17 Burst results for "Patricia Krenwinkle"
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Cherry Avenue True Crime Podcast
"She was only Twenty-One and already a mother of two. She had only been with the family about a month before the murders the prosecution give her a tentative offer of immunity if she would say on the stand and tell everything that she knew God by this time Susan Atkins had withdrew her previous testimony and denied everything she said before so there was no one from inside the group testifying against Charlie or the others. Linda Kasabian testified to being eyewitness to two of the murders. She said that she and three of the others had just climbed over the fence of the house on Cielo drive when Tex Watson shot a man in a car who was driving out of the driveway. She stayed outside and the rest went into the house. She heard screams coming from inside the house and saw people running out. She stated that was all unbelievably horribly terrible. She saw Watson stabbing one man on the lawn near the house. She also saw Patricia krenwinkel with a knife chasing a woman across the lawn Kasabian change when shown a photo of Stephen parent the teenager who had been shot in his car Kasabian said he had begged not to be hurt..
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Nopeville
"And your young until if you're a teenager. Still Live with your parents. Let's either apparent or an ex-boyfriend. With you being young enough. You were probably thrown out by your parents yet so. Yes she. I guess it's safe to say that. She was enamored from the start. And from video interviews I've seen cheese most certainly still enamored with the man like she gets a little sparkle in her eye and smiles at the mention of him. Yeah, it's scary and she's like what in her sixties now yeah! I think so for her. Though life improved dramatically once she became a part of the Manson family because he was able to escape from the frightening household where she was treated like A. A wrongdoer by her father, so Manson very quickly became like father figure for her like I think he did for a lot of other girls. Yeah, a lot of the girls were really young like you said yeah, so the core members of his group included his right hand Lynette squeaky from Charles Tex Watson Robert Beausoleil. Mary Burner, who I believe was actually the first person he took it and she was a librarian. Inch Susan Atkins Linda Abyan Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten. So the Group of about twenty five young people settled on abandoned movie set called spawns movie ranch, nineteen, sixty eight. Every member had their role to play. The more attractive women were kind of sent out to take advantage of men surprise surprise considering he used to prostitute other girls yeah, squeaky was the group's den mother, so she was sort of like the motherly figure. She was always kind of like there to take care of people and stuff like that. And Pat was sort of enforcer she if anybody was questioning whether they should be there or if they wanted to stay or if they were trying to get out, there would be sent to her, and she would somehow kind of convince them that it. You know it was okay to stay made them. So former members also state that Manson would offer them LSD, so they were constantly tripping. And tell them to take it, but would either never partake of it himself, or he would take much smaller doses to kind of maintain his own lucidity interesting, but is it really that surprising because he could make them more successful? Yeah, say that kind of plays into the control aspect where. Like all you as tripping, I'm not so I, can make you do nervous i. want you to yeah, so he was always kind of preaching to them in his own way of just like you know his bizarre I say thoughts, but like he would say things that to them because they were under the influence, just like prophetic like you know, time didn't exist. Before man came around man invented time. Mind like go shit. I can't believe I never thought of that before. So yeah, that makes a lot of sense for how he was able to like manipulate an influence them that they were just constantly in a state of high. And such a large group and it was so you know it was so rampant at the time..
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on KTOK
"You something you might not know it's been more than fifty year since one of the most horrible crimes in American history the Manson family murders the nineteen sixty nine killing spree left seven people dead including pregnant actress Sharon Tate the culprits young girls acting on behalf of the deranged failed musician soon after Charles Manson and his acolytes were caught convicted and sentenced to life in prison here's how members of the so called Manson family have fair Charles Manson himself occupied his time reading fan mail receiving sixty thousand letters each year Manson stop replying after people began selling those letters of so many years the cult leader eventually got in on the action charging two hundred dollars for his hand written response one mansion wasn't reading letters he was plotting his escape prison guards caught the murderer with a hundred feet of rope he confesses plan after days in solitary saying intended to build a hot air balloon and fly away despite his celebrity status Charles Manson was hated by fellow inmates in nineteen eighty four a prisoner doused him in paint thinner set him on fire causing third degree burns all over Manson's by in November two thousand seventeen after forty five years in prison Manson died of cardiac arrest he was eighty three years old other members of the family haven't fared much better Susan Atkins known in the call to sexy Sadie embrace Christianity after decades behind bars the parole board didn't buy it she was rejected thirteen times I can die from a brain tumor in two thousand nine at age sixty one Leslie van Houten better known as Lulu was nineteen at the time of the murders she's been trying for parole ever since but rejected five tops Patricia Krenwinkel A. K. A. big Patty was almost a non before she got mixed up in Manson now she holds another distinction California's longest serving female prisoner despite being a good inmate she's been denied parole fourteen times next shot two thousand twenty two and here's something you might not know Erica still fascinated with Charles Manson the family murders would go on to inspire dozens of documentaries twenty motion pictures including this year's Oscar nominated once upon a time in Hollywood back.