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Chelsea To Quarterfinals of UEFA Champions League

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Chelsea To Quarterfinals of UEFA Champions League

"It's been too long for the first time. Since josie marina was second go round with chelsea chelsea fans out of the round of sixteen. I am beyond excited. This was a massive massive win for the mensa. We will get into it. We will also speak with pat nevin making a return engagement here to chelsea mike up almost one year to his debut here on the podcast and the women keep chugging along. We're gonna talk about the women's team and preview this final fa cup match before international brick mop. Wom you're listening to the official chelsea f c podcast baba's thia monaco swag chris wittingham league leaders. What those the points leaders in the league. I look i will give the neutral observer room to make fun of simoni athletico madrid and that playing sale. That you've been lamenting ever since. I've known you when you chris wittingham but let's give chelsea their proper do because this didn't seem possible problems months ago knitted did and i'm not going to kick anybody when they're down. It's just the way things were going with chelsea in franklin part towards the end. We couldn't envision them winning three zero on aggregate against the league leaders in athletico madrid. It just didn't seem possible because we'd give up too. Many chances not silva entrees christians which wouldn't have seemed like a huge miss two months ago either but the lineup. Because it wait. Where's andres christianson. You need them. It didn't actually and again. The chances are limited. I will say this is going to surprise many in our audience and probably surprise you. Because i'm the emotional one and i'm sure you might expect me. Given credit to the officials. They missed up early on as the new by his reaction. He didn't play the ball. Well too many soft touch try to yank was janika roscoe. Yeah try began. Crossbow down just outside. The box roscoe slips past it and then a little bit of tap and then rosco. Does the right thing in that situation fall down. I know many people were seizing on that. But it was really the tug their in combination. He whiffed on the past whiffed on the tug and probably should have been sent off that changes the dynamic entirely so chelsea dodge one. It would have been interesting to see how that game and aggregate take shape if chelsea and someone sent off and let it go go up. One nil your thoughts on the controversy surrounding the roscoe tug. I understand why jamie carragher at halftime thought it was a penalty. I admire the fact that as the emotional on this podcast. You thought it was a penalty. I think it was a penalty. And i know it's basically me and the referee or the only one that think that but that is so soft it is just i mean. It's like the only reason why it would be a penalty is what he's doing right. He's very clearly. I've been beat. I gotta do something just a little bit tries to go for the slightest bit of contact. You can get away with so i guess in the intent. It probably is a penalty. But i think makes the absolute most of it like. I don't think that that's what you should get sent off for and that's exactly what it would have been right. I think that's what the referee probably thinking is. If we give this penalty we have to send us believe quit too often. Are we going to send him off for that tackle and it just or that. I mean it's not even a tackle to pull the shirt and say even that much of a pull the shirt. I didn't think it was a red. I didn't think it was a penalty in my view as been quite has been pretty pitch perfect under thomas two-goal and that's really one of the only mistakes he's made under it and luckily for him and chelsea doesn't come back to bite them when you make a mistake like that and you don't apply the proper touch to a pass the keeper you leave yourself susceptible to something pretty subjective. There are other officials in world football. That blow the whistle there. Send as took off so when you judge it by that if i say we get ten officials and they make that call. I think more than half come away with saying that's a penalty to atletico madrid. And as the dov so judging by that logic i think chelsea dodged one good for them because they were the better team easily would have been shame. It came down to that. Luckily no controversy. No blog write-ups. No angry twitter accounts no eggs in my mentions chelsea especially with that second goal emerson all. He does a score. I mean and finish. Oh my god. God chelsea find themselves out of the round of sixteen finally and we were going over. The history of this is actually been a sneaky long time. Since we've been here it was up against athletico madrid. We were robbed of a dream. Final of real madrid vs josie marino. Year after he left real madrid tibo while still angry that he played in that semi final and athletico sent chelsea gun and they hadn't been able to get back to those heights. Heck they haven't been able to get to the quarter-finals here they are. It's going to be a very exciting draw by the time you hear this. You're going to be just as excited. It's just going to be around the corner. Six am eastern. I imagined we may see a couple premier league teams because there are so many of them copied primarily fan over here we might see a couple of premier league teams do battle in this round. We'll do the whole look at the lot thing but as a neutral this is a mighty impressive turnaround four thomas to chelsea. Were clearly better than at let it go madrid and i agree in that assessment. How did we get here with this manager. The players headed in them the entire time. The board made the right decision. Did they saw one hundred percent. I mean you're heading into match number thirteen under thomas to google and they've kept eleven clean sheets. They've conceded two goals. And i know it's redundant to say this every week but it is so impressive. The manner in which not only do you win games or draw matches because you don't lose them but the other team doesn't really create that many chances and again. It wasn't until the ninety second minute when the tie had basically gone a jaw eli's creates the best chance of the match. And then you have a goalkeeper. Who's done nothing. All game and produces a brilliant save. It's the manner in which that chelsea control games and as you said and as we've talked about it for months with a set of personnel that i think a lot of people think is you know top of the premier league or that you know maybe there were being replaced by other players in the squad or that there needed to be kind of a level up here. These are top level players that just needed to have a bit more of a structure in place. Thomas has given them that structure. And now you're starting to see players express themselves a bit more going forward. I think the breakthrough for team. Oh verner is coming. I think the breakthrough for key habits is coming. He's driving himself forward so much more of that. I came zero after getting the goal. Play a much better second half than he did the first so i think you're starting to see a bit more expressive nece going forward and you see standout individual performances all over the pitch. I'll let you go first in terms of the one that most stood out to you while there are so many out today and we had debates about pretty much every player in our texturing. But let's start with the main in the match because it's not sexy but i think although you could make an argument for a man of the match in this case and golo kante particularly that first half phenomenon phenomenal. What a brilliant player. He doesn't get enough credit for how wise he is for how smart he is for. How well he sees the game. Unbelievable i know he's got an unreal motor and that's what always draws you to his game. How is someone this small strong. He's so good area early. I mean these women super players that are dame your dollar that he's tough he is the embodiment of what you want your team to be as a supporter. He just keeps his head down. Does business not flashy Maybe ladle it to the right side of the field because he was wide open on that chance. I would've gone nuts for conde goal. Although emerson's scoring was hilarious pull assists by the way good for him because that game was actually not going pretty well for up to that point so good to see the confidence going. We saw in this game where the king would he. He was different player. Yes after he was quite honestly i kinda keep her that is probably cursing himself out for not saving that it wasn't an impressive finish. The past. the buildup countered the defense. It started at all. All great team was phenomenal there. You're joking can you be considered a disappointment. And your teams player of the no one's created more chances for chelsea football club ten goals and seven assists now and i don't believe those seven assists include the penalties that he's one but this chelsea side so i think team oh i want to highlight something that thank god. Cbs included it in their highlight of the goal. Because it is absolutely how this goal starts. It's a free kick here in chirpy or setting up to cross the ball and team verner puts in a sprint. That no one else in the chelsea side would put in and honestly. I don't think most players would put it in because it seems like a waste of energy but he is so fast closes down trickier and it's just the slightest bit of deflection that allows all the not travel over the chelsea defence but ended up right at the head of angola. Kante any heads down for a to start the counter. That only comes as a result of team. Verner putting in that work and then gets on. The ball lays it across the penalty area. So the hockey can finish. It finishes the move that he starts but for me so often. Creativity and that kind of thing is talked about but team. Oh verner when he doesn't score goals that's what he gives you. And that's why he continues to get thomas tickles. Trust in starting each and every match for chelsea took me to church. Chris wittingham one of the many people affiliated with chelsea better playing better under thomas two-goal but a nominal out of you. I really liked what provided in that second. Half because you saw players are relatively unselfish player. Obviously very creative. We make an argument most creative player and we haven't really seen them express himself that way. At least most creative player on this chelsea rosser right and we were trying to figure out exactly why he was in the lineup. because he's getting dispossessed allowed and he's been struggling to find himself on under thomas ducal bowl with mason mount. Here's an opportunity for king t h because if mesa amounts available. I'm not sure we see not just for position for petition. But when when you bring in set pieces and that's mount shop amounts not in there. We got to put restraints in there. I'm not sure to over. Extend the defense in that manner so kings. He has shown that he has a role here and we were struggling to find out what exactly his role would be under thomas circle and then he gets a call under him and he becomes a totally different player in that second half and he's going for goal and you realize oh we have someone that can maybe having a tenth outside the box although ruediger was feeling so we saw a couple of james's feeling himself and you wanna talk about players bombing. Ford ruediger has found another another level. Under thomas sukhal. I love watching him. The ball v going forward. I can't believe i just sat down. It's upside down world here and it's really great. to see. habits is finding himself. These players are improving. And now you start having the confidence because seen him with team. Oh you've seen him with kai you've seen him with the tired defense. If you have a player that struggle say christian pulisic and maybe this assess jump starts his season because he's been struggling to bed as he's been healthy which is almost as encouraging crate. Play on the field quite honestly because that was the chief concern. We all know. The talent player has within. He's shown it at the very top level so if everyone else's finding their form you start now having the confidence said it's only a matter of time before pulisic's coming like you were saying it's only a matter of time before team. Oh scores goals. We'll set getting slightly frustrated. Team will cutting it outside. I'm gonna ask them about it. Do you think i can coach. Willie take offense. Took side occasionally. Because if you're an opposing keeper you gotta be a little happy. Every time decides to cut it outside. Because he's he's forcing impossible angles on himself. And it's it's a. It's been a couple of weeks we've hinted at it. He'll always go outside. But when you not making defenders and giving a kings eh an absolute gift of an assist on a silver platter team do whatever you like. Cut it into a circle. I don't care what dyson teams up. They're not getting chances. We still haven't scored more than two goals under thomas bowl parts really confusing but here we are as we inch towards the international break with one cup tile to go in the fa cup chelsea seem like a team that are poised to win hardware. And that's exactly where they should be. I get angry at myself resounding surprise incursion that because that is the standard here at chelsea heartbreaking. Move of letting go. Frank import then. My lip wanted to work out with frank. But it's a callback to the way things used to be. They weren't getting results. Thomas cole's getting results and you see it's only a matter of time before he gets more guide. Continue buying stock in chelsea. Afc nope we draw. Biron talked me after that even now like my attitude. We'll be bring on because i'd utter fate. In this defense. Chris byron decks should be really compelling because i think particularly if you get that first leg away from home where you may be stealing away goal and limit buyer then all of a sudden you head back home with a chance but i think it's just it's hard to imagine over one hundred eighty minutes. Yeah chelsea to let go do lead lolita. But they didn't really put in the kind of endeavour that a team like barnard impress. Press you and make life difficult. My question kind of becomes an and we actually talked about this on an episode a couple of weeks ago is ken chelsea be more clinical on the break as they were today. The scored on the counter. Its goals on the counter-attack today against athletico madrid. So can they bring that kind of precision to really the only be two teams in my view. Are you kind of need that for manchester city and buyer munich. So if they do draw either of those two teams in this quarter-final can you bring that kind of clinic on the counter-attack. I think that's what it's going to require. But if keeping clean sheets as they are now. It is remarkable. How quickly you go from you know. Can this player plug defensive issue to now. The system is so reliable. That if it's georgina of its context its coverage of zuma beach christianson. If it's ruediger if it's tiago silva quits you'll confident. Now with whoever gets picked at the very least are going to be solid at the back. Oh paper mike. Getting scared again. He quite envision got nervous. It'd be a one one and was lucky enough that a an official swallowed is whistle and chelsea move on. And you're right. I got stop doing some being tricked by the lineup. Very clearly doesn't matter who we put out there. The system has a bright now has not been figured out by opposing teams. And it's been figured out by those on the rosser varying degrees of acumen and at varying degrees of form but the players are unified. How great was that. Cut away at well number one every cut away to needed outfit to you and i both coming to the realization at the exact same time. Well he's going to be a manager to make sense to celebration. George and mount. That was slightly dangerous. Not just because social distancing but those steps are narrow. We've been there. It doesn't matter who's out there wearing that blue shirt for chelsea right now. They're locked in there all holding the rope and they believe in you do not want to run into a team like that in the knockout rounds of the champions league. I don't care if you're buying chelsea got something cooking right now and they'd much rather have another team. Don't do a thing where you look at the table and say fourthly stephen premier league because that was a legal leaders that were just taken out. I'm not saying they had that attitude. Because this advancement in. This tournament was based on merit chelsea. Were better than at let it go much better deal better chelsea or not that same team that they were during the festive fixtures. Things are different. Now you better bring when you play chelsea appreciating this confidence that you have that you've now kind of gone from well athletic jitter a scary proposition. When you're drawn to their even scarier proposition by the time you get to the fixture to now bring on the rest of the lot and really again as i said so. You're looking at the draw right now of teams you can draw any of them at this point so it's liverpool manchester city. Psg buyer munich borussia dortmund porto and real madrid. I mean in years past if it's real madrid you're thinking well. They're just too strong. They're going to get to the final jeevan. How great would that story be to against his former team or borussia dortmund against his former team There's so much narrative that that can be on offer. His final draw obviously primarily teams in there even mailing sar. We'd better have contract mike which that says. He's not allowed to play anything. Mike i'm telling you there's some big bopper and a lot of fan base is rooting for bordeaux be careful because they've been out that they were they were better than you pay over one hundred eighty minutes. This is a great now cow round and with no protection. Nobody's everyone's a little nervous headed into that draw. It's out of barn munich and rightfully so friday morning six. Am he's can't wait for that. Let's talk to pat nevin now. We obviously consider him a friend of the pod. Because we do that. We talked to people once. And we get the sentence. jerseys. I think pat evans. Dj at my house now so we talked to him about his. His book and pat is brilliant football. Mind and we ask them about some things that we were discussing here. How these players. Changing in this particularly player that i was really bummed. The nazi hope. He's doing well i read. It was an illness. Andreas christiansen we get into that with pat nevin. Who is making a return engagement here please. Not just because it's chelsea legend. Not just because it's a friend pod. Please go out and support this man's book the accidental football it because he is a fascinating story teller. Share some of those stories with us next. Get the latest chelsea news straight to your phone download. The fit stand app. The official chelsea. Mike and i have had our say on at chelsea's to-to win over athletic to advance in the champions league. Let's now hear from the chelsea manager. Thomas toco speaking of chelsea tv. That was going to ask you about the noise from the stands tiago. Guiding traffic wasn't yeah. You should be on the pitch of at least he gives some support from the from the from the stance. Notice it in the end. This is like this. If you want to have a special results you need a special atmosphere and you need a special approach and the group has to be strong. This will never be different when you reach highest level in football and this will never change in no in no division and in no game of football that if you have a special bond you can achieve special moments if you have a special moments that makes the bond even tighter and closer so this is it and we have a little bit of luck. We are super strong. Force it and and we. We never give in this very impressive. It was a fast. Start of the game wasn't expected to be quite that open. They were trying to press us. Hi which increased Increase the speed. There were hardly any interruptions in the game but we said before we used to play a high intensity. I intensity games from premier leak. We thought that this may be advantage. taught them because they are not used to play in this intensity so we catch them day. Try to to press high. We could escape the pressure. More more Could could use our speed and and make them suffer a lot so this helped us second half they changed to formations and we needed to adapt in many situations. But but we never. We never lost the face and Everyone some moments needed to suffer. But this Is is good too because we are ready to suffer and nobody loses dispirit and in the end the city served win this amazing that we do it again with a clean sheet fantastic pad. It's good to have you on again. And it was about a year ago that we have on the show and we were just finding out how to do a podcast remotely and under new circumstances so almost like a full year to the day. Here we are discovered zoom. We believe he did it on skype. So it's good. Have you back again. We came away with that interview experiencing. We desperately wanted to have you back on the podcast. So here we are have you back. We'll get to promote your book sir to you about what's going on at chelsea did you watch the grammy's and know you're huge. Music talked about the last time. Sadly i was traveling although i was doing a football game out. Wembley and I live in scotland. When was in england so i had to drive seven urged the game and seven hundred back to this game at wembley for another one of my own teams. I played for the second half of my career. Tranmere rovers left that team new are playing in a luli cup final. I was doing it for tv here. So i've really seen the grammy's tiny thing about it. I will catch up with it and say of call some sleep. Well that's understandable. I'm wondering though being that you're Our music expert here on chelsea mic'ed up go back into our archives and check out our first interview with pat. Nevin was terrific. What were you listening to this year. What were you hoping. Came away with Some grammy awards. Well i'll be honest. We stuff. I listen to hug off. Oaten hell of getting a grammy. Yeah maybe in ten years you know the stuff alison tunes pope. Your tenure rada of icy ball used off recently and the bands. The most you really wouldn't have had tell me about it. you're introducing. Let's use this platform to introduce some people to some new music. What are you. What are you listening to well of my favorite tracks. Not just over yet. Year goal was buying cold llagas on their american. And they think that maybe californian track co mean dream wishes absolutely fantastic slightly psychedelic beach. Boys meets go. Walk up with a slightly mutant inflection. Does that make any sense. Hopefully it makes me wanna listen to it. Lila's l. l. You said go on youtube at. Monday's is such a great dry. If that then basically the corn him stuff i like which is going to be some of the video games. That bahn's i've moved recently bought right here in front of me. Taxi jeremy from wales crags new died really good. Oh my life. goat girl. King creosote with scottish has scorched people. Mint julep none of these anyone's head of a head though but even the ten years from now it would have been a fun game if i if you made one of them up and seeing if i if i could see on. Oh yeah i love their sound mint. Julep totally made up all the time. When i was joseph. Because we lebron's their aunt join holland's time he was in and i would tell them the name of the buns and just refused to believe me that there was a band called the justifies inches of women. Of course we became quite famous under the ko f. and had lots of singles. You gave up. When i liked to code chief sprout and no no and had you seem to kind of fashion yourself is something of a taste maker that the music i like is popular ten years later. Is there a band or musical. Act that you were most proud of ugandan on the ground floor on us. seventeen bond. i really liked. It was twenty of us there on the record johnny and the self abusers. I really like them i. They had the support online as well. Never really quite good. as well. and then five years lee joining us abusers who then changed into simple mines. well plan other gig without other band. Who des cheese in to you too you too. I was gonna fall in new york late when were joy division of while. I'm sure you get into your passion for music in your new book. The accidental football. What can you tell us about this book. And and how people can get to know you through this book. Those that don't pat evans an extraordinary storyteller. And i imagine you tap into that skill in this book. That is a reason for it. Really to have about fun. And i can be not so many things. But so many people who've at written one before that was beacon psychology so tho- wide rates on pepe. More fun lights out and and the concept is quite simple is very much who seder. It didn't mean that. I disliked the other. Footballs but i came from a very different place. I'd be doing a degree I wasn't committed. Wanted to be a football. I love playing more than anyone else but the concept of football life. I really fancy very much. And so what i did is i watched him as a foia all the way through my career and there was a period matang stuff to the chelsea where i was. I was nicknamed for away. We'll do that was my nickname we have done and i was saying well. E equate lake it and be more importantly. I'm the normal when you are a weird to have clearly convinced the you're a non normal. Because i like you definitely some musical theater. The cinema janina been boost. That's normal people do and then they were normal. Maybe i was wrong. I don't know and yes is football but to some degree. But it's not a normal memoir of though you know as in the form of a memoir slaved for except thank and that was the concept of an when i started writing cute not stop and zidan tell anyone was writer. I didn't go to a publisher. that's not my style. I don't have an agent and things like that. So i just wrote a famous about three weeks later a done something one hundred fifty thousand words. We should cradle united states. Half really anyway. I had in the big secret as of not the publisher yet park to and they don't know we'll see how the sales do for book one. I imagine. I don't care if it doesn't to me. It's not sailing. Oddly qena just lake telling me stories and v o find you want to know what is really right but what you tend to hear as what other players tell you. What it's like address them that via to s- reflect him what they see which is unique. Need what you see when you walk into nostalgia concept yet. Classic no gift too much. We obviously took an member. Why said last on the show but the was one moment after insane. And i just finished my second year my degree and i think the chelsea to these into six foot one inch centre forward whose way intersects two inches winger cocaine of ojos black standing naked a bath punching each other. You people are mind normal. People don't do the that grief. Amihai add something. They can use a bokan of who i played with. We were very worried about montalva for weeks. Don't remain was he's pulled through and I've been texting when talking to them today on. He's absolutely out of the woods and recovering well. So that's great news poll. Who was the first ever black clear to play for chelsea. And he's another guy if you ever get a chance to read his book that is special but as a cracker sco blackened with again the accidental footballer from patent. Evan is available in your online retailer from may twentieth. So you mentioned wanna give too much away. You mentioned one story there. But they're your. We're trying to convince the audience here to purchase. The book won't be an story that's not like maybe like in the top five in the top ten of stories that are in this book the chosen ones because it can have insane stories of no heat that there's a heated that when all that stuff's there what it felt like when you were on the and strange things happened like we were very close to bishen to win the talk week with no because the family and then we played two games in two days. Now i knew the hums some american sports but it doesn't generally help them soccer. You know we to gan's in two days and we win bootham and one was a Fain so members confessional when we which we won five four and we have gray or we thought we could. Because i think we will what we won one more game that season over the next sixteen games and why had to do was look back consider. Why top because at the time. Everyone in hindsight news. Why these things happen. But you don't think about that same because you've got another kid another game so psychological you never went by in fact it's thrown to look by and when i started looking back a little bit love and need a lot but more sense and classically one of the reasons being a log fating with each other great thing was a fight between david speeding calmly then the next week the fate between Speeding texan and expert was between david. Speedy join guatemalan and then it was one david speeding polka linked. Here kind here. Agro yeah. I mean it's a simple starting new increase at. I'm starting to point fingers. And i'm i'm gonna say maybe one person was partially responsible for all these east very big part david speed because having. I didn't yawn other. Apparently he keeps on saying here like me. I think that's not abusive thing. Totally different people will politically. And you're looking life as an instead of doing what you normally get men wants. Which is one guy slaughtering. Some other guy. I try to do is try to make sense of understanding of why people accidentally the same almost idiot is no with ed pet. I love talking to you on unfortunately going to have to take the conversation being that we are the official chelsea. F c podcasts. I do want your thoughts. Because they've been good on what's happened here at chelsea under thomas to cool but i'm just for the audience reason. Why open this up with wanting to find out. His music recommendations is patrick. Renaissance man patois was a dj. -ing under secret names while he was a first team footballer over at chelsea. He's a free spirit. he doesn't necessarily fit what most people i know. People try to put professional footballers in a box. You were way outside of that box. You're a free thinker. I appreciate your stories and insight with that being said. I'm gonna put you in a box now and ask you about what's going on with football club under thomas teuku You you mentioned too. It's not exactly two games in two days but the fixtures are picking up for chelsea here. This episode comes out after their champions league tie. But they're going into the international one of the things that i find very difficult to explain to just casual fans that have been paying attention to chelsea is how the defense has been fixed using several of the players that were identified by many in chelsea fandom as part of the problem. Thomas suco has galvanized this unit and a lot of players who were shaky prior to our now solid as any recent chelsea defense that you've seen even some of the josie marino teams when you extrapolate this over full season sample. I think gen number some of quite complex and technical thanks. You're right he takes somewhere. He almost makes each individual player project. So christianson is a project and has developed. Who's walked and he had allowed project on. A couple of alonzo has been a project. So he's gone those two players but she didn't have before an end. Get along more of calm hudson and he just takes one player. Attainment seems to a low them flow to thomas. Tickles almost got three or four new players. Even though he's not boy anyone it's just please who've should improve that much that and that's what he's trying to every single player a chance to improve and the possession that he thinks is best when an actual fight the biggest changes. He stuck an extra defender in there. It's not complicated. We used to play like florida. The by now i came to five. Obviously the wing bikes will grow up and down but with no go three center bikes and setting front. No actually that's very difficult to great time on the top of that if you makes you team is in possession. The vast majority in town then he can't breathe don't if the ink the ball so yes. There are complex technical things going on. But it's pretty simple stuff as well so he's managed to take them defense incredibly still one. Opposition player scored against joseph the to whom twelve games. She's incredible but we're not creating is many chances and that's what i'm put another guy there. You've actually no go three seven defenders really to sit in front. That's really a core five. I'm not seem a negative because the ring backs can go on. We've got creative. Liz ahead to venezuela the oldest oldest things and soccer. Everyone used to see. Get your defense today. I so that's what he's done. he's sort of died. So loose gardner zahar part because amy an amine any sport and just about anything in those planet you think about it creates much much easier to destroy than create much easier an anything we've managed to destroy and as good no comes tough bar go create a not as much much mys- why we love hazard. That's why i love these guys. It's much much harder. Knots about that will struggle a little bit with said. I can see real signs. You hopes that we can actually change the about. Because has methodology and stay quite unusual. Because he's playing this system where we've one straight sometimes to attend a two guys behind him on breaks teams in used to them so when we get what can well and when we get the best of hover. Tim oh. I think it could be quite gerry. You know teams find themselves but we do need someone who can unlock. And we've not really that guy yet can hoping it'd be and it may be eventually but at the moment we have got someone who can and those spaces and create something from nothing we hazardous sitter and you mentioned kind of the development of the defensive players. Ri- christianson hudson. It's like finding new players in some respects. I think there was almost more of an expectation that would happen with the attacking players. You mentioned christian pulisic. Obviously from our perspective is very involved with that. Meant to be brought along team over. There are so many players that could be that talismanic figure for chelsea and yet. It just hasn't happened yet in this season. Do you think that's something we might leave this. Twenty twenty twenty twenty one season with an idea at least of who that player is going to be heading into next season and have a beginning. Actually he. he's gonna is gonna why it's not quite an f. It's gonna win with traits. Not half this wayne. Hope acquaint quite soon win back and see the power coming into his game. You have to have it so difficult remember. Some of these guys are really learning the game and ugly because a lot of money just because someone commits a big price in your head doesn't mean you know everything is best to land in the premier league stuff and to land knockin of level an expectation levels of chelsea are incredible as bell. So you know. I have real expectation that have will be quite special van again. Caught selling things played stunning canaan city to fight the plague. Joseph very deep and has thing is to run into space now. I was at eleven bougie melody and level pooh-poohed this high defensive light which is great for a team of anna is brilliant and those games you know but we don't often teams like that to play. It's so all these players each and everyone are capable of making this giant leap forward. But you're upset ray. No one of those and even christian pulisic and as well you know. He's a fabulous fabulous telling he should be one of the best blues road going to really regularly and it's keenum because of injuries and stuff. I suspect maybe next season before we get in the best may be a couple of seasons that if you're building attendance guy. Bunch of twenty one twenty two twenty three year olds. That's what sometimes happens. And when they were all suddenly of an age with their twenty four twenty five together on the peach then suddenly. You've got something special if people think that's just an excuse. Remember what will it will happen. We'll go that. You're not young. Ludd saleh qena hefty bill. You know let them. So the other one you mentioned before and you're asking about taxes but christensen's maybe even more obese and not in that elk because most people have played possession. Don't even come close to the best football until the twenty six during that possession famously takes ages for them to become quite please nestling. You're just beginning pressing. So may this season to for all of them. It may be by african. Keep everyone together. The vast majority lose together. There's every is next season special. The wisdom from pat nevin now return guests here on chelsea. Miked up please support. Who's been kind enough to join us on this podcast. Make sure you preorder and he pick up after may twentieth. Be accidental footballer. Great stories he was kind enough to share. Some of them on our podcast. A couple of times now. Pat always a pleasure. Can't wait to speak with you again. Hopefully send another full year sir. Yes been opposite very being love coming on the show in a talking to all of you in the us and the so many stories to tell you about by takes over there and there's lots of them in the book. Oh that's terrible cell. But there are i. I'm sure you'll enjoy the well hopefully Numbers keep going way. They are here in the us. Vaccinations come up. And maybe one day we get to see chelsea on another summer tour of the us and maybe a book tour from one pat nevin with a side dj said. It's the first ever combo book tour. Dj set well. We'll go sponsor that event only st vegas. Well they're opening up pool party soon. A pool party in vegas. Dj by pat nevin. Let's get a crack. Introducing puff played the most advanced training after available and used by the chelsea academy built with innovative play truck content featuring mazda clauses from some of football's biggest stars offering. Walter ross clinton lights football coach so the to become to play. You want to start training for free download on the app store now. I would donate a large chunk of my chelsea. F c salary just to pat nevin on the one condition. He might mental sherpa occasionally. Text me a music recommendation. I've been listening to lose since we recorded. That interview. Chris whittingham he's a delight. Now we give proper respect. Probably not honestly we can do episode at day on chelsea's women's team conti cup champions second trophy. They've already gotten a double. Don't tell me that the community shield that very marino of you mike very marino of you. I'm going to be holding up four fingers by the end of the year. Baby better believe that content cup. And i know it was six. Zero people are saying flat track team. Just chelsea phenomenal team. They might be a team for all time and so might manchester city snipping on their heels. We'll get to that in a moment. But we're just an episode removed from a singing the praises of super frame kirby who might be the world player of the season right now. She's been fricken. Phenomenal and good. News is jesse. Must have listened to the podcasts. Because there's no way of knowing that she's been brilliant right. Josie must have been listening to the official chelsea. Podcast because frame. Kirby gets a much deserved contract extension. She's locked up a proper blue. And i have to be honest. This is the stuff of documentary films. This is the stuff of movies what she has gone through it to get to this point and i know that it's kind of become a thing. Where frank kirby is sometimes not even talked about as much as a footballer because of her incredible story but to get to this point and be involved in essentially every goal in a cup final that helps chelsea when yet another trophy to score again amid weaken a three. No win against everton the wfl when as you mentioned manchester city. They're heaping on the pressure in the wfl right now. Both these teams are winning. Basically every match they play only two points separate them in the table and frank. Kirby has just been phenomenal and could probably as you mentioned. Make a case for world player of the year. we'll see obviously international competition. Play such a big role in those kinds of awards. But i mean what a sensation she has been and now we just finished the champions league tie chelsea's campaign in the women's champions and he's gonna take center stage during this international break two legs against volts per coming up while chelsea men are not playing so i think that's kind of the next thing for chelsea on the way here. Is this champions league quarterfinal. But frank kirby what a player absolutely. And i'm really excited about the fact that they have the sage alter themselves but just so improbable right you and i were banning about the idea that maybe mendy is a player of the season on the men's side. That's kind of as improbable as it was for frank. Kirby chelsea didn't really know what they had in. Frank irving knew what she was. Prior to hurt hill minus. But now she's come back in had kerr and harder and all these marquee signings chelsea broad in its really galactic house in blue shirts. It's it's incredible and the gold. Standard of the team just walks on the field and elevates our game. Forget being the same player which is an achievement enough. She's found another gear for am a hayes so massive of nice little bit of revenge against everton which knocked chelsea out of the fa cup man. I would be holding up five fingers one of them got. He's a little trust me. This guy was like roberto carlos. Do this massive really tough all four chelsea in the champions league. These are the best so really excited to see that things before we move onto the mailbag number one. I like the idea of calling chelsea women galactic us great idea number two frank kirby top of the chelsea mike dream guest list. We want her on the pod and number three. Can somebody in the united states broadcast these games. These champions league games. Wsh tremendous job. I know where to find the chelsea women play. It's not apparently last year semi final and final war on cbs. All access now paramount plus. I have not been able to find them. I wrecked my computer with an illegal stream. I shouldn't be admitting this out loud for the for the second leg against. Let's go somebody televise. These matches please. Champions league volks berg. It's during the international break. We're starved for club team football. Can somebody get this done please. Partners at the club gives us a. Cctv want to be able to watch these. So we can talk about them. And would love to talk about them with frank kirby to just echoing your point there frank kirby and obviously dream guests number one. Now that we got olivier giroux take out of the way. And i have great respect for the man but if the hair wanted to send me a jersey would put out a framed that went to you. You threaten the audience with it chris. Let's come through on a promise by the first time in the mail bags History in two thousand twenty one. We've done this in the calendar year just yet so mail time. Let's answer some questions. Well actually this is apropos. What we've been talking about from at bayer. The dan frank kirby belen door. I'm not opposed to it. I'm not opposed to it at all. This is actually interesting because we talked about him some but let's hit on his upcoming games in the international break from at. Us soccer mom one. Why do we see. So much pulisic slander. Even from the hosts are thinking that maybe we were practicing a bit. Too negative about christian pulisic came on today and got an assist as a substitute but is there a chance that maybe this international break and actually a good thing for him. We often kind of are hoping that he goes away with the national team and doesn't get hurt but now a chance to start a couple of games and maybe build up some confidence here with the. Us team this team. That now is really exciting to play with. After yunus mussa was announced. He's going to be an american international part of minnesota's on right they. You're being too negative. I can't believe that that's the first time i've ever heard that my reputation is international. Win like hated by large segments of chelsea twitter. Just because i route so actively for the american i think the last few weeks. We've had to call them as we've seen them and i'd like to say we amplify we're obviously rooting for christian. Because we're american american chelsea fan. But man i get so excited when that cooking who was one of the more informed players in the world of do months ago and i want to see it. I wanted to make the most of these opportunities. He hasn't quite yet. Today was an encouraging sign. And i think part of the reason why i'm encouraged by the upcoming us playing time for the first time in a long time is i didn't wanna see him up there because i was afraid to get hurt. I think everyone sort of agreed that club country. It seemed as though everyone had an agreement. What will whoa let sound risky with his plan. For everyone to realize this is good for the player is a major positive step again in growing confidence within his body. Because i can't imagine what mental hurdles himself has had cleared this season because it's very frustrating. Look got but this is an aside but my pleads for what is artists going forward three to this is a total non sequitur montana. Man this is just an aside but my heart breaks for what is going through right now at madrid. It is tough when you get into one of those cycles. It's very difficult to break yourself out of. I really enjoy that paramount. Plus now them that's gonna take some getting used to jamie. Carragher was was brilliant. Comparisons to ryan giggs christian pulisic. And how gigs had hamstring injuries. And he couldn't see the field for a very long time. Those very frustrating. And then i mean ryan giggs considered like the of the sport. He didn't miss a game for like twenty years after that initial battle with fitness. so i think they're encouraging signs. Here the manager has publicly supported him. He is not like thomas. Sukhal knows how to play the media quite well. He's not marie. Sorry he knows exactly how to give the political answer and keep everybody bought in right now. 'cause you don't want one sour attitude in that locker room. Everyone seems pretty happy for everyone. Success did you see christian space when he got. The assistant wasn't that of just relieved. They were so excited for persson. Getting on the scoresheet. That's what i really see the reactions for everybody no hidden agendas by anybody. Everyone pulling on the same rope including christian. And i know there have been reports about links other clubs and retail. Romano said christian is very committed to chelsea. Hopefully we can put that behind us. This is a player for the future. He is still very young. I have high hopes for chelsea's number ten. I will keep calling him that purposefully. Because i need to remind people he earned that number ten shirt and we hope to get it going for the national team as we're fans and surely you are you. Us soccer mom one. So hopefully this is great for club and country and i think with this national team situation. It's actually interesting in reading about the number of players that might not be able to play particularly the second game away in northern ireland due to travel restrictions. One of them is weston mckennie because italy's in full lockdown right now so it's not quite the full. Us national team. It's actually kind of member early on in the season. We're dreaming of what it looked like with sick verner hazards on the. I like the dream. Us men's national team is just like is escaping our clutches of the covid situation. Right now but look. There's more exciting. I'm really excited to see a potential. Daryl decay combination developing. I'm excited to see how it looks national team setup because it was so promising back in november. I think the national team is making huge steps over here because of the player development. That's happening in program. So i'm excited to see how he looks at. His team hopefully can come back. Having played against jamaica northern ireland a couple of lesser opposition hopefully can get on the scoresheet create chances and look like christian politic again so many gets back in the chelsea team. He can really start to impress. Thomas toco all right now. We turn our attention to the fa cup club. Football's oldest trophy. I say time and time out. I always want to win this this trophy. You're in the competition when the darn thing. I was bummed that we lost last year in the final and sheffield united and portsmouth and amp. Do find themselves. Yeah sure to be relegated. Obviously gotta to be relegated back to the championship. But they're in this competition their entire season hinges on that feel good feeling. There's only one place it can get and it's in this match against chelsea so they can continue marching on in the fa cup which is always a dangerous situation is a talented team. Mcgoldrick's over there. I mean he's ready to hang up on us again. I'm already shaking in a corner. Turns in rinaldo every time we play them. So i'm a little worried about this. You definitely gonna get some rotation here. Yeah christian pulisic may be libya agent route. I i said. I never wanted to go another game without seeing route and i only seen him once since then. Yeah let's start here. Hopefully emmerson i think just based off that finish alone. And he's probably due to well. Maybe callum hudson door regimes very quietly. He locking down that right wing back feeling good with him. He's been really good. Excellent against that lets you go. I thought he was as he played that position brilliantly and offers kind of a similar attacking threat. I won't say is as good but you can get the team forward and got some strength as well on. The touchline needed needed that against static. I think that's probably why he was picked. Because you knew you needed a strong defender on that right side. But i think been brilliant wonder how deep the rosser is. Because you'd like to get some rotation long back line. But with diego silva aggravating an injury in coming up on an international break not wanting to risk re injury or not going to see him out there. We'll see what's going on with. Chris and i wonder if they can tap the academy. Maybe can give somebody start there. Because i know zuma got a head. Collision rudiger's been expanding all sorts of energy as the. He's got older legs. I'd like to see some people get a break long back. Just don't know who's available to give them that break. Yeah unless you're recalling players malone's i mean chelsea of the bunch of centreback. Say look like they're on their way. I mean you. Have you know tomorrow who's out in milan and ambiguous. Sheffield united margate. Who's been brilliant at at swansea as well but those players are unfortunately unavailable. I'm just curious if you're talking about rotation like an chelsea desire to win this competition like d make eleven changes because you've played so many games you're in a primarily dog fight you can probably be sheffield united at home but you probably will struggle if you make any changes even as poorly sheffield united. Have been so. I guess my question is how to handle this. Given obviously the fa cup can be important but finishing top four. Getting into the champions league an international break we're travel is going to be an issue You know before you come back and play some big matches in the premier league of the champions league. I'm really curious how seriously he takes it. But i think sheffield united or a week enough opponent that you can make seven or eight changes and get away with it because sheffield chris. Sale got sacked five nil away at leicester that club looks like it's increasing the real issue getting back up again from the championship. So if you can get away with it. This is probably the match to do so. Let's close out this episode with our predictions. It's brought to you by the play predictor game. You can find this. Play predictor game within the chelsea the fist and at make predictions against fellow chelsea pants win. Cool prizes. chris. Obviously neither of us had draw in that game against leeds united so we look at the aggregate score. We we see who had the score closest what happened now. I called to one which was wrong by three goals. You were wrong by six. Six goals scored. I did in leads chelsea. You miss your exactly that much. Defend yourself. I have to be honest. I don't feel like i was wrong about the game. you will. I mean we all woke up at seven thirty in the morning. Groggy needing coffee our west coast listeners. At four thirty in the morning for the kickoff. And i feel like we're all awoken by an absolutely bunkers. Fifteen minutes of the game could have been like three two after fifteen minutes. I don't feel bad about that. Prediction at all. That game was wide open more. Open the see. Any chelsea game has been it was bonkers just there was no finishing touches applied. But yeah i was. I was still way off. Came does seem so long ago that we haven't actually talked about it here. Thinking was nuts down the weather. I just pitch. You can't throw that at me at the time coming to essentially duck. Let's not do that again. No more leads games at seventy. I'm all right exactly. You needed seven. Thirty am because i'm tired. I knew awoken by the football. Did i'd microdosing this loose amazement. I could've sworn i saw gale force winds blowing in the air. All of a sudden see mason mount baston sunshine it was. I was so confused. And they're also playing on a rugby pitch. Because i mean i share were treating the greens over at l. road united. Have a very means derisive song about ellen road and is being fully sheep. It looked like they let she just eat the turf for this match. I was worried about all the players. Health thankfully player together healthy all right. Let's make predictions for this. Fa cup match. I will go first. And i will see the florida you just so long as you remind the audience that you were six goals wrong on your prediction. Okay here's what i'll call for. Sheffield united chelsea. I don't have the guts to predict a chelsea loss. I haven't seen one under thomas two-goal this game worries me. I'm a nervous nellie. In that way. I was nervous about letting go madrid. I have already outlined the reasons why i'm nervous. That being said. I think chelsea defense is too good. I wonder if they will still be good. If we bring up an academy product. Because i want to see some backline wrestle over there because there. There's some tired legs. That could use a breathing. So with all the warnings. Have i'll give you. I will still say chelsea one blades. Nell now goes off the last time i will also remind the audience wanted for executives in a row so my prediction for this one. Easy win. easy win mike. Have some confidence in the side. Four nil the chelsea in the fa cup quarter-final to wembley after this match. Chris you have them out doing their thomas era by double. That's correct a chelsea football club that have not scored more than two goals under thomas. Oh okay haven't learned your lesson. I've learned mine. Oh no i don't wanna learn. This lesson. goal is fun. I've learned my goals. But we'll see if you replace people were asking me. Why are chelsea scoring the manager. Obviously values defense. Because we're not playing their best goal scores with regularity. I don't think giroux would have scored goals by now. He's shown it with his minimal opportunity under thomas stupid. A guy's the most efficient goal in the primarily data. Well he may be outdone biomedicine. But i think that's part of the reason why chelsea at scoring is because they don't have best goalscorer. The most potent goal score a permanent clip out there because they value the other things that help them get the results. You sacrifice that to be able to have a one male lead up against that. Let it go and mega-deals literal mountain that athletico madrid after climb won't follow you there. I think we've got to build up. Let's get three goals before we started talking about. Can i talk you down to three. No no toll that you predicted against leeds united incorrectly. Four nil. four neal's my prediction. Well we'll see who's right won't be four goals scored in that game. We'll play back the tape. It's not happening so we speak again of gels.

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Down Under Sigmar 20 - 2019 Masters Round Table

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Down Under Sigmar 20 - 2019 Masters Round Table

