20 Episode results for "Patrice O'neal"

S2:E76 Except the owner!

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

12:46 min | 2 years ago

S2:E76 Except the owner!

"We're live. Good morning big. J. O kherson. They come back. He I didn't realize like seven years ago was the last time we talked. Oh boy. Man. It seems like yesterday. Honestly I thought you were in Naples. No, it was my first time here. Oh, you miss me. Yeah. I can tell after seven years, you were like calling and writers, never heard a damn thing. But yeah, tell me about the podcast. You got to radio show on comedy central first of all, how did you start in comedy? And then tell me about that are starting comedy from afr- ultimately those big fan of a growing up, huge fan of it. But new all the even the guys who were. I guess, lower level, but that would still be on TV showcase shows and everything. 'cause you follow it fought it a lot and see. I knew nothing about comedy. Oh, really nothing. I've got the business. I didn't know five names. I till I knew I was so such a student of it. And then a friend of mine when I was nineteen working at a seven eleven going to community college had dinner with me. And she said that she was so disappointed in my life shorts and nineteen which should I be doing? She's like I always thought you were so funny. I thought you would try comedy and then serendipitous leave the next day, my friend, asked me if I would go with him downtown Philly to south street to buy sneakers while I was waiting for him. I remember looking across the street and seeing there was a laugh house comedy club, which I never noticed in all my years of going down that area before. Yeah, just never, I never even thought I guess of it, and also I was too young to go. Yeah. So I never really thought of it. Of going to a comedy club. And then, so by the for the first time I walked into one it was to do open mic. I asked about when they had open mic. They told me was Thursdays, and then I went back for Thursday's in a row and chicken down from going on. I don't blame you buy the fourth time on chicken out, they called my name the before they come to me and say, you're next, but I would go I go, I'm going to go on, and I would say before that, that was going to go on, and the, the fourth Thermo stage. The host called me to the stage on stage. Big Jay or J Hooker Susan, I said from the audience. I went no, no, no, no, no. He's come all get up here in Maryland. Out on either chickening, nobody. Yeah. And the next week I brought I kept upbringing friends cut. I wanted to see me bomb. Right. And then the next week, I brought friends those if they all pay their five dollars to go to this, then I'll have to go you have material written already. So you had jokes rate horrible jokes for you. Written down the list, it have a now because you do such a busy crowd work in you like shows that never say, do you actually right now? Or do you know I never wrote it down? I. Work with the crowd to kind of come up with things or have ideas during the day. I just take him to stages ideas and kind of iron them out, and then find the funny right there. I trust myself to be funnier on the KOMO ever stuff down. I tend to just be. Lazier for big sense. So if I'm writing something down. I think I just go for the obvious easy joke where I think, if I work on the fly, I challenge myself, the more, I think liquor. I think it's really fun wash. Everything you could see sit down and watch everyone of your shows because they're all different. So that's always fun for, for club or even the staff. Because when they get to a show like the first days grade, the second day's great. But if it's the same show every time the staff for me it's better because they sell more. Would you come? It's great because the whole place has the watch. I'm like, David can you sell some grease and food watch this show? It is funny that is and the staff is funny. You say that the staff is the reason before it was on the road a bunch. I was kind of like milling around the comedy clubs in New York for years before I can get like any kind of an audience that would like make me go on the road like a troll enough to get booked. Right. And while that was taking it's time I was working the clubs in New York regularly. They worked all the club's pretty much, but because those staff, I've watched them roll, their eyes comedians who they know their material and a mailing the work. In your grow. You kind of horned, your craft in New York. Right. And that's your those guys are like all the time. It's so funny. I feel like in New York. The comics are like hang out in the clubs all the time. Right. So you kind of a part of that scene, and that on the comics. It was great for learning experience, and everything. But being, but when you're performing on it seeing the staff, especially with the low turnover of the staffs in New York, you know, a lot of them are, like families that have been there forever and longtime employee. So I don't want anybody to roll their eyes at my jokes. So I started just taking those sets and using them as forum, full writing experiences, right? And I would just go up when he gave with the crowd and just stick around with the crowd as much as possible as way the crowd because what I was always impressed by seeing in the comedy clubs Dave attell Patrice O'Neal's guys that guys that cut like the staff see what the coolest thing. Exactly like you said the staff stopping right? What they're doing or, or rushing their everybody loves that everyone happy, except the owner. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And you had the owners of four. Damn Drake's, yeah. He's funny. He's still going to be funny tomorrow. Now going sell the traits, because this customer is not going to be sitting in tomorrow. But I think so much. Even being able to stay on the road all the years, that didn't have my own audience, yet, it was pretty cool to, to get the go back to these clubs based, I think soil off the staff and everyone enjoying it and being more have back here, take me back to like the first big day when you like oh my God, I'm kinda like I'm I made it we'll, how does that work. Was it when you get an agent or manager? Or when you what was it all of them of all them? You think like I've made it my first manager sure you're like here I am showbiz a gal unfold in front of me in hell. I'd say the biggest career like shift for me was alternately getting a good agent. Yeah. Just an Ed brook is. And management, also gave Kim witch and the C H siege entertainment. They both those people. Jumped in with me at a time where I couldn't, you know, I, I was making cold calls that point agencies and managers go, please. Somebody helped me like I'm just kind of fledgling. You know get the festivals all kind of get the, the industry standard stuff. But I wasn't getting the big clubs level. I was saying money wasn't making any kind of, like, you know, significant right. But cash at all it was just it was such a grind in such a hustle, getting that agent manager. We just jumped in and let's figure something out together, and then also. I mean, a real turnaround in my career, you know, getting the David tell me on the road for eight years. With him everywhere he went for so long and was so good to me, and the learn from somebody like that, and Patrice in order to get those kind of teachings was great. Because the best thing that you've learned the most memorable thing you learn from each one of those guys. I mean legends. Sure, did you know in the industry? Obviously, I mean from Patrice O'Neal. It was just like his complete disregard. Of like of laying the room dictate will you do. Do you know what I mean? Like owning it and kind of like turn it around as interesting thing to do you know, seeing somebody, I hope I employ this in some way because even last night at at off the hook. Joe was featuring they're hilarious. And anytime he went to a dirty territory funny. Joe really funny jokes. But the crowd was more like, and there is just some kind of thing that I was able to, like figure out over the years by observing these people, especially Patrice on something like that is to get them to kind of loosen up. I mean some energy you give it just gets them to like untangle and just go. Okay. And you see start seeing older. You know, Florida, people that I thought were going to be like, maybe walk out of the show, like just kind of pleasantly, enjoying even if it's not, you know, they're not niece, lepuc. They're like they're in they're not offended by it. And they're, they're having a good time. And then with a tail it was just the work ethic of just staying on the road and just grinding it out and doing it and he was always such a big lake help from also just financially. You know he just kept me alive. My guest today on the captain's log big j. O kosei. Could see off the hook comedy club to shows tonight Friday to show Saturday and guys you're gonna laugh you're gonna love him. Jay. How can they find you on social media with your Instagram? Big Jake Big Joe. Kherson. BMW. Say guys he's hysterical. Give a question for me before we wrap up the captain's log this, and I was like to say if you have one question you get out now or two or whatever you wanna do, but I'll be I'll answer for you from a club owners perspective or anything else that your of what was the most. Oh names. We know what I'll tell you. What we'll get everyone all excited on the podcast and telling us soon as you turn this off. I'm gonna ask you who your favorite person have showed up with question. I the least David person actually showed up at the club. I mean as far as the perform. Yeah, I've had a few. I'm about four or five it really went south quick. When we turn this off, I'm going to get some names. I've been able to. But it's interesting, you never know like honestly sometimes why to media make it such a hard battle between like a club owner and their performance. I don't know why they still show up, do their show and do their work and go home. But some guys honestly aren't happy and less is a like a serious, like Churchill. Yeah. Don't get that. I do find that interesting to just I've always nets very Dave attell going out on the road with him. Like I just try to leave my footprints just like funny. Yeah. I just don't really ask for too much. I'm very like I don't bother the staff much at all. I don't require budgets things. I don't bring it on. Toroshin. I just show up and tell jokes his you're good at it. My jokes bail. I don't abuse some. The reason why sometimes it doesn't work like that, as they can't show up and be that good at some of the jokes possible. I think that sometimes what it is. We're also generation of like the YouTube people and stuff that are kind of, you know, the Instagram celebrities kinda show up and right there drawing audiences, so they kind of have a very. Built did put a Bill to grab. I mean, also, they kind of come with, like fuck this, you know, it's more like everyone's here for me. Doesn't really matter where I do it, which makes them tend to be a little disrespectful. They've worked hard to build. I can understand audience. You know what I mean on your show up from the opening time they should've onstage right? People air. Well, how can they see your podcast with John couple to killer podcasts? SDR show in leisure skanks, both on guest. Joel network dot com. Newest eight episodes, always free. And if you if you subscribe, you get all kinds of awesome content, and archives, and the, an bonfire on Sirius XM satellite radio comedy, central ninety five and that is six PM APM live every Monday through Thursday. And then we'll Thursdays prerecorded so Monday Wednesday live Thursday prerecorded, and then and we run that all week long. And that's available on siriusxm awesome. Awesome. They should be in my guest today. Thank you for having me. Welcome to Florida list has some great shows the captain's log guys were out have a good day.

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Is It Cool To Have A Work Boo?

the Talk 2 Q Radio Show!

47:54 min | 3 weeks ago

Is It Cool To Have A Work Boo?

"If you are in a relationship or if you're married is a cool to have a work. Boot a word spouse like a work husband or wife is that okay or is that crossing the line. Well we're going to get into it on this episode of the top radio. Show buckle up you. Radio world was gone on people. I wanna welcome to another episode of south dakota radio show my quincy and this is my show and i'm broadcasting live from the south side of the t to q man cave. It's tuesday september. The fourteenth twenty twenty one episode number nine hundred and fifty eight v should alike subscribe and share the show in that order. Please thank you very much. That's how the show grows if you don't point and click my show doesn't grow awake all right so talking about work booths office. Romances platonic relationships. Let me go to the virtual line t- to q-bert phone line and see who's going to be joining the mix today and let me start here with the homie bailey. In the six online mississippi baylor abdomen was going on everbod. seria sir. Ready to get into the sharma are right have you and let me go back to the t to q virtual lines and there's no telling where this journey money isn't it bring on brad who resides in florida. But he's just all over. The place. Brad was going on. What's happened in do alright are right all right. And where are you This time you know. Brad is basically travelling the country at the moment so Where is brad at this moment like. Where's waldo i'm in kentucky i'm in i'm in bergman's down right now. Kentucky's good kentucky's good. I can rock with that. And so we'll go ahead and get started all right first names. I a work. Boom means many things on who you ask Here are some signs that you may have a work. Boo or work spouse okay. You have inside jokes that only you and that person no or maybe they're the first person you go to for any type of office office gossip They're your go to person for meals snack or medicine during office hours. They know just about enough about your personal life outside of work. Dan some of the people who are actually outside of work that you know you can fill out. You can be completely honest with them and just tell them whatever and so a lot of people. Don't think that men and women can be france about something being running afoul so to speak so bailey. I'll start with you. Can a man and a woman have a platonic relationship as possible. I think i think possible. You can elaborate sir We tonic Yeah can't can they give what we did when we work moves is friends but it's probably a little more too so you could save platonic but it's still a age. Those deal is friends with louis. Morton friends added to it. You know if that makes any sense there's dealer is energy that's also more than frames and you. Can you know operate in space without line being crossed. Okay i little gray area there and brad. What do you think men and women have lieutenant relationships. Yeah i'm gonna completely agree with bailey. I think as long as they both understand that it is platonic up. There's absolutely no reason why. I understand what you're saying to bailey because people that people aren't used to really making friends in the workplace because they wanna keep that separate from you know outside life and work so when you develop that friendship with someone it's a much closer bond arthur all right so an upside to having a work boob is that you have someone who can provide Emotional support at work when outside relationships may not be able to at the time you know not everybody's able to take a break and make a phone call to their significant other if they're having a bad day or something like that so when you're having a bad day at work is it really a bad thing that you have someone you can confide in to kind of get you through it and bailey. I go back to you. Not only recommended. I think is necessary. You know I think having a workable man makes you a better spouse. The person that you deal with outside of work you know Having a look blue might stop the argument when you get home you so excited about the interaction that you had it worked at you. You come in a good mood. You may not plus about what you normally would have. The battery may not be irritated about. Would you would have normally been irritated by because of the good space shooting from dillon with the interaction and it work so almost think necessary relationship fan. I don't i. Don't see a dallas. I brad do you agree. Do you think that It can be a good thing to have someone you can confide in at work it's imperative it's imperative and as long as if you're in a relationship to your significant other better no because that's one thing you don't want is you know shown. Hey what's going on with these texts from this version or whatnot but you i know. I know that i was not always the best boss at work. So i know that people that worked for me had each other's backs when they were talking about me behind my back which i understand why i i was an asshole. I'll be front so you know. It kept those people motivated. And so let. Let's talk about potential downsides to having a work boot usual usually at least one if not both may have some romantic interest in the other. So bailey d started brad on this from five brian. Do you think that most works spouse situations end up turning into office. Romances some allocate. So the Yeah most know some. Yes 'cause i know. I know of at least one or two in particular so It can happen. Doesn't always but it can. Okay and bailey. What do you think man. Do you think that most of these situations end up turning into office romances. All right i'm gonna go with. Brad can't say most but definitely a lot of them But the earlier question. I can't with my Can meaning be platonic yet. Only if the woman is not interested in the man can you. Can you explain what you mean by that. Why is that important that the woman not be interested in the man. So it's okay if the man is interested but the woman is interested as a problem absolutely was the one that one was interesting is go. You know slow. It'll it'll be platonic as long as she allows it to be. But the first indication that is not the hey you know we're no longer son. Now come on bail on bailey. You know that the flipside work to the flipside works. Because i've been in that situation before you know where you know she might attracted to me and it ain't the way you know come on giving you the benefit of the doubt that you can have a higher caliber work boot. Sounds is giving you the law telling me you gotta hire better along believing learning all right. We're not talking about those bro. I so erica. Louisiana asked a question. Are y'all y'all talking about your relationship issues with your work boost so if things are bad at home are you talking about a those situations to your work. Move to work. Move no work wife. Yes man difference. Okay what blue you know. Cool you know Cross because again as work. I have to trust. You have to trust that. You're not gonna put me in a situation where i lose my job but you lose your job so still you know recall but you know no trust is at a minimum work. Why ma'am go together. You know what. I'm saying soon might be emergency contact. You know you know. You can't be disrespecting your your real relationship but you know just maybe certain things at a minimal. You know what i'm saying. there's thirty things. Adam adam notable. I i you just you gotta be careful. You really do And i think that you need to make sure that if you are talking to the work wife that you you speak to what your feelings are. And you speak to the specific actions whatever's going on in their relationship but you can't embellish. You can't talk bad about the other person on unless they did some really nasty shit Because you if you go ahead and say bad stuff about your wife or husband whatever that can get back on you especially is nationally. If you didn't realize that you work wife was india right right right where she worked she worked. Y you nose you. Nc at that point you right you can't you can't be bad mocking anybody. That's you know. That's low integrity to be one down to someone else to make them feel good and it also makes them think that their imports may be elevated at that point. So we don't do that. We're not gonna bad now people but you know You get a lotta gain by listening to women. You know what. I'm saying. So as far as i may not bad mouth who around wit to work who work wide. But you know there's situational topics and you know you might rent a pass them in by the time you get a lot of insight you know by conversation with him and listening to the women in some times it's gonna formation name and you apply to your situation. They may help own. So yeah i definitely situational topics run past. But we're okay. I'm gonna go back to the lies and a second look at these comments. Erica said all of your business is going to be around the water cooler So i guess if you share stuff about home she says it's gonna get spread around as she say when the work wife gets ready to replace the home life. You're going to be in trouble and yeah those situations can happen. And i'm sure we'll get into that a bit later and let me go to the foul lines ever show legends called in from the seven three two area code the garden state of new jersey. Please welcome on the show enforcer. Let's show legend right right what's happening. What's up cute fellas doing romeo man one all right so random. Ask you this. We're talking about you know. Having work spouse relationships in the office candidates situation turn to a sexual harassment case when work relationships are taken a little too far by one of the two people. This is what i would advise you single or whether you are married if you involved in any kind of relationship and you're on the job should go to new bernice in report your situation before starting. Okay so you're saying cover your basis ahead of time I i feel you own that brian. What do you think you think these situations can turn into sexual harassment. If one person takes things a little too far we'll apps absolutely. That's what i was referring to a few minutes ago. You if if you have the other person is in a bad relationship especially or in a Or not in a relationship. You always run the risk that they might be interested in you or vice versa. Whatever Sneeze god to be really frigging careful about that stuff because once stumbling really develops strong feelings and tries to take it further. You could run into some problems. You might lose your job. They might lose their job. You never know of productivity. I mean that's that's a disaster and bailey. What do you think about it when it comes to Know potential sexual harassment. You know like like our mentor. Patrice o'neal always says there's no sexual harassment. Day a day of amnesty. Where you can truly arrest yourself wrote what happens if someone crosses the line. I mean you run the risk of sexual harassment when you try to have worked move relationships. Wow they're just roommate. All that happened yet. Hey i don't know just ball whatever. She won't man but searchable harassment but man actor the leading process corporate has to be thorough. You know the bidding process you just. Can't you know just because you're not gonna get it. You know you ring diggle deeper liquor some other qualities to see somebody. I wanna kind of total aligned with fan. But that's worse case scenario. That went really bad evans. So let me ask you this. You mentioned something earlier about a work boo and at work. Why can you have more than one works spouse. You know just like a traditional american by traditional american standards where you only have one wife. Can you have more than one work. Boot let's talk a lot of people. Don't speak boy I work blue possible. Blue possible one work. Why now you know now. There's only one being eight hour. We're gonna be going a little slow. You can have one. You may confide in one who gives you snacks One who has all the office gossip again. You do it like that word. This is work polygamy at its best a working error. I'm gonna thank me. You could be listening with everyone you know and you can take the how you wanna take what you can be pleasant. Maybe maybe charming but not that. I don't have to be your world. You know mean player. that's what you are. no. I want to know. So here's the problem problem. He's you've got. You've got one two three in work booze you've got your work wife. Booms thinks they're your work life you know in that finds out that your stuff to the work wife that you're not telling to work boom. You got some problems potentially look did not current man. We'll just women a good friend of mine. You know he said man you got so much on your plate you need to get a saucer and so my thing is only you can only keep what you can deal with on your size. You know that but it's far as having a okay you have your work boucle others but that work only she's gonna stop warning you other potential work booze don't want you know what i'm saying. Nobody wants anybody that nobody else wants. So you don't have to still maintain that you know that. I'm not gonna say player but just just being cogil in and glitch you know hey i could give you know just to keep on toes because if you lose that ability then you're gonna lose so you have you know. They have to smell that other work. We won't you put up a sign up list. Oh i'll let you let you know when we have an opening it. Yeah i just got to play a song. So now i don't you know into chat room row harris champion from louisiana and said that that was interesting comment about the multiple word booze and Erica in louisiana just laugh out loud about a polygamous work love affair. Batman said he almost had a work boot when he was working at the airport in illinois and says she was fine but his ex wife medder. One time newell was about to go down so run. Run run. I guess he had to bail on that one. And let me ask you about the perception in the workplace man. Do most people notice who is like kind of getting chummy with one another around the office and what kind of problems can cause as far as the perception of what other people think allows right so let me try army. Go back to you bryan and ask you what about the perception. How can other people and what they see as far as your relationship with your work booth. How can that cause problems. Well first of all if if it's appear relationship that's one thing you got to make sure that it's not a You know boss employee. But let's let's so what's that aside so if you're talking to peer relationship what you what can end up happening is is. You've got especially if it's sales if you work a really well alongside one person you're gonna end up turning over sales to that one person a lot a you end up getting jealousy from from whoever else is there. Maybe that's on them. But if it's on then you figure out they have to figure out. What am i doing wrong. How can i build the relationships more in in work. So it's really if one of the people's let let's say they scruples are a little bit less. That's where you really run into problems because then you have. Hey let's let's do this to the boss. Let's do this the other person you know what. Hey how much you making. Hey you're not making enough. You need to do something. Hey let's do this. You know what. We're not going to work as hard we you know. That's what happens but let's say that's not the case if it's too honestly good people it's just gonna make it a better working experience it's gonna make it more productive but in my experience i'm being sales i've found usually if that a little bit of okay you just gotta be aware of it. All right and erika in louisiana says that no fraternization policy will get you into trouble right and with this man okay. Nashville was going on there. Maybe he's having some issues. But i saw having discussed all of this. If you have a significant other at home is so maybe wanna sand. That is okay to have a word. Boo is good at right as long as she knows about it. Oh no who. You made the work blue or the home. I'm talking long at home. Knows you're friendly with the one at work because because you're gonna end up getting texts on the phone and the wife is gonna wanna know who that is. Paul bailey's going to slap me through the screen. That's not time. Were were ice. So you're saying that I mean let's talk about work boot protocol. Let's establish because thank you brad on two different pages here. Is it okay for your work. Buddha contact you after hours after office hours unless pre approved solid sound for for credit at at a preapproved. No brian grasberg takes message start situation. So let's keep confusion and well. Let's let's clarify in in in mind. I'm thinking of work as more like a work friend. Now you know now. Now you're talking work. Booty call won't be clarity about a brand. We don't want to deter any potential. So let's but those two categories here. It was a work blue. Then then you better keep that shit on the down. Low me on that one to do that but Yeah if it's what. I was saying before where it's just basically like a really tight knit. Close friend that you tell everything that that there's no problem if as long as your significant other nose run. I think i killed q. Boy armed lab General erica mississippi said bailey has are laughing la so our is so saved a little. I guess you're difference in opinions when it comes to if you can contact someone after work or not And bailey you also said your significant other at home should not know about the word boo while ryan the sand. The exact opposite of what are you saying that she should not know more. just keep down confusion. Man is the capability. I you can't weiner you can't. You just can't win. You gets with jealous. Woman is what it is. He's rigid wounds. I think i think we make women jealous talking about our actions. We make them jones. And i'm giving for the dow. Maybe they're not born. Jealous may not jealous. I think the things we do because ninety okay all right. I'll take that free. Does just the freemen about she'll be jealous of her. Meanwhile the real work buddhist. She doesn't know about because that's a little more than the work booth. You know she be scott free but she'll be jealous. She'll hate that one that she knows about. You know what i'm saying. It's just you know you to keep down confusing bread so basically what you gotta do. You have anyone that she knows about. That's that's to keep her off the real jail. Don't even want to start thinking you know 'cause they and it opens up the door you know who else is around there. You know asked me what i did today. I did nothing. Have day every day when i come home. You know. I just went to work as the next thing next think. Are you really a spy. Rather be that than a cheater. Yes i have. Missed mckinney out in texas cracking up aircraft. Louisiana says so now can't even trust. You oughta go to work. I hope you're woman. Does papa erica. am 'cause there you go two ways. The goes to because a lot of these female work bills. They have people at home to that. Go that goes to welling yet and i. I wish we had a female who give her two cents on this. But i'm unfortunately had anyone to call in to represent them yet but we'll go ahead and keep this thing rolling and so let me let me ask you all this. And this is the eighty nine dollars and sixteen sent questions. So you know a series. I am a matter of fact on a let me Let me put this in writing that some heavy taxes under eighty nine dollars in sixteen cents questioning flow. I if somehow your work boo turns into your significant other still work together. Does she stay your work boot or do you find another if we work together. You kinda gotta play a route. You gotta you just gotta shut it down. You gotta set it down like y'all work to get if she becomes yellow lady you. You can't have them work booze now. You know just got her. You know. that's unfortunate but is this over with so we got shut a dying. Well it's if it's a mature relationship that you're in if it's a mature relationship it can work out but your ass better not be getting another work boot the if because if if you do you're gonna end up running into problems because you're real boot. She's going to be going to be going. You know in our head. I know how our relationship started. What what's he pointed. Abate y- y you got all you. Just you gotta rover real banana gal. If she becomes the yard work together we just the risk is not worth the reward in. Just gotta cut it all. You got to go to somebody else's job. I just curious about the protocol on that and snow. Because it'd be really round room ms mckenna in texas says i. We are too old to be keeping secrets and dump discussion erica. Said she doesn't see any women up here. I guess you mean on the panel. But i did ask i. Three women's join the show and unfortunately things come up so our wonderwall want to divulge secrets. I don't know maybe they're being smart about it all right so we'll get into this. Last question would get ready to to wrap things up You know i i. I've been in the work place for a long time. I've been working since. I was fifteen years old and all you have been working for all of your lives just about your adult lives. Have any of you ever either yourself or maybe saw someone else. Who had a work boo. who wasn't attractive. 'cause it saves to be that the word booze always someone were. Canada attracted to or some kind of way at least for a male perspective. I don't know how how the women feel males perspective. What are you are adversaries. were buddha. Where an attractive i. I don't think. I don't think i have the only the only time i'm going to say that the that that might happen. This could sound horrible. The guy is just a total fucking slut. I mean you know that he will. He will. Just screw screw anything. You know what. I mean but other than that i i haven't i mean yeah somebody everybody you know so can't for rubbing you i mean maybe that was. That could be a genuine friendship man. Maybe that's what it was. It was not ugly is a You know the ugliest kind of abstract. You know what i mean is not a definite ugly is like a chart. Is the spectrum so cute to me may not be someone else you know. ain't out hole. There you go okay. I wonder where. I wonder where flavor flav falls on that spectrum. Aim is somebody likes this money in hand camouflage beauty in texas china and she said she has saying it out. She said he wasn't that cute. And discussions with erica louisiana. Says some people don't care how they look. They just like the attention. Robert act we get there and a c. rare. Yeah back hand smoke in trouble. Something out of the free out was going on. But back i might let their net zero and and Erica also added sometimes ugly as universal. I'm sorr- yeah yeah. I i believe that will. And so are a ray. You ever just get you to the last question you ever noticed someone that maybe had a work. Buddha whatnot at attractive. Or maybe you've done yourself. I would say Out they most of it is forty attention of other people. You know aside. I mean back opus. Somebody basically just get the number now. Is it like all this walking around and holding hands going out to lunch and we walked out together turnaround throw him. I thought brook to the rest of the guys all For what you know what i think. That's what a lot of guys do. You know every move you you making with this boo you go back till the everybody else was going on and becky come back complex. They start doing the same thing. You know if things ain't going right you know the other girls and on that side is gonna know about it. So i think that in any relationship that you win you should pretty much the private and you walking around making it public at work you know. That's not always the thing because he can't go nowhere but down from their lankans oil azis votes were with way retired. You've seen him. You see her every time you see him and the thing about it is is okay aka go nowhere but down from there because when the ends is in really bad somebody can't come to work out. Seen people put a restraining order on each other another printing. Come to work stuff like that so it can get sticky now a diesel with somebody else and that the facts. Are you know so if it were me. I wouldn't do it i. It looks like i do have a lady who wants to chime in so let me go out to the lone star state of texas and welcome on camouflage beauty. What's going on. Hey how're you. I am outstanding the c. You you'd to a hey gentleman a so. I lost connection for a little bit. In the last part i caught was as anyone ever had a ugly work boo. Ow i have and you know what it was a good safe choice. You know what. I mean because at the end of the day i knew that i wasn't necessarily gonna sleep with this person. But he was there for emotional support. We can go to lunch every day. You know we could talk and have a good time. He was definitely the work blue but it came. It kept me safe to at the same at the same time. Because i knew and i may be wrong. But that's the truth now. That goes back to what my my definition of work boo was. You know where it is platonic you know. When i was answering the question i was. i was going by bailey's definition of work boot. So i completely agree camel right so if you had a what you call it. A work boo bet. You're interested in right. I mean let's be honest like you said somebody for everybody but not only that like little connection. Madonna's wants to join the conversation apparently My bat an emotional connection. Sometimes you know will make you Overlook certain physical aspects. You know what i mean. That's the truth and so you may not be fine. You know whatever but that person can grow on you over time you spend so much time together. You guys work in a similar setting. Let's say they may understand. You're on a different level and so before you know it you find yourself attracted to this person who you may not would have otherwise attracted to. I think it could totally happen. You're growing like a fungus. You can have that you cute. At how eighty the q- it's like those dog with a wrinkly as you know you like that ugly. He's actually cut a cute. I like him so you go to a moment of wrinkly face puppy. that's yours forever. Right and erica. Says i knew a man who was in a whole relationship at his job and had the nerve to be mad at his real wife. Another show q. I know right all right and speaking of a whole 'nother show next week. When does a man mature. You can't put an exact number on anything as far as you know. Age goes but what has to occur in his life that should make him look at the world. Much differently more unselfishly. that's tuesday september. Twenty first at seven thirty. Pm central time cast a show on youtube by searching for top two q all right so we'll go ahead and have our final thoughts a get ready to wrap this thing up and you know it's going to sound funny but i think that affect that every woman needs a work husband guide needs a word. I think everyone needs to work husband because women tend to not get along with each other so to have got it. You can trust to be honest with you on maybe your work performance or maybe how you outfit looks are thanks. That nature can be a good thing. you know. i'll i'll let you all discuss it along with any remaining thoughts. You may have as far as your final thoughts. But i i think women can can really benefit but let's go ahead and get to final thoughts and let's see ray. I'll start with you man on your final thoughts. Yeah will say In theory having a word. Google and all that it sounds good but in disdain age. I don't think you can do that. I don't think you should ever shit where you eat sold. Nowadays all conversations need to be strictly professional. I mean once in a while it can drift off to you know sports politics or this or that but as far as anything sexual out of is that people not even get into it. 'cause you have women sit around he start talking about. Oh you know putting bananas and stuff in their mouth and tammy star that get up and leave because you've got engaged in that at all so you know and a lot of people do not learn that you know you start to. Oh you like you could do that. Good next thing you know. Oh he said. I was a dick sucker. Whatever now you in trouble not only engage in that at all period. You know time it goes left any kind of way. Note anything sites that low. Goodbye with hyper growth Type of food you like all those these conversations but we started talking about personal stuff was really shouldn't do it on a job. I'll give it a single. Let's get married. Whatever the case may be. I mean you have people that you've been on job with twenty years of better you know. They like family or cousins or something like that. Maybe so but why engage in inappropriate conversation on job site when you can do it anywhere else at the bar at buffalo wild wings. You go anywhere widely so to me. The work booth thing was killed with all this new Me too and everything else. So they basically took the fun out of it because everybody can be grown folk tale jokes and stuff like we used to so we just gotta keep professional if it was me but it's good shows good topic alone is interesting to see what people have to say in seemed like weenie. Learn nothing but just had all right. Right appreciate Race that you can find them at buffalo wild when he said you can find a wayne booth for wing booth and i write bracket. Get your final thoughts sir already well. Okay so boo. Absolutely work boo. You watch that shit if you're if you're a relationship outside of work and you're thinking about a work boop then you need to think about your relationship now. I don't recommend getting in a relationship with someone you work with. If something happens it happens as long as you're both mature about it and everything but they could be trouble and i've seen it be trouble. Our right i appreciate you. China's sir good so get back to back weeks for you. Yes up while eight anytime you need me. I'm here. i'm here for you. I appreciate that. Miss mckinney agrees with oil said mister bryant i like ms mckinney are right kerry. You still there with us. I i am or give your final thoughts. Yes oh honestly. I agree with raise always dropping knowledge rights. I always love to hear what he has to say. But i agree with ray and brad to certain extent like you know. I feel like if you're going to have a work. Boo ensure a union. Abreu on the same page upfront. You know. start the conversation there as adults. I don't believe in sleeping with anybody you work with because if that goes wrong. That's going to go real wrong and if you're married or in a relationship already you should be sleeping with a work boot or any of the blue anyway because then that wife girlfriend or whatever is gonna come to that job in life that plays on five right jeopardizing your your sense of security financial freedom or whatever. The case says so i would not recommend. Put yourself in that type of situation. Because i like to say every woman as storm. They all crazy in their own way and if they tell you opposite they're lying so mean we get emotionally connected in so you have to be very careful. Gentlemen if you're going to have these work booze insured issues emotionally stable and is not just trying to cling to you in you know ruin something that could potentially be going on in your life lesson for me big fax aright bailey. Shut it down for a bra. Guess to wrap it up of you know just be respectful man and my aunt says all the time and and all your getting get understanding so but i am pro work boo. Even the you know still say you know. It's it's a vetting process. You know you have to know who you're dealing with so before you even think about getting to that point somebody that you work with. You just need to like make sure you know who they are and make sure you compatible understanding make sure is not a not supervisor employee relationship within the same period group. You both things that lose and you know build a friendship i and if it turns into that it does. If it doesn't cool you know but you know just be respectful. Get an understanding be transparent. Be honest in the end. No one has anything to be mad or upset about. Because you know you've been just one hundred from the giga so you know be honest stand on it. Don't be lying in a don't play with anybody. Don't make them think that a boost situation is more than what it is. You know what i'm saying. Just if you're gonna do it you know stand on it in know has some integrity by even do wrong. I i appreciate that. And i appreciate all of you if you can hang backstage for just a moment i go ahead and shut things down and so i wanna thank You know ray. My show legend Camouflage beauty bailey. All you in a chat room who participated Appreciate it You all a lot of a lot of fun. And that's what i do for tonight. Show people have a great week. And we'll talk about men and maturity next week on talk radio show no experts just opinions.

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He was amazing scored. Nine points talk about that. Whole story and behind the scene stories about that with him on our patriotic. But we're going to talk about the crack in which is new hockey team. That's coming to seattle his home town. And how excited. He is is like a newbie hockey fan. He is very excited. About a new franchise coming to town talking about that talk about the nba finals. And how great. It was in our thoughts on Antetokounmpo and the idea of the milwaukee bucks. It is incredible that a small market team won and the excitement of Do they have do. Does phoenix have a chance to make it back there again. We'll sort of explore all that with him. And then later on the show conversation with al gore former vice president al gore and he and we recorded before the finals as the funnels grown on. Who was he rooting for. And we'll find out i. I think it won't surprise you. That he's not a fan of the sons. Okay but before that. Let's get to our top take Amazingly another professional athlete currently playing has come out as gay. Come out of the closet. What a wonderful amazing public moment Randy and i actually personally believe. It's the beginning of a tipping point. I hope so. And and by the way this isn't like connor mcdavid coming out. You know the biggest name no crosby but it is someone who is currently playing on the nashville predators. Luke prakob the only bad thing about this is that he's a predator. You kinda don't want someone to come out as gay and also be identified as a predator. That's not a good thing. Even if it's a nashville predator hockey player but still it would have been so much. Better was just a canadian fur. Try that would have been. Maybe open the door even further. But i think this is the beginning of a tipping point because these are current players on the rosters. The dark guys who used to be in a locker room or are now coming out. We know that there are gay players in professional sports. That there was The defensive defensive end who came out of the closet in professional football for I can't remember who it was for. i'm not sure find it. He drafted so he so he just came out and he's going to be playing in the nfl. We know it. We know there are gay players in locker rooms. We know that teams know it in the locker room. They're aware of it It's not something once you get to know players and once you get to know people there's no way for people to hide it. They can't share it publicly because it's an issue unfortunately with some fans that they aren't able to accept it and support it but i think players who are looking for the reason to step out and the reason to actually be themselves and be able to live a life that is true to who they are and not tortured. It's enough to be an athlete. Yeah fan have to cover up who you are as a human being so if the locker room knows about it and they accept it. People haven't been run outta the locker room fans need to get on board and just accept these dudes for who. They are by the way their teammates. I the the predators are behind it publicly behind it. Like on social media nashville is behind this guy. We saw their teammates. I when it comes to the team. They're human being second and third is whatever it is. I mean it's their sexual orientation to tally identify. It's their political blow by the way. And that is the thing. Jay and i can understand this like a of course you know as a big supporters of gay rights and the rights of people to be whoever they want to be be at male female Nine binary whatever you are like we support you. In being be pulverized yourself purest truest form of who you are because that will allow you to be the best person that you can be the happiest and the most authentic version of yourself in the truest form so we support that every we all supportive people have different religious beliefs than us. We've support it if you know we supported if you tim tebow i support his right to believe what he believes of course in the world. No one's ever saying don't say that don't bring that out. That's that counter to what i believe. But do i believe that he shouldn't be allowed to play in the nfl and he's back he's back so there you go kind of back so i think once yeah once that become four or five more people to come out and then i think a lot rossall sport across all sports and if there's one bigger player one sort of more high always say lewis type guy came out burson where it's harder to sort of reconcile that his are onfield persona with this lifestyle if it causes people to be maybe a little confused about their opinions about it. I think that will shake it up even and will allow even more people to come forward and for it to just all be out the open. Which is what people want the messages that the message that this guy the the nhl player in the nfl player gave on social media and the way they spoke about it to me was so beautiful in the way in terms of how it opened the door for people who may be in their lives feeling. Like i can't share. Who i am with the people that i'm close with it to me this. These are pioneering moves and i think with combined with social media and something that they can then get passed around is extraordinarily positive thing and in those moments. I say you know what for all those people who hate sports. This may be the thing that opens it up to society even more. That's right so there you go all. Let's take a break on the other side of the break. We'll talk to adam. Ray very excited for this conversation. A lot of fun. Don't go anywhere. When was the last time you did something just for you. Discover your summer essentials with fat fifth fun. 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Blue choose tablets are made in the united states and prepared and shipped direct your door in a discreet package and also they always say that. First impressions are important. You guys what about lasting quote unquote impressions. You know what i mean talking about. Boehner's so listen if you could benefit from the extra confidence when it's time to perform blue shoe can help and we've got a special deal for our listeners. Try blue free when you use promo code text at checkout. Just pay. Five dollars shipping. That's blue dot com promo code text to receive your first month free visit blue shoe dot com for more details and important safety information and we think blue for sponsoring the podcast and also ladies blue is exclusively for men. But you know the end result is something that you both enjoy. Sa- get your man to sign up up a as welcome back to the show so psyched to have this gentleman with us Love his podcasting. Love his standup and stuff that he's been putting online Is incredible follow on instagram. So so good. I love it so much and and you know why why adam raise our just talking about this today about why it does it demonstrates all the things you do which you're so talented in so many ways you can do characters and you illustrate those highlight those in the work you put into make your character stuff funny and like the face changing and all the stuff that you do. But it's not just a good impression because that exists on tick-tock and whatnot out in the world. It's like a well thought out and well-constructed bit all the way through and that is comes from your stand up which you post a lot of great stand up on their which remarkably is a lot of crowd. Work was expendable disposable totally and that's I actually got into a. I appreciate all the nice words you guys are. The only people break comedy atom ray comedy in both exactly the only people that have sent more nice. Things are my mom's friends from temple. Great i love him. Who still to this day. Sandra bullock smell like Does she smoke cookies. Yeah exactly you know what. She smells like the blinds for bird. Box that there's a certain amount of like people that look at crou- work and go. Oh that's lazy for not doing jokes. But what i always say when people. There's a buddy of mine who was like who and putting that on like just like you said it's expendable and i'm like you're only looking at that one clip thinking that's what the show is. That's coming out of a our ten fifteen minute show with. There's at least fifty to fifty five minutes of jokes and the crowd is all pepperdine because for me. One of the first sets. I saw was patrice o'neal at the punchline And i saw him brilliantly. Do two hours. Plus of of material and crou- work and i was just saying that looks like the best. That was the most fun to enjoy. Any seamlessly went one to the other and then strung together. All the crowd work things at the end amazing and i was like whoa aim to like you know follow in those footsteps but it diane but a- who i hope to get to fifty. Yeah you never know really era with with the way you live in the fact that you used to be fat creates a concert. I mean even do you have used. Probably have diabetes like coursing. Through your get those coursing through your. It's probably get them back. I mean definitely. I saw videos of you playing basketball when you were twelve. Yeah the greatest thing i've ever. How do you even curb that for kids. Now 'cause i when like one of my nieces getting kind of digger. And i'm like i don't say anything she's gonna take no. You don't write. Mom said she goes. That's why allowed you to get as big as you were. I was like when. I was barring your bras. That should have been assigned. Maybe this guy should get on a treadmill. But she's like i dad or grit stretching out my shit i had this new job gets all these You know when you do a new bit and it just gets mostly odds but some laughs for you go. I don't wanna get like. I'm gonna keep doing it. Yes my sister was adopted. And i in this bit i go You know 'cause we've reconnected over quarantine and talk about strengthening relationships. And i go You know we used to fight all the time. Typical sibling rivalry. You know where it was like you know she would You know Through my ninja turtle the toilet You know i would locker in the garage. She'd break out A cup maker smell. She throw high heel shoe at my back. I'd hit the ground. Pretend to be paralyzed. She'd make fun of me for for being fat and having bigger than our mom. I'd be like you mean my mom adopted. Yeah and that gets like oh don't talladega. I love that. And then i have to go into a how i want to adopt a kid just to kind of like soften the blow which is true. Maybe it's just you can tell the commission so work better with you and you don't say aw get the fuck outta here. I adopted a two. I'm allowed to advocate. I kind of love but doubted. Get seventy five percents. There's the bit on the end. Say i'm going. I if i'm actually going to adopt a kid so that you can't do that that you say hey i just so i know what it's like to love. How do you guys even deal with that now. Do you get almost upset at audio as adopted. I don't know if you know. Yeah randy was. I was on parents and other family. I know that you're joking. Goddamn that i'm telling you this moment or i you're foolish. So how do we deal with the like so coming out of a pandemic. Because i feel like there's for me i'm like god like we like you should have a little bit more of a leading the guard down mentality because we don't get mad at audiences. Sometimes we'll be like really really. That was what got you. You didn't let you didn't you weren't moved by the eight other things that we said before that but let you know it's like there's no room to even get mad. Just we just move on guys move onto this thing but nonetheless. I say this to all of our fans are listening and whatnot. A tremendous follow. Adam raikov please check them out and amazing on hacks so good. I just finally watched. I saw the clip on your thing. But i watched the whole episode episode. Right turning-point good and you and you played a horrible person which opposite of who you are as human being. I mean the the other reason and the reason why you're on this show Is that you are a sports fan. Are you've played in celebrity Nba celebrity man ballgame. Which was insane. We'll talk about that. On our patron patriots. Fans will hear stories about that from that. But you are a true as we are saint louis fans with all things saint louis your seattle fan through and through. I mean it still hurts you. That the sonics aren't there like it still hurts still hurts a little bit made the nba tough to watch for a little bit Definitely not going to root for okay. See no joke. Basketball is right now. I think it's still. It's always been my favorite sport. But once the hawks got real good and baseball with the mariners was always great. Which by the way. I have to remind myself with baseball. Throw the first pitch two years ago. And now i'm going to try to get me to let me sing the national anthem all mike. But they're like so. You have to send a tape. 'cause i got no the people that make these choices. Okay the by the way. It is not an easy song. And i hearken you go and watch carl lewis do it because i've watched it many times like there's a point in the saw like oh i'll get you back but like it is hard it's You can do it. Do you think you can do it. I well. I have to go. 'cause i've seen other comedians do it. And it's like adam to mind today. He's the dodgers but he sounds he can see carrie. Nobody's feeling totally and he was still doing. A comedic like version of goofy face version of it but so i don't know if there if i need to try to sing it. He he now. He's got this listen to how confident he is. This is adam devine getting okay here. It goes no. He's fine right here. He's like i got this. I got this. i'm so happy. I wore a cranberry suit. I feel great attack. Okay wrong starting to lose to lose like a little dicey. This is where it and this is the point where boise starts to break. Oh he said oh yeah he said oh trying to get through it so fast. Right here is wedding swap sweating. I'll get tobacco pool. Some action on it is. I'll make up for it now. Now do you think he's gonna go up at the end. What do you think he goes down. You think so. I can do that. Can't nope nope we couldn't do it. He's like shaking his can't start flirting around with stuff here. By the way my god the fact that he got through it and talk through it. That's almost like a comedian acknowledging. Lynn vaughan got guys players with their shirts over there. Hey over their face it. We'll see that's now. What would you rather adam having to if that happened when i was doing the jazzy version of it at the nba. Yeah i mean that was just like popeye. S that was. I thought she was gonna open a kid and believe -able you guys ever want to do something like that. I wouldn't necessarily nationally. Their goddamn comedy together would be special. There's no way we we have thrown out. The first pitch at garth. Game and randy are joke was that he threw it so far left that he brushed back. Rachel maddow thank you like. There's eighty nine year old guy to You know photographers for photography. The the event and he just basically was standing on that side and threw it nailed him in the shin. And i felt so bad. I mean you know. Old people's bones are brittle dude soft. So i was like this guy and they were gonna be able to walk in. It's my fault. I put contusion on this guy. Shantou occur bonnets sunk. It right over guy though a contusions coming your way at some point so so so seattle the seattle mariners pump the we. They almost left to tampa bay in ninety five. So anytime we've even had a bad season. I'm always just like dude. Thank we still got so right now. We're competitive so yeah dude. I was really excited to see okay. There are a couple of games and certainly that western division is very interesting with oakland and with houston. So i really love that. The mariners are like back in the thick of there in the mix because baseball up. There is just. I think that park is so beautiful. Everything up there the fans up there that we have a yeah. It's one of the best organizations with the most success without a world series. So i think we now have the longest playoff drought in all professional sports. Since two thousand one that we haven't been to the postseason or maybe even a champion were. The only team has won a championship. Once the nationals Growl and then not even the royals like. But it's about the. It's not like that you didn't have big personality and really you want to be as a sports fan. Did you have a time that you got to experience whether it was like growing up and as an adult right so did you get to enjoy ken. Griffey junior probably one of the greatest players of all time. The guy who didn't do allegedly didn't do any steroids. There's no but if you say that griffey did diver so much. Let's say you're like you're not on anything right. We're on steroids. He would healed way quicker griffin. I'm like oh year what barry bonds would have been. If he didn't do steroid thousand percent he would chunky like. That's what happens when you see him at the at this. Most latest helix so old he looked old and it was like it was like camp on the cracking stage. First of all get him assured that fits too. That's my on the craft book like that is. I don't think cracking is the crack in is the new hockey team. Just had the expansion draft which is really exciting. They lead an octopus. Make the first pick for my octopus teacher. This for my root picker to comment on our fan base. Like that's why the sounders and soccer did well wants a sonics left definitely opened. I think the state up to being like. Oh how diehard are we for all athletics even the storm. Get a good turnout and held down the court with championships. But like are they gonna play keyarena. Is that what they're gonna say. It's now called climate. Pledge right. I mean it's ground so i know they're going to be unbelievable and think about what's the newest arena that we've had other than what vegas and the last five to ten years. That's right that's only any new. Arenas very cool like it's gonna attract. I've already looked at the schedule. The amount of concerts they got booked. Up blackie dude hockey i i love the name. Like normally yeah. I don't like you guys are the hockey fan. So i want to hear from your perspective. I think the name is incredible. I saw a has incredible. I think the name is it's fascinating. It's not a weather thing which i think. We can't even joke about like the carolina hurricanes like who to root for hurricanes. Nobody destroy people's lives. Yeah terrible it's like we're gonna call them. The seattle flash floods no. We're not gonna do that. I actually think watch so we said well. That's a bad example. Because that's a great name team should have been called the seattle freeze because if people say this about seattle and you maybe know this hard. If you're not from seattle to lake friends. Hard to break in france group freeze you out. Yeah so that seattle homeless seattle free. You're not paying attention to me on defense. Well they're giving you the freeze out. You got gotta get them questions about their lives yet. Don't ever named a sports team. After just like a previous legend that kind of you know made put the state on the map. I think portland got a baseball team. Should be called the portland hipsters. What i'm saying with a like what if this. What if they went with like you know what would have. Jay was even bigger seattle cisco partners some saying or no for seattle for the hockey team like if it instead of the crack and it was the buehner so there is a ma in pike's market there is a Right next to the original starbucks there is a russian bakery. Oh yeah perot's keeper. Brosky the seattle perot ski those seattle pirogies the perogie or that'd be nice. Maybe that's what the fans dress up. There's a whole section behind the glass of guys dressed like someone scores. A hat trick. They just throw. Baroque is on the ice. These great ideas. I need to hit up the mohawk beans market. Just a whole bunch of coffee beans on the ice already nicknaming. I think the climate pledge like the crack house crackheads. This is fun it's fun. Tell me with with hockey camps. Say crickets. There's no way that all the politically correct culture of this day will call themselves crackheads. And if they do they will get like roasted terribly right. But i do think the krakow's actually think that's a bad idea to but i think it's great. It's it you can do it. Unofficially they are not gonna sign on like crack so that's But i love the name the crack in but people dressed up like crackheads. Like is there a problem i think it's it's not icy up in seattle. It never gets like so bad well. East coast rain We get drizzly. The best thing we ever cast the best thing i ever heard about why people drive so slowly and horribly and seattle was someone said to us. They said it was too sunny out. Flares you clear. And i wasn't able i. I didn't know what to do like the. Oh so you had too much vision through your through your shield Dense fog driving through foot. My fog lights on and so it was just. I didn't know how to grasp the all these things in my. I did love seeing such a panoramic view. The road got distracted Now what was the thing. The it wasn't like the big dig but yeah the drill like there was like they're going to drill a tunnel underneath something really. Yeah was in seattle monorail or a subway system now or an above ground that monorail i guess above elevated train and apparently back in the world's fair i think when the world's fair was going to happen in seattle in man to seventy or sixty nine maybe yeah When they made the space needle yes which is what they would they made for. I guess they. Whoever was building. These subway systems came to seattle and was like it was between us in chicago and the people who were in charge of seattle was like nah. It's not going to become metropolis of a place to live so down for a pass. And i mean we are just regretting that because so many people live there and it is like a beautiful awesome sits city ever and it should. It deserves a public. Transit system deserves public transit system. It deserves A basketball team and the hockey team is one. Step closer that that's what the arena. That's what i'm truly fired up about because the arena will be something you can say all right now. Let's go. That's where the team that's what the nba was like dude great keyarena and and there's new arena. I mean for hockey. You know it's it. Looks like it's going to be dope and what i love. Is that the ticket soda very quick. Of course i also love that. I've always been a casual hockey fan right and the games i've watched a on. Tv like the last time. I remember that was truly amazing. Was the usa. Canada olympic final was maybe five years ago. two thousand fourteen. Not i remember that being just sat crosby scored the final believable. It's like the greatest. It was right okay because again being a casual like this feels pretty A alexis great first of all the hockey is the most fun thing to watch live. Four live kid out replaced on mazing. I highly recommend trying to get a seat behind the goal. So you can watch all the place develop any wanted high up to watch all the plays developing. It's just super cool to kind of watch defensive. Get sad and offensive. Start out of their own zone and it is like a beautiful and violent sport all in one. It's like have you fast always itself so graceful skating and then just elbows to the dick like elway. That's yeah it's sticks to dig it. Yeah i was the dixie dick. Where's the range of like. Where is there. You can't do that but like the what other work today. What are the sports do. They just lie to start fighting like let them fight around will break it out. When do refs are required. Required to intervene. I think when they get to the ground and they feel like parental approach like imagine. You're adopted sister. Through the through the heightened mom until both you had fought so hard that you were like hiding hard on the ground and interrupts like okay all right this is the mentality. Take a parental mentality a blade to the neck if a players like i'm gonna do i'm gonna do a break the i never have. I can't wait for all things. That hockey brings especially again. A new sport was small. Let's yada drinking Daily and by the way it's different than then the seattle sounders which. I give seattle a ton of credit for like building this great hockey abilities. Great soccer rivalry will orient. It's so good idea. Well there's gonna be a great. Hopefully if if the crack and can start off the way. Las vegas did the golden knights. Did i mean. They came into the league couple years ago and they've already been to the stanley cup to alter the final four like three times right. So imagine if you have like a good team that is actually really good out of the gates. There will be a vancouver. I think there will be a vancouver seattle rivalry. How great with happy right. Did that would be the so again as you can i love. Regional rivalries again is why the portland timbers and the seattle sounders is so fascinating. Because portland's like we're a better city than you and cooler than you corporate seattle. You don't understand we're we're there. We're the real deal better food trucks than you. It'd be like boils down to like the smart right. They did they actually do. I is there okay. So here's what. I know about hockey going in. Yeah i'm going to name some players. I know wayne gretzky. Shy played fair. The whatever the hockey game for playstation was was a game day. No that was football. Which is the one they were playing. Nhl nine years. In swingers airplane fluid played that as a kid loved gretzky played floor hockey in elementary school floor. Hockey i loved. There was a kidney wheeler who played actual hockey loved. That remember that name. So he would wheeler gang shoot from opposite. It was all on the carpet. They'd just redone are element harper. Are we had carpet so we had after school basketball and flawn on the carpet basketball on the carpet and great. It's awesome i mean was like thick bounces and But this kid stewart would fucking flinging slip it from the opposite end was mind boggling. I love but so even that made me interested in hockey. 'cause i was like holy shit. I'm watching a kid who actually plays on realize crush on the carpet you know. Does the ice match the carpet as the kids discuss the ice match. The carpet is a big question. That a lot of kids. I you know i think i. What's amazing. is that usually with when teams get expanded and you actually touch on this. J. vegas was not supposed to be good and they've been good so he's all about. Who's your goalie in hawaii. What did you guys get a great goalie. If you guys get the montreal. Canadians goalie carey price. Who had a great run and they made it all the way the finals this last year and he is really one of the best goal he saw. What if you got him. What if you got like if you have a good goal is still on the table. Yeah because the draft stuff like guys you never know rates get or aids get made and they end each team. I think has a one player that you can go to the expand. So that's where i wasn't aware of and that's where the draft expansion draft is so cool. Apparently it's there's every team has can protect how many people i think there's like maybe one or two guys that you can't pretend twenty seven is just open season. No no you know you protect a bunch. But there's like one or two that you don't protect that they're like you you can come and take these guys show and so the the fascinating thing for me is that for. There are thirty guys. We think about it in terms of comedians comedians. Who really want to get up and perform at the comedy store. Okay who really want their shot and they're good and they're really good but it's just jammed. It's like impossible to get spots the comedy store. We put in for as many as we can. We get one a week for like. It's just a lot of people here know. But then all of a sudden like joe rogan moves to austin texas and sodas thomas agoura and joey diaz moves today opening their site. There's an but the point. Is that like suddenly. There's more slats it. There's more times and then and then there's a wave of like ten to fifteen new comedians. Who didn't get the shot. But they're amazing and they come and they just are crushing it because there's opportunity. There are thirty hockey guys out there right now that are saying to themselves with this expansion and the new team. I'm going to get a ten. Get a chance to play which to me is exciting. You've got like that next wave of people because they're gonna be superstars waiting in the wings off the opportunity and also there's something very cool and this'll be cool in the sonnets comeback about being key. I watched that. I could put an end No direction again. What all things. Not in that order. I want but but just to have a the the The owner said it on the stage for the draft where he was like. You guys are a part of the i like. This is the first crack team and him saying that was very cool. It'd be lights historic always going to be known as the first crack team. And that's very cool. I just need seattle is going to support it. I think it's exciting. I'm glad that there's hockey going to for me. I always say that. I love hockey going to a city that it kind of fits and it makes sense. Yeah right the city that makes sense like if they're like. Hey we're doing a new hockey team in el paso texas or austin texas. I'd be like a hockey awesome. Your basketball team down there you basketball. And that is part of the reason why we it was so frustrating that like tampa bay fans. Because you're like outside of the walls of this arena. How many people in tampa bay care saw like it's the same so there's certain places that have teams that montreal like montreal who played ten person walking down. The street in montreal knows more about the canadians than the normal person on math in tampa bay. Who's trying to walk their alligator with their shirt and shoes off down. The probably doesn't probably couldn't tell you who the grind line on their team was. So i mean that's why we're saying this is actually don't know what the grind line is. She lives her. You do you do with the grind line is do you. Give me the top teams in hockey. That i should be paying it. I know the ducks because of our boy melia estevez right. Some fan of them right out of the eighth graders so unbelievable about this team of eighth graders to the nhl final. I realized so. Don't go back and watch it. Here's who's going to be done. And i'm a sucker for old franchises like the original six so islanders are going to be good and new york. Islanders will be good. They almost made his hand. The cup tampa bay will be great again next year. Vegas is always good. They've got a great team. I think nashville has a team. That's really good. That could eventually. The predators also had the rangers so has the rangers. Long island has islanders new york islanders. So there that And so those in my opinion are really the good teams the blues. Were okay for a while but not really. Colorado avalanche has a great ti. They're really good. So i mean those are the teams that kind of look for sharks think i had a starter jacket that was san jose sharks enters ninety eight sharks start. He'll actually think. I wasn't bought me from my mother. I think i had a sonic starter jacket. And then she was like an incentive classic whereas there is it. She gave it away because this was like it didn't fit anymore. I was like fucking corset. Did it was five sizes. Too big now fits perfectly perfect sharks jacket that i think i took from a lost and found that the person said they. This has been here for weeks. And i was like jagged anymore not anymore. I'll take i'll take it off your head well so is goodwill yet it There's there's so much about hockey. That i wanna go back now and investigate them. You hear the guys. I know of right bet. Ski lemieux these all. It was a melon and he's got a boston bruin guy no he was famous boston. Bruin guy there's many famous let me was mu as a penguins was paying was pittsburgh penguins who is a guy member play left-hander in i'm thinking of fulton read from eighty ducks but there. He was the fucking who was knuckle puck kenan thompson. Who was was the boss. There was a left handed. Boris is named boris. No the boston bruins left-handed no. I don't know famous guy on the cam cam. Nealy cam cam. Nealy was famous comedy specials with With dennis leary in boston with. Oh yes yes comics come home come home. That was all cam nealy Can't think of it. i can't comeback. We got some quick hits to discuss with and we didn't even talk about the nba. Finals was antetokounmpo. We'll talk a little bit about that on the side. Adam raise our great guests. You're not following him on his social media adamant comedy. What are you doing do it and follow us to be right back. We're all trying to eat better but healthy breakfast. Magic spoon the amazing flavors you love but without all the bads zero grams of sugar. There's thirteen to fourteen grams of protein. There's only four net grams of carbs each serving and eat serving. only one hundred forty calories. Yeah and for people who wanted to kito friendly gluten free grain. Free soy free low-carbon. Gmo very california. Cool that's what this has and when you buy it comes in this really cool variety pack four flavors which are cocoa fruity. 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It's going to be so much fun. All right Before we get into quick hits atom. Ray i gotta ask you a question about the nba finals. Did you watch where did glued to it. Loo- tuite i Are you excited for a small market team. Like l. to away love janas. You know what. I yes i do. i think. Just because especially if you Have seen his progression. Like oh yeah. He was six nine hundred ninety when he came in the league. Totally and a guy who was like a eleven handle the ball. Six eleven to forty people. Forget that these superstars even kobe and lebron like you know. Lebron actually not as much as as kobe like having an adjustment period and really acclimating to the league. Ron was pretty phenomenal right out of the gate and he had to be totally and kobe. Even those i for years had to grow in and lead out. He did but it's so same thing with like comedy like we look at people that are so at the top of their game and failed to recognize like the years man. And so if you really look at janas grow. That's pretty remarkable. And i think he it's great for a small market team. I think it's hilarious. That they look middleton and drew. Holiday are so great. And i think it's on middleton was a second round pick and drew holiday was a guy who played for the pelicans who took some time off a basketball for his wife who is a professional soccer player. It is a fascinating story and both guys are just good role players who stepped. Pj tucker another other role player on houston who they literally. What's amazing to me. Bobby bobby portis yeah. What's bobby portis speech. after one. And he's just like his eyes were wide open and he was like man. I can't believe i'm here and this is the best thing ever happened in my career. And i'm like these guys loved it. They were so great. But it may set the blueprint for other teams for when the sonics comeback to seattle in. How you build your team just one great superstar and a bunch of other role players that can helping olympic games going to go back to that a little bit. I think the super i think will. Here's the problem with super teams is. I mean it's about a couple of things one it's about who can stay healthy. They almost lost jaanus. If they did. They would lost the series. Yeah that's but in fact that he played is remarkable and then the fact that he played as well as he did on a closeout game to score fifty points fifty years after they won their last championship for him to go. Seventeen of nineteen at the line. The free throw line when he was like just biz mwale. Yeah is like teams that win in the end in the history of the nba. The teams that win their superstars show up and give superstar performance. Paul did a great performance. But it wasn't superstar devon booker kind of shrunk in this last moment. But he's a young kid. He's a great for a long time. If chris paul sticks running plays for them. Do you think they'd get back Phoenix i don't know how good the rest the teams in the west or eighty coach. Mazey's seat i love monty williams. The seas part a little bit for them injuries. They were on. The west into the lakers were non-existent. The clippers lost co. i think the clippers had And paul george. There's no way the clippers would have gone to the final on. Yeah i think the clippers would want it all truthfully how good the truth is like i love even team and a guy like luca danni which i think like i mean. That team is so dangerous so dangerous so like i think basketball is in the best shape. It campa you want the wealth spread around anyone as many fan bases to go into a season saying us So dallas you're people in dallas there like we gotta shot the in. La both the lakers and the clippers are like no. No this is us phoenix's like we can get back there. It's amazing goal. Utah's always in utah. Utah's like for is like wow but that utah mountain time zone. You're talking about regional Things in terms of the quits. Forget him on a fan. A fan was banned from every baseball stadium for hitting red sox player a red sox player with the ball. We're now getting to this exist. Fan eve bartman steve. Bartman sisters like you throw like so alex. Verduga tried to flip a ball. Of course it's a yankees fan. Tried to flip a ball to a red sox fan which is kind of on him. It's don't don't do that new york gay to new york if you were to throw something to someone in new york on the subway it's going to get thrown back so a yankees fan intercepted intercepted his flip up to the red sox and then all of the other yankees fans started going throw back like it becomes like a date rare pressures way. I'm sorry it was in fenway. No new york new york yankee stadium so for do goes out in the outfield. He throws goes to throw the ball to a boston fan. Who's in yankee stadium. The yankees fan intercepts it and then everyone starts chanting. Throw it throw it. Throw it which you can understand the interception. Because it's like. Hey man like that's the yankee fans being like. I don't want you guys connecting. Yeah over anything a moment in my house. Hey throw it at the guy to tell me through and give it to a yankee fan them so they banned him from all stadiums. But i'm like how is that anyone gonna know you have to now. Educate all of your ticket takers to look for this guy. Do you know how easy it is to buy. Cheap mustache right. I mean off ticket okay. So he's not allowed to so he's not allowed to buy tickets online officially scout particular. Bite off the stubhub. You this getting in. This is not a good punishment. We've said this. All along. And i said no needs to be stadium jail. Yep put him in stadium jail under knee and put them on the big screen and put things in there like. I don't know how you rats rats pizza from new york subway. Every baseball stadium is looking for more in game. Entertain latium jail fucking idiot jail for like weeks and you just say i was thinking but i didn't get the whole fan base to start channing. Released the rats. Maybe that's where the streakers go. You know what i'm saying you gotta now stand with someone with a shriveled pena's sitting next year warriors and you put in like release the rats the rats released stadium jarring nazi german. National team left the field in a tune-up matt for the tokyo olympics Us by the way it did not qualify state. That us is just in soccer. Roth women seem to their impression of the mencia loss but the german team left the field after one of their players received a racist. Taunt from one honduran player. That's right jordan. Toronto rica is the child of nigerian immigrants. You know this is not unlike jonah story okay. He's german but he's child of nigerian immigrants by the way it's gotta feel good for germany for wants to be like. Hey we were targeted by racists. You know. they're leaving the field. We're taking our bali going home. We're not the bad guy in the race. Historian right Although the dude has face racism in germany. I need to say germany. Hasn't their hands aren't cleaner this. I'm glad i'm glad that the german team stood up and walked out right. Yeah they should and honduras seriously. It's going to raise his gonna come from honduras come on austria get your next special guatemala. Ab sweden or denmark but honduras colorado would be good if they agree on under on A story sake. One barkley will be accepting all his future. Endorsement money in the form of bitcoin stupid. Why because he's gotten used to losing with the giants and he wants to same failing list financial portfolio. I guess what is the. Have you guys gone down the rabbit hole bitcoin. I couldn't even tell you so here so commission the but i also feel like it's a little cunanan where it's like i know i i hear like bits and pieces and i'm like man not for me like people that are like thomas is pretty convincing kid. Big and you're like all right go invest in what you're going to invest in its right. We have different thought. He didn't now. Here's her cipher. Lights the same. Feel about gambling in vegas. We worked so hard to make every dollar. We make it. we're hustler rubbing sticks together to get a fire going in the tv show alone dotson. Who where we are in our lives. That's the career we've chosen. That's the business. People aren't just throwing money at us. Bonuses left and right were hustling to make everything happen. So why would i sit down at a table in in in like an hour and a half lose to thousands of those dollars. It's just with i. I can't do that. Doesn't feel good same thing with bitcoin. Why should i you know you always hear from you. Like oh you got to get into bitcoin. You gotta check it out. It's like i have this. Bitcoin that's worth. I bought it at seven thousand dollars about seven thousand. Now it's worth sixty five thousand dollars. You know wow that's amazing that's huge going to sell it now. I'm going to hang onto it and then later you're like house at sixty five thousand dollars. Bitcoin you're like oh it's down to one. Well you lost six thousand dollars three days. God like i can't live on that role that shit my pants. Why would you want to get paid in a currency that is that you could totally so saquon barkley. You're making finer make an eleven million dollars. Yes playing with house money when it comes to. This is just -dorsements money on top of that. You're not going to go broke. I understand that but like what. If you're endorsing. Money equals like four million dollars. You put it all into a bitcoin and then suddenly that becomes two hundred and fifty thousand dollars but you still got to go out and like do the endorsements you still gotta go through the commercials. He's getting like six dollars an hour as a off the table also once. Somebody told me that you could Afar could be nfc. I'm out seems like it's not a business for me. And that is what Ally manning was going to get paid in florence cooperman. Adam ray appreciate you. We're gonna do a a for a patriot. Fans wanna ask him a question about his Performance in the celebrity basketball tournament championship game. We'll call it a championship game. Though there were no tournaments and no games We have a special interview on the other. Side of this break with Al gore personnel vice president former vice president. Al gore was that for last week. That's this week so vice president al gore. We interviewed him last week about Who he was rooting for in the nba finals and You can guess that he was not a big fan of the sun. No no not as the inconvenient truth. We're talking about the break so don't go anywhere. Thanks so much play. Pull hotel st ships. A sharks plans in this episode is brought to you by hp plus in a world full of smart devices. Shouldn't your printer be smart to it is with hp plus these printers. No when they're running low so you always get the anc me delivered right when you needed. Plus you save up to fifty percent on inc so you can print whatever you want as much as you want any time you want. That is pretty smart. Get six three months of instinct when you choose. Hp plus conditions apply visit hp dot com slash. Smart for details. Hey guys welcome back to the show of very very excited to have This next gentleman on he is the architect of. I'm gonna sit. I'm gonna give him credit for the created. The of the internet as people try to make that joke that he didn't do it rainy. Remember when we were in college and we were softwares collagen. Someone called my phone line and said do you want to work on the information superhighway like what. We don't know it might have been someone who worked for this guy of course talking about the great l. gore and what i want is president now former vice president and it could have been president. If the right chad's were hanging the right way. Al gore is with us in the right. Yeah ironically man's name. I would remember him. His name was chad okay. I didn't know that he worked for me for a very brief time. They went on to join the starbucks. community very successful invested very early. And of course doing quite washer selling. Ask you about the the notion of the i saw. Are you following the nba finals. Because you know someone told me that you were a huge nba fan following. Mpa file is vladimir. Putin involved in the ransomware scheme happened. Absolutely so i guess you are. I guess you are question. Answer indeed so. Who are you rooting for. I mean it's you see and you're talking about phoenix and milwaukee you. You're a man of the country but like who what where do your allegiances line exactly. Where were well. Here's the problem fellas. I am a man of the country but more than that. I'm a man of the plant gas work at what's happening today. Not only in the united states but across the world exactly that we have a team in the phoenix suns Who have in their very name. A word that right now is demonstrably causing in a measurable amount of damage. There are handed you that. We don't need another son. So i cannot route for the sun for that reason and by the way i talked to adam silver about this. I said adam. You're making a mistake. Do not let us pass well. Well l. day and age of election fraud accusations. What you want me to do you want me to have them. Take up a fall to flop myself. Well that's your. That's your call c. Left it open for him to possibly create flop. Well look what's worse. Having the sun fall for one season or having the sun fall for all time that's kind of cloud of dust. Yeah wow that is bleak but it is so important. Would you rather have the apocalypse or the la. The apocalypse or the la clips is really fair. What if they were called the phoenix apocalypse. I mean because it's a hundred hundred hundred thirty in los angeles. The lakes are in the midwest. Originally was a team from minnesota. It was the minnesota lakers. Whatever you call them. You was predicting that the pacific ocean will one day be allowed so distant future bill. It's so true. Bought the phoenix zombies or the phoenix. Fake boobs right. I like that. Phoenix blue chunky jewelry sold to women. Who you're you're getting. You're getting hotter getting hot in here. That's right how about the phoenix misters. Because you ever go to a restaurant in phoenix. There's always outdoors out. There seems to be an insinuation that i won't follow down. Okay got it. Got it got us. I will you go. Al gore has has emphatically stated. He will not root for the phoenix. Did not root for the. Although although i will say i will say dario saric a great player. One that i really appreciate you know. He wouldn't even be here. If it wasn't for my and president clinton stewardship of the bosnian conflict points you are sorry croats serbs slow bohdan. Milosa bit handled it. Yeah and then you throw in bombs at him one bomb from downtown. Well put al. It's fun to talk. Sports go much fun funding. Talk sports with albor. I mean and i would say that you know what that is. I call that a convenient tr- there you go al gore. Thanks for joining us. Hey hey this is al gore on the ones and twos. I can play a strong four. But i like getting down and dirty at the five you do. I love it. Hey he can switch him on anybody and he can defend the way he defends. That's why i can not bet you could pick and pop whenever you had a chain you seen the rim. A lot is in my days. When i've seen a lot around all right there. You go for al gore. Thank you so much good to have you turn off that as keeping up to eighty degrees we will. We will all right al gore. That was incredible. Al gore gotta give props to the man himself For joining in. I mean. I'm sure he was excited. That the sun's didn't win in the end and this is a victory for animals. Bucks it's we're not buckling under the pressure of the you know Increased sunlight. And i know that that's important to him to keep moving forward and that is show. Thank you adam ray. follows on patriots for new episodes cheap seats and extra content. Like the great stories that atom ray told about his time at the celebrity all star game. 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Savages Hitting Important Topics  Episode 33

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Savages Hitting Important Topics Episode 33