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"Times as usual. the wall. G. Bradley J. W.. the. WBZ let's continue let's get into it without our men here my calling the Massachusetts school of law he's been coming here must be three or four years now right yep probably at least three events we might be entering our fourth after junis all because I think more than that yeah it could be a lot more than doing lots six almost six years really yeah I don't know if you joined I can look it up pretty quickly and figure it out yep we were we've been together for a long man when this started yeah well I wasn't. okay. and this is the interesting okay well because it's a complicated legal case and it's also inherently interesting and it's also the fiftieth anniversary approximately of. the Manson family murders Sharon Tate murders committed by members of the Manson family. tex Watson Susan Atkins Linda Kasabian Patricia Krenwinkel should to Sharon Tate's home actress Sharon Tate pregnant at the time very pregnant eight and a half months and Roman Polanski's home was invaded he was not there by the Manson family members at the direction of Manson. and you know the rest when you don't know is a couple of people who were supposed to be there yeah I thought that was interesting in reviewing the history in trying to research some of it it said that bold Quincy Jones the record producer was supposed to be there that night as well as. the iconic figure from the time Steve McQueen was supposed to be there as well until he decided that due to pressure from his then Parramore that they would rather spend time together then to go over to their friends how well and be there but Steve McQueen could have been there as well so it's it's the the this celebrity connection here is pretty significant and did you say because I know you like you music stuff that the house actually previously had been owned are usually used by Terry Melcher from Paul Revere and the raiders and who was it on a mark Lindsay from Paul Revere and the raiders and Terry Melcher who bursts of birds produce producer and the California someone of the devoted Easter the California sounded alike so was you know a lot of famous people were at least either involved on the periphery of the Manson family murder and murders so it was very interesting the more you look at it even though you thought you knew a lot about it there were other layers to it that either escape the memory of that I never know the other one if Steve McQueen and been there for what it turned out differently it because Dave maclean is macho man and this never would have a different guy like that was present yeah it makes you wonder but that's that was always the impression is Steve McQueen and that's what probably it would have been interesting if there if the results would have been different because of who we think he is in the likely results of that what that would have been so why do you suppose were so fascinated by these murders I'll be fascinated by all murders of these murders in particular seems like these murders in particular I think there are a number of murder murders that captivate our attention and to me as I thought about why these ones work because it's really if we think about it's fifty years ago now this happened in the sixties there were off a lot of other events that were significant in the sixties but. this is one that we keep going back to and and that's what I was wondering as we looked at it is it is it because of the celebrity angle and I do think we've seen it now there's even around here in the the craft case and the Aaron Hernandez case when celebrities are involved anyway in criminal activity that that captivates us in a way that Monday in crimes in in their participants don't so I think it's celebrity angle is part of it that captured our attention I also think to me what what what what I thought was an attraction is this is almost you know the worst nightmares we have with respect to the the horror movies and the like is that crazed people breaking into our house in the middle of the night a home invasion where we're stab you know hundreds of times before they're done and so it it preys on some of our worst fears that that bowls captivates us and concerns us and in in intrigues us all at the same time and I think that's a a significant part of it is well thing that that I feel might play into it is yeah now we first how did Manson get these fairly I don't know potentially normal otherwise normal people to do this stuff and you wonder well can I could that happen to me I mean how far is anybody away from. that kind of thing under the right or the wrong influence. and I do think that's a great angle in with but with but if you think about it we've seen that many times I think some people. preferred to follow as opposed to lead and there are some people who like to lean have of a significant power to do it they have they are charismatic people are drawn to them Manson. despite what meat we may think of them clearly had these leadership and charismatic qualities that he could influence people to do things that that they wouldn't have otherwise done but we start with Jim Jones we've seen it with others where that type of figure leads people to catastrophic to do catastrophic thanks yeah so can you talk about the legal challenge that prosecutor. Vincent Bugliosi or part Losi have I'm not sure the correct way to say it. facetime. Manson didn't actually do anything well he wasn't there right and that's the thing when you say he didn't do anything that might. over sent his art or anyone he didn't directly murder anyone and that is one of the biggest challenges here is that Manson wasn't present at the time the murders took place it was in the number of his followers who at least as the government's art is bubbly OC described in the book and and has talked about on numerous occasions he directed their activities but he directed it from a distance he had planned it and told them what they should do but at the end of the day as you're pointing out that he wasn't there to force them to do it somehow these people did such horrible things without being at the the end of a gun or anything like this it was simply his his influence in in directing the plan and having them then execute his desires so the prosecutor had to prove that he influenced them enough which is kind of a more office a in Iowa abstract kind of thing to proof well really it's it's a conspiracy case conspiracy to commit murder if you think about it so that they got together for any illegal purpose and then that illegal purpose ultimately was carried out but but so where is the proof and and you know if you remember the the case if you remember Manson he's his own worst enemy he he looks crazy he's got a swat sticker on his forehead and he talked. the crazy game he didn't really try to dress up clean up and act normal he presented as he likely wise and as most people saw arm is pretty crazy person that was capable of doing just what the government described that's another thing that makes a fascinating and interesting to watch that some guy with a hair cut and the suit is it sich Manson and changed with his in his craziness sure right there and and that that that is the other part that I think appeals there are two tracks people to this whole problem is all of this is so foreign to most people's way of thinking that aid to direct others to do such a heinous act to beat so removed from society that these types of things don't bother you that to be able to influence others to do what is probably likely the though the most terrible thing they'll ever do in their lives for most