"Good hey you find legends. Welcome to down on a sigma UA. He as always with the coach and he's friend maybe he's a friend maybe he isn't the frame depending on where you stand in this community. Laham Shadow have A. You've had a lot of love and this week how you might. I am right. And I'm loving the split community of this likened love lamb. It's been great. It's going to be a main very very sane but also in the low master member that I am also low Mazda. Matt's disappointed in that comment. I mean good man how. `Bout you really well and we might have. I've all my Gosh Dave. We've just been trying to sort that. Some guy comes in takes off his shoes guys. We all he on the on the Dan onto seek mainstream. We ought to be talking all things. The Australian MAZDAS which happens this weekend. Downing Melvin We have ten challenges to the throne. We have the back-to-back Mazda. He himself will do the round rubbing reductions. I will start with the Moscow because he is the Mazda. 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You've probably seen him on faction focuses. It is Joel. The overlord McGraw how I might go myself yet. Really good and for anyone who hasn't seen your five thousand point. Mega battle hasn't listened to the fine linguistics. You guys on the source. Give give everything introduction That's the guilty pleasure. Might Bush Friday guilty pleasure podcasts. An area in the community sites get on that was good in charge. And Don. Sorry Yeah. That'll do so well knowing that he doesn't even aged auction. You just know him. As he's gone he runs the basic. Kfc run slash. A is an absolute legend. A also a man who basically is my co posted. The these days is the mayor the mayor of dubbing himself he hasn't had to do any like building openings today so we rain team. How Mail on doing well? Thanks Buddy air you good. What do the introduction? I mean it's not like the the just saying the Bundy. Bdo sorry for people who got triggered by me calling them the Bone Daddy's restrain on that monster and that mustaches floats can't call them. Stores Floats attributed few able from Anthony O. R. I was fine with it. I find it was hilarious during trump. Yet okay on that If you haven't Samuel Navy On from ole-ery plying IOS refugees. Now and heading off to mazdas fondly. Miss de just last year and So yeah pretty came for the weekend and just catch out with with all nights and I've actually ever really sparked to die before that'd be good catch up with him and gets made him and Yeah and everyone else say should be co or so crew and also have Ashley gearing coming later in the show as well who everyone may know him prior mom and if you ever videos as well to be tagging along with us as well he's also qualified for the masters but yes So Magara driven mid much needs for airless. We've got the new battle force boxes coming soon. That coming out this week and also had some artwork released for those slice of documents. That was it really. I'm ally it wasn't. It wasn't Minneapolis. Better forest boxes Ninety four or something the four on each side. Yeah came five Zero Forty K. But this full focuses into the based on armies from the stock collecting books so stolen cost and not hose and then as escape in one and a someone else and a glimpse spot spot for not haunt the stone cost and yeah they're pretty good boxes the knighthood one is just so many models like so many others. I can say myself opening that box being like. This is overwhelming like overwhelming amount of spruce. But Yeah So looking pretty much news wise. We only got doctors very nervous coming out in this sharing of some artwork so I think we can talk about games. Played Any guys been doing much practice for this weekend. Even though it's a big one couple of games. Yeah going in between pining Off Lost in both so great. Start OUT BAD losses out. I just just working at how. The army works to be honest because it's a new army. That's only played three games with army itself The first game was a different list. It was nationalised But yeah just plan a couple of games just to cause all obviously right in the bulk and looking at rules is a lot different actually plan the army and and how it works So yeah just trying to get up and just work to be honest. Yeah so a couple of times Both close games. I wasn't like I got washed but I have noticed. Noticed one thing. The army's just doesn't die luck. It's just both games. One game was given and the other game yesterday against Jesse Perkins Fiqh and Yesterday against Jesse I think a lot of lost one hero or something like that was against must stalkers and that was like I didn't even lose half mommy against fix I. It's pretty good skype and the other day was assign obey lost ending as well so but it's it's a lot different to what I'm used. Applying Amused applying those. Obviously death. And Everything Dawes so you just throw. Abel's vices in your expected to and so just getting my head around that Just echina- things so try it again tomorrow. Heartfully and then ready for the weekend solid solid. Sol-solid Dave Carter say. We'll talk about the army list light up but have you practiced practiced lost time I sawyer. You're running ORCS and said this is my Mazdas list. And then I look at the muscle legalism I. That's not oaks and we will bring up lists soon so we'll listening and we'll share what they're actually bringing boss. Yeah I'll just leave A bit of advice here for and Mazdas Playa. If you laser week is running for about two three weeks into MAZDAS. You probably win one of the least questions we got was actually from the mayor of Dabo and he ended alright the question he says. Can you please all day how it's GonNa feel for him to become these dragging Mazda for the next six months and then also Australian US sixteen months and also to ask for a cheat sheet on how he can beat your army a please n? Thanks so he he He really entering sites. Yep that's GonNa feel it's GonNa feel good for wall night and then the pressure started to build and the expectation start to build and crushing. And then you find yourself sitting in the bottom of one day news kind of shaking bitten chafe abating. Miami's just kill the big things I guess. Just kill might units. You can leave the noblesse against aiking. What you do against diabetes. You push it forward for the best savings plan Moen. You've had practice games with the arrogance. Yeah I have I have. If if you want me to go in later how I got to. The stage of submitting an idealist stuck in all happily guy. That won't have was one of the questions I wanted to know. Why you some of you guys sit. At least that are very new battle. Time so potentially armies that haven't gotten to these points so Yeah stay tuned to that one because with rain acce. How many games did you win with the oaks two or three okay cool? That's the reason why this attack a running mosses list. I think once ray long weekend was I got. It was October weekends ago. Long time ago now mission was a two yeah. It was like a wake before two weeks before the submission. Yeah Joe. Have you had any practice of your mommy list? So I have a couple of games with this particular lists while ago. Actually at been bet right side can go back and watch lies on the Michigan Youtube Channel. Dan Phelps does not wanna give nothing hard But I had a game yesterday against the old might Patrick. Absolute master himself in them. Day is a bite. 'cause WE'RE JUST. I'll just try different ship. Could to start huma bind against the no shave again. Stop bitching takes me humble losing Siwa good. I have another list. The question was From Pat Nevin friend and said how does Joe McGrath feel Recently being Had A crushing defeat at the hands of the mortal corn army. How's IT GONNA affect your confidence going into the He is throwing salt. He is trying to get onto your skin even though he attained and use your club. Hicks is an extinct anything from. I think he could see that response on twitter. I think there's a photo about pat. Nevin said this is the face of a guy who just beat it by corner me. And it's drove pretty much flipping us off if that's the first time you've seen that side is because every time he Me I'm usually flipping a month so you might not say that too often. Go hang out with your games a doing any hobby and a you playing any games. I've been working but I've had a game against welfare with newborn daddy's and he was not happy he doesn't like crewless. He thinks that superstrong which I don't see but yeah he thinks the Scrim so it'd be good just enjoying the hub pot mainly probably trying to get everything. Bill had more practice games before Cancun. So yeah how about yourself your. I am a building at the moment so I've recently been hacking a out of production. Hieaux hero I think he's called. Halsey Co Caledonia Keller Journal. Basically someone who's did The the the old leader of the Phoenix God and converting him to be free killed so That'll be money. Anointed we laughing at his law of how you make else into humans when it should be the other way around. Humans wants to be else. This is my hobby that remark. I'm a hobby this I think will say to me on my chat that they don't like you. Liam stop running my hobby look. I'm just saying that. Elves are superior than humans. Kick off the show now or Wakeham Again. Completely sidetrack because lamb is being a jerk. It sounds like we're getting into the masters chat already which is wonderful. I just wanted to a couple of quick shots as we always do in every episode and that is talk a little bit about around the grounds of what's happening so from an event point of view I was a highlight Next weekend there is here on happening. Up in Brisbane We've got call to glory. Which is obviously Cancun. Chartering forty players happening If you haven't got a ticket and you want to come jump on the white list contact heralds of wall There is a white list. People always drop out Put Your name on that register if you come into Cancun as well definitely check out a Vince. Venture ellas painting workshop the day before Joel Gaming on probably GonNa go there. It should be a really good time ideas painting seminar at a depth. Deq On and I learned so much about non metallic metal And that was Anina to our workshop. Victoria's just announced an event in February the day. I think it's coming. But something something dos throwing the dice on you is something that is They they running a two day today. All which should be really cool and as of Saturday the first of December all Dumont darkness is getting tickets at full essay. Jt At sold out is she should be a great one. I'm certainly Kay on going if I can get a ticket. You guys you guys. GonNa I three full. Yeah did enjoy myself lost on I. I missed that loss. Time I'm pretty Kane. But depending on like other events that may happen next year as well. So we'll see what happens. Speaking of what else has happened recently. There's been a whole bunch of new content so I'll give out some shots. Heralds a new podcast with Dan Rowsley around the leading cities foul charge of applauded the whole library now of the next team. Tournament Joe. You guys have put out the you'll episode fifty of your video. Bet Reps thousand point mega bashful. It was yeah so fifty Youtube Channel Image of gaming which is pretty exciting stuff. Smashed them pretty quick which is good. You get what you pay full. Which is nothing. So the quality isn't the best boss in adjustable Schedule absolutely check all of these guys out. Checkout Joel's Joel's Reps. Also worth checking out eased Plastic crack. Our good friend paid off has put up a really cool east analysis off the MAZDAS team so check that out. I really good really good one really good one and Alfred Look has put out a video round the coasts. I also want to give out some quick shots. Obviously and as always to my patriots are absolutely frigging amazing. Not only that bought this week. Actually yesterday we hit our two thousand five two thousand five hundred subscribers so thank you to everyone who subscribed to these channel Really appreciate your support. Thank you to all of you guys on the street today Joel Dave Liam Matt and everyone who's been on the channel in the past. I really appreciate your support and your feedback and also thank you to everyone he kenny. Tyler reflects dog Many people here who have really made these channel happen and I appreciate your support so Yeah that's all. Let's go back to the show but someone's don't get excited Do we WANNA talk masters. We WanNA talk. Chaz nineteen would. You WanNa talk about what we're expecting coming up in like literally a few days time. Strat in the deep end. I lame lame so you got this really important question. For All of this is like a serious question and What does the Australian Mazdas main to you? Joe guaranteed good. Tom Isn't really look at a Master's in south. The accomplishment Getting in as the accomplishments I this is just the the reward at the end of the year. Conver- thing So yes that's all. It is as just a waking with some people Drinking Solid at those are great. Weekend so yeah These is what is the Moss Joy. Mazdas made you. We'll explain something always bane playing towards for the last two years so It's a bit of achievement To the football grand final Once you get a you know you enjoy it with a win lose at S- afterwards you have fun with might say Yeah just just looking forward to it. I WANNA go to be competitive Dining expect to win but Just just to go and do well And finish well is is all on heightened fall so yeah Should be good sick and finally the Mazda himself what does the MAZDAS mean to? You look mosses maids to me Street cred and Hot Babes. I mean what else is there in life down the road. In short he's come up jared Found it's going to be. It's going to be a good weekend. I'm really looking forward to this. Fancy Schmancy Tail Stein. In Luke's Dope frosted glass windows for the shower and she has in the middle of the room. Come Tall Leave THAT DOOR. Wide Open Who's tired of the credit? Yeah Taller cuisine is a style with us me. I got a I got a big old room made money. So what will drive these streams also taken down to a discussion of whose whose staying where we've got the new Reality Show of big brother outgrew. Shot for this show or much turn to an AIRBNB. Talk Show But yeah so it'd be pretty cool Erica. I think if you three for it's kind of like guys y turnoff with three three different On bases order chaos and district usually deaf. So I don't have them so take. You don't know what do you what macaroni is doing. And it's like you run like a DEF comedy but play with a model a proxy. Like how he's using humans as else. You could do the exact same thing. I'm Anthony Cook. Could even bring myself today that Liam Liam I'm literally clicking Kick Shadow Hammer from the strangely talks about me again. A bit of context guys. Maybe just a re one for a second for anyone. Who's joining the Stream? Who is in new store in the community or does it know what these events all about? The Australian masters is an invitational event. Only that happens. At the end of season traditionally AL season starts on the first of November and carries through until the thirty first of October. This is for the next season but right now. It's a combination of the best of the best tournament. against the people accumulate points for the tournament. Attend the bigger the tournament. The more points are available The top three ranking points over the top three events I guess. Come to a tally and our top sixteen invited to an event now. Unfortunately a few people have dropped out so this year. We only have top ten. But that doesn't mean that it's a lesson. Competition just means that a detachable is even tougher to win because he's going to be submarines Isn't that right Joel? It may signed. I'm GonNA submarine or one. The AD already FA- I ran. I wasn't getting actually. You know what it's a really good point as well side. The draw is already up and we'll get to the draw very soon bought and we've got at least as well so the lease have been published yesterday so we've got Was it six. Chaos armies to order army's One destruction one deaths. Today's taking the destruction Matt's taking the new the new Bundy's We've got one almost one of every chaos to Corneau's inch but is like one stable and one slash one. I go one of an one fake army. Of course we've got we've got the the chaos tool sets there's no danger what we've got cast wolves. Yeah it's pretty good mixture of like thing As I said before has actually coming a really good time. Army with that But we talk about that most saying but yeah I yet ten people. It's not the usual but It just competition and I think that's main reason like this is like showing you why we're moving it to doing it. Media in like sixteen months sixteen months guys off the chat chat called me off. The Order Army's not just order not not any order army they had to mixed order armies. So we'd have to worry. That storm caused worry about deep. Can we don't have to worry about five slayers these are true mixed order army so we'll bring it up on on the on. The chat pretty soon bought Some Pretty Quirky list guys. What are your thoughts on? Some of these was submitted as they. Are they representative of the Meta? You think people would playing cheeky buggies and bringing something for laws. Do you think it's someone who's playing against the metal? What we've built on the list that was submitted their own competitive. I wouldn't say any of them are fun lot. I think anyone's really fun. Least if if you know what I mean. But they'll probably have fun with a list but they all look very competitive in there. I'm way I'M GONNA CO JAL out What stood up back to you up here and I said not taking gut track and cities Maryland sock. You not nice I can still for sure. I'm not Boise's title track telling you and what have you done against Lynch? Don't even do you'll be on a Miami's not the three or four Cape is like normally say so. I've heard I've just got bags of depravity. Just bodybags of two product will kick us a whole lot. So it's all good all blades. That's been was better than generating properties is making sure us. Apartments should step anyway so the the lists although there was some interesting non shelves that probably comes to ten people in the usual suspects for those non. Shell is not coming so I think from looking at the list that are coming. Think if Luca comedies daycare ages would have torn it up with that many ills and being that fast and having that turn three or strucks fast just sort of run amok. I'm surprised I fly slightly schizo. Just so good. Nice CDs I guess to the to the to weeded do to accommodate bringing mixed order instilling his own but more power to them race race. Michaela is bringing a legions of goal. We've got Joel. You'll bringing slash We've got Sam Morgan. Who's bringing auto super interesting list? You've got three hunting hounds which I think is incredible. You've got children. He's twenty drops he He is you look at this list and you know you scratch your head. We'll talk list properly but It's certainly one of those least where you like. How on Earth did this guy gets a master's he must being sparking something. But there's some secretly taking this you've got Jordan urges running Nergal you've got schwinn running What is essentially a devoted of Sigmar? Army Buddy these order material. You taking the SEOK. Born rapists Matt Campbell. Who's well known for? Cohen is taking corn. Charles Black is taking escaping tied at Dave taking the more tribes. I'm sure Jim. Darkness will be screaming and cheering on your behalf Absolutely champion of the community and in finally Tyler McDonalds McDonalds Taking Cohen. So they avi armies that are gonNA be coming with us This weekend just WANNA say regardless but Dave if you take a mosses again but you many people that can't list yeah but sites. They're on. Jay outstayed something slightly. It's it's a quick it's easy it's good apply recommend Sabaneta. It's very straightforward inside. It's not much trick. Stuart Frost loads of Bala. A good I am not I miss my Bush Friday dives and this is just we record. Stop you put the fight up on. Mango Mafia are gonNA facebook tight end. I always like theory eliminates the easy pick effect it's going to be taking A Mallet Tankard authariel scenario. It's it's an obvious If you've got a theory canner burial site. Forty-five monks against there isn't it about them. Were Clark just helped me with everything and it's just awesome. So what's everyone's expectations for the event? So what's your goals? We have goals of we have expectations. Are we just go ahead have a good time? Look my expectations out. I'M GONNA win until I lose my first game. Numbers there for from Soon as I dropped that first game. That's that's that's made done for the weekend on a with implies it's interesting because you can still win Going full one if everyone's full one but it just paints occupy here you match up against him while by the strength of schedule. So I'm just GONNA brought myself out to off depending on the drive in isn't it's probably not. I'm sorry it's going to be a serious bet. I game Offense has lost yes man. Yeah as I said earlier Kindergarten trauma best A call we'll be trying every game Even if I die losing say I'll still be that fine but I'll be trying to But yeah look the on tagging awakened animal off spending money to Melbourne Cetera et CETERA. So I WANNA try. Lack gone there for raising So Yellen tron dual and. I'll probably don't have the perfect place for just because I haven't had time to play the the is much as locking and Refund Melissa Block off couple of games authority changes to accommodate now so Yeh Look at it obey. Were Obey David. Getting Ready to go. Yeah Man for sure I'm the guy three the TRIFECTA back to back to back drop the market. The end probably kick cat on the way out casual things. Look Oregon. It's going to be really hard for me to Somme to win it this year with only ten people as Jell said I think we can all guy like foreign one and it's up in the air and if it comes to that again. This is the two men sacrifice. Ultra win it. I'll definitely try always come every game and try win. It asked me that question in five dice. Go and speaking of questions While we gotTA P L Webster has asked a Dave was the official snack of the masters. And maybe I'll ask the gentleman as well so what's the facial snack of Moscow for yourself. Shit dog that is a hard question. Big Fan of Nabis nuts. Betty's look when I was up at rocky for related bit. Always nine is the snack. A dactyl loughgall snacks and a bit of a Connoisseur of snack one snack other night. Man I Don. I reckon I can't do it again. Do It's an impossible question or I may. Maybe maybe the man can help. What's the what's the official snack of the MAZDAS? Tight Fan Anything. You'd say like a trial and names him then. Zora. You're a man and I'm a big fan of those peanut admonitions to Jerry again. Gone peanut EMINEM's to medical bringing them all eighty boom list law cod said. Nabala nut so Make that as you will What's the what's the the match up? The guys most looking forward to. And why like if you could get any drawer in any army whether it's the opponent or the actual faction what's the one that you're most looking forward to and why because I look always wanted to play against him being Caving loss GEOS planning. It's at a bird a fair bit and he was ranked number one for most of the year and then he dropped off at the end but I've always wanted to dive and never had a chance. Say That's the main reason And also I locked to say how to actually go up against the line rape is 'cause I buy supplies combat armies and Yeah it'd be interested in set goes someone who had pushed by Dave Kerr at the master's two years ago. Enjoy that if you get the chance. What's what's the first mission that passed over the boss. I'M GONNA play San Morgan and battle for the Poss Sirkin. It's the easiest way to get away. Kipnes he wanted to applying Sam if it was like scorched by your models but The past good good mission American. Good matchup they're a good solid joan. M Well It'd be GonNa win the thing you've gotTa few last you buy. I WanNA staife again Save Aging Guy. Three against me. Excuse me I'm sick song Save this dump am on anyone. That's dives never bait on ever played straight never played. It's just never been day dramatic. I've I've never I've never played. Euka replied missed out like twice. Yeah Okay you can't duck named it was assigned one hundred percent Adam. Burt last year at a few different tournaments together both Finishing first and second and not playing each other. Yes that's correct. I don't think I've played at all not boy which is odd go. What is your least favorite matchup? So you've got your favorite. What's the lease Start WITH AMERICAN DEPENDING ON SCENARIO I would say slogan If it was one of the objectives around the board because obviously Miami's Quad slide Odd side that won. It just depends on scenario from a few If it's very light number of Genitive on pretty good at holding objectives. How to move often so anything more than say three objectives. It's and someone with a lot of movement. Yeah that's what. I'm not looking forward to within shooting Mt Hood as well. Yeah vaco ECHO LACED. Trying to think of everyone is going. I'm going to say the man who broke my heart. I was really worried about God. Trek Jal legit asking the pay. Gacek come in. He's just GonNa kill everything. He touches his knee. And all of my heart damage low attacks just gonNa go to one damage. He's just can three up on what Wanka. So what was what was the plan. You obviously thinking about go- Shrek how you GONNA handle him. I hadn't come up with a good one yet. People like just Just started noblesse unlucky. That's great except the die instantly so I think at the end. I just figure it's just going to throw him like just just bodies to bodies holds at once. Yes I'm like that and just just try one objectives. Just look I'm going to throw it out there. Show broker trek. I think he would've won any contact that back to China to be. I'm not you take. Oh but I imagine the answer is yes. It's too white too. Dave not worried about facing Nash. Fair you're going on yeah on. I'm a bit afraid of playing salon. Nash Toilet and the Mass Murderer Matt Cohen like a good a good role on me. I'll just puncture me The the OSCE barn rape is I don't think I can kill all of them. Get through their lines. Castell SOM- Tokodi and fifty Is Probably GonNa kill me the only people that I think I'm GonNa Convincingly Sam Morgan Maybe I'll have a shot on ash if I can GET PASTA INTO I. E commerce are using rules coming through. Yeah that went through Tacoma. So that's why Kinda went right Tried to figure out my so yeah. I'm pretty much afraid of everyone to be honest the Mazda himself jo Jo Giles slash site. Yeah so that's what we prayed of Jolo. We afraid of sluggish. We've prayed of Joe with sluggish. I'm not afraid of Joe. I'm afraid of SNITCH. I look on crutches once-in-a-lifetime If you're allowed you've ain't planning for threes needs. They will come out of a coalition mosses. Landside should be good but some malloy. My probably wished met is actually against child. Black in terms of The thing is with mass climbing at this level scares me. It's just the Playa and the plant with that particular list and matchup Unfortunately after night who implying fist anymore. Battle-plan and Charles is going to be really hot matchup real month and go all the way but some yes. That's that's the one on soda laced hopeful abandon. I'm confident against Cohen. Confident Against Bein. Rapist. Confidence against ECK covent against Roster inside become Daiva confident right now. Stats or anything to guy by then. Then then you're winning seventy percent wainwright all tied thirty three. You'll you win. It's because he didn't bring you can even go trek. That's that's clearly obvious. We because I had bunching many bays on the fraud. I know that's what the problems about if you're running guide track. That wouldn't be a problem. Joe Theme you've done it for yourself. Plus I've actually bring up these. We wanted to talk about guys. Least if that's alright with you so bring Joel. Joel you talking. I you clearly and bring go trick boss for the podcast listeners. Alright out the actually Jo- you realist. You read it up backing Probably GonNA COFFIN AGAIN COPE SO JOEL. You are bringing. Your allegiance is sluggish. You upbringing from the motor realms of actually and your host is Gone Seca host What are you bringing bringing a keeper of secrets? Which is your general command trait of speed chase. All you got was interest hand The odd affected the thermal Roddick Cloak. You've got a spell on the property of damnation you've got the community Which is the lore of sled issue yet you have to ninety spills in advance vs Wendy yet coat hysteric frenzy you've got your buying blade to blade heralds exalted chariots one nine. I'm trying to. I'm trying to on my other monitor. Let it this is my matter. This is this is my main monitor. He's a little side laptop monitors. I need to double up. You've got the bring help at Herald of Exalted Chariot on Exalted Cherry. Good Damn my English is not good today Got Not effect with the Komo of the dock prints And you've got the boredom nation spell and then you've got what is it the rapturous circuit and then the born of damnation. So you've doubled taken a spell. You've got the mosque. You've got a unit of health dry with Close B.'S. Got Three of those two three eight hundred five two units of five seekers. Then you've got to batallion so one is the Sika cavalcade supreme separates And then finally you've got the on bill total taking you to command points and total of nineteen ninety. It's wasted time birds. This listed can be super faucets. Got POLLENS ON KNIFES. The unions will retry charge. The Capa- can retreat judging flaw which is not the chariots a whole heap models when they charge individuals in combat Yeah and then knocking blow up with staple friends who through the spell? Puerto Pretty much all she. Yeah Cool I was GONNA ask what you run through that spell portal. I'm glad what did you say was? It's realistic shoot Sara Frenzy there. It is all look what that does Useless against your army. Hold on this list. What you could expect from a list is going to be super fast. It's GonNa Balk in hopefully in them just so to win on objectives and Q. When you come. Niimi idea getting shot by the way in a chat. He People Calling Your List Tame as fuck you got people calling vanilla as Faulk the You're copying it and you're copying it in the chat by the way on my look if you're gonNA SUCCINCT. Karachi the so I I like show listeners. It's the best comment about slash. It's so good so at least locker friendly show lock. Hot Show has said it's vanilla as or F. Slash is meant to be to be kinky and dirty so she is not impressed to dirty about that. You need more capers secrets. Apparently like those like tights. That's what they've lost game. They want more look. I'll tell you right now. The exulted chariots by doing more damage than a capable. And so you have one Caipirinha list and you just Paul with charities and I do more damage. Kate Oriental. Lots run off. I kid you not. Laboring is a searching for what they can do. Sort of twenty points is absolute. Boggling can also respect jove and you have to build those 'cause F that kit right all. I got dressed in the building for me soccer po busted sucker. And you're in these guys. We Charles Black running escape. And Todd said we've got the Gracie on the screaming bell we've got the Gracie I we've got. The Lord will bring a GonNa play praised on the plague furnace twenty clan. Rats Claims Twenty Twenty clan. Rats forty plagued months forty plague monks. Jim Needs Wolf flattening. Vortex US sold screen bridge for two thousand points. On the noise ninth battalions. What are your thoughts on this list? And what's your what's your message to your opponent. Charles Charles. You've you've got two games up on me at the moment might but it's not gonNA be threat. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa fucking smash the Cape. It's time Eric in ulysses go. Arkansas is the money on this run Diana what what are you? What are you saying? This is because he's got here is clear. One of those charities should be out of the out of unit rats anyone he really goes into especially Pauling in twice and he does not care if that chariot dawes back zoo. Just put another one on the board luck title no-bid Right. You can dispel if you dispel vojtech. Semaine you laughing. Can you Baristas into enemies along? Pretty good against magic. It's gone can roll like unbalanced dispels and all that Phnom Money's on You. Hey Joe depravity and this lace that anything but authentic that's the bias bring brings designed to poverty ours. We thinking Jolie's guide to beat Charles in Radwan Oregon Oregon. It's up in the air. It's going to be one of games of the Rams Argon is going to be super taught if he gets the Gemini. It's GONNA make it. Hotter Avenue got buddies for those two middle objectives Yeah it's not GonNa be an easy game that's for sure. I think it's the bridge with the plague bugs that I'd be most concerned about especially if you're bringing I deplore amongst ause or is there we can? You can turn one with them if you bring them up with the plague phone so it's a pretty easy time on charge some Where do we go look funky fluid if they twenty five year? Which can move Like all in seeks. Yeah it's it's easy to screen your army. Unfortunately so yeah I think even if he wants to pop up. Forty plague monks everything to me. Everything in the game should be on gels terms so we think he is going to be a good gay. It'd be Rahm public towards JAL on the way Louis checks are really good player as well site. Hey could pull out of a hat. Dos have been pretty hot site every time I've played him anyway but yeah he's just he just rawls good. You've put water already. Put England Talking Eight. They say dos. Okay we get it. We don't die because measure gaming. Do you put out an amazing podcast talking about how to cook dies. I believe it was traced in hush airing his wisdom so goose them shoved wife for thirty secons with the six five up. You lost the puck went. Call the Kettle Black Swan dive. You're running the MALL TRIBES. You will be up against Who you begins Europeans. Sam Morgan from the dwells below will go to Sam's very soon. Do you WanNa talk through at least do after rate amount again. You definitely do crap. Sorry Liam no heck out of me. Because I'm going to make mistakes so you're running more tribes she. You'll more tribe is the bold ahead very appears to he s going to do for you. What have you got a tyrant? Which is your general. And he's command. Trade is the Lord of You've got to show with Clara And you've got the lore of gut magic with the RIB cracker. You've got the frost on Stone Horn with the artifact of brand of the spot. I think it is flawed. Vault The map trigger. Yeah he's gotTa say odd fault Get a carpet in the chat from from Sweden's GonNa Smash me of at that out. Trade is the metal crusher trump Cruncher you got the Frost Lord on starring Horn. That's more at a clinic and he's got a black hole as outright. You've got three August Glutton's three Oga gluttons. They both have clubs or blades. You've got guts twenty no blogs and then you've got the tyrant gut God for title of two thousand on the nose with one extra command point release so firstly. Let's them. Let's get real here. Let's get docking date. Who Thinks Melissa's Pacers Shit Cross loads a good man with a lot of people here on the Stream and probably watching haven't seen the new in action yet? They might have seen what altuve battled they want to see? Something may be online but the base closure rate is very different in the new book. So it'd be great to hear what the new laws with this combination side. I'll give you a bit of a back story of my year in the making and coming to this point and what we're already cy. Most of this year. I've been playing Dockland Kevin's definitely for the back. End of the was playing Dockland Cavins and I was really enjoying it. Xining it not having a little fun with them then the cities of sigma came out and I was like I can fit into CDs and then I read some of the wolf girls things that I loved in disappointed to be honest and it is a native to still take Dockland. Cavins allegiance to run the The battalion which is essentially how was playing around the activation rules and Yeah getting around those kind of newel books and I was running. Go trick in it too and it was a bola so yeah I just. I really didn't feel like that. A step up. I felt the list weak- which was a bit frustrating so I'll try to play A. What's the Oakland clans the Walk Lancelot? Walk Lynch. Yeah Big Wa. I really wanted that to jail with me. I wanted to be code. Big Wa But unfortunately just didn't Nile. Something that are really locked in something that dumb. Kinda meshed with me so I was sitting there deciding what what am I going to? Then someone from the chat Smashed base chloride is in that kind of like. He's picked up a little bit. And and then I am. I've had a couple of games with them and Eric and they do. And I definitely have the gear in the Mainz to win games and are are kind of Through this book off of a dog to begin with but after I applied it. It's definitely it's definitely fade on and I think it will catch paypal. Add in some games with the best rule that Olympic before so essentially. This list has gone if three minute which is pretty obvious. frost lords in that line gots economy guy date diving on this list because there isn't much to it either lapping this list. And it's kind of guy. So what is what does it do? So the battalion contains pliant. Yeah the tyrant and the online guts is in that battalion and it doesn't do anything worthwhile if that wing guys on the hard drive off onto the guts. Yeah I WANNA dumb to Audifax on my frost. Lloyd's one that Moronic bad. I want it bad and I really like would more give it a WII Leeann Shit Man Stein on. And it's the best in everyone who thought about his women culet. I fuck you. The list is being done in a way where it's very self-contained this wholly within that. I need to Cape. There's no like buffs and overlapping buffs and lucky. If one of the characters dawes it it takes away the strategy in the synergies and it's yeah every unit does what it needs today and it doesn't need that extra support. The butcher is in that because he's Cu and elect the mole. Nathan Mauger has off. It's the best thing ever doubt really gone once for me win. A five times. Cubed I'm going to say my Salvatore Gust And that was the best other other than that. It's a very punchy list. Very Punchy Army that occurs the bowdoin tries to kill you. It's about it also landed on more jobs super interesting list. I think people are going to be very curious to see how how they go and your opponent will be Sam Morgan from the dwells below. Who's running the allegiance auto which is coming from ogre? He's taking the tornadoes. Tanabe shod which is general with command trait of legendary fighter and the sword of Judgment. We've got the Rune Lloyd. We've got a nine zero. Also we have A Rune Smicer with ruining iron. We've got twenty long beds. We have one are up to one. Gyro Copter Twenty Shadow Warriors twit ten shadow warriors ten shadow warriors ten optional company with a three skyhooks Another ten to three skyhawks ten earth. God Bazookas Five Zero Five Konare Roy. Five canea a chameleon skinks five tree rings five trae Reds Than My personal favorite one. Hunting Hound one hunting hound one. Hunting Hound says a total of two thousand points. What's your what's your take on this date. How how you saying these lists Ash You sneaky though just coming in on a man's back to I ask tally by trade The list spies. It's it's putting a lot of units off the board or has the ability to put a lot of units off the board. It has a lot of units that it can just put up in law blocks and it can kind of flawed in this bit of movement. Shenanigans skinks in revenue NSEN Rendez Other than the liberal shod. Which it's Kinda gotta get lucky doesn't it? I mean it has to get a full plus the jump into combat. Yeah then it has to get five upstairs hit then. He has to row well. On Day six. Amino it can work now. It's pretty cool. Personally I just don't like things that involve many dos to make something happen. I'm kind of saying the BIZAC as a as a threat unit to take things down but I mean you got a lot of to be honest. You've got the Kenner are coming from the sky with show warriors popping around the board. We've got the TRAE. Red Sea can do some side boarding. The the chameleons can jump around the board. Obviously the TANABE shot as well can jump around the board. So a lot of movement Shenanigan. Yeah what of multiple small units a law? He's GonNa Flood The board and Play Movement. Shenanigans with you but yet question. How's HE GONNA win it? How's he gonNA kill you so we will move around the border control now? I'm the idea behind. The list is to not being combat with you just kept you on objectives however with your models can against him to like the frosties and then like the other ones candy is to h is going to have a hard punch line at commit that many models at into the proximity of sneakily units be an interesting match up but we need to do his thing with him. Woke up the boat and yeah he kind of grab it choice. He will who it will definitely use multiple of these units to grab it. But what at the end of the dialogue cows at Tried Guy Tanguy that's is has the best thing for my mind. Yeah I just think this is one of the best lists for me to play against with Mushayt list just purely That models counting. I think we'LL MODELS. It just makes reference. It does. Yeah and also the temple shot has said it's so swinging but when it goes off on like a support character like not even like the big guys it does the job but he does have lost. Dykes to make it work. Would they address? Yeah we we want to bring into the fall though although the Mayo in Joel Having waiting patiently. Let's get asked to explain a little bit about. He's laced-in what he's bringing in. Why and what's what's the least take yes show So join and Talk Talk. You throw it on the on the screen. Yeah let's do it Elliott's Co all right so we've got free to figure general so he's just on foot He's the kind of A last minute addition to the list. Hammond the cross Behrman Needed to fill out some battleline since fledgling shortly battleline in citizens sigma now But yeah the list is essentially. It's divided stigma lists with with some some free threatening the And it's Based off the list that I talked to to Sidney j Tay Which was obviously two thousand five hundred points. This is kind of a scaled-back version of that See for freedom. General Allegiance Auto Mall Round Warrior priests in this is why we've got ogres realm so I'm sort of judgment legendary. Which is seems to be a standard mixed order lists these days and I've got the two worlds in there which can get plus two to hit onto him city and make that judgment Gulf unfolds. And then I've got another warrior priest. Matheson redundancy on the prayers again. The world is More UNDERSEA ON THEIR PRESENCE. Well and The endless spells and also some shenanigans in killing their mind flatulence so that they get the extra tax and then three ten across bowman to fill out the battle line and those guys work with the general said twenty four inch range if that moves As they get an extra tax H. And the free general's command ability to give them a hit and win so you can get a sixty tax out of those Outline units threes by Twos at range. So that pretty solid and then we got to forties of flatulence And just attentive flagellants. Because I had some points leftover not enough years less to throw anything else in TAK- he works really well with the fledgling says well could see 'em he'll kill as he as he telephoned That gives me an extra attack. So yet gives them the the hitting power on the charge as well as when they get charged and then the everybody's Which is always solid in a good second option in the Scenarios where I don't want to be throwing the flood zones. The board sets the standard for a lot of people is In at the master's there are ten armies and of that six of the McKay also think about the world in their additional shooting attacks against chaos They are some good choices. Yeah yeah was that a gamble that you're thinking that we're going to be a high kafer presentation or what was your thinking behind this and will that that was part of why chose to take this list might not own 'cause I have played both of those lists throughout this year And I I ended up landing on this list because I'm not sure if it's going to be viable in a year's time and I wanted to be able to play a Miami's at the master's level so so so far I've played my my two others Zengin. Mind Joe's Amin that it was a choice between the night on the divided them With with Smash Bang strong in the metal at the moment Corn under this To class that made it to Moscow is with the economy's so it was a safe bet to say that I'm GonNa be quite a few Damon's in chaos armies with the world's doubling up the damage against those guys as a pretty solid option. Any questions you guys have about. Ashes listing pretty straightforward. Compendium Shit isn't we'll have accomplished let in like two to three made up on me. So this event. This is the army's so those the flag well-designed yeah well the flatland cities The world is the warrior priests on said Basically you lose all of the buffs that you'd be able to put under the flagellants and I've just. I've done other models to put into a cities lists I have not actually looked at what a war all too does. But it's pretty nasty against chaos. The the the the big lies abatements lot of banishment. So at St h Waratah twenty range. They moved ten. And then you've got threes by twos and minus one Renzo or minus two against Demons And then his three damage or damage against Kyle's can get can get quite a bit of damage Outta well. Okay Cool Very. It's it's racist is how will help on showed. Joel Kepa out. You're getting taking trek even more now. so good not taking track. No have you seen Beautiful Mandy? Missed it I just took everyone on the the Masters facebook group as Aga's Auden has lost. You saw Ivax beach. I should've concise over so mashes appointed. Actually by the way is talking about Donald. Lame JOIN AROUND THE TORONTO LIST. Yes. This one's a corn from the mortal realm of shy ish. And it's the Vengeance slow. It's radical bud FESTA. Who's a general made? Ada Traits Omni artifacts scout shot mantle. Another blood festive. Which was on vetted. Fear I Senate rage. The ragged cloak. Scott Brand slowed appraised with Blood blessing killing frenzy. Rigors temblors template is five cents a goes off center goes and tyrants of Blood Battalion. He has some skulls. Any has an extra command point. he ends up nineteen ninety and he has two extra command points. And it's interesting. 'cause Senegal is authentically allies and they have not been counted unless it's a different format that confusing. But yeah that list trying to think you're GonNa go and what you're on. What what do you say to your opponent? Well I'm not going to get a trash-talk by the way. Yeah now that's not gonNA happen. I don't know if I've met Tyler. Actually 'cause Vein to a Lotta then propping Queensland. I'm not sure if I've met him. I'm definitely not playing against his corn and I'm going to feel terrible now if I have in fact played and that's going to be awful but I do you remember a tried looking like drinking later bottles of AAs break- that could've been any of you guys. Sorry Stereotype topic ways. He he he loves the Treasury's might if you bring in Nas fresh off break- go along way. We'll be good. May I did meet him embrace him if I correct me if I'm wrong early? Do they do really well? Brace him up but he also won best opponent general. So he's he's a good sport and he's a A good player now. That's going to be fun game and I'm looking at this list. It's an interesting scenario for yet. Pat Nevin generic tons of blood. That's the one So it's neither of us will be look at the other passing on time one His his blood. This is darned have the Movement for and even with launching the cell Seca because of the shape of the deployment siren on. GonNa hit infest at So it's GonNa be really interesting to see how plays out like whether he lets me flood the board or if he tries to to get a a commanding position on the table Top. It's GonNa be it's GonNa be really interesting you think he's. I'll say I love you. Got You got Joe Joe. What he's going to try day. My opinion is By the way for affected he's at he's got sweaty palms He's got matched up against any Damon Army. But he's he's GonNa do but I think he's going to do is give you ten eight eight shooting and Bam just sean with with Dabo. Use the Santa Goals just to tie ups oil Count really progress any further waving on than just coming in to try and smash the allegations. Ernie game plans. That sounds like what I was expecting. So it's making plans around that at least But Yeah it's GonNa be it's GonNa be close. I think the big thing that's going to help him out is that I'm Ryan Clark. rage More also really thoughtful is one of the festus. Yeah i-i scared about his ability to matching defense intake that affect say tax that. Yeah No. That's totally a race. I think you're GONNA save right. Click hates now because of like using armies with pizza shooting like binary businesses off now. So I think it can't go on. You might see a lot of it. But it isn't like the first choice but if you never the met is changing. Shooting decades has with psychic abilities. That's for sure. Yeah I was GonNa say what I was GonNa say scorgeous skulls clearly doesn't worry you other then veering cancel and I think that laser range after World Talk. I do some crazy damage to blockbusters. Gather the heck so go to skulls a a solid that I'm like you say in my particular on the first time in can't is going to be white back off the back of my front lines. I'm going to be sitting here at the pinnacle of the of the The charging points The AD is not likely to influence much fest analyst. Hey Ash sor today that All night the head head Honcho. Ios In the Tiber woefully talking about What are you taking the flagellant things? The crazy that Ben Johnson was he was he talking about the flatulence. Ben Johnson the head the head. Dude Indie Ivy. Andy someone out anyway. But yeah he's talking up Despite the sigma boys the crisis Maybe that's new arm in the future might just get new. Pre exhauted happened to me instigating. This is like this is like a taking the chaos to a codex off the affordable website and. It's just like tempting tempting. Aw Yeah what about that official had as a da the Castro apply but just a companion Malley Seimas ashes lists? Yeah Yeah now He's running the The binary this The head traffic's a late on. Legion and then he's got a Cavallo's with the mighty Okay how pronounce that even play the applicable On might see. You burn shape with the K. K. Migrate God Damn Shot. Off the field. I get and now drained vitality and another bone shape With the IMPERA Weapons never sold mason with the rainforest battle shield spell their twenty motech. God's on to have great blades. Twenty Motech Great Blades Twenty God. Great Blades and then we have six Focus with two dreads Baoshan Animated the Montek Shield Quotes Battalion. And we have all the endless bells from buying. I'm rapists with by Anti Straight Gut Nightmare Predator and the soul stealer Carrion nineteen ninety points with one extra cam points so matt. What is your view? Point that one extra points just from the battalion actually get command points. some are listed as A nice pretty straightforward. It's just hard to kill the Motech God. The Saving Li Hod to kill Is Sixty With a three out re rolling size The motech show cops gives me a h Tang is me affray showed wall ability For one of those units at saving me two points to Disciplined points H H Bell Ran The Leash Kavalyauskas Hayes command ability gives plus one attacks to a unit Hollywood in twelve Cont STACKED BUT PRETTY GOOD. The shape is there. Obviously he'll is Bring models back. And then they also spell Kostas The Saul Mason's designed pretty much. He just has a good spell and then he can cost endless spells whatever it's pretty straightforward least It's all about just not dying. Obviously the multi. God really hard to kill. But they're actually really good in combat you can get them to so they've got to attack h there This vice two attacks h hit on threes wearing on force I've got a spell can cost onto ignored. Wayne on a five up. I also ignorance or anywhere on the six up sites I strive for that. Yeah they weapons exploited on a six on his another spell makes it explode on a five. Say Dan Lewis spell the todd. Strikeout gives me plus on the hit within twelve inches by That can be hitting on news exploiting fives That can be wrong. Wants to hit at Wayne. Draws let Dan they waiting on foes But yeah they. They caught deadly in combat stalkers. Their full under point unit Do what a full hundred point unit. So too does that just can doa damage if you put them in that stance. Although second contain cafe beautiful I too but Yeah that's pretty much. What the army does. There's not really much too hard. We smoke army You notice deadliest August though not deadly And different of So I'll probably the last two years obeying the last year and a half obtain running lanes in a Gash And running all about just running aboard. Join a hip away in small units die. Just bring them back With the points changes at the middle of the had to Melissa went up fifty points. I lost the extra man. Point lost a few things of of sort of haven't really applied them. Except Sidney J take because I could fit more into the tone off. Dasm points But that's kind of oil of steered away from the legions for the MAZDAS and gone with the new army. I wanted to try the new armies. Well Yeah that's pretty much that's pretty much. It other players had an opportunity to play against the buggery guy. I tried to line up a game against lamb. Hit chickened out. So yeah I haven't played against the brain rape is yet. Are you serious? I came back. That's unfair? Now I think often mazdas may naturally be playing a game straight off to pretty much depending how he feels so quickly. I'm so calm. Yeah Dave have you played Dave? Have you had a game yet again? Spine races play against him about twenty times already. I think better than you. Yeah my of now. I haven't played in once. I'm even look through. That Wall Scrolls Cy. I'm pretty sure you could just say things Kickoff Semaine couldn't I'd start to him. Tell tell if we get gang con. I am not going Consi- good luck on that. So it was that I was GONNA say may do David favoring and explain how he's going to beat you some water. I think you're You know Arya Glutton's wine even kill. W be lucky to kill one one model in the Motech God But I think you you steinhorn definitely GonNa Smash Strom mortals on the charge and then they especially I'm really worried about the the metal crunch with a the state Style combat phase And obviously all the rand on on you on you guys but even with two random still a five upside Jerry Rawling And then Yeah of got got a bit of Neg. Wani Mommy and stuff like that. So I think it's just gonNA come down to your motor ins- will just sorta smashed Erkan but Yeah I think I'm not worried about your other. Even I got with a one ren will will do damage But it's just the four upside ray rolling so hopefully negate. Fa It of whatever that I put through. What's here what's he motorway in. Saif you have deaths is obviously yet Also got a spell on on a unit which is a goal motorway on a five up so I could cost set on on my front unit. Or whatever and They're ignoring fog. Don't only give the audience just like Apprai- demonstration of how bad it's GonNa hurt. When I'm more of a Halloween might bind toss nexus I can pick a put it the middle of board and then pick when you only have one spell cost Neg One to cost the nick onto bond and dispel With on a two up for the whole ten say good luck getting off on a non or if you're a non well next month next to my Doda. That's often a seven. Yeah well average. Val You definitely definitely got the motoring a to to Smash Smash Mommy. What are your Jostle because that's got a lot of moins in it. I think definitely definitely if we get paid up against a gentle ongoing absolutely fucking smash off the table night. I played. I played the other with Mina gas leak so it wasn't the least bit. I had always had a unit of twenty Motech God in combat with Exalted Chariot. A normal charrette and What is what's the Big Bitch Kepa. And they survive to combat. Because I had the five motor inside and it actually killed Nearly killed the Capa- and nearly killed by charities that don't don't question respond to Joe Appropriate. Now I look I honestly. I think I can bait Joel. I'm not saying I can beat him. Especially with the largest that like this is a bitch Because otherwise is multi God even a unit them hidden if if I get to go first into his cape the to rent so he's gotta six up against all the rain's coming in You Know Luck. Yeah Capers Hall. Nice that the Cape Is. He's he's enjoying the sake of the big Jarrett said Yeah but inside the anything that the Charrette's can do to me is the motor earns. They multiple a massive attacks. Diet. Really get through Just because I don't have a lot of rent this way you've got ana is what thoughts might. They've got their own twenty six twenty six age. Yeah but if you don't have random it's a three upside save and then a three again like I get to write roll size. Yea like one hundred twenty attacks against through that man. You know one's got that Wichita bring daughters just taking more judge launch or at Megara. You're definitely definitely worried about jobs. Least as Flammarion Appreciate on this kid not giving you any depravity. That's a good thing justice's fest time at Mazda's on his new to the same this year. He made it in. So we got Nergal Hajer Decay his General Hillary's resilience With artifacts load obliged with the EPA quits broach associated with blades putrefaction spell and run against with lorries inscribed by five five by gangs in a black cyst with the Bhave decays Limbaugh Regard thirty played barriers and steady plague monks with the double blades and the banner. And in Gong's on Xtra Command Point What are your thoughts going up against his Matt? We'll he's he's a four up as a full drop. Sorry on the five drop say Of already been he's already been asking me a lot of questions about Miami and of pretty. I've been with him and telling him how mommy works on. I don't WANNA go there. And have any GOTCHA moments early sale. I'm happy to explain how it works. OF SODA. Banging his head about who takes I and now it's all up to him to decide with the full drop and on the five exciting. You're pretty happy to have that extra drop that. Let's drop in on like well. That's good so now that want to. I want that choice and he's like okay But this list As far as him killing me I think the plague monks of probably the only thing the an Ragas that Kill my unit. But it's more the numbers. He has the numbers for objectives. The block kings on death lane. Not Worried about Aachen obviously tank tank Myers to the stuff here like bears and not gonNA damage me But they're gonNA hold objectives. Say the other thing is with both really slow armies and getting to those first middle to middle objectives. I ten for other of us is going to be really hot Block King's water four inch five inch move players four inch flag monks. Maybe a six inch other So yeah it's GonNa be it's GonNa be difficult for both of us Luck obviously I can spend discipline point to make strange extra my unit sigh of probably got the better chance of getting to those middle ones says tiny who's also got the wheel to add territories moved. Yes if he gets the royal also he can make roll of a six Yes Hey can spend a command point to make a seeks But I think with the objective so I If you put your model rod at the tip of that point and to that first objective I think you nayed eighteen inch move to get to it to within inches On I think it's Danishes a way to get at that. I need you just just on the seventeen inches away. So yeah you need to. You need to run role of the six a six inch move to basically guarantee yourself to get there. Yeah say hey mark. Get one of them. It's if if a was if they had moment in a he got his to begin to that middle. I ten. It's GonNa be really odd to me To get him but look. I think it's going to be a bit of a slap fest is fought This could obviously just vice di DI stuff. That doesn't Dr at I. Had you guys say gone already. Know what I think I just feel like negative lost a bit spies. Look he's got to snuggle. He can screen out the bears which ought to kill Iran. The kings aren't going to do much at all And he's Motta wins in this. Doug list is actually fairly minimal. It's John I think it'd just be a case of CEOS. It's the blight. But he's gotten away at your You'll stupid to Ryan Pace. We'll make that which are played nergal and even a seven. I feel like that's odd to get all just come down to who controls. The objected suggest Yup look can get my stolk made a fair bit. Quite easy on one Just getting the run role for the Samaya. Motech God for the other side or whatever. Yeah so what is the courts for in this list. Missing suddenly hate. Czar play joining hates. He uses aprons braves. Because it has an extra artifact and also he wants to use. The homage decays Command ability and also never compatibility so he wants to go to set performing once episode. Let's so you can make a lot of blocks in the plight bears. We put it on. The floor is they might be linked to in. La Nick for shooting. Yes so he wants to do it on that and then also he wants to make the biking's like fiberboard is what he wants. He wants the cake and eat. It is pretty much what he's going to sound like these scheduling absolute grind bought way. Assuming a guessing I guess the Jordan doesn't have the bottle wound output to down material. Is that fair assumption? I thinks I am Oregon. It two and a half hour rams this game together. Tom Just purely by chance drawn. Yes the radicals can get dom I've met you. Yeah I described Matt enjoying it because he was a message in Jordan. Better Describe it like he's Globeop BETTA energy ability when like no-go about a year ago pretty much was like dad being durable in D- Matz Amish Newer NBA. So yeah. Yeah. He's very gray units. I E accomplishing something stupid. The death would do top frequent. He's wrote against like you said he could do mortar wearing he does day. Three on a number of units. You can describe the back. Think finagle in this kind of environment. I think it needs to guy more of the Amish I'm waking up to negative fall. Montesano Nama and if you did that then I'm blocking so just be tearing you up but it's definitely not that list. I think this this list was the same list that he took his first tournament. And which she I think he heard. Em The wave came came third Bottles yes I think. This is a bit of an image to the to the list that he took to to start out his tournament career. Then get by bringing into masters as well so it just move forward with the lost battle. Royale The last Bachelor which Races Legion of as goal. Which is going to be the Bulls Central TOROK REGATTA? Which is the General? Which has the command trait of grotesque and the artifact of Armagh of Blah Blah Blah We have the Damon Smith. We have Epitome interesting now. Why Choice we have thirty funnel? God that five ten five five blades. Twelve could I five born? We've got a skull Krecko we've got a magma cannon and AMAC McCain. We've got the bridge sets to K- That is GONNA come up against Schmidt Campbell Campbell's running the blades of corn. Which is go reaper? Vengeance we got the wrath of Cohen Blood Duster which is the general the Meiji Ada Command trait the skull shod. Mantle was the artifact we have a bloodthirsty incessant range with the amber glaze we had the bloodthirsty Alvin Fed unfettered fury with Crimson crown. We have a skull. Takeoffs loaded priced We hit which has frenzy. We have a Bud Secreta. We have five flush ounce fly fishing five on five flush out five freshfields to five five and then we have the targets of blood coming in nineteen. Eighty two men points so maybe quick round Robin We're GONNA GO MATT's blades of corn verses races. compendium not a real army. Hashtag however you want to the Legion of as I like Matt Scott this Against run run nice to two units of flesh stands up Grub the objectives if he's given I turn Tixx And then he sorry blood us. Is we own. I what I can do and what I do. We've turned to blood motajo sides. It's a very very tough lacy. Nice had apply it well Also a one size flesh hands to be dying to get those blood toss so he can get extra moves freeze blood test all all that sort of Jazz Look it's going to be very tough. Match-up Anaya. Racist Racist got a bit of shooting. So that'll help him. But I think if Matt Smart He's hauled Mars to be stuff at a range I turn anyway so I think it's Matt Scott. Game to lose to be honest arts may think Matt who else who else will stick with the ring allows I You not unless Jaw Oregon but boy russ is going to shoot all of that stuff off the table and win one pace. Yeah I reckon he is very soon. He's been playing them for the bid up pot of two years. And he's flinching this list and he's style towards it full a very very long time and I met in the same bite with his cone but I think Cohen have lowest ceiling chips. Do Okay so he got one. A pace I reckon that. Tash e choice to shoot madoff type Gel said and then those could die a bell tests fop and they fly might alistair dies a blood this he's got maybe one But are anything even took the plus one site look. I'm not gonNA tear apart. Matchless Kasese list is amazing. It's proven by those cadogan eight up says he's got fifty shooters plus cannons. He skull crackers Djeich End If Cohen go up and sit on those objectives at the just GonNa get shut off thing. This is the Castell scam interesting. And and Joel Graham in the chat saying he reckons. Trolls can do it as well as the sole screen bridge so interesting coal out Ash. What are your thoughts? I think the Green Bridge is unlikely at costs game Yeah I think I think with the with the scenario it's going to be as go very dependent on who takes the fest ten because I think if Matt goes fast with the amount of extra On those flush with Meta host He could sign off the board pretty well and just get positional on the objectives as he needs to but then that said the shooting from the choices joke. So I'm again depending on a few days roles with the magma cannons if you can get some lucky sixes on those guys into a Festa yet it's GonNa be. It's GonNa be really interesting. I think I want to call this one either way. I think this is going to be one of the clancy games in that first round are so we got two people on the side of race that one person on the side of Matt. We have ash who doesn't WANNA make coal? He's down the Middle Lane. Where you at with this? Yeah I'm you guys GonNa hate me but Not Not just. Because he's a club bank or anything because he plays it's map Just we'll practice and yet you has talked about shooting. Listen stuff but like racist. GonNa shoot him off But Matt Snow Jake when it comes to like measuring in zoning out to avoid that as much as he can And also those shots off no Like Niger so good for what they do. And it is a movement game ominous Fill that role. It's not a shooting game. It's not forty kind So the Cadila to this twelve gossip can move fourteen inches in charge. Yeah so that's one unit and he's Scalp and mascot five of that so I reckon it's going to be close guys but my votes map. Good good good unbiased opinion. They're fine. Let's stories game. Well yeah if I if I fortunately. Nick is stretched with that activity So that's there the lists and very interesting? I think we got some listening to questions. We'll go through kind of wrap up with Who's GonNa win it so I'll take the first one. Let me take the second on. The first one is at least Cola. A friend of the show McEwen McEwen and he offs. Do you consider your army to be a metallurgist ACCOUNTA- medalist or `gate-keeping list Do you do you have another category that you would find yourself in. So how do you? How do you see the list that you're submitting Dave start with yourself. How do you say a u? Medoff CANTAMESSA mitigate capable something else cut nme upside down see. Yeah a dime think. I'm medoff off the Anti Meta Cape official. 'cause it's definitely polarized if you can deal with the the Steinhorn Sir and the I N Guts. Then you've got away to deal with it that If you die than and yet it's GONNA walk. I have a a lot of combat. Omni's as well so I'm coming for you men Joel Joel. How do you say your list? Well everyone's GonNa sign the Omitted List Fed A spin off of the of medalist so I I've Jumped ahead a thinks in them. So I like a day of the King of the the deactivation woes route with the likeness. All I think the mindless is the king of Kings I just unfortunately Shaami's Day. Yeah that's where Awesome Matt Knew Army. I think it might end up being the Meta at some stage but It's it's Ne- I just picked it because it's and it's death and I played. I don't probably probably make leading into Kaanai. I imagine it's going to be a whole bunch of burn. Raker armies. Yeah Yeah Aviator have the tools to deal with that high yet. You Not Gonna be able to get through it yet. How ABOUT YOURSELF AMBUHL? I designed the list to be Gay Kepa. But it's turned out to be Kinda Canada with all the armies of the bay so yeah. I think it's landed as Canada and do in before onto the next question asks Yeats WanNa quickly define or just give people a bit of an idea of what a `gate-keeping list would be versus a guess Accounta- mental would be sure so say for instance let's take the Binary Pos so they're a great example of a gay capabilites. Because if you have more wins you can take them off the bullet if you don't. You're going to struggle or if you don't have high rent you'RE GONNA STRUGGLE ANSWER. That can catch a few armies off God And if you the way. The the gatekeeper works is that it's not likely to win the tournament but it might stop some of those strongest from getting through to round three or four on the top tables. Thanks sick So this next question is pretty much targeted towards Matt and Dave. Sorry this is from a front of the shy anyone bringing one of the new books to the masses. What attracted you to the new army that you'll comfortable enough going away from what you've got to democratise status to being with site debut kind of gave us a little bit of insight into this but if you want to expand on it more like what made you decide like what made you feel comfortable to bring. August mazdas to defend your title gamble to be honest. There's a lot of other armies out there. I think that would have been in a more comfortable position. I K- I fly sliders. I think if I'd taken fossilized art feel very confident. I I really wanted to play destruction for this and I don't expect to win this one nor got a wish. Should scientist is destruction? Your excuse like the end of it you like our destruction are now. Just blame it on being bad the all-talk it'll targets right on the Chin. Who HAVE A BASEMENT? Baits me and it's it's a low temp able which is a bit disappointing The ten pretty good people. So Yeah Gable. Nice map is the Gambler as well My other option was Site was GONNA apply death. Think no matter what But my other as alluded to earlier milder lists that up implying this year so to change did anyway. And look anew those definitely GonNa be one slash Bang Jal and thought was gone as well so I thought it was gonna make to slash and I knew my death army doesn't deal with just if on not striking fast and against slash. My my death army normal death army was just going to die was just GonNa get walked off the board so to Tiga Nami. That doesn't tend to get a lot of the forties sorta mind little chance of Surviving to turn three and a gaming and SLA national something a lot but So that was Kinda my idea behind it. It's probably not the rod ideas. Fires denied neither. Yami that well. I haven't played that well But look all my other options. We've got painted and stuff at home. I just don't think had that competitive in awfullest This is probably as competitive is sort of Izaak. Appeal picking up from pints. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Y'All definitely one of the people that I'm GonNa be messaging nearly all the time Broadway holiday going because I really want to see a good result and I think of some heart complaint again be very curious on how day goes as well so make sure to keep their socials updated hundred percent on the next question. The next two questions from the same person So the first one this is Michael Thomson He said when it comes to results. Do you think it's your ability to write a list or the ability to play the game So pretty much is pretty much saying like is it Yami List that makes you pretty much win the game or is it skill it can be both in a way so Joe What do you think been earlier in this in the strain that then Lissa Largely irrelevant at in a in the masters. I think when you woke up to title you actually going to be applying against the pass. Nafta SEAN at that's my opinion on on on Rove at obviously lists out sent mighty technology that can't be sorta just can easily by cite medalists ashes list excluded here. Obviously then gay at you by sleep. Just add flying in Seattle personal across the table rather than the models that are actually owned the title exactly. Yeah I got a pretty polarized opinion on this. I think that lists in IOS currently On a big deal they might be down the lower end even the bid. Pack of Ornament Is this two prime examples of this. That will back out my statement one. Is Dan Brew Janet? In Sydney? He can run some pretty shitless that other people will be able to use and does well with them and then The cantopop in Queensland would be day Matthews and Hanes absolutely gabbage mixed destruction lists but he comes paypal So yeah out on. Thankless has a thing you really need to worry about unless you're having for the toll. I think probably garage. Yeah I think definitely the the middle play middle table players Will rely on a good list to get them through the middle tables up to the forum. One category and any top players will. It'll it'll come down to players go basically. Yeah so while I was GONNA say to backup Dave is I played. I have played Dane and he. I'M NOT GONNA lie. He writes wait. Destruction lists when I played. I was like some weird old school oaks list. He had even had the weaver and he had a double. Yeah yeah and I was just like this is weed. And then he pretty much. I was playing any Messing up real good. I can say that he must be real goat and good so I can back you up like this does not make sense. Should not be happening but it did. Do you think they both go? Hand in. Hand like a Semi I'll applied at that much. That always ray riding it all the time so and in the end. I had a good lease that I'd written Obviously it's not at least I got off the net. Asuncion night myself but it the more you play it the better general you become anyway but then you've got a good list as well like I think I sort of go hand in hand quite well but I think if you're just starting with an army As as dive assigning a mole comes down to the general die for example. I think a lot of his results toys. Different armies playing at tournaments. He's doing and he's doing well all the time so it's not like you could say he just plays. Cayo story just plays destruction and nothing else I. It definitely depends on the person but I think it a good plan that plays a list a lot will will be a goodly. Straw if automate say yeah then. Try and play in the chat center really points like knowing how to use your least to win in any battle plans are going to be the m the expression all been using for this particular conversation as dime played list. Play a game. That's referring to yourself with that site. You should win. You want to a table like top level wall Hameed surely ninety. Exactly what your army does. You shouldn't have to look at rules or anything and then you should just be able to play the game better because of that because you focusing on what's happening on the table rather than what's happening rules. Yeah exactly and one thing. You did mention Matt where I'm Dave is a good example but I think most of the monsters I kid you not everyone except for like two or three people off played different armies throughout the year and have done well with it like you got at night haunt Which she did really well with your divided on the show and Joe. You've played fifteen events and appreciate you played like fifteen different army lists that nothing was the same. Yes I And you've been playing the death but I think he wants to do. Some tweaks of your list of everyone has played like different lists throughout the year and have done quite well that starts commissaries but like the masters level players is not Craig list. It's Dave Dave took once but as early in the Tabriz You ran the The Duckling covince thing. Everyone's conic shown is more than just a least a play style. It's it's gain that diversity and getting experienced the table. Yeah exactly Next question is Chris. Says did they. Oh shift armies enlists around the recent releases. Or do they stick and tried and tested their armies going into monsters. Kind of answer that early when Alex Practice Games and stuff in the own answer that quite well. But I'm just came on Did you shift yummies oldest around the recent releases or have you tried and tested? Zombie out. Hips I've not played a game with this list. I was forced to shift this left around because of the because of the city's book but it does play very similarly but the list of implying with my diverted sigma so I've got experience with the units and but Yeah not so much with the list as as it is in this iteration because I think we've all answered this kind of question earlier. When have you guys practice any games? Bom ousters and at the ISO said Yes to an extent except I think yes. Dave has practicing games as well. Just just this year Ryen hoop is August being as the better as the MESSA is currently flipped on its head. And how does everyone feel of the ten mainly taking Shaami's thing you try to say Out Your Niche Amish Armies in hopes to count the As we saw a few months ago site you guys ridden any army lists the better kind of thing you know you guys said you want your hyping for most Nash. But Ryan has disappointed. Us funny enough when you access this question. A did you guys think this is going to be a slayer army coming. Chaka's played fly. Sleigh is Through through the competitive year now I personally I didn't really as Should Bay but that's the I just knew I needed an army that could survive a bit more. And that's why I went beyond but I'm not really gonNA break the Meta on China Eight. Meta just that's just what I'm taking Look I was expecting another slash Tommy. The Bay but I'll never ran soda on medalists otherwise lines similar to have met runs. His armies like he's definitely for example So like while I am running. Slow Nations. Definitely not the typical snaps. I'm trying to catch people at. We'd some different taken. I want to actually show people what they're capable of them. Yeah that's a look at the site but that really. I think it's pretty obvious that everyone's taking I'm comfortable with rather than trying to count as something electron account of something say Fool's errand you've got a tax on the couch with and not Schayes with them being nation looking list. It's more like Lisera reflection of the blah. Anything else seems like we've already now lists to to be able to play into each scenario because there is the the scenarios that are possible over the weekend And that kind of ends up being a bit more of a a well rounded list rather than something that might be tailored towards the five scenarios. You know we're GONNA happen in an event that's actually a really coal so some of that international list is that's quite common. They announced the the scenario the battle plan until the day. Oh fifty minutes But certainly in the Australian culture we announce out battle plans off the list of mission but before the game so you you know well in advance potentially what scenarios you get a play so I guess to to win the masters. You need to be a thinking about how you'll your mommy list is going to handle all eighteen scenarios. One thing I also bring up. Think four of us on this dreams that I went to Moscow and I think we still have it. Everyone born on me that they were comfortable with. I think I was at Moscow's last year. Did you play their inflated? Whatever but I think we all brought army lists that were comfortable so kind of like you kind of say that every masters even the mosses before then everyone vote armies. They're comfortable with so on Dot Com on your army done which impressed wave saved impressed. That had like a moment of it to do it But yeah sick armed. Dana Dana Matthews Day has asked in very curious interesting question. A bit of a side question from this has ever on feel about travelling to Melbourne. So a bit of context the. Moss's across the country every first one was in Brisbane Sacramento in Sydney third. One is now in Melbourne too. How do you guys feel about travelling to Melbourne to play? When there's only a couple of you guys actually from Melbourne Joanna. You're a little bit out of Melbourne but is only like one or two locals for Melvin Shoot the MAZDAS. Be Sit in a location based on the amount of people who have qualified. If there's more Queensland as it's based in Queensland To attempt to minimize travel you know. What are your thoughts on the rotating skype so far? I just wanted to chime in real quick. There was fought out of the top sixteen for Victoria qualified for masses. So I think by going off that we're actually probably up there anyway however in saying that I would have preferred if it was Bendigo instead of Elwyn machine personal preference because you offer bed Nico so people who are watching and look to site if for example. You just have it in Queensland H. E. Because Those Mall Queensland is then you're GonNa have the Victorian and the Sydney on's probably dropping out so I think we probably should try and look into having a centralized location for all three that easy to get to Chepe CHEPE is to get to The probably it probably is a good idea that it changes h. e. gives everyone a chance But I think also when it changes to the middle of the next time Easier for people to like. I think ban these Tommy as probably mole the reason why people aren't going than where it actually is And probably because where it is because people don't want to travel that far before Christmas I Audited and A. Hey Hey you change it especially And even Victoria that the starting to get a lot more applies to on a lot better players into time Victorian and South Street in that they could have could have the majority and And then if you've just go to in Queens Nha then that that majority might not be going. Because it's too far to travel. Cy I think you need to be automated. Random bit give everyone. The opportunity Dan and it does it. Builds bill to communities in is all the sites as well. Sorry Gosh you're talking to Dave. I'll just going to ask you used his this third masters. He's obviously played locally in Brisbane. He's now traveled to Sydney now travelling to Melbourne. What's your observations being? You've been to all three now. I guess the vote kind of felt the same really. I mean being in Brisbane where it was hosted in. Brisbane was about ten minutes away from my house. I'M NOT GONNA say that was bad. I I really wanted to be in Adelaide next year. adult one. Sl missile sites only those statistics Really get anywhere else if they move it to Perth Tobacco idea. Guess Lao Gai to pass is really expensive to get these country. Now believe it exists. I think Lisa conspiracy theory this kind of leads into Rot Ryan. Who is asked in a chat and again prepare France on the podcast Ryan has said what do you guys think of having a state based Mazdas and in leading intellectuals championship so You know have you been will be more local that kind of feeds into a top. Maybe Ash I. What are your thoughts on that and the other day even in the the Gert? I'm well I guess the same questions still comes like way. They held the Australian championships. And I think even just logistically it becomes difficult for the tires to To have five different venues say for instance and have them locked in months in advance then all of a sudden cancel on four of them because the majority of people are going to be playing in like for instance. If what what happens if the majority of people end up from the Adelaide Sane and then at means you have a lot more people travelling and yeah I think from the perspective of doing state-by-state Mouses. I think at that would be fine like it would affect the Australian Moss's but it's more about whether the logistics of of doing a master's in the location that The majority of from is that that's kind of where it becomes a bit of a problem. cannot jump in a lot. Everyone complains about traveling. Fatone amounts Luck where I live. It's a minimum a minimum three hours from any luck. I think Charles. Bendigo is probably the closest tournament for us from And then cameras the next and then anyway from there we go to fly anyway luck on traveling for every tournament. Anyway like anyone is really gonNA wind about it. I just after travel. Anyway look is punishment for Randy Randy from Hey he manages to get himself to a lot of tournaments and traveling for all of them Rocky from Canes he travels around Australia Lock. It's probably an expectation that there is some level of of Travel involved to become a master's level playoff doing it. Maybe in your local patch. Maybe he's not enough. Yeah possibly I. I'm not trying to create a war between. Why don't you think people should have to travel on not sign that at all under sighing point of view? A lot more point of view where I do have to travel pretty much every event then from Moscow than for me to have to travel masters. It's not an issue lock. It's just something that you know. That's just pod impossible familiar with tournaments anyway so as county boys different to the the city by the truck run. We used to drop in the three four six hours to go somewhere. Doesn't says is management as blacks in the cities on drop twenty minutes to go in some way. Might if you'd like to get five minutes away instead twenty minutes et. Cross with a small in twenty minutes. So what am I doing it? And that's the other thing like what people sending the chat lock Mice delays major cities have a direct flight between major cities like Obviously Aubrey does flawed. Flawed Melba. If we gotta get to Brisbane it's to at least two flights Or if dr it's Thursday now is or something ridiculous that on not going to do for weekend tournaments. I yes sorry Beckham. There is lots from indicate to Sydney in back near so. Wow there's no excuse for Pushbacks I was on that flight off to be honest. And and you know. We'RE NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE AREN'T TRAVELING. I think it's it's Charen within the community that we know we literally spoke not long ago about running down to Adelaide to support Jimmy darkness with J. So It certainly that but I think a really good point is that know we have. A lot of us are very fortunate in that position to be able to easily find ourselves in another city via direct flights so Not Alone position to travel. We have family restrictions and certainly things like Christmas at is is a very expensive time in a year in a very challenging time for certain April. But I'd like to think in the next competitive season when we're looking at a master's around July July carnival August Twenty twenty one. Hopefully some of these restrictions of of been reduced sick. Yeah or I was going to say quickly about the championships like I think it's a good idea. I'm a spacious got sixty months to wait for the next masters maybe next year if someone from each state or whatever the Maas Committee just WanNa run in event something would be swayed But yeah now. Elizabeth is on the chat. I think still. She's which player would you hit in the knee to eliminate from the tournament? Because you worry about the list. They upbringing and in all seriousness. Do you have any Preparations or rituals for good lock. That can give you before tournament. Jodi owner of poisoning psych-out. I'M GONNA take out gels second day off onto the next buddy pot. Gang Jarl is nothing refreshed career online. handle it and I have never done that roll taking Joel Out. Not May a modern involved from taking out by Joel is is being need and captained and taken out honestly though I'd probably Huddle Matt if I could select that level of play Can Cause problems for all of us said she saying why the Nays wild the hands. 'cause then how can they guys We would you with an APP with the dice up DART. Okay some of mead. Maverick meet Megara. None of that should not against it on but any good rituals anything where you guys like. Kinda do just hype. Everyone's just like now. We do not do that. Not Fo- drinks drinks his head like full canes restraints. That it's just one of these damn on twitter guy fallen at some way to add Dane. Dan Super Bowl has put up a at twice. Scientists are you guys. GonNa add like a morning ritual or whatever before tournament at. I'm not gonNA site on. It's been appropriate appropriate. But go on that twice as fun. Isn't that just an every morning? Ritual ritual ritual was. Get up make breakfast and lunch before getting up. I D channel. Joel Onsang Guy Phone. The tweet in the interests Bilas One Army I mean one question from Matthew Timothy Oxygen Pick one Amish Boffin which would obey and what changes would you make to make that army stronger or more competitive in the current environment? Forty I think so I would get it. Get A on. What you're doing to Mike Slash Bitta. Rod is being reduced the effectiveness of the likeness right. And then you drop the points of fame at sixty points and then suddenly hundred percent bit of a gray feigns we do. I think I like them one. Sixty like she'll or up on you Greta Damon in a seeks up on normal. Here's some sloppy. It Guy. Three at five reduces the effectiveness. It's enough not mind. The like is to be honest. The does the depravities what what gets me rectify if you spend out Olea depravity at one in one guy so you can only put one caper on the table. Then that sort of Selva love appropriate. Did the reasonable sizes of mine. The reason why slash ISCI strong in my humble opinion as slash black is because of the likeness on site. You reduce the effectiveness of the Lakers at you. Reduce the effectiveness of double calling from the Cape of because your pilot has more engaging experience to then attacked you and damage. Thankfully kill you before you get to all in twice and then because of that happening You get Previti Point Generation and will you heroes. A debt has the likeness isn't reliable. Just tweak the Lakers can when on ten three hundred and ten depravity and that's good because if the life is wasn't Paul and may kill you stuff. It'd be a different story. I I do. The one degrees make great again That was the smallest but I loved And when I was I was quite upset but I was packing up. The veins. Got Fifteen of those where we shoulder just the one that makes happy to hear. Miami's it odd think of Saliva quick tonight maybe. My blood clots some inaudible again and make a salt vandamme Tampa on foot lex rouse astros. Something similar I can around that Ash Yeah look I mean I think most of the books In a pretty good place save days There's not really anything that you've made it lose because you've taken the army anymore. The only thing You may be looking at is putting a bit of a boost on Some of the less used a citizen And that sort of thing within the agencies so like like the crate from Kane and And that sort of thing like not the allegiance itself but the some of those Those books whether it skewed to one list Dave Kaya Kaya. Neda rewrote entirely buffum. Stay Change I my hottest storm cost. 'cause I do like stone costs. Phoolan little bit away arguing with Asha. I think I need to do is actually improve the internal balance of books to move away from the singular sub factions that are always implied. Anthony medically great again make what I grow again. Liberal rates holes off. Did you say Dame's tweet? Yeah I did but it's been a long time. The thought that liberators were the baseline for everything. I O S and used to see them anymore makes me sad And Julia Chatterley role. I agree Demons massive wrench Damon Army. I love them and make them good outside of the chain shows. My answer is going to be very unpopular. And the way I'm going to word this is about. Yeah say so Venice of shoot those pain Jersey. I want them to be more skillful to play it. Make sense like I feel like it's too easy and I want them to be fixed so it actually skilled plant in similar to like what Jones said about smash lawyer when for example Hag. Nah It can be the rerunnable ability where they can. Rewrote fanatical faith and then. The five thing can be appraised only one unit can get it like if they can switch that around Had Not seen people take the other ones because they can have the five of them that one unit if I take drake you whatever and stuff like give people like. Don't make it too obvious that makes sense. We great and I just want and I think daughters the Kumano range on but at the moment to easy and also Marathi is busted. And I've had like everyone both Lizzy Lockhart She said bring back the wanderers but more importantly the wo- dances. I miss those days. It'll would afford they cope but yeah that's really. I mean to me I can't I I always put it in the stream earliest so We have we have wrapped up with the last of the questions and I wanted to provide any of you. Opportunity Locker Wrestling Promo. I'm GonNa put you on full screen if you want to do this to to either promote yourself and say while you're GonNa win the Van Trash Talk. Your opponent very fundamental them make them cry Does it do they? Don't WanNa tell till the the old why they're gonNA win monsters and like stay. Rotten barrel. The Cameron and cut you promote aren't divy. GonNa this is GONNA be extreme. Dave Dave the mango Mafia. The back-back master himself why you'RE GONNA win this figure out when the cameras brought My first game because my first guy is basically Already Iva to walk through this mission probably the West list going. It's just going to be all up and go checks no comments. I met this in the bag. Don't maybe said Said lack of Austa said like an absolute Mazda track which maze. Nothing's GonNa stop the monster designing a retorting Say they sense bringing Joe Era. Well I'M GONNA win because I'm running the coach Slash Amee Accurate Matt GonNa Win. Because nowadays mommy does and different and what it does. But that's our auto working out as the waken guys now out to kill me. I'll be just standing there with all on it in game every game laughing face. Yeah love now. Ashes looking really awkward. Like place that look at me. I don't WanNa say you. WanNa do it ash. Yeah I can. I can wrap it up with this. Oregon. I'M GONNA win 'cause no one knows. Miami does either It'll also shoot off the nationalist. So Yeah we've got track not not being there. I think we're pretty good right. I love how this always Mazda level players of all said pretty much. I'm scared of guard. Trek and by God is not really wanted to but I think he's at debuted. It really won't go trick in the upper weekend. Yeah he's boss era. He's really good. That's the reason why took to the exalted. Charity Floyd I'd see Malkin's that's why I've got as well. Yeah I think we. I think we got a nice way to wrap this up. We've got to request one from Elizabeth asking for a macho man voice. Anyone WanNa take a stab at doing the Joe man no you don't. I just did it again. Full screen again host green you again. I wanted to do something I want to do. The whole Cogan. They WanNa take a step at whole kogen. I'm GonNa Brother and you know what you're GONNA do. When the two-time Mazda is coming wild at United Really Bad. I'm not a hawk fan who that was really bad. I'm the rock. I'm all about the rock. Bet guys this has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you very much for joining the Stream. I wish you all the best of luck. You guys have five fantastic games. I wish what have you become the Mazda or retains pasta? I'll be very curious to see who How you guys go who you matched up way. Then and what that outcome is Is there any shoutouts? You Guys WanNa make if people wanted to chat to you further. Where can they find you on the Internet's dive you are? Are you retired all guy? Shout out to boys in Mega Mafia. Obviously the Brits McCurry if you guys are looking for a really good event in Brisbane Arken Chrysanthemum. Boys put on the best tournaments in Queensland and A- forgotten. What else am. I got to best best of luck and I'm looking forward to to seeing older photos with your shoes off and you house debts. I'll be passed. Anson it up. Big Time JAL COMING FOR AN ARGUMENT SHEDS LA boys as well the better than the mango mouse yet. Admission Gaming yes I reckon we run the best moments in Victoria on the enough and the God's said Bush radio I listen to podcasts. I watch a battle reports on On Youtube as much a graph. Mj onto them fantastic wobbly token clubs. We want we'll bring up ash all right. Yeah I'll give a shout out to clan filth Where one of the most competitive clubs in the whole sane said I think that's been proven to Next one let's say some of those some of those teams spirits coming to to the tournaments. We'll see if we can get some competition going there But I'm also I'm also ashes. Underscore McKiernan on twitter. You can find me there such a nice person. You can't argue with that you like I wanna be mad at you mash but I can't you such a nice person finally mail if when you not I kissing babies looking old people and shaking their hands during the marrow. Judy's where can they find you on the Internet on twitter facebook Pretty easy to fall on shed at to the border long game incurred from Albro. Donga twitter. Handle on you'll you'll probably put on an eighth this video. I'll put it all in description on the podcast and on the I'll do thanks land. Where can they find you on? Low like bats at shadow hammer underscore on twitter on facebook Amazon Page my name Liam Brennan Blue. I get a message. May Ask you for list advice. Or whatever and I'm on their shirt clearly and that's pretty much it also shot at the client bill. Well the great great great great are GonNA end this with learn train. Play has has said something. I'm not going to mass associate. But I'll say finally the coach house come back to the hostas talk show. 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Talkin' Blades of Khorne w. Mark Wildman