"You're listening to the podcast, Detroit. Visit WWW dot pass Detroit dot com before information are so y'all some sounds light to start to show off with a song, right? So I'm gonna say like the first few leagues. And then if you notice all, which are probably do to each other, like, you know, follow a women she. All right. So here we go. Well take mile horse to old town. No. Shit shots. A little thanks bro, like bro. He's really blowing up off of that song, little everywhere he's, he's ending segregation, like in all the parts that they're sick. Because he's Wrangler people mad about the jeans they boycott and Wrangler. First of all, first of all, they can kiss my ass in his to lay fuck him. I mean, I fucked bras. That's what I'm saying. Major white outrage over, like Wrangler, give him a sponsorship, man, we let him and hill, route for fucking ten years, when you say shit show, we let him and say, Dan, where he is. Yang man him, right? I want to hear seriously rest and peas MAG Miller. We let him. Mac back. Miller was actually cool. He's a cool. Why love Justin be rescinded in that charter Scott song that wasn't just that was Naff now? I'm gonna Justin Bieber said, nigga? No. Nigger you talking about beeps in the Trump. Yeah. Now, now, he was on there, like one less lonely. Nigger UNC. He was by blatantly just singing. Esa. He was like youngest foot will I he was? I don't think that matter. But he was like you gotta look there. Should've first of all, lots a lot smaller fucker ever. He's not allowed to station like that ever. No logic, God, one more time to say this shit logic beginning at all. But we just lean but he did a pass. We all want an hour. No, he white knows what to stop saying, you know, he'd been getting it off. He looks like he looks he is racially was ambushed. Doc actually begin twenty five minute. I just life so hard. Because guys remember, remember, look at my father look at it true. True. Am I get it while you can go, but he's gotta stop saying Drake to, to drape Canadian, you're a Canadian, Jew Hispanic or some Drake Hispanic he Jewish? Yeah. His mom bloat. Case over bad black Jewish religion. Nah, you can, you know Jews have like we never seen black Jews dis-. They have nothing characteristics. Listen name is ju- shy isn't now. He got converted though. Yeah. You could get you his dad was. Been over there or something like that. I was reading. But you can look Jewish. We haven't like. We haven't like the lube curly sideburns, and like the shit. Use Jewish people, earn whatever a group and a nation originating from the Israelites Israelites and Hebrews of historical Israel Judah. So these I guess it is an ethnicity. Anna religion. So it's both Joe Dumez. I. Joe dummies Sean a correct me shit, and he just didn't know don't. Hey, let's introduce. Please say some old dumb shit children. Nah, man. You pause me earlier. You pushed me into the man you see the hand. Anyway civilized right now. I mean, the here, not you pus me soon as you saw me. Slow me. Civilized would not actually is because you can kill somebody non. They just see him into let killing that's not the civil still alive. Nicosia. Did you? That's a fuck. No way to say. How does somebody have? Haven't seen you three weeks bowel bits taken friendly abuse of like that. Like I punched my why. Why do you ain't never see head how people? Post Chris rock. The people I love, I guess a heart not a real punch. You know, I guess, now we know we do punch. News fucking like three weeks. How tap. Patrice o'neal. He was watching Kevin Hart. Do comedy. You got mad at him through through a phone book Adams that bitch, you ain't funny. Really? Actually. That's. Damn man. David. Stay still make fumbles. Yeah. They made the white pages. The yellow pages is like that big. But the white pages was like actual like your neighbors, and to keep warm. Throw at people when they're not, obviously. Anyway, man before we go any farther, we got introduce ourselves. We gotta say something very important. This is our season finale episode, I guess, I don't really know what else to call it. But. Yeah. We will be switching studios, and you just want to give a shout out to pack as each wait for making this show pretty dope. Two years, mayor really, really, really appreciate it. Shout out suggests our favorite DJ of all time. We definitely love having you on. Yeah. Man. We we never brought it in. A hail. Yeah. Like one of those buttons hell yeah. Bro. But yeah man, we just wanna thank ya. It's been it's been dope. You know what I'm saying? I don't know where the next oh you're going to be at. But you know two three week hiatus and then we should be back, but doesn't case we don't you know what I'm saying? This is the season finale episode. You know what I'm saying? So anyway. Oh, shoot. Well, I guess we're good. Never mind clip that part out. All right. Yeah. I guess, I guess we still good in their mind. So I guess say finale. Hey, hey, hey, so on that note? Oh, new developed on the Rosberg to go. Oh, click side. No. Apparently, dark Phoenix's ass we saw. That's random we. We kinda saw that coming. Well, I look in there. They spent about two hundred million why Dane they may. They made thirteen million Pam y'all kind of fucking super debt. You know what I should ain't Disney? That's one. Honestly, though, the same they keep redoing, the same movie over and over again. Like dark Phoenix did last, and we've seen we've seen her go crazy. Not a ball heard last. It was about them fighting, Dr Phoenix, turning it was ever. Not man. Like we've seen this ship, multiple times the last movie and then she came back to evil. Yeah. As I mean, she does in the comics was still like we've seen it before over and over again. It's like we'll be our third times in this shit. It's like come on, man. Give us some Spiderman than that bit yourself, man. Like man. They like five spider-man's doesn't there. Those tumors technically three as far as because you've got Columbia's, which was Toby McGuire. With who enters Garfield? Mcguire thing as far as. Oh, shall we introduce ourselves goddamn, man? All right. So this is not the fucking season finale, scratched a microphone, number six. He sodas worthless to do what it is shit over here having life crisis every day and shit. I'll get into that after the introduction. I got a quick question to ask you. On my left. We got this whole sitting Nick to that, this. What's up? Unacceptable. Remember you ever see the low thirty shea, he's I shy. Other acceptable to walk out or walk making it right? Yeah. She hails issue. Oh man. What's your name? Don't worry about Nick. Yeah. When I was wrong. Yeah. Fuck your wife. Rome home microphone number eight. So something. Over there in the Kyrie Irving shirt, we got my man is Chris, what's the deal, the man kinda hurt that my guy wasn't in the finals? But I mean he going to New York he didn't even make you playoff. So imagine how I feel now will burn on this trade. Trae any worse drone the hope. See a man just a cooling on that good stuff. It's summertime. So, you know, it's time to be out here, you know, doing, we'll be do, but. Would you say melting around? I didn't say I just said doing what we do. I feel it was hoping Pottery Barn, ambiguous. I just thought of that, too. Name the fodder e barn. Harry potter? Pennies job with the. We gotta make that a YouTube series with iphones. We got bro. More money, more money key, bro, twenty. Anyway. Just came up with this dog Harry Potter. I do this. Brought to us by Harry Potter. Kinjo. No hoodie this house. Nice. Yeah. I'm Tom, I'll say, maybe hoodie Kinjo because those two how about now I was still that he can be burning up this invisible nickname. What the hell visible hood, he three AUSSIE Harry Potter? We got whole mining you know. Oh my name. Whole miami. Don. That's why aren't they Harry thoughts all? Yeah. Yeah. I'm fucking with this man. You gotta go cast Trump for that. Dr Lori Harvey could be fuck it. What's that one Bishop that Harry was fucking in the fourth movie sister? Now, his sitting on the other. Other teams the goblet of fire the Asian chic. Could be learning. Oh shit, man. We got good cast for this. This. Yeah. Silly man, y'all don't own one day. Damn. Anyway. So I mentioned I'm having like, you know, everyday crises and share, right? So I went through this weird shit couple of days ago. So I'm driving right? Montreal. Businesses. Nice day out and shit. Right. So I come up off the freeway come up to a light, right? A c a homeless man in a wheelchair right? He don't handle legs. So he just at the at the ethical light. Don't laugh. Laugh. Like he lost. You ain't got. No, Liz, I'm sorry. The handicapped fellow at the light when I came up to surface drive, he was, you know, sitting there looking all sad and shit. Right. So there was this black lady, she was standing next to him. And she was like talking to him like, you know, like talking to him you know what I'm saying? So I'll pull up. Have a few extra granola bars in my car, right? Because I'd be like Nola bars his breakfast in the morning. So I had anymore. Right. And so then he looked at it. He looked back at me, right? And now we make whole I contact a good four seconds. And I'm like. You're going to take this fucking granola Barbro. And so then the lady standing next to him, she snatches it in. She don't snatch grab it. Right. And then she go, oh, here this is good for you. Eat this. And so then he go he looked at it. He looked down at it, and then he looked back at me, and I'm like you, welcome, bro. And so he's doing don't say share, right? He goes back to talking to the lady lay he was having a whole last conversation with her, so he not like Helen Keller like mutant shit. Right. He was talking to her, like I heard his voice, he's not using his like no legs like communicate. And she I don't know what the fuck you. That's fucked up fishing. My question to you guys. Receiving. Cowley. Yeah. He was looking at the. Oh, by God, bro, slow maybe I'm not going to be alone in hell. Maybe a me. I want us to take the granola bar back, like you ungrateful piece of shit. Bro. You crack rock a fucking locker. Hard earned money on this granola I like granola. I bought this shit. You know. Fuck you going look at me crazy. So, so my question the is what I have been wrong. If I would've taken back. No, no, no. Look on it. And you won't you ain't got no way. I will took this shit. And it's back over sue. Felt like I really felt some type of way like I'm like your hunger. You know what I would've said, I would've said about my, I would've let them keep it though, like motherfucker you better. Eat their Nola burn enjoy. I want to say you, welcome. You know what I'm saying? Like hopefully that would influence him to say some ship back. No. I wouldn't. I wouldn't until you back is in. No, he wasn't gonna either not anyway. He's probably go right? He goes. Alien. Yeah. Bro. You probably never seen your Nola before if you trading granola, bars or crack rocks, you've got to get your life you go. Nature. Valley is some shit my nigga. Frame, peacock businessman. He knows how to make this you work. Browse mad because like you know leagues was probably. Could get these jokes. Right. Like the thing I was going through, you know, like when you pull up you make eye contact. And then you have that internal struggle life. Joe should I give or should I not give I'm have we don't have that personal. I used to then fucked all, I remember your situation here. So you don't give hope when that was your own fault. Yeah. Yeah. I told you fuck that do. But yeah. Anyway, anyway, my grandmother told me that I was wrong because she said, don't touch the hand so you can give them anything there's some test in hand. So. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So she was like the money, but just kind of, like, you know, snatched away from it. Don't want Adam. Yeah. You ain't going right? When he grab your whole land. Wrong. Heck, how did yellow I lady reaching in my purse one day I was like, oh, I'm not even shitting you my babies car with me is back Nells like eighteen and we're really I lived at eight and Shane her at the time with my ex husband and we like, get to the gas station, the slaves, like, do you have money and I was like he I'll give you some money as I go to give her money. And she's like, I'm like that's all I got, you know because that's all I could give. And she was like, no, you have more. She grabbed my purse. Out my. Innocence. By. Yes, you definitely want to punch. Now, don't believe women now I will punch her back. I was nicer. Ruin meal back, then I would have poster shooting dog as headlock Dolly the fuck you. I'll see I'm a female so, I can go ahead and thump another. Let the dog. You are you going to touch my woman's purse. Well, that's like bro. That's like you go in your wallet. And you go to give her a dollar. Right. And then she go in you'll while and take the rest of yo cash. I am smacking the dust off her dusty as bro, like, oh, my bro-. That's disrespect, you know, about to do that, to me, bro. Hell no. I wouldn't do that. Brad disrespect. She can get a fucking suplex slamming. He says he was hurting kidney failure there's only too much you can do you know? Oh. Break glands vote he funny. What? It's all about, like a situation like that women. I know he's probably getting off the Subject Situation like that women. No, like instead of, like slapping, the main thing, I'm trying to do is embarrass her. This is. Embarrassing hers worse than slapping, girls. Don't want to be in bed. That's that's true. Yes. True. Rather be physically hurt him. Very yeah. So I will embarrassed before, like actually like bitch with the fuck is wrong with you. So you like you know, like, straight up boy suplex. No, not, not like that. But like she would've I would've liked he would see plex her personality. Self-esteem. Wow. I've never seen anyone like suplex in real life. And I really want to see it YouTube videos of it happened to know. Yeah right in front of my face. Yes. If you if you able to let somebody get go lay is completely off the ground in light. That's a lot to have. Yeah. Just like waiting in line at like subways and some Nick just pixie work. Take it takes so much physically put somebody in the position to sue place. You gotta put Arbor all jurors. Pick them up like as a good day. Let's. Issue. You said in a hotel rather to go. Drunk person then your reaction time slowed, you know. You know I got a lot. Holy hair. No looking fighting drunks reinsert just suplex nicotine Germans hype that, that low key sunken, tonight and Dalvand. All right. Can you give them a hundred bucks? I'm no doubt. He's a Hobo fights back on YouTube. Do you remember that? I don't know if he's in jail. But he doesn't some trouble for that. I was like wholesale channel or whatever he was the he never wavers or something. That'd be. He didn't get the right paperwork nut, not that it's a fucked up thing to make for money. Right. Paper, waivers, you can get away with a lot of shit long as the government, get they cut man. That's fucked up. But anyway, so kid man hoodie. You gotta tell us about this Brokaw violation. Oh man. All right. So man, listen man, just you gotta listen because we need your opinion on this a couple of weeks ago, man. Well, I I was kicking it with this girl like not heavy. No use like door knock thing. So it wasn't a big deal to me like he. He literally. Okay, let me get the story out, so kicking it would this girl and shit. And she's like, oh. To protect the innocent. I'll just say he works at a place and she went to that place. And some other people work there. Right. The ano- so she was I year, one of your boys is not really. Oh boy. And I'm like, whatever only afoot, because at the time she was like pissed off at me about some other just woman shit. Right. So she was like, yeah. One of your boys ain't show boys and this data third. So she started sending me like I guess they he found her own Facebook. So he like Hopfner dims and share with it is what it is. And he was like she was like, yeah, you know. I talked to one zero boy. So, you know, he tried to get on. So she was like year. I talked to one Neo boys and I do that shit like that. And she was like, oh, which one she say my name. He was like, you know. I mean we boys but we really boy dead, you know, saying now. Any any other person you know, out of like. Shit. You might be right. Right. Might not be boys like that. Would there when she showed me who it was, and I'm like, damn there? Like I was on a better on a higher level than this supposed to be my homie laying real home. She so. I asked him about the shit 'cause I know I want to be. Fake. She just if you win cool like that, just say, like they're not move courtly. I wanna fight, you know, share I right? And he was like no magic said that talking to just try to fuck with her shit like I mean by that shit, you know what I'm saying? I was just trying to knock you. I was just trying to get on. I'm like, bro. He like. Even if I seen a girl two Jews talking to first of all outta just came. Like all like that, whatever. Right. Outta just in my situation, outta just told him not like if you wanna get on if you get on go ahead. She don't do that shit. She's going to do it, right. I would have never like went behind, like like if you were talking to a girl, would you, I really fucking hypothetically, you early Fugger where like that outta came and asked you like Barral? You're talking to her or whatever or you know y'all series like. And if you'd be like, nah, then I'm gonna go head. But I'll never be like yo Kelly while boy like that. Right. I'm saying we Kuwaiti my man like that. And that was. No, what I'm saying just to try to get on that even give you an advantage. Right. Right. There's no fucking reason to say something like that. Yeah, I felt as she know y'all our homeys. She oh visiting a line about this. We've probably all lie about everything you don't while you're not your main homeboy, but you're going to lie on, if I'm if I'm talking to a girl that, that I'm acquainted with the guy, I'm not bringing up the guy. No compare right? Right, bro. As I look at it to like, if you talked to a girl, like no man, just. Yeah. You should be able to be confident as self to not have to bring you anybody else into that regard, you wouldn't have to throw in you. And boy that thing. Ma'am, just. He was trying to one of the bus to try and bang your girlfriend trying to take her from you. Or what drew we just kinda kinda kick? Talk to you now. But cool if he would've just been like yo that's you right there. No. Get on out of bro Neo thing, because I've got a hit on you just to try in. I guess hit it with her a freeway eighty percent of like squads of dudes have at least one girl that multiple people have hit, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like he should've just asked you, you I would've I would've been way more. Yeah. Right. It was just what the been issue at all. Like, yeah. Go ahead, bro. It's tons of beautiful women. I hear why is he like? My friends, who we don't ran through these bitches. Not answered on it is at maybe Nali probably fucking. This is what days when even so just like oh, you fuck with such such now be like, all right. Cool. And then just. That now. So what's up with that? Yes. It's just as simple as that. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I say, man, five Rome, nor girls, not go and talk to girl role. No, I'm not going to bring a Rome. Yeah. I'm just not going to bring them up. I wouldn't talk to the girl in off. Let's see if I know best like y'all like yo target has been acquired, you know what I'm saying? Am I know what you going after? I'm not about to. Yeah. Like intercept that let's see. I our relationship me and a girl relationship is cool. Like we, we call and she is nothing series. Doc can't be like, yo. I can't be like yo, don't talk to her role. Some sort of respect there. If you're friends with somebody in your trying to get a note, a girl and gets it like popping off with her. Somebody else that your friends was shouldn't step in try to fuck that up just so they can hit the pussy that you're trying to hit. I don't think I saw folk hero because. Because. When I was I was reading the screen shots. He never liked said nothing bad about me. He just said, we wasn't boys like that. Right. So in his opinion he didn't oh you any respective on any kind which he clearly wasn't given. I mean, that's, that's what that means. I mean I, I mean that's true. But I, he, he never when I'm my point is he just never say, like Joe you bitch or something like that. How did you? Hey, if you know, especially if we hang out, often, we do things as boys and then for you to say something like that, just because you're just trying to fuck the shit. That's not cool man. Like your friendship should be more priceless than that. Then girl is so many other girls out here like you really end. Just for her. You know what I'm saying? Like diamond dozen acquaintanceship for that matter matters more than some pussy. I'm I'm you'll boy. When it comes to dick to you, by the way, you know. You know. Pretty girl coat when I'm pretty I'm pretty much. I thought it was supposed to be awesome girls. Down here. I'm one of my old friends over that. I was dating a guy like you just had gone on. I've been through this situation before that pitch is dead meat by the way, I don't know. I'm a big person, I respect I give respect people if you're not gonna give it back to me, like you don't belong on my fucking life. Scouts access city when you just talking about that with where to show fifty fucking with that. So whenever we were cool. I'm hanging out the steel Morgan fuck it, and I don't care for me and wral hanging out nother. They're like we served her up some dick, 'cause she's the ho- and she likes sick. But I still love her because she's my old friend. But whatever we'd go out and Johnny, the dude that I was hooking up with goes to walk out to is like truck to go. Grab cigarettes Morgan's like I gotta pee runs upstairs tries to. Yeah. He shut that shutdown real quick was back, like five seconds, later in the second. Morgan went upstairs. He's like, Jessica, your friends just tried to jump up on my dick. No. All right. Morgan, your dad to me, but he wasn't my boyfriend. But there's a simple rule of respect. The don't overstepped bounds of your Kwaidan says or friends with people, you don't try to fuck the people, they're fucking is how I see it to me. That's respect because I wouldn't do that someone. I know. And I'm cool, you know, because I'm not I'm not going to get I'm not going to like get into my boy or girl like those if he had pulled it off when hit without saying, like what I was saying that shit about me, not being. We're not cool like that. Right. And they would have just been what it was. You know what I'm saying? I think. At all. Would've smash smash I you wouldn't have been like a little like damn. No, no. Just be a story to like, drink. Oh, he smasher to. Is some girls you really fill in this chick, though. So, like no. About like she's cold and shit. But it's just like we was hang we hanging out at all care. So it's not like it was not. Okay. It's not. That's arthritis is player that's partially. Why may because it was like is not even a girl like that. I just jumped by. Any Sola as Hemley, even if you'd be a fucker he should have been. He should have came to you, lay not just wanna let nano, you a her might have been talking to wherever, but we had a moment to ourselves. Now, if he would've came to you respect for, like that, then that's up to you feel however you feel, but at least he told you as a man to say, hey, we did buy do some, but I respect you enough to at least let you know, if you were to talk to her, and like, go further Havard you go do I gotta let you know, like the girl she's cool. Hail. Tonight. I will consider friends, you know what I'm saying? But like it like as far as relationship immed- like, like it's not like that. Yeah. Well, funny financial fuck my friends. Oh. More than. We started it started out more. Initi- started doing a bunch of sheets. And I just did. She meals, some nut shit, her gut deal. So. To the rest of the squad. Yeah, it is go be like that. So we was cool when shit. So I'm just like I whatever was she told me one. One of my friends was trying to talk to her. I was like, all right. And you'll you say that she was on. I gotta give her that. Oh. Back on this whole honest about being a whole, but you can't be mad at. I'm about to go probably put fuck your friend. All right. To like that. Like she'd been like now Charles SA. Charles SA at you it was like she trying to push for relationship, and I haven't married about a car. I'll she plays twenty miles. We not on how to either in the media. You got to put the LEGO Hermesh this shut down shut this. Hulkamania legs. Mean jewelry. History. Trying to cut me off, like yeah. And what are your friends, tried to talk to me, and I didn't even talk to him. And I was like, I don't care record scratch, right. See wanted people that try to get a reaction out of you like that, right there. I I don't like this. I don't like man. We. Pushing for that I just be like, what by type guy trying to piss me off. So she was like, yeah, one of your boys, tried to talk to me and shit like that. I might try to make them. Make me his woman Creswell shit like that. I'm like, I know what I would do. I was, you know, we'll go try to find her sexiest friend and be like, hey, so I've been trying to talk to Joe Franco by your frame crazy. Can you give me a little advice? Well, I'll show you call to. And then. No, no, no. No, no that that's bible. No. You got. Yeah. Man. Her finest friend. Baddest find his or her best friend. A girl that she is about that's fuck her. You gotta do it. The rest of the board of savages won't be disappointed in you. If you don't bro. It's just what it is. We're fine. We'll follow up with this year. She goes through a girlfriend's house. Hey, I'm trying to put a battery my back, man. It might have to be like, you know how they ask our got the pissed off that for can we got a super way. Good. I go feed him a couple of south. Us you'll challenge Obama white that bro, not to Monday hail. Indy five hundred to that books. And I'm just sitting over there, like, okay, right. If you're wondering, and you don't think that there's anything wrong with her behavior. That's why people just fuck you and they don't date you. That's very valid. That's like. I'm glad they came out of a woman's. Thanks. Like attracts like if you want to act like a fucking hope people are intrigued like ho and they're not gonna wanna be with you. They're not gonna treat like clean their intrigue, way yet, like fucking ho I will say that hurt the woman. Learn tree. I don't think she a ho up these things she petty is fuck. Okay. I have not good. Oh. You don't. To say, but I didn't say that go fuck them although she probably did sort of entertain the idea while they notion. Yeah. You know, she did man. That is hashtag, ho behavior open. Is same energy twenty nineteen to the cast, and you wanna do that some hosted to say it is. If that's what it went down like that out of Baluchi like. Cool with you lost. What if you guys want to continued onto at about one buck load of a headache? So. Actually the day. This is like a couple of weeks ago. She that's why she may because I see it coming. I'm straight on this sheet, and she don't. Yeah. Straightforward, like I'll be telling people how it be women. Don't like that. Like I'll tell them how they are. They don't like us. Yeah. Listen. I feel like if you told me how I am I wanna be a good person? You know what I'm saying? If you come if you'd be like damn kale. You acting like an asshole today. I don't want to be known as an asshole, so the world. So I'm going to try to rectify. Care. Astles don't care. I think people do is defensive though, like I'm an asshole what the fuck did. I do. But me I'm like, well, why do you think of an asshole? Maybe I have a reason for to be an asshole, depend on. I get a funded sometimes I'll take the criticism. But at first, I make it offend up then I'll sit. And listen to it for ten minutes. I'll be like you're weird. I'm doing so matter. Shit. So it's like when I hear things my motions, don't get hit. It's like I have to process it before I feel it. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when I hear some this like, oh, you said that what does that mean? And then it's like ten minutes later, I'm like, oh, I should probably feel some type of way about this. You know what I'm saying then it's like my emotions kicking. No. Because it is saying is probably some that I did not realize. My emotions don't kick in until like way afterwards. It's like it's fucked up because I, I know like y'all see now put this on Facebook, right? My dad and my girl, they basically called me emotionless, unless I'm like drunk or cow. Okay. You know what I'm saying, and I'm like fuck y'all got emotions. But when I sat back and thought about it, it's like, do you. I have to think about what emotion is expected or like what emotion I should give before I give logical than you are emotional. That's a good thing. I act an emotion. Matters. We're supposed to be logical who ends up in jail, people that usually react really emotionally. You're the opposite. Oh, while. No who destroys the world. Logical people is. I mean panels obstacle where he was like y'all got to go. Hey man bought it. That my things y'all because outta here them hail. I people need to die sober. Right. But it was like, like. In order for us to live somebody's got to go and ain't going be angle, beat me shit. I'm going about my way to make sure. Gong. Dylan as he was though he was the most logical thing. Yeah. Kill monger, had a good point. He just didn't. He didn't have a good way of going about. He was too, radical live parents, or has so many messages like shown to radical like that beyond downfall. But you use the product of his environment. He was just full of anger. It will so much. Right. Fucking raving genius. Ryan. Kugler is definitely a God level. Yeah. Director flashing people like probably did people know you gotta realize he's really saying you a product of your environment, and you see some function happiness sensor anger. Yeah. Comes into that. So you act accordingly upon that anger. And you can go about his soul much that has literally, your existence Eliah now a bring that will bring downfall like people did not Pete. They've oh he's super walking out there. I'm like, yeah. He won't. But, like, look, I ain't literally, he lived his entire life through angry sauce, fucking, bad diet, frontal, man. Sad. Yeah. Honestly, maybe crowd because he was holding his dad in his arms and he was like legitimately like hurt. Oh man. Yeah. But one that his brother, who killed this once again. Yeah. Yeah. Goal going so much. We kill our own. You know it was. You know, it was completely abandoned. You just look up. Fine away you up. I should be on that spacious now. So it was a lot man. Sean hill. Definite shots to kill monger. I'm I feel like I'm gonna get that, that, like you know what I head dress or whatever he wore get that tattooed on me, one day because I just definitely nice shot Alto girl in my not so homeboy too. Fucked the fourth. Fuck boy in for girls found the fact that hook you guys. But I don't. Don't be DeMarco bang, bang. Here we go. Manso something mess. I wanted to talk about. So I'll listen to the radio couple of days ago, and they still make radio. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm a I'm a meter reader. So I you know, I'm on the road at, like eight o'clock in the morning. And in order to save my phone badger. Yeah, ain't using that auks. You know what I'm saying? I gotta use the bluetooth, so breakfast club or ST. You a portable charger. Yeah. Yeah. That's twenty first century one of the best things that have happened, bro as actually a great idea. But I was listening to the morning, he shoutout to one zero seven five in Detroit. Big rig and Africa. Now they were at a caller who had a situation. Right, doer said his girl for his whatever significant other of four years they've been living together came into Krio. Okay on a with like bruises and shit all messed up in the face. Right. And she goes, oh, Honey, my side. Do beat me up. Fuck right. A minute, first of all, so many things like what do you do? How do you. Decide to beat you up, why the fuck you staying with us. I do when he's being. Yup. Yeah. Who's your mom, so I can sneak the fuck fucked up? You it got real. So you so you fucking around with me. Then it got really started beating no ASO. He was like fuck the shit. I'm gonna just tell my negative. She really thought he should come back. Got you. Fuck out of my house about that. All the jokes that will come after that room. He'd be sitting here, correct? Busied in do the Mayweather shoulder. All. Listen, the first time because you got two black eyes. Oh, I'm definitely going to I, I think that's out of my, my hand at that moment, obviously been fucking around with them. So that's strike one. Now he hitting you so that straight to strike three. You got it right. Why you come? You're going to hear. Yeah. I guess if they've been living together for four years she'd had to come home. Sometime. Mike sunglasses. So now she take the glasses off. She got this fat ass. That's funny. My side dooby man, huge sheet thought that is about to okay? May maybe. Contrary to popular belief women got a whole bunch of price. So she not going to be like, oh, this girl beat my is that's true because I probably would have been getting more jokes off, like you out here, losing fights. We can't work. No more. Doing. I wouldn't do that. Girl actually beat me up. Horrible girl, not go say, another girl beat him up. Sounds like she had to come clean. I mean, I would I would just do it with a whole lot of shame. What? Yeah, I've seen. I can't put it on somebody go. Well. Well, no. She walked in the door. She can walk out. She's obviously been walking out the door. Fuck kind you're fucking around on the student, you want him sick up for you and care about you now that the other do your fucking behind his back beat come on. Let's go. Bring some Jerry's. White people thrown potato salad. I'm I'm on it. I'm I wouldn't even. Yeah. I would have been making so many jokes, she would call her brothers on me. He'd be my. Oh boy. How would it be getting them jokes off? That's why what I thought about homosexuality. You can't get out, but we don't invest in you, some fucking judo classes. What is self defense classes? That'd be my pardon. Give now what happened was she was trying to move in with that. And then he's like pitcher. Go back to. The nervous hose lords fucker. Better, call your brother for Dr definitely that point, you gotta call your brother your uncle. Yeah. Like, I'm I'm out the pitcher at this point man. So if she lived with y'all which I like kick, right? The house twelve you can't come back here at all even tonight. Yeah. No, you're out especially if my name on the lease get the fuck out. Now you can stay tonight. But in the morning. No, no, you to look at you. Tonight. Smell you situation like if she got nobody in life. Streets. Yeah. No. It feels a situation where he possibly could kill her. Then I wouldn't just though, I'll probably make sure she does get some change staying with me. That's, that's it is for sure. We'll tell down is actually, you go have to go somewhere. I know that you can be safer, but you definitely not stand her mom to your mouth crypt. Man ham, mom, probably live up the street to ain't that bought a bitch us case. Thank you hope as nervous. Fucked, too. Get your jaw cross based on the radio say to ought to do that called up. It was like hell. No, I know. Women call. I like to hear the females for women was like hell. Who was like it was it was split. But you definitely had a couple of females. Call up and say you know what I'm saying? He should help. That's your girlfriend's four years yet. Yes. My name is opposed to, they probably had the ass. Because let me let let my Sybase what my ass she just right? Masking like that. Massage. It'd be my. She's like you. Fuck you bitch out there fucking right? So no, no smell. No. Love out here. No love. I hear God, damn faked those no love God, damn by sponsor barroom. That's why I'm glad we all agree on that, though. 'cause I mean I was feeling like asshole that how. How she. Suplex moment for sure. I don't know man. She gets placed enough already. Super still walks. Table deli boys three d. While ma'am hail. Say what else we got? All right. So I saw a little Duval hostess fixture on Instagram. Right. It was like, oh, you know, the takes pictures, or whatever it was like, say your girl, and her best friend going to trip to Miami right now on your girls, snap slash just a Graham story, but are her best friends snap. So or is the Graham story. They those two are on a boat with some nigga. What do you do when you just as opinion? I feel like there's about tax. So I wouldn't trust issue about that. Somebody had to have a story of somebody smashing that. Yeah. Somebody fucking. Yeah. That point. I'm like, all right. You on this boat. I am about the call up bitch at me giving me play. But I ain't give her plagues. I've been respectfully you might call her up right now. Be like you know what? You're gonna go get some drinks every go. Yeah. I'm kind of this one, a little bit more sketchy for me. It was just the Bograd. No fuck thing. Is she on a boat? Right. Is it is it like fucking French Montana, boat, or some, one of niggers? That'd be on both all the time. Tirado Miami, nigger would've. But what if it's just an every got money, which means that she fucking thing about fucking not a celebrity. He just a normal nigger would vote in Miami any unless she paid to get on that boat. She's paying some other way is -actly. That's pain. Pain, and she was her to for both of them to pay, then innate, who's, what if she came back and said, nothing happened, do you believe, Dan? Nothing. Never. That's where sketchy. Because if you don't have evidence like a screen shot or right? Video something like it's just like you just gotta common if you in that type of relationship my been doing mad bullshit before then you like I bid, that'd be issues Khodro if y'all being good. If y'all been good up to that point like all being good y'all trust each other ain't no bullshit. And you do that, then it's kinda of like I well has. Even so late y'all? Good. And then dash should happens that might be her way of breaking free 'cause, you know, women might be type away about something, but they're not gonna tell you they'll go about it and other ways. Anyone? They won't us to be honest, but they gotta be all sneaking. We gotta figure shit out. So that might be her way, if hypothetically that she trying to a hey, you know, I'm kinda tired of being with this negative. Speak hieroglyphics. Yeah. To last of my way of thinking was late. We did care. Welcome to the woman, bashes. We did. So we care bene- last year we doing care about, again this year, right? Damn robin. Never eggs me shit. She was like, how was the trip I was like she was dote Jacqueline? But if she go get on that boat and ain't no evidence enough in being done wrong. I gotta give her that same energy. As far as like fidelity infidelity like being good that whole time, like if she'd been out it. Hoche it like all the time hitting. All right. Caravan is just a big ass party. Right. But if it's just you and your girlfriend, and is dude on a big ass boat, then, like, yeah. Three in them or three. Fucking point. What I'm saying is still goes down care bene- though. But I mean can goes down, but it's a bigger where we're when I'm saying, like, actually, like, just for her home grin. That's why she got to be a story. And she and you'll girl just kinda like knob air. Enjoy most why she was getting cheeks cracked? But do you believe that, though as a man, do you go? Have y'all that good choice? You have your speculation like you go have to obviously Yuna relationship, you gotta Trustor unfortunately have was. But you gotta have that little bag thing and. Now, you what you could do is at that moment. I was just say, I'll say take for face value. But definitely watch her steps after that. Now she doing some shit, and it's kind of a client today. They're now you know, I'm like, okay, maybe two weeks. Yeah. We're going back to Miami. Yeah. No. How you say Miami's expensive? So I mean not at nickel flying you out. So stop playing food out fucking. Hey Miami Bros. You got the most annoying voice all rag, I said the same sheet. I hate her voice. I do like that song. Who, like that song voice? Give me a focal make style. Man. She. Yeah. Song, Simon says with juicy j man, she she definitely and she picked thick. Oh yeah, man. She. Right. We got distracted. Baco Baco top. I can't mash a sketch, would you dump your girl or would you keep? It's not a dump. That's just the real things. I was saying in the group Charles I, I don't think it's a dump bull fence like something happened. But somebody going break, I'm gonna be all bullshit for the next month. Coming in at four o'clock in the morning. You ain't gonna say shit til don't. Yeah. Jews on a boat by yourself with do that. Primeau moulmein. Stop playing with me. Yeah, I'm coming out of a hole in Miami. Yeah. I'm coming in drugs. Oh, yeah. And she was doing coke on the boat. Hail hill invincible and shit. Nothing. Not even the stigma. Stop. Bush it for the next five times, I go out. Man that's going to the strip club. Don't tell me shit. I don't even like strip close. I'm going to go. So would you don't? You work nights about to say this Yossi national putting other group jail, foxing. Yeah. So they got this boxing at players on the eight mile in Grasset. Every third Tuesday, they got these chicks boxing each other. I'm in. Darlie wants the bitch of all. Disposed. I've always wanted to see it's the third Tuesday of every month. So it's not this upcoming Tuesday. But the next Tuesday, so Tuesday before caravan, nah, nigga is June talking about the line, Nick. I'm going this. I'm not I'm not missing out on this shit. I'm in bitch. You can join me until I, but I'm trying to see these bitches get knocked out excited. Yeah. I have to go here. See some bitches skin that's going to be hyper K, literally, cannot wait. Yeah. That's going to be high. Yeah. Yeah. See strippers boxing. Ever came up with this idea is a fucking genius. They've been having heaven, though. Foxy, boxing, man. I'm yeah. Scene. No one of HBO specials late to the parties. I don't like going to close. Oh, you know. Oh, yeah. They have met titty, bars around here, we were talking about that already foxy box. Foxy boxing. Sort of that word. I'll throw money at some puck and a half. Naked chicks. Research. There's this club called players Detroit or eight mile and grassy. For me about this a few weeks ago. Search box sauce. They try to get there. It doesn't always work. Behind those. Real beef, right? They like fucking my Nick. I'm a Big Joe ass bitch. Week. That's how that goes. I was girl teddy bar. I worked at. Broke my flat. Strippers a lot offer. Go what I was looking at her, what even cross my mind. But I'm like, I wonder what would happen if these bitches was fine? House. Stripper because I I've always heard of it, but I never knew if it was like an actual thing you know what I'm saying then strippers boxing in Detroit. And then it was like players, Detroit foxy, boxing, Tuesday along. And I'm like, yes. Now, think about in Detroit back among my hey days way, way back when what the strip club and it was some Chickasaw, and I was like, I wanna lap dance by her spent civically from her seat. Another strip, thank can you can you get girl to come over here? She's like I see about a hourly. No, I'll fuck with strippers like that here. So I was like that should have been a rare fled Lee, if they really don't fuck with each. Because the one I was trying to have one friend there. But that's a raffle, the girl the one I was trying to get was when I was getting the money. So of course. With that base. Always stripper. And every club, every do won't is always one or two topping. I've come to know anything that tells you the politics exists everywhere. This stripper is higher than the other stripper. And that's that's kind of true. Like, you know, like they've she in doing it. No. Clubs generals politics, bro. Go. You are no, where to sit got no who beefing. Let's say the bartend then. Yeah. We don't let nobody in their have bottle service for over for you. As a shame sort of nuts. Remember in Toronto they wanna like five hundred dollars but I should. I know a couple of homeboy China Goto the care, Bannon dog, and they, they trying to get a Cabana. Grip Nana should is thousand dollars. Didn't even worth it because you remember the Cabanas was thing. You ever, we went to the Hennessy party, the, the little shits, white the little bed and whatnot yet not. I mean. Even the dope part adult. Part was like in the middle where we was all the people is dope to party on. I wouldn't have I wouldn't stay the whole time. Yeah. Actually played out after the first see how could be beneficial 'cause like is kicking kicking girl at the at the party can't take you? I mean you can bring a girl from dance floor back to yo cabasso. I'm saying, oh, yeah. Above Indiana Cincinnati. But you only have lay one party there. So like at was like off the skirts from downtown Lake Ontario somewhere further all, so it's not like you can easily get their traffic, so you're trying to fuck Caitlyn. All right. Because we gotta drive forty five minutes back to where I was saying true, she got to think, right? I don't like. Right. Right. Fucking. These jokes recording please, please. Too much time. Or, or you got so much how no fuck it up. You'll say some stupid sheets. What do you feel about Trump right here? Oh, yeah. Man. Personally, I happen to like Trump, you know. You know. Trying to get the pussy, man. You just you're done like the Hoover just gets drier somehow. Over jarver like man. Right. Back to the party. Grown give you one star. One-star no game. Funniest hail today. Today, I had role silent mode, what you do talking. Every so last now because. Today. We got to save energy for the rest of the rest of the season off for. This is the starter season two. Season. Five. From late seventy seven. Season three we're all going to be like retired and. Order quicker in the season. We got hail. Yeah I'm fucking. Season eight I'm be clocked in social security hill. Yeah. Well, we can't do are doing. Yeah. We do. See eight leg game of thrones. Yeah. We can't do it. Oh, hell no grizzly fucking shit ending. There is every day, rush. Who years, you rush things. Years, Brody did that show. Soul. That either we were supposed to get it last year. Extra year off though to get trash. Oh, that was a slap in the face. 'cause you had a loyal fan base people that don't even fuck with dragons and shit. Watch it because that's just how. End it like that way. I'll I felt disrespected. Fan. Yeah. I will say for me always to four months to catch up on it 'cause I watched a whole series. But you've got people. I was watching it from April two thousand eleven when. Yeah, it is. Face. That literally was into high school. That's so from laughing. Again. Butthurt. A big. They were saying that about those sopranos I never watched sopranos. So my slice. In general, the sopranos and it would just going straight. The black. That's what was so infamous about it now, I do all of them, though, it literally is show, Tony soprano, and then it went to black. When it first air people thought they lost their cable access how with the black just like that. And then the credits game. So everybody was like, what the? So back then, I was like, unheard of now, you look at it look back at it, and it actually would make sense as far as far as how they built that scene up and for that to have happened house. You watch they might live. It makes it made says if that season, and then listen to what people dial out. They were speaking of that moment may sense like when you look back at it. But when you just Washington, like, say from live, and then that happened like seasons is it, six say, oh, well, six six broken up into two parts. Yeah. It was just a lot of pay attention to. Yeah. Exactly dude, walk up in store and shit like this. A lot of camera angles got look look as people expression, that or the wire, both wire, wire. Wires better than sopranos, too, 'cause I try watching the wire. Is slowly around season? Two three gets good. When then you can see. Gift came from honestly, weren't we bay. That was honestly when they when they introduced Marlow when introduced Marlo Chris that's when it got, like good. Oh, Chris snoop day was like the new Marla was a new drug kingpin, and like Chris Newt with his his Lieutenant. Okay. And they was dope as fuck. They was ruthless b. Who's that girl? Like really today, but it's not exercising now. She was doping show man. She she did a good job on this show seriously. So I'll watch both of them in my opinion. There's not multitask, because my thing is I multi task when on my watching TV, I'll either be like playing a game on our phone, or like on Twitter, Facebook, or just rolling up laughing just doing some dumb other sheet, you know what I'm saying? What TV's on in the background? So it's like I got a pay attention of you just like roll on your full laugh, Neil south and shit. Jab weird. Just be in my room rolling up putting all my emotions in bloom like this. All on new key. I angle listening to music. I was laughing at NASCAR crashes earlier this week and I know has a dark, she Dr driving share. Oh. Driving in the car. Twenty three. He died. Child. Opposite daddy laugh at the deaths. But it's because know a lot of them. They crashed what perfectly fine. Yeah. Because they feel safe in the car, but it's just the way that the car the car. Laugh laugh laugh, and then they die. And you're like. Look at his arm over there. That obviously, what I love watching police chase videos for the most exciting for me to watch remember cops. Like you're straight retarded still. They still got lot still make new episodes of cops and they make a life PD. I didn't know that. I wasn't days ago, right? The dumbest, hey, in the world, bro. So it's like a watered down version of cops, but anyway, this dumb as Dubreuil. So he has some fucking heroin in his wallet. Right. So the couples over right? Yeah. So he's like, hey Joe there's heroin in your wallet dues like oh, that's not mine. This. He's like this is your name. Right. So, yeah, this your address, right? Yeah, this your wallet, and he was like, well, my, my buddy had them my wallet for a long time, and he just gave it back to me. He's like, all right. So then he's like. Yeah. And then he's like down. So Where'd you get this heroin from? He's like do use a lot. Do you say that? No, I don't I don't sell. He was like, oh, so you're heroin user. He's like a little bit. You know. He's like this bag of heroin is in your wallet. He's like. His mind he was like, okay. All right. You got anymore here went on, you know, and all that. So dumb as these like, well, I smoke a little bit. So the cop is like I want to thank you for, you know, complying, and I'm going to take you to jail for possession of heroin and dues like possession. What do you mean? What the fuck are watching, bro? This kid be fucking real right out how long? How long? I people how do you straight up at MIT heroin? I hate how laugh pedia set up though, 'cause they like got correspondent sitting at an issue. Let's go to the action right now. He's running. Boring is running. That's funny. I was just mad. I'm like, bro. How you admit to the heroin being in your wallet? And then you get mad when the cops say, all right, I'm taking you to jail for possession heroin mind. They mind. But you just. This is my wallet. Show the worst part was like that's about forty dollars worth of heroin. Tell the worth. How much is worth? That's when you just gotta go to jail just take him. Sir. Let me please never seen. I was I'm sitting there like, oh, Brawley, he, he deserves go to I'm not for anybody going to jail. But my all he deserves the attic said they leave their needles laying around and parks and stuff and. Wash. My damn needles. Tom sorry. You're gonna use second. Yeah, you probably grind. Darrow. Dan, I don't even like her back his Weeden alcohol. Okay. Yeah. I'm scared and maybe shrooms occasionally because that doesn't hurt nobody. It doesn't make any reports hard and you don't rob your mom or. Cocaine. Oh. A little bit. Okay. Fuck around and have a brain hemorrhage. Now. So that's something that could happen. Only a little bit knock the edge off. Stick to personality, probably shouldn't do anything at all. Name them anything else side of that. Leave at the fuck alone. Working out. I don't know how you could be higher. I just don't get it hockey. Alright already get too high from. We all wanna be higher. They we can be. I don't even wanna be. Not. You literally are like that anti-drug commercial is back in the day. The lake melted into the couch. I've been before. Out with friends, and I was at some kickback whatever I got high like that. I was like, oh shit. I really got to go home now. People. Everybody's looking at me all gone word walkway. About it. Why some edibles dog and I just ended up on Jesus for imports. Fernan tire day, if you only if you eat Addy more than like. Car that's wrong. I thought I over like I literally told my brother right, bro. If end up dying day, do not tell. Literally told my brother. Finished you bro. Okay. Bear product. Does my sister? No. My sister wanted her home grows, had it was like a pan, and they have brownies cookies and they had these popcorn. Pothole yet it was it was caramel. It was caramel and chocolate Popol. Geez. And it was like most of the time edibles kind of tastes. Like, not that good people that don't know how to make them basically bro, the fucking popcorn was good as hell. So I'm just eating popcorn. Like regular popcorn. Then I ate a half of the chills, I e half of the brownie, you'll be all right. So a half the brownie, and then I was eating like just brand poplar peaking. Peaking. Their own event. You know, when you hear. Thirty minutes to an hour rack one o'clock one o'clock cave. And I in the morning, my brother was like getting off of working shit, and he came in. I was like, bro. If I if I end up dying off a week, bro. Don't tell mom, don't tell nobody. I've got. The world. Can you imagine us get near from work, and then you see your brother just sitting there stuck? Do you was? Yo I didn't know what to do. Don't tell 'cause I was like man, I was standing up and I was like yo Braga sit standing up in the middle of. The middle just thinking, like I don't even know what I was standing with my hands. We'll talk my hand like this shit. So I'm like, damn broad. Gotta sit down sit down and I'd be like. No Roe you swear. Like y'all would've thought ahead too many get fucked up like that. Like you literally, you're like. I'm going to I in history of human fucking DM, Pat. Because that's what it feels like because you're just too high and you it's impossible to fucking die. Don't you know, but it just me while I mean, have you have really strong onside really strong? Sean, and it can wrecked me and Ivan smoked thirty six I've been smoking. I was twelve you know what I'm used to it, too fat or something, maybe better than maybe will tell. Yeah. That could be tolerance smoke often at all. My tolerance is still not eighty that was like my first time even consuming. We shouldn't start off. No. First time. But like that year might no it'd be like, humans through your training wheels. They were dead. People. Ford a smoke before like before. Gap in between enemies. You have a leg. You don't eat, like, you know, or an arm, you don't eat the whole fucking thing, or like a whole bag not that, that was my mistake 'cause they will have much it was telling me like road, just eat half little fucking. Us why we was watching something like some documentary, and I'm just randomly eating popcorn like regular popcorn caramel. How the fuck do you not eat it? But I knew I knew like had a mind enough to like put that stuff away. You've never smoked but you take weight, would you ever smoke or not? Because I felt like you were like anti, you're not anti, but I know I'm crazy. I mean, I know that's not gonna make them create actually, I don't know anymore. Yeah, no that's going to calm your it. Calms my crazy anyway. Fat and smoke, like I'd probably already being smarter chargers something because make you forget stuff, right? Oh, yeah. Hell is she? That's like I don't wanna forget too much, right? Forget the really important things though. You forget the like extra shit. Now that people are like, ODI remember this, and you're like, no, this shit that don't really we've told you, hey, there's a blue pen over there. You're not going to remember that shit. Right in, like ten minutes. Three told me prioritize important. And what's, not when you smoke kind of gets really? But it's not really that important in the grand scheme of shit like you still hold onto the ship. That's important. You know me as a person in a file cabinet. So you'd be forgetting all types of shit bro out about irresponsible. Some chocolate caramel popcorn. That's watery kidding me out ate, the whole bag and like I'm dead for day cares. Hale, EMC, Robin can make awesome. Edibles. Starting to just as you have one bad experience, though. You gotta I mean everything. The first time I ate at all right? Like it was it was a bad thing. I was high. Yeah. I was chilly that particular time. No. That was the worst, bro. You had too much. I knew I was getting ready to go. See what Jesus was. Bro. I'm outta here, bro. Like I was like, I was literally like accepted me diet, like while sitting there like rolling so high eating. I'm just sitting there like I'm done like this. Going out this too close. Y'all silly reality packing up kill people. But if you eat too money out of a ca- feel like you could die because the paranoia just kinda each your brain away, and you're like. Hey, one friend who got too high and he thought he was having a stroke. So like text me. We was back at I'm convulsing right now sitting her math class. Right. So just might own business shit, you know, struggling math is always, so I get a little message, and it's like my homeboy, and I'm like, what the fuck and like the message literally says yo I think I'm having a stroke, and I'm like Maguire, you types of me. What cannot? And I'm like, bro. You just high calm down. You should be good. He's like, no man, my body feels weird. Like I can't breathe having a stroke. I'm like muffled I'm in class. Do you think? Do about this. Yeah. Yeah. He would just having a panic attack because he was too high. Oh man. We that's where that sativa can fuck you up. I'm all about the Indika prefer sativa. I'm an indoor person just 'cause I naturally have anxiety so into like. Out. Random shit. I think random fucked up. She not as fucked up as Jerome, you'll be picking real fucked up. She you mean. That's you. You'd be you'd be coming out of left field with some shit sometimes but yeah, I don't really get anxiety. I just be chilling. I think the we puts me in a state of extra chill that don't need to be 'Sometimes. I kinda like you know, the crazy shit. I like looking at, like, so the we put you in a deeper. Home. Get you some YouTube or ready. We, we couldn't do that. I, I have executives. So usually like when I do get to high our like I'm into like surrealism. So I'll start looking at it from ship. Salvador Dali around autumn type of art word clocks, and she I watched that perfect didn't sit in here, right? Love it to death man. Dali's really good for that. There's always hidden shit that like you kinda gotta you have to actually start it to find it because it's art within Artan. He's fan. He was fantastic. Oh, man shit is one fifty three we to wrap up, then we got out of all actually foot. Foot foot boys boys girls girls. The lady from the when they see us documentary. Our? Fuck fuck hell, you call him and visits. Fuck heavy slow key my phone. The go-to mongo to be honoring, Dan. Hi. No beyond say and behalf because they showed that picture when she was talking to a nigga and Jay z was right there. He is perfectly cool. He's Kohei say. Ball, sailor. He was talking for a split second. She said they said she was looking at her, and she gave her elbows bitch calmed down. Did you hear what the lady was doing? She was taking drink order fucked up, like come on. How you say she might have say some flirty sheet till them. No. Across his wife, right? The ball hit on some aid. That's too much. Asked mate hose. 'cause I curry Saito bitch jumping car. But right. That's I. Real hoes like reach over. Jamie. Fuck a billionaire, but, you know, you made to the one of the most famous women a world, bro, man. Fuck news for foles from Wendy's you a visual and fuck Jay z here, billionaire bro, and they don't care if he fifty or how many young getting sponsored by these old do who make like eighty K a year. He's making a billion dollars bro. You give a young wholesome shoes. She in love with you, bro. How are you smarter? And Sheikha eighty k. Possible as decent but fun to her whole lifestyle. He's gotta be living. I'm like a eight hundred dollars a month apartment. No EKO Ford person where eight-game man. That's nuts. That's nuts. And he nervous these people. I'm just saying bro. It ain't it ain't hard to make you look like you got more than what you got any hard to at all. All I know is you need the conflict now first of all, he angled leave. Because, you know, down will you go have to he'll have to pay like, what not hundred million dollars in the settlement leave your ass. No, y'all go. Be happy. Together Iago have your infidelities whatever just deal with it. Shut the fuck up make good music, like Jay z divorce her. She will take his kids away, come on now. Now, little blue Ivy here. Wait, that's, that's. Yeah. Offer. A billion dollars. She could take three or four as shit. We have a bullied fucked up thing that I've noticed when people stay together, and they one boy, one girl. Oh, nice. Nice. Join third rooming out kind of names Carter threatening. Right. When you research does gas kinda so Yang. Passage. You have to have really shitty names for seven. Yeah. Andre three thousand air about do Nick his sevens. Well, she explained in name, it was not Mason's name. Name just seven like, yeah, what's your name seven? That's kinda creepy, bro. Yeah. The movie I mean. But you're facin. Come aboard. Seven is a lucky number is undivided of but at the same rate, my outta boy is Jay z for being the first black billionaire pup. So. Feet right there. I'll probably go Serena. Yeah. Richest woman fame, it right now, people to see paying off some of her fans like student dot and softer. She. That she just wanted verification of whatever and then she beat some odd. She's good per site. She lounge here's all the time. She helps people build homes and stuff and other countries rattles, like she's a good. We'll see me. Yes. A small the fucker. And how are you? Art and looks and talent smarts, and she's got it all. That's the way beat her. There is no beating her. She. All right. Fucked basil's. What happened I say, some money ran up in whatever they have money ran up in their assigned to some on and what they'll something protester some at some Amazon had. I read the whole art all knows that MacKenzie. Even herself said that, like you make too much money gives them to people now. Half of that. You are two hundred billion dollars. You can easily pay some scholarship scholarship or some dense off fuck scholarships. Give help the world hunger or people. Can literally medical actually do reparations and still have a lot of money. But I've seen him but I've seen pictures of him like when he was trying to get Amazon runoff. He would steam he was really going through the month. So I guess, now he got money he's like, man. I didn't too much. All right up. She. Damn came from. Yeah, I'm making all this money. I think the only thing I can do Sparta rocket ship company. I'm like the fuck. Nah, he do guerrilla tech. This bro shit ain't cool. I mean, he got one of the most profitable companies probably on the face any still has people dying in factories like what kind of. I would never work at Amazon factor. Nobody on s just awful, literally put KMart Sears. Toy. Yeah. Yeah. Is literally Amazon and apple and Google. They run the world about to start offering same day shipping on the same day and Sunday shipping. Amazon dot to start off for national. You can see college kids running up to your door here he goes. Shingle come over the speaker, that was too slow. One-star. You don't get paid. That's crazy. Yeah, we're all fucked up basil. Yeah. Blink. No more. He's too rich. My boys DJ callous. That's right. Trash. Him tantrum for television creator have a number one album. No some hosts. Yeah, better. But his that, that's that part was Bush. But the album as half out. I like I like is that meat mills on him up whether the storm. Yup. Radio person cardio too. Wish which was cool. The saunas on radio right now. Eight. I hate that whole message in rap now being loyal about. She supposed to be loyal. When I learned that he only really produce only like two percent of all his music. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't good y'all don't like higher. I like most. I honestly I didn't like that. No ills. I don't like how he did that though. You go roll out upon his death late. Song and video before he died. I would have released that a little bit further down the line, but it's still catching up in the hype of all the money that he making off the song goes to the state. I get that. But I still feel like he's still like kinda like in hyping it, and people are saying about nips. He's definitely, there's a lot of fake low like people thinking, oh, well, loved them so much like you ain't even talk to ten years, or you never knew them back, DJ, Kelly produce, a lot of songs, with with nipsy Ross on their like way before any man. I just think it was somehow shift for him to throw a tantrum and start yelling at all his label exists for his album, not being number one. It's like you can't well, that's that's because it's like I don't even know why why he would do that. 'cause his phones already out of here. I think I like the number two, which is. You lost to like a good album was a great time to creator. I'll listen to that element. It was I liked it. Wasn't. It didn't listen. I it's not better than flower boys flower. I think is like that something else that like ego words like the first new billing. All right. This is weird the new way. All right into it. Now there's a lot of singing on that shaped here. Yeah. But his thinking softer flower. Boy, it's break-up. Yeah, it's a break-up Elton. See I'm as wolf Haley Tyler miss way never gonna get that back. Now he getting older. Now they got a eighteen thousand nine hundred he's not trying to fuck up his voice like ring. Yeah. True. Focal dildo, sticks. He says some nuts ship before, man. The music great my Pete, but should I don't know, fuck boys or no more boys, or Atta boys? Basil's on with that. I'm trying to think I can't really think annouce all my out of oil squad women right now. Steph curry wrap my boy. Steph curry Steph because how us bro. Hi, are you going to say you need more help when you got three all-stars Anna finals MVP how you say how you say not playing got a are clay and dream on. And it would Allah, and Shaun Livingston. First of all, we had the team you. Dollars overrated. But dollars not finals. Haiti is the difference may have the same thing you want a championship before, say team. Plus, DeMarcus cousins still more health. That makes was out there playing with no foot game and six. Game. Boy. Know what I wanted to be six. It was him. No. Toronto in the six, you know, because, you know, I want them to win Toronto sort of crowd. Can go nuts if I'm taking what Tuesday or Wednesday off at work? For that parade. She was going to be nuts, bro. He's definitely going to that parade if they win, it's only four hours away. Fuck them. So only four hours away. That's like Chicago. Serious. Yeah. Toronto's only hours away, bro. You took the train. Family saying this move like trying to say. You're going aby. Yeah. Like did ass be with the timber off. Oh shit. He didn't might convince bro. We, we are now. We in their if Katie was playing shit will be three one other way. But he's not. He's not an Steph curry is losing that argument being the greatest player up. He never was it was between LeBron Kevin. No, it was in there. It wasn't Iraq. Yeah. I think we gotta rap. Yeah. But I guess we all season finale. Yeah, we'll be. Yeah, we'll be. Postpone fuck Steph curry before peace out. Can I give a shout out to our Atta, boy, Jason Smith because he set up another watts water station over implant? Gillian. With the work. All right. I guess we all. Curry. No.

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Freshman in Comedy with Ev Johnson  EP78

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Freshman in Comedy with Ev Johnson EP78

"Welcome back to not leave the johnson ready for a fresh new episode. Hot out the evan. This week i got everton johnson. One of my buddies. That i met during stand up actually which is also the reason that i haven't been posting his frequently. Get the stand up and then you got the work life and then you got the groceries and social life and then they're a podcast on top of the whole thing stinks. Just gonna take some time. I'm also still trying to meet a lot of people but But yeah at everton. When i met him out doing a to street like we talk about he just has so much energy. And i mean think of all those things all the lives you got to live to do all these things and field productive and then you know i it just takes so much energy which is why i really enjoy being around. Because he's got that you know. He's very charismatic. And he's got that energy which is kind transferable through personalities a little bit and I mean he also is a very indepth thinker about about his progression in life and kind of moving forward so i was really fortunate to have them Except to beyond. And it's come talk about you know being freshmen in. Stand up comedy We have a really great conversation. I'm for comedians. who are starting out and i think it's beneficial for other comedians. Who want to see what starting out is like as well. But also i think people it's interesting to see stand up as actual industries itself as opposed to like anytime i tell somebody to do. Stand up like oh so you're gonna be famous one day right. I mean it's just like any other industry. I mean it really just depends on how much time and energy you put into it so i i think this conversation kind of helps it make. It seem more real worldly and hopefully help people relate to it a little bit so yeah without further ado gentleman every two johnson. How you doing desert really really really well man drop it in. How's it going for you. I'm doing well. Doing well. Had a wonderful july fourth weekend and i am ready to get back into it to be honest. Ready to get back into that routine doing to stand up again. Would you get into this weekend fireworks. Lots of drugs. Lots of alcohol alcohol. Right to on america's day he's supposed to celebrate now. I don't know about that shit. I'm not like you people though. I actually had my anniversary weekend. Oh yeah we're soothe his with. Who with the lord minister for three years. Is that sure. Yeah happy anniversary. Thank you respect. Absolutely yeah so here today to talk about some standup. That's how we met. We met at two street to street. Second read a beautiful dive bar that lets us do our thing up there. Every tuesday night. I love that place. Man grey spot and a have. Just kind of like got into started talking. He's got so much energy. I love it. He works with me on Some jokes and had to get him on had to get him on to talk about it because in comedy. Yeah freshman comedy exactly. So that's kind of what i wanted to talk about because getting into it like i have not seen i mean you were telling me about kevin hart spike cast a little bit with Where they talk about comedy. But i haven't seen many or at least been recommended any four starting comedians. To listen to for advice or kind of see how. The journey goes for a lot of people. You know what i mean. I mean like. I get that you've got to look for him but all right. Exact also comedies like comedies about the streets route. I've never been that book version of names that knowing this hour goes like that school like school. You you get lessons that you study now. You take a test street to take a test and he was supposed to take lessons study from those things. I appreciate this art form from other art forms. I got involved with because this one is really about the soul and really saying like how can you roll with the punches. And i think like the current system that we the weaker people you know. Yeah yeah definitely and see. That's a game. Like i'm still. I just got out of school so i'm still like in that mindset where i'm trying to like do do everything by the book and try to like kinda build from lesson lucky structure lucky enough. I've always been both you know looking up. I grew up in camden. That connects right across from ben. Franklin and both of my parents they went to school and so we always used to do a bunch of street stuff and you have to do a bunch of street stuff while you out there but also went along schools. I went to private school. High school went to a catholic school. That i went to small liberal arts school to do my degrees in jersey. Okay so is that where you kinda started your interest in standup specifically or i'd always been interested in stand up. Not lap always watched state of stuff. I remember when. I was young. Because i have friends who are older than me and so i remember being like in my tends my boys had like dave chapelle. Shit scud show on. Dvd box and so watch those crack the fuck up and like i had been wanting and had been always watching it all throughout college. I'd watch tons of different ups. You know i was watching mitch. Hedberg always watched like hat williams. I always watch earthquake. I always watch patrice o'neal stuff and like it was too late this year when i was going through the pandemic it just kept coming up and we just kept coming up and then i go on the phone with my boy christian and i was like oh but like i'm nervous about it. He was like. I don't know why you all people shouldn't be nervous. It almost seems like you're born into it and i was like are going. Get into shot. Let me see how it is and so it was really like seeing a recent stand show in two bits of advice really. Hit me where i was like. Oh i took a girl at a date to. It took her out to. Yeah the punchline to see some amateur shit on tuesday and it's the same shit. I saw the way girl was like kyla impress al was and i was like. Oh no bitches like this now. That's great man when somebody tells you born to do something man like all right. Well at least. I'm gonna try out. Especially if like he knows y'all know who it was. But that's that's when somebody tells you got do that and that's kind of the reason i got into it too like growing up i was class clown of my class or whatever senior year and like what people say like my Review a lot of times pretty funny but also slightly short. I think that's a good line to cross. I got a lot and like i went to like a small liberal school major there and so these people are actually very conservative minded people in a sense and they didn't really like other kind of ideologies. You know i often is being like to flagrant dirty route to going to offensive. Want to what you had to say that like that. I mean yeah comedy. I think i think a lot of the point in comedy so for me like starting out like yeah you helps when people telling you like you're pretty funny and you got that thing but like going back to it like even further like my dad was always that dad at the dinner table just talent like stupid ass like maung jokes that take like an hour to town. It's just like a fart. Joke at the anderson like that and that was always something that was very like at the end of the day. Something that really stuck out to me was him. Always like you know he'd be put me to bed and be like all right you got you gotta tell me one thing. That was funny. That happened today. And i was like every day. We d- be like all right. You gotta gotta get some funny. So i was like it really just kind of took for me and And again kind of rolled into my personality a little bit. And i like to imagine that i'm on so deep deep enough that i'd like to think back of the oral history of stories being passed down from like you think about like the odyssey and the iliad and like shakespeare like those things were passed down orally a lot of the time and he had a lot of humor whether it's hidden double entendre. Whether you notice it or not. But i think comedy's just very important. In general i can identify with the second. Half you said about these stories because i've always been stories and i read those kinds of stories like elliott odyssey like in middle school whereas read them because i liked them and when i was in college like i did you know so we have flow yet to i took theatre history classes. We we of course all three different classes had to study and read a bunch of stuff. Shakespeare stuff you know. Milton stuff like stuff by like crazy. Know just legally. August wilson up down like so many different people and like it's just as you said like you it's a it's a rich rich. Oral tradition a time to get based off of but also in their times. They were like actually having parties. The was a lot different back. Mountain lakes was doing their people. Drink and people were like young talking. They're flirting with each other. They're treated more like a club club. You know very active very raunchy and the actors had speak overall that you know that was really crazy. But not my. My family was very serious. Family a humorous people. Very late stoic. People sherman so i felt a lot of times maybe a yearning to say. I wish y'all laugh more Right do you have any siblings. Yeah i got siblings. While i was going to say i heard are something like a lot of the time. I don't know if you're like oldest youngest like whatever but i'm the youngest. I heard a lot of the time. The youngest the funny one because they're always trying to break the tension series. Snus was going on with the older siblings. Like fucking for whatever. Yeah i was doing this for a while. I do have a little brother now. But he's the only thirteen years. I was like the youngest. Okay so via probably similar. Maybe it yeah for sure. But yeah and then i again kind of went along the same path around high school time i actually started with like it was more of like youtube videos than than burnham came into my life and he had a guy so crazy he has wild. I i cringe at a lot of this stuff now. A lot of this other stuff. Sodas he it makes me its first. Song is called a world on fire a little bit a little bit longer. Now one the inside was very. I think for him like progressing forward. I think it was a really good move for him. Because he was trying to disassociate with that like older kind of childish humor he was doing fuller with more sophisticated stuff while still touching on some of the the childish like kind of concepts that he had. I think yeah you got to go through that. We wouldn't get him now without the version of him. Then you can take a while to find that like your role authentic artistic police. Yeah absolutely so. I mean and that's where it's progressing forward. Well i guess so. When when did you do stand up for the first time. I was your first show So we're now in a lie from remarkable. I think i did. My first show in bay was really. I think so a lot of may i did it like towards the tail end or something like that. I know i did a punchline. And i didn't do it again for like two or three weeks out just like visiting different spots skulking out type stuff very ritzy how to schedule inflows the. I got you a little bit of nervousness and i i definitely so i've my kind of journey with it as a little weird so like i started back i want. I've been since high school kind of been. So after bo burnham i got into like louis and my bigly thomson guru alright guys. Yeah and I i knew. I wanted to try it so as soon as i got into college. I was like i. This is one of my start start doing it. And i went and tried to live for some open mics in a university and i was this one place called donkey cafe that i went ahead an open mic and i go in on tuesday year. Was this my freshman year of college. Two thousand seventeen. I think and and i go in and i sit down and i walk in on like some talent poem about how she was like. Brutally like abused psychology. And i was like. This is not where i need to be often. And everyone starts snapping gopro open mic for. Everybody does like a variety show. Yeah exactly and and so like. I felt very uncomfortable. When i was like not gonna go up and do anything. I didn't even really had anything planned. Like i was just kinda scouted out. But i had some ideas that were in my head and then actually so like they were just doing. They didn't have a list or anything. Which i thought they were. Just like all right. He wants to go next hop there and nobody went like after the person that i went in and Somebody hopped up. she's again. I don't have anything like prepared but i could tell some stories from my band for something you know. And she liked posted funny stories like people were laughing with there. Might okay all right. Break attention and i was like okay. I'm i can follow this up. I try to follow this up. And i actually ended up hopping up that right after that and it was it was very interesting because it was not like not nothing was prepared. I just had like the bullet points in my head and kind of a you know we get five minutes says now i was probably up there for ten minutes from rambling on. Yeah it is not good. But i got laughs. I got the snaps that gave me that little hope but It wasn't enough wasn't enough to bring me back. I don't know what happened. But i kind of lost. I started working after that to encounter like scott lost in the job but then my summer after sophomore year started garner cincinnati and did like five shows over the summer but like i tell people like a tuesday crowd in cincinnati versus like tuesday crowded affiliate. You're gonna have five people in the cincinnati crowd when you come to philly on tuesday. You're at least going to six. You know what i mean. Sure so you know it's it's very different so like coming out here like in our. I've throughout high school and college. I've always written down low things that make me glass or something that i think i could use for stand up and so it's really interesting to actually come out here start doing it regularly not just come up and do a one off thing like a couple of things but do it. Regularly do the same jokes and actually work on the pool from that. Well of like ideas. That i had so you said as you start doing it again like sophomore summer and then were you doing sporadically throughout college. Or did you like kinda slow down after that minimum and all will so. I went back to school and again. I didn't have any over. Mike's not worked a lot during school. And then covert and. I graduated my junior year so At major hospitality. Like it matters. Yeah i mean the the reason. I majored in. It's just because it's the easiest major you can get a basically all the classes are like just be nice if people. That's pretty much it customer service. Let's go for work while you're doing That's i mean was serving and bartending in That's why couldn't again like you do that during the nighttime you can't do stand up when you're boggling friday night or something you know so yeah i So after that covert hit in. I actually started wanting to do it more but i couldn't go out and i ended up. Doing was printing out transcripts of like day. Chapelle or like louis c. k. And try to start to like break it down by like the set up and like the punchline like you know get the back workings of it and see if i can apply that to what i'm going to start doing everything you know. Once i moved out here and everything started open. Open opening back up But then i found out that you know after looking breaking those down like oh these guys are thousands of times like better than i will ever be. You know what i mean. It's both because. I think we all kind of start off sounding like somebody else sound like people. We admire whatever we got into. We get into it usually because some models something that we thought was right and so like l. It'd make sense but at the same time we don't realize we're all the time tracking that stuff at least think a little bit. That's how it was with me all the time. Listening to those people like you know like successfully clues and even report imitation if your reporting mutation of somebody who's like the best. You're not doing that bad. Yeah yeah well and what's interesting back in the day. So i started reading into like george carlin and richard pryor some of the older older comics and they actually used to each other's sets like they would go up. Okay let me try your set tonight it again and try it out mike. They would test it in. Like kinda see what the rhythm and flow of. It was behind it and kind of work at at their own angle. I guess Which is really interesting like now. Actually going up regularly for a couple of months now Jewish so like you know. How did you first go like did you bomb completely. you know. it wasn't a complete bomb. Yeah man i was not bad. I feel like it's not like it was roaring laughter. Anything sure sure. But i feel i got a decent amount of chuckles my first. Yeah the nice crowd that day and then light moving forward so like for me again like this far in. I've had a lot of reconstruction with my content. So like the first time. I was just telling a story straight through and kind of like they were funny parts of the story. But i didn't have any timing to it. I didn't have any like actual like jokes. That i fit in. It was just more about the story. Funny things that happen. You know what i mean whereas now like i guess i need to like a go to punch you know like a goto one liner. You know what. I mean if that works maybe build off of that like grab people's attention with that kind of work through that You know that structure a little bit. Have you experienced anything like that. You kinda just cut out. You re told me a little bit because you have similar. Start with your stories. I think talking about making it. More efficient right does definitely like more wordy guy and so like i felt like that was the feedback especially from that first one That i didn't even the cycle especially the second. Actually i just talked over the time. And so i bought like oh five. Minutes is not enough to do the things that i'm doing but then i thought about it again. I think like it. One hundred percent is because you gotta get type sound like i think like oftentimes you go through something how it went and you just gotta like chop stuff down and i think it's natural for us because we watched so many other people do it and that's another thing that's cool about the adult mike structure accidents because like a force us to see intermediate expert level comedians. Come up and like we see. I wanna i wanna get bigger reactions today. Like it's about what i want but it's also like fucking i see what works some like if i i what it is promises punch lines up getting more that reaction in the way i want to and as an ethical you know. Yeah yeah definitely definitely. It's you gotta be debut efficient with your words up there. 'cause like if you if you stray just like a little bit you know people are gonna start looking at their beer trying to get another drink you know talking with who they came with and you really want to keep their attention that whole time because if they're listening a lot of times you know we know funny right you know it just it just takes people listening kind of hearing you out on. What you think is funny. I guess i'll say we we funny but some people think they are but they're not doing as well as other do like that's based on a couple of different things because it's a lot of it goes into different stuff but i do think at the heart of it like performing is more about writing and i think these people who are really really good at writing i shows you know Yeah and so like kind of pivoting a little bit. Like i want to talk about people that do it like one time and then people that do it regularly. You know what. I mean because like going up that first time it can be breaker make or break moment for a lot of people. I don't know if you've seen anybody like i had a guy worked with. That came out and was like watching the shows. And i started doing. And he's like. I'm going to go up there and do it man. And then and then we need like he was like the host was like your next time. He's like he started freaking out. You know do. My heart is beating. I don't know if i can do this. And he actually like left but Some people go up there they do at once like up and then they they cut it out from there and it's just It makes me feel a little bit better about myself because like it's like hey. That's something that i can do that. Somebody can't but it also is it. It's very interesting to see the different types of people that can and can't do you know what i mean. Yeah yeah no side seinfeld. Has that joke right like he. He mentioned that thing about the fact that like a lot of people would rather chew off their own armed and speak in public and then he goes into that whole joke about this concept of. I guess so. That means if you're at the funeral of your at a funeral you would rather be in the casket and giving the you know. It's a big a lot public recognizes when people see that as a sense of bravery. And that's something that's important to try to have but the same time you realize that like bravery is only a measure about your personal self and so you got to be careful because like you need to be competitive yourself against yourself because it's about where your comfort donors and momentum like oh some people are okay doing certain things just by seems genetics. You know like they they just feel at ease doing certain activities and so blessed. Are you to find something that you feel comfortable doing now. And after that. Like i i. That's what it calls for for me i was. I was pretty nervous. I would have done it sooner. I wasn't so nervous but also had years of doing other kinds of performing. And i think that that stuff helps me out and so like i'm like oh i can kinda understand a little bit because i like i like. I was doing almost seven years of theater before i even tried to do this. Kind of thing And so i i sense it and and there are people who say cool. I'm going to try it and i tried. I don't like it. And i don't agree with the concept of like trying something once and that's kind of what i've been saying to myself a lot of times you'll ask me i say like i'm i'm seeing is something i enjoy and i just feel like something that you enjoy. It takes more than one time to really get at it. You know like. I feel like you know for something like this. You gotta do it thirty times forty times before you really say like oh this is my flex i can get into it because it's not just like that. The reaction from stage. It's like the whole lifestyle. Got realize that this is like real like greedy blue-collar performing you could you could go a lot of years. I'll make a lot of money and like it would be a wake for a lot of hours and spend a lot of other hours just trying to keep up. That's what it's like when it's like people go once because i'm like at that point for me. I just wanna keep up keep up with the other freshmen. I wanna make sure i graduate. You realize that if you skip class too much to happen that way eventually to other people are going. They're going to go off to other opportunities. And you're going to be working the circuit the same way because like morally here and there and at that point like yeah you should bail out because it's it's a it's a tough thing and like you only want people who really fucked with it to stay with it right right. Yeah when i asked you you know. You're like yeah. I always try something for like what you said like six months or something before like really i just pick a bunch of pick a unit that make sense for whatever that thing is in my mind you know as i felt like for this. I'm like yeah. I'm gonna be doing at least forty times because i feel like what six months it goes back to that thing like. If you only go what four or five ten times or six months. You're not to get into it right you know. Yeah i mean you could see that. Like i knew that i was gonna enjoy stand up but it took me some time to like work into it through over the us you know. I came in and came out a little bit. And now that i'm here doing it regularly like i'm really starting to get that kind of dry for you know that kind of like the feel when you when you work on jokes and you know they work. I think that in you have a good set. I think that's what really drives me then. The next time you have a bad set your book. I need to work it back up so that it works again. You know what i mean. I need to figure out what i did wrong. This time to figure out what i didn't do you know and then put it together. That's impo because i also for in in a way like i can't totally identify a whack. Nichols i really can't bro. Almost almost every single time. I do it. People get reaction from it. And so i'm like l. like and it's not just the people who like pound to like people just like to be nice for sure it tend to be. There's a healthy mix of people who literally just come up to say like you're doing cool stuff and i feel like you got also beginning positive reinforcement from what you're working on and if you're not that can be frustrating understandably because i've been in other arenas where i haven't gotten to like that and like it's been frustrated and so i think you find out where you bail on what you wanna bail out but i also think if you learn from your past you wanna give yourself a fair shot at order your interest might be and like i really get to that. Like stand up comedies. The heart of like making comedy. There's a lot of different kinds of ways of doing public. Speaking thing but to be funny is like the heart of it. So there's plenty of spinoff gigs. And i'm like gave it'll be easier to do if you cut your teeth here and plenty of people who are not that good. Stand up who stay with their hard enough to learn how to write. Well you know. And then they write all different types of things skits movies to me shows like plays into your hosting on different kinds of ways. They end in different versions of it again into corporate life than of corporate gigs. They gave like instruction does a lot of different ways to spin it off. Once you start to make people be a laugh on the rhythm that you wanna make level. Yeah well and that's another thing that i wanted to bring up about kind of starting out. I'm still very new to the idea of like. I'm not i'm i'm scared of crowd work. Basically that's something that i needed to dive into to get over but like so. This week was the first time this past week was the first time that i went twice during the week. I know you go five days a week. Which i mean hats off to you but like this you know i'm not i don't i don't wanna get into why just because i mean you got a lot of energy and i'm very slow persons of time. You know just kind of getting into. But the point being i went i've been going to st. Which is a various divy bar. They have a stage that you're up on his kind of darker. So you know you when you go there on tuesdays pretty much you get their attention pretty easily people. Listen to you a little bit and you know it's very You can try things out in and had it work or go off. Well people know that you china it out whereas like i went to south house on wednesday and that place is so much different because that's like a restaurant right and they basically just move a table out of the way and put a microphone so instead of other communists in my kind of people paying and listen to try stuff out like work work it out you got people that are like drunk as hell talk and have conversations and you really got to be able to write about it you write about it. Yeah yeah you really got to like. Bring them in and my kinda like if you're if you're trying like a joke that has a long setup you're gonna lose half the room for you get to that punch here's also like what runs through my mind about stuff like i have a little bit of a running joke but also what. I think. The solid hypothesis. That like you get funnier. The higher up you are from the audience and so i think that like elevation makes the humor and think get a stage laser slightly above all the other people. So it's easier to get their attention and south house. They put us level like you said just table away right and so i think that's that's part of the whole game of it all because i think that like you kind of said this thing about crowd work and i think chrysler is building confidence and it's fun to get into what if it's your fame but honestly it's also cool because in a way of like the higher up you get the less you do. Crowd work clower works in the clubs. And they'll work at bars and restaurants to open lakes but once you try to do theaters and trying to do sketches. Going crowd work like that. The higher up in the more like mass-appeal. You're trying to get the less accessible you're gonna be able to get out with. This comes to this crazy stuff stuff about the clips and like oh. It's also a way of like eating up time. That i'm not too sure. All the way is like a like a a sophisticated way to go about using your time right. You know. Because i think when i use i understand that i'm also feeling of time and was. Do you know this happened to me last week. I thought like oh this one. Okay like i got a fair amount of chuckles or whatever but i had planned a lot more actual material to work on but i liked and i didn't get to it because it took too long to get through the back of four fouls having wendy audience members and i think like look. It's only five if you take a minute doing it thirty. I think people see. You're not doing four five material. You're doing this back and forth with an audience member. Well i agree one hundred percent. I understand that there is something to be said for like. I've talked to some experience. Comedians in there like you know you don't like it. You don't have to use that full five minutes if you don't want you know what i mean you can go up there and try what you want and build it do what you're feeling you don't have to be there for that and that was true but as a really good exp- like something that i learned from an experienced comic around here but yes i want to talk about so i guess that's kind of like you know building on that and kind of working towards that. That's as far as i've gotten in the process with kind of working on humor in kind of working breaking down my writing process in kind of the style of the jokes on child. But you know one thing. I do want to talk about was just the experience at the you know that the people that come to Open likes regularly and people that you see come like every once in a while like you get such a fun crowd like you'll get people that are older unemployed doing standup. We had one week. Where some lady to show titties on steak but then the next week we had like a dude kind of wander in some sort of drugs and like you know almost got in a fight with out there for that. Yeah yeah so. I don't know. Do you have any funny stories specifically like any open mics. That you've been through. That had like anything. Wild happened while. I i i guess i guess you name the main one you know what that That homeless guy coming through. Yeah we're we're out south like the those. Those are places like those guys things happening for some reason. That doesn't go down my way and so again. No i think that like i. I can't say. I have so far done about nineteen shows. How would you like to tell us flu. That thing that happened after raven that one time we went out with this. And i can this way. What story after. I went out and the raven like hooked up with some drug dealers. That is funny. You're you're you're because like i. I was outside of ravens just like kicking it. The way people do across the street from raymond's and like i was someone in conversation. No no hair. Here's what happened. There was some tall guy there was like. Oh man. I'm gonna go over there and like talk to these girls. You wanna come with me. And i was like art cool. No problems real quick quick. Can we give a little background of raven fugger. Even as the raven is just a legendary open mic spot might be less plays through. It's sticky and and one of the comedians has a joke about doing crack. Cocaine in azure. Have again let. That's the underbelly. That's the real hard. And most things. I think that like for one. I give them first and foremost props for being such a long running open mic and supporting amateur comedians fairly for so long and consistently and giving them a spot two nights a week bro to do stuff and like i think like the rest of that stuff is true but bigger tall the host there that like y'all have been able to make that happen so consistently get a place to be raw bro because a lot of places where you can't say whatever but ravens people feel comfortable saying whatever and that's really funny think that that's a place where people are like. I'm not afraid to throw out those words that maybe they think they're going to get canceled for the places point so much love to them. And like yeah. Y'all can go in and take them up to that place and we're often that'd be sure but i take like ravens is as multilevel spot where one level is comedy other levels are dancing and drinking a hanging out and you can meet all different types of people in the heart of the city. You know this tall gentle. Yeah and so we were talking. Forget what we were talking about but like this one of those things to happen. Like i'm just in the back. He was vaping vaping chilling with them and we went out so i he bought me like browns are cool man. We went to go kick it and he liked like mentioned seniors girl and like this girl like playing with her knife and he's talking to her about like oh award all his life issues rather have a knife that had gone or whatever. She's just got one other curl clearly. Doug girls the leader and like she shorter slightly the and like a dog. So they're showing each other this life tricks talking to the person this guy goes away. Another guy comes up was like a black guy with dread and he's got a camera. I thought who's working event. But he said like now he just came here with the camera from some other thing. All right cool row And so like we actually end up talking until like one thirty two in the morning and these girls are crazy because the leader one was coming at me like yeoman if you really wanna get with these millennial chicks you got to like get on the belief that you'll slept dick and i was like i don't know if that's true manually. Not just tell them that. You've done three ways with guys before shit like that and all i don't know man issues like twenty three. I think and then decide kick taller. One was like twenty six or some shit like that And so like. It's two o'clock now ravens close. They call and they asked us moving to come back with them article. We'll come back no problem and so we tried to some place. I think it's really actually and when we get there and there's some garlic bawling her eyes out in front of their place and this girl's bawling your eyes out because of some relationship like her and her girlfriend and going through whatever and so like the alpha one and like the dreads guy. Stay downstairs to console her but me and the psychic one whose apartment it was one upstairs and like it. We the moment you get up there i while you walk through. It feels like really must each immediately heavy when you walk in there and you walk up a flight and then you walk up like a spiral staircase made of aluminum. I don't know why would like this. It was like a very fancy for one. What's going on and i knew. Crx stacks of magazines all nets and fruit flush throughout the whole day. You clear that shit out the way there's a stripper pole. Go straight down the middle. And she's like yeah man. I've been stripper since i was fourteen. Wild and she really does hop on that. Poll at like fucking puts on court couple moves. He's very tradition in. The right is huge jazz cage with one single digit opinion yet. It's her and she's like yeah later on. If you want let him out flies on your shoulder look people say when they're white And so like the eventually other to come up. And we're like smoking weed chilling like they didn't have any papers we like rolled up some book they have the fanciest books of seen in a while. I've read those kinds of books but like for these kinds of people like dostoevsky. And they're like they have like very complicated like plato socrates. These people reading very complex material. And they're like talk to me about it like they really actually wrote them shifts and then eventually she pulls out of qatar and we end up just like beat boxing and she's like playing the guitar and singing again like we did out to like three thirty four in the morning and bro before i like peace the fuck out know it went straight like that even hook up with them shakes just like chatted and fucking it around with like musician. She the random issues on these girls were being very aggressive wrestling. The about black rights issues. But whatever told me about this and tell me about that fucking fucking wrong before. Yeah yeah and that's and that's really what i love about the city so far. It's just fucking messes in adventures. You can get into dude like try like as long as you don't judge people right off the bat i you can get into any sort of fucking but you also gotta come correct. I felt like all coming through a little too. Too friendly vibe tonight. I felt like with the lift drivers bro. Like i was like yo you if you feel you can't be like people just randomly patches but they want to know that too tough. You don't wanna know that you can hang up for like they kind of root out here. I got buckle live fights. Philly braille phillies. a room. please offer really gonna do to decide. I need to put on. I mean i'm from the midwest. The nicest please do like while i was talking to you about like sidewalk etiquette grow in the mid west. You by somebody you gotta say like how you know the widest thing. We say how sometimes has grown or like. You said how sincere my dad says it. Every time i go. I went to that more as a joke. But like is how the no not i sincerely. It's a fun word though. I wish i throw it curious. Wishing i never been to the bit less before. Yeah yet i think farther saudi kentucky they definitely say it a lot more. Haven't read from kentucky actually. Yeah really cool. I mean that's what i'm saying. They're nice people it's just. They got allies. Soon as millions are at one friend and she's definitely nice the rest of the all questionable. Yeah but anyways like walking around over here you gotta make sure you like. Keep your head down. You're sometimes you. Just kinda like be unbothered. Our face like. I need to put on that tough skin as opposed from Like i said like all the nice people just want to you know they do a lot of flexible and i feel like it's not only only got an excellent escalate. There used to like talking with other places might perceive as more aggressive families should make kind of get that whole by other people come here they think like oh this now this is just my phillies self rail. You gotta get on top of the lake fucking stopping at have law back and forth whenever you read. The person thinks. yeah no. That's one of the reasons i moved out. Here is because people said they're. They're very rude and brash. But unlike but that's them being true that's them like living their lives. You know what i mean. They're not trying to fuck around. And you know. Waste people's time or anything like that. So i get. They got to know if you're call. Leafs are kind of that relationships exactly high so so moving food with you. What you've got planned. I mean how you've been doing it for a while. now you thinking about doing it for another few months here got kinda mentioned earlier. I've done nineteen so far. So i figured i try. Get my cell forty. Maybe i'll try and get myself to a forty to forty. He goes man. Because i think Also what. I was saying earlier like. I think i don't wanna lose ladder. The real game here. I a little bit sometimes feel like i get caught up in the lifestyle a bit and a lifestyle so young from you already but like. I'm just such a like an energetic. Do you know. I think the reason why i really got into the game to see it. Become more funny and the writer become more funny on stage. Mostly you know it's it's a lot of getting on stage but it's a lot of time in the right and to do what you said like actually do the structure stuff from because that's a judge when not you can get gigs. I think like hey like a performing job was really writing job and like job is still job and so if i can't find a way to put two or three hours a day into my schedule when i'm really trying to whip it then like i'm i'm not trying to do this so i have a place that like. Hang out make buddies. Like i kind of like you're mentioning with people who come and drop in one or two times. I think there's also people come around here fairly often. But they're here just like make friends on socialize and so they want the hulk the being funny part to come easy and i think like oh. That's fine while i'm good. But that's not why i'm really trying to get into it. It's fine to make all these cool people but for real. I'm like oh i can. I get good enough being funny to make this like a thing that i don't have to like yoko not get about to do something i can. Step away from other gig jamaica fare monitoring and like move around and see more of the see more of the country. See more of the world absolutely absolutely do. Can you imagine do like stand up in a room full of people who don't speak it. I do think about it. How i think about the idea of even learning because thompson gura mentioned that shit full spanish shows which would yeah. That's impressive but an and george lopez goats in the game like some people could do both unlike over a certain amount of time. Like yeah i would love to learn comedic. Timing another language Well that's good to hear man and like that's what i mean the another reason i like hanging out with you. It's very you've got the energy you got that that head you know you kind of head towards a goal a direction like working on yourself in the game and if it doesn't work out not lose sight of what you you know what you're Result is suppose so. I mean i appreciate you coming out here to talk about standup with got any light shouts out or anything you throw on the nam and now the really good conversation. I appreciate it sure. Now shouts out to you for putting the time together. Now they're episode in the books. One thing before i let you go did wanna kinda say a you know. I think personally yes. Stand up. comedy is about routine in how how often you do it. How many reps you get in I was just talking with the comedian last wednesday about how he even compared to like the co video. Where he's just like. I work out for two hours of the morning. then i take break in into our to ours there then. By the end of the week. I've worked out like thirty more times than you while you're just working out once every day so definitely makes sense. But i think there is something to be said for everybody's learning style too like Your urine individuals. So yes you need to get reps in. But i think there are other the whole reason. I wanted to do this. Podcast in the first place was because it really helps me to think about how other comedians break it down actually So you know there's something to be said for that and In general there's a lot of different ways to come at anything that you're doing and stand up is no different than that so hope you learned a lot. I hope you had fun listening and I appreciate you coming back through if this is your first time. Welcome now. Follow me on instagram. At steve mcshea swapo's motions. Thanks again everton for coming recording with me. And i hope you'll have a great week. Thank you so much. Love you mental. Gabe i'm woody. Howdy howdy howdy. I give me that.