of us those are such far in activities that we just can't understand it and what we can understand sometimes intrigues us to try and try and figure out why things like this happen and that's that's the other part of this is that I still think after all this time you used you do wonder how why did it happen and how was he able as you point out to get these folks to do such terrible things simply added his urging not through threats not through really any type of personal safety issue but to convince them that they should do this this type of thing on his behalf likely recognizing that if caught and convicted they may never see the light of day so you need a motive for murder cases right and yeah what was the motive band for Manson and what was the motive and for the followers it was a follow is is much hotter I can tell you what Manson Manson was seeking revenge at least according to. the government's theory of the case Manson dot that he deserved a career in the record industry he was a musician as he sorry and he thought he could be highly successful and his the object of his hatred at this point was Terry Melcher who was the birds producer and he thought that Melcher had unfairly of looked past his many talents and so what he wanted to do when Manson sent his followers into that room. to the house is that he thought melted likely thought Melcher was still there and Melcher's friends and he wanted who whoever was there when his gang got there to in essence. seek retribution kill them all and that was his direction to tex Watson and the the women that went with tex Watson there was at the end of the day is to cause such carnage in the house which they did bite through then isn't the the knife I mean it's kind of a personal slaying when someone is stabbed with a knife as many times as these folks were that he wanted to inflict pain and great carnage and that's precisely what he had his followers do it is incredibly interesting and I have read as and you have also read the helter skelter book by the prosecutor great but I always want to read it again I I am probably read a thirty years ago and it is so fascinating that it might be it's endlessly fascinating and I read it again well it makes you do think it's a does this for those that haven't looked at it in awhile and I haven't looked at it awhile again looking at the history again it was a great book written by the prosecutor so it gave us some insight that we wouldn't normally have it also made Vincent Bugliosi famous as a result about the case in the book but it was well done and it really gave us an insight into a lot of the facts in the details of it that would just not aware. that's excellent that will continue we have a lot to get to have 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"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Although sometimes in many cases of the guy was like Leslie van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel there would be convicted killers they had came from broken homes as I mentioned a few minutes ago I think they were looking for something and I was sure what they were looking and mansion and killer to be new then the gobbledygook explanation and they would swallow it I mean they were intelligent young women and that you know that say they came from well to do homes that good backgrounds and to be pretty good rage educations but somehow Manson new you know he knew there everyone of the goes is QVC I'll and as a result push the right buttons said the right things I mean one of the guards Patricia Krenwinkel was not a very attractive young woman never being with a man the first time he met Callie he said he was the most beautiful girl in the world made laughed at and she was from that day so have to mention those messages he knew they wanted it yeah and as soon as they heard it would you what would you call up call this a cold I know the cult is used I think you would call it accounts because it because the mesmerizing cat was mentioned I mean he was the boss the kid that goes with loud intended this horrible cruelty and would do anything for him that is a cult leader I mean look at Jim Jones judge courses as as I'm sure you know with the guy that's right nine hundred followers to take care of so put brink poison Kuwait and they will kill themselves so it is to get people to do but even here in Chicago we have the R. Kelly story and if you believe for yes what we've seen in the documentaries there was the same dynamic in that we had a person who was charismatic and very successful in his case no so that's why I kind of see I can understand somewhat the girls thinking oh this is a star I've seen him all over he makes millions of dollars he thinks I have talent he thinks I'm beautiful but Charles Manson was really a success in fact I mean if you use that comparison not really the compassion to but you know what I mean Kelly was a worldwide name at any of these shows he's he's gonna black today group is hopelessly should come very deeply Kelly I don't know the case that well mentioned did not have success Manson was on the rocks and she was a guy with a smooth toms who knew what to say to the right person and I just need to leave with a magical John he was the pied Piper yeah let's go back to squeaky from B. she wasn't it my right that she was not prosecuted in is one of the followers a new point this out very very clearly you've got a sore the accused and convicted killers from the girls of the silver round we can sit around and as you pointed out well before I say right you pointed out he was the one who confronted me in the courtroom outside the courtroom on the first day of the trial that he knew I was known I would not I mentioned he about Manson he's crazy antics he looked at me and he said that he would know what it feels like to have a nice down your throat well to be honest with you coming from this sweet Hey angelic doubt made it more horrible and I didn't I took that seriously then as you pointed out for whatever reason she went on Alan find out to what twenty twenty five years with Perot she's still out there please get out there with one or two of that believe it or not yeah I'm we made or now the old women who believe in the mansion they still do they still are brainwashed they do what else then can you play that little clip that I pulled from the internet this is just a little bit from our friend Charles Manson here when I stand on the mountain actually do it it gets done if we don't get done then I'll move on it that's the last.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Encyclopedia Womannica
