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WTA Finals Day 3 - Osaka agony; Bartys baffling defeat; and in ATP news, Medvedev lost a match

The Tennis Podcast

32:06 min | 1 year ago

WTA Finals Day 3 - Osaka agony; Bartys baffling defeat; and in ATP news, Medvedev lost a match

"Editon is podcast listeners is at one month since Katherine Matt and Myself Got Ta sooners beams delivered mass now has a TV thankfully against the US is quite useful having a TV to go with the sinus but yes yeah what about the Oh it is sleep I'm Andy Murray and you're listening to the tennis podcasts yeah I mean she's been serving well in spite of it and she served in fact in her opening match against both the triplets Megan's mm saved and hopefully it'll be a much better podcast as a result anyway pub every other week that's given Hi I'm John McEnroe onboard this is Martina Navratilova Am Mats Wilander this is Mary Carillo. I'm stunned Wawrinka enlightened a but interesting nonetheless very very disappointing that Nyamira Sarka was forced to withdraw from the event because title reverberating share shoddy is doing what he does sort of once or twice a year spectacular tennis that everybody believes in but so we found another pub to record it and once again with downstairs in the basement of it and so catherine would move vibes to have the animated argument about the share price of Tesla before you rowing well nothing wrong with gray hair but the live action it's absolutely packed in Paris which is great to see less packed in Chen's today sad it's been troubling her and it's such a shame from every angle with the added dimension of her shoulder injury what was she on a like a twelve match winning streak having one in Osaka and then in Beijing won a first-round match against Patrick Evita and then older injury that she said she'd been suffering with from the final in Beijing Actually Matt was saying that he she'd been shakily in my beer intake at the moment I'm bordering on at least one and half yeah I'm bordering on these three now in two days so anyway nationally the people just ahead of us on the table just a few feet away were heard to say it's a bit dead down here is now then we'll go back upstairs sorry she says really well as vases has been evidence that it's been in Asian tingles player is a big factor donation event big factor they really come out and foods to support to support Asian player you'd be surprised if he ended up winning we will see but he has won six two seconds and you all know this results bid he has I'd say on day one the the vacation and the reaction she got but she said she'd she woke up and it was just throbbing right now as we come to you live from the pub we've got done with mental having just lost a set catherine before we get onto the WJ finals what's going on that shook waves and I mean the you know maybe maybe you might get through a match sure to more who knows about it was but Asian and it would have been agonizing for her I'm sure this is a huge event we know I mean I know that these players aren't motivated by money money on offer in tennis anywhere but I also failed because it didn't go well for the WNBA finals last year I think that that was a source of great motivation and it would be it would be clip and even Mugabe has to ignore the amount to play and win and get far and etc shoulders hurting too much looser she said you might have got a little bit and made it frankly not really want to play it that much I I I don't buy that I personally think she was desperate you've got to be careful with a set of things seventy you've really gotta be careful Oh yeah absolutely I mean if night down that it's the fact that she's made it means it's threatened four her personally coming into this event I think she was really pumped for this and you know they talked about whether the pressure she's towel believe she was too too much at that tournament into preventive self that she she could perform on that stage I think she made I suspect she's probably devastated twenty shaving bad off can take years off even if it's one of those fluffy bids that look like they belong to the line into suggests that that doesn't matter to these because it's it's doesn't matter how rich you are it's no insignificant nor is the biggest amount of a fifteen year old Andy Murray transformation between Shanghai and into a just looking at downhill Medvedev and he suddenly whatever he was I think it's because he's always had what looks like a slightly receding headline but I think he's just his forehead he's never looked like a young player to me yeah but I was I was reading how severe cannon I read an interview with her today she's the second alternate so she still may end up getting to play set after she beat didn't shedding first question I can't remember the first question was in regards to the question the first thing that tumbled out of a mouth was yeah I did have my my one week ago and never again so anyway after nine Mia Sarker withdrew kicked Burton's stepped up for her eight tournaments and eight weeks and arena is remark nation played all seven weeks since the US he looks so young no US quite here he's always been next gen are you serious because he looks a lot older than twenty I mean there's another bid I'm not being bidders just if you can do it properly mm-hmm and of course doing it from a set down as well against vichy must've been thinking God maybe just having an APP with me So I think I think she wanted it she my sense I didn't watch the Hull match other you watched most of it not all of it and to me she looked a little rusty what happens when a plas slightly turns off the vowel of competitiveness through for a while and Dan Hall few weeks off and had had a good time he wasn't quite in fighting fit form to be caught on a city bt sports jj they were showing shorts of her hitting earlier on that does which is how I hit on the court and she was hat gray line but you know I've seen in the past when Albert Costa turned up at the nineteen ninety eight about that bummer flos Federa turns up once in a while doesn't he with his growth yeah and doesn't win doesn't win he's properly my vacation is started early and yet I'm still trying really hard to remember that I might have to actually play but they treat us so well she says I feel like he looked like he'd had his boat for about three weeks and he played like I mean he came out and he had to write good guy but my and she said you know I I'm here and I'm kind of waiting and trying to be as prepared as a kind of having massages all day and it's kind of like I've been that is ridiculous ridiculous and gone deep in most of them rushing to the last day issues cost played the final round Robin match against correct share and I was really looking forward to this match because you know costumer been playing well earlier in the exile but he clearly taken I would've expected I mean I I've always found alternates trying to play in the in the finals with say GPO wgn a really interesting insight into chuckling that I mean she was missing law and we always rueful about the the adjustment in cooled surface and having to until now the total of the next gen shaved it off suddenly extreme fetters having a word with these young players Ause I alternate stories Kiki buttons came out and looked a little rusty for the first forty five minutes build a to that much the odds with family and I was getting your life text updates on on this and various other subjects and suddenly you just said Bossi's fall in there's against me might Alex correct you like the biggest hitter the you've ever seen you live encourage you just knocked him off the goal fairly amusing anyways live back there and it was Henman managed to qualify I think alongside Alex Corretja or call us more or someone like that and reside ski didn't quite make it but charming these adjustments so quickly and she was she had a sort of put I'm just GonNa give this ago and see what happens type look on Hi this is on about seventy six matches for the year so far now maybe more than that but yeah she's she came out and out of nowhere against a really I mean obviously keep keep buttons grew in her comfort levels right here and look to the score again it's one set all it's to all in the third and then things went quickly quite quickly after yes which be one of those quirks of the round-robin system because party is never played this event before I know she played round robin she never refound it till she had Craig Tyzzer on court he was going into detail about serving ATP finals and he was the second alternate into I alternate embers Gregory's Ed's crew who took the place of can't remember who maybe Marcelo Rios after one round in how quickly to get away from her and you wait you're just waiting for it to get it back in it never came sort of a just a bizarre crisis of confidence mid match in June last year and you know she only just about qualified and then she then she ended up winning the thing but just mentally seems to me that the immediate jeopardy I may be putting too much stock in in this for fresh party maybe nothing to do he won with break forty fifteen really yeah wow and because like I say I watched watching a few points and I had to go and do a few Eh but I've seen matches which don't feel quite quite right over the years in the round-robin stage is because there is no jeopardy on them weeks in a row but nonetheless but he had a she had a she should've away I mean not scoreline let's just look at the school and I thought she when the first six three she was one of think she was one of the second set it not being life and death I just I've thought about this before how do you play tennis when you've got mass go ahead and to take away the as well but he made possible yeah he he beat Tim Henman's a Henman's third match there's a big deal backlit Britain nine hundred ninety eight you can imagine what it is so I hope somebody provides it has an alternate at a finals ever got to the semi final stages before because I I cannot remember sh she was rushing and I thinking and picking the wrong show it was just a total speech tens is great sc to have but I didn't know what happens bossy pleased I asked me to analyze what happened to us yeah yeah she's such an incredible physical specimen that she does get stronger as much as on the matter she's played the last ten now we're in a situation where Burton's wins next match she is in the semi-finals she could end up winning the whole thing and I can't remember anybody in the fund rhythm on serve but it was moved I mean her serve did sort of deserted it was moved out her forehand desert to turn it was quite lonely but then how do you count for playing so well for setting a bit what went off did you did you get a sense I mean her four hundred it is sexy it is enhancing my audio experience it's all the good things sons dot com calls ever having a real chance of winning it I remember David Farrar coming in and playing a really good match a few years ago when we were having all those strikes anybody doing it and like I said I remember his key into matches I know that I was reading in some nights earlier that twice the alternate search for the last ten years the WNBA finals has come in and play matches and I think a couple of times in each one of them but they didn't get to the knockout stages and because it was bizarre really zone for Mashburn Hidden I what she does with craters when she sits down and analyzes that because it must feel it's quite joy in that yeah can imagine her gritting through either sandpaper going whatever just gonNA stick around on the base walkovers neat by the three center but you know he didn't have a chance to win it it was just a chance to play a match wheeled out the entertainment all right now keep POW powering the shots are you with loads topspin on them so we're we're actually faced I'd love to know this stats if anybody out there has got this very alarming to know that you know you'll you'll powers can just desert e the flick do think it's one it could in sports he said you gotta go t t I guess me too yeah it was encouraging her to to do that in order to try and regain her match and resides came one went in one two round-robin matches and was unable to qualify style because the others all over the place collapse of confidence and I I mean I know that must be exhausted based by the fact that you you you looking down the end San opponent you've seen nothing she keeps you keep Burton's regardless of Amherst Tennessee's played jet line cheese see nothing I could imagine we really went off and Craig toys as a site cray toys was really focusing on the serve and a service rhythm going and yes to serve did it but it also I'm in trouble here when the Senate to me told me that two minutes and basically suddenly in a tennis match yeah you're ti minute gate so this sonus beep Catherine that we both had delivered a matt's got one as well I couldn't believe how easy it was to set up because you know what I'm GonNa have to attend holidays and we're here so I'm GonNa go to the mall it was so different yesterday in the second match between and rescue and hallowed all the way through that I found that just to be a joyous match it was the Kiki plays free an ends up winning at all yeah definitely could happen help doesn't rewards the big hitters hitting well this if you if you hit great groundstrokes in a Isao of weird when Kosova who can still qualify even though she's lost both matches so she is now going to play against his taken over a song position she plays bench `age Ryan having tainting it's for her credit card in eastern don't like with service sue slow it it doesn't experience but yeah bench ended up winning six three one six six four and so these in so much better than it was today bench Kavita famous vittore soccer which was it was better kavita soccer them benches I'm just clinging on for dear life thinking am I missing something this ought to be better than as but I just had a slight feeling of anxiety through can I just love the way they were both yeah they'd stick Anna Fangs into the match you know there were really relishing every second of it and and I kind of feel that maybe Burton's felt like that once she found her feet you know she was really loving the recommendations for I'm watching Boston legal and it's really good you foregoing succession to watch a D consortium as well I have a friend on TAP SANTA'S DOT COM yeah so it's quiet is to win in straight sets and various other things go away but you know it's I was concert I can't say it attorney you find a way for at in an age

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WTA Finals - Preview and Predictions

The Tennis Podcast

34:43 min | 1 year ago

WTA Finals - Preview and Predictions

"Editon is podcast listeners is at one month since Katherine Matt and Myself Got Ta sooners beams delivered mass now has a TV thankfully against the US is quite useful having a TV to go with the sinus but yes yeah what about the Oh it is sleep I'm Andy Murray and you're listening to the tennis podcast win the WTI finals and you might be drinking Tequila with gold bits in it anyway eagle that right so let's have a look at the draw first of all we got lots to talk about today finals daily podcasts genuine accident we are wearing hoodies folks I'm a mid forties man in my Hoodie and aw the WNBA finals which start on Sunday in UK it's going to be live on bt sport I'm going to be talking about it and watching it which is going to be great fun for me anyway into see a check like that for the year end tournament for the women I wasn't expecting that question yes ain't pretty thank goodness this is audio only well the good news is that we have had the draws made today eight singles players eight doubles play I mean it's grotesque amounts of money isn't it but professional sports sort of is so I miss yeah the mall we've got four point seven million dollars check to give out to somebody going undefeated so Matt Roberts says plank he beginning that Ella that has gold specs in it really oh okay so you'd Mia APL people but but he's not and there are eight players that may win that sum of money which is double what anybody's ever won before this tournament the more dollars the merrier great I mean it it's it is obscene but why not you know the IMF pound why not be super deeper obscene how many beers could I buy with that I mean I could be too busy law for the rest are we going off we're going off track here this is another type of with whiskey that has like gold leaf goes it too key of my life on that more than two I think but I couldn't handle that so that wouldn't happen Hi I'm John McEnroe Joan board this is Martina Navratilova Amass philander. I'm stunned rowing this is Mary Carillo Oh cripes keep putting me on this but I was still giggling gold schlager draws we got the order play I've got other topics as well that they know nothing about and I can't wait to get into them and see the look on their faces but first of all let's look at the drawers is we have Shenzhen hosting the tournament for the first time they've got ten years day I'm going to be fifty six when and she's the name of the the SCHNAPS IT turns out fifty three point five percent alcohol spend he's counting a push covered Simona Halep Bianca and rescue an Alina Selena right pick your semi fine folks Catherine it's nearly double what the blocks are going to earn the equivalent events at the ATP finals at the two in a few weeks time Catherine are you pleased up for a full Matt Dan I come on man to make fun of himself I oh and we hear we do in dailies we're doing dailies folks how'd you do that we've accidentally wound uniform throw I W okay I will go with numerous alka and but in the bench preface my comments in this podcast with I haven't got a clue what's going to happen in Shanzen but I think it's going to be really good but that's all prefacing it's ending the podcast that I kind of I kind of feel like anyone who really says we confidence that they know what's going to happen lying because it is so open I'm beyond rescue and misfit Selena who they see conviction the largest has anybody as as any known person said that I think David might be about to go on then could Dante Hill she's seen pitches of Darren along side her hitting on the apparently slow court if it slower that should okay so I'm going to go for Andrew Ascii 'cause she's never lost anyone Alina and red grape bhatia soccer convertible Selena that should be benched Lina great surprise surprise and I'm GonNa go full how she's discovers said it's slow right that sounds like a winge doesn't it sounds like a very risky thing Donna Wilkes and live tennis for this beautifully crafted table head-to-heads which is just rookie my world right now uh-huh finals it's Friday night we now had a party it's Catherine which gets Matt Roett Says Myself David to the surface is like three I've picked benches to win the thing have I did I do that yes I think I did do that can I retract my my praise for the day tournament is not getting out the group what I did say benches tonight on hang on a soccer and but he just come for bank chicks is this year the benches beaten the soccer three times she she ended her US Open title defense aw that's just a high already for that moments allied going to second to bench isn't in either of the table when you need them Hannah Popo group push giver and Rescue Lips and also be too I was a study I think in Madrid and maybe in doing well as well so and Belinda bench never play variety heaven isn't it party against shake how was that never happened so you may maybe not for you right in the red group is Ash Bharti Patrick Evita Naomi Asaka and Belinda bench in the Purple Group. It zero wouldn't have expected that you've got conservative sevens fit Selena to you've got pushed over five SF Italina three eight people split into two groups for resolved solved a problem for all of us there doubled up oh welcome yeah twenty she's she's never played escape well she hasn't that's it's just a name type day eight day leave okay wait imagine what which at play there because of their Romanian the Romanian heritage of and rescue and the way when she won the US Open Each year ten K. for bench and assault and whichever too I said for the other group and rescues it's GonNa be quite interested to see we haven't seen her play anybody yet and be intimidated or seemingly second guessing it's interesting with lopsided head-to-heads when it gets too lopsided I think there's a tipping point I guess to upside and his dull at you know what's going to happen suit a well see yeah okay I'm GonNa go for undress hype and I'm GonNa go for with major thanks to trying to show off about their ostentatious wealth Roy because in it sometimes you gotTa Lena Lena There's the carrot that dangles before you witnessed yeah head-to-heads I love looking at the slightly weird head-to-heads that Renault's tables and you got a five nope was right in a corner you know she was immediately celebrating that as a Romanian victory as well as an Android GonNa Canadian victory that that is at the early stages of the sort of lopsided has had rivalries it's really interesting because you're thinking can they finally figured it out which is kind of what you've got with Medvedev and sit surpass at the moment really well to that and I'm also not sure how fei how his she's she pulled out of was it wou- ham with a back injury mid match I think wait seven mill on Well I'm just thinking about Gold Schlager Matt St want to want to the semi finalists question I was going to Asanka just hasn't been able to figure out at all so I do think that match weeks we're GONNA see in groups to issues where we absolutely fascinating I think it Eddie part of of Andros Q. in in her outlook as well as you know she genuinely feels I think both nationalities and Halid Reut okay great so I was worried about how we gonNA fill half an hour with chat about approach later by Taylor Townsend and how that was out but yeah I think I think Andrea will respond thing can I just wonder whether that that element of it might have affected to play at all I mean we haven't seen it yet maybe it would be surprised I that's the first match in that group Well for those two players they played show the I think that that is probably the match I'm looking forward to most because I I think it makes it more interesting all of us but I don't think on the court it Lim- pats began risky one bit what do you think a. and yet Switzerland has won the last three of them and ended up winning the title on all three occasions I mean I've turned into Matt this is good in her way through the field like a piranha in a dentist's fish tank he said she has more shots than Tequila bar is that was that Andreescu or something else onto my brain David you I remember trying to work out with a Catherine was more excited he's born legends gradually clear the stage the most successful inheritors maybe those who move friction Leslie through this peculiar lifestyle I and I think ASARCO and benches the standout one on the women's tour the moment also Halup has got a losing record against anyone in the drawer so I'm not sure about how fish actually as whereas Andress Goo hasn't played a great deal of rested herself a little bit since the US Open she lost that match two Asarco but deploys them with the easy confidence of a young Roger Federer any mention of post-coital cigarette not yet however haven't finished from Simon Briggs who incidentally sounded like he was on half speed the other day when he was on the podcast of the first few seconds he sounded like he genuine tasting little energy other than what they burn on the court we can see it with Andress Goo as well as with the most successful male challenger of the year Daniel Medvedev it's a bird it's your federal rare Serena Sharapova Santoro is center but then gadget her masonic self-belief offers a point of difference from other young players in Shenzhen Nine thousand nine hundred exists outlook on life but you know how high he was that day was talking about her in New York when he was like check me out remember that about Simon Briggs is general outlook on life that date or Daniel Medvedev generally the USO definitely a flip of the coin. Anyway listen listen to this ever and I will pick and rescue and Hallett yeah I think to win it I will go yeah you got seven please give it three I love these headsets and I think I've really interesting one for the group stages about Bianca and rescue in his column today and I picked task few lines I mean what is about undress skew what she does to Simon Uh anything anything you have to do I need to I how is Ashburton Belinda bench never played that is how Lena's fit lean and I always find interesting dynamic when a player has the couple Davis Cup to come after the season ending finals and woken up however here he this is how he writes says about Andro skew if she carries on like this Shinzan she will choose for me I've I'm thinking there's no reason why party Com win both probably but I think she really really wants to win the Fed Cup and that might be her priority for the rest of the end of the season if she if she was having to kind of pick I think she will necessarily but yeah I don't know for thirty I think Bharti's interesting because most players this is the end of the season but obviously she still has the Fed Cup right okay well informed the semifinals aren't GonNa Pick Ashkenazi and picture it is sexy it is enhancing my audio experience it's all the good things sons dot com I could say the freshness element is is a big one because she did look so tired in Beijing when I saw a few weeks ago Hashtag Andress q fam Simon Briggs fully paid up member yes and he's wondering whether SCR Piranhas T- think Coco's made the trip to Shenzhen Koshien she'll what I'm not sure what the quarantine either it was a match that was that was likely to happen at the US Open I think they were drawn to meet in the fourth round but then was one hundred and five she's had a bit of time off since then but it does it does concern me on the hard to half of some players but equally I think they're all going to be so pumped Lazar in China and and if coke is not there is coca the source of we'll have powers touched that dog and just great I'm not sure that was really any calls for long I think she'll pick up where she's she's been season rarely just beating everyone Simon Briggs has written doc is pretty cool so right game for who've you got from his it's not in the red group yeah however okay so Selena going through to get benches should now standby who've you undress good the rest of the locker room but we would be worried as to whether she's brought her Superhero Cape I'm just wondering what the dentist for this there I think all these players are going to be up for this if he can't get up four point seven million dollars days then you should go and work it out of a nap before point seven million dollars is on the line I would consider counselling and that is what David Law thinks if my opinion you typically armed yes not minute gateway to tennis watching Heaven and also how turn up and you go get the APP I think he's from Belgium and those a story last year I think that mertens and Cher were going to split Okay and then Bharti against bench I think I've backed myself into a very bench itchy corner Sir and Jank teams in the red and the purple groups and all starts on Sunday at I think I'd go italina Sicily already hearing grumblings about the court and address against Howard which I think just Asaka so okay Australian Open final repeat for the first match Recall yeah yeah so this Sinus beep Catherine that we both had delivered a Matt Scott One as well I couldn't believe how easy it was to set up because you know what four thirty local time which in the UK I think is about eight thirty in the morning with a soccer against virtus winning that Alexa Google Assistance Phillies instructions which friends don't always day yeah so basically you WanNa get yourself being if you are great sound some it's really easy to set out red group with Chan so how Ching Chan and Letitia chance the fifth-seeds and analytic Grunfeld and Demi Shir a couple of points important talking point from last week in a really feel we need to give this just a little bit of attention which broken bone Portland time and they can end up wonky very easily just still recovering from a broken finger shined double Indian Wells and Miami Tomato Babo she's won the title last two years is playing with Kristen Mladenovic they're the defending champion so those two teams south watering isn't it under Sqi never pick against address key wondering holler right tehnology also I'm in trouble here when the sent it to me something that two minutes and basically suddenly in a tennis match take advantage party in their first ever meeting then a Monday than this tip those matches in the afternoon there and then a Monday push cover against Italina in the doubles at least Mertens and arena sabal anchors the top seeds and they have been playing unbelievably well they won the US Open does didn't they and they also when the sun eight because mertens didn't WanNa play doubles anymore apparently and then she goes and gets a different partner and wins everything where have I heard that before in a medical professional would be able to tell you in a heartbeat we got a lot of replace subjective thing couture said collarbone susie said I I- invoked feedback from medical professionals imperfect knowledge at the moment I want and something that you can talk to as well have a friend on TAP DOT COM right pens on the break to be honest helpful thanks Julie says collarbone none of these appear to be in any way medical professionals and finger can hey okay well Robin Daniels friend of the podcast says for the record you elected to break you'll it'll turn the latest pod let me strongly advise you not to I broke mine in the pain level was off scale agony is the word so I think that probably priced to any broken bone doesn't it I mean it's all relative here twelve years ago but we have another on the tennis podcast we've had on there it it doesn't count it's not ratified now it is apparently very funny this time so shy away bobble restrictive what a doubles partner that ship that is shared all Delis says little toe providing you can rest it it will heal the quickest I don't think that's true actually I think fingers and toes it can and it's we sort of about eight weeks hence now and it looks a bit sort of Waikiki pery the and St Saviour of playing together in the public rape the Brodsky and zoo and then Cova and Senio cover and stowed okay have you come up with one or are you going to I always thought the answer was called Abon right thank you matt they get the APP and then you just talk to the APP if you have any friends saw you just don't know that that's right because this thing works with Alexa uh-huh yeah did you say did you say that now nobody happened right I would so depths at some getting myself out of trouble with my physical ability so what it was the same Basilan Vienna this week and Friday night again did you did you say that it's very frisky frisky frisky Fritz uh-huh ju just feel with the things we've had Basel 'cause look things have broken they none never the The news was just inept achieved facial would you like to have if you have to have is a story line we were having in last week show turns to this Catherine went for collarbone I went for Little Broken B-a-e-n what Neither v Via Burkan Anything Berkman News Right uh-huh right we're going to be better tomorrow I'm telling you we're going to be really good always long but they're lost Taylor Fritz against and Cowan a move over against hi as well which I the first couple of days off for bt Sport I was is funny tournaments where you see somebody just put in an bombed storming win I find it really hard to get into I thought I thought last I thought the switch in the calendar to moving it before the finals would All the difference but I just I find the narrative of that tournament quite hard for the narrative narrative stuff and the other thing is these three person groups there are four groups of three players and so like I say last year you get Ash Party winning one losing one and getting through to the also was the the other tournament I want to talk about which was stop laughing which was losing to restore amusing winning the title Arena Linka who beat her in the round-robin didn't even make the semis why doesn't it just have the exact same former in the first round robin stage and you are sure they're going to win the whole thing and that was me with Dina your stress go and then she she went and lost to kick your buttons and she was out Burton's and Zhang and several inca very important I mean how do you how do you feel about zoo highs the tournament curry ron any any wicketkeeper in cricket you see evidence of how poorly taste I'll turn the microphones off my colleagues here because they're just not playing ball whatsoever right semifinal position high is keeper in a bit of an afterthought anyway which of course is the main thing is it's just this this format I they I think you're right I think just matched Tayfun was it should be you right the league it should be the exact same for months just won t down Yeah I didn't get it I didn't get what twelve players I I it was in Jim School now hit it on a bench right okay why am I laughing already but I mean come lead you've never up you don't WanNa be constantly thinking who's through and why it's just it's frustrating real there was a match today where around will be and obviously the only events where you play round robin but I kind of felt that springboard effect is just a natural consequence and is having a huge impact on that on the course of their career is I don't know I just it's it's an interesting field there's some interesting didn't get what full groups agree with those expecting to get a lot more into it as a result of the shift in the calendar is on paper I like the concept if the fact that these are the players ranked nine to eighteen most of them are probably a kind of on the APP anyway and it doesn't it doesn't feel like this tournament why is who had good seasons I just find it really difficult tournament to get my teeth into yeah yeah I mean it's it feels a bit like it's still something not quite right it still needs a Lotta Lotta tweaking there is that kind of springboard element of can act as a springboard for you the next snee- and so what was wrong with rancor he had to pull out yeah he hurt his back in I think he said in the final game against CFO last night Rinku withdrew kind of five minutes after winning the Mac she needed to get through and kind of twenty four hours before the Max she kind of wondering whether they could come up with some kind of solution for the crowd the next day they did anything extra ron in terms of an exhibition but yeah that

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The US Open Catch-Up show with Joel & Kim: Round 4 - Serena takes revenge on Sakkari; Is Thiem ready to seize his moment?; Pironkova continues dream run; Is Zverev ready to make most of Djokovic demise?; Brady + Rogers upset slam champs Kerber + Kvitova

"Hello Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to the Passing Shot Tennis Picasso by Fans I'm told came and today we are taking in all of the events so far from round four. The US? Open. Take your seats. Thank you. Came we are twenty four hours old and from probably one of the best dramatic moments. In recent history in tennis the how. Novak Djokovic situation I think reflecting day I. Think it was quite funny about it is i. think everyone was kind of got the actually other tennis was going on at the same time. This dramatic situation was voting. I know poor old shelby roaches she. Say. Much. Points to be giver and just go forgot about because of the often mall of Djokovic Shiva Default Gate. But yeah any distance you haven't already listen Dole delve more into all take on what happened. Yesterday we did record a special kind of emergency say perhaps Guy Nixon to that I if you haven't done so. But Yeah I. Mean I think it hasn't been much schrader about day has that Joe? The incident is kind of people leaving. All right. He say because there's no point dwelling too much on it. Now a we've just got to think about what tennis we've got. What's left in the drawer and what's GonNa Happen in the second week? Yeah I mean, what's what's done is done anything I was kind of reflecting on just didn't think I think. The more I thought about it, it wasn't a good look for him to try to negotiate an plea on the call. And the fact that he wasn't wearing a face boss as well I think I. See Things I was reflecting on I think overnight while like trying to get to sleep. But like every of tennis fan was not able to get to sleep and but yeah, I mean what's done is done he's come out on instagram he's put out A. Press release you know he's admitted. He's apologized. I. Think we all kind of want to move onto this from the situation you know no lease. Right now, we still go. You know we still got the ten. You know we still got tennis to play with hunger quarterfinals onwards to play and. Yeah let's start. Let's let's on the women's side. Actually because you know we have both been today watching a bit of Serena Williams Verses Maria Cari a rematch from when Sakari beat Serena Williams actually in Cincinnati. I was kind of getting into the match thinking you know how much tremendously can Williams ton this around? Against you know in the space of a week. Say but I mean she was able to get the job done. I. Mean Again, it was a very good fair. Match Sakari was playing her own brand of fearless tennis but Yes. Serena was able to come through this time and I think maybe it shows the as a game. You know grandmoms are completely different base to. WTI Premiere events in Serena Williams's a different base when it comes to Graham slams and you know maybe with this Sakari match, you know she's starting she starting to prove that on. Because up until this I. Feel a bit kind of stop start didn't. I was I was wondering if If, it was going to gay the way that it when that previous much. But I thought this time around Serena would would have an answer I thought she surely she called you know being the same position set up against the car and Have close second set and then lose it again. But scurry went a break up in the third-set. She cheated of ops arena clawed away back and then it was very close They basically while it. But I just feel that Serena wasn't going to let it go this time and she's also my called finals in the collector set. So I I needed her. Maria Joe. A I. Mean it didn't quite die. T one point I just said she was too down in in the sunset and you did wonder Oh, is this going to go the way? Of Sakari because this is sad she she didn't like she was overawed by the occasion of playing someone like Serena Williams on core and I think that's to be expected to you. She beat the the the week before I didn't think that you know she's a very exciting player and I think that she's got great potential because she plays his sort of Phyllis brand of tennis. So the whoever is I only the other side of the cool. She just kind of plays her game and I think a very aggressive game and Yeah, I think Serena I think definitely was kind of pushed I think to the to the limit I. Remember you know at the very sad that I mean she was panting heavily. You know on camera. You could actually here on the the microphones. You know she was being run ragged points in that match. You know I think it's kind of you know we talk about Serena she really had an easy ride so far love three-set match isn't gain today I. Think actually it it just shows you that Serena Williams. She's such physical specimen in terms of fitness and she really needed that today a digging deep in in that third set. Yeah like you could tell that she's not quite. Obviously. Not where she she has been in the past I, she did seem like you know have movement does seem. Step slow to me and. Against another player say I'm not sure if it would have gone the way of Serena Sakari. Yes. She wasn't ready phased and probably help import. The chief has recently beaten up but I still have question marks able whether Sakari when it comes to like the big stage is going to be a player who will actually. pull out. Big. Wins like. Round. OFF AROUND I take know I still for me something lacking there though such. A we disagree on this Joe. Well I see. Sakari. I've certainly see her i. mean for me I tell you see winning grand slams say I, didn't see her she might get one but I did see her winning loads or slams. Yeah. I was going to talk about I mean where do you see of Sakari of ranking going? Do you think she's Wti I mean top ten top top five More in the in the top five bracket based on. The tennis today she's obviously still improving and. Phase by these situations for me shows I think she's got the. The application. Will on the right mindset when it comes onto tennis court to. Really. Of Challenge I think in the call of Con- Joe? Contest Space I. Think. But Yeah I think she sits she certainly could go kind top five maybe more in the reckon spit. I was just about to say her name, the semi getting to the Courtesan Semis, but perhaps never gang the full pedal. But you do. She's very young. She has a long career had. Hatefully so Early, days really. But Serena will be playing either Perenco Konate in the final their own call. Now, they're in the Fed set like with seven at trump is just breaking back. So I think either of those prize. I think Serena. Tricky players but I think CERITA given. The fact that she's come through you loss she's away through. I think she's going to roll role I. Think she'll come through whoever it will be in the cold final say than the real hard work from the semi's thing she she's just finding a way to win ugly at the moment and I think that is if there is if is one is a true equality I think Grand Slam champion is just kind of get through your matches and she's just showing he's able to do that whether that's against Saint Stephen's. In this match against Sakari, she's finding just digging deep and finding ways win and. I. Think the question is, when is that GONNA run out? A Yeah I is that going to run out against someone. impactful because I think they're all of the players in the draw who are in better for men and kind of let me home because. We were talking about shelby, Rogers. Leasing to give it to the. And she you know we have to apologize there because shall roaches fantastic. I mean saving four match point winning in a third. Match tiebreak in the third set against you know someone of the Pedigree and caliber over Patrick Evita I mean that was a fantastic fantastic winter given you know. The season I think she was absolutely no way I think I was. Reading back story in the fact that you know she'd been suffering. Knee knee injury and chat to take on a year off and she was I almost album outside the top two hundred or thereabouts Stasi year. I mean to be in a quarter finals after beating Grand Slam champion like Vita I mean. That's very impressive. She's had her hardships for sure and it's all the more sweeter. She's at this moment now and obviously she beat Serena didn't she in Lexington I think it was and I kinda thought that was just a fleet Serena, but we threw way. and. Therefore, I think when I saw this matchup with Roy was just thinking I guess I can be underestimated show we rogers to be honest and that was the one that. would be the that but learn behold there we gay she's in school to final and play to her like she tasty. Deserves it. She fought her way three that much and I would have to save more over stable the shenanigans. It was a great day. We'll see it wasn't a great day. Was it to be a grad some champion because Jennifer, Brady as well who I think for me not that Paul has probably looked I mean she crushing at the moment she has. Inform play 'em potentially outside of a soccer in you know maybe lease margins but. She looked very good very accomplished against cub. I mean that fess at six one I remember off as the APP and so the. She she'd give it a breadstick to to cub. I was very I was very surprised by that because covers let get this tournament. Brady just seems to be. She's just seems to be on a plane on another level at the moment and. I. Don't think there are actually many players left in the drawer here are who are at that level I. Don't think I don't think Serena. Williams's that name. You saw Chris probably that but. I feel like Brady and a soccer that probably the front runners at the moment. Yeah. Brady was say-say gauge. Against Koerber like she just. The curve clawed her way back in the seconds. That was really really good because it was very competitive but like I'd never felt that Brady was ready in in that much danger I just I I have conviction in her head mental strength and she just seem so solid and the fact that she's literally one nine nine. If I lost ten matches in all in straight-sets, she's not even been taken to like seven five. Or tiebreaking any of these matches in any of as much she's won so. Like when she's up, she's she doesn't let it it go. She's she's going to be yeah, I mean I'm really intrigued expect her to come through against petitions of a WHO is in scoresheet patrimony, which in three sets a that's been up and down much but. You Talk Xactly We knew how sort of fiery fitness into convey. She gets very works apple goal sometimes, and you know she is. Certainly. One wanted to watch for perhaps. Sorts raising sometimes. But she absolutely has has heff schools final petrobaltic was the eighth seed in Baynes progressing through. The I expect Brady will will come through that much and I'm expecting a brady a soccer semi final in in the runoff. In. A couple of days time to be honest. Yeah I mean that would be I. Think the the smart money is just a word on a pittance phobia because she paid her. It wasn't very kind of Topsy Turvy Topsy Turvy match in that qualify mean she won. Quite a lengthy battle two hours, thirty, seven minutes, six four in the third I think this is a third time she reached a grand time cooled final but first time on a hardcore, the two of those were. The French Open So yeah I mean she she's she's doing well and kind of progressing but I don't think anyone. I mean I don't think anyone is expecting to go beyond beyond the quarterfinals. She's done very well. As. You know she's a very well to get this fall takeout. You're the AFC didn't traumatic. But you just feel that bright you just you just feel Brady and the form that she's in feel like she's just GonNa blow away anyone who's on the court with except us. All I. Tell you think Brady would blow a soccer away all. She might come up a bit up against a bit of a a you give out against nets cultivate but actually it was a bit underwhelming in the end. It was I think six, three, six full. Concentrate. Never really go go firing on. So that was a bit disappointing i. felt like that much could have given us more but said, yeah, soccer was. Speedy Gonzales she came through. The Job John She's she's bathing. She's been fanny. Silently progressing she she's I think she's I think us orcas probably looking I would say the most likely from that top to make the fight I'm not sure if Brady would be soaker but. Yeah. Fisher will vary see how how Brady at she can fair. Interestingly, the I feel like the media. Talking. Branding I. Think I saw as the favor I'm not sure. I'm not sure if our listeners agree with that. But interestingly, she said her record against Shabby Rogers who she pays next in the quarter-finals is now a good one she's not beaten her. Granted, they haven't played each other I, think hidden three or so years but kind of pace match press conference he kind of talked about the fact that she's going to go into the match and seeing herself as the underdog. which I thought was kind of interesting because I think I talk. I think ASAKA likes to create this idea. No matter how ridiculous it might feel. That like she's the she's the underdog. We know that she has that sort of introver- Quirky of personality and. But I think it's ridiculous to say like I know she might not have beaten her before but that was three years ago when she was kind of via. So I, just think Maybe she's just she knows that if she puts the pressure on herself or she feels like she's the overwhelming favourite year, we saw after she wanted her cheese Lam's that she did struggled to cope with that but Manitou. Why she would want to have mind see has office. Oh nothing. She's not fooling escaping. K I mean yeah, it's look very much looking forward to that, and then I mean Gosh we recording this Joe Kuiper for still going, and then we've got as a rank of a later as well as merchants cannon. Say. They're still two amazing matches still to come in the fourth round and one still to finish his as we're recording this I'm expecting into come through. Idol say if the edge to ask. The rancor. But. I'm not wanting to make predictions. Shelby. Could go either way and I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised as. Martin's is one of the you know one of the most informed player's. Post Post lockdown where as a rancor one CINCINATI macabre as well has been very fine. cheese expected. You know I'm expecting big things for similar to. Always, kind of similar to to carry them. You know I it's it's Oh. It's all to play for in the fact that Kerber and. Sorry Kerber for out. It just gives a sense that maybe it could be another opportunity for first time slam champion. I know kind of Azariah Priscilla in. A cycle of cool is still in it does feel like our in as well. But it does feel like there is a potential HICFA for a first time stam champion absolutely and. We've all say oversee. On the men's side as well as we now navy golden. So to play for. Possible. Really. That kind of waste anyone could win. I. Mean. I know if Alex Manure who is going to? Be condemned. Up. We'll we'll row with. He's still got a child's. Whereas you want to start with the men I mean how? Okay. So. straight-sets that. Routine Christ him though. Yeah I think we should stop cave without the. Literally, Jock, itch got devoted came out and said well now now it's interesting and I think I think that's how everyone should be looking at this draw because there is no. Theranos you know there are no threats. There is. No there is. There is no. Previous Grand Slam champion the best we've got dominate team who I think's been in what three Grand Slam finals everyone will be thinking. They've got an opportunity here Alex. As we speak about yesterday, he you would would feel he has the biggest. Platform. Biggest moment to seize in that top off the fat the passes out Jovovich out he's looked. Very good only served to oppose reiterate that. Two double-faults it is It is for our match Sergei. He's he's looking very decent if you can keep the forehand down, I think he's going to be it should I mean? I'd like to think it should be paying sailing him to get to to get to the final. Yeah. Mean that Fourth of very again studied Vicini it was. Yeah very very straightforward I. think Dovish Fakih No was struggling with an injury. Especially in the law set because he ended up stirring underarm. So because it ain't thinking, he could actually manage a normal one but Yeah it was very very. Fit Very of and I think he's he's born encourage next who came through Jordan Thompson. which was probably the research that we would have expected from that much courage. Interestingly, how he does hold a winning record against but I mean just based on. Experience at this level of grab. It reaches semi's at the a ago. But other than that you know isn't got an awful lot of experience at this stage, but I would it would give the edge. He's also played I think less tennis. So he's fresher. This week say. Then, the other the other corner that we've got coming up would be PCP oversee. The, lucky and the. Banished progress. Thanks. Thanks to nave axe defoe. CHIAPPA valve say ego shock valid for that one really have any he's playing really well. Oh. Yeah. Definitely. I think shop valve is he's he's doing it for Canada. He's lost. Lost Canadian in Pospisil lost rather meekly today. To demure say. CHIAPPA valve is ready to kind of I think he's ready to go to that. I think in his head, he will be looking to go to that sort of banker on rescue level of You know platform fit Canadian tennis because I think he still has the opportunity to kind of go through the gays and. Yeah although I do I do. Say That we've go. FAA? Blake wt by the Bobin. abt Mrs set and a break up. So I think that's going to be the match that many were very excited about I mean I wouldn't sa to I wouldn't. It's a classic that much. Day I I think that would be A. five-set between them to be amazing. But I don't show about FAA whether he doesn't have the experience really at this level and team I think is stepping up with each round that he's paying. He's stepping up notch and. Maybe, now that he knows it Novak is our as well. He's like extra kind of. And adjoins I that because he's in pretty good safe all today. But. It's early. Yeah because it was interesting Gza on the on the prime coverage Jim, Carrey was saying. Dominate team it will be all eyes on him in terms of how we. React situation the fact the he is now the favourite. And that's you know that's the situation he's. Never been in before and. We feel like this is A. kind of like a roach federal situation at. The French Open when You Know Nidal, lost to so delaying in the door. To Federa. Just don't make team. Will he feel that sort of pressure in the sense the? People will probably be looking at him and thinking dominant team. This is this is you will lose. Yeah, I think A. person that could beat team like would be Medvedev in the semifinals just based on Medvedev's performance last year. I think if it was say teams verify new I'd I'd give the edge team for sure because you know he's had three three slam volumes already say that's to count for something. So yeah. Team is probably going to be the most obese unlikely handed it but. I really day I mean what if something random happens and? We've seen something crazy happened yesterday. There is a whole host of possibilities could still unfold. The next week say. We shall say. I think he'll come through against FAA actually fairly play which is shame because you would have liked a would like that much to to be an epic. Literally world watching the start of it dominate teams. Return positions on. CBS' of. It was like it was. Yeah. It was like if it was decided that he would have been breaking out the Durham serves. For sure because I mean he was like literally off the TV camera but Yeah I mean he he has been he has looked very good. He's I. Think. He's impressive. Actually he's been able to kind of shut out that you know that horror show that he had in Cincinnati against Cranach and been able to put this. Together. Because yeah he definitely is living living up to the billing. I mean looking at kind of the other four matches the still to be played Bertini. T.F Medvedev. Bertini, rebirth, of kind of been. Going through the jewel, really all anyone's radar. To Cut A. Of A. Bertini actually is dropped to set yet. And it's suicide you quite cruel that we'd already talked about because I mean he is. And? He's the semi finals. Crazy crazy. We even. Awfully Favorite do you think of what? I am actually but then Bertini technically technically should be given more. Share and she's higher ranked but. Yeah. Isn't it funny how we gravitate towards like a couple of names and then it so easy to overlook all the candidates and much. Much. Do all sort of problem rainy because. We then get a surprise, but maybe it's not really surprised if we were looking more closely everyone. But if that's the thing, say much happening at Grand, slam as hall to watch everyone and keep up to date with everything. As it happens. But yeah, without still I still. Happening later. T.F. Oh I expect method Medvedev will come through that one margate four sets and. Then just the night on the doubles we had Jamie, Murray Noski losing today in Fino. Against Povich and Suarez. So that's a bit of frustration. fans but we do have Jason Spray in the semi's already say fingers crossed Ooh hypes now J. from a British perspective and then at St Joe. Breaking News has just wild and say she's just well against Gournay six three in the third. So she'll be thanks the reason. She is. Yeah she said. I mean I would love to see her like witness la I'm can you imagine war story that are bae I tournament bag? Threes out and wins a slow have. That would just be. I mean I, find it. So you know inspiring I guess the we've got like mom versus mum in Y- finally, Grand Slam and. I don't know have. We ever had I mean when was the last time we had a versus? Ladies Grand Slam final. That would be really I mean that would be really cool today just it's just something that I think is really interesting because you know as we kind of talked about it wasn't really tennis was really on her. Radar. And the fact that you know the wj sort of kind of changed up there approach kind of the ranking system. To accommodate mums. Better It, kind of. Set to. Okay. I'm gonNA play now so. It's great to kind of see these kind of match ups and see. See where it takes us because. Yeah I find it. It's something. I. Think is a dynamic on the the we already talked about I think. As much I think over the last. Decade or so it's I think it's been a bit more sort of focusing on the young and up and coming players but the mumps should have their spotlight came and Serena is Perot. I mean, that's going to be a fantastic I think that's gonNa be a fantastic advocate for. What what tennis players are and what they you know what they can what they can achieve Well I think. Either the three years hours for glee giving her A. Time off as well to certify of see she had a child but say. If you burn out often many is on the tour is probably she quite refreshing to then come back you all through a bit of time off and have another crack of the dice and I think she said, didn't it in an interview? She said, you know I may have had a baby, but I haven't forgotten house play tennis at the end of the day that doesn't dissipate as say she's got the fitness in everything back. then. I didn't see any reason why? Because you've got a child you call. You perform well and win slabs. Blimey may stopping me. But yeah, I'm very intrigued by the that much I. think that's going to be my pick of the the court is to be honest I've I, liked for on before. Either especially, when she reached the Wimbledon, semi's all those years ago. She's always being a that I've enjoyed watching. Say I'm really pleased for her. It's a lovely story. We will be glued to that and no doubt talking about it in the next episode. Of the passing short remember to subscribe to us on your podcasting platform. 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Upsets like London buses: R3/R4 catch-up feat. Federer battles through Millmania; Gauff + Wang cause Osaka + Serena upsets; Kyrgios sets up Nadal encounter; Muguruza in slam contention?; Collect-a-set update

The Passing Shot Tennis Podcast

39:01 min | 1 year ago

Upsets like London buses: R3/R4 catch-up feat. Federer battles through Millmania; Gauff + Wang cause Osaka + Serena upsets; Kyrgios sets up Nadal encounter; Muguruza in slam contention?; Collect-a-set update

"Thank you Hello. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the passing show. The tennis poke caused by fans for fans with Jolan Kim. Today we are going to be looking back on the last few days at your straight pin down three and some from four but mostly round three because came it was all kind of serene up until point and then it was just upset after a upset upset. Yeah Oh my word. Friday was insane It's been like buses. Was She of you? Wait ages for one and then two more than two come along at once. It was crazy. E Friday maybe we should call it. Yeah let's start with a women's job because I think a lot more upsets that happened on that side as usual I guess. The biggest the biggest upset of all paps Serena Williams going out in the third round to player that she absolutely thrashed the last time they played each other choke wome. She lost any one game against the US Open. And then couple Zeta Serena's losing seven five in the set to her. What was that about came? Because I woke up I wake up on Friday morning and I had to like refresh my fresh reading a few times just to make sure that that was the correct scoreline. 'cause that was. I was expecting again. I was expecting. Kind of a routine Serena Williams going to overpower her opponent Blah Blah Blah. And you know Serena Williams comes to be free to to four but no Occur UNBELIEVABLE RESULT. Amino so of so shocked because as you said it was such a trouncing last time and for lying to kind of you know. Put that right and Trade. That turnaround it. Was you know really kind of fantastic on on her behalf yet? I think we'd go a bit sort of comfortable of Serene Erica. She wasn't her first title in Auckland after coming back from having a child and we feel oh. I'm sure should be safe will be the last stages that she might. She gets the final. She might crumble if you like. But they are at anything. Anyone predicted this. I mean everyone. On all set has got to Serena Williams role I can can save. These eight is a sea of red But Yeah I. I just didn't see this coming and I think a message from Ye. Like W T F Serena and all his whatever happened but yeah it really noise win for Chongwe especially as a coach Peter. Mcnamara died last year in the summer. So I think actually when Chong Played Serena at the US Open. It was quite soon after that so I think she was probably that was on. Her mind probably didn't help four months of USA anyway. This is a nice a nice kind of response from her in a to kind of turn that to fee. And we'll just say she won't hasn't got any further because she has played. Since the mat-su Serena Against Orange Bowl and orange bowl has won that one say. Yeah Chong hasn't managed to go any further in the competition but there seems to be before we go onto there seems to be some sort of Serena curse bombs four people who've beaten her before the final have lost in the next round. That's happened when you got big scalp of call. Maintain that always are on them are on other other. They'd be disappointing. I guess like you get massive scout when you're able to kind of recreate. That kind of Serena brings out a different sort of mentality that you know that. It's hard to replicate against other players. Because you know it's not it's not just in twenty twenty you know. Kenan Franchise Pin Twenty nine plus giver as well Vinci Guy Back in two thousand fifteen. Usa Pinhas was Cornea Wimbledon. In two thousand. Fourteen in Manhattan. What Putin wow but like yeah? I don't know whether people sorry women's players they they They have a different mindset for Serena like in terms of how they're gonNA played in. Maybe I find it hard to replicate in. This happens in the men's against tournament tour as well because I think it just takes such a lot into mentally and physically overcome FEDORONA. Doll Jovic Serena Buzz around the media getting on about you. How can you go and I think it just? It's that's why these players typically out right very tall because they call back up day off today so I think that's just just kind of a case in point anyone J. Before lights out tennis can can be anyone. But it's the sustainability of it. Isn't it kind of separates the greats From from the others. But yes so you oversee we just had Chong played on Czibor today and actually that fourth round match between them to was actually the one that we were all thinking would be Serena Williams to get his caroline Wozniacki but Caroline Wozniacki has now retired. She she lost her on Gibraltar in the third round so three-set match again seven five in the Fed set so yep was the Yankees has finally bowed. I was quite an emotional goodbye of cheese and family. And it's yeah it's it's sad because ever since I've kind of been a tennis fan. She's pretty much been on the scene and I remember going to Eastbourne. I think where she won her first titles and I saw her and now she's she's gotten well. I think we've just remember that you know she goes similar. Trippy videotape Mario. When you saw we'll see how that outside thank you on. It wasn't Aki return within the next six months. Yeah I mean. We should just mentioned on ship. All she is the first Arab woman to reach the quarterfinals of Islam. Now say again. She's making history and I think I'd say now who she's GonNa play Sophia Kenan I think so she could very well gay further remains to be seen. I think that'd be two players in this part of the draw that will be kicking themselves. I think Wozniacki be one of them because you know this is a retirement retirement samba genuinely she held a chance here to potentially to the final light like drool really opened up for an all say for British fans as well Konta. If conto fit the we will kind of previewing say. Qantas called a terrible draw. You could play Serena Williams She could play I think. Do we say yes trump screws well essentially you round the three but again the drawer. Just come up with a completely opened up for her if she got posse aboard in the first round and you know maybe one hundred percent fit so I think you know this this this part yours is all you can say much and yeah. I think I think it's you know we've often we're GONNA come unto it but Bharti convertible. I think the the winner of that is GonNa e I I would say say I was a candidate is is is very tough cookie. I think against any any sort of opponent really. Yeah definitely just doesn't seem phased by anything she does it and yeah we should just say she beat coke off today in three sets paiva-weed school line in the third set. It was a Bagel. So I knew I didn't see it because it was in the middle of the night and I had to sleep so it's a shame that coca golf feeding couldn't back up her win over. Asaka which we should say is like the other. Big upset happened on Friday. I was kind of thinking would would actually. Maybe beat can reach efforts major quarterfinal. It wasn't I guess. She paid say well against US ORCA on Friday. She couldn't quite maintain that liberal form and candidates. Such feisty feisty in a tough nut to crack say golf yet I think from what I think. She's she literally ran out statement. Yeah she's well also CATENACCI. Basically they base go very good Good teams you know. Go McNally at. She beat the eighth seeds in the first round of the double will say still in the cannons in the doubles with Bethany. Metrics say scheduled for both of them but I was also shocked to see you know golf beating Soak. I genuinely didn't think that would happen. I thought it was all CA. What might be tight. But I didn't think of do not know in straight-sets personally I looked at the match starts in that and I just think I'm I know offbeat Asaka by almost cheating. A soccer beat herself a number of errors. She was leaving on the call. I just felt that she wasn't she wasn't the racist that game. She wasn't playing like the the naming a soccer. He's a grand slam champion. And you know coca Gulf of Cedar to took full advantage of that And yet I just think talk. I think you know I was reading kind of. She doesn't have she's in thinks she has the the champion mentality and she finds it hard when she In in grand when she is down in a match she finds it hard to come back and as you said she she feels like there's what to do that and actually. She thinks that she may have almost kind of underestimated. Goff because I think she her quite comfortably the US Open. I guess similar to Serena Williams and I guess with that in your mind. You're thinking Oh this is going to be easy. Actually think when she stepped out and call and you know she was receiving. A Golf serves particularly. She was Oh hello these these have come a long ways to go. Serve was much improved from from the USA. She was learning a lot. More Fair serves much bigger but also this is interesting that she said she doesn't think she has the ability to come back from behind because when she won very test labs. I think a lot of those matches she was. They were tough three-set matches and they could have gone either way and she kind of earning just scrape through all of them so that kind of surprises me. Because I I feel like she's. She proved that she can't come back. from behind when she won by this. I'm so I guess the difference is that now she's expected Whereas at the time she was playing without that pressure so I guess she needs to learn how to handle being the favor in most matches she enters and the other thing as well. She said which I thought was quite revealing in a conference was her. She said I have an age problem. I let losing to people younger than me so I take very personally not just thought leaving the face of it losing to a fifteen year old. Yeah I suppose it's like if you're in a job and maybe manager is like ten years younger than you think. Oh I shouldn't have to take instruction from someone younger than me. It's maybe either. But that's because we have sense of everything should be done at an age and we should be like this and I guess in sport just like the rest of life. Age Isn't always kind of follow the regular pattern. But yeah I mean it just reinforces that like cough is such a special talent absolute fact at fifteen years old. She's she's doing these sorts of things. Yeah I think I sock is not. She's not she will let people know where in terms of you know payments. She does not like to lose the people younger than her Saturday. If that's you know kind of had that in this will be a potential rivalry in terms of Of Bill Needle there. But we'll see with Serena Golf Serena and a soccer out you know we also had some other top sees falling by the wayside say pledged givers gone. She lost to anaesthesia popular schenker so again push Kebir just proving that slams. She is just. She has no reason. None of US predicted hepatitis and didn't have any confidence that she would really get. You know even to the fall you know. She just doesn't turn up in in the match. She doesn't have that Grand Slam Edge. And she said she was playing around forty percent of the game so maybe she underestimated pathogenic. She'd never lost her before. I'm sure perfect anchor was thrilled when when that yeah and also we have Madison keys fooling to Sakari as well. I mean that's I guess that's more of a an even. I could go either way again by in terms of conceding. Yeah keys was in the top. Ten game was another one to to lose given. She reached the finals. While I think it was quite surprising but yeahs Sakaria gayness quite a tough competitor bit like a bit like Kenan. What actually out of all of neighbors been semifinalists. The only one still in in the draw is Patrick Evita so he beat Sakari today or should just say so Kavita still in goes to show you that pre-tournament pre pre maybe aren't necessarily the best you predict what's going to happen. Celina also lost to Mika Aretha who is unseeded for the first time in a long time slam and he made this speed on a roll. No-one taught about her coming into this at but we know that when she plays her best. She is obviously a contender to wait in the title. So I I don't know how how she could go. But I mean I I would say she. Jj within the whole damn thing on the basis of the basis of that scoreline six one six two. I mean this is a very comfortable you know. She played lights out tennis. Thirty one. Winners only nine unforced errors. Yeah so you know someone who's got pedigree likes Lena mcgary. I think she going to be someone to be reckoned with. Because as I said she's a she is a former Grand Slam champion. She knows what it takes. She's Cheetah Martinez in a corner. He's excellent coach. And Yeah I think she's. I think she's a contender. I was kind of like I was like I was like. Oh let's see how she does she she She shall be Robert Rojas Bagel in the first set of the first round. And now we're here. Okay let's say this about you the time. Yeah I I always thought she would come back at some point. And and maybe not with another slime but at least her form of old put for Ted. She's to play for that not to reemerge another player. That kind of quietly going about Business Angelique Kerber. You see another former champion at the Australian Open. So she beat Georgie. She's still she's still in it so again. How Chico we know one again? We're talking about her before the start of the tournament. All eyes. Rana soccer and Serena and which I guess allow today former champs to kind of sneak through one school. I think actually that surprised me. The most was Ebola bench gang absolutely thrashed by Annette contemplates so she lost love and one APP in a very very quick match. I was I was kind of thinking. Is Belinda bench like injured Cheap early move but actually I think contrary just played an almost perfect match twenty one bits you love a bit of contemplate her praises USA. Can I just say I think in all predictions? I had said the controversy would reach the Cortisol. The Semis and you would like what. And then she was due to play Belinda bench in the third round of the US Open but contrary withdrew with an illness. So you know. She couldn't justify prediction for her. Maybe maybe she's just doing it now at the say I feel somewhat smoke. I mean she's go. Eagles via check next day the teenager from Poland. He beat don't evacuate actually say she's on a bit of a run. I would expect contrary to to win that to reach the quotas You just never know but yeah I was really surprised to see that school on because I thought Benji shipping fairly good for coming into coming into the tournament and usually expect that school. I'm really say yes. She must have played absolutely lights out. Say Yeah So. After today's play we do have in the top draw. We do have the top half of the women's Joe we do have a quarterfinalist already. So we've got Ashkenazi versus pitcher ver- and then can in verses on Ziebel And then tomorrow we have still playing around four in the bottom half. We'VE GOT CONTACTS VIA TACK. Mertens semi who've already been speaking a lot about Moog aretha Burton's and then yet curb. Havlicek over so. I'm Hey Paula. I mean how pretournament well actually. It was my tournament prediction for the Star of the year when we when we guests like a couple of weeks ago. So I'm hoping Hallett Viz mutton mutton starts let's play it is tricky via tech. No one's talked about a feel. The focus has been a golf at the business. Getting around four. Yeah just just the night one. Ashmore Tina. We said she had pretty tough draw but she came vibe AKINA comfortably. He was on a run of form and then she's just beaten Alison risk this morning. sketchy double-faulted faulted. On match point in the in the Fed set. Say I think bottle to be quite relieved. She's kind of come through but we'll see next. I think he'd beat her at this stage of the tournament. Loss Chair so bought. He'll be looking to a extract revenge on Patrick Avista but yeah. I think the draw is very interesting lot. Okay we didn't have Serena or soccer. I think the the names that we do have Hallett. Mugabe Sakaba Burton's imagine now you'll have a pair of Burton's emerges Joe Kennedy is just icing. We could get a semi finals where we have four potentially semifinals finals where we could have four former. Grand Slam Champions. Which would be. That would be really interesting that now a can we not also go. Kenan one of them would be a semi-finalist so let's obey leases does say right. Let's say for a quick break Joe and then we'll come back and discuss all the action from the men's side. Okay Joe so as we're recording this of Roger Federer on my tally in his absolutely stunning purple shorts. He's wearing a lovely white shirt today. Lovely purple headband and shorts. Just absolutely think. That's the best outfit I've ever seen him where But he very nearly in the fourth route because I if any of our listeners were watching Friday but federal always lost. John Newman again. Which I think for me was the match of the tournament on the men's side safe are that was an ad I was like. I was really surprised me. I was watching. I was listening to the championship tiebreaker. Work and I genuinely could guy he go one way or the other and really. I think millman Melvin should have millman should have won that match very honestly I think he was. He was up in the tie-break. You know if it was a regular tie-break he would have won the match and yeah he just a bit tight. The critical moments in Fed- federal was able to kind of escape and come through but the fact that we were in a fifth set champion's championship. Highbury a bit like how. How have we got here Roger Federer your billboard yeah? I really didn't think it would be that. Claes thought millman beating at the worst. Just a one off. I expected federal to win a straight-sets maybe four sets so when I think federal anyone the third so I actually had to go out and do some evidence and then I was just in the bank and I easily got into a faith and I saw oh must rush home and carry them watching and then yeah eight. Four wounds up in that in that loss at tie-break and I saw genuinely I think he's going to do it. And then as soon as I thought that just came back and won the tiebreak. Say Very straight disappointing millman. Federal obey relieved to scrape through. Actually he doesn't have the best record in in Los Tiebreaks and obviously the Wimbledon final would probably be in the back of his mind as well. Yeah and I think in in the conference in the Post match conferencing federal kind of saying that he pretty much was using the whole batch to figure out how to play John Millman and he was sometimes saying Topspin from time saying slice and nothing was really whacking. And it was. It was it was. It was autonomous. Deceive the amount of kind of unforced errors that Roger Federer was making. We don't we don't normally see that from his forehand which is one of his most reliable and consistent shots but yeah it just wasn't it wasn't clicking for him and you know he managed to kind of come through neon yeah he's paying fuskus at the moment. Yeah it was just. It was just very surprising. After the first two rounds very easy you know. He dropped very few games and yeah he had this. Real real test is real scaring in in the third round. But I think I probably helped Serena Anna Salka had had lost that day. I think when there's a big upset too big sets pages isn't it? I think players think anything's possible so I think maybe millman came onto the call and backed by his home crowd. Mania milk bit more belief because of what happened. No radio on that on that day. So yeah. I think that it's definitely something the AD. When when you get sort of Shiva's shortwave setting around the ground. Never fail in the air. So I didn't how PHUC CIVICS GONNA against Federer that playing at the moment. It's really early days for you. Folks has beaten. Well he beats shapoval over in the first round. Ho escapes me. He'll be in the second beat told me Pool in the Fed. But Yeah I've it'd be interesting to see how how close he could he could get federal. A federal is going to be back on form of his first two rounds and that she moved on she sees. You did fall out. Cisa pass loss to Miller's Rhonette who who is seems to have turned over a new leaf because the around I know is just like way digital the time but you know. It seems that he had a very you know you had an off-season had time to prepare is coming into this healthy and he's been really good run together and Y- member on kind of Around one catch out. We were talking about shop valve and Elliot C losing and being like. Oh it's a little bit of good day. Canadian tennis will actually forgot about the rowdy exists. And now he's here and he's now into. He's not into the colts. Volleyball's Yay Marin Chile today in straight-sets so yeah I've been violence tillage now. Everyone's cup of in terms of the match up but I think people were sort of say. Well that's going to generate a lot of money for bushfire relief under the old Isis cracking down the Chile chat beaten Roberto bodies through in the previous round So in over another you know seed very reliable play. fell by the wayside and then rounded. She's taken out Chile today. He will face joke rich next so SORTA during the game against tournament dating worried. You're rich too much but yeah it's nice to see Roenick after the struggles of the past seasons getting back to where you know where he he belongs to us. We know he's a lot better than his current ranking would allow him to be so. Yeah I've Jovic Proceeded very come speak to each day against Diego Schwartzman. That was never going to be anything. Straight-set sedate things. I suppose the matches on. Everyone's lips really. Is You know what we've got lined up tomorrow in the night session. Which is rougher against? Nick Caritas this much when the draw was released. Everyone was anything you this could happen. And it's yeah it's eight set. They've based come through In in different fashions. I should say 'cause rougher absolutely demolished public arena bestir think yet will create Nicholas has never beaten rabbit. Rafeh has now extended his winning streak against fellow Spaniards to eighteen consecutive victories. Rafeh was just yet really really good. Stats very very convincing on Saturday against PC BAY. But oversee carriers is going to be completely different getler fish and well. You lost touch. After being teased sets up catch came back and that went to this set tie-break so again yet more drama. I mean carriers have matchpoints in. I think the third and fourth sets so if he had a loss that she would have really been brewing his opportunity but he he managed to sneak through in the end. Yeah did you see or Jerry? The match I think it was before the match in the crowd. That was a fight. Those a proper like fistfight in the crowd and I saw this is. This is of crowd for Nick. Curious about Uh send out when she neighborhood have been set straight catch the. I think it's I think. Curiosity dollar is going to turn ugly. It's just a question of when it's GonNa turn ugly if I'm already envisaging now came rafters going to do an approach shot to the net and curious body short as for holidays. Econ straight at the Dow on the happening to watch it because with the I think I might be so of looking at the screen and just like grisly. I tell you know I'm so it's one of those batches or they find out. She wants as rough. Carriers has already been emaciating reference. I think his match against Simone. Though both he gave a time violation and then start imitating offers. A service routine would not be surprised if he does the same sort of antics through obsessed with Rafferty. But he's a bit jealous Anyway but yeah that's GonNa overstay that's just got so. I think they've they've put that much on tomorrow on the schedule and they got doubled joff towards say they just kind of defeating most of that. Chee rough against a another actually. There's some really interesting matches tomorrow. Not just that one. But we've got very facing rip left in the Fourth Round incidentally has not dropped a set on reached the fourth-round which is quiet. He came through against VESCO yesterday to at Shay. Yeah he served reach full-frontal last year. Oviously I think he's. He's been saying that he's going to donate money patron and maybe maybe he's just not feeling the pressure say much because it's talk about in. Medvedev or or team and you know people haven't really been focusing so much on Sarah of mono expecting as much anymore. So maybe he's feeling a bit unburdened because of that. I don't see replacing is hasn't lost a match yet this year so I think that's going to be really interesting to see how this one turns out to the. Yeah I I mean off in our collective and yeah I don't know how that's GonNa Gay 'cause he's given me this idea. This idea that he could dislike. Navigate Grand SLOBS. We've with ease. I know you know is going to be very tough competition. I don't think it's going to be as straightforward as a three-set victory. Happy Ferrara to prove me wrong but yeah I still feel I still feel like rebe. Life is the favourite going into that one just pleased that ripple has managed t to to get a few solid wins hair and just you know he's he's maintained his former. Sydney and yeah I would I personally would like to go through. I'd like to see maybe Medvedev called final. Who They Medvedev's got stay on the mound so lots of interesting coach. I've Setzer in Olympia. I think it my so it means stand man is being again quietly coming through. Yeah he was. Playing is no is no retired. What halfway through the match the other day. So yeah been so sneaking through also gilman fees and Dominic team in the other fourth round. Tomorrow I didn't even again one was actually playing. I hadn't heard a single word about any of his matches. So that's today I could go either way. Publi team's GONNA come through. It could add incidentally donate team sacked. Thomas Mr who? They only just started working with each other. He brought almost mysterious part of his coaching lineup. Alongside Nicklaus missy but they announced Like yesterday that Thomas missed it was no longer working with him with a media fact so obviously. I guess they didn't get old. I mean I have no real insight into kind of coaching ships like Mitt Tournament. Yeah is back. Yeah shortest partnerships in history matches together. I think again team Memphis easily. Go fight I think we've got a potential five. We could get five sets across the board thing in in the from for the Dow foam feast team Medvedev recovering cobwebs. None of those sound straightforward. None of those semi sound like you know three set regulations. You know like a like Schwartzberg. Jock bitch was earlier today. That's such a disparity between the different holidays. Like the top half Rafeh curiosity on St Medvedev Rinker Blessed and then the Baltimore fee. Day Is Sandra Sanguine and then we've gone Jovic and then yes I. San will be playing the winner of fiscal vicks and federal so that Bottom sections of jewelry is just you know just expect federal drug which come through. It's just completely d for The toll Paul but will they instantly fix. Vix Is a break up on fetter. Say He's just about to go five three up. So you never know you never know but yeah grin excavates final hour with me laughing that but the top is Stephanie. Stacked and a lot harder to pick how I think the the semi finalists For sure But we've got Medvedev Zara of of that all the same and I'd say anyway Just a name on the doubles Joe and we have some Brits in the doubles say Jamie Murray and won't Jamie Murray and They lost actually in the men's doubles. But Jamie Murray has wadden. The first round was mixed up Bethany. Matic Sam's so he's still in one of the competition's Johnny o'meara that. He's into the double sculls finals with Arra Valet his partner so Rambo's bristow and and think can skin Gonzales. Who SAY STILL IN JORDAN? They might be planning to. Moray no scopes gays PAG of seaway. Shay in the in the mix as well as So they will never as much. I'm everyone was talking about nick. Aerial spraying with Amanda Anisimov as well in the mixed doubles so they want their first match so I think that was kind of one of the more notable partnerships and actually talking upsets on that Friday. We also had a bear and Moore who leasing in the men's doubles over the number one seeds. They lost to Bolelli impair in the first round so bit. Meshach in the doubles world. But John Wall. I suppose doubles hairy. It's not best five like is it with Meudon Wimbledon. Cad slammer specify. But it's you know it's easy to to have upsets exposed when it's best-of-three-sets but yes I know. Psychiatry Gulf mentioned. She still in the in the women's doubles with Katie McNally. So they could go on Iran. She could she could win the women's doubles. I think. That's a genuine possibility. Say Well we'll say we'll keep people up to date on the doubles. Of course the other thing that's going on at the moment is our collective set predictions which have basically seen a massive sea of red however they came. Yeah all of these ads. Yeah so we've still got people in the mix for Jakovich Rip Levin Balti. But for Evans Goffin Serena only a handful of people have got things. Right for Serena no one has got the prediction right for Keiko Golf. We had three people predicting that she would get a three to the fourth round. Say Adam de Joe Newnham and Liz Curran they guest coca golf correctly. Fatad Evans May I just say I particularly the second round correctly. Osage Queen V. Sixteen Chris Malton at Noel Nadeau and Reuben grief. Say go down Evans correct. But yet it's always playful still. There's no clear when So update on on the twitter and then we'll be updating it for him. I said a of rounds time once we know what's going on in his ornament but yet you still going to be on. I'm not going to be in the running in the running. No well depends on rebel. Bharti and yeah so joe of the come to the end of the first week now. What's been your Standard Maimon from the first week of the I think it's got to be Roger Federer versus Joe Millman because it's sort of absolutely fantastic match mill mania Australian Open crowd. I think he just had all the right ingredients and I know we didn't get upset. I said we have a thing. We had a really entertaining match ebbed and flowed and you just kind of showed the actually what federal is not invincible anymore? Seated and I think it just shows you know in Grand Slams in the first week plays light Joe Millman they. They do have a chance when they separate court with someone like Roger Federer and Fusco break-up moment who knows maybe he maybe he'll he'll be able to do what Joe Millman couldn't involving it just kind of show us. Yeah I was just kind of a great match and it just shows you that the big three maybe not as invincible as once were and kind of sets up for exciting tennis. Yeah I would agree. Actually sorry to be boring. I'm just GonNa say the same thing. And she just embraced withdraw mill. When I really didn't think he would perform like that at and I think he should be really proud while even oversee he lost and he could very well one. I just was very impressed and yet to be able to always be the same player twice on a big stage of Grand Slam when no one expects you to that yeah is very stand out for me from the first week has three set points against Federer to take the first set so take another one kid for a long match. Today could beat the drummer a Friday. Yeah we'll be back I think after the quarterfinal stage to bring an update from the Australian Open. We'll say keep everyone upstate with collector set so in the meantime let us know your thoughts on. What's going on down under a you can tweet us at passing shot pods or email us at passing product. Gmo DOT COM. We always love to hear your thoughts on the tennis on on anything related to what's going on in the tennis world city las thoughts.