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Ep 185: Robert Kelly

Hyperbrole: A Comedy Advice Podcast

48:29 min | 1 year ago

Ep 185: Robert Kelly

"Good a folks. It's Stephen from a comedy advice podcast and I am ready to rumble. I hope you guys are too cuz we've got quite the episode and by we I mean me is I am all alone here just sitting here almost naked if it wasn't for the bow tie that I had around my neck. I'm like a Chippendale reject that is still just sitting in his own shame and just went to podcasting because he his body didn't cut it but you know, what else here. I am and I'm happy. I am happy with myself. I am reciting affirmations saying, you know what you may not have a chiseled chest, but you've got chiseled wit and and you know what, you know who helps chisel it even more while shiting all over me the very special guest Robert Kelly got Robert Kelly. I think I remember first name. Him on back when it was the Opie and Anthony show and he is just so freaking funny. He can talk about anything. He's got an opinion about everything and he will be sure to shame on you which I was hoping for and he delivered he is so funny. He also you may have seen him on Netflix. He was on the degenerate season 2. He's also on comedy Central's this week at the Comedy Cellar and here's a one-hour special Robert Kelly live at the village underground which debuted on Comedy Central Netflix and you can see it on Amazon Prime. He's also acted in Denis Leary Show sex and rock and roll and he learned the drums for his part in that he was also on Louis. He was Louis CK's brother and that show he's been on a bunch of stuff and this guy is just so freaking funny and you know, what if you're a phoenix you're going to be able to see him. He is coming out to Phoenix October 1st through the third link is in the show notes for tickets at the Tempe Improv. So Kong Dong. See him but you know what first hold your horses listen to this episode. Enjoy Robert Kelly and all of his essence. You can almost smell the Musk from this episode. It's it's like ripping into an old book just to get that not the rubber Kelly's old. I mean, I guess he's kind of old but you know what? Let's just say he's class. He's a really funny comedian. I have a great time. You're going to have a great time. And other than that just thank you guys for if you're listening if you've made it this far and you haven't abandoned me. Thank you. You are you guys are like my Samsung to me being Frodo in this which I am kind of like a whiny little bitch when I can't do this when it's too hard and all of you Sam's out there have been like, you know, what dog? Mr. Frodo, you can do it. You can go you can that's my favorite brush. You can go to the top of the mountain and the top of the mountain and that's like the fucking iTunes, Rincon, Georgia. And you know what? I'm there you guys have led me there and I'm charting. I'm charting hard and I'm in the top hundred and the comedy improv podcast for Apple podcasts over a hundred seventy-three reviews. That was very specific. And you know what you guys can leave more if you guys haven't yet, please subscribe leave a review wherever you're listening tell your friends follow me on Instagram. It's all in the show notes so you can follow there and if you can afford it, I know that we're in troubled times here, but if you want to support my dreams in my passion head on over to patreon and for as little as two months measly dollars a month, you can support me and help me get better. You can help me get people that can help me with this podcasters. Cuz right now I'm doing the same thing. I'm doing the production. I'm doing the Outreach. I'm doing the spooking, which I guess I don't want to Outsource that part but it's so much fun, but it is also so much time and anything that you guys can do a job. Helps whether it's the review saying this is amazing or this sucks that helps to whatever you want to do. So thank you guys really appreciate it. Appreciate you boss. And I'm going to just Waltz into the show. So hold my hand. Let me hold. You not the danger zone. I'm going to hold you right in between, you know, the buttocks and the upper back. And so we're going to waltz 1234 box right into the episode. It's comedy advise podcast advice podcast for Devon and Friends may be exaggerated statements need to be taken. Literally. What was that seven a company that help cast? Hello. Hello. Hey, how's it going, man? What's happening? Brother sound? Does it sound? All right. It sounds great. Dude. Your voice is just wage for radio. That big ass microphone is really making it sound good to it's the same microphone you got I just the the I spit chicken salad on the other cover. Oh shit. I had to change it. I don't know where it is. I tried to clean it, but I can't find it. Now. What's up? It looks good. Nah, you know just hanging out here in Arizona. It's hot as fuck still and it's September almost October. Oh shit. I forgot about that about it being hot as fuck. Yeah, I forget every time I go to Arizona. I forget that it's like standing behind a bus and I was always bring the wrong fucking close. I'm usually some long sleeve shirt sweating my twat off and black everything. So well, it's tough to because there's like a 30 degree variance each day need to cuz there's no clouds. It's just son and then nighttime and then sun again, so it could be like sixty degrees and nice in the morning you do that again, you know song night son. So, oh my God, just amazing. I am a hypnotist in my spare time. So are you really know? There's not that much to do in Arizona birth. I haven't gotten to that hobby yet just podcasting for now. But anyway, it's great to have you on Bobby. We are on a comedy advice podcast. My name is Stephen Satani home. And that beautiful voice you guys been listening to has been Robert Kelly Bobby Kelly. Which one do you prefer? I don't give a shitt. It's like one of those names. It's Robert Kelly because when I first got into sag, Bobby Kelly was taken all the names I want so I had to go Robert Kelly cuz I think I'm Robert Kelly was I don't know some fucking poet and woodcarver in New Hampshire some had my name Bobby Kelly. So I had to take Robert. Oh, gotcha. Oh, both of them are fucking worked out. Well, one of them better than the other cuz the other ones a child molester that I have now. So yeah, I was going to say when I was doing some research. I was Googling Robert Kelly and I saw that you peed on underage girl was like, wait a second. That's not the one well he got caught. You got that was his downfall that's on him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it makes sense to me too. It's like we're all trying to make it. We're all trying to see you get our dreams and get money and and then to finally do it and to be so bored with money Fame and and fucking suck that you have to like do weird shit. And then you know and I look one time I can understand doing so but let me check this shit out. And then after you do it should I do it? I'm never doing that again. We've all done something sexual with like I'm never doing that again, you know what I mean? But to just continue to do it and it's like did what the fuck you if if I had a set of your Fame I would just quietly right off in the distance. And then when you're done being famous go live in an island like Marlon Brando and fucking bang monkeys who gives a toss it seriously. It's like why how important is that to hit to you to be able to like crave it so much you just constantly going after now that's why my wife says we only have sex once a week so that way I crave just the sex and then I stopped being on her and doing all that other crazy shit, right? I'm glad you stopped that because that was just that's just unheard of, you know, especially in Arizona. It's probably so Hot there it's a way to hydrate. It's it really is. I mean, it's cold compared to the air temp. You know that there's some there's some MMA guys a drink their pee in the morning really odd, first the first cup of hot piss out of you or the morning. Just some people believe in I wonder if you could have a preference like I speed vs. Hoppy. Yeah. Well, I'm prediabetic so my tastes like Sugar Smacks, so mine would not be that bad. It's probably nice and sweet home. I think that's helped Retreats found out he had diabetes. He actually he has girlfriend was like your PJs good us out. He's like oh shit. So I like I've got to the moment of just more than people a was like a little taste here and there. I mean, maybe the spray got into the mouth but no no no no, no, no, no. No, I think it was a direct stream into the mouth. Yeah. I mean I have had a couple of friends added into that really which is weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had a couple of friends that were into that. Yeah. I don't know. Oh you oh, dude, you don't have to affect the way you don't have to say. I don't know. I don't get it. I agree with you. I don't get it either. Yeah, you might have a point about the Arizona thing where it's so hot here. Just having more hot stuff on you doesn't seem appealing. So maybe that's why it's not so common here. Yeah, if you've if my paint tasted like the purple vitamin water and it was cold. That might be I might want that. Oh, yeah, if it was a cold like a slushie almost. Oh, that'd be great at all. Give me a few P grape slushy would be pissing on each other all the time during the summer instead of opening fire hydrants in the Bronx. It would just be older men. Just peeing all over the page. This is terrible where we going. What's up my god? Well, this is a great stream-of-consciousness, but we'll keep moving on what's going to say really excited to have you here in Phoenix speaking of Phoenix and the hot weather and all that shit all the stuff that makes it not sound that great, but it sounds like I've been hearing on your podcasts and other podcasts that you've been on that you've been on the road again. Yep. Of comedies in this punk rock stage we're doing shows sometimes in backyards and things like that, but we're wind let's do that. I'll keep the hand thing but like like pre covid-19. You're already famous comedian. But I mean you had the creeps with kids to her. You had some sold out stadiums and theaters I mean and and you got a bunch of dates five festivals that you were going to go to. Yeah. Kovacic just pooped all that shit. So what was it like going through that when everything kind of just stopped off the only thing that sucked about it is that number one you found out how on essential you were, you know what I mean? It was just like wow you you just nothing in the grand scheme of the world. Your skill is the first to go, you know, you know what I mean? It's like a Goodbye song. On nothing and you'll be the last to come back. It's like women children men and then comedians are last to get the raft to get on that. It's like it's like yeah, it's a carpenter sneakers. And I mean Jesus people the people that Job Lots is more important than me. You know, it's like Panera Bread is more important than my job. You know. I am God, so it's Five Below is open how many it's it's it was really like, holy shit man. The boss said if when when it gets when it gets serious where it's just dude just be grateful you get to tell dick jokes for a living wage and number two. It sucked because everybody was in the same boat. Usually when your life falls apart. Somebody dies something happens you go bankrupt you could go to a bunch of people and have them let you know have your pity pot but everybody you went to was like, yeah, me too. It's like fuck fuck. You can't even get the you can't even get the map and I'm here for you. It's cuz yeah, I do me too. Yeah my whole yeah, and of course, it was a little annoying because I know really famous Rich comedians, you know, like yeah man, I'm on the same boat. It's like we're in the same storm. You're in a much better fucking boat than most dial fucking you're not worried about a your mortgage, you know worried about farting you mean you got four houses you can move and to another one the smaller of the four so it was a little Annoying with that. But yeah, you know, it's And went away quick man, it went away fast and it sucks cuz I feel like I knew it was coming. Really everything everything was just too good. You know, everything was just fucking grainy and now two years ago when I got my brand new truck. I remember I I was I was just like man, I fucking things are going great. I really love life right now. I got the truck Ford Ranger that I wanted and I'm doing gigs and I feel great. This is awesome. And then I smashed into a pole in a parking lot and movies and and fucking Maryland and you know, six months later my truck came back. I was like shut your face and I remember just for the month before the pandemic. I was like dude I got just what you said. I got my accused of kids tours going and selling out and I got my own shows and I'm about to move into I was going to get another house and home life is good and I blame myself for the pandemic. It's my fault. It's rightfully. So I mean, yes, a lot of people say you should be grateful for things, you know, take a second birth elect. I think if you do that bad things happen cuz you're at a good moment. So if you just say, you know, what whatever I'm not going to be grateful for this shit this this new truck. Could I have now? It's all right. It's all right. It's just I should have just kept my trap shut. You know what I mean? Cuz everything was literally fucking I mean the best it's been so long and so long, you know, I just got I had just gotten the negative people out of my life. I so good. I felt free like a new-age start, you know, but whatever good things happened from it though. I mean, if you look back, you know, you had to figure out where you were you had to figure out what you were really wanted to do, you know, this this business got filtered out a lot a lot of those Comics that really weren't into it had to go home and get the fuck out of the business and there's a good that's a good, you know wash, you know pushed out those toxins. Yeah flushed out a lot of bulshit and now when it comes back, but this is a great cuz you see Comics we don't give a fuk we have table. To this it's not something that we can't we can just look I'll go find something else Comics have to do this. So it's like you see us performing at Drive-Ins and fucking behind hotels and Lawns and on the fucking Street on a pallet. It's like we gotta get we have to get on stage. It's not like we can just go we can do as many podcasts as we want. It's not going to fill the hole of stand-up comedy, you know, so I'm glad that there's States like in Texas and Arizona that don't care about the pandemic that just opened up and I'm like, yeah, we're like, we're covid-19. That we can't shoot at right so just open every yeah. Yeah you guys like we beat AIDS we can be Kovac dead. Okay. We're going to have assumed we're looking at some fucking ass on a boat. You guys don't give a fuk. Yeah, that's pretty much the Arizona motto here. I I love Arizona. It had been I think people opened up to the fact that it's real maybe a month or two ago before that people were just like whatever and and The Masks nobody was wearing a mask. Either way. People are just like I can't see it's not real so that didn't go step thing though, dude because it's You can marry you have to wear a mask into the restaurant from your car to the restaurant. When you sit down you can take the mask off what I don't get that so I don't have to worry you don't have to wear masks. But when you leave you have to put the mask, if you go to the bathroom, you have to put the mask on I don't get you go to a restaurant. You can take the mask off you can eat. I'm on the plane. I have to wear the mask. But if I take a sip of my drink or eat my food on the plane. I can take my mask off. I don't get any of it and they told us not to wear a mask and then they told us to wear masks and you know, and the mass like well the mass you where are good. You have to wait M fuking $13.95. That's the only mass that will prevent it. Now people are wearing fucking you know, there weren't underwear on their face it I mean, it doesn't matter as long as you're covering your face. It doesn't matter what you're wearing. Just as long as you have something saying that you you know, and and you I have antibodies you can't get it again. You can get it again. But the it's a fuck. It's a nice day at this point. Yeah. Yeah. It's who do we believe what to do? It's acting crazy and then and then the whole thing of like, yeah, it's good to wear masks, but then you can go to a restaurant and then it's like when you're away from most people going into the restaurant where the mask but then when you go in and they're surrounded by people. Yeah. It's a big it up with their mouths open a talking take the mask off while you're walking in. Not saying anything. I want you mask on the exact it's ridiculous, but you don't have to worry about that in Arizona cuz it's mask off all the time. It's like Havasu but instead of bikini off the mask always off and we're here to party. So I do love have a show. I've been to have a show a couple of times. They would really yeah, it's very stressful. It's special. It's stressful for Jack guys. It's a very that lake is very stressful for chubby people. It's just like you're looking at all those boats and all those fucking Arizona hard bodies and you just like God, I'm just I want to take my shirt off so bad, but I can't you know what? I mean? I do. I'm actually going to have us who next weekend. Just me and my wife it's going to be the boss lamest trip to Havasu ever. I mean don't tell my wife that but cuz usually it's like, oh we go with a bunch of people or you should go with a bunch of people. I don't know what the tradition is, but it's just me and her and then it's dead. To rent a boat. It's more expensive for just two people than if you had six or something like that. What what you going to rent the boat the houseboat? No, no, not a houseboat, but we're going to we wanted to go camping but then all the campsites are just booked until 2022. So right. All right, I guess we'll just do a hotel and so we're going to stay at hotel, but then rent some boats jet skis and stuff. So during the day we can go out and see the water and I've been trying to lose some way but that hasn't been working by trying. I mean, I've been saying I need to lose some weight off as I'm shoving chocolate cake in my mouth. So it has a finish it dude. What are you talking about? It's it's a filter. I've got the like Halo light on so I look back to be fat. Well, I used to be a little chubbier. Yeah. Yeah. I did. You look finish it, dude. No, thank you. Thank you. I'm just going to take that recording of you saying that and then we're that with me to Havasu. Yeah, I mean it was a compliment but it was it was more of a fuck you off. You know, I won't take that part. I'll just take the last Hey Stephen here. Have you ever thought about making a podcast? It may seem complicated, but Ancor makes it easy. Let me explain it's free. That means you don't have to spend any of your hard-earned cheddar to get your voice out to the world. It's easy. There are creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast from your phone or computer anchor will also distribute your podcast for you. So it could be her not Spotify Apple podcasts and so much more you can also make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. So what are you waiting for download the free anchor app or go to Anchor FM to get started? So what is this podcast do what what is it about? So we're going home. Into the meat of it and we give advice to questions that are give that are sent to me by fans and we're going to try and answer these questions. They're just silly questions from all across the net and so I was going to ask are you a good advice giver Bobby or course? I am. Yeah. I didn't expect any different answer for fuk. Yeah, give great advice. My advice is probably off the exact advice you would take. Oh, that's beautiful. It's it's on the money. I you probably pay me for this advice. That's right. I guess should definitely pick and and you know what? I was going to say, you know people supporting you through your shows and Phoenix. I'm going to have a link to the show notes there. Also, you've just been up in it up in the ante on your podcasts on you know, what dude and the cult and cult show and if you go to patreon.com Robert Kelly, you can support your very own Robert. Yes me and me and Mike Calta. Who is the number one morning guy in radio in Florida with dog. Show 4 days a week, it's fucking great. And of course, I do my why you know what dude which is, you know, one of the longest running comic podcasts out there and then if you go to my paycheck, I got a ton of sugar Palm live from the shed. I do show I did interview shows and just a ton of fucking people. We're going to set up we're going to be setting up some more of those shows and there's just a ton of shit up there. Sorry, and I saw bless, you know, and I saw to that you had a show. Fuck. Where was it last weekend? And you brought you in Houston and you brought your mom cast set up. So your your mobile you're able to do the same. I'm a fucking big tech nerd dude. I got all the gadgets. I mean, you can tell you're probably bummed out because you look like you were a little nerdy 2 a.m. To check equipment and you have the whole background you have little little sound squares and in most scenarios when you do the show, you look like a fucking million bucks, but now. I came on you'll looking at my setup and you go and fuck. He looks great. No, no the opposite you are like the robin to my Batman in this episode because huge look at look at my background, dude. I mean look at me. I mean my I look like CNN, you look like you're doing an unboxing video. Well, actually we've got here some hot pants that we're going by know, but we know but you know what? I think it looks good because usually have people that are like on their phones. They don't even have headphones on you looking you're looking so good. Let's take it to like you look like a snack cuz together were the meal that the listeners I would be the meal. My presentation is magical your presentation. It's nice bath. Okay, I'll take very good. I will say it's better than most I would get rid of that hot light over on that side is very hot that white window life. I mean, I would yeah, I would do something with that. I was just very hot. Okay, it's very hot. Yeah, and then they it's a little better now, I would throw a little back light by some back lights to shoot up on the back over there. See that wrong. And I got a purple another purple and maybe it's a little purple just over there. It's called an accent light. It pops you off the back just going to add a little get that beautiful hair a little light coming off that hair. It's going to Define you from the wall. It's going to add Dimension. So it's going to put you off of that wall. That's what I would do right there. But that's just me. I mean and I have a little Boca going on because the lens I'm using so the background is a little blurry so I popped up even more but there you go. God Just a Little Help from the I would be the probably the mail of this you'd be the appetizer. Maybe the broccoli. I might be the broccoli the vegetables. I'm good for you but not everybody likes me. You're like the fucking steak of this whole thing. This this is just amazing. God. Damn it is I can't even argue. It's so good. And you know what you thought well, this is totally off topic. But as I've been doing research and seeing all the podcasts and I usually listen but I've been watching your YouTube videos. I do you just I think the look I know it's simple song. Like shaved head shaved face glasses. It's just so put together then. It's like the meal that I would want to eat instead of me where I've got a hair here a hair there my sound panels. They're not even fucking they look like they're slanted. I like to set you just gotta shoot some light off of there. Dude. You're going to get a little color go you get a pop you off there man. You know what? I mean? You gotta get you off there. You gotta you gotta heat you up a little bit. I mean accent writes. Yeah, and and then what are you what camera you use it? I just my Mac camera. That's your Mac camera. Yeah, it looks good. I mean that looks great format. Camera. Oh, thank you. All right. Thank you. All right, first off. We before we get into questions. We like to censor ourselves by we I mean I've used in those hands off you look at you like a wizard you like a you like you love these you took like a community college course on speaking and you need to use your hands if we can just all come together wage. And have Synergy that means the world can rise up. Okay, go ahead. I was a teacher and I was an Italian teacher on top of that. So hopefully it down a multi-band me off Bravo Roberto partly Italian. Okay. All right. Well, we're going we're going to go to the inspirational quote where it's going to help fuel us to answer these questions perfectly. So before back into my inspirational quote Bobby, I wanted to ask you if you have any inspirational quotes that you live by yes. I always My thing is the Serenity Prayer is my main thing that I say the wisdom the courage to know the difference the serenity those three things. You gotta let it go. You gotta learn to let shit go immediately. That's the one thing I say to be wage. The short version is fukkit. Just fuck it. You know what? I mean? That person's a gift fukkit. She's being a pocket the plane just got fukkit wage. I mean the opener wants to sell pocket the middle of wants to pocket. That's Club want you to fuck it. Just fuck it. Okay, fuk it. That's one thing. Yes. That's like the the uplifting badass Nike slogan just pocket socket. Yes wage rates log of a sneakers. I was like, I was like patrice's quote was what's good for me is good. You know, I mean, that was a good one. And so when you wonder why would they do that? What's good for them is good, man, just and then keep it moving. Keep them moving to good one to keep it moving. That's pretty good. Keep that shit over. Yeah. There you go. Well, thank you for providing me a cornucopia of beautiful quotes. It's almost Thanksgiving. There we go. It's very timely beautiful. Now. I've got a quote that this is actually not by a person. This is by a robot and it's called inspirobot. And so does that uses a high to generate or take some of the wisest words known to man and then just mash them together for an inspirational quote? All right. Let's hear it. This week Inspire about says science is Fate's way of saying I am drunk that's screaming anything to you know, it doesn't science is Fate's way of saying, you know, it doesn't and if I was near the robot, I fucking unplug it and I would hot piss on it that really bothers me that one just boiling. Science is what is it again? Say it again. Maybe I didn't again, I'm dumb. No, no, no, no only one. This is the only 1% Okay science can say it again science is maybe I should do it in the robot accent. Yeah, dude in the science is Fate's way of saying I am drunk. Yeah better that way the way you said it off is very Italian teacher way. Hahaha science. Yeah, I don't phase me. I know he's trying to be funny. Fuck him. He's an asshole. I would give that gift back. So a robot that gives inspirational quotes. That's good something with no emotions had never felt anything trying to push it together to make people happy. How about this go to a meeting house? That meaning gets sober you fucking piece of shit. I was thinking, you know, I was thinking about this as you were saying it sucks is Fate's way of saying I am drunk maybe fate somehow. Sometimes you look back at things and you're like this shouldn't have turned out the way that it did and so you're you you're thinking pragmatic in your thinking with science and then you think back and you're like wow fate was a real drunk bastard and it just somehow things worked out. I have a better one. All right, man, makes plans and God laughs. This is why you're the the Prime Steak and I'm the fucken diet coke man makes plans and God laughs wage. That and if you're one of those I don't believe in God cuz you're a fucking piece of shit and you have no God in your life. Cuz your garbage just say the universe if that's what you have to say wage and if there's crystals cuz I know you're out in Arizona and a lot of people even say thank you may change to whatever God you want above. Your God is in the crystals. That's what we believe here. I know I believe that too. I believe the crystals. Yeah. I'm by the crystals. I mean the girls at Lake Havasu named crystal. That's that's what I believe nice. All right. Well moving on we're going to page questions. Let's go. Let's do it. We've got our first questions from Reddit found by her fan Tracy. Thank you Tracy. What would be the best way to promote my dirty fanfiction? I have been pouring my heart and soul my obscene My Little Pony fanfiction, but I'm consistently disappointed by the lack of feedback on my writing possible. I would have more if more people read it in short. What do you think would be an effective way to promote such a dog? Very feet sincerely enough horsing around is it dirty? Did she seems very it's obscene? Yeah, it's dirty My Little Pony it is it. Yeah, you want people to go read she wants us to read stuff. She does. Yeah. She sent a sample to do you want me to open it up? You know, of course I did but here's what I would suggest. You have to you have to get a photo done of you shirtless. And make that your make that you make that your little icon on all of your don't show your boobs. I'm just saying cleavage not even a face half your face and just from here and then make that your your image on Twitter and that and then go and like a bunch of fucking people off the hey, I got some cool stuff you want to read it and they'll see how many times have you gone into your messages and seeing some kind of hot girl, you know who's at and you find out it's not even a real person, but you still fucking expecting them in your life too many if exactly so, I would say yeah, I would say show you a cleavage. That's pretty good. I would say can I do one better? Maybe? Yes you let's see show your dick. How did you know that? I'm sorry? No, I was just going to say you show your cleavage, but then on the bottom you show the bottom to wage. But it's horse legs. So that way perfect you're giving your being unique cuz you're showing the hotness here with the Mystique of the horse pony. Yeah, the pony pony Pub. I would say Pony not horse. That's my little pony my little horse. My little horse is a I think a guy died from that one. So I think there's a video of that page band. No one no one's ever died from fucking a pony. I believe that's a fact. So that's what I would say. I would say you have to visually capture us off for us. Nobody wants to read anymore. Everything is visual people learn how to do shit. I don't read a book on a fix a pipe I go to a YouTube page and watch it at home. So when I'm going to read seed my lawn, I'm not going to go read a book on seeding grass. I'm going to go watch a douchebag for 20 minutes on YouTube. I'm visual so you have to make it visual to get off. Read it you understand. There you go. That's good. That's good or audio in terms of audio books. I hear those are on the rise now so you can repeat if you don't have a sexy voice don't bother off cuz if you have some so then the pounding went over and grabbed his penis and no we don't want that. You know, Tony's throbbing member when deep inside. Okay, you sure you don't want you don't want that. You don't want that. But if it's a sexy voice, you know, the ponies shaft went in and out of the darkness of my own home and then ice cream and squirrels red and tinkled ever-so-slightly from the trees on us and it cooled this down in the midsummer. He took like that. I don't know. I'm just I'm just helping drive for a spit ball. I mean that was pretty poetic. I'm hard. So I don't know argue been hard the whole time. I believe you have no pants on and you end of this month. Cast is not even real you're probably some you're a girl that I dated in high school that transitioned you been trying to get back with me for years. I haven't even transition. I'm just deepening. My voice is always flat chested, but Bobby, how can you not remember me? What the fuck? It's cuz the accent lighting isn't it? You don't remember me your hands do this whole thing you're doing it did bring back some flashbacks off. Excellent. All right moving on as Patrice O'Neal or Inspire bot or whoever said, I think he said nothing that's not moving on down. Okay, I've got our next question. It is a 20 anniversary. I need help with gift ideas for my husband, please my husband and my eight year wedding anniversary is coming up and we're stuck to the traditional anniversary gifts thus far. Well this year is bronze and I have no F included to get him. He's an IT nerd loves PC games and Marvel movies. He's a father to two beautiful daughters any advice. I'm so sorry. Stuck sincerely present tense. It's bronze bronze at first of all, I don't believe in this whole life. Is it this year because that's who the fuck said that who made up every year is something I believe it was. Yeah, I believe it was probably a married couple that was not having sex anymore. And so one of them was so bored. They were like, well, this should be something we could celebrate and then so they just said, okay your one cotton or two paper clips your three bronze and so on and so forth. And so your emails bronze by the way. Well, you're three and your rate actually you fact-check me off is that I'm not fat. This is Joshua. I'm a fat check yet, but I've never said that before what to do. She thing to say, but fact-checking somebody with that type of hair off. Here is too beautiful to fact-check. Is it because you think I'm right or you think I'm wrong? I just his hair like I'm right here or is it like a it's it's very ghosthunter e sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't get that means I would listen here's the deal and I'm going to tell everyone in this place. Okay forget about your bronze and you would and you dirt and all that horseshit. You want to give your husband something give him a day away from you in the girls. Give him a day to go out go with his friends smoke a cigar have a meal where he doesn't have to do push it. Just give them the day. That's all we want will be with you every you want to give me some give me the day just today where I don't have to fucking wake up and take something out. And fix something and answer a question and drop somebody off and pick them up and give advice and fucking big that just one day of just don't talk to me. Don't look at me. And just bring me shit ask me my favorite meal and make it for me have my fucking lip favorite lunch until the daughters. Look. I know he loves his daughter you're going to go but he I love my kid, but let me tell you something. If you gave me a day where I didn't have to fucking deal with people, you know, you do take the girls and go somewhere leave em in the house from 6 in the morning until fucking 10 at night just go go somewhere. I'll let him know the day and I will he loves spending time. I know I know you think that I know he loves you. I know he loves the kids. I know leave trust me leaves him alone for one day. I agree with that and I think this one day of maybe misery for you thinking. Oh, it doesn't love me. It's going to turn it 300 off. 64 days big Roi of great great days with hubby. Yes, and when you come back at night blown. And not even doing a blonde just get my hand job guys don't want blowjobs later in life. We want a handjob. Give us a hand job. Let me stay on my iPad and you give me a hand job. And then from there you go. I'm done. We're done that's in doubt that that's what I do forget about bronzed. Just a game. I love that going to handle I think and the hand job to finish it off. I mean, maybe maybe like Z Astic beginning and end to yeah the beginning you don't do it. Don't unenthusiastically do it do it. Yeah, no size like and put a towel over his stomach. So it does have to you know, they don't want to clean up. Yeah. Yeah, beautiful. You watch just you know, maybe have some lighting to get some accent lights. So it really that dick. No no, no, no, no, no lighting know do it in the complete darkness know he doesn't want to look at you want to see what he wants to close his eyes and just whatever he wants tapping. Let him have it. Nobody wants to look down to their wife and mother of your kids jerking you off in fucking purple accent lights, but You know what though? But if you do, if you do happen to open your eyes, you'd want to see a nice Monumental thing instead of like this dimly lit. Like I smoked Nick. There's nothing sexier than just walk in darkness getting jerked off and darkness. You understand me. I'm doing the my pony stuff again. I'm sorry. Go ahead. What's the next question? All right, we've got the last question. The last question is it's from Reddit found by our fan Liz. Thank you. Liz says my boyfriend Won't Suck my toes like at all like not even one suck. Can he actually love me if he doesn't want to suck them off sincerely toejam. Yeah. Listen, weirdo. Yes. Okay. Nobody wants to suck feet. That's a fucking have you ever had is a listen? No, I'm not putting your dirty tow in my mouth. Okay, if you ever looked at a foot, it's fucking they're never good-looking the pinky toe is always fun pack up on women cuz they have to wear those skinny little fucking shoes. It's like urine. I have a side or it's there's a little bunion on it. It's like no Get a new fetish. All right, I'd rather eat a girl's armpit out like a vagina than put a foot in my mouth. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, if we're thinking of stink level, I would say the armpit is wasting here than at. Oh no way. No way. There's a toenail down their stuff is underneath there. I mean what the fuk? I didn't think of it. It's just if you if he doesn't you should marry him. I'm not marrying the girl that took insects might. Oh, I'm not marrying the girl that eats my asshole. I'm Marrying the girl that wants to fucking that make love and fuck and you do the toe sucking with somebody else. Yeah, go find a fucking weirdo. You know, it's some Comic Con convention like Stow sucking have him do it. Here's a problem with that because once you once he breaks, Seal, where are you going to go from there? What if he has a fucked-up fetish that he likes what if he likes to knuckles in his but every time he comes you're going to do that. I like to tone opening up a page. Yeah. What if you let you tell those in his butt and then he sucks your toes. What are the kids really weird? Yeah. Oh, how about this? Go to Yogurt learn to suck your own toes. Listen. It depends on who she is and it depends, you know, I mean, I don't know. It depends I guess I don't see your foot. Yeah. Yeah, I would depend on the foot. She'd have to have shattered and I get the judges you if your foots hot, you don't tell me my I got pretty feet. I had a lot of girls say my feet are pretty and they look like fucking Talons. Oh gosh. I can't remember any of my ex's feet. I don't like it's the last thing that I usually look at it. Did I have two dead toenails? Okay, I mean dead. They look like Frito corn chips. Once you come over here and suck my toes just so into it. Do they taste like Frito corn chips. They probably do very they probably some type of cheese. Well took my tone of this stuff underneath it. It's gross if I can. Yeah. Well you showered in New York Sports Club and not get fucking toe fungus. Excellent. Well, that's a beautiful song to end on we've reached the end of our show Bobby. Thank you so much for joining us. Yes, where can chart was I too? I feel like I was too mean for the show. What do you mean to me aggressive aggressive? No. No. I know. I feel like you weren't aggressive enough. I was expecting a third fucking piece of shit. Relax the fucking silly shirt off. I'm kidding. I'm sorry. I actually I was like what shirt would Bobby make fun of the most and I love that shirt. Actually, I think it's fantastic. Oh, thank you for ideal job. Rest, I don't like but what's in the shirt is bothering me the monstrosity with golden locks in the shirt. That doesn't suck your Puritan Colonius fingers just Exactly what the Indians saw when you were handing the blankets here. We're going to promise we'll take care of you. He said this ghost hands off one color from the tip to the fucken Elbow. I'm kidding. I'm sorry. Look at you got out of me this weekend. Yes at the Tempe Improv a very excited. I really love Tempe Improv has always taken care of me. I'm very excited. I love both those clubs and you know all the clubs you get so many comedy clubs in Arizona man, very lucky to have all the comedy run through there the way you do and I'm glad that people are coming back. So I hope hope they come out Thursday Friday Saturday. And then I'm back Sunday. I'm first thing smoking back to New York. So nice nice and I'll have a link to the show notes there. As I said, I'll be in Lake Havasu Friday, but I will be there Thursday to laugh and oh good. I'll say hi to you after the show. Oh, nice nice and I'll bring one of my favorite shirts. You can oh, please. Oh, please please bring that fucking media a shirt from H&M was fucking some type of lightning bolt on it. Where do you get your shirts H&M? Where did you say I got the express off not express Express that's been around Burlington Coat Factory. That's where I go. Oh, well, I like that. Okay 12 bucks valve box. Nice. I like Martin good for you. I feel like I did the the button but I feel like there's little too much hair. So maybe I should like button it up now leave it down when I'm done more maybe yeah. Yeah, I do that. I gotta piss off. I I'm sucked my toes and ride me like a pony. I will have fun with your from your chicken you Thursday night. All right, sounds good. Thank you so much Bobby for doing this. This was a real treat for me. So you got it, buddy. Have a great day. All right, man. All right. Thanks. You too, man later, bye-bye.

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TRU information - Comedians

"Remember the views and opinions expressed by this show or any other show TV radio, and it's strictly those of Said and vigils, and do not reflect those dvd of staff, nor the Steph dysfunctional veterans. We're brothers. For singing. Have Certain Rules I. Buy my first rule. I don't believe anything. The government tells me. We. All the host of evident we'll have to pause and think he'll live great. Three of we didn't land on Plymouth Rock. was landed on. You're listening to true information with Mark Davis an grown as man. Hey everybody and welcome to another edition of true information. I am your host Mark Davis. And I am your house while you're yelling? I'm not. This is hot, talk show. Grown man getting it done. Take mom about me. She's already listening. Okay, so with that million grown man have been having an a friendly debate. We'll sail. I did a friendly debate. Oh, man, yeah, on Who's the best serve? No now wouldn't even that you don't want to say. WHO's the best? No I'm not going to say who I'm just saying the torch passing the reason for a certain moves within the comedic community. Saying Okay My vote my vote. On top three tap three of all time right now. Right now all right now. Who Got Dave Chapelle? Dave Hale okay. Got Mda Seville. Okay. That's me, so that's me. You have forgotten about Chris Rock. I have not forgotten about Chris Rock. Bigger. Than Chris Rock, I'm sorry, Japan. US. Chris Rock is day is I. Do not believe Chris Rock is better today. Pills, said the top three. I, said what I said. Oh, so that would be Dave Chapelle for me. Okay Okay Chris. Rock Okay Yes rock. Okay, Hey Kevin, Hart. Oh i. It's funny. I mean. You. Smoke Everhart. How about that does that make it a little bit better? I mean for for reciprocity I'm just saying like Kevin Hart. he's not as funny as To Me Savell, it never has been. Heart pace a nice picture, he he, he draws in a nice story. It's not a it's not a. it's not a thought. Story is not like Oh shit. That just made me think it's not. It's not extra. Pair will make you think it's not overly complex. Story is not. Only complex. They just like in this in this in this in this in that in about the way. Left turn, but here I am again like I it it all fits in and he he makes you. Laugh wanted but Kevin. Hart will tell you a story in a story and a story in for me I. Always like I. I can't tell the exact punchline, but I know the secrets of Kevin Hart so he'll explain something. Explain it and then move forward a little bit and explain a little bit more and then yeah. And then the punchline it's. Okay, so you still forgetting about Chris Rock Doe. Chris explained stuff funny yes hawks. This is. Funny Hilarious like ask him how to ask him to explain the process in which we make bread like it will be funny, not because it's a funny action, but because Chris Rock is narrating it can I get. I get real that'd be. That'd be five dollars now. How much one one? How `bout one. At the he made you believe he was a crack Airbag I love Chris Rock. He did he did I think. You know going off. We were talking. On the break other bit about I wanted. I would like to see. Another large scale movie. Like Harlem Nights. Harlem nights at Holloway has some big big hard hitters. In like Eddie. Murphy did that with a lot of his movies at Eddie. Murphy did with Harlem. He did that with a coming to America he did that he that will slightly smaller scale when he did Boomerang Yup moorhead. Though Boomerang still had a lot of names. Further Oh. Rush get was. It was expensive and I like to see that because I want to see the come up. You know what I'm saying. I want to see the cup. I want to see a movie. This just go back a little bit. You had a the cast listing of Harlem Nights. I Community God, freaky Richard Pryor. Eddie Murphy. Redd Foxx robin hair. Was There Oh my God? I'm so sad. I'm so I'm so mad. He died so early man. I mean come on like everybody. Come on out. My kids watch kids. They love He. Pre can't freaking della reese. Well. Touched by nature, but yeah, she's a good. And I can't remember his real name, but Tommy strong from Martin. Jasmine guy. Arsenio Hall. Who was the boxer? The all the one who will stunning? Yeah, he look. He kept he he he. I'm a I'M A put A. Bad Don't take it personally if. He's. That movie was hilarious. I mean he shot a pinkie toe off like who could forget that scene? No one can forget that seeing what see when he's will soon automatic rifle. That nooitgedacht keeps you in the pistol. Bail. Stuffed up little. I gotTA. Go Watch the movie now Jack Jenkins that's his name. That Jenkins was the characters name. Free Can. Come to America's. Why one of my favorite movie of all time do like I. Love America, Yeah Yeah coming to America. And that! James Earl Jones like how? Mu Foster. James Earl Jones and the queen and I feel bad that I cannot. CanNot remember her name where move Fossa and the Queen again nobody nobody chose them right in lion king. Yeah, because they chose them because they were on the Broadway version of Lion King. You know. I read that somewhere and I'm trying I'm trying to get it right. They chose dose to for Lion King because of their pairing incumbent to America. While something like that. It's vice versa one or the other. The? Just just. because. They're perfect. Everything was perfect it was it was great so like saying in that and you were saying over the break that. That movie to you was like the passing of the torch. Yeah, from Richmond to Murphy. Right Richard Pryor to Eddie Murphy. What today looks like that to you? If they were to remake the movie. Or what do I see that I don't see it happening today in anyone I, don't see any of the older comedians taking and sheltering some of the older comedians Rickey Smiley. Trust you know if you look at the cast of and now I guess you could say that. That's like saying you know, but if it was on a movie scale. It would be something with Eddie Murphy and Kevin Hart the two most marketable comedians right now. I mean Richard Pryor was. The most marketable could be comedian back in the seventies. Think about it. He had a ton of movies. You know and then what happened Eddie? Murphy had a ton of movie than eighties. What would Beverly Hills Cop. That was not a series that was a trilogy. I think yeah, and he had what was the one he had had to save the Golden. Child or the Golden Golden Boy Yeah Golden Child you know. He had a lot of movies that he did so, and then he jumped on Shrek. Acted after he was in between Dr Doolittle. He jumped on Shrek. But now you need to have a passing of the torch movies. Something similar to Harlem nights so that Eddie Murphy can patch. The unlit thrown a the torch to Kevin Hart. The most marketable comedian. In the industry right now. Now is Kevin Hart really the most marketable comedian. Yes, tell me one more marketable in Kevin. Hart more marketable than Kevin Hart. Yes, and is a comedian. Yes, give me one. Nick, cannon. I. Kid and movies here we go up to look offi single one of Nick Cannon's. Until, you okay, so when I was growing up. I used to be a huge nickelodeon fan. You know what I'm saying. And Of with hated Nick Cannon when had can show off hated him for a long time. Know, and so. Anything he does I'll I'll gravitate and look at it. You know what I'm saying like drumline drumline I thought was a good movie and the reason. I thought it was a good movie because I played the drums, and that was only because I was related to it. Okay, you understand. But things, listeners, listeners, that's. Information with no e Your you information at Twenty, twenty at Djamil Dot, com. Please drag the hell out of marquee for that last date continues. I gave a reasoning behind why I liked drumline. So you cannot bash me for liking what I know you. You mean you mean we should not bash you. Leap difference. We should not bash you okay so. Dane can you got my whole name? Well I don't know if you you you okay, I can say because I bought to say the rock. Johnson, but he's listed as an entertainer and not a comedian. He's just funny. Yeah, so yes, bunny moments. You also can't say the rock because he's normally paired with guess who and a comedian movie Kevin Hart. Think about all of the comedian moves that he's pretty much now. You just throw that out there. I'm just GONNA. Say it. What was the one? He played the COP, the undercover cop or whatever and was helping Kevin Hart. was. Yeah the rotten, and then, and then what was the newest one at Germany one into you know? I don't think I don't like the way they did to like I. don't even think I wanna see you central intelligence fast and the furious present Hobson Shaw I know what wait wait no, because that doesn't. But. That's the movie they've done together. They didn't do fast and furious. You're the hop in Shaw one Kevin Heart was not in fact, was he yes? Oh. They've been informed together. Jumanji one and two Central Intelligence and fast and furious hops in Shaw. I okay. Well let's see. Let's see what Kevin Hart played in this crap. Kevin via in? was rivals Gerhard make unaccredited appearances. Agents victim lock an Air Marshal, Dick. Dick So. Then the movie, but not for you know on credit apart, but he was in the movie so accounts. Okay so yeah. I believe that Eddie Murphy would have to do a movie. Impasse the proverbial torch to Kevin Hart. Because Kevin Hart is the most marketable comedian out there. Yes. Yes yes, yes. Okay. Not! Tell me tell me okay, since since you went and you you know. Throughout that you have the top three. So, okay, if you have to go to a party right and you ought to provide the entertainment. Who are you putting on first? Between whom? Between Your top three? Dave Chapelle. whoever you said your top. Anybody anybody any. Day Chapelle days to pill okay. Three any three COMEDIANS. Are we doing alive or not? To. Be Dead To. All Man, if anyone dead folks to God bless him. Oh, who's putting on I or the main act? What are you want? Let's go with the main at the end maniac. Okay Okay to light up to to get it. Get kind of going to kind of route up. I Want A. I want to George Carlin for my. My beginning nowadays, he might get them right in Luton nowadays. But you know what he's going to get that energy going in there and I like that energy. I like I. Like his energy his energy, so I would do a George Carlin as I. Let's see. Need somebody a slightly abusive? I would like to get a deal hugely. As next. He. What I don't like. Comedy that much I mean. When. He was actually doing comedy and not doing. A social injustice or that type of thing with some funding init- because he went. Like at The kings of comedy he went straight from kings of comedy to new SORTA Kinda commentator That was angry all the damn time like. His funny left so I. You know it's kind of bad that way, but in his in his prime I like you know he would just talk shit about people. Sometimes, it was funny to me, so I will do George Carlin next up. Is D.L Hughley? And For the finale. IS A. Round not a round table discussion I don't Wanna use that, but a duet discussion of. Eddie Murphy. Talking about Eddie Murphy and Dave Chapelle talking about Charlie, Murphy. Oh Man Okay so you want to know what you want to have one I. Guess go ahead. So. I would have this personal. Don't get mad at me, but he is hilarious. Sinbad. Okay yeah, he's He. He is what Bill Cosby wanted comedy to be yeah. So he was clean. He didn't curse. He didn't talk about a whole bunch of rude nasty stuff like you know. My favorites Eddie Murphy. Day Spill Richard Pryor. Redd Foxx Robin Harris. He didn't do all that you know he. He was clean. He was good, so I'm doing a four person sent here, right? Yeah! Okay, go ahead now. I got the clean comedy out the way. So now so now I'm going to use Patricia Neal. Patrice on, hold on I gotTa look that up continue if you ain't never seen Patrice O'Neal, he is hilarious. His stand up. Now Okay wants to office. In in the in the warehouse you got all. He's the second guy. The Second Big Black Guy Sea Monster Yep. Okay A. The he died. He did why some Patrice O'Neal. What some Patrice Oh now you're going to be all over laughing. Okay? Okay I actually now. My. My third one is GONNA probably. Blow your mind, but I think she is hilarious. One to Sykes. I'll take. WanNa sites wanted to say I'll take one. And a half Chris Rock because I think Chris Rock is just fucking funny dude on the planet. Okay but I'm telling you look Patrice O'Neal accent. Yeah, what some of his standup? Okay, and you're going to be like you're right. He is hilarious. When they when he was got Nagel on. The office like Sea Monster. Bet You want to see my. Don't you want to swim? I'll tell you one time I saw him on a comedy show. He had a pen and pad outright, so he tells the joke he looked at Otis. He'll stressed out. House like they don't I don't understand the complexities of comedy. If they don't find hilarious, you know. A. Literally using y'all. The little small shanty to test out jokes, yeah! It happens man. I mean I so. You'll be on. instagram stuff right, Okay, instagram facebook. SNAPCHAT or that? Who are some of your heart hitting comedians on there? You know what I'm GonNa. Tell you this right here. Okay so I. I normally do a lot of do social media style is going to be churches stuff. Because you make fun of the Church. That's what they do. You know they'll take a video of them like shouting or something right and make it funny. Or they'll say this type of black This is how your type acquire members stuff like that. So Kevin Stage well neither party state when he was a part of the playmakers, his brothers I I started. Follow him way back when okay stage now I really can't do them because he tries to be to. Commercial because you know he got. He got these big commercials now he makes he's making the big bucks now. So I understand what his direction is going, but it's not like. The stuff he's doing. It's not that funny to me. So Kevin Sages wanted I watch a lot of country. Wayne I watch him lot to country, Wayne. And I probably shouldn't watch country Wayne as much as I do, but he is hilarious to me, too, and what's the other one Thank you. What is his name? He does all of the little prank videos? Yeah. He's like okay, so what happened is he had one where he? Came in his girlfriend cheating on him, and so it's like it's all a bit, you know. But what is his name? You tell me you're looking at him. Real quick, okay. So I agree with Kevin, stage. Ha- Davis up holiday was good. Oh you, you tribute tripping. Go Art. I wonder why he beyond. Prison rape so much, but It's still funny him and hit him, and his quote Unquote Daddy, which is just him and some old glasses, but as funny Tony Baker Tony Baker is hilarious Tony. Baker would the it he paps. Oh Man, at night, his cat midnight and the other one I. Don't remember right now. Unfortunately, we've been having a fight each other. Most most diabolical rude. You know what screw us, I. Just I WANNA. Give them away, people. We're GONNA need another cat soon like. God Dang Nude and Oh when he came out with Cram. Cram Cram Cram. Why is this so funny? Funny Marco. Who Funny Marco I gotTa Look Look Funny Marco is just Bill Fu ny. Ma Rico Funding Marco. And Christie Show! But she do a lot of churches stuff too, so but she. Still still on Tony, Baker Scam. Bad didn't lead He. Oh, my God! Don't voiceovers man the voiceover funny, and when he just makes like right now he's using talk and he'll have a picture and he'll pop up in front of the picture and I remember he was, he did one on. Okay, so it was a baby protesting with her parents, and it was so cute, because they let the baby just draw on the piece of cardboard and this just scribbles. There is no coherent written word on that thing whatsoever. And Tony bickers like you know what baby I agree wholeheartedly with you. One hundred percent everything that that baby just said on that on that piece of cardboard is what America needs to stand for Nelson. You serious just alario she funny to. Jess just Larry. Thinks. He's in trouble right now on. Something, she might have said some stupid. She is funny though. She she's Funnier Sale Who else the? What's the girl getting? Her Wig snatched all the time. Oh, 'cause, 'cause, I know her. I know her Nicole Nicole TV. That's her. Yeah the little skinny girl! She Real Skinny Look Damn Roach. But. She always running around getting do do she does. Oh I have her no sheep. Tried to flat out on the Becker Hair. She. Does crazy stuff do, but you know? She do stuff that kids nowadays do. Which is why he so famous. You know and so I mean that makes it a content on that basis of instagram. You got fifteen forty five seconds of keeps his attention. You know do a quick little video stats at all, and so on. I think she was on Busey's live, so if people don't know Busey of the rapper and Low Busey Suzano Busey's like if he was doing this thing where he was planning. Song is an paying. Girls cast happening for shaking their booty and stuff on his law. He was cash stepping some torquing Yep Yep so I guess she got on. She was talking she do it. It's crazy so soon in a funny way. Just like Tina off of a Bob's Burger. Oh, my, God yeah do I'm telling you she. She's funny. Some of the stuff she does is really funny. Do Is Kinda stupid and you wonder why they're doing it, but. Whatever. EITHER WAY GO! That has been our a comedian special I guess we can call it that. Wasn't done. Yeah, OH, well! Welcome back to our comedian special. King, batch? King backs. Yeah, King, be ach never heard of him as not a fault. He is funny though. What's the shoot? Liquid. Do He's while he is hilarious. Yeah, he! He was Alana's a couple of times. He has his own like he does tiktok. He does instagram look up liquid J. Liquid J. Liquid J.. Trust me when I say look up liquid J. I forgot the actual actor's name he's he's like he's like a skit comedian and there's actually a very large group of them. In. They look different everything. I've seen him. Look Different, yeah! He dresses up. He dresses up like liquid J.. The comedian dress up like liquid. J S A character. Go check that out and then He also dresses up like dead pool. I doubt that was a dope. That was dope His name is black. My Bad SPLAT. SP L. A. C., k. and he's funny as hell to so like. I see the up and coming. You got a lot of people like on wall now. That guy guided big like Emmanuel Lewis his brother I think I think he'd rather than an aunt and I can't remember you man you will. Louis. archetype day. Is Not I got digging any manual Lewis Hudson? I'm tripping. Brandon, t Jackson with the cast member while they just doing. I guess I just samples name that was on the show once or twice pretty much. So now Emmanuel Lewis Cause. He's the short individual Emmanuel Hudson. Cortez macklin his. He Stayed The my neighborhood. Cortez macklin. Yeah, he's on while out. Cortes Mac. Come on, showed a picture. Okay I know. Who was? It can't think he's so funny. I'm like what do stupid. We see how you don't like him then. As okay, that's the pair but no a Lotta. These like what was the do. That's what he looks like a Roach on O'hare Oh. The boy from Atlanta I can't remember right now. Yeah. Okay, he talks just like he's from Swat southwest, Atlanta now that's how he talks. That's how he acts. That's how boys act down there all right. So you got? People who have been on a while now. Tim. Shan Tarago Su. The he's usually on their. He's small, Asian Guy and he usually makes Asian jokes and then takes the agent you know was finding. People don't realize that win. While now I came out there. Were you the mostly Mad TV cast members? Yeah. They were really where they had Kevin Hart Corey. Holcomb Cat Williams. No this is went ahead. Aries, spears and who played the woman who play Whitney whoopie. Goldberg mean. Whitney Houston Oh yeah, they had a whole bunch of the Reid. Hoffman yeah had a whole bunch of the of the Catholic numbers cast members from Mad TV. Yeah, back that show. Great. You have connections you do it. You know you the behavior. This was supposed to be short. Show it was. What do we whatever we at now? Around twenty seven minutes live. Cut it off. 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Inside (Directed by Bo Burnham) - Everything All of the Time

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59:16 min | 4 months ago

Inside (Directed by Bo Burnham) - Everything All of the Time

"This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when your printer is running low and sends new cartridges before you run out so you never have to think about inc for details visit hp dot com slash instant inc spotify conditions apply. What is going down everybody. Welcome show me the meaning. Wisecracks movie podcast. So i am austin hayden and i am joined by the show me the meaning crew. We have ryan and joining us once again. We have michael burns. Hello friends all right so this week. We're going to do something a little different. Because it's not really a film per se. I mean isn't i guess we can talk about exactly what this thing is. But we're gonna be talking about the new bo. Burnham comedy special. Is it even a comedy special. What is it exactly. We're going to talk about that. And it's basically been tearing the internet's apart from tiktok charities to cultural analysis to think pieces to what was the piece that you were just saying. Michael insiders twenty six things. You may oh The easter eggs and hints. That you missed that. If you understand it you'll then get it. Yeah yeah exactly. So it's been talked about a ton people seem to really love it and then some people have read actually really loathe it so we can kind of figure out what the deal is but basically it is bo burns new comedy special. Just released actually. The last week on net written directed edited shot planned staged production design etc etc all by burnham from within the confines of a tiny little room slash guest house in that you see a little snippet of actually at the end of make happy right. If anyone saw the comedy special make happy the very final end scene is kind of where this picks up and so yes so. We're gonna be talking a little bit about that. So before we delve into it and start tearing it apart. Let's go around and get some first impressions on this immediate reactions. That sort of thing. Let's start with michael. I don't know how many times you've seen this if you've only seen once or if you've seen it a couple of times what was it like the first time you saw. What was it like if you revisited it etc. I'm in the two time club. First time i saw it. I enjoyed it a good amount. I was surprised by some of the i. Guess what you'd call the more like social commentary. He has going on there. But when i've watched it. The first time. I was left feeling a little bit like i like what was going on form wise. I don't know if i loved it. Content wise read a bunch of think pieces and essays watched it again seconds. I actually liked it better. Probably has added more realistic set of expectations. On the second watch i appreciate it within the boundaries that i think burnham i'll use the word suffers sounds kind of negative but within the boundaries he may be suffers from constrained by but i think it's i think it's pretty good but i will say this is something that i enjoyed that i've read a lot of takes on where i also see where some of the critical takes are coming from And while i don't while those takes haven't made me enjoy it less. I think many of them are correct. And i'm sure we get into some of that stuff later cool. Okay what about you ryan. Yeah you said the self. I was thinking Michael i i was really pumped for this. I love the burnham. I think he's one of the great comics. We got if you want to even call them a comic but But and then this. I don't know the first time i watched it. I definitely did not really like it. Unfortunately i was kind of in the camp of thinking. I it didn't make me laugh once i will say i respected it. That's what i want to say off. The bat is that i respect it for what he was going for. But at the same time. I never i little. Yeah like i said never laughed once and then and Respected the form and the editing especially. That's kind of the my main takeaways. That i liked his editing especially going from scene to scene in the hard cuts. You know that you get that kind of gave the whole vibe of this you know one man literally in this claustrophobic nightmare trying to give off this impression of what going like or or what it's like to go through the pandemic which we all just live through so relatable to that extent but yeah like you said the content in the jokes and just kind of the social commentary especially caught me off guard in a way that a i just don't think it was that effective for comedy and then also just as social commentary. I also thought it wasn't that effective either. That was kind of surface level and lame in a weird way like in which was unli- which was an added characteristic for him because he's so kind of in this other stuff and and i don't know if it was just when he was younger but he was just like very anti even saying anything thought heaving says on interviews like i'm not into saying every little thing that i Believe my ideology and eating says in this special. He's like i don't we don't need to say every one of our thoughts and stuff with any has literally a whole you know the thing with the sock puppet which is a million thoughts at once and i guess that is kind of the point is just like you know it's it's the erotic brain space was injured in the year which i respect them putting on a committing to film for all of us to watch but i don't think it worked for me but i worked for a lot of people so fucked me. You know it's okay liked it. Yeah yeah that's what. I thought i'm burnham fan too you know Both michael and i had a hand in helping to put out the wisecracked video that we released on bo burnham a couple years ago and i watched all burnham stuff and i had known who he was but it wasn't until i started to do deep dive that i really started to respect. Okay i get with this. Young dude is doing. there's also a sense in which i was looking at it. I'm like this guy's quite young and it is quite refreshing to see this young. He was twenty five when he released happy. So you know. He's what twenty three twenty two when he's doing like words you know the other ones and it's like god so so i thought there was something interesting to see his growth as an artist right so i had a lot of expectation that this was going to jump off from where make happy left us. Which i thought was a really lovely ending when he does like that conway at the end at the very end he says you know. I hope you're happy. And he walks off the stage. And i felt like okay. This is a this is a young man. With some interesting pressures of celebrity of being a front facing person feeling like some imposter syndrome cetera et cetera et cetera. And i'm like okay. I can relate to that. I'm a middle class white yuppie boy to you know and trying to create content and trying to reach people and connect with people at some level. So it's like i got. I got a lot of that. And so i was really hoping that this would be like the next step forward right and the first time the first time i watched it it actually was a little slow it. It took me a while to get into it. I'd say the first ten or fifteen minutes. I was kind of like okay. Like okay like it's clever. I see his thing but it didn't quite have the same energy and maybe it's because it was just a different format and it took me a minute to get into it. And then i started to really get into it and it was by the time the sex thing song. The sexting segment came on that. I really started to get into it and i was kind of like okay and then i was along for the ride and i think i think it's clever. I think it's witty. It's got all the kind of self awareness and stuff that we are accustomed to expecting from burnham. I thought that there were some clever funny quips. I actually really like the sock puppet. Because so one of one of burnham's biggest comedy influences. Is this absurdist next on win. Who just has like this black sock. Puppet that will like just eat a mars bar on stage for like five minutes. And he's long said in interviews that that's like one of his biggest comedy influences and so i actually really liked that. He just leaned fully into that was like fuck it. I'm just going to do a sock. Puppet thing and but do it in my own way and so i kind of really liked that we can talk more about this on the other side of just giving a brief synopsis here on my second viewing i got really into it from the get-go because i think i got it. What he was doing more. You know. And i think maybe my expectations weren't met the first time through and then maybe similar to what michael was saying the second time through. That was kind of okay. I can actually. I'm kind of fully on board with what he's doing here. So i actually i would say i really like it. I don't i wouldn't say i love it. I don't think it like has changed the game. And i think there's some interesting things we can talk about Especially for someone like myself. And i think also wonder because i didn't really go through a lockdown here in sydney like we had a couple months a few of a bitch so i am so like the idea of like i'm trapped in a room in a want to put a bullet in my head is not quite. I didn't experience that to the same level of. I know when he says the thing about how he wishes he could kill himself for eighteen months yet so many times especially last summer which is like god. Help me die for a year and then back review back. I know. I know so. I feel like i missed. I missed some of it. So i feel like for some people who really felt that that that pain that existential pain then they might have gotten a lot of like comfort in watching this and a lot of like a voice speaking for them so i think there's a lot of really interesting stuff we can talk about but first let's give. I don't even know how i'm gonna do a recap because it's not like i'm gonna talk about the fucking segments or something like that so i'm just going to do a really sort of like brief. This is what the thing is for people who have no clue. And then i'll say. Just watch it. But okay so basically stuck inside a room during the pandemic bo burnham decides. It's time to make another comedy special. After a five year hiatus using his usual stick of self-awareness ironic detachment cultural criticism. Sarcasm and absurd ism burnham addresses themes such as isolation mental health digital media sexting insta culture. Whoa kness and branding celebrity culture. The role of comedy in the world the value of art more generally a marxist sock puppet and a whole lot more. There's really no specific single narrative but there are definitely conceptual through lines that bridge the scattered and somewhat random segments and in the end burnham's hope is that we might get a little bit of a laugh. Have a little bit of a think and get distracted for a little bit of time from wanting to put a bullet in our heads the great summary all right but before we continue we gotta give a shout out to our sponsor story blocks star. Blocks is the complete stock solution providing an unlimited library of over one million royalty free high quality video audio and images through cost effective subscription plans. You can basically get these unlimited downloads of everything in their library by accessing their all access. Plan if you're a creator if you're doing podcasts. If you're doing video don't sacrifice your creative vision. 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So let's start peeling this onion apart a little bit Let's start with michael. Yeah let's bo. Is that what you said. When soon this spo let's Okay let me. Just ask this question. I is this the comedy special that we needed at this time right. Do we need any comedy special this time and isn't that one of the central questions that he asks is that is that like him being aware that an inciteful thing is what we think about that because he just talk about that right like i just gotta do thing the only thing i can do make comedy i wanna leave the world better than how i founded etcetera etcetera to me. The way came to me and different strokes for different folks but it felt very mopey and kind of pretentious to me when it was just like him. You know like sending the camera up. Like what do i do. No one cares about comedy or you know like i'm just a small voice to me just felt like all right. Do we need to see this right now. Like i liked this. Isn't the bo burnham. I love but maybe that's the point in like like we're all going through something. Even burden is right but i don't know man. Yeah risa someone make a comment on beaubourg and being like. I was locked in a room so i had to do this. And they were just like i dunno except rogin just pottery for a yearly. You didn't have to do it. Give other stuff so. But i guess like that's part of what's confusing and interesting and maybe frustrating about special like you know. The whole concede is sort of like the emotional man locked away in the tiny room. It's like is a guest house for his gorgeous home where he lives with his partner and dog and you know what i mean like the ended up filmmaker. Yeah it just sort of like. I don't know like really there is part of my brain. That's like oh must have been real hard for you my guy but i don't know but i guess the one they always at least he didn't make it about. I like the way that he responded to the year without naming the things because he doesn't talk about krona virus doesn't talk about the specifics of like the protests and civil unrest and everything was happening in the country and stuff like that. He responded to those things in a way that made them more about him. In a way that i think was good. Because it wasn't bo burnham being let me guide you through making sense of the last year because i think that would have been bullshit and i'm glad that he avoided that who knows if he was in hampton to do it. But someone's going to make that special that's suck he does. He is aware of this though at times. Right it's like he. He constantly recognizes like like he'll be like oh but you're saying that i should shut the fuck up and i'm not shutting the fuck up and he's like yes but and then it cuts and so the idea is again is that he's it's almost like i get the sense that he's like i don't know what else to do. And the only thing. I know how to do this and it. It might be stupid. And he's like walk meghan to do i give away money. I'm not gonna give away my money and then it's like i could just make stuff. That's fucking stupid. I could put a bullet in my head. But i'm not going to do that so literally. It is like there is zero decision. And that's kind of how. I felt like this whole comedy. Special was i am at this precipice. Where no decision i ever make is going to be the right decision and so therefore i just do something and it's the only thing that i know how to do and so here we go and at the very least i hope you like it and is that clever or is that is there a sense in which it's like i don't know like a cynical take would be like. Oh he's just for cash. Grab because you know he can make some money during this time Or there could be some believe that. Yeah i don't think so either. I think i think he does seem to be a genuine human. Yeah so. I trust his intentions a lot. And that's the thing why like even some of the critical takes an market to mad at him. Because i think he's an. He's an introspective creative talent to do the may the thing he managed to make his own is just incredible. Like this one day. I was trying to make this ninety second video and it took me all day. And i just got pissed off and deleted it so i just think i wonder if his like if his side to catch up his artists or performative side. He can sing. He can write songs. He constructs yourself. But i feel like in this special. He thinks he has more to say than he does. And i feel like nine where it falls flat at certain parts see i. I think that he's one of the few performers. That like i actually. He says so much by saying so little performances of their accents. Like you're so well choreographed and put together and written and smart and like they do have a point like every bit has like a a meta point anna point and and whatever and this is where i felt like he kinda regress in this thing like somebody made a good point in the shadows paying attention e. warner said responding to me talking about how pretentious was he says. He wants to pretentiousness and all his into all of his specials. You and then she says brings it up in this one and yeah he comments on his commentary and or his or how pointless him saying something is in the thing and i think that in other specials he'd he does that with a more efficiently and he ends up actually saying something whereas this one it was almost like a cover. It's like basically was kind of saying. I'm nothing to give right now. Or or here's my plight but then also who cares about it that that's a being being really self-aware basically While not saying anything how. I took it for this one special. What did you think about that or just using self awareness as a cover to not say anything. I mean. i couldn't help but think about that. Like gal gadot video that had to have come out at some point when you first started making the imagine thing at the beginning of the pandemic where the celebrities told us. We're all gonna be okay. Because they knew the words to the john lennon song vlasic. Yeah so part. I looked at it. A little bit is like okay. Like he's aware of all the vary tone-deaf celebrities and famous people have said to try to make people feel better and he's at least operating without awareness and then he invites us into that tension of someone who both knows that some of this is bullshit and knows that. There's this ridiculous tendency of famous people to try to make sense of things in their lives are pretty easy but he's also a person who minds the depths of his own mental health to explore. Always feeling so to me. I just don't like it was in this tension place between those polls. It's so this is kind of shifting tack little but i was chatting a few months ago with an actor friend and she she was basically telling me something that kind of blue i stayed with me. And she was like a male actors or male performers might say oftentimes get rewarded for doing something that Like female or women performers. Just do all the time. And i was like what do you mean. She's like you know when christian bale weight or has a freakout onset people like. Oh he's just so passionate about his art right and it's like oh because a man just shows a hint of emotion like he just automatically rewarded for being human like on this other side. And i was an. It's kind of stuck with me a lot. And i don't know how far to take it but i kind of feel like the tortured artist syndrome is something that gets romanticized with men a lot right the guy who is really struggling and working through. But we don't oftentimes romanticize it for a women artists like you don't have to times like yeah you'll be like it'll be like oh my god they had so much. Sylvia plath was should such a tortured soul. But it's never like such a beautiful artist of a romantic tortured. Artists sarah kane. Who's a brilliant playwright. A british a british playwright. Like they'll be like. Oh my gosh. She had demons and stuff like that. But that's very rare that that comes with the romanticism. That you get where. I feel like a lot of people then automatically we romanticize dude when a dude is going through kind of things that are not that not that. It isn't a big feet to do an inner journey. But it's just that it's kind of glossed over with this like sheen that it's given a lot of times and we are like oh my god and we and we praise a lot of dudes when they kind of engage in this terrain and i don't always knows that's the best thing and i wonder if there's something kind of interesting going on there as well and then i think bo knows the double standard or or or the fact that were praising. Wait what you mean. Yeah there's a double standard but then it's also it just kind of interesting. That i think both kind of leans into this quite a bit. He plays the role of being the tortured artists. A little bit you know and it's something that gets away with and then he gets a lot of credit for and people then are just giving these as getting away with it. I think he's just yeah. There's probably an element of truth the double standard of genders the tortured artists and whatnot. I think you can find examples of it though. But yeah he definitely until now. Though he's been to me very energetic like almost savant prodigy. Kid you know. We met him one when he was fifteen or something and he was super smart thing. You know all of the lyrics and his early songs and stuff and then it stand up with super smart and then yeah i. This is the first time. I've seen him as the torture artists really because yeah he's he opens his special. Buy literally talking about wanting to put a fucking gun in his mouth or whatever and that's the way to start you know and and honestly we haven't really talked about it but but him talking in of the mirror at the very beginning of this special is i think very important to this whole thing. Because he when he when he when he did it. I was expecting it to kind of him to subvert that or something because he literally is talking filming into the mirror just saying like i don't know what the fuck this is. Basically who knows this. And here i am and i was like okay waiting for the joke and though he was being real like. I kind of realized that as things going on. He's just doesn't know what this is. This isn't anything called comedy specialists. He doesn't even know what it is. So it's interesting that here. We are trying to twist all the meaning fucking care which is what we do. So but yeah. I liked that he did that. I just none of it worked for me almost like almost none of it. I thought was that funnier. Whatever but i i don't know a lot of people like the sexting and the in the jeff bezos one. I think was my favor one. That was the most relatable one to meet with the bases very random. But i think there's something about the packaging of it right again. I think this is something. I think that like brits and of other europeans do this well as well. But there's like this history of like the one person show that sits at the space between theater and stand up comedy. And i feel like we don't have that space as much and in the american comedy is so tied to like the standup special that that our brain. Here's like comedic thing. And i just like if this was more like a one man show or something that was comedic but wasn't a comedy special. I think that framing would've helped me. But inter something hard about like both burnham new special and of course. It's bo burnham so expect to think i expected to be like ryan pointed out before so astutely like these different meta levels of commentary has but yet wasn't the funniest and i think the second the second time through when i knew i wasn't going to laugh a lot. I liked it better because i wasn't waiting for like some punchline hit not that he's like a punchline comic anyways you know what i mean so. It's kind of funny because at the end of of make happy i think where he says like I hope i just made you laugh. And he kind of does like the kind of laugh. And i think he's very aware that that's the kind of laughed that he's trying to get out of out of a lot of his jokes right. It isn't like the bending over and like oh my god you're laughing out loud like when you listen to patrice o'neal or something like that right like it. I think he knows that he's eliciting a different type of response. And i don't know maybe maybe i'm giving him a lot of credit. But i feel like. I feel like there was a lot of control in in making this like that. He knew exactly what this was going to be. How it was gonna land It's a very well crafted piece. I think yeah. What were you gonna say right. Yeah throw oh. I thought you know before i was asking if you meant He was going for the laugh on this one special or all of his work. You think this general on this one in particular. Yeah you can ask you guys this then going for that laughter like what do we think he's trying to say because i think there's a few readings we have the thing as a whole maybe trying to say nothing. Maybe he's capturing a mood. But i'm just curious if either of you. There was a thematic a thing. That's on his mind. One thing. he's trying to communicate ryan well. Can i ask her. Answer your question. What the question and and this is you know. The the mental health aspect of of this whole thing like is in terms of like a lot of people are saying like this is a man who has a little mental illness. And is you're you're watching him cope with it through his art. You know which. I like that interpretation but it do we think that that is the reality. Is bo burnham. I mean i don't know the answer to this object. I know he has a lot of anxiety issues. Does he consider himself to have a chronic mental illness. And that that's where we're watching him deal with. I don't know like Like like like see suffer with clinical depression or something clinical depression. Exactly you know like like i mean. He does about putting a bullet in his mouth. Obviously and basically to answer your question then that could very well be. It's summer it's watching somebody deal with anxiety depression and stuff right in front of you and making art out of it. And what during the most tumultuous time in american history ever and all of our lives. And you're kind of so. That is one predation of it. If that's what's happening we're gonna say there's this one part michael. Oh no but because. I was saying yeah well about the mental illness and there was the one part when he plays the video game of himself. At the beginning it says something like s. sri industries which sr eiser. type of antidepressant. Tim yeah so it was like oh. Is that him like commenting on going through experience being depressed and the taking medication or whatever. I don't know it seemed to be at least like a wink to that. Yeah i think. If there is a single thematic it's About detachment and loneliness in the digital age where everything is mediated by everything and so. There's that internet song where he says you know a little bit of everything all the time. And it's that it's that little idea that i think is really the motif it's like. Oh yes. we're constantly fractured. So what do we do. We go on instagram. and we We kind of all mimic each other in. We post the same photos in the same way in the same lighting. We're doing the same things because we're trying to connect with people or we sex with people. It's not sex but it's the next best thing and we're all doing the same thing and we're laughing because it's like. Oh yeah we have the emojis that tell us how to sex with the person that were engaged with this activity with and we all say the same things and we all struggle with the same things like. Oh my going to take a picture of my penis. It looks weird under the you know it's and then it's Oh we have. We have kind of like cultural issues that we're dealing with With with celebrities with economic exploitation But what the fuck do we do about it. Well the only thing we can do about it is kind of maybe go on the internet or shout something into the void or say something you know and so i think that the for me. The theme is something about the kind of like mediation of everything that is at our fingertips all the time. And how that leads to fracturing isolation etcetera etcetera and then the pandemic for me is only like the catalyst they kind of exacerbates that tendency and so. I don't think that the pandemic. I don't think that this inside special is something that couldn't have been made outside of the pandemic you know. I think that it's something that is kind of a a universal theme that is becoming more and more potent the deeper and deeper we kind of move into the neo feudal platform capitalist economy. That we're we're heading into so yeah yeah to piggyback on. What you're saying in terms of. I think four wise. I was really pleasantly surprised that he didn't he could have easily used all these internet clips and made it way more jumpy and stuff way way more graphics heavy but it was very much like like him filming with a camera in a weird light thing. We're disco lights or whatever in his room and he didn't use all these gravity. He's making all these references and stuff rapid fire. But you're you kind of have to just be listening to the lyrics and stuff. And i think that was cool that he's it's like a very it's about the internet but of kind of less internet. Mtv style however the hell you want to call it. Sorry my cut your known. Yeah if i were to give an extreme. Take on what i think is about. Maybe and i'll preface it by saying and then i really liked about it is. He didn't tell us what to do. So there's like a lot of comedians these days who will be like climate change in the light. These people are bad. We hate them. They make the world me and my friends were the good ones. And there's not funny and you're not doing anything. And i'd like that beaubrun and was like openness up to his critical process of thinking about the world but wasn't like i'm the good one be a good one like me but i do think this riffing off a couple of things he says in two of the last songs of the show. I kind of think it's a really like fatalistic. Take on things in which you think it's done over. We're not gonna make the world better. We're not gonna stop climate change. We're not gonna d. digitize the economy and people's attention spans talks at one point about like you know digital media corporations exploiting the neurochemical drama of our children for profit. Yeah that's what he's laying down all like sad on pillow and he's like. Maybe we shouldn't have done that right. Yeah it's kind of fall a fall narrative maybe should done that. You have apple the final songs. He says you say the oceans rising. I don't give a shit. You say the world is ending honey. It already did. And i think there's the sense in which like he's trying to be honest about the state of the world and i don't think he's expressing a hopefulness about making things better but i think he's trying to honestly acknowledge the state we're in and i think especially when he talks about the effect of the internet on everything from like the silicon valley types to children's neurochemical transmitters to what it means to feel you've got to create content at a constant clip. I kind of appreciated that. And i found his pseudo nihilism comforting. Because he felt it felt honest to me. You know what. They're it reminds. The honest dispute reminds me of like the lamentations of like ancient ancient religious poetics. Right where you're just lamenting that fucking destruction is coming. You've been abandoned by god the world is against you. There is no hope and it. Does it definitely has that type of lamenting type of vibe to it. But here's the thing is is when whenever someone like makes such a a cry like that. It's not necessarily like they're making an objective statement about the world like the world really is over it's more of just a fuck this bellowing from the depths of my soul. And is that why in the moment. Yeah so is that maybe why you found comfort and it cannot because he's saying therefore don't do anything because he's not making political or social process here. Yeah he's just best when it was at its most existential makes you think of. There's a lot of existential literature. People talk about you know Sort of tap dancing on the abyss. And people like friedrich soaring. Carter always talking about a business and chasms pits of knowing and it is that feeling of like. Oh shit things might not get better osha. This might be the way the world is but it seems like he's describing it from this experiential existential perspective not the sort of like according to a recent un study temperatures. Don't bother he's not. Yeah which some. Comedians actually do which ones again is now. I hate them. But yeah so i like that. It's a subjective thing for him. I i have always liked it. He deals with stuff head on. You know he's not afraid to tap their tiptoe around stuff. He goes straight into all these. You know intense issues and That's why like. I said before it's i to me before when it had commentary. This was just kind of wallowing in this kind of saying like. Alright yeah this shits fucked. This backed up talked up. And i'm acknowledging it but i have no power to do it. Here's a funny song about instagram. Dealing with my state of mind. I don't know i'm being cynical about it. I feel bad about it. Because he put a lot of his heart and soul into it. Sorry if you ever wanted. The depth of analysis is in as deep as some of the ideas and the pathos he expresses. And i think that's where it feels like i think in previous specials. It's very clear this is someone who's thought about entertainment what it means to be a performance psychology of the performer and such deep and profound ways. Especially when he was a teenager. And it's like. I can do shit when i'm a teenager. How you doing this. i think. now he's like. Oh wow. There's the structural things in the world. And he's smart enough to see that he's smart enough to connect the dots. I just think he hasn't thought about it for as long so doesn't have as much depth to contribute in that. Like i think for any of us as donahue this and we were like oh my god. I never thought about that. We were like. Oh yeah. that's that's true. That's the way to think about it. Whereas some of the previous specials there were times i was like oh fuck never thought about that part of being you know making content or consuming counting whatever. And that's why. I'm kind of curious to see what he does in the coming years because it seems like he's on it an interesting maybe yeah. I'm very hopeful now. So many people that maybe didn't study philosophy or that don't spend as much time doing this type of cultural analysis. They seem to be really kind of taken by the analysis right So do you think there's also a sense in which it's kind of like zumur those who don't spend as much time thinking about art in this way that for them they're like oh fuck like this is actually a clever or smart. I just wanna say so. Everyone is the one that implies zuma's or bad zimmer's dank sick. The revolutions gonna comment. I'm going to be a generation traitor. I will kill a millennial. gen z. no. I'll be a foot soldier. I think you got to pick sides. And that's where. I'm at all i went to say was people who get those those of the zuma generation who have yet to kind of delve into this type of analysis or those of even the millennial generation who don't spend as much time on this or fuck maybe even xers. I mean i don't know but just the idea is is do. We think that that for people who don't spend as much time engaging in this type of cultural analysis that this was kind of like an ocean moment for them you know like i would say this was the perfect like like yeah introduction to like The the philosophy sub reddit cover or something where it's just like you know for younger people. I could see this totally working on me when i'm like. Wow that was a deep special. I want to be like bo burnham and make cool stuff and that and in that way that's a good thing you know even though me this jaded thirty four year old you know podcast on this show tearing the ship apart made something you know and and yeah like i think it just was very service level i think for commentary whereas before it wasn't okay so then let's think about this. Why do up to why. Why do some people gravitate to this so much. Why has this caused such an uproar. Like michael i know. You've tweeted about how some people hated on the special. I haven't seen so much. Hate the critiques academically minded types that are like oh it was just kind of shallow and it wasn't that deep. It wasn't really that. Frankie you comedy types eight it and i think it's a lot of people who i follow social media comedians or writers or performers or comedy critics. Who are a little bit and are kind of just like put off by his earnestness. And that's why. I think some of those criticisms. I think they're kind of bullshit. It's like okay just because this person like has feelings and stuff doesn't mean we get to be like he's not forty but i think there's also a type of person and this is a couple of critiques. I saw on the internet this week. I don't really agree with these. Who were like. Oh so the guy that lives in a mansion as millions of dollars and has a guest house to make his special and is going to tell me how hard the world is and like. I and that's yeah one person who argued with me on twitter about this was like basically argue that he's never struggled for anything. So why should we care about what he has to think. I'm not gonna say what i think about that necessarily but i think that some of some of the criticism comes from that and i think some of the other criticism i've seen from people that are a little bit more sympathetic or like comedy types. Who were like. This is really cool looking. It's extremely impressive. This guy's really talented. But i don't know what he's really saying they find what he's saying a little bit like surface level No not necessarily just reporting a front lines of internet commentators. Okay then why do we think that on the complete opposite end of the spectrum wire so many people just enamored by this like. Why do people love this. What is it about this special in particular is at this particular time. That's why i asked at the outset. Like is this the comedy special. We needed this time. I think some people really felt like they could like their voice was being given some sort of airtime. But i think there's anyone else made like post pandemic art. The really captures what it's like to be in your shitty house or room and you truly can't remember the last time you showered and your hair's all crazy you smell bad and especially if you're a creative person you wanna make shit but you feel to like bum to make shit and maybe cry a little bit but then you like watch a funny video and you forget that you were crying like he captures that really well really well. I think a lot of people that didn't live in australia. Just surf through. The pandemic can relate to that of it. Yeah people like comedy. They like honest observational. Humor stuff and topical things really. Oh yeah. I agree with that kind of stuff. And he's a charismatic dude. You funny songs always a winner And yeah an honest. And honestly i. I do think that the there's a lot of people dealing with severe anxiety and mental issues and stuff that relate to it so you because of the pandemic and not because of the pandemic and so yeah so i think all that in one makes it a big makes it a hit in the in the in the tiktok age. I mean i've been. I've been going through my own little bout of writer's block right and i've been i've done a lot of like self-diagnosis just over the years general whenever i'm in one of these folks what is in for me. It oftentimes comes from a lack of confidence. Right it's a crisis of faith. Like my favorite thing. I've ever really heard about writer's block from johnny resnick of the goo goo dolls. Who's like the crazy thing about writer's block. He's like the crazy thing about writer's block is like you're still producing stuff. You just think that everything. You produced sucks and so i saw that behind the music. Yeah yeah and i was like from way back in the day right and so it's stuck with me right and that's that's how my writer's block manifest itself. It's just like a crisis of confidence right. So the first time i watched this is sat there and i was like i felt like a big pile of shit because i was like. Why can't you just can't produce anything. Because this guy he just he can write. he can play the piano. he's he's funny. He's humorous. He's got enough resources to do these cool light displays in this cool little home studio that he has an here just fucking loser and you can't produce anything embo. It doesn't matter you could like you could be like dude. You've done this this. This doesn't matter. Then i'm a piece of it and i don't know why i felt that way. But it was almost like i was looking at somebody that was so multifaceted and had these opportunities to produce something and i got a little envious and a little jealous and then maybe not. Yeah i would think you were crazy if you didn't if you're any type of person wants to create any type of content that's comedic or otherwise and you look at the fact. He writes in this officer good and he writes his jokes in their good and his editing. Like ryan pointed out good and like he's just a super fucking talented guy. I don't trust you if part of your brain isn't like fuck and he he's handsome. Come on yeah yeah. So that's that was my first kind of like that was my first reaction. I literally there afterwards. And i was like that was fun and then on man i fucking suck man. I gotta start doing something. And then and then and then michael and i had a little bit of exchange and i wonder how much of this is true like how much of his ability to produce stuff comes from him having just a little bit of like middle class white boy hubris right like it takes a lot of hubris at some point to be like. I'm just gonna fuck and make something right. Like i'm just going to throw it against the wall especially something this kind of ambitious totally self produced self shots like. There's a little bit where you've got to be a little bit like okay like maybe it's the only thing i know how to do because this is just who i am but also really like people people need this right like like this needs to go out like there's something at least in my mind when i make that hand off to publish something that i'm like or to produce something that i'm kind of like. Oh yeah this. This needs to be seen by others sports real. There's a thing you hear lot if like you're watching an nba game or someone who misses ten shots in a row and keeps shooting and they'll be like the difference between good and a bad shooter is a good shooter in ten shots and he absolutely believes he's making the eleven shot. He has no doubt in his mind. Normal person misses ten shots and says. I'm not an idiot if i miss ten. I'm probably gonna miss eleven. And i think bo burnham has a little bit of that where he's like believes in himself enough to take shots See i. I can admire that though in and i think there's a way that we could criticize it and be like. Oh it's just like middle class white male privilege but then at the same time. There's also something kind of admirable that anyone who's creative. You have to have a little bit of that like okay. I'm gonna take that eleventh shot right. No maybe yes. Silence i'm alone ryan little ryan depre- talk mouth move while i was thinking about that metaphor like in terms of trying to think of eleven shot but i mean yeah. There's people of all ages. Genders races are tinkering in the room with shit and stuff. I will say that the fact that he has a name. He knows that his weird little pandemic art projects going to get this be seen by a million people and be on netflix ex. So that's not like anybody can go all right. I'm gonna spend a year making this thing in my room. And that's all. I'm going to do and they don't have netflix. Fix netflix paying their utility bill every month. So it's like that. That's the way bigger risk for anybody else to do something like this and put it up and say oh this is going to be my job. You know so yeah innocence. I agree with you. Yeah michael you. We were talking before we started recording. We were talking about the white women on instagram. And i was laughing about it because there have been some really clever sort of stitches and duets on tiktok of white women who are on instagram. That are like damn bo burnham i feel really seen and they show all their photos of them with like the twenty seven balloon twenty seven age balloon or the potted plant by the window or whatever it is that is very similar to the way that he kind of stages it. You said that you thought that there was something interesting in that song. What was your question. Yeah question for you guys for everyone. Who's with us right now. Hanging out at. There's a part of that song. The frame ships and the person does a post about their dead mom and it cuts from like all these little factoid to like someone doing a post about the missing their mom. Tell dad i said hi in heaven or something like that right. I feel like there's at least two ways to interpret that one bovorn him stopping and he saying hey even people that are constantly posting vapid shit or whatever you know things just like everyone else on social media there people to other read. That is people are so cynical. These days they will even turn like missing dead loved ones into content. I was at the special for me. The moment i was like. Oh he's saying that like people do this stuff and initially were like oh see. They're just doing something sweet. But then you think about it more and you're like why are you have to turn this in the fucking content and i think that he's making this bigger point but i've seen people respond i read. It was like one reviewer there but he backs away and says something really sweet house like. I don't think that was sweet. Yeah i don't think it was sweet either. I mean not that he doesn't have his critique of of culture is always pretty cut throat right he. He might back off at some point and be like well. What else are we gonna fucking do. But that's that's that's much less like a all but they're genuine in their creation of this instagram post. He's the he rarely ever goes to that. He's always like oh your genuine. So you think but really. You're just building brand if you look at everything else from that brand awareness he's like i'm bo burnham and i'm a brand now totally fucking cynical right the instagram one. Same sort of thing. Even the sexting song is funny. But i find it. Also there's a there's a tinge of sadness that's like it's not sex but it's the next best thing because we can't do anything else because we're stuck in this shitty isolated situation so again i don't know i i definitely would take the more cynical well and it. Doesn't you think of a point. He says i forget what sketches is from. But i'd never down. He said at one point. The non digital world is merely theatrical space in which one st records content for the much more real much more vital digital space. Yes and i think that's like a theme throughout as well like who cares about real life. Who cares about being with a real person or comforting. A loved one who died. It's about making that your digital getting clicks making content out of it. Yeah and even though he only if you're watching this content only he only explicitly shits on celebrities for like using social causes for their own self actualization. I can't remember what the exact line is. But i think that we could also say that. Yeah we also as non celebs who are trying to be celebs by branding. Ourselves through our online personas right by. Maintaining our ratings of through social media followers in likes and things like that like that we too are also sort of trying to self actualize by posting about our relationship with our dead mom or whatever it is that we're posting about that. There is a sense in which we're trying to do that. But then here's the alternative. I also won't fault people for doing that. Because people only have the options to do stuff insofar as they have resources that are at their disposal. And so if you live in a world that only gives you a certain of resources. Those are the tools that you're going to be working with so for me. It takes us right up to that limit and then it makes us say okay so if we see that's true and if we're gonna make some sort of like critical remarks on that then what can we do beyond that. And that's what i think. Though he does leave us with he kind of he doesn't give us the answer and say therefore. You should do this do that. Whatever but it's much more like okay so this is the problem and and here we are stuck with. We're stuck with an a gnarly problematic and it's going okay. Well let's let's kinda confront that head on. I dunno infamy. That's kinda clever magazine head head. Not i think it's expo- subtle agreement with you and agreement with bow. And yeah and i do think you're right like he doesn't tells what to do but i think he'd encourage you to like acknowledge things for what they really are an angle of what he shows us as like the similac room and the sort of like shit we used to distract ourselves with and a lotta times in the special. It's like here's what we normally distract ourselves. If you move away from that plato's cave type stuff you might realize it shits kinda fucked up but maybe that's good. Maybe it's healthy to like step away from you. Know the proverbial screen or whatever and and breakthrough a bit. So good for him. Just make your funny songs in your dark darkroom and just hope that everything goes away. Yeah as we as we hurl headlong into heat death yeah world burns outside of you but doing what were your favorite segments or sketches from this. What would you have like a. What's a highlight. I know so. Ryan you said the bezos the bezos bit. Jeff bezos. and all the transitions to i really liked the very quick ones. I wish i had one but you know the things that would that would be the book ins in between the longer. Sketches were gray jet as us was probably my favorite long-form one is that the one where he say. Jeff bezos you did it. Is that the one. Or just like it just congratulating soggy as us his own personal anthem. How awesome is and he tells gates and buffet. They can like fuck and suck it because like on what he did it just like you did it richard in the world so good about you michael. I'm going to like. I think i liked the react video. The okay the the first through. I did not like the react to the react to the react video. Second time through loved it because i liked when he the first like osas right there. This is about like you know. There's a lot of songs about labor exploitation blah blah blah. Then the second time he's like a. I'm trying to sound smart there. Because i feel this need to have everything i say. Have a meaning in the next time through. It's like shit on myself. I'm so afraid of criticism. I undercut myself. Increase is actually. Think that because i really believe what i'm saying. I thought that was pretty fun. Yes i would like to second was probably the smartest sketch like like that to me. Was like classic bo. Burnham fucking meta shit. You know in stuff. I didn't laugh importantly but i still thought it was. It was incredible. And i think that and the funny feeling song or two things that viewing one i was like an secondhand through. I really liked the funny feelings song. When there's a line where it's like you know gift shop at the shooting range and shooting at the mall or something are mass shooting at the mall and then that funny feeling at first i was like what is he talking about. I was like oh yeah the way they like fucked up shits happening all the time and it makes us feel weird but we feel weird because there's nothing we can do about it. We don't know how to stop it. And it just part of life and i was like fuck you kind of got that one. And it's so funny when he starts and he's like. I'm not very good at guitar and i can't sing either. It's like fuck you man play characters you were saying that You're looking forward to seeing what he produces in the future. Do you think he's going to step aside for years ago energy. Think that he's going to do a live like once. Things open backed up. Do you think he's going to go back to doing because he says that. That like i was basically it was. It had been four years and i was kind of like okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go back to doing live shows. And then that was in january of two thousand twenty and then of course. He couldn't so he does this thing where there's no audience do you think we'll see him back doing live stuff again. Like do you think he's gonna go direct another film do you think what do you think is the future for both or do you think he's going to be like fuck. I gotta take a break. I dunno. I hope he does more weird video shit like this. It's experimental even though i'm cra- cracking on it like a that that he has it in them to do all sorts of weird projects and yeah. I'd love to see another narrative film like eighth grade. I'd love to see another stand up special. i'm selfish. I want more bone in my life. The more stand up. Give me the more movies and giving more weird experimental stuff. And i just the next agreed on all counts and i think if i could design a dream and project i love her and have a tv series or like streaming series that was like ten episodes and was like vignettes where it wasn't like a narrative structure. But he just did something for ten times for half an hour or zach. Stone is gonna be famous fan. I'm going to be honest. I never watched that. And now what kind of well you got your dream project. Your dream bo burn. Projects been may go. Check it out. I'm a fucking idiot. Then i was thinking of him doing weird. Rt shit but yeah. I just wanted to make stuff. I hope he does a live performance. I would like to go to one. Yeah yeah i agree on everything. I hope you make another film to. Because i loved eighth grade. So okay cool. So let's go ahead and wrap up the chat about inside there and let's quickly turn to the mailbox just to answer one quick email. We didn't get any voice. I'm surprised didn't get any voicemails about top gun. I got a lot of people. Hit me up on twitter about top gun. But we didn't get any emails or voicemails about top gun but people are still talking to us about pulp fiction so we'll delve into some of that. So if you want to call us and voicemail about bo burnham's inside or about anything from her back catalogue. You can call us at one. Two one three five three four eight zero seven. That's one two one three five three four eight zero seven. Or if you don't want to leave us voicemails us at movies at wise crack dot c. Show that's movies at wise crack dot c. So albert wrote in about pulp fiction on said. I appreciate the call outs. A wanted to remark on raymond's feelings about pulp fiction. I was also introduced to tarantino with kill bill and likewise feel like pulp. Fiction is missing something that gives it a spark. I have to wonder if the height influences. Our perspectives kill. Bill came out eight years. After pulp fiction there were plenty. Who already held it. As one of the greatest movies ever made the by the time i got around to watching i thought the general consensus was an exaggerated herd mentality. I liked jackie brown and reservoir dogs more for a period. Is that rational. Are there movies that you caught late. Whose reputations in florence your thoughts on the film what do you think probably number one for. This is two thousand one where you know i i think i saw 'cause tom hanks was talking about talking about it in interviews for apollo thirteen and ten years old like i want to see another space movie and then i go and my dad's like are you sure you want to see this movie. Two thousand one. And i'm like yeah then i'm like i could barely get through the monkeys. It was what the fuck is this. Why did tom. Hanks lead me astray like this as a ten year old. Now revisited the film since then. A austin yeah. And i love it like a million times. A film austin. What are you watching it now. I see the glare. Yeah yeah so so. I wonder if also the hype thing because that was like an age thing to right. Yeah that was more of an age thing probably so. You're right in terms of pure hype. I'd have to think a little bit about what you guys michael. You only thing. I can think of is like i didn't watch any paul thomas anderson films for awhile. I'm trying to the first one that i did. But when i finally saw them. It was very much detached from the narrative and hype surrounding then and the liked them all very much because on. This is a real heartache. Take have that. He's he's a good director movies. You heard it here. You're going to be like holy shit. He craft that egg out. No i think that's one thing that comes to mind as a really good question. Not sort of question. Where like wouldn't great day here yesterday and in now act like we were just hearing it for the first time are answers have been so good but this is proof that we're really organically entering this. Yeah i mean. I think it's to me. It's obviously the the case that i oftentimes get over inflated expectations or won't be i i actually. I like the opposite when people shit on something. And they're like. Oh it's fucking terrible fucking terrible and then. I go see like the meg in the theater. And i'm like oh man. I had so much fun seeing that you know. It's terrible movie. But i knew there was gonna be a terrible movie so i was like. I'm going to go in and see this terrible movie. And i had fun laughing at. It's absurdity stuff like that. i liked that version. So maybe we should just under sell everything. All the time is what i'm saying like. Don't go. Yeah that's good life advice. Promise over deliver parenting. Whatever you're doing just promise almost nothing more all right. Let's get out of here. Where can everybody find you on the internet. Michael oh michael burns On twitter and michael burns with some underscores between things on instagram. Come confined to come to my house. Sweet what about you right. Ryan shorts on youtube twitter instagram. All that shit up comedy shorts every week hell tokyo who the after after we walked ryan shorts and we want to find you where we go You can hit me up on my youtube channel. Just austin hayden of got a philosophy. Podcast dot wills at dawn and you find me on twitter austin under spur hayden insta. Us underscore h. a. y. You guys both have cool youtube channels. That's so fun congratulated of you. I like both of very. It's an emerging platform. Nope creators ryan. Send us your brother from inside part hub. Students world saugus.