"Hello from wonder media network. This is so see vacant. I'm guest hosting today for this special episode of encyclopedia romantika doc if you're just tuning in here's the deal every weekday for a year. Jenny is telling the stories of women from around the world and throughout history who you may or may not know about but definitely should each month is deemed and this month we're talking about. Villainous women have long been categorized history as either pure and good or irredeemably evil but like all people women are complex and deserve to be remembered as search. Some of the women were profiling. The smart really did horrible things. Well others deserve a second book. Today's illness is a former marcel. Listener discretion is advised. We're talking about a woman who had trouble childhood and went on to commit some of the most infamously famously disturbing crimes in u._s. History i have a special relationship to her as i recently played her in the movie charlie says let's talk about patricia krenwinkel on winkle one of the original members of the manson family patricia dianne krenwinkel was born in nineteen forty seven in los angeles california. Her father was an insurance salesman and her mother was a homemaker patricia. Teen years weren't exactly easy. She suffered through the divorce of her parents <unk> as well as relentless bullying at school for her weight and appearance after her parents split. She stayed with her father in los angeles until she graduated from high school. She taught catechism sikhism in considered becoming a nun for a bit before deciding to go to spring hill college a jesuit school in alabama that didn't last long. She dropped out and returned to l. a. After just one semester patricia i met charlie manson in manhattan beach in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven while working as an office clerk that night <hes> mm-hmm we slept together and when we made love all our members just crying and crying to this man because he said oh you're beautiful. I couldn't believe that i i just started crying. After that patricia left her life behind she went with manson along with lynette froman mary brunner to san francisco abandoning in her apartment car and last paycheck the growing so-called families started traveling around the country in old school bus patricia now dubbed katie eighty accident as a mother figure to the rest of the group at first manson and his group's exploits seemed unusual but not necessarily dangerous they ran through the woods while manson played the flute day did a lot of partying and they briefly crashed with the drummer of the beach boys. The group eventually decided added to establish a more stable base. They moved to spahn ranch. A deteriorating former movie ranch located in los angeles county manson had long. I've been preaching the racist notion that tensions between black and white people were about to erupt some believe this was the ideology that spurred the impending murder spree in in early nineteen sixty nine the manson family moved to a yellow house in canoga park to monitor those susposed tensions in august that year patricia took part the first horrific crime the family would become known for scene described by one investigator is reminiscent of a weird religious right five per murder off the pregnant actress sharon sharon tate along with her visiting friends patricia in some of the other manson group members invaded the house cutting the phone line in climbing and embankment to sneak into the property. They killed eighteen year old stephen parent as he was leaving and then entered the house to kill sharon tate and her guests which included the cough theorist abigail folder patricia stabbed abigail to death chasing her even as she attempted to escape during patricia trial. She recalled that she felt felton nothing. During the murder saying i mean what was there to describe there and it was right. Five people were murdered that day and patricia participated in war killings the very next following night. There was another bloody stabbing and two more victims. We we know one rosemary. Labianca patricia wrote death to pigs in blood on the wall and also misspelled helter skelter on the fridge. After after a few arrests patricia was bailed out by her father moved back in with her mother in alabama manson told her to go to stay there until he sent word for her return. Instead manson was arrested a couple of days later. Patricia lived in alabama until fellow manson crew member susan atkins who was still in jail started started talking about the tate and la bianca murderers patricia was arrested in alabama on december first nineteen sixty nine the next day ashi was indicted for seven counts of first degree murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder after a nine month trial patricia was convicted did of all counts and sentenced to death in the california institution for women prison. Patricia slowly began to lose loyalty to manson and the the rest of the family. Her death sentence was commuted to life in prison. As soon as the death penalty was outlawed in california and she went on to participate paid in many prison activities. She got a bachelor's in human services. She was active in alcoholics anonymous and narcotics anonymous and she taught reading illiterate inmates she has since been interviewed by journalists like diane sawyer and seems to show remorse patricia in the manson family have also been portrayed in movies such as this year's charlie says tune in tomorrow for the story of another historic villainous special thanks to jenny and lizzy caplan co creators of encyclopedia woman anika talk to you tomorrow.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Who Patricia Krenwinkel testified that she left a Pitchfork inside Mr LaBianca's stomach let's see I was really just gruesome gruesome cool just can't even make this stuff up now remember Linda could Fabian again second night girl with the driver's license did not go in so she's the look al she's gonna be important as we go along because she did not participate even though she was a driver and sat around form to get done she can actually kill anybody but here's the young twenty somethings just brainwashed by Manson now he's gone already remember even kill nobody even the second night and hundreds of stab wounds and blood everywhere and back to the ranch steak well the cops a course called this one in and mediate lady it's a whole different set of police basically because it's on the other side of town and really the one even connected the investigating right now they hold their gym in our Tony let me get Jimmy on here all Jimmy go ahead you have a question for Tony Tony I wondered you know mention movie see was the lawyer on the Manson case law about thirty years later he accepts forty years later his final book was defending the Warren Commission so I kind of look on him is kind of the C. I. A. asset assets I'm wondering why he prevented a trolley Manson's connection of the beach boys and some other rock stars from coming out at all and that nineteen sixty seven the early seventies trial none of that came out yeah but it would been sixty seven Jim because the mermen happened sixty nine no I meant I said or or late sixties and always seven sunset results always seven just see those guys were known about Jimmy that they refused to cooperate because they were scared they thought that the next one's gonna be brutalized and have been killed and we don't want to be associated with that so kind of they were they were they didn't cooperate with the investigation why because of