AoS Coach

1:42:07 hr | 2 d ago

Talkin' Blades of Khorne w. Mark Wildman

"Guys it is the courage champions trying to rebrand. I'm trying to say champions gate champions. It's iowa's cards are hype. You're getting all of the blunt tied. That was a really bad truck. I'm here with mark. While based formerly of bad is You seem around the traps. But most importantly the men nurse he's cohen and i quickly switch out in a market and if he noticed criminally. Let's say the ten by what. I thought we were going very. Eddie we Chef you went nintendo Matching well. I thought i thought it's a play on words because one of my favorite bands is cone bunks. But we're talking blades cone way. I was reading here. Because i want to talk to mock because mock so. I've had a few people you know had pat nevin hat matt campbell. Talk about cohen. And i wanted to another opinion on how you get the most out of cohen and mock has a very good track record. You you went night that bye-bye you've done. Six itself goes jay obviously conscious indicating locked down for some time. Now so It's not like being winning. A whole bunch of jt's in the last twelve months brought a winning wing rock enough. But i want to know how you'll thinking about cohen. I think the meta has changed a lot. And in the last time played back campbell with corn magic. Dominance was starting to come back. You know nick gash was starting to get out the machine gun again. Hallo hot was kind of only up since then since lockdown. we've had checklists. We've had news inch we've had Luminous this sorry much has kind of happened that i feel like It's a really good time for colin but before we get into that mock get i welcome introduce yourself other than being the man. The mouth got howdy ancient. Jesus off at seventy different incarnations of starting off in bad dice which people don't know about any bowl. That's that's just a. Do you know about that but many people. I think that it's herenton scenery. Dice at the moment you get back on the streaming body. I try to try to get into to be one of my guests. But he's opening A super successful businessman. He's electric company now busy for us now as a scheming. Ed's god yeah. I didn't walk up. applying tournaments Before all these yourself through podcasts on youtube we were. we were rightful. The time of many making it is now. I mean we were too early. And you know you see type of tactics. And titans dailies yushi. Earning thousands always. We're just rolling in bank block. One dial do like a. What was that show called. Mtv cribs craves man. In you know it looks like a humble setting he got bart's mansions and this is just like my my small studio that detaches to my massive mansion. Scott such a strange strange Where the scenery change of wolfgang online. An how assistant gets workshop nephew. Seven o'clock presence We the drummer games. Saying you need it. You need a negative things changed but yeah so yes. I think so bored. Thrum were but we did it. Fortnightly like Like about sixty episodes four nine Years it we'll older A children's everything just Before you start but you know. The game has changed size of exchange nowadays. Don't miss it. I miss the the commitment to really polish the show. Release barack make a job out of it. E breathing living it May now as still enjoy playing the game. Passively goats tournaments social side vet as supreme pole the yet but i still like whenever play gains. Always like okay. I i wanna take different list Bit sillier but at the same time. If i take to stabilize billable tables inefficient content joy that area in event. I lots bake competing the talk in hawaii so it was whiteside talking about building New york show is. That's really kate. In the league upside agree important. now it's awesome. It's a teaching because welcomes mock eligible to mock as well because why Man i got tomato flooding glory older. Jeez ago but But you've seen the changes through the gain your fantasy battles fly you've seen the early seek ma is still playing dice. Yukon insane the evolution in how you say peaks and troughs and it's usually through the opportunity to go rhino and his challenged with rossville web. What people are doing with slash book is the grabbing a list that they had previously and trying to force it into a metal or force it into a book update and expecting the same results. Been this way this show is gonna come into play where the guy right Cohen cohen has got some new opportunities. I love flesh hands for example. I think there's a real pechiney. Fistula shouts all goal pilgrims. A of cool things. That are very anti magic. That would work really well and be a real pain. The office for those take. Listen friends and we will talk. Lists and It's great to have you on the on the channel and again Shoutout to poet as well for the shin much appreciated by friend a costs asking who destroy. Curry's what i i mean. I would just walk him from the channel volume the view then a blocking light up before we get into the into the rules in the list. I wanted to own understand. Why cohen of all the chaos gods. What drew you to this particular faction and what have you enjoyed. And what's made you continue playing the army compared to picking up one of the new this song that you've already mentioned him going to go back. Risk fail back. Tokyo seeing games. Through the times. I played rhys a chicken slower than a Remember when he brought cullinan. I had out. I think it was on. It was not exposed. Lights chromebook is another. Before and i he literally had this like msu taipa in Around me ten one in the old these options loads of different threats on the house like this looks really fun. Just meru combat you sit in the back. Shoot somebody but this thought behind it as well so it's not just a. I'm gonna get my big bro moving forward. That was lots of tho- around where he characters where he Counter-punches counts charges score units. Things like that just really enjoyed the cia That at that point i was like i wanna get saami you play against somebody I think on jefferson the army to me. I don't know why the everyone leads to an army. Well done i n. He's down to individual personality but Really explain why. I think i think is the speed of the army. I really enjoy the possibility of speed. And how you can enjoy playing the game on the fold the remake the summit since that. Sometimes you get all the way you sit around your belly the sit around there really move sheet your opponents whereas just reading joint These movie on hit a witness students got only different aspects so that there was in the new book that was the priest the press. So you have you'll magic version of magic so you have that d- lack of issuing. Yes did that man. It's the gains but being people's grilling funds. I think i could take a head. But i call. It would be really if it was a shooting me like if it had like bliss bob arches style of like unless it was super cone. Like that would feel weird to me. I mean they got the sco- callans in the interesting be shoehorned into I get that a company like the idea of some thing announces shoot but actually i prefer. I would prefer with new books coming on. Would more folks of being hitting the harboring combat us just a bit more enjoyable. But when i split accent the night edition i would be really scrappy with them. Is each one event for on me from events. The border that only student on this this I was a bit of a gauge. St with mommy styles colon As soon as i degree like planning list designing had fun doing Big learning of doing match control grout land but applied ethics solidly for eighteen months tournaments. An infant. a that that that staying power was not really wrath me so sad for me to stick with an army solidly crazy out artists. So i thought the white just egypt leads him with me really well dante. I love reds so always a big fan. Although at blood and glory are missing someone with a blew blunt later when those the old mode harvest and they look really cool as well like i see blood lettuce. So don't cry arthur. Was the color scheme locking. I really liked that look really nice. I want black okay. You're probably not say olma my age damon's on unkown demons and i was gonna start negative but it's literally like the inside of the modern is black knee outside yellow lipoic stickney effects black and yellow is complete contrast color so literally my mind mild lamis completing also the. You don't have to get rid like obviously read is is corn But limited here it could be a demon from a upon the realm and it's adapted or whatever it might be but i really lock it. I love plata's. That's that's probably not moment and i'm studying become more timmy. Actually like goggin just bought double of the the the lizard man celestial stan aids And things like that. The idea of having like just blockbusters. The dog goes and things like that. Like you know tarisa blonde Or even i think they deterrence blood The the stocks blood fest ever bit on like i meant to being like the the of destruction. I'm just gonna his full-time they'll hate you on. Foles said but the the that talian condo made it work. Didn't it did. Yeah absolutely absolutely are Dancing around the rules. I wanna get your perspective of how you look at the allegiance right because you are assays veteran very experienced days. I'm picking up for the first time. And i'm looking through my book and i go every time i kill a unit or unit dies on the table. I get something plus time and at one point out during the battle low multiple times during the battle. I can spend those points enter. Thinks cool intellectually get. That's the big thing for corn. Yes you get the look fury. Guess you've got the rest of the advertising and other things you can do but the big. The big thing that called brings to the table. Other than the units in the synergies in the battalions and all that good stuff is blocked tied. Yeah so as a as a as a season veteran for someone who has been on top tables who has has almost one j. taste and things like that had flood tie. How does it impact your list building. Like what are some of the thoughts that come through your mind maybe you tell me as a sparring co employer. I think i would start off with the fact a bit of a swiss army knife. Billy and people look at it. Is i mean me personally are all using more summoning but just allows you to go. Okay this is a situation on. I'm in a really is good examples. It's like a need a calm but just number one off the bat that you spend top. Let's talk what you get. Come on and that could be the difference between winning or losing game in A point but it's just the seventy eight like so many Different options within conquer rome. I think this is issues with In sense of Power creep of new books and other books can do bad things and so is putting that to one side Are just think it allows you to respond to different scenarios. And i think that's probably one of the biggest joys of the book so i need to go nuts rewards table. You've got something so you can get a councilman stuff on youtube. But actually if i want to parliament's again a can again will i want you making a move with some captured objective. Just go all of these different abilities which you got you the back of your head like you could be could be light in. I'm the wrong side of the board but unexperienced twelve inches. That way for now do that. Or i want some stuff some of the united states that so i just think that that is the key point. Is that so flexible to use in sony. If it's scenario is in the game said to pinpoint exactly how you use it rid scenario the moment you're in that particular game the list building though could you right like like you're one hundred percent correct What i haven't got on the table here folks is that there are two blood tie tables. The first one is a set of ability. So you can see here on the on the screen. If i spend one tight i could get myself. A command point been chew blood tie. I can make a a. I can dispel automatically spell. That was cost. So i can start my putter from casting a spell if i spill i if i spent six points until the next phase each time a friendly was slain a pilot in attack move. So there's a whole bunch of abilities that can throw down but then on the other side. There is another table on the on the next page which allows me to split spain. My blood's high points to bring in bodies For two points could bring five blood latest. The fifteen points are bringing six fifteen blood litters for eight points. I could bringing a one of the three blood blisters. There's a whole is most of your demons. If not all of your demons are available for someone you got to tables and i think what mark saying he. The ultimate flexibility is depending on the scenario depending on the battle plan depending on the part depending on the round depending on like. What's on the table. Poli very good. Just play you. Don't have three things that you're gonna do this time. It's always going do three things actually on against the magic me so these are the five things i think might work really well in our flesh hounds on spills against You know not made said like. I think that's a really good swiss army not a if he'd tying shivering on me that just gonna destroy me but hey i you. You've got like okay outgoing to me. Twelve inches all alamein Awesome something within ninety something like that. It's just a swiss army knife ability whether or not it matches in the current meta is is a is a completely separate thing But it's still something view to be able to respond to a dynamic situation. Now i like it. I like any pal crepes in all. I think we're talking about that. we're talking about. How do we get the most out of spoken book and you know what happens. Outside of this book is out of control. All we can do is what we can do this particular book but talk to me about blood tie in your list building. Does it mean that you take multiple small units to kind of increase your chances with backing the day like back when people very first cohen are missing lots and lots of big blocks of thirty blood letters in probably the last two to three years. I haven't seen those speak blocks anymore. It's always been the multiple. Small units of ten mo four units of five dog. Doger's is it. Is it now rewarding to build smaller units to increase the chances of blood tie or dc benefiting taking big blocks of thirty. Say you can met her at your opponent and worry less about your own blood tie. Yeah i guess you. Roy i mean me personally. I'm very Mike When riley this must have i a bunch of small units generating blood side points to control both spice or just again. The why am. I might go to points. But the ident- won't something that is a big hit so generally don't go for like off phobic his not sit or food chaff basset. When i look at this might. I have tried to have just gone. Msi points My thoughts when done that is fun is good but because when you spend Party when you spend your blood taught points Want to spend full a loser late. So restricting factor of it. So i would go to the right bottles that are Generating points like in the regions of that. But then i'm like these big heavy units Who can seek benefit for those points might spirit of charges pure. 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Show is like if you fuckers to heavily on depravity. you're gonna lose the objective you know You know if you take a lot of arches in in slash Guys that is as an example if take office in i spent my tax too often just to generate depravity. You're gonna lose on the objective. You're not gonna be able to do enough damage to actually win the game. And then you're parted is going to join you and then summoning or your wants not to help you nothing to the point think about how you generate depravity haganah what you really need it for and it might be an and we're going to go through moxley silicon conduct with these into practice but it might have a couple of small. Msu will multiple It's stop off the depravity. That may be not going olean and just like all of my things just small units. You need hot. Heat has to kill take on your Msu just spoke to they when you the gang who could hold an objective right. Yeah you might summon them on the board for turning and captain objective. But i going to be able to retain it will not Probably ten wins twenty wounds. Most on a summit units are just. Just keep that in mind. I don't go too heavy on it. But one of the other things are gonna get is your Your terrain pace. It's like that It's an interesting one. i obviously. It's free run like it cost me nothing to take like. I feel like it's one of the least in tactful once when i compare it to other terrain paces. Unlike what you're saying is i think i disagree with you. I think the the which by the structure modest from for yes. That's that is. I would say if that wasn't it wouldn't even can just purely because with the way the game works is that we just say all right. Say it may. It may come into play a little bit. But if i'm back games like did i ever use half very rarely Now would hate we on france. Did i use that every game. Yes i did a that. Just yeah i think is really good just with him. Re rose again Boring automobiles dates back to the night. Edition strongest is back then It will be spirit. Dot co dot gals had re rose. Hi also every rose games run on. Radio's just brings that level of secure a bill lists and some of these slow pres- gang gang Game winning incense six jesse jackson's a try Did try around with the warriors can you do. It was twenty eight calm. such match unit saw is quite accurate. Gimme gimme ten seconds. Token is like a On those guys so three upon the save a big block like the tens the gains you get on the unit that size with free upon the is just rubbing hands together to be able to re role that foul. Play on a full plus. It's just like the successive getting off his raising. So i i think in limited size wise. And you've gotta work at unite ferry. Running prices may is amazing really Let me clarify my point. My point was that it's not useful. I'm not saying that. It's it's rubbish and hang when i think about things like the fame run i can summon from the fain when i think about the lunatron. I returned back problems from balloon shrine in are they certain things in these comparatively compare yet. Yeah even like the channel thrown from fleshy codes. I can i can summon without. Pay your ryan again. In the comments from scuola putin can summon from the scuola in in a bit slow traffic identified. Trust myself now set in but either way like well you look at that in the current which bane first off. It's hard enough tickets. Bills off right now. Right but even subtracting one soul for wizards Is a pain in the box. So many reasons they're getting in the middle of the table or trying to get around you. I mean it's not going to affect crow crew sitting at the back of the baltic during you. Have you skit that close to you. That's what that's what. Just i don't think is great at sixteen inches. You a decent by manage it show. I'm lucky if there's a lot of Like combat wizards as well right. We've got soul black coming back. So there's gonna be a whole bunch of empire loads on the may drag. Never rama's those types of creatures who are most to summit wizards as well I think for anyone who's looking at go pilgrims. The the real marshall focused praised heavy. I think people have forgotten how good go programs were at. They were abandoned existence for some time dating. You know and i think to to apartment behoove cooled out in the chat. Press right now. Don't have counterplay if i come up against you as a with all the praise account do anything. Don't take a price myself to on bind you'll prayer. It's like it happens or doesn't happen. Say that they can do their own prey. Unbelievably do the spell. Practice judgments. Yeah yeah yeah so you couldn't you. You know that was a five. Plus on by the ants some fun presley's just unite in a normal guy. You might you might cost it twice but with rerun three maybe four times in the game. So it's interesting how Ability can be so good is you're right you're going to compare it to other things might be may be. It needs a bit more of a somewhere along the lines of if deemed safe at half off the Just leo extra bits like if you some information Until something like that. It feels like needs little more. But i i was stunned by the way rose hundred percent. One hundred percents luckily strong. But if you if you're gonna take pristine. I really thinking about how you might be able to combine this will maybe incentivize you to take appraiser at least deploy you'll priests on or around To to tap into the would've hate. And i need someone could be quite interesting especially Especially in the metal moving towards. But i just want to take on On the terrain case. I think it's always interesting one way. Do i put my terrain pace. How do i make the most. It's always a question people. You kind of learn over time in like every battle every battle yet. One shot at the trump ace down. So how do i feel like were. Actually you deploy it in your heart your territories well yet totally within your territory so lawsuit people's graham cotton. Yes that means. He could be a lot more aggressive with it but then the challenge will be. Is you know if you try to summon from it If you've got to keep away from nine inches whatever. I know a lot know if he's pays particular. Has it just trying to keep it away from your opponent. So he's at that fine balance. Yeah yeah definitely or at least number one. I'm gonna timestamped days. Twenty eight minutes seles number and you're gonna talk you through truth ticu lists And you've you've created a diversity for us. And i know a lot of people in the chat already have been asking about the big bad himself. the ever chosen oxygen is gonna fate and someone. I think someone mentioned is cone. The home of Will find out what your thinking a minute. But in the meantime list number one is focused on the rapists of vengeance. You get yourself all things you get. You devoured the craven. You can get yourself. The may jada command trade. You're gonna get yourself leave non alive compatibility and you get the skull shot mantle artifact off which is given to the first the first hero. So you can't get around this. One are all four of these things useful. Some of these things taxes of these things. Things you build around Or is it. Are you taking a rapist full. Maybe one of and really liked double down. Maximize like y y rapists. I think with repairs. You take all four and you have full with joy every single one of us. The least the least useful insights least useful is the the bill is the dates remodels flay with with Aina also Damion citing months who I'm crossing with knicks becomes That will be least insight that he's still unite each you play against you play. Lots of I'd mess and they won't fleas. Md three on on the unit's gone little things like that so three. That's the worst but something is still used own song so that the united stunned out winners Especially to the two years ago talking about Changes maybe that's not the case with the model gs a trait again in the kurt marable spells. That is scary. Impact lights was just kidding visit. It's exciting one of the things Mentioned that when you plan. Cohen is the exciting elements of of like. When you're all night and you pick it up. Unite is gonna Have delivered of excitement game using the wasn't happen very often. Well well well. Well i play doc. This two years ago with my gets and he threw the heck's gorgeous skulls at me and in one magic phase. I roll to natural and pop basically all of my full wearing here wizard so Eight eight eight happens at title unit. Like it's happened because they do what they act afridi's happening. The of other i think are on an average role of twenty six a seven so It copy. i can't be too far off fifty cents away. But it doesn't ask about facile. I i think that's another one that coincide enables yet Just that it's staff threat. Any additional dispel united that Can put it on the Scope shot mount over again Knows foul. it's not like auditory type of any spell said the fact again strong with pinecone scaping were off press when you just a of lightning Wounding die Gold it just so strong For that one the why is one character. You tempt me. Talk to you about like my Why i put him on the best in the quantity again Fun twenty and you. Just i think for mesa coal. Some of the collected i would make rape is eventually ease with the devout craven. I think one thing as an opponent. When i look at that i think about that. I'm you know you might attack one of my My important units right and normally be quite confident for every ten not get an extra bravery my battle monkeys me. A bravery With some of the ability certain certain units will force me and ray romano battle shock That all of a sudden the risk of losing de three models. Especially if i'm running. Something with multi weren't winds five were mike evans have twelve. Were filers one. Gog and i fail about oh shot. That's an extra twelve ruins wounds running the table a kinda fault that so it might force being suspended. Command point a rayson. I didn't want to spend that as i want to risk it. I don't want to risk. It's a boom. You're drawing of me where i didn't really want to do it again. I say although i say is the worst i still think End so interesting news like is there any tax. Let you look like that. I don't. I wouldn't want that to be a mechanic in the game. Where you get your your your set of whatever it might be hosted so is an as attacks at won't look at all these four days under his tanks That iran like the fact is like a. It's not the thing that i really want like a perfect example is why squeak patel the wolf squeak battalion. The artifact is not nearly as good as the climbing cow will things that are. I really wanna take but this I think that the the anti magic talk of stuff being to really disparate. You need a command point. You've got to be up to you. Know spend one blood tidy for a say and if you need to to double pilot and you have the opportunity you know. You've got those results table. So there's a reason why rape is certainly very valuable again. Swiss army knife again You've got the ability to make mobile scan. When you put on the back foot wall you've got spills annuals about the fighting said essentially doubling down on what you can already do so you know. It's very cool me. Isn't it is so cooling circling skull. Shot nine will just takes me back to the one fantasy battles of the color of colon where he's like other care about magic like unkown. I don't care requests. Sita You little lady with fate on a rocky when i stop throwing things out of am number List one so this is the rapist of vengeance list and fun story guys the other lists that we're gonna go through. Isn't rape venue so we're going to bring in a different set of ideas so we'll talk about revenge because it's like i think people night redesign storms. There's no point cracking the whip. But the reason i brought this into the title is this is why enjoyed the most might tried and tested list. I worked really hard. include a Who i did a lot of loss of testing about really. What would loophole book came out. I really wanted to colon. And we must play ten fifty gains before it got to this point and Change was the rpm. So this is the new. I with the all six points so the document i had more. I think i. This goes heck score. Skulls and jimmy is well and i think i had some mobile trade is i think actually So all kim. This list smaller aukin was cleaning. Much better you need a lot more of the heavy lifting so it just balanced itself founded different people into the podcast or maybe they can't see screen. Just read out what you. What's in the list and then put some of the lease is that we just talked about into practice. Oh we all call reap vengeance. You've got yourself. big bad. Himself occupied the other chosen supported by blood Slowed appraised with the osbournes flesh. You've got your blood starts out with the skull shot mantle which we have to. We have a blood secreta. We've also got a blood test of unfettered fury. Which has the major in command trait and the crimson crown. In addition you've got thirty blood lettuce ten blood raves. Ten blood rivas tin blog. Rivas all three of the blood. Ribas have the Revved up in the dock face battalion coming in nineteen ninety with one seat pay no allies one hundred and ten words told me through because i look at this initially and i go crew. That's a lot of pointing heroes especially with kyun rot. Normally you say occupan maybe with one or two other heroes and in the rest of your points with bodies. Yeah i'll talk me through some of the logic of some of the discussion already. Seeing people going there loving this so yeah people and this is the list. Iran frightens a just because of the Mma think i think he's the synergise thalberg Which really case if we put blowtorches to point down the minute because that's where variable about how use out so without kim kyung may dismiss work so when i was making my corn list when i was developing in of really went for a miss julie with a big heart hitting unit. Just planning skate against skate. Even shooting army's just losing. It didn't have it. Didn't have the speed will the threat that out of one cooling cool to have it didn't have enough votes on the ball just to get this too many threats you today with. It just wasn't working and then went. Thinks clock it with alcon. But what does he bring to the table. Does he bring enough and then they just started building in the pacers came together. And she's like oh you can do this and this in this. Oh i'ma Oculus case this has to be because he's He's off your on me. So he has to do. The heavy lifting without buffs. He gets easy enough. No is the answer. It's the buffs and everything around him in the synergies which make work so little things. Twad scrape imports from a tank. They got in from four tax from taught tax on his sword. Which then just you know. that's just you. Increasing the chances to kill something the blitz type rerun to women's is k. Here so again the synergies of the bloodsucker late point model within are him forward master. What what an imagination. Just like a. I always had issues with the with the boy. Trying to have a crack at blood the blood bloodthirsty move forward lens. Pose a stalemate with his such like it's interesting I really wanted to unpack this energy and thank you for getting to that already because when you look at he such a dense will scroll has so many key words. It's not funny later. Line so many abilities and stony things us like. How do i make the most of these wolf's girl so getting the plus one attack is going to be great and then as you said you can see the slayer of kings and then in addition. You've got your blood tie like we already. Adding plus when attack is sweet. Then you're blood type stuff. Sorry continue in office. He rewrote yes. So so this house. I've mentioned demon so you are to hand. Bank cohen said east gun. Back to re rose severo wounds to heal the plus when attack from sucre rerun williams from the one thing. He is a bit french out. He's got twenty wins in israel however that still isn't enough to go. I'm just gonna throw myself fullwood here. This is where the restless comes in. So you've got the you've got the prescription sites Again can game changing off Fighting whole Iran even on three sides they can start chipping away cheaper i. Ym he will get taken veggie. Soon as he's got to say you know he he's. He's a tank so he's really Down that so then the reason why the stoughton has the skokov manno is is really kate. The economy's not with fog rinse for easy to snipe him out with with you. Anything can really stop long-range polls weather so having a match just makes gerbil and then you can hide him physically hiding so tonkin show. So he's kate. Because wiccan aachen for your wounds. is so important but obviously making you run and challenge is kate. The blood thirst is also k. For this city but anxious work Point out that these don't just what though kim a and that's putting wags into a bossy sounds odd crime but i'm not united blood test komo on the blaze anything. You want more sooner remember Everything so everything. It also bizarre so the blood thirsty the dude essentially create this threat range from ocoee which require charged on us on a in people's eighth get annoyed zinc Voice but Having threat range of what these who fourteen inch move allegation on self without without taking anyone starts office and in the stoke gives the ronin challenge. So you get you get the ability of Point you can go on. He goes six. Obviously get yourself as long as options on the table. He gets a free command point at the start of the every year of started the hero. Face right sir. So you all automatically guarantee yourself guaranteeing yourself a sixty inch run. Yeah ping bank for you. Double pile in other roles and things like that but it's the stoker being go an extra three g run row a That that's what what what the additional synergy that is the blood bloodthirsty fury than going. Okay you comply six inches running essay so you don't take any charging you'll running but when you get into combined gun piling in and you send say fourteen fourteen implicity six plus three so you you minimum is nineteen inch move than with the pollen move. So he's threat rain. She's just like i'm gonna Practically anywhere of one downside base has to manage that. That's one thing to really you case of people can control it's bad in mind but the crimson crown to let the a free kamal on papa around a allows the blood test to he's all demons within sixteen inches. Pauline six inches on sixty. It's it's day is damon Little models that you want to be able to pilot six Daily lloyd free so when you talk about yet you come on point see generation you get your free women from all ccm From from the italian sorry. An quinson crowns. Well i think i can calculate dozen as always occupants on the table you get yourself a command point. Zero waiver benefits Races that that those those these lists images that would get the essentially the down in the welcome condemning. That's fine but then you then you have to consider how you then managed the bold because is fine just having a big beat stick on the board but you know you have no written Point several routes but then it's what about controlling your opponent inside. This is what had four units come into play Before we get into that point one quick coli get drink as well. The cool thing is occupied his vc. knows spells his ability to be able to take no spells endless spells anne heels as well and is going to be a party threat. But before you move on. I just wanna i wanna call at this thing. I've seen this discussion happened a few times. Now and some people struggle to see the value of six inch piling. And it's and it's very. It's not very common right Some of the sluggish things inch pilots Doors kane has the sisters of slaughter who succeeds pilot at the blood of unfit. Fury's command ability allows cohen demons. Hollywood within sixteen to double to piling within six in your opinion. Why is that important. Why is that such a good ability end and like yet. why why. why is that. So i take main points one being dodge Rights and you can run. So you've got the security of knowing that number one which filed the charge like basically. He's done have to file the charge. You don't have spend a command point to re roll the charge. It's gone saying in with the the ability to run stakes gives you a guaranteed threat range and some of the flood on very quick. So the point. You didn't start losing eleven inches men piling them. Another six instantly has gone from moving fly to san eleven. Not daily mess right there. Am i know me. Mathis tonight would stay mass five. Six six was found. Seventeen very Opponent is looking at the battlefield that guy. Oh look as can get their seventeen nights that threat running con- you know you can control you can control board you. You're onto a winner That's why it's so important. The you ever think you'll so controlling when things are fighting so you can go right occupants so if you on your mobile fights Mclaughlin is charging. John charge regions charging Three tax go with something. You'll just get a paul income is so we're gonna do the damaging again doubling down on controlling the combat phase Awning in okay. He kills it kills every does because if he's puffed up the likely hit he's gonna kill in front of him or is going to be in such a such a bad state is not gonna babich fight back then you okay. Your opponents parents tend to him to fight. You've got nothing to fight okay. Mugler's aruna pilot so you you're not getting hit you'll get into fight so it's a bit like a poor man's away starts fest for but it's just a different by mounting mongia. We'll speaking on. If other co-lead i'd make is that you can avoid any of those start of combat abilities right so if someone has i always struck i decided combat all like like deep can is a perfect example round three traditionally. They spend all their command points. Always fight i. If you're not in within three inches you you're not gonna get hit back end. You've really reduced the risk of damaging you get to choose the terms of battle sir I wanted your opinion on because some people that see the benefit over sixteen pilot. But then when you start to do it you know so many opportunities unlocked and you see why the pay you always want to have a say ready. For this rathbun's the reason the crimson crown without without without shadow. It's just like yeah. This is is as k. Again pipette when you look through the book getting on cooler you look through the book. Onery row challenges. Great great if you wanna be doing rerouting. Charges from other fills very corny. Plus one happens running. Also things like that but you won't cohen an extra point. This is the reason why in an struggled secca there is facts. Maybe maybe tickets Well maybe they're. The ones aren't good enough auburn the so k. Thank you for that. Thank you that just just for anyone who needs he. Why six inch piling is great. But you're about to tell me about your thirty blunt letters. And you'll three hundred ten of blood radio Is there about tactic. Checking your access Empty drawing board spice saw i would Linking is controlling the wtam ten not necessarily controlling the doctoral but controlling what happens so essentially Except with this list and it was very rally different New sometimes it. Was anyone who i was playing against if i was probably gets into the really aggressive on me which was good. Example won't put you on the back. Foods have one It will just challenge. I eat bush. Just wants out tim on those kinds of things this here. A essentially creates lions fence. Six point win if being work it while you can. You can double down again. So i would very often have Just in long in a long line in front of me so they were from absolute front and center might might A didn't have the bliss usually in line or big hope behind triggers usually Unanimity when you said. Oh they're going to be too hot to two point six inches away. So if you charged Thing super protective out have them five. She's back because then occupied the test. this commodity so difference but Lets you know. i think it's best done through. The processes said sorry for example. You'll going second cool plan. Your opponents got really fos haute. Hey now me. And they're going fast so if it got shooting a charge in the rivers cape. Then it's more sense would tack Leads and if acidic On twice with them so they can think twice about attacking with the the rivas because they just didn't get Counterpunched on top of that on getting blitar points educated wages so so it's like anyway dot stats purpose. So that thawing protects meiomi on points. So you're not. you're not really talk i need. I like doc. Faced can help wrapping them. A little bit of a boost right like they're gonna go Dying and swinging the same time saturday with the ballot plus kazakh. Face gonna give you plus when attack fo the blood ravens while they within range of the slota priest and it does get. It's gonna low you. Drops united slow to praise. The bloodsucker up. Three to six units of the blonde rave is But it's interesting rob. Because i know even back in the day with my free paypal i would always have a line of men and then then behind that would be handguns and my hand got us which should eat. Iv end within three inches and people would always second guess hitting the god. 'cause they know they're gonna drag in the handgun ability eulogise replacing it with mellow focused of the blood. Light is going dangerous. Cutting sick provide a pretty fragile Winds so you come. That threat is is is a ways there. If you're if you're piloting of as Going to maxed out. they're gonna ask What happens and if is the case if somebody does that then you've got a the the twenty four weeks movement of who can reposition himself sir. If effect happens you then got the potential to be done on the ten Opponents fast a charge in january. But you can with the Without gone you then have central free rein about way he goes folks will he goes insane Chance to get the double if your opponent does exactly the same united Switch if the coon guy. I then not gonna get into combat. I might get scared because oculus got that. Massive long twenty nine people might guy. I much show occupant in unit He cam yet. If you get those buffs off it could be in Before can let that happen now. A very red did that don't anyway but it makes people second guessing inmates people do something might not want a day so he's making the do something that's another aspect of the guy's name if you don't make your opponent do something they'll just do. I want those guess. What than Says he's making them make that decision about going 'cause i might So if you went fast is cool and you then guy right. Okay is just macri pup. Bored like six inches. Eight inches of the road are now in the center of the board with my big block without Who's practically the center of the board as well so that your opponent is still got that decision to go into that river hug to go into the business today have occupied potentially wmu next. So it's using the lies under threat of everything else to control the the the the games the flow of the game with whatever not new books are going to impact on this list design say england. We'd been lockdown As much on t. t s. i struggle with a In whether or not new books is counteract this released by shooting it. A you know. That's where i would. Struggle is already ons. You just through the lockdown Tying with with with luminaries taught society but the tactics their works and and and the method behind days Valid and the game is constantly evolving writing soul blinds coming. You know who knows what's coming the meta changes so often. And i think that's why it's always nice to revisit these types of topics then you as the listener can go right while my metal has a strategy for example i haven't seen the illuminates eighty author. Blocks haven't seen anyone actually run them in real life and i'm going to tournament literally to time. And none of those limited meets not the minimum running eighty arches in omaha it might be super ogm all tribes and i enjoy a naive hitting you in turn one. So thinking about your medicare and thinking about How you adapt to that is always gonna be different Always keep that in mind Evolves one one final question while before we move into the next list which came from the was was that rapists of vengeance laced are designed to put pressure on your opponent. Intern wanted turn to or do you find. It's kind of more of a late game. Sustainability list like what's your. What's your rationale. I think with the spade and the threat of being to unite essentially run unpiloted. You've got the long range threat. So i think but mike speeds is actually win. The game by game just true. At least just as add onto that back to list are used more summoning because is pretty light model count. You're right on the weaknesses. Off-balance full five units right. Let's ignore the characters The three threes and even the blood test any. So i wouldn't i wouldn't even go to the threat of the bethesda talian class. The his significant combi threes there. Okay unites for anything. I would want to rely on so this off us summoning a law because allows you to replace the models scoring points. An so essentially. That's way more ten four five win me the game got beyond I've got. I've got my blood points. Miami is practically among would find that you need to enjoy against the saami this the end most things died are usually killed them. That usually killed me. An i kind of woman through attrition through summoning To people really Fly they wanted to scrap. Do not mean and i played cable a lot who is very notorious for For his corn. And it's an honest game as it reminds me. A lot of enjoy is to saying that no no tricks just fists like it. Just getting their puncher opponent. Things die in not a lot of not a lot of Like ancient antigens although although at times a few people have actually though it's not needs particular list yet anyway Is cool things you can do with this and hey you could always flip by the other boxes well tapping to other things. Like breath of the chosen Should you want to try something different. But thank you for that now. The second list A rottweiler timestamp. Ease a go. Todd list and i haven't seen a lot of time previously so i know what you're thinking behind go. Tidies is just. I dunno everyone went rape is a vengeance like that gene doesn't it just makes now now on the list in So if you're talking about you know if you're making less than you're going stop. Now this is the communist of this is where i would stop. So is this. Chinese troy troy digested note. Is this guy this stein point. And then i would build upon this and the offer in this list. there are ways you can improve it ready with works you just to try. But the based on pipe identity looks firm. Get but it's when you add all those little bits together and how it's twenty each other a to get through will artists and So i'll put this list in Right if we're going to try some different 'cause there's no point just cracking the whip about suspensions. 'cause i'm sure people want. Hey other options than if the other two Tom constrained but when i went on most starting my coolness i did try go tide. Am i tried it with a big block of laboratories focus. That's an interesting interesting take because they do Really really good and they would go tied. the odds commodities How how he makes mayes synergies within the nist. And i'm way oil abs here especially printing machine i you mindset in has to change for this content is going gonna be punching the opponent so in greek dance with this list Think i don't think it will Is stronger amendment nowadays engaged with changing meta especially with aiops three around the corner The likelihood is the smart boards coming soon. slower again benefit from a Cool definitely see those benefits So Autism this is definitely a messy. So you'll then news utilizing back so yeah i kind of like it's interesting about tight on howdy. Mike kohn moles work. And i did. You can make work. I think you do need always babai. Yeah yeah you've got to. You've gotta hit me into one side demons immortals but as you shirt in the previous lowest. You've still got some models in damon build so but you don't wanna you don't wanna go fifty fifty split each probably do wanna have a seventy thirty split baby where you got majority appoints in one keyword to maximize synergy and support. 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That's an interesting interaction. you command ability so what's that say. Run rolls when you if you're committed before you make a role for one friendly blood rivers of blood warriors out within sixteen year traded as a six so okay but you can say run johnston. Yes yes oh so. It's still it's still affecting one motorway in sixteen by activating the runnin chargeability. As well which is the sweet muskie because ultimately you know with the new you can wipe Six with the with the quantum. Billy a They've missed libraries. If you wanted gave six but it's the running charge which may also but it's also the extended range of sixteen. normally you'd be restricted to seek twelve. So even just getting an extended a couple of inches for the ron will be helpful. Is there anything in particular that you'll building around out of these four or is it much like rapist way. They're olga Apply sena list. I none of these. None of the jury meets this one was. They believed to run a charge again. Just to have boll control so that could be things like you. Wanna get me jack marker so you need you one of the weaknesses foot So that that would make that would make a site that would be the best one of all the others on ice editions. Re rose to Night rose to wound of a one hour I guess a lot of things wounding on threes in the in the kobuk anyway Nydia like The diminishing return when you stop enrolling ones and twos and And i will say. I haven't said it needs particular episode but i stayed in every episode. This is not the holy list. It's not like the one least rule. The mole seasoned to taste and someone was talking in the chat earlier about scott brand. Scott brain You putting bella koi. There's so many things that you could tweaking modify To your style co tasty. Oh metal up. It's always good to hear how people connecting the rolls into that list building which brings us list turn. Which is the goal tight list. So this is different. You may be three colin's instead of two columns what if you got. You've got the the lord of corn on Haven't seen one of those ages. The judge knows you've got such a cool bottle each is gonna kick kick looking just met a lot. Forget barron got despite. These guys are just absolutely machines. you've got your blood strike. You've got your blood security. You got to slow priests. Then you have gauche. Ted blood warriors with x ten blood a blood warriors with gore actually got three money's go crushes within axes. You've got another unit exact same loaded up the money skull-crushing with the social access to units of flesh hounds Ravens ten blood raven blood rivas five wrath mangas. I haven't seen those guys in such while the red sox at the wrath of never seen the right facs used on the table which is awesome. Wow i've never. I've never seen it but what i have seen in every list. It's a bloody hicks gorgeous skulls. I have not made about thirty freaking things back i. The one thing went acumen employs. Really anything. I wanna things i had to lose in i. The reason been the arguments By the they sometimes did nothing as as in your opponent just didn't have any magic at but again may bring from shutdown homage Anywhere else the forty points as such good value that is such good value eddie. A controls like some people that you'd be like i'm just not gonna cost cities fouls It's forty reporting. Shut down your home. Magic face yes it has a lot like. It's always the risk of of doing the The eight and it's the dice. Roll of eight lucky not forget the modifies modified just a flat role and by the way. It's one hundred and seventy five wounds. Hundred and seventy five wins forgetting the fact you can also summon plucking spokes. That's getting numbers. This is this now. This list is reminiscent of that. Firstly stuff said about rush plying driftwood of stuff lots of different threat. Units that have got different. Solve lioness again. is this most competitive build identify would it need tweaking Ideas in my head literally off About detriot where you have the unit twenty two warriors. We work at that. You cannot play these twenty. Four odds study at he can have What synergies in that cool but make Allies in this Like in this. You've definitely got the lack of a big Somewhere post bold you. Why at that point. You didn't stop to think of control layering units of how you use your something points or you'll laptop points because that's what he's probably gonna win you lose your gains. Your biggest punches are gonna come through the skull. Crushes and the wrath loggers right yet. Yeah i think even that the big one what they want a unisex tried those. The foote's huge. You end up. Just wasting tanks you know. I mean to be fair getting because almost all on scope. Crushes makes Superior to that point you trip saying. I'm not i'm not dreaming. I'm on the scope crushes. Yeah yeah they went down in on. Say when the book change they. They went down in amish safe. That they had lost was at the five up shrunk. There was something that lost Between the book. I'm not just a you know but yeah not Again that just like solid like it. Can you straighten fullwood. graders in Is there just for the points. Control that law stephanie. Little bit more interesting. I think. I think this is an example of probably too much. She ate more issue and have five. Four mass is five. That were so you could. You could even go more embassy. But i'll probably daddy opposite than his slightest undercut at again having big warriors potentially Then you start looking synergies so even the ten voice during twenty good worries. You've got your blood. Stipe said they rerun women's anyway you got Attack then you've got the sole priest. Pretend giving while. I'm in That point that you know just a big block. The wounds there foresee Off that you know it's not hard. It's pretty hard to get. Get rid of is net with threat on site and then they can do what weeds on the balance as well. I mean many still is still something to consider but it also that threat range of putting your on the back foot Stoke witting them So about you'll With fines seventy fourteen and then the charge raw A threat range is really really. That isn't talked with The wrath mongers because they are they could in combat by themselves. I mean they got to attacks Got four tax two range and they portfolio right heating unfolds winning on threes. And when they die that can attack on the way out but the k. To me has always been that crimson highs where you can add plus when attacked to to coin. Units didn't way an anti buff themselves. has affected last. Who who will you see the jaws. Those is at the skull. Crushes is it I mean clearly you wouldn't you wouldn't worry too much about ten blood rave is blood warriors. Which you or what would you are. Eight depend it depends really. You know if you've got if you've got your begin. Blood war is suddenly suddenly adding an extra attack from the banner and the raf mangas Know again it's looking at all. I think i would use the more defensively. A definitely would In in his with cool foot shapes you do you do a forward. And that's probably one of the downsides this list is that a forging taste half but fringe saas. We just have to consider that but the rothman was being not just sitting in the center of euro made a booth Needed that if you've got twenty blood worries with three. The site press to taxi because the balance plus when aside i think unit twenty two black that damage to rent one go hunt taxes that to four tax tax About what you doing. Death by thousand cuts yet an You utilize them again. That's something Can't get back to this list when i made it very much. This is where i would start the us off. Mcgee's would it actually would they get benefiting game when actually tight with maybe not so. Why do making stumbling right. This is unit. I'm not sure this is my question. Mark unit. I think the tactic works. But i'm not sure if he does so then in my back of my head was if he doesn't then transferred unchanged melissa slotting ashok. I'm going to take that worries. Because the hundred four you can get into another unit template warriors and Towards things on june twenty points some actually saving myself points getting more wins on bow food and cranking big blocks may be changing the dynamic. But that's where waste go like. United is gonna work reality or is it just another threat unit utilizing utilizing multiple Wise remembers well folks sees There are some scenarios that have six objectives or five or even eight and many lists on when they see scenario with sewing like six or eight. Often they don't have enough bodies to be able to go fol- for all hold and attack full objectives and certain trade-offs he got enough bodies to leave in the backfield to screen. If there's going to be summoning to lean on home objectives wall force moves forward on your opponents objectives. I think petillo point Have you gone too heavy on the msu obviously you can tweak modify accordingly in bundle the blood warriors into a big block unions and things like that one thing. We didn't really talk about that. I really wanna talk about is an again matt. Campbell was the one who brought back to my attention because he loves it with his cards at blood is flush heads and i think now is a good time for you to reconsider flesh annual list with those colors record What that's why they're like. I wanted to get more so heavy but again if you go heavy with anything in that cool book i think you may sound with stuff. And that's why they Again they're not the worst in combat Bitten shooting attack. But you still got the ten wins. Let's five models They're not they're not that they're not that bad actually Little i think you're always going to have somebody so. I think you can meet some point at minimum. Would site have the manual summoning toolbox. Like you wanna have the minimum. Especially if you see yourself against the summoning army as some magic and what i love about. Him is the fact that they could unbinding spell chen. They can dispel endless billiton. And if it's a unit of ten or more ten or more of them Like to add plus one today unbinding dispelling role so It's annoying little unit and they need to standardize them deal with you. Know making people re-rule this spell oil order dispelling the blood tie and you pay off to a a magic apartment. Yeah definitely. I think. I think cam i think with towns in south they just they just feel rose fuel or like being fought twice with him is isn't it bad as well Love attacks at any just united again. Roth mangas Actually i think the secre earning does more tools nowadays name. I think so. Let's let's let's chat will tell us otherwise yeah again. I'd say you know. Every wolf's grow with every would at every ability not trying to answer full sorry bet like but which cohen. I don't wanna go but yeah i think you have things well with the with the post hit a lot of. There's a lot of thren death by thousand cuts kind of threat. Wed where does this list lag. Is that killer punch. But i think you'd want to and win on scenarios catching objectives controlling bold spunk stuff like that again. Having lands stuff using the readers so zone out your So you've bessie eunice squad. Crushes will stuff you can summon to than counter punch so again when you look at these lists. I think it's really kundu quite well at lying Yeah yeah It's not like you're putting like no tards blonde. People familiar with blood test is and you just running at your opponent and just like punching him in the face this is certainly a lot more bought control objective play a lot more nuance than a Some of the other bills. That i think we already know it's harmful blue blood. Do this is a different style. And i think it will work as well in certain match ups in certain matches and is is it. Is it corn enough fast fast Question isn't it. If you if you if you feeling is. Does it feel cold enough. I think it works really well when you think about the fact that all of your heroes a quite squishy now. It's always a challenge. We typically like Go pilgrims way majority of your power is coming from these six. Seven thousand hearers But don't have the best amish saving the world the when they stopped going down The you know the goal. Pilgrim's really collapses you've gotten into screen off the screen off the strain protecting them. You don't have a lot of screening from things like mortal wounds from range and things like that but ultimately just wakes of bodies that you could keep replenishing through summoning. Now not so. That's why you didn't have to play the egypt again you that you have to do that. And that's why he mindset just has to change if we have a cool head on just gonna kill you to. I'm gonna try and kill you. That's what i'm saying does it. Is it corny enough is it is cornell does in that sense but it's stuff unite united again Stein witnessed anti found. Kids always a good little. Msu a unit bush goes man. Dies ten in looking may be more effective than the judge the omoro fixing the rock. many points anymore similar scott discovery and could could work in like that to have to have that little support. Learning support here are like a. He can be one of those damage dealers that might complement. The the blunt of lyon crushes like to be an extra layer. And he's not that big so can maneuver and manipulate and work around all illegal screens of buddies. I guess that's where i go back to. What is your unique and be and i. I think that's why that valley said if i would the idea i would do would be have msu lots of different things but if you're gonna have a Bay in scott brown is another. Good example of fat potentially in Did require potentially About what would be best scott runs for a slight very quick but so you know that might work. That he might work has engaged. Yuck he doesn't fly that that's the that's the challenge writing swings in manta own Is been burnt off. So he can't use his any forever. Could i ryan is full for thousand years or something from a rural. He caught fly but to what brian says. Well in china and a very very very valid point is We haven't really dipped into estate day. We haven't talked to a slice of office. We haven't really tapped into the epa chosen with kept mostly within blades of corn. Other than obviously we had occupied before that you know when you start to layer in these core idea of goal pilgrims mortal build. You can stop bringing things like the load. On catcher drac you might bring in chaos notch. You could bring in a shrine. All these mobile units that would complement The additional mortals like the blood braves usa. Craig is things like that. So however you wanna move around and kind of make your own I think the great thing about things like like chaos in general cohen is at k. Would signage is is across the board in. Hey you can take the basic house battalion and get yourself some. I don't remember exactly what The base of chaos bought dairies a colin battalion. There as well. So you've got another option. That's that's the up. i've seen people use that one. I think that's quite a some punch to it especially Stephanie got s congo. Some legs often profess to know downside. I don't i don't recall exactly wanting the battalion pitkin. You've got options. If i think the point if made mark issued shown two different lists you've shown from from play styles different ideas and we can build around it strip at x. at in why manipulated seasons to taste of irs. Tomase is what synergies. More tricks leaking on Connect with each other. Not just like a white Does this to that unit. Might it work. Well how does that unit that wealth without one you know how how how we join the dots together throughout the hold on me. And that's that's what i think. I really enjoyed colin because there was lots of different options in their off other books outlet but that other nettlesome That cool todd table enabling you to just to respond to gang. Robin gang of lost the scanning A candidate with a just as putting are really interesting. Zampa home no not getting Against but it was a glory event where russ have a Mostly to bury Uk sage thomas bowl. The the bridge list with the is fighting his play tips. That was hallard hawk. The future started yet. Absolutely every guy news. Once i win one win russ had a on me and it was. It was like it was a really. Hey we. you've summed him somebody. We've we've mentioned these three times. It's like biggie. Small you satan in the mirror. Three times small stands up. Anything must have now. Let's pretend so what happens is rust versus tone moseley. You've got. i think it was hallo hot. it was the first breach. Hallo hot Shenanigans we saw from cities but Rested something really. Like what can they do in any way. I can say this. But the likelihood of wrestling that guy was pretty levin however was like this under the dick and he'll probably tell us the chat But it was trying to get a blitz hard points or tweet auto spouse some and it was to summon the breach. I think he was needed needed. That blood I cut Rusted rested was trying to kill his own unit to get blood Something that major. But it just showed like a k. Versus trying and this point the Switching like the books so far pau But he tried an and that the tougher allowed him to try and compete. Where without a win. Just calling out that. He killed his in ravers. We had judgment too so he could. You know unluckily The order spell because that was often Because that was that was hello hot. Hallo hot allows you for payday. Taika damage to the hurricana or aluminum. Look at could get up to six. In addition to spell costing so. He's he's a funny story. I played a cone opponent. She's super you. Reckon she's a mother of scots brand absolutely loved. My game is tournament and playing. Hello hot and i rolled a sixteen or it was like a sixteen on a spell cost. It doesn't matter what it was. It was like a role dane the and he was. I rolled in eight I in two plus always buffs So she ended up on. Unbinding me. Because i think is around hicks gorgeous. Skull remember what it was exactly but She kept me on us by miami rowing my eight. So you think about is never out of the game on always a toolbox tool both inability and a someone that you can bring into aven applying field or respond to your opponent. Doug going with you know. I'm always gonna summit Moist guy to do this. Do this really look at the table. Girl right which of these abilities. Which of as units would be served my purpose in winning the game scoring objectives retaining killing stuffing my punt during casing lockup bridge. Yeah an unaudited Apply against the south. 'cause she takes sentencing A on tv screen my fight against denied neth in the i think he put his eddie goals out of stock. Young by e pope Plus tax sny males killed him and it was like game a game over but the point just allowed again probably one of my best games. You talk ten year. This was definitely up thatch Remember planet one by losing loss And truth i date a using the whitby dude to then move at hayride New hero literally yellowed hero across the battlefield for platelets to climate objective off. I think it just little things like that without without without without summoning of one punishes dude sing humming and it was that long range of like running running a three Slow priest ran across the board in movement. Five iran seeks. We've got three then some Beaches among was able to get like five models to take the objective of of just. Didn't say that and just gains. That was just like it will be just like you can pay and it's really exciting. There are a lot of fun. I'm going to add one funnel colin story. Kind of bring these hyman. You can add now. I'm thinking about such great games against. I played one particular stephen at tournament and playing with my gates and he puts scott brand into sixty gets and he rolled sixes like they were just like he wasn't just put sixes on the table. Scott brain killed fifty six lens in a single round of combat. It was amazing. But then i use the cps sparring presence had phonetics in that unit souls freaking out ad infinitum come In scarborough and but pretty fair trade. It was a pretty fair trade. Killing like sixty gets With the nets causing moss when the hits such as mortals just coming out just brutal. So i guess the question of for you to kind of bring these time. I was getting lighting the uk and to stop work very shortly. That's like corn. Seems like just such an amazing army and we've already talked a lot about this. It's a token army. You've got a lot of abilities. By within blades cohen within russia the chosen within slaves to doctors and leveraging the keywords so whether you stay within blades all you chunk up a little higher and look at the cone keyboard across all the different books basic coyotes. Another example where you can get the The corn keyword. There's a lot of tools to respond to the mid. I think as an apartment and as a player the amish weekdays datebooks cities of seek mars perfect example chaos saints to keep your rental go because you can respond to the med. I you you can alter your list very easily. Where i enjoy is only so much altering canine. Nine joel's suv. What is it the blood. What are the your enjoyed. Some things that you've kinda picked up over your time that may be haven't already shared about colin to kind of bring us harm. Your flexibility to have one book go has lots of different options here with different play. Styles does like shipping the Not properly to me on the field. We'll have lost something at without Swisscom civility is is so it makes full enjoyable games where you just don't go with this using recipes games example way these but he had an idea and it were what it need was But you just think. I think the the ability to have demons as well as moles combined with into one. So you just you just go there. The a i goes forward to say probably one of the better more balanced books out that internally games of written as that's one thing Bring out. i think he's had three or four different books. He had the first book any at the expansion of a There was there was like emotional expansion and that kind of wrapped up together so this book is still almost. Three is one of the older books as and nineteen so. It's one of the old books yet. Yeah totally but but i think i think ninety self is an example of good internal bounce. Because he's had so many different connections work It hasn't had figures us. I think that's that's the kate here. Is that a look some other books where you're got to look supplements in your faq's this is. This is not very heavily. I cute so it seems like it's in a good spot. I think as If not allows us to play more it would be interesting to see how it responds to the current matter of the current game when you get out book still going on still On student voice. Some time look look look nobel right like all. It's taken with noble one rally. Advertising has been really helpful to them but then also recently in brooklyn rome's checklists By gordon update. Dislocating ball piper. And they got the update to the scrivener and the base of knuckle And slip walker has really changed the way damon models in nergal now moving away from being pure black king focused all the way into now had are tapping to mind boggling styles with the sloppy hot metal. Who knows what's gonna come down the line. Who knows if they one will scroll in evacuate gets them in evacuated. One of the old Oldest gulps what happens if she gets a i. Don't wanna say bella code. Because i think some people were expecting delicate like six hundred like we don't but like all its bellcore is getting paid for thinking. Bill is to be six hundred point model and supercharging but evacuate got an update. Or if you know if scott brain update what would that be in the game changes but yeah totally it doesn't. It doesn't take much sony tweaks to mike to change the elements rahm. Like like if. I were to look tweet tonight for the cool. I think it is bit more rent on a bit more speed. Yeah i was just reading the that matt. That cole is very good. It probably isn base of kyle's in general on very good. Let's be real saying that option is dan. We're saying the option is. We're not saying it's a good option. We're just saying it's an option. Yeah nothing that's came so sometimes. Not sometimes you can do is get Like lists where people can say that come in. I wasn't prepared for people in a sometimes like the With seven choices. If you bring something paper head for the iowa okay. i was expecting. I was expecting an odd netflix I think it is and you this. Coon foot list of meiomi. They can't do with almost for case but just gives you the option. That isn't it. The i like again. with the tools that you have There's a lot of options he can. I think as we've talked a lot. There's a lot of units that could be revisited. A lot of units that should be considered and put fresh eyes on duchess trying to pick up an oldest and try to bring it into cohen. It's like a new. We've got magic dominance we've got Different scenarios depending on what we lost. You picked up yuko nami. I think for some people that haven't picked it up for a number of years. So ray look at the game. Look at the way that we're playing hockey on. Had his new bell coming to play on. 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Forget it done should already. I'm not gonna tell you what is about yet because no one will read it if they are. That's true that's true title. Nobody's going to be really th. I'm really glad you're writing. Say that. I think it's a de tocqueville until you've read it. Stop it stop. it have been wrong. I've only yes number of people. There's is anything you should've led by now. Mesa says never by me and puff from that. Just hope everyone's doing okay. Staying safe and well looking after each other looking after yourselves on today's show we're not gonna do nations league so that we're going to do on thursday but also they will be some england chance to the on rice house this week in run so that'll be good. That got their wish greeley star. Yes it was best player. But we're gonna swear the nation's most of the nations league chat until it's all wrapped up on thursday. So it's going to do when supllies from boone's as a massive game in the front bundesliga the weekend was the of a power shift. Dust statement victory. There was a couple of statement draws in the women's super league which is something. I've yeah i've thrown We'll touch on a couple of other leagues before touch on some of the stuff. That is going to be a little bit of a nice easy monday one. Yup yup into this massive weekend in the women's superleague too big dhabi's while three big dhabi's release seconds dhabi as well which wanna begin also chelsea. I actually wanted to begin with them. Yeah miss is really interesting game. Not run manchester united's to manchester city to city went tuneup of to lock just before halftime. Two second half time versity and then united drip back an almost one layton and biscuits interesting. Because i felt united out four city even when city with enough were were up. It sounds so strange to say it but like you think well. I feel united. Made better use of their pieces. Done said he did. I mean that's the show over the. I think over the course of the whole ninety minutes. Yeah i mean you obviously. Of course even then. I was watching going missing. I almost wonder if the first time the city have too many playmakers in that scored have too many because so they have colby was amazing was amazing. I want to say that and effect to be almost a third in terms of the way she pulls away and builds play was almost a third. Eight tubs of playmakers amazing. It occupies central spices. Much way. hasn't been her best this year. I think that's fair to say. This is so strange because that game the chelsea City committee show much her and some have kind of been playing the same way since opening game so strange. I just watching both their careers. Parallel slaughter dwell me. Let me slide calm. Considering that quality. Dan not quite the level of delivering the level that they may be one too. And i look at that city and then also an white was slightly off target and she had to write chattan. Does she snatched even even that. That role is strange. Like she's playing in this midst from three but with the isolated considering city have behind her is so strange to see a nine in that formation so isolated considering house that he donated the phone larry's so it was like city were dominant but what making best use of their pieces whereas united made full use of all the pieces. I thought even relation to midfield. Like jackie cronin this season. She's having just in terms of her self sacrifice. Containment a midfield has been outstanding. And i think this game you come away from this game watching united and think my god this soda because they figure you out contain you they figure you out. They start imposing themselves. And by the end i felt worth strongest side. Yeah i thought so. Yeah on the balance. They should have like eight one that game that would have been absolutely fair result cases thirty said after the game that she completely got it wrong in the first half and then i think you saw that with the way them much nicer came out in the second completely changed the game. Yup is interesting what you said about much not using the most piece because i thought that they were so superior especially for the first twenty minutes the whole of the first half and they probably should have been more up to half time club. Kelly's goal was unbelievable. Phillips really finished british nice angle from behind the go away. You see how much he's had to like run around the defender in kind of outside of the foot into the country twice. You try to jam reminded me off fits golden. Has i guess. I xe the kim that you did mention her. Well yeah because the way that she was like she tried it twice and was so funny. You don't often see it. She was like trying to pick the lock. What round outside the right. And it came back to her then she was like okay now. I've got the goal and it was such a clever. You could see her. Thinking is the. That's why i love coach. He's so clever. At like improvising. She can pull wide and play. She could play wide all day. Which eventually did the other day. She's devastating penalty box. Also have penalty-taking technique is off. The scale is one of the best but one of the best. You'll see anywhere really. She was probably the player that i mean. Harrison mir samir is first i in particular was on another level some mirrors israeli in a groove at the moment. I think it was light worked for her. It was the way she built tax and do it. She would basically like she would construct the player. She was stalking the ball. she would take. It was strange because she's taking tobaks then within a few paces should be on the edge of that book setting everything up. This is actually something. I was gonna say because i think how high six foot right so fight makes her look kinda like what he see. Wendy renault right yep and that the physical presence is something that dominates of discourse around them but you is is rapid. Yeah there was one bit in the first half where they broke forward. And i think it's exactly the thing that you mentioned what. She saw the attacking a few paces on the opposition bucks. Yes overtaken so many people yeah. She's been so impressive this season. Maybe we'll touch on the orbit because in a little bit. Because i wanted to just wrap up the first off with yes show like laura came with the first of two goals in this game console. Wt cpi and then ten minutes in second half tobin heath with an angry goal and celebration combo the amount of tweets. We got about the agricole. We got nine tweets. Yeah yeah people are anglo. Yeah you don't need to read it from us on that. That's an angry goal. We felt that could feel about. Yeah i think it was. The red voices does a great podcast. That she a shoutout to read voices much as focused and they cover Both teams are women's teams and they may commented like just can't believe that she had that from their angle is almost like slice with the kind of talk laces almost like discuss across it ended coach either. Ripston he rips. It came from a really really good spell of manchester united pressing as well and they just kind of sits the full bronze into an era tobin. Heath didn't even take a talk. She just hit it first. Time lovely angry celebration is great pressing this weekend. Actually in those in the great pressing in this one and then curse hansa. Nikolai shot up to her. She made a huge difference on the flight. It really did. And casey sunny deserves credit for. She brought on custody hans halftime. So jessica cigs worth off. And i think really helped united lauren. James had an impact when she came on as well breath her feet. She's like a drew spent her andrew spence. I think those two that may be the best extra in terms of english players extract themselves from lock small spaces that footwork in and around. That area is unreal. Yeah yeah and like you said. Tonight's probably could've naked the end. Yeah finished finished the game by far the better side. They remain top of the league. They were still unbeaten aside in the league chelsea. Who haven't lost. I think it raised a couple of questions for regarding taylor after the game because he hasn't really found a way to integrate roosevelt now. Roosevelt had a tricky. If injuries she she missed a lot of the challenge cup washington spirit because she. I think she had a hamstring problem. So she's been she hasn't been fully fit for a while especially in this. Stop start here. However when she has played for my city of it's been from the bench and when she started she's been played wide not really to her strength as essential playmaker and there was a lot of on twitter about a wessler roosevelt. She didn't get off the bench saturday and this is a problem that they could figure out because they haven't been wildly creative. This season much having scored apart from the bristol city game. They've not scored a a huge mop goals. They can be contained. This is the problem in the canyon. I don't think i was watching them and thinking about like coaching to their full level like united. You see them playing the full extent and city across the board. I'm seeing like seventy percent. Seventy percent of what. They can do a mass. That's a concern for them. And i you know when. I say they got too many playmate because i'm like well. Yeah because it's not. They don't ruthless not ruthless enough and highlight will had a great game. The united just in terms of the containment and just sort of We're going to give them into field. Give the possession. But it's like evidence that caught fire everton. Basically city have to be concerned. About how many blows their landing and teams just absorbing them especially at the very top of the league of the very top of the league admits an element of we kind of know what they're gonna do to us. If that makes sense and the theme lavelle lavelle basic gives you explosive but most people can do confronting running but lavelle breaks the fields right running and her angles and yet the angles of her passing her running the cuts that she makes. That's a unique skill set and they brought in a i. I saw the carry on with the. I thought to myself. Yeah that's funny because you using color scope. It goes before he's a tried and tested prote- but she's also something to which they've seen before right. They've seen that they haven't seen but roosevelt running at a united midfield is actually quite radical proposition. And it's a brain. She said she's probably the one of the greatest purveyors of the fela kuti theory plus the everything. Scott everything's whereas your count on with his life. If that makes sense the safest substitution could And i just thought. I thought i saw is the Could have been bribe me too me too absolutely awesome. One chelsea one in the top of the table clash of the week and also taking the lead late in the game five. Beth made thanks to an angry with me to bar cyst. Yes there was this point who've made about super quiet mostly the game. I think she only completed one pass in the first half and in the second half chelsea completely swarmed arsenal and the open up ten. Fifteen minutes of the game also just couldn't really get our tool. maybe ten. Ten minutes of the second-half wasted a few good chances after awesome how to cope. Look good chances in the first half like caitlin ford. Hit the bar twice. Believe i've never seen that in my life. Someone tweeted oh. My three started cheering for women. Couple minutes later for his the ball twice and she is that happened all the time. Study so no no. It really doesn't it will never happen again. In your life. Hit the shelf from what. Twenty five builds. Yeah hit the ball fluently from the ad and hit the bar again. It was unbelievable. It was to be a win thing. Because i think the wind was quite far towards that chelsea. Go as it was the crossbar before. Then in the second half bonilla missed a couple soccer. Mr couple and chelsea looked like they run top for that opening minute and then the problem not a problem but the thing is would ask them who is still missing some key injuries. Kim little i mean because you have people like they've made them are and some of the england contingent lay williamson and the kind of business when she plays if someone like. Danni alexander dunk the goalscoring ability. If beth made. I think kim little sometimes gets left out of the. I think the the people who really really follow women's football always talk about kim litto contemptuous wider persuasion. The her contribution or him important awesome side often gets overlooked. She is like the equivalent of having a job in the start up. Because you see her. When awesome absorbing a huge amount of pressure her ability to just on the bull in tight spaces almost like coaxing awesome. Allow of a defensive position to yes. Yes yes yes she. She's really really amazing. She did this a number of times during the game where she kind of just like you almost feel you could almost feel the pressure fall away from the seventeen point time to get out of crowded car park like a really patient really patient. She's the only way out of comeback. You know when you come back from. Lock your your shopping. Run and someone's books in and you just find a way out. It's just like that. Like option turn option. Option like always always. Yeah and she was. I thought she was absolutely brilliant. Old game actually actually want to meet him. I think was kind of left her own devices because of all that play in the center field. It was almost like you'll have to fend for yourself much of this game. I think i think that was that that makes sense. And that's actually where the also came from me. Tamalpais up on the left hand side is run i think it was mara melda and just thought this is it. And he actually. It came not long familiar. Bright went down injured and looked pretty bad way. But emma hayes left iran and she just couldn't close me demain down great ball into the book and beth made put away up so late in the game. Was it five minutes degar. Maybe later i think even eighty six minutes okay and you really felt like us know that would have done it and then chelsea made a couple of substrate away and then am that was. That was it. Pinilla brought down the right hand side one on one with Lottie we've been more and then tried to square the bowl and women moi just basically slid in deflected up as burger a bit freakish. Actually because it's so weird. Because if i saw a few people criticize sins burger about it and i couldn't make my mind up actually because i thought that yet potentially she could have taken a couple of steps back. There's a really good angle from the byline and it takes a witch project jewelry and he gets up so fast it gets up so i don't know it's one of those ones when she'd been named play the matra not stunning performance in central defence. So it was like such a cruel. I don't think have. Oh no no no no it was. It wasn't but still you still feel the responsibility. Don't you still feel some curb. Really could have won the game not long after she broke through. Should've loved iva. Yes you should have. I think this the thing for this is the thing. That's going to be a bunch of mrs from this first third of the season or whatever where she will look can be like i at my best schools. It's just one of those things i think. The chances are premium these games. And it's difficult because it's hard to deliver consistently when you're feeding off of this scraps off jones's that's because made her name to be on his elsewhere in the women's super leak. Brian beat west ham. One no good goodwin for brian. They should have had a penalty while in the fest. There's an absolute gleaming. Penalty missed spurs. This is a massively disappointing results. Spurs bristol city to spurs to this kind of game spurs should be winning absolutely should be winning and they're still winless. This season the only side to the all winless opera city. That first point of the season was that spurs game two. That was bold. Move alex morgan. It's funny because i looked at that when she went in there and thought that that team needs like more pieces to make it competitive like that was. That was the time i didn't. They during its bristol city. But i think the move for alex morgan. We spoke about before. I think the best thing. It's a pressure-free returned to fitness. Play back into full Shot a baby less than six months ago. Decent project to play in the league against some of the best players in the world. I think that move. Khanna makes no sense especially you know being in london this stuff but does a poor result for spurs. They did go down to ten players. They had rounded team was sent off for our which i thought was a little bit harshly but still considering a last minute. Equaliser is not good again especially Bristol city who have been basically hammered by everyone. This season birmingham on the second stage Vela one and everton though reading are quiet an austere at side radio. Good side yeah. Yeah yeah. I mean also everton victim of i think heightened expectations other than we can say it was a cop hang because the game was a while ago now by reading decent side and of breakdown am evanston those still two points ahead of manchester city so the table as it stands much to talk on seventeen points also second sixteen chelsea third fourteen chelsea just have a game in hand against villa if they win that though an epson fourth my city v most the super league man. I mean those games. Those games are superb and yeah just quickly on on chelsea as well the ferocity of depressing talk controversial for you to be still the best team in that division. I think they're still the fibers to win like yup germany. It was a gigantic weekend in the frown. Liga it was that we say it a snl. Freiburg nil i respect to respectively. Doing that the second biggest game the weekend big weekend. Bye against boost. Book club presidents pasta and present turn up towards this signed the fixtures importance and yet buying votes book. Full one them. Yeah now missing. Full players for this pyeho will soon and bremer is a huge absences. These are players. Who would make a difference to the peak having said that the ferocity with which bind began this game with just they just the the the the a few years ago by being thrashed by volksbank. Last time i saw them play they. It was a one all draw and buying came to a vote. Spokane assertive action by the end. Could have snatched it but still ultimate quite defensive phase this one they won the front foot drought. The run of really good run actually against wolfsburg. Why haven't lost to wolfsburg in five games ago last six no in the lake and even before that they won the game before the as well as they've actually you know bug one to the last seven between these two which has been slowly kind of shifting sign of the times buying got closer and closer by she said like missing alot of players buying having added strength in depth Just me shrivenham for great p. She wrote about this buzz about how this was effectively statement victory but also specifically about how well have integrated new players. Matt's non small achievement. I think five plays integrates. it consider. We've just discussed how city of have trouble. Also the covert season so people like people coming in with the different levels of a fitness. Both mental and physical and bind have discussed this thing done. They are looking sufa. Dangerous hundred record in the league and played nine one nine scored thirty and the goal that they conceded was it was a penalty. Yup yup boost scored the first goal bind conceived in the league this season. What's interesting about this as well. The team in slide aspects concerning is how quickly lena oberdorf has become a vital for them about ten nineteen lay number of soviet union. Right so you know. An amazing planet a dream world. It was in a pop oberdorf midfielder be great to watch but she's quickly become a creative For them and i notice in the final in the chonreznick. Leon what you were saying at the time of a high point for this voice book. I'm just worried about the replacements. The players that broughton roseburg. I worried that like they're not going to run. Europe loss lot did i thought of those. Changeover guardia european level of the final. But there's also a changing happening league level to 'em missouri changing the at european leveler winona tons of the pecking order like sold out farmland. Thought this time. Next year auditing full. Spoke are going to be like leila's main challenger that makes sense that makes sense so obviously the dominant grow piece of it on the just his brilliant as i said. Britain is just adequate. This excellent. that'll go smooth pita actually not quite as good as crunchy. But if it's all there you'll take it that's basically what my written work is like. That's the that's the most thing you said. What is oversleeping above. Yeah that that could be the new populism but you're a smooth being a book. We are because i cook with a lot Using shit wind to cook like you know. I'm talking about slice of peanut. No no no because you cook you. Don't cook with a full year. But levine in the same way that you don't well as she the all of us but some of us look at this guy. Everyone book in public school of even if you merely town i should have not really anyway wonder at some point. We'll talk about my recipes with smooth peanut butter. Yeah but i'm talking about on taylor. I mean on toast i. I haven't had tyson of time to be honest about the whole peanut butter as a whole. Is this like one of those like my hand crooked over the jaw. 'cause it's actually the i used to eat it all the time. It's the dryness. Actually now snow play chat. Oh my god. My god still come out by skit out within dreadfully off. Wow wow oh my goodness have a good man he better. You'd better off to ask. So where would we bought the league top league and looking powershift looking extraordinary looking really special. We'll be careful though because to being a hot on the heels only three points behind them overseas to being has ship with hata flying returning to some of the potential classic being the teams. This was the real classic over the weekend to be frank for the old school. Classic tabby in frankfurt one no and up to third quickly in spain buses game against abe was postponed. Pull boss alone. I keep getting that game spun because of covid restrictions but they Four points behind ten reef with three games in hand athletic. Two points ahead of him boston. Five straight so they all of that game so far having conceded a goal unless he bet betis four one probably the biggest game in the weekend. Rahmatullah be one no taken away doing all right athlete. Row matured good acquisitions. Yeah if in the league. In france leon are obviously tom. A one scored twenty conceded to but that a tricky game on the weekend for them only winning five one on friday against soil. psg meanwhile a second after fourteen nil win against a c fourteen nil mussa not and got six. I mean at this level. At this point i just want to see what 'cause obviously not tired of losing anytime soon or not winning any anytime soon. I wonder if there's going to be a change in. Be the champions league. Just a mismatch and resources fourteen now so dispiriting. That's the one thing. I have about this financial disparity. Ps second behind. Leo two points behind not in a demon is an absolute boss. She was the first footballer. I spoke to in terms of it into be at the women's champions league final in that we can in budapest. She's an absolute j. I don't think we've already spoke about her huge amount on this podcast but honestly shown tonight Either chat never game published with her about just just about football because she's got an amazing box story which i think a lot of people of her are aware of and when we had a shot at that and this was. I think i've talked about this before. The is amazing weekend around the women's champions league and budapest twenty nineteen and i was looking to go and attend. That was a big day of talks. And stuff. Like that. And i got in the day and i just said to the story about halfway afghanistan. She's done the tokes stuff and she said two hundred full and we just shot the shit about for awhile and she's an absolute and scored six on the weekend. I'd love to see her in the super league again. Because i know he went to city and it didn't really work out for her was she actually framed as in the in amazing ways she said you know all the thing was like now if you say like she she was saying you know if you see like address on the shelf and you love an amazing and he by and you take it home and it. Doesn't you still really want it to fit. It doesn't fit quite right and you never quite then it becomes quite way. Yes basically like. That's what much assistant and she said. A lot of people thought it was a money thing. She's gonna give shit about the money. Amazing i'm gonna make my money as a surgeon when she's oh she should. She's trying to. I think she's chinese best such oh she's qualified. She's qualified doctor massive props to not editing six goals on the weekend. Love that laptop for her. She's just amazing. She we rebel that and then get into a back. Stir art get into a mailbox. We're gonna virus. He says both gimmie three players. I play fell in love with watching the play. Second someone you wish. She could have watch live. Three favorite comply. Why is it such a scary question. Mark hughes i playful enough with mark hughes. Yeah because molecules. It always school those goals for united and their lean periods as a volley he scored against everton. I always talk about beautiful. Lob volley in into one old. Roy think pat nevin scored the opener. Not sure but everton and he's equalizing hughes which is score these beautiful volleys now and again and just dragging the data mediocrity time and again to hughes was the first. I think i was attracted to as much as the bravery. Technique was one thing but the bravery of hughes a play. I'd love to have watched live. I think peaks done with so poetic. I think zidane is the most elegant or either peaks on or no doubt. Let me go back to run out. Actually the president went out of the phenomenon at his peak is still the most devastating football. I've ever seen in any form so we're not live in favorite plan now right now she because macy's had a difficult start this seaside right now. It might even be greenish. Said joe no no right now joel. Embiid's moment in this particular precise moment. I love shafi looks much. He's probably he's top three me talk to but i think right now is greenish. Just the kind of just to see someone playing with so much freedom to see someone on whom the spotlight is finally falling even though he's being this level for a very long time so yeah probably jack closely followed rafi. Shroud greenish is mine. You mentioned john gruber shot. Let's see how she mean. Jack is one of those ones whereas like shroud greenish. I'm going to stop pushing the greenish to athletic. Don't funny about that. That would be incredible because the amount of defensive work that british does the hard work does he. Now that he player. He's the most english. Is the most letty english player. I think you saying it's about fucking everyone gets because pizza because that's because no one knows what it means. That's the thing is it doesn't mean anything about time. Someone she asked me. What does that mean like unexplained people here like it's an energy it's just pure deflection pure populism. Give the message what they want. It was like only has just amazing operatic waving them like but if you analyze it did i've. I've spent hours hours going into the wee hours of the morning. Like always sunny in philadelphia. Thing just with quotes. I'm like none of this means fucking anything. I've just figured out. I've been catfish stu time. This is the longest everyone's like saudi. I realized like guys again every now and again people get in touch. You're like i'm gonna go onto me. Like i feel like i've been rumbled. Good i could just keep going keep doing. I've fished everyone. That's it and i'm glad you did catfish stuck with me now. The world's subscribe and keep reviewing you know the buttons haven't even given answer. This is silly Okay i player fell in love with watching play. I think was probably david broke. Hostile ladies Something about that number seven show and the way he played that era vaas beautiful yellow navy away shirt when the league with. I'm filled in well. He chipped british markle before it was fashionable. I think i think he's one of those players. Actually who because if what ended up happening with injuries that i think he will forever go down as one of the most underrated awesome applies. Actually what england place actually england. David roku technical ability famous goal morton. Famous statements go when he basic. I think bryan robson the triple the will decision then chips. 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Would it be like. Oh yeah yeah right now. Yeah men's tough one. I've a real soft spot for the young guns coming through. You know. I love raina a lot. One of my favorite moments of the year was the i wrote that the goal against psg holdings on the floor of the camera angle coast to hold on the full celebrating and go rhino. Knoxville committed a shot like two young puppies just like job each other. So so wholesome just folklore. And i think he's going to be a potential bondo winner. Jeremy and i don't think that's a massive overstatement he's got i think he's got way. More potential polasek added the h. Actually creating rb degree and put a i think he's a player than pulisic. Was that age and that is saying something because you say extraordinary very highly. Right on is amazing. Fatty just makes me happy. Every time i same artist love him joy. Yeah plays that. Bring you joy at the moment. The my go-to and i think that a lot of that comes with the youthful. Naievty the these guys. I don't know how great they are. They don't know that they're applets in all these records like youngest player to score for spain youngest player going classical youngest by school for boss lowering youngest players going champions league football salerno all of this stuff you know for raina. Youngest americans start in the champions league youngest american or is it youngest assist maker in champions league or american things assists. Yeah all of this stuff like they just don't know where they probably do know but they don't care because these also what noma sisters lisa crunch time these a pivotal does so yeah. I probably those two in the primarily. Probably thomas party or not just because i lived in athletic Someone who. I never thought awesome sign but in that way and i still can't believe boston going to be honest. Credible there's a there's a crop sometimes of like la league central midfielders. That i think are just fun. He is just one kant. Believe awesome also. You'd love associated season. Where i would need this. You live in san sebastian. Go much brown sauce in every every other week. Saucy dot is one of those clubs where you look at the players go what it many for the leaf and you go there. Yeah leaves on not place. Is that to as if anyone hasn't been the best in. This isn't an ad. We're not working for the basque country tourist board though yet paul one day we shall exactly rice cooker. Richard nine rice. Cahoon data goodness nacho hundred. I'll of josh. Can you like less than an hour from bilbao. Bilbao is unbelievable. It's just that whole strip is and the food man the food gun hang out with job lonzo goodness me all right. Let's move on savings question here from marshall. Saint patrick ewing shots. The machine potty. Greg clock has resigned. Slush been moved on. But what does that really change so for those. You missed it. Fa while now former chairman. Greg clock resigned last week or was nudged after using outdated language but also just coming up with a wig point we we were talking about it in the south group and basically the faa have got an opportunity now to make a good higher. Yep and when you're dealing with spoke consisting of players from very diverse backgrounds get ahead of the operation that kind of reflects that or at least understands the diversity in the understood understand. Yeah like someone said That was a lot of common and this is the thing noise about. This conversation is the childishness which is conducted. Oh he's off his time. He said this he said that. All policing language okay. His bing people make mistakes or say city things or say ignorant things all the rest of it right. People are entitled to say with things that's the world society to be living living. Save it for the private members club. Save for the gulf coast for job and a position which is not rely upon you serving the needs of a broad range of constituents if your a doctor and you come out with comments about people in your community what it means is you might not be looking for right. Socioeconomic factors that trigger certain online symptoms. You look them because you're ignorant because if you'll saying stuff about oh this demographic this professional that profession then for example you might be like. Oh because you don't think that certain professions certain i'm minorities like professions. You might look for muscle strains. Because i'm like oh that guy copying auntie consultant. He's black without person. Can't be a fuller. He's asian whatever it means that your ignorance about these people's actual lives means that you don't spoke challenges that they might be navigating lives. He can't cater for them. That's the thing with greg clock. And i think a lot of people actually know that ryan. I think this conversation isn't really about doing the best work you can. It's because those people who facing a backlash a lot. The people who base initiating the backlash themselves arrogant in their personal lives they themselves. The projecting babe himselves cruel and mean and oh ignorant or whatever all three and they see. When clark has been cooled. The like that could have been me. Yeah and the thing is here. There's no debate this like unfortunately with with the contest over the last decade or so with debate and herring both sides. Actually when one side is wrong the wrong. Yeah they're onto sized story when there is a natural wrong thing here yes. Greg clock was fundamentally wrong. What you did. And i don't care if he's if a certain age you are representing an organization that is made up of really diverse set of members. Do the fucking work because the work isn't that hard. But i think it's i think. This is a cassette on twitter about daily mail targeting. Marcus rash foot for him by properly a couple of questions about that so maybe we could segue into that. Because yeah chris shoot worrell would love to his side thoughts on that newspaper the size signing marcus rush which was fair game and we had Another one from john lockin. What your thoughts on the absolute muck that was the article written about shriver the weekend to be honest with you that newspaper for longtime mclovin newspapers and fundamentally the paper generally follows. The mood of the read is evidently gets things wrong. Fundamentally provides a service he saw when the sunday did with hillsborough marcus. Russia's greatest crime to them was allowing children. I only two eight but to dream because they look marcus rush foot you came before he came from and he basically built an expertise and skill set golden expertise in a skillset used that platform to inspire millions and his greatest crime is going to be on now. It's like he questioned the basis of the wealth that he was making a questioned. The basis society in hurt rewards in her doesn't he didn't just take his money and shutoff racist crime. He took his money because he said things could be better. And that is immensely threatening. Its immensely threatening but this is why like call said. We're on rice house last week. Diversity in journalism is so vital. It's absolutely by to the more easy for everyone to access the gray of the quality of the work. Good every move onto a breakfast. Let's have this for financial crows. Dan can union make it to top four in the bundesliga. Bugai's be safe and take care. It's really show answer ready. Sorry but no resources resources resources even even even even in the medium to long-term nike not yet in terms in terms of vibes. That champions league no question. Art harris on max cruiser in the same yeah jars. Well you're showing showing up. Yeah showing up showing out. We had a load of things about tobin. 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Chris Fowler Joins To Talk Sevilla, Southampton