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Getting the Truth in this Art with Rebecca Alban Hoffberger of The American Visionary Arts Museum

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Getting the Truth in this Art with Rebecca Alban Hoffberger of The American Visionary Arts Museum

"Rob here folks from npr. Podcast and this month's presenting sponsor is double dutch boutique. Double dutch is vintage. Inspired flare with a contemporary cut. The boutique features sought after independent designers from around the world as well as assorted goods produced by local artists and makers double dutch promises. A shopping experience just as unique as as close papuan over to. Www dot double dutch boutique dot com today for their latest goods. Welcome to getting to the truth in his art. I'm your host. Rob lee and today's guests is the founder director and principal curator of the american visionary art museum rebecca hoffler. Welcome to the podcast. Hurry high the morning. How're you let me do this thing. I can't believe i showered for you. That's that's that's great. I put on the thai I wanna thank you for something. You didn't know you did for me. I love to laugh. It's like the only vacation. I get right so i didn't know patrice o'neal and so i fell asleep. I did have to more Memorial services yesterday. It was like a day of veto Our longest running volunteer passed away and we know morning and then i had another friend who passed over and i fell asleep and all my clothes all the lights on the tv. On at as soon as i got home. And i didn't wake up till five. And then i was reading about what you love because i want to know the person i'm talking to and with and i wanna thank you because watch like everything on you. Kneel you know did you know we under louis black and i. I'm a huge for his social justice. Work as well a l and you may be familiar with them. How oscar wilde said. If you're going to tell people the truth make him laugh or else they'll kill you and that that works like why there was always a court jester. You know a honestly not as just a diversion from life but to really to communicate big truce in ways. That people can take it in that. That's that's one of the thank you. That's that's one of the things that i've heard from just just different people that i know that. That's an ability or trait. That i have. I don't really think. I hear it from other people that some of the stuff i talk about in my other. Podcast it's usually kinda weird news at has a particular reverence slant to it but is generally this is what's happening in the world around us in these are real stories and yeah they're gonna make you laugh year they're gonna you know make you cringe worthy but at times that the main goal of the stuff is are you thinking about this. Are you seeing this these people that you're around regularly these your friends your neighbors your family and the we're doesn't stop even with corona virus. That weird does not stop escalate. Who expand this is. I think i received pizza from him. Once at the he was delivering from joe square. But yes i know of. He's amazing and he was like the lead singer for all mighty senators and he going to tube station and For health reasons. He's not going out a lot but he taught himself how. I think he's absolutely genius. I tell ya he. He performs all the parts that he has two backup men and it's just you know they knew how to put it ahead and So he did the best to songs uncovered and the one is a back the hail up. And it's like the most beautiful articulate boys and then his other is Was called sleep sleep schedule and the ideas that with when you don't have to go to work because you know it's covert or whatever he's got my wine glass next coffee cup he had to and i put in a in my new sleep show. And what's amazing. Is that many geniuses throughout time of all sorts in science and engineering in mary. Shelley dreaming up frankenstein because of a dream I supposed with this world famous garage. Est named dr george church his narcolepsy but he says that he gets his best ideas when he in that in between stage and same for landis expanded like his songs in his paintings which are. I can't believe i didn't know about them before. I just new music And so we put that in the show and we juxtaposed because a lot of people like i ask you have you ever. Have you ever had a dream. Come true that you ever have a dream. Then later it came to pass. I suppose yes. Yeah i can't think of one right off the dreams vivid sometimes and it's all of these different things flowing by but i'm sure like there have been things that have happened. I'm like i dreamed about this has happened in my head so I used to be at war with sleep. Like oh my gosh asleep. When i'm dead. Got it the right. And a truly all the latest research for example Matt walker discovered that went men who sleep by hours a night. On average or less had very small testicles. And that's because at why and it's true for women to our our hormones balanced at night when we're in rim sleeper. Our eyelids fluttering in. We're dreaming protein synthesis in time in the twenty four hours. The protein synthesis is going on in the body. The most as well. So it's like it's not a you know sleep or or an escape it's like it's doing all these fabulous things for us and so our new show really deals with that and then three bedroom sets by individual visionary artists You know a lot of us are frustrated curator's and and it's amazing when people take you know kind of charge of their domain. And what they've done the. I already felt like this is going to be like a fire interview because because i want to say like of course this week Like the shared goal. And i think. I'll put it in the the the initial email. But the sheer goal of this podcast. This series is interviewing artists entrepreneurs into people. I think dr in an integral part of the culture here in baltimore and i think I think it's important. I i know that was the whole thing Angers the energy for change so in. This is something i got from my therapists years ago. I used to get really annoyed. And i was like this stupid. He's like you might want to do something about it. I was like fair. So when i want to say what is. It is little over a year ago. Maybe eighteen months at this point when trump was talking very ill baltimore city in that whole back and forth with the logic comments. I had a few easy jackson. Olin ahead james nasty on and they had a very vulgar very rough response to a lot of the stuff they were very right to and i was like i can keep doing this instead of a six foot. Four hundred pound black man. I was like i'm already scary so instead of threatening someone and yelling all of this different stuff how i just highlight and show in this. Prove your point. It just proved the point. You're trying to make in show people who are doing cool things here show that we have a lot of talent here that gets overlooked because i think baltimore is used as a buzz words. We're used as like chicago was a few years back of. Oh we want to talk about a plays that because it's not all chicago. They mean south side. They mean where. And i realize this and i'm on the bachelor saying it if it's mostly black city that's the issue and that's that's the dog was kind of thing that i hear and it frustrates annoys me because i don't think we're different from where unique but i think we need to be normalized. I don't think we're to differ from any other city. We have issues like any urban place. Does we have a lot of talent and we have individuals here we have personalities here and i think that gets washed away. And that's what i wanna do this podcast to show that we have ardeshir. We have people doing dope things and realize especially during covid that. I'm not that it network at a skill that i was afraid of because i've done a few few direct sales jobs. I'm not doing well. But i guess in going out there and pitching i've been podcasting for. It'll be twelve years in february and it's something that i'm very passionate about one of those I was. I was rejected by the school of the arts too young and i was like i need to do something else and i got into like playing with audio and all of this stuff is self taught and have my own equipment and build it out like a studio and all of this different stuff. That's kind of where i'm at so they earlier in the week The the kirk butts. Who's in botha. He reached out to me and he was like i was like yes. We should and and see where that goes good. Good you know. The thing is i do think baltimore's unique and has been like i have to say i've been part of a old enough. I just turned sixty eight and it was so interesting. Because i've been through like eight rebranding of baltimore and when i first ziam i went to this one meeting and it was like. Oh you know we should have fox hunting ritually but since then there have been so many lane You know like grant in monikers for the city of baltimore. I mean really and the hey every time they pay faith popcorn comment and they pay like a million dollars and then they have to. They feel then obligated to make posters of it and stuff. So i'm gonna do. i mean. Just pro bono. My staff i really you know. I think we really nailed we We won like the top designed Over all the museums that have kazillion dollar budgets in the over and over again more first prizes than smithsonian and let it that's also are theresa gratitude. I give an idea and she just runs with it. You know but you know it is a cauldron. When did you ever read the and terro pierre. Tellas book is first one was a not in my neighborhood about redlining and our bellizzi of 'cause at really from the developers of homeland and whatever the law. They found a way to exclude make neighborhood. exclusive by law. You know no shoes. No blacks that happened in maryland and kind of spread across and that's a great legacy but yeah But when i read his newest book which i anybody who loves baltimore should read The ghost of johns hopkins. Oh my gosh taken. Oh i'm telling you like you'll you'll have to throw up in some piece by. I made me throw up because part of it is. Our history is so dark and this is well before. It was a primarily african american city. So when i was asked to participate in this new moniker baltimore thing yet again and after i read i said. Remember that old song bad to the bone baltimore to the bone but Actually another person was a great sense of humor suit. You should interview because he had the best response. I thought trump About when he was dishing with elisha coming. So i do word of you know by the way. Did you ever ate the skit bub. But did you ever watch elijah. Cummings bringing michael cohen to cheers of because of his kindness to michael cohen. Who's like i'm gonna. I'm working on his show. Call it healing in and the art of compassion. And i wanna just put that in in the screen. The people see that how powerful loving kindness is. But what's interesting is like if you really look at the history of baltimore I used to do a tour intro to people coming because we get a lot of international national guests. You know and it's it's hilarious. We say well. How did you hear from us. You're there with your children. Were twelve and ten from germany. You know you're over here to take the wire tour. Great the with their kids to baltimore to take the mayor. Tours like whoa. That's like allergy there. But you know the great thing about as john said to of being you know number one in d- d. Do you know that we had been judged number one and beat any sit. Well at least you could get a date year old so there there is something unlike. I'm so glad when we're number one in something horrible. Because i rattle number one is something horrible that number two or three and because if if the creative people can make a change here it means anywhere on earth can really change for the better. And that's why. I went and studied mid the in columbia because it was murder capital of the world. I mean d. It was the worst. I mean Much worse than here and the but they had the number one a medical facility in all of that huge part of the world of the verse. Successful kidney transplant was in managing. They had very very wealthy people and then they had abject poverty and misery and gangs and it was like wow week we had to learn from them because it's now the most successful with fifteen years out from the change Shift to the most studied. Turn around city and so i wanted to know what they do because and we did a whole year on big hope for baltimore. Lessons learned from it. You know and There is so much potential in the city of baltimore and but there's a lot unfortunately i don't know there's a lot of lameness you know a to you know really is i have to say and And so you know but brothers these pockets of absolute genius and we don't we don't treat them very well. Well the latest thing i wanted to inject because you mentioned the slogans and i remember one that caught my attention and so my background was in marketing. And i'm currently data analyst and one of the things that i was. I was working heavily in marketing at the time for like verizon and i remember that whole baltimore get in on it. I was like. I need a new job. I need to work here because this is bad and and you know being being a resident for lifelong resident from here. It's like this means nothing at all of its throw this year and i remember the thing about the joke because like i'm in my mid thirties so having that whole baltimore city that reads and stuff growing up with that. I'll say it does that work in is just. Your thing is like lane stuff. It's there it's like. How can we brand. That's just like how can we fixed branch or something Like it's like when when someone's music or trying to create a fan base he'll give their fan base a nickname just like you're reaching to. You're really reaching to try to have some identity related to this. Property is not about what they're doing is about them being a commodity and if you can find a way for people to feel included suddenly there you go and that's what this brand is the baltimore readers. Whatever yeah yeah. No i agree. I would love to hear what you come up with because you've been digestion. The city for long i thought so i thought we were And i have like a bunch of ask. We we had I was asking my One of my one of my good friends as asking house like so. What is he for baltimore. And i was like outside of crabs. I was like. I don't want crabs on air As like what can we have. That's different from that. No crabs no snow natty. Boh none of that stuff and we. We were bumping our heads against the wall. And then when. I did the other one of the questions that used to ask this particular podcast. Who's the black celebrity representative for baltimore in like a lot of guests. I have no idea. Billion billie holiday's much more popular in europe than she is here. You know jobs iconic and when when we did our show high on life transcending addiction You know she had this great great you know. She was very abused as a little kid and just went through so much and yet she said this thing when people were critical of her of her drug habit. She said i never heard anybody but myself. You know You know there are a iconic people. I love the mass that the daughters of elijah cummings have made which were better than this. They're really beautiful. Nasdaq and stuff Now there's so much here you know i would. I would try to introduce more. you know. They're all these like the catholic see is here. The basilica via sumptious shin you know and The largest contiguous jewish community even more than new york in terms of its pack and the quaker movement. That was so strong here And the first week. G board and then when madeleine murray so prayer for the school the most famous atheist ever lived a fell right. So you know you know this out there. You know and i love that. I called baltimore really a cauldron of such brewed either so sublime or so poisonous and I like i could see how curious you are in. I am probably to a fault. I mean i'm constantly wanting to understand more Read that book and then our talk and let's bring on ann. Tarot who the man who wrote the ghost of johns hopkins. A baltimore was like the the headquarters in all of america for Grave robbing like we were really good at it. And and the railroad. You've heard of the term rotgut. So what would a people get would get buried and boom boy that night. 'cause fresh corpses earned more than an old dried up once So so they would have this efficiency thing where they would dig up it the head area and then put a big fishing hook down and like pull up the body from this little space and then they would sell it to the med schools. Spoke locally but up in Connecticut yale harvard. And they used our you know railroad and they would put all these corpses alcohol to preserve them to go up and then they would all this gross parche. They would sell the alcohol rotgut to the med students. That's actually got a great that property. That's big phil this. This is the thing like. I feel like at tom's on one of these. I have three ideas that are just sitting in my google. Drive of like very baltimore. Oriented stories are pastiches of other stuff that we've known seen one as a pastiche of the warriors and it's called like the saints of station north in solving mysteries in like that part of baltimore city and it's just as one line in it where it's like. Oh we've got a city. Is this thing about baltimore being so small but people in is like. I don't wanna go to west baltimore like no one goes always knows i'm not going to always bells and i'm occurs as saying it like that line from valley girl and it's like i don't want to go to the valley i don't want to go to ed as like it's very easiest various specific but i like that we have all of these rich things. He's rich historical things. Weird that it's like you said digging. You can get a fair amount of content out of this in terms of movies in terms of books and things like that. But i think that maligned reputation i mentioned earlier is a piece of it is just. He will know people in the people here. Do i know. I just new thing which comes up with these dumb slogans instead of really but you know what would be good is to look at what are the most memorable city monikers. You know. Keep austin weird. That was so portland stolen to But you know they were the first and you know. They really embraced that. Virginia's for lovers we know but a john waters. I was on briefly on the which the chamber of commerce and I had read the first book. Jim waters had ever written that. He said he dreamed that he would partner with the chamber of commerce and he would want to see a bumper sticker. That would say come to baltimore and be shocked and i. I wanted like a whole thing where you would have all sorts of diverse people. You know characters looking shocked absolutely shocked and then what they love about baltimore that nobody knows you know like like it would be playful and fun and we had a celebrity and then his You know hairspray did so well on broadway. And when you make a kazillion bumper stickers less than two cents a piece we could put that on. Every you know just like bertha's mussels you'll see you'll be driving in ireland and you'll see a bumper sticker saying you know whatever this eat buffet bertha's mussels right a so. I think you should go take over. I think they're looking for the Reginald lewis museum because you had that lovable more work in his. Put your ear hat in. And i'll help anything like i found out through a there's a philip godin forgetting listening that the great You know historian of black culture for maryland and he told me about princess we she was the most perfect small woman ever in treated like a queen circus life and was introduced to queen victoria where she married a giant. 'cause you gotta go there right but she was like a huckabee proportioned and she was. I think like thirty seven inches tall but everything was perfect on her and dressed beautifully. So there there so many stories to be told. I mean people don i. I wish more kids growing up in baltimore who aware of the very serious inequities driving while black. you know. All of that would know how we treated gypsies the fine in one thousand nine hundred if you were gypsy was a thousand dollars if you were invulnerable Limits after dark. And then the. Yeah i mean it was like they really aided gypsies. And what's interesting is there was this spirited girl You know a young woman from roland park gone who gonna bring mar- you know really and she ran away with the gypsies and married the gypsy a king and And then wrote the syndicated column on life for the gypsies. And of course this was like i mean the worst things you could have done right but what's interesting. Is that her dad. Who was this you know. Seon those of a society Said i've gotten to know him and he's he loves my daughter and he's actually a wonderful person you know and i that that story Like the true stories you get at so. I'm begging because of the reginald. Lewis has a quarter of the visitors. We do but they get one point. Four million more dollars from the state every year that we do. We have miracles with little money. We have so there's a there's a connection sitting there. there's a connection. There's a connection there. I went to morgan and they sponsored one of the years. I was there so least parts. Class wanted years i was there so hey remember me e from back in the day you know more hair less of a beard struggling to finish midterms. Hey yeah no absolute lake. So i just think you have that love and frankly a good museum is muse oriented you know as that divine inspiration that comes in manifested in music medicine in invention ables sort not just art and i think you would make it so alive so. Throw your hat in honestly. I'll do that. I'll do that and doing the story behind this. You know baltimore for so long and Yeah love with walk on the wild side about the true history of baltimore in who was brave enough. For example everybody knows hopkins but a story on the period in which it was camelot. Because four years before hopkins opened its doors to african americans. Physicians open christ church hospital and it was open to everybody. And because they were kinda not welcomed at hopkins later the Most of the medical staff under head under him were european physicians and everybody got along and they you know. People don't realize in the early days of hopkins. They didn't want to treat a talion. They didn't want to treat the irish l. This was like you rick. And it wasn't the johns hopkins in the original. Johns hopkins was quaker. He gave the money wanting it to be for everybody. And specifically for those who couldn't pay and that was to be one hospital for people of color as well and you know as soon as he got left the money. They didn't get it together until later they were like that and there was a separate until nineteen. I think it was sixty six really late. There was the separate You know Hospital for mccullers ibaka for to do a truth and reconciliation process with hopkins at for like the juniors and like you know. I think they liked it. Okay i may have some things about hopkins not to dump on them. Only but i think they re story told and it would be a really healthy process to look and you read a lot about that in the the ghost of johns hopkins You know a where where we've come from. Because i i think when people say to me what's the most creative thing you've ever seen and expect me to say some painting or a play or something. I always go to reconciliation process. Like and i got to work with archbishop tutu here In our show on character right and it was called race class and gender. Three things contribute zero to character because being a schmuck is inequality everybody and it was the most beautiful show. He cries what we did. You know you know that's great. So i'll be remiss if i if i don't do the duty i this. This is a great conversation firstly. But if i don't do the duty then my not sponsors. I'm trying to get sponsors when my not sponsors will like. Hey rob. You didn't do your show the way to do it. So i got a few questions. I'm going to ask few about the museum in a few about your work in like. You're kind of connection to baltimore all of that stuff and then we'll we'll go from there and also One of the things. I like to integrate in. The show is a psychedelic call. Shameless plugs says we wrap up. You have anything that you want to plug instagram. The come they get anything virtual going on all of that stuff. That's the time to do it. So could you describe the the mission or the vision of what was the thinking coming out with With obama like these acronyms. Okay grill quick. Then the cornerstone for me from the very beginning. We're really chew things. But the the cornerstone. Was this notion that i express is saying a creative acts of social. Justice is life's highest performance art because to make real positive. Change is the hardest thing. You have to be fiercely creative. 'cause there's so many things pushing back from all sides to kind of keep things as they are so you have to be kind of a genius to make social change so that was one ocean. The second was that what fuels evolutionary creative invention of all sorts and for me that has been intuition the ability to listen not to know. I'm not anti academic. But i'm saying what we look for in our artists to soak and the people we pull in our people who are fresh thinkers and who may not even watch themselves some don't even think of themselves artiste. You know they're just building the garden of eden in the backyard for the last forty years in pay who i get or not it other like really wholeheartedly devoted and then my my bias is. I've always loved science. And i love how often. It's the backyard tinkerer. That will come up with you. Know not not the big funding behind. It will see the elegant solution. So i'm very interested in hippocratic state. You know when pe- where do people get their ideas. I it's usually this when we did. Holy aged fluid universe We said get your best ideas in the shower. A lot of people get their your slow race Some for some people's when they're on long drives like there's something about you know you're not page you're paying attention to the road but your other part of your mind is free and again this mining of our sleep and sometimes you get a great idea at night right in wake up. The won't forget this and if you don't write it down. Usually it's gone and you ever know pad at my nightstand all the time. 'cause i hourly. There's something really goofy that i'm working on league. Well that finished like the first like ten issues. I did this comic book that cats that a lawyers. It's it's what it's about cats that are lawyers and it's it's it's just me working in just different things and it all came out of a conversation with with my girlfriend. There's a different generational thing. They're like she's i guess she's genetics and i am not about genetics. So i'm like you've never saw this. And she's like i've never seen this cartoon. I don't know what you're talking about. And look there has to be a judicial wing in swat cats cartoon. I used to watch back in the early nineties. And there's no special kittens unit. No attorneys that claw and also. That's the idea. That's a frigging started writing down things and the characters in it are based on a couple of my and myself and it's a way of kind of working different things together and it's it's kind of what we're talking about little bit earlier that dream thing where i wanted to be in comics. When i was younger i would do all of it. I would do the writing inking all of the stuff and just some person was just like. This is kind of childish. It's like well. I'm mike levin so you know it was one of those things and coming net like thirty four at the time and finding a different way to do it. It's like she and i eat right. The comic and i have an artist that does the illustration and web comic. And i think one some once we do a few more issues. There's some stuff in the middle. We want to kind of add back in like stuff. That wasn't there initially just a binding stuff. We're gonna do printouts. And i've talked to a few different local vendors as a. Yeah we love to have this store. And i was like this is my back door way of being a comic guy. It will let us know because that's you Most of my staff. I'm a dog person but my staff are really kept people you know they can leave him all day. But i like things that can feel guilt. You know so. You're perfect with pairing cats. The don't feel a lot of guilt with lawyers. Let's natural marriage right so so we did under in the great mystery show. I voted hall to the mystery. Mysterious cats are going back. Deal gypped over thinking they were gods. But what's interesting is is the biology and that they evolved a particular parasite called talk so less most gandhi talks. Oh bless most is gone really important. This is going to help you for this nightly whiplash aspect of lawyers and So what it is is when they when you know they. The the parasite comes out in there. So if they're in alleys they can appeal over. And then the rats that ingest food which has this and the end the parasite enters their body instead of running away from cats to save their lives. They fell in love in. Google is with with the just eat. The mice eat the rats easily so it was kind of an evolutionary helper that evolved. And what's interesting is that People who have cats and who are less than you know. Clean clean with them often. They will get taco. Plus moses gone the so. I did the mystery of the of the cat ladies Hundred and twenty seven cats in their eaten dog but everything for their guts and there is this thing they even think that it causes gets is a undermine. 'cause one of the causes of schizophrenia. So look taco plus moses gandhi and so in that cool. That's that's given me an idea because one of the things. I'm having trouble with. Because i want to do the way i ended in. Who thought i would be talking about. This way. I ended the first installment was They decided to close down a law firm and all of this stuff but they wanna be. They want to go into this for themselves in the like fried is working for a law for you. So i want the first case to have something to garfield and as what. It'd be like a guy who only kills mondays. Mondays at i did it air. It's ridiculous but what it in there. So i think maybe having that talks. Oh plus gandhi. Gandhi would be interesting way because we've already introduced rats and here is like they own a company. So i can have that in there and is in here is now down to papers. So thank you for that. I'm using back because you can have them like when they do a client pitch that the ford they send them like a goodwill gift of chocolates you to her whatever break and they're hanging on every word so there you go but it's actually based in fact somebody i'm gonna use. I don't wanna use it that's going to affect with. I'm gonna write this down. Because well i've already wrote down at piece but i i see it in my hand and it's that's i think that would be by the way my version of the dream. It's like a thing vigil is i- visualizing whatever it is like they were when i was younger. I do like spelling bees and things like that and it's be always being the biggest kid in your class. It's very hard to hide so six four. That's good height actually. So it's hard to hide so i need i'm gonna be in front of this. I'm not going to be missed. And so on so. I needed to start doing this. Visualization in my head as to this is going to go well. I'm going to be really good at this. And it extends to these other things namely these creative things that i I try to. I try to do so. Well in the juicers if you got it wanted your got really poco. Thank you so. I can touch childhood a little bit there for myself. So do you have any advice. You would give the that you have now that you would give your younger self. Maybe when you get started or maybe even like know early test. That's really. i heard tom. Hanks said this said he said a plus you know. But i would say. Dennis is because once you know y'all gonna get that one set of adult teeth and if they mess it up you're you're in trouble for edberg you know so that i would say Probably i don't know because i haven't matured very much Honestly here. I am sixty eight. And but i read things i wrote. I had a very unusual childhood. I got into college early. And instead went off to france without speaking french in never having taken an airplane And to study with marcel. Marceau in the only word like went with was cotton candy. Infringe Show you how young i was know which is father's eared varma papa. But my idealism was so strong from such an protector of people who were being bullied from earliest days. You know and. I don't really feel like i'm very different I guess we should have evolved. Were but i think you know. He came in. And i wanted to remember what i knew before i was born in this life and had wonderful parents but i still had to send so being connected to something else. So the museum is really about the station of anyth- everything that ever really moved me or touch me. I don't i. I don't go by trends. Ever i really beg a you know a creator every year New you know what is going to be needed. You know what people can walk in the door. What is the theme. I i should be doing. And then like clicks. I know that sounds funny. But so when i did. Holy fluid universe. We opened war class. Five storms than the indonesian. Sue nami the biggest ever recorded. Last week was katrina in new orleans. The whole year was about water stories. when i did The art of peace toward into hatred. Boom nine eleven. You know this. Is you have to decide. Well before you know it was always You know when. I did the parenting. Show an art without a manual. What happened headlines separation of children at the border from their families. So it's like but that wasn't happening. When i picked the theme so i'm over his alert When i'm supposed to do. And then i. It's scary because i got to put it together. They ask you know. I only have less than nine months. You know Which is very tight in the world of museums. They they were to win three years out and You know and now and then. I didn't realize it was the fiftieth anniversary of earth day. And we're keeping up because we don't have the money to switch it out but we have to be closed for six months 'cause kovic the secret life of earth. Shell is the largest science art show on climate change. The state of our earth anywhere is gorgeous and then the other show that i won a talked about the sleep show. The earth show is the ester show where juxtaposed what happened esther in her survival which is so sweetly. Told it's not like you. Know hollered is and stuff Juries that she did only for children not to get an museum thirty six a her tale of survival but so lovingly done with what happened in rwanda where he had people the same pigments skin but you have hutus an end to seize and what what what happened was that the hutu are me Actually engineer the plane crash of their own. Hutu president but to deflect guilt they said oh it was terrible you know data and so what happened. eight hundred thousand people human beings were mostly machete today in one hundred days in under thousand herbal in one hundred days and so i have that on what we did with the native americans what happened to matthew shepard You an the big headline is from cheri. Preston says evil begins when we begin to treat people as things either as sex objects or property or as a employees that could be discarded. You know like You know we don't have to worry about job conditions so it's such a truism you know it's like every evil can be traced back to win a human being you know thought of another as a thing. It is one of those things where you don't have to do too much work to get to that by the way like every now and again legs a lot of tv. A lot of stuff. They were watching in that. My girlfriend and i are watching and i. It's always when there's a show with like this occurs matic leader. It's always as you like. She was like why was it. Always someone has sex with you. You're running something in his. Maybe young girls involved. It's like why is it always. This is a prerequisite for your leadership and your touching dot or whatever the thing is and it's it's it's insane. There are some notable exceptions to that. But you're right. I that You know this is really interesting. This is a key for you. So what have we done we we. Every every year of pick theme that has had the power to impact human beings their behavior. For good and bad. But you okay. So it's been religion in all face beautiful from atheism to zoroastrianism respect for diversity of belief money a treasures of the soul. Who is who is rich You know so Religion money Government you know in the freedom show All sorts of these powerful things that have sway over our lives and the ideas that you realize these powerful things are never intrinsically good nor bad religion is all good you know government is all good. Money is in all good. Parenting is an all good. You know the subtitle that parenting an art without manual was the good the bad the horrific and the sublime right. You know it's like sometimes you're lucky getting a saint for parents you know and then sometimes you get predators even though they may have gone to harvard make. A lot of money played good tennis. Look good smell good. They can be the worst parent. You could ever nightmare. Come into so it was such an honest discussion on the essence. Like an agree. I try in our exhibitions to orchestrate. That everybody comes in and brings their life experience to the viewing. They're not just going. I like that. I don't like you know they're they're like you know a guided to think. What do you think about this and You know so. All of our. The great powers are never again intrinsically gordon ban but they magnify intention so we lay out. What is what is the issue. And then we throw at the feet of people kind of gauntlet of you know how be aware of how this impacts your life. I like to look certain things in it like these neutral to like this is this is a neutral thing like it's like okay. Cool this is neither good nor bad. The people that are in that spot. It's them. I try to use that as a way to make things more similar than different because we started getting into the weeds of. Oh this is related to these people in this position. Let's just say white men in this position they are inherently this. I don't know that. But i know that the role that they may be in tends to bring these traits out and people like if they're in his power position ernest top role. That's like oh well. I feel like i should have have this. I was like if you start replacing people and say okay. Let's say black. Women are in that role moving forward then. Those same traits may come out of black women. We don't know we don't see generally because that's how this thing has been structured but i think it's more so the circumstance necessarily the person i try to look for the humanism. Or you get a clarence thomas. You know you get someone who you know like so that's why it is never a case The only monday from the very beginning that we would ever stay open was dr martin luther king day and we make the stooge thing we were crap. We attracted a five thousand. People was always free that day. Because i was so upset that dr king's day we were celebrating his life in his vision with like discounts on washing machines bras right. That's it so we would try to put on something and more and more people came. It was amazing course with covid. All this stuff is is changed but You know we'll get back there again but You know the thing is is to always be mining. Which i think is what you've done your with your whole life of what's what's really being said. Here what is really valuable and then having the enthusiasm to say. Oh my gosh. Don't miss this because you can get very you know Would you kind of just critical and feel like oh. I've done my part. I've said this and so it's great to be with people who who see some magic beauty and importance in even the small things and command defy that and i'm hoping that our city i couldn't tell you we honored do ernestine. Shepherd is go my god. She's the world's our oldest of builder and she's got a body like a twenty two year. Old would beg for. I mean literally. I've been with her. It's not in an photoshop or something and she's also very feminine really beautiful and she didn't start working out to she was sixty and and she's as lovely inside his out and i. I was really upset. Because i you know she. She would make to a reverend who has passed away and she. She does teach you know and she lived like a one arm of a push. She's just exquisite and she wears like a body suit like they would start records on the every little muscle ripple. And i thought why isn't why is in What's under armor. But with a in particular because i thought my crush. What's his name the actor Old she was in wrestling the all the rock the rock i yeah they earn would fall in love with ernestine. Because how can you not. I mean she's just google and look at her pictures and stuff struggles every day and she's a treasure. We should have embraced from the beginning. You know so You know. I i really tried to look for both in history. Like who the really brave people who bought some good And we'll talk war. You know at another item but I'm so glad to know you to meet you this way and wish she is. He's been great. You know just every unexpected joy and ease you get to do your best self. You know. I appreciate with the girlfriend. We'll see we'll see what happens there. Museum been one one. One of my friends. I did my morning. Cardio walk with. I've mentioned that interview is coming up. I was looking forward to it. I was a little nervous and she was just like i love that place. What mike protects me She's like so. I was an interview. Look at like can't wait to hear it. Owns more pressure and part of it is. I was like all of these. Podcasts are a service to us. What do you mean i was like. I'm just interviewing places. You like it. this so is like i've had Had the owner from greedy reads on not too long ago and the owner from be willow. Not too long ago. 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Who Is Your Relationship Role Model?

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Who Is Your Relationship Role Model?

"Rainy you what read your world show radio show go there. Let me thank you for having me on your show so often to be here with you and all your listeners would choke over here jersey utah. Nineteen don't screw. Scores coup women are down for it per se. This is a show that people today opinion by saying well. It's why why. I am woman. But i'm not anti man. I know the value was going on people whole right. I want to welcome all you to the tenth birthday celebration of the talk radio. Show my name's quincy in. This is my show and you know ten years ago. Today i dropped a fifteen minute rant from our very first episode. it was a relationship topic. The show was horrible. I mean i. I was so low and babylon about how people approach relationships or whatever and i had been listening to talk shows for about fifteen years prior to ever having my first show. I used to listen to jim. Rome dr laura schlessinger dave ramsey just to name a few. I always wanted the opportunity to give it a try and thanks to the evolution of the internet. I got a chance back in two thousand eleven idea to show just to cross off a bucket list item of mine. I wanted to officially say that was a talk show host. But i kept going and people kept noticing and at one point i was getting almost two thousand listens per week two thousand thirteen and fourteen however i got excuse me. I got obsessed with the statistics and i worked harder and harder and it stopped being fun sorting through guest requests emails or soliciting sponsors became thirty hour per week job and over time. I got burnt out and in february of two thousand eighteen. I called it quits. The show that love became more work than it was fun. So i stayed away for two years but i got the issue again in late. Two thousand nineteen. I started reaching out to my show legends and telling them that i was thinking about coming back in a limited capacity. They had my back so in february. Two thousand twenty. The show was back. And i made a promise that i win over work myself. This time. i said that. I would keep it fun and not worry about anything else. Investors xactly what. I've done and i want to thank all of you for being a part of whether you were here for episode one or you just got on board with episode nine hundred and twelve. Thank you very much. And i hate getting istan this week. Kind of prevented me from going out to buy party hat for the show. Alphabetical though birthday. Had but i was i stand. I couldn't leave my house for a week so this hat would have to do so. I hope this works but enough about that less habash. Oh let me go and see who is here. let me go to. The golden state of california to welcome on. Miss tire was born on. What's up here. How are you thank you for having me on the show yet again and no everybody. Thank you for joining. I appreciate and let's see. Let me go to the pelicans state of louisiana and welcome on ms erica. Erica would do. Hey hey hey thank you for having me back in happy birthday thank you. Thank you and let me go. Why actually what is brothers from. I should have asked him. Let me bring up man coach. Dare derek what's going on mcmahon where you located. I can't hear you. Immediately out of maryland close. Dmv okay okay. Dmv birthday to the show. Thank you thank you much obliged much obliged then of course i have my shoulders. I got a couple of shoulders. I need to bring on. So let me start with this from a two four eight area code the motor city of detroit. Welcome on the author he show hostess show legend dickerson today. A q. how are you. Hey krystal and congratulations on your ten year. I haven't been around that long. Because i don't think it was born ten years ago You were on in your one. Were there you lie. You lie all right. And i have another show leading. Who was on year one so let me go to this breath. From the eighth found zero area. He emroe coastline of florida making his way to the ring the man in black so boxster but was going on knbr. Everybody does tonight doorway man. How you dr outstanding Glad to be here. Utn right no it so at throws this little festive background there. Okay okay. they already popping in the chat room. Hey chamara was throwing out a man j. b. china nia patrice o'neal reference. Okay okay so we will go ahead and kick this thing off. we're talking about. Who is your relationship. Role model are right now. the twenty four zero laurie harvey from what i understand has been around a relationship with daddy. Trey songz memphis to pay future. And now michael b jordan. Some people think that she's just a woman living her life while others. Thank you know. They're kind of think negatively her escapades. So i thanks. I am erica. I will start with you. Is laurie harvey what you consider a relationship role model you know. So many women are saying goals referred to what she's doing should she be the goal for single women who i don't i wouldn't say you know the goal but i would say you know what she has done is what we've been preaching to women that you know. Single women should be doing is dating multiple people. Wear not your options. Dating does not mean having sex dating does not mean that you are committed to anybody. It means that you are collecting data to see who is the best fit for you and then go from there. I don't see anything wrong with what she has been doing. she has not come out of says she's been sleeping with these men so i don't see what the big deal is you immune q. Kaya what do you think. Do you think that these are goals for single women I actually agree with what erica said. I think that especially young women coming up any to just cultivate that. It's okay to date and like she said it doesn't always mean sleeping with someone or you know. Doing god knows what god knows who like everybody thinks it is. Sometimes it's just more about like being able to understand. You have options. There are a lot of fish in the sea. Should not limit yourself or You know what you're doing our options p eric. So let's see. Let me go to to to derek on this endemic. I mean is she living the life. That a lotta ladies wished to live you know not necessarily about dating a lot of famous guys but not being afraid of how it looks today. So many men. Well i feel like now like in this era that we live in now. The only difference between her and a lot of women is who she's dating. I i think this happens more often than we like to think. But she's just in the public eye so it looks it looks away because of who he's with but How many people do we know that dated multiple people every time you see them like this is the new person they should be People should be allowed to do that as long as you know that. They're not harming anybody go to do what you do and so crystal let me go to. You isn't what she's doing is what people want scout dating back in the day. i mean. aren't you supposed to try different types in you know maybe you make a mistake or two but you keep going until you find the right person for him. Well that has always been my goal. I like the data's many motherfuckers as i can. But you know lori is. She's twenty five. She's twenty four. Excuse me years old. Jesus christ what the hell was i doing. Twenty four hours probably fucking. Everybody i could. So and what's wrong with that. She's twenty four. I mean yes. She snagged a nice one. Gay and you know. And he is amazing and we all love him and you know i've i've dreamed about him on a few times. But that's that's another story but he's amazing but again she's four okay. She's gonna going on as far as you know her her dad and different things but she's supposed to be this would just be doing. You're your early to mid twenties. You're supposed to be experimenting with different people. Different men women. Whatever you wanna do and you're supposed to be trying to figure out who. Who am i and who are they. Should i be with this person you know. And then when you get towards your twenty seven twenty eight thirty role then you start thinking about okay. I need to settle down. But this is just twenty. Four jesus christ my youngest when he four g. What the hell i mean. I don't see what the problem is. You know to be talking about. Oji sleeping with all these men. You don't know what she's doing behind closed doors number one and number two. He's twenty four. Who gives a shit. And she's gorgeous woman and she's entrepreneur. She's doing her thing. Who knows that. This is michael jordan Last who knows. Peter whatever the hell his initial list but cares. Be whatever you know. he's fine. Who cares what the hell's name is. So so what. S what. I'm saying i mean is i'm not a role model. Okay so but i'm just saying desperately supposed to doing your twenty s you to explore and experiment and learn about yourself. That's all right but let me get a guy's opinion on this i mean. Isn't that just dating date. Multiple people try to figure out which one works for us. Abso fucking lutely. I mean that's what you're supposed to do you spend a day and you that young or if you're starting over you need to date a few people figure out you know what you liked because your tastes change your needs change. So i mean her. Being twenty four. Shouldn't matter. I mean get out there day many people you need today and find that person debt fitch your style. Don't settle the five who what fits you. And that's all that really matters so i don't think thing wrong with it. I mean i think that I really don't say anything her doing anything that a lot of women in the world are doing. I mean the average woman is just not in the public eye loria so we don't know what people are doing. The only thing is that we happen to know her business. Because she's a celebrity. But eric i gotta go back to you on this one. What about lou busey's comment you know. He said that the man who have been with her should be given credit for knocking down a good looking woman instead of her. Get into credit for being with prominent man. He also added that he would never wife her but he was sleeper. If he had the chance so eric how do you feel about his statements. I mean is he perpetuating the mindset that men are to be praised for multiple women and that women are to be denigrated for multiple mia definitely. He's an idiot. he's mad because he could never ever have a chance with a woman like that He's got five baby mamas and kids all over the place in women all over the place and he has the nerve to even speak on this girl in her dating habits on he needs to get some dating habits so he's ignorant in. I don't even wanna talk about you. Wish he would tell us how you really felt. What do you think about a derek from a guy's perspective what do you. How do you feel about his statement. I think statement father with the double standards. we've had all our lives At this point you know it to me. I'm not in the business of assigning points to people what they too but You know you gotta gotta consider the source. We know what to put his life on on camera. You know it well. It is on camera. We we know a little bit about him in he to win to be listening to but i can't say he's alone and how he thinks a lot of men that they you know like that so Right or wrong people just going to do what they do. You got that and kaia. He pretty much said that anyone who wipe sir is a simple you know. He didn't mention michael b jordan. By name but you can. You can connect the dots In the black community younger male celebrities appeared to get shamed for publicly displaying. Their love for women. no one does it to obama. Orden's zale but the younger guys like michael jordan nor russell wilson get dragged on social media daily. So why do you think that. So many men view russell wilson or someone like him as a sip for saying in showing how he feels about his woman I'm gonna be little cliche with this as a little bit of that at toxic masculinity so much but You just have a lot of people that are always going to have something to say about what somebody else is doing. And i feel like if you are happy individual and you are happy with your person you know male or female but to female in that regard fill like why would you not. Do you know what i mean. I it wrestles and seems to be very happy. He's making a lot of my his bills or pay for him so at the end of the day. It doesn't really matter. You know what. I mean what these people think. I think a lot of the time. It's just people being jealous people wishing that they were able to do some stuff that a lot of these other people do wish that they had the capacity to open their heart open. Actually show love like that. They just don't know how so they put it as like. Oh you're a sip just because you do that. This is nice if they wish they could get to that point they just can't i got you. I got you and buck. What do you think man. How do you feel about people. Dragging russell. wilson threw dirt or talking badly about michael jordan simply because they act. They love the women that there with people oftentimes just they. They just hate them because they're not the same situation and they say derogatory things about these people because they're in they're in the limelight. They're getting me stars and they wish they could be in all honesty. They wished they could be in that same spot. So i don't really put much thought a much time wasting time in the what somebody else says this derogatory For some of these guys in the position that they're in it just doesn't make sense. I gotcha gotcha okay. I'm cracking up on each show. Charmian under the name. Ap jackson adult prompt jackson. She her regular counseling facebook jay so she signed me. It's the where else her comments. Oh man a crystal. I'll let you tag in on that as far as how How do you think it. Why do you think people make fun of russell. Wilson guys like that when they're just trying to be good husbands and good day is well. I would say that I agree with buck that you know. It's it is a lot of hate you know regarding men to men because when men well i can only speculate but when they talk to each other they love the high five each other on their conquest. It's not much of a conquest if you're giving into the girl so So i think that's where that comes from but real men don't care about that they don't care about what anybody else is saying their friends their whatever they are with the person that they wanna be with and they want to show her that they love her and that they care about her and especially if she has a child they wanna give love to that child because it is a package deal and Sierras a beautiful woman and you know she has gone through a lot. You know in her career aka fifty cent but You cross him you you your ghost. Basically you know actually but you know it's like you know. He saw her for who she was. He didn't judge her. Obviously and i think it's beautiful. I think you know it's just just beautiful is love. You know. I'm gonna be there for you and every woman wants that in every man is i would say a lot of men are afraid of that especially black men. They're really super afraid of being controlled by black women so they tend to do things that are that are contradictory to love into to what real love is and what real family is and in because they're afraid or whatever but that's just my opinion but i you know i when he first came out. I was just thinking when they came out as a couple. I was like good to use the era. Yeah get the nerd can get him. Get the guy that you know. You're not that sexy but he's you know he's attractive but then again you know you see you know as time went on you know. He just kind of ignored all that and he was there for her so i. I applaud that an ipod. Both of them for being who they are. So the yeah. They're just hating child. You nine you hear back there. What are your nine two. I just i just totally agree with crystal. She's absolutely right a lot of times. People are just afraid. You know what i mean they. They do wish that they could have that. Like i mean at the end of the day. You really think that russell wilson cares what he thinks like. Do we really think that. Michael during cares what roussy has to say not to be mean but lucy interview that he wished he would have messed with all when woman he was like. I wish all my kids weren't separated and moved all over the place i do. Wish would've just had one person so like even in hindsight as a grown man he realizes that to some degree that he loves his children but that that created a strife among his whole family you unit. He still loves them dearly. I'm sure from what he says. But you know what i mean like. Everybody can pick away at. Somebody's life that they really want to. But michael jordan and laura very happy to me are now i was on. Isa's page the other day. And she asks her female facebook friends if they would rather date someone like future. Or someone like russell wilson and all of them at the time that i looked set russell wilson and they're gonna go to you. Get a guys perspective. Do you think they would be an honest. Because i asked you a lot of women. Dues remind me of future. Well i'm i'm a sadist It's a couple layers to this right. You'll see women who will date future but even the ones who data future wishes that future treat them like russell wilson that makes sense so at the underneath at all no matter how much of a woman that wants the bag guy they all wanna be loved they all want some might have the back. Future may not be the prize. He may not be that guy because he got a whole bunch of other stuff going on. But the russell wilson treatment is always the go. Leave it from throat. Okay okay and that makes a lot of sense to me. And what do you think about that erica. Do you think that when women say they really wanna russell do believe them or do they secretly want a future and they're just trying to say they like russell simply because all social media. I believe them because not too many women are will high. What type of me that they are attracted to. What type of me they want when i was in my twenties. Yeah a future was something that i want it because i was young and naive in still thought that was exciting and i was taught seeking was dysfunction. I grew up and learned. What a man. How a man is really supposed to treat a woman of few couldn't touch me with a ten foot pole. Are you on mute. I am. I'm sorry i clicked about. Nothing happened wondering crystal talk about what you said in a chat room about the bag. Being a misnomer what you mean by that first of all you know i love bad guys i do. We all know that those who know me know that. And that's my downfall. But i i love bad guys because number one a dark man is the only man who can truly understand me. So there's that number two is a lot of women want a man to protect them to you know in the middle of the night. Somebody's knocking at your door. You hear a sound you want that ning sitting next to you lying next to you to get up you stay here. Let me check this out. And he goes into the darkness and you hope he returns. But you're okay because you know he's gonna handle disability. Do whatever's coming now. A russell type you may be like. He's a nice guy to protect me in the middle of the night or he's going to protect me when you know somebody comes up to me in the club or in the streets. Is he going to be that kind of person who be like. Y'all hey step off whatever you know and so you you kinda worried about that. So that's kinda why a lot of women kinda shy away from a russell in the immediate part but when you get to know someone like russell quote unquote. You'll see that he's a man. He will protect you. He will be there for you but it takes a minute for you to learn that and unfortunately the bad guys quote unquote. You know that immediately. Now that's a that's a downside. Because he may be doing things to you as well okay may be using that aggressiveness or whatever towards you as towards you know the person coming after you so he may not be the best person to choose but immediately you may choose him. So that's i all. I've always said this years. And you know this queue you can probably pull it up on one of your you know your backlogs that women want a man who is who is a good guy who can also do. What a bad guy does you know. And that's et al protection. So i always told guys yet. You need to look at what. What a bank. I brings to the table. Your brings swagger. He's sexy he makes you. You know him so just do what he does but still be. You are gonna give you. You gotta be that both kind of people but his harvard in india that so whatever so here we are so in other words needs more like me. We won't get into the scorpio. Shit get into but when you kill a push why you my friend all right and you're not anything else because god dammit you scorpios like got save getting distinguished alive and so let's talk about you know relationship role models on a personal level and book. I'll go to you. Did you have a relationship role model in your young impressionable years. I don't know if i'd necessarily linked to romantic mean there will always people you know our looked up to my mom and my mom always talked highly. Even when my dad wasn't doing things that he should have been doing in my mom. Always you know to you know. Just she just said certain things and she was able to show not only me but my sister. Well how to you know. Be that loving one and not not be so quick to judge a lot of people in today's time. Don't really take the time you know. Everybody at-bat bat during a relationship. But you got to be able to navigate those rough water and people don't take time to navigate the waters they get caught up in a failed. You know next thing you know you wore. Favorites are going. You know at your doorstep so mama always taught you know you you got to be able to navigate. The waters flooding sometimes storms in relationships last awhile and sometimes you got to have some perseverance regardless to which of feelings may be and you know. My mom and dad actually type separated two times and they've been back together now since two thousand three and things have been you know really good between them since then they never divorced. So that's you know it shows that you know. Hang out sometimes. It's not necessarily is not the best solution but sometimes it may be best Okay and derek. What about you. Man was their relationship role. Model in your life and your younger years. That's well let's say this. I had parents that were together ahead. Grandparents were together So i had examples of what it looked like to be together at didn't necessarily have examples of how you work through it while you in. It had to figure that out the hard way. What about you erica. My relationship role model. When i was young growing note was my aunt my aunts and uncles that i saw You know in relationships. I was able to spend a lot of time at their houses. Because i didn't have that in my own home. My father was not there on. So i looked up to them as a relationship role model but as i grew up in start to you know hear more and more. They made it. Look good from the outside. But it wasn't as good as you know a lot of relationships for trade as what we should not get caught up in it you know. Look up to people relationship goals because we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. We just know what we see on outside. You got there right definitely right about that. So kyra isn't a good idea. To set relationship goes based on wet do their laws. No no not at all. I think that's very I don't know that's not year. I think that's very naive. it's great to. I think admire like positive things that you may see among celebrities that they do like if you see that you know the way that they communicate is very beautiful great. That's wonderful cultivate great communication within whatever relationship. You're in in that way. But i don't think you should ever just goals one couple completely because everybody has problems. Everybody has issues like there's not ever a relationship that's perfect it just doesn't exist. I think that to people who wanna make it work can do that but goals. You can't goals other people stuff. That's kind of. I think 'cause you just don't know what ups and downs and ticks. They might have would be so triggering to you that you're thinking this goals but it's not that person does knows how to deal with it. You know crystal. How do you feel about people based on their goals relationship wise or having released shit role models who are celebrities. Well you know I have to agree with the last two lovely ladies who spoke you know you can't you can't truly know another person or their relationship because you're not behind those closed doors. Okay even if you are their best friend their mom their family or whatever. You don't know what happens when they close the doors and go home or go into their bedroom or whatever and they talk about what just happened or you know the next time. We're with your mom. Then you're gonna treat me this way or we're going to act like this or whatever because who you truly are is between the two of them the best your best goals your goals should be. How am i going to treat myself and can this man or woman. Make me feel good about who i am. Can i be truly who i am in all of my flaws and all of my craziness and all of my beauty with them. Can i show them who i am. Do i have to pretend. I've been on a lot of relationships. Where i actually went especially when i got out of it. Look back and go wow. I really wasn't who i was. Who i truly am with with him even though i loved him and i cared about him but i wasn't meet with him. I was trying to be what he wanted me to be and vice versa. With men you know so yeah your goal should be. I am who i am. And i want someone to appreciate love. Honor whatever who. I am and vice versa. So that's that should always be your goal and if your celebrity crush celebrity power couple in your eyes in exude. That then great. Yeah make that a goal quote unquote. Because you're what you're really making. A goal is a fantasy because i'm sorry guys but beyond say in jay z. Are you know. They're getting in behind closed. Doors you motherfucker. What the fuck just happened. okay. I don't give a fuck if you don't like my sister and not does what's going to happen from now. The motherfucker on. I mean you know what i'm saying. I mean you'd think that they had a great relationship when you know launch at the fucking go off on his ass in the elevator. That's not a good relationship. That's shit between behind closed. Doors that they know about so you know everybody has problems is is one young lady was saying everybody has problems. Everybody has issue so you really can't focus on the celebrity. You have to focus on yourself. What do i want. And what does he give me. And if that's not it then guess what. Maybe i need to be by myself for a little bit work on myself in. Hopefully next high will be the guy for me. Sounds good to me so all right so before. We get ready to start wrapping things that wants to talk about. What's coming up over the next week. On t to q as i get into year ten Carey thomas joins the show and on tuesday and we will talk about independent women in their struggle. Sedate successfully will talk about how some men struggled to understand those women. So that's going to be tuesday. And then on saturday. I got an early show. 'cause i'm east coast thing on saturday. Jacqueline macintosh Join me to discuss how you can put together that ill see and get your side hustle on. We're talking multiple streams of income in the right way to do it. So that's going to be next saturday and this one. I really look forward to it. Was supposed to be tomorrow. But i had to reschedule due to the three day power outage. I had this weekend from the outdoor from the ice storm. But i look forward to sip and intrepid with the treeline wife. She's a very popular wine connoisseur from instagram and she'll talk relationships with me as well as educate me on why we will have a wine tasting on the air and says by history The product would be from black owned wineries so it should be a lot of 'cause. I know nothing about wine. So that's gonna be kinda new for me and all right. I have to take a quick commercial break because my dog peanut needs to get outside so i will be back in two minutes and twenty seconds and we will have our final thoughts. Hi everyone i'm wishing yellow resume cheese Crap providing to market your weird to the next level we do resume cover letters. Thank you letter interview. Prep preposition critiques. Linnart employment verification any type of written context. I'm your girl. Resume resume chic l l c dot org on facebook on resume l. c. on instagram. I'm underscore with guilt. Healthy hopes to talk to you soon. You can order dominos pizza. Go out and buy gun. Come back and beat your pizza to your house. I think there's something wrong with that. I think the system is messed up. If we're able to do that the hardworking podcast a little bit of cars and so much more available wherever you typically download your podcasts yet. Some of the talk to q radio show. This is girl. Erica warne from the dope. Discussions with a podcast. You can find my podcast on all major listening platforms like i. Heart radio spotify. Google podcasts and apple podcasts. You can also follow me on instagram at e. underscore class one hundred now enjoyed the show. You go out and bang. You know back in my day if i if i went out and got some money you know. Get fame's whereby thousand chicks. And the next day i said i'm going. You know one woman man. It's all cool. You let your daughter go out and gang banged or whatever she can turn around and be a Go to become a nun. That's on which are used for man and you know i don't know why the world don't want it. It's a different rules but let kids do that if you wanted to. When i here's what you say. Don't be wrong. Slates we'll get a mess Skis doggone emma. Now as we're talk double standards ten years ago and emma. No he He of size on our little busey a little bit. Yes so all right. We'll get ready to do our final thoughts and let's see. I will go from top to bottom. I will start with ms vine talia your final thoughts on the evening. Mail your meat one guy and also what while you're added go ahead and plug the show. Why enter okay. Well hello everybody. First of all my name is kyle or vodka as she got here. I am a podcast. I host the eyes wide open podcasts. Who are talk. About my spiritual journey. And life experiences i have testimonies of other people at cetera and aside from podcasting. I also am a tarot card reader. I've close collective reads on my youtube channel. The eyes wide open podcast channel and also offer astrological spiritual advice and assistance to those who may need it by way of mine through an oracle cards. So after all of that my final thoughts were the show here. You are amazing. I i mean just having in the short time that i've known you. Congratulations to having built forum. That you've built on. You are always pushing others in so it's only fitting that you know you're back. I'm glad that you're back. I know that you at the second. Go around but must have been important. Because i've learned a lot from you and seventy opportunities but with regards to relationship ladies while my ladies enjoy life do your thing i would say. Don't listen to what other people have to say about how you wanna live your life no matter what you do is live your life for yourself. if you're young men out there who enjoy treating a lady nice continue with that you will be chosen at some point. I promise that you will get chosen. Watch happens every time you choose. Wisely okay are thank you very much man. I appreciate the kind words. Always a pleasure having you on. I'm definitely glad our paths cross. And i will go to erica money. Show your thoughts. Well y'all could check me out on dope discussions with erica every sunday. Six thirty central standard time live from to instagram or our facebook page in my final thoughts for the show is always a pleasure to be here with q. On the top q radio show they for having me on your birthday addition for you ladies out there who are single and dating. Don't fold under the pressure of society that tells you you look like a whole or you know look like a slut dating you know different made multiple men as long as you keep it classy and you all your options. Don't let people tell you that you got to settle that. You don't have options. We have just as many options as these men out. Here and we don't wanna get stuck with the dud so yes do multiple dating on way out your options collect that data on those dudes and then move onto the knicks. Once you find out he's ability. Nfl herat thank you very much. I appreciate that and derek. I go to plug show. We'll give you all right well. I'm derek jones host of the relationship gumbo podcast and live every wednesday eight pm. I'm a certified life from relationship coaches. Well so i do a little bit of coaching. A little bit of you know we have some fun and we heal at the same time so as far as the show Congratulations on on the ten year. Birthday my first time is on the birthday show. So kind of special as far as Final dos about about the show tonight. it's really Lesson in self awareness about yourself in all of the stuff that you see on tv even you know in your own family around the world that pressure of sometimes causes you to make decisions in have relationship goals that you probably shouldn't have and my rule of thumb just my life lesson for this mostly. Everything i do is no matter. What pressure you have. If you've achieved happiness you one whatever that means to you if you've achieve hacking this you're doing you're doing the right thing. So that's all. I get all right. Satellite words of wisdom to me and i'm going to skip over to the boxster boxster. Shut it down for man and give me your thoughts. you know. it's been amazing. Ride you know being on the show for ten years Just pretty awesome now at the time. Did you start the show going through some things but at the same time it was cool to join the show and be a part of it starting out. They got started out on on the sports. Show i which that's one thing. A lot of people don't know that you kept doing the sports show during your highness which was pretty cool and You know dan bring it back. You know just like it's amazing. The seeing how the growth and development of everything to go through in doing this in a lot of fun and I enjoy doing is something that look forward to every week simply because you learn something even if it's something that you don't necessarily wanna talk about somebody may bring it up. You don't even know that they're bringing it up and you learn something from that from you know individuals that joined the show in. This is just really awesome. It vary educational with even though we do it in a fun format but it's been a great ride now as far as the relationships and women women you make your choices you do. Y'all need to do what you need to do. I mean don't let the pressures of society make your choices for. You're your own person. Make your choice guys same way but you gotta make smart choices. You gotta be able to pick and choose do multiple things in scene baltimore people until you find out what you like and then go from there. I mean that's that's what you're supposed to be doing in the first light but great show. We can do another team so really enjoyed it tonight. All right thank you very much sir. I appreciate you but it's been around since you're one and i will go to crystal to shut it down throws to has been around since year. One as well chris. Oh plug what you do and give your final thoughts loose okay. Well thank you first of all. Congratulations cue for continuously and consistently doing your thing for ten years and I'm happy to be here. Happy to be one of the. I guess year one. I think i thought you guys are already established my time. I got there because i was attacked. So much You know. I was like oh my god but i didn't care i you know i was one of the only females in a few others but you know up. Some reason guys attacked me. I way you know but You can find me a crystal hickerson at c. r. y. s. t. a. l. hickerson dot com I'm also in youtube at saint incre so higginson and you can also find my My movie analysis in review Page which is or kennel. Which is the movie buffer. So i love doing that. Because i am a movie. Buffer s. That's one of the things that i am but You know. I love being on the show and i you know when i first started. I will say this. Whenever started with with q. He was a a recommendation from a friend of mine from robin. Who left me move to california for some god knows reason about you know and she was like i think he was like this show. Yeah i think this would be good. And so. When i came on i was like. Yeah this is pretty cool. You know everybody hates me. But this is great. I love it. You know and And i just. I just been here ever since because you know everybody's fun in its it's good topics in q. Is such a great mediator to all of our different craziness. So that's why. I love being a legend in. I was honored to become a legend from q so that was cool. But yeah i love the show i all i have my own show called the crystal show which is basically still going on. I'm taking a kind of a hiatus trying to figure out what i'm gonna do changing the show actually in what i speak on but Yeah the crystal show is still out there and everything for people to listen to but but you know it's it's a journey and i'm so happy and honored to have been part of the journey of the talk radio show. It's a great show. And i hope it continues with much success which it seems. It has so so. Thank you for even allowing such a man hater. Like myself to be a part of of you testosterone overlords Thank you for welcoming me So yeah tom sugar plum god out what you know first of all. Thank you for the sugar plum. I've accepted that and mean buck are kind of in a relationship right now because we played pool together virtual on facebook and i totally love it. I do upraising but anyway thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I definitely appreciated. Everyone is always a lot of fun. Getting a bunch of people together to talk about the show discuss the show on a good stuff. So that's that's always really cool to get the different perspectives of people that i respect and admire. And i'm glad that you able to join this. For what is year number ten. So i mean wiles is kind of hard to believe that has been that long but now more. Thank you for making this birthday party special. 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How to Make a Living Doing What You Love with Pete Correale

The Thaducation Podcast

48:47 min | 2 years ago

How to Make a Living Doing What You Love with Pete Correale

"Yeah. So this week on the show. Have one of my favorite clients and think friend is well, Pete Corey he should you know, if you haven't heard of than we've been, but I've been huge fan of Pete for ages. He's one the most sessile stunned ups the moment and he runs a fantastic pocus with Sebastian Maniscalco. And that's how I I came across what he was doing as I said, I've been a massive fan of Pete and his work. And I'm fortunate enough to have the opportunity, you know, to what together the reason why I wanted to get on is. I think he's a professional office field. He's been massively successful in what he does. But I've always been slightly curious because I think being a stand up is the hardest jobs in the world typically because long hours you have to be constantly inventing, new material. And you don't have this protection of team of people to go back to and seeing. He's like I said done this consistency for his whole career and made a success of it. I think there's going to be lots that he can share with the group that will be full Advani. So thank you for coming on Pete. Thank you for having me that you're in. You're right. I was saying we are we going beyond professional French and gone into regular friendship. Absolutely. I appreciate you have here. And I'm looking forward to getting into this. You know, for anyone that really wants to know what it's like to do what I do and become, you know, because usually when we do any kind of an interview of any capacity, you know, it's like literally if you interviewing a clown and the clown didn't feel like juggle, and you'd be like fucking juggled, please. So, you know, we're always expected to be funny all the time, whereas in this environment here, it's nice to be able to explain everything to yet. That's I've heard that's the nightmare, isn't it? So it's kind of you do breakfast TV. And it's like soak, you know, be funny. And it's like, okay, tell me. Big little now, that's not how my comedy works. But. Well, you know, it's like it's funny because on one hand you do feel like that. But we have all you included. Right. We watch TV shows and stuff. And when you see when you favorite comedians come on. And he's not being funny for a moment. Come on funny. Like you. That's what you want. It's you could have rockstar come on and doing interview, and you're not gonna yell at the TV saying, yes. Yeah. But with us there's always even like when I got my first big show where to possibly have my own sitcom, I did the stand up show a festival, and I did really well call the Montreal comedy festival. Have it every year, and it's for the industry to come out and supposed to be a celebration of comedy. But it becomes more of who's who and who's here and who's making deals so there's a big show there, and I did really great. And then I had to go out to Los Angeles. Because all the big TV networks in America were interested in possibly making my show. So I said to my manager. Okay. So when I. Go into these meetings. You know, would just gonna talk and see if it worked out, and they go we'll know you gotta go in there. And you got to kill in the meeting. You gotta be really funny as funny as you can be you need to show them. How funny you are. And why they would wanna do TV show with you. And I go isn't that what we did it Montreal? Like didn't. We just do that I killed there and they go. This guy's funny. Bring them over. But no, even in the meeting, you still have to be funny. It's like, it's just bizarre me. So yeah, there is never an off switch. It seems from comedians yet also with musicians have that thing of they just play the hits. So it's kind of just doing if you I've never known a comedian who can get away with the same twenty jokes for years. And that's it. It's like you have to constantly might be funny. But it's always something news surprise me. Every time. Yeah. Yeah. You really do. But even that becomes libary slow 'cause I've over the past years at finally gotten to the point where people come back to. See me. Oh when I thought at the headline on the road. It was just a comedy club with book me and the comedy club new. Nobody knew me. So they would just try to get people to come out to the show and they'd go. Whoa. This guy's pretty good. We saw good show. But now it's gotten to the point with people come to the clubs gonna play. They come out of the way, people L. He's back in town. Let me go see him. So to your point you like man, I need new stuff. I need new stuff. And then what happens? I can't tell you. How much has happened? You get off stage one personal home up to and go. Oh, what a great show. I love all the new stuff. But man, I was really hoping you do that bread bid. I brought my whole family. We've been talking about that. And I would have loved to see that again. And you go sorry. And then the next show you bread bit. And a guy comes up to you and goes sort of bread bit again still love that bit. But the news was great. It was you did more of that. So I still haven't found the balance. Yes. Veggie maniscalco. Yeah. My buddy Sebastian as you know, that from the podcast even much more success than me right now selling everywhere, I asked him, and this is kind of how sometimes comedians get advice. And he said, well, I as Jerry, and Jerry Seinfeld said the most important thing is to do what you're going to enjoy doing on that stage because of you enjoying yourself. Then no one's going to enjoy themselves. So if it's you know, usually that means your best stuff. So then summation said that he tends to goes. I do that. I do what I enjoy doing. What I wanna do? But I also try to get at least twenty minutes. That's about what I've been doing. Now, usually give them about twenty five to thirty minutes. But I make sure I give them a solid, you know, twenty minutes of old stuff. But the stuff that I particularly wanna do now Brian Regan another fantastic American stand up comedian who's just like literally one of the top ten probably all kind. I open for him. Mm sometimes and what he does kind of need is he'll do all new stuff. Right. And they all love it. And then me being see I come back out go how about Brian Regan. They all pause. And then I go, hey, would you like to see a little more about a little more? I make it seem like it was my idea. But meanwhile, it's totally plan. Regan's off to the side sipping water, and then he comes out and the next site five to ten minutes. They just yell out old bits of his that they love and he'll do a couple of. But he does all old stuff that only at the end for the encore. I'm afraid I'll come up for an awful, and I'll go you guys want is. Now, they go. I don't even remember it. Crise point of view when was it that you kind of started to fold into comedy. And did you have sort of a career that you in? Maybe you hated and you left to do this. How did that will come about comedies pretty much? All I have did. But when I was a kid like that was an architect. My mom was a schoolteacher at a really normal, childhood, great, childhood and only thing would comedy was really into it. But so is my brother, and seemingly my friends? So like, you know, we would get, you know, whatever committee came on the TV. We will always watch all we we yell out in house comedian comedian because they weren't on a lot. And then like Eddie Murphy came on the scene when I was a kid. I remember playing his albums, and they were dirty, and then he got older and dice came around, and we all love dice. And so I've always appreciated comedy. And the first time I really started to see beyond just stand up when I was in high school one time, and we went out to drink. Mm beers. Like, we always do me and some friends was raining. So there was no parties or anything. So I said let's just go to a record store will buy CDs of time goal by comedy album. And we'll just sit in the Dotson will smoke pot and drink beer. So we bought Steven Wright and his first albums goal. I have a pony is joke where he says my apartment allows you to have pets. I have opponent. You know, his his dry sense of humor is so fantastic. And we listened to twice in the car will laughing so hard. But I remember thinking like man, this isn't just guys going up grabbing a Mike and just being funny. These these are like really well crafted jokes, so I loved comedy. But I just never thought of it is something I could do like I like my family. We raise with your medical benefits, get your college degree and all that. So I went to college where I was playing basketball division three no scholarship, and I had to take needed some extra credit. So I took this classical acting the non majors so. So the theater department at my school. But if you wanted to take an I think last without being a theater major you would take this. Another forget the first day acting class role sitting in a chess and this old guy had to be like eighty three eighty five comes wom. Lynnwood a cane, and he's like welcome to the class and your teacher professor will be here soon. And let me just tell you about the dedication of acting, and I'm like fuck is old guy and by the end of his monologue. He pulls off the beard and the glasses and everything, and it's the freaking acted teacher who's like mid any always a trained actor and just his way of saying, this is how powerful acting can be. I was like holy shit guy eighty three year old. So I enjoyed that class. But it really only made me wanna be movie star going to be a golden trying get into acting wanted to be movie so back to New York, and I got a job working front desk at a hotel, which I wanna got anyway, my sister were. In the hotel business. She's a big dog and she got me to job. It was just to live in the city and idea was try and be an actor. But I really wasn't doing anything. I was taking acting classes just got some headshots made go on these long or dish. In cattle Kohl's that you'd see in the paper. I mean, absolutely nothing going on. And then after like two years of mostly just working the front desk gonna hotel drinking a lot of beer and pretending. I'm trying to be an actor. I went on this edition where hooked up with these guys and gals that would doing an improv group what the hell recall, the BoomTown place. That was the name of interrupt improv group. They let me be a part of it. And you know, improv is what it is. And we've rehearsed and stuff, and then we did like three shows every show we did was at a terrible dump become e club in New York City, and we'd be on at like five o'clock in the afternoon comedy shows. Don't even start to like seven thirty we'd be on from five to six and the and become club. And the only people would be. There would be like all friends and family, and it'd be like ten people after the third one the third comedy club. Again, all my the guys they're all gonna go out with some beers. All the improv people, and I said to the owner of club. You know, if I pay for my beer, can I just sit here and watch the comedy show 'cause I saw some of the people coming in the comics coming in. And he's like, yes, sure. And telling you by the first comedian halfway through my Joa was dropped. I didn't think he was funny, but I just knew holy shit. I wanna do this. And then I went off to the side. We're all the comics were and you can hear them talk. And you're gonna do that bid tonight. You should add this, and they had no books, and I'm like well, look at these. They're all going over there. Shea on my God is and I was just so excited. It was like it was just love at first sight. I mean, absolute burning passion, and at all I want to do. And like the next day. I was finding open mics and for the next, you know, year, I would do open mic river it could work in. Desk at the hotel. I would be writing jokes at the desk. When alms looking pretending. I was filling out, you know, notes job stuff in about a year after do that this comedy club that I do. But Mike at the own said, you wanna mop my floors because the last guy who did it can't do it anymore, and you help out in the back be in the kitchen, you know, just like throwing gall Gile mop the floors, and I'll put you up every night on show last now just getting staged on was gold. So I had a college degree. But here I was mopping the floor and working for free just to get on stage every night and for like a year and a half. Nobody saw me. I didn't go hang out with any friends or anything. And I just did stand up stand up stand up, and I was terrible. But but I loved it, and I knew was growing slowly slowly know, and that's beginning of it. And I say all in detail like that. Because anyone out there listening that they always say what what do I do? I wanna be. A comedian will the most important thing is if you don't have that kind of passion, if you don't have that desire that I just explained then don't even bother because the only thing that is going to get you through so many times when it gets so dark and gloomy is the fact that you just love it so much that you just cannot imagine a life where you're not doing stand up comedy. And then if you feel that way about it, then you can listen on to mean fad about the rest. Interesting because you were saying what you'll see you Baines college. And your parents were obsessed with con of getting a stable sort of life health plan and all that and your sisters in a quote in the hotel industry did that adds to the pressure. Did you feel any pressure from them not directly from them? But did how was that bouncing that kind of probably should be getting a job ROY can build up in the land verses, but I just love this. And it's not paying well, it doesn't make sense. But I love it to my parents credit. They said just get a college degree. Once you have a college degree. My phone said, I don't care if you go dig ditches, do whatever you want. I just want you to have a college degree. So you have options, and then they had been supportive since day one when I did stand up. But what was interesting was I worked front desk seven in the morning till three at night three s to noon, right? Like five days a week. What I would do is after I got off at three o'clock. I go back to my ho- -partment my little dumpy apartment. Take a quick nap. And then had to beat the comedy club by six o'clock at night. And I'd be like twelve one in the morning. And then I go home get a little sleep and go back to the hotel. But I was doing my front desk job as doing that fine. So then about two and a half years into everything by GM, the hotel came up to me, and he's like we want offer you if you're interested the job of front desk night manager with that means I would come in at three o'clock at night in the afternoon, and I worked till midnight. But I'd get a huge raise in salary, and I would be in essence after five PM at night, the person in charge of the entire hotel this story. I mean, a thirty five story sky rise forestall hotel him in Hatton. And then, of course, my sister. My parents are like man if you do that. Well, the next thing could possibly be GM of a hotel. I'd quick you can go because they really look guys would charisma and women with charisma, it's not just the small. Person in the room a lot that goes on the hotel industry, and I seen somebody's GM's at the other hotel that we have a chain of there in the city these young guys, they get a free hotel room. They get to eat at the restaurant every night, someone of a single, you know, it's a really discount step in that world. Accidentally would could be nice. So I said, I'll take the job. And I knew I would only be able to stand up two nights a week because the other five nights, it'd be doing this. But whatever man I'll still do. We'll stand up. So that night, I went back home. When did some stand up the night, and I got back to my part? And again, I was still like three or four years away from making any money, like even fifty bucks. Do stand up. I wasn't doing pay Joe's at this point. But still I knew I loved so much as I can't do this man that went back the next day. You went into the GM's office. I said I'm sorry. I don't I'm gonna stay at my front desk job because. I don't I wanna keep trying to stand up. And if I take job I will. And he said, no problem, but in the future don't ever say, yes to something until the absolute sure, you know, because I have to reinterviewed people stuff like I'm so sorry. But I'm not kidding. You man about seven years ago. I was doing a sold out show New York City, and he was at the show, and he came up and he's like son of a bitch. I soul you specials. You some grave men. Remember that crossroads like, I can't believe you. Remember like hell, remember, you almost went the other way as like. Yeah. I know. Right. So again, it's just you gotta just go for I have a friend Judah free land that he was on thirty rock. He was like the guy I've seen American sitcoms with the beard yet. So he went to college to and what he did the stage time he would give out fliers down in Wall Street area to anyone walking by to come from whatever comedy club was working at like. It was the comic strip. So he the comic strip would have them. Go down there every day three hours and give out flyers. And then they put him on at night free. And he remembers he's telling me how like guys you went to college. It would come walk in by suits making great money. And here he is thirty jeans and a baseball cap given away fly is at lunchtime. And that like what are you doing do? But that's the that's what we do to get on stage. Because if you don't do that the only on the way, you can get on stage is if you bring ten paying customers to your show, and I mean shit. I I didn't I wasn't going to try and recruit friends I needed to go on every single night, man. So you're this interesting because I think when I that when I was getting into Pataki's ING uses thing of you had to keep saying no to the jobs that will g because you wanted to hold up. What you really wanted to do an the guy who was saying he said the same thing he said you own of your friends who get jobs, you'll be really downhearted because they'll be having a great time and ending money. But he said in a year. Year and a half. Would you've learned to do. Jayme job that we sick of this. And they'll be so jealous of us. You have to kind of stay the path and key coming and few to have the wherewithal to know that actually this hotel isn't this the hotel hierarchy isn't familiar to give the up when that's a huge opportunity is fantastic. And I say that somebody nice way to end it with the class. She telling when he shows and seeing yeah, Robert Colley isn't good guy, man. Using story. That's fantastic. And so you said he's very much about passion. It's very you've got to to love it. And you go to be ready committed. And it's kind of not logical when it comes to guess that thing of staying creative is always one thing. I mean, it's always a challenge. So come out with days things. How'd you stay crazy? What is it that you do even now to still generate out is? Yeah, this is interesting because you know, it's like anything else. This is what we're starting to talk about. Now is where the passion is one thing. But then if you don't stop to have the way seen guys love stand up more than anything, but they still Carol. So I respect that they keep doing it. But just loving it isn't enough. And this is kind of where I feel like I've gotten kind of exceeded is in writing as far as writing it's interesting because when you first start out yet, it's probably like a songwriter every time they try to write a song halfway through. They realize they writing some famous song and in their head that they realize. So as a comic, you, you know, you tend to like mimic guys that you particularly like like I did a little dice for while. And then I was doing Dave Chapelle for while. I didn't mean to I just admired them. It was watching them. And it's all happening shitty. Venues like don't be comedy clubs. Nobody say me, I'm not getting paid. It's you know to hold different world of comedy to beginning. And it's all part of the process. But one thing that really I always remember stuck out to me was comic. His name was Steve Marshall. And quite frankly, this guy's in gone. He hasn't really done much of anything. You know? It's not like, I'm Doug tell you story about. Oh, Jerry Seinfeld. Gave me the best piece of advice ever this guy. Steve offcial discount goes don't along the me of whatever he was hosting a show when I was mopping sweep into floors of the comedy club. I go I'm talking to for go on that night. And I go such a tough time. Steve coming up funny stuff. You know? I really don't know how to write. And he goes I love forget he goes get pen get a piece of paper. I just gotta bring up the next comedian now come back, and we'll talk to you. So he comes back, and he goes, all right? Just write down for me. He's right down a couple of things that you did today. Just write them down. What do you mean goes? We'll actually just tell them to me. I how about that. And I go Kay, which do I go. Well, the lunch went to get a hotdog today. And I went of the hotel today to get a lunch hot dog for lunch cards on online to buy one. I remembered the lunch cart on the other side street, sells and fifty cents less on over there. Got one from there. And he goes boom right there. I didn't even ask you to be funny. You're just telling me something happen. Like, dude. You're right. Like, I go on stage at night, and I go. Yeah. What's what the guy selling hot dogs, fifty cents more on the other side of St. what's on your side street? And I mean, I didn't have great bit. But I had a nugget and his point was we sit down comedians, and we try to write things like think things at a funny as opposed to just just think about. Your life. And then just be aware of with the funniest as you talking about your life. You'll have to make it up. It's right there. It's right in front of us. It happens all the time. You're just not good enough yet peak to see, you know, and I found that interesting because then like another comedian said to me once when I write all the time. But this is a few years later, just not find anything funny, and he goes don't throw out those old notebooks because I bet you there's a lot of funny stuff in there. Your just not funny enough yet. You're just not good enough yet to bring to the stage, and that was another phase because I was about eight years in and I was having another slump writing for nice said, you know, I'm gonna go back to those old notebooks inva- like three weeks L my comic friends like do. You got so much new shit, and I'm like own. So it's just a truly, and then like, you know, you talk to Sebastian Maniscalco, and he doesn't write anything, you know, he goes on every night. And just remember what he said and says a little different the next night, Patrice O'Neal God, rest his soul. One of the best of big, you know, big Patrice. He never wrote anything. And if he said some funny on stage, if I if I do something funny. I have my recorder. I'll I'll go back in a fine. When I said that I never said before that was funny. I'm gonna write that down. Patrice would say if it's funny if it's really funny. I'll remember it. And if I forget it then that means it wasn't that funny. You know, it's not really always true. Because I say something on a show like, I know he said something I'll remember it. And I go back and listen to it, and I go that's great. And I write it down. And I keep saying moving forward, and it does awesome. So, but I didn't write it down. I would've forgot it. So betrays the dozen. It work for me. But my point is every comedian has a different method, and and it's it's really never ending process. Some of the best jokes have come up with just on a phone a buddy one time until about having sexual lives, and I go sometimes my wife is laying like she's trying to get a tan, and I'm blocking her son. And it was just something I said, and it became one for word broke, the stage, and it would kill the years and years and other jokes are really long grind that you know, is slowly graduate funnier and better and better, you know, needs one has its own story. It's kind of interesting after a while the day like you say, it's kind of unit ready to spot it yet seats. But he's the recognize it thing that's always guest reflecting about due to the ones that can see you was present these ideas that good, but then often spoke, so the completely overlooked. They'll be able to bring down that's the idea. That's brilliant. An it's kind of. He's not resident this except go to come up with lots of ideas and new ways of throwing and just in case, I can come back to later. Yeah. And stand up comedy. It's true. A lot of comedians. You know, they just think the work starts and ends on the stage. And it doesn't man that's just part of it really a small fraction of it. Because you have to like early on for me another aspect to it be comedians that will do really well, the clubbing it allowed, Lance and popular in the moment. But you looking at what they're saying what they're doing. And you like it's long-term you're gonna wanna keep doing that act. The way you're doing it term. You're gonna wanna keep being filthy. Eli dad or whatever it is that being and the best example was I wanna names just in case. But this buddy of mine comedian, we broke into the famous newer comedy cellar, the same time, and when we won't be on the lady loved us, both ran ST. So she would have me MC all shows on. So I do ten minutes of. Front and then like five to three minutes in between all night long. And then she'd have my buddy close the show. So I bring him up less because he was real dirty, and he would make crowd crazy. He was the king as we got going in there. He was getting more laughs than me, much more or less than me. But he was doing real dirty stuff and crowd-pleasing stuff people drinking, and I was talking about my life, and my relationship with my girlfriend at the time is now, my wife and just my life. You know, and then years and years later, I was doing a radio show, and he came on and we've always stayed friends through the years, and he goes band Corelli. I gotta I went through some shit with you my own head that you have no idea, and I just had to give you the biggest tip of the hat and on the guy on the radio shows. I was the only explain, and he basically rehash is what I said we broke into the comedy. So at the same time, Pete emceed, I close an iced kill people and not kill. And I know you crushed man. And he goes impeded. Okay. You know? But you know, I was crushing and Pete was just who's doing. Okay. But he was doing stuff about his life. And I was like fingering my puck and take pussy all the, you know, and he goes, but what happened was through the years Pete's Dali getting better at talking about his life and started killing with that. And he goes in and I started not doing well. What would I was talking about? Because there's nothing behind. It was just bullshit to make the people laugh at wasn't working my craft wasn't sharing my life. And I was getting disinterested. In saying it make tell until the point where now pizza being funny of me, but talking about his life. And so it made me go back to the drawing board and say I want to do that. So I started to do Pete was doing from the beginning. And I would take my bumps and bruises because it was it's hard not to kill when used to kill on. And I go. Yeah. I know dude. I trust me. I know. And now he's doing his whole all about his life. He's doing great and fantastic up there. But it was like, it's almost like, you know, when you cheat in the system, but, you know, admitted, you know, like, another comic do a baby voice. But now he's fifty and it's creepy. So it's also having the whale with old to think about why you're doing what you're doing up there. And you know, like, what's the point of what you're doing? You don't you know, everyone has a different thing. You know, some people wanna be political make you think I don't just wanna make you left. But I wanna make you laugh talking about what I wanna talk about and lasting is claiming clubs every night. We see the same do every night, you know, some happens in current events like five guys talking about it. And some of these guys are really really good writers with within that stuff. So I'm like, well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna compete with them. Just gonna talk about my life 'cause they can't steal that. They can't copy it 'cause then not living my life, and that really freed me up and of started to set me apart. And that's the cutting where I will give myself a little tip, but a captain. For knowing bag then that not the guy who's left in getting the biggest last all the time at the beginning. It's not, you know, not space 'cause you saying when you don't kill these awful failing. You know, you're trying out new material, and that's of development you have to go through that stage auto much in. It's quite lonely. I think that for me there's an overlap between when you work if yourself you're freelancing, you're on your own quo. And I know that I've spoken to friends, and they find that 'isolation how to deal with especially if they're looking at social media. And is that thing of you know, you can't help but compare what other paper up to have. Yeah. When you're traveling long hours away from your family that that must be really tough. But how do you remain obey Baeau? Pose Dave is is there anything you do to try that bring you down because then you go on the stage, and you you can't be low energy you the crowd of that's being detained you kind of have to face on. So he's their way that you. Manage that. Well, I will say this no matter how you feel in when you get on the stage, usually that's you're not feel that way anymore because that's the one time that you're like all make sense, and you like being on stage, and that sort of thing, you know, sometimes you get a little resentful when you playing some place, you feel like you don't have to be like when I used to play those cruise ships. I didn't want to be on those cruise ships. And I knew I was just another stop along the way in the night for these people night. That would make me mad because unlike I'm not a God damn piano player, and you do have to put on a brave face, those definitely, but yeah, the road men is no easy answer to this. It's tricky everyone has a different way the win it. You know, I know guys that like go out and about and see the town and all that I I don't do any of that. I try to take that time and and use it to my vantage, especially when I have a kid now. So I try to work in the hotel room and whatnot. But think the biggest thing is tough to say if you not relationship. Then I I really don't think it's it's a sad. As people think it is. I mean. Yeah, you're alone. But you're only gone for four or five days at a time. Do get to go home a little bit. And it's it's quite fun. Sometimes to to just be these little towns of the places that you'd never ever think you being, but as you get older, and you still going back to these towns you start to get scared. Holy shit. Am I going to be doing this still sixty and and on the other hand will they still want me at sixty but where could streaky when you're in a relationship because I've seen guys that and women that women that marry men men marry women that say they can handle this, and it's fun and cool and my wife or husbands a comedian. And then like, you know, five or six years in the bloom is off the rose and their husband is not a huge star. And the kinda struggling and then they start leaning on him to get a real job or something. And then that makes it really hard when the person home doesn't want you to be doing it. Luckily, when my wife, she's always been awesome. And I remember. Like, we she's been with me since the first joke, I've told pretty much, but I remember like seven or eight years in wind had a rough point in the career. And you Bailey make any money, and I go out. Do I go get a real job and she laughs, and like it's so funny. She goes, the what would you do you would be so miserable a real job? I'm just laughing thinking about us. So it was quite the opposite. She was saying you could never do a real job you'd be miserable. Your. So that kind of support makes it easy, but you know, some guys workout some guys drink a lot. Some guys read books Sebescen, rents a car and drives around the town road is the Roadman it can be lonely, and it's interesting because the first ten years you stand up career, you're not lowly 'cause you're not really on the road. You're not good enough to be. So you're in the clubs locally would all the other comics, and and then slowly gradually, you only friends get better. And then you Bailey of each other. 'cause now you're all the road. Okay. So you say it's your approach to it. And like your way that you because the people around you they know they caffeine. This is what you'll destined to do. And it makes you so happy. So that's kind of plus you very successful does certainly help. Well, appreciate you saying that. But I mean, it wasn't long ago. Like, I remember playing comedy club in Minneapolis. It's the biggest mall in America, it's called the mall America, and they have a comedy club. And they also have an amusement park in this mall. And I played this comedy club Saturday night. It's packed. I kill a great show. And then okay shows over and I'm going back to my hotel room hotels connected to the mall. So I don't have to leave the mall now as I'm walking back to my hotel room amusement park is close, but you can walk throughout it, and I'll literally walking through and and the amusement park at one in the morning after having just killed in front of a crowd. I'm right next to a ferris wheel. And you like what talk. About being humbles men. Right. Like shouldn't someone be buying me sh caviar and champagne on some sky rise roof? So so stand up just really humbles you very quickly. So, you know, it's just like you just gotta have a love for doing it and make sure the people back home cool. What you're doing it man because as much as you like, oh, this is great two minutes lady. Like, oh, God, this is the pressing. How? Lovingly story these need to be. But I was just wondering what would I guess it's tricky. But I'm always canes of gave Thais and things for the people who are listening, and I think one of the things I guess if you have a family who on like you'll to kind of new on the pressure to keep that job, what would advise would you give to someone under that kind of pressure? Because I always say, maybe they could what the job is available. You did the hotel we'll overlapping you'll stand up with your job until there's a point where something's going to happen. We've got to make a decision which one is gonna come first. But by balancing, the two this financial pressure. But no people have spoken to me, and they come out of pair pressure. And it's kind of is not related. It's always dealing with put downs and comments and all that types of gang Rio job, and they just doing during whatever what would you say to those people to try and develop mental fortitude against that. Basically again that goes back to the passion of an old into scary thing amount of. How you think about it? When you put yourself out on a limb, and you go for something that you really don't know more Maron had this great line where he said God just sums up stand up to me. He goes the problem with stand up comedy. Is it takes about twenty years to become a success? He goes with the problem is it also takes about twenty years to become a complete and bid of failure. And you never know which one you're going to be until the night before. Meaning like, meaning like, you do that one less show. It's one is in and you'll know the morning, you how that phone calls going to go. You know what I mean? And then as far as keeping your regional job. I said to agai once in the comedian. How do I know when I can quit my day job and just be a comedian. Because that's so exciting for comedian. When you quit. I remember my manager who starred management comedy come into the front desk. And I when I had my last day at the hotel, and he's like gimme your. Name tayo. I wanna keep it. And he still has it at his office from what I wanted the front desk. And you know, when I say, you just a comedian. Now, I was broke dude. I had no money. But whatever money I did have I was making doing stand up, and it was very, exciting and scary. And and to this day still get scared like I'm right now only have daytime until like may. So my brother-in-law is like owner of layoffs and factory. Anything could happen a year from now. And it was my wife. I don't have any work lined up after may. So what is he crying about? But that's just my life and how I live it. And that's just the way goes, you just you can't worry about what other people say to your point. And you just have to know that you have a plan and you'll go into something, and it's exciting. And quite frankly, it doesn't work out. It doesn't take long to catch up to all those people that go out there and get the real jobs. You know, you go on something you try to something bigger. And here's the crazy thing you Frenzel act some. Someone who wanna like they want you to make it. But they really don't want to make it some of them you can tell because if you do make it then it just it just means all those things that they wanted to try and do that they never did that they chickened out. Could it came true? If they went for like, you did Bom eat comes down to what you really love it. And you've got to be prepared to work extremely hard. It seems that you made a huge of sacrifices as far as you gave up the financial security and working ridiculous. I was working really hard and big really committed and I do stress the people if you're going to get into freelancing, you have to have this mindset. It's a combination of Tanaz consistency and patience because nothing comes easy and nothing comes quick and to expect in Kasai, instant gratification. People want to quickly want it now. But actually, it's not realistic. So I'm quite blunt with people to say if you make a client or potential client networking, it could take you a year. And maybe twenty other meetings before you even come close to landing account. See you've got to be prepared to put in long hours and kind of get disillusioned. Yeah. Absolutely. It's definitely put in long hours and the dedicated. But all like, I said kind of stems back to passion because even my own father would always say he still does. He's always just so amazed that the discipline. You had you know, to to know that you have to do all his self. All you, you just and again, it kinda goes hand in hand with the passion because if you wanna get better, you see him what he's the guys doing, and you go I I gotta do that. The only thing that is difficult is especially much more. Now, when I started is huge business aspect, too because of all the social media, and there are a lot of guys these young guys that are fantastic with social media. So they build up these followings, and then they can go do a comedy show people actually gonna come see them. But they're they're craft isn't very good because they put the majority or energy into pumping themselves up on social. Media shamelessly to man, I mean shamelessly just I linked to great before they all great and on top of that audiences today. Go when they'll see a guy who's not great. But they don't care because they just more excited that that's the guy from all the YouTube clips, or whatever it may be, you know, so it's it's really trying to find a bounce of you know, maybe not plug into hard early on in social media is like any other product. You don't have good product to sell yet and really focus on you craft, but, you know, stay relevant on social media, and then slowly build it up when you think you have some say, or, you know, go the other route and just go hard and heavy on social media and give him a mediocre show. A lot of kids them today to talk definitely sides of there's a point where they switch to becoming like a personality. And actually the talent that they start out in never develops. And so they're actually not that great. But they've weirdly moved into this kind of social media spec spokesperson has an opinion. On things. But isn't actually that good. But the Conoco's book these guys because they just wanna get asses in the seats. So these guys will sometimes go, I must be good comedy goes Booker may. But it's like these some of these comics are really glorified rental whole summit, a low level ones at least. But one thing I wanted to know his when you get on stage. Now, you love it anything you do when you were first getting on stage. That's quite nervous on a lot of people have kind of imposter syndrome, where they they feel that ought to give a tool or the ASTA even just go an introduce themselves because they introverted people free count. And they get really nervous. And I know for me personally when I was in the football coaching running the hotel. I could I had to switch into a manager mode where you kind of you drop everything and just not pretend. But you have a different aspects you personality when you go on stage. How do you how did you overcome the nerves? How'd you stay confident? How'd you maintain that presence? That's was fascinated me. Oh, I'd say the biggest thing would be repetition repetition repetition. I purposely started New York City. I haven't lived there. But it's really the mecca for stand up comedy because is so many clubs. So you just you just constantly on stage so much that it's almost like ice to be freed of flying. And then I want on this comedy tour where we had the fly every day for thirty five days. And by the end that wasn't afraid of flying. Because I was just too tired and on planes to couldn't beat afraid that long was too much be yell. So and then like my favorite comedian will times has gaming David tell and he's told eloped amount of time. He's on stage. Now, it's probably like gotta be like seven full years of his life. Probably been standing on a stage. Right. He'd be on every single night every single night, and they always new stuff, but I remember going through phase like years ago. I was lazy like less like a week and a half. I said to my wife, I got a new thing if I don't have a new joke to say why? I bother goal to the comedy club tonight. I know the old stuff works. So I'm not gonna go out joke, and I did definitely a week and a half. And then I went on stage when they everything was rear examine and a week and a half. And that's when I realized oh, okay. So David tells going on stage every single night whether as new joke enough just to constantly break down that barrier. So if you see him now on stage, he is comfortable as if he's eating a sandwich in his kitchen because he's just been up there so much he seen everything. And that's where I'm at two at this point. I've just when I go on that stage. I've just been this show many times. And when I first started going on early on my career you playing guys aren't good either. You're all night good. So you're on these lousy shows in these lousy places. So you're all bombing together one at a time, but some collectively together, you know, what I mean, it only starts to get a little scary. When you start to get a little better and. You get put on a good show with great comedians. And you know, you're not as good as they are. And the crowd starts to like, you know, let you know. That's that's a tough time. And then when I started headlining Bailey good enough to do one hour stand up. I Bailey had an hour material I should say. And that's only if every thing I did work, which didn't always work. And like I remember when night being in, Texas and these two Mexican guys were open them for me. And they lived in Texas. So they're doing jokes about the river and immigration, and everybody's dying. And then his New York of those up doing and like, I ate I couldn't follow these two little Mexican dudes. And I remember like just like freaking out be like, oh, God, I have two more shows. Tomorrow drinking a lot of beards. And then ten years later, I was in a comedy club. And the guys before me the MC comes back, and he says about the guy on because I always doing really well, and I go. Oh, great. Great. Great. And then. I kept doing what I was doing green room. And whatever reason at that moment reminded me of of Texas, and I go holy shit. I remember back when I was young when I would freak out watching the guys before me hoping they weren't too funny. And all this stuff, I go now, I don't even know what they don't before. I couldn't care less because I know they is good as me. And that's just time. And being up there and doing it over and over and over when it's all that has man repetition. Yeah. Now, that's interesting. I thought it probably would be. But I just say you can't be putting in the hours and gang comfortable is is like anything. It's just the more. You do it. But also, you don't try and take too seriously. You kind of accept this of the journey off to get certain amount. My system before I can expect to be good at this sort of thing. Yeah. I think about have you ever seen with both thing ever see a comedian up there who's not funny, but he's acting like he is full of confidence. Totally fearless. And it makes you go. Makes you go missing. Some. This guy's got a smile on his face like he's killing and he's horrible. But because because you know, he hasn't been up there so much that maybe jokes are funny. But that don't mean he's not comfortable sitting at you know, standing there. There's like if lips it back because you maybe it's me. I just don't get it. But I think yeah. That's the big thing. It's. Pushing himself to do it. I think is always the element of being uncomfortable as popular development. That's the only way you ever going to get better yet push yourself into to make uncomfortable to do. I was talking about like, you know, that Michael global ten thousand hours of practice to become an expert and in the book is the differences purposeful practice. So it's practice it gets progressively harder lifting weights and thing of the guy gave the example darts player over here could fill Taylor, and he would to make things harder. He would cover his he would play with a small bullet but half the size of regular one. But he would cover paper. So he can see ox and then play like that relentlessly. So when it came back she doing it with a normal sized up. He could see everything it was a breeze to him because he's just crazy. Very successful. Yeah. And I listen if you don't have the time to do something over and over. And you going to do some speaking. I the small piece of advice, I can give just so simple. It's just really painted the breath and put the moment in perspective, man. Like, no matter. What happens up there? No matter. What you say tomorrow is the sun's gonna come up days. Go on. It's nothing Nanya mental on the line. Nobody's going to die nothing to be overly afraid of just just and you'd be amazed that the people in the audience, they give you such a leeway not in stand up comedy. But in life when you speak in front of people for you to get up there. They you know, they know how hard it is man. So it's it's shouldn't people shouldn't fear that so much. What's the big deal, though, not true point think that is the way to some out because I think that's true everything you should do. It should be kind of. It's it can happen in people willing you to do. Well, generally. And it's it's more brand try and. Push through invade is actually that wasn't as bad as I thought because that's why the development that's how improves it's kind of. I think the answer is to kind of keep pushing his health and gain. So very nice web summing up thinki-. Yeah. Literally an hour after whatever you did is done. They gonna move onto something else. Anyway, tension spans of people this day these days, there's nothing to fear, folks. None of thinking about what they're going to eat for dinner. Just. Yeah. Right. Thank you so much for being on. You can be plenty of your time. And appreciate you sharing stories times through the is to that would good friends. You've done a lot for me to more than a pleasure. I'm sorry. I was such a modem auf, man. No, I loved it. Like, I said, it's Jackie the answer is to let you and they'll have means. He said, I'm very happy. That is really good. Thank you. My pleasure, man. My pleasure and firm out there. Listen to say, thanks so much for listening and you go to Pete, Cory Ali dot com. And you have any questions if you did listen to this in his something else. You wanna ask I'd be? I'd be happy to Email back. I really would Manso hell my career on Twitter as well. Yes. My Coriolis C O R E A L E. Yes. Perfect. So they can always be if if you've got time you'll get themselves. Pretty thank you. Yeah. My pleasure. All right. Take care. Bye.