the wide in Berkeley see bring it out the door you know something I think looking back I think those those guys were either subpoenas of a portent they did testify at the trial if I'm not mistaken I don't know maybe not yeah maybe they might be right I mean I I'll stand correction but I don't think any of that was you can put that back then well we were kind of yeah Dave Jimmy's question is fantastic if you give us like a few minutes we can kind of talk about Ireland how you guys were caught and maybe some of the questions that Jimmy has your audience has a kind of come together it is really that was an amazing prosecution GMA because think about it Charles Manson was eventually convicted and sentenced to death meeting even kill anybody actually my yeah he wasn't even involved in any of the murders technically it is is a lot more to the backstory about the trials I think the I find interesting to me hold on to me I'll put you on hold until you we got about a minute here so all the second set of murders have been committed now real quick in about a minute just give a flavor of what the LA had been gone wild in the mirror everybody by yeah the specially the Hollywood crowd because here's one of their own being killed and there was a mass push to buy rifles and guns and machine guns yeah and everybody thought all my god we're you know working on a murder spree and I'm bales of Bollywood and you're right the whole area and caused mass chaos not knowing exactly what was up until these guys were eventually caught which will get into laughter your next break that's for sure yeah well okay we'll hold right there now Hey guys if anybody wants to get on board to ask any questions of Tony and what course will pick things up by after the break but.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"The shade all all about one thing and we'll see in about the law you know this is something that Manson learn from others or you know maybe we'll never know that was one of the starting point for me in the balls that is I found the vote of other people involved I want to find out what was you know from there that's the anthem learned on less than two years after getting out of prison young people and just basically long the robot will bother murders and interesting information that had been reported before about Manson's connections and and actions Hey foods world research is going on if people have flight Manson may help Charles Manson like his followers I was surprised you know we we've all heard the story so many times and much of it from watching the trial in reading about the trial and then helter skelter the book I was surprised that there are multiple different versions of the actual facts of what happened and you found at least four different versions of it and yeah and yeah it's pretty confusing at the trial followed closely with specially designed for it wasn't of one trial but I mean the first trial that that small ones Charles Manson Susan mac with both of them out Fabian Patricia Krenwinkel then there was a second trial of the papers in fact what well what and then there were three or four more trials and we stayed with the program and then he should be Shea and down the hem of the musicians will of a couple weeks before the Tate la Bianca and then you start comparing the story is not just about the actual crimes but how people got together and about see a lot of the weapons which is natural anyway but eventually hopefully you know of a lot of them one discrepancies that it can lead to get active transcription and stop the court will menus lots of trials with with the ball about and you know that's kind of like twenty years with getting access about a lot of time chasing transcripts down one of the trials of those probably both Coolidge wild about transcripts we thought it was found by another researcher well I think the public should online but all that a massive wealth of information out there that I went through the line of duty it was very difficult for them well we'll be done hello well we'll get into some specifics here a moment talking with Tom o'neill about his book chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixties.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on KGO 810
"You know this is something that has been learned from others or you know maybe will not allow that will the starting point for me in the balls this is what I found in the world but if other people before I want to find out whether that was you know the last of the Manson learned on less than two years after getting out of prison terms one people and just basically long the robot will bother murders and they just bring information that had been reported before about parents who connections and and our actions more research is going on if these people live Manson eight Charles Manson like as flowers I was surprised you know we we've all heard the story so many times and much of it from watching the trial in reading about the trial and then helter skelter the book I was surprised that there are multiple different versions of the actual facts of what happened and you found at least four different versions of it and yeah and yeah it's pretty confusing at the trial followed closely especially if you go through it wasn't of one trial but I mean the first trial that's that's non one of Charles Manson's is immaculate will send them out Fabian Patricia Krenwinkel then there was a second trial of the state prison's tax what's involved while soon and then there were three or four more trial begins beach daily program and massive movie shooting Shea and daily and then a musician who spoke a couple weeks before okay Bobby onka and when you start comparing the story is not just about the actual crimes but how people got together and about see a lot of the weapons which is natural anyway but eventually if you look closely you know of a lot of them one discrepancies what let's see that actually transcript of a quote woman with lots of trials with non about and you know that's kind of like who twenty years with getting access a lot of times chasing transcripts down one of the trials of those Bobby balls await trial got back transcript if someone was found by another researcher what I think the public should not mine but all that stuff a massive wealth of information out there that I went through the line of duty but in a very different cultures and locally of two thousand hello well we'll get into some specifics here a moment talking with Tom o'neill about his book chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixties.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM
