arguing about MBA. P they wanted before. So his added value you can't quantify it because they wanted before he goes to New York. And let's say it's a guy. That's right underneath him in regards to his talent. But Kevin Durant is still the lead dog. You are gonna look at him a little bit differently. And so, you know, what you came to a place where we haven't want us says what seventy four so now that does elevate him in regards to how you look at can't. He carry a team and win a championship. Even with somebody else. The answer would be. Yes, if he does, and let's don't sell Scottie Pippen was a helluva player alongside Michael Michael didn't do it all by himself. And so I would give Kevin Durant. A lot of credit and respect if you wanna go into. With locking wildly and iceberg. Jim Jackson, my favorite sex antisocial. Oh, it's all our social media manager debone. Carnell Smith is here to walk us through these old winter streets run out tomorrow raise that chair, but they got your low low tomorrow, that's the. Wants to. Go was popping. Let's start with the shower in Washington. The crypts and alone was on the south on the national championship game on Monday night. And I can't believe a one radio host had to say about it. I don't want to sound like an old Paul Paul. But seriously, the shower washes a star in Cuba in the NFL, and he couldn't dress better. You're not a corner of our receiver your QB your brand. But my my mandate shot, a cool and his response element. Oh, my brand is pretty solid. Jared. I think I was very comfortable and chill to cheer on my university. Yeah. I like how they handle this drinks criticism. I do and I don't get the criticism. Yeah. Yeah. Because I love the ways dress because he I don't think he looked. So casual that I didn't even realize this to Shawn Watson, he's not drawing attention to himself. He's keeping the spotlight on the actual clips in players. I didn't get it at all. But deandre Hopkins. He needed to criticism looking at Jimmy. Of the fast girl room. I would have hit him with the apathy. I would hit him with no response. Like, I can't respond everything but some people like to smoke in their response. So I get that. If you can't be casual as sporting event win can you hate when I go to Laker games. Sometimes in my rare free by the clippers and I'll be looking at. I'm looking at one the men, I'm like, why are you also suited it boot it and in a ladies inhales? I'm like, we're going take a lot of energy do a lot of stuff to kind of get yourself. I'm like it took about two or three hour. Just go to a game. He looks comfortable. He's schilling. He's cheering on his team. I mean, what's the problem, bro? It was. I mean, we want him to come in with a three Ps? The kid to is not that long ago that he was on that team. There's still some teammates on their. He looks to me like a standard two thousand nineteen. Yeah. Okay. Let me tell you something. You can go to mash the neat, right? Yeah. Play hip hop and Mastro that tell you is what? This holiday is exactly. That's right. I'm only one last little I mean, because again, I love this look at least he ain't out here with some three hundred thousand dollar gold chain all trying to flaws in front of a bunch of other college kids. Right. He looks like one of them you don't wear go three hundred. Star quarterback might be a million nets. Jamarcus russell. It was the next man. I got a weird baseball story here for y'all Indians pitcher Trevor Bauer gone to a back and forth Twitter beef with an Astros fan and college name the co Giles over the weekend. Now, she's a legend barrow tickets to four even complains in the team's official Facebook page Giles claims she bloch-bauer we can see you blast are in tweets, including Walmer barracks. Spo- joust for underage drinking. Not smart, kiddo. When you put in a virtual body-bag on Twitter. Maybe just for tonight. Just a half hour ago. Bow person tweets defending his behavior. It's quote good natured, but still apologize. If it had unintended consequences. Do you think of our went too far in this whole scenario? No, not really this is what the mute button and blocked button three or both sides could have used them. I went kind of deep on this this morning looking into it. It's not like there was a bunch of profanity getting tossed around. This was to young people to me on both sides that initially were flirting with each other. Oh, and then it's one out of control in my pig. I saw man look. It's funny that when you see stories like this to me, it's like only the adult show enter and sometimes if you're under age, if you were you could get tried as an adult if you come at me on social media, right? So soon as you enter between the white lines and social media own and cracking. Let's go back back and don't get mad. When you take this ale because don't get mad at my amunition is who don't know who you massive with the problem is is that I guess we are supposed to be the ones that the firm said, you know, what we can't fire back. You know, what I mean, even when she blocked them. He kept going at it like non bought to get at you. I'm giving you all all this heat right now. I do think it coulda pulled back a little bit. But that tweet before the good that was me. He got never. Let's talk era green who got in a frizzy this after claiming he was unfairly targeted for multiple drugs as because it was protest and associated with Colin cabernet. Well, the NFL NFL PA released a joint statement saying that an independent administrator refuted those claims and NFL network ain't and rapport. Even at source said it was determined that real drug tested a few words on than he publicly claimed will lot. Oh, I know you got something to say about this. A lot of Twitter offer getting laughs at the bottle. Please get off Twitter, man. Get out of that Twitter matrix, the NFL PA and the NFL Ian Rapoport all putting you on blast quit trying to be a victim man and just play football. Miss coming out wrong. With all this miss coming out. I will say this. And this is why always hesitated to support. Eric read in this case talking about fair drug tests. There were years only got tested once. Maybe none. It felt like just like, man. They don't care about me, go all these muscles. I guess they think I'm fat and not good. Then they were years teen twelve tunnel, man. What's going on? So when is that random, I think is random drug testing? I didn't believe Eric read from the beginning. It was tough. Because when you first read it you like, oh, it makes sense because he gets back in league. But now that to me the the players association when they jump in and neighbor feud, that's when it starts to get murky generally their on the players side, and we'll defend especially if they do investigations. So it's a little bit tougher for me to kinda with once they jump on now. But it's hard for me to say how many times did he get drug tested. I mean, he's exaggerate look me Eric re wants us to care about. And that's why literally I was very reluctant. I kept saying don't put this story because I don't want to tell the truth about. Theory, but he's attention star. And now he's been called out. Everything's about attention. He wants to be a victim. He wants attention. Don't about the NFL don't care enough about to be extra drug tests. Make a tackle. Bought on like that. Oh, forty four. Komo. It ain't that serious. Right. Not are not go how stay for my guy jailed here for the way has to decide to enter the NFL draft. And it's already generating a lot of buzz as a top pick Haskins who's originally from New Jersey made it pretty clear, what seemed he wants to play for posing a Photoshop of him on a giants uniform on Twitter and Instagram seizing. Don't let me go back to the create in tagging OB James saquon Barkley, we know has it doesn't really have control over where he goes. But do you like him campaigning to play for his hometown? Saying I say be careful what you wish for I went through this with my man, Jeff, George desperately wanna come home and play in Indianapolis, and that's a burden man. You got family friends. Pretend friends and all this hype and pressure is a burden sometimes need to get away from home get away from the nest. Be Dwayne Haski is bright future. Be careful. What you wish for? Yeah. I played as close as I could to the crib. When LA didn't have a team in San Diego. Look you can handle the creative in family and a ticket requests in the third grade, friends and ex girlfriend from high school you can handle all that different doses. But the problem is perception is also reality. So when things go dry or things your rookie, and you're going up and down that perception is oh, he's back home. Oh, he's out there doing too much even though that may not be the reality. Be careful. My words of wisdom is don't route to go back home because you may do it the right way. But it still doesn't look right to everyone man, d go back home, bro. Go back home and have fun and tell everybody listen, this is how I get down because I figure I noticed up dere. Oh, did it him back to Chicago. I briefly went back and went to Cleveland, but I was older. Okay. Where's his maturity level? Who's behind his background has been pretty good in regards your who were years is young man. So if he can handle that part of it, then he'll be fun. Now, it is added pressure. No doubt. Stop it, man. How important? Back home and show them how we do at OSU that we handle all of that. You know? I love what you said. Right. Except this what because he's putting these tweets out already is showing me, he's not handling it perfectly. Even before he's telling you, what wouldn't do this. They've had you gone to Michigan instead of Ohio State. You would have been a much better flair. Are you at home and gone to Michigan, which will reels from the real thing? Jimmy's here to help us talk about our approval ratings for cliff Kingsbury. We're okay in the bandits. Okay. What just worse Rangers smokey? What what is this with first of all a nephew? If you knew your history, you would know that I'm one of the surviving members of the Canadian colored guard. That's not the day. The only surviving and how to hit me what I'm trying to like you. Now, my wife is Canadian, and I never heard of no. No, no, code people. That's wrong. Let's get on line. Let's get to a highlight from our discussion earlier about cliff kings Berg, the NFC west is gone Hollywood, McVeigh Kingsbury and San Francisco head coach cows, and are the new rat pack or brat pack, seven of the eight coaches remaining in the playoffs right now or offense a minded and half of them or former quarterbacks like cliff Kingsbury, they are cut from the same cloth. And you can't argue with those results. You can't argue with that success. I support this hired. I think it's gonna work. I'm still blown away. You support this hire? Marcel they're hiring based on looks day. Can't be deceiving. Or even Jimmy. What's what's your take? I mean, we know how I got the job. Let's take JC. Now heard you referred to them you. Call them, the rat pack, the brand pack or whatever it kind of reminded me of one of the nicknames that so Mahomes used to describe my five ex-wives called the fat pack. The way that the that Iraq fat pack. To tell you laugh at him. And it was so. I'm part of the fat pack. I guess that's why go there. I mean, I'm just saying everybody's you know, you make fun of it. You laugh about it, man. I'm not insulted. You know, I'm not ain't no shame in my game. You know? You see what happens is, man? You know, first of all the by, you know, judge man by the strength strengthen his arms you judge about agree in his head. You see what I'm saying? Well, so therefore the bible teaches me and tells me that would a man don't understand then that's what he's gonna talk about. What are you going to disrespect? Oh, going see what I'm saying? Going depot you win it. So so what I'm trying to tell you as man, you you, you don't know you sound gem McVeigh sale. Gem a lock of kings bird. I sound jealous. I sound jealous. You sound jealous. You jealous of the good. Looks is something that you've never had is something that you terrible wheel. Good looks the love of a woman who can go toe to toe with you wings hot wings. How's Vegas buffet? Now, you want to sit up in not what you don't know. Nothing about. Man. I mean, if I'm gonna be one hundred that's. Would've camera. That's what drives me crazy about your board. Charles barkley. What about what about always making fun making fun of big women? You know, what I'm saying is dumber Kinney cannon. They too big my house. They fall through the Filipino. Liam kelly. He can't handle the heat hill about the kitchen. You know, everybody Bill for that kind of far. Jimmy about that life smoking. That's what it come into notorious Biaggi me. I'll tell you the minute. Believe me, sweetie. I got enough to feed the greedy. Barkley both telling on yourself. This is about keeping it real. Boy told her. Got your approval rating, man, I'm not messing with that. I'm not wearing they'll be. We are. I got going on church. It's been a long time because I've given out a dumpster fire hall Kingsbury is a dumpster fire got him out of thirty four job performance at a sixty the Scott fired at Texas Tech, just where everybody's success all time greatness, do member character. I'll give him a sixteen. I ain't gonna go out, but authenticity, you just took a job at USC and walked away from it within two weeks. No authenticity at ten thirty or overall dumpster fire. Oh, man. I think of him much higher than that really is a role player to me bottom line role player. I gotta look I got to see what he's going to do when it gets there. But if you give me the proposal fire me at Texas Tech, and I'll be the head coach of the cardinals. Yes. Yes, please. So I'll take that. He he touched the football Jesus and Patrick Mahomes garment, and he made Patrick Mahomes who match for homework home this daddy, and mama may Patrick. Holmes who is there should be a category in this doesn't look at visa pretty good-looking do and no more gangsta it in a guy who's like USC twenty five often Tissier's, Fido.

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"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jerry Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode Soda undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So Skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Welcome down muted. We are live from. La I'm Jenny. Taft out here was skip. Bayless and Shannon Sharpe. Good morning capital. Who Friday just two quick news for you? You're Lakers are in trouble tonight. In in Miami cases only got the heat. But you're gonNA give me the three. No No oh come on. What Lakers won unlike eighty four in a row? Two out of twenty four yards three and a half for a case right already loud out. That'd be the company putting this just keep piling on Gain Co.. MVP's Lebron and they're going to share it this year right take a case three and a half has has no courage really will play three. Okay Bam Bam Bam Lakers. I mean that's all book your melting. All right we will talk about that. I am glad to be here on a Friday. Guys is Lamar Jackson accent. Changing the entire future of the NFL and Pacers All Star Guard. Victor Ola Depot is going to join us live in studio to talk about his run in the mass singer. Catch Saturday was pretty impressive to it. Are you really can't sing over. Tokyo contain then singing in the mornings. It's a little frightening. But we'll get the info there but we're going to start with America's game of the week on Fox Rams Cowboys Dallas is looking to snap. It's three game losing extreme. But it's not going to be easy against the rams team that has started to shake off super bowl hangover. Sean mcvay team is coming off back to back wins to get into to the. NFC Wildcard Hunt at eight and five and while the six and seven cowboys could still lose this game and control its own destiny to win the NFC. East Zeke. Elliot Said said quote the focus should already be at an all time high so shannon. Who Wins on Sunday Rams or cowboys when I look at this game You look at the cowboys and you know you love those cowboys. I don't love him as much nearly as much as you do. As a matter of fact I don't know them at all but when I look at the rams and what they've been able to do the last couple of weeks they're starting to look like the rams offense to last year that led the League scoring Jerry office played really well especially the last two weeks and I know you're going to say well one one of those games against the cardinals and they didn't mount much of a defensive effort to to do anything to slow that rams offense down but todd Gurley I think has been the key for some reason. I don't I know what it is. Sean mcvay. Maybe he was an idiot or you just stupid. But he's starting to give Todd Gurley touches three of the last four games. He's got twenty plus touches when tiger can run the football so we don't he doesn't need to be one hundred and fifty yards a game but when he can run it a little. The play action is really there. And now that leave Cooper Cup who this favorite target Robert Wood. Those guys are wide open brandon. Coast can still take the top off. The Coverage Hague tied in is planning unbelievable. The last couple of weeks skip hip cowboys GONNA show them and plus you already told me. They don't really need this game. They're looking for next week because they can win. Lose this week and win next week everything will be all forgotten. It's not gonNA happen. I got the Rams thirty one twenty seven because you know what's the cowboys are probably show up for quarter two. That's normally what they do. They probably take the opening drive in March right down the field and if they were to do that you already know what happens after that. Then they go the next two and a half quarters than they do absolutely nothing. Omar one or two things are going to happen the first area what I just mentioned or they do absolutely nothing. Like three and a half quarters. You'll guy mouse valued effort. You say. What a warrior he he is? Your guy didn't quit but they lose. They're going to lose thirty one twenty seven. The RAMS ARE GONNA be right back in the wild card hunt. I mean you guys would be on life support and then guess what. Walk into and we'll walk over there politely and pull the plug next week interesting and boring input predictable from you so I have an announcement to make what the Dallas Dallas cowboys are going to win this football game. I am not here to bet any do on it. I am not guaranteeing it. I'm just telling you I I believe with all my heart and soul right here right now. They are going to win this football game but they are going to flip the script they are going into reverse your your intended curse that you could on them because you've been cursing them week after week. It's been a long hard brutal season for me to watch and I just have a feeling it ends or starts right here right now. Why do I feel that year? Why because they hit bottom in Kansas City? I don't no how Kansas City in Chicago. They hit so bottom that they missed nineteen tackles. It's the most that have been missing a single game over the last full calendar year of NFL football and they have had to hear about it all week. And I've told you this before and I'm GonNa Drive it home today. Hey the most publicized team in all of Sports. It's not the Yankees. It's The Dallas cowboys. They're the most publicized team in the world to me. I guess you could debate that with some of the big soccer franchises but but to me it can be a double edged sword because it can create a fat Cat Syndrome in which they all get overpaid and overrated. And we've seen a lot of that this year with demarcus Lawrence Zeke. You'll Elliott because I know what you mean by that because it's not have anything to do with success. This is because you guys hadn't been successful any very long time but that double edged sword the other side of it is it can eventually create what I call the Alley Cat Syndrome. We're all of a sudden. They just get it. They get me hungry and here they come when you least expect it. They just get sick and tired of hearing about how bad they are especially from the hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe Leader of the anti cow my lying skill. No you're not lying but this is going to be the first time all year that they rise up and they beat a winning football team because the rams our eighteen and five I know they had their struggles which were actually worse struggles than the cowboys had for a little while. But they're eight and five. There are winners of three of their last four their they're winners of five of their last seven and they're a talented. I think well coached football team. So they present obviously a huge challenge in one that my team will meet and spring back to life just in time to go to Philadelphia. I've told you from the start. The game I believed achieved in the most all year is that Dallas will win at Philadelphia so obviously as you point out. They don't need to win this game. They just better win this game and it's about what about your own pride. It's about self belief it's about faith it's about reaching down and saying we are this this good because a lot of players we are this goodwill they're still the number one ranked off in some pro football focus and we'll talk about that a little later okay and this game will boil down to the one player. I've trusted all your team. Dak Prescott will outplay Jared Goff UCF before okay. We'll hold on on. Thank you for bringing that up and opening that door for me. So these two quarterbacks who draft in the same draft men the first time in twenty seventeen whatever jerry world. The rams came back to win that game thirty five to thirty. But DAK way out play. Jared Goff knows he's Qbr for that game was eighty one jerk off at a forty six Dr three touchdown passes to one interception but completely statistically outplayed jared goff so again if we're talking about the head meeting Dak outplayed him. What happened in the playoff game? Game Rams One thirty to twenty two because of Jared Goff no it was not somehow ego that for the first down running the football. I'll get to that in just a second but this game. That Game Judi attended that game at the team here in Los Angeles. It was one week. After my defense had shackled shutdown suffocated the Seattle seahawks number one rushing attack. Held it to seventy three yards rushing jerry world in a playoff game. Who Knew how did they do that? They beat Russell Wilson. Twenty four to twenty two and it wasn't that close. He had one late garbage time. Okay I'm using your you're worried garbage touchdown because it was twenty four to twelve with under two minutes remaining and then it ended up twenty four twenty but the point was after they had done that at that team. They came right out here to Los Angeles. It was a Saturday night game and what happened. Two hundred seventy three yards rushing happen but one hundred and seventy of those yards came in the first half. Thanks in part to todd. Gurley but into larger part to C. J. Anderson who doesn't live in Los Angeles anymore right right though he's not a Ram Todd Gurley has sprung back to life. Yes some way shape and form. It's not like he's running for one hundred and fifty game but he had seventy nine yards nice when it was it. It was a good game. You're right they have recommitted to the Ron and I give them that but that night they really committed to the run two hundred seventy three rush yards against the same defense that it held the number one rush attack to seventy three. How can you explain guys? Don't handle prosperity. Maybe not I don't know but once again that at night my quarterback had a Qbr of eighty four and your quarterback now jared Goff had a fifty seven so he is dramatically outplayed him. Both Times comes in. It's about to happen again. This time at Gerry and this is what I don't understand skill you said Okay Jerry. Golf one every matchup that he is faced with his team has faced phased DAK Prescott in the cowboys and you said statistically he's outplayed but when I use that same argument to say Patrick Mahomes have outplayed. Tom Brady every rematch. You say who won the game and who made the plays who made the play that make sure Dak Prescott did not get the football back jared goff when they they were down at the Hale who came back out hit targets the touchdown right up the scene. Who Do those touchdown passes to get them back into the game and ultimately win the ball game with that Jerry? Golf Okay dinking dunk was mature. Okay look we're talking about last year. Tom Brady versus PAP right. Yes well in the first meeting. Tom Brady threw for one hundred. Eighty two in the fourth quarter. And you say your but Patrick's Tbo is a little better than Tom's a hundred and eighty two in the fourth quarter and two more touchdown and he filled in many passing yards passing touchdown. His Tom Brady so in other words by your metrics. But what you're using PAT mahomes. I'll play him but I say nothing but he didn't you. Could you could just see what happened in the fourth quarter and then in the AFC championship game. What happened in overtime? But they're huge. They're impossible no one's ever converted inverted three straight third and tens in overtime of a championship. Game nobody does that John elway piano to fourth and ten. AFC divisional game against the oil but has none in my business. Tom Brady was on the way to his six super bowl. We'll win. It happened to John. I don't. We lost the buffalo skill. Why you do this at some point in time you're GonNa have to realize that your guy gets a lot of this stuff in garbage time? That's what has been picking up a lot lately garbage and I heard I don't know if this is correct greg not the NFL game with a week here on Fox is also being simulcast on the history channel. Yeah because if you want to see Dallas anything you gotta go back in history to do. And that's what they do on the history channel they show history skill Betas. That's funny what can I do not laugh because you keep talking about the cowboys board. What you've done it in Michael Dougherty copy? I don't ever say that you haven't heard me say show you talk about how great your cowboys Albouy czar skilled. They've done nothing. I don't know how I don't care about that. I care about now fox game of the week and they've lost one thing this year. Only one thing they beat the stuffing out of your ego voted out one signature win the whole year. And you know what a big win. It kept opt him afloat. So you saying. That's your signature win a team that lost to the Miami Dolphins signature. We know that you're a team that lost it ain't to a team that lost to Detroit. I know that's your team back. Hold on your quarterback lost to the Detroit lions at home and then he lost to the Miami Dolphins. I'll know how your loss to Mitchell trubisky. Did Your Guy Lost Her. Josh Allen Ignite Guy Guy Okay but my guy is in first. SPLEISSON your guys in my guy first of all we have the same record. No we don't we have the tie-break tiebreakers rate you we to we're going to beat you again because we beat new four straight times first of all after you lose this game on Sunday we win on Sunday we'll be in first place scale Um well then there's still a big game. We're talking about that game. I'm sure we'll we're not going to lose already. TOLD YOU GONNA win this game if you beat around. He's got a notice this last game there donal sack and a half each game. He's backing level. Hee Lee Deliver Guard is in trouble. you know what Aaron Donald has played in both these games against my Dallas cowboys. Anyone I didn't even know he was in the maybe he'll it'll take you. Don't mind me thank done really well on air if you don't mind me asking we've got in that game because if you get somebody explain to me. How can dead press? Play all these games and give Jared Goff and not win any of who maybe his backup was. In how many Sachs's Aaron Donald Have Against The Dallas cowboys in his his career. How many out me out? How many are the question? Helped me out. How many we have zero many weird if Dak Prescott have against I really got? Will you brought him up. I slammed the door all know you keep telling me. Your quarterback is better than that quarterback walk anywhere that Aaron Donald Now is the best player in all pro football. I think I saw that guy last night. But that's a whole nother issue. Do you do once you become the bathroom. That's not for perpetuity opportunity. You don't get to be the best player ever you know you have to update your resume and so in other words I just want to know what is your guy. The update his resume. And get a win over the rams and Jerry God. When did that Happen Fox game of the week this Sunday? What is it for twenty five or twenty four twenty five eastern? You should watch. Oh you should turn up the sound until you get it rubbed in just about the game starts at four twenty five by four forty. He'll be down but two touchdowns okay. Four forty okay. So you wouldn't going to bet on this but I'll bet five cases all that we already got a bit. We already got case on this thing right here. We don't have any case we'll send it off the top listening I do. I'm not going to bet anything like five cases on the division I feel real good about. You shouldn't yeah. I'm in first displaced. We firstly with is the sick and tired syndrome is really going to kick in because this team is sick and tired right of hearing from you. How bad it is? It's sick and tired of hearing about how Jerry Jones has undercut Jason Garrett. How Jason Garrett is the lamest ducks gut coach? Whoever waddled to a game right yes? He's GonNa waddle all the way to this one. I hope he's irrelevant because they're going to win. In spite of him and in spite of all the distractions attractions caused by their owners slash. GM on his radio show this time when my quarterback says here we go skip. I have a hard time understanding this with this Jason Garrett phenomenon they win in spite of him but they lose because the him data strive told you that from the start until you that for three three years. Why did he give a little credit when they win? And all the blame when they lose widely awesome. I tried to get him fired back after the two thousand twelve season. And I said Ed from this point forward if they win they'll just do it by rendering him out of the whole of the guys want three division division titles since two thousand fourteen corral rayle unless you coach Belichick John Harbaugh. Maybe Mike Tomlin you can say that I told you it takes some external event like something from heaven sent can't requires DEMARCO. Murray suddenly leading the League in rushing and having one big career year it takes Dak Prescott falling out of heaven into Jerry's lap and Zeke dominating the NFL as a rule. That now is still with the cowboys. Do they still get high off into line and football. The cowboy ducks had a really good year. Got Garbage ours. But I'd be someone yard that Lamar Jackson get the game when the game is how. QBR Doesn't count garbage. George it eliminates he'll third and keep up. How did he go for? I dated. Because there's this guy named Lamar Watch your busy Z.. Laugh watching the history channel watching history but also watch to watch what he does when the game is seven nothing or seven seven fourteen seven. Thirteen fourteen. He's he's got more than he need him. I got to tell you that as ugly in humiliating as the lost Chicago was. I liked the way they finished that game because they did finish strong. And My quarterback will fight you to the death and he did have two hundred and twenty four for yards passing in the fourth quarter. And for what it's worth they did actually create two turnovers and they don't do this deal and they still caught an l. l. because the defense abysmal homo who created turnovers office created with quick offense. Take them all the way from office. oh now I can't defend it. You got me time to flip the script talking about your guy. We'll fight so you're WANNA fight wants to fight has been broke up and did you a big bubble grab a win. The game is out of hand and you'll got one to four hundred eighty yards in the fourth. Quarter this over. Take your back back to the sidelines. Get on that bus goes to the twenty. Take Your Butt back to Dallas. But you know half the golden book you don't have to get on a plane and go back home your car and your drive. You listen to your music. Put your boat. Because you know he'd be listening to listen to the you know doing that right now. He might be listening to Sinatra today or he'll go to timberlake Crimea. Riba listening to say so speaking. My quarterback here is going to be going to beat this time the key change. What I've I've been saying this over and over again and maybe somebody's listening to me because I would make a good next coach of the Dallas coat the fire starter on this team in the locker room in the huddle and especially in the field? The playmaker is number four. The quarterback more than number twenty one the running back. Okay number twenty. Anyone is gone five straight games without even cracking one hundred yards and I hope that changes it would help if that changed against the rams. But here's the key chains. That must be. He made. The quarterback must be allowed to run the football. Nothing ignites my team. More as we saw again and again last year then the quarterback order back running the football. I'm talking about called run here. Lamar Jackson read options quarterback draws bootleg capers. Whatever it takes to get two hundred? And I'm forty pounds in motion upfield because he will make plays and excite the offense it will jump start the offense and all I need to tell you. Is this this at this point last year. Dak Prescott had run sixty seven times so far this year same games. This many games aims thirteen games. Forty one Russia's sixty seven last year forty one this year. That's a dramatic drop off. And obviously summer scramble some recalled recalled and I've got the breakdown and it's about the same equivalent in each one but it's twenty eight scrambles last year with thirty nine. Call Sixteen scrambles this year to twenty five call so he's had fourteen more called runs last year. Then he's had this year you have to let him run the ball. They've tried to establish Zeke too often. On first down down he goes nowhere slowly tried establish got throwing the football. You going nowhere slowly. He only leads the League in that. Give you lead. Skip big about this. You lied to leak in passing yards. You Lead Thirty League and Qbr you. You lied to leak. And you're an offense but you think wins your quarterback. We blame anybody else. We would blame the quarterback but somehow ezek spot is. They're overpaid his land is demarcus Lawrence. You remove the D. from his name is all these miss. At what point is Jason Gear. Because you know they win in spite of him but they lose because of him at what point in time is it in a quarterback's waterbeds I told you he hasn't made enough key plays the plays. He's made a whole lot of plays a lot more than anybody else on. This team is made but the play that breaks open the game. He has not been the other teams. You remember those started where we green bay bill remember the. What for Buffalo help deal? I mean the Amari Mari Muffin to rescue those behind it. So Tony Pollard. I believe is healthy enough to play in this game as opposed to what happened in Chicago in Tony Pollard. Allard will make a difference in this game. I WANNA see some to back sets. I WANNA see some balls in Tony Hands. Because he's got some electricity to you can toss it to them. You can throw it to him. You can hand it to him. I WANNA see him help. Electrify the offense and ways. Zeke has not and I don't WanNa see Zeke have a season long long thirty one yard run and then go for foreign to say I guess get me out of here in the second told him probably the go for thirty one yards then okay. We'll easily allegation capable of doing but what he hasn't done. I appreciate you bringing up Marcus Lawrence because there's no D. in that would you call them and call them and he he spoke okay out this week he said. I'm here to testify testify. I will not know show anymore. I will not disappear anymore Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah blockade. Other words you're tired of the Blah here. I don't WanNa hear it. I want to sit there. It's time to rise and shine. It's time to earn your hundred hundred. Million Dollar contract testified. Yeah so in other words. He came before the congregation does he did been sending cowboy it always out there. Yes for forgiveness from now. Yeah you might need it for Monday's but not for me wishes score. Yeah what WHO's your score. Thirty one twenty seven Ram Ironic. Because I'd already written this down. Jimmy can all how weird. Thank you very much shame. I Have Dallas thirty one. Los Angeles twenty-seven Myers lipping your script. I am reversing your curse here. We go this is it. This is the launching pad game. It's the rams you know what in the end my team owes the rams and they know they. Oh the rams because of Graham's beat them twenty twenty seventeen at home but more important the rams beat them out here in a playoff game. I thought they did so they are owed and they will get repaid starting with number four the quarterback that you you just disrespect of what he he hears it he sees it and he will thrive on it on Sunday game of the week Fox toward twenty-five watch it turn up the sound and I want you to listen. I it's going to be the cowboys like the oil money. You don't WanNa pay. You beat them down when you can't tell widow by the happened on Sunday. The Cowboys Tuba. It's because the Vikings Rams Rams are just one game back for that six in the NFC no skin off. He likes that. But you don't go now with Nice nope the cowboys what it will feel good to knock the rams out of the playoffs. That's what's about to happen Doc. So the Ravens Clinch the AFC north last night behind both the legs and the arm of Lamar Jackson and they forty to twenty one blowout win over the jets. The more ran for eighty six yards last night which was enough to break Michael Vick single season. QB rushing records the MVP MVP. Front runner also had his third game of the season with five passing touchdowns. Mars thirty three passing touchdowns on the year now is not only the lead in the NFL. Oh but that also ties the ravens. Single season franchise record so Shannon. How impressive was Lamar? He's making it look easy. I think the thing is now. I think it's foregone conclusion he's going to be the MVP. The only question that I have is will it be unanimous. He's Yeah I'll just answer that right now. You they can do what he is guilt. Look what he's doing he's throwing a touchdown every eleven pass attempts. That's the best S. says Aaron Rodgers AB- surly forty five and six season. Let that sink in Peyton manning went fifty five ten. Patrick Mahomes with fifty and ten. If I'm not mistaken okay. So he's throwing a touchdown more often than those guys through touchdowns in those historic seasons. That's what he's doing then. You combine that with his legs get. We've never seen anything like this. We've never seen a guy he'd lead the League in touchdown passes skip he. NFL rushing. He's the quarterback. We've never seen anything like this. We've never seen a guy a guy that can run like this. Like I said Michael Vick could run like this okay. Let's let's just say for the sake of argument right now. They're equal skill. Michael Vick finished that season when he rushed for a over a thousand yard and broke the record. He threw twenty touchdowns. Lamar Jackson has has thirty three with two games to go who he's on pace to go over twelve hundred rush jars which is absurd. He's GonNa Finish somewhere between probably. I've fade what thirty five thirty eight touchdowns with that that body of work. He's number one in Cuba. He's he's the he. Tom Brady all all the only guys to throw five touchdown three times with zero interceptions. Yup He did that he did that. He what I've skipped. I've never perceive you as we were talking about. I've never seen anything like this guy. That in seven starts leisure throwing six touchdowns and you remember how it wasn't against the charges. They were booing him. We will flacco. He's gone from that to this. I've never seen anything like this. He's been unbelievable. Increased in a completion percentage about eight points skip. He's making throw that. Throw the Hollywood Brown on the move up in. The pocket wasn't easy to wonder Seth Roberts Robert wasn't easy he's making it. Look easy and I told Greg we have you bliss this kid and the guys run passive. He's going to jump out the window and you're GONNA be week in here and that's where they passing. He jumped out the window skipping next thing you know he's six yard that's what he can do. And what what is skipped you have to spread the field because you don't want him to get on age you see the first time you've got the last night they ran a design ruin. He got the edge and he picks up. Eighteen yard. Field is spread because you want to keep him cow condensed in the pocket. But when you do that you open a bigger throwing lanes and you see what I mean. He's hitting Andrews eating beef tight ends. He's it's been unbelievable. That was a great performance last night. I'm glad people are getting an opportunity to see what this young man is doing. I I can honestly say having played this game and watch this game. Nobody in Cam had an unbelievable season when he won the MVP. But not this not this. Nobody body I mean the guy's GonNa Finish top five. Russian go lead in bath does Dallas get. Who would ever saw that coming and to that point every once in a while something happens in sports earn my? We love sports do that. Nobody sees coming nobody. Nobody saw this coming though. Even the Great Ozzie. newsome a man you know very well in this was his last raw to trade up to the last pick in the first first round number thirty two to take this young man. I don't even think Ozzie saw this. If he saw this he would have traded up farther. I prayed somebody else would snatch. Yes in we got to hear the Great Joe Buck last night on the call in I thought of his father other Jack Buck and I don't know if you remember Jad do legendary play by play announcer nine thousand nine hundred eight world series game one out here in La. I was was covering the game and Kirk Gibson came off the bench with a pulled hamstring in hit a legendary game winning home. Run off Great Dennis. Actually and the line was from Jack. Buck I don't believe what I saw and that was ringing in my ears last night every other play that Lamar pulled pulled off. I was thinking i. I don't believe what I just saw because I know what I did see last year and by the way before that draft I said I really like Lamar. It's a project you're GONNA have to be patient with him but I think he can be pretty good in this lid. Do what John John Harbaugh. Did you take the kid and build the office around here okay. But nobody saw that. We saw him try to do that last year. I 'cause Lamar did. He started seven games last year. He played in all right so he got his feet wet. He got mixed metaphors. He got thrown into the fire. Grit and we saw some glimpses a brilliant yes at Kansas City. He hung right in there. It took down for the chief to beatty. It did and he was pretty good and that was probably his best game of the year but his Qbr for the whole year ended up forty six which was twenty eighth in the NFL so it wasn't wasn't predicting greatness eight nece in Cuba. He went to San Diego. He was saying he went to La charge a little Saturday night. All right but then to your point he winds is up in a home playoff game against those chargers and through three quarters he was three of nine for twenty five yards. Think about that. Yes that same guy. You've have you been seeing night after big stage night. He was three of nine for twenty five yards through three quarters and then they rallied in the fourth. They were down. What was it? Twenty three two three three with nine minutes left and they rallied. Cut It to twenty three seventeen but it really. Wasn't that close right. How do you quantum leap from that performance comments to what happened? You could see it in game one this year at Miami. He went home to Miami and he just lit up the dolphins and we weren't sure we with the dolphins were were just auto Detroit taking too okay but again I thought they got some talented but he just destroyed opening day remember that yes and he really hasn't look back. They have lost a couple of games. He Lost City and then Baker went in there and let them up and Lamar played pretty well. That game but Baker played a little better and the browns played a little better than the Ravens did right and forty points but the point now is and you've brought this up regularly but it so many they haven't just stacked winds they've they've stacked impressive wins. They went to Seattle and one thirty two sixteen. They beat the Patriots on a Sunday night. Thirty seven to twenty Houston with their loss. Forty one to seven. This is toying with the rams on Monday night football in their building. Forty five to six. Are you kidding me. Forty five to sit. And that's that's not even fair and then they did beat the niners so there's a big quality win and it was twenty two seventeen but it really wasn't isn't that close to me and they went to buffalo and that was that was a key significant win twenty four seventeen and then last night I thought maybe the jets could hang in just had a couple early chances. But it's forty two to twenty one and to your point after a while it was like a frolic. He's just having fun. And it wasn't like he was showboating. showboating or grandstanding or hot. Dogging you just really having fun and skip. They have so much confidence in him. John Har- by listen to the NFL when he's miked up and he said what you're doing is not easy that throw because he's talked about buffalo last week gift. He's like what you just did. That's not easy and you can go for early on fourth down but the second fourth down Lamar's like no I got it. I got this skill. When you think about a team that can run the ball for two four thousand one fourth and one and a half and you think about a team? That's running the football for over two hundred yards a game. You think they're going to run the ball. Lamar throw the football for a first down. That's what you do with Aaron Rodgers. That's what to do we're Brady. Oh four value put the ball. You Bet flares hand you say throw it right this guy leg namic. No Lamar throw it correct. So so I repeat the reason. This is so revolutionary to my eyes is because to my test. He is now easily the best running back in football. He's better than he's better than Zeke. Better than Dalvand. He's better than little McCaffrey. He's better than any of them with the football tucked under his arm. He is is also become as deadly a throw the football as we see in this whole league you can have drew brees. You can have Tom who throw them all in there. This kid is deadly accurate he just flips missiles. And just when you think it's safe to say oh he just dinks and dunks for the most part he will launch a missile from sixty yards. And the one. I thought his best tonight was the pass interference in the end zone of Hollywood Brown. Do you have that play. There's another one that we're seeing all of his touchdowns here. Here's the missile to Hollywood one leg on the move. Yeah that was the night because that was going to be a job Eh in that ball travels a real easy sixty yards in the air. So don't tell me I have a big arm. In for the touchdown I think you see him. sloughed a lot of the pocket and then flip it side chart changes arm angles and get the ball. Like is nothing yes. I think last year why he struggled so much. This wasn't great Romans off often. This was Marti morning. We that was put in to accommodate Joe FLACCO. That's they're trying to put things together on the fly. Now we get an entire offseason to come. What would esteem Greg Roman nose this game? He put his game in that. He'll Colin Kaepernick in the board of that and get to the super bowl against this bay ravens team so we have an entire offense to work on a scheme scheme for this guy to get comfortable because I can assure you. They talked about it for Torino and they got a lot of those plays that they read it. For the Raven they got those from Louisville Body for Trina and heave. If comfortable skip look. There's this thing about coat sometimes called you get lazy. He can't run my system Every quarterback this starting today is in a system that accommodates what they do really. Well John Harbaugh said man. I'm tired of just going prototypical. Let me get fixed by drop back in. Let's go from there. How about we get a guy that this athletic because somebody won the heisman trophy your sophomore year threw for three thousand yards ramp of fifteen hundred? Somebody did that he did. So how about we get that guy bill office around him and go from there. Yeah and that's what that's what they've done and he's rewarded them. You see quarterback by the position. We look at quarterback and it's always been this way skilled in Lucio. You'll see the way those guys respond to this kid. The lion the running back the defence to receive hit the coaches. They cannot wait to talk about him from praises. That's it yes. I agree the flip side of that and we just talked about my Dallas cowboys. You Know How many times my offense has gotten in the Red Ed zone this year. Were I'm on the floor like I'm on my knees there grinding into the red zone and I'm saying okay I'll take three but please just just once give me six just wants give me seven please. Almost eight point now they get inside the ten yard they get I go they go overboard down. Okay well to your point. Guess what the Baltimore Ravens now have have thirty. Nine Red Zone. Touchdown drives that is by far number one in the national football league in gold to go situations first and goal nine eight seven whatever. They have twenty seven touchdowns. That's by far number one in the. NFL Why is that because the quarterback is operating with such a high IQ. He's processing so quickly he's making it look simple to get the ball neons. Don't it's not simple are is very hard to get that in there. Because he looks like right he was just saying you know what I think. I'll throw it to snead this or I'll throw it to mark Andrews give you know the thing is it's almost like late and situations you go third Dow now and you call them plays knowing that going on fourth down. Yep I believe they get into the dig into the red zone especially the goal to go situation. I believe they call him. Plays to know they're going for it on fourth down. They have that much confidence in him. See Sola Frase. How'd you skip? He got he gets up. He's GonNa beat you to the corner. Yeah you missed right him as one responsibility ability he's GonNa find the open guy. Grieve wide open four touchdowns. Unbelievable what we're seeing. I don't want people to say well anybody no no no. What you're seeing is very very unique? You might not see it again because the thing was going to happen. Skip in his own fault. He's GonNa have so much success. It's kind of like Patrick Mahomes Syndrome. What if you don't go for fifty two thousand ten every single year? What may Lamar Jackson? What happened to Lamar nothing? That's a historic season. You'll wow historic season historic season historic season. But May and I I just. I've never seen anything like this. Did you see him last night. He he brought jerseys on the field he knew people go warning jerk already. Many though did he have because I love it ultimate respects yes. Did you see what Tom Brady. tweeted out you want race grasp but you were rollerblades. 