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"Sell talking and gab. Women black culture yet take news. Podcast got lazy asia poetry which all right ladies and gentlemen ladies generally jim it. Hopefully i caught the last ten tap in live That was a very interesting one. Replay of course there is what you opinion. 'cause you wouldn't allow so. What are your opinions about the love topics types of love with so dope. I definitely appreciate appreciate okay. I got her out. Who is was the girl's name who was on a she. Corinna corinna corinna rodriguez. She held a down sat out. Jersey's bergen county sat up. She said brooklyn thing. or what. have you on instagram. locked us out. Couldn't bring nobody else on the live but you know ladies and gentlemen because they wanted to get in and they wanna cop ahead too so shout out to her support the podcast and both of those ways very good conversation. Keep this conversation going If you have a yeah definitely. Please subscribe right now. Go to instagram. At penn on school podcasts. That link you can subscribe any podcast in platform. We could just go to our website near podcasts. Dot com watch all the videos. And listen to audio. There are right ladies and gentlemen stay. In-studio we've been waiting for this for a while be honest we've been waiting for free for you and your kind to come here. I know people that you're kind science said that on purpose. His name is chris austin. I and knows no applause question. More ironist star. Aca you can find them online right on instagram. Right now at the chris austin Been looking forward to a comedian shadow of asia. You know saying girl man you know. Hey i'm glad to be here. Definitely doing sean green. Let you get your our raspy gonna make up for we missed. If you'll come right back. Got take that chris austin into building first and foremost. I'm happy to you for you to be here. We've tried couple of times to get comedians on the show We we've had only one particularly. That was rail when i was in l. Eight at one time but he was too busy looking at near the pool. Have i have his undivided attention. So comfortable around us as the home that he don't get into his comedian he he your. He decided to come like you know smooth come into his twenty back absolutely absolutely But he's hilarious super as so. Get into comedy. Oh man so started back in november twenty twelve it was actually a bit I was actually in dc Read one little comedy show in comments which is trash. I'm not gonna lie as they try to crowds. Like that. And i was like man. My homeboy he asked me. I could do that. He can really bad so bad. I was like okay. Then you'll go there. Say all right. I told the guy said a man you know. Can i come on. do you think you funny. I say all right. Give you five minutes. I was like give me three minutes. I ain't world-beater now. They're thing personnel. All that stuff just caught fire after that so now yeah personal cider. So i was like a joke about this. Is parliament obama and romney brownie when the pbs. I'll say you can imagine how elmo will be pissed off. You know what i'm saying. Ou our bono to say something else bill. Salad bobbled from bobby's world all ages. Get you just kind of play with on. I grew up on impersonations and stuff. I mean there's there's something that was always kind of like in my mom in my spirit to do it And five thing is. My sister was actually comedian. The family okay. So i run to writing jokes for her. We would always clown like sometimes. We prayed call grandma you know. Schleyer dot com down. How you know so you know. We're just doing different person nations and stuff so you just kind of how you see stuff and church clowning stuff you know you. Just life is funny. You know you've got the most of it you know so i think it just it. Just stop in. Two thousand twelve might have been a lifelong comedian fan of the game and just trying to find different perspectives and stuff. Did you have nerves. How strong the nerves you know it was. I was nervous. Hell so own run track and he retired treatment. We've got to better off always like heaven. Nervous was always like an excitement with it. You like. I'll care if i'm bombing. It's going to be the experience of it. You know what. I'm saying because mentality you got to be that way you gotta put it out putting in fact you know. Hey i mean it's kind of like how with comedy i tell. People is the best form of a public speaking. Because you have to engage. People you know given your personality read the room. Yeah make them laugh. Yeah you gotta be funny. 'cause you can you can tell us speech. Whatever like l. go speech but people would judge you funding the legitimate quick with that. So i appreciate their wrong about it. You said that you know the sex successful you first going on stage right. Yeah i saw. Did you have like a little streak where you were bombing. Only for the man was one time hall. What was it This is probably one of those terrible horrible. No good very bad day kind of thing. So i got a fucked up here that day. I got a fucked up haircut. My jesus too tight everything which is off you know and l set your skin subscribe. I thought i was to do you know i was. I can fit this bird listening having washer something. She let them. You know a little bit back then. But i feel a little bit. Come over you know does go tilson jokes. Man and like all china incorporate different little things sometimes comedians. You know you go out there. You want to try new jokes. Because it's like you always practicing just never like you have a joke down solid. Look any comedian. Like kings of comedy at bernie. Mac know he would tell the joke about the school. Bus must over here. They were man arrested piece. But it's just you all. You're always practicing. Your crowd still found ways. Do a joke. You know but sometimes don't work out. I remember one old lady was lying and eight funding. You ain't pretty take taking l. Because at the end of the day it takes a lot to go front of strangers and talking to mike people's ass you know people rather shoot people instead of going public. Speak saying so. You just do it. Nobody's gonna say shit like a big. I couldn't do you know. I mean it's just a it's humility but you gotta have to want it so right so some weeks back. I went out to dinner. One of the The guy one of individual dinner was a comedian. And i've heard other means express. Get the background so so happened. Is i literally was like we're talking in and we were talking about the today. You have so many individuals on instagram. Or using social media's doing skits and things of that nature whatever and i didn't qualify them as being a comedian at the time right. I was president. I was thinking that for the person actually gets up on stage in front of people works in material has to be some differentiation between them them right and it became a serious conversation can use like no. They're comedians. now. I was like okay but took a personal like i was literally colon them like some derogatory term so as a comedian when you see how do you differentiate two between those at actually walk up and actually do stand up versus the individuals might just be on social media just doing skits and things of that nature. That's a good question because he what you're coming from the old school mentality guys like d.l. Hughley kept williams. Can't live like no tiffany haddish. She is not funny. Tell me a good. Tiffany haddish joe. No you can't i mean. Sr where he is he feels about way. But you know if you make people laugh from me. I respect it as a form of comedy when you're team about like stand up comedian. Now if you say stand up comedian okay. That's that's a different level because it that's the one that you grow up with you on the circuit. You're grinding hard. Do all types of shows just going through that grind. I think what makes it where you get old school and new school kind of clashes because now you have a platform instagram. All you too. You can put them out there and you send your couch you talking about some cigar name Come home videos and just give us perspective. Like no man ryan year ryan. David davis comment. You know in that can work for people you know but then it's kind of like some people may not respect it because it's like you're you're pivoting off of something else. Would you know but oaks school standard. Still take issues. they see. it's still talk about you know but they just give a different perspective. Think you know comedy like you can think about some of the great comedians and were were probably just in movies with sketches sunken transition. Can't you know but I think one of the one of the greatest. Comedians are are personally all time resting pieces. Patrice o'neal oh. I've seen a dog. Okay that was amazed with true saying now. If you want you talk about relationships stuff man. He was that guy he was the first de six five three hundred hundred pounds. Just funny but you know it was probably on plenty but he was that do and so i think you gotta respect it. I kind of account with partial towards the school concert. But at the same time you had a thing where it was like the wayans made it stand up but he also sketch doesn't do best in living color. You know when. I respect all dolphins of it. I think we all watched color. Which favors sketch on illusion color. Oh so much you probably candidate inquiry. Speak about like what you thought flagrant back. This guy handyman what you got home. We don't use a little kids. You got the fan of it came me hutton. Character the postal guy. Tang that one they won the karate guy you know. I just take me back. I remember when series drop man. I went and got everybody chocolate. All of the dvd yo lackluster days. Baby before blockbuster. He was watching somebody to your new millennium blockbuster. Red boxes pills. They got her late fees credit. All together. I know that is hilarious. But now i wanna do do want to do this. I do want to shatter all camis out there. I think it's a under appreciated profession. Have you think is under appreciated. I think comics should be paid well. Much more than they. I put his way. When you look at the comedy. Space terms laissez hollywood or whatever is only like the reserve like a select few. There are so many super talented if they were given the platform like one of the comics right now that i just can't stop watching his do carlos miller this stooges has the knack like he just like sometimes you can tell he's just walking on stage and he just get his material as he's looking at people the only thing he can do a whole five minutes set on one thing like he just got the knack ford or whatever but when i looked at his career like this dues being grind and since two thousand eight for that yet private two thousand four two thousand eight black. No you started really seeing. I'm seeing them. In two thousand eight for mississippi to elena dim to hollywood and in the thing is the see high all comes together. And when you run into other comics right so shouted out one Earlier rail battle. I went to go see his shows at was spotted in baltimore. Nick make something you know kind of like an county. Yeah someone like mcdougal's will make something but any event we go there. And then after the show i go backstage. And we're like chilling backstage and he's like Let's go next door to the restaurant. So i go back to next to restaurant in. I'm there with like eight comics right. So like is nothing better to sit with eight comics and just kinda see them kinda just kinda just talk in workout jokes and be like yoda was funny. You should that at any working with seven. And then i'm sitting in. I'm asked how long you been doing this. How long you been doing this. How long you been doing this and you saying that some of them doing it for the pure love. They want the bag. But they're not get any yet. So i shout them out because they actually helped me live life. You know saying without the without the last. I get trust me all know what life would be like out here and trauma that we with. They make it digestible. Oh haley nothing. Nothing is hands off for for comedians. Sometimes you need that that perspective like you know we can move past this. No i get that laugh off. Now we can move past it also one thing to shut up to one comedian to help me get into the opportunity. Back in two dozen was rob gordon okay. You know he's a he's a great guy you know he's been doing stuff in hollywood just being the movies and different things you know aspect man's grind because nobody really knows like everybody kind of always in life. Everybody sees the final result. Might just appreciate that process. You know you got people have been in there for twenty years. Yeah you wouldn't even know but it's just it's kinda like when is your town your time do what you. Can you know even what you were saying about. Like how comedy you can kinda say what you want you know. But is getting to like a lot of oscar comics. You know you to cancel culture. Where now is like you say some jokes. You don't know if that's gonna come back on you. People don't look at it as a as as objectively anymore. It's just more like oh. He said this he said that you're not getting the whole thing. I'm even They chapelle talk about. Actually what you think about the dave chapelle stansell anyway. He's dislike man fucking on sale like we're reflection of society so there's always want truth to comedy you know. I mean i think you have to be you have to be yourself. You can't go out there trying to fake it because it catches up to you so you're going to see what you're going to say. It's like say being president. Some people are gonna like you some people not you're going to have to roll with it. Obviously from the flip borough laughing then. It's a good joke and if it's a you find a way to so facts so we might get a little serious but hey we got. Chris often appeal. That you'll be able to say the first one is this kevin. Samuels has been over the last couple of months. Both i mean we've been hearing so much about him so many opposing differing views. Differing views about kevin samuels his position on relationships. Women this title of high value men and so forth and he recently sat down with joe button and they had a good interview. They allowed him to speak. Granted was homeboy. Joe but enjoy now. Who's who's sitting across can do you think it's just kept rutland. He was like mad. I got to kevin same as little. This is passionate but nevertheless kevin basketball call. Kid kid you know he was. He did get opportunity to tickly ideas thoughts feelings and emotions about various topics so we delve into a no particular order What stood out from the interview for you. Guys anything asia. Everything are now ready and getting prepared for this thing. Most importantly because he's noun like his goal and priority is talking about women so when we start to think about what he thinks about women in. How does he think you know women. The i guess the the structure of the dynamic in which he thinks that you know women raped hot rating. Women think. that's what i wanted to say right and Basically his premise on his arguments in high. He's presenting himself in how he's definitely like building his audience and what he's talking about in one key thing that i will say that i took away from it that i didn't have that perspective before and listening to him is that really. He's talking about the attack on black men and black relationships in so that was something that i could get behind because normally he's not palatable for me to listen to and just how he's you know sharing information in or choosing to judge black women like i don't appreciate his tone i don't appreciate but it's provocative i get it right. I get that people watch it. And it's his commentary is exciting. It's entertaining right. And i think for you know. Sometimes people no longer want the lens to be on them. I think it's always about you. Know black men not making enough money because when we're talking about building a family of being a high value that's always what it boils down to and then i also think cabinet samuel in listening to him that he spent a lot of time building himself up. Because you know if you listen to the sound bites In some of the arguments that he was presenting right he talks about being young and not having any money in how the women have money anyhow resources because she had food stamps and she was eating food stamps while he's out his struggling on noodles. I don't know what the women he married. look like. obviously you know that didn't work out for him. The twice married twice. I think he he mentioned that so that didn't work out with him. I don't know if he has children. But i know that's something that he aspires to have because he talked about wanting to have a relationship and move forward and so what i really wanted to take away from there is not any of the negative about samuels but when we talk about the attack on black man you know that's something i'm very passionate about not get behind because i have a son so when i look at my son and thinking about him being high value and some of the obstacles that he will have to survive you know just to become a mature man who is able to provide for a woman you know i wanna understand from the men that are in this room guys about it like what was your takeaway from from some of the things that he shared some of his struggles about being a black man about being you know ready to be a husband right I think that was more profound from mean and you know. They're not understood why he chose to start the arguments the way that he does right so he's not necessarily attack women. He wants us to be more realistic and understand. That black men have very hard so when you discredit a black man based on this criteria and you hear no prize right. He's like almost saying that. We all have to come to the table differently. If more black men an more black women are going to be married passing aged. So i won't say that necessarily agree but i definitely could appreciate his approach yoga so for me. You know i've i've started falling saying about you like any a few months ago home with him. Have about him. This cat and i was listening to him and a lot of things he he kind of came from like was for me true and this has been the circles of men. You know you can always pick up little things me talk. But we try to complain. We don't always the best way but a lot of things. Because the way that what i took from the interview in other stuff is kind of like how we're women kind of gauge. Who they wanna be with. You know is very keen. Essentially gotta have this gotta have that. I don't want that. i don't want that. He contact battling. I don't want those girls women tell you what they don't want you know but then you finally i don't want this. Is you know but a lot of time. They wound up getting garden. You know not intend to have some very meticulous about that. Depends but i think for me is like always looked that when women start telling you about what they want. The man remember that game back back in the day call mash y- like mansion apartment chat chat. You had to say this is the job they're going to have the salary l. The calling on drive and those things you had still little circle to the number you had to go through and it's kinda like that you know you get a young age where you do understand the economics behind things and i think that's where okay you say. I wanna million dollars two million dollars three million dollars. But then there's there's always a caveat with everything you know like with those type of guys and so you're talking about upper echelon guys and then one thing. I liked about his podcast. He say it was like let's say what was halle berry right. You know mostly black man. I hate that was good. That was a good time to get it. You know what i'm saying. We don't go like michael hitter up again. You know the moment but women got with like you know On the lebron. James gotta why somebody like that. You know the brawn james tight. They'd be like. Oh i got a taste of this. I know what this last. I was like uncle. Make sure stay in. There ain't going by the hamburger helper more but not to say that. That's actually exactly bad. But then are you the put yourself top positions where common tally women. Having and i think the thing that gets lost a lot what are you saying like women. Don't really know what men want. I think a lot of may we don't agree with that wasn't going to go there and say you went there really. Don't know what man want. I decided men at the same time are also afraid to say what they and needs are too because i disagree beth. Wha he's not for that reason. Because i see a lot of men and they know exactly what they want right. They know exactly what type of girl they decided to talk to. You know exactly what it takes to have that girl on their arm and if you have defined that as money high-value in you know exactly what it's gonna take for. You'd get what you want. You know that you might have a particular type in so for you. You tend to probably wanna talk to a girl that's in that type right visit visit recruit so so then let's define physically and then we'll start there so miserable all star also. Everybody starts there. So what's the difference between men and women and we're all starting from physical place. 'cause she cares about what he does with. Maybe what he doesn't How much he earns where he just cared about. Is this what. I want to wake up to but i also disagree with that to a degree because the package needs to be correct right when you when you see a woman right in you know. She's attractive right. Are you thinking about this. My wife or are you thinking about when have sex with her. At what point do you decide. Just she bad right is just is just about her being attractive about her being just about So it's the baseline for everyone. Now a woman is understanding when they started out when we're all young everybody out at the same baseline he's attractive. I'm attracted broker attracted to each other. So can we start their basic utah. Talking about adolescent. Love we talk my throat love. Well we'll talk my daughter overtime we're going to do. We're going to say both because it i mean. Are you talking to women that you don't find the women talking to men that are not attracted to yes. Women are talking some in that they are not attracted to women now. Yeah acid in a crash. It's always avocation bird. Let men crash and burn to manslaughter. The gorgeous girl denied that in my story where we're what was it. What was the game. He was like your average guys. I'll hear everybody wanted to i g motto. A girl who's getting how many thousands of likes and you really need to be the girl with the worry. Pitcher yada over. Is that true. That's what he said is the flip side of what cal san jose. This having a problem with kevin is saying. I'm having a problem with men agreeing with the fact that women have a preference in there saying that men don't if women choose to have a preference for a man who's more financially stable. What is the what i believe. Kevin is saying is not the woman in a man do have permits. They do what he's saying though. Is that minimal realistic about their preferences. Understanding that they have to level up in order to have that preference where women to women he speaking to he saying these women want or have a preference that is out of their league. They're not bad enough. Accomplished enough had the access house. Line noting surgery. That's why these women are still are not measuring up the surgery. Only it's like saying that you have something in may get you into the room. But it's not enough to keep you in the room it's not sealing the deal tomorrow. What was his thing he says marriage and and the one thing. That's a problem with our society as before is like everybody got options. Nobody's willing to make the choice true we all we all say that you do. But nobody's making a choice is driven. Would you making the choice. I'm victim of that. Everybody's a victim to that doing that. And i think it's where what happens is is where he saying in the sense of like. Okay if i'm a dude. And i see girls right here on the what i gotta do. I'll five eleven man. I'm a walk eighty. I know if. I wanna get like i. I'm going to have to work out to look like something that's going to stand up muslim. We'll be like hell. I between my legs. I can get up. That is right. Saddam ac- some degree. I can't agree with that. Because i see the women that are on the women that are going after these men and these women are not stat in overweight in the you know. They're they're not undesirable women so this is not a true fact for me right. I think the if he wants to talk about numbers he wants to talk about averages. That's where i can agree with him. So for the amount of women that exists that one that high man it is not that many of them that are within the category that if you want to date a man in a million dollar category that percentage super low and so now someone when he's talking about is versus. You know women because men aren't really. I don't wanna say that they don't care but it is not one of their primary factors in determining how we whether we get together not based on how much i make right. So he's saying that. The law of averages aren't there to exist for women to have to have women have unrealistic perspective. That's what i agree with you. That women are any men are had any less preference about type no. I don't think. I don't think it's about. I think it's where he's into the look passes officials stuff like look at yourself like what is it about your personality because nobody talked about personalities about like. Hey sometimes you might be national. You know sometimes the fact that you may not cook or clean up after yourself or do certain shit like that. You'd be like damn and as a man you've had you need somebody to kind of hold it down this and it's not like let's get this straight because a lot of a i make this amount of money. She's making this amount of money but then nobody's at home. You know what i'm saying. Nobody's doing that you can have you say this quote unquote power couple. Somebody's wanted to give something is. This is not realistic different movies. You see lot like that perspective. I like that now. We start talking about power couples in being a partnership in a team. What does it look like. A fool were the household to be maintained. Dabbled like heaven. Samuel to talk about the. I don't a t. May but what. I what i glean from that episode. One of the things that i got from it was he was saying that listen. Women have books in books in books and movies and movies and movies and so forth and so forth. This always telling women always saying women went your but there's nothing really out there says what men one and he say. I'm not talking for all men. I'm talking about these specific men in this specific the fall into this specific category. This is what they want. And i think part of the reason people are beefing or going at them is because they don't want to be towed. You don't qualify particularly in terms of these types of how they think but his his his dialogue about cooperation sounds a lot like control. I don't think so and let me just give you my point of view on wide and you can share your sure. Okay sure to know when you talk to be cooperative right. Because that's what he said right. He's like women aren't cooperative right. What is cooperation really boils down to when a final decision has to be made in the household he saying that it should defer to the man. I'm saying you should bird to the person who knows best. You're not wrong. Here's the thing in his house as that high high-value man he's saying that's how they operate is not a bow but if he's not saying you're wrong this is what i'm getting. Do you love somebody that she wants to cooperate with you. But you won't take their opinion. This is georgia's dot crosses on this whole thing right. These individuals operated particular way. I think this maybe some narcissism there but there definitely is a control factor. They run everything that is in their environment. Point blank period. They may delegate but for the most part they run everything in their environment he also single he. Yes right now putting him on trial. But i'm saying like to the end to end the point. So i think that he saying that for this individual for this individuals fulfilling this role playing this role in his life this e. This is the way this operates in order for to see. That's it and if you can play at enron look and operate that way from girl who's not on your financial level has any woman that is on your financial level. She's also had to make the decisions and deal with the experience because he likes to quote how he's corporate america. I'm from corporate america. So let's talk about it. He talks about. He's in marketing. Let's get down to it. Everybody knows that when you start developing in building any type of product. You're building multiple avatars building. We're not bodybuilding one person and we can have all people in a category we can make one category that says high value man and have five thousand avatars for them because they all react differently in different instances that is the case then what he is not going to tell me. Is that women who who when he's when he's talking about what high value men want. All how value meant don't fit into that category that he explained that one cooperation in total control. But he's saying the speak to he he's saying okay a coat in the men that he coaches. He has a responsibility. So even before i had this conversation my brother told me i have a responsibility for women who follow me and listened to me in my opinion because we are not preaching. Do not get married and do not be in relationships. Women aren't preaching that we want to get married and we want to be in relationship. But i also believe that cooperation in my house is gonna look like equal partnership. I don't know everything. But if i come to the table and i have an pain because i did research. I'm asking questions you're not gonna tell me you're making a decision. We're going to have a problem. I've had these problems in the past. I understand what they look like. We're going say who knows this. Have you done that. No 'cause i've done about ten of those. Let's have a different conversation now but now that appears on belittling you but the way in which you approach me what. A conversation wasn't as your partner. You are basically telling me which you were going to do. And i don't believe anybody should tell anybody. Would they should do. When i come to anybody. I'm always coming with the utmost respect. Because if i respect you that's how i would always communicate with you and what i like about. Kevin samuels approach in the way that he's been sharing it because i don't believe that he went to bed every night and was on some control right so please don't sell that to me right because i'm not selling that women. I absolutely have conceded in a lot of arguments like okay. I have to defer to this woman. I want a man by my side but what. I don't want a dictatorship so we cannot agree to have some type of partnership. And if he is out here and he is now the spokesman and he has taken on this position. As a spokesman in men who don't have any other outlet are watching him. I do not agree with the with responsibility that he's taken to share with them that she needs to cooperate with you know she needs to respect you but cooperation can mean a lot of things doesn't mean coverage his involve negotiation delegation and. I think one thing that going back to what you said. I do want to make sure that he understands like the fact that he single doesn't matter i mean if he's been divorced steve harvey divorced more than three times. More three. you know. But he's still willing to go to him you know but it's also where you look at. It would rather your mom and dad tell you. Hey don't do crack. They'll do drugs or listen to the drug who cannot be tomato. Don't do drugs. You gonna take that chuck lot seriously. You see that you you see it so there's always experience you can take from anybody good or bad you know 'cause everybody hopefully you want somebody i think there's always going to have some self awareness to them. I think that's the one thing that's missing a lotta relationships. Men element of people being having that self awareness. The time to take a step back. You know what crack on tripping because i mean relationships are seen it get somebody. Who's very combative. you can be like just talking about like. Hey i think. I say if you've got kids i think the kids should you know you always get up at a certain time. Have breakfast a certain time. Why i mean we tire. No is he the beata. But you get somebody who's always just kind of like going in there like all combat and combating at inundate. You like i'll give it almost just do it down. I'm going to take marriage my own hands. And sometimes both men women side. It gets two point you get fed up. It's just like if you know somebody's going to give you resistance in a way you rather not just. You always gonna go for the past least resistance. You know what i'm saying like what you gonna do. Would you rather get the steak on a platter or you to go out there and killed cow. You don't say it's just it's just human. Nature is gonna penalties resistance. Nothing for men. We chose to do that to our own detriment because we get told like we get told very toxic things at an early age. happy wife. happy life you know. It's cheaper to keep her. You know different things you just learn to kind of deal it and the while. It doesn't feel like what's love. It's just like obligation. It gets to that point as men. We kind of we kind of. Except that in a way you could tell. It still comes out with microaggressions. Don't you may have guys cheating because a lot of guys don't don't live the truth and a lotta times. We're not holding each other accountable either. Like there's one thing. I think the worst thing i've ever gotten told i think growing up with after how you get heartbroken all experienced this. You can go back and ask the out. Who's a player so wait wait. What did it happen for. You must do with the heartbreak. West bus gets told to women. Is that hey we're me gets broken. Grow take your time. Do you cut your hair. Do you guys do get rid of those bags chip you know. Let's go guys get told his like oh man man. More fish in the sea fishing. See but nobody ever told is like but no win the castor rod. You know what i'm saying. It's always where you go. They do it shake. You just have a sex but you never deal with the emotional anguish or trauma of what the what you put your heart out there. Every guy probably will lose like man. This really wanna light takeout. Do nice things for you. Find out when you want and what you like that. That's just devastating you. It's devastating but nobody tells guys that how to deal with that so we do we go to the next one same shit and then you just see it be cyclical you know and it gets to the point light. You'll even see you don't even see you love anymore in that in for guys. We don't know how to do it because all we know is like we just got to get through this. Get through this emotional part. Because i never do it my own ship and i think that's where a lot of guys be fucking up. You know i mean they. They really do. I think men us. I think we've been so subjugated to a lot of things you could talk about. Maybe the whole hip hop era back. You know eighteen. You know all the different things but it's always swear you know we kind of look at ourselves not as always being worthies we had to go out there and get those things. That's my challenge right now. Thank you could just take your time over it. Yeah we don't get that chance. I remember once one joke. Dave chapelle said you know they're not. Did you know that most blattman don't have to do when they're you know because they're always working was actually think about how. I feel know we don't do that. You know. we sometimes do believe lex chicago. Hindu what. I gotta do to survive. And i think it's even our whole tire coaches black people. It's like we're always in a very survivability you say you bring up a good point because he have from comedian to listen to therapy. Is chris and you bring up with something that i even struggle with with within my inner circles as well and nets therapy so as we wrap we wanna kinda just tackle this topic of therapy Amongst black men and your experience with other black men how. How is it well received or you know. Nowadays it is everybody in my circle now. has either gone through therapy or or is going through it. I'll probably say one guy but he knows that he wants to go through therapy for me growing up. You know shot out the dothan alabama where from Down south you know therapy was was the bible. Pray to jesus pray to god about it you know for me. It was always a type of anguish. You know that was kind of a known going to this book. Guy says you know jesus turn the other cheek all different things like that. You know be slow to anger commonplace for everything. It just wasn't registering. You know and most times when i was trying to you know think about it. We always from spears's go from childhood. Everything currently threat to childhood all the smart guy I got bullied a lot. You know how to deal with that so overtime you know anger to starts to build up in you. It wasn't until two thousand fifteen years. I to go Go anger management. Because i think it was my son was being born in. I was like i don't wanna bring type of anger in. You know what that can do. You know i. I know what that can do so for me. It was you know it was. It was therapeutic. Some stuff i got my chest. And then i went again are about twenty year around twenty seventeen seventeen twenty eighteen therapy again and you know it helps and i'll i'll tell anybody out. There don't feel bad about going to therapy. It doesn't mean that you're crazy you're gonna put you in an asylum or anything like that. You just get off your chest and you need to do that. In a very structured professional way a lot of times you can always go to your. You know your your cousin. Your brother anybody. But there's a bias with is best to get unbiased professional help Because you you'll be able to not just talk it out but this person will the therapists actually give you plans certain goals you had to reach Just recently finished up. You know therapy at their almost three years. And i met all my goals. You know it was just where you know. I have certain things where i had to come. You know drew. I think one of my goals was being able to live in my truth as far as like hey setting boundaries. You know saying what. I really want life because that's nothing was black people. In general we have hard time with boundaries. Especially mike man. Yeah we've and blend the two we all got our boundaries always tested you know. Hey this is my house. What happens cops more breaking your house. You know all the things. It's slavery everything's been. Everything's been just dismantled as far as who we are. And i tell people this too. I hate that we have to always kind of have to prove ourselves to white people. It's almost like sounds like being a derivative of of white consciousness white mentality. You kind of wonder would be like if we didn't say have to think like that. You know we just did our own. But we everybody's always kind of impeded on us. Yes so. I think he even goes from that. Macro to micro level where you deal with your daily. You know your daily stuff that you need to learn how to set boundaries and do those things and just because you're in therapy or good out therapy but you still have those things that happen in life which combat them better you know. I mean do different type of things where they know self medicate a no for me like i'm a as early as my grandmother. She was alcoholic alchoholic. She had anger issues. Yeah you know. She was angry by law thing. One thing i remember this was really deep with grandma valedictorian in high school but she was so angry about having to go out there and pick cotton she other white kids going to school on the bus. I remember she just passed out one day and it was like man you know you just don't know what type of trauma that people have to deal with just for simple things. It's a very important point right there. There's a lot of trauma going on right now. in hence why shutout set of comedians. Or what have you I think my first time doing therapy was was january. Two thousand fourteen ad. You do the typical New year's resolution thing. And i i had done it. You know many years prior to you know and in that year for some reason coming into the year i was like may i want to try something different. You know because. I told myself i wasn't gonna say no apprai- like the whole muffin. December going into new year. And i was just like look anything. I tell myself no to is what i'm gonna do side to start fasting right so the first thing i did is i anything i said. No to chicken. I thought about like nine. No chicken damn said anything. I say no to. I gotta do right. They usually go back to go to therapy. So that's i i. My dad jamie was the roughest. I barely eat anything. Because i say not just about everything. It was a hard hard. Thir your thirty one days never felt that long in my life with that thirty one day. Yoke killed me brought me down to size like for ru improve your discipline now. It improved my discipline and made me realize why the hell do i. Why am i so dependent on so many different things. I why would i say noted is why would i say noted that right and it actually became the i guess the spark for a lot of different changes. Nevertheless therapy was dope. And i think when i learned at the first one i did. I was like look. Whoever's therapist has to have a spiritual background right. i can't deal with no by. Who don't have no sense of god any life right. i'll need them to be religious elaborate. Just need somebody who's spiritual who understand it can understand that dynamic. Did someone like me may deal with found a woman black woman. Howard grad ho nine. I was real specific. Gotta go to school. And what i realized is i was found how difficult it is to find that it is fine black therapist and went to a black school to had you know what i'm saying. Dad was hard it is. It is fast easy to found a woman when i start looking for man even harder that started messing me up your nago there. That's a whole nother soapbox but I actually question how many how how many how many therapists did you have to go through to find the one because that's also important to. I'm still looking okay. I'm still looking like i. I will give anybody a chance until you shoot yourself in the foot. When i feel like i'm not. This isn't serving me thank you. I'm moving on one guy moved on route right at the consultation at the first me because he spent half the time. Tell me how good he was. I was like okay. Brigham therapist man. We schedule it makes the point. I'm like i'm not coming back. I'm not going to tell you why. Yes he goes to the because you posted like the whole point of that you get what you put into it. And i think that's one of the biggest things and that's why a lot of our so in my mill circle. A lot of the do that i know. Got the mentality of our. Nobody telling me about me. I know about me right but really what i've learned is a lot of people. Don't feel comfortable being vulnerable with. Somebody don't know in. Don't trust right. And i found that that is the antidote. You how how like. How willing are you willing to improve fright. So i use this analogy all the time i tell my son right. 'cause i told him is hey on his head coach. I'm not as dad right. There's a whole another thing. Don't worry about it. I gotta. He ain't mind that's what they need to talk. Just the head coach but i was like look. I was playing you play. You ran track right so you read y y race hundred eight hundred. I so look you had your head coach right but then you had somebody who was just a conditioning coach. You had somebody who focused on does middle distance runners. You had somebody. You had multiple coaches. You probably had three or four. The truth of the matter is all four of them. Were just sharpening you. And that's how at therapy like in life. We gotta figure out whom. You're part of our sharpening team right rice. Oh who you gonna getting your life so sometimes people will get into a. I bet they helped me see vision. I put in this things that i need to do. So if i go get a therapist right. My third best friend is a part of that that team to right but my therapist is there to help me work out things to ask should be able to recognize myself to build a strategies so there i don't always need to go tapa shoulder for somebody who's probably seen something the same way i am supposed to be the eagle looking at it from the perch like all right. I see everything you got going on. I'm gonna tell you what. I see on your board overhead union when you start seeing what they like word then it helps you now. Sit on your purchase damn. I shouldn't be talking to that person. I should've went there. I shouldn't have been doing this by bly. And then if you really really focus on it all you really realize joe i'm getting sharper which means i'm less prone to making some of the same stakes or i'm able to now better to see my mistakes and no winter pivi and not have to literally be face flat on the ground before flom like i. Let me make this change. That's how i see it. You know that's a good thing. I would say is like just go through that vetting process. I'll tell anybody others because one therapist doesn't work out doesn't stop keyed on. He keep going keep going because this is even if it's a lifelong thing people therapy bending there for years and it's just good to have you know you said you just want somebody overtop because you don't have person who's checking you. You don't have anybody who's going to be able to help you understand river inhibitions you have certain advices struggle with those things but for somebody say like hey understand you got those things but this is hiding investment approach. You know healthy wise because lawless do a lot of unhealthy things. When we're you know in life and making decisions so. I think that's really good at. You're you know you're doing that man. I you know. I definitely Probably brother i will definitely take me seriously was funny. Real quick apologize. I just thought about two things right. So what kevin samuels is doing is offering some form of therapy to some group of people right and i don't want to discount that we can object. We can do we. Can we can object to what he says his approach. We can fill that kind of way but somebody needed to hear certain things he's going to call that to. The attention is creating a discussion right. I think it's a creating a discussion for men to start thinking about their self worth. What do they bring to the table in the first place right because it's not saying that all men a high value maintenance you're saying these are mental. If you check your own checklist and you say do i qualify. First of all get the women. Do i even qualifies a high value. Are what does it mean and then you step step step it up now. I think to actually do some of that. Control stuff you talking about. That's a different system tally. That got to be the way you operate in general when you got control everyone or everything that's a whole another ball game but the second thing is i learned something from my pen. Tap in live joined the we did we flip the topic. I wasn't really tripping about it. Or whatever i wanted to be neutral. I was like we should be neutral as it came up with The the she framed the question. Now is i bet. boom. I like this. I went down this rabbit hole. Like i always do in that. I can be what i learned is dead important thing attachments. Douse anybody and everybody who has go. Get into your attachments. Dow's right because before we get into who we want what we want. How we want it when you start redoing the research and learning about attachment styles but not just adult attachments thousand. You go back to see what they did for the infants. The test they ran for the infants and so forth. You sort of realize how you attached to other people and which are prone to actually go to you. Start to look at where you need. Healing in your life now joked on this on the joint. But i was like a girl who broke out with a while at the pool. Eight years old. You're not saying she ain't give me the paper. I gave her roll her papers. Say will you be my girlfriend. Yes no maybe never gave it back to me to say scratched out the maybe and said no joke but nevertheless you know what i'm saying is thinking about think about how many people created defense mechanisms over the way in which they've been handled in relationships over time the woman who's been cheated on multiple times in previous relationships and now with trying to move on and find new love and she hasn't fully hugh got to the point of being comfortable being not with that person right so like all of us now and then it could change with your attachment style changes now so just getting into that. I'm like we all can use. Some therapy are absolutely is good. We can all use some therapy. Get some shit off your chest. You know what i mean. We told who laugh more. Say we go to next out. What have you but Chris appreciate your brother annoying cigarette. Hey i wasn't mad at his message shoe for his messaging. I want him to take more responsibility. He's communicating these things to men who don't have another outlet who are following him. And i think that can samuels in. His life has definitely made adjustments. He said it is my favorite words. So i know that. But when he is in his normal content he is not sharing those adjustments. Would he sharing. Is this very arrogant. Male perspective of you know. I shouldn't be questioned right. Wants to be esteemed as a gentleman he wants to. He wants his integrity in his word to be enough for people. And i think that that's hard because you know for me as somebody. I'm a natural questioner. So that's going to be problematic. So i mean just for me. I just think that he just needs to take a little bit more responsibility in in his messaging. Kevin as it didn't have a problem with it. I think he's definitely i mean because he's attacking me right. He's definitely showing me. And so even having this conversation with people they would like. Yeah usually like you. Can you know you're not as cooperative as you like to be. But that's not true. Roy topics that i'm passionate about. I've done a lot of my own research. And so now. I feel like when i come to the table. I don't know something. I shut up so i'm not somebody who's gonna talk where i have ignorance. I think in the day though. I think what he's saying you know because woman doesn't mean absolves you of your humanity of knowing that you still have things you to work on. You still have your your neck. Negative and i think women is where he saying. Look you guys got shit too. And i think it's where it's not. It's not said enough. That's why i think we're going to having a problem with it. You know gay. Let's talk about the stuff you see it because it's like. Hey you did this. Well it's because. I felt that way. So i'm justified. No you're not. You're not true you don't in and it's not the case and i think that's the thing that men have such a such a huge issue with i think chem samuel works for a lot of men in the also women because he's called people out at and sometimes i feel like it's a defense mechanism because i've been through in the past when women should tone with. Yeah but you get the message like because because it can be a real upset with you. Wanna go to tone to me for me. That's just the. Bs has to be as cop out. Because you're not really listening to what i'm saying. Just what tone is it shuts everything down. No you didn't really hear. of course i'm passionate about it. of course i'm gonna be emotional about it. I'm human to your man and the other thing is to ladies like all the respect you gotta stop telling a man what he isn't ain't guess what as he grows up he's gonna be a man maybe a ain't shit man but he's still a man we don't go around you woman enough for me. Somebody no man ever does this man ever hear here. It's like how to how to be a man. And they don't know executive feels like biologically to the same type of patterns or anything like this is like a drought came up to a dead zebra. Like you know you got you got strikes right. You should have spots. Don't make no damn sent it. Just it just doesn't. And i mean it goes with all aspects of people you are who you are and whether it be for better for worse you people have to understand and respect and i think that's just that's what the level of disrespect that a lot of men are almost afraid to say because they get vilified and it goes down team young age. You know like understanding again call now. He's wrong be accountable but it don't tell him that he's not man enough. Trust me the world's gonna make us a man before even know it. 'cause i got actually this question now. Is that in your comedy. Do you put that into your comedy. These relation to dynamics i will. I'll you know what i have. Well i did talk about one thing about age ages of big thing where i feel like a women. They engaged Because you know how it is like let me ask you this question as a as a woman what state the sweet by aid for. Y'all like you'd be like. Oh yeah. I'm like the sexiest Sell hard because i think every year like it changes because i think it's also to like how a woman looks and carries herself like how she feels about her appearance. That's what i think. That's my answer woke if you had to put a number to it though okay. That's the film added a sweet spot for a man who was the sweet spot age for a man. It'd be like you know what. I'm at a good place like pools on this way. You know pool that way like what's the good age shiv right now. Monica tree eight eight three eight. So yeah today. Best sweet spot for all member. Probably be around twenty five if i okay by when you you know you done with school you got a little bit dayton under your belt pie got some some money your pocket starting to plan for the future. You've got your your man confidence going so high. I would say thirty. I was going to say what do you say. Like maybe like dirty. Because i told her about this. And it's crazy because like men so for men like you know like you like twenty nine. You may be the girl who's going to be thirty two thirty three. She bad young good good five and she was like so late man. What's your sign. You know you go okay you how birthday. Oh you twenty nine. I but that you turn thirty like okay because thirty eight whereas like still cool enough the till the younger girls with an older woman. See me as like okay. Possible range to you could be twenty nine years and three hundred fifty five days it just something about it and being women you know You know what. I just wanted to say that that is true. Only because like our parents have told us that like younger men they just. They're not there yet. The maturity is there yet right cells. Were women you're thirty one thirty two and you meet a guy like twenty nine twenty savvy. The possibilities that he's looking for marriage are slim so you want to. That's on on is about. Is that like thirty. Plus age men start to think about day one family. Who and that's about the time because i feel men and i don't know whether this is true or not you guys tell me. But it's not until they wanna family that they start to really dig into the value of women right and so that's for me been problematic because you'll hear a lot of minutes. Oh what's her value. What it's our values between her legs and all of this right but it's not until they want a child and they realize that you need that woman to have a child now she becomes value. Now you want to know about what she thinks she cares about and what she's passionate on. She does all day what her interests are right also is to good back guy. We all went sex. We all want sex at the end of the day. I think where it's like this since person cool enough divide with like i commend my sister right like lawsuits by wake probably a dope. His wives ever ever seen you know why because she plays video games. You see i mean you get on something like call. Duty grand theft auto. She into it man like. It's just like i think most muslim don't understand. I think patrice on the head is one joe. He said he's a ladies. Let's just say some bad accident and you pussy bro. you couldn't use it agile. And he said what would you do. How would you please your man allays like anal oral. Say all of that and he said he joked about me. Justifying y'all but georgia's relegated you also series of. Don't play video games or you know. Bring bringing in nothing. Are you going to be mad me. But it's just some of those things i think. Go back women don't really understand but also knowing anything he wants me what i wanna do. Horse reality shows condemn baykal sit down reality shows. I wouldn't wanna watch that lovely all time here. You should on these sticks and found out. We can make this a fun game. I guarantee you if you did that with the man you like and all my best friend you. My best friend is done because she started kicking. You ask what you like it though you like it or you like. I bet you can't do. Y'all making fun you just you just when the nintendo don't we came out at yo yo aloe so many women i was like fuck. I came here four before i leave. You know definitely want some way to eat a how you should not be commute on that. Know ladies and gentlemen to listen episode. One sixty three podcasts. We are just so dope. I don't even know how to put into words. I appreciate you come and you dropped a lot of juice that you made me think about some real things and i think it's gonna make listen to think about some things so we definitely want that feedback shadow. Chris paul what can they follow you on. I you the. Chris austin studied website. Be ready chris. Austin comedy dot com so being a lookout any new performances. Anytime soon. anything going on. Well yeah. i'm going to start to do some sketches. Okay we'll be looking for that you know later on this year so it's just get the right team content take care of the kids and all that good stuff you know. That's like day all the coronavirus people out here still doing things. I definitely appreciate by for the grind. You know in this everybody. Keep working hard and You know y'all see me out. There awesome awesome awesome. 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CS 263: Reel Black Pt. 1 feat. Michael J. Dennis (04/19/2020)

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CS 263: Reel Black Pt. 1 feat. Michael J. Dennis (04/19/2020)

"Blackburn Broadway must have some Palestinian shit and the funny thing is they pretend is for you. They had that one or two blackout nights. We're in. It's almost kind of insulting these parade you out for a photo opportunity by dislike. What's the point having two nights? Let you take photos that and say look what what the diversity we're bringing to Broadway. If the other three months of the show I just as lily white as any other Broadway show. It's More insulting while applying for grants. Because I don't I don't WanNa be the representative of all black people in terms of my art and it's a real struggle just to get to the point of feeling like I can do things freely without feeling the repercussion of or backlash. You know that that the the people that feel unrepresented. One solid piece of work are going to feel if it doesn't speak to them or doesn't resonate for them so it was interesting one of these that I observed coming out of that whole being was no one wanted to in terms of the black I guess for lack of better term will call it journalistic aspect. No one wanted to be the first person to step out and give their thoughts unabashedly about that. That show on noticed that a lot of the commentary there was coming out of that. Were people saying I still have the process pissed. I don't know what I just saw knowing kind of wanted to step out and give an opinion until they saw some they were kind of waiting for that was his might take they kinda were waiting for someone else to say something and then they were all going to just kinda take their cues and go from there so I just found I can serve. Good aren't though. Think I to provoke something you know and get the emotion starring in and make you process. I mean I had a lot of conversations after the show talking to people and some you know some of it was angered but yeah the biggest thing is the play really. Doesn't have a Qatar at least off Broadway and see the Broadway version. So I saw it off Broadway as well. you're on Broadway version? But I'll talk about them after. Yeah but you know I mean I think you know. Part part of the role of of art is to provoke and to to get people triggered but I think the way. It resolved itself was unsatisfying. It was like you know it's it's there was no advancement terms of like she kinda conceded all our power to this guy to me at the end of his like. Whoa you will never understand. And it's like okay. Well okay but but he gets have his cake and eat it too. You know his whole thing is he's not a bad white guy. Yeah I'm I'm very glad that I'm talking to somebody who actually saw because part of the problem is I have to kind of convey what I saw and you know try to finish it opinion on it. So this is kind of refreshing. 'cause you know not a lot of people can easily see something off off Broadway. 'cause it's a regional thing not like a film but what you said. I think is very right but I think I think is what Mario was trying to say because he's talked about this with me before. Is that the people talk about Mario of. I'm getting the words your sentiment wrong by means. Correct me What you trying to say is that there's a lot of talk about the processing and all this stuff but then nobody ever comes back and says what they got. After the processing was overcame it becomes an exercise just for the sake of the exercise in in it. Seems like there's just this vascular nature to the whole thing where it's nothing of merit really comes out you know. I don't know I like I like I like how you broke the conversation down to send to the nature of the history of black theatre. I know scars my say the nature of the history of black theatre saw. Broadway's always been what they call the great white way for a reason. You know so so when you start to see stories. I mean August Wilson. Yeah he's he speaks that we did a podcast what he's like. Look when you start spending the money around so that you're encouraging black voices and they don't have to pander to this imagining then you'll get worked. That's actually more truthful resonates you know but a lot of this is just as Charles. Woods would say black films. Reactionary never proactive so So everything that exists. We have a chance to look at it as a reaction to something and right now. A lot of it was Black lives matter and Oscar so white so and Metoo. So we're getting. We're getting a lot of that right now but these cycles and waves and I can tell you right now at this virus thing. This money's going to tighten up for everybody and can be left on their own. So you know get used to fucking free concerts on instagram with Teddy Riley. Because that's all we're going to have for a little while until they you know we find a way to support one another because quite frankly I mean you know they when they look at those Netflix numbers. Food for the shows they put on there. They know exactly who you are but they they're not catering to you. They're trying to find those. Things are going to trend and Get PRESS FOR THEM. You know 'cause that's that's their paradigm not about getting a whole bunch of black people to show when we had where we pick here is shut them down right those some shooting the first weekend at some bullshit you know so so we know we have to figure out how to do better for ourselves and then start see better work. I think but anyway when when you know how how did you WANNA start? This man is all up to you. We are honored to have your grace presents. So it's all fine. This is champagne. Sharks this is T- You could find the show on twitter at champion sharks at that. Hashtag and we have with. Mario was going on everybody tomorrow. You can find me on twitter at MD. Seventy nine awesome. And I think Ken might be joining us later. He's our other CO hosts so we haven't checked in when he when he comes in. But we have our guest Michael Dennis from the Youtube Channel Real Black and if you can introduce yourself where to find you at real. Black Art E. E. L. B. L. A. C. K. everywhere on instagram and twitter. I don't mess with facebook anymore. But that's a that's a whole different story. But if you if you just Google real black you generally find me. I in that's R. E. E. L. B. L. A. C. K. Correct yeah like removing real and then black you know identity is sir. I'm now at US bunch of things to talk to you about but we already started going some interesting directions. I THOUGHT BE INTERESTING. Just kind of close that out. Let me let me just set. People may cause I'm I thank you as one hundred privileged to be a part of the champagne sharks and I listened to a lot of the other content looked at the subjects. And it's like. Wow this is going to be a fun. Discussion so You know just for people that don't know Make films but also promote films in Philadelphia and Youtube Channel is an offshoot of a TV show. That I started on public access here to document. Filmmakers and artists people that were deserving recognition and. We started that about two thousand seven on Youtube as well and now. I'm happy to report because we have sort of Migraine and a lot of what I was doing in terms of monthly screening series over to Youtube Channel and we post every day new content. Were we crossed our five hundred thousand subscribers mark and We're reaching at this point. Where reaching about a thousand new subscribers a day so so I just wanted to continue and grow growing and get us two million. That was the surprise. Me Too was because I've been following your channel for a while. I always used to find interesting stuff. And it wasn't so recently it was about a week or two ago because. I think you post somewhere a thanks. Congratulations to us for passing. Half a million. When did that happen and they go? What's I I don't have the perception that you do? I mean like I think the last time ever looked at your outerwear account like years ago. I don't remember it being close to that. I was wondering like when did that Spike happened. Was there a certain spike has just been a slow and steady. 'cause I didn't realize you guys hit that level until like The Turkey announced the turning point. Frankly was when when we did the series of interviews with Dick Gregory that those went viral. People were sharing them all over the place. And that's when we started getting attention and also the very first time that I- serialized content. I was I was so adamant in the past about everything being precious of itself. You know like making things to exist for as itself that I didn't recognize that people wanted if they liked you. They wanted more of what what they like. You know and that was the first time because you're from schools. He gave was like so many hours of content and I felt like I can't cut this into five minutes. I have to give this all but I have to break it up. Also that was when sort of the recipe for I. I discovered what a lot of people already knew as Mike Repeatable repeatable. Content is what wins on Youtube and and from there WH- recognizing that and also forces like just the price of cable. Tv started cutting the cord. And and nate started. They had they realize that options to watch exactly what they wanted when they wanted to. You know so you know in a way being in for the long game having a long tail big inventory when people start to discover the channel and they see we're posting things. Every day they decide to subscribe. And then you know that information gets shared you know. Sorta like You know we reached a tipping point basically when we had one hundred thousand subscribing center plaque in and that was two years ago the end of December of last year we had three hundred thousand subscribers. And now our half million so you know just I think it's a stage is exponential growth but also there's also this this threat that You know dealing with the the youtube copyright rules we we work within the gray area to share things but it also puts us at risk of losing everything. So that's that's the adventure right now. So like Jay z running up and down the turnpike selling drugs so he can go in the studio. You know so yeah. So that's that's exciting part that We WanNa hold people's attention long and open at the same time. Stay focused on the big goals. Which is draws words. Getting his book done getting his movies out. And maybe getting getting some screenplays and some books written so so it's it's IT'S A. It's a good time right now and I appreciate all we about one hundred thousand dollars like the last time. I had happened to glance at your subscriber count so so yeah one hundred. Thousand minutes undercover. Somebody's keeping a secret. But that's very interesting. Is the journey to get to where you can decide. Okay this is the type of content that your audience wants to hear that you settle into because we went on a similar journey and in some ways. We're kind of still on that journey because you know we ourselves have gone through some some Some changes recently do various things and so some of the things that we like to touch on earlier when the show first began are are not necessarily what we're talking about right now and it seems like our audience kind of appreciates where we go with certain things and they really liked the content. That's a little more raw in loose. As opposed to things get kind of stuck in the routine on a loop talking about the same things over and over again so. That's kind of been interesting to hear you discuss how you kind of went through that. And they had settled on which you settled into. You know to similar joining a lot of well. I guess some working on some books one of them is called. I love myself too much to hate black people. But some awnings knickers dot died so title is at the subtitle. That's just the coverage me smiling and then you open up blank and you write the damn book yourself because you know things in reality. You can't please everybody manning when you when you establish yourself and say I'm real black. There's there's a perception that you represent everybody who's black and in I reflect that but at the same time I can't please everybody's expectations you know and and When you get into it with some of the twitter trolls and and things like that. It's a lot. It's very painful when when you're making things from scratch and you're giving away for free and then the first comment some negative stuff. So was complaining. People I'll I'll tell you right now are patriots subscribers and we have patriae on only Chat Room and dischord some of the most pleasant Constructive Conversation you will find and just that Gateway of having to spend five dollars a month so yeah we're talking about like if you're saying are thousand. People looked at this video and two people complain. You know. It's it's one thing if you mind like okay. Here's an old show that you might not know about. But it's a different thing when you're spending hours putting it together and editing it using your skills and your talent to to make it available and then you you get that kind of feedback. And they didn't pay anything but they feel have the right to so. I think at a certain point we stopped doing mini lectures with Charles. I said Charles. Your information is too valuable to skim wing free. Y- I agree and once we made that decision. I said I'M NOT GONNA put eight hours into making the video and get a thousand views when I could just find something you know. People have been deprived of in terms of being having access to it. And it'll get one hundred thousand views. I think that was the shift. And that's when we started to see the numbers grow and you know we still put up things you know the numbers of allowed me to travel and working right now editing. This interview with Antonio Vargas and that was like a bucket list moment for me but you know I had. I had cook good. Galley took a year to reconcile that. The things that I think are GONNA be people being excited about. They're not gonNA care yet. You know so so things yet yet. Yes the sort of trail you know and then maybe somebody if if I get to where I I imagined myself. Being people can look back at this and say okay. That's that was the breadcrumbs you know. Maybe if they're if they have the initiative they can they can do too. But I mean I look at myself as another Youtuber who is trying to get into a bigger Scale but maintain some integrity. You know so you know. It's Nice that people when I've got a fell festivals. Like love that you spoke to able to Rene so early. I love that you spoke to Chris Rock so early. I love that you have Isa Ray before she had her hair straightened or wherever wherever it is you know. Because then that's what you can see yourself and you can You can protect yourself into that bigger vision but a few if everything is just promoting celebrity. And we're going to be where we we're gonNA stay where we are. You know so. Yeah but I really liked that you said yet because I think that's very important mindset lake just because it wasn't popping at first it's very easy to think okay that that didn't work. I'm going to give up on it for good but said Yeah I think is important because I think a Lotta times when you do get popular for something else. That popularity allows you to room or the audience for that stuff. That people weren't ready for yet. You know like you said to now get attention. I'm sure there's a lot of people who by getting in through a lot of your more obscure nostalgic stuff handle proposed Yeah you have to work. I mean I'm anti-establishment but I'm for systems you know so you know I I like subversive things but but I in my own experience things. The things that have hit. I kind of knew instantly that they were gonna hit. Yeah I can tell you exactly how but I just knew so. I've I've been built around the block enough not to not the question that you know but I also know that it's it's very traumatizing. Put My heart and soul into something and then have somebody not like it or say something cruel and I know that. That's that's that's a risk that you have to make yourself vulnerable to Sorta like if you watch the Patrice O'Neal interview. We did that that. He taught me a lot to sitting with him. So you know the minute you say I might lose and it makes everything easy you know. Talk here of approaching a girl or whatever it is. You're not to that fear. Then you're not you're not free. You know so you. You have to like have a path but have you don't have a plan B necessarily but but a realize that you have options in a few if you just put everything on one outcome then it's not gonna work but but if for the right reasons in with the right intentions. I think generally works out eventually and we have now experience now as upload my friends movie we worked on it. I Sat. It's called the Rodney's And put up yesterday. Scotto about two thousand views already and this is a movie that he made. We shot in two weeks. And you know just basically didn't go anywhere and now the technology I uploaded on my platform and I think more people seen it in two days and have seen it. Its entire lifetime before that and people are loving it you know so so you just mean just trump. Just trust that if you have the right intentions. It'll eventually get to where you need to go. Have you seen the movie? Gattaca? GotTa that's in Hawk and number. Yeah what we started having escort. Live entertainment release I'm thinking no I. I'm thinking of the movie with The J. from The crying Game Gatica. What's that one? Oh well Gatica was an murray. Said you've seen this. There's something said what you talk with new. They reminded me of a scene. Gatica will engage. Annika it's about people can stamp from birth with on genetic potential like they kind of scan you and from birthday. Oh you have top potential or you're good enough in the basement your genes to be good so you can slotted into your place into the world slided in this level you up becoming a janitor or worker or whatever and carry the car that shows your potential. This guy takes the identity of somebody who's considered like one of the higher genetic people when a genetic leads and he lives his life as like a masquerade pretend to beat his person but he makes it to that higher the he wasn't supposed to make it you know but his brother is one of those people who was born with a high genetic potential but something that he and his brother used to do growing up right. These do this race a swimming race across the pond. Ethan Hawke with keep beating his brother and his brother get mad because he's supposed to be the better one and his brother is just getting really frustrated. Dragon Ball with Like you know. He can't can't catch this guy ever for his life and so finally while the swimming and this will happen every time the brother would stop and turn back and then sort of Bertha does it again. He stops turning back but as he's turning back he yells the Ethan hockey goes. How did you keep doing this? How did you keep beating me all the time? No matter what they sent and Ethan. Hawke is still going forward and he said I never saved anything for the trip back back. What you said with Patrice O'Neal about if you believe that you. Can you know if you if you believe that I can fail or whatever but I'm GonNa go forward anyway you know? Yeah well it opens up a lot of stuff but that brother. He couldn't accept the fact that he might fail. He'd rather go back and tell himself. Maybe if I kept going it would have worked out given that mental out. What the well. That's every hero's journey. Joseph Cambell you know you have to confront your fears your fears if you don't. Your fear will manifest. You're going to be forced to deal with things and I think you know as a nation when they say Almeida created equal that's that's an ideal but it's not. There's nothing true about it you know. I think everybody is stamped individual you know. We're we're our own limited edition and I think you benefit if you find purpose and it doesn't necessarily mean it's your fate. Just find something you love and get good enough at it. So that that it motivates your day and then and then the the magic starts to happen but the yeah the minute you start to bind up somebody else's belief and not take accountability for yourself or your own and and take accountability. Be responsible for your own actions. That's when the BLAME GAME. Start and you start you know. And I'm not saying things don't exist. I mean you know I you know white supremacists a real thing and it needs to be aware of how were manipulating controlled by and you know right now my intentions. I'm working on these bigger things. My my main thing is i. Don't want black film to devolve into mumble rap. You know so. It's important for me to share what? I know and provide information on on a level scale and let people just have to information and then they can decide what they want and then the second thing you know because in my experience is not in my experience. It's you know if I if I was concerned about artists I'd starve. You know if I was just trying to feed artists and give people information. Make their work better. I would start because everybody's got this weird ego thing going but audiences have kept me in business so I think it's important to remind people of what that feels good to be black and give give people a reason to ignore some of this news you know But not up. There look day and seeing some ignorant thing on instagram or or being told them lesser than and you know when we when we got set down in December or make before that I think when I interviewed Gary Odin. There was a backlash that I had to take more responsible in. Its wow okay. This is the only one of the few places I should say maybe champagne sharks is another one if you placing go every day on the Internet and discovered positive and good things about yourself and and maybe educate yourself a little bit in the process sewn so I take those two things on my mantle. I just you know I. I know how some coaches get exploited and I. I can see coming where if we don't raise the bar a little bit. We could have bas- basically all all your favorite instagram mumble rappers. Being The star of a movie and then back gets promoted and then that becomes the paradigm because it made a lot of money and then you get ten years an that. So I'm trying to trying to find that out. I think the Mumbo ramp can be okay if there's balanced for it but I think there's been a hollowing out of the middle where things are either link Mumbo rap for black people or it's Something that's candidate Blackish or something where it's it's kind of made for Prime time and kind of. I don't want these snobby but you have to follow the money. You know what I mean. Yeah like the the hood is. I want to get rich. You know so if there's a lane where you really don't have a lot of talent you just have to have a vibe or or wave and you'd have to work hard necessarily to get attention you know you're going to see people do that and then a lot of stuff to get to get some level where you're invited into a boardroom to pitch a TV show you got you gotTa have certain credentials you know and you have to be able to talk a certain way and and maybe your perception of the world is blackish like you know these guys. Say if you're if you're if you're second third generation rich not wealthy but rich and now you're starting to see your kids not grown up with the same struggle you did than that. That's what comes from your heart. Now you know. Do you accept or reject it from your own perspective. That's a as an audience member. That's a different question. You know what what's put up for your entertainment. The same question was raised. I don't know if you guys saw color. Adjustment Marlon Riggs movie. Nah I saw ninety monitoring meat we tend. Everything's reactionary so we tend to get one flavor black at one time at any given time. We were only introduced a one or two flavors you know. I think a lot of black artists and filmmakers. They're happy to have the bigger box of crayons remember when I was younger. You know it's like a big deal to you know school would be starting in third grade. You get that eight hundred twenty eight box of Krill. You know he's like I'm a you know by the same twelve colors that were in the first box of crayons you got are the ones that are worn down. You've never used off hundred twenty dollars you know so. So we finally get the big box of crayons and we're replicating a lot of what what we wish we had seen when we're younger. What what we wished we had but it still to me. It's still not enough but but I think quality trumps everything and the smart people are GonNa win. You know so helps keep dumbing down the culture just for the sake of more people getting rich. And they don't know what to do with the money or they don't. They don't perpetuate it so that other people can be a successful. And then you have the Sorta by envy and jealousy that Stigma House Negro Field Negro things so I I just don't I house. They grow fueled Niro thing. I think been that we talk about. Kenges Kendrick joined US our other CO host Kenny was going on your hair but I was gonNA say Part of that. When you talked about the blackish types that get into these managed to get into meetings with executives and things like that versus you know like the hood and and you know the things that you have to try to get rich by any means necessary mentality or what have you you know when we talk about the. Black Ish type things I noticed you know from my own work in the community and things like that that it takes a certain level of discipline in that you have to be able to play the game in order to get placed in these situations where you have the so-called seat at the table and it ended up with self is it. It does take a certain level of discipline in order to get there. Because I know me I come from a poor background. I grew up in the hood and everything like that and I noticed that I I just. I didn't have the patience to play those games. And a Lotta Times. I noticed that those people knew that like the people like me. They knew like okay. We put a certain amount of hoops. We can do this. That and play certain political games and I know that little field negroes. They'll drop back eventually because they'll get tired of it you know. And they'll make a mistake due to their lack of For lack of a better term discipline in order to move forward and so I was wondering like did you notice that in your work as well and what you've been doing over the years I haven't a different perception of it but the same you know I mean I think I just don't want to buy into that nonsense at this point because there's more land available you know where the fighting at this point because everybody is in the same position essentially with the Internet to reach directly to the people that matter to to them. You know it's not about you know getting being a ratings hit or or any of that stuff. It's just you know if you can go directly to the people that that care the most and if as an artist is independent artist you know. The the thousand fans thing is is the most realistic paradox. I mean for me. I'm trying to get this thing to a million because I want the voice of the information. That's on there amplified. I want many people to know that stuff is out there. So they don't waste their time watching stuff over and over again that that they've already digested. So we're we're trying to discover rediscover talent and make people more aware that the conversations that are being had been had generations previous and and then you know it's up to you you know how how deep you want to go to break your cycles but Yeah I don't know I mean. Yeah it's it's real me. I want to Sundance and you know black. People were so arrogant at maybe not even want to be there in like you know they. Nobody has business cards. And you know it's some sort of invisible competition belief that you know if you don't have I mean in his business I mean clearly. You know if you're not in a position make money for somebody they have no reason really talk to you in a in a space like that but at the same time. If there's only five black people there we should all be in. But that's the problem. My personal experience is I'm the kind of person that I will travel in all black circles or all white circles and one thing I noticed. Is that when it's all black room? The is a little different bilad attorney when you're in a room with mostly white people in his only a handful of back people. A lot of black people treat life like I'm competing with the other black person in the room. They don't try to think of the whole room competition or think. Hey that there's supposed they can't compete with white people because or or competing for the way people that's the other thing too is that they can't compete with real people or they feel like. I'm competing against black people who are easier to compete wide attention attention the WHITEN will instead of West probably a lot better to think and get into trouble a lot right where I used to have this habit right where it when I saw on the a few people in the room and I'm like Oh there's less of us let's get together. We're strength in numbers. We need to be together more than ever so I would seek the person in the room and after a couple times having a really negative experience with that I started realizing. Wait a minute. These people see me as more of a threat than you see the white people. Even though adver fracturing power or resources as the white person it kind of forced me to kind of have to react that way like now when I see another black person in the room of white people after suss out whereas before but assumed that you know we had a common goal to Suss out. Is this person going to be someone? That's going to be an ally or is GonNa be the person who views who's GonNa try to come out from under me. That is a great observation. Because I you've we have these conversations all the time and I've noticed the exact same thing. I went through the exact same process. You know From thinking We all have similar interests. Let's get together in half the strength in numbers. Elliott realizing that their systems even with a month's black people there you know certain for lack of a better term hierarchies in place that they'll follow to the to the detriment a lot of times to the entire group because they feel like you know we're here you're there that's your place over there. We belong here. We have these contacts. Every it's a weird thing to realize you know I think a lot of US buy into this paradigm that white people feel feed us which is only room for one of you at a time when dad time and instead of getting together and saying no expanded to three or four of us a lot of us would think will okay this except okay. This is get a time so I I gotTa make sure. It's me with the problem. The problem is like with the the one at a time method. If that you know if you said to all black fuck you. Let's just storm the house. You Know San Forget one time listeners. I'M GONNA go through the window. You go through the back door. You come to the roof. They feel like that is watered down. It's not as good if everybody's in a well I I would say you know. That's that's all part of the plan. The nature of racism disease is divine conquer. That's how they got us but and the the reality is we not come over on the same boat and the bravest of jumped overboard because they weren't afraid to die so where we are now is how do we save. Ourselves is obvious right now. Nobody cares about anybody and they will pick your bones. You know once you're debt you know how people still even offer Michael Jackson. Kimmel loved them now. The the finding ways than hate him you know and so get money off this guy you know so so the you know very very few of us to get to be the best of US but There's a torch that should be carried and if if we if we can have access to history you know because a lot a lot of us like what what what the beauty of the channel. You had a chance to talk to so many elders sort of One of things Harry. Belafonte would say as each generation is responsible for its own. And what what tends to happen? I think is at such a tough thing. You can beat down and then society has a way discrediting you and then you lose sight of the compliments of of of the previous generations. You know and coming artists. I remember when at my age early. I didn't grow up in the seventies where I knew the seventies I grew up. I was born in sixty nine. I new James Brown but when Eddie Murphy did the hot tub and his on delirious that became my perception of James Brown. It wasn't until I got to college and I got a hold of the star time box set and I listened to that guy's body of work our way through as well as cows freaking genius. He wasn't just a carried himself. You know and I think a lot between the fact that we end up building up heroes tear them down. You know The Rick James of the world become jokes and you know bill. Cosby's a big punch line now. We we lose sight of the legacies and then also within our own family structure. You know either. We grew up around with bunch. Ignorant people like the Greg would say that really did no more. You like my my. My family there so intent was to go to college. They didn't tell me how to navigate through it. You know build relationships through it. It was just get get your degree. Get your diploma side. You know coming out. Everybody has their own lessons to learn about real life but it was a little more difficult for me because I saw. I saw all these white kids succeeding in major ways. That were right next class. You know and I think that's gives me my perseverance. Is that you know I went to school with Brett Ratner. I went to school with Todd. Folks I help program a film festival with him. You know I knew Allow these people the all the people from the state you know the the David Wayne's of the world nyu you know someone. I mean they've made billions of dollars for Hollywood and literally. There was a moment when I was like you said you gotta gotTa you know in the same race with these people so I don't have any lack of confidence in terms of my talent. And that's that's what's kept me in it but you know to get to get back to what I was saying. I mean you have to. You have to overcome your level of ignorance at a at a certain level and I think at this point that divide and conquer it should we should. We should let some of that go because I I can show you newspapers from the thirties when people were saying. There's enough black theaters in this country. We're talking about segregation this. Like five hundred years show nothing black films in three years million pictures will control all of us and of course you know. It didn't happen and a half of their films that they made or lost time. You know the can't even find principal history thing about that though. Take for example. The Negro League right people realized how popular the Negro League was kind of popular perception. The Negro League was lesser talented than been the major league. Baseball people think that Oh People think I mean it wasn't called Major League Baseball at the time. It was a different differently but but people always think that particular race racist people think it was a matter of people being good enough to make it to The major leagues and that In that Jackie Robinson was the best but enough people argued. Jackie Robinson wasn't even the best person. Yeah yeah he was just the most marketable I mean. He was very talented but it was He was he was. He wasn't even top thirty still rookie of the year in the major leagues when he got there. So you can talk to white baseball players from the Daffy Dean Dizzy Dean. They will play against those bars. These are hall of Famers and the Negro Leagues would play against these teams in. Bt They beat the hell out of him. Yeah Walter Johnson. All of them. They all played against the new release. Got Bashed got smoked every summer if they got smoke. Yeah Yeah they would have exhibition games and they made a lot of money as well but a lot of people theorized that what really messed it up was people think of Jackie Robinson. As being this great thing that happened because he broke the cutter barrier was integrated but a lot of people said once the color barrier was broken and more and more town in started entering Major League Baseball It kind of sucked the life out of the Negro Leagues and now the Negro Leagues couldn't couldn't survive. Because you know there's a lot that thing of the ICEMAN. The White Man's Isis colder. You know so some people think if the Negro Leagues stuck to his guns and just kept putting out superior product producing better athletes. It could very look for I. I mean we just put up a Jackie Robinson Court Martial Jackie Robinson yesterday and while people commenting like fat but you know I think integration was a good thing. It's just when you give away your power and exact recognize. I mean the problem. Was you know the White Man's ICES colder so when you indoctrinate? People into a belief system of capitalism the nature of capitalism is to drain every potential resource. And then until it's gone and then find another thing to rate and drain you know so when you don't put back into the land in a growing people and making them smart on when we were when we couldn't go to Harvard or Princeton or whatever we we thought nothing of it we we had our own pride you know and I think you know when when we start buying into the eurocentric belief system and discarding our own which was stolen from us. Most of us don't have any real sense of we know a real name right so I think that's really a problem but I think it's much better to not you know. We also put a Bessie Smith. The her rumor was that she died because she's a car accident and the white Hospital was closer. Wouldn't servicer so they had to travel further and it cost her life. You know so signed much rather be able to have those options than now and so the white true like Macken. Glad will had this podcast. Revision History He referred to this book and it was pretty interesting. Was the book about Versus Board of Education and had a lot of interviews. That you don't really see the white history books by Braves Board of Education and what was interesting was the families and Brown versus board education. They said we actually a lot of people think that the problem was that our schools were inferior. We actually the schools that we were sending our kids to had great teachers great education. We really love. The teachers really loved the education. The problem was we didn't think it was to send our kids to commute like ours when there was a school down the block. They could go to so they're like we were happy to get our kids into this school but it wasn't that we thought. Oh being around white people is its own reward like by the Moses of exposure to white people. We're going to our kids going to absorb something like a spine. That's good that they're not getting from being around black people but Was saying was and what the people that are in Were saying was that. We don't like this narrative that people are just kind of assume has become like natural thought that they think the bass cool was inferior and saying thank you nothing wrong. Good to have the option is just when people think that the option is better just because it's white is when the I think the trick the trick of white supremacy is to get black people in stuck in this mode of constantly having to prove to them that we are as good or better than so automatically puts us in this mindset of their are the bar and we're going to have to constantly prove that we can exceed that that bar if so when you get stuck in that mindset. It could lead all kinds of of sick behavior in in a in a a perpetual inferiority complex because feel like you have to prove it all the time so they are always the bar in competition instead of yourself being your own bar in your own competition you know we kinda got Saddam currently people paradoxical about that too is in in the act of trying to prove it you kind of end up believing it because sometimes get to almost believe that you're inferior to be obsessed with proving that you're in the night of it best beauty of the system because a lot of black people think the same is not the same thing I used to think that that's why integration was about the black schools were worse. I had to learn by discovering better form of history books and contemporaneous interviews to find out that basketball are actually very good but I assume that I was taught that good in the sense that you had teachers resembled you. That took an interest in. You weren't just going to throw you in the dust pan the minute you got an F. You know what caliber education too like? They were saying that you know they they. They were learning what they were supposed to be. Learning at certain is today to What's his gas? I'm having a brain freeze right now. Thomas Soul Remember Him. Speaking on that he was saying that he went to the Black. Schools is entire child life in them when they moved a started going to the white schools. He said when he got there and he found that you know he was a little bit behind in terms of competing educationally. It didn't take long for him to catch up in surpass. Those kids that were that were at the better funded white schools. So that's kind of like your to your point. T is that even if they were somewhat resource-starved in that's what the cause was for them being a quote unquote inferior. They weren't that far behind in terms of overall Rigorous in academic ability yet. The school might be dilapidated. You know because it wasn't getting the funding that is true but the actual like education was not as what we were led to believe growing up in the narrative. They Start Mike. I'm sorry actor for you get your point. I think I think the thing no look at it. It's just thumb. Some perception were coming from if you identify yourself as African American. Basically coming from a legacy. We're basically if if you weren't ahead of the game before slavery ended and you know this is the problem. I have with the HCC documentary so like there are no educated blacks until slavery ended and we had to create our own. That's that's that's mythology too because there were lots of educated black people Who were not slaves prior to eighteen sixty five. You know but I would say you know. We're we're in a position where we do have power. We just don't always utilize it in terms of you know we're in a capitalistic society. They're they're going to replicate what they perceive as selling and I think if you're an artist or out to procure you you don't necessarily have to compete for the masses anymore again. La- gained back two thousand true fans. If you the concept there is if you have a thousand people that would give you hundred dollars a year. to support your art. You're making a hundred thousand dollars. Who what artists in America can't live on hundred thousand knows year it it you know when you break things down on that level then who wants who needs to be a millionaire. You work your way up to a million baby but if you just worked towards getting a thousand people to share hundred dollars of of their resource or whatever it is time effort to help you sustain yourself. You know. In ten years you will have made a million dollars in your art so so I think the bigger the bigger thing if you look at a my Angela interview on the channel and also what he king talks about it. It's like when when our parents. Yes my as somebody dropped the ball. It's like when we start to believe that sending your kids to Harvard or Princeton. Yale was the be all and end. All babies got a degree. He's going to be a doctor. Whatever and then you don't factor and all the other issues student loan debts and Just opportunities that are are less or other things that are part of systemic garage to I think. Psychologically token on basically central kiss the wolves you you've brainwash them into believing that they were the same or equal to these white kids without giving them the factors of that that would institute self pride and you know. It's lucky you know now when I was at a time in college was in New York you know. Yeah the teaching US Sergey. Eisenstein Chong US Orson Welles and Dwi Griffith but at the same time on the streets public enemies having cares one is speaking at the black student. Union and and also fishbone and so much diversity in terms of black culture in the late eighties early nineties. our wish would back. But you know we you know. It got commodified and a lot of a lot of the more conscious. Efforts fell off and and you suddenly ice cube in family comedies and Queen Latifah next Steve Martin. It's like okay. That's not necessarily what I expected. But more power to them if they're making some money but then then for the next generation didn't grow up in that time they looked straight outta compton. All of a sudden these misogynous Gangsta rappers. Frigging freedom fighters. Come ON GET OUT HERE. You know so. I think I think you need you. Need to be able to lay things out and and see everything as as a bigger tapestry than what we're getting you know when we're only getting one image or two inches of ourselves at a time. And they fall into these. He sort of stereotypes. You know the like you said the hood version of ourselves of the upwardly mobile version of ourselves. You know it'd be great if we could see a wider range of broader diversity and then pick and choose. What what we WANNA be from that. But you know that's going to be struggling and economic power that's a whole nother discussion. You know But right now frustrates me so much of well prior to this all the theaters being shut down. I think spicy had something to do with it when they wouldn't let them into the Knicks game. Like I'm never gone to a knicks game recipe season and like a weekly of the whole season all NBA has cancelled. I was like Oh my God I hope. Spike had nothing to do with that but You know so you. We JUST HAVE TO RECOGNIZE OUR POWER FOCUS. Focus our energy into specific goals and not buy into this. Divide and conquer of okay. This didn't speak to me but at the same time speak. Speak out against things that that are working against us. You know and there are a lot. There are a lot of things that we really should not be have sold to us and be willing to buy. What is your background before you started making the channel like like before you even get to the evolution the channel. 'cause you've touched on it here and there throughout this talk but I don't think you've said it all at once like I know film school was there and I think The film school thing can shows the change of your prostate channel. Because you said that you were thinking that you had to make everything into one complete thing and I think it's probably evidence of thinking like a film and you can have to break out of it you know to Suck thinking by the rules of online. This is not a film. This is online. The rules are different more like TV. Is Lamar episode? It gets a little more. I'm I kind of want to get into the technology's not model that background that you had before you made this channel and to kind of change how you thought about certain things you know going from that background to this current pace of being online. Well I mean my. My story is extremely lucky. Came in at a time when the door was starting to open again. You know if I was born two or three years earlier it wouldn't have been the same later. Wouldn't have been the same high was like movies and I think Sophomore Year of high school in House. Just Junkie for and had between Like John Hughes or John Landis because we we'd have any black movies before spike Lee and then She's gotTa have it and how suffer came out in eighty seven And that that sort of shifted my the opportunities and goals for me. But I but I knew I want because Spike Lee and Jim Jarmusch. I said this and why use the place I'm going to go. I applied to schools Tupper University and muchly three Ucla and and Nyu And I got an nyu and That was the beginning and a lot of kids. Some also at nyu figure eight hundred ninety one or so ninety three really because it took took a long time to finish my last foam but A lot was happening. Not only in New York City but in film knows the epicenter of Music video production and a lot of hip hop labels. Lot of my friends wrote for the source when it when it first moved to New York boat source officers. Were down the street so my Mattie. See who discovered biggie was a classmate of mine Black American music class would sit in the back and talk and stuff and just had had good opportunities. I in at the Broadway video which was Lorne Michaels company. I interpreted the black filmmaker foundation and I was an intern on the ritual cosby. Show new. Allow Piloting Rachel. True was a stand in at the time and you know so I was around a lot of could people. There was a sense of community. I could kinda see because on the inside but still young how how worked a little bit. You know so so with the black filmmaker foundation. When House party came out. That's why I became aware of it at the end credits. It was like special. Thanks to the black filmmaker vanish like. There's a black filmmaker. Foundation saw went down there and got a chance to sort of meet. Whatever the the burgeoning scene wasn't your independent filmmakers there that were all trying to get on that same ride that spike it and at the same time they were sharing offices with William Greaves. Who at the time? I just knew his old guy but I found out later. He's a legend in terms of documentary filmmaking and and when they may the next cycle tax plan yeah the actually the the bff premiered the film as a film that was sitting in a drawer for like fifteen years and then he decided dust it off and it was instantly proclaimed a classic. It's one of the few black films if you WANNA call the call them that on the Criterion Collection as William Uses Movie Hugo Symbiosis Psycho Tax Plaza. Yet take one and take to. Yeah I mean people like him and and Ossie Davis and Melvin van. Peebles these people that had circumvented the system in order to be able to make films in declare themselves filmmakers. So so you got the touch them and then you know urban world I think I got an to F I and Around that time in your can start it and I would go every year because it was it was close to Philly and every year. I was like excited. I can do better but I you know I'd have resource. I really spent my last penny to get to get to film score. Finish a film cost so much more money now. I mean it's a can of ten minutes of Film Sixteen Millimeter Films. One hundred dollars and then a lab even staples in focus was another hundred dollars and then to rent esteem back. You know so. You know long for short when foul pro came out and somebody told me for ten thousand dollars. You could have a video camera and edit and it'll be broadcast quality that's when was the first liberating moment. I got all that stuff. Within two years I had five movies. Circulating and phone calls Four shorts and one feature documentary were playing festivals but I. I didn't have a plan to make money. I was like. Oh this happened express myself so now. They brought me to the attention. It gave me the opportunity to travel at the time. There was no film festival in Philadelphia. Committed the black film. I saw the amount of work that it would take to put a yearly festival together. I didn't want to do that. And I but I was invited to do. A monthly screening series on that was December of two thousand three we started with the screening of Claudine which was just starting to come out on. Dvd was the very first time it was on ever release was never on vhs. So if you're going to imagine a free screening standing room only one hundred twenty people who are getting tendency caudine in a pristine print free of charge. You know so so much energy in the room and it's like from from day one was hit to writing. Never got a VHS. Release well if you had house it was after the DVD. Or right right right. That's one of those things we were just showing you know account Saturday night and That's the way of the world. Those were the early things to get people hooked. And then as I started traveling going festivals and meet filmmakers. I would invite them to the screening series and we got love sex and eating the bones which has stolen my favorite movies and You Know Pete. Chapman and Doria missing came and showed premium. And you know so this is like mid to thousands and then Industry caught win that we could pre whatever yield that I my mailing lists with such where I could send a blast out a day before and get one hundred people show up so now. I'm being asked to introduce movies. Were black actors. You know 'cause that was that was the beginning of the wave. Two thousand five two thousand six. We saw another resurgence of black movies. Howson low and I Out Carrie Washington. We introduced them. I think I love my wife and she came and met everybody and Nick. Cannon came for the underclassmen and you know these were really big moments for a Lotta people To be in a movie theater to see a movie for the first time and have like the actor of the star involved or get like a t shirt or something out of it and that just helped us build a reputation you know and then did that for sixteen years just and then it started trickle off but at the same time our youtube numbers were growing. And you know that institute another way I was able to travel again like I said bucket list moments go meet Antonio Fargos beat Roger Cormon Creek content for the channel on the road instead of waiting for people to come to Philadelphia. I have the opportunity. Now where prior to all the stuff to to be able to go people first hand and and Try to try to get some movies restore from the from the resources I have now. You know sort of like a an not an also avenue a you know that was a big big big moment You know getting a business with her because she was she sound. Dvd's south the trunk of her car. And then she said I wanna I WANNA bring you know. We're on the same festival circuit. She's like I want to bring everybody together in her genius. Move was like well. What constitutes a national release. It's having your movie opened the same day in multiple cities is like. I've already done that in festivals. What if I got all the festivals together and they showed movies the same day and we got press. She did that. Ra Yeah Yeah so her. First movie I will follow. That was that was something that we didn't in the comb. Eleven cities ultimately. I think we were the first five cities I wanNA make. Sure you don't Blow past that. Because that's that's pretty interesting. So basically she figured out the definition of what counts as a national release in kind of gamed the system maker thing a national release like Shannon big studio to release a bunch of places and make a national release she just got coordinated with a bunch of places to release it the same day in multiple cities and then that made it a national release. Also you have to look at technology. The movies I mean it couldn't happen ten years before because everybody was still invested in film protection thirty five millimeter projection. So so but by that point you had all these multiplexes that had converted to digital and they had extra screens your twelfth screens and it's digital so. Amc chain was one of the first. Say We want to have one screen devoted to independent filmmakers? If you can show us a business model that proves that if we show your movie here and won't be empty seats then were in you know. So that was that was part of the strategy. Was Okay well instead of putting a million dollars with a marketing behind. A movie in terms of Ad Buys. We're GONNA go grass roots. And you know I you know for me. I knew I could get one hundred people easy so the very the very first programs before we were moving the films had less commercial potential and they had we had to move to one nighters but the first movies we were playing for weeks and I think when we got the middle of nowhere played three weeks in Philadelphia and over the course of time it was playing well probably to it had probably two month run overall but the that that was that attracted notice. I mean she has attracted notice prior to that because in doing the national run of I will follow. She tracked the attention of Roger. Ebert and He gave he gave her cosign going reviews and then Eventually you'll she had the opportunity to. She made her money back. That's the most important thing. She made her money back. And she booked connections from releasing I will follow and she was able to make the film that she intended to make. I was middle of nowhere which was a script that she had. I think Sonali `then and somebody else attached and she'd gone through all the development hell trying to get it made nobody wanted to Give her a break and then she shared enough money. You'd basically put it together a self and she wants Sundance with it. And then you know. That's that's where the Karma comes in. You know her co-star happened to be plan. Martin Luther King but the Lee Daniels dropped out and they need a director us. We'RE GONNA lose the mighty to make the movie so you know. She found a way in two weeks of rent postscript. Get the movie down on on time and under budget and yet that that was her rocket. So that's that's sort of like your your basis of her story. Yes so that's the end. The part one come back next episode for part two. 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He might be drunk?