Chelsea Mike'd Up

49:49 min | 7 months ago

Chris Fowler Joins To Talk Sevilla, Southampton

"We've got two very different draws a breakdown on this week's edition of Chelsea Mike plus a massive match against Manchester United Glory fixture being promoted. The Voice of College, Football joins us a proper Chelsea Fan Chris Ballard. A legendary broadcaster joins US here on Chelsea Mike up all that and more Vamanos A. Swag. Right mentioned it in the Intro to draws to react to hear before a massive match with Manchester United a match that we're all a little bit more nervous about considering Manchester United look pretty damn good in Paris. Get in the upset victory on the road at PSG. Let's talk about Chelsea though. Draw that featured six goals and Trou- that featured zero let's begin with the most recent result some more positive of the to naturally because Chelsea never lead in that game. So you didn't have blown lead. So let's go with the bright spot Edward Mindy a second clean sheet in his third appearance. This is honestly unheard of given the recent form of Chelsea goalkeepers even though check appears to be an option for US slapping my forehead why didn't I have that take oh my God I'm going to set the. Internet off wire had no idea. The door was open petr check friend of the POD. Edward Mindy. Calming, influence not spectacular. However, a lot of the goals are chosen you've been conceding Chris have been unspectacular to be able to have the bait in just the routine in this goalkeeper is pretty huge and it did seem like he was a calming influence along that back lime. This appears to be the most stable of the back line options for Frank Lampard. I know he was quoted before the game saying he loves. Quito brings to the table especially from cohesion standpoint, but he can't deny the talent that is reshaped I think you and I both tend to agree with them. there. I don't want to make the mistake of taking such a macro view. So let's look at one of the things that trouble Chelsea in the eyes of many many Americans for the. Three halves a football before frank finally made the decision to move. Christian Pulisic back to the left wing. We saw a lot of Christian lining up on the right side although to me it appeared like he was playing more of a second striker role. I don't know if that's to give room for kyw habits more natural drifting into the right or to clear out room. For James. It was curious because you're asking a lot defensively of Christian Pulisic off of all these soft tissue injuries I'm a little nervous. But what do you make of Frank Lampard Lining Christian Pulisic on the right to start these matches? It's a different way of trying to get the balance right in the team. Right? So I, think the first time you play against Southampton. Gweat to behind him, and so I do think there's a little bit of Christian Pulisic? This is your wing go and do your thing down this right hand side as it does not really the bombing on type, and so you allow him to kind of lead that side of the attack whereas I think in the second, you have restrains behind him. Then I think you're kind of forcing them to pinch inside and really play in his less comfortable flank and I think even how well Christian Pulisic, boss that left hand side it really does seem. All the best players play down the left, right. The right footed players have in Maine name our place down that side Rinaldo play down that when he was a winger like generally that is the creative spot the spot I don't know why more so than the right hand side, but it just is and Pulisic was so comfortable there that I think you want to see him work off of Chiloe, which is the combination that we've talked about for weeks now after they signed him and. I think ultimately, this is part of an experimentation Mason Mount in my opinion can play anywhere. He played down the right down the left in the middle a bit further behind. So I think that's not the issue I. Don't think you're you're saying I want to play Mason down the left I. Think it's more frank must've seen something with how maybe police it could work down the right and how that might be an improvement I think given at halftime it's switched in the Soviet match that. May Be going forward. This will be a more permanent thing. Yeah. I. It seemed as so Frank Lampard notice what everybody else notice which is okay. We know that Christian COMPLA- on the right now and he did have some creative moments there in that first half against Avia but I think we all prefer Christian on the left and if the Southampton match taught us anything is we never want team over on the left unless it's for a cup tie and we're just trying to get. Some squad rotation there because that is a tried and true center forward even though he could have had a better match against severe I. Guess a lot of the frustration from certain fans why are acquiescing the left to Mesa amount if he can play anywhere why does he have to play there and I saw a lot of theories like well Mason Mount defensively for forward is one of the best in the world with his pressing and his motor, not necessarily gifted with pace, but at ten. On the defensive end that can compensate for some of your deficiencies on the defensive end and true well, lining up on that left. Why not compensate by having a more defensive wing in Mason Mount to which I say, why are you signing bench? This is we shouldn't be diluting the purest cut of Chelsea's attack because we're worried about defensive deficiencies. Otherwise, you don't sign a player like Ben Chill. What did you make of the other change that frankly and part made taking Georgina off and bringing Kovachevich on I thought that pivot worked better with Kovacic and Kante an Kovachevich obviously, we've spoken a lot about his dribbling acumen and how we can get you out of sticky situations. But defensively, and just from a pay standpoint, this might be the better way to go even though some of the service from Georgina team over ner especially in that first half was appetizing. You could see exactly what he can bring to the table but I think if. We're just putting our tried and true best starting eleven. It doesn't have Georgina in that midfield considering the defensive assignments these players must have with such attacking talent and ultimately Frank Lampard job is to find the balance of all these skills right. So we've been asking what's the best midfield to play in behind Harvard's if you insist on him is the number ten and I think as you mentioned, Georgina has a range of passing and kind of a command on the ball that you don't get from content Kovic controversy as remarkable defensive abilities to counters and kind of lead presses forward, and then Kovic has the ball carrying ability and a bit more of the passing although not as good as Jorgihno. Kante. So how do you marry all these skills? Is the question I agree with you in the sense that this game I think called for a bit more solidity in that middle because Georgina was never going to get the time just as for me the same in the Southampton Game, which is why he not a couple of balls and behind he's never going to get the time to boss the game in the way that Jorgihno in a game where you're keeping sixty five percent possession does I think without that ability to do that? That's where you need Cova kitchen that ability to work out of trouble which I think he does better and as you mentioned that defensive mobility via credit to. Them and they're approaching Southampton as well. A couple of teams have come to the bridge press. Them made their distribution from the back uncomfortable with severe today as well and severe certainly did better than Southampton to keep possession as well, and and really take the game to Chelsea. So I think they were handed a few different kinds of games. The we're used to seeing Chelsea struggle in. Southampton with their presence via press plus possession were really able to make. Chelsea uncomfortable I think beyond the fact they're Jorgihno was probably one counterattack away from being sent off. It was a situation I think presented itself for Kovic. Chris. I'm trying to process exactly how I feel about this result because on the surface. These are predicted to be the two teams in their group. Right? This is the home leg. You should win this one right in previous years. I would be disappointed about dropping points at home against via but. Via were very organized. That is a sound defensive squad. They made things difficult on Chelsea and I guess I'm so encouraged by the fact that Chelsea had a clean sheet that I'm willing to accept that trawl also because we never lead far more than I am with Southampton game which was disastrous and these are the games. Are you sort of circle on the calendar in when you look at what looks to be a pretty competitive top four battles especially looking at the top of the table now with the likes of Aston Villa and Everton surprisingly atop the table that's one that got away from you and the second goal in particular was just mistake that can't happen and I've been extremely patient. On. Social Media in the heat of the moment in my group chats even do a degree and especially on this podcast where I've had the benefit of time to collect myself but it's real struggle obviously for kept this is not about piling on to. The situation is what it is. World's richest keeper Yada Yada that Poe came and went I'm worried about the man that is playing that position and worried about my football team naturally because I'm a supporter of Chelsea football club whatever kept it is going through right now whatever it is between the years timing communication issues, new teammates, the reasonable explanations for it however, he's had three errors. Two goals this season, he has the worst save percentage in the primarily undeniably talent because of the price tag that was associated with him and he is a European champion. He won the Europa League final with Chelsea. So you know he has the credentials to be successful member of this team but for whatever reason right now, it's a struggle. Frank Lampard gave him plenty of chances and back them up in a way this year that I honestly wish he backed up last year I don't think Chelsea can suffer through any more of kept trying to figure it out on the pitch you're dropping big time results at this point because they're. GonNa come back and haunt you. This is the more competitive Premier Leagues we've seen in our lifetimes as premier league fans I can't be suffering through losses defeats draws blown leads at home to the likes of Southampton. It's not working out I truly can't make a sound argument for why you put kept a back out there now that mindy is healthy I think now that Mendez healthy is important caveat because he wasn't at the weekend he would have started. Had he been in? I'm actually surprised that he looked this good when I think the recovery time for his injuries probably looked like it was going to be longer Franklin part was saying. You know the the severe game could be a doubt. But I kind of wonder if it's a man, we need you right now because Kappa makes this mistake. Now I will say in fairness DECAPA I like you I'm always in fairness decapa guy we should rename the pot in fairness. KAPPA. We've let a lot of segments. That backpass from Zuma it was really bad that plays a role I. Don't know why Kappa doesn't go with his hands out to try and get the ball and then obviously scramble and then by then you've conceded but I do think that Kurt Zuma's mistake plays a role there as well and I think is well, we should say that even though you know Chelsea gave up this late equaliser to Southampton Southampton were on top of the game for large portions that second half they were making Chelsea uncomfortable it wasn't Just about the mistakes that kept them make also a second phase from a free kick. We've seen Chelsea struggle with that before and Theo. Wolcott just put shot through takes into and it goes in the defensive issues in this game for me weren't just about kappa although again, you see an increased sense of confidence an improvement in defending when Mendis in the game and it just looks totally different from Chelsea's point TV. When he's in the game I agree with you, Chris it was a bad pass from Kurt Zuma. Now has to be better with that pass. He steps over the ball and it goes past and then we have a situation which Christianson makes one of the defensive plays of the season for Chelsea and we don't want to talk about it. I. Don't know how that wasn't a handball. I really don't understand how it stayed in Christianson bombs in nowhere kept a seemingly forget that he could use his hands after cushion fought all the way back to make an unbelievable sliding play. Use. Your hands at the very least if you're gonNA use your feet, kick it out if Southampton is going to seize on these mistakes. Liverpool Manchester United Manchester. City will too I. Think it's finally time for us it collectively say. To fight through it, we can't live through suffering through these mistakes right now it's a very fragile point in career. I've told you time again in Paris. As the spin off his I like the kid a lot I think it's born at of competitiveness he wants to be out there. He wants to figure it out. It's just not going his way and there's something larger here. It's just not a stroke of bad luck at this point. So hopefully, Chelsea of solved the goalkeeping issues with Edward, Mendy I feel confident in them. I'm not screaming in my home anymore. So that is. A very low bar admittedly. But you're just begging to not concede more than two goals in these matches because Chelsea at the potent attack to carry you, they scored three goals. I. Probably should have had a fourth, but you're asking a lot of your world-class attackers for them to put away every chance. So hopefully, Kevin can do better and hopefully can figure this thing out and for the sake of the football club hopefully Chelsea. Don't have to suffer the results while he does figure that out Chris Fowler in American play by play legend I'm a fan of his work with college football tennis. pregame host extraordinaire and calling the biggest college football games in the nation a tried and true. Chelsea. Fan Making his Chelsea miked up debut Chris Wittingham, your broadcaster. You hold this man in high regard. Don't you? Yeah. I mean. This is as professional like if you could typify a type of grass in terms of preparedness in terms of that delivery actually I love him on tennis the way that he delivers. A tennis match for me like you put it on Wimbledon in the morning it's just it's soothing. He is exactly everything you want out of a broadcaster in my opinion. Well, let's find out if he is soothing when he's watching his Chelsea F. C or if taps into a more primal version of Chris Fowler, let's figure that out together as he joins us here on Chelsea Mike up for the first time. Watch every minute of every match download the fifth stand the official Chelsea APP. All right. This is one of the dream guests yet again for Chelsea mic`ed up hot streak right now neutral observer Chris Wittingham. I know you do a lot of broadcasting for Inter Miami and through the in your history and you've been the voice of several Las Vegas Lights. Games. Gambling addicts no you all too well from but this is a legendary broadcaster and with all due respect to you what he this is, my favorite broadcasts are on the zoom screen right now, Chris Fowler, the Voice of College football both for pre game and now just regular games. Chris Valor the most prepared broadcaster I've heard legendary stories about how and I need you to confirm this Mr. Fowler you would host college game, day without the aid of a prompter. Correct. What's The prompter? What is this you speak of? Now we we UNSCRIPTED show it was formatted but loosely I had got note cards that look something like this. I used to write in a bullet points on. This is not a game day carbon that kind of thing, and it wasn't scripted but we we got through it an you can't. You couldn't do a teleprompter a, it'd be hard to see outside the glare off of it and this the thing changed. So often that you'd be, you'd be going back to your computer and retyping we'd be wasting so much time. So yeah, we we just winged it. It was it was fun twenty five years fool people now for those with the benefit of seeing the visual aid. To this, you know that Chris Fowler is wearing a t shirt and he's feeling that shirt out much better than either of US could Chris, Wittingham but most of these Chelsea matches their on while while you were doing your college game day duties. Now it's a bit different with you actually calling the games. So how would you go about your Chelsea Weekends Given Your College Game Day responsibilities. You had a few years ago. It was hard for Game Day for sure the game to up until two thousand fifteen and you'd have to disregard games. There's no way you could watch them while you're getting ready for the show or on the show the GIG I have now. My Saturday. Mornings free and believe me wherever I. Am I'm finding a game on game day. The guy that said of there was the research appears on the show as well. The Bear Chris leaker he's an arsenal fan. So he would be very in tuned to what my priorities were. Saturday morning he would keep me up at the scores. We would give each other a hard time about the gunners and the blues but there were more people than you think who are lovers of college football but also have their favorite premier league team and it's kind of a secret society. But I, I've found a way to keep up with the Games and obviously always watch the. Extended highlights and then recorded him watching later but it was much tougher the Game Day you're so Saturday, morning games you're right I imagine you ended up becoming like a second half of the season Kinda guy after the college football season is over your all over every game but why Chelsea wh what was the genesis behind your Phantom in picking Chelsea everybody asks that they assume that I came on board in two thousand five or something I was down from the dark years in the middle eighties there in the second division and in trying to get up and you guys are old enough to remember Pat Nevin. But there is a guy named patent avenue was A. Entertaining. Very speedy guys a lot of goals and he was interesting the reason why because I when I visited London I stayed in hotel that was near San Bridge and so I of got to know that neighborhood I didn't really have a team at that point. I was just out of college and spending some time in London traveling around and sort of like adopted Chelsea because sample bridge was close to where I was staying I didn't have a team and I found out they were not very good. Not picked the right team if I wanted to see trophies raise but that changed obviously and the Root Hill at year is ninety six on wor. Great Fun. As you know, very exciting teams didn't win. The League won a couple of cups. Rude was a colleague of mine at ESPN. Covering soccer. So we always communicate be attacks tax when A. Chelsea. Got A big game, and we talked about those days and I loved him as a player and got to love him as a as a colleague. But that that's when it really caught fire for me. You know into the nineties obviously having some success and then and then you know from here on out and I had I was able to be there. In May twenty seventeen when. Michelle Bachelor I got the late goal that restaurant and that was the three points to secure the the primarily title. I, thought that was a life moment for me because you gotTa Time It upright, which match they do it can. I get there and it worked out perfectly a goal like the eighty eighth minute I. Think it was to to finally secure the points and it was a dream to be a part of that party scene afterwards. I had some good moments in and obviously you know May nineteen twenty twelve is one of the greatest sporting moments in my life as a fan I can't really be a fan of college football because I cover it, it just becomes too professional but I can be a hell of an attic idiotic Chelsea fan and I think soccer has provided me with some of the peak or pinnacle moments fan I was at a nine drop is okay. By all means. Sheryl Crow's a dear friend of arguer, at her house I came in from the pool to watch this game in May that nobody understood what the hell is watching a team from England play a from Germany what it was all about. But yeah, I mean that that was a moment that was a moment that I'll never forget the to win chickens like away nobody gave them a chance that that ranks right up there as a fan the top three moments I've ever experienced that has one hell of flex you and I were both drenched watching the twenty five. got. I. Wish. I had known they're going to win it. What made plans to go you know her but. You were soaking wet with Sheryl Crow's chlorine water, and I was soaking wet with Celebratory Beers at the local pub recipes Fatto, great? Chris House screaming I don't nobody knew what the hell was going on obviously it over the way it looked bleak for a long time and then the header goes I just had no one knew why I'm acting like a maniac at somebody else's house but it was worth I still watch that eighty eighth minute equalizer. Dog I once a month and I still have no idea how he got it in from that angle and the rollercoaster of emotions even after that moment drogba, the hero that equalize actually concedes a penalty. But. The entire time I just felt like after we got that equaliser in the eighth minute no one the road that Chelsea took in two thousand twelve being down a man against Barcelona and finding their way. There I'm not I'm not a big team of destiny guy or at least I wasn't before twenty twelve. But after that equaliser even African seen in the penalty I was like it's going to happen for us. There's the. Penalties, you had no tension in the when the penalties were taken against a German side like that. I don't know man I still it's still hard for me to forget. Moscow. Against United Map I just said please. Don't understand. They don't get it how excruciating it is to be a fan of this when you when you love a team alive, you know win their off. You're just anxious looking to concede get when they're behind it. It's like there's desperate right very few people. Outside of soccer pants can understand that specific dynamic maybe ice hockey's like that in Seneca finals in the similar nature to the scoring. But there's nothing quite like the the torture that quick through as. Well you mentioned worried that the other team might score and you're conceding that that's happening a lot more to Chelsea than it did in the days of two, thousand twelve and a little bit earlier when Sanford Bridge was a fortress. I. My Neutral Observer Co host Chris Wittingham always gives me some grief over the fact that I kind of like a little bit more anti football football I like them more defensive minded approach has. Wins Man. We I know your community give me more boring wins and I don't want to be the entertainers I mean look if you're a neutral I get it. Chris. If you're a neutral yeah Everton seventy scores five six that's fine. When it's your team at, we're not used to that, right? Mike. We're just not built for that especially at home conceding the south happens to be up to Nilanthi to and and share the points I was just livid I got my Saturday off to a bad start I mean I. Got Over it, but I not use it. I'm with you man, I I want I want. I want that Blue Wall back. There I want I. Want a strong. Shows Marino steal back for their. Chris Wittingham just can't believe preference when we tell him Biden especially now club that identify so much with success in the hardware backup that success I want to win just a natural winner I gotTa have the winds from Chelsea and by playing the south they're still finding a way to to wrack up some hardware and still add to their legacy. Even though they're experimenting with new styles and I actually saw the league final with you that sorry year was a bit of a Ro- roller coaster. What's the one Chelsea match that stayed with you through a game broadcasts that you just couldn't shake it? Oh, man I mean there's been some Champions League performances that a bit of stay with me that I that that's not through a broadcast because we're obviously done but they've ruined me I mean, I didn't overreact to the severe sharing the points because I know what happened the last match to begin the championship when you lose Valencia That's just a bad way to start it I, you know I the Champions League we all want to hang around and make a run and anything is possible. mean the Chelsea is going to be an incredible competition way the way that the leagues in Europe are a little bit upside down and the Premier League right now but I think that you just want to get. Off on a good foot I mean I've I've losing a an FA. Cup final. I came across to watch and lose to the gunners when we I was I was a tough well. We we still had a great time and they had already won the league. So it was it was offered a little bit but you don't you don't like to lose a major trophy arsenal. The ones that are happening this time. Of Year I'm not ready to fall on a sword yet, but it's those ones when when it gets cranked up when it starts to mean a lot in the spring and when they get Champions League play, those losses are tough. You know I wanted to ask you about what Chris Fowler the Chelsea Fan is like in his living room because we know you as perfectly professional broadcaster we don't know you as crazed soccer fan. Can you put us in the room with you? Is there shouting curses at the television? Do you? Behave in the manner that others, sports and soccer fans do yes. I do when I'm at home I have to explain to my wife Okay Chelsea is on. Okay. So she knows what that means. It does not not just watching another random game where I'm interested in I want to be entertained. This means a lot to me so I might get a little mental you just have to understand there might be some yelling I might be in a bad mood I might be in a good mood, but she learns to understand the National League it'll be around it. But I like to I like to fight. It's hard in the morning matches I. Kinda like the ones that are later on I split time between New York and Miami. So going down there and you know there's there. Chelsea. Fans mother texting I'm hanging out with depending on where am and you know it's it's fun I. Love to watch a game in a pub and that's that's that's obviously what what the sport is built for. It's one of the reasons why it's so globally popular, right? So but I'm a little I'm not. I'm not proud I'll my behavior in my Time. When I was a little I was a little tweak on Saturday morning. I've yelled blank Zuma a few times. I. Mean dammit. Zuma damage. Zuma. I mean the civilian. Just, terrible clearance at the end of the first half, this is not good. This is not good. If they concede there I think it's GONNA be a tough row back. It was hard to breakdown that defense the Chances Review verner decide. One of those Games wasn't liking it wasn't. It wasn't an a game finishing game for him and they were having a hard time and I. I've just about had a panic attack that is absolute. They're gonNA probably go for both these teams go through right so you don't you don't get crazy but that that's the kind of thing on the heels of what I saw Saturday would have made me crazy to concede often murphy. Yeah I find myself. Honestly being a lot more patient with this manager just because he's bought so much capital with US Chelsea fans then I would for Murray Te'o. Sorry I would get frustrated and that was also a little bit closer to the sustained run of success and there's a rebuilding now going on Chelsea and you could do a hell of a lot worse in terms of a rebuild the they absolutely reloaded they've brought in world class talent. This could be the start of another run, but they very clearly need time to gem as squad sands right now what's your main takeaway? Well, it's what you said I mean they're they're just we're. Not used to seeing them concede it's very exciting. So Fun to watch. It's so fun to be that team that has the fresh injection of young talent. Obviously guys I mean having politic on the team is just enormous for me. I mean is a guy that I liked a lot I? Mean obviously I'm a huge fan of the US men's national team and having him improve his game for that side by being with Chelsea and having him be able to prove people wrong. Who say they just signed this guy to sell shirts in America I can't tell you how many times that accounted arguments shut the up wait till you see the guy. Play way you see his speed is spoke work. His Jelly is skill with the ball I. Mean you're going to see that he bought more than belongs right and he showed right away up that he belonged I want him to get physically bully bit now but I, mean for me that's a huge part of this team is really having Christian on the team and then obviously you spend a lot of money when you get Everton burner, you expect fireworks I just as we said, I, don't want to have to win games five four and four three I wanNA have it all don't you want to have an exciting open offense dynamic you want. To have people, you want to have a team that can lock people than I think mindy getting back I mean we've all been there's a little bit we we were talking. You know it's there's an Astra, some of these performances because we got to figure out what's going on inside kept his head. It's possible to do that, and some of the howlers are just on that and some of the the results have been on that too. So I'm very glad to see many back and I think it's going to bring stability and it's nice to clean shape and not the most dynamic side they face that it's nice to have to do that right To answer your question in a long to what? Yes. I'm very excited going forward and I'm willing to live with the growing pains in the frustration head scratching moments because I think that they are arguing in in the right direction and have a foundation laid that can they can bear fruit for years to come. They'll be fun to watch. It added that one and ask a follow up on Christmas because you mentioned him in that answer, you covered the two thousand, ten World Cup for ESPN, in South Africa which is kind of like a before and after moment for the coverage of soccer in this country and I think from there, it's kicked. On and you see NBC with the primarily again CBS with the champion Champions now dedicating real resources and quality towards covering soccer competitions. But you saw the US then and it was you know the plucky Americans right? That was always there narrative on the world stage but the record is the back of Christian Pulisic starting for Chelsea but there were five Americans that appeared in the Champions League just today, which is a record. So when you see the growth of the American game from ten years ago I know we obviously had the hiccups of not qualifying for the world. Cup but it's still pretty incredible progress that's attack way to put Heck No. It's the most maddening hiccup ever. I I I'm with you. Let me let just say one thing about the twenty ten world cup getting a chance to host that in South Africa was absolute lifetime highlight for me and sitting with Alexi Lalas in Pretoria going with the Mavericks Algieria I. Mean. They're going to lose and they're going to not go through. They're going to not go through and it's going to be shocking that dot goal call. So amazingly by in dark. Goose, by probably heard that one hundred times but to watch that unfold Howard's outlet the build up and then the goal and to watch it next to Alexi guys. Okay. So he's like Mr Ed white and blue. He was dying inside and a little bit outside to at the way that match was unfolding that they were GonNa get stopped and not go through, which was obviously the bare minimum to be an acceptable result, and then they have everything changed to go from being out to winning the group with that goal was another one of those moments for me and I got to be a fan. Like I wasn't doing anything at that game than watching I did the post game with Alexi Baer both like four feet off the ground. But to go ahead and then and and then hosts that that final was just an amazing thing in. You're right for America to go from back plucky team, which was scraping inclined to find a goal and trying to outworked people outfitting them to now actually having a nucleus of young Skilling it's is it eight or ten guys on champions? League rosters I think it's as you said today though it gets even more than that. They're in the competition so it's awesome. Christian and those guys will get better for the experience WanNa close with the upcoming match against Manchester United Chelsea have of course in the fifth stand up the play predictor game, you can make your predictions on not just the score, but a bunch of different details and win prizes. So Chris Fowler looking ahead to Manchester United at the weekend these two clubs played. Four Times. Last year, what is your prediction for the game on Saturday I hope that united have a massive hangover I. Hope they go out in Paris and they celebrate the victory. PSG, which is a massive result for them champions I. Hope They Drink Champagne Overeat and then stumble back and make they can't even move on the weekend that would really be nice. I don't think we can count on that. I. Mean they're coming off of that. That's a massive results I. Don't know if they build on that I don't know if is I mean it's weird ever being a letdown for United Chelsea game but and I don't know what to make. They got some things sorted out there. I just encouraged to elicit getting closer a hundred percent many being back I mean obviously. United fans who were friends of mine and it's it's obviously. We all do that at the because they're all bunch of people that jump on the bandwagon for the last twenty years around the world. So there's a lot emotionally whenever those teams play. I'm hopeful I'm not gonna be I mean, I'm not GonNa lie to you. I mean that means more than the others I am based on what I saw today am more hopeful. All Right Chris Fowler making his debut appearance here on Chelsea miked up. Hopefully it's the first of many. Sir We hold you in the highest regard immense respect for what you do broadcasting wise and and you're Chelsea fandom it's a different it's a potty mouth Chris. Valley. Is Winning A. Milk There was. I believe myself. Yes. Kristie wind up an example but it's like I'm not saying it's PG thirteen language. When when Chelsea I haven't heard a lot of PG thirteen language to the bridge had been there either so I'm just I'm the same as everybody just want us to return to the Times. We can go in there and watch his games in person part of it is a little. It's a little bit bitter sweet to watch you know that beautiful place empty and know that it's we. Don't know when we're GONNA be able to get back there but whenever they're allowed to put fans back in there I'm going to elbow my way in there because I've been I've been missing desperately. We can do this again and we'll bring it on dominic team or bringing a few other Chelsea people I'm sure you should have you ever had him on the PODCAST DON team is. Now that yeah. Now we we communicate about that use a big Chelsea Fan. So I don't know his story where he is obviously a lot younger than I am. So you probably came into the club when they were already winning hardware, but but he is a huge huge Chelsea Fan. So Ball get together I'm sure we we can watch together at some point that'd be fun absolutely Chris Collar thank you again for joining us here on Chelsea Mike. You look like fine I got thicker. Final stretch here of Chelsea Mike Depp in an event eventful episode, we have a massive match with Manchester United. We'll get into previewing in just a second, but I want to highlight one of the supporters clubs Chris, and is this support? Is there a lot of these I've come to find? It's a supporters club actually watch a couple of matches with not one but two. I watched that famous Karabakh Cup final that Marine Patio. Sorry Kappa. added. Unfortunately Chelsea didn't come away with a cup of Cups in his match up at Wembley but my wife and I had a great time watching this match with the Atlanta Blues Atlanta Blues. I feel like I'm a family member of the Atlanta Blues I've been able to watch more than one game with you guys they reach out to us and they shared their club story Chris and remember for the people that WanNa share their clubs stories make sure to. Check out. The show notes in the episode description to find out how you can be highlighted Chris tell us about the wonderful Atlanta Blues. The Atlanta Blues are very proud of their charitable efforts beyond just getting together to watch Chelsea matches. They come together to support community their community by raising funds, donating food and volunteering for charities in January Twenty Sixteen, October two, thousand seventeen may twenty eighteen hill football trivia events to raise funds for the Food Family Fujii's. Families a nonprofit organization committed to empowering minds, rebuilding lives for young refugees and twenty eighteen there in a food drive for the Atlanta Food Bank of the partner with our houses homeless shelter in downtown Atlanta, and they've also come together to work on a bunch of different efforts kick it out and the anti-defamation League, which of course, is a huge effort within Chelsea as well. So Atlanta, very proud of their charitable efforts and there are all kinds of amazing. Things that supporters clubs do all over the country in Atlanta Blues? Certainly one of them Atlanta trying to lay claim to the soccer capital of the south great support for their MLS side. I. Think there MLS team is top ten in the world in attendance obviously pre pandemic. So if you're ever in the Atlanta area, look up the Atlanta Blues a great bunch of people to watch a Chelsea match with before we get into our Manchester United Preview Chris. Light, the crazy week that was I feel like we're on repeat here in the Premier League another insane weekend Everton and Liverpool Virgil Van Dyke the headlining story out of this match a massive injury for Liverpool. This is not the time for me to say that the League has caught up to Liverpool, but they've conceded Liverpool has a ton I think entering that weekend they conceded more than anybody else in the premier league and that was with Virgil Van Dyke a guy who you could point to and say that's a footballer of the year previously. So what does? Liverpool do now because the transfer window is closed, what are their options? Can they stop the bleeding along that back and this is now a genuine fight I feel for the top four Liverpool find themselves in one hundred percent I this from opens up the title race I know you've been saying that you think that Liverpool been figured out a little bit but given the start of everyone else in the league I thought Liverpool was GonNa cruise to this title. If Virgil Van Dyke was healthy eventually they were going to stop conceding goals. They've had moments at times although. Nothing, like this. Would they've given away goals but as you said, they exit this weekend having given away the most goals and apparently they were tied with West Brom and West Brom played out a goalless draws right now tied with thirteen goals conceded from five games and it's a big concern with Virgil Van Dyke and I, think what you're gonNA see in terms of their adjustment is then become a bit more like what they were before. Alison. AVERGE event out there which was this really open team attacking pressing because if they don't have that remarkable quality at the back. then. You'RE GONNA. Have to compensate for it in some way I think we're going to see Liverpool actually opened up even more to compensate for the fact that they don't have as much at the back Ridge of dyke was always there to put out fires felt like Liverpool Warren is fun the last couple of years with Virgil Van Dyke because the games were his open and US have a certain solidity with playing with him that you don't otherwise and so I think now that without it, they're going to see Liverpool kind of become for me more fun but also I think they're gains become more open and we'll see if they can basically outscore teams in their way towards having success they were able to do before. He got there looking at this through the blue prism of Chelsea Phantom. If you thought, those games were wide open between these two sides to be four holy cow these games that were already plenty of fine have just gotten a lot more fun and even though I know my position here on this show and I'm constantly positioned as the guy that's anti Liverpool and my mentions always blow up anytime you guys. Like, get a draw at this point it's weird but that side without allison so made a Champions League final. So we're in a very competitive premier league chase I think the story with the primarily league, all the other teams I don't think this is sustainable for us in Villa we'll find out, Ross? Barkley. Seems to be an amazing edition for Aston Villa, just two matches in we've been down that road here Chelsea and Everton's been down that road with Ross Barkley to let's see how long this can be sustained without some villa because I my questions Everton that's A. Different story I have faith in that manager they have top quality players and this was supposed to be a result that okay. Everton that was a nice cute story but Liverpool, the Champs are here to talk you back into the fact that you're. Everton. Didn't happen I think they are certainly going to be in the top four chase. Now, if you're never ten pain, you're talking title with Virgil Van Dyke Injury Jordan. Pickford, I know that was controversial I. Don't think that that's realistic. Even though if you're crazy Everton homer, you can't help but get the saucer is but. This isn't one of those teams that's going to be fighting for European position alongside Chelsea I think and those I hate playing at Everton I, hate it I hate it so much. It's a house of nightmares that now becomes a massive picture for Chelsea's top forays, the title chase and the top or race this year more than any other year that we've certainly been doing this podcast or just been talking about the permanently together seems to be in lockstep with title chase a top four we're on the precipice I feel of a very dramatic season in the premier. League. And boy. I saw plenty of tweets about how the League is opened up for Tottenham especially at three zero. But if you thought for one damn second here on Chelsea, my dad, we weren't GonNa Make Fun of Tottenham Hotspur for blowing a three to nil lead. In the eighty second minute, they were leading three zero. That is literally never happened in premier. League. History. Stunning. I cannot believe West. Ham Of all teams pulled this off spurs obviously a massive miss. Because that is a front running manager if he gets you to buy in your drinking, the Kool aid and all of a sudden, you have a lot of positive momentum. Everyone was saying I saw Arlos like so much for. Josie Marino being watched so may ring true but the fact that they can see three after Gareth Bale comes on which Nice Day out on the Greens for Gareth. Bale. three-under-par. Great to see. Clap it up. Great Story I cannot believe this it is. So Spurs -I they're inventing ways to be Spurs. That is primarily regular season result that is going to be remembered forever Oh for sure I. I remember I was actually on the Air I'd I'd I work on NFL coverage. Limi- dolphins and I to the corner of the goal winning I stood up and was fist pumping in I'm doing the show from my living room like it was such a momentous moment that Gulf flying into the top corner but it goes back to something we were talking about earlier with with Chris Fowler you and Chris Fowler Big Fan of the defensive stylings. Of Josie Marino. It's hard to pull that off now and I know that I mean there's never scenario. Josie. Marino team pre man united that would ever happen to them and that's the most stunning thing is that because it was funny, you know at this three goals in sixteen minutes Tottenham, you know at that moment. Joe's as already talking about because he's already kind of jabbed at this Oh. If I'm such a defensive manager, how are we scoring so many goals like you can tell he's getting ready like that feeling of projecting the confidence that he's got this team humming and playing well, and now it's right back down to earth they're playing in. Europa League as well and that feeling of tottenham with Sun and Kane look like two of the five best players in the League in that game in the way that they're playing right now without that result tobacco now I'll be curious to see how they respond and where they are in the context of all these other teams they're supposed to be at the top end that have had their struggles this season, the crazy Yoyo of the premier league season we were throwing dirt on the grave of Manchester City they get a pretty remarkable considering how we've seen them play, and the fact that they were missing Katie a workmanlike one nil victory over. Bucknell, who also is now this conversation is hey, topor tolley open to teams like us a surprising result there and want to talk about the crazy Yoyo of the Premier League Manchester, united, Helter, skelter all over the place I can't keep up right now they'll enter this match against Chelsea as odds on favourite I imagine given the recent form a big victory in the Premier League for one I believe, and then this massive result EPA g all Gunnar Shar does he have another overthink in him because he thought that FA Cup final and he kinda over thought this PSG madge in a similar fashion, but it worked for him Maguire not in the lineup. For that match against PSG more of the same for only or does he tolley zig again and overthink this matchup with? Frank. Lampard a manager that he was doing quite well against until the FA Cup final where he kind of played himself. Well, it's funny because in the eighty six minute you mentioned earlier like how late it was for Tottenham in the eighty sixth minute man united or one one with Newcastle and it's feeling like man they're going to drop points away Newcastle United Seasons off to a dreadful start. Then they scored three goals then they'd be parasite German away from home with as you said, only gonNA social, his tactical acumen is. Question all the time can you make adjustments? Can you do things to? Kinda, short things up you go away from home you're playing may Martin Imbaba in the the the Champions League runners up from a year ago. Can they put together a system to defend because they've just given away such awful goals at times giving up six to Tottenham and and looking really leaky defence can he showed up and he did and he put Luke Sean back three gave axel twin ab who I mean you know he's probably played ten times in the Premier League Max a start away from at psg he was able to figure out a system that allowed them to. Have that platform attack in the always going to have a moment from Rashford a moment from our she alabama from Bruno Fernandes like they have that moment is always from the spot it would appear right? Exactly. Right. It will only come the penalty spot but I think that if he can give them that platform. But when he tried to be a bit more defensive against Chelsea, Cup semifinal that they looked really more abundant, would they couldn't get the ball moving in the attack and they look stayed whereas in this game, it worked I'll be curious tactically highly sets up, but it really could be one of two different things I can set up. To attack, they can set up like that in this game and I think if they sent up to defend, they're gonNA get caught out because I. It's one of those things like we've talked about Chelsea before where if something works and they do it the next game and it doesn't work. This is the second game I feel like if you repeat that game plan that was a specific game plan and I don't think it worked against Chelsea I, think Chelsea do well, I'm predicting a draw in this match because why the hell not I just I'm not GONNA pick against Chelsea in this match I do want to take sock in the fact that. The boogeyman is dead to a degree and now only has to show the world something in this tactical matchup against Frank Lampard. I think this is another ugly draw for Chelsea I. Think it's as simple as this Chelsea do not lose this match against Manchester United, if they can keep Bruno. Fernandes. Off that penalty spot and that's the book on them. That's how they get their goals. Don't make the mistake, keep them off penalty spot and you can get points from this man tell you can win this match. There's a winnable. Match. All the matches in the premier league this winnable baby, Virgil Van Dyke just went out with an injury. All these teams are learning their teammates. It's a pandemic world and I am a pandemic will let's go Chelsea. Let us get some points in this match talking myself into a victory here Chris I'm talking myself and four three pointer I'm going for it. I'm GonNa make the prediction I'm going. To be more positive than you about Chelsea for the first time. In the history of this podcast, I'm a balanced play guy and Manchester United's balance of play in the Premier League. This season has been bad. I thought they were outplayed by Brighton. They got that last minute hundred minute penalty. I thought they were mostly pretty bad for most of the game against Newcastle and then find those individual moments. I don't think that individual moments are enough when you're playing against a fellow big succeed you need to be playing well and Chelsea. Yes. Are you know they played a nil nil in mid week but they played a couple of threes which means they can get three they can attack they can score goals I think they're going to get goals in this game. I think they're gonNA make particularly if. UNITED STICK WITH THIS PSG game plan they're GONNA make United Times look like they're not able to really get into their attacking flow I. Think Chelsea actually going to come I don't wanNA say comfortably win this game they're. GonNa win this game I'm going to steal your line to Chelsea. Oh Wow. All right. So we can't go Chelsea Mike up episode without laughing Tottenham or making two one prediction I`Ma. Go One one in this match and hope that you're right and I'm wrong until we speak again. Chelsea fans. Thanks again to our guest Chris Fowler. Thanks you for listening. Please drop us a rating of five stars on your platform of choice Andrew. Review Pod. Good Mike, your hair look great today anything at all to help boost are standing among the charts that goes a long way I know many. Of You people listening right now already done that and we thank you if you're a new listener and you haven't gotten around to that, please, it'll take two seconds pod. Good Five Stars, Subscribe Rate Review Share Amongst. Your friends will be back at you with a recap episode of this Manchester United Match, which is being advertised here. Chris is one of the biggest matches of the season you get the. Big American SAR and all the sudden Al Michaels is hyping up your game. I'm excited. This is a big fixture. The blood boils when we face. Manchester. United. For the love of God Kurt don't make Chris. Valor. Curse. Your name just just don't make the mistake in the box given the penalty and we can get three points from this match I. Promise you until we speak again everybody up to Charles.

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Men in Blazers 11/09/20

Men In Blazers

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Men in Blazers 11/09/20

"This is rebecca. Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in blazers on the nbc sports network from the embassy row studios in the crap part of bedford and the crackpot of long island it's the blazes podcast we back. Oh chula how are you holding up dating. Not much happens since we lost padre. It's been quite a week. Raj it's been quite a week you talking about the us men's national team getting together for just the second time in twenty twenty. Well not really. But i'm sure we'll speak it nap briefly a little better. That was that was a little thing. Called malection roach an erection the room and add known election. Not doing that. We'll do that later. Don't know anything. Is it because david ice to sports really. You'll find listening listening to sports roach. Well good good. I'm happy we're going to unite this country. We're going to focus on the things we agree on and we're going to go forward. I'm being so positive about everything for now. The election may be. It's kind of like there's been a goal scored and we're waiting to see if somebody comes up with an arm pit that's a little off side or something. They've been counting the they have been barring them. That's why it's taking so long. There was little stock peapod. Actually i'm just shocked that the we have a new president and the names not sell. David thanks again. We don't have a new president but we we've got a president elect. Yes so do colossians. The president-elect's yeah after what felt like the longest penalty shoot our awful time. Really what this week's emotionally been light took brought squeaky boomtime. It did end saturday with a twenty eleven twelve gweru stoppage time winner vibe about the whole thing. I do think that it is important to mark this moment. And i want to thank you for. The couple of youth tweeted over the past couple of days. They do prefer it when we stick to football. And i would say we've never really been about the football. This cost if someone else may wa- is the core of men in blazers. I you support cost. That i've always believed that. It's a deep sense of love and empathy and unity and kindness. That's wa who david. Yeah i mean look i. I may be having a little bit more sympathy for people sort of feel. Sometimes some people in media can be very dismissive of That politics but i'm a lot more sympathetic to people who feel completely disenfranchised by the entire system. But look i think this is a time not to focus on any of that differences or any of the things we complain about. It's time for everybody to come together. I think the one thing we do do and the one thing we do believe in is football is a safe space where we can just love football where you're not a better person if the reds win or if the blues win whether you're read or whether you're a blue fuck we're just here having fun enjoying football enjoyed talking to each other about it and i think you'd have to be the most halton soul to say right now. Also the news of a potential vaccine breaking overnight from our great friends adviser than Be hard pressed for anybody to feel negative at this point. I will say. And i'm going to stick to football for now. The i am i am. I'm just going to say the right now. I feel the same kind relief as it did. When solid ice was far by epoch of justin rey. god. It's crazy to think that joe biden will be the president of the united states in twenty twenty two when the us. Men's national t windsor. I will cup is say you just in an evil so please be the president when the equal pay for women twenty twenty did take another great this weekend and we were both by this one day. Where the parsing of brooke cost legend. Alex trebek's david host of jeopardy since nineteen eighty four forty six years a life. Yeah i mean amazing canadian host and had a long career before jeopardy as well. I don't personally just got over the loss of regis philbin and then to go riding to losing next as well embassy row is many of you know is part of a sony pictures. Entertainment jeopardy is a sony pictures. Entertainment television program so everybody at has taken this really hard personally. I didn't know alex. Particularly well. But i did talk to him And meet him several times and particularly around the time when millionaires. I went on the air in nineteen ninety nine and became a big prime time. Hit an alex was gracious and so Just so generous and so kind about a show that in some ways you know for a second you know. Put some shade on jeopardy in terms of the sort of true via gameshow world. And i wasn't really prepared for him to be as gracious as he was but he trudy wasn't in multiple emmy awards afterwards. When i think. I told you the story that bob barr. I kept on kicking the back of my chair. First i i want an emmy saying you're gonna lose you're gonna lose. You're going to lose alex. Rebecca was never liked that he was just gracious. What a gentleman and uniquely qualified to do that program so much so it's hard to imagine anybody else doing it. Great loss for sony pictures of great loss for american television a great loss for intelligence. And grace you know. I love that bob. Barker story just gives you a insight into football primarily football is cut throat competitive but just a competitive nature of a league game show. host is next level. That is where it gets really. Tough roy keane nothing. Compared to say jack say chat with takeout keyed in a heartbeat was introduced to this world as a kid. When i first came to chicago. Nine eighty six. I stayed down. North shore talk tobias but the blue house stadium. My pen pal. Inefficacy lived a slack along. Stop before twelve say eat. Spend the morning. And i've just written about well. Listen my memoir. I'd spend the whole morning just watching in the guest room television. We had one television in the pool and we had to wheel it room to room. America television in every bloody room even the toilet. Even the shower shower televisions couldn't didn't have to miss one second of just this battery of daytime television shows. I mean they they were. They were genuine wheel of fortune was on a knee in the morning. Jeopardy family feud these are all like a syndicated. Hollywood squares was on. There was an amazing world. Press your luck if anyone watch that. Well no women. No women stay home. I was more this this easy. Come easy go nature of america. You win it all lose it all it. It just everything was bloody possible and favor was jeopardy watching. This man jess mesmerized by the positive cash. That will win the lost one again on that show. I just come cool. This man shebek who gave and took away. But it wasn't. The money was really giving us giving us wisdom and he really talk stage with me. A multi in curiosity america was a place where everyone at least on his show had the shot. And i love the ethos of in-interviews when white does what he does. Because it's hard to do something over and over again forty six years and he said you never have to apologize for acquiring knowledge. Even if it's not going to be of immediate benefit having knowledge makes you better able to understand the world in which we live the more. I know the less surprised. I'm going to be as vape words to live net so true and A great loss and it's interesting. I mean what. He presided over newsweek. About knowledge trivia is something which doesn't have a lot of value to young people today because they can just search for everything on google but there is something about the acquisition of knowledge itself and to be able to recall it at any point which is just phenomenal. it's becoming a lost art. Hope jeopardy though under incredible stewardship of mike richards jeff. Gop's lovely guy who produces jeopardy and wheel of fortune long. may that show continued. Good luck to him trying doing his best to try and find a replacement of some kind for that broadcasting legend robbie mistake is available the oak. Okay both robbie's to amazing Give it to rebecca low. Just give everything to rebecca okay. We've got a packed show. We're going to break down the bellwether matchup that's helped decide. The last three primarily titles man city one livable. One you duck and cover raj as we recap evidence. Three one loss to resurgence. Of course this weekend majesty. United plus harry keane's last-minute when aston villa's beatdown of arsenal the frat house and chelsea cut through a dull sheffield united blade side. It's everyone's titled to lose roads but before we saw any of that. Can we get a toast. I wore raise this third first birthday the day to the moment of history. We're all living to global connectivity to love a pain incredibly move. what chasing people all around. The world celebrate america with joy. The parties across india to celebrate the first indian-american vp. Speaking i rish mates. About how genuinely pride day on the a son of oil has become president and a speaker much altered. Make jamie glassman. Have you heard on the podcast to lockdown features. In sandwich memoir. We grew up in liverpool animated by america and he was pouring in london. And just to see. The goodness in america radiate our in his words to dream about america. It's a thing of wonder and if anyone doubts it just look the irish television broadcasts clip celebrate in this moment this weekend in which they sat was occurred to the shameless heaney poem the curate troy and i raised my bud fan blood to toss of that poem. And its lines. History says. don't hope on this side of the grave but then once in a lifetime the long four tidal wave of justice can rise up and hope and history rhyme makes me think keeping efforts and david is going to be okay when i read that poem carriage the blues. Who had a bad weekend roche. Okay before we get to the football we have to say this sunday will truly be a sunday. Like no other raj ev. It's not gonna lose because the international break. Which i need in the fact that there's also this weekend's major golf tournament along with both professional and collegiate football. There's going to be no shortage of action. 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Th minute when carl walker clipped saudi-omani in the box conceding his second penalty of the season promptly dispatched by your mate roj mosala one livable city. Got one back after nineteen pass. Move was finished off by a pair of j.'s touches so miraculous. They could turn water into wine. City had a chance to take the lead from the spot in the fortieth minute after joe gomez hand ball but the typically robotic katie be short-circuited raj and he put it wide a slightly more. Leggy second half ensued which saw ta go down with an injury and in the end. The points are shared liverpool. Now in second place city are stuck in tenth game which klopp hailed as the most difficult in the world of football lived up to its billing an epic battle the bastard slug through the rain mud. You couldn't take your eyes off. It all began with a tactical exclamation point by klopp. Going into this. Who would be liverpool's front three red hot diego. Jota slamming six goals in four games. Klopp forced to spend the week. Defending bobby for me and the only played the. Oh four and of dave lovett me credit taking the best tree i in football tenny into a fab. Four watching navona. Morphine say the greatest from liverpool. The ones that change the musical world yes. The flock of seagulls clot all the fireworks offer. One's mandate bobby jota said if you want to get something. Hey ad then. You need to be really brave i go. It was to blue the bond doors off city right dave to overwhelm them to smile from the off and it worked for the first twenty minutes. Say yes they were sort of all over them but it certainly dulled city. They suddenly got very slow. Very defensive minded kind of playing the kind of football not used to watching them play exactly skittish and home. And femina plain talk alongside saleh jota amana tearing up the flank. It was a four to four. Billy watching the pittsburgh steelers defense. Blit every single down a manchester city shell-shocked as you say from the off liverpool at seeded city in sherman in midfield but the one rotary there so slow the couldn't live with it and they couldn't cope early exchange in football. We've really celebrate the full. Snowing ticky tacky days. This was liberal almost plan with full mid midfield and they tore it city in a way that city normally tear their opponents at home manet charging and car walk cutting inside them and the was lost as soon as he did position right. David yeah when he just he hit that reverse gear. Bp people completely skin called walker called walker comes across clips him obvious penalty. They didn't even need to var but didn't even need to hear from stopping partner on you've been made come walk has had a phenomenal season. Just got done. In the same way as he did against leicester earlier in the season semi outcome walker as good as he can be is decision making key moments permanently. The sex party salalah finished. Cooley reward for klopp's brave approach to the game but in three of that lost six games liverpool of taking a lead and they've not held onto it and it was really wild to see because it was the press getting going in the mid failed men they had so much possession but really hemmed in and i thought they rattled. I thought the first twenty minutes. I thought we were going to see this. Modern city trump with the players of tuned out guardiola where they get frustrated where they start to trump fee katie bay and say make magic happen but then oh my god what a gold fantastic of at the point. I believe it was all only dixon. But everything blends into one with me. Just were decrying. How pool city look of course and the fact they couldn't get katie bay involved in the gay rights at that moment. The ball literally went to katy. I'm really mentioned the woods ginger bed yeah katy perry immediately put it to jason. The box who either made the greatest offensive move in the history of vogel organized seeding lucky. Whatever did he seized on that mistake or brilliant move immediately and put it past amazon one. One let's talk about it kids even before the ball got debate. Who was having a quote terrible game. Nineteen passes in the build-up incredibly team double incredible against liverpool and cabriolets as fortunate a law and won't say is that he essentially trent alexander. Wrong with exposes. And these people will kind of move the only not many humans mystique kunakey could probably what jay z or dennis. Bergkamp the rules. And i couldn't believe almost everyone in the english media on twitter suggested it didn't mean it and they miss control it but he didn't mean it didn't need david. I think it's hard to imagine that he reacted that quickly to a mistake. Not knowing where the ball was going to go he just seem to be on it so quickly. I can't believe that he didn't know but look it's tough to tell you've got to give him the benefit of the doubt. He scored the goal. Got like. let's say it's much more beautiful idea if he meant it. S less tree. That's why we watch football. And i will say. English broke. Costa's they are limited in really. What the english imagination allows them to believe. Humans could do in the instant. Very of rinaldini. I david seaman and england at the two thousand two world cup. I was at that game. You're saying that that game inch shizuoka boiling hall and ronaldinho stepped up for. It was one of those free kicks. Just i believe inside being than exactly the only stepped up and blocked semen duluth back like me going for an overhead at age fifty four years old and he just was. He just was some pathetic. I was at the other end. Now right behind ronaldinho and just watching him pathetically go back and does not have. The idea to remedy knew was going to chip. It was impact david. Seaman who arsenal goalkeeper ledge pie name ledge a pioneer of the early adopter of the momberg. Which real thought would never ever catch on. But michael semen was in that earlier who got shares in it because they're probably worth a fortune now but if you watch and it's on youtube it was an incredible goal. Sore semen cheating chip. Tim from his dave says near the halfway line and the commentator immediately laughed at in english are we miss hit that he was kind of played into the into the mixture. He oprah hit. I couldn't imagine that was lacking and the reality is role l. Denia had vision relative new had technical ability him. Most of all roller denia had courage and lack of fear of humiliating himself to pull that off he was going for. The crossbar. challenge was pretty disappointed. That ended up going onto the crossbar in the movement. I believe zeus hundred percent east back buying the bit to impress. I just do it. I i thought was remarkable human moment. It's why we watch and the rest of the first half was a similar bent breathless both teams just chancing the opportunity any opportunity to crush go but i gotta tell you off to that goal and you saw how easily city i mean yes. It was a great finish but does that passing move. You just saw how city cut through liverpool's midfield and back to back four and you suddenly thought you know city can take them. I suddenly thought city had this katie. Be missed one. A few moments later from that one that you would pretty much put money on putting on at least on target nine times out of ten and then forced penalty the rest of the first off it was in that same bent breathless. Both teams chance and the opportunity to crush the go. I mean by the way lost in the delight of this attacking. Cunning was both goalkeepers. Your incredible when called upon in the rain. David jordan pickford and kappa. Were playing this game. What would the score been halftime up. Nine eight it'd be fourteen much. If carriers was in goal for liverpool. Joe facility pickford would have dived to save kdb's penalties flicks it back into his net somehow the penalty. Thirty eight minute. Joe gomez for me harshly judge to handle the hate that new penalty where you don't stick your arms up on purpose you're human you're running. You've go that she job. I mean we seem to talk about this every week. I'm sick of this. i'm really. I'm sick this penalty in the first place penalty because it was given. But look i'm going to give you my final thing. And i do agree. We should not talk about the second convention. Not talk about that ridiculous bamford situation this weekend. We have this handles that. The rules of football were designed for the human eye so the issue is not var var is just giving us things in slow motion at such close up fast. Moving cameras just brilliant pictures that it's enabling the rules of coming mockery because they're being interpreted not by the human eye but by thirty frames per second in super slow motion and in ultra hd. And so it's making a mockery of this inhuman. I you would never call that a hamble in the human eye. You would never patrick. Bamford offside but said you're going to have to be rewritten in order. If we're going to have var we're gonna have to ride. I feel like we say this. Every bloody we and jay dubb's you can just cut this podcast. Because i'm sick of saying it just like we're all of watching. This crap is in english. Law does the lure of statue regulations. And there's the lure of equity fairness and that humble ruling doesn't seem fanfare by the lure of equity and it's not why we watch football. Ns watch football to have human emotions of every kind and they scientifically have worked out the if we leave pissed off and on those is out of joy. It's an emotion. it's a hot phone one. that's also a positive who steps up. they take katie with new jinja. Goethe sent allison their own weight and the the other room white the wrong side of the left post and a swear. I could heya in american accents. Just i'm sure as audible faintly across this whole nation of ours american-based liverpool fans screaming ball. Don't lie yeah. I'm sure a lot of that. I mean you just don't see. Penalties missed the target very often. Just don't see it. You see penalty saved. You might see them hit the woodwork. But clean missing the post. You just don't very weapon to seen that since october two thousand eighteen which also couldn't believe same fixture. I'm failed riyadh morass plus the ball over the bar. Matchy surprise. it doesn't happen. More and by the way man city of now may six of the lost ten penalties in the primarily. Then not very good at finishing in that they have at least thirty passes before the policies for this. The katie bait. I believe that if he was clean shaven wouldn't miss interesting thing. Just the way of thought. Ginger muttering sh- mia well. It's changed his body weight throwing him off his buddies. Wildly and calibrated revolt. Ginger forestation david. He looks even more like he's a character in a brogel brueghel. Mitch penalty is being missed. Still there's that bruegel somewhere far. I fall in love with the hurt in the past. Yeah oh does he ever broil a flemish painter. Maybe around what the fourteenth fifteenth century. No sometime around then check about. Maybe just thing work famous for pay in terrible terrible penalty. Takers patty mess. And he slept state way to and really an incredible hall of all our open. Space jaw dropping louis. Football praying clubs. Halftime tactical adjustment would be to add more attackers. But the second half didn't continuing up vein. It was read. J zeus missed a sitter from range trent alexander on the went down with an unknown injury which will keep him out of england duty but to see a plague down new contact off the ball. Really the product of the ridiculousness of this current. Covert footballing schedule. Kid is played twelve and a half games in two months of the human body at the elite level cannot take that punishing schedule. You kind of start to think physios are going to be the. Mvp of the season. David sorry brogel. Fan sixteenth century born fifteen twenty six in bree. Belgium died september ninth. Nineteen sorry fifteen sixty nine in brussels. God you've just saved the places mailbag from being in the database the full to fifteenth century. What a joke. Stick to football and politics doc. Saying trent alexander all down before international break not a very important international bringing. Frankly but i know he's trying to hold that right back spot. There's a lot of competition there. Bizarrely sadly england only fifteen candidates to replace him so true is a brutal and it took the stuffing of liverpool by the and even the fake crowd. Noise sounded like it was through the rain. Chill to the bowed. Happy to get the hell out of a one. One draw as a game fizzled out both teams. Dave would you say clearly weaker than law season opposite problems liverpool conceded sixteen goals in eight games city managed to score just ten times which for them for both teams do seem weaken the last season. And i think this was a better point for liverpool than city. Who had who had quite a few quite a few places in the primarily table below them. But i think he's see some problems. Both teams are facing city as you identified already rotary under one and that sort of manatee midfield just not really buzzing in the way that it has before sitting deeper moving slower. Some finishing problems. You know Katie be looking one moment. Brilliant little moment a little out of little bizarrely out of it and then liverpool. You know this team that have sort of self selected again and again we knew the starting eleven injuries To some key players going to make a real difference to season and in this. You know slightly congested. You know covid post covid schedule you know. No wonder these big teams are sort of pushing so hard for five substitutions injuries. And i think klopp said this gonna play a major part in the outcome of the season. Yeah i mean liverpool five points ahead of sixty probably happier with the point of the two teams. I ain't the trent injury worries of a duh outcome of this game be tr gay and for being on track to return by the time the international break ends. My question is can you see clock assisting his shelter or campaign filled in all four taros at the same time because say this premier league. I do think it's a trick play. The works wants but my lord there next game against broad jin team broad city if they play such an imbalance lineup. You've got to think that bastard ramsay bolton football. Jamie valdes feast yeah. I must say liverpool did not look unbeatable in this game and unbeatable by city team. Who nowhere near what they were. You know i've been assuming every single week that livable we're gonna come back and win this league in trump. my do still believe it's titled lose but this weekend. I started for the first time to actually doubt that they were going to do it. Facility from eleven th though they are way off the pace in this game. I believe will be seen as a failure to close that gap and i'll look at this team so much talent. Yes but compared to greet city teams past. You think yeah. Yeah yeah's you'd have it silva companies aquarius young's warriors all over the failed. And it's a difference between made meant in scorsese movies and just soldiers you've got your rhodesia can sell as you diaz as you have good players but they're not made men in the goodfellas pep said before this game. This fascinated may do team will need a mammoth points. Total to win the title this year and i realized what this forty points used to be the mark deemed to be safe from relegation erratic nature this campaign. David you get forty points probably win the title this season though. I don't think it's going to be that extreme But you know we could see we could see you know. Eighty points winner this year. Know that entirely possible in this happened. It's happened before okay. I team that are likely to get eighteen. Points wrote everton. They lost three one to manchester united at home with a guillotine precariously dangling over his head ole again manages the great escape after going down to a nineteen th minute pint-sized behind the strike united stormed back angular portuguese assassin. Bruno fernandes netted twice in the first half and substitute edison. Cavani added a third in the ninety. Th minute to give united their seventh consecutive away win in the league and keep ole at the wheel dude be the o. Gs and he in all allies on sauce. Kiosk future ahead of their swan following to insipid losses with schettino looming reports. Have old trafford had only remaining popular wherever woodward and say we've in the locker room for results wise. I mean his you know he did have been ricocheting from wonder to excruciating humiliation in the blink of an eye. It's time to fail the ole error. You know it is just endless. Endless purgatory. so how'd that feel of this one this inevitable fan filter. Dread of i mean everton's fast start to the season is really only have two feelings before game numb and filled with drugs this more they make us to self leaving those those appre. Well dem's new and we've had one point from the lost nine available and the worst fear was that you know it'd are so bad. Of course that you reset gave to the top of their cycle again after dark dark defeats and they always play inspired. Socio is back. Football just went. Boom is upon them. I couldn't see beyond a classic case of united pulling out a win for ole when he needed and we only went school too early. Didn't we david. It was a good little gull from bernard spiking. The ball who are in whimpered legs. Put it through his legs and little goal for the emotional little. Brazilian gains scored on by bernard in twenty twenty is a sackable offence. In itself thought freshman. He's been called up from the v. To help the varsity team but they proved to be evidence only shot on target. We used only shot on target to blow dearly. How would you respond. The was at ripley. Resilient attacking shameless colin's flank. Because hamas rodriguez would be slightly. Stole injured testicles. Hopefully named we'll both injured or is just one injured test one was injured by virgil van in the other one. By just the extent to which i've been thinking about it but he doesn't. It doesn't do the defendant leftist till the exposed. Luke shaw crossed bruno finance. There's not enough people. Had your team concede a goal. What was so bloody good. Just timing trajectory team play finish. They don't really feel a thing on also just had the end of it just one of those classic jordan lattes dives where he just died so high loops up in the air but he ended up being nowhere near sounds great. God we share because he did the balls in the pattern that long in the bucket. Fifteen seconds after it. I'm sure it's still moving in the back of that. You just see little picky. You just see him diving slowly angrily desperately across the cool though. He's possibly maybe forty minutes late in fifty minutes they. I love how bruno headed in from the penalty spot. If it's the only place he's willing to school from centrebacks didn't learn the lesson they were really bad in this game. My mypillow bad mason holgate back still rusty and within seven minutes again from the left fidesz chip towards rash fit. You can grazie state. And maybe i'm just like let's give rush fit all the goals because he said a great human being dave anytime he's in the vicinity the of a goal and should become his this season. I should be the rules. Pickford i think usually is natural instinct was to go inside him down to footed an end to season. But you can't do that to rochford. Nba rose matt matt. But way colo before the game in reinsuring pickford. It wasn't gonna talk about this. But he said i picked back in. I couldn't believe this. And i have encouraged him to quote. Use his natural instincts more. No no why would you do that when the man's natural instinct together bed in the morning and just take a couple of shots at brandy and then walk counts of the world and see what he can fuck up. One man united go ahead and they. They deserved it. I don't think they were playing incredible. Football marcial to me make a lot of plaudits. We looked off the pace for me. Man united still look disjointed in many phases of play but everton sort of went back into their shells. After that one bernard goal. They definitely look shaky the back fernandez. He suddenly became old. Diego cost up becoming sort of a circus within the sort of within the action winding everybody up seemed to be in a constant running battle with shameless coleman. Oh my god i mean taught. The game was just life from file. Finance says and shame re-litigating that great conflict. The irish portuguese pickford flapping at mcguire at the to square. It up just a classic moment of english. National team leadership. I actually read. What the two will cup two thousand eighteen icon said to each other day. What was it said to sold off slop hat. And maguire said you've got child homes leaders. The ball that was hit epidemic. New pace couldn't believe colo was not bringing a moist keyed five goals in five games suddenly for ps jay. I was crying. Put their own by your own office. Some theo cup some look. Yeah i mean. God can keep look too big i now. He's playing for the table football now. Oh god scored. Late walked off at the final whistle looking astonished like a candidate who just keeps finding county ballot boxes in fulton county. A performance even more phenomenal when you remember played wednesday in istanbul been shattered physically shattered mentally and some resilience than reflected in the father. These impulse in interviews to lash out the insane fixture congestion which is absolutely correct. But if you you know he did fan you like us three points. You like bad news. No potch spoke to one of my mates today. The united fan is just confused. He has no idea he's no idea who is team. Oh no idea how good they are. I think arsenal fans probably feel the same way. No idea whether you'll great or awful from one week to another. Just keep buying kola taps. That's the point of it all at the end of the day. I'll say ole the whale. Is kate gold truck. He's been away too long just before. He swears off the road. Sending this car of whatever they would have in the back just takes another five hour energy drink and put in effort to blow for another week for everton. We say this every week. Two new rich all less said no chance are primarily greco without ricky since he joined drooled law strong gerald gerald loss loss. Loss crimor roach. Is this just regression to the mean. David well clearly is has been a regression to the mean. Just factually regression to the mean. Everton have had the greatest League star in memory and yet. 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Bale made his long awaited second coming premier league star and it wasn't really that good. I mean we expected spurs to overrun the cellar dwelling opponents. They didn't frustrating from marina every single sour. Not my fault for sake. Ingenious space inside the first forty five minutes really a testament to west brom who defended wear face collectively and could a negative but for a fine laurie. Save spurs frustration dug deeper. Not second off the should abroad. Alex morgan made a return to the super league. Twenty minute cameo the day before. I've course say that she then pose a door six whole future. Us international charlie. Both of them in spurs jerseys. Look it up on the internet. Smiles will warm your heart. The world needs love right now but grass marina when he thinks about love he thinks about how much he loves winning a few things. Give him more pleasure. Dave the match way to win so in the eight minute cruel on you working back east fans you've made block after block who rose up to nod home even harry kane and what a not home it was royal just not the kind of of you see very often certainly not from an englishman. It took imagination. Roger took believe it took confidence. Just a fantastic had from sort of halfway towards the near post over the keepers backpost beautiful. I once asked him. You always inch of space and make it seem like the ball just automatically comes the waiting for the answer and do you know what he said. Well i don chewed. That's true story. Visit huge lone lined up. Just how much like the wind up being constantly covered any footage of him just like turning up finishing close range forward. He saw no really. It was just hilarious. I think he does. The one thing that i'm fresh off. Ringing two hundred goals up for spurs industry the games. This is one hundred fiftieth primarily. Man who loves round numbers olmecs more than scoring goals back and i will say it's an incredible. We seem to lure them now. Every every week by the way the british press do seem to find a new record a new threshold a new mark for him almost every blood. The game at this point ten play to score fifty goals on the ellen shakira and says uruguary did it faster than him to in one thousand nine appearances for harry and spurs went top of the table for two glorious delicious hours. This is not to drill spurs fans. Never never forget the two hours fifty minutes when you were top of the table for the first time in six years it was in mazing dis. They'll be printing. Dvd's ballots be be right in ballots. David sewing tapestries. But this is the kind of win where you know you look back on the season. You say this was important. This was an important points and these are the kind of games that champions have to win chelsea any managed. I think a three three draw against west bromwich albion This was an important win a game that until those final minutes. They were lucky to be level. I will say next five games. Four spurs games. Oh destiny chelsea away are still who palace away liverpool. Leicester enjoy it all or nothing fans. Yeah certainly team and fans pretty miserable about toddlers. Early season form arsenal. They hosted aston. Villa lost three nil dean. Smith's frat bros shake off back to back defeats and comprehensively dispatch an uninspiring arsenal team. Despite john mcginn warning strike vard off in the second minute. The defense continued to hit snooze conceding a twenty fifth minute own-goal of piquet asakusa boot goners spurned. A couple of chances leaving it open to village do what they do. Best take shots. Shots and shots ollie. Watkins a one kids secured a brace in the space of three minutes and villa march out of the ever. Three deal talks ming. A what kids grills. These guys cachet cashman. Catchy they just love playing football with each other. Rotate playing beer pong. They love playing football. Russet traub amazing etty. Martinez would've been smashing those red solo cups on his head and they love him dead spot. Do they funny enough for. The electorate was really the stuff coat from oslo funds worse. Read it snuff movie fan fiction narratives and own goal and injured thigh for thomas party and ask whipping at home to aston. Villa signaled of attention from the off with more fresh. For how a goal decision inside fifty seconds it should have been a warning shot. Maybe for us. No but they didn't take any of the chance to refresh a second stop began so ponderously entire ninety minutes. Essentially summed up by the site of care dribbling towards his own. Goal doesn't like some kind of functioning westworld host simply full in over for no apparent reason also as they say up north arsenal so lumpen lackadaisical trademark mess when easier to score will the end who suddenly looks fifty-five plastic over wildly and hilariously. Ober just even have the ability to control the ball in the penalty area anymore. Mind score six hours and twenty six minutes since also loss. Go to go from open. Pay in the premier league. Big problem for this team has happened to arsenal dave. We were singing their praises just a week ago. Did it give it to the heads. Did they still think that better than they are so quickly because we were seeing that prices. I think this is another team that you just don't know who they are. We can we get out and despite having you know shed some of those. Typical awesome tropes the softness in midfield the lack of fighting instinct the inability to put a tackle this team still showing some form of mental untidiness. They don't seem to be able to find their leaders on the pitch and turn it around and are tighter. I gotta tell you. He just looked confused and mute almost on the sideline. it was a very very strange performance from the entire team manager. Highest hard to watch and assaulting play with such little creativity. I mean no os is like a stick politics. It's like a calf book in its own right and that is complicated. Banou willow is is crazy. Amish with the size been so good tested and there's unimaginative has also work aston. Villa will lightning quick surgical creative clinical flick tricks. I mean just ross barkley creating six joneses and pops a hardest thing to watch rossler funds. Jat greeley is beautiful stunning carbs and is his golden buttocks. Is he such an arsenal player. David lewies it's it's easy to obsess about grills and his calf muscles in his peaky blinders. Good looks and but he was the best player on the pitch by a mile every time he gets the bully. Feel like something magical is going to happen. He can run with it and control. It is an amazing. I for you know plays developing. He seems to see two three moves ahead. An up and down the pitch. I thought they goalie look better than astros. Goalie tyrone mings defense. Just look yes. Those guilty i e both hostile scuttling tyrone means lote outrageously good in defense. Just human what a great story you know and we've got to ali night. It feel barkley putting in. I haven't seen barkley hit a volleyed cross like that in ever. You've ever seen a plane forever and dane. Smith said just hit that ball as if you lie in a phone it's not easy and he said no one's ever told no one's made it that simple before gafa and meet someone that only walk ins head getting mahomes half past any spot. A soviet talks talks honestly does look like he's the crazy one who i would never trust. Who does things just. Don't let dogs leave. You're still not helps all all the kids two goals for inside three minutes you right that that first. One spunky in volley cross onto his head for what can finish by ross barkley. He's only played in seven top-flight league games only what kids and he's already scored three against liverpool now. A brace against hostile. Why is the opposite of a flat track now. He's amazing he must be on the edge of eating then up as well. I mean just doing superbly. So many good strikers in english football right now and what an incredible story for where he's come from know signed in the offseason from brentford and Just good for him and this is a team. It just really shows where asked. Were last season rod. So nearly relegated relegated only safe from relegation because of that ridiculous var incident. The aclu uson. I believe was the technical word during the game against sheffield united where shefa clear sheffield united goal. The crossed the line was included by all of the cameras. By the seventy five vol cameras. It says everton fans are will say they are the greatest case that could be made by the quite controversial in america currently greek system. That is what is behind the frat boy renate on could have been more three at one. This allowed another cleared off the line. Clean shake kazoo twins. they're back. Yeah looked absolutely fantastic. Saf hampton to newcastle nil. Row hampton also coming alive. Despite missing danny ings comprehensively dumped newcastle. Behind a ninth minute. Sh- adams goal great. Finish on the volley. Roger and second half. Scottish insurance from inverness is stuart armstrong at the end of the day friday southampton top of the table for the first time since nineteen eighty-eight one year before you'll hero the're will call was even boom. No danny ings. No problem yes. The week began sadly for southampton. They lost their redemptive here. Danny ings underwent knee surgery set to miss the next four to six weeks which is humanly sad news. Because he's just four is way back into the england. National team squad deserves to add to his one star. But this was shay addams game fantastic finishing full the southern dc. Al agent ridiculed by his own fans for being a strike. Who could not score. But this found this form and then this one swaggering exclamation point of a finnish against newcastle. Whose game plan increasingly seems to be to hope that opponents will miss every single one of the many chances that they're allowed to create everton southampton did not want briefly briefly to the top of the table for the first time in thirty two blood years. They tweeted out their official club. Account stopped the count but we had the still away. Goals and military ballots for livable would not counted dave. Ralph hasn't huddles redemption story though. It's as beautiful as he is terrifying. It's just remarkable. It was just a year ago that they'd just got thrashed by lester. Remember that game that we were watching than in austin at the fan fest and where he's turned around that team since then a completely different sort of incisive strong. You know it's a little bit you know what you watch with southampton's little villa. You're watching a bunch of you. Know young men just really enjoying playing football with each other couple of pieces of key experience. These amazing stories. Danny ings coming back to the club doing so well for them. But they rallied around it was. I mean honestly. You've got no nothing if you don't watching chatham school even theo back in place. That loves him where he feels comfortable and playing great football. He's not. He's not been a professional football for several years. Given up completely phase back plan the game that he loved a clubby loves and hasn't held till the media. This is not been achieved by investing lot of money. It's been achieved investing of work and huge respect for what he's done. Remember as you say. She's you're giving up that premier. League existence vaporize no nell home biped roj only by bourgeois new players. Just throw football can turn around light. Life can be filled with darkness and turned to light southampton fans whose club been besmirched by Nations have ownership changes. You deserve get glory of just approach. Talking about his players winning nine dylan. Just you got to credit the place they were. They were so tactically. Good though shoot a lot of what. I told them footstep for footsteps for ninety minutes. It's so good okay. Talking of broughton lester. They wolves one nil. No amount of baby oil on dhamma our his arms could help wolf slip. The fox's as brendan rojas side continue to tick off the winds fifteen th minute jamie vardi penalty after discussion. Sparking hamble was the difference on sunday. Volley source second penalty saved late in the first half but in the end it was wolves the when gentle into that. Good night a clash between the most powerful houses in the midlans. Both clubs verge powers both experimented. We've changed fighting to make the teams more unpredictable. This warm one by less controversial things against which must have been on old school settings twelve minutes eight harsh penalty. Max shulman handing a natural position. Bs s. this is why we watch football right dave for the bureaucracy. Jamie verde is not a god of mercy and he finished the penalty but later blew a second wolves do admire. They seem to step in the loss of a game and they really did deserve a point but fish. Michael who is excellent down the stretch insane. Save of ruben nevarez. Which i don't think enough credit respectively to our old mate veteran warrior christian the original christie and he was a total warhorse. What do you make of. Leicester's challenge beautified as david. They've won six of eight. The best of star in a top flight season looking fantastic. Well raj than they just faded horribly after the re-start This still sense the when it comes down to it when it comes down to squeaky bum time this is a team who are the teams are. The managers are going to figure out right. Now they are playing you know. They're playing exquisite football in some ways you know. Yeah young centreback for fauna roach. I mean playing almost better in the position than anybody else in the league except maybe tiago silva it is They look class. They look pure plus they know the kind of football they wanna play. They got a striking put. The ball in the back of the net again and again midfield player. Y plays centrebacks schmeichal experienced goalkeeper. Makes great saves. i gotta tell you. It's like tough to imagine them not being there or thereabouts. At the end of the season complex rela games to come liverpool. Manchester united everton and tottenham in their next seven as discussed in the wake of that but both these teams they do deserve to think top for why not us now last week. We talked about bridges new dating app on which he's the only member so it's the perfect match for him. Every single time looks lifing. It's me again with a perfect match. Gop jesse tk. See as the big question. Dave you ready. Do you think the broad has his face painted on a central as body in his bedroom. Like alex rodriguez you know. He's probably got a little portrait of himself. So he's he's he's probably Really has so different versions. He might have reached the central face. I once went to degrade singer. Johnny mathis who only wore white and then lived in a room where every piece of furniture was white and he had like one hundred oil paintings have himself a white couch. They were paintings of himself just wearing white. Which i thought was genuinely amazing. Did you dream. this really happened. No never knew that that really really really have much bridge as probably got something similar apart from it will be involved black velour but his bedroom. But i think it's probably over. His bed saves out for a painting of a central body with. Alex rodriguez his face on top of the a speech bubble. Coming out of alex. Rodriguez mouth saying oh. I wish i had just face a tactically brilliant today. Central shows canucks up. Okay pal four. Lead united one twenty two year old. Ab right she. As a introduces 'electricity to roy's steam powered outfit the england under twenty one international grabbed assist and scored a phenomenal free-kick to send palace out to a two nil lead held the cost own-goal an a second half brother strike. We don't know which one overcame. Patrick bamford seventh of the season to see the eagles walkway four one winners all hail your palace. Who all had chick one of the joyfully erotic teams in the premier league that stuff for them they can take the field like a dead battery well. Just unfurl julius collective football and in this all hail j as a boss for the hot so he's the type of player who does make you lean forward every time the ball comes to his feet because the possibilities and list the joy of his presence means opponents game plan dave can no longer be just a murder yemen wolf. Sahan take the point. Now that he's another skill platt read about another skill play. They've just got some very very good football as their unearthing at this club. And it's just fun watching them. Play leads truly miss the presence of phillips at the back. And we're exposed here. I felt for bamford. The negated gets took the stuffing. It was ridiculous out. The performance he did eventually get is go which i love. Because he was marooned that palace under alum. Paul j. couldn't get a look in the vitriol. Surrounding the ludicrous nature of that decision. Really must just how badly leads were here. There's a wildly mind still inside roy. Hodgson any absolutely took advantage of all of lee's weaknesses. Be also going to have to find a plan bake if this primarily campaign is going to continue to chug along with joy as he prepares for us not a week on that gay west ham. One fulham nil s- another very improved team wrote a pile of ash the united right to the bitter end. It started in the ninety minute. When thomas sue check opened up that six foot four inch frame to stay home what looked to be the winner but in the final seconds tom. Kenny was attacked in the box. By iran's new boy saieed. Ben roma giving fulham a chance to draw level with the final kick of the ball. What ensued rod one of the worst penalty kicks in football history. Adema lamon who we should say had been sensational in this game up until that point limp that allowed lucas. Bobby anstey l. Fat to dive and then go back up and catch it. You got a couple of phone calls in that time you can take the look out of everton rods that you can never take out of. Look i mean how. Would you describe the penalty. Dave ever really the penalty in the clutch for fulham which desperately need points had one handed to them this relentless fulham deserve the point rarely they defended solidly. And then you have. Ninety-eight committed walked up towards the ball. Really it was like was the four. Season landscaping yeah. It was so bizarre. I'm only seen it. Was that pat nevin penalty for chelsea in the nineteen seventies the only penalty arguably worse in the top flight of english football. This was shameful as scott parker said. Afterwards if you're gonna do that you better hit the net. Oh my god. I wanted mike pence when i was seven years of age public. And that's pretty much. What the mola day whip the game on the line but really that penco the balloon. Palanca shoes you just. How much confidence all the other peninsulas thrilled our spirit lifted. Our hearts made a sing because my god. When it doesn't come off you will never hear the end of and penco is named after human being ponente. I think now a penalty a look which is which is the opposite the opposite of that. It just looks so cheating. The child i should should be look away. One is probably what it should be. I do enjoy that role. That you air quotes. Want crap your pants in public when you at quotes seventy s old. Did i say seven okay. Brighton hill burnley a game. Best summed up by the fact. The closest either team came to scoring was went. Burnley's matt loudon hit the bar on. What was clearly an attempted crossed. The neal flat planets get their second point of the campaign as they continue their worst start to top license season avenue goals in four games for them not much better news for the seagulls who haven't one in six played tennis with a university of north carolina. Legend this weekend roach rob kelley of rob kelley huge brighton. Just so heartbroken so worried about his team thinks they might go down off. He's just putting it all in daddy. Well he's all in for danny whaleback. I will say is glorious to watch this team. Apart from the end product they find no nineteen shot shots by any side without scoring in the primarily so far old friend. Danny welby may well ray well. It's made it rain wrapping short after short. Unfortunately straight and nick pope to no avail slight panic. Not just for your mate. But for every fan of graham potter team who plays so optimistically but the point return for moral victories. Really good enough. To stay in the top-flight let us know that's not a little table. You want to lead really okay. During my whole i really chelsea sheffield united. One after a slow start in which they allowed the blades to go ahead through a very clever ninety minute. David mcgoldrick flake was spotted. Them one of the shell storm back by goals from tammy chilly tiago silva and turbo team. Verner the blades remind on one point. Deadlocked chelsea are unbeaten in eleven straight in all competitions thereafter. The much improved team from last year. As i said last week roach yeah. The game started the single. Most epic way. I've ever seen a football game began. Nbc bump straight in an ounce a forty six president of the united states and cut right from that to chelsea again sheffield united which might just be the biggest moment in american football history or at least up there with brick cheese state in the top five. All get into this well. Chelsea's defence vastly improved the laid back with turf edge. Edward mandate four straight clean. Shape are looking relishing. A game against the played sake only score three times this season. So of course chef. They only go into opened the scoring. Glory first mendy conceded in five hundred and fifty six minutes diction definition scored too early. He wound worried for a second way. You dave no no. I wasn't chelsea good. Yes sheffield united scored against the run of the play but then chelsea took over and just played some beautiful beautiful Football and it all starts at the back they look so solid tiago silva and kurt zuma learn everything he knows evanston wrote just starting to form a really great partnership that wide plas- so good reese james and cya roj just combining so beautifully down that right hand side and superb routine win some go fascinating kovachevich carrying the ball back man city style. Who's he find. Tummy abraham a if it was up to him what is blasted up all over the ball but luckily for chelsea fans tummy misfit perfectly. Yeah bruce up right into the left corner finance shave yeah no. He was unbelievable. A did so many things plays but so much joy raunchy chiesa play. Whoever you support you got to enjoy watching him play football. He was just great. I incredible wet bull in new. Exactly what he was aiming for. They must train on this. He whipped it right up against ben. Chill wills peanuts yeah. La takes it for the team testicle bullet but that third goal david the whipped in free kick off bonds. I mean i love the ac three assists two goals in four starts six chances created in this arrest barkley numbers. I mean not just football and there's imagination but his personality is what the do does not hide off the field. He's just a showman using science. They can you prove to me that he is not in fact a wizard would be very happy. If he's a wizard rod you know. I'm full in on possible And that goal that goal that quality that ball in and then go silva you know not many setbacks capable of the we've ever seen in the primarily capable of scoring that goal Amazing subtlety great celebration. His first his first goal for the club wrote. And what verna miss. The chance to deny hat trick of assist technically known as g raina but the german would eventually get his goal scored his last six attempts on target or which is a bit tasty chelsea and shut it down at the the butler with the addition of men damning if zuma can forget what he learned it everyday chelsea get them improve week till we a wind so comfortable that could even bring on giroux to win the eye candy competition. I'm feeling very good about this team that they've improved and even the games the points we've dropped the season you know very unlucky in some of those games and made some very uncharacteristic mistakes and they've certainly tightened up at the back. The mendis made a huge difference. I love what they've got going. On with reese james and saying now yet all around them with you know hopefully if christian pulisic comes back from injury. Okay which would really hoping is gonna happen. News doesn't seem to be so grim from stamford bridge. A half hour him yet. He it's going to be cuts season. It's going to be good season. Okay roger can we please get a final toast with that yeganeh. Mr liquid joy to bring us home. I raised my short of yogi meister taste of human emotion in a glass to the us. Men's national team the european core of which will unite like the avengers. Assemble for the first time in wales for just a second camp of twenty. Two thousand eight feels like such a long time. I like said jake relief. That young squad filled with talent. Jere raina weston. Mckennie tyler adams off chris rich at police. It will be there. But he won't play still coming back from iraq. But yunus mussa the valencia seventeen year old stall sniffing out the field of us camp before committing internationally will be a blow to watch average age of the entire squad twenty one years three hundred days. Which thing is the exact same age as i actually did lost crap myself in public the trimmer of two thousand seventeen done so much damage to our hopes and dreams it's made to suffer could also make his hyperbolic kind of when we are dreaming but suffice it to say be bloody great to what your boys pull on those jerseys again against wales on thursday in swazi and then panama a week today in austria and look forward to watching again. I raise this year my staff to joy to wonder to courage and two baby steps. They've baby steps absolutely. I'm excited to watch this team. Play roach okay. You can follow us on twitter avenue. Blazers i m. C davis spent on instagram places embassy under school davies on facebook. Men and blazers. You can always send you ravens. The crap soho you can always email us at men in blazers g mail dot com vendor punk. Roj dave dave i wa. Thank you. you've done this whole punk cost under the giresse of finding out the apartment door and quite of an. I'm selling it anyway but it's fine. Anybody can get in there right now. But i did find that busy yet exactly to knows then to put roads paying sex matombo like snack baldwin baldwin take that gloria bolts. Lose to tweet gotta roca mate kung fu fighting. America love you dave. Look your branch you america.