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NFL teams mm scoring since week nine but players in New England are saying confident with James White saying quote. Everybody sees light at the end of the tunnel so Shannon you see a light at the end of their tunnel. Yeah that's all coming train. Run they but over was at the end of the tunnel to God. Ain't groggy coming back and you can't get Amendola Hogan you've got what you got. Don't won't people won't do believe that the Patriots alone managing that digits going to flip the switch COMPLA- off time and boom. This is it. This is what you have. You can't run the football Tom Brady and now you're asking Tom Because your office is not big. Play you asking Tom to continuously. Go thirteen fourteen. Seventeen plays to get into the end zone skip. Did you know that the defense have allowed fourteen points in three game this year. Guess what their record deals over in the fire last five games there are two and three in those games one game. Hey the defense cable T.. In the game to that was to a fairly. The next game gave up nine to the cowboy and they won seventeen ten. They want thirteen nine. So when you give up more than fourteen this is Google and they just. Don't give a forty gigabyte the pound. is they give a big numbers and the right now and the Patriots Camp Maj. That's they don't have the personnel. The light at the end of the tunnel. Yes if the defense is going to get those turnovers like they did earlier skippy. Can you remember the first day game just seemed like every week getting to three interceptions. They were getting scooping scores. Well if you're going to get that yeah because off is not going to have to do a whole lot of heavy lifting but if you're GONNA ask this offense to have to do some heavy lifting and we knew this was going to happen if they play a team that can score that can get to twenty one that can get to twenty four. You're going to be a struggle. Because they don't have they don't have they can't hit you with one play over the top the gadget you could throw the ball run the ball to the running back into he throw it back guitar. Brady Tom Thumb down the field but as far as just Tom Dropping back and they get fifty yards or sixty are doubts. That's not happening so I don't see that light at the end of the tunnel that they're talking about the if I would look at this get. I believe the ravens achieve and Texans do not fear. The Patriots is to get to the playoff time and I hope we don't have it later. Bravery who now would that offense. I WANNA play them. Can't fix it. They're done right. Skip if the let me tell you. Now how many of the deep historic they'd be only as far as points allow the average of less than thirteen game. They've given a fourteen point three times this year. They're over. Let us thinking for secondary said that. Okay so we got it. So so what's what's going to the whole the whole you the fourteen. Hello Tom Brady could get to fifteen sixteen but how many times they WANNA game when it's in the twenty s okay so why. Why is all that because right now? Tom Brady's plane behind. The worst offensive line is ever played behind in his twenty years pro football Sunday the Patriots were down to do they their third string center and we're not sure whether the second or third teamer will be able to play this week and the Patriots are now plummeted down onto twenty third in rushing and they are by far number one in drops. They're receiving core. You could argue is as bad as any receiving core in pro football all there are there are saying twenty set will again despite. That's injury related. Not Not when you had the full complement right so oh right now pro. Football Focus says the Patriot receivers ranked twenty second in separation. The Best Patriot receiver gets double team nearly every play Julian Louis an element and he is in his eleventh year and he is just beat all to hell because he is what I would call as high a contact receiver as there is out there because he gets hit. Nearly every time he catches the football he gets hit twice or three times. Gilbert is hard to not be a collision gap. You played the slot and a lot of contact of the guys got. I don't know but he's obviously got big guts. He's also got big drops this year. He leads the League with eleven. Drop Pass So. Can Tom Trust that. Every we'll maybe not James White. Maybe those are the two high target receivers Julian and James White tight ends as a group have the fewest. They have one touchdown down past his group. So it's not exactly Rob Gronkowski and I can make a case that the whole group is the worst group of tight ends in the league and you look at what Lamar's playing with boy. Every time I look up another other tied in is catching another football hers oil. They're pretty good. They are okay. So what does this all boils down to. There's only one hope one hope and I said had it before the you know the day after the draft. Nikiel Harry is a stud. I don't know what's happened to him this year. He was limited in practice this week with what they put on the injury report as a hip injury is that what's going on here. I don't know because they're not worried about. How did he get hurt? He Blade you snap. So what did you hear running on pill was he hurt already because he must have the year some foot injury but I don't know if that led to a hip injury possibly could have. I don't know he played two snaps in that game against Kansas City. And I don't get it. Because almost every touchdown yeah we've seen by patriots standards to recent splash plays and I'm putting big quotas around the splendid landed we saw mceal Harry catch a touchdown pass against Dallas. It was the only touchdown in the game on a bad weather day but he snatched it right. Remember that order talk and then we saw what should have been a touchdown against Kansas City. They were the two who sort of sat back and said Ooh I kind of like that. So there's one guy on this whole team who might a little bit scared the other the rival defensive coordinator in its Nikiel Harry who played to snaps in the last. Let's give this. I just have a hard time and going back to my nose because you know I write everything down every every section meeting it all my notes I write them down. Now we've been on air for three years and Tom. Brady's won two super bowls and I and I was trying to find where we had mentioned his offensive line. And I couldn't find it. You know my nose the chronicle I got on the twelve twelve twenty nineteen. We're back to eighteen seventy anything. The thing that everybody says Tom Tom Brady can take any receiver and make it work now. The Tom Brady can't make it. Work is to receive was told me all along this for twenty years. You Tom Brady get take chicken chicken chicken salad out of it he cannot will. He did it earlier this year. He actually went out before game. In point up in the stands to this little guy whose name was GONNA row chefs. You said. Will you come down here and play for us. And Gunner was actually playing really well could return punts and he can catch passes. He's on injured reserve. They lost another guy to injured reserve. Maybe gunner would have changed Tom. Brady's life skill on all I'm saying is if you say the guy can do and then all of a sudden he isn't doing it. Don't blame to receivers because they're still bringing the same caliber the same level of receivership. The Tom Brady has always had you said this is. This is coach Belichick. Nikiel Harry is a coach. I first round draft pick it received with this fifties been in New England always taken receivers in the late around and the one that he's taken early has never panned out. So he's always gotten the undrafted free agents or he made the trade for the he amendola be afraid the ramp but with working with the trade with West with the fridge so he's always taken Laura round draft picks or three hits and Tom Brady has made them now. I say you just made the case that bell checks inability to find her acquire receivers devers is a liability for Tom Brady over his career. Nine because coach Belichick proper for the first time in his life would listen to what everybody says. Tom Brady can make it work Tom. Tom Brady is next to Jesus remedy took water and made it. Why and so? Tom Brady can do that so now. Sudden everybody comes to drink wine Jimmy. We've still got got water. The Cook are you Jesus anymore will at some point. You need just a little bit of help somebody you. You don't even have gun or any more. So here's the point. You need an Akil Harry to grow upright before your various. It's the only hope this team has right now. Is that suddenly out out of nowhere against Cincinnati which has given up the thirty first most yards Tequila Harry catches five balls for seventy five yards. And you say here they go. Oh this this is gonNA come down scale if the Patriots are to go where you believe in many think they can. This is going to be led by the defense. And they're going to have to limit people from score they. They're what people say. They are historic. They will have to be historic. Because I was on that Baltimore Ravens team. They will his story. You did get it carried to us. I mean that Ravens Teen Gabe sixteen total points in four games. That's historic okay. So Jenny ended our last conversation saying Tom Brady did. tweet about Lamar Jackson. I thought this was a hopeful. Sign that Tom kind of came out of hiding a little bit all goldline's like yeah. This wasn't mopey Tom Anymore. He was having a Lotta Fun. He was excited about watching Lamar. And he says he's being self-deprecating meal amarna forty except on grass he wears rollerblades a man of the say in Africa they say if a Black Mamba on behalf to bite you. Say The thing that you should do is just go. Sit Up on the shea tree and like a man be resigned to your fate. I'd go to the awesome Tom Brady. Tom Brady is resigned to his fate keyed knoll. What's happening because he has nothing on that roster currently currently it's true like I said if that deep is going to be historically great like they give up twelve points a gate twelve like twelve eight twelve nine now? They're going to have to cut that in half unless they give short field. Because that's what skipped big about it with ten thirty five left. In the game coach Belichick went for an all-out block. 'cause he says my offense can't move the ball I you gotta give them short fields. What he's saying? Okay so gut feeling right now Patriots lose their first playoff game. It all depends on the match you could get. I mean if they want to be a bad man I mean say you miss running. You must run and get Houston Texans a team that can score now we have. You never know what Houston in Texas because we got the shot wasn't who really should I think he was off if the player of the week and the next week he come and get our played by drew up. So I don't really know what we're GonNa get but I tell you what Kansas City having one in New England is an unbelievable feeling to win somewhere and have to go back there. Because you know you can do it. Okay well the Texans. No they ages. Did it at home right because we have with us in Tennessee skip. We have beaten Tennessee in Tennessee. We're the first team to beat them in. It used to be called Adelphi. We had to go back there. The divisional man. We just can't them for weeks ago. We got some awesome. Let's talk about the cowboys. They're looking to snap their three game. Losing streak this weekend and they're six and seven record is one of the biggest surprises in the NFL. This season primarily because the perception in the media that Dallas has the most talented roster in the NFL but troy Aikman spoke to a local radio station yesterday and explain that it may be time uh reevaluate that claim. Listen here locally. I listened to the various shows. I certainly read the newspaper and the discussion is. Is this team really as talented own. It as as what everyone thought coming into the season and I've reached out to a lot of people around the leaks that have played the cowboys that have studied them on film. And there are coaches at think this is an overrated roster. Well much truth cut deep. Maybe you not a EH Lotta true. There's a lot of truth in this because the easy trap to fall into Janney because you know y you look at an offensive line and you got four guys. There's paid tops at their position. So you got your left. Tackle you center your right guard. You're right tackle. Their top their top three top four at their position. You look at the running back. He's number one at his position. You you go to the defense of side. You look at a demarcus Lawrence. He dies pay difference of football. You look at Gina Smith. Now he's into the mix so you look at these contracts and people automatically. I think he makes a million bucks make no student. He makes fifty million dollars. He's gotTa be good. No no no and Jason Garrett gets the blow. Oh because everybody says will. Jason can't coach. What about the players? That's not living up to their contract. Told me their office supply. We get the week the opposite wind. Got The royals tales kick Golden Golden Golden Goal overpaid. Yeah got their gold entails kick you tell me it seemed like the running back. The ninety million dollar running back is still rooted in Kabul and the Margaret Line. Say That again. You read an demarcus laws. He refused he just laws he just Laurie now. More call Jalen Jalen Smith so. That's what's happening skipping that everybody when you look at it from the outside and you see these big names and you see the contracts that they're being paid you automatically think that's talent Allah but that's not how it works. They have not performed at some point in time. We need the whole players accountable for not doing living up to what they're being paid. Instead of being have Jason Garrett is really low hanging fruit. It's easy to blame him. The office a lot has been a disappointment. If you WANNA say Zeke. It's been a disappointment. Okay so be it but I tell you who who defended the biggest disappointment. Is that defense. Skip that Defense Bill Biz. -Mell it has and so there's no way around it to say over the tap where where does over there no they don't they don't have a little quickly there. No no no. We need to stop this scale because everytime you look at it. ooh Guys Zeke and Yada Yada Italian the not told you this we need to stop say talent talent talent. What do you win with that talent? I don't think they're talented. It is people agree with Troy. I don't think they're talented. If people think they are but because they get big dollars give dollars Odi talented. That's not the case yet. You you have said several times many times on the show this year. This is a loaded football team skill. If you look I mean they have depth. They have everything but you look at Byron Jones Has Byron played. Anything close to what he played like last year. Yes I think he has to figure. Put it like this year. He picked the wrong here. He should've had the year last year. He should've had it this year. He'd been highest paid coming up steele. Might because you're GONNA be free in Dallas this show New England. Let's give offense allies scale your defense. You mean to tell. Tell me that they played to what you thought they would considering that you've seen that but that's not overrated. That's definitely overpaid underachieving But not overrated. We're talking about. Everybody Swung and missed. They thought so. And so was this good. And he's really average. That's what you're talking about overrated. Maybe maybe skip at some point time they were. But as his age and attrition. You see the offensive line is starting to. What did you say about dragging agan that bag? Is You get your money and you lose your edge. Do some do some do. I'm afraid a whole bunch of these have okay if if you want me to boil it all the way down there are two positions on my defense that are way overrated but I never read it in the first place the safeties. That's an ironically the name position because they're not very safe either one of them. Jeff Heath I think is going to be back this week. But he's got to banged up shoulder begged or what. What if I told you from the start? He's he tries. You try hard is hard. But he's he's below average. He'll he'll be where he's supposed to be skipped. He won't make any wild plays if he's not gonNA be a problem or anything like that now but he'll be wearing supposed to be right and he'll make the play that he spoke to me another spectacular. Just a solid football player Xavier Woods. It's just it's just average at best. So you have average average Schwab Jerry. Just he came within like a hair at the trade deadline headline of acquiring Earl Thomas a year ago. Remember that I thought I think the rug got jerked out from under him. He said we thought it was for one all sudden. It's supposed to be for two ones or one it really is. And so you know Jerry got his pride up and said okay. That's the end of that deal. And then they kicked the tires Jamal Adams this year and I thought maybe I'm not a big Jamal Adams fan but still upgrade these two. Yes he he could play by himself in the secondary me better than these two. So now. That's where it's overrated. Great Okay those two other than that. What did we see from those two kid linebackers? Last year I talked about Vandross Shane Ryan Smith who now looks like just another Smith. That's how he's been playing ladling. Feeling leading Vandereycken has got a neck injury. In to your point this could be career threatening at least in the sounds like he's going to be gone for the year give kind of hard is Jeff Heat with shoulders is kind of. It's kind of hard to have shoulder injury. THEM NICK INJURIES IN A game. Would you use your neck and your shoulders. Hot contact alar Becker Nick and yet who had missed the most tackles on the Dallas cowboys before he got hurt was latent vander. He's still leads. The League in tackles and he's missed less. I mean leads. The team entitled Miss Tackles and he's missed the last four games so the point is what are we see again what I saw last year. Memory is drew brees those two linebackers linebackers and they took the marines. Russell Wilson and that vaunted rushing number one rushing attack. Those two kids took the game over. So does that mean they're overrated or or what happened to Jalen Smith get his money and lose. What little well maybe we? Maybe we jumped the gun. Maybe maybe maybe skit we heat too much phrase and said look look at them look at them and we didn't let this thing play out a little lower than what we what we should have. We should let it go a year or two to elite the bare minimum two years. Okay because earlier I agree with you. They will find around making play. Janus knocking people out and we're talking about side line to side leading people. He doesn't look if I was him. I would probably lose is like pinpoint because he looks to me. I'm with you on that. And then we get to Demarcus demarcus Lawrence who used to be demarcus Lawrence. He's a pro bowl. Oh Pass rusher. He deserved all broke all pro. Where where is he now? I don't know I keep telling you my pass rush comes goes but it mostly just goes because they're not there. I'll see flashes from Robert Quinn. But there's a reason to teams. Let him go. There's a reason okay. But he'll give you burst the flash yes here and there. Michael Bennett has given them a lot of little flashes but is takeover the game player at this stage in age. I always say Robert Quinn. Would it'd be better skip if you only played him. Say like thirty snaps and those snapped were where he could just rush the passer when you ask him to try to play forty five fifty maybe a lot of a lot of the snaps APPs teams can wear them. Because he's not that big of a guy he's more of us at this juncture career he the specialist and he will perform better in that in that kind of a row. But I agree with you skip I I just think the thing is that when we look at this team and we look at like man look at office life got no okay. It has an plus what what can be the worst debilitating injury you can have especially for a big offensive lineman. Tom Smith has a back that the plagues him Zack. Martin has a back that plagues Sam Crouch over down and your stance and you can't get Outta your stance we all right. And God bless Travis. Frederick he came off the syndrome and it was hard in a lot of people think. He's the Comeback Player of the year. But he doesn't he's not wreaking quite the same havoc he's when we look at the Dallas Office Alaska. If you remember in two thousand fourteen you remember twenty sixteen. They will opening gaping hole gaping holes and they did at one time this year against the giants at the giants and Zeke said. I've never seen gene bigger than this. Since Pop Warner we used to see that six seven eight times I gear. I agree now. We get at one time of year. Okay so again not overrated but old getting older. I'll give you that that's possible. Skip the see the thing about sports. You know I love about this. You can talk about it. Would eventually you'll have to show me what you're talking about. The markets were doing. All this talk is love. What time I'm going to watch the game you are I? I'm GonNa need to see what you what you what you what you're trying to sell me. I finally the by right now. I'M GONNA pay a Brooklyn because I don't see it. By the way the guy in this organization you talks the the biggest and the most is the owner. GM and I'm looking at all the contracts. He's doled out and I'm saying too much too much too much too much too much right overpaid well. Some of that has got to fall on the owner. I mean he's played paying them. Because I believe every guy that he paid had earned that contract but the obligation immensely. This is what this is why they say we don't like to give guaranteed contracts every other sport them for the most part basketball baseball. They're getting three twenty four to forty five got it but football players if the guide if the guy doesn't do supersede what he did to get that contract you'll see the money. He ate his name. Yeah so the final irony is the one player I trust. The most is my quarterback who still relying on a fourth round rookie. When he you get the photo meal what are you going to get? You're going to get one hundred and fifteen guaranteeing don't care care. Only about four twenty five on Fox on Sunday game of the week. Thank you the only major two million but he gets completely every. I just worry about my receivers catching you were about to take from our Jackson us both his legs and his arm. A forty two twenty one blow win over the jets. That's Lamar ran for eighty six yards on eight carries last night which was enough to break Michael Vick single season. QB rushing record. Lamar's thirty. Three passing touchdowns comes on the year. Not only leads the NFL but also ties Raven single season franchise record for touchdowns Baltimore Not only clinched the AFC north last night but can clinch homefield throughout the playoffs. As soon as this weekend if Kansas City and New England both loose so Shannon does the mark make the Ravens the runaway favorites favorites join the Super Bowl. No but I think they do deserve to be the favourite considering that they beat some of the top teams they beat especially in the AFC. They beaten on New England. They beat the Texans They lost ironically they lost to Kansas City in Kansas City. Became city would have to come to them they beat the forty nine of the NFC scale they beating the Seattle I think they definitely deserve to be the favorite but not the runaway. Because we we we've seen the forty niners play them head. Hey on their in their field obviously the conditions but the conditions will what they were both teams. It was a twenty. What twenty seven to twenty point right? So the chief the saints can put points on the board. The questionnaires is II. Believe For for this for you beat the the Ravens you. You're going to probably have to get to probably thirty thirty one points. But you'RE GONNA happen. You have to hopefully get a turnover because what the ravens can do skip when you can run the ball over two hundred yards. They're going to minimize. Your chances are putting points on the board. That's what they do. They hope they all they all the ball last night. I think the jets got him because because they scored so quick. I mean you think of running team and in five plays there in the end zone seven plays there in the end zone. You running teams twelve fourteen. Sixteen eighteen play drive. They can do that but they also got big. Play potential hints. Seth Roberts over the top Hollywood Brown over the top. He missed a bear. Easy throw could have like a big long touchdown to the big tied in Andrews. Did but skip node. Should they be the favorite. Yes runaway lock stock and barrel. No because I believe they're two teams. I believe the saint and the clothes and then AFC yeah. I think the The Kansas City chiefs would be would be tough for them no matter where they play especially we in Baltimore is notably. The chief will call a problem so I hate to admit this publicly but right now I see a runaway runaway. The great thing thing about your sport of football especially pro football that I love the most is. It's such a team game. There are fifty three men on this team fifty three but every once in a while out of nowhere the fifty three can unite and ignite in. It's almost magical inexplicable hot. What happens and it's this contagious? Chemistry Camaraderie and I'm seeing it spilling all over these ravens. Now because you brought it up just how much fun they're having. It's coming so easy for them. And they love their young quarterback in there playing hard for him. They're making place for him because he's making all a lot of place for them they're just feeding off each other and the pro football focus today. That said the defense is revolutionizing the way you play defense because they lost their best pass rushers obviously in all of a sudden. It's the back seven that is dominating as opposed to the front four but they blitz like crazy wink link where flying low than Darius Middle Danny Low folks and they lost saw. Can you imagine but they knew that mean alward pass rush. Yes yes there. You're building block pass or say. Oh now what. Guess what. And I'm not the big Marcus Peters Fan but he will make key players he he is fitting into that second thought he had a peak last night. He's gone it was given. Here's the thing with the way he plays football. You gotta be careful in the playoffs because you go for pick and the guy catches it and you see what happened. He tight roads now. He ran out of room but he almost went to the distance on that. And that's what you he. They feast or famine corner. And it's good when he's feasting because he'll make you pay as Russell Wilson. He's got a couple of guys sleeping on him but style scares me in the playoffs. Get because one game you know. It's not like baseball or basketball where you've got to beat me four times if one gain we've seen a funny byles here then I got it. Well IT BRINGS BACK TO MY Super Bowl pick which was patriots now. It's pretty clear the Patriots are going to have to go through Baltimore again. They went there on a Sunday night and they both basically got their blow their doors blown off and it was thirty. Seven to twenty in. Lamar was great. He's the brighter. The Lights Primetime prime time boy. He is really good is so can I make any case right here right now that the Patriots could go to Baltimore and pull off what I would consider right now. A huge upset when you call that when you said we'd be bigger than what they did against Kansas City last year. Yes I would okay and I know Patrick. Holmes was the runaway MVP VP last year. But the mobile okay. They had played him and beaten right home and they had outscored him at home. I think they had some confidence. We can move the ball on on that defense. I don't know if they have any confidence. He insists defense and furthermore and worse. I'm not sure bell. Check has a whole lot of confidence that you can slow down that Juggernaut or not. It will be very interesting to see how he plays because if you remember when they played the first time on the Sunday night they played a lot of cover to they played a lot of zone coverages then they show up in Kansas the city in all they play they play mad. They played zero coverage and it took a half for them to realize you know they're playing straight man coverage they're playing zero coverage and they're bringing people down any picked up was killed. I would never play zero coverage against this kid because if you miss him is over you you guys are running with the bats to to him and so by the time they realize they turn around turn around. He's twenty five yards deep and good luck. Tackle Him with a wide open field. I don't care who you're. DB's DB's are in a wide open field. They're not going to tackle him. Skip one on one so as possible. The Genius Bill Belichick kept most of his stuff under wraps. Maybe on that Sunday Sunday night at Baltimore was he already gauging looking ahead thinking. We're going to have to come back here and beat them. Because we're not GONNA be able to allies. I mean I thought I do do think he thought they would probably have to see them again. I don't know if he thought they would probably have to go back there considering that you know. Luckily we look at we got we got. We've got the cowboys we feel. We can beat them up the Houston Texans I think he could win their right. Yep Yep and then all of a sudden now if I think they thought they could beat the homes at Foxboro. Yeah absolutely but it seems like now all the Ravens have to do is win one of the last two games and they have home field advantage throughout in the playoffs. So we'll see I mean everybody's scale the thing is you don't do what you can do in basketball low man. We get the player. Do you play you. Put your best foot forward but you said something very interesting about how the team Galvan and you skip having been in locker room there's one championships. The team is really close. We did things to go. We go to the movies and I mean it would be five six o'clock at night and guys like man you're GonNa get me the board. We're playing cards we're playing. We're doing things that the team would save thing when I went to Baltimore. We did things as a team together to go over to rave how we let his mom would cook and we do things like fooled. A team got really close. That's a really close to you. It's happening you can see Yes for your very yes so my bottom line of this is I can only see one. MM team beating this team in the playoffs and that includes the Super Bowl. And that's new England just because they have a history of figuring it out I just don't I don't know if they have the pieces to figure it out with but I don't think San Francisco or New Orleans can beat team in the Super Bowl. I just it'd be it's going to be tough on a new but thank you because the thing is what they can do. Drew brees unlimited possessions. Yeah they they can hold a ball for thirty four thirty five minutes and I don't know when you hold up all that long skip you have to take unnecessary risks. Because you don't know how many opportunities you're GonNa get to come back the question for the Patriots. Can they hold them to left in twenty plus points. Because that's the thing you know they're gonNA move the ball they're gonNA score. Do you believe that Tom Brady in Baltimore. Goal scored thirty with. We've grown coming. I can't see it. That's what is going to have to be either defense. Hold him in check or Tom Brady shootout and I just I just don't know we can win a shoot I what he has. I would agree with that to your initial point. I think the only way that you're going to beat Baltimore. Baltimore is Baltimore is going to have to beat itself. South to self destruct. There have to turn it over however it happen they do. A great job had game skill as much as they run the football. They don't put it on the ground right. Do not all that Lamar then the belly. And you know you don't know where I even. As as me with his decision making his poise. This and how carefully Lee is is he protects the football in high risk situations rattle. Now they do. But he's doing it at the highest read hopeless and bad readily. Maybe you get forty. Maybe you get. The wind had him buffalo with rainstorm. That you got the against San Francisco and you make a neutral plan feeling you hope you get some turnover here or there but but other than that man. That's tough out there tough out. It feels like it's a ravens a year. Something is going on there. That's pretty special. Take in order to snap Dallas out of its recent three game losing streak. Jason Garrett led a unique film session for his team. Garrett showed a highlight alight real of the cowboys making plays from the past two seasons to remind the team. Just how good they are. Geared apparently did the same thing after Dallas previous S.. Three game losing streak earlier this year and the team responded with their best win of the season a thirty seven two twenty win over the eagles which we know well around here. Now that Game Shannon. How much will this help will? It can't hurt and now I was going to say well. It should have done earlier but clearly he did do it earlier on I guess it resonated for one game within resonate much longer than the basket I think it helps a lot and a lot of ways because when you lose you automatically thing we did everything Enron all three phases. We did nothing right but you can pull plays special teams defense offense and show. Oh we can do some good things. I remember going into into our first super bowl for the playoffs. Ninety seven Mike had a clip. Had A montage you'll about four or five minutes long Mike Shannon Mike Shanahan and it was said to the music when we were kings skill when Mike and Mike cut that tape off and cut them light zone motion guy and I mean I had goosebumps as they beat us. Nobody's beaten US killed and then hopefully it resonates with them like it did with us because you are you are I mean look I understand. You've lost some games and you know we had remembers get we had lost three or five that ninety seven yeah At the starting ninety one but my like hold on guys. Do I need to remind you. Look look into play the difference maker Dispatcher. Team big in Shannon. We'll get a plane. DD looking good book with them. Football team you just need to know your good football football team in seeing that reminded us will maybe seeing these. This montage were reminded. What are we playmakers? We could make plays let's see You respected Mike Shanahan. In fact you've you've admitted you feared Mike Shanahan. Yeah Mike Shanahan. Was this strongest voice. In Your Locker Room Yours was very strong his stronger he even he was one octave above you in the locker room. The buck stopped with him with Jason. Garrett is this locker room has tuned him out. They don't hate him and they don't love him. They're not going to quit on them because they're not going wanted to try to save his job either because he is a non entity non factor so whatever he does again. I appreciate the attempt here and maybe we'll be a good thing but I doubt it'll have any I hope it does but I sincerely seriously doubt it will have any impact. It's just not what he does or who he is. Mostly they just tune it out and I can't get out of my psyche. The series I watched two years ago. Twenty seventeen seventeen on Amazon called all or nothing where they did the whole year inside the Dallas cowboys in there was endless footage. I mean endless footage of Jason Garrett a AH addressing the entire football team in their little theatre of their room where they have a tiered yet have stadium style stadium style seats and they have the cameras zoom in on various players faces. They'd be doodling. They'd be just gazing into the distance. Their minds I would be wandering all over the country probably but they were not listening to what their head coach was saying because it just drones on and on he's just vanilla he's red but he's read Vanilla and that's my problem with you. Need external motivation. Which is why I opened the show by telling you? This is a hit bottom autumn week. We're the the overexposure. This team has to media. Attention can turn into a good thing because it it can go from turning you into fat cats into his. I told you early like alley cats because at some point all that bombardment of media attention is so severely negative. It's so relentlessly negative. You missed nineteen tackles and Jerry. Jones is gonNA fire Jason Garrett. He's the lamest ducks whoever waddled to a football. And we're we're with all that at some point it's external motivation to where if finally just detonates in the locker room we're sick and tired of hearing about how shameful we are how we're we. We've embarrassed the the tradition of the Dallas cowboys. That's what it takes the thing the problem that that you run into is that Jason Nudge. Excuse me Jerry has raw jason of his ability to govern okay is like two parents one parent says No. You can't do it. Go ask the other parents and the parents yes I can. Basically you rob the pair said no of his or her ability to have the same influence. Well see the players know now. If I say something to Jason Jason No. I'm going to Jerry first of all if you ever try to go behind Mike's back and talk commits to be about something might go I got I got it. So you're right there. There's a fine line here. The thing is like Mike. Would we be a practice. This would ask somebody. Okay this guy does this. Would you got well. You gotta be able to tell him what did you do. So you've been studying and playboy. I got it. He kept. He kept you on piers and needles. Because you never know. He walked through the locker room. And ask you what's going on a AH playbook you can do whatever you want to do. But you don't know feel a make a mistake. You have to answer to him. You just described Jimmy. John it could really be the first go round with about that booth. Hey that's my a heated machine have a good old time delay but when it comes down to play you gotta be ready to play would come down to practice you better be ready to the practice audit. So what could Jason Garrett have done. That would ignite this team this week. He could make a dramatic team shocking. Strategic or lineup. Change that he is. He is not allowed to say for instance that he announced to the team on Wednesday ends day. That Jason Witten has been demoted and Blake. Jar will start and finish the football games at tight end. He will be our starting tied in. That's a shakeup man. That's like you're looking sideways. Like soon usually okay but would he be allowed to make that change with Jerry. Allow that to happen that that happens. We're we're playing Michael Dean Perry starting the winter the Promo Code couple years. He's been there my cutty okay. Three Games this season Mike cutting beautiful and guess. What shook you up? Hold on wait a minute Mike. Cutting people this late in the season. Knee up veterans. Okay I think right now I love Jason Witten for what he has done but not for what they should be starting should be starting okay but they give you more bang for your buck. You the offshore three yard five whatever whatever whatever wherever Jason is that's where he's GonNa catch it that's where he's going to be Okay Charleston ability to get you pass. I bet we'll Dak has called him. Maybe the best athletes on team will utilize it but unfortunately there is a legend at tight end and Jerry loves the edge. Jerry was the one new brought him back this year and the legends GONNA play. You welcomed him back with right after the situation. But we're super super excited to see this famous face. Finally right I think this is star of the Indiana Pacers. I think this is someone who had a rough feared Diane Sleep. Inc. is Victor Oladipo. You take we are now i. Himself Pacers out dripped me today. That's some heating the heating the slippery. A whiff look the real people welcomed undisputed and yes that looks very nice and what a great singer. It was really fun to watch you. Just tell us a little bit about the experience what it was like it was different. You know obviously you know the year have been kind of shaky and I just wanted to do something different and kind kind of do some fun and essentially what. It was for me so the injury exactly soon. So that costume thingamajig imaging It's a huge costume. How how how long did it take to get into that