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Australian Open Day 13 - Superstar Osaka Wins Second Consecutive Grand Slam; Djokovic vs. Nadal Final Preview

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Australian Open Day 13 - Superstar Osaka Wins Second Consecutive Grand Slam; Djokovic vs. Nadal Final Preview

"Hi, I'm John McEnroe's board. This is Martina Navratilova. I'm Mats Wilander. I'm stunned ROY Rinker. Am Lleyton Hewitt. I'm Andy Murray. And you're listening to the tennis podcast. Moments ago. The Australian Open women's title was decided, and it has gone to Niamey Osaka in a thrilling final following a thrilling file of three sets seven six five seven six four ever Petric of it's about and that does not do Justice because of the ups and downs and the feelings and the emotions and the stress and the brilliant shop making that we've just witnessed and here on the tennis podcast myself, David law, Catherine Whitaker. Hello, Hello, grad, Matt's. How you very well. We're we're uplifted. I am. What are you? Slightly unfortunate state of speechlessness from podcast tweet light out from grad. Matt how's this going to work on the pot? Well, blew me away. The whole match was just one of those evenings wasn't at the sky was immense and the tennis just sort of matched. It was just the perfect evening to see the amend snus of it. The sky to our Instagram. Pike from Whitaker is shown taking a selfie of. Of pitching. But it kind of kind of sums it up. Yeah. It was an incredible nights and detainment some sports. And it it really is hard to to feel completely good about the the the person that has won it simply because it means that one of them is fading miserable right now. And that's Patrick. It's. It's. As as a match itself. One thing. I'd forgotten and I'm gonna just get this early because that's why I lost. My prediction, which I said it would be straight-sets for Patrick. I completely forgot how good I am. Your soccer is getting behind a tennis ball. I think past partly because of since she started working with actually by Phil. That's that's one of the things that he seems to got her doing the ability to get in behind the ball. No matter. How hard is struck and bionic absorb it. Yeah. The movement. And also she she gets low to the ground. She never feel like she dials it in. She never dials. A point in just kind of puts a racket out there. You know, she's she's trying to get her feet in position. So she's behind the ball now matter where it is on the court. And so that she can properly deal with it full commitment all time. I'm like time is sort of suspended like she Andy Murray's does that sometimes used to do that. They just times a bit slower there under the then is the opponent. Never really remember. When you you alerted me tonight. I'm soccer before I ever saw think I think you were it's an eventual you saw a plan you just waxed on about. How good she was in. What we've got in our midst. They're probably two or three years ago won the Singapore. Rising stars they used to show they still do it or whether schenn's will continue to do it alongside the deputy finals as a rising stars event for fourth under twenty's. But she was she was eighteen most than and she will not event, I think that was very so her because I was there that year, and I still we're close. And I've been in senior a few times and just being taken by a serve and the power of ground strikes. It's only in the last six months that are it's new whether it's just it's me have noticed it before the way she commits in rallies now and how hard she is debate. In that explains how she mountain those comebacks that. She had earlier in the storm and then suddenly playing a brilliant match against Bush. But you know, this was convicted of a plane. Well, and she still didn't win elephant does that. Yeah. I mean Nemea saw Chris so much more than just a clean hitter tennis ball. She as you said the movement ability to send some moment into rise to it. And it's those abilities which have taken to this next level. She was already good play. But in the last six months, she has become just an absolute superstar absolute force in this game. Who you just you just sort of expect to deliver in these big moments? And that's why for me the way that second set was so shocking song believable because I did not see that what will coming. So how much of that wobble was her and how much it was competitive thing. It was a bit of both. I think the analogy I like to use is a tennis player is kind of pushing a bowl up a hill. And they have to get the ball right to the top of the hills much. Can and keep it there. But if they just lose it down the other end of the hill, and that's a little bit. What happened with a soccer game start? It's not just run away from thought and the air is came a little bit. But at the same time Patrick Evita did so well to hold from forty down and took took it to us all kind of sucker felt that pressure coming from the other end of the cold. So I think it was a double from soccer. So it was it was definitely a combination of the two as it often. Is I think when this huge disparity in number of games in a short period of time interaction between the perfect interaction of the mental in the physical and the skillful, right? You know, where one thing ends and the other begins, and there's no doubt something mental happen to name is. Okay. You know, she went of the end of that set and she came back. She has that she has that big tell where she. Like little is so child like the way she sort of squishy have always earned pulls it down over her is is if like maybe you will see the I'm upset if I do that. And final per, exactly. Yes. There's no doubt. She was feeling it. But the. And she does have this sort of. I hate to it Sochi. It's sort of. It's Bill bossy really is quite gendered, isn't it. But she does sometimes have this slightly Sochi looking face on on the court and cheese. You know that loss to leashes Ranko in the semi final in Brisbane. I'm sure she would come three tonight if it hadn't been for that loss in the way, she. Reflected upon it so quickly and with such visceral, honesty and self awareness. And clearly learnt from it means I should buy the ice to yesterday. I mean yesterday, he talks a lot about her ability to learn from things, but to learn from something that big in the space of three weeks while a grand slam tournament is happening. Blimey amazing amazing. I feel like. Tonight and throughout this full night is perfect as you could get really particularly for young Platt who hasn't been through every experience yet. She's learning. She goes, and she just stays in the moment. She doesn't seem to tile in the way that you talk about getting to the amount. And then oh my goodness. She's the edge. And then there's no there's no coming back. She kept on getting back to the here. And now, and when she went off the court after that second set, she came back and immediately she was back in the room. You know, she was really ready to go hard-drive wiped, and let's do it. It was it was fantastic to watch actually that I suppose that's another part of the material process. Goodness me. She's she's just she has an appetite for the sport, generally. And and that's why I think she could end up going onto such great things in the future as well. But it was on on its own marriage. That match was just was just a joy to watch analogy views safe antastic. Because how many I mean not just in? This just happened to have been quite few notable examples in this tournament of really tight I set so second sets and then run away deciding sets final sets, you know, very against Collins in the semi final tie-break I set and then it was six over in second six love final set. Nadeau sit surpass the this fits Lena Result Match with with similar. I think it was six one in in the in the deciding set that. Yeah. It's just real nail on the head. Analogy you really want in this sort of match when it's build the way it is. And it lines up, and you just think surely that's going to be a good match. Surely that's going to be three cents surely that both gonna play well because they can't be playing this well running in and then not deliver. And then they did. And then they did even more. So you know, it really kinda had everything a match because the the tennis on show was off the scale in terms of quality. I think. I don't think I expected when I made my prediction that would went into just didn't see how competitive could play that. Well, not win and she did play. Well, yeah. I didn't about you. But my evil well-meaning emotion. The end of that second set was gratitude to Patrick Vetiver for extending into into very well losses. Neutrals just wanting as much of the match as possible. But I really really did. I felt I felt like she done us all a personal favor. Soccer is she wasn't. But. Sweet it, isn't it. I would I don't know. I mean, it's quite funny. When if you ask for your federal would you like to win in a classic that everybody rooms or would you like to win in three straight sets, you know, easily and he's always not too easily. Onto this later when we preview the men's foreign above could a feeling that joke of each wants another five fifty three feeling that. He would rather win like that that that that final against the dengue twenty twelve so defining, and we so you the making of him in many ways that he wants to taste of it again. The thing or soccer and her win. And I think that this is what typically happens with these kind of things, you know, you if somebody offered you these routes you take easy route. But yeah, it means more doesn't it? When you when you had to go that route that circuits roots and uphill ups and downs, and you still come out on top what an achievement at is from soccer, and she can do it all because we saw the USO annoy she blitz through the draw winning straight-sets every single match up from the Lincoln, and obviously the final there was sort of sexual thing to come through not in terms of the tennis just dealing with the moment here what she's done is. She I mean, she was a set and four one down to say she say she way in the fourth round, third-round and. Was the third of? Switzerland's? She comes. Ten past midnight. Folks is coming into press cones. I reckon she gets out of their three AM. Movie. Delighted to stay that long. I'm not joking because I mean, how many interviews does she gonna end up there. Right. They you know, the point you make about veteran plays just wanting to win easily. She she might again, she might not be in this position. Had she won easily against Stover all way shea. I I believe I really think she's a better player than she was a week ago two weeks ago three weeks ago. I think this shame on the seventh day for much and the Sarang K much in Brisbane have been. Defining for her. Because usually usually I would most players, especially when the not fully forms like she's not she's not the finished article. She's actually going to get better. What's out, which is which is an incredible fool? But most players there's a type of player isn't a the is going to be the one that messes them out, and you know, whether its merits Fabry center, whoever it is used if this. There's a player isn't a car really think of anybody who's gonna who at the moment can make Niamey Asaka thing going. I think she's played them in his toilet. I really do think it was Suez shea and several Stover and the fact that she found a way through those matches because because their players who don't feed her the power necessarily, and they give different looks and just slightly mess her up and for her to have come through them. And then she got into the power players, and okay, she has. Yeah. Difficult matches against fisker today against Christopher. But she was kind of being in charge of them as well. You know, she she won the first set in both and she just feels more comfortable against the power players. And there aren't a lot of say say she way and civil service on tool so many. David or is the WPA? They call us. You have to get used by me. The the match. I I read something by caught new in a couple of days ago that she'd asked both these two when the last time they played somebody with a match NAS on their kids said Savile anchor use opened because they both played suppling Carreno soccer manage to find a way to win that which which is interesting. It's particularly surprising to us is it because of the guy in samba anchor is gone. But the the the future for soccer is just going to be so interesting to watch on so many levels because of potential and personality because she the the interest levels. She provokes the way she the effect. She has on people is immense. Another thing that that Courtney ost Asaka off the semi final victory. That was really stuck with me was she quoted herself she created Namie back to her and said, I think it was a year or so ago, she was seventy two in the world here year ago seventy-two, she was all potential. Around about a year ago, certainly before she had one Indian miles of the US opener. Anything she said that. If I'm good enough. I don't need the experience I can win without experience. If I'm good enough. And Courtney ASA g think you're winning the final is about just being good enough. Would you think now starting to be by experiencing? She went. Good question. Citizen question. Yes. She says for me at the start of every. Good. And she was like, oh, yeah. Actually, I do have a bit of experience. Now. Oh, and it was kind of like moment of. Wow, I'm I'm really good. I'm now I have the experience under my 'bout like how of good at all. And I mean for me. Oh, good on. Tonight. Matthew, I'm going to be naming a soccer. Julia kosher intonation of voice like Alison, I think it is on Hannigan plays. The part of the name is. American pie movies. Well, I'm showing my age because I think willow and Buffy the vampire slayer. Don't know who that is. But okay believe. No. But you know. Straddling the generation. We did it was filmed when he before he was born anyway. We think it stands the test of time. Describe to that. I didn't know because it was before I was born because I was very disappointed with Amanda an over in this tournament. Who is tennis? I love and she is from freehold New Jersey. How move Bruce Springsteen and she said, Bruce. Didn't Breese bring his his pitcher is probably like in every if Bruce Springsteen's from your small town. I have never been more disappointed sixteen year old or anybody for that matter. Anyway. So I mean, I remember I mean now, I mean, she was brilliant before without the experience. What what is going to stop all saying, you know, I'm not gonna fall into the us movie traffic same Kanzi how she's tennis punches. But for me something has changed in tennis tonight because I think. I think there is been this sort of baseline default feeling in in women's tennis that lots of people can be very very good on the day excetera etcetera, people might be able to beat Serena. But if in one's Rena returns to her best, I'm full, fitness. Serena is still the best player in the world. I'm not sure that's the case anymore. I think Serena can be can be better than she was against again, you know, in this moment and against Bush, but I still I think soccer. Would would be current best. Serena a d-, I think a soccer is the baseline and benchmark in tennis. And that's a real real shift. I think the most uncomfortable. She looked was when she was giving her speech in the whole night nightmare soccer. I mean, it was still endearing. She's still lovely. But it was noticeable that when she wasn't asked questions and go to give this set piece. Speech and she said I'd look to my notes beforehand, but now forgotten ill. I mean that is amazing should minted to having. Some people could do that. Could easily of the reaction of federal having the the eight. Today. Jackie asking for vogue cover. But you know. It just wasn't like that was is just adorable. She genuinely just doesn't believe in her power. No issues coming from. Yeah. Just to say something on Sunday further. The Katherine said, I genuinely fail like soccer is an. The era defining. On either. Either tall men or women. She for me is the is the most significant most important tennis player to emerge since Marian Jackovitch in that sort of oh six seven eight period on the men's tool because why? Well, because the impact she's already having the fact that she backed up a grand slam by winning the next one. She's plays on fourteen grand sign matches in a row now that that feats of backing up your first time by winning the next one is never happened in your opinion on the men's side and hasn't happened since Jennifer can't 'priority in two thousand and one on the women's side. Serena didn't do it. This hard to to overstate at achievement. I think it just doesn't really happen. It's it's immense. And also the way she plays the way she is how popular she is. She, you know, the the the tennis world is hers too. Hers to take over. Really, none of it seems to the factor. No. It'd be interesting to see whether it does in the future, given I mean her I am not an remarked upon social media following after the US open, the weight just took off and the engagement every show. Has posted. Hello on Asian the place just goes bananas. And that's just going to multiply. She doesn't seem bulletin slightest. Really, she so far least and hope that stays the same because it would be great to get somebody who just keeps them winning. We'll keep some being part of the top of the game for years and years to come who doesn't hate the the elements that can come with it. This beach, her whole speech. I didn't think she mentioned winning the title of the trophy. Once it was all about the much and the honor of being part of that much. Saying. First time. It's you know, it's it's books. Check thing with these takes with with those speeches. He can relate your opponent it now one of the tick the books as they team you pay TIMMY such such. The. Does not what she was doing. She she she Bailey knowledge that she'd wanna tie to. It was all about the owner of participating in in that much. And she said I'm sorry pitcher that offers of match had to be a grand slam final as if to say, I I didn't want to deny this this grand slam title. I mean, it was all. When she turns to said that to her as opposed to kind of the way, they sometimes do they say generically, you know, ignored her apparent really that was lovely. And I thought what a moment and convincing. Over the outpouring of emotion just just warms towards her as well. I think one of the papers called this the field. Good final. And that was such a good way. Putting it wasn't. It breaks confirms had something is I he did didn't it. Yeah. We saw Simon a short while ago. And I mean, he he's been bowled over by the story. And contrasting the to so many that we've just seen as the biggest departure from one to another that you could possibly get in the US Ivan finals to this. And he's absolutely right. The men's final is coming and it will take some living up to enter in terms of the final we've just seen. But you've got in that jock itch and round the Dow two players played each of the fifty two times before twenty seven twenty five in the favor of jock itch all bid, and we talked about last night Katherine after Jackovich's matched the statement that he'd given in response to now's statement victory. But then you look at the actual head to head between the two and the more recent record. They've got twelve out of the last fifteen when by junk of each it's quite quite a significant difference. Isn't it? He and this is a slightly different adult brother describes it as aggressive. Not adul-. Come out. And he does look like he's just being released from a k. Yeah. It was like when they release these Tigers in gladiator. This is a bit like that. I still give the slight edge to joke of it. But I, you know. I interviewed him earlier just with Kavita the assume say easily convinced by these people. You mentioned the links is the match of the last one five thousand fifty three minutes. Simon was talking to Saudi are back. How? I think one of the first times that he covered one of the first years. He was he was correspondent and and going into that it was the marine even relationship just started to four hour ethic. Jock itch Maureen and there was this. And yeah, I mean. It felt like a massively significant match the time and ended up being. I mean, I think it's one of the one of the results helped Jackovitch toward wary stands now on the heels these other two greats the game it, and if you can outlast Rafael the Dow over the best of five and a grandson final mention the badge of honor that must be feel for your ego fuel pride that the can be no greater achievement. In tennis. I don't think it'd be able to do that. Yeah. I think that's why he wants it. He he wants. He's ideal scenario is winning in five sets and six hours again, he would oversee take winning three sets and two hours over not winning. But I think he'd be prepared to gamble. If you if you any up she's now in rely stall, I get the impression need gamble on a fifth. Rozier federal always says. But the actual memories are more special when they went in the distance. I think a lot of the time. But I also probably in that just an acceptance from Jackovitch, I think he's probably using the interviews in a way just to remind everybody. I mean, the chances of winning in straight sets a pretty remote or either of them because they are both such greats of the game. That boasts so similar in many ways in terms of their ability to to just do it out from a baseline and the both I would say pretty much the peak of pass. So how could that be straight since? Well, I mean the same today it's born out as I mean, it's just hard to see scenario where straight sets an. I know it's a cliche, but you know, the best players want to test themselves against the best. But I got that impression from the dull at from from Jovovich today a much the same impression from dole. But he did his insurance Spanish and Spanish to that. But, but yeah, I really got the impression that he wants to leave Mobin jock of each feeling like his the very, you know, he's peacock feathers. Braised and fluttering and feeling like he's the best tennis player in the world without question and the best way to do that is to play peek raff on the dull into beat him in a physical contest. Yeah. I mean, they both produced stratospheric levels of tennis didn't I in the semi finals? And if they if they both bring that is really difficult to see how this, you know, how can this not be really match the one the one style I would add to this conversation. It's Djokovic is one is lost fourteen cents on our core against the doll. Quite lost. Now of the the eye test. Is that in the dollars playing different tennis on a court more aggressive shortening shortening, the rallies, I think is average length is on the four in this tournament. And you know, we think of the dollars grinding it out, but he's just not doing that. He's he's going for the kill. He's you know to quote, Mary Kereta, he's got he's got his findings on. He's just. Ripping all hands and. Up to his up to speed on his serve. So the big question is will this new Dowell have more of an impact against your facial hair hardcore because Djokovic on hardcore shown certainly recent times that his game can just disrupt dull the last set the Dow one on hardcourt from what I can see that the US open final in twenty thirteen six one six years ago. Yeah, it's been absolute age, and I actually compared the tennis playing now to more like tennis US opening twenty ten where he was more of. And he actually beat your commission the final that. But that was that was before conviction gone in to the mode that she went into twenty eleven winning everything. So I am backing Djokovic. But I'm very very interested to see how this new nodal how cook game copes. And if it if it doesn't co doesn't win the match. You know, what other options against your? Yeah. Well, I I would go back to the women and that we saw recently ten eight in the fifth. I can't really imagine Miguel playing better than that. And I mean, he could have gone either way, but he didn't win. Reef. Djokovic. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Well, I'm gonna go Djokovic vision five I'm gonna joke which and five and and when he when he walked the interview remain eve is. Derailing himself in the monk for and I said see you two AM tomorrow morning than even. Yeah. Guess. What are you going? Joe conviction for Djokovic four. Pretty much insert about what's going to happen would be so. Be such a small shift for it together. The way with the the woods of even Lendl about what's going to happen in. I can I need to is. The worst interview time that I did this morning. Whoever wins the loss point. Very helpful. And pressed him on. He said you seriously asking me on on the TV who who what will happen? Yeah. Tv interview of on. That is precisely some pay today. It is sorry, right. Well, we know what we thing. Clar Tulleson has won the the women's juniors. The girls juniors tournament Weldon hat from Denmark and your young man you've been following him blogs about yesterday. I'm a saying that's Lorenzo David, so Musset, e. Yeah. He he's only blocked tobacco. He he's only blog about. So. And you you went to watch two semifinal yesterday. You gave your scouting report in your blog. We're trying to work out how whether you whether it's possible to predict the future is this the next whatever big name or not. He wants day fourteen twelve and a third set tiebreak. Yeah. It was a more successful. You know, adventure out what someone who I didn't know huge amount about and it was earlier in the tournament with MOVA. Doesn't it? Yeah. But yeah, what a what a great match. I said in the plot to this mazzetti guy is very watchable and seeing it from bitten over this up on the road Lavery now, which by the way, I really nice that they that employ on the road Lavery and for the final partly because cool Torino today was being used for four night. It's being east full gaming gaming, and they they put oppressively saying that some of the some of the world's top famous gamers, the all have completely ridiculous names. We'll be featuring. And I I I've never felt so out of touch with the world when I read that press release. Understood most of the last minute. Okay. Yeah. Just asylum. This on this match. What a what a great match, particularly as you make that final set tiebreak to ten. There was a moment where mazzetti thirty one after eight hate an he did an ice on a second serve challenge. And it was actually just a millimeter out, and then he had to save a match point of his own. And he thinks she went onto win it fourteen twelve and there was there was a moment where I thought because in the semi fun of that watched. He was very relaxed. He was in control today was really under pressure from his American opponent. And it was a moment. Mazzetti a little bit too talion. It was. In the way that Mary found the French to French. Yeah, we like in what would be to. I mean, we have the. Painfully British would we be looking at the weather? Well, we'd be sort of plucky wouldn't in no end up delivering kind of stereotype is doing, but but mazzetti was Cassini world when things were going against him and raving in his box. And there's an interesting coaching in June is where if you down the same end as your coach you can talk freely with your coach. So he's doing that a lot. And if the other can you? Can you talk with your opponents? Just got hand signals. So that's quite interesting juniors. And I believe is Tennis Australia initiative. So he was you know, he was really letting the Cajun noise get to him, but he was kind of renting and venting a little bit. But he he never lost his focus, which which was impressive. I can name some of the celebrity gamers now, you're right. The fruit Mr. fresh Asian one word. Doc to Leo. Eleven thirty AM tomorrow in the road lay arena into. Only sorry who'll Trina into cheese or do they say do? They get dressed up as tennis players. Records of Australia's top fortnight gamers will compete in qualifying on Saturday. Chance to play for shed David in the four hundred thousand dollars in prize money on Sunday, those names again four hundred thousand dollars where can I get this game? Get nobles giving me. Nifty car. Getting noticed. On night station. I think possibly anyone could be good at it. Can I ask those names again? Mister, fresh Asian. What would David lose gaming name? Be tennis. He says on a postcard you we're going to be taken seriously by the phone. I. Pose con. Punk has to be left to give me my gaming name for forty nine or whatever that is. I mean, anyway, let's just end this podcast with that. It's being the tennis podcast brought to inside sation with ten executive produced by tennis bowls dot com. I'm asking is Rio the dog with a y thank goodness for real with the why not as four nine nonsense. We only about with the the men's singing singles final tennis podcast to funnel when we're going to bring you from Melvin and twenty nineteen grant Matt is going to tell us all about this this gaming stuff after this show because he's young to understand it myself, David low we'll say tomorrow, thanks so much for doing this.

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Serena's Significant Win; Djokovic Off To A Flier

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Serena's Significant Win; Djokovic Off To A Flier

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You know it's because it's not like it was where I was scraped from where you are going to be. Yeah well yeah. My head's all over the place Melbourne in two days time that's where we're headed I'm sure all the violence. We're on away yet. The other side of the world because Tennis is about stars and the tennis has been going on. This is that last week has an. Let's start with or Clinton's where Serena Williams has won a title for the first time in very nearly three years and and it feels to me like a really big deal. Does it feel to you like a really big deal on the music ten last night On BBC One it was in the news section. Really if last night's national while even the Sports Section So yes it is a huge deal And there were so many little subplots to I like the fact that last time she played the brackets. I'm tainted she was pregnant with her due to at the time There's little video that emerged last night. of Long off to the crowds Had dispersed from the arena in Oakland completely empty stadium and she's the with the one of the members of the team doing cartwheels on the court taking videos of it was the sun setting the stadium. Just really emphasizing what it mentor the significance of it and I think moving anything in terms terms. Would it means that the bigger picture. She's won a final and for me. I think small event or no more relatively small for me. That's speak. Yeah I think both the kind of symbolic significance of the fact. She was even back in Oakland. I never thought she'd go back time last time on. She loves she said well. At least I can get out of these conditions. She described him as abhorrent and. She's back winning the title title in this new phase of life. which started in Auckland and then this kind of the actual significance of it of the fact that she's now one final final i? I wasn't necessarily convinced about the argument that she needed to win. Tour level final to win a grand slam final. Those those precious felt so different to me and you know just because she's one tool final. I don't automatically think she's going to win and a slam final however watching the moment she did it yesterday the kind of relief and just the outpouring of all this kind of pent-up frustration. When she actually won the match I've now sought changed my mind and I think it was really significant? She needs that winning feeling being back it needs to become a habit again. She kind of learn how to win again. This is someone who used to just win all the time she needs to get that back and actually comparison in another sport is is tiger woods how he won the tour championship at the end of one season in his comeback And then went on one. The most is the first kind of major of the next year and I think a lot of people who go through his win was really significant. The fact that he's done okay. It was refused accused failed. Smaller tournament like like sweetness. When in Oakland but you know she was having trouble winning finals and she had trouble at the start of is that final against Jesse and she was a breakdown and she could have panicked? She could've thought this is happening again. She came through it. If you find yourself in a grandson found on again at least she's got this new experience to draw upon so I think it was really significant. I find myself watching. What a lot of Serena Williams last last week because of jet lag? Every time I seen to wake up thinking it was eight. Am and it was two am. She was on the court MM But she looks quite serene Somme Pun her name. It was the whole experience. She seemed to be just all of all of the bit seemed to be in the right place with the way her strokes were being played. You know there. It was no clunking game. She she might not be as quick issues today but she was never sort of reaching for the ball. And the kind of thing that in a very routine matter-of-fact way you'll if you'll be certain she's not as quick as she used to be. How much for you as she lost I tell you I don't know if I could put a percentage to it but I just feel like when you're thirty eight you you are slower? I'm and I'm sure I just find it. I'm just interested because I find it very difficult to judge. Just watching the side by side comparison in Paris used to she used to look on courts wonder woman that's what I always used to think. She had a superhero superhero like quality. Not just the way she used to hit the ball but the way she would bound around the corner She was incredibly fast and agile. Agile and able to twist turn direction I if you got back in the archives I I've got a little interview with I think back in about twenty thirteen whereas asked to whether she has any pains she's in the thirty s and she said You know I I still bounce out of bed which is great and I still think she looks incredibly supple for somebody of her age with the the. The small amounts attended that. She's been playing over the last few years. But I think when you see replace certain other players these days who are I mean underscores the obvious one to draw attention to somebody WHO's similarly powerful and explosive and all the rest of it I find Serena sometimes just seems step late to the ball and I think in the Wimbledon final with her exceptional exceptional. Move kind of exposed. How Serena had maybe lost a stat? I was struck is the adjective serene. And just kind of how happy she looked. And I I think that the her playing doubles who is both significant from a kind of mental state points of view but also tennis. I mean we. We talked to Wimbledon last year. About how the doubles with. Murray the mixed kind of help to Gabby Sharpe in tournament because in doubles it's not necessarily about Endurance based movement is kind of explosive movements and reactions. And I think that might have helped later in in Oakland. Get get her sharpness back and she's always going to play Devil's in Australia. But she can carry that into into Melvin. I think I I do feel that if she were to go to the Australian Open another. This is impossible but if you ended Australian Open and we're playing best to five now. I think she'd win the title without question just because she would have time against everybody play and whether whatever storm of format come away there is still that danger that somebody it gets hot against her and she doesn't recovering taty but as we said at the time the USA funded felt like that could have gone different food festival. I feel like a lot of the big matches that Serena's lost recently. Could meanwhile obviously Eboni. We'd like to been pretty different. Had they've been played the best define nine or she has started so slowly and all of the last four slam finals. I think as a staff that she's lost her opening service game on her second service game in all of them and she she isn't she's getting behind and having to fight back and she's she's playing opponents who are playing really well so it's always it's GonNa be difficult But it's interesting. You mentioned the US Open final of a slave big story that's happened. This week is and rescue is out of the Australian Open which is both completely gutting but also I think really significant. When we're talking about Serena I think it's almost as significant kinds? Is this title. We agree is of all players. Even if Serena's plane while I think rescuers possibly capable of beating or even if surrealism I agree and also I think just kind of mathematically her being out pushy suing up into a top seed which can be significant kind of her. Being out of the way Serena and helping her draw yeah logically as well I think Serena wants to feel like this is in my hands if I I play my best. Yep I've got this you know if I play my best thing is is big especially in finals. Obviously but I I think she she she would never admit it publicly Mino even admitted herself deep down she probably knows and thinks what you just said David that even the best undress. He's probably probably gotta on a good day. 'cause she's almost like I don't say she's mark to Serena because under scheme may never win anything else. Hopefully the fitness issues will be behind. But she's the closest thing that I've come across in a plaid. I mean I think a soccer is got a little bit of that. That ex factor as well. They're completely different character. It's it's it's the total conviction and and lack of self consciousness about rescue chick swanning around around Australia rigs is is. It's been there for months already. Did you see that video. By the way that Wimbledon unimpeded where after she didn't keep up with the Hashtag content she played her first match in Auckland and Wimbledon in very good video they video. Celebrating the first matches Serena Williams is a thirty eight year old Although her two thousand and ten self might might not have been that impressed with it because in a two thousand and ten clip Wimbledon. She is shown to say if I'm on court thirty eight and what you to personally escort me off it. There's no way I need to be out here thirty eight. That's no one left from Steve. Redgrave Atlanta nine ninety six. Wasn't it versus two thousand Sydney. And you have permission to shoot me if you see me in another thanking thanking the rowing boat. That's not what they called. Is it the coxless fours. Yeah that's the event. What do you think we use both on the tennis? podcast in in the boat. He's Eh were under the age of probably twenty five for peanuts where that references Yeah he's just want his gold medal in the coxless fours at Atlanta Ninety six thing that was the only gold medal the team. Gb One ninety-six anyway and he says if you ever see me in a boat again. You've got my permission shaped me. And then he won gold and then he won't go for us. This this ten years Serena. I've been doing research Stephen Curry until two thousand four as well. Now I think he did so Serena Point in two thousand and ten Wimbledon had depending on when she gave that quote at either one twelve or thirteen slams at that point aged twenty eight. Wow so so she's she's one basie nine ten over ten in her thirties right so really. Yeah I mean one assumes that that is just that underlines the point that it's history history alone really that is why why she still out here doing this. Of course it is an an. It's an IT comes from but it in it isn't from federal. Is it no. Yeah you're right up to T flipping of me. They right although I mean. Of course it is with the federal already. Has the men's records in terms of slams for now. That's not to say that. I don't think Serena Williams enjoy joyce centers. I think she loves competing a little thing. He loves the winning. She loves being a champion all that but I mean I think she would have been completely content to call it a day and she had the record by a sufficient number. I think she probably got bored by being the sole recordholder very very different psychology. That the position that she is in an has been in the last decade to the one of federal and also Serena is up against and historic number. We know that twenty four is the number to beat in terms of slams. Federal doesn't really know what number Safe constantly being honest about eighty number. Yeah it's a moving picture in the clubhouse clubhouse score yeah Say Cross sports today. Thanks so wins. Federal in the ad the Thursday night in mobile. I think we will pretty much land and it it just it would have just come at eleven. PM You can do Internet. Pay A hundred dollars to my Miami people because I get an ungodly hour for half an hour is worse than me than view plumbing. That's Paul Yeah I think say the name. Shame down to you kickstarter back Just I think again. I'm conscious of trying not to get too swept up by everything Serena Related I. I think the Australian Open is Serena's best chance outside of Wimbledon. I think I think is a better chance for her than the. US Open to win to slam because this oh much added pressure and interest at the US Open and stress and history greatest. She's fighting there. I think it's a better chance of Wimbledon as an even better chance than women because I think the the movement is not as challenging for her in the ads right now. I know that the surface might help the serve. And all that and that's kind of what I was service functioning so well Clinton by the away I I. It just looked have a lovely rhythm to him and she was getting sixty nine percent of them in. These are good numbers really. But it's the last place you want to slam. Yeah got the good memories. She destroyed sharp over in that. Final leading. Cheers well She doesn't have Andress Cue to face party might be somebody she comes across. But we don't know how I situation might have swept up here. We are on an any even last year. Even last year it was a bit of a freak aches it with her when she wrote her against fiscal like she looked really good good in that tournament before then this is going to be out in the first round. They say were into that. Traffic is looking great. She will leave she arguably she was even more impressive than Williams this week because of the play she. It's not winning the Brisbane. She's now coached by Bennie Valve. Ado and the person who was giving the coaching was August. soundcheck who delivered one of the most entertainingly Deadpan on coaching lectures. That I've heard head this after push had won the first set against Madison keys in the final August. Half joke comes out. Kneels next to her and she goes you just total flat right now. Now you are kaput ruining your. She goes height she goes not the reason you feel like shit and this was just like internal monologue excavators just nodding your head just. Because that's how she would deliver coaching on quite sure. Just straight to the point not as graces and it was great but I mean the people fool push give a bait she. She Beats Asanka with a soccer playing really really well and I think the best tennis I saw all week was was from Brisbane. Like you had six the top ten there and you know just players you expect to do well. Did well like a lot of people who did well. Last year's Australian Open Kavita ASARCO applicable. They all did well in Brisbane and they all. They all made a statement that that tennis is looking really shop. Aw at the start of the season and Chris Cooper to be Asarco playing as well as the soccer wars was seriously impressive But there's something about Brisbane which really suits fiscal. There's no wind. It's kind of covered some. She's completely uninhibited. It allowed to play her tennis and purely her tennis. You probably would say is pretty much the best that there is when she's on her serve the way she hits also cleanly but any things you say. Her tennis was the best there is when she's on when she's completely allowed supply. I don't think she reacts well. L. To An extraneous factors exactly whereas undress go and Serena. My parents have been and I remember them coming back. It was one. They were living out there and I was visiting anyway. Dad took himself off their zone on his motorbike so he has a boat. People are gonNA start giving us money for the kickstarter. They think my daddy as I don't have a boat when she built himself a A little builds his own boat. Thanks without contrast feature will be all. You are good enough company to go on the back of the New York if any any description anyway they remember my parents. Their immediate feedback was just feels like an indoor event right Brisbane because I have kind of peo trump commentated on a lotta times from afar but what is it about the the wins all of these tournaments beforehand. I mean does. She lack a chip in her in her makeup. That stops her from peaking. Because I think there are certain players throughout the time that I've been watching tennis that I almost feel like they treat every week the same and I always cringe when a player loses slamming. Goes well the good thing about tennis. There's always next week in other words and I absolutely agree I don't know where the place covers one is. I don't know well enough to know. But she she looked she she take great pride in these titles and say she should but still funding her disservice. You might said Memory Bank. Okay I feel like sh when she first round of the French having one right I feel like she might have said something along. Those lines Certainly in my head anyway possibly unjustly. Yes she is for me. One of those plays defense mechanism to some degree. Visit to Trotta lime out like that anyway but it always underwhelmed by and I don't know whether this is a kind of lazy tight to have but you mentioned the coaching that that she had I still feel like she is potentially little to rely on that in tour events. Now I know we've seen certainly overcome that reliance and transfer it to slam him win two of them where she's not able to have that input but I don't know Piscopo is very. You never see a dual andress good date and kind of make a commitment not having on coaching tournament and she then goes into a slam You can't have it. I know it just feels like that is got to be a little bit of a factor in this for me and I wonder whether actually I only saw that one catching. I didn't see that much of Brisbane. I wonder whether Danny Valverde's view you first time coaching female plan. Maybe maybe he may have that view a little more. We'll say rush party. She loves his straight-sets. Yes so very inform Jennifer Brady. Who'd come through qualifying took Doc Sharapova? That's not that's not really a thing though isn't it And then yeah just. I didn't see much of the match against it's Ash Party so I can't comment too much on how much he was looking. But it's a sort of loss but he just hasn't been having for ages the fact that it's happened in her first on a big torn back in Australia is a little bit of a concern. She playing out late this week or is that it for her. I think she is. Yeah I think unless. She's taking a wild card which she did get she gets the doubles finals matches That's not the same name is a worry she is playing in. Yes and she's the top seed and she's playing. I I tried against Anastasia Probably Chink. Who is thrashed concert of Estonia in the first round? It's it's a really good. Join Satellites Saba linka bench. Kenan crikey packed play last week. AAC Did she say this is her only Her any won't prevent it is. It is very interesting week. This is Joe bitches playing now. He's pulled out he. He was found it so interesting that he was never planning to play. I didn't call whether whether he he he signed up for the the Rally for release the bushfires about whether that came before he pulled out of Adelaide or not. But I think it was after. Yeah okay If we have we talked about that we have. That's on Wednesday. Isn't it the for relief which is to raise money for those affected by the bushfires which is fantastic to see tennis Australia. Putting up this event with Jackovitch and Serena Williams and Roger Federer ref on the Dow wow all the biggest names in the sports or going to try to raise as much money as the Canon of the ATP gave a huge check of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars To the 'CAUSE is a couple of days ago as well So we are. I know we're talking about tennis. And where we're getting swept up in in the sport because we are a tennis podcast but we are also very mindful of what's going on out there at the moment and well we're thinking of everybody that has affected by right and we will bring you a flavor of what we experience when we're out there as well you talked about it last week and I thought put it very well. Y- you're caught between the city of irrelevance of sport in context of of zest like that but at the same time of thank goodness four score and yeah I mean ultimately thank goodness for it I really I really don't buy the the the irrelevant sport thing in the face of I. I've I've never been comfortable with that sort of reflex if everyone to say oh this frivolous stuff is relevant. Knife brings a Lotta people pleasure. And that's just as valid. That makes it even more important in the face of horrible things to particularly when the things that bring you pleasure. It's perfectly fine to get pleasure. Pleasure from sports it's also an opportunity. Is the the plaza. The tournament is showing that they can actually make a difference which which is great and and we should should probably say Serena donated all her whispered prize money to the to the relief efforts and ATP also so announced. I think it was a seven hundred. Twenty five thousand Australian dollars going to the Wildlife Fund's very good very kids are the results on the WTI Shinzan Katrina Alexandrova. BEAT ELENA RIB Akina to win the title. There Eh hits the ball very very hard and he's sure does sure does that's the Wti what about the ATP Cup the the ATP come one by severe. And I mean you you both discussed it in depth. Last week is events so I'm not going to go over all the old ground of that. What about week two of it? What about what we've seen over the last week first? Takeaways it was. It's a really big deal to that. Serbian team wasn't it to win. This I think particularly because of what happened the Davis Cup. It's it's almost like another kind of angle to it. All because I I still find the MOLTER chewed of team. Events deeply unsatisfactory. I I it doesn't work for me. I want to see all of its streamline and packaged into brilliant one but that one little narrative that Eh from a Serbian perspective that was a big a win for them then if Spain and one that when the ATP Cup yes the need because of what happened in the Davis Cup say but also an also because the Serbian following in that stadium throughout the week was so loving really mind playing I mean he had he had nanotubes imminent giving feedback to Muhammed Leon during the Jackovitch and adult much about how Lonnie should be marshalling. The Serbian support the Serbian fans. He said give up trying to speak in. Serbian may just a straight it to speak. English was really extraordinary. How many servants like not is loads in Brisbane? Also loads in Sydney like sort of Serbian communities communities in Australia are clearly huge. Well the the the big but they're also incredibly passionate about their own sports people. There is just an enormous pride in their sports people. They live through sports people And this is wonderful and I think the thing is i. I watched this a lot of the of the call. I watch pretty much. All of Serbia's matches and it was just such an an interesting dynamic to see Jovic playing in front of completely partisan crowd on his side. And he being the Ma'am the hero and not having to put up with some of the stuff that has to put up with the times and how much just embraced it loved it. I know cy I mean he did get I felt. He got pretty tight against chef of Oliver Times. Played really really well. In that much they played in the semi's was it Court courts courters is Russia against members of the Senate but he handled it and yeah I just found his body language. It was probably all expected to be. He was just he just loved it. It's what he's been waiting for. He seems to have this ability to use the crowd however he finds we've talked so much about how when it's against him. He doesn't like it so often he's been able to use it to make himself play better when it's with him he's able to use it to make himself play better as well as I think. Think I think. ATP COP has done anything for kind of how I view these players and I think it's changed a massive amount but it has made me the more convinced by Jacob. H I think than I was back in the LA season. There may be a few concerns about Jovic pitches level. You know the way. He kind of faded quite by its be finalised for example but he is looking so good. I mean who if you probably like that. No one's piecing in Melbourne the businesses. I mean to the extent that we were debating an is a it was a given unless the link man happens to the next week. We'll picking him his favorites Australia Nathan when we were debating. Would you pick the field job it said. This is not the favorite now. Here's the favorite. He's the favourite picking him. Isn't that's another matter if I agree you know. WHO's winning this ready knifeman from the Saudi? I'm asking you now. He's winning the night. Then you are not convinced shortage. We'll name me another individual. That's the thing I'm saying that the debate to be had I think about Djokovic feel feel look this another system that's basically to win. Well there isn't there isn't one. That's more likely to and this is counterintuitive but it almost feels feels like things are going to perfectly to me. I think that he has had such a high just now. I don't know if that helps. I think that is going to be the interesting because we've never had this before the other time you've had this before is when he's won the French Open and going into Wimbledon only comparible thing. But it's not safe. I know it's not the same but look him for him. This particular moment was a big deal. It was a big deal for him. But it would have been funded down. A feeder wanted. Yes experiential big Dale. You then is an Achie- an achievement. Big Deal I think it's a it's a great. It was huge. And he's loved the votes he'd been big celebrations in the crowd. And all of that. But like we saying we've said Up into his time no one is describing describing Novak Djokovic. ATP Cup when. I'm sorry but they're not now but I mean this is. This was a big deal to him. Personally that's what I'm talking about about. And I just think is different. He he will have to recalibrate and go into the Australian Open in a frame of mind and with different passed to any of the of the Australian Open titles that he's one where he's just builds up slowly interesting interesting that he is. He's to make significant adjustments to how he'd intended to prepare this Australian Open Willeke season ticket to play blades. That's what he planned for. Intended play at knowing that he big because eighty pickups round robin even if they hadn't done it he knew he was getting to get good number matches and yet he still wanted to play Adelaide. So I find that quite interesting. I the whole psychology of your thinking. He was gonNA play. I agree about that. I wonder I wonder what what was going on in his mind. We we must ask him about that crispus all year where he played eastborn wasn't this but I think you saw one sport. Yeah but that was. He'd lost early early Queens now he cakewalk. That was when he got beaten six love in the third set by eighteen. The French the cortisol or something like that for took a light wildcard Disney to respond. I don't know I just. This is a new situation that these players find themselves in and I think it's it's so tempting to just thing. Nobody will compete with him when he's playing. I that are genuine. Need the place. That can develop both competed with no well. I think if he plays like he did in the fight against the Dow in the Carpathian kaffee played even more so like. You didn't find a last year. I do think he wins. The tide is when he's played he's the best plaque in the Australian Open. Probably in the Australian opens history on the men's side but he's peaked for the Cup final and now he's got to try and peak again. So so you asking him now. David picking to win the Australian. I haven't decided that yet but I don't know I'm not accounts or picking the field. That's not the question that was my original crest interrupted and said well. We'll he's he's he's he's. He's not the individual that I'm picking. Who's not an individual now stage to the the debate is Jakovich versus the field? Stage one is to establish when you've stopped being annoying contrarian that Novak Djokovic which is the individual pick and conservative. You picking under Memphis. I've right now it's pretty years on. You Picking Denial member of What you've done is the Metronomic? metronome memory strating opened elsewhere. Take a contrarian or no the question is now David for the purposes of debate which I do on this podcast. The joke careers. I must pick an individual right now. Downhill Methodist Dub totally contrary. It's I actually. I actually think new Medvedev is the most likely to beat Djokovic grades but I I think he's the second most likely to win the title. Oddly yes I think I agree with that but I think Medvedev came. Even though CHIAPPA battle took rich to it was the third set. Tiebreak was now I think Medvedev caused Djokovic. The most problems matchup wise mental wise Medvedev Djokovic is a match. I want to see who the other players do. You feel. That could beat Djokovic unless I'm not talking about if jockey which is injured or or if he's suddenly completely lost his form but if he's plays at a an eight hundred ten level Dole who can still beat him. Team sits pass federal. I would put Federer in I still think con one amazing David Rinky can do. I mean a nature who issues injured in New York when our federal neither. Neither one of you really with me on that. Oh we've got we've got no evidence. In the past. Seven years that he can mm beat Djokovic. Over five sets came very close at Wimbledon. But he didn't do it. The Dow again on a hardcore. That matchup is this is fresh. I would say any hulk. He's not WANNA set against occupation. How court since twenty seventeen was playing the end last year I would have gone for it? Had to play each other Davis. Yep Gone Fernando yet but would you have gone down because because of the fact that was in Spain there was something extra for Dahl Melton plane out of his mind is isn't it and I think I think that's the thing for a a gun by the way I feel about it is the HBO was not career. Defining the Jackovitch in the way that winning Davis Cup was at the end of that season was for a long time. I I definitely agree with that. I just think that it still it kind of made it into his Davis Cup because he because well. That's the best do isn't it. I mean he could win the Davis Cup. This year Maybe we'll end of the year. Inter interesting what you were saying about Peking Ford to become bringing federal into the conversation. I mean he's not had any any tennis so he's obviously going to be completely taking the Australian Open. Does that does that. Do you think he is another van. Six then compared to the the fact that he's rested or not played is probably I would favor for his supporters. Say I would hope he gets so time drool because he you know he needs to plays waited a bit. Kevin Anderson in around one is the kind of Kevin Addison's unseat and he looked. I'm good at. HP caught us to sort of that would be a nightmare. I mean he ceded. Kevin Anderson is everyone's worst nightmare. Admittedly Federer has enough off-the-record skill. The if he happens to feel good on any given day can play tennis. The you only dream about jury had twenty eighty seventeen and I know a reuben I think in scrunchy I really irks pelser. Suddenly Thomas Berbick and it hasn't Thomas Burke any earlier that he'd been in a tidy different co knuckle the outlook. I watched the look on his face. He looked so drawn. We want that when when he didn't play in the doubles that was. That was a moment where I feel that you have to just acknowledge the state is the competition. Yeah I oh I think it was really a good tournament. I've roll it was well run It was well presented as we always thought it would be. It's not what it was being. They're still too much of this light. You got it live. Cut Making out that. It's the most important thing ever and it's There's there's nothing wrong with their tattoos or well. You know we know there's a situation here that just doesn't make any sense. I went around my mom and dad's house last night and my mom said to me. What's the point of this one that playing at the moment they just have this? She said now she's quite difficult to answer that if she she likes to she watches it. She listens to us but she doesn't make any sense to her. And so this these are problems but there were lots so good things about it as well. I D I definitely think it was. It was more entertaining than the other kind of typical warm up tournaments. That you the you get I thought overall and we got some amazing memories of matches you think of Dan Evans against demon ore and That doubles the British team. Played which they lost Jamie Murray has some have one in particular very bad memory match. But I mean McDowell basically he he would not have pulled out if that had been the Davis Cup final all. The Sea Madrid elevates things. Because it's his country but he he also wouldn't have done that. I don't think had Australian Open. Not being just around the corner he prioritized. You have to hurt this problem with so many of these things where Clara priorities So that's one side but I would worry about being the last the course and enough said that before about him improved from because he's the most extraordinary athletes and competitor. I think I've ever seen but could miss me. He needs his canister recharging sharpish. Yes yes bad time of year to require recharging I mean. Maybe he's going to have to approach. The season like federal has talked about before as in the Post Australian Open period being his off season. Oh No folks addition this this is Catherine getting a phone call. This is telling us that needs to take off her patch which she started wearing and attend to infected which record hourly treatments at the moment so matinee will count including living through the night so yes we have to feel very very sorry for sensory cue all night yes it is but fortunately the shedule is that it will be source about timing US yesterday. So the countdown clock on my phone staff. The it's like twenty four. I'm Jack Jack Bauer if if I if anyone's ever seen lost where they where they have to push a button every hour to survive yep stressful. Yeah well this is the this. This is real life in a way I could was rebecca historic goods. Did he was beaten a tool by anybody. Well he went he went six. Six wins zero losses in his singles. The slight caveat to that and a problem with HP come is the four of those matches were against players ranked outside the top hundred. I mean and three of those were you know like a lot outside at the top one hundred and how. How good is that preparation for fouts Easter Goo? And we'll say he won. You know you you get points based on the caliber above opponent. The face at become he got four wins in the first four matches in earlier only earned eighty five points. You know that's whereas done and one hundred fifty grand moved up. Ten ranking spoke to a career high thirty three in the world so eldon down remember. He's done well for nate. SPEAK UP I was quite sold on it by the end of the week. Experience Surely Ralian aglow of enjoyment from watching pound for pound that were more individual matches that I was pumped about watching probably on aggregate than they would have been firmin from normal tour event and I was not sold on the meaning of it and I as previously discussed. I resent having the meaning meaning of it randomly throwing. I just don't think that's necessary because it's too cool thing. Enjoy it for what. It is see Labour coupole ad infinitum. I'm happy Joe still think absolutely Brian to make it a make it. A combined event. Tennis Australia who've announced that they intended. WJ Cup next year. I mean still seems bonkers to me. They still feel like guys. You had the Hoffman Cup. Anyway throws quite sold in. It is an experience and lots of individual joe matches that I loved enjoyed with pumped about. I did find myself watching Nidal Jovic going into the doubles. Seen as an adult all pulled out of the doubles I found my interest level plummeting because I'm nailing a hugely interested in in the doubles Camacho up in itself needle versus Jakovich and doubles. I'm really interested in But just to sort of doubles match that joke vincis in not that interested in a match up and I wasn't I didn't think the stakes without high wasn't interested that much me outcome. I know well they seem to jubilation. I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything to Serbia team. I suspected to be victims which does mean an awful lot and as experience lived in DC which is on a massive high but off rim ten. Eighty P cups or one Davis Cup. And you take Davis Cup honestly. No I read. Unless are only colleges about that competition I regional anyone's describing Jackovich's an ATP cup winner and title Wise. I agree with you. I don't i. It didn't really feel like that was the point. The point was talismans. No I I understand that but I think the point to him when you say offer him ten to one another exaggeration but my point would be the meaning to him was to be in front of a a stadium full of adoring fans from all with Serbian heritage. Who all felt what he felt? And we're all in it for the same cause whether whether or not it's a kind of silly that regardless of if trying to confirm meaning on the actual title but without the title you wouldn't have Oh sees Hewlett Hotline Cup. I think we've never seen Jovic in how we got. I think the problem is when you've got so many team team events like even even team events like we've got Davis Cup. The meaning becomes so individual is based on your experience at that tournament went rather than the overall meaning theme kind of the same for everyone you know. They end up meaning Morphou Serbia than the Davis Cup because because they wanted people who were able to watch more of the ATP Cup because of the time zone or whatever or because they have struck a TV deal in the US will end up thinking that they should be better than we might think that. The Davis Cup meant more. Because we committed to doing daily podcasts. We we know we. We were watching it. I was there. I was more invested in it rather than a kind of global meaning for everyone you get fragmented meaning and that. That's not what you want. Every time I watch one of these team events I come away thinking these great The match is a great doubles doubles is elevated. You get more from the players but wouldn't just imagine if it was a fifth slam. I can't say any more straightforward in that. Imagine if all of them were just pulled Fed Cup Davis Cup. Easy lay up. Let's create the fifth slim and men women just dementia. Amazing part of the problem is I was going through the list. STEVE CRITERIA AT A. Everyone wants taking off from these team events and you can't just everything in one event you know because some people want home and away ties as some people want a World Cup style. Most people I think men and women together we certainly do but you could have one round of I agree. Yeah I think for me I kind of feel like in my head I solve the issue I was thinking I was kind of thinking why he met sorted it. Why don't we have you know? Hotline combat started yet a mixed team event in the kind of full matt of the ATP. So it's played across the different cities it's got room mm to breed is the start of the season ever ranking points. ATP WJ together and then every other year you've got. The Davis Cups played every other year and every other year. And you've got two rounds of home and away and a finals. You know I think then you get your team event you get your home the way you get points of different so there's more meaning son sold on David still wants one event and I do get that but I think we're at a point now where I don't think you can get all these desires into one event Mr too many. I think you could. Everyone wants to do it. You could do it by. I'm going to come up with a blueprint. Okay right leave it with me right. Okay say on the one thing that really struck me what she needs to become is. How should've you've emotional men were by? Can we jump Tibet's now. The idea that is only like uncle. Oh coaching I think one of the problems with only having it in the women's game has created this false idea that it's only the women women on the court who are emotional and kind of you've the men I mean there was serious grounds for disqualification or default best case it surpass on admits this pussy wide consensus. That had that not been brackets. The facts that we're entering that into the equation again points to a bunch of other things but probably should have been defaulted Consciously recalculated way bashing his racquet into the posture and Diego Schwartzman. Seems like the nicest man in the world. CODA media to fakes like you're not Medvedev stick PICO PICO. Absolutely wars and occasionally push it. Push the boundary of what's acceptable but more agro acceptable acceptable. People need to you know when talking about the women's game I think it's fine then as well. Yeah they can't find the men's and a massive problem in the women just sangram delays of emotions that are associated with being feminine law instantly associated with fragility with his Typically would've considered to be typically mask limitations or the expression the masculine expression automations i-it's sort of anger and aggression those are somehow perceived in a in a different way to think about the lens through which you perceiving leaving the tiers of perceived as weakness whereas sort of an aggressive angry outburst received. Some sort of show a strength. Will I think that perception comes from a place of unconscious bias. Yes like the irony of somewhere pointed out on twitter with The irony of Merit sophon making the comments. He did back in the day about women being to to to play tennis. He likes breaking kingsview. Rackets per match. You you actually broke fifty plus in a year ones anyway just different types of emotional expression his his compatriot Andrei Rubel champion in Doha. Which I have to sad and see a ball off Wasn't on crime. He didn't drop a set. He he was twenty-eight draw. What twenty eight draw second? That's like a thirty two and then we'd four by competition And I told you we blades big. It is often running and that's about it before flight in which I will not be reclined on by Catherine which Because I refuse to sit behind climbing on someone may it's fine six million anyway. I'll try to keep keep composed. We have some shoutouts to make before we sign our folks to kickstarter backers Nikola Ada Patch and Carolina alcock. Thank you all very much for supporting the tennis. PODCAST which so many of you done one thousand three hundred fifty six people last look have supported the tennis podcast so far this year. 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The French Open Catch-Up with Joel & Kim: Semifinals - Djokovic topples Tsitsipas despite fightback; Nadal gets revenge over Schwartzman; witek marches on with Podoroska blitz; Kenin overcomes Kvitov; Final previews + predictions

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The French Open Catch-Up with Joel & Kim: Semifinals - Djokovic topples Tsitsipas despite fightback; Nadal gets revenge over Schwartzman; witek marches on with Podoroska blitz; Kenin overcomes Kvitov; Final previews + predictions