Doin it! with Danny and Jenny

53:36 min | 6 months ago

He might be drunk?

"I t w i t h t off and getting me off everyone talks about their desert island tunes and and what they could listen to over and over again and put God that's at the top of my list. That's a great song. Yeah. I know it was our oh yeah. Are you familiar with the magic? That is Eli Braden? I I feel like I know the name if you're a Stern fan, you've definitely heard that name because he has written a lot of Odes to Robin's tits. Yeah, all the Robins titties songs every Robinson home. He's an All-Star and I depart from that at all around great guy and you got them if you got them to work clean for you guys. That's yeah. Yeah, I think we have the we have the the one that came with the Tipper Gore label. That would yeah, he took time out from his busy City writing songs schedule to yeah that out for us. So yeah, we're we're thinking about I guess I just talked to him. Yeah be good, but we don't need him today. No, we never need him because we we have each other. But also we have a great guess. Would you like to introduce Our Guest you'll feel like you know Sam better that. I know God. I hate part of it away. You already fucking ruined Danny. Well, one of my favorite stand-ups of all time right now. I'm home or the seriously one of the best working Comics there is right now is everybody like I hate you. I I just started working again like a week ago. This is crazy. Oh, yeah Thursday. And and thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm telling you. I discuss your specials that you've you've had come out on YouTube that I'm so impressed with you and also with Mark Normand wrong with y'all's ability to keep doing comedy during this past year like every time I'll see a video it's like you're on a rooftop. He's at a park reality Mark is Jose Marquez, like my oldest friend and one of my oldest friends in comedy and we used to I've had so many drunk nights with him were I'm like, did you get Montreal this year? And he's like, no did you and I'm like no and if so many nights We're Young where I'm just like your line you're going is like know there's so many nights that I've shared with him that he's like, he just fuels me that guy cuz he's such a hard worker and I've watched him get all the projections but all the good stuff. So that makes me feel extra close to Mark, you know, well that's amazing. It's you'll you'll I definitely know the people like who I came up with on my side of the business and and it was and you're right. It's like sarong. Yourselves with people who are really working hard is the K. I mean and not a lot of luck, you know, you happen to find yourself at the right place in the right time because you know, how long you can I have other friends who who sort of I knew had the potential but they just their their crew is just not motivated phoning it in getting dark as hardcore as you can even tell these hardcore by how long does this stand up? Like there's not there's not five seconds without a laugh. There's like anxiety in his writing you can feel it. I mean, he needs a laugh he needs to be so I was with my friend yesterday mess allocution directed my roof top special and he we're just walking around he was telling me a story about Mark or they were they kept getting bothered by a crazy guy in Times Square and the guy kept bothering and finally Mark turns the guy goes. Hey, we're breaking up and the guy was like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's fantastic. The man said that was just for me. I was I was the only person that joke was more, you know, but I log Those are my favorite jokes, you know, I'll do it in an elevator to embarrass a friend or just absolutely without a doubt one of my favorite things. I was that response also was probably one of the few things that would shut a crazy person down like yes, not a lot of things you could say to a crazy person that makes them just go oh shit. Wow, thoughts and prayers for you. You know like yeah. Mark is is definitely a guy. It's you gotta surround yourself like you were saying you gotta surround yourself with those people that are that are hungry and and just want to be he's so driven by life. I you know not by like just success but like I want to be good at stand-up so that's yeah, that's a good reason to keep them around always know y'all have a podcast to get home. Right? We just started a podcast together call we might be drunk cuz I was like, this is a good disclaimer if we say anything horrible like we might have been drunk. So yeah, we we just we have a it's kind of birth. And that idea that Mark and I used to we used to hang out every night. But then you start doing the road and you kind of start featuring for comics and you start headlining for comics and then you kind of get one night a week together or two nights a week and it would start with like one drink and then it would turn into like all right, one more drink and then we'd look at each other. It was like 6 a.m. In the Fat Black Pussycat which is you know, the satellite room at the Comedy Cellar a New Jersey and we'd be like, oh no one's through us out. We're just here, you know, so that was that was kind of the premise of the podcast. It's just like how we just never could we had so many nice when you're kind of we say like, you gotta get those events out when you're frustrated at the business cuz you don't want to be walking around bitter cuz people smell that stink on you but you gotta get the vents out cuz I mean how many times we just feel passed over and like, you know, you say we put on juice wrld on YouTube and we felt like we had to that's that's the cool thing about doing stand-up today, you know and like the eighties nineties whatever you had to wait for HBO or whoever to tap you but now off I still shopping around I was just curious but it was all know. So I was just like well, I'm still making it. I'm not going to just I get so sick of material and I just I feel like once it's overcooked. It's I don't want I don't want to tell you. Yes. Yeah, we just did a we just last week were talking about our own like sort of like, you know, I would dealt with like a like a running up against the gatekeeper on a project right by All rights should have gone it was like and and it was really kind of couldn't like I hadn't felt I was like, oh I can still feel rejected. I hadn't felt that in a long time and and it was like an early really young Pharaoh. That's right. This is like a testicle pain and and I do I you know, so yeah, I mean anytime you can kind of go around The Gatekeepers. It's amazing what you know that these options are open to like that word open when you know it certainly when I was coming up. It's it's great that you're taking advantage of it that I really responded like well, some people told me not to do it, but in other people I remember I was talking dead. Jim Gaffigan one night at got them and I was like, I don't know what to do normal by my special and he said just release it. Just put it out. He's like, how do you think he kept saying, how do you think Sebastian blew up? It wasn't no one watches Showtime. It wasn't a Showtime special that break up his Clips just kept going viral always Eclipse just keep clipping them and I was like, all right, so I'm glad you said cuz I've had you know issues where I don't want to post, you know, like maybe the Laugh Factory. Hey, can we post this clip of you and like that joke, I don't really want their one of their people to hear it yet her like what do you do? You have a thing of like what if somebody stole your material or if it was would you rather not get ahead of it? Like I don't know. Yeah, I think I think that's a good attitude. I have seen people going to steal your shit anyway and can't be precious life. Like it's like, you know, what's going bad or if anywhere just like I've heard it's like I've heard some Comics that I you know, respect and some writers. I respect early on when I was trying to think everybody else. Turning off with your comedy right or comedian. You have this feeling like someone's going to steal my stuff and I got stolen from I got sold from parts of big people and somebody just say to me like you said when that happens, it's just like fuck them right more. Like that's yeah. It's like if you're if one joke or slice is so precious to you're not right exactly like the exactly and and and I I really like, yeah, I think it was Ken Levine or somebody told me one time. It's like nobody's going to make a career in Hollywood off of one stolen joke. Yeah, you know, it's like yeah, you might get you could tweet something that you stole or you could present something. That's funny. But you better have more shit too bad. Yeah. Yeah like Sandra Bernhard one time. I heard her like make a comment that hey there's more where that came from. You want to steal one from me. Go ahead. I've got a whole lot, you know, you know filing cabinet full of bulshit. You can't just steal off. Joke and then make a career out of it, but I'm glad that you're doing that cuz like I've been on the fence about like wanting to release more Clips. But yeah, I think you got I just figured like what the heck it's going to make me write more because those mean people just take them. Anyway, I just had a guy in like some kids and like whales or something. I don't know. I just would like British accent they sounded young and and they're just telling a joke and it was like the it was the joke that they took her mind was verbatim in the Joker and I was like, hey, man, you know, you guys say you get like five million hits on this that's pretty fucked up and and they were just like fuck you. It was it kind of was like immediately like go fuckyourself. I've never heard of you and I was like what you did it verbatim and it was in a pretty big movie like it's not like, you know, it's a joke. Can you tell me you have a joke was I said? I say women look at sex like buying a car the way I see myself in this long-term is it's a it's a reliable. Could it kill me and say men men look at sex like parking a car where like there's a spot. There's another spot have to pay never mind and the dog Was handicapped going to seize this so phenomenal. And you said that was in a pretty big movie. What movie was that in it was in Joker. I was right before Joaquin Phoenix went home took you took a joke out of a pretty big movie. I mean and they were just like fuck you. You were nobody like if you're so pissed about so this was like we're talking about getting pissed about one joke. I was just pissed that they didn't acknowledge it. Like if you could be a thief I at least get the shame you for it. I'm going to keep writing but at least yeah, I kept seeing people kept sending it to me on Instagram and tiktok and these guys were like, fuck you. So there's like nothing in the movie The Joke this was a joker. Yeah. It was it was in the police Avenue. You have a pretty big it's more like wage. I just get annoyed with young people almost more than he almost more than Comics any comic knows it's wrong. Whereas like there's like young people out there just taking it now and and they just want the dog. Student likes without it's so much. Is that generation where they're like, we don't want to work for anything. We just want to build up a base and they they're like these curators of jokes. They still it's so it's so awkward to me. So that bothers me. I'm I'm not like I wasn't like losing sleep over but I was like fuck these guys, you know, that's ballsy man. That's like yeah, like I'm always shocked like when people will steal a joke of mine like that is that like is already gone viral? Like it's like really like, yeah, you're you're you're that's like, okay cool. Cuz I I don't eat up to alert them. I mean, I'm sure your fans are the same way. It's like the police will come out our friends or our fans. I mean know in a really oh, yeah. Yeah, but I'm a social media is you you do have your fan. Basically, I'll get so pissed. I'll see somebody just literally copied and pasted my you know, it's like that's a hundred percent mine. And then just as I want to say, yes. I'm going to like, you know, just be bigger ignore it and then I'll look and all the people that follow your like. Fuck you. That's Jenny's you piece of shit. How dare you still like? Okay, good. I don't have to yeah now I'm mostly just said those people get pissed but I'm almost cuz it's not like it's a it's a winnable fight. But cuz no one respects the ideal the ideal the idea of intellectual property theft anyway, so it's not like a web page and unfortunately, but I was like, maybe I'll just make nfts so I can profit on like I'll do an nft of the joke they stole and try to profit off them. That'll be the idea. I'll use the nerd tactic on the nerves that's amazing to make identity of a joke of a mean I think of it. Okay, let's talk after the thing. I want to get involved. So, how did you how did you get stuck in comedy? Like what was your until you know your arguments going where I want to know? I'm from yeah. Give us a run now. I'm from New York city. So I would go to the club sometimes but I always for whatever reason steer clear of them. How many celex I was just so scared of it and it's funny. I watched the Patrice O'Neal documentary last night. I was like this is why I was scared of it is these days but I would go to you know, comic strip or Caroline's. I remember seeing a yellow Caroline's and it changed my life. I still have the playbill that it's hell signed in my. What year are you starting out? I want to say it was like two thousand three or four that I went. I probably started in 2005. But yeah tell a tell was headlining Big Jay. Oakerson was hosting and Chelsea Handler was featuring it was I remember the show and a tell I just thought a genius I still do I think is the funniest person I've ever met. But so that was big and then I just I started doing the mics and they were horrible but I you have those friends who were like you're funny but you're off to them cuz you have you can do like inside jokes you can do call back. So you have so many you have so many tactics you could you could use but winning them over in thirty seconds on a stage. Yeah God. So it took it took a minute and I like dark jokes. So they were bombs early on where was like, it wasn't just like they didn't like the set they were like, we don't like you so it was a lot of those so a lot a lot of handing out flyers for years on the strength and a lot of that stuff. And and and yeah, I went to school I went to Tulane for a minute, but I ended up coming back to New York because I wanted to I wanted to do stand-up. So I'm a New York start in New York is kind of a it's kind of a blessing in a weird people always had come from a I come from a small scene and then moved to New York when you got heat but I've seen those guys sometimes I've seen them move here like Hannibal Buress and they just took things go great. But I've seen other Comics move and they were the guy and they're seen and nothing really happens. You know, it's not guaranteed. So I would rather just in New York people would say, well they see you when your week it's like yeah, but you know, but you get so much. Yeah, it makes you stronger too. So I was I was okay with that. That's where like I did stay at a like briefly poorly e But I I I started when I was like I was I grew up in Jersey just outside the Lincoln Tunnel kind of Livingston. And when I got my license at 17, I went into I went to the comic strip and I did they're open mic and I'm and like I got past there and I got past the Improv and there's worlds even a Comedy Cellar at this point is because that's a lunch. Wow. How much should go that's was it Lucien or no said he was very good. I like my my the very second time on like a Monday night, you know, and I lied about my age and but I wanted to to be there on Monday night and I even brought a couple of friends like yeah, I'm going up on Monday May 2nd paying day. I just like imagine going to we're going to bump you it's like you gotta you know, maybe you can hang out there. It's big, coming up and it was like only my second time on that I'd seen as like to get the $5 basically like and it was a Mercury. Oh my God, Eddie Murphy came on and did an owl and it was like that's like the hottest thing at that point and it was like and I had a followed him. Wow. You know, I'm with a quote to you. Sometimes are cool though. When when a really big name drops in because they're like vacation is made, you know, yeah. Yeah, he was in and out and then the audience was not polite to me, but I was completely break. Wait. Did he do it? You said he did an hour? Yeah an hour after that happened to me at the cellar like be like whoo shit. We just had a bath they were it wasn't like it was basically like it was it was one of those situations where he came out of Monday night. It was like, you know, maybe half the house full but because he was doing an hour of people were telling us before cellphones but enough people were like letting other people do and he's doing it and so that it was starting to feel he filled it up in the hour and then everyone will immediately leave it off and now it was like it was it was interesting though. I mean, it was like the watch and said, oh, yeah, this is next level. I'm not that that happened at the cellar one night. It was Rock Chappelle and birth. Every Chappelle never gets off early, but he knew there was another show so he got off early. So they like Sam. Do you want to go do 10:00 now? And I was like, of course. Yeah, of course. I want to follow Chappelle and rock. It's awesome. There's just off the crowd of of course. They got up a lot of them cuz they were just like yeah, we're is it Ray Romano know? Okay, we're good. I can get up and pay so pray hold on so they but yeah, but then once they settle a good sandwich, was there a moment in that cuz he knows that Journey you're going when you go through where you know, you're just you're grinding it out and starting to get better your building material get more confident, but was there a moment when you're like, oh, this is the career I did you like that like I hit a making I can make some money at this. What was that for you? Huh? You know, I won this Festival in Atlanta called The Laughing Skull festival and like 2010 I think and it was and it was Probably like I don't know. I want to say like 60 to 80 Comics there but it was six hundred applicants or so. It's like all right. I made the 80 which I was happy about you had to pay your own way, which sucked I remember sharing a hotel room with a comic and jobs. I made it out of the first round like barely. I just barely made the first round that I made out of the second and then I I won the third round and I don't think I should have I think this guy Tom Simmons had a better set than me. So this day but they went with them and that just guaranteed me road work for like an entire year. Yeah, the it was the best prize you could give a young, cuz they were like, you will either feature you will feature in certain clubs, you know headline that maybe see rooms that we get you booked up, but I was like headlining at that point with me twenty-four probably twenty-three or twenty-four. Oh, that's that's heavy man. So that was I thought that was I was like, oh I I'm working and And I did I was working some of the gigs suck but then you know, I met I remember one of the weekends was with like Marc Maron. I'm I'm featuring from Mark mayor and I was you know, so and how was he to you said he was he was a little rough around the edges at first, but it's funny. I think I told this story you end up being really nice. But I told I just did this podcast and I told the story to him and I said, you know first time I saw your intimidating by you cuz he was wearing a fedora and sunglasses and smoking a cigar by the pool and I was like, who is this guy? You know, I knew obviously I was a fan, you know put but yeah, it was such an intense life like this guy looks so intimidated. So he ended up being really nice and cool and we end up having lunch a couple of days, but Yeah, some of those weekends were clubs that they kind of took a chance headlining me and they either like me or they didn't I remember one Club. It was a good room and then like you're not a headliner yet. They're kind of just couldn't say it. But I felt and and then another room in Kirkland. It was weird. I remember doing this. I was so nervous. I don't think I had 50 minutes. So I was like literally every joke I've ever thought of off and I remember the guy watched my set and I got off stage and it went well I was so happy. It's like, oh my God, I did really well and and the owner walks up to me and he goes what the fuck was that one goes. We're a fam establishment. And I was like, I don't know what I said. I don't know what I did and then I did I I didn't know what to change said have the materials. I did the exact same material the next night and it comes up to me and goes you really pulled it together and it's like what are you? I don't know what I'm talking about. You probably just nervous f-bombs, like maybe that's what you're like, I don't know that's strange. It was so weird, but but he ended up. We'll give me a few more times after so certain clubs are like you're in now, but I do worry, you know, it's tough. There's that weird. When you go from feature to headliner or clubs or middle act, I guess for the home listening don't know that the jargon but they don't you kind of have to turn down some feature weekends clubs. Would why would I headline you your featuring this club? And I have to be like said that is true. I should you up my pay if you guys could get me to feature. So you have to hold out for a minute yet to like kind of massage those those be rooms and and work your way in. Yeah. I didn't have an agent I was booking myself and I it's funny. I heard stories about the 90s. You went to the Montreal Comedy Festival and you leave with like a $750,000 holding deal by the time I went there were like you might get an agent. I was like, all right, I'll take it though. I remember that was like, um, I got to help us I worked on her show, but he's leaving with like their own pilot and their own like like like barking dog. Popular like this guy. This guy gave me talk to him and saw Brett Butler at Montreal and then it's like okay you're doing Grace Under Fire and and boy, she ruined a lot of our lives but where she was dead. Well tough in the sense that like Hitler was tough mean. Yeah. Yeah. She and I always say like a tenth funny is Roseanne, but three times mean and crazy damn to say it's uphill. Oh, wow. Oh shit that never I hear. She's it was a it was a it was a rough time for us. Yeah. God bless you. I hope she's doing better now Sam who was like whose your influences who were the comics that like you loved growing up and who who the ones you like now like career. I mean I could say the obvious choice cuz obviously I live prior Carlin Dangerfield was huge for me cuz he was just so like you couldn't look at him without laughing. So I love Dangerfield. I loved I loved ones that people wouldn't think I'll of searching Intelligent life. I love Lily Tomlin. I love I love that too man. That's true. I wouldn't think that with your comedy. That's too she just it's what's it's funny. Sometimes I remember watching a, and this the book returns mean he goes I bet you don't like her and I was like cuz I laughed and he goes, oh, I wouldn't think you would like her and I was like it wasn't it was some I forgot who it was on stage. But I said, what do you mean he goes? Well, you're so different. I was like you assumed only like people like me like what kind of narcissist do you think? I am like I see stuff that I can't do and I'm like that's what I like a lot of the time so so that I was more I was more about your age frankly that it's like so like like like just like that was like such of its time and yeah, I'm I'm mostly like watching people who do something. I don't think I can do only you know, like like that's like, oh I will all of this particular kind of Comedy you're doing because it's like in a million years that joke and that bit would never have occurred to me and I That's how I feel because like someone like it's tough you dabble. But all right, I go back and forth with I love that if I watch prior sometimes I just think I can't do comedy. I remember I was really high in college. I watched the Chappelle special. Fuck. What's Killing Him Softly? Yeah. Yeah, and and I remember watching high and I it was I just freaked out we does not it doesn't agree with me. I just started freaking out and thinking I can't I can't do comedy. I can't do this cuz what he's doing is so foreign to me. That's how good he is. So it was self-doubt. We we we just like wage does not give me the confidence it it seems It's a performance inhibiting drug. I would describe. Oh my God, I had an edible or something like I could in a weird way. Sometimes I can write better jokes because I loosen up all the neuroses that I might have but there's no way I could perform it look for people. I don't understand how someone so many Comics do it. I know. Yep. No way I could do it. I would to be safe space. You know, I get I get performing on like an upper something that was like getting right but like the idea of like anything that sort of like a depressed thoughts are slowing my brain down. It's like oh no, I I can perform drunk. I can't perform. Hi, and I'm not as good drunk. But I I'm on The Late Show if they're all hammered. I'll have a drink or two sometimes and probably not drugs. Like I haven't I'll have a drink when I I'd states too, but that's just to like cut the edge. But yeah, it wouldn't drug. You can't have one too many. Otherwise like I remember I was in Las Vegas at the month Tropicana the Laugh Factory that was within the Tropicana and I had shows like from Monday to Monday and there was three shows the word. Why do they do that to us? I don't know a week in Vegas another one plans for a week in Vegas. That's a and and I don't like and I'm not a Vegas person either so like oh you have a soul. Yeah. So the last show, I mean it was like the third show of the nightclub. Everyone's hammered. I was having a few drinks like in between shows and on stage and then I realized like kind of like fucking Tipsy right now. Like I was on sale like shit and then I said a joke and I was like, I swear I think I just said that already like did I just say to that joke because I've already said it twice on state like it sucked with my head that I started going like. Oh shit. Oh God. I need somebody get the hook. And I'm like, wait did I just I was just let go I was like, fuck it. Did I just tell y'all that do I need to know we're going to other like I couldn't be even remotely buzz on stage because that's that would be the and has happened to me so many times cuz some clubs on the road used to do the three shows in one night. So you're doing three different hours and by the third hour, I'd be like, you know, I I need a drink just to survive this. So the third hour I would I would definitely repeat a joke and then you just have to own it. You either say I'm sorry. I done two shows or I just say wage. Or just told a third time and see if it hits you know, I just keep telling it to see how many I don't know. So I figure anything out. You know what I think one thing that you do that I have so much respect for because off every time this happens to me. I feel like I get a little too nervous but you crush at crowd work like every time I see you do crowd work you absolutely destroy like is that something that you would like to do or is that yeah, I get bored with my jokes. As I said like I don't go in being like let me do crab work, but some Comics will scoff at crowd work and I've never been one of those Comics as long as it's if you're trying to do it in a ridge way. I just hate the the same the same tricks, but if I get heckled I'll roll with it. And if I if I'm bored with the jokes, I'll definitely talk to the crowd a little bit just to keep a conversational so it doesn't feel like a completely scripted show. They're seeing most crowds. I think need some engagement. I agree. Do you think that when like dead People Heckle you because I I've seen your Clips so you doing crowd work and it's some of my favorite should I just wonder like is the audience going? I want to be insulted by Sam because sometimes I can't even get a manager and the shift that people shout out and then you just don't know. I don't know if people do that. I I I can't tell my friend made that comment to me but I some of the people say to me opposite people just I think sometimes they think every comedian is an insult. I never would think I'm like, I'm not an insult comic at all, but people a guy I was in the during a show yesterday and at the journal this guy turned to me he goes you better make people uncomfortable tonight and just like like going to me right now, I'm uncomfortable. Yeah, but some people they they think that's what I want. And I think that's my goal estimate. I'm like, no, I don't want to make I want to be heard, feel like I'm not an Entertainer. I'm a truth-teller. I'm an Entertainer. I'm I'm trying to make people laugh. I'm you know, I'm not I know I'm there to move drinks at the end of the day, so I'm not I'm not getting some inflated ego off. Keller is a rough. I definitely been privy to a few any speeches from somebody on the stage or something talking about, you know, this is about you know life isn't there's a revolution what we're doing here, you know, just like a me like you don't get to say that about your own work just freshly and show the Showbiz four people are so fucking phone. So I mean like well, you're talking about pitching shows the people you're like this is this is not I know you don't behave like this at home. I know this is a put on so that's it's tough. It is tough. I really woke people. I'm not one of those comedians who's like, oh woke beat but like really woke people. Yeah, there is something that that is it's hard to entertain them because yeah, like I'll do shows if it's become a cliche but I do shows in Brooklyn and it's it's like there's a standards and practices and their head and they're like, let me see if the Flies and then they decide it's okay, but those crowds like at least I'll take Road Chrome. Cuz at least a drunk crowd I can do something with energy. I can't do I can't do anything with it. Just hm. I can't do anything with that. You know, the world crowds are like the equivalent of like took my mom watching me a dancing recital as a kid. She just watched him for the shit. I could possibly fuk up like did she not smile and she's like the woke me just give a wait for the thing that they can get offended by it all or watching the show. They're just waiting for you to say like, oh did you just say that's actually a racist term and you like no, it's not you just made that show me like I know that's how I feel about the world crowd is it's just like I guess that's what But to answer your question of with the with the crowd word. I like doing it because on the road they just kind of don't think they're just drinking and they're just laughing and it kind of feels like you stepped into a like a portal or something and you went back to a time cuz I love doing New York comedy, but there is there surfing Rooms that get a little too they're like these hipsters who are just too cool. It's it's not just woke it's like they're kind of above it and and you kind of want to be like your you came like you did not understand like comedy snob kind of thing Club. How can you be that? I mean and I I also think like when people are like you said like crowd work gets like a rap song Like from hipster comedians, you know, they don't know they'll be diminishing crowd. I think it's just a mission bad crowd work, you know, Todd berries that whole problem. And yeah that mean I thought what I laughed so hard at that shed and good at it, you know, it's it's just easy because yeah, no one likes where you from, you know, you know And with no joke like what I just took Todd's a crowd workmaster, but you ever tried texting with them. It's just like hey meet me on my block at this restaurant. I'm like, oh I can't right now you just made the plans in the second and it took out and like you're the best crowd World comedian working, but that's that's what you get every time out. One of my favorite sweets about like a month, maybe two months ago. It's right in that wheel house, but it was like people it was two Comics. What's the craziest name of a place you've ever performed and his was Sydney Opera house. I'm just afraid that you know for maybe well my mom loves to embarrass she thinks he's hilarious. She said it's he's my favorite. I honestly his performance. He made his attitude. He's just like because that level of confidence in that just like work log. Zach it's spring. It's just he's now he he's his albums are great. I love I like listening to Comedy and his albums are just perfect for that cuz of his voice and cuz of his Tempo and wage kind of there's this kind of Jazzy sound to it. I love it. I get so excited if I could just see him pop up and something I'm watching like they're going to be a movie like he could get some role that maybe something small but I'm like no more topic. I want every time I see time and something he's so enjoyable. He's one he was another guy like people I listened to as a young comic with Todd Dave Attell Jake Paul do Chris Rock like all those I mean obvious choices, but they mean corralled them and Hedberg. Yeah. Oh, yeah Hedberg, but we'll just sheared shows like, you know long before I before him. It was like I remember being like a kid and like the Steven Wright would come on and just be a man or waiting jokes. It's like they said just have you fill an hour. That's the question is wrong. That's a near-impossible style to maintain like that's why I give so much credit to Anthony Jeselnik. It's like the guy just keeps putting out hours and he's doing that. It's those one-liners. It's I've featured for him a few times and like I mean, I just I'm so enamored by the fact that he cuz he's just it's like she just jokes. It's like set that punch punch like for an hour and it never took, you know, it's just boom boom. Boom the whole time like that is That's like some in just complete Endurance on stage that you're watching cuz I'm more like a lot more storytelling which you know, it's like that was saying waste time or each time but it takes them longer. We're just looks like for a full sixty minutes is just boom boom. Boom. Boom. It's incredibly Progressive. I'm in I'm in all of that. So I was seeing that you you did America's Got Talent awful experience. Yeah. I was just desperate. I think I just needed what I was I want to say 2015 or something. I may be sixteen. I really was desperate to just move tickets cuz it's just hard it was hard at that time for me to get headlined. I I had for a long time been getting my own dates. Then I had an agency wage and the woman was I was at Paradigm and she was awesome. She hustled so hard, but she just didn't have really the cloud to get and I'd have the clout to get me booked really so that was she had they ended up folding. They're basically there's public appearance division. So I go to Innovative and these agents I had were so fucking rude to me. They would just write I'd be like man. This is really low money and they dug. Well, that's what you're worth. What is the what is the Devil Wears Prada? This is crazy topic is and then then I they were crazed one of them still pops up two of them. I one was a manager now and they were the worst they were rude to of my perfume. I bet Mark was with him. They were assholes to him Rachel Feinstein some of my best friends. So it's like and then I moved to William Morris and they were they were good. That's who I'm still with but they were like we can't get you enough weekends because they knew I just want to be on the road every weekend. So I did a GT and it was a horrible experience. I remember being so I get anxious. So I'm not good for them already done last Comic which a horrible experience for me and then I get there. I'm at some theater in Pasadena. It's like five thousand people and they fuk with you because they want you to be anxious on edge. Camera, so they're like right before I went on there. Like are you nervous? They keep you are you nervous? And I'd be like, yeah nervous, of course and I could tell they want like the judges you could just kind of arrogance kind except for Howie Mandel and and Mel, you know, it's religious. Simon Howie Mandel is such a nice guy and and and Scary Spice I to this day I think was a little bit flirting with me just for the cameras. But so I go out there and they five thousand people and I'm just like they can cut this. However, they want I can look horrible. That's why I tried to give them nothing off-screen. I was like, maybe they'll just show my thousand of it. So I want them to see I know it's like ten million viewers. So I kill I could have done better. I kind of opened by just they ask me questions about stand-up they said what's your worst gig? I told a story about get a guy spitting on me during my cell life and I feel like they were like, we hope you do. Well. I feel like that was able to get me some good will understand it. I gotta stand, you know, I killed and I've never gotten a standing o ever I gots never happen. Nah So it's like, you know, it's a put-on. But yeah, I killed. I killed and even Simon was like I didn't want to like you but I didn't like why why don't you want to like people what's wrong with you going to be a Teletubby for you to like? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love that. You're hosting talents. Like look, I don't want to like any of you keep saying to you. They forwarded you when you're waiting back to go Simon's in a really bad mood. I'm like, yeah, me too. I've been here 12 years. He's going to fucking limo. And so I like what do you do in the fucking dollars and I'm sitting here shooting my pants and you're not helping curious this guy. So then I I go to the next round and the whole time like we don't know if we're going to do it and I'm like, I just gotta stand, you know on your shell after the hell you do you put me through and it's like and my mom is hilarious. I'm freaking out. I'm texting my mom. Like I can't freaking have been 10 hours already in my mom. My mom was just read a book and like Mom there's there's a snake to my right. There's a couple dancing Mambo Number 5 to my left. There's no there's no Escape. I can't just pick up a book. So I end up dead. The next round they decide the will Air it but the end up Aaron and his one packet. I moved in the next round and I it's a horrible situation. I'm really cranky cuz I'm in this hotel instruction. So I get like two hours of sleep and then I'm there for twelve hours and you know, they mastered you like there are other Comics there. They try to get me to chat talk them and I was like, I'm not I'm not doing that and then they try to get you to you excited you if you win you get to go to Vegas. I'd be like, I hate Vegas don't want to bring biggest. I just want to get a few sets on T. Finally get to the last round. It's like twelve, you know, it's like midnight, you know, I've been there or twelve hours and the crowds exhausted. They're given nothing and I do that set is online. I do pretty well. I you know, I get like an Applause record to I do pretty well and at the end there's like Simon's like yeah you were all right. You were better last time like they were better last time. I still fucking it's been twelve hours dude. So I ended up getting eliminated this mime tape face. He was incorrect. What is incredible mind, but it's keep moved on and they hit us. I hate to say pit us against each other cuz I I thought he was amazing and super hilarious. I see him the next morning without the tape on his face off and and he's like he's a normally like he made yeah, you're good. You're good act. You know, it's like their faces are all your cigarette in his mouth. But yeah terrible experience. I was super bummed about it. And uh, I just I just I don't like reality t v. It's it's painful for me cuz it's so it's funny. It's reality. It's the fakest steal ever. Say what you say. It's the most unrealistic. It's all scripted. It's all predetermined of how things are going to go. There's no real reality show how we Mandel in Montreal a few months later and and Howie Mandel walked up to me and he goes you really got screwed you were really funny and I was like, oh, you're the judge did you was there a yet an agency bump at all? I mean, well, yeah cuz when it aired it and they aired it off. My first set and my second set together, I guess do like a package of me. So it was like a four or five minute segment and it's like ten million viewers. So it's probably the biggest bump like no late nights tickets ten million viewers felt like three late night thoughts back then in one. Yeah gave me a little bump for sure, but they're not loyal fans or a GT fans. They like there with you for like a minute, you know, they don't they don't stick around in their face and then what something shiny and then they yeah, we we can make your show tonight. We're seeing a sword swallower in the same in the same town. Sorry Rudolph, the guy the Jeff. We want to get you mentioned. You mentioned your mom had really enjoyed when you were running your material fire mom and posting videos of it. Is that something that you like? I know you were doing it during the quarantine, but is that something you do in real life? Like do you run that? I'm really close with my mom and I'll I'll we talk on the phone all the time. So I'll run bits by her and she's she's a great audience because if she thinks it's funny dog. And I think it's funny. I'm like, all right, it's I think it's broad. It's definitely going to hit so cuz I want it to be funny to as many people as possible. But most I've got to think it's funny. But if it's as funny to you know, she's she got good taste and she's I mean, I would listen to you know, I listen to Hedberg with her. I'd listen to she loves jokes. So we listened to Hedberg or Stephen Wright or she thought to meet re Martin was really funny or odd but she loves Ryan Hamilton is one of my best friend's I just saw here special recently. Yeah. Yeah, so he's I mean, yeah, she's really she likes a good joke. So I I trust issues with it. That's great. I I just very much enjoyed watching you run material past earnings. I I talked to my mom all the time and I run stuff by her, but she just doesn't know it. I just make it like we're in Congress cuz if I told her hey, let me tell you this potential bit. She'll start getting in her head about it. But if I just am talking to her casually and I tell her something and she laughs and like, all right, make a note that were dead. Okay, I guess she's like the hardest audience of all the time and it's really funny that that's really funny that I feel like Jim Jefferies would never like I I I'm over him a few times. I remember he would always he would never be like, here's a bob which most common so nobody can I run something he would just like he'd be like have you ever noticed this since I feel like he's running a bit by me. My mom was the opposite everything I said my mom. I was like the worst possible audience they come out for my my dad. My dad balanced it by thinking I was complete piece of shit most times. So it was like years. She filled the Gap, but but she was a terrible judge of like wage going to be like I'd like oh, yes killing with my mom. Yeah. I thought it was funny what the hell's wrong with you but it's tough cuz it's like what am I going to be? Like my mom like that joke, the only jokes I can't tell her or the ones about her and now tell her I'll tell her those jokes afterwards just to make sure she's cool with it. But yeah, she's usually usually is like, oh what am I like a big joke to you if she'll be laughing and she says, yep. No, she's okay with it. Yeah, I always like I let my mom know after the fact of she's made her way into in the material but then she such a narcissist. She's like so am I just all is it? All you talk about is me and like, you know, let's take it easy. It's not that so funny people always whenever someone's like I hope I don't make your act. I'm always like oh never think of this conversation with you again. It's always like some person like I talk to for like 30 seconds and like hope I don't make the acting like, I don't know you what are you talking about? But then it's like the people that don't expect it like my mom never expect but she seen bits where she's been horrified for sure. If she's I've definitely seen her she was at my first album tape and The Comedy Cellar and I want I told this pretty salacious story and I watched her put her head down in in horror and like Mom your I don't want to see your don't sit up front if I have to see your face in the joke. Like who was the person who Steffi audience like she was I guess she wasn't a bumper. She was closed. She was in eyesight. It was enough that I was like I I need her at a eyesight. Yeah, I I wouldn't even want to know my mom's ever even seen me do stand-up because if I tell her I'm like if you want to come don't tell me just be there. Yeah just show because it will be all I would freak me out there to cuz I kind of I don't want her to see me if my mom comes. I don't want to see me just sticking around with new jokes. I want I want her to be like, oh, he's he's still got it still got a fastball, you know, so she's she's seen me bomb before and I think it's been a member. She saw me when to stand in New York and it was one of the that club just no one police the room. So if you got a Heckler you better hope you shut them down and they understood that you shut them down. Otherwise, they weren't going to stop talking off. So yeah, she just watched me go at it with a person for like fifteen minutes and there was no resolution. It was just he was just me arguing with him and I was like a Bard like they were all right. I guess you want to get dinner khong? Mama she's like oh that was unbelievable. Well, we're at the we're at the point where we talked about on our show and talk about stuff that we we've been watching and hitting that stuff before we get to that do. Is there anything like you own anything we can watch for you coming up or anything you're want to promote or where we can see you and hear your podcasts all that stuff will link everything. I've got to podcasts if you're in a basketball one of them's called pod don't live my way to in the basketball. So that's kind of where I get all that out. And then there's there's one called the other podcast called we might be drunk and that's with Mark Normand. The basketball ones with Stavros halkias is hilarious. And then and then I have two specials that are on YouTube One Is Up on the Roof which is a shot during the pandemic and the other one is I got this and the both of the last year and I'll try to get another one out. Hopefully by the end of the year, but we'll see I feel burnt out I feel like I got nothing so everybody afterwards but so there's I'm always convinced. The last thing I wrote is the last thing I will write crazy huge. You're never your level of yeah, it's amazing thinking build confidence or a callous. I just never do I always think like I pulled them again, but that was the last time and also endemic has been just terrible for for creativity because I'm not I'm a comic I need to be at airports and be traveling and and ideas pop into my head. I can't I'm not JD Salinger. I'm not going to sit know where he stood whatever and just like a barn and just crank out right, you know lines I need I need motion and emotion will definitely linked to the will like those specials and let anything you've been watching over the that you've done so much. Well, I just finished that qanon doc on HBO. I love this part. I don't know my God haven't got into it yet back to that Forum, right? I loved it. Yeah. It was it's just completely nuts and I like the I like the guy the filmmaker Cullen something who made up because Not it's it's so easy to just laugh at these qanon people and he's he's he's playing ball. He knows what he's gotta do to make this a movie and make it watchable cuz you gotta some of these people it's like during some one of the signs though. They turned into like the just being anti pedophilia. Cuz who the fuck is an anti pedophilia. So one of the signs was pedophilia is not a sexual orientation like who dafuq is arguing that I've never heard anyone make that argument no one says that so it's just these kind of like trick like, you know, these tricks signs to get people off. I'm going to take a big stand here against pedophilia. I usually don't get political but I'm just going to be like I am not for it. That's how it's almost. It's always easier to be a conspiracy theory nut than it is. It's so crazy to be like everything's bullshit. It's so easy. It drives me crazy sometimes to go through like that stupid. It's like it's fine. It's like it just like cuz you want to argue anything you don't believe and honestly I do pedophiles. Think about pedophilia as much as these people do it's like I it's it's and they only care but but then when they actually somebody on their side is actually being accused of pedophilia wage. They just completely ignore. It's like right there from two kids changing it as beauty pageants. He bragged about it on Saturday. Are you not concerned? Do you think that's worth less use the leader? He's the leader. It's like with Jeffrey Epstein when you know, like right is like look, look, here's a picture of him Bill Clinton, you know, like I'm like, well here he is with Donald Trump signal. They're both gross what you say. Sorry. I feel like no ones defending Bill Clinton anymore. I feel like that ship has sailed. I feel like there was a. Would be but like I feel like there's a lot of people are like Clinton clearly is not a great human. Obviously, he's not he's clearly not a good person argument. I hear from the other side of him. When I look on Facebook, I mean I grew up in Texas. So there's a lot of you know, when I look on Facebook at people I grew up with and they're like, well, you know what Clint like, that's the excuse It's like that's the automatic Will trump did what about Iraq? What like what Clinton did it's like, well, we're not talking about don't really feel like we're like motion was like, okay cool. Like if if they find out that he's guilty of they should put him in jail now return home right now. You like Trump you guys do the same thing like you don't ya how about just no pedophile know it's got a it's funny. They're more they're more rigid than anyone. It's so weird wage. They get one sign like it's all coming to fruition like everything. We we picked but the but they don't realize it like it's like they're the same as those people that like the world's going to end in 1999. That was glad you're the same as that religious nut job that you claim to hate. Right and it's not that like these crazy conspiracy theories. It's like if I honestly if you are or if you believed That a guy like Donald Trump gives a shit about you and the Working Man like if you can make that many people. Oh, yeah anything that's the biggest concern that is like part of the craziest conspiracy that they believe is that this fucking New York trust fund asshole who doesn't give a shit about any of them who literally said go to the capital and right behind you then hit out watch it on T and laughed at you said your think like he's on your side. That's the nuttiest. Yeah, that's much crazier than us all drinking baby blood. Yeah. That's true. Anyway, that's oh okay. I'm going to I'm watching that tonight. What name Annie what have you got for us? This is like this is going to sound like golf waiting twenty but I just started kind of good. I watch the LED Burns Hemingway. I just bought a chrome one. I heard it's amazing. I just read that article in the New Yorker about it with I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't like that like the last line with like Hemingway wanted to be a woman or something cuz he was in love with Gertrude Stein. What dog Talking about this is the wokish it I've ever heard know. It's it's it's it's interesting if he's obviously like this incredibly complicated. I just based on the first one, but he was like, I don't know. He's obviously he's not seemly talented and driven but he was just like he was a the first one I just talking about so his experiences in the war. He came back it was horrible, but he completely immediately started lying and self-aggrandizing his his his heroism in the war like right away like in a way that like you understand there's something I related to about like God you're getting adulation for that. You're young man. You never want to go back but he's a complicated guy. I mean, I remember I mean I'm a obviously a fan of his writing. So yeah, it's what's that on? That's like the one that's like the one book you get when you're in high school. You're like, yes, you get so amped up like The Sun Also Rises. You're like, oh my God, that ending is so dead. Take my favorite ending to a book ever. We're just it's just literally heartbreaking, but also just kind of so, I don't know. It's it's not over the top. It's just like a widely heartbreaking ending. I love that they talk about how it's really based on a lot of the shit that happened while and his group of friends in Paris and after the war and and there but there's an amazing thing where there's a guy in their group this I forgot the guys name of Jewish guy who was like part of their group and his fictionalized version is just like this like gross Jew like in in in Sun Also Rises his kind of like faith. Is that oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, and it was based and it's like I was so hard with this. So this whole time you just thought of me as the Jew and it was like like holy shit. It's like like about thirty somebody in your act. I mean, I guess that's always been a thing, you know is amazing. So, you know, I haven't watched all of it. It's it's quite likely but I'll check. It's on PBS right off. And the PBS station and it's been a fucking pleasure having you know, I love talking to you guys are so much fun. I really highlighting is so weird the clips I can tell you is a gorgeous. Don't worry, right? This is going to look great. Yeah, somebody just like me out. I look like pink, but but yeah, but thank you for having us man. I'm having us back for having of our attention to me. I appreciate it. Yeah. No, this is fun. Thanks. Thanks for taking minutes and everybody check. Tell me want to tell me when it comes out. We'll do I'll send you the link and everything cool, but we appreciate it. Thank you for coming on Sam and we'll leave all your specials and everything to to the podcast. So you think do a nation. We're trying that out find out what's wrong and thank you guys. So you guys thanks Guy.

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Ep. 96 | 2 Bears 1 Cave w/ Tom Segura & Roy Wood Jr.

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Ep. 96 | 2 Bears 1 Cave w/ Tom Segura & Roy Wood Jr.

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That's right for the waste ass when the pandemic like really took off and we're trying to raise money for For the wait staff. We did a thing together and you had me howling. I was like. I got to try to podcast with this dude again. Because obviously you know you knew you are and stuff but didn't really a chance to chat with you except for in that and Now we're we're via zoom again. We're still not. I ever say it to you or did i tweet it to you or did i can't remember but i remember when your last netflix special came out. And the clever way you swerved around the inward yes messaging. I can't remember what the joke was. I was like that was fucking good. You'd like like. I was sitting around my dogs. I was like yeah man ships. Good thanks there have been white comics that have said it where it made sense in the context of the joke and it was fine from. Yeah yeah. I can only speak for myself. Accused people But that was even more clever. Because you didn't say it out a way around okay. That was yes but my point making always been one of my favorites man. So i appreciate it. Thank you very much to fill war before we Keep chatting. I wanted to to mention that you have A new podcast right. That's out Zanu i it's we'll yet so it's roy's job fair where we people come on until shitty employment stories and we also have people that are hiring and weird industries off to them and then also the daily show We do one call beyond the scenes where talk writers and other correspondents. Just tell me about that time. You almost got punched in the face in twenty fifteen. Yeah dude that's my. Those are those stories. I think appeal that job stories or or anything in the workplace that went sideways. I can listen to stories like that forever. So if that's the podcast. I'm fucking in bro. We talked with a dude from the postal service. And i never thought about this. Did you know that the crack house still gets mail on a regular basis. No i didn't think about that now. It's still someone is its residence. Yeah it's still a residence. It's still a legal resident so you have to go up on the porch and sometimes certified letters and you have to deliver certify letters to crack houses and we had our post do from the post office i break in down for us and it's just the nuance of certain jobs. That you wouldn't even think about stuff like that. Well think about. I mean that's gotta be we don't really think about how terrified A postal worker could be delivering letter in in all kinds of neighborhoods but like it was a house like that. Where you're like man sketchiest. Fuck you know what's going on here. You don't know who's going to answer. You don't know what's going on there. I mean that that's also a terrifying experience but then also by the same hand. He's also responsible for delivering like medication to people. There's a lot of people who don't even go to the pharmacy like your health. Plan is so fucked that you have to wait on dude named charles to bring you whatever the fuck peeled is going to keep you. Oh my god you're also in charge of that because people know that you're delivering pills. They don't know what the pills are some motherfuckers when a beat you over the goddamn head because they think has reverend zanex in perfect and you're not fucking diabetic metformin pills. Yeah i was gonna eat these anyway. Because it's a pill. I want aso when the pandemic happened. All the shit shutdown in your own whatever pill you need to keep you alive. It's fucking charles. Yeah dot and shit. You've had weird jobs that right. Have you had like some strange ones. I did mostly restaurant work. Until i got into stand up and then i started doing daily work daily pay like i don't know i i feel like i have a different standup during like my data system was like all of the south in the midwest So it what you weren't on a scene you can have a regular day job. Yeah i would do like temp services so like back in those days when you remember comedy clubs used to be open five days a week. Yeah yeah rolling in the dough way back then. Yeah i would get into town tuesday night and then i would wake up wednesday morning in everyday wednesday through sunday. I just went to attempt service and just fucking did regular weird shit. I did The little stop sticks out on the road to stop and slow that little flip stick with the orange vests That would me I i was the guy who came in. We did a beat cleaning of an outback steakhouse on a friday night by now had done. Yeah weekly thing so filthy that you wouldn't even let your employees to separate albany when you come in with a pressure washer with like one hundred forty degree water. Only you're fucking just cleaning all the gunk in greece in the the fucking hood and all that shit After considering now for me to thing with jobs was that. I i just really look back at all. The people i met. I think. I think we'll we forget about that as a teenager. That's your first introduction to other adults. Don't govern you. Yeah you know every adult in your life is go here. Sit there coach teacher fucking church like it's all people with some control. Where's i just washed. Dishes i'm sixteen. And i've just wash dishes with his mother fucking named tony and he cuss me the fuck out and then like a switch for my head all. I can cuss him back. Yeah fuck yeah fuck you tony. I mean it was my fault though. I got him out knowing what i know now. Almost got him arrested. So i understand why he he saw used to work in a rehab hospital. Okay in birmingham birmingham backstory. Real big sports medicine right city life. You guys have leaked There's a there's a guy there. I remember reading sports illustrated as a kid. And they're like james andrews so if someone toward their acl or something they would go there right. Yeah he's the guy and so the hospital where everybody goes after. You have whatever your sports surgery is was his healthsouth rehab hospital of lake lakeshore and so i was a food porter so i was the guy who i worked in the cafeteria. Basically but we were the people who put the food trays on the cart and took into the floors and then the nurses delivered the trades. We come back into our and we go room to room and take the the fucking would bus all of the fucking rooms right behind us as we're taking. All of the food trays out of the room is the pill cart. So as we're taking food out of a room a nurses coming behind us with whatever pills at that particular patient is on. Tony knew this. And so tony's move was to deliberately leave something in the room that he had to come back and get his. He knew based like smart my fucker brooklyn. He knew based on the surgery in the age of the patient. What the milligram prescription would be shit like that like. If it was like for example vladi diva was in our hospital at one time. Troy aikman is when like you really can't get in the athletes room and the athlete is so rich. But you know that the fucking seven year old who broke her hip who just had a hip replacement cheese in pain. So you know that dosage is gonna be fucking high and you know right after she eats. She ain't taking the pill right away. It's gonna fucking sit there next to that stupid pink water pitcher. Tony will come back. Oh i forgot the napkins. Oh and he would fucking come back in and get the fucking pills like if you had to pills he would take one okay so and when he had the right away or just wanna leave with no you sell them he sell them back in the twenty looking up. So you know. We're doing four floors sixty rooms of floor so even if you got twenty pills a floor. That's a fucking lick and this is before they were counting. The pills and right hospital is set up now. It's all is gone everything. It's nino brown new jack city slip through the door. The peel comes out the fucking trae for like but in those days it was just a cart. Full of fucking vicodin. Help yourself out your sin. So so. I'm supposed to collect the trays at the you. Collect the trays. You go bus them back in the fucking dish room. You break down the trays. That is a two man job. You have to have the trace completed in time for them to make the meals for the next round for the other wing of the fucking hospital. I'm breaking down by myself. I'm behind my supervisor. Comes to me and he goes. What the fuck would focus trade. We're going to get the trees. We've got to sit up. It's time to start the line. We get food with tony. And i just went. I don't know what i should have said was bathroom or something that covered form a little bit. More okay my supervisor went floor to floor looking for tony and when you have a pocket full of vicadin perk supervisors not gonna run into the floor instantly. What are you doing antonis. Walking back with all of these forts and cups and shit just loose in his hand that people have been slobbering on and he goes back into this room. Supervise like wherever you had to go. Get the rest of this by the fucking these dishes. 'cause this little dumb motherfucker was leaving shitting the rooms. I got written up. You got rid man this loney. Tony had to cover for me. Supervisor walked off. Tony grabbed me by the fucking neck and put my face right up against that hottest dishwasher. Whoa mother fucker you stay out of a mother fuck. Romance business and to his credit is a very fair lesson. The very fearless looking back. You go i wish you would. You have covered for him. Oh he's in the bathroom right now. I yeah yeah. Because even if he wasn't still pills. I'm still fucking up this dude's employment. Yeah and you know this is a type of for. He's on probation. So you need this job to keep your freedom like that type of shit right. Yeah so me doing anything that could get him in trouble jit literally. I'm jeopardizing his free. He's jeopardizing in his own. Fucking freedom right. Tell you though. Because i think about something a lot that that you just said. I'm really against the idea of Like going after people's employment when you don't like them or what they say like this this thing today where it's like this guy fucking tweeted this or put this on a podcast and then everybody goes. Let's let's attack his job. Let's make sure he's losing his job. I'm like backing is. These are the type of people that work there. Yeah what you want. You want him to be on the streets like you. You want him to not be able to support a fan. I just fucked. It makes me crazy to me the job. Well yeah i guess it did i. I'm with you depending on the job. If your shitty fast food worker and you're a piece of shit fucking. I'm coming for you for your visor. I'm going to have your visor. Because i know you can get another one of these shit jobs. I'm basically inconveniencing you for two weeks. But if you're like the professor of studies of whatever the fuck and at some job that takes fucking months to get that all right let's figure out. Exactly what did you do you see. That's the problem they'll tea is that there's no as flawed as the criminal justice system. Is they have sentencing guidelines right. So there's rules. There's a maximum minimum that you can do to someone and there's people on the internet though that will always go for the maximum sentence trill matter what because they think vengeance is going to bring them joy and it never will like. It's it's it's like okay. Like there was a guy early in the pandemic who got bad service at chipotle lands out on whatever it was. He made a racist joke at a lady or some shape and the internet fucking killer. Bees came form in a job. And i think they just made all of his stuff private and the jobs that he has resigned or some shit but then they were like coming for his kid at school in this like come on. That's not. yeah like is this a parent that you want on the board of your school. That he's got on the board he's at your holy like some fucking do good ass parent in the fucking school board system. Shouldn't that count against the sentencing. Like that's not even taking got arrested when i was nineteen right So i still credit cards and we got. We got popped for credit card fraud and before sentencing. You literally get an opportunity to call people who write letters on your behalf of what a decent motherfucker you are. You also get to present all of these different things about yourself that you in the hopes that that changes some of your sentencing. The it doesn't have that right. That's interesting because what you're bringing about. Is that when whenever there's a say a crime occurs like in that case or something You know negative like somebody tweet something assessing the awful. We always go this. This one thing is what defines this person you know like it and it's not just you're not justifying we've all had said terrible things things we regret done terrible things but hopefully you're made up by more than just a that. You know the bad thing. You know what i mean like your your. Your life is more than just your worst moments. The difference though is that at least with crime somehow like there's people who like i've said this on stage say you can't support cancel culture and prison reform right and there's people that do and prison reform in and of itself is built around making sure did there's more fair sentencing right in place so people can get on with their life. Yeah and so. That part of the internet swarm has not been installed it the internet just the criminal justice system versus the internet justice system. You see my brother. We get to right. They sit down just like there's no sentencing guidelines internet justice system. So in spite of what you do you can still try to come back out into the world and someone new discovers it and it comes back up to the top like no one can ever bring up. Oh you stole credit card to. You're absolutely. I checked all the boxes. I did my probation. I pay my fire. And i did all everything else supposed to do. I'm back and people go cool. Welcome back now now. I probably shouldn't be working at a post office for the rest of my life. Because that's why stole the credit card but yeah that's understandable. Bright ones going to try to bring that back up ever again. This episode two bears one k. Was also brought to you by blenders. I wear a fresh for san diego. California comes an amazing sunglass company. 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Put it together security footage or whatever there was. There were those. I don't know it's a. It's a touchy subject for me. Just because i've been on the edge of being thrown away by society because of that and it took a lot of people taking chances on me in spite of me. heaven a felony. Yeah for me to keep progressing. Yeah and this was something that happened. When i was nineteen and i was dealing with ripple effects at three years probation i was dealing with ripple effects at shit till i was damn near thirty. Did it affect show business at all to like no. That's the crazy part like your radio does not give a fuck about your sins and neither does comedy. Yeah which. I guess is part of the problem that a lot of people have gathered. Almost no pro. Have make you more. I don't know. I remember when i had So you get arrested and you're waiting sentencing. Whenever and during that time i started working golden corral and so when i got sentenced i got probation instead of prison. That's that's how i got stand up. I thought i was on went to prison so i started doing comedy to deal with depression because of throwing my life away. I know a dime prison. So fuck it. Let's try stand up. Then i got probation first thing my probation officer says to me is yeah. You're gonna have to. I have to verify your employment. Which means i have to show up where you work in see you in uniform and see you actively conducting your job yet and then i have to talk to your supervisor and i thought for sure i was gonna get fucking fire bro. A site fuck man and so probation officer comes in talks with the superviso-supervisor causing me in the office. And i'm like doing the whole. It was a long time and yeah it had only been like four months but as long time ago i'm deaf person and you know i'm not own register ain't touching no credit cards and he said roy half this fucking restaurant is on probation. Walked me around the back of the house and golden corral the owner. This is one of those places. Where if you hire felons you get the tax break on whatever employment credit jabber shit and so it was a place full of people all getting second chances so i spent my early twenties surrounded by people who made mistakes far legally worse than me. Yeah and i saw the good in them so it just it just changed how you know what people can be on the other side of a fuck up and still holding out. Hope that can be that whereas now we're very much warning to throw people away. Yeah immediately without giving him a chance. A lot of fuckers ain't remorseful and they're not sorry but for the ones that are you know what's the what's the arrangement we live in a world where there's no set standard on. We don't even know what an apology is supposed to like. You could apologizing. Somebody can tell you. Keep that apology. Politics broken down people go. That's not that wasn't a good apology. All right yeah. I go will. You didn't apologize then you go. I'm sorry then. Go keep that apology. And then you'll do a professional by noble. You didn't write that apology right. Well you have to live. I think it was married years ago. Like on i. Twenty episode of his podcast. He talked about the inconvenience of living apology And so you know at some point you have to get pat. You have to forgive yourself. And i think that's the thing that a lot of us have trouble with is this idea would forgive with apology and forgiveness. This idea that. I need permission from strangers to be a better person you know like. I don't need your permission to turn over a new leaf right. You know there's certain people that own. That'll never fuck with me again. Because of certain things that i've done and not understand that but i still have to move forward. You have to behave that way. I just think though you know you have to have some sort of system at some point of sentencing guideline for lack of a better phrase. But we're not going to get to that anytime soon because it's more fun to just tell people fuck you. Yeah that's a big. It's a big part of the you know the internet fun for people today in social media is just it's all out dropping as hard fucking bomb as you can on people whenever a mistake made okay but then what happens on the other side of that. What's the corrective thing on the light 'cause to some degree if you offend about some shade above fuck you said you gotta right to speak on shit. Sure speak on. Say what you gotta say. Come from my job. If my job doesn't fire me do whatever you gotta do but point. When when do i get to just continue late. It's tough broke because are certain people out there. That are never going to be satisfied with anything that you do as retribution. Right as restitution. Excuse me and so. What do you do with those people. And that's the hard thing because corporations are still going to listen to those people because corporations don't care about nuance. I'm gonna fucking fire. You hager numbers you wrench pote cussing out a latina woman. I got a fire. you because you're fucking prophets. Fill you nomi. Our kids are gonna fucking school board at the phil well. But you gotta fucking go so this expectation that we want. I think that's unrealistic. Though from our side as comedians and shit i think it's very unrealistic of us to expect conglomerates that only care about money yeah to add nuance to a conversation. Yeah fuck and do like. Snl is a great ho. That's a great example. Would a shame gillis. There was never gonna be a nuanced conversation around that. No baffler business. And that's bigger than lorne michaels. Just s motherfucker. This is nbc universal. You don't know how far up the totem pole protests may go for this. It could just be book at us and l. book. Nbc got pika. Fuck the whole nbc. Universal fuck universal studio. Is that really worth keeping shane. Gillis over yeah to produce a is not. yeah. I mean. I would also. Don't you feel like when when people do do those kinda mass like this guy works here. We got a. I remember that story coming out and being like other other coming after him but sometimes you hear that mob thing happened and it just passes you know like it. It misses its target and with that one. I didn't know. I didn't know it was going to happen with that. And then they were like now. We're not we're going to let them go now. I realize for a minute it could go either way because yes l. You know but most people that have said or done something. The public sphere were. Snl is concerned they were already hired. Yeah yes so you kind of already a little teflon in a way. Yeah you're right that no one's going to pay attention to nuance. I thought an have bowling yang on the show. You can't all i should have. Funky is bad club outlet your sports at the bank clubhouse right so i guess then you saw the clip there on the side of when you saw the clip. Didn't you think it was like playing like fo- Reckless and like i mean like like if you go comic as a comedian. Yes yes okay. That's what i eighty. Yes but what we also have to respect. Everybody doesn't see podcasts as a stage like when you're like we get upset. Would you couldn't tell that. I was booking joking yano motherfucker. I couldn't because i've seen forty million other podcasts. Where the fucking don't do shit like that right right. If it had been on stage it's more defensible. Ardell standups mandy crazy. Shit you wanna say you need to be protected by a microphone and at ten foot moat between audience something like that moat where a lot of perception of intention. You're given more of a benefit of the doubt if you can format versus when you're just chit chat because we just chit chat and now you leaving it up and see now we're going to get into the radio shit bitch. I got suspended. Three times during terrestrial radio I'm gonna fucking find it. And i'm going to fucking read it to you. Okay after the janet jackson titi yeah in o-3. You're on the air somewhere. I was on air. I did mornings in birmingham for like almost a decade or so give or take. Can i ask you one question real quick before that. Do you feel like you know like alabama has such a like a need like the word than that the name. there's such a knee jerk reaction from people. Do you find it like any desire or or anything in you. That goes you know. I like to change people's perception of alabama. Like when you know what. I mean like you hear alabama most people not from there from the south just go. Gee you're from alabama always like this. They have like a an immediate reaction and do you. Does that affect you in any way now. But that's why. I always talk in represent alabama anytime on tv or anything anytime. I can just sneak in the word alabama. It at least makes you double clutch and go. Oh maybe some decent motherfuckers among others. Yeah okay all right well. Maybe there's some good focus. Yeah so you do have fried alabama pride absolutely. But i mean i'm not gonna turn the whole tide of public perception as we speak right now. We're dead lasting covert vaccinations at thirty six percent statewide. So yeah. there's gonna be some weird racism. This is Where i'm sitting right now. Is the county where a month ago. A white dude called a black woman at a school board meeting the inward to her face in front of other parents like like that type of he called our house mega like they were arguing about something just in the middle of it he just do. We have a house. Megan here and y'all must have to listen to it twice. Because i feel like he did nigga with eight which encounter respect i was like you know will play. I didn't say right and say yeah. It's it's it's it's a place that is definitely behind on a lot of things but there are a lot better people here than what makes the headlines right. I shot mark comedy central. I shot my pilot here for my sitcom two years ago in birmingham in fucking birmingham full crew locals and they loved it as far as comedy. Central like they were telling people. You wanna shoot something in birmingham as well as i said. Hey man wouldn't be cool. If we shot this. In mississippi in the forest with two camp like the same level of nervousness and trepidation. Sure and they were all shocked which i have to try not to be fucking insulted by like that. That part of it is is difficult. But yeah i feel that need man so i did mornings for two the other thing you see the people you're out in the community. We did local morning show. You know so we. We got to have fun and push the envelope. But for tornado hit we were fucking out there bro. Yeah we're out there for anybody else. you know talking to people and helping people and all of that shit. Sorry but you were talking about radio. You said you had three violations or whatever like Mer- you've got written up. I yeah i got suspended. I used to do prank phone calls so i got suspended on a regular basis for those light like like that was just we who would suspend you this program director. Yeah the station to do. This is still jesus territory and some people for the sake of it would immediately. Yeah roy we're going to have to fucking gonna the city down so so to. Here's here's what i'm talking about. So o-3 janet jackson the titty falls out right. He falls out yet super bowl halftime show and that changed the face of radio that changed the face of what was considered decent and indecent in radio and in the legal language. This is from the fcc. And i think this is where it kind of falls into what we're talking about now at twitter and outrage and all of that shit and this is this is quote this is about the fcc's indecency standard. A broadcast will not be found to meet the definition of indecency. Would the material does not refer to sexual or excretory organs. So you can't talk about like you could talk about ask but you can't stick something in an ass okay. You could say throw up. But you can't say i vomited like his little new shit like this right and so here's the other thing for indecency the fcc uses a national standard for judging whether questionable material is consistent with the contemporary community standards contemporary community standards has been branded into my fucking brain for my entire life. And that just means whatever. The mob thinks is indecent indecent. Gotcha so it's really not your own interpretation like the program director can just say it well but the program director justifies my suspension because they caller called in if they call a call that means ten other people who were going to call for example. Although janet jackson revealed her breasts for only a split second the fcc concluded that it was indecent material because everybody in america was outraged by right right. It wasn't indecent. In terms of the littoral there was no nipple pasty. Like whatever like was it was it. Full nipple i think there was. I don't think there was one. That was their full nipple madonna. Look it up while we're talking. And so when i look at anything that someone says online that they say was just a joke. Whether it's podcasts. Or a tweet or something like that. If the streets say you wrong the jury spoken. Yes so you can sit here and defend it and go to jal fucking solving the fucking change but that's not going to change any of what the contemporary community standards are in those things change. That's why people were able to get away with jokes and to that you're not able to get away with now. Yeah and by the way as it should be like that right. I always felt like if You know the comedy an society changes every few years as it should so sometimes we brought up like old jokes. I'm like yeah. It's not that i go man i- i deeply regret that joke when they why wouldn't you do it now. I'm like well it's just dated and there's a different set of standards and everything's chain like. Why would i do the same fucking joke now. it doesn't it's not the same altruism but see in that but that's the problem with jokes man and that's the problem with the kilby's with the with the swan internet. Is that all right. If i used to be overweight. Right in the you see me now. You can see progress. You can see different person. Yeah there's no metric by which to measure morals. So if you saw this shitty joke that i made in oh two. You could just assume that. I'm still that shitty of a person where i only thing i'm armed with now is no. I'm not and some degree of look at all these nice things i've done in the june that joking. If you've done things that are to the counter right right but if they catch you before you've done those things in your fault you're toast because they don't give you that space for discovery to present. They don't get you. Don't get to get people to speak on your behalf. Before they decide whether or not you have morally evolved. Yes since two thousand two. By the way there was a pac- but you could still see some nipple that's the update areola or nipple areola for the streets. Everybody should areola seen a little bit of both. Okay so yeah. I mean who wasn't thrilled to see janet jackson. What's wrong with you. They're not compared to j.lo's grammy dress when she was wearing the ball on the red carpet. Or whatever was but somehow the contemporary community standards. Nobody was pissed. She was just standing there naked. Let's be honest to a standing there naked jail and i wasn't mad that either i was not upset in this episode of two bears. One cape is also brought to you by ship station. We all have things we wanna do in life were busy. What helps when something like ship. Station comes along the number one choice of online sellers. You can import orders and sales channel ship with any carrier. Yousef stations deeply discounted rates automate just about any shipping task. No matter what you sell shop affi- at sea it's on your website. Ship stations. funnels all your orders into one simple interface. You can manage from anywhere even your cell phone. You get access amazing discounts whether it be with ups fedex usps so much time so much money saved. 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Yeah and he spoke only reason. I can speak about this now. 'cause already spoke about this shit som- on rogan earlier this year and when he got fired from this is not happening because he got into it comedy central and you know they went back and forth with a bunch of host and all of that. You know the argue suggesting people in in the network decided they wanted me to host average and it's two weeks before taping and if i don't host it it's looking like they're going to cancel the taping sixty fucking comics book to do the show and so i call are. They called me and asked me. And i gotta think about it. So then i call ari and the man. Should i do this and he goes yes you should because it's going to help the comedians thing you know. This is not happening man. Show a special. it was ariz. Ari created that. He curated that over years. You know locally but the thing that made that show so special is that he was giving opportunities to comedians with a style did not fit the traditional late night. Construct yup so there's a lot of on show that didn't that wouldn't eaten otherwise not on a regular basis like the way the way ali sadique works. You can't can't put that on. Seth meyers conan in a five minute. It just doesn't it's not going to be the same. No it's a very special show. And so you know and i went back and forth about all aric. Do i'm gonna do it. I'll host the fucking show. And i been and i'll be the first to say that they're a better people that should have been picked. That were more of the show in terms of being fabric of that culture and having been on a couple of times i'd come close once or twice so they knew i had stories. It was just a matter of me. Not you know not booking it in those particular years. And then i go to all right. I'll go bro. You know you're fucking fans find out that you're not hosting this show. It is going to be fucking mayhem on. The internet. Are he's lent. I mean know. It's not gonna be that bad bro. You'll be you'll soldier. The daily show she did we become ari is trying to get me to justify taking it on the chin because clearly with the daily show i get some level of hate mail and other i do but i don't wanted and vicious as it is with fans will show up. Yeah i believe these. Strike me the type of Who pull up if you want some friendship cigar fine. You'll be fine man. i mean i. I wish i could help you. But if i help you. It's essentially me endorsing comedy. Central and i can endorse. I can't endorse it but you know what. You've just thanks man. Thank you thank you for safety shaped your help. Thanks all right. He's he left me to the fucking walk so shit so the announcement comes out right announcement gum. We get off the phone. The announcement comes out two days later. Fucked act show. I'm not on faulk and watch and it was more fuck comedy central than fuck roy. Which was thankful for gig. Yeah yeah but. I'm getting like sniper. Dm's from motherfuckers and like is like finding like my asthma. Private villa had a private facebook page at the time that was separate and apart from like my publicly. This is my facebook page for just me. And my friends from birmingham. Fuck you mother ducats ari showed you stole it. You sit lighting it up. But i can't say that i can. I can't tell the truth because that's just going to. The truth is worse. i'm saying like. I stole ari. Show is worse than ari was fired from his own show because he wanted to take his our special somewhere else. This per argues would you. Yeah well. i mean they did him dirty though. Okay i get it like i get the business of it but it was. It was not yet it was not it was it was. It was definitely to people seeing netflix. Two different things at the time You taking your popularity to netflixing ours gone. No i'm using netflix. Popularity to bring more people back over here to comedy central and comedy central and see it that way but that truth is worse than i stole the show and my job is a host at that point bro. My only objective is to get people to watch the show so that the comedians could get the shine. Because that's the made ari sock. Take that shit and fuck and took that ship bro. I took that shit from the fucking taping to fucking year later. God that's when it got hot again when motherfuckers like coming out of the fucking woodwork when it premier because now you've got images video and hey i'm roy. I'm new so this is not happening fox. You never got racist though. I'm going to give fans a lot of credit here. That's cool guys. Never got never got racial. It was just weed. It all came from a place of we love our. That's our guy and if that's not our guy fuck it which i understand and i wasn't even i almost in a way like it didn't affect me but i'm just saying that's the one time we're like everyday like even if i was at a show in mind you this whole time our in our fucking doing shows together. Yeah we're still on the same bill right. Regret friends wanna fucking. I guarantee you are hearing this right now. Is like a really. Nobody was racist. That's amazing so so fucking so what part you know. A part of it is though. Is that when i did last comic standing an old two thousand ten. That was like the first real year of live tweeting. Maybe the year before like the concept of an actor being on the show while talking on the internet while the show was on nbc contractually made us live tweet last comic standing every week. And so you'd follow the hashtag and your job was to interact with positive messages within the hashtag but also within the hashtag is all of the negative shit yet to be said about you. So you've just performed your heart out on tv and the you have to sit down on a couch. An inner and just read every week bro. And i made it all the way to the finale. So it's two months every monday night for two hours. I'm just reading all of the worst shit that could ever be said about me and somewhere around week. Three or four. I was like oh these people. Just this is their outlet. It's figuring national. Yeah it it changed. Every like i read a look. I know comics. Who don't read their comments and mute. The youtube i can read it or not but it doesn't bother me like in. That probably prepared me the most for you know when daily show gets out of pocket you know once or twice a year after that shit with ari let me show you how karma works so armee does the fuck up tweet the Opposite the the fact that the cold lately. Yeah yeah kobe tweets. we'll just say video to yet. Yes so our our ad. I won't say what are you did. He did something that pissed off the black community very very bad. I'm not going to say what he did. Because it's going to be new people who find out about it for the first time and then they're gonna what i just now found out to apologize to me right so that was. That was the week leading up to the super bowl or the week before it was before. Okay and are getting death threats from black people and if a black person is given et like white death threats of fifty fifty but a black death threat you got to consider. That's for real because that's already you're committing a crime and is black person has already. I'm already one felony in just just to get. The conversation started spotting felony slow. You know i'm good next. Three or four felonies. That come in right. I saw ari at a super bowl party. They have a mutual friend. And i just happened to see him at a super bowl party. And i'm. I'm pretty sure i was the first black person he made contact with since pissing off all of black america because he looked at me and kind of looked down. And oh no roy mad. Yeah yeah. I'll walk over to them and i go so if you've been on the internet lately know how bad is it goes fucking bad. It's fucking bad bro. Like most of black america wants to beat the shit out of you and the rest are looking at your road dates and deciding which city to come kick your ass god pam and i wish i could say something to defend you but if i defend you i won't leave condoning what you hit your strong dude. Think you whether it just you be. I in walked off. That's not covering for me bitch. You did you in any of that This is not happening. Hate that you got. Did you ever engage you ever respond. Reply anything no never it. Didn't it didn't the only one that i almost said something to someone who's related to a comic in la was talking shit to me. Part of it was a little weird. But he's young accused under twenty five and i. Yeah you know some kid under twenty five deeming talking shit hugh. It's fun and it wasn't anything through. It was just fuck. You know engage y if anything. I'm better i have an opportunity to bring new people to sh no. I think you're smart man. I mean i think one of the hardest things that people struggle with during those things is is being able to not engage. It's harder to not engage for most people they read it. And i want to remind all these things you know well go to. Nbc live tweeting. School of internet. Hate tolerance. Youtube can be zen like. Yeah that shit was fucking wild bro. Yeah you saw vicious. And then the west coast then the west coast fever. Call the west coast. You'd get your east coast eight and then you'd have to get our breather. You come back to your laptop. There's west coast hate now more hateful east coast to the west coast east coast east coast to asshole. Cities phillies in new. York's checking jersey on baltimore fucking ohio's pretty surprisingly a lot of haters in ohio. Hey there's a lot of angry people in ohio at least back then. Hieaux state was eating shit against alabama. Lot uh-huh take all the way back to bama in college football psycho. I'm not even caught up the net. Shit bro soda. I used to sell sodas. Obama games there all drunks. I respectfully in you love you. But at the game they're drunk. Those be drunk we used to. We used to sell sodas and then we will wait to after the game to walk this to walk the bleachers and just pick up wallets and fuck in little fucking mini bottles and shit. Oh yeah you're going to find a good score you've ever a good find after a game like oh man is actually not bad. Remember though this is mid nineties. This is like ninety three ninety four alabama so the cell phones. We're still carphone era at this point and i mean you didn't really know what to do with a credit card other than take it to somewhere. Formal sure pay at. The pump wasn't even a thing yet so you couldn't even get free gas. Yes wasn't there was no mill ordering. You're literally looking for cash and for alcohol back in those days. I thought alcohol would make me better at baseball. You can play better if you're drinking. Yeah yeah teammates at we. Will we used to play other teams in the city. Who would be drunk. We will get high and play basketball in like in college. Organized like bureau like go to the gym and like but like run games but smoke a little weed before. And i don't know sometimes you. Here's the thing it you either in the zone and you're hitting everything you're like the week or you smoke from and you're just a fucking disaster like you cannot get high. Play ball bro. We went we went and played some. We play inner city schools. We i went to city school and we just didn't birmingham city. Didn't take baseball seriously. So you play motherfuckers wearing jeans and shit like like like we were the serious school in every other school baseball. What basketball football guys played just to keep in shape right so really. It was intramural for them essentially It was dead serious but they were short to practice bro. They would show up two games and they would be drawn. We would see them drinking like old english and mad dog in the parking lot and they will walk in that. Feel shit faced. Drunk motherfucker would go three for four with two homers. Want like drunk. You hear about those pros that get fucked up to a lot of those guys would drink do coke and everything but the drinking was pervasive especially luke twenty thirty years ago. Oh you're talking like seventies. I thought you was talking about babe. Ruth talking dock ellis throwing yet or on asset on acid but like that era of of of pro baseball player was drinking like they were all you know on a bus in a hotel and and it was more drinking and clubhouses was more accepted back. Then someone's got stuck spotted smoke cigarettes in the show nemeth amo pitcher of him in the locker room have half time having a cigarette and a beer. There's there's that that probably started mine. Alcohol like wasn't curious about alcohol. Saw people be good at it. Be good at baseball on it really before that. I ain't gonna fuck about alcohol but then enough so when we would still fucking minis at fucking bama games. Yeah i'm taking this home. And i'm going to drink this before fucking fall playing low pickup games or whatever i was let me just see if i took a terrible terrible terrible terrible sober like like they say alcohol just makes you more of what you already were more terrible you did you. That's your game though. Baseball's your shit yes To the point why played softball for the comedy store while love like any form of to this day out fucking. Play it in a heartbeat. But it's because you can't really do pick up yup all you gotta have you gotta have all the while you got people involved. And i guess it's been on decline right like a had been for the like caloric. Yeah you think about leaving new york like if it wasn't for the daily show would you would really show you would leave new york in hindsight. I still should've left a shrill for your but it you just didn't know if they get a little better. You're going to get a little better. The problem was the only other places. I had to go but worse than new york and atlanta and birmingham. Yeah go where and do what became birmingham for two months and state with my mom and did lockdown in birmingham. But i'll be honest by the end of it was each and to get back to new. York is a certain the certain feel of a big city. That spoils you. Yeah you go home. There's just certain things. You can't even like it's birmingham. City closes at nine thirty like even when they were still open doing stuff in the numbers going through the roof just just certain access to certain snow but it was cool to be around my friends more most of my friends all my friends down south for the most part that the non comics. Yeah sure you grew up with and everything all correct. Yeah correct so yeah man it. I don't even know if i want to stay after this like i previous way so long as on the daily show that i gotta be there. But i mean. I had a five-year all he just started kindergarten. So if we're going to move the next places you gotta drop anchor. Because i'm not enough. I'm not fuck them. Die come to so come to austin. You know my issue with austin man is a for if you make a two hour circle around austin and a two our circle around new york sports stage time and try and the tristate the only. That's the only gripe in terms of diversity of were close to home like by living in new york. There's about a month and a half of proper road work that i can do and still commute home every night. If i wanted to i get that there's a good i mean there's a decent amount and it is growing from here but What's really great is like once. You're hey i'm working. I'm touring you're doing. A bunch of two and three hour flights as opposed to like four or five hundred six hours. And i'm talking about brown it kinda nice. How are you all. Have you all changed. How much has the presence of as i call it. The great comic exodus. How much of that has changed the culture in austin like do you have your culture you have to like merging with all the music can shit. I mean it's you know it's emerging. It's like right now. There's ads of this recording. There's a couple places where there's shows pretty regularly am talking about an proper austin but there's about to be within the next six weeks there will be two more like legit stages and a and then it's a matter of like i'm watching those evolved like as they are. I've met some great local comics year. And everyone's been really receptive audiences that i've performed in front of have been like really jazz excited that all these comics are here. We'll see i mean there's you know it's still. It's still like in the midst of of all the craziness that's going on. But austin and in texas specifically has been you know pretty lax on a lot of the restrictions and stuff. So they're still like shows all the time. But i don't know how this next month two months go as far as If things continue to spike are you finally going to see some. Some things change or as live entertainment. I know this a big picture you can. They're not going to cancel big ass shows across the board like they did a year ago because these promotion promoters and companies cannot afford to. They cannot afford to have concerts and shows just be cancelled across. They're gonna have to show up with vacs card show up with negative tests. Show up at masks but the not gonna cancel shows. So they're gonna they're gonna continue to be music here. There's going to be comedy I don't know what's gonna what's going to come of it but this city in particularly loves live entertainment. It's almost like the arts can thrive better in a conservative market yet in in the liberal market. Oh which is my concern. Right now. Because. i'm shooting my our special in denver in october and like every morning. I get up and i watch the local news in denver To see what the okay how. The numbers The fuck you shouldn't have asked me so the majestic theater looking royal hair amount no smaller. I'm not fucking big. You pick just just the gothic gothic gothic gothic theater as they say into but i also two weeks. We should that in the middle of october. I love two weeks open at the end of september on some contingency shit like yo if she gets wild. This is back in march when we were deciding what city and i was like i like denver but just in case. Let's leave two weeks open at the end of september as some fucking nfl flex scheduling major league baseball. Let's move the game doubleheader off night. Shit because i know for sure new york will be the last to close if the shutdown start happening from a infection rate standpoint. New york has some lowest infection rate. So maybe i can shoot a special. That still looks and sounds like something right. Damn denver is a good. That is such a great comedy time. Then it is such a great comedy. I q good diverse. Blend of people different types of ideologies. I think that's that's where i wanna be for this. One just gives a little weird parts from subject matter. So i just wanna make. It is interesting. How men it makes a difference. That that collective average i q of the city really affects comedy shows. It really does. You can go back and watch chapelle stuff and see why he picked particular like killing them softly. I completely get light. Show san francisco on all that makes perfect consensus dishes for fucking smart fucking hitting material. You know even cat williams you know when he did When he did dc Versus when he did the special In jacksonville that one too which is such a fucking great inside joke. Just for comedians The one in atlanta green jacket pimp chronicles He did that in atlanta the style in the field of those jokes. That was the place that was the that was the right place. You know to do that material. But yeah i'm i'm i got my fingers crossed. Just in the meantime you gotta keep going out and doing shows so you know i was careful. I can meet and greets but no you know like other than that like. I'm on a plane i still go and grab a bite. I try to go to cracker barrel. I sit in the corner. Like always s corner seat and he thinks it's because i'm scared that someone's going to come in and try to murder me. I'm like no no. I just know that. At least the corner. I have two walls. So that's two less directions or the cove it attack me man. i know. football is almost here. And there's no better place to get in on the action than with draft kinks. The official daily fantasy partner of the nfl as the seasons quickly approaching draftkings is your one stop shop to make it rain all season. Long new even closer to the action draft is giving all new players a free shot at a million dollars during week. One you haven't tried draftkings yet. 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You feel like i mean th this is not going away you know in the fucking spring that this is just how we're gonna live you know like for the foreseeable future. I think this is just how we live. Until they get into the government mandated aspects of it. You know a bunch of people bitching and moaning about it. But i- liking it to bag fees with the airlines interesting. You remember how much back and outrage there was about bag. Absolutely yes the post nine eleven security fees and all of this shit and they're like a now recharging for bag and back in now everybody's cool. Would it every school that. What's interesting about bag. Fees is that they came as a result of oil prices right so oil prices spike through the roof. Airline eight yet was within. You're right and airlines of course pay for a lot of fuel to fill those plane right so you've got huge huge huge surge in their prices so they got a passage. Some of these costs on our customers. Baggage fees start charging twenty five and fifty. Whatever it's everyone's everyone's spending an extra you know that the bucks or whatever creating a playing all this will then. Oil prices took a dip and they got to below record lows at one point. An airline really know you're already magnets. We're definitely not going to. And it was the first time most of them started seeing prophets. Now yeah yeah because of those extra fees again. That's when he started this alexiy fuck korie and readjusting the seats to change the legroom based on where you sit in the cabin unreined. We'd charging back fees and now. Oh if you're in front of the wing it's an extra forty dollars x sixty you know like that type of fuck shit starting to happen and so i just think that all this vaccine card passport mandatory. Every time when it mutates you gotta go get checked again eventually will become the norm or something so fatal happens a mutation that so fatal happens that will just strange people fuck out. Yeah and we're probably stand in his. Whose left standing. Now you might. You might be right about that. Let me ask you a a plane question as somebody who also travels a lot. What is your feeling. I was surprised that there's a. There's really a spread out a number of opinions on this. That i i didn't expect about somebody. Reclining their seat on a plane like you're on a plane and the person chooses to recline. Do you feel like that. That is allows on the game. Yeah they're made to recline. Why do they you know how many people go like that's rude. You shouldn't recline your seat. Mike what are you talking. Should work harder in life and sit in a seat where you're not inconvenienced. Yea some recline. It's on my mind. How many people get upset about it. They get upset. They're like that's considered or mike but the seat is designed to recline. Yeah it's not like i'm using the urinal next to you in an empty bathroom. That's courtesy right tired. Yeah fuck you now. I was reclines to motherfucker. You can recline your seat. I don't recline though. I don't recall. Here's here's what i figured out by reclining your seat as an exhausted comedian like for example back in my radio days or whatever even nah when i was living in la. I would do the sunday night. Show which unions nine and paperwork and drinking till midnight and then be up at four six am foot like oh yeah. You get an extra thirty minutes of sleep every flight if you don't recline if you don't require extra if you don't recline because you can start your sleep journey from the moment the plane board right instead of waiting to recline because now you have to wait for the taxi out. That's fifteen minutes and then when it's time to land she's gonna come fucking wake you up and say. Hey unr- klein your seat right now. You're stiff because you're comfortable issue correct. So now you've lost another twenty minutes of sleep on the fucking landing. Okay because you're trying to sleep upright will bitch just to learn how to sleep upright. I did should do a book on this shit by the way i was about to say. You've only reasonable argument for not reclining your seat that i've ever heard in my life and that is what you just said to me that you can get more window seat middle seat. That what i do in the middle seat. I recline a little to create to create that little bit of difference in headroom to headrests right sodomy. And that's where i lay my head a little. That's my little strategy fucking pro man. Get that. But i'm not good at sleeping in the middle seats and that's not really my thing i i. I might work a little bit on the plane but for the most part. I'm asleep bro. Like wake me up. When it's time for the fucking bisque offs. But i got smart enough now. Just ask for when i board and if you're in comfort plus on delta they'll usually bring them especially if i've got the bully with me the fucking kid to be happy sure i every now and then out at it but i've learned that if you do any type of real work motherfuckers can't help but look at your screen. They just can't help it. 'cause i i i do like when i see some guy with some spreadsheet and it's just number that you graphs you look at one time on a flight. I accidentally hit the old porn hub open in the room the night before and close the laptop. Didn't open it again. I was on the flight. And i had my headphones on. But they weren't sinked with the laptop yet. Oh shit yeah. Yeah with john were you watching was come on is black and these unprecedented times. You have to support import list of black voices know was so fucking racist about porn. Now is whenever it's black women lately whenever it's a black woman in a scene of porn they're always like in the description of the video. It's always why she needs the money. Oh yeah gone. Porn been just pull up. Some interracial did the shit. It's fucked up the black woman. She knew it's usually is just to sluts fucking one guy sluts but if it's a black black woman folks white man because car broke down and yeah these men ain't shit and she needs it to support her crack hat on. I find that the most racist thing i learned of in in porn. And i really mean this. Is that if that there has to be a distinction made if the woman say the white Performer is having sex with a black guy and that they also make the distinction behind the scenes. Look they go like. Oh i don't. I don't work in racial. Like i don't do that. I haven't been with a black eye yet on camera and then like there's fans were like well don't or do you like the weighing in on it. And that if she if a if a porn star is like. I'm going to do sex with a black guy on camera. That's a thing like they have to like make it like. Oh wow this is the are you. Are you doing that like that. To me seems really changing. Your gender pronoun. Yadda spoke with lisa anna about that. I did a piece on that for the daily show. She did light yeah. I we interviewed lisa for the daily show. This is like four or five years ago and she was talking about that shit. Just about how like literally. It lowers your prices you lose subscribers because that white tainted by the black dick and it ain't were five dollars a month on only fans giga one fifty wa that type of shit. They said I'm not gonna name names. But there's a lot of prominent white women in poland that don't black guys for the reason. Because they know the folk they brit yeah and so then the question becomes argue racists or some money. Yeah okay kind of what. The story was kinda rooted him but if everybody black geist in that would be the new norm and you would just accept the fact. Well yeah just be like another another male performer. That you're having sex with but see see. I understand torness different though in inequality standpoint where it's like. This is where you're supposed to be. It's supposed to be okay to be weird right. This is this is the one spot where you're supposed to go. No i'm only into this thing and that's what makes me fucking get an erection. So here's money. Please do that on camera for me. Sure sure like. If you're not. I just i don't know i. I know that there's a weird line where you know should as blurry but you know there's people that do have you seen this I forget what it's called the women. Just be butt naked eaten. just eat. no that's not what it's called but the just eat like. Is it usually eating like sandwiches and shit mutt bang there. We go but i thought that was in fact checker but monk bang isn't that also usually clothed does not naked. But i've seen okay people eating and just gonna miss for the most part. They're wearing closed during muck bangs. But can you please look up. All new muck banks or thing what to focus on x. Hamster creative original should and one st ball. Yeah someone who doesn't follow the rules of minutes. Is there a whole category. Found some naked muck banks yes. That's what ended up on me. Guess they're all black book thing and we don't talk about that at the black barbershop. Also didn't impose eating catfish to take hush puppy rugged on opposite hush. That's somebody's dream is to watch those naked muck banks that's wild. I saw a woman smoke a cigarette with her vagina. When i was eighteen and i was never the same. Yeah any of any like wild weird stuff like at eighteen. I thought too much too soon. And now just that not. Just give me missionary just regular porn with the black guy a black woman and he's got a sneakers on. Give me your original recipe. You wild fucking porn stars. Love comedy they do. You have been hit by quite a few. Actually i try to explain it to people. Think i'm being pervy but there's this weird overlap between comedians zek sex workers and shit where similar damaged people entertaining strangers absolutely. And you can go on. And it's just manifesting itself differently. You know we're both yeah. We're both like trying to get people to validate the whatever emptiness or whatever we need inside of us and you use what you got so you know for comedians. Were were being funny. And for people with beautiful bodies They're you know willing to do it. They're using sex and it always always felt like very comfortable talking to those people and have also found that everybody in the adult industry. That has hit us up. And we've done like comedy. Bits with always been the coolest in the nicest to work with cool over joe misty stone like these people were like so fucking the thing that was really sad. Though was we shot. We shot the interview at lisa and at this porn house up in the hills which from an efficiency standpoint. I've got a really respect porn studios for basically buying a five bedroom house. Proofing every room and every room is just an active porn studio in his three four scenes being shot at any given time concurrently within the same house and the living room and the kitchen. It's like some sort of weird green room locker room yet. hamann area. That part of it was fucking cool but then the thing. That really made me sad. We had a lot of wheat. Shot a sketch at the in. With ron jeremy and all these other point stars in the room in shape. And i guess somebody's car was blocked in or whatever and i ended up being the one to move the car and i hadn't been back outside since all of the porn stars at gun there every car but one or two was just a fucking beat up fucking duster really. And i'm like look the of part of like that's when as i damned only person making money's a month on his house yeah and like that part of the get. That's why like what all of these folks getting online doing. All this shit and make an extra bread fucking good for umass circumvent the fucking porn label record label industry as best she. Can i wish more. Comedians have the same fucking absolutely and especially of all the things you can do. If you're like i'm putting my body out there for you know for public entertainment. Consumption and people are getting off to it. Like if you're doing that with your physical body you should reap the benefits. You know like what you should really be. The one collected what is worse. What do you think is more painful as a performer to bomb on stage with some of your most emotionally naked revealing material that you should save only for therapist or to do videos of yourself getting choked out while performing oral sex and it only has eighty views like sure. You're literally you're literally psyching a dick on camera. Here's the thing okay. Well i'll say this past it. People looked at the thumbnail view. Getting choked down like no. I think if you were like regularly choking check your weekly thing you're always doing. It doesn't affect you as much. I think if someone had to talk you into it and you're like all right all right. I'll do it. Could this is going to get like a million views. Then then you'd be heartbroken like you. I puked on myself for you in this in this video and it got eighty views. That would be magin. Here's what i'm getting. Imagine if the two girls one cup chicks never went viral. How would you feel about yourself if you did all of that. And only had eighty views. H shit. you ain't shit was stuffed up in someone's ass deal and you still couldn't get a thousand subscribers to sane yourself and pay your bills all right. That's more depressing. It's painful life man painful life. I i don't i don't i. I don't know that. I've also revealed like so. I opened for mullany A couple of times Earlier this year you know. He's he's getting back on the horse and yet now he's on the road now. This is back when he was in his new york. Rocky balboa training montage days of getting the jokes again and i was like talking about like beep shit on stage and like there was punch lines in it and his audience just had they were so full of sympathy so there was so full of empathy for the human condition. Just people in general that they want. They couldn't even laugh at the stuff do. Aw don't say that about just and i've never felt more embarrassed. I wanted to eat shit. Yeah i know got more of a reaction roy. Got more reaction. I know exactly what you're talking about too. And it's hard for someone to really appreciate the exact. The exact emotion you're talking about is because what happens is when they're not it's rare usually to find such an empathetic audience. But there's times where you you want to silence here but then when you get to this part that's where the laugh should be and when when you embraced with like more compassion you feel like almost someone's patting you on the head. It's this is almost a level of humiliation to the feeling. No that's a joke like it's okay it's okay you don't have to make it a joke like all my god no th. This is a joke i was. I'm working on this. I'm not gonna do the bit but the basic premise of it is that i have a friend. That's in prison in alabama and he got a prison sentence that i felt was unjust so i spent a couple years trying to figure out ways to level leverage politician. All this other shit to try and get the law changed and you know petition. Signed and all of that and it's a deep conversation about criminal justice reform then but it ends with the and this is a true realization that had about myself on this journey as oh shit. I'm not famous enough to anybody out of prison. I'm not i'm just on cable. Look i'm not alabama famous like they only respect and you start listening. Wh whoa celebrity means and the fucking like the look on people's faces with like no we like you. Why would you say that about yourself. No that's not. That's not empowering. You should be empowered and feel positive with the accomplish. I'm like no that what i'm looking for here. Yeah you don't get it. It's okay but that's what moline mullany does a great job of making his audience comfortable and laughing with his laughing with him at his flaws. Yes whereas me the stranger it. They probably felt like they were laughing at me right. And maybe that's why didn't like. I'm always obsessed with why joke doesn't get the laugh. And then i start getting into the science of the syllables and move elections and all of that shit stanhope is of god that nobody really talks about him enough yet. But doug stan wanda sykes to doug stanhope and one decides to a really good job of playing with word inflection. brown paper. It's not a punchline like this right the delivery of it yeah. This is something to both of them. You know wand. On the punchline. Doug gets laughs on the premise. He gets more laughs on the premise. Then a lot of comedians. I watch which is like. He's so much he so imaginative. I think at some he'd somebody who literally is like i'm not gonna he's not gonna bring you some bullshit premise. Because it's not just below his standards but he's he's seen it all so he's he's he'll just not he's not gonna tour not going to get up without something to say. That's how always struck me. Here's a question about standup that i think you. You're closer to the ground on this than me. The comedians the comedians that we know who have audiences that have opinions about not being vaccinated right How do those a weird do those comedians tour if we get into vaccine passport land The those those with like the strongest feelings about it like especially if they're just like i'm not into it I won't comedy will. So so. So i was I was in san francisco at carbs and they announced and this wasn't permeate. This is part of the state of california. Mucky you coming in here. You got affecting show improve and bub-bubba blah and someone in tweet. Replies was like does this also apply for doug stanhope and they were like yes and my first thought was I i do wonder what his take is on the vaccine in general but also he doesn't strike me as like his audience is probably fifty on shit. Interesting san. yeah. So if you're a guy like stan hoping you want to sell the most tickets where do you go. What do you do not. Everybody has a fucking farm where they can just pull the chapelle and put folding chairs in their backyard and beckoned the neighborhood to come in la. They you're in austin. You probably could set up some chairs. That could yeah. You could find a place here and you know and it's warm enough in the winter. You could do that outdoors. Shit do an outdoor shit. In austin mosaic. I wasn't here for that yet Because i only moved here a few months ago but yes they were doing. They were doing outdoor shows. I think theo von. And i think hinchcliffe weren't they liked beachhead for the guys that came out. I mean i don't know. I mean i remember that that chapelle and rogin doing outdoor shows here. They were doing Pretty regularly and audiences were coming out. You know they were testing people to they were doing rapid tests for people you know. They were initiative. My i should is expensive bro. Yeah with dave. And joe. So but yeah i mean i think at a certain point do would cue tips to intimidate you. But he really he really put he tested in the shade. Make your thank you to stand to decide timid later. He just got You giving people god damn well. How much did you spend on any show. I'm just now getting into yonder bag for some of my shows. And i'm not even doing that for all of my. Yes shit is so expensive. I did it for a couple. It's it's really prohibitively expensive. But i would only do it special occasions your think did it in new york a couple of times but i do it more when i'm hosting the room to make the other. Comedians feel comfortable yet better show. Yeah if it's just my show and it's just me and my comedies. Not nobody's going leaking it like most of my fans the appreciate the preparation process. Yeah i think it's cool when you do had act on that only a few times. But i think most fans that come out to shows no that you don't want that shit leaked not helping anybody out Look before you go. I wanted to remind everybody again Obviously we can see you. regularly on the daily show. But roy's job. Fair can be downloaded wherever you get your podcast and you're also you also putting videos up on youtube. Yeah we throw up a couple of videos like two three times a month. We're not full production situation like you like you boys do but When something funny that strikes us will throw it up there. We just had on a bunch of women speaking out only fan porn. We at least an on. We had a bunch of women who like break. There's we spoke with a woman who just sales her used panties on craigslist. So like just make just make brad. Yeah just but then. I don't want to hear that anybody struggling a woman that attractive. It's not selling star fucking panties and her soccer shoot. The fuck is wrong with you. Get online and sell that shit. You can't keep acting like pussy sells itself. There's marketing and website go to squarespace dot com. Get a website. Okay you believe that if you go point right now one eighty videos. Someone took your word this enough. She's out there for the rest of her life with eighty-three views. Yeah 'cause she didn't take a gary v class learned from gary. You do have to market yourself. That's true you have to market it right. But it's a fun podcasts. Pro like we just spoke with her nasa scientists. Two weeks ago Next week we have a full episode about the cannabis industry. And you know people that have broken through in that and love it hiring and all of that shit right. Now we're trying to find. This is gonna sound weird. We're trying to find this is not weird racists. This is gonna sound okay. I can not racist so in mexico right now. This is a real thing in mexico because of american avocado consumption avocado farmers. Starting to ha- getting shut down low cartels. Jesus for their avocados because avocados are as valuable as cocaine in search of mexico because it. Yeah because it's just a it's a profitable piece of produce so to keep from being shut down by the cartels. Avocado farmers are hiring private security guards to guard avocado feels so i'm trying to find an english-speaking avocado security guard who will come on my podcast put it out there you know what the kid we can talk about this like. How do you get hired as avocado security. And what does that job entail. Yeah and what do you do when cartel fucking security shows up. That's and so those are the questions we get into. It's weird jobs curious quest. I love it like that. So if you're if you're a bilingual avacado security guard holler at me. And i mean that the lease racist way possible. Where do you go from there. roy williams the notes app to tight. My apology from that. Silence is where i go. Dude thank you for coming on. This was really fun for real and we're going to get that a depot get when we got this. May he go yarmuth roy. Okay nobody was. I hope you really said some shit bird tom. Salmon one goes top while the other wears shirt. Tom tell stories in birds machine. There's not a chance today. Oh keep talking scrapes booze amateur. Balaji dirty jokes raunchy over no apologies. Here's the call on a.