"The world would goalie and July and then laughed and celebrated afterward if you remember back kind of footage of the women in particular holding hands with skipping and then out of the courtroom downtown during the trial engine nursery rhymes for actually got my four has been officially call all that stuff was on and Billy feels about the law as you know this is something that has been learned from others or you know maybe we'll never know how that will the starting point for me in the balls this is what I found in the voice of other people involved I want to find out what was the notes from the last of the Manson learned it on less than two years after getting out of prison the twenty one people and just basically long the robot will bother murders and the majors meaning information that has been reported before about answers connections and and actions Hey food world research is going on able to fight now can I help Charles Manson like his followers I was surprised you know we we've all heard the story so many times and much of it from watching the trial in reading about the trial and then helter skelter the book I was surprised that there are multiple different versions of the actual facts of what happened and you found at least four different versions of it and yeah and yeah it's pretty confusing at the trial followed closely specially built for it wasn't of one trial but I mean the first trial that that small ones Charles Manson is the lack of of the van Houten Fabian Patricia Krenwinkel then there was a second trial of the state prison's tax what's involved while and then there were three or four more trial begins beach daily we've grows in advance of her the shooting Shea and down at him and a musician who spoke a couple weeks before okay Bobby onka and when you start comparing the story is not just about the actual crimes but how people got together and about see a lot of discrepancies which is natural anyway but eventually if you study it closely you know a lot of them were discrepancies if they let you get active transcription and stop the quote woman with lots of trials involvement non about and you know that's kind of like who twenty years with getting access a lot of pine trees in transcripts down one of the trials of those probably both Coolidge wild about transcripts we finally found by another researcher well I think we probably should online but all that stuff a massive wealth of information out there that I want to Lionel zero it was very difficult for them well done hello well we'll get into some specifics here a moment talking with Tom a Neil about his book.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on WTVN
"There are multiple different versions of the actual facts of what happened and you found at least four different versions of it and yeah and yeah it's pretty confusing at the trial followed closely by simply go through it wasn't of one trial but I mean the first trial that that's non one of Charles Manson's Susan I can go through there and how the Fabian Patricia Krenwinkel then there was a second trial of the state prison's tax what's involved while and then there were three or four more trials with them please stay with the program and Manson her the shooting Shea and down the musicians will of a couple weeks before okay Bobby onka and when you start comparing the story is not just about the actual crimes but how people got together and about see a lot of discrepancies which is natural anyway but eventually if you study it closely with a lot of them one discrepancies in life to get active transcription and stop a quart low menus lots of trials with them about about and you know that's kind of like who twenty years with getting access a lot of time chasing transcripts down one of the trials of those probably both willow trial that transcript we finally found by another researcher well I think the public should online but all that a massive wealth of information out there that I went through the.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69
"On spotify and give us a followed find more episodes now back to the story Patricia Krenwinkel was born on December third nineteen forty seven near Los Angeles. Her story is similar to many of the women who eventually followed Manson she felt lonely and unwanted and was searching to belong Patricia was bullied for most of her childhood for being overweight which made her feel isolated from her peers. At fifteen in she lost her virginity to a boy she thought had feelings for her only to never hear from him again after that she became addicted to diet pills supplied to her by her older sister Charlene who was a heroin addict but once Patricia lost considerable weight her pierce started bullying her about the excessive dark hair that covered her body then to top it all off her parents divorced in nineteen sixty five when she was seventeen and by the time she graduated High School in Nineteen Sixty six Patricia self worth was in the gutter she felt ugly and unwanted so much so that she decided no man would ever love her and turned her focus toward becoming a nun she briefly enrolled at springhill college in Alabama a Jesuit Catholic school with the intention of studying catechism but she dropped out after only one semester and returned home to Los is Angeles. She tried teaching catechism briefly but ultimately abandoned the idea of joining the convent and found a clerical job in L._A.. By the time she met Charles Manson in nineteen sixty seven nineteen year old Patricia felt felt utterly isolated from her peers and rejected by her family. She wants said quote. I never ever developed a sense of who I was and where I was going and what I wanted to do I wanted to please. I wanted into feel safe to feel like someone was going to care for me. I hadn't felt that from anyone else in my life she would soon meet the person who would easily low her into a sense of security however false one one night in September nineteen sixty seven Patricia came home to find Charlene in the basement with a group of her friends including a shaggy-haired Guitar player named Charlie Charlie immediately picked up on Patricia Insecurities Securities and pounced the two slept together that night and Charlie told her she was beautiful after nineteen years of being teased for her looks Patricia was so moved by the sentiment that she was brought to tears Charles Manson made her stand in front of a mere naked and call herself beautiful which only further broke down her defenses. She told Charlie that night that she would follow him anywhere and became the third third woman in his little traveling caravan she lynette Foamy and Mary Brenner became the Manson Girls.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on New Jersey 101.5