"Hello ladies suggests would come to the passing show the tennis class by fans I'm Joe I'm Kim and today we are looking back on the semi finals at the French Open. Thank you. Came we've just had our semifinals of the of the men's Today we know off. I lists for the beds we list for the women's and. Immediately. I mean we're according to stray off the Novak. Djokovic. Stephanos. Surpass epic epic match where Passerby was always got a dairy to do the unthinkable. It didn't happen but I mean this game, it was absolutely fantastic match when we've had again some absolutely fantastic matches in the semi final stage across by the the men's competition and the women's competition we're GONNA. Be Talking about all of the well, the big talker points really from days by V as draws. Over the last couple of days, previewing the finals as well and looking back on the the wheelchair and doubles events But we've got obviously saw with the men's section will come onto jackovitch pass because really that was that was the main event, the match preceding it was found out your favorite player against Diego Schwartzman and. I really I mean, the Dow came through that in in three sets it was kind of grueling opening game. There are a few tricky passages, the Dowell in that third set but really it didn't. It didn't really kind of live up to you. I think you know potentially. Maybe Rafeh fans were thinking in terms of you know banana skating You know the fact that. One against Rafa in in Rome It didn't really live up to that and again, it just kind of Maddow just kind of moved on and. He's moved into the Phi without without dropping a set and yeah, I think he's into his thirteenth final Schwartzman it felt like he was going to pose more problems than he actually did. Yes I as a Rafeh Fan I was quite relaxed. Watching this much actually chose say that was maybe a mockery of how how once the match could have underway thought she knew this is a different you know different scenarios. In Reference Bang so much better than needed him. Rame Diego Schwartzman was not playing quite as well, and they had a really long first game. It was about fourteen minutes long and I think after half an hour, they'd already done four games. It was close you get me wrong. They both options to break and and they did exchange breaks in in these games but. I always felt that. If you look at the end of the first day, know some play probably as well as as he was going to play the day and yet he still sat and from there you know it's an uphill battle Toronto win three sets against Russia at Roldan Garros? Times and I think that would have demoralized in quite a lot to his credit. He didn't give up. Schwartzman was very. was saying in the last episode, he's. He's like new effort fray just keeps going coming out a bit of a terrier around the core and I definitely got that sense he he he did. Give it his all to the very end and I did pay off a bit in the third set 'cause rougher sort of went off the boil. And Diego was therefore there to to kind of keep breaking back every go ahead. He would. He would come back and they would. Break and ravages opt opt another gay right at the very into. Its dominate tiebreak and Yeah, he's into his thirteenth railing Gareth final, which is crazy. can't quite believe it to be honest with you and you when you think of the numbers, it's mad and I think Schwartz be very pleased if we if we consider him for a second, you know he didn't he didn't put himself to shame in that semifinal. I think it was. It was a lot more comfortable than I had she thought it might be going in going into the match, which is a bit of a relief maybe. Yeah I mean the Dow Me Nedal did up, he opt level for Brian. I think we've got to remember with that. You know that road match. Get. Schwartzman. Yeah. That was his that was his I told back like. It it bugs Schwartz was his first real challenge. So. We can cut him. A little slack collegiate Schwartz we did not in that situation I. Think you know maybe some fans may be looked to that match to be like, Oh, my God Nidal's Pasta etc up. Once we got very long Gallas. Really he's been in. I think he's I. Think he still had todd time to kind of find his feet but really you know he showed. Again. Schwartzman. He showed against sinner as well the even when they're playing really well. It doesn't necessarily get away settle load. That loan the match. INS. Today he was able to you know his game to a level the Schwartzman? I don't think Schwartzman it was able to do. I, think he played you know as well as he did. In Rome, it's just the Dow played better and and even when Schwartzman was able to kind. Dictate, play particularly in that. So if that sat and was able to kind of snap at heels a needle, the Dow was able to find a you know an extra gear in that. You know particularly in that tiebreak where he literally kind of just slammed the door shut on Schwartzman who might have been looking at thinking who I could take a this to a full set but now know. The Dow, gave him a little a little mini tie-break. Bagel. To kind of finish things off and. I mean it going to be pretty happy with that I mean straight-sets. Three. He's dropped a set kind of going into. Dropped to set going into the final I, mean, how how did you think of his preparations go as as French Open sky kind of going into the final because he's Schwartzman wolves the his first seeded player that he actually faced this tournament, which is quite remarkable really that it was. The semi final stage. So you know we're onto Novak Djokovic in in a minute but like. It's going to be even a bigger is going to be a big step up then. Potentially what he's faced over the last. Six matches. Yeah. I mean definitely there have been tougher draws to come through. Grand Slam. But schwartzman sinner have provided rough with with some tests you know he He hadn't really had any tests. So I think you do need obviously going into final against the world number one you need to have some sort of adversity three union and come surro-. It spinoff maybe whether rough is to dig deep enough I think the cinema should have been more of a test kind of especially the first set, but the conditions for that match. And the kind of the lateness of it. Didn't happen on the final I mean it might be it might be really cold on Sunday, but it's going to be in the middle of the day at least. But Yeah I think he's been playing better as tournaments going on of see hasn't dropped a set. And that's that's Baker. He he's not spent too much time on core I. Think he's had the amount of time. He's not coming into the final massively fatigue or anything. And to be honest with you even if even if he was going into the final massively fatigued, we've we've seen three mammoth semi's before and still manage to get it in the final but. I mean refugee status arrived and our saw. Like he has never lost a semifinal or Fino at this tournament and. He's he's one nine, thousand, nine matches I needless to say he'll be going phase one, hundred, th match win at Roland Garros on on Sunday A. I. Just. Is Crazy but I want to I mean yes that's great. But I think. I think Novak's Charles in this final will be the biggest giants they've had I. think to be Rafeh in NFL and O'hare. He's beaten him opposite called final five years ago. But I think with the conditions in the balls being different, this'll be I. I'm less. I'm less confident is about referees chance on Sunday. Which I. Think being negative I. think that's a fair. Assessment. because. I think. The Dow was kind of preparation shouldn't coming into the French Open wouldn't have been. You know what he would have wanted it to. As you said the conditions nor in his favor, it did really feel like this was a if there was ever going to be at at one point in the Dow's career about the Fred Open that this was going to be. A time for you know upset all the time that he wasn't gonNA, win it. This might be the one but. I think. Makes it even more remarkable? He's been able to kind of, yes. He's been able to kind of defeat your position. Across the other side of the net, but he's also managed to. Put everything else to one side. You know the preparation, the conditions he's battle that the late night finishes or should I say early morning finishes? He's he's banished to kind of put that away and still do what he said what he do, what he does best and even when even when it's it's not necessarily been in his favor. He showed that that Grand Slam winning toughness that I think has really kind of. Elevated him above you know above all is opposition even when they're playing, you know really really good tennis. But. I think there is a question I still think there there is a question in terms of the quality of opposition he's faced so far I mean to say the gave him a test in one set. Schwartzman. gave him a test in in another set. Is. Has Been. Enough of a test is has that been enough of adversity that Nidal his kind of seen that's going to prepare him for someone like you know Novak Jock rich I know they played the countless times before but you know in this moment at this Grand Slam. The as with the lack of preparation, the RAFA has had. You know maybe it would. Maybe. It would have been better almost. Dare I. Say to maybe even lose just to know that sort of you know position is like where he's not Constantly A- An. Either that seems kind of a silly thing to say but. It's it's something about you know something about I. Guess You're making sure that you able to read. You've had those moments where you've able to. Come three and over it's kind of happens on a sort of a mini scale I. think you're in. Almost, kind of battles within sets its he's not really been. A more adverse position than that. Really. Yeah and I mean we could say the same day we'll get onto the women's five at eight about eager to She's just steamrolled her way through. So she hasn't had the chance to we haven't seen her having to really dig deep from behind, for example. I mean, certainly you know this guy, the RAF is facing on Sunday in nature which has basically what he hasn't really lost so much. This whole year has a I mean eighty loss to align judges Angela, the USA USA. I just think Y- If you if you look at the form that back in. An email I know he's had this five tonight but really that to be honest with the. Like no that was playing so so well in the first fees at seen, he was so ruthless on this breakpoints. Pass I. Think he was lost the world liver point because he had he had John's on their back serve but that was just see pre on all the breakpoints. He would save all of his an convert. The ones he had on sits passes seven. Auso. Gosh he's just. Controlling and dictating everything any moments that his opponents have he's just able to swap them away. And you know you've got to take your opportunities against against this bias and I think rough is. Get them three night back on Sunday he is absolutely got to be completely order. Say on a on those key people. Is Anything that you're which gives him. He's got totally. There's no room for kind of carelessness. No Room for being lax today's I. Know He knows that he's not stupid obviously. He's been in this situation before a it's it's just a navy is just I feel like he's just this year he's just been kind of unplayable at times because he's just being so so good. Just say. I think with Nadal I. Think I still think there is an air of I don't i. don't see this is sort of a don't see him like completely. Invincible I think there is still a little bit of. Vulnerability about him I think we'll give. You Know Novak. A chance and yeah, I just don't think I don't think so far. Maybe the players Nidal has come up against have been able to potentially exploited that vulnerability beyond. A breaking, serve sinner serving for the first etc.. So I think question will be is you know if there is vulnerability that to kind of to exploit. Is No you're going into exploited, and if we do move onto kind of talking about festival Jock itch versus it pass your which came through in five sets. Fantastic match surpass showing. You know what? A talent what a prospect Ta's I think a real kind of. He lost a real coming of age moment in defeat. Djokovic. Coming through six, three, six to five, seven, six, four, six, one in fifth. But really I think this match was it was almost kind of a tale of break points because. Jovovich was tightly kind of refocus. As he said, it's kind of you know in the first two sats really kind of coasting along surf the match in the third sat and I think at that point, CISA pass was open ten I think on on breakpoints. Marriage. Just kind of it. It just kind of totally turned on its head. Eight and then I think she sits best thing three consecutive breaks of the nave seven array which is. Very ironic considering he couldn't get ready for Love nor money in the first he sets. Yeah I was really please you know just watching it. It's best managed to make him out Chevette I would. I. Sort of when. I. saw this has been really quite disappointing match. Actually I thought. is going to kind of really truly shows us what we think he's capable of you know we'll it just take him like years and years before he's kind of the stage where he can really challenge the top players you know in the deep stages of Islam I know he had that win against Federer at the shape then oversee he came up against Raffarin conical thrash. So I thought this is going to be like just that kind of semi again. where he was kind of white co- almost. So he he's showed that he has matured and improved since that law semifinal he was in a slam. And took it to five, and like you said I think Novak has lost from a match point up before but no slam and certainly not from two sets and a match point up. So he was basically nose it's was trying to do the impossible. Novak remained so calm in that fifth say he never sort of looked. Even close to. I never thought he would actually lose even when it went to a fifth. So I thought my Gosh I didn't expect it to get this for, but you know I don't think anyone really expected sits best to go all the way. Out She looked tired I thought was as. v Sang of waiting on. An. Injury was hampering yeah. He had treatment in the full set. Didn't he for like a left like a left hip issue or something? So I didn't know how how relevant? I mean talking about injury. Before it went into the match. We were kind speculating about Novak's neck. He'd been having issues with against PC, but that didn't seem to be an issue each day yet no taping on the net. So I'm seeming the that's Resolved itself. which is fortunate for him if say. Yeah. That was interesting because that was the kind of going into this instance match whether there was a fitness dot over jock rich. I mean, we didn't really see anything. She said it was tape or any sort of obvious. You know obvious Aleman on the core. So. I don't know what what is an he's hiding it or you know he's taking something for it and he didn't village in the match. But yeah, it Felt D. Surpass almost was the one who was physically could not full set I mean well, I think actually kind of impressed me was how he reacted I mean he's I. Remember like surpassed loss to revive I think from two sets off in the USA Putin he lost to. Charles. Yeah. Sorry from two sets up in the US. Open most rebe laboratory in Hamburg when you ought to have one. And I think you know in this in this match the situation when he was. Two Sets Dow match point down. He easy could have just given up an lost in three but. He showed I think he's kind of you know those that fighting quality in him that. He's going to give up so and even when he had. Looked like a leg injury or certainly being hampered by leg in that force at. He still was he still kept going and he I think he kind of adopted his game in the sense that he became a little bit more aggressive and who's getting rid points bit more winners and Again. He was able to kind of you know got out. In in that full set and I, mean, he really impressed me in that fourth set because Novak save he breakpoints almost it's by serve Ya I think he had three in one game to in the next and then another one and he'd say many and sits by saved more so. That was really impressive and it's such a contrast to the first sets and I'd overseas it's just clinched. That's set right the donate access say that was that was fantastic to see him making the most of these moments and oversee the fifth set that kind of just reverse mortgage a back to. Back to how it was before. As it's all. Wore him down. But yeah, I think he should take a lot of. that. He's got lots of Galvao, his performance today overrule and how he managed to get back into the match. I think he should be ready ready quite encouraged by that and Yeah I mean maybe he's if he's in that situation again, it will be. Get. Light. Dominate team you know eventually event she's got that it's just can take time. If you know three five knows eat at. Low Mattress but you know it just takes means it's buses but younger than here I think. It's GonNa, take a bit but more time. Eight daffy felt like that sort of match for Fisa. Of CD win it on the less. It feels a very significant. Learning cornerstone I think in his career cy fought very important match. The I think he'll reflect on and learn and learn a lot from in terms of kind of what it takes to to win a grand. Slam. And you know he's been. You know he's been like he Z. Efface Federer, the Australian. He's play these sorts of players in the big three before the stay each. But yeah, I think he'll take a lot of it will take a lot of heart for full I think I think you know from you know from watching it on TV I. think he would have one load of fans as well as I. Think a lot of fans liked to see that hall that commitment and real you make a game of it and It wasn't really much of a game in those first you know those first two sets which was I wouldn't say it was system passes fo i. mean he hates the exceptional tested particularly that facet. Jock itch level was just so. Phenomenal really. Really. Kinda Dick the blocks really quickly. Surpassed kind of grew into his own. As, the match went on and yeah. At least he took it to fifth I think I think he's going to have to. Think about I mean he looks pretty side of the it looks like he wanted to give more than he could have felt like his body was kind of. Failing on him but you know that will be I think a lesson. He'll learn to kind of go away to make sure that you know when he is inevitably going to be in. These situations in the future at Grand Slam tournaments. He's GonNa be he's GonNa be more ready for it I. I still think it's best like I didn't think he suddenly going to be as consistent as a dominate team has become in slams I think I think he still prone to an early first week loss like like we saw in the Abra. I think getting that consistency in console gain deepen slams will be his next kind of go because I. I still have question marks at the moment about. His his kind of consistency in slams Sam oversea that's still to come and plenty of time to to work on that by me. Let's just look at the final obviously nave. They're going to be meeting for the fifty six talk, which is ridiculous. It is the the rivalry in the era at least in the men's game that has the most number of meetings. Navy leads the head to head twenty, nine, twenty six, and in finals he leads it sixteen eleven. rougher the in slabs is nine six up on the head to head out. Of course, right on garrels. He has a winning record. He's any lost the one match T to today back here That matches one of too much. Is that referes loss event say? It's Audit. How you WANNA look at the stats really I mean Rafeh listing they're both going for making history with whichever way the result goes because if referendums his getting his thirteenth title at Rolling Irs which is insane. I mean twelve is insane. Thirteen is even crazier I mean. But here we going for his Twentieth Slam Toy Story for which would tie rotor. Federa. and oversee Novak if wins he'll become the first at Mayo player to have won two slams of sorry to have one at least twice each of the slams. An even Raffarin Roger have. NOT HAVE NOT BEEN OUT Steve say. It's whichever. What which will ever happens of record will shatter somewhere. Yeah I. Think I mean I, think for me kind of looking. Paulus. For the last two weeks I I still think Jovic has has hit a higher level, the needle and. If you're able to find that level. Particularly, the level he was at in earlier rounds where he was just swatting away opponents losing minimal games if he can kind of find that level and replicated in the final I don't think I mean I. Think Nadal is GonNa. Is going to have to find a level. He's no actually got to this tournament. I still think I still think there's an extra gear that Nidal can go to that. We have not seen I. think he will need to go to that gear in order to to win that thirteenth title. I expect. To. Use to use a phrase I'll use used a few episodes. I. We're in for a ding. Dong. Ding Dong between Donald. Dong Ding Dong. Each. And it wasn't. It was just a mini Ding Dong. This going to be there's going to be a full five-set Ding Dong I can. Handle stress is. I think yeah. I think I mean this is this is going to shape up to be one of the you know really intriguing match because. You know the fact that the conditions on so. Going to be so in favor of of Nidal Luma axes leveler, and that might be the opportunity for Jackovitch to to come through. But at the same time, he knows your Mitch might have you know we nephews go any injury concerns that you might re hockey during the match what level is is he? IS HE GONNA be fatigued from? His match with with surpassed because he has. He has come through. You know a battle I mean he's obviously been a more. He's been in. West dishes before guy gets. into grandson finalist but you know it's Yeah. I think for me Jock kind of starts is the. As a slight favorite. Like obviously a lot of people on paper would think rough is one and twelve times. Of course he's the favourite is his court but actually. If you look at kind of just their records. This year and the last couple of times they've played. Novak I think is one fourteen of their last eighteen meetings including Australian Open final last year, which was very one sided. So for me, if I'm if I'm looking kind of more recent times and the conditions. It's colder. The Booze Defra Zita. The conditions generally favor effort as March. Novak's level has I think I do agree that he has been playing at a high level. And I think actually this much. will say probably have helped him potentially going into the final as well as had to kind of come through a mini onslaught. From an opponent, he suddenly he plays inspired for for set and a bit so. I. Think my my. Says nobody. My head says that all of as factors would mean Nasdaq. Technically I. Think. Is the favorites. Calm you'll. Neighbor I love ref over sleigh and I want him to edit in my heart says the obviously one. Hundred Seven Rafi twin. Obviously. But I, just saw I. Just being an, I've always quite negative I'm always I'm always like. Rap. Is. Going to do because if I, say that then it's like a reverse logic, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Extremely motivated and I think. I think what the statistics doesn't say is the fact the jock which will be feeling like you had the USA put on his racket. Had A bit of a silly argument and it wasn't on his racket and he will be you know he's come into this might kind of looking to to prove a point and. What better way to do that than to be rough on the dial in his? In his backyard Roland Garros. Some flu shot trae on. Sunday. So yeah. So it's it's it's shaping up to be a fan of fascinating encounter in this in this rivalry, I mean. Jovovich lease it won't thousand, eight, hundred, twenty, six, I mean. Is Is. Is Close to cool? Fed fans will will to win because S. Obviously raffard equal Federer's. Twenty tape. Novak if he wins so bill more eighteen. So inevitably sooner or later he's GonNa. Take both of them I would imagine. Butts. Listeners, who do you think? Any Fed fans that listen to us. For like he generally switch your allegiance to if you'll man's no in the final in any. Naval rougher. Let he who your Bait. It I think it would be. A. Big. Quite funny. Little funny I think it would be you. We know Raffarin federal all kinds of friends. Of Coal and. I think that GONNA end on the equal number of subtitles but I quite like the idea of them for at least a. Big. Beagle twenty and I think that would set it up. That would set it up really nicely for the Australian Open could you imagine rather a rapper? Roger Final. On. Twenty. Slams. But Yeah I think. I think I think it's definitely a very interesting question because you know if Novak does win, he does he will see inch closer and. I think you'll see that the variety feeling the at some point jock Fitch will become yeah he's a little bit younger will become the outright. Holder of most grand. Slam titles in the Pinera. Yeah I think I mean I'm Mari Fads. Ask Us. Yeah I I'm I'm I would still. Yeah. I'm. So if you had to put you on the spot came I'm to have to go. You have to go against. You Man I think I'm gonNA. have to go jock Itch Jackovitch, and five. Okay Yeah I've got to predict sets. I'm just GONNA. Say. Well. I. Mean I've predicted refer to set say like, Oh, I want to it obviously, but I think I I'm thinking back thousand. Clay but I just I'm thinking back to the Australian Open last year and I'm thinking Rafeh was playing pretty well in that tournament I think he hadn't sat. And then got the final and it was like completely different situation say that's what I'm getting back on their lost their last final that they played. Joe Anti really no I don't read those Neville I think Nidal is because some people are saying crazy. Editions, role full Blah Blah Blah, and then he's already he's face. One seeded player is really. It's just really hard to tell where you what? Do you think? Well we'll go into this. We're GONNA have a short break, but then we'll be discussing the women's fine on whether that's any easier to predict. which that's a whole nother question say yeah we've actually. Rule the dame, the plant based way with the new Vegan Mixed Berry from smoothie king powered by whole non GMO fruits, oat milk and vegan protein. It's dairy free plant based SMOOTHIE. You can feel great about with thirteen grams of protein and half your daily fiber. It's an easy way to get the essential nutrients. Your Body Craves, skip the line in order online for pickup or delivery smoothie king rule the day. So Joel Women's is also eager sean tech versus severe. Tell you think anyone would have had that final? Predicted for. Soon. As I saw the jewel. I mean. Eat A survey I could say I could have possibly aid in the final perhaps the double Bagel as rancor in rhyme maybe no. But I mean, they've done tremendously well to come through their respective roles I mean, let's look eager field take i. because as we know she has been steamrolling highway through the singles droll on the doubles draw up to stay. She got she has lost her doubles semifinal says she wait be competing both finals this weekend But yeah, she she has. She said he dropped. Out Well I mean she's been plaguing three that the most games his doctor and say is for that was back in the second round, and since then it's been ones twos and threes and set scoreline she's just been so dominant. So impressive the semi-finals was not much different I. was there I mean she was up against Nadia Puerto Oscar qualifier ready a great fairy tale story that varies. That fairytale story was put an abrupt halt. With she on winning I mean really route really six, two, six, one She's really kind of in a sense that you know that win against Halla she has been installed as the bookies favourite even though she's completely unseeded his discuss this is really kind of come out of nowhere. And yes, she's just kind of taken that. That's labeled as the favourite in her stride and should not so far. Really. Affect game and I think it was interesting. You know I think in a in a press conference. She was kind of asked. You know he kind of model your game on growing up sets no. No, not really. I watched a lot of Rafah the towel. and. You. Suggested earlier, but she's literally doing like an a dial on the on the women's side. Just. steamrolling the tournament, not dropping a set and you know playing in a fantastic tennis and. I it was just it was just the same put Rosca did not have any ons to the questions that. was was throwing and. It's just fascinating because she's not Kim she's nineteen years old. And she already has a game the is it looks very mature. A is a very I. Think it's you know there's no real obvious weaknesses I think. Potentially argument to say serve could be a bit more varied. Maybe a few more free points, but I mean be on that I mean. Nineteen years old. She's a yet. She's she's definitely going to be one what for the future. Yeah I mean she's a pretty complete game and the power and the speed of her groundstrokes is just a amazing. It's funny. Isn't it? Because she to look? She doesn't look like a super powerful. We'd a player like she. She's quite slight isn't she? I mean see very strong and and she's always done a lot of work physically as well. But it's sort of surprising that she can generate search shots such pace. Dayton if that's because I knew there was some talk about had daddy's to make her or maybe still does. Practice her groundstrokes while standing on like a paddleboard. Say today she's baby had a slightly unconventional. Training regime was up being the dads an Olympic rower I think say. Maybe we should get out the we should out the. Balancing. Hits of GROUSE. Yeah. Because Yeah I mean she hit twenty three winners in in semi final She's lost I mean she lost just just twenty games. She'll just twenty games either through two semi final she lost three more to that. So many three. Yeah I. Mean it's going to be a real surprise if. can take on paper anyway if can kind of take. You know take successful for. A. I was few questions on the how much is the doubles A toll on her she I think she played quite grueling match today and lost over two and a half hours whether. Matches. Whoever that would affect her in a gain in in kind of press conference, she kind of said. Nothing new. That's fine. Singles a totally different story. So you know I mean. Because she said, she interesting interesting she said with a doubles match that she felt actually she actually feels more pressure playing doubles because she feels like she's paying for her as well as this out. Yeah. I guess I mean that's interesting. Isn't it? Because I think most players would be completely the opposite they would prefer to have. Either The ability? That kind of A. Lot less less individual pressure, but she won't take has had the sports psychologists that she's been working with for about about two years and I think that all of our she must have done with them is like totally paying off because when she does step on that singles court, she's she's very calm very composed and it's just all coming together for her and. You. Know I think I think it's quite impressive edgy that it's such a young age she's she's made addition to team and and. I think that's a massive case for a lot more plans to to work on that aspect and actually hire someone if they can afford to kind of focus specifically on that I. Think it really does pay dividends. But yes. I I didn't think I. Think physically she has her matches haven't been going on for very long. Thank you. She's been winning so easily. So I think along doubles match today probably will be we'll be fine. and. I know going into the final Kenan, it's hard to say really isn't it? Because the the only question mark go I have is that Sean Tek is a yeah. She hasn't had to prove what she. Like coming from a set down. In. This tournament. Up against the on Kenan is maybe the one player that you necessarily want to come up again, if you'll going to be embroiled in in a three-set tussle because Kennon is so good coming through three-set matches, she's such a fighter. And she's got such great on the court. So I think that'll be really interesting if it does go go long but I feel I feel take. Quite, possibly could avoid it ever getting place to that if she really played her best tennis. Yeah. I mean if she just kind of continues playing us as she does, you know we could just end up with another. Six, two, six, one, scoreline I I couldn't see that happening in in the final as much as. As as much as it. Happened so as So. Far. Just kinda point on on shown tech 'cause nineteen years old. Three to the the final I mean we just kind of look at this in the context of women's tennis and the fact that you never got Bharti. I saw PGA Kenan von Vondra Silva on rescue. All under twenty five years old. It's just great. We see these players I. Think you know I think kind of take. Take these opportunities and really kind of put themselves in the spotlight. Sealed tight will have been a player who probably left pilot like. They would have heard of that or she would relatively unknown, but she's always gonNa kind of retired probably started. If if she goes back with the Taito, which probably do a Sarah, the stadium and. Twenty thousand. Exactly. But Yeah I. Think it's it's I. Think it's again I think he's just kind of great for the game that we've got a new character just adding herself to the poll in terms of. It feels like we've got more developed pot I think of. nexgen players in the women's side than potentially in the men's side at this moment. Do you think that's fair to say, yeah I I. Tell You feel like there is a next gen a in the WPA. Really because like if you're calling like Baltin us all Karen Kenney now then now jet on they really because that's already they're doing it and. Despite them being so young I mean in his early twenty, one I think if is being at an age twenty, three, twenty, four because she just seems way more mature than a twenty one year olds but you know they have to grow up say state and they win on the tour, lipitor. I it. Is. Hard to compare to the to the men's game. I think it's just the men's side of things. So different because of the big three, it's it's just kind of completely change the dynamics and so it's really hard to make comparisons but Yeah I mean I think is just exciting at least is coming through. And they cannot see when they come through. You know they cannot. She go the way and I think that. So as a as a fan, you know just watching it so much more exciting. Especially, if you're a neutral fan, you know. I think it's often much more interesting to follow the in the men's tool I think that's an interesting point hair around A. Between the differences between the the tour in the WPA to another ATP tour has the next Gen Fido's showcase the best of all the up and coming talent on the ATP tour the tour doesn't have something like that. But at the same time we've we've got this cannon. This cannon feeling final. Almost feel like that. If there was like a next Gen, follow the women side, this would all based. This could this would. Be An inuit. So of way we don't have that we have that property. Do you think the WTO sh like should have that property or do you think they don't need it because we're already seeing these players just you know get to Grand Slam fond was already. Yeah I, tell you think there's any need for it because like he said. Why would they have a separate tournament aimed at players under twenty one? When wouldn't that already in a grand final, it doesn't make any sense. They could have won four players aged eighteen and under I think that would be more relevant thing for them today, and then that would be targeted I guess like the Coca Gulfs in the Layla Ernie Fernandez CIA be an event just for them to come back out. But even then is that really I didn't know if that's as much of an argument full that either it's a good question they it's it's an interesting point to raise but I mean these these two played in Judaize Junior wrote garrison. I think four years ago. Kenan Tech. Played. An four years later they're in the final of the of the the real thing I mean that's Quite, interesting and four years like in in the men's game that's probably going to be that would be a lot longer between the chances of them playing ingenieur event and then. GOING DEEPER SLAM together. Oh. Just I just kind of finally on that. So next next gen point whether there should be an WTN action. I just wonder whether like it's almost like too much to ask for these players you know at this level deranged to get to grandson some whether they have their own event more just like a Wisconsin like a marketing thing to showcase them in like a almost a two. You mean yeah said like to introduce. New Faces to tennis. Bonds. Agendas. Yeah. Yeah Yeah I think it's I. Think it's one maybe WTI could could potentially luke. Again last night do you think do you think the WTO toll should have a next gen? So of equivalent because I feel like is a certainly we've all these up and coming. you know youngsters. Youngsters. These these players are kind of around twenty years. Old Will Oh whatever. You know whether that that cools for you know having a next gen equivalent betson. Yeah, let's let's let's move onto the second semifinal because we you've touched on on Canon already but she came through against Patrick Evita six, four, seven, five. SA- Kenny now is in her second Grand Slam Fall in love twenty twenty. She'll see won the Australian Open and really kind of the story half a cannon is a I mean she's she's just a fighters. She's she's got that sort of you know we kind of we kind of talk about ash party one of the. The best kind of Brule is. On a women's tennis court and I think Kenan with this tournament is definitely per self in that category with the three set wins that she's odd coming up against his like fits. In semi final, she has been able to conduct just. Just, kind of go in and just slide not care about any of it. Come out come out the victor. Yeah I mean in a way she was a bit Jovovich like in the sense of she was really good in the semifinal. What's Saving any breakpoints that convinced for hat on her serve, and then taking opportunities on the C-A-B-A say yo she when it came to the crunch points, she was much stronger in the moment and. He. He he he didn't play as well An. With his game she's always gonNA. Make more errors because she's such a such aggressive game. On the big points here came was was much better and that's really what it came down to. She played much smarter. On those big points and I mean. I just feel like Kenan she's never made in vinyl until now but when you look at her record with finals. She's won six titles from eight finals. So she's she's pretty good conversion record when she gets to the deep stages of tournament. Yes. Just wanted to sharing leading the. Australian even Veasley. And I mean the only thing is I I don't know if you know without a final a set down wasn't to Migori set and a breakdown she will see under the okay. She's coming up against former slam james champion. Now, the role is reverse cannons the the existing champion. So I didn't if she would feel the pressure. More. Going into X.. I know that she said. Before that, she does get very very nervous before match and sometimes that doesn't actually show the call but I do think she she does struggle with those nerves and I if she's going to fail. The expectation because she's already. Slam champion is she gonNA fill? Is She going to? Fill that. I've I might say that. They do let it say. Because she I think she's called. Lyle. ICENHOWER veins. She's so cool and calm under Prussia and. She really brings. She does really bring out in the business ended tournaments and at Grand Slam level you you said the you know she's won six titles from. Eight tournaments, she's made the semi finals from sixteen. An one majors this year as well. It just shows you that she really almost forget you know how. You Know Gucci. Kind Wisconsin forget what kind of surface she's pay on when she when she gets to kind of Grand Slam level, she's just able to she just able to raise a game and I think what? The you know the French openness shown that double Bagel show you to get as a rancor. She's a fos learner very she's been very quick to adapt and learn from situations and. You know I mean look at wherein where we are now can in twenty one years old and is in the is in the final. I mean I think as a fan. I definitely have noticed as been some fans who don't maybe appreciate kind of. Cannons game I think there's a lot of feeling that brand of Tennessee not the most kind of. Easy on the eye in the sense that it's. Saul it's not necessarily spectacular and maybe she plays like a little better than her opponent but talking kind of. Kind of in the FI margins in terms of percentages. But really kind of if you put it all together, it will just adds up and. You combine that with her of mental toughness. That's where she really excels and separate sales separates us from the. From the competition and she's GonNa be she's definitely going to be very She's going to be a very tricky opponent. Tech to to face in the final I don't think it's going to be an opponent that she untapped has really face a FOF CANONISE O. On her own story in hiring space and doing her own saying the Sean might have to. Might might have to play player south in and kind of figure out what what can is Nicole. I. Know they play Yes. He said they played at the French Open before in the juniors west and actually one, six, four, seven, five, I don't think that's really going to have a barry on the FIDO, but it will be interesting to see if there already. So of learnings that she'll take from that. You maybe a a maybe apply. On Saturday. Yeah because obviously she don't takes GonNa WanNa play like she did against Hal in terms of the performance since then shown tech she's had to play to qualify qualifies like would it have been any different if she would have had no seeded players or five plays in in the quarter and semi I mean I think she would still probably have come through them but I don't know if. Maybe. It's a bit I know Trevisani and Puerto Rico paid really really great. Tennis overseas get themselves to the stage of the slam but I just feel like has he's had the tougher throughout the two. I know she won't take Howard by Phil you know she's come through for Daniel Colleen's feared the ferry she was playing very very well that could have been a very Tricky opponent I. You know I'm not sure Y- Puerto Rosca Kenan's of. A difference in kind of caliber potent say. Faced with the fact that film tech's in her first lime fighter I mean I know. She's been she seems to be very call mentally but on the day itself, I, don't know if. If might suddenly change I think the fact that's not gonna be a big thousands of fans in the stadium I. think that will probably help I think that does change the sense of occasion. We've discussed that as to why that might be one of the reasons why we more qualifies Ding Ding better at this event but. Yeah I I really Dave how to pick your eight? It's very intriguing I have to say, yes, some people might be like old need of the a big big names but. For me and the women's event you didn't need a big name for Matt should be decent and you know I I feel like this could be it could be a classic day. It's really weird because shield tech is going to go into it as I think the bookies favourite even though she's she's unseeded candidate is going the dog even she's the US Australia Day Pachulia. A high ranked player, but I certainly think that situation suits. I think that situation suits can and I think she draw the. Wouldn't J. because I feel like she put so much pressure on herself. I think she does prefer to just be the choir underdog like she was at the A and she just wants to kind of get the job done. But without t bunch of a spotlight on her. Which I usually I get the sense that. She's she's up five shrunk. Open is a very quiet like that. She has I feel like she doesn't court. The limelight and I would i. would be like to save think. Situation. We get into predictions quickly I mean this this final itself. It's between two very young players. You know I think I, was reading. This is the first slam final between two twenty, one under since two, thousand, eight when sharp over faced on Ivanovich a d. c. this is a flash the PAN final audie genuinely say this is of rivalry the new we would we're going to be saying in Grand Slam finals to come I. Did it about a rivalry? I mean, how many of? If they would object if we're GONNA. Say He is he could get this age that it might be hard. For rivalries to really, build up. Per Se but certainly I think. I think it's really yeah. It's I didn't realize actually that we haven't had to plays that young ineffectual for a long time actually. I guess because Serena's being say dominant but interestingly, they've Kenan does and. Then, the last person oversee to have won t slams into single-season was curb a back in twenty sixteen I think it walls. But the last time someone he was twenty one and under one times in a season boys at Shea Serena Williams back in two, thousand and three. And I think just in Annan. So that's that's quite a while back in those two names. Obviously you WANNA is Asia yourself with with names of Calabria say. I think if can Indus- win and have she to slams from this kind of strange crazy year that is that would be remarkable. Thing would have full sole not the start of the season you know because yes, we knew she was talented in law she she she one fee title was. Becoming quite a consistent feature on the tour but I don't know if necessarily she was the one that people would have picked out she to kind of suddenly claim do you want to slams? Okay came before we wrap up this APP say big question we've done the we've done the man now we're GonNa do the women Fantastic versus canton. How many how many sets? Kenan in three sets. ooh. As much as I've picked up. A bit insult. I I'm I think I'M GONNA Gauche. I'm just going to have to guy with the we've on paper and I'm going to go feel tech to set six, six, three, six, two, something. Something Formula I. Yeah. I just think she'll take his just gonna blow kept it away. But here knows let's let's wait and see I'm sure by finals are going to be absolutely fantastic spectacles. and. Yeah we've got. We've got a face to look forward to a the weekend. Yeah it will be. It'll be very gripping contests I'm sure. Yes we will be spectacle show but. We've also got the women's doubles final. On. Sunday but stay we had today about Bausch and Kiki Mitch come through against Creek and SENAC UVA That was a really close match the end of that and Yeah. They snuck it in the end I. Think it was seven five in the third-set. And then as we said earlier, Egos Toronto lost her double semi with Nicole Medical. They lost out to you Alexa Geraci in disarray crochet. So I'm that was who said of a three-set by show. So yet doubles final is set for the women and tomorrow will be the men's doubles final Matej, Popovich Bruno, Suarez against, you'll save Kravitz and mies crop. witnessed. And just a couple of. Couple of things from the Wheelchair Events Alpha hearing Gordon read one them when won the men's wheelchair title? Against Cassava. Kannada today's they will not know much tie-break say well, today's but some. British success. I think they've actually won all the men's wheelchair doubles this this year say that's amazing achievement and then tomorrow we've go three Brits and Action Alpha is in the men's will singles final against Yokum Gerald and then Andy Lapthorne is in the court will Jessen goes against an Oko I. Then John, Wiley is playing with her partner. You each committee. Again just again, you're faves degree advantage in the we'll just. Say. We will report back on on the outcome of as when we round up with our lost railing Gareth spot on Sunday Brits doing very well in the States. But, so yeah, that's wrapped up for this episode of the posture I enjoy listening to our thoughts on the last couple of days at right on gas. Make sure you subscribe to us on your causing platform. Of Choice to make sure you stay up to date on the rest of the French Open that's an apple podcasts, spotify costs, books stitcher. Wherever you listen to us. 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The Aus. Open Catch-Up: Draws dissected; Thiem lands Djokovic; Nadal fitness concerns; Osaka + Serena in stacked bottom half; Sinner-Shapo lead R1 popcorn; British chances assessed; Finals predictions; Collect-A-Set announced!

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The Aus. Open Catch-Up: Draws dissected; Thiem lands Djokovic; Nadal fitness concerns; Osaka + Serena in stacked bottom half; Sinner-Shapo lead R1 popcorn; British chances assessed; Finals predictions; Collect-A-Set announced!