costume? Man Takes a good ten fifteen minutes in every day to get into the costume. They have people on site helping me get into it I think the hardest part was putting the mask on. It's a lot taller then me putting in on I couldn't really breathe can't really see it's really hot in there but after a while you get used to it and you become a mom did you. You became did you worry about your your injured quad while you're in that giant definitely. I try not to move a lot if you notice the other. Contestants Tesla did And if you also noticing the costume cut on my right Nah that could have been a little right for two off. So Bob Bob on notice so you injured and you said that we were talking off camera you said You Kinda knew you going for steel against the raptors. A you kind of knew as soon as you hit the floor you knew something was wrong and you kind of knew what it was. Yeah definitely I been having problems prior fire to a man you know. When I was going for the stone I felt like my kneecap touch the floor if I just fell off my body so I was telling Overnight and I said there are merely if you wash the Repub mealy take my knee pat and I take it over my knee and I see a big dent in between my my kneecap so right then I knew it was over so it is rare. This happen happen to Tony. Parker Charles Barkley ended pretty much their careers. So God bless Osu coming back in the middle of your career. Thank you but you do have another career. You could pursue albums out and you pretty much stole the mask ask singer show because you can flat out get it singing yes you can't little bit. So how much do you want that to be your second career or even maybe a first career in some ways I don't know skip honestly At first it was just a hobby writing some. My mom made me do you when I was growing up in church like and then after a while it was like sure your Gift Show Your Gift Shoe Gifting Yep ever since then it's like we want more music. We want more music so I don't know we'll see maybe after eh well. He doesn't need Karaoke. I mean he's just to get a real we do this. But this man is is a Bala dear because you can sing Allen's those are so he wanted to be all over he will go data be all and he I I believe so. What makes you happier singing or playing basketball basketball? My I love it okay. I've been playing since I was four. I was singing says I was like seven so basketball is my love music. Is I love music. Obviously I love singing and everything like that but none like wasn't somebody on that on the floor lost my heart last if you could do a duet with somewhat collab- who who would it be with Probably Jerry I would do drink just because the baby wears that right now. I mean a lot of great rapids right now. The Baby Roddy regionals future. Everybody who I was wanting to do to change chipped in on your. Yes you too. Can you wrap as well. And I'm not a RAPA RAPA. They'll let no one else. I'm I'm not a rapper. Not Everyone Dane. Got That Dame Dame's no this out there that can have I mean is. Is the the ballads the Luther. The Barry White's is that is that in bold now because even you know you the rap or you hit the pop. Yeah it's a little different. It's not as much. I guess you could say balancing might be out right now but there's still people who love it. That's it for me. So should the Lakers. Now be the prohibitive favorite to win this year's championship. Why good question? I mean everything's over there man. It's a long year. Anything is possible. Anything can happen so I think it's way too early to anyone. So the clippers clippers. Everybody talks about the cliff. They low man who everybody so they just lay there by talking about the clinical. They why you know he lo- managing PG HE LO- manager everybody load manager and getting their hair but but they're gonNA turn it all come playoff time again log year so I mean they. John was best for eighteen player so they think that's what's going to work for them but at the end of the year anything is possible to paces. It'd be healthy fully healthy. How would you say you will be out there? You gotta get that That six eleven guy up in Milwaukee. The Pacers will be healthy healthy though. Who Does that include Mr Ola depot in that health? We'll see we'll see. Yeah I mean I plan on coming back this year at some point. So we'll see if you had to put a percentage on it. What do you think you are seventy five eighty? I'm I'm not sure probably around there. Maybe a little more. We'll see but I think the biggest thing is just would this injury because it's so unique. You gotTA listen to your body right when you listen into your mind your mind. Your body's laying on. What did the doctors tell you? Perform the surgery. How long did they say was was normal normal for this type of injury EH I. It was like six months But you know everybody's different everybody's unique. I think when Tony did he kind of came back in like seventy way super. Yeah so for me. It was like I'm kind of like a case. Study US you know. I'm so young and it doesn't really happen to a lot of people right so for me. I'm just Kinda kind of take the easy way and just take it easy when the time is right down and by the way Tony Parker rush back for this guy named Kawhi Leonard who was quitting on my spurs at that point. I'm just out. You don't have to comment but that's exactly what happened and I think you very much. You haven't gotten over so speaking Gary I have no. I'll never get hotel. So speaking of Lakers clippers. which I know it's way early but from what you've seen so far? which team is better so far better right now? I mean the Lakers probably would be the better team. They're playing better right now. But you know I mean unloaded Oh a management kind of is is a different thing you know. So there's a boo Javid was asked moods so the clippers off the you know fully order every everything but you know we'll see. I'm looking to the Christmas Eve. Christmas Day matchup on the so speaking of another team the Houston Rockets. You're going to have some insight into that because you did play a whole year alongside one Russell Right. Yeah and you did pretty well needed really well. Because that was his first breakthrough year in which he averaged a triple double. How do you think it is working out? So far between him. And His Co. fringing part I think they're doing pretty well. I mean once you get those two together. They're they're both such like Alpha Alpha male right so it's going to take time for both of them to kind of figure out well WHO's turns it to be the Alpha dog written certain moments true though after a while it will click in they'll figure it out and Eventually they might be able to do some special. Who knows? It's always gonNA be James Hard. You Know Jay okay. Do averaging thirty nine double teams has come him. He's twenty three eight and seven. Talk About Lebron. You gotta be surprised fries. Here's got us into seventeenth season about to be thirty five at the end of the month. Are you surprised that. He's playing this way slimmer knowing that his age man and and and it seems like he's he's getting better not not slowing down the way. We want to be earning season. We're we're not Christmas. Not even he said he's looking forward to that match up. We are rooting for you. Though to get health and we can't wait to see you back on corporate really well done. It was season and thank you for joining us in just a reminder to all the fans at home check out the two hour season finale next Wednesday at eight. PM on Fox and season three will premiere after the Super Bowl on Fox Fox in February and apparently Shannon trying to get on the show. I mean you'll see. It's been about a month since Colin KAEPERNICK'S NFL workout in Atlanta and cap hasn't drawn any contract offers from the workout which his can't move from the Falcons facility to a nearby highschool just hours before its scheduled start time according to reports one of capper next biggest supporters Jay Z.. was very involved in setting up the original workout. Jay Z has been working can closely with the NFL on social justice initiatives since early August. We're now joined by professor and author Michael. Eric Dyson who has recently written in a book on Jay Z awesome. Thank you so much for joining us. Today it's really good to have you with US always. It's always a pleasure to have you. You're one of my favorites if not my favorite. So as Jay Z. And obviously we all know now that he has a role with the NFL. How much Karol did he have an prompting that quote unquote and finally ill-fated Workout Colin had in Atlanta key? Made all the difference. I mean we know for three three years. Colin Kaepernick has been out of work unjustly unfairly denied opportunity to exercise his craft imply his wears on a Gridiron for no other reason than he took took a need to protest racial oppression black suffering and the trauma that black people do or that's clear but it's also clear that the NFL had made no gestures toward reconciliation allegation that finding a way to do so Jay z's presence made all the difference in the world negotiating behind the scenes. This is what I tell people your protest outside you raised the concern. You tell people what's wrong when they say well. How do we change it? You gotta go inside and help negotiate that Jay z did just that I he was on the Asong saying till the NFL. We're in stadiums to we. Don't need you to appear there antiwar Kaepernick Jersey. Now people said is he selling out. No He's on he's undestanding. The transition transition between Starsky and Hutch Batman and Robin inside outside Steph Curry and Lebron on the inside so he then goes inside to negotiate to sap create space and opportunity for this unjustly agreed young man and give him that opportunity so he was deeply and profoundly of all without Jay Z.. I suspect respect. The opportunity would not exist. And furthermore how disappointed was Jay Z. From what you hear and how it did not turn out is definitely disappointed pointed disappointed because not because Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a righteous grievance. He does not because he didn't wasn't the victim of collusion. He was not because his calls was not just but because strategy is just as critical at some points as the substance of your argument. And I'm from from an older generation. Right I'm sixty one years old and I know that younger black people sometimes think well. It is unfair to have to do certain things like when the police stop us it it is it fair that young black men in particular and young black women have to behave in a different fashion than their counterparts. No it's not fair but it's real so Jay Z.. Understands ends as I do from an older generation strategically you got to figure out your way. You can't get a freedom. Scholarship from favorable school. Phero ain't in the business of making Freeman favorables in the the business of making slaves. So you understand that from the get-go and you have a different expectation. So you use your position to challenge the authorities in such a fashion Ashen. I think Colin Kaepernick is an amazingly iconic in heroic. Figure also perhaps could have used some strategy sessions. Where you figure out you don't have to show up in a shirt that says can't freedom? That's your freedom to do so but you can go on a ship that is held by a captain and you. Can you can liberate the ship. and Say I am the captain and throw the captain overboard. But you've liberated yourself into bondage of you don't know where you're going now. It is not that he doesn't know where he was going but to extend the analogy common cabinet might have said. Let me try a Disney shirt. Let me go in with. Hey Boys and girls I'm Americana and getting their like Samson since we both all of I read the Bible and then destroy the pillars from within. Yeah figure out a way to penetrate to the heart of the matter and then leverage the authority. You have and do what you have to do. So it doesn't have to be either or both and I just think the strategy might have been beefed up a bit in consultation with others you just echo would I would. I said we're skipping. I've been talking about this. This is transpired and then it seems like he was so combated. NFL you've been running NFL. You've been hiding at that point in time. Have you want to come off as a sympathetic figure. Not as a combatant figure of a militant figure and I agree with you the shirt right. Why you you look if I'm going for a job interview I can dress any way I won't too but the likelihood of me dressing certain type of way they look at? It is look is unfair. I mean Aaron Rodgers shows up. You're not entering Rogers at this point. You're not Tom Brady at this point so the reality is you're on the outside trying to get in. You've been unjustly put out stam. Yeah we noticed about it but at the same time you know what the deal is. Don't expect a certain kind of outcome that you know is already not forthcoming. You use everything everything to your advantage to give them no excuse. There is nothing you can say to me. I'm not going to antagonize them. It is after all job tryout right and at that level you've got to understand whether affair on that right. Those are the rules. And that's what I tell my son you show up under the conditions that are demanded by the people from whom you seek employment and then when you get in there you can change change the rules from within and you can alter the situation but in the meantime you've got to play the game before you got to deal with the defense gives you great okay. Was it possible that by that point Colin was so discouraged the battle over what the conditions would yes. We're going to have to sign that. He protested by wearing the t-shirt. Of course I can understand that but self sabotage at that level right. The thing is is that look. He's a young man twenty nine years old. Let me let me even be more frank. I was at AH event with Tyler. Perry out in Atlanta where he opened his studios fantastic and cabinet comes up to me. Says you know I need to straighten you out. I said fine. You know a lot of people around me. Oh my God. You're Mike Org. I said that ain't got no ego. I understand what this is. I said Sir but this is the thing Mr Cabinet. You have my number you use my number to get me to re tweet your polls but when I'm asking you for substance is an engagement in conversation ain't forthcoming now. I said people pay me a lot of money to talk. I'm doing it for free. 'cause I love you and love your calls so it has to be both in. It has to be some give and take and I think they're substantively again if he's willing and able to get other people big brains brighter minds a who are equally invested in his heroic achievements and want to extend it strategies critical. Martin Luther King Junior beaten nine hundred sixty one in Albany Georgia he went there. And that all wireless Sheriff Sheriff said you know two things first of all angle violent. I ain't going to do that. I'm not going I'm not going to be beaten over the head and secondly I'm going to separate you. I'M NOT GONNA put a bunch of black people in one jail. I've spread them across the counties. So you won't have these singing's at night in these camp meetings and people see you king learn from that in one thousand nine hundred eighty three Birmingham Alabama strategy strategy. Let me see if America is eating its dinner and it sees that black people are being washed against the wall and by CUSP. It's an incisors of police. Dogs are ripping into the flesh of women and children that will dramatically and theatrically communicate a message that I've been trying to preach for a long time and so in Birmingham. When that occurred the change was set in play and in nineteen sixty four? The Civil Rights Act came about sixty five voting rights act because of Selma and that as a the result of strategy. It doesn't mean that you're a sellout it means that you understand the enemy. You're dealing with the opponent that you're dealing with. Let me be even more honest I was riding. NFL get get into 'em heart because I believe in fairness and I've been riding with calling in from the beginning and I still do but then when I saw the contracts is not what necessarily was presented to be right column was very concerned about the NFL rightfully so manipulating the footage. So that it could show that he was like messing up so they said we're going to put your director right next to art. Then they offered to give him the raw footage at that level. You've just got to step up into the arena arena and represent and. I love him and I want to have that kind of conversation with him. Not with you won't air but it's it's difficult and let me say. Finally this jumping on Malcolm Jenkins Eric Reed whom I love and adore to even if he calls me a sell it I don't care I love those guys. But calling Malcolm Jenkins Acela because he decided to take eighty nine million Dallas the NFL game. Listen to what you're saying the NFL owners who we know as a bunch of rascals who we know as a bunch have been insensitive to the call all and predicament of black people right but they then made a shift and said we're GONNA give you eighty nine billion dollars to give toward black organizations and other other organizations that you point out that significant Malcolm Jenkins is equally heroic. Because he's dealing with what. Stand your ground laws. They're talking about charging young men and as a young ladies as adults who are children. They're working on the mechanics. So in other words Colin Kaepernick kneels to highlight situations that are unjust on. Just Malcolm Jenkins is taking the baton to change sports and then running further with it to show what we can do to call him a cell because he has a different way. You GotTa Malcolm Martin a game you gotta gotTa Starsky and Hutch the game. That's what you get. It's almost like if you don't agree with every step Kapernick take your sell out. US whom that's that's so rude okay. Can't can't Jasey Jay Z.. or sell out because Jay Z.. said we're beyond kneeling. Now you fill out right okay. Okay okay we were kneeling kneeling to get the attention right. Now that we have their attention. Okay now what's the next best. What he was saying you know people took that wrongly I think when they said Oh? We're because if you look at the tape of the same conference that he had the meaning that he says of course protests of course continue to do what you do but his point was kneeling is the first step when you when when you got kindling to start a fire is just the first step on the kindling. Kneeling is the Kenley. Now you gotta get to come on laws on you got to put the logs on the fire is Grace Jones. I'd say so. Was that the unfortunate end of Colin Kaepernick as we knew and loved him as a football player you know unfortunately and tragically exactly it may be and leaders often make sacrifices right. I don't want to you know exaggerate. The nature of the sacrifice but it is his career. You know people kept saying Dan. Why don't you just go do something else? Because that's what he loves to do right. I love to speak. I love to write. I love to think you guys love this. Wonderful woman. Love to engage in serious and critical analysis of of sports. That's what you love to do what you're born into and Colin fills at an. I understand that but unfortunately and tragically because of circumstances it may be that this a stage of his career is over but look Dick. Gregory was a great comedian. But at some level Gregory said I gotTa stop telling jokes because they have to get on the front line. Cullen capital has been forced. Perhaps coerced I into this position. But Martin King Junior said the battering rams of historical necessity have trusted me into that quoting the great theologian. Reinhold NIEBUHR so now. Colin Kaepernick is in a position. Unless be even more blunt the thing is that he was one in eleven one in ten is last eleven starts so he. He's still better than a lot of quarterbacks out there playing right now he could definitely play but we know that given his talent level is sh ordinary but in terms in his skills but in terms of the outcomes from his games great he was in the middle of the pack but now now as a heroic figure now is an icon. Yeah he he reigns supreme for a lot longer than you can play quarterback in the NFL. I know Tom Brady. Mister Magic agic is doing it at forty two in look. I don't agree with the politics. I don't agree with decide on what the implications of this Trumpian reality ideology that prevails but as a man on the feel real. Tom Brady is my man because forty two years old. I like old men who do great things and show young people that y'all ain't just where you and I partway right. Unfortunately his career indy when he took that Ne- not when he just failed comeback. Attempt that well you know what it might have ended then and it's tragic that it ended then and America needs to be able to account then and because he wanted to identify with. Look look at this. There are many football players on their cleats. Many of their causes breast cancer Hanser people who young people who are who who are in jail or young people who are in the hospital so we don't have the same empathy for young black people who are being murders thank God atfer Colin Kaepernick for taking a knee and standing up for that at the same time the NFL's inability to acknowledge that legitimate claim back. Then but then when they made eight the shift when they were willing to compromise what Jay Z get inside is compromise on both sides in Birmingham. Martin Luther King Junior didn't get everything he or the other leaders wanted. You got a Robert F Kennedy came in negotiating between the owners of the stores that are being protested and decided the civil rights so there is compromise on both sides and unfortunately I think at this level. It's it's pretty the Ravens clinched the AFC north last night behind both the legs and the arms of Lamar Jackson in a forty two. Twenty one blow at win over the jets. Lamar ran for eighty six yards. which was enough to break Michael Vick single-season season QB rushing record? Amar's thirty three passing touchdowns on the year not only the NFL but that also ties the ravens single season franchise reckitt hit record and Lamar seems to be a locked to an MVP this year. which would mark the second straight season that an African American? QB Won the award. After Patrick Mahomes took home the trophy feet last year. Michael Eric dyson still with us. Good to have you on the show you when you think about Lamar Jackson and the impact. He's had what as as he done to the quarterback position. This season feminists astonishing. When you think about Michael Vick's record which truly I think very few people thought was going to be broken correct and but better than vic in terms of the percentage of completions and what he's able to do in the air? So here's a man who's got a tremendous air game anti-graft the game and he could do as your favorite Lebron washed king. Niko not bad for running back right. That's the Hashtag in his mama had to step in and and make sure that the NFL or that teams that teams would understand. This is a quarterback why hamstring and because of his unique set of skills. So when I look at Lamar Jackson I think incredible guy after a home last year which we the no look pass and then him with this kind of ground game and different than Victoria because they were designed plans blaze to run. I mean that's even more extraordinary. So you're bringing the offensive defensive attention on you. And he's still successful. But I think about it more. Broadly about the the black quarterback here we are speaking about Colin Kaepernick in his just grievance with the NFL. But when you look at the fact that these black quarterbacks you know when when you think of Sean Wilson Rat and and who who three of quarterbacks that Tom Brady this year. Ramp up right right on on. Who has the home homes and Lamar and Lamar? So you know beating the goat like that is no no mean feat. So I think that when when I was coming up if you saw get Joe Gilliam if you saw a quarterback coming back James Hair James Hairs and then we saw Warren Moon have to go eight years and the CF l.. Go here ear. Doug Williams who is in DC. So now this kind of renaissance of black quarterbacks allowing people's talent to dictate who we see and we know they were vicious racial implications there. Well the black quarterback quarterback is not smart enough black people in that smart enough to run an offense and we see now. These guys are not only running it well so they are redefining the position and so there's a level of pride but acknowledgment of the barriers that have been overcome. What I love the most is there was a tired old stereotype? It came up with covering the game of pro football. Yeah the black quarterback he can run but he can't throw all of a sudden this young man man he's the best running back in football but more important he says deadly accurate thrower with us. Hi Football Iq as anybody throwing the football in the game today which is why he is running away with the MVP. Yeah was he one zero nine. What's his quarter? QB Rain It's crazy. Yeah so the point is he's shattering that mold or that stereotype in ways. I've never seen because what what I'm in awe of the most is. They are leading the league in red zone touchdowns because he gets in the red zone in. It's hard to get it in the end zone. And he's saying yeah. I think I'll go there. He's wide open. He keeps finding the most wide open receiver on every play and make great decisions. AASHEIM it. I've I've not seen he's up in that Brady breeze now on decision making. I'm glad you said that because a lot of people think oh it's just enormous physical scale this the dictates the verbal is the ability to play because of his limbs. No it's that brain that allows him that that football Iq to look to see the feel feel like magic. Johnson like Lebron looking at this scoping it out and then making a choice based upon what the options are having multiple options of. This is closed down in doing it. lightning-quick speed it's a remarkable and guess what skip he's throwing touchdown passes I guess they can't see the ball in the air because there's not to the Mayfield wouldn't have that problem with search dog and correct me if I'm wrong but what these guys are doing doing is that they're showing that if you have talent give me an opportunity. Don't put me into an antiquated system. Well this is the way the guy runs system right. This is the way you do it right system around L. me. That's exactly. That's what they did in Baltimore right as your former team. They they said we have a genius. I give her credit. We got a guy here. We have Einstein. Einstein is John Orthodox right. He's not gonNA study that way. You did right right so I said the reason I was able to be better than people he says because I was retarded. We don't use that word anymore in my growth and because that was older when I came to math I got deeper so so so understanding. Who is sign is build the theory around Einstein's genius? They're doing this around Lamar. This is this guy who gives us why why him yourself in by comparing him to others who had more limited skills than he does right. Why not open up the possibility by saying he can run he can throw he can make decisions at the end? The end zone the red zone. How difficult it is? You know this yet. To score a touchdown in the NFL against equally talented big men. who were trying to hurt you? That's that's an extraordinary thing because they enter re does not call played for Patrick Mahomes like he call for Alex Smith Gray and and the Shaun getting plays call for him like they call for Tom. Brady you use the guy skillset. What's the best way I can get the maximize his ability or what I'm doing doing now? I'm not worried about how Tom did. I'm not worried about how Alex Smith did it. How can I maximize his ability? Right now to get the most out of it and these guys are getting the most Lamar Mark Jackson is doing. He's fifth in the NFL rushing leading the NFL and passing touchdown and he's number one in Qbr in passer rating. I don't know who ever see a combination like that again. Your ex-wife is great. You President Wipers Better Michael. We always a pleasure. Thank you so much on. The New York giants have officially waived Jenkins Gins after the quarterback defended his use of an offensive insult toward a fan on twitter. Jenkins said it was a quote hood thing to use the term but Pat Shurmur said the aging in school refusal to acknowledge the inappropriate and offensive language was the determining factor. So Shannon your reaction to this. I mean this is so ridiculous Silas I mean look. Here's the thing you make a mistake. You say something that's inappropriate. I sincerely apologize. That was not my intent apologized for offending the people that will took offence to what I see. You don't say oh we say that in the Hood Dumdum. There's a reason why you left the Hulu if you if you thought was so good you stayed there because because you did everything you possibly could to get out of the hood as true as you become prominent when you lead these impoverished environments the thing that you do you must become a chameleon. Okay when you go back there if you want to intermingle with your guys like I do when I go back home. I act a certain way but when I'm in the public eye and what I'm going to public setting I have acne certain way. Why can't you just I apologize guys? I'm sorry what I say is inappropriate. I was wrong and I sincerely apologize for offending anyone opening. But then you don't apologize. You say what we say that the hood likeness. That's okay. It's not okay in anybody can tell you right now. Let's get ever talk to me if they said they were. I don't care how close you are those. That don't see that I'll stop. Don't do that yes I can. I wish he had been able to listen to Michael Eric dyson because he just preached on that same subject. It's not selling out to have to play by the rules of wherever you're working for Greg. Whatever entity if you're in the National Football League there are certain rules you have to follow? Oh and one of them is. You can't say things you used to say in the hood publicly right yes okay. Well they're not selling oh so he got his pride up yesterday and said Hi. I'M GONNA speak the way I speak real well. He's speaking real without a job right now because they just dismissed the way we talk to. Our boys is that I would never talk publicly because there are certain things you talk to your girl the certain way. Okay that's cool but you wouldn't say that publicly. Just apologize beak contrite. Sincere Sir Neil and move on. Don't about the way we talk in the hood and his okay skies we'll be warring either eastern. Thank you for listening to the undisputed podcast. I I'm Jenny. 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LeBron James, Clyde Drexler, Cam Newton, Baker Mayfield, Tom Brady

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

1:53:25 hr | 11 months ago

LeBron James, Clyde Drexler, Cam Newton, Baker Mayfield, Tom Brady

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Taylor and I having fascinating conversations. Before, the show even begins. It has been one of those weeks. I've no idea what it is like. It feels like today's Friday. Yesterday felt like it was Thursday. It's. I was invited. My wife gets upset last night at eight thirty, we jumped into bed to go to bed and she. She doesn't like that she's like it just feels like I've been up since six. And it's I want more day and I'm like. Are you tired? She goes yeah, and I'm like. Let's go to bed. It's okay I had a great night's sleep women. Women to decide when everybody goes. Oh, totally, you like to decide Oh. My incredible like my wife gets mad at me. If I'm like eight fifty m like I played tennis today I went for four mile walk. I'm going to bed. It's eight fifty and I'm like and I'm tired and if we're tired, it's time for everyone to go to bed. That is so true. I can't explain it. It's just the thing. What is it about you? Women having to dictate when everybody goes. To bed at the same time. This. This is true and I. Don't know why. Let me start with this I finally. Somebody said there's something about basketball until crack me up. Why can't basketball just love what they have? The documentary we love looking behind and we're always trying to find the new shiny toy. Why can't we just appreciate Lebron? Why can't we just say best player in the world last fifteen years put her arms around. Let's GO WATCH LEBRON PLAY! Finally Lebron got in his career three MVP's. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing media that covers the NBA. That's embarrassing. Oh, my bad four, he should have eleven. I mean literally he left Eastern Conference in the Eastern Conference was man overboard. They're doing re seeding right now. In the NBA considering reseeding the playoffs to eliminate east versus West. They're not doing that because. They're not doing that because a Westbrook. They're not doing that. They're doing that not because they're doing it. Because of Lebron James, finally, somebody yesterday came out because everybody thinks this is going to win. The MVP Nice Kid, great kid like him. It's not Lebron James Stay six foot eleven ease to fifty and Leonard tossed him all over the floor last year in the Eastern Conference playoffs finally. Damian Lillard said. Just. Consider everything MVP is Lebron. This isn't is Lebron. You know number one aim in the West. They've been consistent all year long. If HIM TO BE AT AG with the amount of miles that he has on his body, half often east talked about the pressure they put on him. Every little dignity does in a loveliest performance after like in my opinion, I think he's MVP, of course. He's the MVP for the last six or seven years. The, NBA media his tried to convince me his run as over I. It was Katie. Katie's not built like Lebron. Katie gets hurt a lot. Katie emotionally couldn't handle dream on green. Not, Lebron just a great player. He's a great score. He's probably a great kid. It's not Lebron James Physically. He's not Lebron James Mentally. Lebron handled the Kobe death deftly. He's handled. His ownership mess in Cleveland. He handled the pressure of being the NBA's villain. Occasionally. Some people I don't know why don't like what he says. They don't like what he said about China. That like what he said about. You know moving to Miami. Those are just words. His actions have been impeccable. Any grew up with all sorts of chaos. He hasn't had a misstep of physical mistep. ooh, he's said something about China. Really we're holding that against him like he has to have some geopolitical accurate. Our politicians can't get it right. We have two babies at our president at the time, and we don't like what he said about how he was taking his talents to Miami. That's funny. CLEVELAND HIS JERSEY begged. Please go back. You didn't really care about his words. You're insecure. Your Cleveland the minute. You can have him back you did, but you told me Katie was going to be oh. Then that's why. Collided. Play every third game colitis great, but he's not Lebron James. He's not verbal. He's not carrying the league. He's on the second best team in Los Angeles. And then there's Jaanus Janas him. Sixty minutes at a piece. Janas playoff record is seventeen and seventeen. That's in the east. Five hundred, the broadest, never lost a first round playoff series, Janas only one two playoff series. Does everybody understand. People. Do not get credit for the disasters. They avoid. I've said this about presidents for years and years a really good president regardless in my lifetime avoid disasters. So you never get credit because you don't. It's like. Don't start a fire. And then call yourself a hero for saving people. The great presidents don't start the fires, so they don't have to pull people out of buildings. The reality is Lebron has made bad ownership in Cleveland dysfunction in Los Angeles. Unbelievable pressure in Miami. He's just made it all work. He just makes it work all the time everywhere. And Janas doesn't control every game. He's in Lebron does. I mean if you watch a Laker game. Your eyes go to Ron I. Mean They? Just they just he's got the ball in his hand. The passing the distributing the shooting low threes the clock. He's coaching. Honest doesn't do that. Katie doesn't do that. There's lots of games. The warriors were in the Katie either didn't play played occasionally or didn't dominate. There were games that clay took over and Steph took over. Colli I, think he's terrific. But, he's left. The Raptors are still number one in the League in defense without Kawhi, they're still very good without Kawhi every team Lebron leaves disintegrates. He left the Eastern Conference. It disintegrated. Like Stop Giveth labron credit for the stuff he avoids. If Lebron's in the room if Lebron's on the team. It's going to be okay. He's like the really successful dad. And he's got all these children under him and summer talented in summer dysfunctional, but the successful dad comes in, and he just kinda cleans all the messes up. He just makes it work. He makes Miami Work Lebron D.. Wade frankly have similar games. They didn't even really work together. And then Bosh had changed his game for Lebron. I mean Chris Bosh was averaging twenty five and ten goes to Miami and they kind of moved him outside and made him shooter Lebron work. For finals titles and he and D. Wade. They're. Not Really Lebron's best driving, passing three point shooters Ed didn't really work. For finals titles, he made it work Cleveland. He goes back, tyree. Kyrie doesn't get along with anybody. They rolled who coaches GM's. They rolled through. The owner wasn't perfect, and they make it work. They win. Nobody wins in Cleveland Lebron works. They go to Los Angeles for a franchise that was dysfunctional for years I mean it was. It was a mess, couldn't they? Couldn't land free agents? They all have all these young kids Lebron goes in there, and after about a year boom boom anthony. Davis shows up there number one in the West. Just you gotTA give people credit. Too often in society. We Crown People Heroes. For Saving messes they created. Lebron just makes everything lubricates everything make makes it work. They got the second oldest roster with the Lakers. Nobody thinks they have the world's best management I mean. Think about since he's been there. You had magic as a president and magic left and magic held at impromptu press conference without telling people now an agent runs the franchise and the unspeakably tragic death of Kobe Bryant they've had multiple trades in the Lonzo Ball, situation and Anthony. Davis gets hurt Kyle Kuzma. This year is not happy and the Lakers are the. Number one seed in the best road record and Of course he's the MVP. It's not even close an NBA media. Just put your arms around him. Why don't you give him three straight? MVP's to make up for the eleven you've missed on. He's been the most essential most impressive most important basketball player in this league for ten plus years. In Got Forum VP's. If you put somebody that just didn't have the emotional stability. Of. Lebron into Cleveland initially invented the Miami and then into the Lakers. Does everybody understand as great as the Lakers brand was? Before. Lebron got there for about five years. It was a mess. It was it was a mess. Ownership executive level roster scouting. It was a mass now. Both talked about team in the League. For the record I don't think he'll win MVP I don't. It's not the way the NBA mediaworks. He's easily the MVP. But Yana seventeen seventeen great kid, great player, seventeen seventeen playoff record on the east will win it. and has nothing against Jaanus. Put your arms around the guy that's carried the League for decade. Coming up next. Somebody else complaining about the Michael Jordan documentary. And the reason, the NFL is king. I mean the NFL is laughing at the other leagues this morning. They are rolling their eyes and laughing at the other leagues. We'll talk about that next. Be sure to catch live. Editions of the Heard Weekdays at noon Eastern, not am Pacific on Fox sports radio affects one and the iheartradio APP. Tommy John Soft loungewear and underwear. Or could at home. We're going anywhere. Guaranteed look and feel great. Tommy John Dot Com code her Tommy John Dot Com code her twenty five percent off sitewide so. For years and years, people think I'm pro- Brown. Anti Michael Jordan that's literally what people thought I. Always said Lebron does more things well than anybody ever, Michael Jordan's pry the greatest player, but I don't think it's a a wild huge gap. I think Michael was cooler. There was more glamour his shoes. His apparel sells better. There's a coolness to Michael. There's a wilfulness. There's an aggression that Lebron sometimes isn't. Isn't quite you know Kinda? The killer that that Michael isn't a different generation I mean Braun is more. Let's get along Michael's more old school schoo- cigars, and you know Bourbons, and you know Lebron's more wine, and let's all get along two different generation. You know Warren. Buffett says every generation has got a better quality of life. Lebron's kids are going to grow up even more uniquely than his dad. And so we're all different generation changes GRANDPA. Did The DAD son brother? Do it all changes right, but I think Michael's the best player I've ever seen. Lebron the second I think Magic's the third. I don't count centres. Nothing against them, but you know kind of genetic lottery thing so, but it shows you the power of Michael because how many people are still set about documentary? Because Michael was honest now. Michael wasn't totally honest. He didn't want. Is a on the dream. Team and that's why wasn't on it and we still don't know but the pizza thing and that sickness thing there's a lot of questions about it. But the reality was when it comes to individual players. He was totally honest, and it drives him nuts because basketball culture in America is fine talent coddle talent, worship, talent, pay talent. They don't hear a lot of criticism. They control the GM. They control the fans they control. The coach doesn't work that way in the NFL, it doesn't work that way in hockey and work. That way in the MLS doesn't work that way in college. High School sports works that way in the NBA. They get used to the coddling the worshiping. Every you make more money on shoes than you actually do the millions of make on your contract, and so when somebody points out your flaws, they're not used to it. NBA. Guys are not used to get criticized. It's a love, fest or entire career so Clyde. Drexler comes out yesterday. And he doesn't like the way he's portrayed. In the Michael Jordan documentary. Here's Clyde. That's Michael's documentary. Of course. Obviously, it's going to be from his perspective and a lot of times. Guys didn't like each other from other teams. But as you get older, you gotta you gotTa get beyond all of that and show some love and some respect for the people you play with and against you. This is a team game. It's not it's not one guy I mean you. You could have fifty points in forty rebounds, but if you lose, are you a less of a player that anybody on the other team? Now so it's a team game so I hate when people act like it's an individual competition I didn't take thirty five shots and get twenty three thousand eight, so you're not going forty some points tonight. Clyde also didn't play defense. You know much. So now four people who are upset with the documentary pepin Isaiah Horace Grant and Clyde Drexler. They deserve their reputations. Isaiah Thomas talented not well liked can be a phony. That's been the knocking forever. That's earned Scottie, pippen, talented but immature. Let's see the gun charge wouldn't get. Surgery wouldn't go into a game the DUI. That's deserve Clyde Drexler mega talented, but not nearly as committed as Michael Jordan. He wants a job at the University of Houston he would show up at tip off two years disaster. He just didn't play much defense. He didn't commit to practice. That was always the knock on. Clyde halley never developed a left hand in his entire career head down right hand drive to the basket, great talent and I'm told a great guy. And then there's horace grant a one time. All Star who always felt he was much better than he was. He was a very nice player. He wasn't a star. He wasn't great. He was really really good one all-star appearance. None of these are unjustified. That's how they were portrayed. Michael didn't Bang on Clyde Drexler. He said he was definitely worthy, but when I was compared to him, I took that personally you should. Michael was way better more committed more willful better, defensive player, more clutch player more all in. None of the basketball players don't take heat well. I mean God Kevin Durant left Golden State great owner, Graham, great coach, great roster, great teammate! Because draymond green gotten his kitchen for five seconds. Left they're not used to it? Michael's old school. He's honest about it. He's not always honest I'm not saying he's the pope. He's not the beacon of honesty all time, but if you said if you took modern players today. Let's take four modern players? Let's Take K. D. in twenty years from now. You said he was talented a little bit of a flake. That'd be fair. Westbrook oh. My God great talent. Not a winning basketball player Fair James Harden Oh my God time. Great Score, not sure he's a great teammate. Kyrie, Irving I'm not sure I've ever seen a better finisher under six. Five in my life didn't get along with a lot of people difficult to play with. Those would be justified. I said great for all of them. First Clyde was great. Pippen was great. Horace Grant was good is Ao was great, but there's a but after each of them. All of it justified none of it unfair. I watched this documentary with a completely open mind I. Remember so much of it. Basically it just re introduced me to stuff I. Already knew I mean there were some footage I hadn't seen. There was a funny story about the. You know the Chicago. Bulls team full of cocaine Michael Walk into the room, but there's not a single