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Ziyech Wizardry Leads Blues to 4-1 Win over Sheffield United

Chelsea Mike'd Up

55:10 min | 6 months ago

Ziyech Wizardry Leads Blues to 4-1 Win over Sheffield United

"You can feel it marching toward us off in the distance like a thousand traore as its international. Break time folks. And i'm a little depressed by it but on the bright side i am going to craft emotional. That chelsea can actually win the premier league and the moroccan magician might be the player of the season i'll get into that with our neutral observers jam-packed showed it. We got the match day. Live squad jenny to also makes her chelsea mike up debut. It's an exciting episode. We'll recap everything going on in the premier league. And i will be homer the likes of which. You've never seen llamas thaddeus mccotter swag chris wittingham the neutral observer. Now you're gonna have to rein the because. I am majorly excited right now. Chelsea of scored more goals in any other club in the premier league and akim c. h. We knew the service was good. He had that moment. The champions league varieties against chelsea but most people would tell you. They didn't know much about this player. Outside of that. Brilliant run that. I hadn't champions league. What a terrific player. What surprised me is also the work that he's doing defensively. I did not think he had that in them. This is a hot take. I think he legitimately can be player of the season. Not just for chelsea but in the entirety of the premier league. He's been that impressive. It's been such a difference maker remember. We still haven't seen chelsea's best starting eleven presumably and now they're within striking distance on the top of the table. You're gonna have to talk me down man. Because i am on chelsea's probability of what in this primarily here chris i'm super excited and free the prevailing feeling when i was watching the gaming and sheffield united was so they can see early right one nil and i never felt that chelsea learned that much trouble whereas a year ago you would have felt. Oh man it's going to be one of these kinds of matches you just don't feel that sense of chelsea don't have enough fear and as you mentioned z. As part of that reese james and bench. Oh well at fullback are part of that. Ten abraham is scoring goals for fun right now. You just have this surge in quality and attacking quality and i agree with you completely. Leads it because it's not just about the things that we knew about him. It's the things that we didn't know about him. As you mentioned the pressing just that kind of audacity to try a bunch of different things on the pitch and trying to combine with his teammates. He just has a certain amount of i. Don't give a bleep about what he's going to do out there. And that's just a certain amount of quality that chelsea didn't have last year save for christian pulisic in the restart period was just that anything can happen with that right. Hand side and look billion for instance at a really good first match with arsenal. But he doesn't do that every week right. And he hasn't kicked on for arsenal. It was kind of the same thing with chelsea whereas you kind of expect that even hockey has eighty nine minutes. That have one good one which you'll create a gilt-edged chance or someone and that for me is just a complete difference in. We're chelsea where a year ago and it hearkens back to what we were saying about. All these signings. Frank lampard brought in over the transfer window. You just keep bringing in quality and you increase the probability of special players doing special things in exact moments that you need them. Maybe they'll be some days. Even though i have very little evidence that they'll be match that he doesn't have it cooking. But that's why you have team. Oh verner and now. Tammy abraham in that mix. This wasn't a player that we could count on towards the latter part of the season. And he's tap back into the november form hell. He's playing better than he did. Last november tamie abraham has been quality. I know we sing his praises the last episode and one player that we didn't really give that much credit to because there was so much credit to go around. Is reese james. Obviously we've saying his praises plenty on this show. But i was super excited about the left wing combination of chills pace meeting with christian pulisic paste on the laptop because of injury. We haven't really seen it just yet. But let's give a little love to that right side right now because they may not be as pacey but the service coming in from that right. The interplay between the two is starting to look good chelsea. They have so many ways they can beat you. They had other ways that they could beat you previously but it was never defensively and we knew that the streak was probably a little too difficult to sustain the clean sheets. you're asking a lot of mendi. Sheffield united come out and scored the first one. I wasn't worried. I wasn't worried. That would concede again. You know how that match against sheffield united went last year once. They scored one. There was one mistake in the midfield and that was all she wrote. I have so much faith and confidence in the back line and tiago silva nominated for player of the month. Thirty six years old. Ben shapiro also part of that back line infusion. This is really special right now and chelsea legitimate shop because of injury. Maybe cada break there with liverpool. I ve always maintained that. Maybe they're on a downward trajectory but what helps to accelerate. That process is the battles with fitness that they've had in the long term injuries. It's there for the taken chris. This might be a year ahead of schedule. Which elsie and. That's something that we just weren't really anticipating just because of the strength that liverpool of show thought chelsea make step up. But i think we've seen them make several steps up in the last few weeks just in terms of what the feeling is when you watch him and you're a fan. You can probably describe it in. I can't even though we've watched every chelsea match for a year. Now right you just kind of get that sense of watching them every single week of. What were you thinking. When games happened. I really did feel after they conceded early. Now chelsea got this and the other thing that you don't see as much is in that sheffi united match a year ago and the restart period when they lost away at bramall lane is when they did. Go one kneel down. They felt they had to press right and commit more numbers forward and lead themselves more vulnerable in the counterattack. It didn't really feel like chelsea. We're unbalancing themselves to go and try and get a goal and several goals in this game just had to keep doing what they were doing. And that is such a step up. And i think that's again and increasing quality a massive part of that and verner as upgrades for me are massive and i mean bencher will as an upgrade if you just sort of said that chelsea left-back position in two thousand nine hundred twenty. The chelsea left back position twenty. Twenty twenty one. It's miles difference and we talked about price and we talked about. How frank lampard clearly wanted this player right and you had to get the signing right because you're spending a bunch of money on a player at a position that's not really the high money position but if you can solve that problem with one signing and you know every week i name the team sheet benca well leftback. He's going to play brilliantly. That is such a huge upgrade where you had a year ago and now for me. Football is the ultimate weakling. sport where is the weaken. the site. I don't know there. There doesn't appear to be obviously a position player on the pitch that isn't delivering at a very high level. Right now i guess the only weak link is maybe there is still some skepticism that they fixed this offense. Because i'm so little worried right just because of what. The last two years have looked like particularly last year in the start of this year with how shaky kepler was and i know tiago silva benca will. It's not as simple as just keep your changed. It's also not very fair to kappa. But but i mean he has the highest save percentage in the premier league. You've gone from the lowest. Save percentage in the premier league to the highest. That's a massive difference maker man and the other thing too is the quality of opportunities so now edward mendis four games in the primarily leaving out the champions league numbers later four games in the premier league. The expected goals against is one point eight so that means that roughly. There's about one half a chance in each game that the other team is getting and many as outperforming at one point eight expected goals against he's only allowed one goal and that's that's among the best in the premier league already like for example. You look at sam. Johnston tops that number for west brom goalkeeper. But he's conceded. Sixteen goals in the is expected to concede eighteen right. Just there's a barrage of shots for me. It's just there are no chances created against right now. If not going to trust anything that for me would be. The thing is that when they played southampton in that three three it wasn't just about kappa. Right southampton created some great chances in played right through chelsea so unless that goalkeeper solidity is just permeating through the team. And it's just an entirely different team because of the goalkeeper behind them at some point. They will concede more chances but right now from a defensive point of view. It's staggeringly good. How do you stop this attack of chelsea. How do you go about stopping the chelsea attack right now because okay. They've gone from conceding two goals. A game maybe two one. And that's all she wrote when you're going up against chelsea you're not going to stop them from scoring twice. How do you stop this attacking side right now. There aren't these defensive minded parking the bus teams if anything burnley towards burnley up most suppressing which means they're gonna be gaps in that back line that you can expose with chelsea's pace and options right now and the service so many different ways to beat you right now and it's just ultra exciting. And maybe i'll just be muttering while chelsea lift the premier league trophy. I so didn't get to see chelsea's starting eleven because that is a very real. Okay i wanna. I wanna have argue with you about this. Though doesn't tammy abraham figuring chelsea's best starting eleven right now. I know that we're americans you want christian pulisic to be involved but we're in my america. Had chris you trying to open my eyes to the fact that maybe chelsea's best starting eleven dozen feature christian pulisic. I mean. I think it does still but right now we have to say that abraham is involved in chelsea's best starting eleven and tambi abraham involved team verner has to be involved and so where is room for christian pulisic. Now does that mean that christian pulisic when he gets back fit is not going to play not at all. But abraham part of chelsea's best starting eleven right now making it angered facing me. I don't like this. I will give you the tammy's been incredible. I'm not as crazy about team on the left. Even though he's coming on as a left winger right now and he's finding the back of the net and he's learned how to play with tammy let's not forget. How good christian. Look i know krasnodar but let's not. Let's let's pump or breaks. He was handed the number ten for a reason. How about this. If you find yourself down in a game which right now as a chelsea homer. I never envisioned ever happening. Legis say there is a shocking red card vargas as dirty and we need a goal scoring punch. Someone's going to find themselves out of that. Starting eleven right now. We didn't have scoring punch off the bench last year. There was no scoring punch. William was out there for a reason. And if you look at his premier league scoring record it really isn't much to that argument but it was all chelsea have now you. You might find matches where you have the likes of. Tamie abraham off the bench and christian pulisic off the bench. You wanna give timo verner arrest. And god knows he deserves it they were scheduling time for him and then christian got the hamstring injury and this battle with corona virus. Obviously maybe forces some respite care habits. It's a totally different chelsea. It's a totally different chelsea and credit to the manager for figuring it out this to challenge at aside to not get it straightened away in the attack. We knew that the struggles that cohesion time training fitness of that will result in goals. But they didn't need that much time along the back line. This was a matter of two matches. Many in their two matches. Good the pairing of zuma silva so on the left which i mean not only is he thirty six years old in a new league but he's not playing what is regarded as his best position. And you don't sweat it. People had that in-draughts ready to complain about now up primarily player of the month arguably the leadership the cohesion the fact that i'm just not nervous. I'm not nervous right now. Watching chelsea when they're playing outside of the top six clubs think about all the matches that we had were born with us and west ham in burnley and these very difficult matches that chelsea had along the years with defensive-minded teams know exactly how to lock them up. I think there's a collective gulp from those defensive-minded teams now because this is just such a potent attack and in some ways it's mirrors what liverpool aman city of felt like for the last three or four years. Is that you just go there. And you don't expect anything to happen right. You don't expect that you're going to get goals. You don't expect that you're gonna stop the other team from scoring and there is this feeling of strength from chelsea that we have not been used to seeing. You mentioned the way which the manager has got it right to me. I think the biggest thing that he's done this is gonna sound a bit. Ridiculous is match language through the spine of the team. Because if if you want to build your defense around silva and he doesn't know english yet then. The communication has to be really important if a french goalkeeper. If salvo played in france for six years you know he he speaks french. His partner zuma's playing partially because he's playing really well because he speaks the same language as geography silva and holding midfielder ending. Golo kante that is french right. So you have this level of communication in defense. That i mean who knows. Maybe communications is a reason why the defense has been bad in recent years and he just wanted to get everyone on the same page because you know that at least that group of four players can communicate with each other. You know that jorgihno the multicultural man of the world is going to be able to figure out how to communicate. Even if he doesn't know french yet he bill probably learn a language and be able to figure it out soon enough. Like i do think that that's another big part of how the managers are. How am i going to put each of these players that i want to succeed in the best position to do so and i think that's a another kind of hugely underrated portion of this excellent points. I've seen that on twitter. And i honestly think there's a lot to it because we saw a bunch of communication breakdowns with kep back there but i will remind you there are plenty of lineups feature to back line of marcus lonzo and aspirin quetta and kept back there and they speak the same language and it was still a fire. Drill in a lot of matches and by the way has also speaks french. So he's going to be one of these versatile plug and play guys. That's how we liked him entering this season. Which is tough obviously for the captain to swallow but it speaks volumes to the type of leader and team player as for the has look. It was a bit of an unsettling time for georgina to and he's chelsea's vice captain and he is slotted in there. You see team. Oh taken the. Pk's these are absolute professionals and it helps that. They speak multiple languages in georgina in aspic weta and if the report of a winning side then they'll cease being polarizing figures as the not so much anymore i think a lot of that has died down because of his professionalism but man these guys editor could it become co favorites and icons for this club if chelsea actually do get some hardware here and this is a legitimate conversation. We're having now with chelsea as we enter the international break. Look there's plenty to discuss about this chelsea side and we are bringing in loads of guests to talk it out with a smash they live crew is going to be coming up next and jenny to you've seen her on. Cbs champions league coverage she'll be making her debut here on chelsea miked up could have a conversation about how things san here with men and women seem told. Her revenge was on our mind against everton. Chelsea women both teams men and the women argument for cohesion impatience and talent because man both these teams are absolutely loaded. We'll get into all of that fun stuff but next semester they live group. What every minute of every match download the fifth fan the official chelsea at chris. I'm super excited about our next guest. And i really hope for those us supporters. That aren't familiar with what exactly it is. They do become familiar and they go seek their stuff out can watch them on the sand app. You can check out the facebook. The official chelsea facebook and youtube channels to see what our next guest do. Great work we're talking. Abby joe and zack from match they live. It's match live crew. They you guys so much now. I don't want to do the same thing we all say. Hey how's it going at the same time. Especially they prioritize audio. So we're just gonna go around the horn here a little bit. I'll start over with zach. And zack you bring the youthful energy on the show. I tried to. But i'm feeling might especially when i play the grass roots stuff like the i'm feeling all sorts of creaky. You actually relate to the young vibrant energy on this team probably better than anyone else on this zoom right now. Not chris wittingham because even though he's the youngest one in zoom he's got the sensibilities of an eighty five. I'm gonna go to you. Frank lampard is really connecting with these players. He's someone they grew up. Idolizing what is it to these players to be able to receive surreal instruction from chelsea's greatest player ever and he's not that far removed from their own age. Say the compliment. Thank you very much. Yeah it's a is pretty nuts. I think for them especially for lice of mason mountain. Towns abraham maury. The boys the boys you kind of grew up in the uk and will what shing frank lampard in now every single week perform the best level possible and now i just getting told what position. They're playing this week. How pretty being training and it probably makes them probably resonates with them a lot more than That's not saying that someone like say christian footage whoever as resonating with them. But it is definitely a memo. Is this guy you know. He played for england especially for mason. Who's now playing on eight row as well he saw. You say you can learn from the best bet frank lampard. He's literally telling you what to do. Just do what he says. I'm pretty sure you're going to school and assess we've been saying enduring even more say but yeah for the young guys especially i mean they know. Frank lampard means the chelsea primarily. There is really a person to learn from. Now we're all in this content game and there's a bit of a sea change right now. A very young team when i first started becoming a chelsea fan and watch those seem like grown ass men when i'd go and visit my friends and their dad would come in and i'd be a little scared that was essentially chelsea's entire team so now we have all this youth vibrant energy and you guys are content creators a bit refreshing for you a bit of a different thing for you guys. Speaking to all these kids over there you gotta stay up on the twitches. Manam sound old. Right now you've got to stay on the twitches and yeah the twitches and the and the tweets and the ford nights. I'm sure it's a lot easier to relate to these players than the likes of which were we were used to in the past. Is that the case for you. Yeah i think so. I think you feel a sense of pride. Don't you any just relate to the mall when they've come through our youth system and they all that much more relatable because like you say the chelsea's of the past i mean we've had some world class saved styles people that you can't even believe applying row team whereas now there's rule homegrown talent coming through. I mean that's exciting for us guys unexciting on just because yeah you do Nights that much will joe. I think in terms of this group. I've gotten to know you a little bit before we started going with this interview. And i think if anyone can tap into that emotional home khomeinism on this zoom like i can. It's you. I'm getting carried away with what i've seen here recently that all the signing seem to really become an online right now i actually have legitimate title hopes watching this team. What's your takeaway as we head into this international break. I'll be honest with you. Mike getting fox to do that thing. We step back a little bit I'm started the first game of the season. Bryson off. i think you know at the end of the postmark chalk said is the first towards but genuinely the moeletsi comes together. You do see that because like hobbies looted. You've got woke loss. Plays that you had yesterday. You know when you about fruits of chelsea teams have won the tights when you have a really strong spiny talk about check terry lampard dropbox. Go for that. Now you've got you've got to you've got mandy. You've gotten to canada. You've got christian Abraham plays the Change in player. No did not same role of course different rotor to make chelsea what we expect from really does it feels it feels sometimes when you see people talking about liverpool manchester city your little bit on kay you carry on talk about them because quietly on about business and if you've seen over the last few weeks everyone criticized frontline in chelsea conceding goals we fix that in in the to what we didn't score any goals scored enough goals then adding three enforcing in four side. Ever ever everything they want. Set up everything they wanna say about jokes. He chose to go. Yeah fine you keep doing that. While people are talking about other teams i think quietly and happily for once because it never quite when you're chelsea liam i'm happy to business on genuinely do believe that we are real johnson sees zach. I wanted to bring up. A couple of mentioned already christian pulisic. Let's address the elephant in the room. We are american english. We're talking about erector elephant. The american we're talking about the metric system before we started recording so From your perspective right christian pulisic is just a player at chelsea for us. He's our great american hope. How have you seen his development particularly that restart period this season. He's dealing with injury. But how how have you seen his development chelsea. i think he's probably more than just a just. The planet chelsea like personally because a very very vulnerable. I knew new nathan about him when he a dortmund as well and since he's come to chelsea may have had a bit more slowest maybe doctrines the league wherever but especially after that re stop periods he was arguably the best player in the squad we can. We got we relying on you. Think back to before the as well against early when he pathak hat trick. Everything about him has the capability of being a world. Trust plan and there. There were several pricing chelsea's called Possible that things have been said about chelsea g. Today we signed but part of me thinks that not just appreciate with mace and mountain. A few on threes jiang's Just to mention a few but there are still well crossed possibly woke up at players. Dan have already been there. Last season was signed to develop. He still really really young. I think forget as well even though he has been playing for years. Now the champions league while with dortmund's he's still really really young and now he's he's either. Come this battle this this injury. The psyches reoccurring but weddings when he's on his day. He's playing to optimal level which seems to be improving month-on-month especially like it was before the race. I think back to the us on tastic even in the fa cup final talk about result but before and he looked like if it goes gonna happen is gonna come from him. And it's very exciting to kind of know that that left flank when he is fully fit as hayes. I'm not really anyone can days takeaway from him. There was a fair amount of skepticism. Anytime in american like we feel that we were actually over in the uk when they signed christian pulisic and we heard some of the criticisms and to be blunt with you there fair because they still need to prove themselves on this international level now since then christians really opened the door for a lot of americans play on superclubs but post restart christian as you said. It seemed as though there were certain times. It's just christian. Bale out the only way that you were getting the goal is five through some tackles flash speed have one touch from and then you do the rest and it was in that span of time that he really earned the number. Ten has the chelsea supporters base. Really come around. On this player we were talking about the tactics of football. And how he fits in and and we all appreciate the skill but this a bit of a sensation over there in the uk or still some mild skepticism. Abby there is a lot of love the sage. I think i think he's going to be the first big american football star in the primarily. I think all our fans are really excited about him. But also not sleep in the major of people like gary lineker do much today ahead that we ended up to him. I think people are just watching him play in. How can you not be. He's one of those players that's just a joy to all he's got he's creativity and as we've alluded to he can create something out nothing brooklyn brundige you are. He's going to give the european. Rafe causes trouble. Yeah i think he is just showing a welcomes play. He is so young. So i personally call way to heights that he reaches over the next two years. Joe i wanted to ask you just about the shift in mentality. That watching chelsea has kind of under really in a period of three weeks because they play a three three with southampton. There's mistakes at the back and there's issues and then all of a sudden from one game to the next. They can't stop keeping clean sheets when they go a goal down to sheffield united. It looks like they're gonna comfortably come back and win. It feels like the feeling around chelsea has changed in such a short space of time. Massively massively i think i think you've hit an island the head thereby mentality. I think you know we talk about tiago. Silver and the impact that he's had not just on the field off the field. You know when you've got a leader when you've got a presence like that the younger players can look to the spin- don it. That's one eighty caps for brazil. Pirate well cups when everything. There is to win pretty much power. Sandra mannion knows as a phenomenon. So when you've got someone that you can rely on an old song you know you've you've meant Can obviously he someone will. He carries the hopes of american. He plays each kind of the main guy is it. was he's responsibility. He's got out that leadership trait and sign you. Go through the team He's done it for a long time a Zig beforehand beforehand Twenty-one captains live acoustic for most of the season nausea you. Go for the human is that there's so many lead many characters in front end pod spoken about that in buying stolen out for a while so so i think we will will quietly confident that when frank put a team out that he wanted to win these players will come back. We're not even talk show on zee. Share is just magic. But but when when you've got all these places are coming back together and all of a sudden things dots walk. i think he's i think he's a mentality. Saudi thing i think she chose all of a sudden of gone about things have started to click. Things starts working confidence. They once once you go edward menu. You've been phenomenal in goal than the back fulfill comfortable when the back full of a consistent Backfire because james asks the question can come into change mark but for the five play then midfielder front confident and then it really does rallies through the team. I think the shift in kotla weeks is probably been shift. That has been coming for a long time. But i think he's probably. We've only just seen it recently. Because france at the luxury of selecting from a full complement for the first time. Zaka close out with you before i properly close out and geek out over music with abby just briefly going over bio i have so many questions because once i saw bbc radio one. I got massively excited. But joe touched on this before. About how the criticisms of lampard like. Oh you can't stop conceding. Then he stops well. You can't score. Well he stops. Adam remember last year. There were always these marks in the road. You can't beat. Only he can't beat spurs. We were at that match at spurs. It felt like the ground was very unstable. But frank lampard has met every challenge so now now that they keep saying you can't score you can't stop letting other teams score. I'm kind of hoping someone tells us. We can't win the premier league this season because franks about to prove them wrong again on this player just as manager because we know him as a player he was able to overcome all sorts of adversity and all sorts of doubters. But now frank lampard the tactician and the manager seems to be answering some questions. Yeah one hundred percent. I think he's proving it with every game. Now i think people forget like it wasn't an easy job to come into chelsea is one of these clubs in the world let alone in england have such a such a big fan base. Then you add the fact that he's one of the biggest players who have played older crops are whatever happens. He's putting that legacy that has on the line again. I'm ben you have the fact that you've just lost. His best plant has a combined you play as many transfers and at he's been going not using the youth as well and successful. I think back van originally if you said chelsea would get full when the champions league and bring on Three everyone was of any did it and any smashed it and so now he has not really shy. That if you think back to the first game loss lost four near old trafford Traffic nunu a privately. Bateman the fa cup only gonna social against all snow. He's really starting his tactical prowess he realized he made. He did get it wrong by. Not starting georgina when we played them. It was happy to make a substitution before golf time which is normally like a thing. Do and site. I got it wrong and then we won't win that game so i think he's really signed to to come into his and again i think people forget he's also really young in the manager of the managers role is only manage voice. Third year people talk as if he's been doing it for years and years and years law capable mentioned that ali is is iago. He's been managing for nearly a decade. Now so i mean there's little digging. Their program made by. Yeah i am. Part is really really coming into his. I mean with a tough tough kind of break k. Till christmas now we faced a a decent amount of them have taught hof teams like also spies As well and if he can kind of if he can guys games and also make sure we're beating the no-doubt opponents newcastle ben. I'm expecting a great christmas. We had pat nevin on our podcast earlier at at the start of this whole pandemic and he's got music credential secretive music credentials and it's a fun story there but abby you have outside pat like the most music credentials out of any guess. We've had here on chelsea mike. Wbz radio on siriusxm for very long time. And i would always listen to bbc radio one in here in zane lowe break new music and your breaking new music out there with a younger team that we have now a chelsea once again my boomer self trying to connect to the youth right now are have you connected with any of these players over music and if so what are they listening to and that chelsea locker room you i would love tonight. I don't know if the boys can offer any insight into what's being blasted out in the locker room moment but from following them onsite shows there are some players that have not the music as well. So i'd love to play with them at some point. Tammy biggest music. He's he's been on hold was stones. Am and a lot of really cool rapids. Come in three right now. But yeah i need to. I need to go through their record. Collections ray. Maybe that can be a challenge when things get back to normal. I'm gonna sit down and taught me with them probably can sing as well. Connie top. he's got seen funchal right every annoyingly side yet. How is initiation video for villa swazi as a cop out there he is he has got a voice is good. Isn't it the town. I was really surprised. Amazing amazing. I gotta check it out. Joe fleming's abby mccarthy zag lab. Thank you so much for joining us here on chelsea miked up remember. You don't have to watch live to support what they're doing. We get numbers on this thing. Folks in this chelsea content check out the official facebook the official youtube page go to the fifth sandeep. Watch what these guys do over match. They live they put our tremendous chelsea content. And hopefully it's not the last you've heard of them on chelsea miked up. Thank you guys so much. Thank you this is to call. You're listening to chelsea. Mike special treat here as we close out our show. It's just banter between you. And i chris. But we bring on the wildly popular jenny to jenny. I love your videos that you do for at chelsea f c in usa an a star turn because he immediately this. This shows you the reach of at chelsea usa because mmediately you go from doing those videos so week later. You're on my tv screen doing champions league coverage as messy on the ij stories. I'm like what is happening right now. So jenny quite the sar in our industry by jimmy choose sock because she's blowing up and proper blue cross blue. Oh loves chelsea. So let's get into it because jenny. I need someone to help. Sort of fire me up a little bit. Although chris would argue the help. I love the energy. You bring you bring the energy. And i probably you know maybe got the champions gate because of chelsea f c. Usa were so popular. Maybe that's what it was. It's it's gargantuan the reach of this club. So i will be very careful because i don't wanna pose this question because we've already done our interview segment and you're just a pal here. You're here to support me and talked me through all my emotions and feelings. So i just put this out to you. Tell me how many points shelter. You're gonna win the primarily by. Come on what you think. We're gonna win i actually. I'm curious you think we're going to win. Journey in the earlier segments crafting. The it's there for the taking especially with what happened liverpool now. I would argue that. Liverpool was bound to dip anyway is given what we saw after project research. In fact that their form was. Just not sustainable. You can't be that good that long at that age chelsea. I thought were maybe a year away and this might be a good time for manchester city to maybe pick up on. Some of the points set liverpool. Start up on when i see. Tammy abraham locked in the way that he has. When i see ben show who a lot of chelsea fans were skeptical about entering and now he's been incredible the side. I was obviously a little worried at age. Thirty six at ti goes silva must have enough. I mean there's a reason why you're getting into play like that on a free transfer. There seem to problems with the goalkeeper that stretched just be on kappa but now edward mendy just strolls into the side and now has the best primarily save percentage jenny. There's not a lot of quantifiable data here to tell me to actually come down. Listen listen i've heard you many times. Get very excited. When i heard the pod way back when i hear the excitement in them like this is it for us but things don't always check out that way so the difference now okay i think is i have this overwhelming confidence in franklin which i don't typically have and i think and i don't know whether people that are more so into the technical tactical speak will appreciate this or absolutely hate me for it but i as christmas care about the human. I am like such lead by human lead by empathy type of human and frank does that for me and i think that as previous player that can get the best out of your players for me. That's got the best out of me. And i think that it only goes up from the confidence growing between the players in france between the players themselves. I mean the team seems to continue to combine. Continue to grow in terms of wanting to be creative together and trying different things that i think chelsea can only go up. I don't know how you look at the human aspect. I think that frank has something that other managers. Just it's different. I think he really genuinely does care about the human morrisseau journey to echo your point he can relate to these players better than let's just say roy hodgson or someone else. These players that are of a certain age that they grew up watching him and then growing up watching him was like four years ago. That's how young these players are. That also is how quickly. Frank lampard has ascended up the managerial ranks. But last year frank lampard was extended a certain level of credit that maybe sorry wasn't because of his legendary chelsea status but when the criticisms came in it was very easy to point to. If you're a frank lampard apologists and came up for the guy he didn't make any signings. They lost their best player. He didn't he didn't hand pick any of that back line. I know that the sats were damning but now you see with one window just his influence his ability to identify talent and men. This team is poised not just for this year. Because anyone can tell me. Look you're good but it's gonna take some heartbreak some suffering. I get that fi-. But i will not stand for anybody pushing back and telling me that we're not at the beginning. Something special here. This is oh this is going to be overrun with four four. A while and that was always a plan and just to kind of round out like the thing. That was the big question about lampert. If there was one is that you can sort out the defense. They conceded three goals against southampton immediately. After the game the stats was like sixty. Six goals conceded in the premier league and forty one forty two games. And it's can. He set up a team to defend done the last six weeks. Pick up five clean sheets and give up one goal to sheffield united like. It's it's incredible. How in the space of weeks. And i think jenny when we started the conversation. You like really. I don't know. I think it's really just the shortness of sample right. It's only been three weeks of play like this where they look like a title contender but still we're watching the sheffield game and i texted the both of you like chelsea win the league and i think that's a legitimate conversation that we're having now and look they're only three points off. Leicester what are the two points off. Tottenham like the primarily table is not daunted. Chris we're not the only ones having the conversation even like not chelsea people are questioning. Wow this team has something and and you. You mentioned that back line. It is the fact that there is more consistency in a back line. And that's all we've been asking for that's all you really want and you have it now. And the attackers i mean. I think you're right mike. I'm sorry that i called you out and said are you think we're winning now. There's definitely the beginning of something. Honestly the people in my life that push back on this notion as a group chat with london is blue guys and we love the london's blue guy But look when nick enters room he's not exactly like rosy right he kind of has his own his own stick and he's not joining us on the why not us train and i think if you're pushing back on this it's because you're holding onto something that you saw previous that this new core especially along that back line i understand. It may be too much too soon but either way you're not going to call my excitement too much nicolini. You know winners. You actually played on the national level for the mexican national team and you know wing play and we started this conversation in the first block about key. I wanna get into it a little bit more in depth with you because you know that position better than i do just gas bag here but i think that there is a real case. This is gonna sound nutty. Because i already have handed chelsea the premier league but i'm ready to also ahead a key player of the season. I think it could be that important. And for player with such incredible service to be able to look at kai habits. Tamie abraham now. Who's incredibly on form team. Oh varner christian pulisic we. Chris and i talk all the time. About how as we are by how instinctual he is. I think ben chihuahuas now. Some of those backpost runs is showing you that it can be in the right position to an embarrassment of riches and targets for kings. Es to pick out there. I'm wondering what you think about. The moroccan magician unlucky fan especially after this last match. I mean he did wonderfully. I think i mean. I don't know how point this out my video. Now that i've mentioned it. But when you see the ball that he puts in he just picks like not event. He doesn't look he may be peaks. I don't know what school this was Or was it just a ball verner he. He just picks his chin up and he did it the he did it against chelsea four. I x his body positioning. I know there's a lot of cool screen caps out there but he plays coy because he has supreme confidence that he doesn't need the stare down the target or give any inclinations so where he's going with it is quite confidence and it's really impressive. You give quote about this to the chelsea website. Said i always look at them. Before i played the ball usually eye contact is enough and you can see you work well two time. He's got this little glimmer of like just this. It's almost like mischievousness. Like i saw him out of the corner. And i played it in like. It's just kind of ridiculous kind of tell telepathy to have with a group of players that you've only just met really now mike. I think he is the perfect woman. You said in fact you can tell that he has that specific incident. He can see it. Just a ball's if he whips in so perfectly placed and he just peaks like i'm trying to find like maybe he saw way before nope he just peaks in. It's enough for him to know exactly where it's going to be the speed that the players going to get to that while at the exact time i mean. It's just it's beautiful. It's beautiful to watch. Are you getting ahead of yourself by saying premier league player of the year. I don't know but it's exciting. Maybe just slightly considering. I think he's just played his second full primarily. Maybe i'm getting ahead of myself. But one of the things that i've noticed and we saw this at other positions and the and the goalkeeper shis competition. It makes the team better. I think james is a service actually improving when he sees what teams is also doing on the right. There's competition on the training ground. Because i think one aspect. That reese james a service could improve. Is they look beautiful. Coming off the boot right. I mean they're powerful and he's just missing target sometimes but to be able to finesse. I think re sometimes too often goes for power and being able to be on that training ground with the likes of zia's there's going to be a bit of a competition between those players on that right side to provide the better service. You don't think they're hearing it from players in the locker room and tammy and team you guys the score goals for living. They want the better service. He's going to figure out what team is doing. Well and he's got to try to replicate that more often if i was in the box and both of them are sending across this. I would tell. Reese why you hitting it so hard. You're going to make some questions. Alexia although kerr zuma's probably not hard enough capped. Jump in the air ricocheting there. I'll put a hole in the net. Just be flames like it's back to the future tire marks. Just keep working them in the one thing. Though from research standpoint is that. I do think the one thing that he can learn from would be that as you mentioned makes that i contact. He knows what he's doing if feels. Like sometimes reese puts in a great cross but it's kind of like in the hopes that someone would be there rather than expecting someone to be there. I just think that extra mental aspect of my services to meet the moment not just be a great cross for the sake of it. I think is probably something that he can probably pick up onto. Yeah it seemed. Like reese and this is no knock against reason please. If you think we're that podcast got us mistaken. This is ray shames. Miked up often. We love the but i do think that maybe he's a volume player at times volume shooter and he just thinks if i keep whipping it in their eventually. It'll connect sometimes. It does. But i think kimes maybe has a little bit more patient. Obviously the player also a little bit older right so he has a little bit more experience in these things and his vision seems unparalleled right now given that he just needs a look up or a split second and see the entire game in front of them. And i think it's only gonna make reese james that much better that's why i'm building my case up for teams as premier league player this season. I want to talk about the women's team because this is really the first full season that chris wittingham at a dive in headfirst being able to watch this chelsea women's team now. If you're chelsea diehard supporter. I am no excuse. Get on the bus now because this team is good much like the men's team is getting more cohesion. Gelling more and more chemistry and has all this amazing talent and hayes in the women's side to the exact same thing. Avenging their fa cup loss against everton over the weekend chelsea look primed and ready to get some hardware and that one will not have anyone. Talk me down on. These are the super league champs. Lookie there i'm with you there you know. I want to admit my ignorance here coming into this. I knew sam kerr. And that was about as much as i knew when i started this gig and now i'm such a huge fan of all of them. I mean cornell harder is insane like she'll have one goal which absolute amazing goal in this match What looked the seventh minute of extra-time. What is the proper technaglass extra time anyway. I mean such a beautiful goal but her movements are also just like tantalizing the proper term to watch the way that she used the game. S while you're thinking about intelligence you thinking about dishes she has it all and obviously you women's player of the year that's not an accident and there's a reason for it but admitting my ignorance i knew sam career and i didn't really know that much about her and now i'm such a huge fan. Oh my gosh and the results we can were amazing for us. I didn't even realize until. I pull the women's super league table. There is a big actually top of the table clash elsewhere in women's super league in an arsenal men. United beat them one nil and so arsenal. Who for me were the standout team of the women's super league. They dropped their first points of the season and so chelsea right now are three points off manchester united with a game in hand. So they're right in that title. Reysen you kinda need those results elsewhere to go your way if you've dropped results with chelsea have early on in the season so a good result elsewhere in the performance for me beth. England was probably the standout performer. This match against everton. And it's funny because whoever is chelsea striker is going to be graded against a curve a little bit because the chances they create are so good. There's like an expectation that the chelsea striker. Whether it's kerr or beth england or whoever is going to be like expected to score six times because like and it was funny because beth england's go twice in this match and even so the commentator is like well. She's let herself down a couple of occasions in this match when she gets right like the expectation is five times now. I feel miss for not mentioning bethany england. What an aggressive player. I mean the way that she she goes after. The keeper goes after the last defender. It's she's so hungry for it all the time and you see her reaping rewards for that aggressiveness. And i love it. I love what. I'm seeing on both training grounds especially with taming abraham rising to the occasion on the men's side and we had an a hazier chelsea mic'ed up and its survival of the fittest out. There you play you show me what you do on the training ground and i'll find ways to get you all in their mid multiple players on this women are playing out of what is perceived to be their natural position but there are still finding ways to make key contributions all pull on the same rope and share in each other's success. It's a beautiful thing to see. Let's actually have some fun here with jenny and invite her into some of our benchmarks here. Chris let's get the mail bag going and have jenny to answer some questions. Well the unfortunate thing is that the first question is already been asked and answered by yourself. Mike is from ad carefree underscore. Jam cam hakim. Houdini can he get premier league player of the year. Now my my. I didn't get a chance to respond to that. I would say hurricane probably has a case right now doing some very good football right now at the moment. Although chelsea to actually do play tottenham coming up pretty soon out of out of the international break but the other question comes from at max shop nick. He writes. Where does billy gilmour fit into the squad wants. He's fit and it's funny. Because i was looking at the chelsea twitter this morning and they've put out some video of him smashing a ball into the bottom right in the bottom corner in training so he is back out there. Do you think we've seen some changes in this midfield. Where does he fit in. And just in terms of getting back in whether it's in that coach position that mount position even in the harvard's position like there's so many different ways that you could use him in that center field. One billy gilmour. There's only one. Billy gilmour chris the melting of skills jenny. I think you're going to be with me on that. Because when chelsea were shrugging shuttling this season it seemed as though the pivot just wasn't working the partnerships in midfield we just can get the right combination of players. Now much of that was dictated through injury but right now a player working himself back from injury that melds a lot of these skills. His service maybe not quite giorgio but outside of giorgio second-best in that midfield to be able to cover ground not quite contact but second best in terms of being able to cover ground in that midfield although ms. mount might have an argument now that he's a fulltime midfielder. It would appear. Billy's i mean. He does a great defensive work. He has good vision out of that midfield. I think there's a clear path now. County is holding it down right now absolutely holding it down but you gotta give that guy is he's getting older and he has and lord knows he's been dealing with more knocks. This is just yet another weapon for frank lampard to have another young weapon to be able to give guys some nights off save their legs because injury soon golo content really on did any realistic chances. That chelsea might have had for making the title chase a little bit more interesting. I'm super excited about billy gilmour also coming online. Now i'm with you mike. I think that for me. He's he's definitely going to come in more depth more competition which as we we spoke about is so important and is what is breeding success and causing the growth of the team. What i started right away. Now that he's off. Like no. I think he earns his way up and franken said you know he. He picks based on training. And so i trust that if he starting it's because he's had a great week of training echo those sentiments in just to push back on all harry kane here. The neutral observer. We're going to learn a lot about tottenham right now. The books sat on josie marino. He's got that that locker room buying in joe's a year two but if you've seen their most recent matches and sing with spurs where we forget their europa league struggles. It's it's pretty amazing to me. But the next couple of matches coming up for tottenham man city arsenal chelsea in between those liverpool. Coming up on deck. After that we're gonna learn a lot about tottenham. I know their fans are excited and are talking primarily. they're having the same kooky conversations we're having without any of the self awareness. Because they're taught them but if tottenham can survive this upcoming stretch i'll buy in on having those conversations. I'm always going to have a fair amount of respect for their manager and especially their manager in your to next season's when the wheels fall off. Yeah well yeah i. I can't wait for that to happen. But i mean canaan son has just been so good together. Cain is seven goals eight assists this season. If you're if you're contributing basically two goals a game and you know they're they're winning at the death because of him but you're right. I mean it's been a soft schedule for them in recent times but i think harry kane right. Now it'd be probably runaway player. The season although i mean jimmy vardi dominic lou and they've got their cases to before we wrap things up a little bit of news and notes as we head into the international break christian pulisic has joined the us. Men's national team for training gregg berhalter really spoke positive things about christians ability even though he's dealing with an injury at chelsea to be able to be there in training camp and be with his teammates. It's really important for the chemistry of that team. Even if he doesn't get out there on the pitch one thing that we'd like to do in this final segment chelsea. Mike sometimes highlight some of the great supporters clubbed. That are out there in this great nation of ours. Chris who we have this week. Well mike you've told the story before about the a. blues but this is actually a subsection. I guess la is such a big city. There's room for two clubs in that town. This is chelsea in la nineteen o five. This emission comes from richard west. Who's actually in a pop group. Known as mr see from the pop group of the shaman. An they've had a number one smash you're playing before the program for us as an international deejay and techno producer a londoner born in obviously in england who supported chelsea from aged eleven starting in one thousand nine hundred seventy six seventy seven in the second division of the old english pure images reading mister. C's weakest pedia right now. Mr you being mr the that makes sense because your name is chris. I don't know where someone called. Richard west gets off being called. Mr see. i have my questions but also we're also going to take your word for it here. I sure i don't. I don't think many people are pretending to be mr see. I will absolutely accept your explanation. Proceed telling us about this. Wonderful supports club. Can i make us emission. That i want to be mr c. Instead of the neutral observer other the pod henceforth come up with a banger. Ebeneezer goode and you could be called to whatever you want. If mr c is who he says he is. You can do whatever you want. You can replicate that kind of success. Either way mr c. Moved to la ten years ago joining the la blues. He claims that he taught them. All the old school songs with his help says the blues one best supporters chapter of all premier league clubs in the entire usa. Although after the blues moved they decided to start their own club. Chelsea the east side of los angeles and he says they have the best dressed chelsea pub in the world. Many bespoke flags that that have been made noisiest supporters in the world. He says due the pandemic they have met for games on zoom. A but once the are they'll be back there but chelsea in la one of many supporters clubs in the country and apparently one of many in los angeles. Now i don't think this is. La galaxy l. afc type of hostility. So i think we can all look around and say. Hey we're all chelsea fans here. I spent time with the la chelsea blues. I'm one of the founding fathers of that whatsapp group so shout out to dexter and the chelsea blues. I had a great time. Sweating out a match against bournemouth next to you guys. And when i say sweating out. That's quite an early start out there in. La porn from the brow. Just saying i have respect bourbon early in the morning. The hell no previous. It was a previous leg. All i see okay. Yeah i mean i mean. Sometimes four am local time kickoff. I don't know where you people find the strength out there. So thank you so much to the incredible support out there on the west coast and jenny. Thank you so much for joining us here. On chelsea mike we plan on having on many many more times and continued success. Love watching your work. Both on chelsea f c say and with cbs sports covering the champions league with all that being said. Oh it's our pleasure. Jenny you never have to mention it. Now we've all agreed to kim's. Es player of the season plan for the chance to into this international break with one residing hope and that is health. Just be fit because it does feel. I think we're all in agreement that chelsea at the sort something very special here so please know knocks a no nonsense international break home and we get back into what is now. I believe a title march until we speak again up details.

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Caught Offside: Coronavirus update, UCL recap and more

Caught Offside

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Caught Offside: Coronavirus update, UCL recap and more