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498: Snakes on a Blockchain

Grumpy Old Geeks

1:32:11 hr | 8 months ago

498: Snakes on a Blockchain

"Grumpy old geeks a weekly talk. Show hosted by brian. Shulami stern jason. Philip discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet. And who's to blame. Welcome to grow geeks into filipo. And i'm brian shaw meister. Have you had an nfc week yeah. Let's have some. Nf t follow. Talk to the only thing out there in tech news this week and General news in general. You know something's jumped the shark when lindsay lohan is releasing. Nafta's yeah no. I did a lot of research on. Nfc's this week. Because i did an episode of lockhead on marketing. We were to the comes out. Same day. This show comes out where i swear a lot about. Nf t. so well There's been some news obviously I if you're a new listener to the show. I come from a music business background. So that is my particular focus. Especially when i'm looking around at news and i found the rolling stone. A field guide to music. Potential crypto boom which is an interesting article talking about it You know we've spent a lot of time on the show obviously talking a bit about the music business and about how streaming has basically screwed artists They're not getting paid anything basically and then covert hit. 'cause the only way we're making money was touring and they can't tour right now so time for An f. ts to roll out for musicians. Maybe a way to Put up chachi. That people will pay for and own. That's an air quotes So they talk a little bit about this. The thought experiments go beyond just what we're thinking about. Which is the kings of leon releasing a song or something or grimes dancing her artwork with dubiously licensed music behind it You know as you get older your your professional circles changed. A bit of my circles. Used to be the musicians in the roads and things of that nature. Now it's the music lawyers who are all scratching their heads at fdu. You gotta be kidding me after deal with this But that is what is so the but in this article they talk about what if there was a merch royalty so the artist gotta cut every time a branded hoodie. Your piece of art was resold or a system to ensure accurate paychecks for musicians. I like the idea of the transparency of being able to see where the music comes from and goes to the money and all that and like the royalty. Now hold on. If i buy a fucking t shirt. Don't i now. I no longer even own. The t shirt says basically what. I'm being if i go to a show and i buy a t shirt. I no longer completely own the shirt. If i sell the shirt to somebody now. I have to pay you a buck or two as well. This is getting fucking stupid. I get a little ridiculous giving a bit a bit ridiculous so but it does kind of get into a bit of the finances and and in terms of artists revenue streams for merchandise touring licensing streaming royalties performance. Royalties all that sorta of stuff it does exist in kind of a muck and so much to the point that basically You know as an artist you have to hire accountants and managers and all that sort of stuff to basically audit your record label every couple years. Because that's the only way you're actually going to get paid because you don't actually see what's going on and the idea that basically blockchain nfc's specifically but just blockchain being applied to that whole process would increase transparency. Which i like. I like that idea that makes a lotta sense The other idea here which again it doesn't have to be an fta. it could just be blockchain. Would be that it would basically kill the scalping ticket market if you can hold tickets within the blockchain then there is transparency as to who owns it and why and it would basically theoretically kill the scalping market okay. I like that fair enough but again doesn't require an nf t just requires putting things on the blockchain. So there's transparency right yeah you you make a private blockchain and music business only blockchain that or blockchain like an artist specific blockchain every artists could have their own blockchain. Now great we need. I don't think you're you're you're in the spirit of the show here brian. We want less block. J not more as far as i can remember so i did try and buy that kings of leon album and i i was going through. The process in the process is not for mere mortals. You thought it was hard to get a covert vaccine. Oh my god you have to set up you know you have to get your ether wallets and i set up meta mask and all this crap and got it all done and then i went to go buy some some ether. So because you can't just pay cash you know. That's i guess against the whole point they couldn't just at the door and say here. You know convert some cash into a fucking album for me. No add go by ether and so two by one hundred dollars in ether Was going to cost me nine. Fifty in just transaction fees So ticketmaster would be proud on that one so yes. I abandoned That that silly this right there. And i'm like i don't even like kings of leon so you know. If he was at least a band i liked it might have gone a little bit farther but yeah the joke for the bit was really not. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze on that for sure especially wasn't worth nine fifty and just transactions alone. Now that's ridiculous. of course. Yeah yeah. But i would have been anonymous and this is one thing i talked about on the the episode with chris. Lockhead is that you know all of these transactions are quote unquote anonymous So let's say. I'm an artist and i put some pieces out there and they start buying up my own art under pseudonyms just to jack the price up and over time. It's just a game a hot potato so the first person to actually buy that piece of art is then stuck as the owner after. I've completely inflated the price artificially. I expect to see that happening for sure. You know. it's just it's so it's such a silly silly thing and This this is what really just kind of broke my heart Some guy took an actual banksias certified piece of banks. Art burned it but not before scanning it and creating an nfc out of it and then sold the nf nfc right. And i do think it. Is you know completely appropriate that the peace in question was called morons because just keep it keeps it alive because the pieces of an art auction. So you can't get more meta than this. But it sold for three hundred seventy nine thousand dollars okay. Well that's a bargain price. Because you can buy jack dorsey. I ever tweet for two point five million. I was going to say it just keeps getting better from there. This getting so ridiculously stupid. Yes it is his first tweet which says the setting up my twitter. Twit are from two thousand six and you can. He put it up on friday. With a link to a digital platform called valuables that allows for the buying and selling of tweets autographed by the creators. Talk about a name being the exact opposite of what it is yet. That shit ain't valuable at all. Nope in no way shape or form. So yeah you can buy the first ever tweet. And guess who else jumped into the The cellular tweets market. Of course you do this. What's coming elon. Musk the money like well. Look i have a ramp coming which will address this very specifically. I have a follow up as well. And and you know since it is on the blockchain and we've talked about how bitcoin in particular is so terrible for the environment ethereal also not that great for the environment as well so there has we now have the new eggs. Nfc good for the environment or bad for the environment or is it bad for the environment or batter batter batter for the environment. So wired had an article called nfc's or hot so as their effect on the earth's climate but then over it medium. There was a piece that actually did a pretty good job of debunking everybody's case that. Nf are going to basically ruined the world as we know it It says that the way he theory and works is Think of it as a train that just always going and you know the name of that. Show snow piercer. Yes no pearson. That's it On the blockchain and if they're empty seats the train still keeps going but if you put transactions on the train it doesn't take up any more actual energy from the train because the train is still already going where it comes down to it is. I think a lot of people are saying that you know they're equating the mining of the coin and they're taking that into account but you mind the coin once and then then there's just you know the fractional transaction costs as it goes forward. It's like saying i'm deforesting You know the rainforest because they use paper to print currency and every time i use that currency i lose another tree and that's just not how it actually works once that thing is done. It's made its created that energy has gone but yes there are transaction. Costs that go. Along with those are miniscule compared to what it takes to actually mo mine the currency talk about more currency mining in a moment. But yeah all right so let's pass judgment on an f. ts here. So my take on. This is that they have potential. Maybe in the future There are a lot of aspects about blockchain in the music industry. That i like But i don't see music fans rushing to purchase and teas from artists. Look could you can't get fucking anybody to buy anything from an artist at this point so it's very small-scale stuff transparency and payments for artists and labels and everyone else in the money chain. I see as good. Killing the scalper and secondary ticket market would be good buying some bullshit. Ftse grimes artwork to support an artist. Stupid fixed the way artists get paid for what they actually do when we don't need this shit at all and as far as nfc's in general to me this seems like a rich get richer scheme. we've see very rich people getting very rich putting up an the main people profiting off them so far already rich and famous. Because you know that's the way it works Share some digital artists happened to be in the right place at the right time and just scored a big win fall. But i'd be fucking shocked if anyone gives a shit these things any more than your average person gives a shit about cryptocurrency in general so yes the rich getting richer is definitely what's going on here right now and i talked to my dad. Who's been in the fine arts sales business literal business for over thirty five years. And he's like yeah. This is not surprising. Art collectors always want the cool new thing. They want to be the first to do anything they wanna have bragging rights about it and that's never gonna change and he sees it as a fad. Which i he. We all agree on that. Pretty sure everybody agrees at this point. It's a fad if you're unless you're one of the millionaires who are making more millions him and he's like a lot of people are gonna get suckered by this and a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money which is what we've been saying as well so an actual art professional is on our side with this one and know i. I'm worried this really worries me. Is that a lot of people who missed out on the blockchain or the bitcoin rush Are going to see this as a way to jump in and maybe get a piece of that action. Yeah because that's a new thing. Yeah yeah that's one hundred percent why this is so much bigger than than even you know. Bitcoin was when we first came out. Everybody feels like they got left out. They they didn't quite make their bones on game. Stop and everybody's about making the quick buck right now and everybody wants to get in on this yet and if you just look at open seas rate of new. Nfc's being minted and put on the service it is going to be. I mean this is an epic shark fin moment. If you look at it it is a shark fin big time it is going to be very steep and it is going to fall very very quickly once people realize that now. Nobody's going to buy your gif so just be really really careful out there people seriously because it just don't waste your money on it it's a fad. I give it you know three months at the most before the news cycle has completely forgotten about it. It might pop its head up here and there again but This thing is is dead in the water deadline. Had a really funny article particularly about the kings of leon album on t- For those of us old enough. I'm those listeners that haven't only existed in the streaming world but the those of us that remember. Oh i don't know maybe being young and having an album and than having compact discs and then oh somewhere in between there was cassettes and then all of a sudden we were ripping everything and then we gave up on that and we just started streaming For those of us in this age group. I like this particular quote it said in the deadline article so go ahead and by the kings of leon. Nfc in maybe someday were worth a lot just like that digital compact cassette holding. Open your door. It will likely offer perfect sound forever as was promised at the dawn of the compact disc age that was before discover that cds degrade over time because they're recording layers are made with. The david is extremely photosensitive. It may not be worth anything and as a final note as we were putting together this segment. I did search and i am shocked and amazed that amanda fucking palmer has not done the nfc yet but jason. You will be delighted to know that she has launched a podcast great. Great just what i wanted. Just what i wanted for christmas god in a little bit of follow up from E brown sixteen over on discord. We kind of pooped a little bit on turkish airlines last week. Because i didn't do any research out it just terrifying to me He said that it's a super nice. And part of star alliance. It's got away better. Premium product over the atlantic than most. Us airlines which obviously is not hard low bar unfortunately united is in the star alliance. And i think maybe they relaxed the membership requirements for that one. 'cause united Yeah i was a. I was a member of the star alliance for a long time. They had their rewards program. Remember back when we can travel and all that. Yeah and Yeah the the biggest bummer of all of it was that i would have to fly united domestic in the news. Well even though we just shat all over. Nfc you crypto bros. Out there who missed out on the first round of bitcoin. You're in luck because here we go again. Are you ready for the chia network. Brian no chia chia near bram. Cohen is behind this. When bram cohen is the inventor of bittorrent so he has decided to jump in here in create a crypto currency. That is not as bad for the environment okay. He has a long history of stealing things. yes he does. So what this one does. You can actually start mining. now. I guess You give up hard drive space on your computer and what. What kind of does here from what i've gathered from a couple of sources here basically fills up that hard drive space with like bingo cards. So if you have more bingo cards you have more chances of getting bingo. It's just just like get up going to play bingo it at the you know with the veteran's hall cards you have the the bigger the chance you get. And that's how they farm the coin. Yeah that's kind of it. That's not gonna be doing that. I found this from mark. Frowns elders magnet newsletter. Which i thoroughly enjoy in pay for so. I recommend everybody does that. Cause support mark But yeah he's the one that put it on here and he set us thinking about going to get a twelve terabyte hard drive and hooking it up to a raspberry pi so it's low energy mining rig and Yeah i don't know at that's actually not a bad idea. Just ahead your. And i'm not on board with any of this stuff on. It gets all stupid. How much did you make off your last bitcoin run. I'm in three hundred bucks. There you go so you know it's something Not much must be all right in real news not this bullshit Google is going to stop selling ads based on your specific web browsing they alphabet inc company said on wednesday that it plans to stop using her investing in tracking technologies that uniquely identify web users move from site to site across the internet man. It's a it's a big call from a big company. They are one of the biggest out there. They accounted for fifty two percent of last year's global digital ad spending of to ninety two billion dollars according to johnson media which is a digital ad consultancy. So they have been terribly specific about what they're going to replace it with. And there's a big caveat here We will not be tracking you across other websites but anything that we own we will track you across and we will call that first party data and since they own some of the biggest sites on the internet youtube in google search to begin with They're not exactly going to be losing out on much of their data. It's that will be losing out on a lot of data so that fifty two percent just went up to sixty two percent. Yeah well we'll adspend. I've read a lot about this. And a lot of people have come to the exact same conclusion yours truly included is that they wouldn't be jumping on this unless they had something better in the wings and that's what they've got so Yeah this is not some altruistic way for them to say a. Were protecting your privacy by turning off third party cookies it just means. We're going to eat more of the cookies that's all. Yeah so yeah. We have a bigger and better cookie. Monster leeann rolling. And i saw this one over it wired. I had to chuckle gig companies. Fear a worker shortage despite a recession so turns out turns out here even though you know we have massive unemployment in the us to the pandemic people don't want to drive for uber and lift anymore could be that they have figured out that as you know contract drivers. They're just getting fucked in the ear while being hung upside down over a snake pit for driving for these companies. Who'd have thunk it. That maybe somebody have has finally figured out that working for these companies is a bad idea. Report working air quotes. Yeah i mean they you know. Obviously these companies have have promoted the unicorns out there that people that actually make a good living working for them but the vast majority of people don't I think we saw a number of reports the talked about how you know. Basically they were clearing less than minimum wage. When you took into account all the costs involved of your car Wear and tear service gas all that sorta stuff It's yeah i. It's not a real job. It's just not In general so he can get lucky. Just like you could potentially get lucky mining g going but Chances are it's all gamble. So i actually have a better chance of making more money on g aucoin than you do as an uber driver. Probably probably so. We've talked a lot about a universal basic income Over the years. And how we think it's kind of a good idea but we haven't really seen any large scale examples of it We need to study at a bit. More and stockton's basic income experiment has apparently paid off. I think we talked about this when they launched it so they did a small demonstration program sending payments of five hundred dollars a month to one hundred twenty five randomly selected individuals living in neighborhoods with average incomes lower than the city median. Forty six thousand dollars a year They were allowed to spend the money any way that they want. They were not a obligated to complete any drug tests. Interviews means our asset tests or work requirements. They just got the money. No strings attached whatsoever and this is a relatively common highly. Effective method of poverty. Alleviation used all over the world in low income and high income countries in rural areas and cities and particularly for households with children but not in the united states. Because we don't do anything that is known as family benefits. In fact we spend less of our gdp on what is known as family benefits than any other country in the organization for economic cooperation and development except for turkey. All right second mentioned turkey on the show. Yep so we got rid of that because we kind of feel that If you're on welfare your loser and the best route out of poverty is is not a handout. But a hand up. Let's get you a job driving for uber. Hustle house hustle. Yeah come on a rising grind months ago. That's right so unfortunately the study has proved that to be false. Actually giving people money helps okay. How did they test well. They they basically did They dug a be comparisons. They had groups of people that didn't get the money and they had groups of people that did get the money and we basically found out that giving people some guaranteed income did not stop them from working at basically gave them a hand up to do things like you know. Get a better laptop or get a suit or whatever that enable them to go out and get the stability that they needed to find and go out and find and take a new job or are the people that got the money were healthier happier less anxious than their counterparts in the control group so caches a better way to cure some forms of depression and anxiety than prozac said the former mayor of stockton who spearheaded the project. So many of the illnesses we see in our community are result of toxic stress and elevated cortisol levels anxiety directly attributed to income vote volatility and not having enough to cover your basic necessities. Then that's true in the public health crisis. We're in now more work less destitution more family stability less trains less strain social networks less stress fewer incidences of homelessness and fewer skip meals. That is what you be. I could give the country all right all right I really really hope that they did something for the control group after it was done because that would suck to be in. That control group relates like. Oh we're still miserable. Thanks thanks for nothing literally. Thanks for nothing oh man. Facebook is back in the news. This week was so new. So they've got a new algorithm called seer and what this does is it takes billions upon billions of images of course from instagram right and without without explicit permission. You you signed away. Those rights when you terms of service signed up for instagram to let them do this kind of thing and apparently it is a reaping results. Okay so The interesting thing here is there's a guy yon lee kuna. he's facebook's chief scientists. This is the guy who basically came up with deep learning back in the day so they you know they went to the top of the mountain defined the the guy who did the thing to do their thing right which is pretty interesting but yeah this. It's an interesting new way to like train. Literally train algorithms without having to tag images like it just looks looks. Looks and learns and learns learns And it's pretty interesting. I gotta say it's pretty pretty interesting. Self supervised learning can do sometimes how we're raised but Yeah i i'm i'm going to keep an eye on this one because this is honestly stop saying. Hey i. it is a new way to do machine learning but it sounds like a pretty cool one all right bad facebook to the one. That's doing it because it's going to do is try and figure out if there's a nipple in my shot or sally more ads hot dog or not. That's what they've done. They've millions and millions of compute cycles to figure out hotdog or pretty much. And i can't even count the people that sent this one into this week. John mcafee charged with securities fraud for pumping cryptocurrency scheme. The end you know the head scratcher is here. Wait wait you can actually get in trouble for doing something with crypto currency non-jobs. Technically not technically. They're getting him the fact that he basically didn't did not He was he was not upfront about the fact that he would. They were basically ads. Yeah they were add. Who's pain civically told people that you know. This is a really good bye. I am not going to make any money off of this. I do not pump and dump for my own gain. I do not own any of this cryptocurrency but you should buy it because it is a cool thing and by say visit true that was not true in apparently He was such a security expert. He did a lot of his planning over. Dm's on twitter which can be subpoenaed where they found the proof that he was actually behind trying to do this so these never getting out of jail. He's done. he's cooked each game. Yeah it's kind of sad gotta said you know. He's he's like you're crazy. Uncle that you want us kind of see succeed. Even though these you know i wouldn't say succeed. I see him more as a person to not emulate like you know how russian kale. Yeah cautionary tale. We have role models out there that we want to emulate and then there's john mcafee who anything that he does or is he he's involved in. I know don't get involved in that. Yeah kind of like kim dotcom interesting interesting cat kinda funny what you don't wanna be hanging out with him you really don't and here we go. This is a funny one child with palihapitiya. Who is the chairman of virgin galactic. He obviously doesn't want to be involved with virgin galactic. Even though he's the chairman he decided to sell off all of his personal stock in the company to go do other things with the money and start up new initiatives. But he's gonna stay chairman of virgin galactic because he believes in the mission. Yeah if i were the rank and file harper the rank and file over at virgin galactic. I'd be polishing up my resume right now. Look in your your you can sell. You can do whatever you want with your stocks and all that night agree That you should have the right to do that. But i would just say if you're the ceo or you're the chairman or you're a high up in any company quit the job before you sell all your stock in the company. You're working for really really. I mean this one is a head scratch. So i'm not alone here right. This is a really no. This is not this. Is i agree with you. it it it just. It sends a message as they like to say. This episode is brought to you by every plate. Getting dinner on the table daily. Used to be a challenge. Now every plate plans shops and delivers everything. You need to cook a delicious meal at delightful price recipes. Come together in about thirty minutes. 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The other concerts that i had tickets for have had like five to six rescheduled dates at this point and just keep rolling and rolling rolling but according to the wall street journal We might be getting concerts back sooner than i would have thought Fans could be back at concerts. This summer industry executives who are quick to note the business was among the first shut down because of covid nineteen and will likely be among the last two comeback or cautiously plotting a gradual return to live shows as infections appear to subside and vaccination rates rise according to a live nation entertainment Chief executive officer. Michael repeat no a real peace of guy he told. Investors in the world's largest concert promoter thinks it can begin staging outdoor amphitheater shows by midsummer. Angie marciano the chief. Executive of the rival ag presents says he believes full capacity. Club and theater shows will be possible this fall which is pretty incredible Just as a touchstone here in terms of how much money is involved with these sorts of things Global revenue from concerts before pandemic rose to twenty six point one billion dollars in two thousand nineteen and began fo- before falling to six point. Five billion in twenty twenty. I would love to see where that six point. Five billion is from because there hasn't been a single fucking show overseas. i know they have festivals new zealand. So you're yeah. The united states be new europe new. So we'll see from new zealand. I know a lot of I know just from from being inside the industry. I know a lot of tours are planned. I know that the all the work has been done. And everybody's just waiting to press go A lot of to routing has been done there's are talks and murmurs of there actually being outdoor festivals. This summer we'll see unless they're in texas right now. I'm not sure what's going to happen. And i don't. I'm not sure how how ready people are to go back. I mean i know you know. In even in this article they interviewed a couple fanatics that would basically go to a show right now But the your your standard rank and file. I'm not sure. I'm not ready to go back to a show. I can tell you not until i get vaccinated. Yeah i watched the news yesterday and they had a concert where they had like six different groups of people all segmented by different levels of of protective gear. I think everybody tested negative before they went in but now they're trying to see if i apparently they're trying to test the efficacy of the you know the cova tests because if they said that everybody tested negative when they came in and they're gonna track everybody once they leave. It's like Are you just expecting there to be false. Positives or false negatives coming through itemizing. Yeah i don't quite understand how it how it works but everybody seemed to be having a damn good time so i think a lot of people are ready to go back. I know concerts. Especially if you live in colorado i i know people are and i get it and it's it's it's really up to your own level of personal comfort and all of that i suppose. But here's a here's my thing. I would like to go out. Needed a restaurant. I don't wanna go out and eat at a restaurant on the street with cars driving by and gigantic concrete. A set up to make sure that the car doesn't run into my table outside and the restaurant and i would very much like to go to a concert. I don't wanna go to. I'm not gonna go to a concert until i go to a concert without wearing a mask and i can go to the fucking bar and get a beer. I i just needed to be back to normal before i'm into it. That's just me. And god bless all of you. People that are that are raring to go and are happy to do it. Good for you. Yup canaries in the coalmine. Unfortunately so i think. I think for the way you want to go. Brian is not going to be till next year. Yeah i think so too. yeah and This is a head scratcher. Sort of jack. Dorsey square has acquired title. Okay you know with all of the idiocy in the nfc space. Jack is dipped his willie into it. Seems like you know you can easily extrapolate out that. He's going to try and figure out what we were talking about with how to get artists paid as a payment processing company that also works in crypto and has some ideas i guess so yeah Title is now under square going to be i. I'll be interested to see what they do. It again see my rant earlier in the show if we could actually fix artists getting paid for what they originally do and what they are currently doing i e their music I'm interested let me hear more about it. If the idea is now we're just gonna add micro payment tip jars To the stream. that's bullshit. Yeah so yeah. I think. I think the real way to get rid of this problem. In the music industry has just kill the music industry exacts who take all the money start their shakespeare famously said kill all the lawyers so that didn't work out. Yeah not that wouldn't go over well in your household so i watched the documentary on patrice. O'neal called killing his easy very sad documentary. Here's an interesting cat for sure. Definitely not the nicest person on the planet by no stretch of the imagination. He was he was one of those guys that you know. There's always that saying the comedian's comedian like other. Comedians loved him the public new lukewarm. Yeah yeah because it was really hard to tell when he was actually making a joke or if he was just a misogynistic piece of crap and it seems to. If you want to err on the side of caution with the misogynistic piece of crap well he definitely came from another time like there. His comedy would not fly in today's environment at all. No barely flu and you know barely flu. Then yes he's no he would've have been much older than we are probably our age so yeah different times different times but it's an interesting. It's an interesting watch kinda sad but yeah he was. He was definitely yeah he was him. That's about all you can say about it. Condor season two is back and it was apparently back in june. And i missed it because it was It's an at and t. Show they. There's this really weird. At and t. network that it was originally on so you kind of had to go to sweden get it or if you had like some weird direct tv package you could. You could watch it right. But for season two. they've moved over to epochs which. I am a subscriber to because i forgot to cancel my subscription last week after watching by any means necessary malcolm x. documentary but so fortunately i can watch condor season two because it covers season one was great. It's based on three days of the condor and this is just a new stories after it. So if you like spicy stuff and cia stuff in assassinations and all that good spooky stuff. Check it out. Well i saw some things This week might kid is super into snakes right now and we had fired up disney plus at some point and add for the jungle book came up with the big snake. Con- it so that was it. Okay i'll game over. We're going to have to watch the jungle book all right. Fine i have fond memories of it kipling the the author on which the originally based Much like patrice o'neal a troublesome individual wildly racist but of course even back in nineteen sixty seven disney was aware of what their target market was and erased all the racism or most of it So i it was great. I i really i mean the songs are top notch like you cannot beat the songs in the original jungle book. They were fantastic so It was fun to go back and watch that again. We've been listening to the soundtrack repeatedly from lady in the tubes since then Really good songs. All that was wonderful But as anybody with kids know Obsession sets in and the ad for heavy jungle book twenty sixteen appeared and there was an even bigger real looking snake so we had to watch that one as well Surprisingly good i've gotta say Did it yeah. I really enjoyed it a great casting for the most part. Bill murray's in there. Christopher walken is in there The one big misstep the snake cop Johansson somebody for the love of god tells scarlett johansson. She's not allowed to sing anymore. Ooh does she say the main song trust in me which The original version is unbelievable. Her version sox it just plain for socks. Why don't you get gaga in there. Somebody who has a voice scarlett johansson is just getting some sort of pass in hollywood and she pretends she can sing ghost in the shell for example. Yeah that was backed anyways. They were both great. I actually highly recommend seeing the the new jungle book technically. It's a masterpiece it. It's wonderful okay. Maybe i'll do that I would recommend if your kid is into snakes Go get ricky ticky tavee. Yeah that's a good idea. I think next on the list is you know as as we've always talked about one of my favorite movies Robin hood because they've got His so he should enjoy that. Just don't don't let them watch anaconda or snakes on a plane that when you can let them watch so The adult movie that i watched this week and my wife and i were quite excited about because we both grew up Enjoying coming to america. The first movie coming to america to if you enjoyed coming to america you will have a nice trip with coming to america to. If you've never heard of coming to america you will not understand this movie at all and wonder why it got made and why there are so many famous people in it all right. Did you watch coming to america before this to get caught up. I did not i not because i i have fond enough memories of it and i don't know if it would have legs or not so okay. Yeah bittner said that. It was a very slow watch when he talked about it. Hey pacing was definitely different back then. I don't know. I'm gonna obviously watch it but i think i'm gonna watch coming to america. I just just back to back saturday. You know sit by the fire. Have a cocktail in just watching both because it doesn't have to think very much no not much thinking required. So mike wrote in gents. I've heard you mentioned kim's convenience on two episodes now and yes. It's excellent have yet to hear. You mentioned that kim Paul son lee is also one of the x. wing pilots and the mandalorian season two. Just an interesting bit of trivia. I did not know that. Yeah i do remember that. Just didn't you know didn't come up with bittner where where the star wars news So we have some breaking news Apparently season five of kim's convenience is the end and not without some drama. Most of the actors are not happy about not getting a season six so they were renewed for both season five and season six but according to a post on the show's official instagram account yesterday co-creators ins choi and kevin white decided to move on to other projects that the conclusion of production on season five. So the show's producers thunderbird films decided not to continue without them and The actors are heartbroken Lou said i feel like my journey with john was cut short. Feel like you. The fans deserve better But i'm proud of all that we accomplished together in five seasons. Thank you for the love and support. This isn't good. Bye only hashtag. Okay see you which i love. That's very funny To me this sounds like a money issue. And i'm wondering if netflix because it's become a big hit on netflixif going to step up and say You guys all back if you do the season six and here is a large. Let me let me back this truck up to kim's convenience full of money yeah. I watched the first half of episode one. It was funny. It was funny. Just did not to was okay. It was okay. Yeah definitely. I'm not being sitcoms. Don't get along together. But he was definitely what you said. They don't pull any punches ups and duda brian. I got some new toys this week. All right i got the glide gear p. One hundred adjustable ipad tablet smartphone teleprompter beam splitter seventy glass with kerry case. No plastic all metal slash. No assembly required all right. I've been doing a lot of reading for the podcast courses. I've been filming. And i thought oh god. I can't memorize all these scripts so let me just get a teleprompter because like two hundred bucks and put your ipad in it and i got some software called prompt smart which was really cool. It's voice recognition based so as you're talking the script will scroll automatically for you nice. It was working great until. I put a word that it could not understand which was notably my own name and it hung. It could not get past my name right. So that was troublesome side to go back and edit the script and they do a thing with subscriptions and it's kind of annoying because i wanted i. I got like the cloud package. So i could have it on multiple devices and edit on one and sync to the other bla-bla-bla this crap and they have A desktop version. I thought it should be part of the package. Let me get the desktop version. Could it'll be easier to note another subscription on top of it. So yeah that was a bummer. So I am on the fence with this when it works. It's fantastic is really fantastic but I learned that reading off. A teleprompter is really hard. Because you just look like a crazy person because your eyes are shifting all over you have to learn to unfocused what you're reading so you're looking directly at the lens and then i figured out. Well i don't even need it that much because if you just do bullet points and talk like a human comes out even better. All of this stuff is really cool but The purpose that i wanted it for just didn't work but the one purpose that i found that is awesome is using the ipad as a second display in doing zoom calls or any any call where you have people like skype call or you know any video. Call the you have to do you use. Your ipad is a second monitor. But that on the teleprompter and you're staring directly at the person the whole time right. He's great for that. And we talked about duet display long time ago. That was before sidecar came out. Yeah yeah i got it. And i use it the one time. I installed it to see if it actually worked and i went. Oh cool neat. This works and never had a use case for it ever again sometimes. Sometimes it's better than sidecar. That's for sure so it does have some extra stuff. That's pretty cool. And you can go like you can use it for like almost like a back to my mac. Sorta thing now. It's pretty neat. But it didn't do what. I needed it to do with the teleprompter which was flip. It left to right and right to left. Because it's really hard to press a button with the mouse when you're going backwards and forwards and up to down looking at it on a teleprompter so incomes luna display and i gotta thank Friend of the show. Eric hunley for this one. It's eighty bucks in. It's a little plug you plug into your main computer then broadcast to the the ipad. Now i don't know why dongle when we have things like bluetooth and cables but it's gonna ask it's a thing it's a thing you gotta pay eighty bucks for. It comes to software to do it but it has teleprompter mode is pretty cool. I've got video In the show notes where you can actually go in and see how they they do it but between the two of them is really cool for video calls. Because you'd never break. I contact and so two hundred eighty bucks total plus the ipad and of course. Dsl are behind it. You have to use his webcam so it's an expensive option. Not too cheap rig. No it's not a cheap rate compared considering this a two thousand dollar camera on the back end of it that goes into a six hundred dollar video mixer that goes into another mixer but the you know the teleprompter in the dongola jeep. I guess so anyway Things that were not cheap. Also was the i mac pro which apple has decided to stop selling which is good news. Because that means that new. I max are going to be on the way and hopefully with these snappy little m one whatever next gen chip they're going to have is looking forward to that because my amac is getting a little long in the tooth and i love it but Yeah i want. I want me like an m one x i'm asking i really want one of those for sure. All right yep. And last week. I asked about the that new app. Despu Which is now valued at two hundred million dollars after their funding round. And i just wanna do a quick follow up on this and thanks to everybody who tweeted or emailed me. That had an invite but brian. I had a reflective moment. I had a very reflective moment. Okay and this whole invite thing is pissed me off. Clubhouse did it. These guys are doing it other apps of done it over time and i'm not going to review anything that's not open to the public anymore. I'm not gonna buy into this bullshit for an app. Which i can tell you right now is a dud. Gotta wait a day to get your photos back. You know this. This fourth nostalgia. Bullshit is really just annoying. And the fact that these these guys are gonna make a ton of money on it for a gimmick that i'm it's not worth two hundred million dollars telling you right now it's not worth two hundred million dollars area d- it's an app that makes you wait for your pictures that have no filters on them. Just so you can relive what. It was like to overpay for a disposable thirty five millimeter camera because that was the stick at weddings. You know when you were did twenty years ago. Yeah no i like progress. I like filters and i like being able to see my photos right now so there you have it cool. Yeah i'm not a fan of that Process either. But i get why they do it because you know. Tech and press media hypes up their apps and people feel like they need to get involved when they otherwise would probably just go. There's this app out there. That does this. Oh well. I don't need that help with that which everybody would react if they just put out some there. You go I am in the process of slowly getting our house. Ready to pack up and move to toronto for our final move and part of that process is kind of going through everything and getting rid of stuff we don't need and figuring out what we do need and ordering a bunch of things so the amazon truck is coming all the time here and i went and finally got some of the things that you recommended Because i can't really use them with my setup here. But once i get to toronto. They will be a part of my podcasts setup. I got the gaming mouse pad ex ex. L extended large matt desk pad thirty six inches by sixteen point five inches geotech mouse pad long non slip rubber mice pad stitch edges with portable bag. That's great. I can't wait to start using it at. It's way too big for the desk. I'm currently at but it will be perfect for the desk that i will be at. I also got the app home. The headphones stand hanger. Aluminum stick on adhesive under desks. Dual headset holder. Mount gaming accessories for all headphones comma silver yet. Which will be nice again. When i get there. Here is tastic fantastic. I got two of them right now. Yep and while. I was at it. I wanted to do a little cord management both here and when i get there so i got the sixteen pack multipurpose cable clips holder for organizing cable. Cords home and office self adhesive cord holders is things are great and they're super cheap. Yep i actually saw this in the notes and i went and bought 'em yesterday so they get here today. He's fantastic and hat tip to k. Cy veteran over on twitter. He sent this link is how airpods are deep cleaned. Now there's a trigger warning at the beginning of this video and i've she's like oh stint. You gotta be kidding me kids nowadays. What do they need to trigger. Oh my god oh my god that's disgusting pretty much how that that thought went in my head as watching it. It is so gross. I get my airpods. A little scrape scrape once a week. Yeah so so. I don't end up with one of the ones in these in these videos. Yeah that'll q tip little alcohol You're good to go so it doesn't look like a horror show so gross so gross and tom rodent. He wants to know how we rip cds nowadays to which i said. What's a cd. He's currently using. I tunes wants to know what settings we use now. That file size is not really an issue anymore Back in the day. When i did this and i guess i'm feeling like a trail related blazer right now compared to tom because it was at least ten years ago I use itunes. Mp three format because at the time that was the most compatible. And i did it at two hundred and fifty six these days i probably ripped a flak And i've dropped a lincoln the show notes. Mp three a wave flack all the audio file. Formats explained from what hi fi dot com. Which is a pretty good a pretty good run through of the different formats so you can read through that and make your own personal choice. Excellent excellent yeah. The biggest problem nowadays is finding a cd player to rip those exactly. Oh my god and Daloa writes in in. He would like to know if we have an opinion of audience. Dot co so. We have talked about this on the show. First time was back in two thousand eighteen and then there was another one back in twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty. We skipped a year a year down to must still be thing now and He goes on to say that they're on page. Eighteen has a lie in it. They say you can delete in disconnect from the platform but when asked they say they cannot delete accounts as its blockchain based net may. Well be accurate. Well i mean. Are we surprised. That tech company lied in their terms of service. Yes so i actually went to the site to go. Check it out and i got a big warning that said since they haven't applied as a us security that. I can't use the site as a us citizen. There you go. Yeah very very interesting. Yep on the blockchain to figure and barrett wrote into say the sing app and this is s exclamation. Point or bang and g hang. Adapt looks horrible. But nothing surprises me. Who wants to switch apps just to listen to premium content and this is a link to finance our lady peace to release single as nfc through the sing app. Canadian rock band. Our lady peace will release an additional single from its forthcoming album spiritual machines to as an nf t the single be available next month through the sing app which launched its nfc mental option today for content creators and artists. We pulled the eleventh song off the record so it can be an nfc and it's going to have a bunch of other unlock as well. Rain mutt made us at the band. Lead vocalist n. Chief product officer at sing said the beside basically is an nfc So there you go and blah blah marketing blah blah bullshit and. I is important to note out here that the lead singer of the ban doing this is also the company's chief product officer. So there's that would be why he's doing it. Yes take that with the biggest grain of salt that you can find yes off are more of the week is burger king. uk This is an easy one. This is an easy one for national or international women's day. They put out a tweet. That said women belong in the kitchen. I'm not sure. I even understand what point they were going for. They were trying to say that. Only twenty percent of chefs are women in that they should be represented. More in the kitchen followed by their next tweet was bitch. Make me a sandwich security. We are joined again this week. By dave bittner. Davis the host of the cyber wire podcast and dave is also the co host of the social engineering podcast. Hacking humans with joe kerrigan as well as the co host of caveat with ben yellen where they discussed law and policy as well as surveillance and privacy and today gentlemen. I do have to apologize if you hear some banging in the background and people whistling my neighbor is getting his house redone on the property brothers show and they didn't clear with me i so they are making a lot of noise outside. Allow some Some beard people on staff keep those two brothers perfectly coiffed and trimmed Not today today. It is the the mexicans unloading the buckets and buckets and trucks and trucks of nails glue. Caulk and right now. Flooring is going on Nice so yes yes. No the brothers. The brothers property were here yesterday. It was kind of interesting because there was a doctor outside in the back of a pickup truck. It looked like they were giving cova tests to the crew yup They're here for several hours and they've got you know giant cameras and screams and doing things like that. Well turns out about forty five minutes into getting set up. Everybody jumped in their cars packed up and ran off. So i'm wondering if somebody got positive test that day because they did not film a thing for the rest of the day they never came back and they're usually here all day so that's interesting because the tests are supposed to be preventive e if you're okay you go into the production and if we're supposed to catch the people who are not okay and send them home not not shut down the whole thing for the day. That's that's the entire point of it. Isn't it not i have no idea. I'm just telling you what i have witnessed now. It's funny because i do. I take my daily bike. Rides an go up the beach and there's a big parking lot up at the near the end right before it starts to get into malibu area and parking lot. Yeah because it's so remote they shoot things all the time. And there's always a production going on commercial or tv shoots when they have to do their beach scenes and all that sort of stuff and there that's all started and ramped up again and they do have big covid area testing areas before you get in so like right when the right wherever the people drive into production they have cova tests setup. It's pretty cool. I've i've often wondered. If can i just stop my bike and get a quick. That's probably you look like you belong on a cruise. So i'm guessing brian where where are you live. There's is where the Famous open to three's company was shot The yes and the house itself is a five minute. Walk from my place. Like look. If i if i if i went out the door and just down the street one street over that is the the shot the famous house from the shot from the front. The current owners hate that fact built they have. They have put up very large hedges. So you kind of through the gate to see the house but it looks exactly the same fresh fresh paint. Obviously but Well it's right there in most of it was a shot on the opening shot on the boardwalk. Just right down here at venice and they reference a lot of places that Aren't around anymore. But but the shell of the players still is one of the bars that i go to was the inspiration for the lounge and all that sort of stuff. The regal beagle is the is there a regal beagle. It was never named the regal beagle but the the building itself still stands and is still a bar. I think if you want. The i found that out you can go back to one of our episodes called. Come and knock on our door late to the game as usual but still kick out of it nonetheless. It's pretty crazy. And i do have a regal. Beagle t shirt that. I occasionally don as i walk around the area and i can tell old and who isn't by who recognizes it right. That's cool little. Follow up on one division from our last chitchat. You said that it was Heartburn to get into and manual. Aren't kidding. I thought it was funny. That the in the credit scene at the end of episode one. I'm looking at all the gadgets in gear on the table and i noticed. There's a this little gizmo with some lights and you know slighty bits. And i'm like i looked to literally right now to the left of my monitor. There's that same gadget and That would be the road. Caster pro mixer podcasters thought What secret government agency is podcasting. Their whereabouts everybody has a podcast. These any that's true that's true. No i just colorful little blinky. Bits and things. So that's all you know. I put a note in here that Along these lines you know. The death star used the grass valley. Sixteen hundred switcher. Fire other lasers back in the day. You know when. I was in that world that was always exciting to basically anytime somebody You know did one of the the bars on twitter. They'd go because they could do believe in episode one. The msci chlorine detector was a ladies. Gillette razor yes. Yes that is correct. Yes mislead the ice cream maker being carried out of best ice cream maker which evidently is become a comecon thing like they have like that guy has become something that lots of people dressed up as so they in the same way that they get all of the The slave princely leia's together they get the best been nice guys together to do a group photo. Try just i love. I mean that's just a. That's the way it i mean. I remember back in college I was you know. I double majored in one of mine was music and i had i was really into synthesizers and i had all kinds of different little pieces of equipment that flashy lights and failures and buttons and my roommate was a cinema major and he he would be used shots of my stuff for like saifi things. You just kinda ground. What's around you and looks modern. So it looks incredibly outdated in the future right nice. I did finish one division by the way at no spoilers my take on it is the juice might not have been worth. The squeeze was I it was enjoyable but I don't think it stuck the landing that's just my take on it. Did you enjoy the the finale. I did i did. But but i think you're i. I'm not I take issue with your assessment. I can completely see how that would be the conclusion someone could make I enjoyed it. We watched it together. The my family and my youngest son jack was really drive the driving force behind wanting to watch it. I'd not sure we my wife. And i would have made it through the the the speed bump you have to get over in the beginning to the good stuff I'm glad we stuck it through and you know like one of the things my wife said is that there's in the marvel universe. There's just so much to keep track of and you see you then the yes. Thank you very much and the mcu you need a like a sherpa to lead you along some of these stories and for us. That's our son so who is that. And what does that have to do with this. And he of course has all those answers but I've seen movies. And i was lost on half of. It's like you don't have to have you know you need was at mcu a pedia to be able to look stuff up or something something that will just like they have What do they call that on. When you're watching an amazon prime show x ray x ray. They need an x ray for anything marvel period. Because you need to pull up and say okay. What's the seven movies. This person was in. What's the easter egg. That's happening right now. That i know i should be having a bit of nostalgia for but i'm not quite getting it. You know it's like well. If i want to date myself i'd say you mean like pop up videos pop up video poker right. I remember being really annoyed. When pop up videos i came out because i didn't know they come out and i'd be watching video. What's all this crap on the screen. I want to watch the video. I will say i. I can see you being annoyed as a viewer. Imagine if you were the artists as i wo- quite a few of them and they were made fun of incessantly in their pop up videos and they were not pleased about any of that. I bet i bet. Papa podcasting new thing okay. I can have somebody come in with random like voiceovers going on episode four hundred and twenty three. They mentioned the the three's company before and regal beagle was mentioned in episodes two hundred forty two and one ninety two and mom up right now. It took twenty five minutes for them to actually get to security. In the security second overtime the security section became less and less about security there was great episode where they exclusively talked about the ice cream maker from and okay so i got a little follow one more little bit of follow up from last week and we because we talked about the tom. Cruise deepfakes Now let's play headline roulette. 'cause i didn't read the articles on this one because one of them was behind a paywall and the other one i just didn't care anymore So we have deepfakes. A risky business warns creator of viral. Tom cruise and then we have another one that was from the times in the uk. Then we have tom. Cruise deepfake creator says public. Shouldn't be worried about one. Click thing it's almost as if there's nothing matters anymore. Yeah well that's journalism for you needs to read the articles times. Wow so i do have a little bit of Security news here. Although it's not so much for the security implication. I just think this might be one of the worst versions of punching down i've ever seen We're all familiar with the big solar winds hack. And how horrible that was. And it's gonna be years and billions of dollars before we've wangled our way through and found out what's actually happened and how many people have actually gotten act and how bad it actually is. But the former solar winds ceo kevin thompson felt free to go ahead and blame the entire thing on an intern. Conveniently was driving by ingests walking to work. They're blaming the fact that blaming it all on an intern who worked at the company who who used the password solar winds one to three on get hub back in two thousand seventeen. of course it doesn't Actually really answer any questions. Like why would you give it an intern. The responsibility for setting such an important password. Right yeah right now. This is bullshit and has been recognized as being so within the security community. This pretty much been Dismissed as for exactly what you just said. Brian. you know why. Let's put the security of the free world enhance intern that somebody has a policy issue here policy problem within their organization so and that starts at the top so this is i don't know if it's just getting more attention than it deserves you know. Is the quote pulled from from a lot of testimony but Yes it is one piece of it but to put any of the real blame on this poor intern who is probably doing what he was asked in between running out for ham sandwiches for the team i think. Just it's it's silly. it's just silly. it's all the kind of story that is perfect for our show. Fits right in So i this is back in the news. Talon and flock are back in the news. And there's a big piece over at vice by james cox who is a fantastic. As far as i can tell. I like this guy. This guy has Done a really deep dive on talon. Which is the you know the whole program of all of these networks surveillance cameras and foul or flock which is a company that will put these into your you know your hoa's or your neighborhoods or whatnot. They're pricey they're not they're not cheap there. You know anywhere but over fifteen hundred to two thousand five hundred a year per camera chains. He got a chinese camera. They do that for free exactly so it talks about how. Everybody's circumventing the laws and building dishes super system for Just tracking everybody. We knew all this. We've talked about this in the past. It seems like nothing that anybody says. It's going to stop it because it just keeps growing and growing and growing it's kind of a little unnerving the scale to which this has grown at this point a thoughts gentlemen well I think the the focus here is on license plates and I think that's a like there's a huge gaping loophole with license plates because driving is a privilege so because driving is a privilege. You have to have a license plate on your car. It is not legal for you to hide the license plate in your car. So there's a publicly displayed way to track you wherever you go and that's really what this article reflects the reality of that I don't know. I mean this whole notion of having cameras at the entrance to your neighborhood. i guess people who can't afford gates To have cameras at the entrance of your neighborhood and if a car comes in that doesn't belong to someone who's on the database who lives there. Do they get flagged potentially cross-checked with a list of troublemakers in rabble-rousers and the new delivery domino's he must be getting all the time right and so if there's a problem than You can notify the police. I mean i. I can see there. I can see believing that there's value in this. But i just see how this could all go horribly wrong and end up profiling people in all sorts of not end up. I mean i. I'm sure it is being used a profile people in all sorts of ways I don't know. What do you think. Brian i i. I hate the stuff i really do. I i wish companies like this didn't exist. i think they trade on fear And yeah find the whole license plate reading thing in the automation of it. And all of that abhorrent. I think the stuff sort of be outlawed in the same way. The facial recognition is starting to be slowly seen as not good thing. And you know. I don't know i don't know how we band together and get rid of it when it's so obvious that law enforcement and individuals. Hoa's and neighborhood associations push for it because they think it's an actual effective deterrent. Which i don't think it is. Here's the funny thing like in my neighborhood. We get robbed around four in the morning by people who come to the neighborhood. I've talked about this many times on the show. Remember when my car kept getting broken into and they come in they steal the The titles out of the car then they fake it to kind of put on another car and it's a whole. It's a whole scam that they do around here but They also steal the just the general crap out of your car but it's usually between four and six. Am and what they'll do. Is they have one car. Like as kind of like the kind of fall back car and there will be just people walking through the neighborhood. Checking door handles happens all the time and none of the cameras on the houses have enough resolution to actually catch much of you know the people let alone the license plates so i can see where the people in my neighborhood would be like. We need to install this. We need to install this. This is a bad thing happening to us all the time and you know even with as somebody who has been a direct recipient of the theft i would not have this in my neighborhood in any way shape or form mike. Okay if you want to catch him sit outside with a cop at ford six in the morning and wait for them to come by but do not put an automated system in my neighborhood. The catch you know petty criminals. But this is what this is brian. Your point comes into you know. Just laser sharp focus is they've trading on fear completely trading on fear like what would you be giving up to. Have you know. Petty criminals caught. It's not like they're coming through murdering everyone in the neighborhood every day. It's like okay. They're breaking into your car that you were too stupid to not lock it night okay. A little personal responsibility. They're finding out breaking windows. Are doing things like that. Does that justify giving up all of the rights to anybody that drives through your neighborhood. I think not and who monitors this stuff like we've seen time and time again anytime that. There's a large amount of surveillance people end up the people that have access to it. End up using it for the things that they were not supposed to Tracking a young attractive woman in the neighborhood for watching. Brian make his coffee in his kitchen watching the coffee in my kitchen. All the things that randy sorts of people who would wanna see a hunk of meat like me making my coffee. You know i mean. This stuff is always misused. Always and it's going to be If there's one thing we've known from eight years of doing the show is it is always going to be misused. Always there's there's not. We have not had any stories of amazing. You know surveillance network actually used properly by the people who set it up never ever. It's yeah so i'm just. I'm glad people are still keeping an eye on these people. But i just don't know if there's any way to stop it because it is within the bounds of the law Yeah and you're in a public if you're in a public place. There's no expectation of privacy License plates are publicly. Viewable things and i guess the one of the game changers here is that you have these these commercially available databases of license plates. And that's different than it used to be. I would love to have a conversation and maybe you can bring this up next time. You speak to ben yellen about about that whole idea of if you're in a public place you know. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy because it feels like that needs to be revisited. Now that technology has gone the way it has because it was one thing in nineteen fifties when you were walking down the street and you would think that you don't have any privacy but that was before you know four k. Cameras were trained on you at every single second and recording you forever. Digitally like different now. It is something we talk about a lot over on caveat that that very thing that the the these things need to be revisited because it does doesn't mean when it used to to be private and in public place doesn't mean what it used to. You used to be able to wear a hat and sunglasses. All you would need is just not that way anymore. So yeah yeah what we have to do. Now is tattoo a qr code on our forehead with our terms of service. You know that says do not film or it's like yeah here my pronouns and hear here my recording requirements. You can only fill me if the light is right. And you're getting me from my best angle. And i'm not doing anything stupid and i get first refusal on anything that you post to instagram. Right right yeah you know. I used to remember now again. It's it's changed a little bit but this goes back to like my bike. Rides going through commercial shoots and things of that nature the they just have cameras trained on you and they just put up a big sign now saying that if you come into this area at all. You're green beer. Likeness being used and used to have to sign stuff like it just feels like that that that in public being photographed her video has started to seep into even places. Where were there used to be. Laws are very strict laws and rules about. It's all kind of gone away. It's if you're out in public now it's game on. Yeah yeah well. And there's so many more cameras i mean. What are we all have. I'll everybody's carrying yes. I live in the i live in in in like instagram or central tiktok central. Like i can't go out of my house. Everybody is out there shooting themselves doing stupid shit like it's it's constant so like i must be in the background of a gazillion talks. Right in the funny thing is i mean. That's not an exaggeration. Even just driving over to your place the other day to drop some stuff off you would just see people running around with cameras filming themselves filming their friends. That's all it was. That's all do here that it's really. It's really bizarre. It's yeah well. I have a story here That i just only caught my attention basically because of one paragraph in it and made it sharing this is a. It's a sad story local story here in the baltimore area of A gentleman who's a retired maryland police chief and turns out that he is a serial or he's alleged to be a serial arsonist He would maintain a list of people who had in one way or another wronged him and he would go around in the middle of the night and set their things on fire including their homes and their cars and all these sorts of things. He looked like steve bosomy by any chance does not But there was an interesting paragraph in this description of how the police ultimately Tracked him down one of the pieces of evidence that says in addition to the cops target list. An internet search history. Investigators used his apple health app to show. He was up and moving when fires were set during the middle of the night. Interesting interesting ratted out by his. Yes and certainly don't google. How do i set my neighbor's house on fire. If you're planning to set your neighbor's house on fire yeah. Evidently this guy had a folder on his computer. That was that was named fires and had a list of Of people who The the grievances the had against people And this story which link to actually have some of the Security camera footage of the sky pouring gasoline all over the driveway of someone who had wronged him another police officer. I believe the other interesting thing. I mean speaking about facial recognition and all that kind of stuff one of the other police officers who sort of put two and two together and this took place over several years. He recognized the guy because of his gate because of the way he walked interest. So yeah. isn't that insult. God old peg leg right captain to toews going up anyway. Why didn't you just put it on. Google docs and save everybody. Some time might as well. Yeah chief of police. Wow so we got a little listener feedback here from jonathan. He says on the microsoft security blockchain thing. I live in denmark and we have a government system called nem. Id it's like your social security on steroids with two factor authentication plus a physical code card with which is a backup. When i changed phones. I had to use the old phone to authenticate the new phone or could have used the card. It has lots of codes hidden in a big block. So it's not just the same number each time it's a fantastic system. But i'm sure americans would think it's too invasive in socialist everything you do in denmark is linked to the nem. Id keep it up guys and jason. If you have too many mikes could you send one to. Ben yellen an upgrade. Yes i. I will note. That ben has been sent a new mike and She will he Not unrelated to this message. Although jonathan i it was it was noted by many other people that have been mike was subpar and Part of that is the so that we had sent. Ben part of that is just ben. That I don't you probably noticed that ben is a person who has how. How shall we say this. A high dynamic range part of what we had to do is send him a microphone that could handle the sound pressure levels that come out of him and we believe that we have finally cracked the code on that in that Network a good place right now but files model of microphone. You have sent him. Because i could probably do. We just sent it. We sent him one of the audio technica large diaphragm. Mike's the sort of the standard mike. That the one. I'm talking to right now So and that can handle the dynamic range that that from him but Right well the nem. Id sounds interesting. The backup physical card which is pretty cool. I like it. I mean this is not too different. From what microsoft is trying to head towards with the story we talked about last week. I'm down for this. i think it's great i i. I wish we had something like this. I can't see it ever happening here. But it'd be great. I suspect would probably see it at the state level of before anything else and so. You're you're progressive. States will get it before your. Yeah your california will have it. Texas never will right absolutely we have it all right well before we go something. I've been thinking about question. I wanted to run by both of you. That i've been for no particular reason i've been thinking about. I thought it'd be fun to talk about here So if you had to choose one song to represent the music of the eighties the decade of the eighties musically and you had to choose one song to play to someone who was not around in the eighties or it has no idea what eighties music is about. What song would you choose to be the representative piece of popular music for the nineteen eighties. And why. I have to tell you that i thought more about this particular bit than the than the rest of the fucking show that i've done right now and hour and a half show spent more time contemplating this picking it apart coming at it from different angles. I i thought well it would have to be something. That was just very popular. But then i was like no. I was so niche. And i listen to weird alternative music that they now play in whole foods so i should go. That direction should be michael jackson. Should it be paula abdul. I don't know. I don't know but i did end up on something that i'm very confident and happy with all right all right well before we get your answer jason. How did you. How did you approach this question. Exactly the same as brian. Did i question than any even more than nf t. I've thought about this question. Okay good i. When the question struck me over the weekend. I spent a lot of time thinking in fact my initial answer. I changed my initial answer Because i think i came up with a better answer and i will share the reason with you. so why don't we start with you brian. What was your answer. The safety dance. Oh without there is nothing more eighties and started his alternative but went mainstream goodwin. Yup that's a good choice. I have to say whenever. I hear safety dance. Come on the radio or whatever. I do turn it up and it makes me happy. Yeah excellent choice excellent okay. I didn't see that one coming from you brian. I'm impressed thank you jason. How about you hungry. Like the wolf by duran duran. Ooh that screens eighty s true. Yeah the only problem. I have with that one is. It's such a visual to you. You don't just hear the song you see the video you see the video in your mind. Yeah i don't find that disqualifying though. Because i video is such a big part of eighties music. True that And i i mean. I would put the video for safety dense in that category as well. That was quite memorable. Not good but memorable. My choice is drum roll. Please beat it by michael jackson. Yeah yeah yeah and also video. So i started out at my. My initial choice was thriller. I thought what could be more eighties than thriller with that music video and all the different elements of that but then actually was was. I heard beat it. And what struck me was the eddie van halen guitar solo Yeah right so. We have everything about michael jackson. Their synthesizers a drum machine. Michael jackson all eighties things. But then an eddie van halen guitar solo also eighty super few super eighties. So that's my answer is Beat it by. Michael jackson is a guy like all these all. These are good answers come on. Eileen was a way up on my list. Did you hear they remade that. I heard on other day. it's terrible. It's worse than the africa remake world. That is that is an ultimate eighties song. And it's got everybody. this is the problem with. I wanted a safety dance. I didn't think of we are the world. That's pretty good ball. No to phil collins sitting on i mean come on pretty good. The only person not on we are the world is prince right. That one out. Yeah oh well. I'm sure listeners will have opinions. I would love to hear what their opinions are. And not just their choice but the argument for why they think it's a strong opinion. I think that could be to contemplate. But i should be a top fiber because you know i would. I would throw in karma chameleon in there all right on our future buzzfeed article right right right. We surveyed five hundred listeners and came up with top five eighty songs survey monkey today making up a survey no. I didn't mean to give you homework. Jason but But i mean it is. It is the thing all of us spent the most time on this week so it might not have been the most time but i definitely put the most cycles into this and i went to spotify. I listen detracts. Yeah all right. All right answers all around i i. It's funny that none of us have strong opinions to the contrary with any of our choices. Right yeah yeah. I you know i would say The only thing. I would say about hungry like the wolf is that i would is. Maybe i would choose rio instead. See i was on the fence with it. I was on the fence with. I mean i toggle between rio girls on film and hungry like the wolf because to meet duran. Duran just is quintessential for the synthesizers to the hair. Into the how i mean. Prime simon lebron. It's hard to not pick a song that would work on planet. earth would work reflex with the same even and you got to go to the deep cuts new moon on monday or the chauffeur i mean. Come on there's so many the chauffeur still one of my favorite songs of all time. One of the greatest fucking amazing songs of the eighties. Music coroner keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars right all right guys. that's all. i have talked to you next time over at patriot. We've got some new subscribers. Jc luke and anonymous. Thank you very much over. We've got david breed. Mark andrew michael and ralf. Thank you over at i tunes. We have a five star rating from the rain five. Oh four seven. Who gave it the title for ninety six. I'm assuming that's the episode heated. 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50 (feat. Tom Leo) - Gone Noodlin'

Bliss of the Abyss

1:21:38 hr | 6 months ago

50 (feat. Tom Leo) - Gone Noodlin'