thing, said here that I thought misrepresented the truth even Isaiah Thomas. Barclay didn't like him. Chuck Daly, zone. Coach didn't support him. They didn't want him on the Dream Team. Michael was the better player. Barkley was a better player the time. If two great guys don't WanNa less great guy on the team, and you're going for three weeks to travel together together. Sleep together dined together. They don't want you. You're not going. So what? Joy with the news. You heard on the news. This is the headline line news. Baker. Mayfield hasn't been speaking with the media this off season after a disappointing second year with the browns. And he said he's going to continue to stay quiet and let his playing. Do the talking is here instead? A different approach to this year we know I think. Everybody has been interviewed. Anarchy kind of hit the nail on the head over and over about you know it's just time to work. Signed your things that are talking about it. I media thing I've done. Just. There's no need to be talking about. It's time to do it. Right now it's kind of moving in silence, which is fine with me. That's how I. Used to do it before getting on a bigger stage, so I'm happy back to those roots. Like I said earlier back to the fundamentals where I can encompass the bills season. Go W. leave it when I see it, but I like that you're saying the right stuff. Let's do the right stuff. He's saying all the right stuff in the off season. Let's just go do the right stuff I mean I would love this mentality from the browns. I always feel like the browns have have this and maybe it's not the actual Brown organization and more Browns Fans I. Don't know, but it's like this projection of what I'm supposed to believe. The browns are after years and years and years of the Browns, not being that and no dramatic changes, and then when there are dramatic changes. Unexplainable Freddie Kitchens and then a specter, Freddie kitchens, but like. He wasn't ready to be giving me Freddie Kitchens and can and trying to convince me that this is going to work, and then when I'm doubtful about time crazy like they have no identity. Last year, it was all talk. I love this from Baker. Not only is the opposite of what we've seen from Baker publicly. which is what he's talking about this. This is what I used to do. Of course, that's what you do all the work all the success that we see on the field. Field is a product of the work that you do. We don't see it. That's why the whole idea of like the these workout videos, which I- I understand if you're trying to put out a certain public image Chinese to change the narrative I fully understand so the end of the day. That's what you're supposed to be doing I mean we joke about all the time. Go. Wow, this girl posted her lunch for the fifteen number like we know you eat lunch. You eat every day. We. Know these guys work out? That's what they do every day, but just doing it in silence after year, whereas nothing and nothing, but what Baker is basically saying. I've got to grow up. Baker is acknowledging. My number, one criticism of you're you're talented enough. You're smart. Enough your arms good enough. All ever so with Baker is throw up. Two billion dollar franchise grow up, and Baker now is acknowledging from his porch. I need to grow up. I've never said he couldn't play. I never said he couldn't throw I. Never said he was a bad human I said he was had needed to grow up Johnny Manziel with talent. Now. He's acknowledging. Play. which is exactly what you do until you win? Super Bowls then I'm going to give you a little cocky I'm gonNA give you a little Aaron. Rodgers has a right to be a little cocky because he is great, he's got a super bowl Dan Marino or elway. Once you get into the record book. Back off on me, saying you have to be humble every second day Tom Brady's earned the right to be cocky. Occasionally, he's not, but he's earned the right to well right, so that's that's the other thing that I think fake might be realizing. Is that there? There's a games be played with the media and the public as well like it is fun. I love that he's Brash and has this. This unique personality and he's kind of over the top and you know has a little cockiness to his play I like that, but there's consequences to that too late I don't care if you do that doesn't bother me doesn't offend me, but I can't speak for the masses just how I feel, I like personality I like having things talk about so I liked them. Those things happen but yeah. Yeah if you're going to do that, there's going to be a certain level of expectation, because because that's how you're acting I like he's taking this mentality this year, so despite not being able to physically be with any of his new teammates or coaches Philip rivers is already showing his better leadership on the colts. T Y Hilton said that rivers has taken control of their virtual meetings and is. Is asking a lot of questions and he feels like he's already gotten to know his new quarterback head coach Frank Reich also said that rivers has had an impact on the quarterback room by sharing some good insight and opinions on the offense. Now rivers is familiar with the colts offense. Because he worked with frank, Reich and the offense coordinator Nick Serianni with the chargers, so he does have some. Familiarity with their. System, but. This is what I would expect from Philip. Rivers I I. I wouldn't expect him and Philip. Rivers has a very. Outgoing personality. and. It's also a very young roster, so I honestly think they're probably. They're welcoming it like it's a young roster, and he's an old dude, and he's verbal like he should walk in and take things. I think that's why. That's why they brought him in. They wanted this to happen. Say IT'S GONNA be weird to see him in another crazy. Tom, Brady another uniform, but I think we're all kind of like massaging our way into it with this new, but. Tom Showing Watch bowl I'M GONNA Watch for sure I'm so interested to see how he does this year. Especially since I retire, but it's just going to be. It's going to be I really. It's going to be more jarring to see. I think the rivers and a new uniform Tom Brady because we just saw this coming for awhile finally, the Lakers were on before the NBA shutdown out. Rousseau is very hopeful that they will be able to finish the season because team has been all in on winning the title this year. The team that we have with La's star-studded. People expect us to be there. And then there's a lot of. There's just a lot of attention to it already at that. We don't even have to talk about like. We know that's our only purpose like if we don't win it, it's the season's not not what we. Failure? That's our goal is when the championship I just I just WanNa see just. Let's start it back up. Start with the play offs NBA. Let's just get it going. God Good Lord. This is this. Is Lebron last chance the last dance? This is the last chance this is an old roster. There's no free agent help. The draft doesn't give you anything. The caps coming down. This is Lebron's year, and by the way it works out perfectly. He gets two months for a little older body. He and Anthony Davis WHO's had injuries to get healthy. I think this is work for the Lakers off though win it, but it is. I don't I. Don't disagree with with Caruso here. It's I mean I always feel like because I believe in winning championships to some degree. If you don't win a championship, your season is a failure. It doesn't mean it was a bad season, but the goal every year for every team should be to win a championship. That's what you play for. Obviously you WANNA. Take steps, and if you're. You're a young. Are you GonNa? Build for the Lakers are in the championship business like he's absolutely right, and this is. This is a situation for the Lakers. You mentioned because they're. They are older a lot of factors every single year. The window can change so I'm with you. See the season season. Get started right joy with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. Heard. Lie My favorite young NBA guys. Is Mark Medina? The for the USA Today Former Warrior Guy Former. Laker guy knows his stuff joining us now brought to you by Mercedes Benz, the best or nothing be our global satellite network. All right. Let me just you talked to NBA players. You know having covered the Lakers mark and having covered the warriors. You got the one through sixteen idea. You got the World Cup format idea. If you ask the star players, the guys you talked and said just. How do you want this thing to start? What would the answer be? Colin I. It's good to see uncover. You're hanging in there, but it's hard to sack. Thank my conversations with Chris fall a few weeks ago. WHO Players Union? The main priority is safety just being able to have season. Start up again because the financial implications, the competitive locations as far as what guys prefer to have as far as the format. That's why the NBA is GonNa be having meetings today with the least GM's and having the governor's tomorrow. Because I think that when you're looking at this, what one person told me as the best of bad options like there are pros in cons with all of these scenarios an I might be in the minority. Here I know there's a lot of excitement about jumping into the play offs. Having a World Cup format I think the best scenario is resuming works season because these games were really bad. Guy Triggered to rosty out of shape and I think that at least biased them time to be able to get into rhythm and reduce the likelihood of injuries, but The other cone is the NBA is also weighing. No, is it a good idea to bring all thirty teams to Orlando? So hopefully after Friday there might be some more clarity. It's interesting because I think the NBA I mean this is, they're not built for a pandemic and extending because now I hear they're gonNA, start potentially in August and I think to myself. They're going to go up against the NFL. They were already struggling with ratings. And then what do they do next season? They does it end in November and they started Christmas. Wouldn't it be better though like there's a board of governors meeting? Tomorrow actually. What is that about tomorrow I mean is. Are we getting close to a finalizing a deal? What are they going to do tomorrow? That's what I've been told about tomorrow. Is this is where they're going to elicit everyone's opinion about what the formality in Albany teams on the Games should be just allow, should the result sort of plans tournament There's going to be I. Don't think there's going to be any announcement from the NBA after that. Oh, this is what we're doing. I think that they're going to put all their notes together in the huddle all, but at the same time I don't think that they're gonNA drag this out. You know any any much longer. Because the hope is for them to start resuming season sometime late July. Because your point, it goes up against the calendar with out of those and they're. They're willing to deal with some of that inconvenience. Because anything's better than nothing in a way, there was always a lotta top this past season about pushing back the beginning of a season. Anyway, because of things you said. But they don't. WanNa keep. Getting into the summer more more dragging it out so. Even if idol sense that the NBA's announcing anything definitive on Friday out, expect within the next week or two that they'll start detailing plans of when practices resume in that when the season's GonNa Start. so Damian. Lillard came out yesterday and I and I said this the NBA has a history. The media of they're looking for the next great thing I. Katie was better than the Lebron Hawaiian. Janas and I'm like folks. Lebron left the Eastern Conference in. It evaporated like there's a reason they're thinking about re seeding. It's Lebron. It's not because left the raptors. I would vote him. MVP would've voted him MVP. I one time I, sat down. It was like eleven times. He's got four Janas has some better staff. If you had to vote today, who would you vote for and why? Vote the same way. Initially West, leaning toward on us because lucky had a better regular season number spot. Lebron's numbers were still pretty good. He led the League insists an you know. There's a lot of extra things that I think lebrons should get credit for inherited a new coaching staff. There was a lot of role players that Gillette just joined the Lakers that may have looked good on paper, but there's always an element of unknown of. How much world players can provide an I think for the most part. Guys have been the best versions of themselves. He's totally elevated. Anthony Davis look the Kobe Bryant tragedy as hit everyone around the MBA, but there's no question at obviously impacted. The Lakers lowest because of what fully messed the organization and Lebron, no plano early integral part in being able to galvanize the team together this tough times acting as a result of that he should be given credit for not only what he's done on corporate all those intangibles, I, our aunt Mark Medina NBA writer USA Today. Our friend were all dealing with this virus and doing. Doing stuff wherever we can do stuff, so it's apartments, condos houses rooms anywhere. We appreciate him stopping by so Clyde Drexler is the latest person to be mad at Michael Jordan for the documentary now you're younger than I am so I'd like your perspective as somebody who's much younger than me on the documentary how it landed for you and all the post documentary squabbles you've heard. been amused by now Michael Jordan a ninety s basketball. That's right. We're up. That's introduce me to the NBA so when I was watching the documentary. It's not like I. learned anything new. I rent a Lotta books. I watched games. That Michael played over the years I knew all these story lines, but I would i. Was Pretty amusing. Is that so many decades atrifacts how strong Michael still held some of these grievances about certain players and served story lines, and it just became a almost a running joke where when you would hear you know Michael Taliban. A fence to what some coach Jeter, what some player did. The reality is no one had to do anything to get hundred Michael's skin You know I was particularly abused with George Karl Anecdote works. If did not acknowledge him at a restaurant I'm pretty convinced that if he did acknowledge him at the restaurant Michael of fans of source source of motivation there, but it's it pretty fond of see how that's still six. Oh! Yeah no he's petty. But there there's there's a duality everything. There's value in pettiness, and then there's grudges are bad for you, but I mean. Lebron doesn't feel like that or maybe Lebron, just better at not airing his pettiness, you know. And, that's the thing you know what I don't think. This is necessarily a bad thing. These guys are competitors is a Ryan to be able to sustain that level of competition every single Bambi. Guy Saw obviously that last season bulls, and so anytime you can find a little sources of motivation to raise the ante up even more I'm all for, and you know when I was watching the documentaries inevitable. You're thinking about you know. What does this mean for prime and look I think it's indisputable Michael's obviously better score and his. Intensity, was on a whole other level, but at the same time. As you're watching this journey, it was clear that broad figured it out a lot sooner than MJ. Did you know how to get the Best Outta teammates? How do you make them feel empowered so I think when we're talking about all these. Harrison's I think Lebron should be given credit that. That, you know, there are some things that he figured out sooner than Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan. Figure things out sooner than Lebron James. Because the reality of the make up is different in their other style, plus over good stuff, Mark Medina great talking to you again one of these days. We're going to get you back in our studio. Buddy, good senior. Hanging there all right, good stuff. Yeah, no! That's a good way to put it. There are some things the advantage for like a a Kobe Bryant watching. Jay is you can. You can see the mistakes and avoid them right. Like I, I talk about this all the time with my friends who are into business. You're you're the idea you're inventing anything you're just what you have is a derivative, and then you have your own little edge to it, and you're watching companies and going. Oh, I love what they do. I'm going to do some of that, but then I'm not going to do that because everybody makes mistakes right so in my whole media career I look at the people that I admire and great, and I take three percent from that and eight percent from that and I have my own style. Who I'm going to avoid that. That's no good in. You know to a large degree. Labron has taken the great things of Michael but I'll. I'll tell you one thing Lebron did very quick in his career. Lebron figured out really early before a lot of analytic mavens did the three point shot matters Lebron in in his last couple of years in Cleveland, started shooting the three allot. In fact, he stopped working on his down low game in Cleveland and Miami where it heard against Dallas, and then he had to spend an off season with a key Malaysia and figuring out the low post game, Lebron was way ahead of the curve on that. He saw the NBA moving to the three. This was the first time in Cleveland and he started becoming despite his frame and his body. He said to himself I can save wear and tear on my life. What adds another dimension? See your game. And also is new nothing. Matthey said yesterday the one of the biggest things he learned from Andy. Reid was steal stuff. What's your own personality on it of course, but it's okay to take bits and pieces from things was learning. Coming up next the NFL keeps telling us what they want. From their quarterback and CAM's not what they want and I'll explain why I don't understand the misgivings, and the misunderstandings of Cam Newton white cake. Job Can't get an interview. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live. Additions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific. Get your free credit scorecard. scorecard today, even if you're not a discover customer, learn more discover dot com slash credit score car. Limitations apply include your FICO credit. Score Picture score credit, but I won't hurt your credit. Good David Shaw Stanford coach Oh by the way one of my favorite stories ever I don't have time for this segment. I'M GONNA. Do it top of the hour. People in Boston. Do not like the new Tom Brady. They don't like what they're seeing. He swearing Tom's walked into the wrong how he got arrested or told to get out of a park. The People in Boston do not like the new Tom, Brady so I've got. This is very funny, so I'm. GonNa get to it, but I WANNA do this first. An anonymous general manager said this week anonymous because I. Guess You can't Criticize Cam Newton publicly. Get blowback I I. Don't know why you couldn't just say. The the quarterback said the GM said. The decline is evident. And there's a lot of confusion on why the market there is none for Camp I predicted. It would be very very small because the NFL's been telling me for years. What they want from quarterbacks, so I try to listen. Employers all the time will tell you. This is what we want like sportscasters. You can talk politics, but your bosses don't like it. And next contract it'll work against you. Go for it. You have a right to talk about it. It's not gonNA. Hurt you not going to help you. It will not help you and your next contract negotiation. I can assure you that I could give you nine examples, no reason to name names. The NFL is telling you with one move what they want with quarterbacks. It's Carolina. They took Teddy Bridgewater. OVER CAM teddy smaller. Teddy had a worse injury. Teddy a huge arm. Teddy's not the athlete. So instead of trying to figure out this complicated reason why A. Just, Carolina. Carolina's former coach Ron Rivera. Traded to get cams backup. And Carolina's new coach chose Teddy Bridgewater. Who two years ago we would have seen his Cam Newton's backup. Why? Because the NFL's telling you what they want with quarterbacks. Cams distracted. They're not into that cams a celebrity. They're not into that. Cams coach Bill, but there's drum I've been told for years. They're not into that. It's not the injury Teddy Bridgewater got a worse career injury. CANS got a bigger arm. A better body one. A lot of games won an MVP. Just look at Carolina. The former coach will take his backup. The current coach I'll take a guy that we think is backup. Nick. Right was on the show earlier this week and I think his opinion is shared by many in the NFL confusion over Cam. It's an unfortunate time as far as given the pandemic, he can't go into work out with teams and they can see that he's healthy. I think another is you've got? I don't know what the number is. But maybe a quarter to a third of teams in the League that just aren't Cam Newton friendly, so to speak for some reason or another, there are certain. Certain guys who just say well they get to be backup quarterbacks and nobody'll bat nigh so I. Don't get it. I don't think it's just football with Cam I. Don't think it's ever been just football with Cam I still think he's a top at the very least top eighteen starter in the NFL Collins. So That's interesting. He said it's not just football with CAM. That's exactly it. GM's want just football with their quarterbacks. They don't want celebrity. They don't want drama. They don't want fashion. They frankly don't want politics, but if you're great, they'll they'll deal with. In think how good Aaron Rodgers is, there's a there's a story today that suggests the packers are gonNA start integrating Jordan love into the offense. Like. They're telling you what they want in the NFL. They want Teddy Bridgewater. They prefer Teddy Bridgewater with more talent. Kirk cousins got resigned Marcus Mariota. Still gets jobs. Nick foles! Still gets jobs Jamie Scott job. James isn't distracted. He just throws to many picks Jameson isn't a celebrity just does too many picks. Employers. Tell you this is what we like. Do what they like or start, your own company. COMING UP NEXT BOSTON BOSTON VER- chowder. They're very uncomfortable. The new Tom next one more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP, search her to listen live or on demand whenever you like. Oh here. We go with our to join. I decided. It's a Thursday. That's the day we think it is today. We're not sure live in Los, Angeles. It's the hurt wherever you may be. However you may be listening. iheartradio Fox sports radio. nfs, one. David, Sean a couple of minutes, Stanford football coach. We're GonNa Talk About College football where it's going with one, the really smart guys the. Three time PAC, twelve champion, four time PAC twelve coach of the year joining us so joy, you and I have lived in a bunch of license, yes? And I live in New England. For ten years about an hour drive from Boston about an hour forty five from New York I preferred New York. For a lot of reasons, but I preferred New York nothing against nothing against Boston. But this story reminds me of Boston a radio host at W. E. I. Lou Murloney. I think he's a baseball guy. Mostly he says I. Don't like the new Tom Brady. That this is not working for me. He's putting himself out there. I don't like it and this is. This is not working. I watched the match here it is. I'm not so sure I like the new Tom Brady I'm starting to worry about it. You know defended him the whole TB twelve supplements and video came on Thursday Friday and was like Jesus like just enough. He doesn't have the personality of Peyton. You know what I mean. There's a personality Phil Mickelson joke around whatever I'm not so sure. Put himself out. There is really a good thing you can match. What's Nice Guy, but he's not like you know witty. I I don't know like I. Just think he should just concentrate on playing football. Let's judge on his football. Because I'm not so sure it's GonNa. Be a good thing. Tom's aspirational. You know when Mark Wahlberg and Bill Simmons and Dana White and Ben Affleck and Matt. Damon got rich when they left Boston. because. There's a better world out there Boston's fine, but the old saying is fences make good neighbors in new, England in other words. We do it our way. There's our way we care about us. It's about we're not we're not. We don't WANNA learn new. We don't want to do about the way we do it in Boston. That's fine. It's great city. Intellectual hub great sports. CITY, politically savvy! But it's a suffocating city if you're into aspirational bigger things than having a condo up in Portland Maine to retire in hanging out in a state with more Care Abboud and people. I like Boston. I thought it was fun. But it is. It their DNA is they're not growing. Friend of mine met him owned a gym. He started a gym in New York and he was worried because New York's got some of the world's best gyms very competitive, but he created a Jim. It was great and it succeeded very quick. Within two months, he was making money. And he thought well. This is this is this is easy. I'm GONNA I'm. GonNa move on open it up in Central Connecticut, which is all Estonians? Struggled for years. Why because New Yorkers don't care where you're from? If? You're good. They, like you. If you're great love Ya. They're always looking to grow New York's aspirational city. Come on in, can you? Can you elevate the city? Politically sports come on in. Boston's not. Boston people even though the gym was significantly nicer than the surrounding gyms in the area I was there was a mile better. They. Don't want new stuff. We do what we do. We live what we live. We don't need new friends. Fences make good neighbors Tom, Brady's aspirational. Tom, Brady wants something bigger. Than just what he did. He wants a brand. He marries a supermodel he wants to I. Mean Tom is just grow. Grow grow, do new stuff. Keep young that ain't Boston. That's not that's New, York. That's La there's a lot of cities like that, so it doesn't surprise me that there are people in Boston. That would be allied the new guy. You don't like new stuff. Like. That's not what Boston is. It's heavy heavy into tradition and its tradition sports is amazing, and it's tradition in politics amazing and it's academic. Depth is fantastic, but it's a lot of rear view. Mirror and Tom is a windshield guy. All right speaking windshield guys he's. Okay. David Sean one minute. If you've been to Boston at all. I have not been to Boston now. Yeah it when you go to Boston. You can sense it. You can feel it. They don't really need you. It's confusing to drive the sinuses greats like if you can't figure it out. That's your problem new. York is complicated. It is then take you long to figure it out. You Walk to any New Yorker and say I'm lost now. They'll talk fast. They're in a hurry. We'll give you directions. They want you to be in the city over their best bar in town. Best Pizza over there difference just a different mindset, different DNA brady's big thinker. Brady's aspirational. He wanted new stuff. He was tired of the old way of doing stuff. Yeah. Boston's not comfortable with that well I mean necessarily know this is a new tom either. Tom? That you always wanted always was he just wasn't able to do that in. The Patriots Organization the system right. David Shaw Tenth Year at Stanford, four time coach of the. Year Three PAC twelve championships. He is joining us via the phone right now. Okay, let me start with this. So the PAC twelve says okay June fifteenth. We're ready to go. I could make an argument David. They feel some pressure recruiting. If everybody else is going and the PAC twelve didn't that could potentially not be great in a competitive environment? Do you feel that June? Fifteenth is safe. Are you down with? Are you okay with that date? First of all good to talk to you, Colin, the there have been. I can't count the number of conversations that we've had over the last two month. And outs, despite what outside opinions may formulate? Really this is kind of been a coordinated thing where a lot of us have talked throughout the year, multiple commissioners and coaches and administrators etcetera. I believe the big twelve has settled upon the same mid, June date some teams that are some conferences that June I is okay. but I think the bottom line is what are the majority of your teams think majority of her school so in our conference. We have multiple. states that are more open than California and we didn't want to. As a conference, constrict them from being able begin earlier than maybe others, so although there may be some that aren't ready. June fifteenth There may be quite a few. That are to start their process. Does it bother you I had a friend the other day and I was talking to the West Coast losing many of its top recruits to Clemson. And other schools now Stanford's different. You guys have always recruited nationally because of your academic standing, so you're kind of in a different boat. When when you look at the conference as a whole I said two months a month ago on the air, I said I'm only going to make one sports prediction. The SEC's going to play. They're going to be hyper aggressive. They're going to be like the UFC. They're going to be like NASCAR are they're going to be hyper aggressive. Do you worry that if the PAC twelve? If there's a second way, they pulled back that the conference is slipping nationally because it's not seen as football conference that is as committed to football is other places. Boy, that's a big question. You and I can probably do an hour on that question alone. so I'll say this There's always been a perception. real or imagined about how we feel about football on the west coast. You know how many hours we put into this thing as coaches are administration, how much dedication we put towards it So some of that is a perception. I. Wholeheartedly like you understand that there are constant ebbs and flows that happen in college sports, especially the major college sports. It wasn't too long ago where we talked about the middle of the SEC wasn't very good at all. And the big ten only has one school The big twelve has no great teams. All those things change those things. Go Up and down so as difficult as the last few years have been in our conference the middle of the decade was was pretty great, and I do believe we've recruited our conference very well. I think he's got a lot of really good players in our conference coming back, so I, don't believe we're that far away from getting back to where we were but we're gonNA need to in order to change that perception. David Shaw's joining us when you look at football as a sport basketball with the virus I look at it and I think share a ball. wear helmets there on top of each other in football. You've got you can wear gloves. There is some contact obviously at the line of scrimmage, but as a sport can you as a coach? Make practice as we deal with this virus pre vaccine? David. Can you make it? A, not not just safer, but can you have distancing? Does it to change the way a practice perhaps? Well for me first and foremost to answer that question. Hopefully I think we've gotten a lot better and testing. We're not where we WANNA. Be some time soon hopefully. We feel a lot better about the testing because if you feel great about the testing. And you can test periodically. At least you have a good feeling that the people that you're working with that day are not positive for the virus. So! It's hard to practice football without playing football. so that's that's going to be some. Give and take I think. I said this the other day to a group of people that. There's a good chance. Multiple people are going to test positive on football teams in basketball, teams and soccer teams throughout the year. the idea is to make it safe as possible and realizing that we can't just stop something that we can't be. so being smartest, possibly in the safest possible and as being as proactive as possible when you do have a positive test. To isolate quarantine and minimize the the effect of that positive test. You know it's interesting you. College sports are going through a very interesting situation. College basketball on the edge is maybe not even the edges. The G. Leagues Eating away at it. There is still a feeling in college football that the that that two or three years in college football absolutely benefits the NFL I always feel like the NFL likes college football and appreciates college football and I've said that multiple times on the show is I don't feel the NBA. There's not a symmetry with college basketball. It's almost as if both resent each other. You could have gone to the NFL. NFL Multiple Times, you've stayed at Stanford. Give my audience some sense because I've talked about this a lot. That college football in the NFL and I think this is why football is king in America there does appear to be some harmony there, rooting for you and you're rooting for them to take your product and make it even better. What's your relationship now with NFL? SCOUTS NFL GM's when they call. First of all as usual I I, think you're one hundred percent right? There are a lot of cynical people out there that I don't really understand one principal fact. The NFL does not want young players. He does the NFL does not want players to come to the NFL before they're ready. These are billion dollar or So the people that say college football's restrictive CETERA. The NFL's using college football I. Don't know that that's the case. The NFL is a standalone deal and yes, they count on College to to make their their to prepare the players for that leak, but not all of them can make it so my take on it honestly is that for most of us in college football and I to say all of us most of us. We think about college football. We don't just think about the NFL. because not all of our guys are gonNA. Make it to the ten percent that have a chance in the five percents that get a job and the two percents that actually can make living So for me, there is a friendship. There is a relationship They count on US sometimes to say hey, you know what guys these guys are ready. Maybe these guys are quite ready but they have scouts. They have their whole process so I don't look at college football as the quote Unquote Minor Leagues. I look at college football for what it is, which is an opportunity for young people to play football at a high level talk while getting a college degree. How good a shape can your players being i? Mean I obviously if you start June fifteenth, you'll be fine, but what have you done over the last couple of months? What can they do I? Mean obviously not hit, but what CAN STANFORD? You Can David Shaw Do. Are they working out? Absolutely It's not to the degree of. Those were stating me dating myself right now. where it's rocky four where he's working out in a Barn Getting Ready for Toronto not that drastic, but some of these guys have not had access to weight rooms, but we've been able to send them some workouts. These guys have gotten in pretty good shape. The running some are easing weights. Some have to use the things that we can send them. Medicine balls, et Cetera but there's a lot of ways you can do to condition your body, but. But I will say this at some point WE'RE GONNA to get back early. Enough to truly train for this explosive exciting violent sport that need we need access to these guys to just that last ten percent ready to play the game. Great talking to you coach. Hope things going well for your family I. Love Having you on the show. Thank you for your call and take your. Oh a smart thoughtful. Guy David Shaw four-time coach of the year. Three PAC twelve championships reverse those as one of them. I wasn't too hard on Boston by the way was I. It's nothing it's a great city, but it is. I would say paralyzed by its tradition. I. I've never been to Boston. So I'm not going to be critical of a place I've never been from what I've heard. It's a it's a pretty traditional. Yes, place. Then also not that traditional. They're very proud of. The Boston Way and You know having a Sammy atoms and he's in some. Questionable! Used to also, but I'm just saying like this to Boston to be very brash and outspoken and. Unapologetic delay. You grew up near there. Am I wrong? No it's very insular. It's very much like this is how we do things and we don't really care about people. That's how I always felt. It sounds mean but I get what you mean about the welcoming. It's a good. It's a good. We city to spend a weekend in, but you wouldn't go there for a week like you could new. York yeah like new New Yorkers are different just to differ niches a city. That's a very. It's melting pot place like there's a there's a lot of people who are from New York. But you gotta get comfortable with other views of the world if you live in an international city, if an international city Boston's not. Yeah Yeah. It's like Internationals La San Francisco their international me. It's it's. It's confusing that you wouldn't. You'd be not okay with Brady showing his personality because that's what Boston is is very outspoken. Well as long as it's on their terms, okay well, yeah, so that makes on their terms what they're comfortable, right? Right Tom! Tommy is he. Tommy's a California guy. He's nine is going down to Florida got. He's got a international life. He's going to have some fun. He's GonNa. Do some crazy stuff. He leaves the city the minute. The season's over. You know. He's in New York City's in Costa Rica. You know he's having fun. Tom, Fun Guy. It's just new Boston. Suck the fun out of him. I mean they just stole. They just suck the personality out of choice like he was the leader of that team. He had to do what what Bella checks. Culture demanded as the leader of the team. So that's what. I'm way more fun to to move to California. My wife even says she goes. You're so much more social. When you live in California. She's like you got all these friends not to be. My wife left for about four days the other day she went to Chicago and I had a I. had a buddy everyday I did something and she's like. You were never like this when I met you. And I said I live in Connecticut. That's just not how the city roles in Pittsburgh it's. It's cold mostly. Mostly year. It's gray outside California's different. You know you look outside and see the palm trees. You know it's warm outside or like comfortable. I WanNa do things I worked with you. In both places, you are way more funding. Not even close yeah. I mean I. Just you get out to California, and and people are knocking on doors and asking them to do stuff, and let's try something new and yeah. I was a Downer in Connecticut. I am an upper here. Coming up next Baker. Mayfield Yama talk about him for a SEC. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon, eastern nine am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP. October. Sixteenth Nineteen seventy-two. To Congressman Vanish on a small plane in Alaska. Despite a massive search they're never found. The case goes cold. That is until I start researching it I'm standing right of portage. Pass and Alaska My name is John Wall Zach I'm a journalist based in, new? Orleans and what I found is one of the strangest stories you've never heard. Did he indicate what was in the suitcase? He said it was a bone. Mysterious radio transmissions. The Mafia. An alleged bombing. A brand new lead on the plane's location here right this stuff. Is, crazy. 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The It'd be at ag that with the amount of miles he has anybody. How often these talked about the know the pressure they put on him every little thing. He does in the loveliest performing afterlife in my opinion, I think these repeat. I felt the Lebron was the MVP for most of the season I understand the argument for Yana Spurs I don't incredible season obviously, and his numbers are terrific better than they were last year when he won MVP but just because Janas numbers are better than they were last year when he won. MVP shouldn't automatically mean that he wins. We'll call 'em VP. What is the MVP? What does it mean to be an MVP? You the most valuable player in the league, but the criteria for changes every single year we'll. That's because the writers don't know what they're doing, but that okay, so if that's the case, then you shouldn't be held to the standard that you have to vote Janas because his numbers are better than they were last year. Because if it changes every single year, then why is no set criteria? We Love Chris Russo Chris Broussard. Broussard argue this forever. He gave Westbrook the MVP because he created a new stat line. No, he didn't create a new stat line. He did something. I hadn't been done like thirty year. Okay, but it's not called the most. Here's something that got done that never been done in thirty years. Award I don't have a problem. I thought that that Russel. Westbrook was the MVP. Caesar's the most valuable player losing it changes every. Mile. In my house. Are you know? The way that it is voted on. That is presented changes every single year. What it actually is should be pretty clear, but it's not. It's not that and we know that the fatigue of giving it to one player over, and over again makes writers kind of force, the narrative different direction. Karl Malone got crushed because he wanted one year over Michael. But I thought I in Michael was the better player. It's not called the most better player award. Award but Karl Malone had a great year Charles. Barkley had a year and Barclays value to. The sons was more valuable than Michael I taught. I'll argue that Karl Malone had a couple of years. He was a monster. If you took Malone out of that lineup, they had no scores. It's not the best player. Lebron is the most valuable asset to conference the game the ball commissioner every month when they're. To Lebron every single year, you can make the art. No, said you could, and you can make the argument that this is the most valuable player to his team right like the best player on every team is the most valuable player. You don't have to give it to be honest this year and it's not. The honest isn't having an MVP level season he is, it's just Lebron is the MVP this year it. It's not even just the right thing to do. The sentimental thing to do, he is look at the entire scope of what his season has been he is. We just want our show just one best talk show in the country sports, right? We've got like three years in a row. Why can't I want a ten? Are, you gonNA, give it to somebody that doesn't work as hard because we've wanted to many years, talkers magazine. Thank you very kind and just, but we like it. We've want Multiple Years Neuro Goulet. Should we win it? Yes. Yes. So. Thank you guys. At. Four years in a row. Your show does. It wouldn't have changed right. It's not ours the years you didn't win it. We feel this justification to vote. People in the aren't Lebron because he's wanted so much. Is he the most valuable guy then? He gets the again this year. Why, why do I have to sweat? Mardi gras never changes. The grammys are in the same place. Why can't you give? Point though because the because the narrative for who should win the MVP changes every single year. Why can't it change this year like? I it's convenient now like Oh, well, we have gone. 'cause. We voted him last year and has better numbers. It's like okay, but the story for how you get the MVP changes every single year, so why it change this year and be Lebron's MVP. It should be lebrons, MVP. The numbers are irrelevant so the Knicks. Wait to begin their coaching search until they know their season is over, but when they do start the process Tom. Is reportedly, their top choice has a history with next. He was an assistant there from ninety six to two thousand and three. He's been out of the league since January two, thousand nineteen, when he was fired by the timber wolves he gets a lot of jobs doesn't want enough for my and I know he's a good coach, but he doesn't want enough for me. Well, what? He I think he just wears. It seemed like he wears players down, and and where staffs down everywhere he goes, he does that. So why is he getting her job? I do well because you know in the league. Everywhere he goes I'm cranky today. Worry goes the same thing is he wears guys out, so you'RE GONNA go to New York, and suddenly it's going to be a physical therapist back rubs all the time. Everybody's happy. Well, look I. Don't I don't really know that. There is a right choice for the New York next because I don't think the problem is the head coach and the problem is. We. Ship so I mean. Do I think that? Is a a good coach short would I like to see the next go and a revolutionary new direction and actually? Run the organization and a functional way, and and move into the future. Yes, are they gonna do that probably not. Like, Tom does reputation is great. Defense grinds guys right. They don't like it doesn't work. People get tired of it also not today's NBA at all. I think players like to be coached. Like to be coached I don't think they like to be i. don't think they like. The season is already grind. It is already a long shot with fired four times for the same thing. Wouldn't you at some point say? Much change things up. To get hired. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, getting hired you validate your believe. Right finally David Clowney has reportedly been looking for big money in his next contract. That's obviously not the only factor playing in his free agency decision according to Adam Schefter, the browns have been financially aggressive with clowney and offered him the most money to dates, but he has not taken the offered offer. Any seems hesitant to go to Cleveland. He's reportedly seeking north of twenty million per season on a long term contracts. The asking price quickly dropped reportedly around seventeen million, but apparently Cleveland is is not on the list of places that he liked to go play. I I, actually liked Cleveland going after jadeveon being cloudy I, don't I don't know if issue. He just doesn't want to live in Cleveland or he doesn't believe in the Organization for a long term deal, which would be understandable from his perspective, obviously as well. The grounds have not shown any sort of consistency when it comes to that, but adding a player likes being cloudy a veteran obviously he has. He has injury issues what he can. He's not consistent enough for me, but he makes splash plays. You mean a couple of huge played for the late in the season. That will game changing play. Yes, he's a disruptor. Yeah, so I I I. Don't mind clean going after him, but I I see both sides of this like very easily, because if he wants a term deal, and he doesn't Cleveland's ownership, or you know the stability of the franchise, and that's not a great place for him to go. News. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. Heard lie. So Baker Mayfield says new me, not cocky, not talking. People think like Baker Mayfield. I have problems with some of his personality traits. But he he came out now. It appears to be more mature here we go. The have a different approach to this year. you know I think it's everybody that has been interviewed in our team has done a hit the nail on the head over and over about you know, it's just time to work signed a door things that talking about it. This is the person media thing I've done just. There's no need to be talking about it. It's time to do it. Right now it's kind of moving in silence, which is fine with me. It's how I. Used to do it before getting on a bigger stage so I'm happy back to those roots of. Like I said earlier give back to the fundamentals to where I can accomplish the goals from season coming around. He's always welcome back on the set, I am predicting. He's going to have a very good year. Not an MVP year, but a very good year I'm predicting that Baker Mayfield makes the playoffs. Let me state. I think he's going to make the playoffs I'm picking Cleveland over. Pittsburgh checked my temperature, but I am I think their offense is stacked and I think their defense is good, and they have a real coach, but there's an old saying in our business and the media. You're gone before you know you're gone. If you take out the four games against the Cincinnati bengals Baker. Mayfield's a bust. If you take out the four games against Cincinnati the worst defense in the NFL last year and two years ago, the worst defense in League history. Baker Mayfield is nine and sixteen is a starter with a passer rating. At eighty four completion percentage at sixty one thirty nine touchdowns, thirty picks as a number one pick with all sorts of talent around him. He is a bust. But, he's going to get another year. But he better know. He's on the clock because Mitch Trubisky's about to be replaced and Mitch Trubisky. Has a nineteen and ten record. He wins two out of three starts. Mitch Trubisky, everybody loves him. Even the coaches that are going to replace him love him. They feel guilty. They apologize. When they yell at him. He doesn't have any videos that are bad. Mitch Trubisky is getting replaced and he wins. Baker Mayfield nine and sixteen takeout the bengals. He's getting replaced to if he doesn't win, I think he will and I think he's fine. But of SAM, darnold struggles. He will retain his job because there's been no misteps off the field and gays will be fired. Marcus, Mariota. Never improved his third year, he couldn't stay healthy. He was nonverbal. He didn't get better and his third year in Tennessee. He had thirteen touchdowns and fifteen picks, and they still supported him in year four. Baker Mayfield Got Kevin Stansky. Kevin's defence got to the playoffs with gus for ought to virus Jackson Christian ponder case. keenum kirk cousins and Christian and Teddy be. He will not stand for Baker Mayfield unraveling. This Guy Got Christian ponder to the playoffs. Wait a second for Baker Mayfield, the grow up. Not a second Josh Allen struggles this year. He made the playoffs. He'll be back. Sam darnold struggles. Good kid didn't have much help. He'll be back. This is Baker's year to shine trubisky. Get moved out of Chicago and he wins. He wins and he's a great kid and he hasn't called out. The medical staff and people feel guilty. The saying in my business is the saying in the NFL. You are gone before you know or have been told you're gone. Baker wins this year. It's over. I'm predicting. He will, but I think what he's saying. He senses the urgency like he knows it. He's burned bridges like he sees trubisky. He's smart Baker Smart. He knows I got to be quite win. Because this new staff Christian honor to the playoffs. They waiting for me to get my act together. All I know is rob Parker's next, and when rob is on the show, he's not and he's joining us. He's next. It's the her be sure to catch live. Editions of the Heard Weekdays at noon, Eastern Nine Am Pacific Rob. Parker host radio show with Chris Broussard. It's called the odd couple believe it's the fastest growing sports. Talk Radio Show in the country very sticky as they call it very funny. It, Fox sports one were giving him a new nickname today. I've never done this change. The guys nickname on the air. He works at USC as an adjunct professor. The nickname is the professor. For Rob. Parker, so we're just calling the professor. He is the professor now. Let's bring in I'm not saying he's not looney. Some professors can be loony. He's Rob Parker joining us via the our global satellite network. So, how how do you? How does that sit with you the professor? Do you like that? I'll take that. Yes, among students at USC they will love it as well. You know what Colin. I love teaching my classes. You met with them. They loved it. They loved it. There's so many smart young energetic. Bright minds out there so I love teaching at USC. Let's start with this you. You are a diehard baseball fan. you are. You're on my heard podcast baseball I. Think they got to get on this thing? You can't have your season all into football season. Do you have hope they're going to get this thing right soon, rob. I do have hope I know. Sometimes you know when is negotiations? It doesn't look good doesn't sound good, but Colin. Baseball CANNOT AFFORD TO GO eighteen months without a season is just would be ridiculous first of all. There's too much money on the table television. Wise and it can only hurt the players as they go into next year looking for new CBA if there's no baseball and the owners don't make any money. Here's the other thing America Needs Baseball America. Has Always Colin healed from baseball? Don't forget nine eleven. You remember. George Bush dawn out that pitch in the world series in. Two thousand one. Do you remember that up in the third game? How awesome that was and how much that may people feel like life was back to normal, and and even when we go to the ballpark and we stand for the National Lanham. Baseball started that trend back in World War Two, so baseball's part of our fabric it will return to normalcy. We hear it every day whether we're watching the game whether it's on in the. The car whether it's on the back in the background or you sit out on your deck, so baseball needs to be back for the recovery and the healing of this country, so Damian Lillard one of my favorite players came out yesterday, and said come on man. Consider everything Lebron's done this year. He's the MVP most valuable player what he's had to deal with an old roster throwing it altogether rabbi. No, you must agree with this. No Way. No, how? It's not a lifetime achievement award. What is Damian Lillard talking about? It makes no sense first of all Anthony. Davis has better numbers than Legrand except for assists so that's number. One number two Jaanus is having an unbelievable number. Go as all the stack geeks and pencil protectors. They'll tell you. It's one of the greatest seasons ever put together. His team has the best record. This is not about rewarding Lebron. And plus he added Anthony Davis Team Right? He has two of the best three of four players in the league, so they should be doing well. They should be winning. Damian Lillard is off year. If he put out a rap album, this was on it. I would buy a house that. By the way there's been articles I. Think this is the Mo said. Jordan had the last dance for Lebron. This is the last chance this is an old roster. A bad free agency class the caps coming down. It's a lousy draft. This is lebrons chance to win I do not I think. The clippers are built for five or six years I. Think the Lakers are built for this year. Agree or disagree. Totally Agree Colin a wrote this in my column. DEADSPIN DOT COM that labranche. COULD BE WANNA be the biggest loser when the Caesar we boot because he has to win this year. Just what you talked about where the Lakers are. You'll never know they'll be this good again. AD It can be. It becomes a free agent. dozy. We sign. He can be flaky. You don't know and here's the other part. And Lebron should be worried. About is all the other competition that also is going to return. Brooklyn will have durant and Kyrie together. Don't forget. Golden State will be a player. Steph and clay will be back right, and they'll get a good draft. Draft pick because they have the terrible season. So when you start to look around and you're right. The clippers to me were good team this year and they. You know Dave didn't even get a chance to really GEL. Those guys were in and out of the line of with injuries. So now them a year later. They'll be even better so I think the competition only stiffens, and it's going to be tough, so Lebron has to win if he doesn't win, he's the biggest loser especially because he's so long in the tooth at this point a Boston radio host Wbai. Lou Merloni said I don't like the new Brady I don't like the way sounds. He's trying too hard got thrown out of a park. He's not good on the match and my argument is. Boston is insular paralyzed by tradition. They don't like anything that's not like them and I think. Tom Brady is opened up a whole new exciting world on Jet Skis with his kids down in Tampa. What are you making this claim that the new Brady is? Doesn't work. The new brady is a phony. Where was this Brady for twenty years in New England? You Notice Colin. He was all shots Gee Whiz. He never gave you anything. Don't you remember when Peter Alexander NBC News? Adam is Tom Brady a cheater. He's shrugged. His shoulders said I don't think so. I'll never forget that moment remotely right and now he's like a college kid. Bat Down at Tampa. Eaten at hooters enjoy alive. He's great now. Let his hair down. Come on I'm not buying this new Tom Brady. At all. Do you think he's? Better Record New England Tampa. I'M GONNA go with new. England I! Know everybody's GonNa say I'm crazy and oh. You Hate Tom Brady on the buying into the Tampa thing I, do not believe they're going to remember this. Marcus shape down. They will not and Oh team. Make the playoffs Tom. Brady is old forty three. We saw him last year with the Patriots. It wasn't a pretty sight. One of his worst seasons and I think everybody deceives us, not played on paper just like a year ago, when everybody and their Uncle Piled on the bandwagon for the Browns, and they didn't even make the playoffs. That's not a bad. That's not a bad take. Alright the professor. Rob Parker of what your shirt say pulled up there. Let me see. It's Fox sports. All right. You know I have all kinds Aguirre. Get, Rob Dot Com Colin. I gotTa get you one of these. You enjoy all right. Get Run hoodie dot, com very nice. Thank you, professor or scholar appreciate it imagine pick up your smartphone opening an APP and controlling your grill remotely. That's what you do. ERECT TECH GRILLS DOWN South. They're the best by one. You'll never have the by another wreck tech Ari CETEC GRILLS ASK DOT COM. Now! Eric Nanjiani joining me. I didn't think. I didn't think my Baker. Take again was negative Baker I. If you look at the conclusion of my Baker Mayfield rant, it was Baker is figuring out. Baker is on the clock, big-time Stefanski one with case, keenum Christian Ponder Gus Farrah Playoffs Teddy Bridgewater, he not waiting a second for Baker to get his act together. I think Baker knows it. That's why he's on his porch. Saying no more talk I thought it was a very uplifting commentary. On Baker I did call him a bust so far if you take out the Bengals Games, and that statistically he is a bus so far if you take out the four games against the worst defense in the league the last two years. Is that. Is that a negative or a positive commentary? Did you calling him a bus or? He is he's learning I. think a number one pack. We're not calling trubisky. He's nineteen and ten, and they want him out in Chicago Baker is nine and sixteen. Heck is not bakers fault, but it does come with certain levels of expectations whether that's fair. Unfair life isn't fair. But I think also has been in the game a little bit longer. He's starting to learn how these things work. You know I mean the longer you're in business, the more you you understand, the politics and how things move how one decision affects another? Like it and know that coming into the business. I mean that's that's for some. They already get that. And sometimes it takes a little longer yeah. We're apart these days. 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Global Satellite Network former NFL coach three Super Bowl for the Patriots on that staff so I think this stinks I like quarterbacks like hands, teams, guys keep him Aaron Rodgers out of Super Bowl. What is what is your? What is your take and it didn't even get to vote. It didn't even get much support. I understand why and look it would have been the legacy of the xfl if it had gotten pushed through and to me, this is this is taking special teams even more on the game. I, it is called football I. There's got to be an element of feet involved in this and the kicking game has to be involvement I understand that that everybody wants a easier path to victory, or and but it's. The forces teams to be good in all three phases earliest be competent in all three phases in order to to win. A Game I had a story last week and I thought of you. That's why I'm so glad you're on us to coach the jets. Jamal Adams is very good. He's a he can rush the passer. He's a dynamic playmaker. But. He's a safety. And when you have a football roster in a salary CAP, and you've got holes throughout the roster, there are times I'd be willing to move off a player I. Love who I think is great down. There's the argument. The jets don't have enough star players, and he jumps off the field. He jumps through the TV screen. You ran the jets today. What do you do with? Jamal Adams great going to be hyper expensive, and he's a safety. We. There's things that consider outside of just what he does on the field, the six overall pick. He's been well compensated. He wants more money right now, and he wants to go to Dallas. If you accommodate them in both those cat, let's say let's say do make the trade. What message are you sending to the rest of the Locker Room? The next guy that's unhappy is gonNA come up and say okay. I want to trade I. Want more money and you create that precedent. Organizationally in terms of how you're going to do business, and and it's a dangerous one to to do that now. If you think that you can get real value form, and you can help your team longer term. He doesn't totally fit your philosophy and vision then then yet go ahead. Do what's what's in your best interests, but to allow guys shoot their way out of town I? Think it's think it's a bad message to send. Yeah, no, I get it so a you know New England well coach. They're got a lot of rings because of it, so one of the talk show hosts their Lumo Loney. Said listen, he said I. Don't like this New Brady. This new Brady's talk and he's not funny. He's out there going into parks and getting thrown out of them. He just doesn't feel like our Tom it's. My takeaway is Boston is paralyzed by tradition. They like you to do things. Their way and Tom is kind of aspirational. He wanted a new life. He wanted a new. He wanted to have some fun. And this is just part of. It doesn't bother me. But what do you make of the criticism from some Boston people that you know what the new Brady look silly trying too hard too much business. We're not comfortable with it. Yeah He. He's not your Tom Anymore. He he's. And may be mad at your ax because they're going out and doing some things that you guys didn't do together. But what's time really doing? It didn't interview on Howard Stern okay, so that took two hours his life, and then he did a Tiktok with Giselle. There's another thirty minutes Oh, and then he did the horrible thing where he went and did a Charity Golf Tournament and raise twenty million dollars for covert relief. To me all those things, just such a horrible waste of time. That that's not going to be the thing that affects them in Tampa, Bay, what's going to affect them in Tampa? Bay is what system they adopt and of. It's the Bruce Arians system with just a little bit input from Tom that's going to have much bigger effect than Tom Being. You know this new whatever Tampa. Tom Or to not take serious tom yet. None of it really matters so baker I said this earlier and people think I don't like Baker. Of course I'm very optimistic and cheery personality I like everybody unless they took me. That's right right Mr Cherry often. So if you take out the four games against the Bengals, the worst NFL defense historically two years ago and the worst defense in the league last year. He's nine sixteen sixty percent completions thirty nine hundred thirty picks. He's a bust, a number one pick. He's a bust. I don't think he'll be a bust this year, but he did say yesterday. Hey, no more talking just doing. I think bakers figured out. This is the end of the road, too fancy got Christian ponder the playoffs. He's not wasting a second with Baker. If any of this maturity issue surfaces, so might take away his baker. I don't know if he's changing, but I think he can sense the temperature of the room. That's my takeaway in his comments, your thoughts. I liked what beggars saying even when we were at the Super Bowl and he was down there, and and it felt like he had a better perspective in there, there's more humbleness to to his approach, and that's what what you need to do I like the approach, or or what I'm seeing out of the browse and this entire offseason. The only thing we're talking about is they're all in challenge where someone gets the call play, and that's a great thing. We're not talking about the hyper expectations or the issues off the field it's it's been a much more quiet approach, and and and to me that the credit to Savannah skiing and the way. Way that they're doing things from acres perspective. It's great now. Hopefully, this is the way that that that he stays now. He did also say in one of those interviews. The third year is a big year for contract. So that lends itself to what you're saying Colin. This is a little bit of reading. The tea leaves and saying if I want to get that next bite of the apple, I need to do a lot better job of not just managing things on the field, but managing things off the field. Did you like when he talks about his contract? Do you think that's something I? Don't love it, but it is what it is. No I liked when he was talking about. We just need to go out and do it. I have a different approach. Those things to me were were really exciting. Because it does show, maturity chose humbleness, it shows a respect for for the game, and and when you start adding in the contract, the cynical side comes out. We say okay. He's just saying this because he thinks it's the right thing to say. I'm hoping it's says the former that he has matured and has a totally different approach, Cam, Newton Market Small Forum. Tiny no takers. Bridgewater's got a job. Mariota's got a job nick. Foles has got a job. James has got a job Camden Naveh job shocked. What kind of job does he want? He is he willing to take a million and a half like some of these other backups are are taking. That's that's a pretty big salary adjustment for a guy like cam is willing to come in and truly be a backup and support the Star I said this in New England. They're not looking for a star. They're looking for a starter and camp comes with a big personality with a big presence with a lot of distractions, the other side of it is how much has his his throwing motion really changed and we haven't. Haven't seen it the change of throwing motion under real pressure. It's hard to do that at this point in a guy's career, so you don't truly know what you're getting. Do I think there'll be a market form yet? Some point and I think he should wait right now. Somebody's going to go to camp. See that the the quarterback situation isn't what they hoped and he'll get a lot more money. Little bit down the road by the way either opportunity. I would be remiss if I didn't mention us. I told you during the break. How great you looked I, said. You just look fantastic. Can you told me you're trying something and I think it's important because there's a lot of people out here during the virus, and we're all trapped in our houses and I think this is important, and it shows great. Discipline you are going to. What do you call it now? I've been on the intermittent fasting program trying to to limit it to now look, this isn't for everybody. Warsame is is one meal a day. Nazis in the evening and then I supplemented with coffee during the course of the day, but look I, I I'm probably not the best guy to to follow their. You know weight loss routine. I'm pretty up and down. You can look at the pictures over the years. down-cycling, hoping to stay there as long as possible alright well, you look fantastic and by the way when you come back to town, we're going to have dinner. Ominous by it and fasting will not apply it will be. Post five o'clock Eric Manji. By the way joy, whitlock is what locks doing that right? I think so yeah I've this is not the? I know a lot of people that are doing that right now. Actually it's incredible I, saw Eric, said we wow, and he said I'm doing the intermittent fasting and so two people in this building. You're doing it with the. He calls himself one meal, whitlock. Can't well I mean I? I have no desire to do it, but also which is the most important thing, but also I. can't. I have to eat something in the morning or I will not feel well and you up pretty early so. I imagine if I got up later in the day and my day started later. I might be able to wait but like when you get up. At six o'clock in the morning, and then you're working. As, we're not saying we're doing hard work for like. My Day starts early. I wake up at six and not eat until five. I think that's amazing. You can go till five and ninety eight. I've had a delicious bowl of OATMEAL. Terrific I haven't snuck off to get a sandwich. We don't have anything here anymore. It's discouraging so I. I had a banana. And I had OATMEAL. Full breakfast every day and eggs spinach. Turkey, Bacon, or an avocado you you're. You're a hearty breakfast eater. Same Lefty Breakfast Anza same way. I'm not. We'll knock down a prime rib. Eight forty five love breakfast yes. Yes, but I'm impressed by the Whitlam. I'm impressed, too. I mean I'm not a huge snacker. Like I don't really snack on a lot of stuff so I do. Yeah you because you're used. I don't eat meals graze all day. Yeah, I thirteen times a day. I'm not joking he. That's how I e. Okay joy with the news. On the news. This is the hard line new. Fast to Oh i. just by Yeah Bad, not healthy I a cartoon cartons. They open their mouth. Dump the food. It's gone. So in the last dance Michael, Jordan said he was offended that the media compared him to Clyde Drexler. When the two met in the NBA finals and Clyde responded to MJ's DIS, joining plenty of other players unhappy with the comments that Jordan made in the. Documentary, of course, obviously, it's going to be from his perspective and a lot of times. Guys didn't like each other from other teams. But as you get older, you gotta you gotTa get beyond all of that and show some lows anthem respect for the people you've played with and against. This is a team game. It's not it's not one guy I mean. You could have fifty points at four rebounds for if you lose. Are you less of a player than anybody on the other team? Now so it's a team game so I hate when people act like it's the individual competition. I didn't take thirty five shots and get twenty thousand. Forty point. Shot at MJ. Their Lamb J. earned his way to the free throw line. He was fouled. Look here's the thing about the the last documentary and everybody's reaction to it first of all. If you participated in the documentary in any capacity in, you're upset and I i. don't have a huge amount of sympathy for you because. It's Michael Jordan. Everybody knows Michael Jordan. Is You played with Michael Jordan? You of all people should know how Michael Jordan is also don't get. It twisted the reason we're interested in. This is because of Michael Jordan. Like, that was a great team and we loved it. You know I was great because Michael Jordan was on it. So Michael Jordan had to approve the documentary happening. That means it's Michael Memory. They didn't have to ask anybody else if they could use the footage. They asked Michael Jordan. Documentary what the other thing I've! Had People say this to me? Why do you think he retired? And and I've always said his father's life was taken, but you know what you really watch that documentary. What became really clear? Michael had so much of the offensive burden. Pippen was never a natural twenty-five game score. He was a great slasher. Coup coach was a more finesse player although he could score twenty-five. You couldn't rely on Tony to give you twenty-five. The. Centers were mediocre scores. Current Paxton were shooters, not scores right. They can give you six seven big shots over a week. But the reality is if you go back to that ninety eight season, my takeaway is once. Pippen got hurt. Michael was it. It's amazing. It's the best basketball team like the warriors God durant could struggle Claes. Hot I. You have games were Steph. Just struggled doesn't matter durant clay and it wasn't just. It wasn't just Pittman Rodman's gone doing whatever he's doing not coming to practice like he's dealing with the media every second of every day asking him the same question literally at every single media scrum like if there's there's a lot that he was dealing with, but the my thing is like you're getting mad at Michael Jordan for. For being Michael Jordan A and B. There's a reason why he gets to make these calls. When you when you become the greatest that something or you're great at something, you're the only one that can do something you get to make decisions. Everybody else doesn't get to make because you're the best. There's a reason why he's the best. He worked hard to be the best. Yes, he has natural talent, but this goes for any other business. If you're the best, that's something people come to you like hey. Howard Stern. What do you think about this? What's your call on this? And then they take what Howard says and they do it not because they necessarily have to miss because he's Howard Stern when they wanna from Oprah. Oprah says you know what this is how we should do it. They do it when you're the best at something you get to make those halls. Those calls. Be The best. To make those calls so to has looked good in recent workout videos as he continues to come back from his hip injury does the Dolphin still have Ryan Fitzpatrick and case to isn't ready to go in the season starts, but multiple NFL coaches reportedly believed that it's a foregone conclusion that to a will be the dolphins week one starter. I am starting to believe that he will be the week. So that that is I was looking down at my notes. Week one foregone conclusion. Well that's starting to be the feeling. Yeah and look I would like to see to be in a situation similar to Patrick mahomes where he can sit for a year. You know maybe some extra time on the doctor I don't know, but to his SAR power is just probably not going to permit that even if they did start the season with Ryan Fitzpatrick if Brian Seems. Seems to struggle at all in any capacity. There's going to be a groundswell for to to get out there. It's just he he's. He's already has too much of a platform to to sit. Like Patrick Mahomes not playing his first year. We didn't. We weren't quite sure what Patrick Holmes was yet. We had an opportunity to see that I think I can tell you something. To is going to start and this team's GonNa, make the playoffs. I just changed my mind. I got so much of a buzz right now. Yeah, you're your. Name Miami needs a star quarterback. They hear he absolutely. There's no. Way Guy. You've got had too many. Just guys bouncing around the Dolphin Gimme a star Gimme. Two I'm very excited. The are finally the rams rams announce the dates for their preseason schedule yesterday they host the saints in their first preseason game of the year on Friday August. Fourteenth, which is scheduled to be the first ever events held in the new five stadium. It's beautiful, I fly over it so the net now that's an old picture. It will be ready to go the chargers first preseason Game August sixteenth against the cowboys, and they're going to to share this facility, which is beautiful, but yeah, it's so it is. It is on track to be done. Construction workers that work on top about stadium. How do they do it? I, don't I don't like heights? I don't mind heights, but certain every once in a while I kind of get near something. Elevators and big buildings right like yeah. I don't like elevators anyway, but yeah, those those ones that go up like seventy flights flying. I got overflying long ago except you ever been in a hell helicopters. I've been in those couple of times the helicopter. When they're stationary in your hovering above something planes. I'm just going four hundred miles an hour. Really scared on planes and then one day literally I was sitting on the plane and was like. If, something goes wrong. I can do nothing about it. I have zero control in this situation, so I'm just going to sit here and wear my seatbelt and. You know hopefully we get there. That's exactly how I look at my marriage I. Have No control over it. If we crash, I'm just GONNA put a seatbelt. No no way of keeping you. No I mean. I somebody else's flying the plane and flying. The plane I just I. Just hope it doesn't crash. I got my seatbelt on I. Just can't control it. That's how I look at married. I used to be petrified and then I just Monday gave up power. Admit you know it's easier because of course, the job of the man is what we. Get very upset when I say that, but. It's funny true. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping. Heard lie? Okay, so we're going to do it. It's National Spelling Bee Day and the staff said okay. We're going to do the spelling bee with Colin and embarrassed Colin, so we're GONNA. Here we go with the spelling bee. It's coming up next the sports spelling round corner. Be Sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific all been spending more quality time with family to invest in something great for them and you summers here. Why don't we try a wreck? Tech Grills? Rak Grills Act grills with an s dot. com I didn't know if I was back because they turned off all my monitors. Everything is black in the studio for me. I can't see anything because today should be the scripts spelling beer yesterday. Yesterday, but it got cancelled because of the virus same, so we thought we would do to end our show best for last. The heard spelling bee, so they turned off the cameras. Everything in the studio is pitch black. My my monitors black the middle one. It tells me to read something, but I'm. It's discover commercial, so that's all it has, and then this one doesn't have any words on it so I'm not cheat. I can't. No I can't cheat, so we go. We're doing the her. I can't even look at. They won't even let me look at myself. Why can't I look at myself? Can I use a pen? No I can't use a pan. Those kids can't use that. They Mimic. You can mimic writing on their hand. Yeah, you can write it out. Okay here. We go all right. The word is. Well let's just say the name is. The name is Ross Burger. King Rothlisberger. R.. O. E.. T. H.. L. S.. B. E. R. G. are. Very good. I'm impressed, didn't even need to use it in a sentence or anything. The name is Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo forty niners quarterback correct. G. A boys at one or two hold on. G. A. R.. Lord is at one art. Polo G. G. A. R. R. A.. P. A. L. L. O.. G. A. R., O. P. P. O. Elo God I was not your best. It went off the rails quickly. I tell your facial facial. All Right? Let's see if we can get this one. And the COMPO-. Yawn us. Can I just do John us? No, you cannot do. You already to sit the wrong buzzer. Now, wait. No I've looked at this for. A N. T. Anti. And then it goes Te'o Ko. You and Show. How very good yeah? You. Convince your. Cheating somehow. No way that's amazing first of all I butchered Garoppolo you. I mean there's no question you buzzer Garoppolo. It's also seen. Your honest and Rothlisberger is names a million times like Garoppolos the support teeth best quarterback. I don't see his name as my I'm impressed thought. He had no chance of getting that wonder. How about don T H. Lamont. Daunted I think it's a NCI see. That's an easy one America yeah alright. Cesky. I've. Drink water on so years ago by the way you can ask for country of origin or to be used in a sentence if you need a, how would you use it in a sentence? Shefty Ski Mike Chef's chef's key is the coach of. How Coach K.? All right here cheating so years ago I figured out a way to remember this because I interviewed him so many times I was kind of embarrassing, but I couldn't spell his name. Okay, so I remember it was. K. R. Z. Y. Zukowski so K. R. Z. Y. Z. E. W. S. K. I. Wild. But I did that years ago because I was embarrassed K. R. Z. Y. Zukowski. Pretty good yeah, all right Pulisic! Christian, Pulisic? Love Christian Pulisic what's his country of origin is Croatian. That helps a lot. Okay Okay again. Am I can I close my eyes. I can't. I can ride on my hand or I, can't you? Can you can? No, you cannot use a patent. You cannot use a pen. I can't use a pan now. What is your writing under handwriting on paper P. U.? L.! I. S. IC-. Yes, yes. Right. Gone a butcher Garoppolo. Close. Go at that if we have more time, I think if you did. I'd still push for it to a son by lower or come on. Now now that. He's barely played I. Don't I'm a butcher that, but so this might be worth like shefty you learning how to spell if you can't get. What's his family of origin? Some? He's Moen. That helps not at all. Colin likes to its on by Loa more than jober. What's the one after him? Can I skip one. Can you do that in spelling bee? No but. Ourselves Pass. You're not allowed to pass in the spelling. Bee! Right so you. This I don't want to humiliate him or me. Come on! You Way to a I can't i. Can't do tons. Of It you've seen it at Alma T. U. N.. With what he what? You're. Going Tunga Vilo. So I'm trying to Tonga via Loa thing. Okay. N. G.. A. V. E. L. A.. Could saw. Tell me how to spell. After, T! Literally T. A.! G. O. Cohen. I L A.. It is not. About how? His Dad, misspelled it twice this I. Don't think so impossibly. All right since you wanted to skip which you probably should have. The last one is Tj. Our friend. Spell this. I'm embarrassed for life. I consider him a friend if I can't spell his name. This is why I learned how to spell shosh. I've actually gotten good at spelling his name. Okay Zodda, dot. H. O.. U. S. H.. So My right there hush. Lord and he'll get an archive tape of this. It'll be brutal. Don't talk yourself out of it Cushman's OUGHTA. Age! Oh, you s age. What's his? Fam- origin. It says here went to Oregon State. It's. Not The origin country of origin. Cutoff. Age Ou Iranian. His mother is African American. Men's am. God. There's an a in their. Mea N D men. Z. A. D. H. Close. Close so it's H.. O. U. S. H.. You're right about that M.. A. N. M. A. N., A. Man. Of course, it's a cushman. Outta the Z. A. D. H.. Is actually not hard to spell. If you his country of origin Corvallis Oregon. Oregon State you WanNa, give Garoppolo another try. Let's try it again. All right. Jimmy Garoppolo G. A. R.. A. P. P.. O. L. Let. Go Rap Okay G., R.. O. P.. O. L. L.. G. A. R. G. A.. R. O. P. P. O.. Very good fifth time's The charm. That's always so it's been. You actually did a lot better than I thought you were going to do I didn't think you were going to get coach. K. I knew from years ago right that one new from years ago and Rothlisberger I've seen Roethlisberger's just, are we then it's easy I. When we mentioned this morning, we were going to do this I didn't realize you would already have a memorization method for Szumowski I. Feel like you kind of knew that's probably why. Why you're okay with this, you need have one of the curve. Balls figured out well if I want one for nine I'd still be a public humiliation, so I had to get more than one. If you went one for nine, but you've got Szumowski Ski I. Don't know if that'd be that bad. Because that is the hardest one is, it's worse not being able to spell a friend's name Mike was on my show. Mike texts me. I can't not be able to spell Mike Chef skis name. He me Andy Reid text me TJ's friends I. Know that's why I'm humiliated. I can spell OCHO HBO. Chad Johnson I that one down too I do love the spelling, though yeah, those kids are unbelievable war, so you just memorize a dictionary I mean. How do you? What do you You get to the X.? Y. Z. words. Like drill and stuff like a lot of pressure to all my Lord. It's televised. That may be in the world. The smartest Group of one hundred fifty people ever assembled other than that thing they do in like Sun Valley Idaho every year. Words all the like tech geniuses. The brain power. Those kids yeah. I remember my spelling bee in high school. I can remember I got forty nine, hundred fifty. I misspelled Hawaii. Hawaii is H. A. W. A. I. What did you do ha w i. I came home that day. I was furious because I love states I love maps I. It was literally six great. I can remember misspelling it, so you can't sell Hawaii or quarterbacks from it. Exactly. How bad today you check things all the time like your email, your XS instagram, but what about checking something as important as your credit discover, makes it quick, easy free free to discover now offering fight credit score score used by ninety percent of top lenders or check it out. Order your credit when you check the discover credit scorecard free for everybody learn more at discover dot com slash credit. 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Drew Brees, Eagles, Cowboys, and the Herd Hierarchy

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

2:01:07 hr | 2 years ago

Drew Brees, Eagles, Cowboys, and the Herd Hierarchy

"Thanks for listening to the heard podcast, be sure to catch us. Live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon, Pacific on Fox Sports, radio, and f s one find your local station for the hurt at Fox Sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio app by searching heard. You're listening to Fox Sports radio. Oh, a Tuesday. This is the heard live in Los Angeles wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening iheartradio Fox, Sports, radio f s one it is great to have you in record-setting night for drew Brees one of my all time. Favorite players, joy Taylor is joining me on Tuesday. That was fun. Last night learning. That was quite a moment. Quite a moment for drew Brees and I, you know, it's a couple of months ago. I don't come in six months ago. We just had a day. We were just talking about quarterbacks and they kind of run the sport now and there's only seven or eight great ones on the planet right now. And I said, drew Brees of I started watching football in one thousand nine hundred seventy two. I'll give you the year before we show any tape nineteen seventy two. I watched the Super Bowl between Miami and Washington from that day forward on that, it was a January in nineteen seventy-two from that day until today I've been watching football and it's been my favorite sport. I like college football. I like the NBA NFL is my favorite sport. Football guy always have been, and I listed the great eight quarterbacks, and I put drew Brees on that list. Then people like, wow, what about Aaron Rogers? What about Steve Young? And I'm like folks. I don't know what it is and why we choose to support certain people, but I, I just want to let you think about drew Brees for a second. I'm always more impressed when people overcome things in life. I want you to think about the obstacles drew Brees is faced in life. Number one DNA. He's six feet tall. There was no Russell Wilson. People didn't want to draft him six feet tall quarterbacks. Don't make DNA disadvantage junior year, high school, tears, his NIA senior year. Nobody will give him a scholarship except to basketball schools, Purdue and Kentucky. He goes to the NFL where he's good in San Diego for three years, and then they draft Philip rivers. Another obstacle. Oh, by the way in the NFL is last game in San Diego. He. Hurts his shoulder, and then it goes to Miami and publicly. The doctor says, I can't clear you to play obstacle and he goes to New Orleans and it's a natural disaster Katrina obstacle. They play home games in San Antonio, one of them in New York, and then halfway through his stand New Orleans, Sean Payton get suspended for a year. His architect his his life is a movie that you cry at you cry during. It's not a documentary. It's a tear Jerker. It's a star is board. I mean, it's incredible what he's overcome. We live in a time now guide you spend five minutes on Twitter. It's woe is me everybody's against me. I had, hey millennials. Sorry of mom didn't pack your lunch and fold. Your underwear drew. Brees. It's been every two years. A major obstacle, natural disasters, DNA injuries. His timing's been terrible. Got he goes to New Orleans Katrina. Anna, his last game in San Diego, he gets Bert the the greatest eight quarterbacks I've ever seen play the game, Payton Brady, Montana, Bradshaw Elway, Marino Aikman breeze, and all of them have different stories, but compare it to Peyton Manning. He broke his record last night right passing yards, but just think about in nearby way. Peyton Manning is one of the best I've ever seen. I've never talked to Peyton Manning, talk to Cooper cop to ally and Payton's great. I was more of a Brady guy than Peyton, but Peyton than all time. Great guy all time. Great. But think of Peyton Manning's path, Peyton Manning DNA. Perfect, six, five pay Manning's dad, and I fell quarterback Peyton Manning had his choice of SEC school surrounded by NFL players. And then when he goes to Indianapolis, they land Bill Polian hall of fame, general manager who gives Peyton Manning great player after great player after great player on the offensive side. He also got drafted. I mean, if you think about Peyton Manning's life and he deserves all the acclaim, it didn't face. All these obstacles drew Brees from DNA on nothing but hurdles, nothing but roadblocks and he breaks Peyton Manning's record. It's unbelievable. So when I say great quarterbacks and people push back on it, I'm like, look at your own life. I mean, I say this all the time. I had a few divorces in my life when I was a kid, but my mom was doting. My dad was a doctor, so I got some of his brain power. I had a good relationship with my sister lived in the same house forever. I got a quarterback in high school. I fell in love with sports. I grew up in a small town, so there was lots of space right next to the beach had a good dog. I may add some issues in my life, but I didn't have that many roadblocks that had a good life. I went to therapy ones as like, what am I crying for? I didn't have any roadblocks. There's a few divorces in my life drew Brees is life his athletic career. Ear, his professional career. It's just like it's a steeplechase hurdle after hurdle after hurdle after hurdle after hurdle in, here's the play where he set the record. To the families on the field intimidation of celebration will we get it here before halftime. In that great. Then that fitting a big play. A big play. Congratulations to drew Brees. He is scheduled the phone us in one hour one of my all time. Favorite guys. He is just diligence. I mean, if you had four or five words that describe him, it's guile and guts, and grit, and great and all boxed into one tip of the cat. One of my all time, favorite guys started watching football nineteen seventy-two. His story is as great as anybody that's ever played that position in this league. Amazing. Let me shift gears to this drew Brees. It's fitting drew Brees did what he did last night because the NFL's hard careers don't last very long. You don't have guaranteed contracts. A doctor can say, you're not cleared to play. It's hard. That's why I think I've always liked football players more than other athletes. It's hard man. It's hard. Successful guys are dealing with injuries. So the Philadelphia Eagles yesterday that just found out j. Gye a running back towards ACL. Oh. Another. Bit of bad news for the eagles by the way he called out the team and their play calling hours later, we found out. ACL tear probably out for the year. Yep. When you win in Philadelphia. And then you start lecturing. The NFL drew Brees showed you last night. It's hard. Think about all the things that have changed in the last five to six months for Philadelphia, their offensive coordinators now head coach. He left in Indianapolis, their quarterback coaches now the offensive coordinator in Minneapolis, la- Garrett bunk, Trey, Burton, Brent Celik retires, Torrey Smith traded Mike Wallace placed on I r Darren sproles out since week. One Jay jibe probably out for the year k. This is why I said the Philadelphia Eagles books. Parades chatter politics reminded me so much of my hometown, Seattle Seahawks. New England is on their eighteenth straight year of being in the Super Bowl conversation. Do we understand how unbelievable that is? College sports are built for dynasties the best teams get the best players in recruiting the NBA the best cities added more great players in the NFL. When I watch what's happening to Philadelphia, he just illustrates how unbelievable what the New England Patriots are doing. We're a few months removed from the Super Bowl champs. They go into camp there a mess, their season, Thursday against the New York Giants. I know it's like week sticks, but am I wrong saying it's a must win. This is why I compared the eagles to the Seahawks they were historically frustrating franchise. They laugh. Star quarterback doesn't take long. They win the Super Bowl. They get loud. They start talking, they lose coordinators and the next morning they wake up, oh, oh, we're back to being what we looked like. You ever throw a big party your house. You ever throw a big party at your house. And I mean, here's my thing, but my wife and I want to twice a year, we'll throw a party and I'm like, I don't wanna party till four in the morning because I know what it looks like in my house. The next morning when I wake up, this is why one of the mantras on my show is celebrate briefly grind daily. The bigger the party, the bigger the mass. The following morning when you wake up and the Seahawks the eagles they party like crazy. They're writing books and parades and talking and politics and look at them. Folks get into the top is one thing staying there is harder. There's been a lot of one hit wonders in music. There's a handful of legends. In Philadelphia, don't give up on them. That divisions not very good. I still think the Philadelphia Eagles will find a way to get into the playoffs. But what you're seeing Jay aja out now, probably for the year, you know what you should be thinking about how damn impressive New England is college. Sports is built for dynasties, Duke wins, title. They get mortgage players, bam, Ohio, State window title. They get more good players in the NBA. Stars are joining stars in the NFL Philadelphia. That's got a good owner, a great GM. A great coach, a great quarterback. Check, check, check, check, check, all of the great offensive line, great defensive line. It's man overboard. Six months later. All right. Troy Aikman's talking this morning about Dak Prescott and that's making a little bit of news, joy, Taylor's. Joining me today drew Brees will join us and forty five minutes, Doug Gottlieb this hour and a member of the Cleveland Browns. You think I don't like Baker Mayfield then why am I bringing on his starting tight end today? It probably blasts me. It'll break crush me and I'm bringing him right on the show. I may just take Cleveland to beat the chargers this weekend. You seen that tasty betting line. That's pretty interesting this what we're doing now calling on, you have to step into by one if you want to. You know, get things started on a nice note. David joker just mentioned that you like the university of Miami and you'll be good. I know he's a great player, their one of their many great tight ends. So Troy Aikman's talking about Dak Prescott mcavoy's. We'll have that for you next. Hi, it's the heard. All right, guys, close your eyes white. 