"Caught offside with every gumming finch. Jj Davani yes offside upper west side of Manhattan and Jay J. Defend what's up brother. What's all I mean? We're on the precipice of the collapse of world sport or the suspension. At least yeah these are I would say that. The last twenty four hours Like as a sports fan as a global citizen but like as a sports fan it's been the most surreal Twenty four hour period that I've ever seen in the history of sports from I. Guess if you took it from the start of Manchester City and Arsenal choosing to postpone their game because arsenal players were in quarantine And you took that all the way through the message last night from the NBA that their season was being suspended In between you have reports that the answer AA will be banning fans from attending March madness. Which is a thing that I can't even wrap my mind around because fans and March madness just so inextricably linked with one another that. I can't even separate the two like picture. The final four without people what this is and then you wake up this morning. We're now in a new cycle where it's all domino's are now falling And I every minute every hour every second at things I it seems that things are just updating at a speed. That is it's making your head Spin Yeah. I I lived through the foot and mouth incident in in Europe in two thousand and one and I remember sporting being cancel. Large gatherings cancelled all those things but it was never on a scale like this. Nothing close to this no panic. Because of its effect on the economy to an on also was it was to do livestock. And in a rural country garden that matter but this is this affects across the board. In a way I've never experienced. It feels like we're living on a movie like this watching television last night and being on the Internet just none of the seem real. It's very surreal. Yeah and you want to take this podcast. Two Years Zero. No everything's over. We don't talk about football now. We only talk about the Corona Virus. Low we can. We can take people behind the scenes. You and I we talk before every show we talk about what we WanNa do and you know to me. This is now like the news is just coming at such a speed and the stories that are coming out. We haven't even gotten to the most The most recent news developments pretending to soccer in that. Mls has been suspended Jeff Carlyle where we're recording this at like twelve ten right now eastern time twenty seconds ago. Jeff Carlisle just tweeted. That CONCACAF champions has been suspended all upcoming. Us Men's national team and US Women's national team friendly's have been suspended Still waiting word on what's going to happen with the Premier League Lollygag is taking a temporary hiatus. Real Madrid are in quarantine after a member of the Real Madrid basketball team tested positive for corona virus. At the team's facility sky reporting that Lester players show symptoms. Leicester boss Brendan Rodgers. A few of his squad have shown symptoms of the corona virus. There scheduled face Wofford at vicarage road on Saturday in the Premier League reports of. I'm almost hesitant to do this. But Guillaume ballet is a journalist. I think that is generally trusted. He has a tweet from an hour ago. Citing lucky in France The tweet reads in the UEFA meeting on Tuesday. It will be confirmed that the Champions League and Europa League will be suspended he writes in parentheses which is a sentiment that I would echo. Why wait till Tuesday? Then he adds saying plus the Euros will be moved to twenty twenty one. These are these are just like unbelievable events unfolding at light speed right. Let's can I just read to you? If his statement today are of course in the light of the ongoing developments in the spread of covert nineteen across Europe and the changing analysis of the World Health Organization you F S Today invited representatives of it's fifty five member associations together with the Boards of the European Club Association on the European Leagues Anna Representative of fief pro to attend meetings by videoconference thankfully on Tuesday seventy the march to discuss European football's response to the outbreak discussions with include all domestic and European competitions including away. Your twenty twenty further communication will be made fun does meetings so that kind suggests that everything's on the table. Yeah and you know what I've been. I've it's funny since this whole thing has started. I feel like I've I've kind of like see-sawed there have been days when I was like you know what I'm not sure. How big a deal this is and then there were other days where you turn on the news and you think. Oh my God this is truly terrifying and you kind of go back and forth because we were not educated in this matter but I think now I think we all need to kind of move ourselves into the corner of. We don't know anything and we have to trust the people and the experts that do know like I was thinking about this. Jj because I've heard you've I bet you've come in contact with a lot of similar kind of people and I'm not. I'm not trying to blame them. But I've come in contact with a lot of people who are freaking out at the freak out people who are kind of the mindset of. This is nothing wires all this happening. The economy is in the tank. We are losing billions of dollars for a thing. That's not that this is a non story and we're in freak out mode and I think now I I've been trying to like because I know we're going to do a soccer podcast so I've been trying to liken that to like what's a soccer analogy for what happened right now and I was thinking. Let's say you're walking down the street yesterday after Liverpool lose that game and you're wearing Liverpool Jersey and a guy comes up to you and says you're collapse gotta be fired and say that guy. Oh okay are you like a Liverpool Fan. No well are you a former front office executive who knows how these things no well. Are you like somebody who have you played? Soccer do have any soccer background. No not really but I heard were playing well so I started paying attention a couple of weeks ago and since I started paying attention they really have not been doing well. He should be fired. Well you don't know what you're talking about. Your opinion means nothing to me. So like all these guys that you work with and friends that you come in contact with the you're just having casual conversations with that suddenly want to act like they're experts on the corona virus. You don't know anything. Let's all just shut up and allow the experts to do their job and just do what they tell us to do on that note get onto CDC dot org for all corona virus information. How to protect yourself what it is on. What's happening daily updates? You can log on at any time. You can also see it on twitter. Don't be heating Jim in levittown right. Who's been re tweeted by your friend? Book and don't allow your opinion to be swayed by that guy because he doesn't know he doesn't know by the way there are some pundits in the media. Who are talking about this thing. A certain branches in the media who don't know what they're talking about either the World Health Organization this CDC. That's those are the people you need to be listening to Right. Now onto your GP. Who knows your case ending underlying conditions? You may or may not have and ultimately like Oh. I think we need to start using some common sense in how we're perceiving the seriousness of this in that like we can all say in a moment of a public health crisis. You know. Money doesn't matter. We need to put the the well being of the people I and that is true but let's also remember in a capitalistic society. Money does matter the NBA is not suspending their season for nothing the NC Double A. They have two huge events here. The College Football playoff and March madness. They are not banning fans from attending their event over nothing. They are taking advice from people who know what they're talking about like I feel like we've kind of crossed the threshold where people need to just like understand. Like if you're somebody who's still upset that you can't go to watch one of your teams playing person right now. Like tough were where in a moment? Where like yeah? Your life is going to be inconvenienced by this until we get a handle on. What's going on so like you know. Hopefully you know I don't WanNa see tweets from people. Who are you know season ticket HOLDERS FOR NASHVILLE OR ATLANTA? Or whatever saying that. They're upset that their season has been put on hold and they can't go watch their team play Because they don't think this is a big deal. I think it's that people wake up and understand. This is unlike anything we've really dealt with in our lives but it's not just sports fans though there's people out there who have embraced and this is a conversation for another day but they've embraced this going to post truth society. We're in right now where you can argue facts right. Don't do that not what days this will not discriminate. I think the World Health Organization in the CDC. And I'm not trying to be like flippant or making a joke. I honestly view those as apolitical organizations. Like they're to me. Those are not organizations. That really have a political affiliation. So if they're telling me if they're telling US something like it's it's what I am going to trust and I think that that's a safe way to handle this. These just do it. Yeah I mean this is just like we haven't even mentioned some of the other Danielle origine of Uganda's tested for the corner virus yesterday. So event is has been in quarantine. I mean if you if you get a chance to read some of the reporting coming out of Italy right now. Where the places in lockdown some you know large parts of it are in quarantine like for example. The town of of Parma is. Just you know you're not supposed to your the order are the direction is not to go outside the city walls disdain. Your home to to work from home to all those things and you hear about elderly people who are dying and they are loved. Ones can't go near them. Because of the danger of contracting and spreading this thing imagine the horror. This isn't a joke. It's just not a joke and you've got to listen to the experts. 'cause you don't know anything so from a sporting perspective. I just am wondering because like we said. The news is just happening so quickly. Like where is this heading like now? These leagues the premier. Li like we said up at this point. We haven't heard much I saw only Gomersall Shire. Yesterday says the Manchester United would support the suspension of the primarily to combat the spread of the virus. Like let's all be honest with one another. That's that's where we're headed. Yeah I mean Britain's response. Sporting response has been strange. I would say the Cheltenham Horse Horse Racing Festival which brings in hundreds of thousands of people across. I don't know how many days ten days probably more than that. Considering all the ancillary events and things that go on surrounding it that went ahead that you got the feeling with Shetland they just snuck it in before people said. Okay we gotTa Start Shutting things down I and it was strange to me. Three and a half thousand Athletico Madrid fans travelling to Liverpool last night dot is dot is dangerous. I'm sorry right now. Large mass congregations of people an even a twenty two men field. It was funny at the weekend there was no handshakes in the premier league. Yet people jumping all over each other for celebrations in close contact and tackling crashing into each other. I mean your clock is and we're going to. We will talk about some of the Champions League deliver. We are because I will make sure that we do. I know but like can KLOPP. Jj in the last week. Like I feel like. He's becoming a man on hinged his press conferences where he's been asked about his generally his thoughts on this virus and he's now snapping at journalists and. I understand his point. I think I kind of agree with him. But he's snapping journalists saying who am I to be answering that question I don't know why do you come to me is in over his last point to the pre the pre Madrid one not the weekend the Madrid one was. Why do you think you are outside of this? We're doing we're doing sport. I you've traveled to do that like he's trying to just say we're all part of this right. There is no a Liverpool issue. It's not like should we? Should we ban soccer to stop this thing? Don't go to the pub. You know stopped going to the theater but movies might be a bad idea for you. Jill like this isn't panic. This is what we're being told by. The people who know almost and the spread of this is really scary. I saw the video yesterday of walking through the tunnel To come out onto the field before the game and a couple of fans put their hands out to him. A high five any snaps. Thank you can read his lips. I can't say what he said on this show but like you. He's he's he's had it with all of that. He is quite. He is quite compelling when he's had enough of people you know because he is the jovial German the laughing white T. He is a charisma until he isn't and his face can quickly go from Jovial. German to the eyes bulge is a very intense. Look Yeah I remember. Last season was it. Someone asked him about him. I think was the draw with Leicester. The draw with West Ham. They asked him about his team and he was clearly frustrated in the moment. And he said you think this is playstation. You think we can just create chances score goals just like that. You know that we weren't trying. Yeah Yeah don't cross him So that is up to this moment. That is kind of where we're at. I think you know. Even though announcements haven't been made pertaining to all leagues I think we're kind of of the mindset right now that this game and sports in general really are just sort of being placed on hold. There is like a collective pause button. That's being hit until we can kind of get a grasp on an ability to contain the spread of this virus and it is worth noting to that. There have been like. I'm not an expert but I listened to people that are listening to the daily today. They're talking about how China and South Korea have made incredible strides and they were pointed out by the World Health Organization yesterday for the Strides. They made in containing the so. Hopefully other countries will begin to follow suit And no that's why. Large gatherings are being stopped. The you know that's why these prominent sporting events are being halted. Because that's like step one is to stop the spread of this in large groups So that's that's pretty much where where we're at right now with this. Do you WanNa talk about other things? Yeah I WANNA talk about the football because this might be the last football we get to talk about actual games. We get to talk about for a while. So let's make a good one friend. I know it's very weird to talk about. Games that are taking place in competitions. May Not not be not right. Not to be flippant but I want to give everyone a window into Andrew's mind right now right right now. Andrew is Kilian Murphy Waking Up in the hospital in twenty eight days later wandering across London Bridge Outta desolate empty landscape. That's where he is. I've never seen that movie. You need to click into podcasts. Mold now boyle we're talking football. I I wish you had the the Pale haunting eyes of Kilian Murphy. At least give me something something nice to stare at all right well. Let's talk about the champions. They were going to do our best. All right. We're GONNA put on. We're GONNA put on a brave face. We're GONNA do this. We'll talk soccer. I do wonder how many people really care right now. Believe me the everybody was looking forward to this podcast last night. Things have gone then. Everything happened yet. Things have gotten worse. But what what do you want us to do? I don't know I don't I don't know what I WANNA do. I WANNA talk football. I WanNa Talk Ball. Let's start with what was really the standout match from the last several days. Really and that is Liverpool What an incredible game against Athletico Madrid the second leg liver. Pour out of the Champions League in the round of sixteen. Their defense of their European crown will go no further There's a lot of angles to get from their game specifically. I guess we'll start trying to which I want to start with. I guess we'll start with the one that is kind of like really was making waves. And that is the the goalkeeper issue for Liverpool because it seemed like immediately the game ended and the blame game began and a hundred percent of the blame was being pointed at one man and that was Adrian. Well it's not all about Adrian put. His mistake was a fundamental shift in the game. I'm was a mistake on a night like that that you can't make no. There was other key moments for me nor failing to make contact with good chance loss in the first half the second half. I think Robertson hitting the crossbar. No chance was the first half Robinson hitting the crowd I don't know how Robertson didn't score That was a big chance. I will say the defender went. When I watched the second angle there's defender Khanna puts off a little bit so actress and can't get quite as clean ahead on it. As as obviously would have panned quite amulet downwards which but he's from such close range yet you expected in that too bullish and believe it yeah But look it was. It was a key moment in a game that was finely poised Liverpool. Didn't have the away goal. Of course it matters and there was an instant momentum. Shift at that moment. Pat Nevin was on the BBC last night. Talking life from Anfield about what that moment. Adrian's flobbed clearance meant for the game little control of that but at Dame just didn't we've all been in before when everyone jogging. Look in vain day you load and unexpected goal and suddenly looks to Yaas Lore looks exhausted suddenly the game plan Joe Trillo as well get how many senior center half backup to Santa. Nfo and then you know. It's a complete pining. Why was surprised that in that situation as big ten didn't have eight NATO non. Stop that they didn't have any bow. Oem to go. They made a couple of changes. Bomb just never harmed the new yourself. When you've got to perfecting minute Champions League you expected to have at least a bank drive. There was nothing that was new energy. I'm not blaming anyone except the probably just a Bagel scored true the minute that that goal went in that was it Liverpool. Just couldn't pick it up again and I think Andrew that's as good a performance over the ninety at least as Liverpool have poured in since Lester on Stevens Day on boxing day that that's their best most complete performance. There were absolutely added bought for all the chances they had. I mean thirty four shots. Eleven on target two goals wasn't enough and has pointed out the for me. No gold needed to happen. Within the ninety minutes the second goal have to happen within the ninety minutes yeah because Liverpool out on their feet. I tweeted last night. I enjoyed that game immensely absolutely immensely and I can't be you know totally upset. I am disappointed where the champ is but I thought that was a brilliant performance from Liverpool and they just they just thought moment from Adrienne he kicks it out he can't it's terrible terrible Malta. Terrible moment he can't readjust his footing. Quick enough on the next thing the balls in the back of the next steps up off the turf you can make one mistake. But you can't compound that mistake with another but Andrew. It was in the wires. It was in the mail it was in the Post. The only had a bad game against Burma. There's no was. He looked on shore of himself against Borth and in the in the NFL Cup. In the second half yeah the ethical too in the second half he makes a brilliant save from the feet of one of the political Madrid players. After because he's he's made a mess of an easy shot from Zhao Felix. So he was always liable to do this right the only he is to blame like if we are going to talk about why this happened. He his name is certainly on. That list might even be top of the list. The only reason that I struggle to like shiny entirety of the spotlight on him for why this went wrong. I mean through ninety minutes. He held he. Did you can say he had a mistake. You're there but like he did hold Athletico Madrid to a clean sheet over the day day. Get in make. He didn't make a truly crippling. I mistake until the ninety seven I know but it led to go hardly troubled Liverpool goal for most of the ninety. Let's be perfectly honest. They had A. They had a couple of chances. But chances you would expect team of their quality to have but like when team takes thirty four shots Like Liverpool did I mean. How many shots did they have in the ninety minutes without with only getting I go I'm not. I'm not even sure. What ninety probably like thirty shots or so and you can make the argument like The expected goals was two point. Nine to one point one Thoughts from Mike. Kelly's graph in favor of liver favor of Liverpool Lau. Yeah that's a but as he said sometimes football keep her as a great game. One team takes a few grit shots. The better team doesn't win and you know that. Is this game you constantly say to me. There is no deserve in football and soccer none. Now there's only the score there's only the score And I think you're going to probably did with what Mr Clapper to say. So let's talk about that your clock by his own. Admittance has turned into a very. How did he put it in a very subpar loser? He's a sore loser and he said he said in every interview. Yeah he's now. He's not running from that reputation he is owning it. I am the sore loser and I'm GonNa Complain. After my team loses games and that was certainly on full display After Liverpool lost yesterday. This is what he said about Diego Symbionese Athletico Madrid side. And the way they chose to play he said I don't understand what the quality they have. The football they play they play proper football but they stand deep and have counterattacks. We accepted of course. But it doesn't feel right tonight. I realize I am a really bad loser. Especially when the boys put such an effort and against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four again I don't think it needs to be said it's heat of the moment. He certainly feeding things after the game but it was kind of the same point he made after the first leg. I would ask. What were you expecting? Diego Simoni is living rent-free in your head right now because after the first leg. He Pulls Saudi-omani at Halftime. Because he's afraid that some some player for Madrid's going to force him into like a fake yellow after this game he's complaining about like on. My only thing is like dig. Diego Simione is not some guy who's just trying to scrape by by the skin of his teeth and win here like this is a man who has one Lolita in an era dominated by Rao Madrid and Barcelona. He's gotten to within like centimeters of two Champions League victories You know this is a pretty accomplished manager. Who I don't. It just is weird to me to hear him spoken to like. He's some kind of like like newby who doesn't understand the way the game supposed to be played. Yeah he is a CV. Anna resume based on this type of football. That is you see. I mean maybe this is about I was gonNA save better than your can collapse. Although cloud having the champion the Champions League last year probably puts him ahead of Simeoni but it shouldn't be a better or it's it's it's somewhere along the line in football By the way what did used to be almost like a apart from conceding two goals used to be almost a classic Italian way of playing away from home. And that's a league. That Simoni cut his teeth and plan for plan for those teams that he did in Italy for Inter Milan Etcetera. So he's honed. He's turned defending good defending into an art. And I'm going to give him some praise here. Look I don't love the way he plays. I wouldn't across to play like that but you know it's it's winning football. And it was winning football. Last night look at the substitutions. He made he wasn't afraid to pull Diego Kosta. He puts in urinate. Who scores two goals he puts in Joe Felix who has a hand in the setting of the of the crucial goal for urine tests. I he brings a Murata who scored one of his own and set up another one on when legs were tired when mines were failing to stay focused. Simoni had the changes made that punished Liverpool. And that's where I give him credit I simione his response was interesting. We played to win with our weapons to win respecting our identity respecting two characteristics of the players exploiting the defects of the opponents. That's how we play if someone wants to ask me is. Savage who failed English primarily savage better defender Than Virgil Van Dyke. No but look at the mazing job that money people pointed out last night. That's only has done with those players to make them better too that's organization. There is merit to this kind of play. I think some Yanni's response to To Club and the rest of your pin football. Who Don't like the way he plays goes something like this. You don't want me anymore with that breaks my heart but it's too bad because you don't love me but you will respect me. It's Tony and Christopher. It's true though it really is true and I think he is respected. I think he's viewed by. Everyone is one of the best managers in football tonight. Yeah and again This used to be the pattern for European football. A lot of these games were tense. Edgy Defensive Affairs where mistakes and the the tiniest margin for error were exploited by the really good sites. You vent this. I can think of the past in particular doing that on here. We are again. He is like a in a ways. Like a footballing hipster. He's what old what was old new. Yeah I just find it annoying from klopp because this isn't the first time he's done this But really because like this idea of all. I'm sorry you're in that your opponent didn't play the way he wanted them to play like. Who is your clout to to judge? How other teams should be playing Athletico Madrid and Diego Simione? He did what needed to be done to beat your clubs Liverpool Team Liverpool. Like the play opened they like to attack and I think it's almost smart to set up no more defending. I think Rory Smith made another valid point that he said it wasn't it was as much about Liverpool failing to convert their chances as it was about Athletico Madrid working out bringing game plan like day were by D. They were to kneel down at one point and that moment to let them back in was crucial but when the moment happened they weren't found wanting they had the man on the field who is going to score twice. They had also another man who's GonNa set up a score one. And that's I suppose where you have to give credit even though I am as Liverpool Fan. You're devastated disappointed very dishonestly. It's why before I knew. Remember after the group stage was complete. Jj and we kind of did our recap of the group stage prediction for team to most likely to go on a run. I set up Madrid and that was before I knew. They're playing Liverpool. I got a little nervous when I thought they were playing Liverpool. What you just said is exactly it the fact that they are so strong defensively but when the moment arrives when they need to score a goal able to do that and I mean they've made a whole identity as Simoni said out of this young Last bit on this game. There's a lot more Ogden yesterday at ESPN AFC. And I think. He's kind of representing the viewpoint of a lot of soccer fans out there Who have been watching Liverpool the season going back to last season and even the year before when they get to a Champions League final win it the next year. See what they're doing the premier league this year and Mark Ogden basically wrote a piece saying it just feels like them going out at this. Stage is going to leave a bit of an empty feeling in an otherwise triumphant season for Liverpool and. I'm just wondering like the shift in viewpoint over the last couple of weeks on what Liverpool's achieving right now if that's a little bit harsh You you know. I've been consistent throughout this. I didn't think at the start of the season that Liverpool would even be titled Champions-elect. I didn't even think I thought it would be so hard to go against the mighty for another season As things move along and as the season goes along other people not klopp not Liverpool started talking maybe even some Liverpool fans started talking about what could be and that's just the way things are in sport right now. as Liverpool rolled along as the defeats didn't calm people started talking about what might be an Roy. Smith wrote a piece on this last week which was pretty good when klopp insisted he was talking. He was taking the season game by game. He was not downplaying his ambitions. It wasn't it was not one of his ambitions if it happened great but it was too distant a prospect to be considered in his plans. You don't plan to go unbeaten. You don't plan to be in the latter stages of the Champions League on top of the primarily by twenty two points it feels. I think as if there is a truth for all fans of all teams in there somewhere a less than that. Maybe everyone might learn no matter what you achieve no matter how well you do there was always someone telling you. There is something more you could have done. Liverpool should should still make Fan's dream come true this year it will just have to get used to being told that it's dream was not big enough. That's everybody else projecting onto the team. The main objective hopefully will be achieved. That's winning the premier league and everything else. I mean look at look at the three two and a half years. They've had in. It's amazing and it's it came to an end last night. It seems a little bit weird because I think we we are still going to view them as one of the greatest premier league teams of all time. I I still do think that so. Maybe it seems a little bit strange that they're not gonNA. They're not going to exit the season with the second trophy whether that was a League Cup. Fa Cup champion or even not even to win the Champions League but to go out in a relatively early stage. It's a little bit strange but I don't think that that will change the way. I the regard that I hold this team in on. Unfortunately in these zero-some game of fans on twitter and social media. This is a black mark that can never be removed because it's not about actually looking at Liverpool as a great team are evaluating the site. It's about scoring points from whatever teams perspective rival teams for perspective. Your from so. Let's put that aside for a second but like let's be proper football men here on said that this is being a brilliant season for Liverpool at the end of a brilliant run in Europe on Dot. Run like they haven't been beaten a home in. Anfield in European competition since the Real Madrid. Twenty fourteen Defeat that's incredible incredible and that traverses most of the KLOPP era That it's almost entirely the COP era. Yeah so And Look Look at the Magic Knights. We've had Dortmund came and scored two goals at Anfield. Liverpool still prevailed in that amazing semifinal. Oh Yeah I remember that night when you try to convince me that Liverpool winning that in the League was bigger than was at Barcelona Madrid Champions League semi final. Yeah I thought it was a bigger game probably are better game. Run or no bigger. It was clearly the word it was your worst. Take that you've had. I don't know if this has ever even recovered. I can't even remember that I'm sure I said something I it's just funny because you see the haters come out When a team is down like I saw this From Juan G Arango on twitter. He's I guess he's a I don't know actually who he is. But he's got Lou checkmark that means he said so much for the magic of Anfield so much for the Mystique of the COP. In my opinion they might be winning the league in a runaway manner but the season was left quite empty. In my honest opinion. This season is a failure for eighteen. That was the best in the world. God yes sure to haters. Yeah I again and again. I'm sure one is coming from some angle Roy. Never who's been on this podcast before? Who is defend or evolving? Argentinian came out and had a pop o'clock last night. Saying he's no sir. Alex Ferguson Sir. Works and it was in the twenty six years. You know what I mean like So everyone's got the role in Atlanta that culminate in football would probably tell you not altruism. I I just wish people could just like. It does seem to me now that football these days. There's a lot of people out there. They don't actually enjoy footballer. The Games are are anything about it. It's it's about the point score. I will say though and I'm not sure I don't WanNa make you feel I want you? I know we joke around but I want you to enjoy this Liverpool experience like this. You waited your whole life essentially to see this and I don't. I'm not trying to take away. I will say though the only the only way I can relate to it like as a phillies fan. They won the world series in two thousand eight and I really think that era. They had a five-year run where they were unbelievably. Good and I. But they're still part of me as great as that. Achievement was when in that world series? Like I still look back on that Erin. Feel like they were good enough to have gotten at least one more and and there is like part of me. That's Kinda like like we left one on the table Yeah now you also have Champions League. We HAVE THE ERA. So you know it. I feel like you. I'd hopefully depending on what happens. With the Corona virus the the Premier League so. That's yeah I don't I wouldn't even think about. So what are you even implying there will I season will be cancelled and no winner will be no no What's GonNa can you imagine what I think will happen? Is that There'll be some kind of shut down for a few weeks. You're twenty twenty will be cancelled and the European football season will join a little bit into the summer. The domestic season to get it finished. That's how I think well it all depends on what happens with this thing and again the rates. Well let's rates of contraction have to go down. We don't right there is no. I was talking to somebody yesterday in there. Like the strange thing about all this is that there's no end zone here like it's not like we're at the ten yard line and we know we lost four yards to go to get like we don't know where like how long this is also kind of carry on for him. So Yeah Yeah. I'll tell you what let's take a quick break when we come back. We'll take a look at the other. Three Champions League matches from the last couple of days. I have a what to watch for here. Half of that has now been essentially cleaned out Because of matches that have been suspended Boat we do have more to get to read cards man of the match and like I said the other Games So don't go anywhere. It's still allowed to do here on. Caught Offside back now on. Caught Offside All right. Jj. We persist we continue now. We we talk soccer in these strange times. Yeah I I don't know I I in me that I just feel like uncomfortable. Come Talk to you and your drifting off thinking about something else I yeah you read me perfectly either locked in come on People WanNa Talk. Want us here to heroes talk about the football as well because again like. I said when we're GONNA talk about it again. Yeah what are we going to do like? Let's say that I haven't thought about what happens to caught. Offside this podcast if there's no there's if everything's canceled. I think we I guess we get a chance to do some the things we never got to do before we get to talk about. Maybe books and documentaries podcast. People have been asking us to talk more about film. Have they really yeah? I've got a direct message of I supposed to read ages. Go about Oh I love when you guys talk. Film is anyway. I know you've got a busy schedule is not any way you can do. Another podcast about film. I don't know I think people are sprinting. For the next button on their Their feeds right now our PS G. They do it. They turn around on Borussia Dortmund in an empty stadium in Paris. And they advance to the quarterfinals. In what I think really I mean. I know it's only the round of sixteen but I think if you look at ps G. and where this has all been headed after the previous two campaigns for them in this competition since they acquired Neymar Imbaba so on and so forth. It's got to be one of the biggest wins in their history that they were able to come back and do this and I think you could see. That is very weird. Jj to to see an empty stadium. A goal scored and with no crowd reaction. Obviously because there's no one in the building to still see players like show such emotion like in some ways it's refreshing because it's like you think it only matters because it's a performance of accident of a crowd either that or the enthusiasm of a building. I think can like can care. There's a nurse to that. I think enthusiasm of sixty seventy thousand people has a rubbing off effect on the guys who's WHO's at the center of it but I don't know it felt very like high school sports to me. Like watching a guy score a huge goal with no one there but still like it means so much to him. I don't know felt very like as pure a moment as ps g can have. It almost felt like that. Yeah there was What's interesting is hearing their voices when the communication yeah I know. Also you hear when the ball is hit. You hear that noise that you haven't heard since you play you hear it every week and when you play yourself because there's no crowd there and then you hear the pros make the same sounds and also I was listening to a podcast said at the weekend. It was amazing to hear the back and forth between opposition players. The back and forth between teammates the cajoling the anger the jokes all the things that we miss out on because of the crowd noise and he was talking about Venison Intrum Lonzo. Yeah it was It was weird. I obviously because we're focusing on the game only highlights of this bought most of the match reports and from what I could see from the highlights. Like Dorman just didn't show off now on their funding site on you know when you talk to two people who watched them weaken we go talk to their fans. They were there for straightening You don't know what you're going to get from them. Necessarily I mean they can put on a performance in attacking performance. That absolutely wows you. And yet they are capable of being extremely flat They're capable of defensive lapses in a way that you feel. This team is teetering. It's just missing something that it doesn't have for it to be more consistent site. I don't know is that management coaching. But I'm this was a considering what happened in the first leg. This was a a big zero for them. Yeah and credit to PS. Gee It's not just about Dortmund capitulating We had said on Mondays. Podcast that these are the moments that you go out and you get Neymar. And if he's if he's worth it these are the moments where he has to show up. Well he did His first goal his movement to get to that header Maybe it was poor defending by. Ps G. but it's also Neymar just finding away to attack that ball it's perfect And it was huge for them to get that first goal And for him to be the one that did it. I think it just lifted the whole team Getting the second one on the stroke of half-time on kind of a a nifty sort of deflection Huge for them to take that into the locker room and then that was that was all they needed. I know there's been a lot of drama surrounding his birthday. And the usual controversies. That seemed to go with him injuries as well. But a FIEF tweeted it's twenty three combined goals and assists and fifteen appearances since the start of December. Well that's pretty good going considering he hasn't even been available for all the games boy we do. Forget we don't forget we do. It's never forget because it's because he's not on the field or or he's doing something off the field that's Kinda detracting from it but like when it's all said and done and he's out there playing and he's focused he still. I think he he still shows you. He's one of the best players in the world. I'm so curious where they go from here. we're designing implying that this competition does anything go from anywhere right now day one. It's weird I'm thinking about like. Hey if back come back come back. Come back to Andy Comeback. What does anything mean right now? I know don't do this. Chin-ups Sunshine Camman League's getting just read the ACC tournament have been suspended. It's this let's go. Let's go Let's see we continue now. Jj Let's just go. Let's go to Tottenham that'll that'll snapped me out of this funk Boy What a whimper. I mean you talk about zero from Dortmund and here's what I would say about it. I think we have to stop being surprised like I feel. Like every time Tottenham come out This season in big game surprised I feel like I get that that feeling like I feel like. I'm living groundhog day. After each one of these games. Oh my God it's another no show from spurs you know the manager literally three weeks ago. Said he's not surprised these he's telling everybody will be same result. Yeah And since we last spoke they even lost another attacking player to injury. Probably for the remainder of the season in Stephen Bergman I'm a little bit conflicted on Tottenham A because I actually like I said after the first like actually think rb Leipzig are really good I don't think it's a fluke. How well they're doing in this competition or how. Well they're doing in the Bundesliga. They're really good team And be I don't WANNA sound like whiny sore loser here but like injuries do matter. And I can't tell you the Tottenham win if bird vine and sun and Kane are healthy but I can also tell you that it matters that those players aren't there Davinson. Sanchez is hurt. That Moussa Sissoko is hurt That Ben Davies is hurt like that. You Sold Victor. One Yama and I don't even know what role he was going to continue playing so I almost don't include him but I know what you mean. We've barely spoken about his transfer. But you heard marina just deteriorated so much as a player partially because of injuries over the last twelve months So it's kind of a team that is like two things are happening at once. They're in a period of major transition And it's not going well as is often the case with teams in transition and they're also it is what it is like. They're ravaged by injuries right now and I think this is. This is the end product. You're seeing what that all looks like when it's all happening at once on throwing a lack of a computer coherent playing style to suit. The personnel has throwing The negativities the the CIG- The basically your star player your most expensive player being signalled for abuse in the media. Put that all together. That dripstone the weird thing about Tottenham Austat yesterday that like you think about Josie Marino coming into your squad as manager and what that typically means. It means okay. We're going to not be quite so attacking but we're going to load up defensively. And we're not going to concede goals. Jj in the Premier League. This is across all competitions so the status slightly but the point remains since Marino took over only one club has conceded more goals than spurs in that time. And that's Aston Villa. Like that is yeah so he's not even doing the things that he was good at before. Now here's my belief. Do I think this is the squad in transition that needs to be overhauled yes? Do I believe that this is the only way it could be? It has to be this. Bide everything about it from the optics of the football to the off can be no other way no. I don't believe that the only reason that I slightly disagree with you saying that is because this had started under Pocchettino I don't believe that this is just Josie Marino problem like this. The football being this bad is not just a Josie Marino problem. I can tell you I was watching him every single game. It was this. Maybe it was this not says maybe Andrew but you know in the press conference afterwards. He does the same thing he's been doing week after week. He's GonNa hang everyone else's players you think you think Bacelona can do X. Y. Without Messy Juarez utain Liverpool can do anthing without for menial manner except in the semi finals last year. Liverpool did do something without third key players. And Guess What the Club you're at right now did as well. They didn't throw the bloody towel and weeks beforehand and I really great point. I ain't wasn't on that field and he wasn't and I didn't get a chance to to to vent about this. As well but Tottenham fans who are defending Joseph Marino allowed Tottenham manager to three days before a derby against the team that their fans despise their. Load him to throw in the towel. You talking about Partido in no daylight Marino to throw in the towel three days before the Chelsea game right out your life sake. He could come on man. Come on making noises about playing Frank Lampard's Chelsea it's Andrew. Things can be bad. There is a way to deal with it. So you this. Paci no did the same against Arsenal Before the League Cup when he played a B Squadron and no not not not a beast. What did he say or did he not say in the week beforehand? Did Pacino ever said that? That's it. We're not GONNA win the remember his exact comment but he he talked about basically that competition is not what their goal is right. That's not the same thing. That's a priority thing. This is the literally saying we can't do anything in this game. I will accept injuries and on this transition period is a and that there are players who are going to have to be moved on and things need to change but this is this is not the guy to do it and this is not the way to do it yeah. I don't know if he when he took this job on 'cause he's not necessarily a guy that you point to is somebody who you would go to to oversee a rebuild. I think he's somebody that you go to to change things up on a squad that can win but like can't seem to get over the hump which has been Tottenham. They've been good for years now but they haven't gotten the hump they haven't gotten over the Hump and won a trophy. But like I. I don't know if he quite realized What Patino was realizing in that? Oh this is this is not a team that is ready to get over the hump. This is a team that got close to it. Miss Their chance and now they are on the other side and the weird thing is though we keep talking about how How it's over like this run is over but like I was going back and looking at the ages of the players on the team. They're not old. Like do you have a couple of El Dorados now over thirty but you know for tongue but like era dire is twenty eight Like I was going through the list. You know they're mostly guys who are like twenty six twenty seven and twenty eight. They're kind of in that spot right now where they should. They should be in their prime. I mean I just wonder if because Tottenham hadn't refreshed their squad over the past few years. The tread on those tires is comparable to that of a guy in their mid thirties. I Dunno some. I mean something's wrong whether it's injuries whether it's there's a danger. Jing whether it's the style it's probably look it's everything. I don't think you get to this point without it being a little bit of a lot of things right and there's also danger that we're on overkill Josie Marino. I mean he is just infecting every conversation about Spurs. I'm not. I'm not really talking about him right now I I. Can't you hate his guts? You have a personal thing against him. I'm hey don't do that. No don't do that come on. That'S THE PERSONNEL J. True the personal. What the Personal Grudge Josie Marino is based on what he does in his personal. So I'm reflecting here. Alone even among Tottenham fans there were the first day he was hired decided. This this is a horrible idea. And they were against him. Everything I said is being based on what we've seen so far utterances from his mouth and it's just I don't understand I like I said on Mondays podcast and this is why I feel as if we need to get off the subject. We can look in the mirror. You don't look at me if you talk about Marino. No it's me. Oh it is me. I don't I don't understand The targeting of players like this. I don't I don't get it last but not least here for the Champions League Atalanta Take Care of business against Valencia Eight four on aggregate unbelievable Joseph Illitch was incredible scored all four of Atalanta's goals in this game. And he's a he's a cult hero for me right now his. I looked at his stats in his record. It's not like he's ever been a huge enormous club. You know what I mean like a on. He's in the wind down of his career and he's just landed at Atlanta and doing all these amazing things he's kind of being out of state level for a while but as also being super talented and a Turkey to. He's probably having his best season in across all competitions. He's twenty nine games played. Twenty one goals nine assists Five goals in the Champions League fifteen goals in Syria. Well he had five goals in this tie against Valencia. And there's an amazing stat that accompanies that Illegit now becomes the first player not named messy or Rinaldo to score five or more goals in a Champions League knockout tie that's the group Aldo messy illegitimate like. Where's like left off ski or or like Van? Nestle royalties is just not the guy that I would guess. They reminds me of what happened in like USA. Ninety four wasn't it Oleg Salenko that scored like a Tony Goals for Russia against remember who it was and he ended up like sharing the Golden Boot with Romario? Someone you know is like it was this list of Brigham players. Baio remarried will only accelerate auto. Yeah this is. Another one of those games played in an empty stadium I seen it before and soccer still jarring To see what meaner Zouqi tweeted them. How weird it was. Because she was following the game Being an Italian football expert and I tweeted out our if the Messiah is empty. Is it even the Messiah? I mean the Messiah got this Mystique in the early two thousands for being this cauldron the away like you had to win your home leg because you weren't GonNa win there and is it even that does it. Is it that Katina football when there's a Web parishoners now. I guess you could say that. About a Lotta buildings I mean. Without an atmosphere it's just becomes brick and mortar. You're right But good for Atalanta. They advance or something they they advance. We don't know what they advanced to. We are in a weird time which you keep. I mean if I'm bad Marino you on Corona viruses. Just think one warrants it. Okay what to watch for what to watch. I don't know paint drying. Tvd's don't know what to watch for. Everyone I'm as of now. Just read the fixtures Williams because we don't know as of now in the English Premier League Saturday eleven. Am Manchester City versus Burnley? Asterix Saturday one thirty PM Sorry matches city Bernie asked versus Chelsea Sunday twelve thirty. Pm Tottenham Versus Manchester United on Monday four PM Everton versus Liverpool couple. Quick things before move off of it. should city lose and Liverpool win. Liverpool would win the title. Yes it could happen on Monday I'd be surprised if Manchester City lost at home to Burnley I'm very curious about Everton and Liverpool regardless just because at Goodison I almost want Manchester City to lose that game. Because I WANNA see the way. Everton treat that match at home against Liverpool. I really think it's like we've talked about. This couple is there. I mean could. Could they have a bigger game in this era? Then that one. Could you sound more like Ross from friends? First of all I think it was probably Chandler that you're thinking On his channel to simulate truly into American culture and I blow at a friend's reference and you just showed the world how Irish really our only God Yup Are you sure about the Matt's they're Andrew? Yes and don't ever question me all right And I also wanted to say that Like we were just talking about Tottenham a moment ago like the funny thing is. Let's say the Manchester City Uefa Ban is upheld and that fifth spot is up for grabs for a Champions League place Very quietly like I know Tottenham morale among fan base. They may as well be in the relegation zone right now but very quietly. This match is enormous for Spurs. Because here's the thing Josie Marino is probably gonNA continue to be the manager for next season and he's GonNa want a significant transfer budget because I don't know if you've been paying attention He wants some new players. On the squad if Tottenham don't qualify for the Champions League who get who's WHO's coming to this team right now by the way who you keeping his Harry Kane has said for for all the. He's one of our own that he's treated as and he'll always be at Tottenham Ledge matter. What happens but he made his point pretty clear when he said he will remain with Spurs as long as he feels like. There's an upward trajectory. Does anyone anyone with eyes. And a brain look at this team right now and see upward trajectory and there'll be an emboldened Manchester United with money round the corner so like suddenly like they need to pick themselves up quickly And I know I said before we need to stop. Being surprised like my expectation is that they will not win this game But if there is any sort of hope left in salvaging some kind of like future for this club To be to continue to be what they've been the past four or five seasons they gotTa Start Winning. And it's gotTa start now because this is a huge differential if they lose this game as opposed to winning it. They've only got one game. Left against the top six side after this that's against Leicester so they've got on paper. Winnable Games coming up but this is one that they absolutely desperately need So yeah pick yourself up spurs nation. It's it's still It's still a big game. It's still a big game. Jj HAVE MLS Here on what to watch for. Obviously these Games are not happening. The League has been suspended But I do want to quickly say that A quick little discussion on what happened in the cockpit. Aft Champions League up to this point that has also been suspended like we said earlier. NYC AFC losing. Just a in the first leg a total gut punch right at the end. Vargas right at the end and they looked set. They looked competitive in that game. And there is hope for for the away-leg but it's That's going to be. It's going to be very tough. Anita and Ronnie data is just having the most horrendous Dr to who is To his time as manager will they did advance to the quarterfinals hip at San Carlos? Andrew Okay And then also Atlanta United F C with a terrible start to their Quarterfinal in the CONCACAF Champions League Yeah. It's it's not looking good for them at all Obviously a game. That won't happen but I've a jolt I. I'm going to SHOEHORN IT IN AN INTER MIAMI versus La Galaxy. David Beckham faces. His former club won't be the first time Galaxy Fancy Beckham in another clubs colors saying how much time at La Means to him. That's very clever. No but yeah that game's been suspended Also I should mention Montreal With a a a really fun to watch in their CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinal Speaking of watches don't rate atty on the moon was the French. Twelve of whom did not go the way that they wanted. No we talked on Yama before. It's weird seeing him in a Montreal impact. Kid It's just a it's weird. How angry Canadians got up me for saying this was not the career trajectory when he left Celtic to end up in Montreal at twenty eight. What's wrong with Montreal America? Yes yeah so Tyrian rewatch a few thaw that my chasing at the hands of Athletico Madrid would have stopped my smugness. You are wrong friends. You are very wrong for frowned schadenfreude. What's the French for Schadenfreude who by the way So first of all They lost to Olympia who Went module and one bought at late in the second half impact had a penalty. Appeal turned away by referee. Underneath Escobedo. You brought the saw who originally pointed to the spot only to reverse his decision and give a corner kick after consultation with his assistant. Olympia has mailer. Nunez looked to commit a handball offence. On a headed effort by Montreal's Anthony Jackson Hamill and to see teary. Anri upset on the sideline about a handball. Not being called was just not you. Chefs cases are desperate at eleven. Every eight eleven years later. How do you like them? Apples teary or sorry. Excuse me I was going to sit in French palms. You're still bitter about it. No I'm actually not but I did think it was kind of I would be. It was kind of funny to see the parallels I and in fairness to onery to give him his credit he did not bring it up his post-match he said he said that was not the reason they lost to schoolboy defensive errors within reason. They lost that game. And I give on retort credit for that. I merely clutching at straws friends. Nah I'll hold the bitterness of the Panama. A non goal with me forever for the US. To not qualify. I I've given it up. It's over forever The the penalty decision. I don't know ultimately maybe I have to see it again. I feel like they arrived at the right call. I think My only thing is it just feels weird that the referee who standing right there and pointing to the spot would then defer to a guy who's like forty yards away in making in changing his mind on the decision at just feels strange to me. I mean we often talk about being Qaft by both teams and referee. So maybe this is an example of it Yeah I'm not. I'm not really sure about that. One to be honest with you. The moment of the game was known of what we've spoken about so far. It was Sapphire Tater school which was a volley from thirty five yards. And here's how it sounded badges. Tell you start a cutback billlion goals in America North American soccer last. Why you ask what you do to change it. Maybe do that all right. You can't go. You can't go around. Funny Tottenham Find God in touch with us and said Because I tweeted out the goal goal. By tater of a half volley from thirty five yards. Brilliant and he goes. You're not gonNA talk about one. Yam setting it up like it was a joke like we're now just literally nodded the ball onto that can't even count as an imagine. That probably does count as so. This is a thing now like you're you've now created a vendetta against this club against manager against their key signing like you know it was A. He was making a funny joke about when Yama. Because you've because it's a known thing that you have it in for no he's career no the guy who sent him. Just trying to squeeze as a tottenham trying to squeeze any joy out of any thing related taught it was more relating to you mocking where. Wanyama's career has taken him. No it had nothing to do with that. It was funny though because it was. That's going to go down as an assist as it should. He's literally just heading into the guy as we say not. All assists are created by the way Mailbag has gone into material. Mailbag will return next week. Yeah we're GONNA need that. I think yes we were not going to have a ton of content may not creative enough to. We're going to be leaning on mail back. Please keep the male short right. I feel like like when we say to people. Hey We have a our podcast tomorrow is going to be a mailbag special. So start sending them in. Now we're going to a full episode of Mailbag. Don't you feel like that's the podcasting equivalent of when you came into school as a kid and your teacher was like okay? We're GONNA WATCH A video today. Like that was their way of saying like. I just don't feel by being in the bar till eleven last night. Watch a video. I am hung over. You do whatever you need to have this history channel documentary about The War of eighteen twelve sure studied Gulf War. Watch it that you need to see it at four o'clock afraid Let's see let's. Let's do this red card. I hear I want to get this out of the way because I don't feel good about this and so I feel like if I go. I maybe I'm burying it and people will forget later on arts. The first thing they heard and they'll stop listening through out the door of the car and a the the rescue Ron. I'M GONNA I'm GONNA forge ahead. I don't feel good about this. Because the fan aspect of soccer is is maybe my favorite part of the game And the images that we saw like the love the celebration everything we saw from. Ps G and their supporters outside the park the prince's following Wednesday's win was no it was it was special. Honestly if you were somebody who was there that's that will hopefully be remembered by a special memory. I saw ESPN AFC's account tweet. A picture of the celebration with the caption. Psd celebrating with their fans is iconic and my my initial instinct was honestly to agree with that. The images their incredible. I mean look up the tweet. It's really really something. But then I saw a tweet from Leander Charlatans soccer columnist for Yahoo and Kinda smacked me back to reality when he responded to that tweet by saying no Actually it's stupid. The point of closing the stadium to fans was to avoid a large public gathering going out to celebrate with them will only encourage more of them to come out the next time so I saw that and I thought about it and I thought I don't want to agree with him because he's Kinda pouring cold water on coal soccer moment but I'm sorry anyway slice it. He's right There's currently a ban in France for gatherings For any gathering of over a thousand people as a way of trying to fend this off but for whatever reason the. Ps G alturas were granted a special exemption by the police. So they were not there. Legally that was granted for them to do that. I know we've been able to live our lives and we don't want to remain in a constant state of fear but the sentiment but like that sentiment is kind of for another day like we said like you're going to be inconvenienced right now and you're not gonna be able to do all the things that you WanNa do and it's all in the name of public health and as cool as the moment was that was not in the best interest of public health as people are trying to do everything in their power to curb the spread of this virus so like. I'm sorry I'm being that guy. This is such a Debbie. Downer moment that I'm kind of throwing at you on something. That looked cool. But leandra charlatans with his tweet. It was harsh the way he put it but he's not wrong. Those those images that we saw yesterday from outside of that stadium three thousand people gathering to celebrate that with the team. It was cool but it probably shouldn't have probably but those people are going to be there one way or the other whether the police granted them a permit or not they were going. That was it so all right bold it does have to. I don't have to agree with it though. No you don't definitely not OK. People legal talk incoming. I want everyone just to bear with me. How long is this? Here we go. Us Soccer Federation's filings emerged at the start of the week from the lawsuit over equal pay brought by the US women's national teams within the filings. Where some hugely controversial arguments that is Julie? Foudy described on the call of the US women's game against Japan broadcast as one of the tent poles of the USF argument against equal pay so within the filings are following as outlined by Meglena in in the Atlantic who is covering this as better than anyone in the most recent document. Us Soccer attorneys argued that the ability levels between the men's national team on the Women's national team are fundamentally different that the overall soccer playing ability for the men's national team is materially influenced by the level of certain physical attributes such as speed and strength required for the job. The point is that the job of men's national team players competing against senior. Men's national teams requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength. Then does the job of women's national team players competing against senior women's national teams the federations attorneys also note that there is evidence that men's national team players face tougher competition even on a relative basis than the women's national team which makes sense on some level as the men are ranked twenty first in the world according to whereas the women are number one overall in the respective rankings while US soccer argues that this is an additional basis to deny the players motion it is also combination condemnation of their success an addition to federation pushes back against equal responsibilities as part of equal work between the two teams. They stay at that. The women only participate in one revenue generating tournament every four years. That's the fief a women's World Cup whereas the men's national team players have responsibility for competing in multiple soccer tournaments with the potential for generating a total of more than forty million dollars in prize money for US Soccer. Every four years television ratings were also tied to the concept of equal responsibilities though it is unclear how that will be listed in the job description of either. A men's national team are win women's national team player beyond similar tasks of media appearances and gain promotion. Finally the Federation Attorney Staff that working conditions also apply to the case and the main quote routinely play matches important World Cup qualifiers in particular throat Mexico Central America and the Caribbean opposing. Fan Hostility encountered in these men's national team road environments especially in Mexico and Central America is unmatched by anything. The women face while trying to qualify for an important tournament. This also extends to friendly's in the Fed in the federation's argument. Okay so let me go to. Mina kimes right now. Who breaks down the problems with all that was a good argument to make Us Soccer is trying to argue here. That the women do not deserve equal pay because they don't do equal work. They're contending that the men have more difficult jobs. This is problematic for a couple of reasons. One if you follow that logic to its natural conclusion you're basically saying women should never deserve equal pay for physical labored which I think we can. All agree is a problem to the other issue with the size and strength and speed thing. We know that's true. Everyone knows it. We don't have to deny it. Everybody knows if the US women play the US men they would be at a physical advantage but they do not play the US and they play they play other women and they dominate them. That's where the legal argument falls apart in the real world in this strikes me as incredibly short sta short sighted and catastrophically down for you a soccer because Wallace's argument that might win in court. It's one that's going to hot them in the future. Generations will not look kindly this sort of that last point she makes. They're very interesting because I don't know what it is that. Us Soccer Federation cares more about like she says this. May Win them. The argument in court. Well that may be it like. They may not care about the optics of their argument now. Carlos Cordeiro came out and apologized. Which Meghan REPEA- knows responded to an says that she doesn't buy it a budweiser Are One of the sponsors who chimed in saying they're disappointed in what was said In the filings by US soccer's attorneys also span made an excellent point. And this is the key point to me You don't pump as much Money Resources Energy time into women's soccer and yet on the revenue side. You want it to come. You say it has to. It can't compete with the men's will of course not you haven't given at the time the money or the care to do that. She she cited the example of Tennis. Where women's tennis was promoted was given equal. Tv standing as the men's game. That's the one thing I always struck me about tennis. Yeah it's always been held up as as as equal and they put. They promoted it. They put money into it. They as much as they could. Equally comparison equalised the pianist. And it flourished you know it's like me you having a plant and your plant is just amazing and you give it all the water and older nourishment needs in an at flowers open. It looks amazing. And you compare it with mine in a competition which has been given none of those things in his a weedy small liars plant. You know it's just an unfair basis for argument and by the way nobody looks at Megan routine or Carolina. Lloyd and says they can't sprint like Christian Pulisic. They're they're not as they're not as that they don't tackle as tough as As Michael Bradley so what who was comparing them. They don't play their two different realms and it is right about another thing to like. Okay you may win the court battle but this is extraordinarily bad. Pr Around a team right. Now that this country is in love with I will get turned. It's it's almost like okay. You've taken this step to prop your men's team up above your women's team but in the process because of how beloved the women's team is you have vilified your men's team like is there any financial downfall from from taking that route. I guess we'll see now. You're you're seeing men's players releasing statements essentially voicing their support like I saw DaMarcus Beasley just released a lengthy statement voicing his support for the women's fight for equal pay. A lot of players have done. It's an unfair and they almost have to. They have to know to To defend I suppose I mean they just come across really badly in this and There it's unfortunate they've been dragged into the mix of this. Yeah this comparison that US soccer's using as as Julie. Foudy said one of their tent Poles. I'll of the of the debate against are not the debate the lawsuit that has been taken by the women But I have more not. Oh you do okay. Well caught offsides man of the match. While we're on if you want to just go right. You talked about the backlash. Backlash has already begun. So my women of the match are the women's national team and it's because of what they did on the field. Let me let me deal with that part. I I guess. They put in a performance of huge amounts of skill. Two of the finest goals. I've seen look at some of the goals we've seen in the last ten days the brilliant free kick from Meghan Regino up over the wall into the top corner and the brilliant Shikha from your dialing your favorite Kristen price honest question. Has she ever scored ever scored a boring goal are every single? One of her goals. Incredible would you say the goals of a pretty high level of skill to chip the keeper from twenty yards? I looked pretty skillful. Not Not not to mention what she did against England that almost one torch out of her feet on smashes it home own believable performance day they put in and you can't take it away of the context that was worrying around in their minds before the game in protest at the comments emerge from the filings. They wore their training tops. Back to front so you could only see the four stars a not. The federation quiet crest which came. I think what an amazing move. You talked about the backlash. There's a t shirt that I'm sure selling like hotcakes. Right now off the inverted crest of the of the embroidered crests. That's inside out that they wore with just four stars on the outline of the shield. The backlash is already begun here. And I can't believe the tact that you the. Us Soccer Federation has taken against these amazing women. They are amazing because guess what they're fighting. A campaign for equal rights was scoring some of the best schools. You'll see and winning games. And that's what they do they win. You can hit their hairstyles. You can hit their demeanor. You can hit their politics if you want although. I'm not sure how you coat because but when it comes down to it. These women are winning. They're doing the job. They're just unbelievable. Yep Awesome let's see. Jj My medal match. I went with any fail harbor one of the more I think. One of the more underrated -Ly Great American soccer careers has come to an end. I think the word I used pre pod was criminally underused from two thousand seven to two thousand seventeen. He made forty four appearances for the US. Men's national team. He was a member of the two thousand ten World Cup squad and the two thousand eight Olympic squad only score two goals for the US but one of them was. I gotta say one of the more one of the most memorable. Us goals scored in the last twenty. Years is in the Gold Cup against Mexico with the score tied in the seventy third minute. Wednesday lower divisions of England. Seventy two. And your the cool thing about his career that it's not necessarily one. That was destined to happen. He so he was born in. Brazil moved to southern California and had to walk on to the US Ucla College team. Like he's not some guy who came from like just like. Oh let me just go off to Europe and like star plan to h sixteen like he he went to college had to walk on and then after two years at UCLA has talent was shining through any actually left And signed with Hamburg in the Bundesliga He also made ten primarily appearance. Darby County Great. Mls Player for New England L. AFC Colorado but most notably Sporting Kansas City. He actually joined us Last was it last year. Two years As he was awesome to talk to what a what a good dude he I think he's going to be very interested in voice in. Us Soccer Komo going forward. I hope he is You said that Your Klinsmann really. That was guy on his career international career. Yeah I don't know why I don't know what it was about his game He was a creative number. Ten style player tacking attacking midfielder forward player. That code linked to play could score. Goals could set other people up. After he posted his statement on twitter that he was retiring other players kind of came from out of the woodwork to share their praise Nat wrote congratulations on a great career. Benny love the way. You played the game best wishes on the next step. Bud Jimmy Conrad Road. Quite possibly the best passer of the ball. I have ever played with still. Don't think you get the credit you deserve. In this regard Josie altidore wrote. He came on for Spain and boss it when they were unreal class player and person some amazing memories together all the best in the future. Benny was not that famous. Confederations Cup game. So like how so Wayne reared that so it was two years later before cleansing up the job. Right because that can vary. That was oh nine. He was on the two thousand ten team. And Bob Rally was out shortly after that and Clinton came into two careers that I kind of look at almost side by side. are his and Sasha questions like two players that I really held in such high regard that you always Kinda of that for whatever reason. They're they're national team. Careers were sort of derailed. While they're club careers continued to thrive. And you never quite understood why class they both came back into the fold but it was sort of a little too late. Oh was and they never really got a proper run but yeah great player Like I said one of of all the MLS players we've had on. He was probably one of the most fun we spoke into so I wanted to make sure he got some love on this on this podcast today. What pod we did it. I'm glad it's it's this long this me he this involved because we don't know what's GonNa Happen. Yeah we're GONNA continue to do the show of course We'll do it every week Even if we have to play games ourselves one V one with Andrew. You know people. I've been playing with I I. It was so nice out over the weekend Jack and I went outside playing. He was. He's four years old. He was sensational yet. Where do you take from now from you? Sure it is. It's not I'd try to wonder. How do I harness Andrews Skill? Andrew's wife actually knows her way around a soccer ball and played in high school. And you can tell. Adra did not and you can tell. I mean when we played that one day I thought I owned her out on the wing. You couldn't get past me because if you're meaty thighs they're big flat. Pack your big flabby legs trip and are up. There was no skill in your game. Look if you want to show cards so cards. But I didn't see any that day. Me and her were the dominant players that day. You play for a living okay. You're better than all of us. Haven't touched a soccer ball and he never played for living a borderline pro. And you Wanna I against peons and yourself up like messy no. I'm a DP average player. That just made you look like a fool. That's that's it. I'm now going to train. I'm GonNa Start Training. Threatened isn't a floor with the time you've got the Roy Keane play one on one like is there any sort of game that we comply like in basketball would take one on one crossbar challenge. That could be done done. Don got on a train and I believe that I will get. You'RE GONNA train crossbar challenge. Yeah I'M GONNA go outside with a ball rain or shine snow. Whatever and I'm just I'm GonNa like you promise now and we'll do this. We'll record it. We put it up That could be fun. Okay okay. Let's do it. Oh God that is noncommittal. Let's do it all right but you see like what am I going to train? You know. I've got kids until you have a child until you have a child until you have a child you do not understand okay. Yeah that's you all over okay. Guy States if yeah keep keep Cdc DOT ORG and Look after each other yes. Yeah absolutely and keep in touch with us because I'll tell you what we got. A big MAILBAG special coming around the bend. This this glad that we did this honestly. This was important and I guess I'll see next week. All right man take care you to take your phone by listening to caught. Off-side soccer podcast.

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Chelsea To Wembley After FA Cup Quarterfinal Win

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Chelsea To Wembley After FA Cup Quarterfinal Win

"Welcome everybody to the official chelsea. Podcast chelsea miked up. We will recap a dull affair at san for bridge but you also get two goals off to. The semis drew manchester city. Kind of a tough draw. We'll talk about it. Aimal recap the game against sheffield united all that and more on this episode of chelsea mike dump vamanos in looser. Well i said it was a dull affair in the intro chris. It wasn't dull. There were some exciting moments. Some nervy moments to just wasn't chelsea's best performance this was one of the flatter performances from chelsea under thomas to coal. And that's a sign of a good team by the way not putting your best effort and still coming away with multiple victory. Two nil the final mcgoldrick. He burned up all that great. Cavalry had one absolute sitter of an opportunity that he missed so kappa gets a clean sheet. What does this ten clean sheets. Edible possible twelve or thirteen. It's it's remarkable. Yeah i'm gonna go to his Transfer mark page to confirm. But yeah i mean. Kevin is didn't have a ton to do but he did make a couple of saves. And that mcgoldrick mrs kind of what. You'll remember the game for actually i. I give real credit to chef united. I kind of ruled them out as competitors for this game but i twenty minutes there pressing was really intense may be made a really difficult for chelsea to play and thomas to match kind of in his press conference was saying that. Look after it go. There was a mental bernau. This is the fourteenth game that he's managed already. And you think oh. What a short space of time he's managed in. They're trying to figure out which players are. Going on. International break cirkovic protocols. I think they just kind of arrived at this game running out of gas hoping that they can get over the line in this one maybe not necessarily for brilliant performance but get over line win the game gets to the semi final and then we'll regroup after the break and that's basically what they did. Yeah they got over the line and there were some bright spots look kim's es a totally different player after getting on the scoresheet you kinda hoping what happens him adams christian pulisic who by the way put in a man of the match performance. Despite not getting on the scoresheet he had that one highlight reel dribble in the box. Where he takes on three defenders. It's just beautiful and you. It's moments like that. He can provide an aspect to this chelsea attack. That no one else really has team has obviously the afterburners on him. He has the speed but that ability to create something out of nothing and dribble and traffic and get in the box and look dude. Got wacked around that entire game. I'm sure he was feeling pretty. pretty bruised up after it. Not the kind of game you want him going into international duty with if you're a men's national team supporter because i'm sure he was feeling that for a little bit but that is a skill set that really. I think only he has on this team. Something that chelsea carved out of their identity out of an hazard was here and it's not a fair comparison. It's not even viable comparison quite actually but when you see that you can't help but harken back to the days of in his art in that blue shirt making those moves because that was the last player that had that capability as chelsea player and it's those moments brilliant said remind you if you're trying to write off this player don't and he puts in of the match performance as well to boot chris y- dribbles and take on. That's what christian pulisic is excellent at and it's kind of amazing because like as you said that's what he is was good at but when it's not going well forum those gerbils and take on's end up in the ball being dispossessed and actually thought i twenty thirty minutes of the game. It looked like he was trending in that direction or a few times where the ball was taken off him. But then after that one bit of skill in the boxer you mention which was just extraordinarily. He's taken on three guys and it's just as little subtle movement to get the ball away from that vendor and then cut inside and ends up shooting towards air rams produces a good safe to be fair and then he has the absolute sitter in the second half which thomas to actually kind of described as a turning point right like that's a change need to be putting away so we can put this game to bed and crusoe victory. But then there's a lot of suffering you you you give up a lot of chances after that and you hang on for the victory with with getting that goal and extra time but publicity just in terms of bright inspiration moments in might not have resulted in a goal but it gives you a good deal of confidence that maybe this is a player feature in the sidebar often in american football. They have this saying that. So and so has a healthy amount of interceptions for a quarterback. And i kind of you. A player being dispossessed. That way obviously you have these vacuums of players that don't really create that they get possessed. It's not a good player but christian is going to get dispossessed a bit more not making excuses because he's taking a bit more chances and if we saw what was happening particularly during the lampard era you needed him to get in two places and spots where he might be dispossessed because no one else was showing that instinct to attack now so with the defense being what it is and our incredible ability to limit counter attacks. I can understand probably being a bit more conservative. and not wanting your players to get dispossessed. I mean who does. But i still think it's about a healthy level. When it comes to christian pulisic so long as has an attacking mindset that he displayed really during project restored. That's a player that we hope would be. The consistent version of christian pulisic hasn't quite been there during what's been confusing is that this is his most healthy spell as a professional footballer but it requires a run of games right. I think one of the things that you're seeing is that what christian pulisic does hard right so when he is chelsea's best player in the post restart period. He's doing a lot of things where he's weaving through two defenders and the ball just seems like it's stuck to its foot but when it's not and you try those things you're giving the ball away but as you as you mentioned that that desire to try things and create havoc in the opposition defence. That really is what you need. More out of right. I don't think there's enough of that really chelsea attack when he's not in the team so if he can have a run a games where he feels confident is putting together these kinds of performances where he develops that confidence and that ball does feel stuck to its foot. That's when you get the best attacker in this chelsea side christian pulisic back and so it really. I hope in the international brave. He can feel some of that. You're playing in jamaica. You're pulling its northern ireland hopefully against weaker opposition. He's able to kind of build up some confidence when he comes back to chelsea he. Is that player again because that player is brings a dynamic as you mentioned that no other chelsea player brings but it needs to kind of come with some flow in a run of games. Maybe this is the start of a thing with christian pulisic where he's a later end of the season type of player. There are some parallels here between this season and last season last season he was getting used to a new league a new team new tactics this year without frank lampard being the manager throughout. I think maybe you can blame some of the dispossessions that he's had under thomas colin or not exactly knowing where some of his teammates are going to be being a little unsure of himself in the attack. And that's Should get better with time. So this might be the beginning of a christian. Pulisic that can be a match-winning christian pulisic again for this club and it couldn't be happening at a better time for chelsea f c massive for the club to just keep the winning ways thomas to cool hasn't been defeated as chelsea manager. That is wild. Wild chelsea haven't lost here and the other takeaways from this game other than it seems like a totally different player. Now that he has confidence and i want him to go for goal more he has a real special quality. Some of those goals. I i know the first one wasn't exactly pretty any kind of struggled with that at the beginning of the season that you should have done better with stuff but that was a real quality finish against sheffield united. He has a special boot. The moroccan magician. Does i like to see them. Go for gold more. Yeah he's got that ability to cut inside and the same way that you can shape a ball for across you can shape a shot into the top left corner right. I'm kinda waiting for one of those to come off where cuts inside and it's just a perfectly bent ball into the top corner so he he's definitely one that i agree Stood out just from a defensive point of view. I thought it was interesting. That in order to give us billy arrest christianson to the right of the back three and had zuma anchor the middle and just general cushion continuing to play. Well came off because he had an illness that stopped him from playing against. Let go but another clean sheet and doesn't really seem to matter who's in there although giveaway a few more chances maybe you were expecting to but for me. I think every time you see that zero on the board that's why chelsea can play poorly knee tack or have moments where they're suffering a little bit and you still are confident they're going to grind out the result that's a kind of very customarily chelsea thing from when they first rose to prominence in the mid two thousands wasn't always pretty but they kept clean sheets and they won matches and so i think the fact that chelsea are getting back to that identity must give the fans a real sense of positivity. I love that. Take away that you took from the lineup. I had a couple takeaways from the lineup number. One there were two of them which was very confusing. I was trying to go wigley. What oh yes. They announced they announced. Wow this is an aggressive. Really going forward again sheffield. That's a strong very odd and then pull a sick. I'm like suppose going to be a wingback. And then the the next lineup comes up and you see the difference but The christianson thing we were sort of theorizing yoga silva and positional battle. Right now because christians playing so well the illness make you forget how well christianson was playing. But then he comes back plan. A new position does equally. Well i think you could see tiago silva and andreas christianson. Both in the starting eleven post international break here four chelsea and it was cool to see thomas toy with that you can understand why he wants tiago silva as at main central defender along that back line to be fair. You give them the credit that he's earned throughout his career as good as christianson has been there. If christianson can prove to be competent at right-center back will make that his position and pairing of tiago silva and christiansen back in cooking the way that they are right now. It's going to be even harder to score on chelsea if you can imagine that. And i imagine posted international break is what thomas ducal has been targeting for ti silva because have been very careful with him and his injury and they do catch a little bit of a break. In that south. America are not doing world cup qualifiers during this international brave because of the covid rules. You can't quarantine in south. America for seven days and then play to international fixtures and then come back in quarantine after that so in the end kumble cancer that world cup qualifier. So there's no chance of silva getting called in. So i imagine you know with everyone mostly out on international duty. He's the one who kinda stays behind to really work on. His fitness and thomas kuhn kind of work with his three players are. That aren't an international team. Right now. build up their fitness that tiago silva can come back out of the break in return into that back three. I also be curious if maybe cursing and play the left of the back. Three s belleek wet Playing on the right. You have so many options right now and it's interesting because we talked about kurds zuma being someone who might not figure into kohl's plans but he's getting some starts and he doesn't look out of place it doesn't look. I thought he was only in a back four boat. He can play in the back three as well. Yeah the system seems became results. No matter who's back our heck look at the players that have turned around this chelsea defense. It's the same players plenty. People were complaining about prior to a bunch of message boards. Let's turn our attention to the draw. Chelsea had very good luck in the champions league draw make sure to go through our archives and check out the emergency pod that we did sort of celebrating the fact that tells he had a very good draw for the champions league leicester and southampton available in the pot but so as manchester city and chelsea and chelsea draws manchester city. Can't really complain coming on the heels of That favourable draw in the champions league. You're going to have to be man city at some point to win this cup right. Yes i might as well get it out of the way chelsea. Draw manchester team back to back years in the semi finals last year. Put up one of the better performances on the frank lampard era against manchester united in the wembley semi-final to get to the finals where they inevitably lost to arsenal. Things might have been different. If christian pulisic dozen pulled up lame in that game. But i value this competition. You're in it. you might as well win it. It's a nice story to tell and might remind you that in two thousand twelve chelsea. Hattie lackluster premier league. Season wouldn't have even made it into the champions league. Had they not introduced a new rule that said reigning champions league champion teams could actually qualify for the very next year so chelsea actually won a double that year the fa cup and the champions league both things very much in play if you want to hearken back to twenty twelve and see if there are any similarities yet another one chelsea football club and with this draw with manchester city. It is interesting because you'd have to think that city you're gonna drop one of these competitions at their in right so in the last month and a half two months of the season though come back from the international break and they'll still be in the champions league they're probably gonna win the primarily. Almost definitely gonna win the primarily. Then they play borussia dortmund and the winner of bio munich. Psg in the champions league in the care about cup final they played tottenham hotspur and then they play chelsea in the semi final and the winner of lesser in southampton. The winner of this match plays the winner of that match in the final. I can't see them winning all the competitions. I i really can't and you might catch man city at a time. When maybe they're progressing to a champion's league semifinal and the fa cup isn't as much of a priority pep takes every competition seriously but at some point these games stack significance on top of each other. So maybe you catch manson an day and as imperious as they had been for you know winning twenty matches in a row. They've showed a few vulnerabilities even when they've won. You know they. The loss of manchester united but the recent performances haven't been sensational against everton. There were pretty dragged for eighty minutes before you arrive there. But i think chelsea can definitely rely on their defensive strength to maybe keep city at bay a little bit and you hope from attacking standpoint that for them it's an off day and chelsea can convert the chances that you'll get which might be a relative scarcity in the semi final and given the rotation that we can expect in that game barring any injuries. Us on us crime against stephan in that game potentially zach. Stephan remains unbeaten. As the manchester city goalkeeper started ten matches and these one all of them so it would be interesting if pelagic can can get the better of his national team teammate. That's impressive. I didn't know that. About zach all right. We have a real good interview here with sam. Page is joined us on the pod several times over great insight into what's going on at the academy and how that bridges the first team squad so made numerous appearances on our show at this point. He's family so we really enjoyed our time with sam. We hope you enjoy the interview coming up. Next introduce puffing played the most advanced training up repeatable would and used by the chelsea built with innovative truck intent on featuring multiple lawsuit from some of football's biggest stars offering wall cross clinton allies poku coach. So the come to play. You want to start trading for free download on the app store now at club like chelsea. You've been there for a long time and you've seen a lot of managers come and go. Sometimes managers come and go multiple times and for those here in america that don't have the deeper understanding of how the academy system works. How much direction do you take from the managers or do you as someone in charge of the academy. Come up with philosophy that can remain consists in over the years as players in this academy go through different clubs with things in different ways And the way we have gone about of the last few years he's we haven't set in a program which we deliver to our academy play which essentially is trying to prepare players for supply senior football in in anywhere between eight to ten years tong. So what we've been really fortunate to do Over the course of the time that i've been there is would have the best bitch really from all of the different manages of common goldman embedded from playing philosophies and essentially led by neil off the head of youth development. What we do is we re write. All technical program will kind of review. All set in coop. Program have read sousa three years. Paul that what we do. Is we tight. The playing philosophy from the current all previous manager got bits of that really worked for all players because essentially outside with trying to prepare. Those plays for eight to ten years. Time on most likely at different. I see manager anyway. So what we need to. We need to make them really tactically adaptable and we need to expose them to a broad range of different playing styles playing principles. We do that by constantly. Reviewing and updating. Aw what we playing principles and those of been through many rations over the time that i've been there Right the way through from a guest as i influence and a big focus on transition right the way through to i suppose some of the current trends. We're seeing in the primarily now. Football's changed a lot since josie was first with chelsea in your biannual reviews. What's the single biggest difference. Nowadays when you first started at in terms of what you're teaching the youth. I suppose when when i first started we were probably one of few teams. That would play that kind of four three three formation. And you know we felt at the time that was really beneficial for the overall development of our players so as soon as they hit eleven aside they would play that kind of one door to money me feel about numbers henry with changed that we would some sun by one to midfield and essentially it would it would breeds awards that con of possession by style. Which at that time was something which really only the biggest teams really really kind of played and played effectively. Now obviously you see all teams playing a much more kind of possession based style at times but then also now seeing this. I guess these kind of era of counter attacking and counter pressing which has become really prevalent across lots of those different teams. Equally across teams are doing really well in the primarily. He seems that the con against the premier league and an ultra style and uncon- dot com of us boast progress against those midtable in european places. Different plane stalls. So i think that's been really interesting transition. I've seen over. That time is coming from a mortar rextall to a possession by stall so almost now we really need the bowl or the time stodden a knox. That's been fascinating for us to try and encourage all players to understand the sometimes you do need the bowl but equally. It's about what you do when you don't have the ball and then as soon as you get the poll. What's the thing that you need to do in the group. I work with the under eleven's and twelve where we really trying to focusing on a suppose playing paul the bigger team this notion all. What can you do feel teammates. When you get the what do we want to do. Is it same as a really a really important aspect on kind of a more global level. We're talking about it in the context of chelsea managers. How much are trends in the game. For example a lot of teams try and play out from the back now way more than probably in twenty years ago. Would you start to see that in academy football first and then it made its way into senior teams or dislike pets. Barcelona two thousand eight exploded. Know everyone wants to play from the back at youth level. Yeah again in. That vast been really interesting evolution. I think is the going back to when we we kinda. I came up with all plan principles. I wrote saw technical program and we were fortunate to kinda lead. The way i think in terms of the way the more national picture of academy football looks in england we will probably want to the first teams to really talk to our players about playing out in and we'll talk about that all pledge from a really really young age we would try answer a guests make them feel comfortable about transition. You know that. Come from might be a grassroots same mcconnell recreational level eight come from just playing school football where you it was always get the ball forward. Get the ball forward to probably the best players probably striker. He's probably gonna drove across three and school and actually what we were trying to encourage them to. Actually we're gonna play through the thirds we're gonna use of players and actually geno walk as defender whether it's a central defender. You're going to have to be really good on the ball. We will probably one of the first academies. i think that that we're doing that consistently now. You seem like cyprus global trend of all teams now academy level doing. I think he's quite refreshing to be honest with you. Because you know we we've seen this spos- some would argue more. Pure style of football Is more aesthetically pleasing but still funny to listen sir common sizes and pundits and question it when when it happens and when the inevitable eras happen i mean fascinates to see how all young players can deal with and do deal with it now energy so accustomed to it. Thought you know sometimes leads the mistakes and that's just the nature of Particular stall sam skew about an academy product. That's come on. Recently with the i team seemingly out of the blue really working hard and making a real positive impact in the squad and that's entrees christianson. We had pat nevin on recently on the podcast and he said on actually at that age where you really see a huge development. It's sort of counterintuitive. Because i know all the top clubs are going youth youth youth. There's almost like a lack of patience with just a twenty one year. Old when someone in their mid twenties like andrei is you really put a big investment in that player. Why is it different for defenders. Why do they actually season on time. Line that's more consistent with what we saw in the nineties and early two thousands addresses a really interesting character because he when he saw on for us he was ways a very mature player. Even as a you know a young player playing remember playing in the in the faa's cut working with him when he you know he he. I came over and You know he just had that level of maturity. I think composure. Very calm in possession. And i think really you know the so apply that mike's the guy look easy and it's brilliant to see him performing so well it's brilliant to see. I think him showing that composure. And again it goes back to what we were talking about the fact that players of the but needs to be able to show that columnist that composure song peo- stay on the ball we talk about all young plazas defended. Sometimes you might need to stay on the ball be patient and feel players just the extra couple of seconds to get into that right spice to just pull away from that player andrea seems to be able to recognize when he needs to stay on the board. He needs to play a quick and and vice to stop that level of calmness and composure. And that seems to just kind of increased over over the years at he's been through some ups and downs as well. I think that's been a a really fascinating aspects. His journey is he's been on loan journey on undo. Come in and he's been in that same by guess that probably showed some of the Mental skills are psychological. Cats sticks that we discussed before. And how important they all that he's overcome. Those is fantastic to see him performance so it makes sense because players like entrees and even kurt zuma who really fit a prototypical style when they were coming up the game evolved when they were supposed to be making first team contributions and now they have to reshape themselves as footballers. How much more difficult is that. After you crack the first team as opposed to the developmental stages assistant. Yeah i i mean i think the key thing there is the value that we place on the loan system and the lone journey that those players go on and when they go on that journey they get an opportunity to be exposed to to so many different styles of coach of coaching of playing style of opponent. And i think that's absolutely massive part of that journey and and we definitely consider that to be a big part of the academy journey overseas. You were discussing here. Players that join us relatively late in the system but when we talk while younger players would definitely envisaging them having to use that loan segment of their academy journey to really maximize their ability to overcome some of those difficulties and to learn that different style because football is evolving so so fast and we try and speed up their appreciation of evolution by going connor throwing in those different environments for which you know inevitably boasts succeed have learned to cope in those different environments thrive comeback in. They're able to deal with. Maybe a changing manager a changing playing stall club. Wanna talk about something that we mentioned the beginning which was defending the front and how much that has evolved particularly under the current manager. Thomas tickle when you're teaching those kinds of skills would you say are the two most important things beyond just hard work effort would are the important bits of being a good counter presser or presser. Generally interesting is we. We discussed a lot. One of playing principles is to have a clear pricing structure. Jade's about having a preference for a high press. You know the age group again. What evidence well you know. We did a session. Muslim got really focusing on it. And actually what we did. We showed some of all adds price in the trading session a few video clips of mason. What be awesome series. Go you know. What do you notice about the way he makes him such an excellent presser as we go into the session that connects day. What we're asking them is okay. What what'd you know about when he presses or the triggers that help insert sent out identify the riots slimes press so we'll muslim economists set to level you know that recognition of what actually is a a slightly miss hit. Pause is a little bit. White of the policies isn't quite for the opponent is about to receive. Its then you kinda pounce jump on that one is it lucky is gonna miss. Control is actually that he player hasn't scans the opponent hasn't scans to your mind. You might come on the blindside those talker things and the players were picking up and it's really refunds now states. Hey them having watched those video clips of mason and be able to talk to us about and then we go and put it on in apprentice. Where they're where they sort triggering those type of those king skills which help masons to be a really good preston physical things. Well you know people talk about Mason you know the kind of quickness over that short distance so is a mental thing is a physical thing in terms of speed and wednesday. But also then. It's the the effectiveness of using your body the technique of the press as well when you made wrought tackle what possible years to kind of make not sakamoto those things and absent massive as paul program in recent years a legitimate path from the academy to the i team has opened up at high and i understand the i team footballers have a loaded schedule. But i'm curious how many of those academy products have pushed all the way through. Put back what they got out of the academy and tried to teach some of the youth and come by and just show that. Hey by merely being here you know that you can make it. You see me wearing the same training jacket you do. And then let me on top of that import some knowledge. How much of are you seeing that at the academy level. Yeah i mean at the moment. Way a little bit restrictions by the kobe situation so that there's probably less contacts between all different groups of people that train a cobham training facility at different times so one of the ways around that we recently returned to training. You know not so long ago. Because obviously we had a situation in england where there was another lockdown and we weren't able to try and so we will fully online but we recently came back and we were really excited as part of all gonna welcome back presentation that you zoom with all of all players and parents say look while combat was thought next week etc etc mason produced a video for us which was a lovely video. Just say look you know. he's really. He spent time looking. All of our online activities applies of dumb conway. They've done in their online virtual learning environments. You know he. He's been so impressed with what they've been doing. So proud of the world at put in An econ wait to see the backer of carbon ready soon. And i just think that's a really nice touch of how we're trying to build this kind of expose. This connection between the academy. In the i team is amazing and these kind of one club. A taught environment that we're having really starting to see. I guess those players really embodying. And i think it's just really nice is. The players came in that first training session. They you overhear them so nice always brilliant fantastic and he just enthusing them and i think it's a it's great that we you know we. We certainly have that now. From the recent post. I guess and seeing some of all adds playing on the first thing. It's got to be a delight for you especially because you saw mason when he was one of those little kids saying oh i can't believe so and so is talking to us now. He's paying it back. It's really cool to see sam. It's always a delight catching up with you gives our listeners really great insight and just how this chelsea culture is built from the academy on down always enjoy our time with. You can't wait to speak with you again soon. Get the latest chelsea news straight to your phone. Download the pit. Stand the official chelsea all right. We hope that you find our next guest very interesting. There's a really cool project going on right now on. All of chelsea social media handles and of course the us social media handle that. We always encourage you to follow at chelsea. F c in usa is chelsea f c five boroughs project. Mel d. cole is a world renowned photographer and he worked with the club on this very cool project. And we want you to check it out. We're going to have mel d cole. On next and he's going to tell us all about it really neat to have mel d cole. Talk to us about this. Really interesting project that he worked with chelsea to explore the five boroughs of new york and introduce some stories of some chelsea supporters. Along the way mel. Thank you so much for joining us here on chelsea miked up a number one. How did this come to be melody. Coal working with chelsea c a long time. Take a long time but finally broke through and got my seat at the table for say yeah just networking basically a herb from fc. Harlem has been a a major player in how this went down. There's adam who actually works at chelsea. Yeah not you know hit in a lot of things transpired for me being known for being this hip hop photographer for the last twenty years and then i started my own agency called jesse the i only black photo agency dedicated to telling black soccer stories in the world so When a kobe hit i Started shooting black lives matter stuff in a lot of people started to take notice. Oh linked in was a big component in adam from from chelsea. Put out there like. Oh look at mel's work. It's amazing next. You know agency company and the next thing you know you producing directed in hosting and photographing five different people from five boroughs and we clever altogether. We call the chelsea's five boroughs in. It's amazing. I can't wait for everyone to watch it. Did i answer the question. You well there. Yeah there's certainly a lot to chew on in. Were certainly familiar with the f. c. harlem story and the people there. The team have done such a great job in fighting back a lot of this institutional racism that is in this pay to play youth soccer stein here in the united states. And i'm curious. What drew you to the beautiful game in the first place. Because i mean from a treetop view someone who noted who made his name in the hip hop game photographing some of the hip hop games. Greatest artists that might be viewed as like. That's really niche a game of soccer. So how'd that come to be show. You came from another fevers story again. The reach is huge. You know big buffalo bills fan and always love madden house. I've been playing video games. Since you know forever. Atari twenty six hundred. You know you go from tecmo bowl than your madden in over. The last ten years ten years ago i kinda got tired of plan matt and i needed something. Something else in a always looked at a soccer growing up As like you know this white guys play that sport only. It's not for me. It's not for black people. I never saw black people. Play the sport so i had absolutely no relationship with it at all in Living in new york. Sometimes you got to drink. The game is on and have a variety of different friends and a couple of my friends like like the sport. The world cup haris but still kind of lying one zero. Go ahead slip playing on. What is this offsides thing time. There's no ties. I just one night. Try to speak for thing and and literally within two weeks. I taught myself the basic rules. Come out okay. I didn't know everything guys i. Thomas thomas of hotter you know offsides and then from there on out it was. It was a rat like i literally like it morphed into becoming my favorite sport overall where the bills are still my favorite team but soccer football with everyone calling. The world is my absolute favorite sport. So like that was the The transition good video game as many people so this can be a passion right. You could be a fan of his sport but it might not necessarily be your work. How did you transition kind of this newfound interest in soccer into some of that you wanted to work on right in document stories it. I would imagine probably make accessibility for african american. People is is a huge part of it right. Almost making soccer seemed cool in a way. Yes yes yes. My first foray into the soccer world on the business side was i did a collaboration with i did five jerseys and five at them in two thousand eighteen and after that i Continued to document music but also a light bulb went off on a photograph soccer. I've never photographed sports in my life. Why not give it a try. Sent out some emails. And they're like ooh this week. You did before okay here going. I'm really okay. It was that easy. 'cause you know it's you normally not that easy but i guess i forgot like you know hopefully speaking who i am in a yeah it literally just transformed in next to you know you get to produce in direct five mazing videos for one of the biggest clubs in the entire world With i'm still like. I'm still shot. This amazing opportunity. You'd be son. At how many fans. Along the way especially base out here in america that gravitated towards chelsea because of fiba fi has really been the game's biggest draw in terms of an american audience. And a lot of people are like. I'm unstoppable withdraw. And that's how they right chelsea now. I know you found this partnership through linked in. I don't know who your team was in fever. Was there leaning towards chelsea when when chelsea popped up in your inbox. I gotta do that. Is that your team now. I mean they harlem wearing the hoodie right now. I would not say that. Soci- is by team but when it comes to business i he's a photographer. Do have obviously ivo sauce for oc. I i'm a big able cost of fan. I really love. I actually have s- jersey i'm not. I don't care about you know in the coastal by good jersey collector who or what scenically logs. I love the kid. I'm owning it but Yeah i i have a soft spot for charity. I mean i've seen them plant working with them. i've probably seen play more times than any other club Honestly i mean saw spot. Now you're i like to. You learned offsides through playing. Meanwhile i've been watching the game for like two decades. And i still have no idea what offsides is. Now the bar exist so his own nail was over. I can tell that it's impossible to anybody. I'm so what. Are you looking for as a photographer when highlighting the game specifically what about soccer artistically. Can you frame. What is it about the specific actions of soccer. Do you find the most photogenic. Well first of all black people in the sport and not just the the black people on the pitch. I mean the fans. I'm interested in the the the you know. The stadium workers the behind the scene. People like all encompassing that make you know soccer work I'm interested in it. All as far as what i look for in photos. Just it depends on the situation. You know most importantly. I love action. I love drama. I love you know when when the goal goes in yes. That's amazing was on the field. But i wanna turn around and find that fan. That's just freaking out with emotion. You know he's you know that that is an important photo to me and that tells the story of the goal almost more importantly than the goal itself. So it's a lot like a. When i think about how i shoot music you know. It's the same like when i'm shooting in exciting artists on stage. Like tyler. The creator you know. He's so energetic. it's the same energy same same way. Same same everything. Same nuances In both just amazing all right. So let's tell the people about what you've done for chelsea here so at chelsea f c in. Usa's we're all these videos will air the first one launched on the day were recording march. Twenty four th this policy releasing on the twenty fifth. But you'll be telling stories of five different chelsea fans from the five boroughs. Tell people what they're going to be expecting yet. They're also going to be on their their universal facebook as well time now now decide dedicated to the us by all around the world So we have a five boroughs if you got a standard nationally. Don't know the geographic locations zid in new york city. We have queens manhattan brooklyn. Staten island and we have the bronx and each one of these stories are going to focus on one superfan from each of these boroughs of candidates. We have tied. We have joseph replace Harlem who lives in harlem manhattan. We have Edgar from the bronx all people ground skin black folks and there are some amazing stories where you'll hear just how i mean for me. I find amazing for one that the love and the passion someone can have fourteen nostalgia miles away. I see when i go to the games there. I'm just like i melt with emotion. Seeing how important chelsea is to not only to the fence but to the community and have that same importance thousands of miles away these spends one guy them egger. Tony i love the fans but the shirt is more important to me. The club and it just made me wanna ball of grinding is the best answer like you couldn't couldn't scripted this better for you to say this you know. We have tie and to got involved with chelsea for as he heard about with. Fc harlem is doing with him in the association. Is that okay there so shanghai black folks in see that they they feel black people. That's it for me and a zero. Then and that's how he became a fan so he said you'll hear a lot of stories like that from five different player than five players but we at one as a player but five different people. And you'll see my face a lot photos and all that good stuff a lot of johnson. I mean it's it's it's beautiful. What we got really excited. Check out this project over the coming weeks mel very political answer on your favourite club. That doesn't while jenny my excitement in wanting to check out this really amazing project and aid your work your massive on instagram. And you've done really powerful pieces so thank you so much for your work in your art cer- especially this project which is really cool and close to. Our hearts is the official chelsea. F c podcasts. Greg getting to know you and learn these stories that you're going to be telling in the coming weeks. I'm really happy that you guys happy here is honor the go see of course on mount and you're listening to chelsea mic drop. The official cost of the blue. We will turn our attention momentarily to chelsea women but we are in the midst of an international break and chelsea have a A continental squad as luis miguel. I like to call them when he tries to describe their chances which he deems favorable in the champions league chelsea have an international squad and many great players for chelsea or out on international duty. But it's international duty during a pandemic which seems counterintuitive surface. But it's necessary. They start making up some of these games and The euro right around the corner as managers are starting to put pressure on some of these clubs like look. We've made plenty concessions. We need to see who fits as we start narrowing down our squads in advance of this. Summer's euro twenty twenty s. Twenty twenty in twenty twenty sticking with the brand but as are the olympics by the way the twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty one. The olympics is another one. That's actually pretty interesting from an american perspective. I mean it's not a big deal in europe but like the. Us are currently in qualifying. They won their first. Two matches against the dominican republic and costa rica australia win a semifinal to get to the olympics but after a summer in which you know the us might play nations league gold cup critic. Ballistic is eligible for the olympics. Right like the best. Us men's national team is mostly eligible for the olympics. Like if you want to pick a raina politic mckennie tyler adams all. These guys are eligible for the olympics. That's another international competition. You can throw into the middle and it would be in the middle of the club season and chelsea's under no obligation to cushion ballistic. They don't want to. Let's start there. Because you and i are both american. Were men's national team fans. And this is the first time that we see presumably fit christian pulisic although he took a beating against sheffield united. We're finally going to see him out there. He's been withheld out of abundance of caution in dealing with battles with fitness. Now he is out there which on the surface seems like. It could be a golden generation for the men's national team now previous years. The us men's national team has used christian pulisic differently then. His club teams have. What are you looking for here. With christian pulisic and his utilization within the us men's national team why it is kind of the beginning right. He'd like in the chelsea side. You're thinking how does he fit into to call system. How does he fit into lampert system. Whereas i think the us system should start with ballistic right so for me you plug them in left winger and you figure the rest out from there. Like that's his best position. But i my interest is always in how it fits right. How do you get now this generation of players to work together in a system who is the best full-back that plays behind them. So for instance. Sergio desk is playing really well right now for barcelona but there's assault that maybe two fullbacks in the us setup our best and reggie cannon new plays in portugal but they're both right back st move desk to left back at his desk and pulisic work or are you better off playing anthony robinson whose and weaken we got left back for fulham. And so how does it. Which striker is prolific working off of. Is it sergeant. Is daryl decay. Who's had a really good run for barnsley in the championship with midfield. That like you get the balance right. In terms of getting some defensive steelers creativity where does gio raina fit with politic's raina in an ideal world. Probably play in that same position so it really is fit with as you said this generation of talent. We don't really know what it is yet because it hasn't played with the national team before right. We know that at club level. These young players are achieving things. We've never seen american players achieve but pets not necessarily the national team. So i think it's fit and how does gregg berhalter make all these pieces work. Let's turn our attention to the english national team because loads of chelsea players are dealing with english national team duty both on the senior team and the u. twenty one kalomo toy with the twenty one's and chisel loaded u twenty one team in england really super loaded as well. What do you make of Just england on the whole and How these chelsea players fit in they operate under a different system. So you actually have players. Like reese james and ben chill will begin back to their comfort zone a little bit as they've actually been stretched a little bit under thomas too cold but look benca walls. The first choice left back for england. I imagine he's gonna to be going back to what he used to be for chelsea. Well i do think that he does now have some competition in the form of luke shaw. Who's played pretty well for manchester united so i think you know it will. It will be interesting again over the course of three games. In a week. You'll see bench will star at least one of those games at left back but now there's legitimate competition for that place which is a good thing right. I think ben show well in. November is unquestioning leftback unquestioned chelsea left back and he's got to compete and this is a little bit of versi for a player who been show. It wasn't necessarily thought of like a. You know an immensely talented youngster. Coming through as a player who got an opportunity at leicester took that opportunity. Now has become a really good full national teamer and full chelsea player so i do think he's got that competition from the interesting thing. Is you mentioned reese james. Call into this team. It's at the expense of trent alexander. Arnold trails enter. Arnold is not in this national team. And it's kind of crazy when you think of that. Just that right back position. Alone reese james. Isn't it kieran tripper. Good athletico is and he's got a little bit off the radar in english term because he's playing in spain walker in the side as well who plays occasionally centreback for garissa gate and play right back as well but really reza's in this team at the expense of trent alexander arnold gareth southgate had to call alexander. And it'll be like a sorry bad. It's just not working for you right now. This is a guy who a lot of people thought best full-back in the world now isn't even cracking the england side because a player. Lebron james is taking a spot. Yeah i was Shouting from the mountaintops that the wrong liverpool player got player of the season. I mean don't get me started on. How jordan warned. I'm sorry raise them that way. But trent alexander. Arnold was phenomenal last year. Not the same player at all. This year is at van. Dyke stuff is it that the player himself has regrets. He's a young enough age that you shouldn't be too overly concerned but he's moving in the wrong direction you shouldn't be regressing as a player. I know he's had his bouts with fitness to and you must be fair to the player and introduce that to the discussion when you're trying to greatest season on the whole but i was actually thinking about it the other day. I'm like i think. I reached teams more than i do. Try alexander arnold right now and that's crazy considering the gulf between the two players just last year and also in the to calera. You would said that. Reese might have been sacrificed because callum hudson doa was playing that position at the beginning of it. But reese i think was really good in those two legs against go madrid and has earned this place in the england side now but i mean think about the from an english perspective now gareth southgate make some tough choices you have to leave players out of his starting eleven out of his squad that might come back to bite him come the end of the term and if they don't go on to win it but the idea that you can have alexander arnold in your national team pool and he basically is now decided gareth southgate that he's choice. That's insane like that. Just shows a strength in depth at that position and just generally with england that they've got so many good young talents coming through and they've got their national team program sorted. I mean when we were. When i was coming up in soccer ingwer always a team. That were disappointments at major tournaments. And you know weren't developing players like everyone else and now like in ten years. It's wow what a strength in depth. They have well the more things change the more. They may say the same right. They might still disappointed but at least developing the players now. They're generation of great players. Seems to be younger. Plenty of opportunity for the english players to find joy against same marino in albania. So i if you wanna see. Some highlight reel suffer. Maze outreach james and ben joel whichever one of those games hopefully they start. Be cool to see all three in the same lineup. that'd be nice to see cuts and enjoy with you. Twenty one duty none of these countries that we've mentioned by the way are in the. Uk's red zone which is something that has to be part of the conversation when we're talking about international duty amidst the pandemic right now. It doesn't seem like any of these. Chelsea players are going out on international duty have to quarantine so that's very good andres christianson. He was actually playing a defensive midfielder for denmark and would get even riskier in the attack on international duty now with his emergence on the club side as a very solid defender. I wonder if they move them back along that back line but when you talk about the danes the they're not really this brilliant talent. Andreas christianson one of the best soccer talents. That country's ever produced you wanna get them as close to the attack if he's attack minded as humanly possible so i don't really envision him play in the same position that he does for chelsea. I think we might still see him in that midfield position. Yeah it's interesting for some of these countries that don't produce as much talent. Even the defenders have the ball skills that are requisite with the midfielders in their national team. Paul i think of like for example. Dav alibi playing for switzerland in their midfield. Because it just seems like. You're not getting enough of it. I out of a player if you put them at left-back right that he can contribute so much more to the team. And i think for christianson. It's a similar story. But and if you're i mean denmark has had some success off the back of how good they are defensively so i do think that giving kirstens form you do want to at least play to that strength like i said with pulisic your denmark right now. You're kind starting with christians and then going from there given how well he's playing germany and france who countries that chelsea fans always looked to during international duty just because those are usually big hotbeds for chelsea talent. He have habits ruediger and team verner in duty for germany. You have libya giroud in golo. Kante incurred zuma getting the call up for france with giroux. The thing to look for is continue getting closer to teary. On res goalscoring mark is a player that is rounding into form with his national team. Hopefully in advance of the euro's he hasn't been playing watch on the club side nearly as much as he hoped he might be playing here. Will he get the same sort of opportunities or will france decide to turn to another striker. That's maybe been bit more informed. I think his identity is so solidified within that team that we might be able to see a regular olivier's rude and he'll have an honest chance at catching anri. Yeah and it's just so interesting when you look at that france team because in some ways it is like a club team in that no matter what giroux. It's the striker right and again. They're playing three games qualifier qualifier. But they are a club team in that. It doesn't matter which drew does away with with another team or what is club situation is. He's important to that system and their way of playing like you mentioned this kind of continuity that can be really valuable on the international stage. Everyone kind of knows edge. Rue is the reference point. So i would imagine we're san benedetto. Who plays her monico. We'll get a chance to lead the line for them. Maybe kind of go for more flowing formation with either grease man or Or anthony marshy outplaying up top as well but we knowing it comes to france losing. Play up top yeah. The market's beasley. He's got his way on the team's international duty. He's trusted. I think as we close out this international. Wrap up here. I think one of the more interesting things jorgihno who seemed very important to italy. Throughout this qualifying phase had been playing pretty well for them did not make the squad. This time emerson makes squad in researching the segment. I was kind of surprised to find out that georgina wasn't there. When i was looking for south this guy was pretty important for italy. And i thought at times you could make the argument that who's even plan better for country. Then he was for club not chosen. Not what's going on there. Yeah roberto mancini was saying that He he picked up a knock in his knee so it wasn't fit to play these games so we didn't risk him. Now maybe is also because you know world cup qualifiers against lesser opposition. There's all the cova situation so it's almost entirely italian base squad ferber dementia need but yeah Georgina non the side emerson is though emerson is actually another player like drew. Who always seems to figure more prominently for the national team than he does for chelsea. So he'll you'll get a chance to get a few games. I would imagine at the very least a left back. Not a position that it italy or terribly strong giving you the most up to date recording truth be told good a techie by the curtain. Right now we had most of this episode done and dusted. but we're the official chelsea podcast. And we've been getting plenty of attention to the chelsea women's and we wanted to make sure we gave you the most up to date recap so hours before this episode posted chris wittingham and i got gather compared notes and broke down a match. Chris that my biggest from was. I could actually watch it. This is matt again. Chelsea f c women fandom chris i was able to watch it here from the comfort of my own home whilst multitasking and i have a lot of takeaways from this game but that is number one chief amongst them underlying it circle at three times. The accessibility of this game is going to be what grows even from fans of the club. You guys were fans of the shirt but if we're able to watch and if you're able to shout it from the mountaintops because we could have done on the chelsea f c cheap propagandists right as host of this podcast. We could have done a better job messaging to plenty of hands where they could have seen this because we still have to put it in a bit of work to find it thankfully. My computer's healthy and not making noise because this was a legal stream yet i saw this game on your take away from being able to watch this amazing club. Well as you said the takeaway is being able to watch it right like we had to do some recon and ask them where connections over the club. Hey can we watch. Isn't it turns out. It was on the chelsea youtube channel. Now i believe uefa who are actually responsible for this. Mess are rectifying this next season. They're basically going to bake in the women's champions league rights with the men's champions league rights that way it'll be you would think on paramount plus starting from next season but for now every club owns their own rights and so chelsea put this game up on their youtube channel so it was really great to watch and for me the biggest takeaway from the game was i think chelsea for fifty five minutes. We're pretty lucky to still be at nil nil. They were struggling from a defensive point of view playing out from the back. The post came to their aid. We talked about chelsea skipper and katrin. Berger much more has chelsea at this stage with penalty saves and now today comes up with a huge double safe and clearance off the line in one sequence kept chelsea in the game and then that allow them the opportunity for their attacking players to be clinical in front of goal. And that is that we've talked about what the men's team at times but we're not playing well and you've got brilliant attacking players. All you need is a moment and chelsea got to. And i thought the second goal was brilliant. Sam curbing unselfish comes from pressing. Fran kirby wins. The ball gets enough power on the past to get into curse. You could just right towards the near post instead plays an entrepreneurial harder easy finish and all of a sudden you to give away a penalty in salzburger in the tie with an away goal. But i think the way that chelsea recovered after being down not down but kind of being played for a fair. Bit of the match was really huge. It's been the chief strategy on the women's and men's side. Just load the team with talent players capable of individual match-winning capabilities. That could pop up with the most insane. Kerr was brilliant today. Burger was brilliant today. One of the most consistent players really bright friend of the podcast particularly in that first half struggled a little bit. Which was curious timing. Because i've had a tweet saved my drafts over the last twenty four hours directed at espn nfc because their mockery of a top fifty women's players in the world way to districts back to 'em dog thankfully chelsea got their footing in that second half and you got to see the all world players do all world player things and chelsea go into the second leg in a in a nice position here against a really a really good team. You saw in that first half exactly why. Berg had been the thorn and chelsea side. Yeah there from an attacking point of view. There pressing was fantastic on the day. Creating really good chances and made life difficult. I was thinking. Another factor in this tie. That is kind of overlooked is the fact that they're playing on neutral field. They're playing in budapest like the champions league in general. I mean we're talking about chelsea progressing that competition in our conversation about porto. We didn't have a conversation while maybe having to play on a neutral field or even the we didn't talk about much the let's go tie. It's a big deal right because the whole notion of the away goals rule and of all of the different ways that we talked about the champions league is you want to have the second leg at home so that you know the the amount of away goals and you're coming home with knowing what you need to do. That's kinda thrown out the window on a neutral field so you're basically playing a neutral field tournament here between chelsea and volkswagen. The fact they've worked played. Well you don't have a lift from your home crowd or being at home being your home surrounds and so chelsea kind of had to find it from nowhere. They did too. We speak again and when we speak again. Massive guest chris whittingham team. Oh verner is joining us here at chelsea miked up turbo team. Oh mike turbo team. Oh makes his chelsea mic'ed up debut. I cannot wait to talk to him. I've seen interviews of team. Oh verner and he looks like an absolute delight. I imagine it'll be no different. Here cannot wait to get to know turbo team. Oh and for the audience to hear. Turbo t talk about his season. Honestly so look for that coming your way next week until we speak again up the chips.