"Hello ladies absolute. Welcome to the show. Joan kim tennis podcast by fans on today's apron. Draw special nature ready for his title. Defense as rougher nidal faces fitness doubts. Ashbal tease back. Whilst a soccer answering in london stacked bottom and dan evans gets cam nori in the battle of the brits down on the kim the australian open drool is hey. I've got to say. I'm quite relieved that we've got your ought to discuss. Because twenty four hours ago it was pretty perilous position. Play have been suspended. There was no thursday play in the tournament going on in melbourne at the moment. But that seems to be in the past now and it looks like we all can have a first grand slam of the in melbourne. The draw was delayed. But we have got it now and yeah. I'm so relieved that we've as i said we've got subject to discuss. I know i mean just thankful really because own vase players that had to isolate on the thursday. They couldn't go out and play. They get covid tested and they Fortunately came back. Negative say the is ready to commence fingers crossed touch wood and we have to fabulous single strolls t dissect on podcast still waiting on the doubles draws after say bouts. We can get our teeth into the singles drawers and i have to say joe. I was looking through. Especially the women's draw earlier. I was highlighting matches of interest and i basically laid highlighted the whole drawer because it's just absolutely jab impact as as a which will come onto is absolutely stacked particularly in the bottom half it just seems fraught with danger. But we'll we'll come on to that and we'll also be revealing list is going to be very excited. We're gonna be revealing. Our collector set picks as well towards the end of the show. We're going to be giving. All predictions are lost standing as usual. So it really is going to be. Jam packed episode. But we gonna stall with the men's singles draws and looking at the kind of top seeds nestle player pathways so of course. We've got novak djokovic. We've raff on the dial and dominic thiem As the top free sees and then we've got medvedev as well I mean let's start with kind of djokovic and nadal because you know these are kind of two the big free. There's no roger federer here never really kind of. I think quite contrasting fashions. Because you know one. Side you know vat djokovic. She's looked great at the. Atp cup is serbia. haven't made it through to the semi finals. But he's looked good. He had a good test against sasha zverev today against team germany so he looks quite good whereas in a hasn't been caught yet i feel like nadal has been like if you've been great at cheerleading his team but he hasn't stepped on court yet and there is a bit of a question mark reversal. His fitness think he has a a sore back but some i mean looking at that draws they they they look like the first week for both of them really they can sort of feel like they could so of easing selves into into the fest grand slam of the season. Yeah i take envisaged team many problems for either of them just on paper. Looking at the draws i think novak's first round against saudi will perhaps be more difficult than his subsequent overstay low of is drawn to the fact that stan could be his fourth round opponent but i mean we had previously had covert in the off season and is struggling a bit. I think getting back where he wants to be. So that may never happen And if it does it might betas appointment. But yeah just on paper really. I mean i guess roughest. We've got possibly dan evans coming up in the third round but said from british perspective be quite interesting but i think until he gets the calls. Final survey them when you could pay zverev rapid pace. it's pass. I think could be fairly plain sailing famous last words. But i i've got to say that yeah djokovic that fourth round is potential yet. His sort of i sort of tests. He could also face meals around rounded. She actually has looked in good nick. I think a season. I always never is a little bit of an injury so of question. I've him whenever he steps on a tennis court. That could not happen but again kind of talking about stamp africa. I didn't feel that you could write off it australia. Diaper chaptered regardless of how good a ton up so that could certainly be a you know. That definitely could be a very interesting. I mean fit your convictions. Well he could play in the quarterfinals. Now team Serbia have played team germany today in the atp cup team. Jimmy actually one not go through to the semifinals and even they jock. Vich won his singles match against farah if it was a real So really tight contest both by players really Really bringing it went to three sets as did the the doubles as well and various came came out on top so that will be an interesting sort of narrative to see how that plays out with with zverev not solve reuniting after such a dramatic day fatigue serbia. Particularly you can see. It was very highly emotional match jovic smashing his racket on changeover. But yeah it's it will be. It will be an interesting one. And i guess kim. Let's kind of quickly talk about the dow because he is suffering an injury. I mean as a founding concerned or not really. I mean he might be going into the first grand slam of the having not played tennis he might play you know in the atp cup. Maybe get a singles match in. But he's defeated that he might potentially be going in a little bit undercooked. Yeah maybe it'd be good if you can't pay the singles if he could like get onto cough the doubles tomorrow for the semi finals of the atp cup. Because when i heard he had a stiff back i was thinking. Hey okay that doesn't sound like too serious but because he hasn't paid either of the ties is like it might be something a bit more. I mean i hope i hope. He's just being cautious and preventative. But i'm sure he would. Of ideally want some batches under his belt. And i really like anyone going just Without having any kind of real real kind of practice going into. I mean i'd say how actively he's been practicing this week. I mean he did play the exhibition in labor. Yeah i mean it is. Tricky isn't it. I mean laslo. Jaffer round as a referee. Now i'm thinking actually. That could be a dissolve steps referees struggling with an injury but we'll have to wait and see until the steps that cool. He might come out. All guns blazing and it's just you know. He's just being cautious by not no plan the atp cup which you know obviously isn't as important as as the have to say though. Joe if we're looking at the top. Four seeds there paul threes three looking at donal. Medvedev's paul should the kind of drool workout according to rankings. I think he's called the easiest. Paul vo of these top seeds. I mean pospisil cub as by cryan avai- go fat. I don't see any of them. Posing any problems daniel medvedev and then even in the quarter-final i think he i think he was. He's gonna make kind of fairly easy work of over love his compatriot have to say or potentially are ba. But i just. I can't get into the semi's yeah. I think he's already not quite a nice drawer. And also i think that is kind of couples quite nicely with he's paul. Qb one of the most inform players at the moment going into your show. Nathan looked very good it in the cup. I think he's gonna twelve match unbeaten streak following on from season when he won the paris. Moss is in the you know the. Atp finals He's in. He's in the semifinals with ruptured knee. Atp cup and it's not just the the number of matches he's won Without losing the quality of opponent as well because eight of those twelve wins have come against tall ten opposition so he is going to be in really fine. Full going into malibu newfield like this is a surface that really he can compete with the likes of middle Jackovitch and team. you know. he might even feel. he's in a position to do as dominate team. And get to the final you know in in the two thousand and twenty one competition interesting to see that he could play in the quarterfinals That could be so of battle battle. Battle of brits battled for russia but some you know that could also be as you said about. He's too i mean if there is a replay bautisa Four match if in my head that has five sets will ever. I feel at one of the back of the was out for meeting. Beppu devon the quotas better. Yeah i think. I think medvedev will be happy with that. Say the fact that he has the data. I think in the bottom hav in that sort of in that semifinal. We know that they had that fantastic match the. Us open medvedev. Came very very close to beating dallin. He'll obviously have great experience from that. It feels like he's landed in you know in the right hof And with the rights of difficult opponent in the dow and not jovic in the semifinals that It might be it might be primed for him. I think i mean i'll tell you. What a bag and stroke asia. He is the heavy favorite. But do you think they dominic thiem. He's coming in. He loves to bertini in the in the hp shop like perhaps a bit surprising i feel dominate team. Hasn't shown necessarily kind of the best form coming in but it hasn't really been many opportunities to say he's gonna write draw but i do feel the today we are. We giving the edge team so again because of the way that draws panned out or as you think team if he's gonna semi against today by final as a about she beating back in semi than it being the final as he has garrels think teams and interesting one. Because i think he showed law season as well. He's a little bit of a slow starter. When it comes to the start of the season and as the season went on lost year he got better and better. So do you think there is a question that on how well he stopped having said that of course he got to the final of the australian open last year in an push djokovic. All the way Having said that. I mean again he's He's got a source of a little bit more. If join me he could face nick. Carry us in round three but it will security Ombu and then in round four as well he could play one of detro- of chile. Karanja boost own initial corey. Even so i feel like this drew. This part of the jury is quite kind of tight. Quite few sort of plays lurking. He on that day can spring a surprise. You know you've got some real quality as said nishikori grand champion challenge grand slam champion. You've got other players as well like schwartzman elliot c Your accent denis shapovalov. Which will cause we're gonna get into. Who are playing each other in the first round but really i think this is the this possibly. If there is a surprise. I think Is that if there is a surprise. Semi-finalist i think it might come from this part of the draw. K what what do i sense i send poised by the gave referees. Quite badly injured with his back. It would be his quarter. But then i suppose sits pass who is in russia's projected final would one to come through which perhaps isn't as much of a surprise and he could even beat rough anyway. Yeah i suppose so. I just feel like team would still get the better off. Whoever that coach finance would be whether it schwartzman osuna role. Faa shapovalov upn. Like he's going to get to that quarter zyppah fish oil. I'd love to see a rematch of course between team and jackovitch in the semifinals. And i think other question. I think for team now is that you know he won. He won his. You got the monkey off his back with that grand slam victory at the the last year but i think that will oversee still be some doubts in the sense of. Yes but he did that. Without beating novak djokovic and without beating rafal on the dow and in this competition with both of them president he might think that he will need to kind of prove gain to people that he can win a grand. Some with You know these two players in field anyway. Maybe he won't actually feel like he's arrived until he has kind of got one of those sort of career defining Best-of-five-set wins against someone in the big three on route to becoming a champion which we know is a very very difficult and until order and the fact that if he's going to do that this australian he's he's going to have to go through djokovic will potentially go through djokovic and the dow back to back. That would be a real. If that did happen that would be a real statement. But even winning against one of those and then becoming a champion again it would be a real statement that arguably his victory at the. Us open may not of had because he didn't have one of those players involved. Yeah note star sashes vera. But it's not quite the same as it when you go yeah jovic etc. If he does go into win this veteran to you that absolutely full credit because that's probably the toughest thing in tennis Perhaps epa on the men's side of the but just about rafeh if he does win oversee is going for a record breaking twenty twenty one ground some tools at also be the first player to win base Well full grams at least twice. So we'll see offer is going for history at this event. But i feel like because of this issue with his back and mentioned it being novak djokovic churches you know he's eight time champion. He's going to be impossible to be on this. Call a filter again. But i would like to mention that if he wants to do it. That would be amazing. But and i guess we'll say the you know the story we've rafael nadal is that he is now you know with that french open weight and he is at twenty is equal twenty grand slams with roger federer so he is going to be super motivated to overtake. Overtake roger federer. Mp that number one and you know with each of these kind of grand slams the happen. Now when they're kind of level pegging this is gonna be a big opportunity for him and especially the australian open because roger federer is not here so he will probably see this as a big opportunity for him to kind of your take that you take that number one outright number one spot in terms of number of grand slams because yeah they they've got a city on equal the baby. Would i think. I think everyone would have loved kind of a federated. Dow fight over them on the code number nine. Maybe that'll happen in the future. I didn't that would right itself. But i mean it just just just very quickly actually because his own own the dow we didn't we didn't mention it but he potentially has one of the trickiest around fours going because he could face either alex manure who is really great prospects in australian tennis. Generally what well tennis or he could face fabio folk knee neom. We know the dow. Sometimes i'm not saying every time but sometimes if the right foot ni turns up he can call his doused problems like the. Us open a few years ago when should he shocked him in five sets. Let's not go their own. He's beijing on the clay. So yeah aids. Have obagi mountain sometimes for him i think. Adm would poses as much of an issue. I feel like every time. Rough is played him. Well they played in couple coupla shape. But i i feel like adm is still lacking when it gets to slams a five set a date. I feel like he doesn't have the edge needed but he may prove me wrong this tournament. Let's just have a look at the rest of the draw because we've got the braids of all the draws joe we've cab ori don evans guarini team men in the drawer this year. And who do they get in the first round body shop. I mean i just floors and we'll have a brain round too. I suppose if we look at it from that side of things. I know so frustrating to see that why. Why did that happen. Yeah it was it was really doing. I mean it's kind of bitter. Sweet don evans is on a great run of four. Me started really well in his tournament in melbourne. I caught remember which. I can't remember which even semi fido people detroit should straight-sets in the quarter-finals which was great to wake up too so he would expect him he he's going into that matches the the heavy favor Against cam nori is kind of interesting because the matchups. I mean officially the head to head is one nil to evans. A goes all the way back to the app. Toss challenger in twenty-six But they met five times it twenty twenty in the of the brits competition in row hampton a nori came out on top of that kind of three two so that was kind of unofficial the number of times. They've played each other last year. That this surely gonna know each other's game inside out and that might that might play on you know that might play on each of his mind l. Have to think about how i guess they approach that and even though that kind of friends off the cool. What's it gets to of first point that you know a a potential re round three meeting. We've we've raffling the dow's on the concert you know it's gonna be gloves off and it will be interesting to see how that pans out. But you know you would expect don evans would be the kind of as the the big favorite kind of going in unless unless i can think of you know the fact that he's had to pull double g. t. in the hp to fifty this week if he gets to the final you know it's it might just kind of you know maybe too much too quickly. I i don't know yeah. He might be fatigue from his exploits. She shouldn't be busy days. But we know 'cause which within king you know these days we might actually even see more injuries or walkovers or retirements because of quarantine and the fact that these elite level athletes have had to kind of shut down that bodies for for fourteen days. So it's not necessarily a done deal. Yeah a nobody. I would say dan evans but i feel like cam might just egede. I mean it could be a real ding. And i should just say thank you to eight. Gb tennis for that stat about the head to head cavalry was all longest standing at the us. Usafe and i feel like it could be very happens. Happens in grand slams. Last year was not great. It was not befitting really off his is random and yet they will be both certainly licking their lips the prospect potentially facing a darrow say unfit and dowell in in round three. I mean let's just look at some of the other sort of round one matchups. This draw has straight up Be worth staying for getting up early for. I mean is withdrawn to shop of versus sinner. I think it's just your round. I'm really hoping annex in a win. while he's he's in the semifinals of one of the two events. Either graduation rate april. The murray refer even. Yeah he's having a good start to the season because he won the apron at the end of loss. J i think he's on like an eight match winning streak which she may continuing. I was so surprised he actually wasn't seeded. It was yeah. He's been playing that well and chiappa valve as well has also been playing very well. He's he had to defeats to verify and jock. Vich in the hp. He pushed all the way i think. To a third set match tiebreak and again against djokovic. He he him work his victory. He definitely also looks in in very good form. Not is certainly. I think one of the popcorn matches off of round one but certainly there are other others as well medvedev. Pospisil possible could be quite tricky competitive. Expect medvedev come through that but the game possible quite widely experienced player. We we know he's quite can be quite decent singles player on his day. Cisa pass c mon came. You know. I'm a big deal. Seem on of malaysia. Your hair on him. 'cause actually go very escott as a big compliment. I compliment say anderson anderson bertini bertini. Looked fantastic is win against dominic. Thiem really kinda blitzed him to be very much to me. Surprised by one four and two in in that so of match Again against kevin anderson very very very very very strong and durable player sanguine dimensional. That's ascott mile. I sang grin two of the last three years. He's got to the quarters of course. Aa so maybe eighty mali's in the first round which will not be very good for him fans but angered and he's he Has he has a history. At this event. Say i wouldn't be surprised to be one that one but oh say another match cool. My i know the young player calls alcaraz qualify and a good way to ivanhoe fan in the week. As well he's paying botic vanden van design. Show you just wanted to say that may have messed up as you say. Another qualify and oversee new kid on the block. Perhaps but i've just really intrigued. Say how how does in the event how he could possibly be not so good first match for him. Yeah see how to really great victory against David gell fund In the agai in one of the fifty events This week Really statement victory because he was in it was pretty comprehensive in straight sets and i am also interested to see how that plays out particularly because they could he could face one of my favorites hubert. Her hurkacz in round two and the winner of that would could then go into play stephanos. Cisa pass i think there's quite a few tasty matches around that sort of part of the drool one final match as well that caught my eye in round one which is a match the aca few years ago you probably say was a quarterfinal quarterfinal matchup. That was creek demonstra buses merrin chile. Yeah as i said it feels like a match. That was probably box office. Full three four five years ago but now it's sign at the time this isn't it that's around much. Yeah i saw that. That was kind of being heralded as a one to watch. I thought oh well post it now on they lie. I'm really sorry to say. I don't think that would be as exciting as it may be. Sounds i i know that sounds really harsh. But yet there'd in a few years ago when they're kind of at the peak of their powers than fantastic. But i mean that. Could go five sets joe and another one. I think potentially could be a five-set as fabio for against uber. I think that has the potential scale You sold already just by saying that you've already sold it on. Sold it to me. I just want nothing. Salvatori say he's paying own. Well henry lax and i was gonna say own ray. But that's like on re constant anyway henry lax who qualify but malaysia is knocked. There say i'm afraid you call have to share on. But joe let's before we take a break and go into the women's draw. Let's make some predictions for the men's event. Who if you go in your final four heavy on your final is your winner. Yes so my final four in the top path I am despite nay saying a little bit dominic thiem i think is going to have a little bit too much and even though he has been little bit. I think of a slow starter. I think you'll kind of come come good and i'm going to finivest. You're rich dominic team in the top path going with the seeding Bottom off though is not quite so with the seeding. I've go daniel medvedev against steffano cisa pass in the semifinal. Now you're probably shaking at me. Now dowell on sensing cisa pass nidal quarter-final assists past coming through it. I just think if they're all any sort of fitness doubts over the dow if he gets that fall and he and he gets to a matchup with cisa pass. I think six passes get enough now to kind of i. Well i think it's explore that and if he's not one hundred percent cisa pass is going to come through. That say i'm going to go. As final four four jakovich team cisa pass medvedev with my final being jovic versus medvedev. Medvedev is in grateful minimum. And and i think he's just going just going to carry on doing what he's doing. And i've got novak djokovic as much championed. i think. He's the favorite. I think he will win. He has looked good in the cup. That has not been as no reason for me to think he's not going to. He's not going to be champion especially came because there's going to be hawkeye electric electronic line calling reports that there's got to be no. There's no like people on the call for any sort of controversies happened. So i'm going to go novak djokovic. That's still be an empire. he could. Yeah i think summed up really well when he said that. There's no reason not to think that joke. Richard way in ohio. I agree with you very much. I've actually got an exactly the same g. An except i have put raffarin there in my semifinal of k. With my boy. I have a bit but yeah i'm just gonna gave rafa. I think medvedev will get the. And i think yeah joke which method that final jovovich to win. Could be five sets. I think he'll come through they. So that we have a We'll be making some more predictions later as well but let's just take a quick break. Abbott do join us in the second half where it will be looking at the women's draws announcing art collector set for this year's or the apron. Say see you in a moment. Ask for mcdonald's. Cebu and davis elen advertising. This is aroma. Two dollar six piece mcnugget thirty second radio. Id number mc l. Q eight four seven. Three two zero r. Hey we haven't even pulled away from the drive through and you're already digging in the mcdonald's bag off bay just a few hours right. I guess i can't blame you. Pass me some to smells too good to get it all the way home meal. There's a meal for every moment at mcdonald's and now your favorite spicy chicken mcnuggets. Back get his six piece spicy or classic for just two bucks. Only at mcdonald's price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer or combo meal. This is the pulsing show. You joined by joel and kim and now we're going to move on to the australian open women's singles draw which i have to say as per usual. It's a lot more open. We've got severe can ask defending champion and world number-one ashbal teapot. We've got french open. Champion sheffield tech. He's probably a of an unknown quantity on an holco dating. They way to start. Joe i think-i i projected draws are lot less for liable for the women's side. If the draw say we can look things on paper. He would be playing. Hey but i feel like in reality. That's just not going to happen. Yeah i mean a lot of people are looking at the draw as a whole and looking at baltimore and feeling is very bottom heavy. I think i saw those saying that was. It's kind of like forty forty grand slam. Forty grand slams in baltimore is eight grandsons in that taught pops. It feels like one of the big are in that baltimore and is gonna make for it could be. It could be an absolute above. We could get some absolutely fantastic matchups very early on particularly in that baltimore. I would not be surprised if not parth. We might get more of all kind of Potentially surprise packages. first time. Semifinalist fest on finalists may be so. We'll we'll say let's let's talk about the. I think we should stop. Came with the bottom half because it is so loaded because it is so juicy. We'll come onto the path second. Yeah i mean where do you start with this this off i mean let me let me just you some names in the in the bottom off. We've got bianca on. We've got copy. New moog reuther. Patrick evita ver- may amir soccer. Sabah lenka serena williams ecosphere on tech. Simona hallett i mean. Wow it's just it's just where do you. How do you go about picking someone from from that half. it's just it's just so loaded. Yeah and anyone on meghan day can create an upset. You know oprah in the forms of life as we know that they can do. I'm thinking angelique kerber could potentially pull run out of the bag. But then i do say that law and should never dolls or at least not for years but yeah i mean maybe assault. Let's start with the sauk of because You know she is the third seat but you know she's doing really well in the gipson o'hara valet which what is she paying nightmares i. She's doing really well at the moment but she sitting really well and she's looking in fact decent former detroit capable but yeah. I think she possibly has the hardest tour. I think she's actually quite operations that she's quite excited about it so dating thinks she's getting it. Phaser which i think is a good attitude to have. I mean her first round alone. Anaesthesia pathogenic for. You know that that could be up upscale. I would not be surprised. A b but i will say who's going to win the whole tournament say i ever conflict of myself on that one but i mean if she gets that ramczyk possibly caroline garcia. I mean i would love to see garcia putting offer obey kwaidan about thing that's going to happen but round three possibly ownership round full possibly theresa. Who is really really really strong. You fall as well. She's she's not losing many games and she kenan in a repeat of of loss jay's a final and then if asaka gets through values as she could have computer code final may possibly andre escape and then abc's semifinal she against either serena hallett speech film. Take or possibly sap linka you know if either as if that wasn't enough if they lost it wouldn't be joe bloggs down the radio. I mean it's just it's just ridiculous it's just a bit I mean it's just is a testament to adapt in in the wgn. The we've got all of these these characters and these these players already kind of you know they all have potential in. It feels again. We've said this before but it feels very much more open than the know in the in the menstrual. Yeah i mean. I i mean i saw because as you said. She's excited for the challenge. I hope she is she. Interestingly said she said. I think she said something along the lines of on. I've never seen a projected draw. Come true and i think i for case. I hope she doesn't. I hope it doesn't cub tree because it's just so hot paper. But i mean i would love to see some big hitting some matchups against people. Like muga reuther. Kavita serena williams. Of course it would be very very very fascinating to watch and yeah as you said. She's been in. She has been in grateful. And if there was probably any one player who can handle this and kind of go through and just take it one match at a time. It is near sauk. I think she's very well. I think she's matured quite well. And she's learning how to handle the expectation. I think we spoke about when she first turned well number one. I think she wasn't. She wasn't ready. She wasn't she was so kind of in a learning experience of how to handle that pressure. But i think off the kind of winning After to winning the us apron think she's able to handle more handle the limelight handle the pressure and at the so you're regardless of how difficult to draw some paper i think this you potentially could could get all the way to the final. Yeah i mean. It's a hard court slam so i think she's got to be right up there actually. At the time of recording she is on a fourteen match win. Streak is the gibson tree that she is playing open. But i mean from that side of the. We've also got serena williams who looks quite decent form in the yarrow valley classic wins. I've approached daniel collins but withdrew from semi semifinal against ashcroft because of a shoulder injury so question marks about her fitness yet again overseas. She had kelly's injury which forced her out of the french open. And it just seems like you know. She's getting these nichols all the time. Now and i know it's probably just precaution that she's withdrawn from from the valley. But i do it. Does put question marks I think earlier in the week you know she spoke about the if you'll straight in a was held a it's no more time. She sounded like she won't be wasn't gonna make it and she only reason she was able to make it was. It had been delayed to february. But yeah it was kind of a not one to see kind of pull out of of that match against party. I know you said it was. It probably was precautionary because on on the core in a match. I mean it has serving speed wasn't down. I didn't think she brought the trainer on even even the the pice match press conference. You seem pretty upbeat. So i didn't really know kind of what was happening so i'm not really to be honest. I'm not reading a lot into that. I'm reading more into serena williams in this ongoing quest twenty four grabs slab title. And she i think she does really. I think she does really good. We've set that before and yeah. I'm not sure if we spoke about this and what's out came. You thought that she could come. Unstuck against moore seek midden and i actually asked you had been drinking. And then he said yes. Gin and tonic. Well what do i said. I think that was prejean and tonic but still lower as ignorant a finalist Threatened shaper into the twilight of her career but younger than serena's do he was. Also i guess in her twilight offer career. But i i just feel like with serena. I wouldn't put it pasta to lease in the first round. Someone might see ogle the way and win win the damn thing. So just i'm very again. I'm very convicted But i d like serena scott had twenty fourth. We've said this before. She's going to need extremely while she was. I gonna need the to apron up for her. And i just feel like if they stroll of hallett anna saw kevin schilling linka. How many of those are going to fool to allow serena to kind of come through with even allowing for some of serena's possible booze. Hedge doesn't decent. after zeke. -ment hedgerow does look decent until the fourth round. And i tell you think she'll get up lenka but yeah i mean i think just a semi against us all. I would have to go with us author. That's where i call. I call look beyond that. But i mean we've also got help. You just took about her. She seemed to be paying off right in the gibson trophy and then she came up against number. Twenty nine in the world a katharina alexandra who thrashed her two and one. So i date what to expect from from hallett now because i will expect that of sheffield and check the french shape. Yeah i know i. I didn't catch the match. I don't know if she was hampered by injury or whatever it was very it was very surprising. It was as he said she on tech. Ask school line. Say it feels like even her as as the second seed who knows he knows about i could. It's just so it could just not anywhere. We haven't even really talked copied maruta who was in the australian open final loss season. We don't really touch her. She could have a good run from greece ever as well. She's been in pretty good form as well. I mean just. Generally that bottom half is is quite an israelite is really really exciting. A let's let's look at that kind of talk path and let's start with with ash balti- because she is the she is the top seed she is the world number one and you know her draw and i think she i think she quite like it to be honest. It's it's quite It's it's not as fraught with danger. I think some of the other seeded players have particularly in in the boston. Draw story in the bottom half potentially kante in round four. I mean alexandra. Actually in round three. I guess would be the the first sort of i sort of challenge potentially. Yeah and i had daniel collins On the agenda for washburn tease section of civil court finest if collins can kind of get through pick in the second round which she did. This week should beat prescriber. Fairly decent against the raiders. While to settle for i mean yeah i feel like she got to the semi say two years ago she. She's a ways up for isn't she. I don't think she would beat ash policy. I yeah i i feel like ash is is pretty good for the final. I think she. She say relaxed isn't she. I just i love to mean You think she's august pressure on her. She's got stuff to pre. But i think if she's nick and she's quite relaxed. I think she's got decent draw. I think she's on for the final. I mean that's kind of crazy saying this because she the battle tennessee's played all sorry the time she's been out for david feel like she should be able to just kind of walk back on a cor- play. One light lead up tournament a day of exhibition tennis and then kind of go into a final for has really kind of looked that goods and yet She would not be surprised particularly as you know. It's not as dangerous. I think Or is troublesome in in that top off score time. I think to play herself in the fact that say was i going to be fans out. I think that might help. Help feed awful so you know potentially make her a bit more intimidating opponents so again. I think she'll be quite quite Quite a formidable challenge. Let's let's cut came. Let's get back actually very quickly to the bomb half because we didn't actually talk about someone. I wanted to talk about bianca on rescue she. Td she's she's in australia. She's not played any tennis. She was going to pay some tennis. She she withdrew. I was happy side. And then i was wondering. Is she going to drop off your shirt and again. I really wanted to have her on our collective set predictions. But you said no because it was just going to be. It was just too much risk if she was actually going to turn up but it sounds like it does genuinely sound like. We're actually going to see her own. Tennis school. sounds very hellish. Forbid joe yeah i just. I don't think we can expect much. I think in an interview this week. She said the when she got back onto that core and play like her. I practice set. She was like really ready. Saw the day after yeah fries. It's been so long. Since she's played like competitively the i just feel how she going to withstand possibly seven matches with a body. That's only just kind of coming back into full tennis again. So i just. I just called say enough yet and i think if you look at how second round she could be paying per onkar. Oh see say. He thinks she might come. Unstuck against offer of those baxter's would be say that. Yeah if my my feeling is that if she's talking to play now when is she gonna play because she's literally gone for two weeks of quarantine for all these hurdles to play some tennis. She's there she might as well. Just just see how it is because As you say she got nothing to lose we know she's a great talent but we're not. I didn't think any of us are kind of expecting to kind of do feel in tech and get get to the final or whatever. We just want to see it back on a tennis school and you know i think. I think that's really kind of the story. Here is that i just. I just want to see it back on the court because that's where she belongs. She starts tremendous kind of fighter. I wanna see. I wanna see how the game only to see how a game is. And whether it's changed over you know the eighteen months. Say she's been pretending school. Yeah i mean she could also be saying this. We don't expect too much. Be true psychology and i would love to see her playing fantastic again you know. I think it would be such a shame. If she couldn't get ever get back up to that level we saw in nineteen. So i'm brady hyping. She she does arrive. I've just being ready to stay. Not going to expect too much from her. I mean joe. We also have to y- so she's in the boston section thing. If she did get fairly goal. I think she'd be looking at fourth-round with video often receiver possible horta with a soccer. That'd be fun but let's let's talk about the defending champion quickly. Because he thought the kenan. Who's in that top off would meet balti- in the semi's i feel like in. I don't see her defending her title for reasons. She looks particularly great. Coming into which we call it. Necessary takers gospel. Because she's don't going slams before. But i just feel like she's going to have the pressure on her in a beating the defending champion that kind of expectation. I just i feel like the old surrogate and the way she's been leasing what she lost fairly comfortably. Too meager isa osage sakari from a setup. I think if they radi tight scrappy matches fine but she was just compete deal. Which doesn't really bode. Well i know say she could. You know looking at the she could play clark happy in the second round. Who loves a big loves. A big upset with that Breaking the streak earlier this week. bam even if she gets through that is so quite dangerous. I mean jennifer brady said would be quite a difficult opponent potentially in round full. But you know you can. It's been in this situation. I feel we always write off. Yeah an unfairly. So even as even as the champion is she the most under appreciated car grad stopshop. I feel like we. I give her enough praise. But hey maybe. I think she cut fries in these positions. I think she loves being undidahk states and some people might say yes. She doesn't have the most attractive game on tennis school. But it's very very effective. We saw the at the french open as well and It has nothing to say that she could kind of go on another runners again because she knows she knows what it takes. She's you know. I think she. She got two grand slam finals. One one of them lost season. She knows how to get there. She knows what it takes. You know that experience might that might help her against some of the her opponents who might not been in that position before. Yeah no you all right. I'm i'm just this to really poorly before the slam. Say she doesn't have that pressure. And then we do think of harrison on joe because she shouldn't be an underdog four eight hundred sam champion. She's also go to dot in a corner can put off ever opponents all the way through to the final so yeah not so x factor as resolve. I mean joe. I feel like we've been talking quite a law of other women's draw ready but we we have to say mention. Very supple inca. He was on a very good streak into ended this week. But you may be actually having an early an early exit advocate trophy. As she's able to prepare better for the we've go a yoshi villain tech could potentially play help in the fourth round again aslan and obviously is a slam champion himself. We've got jennifer brady. He made the semi in the us. Who's in really good form this week at grandparent's event we've azarenka two-time former champion usa list. I mean where do you even start. She's in kenan school trashy. But i think she's really tricky. First round against jessica peculiar wouldn't be surprised if fica leases that. I don't want her to. But i think that's quite much and then we've got the likes of sakari ripe akina. I mean there's just so many ways that spider in the works all kind of come three to like their first semi or something like that of islam as well on a purchase points of severe Of course quite few brits actually in the women's Let's just kind of took look at some of the matches because it's quite interesting. Mix actually Katie boulter versus cast kina from russia counter versus. You van heather. Watts investors christina prescott up and then we've got francesca jones against shelby. Rogers what do you. What do you make of that list. I mean this is quite interesting. I feel like there's a few opportunities are your first thoughts. I think they've got opportunities to win. Except the fran. Jane's one shall be just as paid really well this week. And see that kind of breakthrough at the usa panel share so attained expect. Jane's to we'll see come through that one. But i think certain johns i mean i thought could be one of those h. Had the watson threes matches that we've come to too great allow katie. Boater did very well against amy soccer in the week so because of that you know i feel like she could she could do you call it against qena league. Isn't the player that she used to be. And then yeah that's a. That's a doable. Troll for j. I was quite pleased that she hadn't got some sort of horrendous in a shea of shop or something. But yeah. I think i mean. Joe's draw is decent through that she another set of qualifies for the second round but third round she'd be looking at jennifer brady and i think neff joe's johannesburg Ready oil informed. No for that. We know jerry likes to build a to boever streak up going in so i'm not sure how far she's going to guy. Yeah that will be an interesting one. controversies brady and potentially cannon In the next next round But yeah i've gotta say really. I watched a bit of katie booster versus salk. She fantastic I was really really really impressive. And i definitely would give her the edge against sakina if she can kind of. Put it together as you said. Cass akina yes. She i think she will while top tableau darrow thereabouts a few years ago. But she's really kind of dropped off in sort of languishing around. So seventy eight hundred twelve at the maintenance. I think katie border will kind of see that as an opportunity As as we'll have watson fron jones. I think this is obviously have fest grand slam grand slam main. Draw debut coming through qualifying. She'll just wanna be taking. In that experience it's going to be a very hard game against shabby roaches. Who say has been very very good on the court. Recently baton yeah. I'm interested to see how they will go. Kim before we predictions let's kind of talk about the brits. Because we this point let's do all who is. You were kind of lost brit standing. We've kind of assessed the women. We've assessed the men as well. Norian an yvo who you who. You backing is the last brit standing. Well jay of the women. I think brown three. She's gonna least brady. And then i suppose I think overall. So you think evans onery will also get to the third round. But i just sitting there with so to third rounds but i think that would be quite successful tournament for british players. I agree with you. I would be impressed if we see a brit in the second week. I'm actually going a similar. I'm going content gang outright. And i think she will beat jennifer brady. I think she will lose. I've for some reason. I think he's going to lose to cannon in the next time i just feel like kenan is just going to do something. She's going to bring it all together and Yeah i i sense. Clinton will do well. I think that she'll come kind of come. Unstuck against against kenan. Can i just throw in another prediction tool related. Okay keiko golf versus joe teichmann sequels. Joe teichmann is going to win that one. I swear they always keep playing each no wrong but i just have. They paid each other earlier this week. And i think jill type came through that in a very coke off came through that in a very tight very very tight final set but yeah i agree. That is a very definitely out of any more fifty fifty than the not not okay. So let's get onto our predictions for the women who've gone find final four joe if you find here if you've got to win final four. I have gone. Ashkenazy versus victoria azarenka. Which seems quite road because as rinku was one of those plays in the hard lockdown think played one match think she's scheduled on this evening But i'm i'm backing her. I think she's one of those guys. You can just put scalpels when she needs to decide okay ash baltia and as a rancor at end in the bottom half. I'm going shopping. Yet mugara versus serena williams So i think by great full this week. I'm not buying into the serena williams like injury injury At the moment. I think it's more of a precautionary thing. So is my final for. I'm going for an azarenka. Mugabe ruth final which seems quite out there but that to update my favorites on on day they are very formidable. Hitters from the back of the core and adopt. Well i just love see much. Think we've really seen that much up before or that many times. So are incongruent final with with azarenka as women's australian open now i would love to say as ranko win it because it's been eight years since she wanted last. I think that'd be really remarkable. If she came back to take this is again. I have gone quite different to you. Actually have gone fastball. Going for jennifer brady in the semifinal. For soccer and serena and the other hall and then i've gone for fino with bharti and soccer with us author to win. A soccer was my prediction when we did a season preview if weeks i think i'd put sure put novak and a soccer to win. Then i'm sticking with these predictions save. Yeah that's my that's my. That's my lot. Probably i mean my predictions are have say for these pre ao vents which will next export. My predictions have been absolutely shocking. So i would ignore. I've said but yeah there right. That's that's all kind of look at the men's and women's drools for the australian open would now going to move onto collect to set a passing shot tradition when it comes to grand slam tennis and full on new listeners. Collect to set is all kind of challenge for our listeners for selves. Actually where we will give you six players and what we would like you to do is tell us how far they get in the australian open by looking at that draws and what you wanna do is you write them right the down right the players down way you think they'll get to and then tells us i i've tweeting us or emailing us However you want to tell us let us know before the fast first ball is in play on monday. Yes so we have well for the first time ever for for collect that we've got some player picks from our listeners who supported us our crowdfunding campaign as either pulsing short champs will passing short gates. So we've got three picks listeners. Three picks having chosen by ourselves for any listener. Who did support us at that level and you are still waiting for your pick. You'll be on all right garage a collect. We'll be in contact regarding that. Say you haven't been forgotten about. I'm so yeah for the women. Joe we've got c. Three three women. So and we had emily star sina one of our lovely supporters and had pick owns zebu say on is the first player on our collective set for the ira. We also had mike. Here's also one of our support is an all crowd fonda and his was eager shrilled tech. So i think that's some interesting names in there yet. And she won't and for the third female player that's one of our picks and we've chosen ashkenazi. So we've gone from ozzie ozzie. Flavor so for the women. We've got ziebel eager. Veontech an ashkenazi that we'd like you to let us know how far they will go in the competition say vicks it is an interesting mix. Some excellent picks from our listeners. On and eager fiancee. I mean again either. We just started out with klay will catch on how cool we're gonna find out on your board as well on a day is is a very combative player. I think in is definitely got the tools to kind of trouble the best on the tour. Say yeah i'm interested to see what people put for those three moving onto the men. We've also got a three picks for years we've got to passing shot pits and we've also got an anonymous pick from one of our listeners whilst i'm going to start with the anonymous pick and that is alex demule say one of our listeners. Yeah alex and then our our to passing shot picks are dominic thiem nine and unique sinner. Say are three. Men are alex manure dominic thiem and yannick sinner. Yeah we will on twitter so just looking. Twitter page an instagram and facebook as well and last night tweet us or else face because e mail loss pas jimoh dot com last night you your predictions we normally of just ask you to pick kind of round one round around three run full court. Finals semifinals final or win. Which will be the case again but just to clarify if you think that is going to get to the final. We won't eat. Tell us whether you think they're going to win. Or whether you think they're going to be the runner up so you call it just put final specify ruffle win that'd be fantastic and we will announce all predictions for collectors set on our catch up. Show this coming sunday. Please tweet us or email us to put your picks into the hats and we have a special prize for the winner. One of our. I don't know if they're famous joe but we'll have a miscarriage. Worldwide failed famous. passing shots. Mucks fee to enjoy your hot beverage in and you may get some cheeky. Teabags sent with that as well. If you d win so and you'll be added to the hall of fame on our website while say what more could she possibly want if you want to seek in of from the winners of previous kind of collect additions. Just go onto the website. Www the passing shot. Thought code you can you can see. The collector sat hall of fame to see how many cd ticket right. It would be it with a charge to win. As kim said we will be announcing our Our picks on a sunday catch up show from all the tournaments this week. I'm really interested to see what people think about yanic sin do they think he's going to get paul chiappa valve in round one or how far people are gonna think he's gonna guy. I think i'm going to pick i think okay. I think i'm a fan. I have to say yeah. I'd i'd light. Sim gay our less new listeners. Let us know your thoughts about the drawers while because if you've been listening to us discuss it for the last hour. I'm sure you've got the opinions of your in that you'd like to share with us so we'd love to hear them as well and make sure to subscribe to the passing shot. If you want to stay up to date on all the tennis from the australian open with on apple podcasts. Spotify overcast box stitcher. Where have you listened to your podcast. 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"Hi this is billie jean king. This is marion. Bartoli a mats wilander. This is mary carillo. I'm stan wawrinka enlighten. I'm marie this is yannick noah. This is adam can't alongside our miniature dachshund lou or from folsom california and you're listening to the tennis podcast. Well hello and thank you to adam. Kint and lovely little dachshund lou for your intro to the show their greetings to you over in california The good news folks is that it is no longer january. Twenty twenty one. The bad news is that it is february and not is a disappointing fact of the gregorian calendar but so we that completed dry january. You have my utmost respect and admiration and bafflement isolate you. I was i never lied to myself. David i did. I did not even attempt. I'm all about self care at the moment. My best friend though and she loves the wine so many many congratulations. I honestly k. Well okay well done. Thank you know listening but still. She listens actually despite not really being a tennis fan love. Just listen to matinee. Matt how dry or otherwise was your january. Actually pretty dry in all senses. He's nothing if not consistent anyway. It's wet february and actually february satisfying this month. Isn't it because it's it's four perfect weeks. It's full mondays sundays. Yes fits by neatly on the little phone calendar. That is very true. The australian open on offer ends birthday. Yes yeah great month heads because tennis has returned and boy has it. All to there was there was sixty matches that took place overnight. Uk time so an aum during the day on monday in australia. And i thought well that's too much to get my head around. I'll just. I'll just sort of fill to some out for a couple of days until things calm down and there are slightly fewer matches on the schedule but then my informed me that there are how many taking place overnight tonight eighty two due to the addition of the atp cup to the schedule is going to be the national not even all the tournaments underway yet. Is the heart corentin cup. Which is actually the grampian open grumpy and trophy. We'll with hard-currency which is wta vent. That doesn't start until wednesday. No offense grandparents which sounds like a lovely place but and apparently the names of all of these tournaments are there named in honor of places that were badly hit by. The bush is of last year. Which is lovely gesture supported. I just square into get my head around it We really are trying I i think i've nailed the names themselves the valley. We've got the great ocean road. We've got gibson very much. On top of gibson's nothing. Gippsland feature holiday destination for castro. Medica what i am not remotely on top of is who is playing in which tournament especially as it's all on the same order of play because of course there are the same the hadn't quite processed that would be the case pretournament because they're all being played at the same venues so yes it's in this movement to the order of play which which tournament they belong to. But my goodness may it's it's a lot to process yes. Just get an order of play for mobile park rather than for the actual tour and that order of play within it contains five or six different tournaments. It's quite the organizational feet if they can pull this off but it isn't half confusing and i watched the whole match this morning. I honestly couldn't tell you what tournament it was. But i did enjoy the actual tennis that sort of my approach to it. I'm just. I'm accepting the fact that i can get to grips with all of the details of it and just enjoying just picking a match watching it and enjoying it for what it is. And maybe it's not that relevant at this stage. I mean obviously wants his co. quarters semi's final it will become relevant tournament there in in who they end up playing but at the moment when it's just kind of on the lookout for what's the level of tennis like do these players looked like the play is that we've that we know them to be maybe bought draw. There in is kind of neither here nor there would you think david i think the draw most interested in is the one that takes place in a couple of days time in the hard currency cup. Whatever it is where the every player has been in fourteen days of quarantine without any access to prentice courts or anything else partly. Because i'm curious to see whether they look troubles physically by that or not and partly because it's just a really good droits a small think and it's just full of big names being conned rescue angelique kerber lots and lots of players that i'm really interested to see over the course of that week but there are six tournaments going on at the same time in the same venue this week. One of which is the cup which song and dance was made about a year ago and yet it fails. I'm glad skying on because it's another another source of entertainment and an opportunity for these plaza and for us to watch but it's it's so strange is a failing to cram stuff into into a single week into a single venue but this is one of the best indicators of it being a new world of the lot i would say the fact that we just all accepted. There's no there's an alternative. This is all they can do and this is what we what. I was campaigning. For a month or so ago just make it work somehow and actually think the way that rustled up this hard quarantine cup for these players was a real stroke of genuity. I love that they did that. And it's a it's a mass looking at this order. Play in this life. And i don't know what's going on after time. I feel that you have got to choose match. You've got to choose something you're interested in watching but it is also lovely to see this. Many players suddenly playing tennis again. And there's only a couple of few absences and there's some players that we haven't seen in such a long time and it's great. I mean can't wait to see beyond rescue plague. It's it's about fifteen months isn't it Yeah absolutely and we will come on to talk about her just a few bits of housekeeping for you. I because we do. We have a mascot for the week and it is lucky. Chester chester the rescue cat. Because he's going to get three pods for his mascot money because that's how many parts were recording this week. Physicals will have an australian open preview and we will also have an australian open draw show on thursday and my brother is actually put an alarm and his fame straight nathan and door because he is that excited about the possibility of jovic and curious being drawn to face one. Another remote is it might be. We're not very good odds. But those quite long god's accept them being in the same sort of section of the draw. Say you don't wanna be banking on curious having to make the fourth round or courses but if they could be drawn to face another in the first three rounds what you say. He's dependent i would. I would accept that. You weren't encouraged by his pre tournaments press conference in which he said haven't really thought about tennis at all and missed it and signing is just hit some serbs that's just classic is an. He's just pretending that he doesn't care. I mean don't get me wrong. I suspect he has played a loss of call of duty in the past year. And if the call of duty open he would probably be the champion. What was the. What was the game. He was playing on the rod. Laver arena no on most for a fortnight. Maybe if it was the fortnight open he would win. God i sound old move on anyway to chester lovely rescue cat. Both my childhood cats were rescues and one was quite dysfunctional. but it's In fact they were both quite dysfunctional in very different ways but immensely lovable ensures the looks awfully chest and had teddy bear. When i was a kid colchester. He was my favorite teddy. So hello to chester. Hello to rogue muscle and to zeus. And i know you usually do this at the end but at the beginning because we all sort of the beginning. We're about ten minutes in aren't we. But we keep neglecting to mention. Because i can't quite believe that. It's real entry billie jean king is also the mascot for billie jean canine. And those aren't words. I thought i'd be saying ever at any point in my life. But yeah i'm going to say every possible opportunity so tennis into the nitty gritty. I should say by the way that we all have tennyson as recording which some of my favorite pods when we're able to sort of casually have tennis on in the background and i have missed that We've got the The sort of early twenty tens throwback match if marin chile which is jeremy shoddy shoddy serving for. Its scripting trying to be too distracted folks. Verge chilies looks a bit stressed out. But he does yes. He looks like he's become a father in the post. Recognize not look so that is on before is that match is oh god. I'm taking a punter. That much is from the murray river open. I admire your determination to somebody. I haven't the foggiest notion road open. Because i know that that is all i know i would probably got the gender wrong so You know well done yeah. It's definitely one of those one of these two thirty. Yeah this much is taking place on the fifteen seventy three arena which of all the arenas to change their name. I would have nominated that one because they understand it. I don't understand it. Being called the fifteen seventy three arena but no it is in fact the melbourne arena. Which is which is had lots of names in the past. It's been it's been high sense. It's been vodafone than it became melbourne and it is now the john kane arena which is named in honor of a former premier of victoria that died in december of two thousand and nineteen. He was victoria up until nineteen one thousand nine hundred ninety two to one thousand nine hundred and so we really really going to try a to to not cool. I'm still calling it. The high sense arena so book. I really am going to try with that one. The road labor labor. God can't even get that one right. The rod laver arena is owned. Mike is the puppies chewing my fingers to the bone over their religion sponsored by the accent embarrassment She's found mr squirrel. That is a constant sort of source of entertainment Said the rod laver arena is currently out of action. It will be brought into use from the start of the atp cup so that is tonight uk. Time so the main court until now has been the the second-biggest court at mobile park the margaret cho. Torino's the i'm sure you're aware of the the constant debates there has been over the past few years for the naming of that arena because margaret court's is consistently publicly making comments. The that many people in my mind all right thinking people and certainly we find intolerable and she she. She uses the platform that she has in order to to make those comments spread. What she believes is is the right message. We understand the position that tennis australia. In with regard to the naming of that arena. It's a very delicate tight. Ripe for them to walk a mayor very clear that the name if not arena honest her achievements as a tennis player and has nothing to do with any of us that she might have expressed and some people might might endorse that and think that you can separate the the achievements in those with the naming and not have anything to do with whatever these they might have but over the course of the past few months suppose year really And geeta tennessee lived in large part. We've sort of been on a bit of a journey. Haven't we been coming to understand the significance of the names. Things you know. Im- particular with the arthur ashe stadium. Arthur ashe podcast. We did ahead of the usa been but also the significance of the unveiling of alpha gibson statue and who had a great shame. It is that there isn't more named after lt gibson and the fact that it's no coincidence the faulty few people are aware of her. She achieved particularly relative to say author. She does have this significant huge stadium named after him so we have decided that just amongst ourselves on this podcast. We are going to call the second stadium at melbourne park. The yvonne gilligan arena. Absolutely and i think it's That it became heightened to me when we cover it. Evan goolagong enact tennis relive cello of last week and and it was just such a pleasure to find out more about To watch her to understand what she meant to be pulled the positive messages that she has sense around the world and and the good. She has done for the indigenous community in australia. And i felt ashamed that i knew. So little about her what she achieved. And i think the response that we've had tells us that many people sent in the uk and around the welton. There are many many fans of hers as well. Who did know about but i feel like a lot of people had some blanks filled in last week. That listened to that show and close last week. I was thinking back to that. Protests last year by martina navratilova and john mcenroe which which was very well. Meaning in sort of hijacking that's arena and holding after a self made sign that said if on goolagong arena beautiful sign actually but using the australian open facilities to do so and and they subsequently apologized for doing that because they signed up not to To do that sort of things with that with that accreditation and so forth. So you know we we want to do this In a very respectful man out Understanding tennis australia's position. But yeah just in our own way making clear how we feel about it and therefore we're going to name it ourselves refer to it as the evonne goolagong because we feel that. That's what it should be called and is not to disrespect margaret court's achievements on the tennis court. It's just to say that we believe that there is a lot more significance to the naming of of something than just just honoring pure tennis achievements. A need only to look to the authorized stadium for for evidence of that Said that's what we're gonna do. I say that's what we're gonna do. Obviously i will forget. Because i can't i can't even not call it the high sense arena. So that's what we're going to try to a good intentions about catherine. Yeah yeah So what have we seen so far in terms of tennis well if it is lost before i'd even registered tennis was happening again i honestly hadn't realized it started. I hadn't quite got straight in my mind what time it was all kicking off and the time difference with the u. k. And therefore what. Marcia tune in and by the time i change in my bless was already out of the tournament paul to the year. Do you know if memory serves could be slightly out here. I think she was the first player to lose at the australian open last year. She was I remember watching that screen eagerly. It was she was in a race with someone else and says she will not let you remember this stuff. Because i'm toll minted by it. I'm tagged in twitter posts every time she loses things. Yeah oh it's very funny. I've i've sort of got myself with a bit of a predicament hair. Because i absolutely the want to be taking some credit if she ever does do anything of note at all and yet i'm also quite eager to distance myself and admit that i made a mistake but i realized that would be having both ways so i'm kind of stuck what to do about because mova we didn't need to think about it for the rest of the week. She's old nishi. Must be wondering why sheep bothered with the trip. Anyway hopes are high for the australian open. She she doesn't need new. They warm up tournaments but the government over yes. She was your first big match of the tournament watching experienced. and she. yes she sets of meeting with serena williams. That much played at time. This morning meant well. I have my alarm for about half past. Five and serena was on shortly after that went off so i walked into that match and selena was really good a really strong overall performance. I think she wanted six one six four. She was especially good in that first. Set very clean really good movement. No sign of the achilles injury which she had at the end of last season which she which she said in a i think in her press conference afterwards that the fact that the time was moved back three weeks later was the reason she was able to play it. She needed those weeks for her recovery. Yes she said that the strain pimping pushback was quite an unwanted blessing. It was much needed for me. She says because it can kill injury. She says it. She didn't quite say she was one hundred seventh fit but she just said. There's a lot better now. I think something to look out for with serena. I was looking back at her results. From the end of the season the last three matches she lost. Sheila lost from a set up to shelby roaches in lexington to secretary of the western southern open. And then it was as rink wasn't at the us open. And then she pulled out of her second round match at the french open so that wasn't technically a loss. But i think what. We've noticed with serena over the last few years. How long can she sustain her best tennis. And i think that perhaps becoming one of her problem she. She's coming out of the blocks brilliantly. but she's not quite able to sustain an opponent circling are in a little bit and that it didn't happen today against governor over she maintained a level. That was too good forgetful over but there was a difference between that first in that second set. And i just wonder whether a better opponent might have pushed serena even more in that second set and made that difficult. I really do. Think that is something to wash with serena whether whether she's going to be poached and whether she can sustain her best level over the course of a home at and she could perhaps do with being pushed in this week's tournament so that she pushed for the first time in the australian open. I wish i could tell you who was in her drawer. That might push. I'm just. I'm just scanning through the two drawers. She might be in. Sean identify which one she was is in david's say apiece. Fill in some time. There was a moment first of all. When because i switched on i. I didn't wake up areas matt. But i switched on halfway through the match and there was a moment a little bit of tie to moment where she hit a winner and she let rip a danielle collins type role which really the potato but got. I got the sense that she was in quite a good place mentally. She looks fake. I really up a not. She's plans fatana parole uncover next. Which is somebody Valley in the era valley open cup some think classic okay now yarrow valley river sierra valley. Yes correct that's what it said moore because i talked about the wind deny the wind comes from the era valley. Throwing me off my game. I'm getting it right matt. Actually if she won that one it be the push giver or daniel collins after that current in place cover so there's a lot of does a lot of opposition to go through an actually. I think the high quality of these events because the simony events the draws on that big and you get high quality in each one of them So i think they're all going to be some good tests. I do feel that. This is the first year that we've gone into where i don't think she's going to win a grand slam title personally. You know i've i've been always thinking. She's how many times have. I predicted her as the champion. Probably do the world. Good not to be by me but you know it some. It just feels different now It feels like when you reeled off the other day. Matt that list of players that have won slams since two thousand seventeen when we were reliving that that just feels so much depth theft so many players that could beat serena That that i think that this is Now probably going to be too much for crucially so many players who is best might now be better than serena's best. I kind of feel like as you said it's about how long it lasts done this because remember that i set. She played against as rinker. The other mum. Yeah level awesome. Yeah trey yeah. But she constituted. I watched obviously didn't wake up at five. Thirty ludicrous concept. But i did. I did watch that match this morning in bed with the puppy. And i was very very impressed by serena. Did think she really good then. Of course she sweeney. She's really good. So i don't know i don't know how much look into it. We'll see think. Venus williams really good. Yes she around to six one six three. I should say that. I would expect these players that we're in adelaide to look significantly better than anybody else does for a but then it's difficult. You need to adjust up for the fact that they were not late because they are the best players so it's going to be very difficult to discern how much she's done to them just being great. How much is down to them. Having significant need coined the quarantine conditions venus williams. I thought did look really good and she now faces patrick evita yes. Please convince against patrick tomorrow. Night is also in the e- error valley classic. Right can i just give you a little chilly. Shoddy update because it was serving for the match and he was at love. Thirty and welsh broke him. Went six three up in the tie-break he's had five match points. It's now eight. All in the tie-break chile china's fifth match point double-faulted into the net and he almost couldn't hit the serve because he threw it back behind him so far fellow. Marian that's how you tall and to work on those service yips associated and now shot is just physically winner so you save five matchpoints nationalities. Got much point so they show on his own serve as one at my dad will be delighted to be hearing this. Because he sent me a message earlier. Saying i'm watching the pods with boys shoddy chile which he thinks he's set a rough roy neighbor. Big land lives in relative. He lives in parsons green. Does names londoners okay. So we'll done shoddy. You've won three to the second round of a tournament rituals it gets. It's either the murray river or the great ocean road. asian wrote. Okay i mean lovely concept as you say to keep on top simona also one. They're very easily. She beats anaesthesia. Pasta pavers lena. One coca gulf one. In three over jill teichmann. Here's a final set tiebreak Yet to be to be in the middle of the night so obviously. I was forced to sleep but did we. Did anybody watch that. I was lauded. Jill teichmann in lexington last year and she can really play. She said most results on on clay but she really can't lay and she's got fair bit of variety so i'm not. I'm not necessarily that surprised that she's she's troubled. Kk gov yeah. I think golf was having a little bit of trouble with his serve again. Certainly in two key pressure moment but an to find a way through that tiebreak and she now plays katie. Boater who. I did watch some of Yes me too. And i thought she was excellent thing. She did some of her off season training and now they can't say and she just seems just seems to ready for the season overseas. Been blighted by that backing jewish she had. I was also reading an interview. She did with donald mcrae in the garden and what she talked openly about her chronic fatigue syndrome which i knew was a thing but i didn't quite realize how long she she'd had that and How it affects the way she trains she said she reached the highest ranking during one practice session today and no gym work and she was kind of talking about how the conditions in quarantine therefore one actually too bad for because they put a limit on the amount of work do so. I thought that was really interesting. And if she's in a good place physically. I'm very excited to see what she can do this year because it feels like she should be a top seventy five player consistently with her weapons and she really hit. Kevin skyer off the court today Such as such a huge forehand. I remember watching her beat makarova. The australian open a couple of years ago when that when that forehand was such a weapon. So i think golf versus boater should be Should be very interesting overnight. She'll forever be the answer to a quiz question. Katie boulter wenchi about the Ten point tiebreak The first ever grand slam ten point tiebreaker and when she got to seven and really shop for her. It's all about it. was it to usa. Go show i've i've erased last year. She issued a really sharp. No movement can be her her bete noir and she can like different player if she's gotten opponent that really is able to expose that and get her on the move but when when the bulls in the strike saying she's such a pleasing play to watch. Where if you if you remember back. Two years ago aside from that winner makarova the the way she performed at the fed cup in february and april of last year and she looked okay. Not every opponent was was the best opponent but there were some good ones and she looks a real player. Have a fighter a loved way. She scrapped but yeah i mean. It was a stress fracture of the back pretty much i think an and she just couldn't play is hubbub. He gonna be jural. That's a big question. Mark but i hope we find out a hope for for her sake. I hope she gets a proper run at it to see how she can be and i think she was just coming back wasn't she went overhead. Just starting to play again and think maybe she'd even had a a win in indian wells qualifying something like that and then oversee the season shutdown. So hopefully she can finally build a bit of momentum. Front jones played Three the night. I watched the early stages of that match. She lost out to nadia put. Rosca of french open semifinal. Fame is going to be interesting to see putter oscar. What she's she's able to do to back up that run. One really notable thing that lots of people have been commenting on about what you've seen so far is the sparse crowds. Obviously we saw the. What was the adelaide. Exhibition called a day at the drive and the drive referred to the adelaide memorial. Drive and center right. Yes so you day. The drive exhibition. That was obviously is big return post quarantine that was a one day exhibition on friday featuring the players that had been quarantining in adelaide so top players in the world and it was a small smaller venue smaller stadium in new one in fact than dunham melbourne but it was packed and the atmosphere was glorious. And it felt like this celebratory festival of tennis back and it feels like normal and it pressed all of my phone buttons and i thought i was so conflicted. What she it was glorious. It was making me ache. And i saw you expose yourself to this because this is going to be like for the next three weeks. It's gonna set you on fire and also make you wake cool same time and then come to melbourne and the seventy five tournaments that are happening there and pretty empty really quiet t to the extent that i was looking whether there were even crowds allowed in. Didn't wonder whether that was the issues. Well and very confusing and crowds are allowed in in fact you you. You put a you mentioned on twitter. Dave knew how to reply from the commentator alison mitchell who his been over in australia for longtime. She does a lot of work on the cricket for channel seven out. There does some tennis. Okay well you still a lot of work for the bbc alison mitchell. She's great she. She replied she saying Number one australian open is on the radar these tournaments lesser number to work in schools about whereas the is usually a key part of the summer holidays and put number three. There is apprehension of many melburnians about crowds even with reduced capacity then again europe with buzzing on sunday night. So reckon come it will change smiley face very interesting. An a few people also replied from the area. I mean some people had gone but a lot of people did say that they are apprehensive that they and that's something that i'm looking at for one of the things with the with the adelaide site was seeing this full crowd. And don't believe anybody had masks on. At least i wasn't aware of anybody having a mask on and know took some Some some people watching from the states particularly by surprise. Patrick mcenroe remarked on it on twitter. About wow you know. Full crowd no masks. What's what's going on. And of course. I think they're up to incent melvin now. They're up to twenty five days of successive lack of any positive transmissions and tests. But all people expected to wear the manatt. I'm i'm not one hundred percent sure. And it's an alarming sight to see without even though it makes total sense in terms of if if the virus just isn't around then you got nothing to worry about. I suppose is the argument. They'll alternative argument is that well. Isn't it a better message to send out globally. That you you wear them. That's that's an argument But i know that watching. We're so used to it now. Just makes you feel a little anxious. Because we're so used to indicate by distance and wear masks to one about it. Because i think sort of scientifically medically. I don't i can totally see. There isn't a mosque wearing isn't really thing to think in australia. Because they've just taken this completely different hardline approach to look down look down completely. Closed borders and eliminate the virus dot is their approach rather than kind of manage it limit spread so with with zero cases There is very little cool from us. But equally i think optics really really matter With this plays a native players walking onto onto the court wearing masks and my first thought was well. We all know that you haven't won mosques in the locker room and you just going to take them off as soon as you start the match. What's the point. And then then. I corrected myself and i thought actually know the fact that i'm noticing it is important and that messaging is important and there's very little cost to it for the players to to to make that show with if wearing so why not But then i suppose you could argue crowd all day in sweltering heat. There is quite cost to mask wearing. I certainly wouldn't want to. It would put me off going to watch tennis Sit there all day wearing a mask and forty degrees developing significant mosque. Acne trusted israel. I was surprised to see so few people there. When when when said that when it was confirmed that you can't gut I just saw mail would be all over it really pretty jarring. It's pretty jarring. It's going to be interesting to see how that develops. I think me and particularly the atp cup yes well. I think there probably will be an increase tomorrow with australia. Playing in the pickup nadal and djokovic. John the schedule i think that will be a real salinas test. I suppose in terms of of how many people showing up and as soon as it starts. I should think it will take off from there in terms of size. The yes the melt the hp cup which is still cool data to be cup. That kicks back kicks off tonight. The draw there are four groups three. He got serbia germany. Canada ingred pay and spain. Greece of strata in green bay austria italy france group-c and russia argentina japan group day Pam shriver made the point on twitter. Just drew attention to. There's no american team and the atp cup and right there's no american man in the world's top twenty and that's nothing new particularly the state of america men's tennis but it is pretty jarring so i mean that's a whole whole debate in itself but just an interesting to draw attention to and kicking things off tonight. We've got canada against serbia jovic. Again shop of the pick of the matches their everyone is a great day. One every everyone of the matches particularly the doubles everyone in the toys features. At least one player that i've never heard of which is my favorite thing about the atp cup The serbia candidatae has nikola catch playing doubles alongside philip crianlarich so good luck you. Nikola that follows on from djokovic shop a foul which i'm very much here for And then the night session tie. Is spain against australia. Roberta battista good and john millman. And then it's rough on the dial against addicts manure please and then actually a doubles match featuring four four players that i have heard of clinton interesting line that i read about how few of the australians of won matches in the first couple of days just by having not had any quarantine all. That's the again. It's just such a fascinating few weeks ahead to see what weather conditions. They've been in make any difference to how they get on. Bernanke thomas bless him to withdraw with a knee injury slant quarantine or whatever yeah. I'm quite interested whether the atp cup is good. Preparation fiddle strain open all not. I remember we had this debate last year in terms of its intensity and david. You made a very interesting case. That was too intense to start the season. I think that was quite a lot to that. I mean for example ruling on that case for awhile davies annexed got injured and couldn't play the australian open. But i think this year specifically there's no gap between the two events and for the top players to win it. Be up is four matches against fellow players in the top ten. There's no sort of opportunity to really pace yourself. Which i think is what quite a lot of players like the start of the season so it does offer different dynamic to the one last. Yeah and i think. I think generally with this tournament. When's the best round to go out you know. Do you want to be playing right to the end. I mean i know in the western southern open the assault during final that ended up being the us. Open fun as well. So it didn't really make much difference but i member round h had a brilliant western southern open went out quite early in in the. Us open same with battista. I think this week is quite a lot about pacing yourself and getting the matches you need. Just wonder whether the at become is pretty demanding. Do you think that they will put the handbrake on talk. They will probably will. I mean last year. They didn't but i should think they will. This year. yes djokovic. Just horrible blister of course on And so I mean he says he's fine now. It looked horrible. It did la bad yeah man exhibition joke which is a lot better at putting the handbrake on an adult is. I don't know. If the dow has a handbrake i i think an hp cutler year the dull didn't play the final doubles which was amid indication. The he was treating it as a kind of australian open. Warm up oversee points. And everything. And i wanted to win. But he didn't go all in. I suppose the players might do a little bit more of that this year. yeah that is interesting Russia again staunch and tina features Doubles much with the pairing of donskoy and azlan corrupt. Serve very keen to know what the as long is in fact named off to the e lion in which in the world trade so anybody can tell me that. I would like to 'cause it's great. I'm looking at me i. I haven't got the foggiest acid. That is the eighty cup. Which kicks off tonight. tonight being monday night. Uk time throwing a head to choose day night uk. Time which is wednesday morning afternoon. Australia time that is when the heart quarantine cup also known as the grumpy nhs grampian trophy kicks off and that is where you'll find bank rescue and if if i pick only one tennis player to watch yes week it would be crowned rescue. I'm so on the edge of my seat to see her play in its. I was gutted that she was she was the one she was one of the one. One of the seventy two subjected to the headcorn tino they. She didn't seem that gutted and she was. she's she certainly kept that pretty close chest. I get the impression particular on the basis of An interview she gave to carol in the guardian. The over the weekend that That what she's been through the policy injury-wise has given has such a sensitive perspective on on tennis. And and is very much help to get through not just quarantine but the difficulties being a tennis player. In the past few months she describes the loss jewish. Sometimes sometimes i would. Just sit in my bed and cry. She would say she said to to mining incident in an interview in which it was disclosed in the the intrigued she. She had to interrupt the interview for cova test which is very now. Isn't it came to. But i find that interesting i mean i guess it's no great surprise. I mean awful. What happened to injury is pretty much immediately after winning the us open. Yes she went to. She went to china. She played that mazing match with no saw could which just further wetted our appetites about her potential and then had to withdraw from schenzhen retire from her much and withdraw from the tournament in shenzhen. And that was that was curtains on her. Until now and yeah of course it would have been incredibly tough. But i guess you don't hear from someone for year-old we see is the instagram and it looks like oh she's she's doing all right. You know you should don't you don't put the rubbish stuff on instagram d. He posted themselves sitting in a bed and crying. We're often and she's no. I do find her. An example of somebody that if you just have to think about what that's like i mean yes she's got a great life on the and she's got no money worries that sort of thing the one thing that she wants to be doing and that he wants to do for her career she just hasn't been allowed to do a body hasn't led to do it and then the pandemic constantly today and obviously everybody's in the same boat to some degree there but that is a massive amount of time of your career given me. She played less than she has played since the start of her career and when she has played she's just being a joy an an a factor every single time. And it's she's kind of the great unknown now because we don't really know what she'll come back out like. I hope that. I hope it's like riding a bike that she just picks up and starts playing like she did when she won the us hyphen. Because you throw that. In which serena williams and niamey asanka looking like a different play now and eagles feeling tech and bharti and simona halep who. We've got this line about her. Having been in the top ten for the last eight years. I mean these the so much good stuff there and she i agree with you. She's the one. I will find out what time she's playing and i don't care what else is going on. I'm going to watch that. You're going to have to wait a little while. Because she has a bye in the first round as top seed come on a new said they need a by a draw that small d need boys of they just weren't enough players. Yes okay to the draw but in the second round she will face either her countrywoman. Layla fernandez the the really promising youngster. That's making that transition from genius seen as all fellow. Us open champion slain stevens. Come on that's a that's a draw in half that's a good and isn't it. Also in that draw. Sorry go potential agra alert in the in the round after because it's Actually of a biggest. What was the biggest drama queen. Ever kerber. Nobody for her. She has Sydney of catchiness over in the opening round then would face either on the stripper or on a blink of a and then it would may be andrea skew awaiting as rancor has a by. She could play putin saver in the second round a jennifer brady Faces that lana nets of in our think sheriff brady is entered in doubles. Yeah she's she's one of the ones who's in singles quarantine cup and double somewhere else playing with bharti. Yes we know. They're going to play doubles together at the australian open yet so apparent ican enter both draws in separate tournaments the news that i needed Maria zachary is in this role she also gets a buy in opening round. Had watson is there. I'm belinda bench. The second seed the bottom She gets a buys issued place face either costanza or alison risk. So that's the grampian trophy of any other trophies. Popped up in certain talking. We need to discuss amazingly no. Do we have any other business. Do we have anything else we want to talk about. Do we have any other ones to watch or conditions a quick. Ooh are they isla 2017. Well i should say this is. This is a secondhand assessment of the conditions. It was an interview. I was reading with john millman. He was saying that he wasn't allowed to practice at mobile park last week. Because that's where all the players who had traveled internationally practicing so the australians were being kept apart from them but he was a bit frustrated that he wasn't able to practice because he was haring everything he was hearing was that the conditions are different. This year bit quicker in the booze and not fluffing up they really flying and the actual surface is it different composition to the one they had lost a bit less. Sandy bit less greasy. We spoke in two thousand seventeen show about how much we love that. Those quick conditions that is so hopefully if they are bit faster this year we will. We will enjoy those as well but conditions. I'm always always take assessment of conditions with a pinch of salt. You you speak to two different players and they have completely different opinions on on what it is so So we'll see. I suppose but personally. I'm hoping that they are a bit. He will be hoping that they're not. He will be disappointed by not jovovich jerk likes it. Quick disney but there are more other fires his that like it quick. Actually this is cray probably prefer bit quicker than he used to mean. Just think i mean. I think he'll be fine with times slower than it used to be. Twenty seven if it was quick. He didn't do so well that year. Another other factors Very interesting who would favor. I'm trying to think of somebody who may really have of it ends up. Quick i mean does not that many players. Yeah yeah. I think she could. Yeah absolutely serena right then. Well we're we're coming back with another one of these on on thursday and and another over the weekend and then they come in daily from next week when they'll just be one tournament happening hobie my happy place but it's great to be talking about tennis again. Yeah we have missed it and yeah thing. That's it the absence stopped. He's gonna be talking about tennis happening. Before our very eyes now live in the world is happening. A reminder of our mascot stay vigils is Roque roku who. I've seen a couple of crack. Pictures of recent genyk was listening to a podcast. Had the had the app on the phone next to yes pete sampras told my parents weren't having about pete sampras by the way and i'm not talking to them so we listened to the we really enjoyed great work still opinions unchanged about pizza unmoved unmoved something to do with him always having his mouth open wearing very baggy shorts. Anyway matt your mascot is skeletal muscle. Yes and mine is zeus and billie jean's who she's now called up good as gold on my feet Just basking in the fact that she is sponsored by actual billie jean king the human which is extraordinary our pet mascot for the week on the podcast is chester roach. Lovely chester and executive producer. Is chris. albert. Lee say thank you very much to talk bloke. Chris albert lee bertone's shoutouts they. Are julie west fall julie. A is there like a julie east fall. That's your great rival. Sounds like a sort of mexico. Place doesn't it wasn't it. Yeah all of their energy. Thank you glenn. Ooh like magnus nearly like the gopher old greg yes yeah just go. I wonder how many times he gets that. What a cliche declan declan. I recommend i'd call declan declan. It's good name declan rice. Yeah we've got neil this. He's on the author's name. Yeah yeah think he's going to go to the euros. Which definitely and happened insurance swap. Declan declan law burn for podcast. 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Roland Garros Day 1 - Slams escalate Osaka row; Thiem falls

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Roland Garros Day 1 - Slams escalate Osaka row; Thiem falls

"Hi this is billie jean king. This is marion. bartoli mats wilander. this is mary carillo. i'm stan wawrinka. This is yannick noah. And you're listening to podcasts. Will it stay one of the french. Open twenty twenty one. The sun's shining at least in the uk apologies. If you're somewhere in the world with the sun is not shining but here very much is. It's been shining in paris as well today. David matt and myself rule feeling the joys of spring slash somma wearing parisi any shirt t shirt been a lot of interest matt from fluids of our instagram account in where that shirt is from. It's my french open shut. I think it was the nike line. That was supposed to be out in the spring last year and it never saw the light of day and i bought one for myself and it is a. It's a top french themed french. Open themed it's gonna croissant and tennis courts on it. French flags in nike swoosh shaped. Yes it it's a treat. If nike would like to sponsors that would that would be fine david so far not been in touch but they've not seen modeling modeling stuff before now. Let's support. Yeah today's a as you say it's a bank holiday so they wouldn't be such today with in a couple of days time having digested what matt's wear. I'm expecting a anyway. Clang head toward instagram account. For excellent has content including your daily updates. On matt roberts is wearing. It's been a proper day of grand slam. Tennis hasn't approp- appropriate day Officially day one didn't feature the much talked about brand new nine sessions roland garros but here we are at eight fifteen. Uk time nine fifteen. French time watching sit surpass midway through the first set against jeremy shoddy so in the french open doesn't have a night session today. News the friendship very much seems to be experiencing session. A it's three. all facts. sits of past did have a break in this opening set but show at friend of the porta. Certainly friend of friend of david whitaker is fighting back. So we'll we'll keep you posted on. That seemed to be out of date. Tennis news We've got indicate tennis needs. There's been a lot of it today on day one at the french open. They've been very big notable results. Tennis wise says also been kind of big news will big happenings. Big rumblings away from the cool. That started on. Philip chateauguay at eleven. I am with name your soccer. The world number-two thrown out onto cool. I up against patricia. Maria thebig One of the favorite players of dan evans fun. Fact about the more and evans later Not one of his best days not least because His gal the glossed in straight-sets six four seven six ten ama salka decent performance from her just greater weight of short than patricia. murthy guy. actually. I was really struck by how much of an impact hallway too short with happen having on the clay. She can make those shots stick. She can make her power count on the case just the movement. That's a problem. She gets stuck in the mud and then she gets out of position. It can all go horribly wrong but but but the shots work on clay. That's what that's what struck me about that performance today. Yeah it was a better performance from a soccer than i was expecting probably i loved her intent. Right at the start to as you say trying hit through the court and that was a very long second game of the match she had multiple breakpoints and i thought this is very important for soccer. She needs to win these little battles just to build up confidence sort of chunk by chunk on the clay and she did win that game. She won the first set. Second set went to a tie-break it was a close match. The as you said good player on clay tight lists climb in the past caused a lot of problems especially with that slice but yeah i thought asaka was was pretty good. I think she hit thirty nine winners of rural in the match and yeah. It was a demonstration that when her game is working it can still work on clay. It's just about as you said the movement and being able to find it consistently enough. I think so. She been in a second set. Tiebreak david let you to sort of try and describe the demeanor if the breese santoro during his loitering with intent at the side of the court experience before sort of going in for the approach to a soccer about whether or not she'll do the own coors as much because nobody knew that was going to happen with that comes under the umbrella of of press if media which she says she was in a poll. Taken it tricky assignment for santoro. I would say tricky assignment for me. Trying to describe however i i can relate. To how every central is fading in that moment. You and catherine of both been in positions where we've stood courtside being the person who needs to approach a player to organize an interview or to do an interview and sometimes it can be very difficult depending on what's going on. I must say. I've never been in a position quite like he was in today. Where where this has become an international sporting incident that she is or isn't going to speak publicly and Yeah he he shuffled over looking like somebody who's about to meet the parents of somebody. They're going out for the first time the fact that he was carrying flowers. Yes exactly yes fast. The mother of the person you are very much hoping sort of thrown into the fray with a with a with a ball skit for flowers today. Miyazaki's mother it was. Yes yeah leave. It was mother's day in france. Today was a brief moment of panic when it's mother's day in another country yet. Oh my god. I forgot his day. There's another one in america and we've got different ones that at least three and probably many many more but anyway he managed to get the words out and sure enough. She did the colts interview. Which was itself pretty awkward affair. I genuinely don't know what was said. Because they hadn't sorted out the the the audio for broadcast. It obviously worked within the stadium. You could hear that it was going out and but it was. It was all echoey and yeah completely inaudible may say a few words that we did get from name as never knew what they were. The will i heard them. I think i think he kind of depending which channel you're on which feed you get him because it started off as you say very equity and eventually i started it started a faith through the actual broadcast sand and Yeah it was all i mean. Look sometimes niamey. Interviews can be awkward because she will not necessarily answer a question in a typical way and sometimes it leads to absolute gold and other times. It leads to awkwardness. This one was more of the latter. And i think he's probably accentuated by the fact that we have this standoff this or this statement from her about what she's not going to do and nobody completely new weather where they stood so yeah. It was three questions three pretty says she went off. She went and then not long. Afterwards we receive a statement. I i saw reported by chip fraser of the times reporting that she was fined. Fifteen thousand dollars for a place much press and there was a statement released on behalf of all the grand slams reporting that the roland garros teams. All's to reconsider her position off to the match and tried unsuccessfully to speak with her to check on her wellbeing further in the statement it said we have advised naming i saw could that should she continue to ignore her media obligations during the tournament. She would be exposing herself to possible. Further code of conduct infringement consequences as might be expected repeat violations attract tougher sanctions including default from the tournament in references. The the code of conduct conduct article. em- play there on the trigger of a major defence investigation that could lead to more substantial fines and future grand slam suspensions. We want to underline. The rules are in place to ensure all players a treated each exactly the same no matter their stature beliefs or achievement. As a sport there is nothing more important than a searing ensuring. No player has an advantage over another which unfortunately is the case in this situation if one player refuses to get dedicate time to participate in media commitments while the under this all on the commitments. Finally all grandsons are committed to continually reviewing and discussing opportunities together with the tools place to improve every aspect of the player experience including with the media. But we consider this is only ever achieved through respectful and constructive discussions. So if some of the responses today may soka have been sensitive preps condemning condemning the ultimate action but sensitive to State of mind and her wellbeing indisposition while this statement node to sensitivity for her state of mind as a threat in there. isn't it that is a threat of default from the tournament. That is a threat of some very hefty sanctions on it is a significant escalation of Developing into a bit of a cold war. What do we think of that statement. It's basically an ultimatum. And i actually. I was quite taken aback by by it. I wasn't expecting something that i wasn't expecting a coordinated approach from all four major tournaments. I can take the law to get one of these does. And that felt light right. Stumping down the straightaway. We were sending a message for every other player and not only that. You mustn't follow in her footsteps. But also that. We are aware that what i was discussing last night. There is a fantasy issue to apply. Not doing what everybody else is doing. And having the financial resources to just be able to do that whereas some plaza wouldn't and whilst i feel felt that last night and immediately after she did the same that that was an element to the story. But i was still shocked by this. This wasn't what i would anticipate. And my my immediate reaction to it was to feel a little bit more light you by failing when we were talking about it last night which is just what a shame it all is. And where is it. In a way. I i feel about uncomfortable with the nfl. Like it's it's it's a bit too much really is was my instinctive reaction i get it. I ready to get where they're coming from. But i slightly just not really a wheaton. We go in there already. was my immediate failing on it and i don't like this where it's going it's whole. I mean still feel that she made a very bad misjudgment. And with this which is but at the same time i i. I think. Come on everybody. We just need to now now. Maybe this is the line in the sand. Now let's calm down an diffused and sorted out because i am wary that she might decide to say well. Okay i'm i'm not going to be pushed around and i i mean. Where do we go from next to. She pulled out the tournament. Does she go on strike. I think these possibilities. I have absolutely no knowledge. Until i don't know i don't know how how she feels about it. But she's when she believes in something we've seen that she's prepared to stand her ground on. Even though i think actually on this one. I think she should have taken a different. Course of action initially. I just hope we don't have that. I hope we can pull back from where we are. Yeah yeah. I do much about that really. It made me uncomfortable in it. It felt like a very. I think hanover on twitter. A us that we will that escalated quickly. Give it did feel like it. Felt like okay maybe note to one hundred but the you know some close to note to see some my place to one hundred in the space of about about half an hour and i will end to stand with the grand slams coming from you know. I think we expressed that yesterday. I just wanting to help but feel how. How much lonely place name. must be in at the moment. Must be very tough to be her and yes she she is inadvertently invited some of that. I think but i still feel for her. And this is the extensive if this cold wolf feels unnecessary to me. It felt felt surprising. I mean i think. The wording of the code of conduct is quite vague initiatives. I don't think anyone expected that skipping. Each press conference would count as repeat violations so not necessarily chelation also. I'm not sure anyone soul this coming in that way. The fills quite heavy handed. Disproportionate response perhaps When you consider many of the things that have happened in tennis in offenses which haven't led to a very coordinated by swift joint statement from the grand slams. This seems a bit that they've chosen this one to go with that kind of coordinated. I don't wanna say attack on soccer. But i liked your threat. It did feel like that. Yeah it doesn't feel like this is the way to go. I think i'm i'm pleased that they've said that they tried to speak with a soccer. But it's i think it sounds like they've given up quite quickly with that. I think that there's an opportunity here for important dialogue to take place before we arrive at any of these. Bigger threats really wonder. Hasn't catherine that the element of that hold on we. We've tried to get in touch with you and you've just got back in touch with us right then. Yeah i it does feel like i mean the irony of all of it is when i saw that statement my initial reaction was. Let's love hit. What name you talk about that. And sure she'd have a really intelligent considered response to it. Yeah is just such a shame that we're getting to hear what she she thinks about it but that we'll where we will. We've we've had fairly predictably Alexander zverev prior to his match against What is what is autism first name. I'm so distracted. The oscar rotter the distracted by the is named of to one of my favorite animals that i neglected his first name A much he went two sets love down incidentally but fought back in one new very bizarre five-set match because even at two sets down never quite felt like he was gonna lose the second one to break up in the third it all it wentz verify incredibly quickly but anyway as reported by luca jacobs on twitter. Lewis told zverev at the coin. Toss that he's late again for the coin toss and he he replied with you know how name he said. You can find half for every single match. She's not at the press conference. You can find me for every single match being late. So in predictable. Developments news dot is thing that has happened anyway. Zverev safely through to the second round of the open. Something that can be said of number. Four seed dominic thiem. He followed naming salka onto the shower. Trae court he was taking on the world number sixty eight pablo andy hall of pooping on the roger. Federer comeback policy in geneva fame. A couple of weeks ago and lost trim. Two sets up did dominic thiem. He lost four six five seven six three six four six four in well over four hours i think. And you hoes. First ever victory over a top five player Matt had a bit of chat to him after his win theory well well-deserved when and we'll we'll come onto onto hall plenty in a moment but this means not only the dominic thiem horror show continues but there's now no grand slam champions in the bottom half of the men's draw which is an extraordinary thing and a new vote on garros finalist guaranteed. Wow that's any day one. I mean yeah they look on. We've talked about the the trials and tribulations dominic thiem if late but even so this is. This is a massive massive day. One shock i don't know about you but i think the strangest thing for me was this match was going on for four and a half hours. This guy it was just always on an for large portion of it. I wasn't giving it my fullest attention. Which seems a strange thing to say considering it was team. Who's a two-time garros. Finalist of current grand slam champion. He was on the ropes. A lot of this match and yet yes. It is a big shock for sure but it didn't have that shocking elements factor to it. That made me hang on absolutely every single point and see if team could fight back into it. And i think that is indicative of where dominic thiem is at at the moment. He never felt like a huge contender to win this tournament. Because of his form has been And just trying to put my finger on what is going on with team at the moment. Hey sounds as much at a loss. As i think anyone to be honest. He he doesn't have an answer he still feels like he's processing. Becoming a grand slam. Champion happened quite a while ago. Now it feels like he's at least so he's able to. He should be able to play tennis but he said he said it perfectly. He's summing up what's wrong with his game but he can't figure out why and he said my shots don't have the power on them and that is something i've observed i mean dominic thiem at his best is an enthralling tennis player because he dominate accord and generate so much power in his shots. Push people around even in those first two cents today when he was playing respectably. I didn't feel that weight that power the team has and he said i've lost a few percent just feels like that has happened. And when you when you play. Deep is dominic thiem. Does those sent that power that accuracy. It takes you from thunderous shoulder in juicing ground strikes to groundstrokes. Is that actually. Sit up pretty nicely into the hitting zone for the opponent. It reminds me a little bit of the nadeau in those couple of years where he didn't reach grand semi fun. Twenty fifteen and two thousand sixteen. I think was suddenly as you say. Penetrating shots become shots. That rumors almost begging to be hit a little bit I mean even so. He was in a position to win the match. He had this strange intensity drop at the end of the third set. Start of the full set and that let and do hough back in and he took full advantage and even in the fifth set there was a little spark. I think team had a shot behind his back to get the to get the deciding. Set back on serve and i thought okay right here we go. He's clicked into gear and yet he was never able to capitalize on those moments. It's it's very very strange. I mean i'm still. I'm still holding my star contaminate team long term. I think i have to. But this fascinating. I do wonder if you need like a a radical change i love nicolas massu as a coach and it is obviously really worked is nothing to do with his skills as a coach. Or maybe you keep him aboard. But i feel like he may be just need someone to come in and shake that to me. Yeah i know what you mean. Because i would have. If anybody had told me a player would have diplomat this after a grand slam victory i would have thought he would have been the last player for it to happen to i kind of get it from the perspective of climbed the mountain after all these years of trying and then walk. Get a do get it. I just wouldn't expected to happen to him. I thought he's so relentless that he just that it would be it would be the turbo booster needs to go on and just break into the the group at the top of the all time. Group is a species. Seems quite a single single-minded kind of guy doesn't a he's he he. He's open about that you know. He doesn't get easily distracted Tennis chelsea Are the things in life. Tennis chelsea dogs penguins. He's not he's not stephanos. Sits pass going round fight groping bins in back. Kelly's new york getting the win. Is you know what. I mean like since safe. Set points against jerry show. Yeah off to the lowest. This team had to save a struggling with my mate of asian. The game is just not there today. The shots are not powerful enough accurate enough. Not moving well enough. I don't really know why why it's not the real me. Lou version that can play for big titles. Pablo andy ho. The good dismay thirty five years of age being the top five player for the first time and dazzled us all with his linguistics would a man. But i've had one of those moments with andrew hull today where you know when someone's been in your consciousness for so long and you've thought the certain way and i suddenly realized he's not what i thought it was a tool i i had unfairly pigeonholed him as a certainly very respectable tennis player with an impressive career but not someone who is particularly interesting beyond that other overseas overcome injuries. That's all very interesting. But just i didn't know he had so much to david. You did because you said you've spoken to him a few times and found him really charming and nice and that was. David tipped his off today to his press conference. That was the exact experience i had and i just asked him about those language skills and yeah turns out. He speaks five languages. He was doing press in all five languages. One of those languages. I didn't know existed before today. Valencia is is that like sort of cornish. It's it's it's like catalan. it's just dialect of catalan. But yeah he he. He was really great and funny. In all of those languages spoken french on the call and he said that this was like like a gift that tennyson given him and it was like father christmas. Come along in these last two weeks given that he's beaten federer and and team and he credited that federal way with giving him so much confidence and he said he's been through so many injuries he didn't win a match on atp to offer twenty five months at one point his his ranking fell about one thousand eight hundred or something and he said now he just enjoys every event he gets to play. Because you said he's in his mid thirties and he didn't think he would be having this. I don't know if it's the second wind or third wind. Whatever it is. He didn't think he would be having these moments in his career. And maybe they're not the you know. He might not see what he's done in the last couple of weeks is the pinnacle of his career. Because he's he's one of those matches of other tournaments but it certainly the period he's enjoying the most in his career. And i just thought that was. I just thought that was lovely. Very uplifting story papuan the hall. Everybody bit dominic thiem and his funds. Hello folks tennis. Podcast today is sponsored by america's number one meal kits fresh which cuts out all the stress of meal. Planning grocery trips. And all that you can get your dinner on the table in about thirty minutes or less which catherine suspension would sit you down to the ground. Yes very much so Also like Cutting out the grocery shopping element. Because i always end up doing that. When i'm hungry and that's just a recipe for disaster because end up with an entire show. That's just crisps correct. And it's also twenty eight presents cheaper shopping at your local grocery store and seventy two percents on average cheaper than any restaurant meal without sacrificing any of the quality. 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Because i had picked nets to beat as a rank in the newsletter predictions. We try to go with inverted commerce. An upset victory for trying to make excuses. If the fact that we go out three right today between us but i think if there is a wooden spoon david goes to matt today. That makes you feel any better. He's barely games. Go from went for year. Evasively to be karen hatchet of i have action of on upset. Watch sort of every day. And i was. I was lost to make my pick. There's my excuse we'll be other ones have been taken went for that. One it was horrific one is the most one sided matches the day. Anyway as as you would well this and I mean it was. It was all over the place school wise as a rank. The first set six of the first seven games were breaks of serve and as a a won the set six four. Then next thing on. I went out to to look after the kids for came back in and it was five love because nitsa in the second set so i'm getting very excited by this point. And then i watched the whole of the third set and as i was leading five one when she got a bright break back did because nasa but the rallies were just epic the effort. These two women who are multi multimillionaire that both being at the top of the game. The both one grand slam titles. They don't need to be doing this. And they're they are just do kicking it out loving the competition and the sheer rallies the because they can still play such a high level. I think we'd kuznetsova. I mean i think she's almost got the perfect game for a clay-court she won this title. What twelve years ago. But if you watch a forehand is just a little bit like watching bharti's for just lashings of topspin the bulls just leaping off the servers when it lands and she's strong and fit but i think i do think that when players get to the she's out now and the amount of play she's had i think the concentrations sort of goes in and out a bit more. I don't think the laser focus for an entire match. Is there nothing. That's what you saw. When she won the second set there was a there was a dip and azarenka took advantage it just a brilliant match and who knows what are we get easier or not but she certainly up against the prestigious town next in everybody's favorite laura tyson. She everybody's favorite well. Everybody she's everybody's sort of cool pick. Yes the french open last year. Which of course a lot less than a year ago when we all. I really had sort of communal chloro- townsend watching experience. When she beat general brady was an issue. I just put it in the agenda town happening. She won in straight sets today and tau sin against is something. I'm very much here for. Let's stay with the other results in the women's side of the draw today win for patrick vivus resets for a a greet minin dainty quite saved a match point. She did so. That's definitely one to watch. I was with circle the player who saved points In in a match in yes. She hit a backhand call winner to save it and then she was asked about it in her uncle interview and she interrupted the question and said yesterday. Yes i i remember it it. It's been my daily bread. Since i was a kid the backhand cross-court on amazing an afraid. Give us this day. All backhand cross-court winner exactly of the results on the women's side of drill powell dosa. Lauren davis in straight-sets. She's another one that you spike to think matt. Yeah i just find it interesting because she got into this draw as the see she got bumped up so she seated at a slam for the first time. And it's the first time. I've gone into a slam expecting things from her. That's probably generally true about most people people are talking about but those in a way. They haven't talked about her before because of the good result she's had on clay so far this season and i just wondered whether just how aware she is of those outside expectations and is she putting more expectations on herself and and she made an interesting point. Actually she said oh. Pro players a used to having expectations because at some point they've all been at the top. You know for example when the coming through junior to make a pro chances are you stood out as genius. she said. I've tried to ready channel energy that i used to have to expect more of myself and now expectations haven't changed. But i've got proof that i can deliver on it before. It was a bit of a a bit of a fantasy. What i hope to achieve. But now i've won the title of the semifinal of madrid. So i know. I can do it and you know. She's the software section of the jewel. And i think pretty good today. So i think that's that's looming as a potential third or fourth round match. Which would be very very interesting. I think Thank you kovic next. Four but dosa Incidentally the next opponent full. Patrick evita is elena. Vezina would story. She's hundred a grandson indian wells champion of course and multiple grand slam doubles champion. I think Yeah i think this is a for her first much win. Her grand slam match wins. Since since come back from from having a baby. And i i mean. I thought she'd retired. I i i don't know whether this comeback was always planned with it was always going to be just a break from the sport but yeah certainly been surprised to see her name enrolls in an incredible incredible win. Today's sabah linka was winner in two sets Sort of that by the way just out of sheer curiosity madrid foam. No she started quite slowly. I think she was down. Salamanca in the first set and connor is a similarly powerful hitter. But and and actually a lot of the time i will kind of sack lament shutdown. Just imagine those two in big shots at each other but invariably what happens it just ends up being an unforced fast because how can you control an opponent's pace like that and send it back interest. I mean occasionally you might get the odd one off where they're both teeing off the same time but it's read both able to do it at the same time and then from four to dance. Blanca just took over. And i think she she lost her. Why completely yeah. Tell the tough time for konia. I hate that that she can you find that spoke that she's she showed us points in the polls because she can be a breathtaking player on had day. Daniel collins was a winner today along g. you in three sets. If you haven't had the chance to eat some briggs piece about daniel collins in the end me. Traces that she she battles with on a daily basis and she's revealed that she's been suffering over the post It's an extraordinary piece. And daniel collins an extraordinary athletes and competitor in and she was a winner today and his is one to watch of course at this tournament. She was a semi fun this year. So i give you best. Sun breaks news. Yeah yes please. Because you can imagine i think just on this day. Generally this is the most exciting and eventful sunday starts that we've ever had run girls which you agree. It just feels like just things that just felt. I think for start. They the way they did. The older play just made it something better than they typically has been in the in the past but then the way the matches have gone and obviously this this huge news story over a soccer. It just makes it a very meaty thing now for god like simon. Who's covering the event for newspaper and the telegraph website. There's there's a lot to get stuck into and anyway. We exchange messages a little bit earlier today and he said to me. This was at ten minutes to six pm. I haven't got dressed yet. I'm in pajamas. In this on your heels was on. I have seen his body today. Pajamas distracted by his hair. I didn't a also revealed the he'd gone out last night to an inverted commas restaurant. You read things on a list and then they bring them to you. He said anyway. This time rigs news and yes the dimitriou story menu relation to many joke right. And and then you come and And he's also written about soccer and dan evans. Yeah simon's being really working very hard so we need to make it. Worthwhile for him and raiders. Stuff lost significant results. I think on the women's side from today was that angelique kerber hopes of a career grand slam have faded into into obscurity for another year. I think this is a third consecutive. First round loss at the french. Open french leaker but she looks to china. Kalina sixty six four and yeah. It's we've talked about it before it's always baffled me. That kerber has an sort of thrown her entire being into mastering clay and trying to become a french open. Champion buys ways. That result is a one office and a huge surprise but generally angelique kerber at the french open has always been a Of the last few years has been a bit of a surprise to me. But she's out one note on the magnificently named anna. Lena catalina is just a follow up on what you were saying. Yesterday catherine about the importance of the grand slam development fund He's a player who has benefited from it. a lot. she was given Twenty five thousand dollars state by the it f. And in a particularly significant steve of course colson. I found out school written by jamie renton on the website where she just talked about. How much help she said. It allowed me to prepare for tournaments. Even if the world stopped. I was able to put this money into my process to keep going to keep training with fitness trainer. Every day a lot of montrouis not earning money. We not working a difficult time for everyone. I didn't have to worry about. Oh my god. How am i gonna pay my physical trainer. How am i going to pay for the court. And it helped set of both practically and also emotionally not to have those worries as well so yep just a just a very good example of the of the good work that that grand slam development fund dozen loads and loads of players have benefited from it in the past That's great stuff. Matt really interesting. Her name by the way belongs in an aba chorus in my opinion and alita nina view agenda points to get through not much time in. That's really sent me way. Of course how can we get back on track of. Oh moeletsi don evans lost today to mimic catch. None of it. She lost in four sets despite winning the first six. One at all to be very plain sailing fidel evans. He described the losses at dire end to a decent claypool season. He said it's becoming a bit too. Common being breaks up in grand slam sets and not putting them away because he was a break up in the full sutton looked like he was gonna take into a fifth but really couldn't get it going catchment of its katzman of which i think it is today who he played a really really good match. But i mean i. I think this is a terrible results. For donovan's i mean. He's had some rough draws in grand slams. You can put it a little bit of his unexpected early losses down but it had been expecting a win today. He's a monte-carlo semifinalist. And this is a a bulls up ready for him and his demeanor impressive. Afterwards indicated as much. I think he was. Yeah pretty peeved at himself. I mean it must be very frustrating. He is he's having the best period of his career and his worst grand slam results. You this is the first time. I think he's ever lost three in a row in the first round slabs now. Two of those have been the french open which traditionally has been his weaker surface so perhaps a slightly misleading stat. But we have those. And i think the point stands he is. He's struggling to find his best tennyson slams and it's interesting this seems to be no consensus in what the best approaches for peaking slams. You get a lot of players. Who say i'm treating it like every other tournament and then you get someone that dan evans. Who really put the pressure on himself. I remember in australia. How disappointed he was with his trip overall to stralia even they want his first title. He was most focused on the fact that he went out in the first round of those trading open. And it's just interesting to me that he does put that pressure on himself the expectation on himself. I just find it fascinating how you would change that mindset. Because i suppose you're gonna try kid yourself struck me as a person. It's something he needs to overcome. I think these lambs he definitely sounded to me like he was gonna do some serious thinking as a result of this interesting to see we'll film on the gross nishikori nishikori has cemented his status. If it ever needed doing as the best unnecessary five-set player of all time. Both i mean he just about leads on executives getting into unnecessary five-set matches but his ability to extricate himself and just taught up that particular statistic should that be of any value in in the rest of his life is unparalleled. It's just the he empties his canister along the way and ends up hitting a brick wall of fatigue hall through grand slams. That's kind of since two thousand fourteen in his use hyper final. That's what kennedy korea does. Yeah but anyway. He wanted today in five sets. What's his five-set record. Now matt do you think i'm being harsh mask merit. No i'm just. I'm just sad. That's the truth. Is looking at saint crest. bang on. Let a cane. You corey positive. What's his grand slam. Five-set record. But i think this is the point. It's an incredible recoup. Is it a positive. It's just read out and let it speak for itself. We will move on okay. Twenty five wins seven losses. Great success rate stuff k. Weldon current looking at the positives bouquet nishikori on the very much less pos. Different really gutting the today food. Griddle dimitrov He retired of the having led two sets to love and five warn against marcus. G sheron Yet really ready sound scenes full dimitrova. I think it's the back injury the same back injury. The that troubled him at the australian open against corrosive Yeah just yeah horrible. To say four one of the fittest guys onto always always been such a a fee for all his frailties. His body hasn't been one save for his body to be failing him is a is a tough one to see. Say we wish you will grow and we'll see when the gross which leads me just to whizzy through tomorrow as order of play as speak to you stephanie. Sit surpasses taking a therapy close. I set some six over. Germany shoddy and it's early stages of the second to maury It's the defending champion eager. Sean circa evening things up kai shut then boob lick against medvedev. I reckon not be about eleven forty five. uk times council. Whatever you've got on for that. Well i think boob lick darryl Predictions competitor listened. Listened to me yesterday. Same good liquid win on nick. That prediction because he's comfortable okay Then estermann against federal federal gets and not before time which is very nice room. isn't it That's not before four pm. Local three pm in the uk and then in the first night session match on chat tray with official night session much eighteen. In the first week. serena williams takes on arena. Camelia begay on long island. I cinna against a bear than siegelman against go. Sierra then cannon against the penco and then song geoghegan's nishioka that's a heck of a show. Jalen longman i reckon a coupla days matches could end up. Being crack is Simone mature the piccola matches. There's probably a rude against pair and then mcgary. Three reagan's cost york This plenty more elsewhere rid. It's an even busia fuller shedule if much is tomorrow. Wednesday mazzetti against avid go found fourteen to lost upon court. Fourteen bank address. Rescues playing out there query against is ner. That's i stop that kid roadblock fourteen and create greater night's session over there as well pretty an older slang cracking day one at the french. And it's still going because because they've got flood lights and they'd definitely definitely having a night session as i look at my screen. Jeremy short s fist pumping and it looks like he's he settled in for a big one. Say that's been your day. One french open tennis. Podcast will be back with another one tomorrow when our mascot will be as it is for the whole fortnight phoebe and lucci h. She's no longer with us. But phoebe is lovely lovely. Kogi big corgis. We will have our in moscow z. Smut scott scouser mouthful. David's go wrong. We we promise. We pledge we hope to do a better job for them tomorrow. Billie jean jean king. She isn't covered itself in glory today. Either in whole sperm. And i've had to down sir in dry shampoo. All the producer is chris. albert. Lee read simon stuff. Re- leaves an apple podcasts review. Tell you friends and join us again. Tomorrow for data to french. Open tennis podcast.