"Companies, what kind of moving horror stories of you had Karen on ninety five you're on New Jersey, one zero one point five. Boy, do I have a harsh story for you. Good. I. Townhouse down the shore. Townhouse less than a mile of where I found my new home that I was going to purchase. So I did a Google search like the other gentleman. Did you know trying to find different rates and, you know, companies, and came across a company with headquarters up in Doorn, and I call the girl I spoke with her. She was really nice. Sent me an Email confirming everything that I wouldn't get charged for mileage extra supply steps were free on. That's right. Excited we pack up put everything in a garage and make it easy for the guys to get it out. Four hundred seventy five dollars a so I'll take it in the end. It costs me thirteen hundred dollars to move mile. Why what, what, what happened? Hundred dollars. Can you believe that it's almost three times as much? They. Packed. Everything really nice. We got the tape, and the bubble wrap and all that good stuff. They charged me over two hundred dollars just for tape. Thing we've been at all. They repaid what we pay all this Karen. Did you fight them? I I tried calling nothing mentioned. They damaged my furniture. They even take my furniture when I went to pull up the tape all the painting with it, it was just a total nightmare. They would not return my phone calls, none of my emails, were answered. So I had to get an attorney and he couldn't even get in touch with them. And he was receiving no response from them. So what ended up happening and a mile away thirteen hundred dollars to pay so you just have to pay. You didn't take them to small claims. Nothing. Yeah. No, I got the attorney to try to, you know, Julie can do finish demand letter threatening letter to care my money back. Right. List. And then they charge me for mileage, which they say they will. And, you know, when you do companies like this schyster companies, they sound so nice and professional in the beginning until they show themselves. And then they won't even answer a phone or return a call. Oh, yeah. And when I when I looked at the guy when he told me it was thirteen hundred dollars. Are you not paying it echo, not if I don't have to? So we start talking in Spanish to his workers to an I understand Spanish. Unfortunate for him. And get my quote unquote, s-h-i-t MAC and put it on the truck. So I stopped him in his tracks right there. I'm going to pay but a pain, the in and then they, they looked at me. They want they had their hand out for a tip. Oh. My don't play in the street. You know, just leave. Wow. Oh, you gotta tip. Come on, man. All right. Thanks for your call. This has been the union the company, but this is between us and the boys. Oh, that's funny. That is the okay now with as many scams as there are with moving companies, you wouldn't think that a salon like a tanning salon would be like scam where they right? Did you see this in the news, Nutley, tanning salon owner, arrested because police say he was caught with secret cameras to spy on customers, when they were naked in the tanning beds, Nutley? Yup. Tanning. Yep. Ten mom. Yup. In fact, she's brought up here. Well, the guy was charged with invasion of privacy, endangering, the welfare for child all kinds of all, the, the also found weed and cocaine. They're nice. But they say so-called, tan mom, Patricia Krenwinkel that she was that she was a regular at son of a beach, and had made it had made approach to the same guy about becoming a co owner. So, yes. So this actually does circle back to the tan. Mom there. Nutley the news is coming up next on New Jersey, one zero one point five Dennis and Judi. I just find an odd.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Los Angeles. A Cumulus station. Hey, see news, live and local. It's five o'clock. I'm Liz Warner thousands of people are still gathered in the mid city area. Continuing what has become a day-long remembrance of the Armenian genocide? They're demanding the Turkey in the US government, officially recognized the deaths of one point five million Armenians more than one hundred years ago as genocide but both countries have refused thus far to do. So gasoline is dramatically more expensive in California and state leaders want to know, why today Californians pay one dollar eighteen cents more per gallon than the other forty nine states UC Berkeley, energy experts Evren Bornstein says taxes and regulations only account for part of that figure the remaining twenty five to thirty cents is a mystery just to be clear, this is not money going to the government. This is money going to suppliers and did adds up. This is costing Californians four to five billion dollars. Every year. The gas industry says prices about supply and demand. So Bornstein says the governor should ask why out of state refineries aren't rushing. To cash in Newsom is asking the California energy commission for a report Kevin trip. KABC news and appeals panel in downtown LA heard arguments today, but made no media ruling on Charles Manson follower, Leslie Van Houten latest attempt to be released on parole. Then Houten is convicted of murder and conspiracy for participating with the former Manson followers, Charles Tex Watson, Patricia Krenwinkel in the August, nineteen sixty nine lobbying stabbing deaths in Las Vegan feeless an urban search and rescue teams arrived at the scene of vehicle over the side of the road on ocean crest drive near Hawthorne boulevard in Rancho Palos Verdes. The driver was involved in a collision with another vehicle, and we'll be hoisted to the roadway for possible transport to the hospital. The National Rifle Association is suing the city of LA charging new ordinance is unconstitutional the ordinance which took effect at the beginning of this month. Requires that any company wanting to do business with the city disclosed any ties it may have with the NRA the ordinances author councilman Mitchell. Farrell says the common denominator all the mass shoe. Shootings across the country is the NRA they've been a roadblock to gun safety at every level of government. Now for several decades. The NRA says the ordinance violates the organization's first amendment right to free speech and association and the fourteenth amendment right to equal protection. The lawsuits filed in L A as the NRA's national convention kicks off in Indianapolis. Jim Roope, Los Angeles longtime southern California dinosaur aficionado Gretchen August. In has gifted the dinosaur institute at the national history museum of L A county with five million dollars in an endowment the largest in the museum's history. It was announced today. Talk radio seven ninety KABC.
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"Two years ago in nineteen forty seven Al Capone on the verge of Sieff lick insanity. Died of neuro syphilis in Miami Beach, Florida. He was forty eight and forty eight years ago nineteen seventy-one. Charles Manson and three of his she-devil that would be your Susan Atkins, Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel were convicted in Los Angeles of the nineteen sixty-nine take lobby Janka murders. And I understand why they call them the Tate lobby uncle murders. But lists don't forget that also losing their life that evening Abigail folder hausky. Steven parent. JC bring nineteen Eighty-one fifty two Americans who had been held hostage by Iran for four hundred and forty four days arrived back in the United States said day this day two years ago, TV legend Mary Tyler Moore died of cardiac arrest after getting new Monja. She was eighty birthdays today, include diner, man off. You may remember her is he lane on soap Carol on. Empties nest? But most importantly, she was born of the pink ladies in Greece. Mardi merit chino. Every birthday. Andy cox. You can try to argue that the fine young cannibals sucked. But he would lose that argument..