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Caught Offside: MLS Is Back and EPL continues

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Caught Offside: MLS Is Back and EPL continues

"KABADDI. Yes hold upside. Basement inside of my. Jury is home and from an apartment in Brooklyn and who? Jj, Benny, what's up? Good man. Are you heard a bit of did today? Sure did. We'll talk about that in a SEC. We should tell people i. Lots of EPL action yesterday today. Talk about all that Tottenham players fighting it. Right there in front of us on the Field Christian Pulisic continuing to do so many great things for Chelsea. It's making an American soccer fan who usually hates Chelsea feel very conflicted inside watching their games mls is about to be back as they tell you in the name of the tournament, and the less is back. We're GONNA talk with stepping Ofra. Sorrow is down there for ESPN. He's inside. Inside the bubble, so we're GONNA talk with him about everything going on down there what it's been like what the reaction to FC Dallas and their departure was live what it's been like for Nashville. Who are now kind of going through a similar situation to Dallas? Although they're still in tournament? There's a lot to talk about. We'll do our own soccer like actual soccer conversation about mls back. And Red Cards man-of-the-match is back as well so There's there's really a lot to get to on this podcast I'm very excited about it Steph join us in a few minutes. Be I had a weird day today. So like you know we talked about. We'd actually didn't mention it on the last podcast, but I had my my sister's wedding and it was. It was great. You know is kind of like. Obviously, it was different. Not The wedding that they were planning to have they were planning on having a conventional wedding with a lot of people in friends and at a reception hall, and all that stuff and Corona viruses obviously made it, so that's not the case, and so I wound up officiating. It and I was really happy with with how everything went. Really it was. It was a great time, but my wife and I in the aftermath of it. No. It was the first time that we had kind of like. Open ourselves up. We have been like we been on strip lockdown. We have been militant with how we've handled ourselves during this, so I I'm where we were like opened up to like twenty people and whoever they've been. You Know Pailin around with or whatever like who knows. How big are circle just got in this one event and so after. I don't know people like in our head or what? We didn't have fevers, but little bit a sore throat real really tired. Again probably nothing probably allergies, but we were just like you know what there's a testing site right near us it's it's free to go. It's super convenient. It's a drive through were like. Let's just make an appointment and we'll just go, so we did today. I would say a couple of things about it. for anyone that has not gotten it done. like I said it is easy like I at least here in New York because I think calmed down in terms of people who who have coronavirus I think they have it. I don't want to speak for other parts of the country that are going through it in a bad way right now. We just drove right in. Did it one thing about it? It was actually more uncomfortable than what I was expecting. That thing is up there man like. And they keep it up there for six seconds in each nostril. It was true uncomfortable. It's even worse when you showed up without any pants or this is. This is your nose. Right Oh, misinformation! But I will say this though it felt like I. Did everything wrong when I got there? I was like well I, pulled up, and immediately I roll the window down, and there was a minor freak out from the woman who came to my car, no windows up windows up I, said Oh my God. Like I'm sorry I don't want to do anything wrong here. It all feels very official and serious. The entered the car via the tailpipe. So windows windows up I was afterwards I was. was there a sign that I see that? But whatever so then that was the first checkpoint, and then already now on nervous because I'm I'm kind of over one. And, so then I pull into the second checkpoint where they actually conduct the tests, and so I'm sitting there, and you know you and I jj talk all the time about our appreciation of history. And, so I'm not trying to not saying this to trivialize anything I'm actually saying this to kind of like. Explain myself a little bit. When I was sitting there in this tent, waiting for this kind of like the the history of the moment were in sort of hit me and I was like you know here. We are like this people in. If you've seen et before right, you know the end of et like the people in those kinds of suits. They're all around US suits as this. This is surreal. Moment in American Life in global life, and like Jack and Luke. My kids are going to be learning about this in school in ten years fifteen years. Whatever it is, and so I was like you know what I kind of want to document this, so put up the phone very nonchalant. Click picture on second freakout. Excuse me, Sir Sir. What what Oh my God what? There's no flash. Photography here. You need to delete that photo immediately and I saw I. Right away got rid of it, and I was just like how many more things can I screw? This, is so you? You're going to have a swab. Stuck up your nose. Right check if you've got a disease. And you think you're Louis through. Like! I'm not trying to on journalist out there like you're you're. You're ridiculous, but I didn't see any signs to suggest that you shouldn't is a commonly known thing. I don't know so. I felt like just like completely butchered it I felt so bad as I left that like these doctors like the last thing they probably want is like. Their lives have been so difficult having to do this day in day out and put themselves at risk. Here's this buffoon. Roland is windows down. He's taking pictures and like an afterward when she came over to. Uh, she's like. Is this your first test? And I was like? Yeah, we we kind of opened our circle up a little bit at a wedding and afterwards. Afterwards, Amanda was sorry. Sorry you said it like that. I volunteered that I went wedding and our circles were opened up a bit and afterwards Amanda was like. Why would you tell them that? That is probably the last thing that they want to hear. The people are doing, and I will let it dry. He's more another buffoon who can't stick by the rules I know, but I try to justify as. As being like wool. You're right, but I'm also hopefully. She heard me say that and thought Oh. Well these people are very responsible. They attended a wedding and the first thing they did afterwards was come. Get a test to make sure they don't have it. In spread it to more people, so I think I could salvage that one, but after I left I, just felt so bad handled everything wrong. Hopefully obviously we don't have it. I don't think we do it was. A hope you tell the truth to Jack and Luke time comes. What was the? What was the pandemic like of Twenty Twenty? What was it like getting tested Papa and I. Hope you honestly go well, son. It was as most things are in my life. Kind of awkward. And I- bungled every step of along the way and a little bit embarrassing, too. So, yeah, so that's that was my day today. But should we get into some of the some of the soccer there? I think we should do that. Yeah, so we're GONNA talk with a for officer a moment. WHO's down in the Orlando bubble before we get to that MLS is back. We are on the eve of its return. By the time you're listening to this. It may have already returned. I guess we'll start with the not so fun parts. Look, you kind of have to call. The tournament is not off to a great start from multiple angles obviously FC Dallas. Being forced out of the tournament, due to an excessive number of positive tests, now Nashville as C.. is kind of dealing with a similar situation, not to the extent of FC Dallas they're still in the tournament, but their opening match against Chicago has been postponed. You have. Some key players who will not be taking part most notably, it's now been confirmed. We've kind of been talking about it for weeks now as if it was like common knowledge, but it's now been confirmed no Carlos Villa in the tournament for l., AFC and then Jj. Just before we went on, I was reading. One of our favorite guys rally phillips, WHO's now with L. AFC. He was on the sports bubble PODCAST I. Don't know if you saw this quote from him, but he was talking about the tournament going on with the current climate global pandemic climate. That's going on in the US simultaneously and he says I. Don't really care how I come across here because it's no secret to me I. Just think it's a little bit stupid. If I'm being honest, I just think we could have waited like the rest of the League's. And you train until you're able to play and that's it. He said he goes on here. I'll read a little bit more from him. He said you've taken us all to a place now in a bubble where you gotta stay in your room away from your families, you know some people got some real. Some real life issues you know to deal with and just got a go and leave your family for how long you know but I guess money talks my friend. And I I can't criticize him because it is an issue that I kinda brought up. On our last podcast was this idea of are we sure were ready to be doing this? I still don't know the answer to that. It doesn't matter. Here we go full steam ahead, but he raises no I think his points that he raises valid. Of course they're violent. Andrew I was reading an article today about. Sports and the idea of a bubble, and this was from April sixteenth. You can't think of it as airtight said. Dr William Schaffner Vanderbilt, university professor, WHO's an expert in preventative medicine and infectious diseases because it won't be. Right, so, it's not possible to do this. In an airtight environment in totally safe environment, and it's definitely not possible to do it in a country that last week hit fifty thousand daily infections. Like! We have not made the progress. We needed to make for Anne this to happen with the kind of safety unsurety we would want. But what are we supposed to do? Question like I think. I. Will I honestly believe? D- potato twelve and said was was right the other day on Sports Center. If you look at this country's approach. It's being in terms of reopening being state by state thing so how are we expected to have teams coming from across the country into a bubble who have gone through acquiring a an isolation situation, a social distancing situation that is absolutely equal together and come into this bubble. The same there was no. There was no countrywide. Universal approach to this. And what are we getting? We're getting pockets on on hot spots. In different states, and some states are further on than others and some states are way behind. And that's just the way it is like we we know we never set ourselves centers of up to be in a position to have sports back, but we're going to have them well. We're GONNA. Plow ahead, and that's it. Yeah, and look. It's all those fair like I keep wanting to compare the various sports restarts in the United States to what we've seen with the Bundesliga, premier league, and we'll talk more specifically about the premier. League's restart when we get out of the match later in the show. But you really can't. You can't make the comparison like the United States. It's just such a big sprawling country. Like it's just I guess for whatever reason it's just been tough to demand every part of the country to be at the same place in terms of their handle on this virus as There has been an attempt to demand. Everybody. Do the same thing that's also. nettle euro here we. Are and we have some choices to make, and it looks as if we're going to go ahead and I I do understand the sentiments of Bradley Wright Phillips. But MLS. Staring at a billion dollars of lost this season anyway, and there's no point saying otherwise what he said is true. Money Matters, and they want to play the tournament. They want to have football on the field this summer, and that's what we're gonNA have starting tomorrow. I'll tell you what let's take a super quick break when we come back on the other side of it Stanford Zara will join us from the bubble sounds like bio dome right? Don't you picture like Paulie shore Stephen Baldwin to be down there just like hanging out like biosphere three. What I'm wearing a paulie shore shark right now to be honest with you what does that? He just the kind of thing he wearing a Hawaiian shirt common. Guess so I don't really remember what he wears I think about it often, but it escapes me. At any rate will be back in a moment Stephon sorrow from the bubble in Orlando. will join us to kind of give us a feel what it's like down there. Don't go anywhere. America is ready to get back to work, but to win in the new economy. You need every advantage to succeed. SMART companies run on next by Oracle. The world's number one cloud business system when that sweet you'll have visibility control over your financials, HR, inventory, ecommerce, and more everything you need all in one place whether you're doing a million or hundreds of millions in sales net sweet lets you manage every penny with precision. You'll have the agility to compete with anyone. Work anywhere and run your whole. 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Actually I've heard there renaming sportscenter to Stephanos Center, is that true? Sweat, it feels like nowadays, no, no question and it's funny. Right as we were going from from the Times of quarantine, where and tons of no sports where you know. Our job is to be sportscenter. We're sports at our reporters. And I was on sports in probably three times the last four months, and just in day one I was on sportscenter five times in the day, so in one day I made up three months. Oh, it's. Definitely a crazy time man. You mentioned how the field down there is somewhat surreal. We'll get to that set, but I guess I want to start with what's. Most important topic, and that is everybody's health I saw. Noni says that he feels safe inside the bubble, do you? I do We were talking with this group by producer and my cameraman are here that we felt safe since being here, we it's it's masks. At all times the only time I take up a maximum in my room or when I'm on TV and besides that I mean it's it's not. The masks have to be on at all times. There is cited for social distancing. There is set at hand sanitizer everywhere you go I do feel that the protocols put in place are are here to make the safest possible and I don't feel unsafe and I think that if you're following the rules of doing the right things and keeping your distance, and and really just being careful who you come in contact with. I feel almost safer inside here of with all of was being tested every single every other day. than have at home. The one of the grocery store are going. Anywhere at this point. The mood of the players. If you can judge it from from what you see, how would you describe it right now? So the players I understand why. There is a little more anxiety amongst the players now I do feel. That's changed over the last couple of days when they've seen that FC Dallas they were able to contain. All all the positives as a grew amongst at teen. They're able to contain it to the team natural same thing they're having their issues with five posits has four inclusive tests, but they're containing it and I think that with the League doing that. You're seeing players be a lot more. You know kind of a sigh of relief if you will and now just focusing on on getting on the field, but the players are the ones that I. think would be even more risk than than us right. We don't come very close to them. Where in the same hallways, we make sure to keep distance from the players. The last thing we need is is ESPN reporter contaminates player, and he can't be on the field, and then we don't want that but they're the ones that traveling pods are. Are they try to keep themselves to only their own teammates There are rules for ELA for the elevator. You know they don't want any Clare's opposite teams in the elevator as well as when I'm in an elevator. They don't want players elevator so being very careful with that. They're the ones that are more at risk because they're. The ones that are traveling in positive ones are closer together and one against it. It's going to be very difficult to stop the spread amongst their own teammates. Stepping on I heard you use the word relief. They're off. was that in reference to FC Dallas? Curious what the player reaction was to the announced that they were going to be leading. The tournament was relief was a shock was was his appointment. How was that news received? Amongst the players. Or amongst everybody down there media from other teams. I would assume the FC. Dallas players were probably disappointed, but what about the product? Curious? What? The reaction was like the lease? Other teams that we're going playing against them. Yeah I mean I think that there is. I think it kind of just. died for the team. That can't be here to play and not being able to play a look as far as see Dallas, because they're their players I, think they're happy that this is the situation now. They're stuck here. They're still here. They're not going to be leaving here. Until those players that tested positive comeback with two negative tests at least two negative tests, so they're gonNA. Be Stuck your for. For, at least a little bit longer I did have a chance to speak to Gonzales head coach Messy Dallas that maybe a couple of hours ago, and he told me that look like soccer wasn't even on their minds. At this point their solo goal was to really try to get guys to recover and the health and safety of their players in the one coach. Who's WHO's sick and As far as their reaction I think there is relief that they're out of the situation now that off to worry about getting having to get on the field, all they're worrying about is trying to get home There's a lot of other coaches and teams that just really feel for them. Kind of just say the right things. As far as you know, we feel for you guys were here. We need to focus on us and continue to do the things that we need to do so. We don't end up in that situation. Steph! I've question about something that I think the Bundesliga and the primarily. And LALITA got away with was the fact that for the viewer it was still the same stadium. When you come and watch the game, you could tell it with James's park or Old Trafford, or wherever How visually is this tournament? GonNa Look? At definitely going to be different. I will tell you this. It's GonNa be a unique viewing experience at the very least for for casual I mean I know that you guys will be watching. I know that the diehard fans are gonNA, be watching no matter what but I feel like you for the casual viewer. We're GONNA have a lot of resources that we don't usually have four soccer broadcasts on ESPN and ran reality on any network Just Kim One is going to have twenty cameras think about that twenty cameras for broadcast your views and perspectives that you don't usually have. There's going to be microphones embedded in the fields so the at the. The Center Circle Dobie in two microphones in the ground, catching all the audio. That's coming. You'll have to grow to microphones embedded in the ground in front of each of the technical areas. Thankfully, there's going to be a delay because there's going to be a lot of words that aren't allowed on national TV, but I think it's GonNa. Add a very cool perspective that now. Yes, there's not going to be a the stands rather than a Lotta virtual silence around the pitch there is not virtual, Israel sign and ads around the which you would see at any normal stadium in the United States or in Europe. But I think it's going. Be a cool perspective at cool view of something where? All the resources that maybe they've wanted to use on soccer and football broadcasts that they're just not able to because of the of the environment and the stadium itself. They're going to be able to do that now and I think just going to be a very cool viewing experience I mean that we're not used to. Steph I wanted to ask you about you. Kind of mentioned in passing before I wanted to go slightly deeper on the situation with Nashville saw. Their matching in Chicago has been postponed. Five players testing positive I was wondering if you'd give us a the latest on their situation and be. Can you make it clear to us kind of once, and for all if you know our players testing positive? After, arriving at the bubble. Acquires Mingling and somehow passing it within their. Is that what they're kind of Justin so? short answer is no All of the tests that have arrived and they perform contact tracing after the positive tests all the positive tests, the initial ones are all off of the plane upon arrival. We all be tested and then for twenty four hours, and those five positive tested. Nashville got we're all of them were upon arrival, so the first test that they took and then immediately quarantine. Now there's also four inconclusive tests with national, and that's why they're performing more additional testing league is said that they're going to really evaluate their participation in the tournament moving forward, depending on what happens with that additional testing. I mean that's what we all with Nashville they are. There are quarantined as well. The players who have tested positive have an isolated another wing of the hotel and the players the rest of the traveling party for national is also quarantine in their own rooms, just has had abundance of caution. Right because we they don't WanNa. Have that incubation period where they might not test positive and all of a sudden they do test positive. Then they've been walking around the hotel infecting everyone, so it goes back to what we were saying It's all about the protocols following the positive tests and they they do feel comfortable with how those protocols are working. And being able to confine it and contain it to to the certain players that have already tested positive. I was listening to Bruce Arena's speak just before we recorded this, and he was talking about not so much covid nineteen, his musical learn, but the heat and humidity. How bad is it down there? It's and I'm a I'm a Miami native so I'm used to this weather, but I'll tell you what it is bad. It is Johnny degrees, his ninety percent humidity, and those nine am. Games are going to be brutal They're going to be brutal for everybody but look. I've talked to players about it and talked to coach about it and you know. They're gonNA PROBABLY GONNA. be seeing to drink breaks rather than the one that we've been seeing in the premier league in the other leagues around the. AROUND EUROPE BUT Yeah I mean it's. It's something that they're is also why. The Nashville game is getting postponed. Why some of the other Games have been postponed? They need to allow these teams time to train in. This weather was a lot of these players aren't used to this I. Mean they're not used to playing this type of heater committee? So it's almost an fair advantage of you allow. San Jose has been here for twelve days already, and they've been able to train. You Know I. Mean How many times you've fifteen sometimes twice a day in the they're you know what I mean in Toronto just arrived yesterday in. Vancouver just arrived yesterday. So that's why the need to postpone these games because they have to give him sufficient training time in this ridiculously hot weather. One thing I was kind of wondering about so this bubble atmosphere as one of your report the other day where you kind of describe the field area as eerie in some ways and hearing it discredited has a very like Black Mirror feel to it I interpreted the setting, and I'm just wondering amongst all that. are in the sense that layers are excited like A. is there a feeling of all right? Let's go. Let's go in this thing now. Does that exist in the bubble now. Yes, I think that the eerie feeling was really at the beginning. We got here the day that we got your excuse me the day before the FC, Dallas News broke the original six positive tests broke. I feel like at that point. There was only about seven teams here, and it was eerie. 'cause cut in see a whole lot movement people not knowing exactly where to go what to do whether interact with or not to interact, and it was just kind of an off feeling I remember walking into the Hotel Dune I walked into the hotel on a kind of looked around. I know was in the right place because there was a driver that was set. We couldn't even rent cars to drive to the hotel. We there was a driver set for us to be a shuttled over here and it was kind of walked in and looking around like. Find the right spot like this this. And it was, and I think that that was how he then the news broke with that see. Dallas had the players. Really nervous at this point we actually were talking with Chris. Wanted Allows Ski. When the news broke and we Kinda told Chris what Alaska. And they were, the San Jose earthquakes were scheduled to go a mini golf outing I believe which is on the property, the canceled that and the quarantine themselves in the room and he saw everybody go in. There was nobody around the hotel for about a day and a half elway Now we're seeing kind of what. was happening national in the fact that is contained and day from games now you're seeing that enthusiast now you're seeing that energy, and that will just wanting to get out on the pitch and do what they love, and that also has come with captains and coaches, making sure that their players are doing the right thing and following the protocol, so they don't get sick and they can do what they love. Is it your sense that once we? It's just a case of getting this tournament started and once the ball gets rolling. It's going to be frank. And I know talking with people here. I think that. Wednesday's the hurdle right at Wednesday's day-to-day. Just need to get past and. Again. Does that say that there's not gonna be any more positive tests? Of course you can't just you cannot predict that, but. I think that once they get the ball rolling and they get that first game going and we can. They can get him a little bit of a momentum going as far as houses tournaments going to go, I feel like. Of course if they stay save, this'll be something that hopefully will be in the rear premier, and they can continue to focus on the football. We continue to focus on on the Games. which is what we all want to do right? I mean I. I was at the end of the day on a report reports about sports that I've been reporting about ninety eight last week so I'm excited to start talking soccer. And I'm glad that you bring that up because I wanted to end on that actually get a soccer thought from you. You Go I. Mean obviously there's Tournament GonNa look a little bit different in terms of personnel. No Carlos, Neyla obviously no Joseph Martinez. Feels a little upper grads. With those players not being here the format being what it is to to you kind of like. Who Do you have your eye on for this tournament as who we should proceed to be the favorites? Yeah I mean it's it's. It's difficult just because I think there's going to be rough, no matter what I think we've seen it in the other leagues in Europe I've seen they've begun You've seen kind of players being a hundred percent and taking a little bit to get their legs under them. I, do think that there is the league tournament is up for grabs but I. DO expect there to be teams that are gonna Kinda, shine and and I do my opinion. One of the favorites might be NYC. AFC I. Think they have a squads prepared for this type of tournament. I think that they've quietly kind of under the radar become one of the better teams in the eastern. Conference and I believe that they are. are set up with their talent, and with their leadership, and with their new coach right Elliott who's been who's even the too short games in the two games that we saw were very impressive I think that that's a team that you're gonNA. Have to watch the East and in the Western Conference. I mean without difficult to to go with la of see even though they're still the betting favourite in Vegas. I'm going to PICK SEATTLE SEATTLE or their experienced, and and coming off of their tournament and winning. They're winning the molest. Cup I think it's going to be. I think they're the team that is most prepared to coverage which meant like this. Do you know take the punches thrown and be able to deliver some of those blows when? Good stuff man. We look forward to seeing more of your ordering on sportscenter on. Hopefully we'll be able to catch up again as this term and actually progressing to actually yeah, let's do it. We'll do it again. Our thanks to Steffano great information from down there Hopefully he stays safe. Hopefully, everyone does hopefully like I asked about the excitement level. They're like this is meant to be fun. Yeah, I hope that that does return like I. Look at what's the point of it well, money is the point but like. That's what you want. This like I've been genuinely excited as frustrating. His Tottenham matches at times like in the lead up to their games I've been so starved for sports for soccer. I've been I've been truly excited for Tom you have i. have really have honestly. Until the game. and. Then you're like. unexcited for playing this Thursday. I'm excited for the North London Darby like I don't even like. Them to game happens in. It's yeah, but like not that the excitement matters and I just hope that that feeling like. I think once. I think once what the heck was. That wouldn't ask your sirens. People are buzzing your this is believable. This is just unprofessional of no idea. What the highest order! Yeah I know I'm in an apartment in Brooklyn. That's how we tease the show Andrew and sometimes things get real in Brooklyn Real somebody ordered someone's someone's Bonar door to get in some kind of a deliveryman. Believable and I'm not responsible for the sirens outside. Good Lord. This is just not professors, not a professional. It's not professional. I've lost my train of thought, but these are the times we live in. This is the new normal. All right here we go. Like we talked about a moment ago, we want to at least discuss a little bit of the tournament and like the soccer that we're about to see that we said is is the fun part so let's do that I've got a few questions here. We'll go over them. and hopefully we'll have you at least somewhat ready Kinda crash. Course into the MLS is back. Cup. And I wanted to ask you. I don't really have much of an answer to this, but I'm curious if you do so this tournament, this is all just like so different. And it's going to be so quick like. But it's, but we're also told that this matters. This is a trophy and the teams. Everybody wants to win. This could any coach who's like conceivably on the hot seat coming into the season. Could any coach actually lose their job with a bad showing in this tournament? Andrew went back and forth on this one so so we got to realize that you know. The points accrue during this tournament in the group stage will carry on. We believe into the regular season that they're gonNA. Try and start off culminating with MLS COBB, so so conceivably a bad run this. And then abide run in your regular season. I think could get you fired, but this tournament on its own after not being able to be with your players for the last four months almost limited training in this really intense month-long tournament in with all the things that go with it in terms of the social isolation in terms of just how weird it's going to be. Like that will be outraged to sack. A manager just based on that I. Don't think they could you have to be right like? To me would feel very cruel and unfair for this to be I. Mean if the if you have a manager on the hot seat I think it's fair if you're if it's a good team who underachieve here. I think it's fair for it to be a strike against the manager, and like if they continue to struggle during the season, you know this this is fair game to be used like. When he sits down with the sporting director of being like look, you underperformed analysts back tournament like I think that's okay, but I can't imagine. If like Atlanta, goes out in the group stage. They're like Franklin. Bar have a seat. You're gone like no, no, not like that. That's is silliness I. could not imagine that, so I think you're I, think you're you're right on that I was also. This is another thing that we talked about Stephanie. A little bit and I know you've been on this big time in terms of the setting in which these Games are taking you. So I was curious for you specifically on this one when you're watching these games. How long do you think it's going to take for you? To feel normal watching one of these games played. It actually it shouldn't take that long. We've kind of had that running with the Bundesliga the primarily with no find, so we figured that one out and watching NWS l.? Challenge COP. Is a pretty good way to kind of hold on yourself and get yourself ready for what looks like a training ground scenario, but is actually competitive games. Once you see a few games Andrew once once you you get into the rhythm of of having no fans, and also your surrounds the people who've played fee. On most of the fief as you can night, there's like a stadium training site that's just got the pitch. And sometimes you can put a hedge around. It are whatever and you play on that an people who've seen that can can get something of an idea what this is going to look I actually think. If you get stuck into the tournament. USA Right I'm invested in this as you should. I'm watching the nine am's I'm really I'M GONNA plan my day around watching mls coop are mls is back. Don't your dare call at that. No, the MLS is back. Tournament. How dare I even mentioned the cup? You'll get in on a very quick. You really will sign. are able to adapt I agree. Like! Any one of us, I feel like I've turned on ESPN NEW ORLEANS ACC network, or any one of these insieme college soccer game today played in a not so different environment as the some of what you're going to be seeing with this so like. Yeah, it's it's weird but I think it'll normalize for people. Quick look if I turn on my TV and I see. The gridiron imposed upon the pitch and I see like home of the of the of the braves or something like that like a high school. Thing I then I would obviously be quite upset, but this is going to look like a proper soccer field. You, know when you switch on the College Games, and you're like I'm excited to see this and you're like Oh. That's disappointing. There's an end zone. Never asked for that right, but. This is going to look good. Yeah, one thing by the way kind of semi related so. Early on in like the pandemic when people were working from home for the first time, and and all that stuff I saw a stat. where? Apparently, there's an actual like. Quantity that you can place to how long it takes for a human being to to feel normal to adapt to an abnormal situation if they're if they're in it every day, you WanNa. Guess how long it takes. Three three days four days I was told three what I saw was three weeks out. For some for something, abnormal for you to adapt to it, and it feel normal if you're if you're immersed in it for three weeks, then that thing will become normal. I've I've become accustomed to the shape of your head version. Quick probably took about three weeks. No, would your hair right now it's it's it's not regular. Actually I don't know people. People really seem to have a problem with it. People are offended by appearance. It's it's kind of unnerving for me. Because I kind of grown to enjoy this hair. I've never had my hair this long, but it looks fine. It's just it looks like it takes some kind of holding down. If you know what it means some strong product, there's nothing. I don't know people's reaction to it. Heads I can tell you. It hasn't hasn't been pleasant and quite. Frankly, it's kind of affected my my confidence and self esteem. All right here. We go now. Kinda, more into like the meat and bones here, JJ. I know everyone obviously wants to win. This like that's a given, but can you I hope this makes sense. Can you think of a team that you think would like really want to win this? Well I've I've combined that in a typically I can't answer strict question. I've kind of combined it into two things I think. I think the San Jose earthquakes would absolutely love to win. This tournament and I also think that I would love them to win this tournament because they've got. You know they've got some history in MLS and the last few seasons have have not been great a really like the appointment of Matteis on Meda, and like his old school approach to preseason like he probably enjoys this this right now I mean. If there wasn't a pandemic, he'd have them in the Andes. Mountains doing like oxygen. Training or whatever it is I I like his unique idea is like you know. He's old. Are I mean. Is this even old school going absolute man for man when you don't have the ball? He just seems like a guy apart in this league, and I know it wasn't a great introduction. MLS Life. Last season was pretty open down, but but I would absolutely think that they as a as a franchise as an organization that has like this good history in mls going back to the start that they would love absolutely love. To be you know? To be a cup winner here and and it might be tournament that actually suits an uber fit team a team that can handle the humidity I've also got I know I'm returning to a theme on this podcast of late but Chris Wanda Hausky. Imagine the ice. Of the S on this tournament for for a solid month, Wando heads into the final as top score in the tournament. It's extra time. It's one one. The ball falls to him into six hundred bucks. Let it go man. No, he know what I'm saying is this time it's set up for him for redemption. That will be redemption. All will be forgotten, okay? But. I hope that he does succeed I like the guy but man. This is like four straight weeks. We brought up this this poor guy in that moment against Belgium unbelievable. He's GonNa have the eyes of the nation on him. Again Andrew So. All right well. Here's who I went with Jj. NYC AFC would really really love to win this boy they would like. Let's just look at at their recent. There will their whole histories recent history, but like let's look at their history last year eastern conference number one seed out in the conference semifinals. Cup Two thousand, eighteen, third in the east out in the conference, Semis, two thousand, seventeen, the two seed out in the conference semi to Columbus Twenty Sixteen again. The two seat obliterated seven nil on aggregate by Toronto in the conference. Sonny's they're always good, but they're never for whatever reason quite good enough. To get past that second round, especially, obviously tournament format. And remember last season against Toronto at City Field Oh. What a disaster! The way the collapse laid on and Who Was it made that Taco I'm trying to was a matter. Morita account even remember who made attack. Oh absolutely dreadful and Toronto scored the penalty and ice did yeah, it was. It was completely and utterly gut wrenching for them, and you know the thing with them in particular is. Why I think this, you know it feels like Stephanos said there's a win ability here. Four NYC AFC! Specifically as a team that could be built for this. There's a lot of cohesion in terms of players coming back from last year's top seed in the eastern conference. Yes, it is a new manager. Ronnie daily, but you'll. Maybe this break helps them in. In in terms of him well, maybe I don't know we'll see. We know like you know, but here's the other thing. They've always lived in this in this red, bull shadow. Know, both in terms of history, and in terms of general success against one another. But like what a feeling it would be for them to get some silverware here a winnable tournament and you know there's their cross city. Rivals are still it's still alluded them for so long and NYC AFC there's a chance here that they could do it. I think I. Just on many levels this would be. This would be just something that they would love to have so yeah and why CFC? Are I wasn't. I wasn't being ignorant by saying. You know run ideas had all this time and you know to to sync with his team. I I know I. Know What you're saying, but I was listening to Bruce. Today and Bruce has just changed my mind on that. He said one of the big challenges is these guys will have played no meaningful games. In solon it. We don't know what we're going to get. That is true unlikely, said the weather. How fit they are? You're right like there are variables here. That are are like what if you know? A bear goes down like early in the tournament like it's hard to account for stuff like that and sadly guys are probably going to get hurt. That's that is a given. That's a given a normal season, but like this one. It feels like it's going to be even. Of a storyline, so yes, having said that all of our predictions here are are nonsense. Take the grain of salt for whatever they're worth but we thought it would still be fun to talk soccer here's your next one JJ. GimMe a team or player whatever you want that. You had a bad feeling about such a mean question I'm going to go to Groupie it's Atlanta Cincinnati red bows and Columbus. And FC Cincinnati. Just stand out like a sore thumb looking at the group in terms of just a managers, every other manager. Frank Board Atlanta at the Red Bulls. Chris Armas Columbus. You know they have got their. Established, coaches coaches with a lot of spirit experience MLS. And here. We are in Cincinnati with Yep stom-. WHO's appointed joining upon Democ? and. I? Noise being appointed, he's been appointed because pretty I actually think he was treated unfairly at reading I thought I thought he did a really good job there. He's appointed also because this is a team that leaks goals, and he's GonNa, look to organize things. And he needs everything to Gel. He's had very little time with the squad and he's Coleman with. I think the weakest squad in groupie comfortably I think those teams every other team so much better. I don't see how they don't take a hammering a really. Don't know if maybe if Allen Kruse hits the ground running bowl. You'RE GONNA you're. GonNa look at the new sign instead. He's got and they need to Gel to but Andrew. The ship goals last season. They'RE GONNA ship goals in this tournament, too. I think I think they're going to struggle and it's going to be. Look. It brings the whole group collective together but I. Just don't see them doing anything right now. In this tournament, free APP style. Yeah I I'M NOT GONNA. Argue with you on that. They would be on my list as well for me here. I'M NOT GONNA. Take the the L. AFC bait. Even though without fail I still think that they're loaded. They should be one of the favorites still in my mind. I'M NOT GONNA. Take the Atlantic nodded FCC Bait, even though there without Joseph Martinez after his torn ACL I still think they're loaded in their own, and should be considered one of the favorites in the East but I am going GonNa. Go low hanging, fruit and I'm looking at you, Vancouver. Oh ooh Yeah, on the back of too bad seasons last year in particular. They're mad at your marked the Santos. He's been in charge of the club thirty eight games. He's won just nine of them, so already were coming from a point of this may not go great for us. And then FC Dallas drops out of the competition. In their group and you think Oh, well, who knows maybe that could wind up being some kind of escape route out of the group and into the knockout stage. But then JJ ON ESPN AFC earlier today, and you see this news that five Vancouver players will not be participating in this tournament and it's not just any players. It's Br them in particular. Lucas Cavaliers Tucson rickets and Fredy Montero. Those are three crucial players to a team that is already not. That highly thought of mass bad yeah, so certainly reasons for for concern. is going to be trying. I was going to try and be clever with you Andrew and say that day of of the teams in MLS. Vancouver have the youngest average age at twenty four point one. Let's the average squatted, and in the heat and humidity, and the games coming thick and fast. A tournament style at that would suit them, but. No. Losing quality players does not suit anybody. I curious to look up whether or not? Age is actually a factor in terms of injury rate. Like outlook, obviously a guy who's in his upper thirties. I would think is no. But, like a team, whose average age is twenty, four versus a team, whose average age is twenty, six or twenty seven light? Do actually think that that makes a difference I don't know. I think I would doubt between twenty four and twenty seven, so the the average young average age is twenty four point one that's Vancouver and then the elder statesman, which is not old in Portland is twenty seven point to it I don't think it makes that much of a difference in there, but I think individually players above. To Twenty eight twenty nine mark. Not that there become more injury prone in kind of a regular week to week scenario. Where you've got games like this Komen common fast, I think maybe. Maybe with a high volume games, injuries become more of a problem I know a guy I can ask about that though. What you do that, I will ask him and I will report back. Sounds like a plan. All right and then one more here for you, the opposite of the one we just asking me a team or player that you have a good feeling about. Again I just can't answer question in straight fashion at all I've gone with a coach hundred. That's fine. If anybody knows what it's like to be a player in a tournament and win. and. People are gonNA. Be Shocked that I'm going to say this, but it's teary on re. And Montreal, the impact were showing signs of life owner anri before cova stroke I, think when it comes in there much to my surprise, but will bolster that midfield. You've got maximum. Arruti and boy in an attack. Maybe this Montreal team will be equipped to execute on the break, because certainly what we saw in CONCACAF. Champions League and in the opening games of MLS was that they didn't have a lot of the ball Likud contain, and they were really good on the break. Maybe they can surprise some people again I'm looking at their average age twenty five point five. Maybe this means nothing, but they should have legs in the heat. I just have a funny feeling about Montreal and I think maybe short. Monthlong Tournament. I think it might suit on rate unlike they weren't. They weren't great. They had the loss to Olympia at home in the Khan. Catch Z. I know they weren't perfect, but they were better than I thought they'd be. And maybe he can get something out of them, and they'll be a surprise. They've got the Darby game with Toronto the group as well. That's going to be interesting. I I'm going to give on break because I have not been impressed by with him as a coach at Monaco, obviously, he had a job with the Belgian national team as a as a selector and assistant manager boat. Yeah I'M GONNA. Give them a break I. Think maybe they can do something well Volvo. Indeed. I'll tell you what. Jj our Canadian listeners are really going to enjoy this podcast because we just admit hoover now you just add Montreal the team that I have a good feeling about. We'll stay in Canada will actually stay in that group and I go with Toronto City. Because I still believe that are one of the most talented clubs in the league now they have a healthy Michael Bradley back. As half of our audience rolls, there is, but he is good player. I don't care what anyone says. Across this great land phones that are tuned to caught offside have been thrown out the car window. I! Don't care I. Will. I will die on this hill that he is a is still a good player. You know r.i.p are mentioned. Whatever Man But he had ankle surgery wasn't expected to be ready for much of the season, but now with this delay. He will be ready for this. Oh Bradley's back. The question mark is potentially on Josie outdoor. Greg Vanney said it seems like they're going I saw the term load management being used Greg Vanney said that outdoors, not going to be ready for the first game. After only pretty much just recently rejoining training after coming out of the mandatory quarantine flying back into candidate, he had been allowed to train separately in Florida. And then when he rejoined team mandatory fourteen day quarantine period when you go from the US into Canada, so he only got back to train with the team. I think on July third, so the turnaround especially for him, a guy who you know, he's dealt with his fair share of injuries at all ages So you know they? They do have to be careful with him, but I think you know I think Danny is kind of playing the long game here with Josie. Seen I think they know that they're good. I think they know that they have what it takes. Get Out of the group, and then once they do that. You know presumably Josie will enter the mixed fresh ready to go. And look at the rest of the team. At one hundred put swallow. It was one of the revelations of the League last year. Incredible talent I guess the question. Mark Right now is Oslo Piazzi designated player probably GonNa be playing on the right Kinda then like tucks inside a little bit. He's dealt with a number of injuries in recent years, but if he's healthy. He could be this kind of next difference maker that it seems like Toronto. Always has one in the tank. And who knows maybe we exit this tournament with it being him, so I don't know I kinda. I don't know if they'd be my pick to win it all but I I got a good feeling about Toronto FC. Well, you've laid out the case quite wonderfully for the my friend May I. Ask you a question before we get out of the MLS section of our full podcast. Of course, we never picked our group of death. Yeah you're right. That's a good question. Let me pull up all the do have one. I'M GONNA pull. I don't have the. Right yeah I'll pick up my phone right now. Because it kind of jumped out to me, I can see people looking at say groupie Atlanta Cincinnati Red Bulls and Columbus Group death, but I think there's like. I think Group F has that Group of death? Now I agree with you Carlos. Vail not being involved with L.. AFC diminishes them, but not to the point where they are in a relevancy. It's the IT'S L. AFC. The galaxy Houston and Portland isn't that note. Isn't that Group D? Is it. No I have I've done group D as ourselves. Sporting KC COLORADO MINNESOTA. Maybe I'm on some. Some fraud website here that has them listed incorrectly, but either way though whatever the letter is off. But I I would agree I would agree. Thanks long-awaited, hang on, hang on, hang on Oh, yeah, maybe with the group is the same sorry group. Group D then I'm looking at the website one website has it listed as a d. so okay D-, What Group has AFC L. Galaxy, Portland and Houston dining dot is my my group of my group of death. That's definitely it. It, certainly not the only difficult one. No, I would also I would also suggest I. Think Group! B. Which we have touched on Montreal Toronto. DC and New England. I. Think that one could be difficult as well Some of the dynamics of these groups like group F Seattle San Jose, Vancouver just three teams, but then you look at group with six. It's. It all feels a little bit strange kind of just like. Okay. Let's just get to the knockout portion of the tournament and by-pass this sort of. clunky confusing group stage a little bit. We are in the Nether Zone Andrew Yeah, be are but I think I think you're pretty much right. Group E. O.'s also. Cincinnati I think will be the the bottom dweller of that group, but boy that that battle there between Atlanta Columbus and the red bull staff could be really interesting. Columbus got better during the offseason. season. Lucas Celerion. That's interested in Atlanta. Maybe maybe these teams feel like Atlanta is a little bit ripe for the taking with Joseph Martinez, not there with Julian wrestle gone so. That one that's an interesting group to that's intriguing I. Didn't I didn't listen to the podcast myself, but I saw it noted on twitter that the extra time guys you MLS's podcast Those guys had red bulls finishing in the bottom of Groupie, really really below Cincinnati. Yes. Which? Might be over excitement on the Cincinnati signings and the new manager bounce from Yup sh Tom. But I can't see it I. Think the Red Bulls, even when they're average like their their ability to confound, and they've also got like whereas Cincinnati. I don't know what their identity is except leaking goals. The Red Bull is definitely have. An identity as a team. Going back years. From manager to manager, that's fairly consistent, but it's GonNa. Be Interesting. Yeah, well here we go all right I'm feeling good I'm feeling ready. I'm excited. You can catch all this on ESPN family of networks. And we'll obviously be talking all about it. As the tournament goes along, I'll tell you what another quick break! We'll be right back EP. Lots of stuff to get to USA last week. was boy wonder he's back? Don't go anywhere. Hiring can be difficult if you're a company. That's currently trying to hire you. 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No. That doesn't sound like you at all. Times all right here we go. EP L. Let's start Jj earlier today Chelsea. They bounced back from the West hand debacle with a three nil over Wofford, and then they followed it up today with a a really really enjoyable game win over Crystal Palace, boy, I thought Crystal Palace. We're GONNA score the end of that game hitting the inside of the post deep in stoppage time. It just felt like the. If that game was like three minutes longer, it felt like they scored two more goals. They felt terrible for. When it ended. A, couple of things we'll get to pull a second. The first goal that Chelsea scored. This'll be quick. so willion takes it. Beats Gary Hill goes down with a look to be a hamstring injury. And he you know he plays it into Olivier Giroud taps home Chelsea. GO UP ONE NIL and. I wasn't really watching it with volume so I couldn't quite tell, but it appeared the crystal palace players were really really angry with William for continuing to play there. And I. Just thought you have got to be kidding me like. They are deep attack. He is basically in the eighteen yard box, and there's no one really between him and the keeper, and also it's not like William Soul Him. Go over. William was gone past him. You know it's not it's right, right? It's It was never going to be the wonderful moment of Paulo Kanye catching the ball, and pointing at at at the prone goalkeeper on the ground and saying hey, hey, guys, come on. Some things are bigger than football. It's never gonNA be that right. Yeah, and also to not only was he passed, and but even if he saw Cape Cod at the corner of his eye. Go down. The William to know that this is a serious injury guy. You know what I don't think it was even I. Don't think it was even brought up in the Post Macho. Only anyone talked about it I'm kind of just making this into. An issue. When do you know what it is? Andrew, it's just like you're. Just conceded. What watch the reaction of all players when they've just conceded, not all players, but manny players are looking around for a scapegoat are they're looking around for a way out? Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, and in fairness to Crystal Palace. I didn't hear a peep about it afterwards. I think it was just kind of like obligatory light, making gestures, and hoping maybe that'll come back in their favor later. Then the second goal happened. Oh my God Kristen Pula said. I even feel like as somebody who who has watched. I feel like pretty much his whole career. I even feel like from his standards with the US men's national team, where even now starting to see a different? Pure set like this. He's he I think he's the best player on the team and it's not like Clinton with Fulham like this is top four contending Champions League place, Chelsea and he every time he touches the ball. The word that I keep hearing that we've always heard referred to him, but now you're really seeing it directs always pushing play forward all immediately he comes on. On. The ball and defenders are on their heels. They are scared of this guy. I mean this is. He is turning heads JJ. This is not just like American fans losing their minds over an American player playing well. This is a guy who is catching the I I gotta believe of Fans in England offense around the world with how he's been playing since this restart. Dot Goal to me was very interesting and I just Wanna I just WANNA break it down for people because. It's so good in its execution that when he's taken on the last defender who was either ward or MacArthur, I. Don't know who it was, so he gets the ball to the left. Inside the penalty box and the best thing he does Andrew his one of the most difficult things to do. He shuffles the ball onto his weaker left for, but what he does. Is the shuffle the the way he slides it onto his onto his left foot. Is One part of a two parent almost singular motion because when he shuffles onto his left foot, there's no massive backswing. He gets the shot off really quickly, really fast and with huge power, and it's flashed past the goalkeeper. In record time, so the the defender is completely put off by the quick touch onto the left and he doesn't have a chance to recover. The goalkeeper review have a chance to get set, even though it's on that right on site and the ball is passed him in an instant. There's no back swing nothing. It was absolutely brilliant. Now it's funny. I was watching it and I was screaming. What a great goal! And then I heard Ian Darke. Who was on commentary for bt? Sport in dark said always near later on the repay said he's nearly ripped the net off. He's hit it so hard Sola backswing on the week or site. nother thing that's interesting for me was. They had been doubling open him. In that first half. It'd be MacArthur. Ward, but at that moment that D. Player who was sitting in who really should have read that ball across tried to get back and help was Wilfred Zyppah. Winfrey's I wanted nothing to do with it nothing. He didn't even make an attempt at a run to get back, so was purely sick. Isolated One v one in the box, and as Frank Lampard notes here the big thing about Christian Pulisic now for him at least is that he's added end-product. Goals from Christian. PULISIC tonight. Just highly pull. Together. To play, is he proving to be in this? Re still tries to. Him because he's got great talent. and. earlier in the. Digital conditions hadn't really had a bright and early in the season. Tight rope I really well for us, and now he's he's not. He's game on another level, not just in Harissa gone by paper products in know if you look around top. Tacking implies in the school goes. To Win Games. and. He's doing that so I'm delighted with. I think it's pretty clear what was missing. Early on I was happy with his performances, I he was contributing but lampard. Really wants stop player. I think Lampard Andrew going. WanNa Front three. However, he formulates that that's GonNa Score. Goals ally Liverpool are in that mold, so it's going to be Puta sick verner. And someone else and goals are what's going to be the key metric for Lampert from what I gather. They're also straight after that was funny. He's just scored and he's. He's on a run again and he takes off. He takes on. WHO's defending now skips pasajes. Zach wants nothing to do with it and you just see Joel. Awards face Joe Award is on not again fit. And he goes password and war. Just hack them down. Just tax them down. Because at that point, there was nothing left to do when he's running in space was an interesting point that That was made by. WHO's ex Chelsea pair that I'm always quoting He's a Oh, my God my blanking on his name. Oh for God's sake is ridiculous pat. Nevin Evan was saying that now. What's happening with? Pulitzer is that he's. He's running players and he's running outpace. and. That is just that's such. A devastating thing is not getting the ball stationary. He is doing what hazard was doing and going at defenders, outpace. It's a nightmare. It's an absolute nightmare for them. Yes, you can tell this guy. We've seen it the last couple of weeks. This guy's going to draw a lot of penalties because he's just he's. What can you do? What can you do in those scenarios? The best you can try and do is to jockey and show him insight so angry your body, so you're bringing them into field into traffic. That's the best you can do and even there. He still very dangerous. It's. A player like Beulah sick in this form for defenders is a nightmare. To be honest with you, joy war did the right thing. Try and boom early. Try and put them off a bit. Yeah I guess so I. Mean This Guy Right now. It's a goal or an assist or drawn penalty. It's every game now. This is as American fan. This is truly truly fun to watch before we get before we get off this Yeah, the would free. scored. Like it's a brilliant strike from about. Twenty five yards out absolute leathers it, but we're looking at this Chelsea team going forward Andrew and I know. Maybe this goal isn't the best example, but it certainly an example kappa a Rita Bala got just. Diving under the ball. The ball is is coming very centrally, and he tries to dive to his left and Pam it. Over the bar with his right didn't get anywhere near the ball. He's diving under the flight of the ball. And you can see Andrew why Chelsea have signed Willie Caballero for another season. Yeah, although I've Seen Caballero do that to wasn't a copy Arrow in net for the. Christian. Erickson goal that will look almost exactly like that the margin the situation Chelsea in no with sorts inexpensive goalkeeper. What was it seventy million the pit firm? Another I mean he hasn't been good any his shot percentage. His percentage shot saved is not good. And even in Games, you just watch them in your like. Don't fancy in right now. I I don't disagree. Certainly, let's see. Let's go through some of these quickly now. Tottenham Everton yesterday, not a ton to say about the actual game itself. It was first half was okay. Second half was was a bit of a tough watch. the winning goal comes on an own-goal. The only thing I'll say about that I feel like we put some kind of jinx on Michael, Keane like right after we said how good he's been lately now known anything wrong, but like no one wants to see their name up their own goal in defeat, right? That's a bad feeling, and I feel partly responsible the other thing though. So, on for Tottenham on watching that the Everton game, and especially in the first half I like what they did, and it's what led to the goal, because it's what they didn't do against Sheffield United, when Sheffield united packed in tight against Tottenham. Spurs just. Pass it around. Pass it around playing across its repelled by Sheffield Defense, and that was the whole game. At least it seemed like a- against Everton. They came up with this mentality of we're going to try to at least fire shots on net, and even if they don't each the net, you don't know what kind of bounce it can take like. Even before the own goal I immediately before that happened. I forget who it was son. Somebody took a shot, and it took an awkward deflection. Maybe it was lucas more. More and it got Kinda got bounced back out. And then that's what leads to the shot that created the own goal so sometimes. I think just just do that like even if shots are getting blocked, you don't always know which way the ball's GonNa roll rather than just continuously watching one ball after another one cross after another get knocked clear try something different, a kind of wished the Tottenham had at least try that again Sheffield United, and they did it against Everton and got them the goal that won the game. But that's not even really. The story the story. After this one was the son. Hugo lorries coming together at the half, and I think it was particularly jarring to see. Because, it's two guys that I think are are viewed as pretty affable figures within. The Tottenham World I mean son is just like one of the most Smiley footballers you see and Hugo reese longtime captain. It's just you know. He's fiery, but I. don't know it's not really a side of. That I've seen before. I texted you afterwards. I'm like okay like I. don't even know how to feel about this, so I need your help. Did son do anything so egregious from from the clips that we saw that would have led to Hugo Luiz acting that way and I and I kind of qualified my message to you by saying I ask you this knowing anything that's going on behind the scenes. And then what you're, your response was essentially what? My response was it. Look did sawn bust a gut to get back, not really, but he kind kinda passed him on. It wasn't like there was nobody tracking I. Think it was came went with a little bit on. The shot flashed wide. It was the kind of thing you could mention. In the locker room, it did not require public and immediate anger from lorries right, which is what I thought, too, and then Josie Marino spoke. Here's A. he said a lot, but here's I guess what I pulled out to be kind of the most important part of his quote on this incident, he said quote. It is beautiful. Probably it is a consequence of our meetings. You want to blame somebody for that. It's me I was critical. My boys because they are not in my opinion, critical enough of each other. After I heard that I thought. That is peak Marino. WHO's just like watching his players fight? And he's just sitting there like clapping and applauding and cheering it on. It's like boy fights and arrested development. When like when like George blue is like cheering on videotaping as his funds, Kelly sunscreen each other but like. But. Then I kinda thought more about and I was like you know what if we are going to get this manager a chance? He does need to be able to instill his kind of culture, and if he believes that there needs to be more on field accountability, because what if we all said about Tottenham over the past? Few months several months. They've they've looked lifeless. There's this feeling on there on the field that it's almost like guys don't care that. They're going through the motions and Marino is not. He's just not going to accept that for better or worse, and maybe this is a situation where you would say it's for worse but you know what like I think. I think generally okay with it, and and part of that is also not just wanted to see more fire from this club that we hadn't seen, but it's also the way that sun and the reason themselves handled it because these guys have been there. They've been through the wars with this club together. They know each other I'm sure extremely well. What did they do? Do you need caught the glimpse of them coming out of the tunnel at halftime. They gave each other hog. Sun Smiles. They're good at the game. What happens, the camera catches Hugo race goes right up to sun and picks them up and gives them like a bear. Hug like I think they're good I think there was an incident. Maybe it should have been public. Their manager is seemingly encouraging the stuff Larissa's the captain. He wants to set. That tone even overreacted. He's trying to show some fire so. I know, call me a spurs home. Call Me Josie Marino fan boy in this specific incident, but. After, Kinda gathering more more context on it. I'm fine with it. Look I don't think there's a whole lot in it. I was just a little bit surprised. It happened on the field to be honest and it was. In a game that was dreadful. Even Marino said it was not. It was not pretty to watch, nor was it a great performance by spurs after the defeat to Sheffield united where so many things went wrong. It was good to get three points. Nothing else to say if it happens again. Then, it will become noteworthy. Otherwise I I would agree with while Craig Burley says this thing happens all the time regularly and training sessions regularly behind the scenes. The only thing was that we got to see this time. That's it end off. Yup. Policy Jj Manchester United they blast. Pass reeling. Born who are really in a bad way I. Think one of the emerging storylines of this restart in addition to Christian. Pulisic, it's gotTa be Mason Greenwood. And and what he's done for them and I just wonder argue buying right now what you're seeing from him as a long solution as a as a marquee striker for this club. Very much so I absolutely am His ability get good shots on goal Andrew his movement, the way links in with this team. He's an absolute find for united and. Look definitely you want to see more of You know their last of games have being how how should we put a comfortable for united to kind of get into a rhythm, but that site I mean there was many times prior to this where they weren't in a rhythm where they were playing teams, they should be beaten and they look really poor. He looks great, and he's part of a of an emerging from three and united are a really really lucky It's interesting. What all going to social how to say. About. You know in the context of. I mean he didn't name check Holland himself, but like Mark Ogden's pace mark writes Brochure Dortmund. Eventually won the race for Holland, but the emergence of the eight year old Greenwood as one of Europe's hottest showing striker's means united may not be so dismayed, and this is what soldier said. We didn't find the right one outside of our club. When asked about missing all when he was asked about missing out on Holland, he did you did say specifically, but we know have mason and that kind of says. Says a lot about the the confidence that there is into club about what this this player can achieve and look watching him. I'm very impressed. I spoke to a Liverpool fan over the weekend. and. Not Worry but with disappointment. United of look really good over the last few games is like Yep. Those those players look under the. We've said it before Andrew Him. Never. Mind Design and Bruno Fernandez the players that have committed to the ranks in the club right now Rashford. Greenwood's and while obviously they signed Marciano. was you know he hasn't always been a hit? It looks good. Yeah, it does that Mark Ogden PC reference was. It was really good. What was eye opening to me? was how we talked about this guy who has been identified like Sir Alex Ferguson a couple years ago. I think it was was talking about this guy as being someone to keep an eye on. I took this out of the the peace. Specifically, Moggie said sources have told ESPN. That's soul. Shire was so convinced by greenwood who was seventeen? When social arrive as manager? He felt he could offload role. Maluku and Alexis, Sanchez enhance young striker the chance to stake his claim for a place in the first team. I mean what an impression he must have made. If at seventeen years old Mkaku Gone Sanchez gone. We've got a seventeen year old. Who's never done anything at this level, but I believe. Believe so much in that guy that I think we can get rid of some of these high priced strikers I. Mean Yeah, if if you remember Alexis answers was planned for Manchester United that what that was not that was not a hard decision to make and moving onto any one was better than that Lukaku obviously maybe a little bit harder. Not Sanchez but it's. It's going well for a kid. That's for sure. A couple of quick ones here Arsenal in Leicester. City one one. Today it. Arsenals goal was. When they're right in attack. It looks good. You know we haven't seen a ton of SABINAS. The season because of his injury, but he played in a great ball. All yeah, great ball to soccer, who now also looks like a great player? He plays it in to a Balmy Yang I mean suddenly we've always said Arsenal attack are going to be a dangerous team and they are showing it right now. Absolutely. Disappointing result in the end. If you watch that first half Andrew Okay Lester had a goal ruled out that I taught Wu was possibly legit, but outside of that that first half in particular and maybe twenty minutes of the second-half. Arsenal should have been ahead. They should have been home and hosed looked like. Dare say at Arsenal of old and the ball from Tobias Saka Saka, being absolutely brilliant, a sinus contract which we talked about. Yeah, and they are desperate to get so bias to to to work out an extension to stay at the club and our Ted is working on that wounded and used all You'll notice material gone doozy, not in the squad again. Apparently conducive, he has not trained with the first team squad saints the Brighton Away match the to defeat at Brighton. And doesn't matter if he's considered a young talent are Ted is done Woodham and to move him on. That I didn't say I. Talk in Doozy will be a part of our Ted plans at least in the short term. And that's not the case now they're. They're desperate to get to offload according to the. Paper's yeah and a good win for them over the weekend against wolves, top fourteen huge loss for for wolves, but yeah. Making Wolves game tomorrow, even more important, Yup and then one more here. I don't have really anything to say about it Manchester City. I'll just shrug my shoulders. They lose to Southampton on a crazy goal. chipping the keeper from how many yards out when you say that was like thirty five forty something like that, but like you look at Man, city seventy four percent possession, twenty six shots, and just nothing to show for What did you know? John was really interesting. The person to deliver the bollocking to are not to be Adams but to Zintchenko. After he gave the ball away in the lead up to that goal after he wasn't sharp of turning and playing, the past was not pep guardiola but rather writing starling. Sterling tore into Janko afterwards like talk about asking for responsibility on the pitch. I mean marina would that was beautiful, too? You're not kidding. Finish. What's that I was such a great finish that that was my favorite goal of the weekend the way. The ways just caught. The ball is perfect, and put that little bit of Carolina Lovely Goal Yeah. We've had some like considering. People have said that the Games haven't been great out of the restart I would say we've had some really good individual goals. Since play resumed. What's been your favorite? That one that you just said is definitely up there Some of the others now I'm drawing a blank I mean CZAJA's from today would be up there. You might say that was more on a keeper, but watching it in real time it was one of those like scream out loud moments. Might Mine nettles volley versus West Ham okay. That was all that was also great when I also thought then she'll wells. that. Was Nice Yeah. Any of any of Liverpool's four against Downton. We're just beauties YEP, Let's take another quick break. When we come back. It is the it is the return jj of red card, and man of the match very excited about this. You can forward to it. Don't go anywhere. Back now cough side Dj. Let's go right into it. Red Card tweet tweet. Can I go I hear you man, so we were just talking about Chelsea meant to bring this up on our last podcast and I didn't saw. Bring it up now. JJ. Those new kits. Those new kits I don't I don't like him and IT'S A. It's a shame. Today was our our first look at the their away kit and I, actually really like the color of the away kit for Chelsea, but I can't put my finger on what it is, but for some reason that number three on the front, just like I don't know it just seems weird to me. I guess it only works for Marcus Alonzo, but like it just seems it seems odd and I don't mean to take a shot at the company. It's Three UK telecommunications company Yeah and they sponsored the Irish national team, which is the only national team? That sells their Jersey with a shirt sponsor I. Love that I know you. We want to hear something I've got this lovely. The you're the Umbro Euro 2016. Ireland Jersey is just beautiful and I bought us. And this big plastic three in the middle of the chest, so I'm taking it to a Taylor to have it removed. Look at it anymore. It's an once I saw it on, Chelsea, Jersey that was it. Yeah I didn't like it either Chris. Wright wrote a little bit about the kit. FOR ESPN AFC said. The new kid is inspired by London's proud history of fine tailoring with a subtle herringbone design, helping to emphasize the blues bold new sponsor logo West Ham were on it. They they tweeted from their team account. Three huge points get in. There seemed like there was an emphasis on the three. I have a feeling. They won't be the last team to do that So I'll give them this reading a little more bad at football London and they said they said there that the kid is made from one hundred percent recycled materials, including love that good recycled plastic bottles, so I don't. I don't mind the kids. It's. The kit sponsor just. Throws it out of whack. Yeah, by the way when I was looking this up a couple of other kids that have leaked. That I'm GonNa just tell people to Google, because actually pretty nice I xe away. Check it out. It's different kind of cool and also Manchester United's Home Jersey. There's something like there's like this subtle connor leg. I don't even have to describe it. When you look at it, you'll see I. I kinda like their Jersey to. You're talking about the gray. I xe away. Yeah, it's gorgeous domesticated. It's the kid of the season. It's wonderful. So there you go where you got. My required Lots Yours Patrick was sent off for biting late on in a loss at Lecce. That Delta massive blow to their title, hopes defender Patriots was shown a straight red card for biting. Lech is Giulio dotty. On the arm injury time Philippi say. CDL has scored five minute opener for the visitors but Kumara back headed in Filippo Falco's crossed eleven level it up on thirty minutes, and struggling Lecce completed the turnaround after halftime as defender Fabio Lucianne headed in from a corner now that should have been that in terms of Latinos Syria. Ambitions, but in a bit of a cracker today. Milan AC Milan that is beat you. ventas four two at the San. Zero, so the standings right? No mean it's still the seven points equal on games. Matches played thirty one games played it seventy five points to sixty eight. Laps your cam out of the break. They were kind of hoping that they would be the team that could maybe. Run Juventus close, but it hasn't really worked out that way. They've lost at Let me, see who they've lost. They've lost a Atalanta and Milan, so it's. Kinda dented their hopes, but maybe there's a lifeline even though they lost today. Maybe there is a lifeline and we may yet have a tight race andrew although. Nah probably not sell glazed it. I don't know that doesn't yeah. I'm trying to get excited Bush. Keep trying but see now man-of-the-match. Let's see so I I went with this Jj. There were a lot of nerves. We talked about this before when play resumed in the Premier League. Like were they really ready? Kinda, like what we're grappling with here with MLS, while the latest round of testing for coronavirus in England with the Premier League specifically came back yesterday, one, one, thousand, nine, hundred and seventy three tests were conducted zero zero positives now. No I don't know if that's luck. I. Don't know if it's players and teams. Doing the right thing I don't know if it's England as a whole doing the right things, but the bottom line is this on the most important thing. When it was announced that the League was coming back was everyone's health, and so with these latest results we can at least feel good about the protocols that have been put into place and the decision that was made to resume plane. I mean remember. We're talking about guys like routines Sterling Danny rose? Guys were openly concerned about their health, and out kind of being thrust into this and not sure if they were ready so this this has to be viewed as as it has encouraging extremely encouraging what I would say though to this is, don't get cocky like. Don't let this this positive result. Change your behavior unfortunately. I feel like that's sometimes. It's human nature. People get a little careless They think everything's fine I mean we're not necessarily out of the woods yet. so just kind of keep doing what you're doing, you know hopefully the focus remains on soccer rather than the risks of the soccer players being out there, so that's all that I was like. Wow, that's that is A. That is a good story that is very. It's a great story on I'd love to think that it's just the rigor of the primarily testing and the social distancing that they've. That they've done around the project restart. That's really helped those figures to be unbelievably good because. I don't know. Maybe it's still if we can apply in in society of course stuff, we can apply in society that can continue to to. To you know, fight this this disease. What do you have? Your member genial. Yup played for Olympic. You do. Yeah, he's talk. In the video game. His free kicks. Yeah, I mean thinking might be the best free kick taker I've ever seen. Like he was, he was unbelievably accurate. He's up there with your. What a statement to throw out there at the end of the podcast. I'm trying to think now a pure low. Pure does up there. Beckham is certainly over the top. In higher up there, I think who else would be up there. I'd have to. I'd have to think more about that, but when I think about your Janina. I think about those free kicks anyway. He's been talking to Seattle Rebelo in The Guardian. Andrew and he's been talking about a lot of the the issues that are going on. In football right now in terms of players, speaking out about site issues, and there's just some interesting thoughts. He has about the black lives movement, and how it's being such, a racism has been such an issue in in Brazil and he gets very emotional in this piece, I will tweet out the link to the Guardian piece, but our conversation turns to the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on the twenty. Twenty fifth of May and the black lives matter movement more than half the Brazilian population devises black, and the country has had several cases similar to that of floyd including your pet jural. A fourteen year, old boy, killed by Brazilian police in June are Aga- Felix was only eight years old when he was shot in the back by police and the Real Favila in September twenty nineteen. She led her died. This is a genial speaking. Now this is a clear racism. A confirmation of the kind of violent politics. We have had an country at the moment. How was it possible for an eight year old child to be shot by police like happened last year in the complex the Alamo, how is it possible to live after that unbelievable look at George Floyd, he couldn't breathe. He is a human being. I can't imagine how the police can do that. It's racism and very very sad. No Janina is the Director of Sport at Olympic Legionnaire Right now, and I just read his words, and he actually has to stop during the interview the. Tiago Rabelo says how Janina gets really. Emotional, and Christ, but the point about it is as our ever been a time where players current players pass players, people involved in football have ever spoken out so much on social issues I don't think I've ever heard it before now fort while all the same kind of enclosed environment It's amazing and it's it's I think when it's. The biggest is the biggest cultural movement in the world is to think people talk about the most, and surely surely something good can come from people of influence in football, talking about these issues I. Hope so certainly hope so at least awareness. Yeah, I'll tell you why. Let's take one more break. We'll come back after that and wrap things up. Don't go anywhere. Back now Z. Wind it down. CAUGHT OFFSIDE JJ one year ago today. Guesses. No, but happened A couple of things actually The US women defeated the Netherlands to knelt. World Cup that was a year ago today. WHOA chime flies, which means that was also the same day of the Gold Cup final that the remember the morning. You have the US women. World Cup final in and I hung out all day, and then watch the Gold Cup final at night. That was like a an eighteen hours a day of like that was a good day. Well, yeah, the ending wasn't great, but the women winning the World Cup that day was awesome and didn't. Didn't we catch the Copa America final as well. Oh yeah, that's right. That was also between. One day. Yeah, that was something. Like hearing that it's the one year anniversary I was thinking back about that like the legacy of that women's team. I know a lot of people talk about their brashness and all that I think for me in the end the thing that like here. We are a year later. What I think about most I think. It's kind of what I talk about that same day. Roosevelt like I really feel like we have this new. Superstar like truly world-class superstar. That's going to be this unbelievable player for years to come. And I thought it was Kinda like L. coordinated that day. She scored one of the two goals. And here we are year later. I feel like she's. Just love watching her play I'm going to watch in. The Challenge Cup is well. Underrated, never talked about she super-quick. Yes, she ghosts, she goes players, runabout Pulitzer running up there as Roosevelt is the exact same thing. And one other thing I wanted to mention this was Kinda my like man of the match, honorable mention, but I'll just say now bar Munich four to over Beyer Leverkusen to win the German Cup. This team is a force right now. This is this is crazy. This unbeaten streak that they're on. You know soon enough. Domestic plays GONNA die down, and we'll have the Champions League just thrown back at us and I wonder you know we've said for a lot of the season that we really are having a hard time identifying the true Champions League favorites Barcelona. Have you know haven't looked on it at times like I wonder. Maybe it's maybe it's Byron like maybe that team right now the way they're playing leading. Unbelievable Funds Davies we've talked about. It. Right. Now Byron are such a role. It's hard to believe Andrew that. On the second of November twenty, nineteen earlier in the season. They got battered five one by Eintracht Frankfurt. Destroyed that must have been the low point. And then Hansi flick is come in and. Just the way they play, Andrew. It's. The hardest thing you're talking to this morning and the hardest thing he said for manager to do is to comb in an changed the style of play. Implement your style of play and still be competitive matches with the players. You've got just dealing with what you had. Changed the direction of a team whilst also being competitive Games Hansie Flick has done that. It's been amazing. It really has yet so there you go man. What a show! Oh my guy! We covered really covered a lot today. 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Caught Offside: MLS Is Back and EPL continues