"Vases gentlemen welcome back to another episode of the bliss of the abyss. i am of course your host. That's why i'm talking at the beginning. My name is rodney mark jones. I'm an actor at home england. I also am a comedian called ruskin denmark confused. That's the point. So am i never mind. There's much more important things to be acting on. Wave like the european super league which sounds like allied a bollocks and marina being fired and old. They flew a helicopter on the surface of mars do taxes. Ooh so busy monday. How's yours going out. There in the world had this week. We have on tom. Leo who was the very first guest on this podcast and at the right this is going the very last guest me and tom talk about all kinds of things at the first twenty minutes is quite covert heavy. So if you've had enough of that Skip over that. Tom no longer takes full responsibility for the pandemic as he did. In our original chat march of last year Partial partial site this point. So he's he's back in touch with reality but after that we talk about more interesting things including but not limited to noodling. I didn't know that was either. But let your brain go where it wants to with that. What's happening with me. thanks for asking. I'm doing all right. This is my birthday week. Yes that's the thing So this weekend will be an official new age that i go by. No i'm not gonna tell you what it is because i have to maintain some level of anonymity and secrecy. I'm not an book. Read every page. Nevertheless i will have done another three hundred sixty five days round. Have i got any wiser. Have i got any older. Yes what's new with me Still persisting with the teeth you on hear me are there. Does it sound different. When i talk. I always think it does. But i've tricked many people many many people who didn't realize i was wearing them at the time tech. They are making my teeth. Straighter and i'm no longer vomiting. Wear them so. I'd say send a market improvement on on a few different fronts. Market marked improvement. This improvement has been mocked and found wanting. So that's good isn't it so hopefully by the time. We'll come out lockdown. I'll have my pulse bought sorted out of a nice new set of teeth. I'll be one year older of brand new headshots. Goodness me i'm ready. I'm ready put me on stage again. I want to perform. Oh i went to see the physio today. And they said i can now do deep squats and jumps little hops. So you know everything that was so wrong in. My life is slowly starting to get fixed by everything. I mean some of the thing. Well year as fucking been part was happening. We all we all in the uk. Coming out of lockdown step by step. We've just had some more things. Everything's heading in the right direction. People are talking more sensibly about the way to move on for woods now that we have to live with over nineteen rather than despite of covid nineteen. So that's good. And i am offering. I'm sure you can tell because i like cooking q. Listening to me not anymore. Instead you to enjoy the ramblings myself and big when i say my face exactly what you experience much changed very little very little how you doing. Okay how are you. Hey good good looking younger. Somehow it's all to make up on before every episode smart even the solo ones. just union. landry minue pants yup trying osa type trying desperate but still trying to cry. Just try to get cool doing gardner. And that's that's the way to get caught doing. I think wow west wants to telltale giveaways that or soothing. It's the subbing and and i think the particular type of sewing. It's like a combination of sobbing in Pleasurable minds right. 'cause earlier i he. I'm so the room is off if the room isn't sure earlier. Maybe tell me this. Is i understand your medical doctor. I was very tired. I had a busy day. I lay down on the bed for a brief break before had to talk to you had to be worked had to and to just wall to started leaking out of my face mainly audibles And streaming now. He's not stopping. Is that is not what is did you have something in your. Yep okay that might be what it was. I've always taken subbing to be the like the kind of almost gut gladly blocked exultation like you. Your body wants to ex high on the catches near throat. New voice blubbing. Yeah that could be blubbing too long a meta poet. So it's like right. yeah oscar. Anyone goad i laughed. I cried. I lost loved and so i don't know if i'll got enough. That was sadness or just exhaustion or a mixture of both But i was just really trying to talk. Sometimes you have to. Sometimes i have to watch that same web bambi ause and then just after finish cranking awash some sad movies and have proper cry okay. At least you don't minority. You couldn't own the other way round that sociopathic knocking. Yeah yeah your normal loose definition. How have you been how have you been. I can't believe how long it's been since. I've actually seen face covered. This fucking wig has been spent since christmas. Yeah yeah most fucking lockdown to work and you've gone back to work lockdown then kind of looked down and then i was still. I can cut through some things but you have to do the stuff you don't want to do. Yeah and then. Two days ago. They've they lifted the pubs. And have you seen the pictures of sung-po you know haven't been going back the other day yesterday a well. What was it like when you were there. It was marvelous out in the sense that it felt like it was trying desperately to return to normalcy the normalcy from prior to covid. But yeah that'd be a casra comparing it to like the day By then is that stands for victory in europe day. that's when physcially defeated officially defeated. I don't think they were ever officially to face. If modern history has anything to go. I think that might have been a premature celebration but not support these poor fools comparing it to. I think i know that anyway. Let's get down. Here is a picture of revellers in soho. And the title is no social distancing. No mosques anger and joy as soho streets packed with revelers off the local news. Is i mean what they expect people to to where their mosques and eight underneath a mosque always a as like when when people put these different measures in place. Then rescind those measures. I'm always fascinated to hear the reactions. What are you expecting. And how is reality. Not meeting expectations and how expectations wrong. Because it's not reality. that's wrong reality is just reality. You expected something different from what was going to happen. And i'd like to know why you made that. Scroll what and how how you possibly came to the assumption. The british public would decide. Well let's already six people in that. I work go and try and join in. Who's who's doing the not going to happen. These places have been booked out for months. So this shouldn't come as a surprise to end governor and i mean let's face it outside. You will down a narrow path outside. You couldn't close contact. Six people on give casual fifteen minutes. Daily exercise. allow during lockdown Are there at least everyone sign on and the transmission outside is what is it one in a thousand. Yeah as our but look. I thought this was an interesting quote about this Maybe you wanna you wanna read. Us slash bertish playwrights and broadcaster bonnie grandma who lives in the area tweet living inside. Hey doing pretty good for yourself. Feel sorry for these people jammed up in the road. At the end of my straight. She worked nice social distancing normal six landlords dancing around in glee lack. The course of the royal ballet cups have given up choppers overhead trying to gauge the crowds. I guess it sad doesn't look sad to they. Run looks to be having a marvelous time. Even cop in the middle has kind of like a. I'm trying to look tough. But i just want to squeal these people. Don't look side out these these policemen. They actively happy apps. The young lady has said that she is at home rather than out with the revelers. Miss korea has has mistaken her own sense of. I don't want to say jealousy. But there i've already done for four something else on embattled i had. She is genuinely concerned. I yes i think. That's part of what rubs me the wrong way about this quote the thing about landlords dancing around in play like the course of the rovira Well they haven't made money in a year like this is finally some custom yet. I have just been like of course. They're happy why wouldn't they and everyone's happy able to just be outside and with other people it sounds like how herbal but then if it isn't hyperbole it gives you an indication of just how messed up. Things have been because. I don't want to generalize london as but you don't see a lot of them dancing physically straights especially in the raisin. Yes certainly not as choreographed as if they were in the royal ballet which very fancier a impressive is now. If you don't just purely for glee sake as though you are in the royal ballet that i probably missed a treat ban of public should have done ballet for the pays like but in the last year and they might have done better than poco bolts. I find it interesting as well that you know someone says like cups have given up. It's like okay. You want the alternative than you want them to round off and it detain and they'll be violence and put these people in prison. That's what you want you want given up on. What's the alternative exactly give an what are they not enforcing the law to the letter of the law. I supposed to that breaking any laws. We just changed the was. That was the point of the revel revelry. I think there's a thing that they want them to be like Like almost like Like officials What they call tattle tales. Type thing like i did. I did this job Small film thing and does it covid person on sat right. It's his job to give us all the talking. You know this is this. Is this this many people here. Remember hands face baseball and then once once we were filming what he would do is every now and again you saw see him. He'd be poking around his head around the corner like see so three people the other he'd start to make a beeline for them. They catch him at the corner. There start to separate mosque. Been around the chin would start to creep. Good good on him forgetting off his ass and actually trying to do his job. If i may i would probably just get to made his stuff in betas here. Wendy off the official thing in me as in america's feet. Yeah of course they don't use use any metric anything unless the dealing drugs through the right exactly. And even then i don't know i'm just going by saif Woodson friends to get this right. The code that supervisor as relieving end of the day you know outside sangha by. He's like the last person coincidently in the line that we're saying by to see you went. Take care well. I mean he is on a on the set of a Of presumably some sort of dramatic fitter ask thing in character. He's he's playing the role of somebody who isn't a hoover over measures involving covets. I probably to him by whatever they give over here. Yeah right it's not even bath after acronym so what you also on all this stuff. I presume you've had your job. Which i know. She had my thoughts on everything. But your partner must actually my partner has. She's had her. First of two kaitlin astrazeneca. i think. So yeah the one that recently came out with all the clubs prior to johnson johnson. Yeah now i'm not so. I need to quotes in thirty million dollars as a astronomically small figures and the the big shot that's been happening over. The incident is comparing those quoting figures to the quoting figures of birth control homer birth control women which is obviously the risk of clubs for though is far higher given that you take them daily right so you know today says covid vaccine risk of clubs daily dose of hormonal contraceptive much higher. Possibly for however many you know have many years. The average will intakes that full ridiculously high risk but makes a good headline darna. Exactly thank the headline. Msn agree glee headline speaking of great headlines. I know you're about to tell me what you're interested but this i thought you would get. Shanna pronounce his name. Good smile slaps mourners and sleeps in st outside team or less stay hospital in covid nineteen protests. This is their president countries first. President joins mass rally disputing government session. That amanda borjas great name dodge bars. I mean So who's saying so. The government's asserted that this blood start of current of ours which you know given the current state of the world entirely plausible. This black here. Who's the president is disputing that and slapping people in the street. Because that's might. Is this how you feel. I guess is my point. All you all you to the level now of slapping people in the street when we first you you were the first guest on this podcast back in the beginning my pleasure. It's just a fat back in the beginning of of lockdown. He you are back together. I mean remember. he sang. It was like a dream view oil. Just while these fantasies come true. How do you feel now. Bain back on the podcast. I wore off as a you asking portgual. Still the rhino. I'll never get the true answer about the cost true on the code. I mean it's it's one of those things that you love walk more than a year now so it just. It's the novelty has worn off which means the the novelty of being any under any sort of government restriction has gone from a fair enough. Let's do innate to to get done to control. I'm sorry and ladies which is what that phrase is useful when you often say let's To being like all right. I'm still going to respect. You know the measures you've put in place but really you taking the piss now. It's been more than a year. I mean everyone's hindsight is twenty twenty. It's very difficult to genuinely criticized. The governing body for the decisions is made. In retrospect but at the same time. Donna fucking better job nine. No i couldn't have bought. I am still a little bit for born and Miffed at how poorly the whole thing has seems to have been handled and again. It's difficult to make any sort of any sort of criticism without sounding bit like a tool because again. I'm not the guy who would have done better. Because what do i know. I'm not even in that in that profession but as a citizen of this country. Using right yeah. You're right. I think it's fair enough to expect the people in charge to do a good job of being joan. Does that at least acted up the number flops on things that really shouldn't have been there shouldn't have been in a position to flip flop on the big one that was mosques so old mate whatever. His name is the head head honcho of token science. Next bars is violence or witty. They both kinda decipher i. I mean i don't want to misquote guy so I think was witty. But i couldn't be sure whoever was the head medical dude who said Mosques are unnecessary earlier in the pandemic like march april last year. I think it was and then now mosques alike the the standard procedure of everything as part of me. It's just like so. What what daughter did this dude say. That made him shore that it was okay to go out and say you don't need mosques because i can understand saying from scientific and know go to little interest in science sorry from scientific perspective. I can understand saying we don't have the data to support other option. I can't tell you the wearing moss will have any effect on it. Have that data. I can understand sign up. Have daughter of something scientifically speaking. You can't make a comment. You turned have anything to back up with but to go out and say you don't need mosques dark ball with mosques and yet just to clear up is true. Fourth of march twenty twenty. Chris witty instead advises people directly wash their hands till public not to wear mosques. Yeah and used to. I'd love to ask. I'd love to ask the dude. What made you show that. You could say that to the public with confidence. And then obviously. In retrospect he's had Not only that. But mandate the wearing of moss clinton close spaces like they kind of advise even to and the washing the hans thing. I mean they still say it. But you're not gonna catch covert through hearts. You got so far less likely. Yeah yes going through droplets in the air yet so mother-in-law but but his the thing even though it's it's it's it's a novel corona virus is still a corona virus and like ol- corona viruses that spread in the same way and we know mosques work have been around for ages. We already do like like you said. We actually do have some information about that yet. The new one is different in certain ways but is also similar in certain ways what annoys me is the certainty. What what what could have been okay with with him. Saying wait aren't the mosques are going to be effective at this stage when not advising them because we don't have any doctor says suggests that they are necessary measure if he'd said something along those lonzo bin laden Cook you don't have the data econ advise. That's just good science. Yeah even if you have a hunch supposed to go on the hunch because that's that's the opposite of what scientists But for him to have said you don't need them and then evidence comes through on a you donate them in fact that the main thing we need at one point that was someone this going back six plus months. I don't actually know where i'm getting. The answer from martaban the status in america who had their own issues but So one of the regulatory bodies said that if some some ridiculous figure like eighty or eighty five percent of people will cost x. You'd end the pandemic without needing a vaccine as like just wear masks in public and the current of our numbers will because it won't be able to spread. And i might that bales thank also had the same thing that whitty said. Look this. then that's the thing to say. Cdc reconsidering advice against public wearing of mosque literally against so not even saying that do anything. It's like no don't wear them. Yeah actively yeah. And that's that's what i'm saying like how do you have a stance one way and then you have to foot up to the exact opposite. 'cause the you got some incredibly wrong daughter. The informed the initial erroneous decision. Or you just made a stab in the dog and went now. She'll be right as some moon. Various reason underneath. I mean. look if there's nefarious raisins than everything. Everything that was speculation about is kind of mood isn't an awesome. Okay oh five g or anything with that by do remember early on that. That was ppa shortages. So could have been that which. I don't think it's the right thing to do you. Should you know the ends justified. The means and then if you put one message out there and then later on you like forget dance the complete opposite people like why did you say the other thing in erode. All kinds of trust even. If it's like well running outs still. And in that case you would say mosques earn assess ity but we need them for the staff who are fought on the front lawn. Everybody stay and if you have to leave wrap your facing scarf a bandanna around your face or whatever which i say people do anyway and they get away with that because i think it's like a three ply. Moss is led the minimum standard. And very few people have wear those. But i mean anything coverage it's physical droplets of moisture so anything that is blocking your exhaled breath Or co first. Nays is gonna be mitigating spread to some extent. If they just said that from the get go would it would have adna. In retrospect it makes me question the entire. It's just arrogant to have one ounce by stone presumably no data and into one eighty on a by stone. Dasa presumably again. Sorry whichever whichever whichever screw up it was always made that that girl was that really pissed me off but the rest of it's fine. Yeah yeah you finding a way to operate your working in a school at the minute aren't so twice weekly tests students in mosques. You've mosque whole thing at sam. What is it like is it or is it. It's fine really. I mean kids are hugely resilient especially the ones that i'm around. They've got They they they moan of modern like the staff And everyone gets on with. Some people have an opinion. This way that everyone does that told for the most part and daiei just. I doubt that's what that's what kids a good a put him in pretty much any scenario. Now come out with some semblance of up to to that scenario. Because that's just how do you think will be the worst affected by this in the long term. By what what what age i mean. Obviously people actually gone covid orelon covid of the what. I didn't mean lot. I meant so of developmentally like i feel sorry for like people have just graduated from high school or something right. Yeah that'll be enough. That's a rough group Kids who just joining a new secondary school not seems like how sevens from yeah. Who do you think it'd be hard to pinpoint. One specific demographic and i think it's probably merced accurate But laced interesting most accurate Anyone who's in as used as you've said a vulnerable position. So if you're in a transition a transitory phase transition what i think if you're in a transition from one stage to another one united style of living to another you're probably gonna have a rough rough time of it The other one. I would add to that the people who are already vulnerable for whatever reason so those who don't have great home lives though law Have underlying psychological issues have just just any extenuating circumstance is gonna be put over the edge by something like covered a global pandemic. 'cause none of us. You know those of us who have handed a well have still not had a good time of it. Sorry economic imagine those who have already got pretty who would be having a bad day. Even if the middle of the pandemic the pandemic's not making it easier for most people so i would say those groups who already vulnerable probably going to have had the roughest. Tom but yeah anyone transitioning the sevens away had come come in you know to a virtual environment. They seem to have done pretty well to be honest. Um yeah they. They had some some face to face time in september last year. I think Will i kind of go into the swing of of how things worked in relief But yeah i mean. We weren't no food for years. The effect will. That's the thing right because if assuming that this june the government says happens does happen. We lift the social distancing measures of me in effect yet. Massively hope that happens in effect. Go back to normal than the whole thing would have been like a year and a half give or take yet. So it's i wonder like. Is it long enough for that to be a domino effect later on or is it sure enough. There is a blip i. It doesn't if it doesn't affect your development. 'cause i remember. I was on the tube. I'm not how long ago. And there was like a little baby there and they had this kind of like the wielded looking slightly very young because they were like looking for faces. You know. it's really important that they see faces and they were they. They couldn't see. Everyone is wearing a mosque. The mo the mom pulled mosque down the actually made. The kid calmed down. Just being like expressions. Yeah and i just wonder if like there's some group of of youngsters who have been stumped in some potentially like this is hilarious top company. Podcast you say sure. I'll be in on that. I mean come on we can make stunted babies into something. Funny us you know you. Completely ri- they will. I imagine that will be a unforeseen side effects at a at a population level. Although to make that a little less blake. I would say that the younger you are the more plastic. You are in the sense that you have the capacity to adapt in transform two different scenarios. And they're certainly been people who have gone through scenarios. We've just been through and come a k. But that's a really interesting point because we have a a baby who has a year valley development without saying lots and lots different faces could conceivably struggle to at number ignace facial cues will have difficulty social That deep into that particular area so but i presumed that could be some long term effect That could just be my overactive imagination. But it's sort of assumed. Was you just trying to mind. Comic owed them like a house of cards. That make for great jenga you think when comedy clubs come back in this country that they'll be people people will want covid material although be sick of it and it would just be going back to what was really good question. Yeah i've no idea. I'm kind of thinking if you join early on laced pay it lip service in the same way that if you follow an actor who is wearing a giant black strap on which i have done. Humorous and i am not saying dirty. It's it's bit of a trump but yet If you if if you don't address something the elephant in the room rest pace portrays If you don't address the elephant in the room then you're going to Probably have a little bit of energy. But then i imagine also like all the other kind of cliches in comedy like tinder and all that You will be very quickly. You can't touch on that subject unless you have something really into about. I wonder if people will will be less into dot comedy as well because we were living in a such a golden age before and with that comes this so cynicism of bio everything. Shit think annoyances with that up right now. It's like everyone's had such a shit time. Maybe they just want to skaggs and like that's the way they locked. I ultimate between between gags and horrifically duck stuff. So i'm happy as larry to go back to gags. It's just not what anyone ever wanted side yet. I've actually had this conversation recently to relatively recently this same line of reasoning is will will people still want daca comedic topics dark comedy. I don't think they is gonna be much of a tangible difference. Except for maybe in the mainstream you know you might find a bit more whimsey in and stuff but really. I think people's sense of humor. Pretty pretty fixed developed. An good comedies. Comedy doesn't matter what what branch kinda go full. Inner once you get to a certain level With you get the treatment for aging you kind of just 'cause you funny so there is so irresponsible how you can pigeon holed up person style. that's a hype. I i suspect you might be right. It's become so of like you know you've got like a thing. Let's say Like bright williams is is a little person by it. One of his first jokes will be about that. A address like you say the elephant in the room in this. They fell thirty cheek guy by now. Now we've all got the same. Ellison bought it but at the same time it seems went to just go on stage and just go straight into tend to the up-to-date whatever bullshit that piece actually. Yeah we thou- melding to this new. Shed reality that you'd have to. You can text rate can text material But at the same time. I think there's a lot to be said for pretending that the loss year and a half hasn't happened and just letting people have their escapism. And i think it's way gags come in because gags are gags are not in dez. Broadly speaking if you're gonna put things on a spectrum there people who talk about reality in there are people who are almost surreal in their whimsey And i think that the the latter is of a lot of value if reality is just to black mining comedy your because the propaganda works just eight of itself. Yeah it's internal it's not require any external context you build the context into it. You just need shed language or shed. Sometimes you need a shed. External context Understanding of something. But yeah. I mean gags. That's why like gags gags gags. You know you can tell in text you can tell him. On stage you can. Unless pivot off a particular inflection or particu upon no something that pretty universal. Yeah yeah yeah i always. I introduced friend to mitch hedberg the other day. Never you know. He's he's he's a guy. Machine also has not messing unique delivery. So it's like an extra bonus on top just being a gag merchant. And it's like this. This is comedy from you. Know at this point. What at least two three decades. So here's the thing self contained whereas like if you're watching an actress same time. Do bits about reagan yet. It's not gonna have the same. I think i think you're right about the desire to have this like cova. Jason reality 'cause like a friend assumed friend the other day about like tv shows. They like to their life. I can't even remember. This is how much. I wasn't interested in whether say i can't remember the name of the tv show but this because they went. This season is all about People mosques as as like yes sir. I just shot off. The palm of my brain was actively remembering. Just wait. wait for them to finish. So i could say i don't want to watch knots. Yeah pretty much. I think that the yeah when you have that kind of everything is based on the context of our particular time you give yourself a an indict you give yourself in expiring For when that material is gonna be just people over. People don't understand the context of it to get what is being said. Yeah go sensibilities change in a black joke known obliquely about tracer neil. His his standup probably wouldn't get same. Reception will probably would have had to evolve if it exists in the modern twenty. 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Yeah and then you know they'll be alliance like oh yards the nine east of the nineties the still that kind of on confronted element of of misogyny that is necessarily in him but his indy coca. He's talking about In some of the same his standup special in him on colin quinn. Oh tough crowd tougher of so. I only really know him from his standup in his appearances on that thing But yeah from the alone. You know the guys company was another level to the papal hate Quote unquote competing against in terms of being the golden child of that age have been recently rewatching. Some classic comedy is not where this is come constantly cycling. Yeah i find. I find i. I quite like to go back in time and watch comedians from a bygone era and Just you know just kind of milk some for the inspiration that they are not really in terms of material but just in sound people forgotten these parallel thinking of you. If you've been watching recently. I think loans purse. I ray watched a bunch of dylan moran stuff until nov my my favorite comic ever I just just ray watched and announcing their appreciating more and move all the way in which he speaks and the poetry of his speaking voice. And just the way he can en- trump's an audience with the rhythm and the lyricism of just the way he saw even that he's jokes on necessarily they're not to everyone's taste but he's delivery of his junk's is done in such a Almost like a sunburn. Or i think the irish The irish would shown akitas like the The storyteller round the round the campfire. Something you get a new one for me like hey you know. He has this kind of puff poet health storyteller old comic on. It's just now that. I've been doing comedy for wall and that's kind of like. That was the reason. I wanted to accommodate as hell if i can do that. That's the best thing ever and nothing like that. Oh so what. I watch him still in or you know whereas if i watch people who run gags the saint in a similar vein to i do watch mitch hedberg and just think the mindset that he was in when he thought that is enviable Even his run of the mill gags just like he's in. He's in a different world when he writes those. He's not looking at reality from the same way that the rest of us To see those connections and make that link and create that that little kind of a bit. But yeah when i watched omar load. What can i can. I speak sunburn shanna. Shanansky is anglicised. Obviously in the in the gaelic spelling it has a ridiculous number of ease in a strange is dis. That scott and it's and stuff over. The house doesn't quite difficult to i mean. How would you pronounce this s. e. a. n. c. h. a. h. don't speak any galax. Couldn't even begin to pronounce the way. I've heard of pronounce his show nikki or something. That's my like australia. 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We've done precious little actual coke actual fingers episode found something that i think you'll like those speaking of long skulled simple wikipedia yes Everything's like expired. Like i'm a five-year-old type in black holes save come down to simple wikipedia when you talk in black holes now. Let's see what happens when you chop it into normal wikipedia. Just don't go google here. We go simple wikipedia. A black hole is a region of space from which nothing even light can escape. Whoa whoa whoa. That's a really good simplex nation. That's like basic english. Anyone could understand that. It's a range of space from which nothing including lot can escape. nothing can escape it including lot. Which is what gives its presence of back nece over. reflected lodge. Yeah but. I think that you're getting a bit complex. Assuming i think this next sentence in fact is too complex. The simple with the media cannot show cutting space time. I mean as soon as you say. Space time in it's highlighted in blue ikea inside the a general theory of relativity. that's complex in of itself. But if you could if you just gloss over that and pretend paper know what that is It's the result of curving of space time caused by a huge mass so space-time watts is time an huge mass. Excuse me of anything. G to my mass Yeah i mean my my very rudimentary understanding of what a black hole is Sound the person to a supermassive black hole. I have on good authority. I s mbh is also known is a black hole with a mass wind on the akron. Akron mayes clue what needs according to my supermassive black hole. It sounds fantastic. It's sounds a little bit like civic Expelled only because it starts with super then has bunches staccato often sounds like baked. I think this is. I think this is the stuff sell it. Stop being a beat. I think this is more more more than simple wikipedia branch. how supermassive black holes get started by their abandoned. Sing it a super. Massive black hole is a black hole with a mass that between ten verified and ten attend the mass of the sun. Scientists are confident that almost all the galaxies including the milky way have supermassive buckles at the centers. Note to end on right. They've got massive black holes at their centers which means what hoping slowly drawn towards a supermassive black hole. How do you this It's not theory a difficult theory. How you this for An uneducated sentiment that crowd for my standing israeli derives The big bang started when the previous Universe had timed down a wound down juta entropy Into essentially nothingness from which the big bang minutes out of the universe occurred and this is a never ending cycle of big bang's inevitable entropy burning down to nothing left from which big bang entropy repeat originally. I wish you'd explain it in. Simple repeated starting service like an accordion. Let's say it's like an accordion like you get to the end except instead of he to pull it accordion. It goes musical night and close as an accordion player. Listening to this podcast thinking that was so inaccurate upon so you pull them the golden apart but when you get to the end of the accordions range instead of you then compressing the accordion. Your hands reappear center center of a fully shortened accordion. And you just expand the next accordion. So you pull the first according into nothingness and then you'll hands reappear together with an according between them and you just stop pulling the next. According to pau previous accordion. It just gets into nothingness. You know enterpise simple It's an entropy so of like everything. Disintegrates into chaos. I think it's authentication. That's my rudimentary. Understanding of is the continual expansion of everything away from everything else. Arthur again is entropy according to simple if you're my new homepage oh it's a measure of energy which is unavailable to do work. I was nowhere near correct. I thought it was just things See your measure of uncertainty or randomness. So i was partly right you apart right right. I wonder what i'm talking about. Because there is some sort of phenomena that he's everything oh hang on talking about semi dynamic inch people. Of course you are. The science of hate mistakes you make only of science of hate. Energy is a measure of how organized or disorganized energy is present. In the system of atoms and molecules it is measured in jewels of energy per unit kelvin single through this through the deadlock. Imagine that a group of molecules has ten units of energy if the energy of the mother kills his perfect organiz then molecules can do ten units up work. However she became was organized. This is lost jump so it's harder to take it is yeah. So as entropy increases the energy becomes less organized the molecules to be able to six units of work because of the increase in entropy. Eben that i still have ten units of energy in them so the amount of energy is the same answer. Molecules is the same. But as entropy increases the molecules can do can only do less. Work are like this This cup of tea at allergy has of energy compared to the rim. The tea is in overtime. The heat and the t will spread into the room. The tea comes colder wants to t- become called dissemble heat. The tea has reached total and traffic that yet way better explanation and of i was still wrong but that was. That was what. I was trying to explain when i screwed up. I was trying to do that. Which wasn't sco instead. I said it's an base that sounded like it could have been true in answer to your original question. The accordion view own them of the universe I haven't heard it in that particular way. Five hundred some never thought about it. I've heard of the idea of it. Expands reach absorb maximum expansion and then begins to contract reaches ultimate contraction and then. Nc the extinct buying a again. It's such a cycle instead of expanding so far the tez apart the fabric and then you're left with a seed at the beginning which talks nothing on us. I mean the way we be live to see it so it's a moot point anything. Nothing interesting is going to happen before we die thinks crossed. I just liked to fit for everything to be pretty cool until amount of it to the done. Yeah that's what i mean. Given the given the state of the world due to global pandemic and all the stuff where ignoring until the global pandemic have you noticed the resolute lack of news about climate change whilst the pandemic has been sarin climate catastrophe. It's now been renamed makes more sense. Yeah yeah it's getting to the point of being like the worst case scenarios where there and looking looking further now. We're gonna have to redo worst case scenarios because people already are bit of us to change. They can sort of it. Changes necessarily a bad thing. I think it's very hard to say was a good catastrophe or refund. It's not many people view. Catastrophe members terms what was the chaos chaos in the pit tomato. That was little finger in the officers. Formerly known as game affirms refused to speak about. Now why is that little still writing those books. The people give a fuck anymore. I mean presumably presumably. They give fuck more about the books than they do about the abysmal. Tv show on the follow ups. That drugs is awesome. If i if. I were george martin and i'm not. I should stress. this show. view is not even though superficially. If i were to aid you exactly is and shrink. You say small izzy believe simple wikipedia about me. Believe me five foot. He's and he looks a bit like a hobbit. It looks like Gimle look like an old kamely. 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Yeah adam good isn't it. it's wonderful. What a wonderful world. We even see if george martin. And i'm not again gotta stress that i'm not george martin but if i were a george martin i would be incredibly paved at the Let's say the downturn in Quality of my namesake's tv show opened. Works yes. When when they when they outstripped the raw material the books now like we'll just keep doing it was it was it was noticeably poorer quality but then that final season was such poor quality and so unfulfilling giving the incredible buildup. I mean you've got to give it to him day in day. Edging champions because they manage to edge a couple million people who are really anti-climactic Season finale. yeah no. I just remember watching. I remember watching that lost episode of that loss as in just thinking to myself on. Never gonna watch this. I'm never gonna watch and i understand. I was really into like insanely into an have been almost a decade that i watched that last thing and it was just like. It's dead to me that kind of like just it was a. It was a mixture of sadness and anger and just to kind of it was like a sigh. Oh so that that. Massive part of my life and massive source of enjoyment is just nothing. It's like ashes in my mouth is cause for. Is it forever forever tainted sticking on episode one year. Like exactly 'cause i it doesn't matter how good any of the initial stuff is is building towards a colossal disappointment and now that i know that if i'd never watched as night a career what chicago seven seasons again and again and get as much out of it as i did the first couple of times but knowing where it goes knowing how poorly resolved it was Account watch any of the any of the characters go through any of the stuff because it's not worth it. There's no there's no payoff at the end of the payoff is. Brian is king. Romans wanted it wasn't that i remember when i first what saw that boy. Climate saying that black. It looks like hey could run a couple kingdoms back to back if you can if you can call him a towel you kingdom. I think would have been a great move for them to do the three episodes before the end do the whole. Let's make brand caitlyn spoiler alert. Whatever you know give the wo- chrissy spoiled because the reality. Ease of game of thrones. World is by the next episode. He had a number of attempts on his life. He would become corrupt and after a few episodes he gets killed by his brother. Dots dots war. That's where that's going to go of game of thrones. That's how that had to happen. Yeah i mean i just. I don't even care that he was king. Now the store none of the anything. It was a nothing and all the build up like every little build up. I love misdirection. I love the twists. I love the gritty realism. That actually was gritty realism. But again it doesn't matter it was entertaining Of like having a character built up to me this archetypal here are an having them just killed off screen all ended by a nobody. They just happened like robert breath in this incredible warrior. And he's killed by a ball because he's too drunk to amy spill wonderful. 'cause that's exactly how real life kicks you. Real life will will kick the crap out us something you would expecting to happen. And that's i think that's fantastic to put the nfl. Does he said in absolutely one that so high profile but then to turn everything around the the eighth hour in this case and have it'll just be real fairy tale in romantic non any of the previous stuff in just have characters who've been developed Years eight plus years behave in why is not explained by any vacate development. On are we could actually january run through all the main characters and it does. It does actually apply. Let's let's not you know what why though when you said that is I visited this costlo however loaded in slovenia show you. It's fucking amazing. Built into the side of a mountain incredible which is just astonishing. I think i've spent it slightly wrong. I think is postal. Neha and i've done posthumous on Various pajama costal Which is fucking epic and then when you guys that you like wow look. It's fucking castle bill into the side of a mountain. yeah You saw and then you go aiden and very quickly realized living here would be terrible. And everything is damp. Moss growing everywhere is talk radio going around be like. Oh yeah okay. I see why this would be actually a really big letdown. This is amazing. History of this a robber baron. Who takes over the cost for one night kills. The guards establishes is as his home base with his three wives and he fends off the army for weeks. Who are trying to get. he's got a local made. Who's using secret cave entrance to bring up food amazing story. Why we're here. You know how he he's taking a shit. Yep some on fought he the window. He's taken shit that window. Someone look they fire a cannon. Give not us how those stories should go. A lot of death happens is just you know you get dysentry inch got. You're still a human being. It doesn't matter how heroic you'll mythos built into your still if you are a real character Human you still real life human yields subject to the same physical loses everybody else and i love it when that is the kind of thing that you know. You've got these epic stories and they happen to gloss over over he of life although play up certain iki pots to make themselves. Same gratiot grim. I just i just like it when occasionally there's a little sliver of reality in inefficient testicle story. That's like garish. it's not that he's not that's a show off about how gratuities but sensitive like. Oh yeah this old real makes everything else saying better. It makes everything more tense. Because you think that's fair enough. People are people. You know the stupid response. The simple peter is supposed to you know people are your this goods in it. No so how realistic can bits like. No no no no no have there are drugs fuck you. There are some creatures around. Yeah no but it's like in a world where dragons do exist. That's just a thing that exists. That's not that's no longer stupid. it's stupid to have narrative jumps though make sense in this world you have created and then to be like that's what people had lost. They just started breaking breaking their own rules. Exactly you have to have internal consistency An even if you have an open magic system. thrones have has an unexplained kind of vague magic abilities in the world They have to have to function by a certain role. It has been praised that which otherwise you lose all white In the same way that gandalf riding tools now school in return of the king and defies that same. What beim of light that. He's used throughout anytime you say gandalf the magic. He's only got three or four spells up his hand and that's that's his thing that's what he does as this is a great and powerful demi-god wizard thing sight yet but he's still a conscious. Am you know a ring for the for the end game. He the do who comes in. And just like a hot check it out circuit is otherwise. The story sucks because no one wants to say the massively powerful character just braised through everything right story to be there. What did you ever watch a program. Called captain scarlet sir. Do you know the thunderbirds yes. Captain scholar was like a thunderbird he was it was the marionette thing he might even be in the extended universe for liner and various captain scarlet. James bond looking. Isn't it weird the for a period of time marionette. Entertainment was mainstream. I'm jim henson is not a marian it but he's you know the next best thing in hey still Essential part of styles of a of a cinema. But his hold on hopefully will play you. The intro and this is why i always i. It's captain scarlet. They've just shut the twenty th century television with a cylinder error. Nothing few is home. Can you hear anything. I can hear echoing of the sound of mine invoice unless a not something set by knowing that you can't hear the noise You're meant to be able to hear the noise. Jimmy i can. I'll show i can sing it by dunno literates the melody that The not too bad. It was very upbeat. And the thing is is the the first few lyrics. Were captain scarlet indestructible. So the whole thing was you can't kill him. He got nothing bad can happen. Yes is fucking what storyteller there. That's why i never go. Invested in superman is that like the the only way you're ever going to develop that character is if you kill people he cares about obey find a way to not make him have him being indestructible all alternatively. And this is the i. Think the route that The boys went down tv. Show the boys is you. Have the superman character become corrupted absolutely by the absolute power that he has which is that old trope of power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and. I think that's a much more interesting way to go with the characters like this guy's invulnerable and a superhero and a complete worst person. You could ever pope to mate because that's yeah is that is that good then the boys despite after the first season I'm not big into superheroes stuff like i got. I got through all the marvel cinematic universe throwing because they really well majdan actually. No i didn't even get through. I haven't seen several of the better movies in the series just purely because of fatigue it so many times you can have a person discover the powell's and then some bad stuff happens and then they overcome it to become. It's always about the tesseract. And i feel like i feel like i missed the film where they explain. Why the fuck anyone cares about the. That's that's what you that's what you trying to fund the tesseract that one point because you look like in the movies you boston you look like told me it allston Except he's got stringy hair or not luscious colts. I wasn't going to date. Just thinking moderately handsome brunette. You also brunettes. Sorry degrading to you exceeding burnett okay. Well what's the boys then. Fuck it i mean. If you've got nothing else let me watching catfish you ever watch catfish. Nice that the one about the guys who the mississippi mississippi delta mississippi delta they go noodling that. They're like waiting waist high in the water and they stick the hands and hauls fish about ruskin about distracted. Simple wikipedia noodling. Different to what i'm describing. It's it's the weirdest named for completely legitimate. Means of getting dinner has nothing to do with noodles in the slightest to. I know unless you're like wriggling new fingers like this tasty noodles for the fish but yeah noodling. Looks like it'd be fun. I mean. I've yeah. I've never done it and i've never Know much more about than having walked for each videos but apparently you'll waiting through river system you find a hole where catfish might live you. Stick your hand in the whole the catfish bites you grab onto the inside of its head you pull it out and you for catfish god. You're right yeah. Good most noble way of catching officials. Well i want to eat that fish but fast whether they may i yeah i mean at least the fish is going out on a high being like i'm gonna get i'm going to have this golden going to be eight and on this day is it is. It is a method of catching catfish using obama. Hi this is catfish in the figurative. Sense wrongly when When the person you don't want to have sex with pretends to be someone you do on to have sex with Try and rendezvous with them for some form of intercourse. This is exactly yeah. This is what they've made. They've made many series it. It's on amazon prime. it's wild yes it is. It's really interesting from a sorts psychological point of view. Because it's not so it's not always what you think is going to be. Which is some horrific troll using models pictures and trying to bilk some poor sap for money. Yeah it's it's by no means always like let's average oakland people looking for genuine connection that they can sustain with the average looking face. Yeah a lot of it's that. So he's kind of heartbreaking for one year of that in the world there's a lot of like Vengeful axis as well as for like trying to lower in. Well sometimes they still going out with the person and they're like i'm gonna create fake profile. Try and honey trump the all the wildest one was the one i saw last week vs guy was like okay. I've been in a relationship. Is person per six. Meet him now. He's like got some concerns. We've never video chat You know it's like six years. And he's not only chat on the phone once and She's katy perry. Sorry it's katy. Perry and he shows emails from per katie. Gee mouthed oklahoma something taping my new single launches today so excited and this guy's like see she really In a confined to man that right give us the details and we'll you know they go off. they do. Some basic searching for this person is and it's this woman from england. Just using k peres pictures they find the email address they find the phone number associated with that all up. He's like he's like not sound right like right. We're going to go to england. Go and meet this person. They fly to eight and go to the countryside. They meet this woman. Swimming goes yeah. It was me. I got it doing it. I didn't go as far as it did. and we i'm always creating fake email accounts to convince people. I'm a celebrity. So i can engage them for six years in online relationship. That's just as soon as wim. Just the boy. We'll have six year wins but then Then they you know they they break away and they go to the guy that like a so. Finally and he's like very clever of k. E. to do that. I i see what she's done She thinks fool. This is just the type of test recur. what's so so they manage. They meet again with this woman and they managed to convince this guy not talking to katy perry. None of it makes any sense that you would essentially finally comes around. And they have this cat shop at the end of the episode minutes to two months off the film into a little mini capture. And like you know. How are you of you've moved on. He's like yeh. I see how ridiculous it will was. I'm looking at myself now. Many meeting real women okay. Great have to catch up with the women and she goes I received this email from him and he he emails her going hiking. You'll never guess what happened to me. I flown to england to meet this woman. Who says the the source sad. Let's tragically sad. Yes i mean at some point. I guess he's the delusion that he thinks is reality is so much better than his reality. But how many people did. I mean how many people do that with. All kinds of things is plenty of people who evatt delusional about what. I've got the low hanging fruit but there's know there's plenty of plenty of ways you can pretend that you're engaging with someone so far in quote unquote above you That just makes you feel special. Yeah that's that's tragic. It is but this compulsive viewing then. They're usually celebrities. I would uh. I'd recommend this good one. That's that's worth When you the shopping for it has to be sheldon for. Sometimes it schlager for the episode was yeah Then that's is the last the exception that proves the rule. I know i never liked language. It's a weight on. It took me a long time to figure out what the hell that was something about. Ask the exception that proves which if there's an exception it company the rule and then it dawned on me. No it can only be rule if has an exception. This is because you can't have found over things if you but even saying it doesn't sound like it should be doesn't feel right does it. It's like have your cake any to that one. I know it makes perfect. Sense it but you have to learn having your cake means rather than like. Have your cake which reads eat it. That's not how. I interpreted what you mean. There's no interpretations on it. It has a meaning. You can't have your cake as in still have it and eat it because then once you don't have it anymore i just make another of no i mean i'm not i'm not what's his maker of great british bake oath hollywood esa badger. Yeah becca king. That'd be fun that'd be fine ingredient. Love flowers somewhere. I'm sure sprints. I hope it's an atm. Tom a new idea rude. Komo new speaking of bread. I'm pretty hungry avenue all day so Well now who's folks would've gone i have. I have a duck entire duck. Slow cooking on the counter with Garlic onion and ginger and my house smells insane And i'm gonna make an tired curry poor of a source. Some vegetables blossom rice and leaving luxury cow. My underwear watching catfish are watching. Catfish and watching bulbs baggers. Yeah while we got just as good arguably cool. Well i'm going to go and see what caitlyn cooking something edible. 'cause i forced her we st- gender stereotypes leave and rule in this household. Don't you know yeah yeah. 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Fancy Is Back!

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Fancy Is Back!

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Yeah especially us and it's going to help somebody that we love so much and she's gonna she created a little written a little model monologue for pichit. Go ahead go ahead. Don't know what the fuck please by the merge. So i can pay for college and i can go to parties except looks at so pleased by if you don't buy i don't have party and fun if you don't buy then i can't go to parties and i can't learn anything okay. Show the shorts. Show the shirt and show the shorts rudy. Yeah got to go to bed friends. Merch dot com and by that stuff for rudy jewels. So she can go to parties and have fun. Also i'm on tour. Andrew santino dot com. I'm going everywhere. Everywhere interesting dot com. Come see me baby to are bad for these asian disgusting ends. I was in a good mood coming here now being real. I wasn't a really good mood coming here. Rousing songs be free together every day. Ba- free to get right now. Singing the songs i was making up. Yeah and it coming here and as soon as you open your mouth. It was like dot talk. I like how higher up you are in the chair. Now yeah you did this. No i didn't do it. I didn't do it. Pete did it. Because he said i'm just bobby's longer. He's getting wider this way and shorter this way. I think the more the lower earth baby this some of these comedy piece with the fuck man come on the thing fell off the wall again. Masha sorry sorry. Sorry dude i asked him to screw remote screwed worth that we had. I said give me one eighth of an inch. And then what did you get me. I got the quarter quarter inch dude. It's not even that hard to do no fence but now you have to be at home depot shoot. I'll be better. Is that fancy fancy fancy get over here what are you doing. Oh hey guys. What are you doing here. Vance's well do guys fire me from the show and i. I fell on hard times. But i'm i'm working. Do guys needed a new. We don't even know why we asked. We need help at the show. Get in the car. Get back to the show. Get in the car. I don get in the car. Say goodbye to your friends and get in okay. We could get him instead. You want me to get him. Get in. Get in say goodbye Away go fans back fancy would have are. You is back. See you this with you. What i didn't even know he was gone. You didn't even miss him a little bit. Tell you the truth right now. I didn't even know he gon fancy. I missed you so very much. Did you miss the fans as thank you. Honestly you know. I didn't know you were gone. So i didn't miss you but by seeing you now it's good to see you again. Will you definitely missed fans. When's the last time. I saw that because all we have when we had pete and brice which is like i i understand that but it's when i was did fancy leave after. I got back from hungary. Yeah so i got back from hungary denny laugh. Who's gone. I i think and then for a couple of weeks you were gone and go. Where'd you go. But i went to spain to see my family all for because he hadn't seen them in a long time two years. Yeah yeah and what is papa. Andrea's look like now. He looks good. He looks good. How come you come. A communal look fancy would show generation. Oh it does. It's always like really handsome right and they just ugly ugly and then it goes back to hans acuity paternity. I missed him so very much. And also i wanna make it aware rudy's haroo university shirt rudy. Show the shirt for the fans there. It is these universities. Shirts are available now and rudy is gonna get this money for college. And what did we say. The money from the shirts is going for college. No coca cola in the any the in the know coca cola non-associated using the money for something else you've done for pao. We'll sue you and it also also you can't take the money and go on vacation with diego. Now what is this. is this like popping off. You have a real relationship now. I don't have any kind of what happened though. Yeah we're at the beach and he goes. They're selling coconut water. Tamboli selling cocoa and it's of weird mushroom that he collected and then So he was there and these are trail was actually like a cute very handsome. I've taught young tall guy. Five nine five ten just like got keanu reeves e hair. Oh good nice hair. Yeah and comes up and he goes. Hey did it's not my you're famous. He comes to me. That's a that's a great line as that my fault. You're famous photo dog. This guy's great right right. I love this. Got half hard do so. I'm looking at them. And and we take the photo and Young cute and he's kinda walks away. Smooth it goes he he he does he go drives into the ocean. He does he does. He's you know the butterfly. Oh he can swim. This butterfly does he swim. Is it something he does. I don't know he said the back. Muscles it shimmering in the ocean right. Are you sure you're not into no and like the the bathing suit gets wet so you can see the ass cheeks better. So he's doing strokes in the asterix will come out sunday. How old is this boy. Legal asks was stick out of the water. And i would like i write and at one point. I didn't know where he went so kind of just walked around the beach locate him again. Yeah areas now. He's on his back. And you know his not that i was looking at his little peep was seeking. Wine are the ocean right and it was kind of like a buoy is louie. Louis could follow the bulls bobbing bother. Get bobby almost like shark. Dun dun dun anyway then what's the crispy. What does that noise launching fancy wing or are you. Are you turn your mic off pieces of shit. Dude you're this guy in the middle of a thing because he gets fired and he thinks now he thinks he's i if you're if you're not safe dude. What are you eating into the microphone. You can find me. I get some of my favorite candy. What is it called. Commuters is a mason. Give it to me. Give it to us so you can't have it anymore. I want songs. I feel like a teacher. Bring into the office right now. Or you're you're going home pal. Is it really your favorite candy. Is this real. What is it give it to rudy. What is it called. Does it might be the most racist thing i've ever seen. Emma oh my oh my god the audience on cnn at home oh fancy fancy condos means what. Let me. Just say something. Do you wanna guess we could say this right. It's like when they were designing the eminem's right. The little eminem's yeah and they went to the brown eminem. Some guy said. Just don't put on your meal and fuck it you'll have to listen to this couldn't be more racists the most racist it's so funny image of gita so people can see what is chocolate. What again as chocolate peanuts peanuts. Oh my god. My god get those. Oh my god. Gandhi does the delicious race history. Mike holy shit chocolate cover race as i. I can't that is insane. I can. I be honest with you. So fuck. it's worth it. Sometimes it's just like sometimes it's it's worth how confident they are racist thing but they'll still by soaking delicious circle off and are so good. They can be racing. Yeah did you honestly like bring those in and make the noise so you could do that. Bit no such a good actor narrows such a bad actor. That is so funny though by you. But i'm just saying this is the way that worked to me now. Thinking back was perfect to. He's in spain. Yeah he's at like a store he sees can keep those see. How do you say eleven on see it. They own day. He's at the seven eleven there the day and you looked at the thing. I think this'll be good for the better friends. This is a good. Yes so he brings it back Right he eats it live in front of lives. If he makes makes the rapper loud. Fuck eats like that us. Yeah yeah yeah so. I get how it works but you know what it worked for the program. So thank you fans one-two-three thank you fans fans rudy. I watched did you post on your story. And why have you swimming with sharks. Yeah did you. Why don't you keep that video up. I'd i just posted it on my story. Not my so cooled. Swim with sharks. I did it the last time. I didn't do it this time. Oh i looked so cool. It was scary. Do you still have it on your phone. The video i think senate to pete and because we can go the time before that i did i was with colline or sister and there was one point where me and kunda cla sister was clean onto the boat like scared of sharks. Because it's like they have all these rules right like you don't. What was the rules. Don't lock lock lock eyes with it or no. You log is with a toy. Knows that you're not just a frie- then you have to be up of it right. Is that one of swim above. You can't longer. What was it flounder. What don't flounder. Don't don't be a cool little cute fish in the sea. let's go don't don't move your limbs erratically. Yeah but what does that word. Landay floundering floundering assist flower flower. Whatever that do that but it's like but let me say something it's like that in the human world as well you look people in the i know you do all those things. Stay above the above them and you don't flounder right but then the human beings that you live amongst right the they act accordingly right but you always have crazy ones. Yeah right yeah always have the dahmer's have the guy that should up virginia tat The the you know couple of a couple of loose sharks right. So when you're out there i tell you the rules that says that necessarily doesn't mean that you can't get eaten right. There can be rogue there can be r-rise so meek window were out there and one shark was looking up at us and he got now oh he was over. Yeah i was doing all the things like this locked is oh and i could see them go. You know how they say to people because they they a lot of times surfers get bit. They say because it looks like a fish. Because the surfboard is is bowed. Like this gay and then your arms route so it looks like the limbs of a turtle or a fish for you. They look up. It looks like a perfect little dumpling. Just floating a beautiful little piece of bow piece of dimsum just a beautiful piece of fried pork. You could set something like A seal no like a pudgy seal. I had to make it an asian. I have no but you do. Look like a seal. Thank you know but in a good one. yeah anyway. i probably don't look like the humans like a regular norman. Clean shape i. I do like a turtle they think you're a turtle. Yeah yeah so. I'm out there like this. They think you're what they see right. And i i face scare right. And then they're like nah so one shark went up and then quinta i went to the service we call it onto the boat and we tried to climb on the boat. But did it come near you near you. Wipe our legs waiting for you to slip so this time. When they went. I was like no now. You're not doing it and you weren't scared at all where rudy. I was kind of scared. But when i got i just why were you scared. Perfect way you were a little bit scared when you first got any. Yeah you're down. When i got in the water and i saw them. I just didn't care anymore. You just didn't feel threatened. Wow this is true. Is this true. This is stupid. I'm being a dumb guy but is it true that they don't allow you to go in. If you're on your period did they ask him. If you're on your period no. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter why blood blood and water to blow. No no but they can just smell any leakage of blood this so if i have my nails seriously. There's blood in the water. They can smell. They can smell blood from miles away. Like blood farts like by far the ocean of blood guys can't go in. That's their rules. They said people with periods blood fart guys and if you got what it was because i was do blood in the water. Well that's bobble. Go red bubble in the ocean. You're swimming and it's bobble and the sharks go yama onto the bob blood far back to. I wanna go back to the. Yeah and time you done. I was going to go away from new guy. We're not making fun of them right. So he's how old is e twenty twenty one tiny tiny. He was there with his family. He's from san diego his so we go gills. She was go swim right because she said that he was cute. And yes diego. She thinks you're cute wakeup up. Obviously she thinks diego right get ahead. The co star of a very popular podcast. No the most popular the most popular party most popular. Let's equipped to music back in the late. Sixty s we were mamas and papas. Bg's were the bg bg's right as she's were jewelry star chef. She's maurice gibbs one hundred percent so who who am. I your berbera. i'm very. You've you've got gotta be buried and you're the one with the fucked up fucked up fast fantasy so you're maurice right so we're the bg's Anyway was too shy to do it. We kept pushing her well. The pushing her is not gonna make her go do it but her sister came up who sister go sister. Diego sister yemen l. Today giggles sister was twenty three. Yeah a little bit older a little bit more confident. She comes over and she got. My brother said that you were famous. I just don't know who the fuck you are. Who little 'cau- yeah my liked it though. Yes mm-hmm i liked it. I wanted to know who are the first reaction. I wanted to go august face that good good. That was confident. Good yeah so she says. My brother says you're famous. I don't know who you are and you say yeah bitch. I'm no i go. You have to play humbles up a lot of people do this whole thing so cute cult thing so then diego comes out of the water looking like a snack office well Looking like i don't know here comes Those two words. Yeah okay so it was yego not devan. All right comes up and the exchange information right. Are you embarrassed right now. I'm being genuine when i say this. How does this go in your generation. Now when you say is it right away like let me get your number or is it like. Let me get your instagram. How does that work instagram yet. Graham see that's so funny. Graham like put our generation when it was it was always like. Can i have your. You'd have to ask the girl for her number your home number right. Can i have your home. Have your home phone. Did you never get them at home. Either right you do recall twenty times a day. This is what happened literally answer. Hello hang up hang up a medium. I was so scared it. I always wanted like answering machine. I loved answering machine. And i would leave a message. I girl yeah and then i wouldn't leave the house for three days just waiting for the phone call. Does this than you know. Post maids or anything like that ryo sitting there. I'm not going to eat food for a day and a half to go to know the route because you don't want to miss the call campus so you just staring at the phone for like twenty four hours. That's that's who has they'll never know that feeling of like when you leave a message. So i called a girl and her mom answered than i could handle it right but if the dad answered or the hang the brother oh my god throw the fucking phone would up. I'm like fuck this. I would hang up immediately because the brothers already hated you. They fucking hated you so you weren't gonna be like. Hey man what's up. 'cause they're like why did people want. What do people do when they were like late for work. You're in the car riot. Who just allowed to be late ensure within new show up and you'd go sorry i was late. There was an accident and because they couldn't check it on social media. They were like oh. There must have been an accident. 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So he gets your graham back to diego or favorite does so he gets your instagram. And you go hit me up on the graham. And i'll talk to you later. And then he goes away chatting a little bit. He asked if. I was related to the bobby and you said yes. And that's what else. We're not yeah but for this at all. But in in circumstances some circuit use that. Of course i didn't other circumstances you don't like where restaurant i'll go. That's my daughter and she'll go no he's not not blood related. See that allowed. I don't know he just happened to live with like goes into an explanation. But when it comes to fucking diego you go. Yeah we're related. I get it. I totally get it. You gotta use it to your advantage. You would do the exact same thing anyway. Even doing messages back and forth you. Emp instagram no. No phone number exchange yet. Just the right. Does it ever go to phone number or no. I don't know he doesn't know to do it. That's what we're going to. This is the first time dealing with a boy like this kinda woo. Yeah he was in san diego. So i was telling you to to just go. Here's something rudy doesn't know we've hacked your phone. We're going to bring up. Bring up the dm's pete. We have them right here. We'd like to read them out loud. Who what she has to do is take a risk and go at least. Hey if you're ever in la let's hang out something like that or invite him up to la. Yeah yeah why. don't you invite him up. Come up here and it's such a movie or have dinner on a movie. would you do that. No doesn't you do this and this would like really show me if you think your blood related and we're really close. Yeah there that means trust and there's a pond and i have and it would really show me a lot if you just give me your instagram right now. No i guess there's no trust no trust and just just listen and we. Won't i promise you we won't send it until we get your okay Message let's do it. Just do i promise you. I promise you i won't send it. This is for the show. And if i send it how about this if i do send it without your approval we keep mama l. gay. Oh my god now you now. She wants you to send it. Yeah yeah so throw the. Dm over there and we're not gonna be able to put a show the fan so you have to dictate everything's we can't show l. dictate. Yeah we don't start deleting stuff now. I all go hand in the phone. Yeah give me the phone. This is great. This is a breakthrough moment for you guys. I know bring all year all right. Slow down you don't want to be a parent the fucking thing. When are you not in pajamas by. I know it's where some adult clothes so we need to buy. Some clothes would run thing that makes me wanna vomit already. You want me to do it. So it's less harmful for. She knows i'm not going to them. I just say you've just said georgia's the best. What what does that even mean. So you're lying i pass. He's not even close to being the us middle. He's fine he's okay he's fine. He's normal georges. The best type anything. Just say this right now and time out real fast. We're georgia's sixteen thousand followers. I wanna i wanna say this for my fans right fancy. I went to lunch today. Georgia sixteen thousand fancy has fifteen point nine about to pass george on instagram. And you know how mad georgia great please follow football. And we'll put it right down here. It's fancy be period. One fancy period. One please follow fancy we love. I do it so this is the kind of playing a game. Just let me finish all this out. If if bob that we're not so i just want at twelve fifty two today right. Pm pm post meridian. He goes how does it feel like to be back in. La how does it feel like to be back in her right. No response from her. Let's hear what it sounds like from a spaniard. what does it. Let's hear how he would say. Go ahead fans. How does it feel to be back in. La rudy right. Okay no response from our cold. So now he's kind of waiting around. He's like no response so he gives another thing. Uh-huh diego diego actually. How long have you been in la for. No let's advance. How long have you been in life for. Sounds desperate so desperate so desperate right so and then you have responded about why not no one onto you really blowing up your spot. So let's respond then your way by the way we're not making fun of diego or your changing. If it was very private we would never talk about on the show. That being said we're showing diego live on his show. How rude really responding rule that is yet. So rousseau rude. Let's respond bob. How long have you been in la. How about like You know for a while. But i haven't really met anyone quite like you anyway. Make make a joke. I make a joke. I like The boat sunk after. I got over here. So i can wait. How actually how. How long have you been Like say like eighty sons or something like that. I get a really lame son now. How long how long have you been in la almost there years three years but it feels like no. Don't say three three years is what three sixty five times three is. Say a over. A thousand suns over a thousand 's over a thousand suns. Let's see if he gets that over. A thousand suns because in the philippines. That's how they refer to a day now. Do i have my permission to yeah to send us over. One thousand four thousand do damage control. I sent a since he did to agree. I agree i agree. I think it should be for tax debt. And because now and you say now you're gonna answer the first and the first question was what can i think you did a thousand. I wanted to do my son. Yosano hewlett heller rip on that feeds. Btw btw's o. son no no. No no no he. W what's btw by the way by the way bt btw you looked hella ra by the way you looked. Hella ribble looked ripped on w. beach derived on the beach. And then what's another good price Beach because cuts costs you. H it's like a bra. It's like new cake. h rip. Read it by the way you look. Hella rip on the beach cur. Can i send him. Yeah yes they're not. She's having fun volley by the way i sent it. If this this doesn't mean i'm keeping fucking the dog because it sending it if you mean if you disapprove. Did too he goes. How does it feel to be back in. La space actually. How long have you been in. La for over a thousand suns pilot. We looked really never. He's never respond to that shit. Shit the umbrella when does air. Let's give it a rudy by the way. Is this guy did. What does this air. The second monday the second right second thing. Yeah all right august second. What's what's wrong. What was there was. Something was a problem but no. Here's what she's going to do now though. Is this message no no. It's it was already broken. It's all over there so the third message she going to send the third message. She's gonna go. That was just those last two messages with from andrew. Santino bob let him let let's see if he can play with it like let's see if he has fun. Yeah b- because let's sit for a second. Yeah right because you could do that. Third message even if he doesn't respond he thinks it's weird three hours from now and then he'll be like oh keep the dm open to see if he's seen it and just let us know if any time during the way we it shows you that you can see it. It says seen yeah. I know because when i text you it says read and then you pretend like you didn't know and i was like i saw you read it. I saw you read it i think. A weasel yeah. No no no. Let's be real. We'll take a vote. Let's take a studio ra. We'll come in here. They can do it from where they see their faces. All right coming in here. I'm have to turn the sound. It's hot in here are you. Are you warm now. You were called all right okay. Well we're not gonna be able to see them on camera but you just wanna be. I wanna see their faces right. All right get in european fans. I'm pete i'm looking at right now but and before you even asked her i have to say i have to say it's been a pleasure working with he called you weasel right away. Okay you can leave. No no no no. Let him stay. Let him stay. No he already said a thing. Let him stay. This is a real confession. I wanna hear the real deal holyfield. You know it's been a pleasure working with you. You show up here on time. You do a really good job and you know. Here's another thing that you do. Is you have a trustworthy kind of energy about you. Like i feel safe. I feel like Rudy say we're all safe in your in your presence and i just think that I'd really like to work with you for the rest of my life. My weasel got caught up in it anyway. Thank you know from figure. Dismiss thank you gave there right. Yeah you know. I think that The the exchange we do back and forth and the energies exchange. It's like two people to souls. That's been doing that for eternity. It really does feel okay all right. It's like we were sort of your your my yang and i'm your yang. You know we're more. Yeah you are more of a young. I guess you have to say that. I've always thought i was much younger. Been more guinea. You've been much more. You're more yang than anyone i've ever met. But here's the thing. He's super well. He's remarkably few more yang than i am. I have to being. I gotta tell you. Oughta gang both yang's okay. Yeah yeah and that is why. I think that since i feel like we've been doing this attorney our souls and that it's two pieces part as say and I feel like. I've known you forever. And i just really think that i feel comfortable with you as well more than that fat piece of shit. That was just in here. You ask them come on the buffalo with kids here. Sorry the question ask him. Do you think i'm always will come. I don't really know the meeting of. Oh that's great. He's using the cop out of second language really really smart. You let them go on that. You're dismissed good luck thank you yeah i think i have we not a weasel. Do you have no because i've done stuff. You have weasel tendencies for sure. I did that at the store. Wants and what. I did a big weasley thing. What did you do. So i was at the store and we had this tie manager. Never met him and he was he was kirk. What do you mean the guy that ended up in that restaurant down in santa. Monica didn't open up a thai place down in santa monica tests on him. That was Tony tony yeah okay. So kirk was this like he was in the military. So if you should up a minute let your fired. I love it. You know if you went over your time. Never spot again. Wow like he was militant legit legit. I like it but nobody like working with them because he was just too much. Yeah everyone hated him. And so but that was a time. When i wasn't getting any spots because the talent coordinator didn't like me who i can tell you fine any no way before. Tommy no just feeling twenty so so in. Everyone hated kirk. But kirk. Because i was asian crooked walkout me gall hey by the time he loved you i go. You put me up there. I do offer you anything. Only love drave. So you'd put me up enrage everybody why you weren't good enough yet now. Okay but it's i deserve the spots. You're not really Came in that's fine. Every time someone was late by become abi it. You want to go on those online. That's privilege pr agent privilege right. So then eleanor in bunt the whole staff. Even the comics all wrote a petition. No to get kirk fired because you were getting now. No because he's like they just hated. Hated them okay. But when i caught window petition And went to the top. Oh you went to mitzi holy shit and polly the whole family. Oh wow you're on your way around who rat these in subordinates. Oh my god. What were you reading unemp- about i was warning them about this about this list of this people deciding and then i was like i was also a great guy. You you are a little survivor you are. I'm trying to survive iraq approach but then everyone found out that i did that and then everyone for years hated me would say hi to. Who had you the most. Eleanor does she. does she hate you now. Now we love each other but she did a deep love. Now what did she do. You think what what got her over the hump like what made her. Stop hating you. I don't know what happened about the so that happened over twenty years ago along route so she didn't talk to me for twenty years holy shit in fact when i saw her in the hallway. I'd have to go around. Because she could beat the shit out of your shit her energy. I beat the shit out of you. Maybe three years ago there was a party like a christmas party or in. I was downstairs with the podcast. Room was at the comedy store. Yeah and a bunch of people were done. i walk into. I didn't know was there. And then there's so many people that are just kinda got stuck near. I couldn't get out. And then i turn around and eleanor's right here. Perfect right as she looks at me. And i look at her. Do you want to do my podcast ago. Yeah it was all gone. No we had to do it at the on. The hashed out on the podcasts. We should out but it was cathartic it was great. That's good great. But you know i have done a lot of weasley things in my life. Only on of survival right. It's fight or flight and you're gonna you're fighting. Yeah you don't have a choice. And i'm a generally only like that when it comes to my career. Yeah that is true. Agree with you on that. Please post this is my favorite thing in the whole world. Awesome this summer outdoor person that likes to get adventures under your belt. You gotta use bespoke post because their lineup of essentials in their box of awesome collection for guys is guaranteed to upgrade. Your lies guys. 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I've actually been my agents weasel than lied about a thing that they approve that i got in trouble for when i can't tell the i can't i know it's hard but there's a lot of incidences but what they did was weasel so what i did was read them all out. I showed the emails. Yeah because they denied it though. We never said that. That was okay for him to do yoyo. Sen- sense and i sent all the email. Yeah they all approved it. Yeah yeah 'cause they were trying to agents are just all they do is go. We never said to. We didn't say you could do. We didn't do that. Yeah yeah you did. I said i can't tell the story. It's it's not fun. But i know i i do. I'll do it to protect you do it. If they're backing you know corner. Don't have a choice. Yeah you didn't have a choice if you didn't have a choice. Why did you paint your nails by the way. Show the audience so we'll hold it up to the camera. They can actually see it so the girls so the girls were. We're going to hawaii. And they you know how they do their girly things and they go around. The table felt left out. No the all the stickers and stuff right and they were like Tito bobby nails and i go. Why because we're going to hawaii okay. That's pretty much it. Did you want him to paint his nails. You did after all these time. After all these years you still can't put the mic near face. It's almost it's insane. It's at this point. It's almost like scary. So did you ask him to push for it. I think i'd told you said he had to do it. Did you paint them to do it. He did why. Don't you have the girls who are looking at much better of a job they would have done. That's and scratch and chipman have another thing. I want to hash out with her. I'll go ahead. is this new guy. Diego let's check in with yego. Did he welcome back to check it. Let's have fancy say checking in with the go ahead go check and then with the eagle anything nothing damn this you know what it is though he probably sees that you've dm but he doesn't wanna open it because he wants to give it time. Well i have. I think let me see if he befriended my friend requires because i could also do a second thing. So yeah yeah so. Let's do this away you requested. His friendship smooth yes. So let's go to his. His is his profile. Private is that right Yeah he rented it. So i can now message. Okay so sabra sopra. Yes the shock. Give this give the shah. H bre shop on the shock. Shock shock mulji thumbs up. It's not the same way better. Shocker is brought. And i can't find it. Oh there it is. Right under the hams. Yeah sabra sabra. Can i see a picture. This guy looks like the. He doesn't have any photos of him. Well let me see. That's his dad. Just give me the phones. No there's no. I'm gonna lung looking. That's his mom. Sister weiqing apply what he looks like those people there we go. That's him because it out you. Oh he good looking. Yeah yeah he's a good looking guy wow. Da eggs spaghetti. O's i think this were off to A little romance. Sd let me. Can i finish this message. Or what brought yes opera bras all. We need to say to this guy really well. Subra says a lot. Sabra sabra all right. So you could be trying to fight him. You can try to hang out bre. Sabra sent right and if you re messages back now be good so this was a one time love story in hawaii. No there was another one right. Jesus another one right. No got a lot of hawaii lovers. There's asked for surfing instructions. Oh it was nothing but you liked him. Yeah it was cute. Yeah but did you get the number the dm now. My aunt got his number. Two filipinos are aggressive. I i know which we just need to get open up a bit. you know. She's got. I think shutting if you look back on the episodes that we started the show. You've definitely changed your vibe. You've definitely got more open more. You're getting more confident confident. Yeah you know. Like look bobby in the i right now. Let's see your confidence level. Tell him to go fuck himself. Look right in the. I'd say go fuck yourself do it. Go fuck yourself. That was so believable. Love it man. This is good. I like this new route. Mortimore look them in the say. You're a fat piece of shit Move the mike down so the camera can see below your mouth there. You go look. I'm right knee. I do it arafat piece of shit. How do any for another look looking right now and say you're not my blood and i don't respect you at all. You're not my blood in. I don't respect you at all. it looks over. he'll says it No one we'll talk Say look. I can't wait. I can't wait till anti-colonial leaves you. I can't wait till ethical leaves. You would hurts that one stong. He's getting hit a little bit fucked. Wow those go to one now. Say i'm sorry. I mean none of sorry to robbie antonin any of it. I don't believe that was the laws that last part was alive by all the other stuff was truism. Wait a minute wait a minute look them in the and say i didn't mean any of that i didn't mean any of the inflection. You meant a lot. That's wow you but you know what What did you smell in the car ride from the airport home all far farts. That's what you get you get. That's you're lunacy that today all farts right so yesterday i did preemptive fortune. Your face you loaded up. Yeah they were nasty. Play that clip. Pete. what is that really fun. Is this guy shaking up his belly. Yeah skies would you go out with this guy. Yes this guy. Dateable diego so i want. Ask you if you've seen this show and this clip is from the show it's called Do this first There's a show called sexy beast. You know what that is. I saw the movie but not the us. So it's a dating show on net flicks. Yeah and you get dressed up like a furry. Yeah and you go on a date to see if you fall in love and then if you get through like love is blind and all the shows then you get to take off the makeup and everything but they have to go on a date and look. that's hilarious. Can you and i do this on syria. We can hire a professional makeup. That love to do to make you an i go out when we go do our date day. Who though you and me are going out on a date okay. let's do. I wanna do a first date with you. Yeah and look like looking good good. Is it all guys or no no. There's there's that was that other. That was a woman. There looked and they go out on dates. Like it's insane. I can't wait to see joe. Just saw the clip today. Look good the makeup. It's so good at that boone. Look that mazing. But it's not as if the shoot this in one day. No it takes forever six months so every morning she gets. This person gets a four. Am wakeup call to do three hours as you make no. That's six hours up there. It's insane it's insane. There's i love dating show. Have you seen this show. Do you know about the no show that clip show that clip of the one from the one show that clip from the old dating show. The old the the first kiss show. I'm hoping that he's a really great kisser. Hersher sure because. I really have tried everything with dating dated online. I hosted singles events. I've approached strangers like a first kiss show kissing the moment you see them. Maybe this'll be the magic and looking for think. I am definitely more confident this time. Because i've already had that i kissed out of the way i think my strategy is just go for the kiss. Maybe i'll be able to like slip tongue. And then from there things take on. Maybe she's my first girlfriend. Maybe season first girlfriend right walking towards her ready to make that move. How's it going good josh. Courtesy kiss sure. Didn't go back to just because our on the so uncomfortable but something happened. He i mean he got so scared. You hear when he when he walks in audibly goes. Listen good drink. He's smiling murder smiling. He yeah how does she feel threatened to turn around. Just walk away. Yeah go ahead or say no no. Go sure okay. We had the holder show. I feel so fucking bad for her. I feel so bad for her because she she said yes. You can kiss me. Imagine the amount of rejection she feels. She's way prettier than this guy. And she's like i guess you. Can i talk you against it. But then he holds her he hits it and then hugged. Call putin com i. Ib this dude. I love you know guys like this. She just be like. I'm a monk among now. Just go out into the mountains. Monks yup and and make the thing right gung every day. I just go to sleep like the incense and candles candles right a routine at you. Blow everything out right. Do more this. Yeah go to sleep and then just guy you got no you. Don't think monks jerk off the mypillow. Monkey allowed to masturbate. Are monks allowed to masturbate google. That wouldn't you think you'd have to. You're not allowed to see people right. It's like priests priests can have. They can't have sex. Monks allowed to masturbate. Buddhist monks are forbidden from any sexual activity including masturbation and watching porn strictly enforced. How would they know will. You'd have to go in the forest. Imagine that's what we did when we were kids. Yeah we'd go jerk off in the woods. Yeah you can do it at home. You get caught if you had brothers and sisters you were going to get caught other elias. Where are you going to the woods for a moment. That gets a dead giveaway. Why because you have to be specific we keep talking to me. I'm burning story so elias. Gimme among canea What's a monk name. But he's buddhism albright. I'll make it right brother tongo Where are you going till the woods to meditate. We have a temple over here where everyone else is. Meditating i understand but the lord is closer to me with the trees since rudas. We don't believe in a lord you got to be so so run their again. I ask i ask ask why who get. Because i want to be one with your jerky. Forget okay. i'm not there. You got to be there this muko. It says every you know go tricking pretty weird conversation with fucking excuse. Jersey covered up. He comes dixie. Togo togo to the words to meditate love. Sorry day every day. I come back and i truly have semen on my on. My road asked me what it is. I come back woods clear. Go togo robe. All of this must be up from one of the trees. Tricep from one of the trees i was rubbing against thank you for telling me i. Now tell me. It's just now tell me. It's just that babies left me. Tell me it's clearly just true. South from one of the other togo. It's obviously jisr your got. How would you cover up. How could you even do it. I brother moghul why. Why are you leaving the temple. Brother togo for asking where you going. I just really like our. I would say anything to get away from not answering the question right right. Just keep skirts brother moghul. Why are you leaving the the mushroom stew. We had this morning a little. Aw shit in the woods yes all right system all right. That's so funny by the way impossible. You know this is a lie. You know bobby. It's an it's natural. It's ornate it's in your body it's a part of your your being it's like when they say like You can't repress sexualization. No here's the thing is. Is that when you go to essay meetings or you go to a place like i went to a couple of years ago and sex and pornography and sexism addiction and substance abuse. Yeah i've talked to friends of mine and i go. Did you masturbate ego. we're allowed to mexico masturbate. But we don't think of anything or we don't look at porn. What do you do them. They're just basically unloading just getting. I think that if you didn't masturbate for six or six months or or or get it out of your body. I think that a coupla tugs and it's out it's out about it like this though. This is insane. I is forty seven days without jerking off without jack eating or sexual contact. Nothing forty seven days. When did you do this in wife. I did it with my friend. Charlie about nine years ago with my friend charlotte on the forty seven like fucking each other. He he lasted seven months. Heated had no sexual kyle. I lasted forty seven days. And i just couldn't do it but wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on no sexual contact with somebody or is it no ejaculation. I could kiss could kiss or those little. Those things will always lead to know schatzer. You're saying you wouldn't know kissing no touch another. Wow holy shit. Seven months No physical interaction people do for years. Steve did for years years no sexual interaction or years. Why because his sponsor said that lets you know. Set a time and he goes. I'll deal year and the year went and did another year. Because you sexual sexual six and then you got a girlfriend. Yeah wife now wife and now he folks her but my point is is that you know. It's doable you went forty seven days her so hard. How many years ago. Ten years ago. Today bobby right now today. Twenty twenty one. How long could you go without sexual release if it was a competition between you and i Forever forever do you wanna do it. Yeah you really do you know how. How will i know that you're lying or not. But we're gonna livestream each other twenty four seven pete's going to follow you and andreas. We'll follow me around with a camera in our beds with honestly let's it's impossible. It's not impossible. We can do it if we wrote a contract and then if you just set in the senate if you said to me. This is the seinfeld episode. It's four days from now. Do i did it down to okay. Cool i want. That's it's just. I don't i what i'm telling you. I don't think you can last like you think you can last lasted forty seven days. I can do it years ago. What's the different those forty times change. No i can do one last time. You jerked off two nights ago. Okay but my libido is much lower. I know you're older now. Yeah so it's like. I can do it. You really do. Yeah i could be you know. That's only because you think because you wanna beat me. That's an idea. That's just a thing because you're in your brain you're like i just need to beat him so you'll just hurt yourself. I don't think i will be heard either. I think it'd be good. What are you gonna tell delilah. But she's like. I'm feeling i'm feeling like i'm gonna tell her tonight. I tell her that. I go me and android doing this thing. Abstinence thing right And we didn't see how long we can go and she okay. Fine my health. Okay will you tell your girl. Yes let's do it so you guys hit her to here. I we're going to do it. We can hold out all right. I'm gonna jerk off the moment. I get home now. I'm gonna hold it out. They go to new york tuesday. That's good the longer you're out of town. Oh no that's that's bad because that's hotels are jerk off friendly surkov city. The moment i landed a new city for comedy jerking off. And you a jerk. What else am i doing there. Yeah i poop i'd take a big chug water. I like a load on like the furniture of like the fucking the wall amp shea lab sheets everything everything everything because it's like Freedom is freedom. it's marking out territory here fairmont. That's that's fine. You don't wanna hear any of this stuff do you know. Tell me if diego hit you back already. Well yeah he did didn't he. Did he see it. But did you ever see. Did you ever Stay at the condo at the lawyer. Comedy store yep that condo though is fascinating because the amount of semen that's been in that case no it's more seemingly you would know because i'll tell you why because i stayed there once with. Brian proudly. I don't even know that. You don't know and ryan radley's were nineteen. Eighties gave the first gay canadians way before. Jesus doer if these were the first gay comedians and they were all men. And i was a young kid right and i was staying at the condo with them and late night they go. Hey cad you any hear a story. And i go. I was scared. You know think i go. I like story. And he goes in nineteen seventy nine or seventy eight. Brian was seventy or something right. I think we're seventy eight because you know we went to. We were staying in this condo and went to this gay club and we just got so drunk. We just announced. I just stood up and announced. Rg at the condo fell day. We all right just eighty guys ben. The comedy store conduct. We did it. Eighty men train right to kill rock and we would just. Sometimes we have to unload the steam take out the take the steam now right now i'll over at a. Apparently there was a calm like it was just like rainfall like it was a storm a popcorn ceiling. An umbrella just walked through right and so once. They told me that story and ask anybody else. I've never stayed in hotel hotel. I always ask for a fucking hotel. That place sleep. I have nothing against other people's come sure you do just want it in my mouth or my skin or anywhere near me. I don't want to but if there was. Let's say you're standing there puddle. Comma here you'll be okay with it. I would not everyone. Yeah that would be immediately. Go your who. Who did this. P p we go. Well how how could. That's what's so cool about the gay community. that's totally kosher. You can walk into a club. Yeah in the today. Orgy back at our place. People would go. You can't be at a bar and be like orgy back. In our place now imprisoned you'd be imprisoned immediately or the cops are fucking. I mean there is a thing where i've thought about a wish. I was gay Because it's just so should be all my little any elision you would get tossed right around with just be they would call me the whole the whole the holes here holes upstairs come in my asshole so bad just walking like this. Come on the show. What did they say. When i show the big angry top as a Why would gain weight. I will bear here. Big red guy. I would gain like one hundred and fifty pounds but we would faulk so much so much so much easier. I mean come on. we'd go. I would go down santa monica. I've said this before on here when just used to take us out to those clubs. Yeah oh my god i could. I get laid by so many of those dudes. I felt so confident was great and they'd find out that the straightened like fuck outta here. Yeah but it was hot. It was in the eighties. Got thing yeah you would have gotten. Hov no that's all. i'm saying. Yeah you would've gotten hiv for sure because you spend the whole you just laid there their people to just come run trains on ya. Yeah and they let you up sometime. I wouldn't even care it'd be like sleeping literally that'd be sleeping people just just unloading ooh wake up go. Hey charlie go back to sleep. I saw a dude. I'll just say this. I saw dad. Fan once on In new york he was doing What's his name show on comedy central. It's what's that guy's name The older guy. He's kind of like jimmy shubert but new york colin quinn. Yeah to colin quinn. Had that show on comedy central one of the greatest shows of all right so dan was on it right right when he won last comic standing and the voss patrice o'neal oh my god and they ripped him apart a firing squad yeah they rip apart to the point where i felt bad for him for that and patricia. Make an asian jokes. I'm sure right. So bring up that clip if you can find you. When i saw that i went. That's not going to be me right you. I'm going to fight them back. And i'm going to survive and i'm gonna win right so that's why i have. The style that i do is because i just don't want to be a victim. Do tough crowd with colin quinn. With dad fan. Yeah dat van. It's brutal to if you see daylight him on fire. It's well patrice was folk. You can see it even. It's so sad dat dat dat dat fan dat dat fan boy. Yeah that's it right the first one. You've got to be tough copper. Choose o.'neil dan rich voss. How long does it sixteen wheel. Scroll through and they'll edit it. Let's see some of it folks that i think he's just moved trying to move a war around. He's like okay. We're just gonna move it over to iraq now. I mean that doesn't do anything. I mean it's like in vietnam it's like what are they gonna. Okay now what was going to be here. We're gonna move it over to cambodia. What what what. What would your mother say about this space had career. You always play neutral. Paul potts live comedy. Show hiding behind a tree them racist and a tunnel. Now dad fan one. Who is complaining about this. Was that asians or other people. The people that pay them come on. He knew he needed one. I spent an hour and a half the word signing autographs and ninety percent asian students. We're we're in line so don't you think ethnic accent is is in comedy about hiking or whatever they call off accentuate differences. Yeah i mean. It's it's the culture that i grew up in my family has accent. Black comics make their own culture or culture. Okay rituals and do some jewish jokes right do maybe one i. I usually my life You know i talked about my vietnamese mother alive if all of a sudden okay this guy. He's crazy this is what we do. We're basing it on the air. I mean the. Stereotypes are part of headphones. I'm just saying i read. That are complaining by the thing that they referred to him and articles and comic. And i was really now i was saying is that is five. Fourteen in deadpan. Got one more minute left on his pain. So i think that he would just have like vietnamese. That's right in the middle of the but truce was ruth show. Yeah but. I'm just saying that. When i did get opening anthony with portrays he can do that with me because you were just became a wilder. Yeah i i saw that. I'm never going to be him. Ha no yeah you gonna fight back faulk you know you gotta fight back fight back that. Yeah you know what i mean. It's sad but i mean he knows better. That's the lion's den. That show was so hard to do it new. You shouldn't yell it unless you if you don't come in with wayne with shit deadpool you gotta have and just be like i'm here and cut them all up and then what happens is when you start making fun of them and combating them. They just stopped doing it. Well or it becomes part of the rhetoric of that. We all are shitting on each other. We you and i do on our show. We make fun of each other. Yeah that's because we love each other with that disarms all the chaos you just shit on each other. Yeah but if you're not willing to have the get shit on stuff then you're in trouble yet and i just think that instead of focusing on a as as a message to asian performers i do it is that i don't focus more on that being representing my my ethnicity. I focus on being better than all the other people right right. I don't when i'm at the store people go. I've heard people while you're on the line. Because you're the asian got no. I believe i'm on the lineup nausea. Nothing i'm good. It's just that nobody you can't say like you know rogan goes up or anybody else goes up right that i didn't do as good european right and i don't wanna be up there just because of my color of my skin who you're not. I know i know that right. I feel that you're saying that exists. And yes i'm just saying that like you know asian performers or whoever. You know we've tiger. Bill is not considered an asian show. I know it's not apparently to them. Who was that a credible source. I mean it was only a new york times. But it's this this. Yeah do top. Asian podcasts top asian. This is what are we doing here. What are you trying to do. I want i want to try. Not on their sees girl through all the way to keep going down to the right up at the top that bar up there pico. All the way to the right all the way. Now click on that arrow. No show with. George can be consideration right top. Mary do nason baby nothing. But how about this. I've got the fixed top asian comedy. Podcasts there it is top asian comedy podcasts. Now it'll be there no doubt same list. Same list Keep on those. Is there any way to do this. So it's not there see look at it also. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something Does tiger billy do better than these. We are yeah for sure. All of them right. Yeah for sure to while we on it because this is we're not asian. No this is being promoted by something. That's being promoted by a machine. Goat top comedy podcasts. Would we be on it. Maybe i don't know but it's comedy pocket on who promote this thing. Yeah nas comedy podcasts. Scenario where are we there. No. we're not on their. You know no nope. Nope nope doboy is on there. No nope nope nope. Nope we're not on there. That's it now. do you feel bad. No because that's a machine. Now that's a machine. I don't know who. I don't know how that gets fucking arrange by. What is this made by what. What's the article. Who's by good housekeeping. This by fucking good housekeeping. They arrange that. What does that even fucking mean. Yeah good housekeeping. Yeah what the fuck is that. No i don't care we dude. I know how much are fans love and appreciate us. I love and appreciate them. That's what i care. I don't care a fucking article in good housekeeping. Doesn't mean anything to me. Aren't you happy about the fans rudy. Now you're getting boyfriends from it. Let's check in with diego. Andre it. Let's check in with the ago. Come on please said he looked texas or sets on back. Come on come on. Come on nothing tuned while all right. So how about this bobby to end this diego thing. I want her now to right. You can write enough bobby. The right no response quite. Did he respond. you know. okay so i want. I want her to write no response. Question mark fuck you. How cool would that be. No response fuck. You know because he texted her and respond for six hours six hours. Yeah give them six hours at the sixth hour this evening. Right no response. Fuck you portugal. We love you diego wherever you are you. Beautiful the name of that racist snack coquito. All right bob. Thank you for being a bad friend. Twenty dollars off your buffy comforter when you visit. That's twenty dollars off your buffy comforter when you visit by add friends. That's twenty dollars off your buffy comforter when you visit buffy dot co and enter the code buffy.

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128 Brandon Black as Featured on Funny AF

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128 Brandon Black as Featured on Funny AF

"She's like wow. This is crazy. I had in a lot. Like i want to get back into. Stand up and as guide to send me a sign in your mind. My big black sign. I'm like okay cool. Oh i'm big black sign. But she's like five one. I'm like six two but yeah we exchanged information can touch man and we ended up doing some shows or something. If you're looking for a high brow fancy smart regal podcast with hosts that love to talk about horseriding badminton and trips to the vineyard. You're in the wrong place. This gives amigos. If you're for drinking random nonsense stunts shenanigans and balls out craziness hit the jackpot is is amigos. Pc and this is scott and mark. Welcome to the a our guest brandon. Black comedian in los angeles We noticed we started. I'm homework on you own. We started communicate in apologize about the going back and forth and rescheduling and things like that doing some and we noticed that there. I don't know if this was you or if this was someone else but about a decade ago. Oh you american maybe or going on alternate you mean that definitely was not me man. I know the blackout. This would have been on american idol. That is. I want to be a singer back in the day. Oh you did not have never developed after. Take you to church on sunday to sing gospels to sing the were housing acquire for like two weeks. I dropped out everybody looking obama. I'm learning the songs i was like. Yeah it's time for mean stuff. Haven't been mashing church players. That was my day goodell in the church. Nice so the rent a if it's yoga. Is this show so you just mentioned that. You're you're mastering the the craft of acting At the church have you dabbled in it being in los angeles. I have like three commercials but you could only see me one well short film. I got a small role in commercials. I'm just like somebody in the background. One i thought i was on have like nice screen time and the internet's kind of messing up. Sorry all no no. It's probably not probably are yours. It's always our fault easy to customer may. Have you know what. I got eighteen man. Okay it is your internet. That's here either. Cell service through theater. Miss this i have had that. Oh you never know that. And i heated at why passion liking walk into walmart. Which i mean. Washington warmer is the greatest wolf. The roofs man. It's hard to get limit their do when i had verizon no problem oh maybe i'll give you that you know money money i have. Is it ever says oh boy switched to. At and t. verizon is the same. now that's true. Yeah he needs to call those people. The network is overweight. Now exactly are brand so tell us a little bit about what you've been up to hug your comedy than going with the cova world felt a little bit about You know what. Comedy and kobe has been pretty. Weird is been at a standstill. When things i hit. I did a couple online shows which were It was basically like. I was looking at myself practice my material because i couldn't hear anybody laugh but i'm are. They really laughing. you know. Want wanna comment by john job. I'm like really funny really thought i do like four of those and i was like you know. Would you think i'm gonna do another. One just is not the same. You don't have that energy demand chilling pretty much all of twenty because comedians. Pretty much they feed off the audience really need that back and forth he that you know that you're doing good or your shitty. So yeah absolutely be doing online shows man. It was like you domino entire time. So you don't like that feeling not at all man horrible feeling. Silence is very loud. So if you're not doing a whole lot of comedies that what you've been doing lately you been binge watching anything you know. We were able to get you because suzy sitcom which was awesome on our show with her. What's going on with that. I am actually. Susie is starting her own room. She has a show on the twenty fifth of this month that she dropped my name. The y'all which was appreciate advocating in my terrible intimate i'm preaching. Yeah i appreciate you suffering through the struggling. But i'm supposed to do susie. Yes on the twenty fifth should be cool. It is a live show. She said limited seating. Be about twenty people. Max in attendance. Wow do you know where it is yet or no. Is it an apartment. you said. Limited smart yeah. I only soon be her arm. They'll be performing kitchen every once in a liberal. Maria's open now she's going to actually. I feel bad because i can't remember spots of death. That's that's pretty well known. And its sponsored. She has a sponsor too at taffy. Have you guys heard of taffy. Efi taffy no sound familiar. I've heard of laffy taffy on it. Right that's what i don't like lab. You yeah she ashley educated happy tax collector ms appetizing. Oh what did that be timing but is the chicago she said makes sense. Yes she from over that area and we had her on. Es suzy's a lot of fun. And i appreciate some mail blessed several times in my life these. Oh wow key go into a little bit of detail of that or you guys been traveling together not traveling but doing shows together again of. I'm sorry for cutting you off in a you didn't so we were waiting. And then okay and i don't i have but i don't want to interrupt the feedback soothing. More times than one. She's done something because she is cannot say a fan of my company. She likes i do. She's always recommended doing he's cool. He's a cool guy and Do i wouldn't be on here with john and several other people. She's she didn't drop. My name is this. You tell you guys met no. Yeah so log in costco instacart. So i'm in costco and i'm talking to them employees or whatever a store there are frequently pretty cool and he's like oh man. How was your show man. And i'm telling me and it's totally great out another one coming up out. So she's hymie and it kinda standoff filler. Like is looking at me. But i don't really pay no mind. She's like hey you do comedy. I'll the little apprehensive. I miss some very like weird people. This way like. I talked to everybody. But it's like you might be another one so she's like you know you've been doing online. I've been doing it for a couple of years now. She's wow this is crazy. I just had a career in a lot by. I wanna get back into. Stand up and ask god to send me a sign in your mind. My big black sign. Light ok