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Tommy John dot com slash heard for twenty percent off by the way congrats to the dodgers totally stack lineup, Cody Bellinger hit seven last night, you seal Puig eighth and they brought David freeze and Chris Taylor off the bench. So that's the dodgers who have a stack lineup. They're going to go up the faced Milwaukee, Colorado winner Milwaukee. So they'll play talented Milwaukee who's got the best closer that went that start Sammy Friday in Milwaukee. All right. Good luck. Milwaukee's got Milwaukee stack as well. You know, I'm thinking about this Troy Aikman was talking about on Dallas radio this morning. He was talking about Dak Prescott. And Troy. Aikman said something, and you know, in Troy talks in Dallas about the Cowboys and the car quarterback situation, everybody listens. So he said this morning about Dak Prescott. He needs to be more accurate. First thing I look for his accuracy because the rest of it doesn't matter leadership size, smart. I've seen too many throws in that regard and there needs to be a little more and dissipation. He just needs to be more accurate. And it's, it's very interesting like in. In the NFL if you get the quarterback right, and you get the head coach, right? You can screw up a lot of other stuff. You really can't. It's like in the culinary business. If you get the food. Right, and you get the service, right? You can screw up a lot in that business, but the food's good. The service is good. You know that had the great location. People will find your restaurant. There's a lot of holes in the wall all over America. Great food, great service lines around the block, and it's not even a nice block. Okay. Location didn't mean anything gotta get the food right in movies you get the script right yet. The director, right. You don't have to have Tom Hanks in every movie. You got a great script. There's been a lot of movies that are made that you don't know anybody in the movie script right director, right actors, less important in the NFL yet the quarterback. Right. And you get the coach, right? The Rams have it a Kansas City. Has it New England has it, you know, and not many teams doing it like that New Orleans, obviously. Has it, you can screw up in a lot of different areas in Dallas quarterback. Head coach, Jason Garrett, Dallas is doing a lot right star. Running back. That's important. Ask the Rams good offensive line. That's important as the Rams. They got great young pass rushers. I love their linebackers when Sean Lee is healthy, would this group I love their linebackers. Dallas is doing a lot right, good defensive coordinator, but Jason geared I saw this morning is the first head coach to be fired according to the oddsmakers. I Troy Aikman's right. In fact, I was looking at highest completion percentage in the NFL Dak Prescott twenty eighth. So they're doing a lot right in Dallas, but the the quarterback in the coach right now. Now Jerry Jones, he talked morning as well. Now Jerry, this is to me, this is very, here's the rub. Jerry so far has been very, very supportive of Dak Prescott. He said this this morning. Can firmly at the corner that we've got a quarterback that we can build with and have for us to come back Prescott. Okay. No mistake about it. Okay. But remember Dax making under a million dollars. What happens in six months when Dax agent asked for twenty six million dollars because by the way, Kirk cousins ask for thirty five got twenty eight. And Alex Smith ask for thirty and got twenty three and a half yet Dak Prescott at the current contract rate is a steal, but what do you think is age is going to come in at agents don't come in low. They come in high and want to get every penny out of you is Jerry Jones going to be so pro Dak when they ask for twenty seven point five million a year and they're not gonna take anything less than twenty three million. 'cause they're going to say, what about Alex Smith? Our guys not as good as Alex Smith, and they're going to throw up numbers and some of the. Are going to be the first year and a half numbers which look really good. So I, it's Dallas, but you know, listen, if you get the quarterback in the coach right in this league, you can screw up and a lot of places Dallas is doing a lot right, but they got beg beg questions coming up here, Dallas has a two big questions coming up in the next six months quarterback head coach, and they may have to make moves with both joy Taylor with the news. This is the headline news pretty cool moment for drew Brees last night, becoming NFL's all time, passing yard record leader on a touchdown, pass the trick. Once Smith pretty special moments, follow that with his family and all the fans in the stadium, and also very special with Peyton Manning's. Congratulations video to have you seen this yet. Funny, let's take a look for thousand days. I've held the record for all time passion yards in the NFL. How can I tell you? It's been the greatest thousand days of my life in thanks to you that's over now and you've ruined that for me. All shoes snus drew. Congratulations on this record. You've done it the right way. All your hard work and dedication paid off way to go proud of you. Good luck. The rest of the way. The reason that he's standing in front of a table with sliced tomatoes, anyone who didn't see the whole video. It's kind of a bit they did where he's like making a salad family. We have video was to Longchamps everyone. That's why there's tomatoes there. That was a nice little. Congratulations. I think you went into last night. You know it was one of those where all the legends were ready to congratulate him on Twitter, and he drew Brees is one of the easy ones by the way to root for the Howie. Long always says this, you can't have two quarterbacks in the same room because we're like lead singers and bands can have two lead singers. The quarterbacks are kind of, you know, they're kind of the guy, and there's a lot of animosity that unspoken and a lot of competitiveness. I think I think probably until they're retired, yes. Overtired they're not competing again. Like you see, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino's together and they're having the time of their lives. But but I think when they were playing, it's like it's a different story because can you know competitive nature drinking REEs is the one quarterback. I think all the great ones root for because they see the. Injuries. They see the sandiego situation like there's some, you know, Peyton Manning number-one pick. There's price animosity. Look at he added pave road. His dad was a quarterback. Andrew luck was a little bit adds to them to despite his, you know, tomatoes, slicing commercials, Payton's got Payton's got people that don't like him in Aaron Rodgers house. Those guys. The likability level that we were talking about. He's just he's just like a ball and he'll join us later today. So Patrick Mahomes and the five zero cheese will have their toughest test today on the road against Tom Brady and the patriots Brady spent his first NFL season backing up Drew Bledsoe as we know and home spent his rookie season backing up out Smith's and actually people are doing that comparison thing. But Brady says that is where the similarities between the beginning of their careers ends with different bands. You know, I think now I be both football more glorified college football, I think at some ways that the transition to support similar game than what it used to be. You know, when I first started football now is, is you know, with removing some of the physical element of the game, it's just it's more of a faith game. And you know, you see a lot of kind of college plays, you know, more in the pro game now than than what I remember when I started. So you know, that's kind of how things have win over the last one year. Well, Tom, he's not wrong. Tom, it is casing, Tom, it's a different world. Now, I, I mean, if I wasn't such a good reader of shade, I would have said that Brady was kind of taken a little little. I see a guy being told a little on the go, relax on on on praising pets too much yet. He hasn't beat me Tom Brady saying, yeah, it's three games I play eighteen years. It's slow down. Listen, look comparing. Patrick Mahomes at Tom Brady is obviously very silly at this point, but they also maybe east back on the whole, like physical element of the game, the NFL literally changing entire rules because your of your injury, like you were the start of this whole, that's not touch the quarterback thing. So it's kind of benefited you a little bit throughout your career. Brady's Brady's had two careers. He came in where it was a run firstly, and it was more violent and now a passing league. So you can go about nine ten years in Tom in the league shifted to benefit Tom? Yeah, there's no. He's not saying anything that is not true. It's just can like you have benefited from being as physical or maybe he heard that Patrick Holmes was dunking and we call him out for not posting his donkey video. Maybe that's, that's finally after going own sixteen last year, the Browns are two to one this year. And David joke who says the difference is in the competitiveness of the team is showing at the end of close games. I didn't really fight that we had this year. You know, our our team, you know is definitely bought in and locked in during the game. And I'm just so happy doing, you know, crunch times like the fourth quarter and overtime, you know it, it's it's, it's great to see for sure fakers one hundred, tremendous job obviously. And everyone just bind in focusing in and is working, you know, as as hard as they possibly can and not fight, not quitting until the clock is there. You know, he's a huge competitor. You know he like, you know, would seem during practice working extremely hard. The kid loves to compete. Here's the thing. Cleveland got better players now. Yes, there is. They've got good players. Another, we get the right players there. That's really what eight guys who are elite players slot receiver, adding Jarvis Landry was obviously running backs are very good legitimate running. Most teams on one Baker also was a big change of culture for the Browns. It's okay. We can admit it. I mean, I don't have to admit it because I was saying that he should have been starting from the beginning. But you know, he's a component to this. Win on field goals this week. Win is a win. David Jacoby here with us at ten forty, five joy with news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard, lie the Doug Gottlieb Fox Sports radio after my show across America. Let's bring him in the Duggar weekdays, three to six eastern Fox Sports radio. So I love drew Brees. The fight is real. The struggle is real. You have been you like drew Brees to, but you've said there are advantages that he had that people sometimes don't mention? Well, there's, there's a couple of things. I look. I don't want to take a ton of the shine off of drew Brees. Yeah, but don't think any of us even though the statistical dominance today, I would say he's the greatest quarterback of all time, correct? Yeah. I don't think he's the greatest, but he's way up there. He's up there. He's also helped tremendously as was Peyton Manning by playing indoors. That helps when he was with the San Diego Chargers, he had issues with arm strength. Yeah. Now, some of that is the miracle medical technology that's brought him back when people thought his career was over. But a lot of it is playing indoors and playing with a great play caller. But playing indoors, he's his numbers pale in comparison. His quarterback rating is ten percentage points lower his interceptions or up is touchdowns or down the wins, and losses are way down when they play on the road. Yeah, so he is helped. It's it's always been stats on steroids playing indoors. Yeah, it helped Peyton Manning for a long time. Another guy who struggled with arm strength. Additionally, he runs, he runs the benefit of playing for arguably the best play caller in the last twenty five years in consistently in the Nash. Football, certainly, certainly an argument for that. Yes, right. So you play for great play call. You play in a perfect place. And and I think one of the things that's taken away from his legacy is the fact that they had three consecutive seven, nine seasons after winning a Super Bowl. It should be pointed out. If you want to tell the truth, context and story, the saints were the aints for a long time. Everything we say about the Browns, the past ten years, we said about the same for twenty five years that millennials don't get this. They were the clippers right on the NBA for three decades right now. He wasn't the first quarterback to take them to the playoffs, but he was the first quarterback to win a playoff game. That's how bad they were. But they were hurt by the fact that he took as much money as he could during his previous contract, and they couldn't feel the defense around him. He took all that money, they couldn't put a defense around. So the true context of it is he changed the big ten when he and Joe tiller. They ran the spread really for the first time the forward four passed in the big ten hadn't seen it right. And that was the beginning of the end of the John Malkovich era at Texas because. He passed on a kid who was just down the street that would give his pinky toe to play for Texas and the trade that that ended up bringing him to San Diego was one of the great trades in the history of the sport, and then signing ultimate with the saints changed the sport forever. But he has been helped by playing in a dome playing with Sean Payton. And he did take a ton of money when he took that huge contract four years ago little like Steve Nash in the NBA to exactly who he is. I sat them like he's Steve Nash, and by the way, Steve Nash is a hall of Famer and great two time MVP. Great. No one would tell you he's the best point guard of all time was absolutely beneficiary of playing with Mike dantonio system and the evolution of the NBA. But I would argue this, I always say this about Bill o. Reilly. He was just swimming around until he got Roger Ailes is that everybody needs a kingmaker even Tom Brady. If if you give Carson Palmer to Bella check, Carson Palmer's career is really amazing, and it's one of those things that's interesting about heard you ripping Aaron Rodgers and ping. I've ripping. That's such a subjective word, rip. It's not subjective. I listened to the show since ripping. I was gently upbringing enjoyed joy, Taylor joy. Was he pro or anti Aaron Rodgers yesterday, I mean pro anti, there's a gray area, garbage, great gifts. Railing great. Give someone credit for well, so being critical, good. First half Italy didn't have a good first half, but it's more how he's handled his coach, right? Where you never hear drew Brees say anything about his coach, understanding that his coach allows him Tom, and this is one of the things with Tom Brady with whatever he's doing behind the scenes with Bela check publicly. He admits he's the greatest coach ever. Everyone has to be coached. Everyone has to be led. And I do think that drew Brees has benefited greatly for playing for Sean Payton, a guy who found a way to use Reggie Bush just like he drives the kid out at Tennessee who didn't couldn't start consistently at Tennessee and makes him into as diverse a weapon running back wide receivers. And all I'm saying, I don't think you're criticizing drew. What I would say is there is nobody Howard Stern was fired and then needed help better producer, Robin quivers, like everybody needs help. We, I think in the western culture, we build people up and tear them down. But the truth is behind. They always say behind any great CEO is a really strong life because she's she's running the house. I mean, couldn't you make this argument for any great quarterback like Tom Brady has benefited only laying with just one time. I tried to say this one time name a great quarterback without a great coach. It almost doesn't because even Dan Fouts you go, he didn't air coryell Bill Walsh. Will you don't think Mike Tomlin's any good. No, I don't. I will. No. I mean, you've been critical at Mike, Tom. I don't think that you'd think he's a bad code? No, he's he's never had a below five hundred record which is as good as we think Sean Payton. They had three, seven, nine in a row. Granted, most of it was defense, but is he is the head coach. So I generally agree with you like nobody does it on their own in life and you don't want to suppo unless you have a defense and you don't win consistently unless you have a great coaching staff and you're not a great coach unless you have great management and leadership up top because you can't do it without the proper players and management of the salary cap. All of it does in fact work together. Okay. So you know, it's funny about John was saying about Jon Gruden and I said before the season, I'm like, yeah, this is just doesn't ten years out of Silicon Valley, ten years out of the NFL does or fluid businesses. You can leave the post office for ten years. Come back. It's the post office. So I look at Gruden. They got blasted this weekend. I look at their upcoming schedule. Gruden said yesterday, he's kind of depressed. Now they go to London there sort of unraveling. Could I make this argument? John chase money, the NFL's got to see him money. Don't chase it. Chase, stability writers are stable. It was a bad gig. No, they weren't stable. That's why they had to give him ten years. He had a lifetime appointment at ESPN and that's why they had to give him more length more money. And I do. I do think it stabilizes it do. I think it happened as quickly as he would would have thought, of course, not give course. I thought he thought he would have won a game. They should have won the Miami game. If Derek card isn't throw, the ball doesn't lob it up in the end zone where it can be intercepted band, who's terrible throw him. I think he's a little bit disappointed. I think he thinks their cars a little bit better than he's actually been look. There's a talent mismatch when they played the Rams when they played the chart. Yes, clay, those teams have better town. Other games, you know, Cleveland, they won. They should have one in Miami. The other games were fifty fifty games, but look it. Dan Reeves left. Went to NASCAR came back and he the game had passed him by, but he caught up John Gruener catch-up. Eventually they're playing the long game there. I think the two first round picks got food Cleal MAC, hopefully they use those. They'll have a bunch of salary cap room in the. In the coming year and in in in the following year, after that, they're putting themselves in position to be successful in the long term. I think he's disappointed at how slowest started spin and how brutal this league is, and maybe Derek Carr isn't who he thought he was did play eight rookies this weekend. They're not. They're not defensively, they're not good. They don't have players know, but he's, he's also kinda gotta figure it out and it takes a while. Now, look at takes Bill Belichick four games to figure it out and Bill Bella checks been doing it successfully for twenty years in New England how long's it gonna take Jon Gruden who hasn't been in Oakland with exception of the last six, seven months. That's good stuff. Don't go anywhere. We got a lot. We have a ton of stuff to talk about. LeBron talked about Lonzo the UFC mass. The Philadelphia Eagles fell in love with themselves and like the Seahawks their unraveling. Doug Gottlieb don't go anywhere coming back, drew Brees top of the hour as well, be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon, eastern nine AM Pacific on Fox Sports. Radio f s one and the iheartradio app borrow up to forty grand, a pay off high interest. Debt or credit cards, lending club dot com. Slash sports lending club, lending club dot com. Slash sports, Doug Gottlieb. Joining me a lot of issues to get to let let let's touch on. One more thing is drew Brees coming on top of the hour. What am I favor players you like him to? But you pointed out the Peyton thing, you pointed out the Sean Payton thing that dome thing was an advantage. Here's something about drew Brees you're going to mention that doesn't get mentioned enough drew Brees didn't just help himself last night. No, if not for drew Brees is a Russell Wilson and if not for Russell Wilson, is there a Baker Mayfield and then if you look in college football mean to divide logo who's at Alabama, he may be listed six one, six feet, maybe even five eleven, right? You know, Missouri's got a town to talented quarterback. He likes five, eleven sixty both get drafted high. I don't know how high they'll think to it will be drafted probably earlier, but the idea that you couldn't be a six foot quarterback and succeed. He's obviously proved that to be a, you know, a false statement. And this is we talked about Steve Nash if not for Steve Nash. Is there a Steph curry, if not for Steph, curry, trae young doesn't go in the top five. Right. And how many other diminutive? Thin, offensive minded point guards. Are there out there that are hoping that trae young, you know, becomes an all star if he does that helps their draft socks. So he is he is. He is a game changer. What Doug Flutie couldn't accomplish. Consistently drew Brees has been able to -ccomplish at his size. Let's talk about. You know, the Philadelphia Eagles. And I said, once they started partying after the Super Bowl, I said, they're becoming my Seahawks historically frustrating franchise. They get a great quarterback and they go from interesting to while they're great. The league falls in love with them. And then they party like Rockstars. They get loud to get political. You get magazine articles talking every which way and book deals. And then it's like whenever you host a really big party, somebody's gotta clean it up in the morning, and I look at Philadelphia, and then like there's a tiger in the bathroom, wasn't hangover. Look at Bill AB trying. There's some of that Philadelphia's. They party like there was no tomorrow and they woke up this morning and it. They lost coordinator at the same ti-, yes, you lose coordinators, you lose quarterback coaches, you lose that edge, right? You lose the edge heavy is the head that wears the crown. That's that's the Shakespearean expression. And and the point when you were out and I sat in for you, join, I discussed, it's different for everybody else. You're everybody else's biggest game. Yeah. You know, Joe buck and Troy Aikman and Erin Andrews, are they called the game this Sunday. You're everybody our TV's biggest game. You're the Vikings just came in and the Vikings has been beaten at home on the bills are all banged up injury. They don't have Delvin cook and they came came in and we'll you. Yeah, and they exposed it, but I do. Here's what fell Philadelphia benefits from. I think some of this will create some of that us against the world. Oh, you're doubting us again and their division stinks. It's terribly remiss. Giants are a mess, and we saw it to Washington Redskins Redskins last night. They not only had a BI week. They had a bye week plus Monday night football. Yes. You could not have had. They have a veteran coach veteran quarterback, and that that was what Washington right now leads that division. So to your point Philadelphia's gonna I want to sell my Philadelphia stuck a lot like New England early in the year, right? New England gets the gets the field mopped with them by the Jacksonville, Jaguars. But then I'm like, wait, there's two rookies starting at quarterback for the bills and for the jets, they'll be fine. Look at the NFC week, five, I said to you, it's the NFC least your 401K. You have to put them money on one team eagles eagles. Not even close defensive line is still nasty and goes to line still good. Can be good. Yeah, it hasn't been good. They've chosen not to block people at times, but they still have Carson Wentz. They still have an outstanding play color, and the defensive line is nasty at one them that Lanigan. Okay. Two topics. Number one, Lonzo and LeBron LeBron comes out yesterday said you're ready to be the king. And I've been saying this is that we got to slow down banging on all these young college people. So when Lonzo broke into the league. I year he didn't look physically like an NBA player, right? Looked like a buffed high schooler or a skinny collegian and he comes into the league and by the way, all these young guys are getting hurt. Markelle Foltz Lonzo ball, Joel Embiid Okafor you can go up. You can go Ben Simmons Mr. year because of an injury. You go from thirty five games to eighty two. And actually at the NBA level, everybody hits shots, get the guard people. It's hard. Lonzo fell apart, Brennan Ingram's still falling apart. Like I think I do. I don't know if LeBron Lonzo will converge beautifully. I'm not sure how it works because they both need the ball, but aren't we being a little harsh on Lonzo do complain, right. Yes, I think he can play. He's going to have to earn his starting spot, but he actually benefits. He plays fairly well without the basketball to your point. You'd never lifted weights. He never played pick and roll bass, but he never play real basketball. They actually had to teach him unlike so many other young players to stop passing the ball, so much stuff just forward passing the ball and getting hot potato in the bowl, like dude takeover early and late. This is your time. So he had kind of relearn. What rewire himself. I think he'll be demonstrably better. Now, the one thing that I would caution people about is he didn't play a lot of basketball this summer because the knee, his body is thicker. It's helped his shot. He hasn't really changed his shot. It's just stronger because the rest of his body is stronger, but there's going to be some kinks to work through because he unlike his teammates hadn't played this summer because the knee injury, but look Donovan Mitchell better. Yes. Last year, of course, even Qiao Kuzbass rookie but Calcutta his in his early twenties, twenty years. It used to be. You played three years of college. Basketball Christian Leitner people say is a bust the average nineteen points for a couple of years guys use to be Twenty-three coming into the league there twenty. Well, I think what happens is Donna Mitchell had a better workout and was a better player than Lonzo is. And Lonzo probably never becomes the player that Donovan Mitchell as and when you're outshone by another rookie and maybe two other rookies just heart might be a better player. May they've found a diamond in the rough and Josh art. They love him. He is untradable. For the Lakers. So I think some of that takes away from him. But at the end of the day, if you can get a starting point guard, granted, he's probably overdrafted because he's from Los Angeles and because his name, you can get a starting point guard to go along with all the rest of with Brandon Ingram who still young and still developing. I think they'll be fine. I think eventually he'll earn his starting spot and I do think you'll see a dramatic improvement from your one year. Two. Okay. F UFC. What a shock crazy people acted crazy. I think you have to be wired differently to be the navy seal or a UFC fighter. If you took drew Brees who plays in a relic regulated violent sport and said, hey, drew. Would you ever fight in the UFC drew? Brees of my crazy. These are crazy people and they acted crazy. Okay. I went to Oklahoma state which is home of the wrestling hall of fame, the real wrestling elephant wrestling. Okay. And real wrestlers. Listen, three things will survive the nuclear holocaust twinkies cockroaches. And I mean that in completely respectful God, there, they are the toughest human beings on on walking the earth that are professional athletes and, but that's the fault of Dana. That's the fall today. No, Dana white. Okay. Like Dana white like basically left along trail and lift a bunch of matches around and then eventually one gets lit, and this is the problem with you. It is at its core. It is an incredible split. Got shrine. I can't turn it off. You can't hide. You can't hang on the ropes. Right? All you can do is tap out or get knocked out or get carried out, right? Yeah, but but like corporate sponsors at the highest level, they don't want dudes jumping in the crowd and Malay obviously, and and even though we laugh at, I think it was Derek Lewis postmatch interview, which was incredible is funny, but it was inappropriate completely inappropriate and and like me enjoy can't talk. But somebody's religion, their race and their country McGregor did and expect no. Reaction and McGregor just did it for attention in Dana was just go ahead, that's that's him being him McGregor. Just trying to sell whiskey. Daynuss just trying to sell pay per view buys. Meanwhile sitting there going like, no dude, you're talking about my country, my family, my religion, of course, he's going to go crazy was the expected we actually, I talked to joy about this only a minute and a half left. Is that the reason this is the only sport in my lifetime that didn't exist in the eighties and is now flourishing. Now, in two thousand eighteen is there was a slot and they're like, it's almost like if you have, you know, that's how Fox News was created. You know, there's not a strong right wing approach the news and Roger Ailes goes Rupert. Murdoch says, well, why can't we just go and take that slot by the way that you can have newspaper go far, right? Yes, he filled a slot in America. No question, No question, but it also feels the lowest common denominator and looking at some of the fans react to it. Look, I, I like it. I've seen it in person. It's an incredible split. I like one of the reasons succeeded was Dana 's leadership, but. Dana, sometimes just like, hey, it's on autopilot. Now I've cashed in. I'm not. I'm not responsible for this. This is not my fault. This is crazy. People acting crazy if you want to not go the boxing route where people think you're a joke, then you have to, you have to have command and control. He lost control of something. He basically lit a house fire and then walked away and said, I can't believe nobody put this thing out. Interesting. You're more on joyous side here. I am just support Dane and the UFC I love you have see, you just can't have people climbing in the stands crazy Pete. What do you know what? What happens? If a billionaire sit in the front row. So I get an elbow in my idol. Right. Good point. Doug Gottlieb. Goodstuff heard hierarchy drew Brees next in LA heard our number two. This is the heard wherever you may be. However, you may be listening live in Los Angeles iheartradio Fox Sports, radio NFS. One drew Brees is going to be calling us here in five minutes. Record-setting NFL quarterback joy. Taylor is joining me last night. My wife and I. We were watching a little bit of this and she's not really a big sports fan and she was asking some questions about drew Brees and I, you know, I was just saying like, he's a guy that overcome a lot of obstacles. A lot of quarterbacks, they go to the big school and they come into the league and dad was an NFL player, drew Brees had none of that and ended up breaking Brett farve and Peyton Manning's record last night. So he'll join us in five minutes. Speaking of great quarterbacks of Tom Brady would certainly qualify for that. He was talking about Patrick Mahomes and they play each other this week, the patriots play the Kansas City Chiefs. And you know he was on a Boston radio station w. e. Brady and he was talking about it wasn't a shot at Mahomes to me, but he was talking about how the game now has changed for young quarterbacks. You know, I think football is was different than you know, I think now, I think in some ways it's pro football's more glorified college football, I think at some ways that maybe a the transition that more similar game than what it used to be. You know, when I first started, so it's much football now is removing some of the physical elements of the game. It's just it's more of a space game, and you know, you see a lot of kind of college plays, you know, more in the pro game now than than what I remember when I started. So you know, that's just kinda how things have win over the last years. There's no, by the way completion percentage is what drew Brees is completing what seventy eight percent of his throws. I do think the game is easier if you're a really talented quarterback today than it was fifteen years ago. I don't think that's a shot, but I, but I think what the NFL's done brilliantly and they've done this my entire life there, the great borrowers. They're not stealing everybody else's ideas. They're borrowing them and making them their own. They borrowed from the XFL a lot of the camera angles. You see XFL. L. they've borrowed plays and coaches from the CF l. Canadian football. They've borrowed concepts from arena football. Now they're borrowing concepts from college. Football, people worry so much about being original. Everything's copied and there's, there's like basically in music, there's only so many riffs. They say that every sitcom ever created has three basic themes. All net flicks is, is a bigger broader international version of HBO. All is, is a different form of taxis. If you look at the number one movie in America right now, a star is born. It's third remake if you're sitting around worrying about, oh my God, this is my original content. Nothing's original thing is new. Nothing is new. It's taking concepts borrowing them and making them your own. I was at the NFL even borrows things from the NBA. Now this is absolutely true. I think when you watch, I watched the baseball playoffs last night on one TV in the NFL and the other in baseball. I'm waiting for some. Thing to happen in football. I don't have to wait anymore. They got rid of huddles by the way. Couple years ago. The NBA loosened up the celebrations and that to me was borrowing from the NBA. 'cause if a guy dunks in the NBA Steph curry shimmy and it's okay. It's part of the celebration at ends up on the internet. It's free publicity on Twitter and Facebook and the NFL's like, you know what? NBA's crushing it in social media. What if we let our players celebrate what's happened? You go to on a Sunday, you watch Twitter in the celebrations are on as much as the touchdown miraculously. It did not kill the game. They let them by myself, do not like celebrations. I'm not a celebration person. John, you know this, I literally wake up, I go chop wood. I do sit ups, not a big celebration person. You read the newspaper with your prune juice. But NFL ratings are up. Okay. Almost nothing on linear TV is up and they're up because they've just borrowed a bunch of ideas and I love the current. I love it. I love the current NFL. I mean, I watched the Chicago Bears. That's a sixty forty college offense. I watched the LA Rams that feels like a sixty forty college offense. So I don't. I don't have any problem with it at all. I think it's great. I think they're the great borrowers. I don't think Tom Brady was banging on anybody. Listen. If you look at the completion percentages in the NFL right now, it's like seven on seven passing drills drew Brees almost eighty percent. I mean, Cam Newton is not a precision quarterback. He's in the mid sixties. Joe Nemeth finished at fifty percent. Joe Nemeth. Let goal of football coin flip completed or not. Completed drew Brees let's go over football. Eight of ten times somebody will catch it. Now, some of that's drew Brees. Some of that is new football. We. Have, which I think is absolutely absolutely. Without question. Yeah, here the highest completion percentages. I never gonna time in my life. There's like seven guys in the seventies. I always said to me, I always said you gotta get to sixty two percent. Now when I look at football, I'm like, you kinda gotta get to sixty six percent. You got to be sixty five or sixty six percent. And I was always like when Tim tebow was winning games. I'm like, this is not sustainable. He's completing forty, seven percent. That's just not sustainable. And I've been critical a Cam Newton through the years. I'm like fifty eight percent. He li- manning without OB Jay is fifty eight percent. That's not sustainable. You get into a point now where I'm not sure if it's sustainable to be like sixty sixty one. I mean deck Prescott twenty eight in the NFL and by the way John look it up. I think he's like sixty four. He's he's not. I mean Dak Prescott sixty two percent. That's twenty eight in the league and the knock on him from Troy Aikman this morning on Dallas. Radio doesn't not good enough. So there you go. Drew Brees gonna call us here in a minute. I've been told by the way. Here's the other thing I saw last night. I'm going to do hurt hierarchy, but I'm going to try to make it. I'm gonna try to make it post drew Brees because it takes about seven, eight minutes. Here's the other thing I was watching last night when drew was tearing up Washington. The other thing I was watching was Washington is critical as I have been about the Philadelphia Eagles. You can't sell that stock Washington had a week off and a day they had. They had a bye week, right? So they veteran quarterback veteran coach. This should have been a ver, very, very good performance by Washington. I know it's tough to win there. That was awful. The NFC east is an absolute mess. Think about this, the five, lowest scoring teams in the NFC. Nothing about this Arizona's. Number one. Two, three, four, five are NFC teams. It's just a mess. Now, the good news is Dallas is limited. New York's limited and Washington's limited. Philadelphia is not limited Philadelphia's injured Philadelphia's trying to get their act together because they lost coordinators. But when I watched Washington last night and I watched the giants this weekend and I watched the Cowboys icy limited. I don't think Philadelphia's limited. I just don't think they can get the ship right yet, but I think they have Carson Wentz. They have a great defensive line. They have good offensive personnel there. They've got some good running backs. They're all beat up, but I'm watching that last night and if you're Washington and you're looking at that, there are games in the NFL that leave a Mark and you're like, that's not. That's not great that that that's just not great. That was one of those for Washington that wasn't a singular loss that spoke volumes veteran quarterback extra time off veteran NFL coach and not competitive, and it should be noted New Orleans. Is gonna win a lot of games this year, but that defense you can take advantage of that defense gives up yards and they didn't last night. All right. Heard hierarchy. I I'm guessing drew Brees hoping drew Brees efforting drew Brees is somewhere around the corner, be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon, eastern nine AM Pacific. The National League championship series is now set Friday. It's game one of the NFC SS, Manny? Machado playing Kershaw and the dodgers take on MVP candidate Christian yelich in the brewers coverage begins at seven eastern on us one and the FOX sport. Fourteen of the dodgers twenty runs came by homerun nine guys with more than twenty home runs this year. So they are stacked well drew Brees of the many accomplishments. I said this a couple of hours ago, then my lifetime, there's never been a quarterback who is overcome as many obstacles as drew Brees. He's not six five. He tore up his knee in high school. He went to a kind of a historically running conference, cold weather, basketball school Purdue. Then he plays in San Diego gets hurt, and then Miami won't clear him. Then he goes to New Orleans and Katrina, and Sean Payton. One point has to leave for a season obstacle obstacle obstacle obstacle. And you look up and he's breaking Brett farve and Peyton Manning's wreck. Cards. That's why I've said I call him one of the great eight. One of the great eight players that ever played that position that I've ever seen in my life impossible not to root for Andrew has been kind enough to spend a few minutes with us today drew, how are you? Thanks for joining us going. Great. Colin, how are you? Great. You know what I thought was, and it really speaks to you instead of last night coming out and say, and I wanted to prove people wrong. You came out and said, this record proved so many people. Right? And I thought that was a remarkable thing to say because it'd be very easy to go the other way and you wanted to talk about breaks and support. Go back, go back. If I said NFL your first big break, what was it. Well, you know, honestly being what I learned through the draft process very quickly was that it was more important to end up in the right place in the right situation with the right team, the right system, the right coaching staff as opposed to just getting drafted as high as you possibly can. I mean, I think I think that's a lot of a lot of guys coming out that is they're, they're in and their goal is drafted as high as they possibly can. And you at the end of the day is about being in the right situation. I felt like being drafted to the San Diego Chargers in the second round was the best place for me because I had the chance to be an understudy Doug Flutie who was my, you know, one of my childhood role models guy that I looked up to and undersized guy who's just hot. So the overpaying overcame the odds and being around guys like junior, stay Allen. Rodney Harrison other great leaders there in San Diego around the coach, like Marty Schottenheimer. I just felt like that that help me build a foundation by which you is still my NFL career. You know, and then you end up with Sean Payton who like Sean McVeigh. None of us knew Sean Payton was we didn't know who Sean McVeigh was. When did you realize Sean Payton? Wow. This could be the perfect coach for me. You know it. I mean, I remember forever the first time showing called me. I was always literally in a RV's drive-thru in Birmingham, Alabama. I was there rehabbing. I just had my surgery with us for Dame's Andrews two months post op, you know, could barely lift more still above my both my shoulder and here's this coach calling me, you know, fresh from the Cowboys organization getting the job and door liens. I mean, I don't think he knew exactly what he was taking on at the time. And yet he was, he was telling me that I was his guy and, and you know, listen, my my confidence hit. You know after that injury just because I. As much as I felt like they had a plan and I was gonna come back stronger and he listed there. I had my doubts that was that was a very balancing time for me. You know, when I was told, hey, eight months until you're able to throw and then two years, we really feel normal again. I mean, that was that was overwhelming yet. Here's a guy looking at nine and saying, you're my guy, you know, you're gonna leave this organization. What's amazing about you is you literally if when I think Orleans is the perfect place for you, the offense, your offense is progressive and smart and crazy, and fun and New Orleans, mardi gras crazy and fun and people have doubted New Orleans. Could they