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Caught Offside: MLS Is Back and EPL continues

"KABADDI. Yes hold upside. Basement inside of my. Jury is home and from an apartment in Brooklyn and who? Jj Benny what's up? Goodman however you heard a bit of did today. Sure did we'll talk about that in a SEC. We should tell people i. Lots of EPL action yesterday today. Talk about all that. Tottenham players fighting it. Right there in front of us on the Field Christian Pulisic, continuing to do so many great things for Chelsea it's making an American soccer fan who usually hates Chelsea feel very conflicted inside watching their games mls is about to be back as they tell you in the name of the tournament, and the less is back. We're GONNA talk with stepping over sorrow, who is down there for ESPN he's. He's inside the bubble. We're GONNA talk with him about everything going on down there what it's been like what the reaction to FC Dallas and their departure was live. What it's been like for Nashville. Who are now kind of going through a similar situation to Dallas? Although they're still in tournament, there's a lot to talk about. We'll do our own soccer like actual soccer conversation about mls back. And Red Cards man-of-the-match is back as well so There's there's really a lot to get to on this podcast I'm very excited about it. Steph join us in a few minutes be. I had a weird day today. So like you know we talked about. We'd actually didn't mention it on the last podcast, but I had my my sister's wedding and it was, it was great. You know is kind of like. Obviously, it was different. Not The wedding that they were planning to have they were planning on having a conventional wedding with a lot of people in friends and at a reception hall, and all that stuff and Corona viruses obviously made it, so that's not the case, and so I wound up officiating it, and I was really happy with with how everything went. Really it was. It was a great time, but my wife and I in the aftermath of it. No! It was the first time that we had kind of like. Open ourselves up. We have been like we been on strip lockdown. We have been militant with how we've handled ourselves during this, so I I'm where we were like opened up to like twenty people and whoever they've been. You Know Pailin around with or whatever like who knows. How big are circle just got in this one event and so after. I don't know people like in our head or what? We didn't have fevers, but little bit a sore throat, real really tired. Again probably nothing probably allergies, but we were just like you know what there's a testing site right near us it's it's free to go. It's super convenient. It's a drive through. We were like. Let's just make an appointment and we'll just go, so we did today. I would say a couple of things about it. for anyone that has not gotten it done. like I said it is easy like I at least here in New York because I think calmed down in terms of people who who have corona virus I think they have it I don't want to speak for other parts of the country that are going through it in a bad way right now. We just drove right in, did it? One thing about it. It was actually more uncomfortable than what I was expecting. That thing is up there man like. and. They keep it up there for six seconds in each nostril. It was true uncomfortable. It's even worse when you showed up without any pants or this is. This is your nose. Right Oh misinformation. But I will say this though it felt like I. Did everything wrong when I got there? Well I pulled up, and immediately I roll the window down, and there was a minor freak out from the woman who came to my car. No windows up windows up I, said Oh my God. Like I'm sorry. I don't want to do anything wrong here. It all feels very official and serious. The entered the car via the tailpipe. So windows windows up was afterwards I was. was there a sign that I see that? But whatever so then that was the first checkpoint, and then already now on nervous because I'm. I'm kind of over one. And so then I pull into the second checkpoint where they actually conduct the tests, and so I'm sitting there and you know you and I. JJ! Talk all the time about our appreciation of history. And so I'm not trying to not saying this to trivialize anything. I'm actually saying this to kind of like. Explain myself a little bit. When I was sitting there in this tent, waiting for this kind of like the the history of the moment were in sort, hit me and I was like you know here. We are like this people in. If you you've seen et before right, you know the end of et like the people in those kinds of suits. They're all around. US suits like this. This is surreal moment in in American. Life in global life, and like Jack and Luke. My kids are going to be learning about this in school in ten years fifteen years. Whatever it is, and so I was like you know what I kind of want to document this, so put up the phone very nonchalant. Click picture on second freakout. Excuse me sir, sir. What. What Oh my God what? There's no flash. Photography, here, you need to delete that photo immediately and I saw I. Right away got rid of it and I was just like how many more things can I screw up? This, is so you? You're going to have a swab. Stuck up your nose. Right check if you've got a disease. And you think you're Louis through. Like I'm not trying to on journalist out there like you're you're you're ridiculous, but I didn't see any signs to suggest that you shouldn't is a commonly known thing. I don't know so. I felt like just like completely butchered it. I felt so bad as I left that like these doctors like the last thing they probably want is like. Their lives have been so difficult having to do this day in day out and put themselves at risk. Here's this buffoon. Roland is windows down. He's taking pictures and like an afterward when she came over to. Uh, she's like. Is this your first test and I was like? Yeah, we we kind of circle up a little bit at a wedding and afterwards. Afterwards Amanda was sorry. Sorry you said like that volunteered that I went wedding and our circles were opened up a bit and afterwards Amanda was like. Why would you tell them that? That is probably the last thing that they want to hear. The people are doing and I will let it dry. He's more another buffoon who can't stick by the rules. I know, but I try to justify as. As being like wool. You're right, but I'm also hopefully. She heard me say that thought. Oh, well, these people are very responsible. They attended a wedding and the first thing they did afterwards was come. Get a test to make sure they don't have it in spread it to more people, so I think I could salvage that one, but after I left, I just felt so bad handled everything wrong. Hopefully. Obviously, we don't have it. I don't think we do it was. A hope you tell the truth to Jack and Luke, the time comes. What was the? What was the pandemic like of Twenty Twenty? What was it like getting tested Papa and I hope you honestly go well, son. It was as most things are in my life. Kind of awkward. and. I- bungled every step of along the way and a little bit embarrassing, too. So yeah, so that's that was my day today. But should we get into some of the some of the soccer there? I think we should do that. Yeah, so we're GONNA. Talk with a for officer a moment. WHO's down in the Orlando bubble before we get to that? MLS is back. We are on the eve of its return. By the time you're listening to this, it may have already returned. I guess we'll start with the not so fun parts. Look you kind of have to call. The tournament is not off to a great start from multiple angles obviously FC, Dallas. Being forced out of the tournament, due to an excessive number of positive tests now Nashville as C.. is kind of dealing with a similar situation, not to the extent. Of FC Dallas, they're still in the tournament, but their opening match against Chicago has been postponed. You have. Some key players who will not be taking part most notably, it's now been confirmed. We've kind of been talking about it for weeks now as if it was like common knowledge, but it's now been confirmed no Carlos Villa in the tournament for L. AFC and then Jj. Just before we went on, I was reading. One of our favorite guys rally phillips. Who's now with L.. AFC. He was on the sports bubble podcast. I don't know if you saw this quote from him, but he was talking about the tournament going on with the current climate global pandemic climate. That's going on in the US simultaneously and he says I. Don't really care how I come across here because it's no secret to me. I just think it's a little bit stupid. If I'm being honest, I just think we could have waited like the rest of the League's and you train until you're able to play and that's it. He said he goes on here I'll read a little bit more from him. He said you've taken us all to a place now in a bubble where you gotta stay in your room away from your families, you know some people got some real. Some real life issues you know to deal with and just got a go and leave your family for how long you know but I guess money talks my friend. and. I can't criticize him because it is an issue that I kinda brought up. On our last podcast, was this idea of are we sure were ready to be doing this. I still don't know the answer to that. It doesn't matter. Here, we go full steam ahead, but he raises no. I think his points that he raises valid. Of course they're violent Andrew I was reading an article today about. Sports and the idea of a bubble, and this was from April sixteenth. You can't think of it as airtight said Dr William Schaffner Vanderbilt University professor, who an expert in preventative medicine and infectious diseases because it won't be. Right so it's not possible to do this. In an airtight environment in totally safe environment, and it's definitely not possible to do it in a country that last week hit fifty thousand daily infections. Like we have not made the progress, we needed to make for Anne this to happen. With the kind of safety unsurety we would want. But what are we supposed to do? Like I think. I will I honestly believe. D- potato twelve and said was was right the other day on Sports Center. If you look at this country's approach, it's being in terms of reopening being state by state thing so how are we expected to have teams coming from across the country into a bubble who have gone through acquiring a an isolation situation, a social distancing situation that is absolutely equal together and come into this bubble. The same there was no. There was no countrywide. Universal approach to this, and what are we getting? We're getting pockets on on hot spots. In different states, and some states are further on than others and some states are way behind. and. That's just the way it is like we. We know we never set ourselves centers of up to be in a position to have sports back, but we're going to have them well. We're GONNA plow ahead. And that's it. Yeah, and look. It's all those fair like I keep wanting to compare the various sports restarts in the United States to what we've seen with the Bundesliga premier. League and we'll talk more specifically about the Premier League's restart when we get out of the match later in the show. But you really can't. You can't make the comparison like the United States. It's just such a big sprawling country. Like. It's just I. Guess for whatever reason it's just been tough to demand every part of the country to be at the same place in terms of their handle on this virus as There has been an attempt to demand. Everybody. Do the same thing that's also. Nettle Euro here, we. Are and we have some choices to make, and it looks as if we're going to go ahead and I I do understand the sentiments of Bradley Wright Phillips. But MLS. Staring at a billion dollars of lost this season anyway, and there's no point saying otherwise what he said is true. Money Matters, and they want to play the tournament. They want to have football on the field this summer, and that's what we're gonNA have starting tomorrow. I'll tell you what let's take a super quick break when we come back on the other side of it Stephan for sorrow will join us from the bubble sounds like bio dome right? Don't you picture like Paulie shore? Stephen, Baldwin to be down there. Just like hanging out like biosphere three What? I'm wearing a paulie shore shark right now to be honest with you what does that? He just the kind of thing. He wearing a Hawaiian shirt common. Guess so I. Don't really remember what he wears I. Think about it often, but it escapes me. At any rate will be back in a moment stephon. Sorrow from the bubble in Orlando will join us to kind of give us a feel what it's like down there. Don't go anywhere. America is ready to get back to work, but to win in the new economy. You need every advantage to succeed. SMART companies run on next by Oracle. 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We're talking about last, so let's actually go to the bubble. And talk with somebody. WHO's they're Kinda? Give us like the boots on the ground. Feel for how it's all been so go to Steffano sorrow. FROM ESPN WHO joins US number definite. What's up, man? How are you well? Okay, complain. We're working hard and and definitely a crazy and surreal environment that none of us ever experienced, but but we're good. Actually I've heard there renaming sportscenter to Stephanos Center. Is that true? Is what it feels like nowadays, no, no question and it's funny. Right as we were going from from the Times of quarantine, where and tons of no sports where you know. Our job is to be sportscenter. We're sports at our reporters and I was on sports in probably three times I'll last four months and just in day one I was on sportscenter five times in the day, so in one day I made up three months. Oh, it's. Definitely a crazy time man. You mentioned how the field down. There is somewhat surreal. We'll get to that set, but I guess I want to start with with like the most important topic, and that is everybody's health. I saw Noni says that he feels same inside the bubble, do you? I, do We were talking with this group by producer and my cameraman editor here that we felt safe. Since being here, we it's it's masks. At all times the only time I take up a maximum in my room or when I'm on TV and besides that I mean it's it's not. The masks have to be on at all times. There is cited for social distancing. There is set at hand sanitizer everywhere. You Go I do feel that. The Protocols put in place are are here to make the safest possible and I don't feel unsafe and I think that if you're following the rules of doing the right things and keeping your distance, and and really just being careful who you come in contact with. I feel almost safer inside. Here of all was being tested every single every other day. than have at home. The one of the grocery store are going. Anywhere at this point. The mood of the players. If you can judge it from from what you see, how would you describe it right now? So the players I understand why there is a little more anxiety amongst the players. Now I do feel. That's changed over the last couple of days when they've seen that FC, DALLAS They were able to contain. All all the positives as a grew amongst at teen, they're able to contain it to the team. Natural the same thing they're having their issues with five posits has four inclusive tests, but they're containing it and I think that with the League doing that. You're seeing players be a lot more. You know kind of a sigh of relief. If you will and now just focusing on on getting on the field, but the players are the ones that I think would be even more risk than than us, right. We don't come very close to them. Where in the same hallways, we make sure to keep distance from the players. The last thing we need is is ESPN reporter contaminates player, and he can't be on the field, and then we don't want that but they're the ones that traveling pods. Pods are they try to keep themselves to only their own teammates There are rules for ELA for the elevator. Know they don't want any. Clare's opposite teams in the elevator as well as when I'm in an elevator. They don't want players elevator so being very careful with that. They're the ones that are more at risk because they're. The ones that are traveling in positive ones are closer together and one against it. It's going to be very difficult to stop the spread amongst their own teammates. Stepping on I heard you use the word relief they're off. was that in reference to FC Dallas curious what the player reaction was to the announced that they were going to be leading. The tournament was relief was a shock was was Chris. Appointment. How was that news received? Amongst the players. Or amongst everybody down there media from other teams, I would assume the FC Dallas players were probably disappointed, but what about the product? Curious? What? The reaction was like the lease other teams that we're going to have to be playing against them. Yeah, I mean I think that there is. I think it kind of just feeling bad for the team. That can't be here to play and not being able to play a look as far as see Dallas because they're their players I think they're happy that this is the situation now. They're stuck here. They're still here. They're not going to be leaving here. Until those players that tested positive comeback with two negative tests at least two negative tests, so they're gonNA be. Be Stuck your for at least a little bit longer I did have a chance to speak to Gonzales. Head coach, Messy, Dallas that maybe a couple of hours ago, and he told me that look like soccer wasn't even on their minds. At this point their solo goal was to really try to get guys to recover and the health and safety of their players in the one coach. Who's WHO's sick and As far as their reaction I think there is relief that they're out of the situation now that off to worry about getting having to get on the field, all they're worrying about is trying to get home There's a lot of other coaches and teams that just really feel for them. Kind of just say the right things. As far as you know, we feel for you guys were here. We need to focus on us and continue to do the things that we need to do so. We don't end up in that situation. Steph. I've a question about something that I think the Bundesliga and the primarily. And LALITA got away with was the fact that for the viewer it was still the same stadium. When you come and watch the game, you could tell it with James's park or Old Trafford or wherever How visually is this tournament? GonNa look. At definitely going to be different. I will tell you this. It's GonNa be a unique viewing experience at the very least for for casual I mean I know that you guys will be watching I know that the diehard fans are gonNA. Be Watching no matter what but I feel like you for the casual viewer. We're GONNA. Have a lot of resources that we don't usually have four soccer broadcasts on ESPN and in reality on any network just Kim, one is going to have twenty cameras think about that twenty cameras for broadcast your views and perspectives that you don't usually have. There's going to be microphones embedded in the fields so the at the. The center. Circle Dobie in two microphones in the ground catching all the audio that's coming. You'll have to grow to microphones embedded in the ground in front of each of the technical areas. Thankfully, there's going to be a delay because there's going to be a lot of words that aren't allowed on national. TV But I think it's GonNa. Add a very cool perspective that now. Yes, there's not going to be a the stands rather than a Lotta virtual silence around the pitch there is not virtual Israel sign and ads around the which you would see at any normal stadium in the United States or in Europe. But I think it's going. Be a cool perspective at cool view of something where. All the resources that maybe they've wanted to use on soccer and football broadcasts that they're just not able to because of the of the environment and the stadium itself. They're going to be able to do that now and I. Think just going to be a very cool viewing experience I mean that we're not used to. Steph I wanted to ask you about you. Kind of mentioned in passing before. I wanted to go slightly deeper on the situation with Nashville saw. Their matching in Chicago has been postponed. Five players testing positive I was wondering if you'd give us a the latest on their situation and be. Can you make it clear to us kind of once, and for all if you know our players testing positive? After arriving at the bubble. Acquires, mingling, and somehow passing it within their. Is that what they're kind of Justin so? short answer is no All of the tests that have arrived and they perform contact tracing after the positive tests all the positive tests, the initial ones are all off of the plane upon arrival. We all be tested encouraging for twenty four hours, and those five positive tested natural got. We're all of them were upon arrival, so the first test that they took and then immediately quarantine. Now there's also four inconclusive tests with national, and that's why they're performing more additional testing league is said that they're going to really evaluate their participation in the tournament moving forward, depending on what happens with that additional testing. I mean that's what we all with Nashville they are. There are quarantined as well. The players who have tested positive have an isolated another wing of the hotel and the players the rest of the traveling party for national is also quarantine in their own rooms, just has had abundance of caution right because we they don't WanNa have that incubation period where they might not test positive and all of a sudden they do test positive. Then they've been walking around the hotel infecting everyone, so it goes back to what we were saying It's all about the protocols following the positive tests and they they do feel comfortable with how those protocols are working. And being able to confine it, and contain it to to the certain players that have already tested positive. I was listening to Bruce. Arena's speak just before we recorded this, and he was talking about not so much covid nineteen, his musical learn, but the heat and humidity. How bad is it down there? It's and I'm a I'm a Miami native, so I'm used to this weather, but I'll tell you what it is bad. It is Johnny degrees, his ninety percent humidity, and those nine am. Games are going to be brutal They're going to be brutal for everybody but look I've talked to players about it and talked to coach about it and you know. They're gonNA probably probably. GonNa be seeing to drink breaks rather than the one that we've been seeing in the premier league in the other leagues around the. Around Europe but Yeah I mean it's. It's something that they're is also why. The Nashville game is getting postponed wise. Some of the other Games have been postponed. They need to allow these teams time to train in. This weather was a lot of these players aren't used to this I mean they're not used to playing this type of heat this type of humidity, so it's almost an fair advantage of you. Allow San Jose has been here. Here, for twelve days already, and they've been able to train. You know. I mean how many times you've trained sometimes twice a day in the they're you know what I mean in Toronto? Just arrived yesterday in Vancouver just arrived yesterday. So that's why the need to postpone these games because they have to give him sufficient training time in this ridiculously hot weather. One thing I was kind of wondering about so this bubble atmosphere I got one of your report the other day where you kind of describe the field area as eerie in some ways and hearing it discredited has a very like Black Mirror. Feel to it I, interpreted the setting, and I'm just wondering amongst all that. are in the sense that layers are excited like A. is there a feeling of all right? Let's go. Let's go in this thing now. Does that exist in the bubble now. Yes, I think that the eerie feeling was really at the beginning. We got here the day that we got your excuse me the day before the FC Dallas News broke. The original six positive tests broke I feel like at that point. There was only about seven teams here and it was See a whole lot movement people not knowing exactly where to go what to do whether interact with or not to interact, and it was just kind of an off feeling I remember walking into the Hotel Dune. I walked into the hotel on a kind of looked around. I know was in the right place because there was a driver that was set. We couldn't even rent cars to drive to the hotel. We there was a driver set for us to be a shuttled over here and it was kind of walked in and looking around like. Find the right spot like this this. And it was and I think that that was how he then the news broke with that see Dallas had the players. Really nervous at this point, we actually were talking with Chris wanted allow ski when the news broke, and we Kinda told Chris. What Alaska about the news and they were the San Jose earthquakes were scheduled to go a mini golf outing I believe which is on the property, the canceled that and the quarantine themselves in the room and he saw everybody go in. There was nobody around the hotel for about a day and a half elway Now we're seeing kind of what. was happening national in the fact that is contained and day from games now you're seeing that enthusiast now you're seeing that energy, and that will just wanting to get out on the pitch and do what they love, and that also has come with captains and coaches, making sure that their players are doing the right thing and following the protocol, so they don't get sick and they can do what they love. Is it your sense that once we? It's just a case of getting this tournament started and once the ball gets rolling. It's going to be frank. And I know talking with people here I think that. Wednesday's the hurdle. Right at Wednesday's day-to-day. Just need to get past and. Again, does that say that there's not gonna be any more positive tests? Of course you can't just. You cannot predict that, but. I think that once they get the ball rolling and they get that first game going and we can. They can get him a little bit of a momentum going as far as houses tournaments going to go I feel like. And of course, if they stay save, this'll be something that hopefully will be in the rear premier, and they can continue to focus on the football. We continue to focus on on the Games. which is what we all want to do. Right I mean I I was at the end of the day on a report reports about sports that I've been reporting about ninety eight last week, so I'm excited to start talking soccer and I'm glad that you bring that up. Because I wanted to end on that actually get. Caught from you. Go I mean obviously. There's Tournament GonNa. Look a little bit different in terms of personnel. No, Carlos Neyla obviously no. Joseph Martinez It feels a little upper grads. With those players not being here the format being what it is to to you kind of like. Who Do you have your eye on for this tournament as who we should proceed to be the favorites? Yeah, I mean it's it's. It's difficult. Just because I think there's going to be rough, no matter what I think we've seen it. In the other leagues in Europe I've seen they've begun You've seen kind of players being a hundred percent and taking a little bit to get their legs under them. I do think that there is the league tournament is up for grabs, but I do expect there to be teams that are gonna Kinda shine, and and I do my opinion. One of the favorites might be NYC AFC I think they have a squads prepared for this type of tournament I think that they've quietly kind of under the radar become one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference and I believe that they are. are set up with their talent and with their leadership, and with their new coach right Elliott who's been who's even the too short games in the two games that we saw were very impressive. I think that that's a team that you're gonNA have to watch the east. and in the western conference I mean without difficult to to go with la of see even though they're still the betting favourite in Vegas. I'm going to PICK SEATTLE SEATTLE or their experienced, and and coming off of their tournament and winning. They're winning the MOLEST Cup. I think it's GonNa be. I think they're the team. That is most prepared to coverage which meant like this. Do you know take the punches thrown and be able to deliver some of those blows when when they need to good stuff man, we look forward to seeing more of your ordering on sportscenter. And hopefully we'll be able to catch up again as this term and actually progresses stuff to actually. Yeah, let's do it. We'll do it again. Our thanks to Steffano great information from down there Hopefully, he stays safe. Hopefully, everyone does hopefully like I asked about the excitement level. They're like this is meant to be fun. Yeah, I hope that that does return like I look at what's the point of it well. is the point but like. That's what you want this like. I've been genuinely excited as frustrating. His Tottenham matches at times like in the lead up to their games I've been so starved for sports for soccer I've been I've been truly excited for Tom you have I have really have honestly. Until the game. And then you're like. unexcited for playing this. Thursday I'm excited for the north. London Darby like I. DON'T EVEN! Like. Them to game happens in its yeah, but like not that the excitement matters and I just hope that that feeling like. I, think once. I think once what the heck was. That wouldn't ask your sirens. People are buzzing your this is believable. This is just unprofessional of no idea. What the highest order! Yeah! I know! I'm in an apartment in Brooklyn. That's how we tease the show. Andrew and sometimes things get real in Brooklyn Adler. Somebody ordered someone's someone's Bonar door to get in some kind of a deliveryman. Believable and I'm not responsible for the sirens outside. Good Lord. This is just not professors, not a professional. It's not professional I've lost my train of thought, but these are the times we live in. This is the new normal. All right here we go. Like we talked about a moment ago. We want to at least discuss a little bit of the tournament and like the soccer that we're about to see that we said is is the fun part so let's do that I've got a few questions here. We'll go over them. and hopefully we'll have you at least somewhat ready kind of a crash. Course into the MLS is back cup. And I wanted to ask you. I. Don't really have much of an answer to this, but I'm curious if you do so this tournament, this is all just like so different. And it's going to be so quick like. But it's, but we're also told that this matters. This is a trophy and the teams. Everybody wants to win. This could any coach who's like conceivably on the hot seat coming into the season. Could any coach actually lose their job with a bad showing in this tournament Andrew went back and forth on this one so so we got to realize that you know. The points accrue during this tournament in the group stage will carry on. We believe into the regular season that they're gonNA. Try and start off culminating with MLS COBB so so conceivably a bad run this. And then abide run in your regular season. I, think could get you fired, but this tournament on its own after not being able to be with your players for the last four months almost limited training in this really intense month-long tournament in with all the things that go with it in terms of the social isolation in terms of just how weird it's going to be. Like that will be outraged to sack. A manager just based on that I. Don't think they could you have to be right like? To me would feel very cruel and unfair for this to be I. Mean if the if you have a manager on the hot seat. I think it's fair if you're if it's a good team who underachieve here. I think it's fair for it to be a strike against the manager, and like if they continue to struggle during the season, you know this this is fair game to be used like. When he sits down with the sporting director of being like look, you underperformed back tournament like I. I think that's okay but I can't imagine. If like Atlanta goes out in the group stage. They're like Franklin. Have a seat. You're gone like no, no, not like that. That's is silliness. I could not imagine that so I. Think you're I, think you're you're right on that I was also. This is another thing that we talked about Steph a little bit. And I know you've been on this big time in terms of the setting in which these Games are taking you. So I was curious for you specifically on this one when you're watching these games, how long do you think it's going to take for you? To feel normal watching one of these games played. It actually it shouldn't take that long. We've kind of had that running with the Bundesliga the primarily with no find so we figured that one out and watching NWS. L. Challenge COP. Is a pretty good way to kind of hold on yourself and get yourself ready for what looks like a training ground scenario, but is actually competitive games once you see a few games Andrew. Once once you you get into the rhythm of of having no fans, and also your surrounds the people who've played fee. On most of the fief as you can night, there's like a stadium training site. That's just got the pitch, and sometimes you can put a hedge around. Are Whatever and you play on that an people who've seen that can can get something of an idea what this is going to look I, actually think. If. You get stuck into the tournament. USA Right I'm invested in. This is you should? I'm watching the nine? AM's I'm really I'M GONNA plan my day around watching MLS COOP ARE MLS is back on your hair. Call at that. No, the MLS is back. Tournament. How dare I even mentioned the cup? You'll get in on a very quick. You really will sign. are able to adapt, I agree. Like Any one of us. I feel like I've turned on ESPN NEW ORLEANS ACC network or any one of these insieme college soccer game today played in a not so different environment as the some of what you're going to be seeing with this so. Yeah it's it's weird, but I think it'll normalize for people. Quick look if I turn on my TV and I see. The gridiron imposed upon the pitch, and I see like home of the of the of the braves or something like that like a high school thing I then I would obviously be quite upset, but this is going to look like a proper soccer field. You know when you switch on the college games and you're like I'm excited to see this and you're like Oh. That's disappointing. There's an own. Never asked for that right, but This is going to look good. Yeah, one thing by the way kind of semi related so. Early on in like the pandemic when people were working from home for the first time, and and all that stuff, I saw a stat. where? Apparently there's an actual like. Quantity that you can place to how long it takes for a human being to to feel. To adapt to an abnormal situation if they're if they're in it every day, you wanNA guess how long it takes. Three three days four days. I was told three. What I saw was three weeks out. For some for something abnormal for you to adapt to it, and it feel normal if you're if you're immersed in it for three weeks, then that thing will become normal. I've I've become accustomed to the shape of your head. Version. Quick probably took about three weeks. No would your hair right now? It's it's it's not regular. Actually I don't know people. People really seem to have a problem with it. People are offended by appearance. It's it's kind of unnerving for me. Because I, kind of grown to enjoy this hair. I've never had my hair this long, but it looks fine. It's just it looks like it takes some kind of holding down. If you know what it means some of strong product, there's nothing. I don't know people's reaction to it. Heads I can tell you it hasn't hasn't been pleasant and quite. Frankly, it's kind of affected my my confidence and self esteem. All right here we go now Kinda more into like the meat and bones here Jj. I know everyone obviously wants to win. This like that's a given, but can you. I hope this makes sense. Can you think of a team that you think would like really want to win this? Well, I've I've combined that in a typically I can't answer strict question I've kind of combined it into two things I think. I think the San. Jose earthquakes would absolutely love to win this tournament and I also think that I would love them to win this tournament because they've got. You know they've got some history in MLS and the last few seasons have have not been great a really like the appointment of Matteis Meda and like his old school approach to preseason like he probably enjoys this this right now I mean. If there wasn't a pandemic, he'd have them. In the Andes Mountains doing like oxygen training, our our altitude training, or whatever it is I. I like his unique ideas like. He's old. Are I mean? Is this even old school going absolute man for man? When you don't have the ball? He just seems like a guy. Apart in this league and I know it wasn't a great introduction life. Last season was pretty open down, but but I would absolutely think that they as a as a franchise as an organization that has like this good history in s going back to the start that they would love absolutely love. To be you know? To be a cup winner here and and it might be tournament that actually suits an uber fit team a team that can handle the humidity. I've also got I know I'm returning to a theme on this podcast of late, but Chris Wanda Hausky. Imagine the ice. Of the S on this tournament for for a solid month. Wando heads into the final as top score in the tournament. It's extra time. It's one one. The ball falls to him into six hundred bucks. Let it. Go Man! No, he know what I'm saying is this time it's set up for him for redemption. That will be redemption. All will be forgotten, okay? But. I hope that he does succeed I like the guy but man. This is like four straight weeks. We brought up this this poor guy in that moment against Belgium unbelievable. He's GonNa have the eyes of the nation on him again Andrew So. All right well. Here's who I went with Jj. NYC AFC would really really love to win this boy they would like. Let's just look at at their recent. There will their whole histories recent history, but like let's look at their history last year eastern conference number one seed out in the conference semifinals OSC, two, thousand, eighteen, third in the east out in the conference, Semis, two thousand, seventeen, the two seed out in the conference semi to Columbus Twenty, sixteen again. The two seat obliterated seven nil on aggregate by Toronto in the Conference Sonny's. They're always good, but they're never for whatever reason quite good enough. To get past that second round, especially obviously tournament format. And remember last season against. Toronto at City Field, OH? What a disaster! The way the collapse laid on and Who Was it made that Taco I'm trying to was a matter. Morita. I can't even remember who made attack. Oh absolutely dreadful and Toronto scored the penalty and. Did Yeah. It was it was completely and utterly gut wrenching for them, and you know the thing with them in particular is. Why I think this, you know it feels like Stephanos, said there's a win ability here four NYC AFC them specifically as a team that could be built for this. There's a lot of cohesion in terms of players coming back from last year's top seed in the Eastern Conference, yes, it is a new manager Ronnie daily, but you'll. Maybe this break helps them in. A in in terms of him well. Maybe I don't know we'll see. We know like you know, but here's the other thing you know. They've always lived in this in this Red Bull Shadow. Know both in terms of history, and in terms of general success against one another. But like what a feeling it would be for them to get some silverware here a winnable tournament and you know there's their cross city. Rivals are still it's still alluded them for so long and NYC. There's a chance here that they could do it. I think I just on many levels this would be. This would be just something that they would love to have so yeah, and why CFC. Are I wasn't. I wasn't being ignorant by saying you know run ideas had all this time and you know to to sync with his team, I. I know I know what you're saying. But I was listening to Bruce Today and Bruce has just changed my mind on that. He said one of the big challenges is these guys will have played no meaningful games. In solon it. We don't know what we're going to get. That is true unlikely, said the weather. How fit they are? You're right like there are variables here. That are are like what if you know? A bear goes down like early in the tournament like it's hard to account for stuff like that and sadly guys are probably going to get hurt. That's that is a given. That's a given a normal season, but like this one. It feels like it's going to be even. Of a storyline, so yes, having said that all of our predictions here are are nonsense. Take the grain of salt for whatever they're worth but we thought it would still be fun to talk soccer here's your next one JJ. GimMe a team or player whatever you want that. You had a bad feeling about such a mean question. I'm going to go to Groupie. It's Atlanta Cincinnati red bows and Columbus. And FC Cincinnati, just stand out like a sore thumb looking at the group in terms of just a managers, every other manager. Frank Board Atlanta at the red, bulls Chris Armas Columbus. They have got their. Established coaches coaches with a lot of spirit experience MLS. And here we are in Cincinnati with Yep stom-. WHO's appointed joining upon Democ? and. I noise being appointed. He's been appointed because pretty I actually think he was treated unfairly at reading I thought I thought he did a really good job there. He's appointed also because this is a team that leaks goals and he's GonNa. Look to organize things. and He needs everything to Gel, he's had very little time with the squad, and he's Coleman with. I think the weakest squad in Groupie Comfortably I. Think those teams every other team so much better I. don't see how they don't take a hammering a really. Don't know if maybe if Allen Kruse hits the ground running bowl. You'RE GONNA you're. GonNa look at the new sign. Instead he's got, and they need to Gel to but Andrew ship goals last season. They'RE GONNA ship goals in this tournament, too I think I. Think they're going to struggle and it's going to be. Look. It brings the whole group collective together, but I just don't see them doing anything right now. In this tournament. FREE APP style. Yeah I I'M NOT GONNA. Argue with you on that. They would be on my list as well for me. Here I'M NOT GONNA. Take the the L. AFC bait. Even, though without fail. I still think that they're loaded. They should be one of the favorites still in my mind. I'm not GonNa Take the Atlantic nodded FC Bait even though there without Joseph Martinez after his torn ACL I, still think they're loaded in their own right, and should be considered one of the favorites in the East but I am GonNa. Go low hanging fruit, and I'm looking at you Vancouver. Oh ooh Yeah on the back of too bad seasons last year in particular. They're mad at your Marco Santos. He's been in charge of the club thirty eight games. He's won just nine of them, so already were coming from a point of this may not go great for us. And then FC Dallas drops out of the competition. In their group and you think Oh, well, who knows maybe that could wind up being some kind of escape route out of the group and into the knockout stage. But then Jj log on ESPN AFC, earlier today and you see this news that five Vancouver players will not be participating in this tournament and it's not just any players. It's bree them. In particular Lucas Cavaliers Tucson rickets and Fredy Montero. Those are three crucial players to a team that is already not. that. Highly Thought of mass bad. Yeah, so certainly reasons for for concern. is going to be trying I was going to try and be clever with you. Andrew and say that day of of the teams in MLS. Vancouver have the youngest average age at twenty four point one. Let's the average squatted, and in the heat and humidity and the games coming thick and fast. A tournament style at that would suit them, but. No. Losing quality players does not suit anybody. I curious to look up whether or not. Age is actually a factor in terms of injury rate. Like outlook, obviously a guy who's in his upper thirties, I would think is no. But like a team, whose average age is twenty, four versus a team, whose average age is twenty, six or twenty seven light? Do actually think that that makes a difference I. Don't know I. Think I would doubt between twenty four and twenty seven, so the the average young average age is twenty four point one that's Vancouver and then the elder statesman, which is not old in Portland is twenty seven point to it, I don't think it makes that much of a difference in there, but I think individually players above. To Twenty eight twenty nine mark. Not that there become more injury prone in kind of a regular week to week scenario. Where you've got games like this Komen common fast, I think maybe. Maybe with a high volume games, injuries become more of a problem I. Know a guy who I can ask about that though. What you do that I will ask him and I will report back. Sounds like a plan? All right and then one more here for you the opposite of the one we just asking me a team or player that you have a good feeling about. Again I just can't answer question in straight fashion at all. I've gone with a coach hundred. That's fine. If. Anybody knows what it's like to be a player in a tournament and win. And people are gonNA. Be Shocked that I'm going to say this, but it's teary on re. And Montreal the impact were showing signs of life owner anri before cova stroke I think when it comes in there much to my surprise, but will bolster that midfield. You've got maximum. Arruti and boy in an attack. Maybe this Montreal team will be equipped to execute on the break, because certainly what we saw in Concacaf Champions League and in the opening games of MLS was that didn't have a lot of the ball Likud contain, and they were really good on the break. Maybe they can surprise some people again. I'm looking at their average age twenty five point five. Maybe this means nothing, but they should have legs in the heat. I just have a funny feeling about Montreal and I think maybe short. Monthlong tournament I think it might suit on rate unlike they weren't. They weren't great. They had the loss to Olympia at home in the catch Z. I know they weren't perfect, but they were better than I thought they'd be. And maybe he can get something out of them, and they'll be be a surprise. They've got the Darby game with Toronto. The group as well. That's going to be interesting I. I'm going to give on break because I have not been impressed by with him as a coach. At Monaco, obviously, he had a job with the Belgian national team as a as a selector and assistant manager boat. Yeah I'M GONNA. Give them a break I. Think maybe they can do something well above. Indeed. I'll tell you what jj our Canadian. Listeners are really going to enjoy this podcast because we just advan hoover. Now you just add Montreal the team that I have a good feeling about we'll stay in. Canada will actually stay in that group and I go with Toronto City. Because I still believe that are one of the most talented clubs in the league now they have a healthy Michael Bradley back as half of our audience rolls, there is, but he is good player i. don't care what anyone says. Across this great land phones that are tuned to caught offside have been thrown out the car window. I don't care I. Will I will die on this hill that he is a is still a good player. You know r.i.p are mentioned. Whatever man. But he had ankle surgery wasn't expected to be ready for much of the season, but now with this delay. He will be ready for this oh Bradley's back. The question mark is potentially on. Josie outdoor. Greg Vanney said it seems like they're going. I saw the term load management being used Greg Vanney said that outdoors, not going to be ready for the first game. After only pretty much just recently rejoining training after coming out of the mandatory quarantine flying back into candidate, he had been allowed to train separately in Florida. And then when he rejoined team mandatory fourteen day quarantine period when you go from the US into Canada, so he only got back to train with the team. I think on July third so the turnaround especially for him a guy who you know, he's dealt with his fair share of injuries at all ages So you know they? They do have to be careful with him, but I think you know I think. Danny is kind of playing the long game here with Josie scene. I think they know that they're good I. think they know that they have what it takes. Get Out of the group, and then once they do that. You know presumably Josie will enter the mixed fresh ready to go. And look at the rest of the team at one hundred put swallow. It was one of the revelations of the League last year. Incredible talent I guess the question Mark Right now is Oslo. Piazzi designated player. Probably GonNa, be playing on the right kind then tucks inside a little bit. He's dealt with a number of injuries in recent years, but if he's healthy. He could be this kind of next difference maker that it seems like Toronto always has one in the tank. And who knows maybe we exit this tournament with it being him so I. Don't know I kinda. I don't know if they'd be my pick to win it all, but I I got a good feeling about Toronto FC well. You've laid out the case quite wonderfully for the my friend. May I? Ask You a question before we get out of the MLS section of our full podcast? Of course, we never picked our group of death. Yeah you're right. That's a good question. Let me pull up all the do have one. I'm GONNA pull I. Don't have the. I'll pick up my phone right now. Because it kind of jumped out to me, I can see people looking at say groupie Atlanta Cincinnati, Red Bulls and Columbus Group death, but I think there's like. I think group F. has that group of death now I agree with you careless, Vail, not being involved with L.. AFC diminishes them, but not to the point where they are in a relevancy. It's the IT's L. AFC the galaxy. Houston and Portland isn't that note. Isn't that Group D? Is it. No I have I've Down Group D as ourselves sporting KC COLORADO MINNESOTA. Maybe I'm on some. Some fraud website here that has them listed incorrectly, but either way though whatever the letter is off. But I I would agree. I would agree. Thanks long-awaited. Hang on, hang on, hang on Oh. Yeah, maybe the group is the same sorry group Group D then. I'm looking at the website one website. Has It listed as a D. So okay? D-? What Ever Group has AFC L. Galaxy? Portland and Houston dining dot is my my group of my group of death. That's definitely it. It. Certainly not the only difficult one, no I would also I would also suggest I think group B. which we have touched on Montreal Toronto DC and New England. I think that one could be difficult as well Some of the dynamics of these groups like group F, Seattle San Jose Vancouver, just three teams, but then you look at group with six. It's. It all feels a little bit strange kind of just like. Okay, let's just get to the knockout portion of the tournament and by-pass this sort of. Clunky, confusing group stage a little bit. We are in the Nether Zone. Andrew, yeah be are, but I think I think you're pretty much right. Group E.. O.'s also. Cincinnati I think will be the the bottom dweller of that group, but boy that that battle there between Atlanta Columbus and the red bull staff could be really interesting. Columbus got better during the offseason season. Lucas Celerion. That's interested in Atlanta. Maybe maybe these teams feel like Atlanta is a little bit ripe for the taking with. Joseph Martinez not there with Julian Wrestle gone, so. That one that's an interesting group to that's intriguing. I didn't I didn't listen to the podcast myself, but I saw it noted on twitter that the extra time. Guys you MLS podcast Those guys had red bulls finishing in the bottom of Groupie really really below Cincinnati. Yes. Which? Might be over excitement on the Cincinnati signings and the new manager bounce from Yup sh Tom. But I can't see it I think the Red Bulls, even when they're average like their their ability to confound, and they've also got like whereas Cincinnati I don't know what their identity is except leaking goals. The Red Bull is definitely have. An identity as a team. Going back years. From manager to manager. That's fairly consistent, but it's GonNa. Be Interesting. Yeah, well here we go all right I'm feeling good. I'm feeling ready. I'm excited you can catch all this on. ESPN, family of networks. And we'll obviously be talking all about it. As the tournament goes along I'll tell you what another quick break. 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This is very indepth company jargon, but we're using new podcasting software, or whatever so I don't know I hope all this hope everything comes to comes off sounding the way it's supposed to sound is what I apologize. If if everything is a mess, maybe make some better. Maybe speaking of which I meant to tell you something, you'll be very happy about this, and so we're our listeners that have been sending me angry. Tweets I think I'm getting A. A microphone. Jj so this is going to be and I think it's a quality of microphone that that is GonNa, make you sound like you're on an analog phone line. You make me sick. You wouldn't take my recommendation, so we have the same microphone. You have to try him one up me well to be honest, I think it's I think my wife has to get one for her job, so I'm going to just mooch and use it also so. I When I bought that microphone, I was like just get another one for Andrew. You should've but I thought it would be overbearing of me in the relationship. When has that ever stopped you with with an opinion of me or just like your general way that you handle me? No that doesn't sound like you at all. Times all right here we go. EP L. Let's start jj earlier today, Chelsea. They bounced back from the West hand debacle with a three nil over WOFFORD. And then they followed it up today with a a really really enjoyable game win over Crystal Palace boy I thought crystal. Palace we're GONNA score the end of that game hitting the inside of the post deep in stoppage time. It just felt like the if that game was like three minutes longer, it felt like they scored two more goals. They felt terrible for him. When it ended. A couple of things we'll get to pull a second. The first goal that Chelsea scored, this'll be quick. so willion takes it. Beats. Gary Hill goes down with a look to be a hamstring injury and he you know he plays it into. Olivier Giroud taps home Chelsea. GO UP ONE NIL and. I wasn't really watching it with volume, so I couldn't quite tell, but it appeared the Crystal Palace. Players were really really angry with William for continuing to play there. And I. Just thought have got to be kidding me like. They are deep attack. He is basically in the eighteen yard box, and there's no one really between him and the keeper, and also it's not like William Soul. Him Go over Williams gone past him. You know it's not it's right, right? It's It was never going to be the wonderful moment of Paulo Kanye catching the ball and pointing at a at the prone goalkeeper on the ground and saying hey, hey, guys, come on. Some things are bigger than football. It's never gonNA be that right. Yeah, and also to not only was he passed, but even if he saw hot at the corner of his eye, go down. To know that this is a serious injury guy. You know what I don't think it was. Even I don't think it was even brought up in the Post Macho. Only anyone talked about it. I'm kind of just making this into. An issue when you know what it is Andrew, it's just like you're. Just conceded. What watch the reaction of all players when they've just conceded, not all players, but manny players are looking around for a scapegoat, or they're looking around for a way out. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, and in fairness to Crystal Palace I didn't hear a peep about it afterwards. I think it was just kind of like obligatory light, making gestures, and hoping maybe that'll come back in their favor later. Then the second goal happened. Oh my God Kristen Pula said so I even feel like as somebody who who has watched. I feel like pretty much his whole career. I even feel like from his standards with the US men's national team where even now starting to see a different? Cure set like this. He's he I think he's the best player on the team, and it's not like Clinton with Fulham. This is top four contending Champions League, place Chelsea and he every time. He touches the ball. The word that I keep hearing that we've always heard referred to him, but now you're really seeing it directs always pushing play forward all immediately he comes on the ball and defenders are on their heels. They are scared of this guy. I mean this is. He is turning heads, JJ. This is not just like American fans losing their minds over an American player playing well. This is a guy who is catching the I. I gotTa believe of Fans in England offense around the world with how he's been playing since this restart. Dot Goal to me was very interesting and I just WanNa I. Just WanNa. Break it down for people because. It's so good in its execution that when he's taken on the last defender who was either ward or Macarthur. I don't know who it was, so he gets the ball to the left. Inside the penalty box and the best thing he does Andrew his one of the most difficult things to do. He shuffles the ball onto his weaker left for, but what he does. Is the shuffle the the way he slides it onto his onto his left foot. Is One part of a two parent almost singular motion because when he shuffles onto his left foot, there's no massive backswing. He gets the shot off really quickly, really fast with huge power, and it's flashed past the goalkeeper. In record time, so the the defender is completely put off by the quick touch onto the left and he doesn't have a chance to recover. The goalkeeper review have a chance to get set, even though it's on that right on site and the ball is passed him in an instant. There's no back swing nothing. It was absolutely brilliant. Now it's funny. I was watching it and I was screaming. What a great goal! And then I heard Ian Darke, who was on commentary for bt? Sport in dark, said always near later on on the repay said he's nearly ripped the net off. He's hit it so hard Sola backswing on the week or site nother thing that's interesting for me was. They had been doubling opened him in that first half. It'd be MacArthur Ward. But at that moment that D. Player who was sitting in who really should have read that ball across tried to get back and help was Wilfred Zyppah. Winfrey's I wanted nothing to do with it nothing. He didn't even make an attempt at a run to get back. So was purely sick, isolated one V one in the box and as Frank Lampard notes here the big thing about Christian. Pulisic now for him at least is that he's added end-product. Goals from Christian pulisic tonight just highly pull. Together To play, is he proving to be in this? Re still tries to. pull him because he's got great talent. and. earlier in the. Digital conditions hadn't really had a bright and early in the season. Tight rope. I really well for us, and now he's. He's not his game on another level, not just in Harissa gone by paper products in know if you look around at the top. Tacking implies in the boat goes. To Win Games. and. He's doing that so I'm delighted with. I think it's pretty clear what was missing early on. I was happy with his performances, I. He was contributing but Lampard. Really wants stop player. I think Lampard, Andrew, going WANNA front three. However, he formulates that that's GonNa. Score goals ally Liverpool are in that mold, so it's going to be Puta, sick verner. And someone else and goals are what's going to be the key metric for Lampert from what I gather. They're also straight after that was funny. He's just scored and he's. He's on a run again and he takes. He takes on. WHO's defending now skips pasajes. Zach wants nothing to do with it. And you just see Joel awards face. Joe Award is on not again fit. And he goes password and war. Just hack some down. Just tax them dome. Because at that point, there was nothing left to do when he's running in space was an interesting point that That was made by WHO's ex Chelsea pair that I'm always quoting He's a Oh. My God my blanking on his name. Oh for God's sake is ridiculous. Pat Nevin Evan was saying that now. What's happening with? Pulitzer is that he's he's running players and he's running outpace. And that is just that's such. A devastating thing is not getting the ball stationary. He is doing what hazard was doing and going at defenders outpace. It's a nightmare. It's an absolute nightmare for them. Yes, you can tell this guy. We've seen it the last couple of weeks. This guy's going to draw a lot of penalties because he's just he's. What can you do? What can you do those scenarios? The best you can try and do is to jockey and show him insight so angry your body, so you're bringing them into field into traffic. That's the best you can do and even there. He still very dangerous. It's. A player like Beulah sick in this form for defenders is a nightmare. To be honest with you, joy war did the right thing. Try, and boom early try and put them off a bit. Yeah. I guess so I. Mean This Guy Right now? It's a goal or an assist or drawn penalty. It's every game now. This is as American fan. This is truly truly fun to watch before we get before we get off this Yeah, the would free. scored. Like it's a brilliant strike from about. Twenty five yards out, absolutely leathers it, but we're looking at this Chelsea team going forward Andrew and I know maybe this goal isn't the best example, but it certainly an example kappa a Rita Bala got just. Diving under the ball. The ball is is coming very centrally, and he tries to dive to his left and Pam it. Over the bar with his right didn't get anywhere near the ball. He's diving under the flight of the ball. And you can see Andrew why Chelsea signed Willie Caballero for another season. Yeah, although I've Seen Caballero do that to wasn't a copy Arrow in net for the Christian Erickson goal that will look almost exactly like that. The margin the situation Chelsea are no with sorts inexpensive goalkeeper. What was it seventy million the pit firm? Another I mean he hasn't been good any his shot percentage. His percentage shot saved is not good. And even in Games you just watch them in your like. Don't fancy him right now. I I don't disagree. Certainly let's see. Let's go through some of these quickly now. Tottenham Everton yesterday, not a ton to say about the actual game itself. It was first half was okay. Second half was was a bit of a tough watch. the winning goal comes on an own goal. The only thing I'll say about that. I feel like we put some kind of jinx on Michael Keane like right after we said how good he's been lately. Now known anything wrong, but like no one wants to see their name up their own goal in defeat, right? That's a bad feeling, and I feel partly responsible the other thing though. So on for Tottenham on watching that the Everton game, and especially in the first half I like what they did, and it's what led to the goal because it's what they didn't do against Sheffield United when Sheffield united packed in tight against Tottenham. Pass it around. Pass it around playing across its repelled by Sheffield Defense, and that was the whole game. At least it seemed like a- against Everton they came up with this mentality of we're going to try to at least fire shots on net, and even if they don't each the net, you don't know what kind of bounce it can take like even before the own goal. Immediately before that happened, I forget who it was son, somebody took a shot, and it took an awkward deflection. Maybe it was lucas more, and it got Kinda got bounced back out, and then that's what leads to the shot that created the own goal so sometimes I think just just do that like even if shots are getting blocked, you don't always know which way the ball's GonNa roll rather than just continuously watching one ball after another one cross after another get knocked clear try something different, a kind of wished the Tottenham had at least try that again Sheffield United, and they did it against Everton, and got them the goal that won the game. But, that's not even really. The story the story after this one. Was the son Hugo loyalties coming together at the half and I think it was particularly jarring to see. Because it's two guys that I think are are viewed as pretty affable figures within. The Tottenham World I mean son is just like one of the most Smiley footballers you see and Hugo, reese longtime captain. It's just you know he's fiery, but I don't know it's not really a side of. That I've seen before. I texted you afterwards I'm like okay like I don't even know how to feel about this, so I need your help. Did son do anything so egregious from from the clips that we saw that would have led to Hugo Luiz acting that way and I and I kind of qualified my message to you by saying I. Ask you this knowing anything that's going on behind the scenes. And then what? You're what your response was essentially what? My response was it. Look did sawn bust a gut to get back, not really, but he kind kinda passed him on. It wasn't like there was nobody tracking. I think it was came went with them. A little bit on the shot flashed wide. It was the kind of thing you could mention. In the locker room, it did not require public and immediate anger from lorries right, which is what I thought, too, and then Josie, Marino spoke. Here's. He said a lot, but here's. I guess what I pulled out to be kind of the most important part of his quote on this incident, he said quote. It is beautiful. Probably it is a consequence of our meetings. You want to blame somebody for that. It's me. I was critical. My boys because they are not in my opinion, critical enough of each other. After I heard that I thought. That is peak Marino. WHO's just like watching his players fight? And he's just sitting there like clapping and applauding and cheering it on. It's like boy fights and arrested development when like when George blue is like cheering on videotaping as his funds, Kelly sunscreen each other but like. But then I kinda thought more about and I was like you know what if we are going to get this manager a chance. He does need to be able to instill his kind of culture, and if he believes that there needs to be more on field accountability, because what if we all said about Tottenham over the past? Few months several months. They've they've looked lifeless. There's this feeling on there on the field that it's almost like guys don't care that. They're going through the motions and Marino is not. He's just not going to accept that for better or worse, and maybe this is a situation where you would say it's for worse but you know what like I think. I think generally okay with it, and and part of that is also not just wanted to see more fire from this club that we hadn't seen, but it's also the way that sun and the reason themselves handled it because these guys have been there. They've been through the wars with this club together. They know each other I'm sure extremely well. What did they? Do? You need caught the glimpse of them coming out of the tunnel at halftime. Halftime they gave each other Hog Sun smiles. They're good after the game what happens. The camera catches Hugo race goes right up to sun and picks them up and gives them like a bear. Hug like I think they're good. I think there is an incident, maybe it should have been public, but whatever their manager is seemingly encouraging the stuff Larissa's the captain. He wants to set that tone even if overreacted, he's trying to show some fire so. I know, call me a spurs home. Call Me Josie Marino fan boy in this specific incident, but after Kinda gathering more more context on it I'm fine with it. Look I. Don't think there's a whole lot in it. I was just a little bit surprised. It happened on the field to be honest and it was. In a game that was dreadful. Even Marino said it was not it was not pretty to watch, nor was it a great performance, by Spurs, but after the defeat to Sheffield united where so many things went wrong. It was good to get three points. Nothing else to say if it happens again. then. It will become noteworthy otherwise I I would agree with while Craig, Burley says this thing happens all the time regularly and training sessions regularly behind the scenes. The only thing was that we got to see this time. That's it end off Yup policy. Jj Manchester United they blast. Pass, reeling born who are really in a bad way I think one of the emerging storylines of this restart in addition to Christian Pulisic. It's gotTa be Mason Greenwood, and and what he's done for them and I. Just wonder argue buying right now what you're seeing from him as a long solution as a as a marquee striker for this club. Yeah very much, so I absolutely am His ability get good shots on goal. Andrew his movement. The way links in with this team. He's an absolute fine for united and. Look definitely. You want to see more of You know their last stretch. Games have being how how should we put a comfortable for united to kind of get into a rhythm, but that site I mean there was money times prior to this where they weren't in a rhythm where they were playing teams, they should be beaten and they look really poor. He looks great, and he's part of a of an emerging from three and united are really really lucky It's interesting what all going to social how to say. About. You know in the context of. I mean he didn't name check Holland himself. But like in Ogden's pace mark writes Brochure Dortmund eventually won the race for Holland but the emergence of the eight year old Greenwood as one of Europe's hottest showing striker's means united may not be so dismayed. And, this is what soldier said. We didn't find the right one outside of our club. When asked about missing all when he was asked about missing out on Holland, he did you did say specifically, but we know have mason and that kind of says. It says a lot about the the confidence that there is into club about what this this player can achieve and look watching him. I'm very impressed. I spoke to a Liverpool fan over the weekend. and. Not Worry, but with disappointment. United of look, really good over the last few games is like Yep. Those those players look under. It before Andrew. Him Never, mind design and Bruno Fernandez the players that have committed to the ranks in the club right now Rashford. Greenwood's and while obviously they signed marcial. was you know he hasn't always been a hit? It looks good. Yeah, it does that Mark Ogden PC reference. It was really good. What was eye opening to me? was how we talked about this guy who has been identified like Sir Alex Ferguson a couple years ago. I think it was was talking about this guy as being someone to keep an eye on. I took this out of the the peace. Specifically Moggie said sources have told ESPN. That's soul. Shire was so convinced by greenwood who was seventeen? When social arrive as manager? He felt he could offload role Maluku and Alexis Sanchez enhance young striker the chance to stake his claim for a place in the first team I. Mean What an impression he must have made. If at seventeen years old Lukaku Gone Sanchez gone. We've got a seventeen year old. Who's never done anything at this level, but I believe. Believe so much in that guy that I think we can get rid of some of these high priced strikers I mean. Yeah, if if you remember Alexis answers was planned for Manchester United that what that was not that was not a hard decision to make and moving onto any one was better than that Lukaku, obviously maybe a little bit harder, not Sanchez. Yeah, it's. It's going well for a kit. That's for sure. A couple of quick ones here Arsenal in Leicester City one one. Today? It goes arsenals goal was. When they're right in attack. It looks good. You know we haven't seen a ton of Sabinas the season because of his injury, but he played in a great ball. All yeah, great ball to soccer, who now also looks like a great player? He plays it in to a Balmy Yang. I mean suddenly. We've always said Arsenal. Attack are going to be a dangerous team and they are showing it right now. Absolutely. Water disappointing result in the end. If you watch that first half Andrew, okay Lester. Had A goal ruled out that I taught woo was possibly legit, but outside of that that first half in particular and maybe twenty minutes of the second-half. Arsenal should have been ahead. They should have been home and hosed looked like. Dare say at Arsenal of old and the ball from Tobias Zaka hugged Asaka absolutely brilliant, a sinus contract which we talked about. Yeah, and they are desperate to get so bias to to to work out an extension to stay at the club, and our Ted is working on that wounded and used all You'll notice material gone doozy, not in the squad again. Apparently conducive, he has not trained with the first team. Squad saints, the Brighton, away match the to defeat at Brighton. And doesn't matter if he's considered a young talent are. Ted is done Woodham. And his look into move him on that I didn't say I. Talk. Talking doozy will be a part of our Ted has plans at least in the short term. And? That's not the case now they're. They're desperate to get to offload according to the. Paper's yeah and a good win for them over the weekend against wolves, top fourteen huge loss for for wolves, but yeah are making. Making Wolves game tomorrow, even more important Yup, and then one more here. I don't have really anything to say about it. Manchester City. I'll just shrug my shoulders. They lose to Southampton on a crazy goal. chipping the keeper from how many yards out when you say that was like thirty five forty something like that, but like you look at Man, city, Seventy four percent possession, twenty six shots, and just nothing to show for What did you know John was really interesting. The person to deliver the bollocking to are not to be Adams to Zintchenko after he gave the ball away in the lead up to that goal after he wasn't sharp of turning and playing, the past was not pep Guardiola, but rather writing starling. Sterling tore into Janko afterwards like talk about asking for responsibility on the pitch. I mean marina would that was beautiful, too? You're not kidding. Finish. What's that I was such a great finish that that was my favorite goal of the weekend the way. The ways just caught. The ball is perfect and put that little bit of Carolina Lovely Goal Yeah. We've had some like considering. People have said that the Games haven't been great out of the restart. I would say we've had some really good individual goals. Since play resumed. What's been your favorite? That one that you just said is definitely up there Some of the others now I'm drawing a blank I mean. CZAJA's from today would be up there. You might say that was more on a keeper, but watching it in real time it was one of those like scream out loud moments. Might Mine is nettles volley versus West Ham. Okay, that was all that was also great. When I also thought then she'll wells. That was nice yeah. Any of any of Liverpool's four against Downton we're just beauties YEP Let's take another quick break. When we come back. It is the it is the return Jj of Red Card and man of the match very excited about this. You can forward to it. Don't go anywhere. Oh back now offside DJ. Let's go right into it. Red Card tweet tweet. Can I go I, hear you man, so we were just talking about Chelsea meant to bring this up on our last podcast and I didn't saw. Bring it up now. Jj. Those new kits. Those new kits I don't. I don't like him, and IT'S A. It's a shame. Today was our our first look at the their away kit, and I actually really like the color of the away kit for Chelsea but I can't put my finger on what it is, but for some reason that number three on the front. Just like I don't know. It just seems weird to me. I guess it only works for Marcus Alonzo, but like it just seems it seems odd and I don't mean to like. Take a shot at the company. It's Three UK telecommunications company, yeah and they sponsored the Irish national team, which is the only national team? That sells their Jersey with a shirt sponsor I bet. You love that I know you. We want to hear something. I've got this lovely. The you're the Umbro Euro Two Thousand Sixteen Ireland. Jersey is just beautiful, and I bought us. And this big plastic three in the middle of the chest, so I'm taking it to a Taylor to have it removed. Look at it anymore. It's an once. I saw it on. Chelsea Jersey. That was it. Yeah, I didn't like it. Either Chris Wright wrote a little bit about the kit for ESPN. AFC said. The new kid is inspired by London's proud history of fine tailoring with a subtle herringbone design, helping to emphasize the blues bold new sponsor logo West Ham were on it. They they tweeted from their team account. Three huge points get in. There seemed like there was an emphasis on the three I have a feeling. They won't be the last team to do that So, yeah, I'll give them this reading a little more bad at football London and they said they said there that the kid is made from one hundred percent recycled materials, including love that good and recycled plastic bottles so I don't. I don't mind the kids. It's. The kit sponsors just. kind of throws it out of whack. Yeah, by the way when I was looking this up a couple of other kids that have leaked. That I'M GONNA. Just tell people to Google, because actually pretty Nice I xe away. Check it out. It's different kind of cool and also. Manchester United's Home Jersey. There's something like there's like this subtle connor leg. Even describe it. When you look at it, you'll see I. I kinda like their Jersey to. You're talking about the gray. I xe away. Yeah, it's gorgeous domesticated. It's the kid of the season. It's wonderful. So there you go where you got. My required Lots Yours Patrick was sent off for biting late on in a loss at Lecce. That Delta massive blow to their title hopes defender Patriots was shown a straight red card for biting. Lech is Giulio dotty. On the arm injury time Philippi. Say CDL has scored five minute opener for the visitors but Kumara back. Headed in Filippo. Falco's crossed eleven level it up on thirty minutes and struggling. Lecce completed the turnaround after halftime as defender Fabio Lucianne headed in from a corner now. That should have been that in terms of. Syria? Ambitions but in a bit of a cracker today. Milan AC Milan. That is you four two at the San Zero? So the standings right? No mean it's still the seven points equal on games. Matches played thirty one games played it seventy five points to sixty eight. Laps Your Cam the break? They were kind of hoping that they would be the team that could maybe. Run Juventus close, but it hasn't really worked out that way. They've lost at Let me. See who they've lost that. They've lost a Atalanta and Milan, so it's Kinda dented their hopes, but maybe there's a lifeline, even though they lost today. Maybe there is a lifeline and we may yet have a tight race. Andrew although. Nah probably not sell glazed it I. Don't know that doesn't yeah I'm trying to get excited Bush. Keep trying Let's see now man-of-the-match. Let's see so I I went with this Jj there were a lot of nerves. We talked about this before when play resumed in the premier league like were they really ready? Kinda like what we're grappling with here with MLS while the latest round of testing for coronavirus, in England with the Premier League, specifically came back yesterday, one, one, thousand, nine, hundred and seventy three tests were conducted zero zero positives now no I. Don't know if that's luck. I don't know if it's players and teams doing the right thing I don't know if it's England as a whole doing the right things, but the bottom line is this on the most important thing. When it was announced that the League was coming back was everyone's health, and so with these latest results we can at least feel good about the protocols that have been put into place and the decision that was made to resume plane I. Mean Remember. We're talking about guys like routines. Sterling Danny rose. Guys were openly concerned about their health and kind of being thrust into this and not sure if they were ready so this this has to be viewed as as it has encouraging extremely encouraging what I would say though to this is, don't get cocky like. Don't let this this positive result. Change your behavior. Unfortunately. I feel like that's sometimes. It's human nature. People get a little careless They think everything's fine. I mean we're not necessarily out of the woods yet. so just kind of keep doing what you're doing, you know hopefully the focus remains on soccer rather than the risks of the soccer players being out there, so that's all that I was like. Wow, that's that is A. That is a good story that is very. It's a great story on I'd love to think that it's just the rigor of the primarily testing and the social distancing that they've. That? They've done around the project restart. That's really helped those figures to be unbelievably good because. I don't know. Maybe it's still if we can apply in in society, of course it stuff, we can apply in society that can continue to to. To you know, fight this this disease. What do you have? Your member genial Yup lip for Olympic. Yeah, you do. Yeah, he's talked. In the video game. His, free kicks. Yeah, I mean thinking might be the best free kick taker I've ever seen. Like he was he was unbelievably accurate. He's up there with your. What a statement to throw out there at the end of the podcast. I'm trying to think now a pure low. Pure does up. There Beckham is certainly over the top. In higher up there I. Think who else would be up there. I'd have to I'd have to think more about that, but when I think about your Janina I, think about those free kicks anyway. He's been talking to Seattle. Rebelo in The Guardian Andrew and he's been talking about a lot of the the issues that are going on. In football right now in terms of players speaking out about site issues, and there's just some interesting thoughts. He has about the black lives movement, and how it's being such, a racism has been such an issue in in Brazil, and he gets very emotional in this piece I will tweet out the link to the Guardian piece, but our conversation turns to the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on the twenty. Twenty fifth of May and the black lives matter movement more than half the Brazilian population devices black, and the country has had several cases similar to that of floyd including Yao Federal. A fourteen year old boy killed by Brazilian police in June are Aga- Felix was only eight years old when he was shot in the back by police and the Real Favila in September twenty nineteen, she led her died. This is a genial speaking now this is a clear racism. A confirmation of the kind of violent politics. We have had an country at the moment. How was it possible for an eight year old child to be shot by police like happened last year in the complex the Alamo. How is it possible to live after that unbelievable? Look at George, Floyd. He couldn't breathe. He is a human being I can't imagine how to police can do that. It's racism and very very sad. No Janina is the Director of sport at Olympic Legionnaire Right, now and I just read his words, and he actually has to stop during the interview the. Tiago Rabelo says how Janina gets really. Emotional and Christ, but the point about it is as our ever been a time where players current players pass players, people involved in football have ever spoken out so much on social issues. I don't think I've ever heard it before now. Fort while all the same kind of enclosed environment it's amazing, and it's it's I think when it's the biggest is the biggest cultural movement in the world is to think people talk about the most, and surely surely something good can come from people of influence in football, talking about these issues I hope so certainly hope so at least awareness. Yeah, I'll tell you why. Let's take one more break. We'll come back after that and wrap things up. Don't go anywhere. Back now, Z. Wind it down. CAUGHT OFFSIDE JJ one year ago today. Guesses. No but happened A couple of things actually the US. Women defeated the Netherlands to knelt. World Cup. That was a year ago today. WHOA chime flies, which means that was also the same day of the Gold Cup final that the remember the morning. You have the US women. World Cup final in and I hung out all day and then watch the Gold Cup final at night. That was like a an eighteen hours a day of like that was a good day. Well, yeah, the ending wasn't great, but the women winning the World Cup that day was awesome and didn't. Didn't we catch the Copa America final? Oh yeah, that's right. That was also between. One day. That was something. Like hearing that? It's the one year anniversary I was thinking back about that like the legacy of that women's team. I know a lot of people talk about their brashness, and all that I think for me in the end. The thing that like here. We are a year later. What I think about most I think. It's kind of what I talk about that same day Roosevelt. Like I really feel like we have this new. Superstar like truly world-class superstar. That's going to be this unbelievable player for years to come and I thought it was Kinda like L. coordinated that day. She scored one of the two goals. And here we are year later. I feel like she's. Just love watching her play. I'm going to watch the Challenge Cup is well. Underrated never talked about she super-quick. Yes, she ghosts! Players runabout Pulitzer running up there players. Roosevelt is the exact same thing. And one other thing I wanted to mention this was Kinda. My like man of the match, honorable mention, but I just say now bar Munich four to over Beyer, Leverkusen to win the German Cup. This team is a force right now. This is this is crazy. This unbeaten streak that they're on. Soon enough domestic plays GONNA die down and we'll have the champions. League just thrown back at us and I wonder you know. We've said for a lot of the season that we really are having a hard time. Identifying the true Champions League, favorites Barcelona. Have you know haven't looked on it at times like I, wonder. Maybe it's maybe it's Byron like maybe that team right now the way they're playing leading. Unbelievable Funds Davies we've talked about. It? I think it's dumb right now. Byron aren't such a role. It's hard to believe Andrew that on the second of November. Twenty nineteen earlier in the season they got battered five one by Eintracht Frankfurt. Like? Destroyed that must have been the low point. And then Hansi flick is come in and. Just the way they play Andrew. It's. The hardest thing you're talking to this morning and the hardest thing he said for manager to do is to comb in an changed the style of play. Implement your style of play and still be competitive matches with the players. You've got just dealing with what you had. Changed the direction of a team whilst also being competitive games, Hansie Flick has done that. It's been amazing. It really has yeah so there. You go man. What a show! Oh! My God we covered really covered a lot today. Our thanks to Steph sorrow will continue to be in such with him throughout the throughout the tournament and it gets underway. Tomorrow should be a lot of fun man. Hey! This was fun, and and if you feel if you feel, you need covert nineteen test. Don't let Andrews bumbling puts you off. Go get one now if anything I feel like I've provided. Like a warnings, everyone, no pictures keep the windows down until somebody specifically tells you to roll them or keep them up until somebody tells you to roll them down, letting employees will be the country's punching bag all the guy who takes all the WHO takes all of all of this. Just so you all know what to do. That's right on. Always wear pants. Oh yeah, well. That's that is a given. That is a given. Hey, this was fun man to you I. Say circulator from boy. Ticker! offsides soccer podcast. 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