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on Female Criminals
"Pardon in nineteen Ninety-three she wrote her autobiography, the tears of my soul and donated all the proceeds to the victims of her bombing, Kim Hyun. We is still alive to this day. She is now fifty six years old and is living a secluded life far away from the grasp of those who wished to do her harm. She married one of her bodyguards and they have two teenage children. When the topic of her crime comes up Kim Hyun, we still maintains. She was brainwashed by Kim Il soums regime. She's incredibly remorseful, and she has not committed another crime. Since sometime in the last twenty years Shawn, we learned that her family had been seen in a North Korean concentration camp by now they could be dead shown. We no-doubt struggles with this information, but she tries to take advantage of her second chance at life and keep doing what she feels is right here on. We came back into the news in early two thousand eighteen when north and South Korea made a truce before the Pyong Chung Winter Olympics. In the first part of human, we story we mentioned that the bombing of flight eight five eight was meant to create chaos and derail the nineteen eighty eight Seoul summer Olympics. Those Olympic Games went on twenty years later, North Korea's dictator, Kim Jong, UN grandson of Kim Il-Sung was vocal about north and South Korea appearing United during the two thousand eighteen Olympics. Athletes from both countries marched under the same flag and even competed on the same hockey team, he'll on, we felt she had to say something about this according to a Washington Post article. She was uncomfortable about the whole situation. She felt that quote, the cooperation plays into North Korea's hands, giving the country a celebratory spotlight, despite how it treats its own people and quote, Kim Hyun we had learned firsthand what her country was capable of it makes sense that she'd be wary of celebrating a government that brainwashed her into killing over a hundred people. There's a lot of debate about whether we can or should punish brainwashed individuals for crimes. They commit in an article in the pace law review titled losing your head in the washer lawyer, Rebecca Emory discusses brainwashing as legal defense. She believes a brainwashed individuals should be seen as a victim and should seek rehabilitation in Kim Hyun. On as case. This is exactly what happened, but others who have tried to use this defense still ended up imprisoned one high profile brainwashing case in the United States was the Manson girls. The Manson girls were in fact grown women when they committed their crimes. Susan Atkins Patricia Krenwinkel, and Leslie Van Houten were in their late teens and twenties when they joined Charles Manson's cult, the Manson family, they took part in several murders at Manson's instruction in nineteen sixty nine. Many have argued that these women were cold blooded murderers. Some have counter argued that they were brainwashed and had no control over themselves when they committed the crimes. Either way the Manson girls went to prison and stayed there at Kim's was in prison until her death in two thousand nine Krenwinkel and Van Houten are still in prison and have tried and failed multiple times to appeal their sentences, the debate over brainwashing and whether it should be. Seen as a reasonable defense will probably go on for decades more. But in Kim Hyun as case, it seemed pretty clear. She'd been coerced into committing her crime by decades of government manipulation, a Washington Post article from January twenty fifth nineteen Eighty-eight written a week after Huron. Weas public confession talks about how the majority of South Koreans believed Kim Hyun. We was innocent and North Korea itself was the real culprit. The article's author. Peter moss says that South Korean newspapers saw her as one of Kim Il-Sung 's unwitting pawns MAs notes, quote, the Korea Herald described her confession as a telling example that human conscience can triumph over manipulation or cheating and quote, although her crimes were forgiven, they would not be forgotten the tragedy of the Korean air flight eight five, eight bombing is a lasting reminder that anyone. Can be convinced to carry out an act of violence or terrorism. If the circumstances are right instead of focusing on the individuals who are responsible for these crimes, it may be more useful to look at the organization's behind them. We can never replace the lives lost in acts of terrorism, like the flight eight, five, eight bombing. But if we can empathize with the criminals responsible and understand why they did what they did, we're one step closer to making sure these atrocities never happen again..
"patricia krenwinkel" Discussed on The How-To Heretic
"Okay and that was well they were trying to they actually did they had complicated view of us on race they weren't really validly racist but they believed at the end of days would be sparked by a race war it's like the christians and the jews in israel right now we'll make sure you have israel i'm not going to tell you what the next part is it's really important to me that that happens right right we support you jews right right up until for now another thing happened yeah don't don't don't worry about it no big deal okay so the next piece is really where the rubber meets the road again it is unknown how manson got his followers to to follow him so you know down the fuck and rabbit hole like they did his belief system was this amalgam of christian millennialism he claimed to be the incarnation of jesus christ he claimed that his his followers were in in in carnations of the first christians he believed that satan and jesus would reconcile in the last days judge the world together cute and then he also had some scientology sprinkled in there for good measure right because honestly what could go better than with that than some zanu and today mentioned the lsd on the night of august eighth nineteen sixty nine manson directed one of his followers named watson to take sarah atkins linda kosabe ian and patricia krenwinkel to the for the the home of a of a person melcher and kill everyone there what was the last name you said melchior no patricia what kringle krenwinkel i was gonna okay well i was just about to say i think you're making her up but eventually we're going to get to someone named squeaky fromm.