come back I there is this link between you in the city in which you play. And I think that's a hundred years from now. I mean, do you ever think about that? That in a in a weird way, New Orleans, the city was perfect for you. There's no question. There's no question. God had a plan. I felt like it was a call to come to New Orleans. We need to know as much as you could say. Maybe New Orleans needed somebody to believe in them too. And so he was just, it was the perfect fit. It was the perfect match in a way we were both trying to rebuild right rebuild our lives or career. There was so many unknowns, and yet I just felt like we were, we were all leaning on each other and the the most amazing thing. I think my wife and I experienced when we came on our recruiting visits, so to speak in New Orleans was that every person that we met really didn't say anything about football, what they said was thank you for wanting to be a part of this community and considering New Orleans. And I think you realize the New Orleans is a special place if you place your so many people who live here have lived here for generations and generations. So it's just it's in their plot. You know, there's a spirit here. There's a culture here. It's unlike any. Other. One of the challenges you face now as a father, a husband, thirty nine years old. You are now surrounded often by twenty two year olds. There is an age gap and it doesn't matter if you're a CEO or a high school principal. You have to bridge that gap. You have to relate to young players who are often backs receivers and offensive linemen. How have you done it? Because when I watch you you are, I mean, you're, you're going to be a forty year old guy. You're surrounded by kids and they look up to you and they listen to you and I don't think that's easy and you have bridged it. Do you think about that. Yeah, it is. It is unique because I definitely feel like, you know, I I tell them from a different generation. You know? I mean most cases doesn't allow for over twenty two twenty three twenty four. You know, some fifteen sixteen seventeen years older than a lot of these guys. You know, I I I like to think that being around him refusing ace me. It keeps me young. You know, I feel a great sense of responsibility. You know each and every year to come in and take the new, you know, draft class or young free agent. They come in and and your China starting from scratch opportunity to build up the offense. The identity if your team in and I feel like I learned as much from them is, is I hope they learn from being, you know, I don't know. I mean, I think having having three young boys too. I mean, as I'm talking to you, I've in the world pool at the things with my boys. One of them fake it right now jumping in the world full and they're just like, I mean, they keep me too. They keep me up up to speed on like the the latest, four night, dances and all that other stuff too. So I, I feel like I'm pretty hip to the game, you know, even old guy now, but not listen, I, I love the locker room. I love around the guy. I mean, I, I know that a lot of guys who have left the game most recently retired guys, but I don't want to dispense with they say, man. The thing I miss the most is the locker room getting around the guys and the game day. Those are the things you really can't replace. You know, once you be the game. And so I'm just trying to enjoy the moment. Enjoy every second of it. Well, we've enjoyed every second of you drew Brees ten minutes on a busy day. Enjoy your family. Thanks for joining our show by. I scout drew Brees. He's great. Joy Taylor over the news. Bill. This is the third line news kids running around the facility is the best that's got to be like the coolest moment for for a player like brother used to bring his sons into the locker room. It's like it's like the best feeling to have them around. You know, what is it? You do? All right. So the chiefs are off to another five enough start. I'm very excited for this matchup with the patriots Lincoln's the game of the week, Tom Brady decided to sprinkle extra sauce on it for everyone appreciate that. Tom, she content well, Travis. Kelsey says, this year's fast start feels different for the chiefs than in recent years, and it's do their confidence and accountability. So I think has a lot to do with years, pass guys, feeling feeling sick of you kind of ups and downs roller coasters being able to to take what happened last year in and fix it and sure enough. I mean, the finishing the games and finishing weakened weak out fishing practices. Overall, the finish mindset has been huge. You know, I heard that a lot this weekend to the Rams. I don't think it's any coincidence that those two teams are on top of the league right now. A lot of talk about transparency and accountability in a little bit of what you were looting to with Odell yesterday, just having open conversations about what's actually happening with the team. I feel like that changes things because you you are accountable within each other. The other thing is we have to remember joy. September is really a fun month for offensive players. The Kansas City's ultimately going to be defined by stopping people. Sure. Okay. So now the weather gets crappy and now you're gonna turn the ball over. And now you know the receiver slip on the routes and the ball comes out of your hand is that ultimately September is really built for the most athletically gifted offense of teams. Now, from about two weeks from now, Kansas City is going. I can't wait to see this about New England. Can you get New England off the field? Because my gut feeling is New England is going to chip away at them four and a half yards at a time and Patrick Mahomes going to be sitting on that sideline sitting there not getting the ball. Sure. I mean. The truth has what you are is at versity not when things are great, right? So this weekend for the Rams going against the Seahawks in at not being the breathe blow out that we thought it was going to be like those kind of situations are really what tests you the team. But I, I think what he's alluding to is there's a feeling of optimism now whereas before it's like, all right, we're starting to fall apart. That's kind of what we do a change in mindset. So the eagles and Fleischer cloth Cox agreed to a restricted contract that frees up six point five million dollars in cap spaces season and eleven point seven million more next season. So where equal up to well, Lebanon bell pointing to Adam Schefter. That is not the case. They're not trying to get Levy on bowel, but with JJ season ending, ACL Andrea on Sunday. It's hard to imagine that the eagles aren't trying to utilize this new cap space for something, so I still can't figure out why this New York Jets don't make a run at it. I mean, it's it's entirely possible that this deal. Are also not trying to trade him. You have to entertain any trade offers on your way. James Connor is getting plenty of yards nearly six hundred yards. You have to entertain trade offers. But at the end of the, I think they're probably just trying to stick with it because they don't know what they're trading for. Are you trading the price of a rental or the price on bell for the next four years? Will you wouldn't trade for him if you weren't going to pay him right? But there you can't sign him so he could then you could trade a first round pick for them and then he signed somewhere else and you wasted a first round pick for half a season. Oblivion battle for whoever is going to make the trade more than it is for the Steelers that I, in my opinion, the Steelers are probably trying to hold onto him for whenever they get into the postseason James Connors been doing a nice job, but Levy on bells Levy on bell. So all this trade talk may just be, you know, smoke and mirrors. Finally Steph Currys. The warriors should not be afraid to discuss the notion of winning their third consecutive NBA title the season. And really, that should come as a spice, no one because he believes three peat is very much attainable for Golden State. He said, we talk about the three peat just because it's in front of us, we understand that winning a championship is attainable. If we take care of business and doing it, three years in a row is tremendous opportunity for us that we should not be afraid to talk about and go after I was gonna freak out because he said three peat championship, and I don't know what what else are their expectations supposed to be when you're supposed to be confident? I don't have a problem with it, their favorites, and they should be favor. They're the best group of players easily in the league, the best roster easily that he's being conceited or or anything like that. Like the the goal is to win championships. That should be everyone's goal going into the season, golden. Your organization needs to back up and fix your mentality goes to win a ring. They've been winning rings and then they won last two rings and they're trying to win another one. That's just the way that it goes. Everyone gets like super crazy when people talk about winning a championship before the season starts. But I do think it's going to be different for Golden State this year. Whereas last year during the regular season, they kind of coast it a little bit and it got a little boring. I feel like at least they should go into the season with a little more sense of urgency during the regular smoked multiple times by over. Twenty points last year. I think it's really hard. I think it's a star driven league and basketball's different when you step on the floor at the YMCA you know, who's got better players. It's not like the NFL where there's a lot of injuries during a year or hockey you're goalie gets hot fastballs weird sport. Like if I got better players than you, I can beat you all day and I can beat you next year and I can be your next year. They have the best players and they know it every game. They step on the floor. So the battle isn't physically the battle is psychological like how ramped up they've won Johnny know exactly what it takes to do that in the postseason joy title with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by heard, lie. David and Joe, Cleveland Brown tight end will be joining us before the end of the hour drew Brees just stop by love having that. Well, we do it every Tuesday at this time because drew Brees set a bunch of records. We pushed it off for thirty minutes, but let's do it on Tuesday. Let's do our heard hierarchy. Herd hierarchy does the top ten NFL teams according to college? Number ten. I like the Chicago Bears didn't play, but they are number one in the NFL in sacks best pass rusher in the NFL. They lead the NFC and takeaways. They have the best rushing defense. And I think Mitch Trubisky is limited, but Matt Nagy is a very clever offense. Coach there about sixty percent college forty percent pro, and I hope the bears remain in the top ten all year. I think it's a really, really interesting team and they they have what Chicago's o. has been led by their defense, find a great bears team. It always feels like it's led by its defense. So they're playing to brand, but I have the bears at number ten number nine on Minnesota, same division. Listen, Kirk, cousins is fine. I mean, he's, he's not, you know, in a top seven, eight in the NFL, but he's third in the NFL in passing. They have tremendous wide receiver threats. And by the way, here's the thing about Minnesota. There. Defense isn't great, but it's not bad on third down. Listen, everybody scoring in this league. I kind of look at your third down defense. Can you situationally get the opposing offense off the field Minnesota's not terrible at that. They're not. And so I have the Vikings with a very electric past offense, a good home field advantage, the best roster and their division, and they get you off the feel pretty well on third down his number nine number eight, Carolina Panthers. Listen, it's long when cams winning. It's because he has a very dynamic running game in Carolina leads the NFL in rushing and that. But I also think this isn't he's completed over sixty percent of his passes. He didn't play brilliantly for all of the New York Giants game, but he did make some big froze. This team is different in there a little bit like Chicago, they're going to do it with their front seven defensively, they're going to run the football more than other teams. They're not going to be as they're not going to be as dynamic on the perimeter outside. Thank Christian McCaffrey leaves them in receptions that tells you all you need to know, but they're definitely a top ten team. I have Carolina at number eight number seven. I still think Pittsburgh's loaded and again, Pittsburgh's got problems defensively, but here's what they do. They get to the quarterback. So my theory on the NFL if they're the opposite of New England New England's grade on the back end of their defense Pittsburgh's great upfront, they're not good in the back in. And if you told me I had a choice between the two, I'd rather have a great pass, rush and figure out the secondary later. By the way James, the Steelers scored thirty plus points and three, their last four games and James Connors got almost six hundred scrimmage yards. So they're not a great team, but I thought they were super impressive against Atlanta. They are growing and I have them at number seven. Number six. I still like the ravens a lot. I wish Joe flacco at six five would have fewer balls batted down at the line of scrimmage. I can't figure that out, but they bring in Lamar Jackson. Now that works. They leave the NFL in scoring defense, and they also lead the NFL in third down. On defense. And again, I think this team's going to be better by thanksgiving. They got to rookie tight, ends three new wide receivers. They had many opportunities to win that game and they didn't, but I'm not selling all my stock on Baltimore. I still think they're the best team in that division. Best defense in that division, best scoring defense in the NFL best. Third down defense in the NFL with a veteran quarterback in a veteran head coach number five, LA chargers day just through the raiders around for three and a half hours. By the way, they're only losses are the five zero chiefs in the five zero Rams and they were in both those games. So Philip rivers has had six consecutive games with multiple touchdown passes dating back to last season. That's the NFL's longest streak. And if you watch the raider game again, that defense shut down the raiders and the raiders have all sorts of offense of elements and they shut them down. They may be the second team in l. a. but the chargers personnel front to back is really, really good. Number four, New England to quarterback coach league. They've scored thirty eight points in each of their last two games. Again, they don't have a pass rush, and I don't know if you can generate one, I think you can get their secondary's great. The strength of our team. Brady gronk element, Chris, HOGAN Sony, Michelle, that rookie running back James white. Their strengthen their offense is they've got a lot of officiant, offensive players, not a lot of dynamic guys, but a lot of fishing guy that can picked up yards. Lot of first downs, a lot of time of possession defensively, no pass rush, but they're tremendous a corner great at safety. And ain't they have the best coach and quarterback in the NFL. So I haven't four number three. I think the saints remind me a lot of the patriots with it with a better offense of line. Nobody in the NFL's allowed fewer sacks. They're going to better offense have line in New England, and they do have a dynamic wide receiver on the outside. But I look at this team and I think smart officiant they can five yard you to death. You can't get to their quarterback. They don't turn it over much very good home field advantage. I mean that was embarrassing for Washington last night that wasn't competitive, and that was Alex Smith and a veteran coach with a coming off a bye. Week, I got New Orleans at three number to Kansas City. By the way, even Vegas admits that turnovers a random except for New England and Kansas City. Andy reach teams don't turn the ball over only three turnovers. Once again, Kansas City fewest turnovers in the NFL. Now they're laughed and totally fence, and that's a huge problem. They started last year five another five or no, I think against New England. I think the way you look at Kansas City is just five yard death, death by a thousand cuts. I think the defense is going to catch up to them. They've got to get better, especially in the back end too many explosion plays. They give up, but I have Kansas City to number one. The Rams isn't going to Seattle losing to your receivers, instill went in that game. I still think this is a great football team. Now it's a salary cap era. They're not perfect. They don't have a great pass, rush in Dhamma consumer, Aaron, Donald are monsters on the interior, but they don't have a great pass, rush and. It safety back and go over the top a little bit on them. I don't think their linebacking core is perfect, but if you're talking, you know, coaching coordinating all line interior d. line corners, receivers, superstar back. You know, it's funny for all the points. They still feel like a power offense to me with Todd Gurley. I have the Rams at number one Browns tight end David and Joe Khoo going to be joining us by the way you guys think. I don't like Baker Mayfield. How come I always talk about the Cleveland Browns, how come I'm having another Cleveland Brown on it. All like Baker Mayfield that's coming up neck wanna think drew Brees for stopping by our show today as always he was total class. Impossible not to root for drew Brees at the all time record last night. And by the way you could make an argument if not for the drew Brees a six foot quarterback. Maybe people don't draft a Toronto, tailor a Baker Mayfield a Russell Wilson. That he is opened the door for quarterbacks that aren't six four, and they're not as big as Terry Bradshaw and they're not as tall as Drew Bledsoe. And there's a kid in Cleveland right now. Baker Mayfield a few years ago, maybe you don't look at Baker Mayfield and make him a number one pick, but drew Brees has opened the door for guys that don't have cannon arm that aren't six five, and it just it makes me happy because drew is total class. And with that, be the coward global satellite network. David and Joe Coon second year tight end for the Cleveland Browns. I bring up Baker Mayfield. It should be noted second year in Cleveland since Baker Mayfield arrived. Your targets have gone up. So there's something working here with you and Baker Mayfield am my right here somethings working. We're trying, you know, we're, we're working really hard in practice every week and I, it's gonna show doing games, bakers, different. He's he's a talker. He is fun. He's on social media. When when Cleveland drafted him, what did you think you were getting? And is he the same thing you got? Is he kind of what you thought you'd get. Yeah. When we picked him up, I was really excited. You know, he, he, it's clear that he has that attitude, you know and he backs it up with his game play in practice and in games. Obviously, you see him playing very well and we're really excited seeing progress. Was your? Was it very early in practice? Was there a practice at camp? Was there a moment in OTA's? When was the moment? David, you knew with Baker Mayfield. Oh, this dude comply. Honestly, the moment I knew he could play was when he put I, I don't know who they played in in college, but he put a flag in in the middle of the field. And I saw that and that's when I realized I was like, okay, we have bother bother here for sure. Baker's again, a guy that you guys have been wildly close games, your games have been inside by zero, three, four, three, and three points. And so you're in these crazy competitive games even though you haven't won all of them. What is it like to be in a series of close NFL games. Do you think in a weird way it's helped you. I mean, hopefully in the future we don't. We don't have to make that close, you know. So where it's, you know, three points or two points or whatever. But one thing I've noticed about this team is that you know, we, we don't quit, you know, like I as as a, we've all seen the past two games. You know, literally went down to the last play the game, and you see the offense defense and special teams fighting like crazy. And I'm really happy to be a part of this team, and I'm really excited to see this up progress this year. How many times does Baker audible at the line? I mean, the obviously likes you allot. He's watching you in Jarvis Landry. A lot of the offense comes from the sideline. Are there times bakers in a huddle bakers at the line? He's looking at you, David, and you kind of feel like this may be a little off script is the offense feel completely designed or their times with Baker. He's kind of ad lib. Doing his thing. No, actually I it. It seems pretty pretty pretty organized. You know, the coaches tied my my tight ends coach and and I quarterbacks coach, they, they do a tremendous job of getting us the information that we need to play every week. And so I I to me, it seems everything's pretty organized. You guys run hard knocks. I, I'm not a huge fan of hard knocks. I wouldn't want cameras around me all day because I think if I had cameras around me, I would act. I wouldn't be natural. I, you know, I mean, making sure I don't look like a goofball when you guys had hard knocks on. Were you at concerned at all that, oh, good. Lord, we, we just came off no one sixteen season. We've got a camera crew. Did that worry you at all? No, it was just another outside distraction that you have to, you know, just put away you got, you got the focus on, you know camp that what was that hand? And I think we had a great camp and now it's time, so just win some games by the way, Todd Haley is known is a pretty tough coach. It didn't have Todd Haley. Last year you have Todd Haley this year, take some time. Tell me about Todd Haley because when I watched hard knocks, he's tough. He's loud, he's intense. What's he like? He's exactly what you mentioned. You know, he's a tough coach, but at the same time, he's a great coach. You know, the way the way he coaches us, I believe it helps us because you know, it puts your your your back against the wall and you other, you know, make a play, you don't. So for me, I, I definitely an enjoy that that way of coaching. And I mean, I think Todd to character, I believe at that he's definitely a character, but but a great coach Fisher, does he ever have to scream at a young guy like you, is he ever screamed at you? Come on in joke, who get it together course, of course of coming, come on. I to spend practice practices, hot, you know things ongoing way. He's he's, he's gonna, you know, start getting a little loud. But at the same time it's football and I, it all comes with it. Well, I think I think the offense Hannah's at will. Listen. I know Baker doesn't like me, but you could say, hi for me, I am actually. I think you're going to beat the chargers this weekend. I think this is an interesting team with a lot of dudes and baker's playing really well and your fun to watch, and you've been in five straight nail biters and good luck to you. David, thanks for coming on the show. You've got a by the way the the other team now don't the raiders this weekend who just beat them a couple of weeks ago. They go to London. The raiders are going to London the take on Seattle this weekend. So you know, it's Doug Gottlieb came on and talked about Jon Gruden and I didn't. I didn't love. I didn't love Jon Gruden. I wouldn't have hired him just because he's been out of the game too long. I saw it with Joe Gibbs. Here's the funny thing about Jon Gruden and I think this is fascinating about the raiders now I look real smart today because I said it won't work and they try to Khalil Mack and he's getting crushed. And yesterday, listen to this gruden's like talking about how depressed he is. Here's Jon Gruden. I'm depressed. I'm tired, tired. I want to win. Want to do better. And. We gotta get back to work here. Is there some negative things that are are still resonating with me and raider nation? I'm gonna continue to emphasize the good and do everything I can to fix the things that are bad because most of the things that are bad, my fingerprints are all over. He has become next to Mike Tomlin the best quote in the NFL. But here's the thing. I've said this before lie the NFL's like Wall Street. There's a sea of money. If you're if you're good at your job in the NFL coach assistant coordinator GM you're gonna get rich, you a million dollars or more. So money's never been a problem for Gruden. He made it as a head coach. He made a ton of and he was ESPN's highest paid on air person. Now he signed a ten year, one hundred hundred million dollar deal for the raiders, but I still think this feels like he chose money over stability and in the NFL to me, like drew Brees said this twenty minutes going on show. Everybody's caught up and I want to get the money I want to go. Hi. In the draft. And in the end, it's all about fit and stability. They have the poorest owner in the NFL. They have the worst stadium revenue in the NFL. They're going to be moving in a year or sooner in the NFL. There's instability everywhere. I mean, if there ever seen the Jenga the game, the Jenga game Jan the Django tower. If you did a Jenga tower that teams at the bottom, the stable teams are New England in Baltimore and Green Bay and Denver, and they. And then as you go up to Jenga tree, the tower like the raiders would be at the top of it. The poorest owner the worst revenue. They're going to be moving now for the third, maybe the fourth time in twenty five years. It's weird to me that Jon Gruden the last thing Gruden should've worried about was money because I mean, he was by the way he made a ton in a state with no state tax in a city Tampa. You can buy a mansion for two million dollars. He was loaded. He bestselling book, highest paid coach, highest paid broadcaster, and it feels like ten years. One hundred million dude. He chose in unstable. Able like we're not. He had a, he had like the eagles wanted him Tennessee foot. There were so many jobs that wanted him. We'll look. One hundred million dollars is one hundred million dollars, so I'm not gonna. Pretend like money doesn't have something to do with it because it's one hundred million dollars. But yes, he had a stable situation. Calling football games and he's one he's. He's made the ton of money over his career, but maybe he just wanted to challenge. People do that. Maybe he was in a cycle every day coaching in the NFL's challenge. Why make it harder? I mean, like why did provider people do anything? It's hard hard on them. So you have to do something to yourself the raiders that's offered and you wanted to achieve it didn't before the raiders offer them a five year deals. He take it. No, I don't know. Maybe not a stable enough, the Jenga tower. It's one of those little block of the top. It's get you pulled the best ones that take is going to make it fall shopping for car insurance, seventy five years. They know what they're doing that keep it single simple, Geico dot com. Geico dot com. Seventy five years. They know how to save you money. That's what it's about. Third hour, Gary Myers has a new book. How about them Cowboys? Next one more heard the herd streams. Twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iheartradio app search her to listen live or on demand whenever you like our. Three. This is the heard wherever you may be. However, you may be listening live in Los Angeles iheartradio Fox, Sports, radio and f s one again in Los Angeles. Our number three joy Taylor is joining me drew Brees top by very nice. He was only on a couple of shows picked ours. Always appreciate that total class. Gary Myers is going to be joining us joy in fifteen minutes. He is a longtime, New York sports writer who covers the NFL exclusively. He's got a new book. How about them Cowboys? He goes inside some really interesting stuff on Jerry Jones, and Jason Garrett and Steven Jones, and the relationship and Dak chatter lately about Jason. Gary chatter in Vegas right now. Jason Garrett is the leading coach to be fired in the NFL. Jerry historically has had patients. He gave Barry Switzer a lot of years, Dave Campbell out of years sometimes to the chagrin of cowboy fan. So coming up in fifteen minutes NFL columnist, Gary Myers who's got a new cowboy book later in best for last, I'll give you the most impressive drew Brees stat. Nobody is talking about, but let's talk about last night drew Brees last night made NFL history last night. So I'm going to start right there. I'm always more impressed when people overcome things in life. I want you to think about the obstacles drew Brees is faced in life. Number one DNA. He's six feet tall. There was no Russell Wilson. People didn't want to draft him. Sixty toll quarterbacks. Don't make it DNA disadvantage junior high school, tears, his NIA senior year, nobody will give him a scholarship except to basketball schools, Purdue and Kentucky. He goes to the NFL where he's good in San Diego for three years, and then they draft Philip rivers. Another obstacle. Oh, by the way in the NFL is last game in San Diego. He hurts his shoulder and then he goes to Miami and publicly. The doctor says, I can't clear you to play obstacle and they goes to New Orleans and it's a natural disaster Katrina obstacle. They play home games in San Antonio, one of them in New York, and then halfway through his stand New Orleans, Sean Payton get suspended for a year. His architect. His his life is a movie that you cry at you cry during. It's not a documentary. It's a tear Jerker. It's a star is born. I mean, it's incredible what he's overcome. We live in a time now guide you spend five minutes on Twitter. It's woe is me everybody's against me. I had, hey millennials. Sorry. If mom didn't pack your lunch and fold your underwear drew Brees. It's been every two years. A major obstacle, natural disasters, DNA injuries. His timing's been terrible. Got he goes to New Orleans Katrina. His last game in San Diego. He gets hurt the greatest eight quarterbacks. I've ever seen play the game, Payton Brady, Montana, Bradshaw Elway Marino Aikman breeze and all of them have different stories, but compare it to Peyton Manning. He broke his record last night right passing yards, but think of Peyton Manning. Earnings path, Peyton Manning DNA, perfect, six, five Peyton Manning's, dad, and I fell quarterback Peyton Manning had his choice of SEC school surrounded by NFL players. And then when he goes to Indianapolis, overland, Bill Polian hall of fame, general manager who gives Peyton Manning great player after great player after great player on the offensive side. He also got drafted. I mean, if you think about Peyton Manning's life and he deserves all the acclaim in face all these obstacles drew Brees from DNA on nothing but hurdles, nothing but road blocks, and he breaks Peyton Manning's record. It's unbelievable. So when I say great quarterbacks and people push back on it, I'm like, look at your own life. I mean, I say this all the time I had a few divorces in my life when I was a kid, but my mom was doting. My dad was a doctor, so I got some of his brain power. Our, I had a good relationship with my sister lived in the same house forever. I got a quarterback in high school. I fell in love with sports. I grew up in a small town, so there was lots of space right next to the beach had a good dog. I may add some issues in my life, but I didn't have that many roadblocks that a good life. I went to therapy woods as like, what am I crying for? I didn't have any roadblocks. A few divorces in my life drew Brees is life his athletic career, his professional career. It's just like it's a steeplechase heard left to heard left a hurdle after hurdle after hurdle in. Here's the play where he set the record to the families on the field intimidation of celebration. Will we get it here before halftime? In that. Great. And that fitting a big play. A big play. Congratulations to drew Brees tip of the cat. One of my all time. Favorite guys started watching football nineteen seventy-two. His story is as great as anybody that's ever played that position in this league. Amazing. Let me shift gears to this. Drew Brees. It's fitting drew Brees did what he did last night because the NFL's hard careers don't last very long. You don't have guaranteed contracts. A doctor can say, you're not cleared to play. It's hard. That's why I think I've always liked football players more than other athletes. It's hard man. It's hard. Successful guys are dealing with injuries. So the Philadelphia Eagles yesterday that just found out j. a running back towards ACL. Oh. Another. Bit of bad news for the eagles by the way it called out the team and they're play calling hours later, found out ACL tear probably out for the year. Yep. When you win in Philadelphia. And then you start lecturing. The NFL drew Brees showed you last night. It's hard. Think about all the things that have changed in the last five to six months for Philadelphia, their offensive coordinators now head coach. He left in Indianapolis, their quarterback coaches. Now, the offense coordinator in Minneapolis Garrett bunk, Trey, Burton, Brent Celik retires, Torrey Smith traded Mike Wallace placed on I r Darren sproles out since week. One j Gye probably out for the year k, this is why I said the Philadelphia Eagles books. Parades chatter politics reminded me so much of my hometown, Seattle Seahawks. New England is on their eighteenth straight year of being in the Super Bowl conversation. Do we understand how unbelievable that is? We're a few months removed from the Super Bowl champs. They go into camp. They're a mess their season Thursday against the New York Giants. I know it's like week, six. But in my wrong saying, it's a must win. This is why I compared the eagles to the Seahawks. They were historically frustrating. Franchise Atlanta's star quarterback doesn't take long. They win a Super Bowl. They get loud start talking. They lose coordinators and the next morning they wake up, oh, oh, we're back to being what we looked like. You ever throw a big party your house. You ever throw a big party your house. And I mean, here's my thing, but my wife and I want to twice a year, we'll throw a party and I'm like, I don't wanna party till four in the morning because I know what it looks like in my house. The next morning when I wake up, this is why one of the mantras on my show is celebrate briefly grind daily. The bigger the party, the bigger the mass. The following morning when you wake up folks get into the top is one thing staying there is harder. There's been a lot of one hit wonders in music. There's a handful of legends and Philadelphia don't give up on them. That divisions not very good. I still think. The Philadelphia Eagles will find a way to get into the playoffs. But what you're seeing Jay aja out now, probably for the year, you know what you should be thinking about how damn impressive New England is Philadelphia. That's got a good owner, a great GM, a great coach, a great quarterback. TEK all of the great offense of line great defensive line. It's man overboard, six months later coming up. Next, longtime NFL writer, Gary Myers, new York, Daily News. He's left that gig. He's writing books. He's got one on the Dallas Cowboys all sorts of inside good insight gossip good stuff, big j, journalism, all the stuff we like the National League championship series is now set Friday. It's game. One of the NFC s.'s Manny. Machado Kershaw and the dodgers take on MVP candidate Christian yelich and the brewers coverage begins at seven eastern on episode and the Fox Sports dodgers. Not seen him play. I'm not sure if they have the pitching that stacks up, but Cody Bellinger bat seventy SEO point eight. They bring was a Chris Taylor off the bench Matt Camp, David free so they can. They're stacked their, their batting line-up is absolutely stacked. Well, our next guest started covering the NFL in nineteen seventy eight. He was an NFL columnist for the Dallas Morning News. One of the great American newspapers then mo- moved to New York and cover the New York Giants in the NFL. So if it's giants are Cowboys, he knows what he's talking about and he's got a new book called how about them Cowboys? It's going to be released. What does the day today? It talked Tober ninth. What is the day today? Is it the ninth today? It's an get released today. Of that. I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, wait, it is Tober night. It's an inside look at Jerry Jones and his empire and plenty of other Cowboys stories and drama via the coward global satellite network, Gary Myers joining us. So explain this to me, you know, Jason Garrett. I mean, again, it's not a disaster. It's not Dave Campbell. It's not man overboard, but the fans in the media are very tough on him. But Jerry seems to have an allegiance to Jason Garrett. How close are they? It appears almost treats him like a son, like, I mean, it's, what are you surprised at the close this? Or what did you find in that relationship while writing the book. Considering how close they are kinda surprised at Jason and his wife don't actually live in the Jones mansion Dallas, they are that close. I think Jerry has finally opted fist ability in that organization after going through a lot of coaches following Jimmy Johnson and Jason. I think Jason is the perfect coach. Jerry, just in terms of he lets Jerry Jerry. He lets Jerry play with toy this five billion dollar enterprise and in return Jerry's been very well to Garrett, which I think is upset a lot of people in Dallas, especially after his decision on Sunday night, not to go for it on fourth and one in overtime in Houston. Is it possible that Jerry Jones likes Dak Prescott more than Jason. Garrett likes Dak Prescott and Jason knows it in Jason, doesn't love deck and looks around the league and sees Goffin Mahomes. What do you make of that? Does Jason truly believe in Daklak. Well, right now there's no alternative, so he better believe him. Otherwise, this season is gonna be shot in the next couple of weeks. But you know, Dak played so well in two thousand and sixteen that Romo was unable to get off the bench. She gave that concession speech around November of two thousand sixteen when he was ready to play, but realized that he couldn't because Dak wasn't a process of winning eleven games in a row they and to that point Romo and garett work stream Lee close. They used to go to maverick games together that they went to Duke to watch them play basketball. They made that trip together and GARRETT'S decision not to even allow Romo to compete to win his job back was very similar to what happened to Drew Bledsoe in two thousand one in New England, and whereas blitz on blitz blitz on Bella check. Whenever close by any means Romo in Garrett were very close and and Jason's decis. And not to allow Tony even compete that split up that friendship. And there's a lot of friction there at the end if that hadn't happened if they've still on good terms. At the end of that season, perhaps Tony would have come back thinking. He had a chance to compete for his job in training camp in two thousand seventeen. Instead he Astros release considered signing with the Texans and then decided not to, you know. Jerry still holds a press conference after every game is the only owner that has a Monday radio show. So when people tell me, you know he's less involved. Let me lean on you. You covered this team and followed this team. People has disengaged or does Jerry is his shadow. Hovering over game plans is his shadow hovering over draft day. Con I saw that series that Amazon did last year where they follow the Cowboys around. Yeah, for the year and it was it was startling to me that in the Monday morning coaches meeting Jerry, and sometimes Stephen would be in that meeting where they were discussing what one? Right. And what went wrong on game day. And I don't think there's any other on a league, maybe out Davis back in the day, whoever did anything like that. As far as Hoving over the game plan. I don't think he's that involved to that extent that he's telling Jason, you know, we got to throw the ball more. We gotta run a more. He is involved in the draft, but he doesn't impose his will to the extent that people think he does. And I have a great story in the book and anecdote about the two thousand fourteen draft with Johnny Menzel. And Steven Jones gave me a play by play of the draft room from ten minutes before the Cowboys are on the clock until they went ahead and took Zach Morton over Johnny Manziel despite the fact that Jerry went around the room and basically was pleading with anybody else to side with him on man's out. And when he couldn't find anybody, he said, okay, go ahead, take Zack Martin. But after the pick was turned in, Jerry turn to Stephen who was sitting right next to slap some really hard on the leg and said, son, I didn't get to where I was in my life by playing things down the middle. And if you just play things down the middle and don't take any. WCHS you're not gonna get very far either. And Steven was really hurt by that because he felt he was doing what was right for the organization, but to Jerry's credit. If you wanna give them credit on anything, he didn't force them to take Menzel. Yeah. Well, that's part of it. The book is how about them Cowboys released today, Amazon dot com. Inside look, Jerry Jones empire and plenty of the other cowboy drama. I want to shift to the New York Giants team you covered forever. Odell Beckham came out and I actually defended Odell. I said, listen, there's very few guys in an NFL roster in the NBA. It can't be cut and major league baseball. You can't be cut in the NFL. You can cut Tom Brady tomorrow. You'd have a cap hit, but you could do it. I mean, owed is one of the few people in that locker room that can come out, say something and not be demoted, didn't he just mentioned the elephant in the room that ally appears to be at times often a shot fighter. I mean, he's one of the more popular players. I think his words matter. This is one of the few times Dale. I'm like, he did. It didn't seem hurtful. He didn't. Inauthentic, I mean, what did you make of his comments about ally in the organization? I think that Odell statements were right around the money, everything. He said it was hard to disagree with wisn the ball going more than twenty yards down the field is Eli, the problem, not really sure. And by not giving a door sment you know that he thinks he lies the problem. It's just just don't say those things though that stuff should should remain in the locker room. At least that's the way coaches want it. Right. And the thing about Odell is everybody was saying from April first until he signed his contract does grownup that he's he's, he's matured and he's he's could be more of a team guy and not just talking about del and getting the ball, what he was doing there then con is that as soon as he realized that giants willing to trade them. And as soon as he realize that maybe they weren't gonna give them new contract. All of a sudden grew up for four months and says, he got his money. Is it really surprising? He's gone back to being Odell. He was protect. Ding, his money, which turned out to be a ninety million dollars extension with sixty five million dollars guaranteed. Now he's got his money in a pot in his pocket. The first month at a season didn't go as planned. He hadn't scored a touchdown, so we spoke up that's just l. being Odell the the real Odell was on vacation for about four months until he got his new contract by the way, Sam darnold one this weekend, Sam darnold favored to win. Again, this weekend. My suggest it on multiple times that you start looking at Carson Wentz if you have to play him ten times minimum in the next five years in twenty times in the next decade I want I gotta do better than Eli manning. Do you think they'll rue the day? Do you think there were people in the giants organization that tried to get the GM to draft Arnold or do you believe there was some fear based on the previous season of benching ally and an older giants fan base really pushing back deeply offended. How close do you think they got to a quarterback pick. Right away when get them in was introduced as the GM a couple days before the last game of the two thousand seventeen season. He came out in endorsed Eli, yes, Shurmur got hired a few weeks later. Canedo Steelite and said, we watched them in the Philadelphia game in December, and you know he can still sling it. Well, they picked out one game out of three and thirteen season, and they still lost that game to a backup quarterback. Ultimately, what I think is what happened on draft day. It wasn't so much that they would convinced ally still had two good years left in them certainly wasn't because they thought that say, Barkley was generational player, even though he was he is rather I, I firmly believe now that the giants pass on a quarterback because in their evaluations, they didn't look at any of those four guys who went in the top ten as being our guy for the next fifteen years. Otherwise, it's malpractice by that organization to pass a one of those guys thirty two to keep a thirty seven year old quarterback who's coming off to three really bad years when people don't think he can play any more. It would doesn't make sense that I have more respect for Dave Gettleman to think that he stuck with ally because full things can be great. Now, what I think happened is they just felt like the other four guys, none of them, we'll get to be the guy. You can criticize him for that, but at least that was evaluation of those. Rookies we'll see how it turns out. I think they made a huge mistake that would just call them. It'll be sensu hated if Sam Donald is finally the guy, and that Super Bowl streak of not being Super Bowl this now at fifty years for the New York Jets flying. Let's wrap back around the Cowboys. The book is called, how about them Cowboys? Gary