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The French Open Catch-Up with Joel & Kim: Round 4 - witek shocks favourite Halep; Thiem outlasts Gaston; Qualifiers Trevisan + Podoroska progress; Nadal sets up Sinner test; Kvitova + Kenin on collision course; Should Zverev have played with symptoms?

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The French Open Catch-Up with Joel & Kim: Round 4 - witek shocks favourite Halep; Thiem outlasts Gaston; Qualifiers Trevisan + Podoroska progress; Nadal sets up Sinner test; Kvitova + Kenin on collision course; Should Zverev have played with symptoms?

"Hello Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to the passing shot tennis PODCAST BY FANS on Joel I'm Kim and today we're looking back on round four at the French Open. Gentlemen thank. You. Kim We are almost there. We're almost at the end of round four at the French Open chronic is literally about win the last round four match in the men's section we've got she got one more round four match to play in the women's Joel which has she been delayed and will be on first thing tomorrow morning I mean this this round really I, think the main stories out there are the weather unfortunately has created ugly head and made it a bit stop-start easy. But when we have had play on call, we have had some of the. Biggest upsets of the competition so far, and of course, one of them. Probably. The biggest upset across the whole tournament safe are semester number one seed Ho favor giving out in a ridiculous see surprising fashion It was developing whilst we recorded our route three catch up. That's Yeah. I mean I feel like that's the that's really the only place we can stop because that was one of the only ones that result unexpected but the scoreline as well was. Doubly expected and. I mean three on tech really just a breakthrough performance from her wasn't a absolutely I mean we did she capture that performance live on our latest boat i. mean the result rather we we kind of live dating during because I was it of. Couldn't really believe what I was saying I mean we knew that field intact was going to be a different opponents this time last year because he had an extra year on the circuit to mature and and get that experience against top players under her belt. But I don't think anyone expected the fashion of of victory. You know she just didn't put a foot wrong. She was playing with such kind of variety and I mean how it didn't play badly she just couldn't really do anything to to kind of withstand what she wanted was coming up with and. I mean if you take keep that full Bah A. She's She's playing tr- Trevisan to Maury and I mean she on tech is obviously the higher ranked player in in that match so Arguably is the favor and then I mean I. don't see why she can't go on and win the whole tournament. We soar happened with Yelena? West Bank of years ago. There's absolutely no reason why Just because she's on seeded and outside the top fifty can't go all the way off to what we've seen similarly though Joe I wouldn't get too carried away and I can tell you see her perhaps not playing well and it going the other way. It's it's all up in the air still. Yeah I mean it's always a question of of of upsets of this magazine is whether you can. You can back it up because. She I think people now are seeing her as the favourite. You know forget rankings forget seeds. She just beats Simona Halep who had. Just inaugurated Anisimov over. and yeah. I, think for for a lot of people she's inherited that position. As the as the top favourite. I mean the thing that was most impressive to me about it was. Literally, this time last year I wouldn't say. I literally I. Mean This last year at the French Open. It was it was. His feeling tech and. Absolutely, bulldozer lovin things like love and one. And we've had a complete role reversal twelve, twelve, sixteen, sonal, whatever I mean. Yeah. It's just it. I mean, it just makes. It just makes you realize how fascinating compelling tennis could be because you can have these matches and you can learn from them, and then you can have a moment fervor down entire time y you can make good on kind of the. Learning that you've done over the last twelve months and you know right that wrong and I think. Really Just. Just paid remarkably well, and she started. So quickly, the economy reminded may actually have know how that versus Serena Williams in that Wimbledon final it was just like light. Help this really, she couldn't even kind of stay intact really and I think the the thing I was nice thing was the fact that because of the format of the, you know the women's draw as best of three sets. When a play, it does have such a fast aw. Likes feeling. Dade it's there's. There's less time to have sort of a recovery phase before you can kind of go back into soap mood and you didn't have that didn't have that luxury and ultimately it was just kind of left by the wayside. Yeah I think sometimes they. I'm sure be kind of ruin the fact that you know she. She was coming into this tournament on a big win streak. Hope favor. But at the end of the day, she just came up against if I was inspired and probably would have beaten any player I, think on that day. Much. Like somebody in help again Serena in that final loss Jay it was kind of just one of those. Kind of spellbinding form. Ince's really that Yukata just have to say to in a way and I mean it's a shame because it says something that. You know how it came a corporate to Anisimov but last year. Maybe. Sweet spent it was extremely attacking how much more defensive player she's kind of. Grafting and getting all back but it wasn't really anything she could take to field in tech and it's maybe an issue when he comes up against players who are playing lights out does she have an answer? especially if they go kind of you know five up in in twenty minutes or something, and it's a massive kind of break we're at the stall. Day perhaps that's something that she needs to think about a I think if any other player the other day how it would've won I mean I just I feel like it's just the luck of the draw that she faced her and it was bad luck really puts a yeah I mean I mean how? WILL BE PEOPLE WHO Have our cheers the favor in some cases will sheehan tech realized. will she now think Oh, I've got pressure meeting. People are expecting things of me is not GonNa Change things with full minutes from now on. That's what I've been trade find out. Yeah. Because of she's I think she's in nineteen years old great. Great. Another great prospect for the the Women's game and you know the maidment, their oversee the comparisons. With a police background to play I like aggravate advance girl who was a fantastic player in back in her day But obviously, we put right around skin that category of some of the best players never to never to have won a grand slam and. You know I. Think kind of looking at. Yes she owned texts performance. De wet where do you kind of see her getting decent? She could be allowed. Number one is she going to be a grand slam champion Ezekiel? Be Most Book? No Grand Slam champion. I. Think these kind of questions were kind of interested to see. How they develop and? Kind of how I think would be kind of kicking us off at the. Kind of missed opportunity because it was, it was a missed opportunity. At the same time Going to be looking at this to be like, Hey, this is gonna be my this is going to be big moment. Yes. She had a big breakthrough match but now she's got the opportunity to make big breakthrough slam and we've seen we've seen that happen in the does happen it can happen at the French Open So yeah, we. We will say but yeah, I mean, especially inner is the top seed left in the in the in the top half of the draw. But I mean she I think she's really got anything much to fear because you know we've got no in the top at least we know Grand Slam champions, it's all sort of. Fillings obviously been here before, but you apart from that I mean she's definitely going to be. Bags of confidence in her to think that she can go on and win the thing. Yeah, I mean, Switzerland. Now, ready if you think about her and the other names in her side of the draw, you would think on paper looking at ranking and previous performances slams he think, Sicily no, this is absolutely how best chance to. Make, a slam final for the first time perhaps when it We spoke to her coach didn't we joe earlier on this year Andy Battles and yeah, that was very much. Like her next goal was she going to break through a maker? Fine Oh Osaman this is surely her best Charles to do that but I mean, should we looking at thinking? Well, you've done that to help. You. Get ready to me. If you know if they were to me Selena Lena has. Puerta Rosca. In the coaches tomorrow so you would expect three into come through that You know she's a very consistent player she doesn't turn up and. Play horrendous she you know you've got to beat visiting basically she's she's not going to. Lie Down, and let you kind of awkward over her say. It's no ascension to. Get anything in twenty twenty as. Women's Irvine at Roland Garros. I mean, you've got to looking at you've got to really be a spiel on tax a semi, but we do have the qualifies a Trivia sign and Puerta Rosca who have briefed on. So incredibly well, this tournament. Nadia Puerto Oscar she was ranked two hundred and fifty five at the office season. She's one of the socially fourteen matches this year you. There hasn't been any tennis for anyone to play. So she's done that trade in a handful of months really. She's going to be in the top hundred of the her sharing hair, which is great and then oversleeping. Trevor San, she beat Kiki Buttons. Yesterday in straight-sets. I topped him victory I. Think it was only the second time. She's actually played a top ten player I think have have first appearance against Stockton by was actually against persons last year. So she's kind of getting better and better and more confidence she goes through each round. Xi Jinping sacrilege being Gulf I mean she's now some versions so she's not gonNA. Be Easy to be either. No I. Think I think what? What it says with two qualifiers in. The quarterfinals of French Open I, think what it shows you. Think is the regardless of who your opponent is. If you can if the season you able to get lots of matches under your belt regardless of who's facing across the net I think that has you know pay dividends. About put Roscoe and the fact that she's played and won forty two matches across all levels in in twenty twenty. I think the fact that if you just got a court and win, it just gives you just gives you confidence a gives you momentum and Similarly with similar with Travis on that just kind of carrying that momentum. Food and it doesn't. It almost takes rankings out the window. They just have disbelief when they go and call based on based on the matches they played in know if you compare that to you know the top players in the top say maybe haven't been able to to get out on as much oil. You know they've you know maybe Phoolan a in the first round of the second round in in kind of the build up Golden the opposite way. So you know I certainly think seeing these qualifies, Hey, shows you the you know the. Importance of winning and only the insignificance of you're at she facing across the court. If you win, it's going to give you that confidence to. To to to believe in and you know here, we ought to qualifies in the French Open Quarterfinals for the for the women I think Joel it's it's also it'd just this year we've got to qualify is in at this stage and It Been Yaroslava Federer, I think in two thousand twelve and she was the loss qualify to do that. So it's been eight years a long time that we have. In this and now he's not yeah I mean it's very surprising and I just adding that, I think on Selena I mean my always my question mark was fitting Grand Slam is I always think that she can beat the players the. She's expected to be and really it was a question of what she was GonNa have that. That breakthrough in terms of beating. At all. Top A top five player. At Grand Slam level. That was like that was my question. So. I'm still thinking is fit Selena in head I. Think she's got the right mindset and the right application that she's GonNa she can. Come through this path of the the jewel I I. Agree I'm expecting US Selena Seon Tech Semifinal. By I'm thinks fit SELENA given her experience? In this in this environment and the stages of grandson slam, I, think all you think that's GonNa pay dividends and. Always interesting kind of seeing these these routes people take to. The latter grandsons because we someone. WHO You know they. Is. Through. On. The other hand we call someone like Selena who we feel like kind of a domain team has kind of been biding her experience. You know from slam to slam this level. Over the last. Few years. Sins and I do think now she's kind of ready to take rapa moment and. Well and make sure at least at the very least she gets to the final. The final from this path yeah, I think she's being. There there wasn't jae for quite a while. Now she's consistent being up in the top ten five. She won the WTO for a couple of years by say, no, she's the talent is just the case of actually putting up critical performance together old on that day. When it matters and Yes. I know spiff insight perhaps into teams with do back and listen to our apart with Andy. I think we did a few months ago now. Because it'd be listened to and it's all of the quarters perhaps. To dominate team they joe, what's she make of his his his match against French World Guard to air store little pun there wasn't it little pattern between David. Lieber. Yes This was fantastic to what on. On Sunday afternoon on the TV lying lying on my safe I'm not gonNA lie was a little bit was a little bit hungrier but. It was it was a fantastic absolutely gripping match for me. It was I mean personally for me was match the match of the tournament so far. I, think it had everything and team of came through. It was looking at one stage going to be really comfortable victory for them. He went two sets up six full six full but guests on Hadi. Forever ideas pulled the third and fourth set back before team came through in the fifth six three off three thousand and thirteen minutes. But really, it was just a kind of a just fantastic case really of player who's in his in his pump at the moment. And he's coming is coming through the through the drawer in team but presented with his first real challenge and you know it wasn't challenge that really came out nowhere because you'd think USA champion dominate team two sets up on clay core. The French Open really should be kind of closing an out but I mean. What talent gasoline as. I, think you not is his press conference. Okay. About his specifically gasoline's dropshots were from another planet and. You know that that was particularly for be cut the television that was the that was really the shot that caught my eye and I was sort of wearing fatigues in the sense that you know if he doesn't figure out a way to nullify this dropshot, then you we could have been left with not only Simona halep helper dominic team out as well. Yeah this was I think yes. Safe all the best batch of the tournament there had been laughing at the TV. Every got stolen they pulled off another one of these drop shows I couldn't believe it. Squealing ED TV as well and It was such a shame that right at the end in a couple days drop shots a day failed and Anita gas on just kind of took his took his them off the ball and t managed to get the job done I. Mean I was not expecting after the first sets the. Go five I thought okay. Team stay sets up what normally happens now is the opponent would just kind of fade away. You get tied up the ghost a bit but I'm say impressive Ugo guests on because you know he didn't give up on he he kept going and he kept going with his saw strange game plan and and it paid off and you know that full set he was. Four one up very quickly offs taking the third and and then suddenly we were interface that it was like war is a half. Now I mean I always thought team which. Would would do it because obviously the experience And everything I didn't think that Gaston would actually win a pulse made. Date. Data. Wow. A I was calling expecting. What happened to kind of happen eventually but it was such. An incredible match really wasn't expecting it to be that place at the end and it was very enjoyable. Watch have to say really enjoyed it and I think what was interesting I think what was kind of getting into my head? Those watching as a final on the SOFA was. When when is all of what's happened in the last year two three weeks or whatever going to catch up with Dominic team? Is it going to catch up to him? You know at some point? From now to the end of the tournament, because it felt like during that particularly in that full set I, think it did catch up to him and always kind of wondering. Is. Dominic team tired is he just exhausted from all the efforts he's had to put in. The USA at the French Open is it who catching up to him at this very moment and gasoline was gonna take it volunteers you'll fit but credit me see came through. And kind of reset and one one that fifth set. But I do think there's now going to be that question going forward of. How much how much did don't make team have left the tag kids. Is a question you won't be asked with. Diego Schwartzman. At. The other side of the day. It is it is called FIDO. Every Schlossberg come through. You know very play hasn't dropped a set yet and he won against Lorenza Sinaga in the fourth round and she wants to be paying perhaps the best tennis of the moment you know he just reached the the rame final beat Raffarin reach that and he's he's here he is in the quarterfinals against team and I mean a lot of people. Joe a saying that she schwartzman's go. You know a real road John's getting team I. Think Jim Courier even said that he thinks Schwartzman is the favourite for that one. I think that's Slightly lever slight favor. I mean I think maybe if it went long and it went to five and team was feeling. Fatigue as a result of everything that's. Happened in New York and That maybe you know you could physically give Schwartzman the edge if it if it wasn't not fall, but I still would definitely's team is is the favourite I mean Today it's going to be a different level for Schwartzman isn't playing team over five sets compared to the likes of Sinaga is tricky one. It's You know you look at team. You know he's you. He's absolute physical specimen on on the tennis court and. I don't think I. Yeah I don't think fitness. Wise. That's an issue. I think is more of a mental fatigue mental mental fatigue exactly of of what's what's been going on and? The fact that is been such a quick turnaround different time zones. I mean is surely going to catch up to you at some point I mean we were kind of saying that about diabetic. Not USA. USA American Hall Cool. Streak. And we would decide it's going to catch up to some point but you you know that I think that now is this going to be the question and if there was one player I think who can exploit that it's Diego Schwartzman because as he said, he is in he is fantastic fool he's probably. You know he's beat. Rafa on your beat Raffarin on. On Clay and he dropped only thirty teams getting to the cool to finals. I mean he I think he was actually a little bit surprised how well he was kind of playing going into this tournament he wasn't expecting you know to do what he has done. Eat A he has looked he has looked very, very classy and he's been. He's presented with a couple of skins has sip so far, and now he's got the opportunity to go off to dominate team and you know I think. I see as ratified you're just hoping that he could even if he doesn't beat team, he certainly has the capacity to kind of almost kind of take his legs away if team wants to kind of guy. In the tournament. If we go the assumption that wrath is going to beat Yanic sin- then yeah. I, was just thinking, Oh, I've team and have Ryo ding-dong then. That will help pay them in December as but I mean we should just talk about the final is going to be reference Yanic Cena I mean Rafeh came through against Sebastian quarter very slaves was a bit of a route against the most notable thing is for that I think off the match rougher gave quarter assigned teasha shirt, which is quite sweet. Oversee code is a massive rats and and on twitter our soul, the core was asking fans to send him pictures of the two of them at the net which I thought was quite sweet. He's such a sleigh. This felt like football primary league side plates a League side, the seaside, and like I need to make the most of this opportunity. CHEF. With. A Baby I could. Make some money. But. I mean I, I, watched the match matches well yeah. My overriding feeling was I. Wanted whether. Korda showed rather to oversight too much respect. He was I think maybe he was a little bit starstruck as well because. Yeah it was. It was pretty one sided and I think you know I think the question for me for. Getting into the business end of the tournament is you know how how? Is He undercooked kind of getting into you know potentially a match with well, we've we've accent but then potentially with we've team because you know the the the I think the matches he's played so far the rankings of the players he's paid safer I think they've all been outside the top hundred Yonex Center? Yes. Is a great claycourt play I I didn't even think he's in the top seventy I think I was reading I mean. Do you get the feeling is the Dowell really. Ready and prepares. You, a US forget that he's. Twelve type champion But in this tournament and given the fact that you know he didn't play any tennis. pitted. On hot coal and you know he he he he went to overrun but it came. So again, Schwartzman in in Rome d think d think as a question mark over whether you know how prepared in the Dallas going into. Going into the air going in. The tournament. I think. So I mean I think I think Trivia he played in the third round I think he might have been seventy four something in the world but. For sure I do think that is beneficial to have been tested somewhat before you get to the latter stages because I think otherwise you can maybe. Face a bit of a slow perhaps from WWLTV Tabin the as and you're not quite prepared or. Ready to deal with that quite in this matter that you would if you'd already has become a couple of tests on re, it's about finding the balance isn't it I? Mean I know you can only play he he got a play. Date one Rafeh. I want him to have struggled against Clare's Day in the hundreds will say because I wouldn't bathe well, if he'd been kind of. Having to fight against those players but I think Senate will for sure be a tough test abnd say perhaps that will give rabbit of fine shooting that he might need I. Think Jose just to the team guests on match. Perhaps this will as she really helped aimed because. He's had a someone playing slightly unconventional against am ready taking him unawares and you know he's he he has already but I think actually that will. Will probably help him going into the latter stages potentially a but yes I. There have been instances where rougher has won the friendship and without dropping a set and when he's just. Say I, think it's it's kind of swings around about sometimes. But I mean let's just talk about sin because you know he came through again sashes verve in four sets eight acidified very very well. and very hasn't exactly been in in the best form of even in the US Open, he wasn't paying playing particularly well yet you managed to always win the thing. But obviously, the big talking point from that match was that Zara played whilst feeling in his words completely sick. You know he was seen on court having medical treatment the doctor set to go into the core they gave him like a nasal spray. He said he had been having a fever the day before he wasn't able to breathe A. Basically symptoms and yet he turned up and played his fourth round match. Look. Good for the Fred Sherry organizes it and In the press conference. With, have often he was it was not particularly happy. When when a journalist suggested that he might be? Positive and we should just say actually he did post on his instagram today that he has taken a test and it is negative a but at the same time that we're going to be questioned certainly around this match in terms of. Should've should've? Pan raised to the French Open organizers. Displaying symptoms. Or? Other. The other question is, should the French Open organizers? This is the big question should the French, open? Organizes. Should have had more rigorous testing in place or procedures in place to make sure that. Even, if play wasn't going handrails, they were able to, they were going to be able to kind of. Find them out because it much. If you're in a full round of a grand stab with potential shelter glory etcetera, are you really going to like? All, you really going to like hold your hand up say sorry I accomplished my boyfriend match because you know I'm potential under weather when you don't even know if it's you know you're going to be capable maybe just go to maybe you've just go to code and. I think that's definitely been a you know a lot of big can of worms opened up with this. With this match shouldn't. Yeah I it's interesting. Particularly I think around I mean. Physically around I, think the fever point you know if he's dispatching a high temperature because you know in my head, you know. We're not begin to. You know I went into work a couple of weeks ago in. The the temperature gun pointed at me giving in. To the office and I. If the French Open all doing that two players. Feels like very easy and practical thing to do and it sounds like the. Essentially doing it? Yeah I think they're not doing a I would have expected them to on it with everyone going onto the site eating fans journalists plays everyone. But because I know in America, they were doing the test I think when plays on the the boss, the transport to the to the site that would checking the temperature I think I know that those kind of forehead thermometers and not even the most accurate they give some indication, but it's not necessarily the best. Know it would at least stop players perhaps trying to go under the radar and get away with it. By going onto the site and hoping that, no, one would notice. So they had a temperature or didn't feel so good. If. They had these kinds of measures in place plays with think well, actually are there's no way. I'm GonNa go away with this. Go to come clean an apron up also I think yeah. Doing the tests every five days I think's very with Geeta half Walden basically like the day after his batch I think they you know he'd been sent remind boy the F.. F. T.. But really, he could have that test the day before his match You know could've thought test that day and got the results back quite quickly. You know they're lucky position where they can easily get a test if they will one and then he would have known wouldn't hey whether it was a positive or negative, and then you know if it was positive obviously, you'd hope you would have done the right thing and pulled out. But at least if it got the test back, it was negative before the match he. He wouldn't fat all this kind of. Hostility and the press conferences and on the questions from media need air and everyone alike and everyone judging he's he's lack of judgment I suppose for for what he actually did by coming onto the CY in potentially risking everyone that he came into contact with I mean going boy xanax in is cool. Will he had I mean you know if it was K. Sarah had been posted and she gave it to center and then sit it gives it to refer I. Mean You could like have a big chain of events a totally effected by this. Should abated also. Kind of a of. Critics out there know of observer of the opinion the. This is a guy who you know. We've already got saw it We all live damage. This was president light a few months ago and you know some of his behavious back then. Say would not kind of Didn't chime with the the current situation and again. Looking at this moment and saying, did you did you let anything from you know two three months ago? and. You know. For INS various corner. They'll say absolutely not because if he had learned something, he may he would have would have hand-raised. I I'm a bit more. I think I'm a bit more on the side of I. Think the French Open pro I feel like the French Open done more in terms of identity. You can rely I can necessarily rely on on plays in these situations where there's prize money at play Brian King points the show being a grand slam champion, a available I. Think you can rely on these guys to just kind of feel like it's a civic duty and do the honorable thing. To put a hand up and say. I think I think I'm displaying sentence I think that needs to be more rigor in terms of having. Procedures in place to make sure that you know regardless of you know the the person that everyone everyone is treated and everyone. You know. Everyone is in the same position and is. Make sure. We have a you know a safe tournament because at the moment it feels like. Tonight it feels like with this Grand Slam. Competitive USA. Bit more sort of. Having a bit more sort of utterings from. Players and. People on site in terms of. How? calculated. Secure. You know this, this Grand Slam is. Yeah, I mean, there were two positive tests some goal singles. But nothing unique from any other kind of no other players apart from these have apparently tested positive. But I mean, in a way, I'm surprised haven't been more because of the lack of measures in in place but at the same time, I take new necessarily yes they could've temperature checks. On site but I think I, no fear of actually had the fever during the match I. think he said it was. The night before the or the night before that So I. Could still have been. He people could still have come and not have a high temperature carrying. So as any say much the tournament can-do, you've got to rely as well an individual gt the same as like in a society now, like if I felt like I had symptoms and I had to go into work or you should not go into were key to the the advice is that you isola- until urine tested and found out the result so? I don't think he couldn't say is one all the it is a bit of both as an it, it's personal responsibility are needing structures in place to enable people to make the decision that is a safest for for wider society. But I mean I know that obviously, I can understand where it was coming from if he was sinking yes, it probably isn't covert. I didn't want to give up on potentially making it a grandson cooed final because I pulled out and it was just like a cold. That is going to go away in a day I can understand that rationale but I think that the live was gay or anew say his position as a top sportsmen. that he needed to have. About it and All of the you know he knew that he was going to get a lot of questions and I'm surprised that she he admitted it. So openly after the press conference I I personally, if I was I would have been like, yeah I didn't play well wasn't failing one hundred percent just feel quite tied. I wouldn't have gone said I. Call Breathe and I had a fever like in a way that to me is quite I do. Not. Think that therefore, there wouldn't be a big line of questioning if he's just going to re really open and honest then. Today. Surprising I mean this is what do you think about Sasha's Shitty should played this match. Dot. Should it be on the? On the French Open let us know better for now. We're GONNA. Take a quick outbreak and we're going to be back off towards to talk about all the action from today. 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Issue now, the inherited favorite from Saleh because they're all, they're all think a significant number of fans and the people in the press people in the media who would probably say you know Patrick vetiver is is looking is looking very good and you know even though she's not been the greatest kind of clay court player in the possum using this is I know you have second appearance in quarterfinal? Ever Ah at the French. Open. Nothing first twenty twelve. A law people saying that she is now she is now the favourite I mean she came through quite easily against Jiang hsi-wei six, two, six, four, one, hour, twenty, five minutes. I mean, what do you think I mean I feel like we're on a collision course for potentially. A cannon semi final. But do you think what would you think about Kavita? What did you think she stands kind of getting into the second week of the French Open. Well. She's Lower Ziegler next and have to say that Christmas the favourite for that one given. A format grandma she's a two-time select Sim champion and Reach final last year. So I mean, yes she's not being at this stage of girls for years but Her ability is is still that and have formed today was very impressive. Hairpin wasn't really anything ever going to particularly challenge. For just managed the Powell Haredi so you. Would expect. To come through against Zeke but I think. I think, yeah that that semi that we will kind of looking with. That would be with Kenan is the maybe the Perhaps, that will be the batch for the tournament riddick given the fact that they're the only to slam champions left in it but some. Yeah, I'd like to see Kavita win another slam I think. She was quite, very strong. Thanks Day because you know the horrendous knife attack a couple of years back and I, think it was three years ago the at road and where she came back from that I almost back so. I think it'd be back in at this stage in the last eight of the tournament hair. It's it does mean a lot to her and I think if she can kind of channel that that. I I wouldn't be surprised if she went and won the tournament Joe. Yeah she's always kind of bear isn't a dangerous player which puts it all together. It's interesting because we look at. Grand Slam record she's those two titles at Wimbledon and I think that's where you know see the British public fell in love with her but we don't really associate with being able to do it on a on a clay court and you look at. How qualities in terms of you? Now, she is a very powerful hitter from the baseline and you you. You know obviously that works very well on a on across court. but yeah, I. Think into the French Open on clay cool I was just wondering. How how how is that going to work because she really sort of a loopy. Heavy for. So apply she hit like a little bit more flat but I mean, she still has even these calls. She still has kind of the. She still has the power to hit clean winners I mean she hit twenty three. Against Changsha today. And Yeah I just think I just wonder if you know she's going to be able to just kind of blow away the competition with with that sort of that sort of play wherever she can whether she can keep I know she's going to have hodder opponents if down the line with potentially. Kevin Kennon in the in the semifinals Siegelman as well is going to be you know no slouch. So. Yeah it's. It's. It's still kind of I. Think there is danger that. I think. Looking at butterball feeder before the total dating, we were thinking the. Candid. Could be the loss to seats. The law seeds left it on in the bottom half of the draw but. Hey. That's that's where and you know this French Open has been unpredictable but convertible I think has shown so far that she's been A. She's been pretty solid and lift up. I mean she's lived up to her seating so far yeah. She hasn't come through with any major dramas and I think Joe is most natural SF space or the one that we would associate with she has won a few of the Klay Premiere Events Unai she's one Madrid Tom's thing. So I think especially with indoor play she's she's she quite likes that so I think necessarily this. Is. A, really fall score is going to be perhaps a massive issue I today I mean Zeke. Men today she came through against Paulo. DOSA. In straight-sets, she's off to that first round. Of It and the drama of the double bounds she's been making swift progress through and. Some fog still to lead that game. LITERALLY WITH PEOPLE ARE PAINTING OF DOOMSDAY scenario we've kind of like. Ziegler. Zeke. But there's always going to win the French Open. How she could live for the rest of our life knowing that she double bouts did that I rattled to get rich. How she lived with. Renault in that. Scenario just yet but. Hov Today Zeke decided to during her payments medical timeout. She went over to get a nice top of noodles or something. And then she decided that with a full eating eating a box of carbs and she said she, she was kind of a bit loan call. She wants to have a a sugar rush but she didn't really found see like on an open on she wants something really substantial. So she also. Get some some up and she just sat ain't as a say I love I love how you the script or the take out via physio. Is Not the. really interesting though because it's not something. We see. If I can remember. The. Incident the. Brought to my mind. Maybe for British fans, there's been Marcus Willis. A think a few years ago. I had a can of coke and a snickers bar on shaven. It gave me kind of flashbacks of that but I've never really seen like this was like A. A meal. Look a proper meal and I wanted like how does? Cow Does Not sit well what do you play like a ten dispatch because? Yeah, I was a bit a bit like who is that? Is that such a good idea you think? Still on your stomach Keno that. Maybe she has a really fast I gestured day or she just didn't think about she just wanted the cops. What would you? What would you water if you're if you're in a position and he had a physio and you wanted to put an order what would be your Go-to? Take. A professional athlete I suppose I should be and have like Ajello in today's of. Electrolyte Joe's, but I have to say you sculpted Marcus. Willis saying a snickers bar I probably have. To hang sticky. When I was younger officer I used to delight swimming or whatever I or Arado something. I'd always crave nowadays most milkshakes she get like, I. have as my like recovery drink when really I should've just had milk or whatever. But I was just like the chocolate as well. But yeah, I go for some chicken wings I. Won't face. Some spicy chicken wigs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was that was that was quite surprising. I know. Yeah. But DOSA was I think she was troubled by her back in that match? Yes. saw her Nicole flat-out kind of taking a medical timeout for it but some I mean convertible one. One matching at the US Open in two, thousand, fifteen, six, one, six, one, so. Again I don't. I'm not expecting too much of a surprise that feel like Kavita will come through that. Let's go onto the other team matches. One has taken place one has not taken place the one place today. Most French player Gloss French play in the women's drool. Fiona Farrow versus Kennan. of the United States and in Kenan came through that two, six, six, two, six, one. Yeah, it was I mean I watched the first Saturday night. She saw Pharaoh ferry is GonNa win this but can't in I think. That I mean I think she's got as much as she's a good tennis bath. Mentally I think she's she's superior to of her. Her opponents arrivals, and regardless of what situation she finds herself in. She's way she always seem to be able to kind of. Cruel herself out of a sticky situation. And I think she was able to do that and she just I, mean, she really just turned it in and gave ferry no chance in sets tune three I mean sixty, six hundred and it was it was quite a turnaround from that I set. Yeah, I was going to be much closer than that. Once. Pharaoh had taken that I set and Kenan of was a break off in the second I thought Oh real matching onset. But yeah, just kind of the more weight on the more it went away from Farrow and and Kenan. Yes. She she totally opther. Hey game off to the end of that first set and. Had got the early break and then ferry came back and wrote off in a six games on the troll and you know much to the delight of the of the home crowd. But said, yeah I think Kenan she's she cut it flies under the radar doesn't sheep because I think she has a very strong mental as she but it's a very quiet kind of fortitude. She has on the cool and you know I. Really respect that because she doesn't make a song and dance about anything she just kind of get some with it. Does she quite nice. Say. Yeah, I? mean. He wouldn't. It weighed the coach new. Coach they pictured. Sitting next to Feroz coach I. Think he moved. During the match and that was all sorts of conspiracy theories on like a February. Coach coaching from the sidelines in. Canon. Wanted to sit next to make sure it was happening. Lighting each other or it was like. Yeah. I took. I think he was able to do with that. I think the thing I think a lot of people university would integrates on was likely will literally sitting right next to each other which he gave was not a good look. For the French. Open. And I do think there is no I think there is a no rule emerging picture here in terms of. The French Open organizers and the tournament organizers maybe need to look you know the protocols they have in pastries ample because yeah I feel like we're getting it from different aspects from the players or wherever is from the this TV pictures. That was a that was a bit of a bizarre situation see. If I was ferries coach I would have been just on a passive aggressive. Shot shuffled seats long. After cannons dad liked to. Someone's on a sits on the train. opposite. You a mouse. I like. The, next courage now. But Yeah. I coach literally left as quick as possible. Wants the the the match was decided. Cannon yet goes onto the quarterfinals and will play on Ziebel or Daniel Collins that match was postponed due to bad weather from today. That a nice warm up in the right. Message be saying other these guys out she paid because. They what they want. They wound up in the rain they made them onto. Whilst, it was still raining. and. They did their warm-up I think both Utah call into a bit like. Is going on the heads to the ME's expressions on their faces and not like McEnroe. You cannot be serious sort of basically, and then they call us Ramos who was umpiring. He wasn't happy either an, and basically they just got to bags and went off before like. She's playing. because. It was still raining and I really dating a why they bought them out. It was just absolutely pointless I. Didn't he made that decision but. We've seen bad decision making from the the French. Even before to be fair with with the scheduling especially share so. I mean they'd be waiting around all day as well. Say it was it was bit bizarre but. We gave for straight doing exactly. What will look voter tomorrow morning instead. Yeah I mean that much just just for context I mean there was there was. Potentially an argument to put that match on under the reef. Under the Reef instead of out my verses chronic. Pasta because. The winner potentially of you bill would play three. Three matches back to back to back. So Yeah I. Think it was a difficult decision. I still think it was the right one. That's. Yeah. It's just shame they couldn't get it done today but Yeah. Let's quickly move onto the menstrual kind of running out time. Yes came through Curiel Demetrio today straight-sets six, three, seven, six, six, two, will face rebe love, which is a repeat of the. Hamburg final. which was all while it was last Sunday r-y-b-e-c-k through Malton Future Vich in four sets foot Chevik will be himself. I think he was in three of those sets. And managed managed to somehow lose I think a great credits every bad feeder I think has. Quite low actually philosophy seasons, and I think that this was a prime example of that. So I mean that much I think for me promises to that match promises a lot because the Hamburg final was unreal. Ding Dong, the best three I'm fully expecting surpassed rube left to be another Ding Dong by the best of five. Yes I think be quite nice one and I think Novak will be quite happy to to play the winner of that in the semi final at very tired when perhaps. Yes I mean. Came through. I. When I saw that she was had a set point to you get the fourth set. So to go and five, but I I think managed to get that job done avoided going on and on and on I mean, let's not forget that both ripple of Ansett surpass they both could have got out in the first round. They were both tea sets down You know same query the match against five to in that third set. So they could both of being a home right now and they've managed to to. Actually, told away three since since as g I rounds and I, I'm sure that first round. Lead lag was with the Hamburg final and it does raise the question is a good idea to play the week before. Especially what he knew the final is going to be on the first day. Of the itself. I guess don't for them. Do you think it's paid for the quarter-finals? Look at the results it has done that by fit in the quarter-finals even say I I still think I'm the camp of I just don't think if I was a player. I just don't think it's a good idea to play the the week the week before maybe the you know the situation at the moment they felt like they needed to gross absolutely every single opportunity to get on a tennis court and that's why. They felt like they needed to pay Hamburg but. Yeah. I just think I. I still think it's the best idea in terms of. If you're playing a final not weekend, and then you're going straight into Grand Slam. Newer expecting to go deep. You know I know how fatigued. You might be kind of you know going. From one to the other when you might want a bit more time to settle. Sipho me I. Still I still a bit like I'd I know why Peop- top players play those told me the week before but at the same time base in the quarter-finals by. Doing well, and you know they should should give they should give fans a bit of a tree. that. I was just since HBO's facility no one in Strasbourg week before say she's she's Dot Orion say I mean I think it's a risk risk is neck. You know you risk an injury sort of last minute happening and Fatigue but it can can be helpful. especially I mean I guess she maybe these no new. What's good for them they knew that they need that kind of. Rana form going into going into a big event better. I mean, let's just look at what match was moved onto shut tree this evening. Big and stand out Meyer PCB has while not pretty comfortably I think it was sixty-seven, five sixty. So. It will be a rematch show of the fourth round of the. Pitch. Davis to. Say I mean PCP he's done well, the second. And a row where he's gone deep and eight he's exceeded I think he's eating his potential. He's he's making the most of things and here we probably just hoping for another. Surreal experience in the next look at it again. Lights and Twice but. My. Actually. Think lightning struck twice because Cape. We watched that batch should between sorry the between about jock rich and can catch it off today Novak Djokovic actually did hit a linesman but ob accidentally no, I grow invoked. which was really I was just like what it was of the odds. Of, your sort of movement. But I mean, yeah, I mean a just just a very quick fun on jock rich because again similar to Rafael Nadal. He's come through very easily so far straight-sets wins, and we were talking about ref on the Dow wherever he's going into, you know the back end of the French Open undercooked and you know I, I feel like with Nevada Jackovitch even though he's gone through the same re dropped any sets. A very similar path. I actually think he has been tested in Karen Catch today even though the school I six, four, six, three, six, three I don't actually think that did justice to to catch performance who? Thought put up a really good game and actually was I. Think he actually he was set to be honest but I mean, it just shows you how well Djokovic just playing. specifically, the with that drop shot get to May turn into A. Identify what the batch was. Absolutely. Incredible. But yeah, it's it's still feels like with. The the VICH procession. So of guy on button who knows maybe chronic vista will. Provide him a stunner, a stern test, maybe he'll be his boogeyman. But. Yes, I mean. I. I thoroughly expected him to come through as he did save felt like every time I. Go up ever a moment. Break backwell or he a whatever you know. Break came straight back and he was able to to consolidate anything say such is life. Joe Such is life I'm just before we wrap up on the doubles unfortunately Britain's Josue spray and at partner Rachi Ram route of the doubles lost in the quarterfinals against at. Pavitt. Suarez say that was A. Seven. Five in the third-set suburb ashamed Jamie. Murray is paying tomorrow in in his final against loss. Jay's champions Joe I. lost. Everything for them dating. You'll faves I'm. Joe, I have to say, just before we start recording I was watching Freddie Nelson in the. against. One of my favorites is playing with Tim. Gemini. Unfortunately. They had t matchpoints lost. In the lowest setting. Gossip say nothing. But. Alas such as such as life. And that actually the women's doubles. Talking about Severe Kenan I think she's still in the women's doubles with. Bethany Matic's ions and ecosphere intact was a also playing stand in the women's doubles say I think she? She's into the quarters So yeah, Lots Lot's going on with those. We've got lots of matches tomorrow recalled five singles much on. Philip shot trae because of the delayed. Collins. Your Ball match and then go yell the double school fine. Olsen. Every four, we could Ari well have that wrapping of a doubles and singles champion. 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The Tour Catch-Up: Melbourne Madness - All Draws Assessed; Packed crowds return in Adelaide; Halep's Top 10 consistency; Nadal's quarantine comments; Murray's Challenger assignment; Wawrinka's off-season to forget

The Passing Shot Tennis Podcast

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The Tour Catch-Up: Melbourne Madness - All Draws Assessed; Packed crowds return in Adelaide; Halep's Top 10 consistency; Nadal's quarantine comments; Murray's Challenger assignment; Wawrinka's off-season to forget

"Hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the show jolan kim. The tennis podcast caused by fans on today's episode hat to rina's return in adelaide bossy and set for tall return and andy murray plots his comeback in italy Kim the tennis is just around the corner. We've had this paused. The players have gone through their quarantine. Mostly successfully In in melbourne. And we've really gonna be coming into the thick of it in terms of the tennis. Six tournaments Over the next week is truly going to be. The bad disobey had all melbourne. And you know it's it's going to be absolutely fantastic. Dig a little dogs a absorbed celebration the fact that tennis is i think well in well and truly arrived. Now we can. Now i think just after all of the sort of your things that have happened over the last few weeks with as the pay is in quarantine With the kind of things going on around that now we can firmly focus on the tennis. Yeah i feel like we will go through january joss just about possibly the worst month of the year and we are being rewarded by these tennis tournaments kicking off and i think the season like properly getting underway and we had a couple of tournaments few weeks but this is like the real the real do now with a slap on the horizon. We we should note joe. I'm originally these tournaments. All being branded melbourne juan moping t etc but they do have name saguenay. I'd know names are inspired by some way in well in australia. But in victoria the state Specifically say we've got the gibson traifi the yerevan classic and the Grumpy and strafe. I think the three w if i'm correct and for the men we've got the murray reveal which sadly andy's st paul in his name and the great boom which i think is really nice name for tournament of see. Just the atp cop which doesn't quite guy with the flair phase but yeah. It's all happening really gonna well delve into the draws. Aren't we this episode. Yeah we've got a lot of we've got a draw. Four draws to to look at two in the the wto to in the eighty p as well the grandparents trophy is event for the of wti players who were unlucky and were in that sort of hard town that is going to be salting on wednesday. We don't have a draw for that yet. We do have a playlist which we are going to talk about. But we are going to start with the gibbs slant trophy just wanna call. This is all these things came and we'll get a. We'll get confusing so for me. The gipps land trophy is basically aka. The one where simona halep is the top seed. I i know that sounds catchy. That's the way i'm i'm envisaging and Let let's talk about that kind of draw because i mean generally speaking with these twa vents. It's generally quite equally split. Atp events. i feel it's. It's not as serb. Because obviously the is also going on. But i mean fourteen of the world's top twenty is going to be kind of participating in gibson trophy all the euro very valley. Classic announcer said get trophy. Simona halep is the top seed. She's had a bit of She you know. She had a bit of a returning adelaide at the exhibition against ashbal which was really fascinating and entertaining encounter but yet She's the top. See kinda going into this a total return and lest we forget the last time we saw her on a tennis court ball that matching in adelaide was really one of the shocks of the season last year with a who lost to In the french open. Yeah that was will getting on for four months ago which is crazy. How time has just flying by. But yeah it's it's half as much back. She's got a decent. I fe- rounds. I would say but she is. Actually ju to face egos tech in the quarterfinals. If the seeding goes to plan said i'll be a fascinating encounter. If they do meet again. You know seeing off to that. French open match but i mean it's it's early days is an issue is trying but baltin that expedition but you know it seemed indecent form but it. It's very difficult now. Isn't it like to first tournament. Al will everyone's going to be warm. They're going to be in for me. I i would say sample. Anchors is probably still the one to watch from that top half just purely because of the the kind of sensational streak she's been in Having claimed the title a couple of weeks back in abu dhabi on fifteen match streak. She's decent draw. I think she's gonna continue this week. I have to say. I think she might be my pick for the title. Yeah saba is definitely going to have a big say in who comes out of that top off so fill congress augie. It's hard to argue against. I'd love to see that rematch thing. All fans to be honest would love to see that rematch with field. Because that would be a really fascinating match up to see how how How bounces back from. Not you know that. French open short Tech can do not to gain. Another question is really kind of fascinating. I think with destroy the fact that is such a high quality field and Wanna approved that she you know she belongs and again she's got you know kind of a a decent decent enough route. But yeah i'm looking at that so soon hala Tech is one of the potential walkie matches to open up this this tournament. I'm just talking about how the patch today because she tweeted earlier. This week to say It was seven years ago She made her talk ten debut and three hundred forty six weeks later. She still and i think we you know. Obviously we'd know how that is a fantastic competitor on a tennis court. And i think we we actually forget how consistent. She's been in and how much of a mainstay she's been in the top ten. We've obviously had players who go through ups and downs all suffer. Injuries The take them out of competition but really kind of. It's it's amazing real kind of achievement. I think for the simona led to be able to say she's been in the top ten for for that long because that is i mean that is really impressive. Mean seven years. You know it it might be. There's no reason why she it can go to a a decade top dead and that would be that would really be something yeah she. She is a very reliable play like. She doesn't have sort of months where she goes has a terrible run of form. She's she is very consistent and oversee. That's paid dividends with seven straight years in the top ten and i suppose bit rougher he's had will also of being in the top ten and it's Mad when you think about it and perhaps as an overlooked achievement. Say yeah. I mean happy. Seven years or For being in the top ten and and talking of of of the top ten we've got a whole host of a full mytalk tenors. In this draw perhaps kit calls Could well could raise a few eyebrows. Could cause a few upsets early stage of the season. Everyone's kind of coming out of quarantine and we already know what to expect. Say if we look at the bottom of the draw the asaka heads up heads up that that bassem half spitzer lehner as well that the cheese as in that hav but you've also got j. contouring that literally what to expect from i she could play a panata para in the while enjoys first match which i know has been ever troublesome opponent in the past with jay came. Well i've watched lose. I watched a lose to her. I think the us. I was like front row full about. Yeah i i mean i hate that. That's not the case of curious to see see how joe kind of gets on Go by school Little bit more time. Gaspart's it'll be fascinating to see how she does. And i'm i'm sure she won't to kind of make a mark Leon and who knows who knows to kind see where that takes a. I mean looking just above her not so third quarter. I mean you've got selena you've got mertens and then you've got a whole host of play is hey i feel like if if been there and been buried tubs of the rag gigs but a kind of drifted back down a little bit like lane or so penco caroline garcia go petkevich as well. I mean that that quarter be quiet. It feels i feel like that. Yeah as you said there could be quite few upsets potentially lurking there. Yeah exactly and we've also got katie boater as well from partic- perspective in this sort of bottom section she opens against anna callans skyer which potentially winnable match second round could big go though which should be really interesting so Yeah looking out for boaters gauzy contour and all the other big names oviously loaded with with names. Such high quality failed so oversleep very excited for it the other. Wfan the yarra valley classic perhaps equally loaded. I mean it's really difficult today. Ashbal t in this world number-one severe kenan lost jay's australian apron. I'm being serena williams. He doesn't need an introduction commits murder. aretha push. I mean which one of these is is. The one to two guy fall i. It's really ridiculous to display. I mean i guess for me. The main thing is maybe how ashpalt he's going to perform because yes she fight the exhibition in adelaide. But we haven't seen her order court. Since last february. I know it was very complimentary about how he played in the at late event in in competitive much plays. It's a bit different. I think looking at balti- draw. She's a very decent a few rounds. So i'd expected to to get to say the semifinals fairly complete. Perhaps i'm not sure she should go all the way and win it. But i'm intrigued to see how she's gonna get. Yeah because she it. It felt like know the time when she was home like nick. Curiosity felt like she came in for some stick. Among some you know among some kind of members of the of the tennis community for how could she the one when you know. She's been off the court for so long so. I feel like she might be going into this. You know wanting You know having almost kind of a point to prove to be like. I am well number one for reason and this is why and i think she'll kind of look at kind of this in the are variety. Kasich is an opportunity to Her kind of status because she's not had a chance to you know she's not had to do that and the fact that she's going to do in front of a crowd it's going to be you know it's going to be a really fascinating to see how she takes that china and jog I think i think she will obviously be very happy. The new of course. We all love that they were going to be. You're going to be fans at the swimmers. And i think that could it could help Balti- i mean just kind of looking elsewhere in the draw. I mean as you said you'd go. Venus and serena williams serena williams i sweat whenever i look at serena williams in the draw on a print. Approach is always close by and it's the same case here because gay. We could get a could. Get a parole cavanna. Serena williams battle of the mums botch up earlier. On if if they kind of come through into the third round some kind of say to that because we hope to see that we had that match the usa. It didn't happen in the french open when the war keva becoming a curious to see see that much happen again like the match we had between them at. The usa would be intrigue. Because that was really intriguing. That encounter yeah. It's it's weird isn't it. How the sort of keep coming up with with plays together like that an interesting. I guess draws at mc aretha kenan. They could meet in the final which was a repeat of loss jays off the final. So i wouldn't know who to predict for that one that's just say let's say that much we've also got a carolina pushpa in in this drawing. She had a shocker in. Happy losing in around to A completely unknown player gasanova. So whether she's gonna you know just that's just a blip. She's going to pick you up. Pick up where she kind of usually does in the kind of pre runner events to the be an interesting one to look at and then from a british perspective. We've got francesca jones in this Draw she's she's qualified for the apron. She is aiden this level of tournament. I guess for the first time. And she's paying nadia puerto rosca french open semi-finalist so i mean i'm really intrigued to see how she's gonna get with that one because puerto good but i i would say is even with a shower for that one because you know i mean puerto rico. Yan gray got to the french open. Semi obviously deserves to be up there. But i wouldn't base out. Maybe i'm mad saying i wouldn't be surprised if fron jane's poodle upset wishful thinking. Nah i'm completely with you. I think she's gone a think she's got a chance there. I think it's i suddenly think it's winnable. Yes puerto rosca got to french open semifinal i feel at both those players will go onto that core. Feeling that they've got two point to prove. I feel like you know. Puerto rosca now is in this phase. You know we know her as this fred shape semifinalist is that is that all we're going to know is that all we're going to know about her basically and i feel like this is the moment where she's going to want to say now. Actually i'm much more than just so you know what moment in time and she'll kind of look at these tournaments in this year. Generally i think is an opportunity to kind of Herself from the tool but equally from a friend jones's perspective. She came through. She came through qualifying in the middle east for the you know the manger of the australian open her on the map with a lot purchase fans and again i think she will want to show you know what her tennis game is about. And she's a really exciting talent and not suit the kind of fantastic kind of game on the tennis court and she'll she'll want to show that i know this is a complete idiot experience for howard ob short you know. She's taking in absolute economy every moment as it comes and almost kind of savoring it. Just hope though. Yeah when she steps out on the court. She's she's ready to kind of she's overawed by the occasional overawed by playing someone who was in a seventy five of a grad slab losses and is able to kind of show showcase a game. So yeah i'm excited. I'm excited for that. I mean we've also got rave is in that two-time grand slam semi-finalist. Samsung does as well. I always love seeing stops as if the draws. She's she's such a. I think she's such a fan favorite shane. I'm kind of seeing i in front of australian crowds. It's always great is always kind of great to say so. Yeah i mean just looking again. As well i mean you've got i mean. Let's just quickly. I think about kenan because a thirty day put widow asserted pacelli appeared second-seed. Here game not really talking much about her. Do you. view on. we'll see kinda take on kenan tricky. Because i see a winning this event but i could also see her having another sort of scottish shocking result. She thinking out when she paid sakari recent and kind of lost ten geico. Y'all kinda thinking. They know what to expect. So i haven't. I haven't gotten for her. I think should be reason we show get to light quarters semis. But yeah i feel like though however i feel a whatever. She does absolutely couldn't for the for the slam. I think you can't go. T march on this country because it can be a good indicator full moore could be a complete retiring. I mean i'm just looking joe. Daniel collins is in the drawers. Well and she did quite. What are the. French can pull off a very decent performances. Say it's also go. I mean again. If you wish. We're talking about match up so i'm potentially excited for venus. Williams she comes through a first round matches arounca. Russ she could play. Petra kavita a game. That would be an absolutely fantastic encounter. Say yes. there's lots of lots of interesting ups. I think across both of the bay of the draws. Interestingly came there are players. Hey because obviously there are double doubles as well going on. There's a few players like kiki denisovich to playing both singles and doubles across the two events. Just to if it wasn't confusing enough already Yet there's a. There's a handful of players who are doing doubles at one event. And then ziggler say. I find that they ought shorts. I'm sure it's right. I think it was in. I think it was semaine to maintain the equality in of competitiveness across an integrity across breakthroughs but justify just a funny quick i. The situation is kind of thrown up. I'm sure that will be a quiz question. The you played two tournaments in the same week and then we'll over member that they were actually in the same place so quite extremists it sounded. Let's have a prediction session than joe who've four. Who's your money on. If you're betting man alden the gipson traifi aka the one that helps the even thank you. are the very please speaking. Yes how that. I've got fino between halibut and sumerian holiday coming out on top. I just think watching a little bit of of how bharti in adelaide think I think you know having that bright. 'cause done her weld of goods. She looked very good on the tennis court and is harder. It's hard to say no. It's hard to kind of aca really. And and even if she does come up against shown tat i think she's you know fantastic so mental mental struggling. She'll be able to kind of overcome that there's going to be so big challenges along the way but yeah i'm certainly backing four get slammed trophy. What about what about. yeah. I think. I think how does pastry onto the edge. But i thought she golden for someone ker see win so i think will be taliban the semi. I've gone for switzer dana as my fine list as well. But i think it's just going to go with her. She's in she's in the form. A fifteen match winning streak. I think she's going to extend that. Say i think so. You don't think the streak is going to end in blank. Is going to be on a cd to streak. Just wait. she's i think i've I think i think i've had all feel is going to ruin the streak going to break the even this this this but that's less weight and say let's let's quickly touch on the on yarra valley then who've you he says you'll you'll find this champion right. Well i've gone for check. check final. Push again mr kavita ver- at i've gone for fishkhabur to win. I think that performance and abu dhabi was just a blip and risk of Normally wins brisbane. Before the she's wanda v times. I feel like she's gonna be in normal pre slime victory made but i think the the apple inc all very well at the australian open itself swell by if you go for the yarra valley Go completely different. I have gone for serena williams versus bean mcgrew. In the fino with serena williams coming through. I just think again i liked what i saw in adelaide and yeah i think i think time will have done serena kind of a weld gate and i'm just i'm just. I'm just expecting her. At some point you can come back in so blitz blitzed the competition and i feel like on a hardcore got sommes likely place. It's going to happen. For the serena of serena williams. Yeah but we do have we do have another. Wti happening starting on wednesday. The grampian trophy as this is the one for players who are who've been in hall at eighteen so again. The is on monday but i included have not from from point of view. But i mean just looking at the playlist came for the the this disadvant- oversee. It's it's smaller but it definitely feels like it's got a higher higher concentration of quality just looking at the field. You've got on rescue azarenka. Sakari who i feel is one of the most infant players at the maimon. Jennifer brady angelique kerber. This tournament me is going to be going to have some real sort of you know really so goot interesting. Matchups straight from the straight from the get go given the strength of the player. Yeah i think you know. Saccharine embraced good. full navy. dhabi oversea. I think in terms of who. I'm most intrigued in saying i'm really intrigued. See how undress skews going to like on attended school saying she's been out for so long and also as a rancor bench which you know we know on on day these players absolutely unplayable sometime say gay. It's it's really fool this one and we have a draw yet but just from the entry list. We know it's going to be a almost just as fascinating as the other. Say grumpy and trae fee we will be covering all next. Catch up all the kind of results from that one but yeah Address gave big very much. I think that'd be a big interest in seeing how she She is when she steps back dot. She's not played a match since i think the. Wj finals in october. Twenty nineteen which is great undemocratic. Yeah yeah yeah. He's a long time to be offer. Be off ten score and my my how much practice sessions is dr know fitness. Or whatever you know that econ- rat piquet that's all feeding as you step out onto into wti level tournament a tennis call and yeah. I think that's so interesting because we oversee no her taliban But i if i'm being really honest i could see how winning it but i could also see her her retiring i in that situation. I feel where the where we've on rescue so we'll wait. We'll wait and say let's let's move on to the atp events We've the cup. Starting i think on tuesday which is kind of the big guns aweso the the two events on the atp side to fifties the that draws are not as strong with as we were kind of top players like novak djokovic in k- kind of playing in the atp cup but let's look at both of the let's start with the murray river open stanford rinker top seed and then you've got greek dimitrov the second seed in the bottom off just talking about submarine co. because it came out this we actually that he had tested positive for coronavirus over christmas and effectively said they completely in his words completely lost my off-season works so it sounds like he potentially might be coming. In a little bit undercooked into Into melbourne which you know it'll be interesting to see how that of impacts him on a tennis court whether that makes them more prone to an upset. That's an interesting interesting for it to come out now and not come out at the time it will be interesting. See how we how we How he says he. I think we can expect too much. Because from what. I from the gist of what he was saying that he did. She have like fairly like he did feel fairly unwell and was pretty tied. And that's been going on for quite a few weeks and having some symptoms. And i wouldn't expect too much as a as a result which is a shame because we will have to. Staten especially at the i. Like we know he's see former champion. So yeah i don't expect too much But we'll say we've also go carrio sydney event. You know who also hasn't played since. I guess this time last year He's obviously being quite active on twitter. But he's been saying that he feels completely mentally refreshed and ready to go again. So perhaps this whole australia's auto changes attitude in such a way that encore. He's going to be a different beast entirely. He could interestingly face better much in the second round came. I feel like even though he's mentally refreshed he might. He might be a change man if there is a moment if there is one match i feel that that could go completely out. The window is gets but it also that would be a that. could be absolutely. It could be a car crash. It could be entertaining identity now what you could expect for it if it does happen. I'm sort praying. It does happen to be honest. Because i just think it would just be well. We'll say about that but some interesting. We've also got to nasi coconut in angel. For the first time it. I think not protected rankings. It's really nice to see him back because he's had such terrible struggles with injury and we've got felix. Oj in that. Is he going to get to all the fine and twin. I've been casper roots in. Say it's a very interesting failed despite the becomes not being there British perspective for dot com and dan evans. In this event. Donovan is the eighth seed. So he'd be scheduled to meet courage. I think in the quarters So i think don get could be could be on a good week possibly nori as well. I mean the dwelling endowed is of course with some good form. At the moment. I think life of these players will can looking at his show thinking yet. They've got an opportunity here as well as uganda. Who really stylish player on the court. And i'm also kind of curious to see how he does he's the he's the seventh seed but yeah it's again is sort of the saw few interesting ups say dimitrov as well should not really have really show about. He could easy go in. I think win the tournament and also. I've just finally in this round. One matchups got current in mutate against frances tiafoe. Which i think could be really really interesting match to watch Given you know given the given the give mutates full last season at the french open t.f os while always kind of Entertaining watch on the on the tennis again. Not kind of cute matchups. Great road apron again. We've got kind of a a a to fifty so ask field david. Goffin is the top seed. But really i think this top half came. I think it's all about sheba. I mean he was. He won delray and i just think i think he's the man to be in. That told me generally burqas. Yeah i suppose inform. I have to say they might. I was drawn to yanks in a in the draw. He's the aussie eat. He's been training with raffarin. Outlaid you go to the exhibition. Say i'd quite like to see him doing doing well in the bed. I will say think tennis sanguine might have a good week because he seems to really like playing at the australian open. So i'm thinking these cool. See him his game very well. Call us out alcaraz as well as potentially order for a match with david go fan in the second round. Say you know young up and coming spaniards say looking to see what he's going to be doing and then one of my favorites. Joe salvatori carusi as japan enjoy. It won't cost you as an italian fair. Also i had my own vasic pospisil fairly decent end to las jay did did a at the. Us apron and event was it. The safina open. I think he got to the final. Yes i feel like he could be in the show of just fuel i. It's going to be fairly open event. I think i feel like yeah. This is very apron. i also love. We call a kevin anderson feliciano lopez in the first round. Which gave who. I'll have is. That feels a very open draw. I think yanic center is the big talking because we know he's nineteen years old on the. Atp tour is tweeting. These six nineteen years old not automated tools. I feel like he's he is the one to watch. Yeah don for me. Yeah he cashes is definitely for me the the danger man a just just quickly actually talk about carrying cash because he is the number two seed but i mean again i feel like he's point in his career where i think this year is going to be quite pivotal fame. Ready because you know he was. He was top ten think he reached a career high of a in the world. And now he's you know he's down. I think twenty in the world and it feels like this season is going be a big season for him in terms of all. You're going to be not all you're to be in that chasing or you're gonna be living up to the. I think you know the height those kind of installed on him even a few years ago. Now I think it'll be interesting to see. How does this season in terms of whether he can get back to solve that level he was he was at before. Yeah i feel like i. I'd completely forgotten about hatchet of surprised that she what i saw that he was down. Twenty in the world say yeah. We'll say he just. He just faded in t. up of obscurity. I think he needs to kind of get of imf back into his game. I think yeah who you going full. Then joe let's make some awful prediction thankful for the murray river ipad. Which is the west is the top. Say yes so a. Yeah i have gone in my final. I'm going to go four nick. Caritas versus felix. Elliot see and then in classic asja seem fashion. He's gonna lose in the final. And i think nick curious is going to win. I think i just think nick is one of those players he regardless of how much time he's he's taken out. His talent is so great that if he just steps on a call and you know his service firing he can he can just go through a competition with relative ease. I'm kind of going. I'm sure i i think we. I think we're gonna law about nick this week because we've not not seen him a lot. Were seen him a lot on on twitter but not seen on a tennis court. And i'm interested to see how his mindset is when he is when he is out there What about what about ye. Yeah i've gotten sought eight different. I'll have to say. I've golden for a tater. Fritz ugo bath final Why with us taylor for it. But i felt like edged. So he's one of those players is going to be like reasonably. Well get your final. I was just gonna say. Fritz versus bad. That does feel like a two fifty final exciting. So you can post bezos sanguine. I've gone. I've gone in that tool cash. Cinna with her cash winning big fan of cash. Think he he's. He moves great for big guy. I think he's going to be one of a danger players. I think in the australian one of these dangers pays you might get. The full frowned even quarter-final think he's very very good very very solid on a hardcore. Yeah conc- him doing making some making some waves in melbourne. So we'll have wait and see but We're gonna take a quick break now You can join us in the second half where we're going to be looking and talking about the exhibition in adelaide as well as nut house latest comments and andy murray plotting his return in europe. Thank anywhere This is the policy. Your joined by joel. Kim and we're going to be doing another passing short quiz that you've been looking forward to this part of the show because earlier in the week on the quiz show masa mind. That was a big raffled. Dowell fahd he well. He had his whole round of raff on the dow questions. Now we call. We're not gonna put all of them in this political causes quite a few of them but we are going to be putting them at the end of the show so any any rafael any list. Is you want to test that. In dowell knowledge came is going to quiz me on all of the questions that came up to see to see how i say. If you listen pasta the end of the episode you can hear it. In the meantime we do still have a quick question and it is actually going to involve me quizzing. You came on simona hallowed. We spoke earlier about somehow being in the top tatton consistently for the last seven years. So my question for you is when she first entered the top tatton which was the twenty seventh of january twenty fourteen. Can you name me the other nine players who were in that top ten. Oh that's that's a very good question. Okay and serena williams yep number one angelique kerber yes number. Nine victoria azarenka yes. Number two am petric vista. Yes number six. I wanna say maria sharapova but was she already was when she was maybe on headband. Maria sharapova correct show is ranked number five in quite well. Hey donald genuine which venus sabine. Nothing is probably wouldn't have goldfish Twenty fourteen. Oh my lord. I caught mic tennis players to achieve. You got all of the say big names the the the names all obviously that favors players that the harder to get ones. I think there'll be some russian or another czech player. Perhaps would push have been in there by this point. Nope advance scar. Yes yes number. Four nasca ratko wozniacki. I i think there's one two three four four three or four left another american play at night so i was looking for not gnarly alina No lease first. Time is no awesome. Surname is lee. These lino anyway i did. He mean okay. Lena irani oh would support for being there and lay in a yankee of it. Yeah okay yeah Did you say patrick evita. I think i did. Yeah okay. well that everyone else. Okay rancor lena. Van scott sharp paver kavita irani yankovitch vich kaaba and smoke fatty. While i'm quiz down need a cup of tea right. We've got question. They joe a which has come in. So yeah this is a really cool question today This is from jonathan. He sent in Following naomi osaka investing in a women's football team north carolina courage. If you're rich and had a big pot of money. What professional sports team outside of tennis would you invest in. and why. that's the rainy could question. Oh us quick. Did you see this do sore yet. Because because the soccer yeah has invested in like a top flight. So women's professional team in america So you know oversee. She's if she's like the highest paid sports women. I think well that may say she'll money to to spend. But yeah. If if if all i was in similar situation the tame i would invest in have local came vassallo clay in football team wicked wonders and the reason for that as we're not we're not doing great at the moment we're in the in the championship. Were in the league. Below the premiership in england and wales lost. I'm we lost by a good distance will actually today to brentford. Seventy say all. I really really bad results. I feel that we need the money to buy some pretty good players. Take constellation show. But i didn't actually realize wickham in thought you were in the conference out maybe will be. We probably limi-. Oh gosh well. That's that's admiral helping support your legal entity. I'd take ready leah michael. Football teams aren't really anything to for me to write home about. Perhaps but i really think for this. And i i was thinking. Who do i support. He do. I like. I like the spanish football team by taking. They need my money not have abor. Real majorca perhaps Used to work right next to the stadium. Afc wimbledon today old. I was thinking other sports like let's get away from football. Maybe like british swimming lima big swimming fan. When it comes to the olympics. I may be support off guys in the ongoing. I did i. This is very tricky one. I hadn't yeah never had to think about four. Say good question. Let's get back to the tennis. Let's talk adelaide. We've mentioned it a bit earlier. The exhibition a day at the drive. I have to say joe when. I kind of wake up and saw kind of stuff on twitter. That was going on from from adelaide. The kind of results. I saw what show of all the crowd in the stadium. And i was actually quite so i. Don't i felt like had quite an emotional reaction to it because it was just say of surreal see like people and fans and and not needing to distance all sort of cramped in the old days and it just i you know it just kind of omay sent shivers down my spine a bit because it's just it felt so wrong but i know it's it's right able to see that it's it's fantastic for them. Anyone out in australia. They've done a site such a tough such restrictions to achieve Like zero likud transmission of the virus. And they deserve to be able to do this. But i just. I had quite a wade reaction to. I think i take a thought if you had thought as well jonah a continent what you mean because i think you say you could look at that photo in like we learned anything from this whole pandemic You know when either. We've got everyone to each other like many people wearing masks in the audience. But i think i. My my overriding sense was kind of a site. I think can affect the you know. I just i think you know with with this event. I think it showed how much i think the a packed arena can can bring to a tennis match and bring to the bring to the players He i think some definite. I think most to be on this thrive off playing in these sorts of capacity crowds whether that's an exhibition whether that's the total level. Tournament that grandson. Wherever is i think you know they feed off the energy and be robbed of that energy over the last. You know eight months or however long has been You know to have it. Back thing has been is probably quite rejuvenating foot for some of them. Because you know let's talk about some of the matches the went on because ecomog off to a funny stop because jock itch who Out of the crowd were expecting to see on the tennis. Cole was announced to pulled out of a day drive because of what was described as excessive blisters on his hand which was the first i two was the first i did have heard of et sub. Sort of you did to you. Does this make jovic out the australian open. It was that mean. But i don't think that level because he then decided to kind of come out for his is the second set against yanic sooner swapping back in for phillips crown yovich antiques. He said the reason he did it. Was you know. He saw capacity crowd. You felt you just had to be out then for me. It just shows. I think the you know the energy the you know. Having a crowd brings to the point the joke who are going to play and then he was like a so that crowd a salau involve they. Were just gonna to get out there. Yeah it's interesting. I just like the fact that he came on halfway through the match. I said she. Yeah i mean fair enough. I'm sure these probably are if they'd been really really worrisome for the probably wouldn't have come on But yeah i mean. I didn't think i wouldn't worry botch perhaps when they've at fans so yeah we had That going on we had rafeh playing dominic. Thiem rafeh won that one. Seven five six four concrete team into school lines but We also had three playing. A salsa Serena one on the That's at try break. I'm both defying hallett. Challenge one on the Match tiebreak so. Yeah i think the overriding kind of fame was the everyone was very much happy. The that was a big crowd and it was sort of annoys atmosphere. And you know. I went down fatty successfully which. I'm sure the organized. We're very pleased about as well. I'm an interesting. They rafeh was doing an interview with espn actually about Kind of the quarantine conditions and You know you've as well and everything that's been going on. All the controversies with the different types of quarantine the at late conditions versus the melbourne conditions. And the the hall coronate in melbourne conditions And i think he made some interesting points. I suppose Because they were sort of all seen him his perspective on you know perhaps the players Moaning about the adelaide conditions. Being in a better better than their conditions and he was kind of making the point that yes we do conditions than like ford in melbourne in melbourne. There's also differences between people someplace have better dreams and others So it's kind of like this one was like a scale of privilege and perhaps those players. They're all complaining about the guys in adelaide. They baby needs. Check their own privilege and think about she. There are some who even worse off than that Of a complaining about the ones who were doing west having west conditions in there and that just thinking about he's better off than them but also think about as a a worse off the knees kind of put it into a wider perspective which was quite interesting because even like for us today. We're going through lockdown. And maybe we might look people in australia saying like oh lucky a scout about their business. But it's like the people of them what we're going through in london. Say you can always. I guess compared both above and below three without negating anyone's either. He's not trying to think he was trying to negate the fact that people were complaining. I think people will still have a valid reason to complain about the adelaide. Corentin conditions being better. But i guess it's just there's a way is going to be people who are better and worse off at it. It doesn't make it right. Yes trick active. It's just feels like it's the fact of the you know the rats and it was quite an interesting insight because he also this djokovic sort of suggestions to tennis australia with the kind of you know not head on but he kind of long lines of some need to make public all these things they do for others. Some of us do it in a more private way without having to to publicize any everything. I'm so you know. Of course the media. We're kind of talking about this. Khorasan of novak djokovic. But to be honest i think for me. Just kinda shows plays out there just like to go. They just various played lease speaking just like to go about doing the same thing in different ways and i think you know when we look back. On the i think the kind of the legacy of nadal and djokovic. I think jovic i feel is definitely more of outward expressive person in terms of his actions whereas nadal is i think a little bit more discreet they might be you know helping the same cause but just kind of going about it in a different way so i think it was kind of interesting also to to kind of to hear that. Come from the out because he knows normally get embroiled in these sorts of issues so was kind of interesting to see him kind of talk about that. Yeah i mean some people always shout louder than others their objectives might be the same. But they'll just out in different ways and we will have our own way of of working and and communicating so. I think has never been this person took on if publicly. Try and like stir and thing either so like that's where he's coming from. It's quite an interesting interesting interview We would saying what we. I think last week or two weeks before. The we hadn't really heard from rougher on this issue. Say you know we kind of go. His t pence worth but just before we finish up joe. We've had an announcement. I think today. about the stray nathan. And how many fans okay to be allowed in to the tournament. I think it's going to be about thirty thousand people day And then for the last five days we twenty five thousand people per day that's about fifty percent of the usual amount So the aca quite a drastic reduction from normal however wrote labor arena from the quarterfinals. Onwards will have twelve and a half thousand people Which is around eighty percent of the norm so that kind of focusing i guess on on the bake arena for the latter stages to make sure it's as normal as As possible. I mean i feel like eighty percent. They might as forgave for one hundred percent. But it's just gonna be. Yeah it'd be interesting just saying people. Tennis compared to the zero crowds that we had the us apron shelby. It'd be interesting. I think to say. I think from the players you know whether this changes the atmosphere Because i feel the atmosphere will be different. I don't think it's going to be. The same is still could be a special atmosphere. But i might be special in a in a different way. I'll be interested to hear how the i think the players of just describe that feeding on court when you know they know the fans epa. It's not up. It's not going to be completely packed. Crowd by do we as we still have that special that special that special feeling that we kind of associate with you know going to rub labor reno late matches for example but some. Yeah it's a. I think it is. I think is obviously very positive. You know if you think that we've how hot we're gonna have three ground sam's since this pandemic hit the french open. Usa australian open capacity increase. each time. you Get back to usa. There was absolutely no no public You know in attendance. It'll be interesting to see how you know whether we can kind of maintain this i think this upward curve as we go from grand slam to grindstone. Because you know if it still feels like we've seen the french open his but for example with wimbledon. It still feels like we're not gonna you know you're recording this from london. It doesn't fit me so it doesn't feel like we're gonna be a one hundred percent by the the summer and i think we have to look at these situations. I think in isolation of the country in the surroundings that they're in and you know still take it. I think by slam by stein will if sign a date necessarily think units is always going to end up the on a straight curve straight up. I think it could be up and down. I think you over this season. Well at the moment australia would be the only place and new zealand that could host fans i would imagine. I mean there might be like minimal people who moved him. But i really didn't expect that to be many. Which is very sad to say but my motto is expect little and be today is pleased when things go right for ones. Maybe mystic isn't it. But hey a couple of optimism and pessimism. Whatever couple of nights stories to end on we had call a suarez. Navarro kind of coming onto the media. Say that she's doing really well with cancer treatment She was diagnosed with hodgkin's lymphoma loss. Jaren well she was jewish retire but she sort of since since i guess undergoing illness and the treatment. She's kind of been thinking about coming back for the think the olympics perhaps paying the doubles with mussa or whoever but She's been doing a training. I think christmas. I think with zara irani and obviously you know trying to get out and stay fit and active while. She's having a treatment so that was really nice to see that she's doing well as well as well as can be expected in the she's perhaps thinking about you know having one last hurrah it should be really nice sendoff. I thank i just you know well food something is it's really big happens because yeah i think she deserves having a proper sendoff and nia what better you know. What will the pace in the olympics representing your country. Say it's great to hear that she's doing she's doing welsh. She'll the right to recovery. It sounds like and yet be great teaming up with mugosa For one one loss raw in In japan a story. We've kind of got to talk show and very quickly before we finish. Is andy. murray because you know it was a little bit demon grave. All-star recycled i'll catch up about debris because you tested positive for coronavirus wasn't able would say go out to australia on a charted fly than it kind of evolved into. He's going to have to miss the miss the australian open and we were. We were kinda thinking okay. What is he going to be doing next while we do now know. And he's entered into a challenger tournament in its late in biella Which is a said. I think it's. It's a hard indoor hard court. Tournament starts mid-february feb fifteen. Yeah he's he's obviously raring to get back out on the tennis court regardless of of weather is say he's going to have uh of i think low key introduction back onto the tool even though it's a small you know oversee a a taylor the atp toy it's still quite a competitive field. So i didn't think this is what we should read this book in the park. Fan demari because you know he's going to have to play some you know some quite tricky dame's on on that day sep quarter i think is definitely up there. You go lorenza mazzetti. who's lost. I'm over in colossians you'll under sappy lucas. Please on the player entry less. So i think that could be quite a it. Could be quite tricky. Bill be quite an interesting to see where murray's level is When he does come back yeah. I've just been googling biella. Like where in italy is this sort of very choice to the swiss border up in the north of between terrain and milan. Say yeah that we Apparently very important wool processing and text to dot com. You'll be taking is cool industry. How when he goes that Yeah it's his first appearance at challenges since rafa nadal apron in two thousand nineteen Yes oda yet. Quite exciting We'll see how he gets home but yeah it's good. He's he's jewish plays they can full participants to get into I think that brings us to as joe day. I'm just one thing pulsing show. Repoed is happening. So any suggestions for your favorite tea coffee or other hot fritsch keaton coming. We had some excellent suggestions in the week on twit us. Thank you very much for those We will be compiling the and adding them to aubrey boat. I think that brings us to a case for for another week show. I know and breathe really. We've talked about so much status in an hour will say yeah. I think that's that's the situation rid. It's going to be absolutely exactly absolute bed. Lib in melbourne i the positive guide audits call With six tournaments up the next week will say so. You really enjoy it. Of course remember to subscribe to the pasta to stay up to date on all of the latest goings on in australia and the tennis. And if you enjoy listening to us on apple podcasts make sure to leave us a rating and comment and you can follow us on social media. We are on twitter instagram on facebook at passing port. So do you drop message last night thoughts. We always love to hear from me. And if you'd like to email the show you can say passing short part at gmo dot com and we will be back next week with another catch up looking back on all of the events in melbourne and all of the tournaments for the fun of the fair. I think it's safe to say so. You can join us for that in the meantime if you wanna get your passing shot fix elsewhere. We uploaded a mid week. Pausing shop meets episode with us in conversation with steven blush talking about all things well team tennis. As part of his new book in bulls while teen tennis price bolts. Po coach progressive. Politics was really really interesting conversation. I thoroughly recommend if an hour to spare to listen to it because it was really interesting to hear about the formative years of while team tennis. We definitely learned something new. So yeah if you call some spats i've anywhere. Listen more of us Lookout for that episode Just gun scope. Acklin your Focusing platform of choice in you'll be able to find but some in the meantime. I hope you have enjoyed listening to this. Catch up and we will see you again. Satan really excited about this. Because there's a there's a quiz show on television cake mastermind where you have a specialist subject and one of the contestants week chose raff on the dow yes. I was very excited big. Thanks to tennis on telly. Forgiving me a heads up that it was going to be on because a sudden very excited And yeah. I'm gonna give you the questions because i already played along. I was shouting out the tally when the gentleman in question was during his question. So i'm going to give you a rough quest. Any refunds listing get ready because he didn't watch share at then hailed so joe and the long questions. I'm conscious of time. Say i'm gonna say them. Like fatty quickly. So just give a quick. I'm gonna pretend to be john humphrys. Who is the host. And he doesn't allow people to sort of you. Don't say just also make something up. Yeah well yet but in muslim touchy to paul anyway. Are you ready okay. I'm ready right number. One when doll started playing tennis at the age of four. He was coached by a family member him. He describes as the toughest of tennis coaches and usually the last person in the world to offer me consolation. What was his name uncle. Toady you will. Yes attempting to adult but okay. Dania number two at the age of eighteen nidal helped spain defeat the usa in the two thousand and four davis cup final by winning his singles match against an american player who was ranked second in the world at the time and had beaten him at that year's us open. Which player was it. I think it's andy roddick correct number. Three nidal's i eighty tool match against his great rival. Roger federer was in two thousand and four and he wanted in straight-sets at which tournament out so good question. I want to say rome. No it was miami. Yep number four in his autobiography a rougher my story an adult names of gopher as the closest i've come to an idol and says it's because of his clear-headedness his determination and his attitude sheet which gopher mike god jose maria or all the spanish for not dave passage but it was tiger woods hole. Spanish go for what. What is the name of needles hometown on the island of new yorker where he opened a tennis in two thousand sixteen pause. That's manacle what every time it comes out with. Wing office says manacle spain for his origin app. Anyway next one. I've lost count of number. This is but here we go. The phrase noodle uses his feeling on winning his first wimbledon tie to in two thousand and eight is also the title of the chapter in his autobiography which describes the decisive fifth set of the final. He could the feeling at invasion of the walked. Whom my god. I didn't get this juanita an invasion of the senses. No it's the purest joy on that one right next question. In twenty ten nidal appeared. Aisha carey's love interest in the music video for one of her songs. The title of the song. yes a. he'll stay lie. Could've worked but no it was gypsy. Oh on this next question. Which eighty s tournament didn't dr win. For the first time in two thousand and five he then successfully defended the title each year until twenty thirteen. When he lost to novak djokovic in the final thing that is no it's monte Yeah well right next. One nidal has a medical condition that affects one of the castle bones in his left foot. Which makes it prone to injury. He refers to it as my own unique version of the achilles heel the most vulnerable part of my body. What is the name of the bone. I passed the toss scaphoid by say did not know rafael. Mima became nidal's physical therapist early in his career won't nidal's nickname for him. This is very niche rough award. Yeah you don't a miracle worker knipe that would be a good one but now it's two tin like tinton. Entin last question nidal lost the french open for the first time in two thousand and nine when he was knocked out in the fourth round by player he went on to reach the final. Which player robin soderling correct. So i think you've got one Annoyed by that monte-carlo three right. Yeah we got three Three of eleven right. Say listen is how i think of well. Coffee of those. All quite niche rafeh fans. But i think the god he went on. Moss wanted to oversee for his source material given roughest oseberg Hence hence saudi ray question about the book chapter.

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Roland Garros Day 9 - Powerplays, rematches and whisky

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Roland Garros Day 9 - Powerplays, rematches and whisky

"Hi, this is Marion Bartoli Mats Wilander. This is Mary Carillo Rowing I'm letting you it. I'm Andy. Murray. This is Yannick Noah and you're listening to the PODCAST. Nine of the French Open is well, it's not yet done interested because as become to you at temples nine UK time tempos, ten labels, parents public or any booster Daniel Haute Meyer. Five, all in the second set that might how much having been moved from the season long Lincou because today was possibly an I don't say this lightly I realize it's quite statement but possibly the wettest day it's at Roland Garros and in London for that much to say, thank goodness for the Chatrier Relief and the central heating Shea Whitaker. I'm joined by David Law, a West Brom found that predicted Powell a producer would win today Matt Roberts Fulham Fan that predicted fearing a ferry between today a couple of leases. US. For this. I mean everything she said was. that. Do it don't honestly. Yeah. There's a low play I. I've taken the lay raids. If being a full-on Fan has taught me anything it child to lose so. It's come in very, very handy in these last few days because I just keep losing. At everything David meanwhile is hit the whiskey. Yeah. Actually got one whiskey. That I think given per show for this week and about three six and feeling fantastic and their insertive packaging that makes it look like urine samples. Yes that's become a little less appetizing. Yeah. My sister is a whiskey show. Has Twenty years. How cool is it ever? Sister owns a whiskey. It's called the we drown. Yeah and she sent me a little supply of. Little samples to taste Whiskey samples for the don't don't days of the predictions of crashed and burned. Mean Look I'm still riding high fifty points from it was a VM. dicky's joint favourite to win the title. We'll talk more about her later look ahead to her much tomorrow. Maybe even discuss what we think about. The fact that people are saying she's the favorite to win this tube issue be start with. Probably, the person who I think yes, I'm GonNa say this the person who I think probably is the favourite to win this title nuts Patrick. Evita the seven ct time. Wimbledon champion she beat Yangshuo. Today and there was a tiny tiny little at the end but basically she was just. In control throughout the match, the roof was closed. It was kind of ideal for her I had un-kyong commentary describe. Jiang, way as a passenger in the match, she was just responding to patch. Patrick who was doing. And it looked really routine like. Full a grand slam champion Patrick, Vitovich competing routine victory reach another Grand Slam semifinal. And then there was this outpouring of emotion from her in the moment of victory. It was really quite startling actually an. It it. showed, what it meant to her that wasn't just another Uh Grand Slam Kuta. final. Are Driving at the time. How did that manifest itself will she? Still was a close line call on much point. And I think it was inspected by the UNPA. Petra Nova short and that I think just click the line did did just clip the line was inspected by the umpire and even though she had a Really, healthy lead in the score was a certain she was serving five four. She looks so anxious and desperate for it to be in absolutely desperate. Just please let this be please. Let me have got there. And then when it was, she just looked she she was going to collapse in relief really and. She spoke. She spoke of too much in the press conference about why it was motion for her and she said this was the court where I made my comeback of the of the of the attack that that happened her in her home. She that happened to her in December. Twenty sixteen success and then two, thousand sixteen and then in May of twenty seventeen, which was Fosuna than anybody thought and she she still didn't have full sensation in her hand. She still had a big skull in May twenty seventeen she made her comeback on the shut trae court kind of with no expectation and an attitude of what I've got to start somewhere. And I it's. It's. It's all too easy I think for the Competitive Comeback Story to to fade a because she's already reached a grand slam final. It feels like we sort of told most of it already. But that doesn't mean it doesn't learn retailing and she were if she were actually to win this title. It would be one of the greatest sporting comebacks of all time. I think and it doesn't mean that doesn't still affect her a as you say just because it's been a few years and because. She's managed to order. Mike the Comeback Well, that's really cool. She's She is a real content. This I was just looking at the best French Open was two, thousand twelve when she reached the semi finals. One thing that interests me is is what happens with the weather conditions from here because from what Russell? Fuller. BBC cars from saying WHO's out there in a couple of days time they're expecting glorious sunshine. So that's going to be quite interesting. Isn't it just to say how that impacts things because she's been doing? So well with it being indoors and we can have a very different looking tournaments data. Yes. She hasn't lost a set so far and she's one of the. Few is who has absolutely no trouble hitting through this very slow heavy clay whatsoever and I was looking she's one quite a few titles on clay I think maybe five in total. mug On clashes don't think of her as a clay court player because she says, strong on other surfaces But I think she has to kind of make herself believe a little bit more that she can play on Clyde. The confidence is right right there with her when she steps on that surface, she kind of has to have the results to give her the confidence rather than starting with the confidence and getting the getting the results. It's a bit of a process for her unclear think but she seems to be in that place now and you know is one of only two players remaining in the drawer who knows knows what it's like to win a grand Santo. I graciously, she certainly has to be right towards the top of the list of favorites left in this tournament. It almost feels redundant word now favorite because I feel like if someone is a true favor, it should be fairly obvious that are the favorite but you can't really say that about anyone the moment. So I think she's sort of slightly more favored than most the people remaining in the drawer, but she doesn't really feel like favorite just because of how open it is and how many upsets that have been, but she's playing very well she's she's got more confidence than she had at the start of the week and Yeah it was it was such a poignant moment and I kind of went back to what you were saying the other day Katherine. About Amanda Anisimov going back to the place where she had this previous experience in an all the emotions that come with that and I just think I think it was really overwhelming for for her today because she thought when she made this combat that she probably never would reach these kind of stages again, just because as you said, she has reached an Australian Open final. Doesn't mean she doesn't think back to how she was feeling and that very moment on video chat trae and particularly being there all those emotions just came back and she said it's been a long ride and I. Think it would be a very popular outcome. If she wins the tournament, I think there would be an outpouring of goodwill from kind of everyone in the tennis tennis world. I mean there was an outpouring of goodwill from Jiang Sh- way the net off to quit just thrush to. They clearly I think they're pretty close. and. You know they are. Good eggs. Both of those to everybody likes them. Everybody speaks well about them and and his friends with them in the locker room and there was a lovely look between them just when they went to the net the just one of those looks where you just think. This is this is not such a bad place to be right now watching sport played in. Good. Spirit. Really, impressively. And having a result lineup and then David Worst Paulo Brazil lose. It. And actually, I don't feel about about it now that also matte food also lost to under ruble, which was the other one that I is considering so. I. Just got everything. Wrong sir. All right. But. Yeah. Lost to Laura Zygmunt to. Is just so impressive this fortnight because I don't. I never ever thought I would say her Grand Slam quarterfinal and look she's a really good I was thinking it was sort of. Business like plan you know she just gets business done and whoever gets in a way she's going to stop them out in the way that she can but she's got limitations and yet here she is just taking advantage of this weird situation and these draws on necessarily. Going the way everybody thinks the circumstances are playing a grand slam in October and some players just picking that up and say, I don't care I'm GonNa make the best of that and I noticed I was watching the other day when she was a think certainly a set and maybe maybe a break as well down against Yulia googlers country woman who's a much bigger hitter in a much more. Kind of celebrated player hyped player in Germany and yet zygmunt just. Stuck in salted around won the match and it was a very cursory racket tap and. I don't think I don't think zigmunds the most popular player in the locker room, but she's no she's no competitive Roy Zhang's who I but she's in the plumbing and last night and I think if she ever. Were going to reach Grand Slam quarterfinal perform this. Well in a Slam I. Think most people thought again that it would have come in that twenty seventeen French Open, which she entered I think having won Stuttgart on the clay, and then she suffered terrible knee injury in Nuremberg and I think it might have taken out for the whole season or something and it was it was really quite bad and kind of that was a chance. To see her. Sort of seize this opportunity. As you said, David is is very impressive. It was a slightly bizarre match. She took several deliveries of food during the manage Oh. Yeah and ate them with a with a fork, but was having a medical timeout because. She said that she. Recalls meal yeah. It was. Getting all sorts of COBB's delivered and talking into them and shed shed have been honor Bowl of Pad Thai. And a couple of cereal bows. And she collected. She lives the most of it from like a brown bag was Brooke courtside. Yeah it was like March like she. Saw something. And if either of these companies want to. Sponsor me cree up some if the disposable income that I'm spending on both of them though that would be great. But she did say the reason for doing it was that there's talk of some kind of stomach bug going around the pliers team was talking about German yesterday saying that he'd had some problems and she said that she couldn't eat in the morning she couldn't keep anything down and So she needed some kind of energy during the match. Her second winds during an injury time out. I. Love that. Power look off feel great on a meal. I'm going to run your rugged. Yeah it was. It was really weird. Sometimes, you get to see people getting like we'd looking fluids. Delivered to the cool but never like a pot noodle. Enjoyed the empire John Blom. Saying well, that was a little bit wasn't I've never seen that before in my many years of firing and. Zygmunt I thought maybe he was accusing her of doing something. That is against the rules and she said, no I. Just I just needed to eat if she if she did commit a an ethical misdemeanor against Christine Denisovich. In the second round then. At. least it's fair to say that it it wasn't for nothing she me. Kana justified doing that. Send, you could look at it that way. Then was he did that way? Okay then. Next onto the. Court was David. Stephanie Sits Pass and Grigor Dimitrov match that I think you commentated on pretty much pretty much in full straight-sets victory for fits surpassed one thrilling sets. But overall I did that one actually Because, I was trout but I'm commentated on that second set was just fantastic eleven nine tie-break By that time. Since the is already a setup and. Dimitrov just stayed with him and it was it was really interesting because a a number of. Thoughts came to me throughout that match and some of them a little bit sad really about about how Dimitrov Justice got passed by a little by these guys. We saw it against Tampa of the other week when he lost to him and. CIPA, planning, for, the first time and. The first thing I noticed was just the shift physical difference between the two of them stood side by side sits the patout above him. Just the way he towered above federal when they played in two, thousand, nine hundred and the Australian Open and he's got these coathanger shoulders and he's just you know he's just a big lad but and yet he can move as well. Generally speaking he just his his natural game, his natural rallying bowl was too powerful for for Dimitrov who could stay with him. If, he redlined it with Zach classicism. But only fee pushed the limits and that's that was the difference between them really in the course of the match overall I thought but the second set was brilliant. Dimitrov had a couple of set points I was commentating with Mars maclagan and he kept tone he'd be watching these rallies and running join them. Then Dimitrov would make some shots selection out of nowhere and miles just throws arms. Why if you going for that? And once in a while, they would come off a lot of the time. They would just these outrageous dropshots attempts where he's not just tried to play short backhand to bring opponents in east, literally tried to kill it dead and bouncing back over his own side of the net it so heavily spun and several of them hit the top of the net. Then there were several rallies where he set himself up with big bright point chance and a rallying bold go long and and it was just. It felt like a bit of a microcosm of his career because he was the highlight reel for a lot of the match and he lost in straight sets and. Sits a pass for the most part looked very, very good. Make Me Feel A. David felt a bit sensibleness, Catherine because we. Democrats will forever be linked to the show because when we started in two thousand twelve, he was the man we were High Pinup I. He was the most exciting first. Prediction. Yeah and I are saying Oh. Show one. I. Think was your best prediction no. Yeah. Mind you're right. You're right. I accept that and if anybody is in any doubt, just go to double bill of the worst tennis predictions ever tennis has predictions ever which are in the archive from a few months back but. I mean we were partially said tomorrow we we were part of. The problem that Dimitrov had in terms of building this hype. That he also bought into and people calling in baby fat and all this thing. And it's got everybody excited about him. Unfortunate that he just. Wasn't quite good enough. I. Don't I don't know how much more we could have done a basset really I think we we just slightly overestimated him. Blake. I mean. You could also say he came along kind of the wrong time. I think no. One has. The last eight years to go as they have done in terms of. Mainly fiction the doll. Carrying on and long jetty, and you'd have to say federal as well, and I don't know I just think if he was he was coming through now with this game kind of like sit surpass sit surpasses future seems so bright partly because of how good he is but partly because of the ages and the players who is just not. For sure. Not going to be in his way in five years time and lack of mental. Built up so much Scott Tissue so early. And actually the the other thing we were talking miles about was the fact that. What these three people have done has suddenly become normal to US seventy, nine, hundred and twenty grand slams back in. In two thousand. Pete Sampras Break Roy. Emerson's record of twelve. You know and that felt like a big deal I mean done in more than thirty years. And that stood for nine years. Pete Sampras's record fourteen. And then that's broken and it's been broken three times. So it's not really fair to compare. Some some of these plans to to those three and Dimitrov was playing with all of them at their peaks. We've. We've reviewed surpasses tennis performance. Could we have a little summary Matt if his post-match interview? Performance. And the exact levels of weird. Well. Have decided that the most difficult job at the French. Open. This year is being the translator of sits surpasses interviews. because. You know you'll just a perfectly normal question and he will take it in all sorts of CISA pass directions, and then you'll having to translate that back into fringe for the crowd who? To be honest, probably understood quite a lot of it anyway in English but they need to hear that again, they kind of insist. On doing the translation. He was asked about his I because he's got some kind of issue where in each match she seems to be getting an irritation in his left I certainly in the first match I know he took eyedrops I think he did again today maybe another match as well then he keeps rubbing it and he's just making it. Up as the man Oh. That's what happens for sure. Rugby Rise and all you can do is rubberized and you know you making it worse than you hate yourself and doctors is shouting ear and it's just so bad. Yeah. I'm quite impressed these managing to play. So well, with an eye irritation I would I would definitely not be able to play anywhere a normal level with an IRA attention and it seems quite bad. He doesn't know what's causing it at all. So that's slightly concerning. Really anxious on his behalf about the problem. and. So impressed the amine, even the most minor. Irrigation is debilitating ready even if it's not serious I'm. I'm mega impressed that he's doing this. But yeah, he's always always knew shoes. Used to be a trainer problem in every match, and now it's an eye problem in every much whereas Leander Paes which needed. Forgotten the shoes. Oh Yeah. So so sits pass was was was a little bit all in the post much into be. Enjoyed post-match press conference or whatever interview we did. The current Kraus wrote in The New York Times talking about how when he was a kid, he used to have a facebook page which he turned into kind of like A. Tennis. Reporting Service when he was eleven years old and he would follow all the results of federal Dow Jackovitch all of these guys and he would write up reports about them all and try to be really objective if he could even though he was a federal funds that are really tried to be, he says another, that's your your your job. You have to try to be really objective about these things and. and. She did the story about what it's like trying to interview tennis players virtually as opposed to in person and and just getting the players versions of events as to what it's like to be on the other end of and he was just he was just so interesting he's he's fascinated by journalism and. Reporting and asking questions, and he really is clearly thought about this very intensely. The. Parties did he? I mean, no did I. Not Judging I'm just ABS. pathologising. Remembered another whiskey. It's happening fakes to whiskeys law. We've never seen this before I've never met two skis law. I'm excited. See since a pass now plays Andrei Rubel if he was a Setina breakdown Martin Foot Church at one stage. In fact was seven, five, two down before winning the second set seven five and coming three to eventually win. In Four sets, all of which were were quite tight. I have to confess. I didn't see much of that much shows following it verified live schools it was run long Len and it was rain interrupted. But Rube live now faces sit to pass for the second time since this French Open started. Yes Day one in a different city and they'll meet again in the quarter-finals. Quite I'm quite impressed with both of them actually and I think. I. Really. It was really wondering whether playing in Hamburg would end up being a positive or negative for them and I think now they've both got to this quarterfinal match I. Think it's fair to conclude it. It was a positive because the winner will get through to the semis and that. Be. Certainly matching if not exceeding expectations of them at the start of the tournament and I think sits surpass just got so much confidence through winning the matches he did in Hamburg and rube has become. So matched tight there was an incredible stat in his press conference that was put to him by journalists that. His opponent including future vicks and his other opponents in this tournament, Sam Query and Kevin Anderson. They've served for the against him eight times collectively tournament, and only once they managed to serve out the set in those kind of key moments in the matches, rube levies, rising to them, and playing his best tennis in those moments and I think that was the story of the match today. It's future of because even the fourth set folks had three set points and didn't manage to take it and then Rube love ran away with it. So He's He's he's match tough partly because of all the matches, he's one just in January this year but also I think winning in in Hamburg having a lot of confidence. So Yeah. Just really impressive from both of them I think a good tournament for future victims as well. He's had some good wins and impressed he's he's a guy who's on my list of could be better why they not better kind of mistreats his name he's right there with stuff. And I think with him, it's he doesn't have fangs. He doesn't have a killer instinct. He's he's incredibly measured imbalanced on the cold but I I never see him go gears or really completely impose himself which is weird because he's a big strong guy. And I think rube level was actually the one kind of with the greater firepower in that match certain off the four hundred wing and Yeah, we'll see. Oversee one in Hamburg. Just sits passer for that match and I. Think. I think I think it could be a very good on Wednesday. I'm so impressed with Rube love that he's doing this I start because of being two sets in five to down a week ago in the first round and and still being here he just has an appetite for the sport that is right up there with the most. Of anybody I think we need to really significant injury very young. Didn't he had a what had a couple of I think Leg Injury and also had a stress fracture to his to his back. and. He said he went through a period of depression when he was sidelined from the sport and. It yeah. I. Know It's a cliche words in the twenty twenty particular but he does seem to have a perspective on this ball that is unusual for someone of his age I. Think he is among I think among his peers who you may or may not want to call the next Gen I. Think His perspective on the sport is probably one of one of the best. Actually He There was a moment where the TV that we were covering the other match time chatrier and and just at the end of the set they flashed over to to to bring an update of him. And it was the first moment in the entire six week run that I've seen anybody wearing that line of clothing that has made me do a double take think Oh my word that's drags e. Nine hundred ninety Andre Agassi just looking at him in his flashes of yellow and an all the all at design stuff that they've. That they've put together in order to. To pay tribute to the old Agassi outfits and which he helped co design and he just look I know facially doesn't look anything like him but just in terms of ice. Trust. Me Chant flashed up. The was wearing in the ways. Hair was the waves hitting the ball suddenly reminded me of Agassi back in one, thousand, nine, hundred. And and but at the same time, then then they showed his opponent and it looked like some buddies, kids has brought data to sports day. Because you I mean you couldn't believe that they are. Contemporaries have had different. They looked physically. I just I think rib love is really impressive and and I'll tell you what this match. Is, going to be so N- of shredding between these two because they both wanted so badly. GonNa be Amazing Yeah I'm really really up that much. I just. Yeah exactly. Exactly. They both wanted it possibly too much. Someone's going to end up in adult room crying so. You know what you just said about. Modern Foot Cevic. Obviously, not quite to the same extent but often. Today's match against Novak Jovic I I might be filing away Karen Hatching in a similar kind of category. A higher grade of. Within that category but. I don't think he has the fangs I think he. I think he much as I described Metairie Bertini couple of days ago I think his style of play is very, very good and I think you'll have moments I could be a solid possibly even a solid consistent, top ten player but. I think his style of plays a little bit out of date and I was frustrated with his. His lack of fangs today his you know what you described. Andrew. rebe love having six cents for the big moments in raising his level like hatching had the opposite. If that today because there were there opportunities for him that was joke of inches weakest performance this tournament safer. He was still very, very good. Jovic won in straight sets but. He just two little little bit rough around the edges joke of it. She was very red in the face I don't know whether that was to do with the reef being closed. And the the atmospheric conditions onto their. If there were opportunities for hatching off to the very least sneaker set. And I felt I felt a bit underwhelmed by hatching today being too harsh. That's very, very interesting. I have the same general impression of action of I think actually think he might have lost his fangs I think when he bursts through in that two thousand, eighteen second half of that season. That actually paid against the dollar that the US Open was extraordinary. Any really raised his game and the biggest moments in that match and then made you beat Djokovic to win in Paris didn't he and and I think even I I'm. I'm throwing you under the bus with me here I think both you and I in the latter stages twenty eighteen made very. Catching of predictions that have aged very very badly that point he ever really look really one May. As well, absolutely I've been generally a little bit underwhelmed for the last eighteen months. I suppose with him but I didn't get that sense today I must say I actually thought Djokovic played really well, today I thought this was kind of just as good as he's been playing this tournament and he was playing a better opponent I I thought his drop shot again was a little bit hit a mess he he certainly dumped a few in the net, but generally as a tactic just really worked winding actional political I think and just got him moving forward and I. Mean we talked about team. All those sprints to the net and I think action of like them even even less than team did. It's always a little bit frustrating when you get a bit of a challenge to the big three and they kind of put in the performance, the action of did today but it's just I don't know. There's just so much evidence from from years to suggest that maybe just isn't that much that they can always do about it. This is. A better job just better than action of and I just think just think he's able to take over in the biggest moments and he's got so much experience of winning matches like this and hacks none of has no experience of winning matches like this against him and. Just. Just kind of told when there was a chance Djokovic has that sixth sense of how? House raises level than I thought action of through Lord Adam started fighting hard in that third set or the break point couldn't convert. He's just not as good tennis. As Novak Djokovic I agree that the fangs element is probably the element that is missing and perhaps a little more variety in this game and Kinda why I was thinking about Magnus Norman the other day I think he's got a good good coaching relationship with with Rosengren but I don't know there's there is something missing from and it didn't leave me that frustrated today. But generally in terms of his his career trajectory I I am. With you I I, I would feel similarly to to how you feel that generally over the last two years, I've been a little underwhelmed by hatch enough based on those moments that we have seen where you just think wow, he has really got something and yet I think he often come across to me as a little bit to content to be where he is a little bit too placid because he's a massive guy who just? Feels like he could just take you out with one punch if if you really got him angry. But doesn't get angry. It seems seems seems like a lovely bloke actually and almost a bit too nice sometimes, and actually I think Rosengren for this match, and for this period is doing something a little similar to what he did with Edmund. Got Him going today he got him to throw what he got a which. I thought Jackovitch was brilliant today personally I think he's overdue in his dropshots. Now I think and miles made a very interesting point. The he said he thinks he's got to be careful with it because he could end up almost just subconsciously. Always react always sort of reverting to the dropshot bailing out of rallies if he's not carefully could almost just instinctively start doing it when he doesn't even really think it's a good idea. And we kept tally. Today in our contracts and a to how many play he played well over thirty dropshots in a three-set match Jackovitch did today now look you won in straight sets and like I say I think he's timing is absolutely there I think he's Either this is the best tennis overall this this week and he hasn't played that many good players. Today is the best and I think he was probably. Egg because hatchimal was pushing him but he was still too good for him. I. Think this is the best he's played since one thousand, nine, hundred Australian Open so far. I don't think he played this well at the Australian Open this year for instance I think he he fought his way through he fought his way through in Rome. I feel like now he is measuring the ball and it's just pigging off the strings. I don't think of him as a power player but when he's time in the bowl this, the bull just does something off his forehand. Even. Even catching over struggling to. And it's looking very much like the next opponent four never jock vitual A. KARANJA STA who leads to sets and four love against any mind now. On the Philip. Shut trae court which. Of course is is a rematch of the much in which Novak Djokovic defaulted in the fourth round. If the US Open a few weeks ago and I'm sure we'll be made of that. I don't really see that. Is, significant. A tool I think. The, who the opponent was in incident was not significant to the incident. That's all you know who knows how it features in. Mind I'm sure he's going to play it down. I would be surprised if it were a factor in the match personally. Today's the ball ricocheted off his racket and hit a line judge in the face total total accident total freak incident but I mean the. The parallels the IRA, how the coincidence that that would happen in the very next. Grand Slam now compete totally different situation. It wasn't him who made that ball do it but it happened. Unfortunate allege was fine and everything carried on but clearly made him think and feel. Even though it was not his fault in the slightest. Little could about it and self conscious because he kept each kind of talked about it probably more than needed to, and now he's playing public arena bus. I mean I would be interested to know whether just in his mind whether he's able to just put that out of his mind no I would have thought he would be. Personally if feels quite irrelevant to me just one of those coincidences. I think public boosters only role in that incident was that he was pushing conviction like no other opponent had well, I, Guess Car Lebanon had a little bit of the US Open but. Preceding that instant in New York Djokovic should have won that set and all all part of the reason why he was upset was what cornea booster was was doing to him on the court. So just from a purely tennis perspective, cranial booster has got not much evidence but a little bit of evidence that he stayed with Djokovic conviction that set and that's GonNa. Make him feel a little bit good out of and I also reckon he probably wants to he would like to get a win over. Jackovitch kind of after that incident and kind of make people think oh well, maybe I would've won that match anyway be very, very surprised. If joke, which is a tool affected by it thinking about it and like you say David, he's he's kind of looking supreme expected. We'll have too much for renewable Sta I. I definitely think it's a harder match for him than old my would have been I think he would rather have played Omar I think think when you're booster has has the ability to. kind of go into the trenches with with Novak Djokovic just think Djokovic do this for nine years I'm I'm impressed with public arena bus DECI Father's foreigner. He that much with old Meyer was. We don't know how this came about, but selected over the Daniel Collins Shebir much these but the two singles matches that were. Rained off on the outside courts decision was made one of them would be moved to shut down at the end of the plan shedule. And that was the men's much. Don't mind. It means that Daniel Collins and on Bernau play. Therefore fourth-round much is the first match or shut a tomorrow a five much schedule. We'll come onto that in a moment and colons and Jabber the winner of that one will face severe cannon the Australian Open champion in the couture finals Kenan having having beaten Fiona Thorough A. Was it a tussle. It was a three-set match ferry was so impressive in in the first set. But Battle brought the best out of severe cannon because she loves a dogfight so much she so desperately loves a scrap. It's almost like. This young French go with all the crowd behind her having having fought back to to win the first set because she was a breakdown and then she then she just surged to take off that I set the crowd will behind her is almost as if they can. When right this is right where I want to I can be the bad guy I can get down and dirty with a street. Fight, and she just found a best in found some really excellent dropshots I didn't know that she had is like to touch on the dropshot is is I witnessed today and it was so great to see her stomping around like she goes to she. It was like her wasn't. It was like the woman that we really fell for back in January when she was behaving like that I'm playing line that. I just started to thank you know because she's playing that home favourite I think maybe that made it easier for her and her own mind to just. Focus on an immediate goal rather than this big macro thing of being a grand slam champion and what people expect to me. She was just out there right? Come on. Let's all. Take you all on. And so she did and it was. A fantastic fight back and by the end I mean that third set she played. Does nothing I could do they were just winds coming off a racket left right and center as you say, the drop shoppers hit beautifully. But she was the depths of stroke because well. She looks really dangerous yet. Chris. Clarry. said he thought it was the best he? Can in place since the Australian Open in those last two sets today and certainly not all of them hatches, Simpson, and open. But to my I, that was kind of what I felt was. Well, she really found her range and. The shop she was over hitting in the first set landing in in the. In the second and third and finding the corners, such a flathead such a flat return. As you said, there was really nothing ferro could do she was she was the aggressor out there. was a slightly bizarre instant with her dad I, would say extremely bizarre. She was she'd been warned earlier at change of ends by. Marina Vote Village in the chair. was. Yeah. Yeah. WHOA warned. By bivalve it's not former warning velvet said. You you'll team basically your dad is saying so much from the sidelines in a language. I don't understand. That I can't keep giving it the benefit the doubt if it keeps going on and a half to give you a coaching warning because the so much. Coming. From him, I'm going to have to seem that some of it must be coaching. At least I can't loud that some of it wouldn't be coaching. says. She was given this sort of soft warning about it and then that well then. The cameras picks up the hood. Dad had moved positions in the stadium. Pretty Empty Stadium and gone to sit. Directly. Next to a Manuel plunk who is Fiona Pharaohs coach you know in me know. They would right next to each other. It felt like the sort of. Biggest passive aggressive. You've ever seen. It completely coincided with the match turning around now I'm not exactly sure I think. John. Worth was reporting that the two coaches do know each other and that Emmanuel plunk has a different level of accreditation and is able to sit in the in the lower rungs of the stadium and. I don't know whether he invited canons that in I. Doubt that I really doubt that was kind of okay with it. He didn't seem particularly okay with at the end of the match she kind of stormed off a little bit. Just, just a really really bizarre thing. I'm trying to see whether Kennon was asked about it in her press conference. I, I'm I'm very sad that the cameras didn't pick up the moment that he went to sit there because from what I could see money will plunk on the end of a row. So, Sutphin can his dad would have had to shuffle post him To, take his seat and he might even have had to ask him to stand up. In the cinema and you go off the site. I wonder whether he was invited the. Site is, is because Ron, at the end of the match I did catch just a little bit of eye contact between the two and it did seem to me okay as I knew other. I don't I've never heard them talk to each other or anything is but just there was just a little bit of an announcement from wants the S. Social Protocol I mean even Cova decide it's not even get. That is a seat in between. It's like sitting next to on the Chew Bh when the cheap is empty obsolete known as but there's no question unless you're lovers. No. I'm not trying to start to read. There's no question. That when I saw that picture. Why is he sat? I found I've found the transcripts and another layer to this has said she doesn't know why Pharaohs coach was way. He was sitting because because she thought that that section was reserved for the highest seed which is. And And she said, I mean, my dad sat there. He tried to help me. So I'm not going to I don't know what I can say about Lou and then the follow up question is how do you mean he helps you and Kennedy said I mean motivating me helping me when I was losing overseas not telling me tactics which is what the umpire thought was happening. He wasn't coaching me. It was just motivation right? So it rumbles on I'm quite keen to what she can nets match now, and if she's down whether this happens again whether this is entirely. Against Daniel Collins because she's standing for that. No, Oh, imagine just imagine. It Nicolas Almagro. The new coach Daniel Goldin. City Sunday. What you did. I I ones. His. Favorite players to watch but I want Cannon Collins. I wanted to. Fed to me on a intravenous drip immediately. Yes and those two so much stumping. which match is going to have the more intensity out of that and sit surpassed ruble on those two matches back to back I'm not. GonNa. I'M GONNA need to know whiskey to Wednesday's. Isn't it. I haven't really think Wednesdays going to be good CAD. Collins Against Uber I up. On the order of play tomorrow just before. A run three, forty two tomorrow's match is on Chechnya. Another couple of business from today following up on. The story that we lead with yesterday. Verve. Losing his much to to Yannick sinner coming into press off to it's saying he had a fever was struggling for breath tight chest. we heard the news sort of late this afternoon he posted on his instagram stories a photo of a doctor's certificate showing that he had received a Cova test and had tested negative. which is such a relief I mean I can't imagine the relief that certain people have. Fell if I were young accelerate be immensely relieved. It doesn't doesn't really change anything other than I'm I'm pleased for for people's health I would. Not. Be So to bore about it, but I would hope that he realizes that this doesn't a hundred percent means that he doesn't have covid nineteen he still needs to. Remain in self-isolation if indeed he isn't. So relation because we've had no no word that he is not that worries me. and yeah, he has to continue continue to be tested. which again we've we've had nothing to that effect, but I certainly hope the both these things. All the case Absolutely right I. It's good that they they actually did this time that I got the and be they got the results of the test out there. So that at least. We are not less thinking. He just has walked off into the sunset without thinking twice about it. So that's good but you're right I. Think. I. Still Feel like there's a bit of a disconnect here in terms of fully appreciating. The potential and And the unanswered questions that remain but. Anyway, that's that's that. Let's hope that center has not been affected and can carry on. Play Rafael Tomorrow Night Yeah because that much is fifth on Philip shut trade tomorrow in a dull against sin of five matches sheduled. But that court we know that will get played because of the refined he said David Fi Russell that glorious sunshine is predicted. That is not on the BBC focus that I am seeing are not. Right K. was just a gray cloud on that day for me. That's what counts is. Glorious Sunshine. Every. Player starts with Jabbar Against Daniel Collins. Then it's Alina Switch Lena against the world number hundred and thirty one Nadia Puerto Roscoe really Nice instagram post by Gabriella Sabatini about Puerto skit today I I know you but I have to see the Sabatini some kind of. Hero or at least person that the Puerto School would have looked up that was. That was really heartwarming data Schwartzman then it gets dominic team and I think that could be the The retires as the French would say in the shed show tomorrow. The Traffic Jam. Bolton neck traffic jam thing. The thing that means that rough on doling on accented tape play until night because even after Schwartzman team tick Trevisan. Thank you. And then it's a synonym dull. So instead of much predictions, I'm going to ask you for time time the playbook finish tomorrow predictions. I'm. A. Maths on his hands. On guns go with one am. One AM THE PARTRIDGE NOT Twelve T. a. m.. Right you hang on is this French time? All UK time? Time. I'm going to go full. One thirty a M. I think team Schwartzman. Could really on Bhutto's things up tomorrow. Already. On what it means. Any upsets. Would you think? Is. GonNa win is she. is she a favorite for the title? Yes. Yes. He's going to win but I think she's the favorite for the Title I. Think Kenan Yeah Kenan Moving Cova. Yeah when as I said if it fails redundant term but I think just about I would I think Kenan today found gear the she's been looking for, and again it's one hurricane sometime this year. but still the best tennis I've seen tournament is from Egos Veontech. So I can I, can kind of understand why people are putting her up there. But you know there's there's a lot of tests to pass yet and I feel like the story of the tournament so far is underestimate. Martinez Trevy San at your peril because she is beating is well everyone in front of her in various different styles and very, very good players so that certainly certainly a match to watch. I, think I think last three matches I mean all of them a great job collins is a great start but those those last. Three are particularly interesting. I think I'm interested whether the conditions favour sinner a little bit against Dow, not not necessarily overall in terms of who would choose to play in nighttime conditions out of them. I think centre would prefer that to the dull hasn't played in that slot. Yeah. I don't know whether it's going to do anything to his ball bouncing off that surface and if I was having to pick an upset for tomorrow, which unfortunately I am. I I would probably go Schwartzman over team I'm not. Convinced that will happen. But that feels like the one that could be most likely to happen. We lost. One, remaining British. Hope in the men's doubles today Rajiv Joe Salisbury lost. Out. In the third round to. All the could finals tomorrow on know okay. This two men's two women's doubles correspondence. Yeah. Quarterfinals they'll start to massive povich and Bruno Suarez. Today, which means that Jamie Marine News Cup ski the thirteen seats of Lost Brits standing in the competition they face the defending champions tomorrow Kevin Caveats and undress meese if Germany, the eighth seeds up first stop on season-long. US ten. 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Federer: WTA/ATP Should Merge - our reaction; John Millman nearly retired, then beat Federer - our interview

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Federer: WTA/ATP Should Merge - our reaction; John Millman nearly retired, then beat Federer - our interview

"Hi this is Marion Bartoli Mats Wilander. This is Mary Carillo thundering. I'm Lleyton Hewitt I'm Andy Murray. And you're listening to the tennis podcast. Hello everybody another tennis. Podcast for you won't we weren't planning to bring you a couple of days ago but you know we just can't get enough of this and the so much going on and yes okay. There's no tennis but the stuff to talk about and we've got an interview with Joe Millman for you so we'll have that later but Catherine is here. Catherine David Selamat had David and the reason. We're convening altogether now. Not just having the Joe Millman interview which had been the original plan until about four hours ago is about twelve twenty eight pm today. Russia Federa- tweeted and what he tweeted was just wondering am I. The only one thinking that now is the time for men and women's tennis to be united and come together as one at which point Catherine and I wanted whether this was a teaser to a bit of content that might be coming out between the two tours because they've been producing causes loss of that and then I thought it can't be that cooked because I mean we've had instagram and lives law but moments later he said I'm picturing a merger between the WTO and the ATP I'm not talking about merging competition underscores but merging the two governing bodies the. Wta that oversee the men's and women's professional tours it's too confusing for the fans when there are different ranking systems different logos different websites. Different tournament categories. It probably should have happened a long time ago. But maybe now is really the time these tough times in every sport and we can come out of this to weaken bodies or one stronger body. Now when you hear that when you read that out loud that is pretty strong stuff catherine and and have to. I mean okay. We've been moving towards that in terms of little bits of Combined content under brand of tennis united. And we've had a heard an interview that has been put our way by the of their new seat in the new chairman and drag at NC Talkin about more and more collaboration. But for Roger Federer to come out apparently unsolicited and just say it's time to merge the tolls that was bombshell stuff ready wasn't it behold this novel an exciting idea. Yeah it was pretty bombshell stuff. I mean obviously. It's a good idea. Obviously Reid you. The way you read out these tweets. That sounds entirely sensible great. Let's do it. I'm trying not to be Aussie and SNIFFY ABOUT CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE STORY. And the way it's developing and being told that is happening on twitter. I'm trying to be a bit. Socially distanced from tennis twitter. I say that with heavy equities because it makes me shudder a little bit But it can be a bit of a toxic place and I'm trying to not be embroiled in it but this whole story has dropped exclusively on tennis twitter sort of had to be reeled back in the sort of arms race to claim claimed territory and claim claim that. This was their ideal. This is the first time anyone had this idea. The facts that you know of one suddenly sitting up and taking native destroy quality when a man shouts about it. All of those things I there is a part of me that wants to be about the the. Oc posted me often wins. But I'M GONNA try and be utilitarian about it and think. Look if if this is how the right thing ends up happening then then fine you know and I'm I'm going to echo do some shadowing echoing into something that you're going to say in relation to a different issue Later in the POD. He's talking about the distribution of wealth and prize money among top level players which is now suddenly a a a burning topic or among plays in general and he says look. I can't believe it's taken a pandemic for for this to be taken seriously and for the real powers that be to consider addressing it. Will I feel exactly that way about the the unification of The governing bodies but hey it took countless examples. They were able to for the. Nhs happened say if the ends justify the means then great. I'm going to suppress for once my RC side. I slightly wants to be able to read that. Billie. Jean King's response on twitter to Roger Federer in the in the sort of tone of voice that you began that that line yourself because what she actually says is I agree and have been saying. So since the early nineteen seventies she. I reckon she didn't say it like that. I kind of wish you had. And then she goes on say one voice women and men together has long been my vision for tennis the WTI on its own was always planned. Be I'm glad we're on the same page. Let's make it happen Hashtag. One voice is what Billie Jean King replied with Samana. Halla Patrick Evita Gubbay. Meru all tweeted support for what Roger Federer had to say and then I found the Dow tweeted. Hey Roger Federa- as you know per hour discussions. I completely agree that it would be great to get out of this world crisis with the Union of men's and women's tennis in only one organization which yeah suddenly makes all of this same quite premeditated between the two of them will maybe more than two of them. We haven't had anything I should say on this subject from Novak. Chuck rich the president of the council at this point. But it doesn't feel like this is just some using that Roger. Federer has just done while he's bored in lockdown as such A. It sounds as though it's been given quite a bit of thought he's had this chat so we've been reminded of this press conference. The rough on the Dow was involved in in two thousand nine hundred Australian Open when he responded to questions about whether he thought that should be a combined organization between the deputy. Atp with just telling us a misunderstanding. So he doesn't didn't understand really why that would be a good idea why we should talk about that. Why why that should be on the agenda And so this is a very very different tone now. Obviously we weren't in the middle of a global pandemic at that point. The world looked very different. It may it may well be that people who had previously never given a second thought to a combined organization of Sydney. Actually th. That's the way out of this. That's a good idea and got to be ready for that. But it's it's pretty stark. Isn't it the difference in town? Yeah I mean elements of needles. Tweet genuinely made me laugh out loud. First of all any suggestion that Is Great is his. English is Spanish as a first language adult composed. Hey at Roger Federer as per discussions. I mean absolutely no way. Is That tweet composed by Rafael Nadal? Himself as per I've ever seen his tweets to Anna Ravenna. Vish venevision join twitter. He said I look forward to our discussions on this means of communication when it was back in the early days of twitter. It was really sort of formal. And it's like a tweet anyway. It kind of reminded me of that one. Yeah so I mean yeah I mean that's not anything. Groundbreaking is that. He didn't necessarily compose himself. And if I was tweeting in a second language I would probably ask for some assistance as well. We've got to eat so I'm not having a pulp about that. But it the the sort of the attempt to say this. This was my idea too. I this came from a discussion that we both had. I was in on this too. That made me laugh because yeah I mean he. He kind of gets a slightly on it from me included because I think I kind of write him off of somebody. That's just not not hugely engaged with the with the wider. She's in Tennessee. And he kind of mice to the time brushes off interrogation about them as sort of. Oh you'll have to ask other people that are that are better informed and have have moose stake in it than than me. I'm not the best person to speak to you. That that clip. That's going around on twitter from the loss. Jesus straighten open is a good example of that. But the fact is he. He hasn't been supportive of equality in In Women's Tennessee's very much market forces based approach T. V. Prize money in the tools etc. So yeah this is. It's a bombshell. We saying really therefore most likely that this is another market forces response. I- sudden realization that the market is belly up because of the pandemic and therefore everybody be better off just coming in together or as it just pours everybody to realize the situation was wrong all along and it's only now that that's that's come to light. I mean I don't know the answer to that. But but those are the two possibilities I would imagine. It does seem that not just on this issue but also what was saying about how people are suddenly thinking about the lower ranked players that people now that there has been this ause people are thinking big picture whereas normally they are very much on the straight and narrow and just thinking of the next event so I we have to think. That is a legitimate thing. That happens where probably thinking a bit more big picture. I think that's normal. That people are using this time to think in that way. And that's a good thing. I think we can be frustrated that it hasn't happened earlier but we should also be pleased is happening now. Think those two are not compatible. I think those two can go together. I think the thing with me is. I would just want a little bit of caution. Based on Beijing Kings tweets. Actually the this was her original idea and it didn't. It didn't happen for a reason. And that reason was that the men at the time didn't wanted so the w she went their own way. Just think we should probably have a bit of caution about whether that could happen again. I think one of the good things about the WPA being set per is there is a body looking out for women in the sport whereas if he were to combine them and I I do think. The positives outweigh the negatives. If you combine them would that be The possibility that the men would get the better court assignments or things like that on the argument of market forces. Even though we don't believe that argument but I could see people falling into that trap. Potentially if there's not a body looking out for the women so I would. I would really hope that. It is a merger I like that word that federal used rather than kind of ATP takeover of the WTO. I think the importance is the merger and that is that is genuine gender equity within. It should say that in response to this Succession to by federal and the reaction from from fellow players. Some of our colleagues have been tweeting about it and might Dixon of the mail was saying that it is eventually a noble gesture but how many of the men further down that aren't as wealthy as Federal Dow How many of them are going to actually back. This line of Of Direction up Russell Fuller has reported from BBC. That's preliminary discussions have taken place between the two tours about greater collaboration in certain areas and it was noticeable that the communications boss of the ATP. Simon Higson actually tweeted the link to the Andrea Garden interview in which he described as a no brainer that the two associations need to work more closely together. Although there was no suggestion of the actual word merger I. I've asked Simon for clarification on that whether there is any intention for the two merge I haven't had a response as of yet that will suddenly in the last couple of hours that I've sent that off we have asked the W. A. as well for comment basking to see if we can get an interview with the boss. Dave Simon Chalk continued to try to do but yeah. How realistic is it? That's the big question because yes we were seeing things like yesterday where we where. We actually had an announcement of this player. Relief Fund which had a press release with the logos of the F. The WPA Anal- Four Grand Slams at the top of which is very very unusual. Pretty unprecedented for what is an unprecedented time. As we know and they are all going to pitch into this relief fund to try to raise some money for the lower ranked players who they're going to have more difficulty whether in this situation. But what about the future? How realistic is it? That would be my question. I mean how it's all well and good say you want to do it. But it's it's a heck of a big thing to actually go out and make this work somehow. I think it's entirely realistic and achievable. If the will is there and if the right may other I think it's obviously sort of Operationally and legally in all of those wheels that turn behind the scenes they would be a lot required but I don't. I think it's extremely realistic. If if the genuine will is the smart point in we have. We had Novak Djokovic writing that letter to the players suggesting the the fund they put together now since then the actual governing bodies have come together announce their own which they intend to try to raise six million dollars and Chris Clarry from the new at times reporting on that and there was a line in his piece which says that the proposal from Jock Itch and the council has not been embraced. And there's no by the rest of the players the structure of it of all the top hundred raising money for the two fifties to the seven hundred and fifty right plants so anything that the actual players do on top of what the Federation together would be voluntary and I think that that gives you an idea of the sort of opposition that is faced. It's one thing the very big names the top players coming together and saying hey. Why don't we do this when you actually get into the nitty gritty of it is when they run into roadblocks and I wonder how much backing they need to have from all of the the parts of both tournaments and the plays in order to get? Something this grant. It's going to be very interesting. And just thinking about it economically. If the the economic argument that the players gave his is one to to not have some kind of merger it would be the men's players ranked. I Dunno fifty downwards. Perhaps who would probably oppose it on those grounds because as we know currently the men's plays ranked in that region doing a lot better economically than women's players because even combined events a lot of them not slams loaded the others. Do pay the men more than the women sat on the HP and every tour. We see that so. There probably is going to be a resistance from a lot of the Mayo players in that region. Unfortunately as as I think Mike Dixon was alluding to with his tweet. Yeah and it's it's pretty much impossible to see this. Actually progressing as much as veteran adul- the most Sort of publicity wise The most powerful voices in in the men's side of the sport. It's hard to see it. The idea progressing without the support of know about jock which not just because he's the world number one but because he is the leader of the plays counseling. They surely any moving. This direction would require the consent. And I've no idea what Novak Djokovic thinks about this. He may be in full support. I genuinely don't know but it is. It is notable that pretty much everybody if night is is weighing in on this on on twitter. I'm sitting up and taking notice and he. He's tweeted today about world Earth Day. All something completely unrelated. It's hard to believe given politically engaged. Is that this is passing him by. He will know. This is all happening And he's Yeah. He's tweeting about something else entirely. So that's a note of concern. He's had his own situation publicly to deal with the back of one of his face. Put lives we mentioned to you. A couple of days ago that he had been quoted via translation from his facebook live with fellow Serbian athletes talking about his opposition to a vaccine required vaccine for covered nineteen in order to be able to travel. And we were I. I didn't want to discuss that at that particular point until we'd heard more from him to to actually get some clarity that that is exactly what he had said. Well we've since hat via Chris. Clarry statement issued by Novak Chuck Rich. Who said personally I am opposed to the vaccination against covered nineteen in order to be able to travel but if it becomes compulsory. I'll have to make a decision whether to do it or not. This is my current feeling. I don't know if it will change but it really influences my profession. Many tennis players athletes have reached out to me asking what my opinion is on this whole situation. Express my views because I have the right to and I also feel responsible to highlight certain essential topics that are concerning the tennis world to be honest just like the rest of the world. I'm a bit confused. Despite having access to information resources I am left in doubt about what could be the best thing to do. My job requires a lot of travel. Some are saying that for us who travel we would have to take the vaccine that has yet to be developed therefore would like to repeat and point out that at this moment we do not have adequate information. We don't know if there will be new measures which will be taken. Will we have a choice to decide on our own what to do or not with the vaccine? I'd like to know more details about the process before making the to sit right decisions curious about well being and I'm going to spend the whole lifetime learning about the body and how we can empower metabolism to be in the best shape to defend against imposters like Kovic nineteen my fullest respect and gratitude goes to all the noble compassionate medical people who are giving support to the ones that need it the most. I am no expert but I do want to have an option to choose. What's best for my body and keeping an open mind and I'll continue to research on this topic because it is important and it will affect all of us. So that's what Novak Djokovic had to say in response to the conversation about his initial comments. He's not backing down. Really is from his original notion that he is basically a post vaccination Or at least required vaccination to travel. Which is it has significance in the current environment the global environment that we're in and I am surprised really that he's got himself involved in this and I think it's probably probably a mistake really have started talking about this in the first place. Yeah I mean as you say. There's a slight distinction between opposition to the vaccine and opposition to a required vaccine in all due to your job I can. I can see that. There might be Civil Libertarian. Civil Liberties type argument Against the the requirement of the vaccine but the stuff at the end of that statement about the the empowerment of all bodies. suggests that it's more of a philosophical position which I find extremely reckless Frankly I mean it ceases to be a personal opinion ready when he start having starving contact with other people. And you know it's it's every it's any vaccinations that when all dying of cholera right. Now Oh tb or I mean. It's just ANTIBAC- Rhetoric is Is proven to be bollocks On on an awful lot of time for and I think it's pretty pretty reckless for people at night to be to be expanding it ready and I it does surprise me that he's doing as I say if it's if it's an opposition to the requirement of it I can see I can I can Land that a bit more sympathy Because there is a sort of liberty tight argument as much as I wouldn't personally have an issue with Me Back to the interview in Brixton with him for the Telegraph which we we play to here on the podcast put a year and a half two years ago when he was talking about his his to have surgery for his elbow because he he he believed in and he wanted to prove that his body could heal itself anti. He put that elbow surgery for some time before ending up having turned well. We know what happened after that He. It's sorted his elbow out and he went on to dominate the tennis world again. Just a note as well from Joan Worth. I'm in his sports illustrated mail bag which he does every week he. He's got two points one after another where he highlights Nova chocolate. Which is letter to the players that had been ratified by Roger? Raffray says to fellow players about establishment of a relief fund. Any any really held that John said pretty dumb extraordinary. They've that they wanted to do that. In the first place. And he said and from winners two eras Novak Djokovic and his apparent anti VACs stand stance was disturbing. I'm we try to accommodate the diversity view but I have trouble with open mindedness of this issue anti vaccines twenty-first-century witchcraft John Rights. It's deeply problematic. It's deeply selfish. It's deeply at odds with you. Know facts and science jump to the end for an informed reader view of it and he actually quotes somebody who works in the medical world and and is a physician and has seen firsthand the the devastating effects have covered nineteen and is is paying now acts words pretty short shrift Or the stance of anybody along those lines. So yeah maybe he will think again. I sorta hope he will but it must have been quite a quite a few days in his world so that's pretty much the latest the nasty days. There's plenty going on Why don't we tennis never really does know that we'd be doing emergency podcast about? Mtv axe stones is ours. And I it's just we'll we'll three the looking glass. We we all so when I got up this morning my plan was to call John Millman before all this started and call him is what I did and the reason was because just felt like there was loads to talk about. John McCall John. How are you doing in these these strange old times hit the nail on the head that is To to what we used to what? We're accustomed to but Things here in Australia looked the situation. has probably gone as as as good as it can be Strategy seems at the moment. Touch Wood to have You know stopped stopped this The Corona for now and and Just getting used to a different pace of life really. Yeah a different pace of life. And at the same time I mean everybody's affected to a lesser or greater extent. See some people very gravely and economically as well. But what about for tennis player all look? It's a tricky time. Isn't it because you have this one to the ATP to obviously that's come to a grinding whole thing is is just getting that motivation and knowing when we're going to kick off again because You know there's a lot of uncertainty. You hear a lot of different things different speculation at times as to as to win that will be but the truth is i. Don't think anyone really not of the Indian black account that we probably can't resume the ATP tour until until the you know the world sees a defeat of this forest really wallet still president. I'm not too sure if we can do too much international travel because I suppose you talked about motivation. There your your somebody who's known for training very hard working out getting ready leaving no stone unturned. How how you handling the day to day in that regard look unfortunately for myself a little bit of experience of sitting on the sidelines for extended period of time had three quite significant surgeries. Probably the second one the show the one that sold me out of action for probably about thirteen months until I felt like Opening a physician to to properly compete against I've had a bit of experience of of sitting on the sidelines but it is difficult. The older you get the harder it is You know you've got other things going on and you lost that's for sure other priorities also In in tennis as Tom's progressed it's it's become a joke. It's it's what pays the bills it is difficult but the found setting routines and setting goals. Each day has really helped me someone that that wants to keep improving and I'm trying to find a little lies to to do that. So you still training every day now. Does that involve a tennis racket in a bowl looking astrologist you? I'm doing a lot of Kolpak of a home gym setup. We have got a kid that I'm I'm looking just about every APP under the sun including sweeps where I get my Competitive juices flowing. Good Indoor irtual racing industry of the state to state has laws from protocols to tackle the Corona Vars to try to flatten that curve as they've reiterated on on multiple occasions whilst in in in Queensland which is where I'm from I'm from Brisbane We meant well. We're not meant to click goats but private courts. You still allowed to So long as that person's household has no more than two visitors. So I'm happy to get on court at times being experienced extremely generous families here in in Queens some that I didn't even know it before Who UPDATE. They caught such that doors courts to allow me to jump on and just keep the oil inappropriate. Just doing enough to keep the oil and right now. You mentioned the time you've spent on the sidelines over the years and the financial implications for that and and it's it's one of the reasons I sort of wanted to speak to you this week. I've been hoping to speak to you a little while but give us an idea of of what happened to you a few years ago. First of all because I I recall speaking to you. I think the Sixteen Wimbledon. When you're about to play Andy Murray and you you would have been twenty six twenty seven years old at the time and you you basically. You weren't that far away from having to give up this. Yeah you're spot on the. I had quite significant Shoulder Surgery at the end of twenty four before that that one thirty in the world didn't have too much to defend does actually going to get a wild card and be manger of the French Open which is extremely excited about but I actually got some scans and it showed that I had a toll nighttime a slap tear so that's that requires quite a significant surgery so actually rescinded. The WOLCOTT. New Curious ended up getting his chance and went onto to create some waves in men's tennis back when he was a junior and Are started the the long process of of surgery and then the recovery process was working in the city. That Chile Getting dressed up in a suit until I just getting experience of the change of scenery but There were times when I didn't I wanted to to get back into it and there were times also where it was difficult financially to probably one. Mako break trick had managed to get through to tournaments finally in Korea futures events when the US Open was on twenty fifteen and managed to to get through those two in our member. Going America to play three challenges one Napa Valley the next in Sacramento in the third to to finish off the Californian swing within Tiburon and remember to this day. Having six thousand dollars in the bank account and if I didn't get any results than than that was old she was Zam. Yes I was just about. Brought to be honest with you so Oil is lucky to stand and it kind of Actually gave me a lot of hitting into the back of that year and luckily enough the next year olds top hundred so I've lived in braided and and therefore I feel like At times I can speak with With a bit of this on the subject on what do you? We've heard a lot of the last week or so. About what Tennis Candu. What tennis needs to do we? We did a podcast a couple of weeks ago saying what happens when tennis stops and we got some insight into the finances in this and we heard from the British tennis federation the TI. They were putting into to place a plan to support their players a financial package. Now we've had first of all understand. Novak Djokovic as the head of the PLA- Council wrote to the players to try to encourage a a contribution scheme to support plans ranked to fifty in the world to seven hundred world and yesterday the WTO and all four slams and the put out a release saying that they were producing fund between them details to follow in order to support players that we believe ranked one hundred four hundreds. What what do you think of what you've heard? What do you think should be happening a little bit of criticism on on a tweet? I did after hearing the supplies which I think the the right intentions at heart and in no way was a ceiling out. Someone like evacuees. You know pretty sat down and thought about the ways to help people so I think it gets a little bit lost on social media way coming from but my biggest Stumm I guess I could say Gras with the whole issue. Is that it really. In my opinion it's really taken a pandemic a global pandemic to notice that these players are struggling. And didn't you just because as a pandemic Al? This problem has been relevant for many many years throughout my career. When I was making my way up through the two of you playing literally one hundred dollar checks and lots of stuff you know for some people sleeping on floors the Properly and they literally have to win matches to get a plane ticket out of this. So that's probably my biggest gripe is did. I don't think we've properly addressed it in. The many many years have gone by. We've done little things we've No longer have ten thousand dollars futures. We have fifteen thousand dollars users but when you work out the nuts and bolts of that it equates to one hundred two hundred bucks a week. Which opinion isn't enough? I believe at times and I'm I'm part of the problem because when I made it to the top hundred I appreciate it to be honest with you. The prize money increases that we have you know I'm part of the problem and put my hand up and definitely admit that and the way I justified in my head is well I had to go through that big grind and I lived at pretty rough for for fairly long time and now I'm making the rewards SA- Getting Day but it's probably the wrong way to look at it and I'll be the first to admit that Office feel as if a more concerted effort should have been made many years ago. I understand The you know the top players are the ones that bring in the majority of the Mario. I totally understand that but to make us sport viable into and to make it attractive It is the world game. It's played all over the world and his only one to a really so I just feel as if we had more opportunities in the past To help out Multiplies than what we have done. So what now? What would you like to see done now? Look I'm not the Arman everyday person. I don't have all the answers but I definitely would like to more of a of a concerted effort and and and more money being invested into the lower to the lower two. Is the future challenges. It can't be done I would like to see that the the the main intention the main focus moving forward I ideally how I would like. It is a complete restructure. But that won't happen but like golf How they have multiple on multiple fronts going at once and just Really expanding the opportunities applies. Look that's probably a pipe dream bit It's something that that I've heard people mentioned in the past. And it's something that I fun quite invoicing You've given insights into the finances. The situation you find yourself for that six thousand dollars in the Bank can how how well do you have to do in tennis in your experience? What was the tipping point? Few Sydney to be able to at least realize making a living now. This is viable. I can see the way forward. What sort of ranking did you have to be at all? Look I think the target was always that top hundred. That was something that that you saw And Opportunity Day. Because that means you'd be playing main drawers of of Grand Slams and you could kind of factor that in the year that if you did that you we create easiest circumstances for yourself but outside of that it it drops off very steeply in my opinion especially for the level of tennis player that exists outside that top hundred and when you the thing is I suppose the argument is once you can get in as you said to the top hundred. You get exposed to those first-round prize money checks at the Grand Slams. Those are now considerable. Those have risen a lot but outside of that. It's it's a very different story. Yeah and and that's right and and it's kind of a bit of a catch twenty two isn't it because You increase money in these earlier rounds which is fantastic and definitely being beneficia- Bishop beneficiary of one of the first people to put up my hand but on the flip side. I just feel as if it had to be more of a focus on how we can get ballplayers making money. Significant money on all the people will say well look we. We prove it more hospitality challenger events you know that became compulsory but I still feel as if we quite Short on where they not to mention the fact that one of the the albums now gay is these bidding and match-fixing. Some of these guys are desperate. They not making any money to the living extremely roused Rawson therefore they get tempted to make a poor decision. I can't help but feel if there was more. Take them to lose. They wouldn't be venturing down that DOT toss. Let's talk about some some happier thoughts John and specifically your tennis because as you say you've made some some huge strides over the last couple of years and I think when anybody mentions your name just in conversation they'll think back to your matches with Roger Federer because because they're extraordinary really the I think. Three out of the four matches you played against him have been very close you one one of them the US. Open you very nearly one another one at the Australian Open this year. Just let's just go back to that. Us Open match if we may what. What are your memories of that? Why how and. Why did that go your way that night? Although going into the match I I that was around sixteen match Already won Three Mac before that I always feel pretty good when you runs on the going into a big match like that. I know some people will say when you get a Bad. Drew drove one of the big guys. I ran and they go home to get them but they don't really lose rounds too often prefer to go in there with you runs on the board and and we've confidence underneath the belt so. I felt pretty good going into that match. The conditions were shooting me that it was quite heavy. It was hot. It was humid even at night at probably the humidity win. Went up through the roof but similar to what I'm used to here in Brisbane now and went on the court doing what I always do. I play anyone's reputation You start off. Zero Woah. Always had that opinion. Don't WanNa put anyone on a pedestal and lose the match before it even started and and Roger came out playing amazing. Tennessee was really in control and also a bit of trouble down set. I think he might have even served for the second hanging in May managed to turn it into a physical affair and was the set applying some some really great. Tennis always just started relieved. Probably more so than anything that I put myself in into to create a bit of a story and a and a bit of an upset it was a it was a special Nardin and one that I definitely I remember some parts of it. Some parts really remember Ma. Bit enjoyed competing. That's why I fell in love with tennis. I love the competition. I love Being able to look at myself in the Mirror Diane Site. I gave it absolutely everything. And that's what I've built my brand on you. Have I remember commentating on that match and the way turned mid match and I just wonder from your perspective though there were there were little tell signs the I felt I could see looking at the TV screen looking close up at federal late on in that match whether whether tells fi you on the court the Actually? I think I'm getting to him or he might be struggling a bit here all definitely. I think as the match progressed. My level probably increase and. I thought perhaps to throw in a couple of double faults in his omay quite reliable definitely on fully aware that Roger wasn't at his best during the during the course of that match in. And that's why you go on there and you don't play anyone's reputation you don't know how they're feeling throughout the match Did Not always gonNA have great days? So I I keep things Pretty level headed in any perspective. But I mean you give yourself a chance that why don't you and And that's how I've always been bought up to you self every chance and and that's what I did. You got very close to a Australian Open as well. How how do you reflect on that now? I'll look again in that naturals. Actually quite calm thought that he was playing some really good tennis to three sets to one Thought that he had that momentum going into that said I was really proud of my efforts to kind of turn that on its head I think I I took the fourth and even been up to one in the fifth your way from the finish line. That was actually pretty tough to get any type of easy halts that non conditions weren't playing overly quick especially on those show courts at these strain open They seem to play a lot slower still than the outside. What's even with the change of surface? Obviously it got to that. Fifth set tiebreaker. The match by break your which a different format one. That I hadn't done before and to get into a leading dish in there. It's really good tennis. I think I get maybe three passing shots and and just played some great tennis Raja obviously being the champion that he is Doesn't give you anything then. He managed to get the weaned. Hut does not doubt about that I told my calf in that match. I absolutely everything help it. It hurts and is there's no Nets fought sometimes. It can be really difficult and what I could do is is. I could say again that that elected out there. I I did everything I could to to try to get another win being really special to do so. You know in my home country but I couldn't quite get there had one or two audio problems around about here in the interview selects just fast forward to a little bit later on when asked John. How tennis's going to get back up and running how important a vaccine is in his view in terms of travel bang in mind comments made by Novak Jock itch over the last couple of days and what his thoughts on the subject were. Tennis is a global game and play his come from from wove on until the whole world that has a tennis federation And they applies can travel auden believes that the tuition can go on. So I'm thinking any being indefinite period of time I'm definitely not of the opinion that the American swing will go ahead And then after that we start getting towards the end of the year sorry Luca off feel as if we could be on the saw on for a while If a vaccine came a beat the first in the curator of tennis players probably to be getting one I think it's pretty black and white and because I don't think that we can start until everyone has the same paternity to get to a tournament. That's an interesting point isn't it? Because we've we've heard of a couple of the the exhibition options that are being muted. No Patrick Mara Tug lose planning one in France this talk about perhaps one in Britain and I guess it may proper pin in Australia's well we might replace domestic tennis for a little while looking in. I think two things that I have no problem. First of all of off countries can do it in a safe way and have exhibition matches where players earning living. I have no problem with that whatsoever. Also I feel as if especially domestically here in Australia. Where Tennessee is really funny? Really on the forefront of people's minds for one month a year in my opinion that month of January where it culminates in the Australian Open. So I feel like it's actually a pretty good opportunity to to grow the game domestically and You know I'm sure tennis Australia of putting them on together as to how and what. The best way is to do that but Look at the I think you've always got to try to find. The Civil Owning stumble. Wine is that it's just a game in thank you. This is showing us that This plenty more important things than than sport In the health and safety of friends and family and loved ones a hell of a lot more important than what we do is job And two I think we have to realize now when we spend a bit of time away from the sport how lucky we ought to do what we do. I think we take it for granted sometimes when we just day to day and week to week on the Tom spent away. I think we're missing it fans and play as a lot can and I think it's really put things into perspective and at the same time. It's it's allowed us to To really appreciate just how lucky we up? Well John her think everybody listening to that will be quite uplifted. Your your attitude is is something that we we've thought about a lot on this show over the years I just WanNa do. Do you GonNa vote. Do you ever do you ever sale you sailor about yeah on much of asylum night. Oh I'm not. I'm not very found that to be honest with your fan. Dad Tom Away from tennis that I'm not too good at most things. I think cycling We'd be one of those things. I'm not too good at on. I thought I could play golf in the moral full Gulf. I've played the west of got side question. John is my my co host. Catherine her father is a key keen sailor and says there are certain players that he would happily have on the boat with him and he thinks that you would be wanted them. Because you'd be you'd be the sort of character that would fit in which I think is can be no greater compliment. I would I would love to do it. You know we have a one of our. Famous races is the Sydney to Hobart Yacht race That we have eight year and Every now and again you know. They get sporting identities or whatnot. And it's something that I think is one of the really cool achievements that you can have a look at to get on board. I'll have to do. Research is to What what are not a few different different words and terminologies that I'd have to to wrap my head around in my take out but when when I put my mind to it I like to think that I give it a hundred tempests I have no doubt actually just settle an argument for us. We were also discussing. What sort of shipmates nick? Curious would end up being. You've been his teammate. What's he like? Look I think it's a bit of a hot hot Tom at times? Because he is. Such an. Enigma is a character on court. He's a whole bunch of superlatives. Spit off the court. He's he's a team player and he does so much but behind the scenes that I think people don't say look. It's a really good person to be around. He's a lot of fun We were on a bite actually in Brisbane and yet so they didn't enjoy a lot but he was just staring me out because gun down the Brisbane River. All the Brown snake. Is We call it? I think he was trying to stir me up a little bit bit low keys actually a lot of fun to be and I think maybe perhaps He'd leave me to do the heavy lifting on the they listening but Spirits would always be in in in a good mood because he's Not Eilly any any Give out the stick but he can take it. Also that's great. John is lovely to talk to you. Thanks thanks so much for joining us. What can you tell us about your podcast? When's that coming out look much? I wished Australian play. Alex Demon as Another one of my Davis Cup teammates who I would also love to have on abide. I didn't ask that question but I might have to do a little bit of editing located probably in the next week or so and and hopefully I can do a couple before the tour resumes because I like speaking of in speak sometimes too much It's a bit of fun for me and it's just something to to stay in touch. Not only with you. Know other people on the two that Just to keep you active in and Keep your mind from wandering. Sometimes at one does a little too much good for you. Best of luck with it. I'll look for terminal. Listen to that and thanks so much for joining us. Some on the tennis podcast. Asha thank you. Thanks very much guys so Catherine Johns up for being on the boat. Yeah I mean the attitude expressed. There is exactly why I think my my dad would be keen to think first mate his even been discussed on the which. What'S UP SHOP. Because he's just up for it and with with absolutely no ego tool no expectations of being amazing at it. It will give is all An could committed for I think that makes him eligible. He's also up for without having any idea what it actually is amazed me about. It just seemed to embrace the whole concept immediate. Yeah he started talking about is soon as you mentioned. Just the idea of being on a bite with some some blake that he's never heard of some some women's Dad he's starting to talk about participating in competitive racing competitive sailing. That was his. I thought like yeah. I've not really done it before. It wasn't regulated last time. I did it but sure will take part in the in a in a competitive race with David whittaker. I'm Upfront David. Risk is up fritzy. I guess he's you know he's firmly behind it. Curious as being part of the crew somewhere on. It sounds like on a city can in in Brisbane which my dad will know. Well having lived in Brisbane and commuted to work on a city cat everyday for a couple of years so I did that cold just thinking well Joe Millman is just exactly what I thought he was as as a person and certainly decent fellow very straightforward gives everything he's got and that will do yep old if the attributes that make him bike worthy. There's absolutely no side to him is the movies. He's just a moment. Indeed so anything else. We need to cover folks sensation. Yes to right Joe Joe Millman as being sensation if anybody doesn't know what this is about one of our stadion broadcasts colleagues described John Sensation and yeah I think you need to put put it to him too. I think you'd be to bachelor onto too shy about it but we all know is one so thank you for coming on. The show is great to hear from him. We'll be back again with another podcast a couple of days time. Yeah I mean that podcast coming out your ears like literally because that's day and the next one will feature our full interview with Pam Shriver next week already planning the worst-off wake imagine that we've got a themed week cold worst-off week and I mean every week has been themed that we're GonNa make official it'll feature folks. It'll start on Monday with the worst of our predictions since we started eight years ago. And I mean there are a lot of contenders matt. You spend the whole day on a thing gems to near. I have had so much fun. I'm I'm very lucky that I've only come in in the last eighteen months and I. I've made some howlers in that time. Youtube eight years. I'M GONNA take an absolute hammering me to scrape bracing myself so look forward to that folks. Our worst predictions coming your way on Monday. Pam Shriver on Friday but for us out here on the tennis. Guess thanks for listening we'll speeches.

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Cincinnati - Are Keys and Medvedev now in the US Open mix?

"Hi i'm john mcenroe martina navratilova. I'm mats wilander. I'm sandra wanka. Am lleyton hewitt. I'm marie and you're listening to the tennis. Podcast we come to you not from catherine's back garden which was the plan but a rainstorm has erupted which has made made not matter myself of just sit in the car for about ten minutes until it stopped so we are in catherine's living room. It's lovely very convenient for me. Yes and we're ahead of the u._s. Open matt. This couldn't be less like the u._s. Open if it could it this particular roo- what are you trying to say about my living room. Well i can't spend any burgers and the lifts working enough in light of the u._s. Open and there's no there's no loud people around ted headbut. Yes it's tim i. There's no humidity so for sixty nine buzz. That's well. We'll we're providing the buzz here on the tennis podcast brought to you and says the telegraph how we all day folks. We've had cincinnati. We've had madison keys winning. The title of is because nets we've had daniel medvedev beating everybody in the world several times over and after two consecutive finals winning the title in cincinnati. He has been amazing. How we l. de doing right sort of good over my montiel jetlag just in time to go to new york say brilliant. They don't really plan that area. Oh yeah and how about you. I'm well. I've just about dried off after getting drenched minute ago. David came to my rescue schnitt timing. I was walking on the street and suddenly david next time. I was in dry dripping all over my car. That's fine start of a film isn't it. Yes well these. He's at the met. These are the links we go to you here on the tennis podcast. Thanks for joining us. We've got lots to talk about today so let's get cracking on with it. We got the u._s. Open coming up in in just a few days time. It's catherine so she's swapping this lovely serene setting for the buzz the razzmatazz flushing meadows in new york in today's times. I guaranteed as time yeah okay so catherine's going on wednesday. I'll be there at the weekend match not comment sorry about serious foam but next year the goal is with the kickstarter crowdfunding is to get matt to new york with the tennis space to create buzz with the matt. How are we supposed to do anything these days so over reliance january's about it we don't do any research at all just expect to know sta and yeah. We decided just to get through today. We've also had our andy murray show. We'll get casters reaction action to that because mass ave talking about that on mondays show and we've got my big interview to preview which is going out on wednesday. I'll tell you the end of the show who's with so first of all cincinnati men's and women's tournaments that start with the women's tournament which has resulted in two more additions nations to the mix right. It was medicine. He's not already in the mix well. She thinks she's always in the mix. It mejia's kids isn't she. She's major keys to win. I i mean or at least be winning from therapy lambs that are in the mix in the women's anyway. Possibly in the men's move to come introduces a dangerous place to start. Let's move on from madison. Keys is always in the mix it majors new york final semifinal absolute run to the title is just extraordinary first-round governing maruta daroca sakina simona halep venus williams severe cannon and then spent on kuznetsova and she hits well well. If i think it was a full four five in the second-set start swished up that she'd hit forty winners in fine in the two sets the final against photonic is nets visit probably ended on close to fifty and she was not making errors. I mean quite i topi esley if she plays like that. She's in with a very good show if winning the u._s. Open just a massive massive but that's as good as i've scene madison keys plane why why is that because we've always known she's spectacular. She's an incredible ball-striker but the was something different about on on the white. Let me look it was her biggest title for stance clearly the something different but even the way she was going about. Doing it was different. It wasn't just like having having a great week and it all clicking and she just played lights at tennis was it. I think it was the shoes. Maybe the social powers really great trainers. I i was definitely going to say it was the footwork so that they would y on china's is made me think made me spiral and thought about why trainers aunt snazzier in tennessee and i mean you may be thinking what happened to this podcast. Remember talking about the shoes when we should be talking about the players. The the reason this is particularly momentous is because katherine is so mt talkin about player clothing that this is quite a moment for me. I remember stealing they need power and with all the things and how gendered generally discussion of play clothing is not because i'm not interested in clothing or because because i think it's bad to be interested in clothing but just because it's it's a difficult one to get into an an void and sidestep all they pitfalls but i really loved madison keys snazzy leopard pinch trainers and i urge there to be more snazzy trainers in tennis on men and women right okay well just to say if you go back in the archives about seven years to when we were just trying to work out how to do this show i did want to do a special on tennis player clothing and i did and catherine put with it and i described the gym career shirt out of nineteen ninety-two that i used to own and we're proudly with its baseball stripes but catherine was not interested. Things got more interesting now. They've if you start addressing canaan curry's licorice also the you know in the nineties it was just banke white top not shut with naff trafton okay so moving on from madison cases shoes what they were your observations map because i remember seeing a tweet from you that that that summed it up pretty neatly for me that we were seeing something from her that we we. I haven't seen really consistently before yeah. I think the tweet was when she been this disciplined because madison keys has always been capable of hitting winners but she's always had the consistency and i was trying to figure out what a change and i did think it was the footwork. She was in the right place to hit the right shot. It's so most a little bit staying wrinkle. When he was coming back from his injury he was still he still had all that power but he wasn't in the right place to hit the ball because his foot work wasn't right. It was still wasn't trusting. His leg and shots were going all over the place. Keys hasn't had that kind of injury but she just seems to have improved footwork so it was great to watch because she no she lost none of what made her madison keys which was the firepower and the ability to win as we said about fifty in the fine i think she'd hit seventy not across the courtesan. Sonny's put together and yet. She was rallying from the baseline being patient with margin and those things thanks together. Can i make a really tough to stop. I mean as we saw in cincinnati and i think i think we will see it in new york if she pays that beating madison keys when she's playing like that i think the thing is i the alight probably several coaches tried to get it to play like this including lindsay z. downpour and if you look at the number of coaches she's had it's so law and order six to eight coaches and she's back now to the coach she heads i think when she won eastbourne born in two thousand fourteen just kind of a breakthrough result. I think she's back with him. I think he's called one one to dera yes right and i think she said yeah as you said lots of people have told her that she needs to be more disciplined imply with more margin but she's realized that for self now and that's almost more powerful than someone telling you today that you have to believe it yourself and she knows it now but she has the trust her legs doesn't she in order to have that base to be able to keith into these balls not because a lot of her tennis became panic panik tennis right i i'm not i've got to hit a winner a bailout of a rally but you mentioned once there. I didn't realize that the the he used to coach before remembered his name and i couldn't work out where from all of his plays coach and she was one of them and i realized i commentated on that final eastbourne final for bt sport back in the day and that is when she was a term most impressive in my recollection she at that time is when you interviewed brad gilbert's catherine shortly after because that was in two thousand fourteen east born catherine called him on his his feud with david blocks onto. You got him to unblock me. Thanks for that but you. You got him on medicine case. He's got him saying that she will be well number. One inside seventy two months no copyright inside turn turn half years how many of the mass specs so so basically was talking about six years and so we're number to pluck a scene because i was listening to the no lane up golf podcast on the way down here <hes> so anyway shout out to them. I'm sure they're not broken said that she will be well. The morn- inside two and a half years martin and advertiser interviewed a few months later said. I don't think it'll take that along so we weren't doing them. Any favors like just quenching the hype here. We were building it up here on the tennis podcast. That was mid twenty fifteen here. We are four and a half years later. She hasn't got near that she's reached one grand slam final of the u._s. open. She didn't really come close to winning it. Sloan stevens won it but she has as you said kept knocking at the door slams but it still feels underwhelming based on that nineteen year old i saw in a sport yeah. Absolutely she's gonna be well as of this moment. She is number ten in the world. I think the seething suicide done based on the the rankings today. I i mean she's not going to be one of the top seed so that is a danger for for other seeded players i would say i bet she shouldn't be attending. The world should share me. She's behind arena sabah linka at number nine. That's surprising anyway. She's just starting to play well again several in kapoor way yes still you know i think ranking is state quite high. Hasn't it because a lot of what she achieves. Lofty was the back end of the those points haven't she will she will tumble and unless she continues can use the in the direction as you say. She's been in the last couple of weeks but anyway madison keys yeah. I think there's been a bit of possibly putting mutt and her mouth but a bit of sort of fatalism determinism about her attitude terrain game over the last few years. I'm just a big hitter. You know. Movements achievements never going to be my forte. These are the things idea well. I've just got to stick with them and believe in them rather than thinking. Maybe i can be something a bit different. Maybe my candidate mccain can be mobile. Maybe movement doesn't have to be a big weakness for me. It does feel like something is clicked internally rather than people telling her how they to be and injuries kept deriving as well richard and she also had the abductor injury the australian open about three years ago when she was carried off the court. You know i think the u._s. Open finally a couple of years ago did probably skull her for awhile you know she she froze on occasion shoes playing a fellow first time grand slam finalist you know they were both in the same boat both good friends and to have all of these parallels going in and then for them to have dealt with that so very differently on the day day. I can imagine that would make you feel very insecure in insufficient somehow why why was she able to deal with that in may i mentioned that probably did bring with it. Some <hes> some baggage that it's taken together i would i would have one reservation nation having watched the final against nets and we've talked about how a lot of a confidence coming from within now and she seemed to be on the standing game better <hes> however in that final she wasn't relying on court coaching but she did lean on quite heavily that was she was trailing in both sets because netzer because that's for serve for both sets she certainly led five three inbound sex because nets and keys cooled on wanted era quite key times and he was basically saying you've got to start taking a bit earlier and hitting the top of the bounce and she did exactly that both times she responded on the to him coming on so i hope that she'll be able to transition to playing in new york without having that guidance of coaching oh coaching but we have seen certainly the planet comes to my most puska who's had all these great results in the on the w._p._a. Or not been to transfer it to a slam so that would be my one was a vacation plus. She can throw in a horror of performance every now and again. You can look like she's going somewhere in a slam and then just throwing run an awful performance redeina wimbledon that much will live with me for a long time how somebody that good compla- that badly yeah is mind boggling yeah. The woman she beats set on kuznetsova in the final is is kind of the opposite in that. She's just she has produced. I mean she's a hugely talented player as looking back on two thousand seven when roger federer described her as one of her favourite play one of his favorite plays a really like her game and that was when she already won the u._s. open title in two thousand and four awards. It's going to be fifteen years since she won that u._s. Open this year. I'll come and tell you on that as well as the year that i i went to the u._s. Open as a fan yeah yeah the kids nets she would have been eighteen at the time as a great longevity from her and here she is it was wrist-injury. She's had over the last couple of years because she'd been in a terrible way. Remember when she qualified for the finals knocking out joe concert three years ago it was right at the last minute plan the most wonderful stuff and then she i thought she would probably win a slam the following year at some point and and then eventually she got struck down by this injury injury and i thought she might be done. You know the age and this week she's beaten. Sever stover your strengths ker. Saving two match is points sloan stevens carrying a push giver from three six three five down on the nash bought in the semis to get to the final fantastic custer yep. I found it really uplifting saying what she was doing this week. I have to say i thought she probably was done. I remember we follow her on instagram. Inside of our instagram over the past six months is not like on a this is falling into the trap of assuming that you're seeing on social asia media is one hundred percent of the person what they're doing doing with that lies whereas actually stay the the best one percent or the most glamorous won't but it didn't look like she was on her way back to becoming a professional tennis player again like somebody that was just enjoying life away from tennis so i'd kind of framed her out of my thoughts of if if current tennis and then he she suddenly the maze being brilliant and we were watching <hes> in the primary issue days we were covering the men's event in cincinnati but myself and greg we're watching bits and bobs of the women's in the in the studio and they just they were reminiscent radi about how they used as to think and talk about because nasa when she first break onto the scene in the mid noughties and they both agreed that she she had had and has absolutely everything they said she should. She should have been number one. You know she's just bags of time wonderful ball-striker <hes> <hes> yeah. They're just goring in her in her. I it's hard to think version underachieve because she's a two time grandson champion but it's it's possible that she could have been an awful lot more than that. Maybe that's what's driving around to make this comeback. His she looks a fearsome zim. Prospecting it took something as spectacular is madison keys to to take her out yesterday and i think a lot of people who've followed career any closely. We're saying that this is the fittest and leanest. She's almost ever looked <hes>. I was watching back some of that two thousand and four run to the u._s. Open talk to what struck me. Then is how then she seemed really really powerful. Shut this huge forehand which she still has a big forehand. It doesn't mm seem quite as big in comparison to the players today for example madison keys had the power advantage in that final but because netserver even though she's thirty four managed to figure out ways to stick around and points and use movement and fitness as strength and you don't often see that with from thirty four year old actually i was looking at some of the some of the numbers and she was she was really bucking the trend if she'd won this title because so many of all of the big events on the w._t._o. Obvious to all this year have been won by players vest than thirty the oldest winner of a what you call the big ben the premier vince and the slams is is patrick evita twenty nine and address the youngest eighteen in indian wells and the average age is twenty four and because so because that's the ten years older than the average age and yet she didn't look or feel out of place because attendance was so good and obviously it's just interesting to compare that to the men i haven't crunch the numbers for the men but i mentioned the average with federal down on your face winning so many is up in the thirties but so she's managing to compete with people people ten years ten years younger than we just think shows the strength and natural talent that she still has a game but actually that four hundred hershey hits with a heck of a lot yeah you think going out a lot of the time he could imagine a line empires calling it out and then suddenly drops. It'd be great if she could have run sousse open and she goes out this amazing. Well quite sort of sad story really and she was denied denied her u._s. Visa for so how long it meant she couldn't defend washington title for it and she put it out on switzer. Which i think was quite smart because it didn't the u._s. Embassy embassy or something get involved and said we're going to say and she was always. What's been the key to <hes> playing so well this week since nottage said we'll get him a visa. Yeah doesn't offer help she. So many sort of nice touches like that to the story of villani. I mean her press. Conferences and interviews are and always have been an absolute joy. I haven't made and people have been sort of posting some of her best bits from the last fifteen years on tour on twitter <hes> and also she thanked story has akina tina in her speech yesterday because it keenan linter her coach yeah the week carlos martinez and yeah he's just coaching kazakina gina. 'cause that's not well. I need a coat kind of coq sharing him. Thank you thank you death. Show whatever it is you. We know why he was her coach for a long yes and communicate in spanish. She's completely fluent in spanish and she's also renamed finding nemo. Did you say that yes looking for name because she says he has a memory dory. Remember the name anyway leaving. Yeah i will forever be calling looking for nemo from now on she yeah i mean this might not work in podcast form but i- somebody retweeted a a transcript tremendously she did <hes> a little while ago during wimbledon actually this year and she just so fantastic -ly honest. What do you were wha wha what are you happiest. She said when i win matches when i'm pleased to people i love my dog great top johnson. <hes> is that something you wouldn't mind mind being woken up for in the middle of the night an emergency then introduces other people told me they mind waking up for federal adult much. I said what i said this. They get. She's great. She's great value. It's great to have her back. Clauses dogs and sleep yeah sounds like hundred spirits right okay so that's the final of the women's tournament <hes> what else have we had in the men's tournament we had done medvedev funny winning gots the finding of washington and lost a curious more him later he got to the final of montreal and he lost founded al who didn't play cincinnati and then you had this this run for medvedev in cincinnati internati where you're wondering whether he's going to be on fumes. Is he going to have nothing left. You talked about him last week didn't you. You'd you'd been there on finals. Dan there was never a sort of flicker of the suggestion that that he wasn't going to go to cincinnati or that might be tied for it or whatever and we fast forward. He gets through to face novak jackovitch. Now i saw the first i point of this match and i thought jock itch just looks in the most perfect form a even just in the first point everything was coming out of the center of the strings and he he went six three three games. All love sergio medvedev served by this time. I was asleep. I i couldn't stay up that late because you now. I'm a i'm david lewis experiencing school holidays aches and and then when i wake and just watch it back and i saw something in medvedev i've never seen before now. He says he's done this throughout his career i if if he's not winning by going toe to toe playing his consistent brand of tennis then he will serve first and second serves with a i serve and just go for it now. I'd never really noticed that before. Until this match loves thirty he suddenly stopped bombing down one hundred twenty five mile all in our second serves like curiel so philipoussis would and making them and he just ripped the match out of jerk of riches hands well as jovovich pettit. He played really. Let anyone which i mean it. It's not necessarily wrong i think i think there's more motoo it than that. It was a fantastically escheat tactical change. I don't understand why that tactic is not deployed more often. If you're being crushed on your second serve what is there to lose by by going for it you know if you start to sort of i think he was at thirty. Five percent points. One on the second serve is and if you're serving first-serve percentage higher than that it's a no brainer surely and i asked danny eller but she said he is just courage. She said quite often thought will cross your mind as a player in you think that's probably the smart thing today and it's just so counted where everything your everything your muscle memories telling you today that you just can't quite bring yourself to actually action it but not to know member of he's. He's got real real. Characterize knees go so much about him. That's that's good and i mean that's a signature move. Now isn't it nick curious. Has the ask people these are. The signature moves of which more to curious is the asked people in the crowd where i should serve serve and medvedev's got the hundred twenty five mile per hour a second serve ace scrape love it i think i think the danger with that tactic is that it could get even worse if you did. If you start missing your second serves one hundred thirty miles an hour <hes> <hes> it's it's going to go downhill extremely quickly and you'll get into almost look a bit like your tanking in a way if you're just doing that and getting it wrong but to have have the courage to do it and get it so right was what i thought was impressive but it did kind of leave me thinking and that phrase from cavicchi played roulette anyone djokovic would back himself to play his style of tennis and performance a high level over five <unk> sets and he will also trust that medvedev can't keep it up over five cents and that's that's almost what the big three of dumb they take you out of your comfort. I'm i forced you to play away which is high risk and let's not forget though jockey rich has also got his own other gear his own roulette wheel he didn't have it on cecil saves it now but think about it when he's backed into a corner. Jock itch is when he often will shock you. You don't see it coming. He and i agree with everything last saying federal and i think that's why why he didn't sound too concerned by the loss on saturday on saturday night he really he just sort of shrugged it off and said i mean the subject seemed to be good. Luck buddy yeah. He just very accepting of it ready considering how simon reed described it and commentaries that that he's been mugged is how it felt he was he was absolutely sublime. Jackovitch and total control medvedev wasn't playing badly. He was just not not able to get close to the world number. One playing in his obsolete pump medvedev cools the trainer then received some treatment for what hannah wilkes onto it described as acute lack of by set my favorite thing ever it was amazingly. The train actually touched his arm and he went how exactly what i would say they made eight me. Ponder on how rare bicep injuries in tennis never see people get treatment anyway so there. He is getting a light light proud to his boss no enjoying it. It's all a other than suddenly everything changes so i i mean yeah. I can't remember what my original point was. I'm just thinking about whether i can think of any other bicep injuries whenever the vice boys up injury. I have not done myself if that's because it's robust part of the body or whether it's because it's not particularly significant parts of the body for tennis from the acute line saying yeah. He said that he said after the match that he was finding again is big talking point over the u._s._a. Series the heaviness of the balls was what was provoking the problems with his arms. Raffle wasn't happy with the heaviness of the bulls in awesome got an elbow issue. Exactly everyone is really unhappy with the bulls that he used at the <hes> during the series in there of course different balls to wilson ones that he used the plane where it is weird. Isn't it and it's a it's a deal that's been done but you can understand the players not being happy and i think it's changing next year. Is it okay great so i think they're going to be. There's going to be consistency of balls during the u._s. Open series in the u._s. Open but it does seem like i mean obviously we're. We're kind of outside is in terms of tennis tennis tennis ball but then not just see madness so they don't use the same ones kind of around the year swing like that yeah and if you know pundits and players seem i'm pretty much in consensus the it's fairly significant factor and it is a big caveat when when you're trying to analyze form and favorites and people that may or may not be in the mix going into the u._s. open when we're trying to discuss that in the the g._d._p. Every every time greg would say yeah but remember the bulls bulls are different than us a big thing particularly if it if zip if the conditions the heat and humidity become a factor say it's annoying. There was a mad moment in the women's final where they played a game with the men's bowls roles because the man is the men and the women have different balls and they knew booze and they played a game with the wrong ones and qs but i think he's noticed and it went down on the other end and these are the ones and an sat where i missed that is that's bizzare and there was a delay hey to the men's final because the net they couldn't find it was broken net superb feeling oh really well in the curto. The raring to go plays a close going back into the locker room. Yeah tennis run appalled ovals replaced and the pulse is who. Do you expect. We'll have the better u._s. Open roach ephedra or ordonio medvedev well. I also this if the pundits in the price g._d._p. Because greg reside ski went big on on <hes> federa related u._s._a. Predictions he went big early of course federal one match in cincinnati against one on dairy. They've looked looked as good as he needed to be. Then lost his second match to andrei replay brilliant andre rebe level has to be said and he said a tough tough time and i'm pleased to see him on the way back but it was his quickest lost sixty minutes since two thousand and three sydney two thousand which which she's an extraordinary stats so i asked greg is roger federer in the mix for the u._s. Open you know just the way she starts to brunch in the mix out to other outlets actually drop it in now. Hey it works as a pundit device because punchy greg said no roger federer. No he asked a clarification of the mix he said in the mix to reach the semifinals. Yes i said no greg the mix equals win the title and he said yesterday when pressed further on on on the mix and i asked him whether medvedev was in it and he said he eh tentative. Yes kevin so vast you too. What do you think is medvedev in the mail. I'm asking you who is going to have better use open at a roger federer and dynamic of got results six hundred volts so far not live talked about this and we think the draw for roger federer is incredibly krisha because he's essentially going completely cold is an esa. He needs needs a kind few opening rounds to play himself in. I think he's going to be susceptible. Quite early on you looking at me like we haven't seen the draw the idea that roger federer how many times this one at five times won it for eleven years he having come to women having had match point against novak djokovic having won twenty grand slams is not in the mix to win title. This year is absurd. It's ludicrous. He is i agree the me. He's in the mix and he is and if you ask me and i'm going to ask myself use open six hundred people a year well. You're only allowed to have allowed the vote vote and actually for a long time. It's fifty to forty eight which i found very interesting. Now it's fifty five federal forty five. I would say federal every time because wonderfully as he's playing. He's just totally unproven at that level and he. I don't know what he's gonna do have a best of five <hes> coming off a run like this. He's never done it before. He's he's a builder. I think medvedev and the next step from winning a masters for him a._m. I don't think he's winning a slam. It's doing better outer slammed and he has them before he's never reached. The quarter-final at a slam would probably expect him to do that now. That would be that would be a next step for him but i mean i think people are reading way too much into federal cincinnati loss and then to be honest. It's very hard not to end up reading too much into these events where we've got nothing else we didn't. That's the promise date if he now had a number of years to read into if he now had another event into play before the u._s._a. I wouldn't be worried about him because it's a weekend isolation. What i worry about is in going in cold. I do agree. I think think needs you need a kind couple of rounds but i think chances are get that. I don't see a huge number of floaters. Who was the last time he really struggled in early rounds. Will it was fourth round against john. Millman shows i mean i think i think he's an less summit. Change between now wimbledon. He's in a way better place and he was a year ago. I think physically mentally hustle not mentally we there are still still question marks about wimbledon wimbledon hangover surely and i think he sixty two minutes david. I know i just i just think he's gonna play best of five set matches matches early on the open so he can get zion he was i mean i think the conditions i would actually think are something we probably have have to consider because of the way he lost last year the state of him i mean i've never seen cool things sweating bullets and he looked so ill look like an old man in in that match so that's the one question i would have as well. I think he's talked about that since i put the roof on ash he's not a huge fan of those conditions anymore. It's kinda sticky not in halton and also i think he schedules his year now to peak for wimbledon i think i think he always has but particularly in the last few years commend last year and i feed before the the u._s. Open was always the priority this year like like our light yeah yeah. That's daybreak media day u._s. Open last year. He said u._s. Has been ten years since i won this one. This was always a target this year. <hes> okay i mean he might just have been saying that stick kevin anderson at wimbledon and it was a way a mentally of trying to get over. That must've been very heartbreaking loss but i did find interesting the time okay well. We'll have a lot more of this sort of chats when we do our draw retrospective on a saturday is medvedev. The one of the twenty three see the full next-gen enables. I mean say next gen. Is he the one you would have going furthest the u._s. Open probably i still i still am such a massive believer in sit surpass that i think that he can put together but i think he is just sheduled himself in a way that is starting to hurt him. Now alexandra burke's four favorites favorites ridiculous. I think ex-pm ball state thank miss the next field reminds me of zverev at the end of last year would that serve and the groundstrokes and it's like he's just suddenly become him and it's very very the last player outside of the big three big four to have a run similar to whatever that's just had except he did it last year on the clay in the build-up to paris but never felt like it would be transferable to paris because you've gotten the dow was it does the u._s. Open has been the the one where people have kind of muscled in a bitch pop tro wherever incur <hes> but by my own definition of the mix i dot com put medvedev in it so you make two three mr picker center at sorry who's definition mixes. You wouldn't be surprised if he wanted. I still would be surprised method then won the u._s. Open it feels like such a big deal to take. I think definitely not next gen but team. I would still possibly have as potentially doing better than medvedev things done nothing. Though i mean i really i totally understand when i when i was in montreal nice saw the way he spoke about winning in kitsch bull. I mean i still think he's probably still lying in bed at night. Cuddling that trophy. I mean it means means everything to winning catchable. I understand why he's played there and played on clay at two fifty of the wimbledon but i really think that hurts tim. I really do and i don't know how he's gonna. He's obviously never gonna not play kitsch bill for the greater good of tennis. I wish he wouldn't but but i do understand but he's done nothing. I just feel like the best of five sets medvedev could just get bullied out of matches and worn down by char rachel. Someone the people peak these things medvedev's kind of having the year. I thought church might have i last year. I thought church will be the one i'm to kinda step out especially on hardcourts but he's had a lot of injuries and struggles but medvedeva's kind of filled that void i think i just think team i back over five sets physically more than i would probably meant for them and i think he likes those records. That's what made me say david throughout on our kyrie optimists chant which has not been carry optimistic this week swift. Who do you think thank is did use the term next gen david. How did you put your brother said this did he. <hes> who who who who night it pulls you also grows ever says so much he would go with the next new mail kwan on slim chance to do that. Yeah you did that on twitter as well as we go. Along materials running around ahead arrive at the first name that sprung to my mind was hatching off. I know blind because of the best of five sets thing. He's the most physically capable. I think i suppose siaka team. He is sorry. Next-gen was not in the question so yes you allowed to gate team. Teams only ever going to win the french open so mukundan one indian wells he can play on a hawk. He knocked federal off the grand slam after indian wells. How's miami dade because i really yeah. I'm just rehashing just said but the run into the u._s. Open doesn't what for him. Let's explain what we're not carry optimists anymore. Curious played a match a few nights ago. Who is he planning planning and he was a setup. He was i think he went five four up in the second set as well he had i think four three and loves thirty at one stage stage on hatching of serve all everything was going swimmingly now of course when catherine should really be on this podcast because she declared that she was not going to be on it unless she got see curious or else against jockey rich and so we're basically waiting for curious to just tidy up his final game and setup chocolate against curious didn't happen for some reason curious started to get annoyed at his perception of when umpire murphy was starting cutting the shot clock when he was serving after a serve and felty was murphy was doing it way too quickly he didn't get worn for a time violation at this point but but it really rattled them really got and wound up and he just started having it out with vegas murphy in a one sided dialogue which just carried on and carry on carry on ended up losing the second set curiosity went off the court saying that he'd gone for a bathroom break but he didn't go for a bathroom and break you went into the corridor just outside the court and he smashed two rackets into the wall. He then came back with those two broken. Wreckage threw him on the floor shouted out mm into the you're the worst effing ref ever <hes> and other sorts of comments carried on through with this process throughout the next four games which went to games all and then hatch in the last four games in nine minutes which probably tells you its own story in terms uh-huh those particular fats as curious was coming off the court he shook hands with hatching of walked towards fergus murphy and said you are an effing nothing tool bro you can fill in what would i've left out and he said a spat into the air not on to the empire in his direction at which point he got given the following day a fine of i think one hundred thirteen eighteen thousand dollars for six separate offenses thank you it was in the end several of them being unsportsmanlike conduct it caused asp aspen usual a lot of conversation curious since put up what is actually quite a funny clever little video showing the time he takes between says ebbs and the shot clock running compared to the dow and one of the big gripes he had on the court was an down gets treated differently in the plays a completely different sport and it's not fair <hes> sorts o- say many thoughts <hes> well oh. He behaved appallingly. Didn't he behaved appallingly. He is <hes>. I mean yeah. What else is the say. What are you what else to say. He behaved reporting neil this. Everybody wants to package up their feelings on nick curious as a tennis presence into into a one liner. He's it's good for tennis. He's bad for tennis. He's he's appalling. He's electrifying whatever he's not. He's all of those things things he <hes> he can be on aggregate good for tennis and still have elements about him. They'll terrible for tennis and terrible for him. Personally and i mean i think there are i. I think there are underlying psychological issues which explain his behavior but they don't excuse it. I think he's really troubled. I think he's unable to do with. I think it's a reaction to winning in washington and the expectation then that comes with that i just i think he can handle anyone in his life having any expectations of lead elaine external people outside of his life but none of that excuses excuses the way he deals with it <hes> and turns it on tons on. It's it's one thing to it's one thing to tank. Thank it's one thing to to smash rackets and behave childishly. It's another thing to bouli somebody which is what he did to fergus mafia there incidentally not that it's hugely relevant but i think fergus murphy's been one of the most lenient on pose with him over the is he's always kind of had his back in troy to within the confines of the rules. I think that he's not been one of those. That's been strictly applying the letter of the law to chicago's which sometimes sometimes ferguson fergus is not somebody who's afraid to go back player. He's done it with a lot of players and actually we'd curiouser felt felt that he really has pulled back on that probably because he knows it can inflame him. He's managed curious really well over over the years and i think sometimes that can involve going a little bit more gently but yet to see him bully fergus murphy the way that he didn't. I'm sure fergus fee can handle himself in his in crying himself to sleep over it but that's that's not the point. It was no sti an unpleasant didn't an entitled and and rightly punishable by the biggest single fine. He's had today a believe the considering bring further sanctions. That's going to be very interesting because if he were to receive a ban it would apply to labor cup labor caucus now in a._t._p. Cheapie sanctioned event curious is a big deal in labor cup. They've already announced him. They've already put his name up in lights. Federal is invested in the labor cup. This is when all of these factors little nuances behind the scenes in the mechanisms of <hes> tennis governance come into play and this'll the the aban point necessarily have any impact us. Oh he's been he's been banned before has an he was in two thousand sixteen. I think not you received a suspended ban. It was mandated that it have to seek sports psychologist did all that nothing's changed the highs getting hi in the laser getting lower than that's that's well put actually <hes> and he when all this was going on you. Get the inevitable as you could tennessee about conversations. I should not just i'm just totally bored because i care i don't care is good for tennis and not in that particular moment. He went and abused a man just doing his job to his face ice and that was inexcusable. You can come up with anything you like that is not on not okay and i i found very interesting interesting to listen to the interview that andy murray conducted in which he's quite happy to say. He's he's. He gets on well with niki sees. He's a lotta things from his perspective. We like semi wants to wants a good things for him but that was not okay the way treated fergus murphy on that occasion and he said in his words yes. I did not enjoy watching that third. That's exactly how i felt all the way through it all the feelings of joy that you get from watching curious above and everybody else because he has this wonderful gift of connecting with people and doing things that nobody else can do but he also has a way of depressing you when he he behaves like that and i think the problem that authorities have is you can't. I don't feel you can take into account. What's the good things he brings to the game aim. When your adjudicating over something like this you have to look at the offense and you can't say to tennis but he's good for the game in other ways. We can't be done no. You've got to make the right decision and he needs to and the people around him need to be out of find a way to get him to be his best self. More often <hes> in order to handle it or not is alternative is to not and therefore ought to keep having these incidents on just not be relevant. It's so often empires kind of getting going seems to have a real problem with authority and you mentioned that social media posts. There's no there's no hidden of remorse about mature. I mean he had completely elite fergus murphy and i just imagined now the umpires at on how it works i get the wrote a monkey going into work and knowing that you have to deal with this kind of nasty colleague every all the time it must be soul l. destroying and there's not hint of remorse he felt wrong. He didn't seem to accept the heat done anything wrong but but i do think the way okay the twitter and social media just explodes whenever something to do with curious happens. It's almost like tennis can't really handle him because as you say like so. Many people want to have a categorical definitive view on curious. It was like you hear a lot of people say oh you love or you hate him. I don't feel like that tall so so conflicted about him and yet you see people on twitter. Put out things like oh. It's fine. It's curious. He can do what he wants or. It's cares he's terrible. Double people seem to have this black and white view. I don't really get and i don't think works with someone like carriers. You have to kind of try to understand and you can't just box him and package him and you talk about him in black and white terms. I wonder if i been pondering on whether that's a social media thing whether that would have been the case before sation meteoroid whether it's this whole hundred forty characters thing encourages us to want to have these easily package -able black and white vs about people is just so not applicable to the you end up books in a corner wanted that your your watch what happened in washington and you think that's brilliant. That doesn't mean you're not allowed or able to criticize what he did insert. How can you not criticize what he did. In cincinnati this week he spat in phase of a colleague league. He spat in the face of a collie literally in his face but in his direction yeah i mean there is no scenario elsewhere in the well but that would be behavior that we'd considered undefended and he he might say well. Yeah i mean the world wherein everybody's got an opinion and everybody throws a man. I mean look thirty years ago. This would have been big newspaper type headlines and he wouldn't necessarily have a clear right to reply the way he does with his one one point two million instagram followers so there are pros and cons in that regard what what was interesting is in terms of what he does now on some we've had last year the u._s. Open his incident with muhammad lonnie which led to lonnie being laid off matches when lonnie was viewed just being too sympathetic visually on court and almost talking him through his his fun concord and that being inappropriate create and and and then we've had this e._s._p._n. Documentary about the serena williams against the umpire <hes> that has just launched over the last twenty four house and a lot of discussion assure an article in the new york times saying that serena won't be umpired use open by carlos remorse because of that incident and it got into a discussion point about is it appropriate for players to request an empire doesn't do their matches and how does that system and work. I got into a little bit of a discussion with rennae stubbs. The former doubles world number one and a very good commentator these days somebody who who's always interesting to listen to. I didn't agree with our on this particular situation i mean. She said that she'd three times. In her career. She ahead requested over the course of twenty two years. She requested that an empire not do matches and that that had been granted and that is absolutely correct in her have you now. I think that that is i think it's fine to ask do not think that should be granted personally because i think that opens a precedent for for anybody the parties to to say i've got a problem with an empire and where do you draw the line my understanding and this is from a few years ago when not necessarily official but my understanding was unwise had a no list a list of players. They not necessarily an immovable no list but a list of players. He's much is they wouldn't be put on for whatever reason not necessarily as requested by the players just because of previous incident saw and grow unpleasantness didn't notice anything. I didn't think i didn't realize that it was the case that plays could just request request not having umpiring matches and i think what strikes me as on most uncomfortable about that sessile if that is the case ace is the quite obviously. There's going to be a power imbalance. Serena williams request not to have certain empire and have much no one saying no rebecca peterson requests note seven empowerment have much. It's probably not going to be treated with the same gravitas and that isn't fat fatten up in in touch with molina who's a former grandson final chair empire and also head of officiating at the national tennis federation for for a a number of years these days. He's he's an agent to people like feliciano lopez. Somebody we know well. We've had him on the podcast last year actually after the u._s. Open incident would serena and connor shreve awesome. That's still available to listen to. If you'd like to listen to music. I asked him players. Requesting umpires not to cover them choose. Should this be allowed. He said i know that the a._t._p. In the past allowed that but i've always tended to disagree instead is best to enforce the empires no list by which the empire themselves selves put down the players that they have had a recent big conflict or issue with like that you will avoid unnecessary controversy right from the start. I asked him whether he'd ever received in the sort of abuse that fergus had taken and how he reacted because i mean. I don't think i could stand there and take that i have to say something back. I'm not going to be spoken to like that and i also think and i'm certainly not trying to go hatching off here but i think if i heard somebody speak to somebody else like dad i would have to intervene. Don't think i could just stand there and ignore matching how dreadfully that would have gone. I understand i understand it could could go make inflame the situation and all that sort of thing. I don't think i could stand there and watch that and rick said i only saw bits of the match of been many heated arguments but but don't recall any as such sometimes i had fired back to plays but so to speak he said normally umpires a trained not to take things personally and on shoulders it is a psychological game in the end where you definitely want to ensure that there is mutual respect and within certain limits the keys to play one card at times the whole situation it doesn't blow up but the end of the day if the player decides to go over the line the code of conduct is there to help i also asked him about the situation situation with regards to to cash not doing serena williams matches and what his thoughts were about that he said. I'm not sure if carlos had umpired serena last year but i don't think it would be the right place to make a comeback. He should definitely do how matches again not just because he handled her extremely difficult circumstances as well on that day but also because he's one of the best umpires but taking into account the other that there are other top on pies that can do ashes in new york and diffuse any unnecessary drama and controversy. It's probably best that he doesn't do much there yeah because that would be the story. Wouldn't it and i think that's fair on him. As much as anything say that make that makes sense to me you say the players views on whether an impassioned she met them at she should be heard and referee should analyze what may have happened in the past but you know you. You can't have players just determining joining whose i'm trying to think in football you can't just get a team managers and referee during my i would say with foes murphy and curious curious situation that could have been anyone that he he needed that is all about carriers and he needed something from from happening he we needed something to release the absolute mess if psychology that is happening <hes> <hes> in his mind and body and he found the nearest host being on which to project that and it could have been anybody it could have been a set of white towels as it was in montreal that he took it out on the white towns. It's it's all about what's going on inside the unfathomable brain nick curious <hes> yeah yeah look forward to him during jackovitch round of the u._s. economy. That's going to be claimed. I know you've got to win to write it could happen in round full good. He's getting these. Two key. Pella around born isn't just just one quite what final thoughts here today is on the subject to bianca andrea skew who didn't play cincinnati and we actually had with a handful of responses from from our listeners who weren't happy with that description of hers as a drama queen quite interesting and feel that we we're a bit too hard on her. I personally don't feel it was said in a negative fashion. I say site affection really. I like the fact that she's she's just not bothered. People think we like drama. David logs agro grade school hands and back cans can bestow no greater honor politically. I suppose what we're saying is. I must like pantomime agra because i didn't enjoy without from curious dylan is that was an idea. That was just nasty. Yeah <hes> i might say his medvedev being is relationship relationship with surpasses and saying those relationships and then during that a._t._p. Cards against humanity yes which is great hashtag content. It's really really great. I think that demonstrates is you. Give you give team trump's not to say anything. Take it also in that the clippers meals row niche lossing and if oh yeah shake that he did it. The monte-carlo player party tangas my eyes stick. That's ten years old of quite a few years old. I caught like sort of dark horse gets it and i really want a bag. If you wash right right we present for it just kept watching the clicks. I'm like corey doing the that drop a it. Did you see that video. I think it was at kings island the brilliant theme park just across the road from the family tennis center in cincinnati but yeah it was just kate nishikori in some sort of harness just as a countdown three t one on there's a kind of noise suddenly the floor opens and he drops through it never to be seen again until what menaj eventually with some symbolism there okay anyway he'll be back as part of the draw is in the mix. He's on <unk> boat dino. He'll be at the curious. His knee thing by the way is his name. Andy murray is no matter if you notice that or your best ball heap deeply in love steno medvedev so we've got a we've got curious and sit surpass houston used to hate one another or curiosity serious sunnis to not like sits pass and now the best buddies we've go curious and curiosity who i mean as far as i can tell. It looks one way traffic to me. He just is sort of in love with a anthem and then we've got the new member evan stephanos sit surpass he he didn't get on a tool and we will go to the mall and on a private jet together from washington to montreal. It's pretty yes reality reality t._v. They're running rings around even a even before this week when we were watching <hes> the first round of montreal would curious i was watching it with my wife and she sort of vaguely what she's tennis from foreign listens to what i've got about it and she said slight reality t._v. Isn't it an that that is exactly what it is but anyway which some breaking news for you something lane stevens tweeted two minutes ago after much thought at ben tennyson nisa is is who is active on twitter of lecture we say outspend tennis and i have decided to go separate ways changes which is never easy but i'm so appreciative of our time together onward exclamation mark. I wonder what say free to take a job on the u._n. Any other places peacekeeping. What did you think you might like today with the time he probably find another takes. Men full fill in the blanks site called the humanity. He's he's being arguing a lot with lots of people about stuff including likes that he's so right. We've got another tennis podcast coming your way in a couple of days time and is a big interview with the former coach of of several of the best players we've seen in the last thirty or forty years larry stefanski and he's somebody wanted to interview years because he was also always so entertaining entertaining as catherine shows me a picture of mary having a chat on twitter donor what that's about but he looks happy <hes> and in fact andy murray is one of the people that tried yeah to get larry's defiantly as his coach on two separate occasions which i asked larry all about and why he didn't do the job also spoke to him about what it was like working with a man that was headlined the most hated man in tennis aka marcelo rios <hes> when he was world number one what you have guinea kafelnikov was light to coach when he got into world number one and australian open glory and olympic glory as well andy roddick fanatic gonzales zano is john mcenroe. These are all players that larry stiffen coach. We talked about all of them and it's just i found i find it to be a great fun fun interview nothing to do with me. It was him he just one of those characters that once he starts talking you just can't stop listening and that's coming your way. I reckon on wednesday afternoon so keep your eyes open for that. We will then be back with our first of our daily tennis podcasts from rushing matters in new york catherine and i will be there catherine today announced as the presenter of amazon prime videos coverage in the u._k. Over the next couple of weeks looking forward very much they mary carillo also on the team. Yes slighted verizon the team which means we get another podcast fantastic private. I also got jerem mackinaw. Tim henman martina navratilova fantastic group of <hes> former champions pundits people that <hes> that you'll be hearing from if you're in the u._k. With catherine presenting so that's all good and we'll have debbie podcasts for you have to play every single day from the bar no doubt and catherine and i just just sort of picking ourselves up from a day of coverage the bbc radio five live as well <hes> so we can't wait for that have missed anything else will murray a space phase but he doesn't play till midnight tonight. Disney stranding winston salem rossi's first ever trip to winston salem. I think it probably is north carolina unless unless he just went there for a holiday outing tennyson grin midnight tonight yes okay well. We're watching that <hes> we have brought you in association with the telegraph gopher executive produced by tennis balls dot com mascot is rio with a wide. The rain starts so i'm making a dash for the car before the next storm comes in head head of the u._s. Open if there's anybody you think might be interested in having listened to a daily podcast where two or three people talk about tennis every day. Let them know it's one of the hundred best focused in the world officially sort of yes according to the mail on sunday magazine <hes> what was it. What were we called <hes> hundred podcasts. You must hear something like that. Wasn't it most addictive yes. That's what it was and your evidence wildly popular yeah wildly popular. That's what we call. I'd like that on my headstone. Okay all organized. That's accessible suspects became became before giving my gray hair and where we really the the content cincinnati where they were asking that plays. What did you get told off as as a kid and they will giving really funny rolling rolling three fields of wheat and they got to sit surpass and he said i got in trouble. I was meant to be looking after my my brother at the beach and he disappeared and they thought you think kidnapped suddenly only got so dark. I didn't realize this more this stuff every single day. Could you want donald is every day every three to six yeah uh-huh.