Myers, in New York Times, bestselling author, inside the huddle stars and legends, was there something because obviously you cover them before and being giants guy. You've been to Dallas at least once a year for the last fifteen, twenty years. But was there something that surprised you a story, a nugget, a culture that surprised you writing this book. I think that maybe the best quote that I have in the book is from a story that Jimmy Johnson told me and this happened, he told me this last year, but this happened a few years ago. Troy Aikman was beside himself when Jimmy left. He just didn't like Barry Switzer. Barry had recruited them to to Oklahoma Troy broke his leg by time. It came back very changed the offense and Troy transportat- LA this sitting around having a beer and Troy says to Jimmy, and this is a to me, it says so compelling. He just says, you know, we could have been Brady and Bella check. Why did you have to leave? And Jimmy basically told Troy. I don't think like that my whole life is predicated on being happy and I wasn't happy. So even if I left Super Bowls on the table. It doesn't bother me to this day, and I think that really tells the story of the last twenty years. The Cowboys how these two guys who incredibly successful Jerry, Jimmy with unbelievable egos couldn't find a way to share the credit to keep this thing going. Free agency had just started the Cowboys had the best young town the league, even if they start losing free agents. Jimmy was so good at personnel. He would replenish the talent that team easily could have won four in a row. They one three out of four and they could've won five or six in a row. That point count. Their talent was so much better than any other team in the league and they were all young, yes, they could sustain that for long time. And I think that's kind of horrors over this entire book. The what could have been at these guys down to way to get along. Can't wait to read it. Gary love having you on the show. Good luck the book. It's called, how about them Cowboys? Thank you, sir. Anytime com. Thank you having me on by the way Goulet you grew up in Connecticut, and we're a cowboy fan and I've said this before the last NFL team, you'd think it's the patriots, but the let I can watch the patriots and it's almost like they're just kind of business and I'm like, I'm a chef. Sports is by produce. I like the best fresh produce right? New England's. Really good produce there. Well, run, they're smart. I admire the New England Patriots. The last team I was a fan of like like we get emotional about screaming TV was Cowboys when they had Aikman that team was they were literally like a movie yet yet the head coach of the big personality in the star quarterback and the stars receiver was controversial and a star running back and Jerry was this young maverick owner, the hole in the roof that was the last they were like, they were movie that the Cowboys were. That's why I've always said, I. Always love when USC in the Miami hurricanes are great in college football, they transcend the sport. The Cowboys were the Lakers in cleats. They were just bigger than the league. They just felt massive, and it was like star coach, star receiver, star BAC, star, quarterback star stated star, uniform star brand, the patriots. It's like it's a machine. It's a conveyor belt of excellence, but I don't. I don't have an emotional, like if New England, Bella check, Brady retired tomorrow. I'd be tip of the cap. Nice run. That's that was that was the last emotional response, the sports that you've had a long time? It was the last NFL team that I was emotionally. I didn't feel as good a Monday. You don't get emotional about NFL couple of years ago. The Seahawks played the patriots in Super Bowl, my hometown team and the team. I lived in Connecticut, but I grew up in the north west and I was like that coin flip, I don't care. I didn't have it. I, I liked Russell Wilson a lot like it'd be kinda cool not want to reveal your biases by telling us which team still has some emotional. Ties, you didn't. None of them do none. It's all dead for, you know, listen, if you listen to me, I admire excellence. I like, listen, it's it's not your job to be excellent. If you're not, I'm not gonna talk about you. I don't care now. I do like I will say this that the Ohio State football is in the Yankee baseball and the Laker basketball. Interesting. We're in the content and I think big traditional brands are good for my business. So I like to see the Celtics face the warriors think Colin amass knee which feel what I feel now you don't even care about those teams. John at all, my home teams were so bad as a kid going up that I had no problem rooting for other teens. You used to like the Washington US? Yes. What was your college? Yeah. And then they broke my heart attack times and they have to get dumped one hundred times girl feel about the dolphins. You've been dumped so many times hills this now I just I know what to expect with them. Yeah, I can never fooled, but I, I still gonna motion about the heat, but I will hold onto that. That cowboy team was the Showtime. Lakers the brand, the coach. He was Pat Riley, the Showtime, magic, kareem's stars, the fabulous forum. There were celebrities. It was like the Showtime Lakers, and the Cowboys would Aikman Jimmy Johnson transcended their sport. It was the best show on television. Through a shoe at a TV once or twice. Thank you reminiscing about when it used to feel for I feel you know what the business takes it out of you little bit. Once you're the more the longer that you're in the business, the harder it is to maintain true fandom, especially on a national level. We have to talk about everything level. You can came on the show today. I love sports again. I mean he made me there's a lot like about sports. I must say you don't like sports. I feel great energy with sports. I can't LeBron Lakers. I'm gonna be energize watching. Yeah, that'd be fun. Joy with the news. On the new. This is the third line news certainly don't feel for is still eagles eagles. I think they were so obnoxious last year. There were so obnoxious, well, they're having a little trouble this year. Jay is done for the season. We talked about that the beginning of the shows and they're in desperate need of running back help, then get this. They reportedly reached out to the bills about a possible trade for the Shawn McCoy. That's interesting. Bringing on McCoy all time leading rusher the first six seasons of his career with the eagle. You still great. Yes, yes. And he was unceremoniously ship to the bills as part of chip Kelly's drastic house cleaning to fourteen the did well for chip Kelly reputation. That'd be fun. It would be interesting to see him back in an eagles jersey. And I think I think his just aside and the fact that obviously he was an eagle. I think this particular eagles team fits well with Leshan like the chip Kelly situation. Obviously everything fell apart with though the whole better. Situation, but I think the way that the eagles are constructed fit right in that situation. Obviously they need back out. So Jon Watson's been taking a beating through five games. He's been sacked eighteen times now of that has to do with their offensive line. But Bill O'Brien, obviously wants to see reduction on the number of places he's getting knocked around. He's a great competitor. He's trying to help his team win, but obviously those are pleased that we wanna cut down on. That's not a sustainable way to play now. Not obviously he's getting sacked a lot, but he also took a couple of hits in this last game just I mean that hit this hit. Oh God. Like what? I'm watching this little out loud. What are what are you doing? Oh, look at that Lord, help that situation. But this go. Oh, there's no way you're running through Jalen Smith. You're not doing it. The TV show, Batman, pow, bang, smash, yes. God, those slide. You can't buckle. That's RG three s like where you're just looking at it, like on what? In what version of reality are you running through Andrew lucked at some of this when he first broke into this leak and big bandit some of this and Camden some of this and by the way they all got beat up like he can't do this that you just can't. And Shawn Watson is a great talent. It was exciting to watch us. You're obviously before his terrible injury day today with a chest injury, Houston, chronicle studies, day-to-day chest, Andrea, you gotta watch this hits. Finally, Luke Walton made some interesting comments yesterday when he was asked about the noise of the new Lakers he thinks the noise will be louder than the shack. Toby teams that he was a part of. The more noise and one of us ever. Ever Luke award. I think this is going to be more only because the world we live in. What do you think. I don't know. I think I agree with him because social media has to to another level and NBA and social media is on even another level than every other sport. So I do think with LeBron and Lonzo and just the the buzz around the team right now, it could excel that level, some drama, Shaq and Kobe. You know, it's just the world's changed and everybody's chatting, and everybody's talking and players breaking stories this this the Lakers are going to be the highest rated team in the NBA this year, they'll get the highest ratings for every game there on any game. The warriors will probably be number two, but the Lakers LeBron will get the highest rating when the number one player joins the number one brand, Alex Rodriguez to the Yankees, it's a paradigm shift or. Yeah, and I don't have any expectations for the first half of the season for the Lakers because we, we know the brand doesn't practice like that, and it's gonna take a little time to get this all together. So that's gonna make it even more interesting. But yeah, he. I think he's right about that with social media and just the saturation of coverage these days that that wasn't around then just it's just a different world. Joy, Taylor, the news. Well, that's the news. Thanks for stopping by. Can I just say gimme sixty seconds on this. Give me ninety seconds. Just thinking about this today is that I'm a sports caster now I work out every day. So I, you know, I sweat, but I'm not an athlete, right? Like over the weekend Conor McGregor thought an undefeated fighter from Russia could be, and they were fighters and then a fight broke out at the fight after the fight. You'd don't say and they both hate each other shocking. Here's the one thing will say about the UFC to support it. And I see the media do this all the time. If you train for six months to be an attack dog, a bar Burien a relentless fighter. And then because a buzzer goes off and the fights over you are suddenly a sophisticated gentleman who plays by the rules. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. If you are a trash talking bar Burian and you are ripping a guys religion, and he's Rippin you and I making threats, and I'm talking about your family and then because a bell rings to say, the fight is over, you think these athletes can just suddenly go, okay, let's be proper put on tennis. Acquire a gamesmanship in there was a lot of hate for six months in that fight. And I'm not saying this is good, but sometimes in the media, we don't understand boxing's had this happened multiple times. We've had fights at boxing in UFC press conferences. You don't have a team when you're a man fighting another man in an octagon in a cage. You are a warrior because a bell sounds you're still a warrior. You also have to be a professional. That's the difference between you fighting in the street for free and fighting in front of millions of. People and making millions of dollars, you're professional, there's different rules. I don't know. I think these guys are wired differently. Differently at the end of the day, that still remains. There's a reason there's a cage around it and they're not. They're not just people walking up and throwing punches in this being now dread blood on you disgusting. Well, that's that's what the fight is. I'm just I'm just supporting to attacking bar Burien professional ath-. I totally supportive of the barbarian attacking the other barbarian inside of the cage that they have allow them to fight in. And then I'd like to pay my money and go and watch. I'll sit far enough back that hopefully I'll get blood splash on me if I do. That's fine. That comes with the territory. What I don't want is a flying Burien human in my face. I just think this sport is. You have to be such a crazy person to be in that sport. I said before you could take drew Brees who was great last night. If you went to drew Brees this morning and say, hey, drew, I'll give you ten million dollars. If you do a UFC cage fight, he plays in a violent sport, pass on that and drew Brees would go. Are you nonsense hats on this? I would never do that even professional athletes in violent sports. Look at UF and go, yeah, not gonna, ever do anything like that. I think you have to be a crazy person to do that. Still have to be crazy to do that, but you can't be so crazy that you put the people who are paying the money to that you Ida money off of danger. I don't. I don't think you can separate the two. I think if you're crazy enough to do that, you can't go crazy. It'll make the sport fall apart. There's there's levels to this, like I understand that people said, horrible things to culturally. It's I'm struggling with with having a lot of compassion for the world that we live in, say, horrible things. You gotta have. A thicker skin than that. I'm like, that's what it is. You can't jump out of the cage what ha. What happens when he jumps out of the acting on so chasing after someone and they're say, a woman sitting there who trampled and is in something terrible happens in the hospital, then just pay hospital bills. Fifteen people. What if it's not one woman you're hospital bills are way more. I don't know. I think you're trying to ask crazy people. Oh, bell went off. Don't be crazy. And let's say they'll be crazy. Just keep it in between the cage with the thing. All right. Don't be that guy in the room in the long sloppy, looking untucked shirt, untucked dot com. Code her g. q. perfection g. q. gentlemen's quarterly. They're not crazy. They're untuckit dot com. Code. Her twenty percent off coming up might be drew Brees his most impressive stat. Nobody's talking about it best for last next. All right. Let's not waste any time. Best for last after almost three hours Colin apparently hasn't gotten to the point yet. Quit holding out on us cowherd it's the best for less. Well, last night drew Brees broke Peyton Manning's record career passing yards. And it's it's really remarkable. If you look at the obstacles, he overcame Drew's having another amazing year best passer rating best completion percentage in the NFL. Certainly a Super Bowl team at this point. Breezes thirty nine turds forty in January. A lot has been written about Tom Brady the ageless wonder in Foxborough, but we know quarterbacks go downhill in their late thirties, but here's what's remarkable. We dug this up from age thirty, five on breeze Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as good as any quarterbacks who played the last ten years in this league that actually drew Brees in yards per game completion percentage in passer rating. Minimum fifty games is better and sometimes significantly better than Peyton Manning. Tom Brady, he's actually been the better old quarterback, but why isn't he celebrated as much? Well, let's look at winning percentage because Brady and Peyton Manning had fewer obstacles. Often better teammates. Often better front office and Brees has not one is much. He joined us earlier today coming off his record-setting night, and we talked about a lot of different things. He was as usual classy, but I asked him about when he came off his injury to Miami, and he came to New Orleans. And I said, is it possible that New Orleans was actually the perfect city for you drew Brees. There's no question. There's no question. God had a plan. I felt like it was a calling to come to New Orleans. We need in New Orleans as much as he could say. Maybe doorless needed somebody to leave them to. And so he was just, it was the perfect fit. It was the perfect match in a way we were both trying to rebuild right rebuild. Our lives are career. There was so many unknowns, and yet I just felt like we were. We were all leaning on each other and. The most amazing thing. I think my wife or any experience became on our recruiting visit. So to speak in New Orleans was that every person that we met really didn't say anything about football, what they said was thank you for wanting to be a part of this community and considering New Orleans. And, and I think you realize. All of the special place. If you place, you know, there's a spirit here. There's a culture here. It's unlike any other, you know, one of the challenges you face now as a father, a husband, thirty nine years old. You are now surrounded often by twenty two year olds. There is an age gap and it doesn't matter if you're a CEO or a high school principal. You have to bridge that gap. You have to relate to young players who are often backs, receivers, offensive, linemen, how have you done it? Because when I watch you you are. I mean you're going to be a forty year old guy. You're surrounded by kids and they look up to you and they listen to you and I don't think that's easy and you have bridged it. Do you think about that? Yeah, it is. It is your name because I definitely feel like, you know, I come from a different generation. You know, most cases jazz a lot over twenty two twenty three, twenty four, you know. So I'm six seventeen years older and a lot of these guys. Is, you know? I, I, I like to think that being around them, rejuvenates me. It keeps me young. You know, I feel a great sense of responsibility. You know each and every year to come in and take the new draft class or young free agents they come in and and you're your China study scratch opportunity to build up the offense. He identifies your team again, and and I feel like I learned as much from them is, is I hope they learn from being, you know, I don't know. I mean, having having young boys too. I mean as thought, if you I in the world at the facility with my boys. One of fake it right out jumping in the world full and they're just like, I mean, they keep me too. They keep me up up to speed on like the the latest night, dances and all that other stuff too. So I, I feel like I'm pretty hip to the game, you know, even the old guy now, but not listen, I, I love the locker room. I love the guy. I mean, I, I know that a lot of guys who have left the game most recently retired guys that I don't want with, they say, man. The thing I miss the most is the locker room being around the guys and the game day. Those are the things you really can't replace. You know, once you be the game. And so I'm just trying to enjoy the moment. Enjoy every second of it, and we certainly enjoyed a drew Brees last night. Good stuff. Redskins did not put up much of a fight despite a buy week, but it was so fitting that his record setting play was a long touchdown drew Brees post thirty. Five has been better than Brady and manning in key statistics tomorrow Peter King and Joe. Klatt third.

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Dak Prescott, Browns, Patriots, and where Colin was right & wrong

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Dak Prescott, Browns, Patriots, and where Colin was right & wrong

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Oh here we go on a busy Monday so much to unpack this is it Dr Live in Los Angeles wherever you may be and however you may be listening we're on Iheartradio our Radio Fox sports radio and F one one hour from now where Colin was right lots of that and were calling was wrong lots of that joy Taylor is joining me all the road teams winning yesterday. The young quarterbacks were they had some tough times. Tom Brady at top times. Patrick mahomes add top dives. This is what I love about the NFL just win Sunday suddenly Cleveland I play or you lose Sunday. A Houston and you're like like Oh man overboard. This team can just so great. It was a crazy day Razi Day. Let me start with this so once again we you have a Dak Prescott game where you can take angles. I'll tell you the angle I take which is Dallas had no running game playing a great Defense Amari Amari Cooper could not get open at all Jason Witten fumbled Zeke didn't but it was called a fumble last play of the game Dax in position thrown a hail Mary for a chance to win or you could take this angle. What no drew breeze saints never score a touchdown? Our defense is unbelievable and we can't we can't make one play dat can't make one huge play and the funny thing is both of those are true and I'm okay with tell my wife this all the time happiness is controlled by expectations about two months ago. I went to a store with my daughter and I bought a bunch of cheap t-shirts. He shares they are about seven bucks a t-shirt. My expectation was those will be good for about four washes and they just won't fit and tried to get one on yesterday today. It was done for washes when I sit in the back of the plane. My expectations are different than when I'm fortunate enough to sit near the front of the plane point. What are your expectations? If you're waiting for jaw-dropping Dak that's on you. That's not on back. You know what I saw yesterday from deck. I I saw what I get every Sunday from Dak fourth quarter cowboys have a chance to win. Dak never makes that dumb young quarterback throw throw. He's always never too high or too low emotionally. He's almost sort of the classic poker face he'd be a good poker player and when guys are open he hits them. I get I get that every game with that. Okay so if you're waiting thing for Carson Wentz and Mahomes Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson that my friends is on you he is not he is not jaw-dropping. He is not breathtaking he he is not spectacular but I'll tell you what he doesn't make that throw that Cam Newton does or kirk cousins does and get you out of the game he he never ever puts you in a position where you're like man we played great defense and we're not in the game. You're always in the game and by the way if you are a cowboy fan that is saying this is this morning but he'll never make the play that mahomes will or Carson wentz will or Russell Wilson will you're right and it's it's. It's you know what that's called. Being a realist you have realistic expectations on Dak Prescott and again you can take take any angle you want but did you notice what DAX said after the game. This is also something I get every Sunday Sunday with back. This is on us. I think this is about our lack of execution regardless with the way they're doing things. There's a lot of players left dot. They're on my part on this whole offense part a grownup taunting a coach. It's not blaming a teammate teammate. It's like we left a lot out. We can do better and win so my expectations with back against that saints defense which is Special Ashley in fact. I think lattimore you can argue. He's the best player at his position in the NFL. Amari Cooper couldn't get this open Zeke couldn't run. I've seen kirk cousins those game when he doesn't have a running game I've seen Mitch Trubisky in those games when his best receiver can't get open open I've Seen Cam Newton in those games when when when CAM has no running game and they're making mistakes and the game's over Dak Prescott with no running game top receiver can't get open loudest place in the NFL great defense throwing the ball down the field near the goal line. I'll take it I will take that over. Uh Ninety nine percent of this league not called Patrick Mahomes in Carson wentz shifted this well well well well well Cleveland browns and first place. Oh in Ohio this morning. They are dancing in my football grave. jive Que get over that salves Colin your face did did you look around the NFL yesterday and did you notice a trend that the young quarterbacks that teams needed to save the day struggled struggled K. Josh Allen we can move the ball here. Save the day lost Baker. We're in a whole our defense stinks save. The day can't cuyler Murray. You're going up against a better coach better roster and a better quarterback saved the day he couldn't but in Cleveland they didn't ask Baker Mayfield to do that. The Cleveland browns rushed for almost two hundred yards. Almost seven yards arosh had the ball for thirty one minutes. They didn't ask Baker Mayfield to to save their bacon what they asked him to be was managed. The game make a handful of big throws on play action to make sure you were emotionally in a good spot not too high not too low. He threw a pick he didn't go crazy and watch our defense dominate Lamar Jackson Jackson Baker Mayfield by the way when he's asked to throw over thirty two times his record is three nine when Baker is asked to throw the ball all thirty one times or fewer. He's six no again expectations. I keep hearing what a great athlete is runs a four eight four forty. He's five five eleven and a half cuyler Murray could be a major league baseball player. That's a great athlete. Okay Andrew luck a great athlete Tim t-bills playing baseball you you got to thinking that Baker Mayfield that we can play average defense just worried about getting the ball to. Ob J. asked him to throw thirty four times carriers that that is a problem again that is not who he is look around the NFL yesterday the young quarterbacks who were not asked too much. We're not asked to save a team. I mean Jared Goff through sixty eight times yesterday. Of course he had multiple turnovers. That's two Sundays He. He has like two games so when I watch Cleveland yesterday I'm like Oh. That's a Formula Nick Chubb Twenty Four carries in that ballpark all park play really good defense asked Baker to throw the ball primarily on play action. You can do that every week. I can do that every week. Baker Mayfield can win a division. If that's the formula the first couple of games of the year. You're asking Baker to do stuff. He's just not capable of doing. He's not a great athlete. He's fine. He's got good feed. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't have a howitzer. He's not went or mahomes or Rogers. It's got a solid arm a good arm not a great arm. He's a decent athlete. He's not a great athlete yesterday. The Cleveland coaching staff Freddie Kitchens finally figured it out. Oh Baker is not going to lead us. Baker is GonNa manage our great defense didn't I didn't I tell you Nick Chubb. Didn't I keep telling you he's going to be He. He is the Star I said this. Before the draft they said my favorite running back and it was a deep draft. I said GET NICK CHUBB IN CLEVELAND. Finally figured it out Baker's not going to be in. Here's here's the thing when your franchise doesn't have a star quarterback when you finally get one that appears competent savvier he's GonNa be. He's the baker's not the savior. That's not what he is. What he is is potentially a franchise quarterback who with a great defense in a running game can make the needed throws and you can win divisions but when you're bad forever when John elway leaves Denver and you're trying to make every jake plumber the severe dear John Elway as a once in a fifteen twenty thirty year franchise after Dan Marino you're looking for the savior savior is even even Patrick? Holmes isn't a savior because Kansas City was getting to the playoffs with Alex Smith. Patrick Mahomes is not a savior in Cleveland thinks Baker Mayfield is no yesterday astor day is a formula stop worrying about getting O- BJ touches stop worrying about Baker Making plays that make great highlights defense running then game play action have him throw fewer than thirty one times. He's six now. That was a nice win by the way. Did you notice this yesterday. All the young quarterbacks that had a running game Gardner Men's shoe had a great running game with Leonard Fournette one Daniel Jones his running back hundred eighteen yards one and Kyle Allen Christian McCaffrey Freak one all the young quarterbacks who didn't ask the franchise all the young quarterbacks that had run support one and that's the formula maybe when they get older it's not but it is when they're young all right coming up next blazing five top of the hour it is it is a top of the hour blazing five Colin right wrong my bed Fridays. Mondays all mixed together coming up up next. I think I'm seeing something from a team and I've never seen it before and it's unbelievable. It may be the best I've I've ever seen and for the first time in my life none of us know what to call it and we've always known what to call it. When we see it and we don't know what the Collet Colin Right Colin wrong forty-five minutes from now that's coming up be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays the noon eastern nine? Am Pacific on Fox sports radio at this one and the iheartradio APP according to studies only about ten percent of break ins are planned beforehand or hand the rest spur of the moment burglaries. What's crazy is only one in five home has home security? One in five simply safe is a great choice protects every door and window Indo and room twenty four seven pro monitoring around the clock fifteen bucks a month. That's it the one thing that makes simply safe. 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Mangini former browns coach and jets coach and Patriots assistant will be joining us here on the chair my entire tire life. Every great defense has had one of two things generally. Both it's had a great nickname in the seventies. It was the steel curtain the purple people people leaders in Minnesota. It was the orange crush in Denver. It was the monsters of the midway mid eighties with the Chicago bears as the Legion of boom in Seattle right like they all have great nicknames and if they don't they at least have stars that Baltimore Defense with you know Ray Lewis and mcallister there on the corner and Tony Siragusa. There's never been an exception a great all-time defense you either got. I have pro bowlers all over it or I've got branding ending the Patriots yesterday they have neither dont`a hightower didn't even play their top draft picks. They're on. They're on special teams. They don't plan they. They went to buffalo a well coached good team really well coached team in division so they know their personnel and New England got eleven first downs averaged three yards a rush under four yards of pass and one. Do you know how hard it is to win the NFL when you can't move the ball for three and and a half hours on the road against the well coached team with an excellent defense and you win. I mean we liked the rams. Defense rights got all sorts of good players gave up fifty five yesterday day. We liked the packers defense. They gave up thirty four at home yesterday. New England goes on the road and can't move the Rock and wins and there are I know stars. I mean last year thirtieth in sacks. Dante hightower didn't play their top. Two defensive draft picks this year. They're not playing right now like special. It'll teams seven snaps New England's defense. Even the most anonymous great defense ever had a nickname the seventy two Miami dolphins. They were called the no name defense. This team doesn't even have that name. They'd make a terrible movie trailer. They'd be an awful movie poster because all the things they're good at are not really attractive unless you're a coach. They're smart. They're sound they're experienced their coach -able their discipline. They're well positioned. You never beat him. Over the top. Everybody in the secondary can cover tackle catch and be coached. I've never I've just never seen a defense and my maybe it's not not this good. Maybe it's the opposition maybe it's they faced a bunch of cruddy offenses but in my life great defenses had stars they they had names they had a brand and they usually had two or three transformational players that blue stuff up and you had the double team and I don't don't get a feeling of that with New England so baby. I'm just over stadion. Maybe they're not that good. I think it's one of the best secondary's I've ever seen in terms of. You never beat it over the top. They can all tackle that can all catch if you throw the ball in the wrong place you will pay a price for it but it's a very unique defence right now new England's defense. It's has scored more than it's allowed now think about that in the NFL and I know you can say well. This team's not good in that team's not good in this team's not good and that's there's they've they've had like eighty nine possessions this year. People have scored on three of them. I mean there's there stats that say your God God and then there stats that historically don't make any sense and what New England's doing right now it to go on the road and have eleven first downs good defense good bubbles the team. I that's just doesn't happen in. NFL just doesn't work that way joy with the News Lou you heard on the news. This is the third line news. Montas perfect was objected yesterday. After a helmet to helmet hits colts tight then Jack Doyle and now the league has suspended him for the remainder of the two thousand nineteen season this is the third time perfect has been suspended for onfield incidents ends and the NFL issued a letter to him that read in part following each of your previous rule violations you were warned by me and each of the jointly appointed appointed appeal officers servers that future violations would result in escalated accountability measures however you've continued to frequently abused rules designated to protect yourself and your opponents from unnecessary Azeri risk he is planning to appeal the suspension. This is the longest suspension that's ever been handed down for an Onfield Act. NFL history this is one of these if your resume is filled with troubling transgressions then you're going to get less leeway like Mrs why you should be a good person in life because if you have a bad day and you blow your temper people go he's a good guy. He just had a bad day. The problem sometimes right vaunt has just had too many flags so people are GonNa have no tolerance for him in no sympathy because this this is I mean he ended up hitting his own guy to in this in this hidden and look. I don't think that every helmets helmet hit tells the same story I totally agree very fast asked game and when we slow put things in slow motion something's can look intentional a receiver or titanic quarterback and move their head one inch and someone is going full speed. They can't help it like you said. This is not a space where you're going to get the benefit of the doubt nor should you. I mean look I mean hit. Josh Allen was how much the helmet head but is it the same MHM story is perfect like I think that it is I saw while it's still brutal I saw Marcus Peters yesterday. Intercept run for touchdown and get hit as hard as any. I I mean I've never seen a football player. Get hit that hard. He literally just disintegrated but again it was helmet-to-helmet but it was big guy chasing fast guy there near the goal line POW fireworks there were and you're like oh that wasn't a targeting that was just a massive collision. Yes every hit is not equal and the intention is not is not there but if you're perfect you're just not going to get the benefit of the doubt there so he's gone for the season in an we'll see what happens with the appeal but I doubt his appeal will be overturned for that so the rams suffered the first loss of the season to the bucks yesterday jared goff through over five hundred yards but also turn the ball over four times which Tampa Bay turned into four touchdowns talking about not every turnovers created equally after the Game Sean McVeigh said his team is ready to learn from this loss and move on their next match up with Seattle. I think it's really a wake up. Call for everybody. You know ultimately is about finding a way to win football the game we didn't do that today. We make no excuses for it and and we relish the opportunity for the right way because that's the only thing that we can really control that we play again on Thursday. We're going to find a way to to look at ourselves and and we can play better and we get an opportunity on Thursday. I think that's a blessing force. They have no running game off. Turn around. No they have no running again again. We suspect that going into the season no but I mean when you're asking a kid throw six. I'm just thinking it sounds absurd. No and you don't really WanNa put it on Jared Goff. He's I still four turnovers. I know but remember a couple years ago. When Gov faced mahomes last yes okay and it was literally it was the craziest easiest game ever is the best season yeah we didn't crush mahomes who had five turnovers because we were like well as defense thinks that he's having to make plays when you ask a quarterback even mahomes throw so at fifty eight times yeah the odds of turning it over raise significant I mean he's literally by the way the rams offensive line joy because they spent so much money on girly early? You GotTa get rid of to offensive linemen that aligns not the same. I mean it was very telling game for the rams. I will say that you can't rely on your Golfer really really like you said anyone to do that. I mean four turnovers. Either way is still a lot especially if they're going to turn each of them into touchdowns like you're not GonNa win that game even though it was you know up until that sue soon turnover they might have pulled it off. But what are the bucks listen. If when the first day anybody can figure out Tampa. Give me a call there the Tennessee in Tampa I know I just don't know literally never said this to you Friday on blazing five taking Tennessee over Atlanta because you can never berry Tennessee 'cause they'll come out no crush new England the following week that game with Atlanta was over in six minutes campus the same thing. I can't can't figure Tampa out. It's so strange. It is like dude. We take Jamie's seriously now. I have a little more time on that. Finally the lines gave the chiefs the scare on Sunday mahomes pulled out the thirty four thirty win for Kansas City to remain undefeated but Detroit's defense did a good job stopping him streak of fourteen straight games with at least two touchdown passes now over yet no passing touchdowns go but he was able to lead the chiefs down the field and half minutes left setting up their Williams for the game winning touchdown on run which is that to me is the essence of the chiefs like you don't need Patrick Mahomes with throw a bunch of touchdown to win. He had fifty four rushing yards so he killed them on a couple of spots showing one of them there by the way they needed eight he got nine. That was the game he made a play and that's really that's what you need and that's why he special so yes. He puts it's up amazing numbers and you know is is thrilling passing the ball making the play in the moment is what separates him from from everyone else and that said you gotta get the lion's some credit because not replied gray and that that was an impressive game by the lines. I'm impressed with the Lions Yeah. No they were well. I knew when I saw the line last week and it was like six and I'm like oh the NFL thinks this is going to be close and usually when the NFL when you see a line that doesn't make sense. You're like somebody in Vegas knows more than I do. That's why I didn't unpick that game. I I would have said it was at twelve point line so I like the lines to be closeness game. I think sometimes we get overreacting to you know the high flying offense that the chiefs are eventually. It's going to become to anhalt from somebody so I'd feel a lot better being alliance fan a vikings fan this morning. What a mess that was that was an unwatchable trouble mess joy with the news well? That's the news thanks for stopping by head coach jets head coach coordinator under for years for the New England Patriots Defensive Coordinator and the niners. Let's bring in Eric Mangini. We don't get him on the west coast much so I know I got a steak dinner coming up here in a couple of days and I get the coach know how long in town for by the way I'm here all we oh my lord well. We'll have a little steak dinner this week so let me start with a team that you you know. Well you know their personnel. You know their system. You know their culture I always feel like the truth of the NFL comes out by the second or third week in October. Buffalo's had a a lot of three no starts in September so I look at New England's defense in in my life great defenses of usually had a nickname and tour three really the high end players. The Ravens Defense had mcallister at corner a dominating defensive tackle Ray Lewis the Tampa Bay defence with Derrick Brooks are Warren Zap. I look at this New England defense. Dont`a hightower didn't play their top draft. Picks defensively didn't play much They're always in the right spot and they're very coach trouble. Does it look like an all time great defense. I mean what do I make of it. They're statistically people can't get first downs on them. Yeah I think you might be getting a little but ahead your they've really haven't played any high high powered offenses right. I mean the the four teams played have all struggled offensively and they're going to the next macos. Well Yeah so you might need to slow that down. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when they do face offense that can be really explosive but to date they haven't even with the bill situation you get a quarterback that can do a lot of good things but turns the ball over and they start the game and and they make a great play on special teams so they're up by fourteen points that game changes the complex and the game changes pretty dramatically early on the thing about New England's defense that they do really well and and the whole system in general is you get a bunch of smart guys that play well together and everybody talks about being game plan specific so there are certain in defenses that teams will run against eighteen but they don't fundamentally change who they are to stop the team. New England is able to fundamentally onto mentally change each week who they are to stop what you do best and force you to be lefthanded. That's how they're designed. Other people want to do that. It's it's how we we operated New England's how they operate now and it's different than most teams and that's what makes them unique and special yeah they. They have the ability to just change week to week. That's not really nobody in the league doesn't like that. You've got to have smart guys and you've got a train that way a every single week so when you bring that game plan in and it's radically different than the last week nobody even blinks you actually look forward to what the game plan is going because you like the challenge of adjusting taking away that teams strength and make him play lefthanded. I'll tell you game. I watched and I listen sometimes. I don't know what to take from the rams and Tampa. I do know that L. A.'s running game is not the same. It's just not but take the browns and Baltimore. I don't think Baltimore's at-bat I don't think Cleveland's GonNa Dominate them again when they plan like that. I did see from Cleveland a team. You know well you live in Cleveland. So you see the shows you see the you see everything. I did see a formula. That seems repeatable. Good defense lower the penalties run with Nick Chubb. Don't become paralyzed trying to go b j the ball. It seemed to me almost a fairly simple repeatable thing I think they're defensive. Fronts excellent and I love Nick Chubb. I think you can you can rinse and repeat that a little bit right like that's that feels go formula yeah. It is to some degree but when you look at a Baltimore here's another situation where their offense really hit played teams. That were the bottom end of of the defenses. I think it was like thirty thirty one and thirty two points points louder or something along those lines and for Cleveland. It's they go into the season. There's high expectations. They add those expectations then they realize hey this isn't that's not a good form of it. That's a horrible formula. They get humbled to some degree and they've got they've got to adjust and the the challenge there is managing the personalities. He's got a bunch of big offense of personalities. Everybody wants the ball so to go in and say yeah. We're going to feature next Nick Chubb Well Becky I'm going to be happy with Nick Chubb being featured as Jarvis Landry going to be happy with Nick Chubb being featured so is it good for nick. Chubb is really good. Yes nick trump is really dynamic. Nick Chub can change the types of defenses that Baker Mayfield gets week in week out because they're going to have to stop him now. It's managing those whose personalities during the week saying we're not designing twelve plays for you to be the star we're we're going to run things collectively and selflessly and I don't know if they have the strength strength of personality and character to do. OB J. by the way seven targets catches. He's had a watch issue visor issue yesterday. It was an earring issue it to me. I don't think again I think Oh. BJ'S ICING. I think the cake to me is nick job. I think he's The star of the offense. He is the star of the offense offense but unfortunately there's a bunch of other people who feel that they're the star of the offense and you can you can throw Baker Mayfield in there too so you you need to have a certain amount of selflessness to operate in that space and when you've got a young head coach and a room full of stars. Everybody wants her name on the marquee. It's going to be Hartman. Take a step back and say oh no no no you go ahead. You start this week and I'll just get my two catches that will last about fifteen minutes for this kind of fighting a meter meeting room right. I get that Eric Mangini joining us. I said to start the show. there's two things you can look at Dak two ways you can look at the fact that listen on on the road no runn