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Ogre-Alla-Ass-sim-Oh Forget It: AO Preview

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Ogre-Alla-Ass-sim-Oh Forget It: AO Preview

"Right now on pat rafter arena. Bans singles action lays welcome from canada. Dennis schell aren't fifty six seeds twenty felix or go out felix ogre a assam. Hey and what. I think that's it. I don't speak french. But i think that's it. That was wild this poor man. He's become famous on tennis twitter. No don't we talked about the dude who did mispronunciations No this is not a poor man. This is the man who did not do the work he needed to do. It wasn't just phoenix. He butchered many many names last night. It was a complete trainwreck. Actually i will say this. When he started off with the woman's draw. I was like okay this. I'm actually kind of surprised at how quickly he's going through the names without too many problems and then boy did that. Train them anyway. Welcome back to the body surf. I'm jonathan and i'm james. The australian open draws out. We are most of the way through these warm up tournaments that were cobbled together to get players some matchplay ahead of this bizarre australian open. People have a lot of thoughts with what's happened in tennessee last couple of days. We'll get into that a little later on but for now let's take stock of where we are with those warm up tournaments as of recording. Most of them are in the semi final stage. The grampian trophy started a few days later to help out those players. Who were in the hard lockdown. And they're currently playing their quarterfinals. So some of these results are going to be out of date by the time you hear them. In the yarra valley classic the wpa five hundred tournament. Ashleigh barty is now into the final. Because serena williams withdrew from their semifinal in the other semi final ruth versus vandross uva muga. Oh my lord just beatdown sophia cannon revenge for last year's australian open final is what she should have done back then. Well you're saying that as is all rina's army for whatever reason i tweeted this thing What one word would you use to describe that performance by maruto and i put three suggestions. I didn't let me to limit it to just those three but so many folks quote tweeted was like yeah a year too late. Y'all y'all cared that much last year warranty all the ones who didn't want to have a third slim and become more relevant. A williams fans tend to lake gharbia. When they're not when she's not playing venus or serena i think because she's you know she's so tough she she has this imperious nature about her. She feels like the real deal. She's got rhythm the country's yes anyway. That would that that took me out a low but those a little bit string but gardenia well prepared as she's much. Somebody could be be prepared in this but she looks in scary. Good form looks super fit vandross uva gets the semi. She did not have a great year after making the french open final. In what those way back in twenty nineteen not more than three short years ago more than three days ago you were in this living room telling me lau vandross uva is so lucky to still have what ranking oh right reverend senate's me not more short days because i saw her ranking and i was like oh really. She's still up there but She beats gracheva. Verizon arriva perot scott to get to the semifinals here in yarra valley the other. Wto five hundred the gibbs trophy. We got alexandrova versus kennedy in the first semi surprising results. Xiang tech goes out to alexandrova kanobi. I mean can beat anyone on any given day beats the monstrous saba. Linka who's been an absolute terror. Federal also clobbered simona halep in the quarterfinals and early reports. I don't know how much this is true. But earlier reports that simona was carrying some kind of back injury. I don't know for sure. I can sympathize with that. The other semi we had naomi osaka. Naomi has pulled out elise. Madison's goes to the final. She beats fiddling earlier in the tournament. On the men's side we have the maury river open the semifinal lineup felix. Oj seem okay. Oh i mean. I'm just excited. He their own pronunciation speaking of pronunciations. He'll be playing current in moot. Which is how. Mr muto pronounces it on the website it is. He has anglicized his name. They they're in one semifinal felix of course aiming to make his seventh atp final in search of his first atp title sense and inserts of his first set win in an atp finals. So let's let's keep is on that. He saved a match point in his third round match against and then in the quarterfinals against vastly vastly had to retire dona set after losing the first set so felix against in the other semifinal. Donovan's plays jim. Chenevey gin at the great ocean road open a lot about him later. Running the show janik center will be playing current hatano in one semifinal and tiago monteiro versus throw value in the second semifinal. We talked about grampian. 's a thirty two player draw another wti five hundred I think the w did a great job of offering opportunities to players to get a lot of points to earn some money in this short week before the australian open it seems like whatever the wpa does they get criticized either from being a pushover or be incompetent or whatever but they threw together three or five hundred level tournaments sharing melbourne park with the men. And we're we're going to get into that later. Show were jumping the gun. But we've you know we've got soccer every kerber. The quarters concentrate has already made it. Through to the semis. Because azarenka withdrew brady credit cova and lee surani crew and how others atp cup. I'm having so much trouble keeping up with the atp cup at the moment. They're currently playing spanish playing italy. I believe public. Venue boosters playing a phony and in the other semifinal germany will be playing russia. Germany advancing after taking out serbia last night while i just assume serbia would be through to the final. Russia has an incredible team. I mean we got rube love and maggert veggie of the top ten. I'll can't even make the team on in singles enough. That's enough of that tournament for now. I want to minimize as much talk of a tournament as possible. Save for critiquing. It later on we talked about how garbin yet look so good at the are valid classic so far honestly quite a few of the top players looked very good in this first week and i don't know if that has to do with having more access to resources during this pandemic than other players Because mugabe rubio looked great. Serena looked great. Venus looked great they. They also normally have a very short time to do that. Serious training block and december either november december. And this year. The had a whole lot of time. They had basically the entire fall. So that's a big luxury to bring into austria. Four for anyone baidu. If you recall was an adelaide. She won through a matches unexpectedly. I was just kind of taking taking stock of who are the players who would have maybe had a little bit more at their disposal During this quarantine period in australia you promise twitter that you're going to talk about venus williams performance at yarra valley classic. She won a match. Lost match looked pretty good. She won her first match against lefty ons roofs. Every time i pronounce the name as per almonds goes pronunciation of the tape website. You stop me tell you just go back fourth time. It's happened just to be sure and in that match. Venus looked looked great. What i find. So impressive about venus williams at forty years old and try to minimize talking about the age as much as possible but in this context it has to do with starting her twenty seven. Th season on tour going through all the ups and downs of her career. Battling back from shogren syndrome learning to adapt that to her game and then learn to adapt what her game. Currently is just because of being older is her patients. How did how. I marvel at the patience to work through. Abbreviating your serve completely changing your serve changing the technique on your forehand. Deploying backhand slice is much more than ever because it gives you more time to recover within a point to get back into position. She's had to completely reconstruct her game to still try and compete at a high level. And i'm left wondering watching these matches feminine skyros. I'm looking across that. Yes that's been us williams but my god. How am i losing to afford. Carol woman gasping. Slower she's noticeably slower in court. She hits up the middle of the court a lot. More because like we saw with serena last year the last two years the more they hit angles and hit to the corners of the court is the more open up. A whole other side of the court for their opponent to hit to that. Expose their lack of movement The other thing that i've noticed from venus's kind of a and i hope i'm not being offensive insane. Goose kind of a rope. A dope element to her game. She clearly has the firepower to hit as hard as she still wants to. But there moments within matches be at her actual physical demeanor in court the way she kind of looks like she's going through slung. Let's it's a bit of a slot for her physically but it's more of a maintaining energy and focus and then when she needs to unleash something provided she's able to get in position to do it she'll still do it. It's no longer out aggression from ball one with venus. We've seen the evolution of that in the last couple of years. And i think hopefully where to place now where given good health given good rhythm. Good match practice some momentum. She's able to implement that winning way this year. What i saw through the first two matches not dissimilar mind you from what we saw in kentucky last year upon resumption. This is the one thing that gives me pause. Venus came out of the gate looking great in kentucky and then it didn't really translate the rest of the season. She came out of the gate here in melbourne looking awesome. And i only hope that she's able to get some matches win a few matches in her to keep this momentum going in the next round. She meets patrick data for only the eighth time in their careers. This is such a compelling matchup. Obviously we've seen some incredible matches from the two. They almost go to three sets. I think this was the first. That didn't yes. Prior to this match every seven all seven of them went the distance as petrous says upon winning. Venus brings out the best in me. And i think that can often be said a mutually they bring out something special in each other venus loves and what you see when these to play is an understanding of what's to come and thus from ball won. The intensity is at full throttle. There were points in that first set. Where petra was. Just looking around in disgust. Almost like i'm not about to lose to this old lady today and then the very next ball to she did that. She just clobbered it for a winner. And i'm floored that venus is still able to participate in a match of that intensity and that level for so long. Maybe that's sacrilegious to some to here but at four years old like i can't help but take that in and feel like this is crazy. The mattress was seven six seven five. Venus was up three one in the first set and at that point the momentum definitely shift because petro was was not really in rhythm and then when she phoned her rhythm. You're like wow. This titanic has been turned around. And i don't know what venus is gonna do. But she was able to do it. She steadied it. So much of that. Maj was venus withstanding petras pays picking her spots redirecting and somehow sticking around and then being able to give it to her when she needed to but when a court is fast yet like this one who is withstanding petras wide leftie serve. Venus has a lot of experience doing it right but it it wears you down even the best player different. Venus is that that serb become so much more effective against venus. Yes she still has the long wingspan to be able to get there in the back inside. But the reflexes are just a little bit slower and returns the ball. The entirety of the court is open for us there. There's nothing to court that fast. It's it's just a one two punch for petro. Yeah they get to the second set petras up four one and it looks like it's all over. I think i was in the dmz of a tennis twitter mutual and we were just resigned to what was happening and there she came. That's the other thing about venus. Williams even still the determination the grit and the belief to comeback from a sudden four one against patrick so venus gets back on serve and then eventually loses that much five it was high entertainment this the level shown in this match had. No business is happening. For petra's i much of the year in venus. His second match of the lucky was. It was a treat. One final note on venus. I've been going on and on about this. This far is just from the perspective of a fan and dealing with the emotional struggle of wanting to get number fifty. If you're still believing that venus can get another grand slam title after two thousand seventeen bat as well having lived through two thousand seventeen winter where to my mind. She was the best player. Untorn should have been the player of the year making to slam finals. Being a slow stevens backhand away from making a third final and then making the final of the championships on top of that. You have venus here. No three years later giving so much to still achieve her dreams that she clearly still believes in. It's just too much and as fans it's absolutely a burden to bear. It's a good burden but it's still a burden to bear. I tried to get to the point where i can just watch venus and just enjoy it and it's so difficult because it just feels like there's so much at stake still because she wants it so much still you have the experience watching patrick evita you specifically and you've put this on the agenda. I'm surprised you want to open this pandora's box now. But let's go there question for the listeners. As a preface is narrow player absolutely hit when they're playing your fav- but stand them every other day of the week. You can be out here rooting for this person and other day. Then when they're playing your for me the patrico you know. Petra is the sweetest. She's funny she has been through so much and dragged herself back to the top of the game. There is so much to like about petra. But when she is playing venus the screaming and the squawking dries both of us absolutely insane people out here give danielle collins hell for her screaming but listen patrick amenities not far behind. The difference is that y'all thought daniel collins was a muggle over and so it was okay to hate her for that and petro is the sweetest so you cannot hate her for that. There's there's a distinct double standard there the squawking maybe a little bit route. But the the thing is petra has built up so much goodwill and she's such a great competitor and sportsperson that like she's not beating your fav- it's so easy to love her. That's one point. The other point is that you can dislike the behavior and still enjoy the person you know and the other point is even further that the l. is objectively horrifying. It is indeed. Okay we got there. I think we should put it to bed now because we have some serious petrous. Dan's listening the schedule. This week has been killer if you live in the us and you have kind of a nine to five job so i. I've missed a lot. Unfortunately because after work in the morning. I woke up earlier this week to all these messages. About how serena is back. She is looking at incredible form. The best. I've seen her since two thousand seventeen and these were from you. I mean to be clear. I don't think that this necessarily means that. Serena will win twenty four this year. I think it means that. It's the first time that i actually believe that she can. And there's good reason for this. You're able to witness this when you watched her play. Danielle common yes. She opens against gavrilova. That's the match that convinced you that. She was in much better shape than we've seen. Her governor lower herself coming back from injury. Looked great in that match. Yet the result was still lopsided. Serena play piroska next who you know. They had a thriller at the us open and she beats her with the exact same score. Six one six four versus both gavrilova and peralta plays daniel collins who excels australia who will compete to the last ball and you know it wasn't perfect right like this is a warm up tournament. Serena was returning. i mean. The return was lethal incredible and there but there were also some mistakes right. She was having trouble on. Break points making you know some errors here and they're making some bad decisions on court. Which i think you expect in one of these tournaments those were minimal. Though in the in the big picture of the grand scheme of things. Those mistakes were minimal has a perfect match. The difference here compared to the last two years is most times when serena would would get into trouble on a serve may have tour three bad points within a game that would then snowball into something more deteriorate. going forward. That didn't happen in this tournament. She in her first match. She was done love forty and held serve. She gave up a break. Lead against daniel collins. There were other moments when she was clearly in the ascendancy and was pulled back a little bit by opponent and that didn't shake her. The reason why. I think this happened now is because she's in the best shape physically that she's been in since she's had olympia. This is the quickest. She's ever been since she came back after having olympia. And it's also the quickest. She's reacted to her point shots. She's anticipating better. Like i said earlier when talking about venus she hitting a lot to the middle of the court. That wasn't the case. This time you got the sense. That for that serena felt in complete control of whatever she wanted to do on court was just a matter of executing it in the past. You felt that there was this panic that was always lurking around her game. And i was felt that. That was because serena didn't have full trust in her ability to stay the course on court physically yup be it injury or not being in shape that she wanted to be in and so when the serb went awry the one thing that she can control on court that's when the panic really set him and that wasn't the case this week granted. It's a three-match sample. But it felt so starkly different from anything. We've seen the last two two years and again. I don't want to be here telling you that she's gonna win twenty four this year because mugerwa the might have something to say about that. Scouting may catch fire again so can may want to defend her title. I are so many ways usual. There are like fifteen women who could say no. No this is mine. Who can play at such a peak level for one. Day to beat serena or for two weeks to win the title. It doesn't mean that. But i think that we can actually feel confident. But barring injury serena has the full repertoire all the tools in her basket to win another grand slam except for the netflix. That is still atrocious. At one time it was really good a awhile ago but the children don't believe in sturt. We talked about how folks especially online have had a lot of thoughts about the state of tennis. The last couple of days and the reason for that is because the whole austrailian open machine halted on thursday wednesday night when a hotel worker in one of the quarantine hotels tested positive for covid nineteen. Yeah that must have created some panic in the leadership tennis australia. They reacted quickly. They cancelled play the the following day all the players had isolate again for twenty four hours. They had to have a negative test before they could restart so. There were no further positive cases. Australia's really you know. They're really serious about the stuff as we know but the players were allowed to go back on court yesterday so far everything's fine but can you imagine if if even a few players had tested positive that could have thrown the entire australian open into disarray. It could have jeopardized the tournament from even happening. If it got worse yes because the government was clear. The victorian government the premier daniel andrews made it very clear tennis. The australian open is not a priority. If we need to have this cancelled then so be it sorry. Riley poco was saying on twitter that he feels incredibly unwelcome in australia this year. And it's just kind of shitty situation. Listen rally appel. Went off in sony different directions yesterday on twitter and none of them were good. Look like he is entirely in the dog house. He earned a few brownie points for seemingly not being akin to the rest of his tree. Folk in american tennis. But this was this was not int- i mean the victoria government will probably agree yes. You're not welcome. We we grudgingly allowed you to be here and what of it. Who cares about your feelings in this moment so we we hope that there are no further positive cases that this one day lockdown was just out of an abundance of caution but what happened when that full day of play was lost the following day which would have been friday in melbourne. The schedule was gem pat because they're playing six tournaments six tournaments at melbourne park and there was serious rain in the forecast. So folks are out here crying sexism. All over the place about hold a schedule was made. And the i thought and i kid you not. I'm being entirely sincere. The i thought. I had when i saw this new schedule of play was while this makes a lot of sense because it wasn't just the order. Play was the fact that the w team matches going forward from the quarterfinal rounds to completion of the events would be played with a third-set super tiebreak instead of a regular third-set. Yeah i feel like you. You jumped the gun there. Why were people crying sexism. Yes you're right. Folks were upset because of the change. Why were the men not required to play thirds at super tiebreaks and only the woman and why were they all thrown onto this one court right all the women from the gibson tournament and yarra valley were scheduled on. Mca back back back. Back crazy schedule that day. Mca is covered court which is beneficial because it was raining. There are two other covered courts but guess was playing on those two covered grades. Atp takes precedence on the big court but all of them were on mca. They were playing a third-set super tiebreak. A ten point tiebreak. Or what do they call it. A twelve point tiebreak. It's a whatever i attend. It sounded like a great idea to me. This is i mean these tournaments that were literally cobbled together to get people practice. It was unclear for a long time. If the australian open would even go forward the majority of these players would not even be playing the week before slower. So that's a good point. You have draws with all of the top players. Most of the top players do not play the week before a slam. They're not gonna wanna play saturday or sunday final and have to start a slam on monday or tuesday. It just doesn't really happen so they decided to shorten the matches because they need to get through a lot of the ring because of the rain and because of the incredible number of matches to to get through you know a lot of the players are playing two singles matches in a day some were also playing doubles. It was an incredible men. The men were playing. Some of them were much as an incredible logistical challenge to schedule. All these things. I i mean i know that we you and i get mad about a lot of things that i'm sure people don't agree with but this is certainly not one that i'm gonna be wasting energy on because i think it was a sensible decision by the wpa even if they were asked by tennis australia. They made the sensible decision to shorten matches just to get through them and to encourage these players to actually get on court and play to stay in the tournament. Like do you to serena wanna be in as long third-set trying to get through against daniel collins. Probably not we've already seen serena. Osaka as a ranko withdraw. Serena was i the other two followed. These players are here to win a grand slam. They're not here to win. The gifts len trophy for me was a win win situation. The players still get to have a high density workout in maybe a an exhibition typesetting knowing that they won't have to push themselves physically that much. I've no much is gonna go more than two hours. Under this setup serena through three-set match against daniel collins in an hour and a half to me it seems perfectly fine because these are incredibly abnormally conditions. This is also a pandemic. Let's not forget that part normal way. We think about tennis any other year. Do it does not apply this. Go-round modern not normal leads to the australian open. Just because the clock struck twenty twenty. One were new year does not mean the pandemic is over. It still means that tennis is is is finding it very difficult to even continue on any sort of normal schedule and a lot of players haven't had covid nineteen Some players have had covid nineteen within the past several weeks. Like things are not normal. I'm now seeing people saying this is a bad. Look for the w. t. With these players withdrawing serena osaka and visa this is going to set a bad precedent. Going forward well no because they wouldn't be in this situation under normal circumstances going forward and they're they're not withdrawing from indian wells. Miami madrid like these are not big tournaments. The arguments set up to provide players. Matchplay points and money ahead of the australian open and dare i say in which ever order of preference that they so choose. We know why the top players are here if not for the money if somebody who is less around if alexandrova wants to go and play through till sunday night at midnight to get those points on money. That's more important to her than it would be to serena. Everybody is just trying to get through it right now not more than three short days ago. What is it it's It's mario make it happen now. More more than three short years ago. I thought you got it the first round no more than three short days ago the entire not just these tournaments but the entire australian open was in the air and right to go from that point on thursday to know saturday starting in australia and folks being well. Well how did we get two hundred so quickly without any critical thinking about well and then it's like well. The men get to play their normal length. Matches at the men also have to play best of five next week. And do i hear any any of the players complaining. I haven't heard a peep not one and we know if somebody had something to say they would have said it. Marta kasich would have gone on instagram. Live and told us which brings us to the atp cope. I am so enraged by this event. So you weren't you. Were mad about the last thing. But you're really really mad about this. Yes okay you have a lot of feelings about the atp cup. The atp cup was so lucky. Last year to have novak djokovic and rafael dot harry dot event it added gravitas in add meaning to the event this year. There's none of that. You just have a bunch of boys hitting a bunch of balls on court taking up space inconveniencing the entirety of the wto. That's all. I see what you are getting jovic. You got to joke. You're getting top players under normal. You're getting winning. It's very clear under northern new circumstances. Why this event is attractive to the atp and to fans you get matchups between top players that you don't always get these warm appointments before slams. I tweeted earlier in the week. I hate the stupid. Atp event it encroaches. On women's tennis the stakes are bogus. We don't need more jingoistic team events where men scream and yell like their war. We saw last year. How easy it is for them to get away with this hyper masculine nonsense anything else. We haven't seen much of that latter part this year. What we've seen is a fairly run of the mill uninteresting blah event while we did get it from jovovich shapovalov. I don't know what's going on between those two but jovovich was screaming and yelling. Gesturing toward shove all of box. This this this jovic in regular events so like this unique to eight. Gb this is not him. Defending serbia against the canadian imperialists world war one all over again see. This is why i don't like it right. We have davis cup. Davis cup exists. That's the event where you play for your nation. The rest of it tennessee's an individual sport. People are playing for themselves and so there are reasons why this tournament is not all bad like you said they get to brew it up with their fellow countrymen. The the men seem to really enjoy that anytime. They can get together with their bras. Have laugh whatever. It's good preparation. Because you get them at practice in but the stakes even though they wanted to think they're really high not and so if rafa needs to protect his body for the australian he can skip a tire to. He skipped i. I didn't play the second tie against greece. he won't play the semifinal. Maybe he'll play the final doubtful but maybe can pick his spots. Is what i'm saying so this tournament. What i'm saying is being presented a so much more than what it is it's given so much more prestige than what it actually is. And it's given the resources of an event that so much bigger than what it is and so when tennis is thrown into disarray having scramble in the middle of the middle of a pandemic to get this austrian open started on thursday who is asked to budge everybody but the atp cup who gets the sprawl out on two of the big show courts under the roof wyatt's pelting rain in melbourne and have all tennis fans including fans of the wpa fight against each other and tear down the wto break rallies. Men stay on playing the stupid of at fight the real enemy. Exactly what you're saying. No this is your portion of the episode right before we get into the we are going to do the draws i swear diana trumka update k. She appealed to lift her provisional suspension with the it itf denied by the independent tribunal. Then she appealed the same thing to the court of arbitration for sport they expedited. The decision in a week denied again. Now she's got to go back to the it independent tribunal and present a case. So we haven't heard the case yet. We don't know what sort of evidence she had to provide to the s. This was only to lift the provisional suspension. You know there hasn't been like a a real sentence handed down by the itf yet so this can be a fairly long process which is important. Because we've been speculating along the way and we clearly weren't as informed as we maybe should have been. Yeah maybe the information was an all out there. But we're definitely learning more about what this process is actually going to be. Have you ever read one of those like ninety page. Pdf's of the s anti-doping procedures. I two minutes no skimmed pages which will probably take me ninety minutes up way more I am clearly not smart enough to understand all of this but the next step is that diana is going back to the it of in the the claimant basically has to ask for a hearing. The burden of proof is on the party. Asserting declaim with her and the decision is made on a balance of probabilities. So it's not beyond a reasonable doubt. The balance of probabilities is is at fifty percent or more likely to have happened. And i'm not a lawyer. So i don't know who that actually will benefit in the situation. I don't know if it's helpful for her so we'll see the not playing in australia. That's the key thing. Do you wanna read some of her statement You know there's some stuff. I'm sad that cis dismiss my appeal. This part is the most interesting to me. I know my presence in australia has raised some concerns the urgent procedure with the it f. independent tribunal and the cas could have lifted my provisional suspension which would have enabled me to compete at the australian open. That's the reason why. I was allowed to travel there so for her. There was a legit hope that the provisional suspension would have been lifted and allowed her to play at the australian open. Because the hasn't come down with your bad for two years yet. She felt there was there was some hope she goes on to pip and says thus i intend to return all the expenses engaged by tennis australia on my behalf. the whistle. That's that's the right way to go. Mrs trump's go have a choice but but listen. this is getting of. The issue was bare prompt the day of the decision. She put her statement out. Said i'm going to. I'm going to take responsibility of these costs. Yes thank you godspeed before. We move onto some predictions and the draw. Let's talk about tony trabert. One of the absolute legends of tennis in the twentieth century. He died recently at the age of ninety in nineteen fifty five put together one of the all-time great seasons in amateur tennis winning roland garros wimbledon. And the us open winning the second and third slams without losing a set at a time. When not all the best players were on the amateur circuit. We covered that in one of her prior episodes but still an amazing feat. He would turn pro at the end of nineteen fifty-five competed on the pro circuit from nine hundred six onward and a pretty pretty serious rivalry with one hundred gonzalez as did pretty much. Everybody who played during that time and typically not a friendly rival as was often the case with gonzales. Traber won the french pro as you might know. There was kind of an informal series of pro slams at the time before the open era so he won the french pro. I think in the early sixties finished his career with ten slams altogether five singles five in doubles. He would go on to have a successful career in commentary covering both tennis angles for over thirty years. I did not know that he also was the president of the tennis hall of fame in newport for ten years and that was pretty recent up to a two thousand eleven. Like someone like bob brett who also passed away recently. Tony draper did literally everything in tennis every job you can think of. He had and one last thing. He was the last american man to enroll girls until michael chang in one thousand nine hundred nine the big gap and subsequent to that only to have done it. Correct jim courier under agassi. That's all i can think of. So many american men have won the french open. Say this probably should have happened on the previous episode or the one before that but we wanted to make sure that we have on record. What or picks are for breakthrough players of two thousand twenty one yet something that we do every year and then look back at it at the end of the year for a little bit of bragging rights well occasionally or some humble pie would we do. Is we break it into three categories breakouts in the top fifty fifty one to one hundred and one hundred one and above you remember last year. We had this big discussion about. What does the above mean does the above me. Actually below one hundred or one hundred my god i think we talked about this on a zoom call and people looked at me like i was so done. Okay on the atp side. Who are your players for breakout of the year in the top fifty fifty to one hundred and one hundred and above all right. So top fifty. I've got jordan thompson of australia. The next category. I'm looking at eighty f- alejandro Cooking who unfortunately has covert at the moment or had it so. I understand that a risky choice. Nobody knows what is year is gonna like. But i think he is just on the ascendancy and for one hundred and oneplus. We have the timothy chalet of tennis. Lorenzo musetti star the hometowns dr of the rome tournament last year. Mytalk fifty player. I think is physically ready to break. Haute alex demon are all right number twenty three. Currently then i'm going with carterton. New set number. Eighty the best rapper on the atp by a canadian mile a kilometer and then I don't know maybe two players that may seem like obvious choices. Carl economist at number one forty six and brandon neck ashim. Oh at one fifty seven. And i'm cheating. I'm going to there okay. Okay great picks. I think well thank. You usually do better than me at this on the wto side. I'll go first top fifty. I'm going with jennifer brady. I'm buying the jimmy stocks. I am going all game. Stop in on jennifer brady because i just think the sky's the limit for her. The the standard for breakout in the fifties a little different because these players have already broken out in a sense. Yes. you're looking at. What slam finals. Perhaps i in a way title last year with allison risk. I think any didn't quite happen. I thought maybe she doesn't get to the top ten. It's not always going to pan out. There's only a limited number of spots for people right fifty one to one hundred and going with leila fernandez at number eighteen nine fresh off another win over sloan stevens and one hundred and one and above. I'm gonna tell us at one. Forty four young danish player who won the australian open juniors in two thousand nineteen and with caroline wozniacki. No longer on tour. This this could be. I don't wanna say apparent but the the new head of dinge women's tennis for years to come okay for me. I'm picking daniel collins for a top fifty breakout. i'm bullish on collins. I really liked. What i saw against serena and she just be caroliina applicable this week as well. It could be the australian charm. She always plays. Well here listen. There was no yelling against sereno so and she could still fight without yelling. That's not where i'm going. I'm saying i think she had incredible reverence for ms williams. Yeah def and they had this moment a net afterward. I really wanted to know what was going on right. My pick for fifty one to one hundred and leave the young american. Come on come on. Yeah yeah that's all. I got as let's do it. She's doing it. She is on the come up and above the top one hundred we got. Were not as as well the mexican player who broke out at acapulco last year all right we shall revisit in however long this season lasts. We have arrived at the draw preview section of the show. I laid to skip to this. This and that's why we got show notes. We got line right you. can you got time. Stay not hurt. You can skip around. I don't know how extensive and thorough this is going to be. I would say this is being recorded at friday night our time. We're going to be doing a twitch saturday afternoon so look out for that. If you've managed to listen by now and if you haven't it'll be up for you to go back and watch it where perhaps we get a a little bit more indepth chatting about this stuff with your okay. It sounds like subscribe to my patriot. John and get a free. It sounds like i'm getting a little bit horse. okay. And i'm actually looking forward to the draw so i'm gonna win. Let's talk about the men. We start out novak djokovic. Number one seed on the top there against jim shoddy who's in a semifinal this week as he said this little section is full of american men frank tiafoe or stephanos traveling who is also in some you final this week. Yes tough right for francis would have to play novak in the second round. Then there's riley. Oh polka or taylor. Fritz so regardless i think three american guys are gonna be knocked out by by the third round. Listen it's not as bad as what the canadian men have to deal with. Oh i'm this. We got okay so stan. Wawrinka could face novak in round of sixteen. But he's got a rough road. Because there's footage there is moot and millman. There's row niche but remember stanford gut is a twenty twenty quarterfinalist at the australian open. I watch stunned. Play which of it in cincinnati on the grindstone and stan completely shanked the ball directly to the back of the court and i caught it with one hand. Fun fact fun fact. We still have that ball away. Standing me los are slated to play in the third round. Those guys were both quarterfinals. Last year milosz came in on an absolute terror. Played his first few matches an australia last year. Incredibly well we're like. Wow he he might have a real chance against novak. Straight-set meals always plays well in australia. This is this is his best time of year. In my opinion so the winner of milosz likely will play novak in the fourth round likely. So that's one bad note for canadian. Tennis their militias path is pretty blocked. Up gets it gets worse. The second part of the top half in the second quarter denis shapovalov. Who is he playing in the first round. He's playing jahic center. A debut taunt quarterfinalist last year at the french open. Now this is to say a tough draw for. Both men is under statement. And if you're looking like to monte cairo to potentially have a twenty twenty one with less screaming from finish evolve. This will not help right. This is gonna hopefully going to be a very exciting match. I'm depressed that we have to say goodbye to one of those guys after the first round and should dennis get through that first rematch. Who's waiting for him. Likely in the third round james felix ogre ali. Yes is that how. That's how it's pronounced allah. I think it's an all sorry. So if dennis gets through felix gets through they could meet in the third round. But i should say that i said center was a grand slam quarterfinal debutante so will shop of all of last year the. Us open the other half in that second. Quarter opens against man chill ledge and then kennedy corey opens against public at annual stuff. Know whoever gets through those two matches will likely play in the third round and public having your boost sta. What's a semi of the us open. Last year. a quarter and roland garros. Yes could contrary to what curious believes very accomplished on hardcore bright could play dmitrov in the third round. Could face dominic thiem in the fourth. I mean this you know. This is a pretty troubling quarter. But dominic thiem still. I believe is far and away. The favourite to get through his quarter-final opponent would be diego schwartzman and novak's potential quarter-final opponent would be out denver. Home he just beat in the atp cup in three sets third-set tiebreaker. I believe yeah so. That's the top half of the men's draw the two top seeds. in the men's top. Half our novak djokovic number one and number three dominic thiem bottom half we've got under rube love number seven leading off. He has a pretty smooth ride to the round of sixteen as a number seven seed showed in the other section there. My breakout picture thomson opens against number twenty four casper rude tommy paul's and their read it fave rodwell bots about easter. So you know. We're slated for a fourth round between ruby and bautisa hoot. Nobody wants to face roberto on hardcourts. Well nobody wants to play. Rude love on a hardcourt rhino unless you are somebody ranked higher than him which they learnt that many of them left now not so fast. Though because young leonard strove could be rb a second round opponent and stroke just beat lionsmitchell and roenick in the cup. That is not a guarantee for roberto. We've got born. George looking like a whole last snack in that kid orange and the blue color combination. Yep quite point george materials who curious seems to be struggling with some knee problems. So that's a big question mark. He does not look fit. No and that was a judgment you could make from. Before even took the court started to even mention him. he was in The second quarter. I don't think there's much needed to mention the words we skipped over him. I mean nick has done big things while injured before right but we're talking about. Somebody hasn't played any tennis competitively since since original lockdown in march and doesn't look like he's played any tennis bright time and we're talking about transitioning to best of five like i. I would be shocked if he gets past now. The david fan is easy to overlook but he is the thirteen seed he could definitely make the round of sixteen here in the other section crying and medvedja of are slated for the third round. But all of this is to say we could get a blockbuster russian quarterfinal between ruby and medvedev. I'd mentioned george where mentioned churches because he could play mackey mcdonald in the second round and then go far in the third round. That's the kind of innocuous matchup of two pretty good players that could provide some really good tennis. The winner of that would then play have in the fourth round. And so right you corrected. It looks kind of inevitable that it would be a rube love. Medvedev quarterfinal here. And how great would that be. I mean on this surface medvedyev. A lot of people believe he's the next one especially on harcourt's it also seems that you are not paying much attention at all to videos first match that you don't think that mr dp eight point two is gonna be much of all that strength. That is a very difficult first. Round against russia pospisil in the fourth. Quarter of this draw. This is where you have rafael. The dow and you have stefanos tsitsipas as a to highest seed. So they provided everything goes to form would meet in the quarter-finals that said nepal has been dealing with stiff back which has prevented him from playing in. Atp cup thus far there are two ways to look at some folks say like. It's clearly not a serious issue. He's just being super cautious. There's also way to look at it. That rafa is one of those players who buys into this team patriotic stuff hawk line and sinker and so if he's even remotely able to play he'll play. I don't know how much that's true for him at. This stage of his career certainly felt that way last year. Or maybe he feels that. Spain is incompletely capable hands with not struggled and public annual stone. Who knows right but you will be hearing a lot. About the state of russia's back. In the first week of this australian open motto bertini is still holding onto that number nine ranking and i feel like there are some questions to be asked of mateo. He could play stefanos tsitsipas in the fourth round. What are some of those questions is one of those questions. Why do you skip leg day. is that route. I like the dude is very tall. It's just how he's built a people love to go off about has cavs an objectify inside sidebar here. The dude is objectively very attractive. It's also objectively very distracting. Look at his legs. That's so rude. I just love his roman accident. I'm just going to say that. So curnow could play bertini in the third round or koch could play. See boston the third carlos. Al-qaeda's is playing his first grand slam. Main draw here not even eighteen years old yet. Kevin anderson opened against bertini. We also have my breakout. Picking the top fifty needing to do the body service work in the first round. Our renewed demon nar to put tennis sanger and back on that plane to the united states of america. Alex's third round opponent could be before meaney we were just literally watching the scores recording speed. Pcb six four in the third set and eighty cup earlier in the week. He lost to dennis novak of austria which was surprising. He beat ben while payer in a bizarre match as is to be expected. So you're saying is you couldn't glean from either match what the state of his formless. But funny de minaur as a third-round could actually be exciting right. I think it would be a really cute night match on route labor and i think either opponent for rafa nadal would be quite tricky. Frankly especially if you put this newly buffed up. Deeming are against an adult under the lights in melbourne right. Now at the bottom there there's roughing at all. Obviously of as the two seed. Dan evans could be his third round opponent. And it you know. I might have chosen dan evans for my breakout in the top fifty. I didn't because of like. I'm just not really a big fan but if i'm being totally honest i think he's. They're also keep an eye out for lassie caucus he's back actually able to play a main draw grand slam in australia. This could be really cute moment for him. He's opening up against suk-won in the first round the winner of that. Going on to play steph zukas overall. I think those men's draw is pretty balanced of course in that second quarter. There is some scary matchups early on but i would say having the russians city boston it all on one side versus having jovovich teams era of on the other. It's a. It's not super lopsided. I i would agree what i think is lopsided however is the woman's draw because one half is certainly not like the other and as we've seen in many many many draws in the past that'll probably mean that the the bottom half will implode right first perusal. There's some tough roads for folks travel here especially naomi osaka and gardenia mcgrew. Naomi saw that draw and she was like goodbye. Gibbs len trophy bad listen. She was quoted as saying that she is looking forward to draw that she likes playing top players. And she's not not in the least bit maude by it on the top. Half it's headlined by at bharti who is into the final of the valley classic and in the second quarter of the top half its headlined by the defending champion sony canon. I would say bharti has a pretty clear path to at at the very least the quarterfinals. There are a lot of question marks here for me. Hold up girl. She possibly has alexandrova on-drove in the third round ashore shore. But that's that's a twenty nine seed even if alexandrova has been playing. Well that's to be expected for for seed right. I think birdie has been playing well this week but of course. We don't really know what to expect in a grand slam scenario in australia. We saw her make the semi finals last year. And probably lose a matter. She should have won against sony canon. And look what happens well. Is it dr. Venus falters at ashphalt. Whose fault is a lot of people have to share the blame seven to be exact right in the in the next section. There's an at contemplate. Who was a quarter-finalist last year. One that i'm really interested in. Is this potential. Second round between petra. Marge and shelby rogers. I think that's a huge huge upset alert. I rogers is playing very good ball last year. Since i see rogers getting through at least that to the third round and possibly to the fourth belinda bench. Another big question mark. How is she playing. She's been away for awhile. Elise a mountains could play benches in the third round. The unseeded spell on a cruise net silva is starting against barbara streets of to were to oldies two fan favorites to goodies Salama is actually just out of ceding territory. She's in the thirties. And you know her. She can turn it on at random times but look at that so you got bench opening against lauren davis to play the winner of cuisine silva and streets of right that that little section there whoever comes through that one of those four players will likely play the winner of eliza merchants and layla who in the first round. That is a very unfortunate. I trump for both woman Fernandez is fresh off beating sloan stevens for. I think the third time. Another one of this canadian tennis renaissance tenure collins. You said that you're picking her to breakout. She opens against anna bugden. I saw bogdan play her second match against ash barton and while she lost six three six three i came away from that match needing to look her up and subsequently wonder how does she not have a. Wj tightly yet she's got a lot of talent. And this is the state of the wto through the the men's draw and there were some unfortunate first round matchups but once you get past doors. The second and third road is is smooth sailing for a lot of these men. Whereas there are minefields all over this. Wj draw at this point to me. It feels like it's getting better or worse depending on how you want to look at it because we have so many women reentering the fall on a very small scale. There's various von arabia to be leveling up again playing really good ball. What does crazy. You have victoria azarenka who re entered the fray last summer upon resumption so she's always going to be part of the conversation now you know she's another one thrown into the mix kim clijsters when she comes back sometime this year. She was recently diagnosed with covid nineteen. We found that out today and she's recovered and start to practice again and hope to come back in march but once she gets a few tournaments under her belt. We may have to the us open. We're thinking well. Well damn kim clijsters. Who's going to have to play her in the fourth row. The depth of the w detour is not static by any means it keeps metastasized. Wrote the draws the has a very sinister connotation so. I said it's either good or bad. The way wanna look at it this again. This little section. We have caroliina omaha opening against ostapenko who is not the seeded player. In that scenario daniel collins against bogged on as you said and i am bullish on collins because of how i saw her this week because she pletikosa seven six seven six recently. And and because i'm just so not confident about puskas game at the moment another player. Who always does well in brisbane. Who plays well in australia for many years and she just seems to be in a funk. She's one two this year lost to this year. I don't know i see. I personally see daniel collins getting through to that round of sixteen so in that first. Quarter the two top seeds on. Paper are ashburton puska. What to play in the quarter-finals. What you're things that you do not expect push to get there now and i'm saying i don't think it's as for barak to get there. Oh okay i mean. Would i be shocked if they're definitely not which is to say. There's a lot of room for a lot of women to have a breakout moment in this top quarter and got the same can be said about him. Quarter in the first half. This second quarter had lined. By the with the top seeds sony canon and illeana spidla and can kenan could potentially play cannot be in the second round which is kind of various to me just because of the havoc wrought by canadian everywhere she goes should she get through that though. It could be a nice little section there for her to get through to the quarterfinals of right. That said i think the big the big question mark and the person to cause a whole lot of trouble in that section his jennifer breed. I agree i mean. Imagine the confidence that she could have gained from her run at the us open and the amazing as she against naomi although she lost it was incredible tennis. I would not be surprised to see her in that semifinal. The only thing. I would caution against that. Kennan is going to flourish against the pace of konta in brady or she could because she's a great counterpuncher she didn't against the last week or this week. But cannon best could could really find her nisha playing big hitters like that see i think cannon had her best is also somebody who can hit with pace yup can deploy a lot of different things on court what i would like her to deploy less. Is the crocodile tears after losing matches. That's what i don't understand ho you lose to maruto at what's ineffective an exhibition to start the year in the middle of a pandemic and you're leaving the court in tears. I don't think that they're crocodile tears and normally. I'm like sensitive to crying but it's a lot like it's a lot of crime. It is all the time if you cry all the time then. I don't have that emotional connection to you. Run your emotions. Because i too have to protect my motions and i can't just give them out for free. I guess i just hope she's not going through something really serious about being well and that. I'm being just a nasty piece of shit for no reason. No i'm just saying like if you're crying all the time. I really hope that everything is okay in your life you know or maybe that's just you. Maybe that's the way you deal with stress. Stay off twitter. Do not look at the way. People are commenting on shots nest. Like because people are nasty out here in these twitter st. It's one thing to like talk talk amongst ourselves and clown whatever. But i don't know why you have to tag her or replied or two. It's like that just feels really mean like framing players are human being me mocking. Her fashions is so january. Two thousand twenty and we've had a whole asp pandemic since then and were still in the middle of it like right. You're about to flip the page. Don't go s- could not so fast as aranka opening against pa- gula that stuff you know. I mean it's it's not impossible but my god. Thank you for telling me. Not to flip the page. Because i almost overlooked yulia putin sabre against sloan stevens in the first round. Oh lord lord if it's not one scam is the say it with me. That was in response to one of my questions. What if not once comments another out your well congrats. Little thing i've ever done in my right right and nobody knows. Will i do anything better than that. Don't fly i. I hope so. No this is pretty great. I'm you know whenever we get these critical popcorn matchups. You know people are like going. Oh stuffing popcorn in their mouth and jeff foreman twitter like okay like is it really that good. This is one that i actually do want yet. This one is nothing to sample about. Coca gov liberal. I was giving their edessa. The little bottom section in the top half has cocoa gov versus jill teichmann and then marie bosc over salinas. Lena man whoever gets through that is going to have to do some work. And that's a rematch of just this past week coffin. Joel tuchman played three-set match You know obviously it's obvious this point. Keep an eye on maria. Soccer is slated to face as aranka in the third round that is not a guarantee for beka definitely not the second and third matches in this top half are lit yet. The bottom half is worth so much of this. Inequity is that we perceive okay. I'm seeing it now now that we've written out the the seated rounds of sixteen and quarterfinals. I'm i'm seeing the inequity. Okay but even the third rome's sabe bianchezi is even like six percent form. She could potentially play venus. Williams in the third round vandross uva against covetable mugabe ruth against koerber jabbour against asaka as an risks against serena sprinting rebecca. That's just okay so you've gone through all the third rounder. There are some big time matchups. Bianca is the number eight seed. She has not played in over a year. She pulled out of the tournament of champions trophy which was probably a very sensible decision for her. We have no idea what kind of form she is in. Though so this section is a big question. Mark she opens against bush s coup. Next is she. Ed versus perrone. Cova perot was a us open. Quarterfinalist cure simpkins versus venus williams. I know you have a story about that that you told on twitter. I don't know if you'd like to rehash it here. It was traumatic. I was so it was okay. So the first it was the first time we ever saw venus williams life and there was a time when we thought we may never see her before she retires even then in two thousand thirteen minutes. We thought that visas thirty three years old. Oh my god. We may never see that. Well she was deal with children's at that time. Yes so luckily we've been able to see her a bunch of times since then. But she was leading kirsten flip kuenz. I think she won the first set easily. She won the first set six low elk. I don't i don't remember i. I'm seeing venus williams play and she won a six love bagel. it was glorious. Until i mean it turned into a classic venus struggle especially during that period where she would get mired in these third sets. There was an older woman. Muir us I guess my left shoulder we these days you might call her a keren but back then we didn't use that word in common parlance that slur. She was screaming. Go kristen the entire time. Like she didn't know what was happening but she knew she wanted kristen. A win you are sitting there next to me. Seething like really mad because her name is kirstin and if that woman had really been a fan the of curious to know right and so what's the tell though the tell is that. She's most likely rooting for this woman. Whose name she does not know. Because of who she's playing who's venus williams ebony and ivory and that has been is experimenting unattractive on the inside. She was unattractive on the outside too so as we are leaving. Jonathan went over to the woman. Like oh my lord on just we need to go and he says just so you know. Her name is cure ston. She was stunned. I mean probably called the police shortly. After i mean you got to resist anyway you can anyway. Then is a long way of saying. Venus unclear center playing again not looking forward to them but who who is making the third round or the round of sixteen there lake is beyond is bianca. Back is venus playing. Well is one chung gonna do. It is pure ronca vogue and a mess up everybody's life again number. Listen this is the exact same stage. That wang beat three last year. Oh my lord knows she plays venus right. Oh and just for drama sarah erroneous in there as well. Listen that's not something to worry about. And i'm just saying there is i mean talk about entertainment value in this little so next we've got the ondraskova. Feta section critical remember at the consistency has been great lately. She glorifying and not in the yard. Our classic bob well no but she was a quarter-finalist last year in australia finalists the year before yes she was a quarter finalist at she was a semifinalist of the french in twenty twani. She restaurant a sixteen in the us. Open like fiddle A constant threat exactly so vandross Could play kveta in the third round. That is rough. And who i mean really of that part who reaches the quarterfinals truly any number of like eight different women could mega portio there. The second quarter in this bottom half the we've got mugabe and we've got naomi osaka as a to top seeds there if we were to get a fourth round with osaka and mugabe with. That would be stunning sickening. It will end up setting the same because moog the against kenan look like a tidal threat. I mean people are starting to put mets on her osaka. I mean wh what do you say about me like. She hasn't lost a match in a long time. That's what i say about her. Only retired for matches and drawn for matches. But look who she's got against ms janko who's reached the second week in australia. A bunch of times reached the quarterfinals last year. Should she get to the second round. She has former. I think number five ranked player carolyn garcia. Who looked pretty good to start this week. Then on jabour in the third round mugabe ruth in the fourth round andress skew or any number of those eight women in the quarterfinals. Yeah it's it's a tough rose a very tough road and so two four mugabo opens against gasparian than potentially plays but dosa in the second round kerber in the third row sock in the fourth round. that's gonna be a section to watch but you never know you know. Sometimes these players were real pedigree put together title runs like that. And that's what they need. Recklessly in spite of all we just said tough. This section is not a backdrop of venus. Williams shocking shocking. It's not a houston flip in the first could easily beat her. It could happen around under no delusion of that but you get thrown one. Chung is a a winnable match second round. We don't know what back on who's going to turn up with in the third world and even so we know that venus can raise her game. We saw how she played this past week if she gets to her in the fourth round. It's cause for optimism and excitement and just man. Venus van wonderment. Venus fans are something else. now i'm usually very pessimistic when it comes to the stuff. I don't think that she's necessarily go far. But at least you don't feel like the draw is stacked against. She could've opened against her sister okay. Final quarter saab. Linka who has been considered a favorite for this title for a little while even though she hasn't been to the late stages of majors. She's been the best player on tour for a few months. And i mean when. I say that half won two titles at the end of last year. She wanted to start the year. She's been great for yes but then she gets because i can in the second round potentially resurgent right. Subline can miss by ten fifteen feet and missed. The second week of a grand slam in every single slam entered really one fourth wrong. She's never made the quarterfinals and slammed her she's entered. It's gonna happen will be the ted's gonna hap yet. Of course serena opens against sigmund second round against bega. who got a couple of goodwin's under her belt. This past week third rung potential against linka. And then should serena chance to the quarterfinals. That's where she would play either. Howa shrimp tech redocking yet this The last section years interesting he xiang against a wrong ron. Sco bruce are on sky rosca. Yes feel pharaoh Verizon areva playing rocking on the first round kostia can cooder matola big picks to be kind of a the next top players on the next generation. So what a how up you mentioned she might have an injury concern but she still the number two seed as she looked great in her opening match. If even if she's healthy she's still potentially has to play. He goes frantic in another slam for round after just yet. Drummed her out of the third time they've played and all three would be a slam for thrown. So i understand. When you say you feel as dry as lopsided just to recap. We have critical muro. Sokha salad linka serena shown tech simona halup non rescue and not just lopsided with names lopsided with names who showed a lot this past week right aright. The maybe. we'll talk a little bit more about the draws on twitch. But that's are you committing to that can i get you on record maybe you know. I have a long as day. Two week basically delirious at this point but this is this is slim season but we have a podcast. We've got to provide the people to content that they need. You know the next three weeks to be rough podcasting wise indeed. Thank you for listening. I hope you all excited about the australian open. My name is jonathan. You can find me on twitter. Tennis underscore john and i'm james at elliot jamar. We are at the body. Serve on twitter and instagram. You just cut me off with the tools to tease. Oh are you over it now because there is an elliott with two ts andrea chris. Are you really voted off. But yeah a little annoyed by flu houston on it wasn't really elliott. 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