9 Burst results for "Pat Moynihan"
"pat moynihan" Discussed on WGN Radio
"Weekday mornings at 6 is bob sera time. It also may be breakfast time or yoga time, but definitely listening time. Welcome back to the Jimbo had a show with our guest former Texas senator Phil Graham and with gill who listens in Manila, the Philippines. Good evening girl. Yes, good evening. Jim and senator Graham. I lived in El Paso before I came here. And on several occasions, our past cross, I was working ballot security for the Republican Party in El Paso. I worked for a guy by the name of ten Carr, and I know you remember him, he was nominated to be a first circuit associate judge but because of Bill Clinton's election, he was not approved in the Senate. But anyhow, when I came here, I was working in recruitment, hitting teachers and healthcare professionals starting back in 2001. And there was a phenomenon. This is the loophole for 8 families with dependent children, but I came upon. I had teachers working in junior high in Austin and the poor young girls in grade 7 and 8 during vacations were very, very hard to get pregnant because that's a loophole in age to families with dependent children if you're a minor, they can't deny you any type of welfare payment. And you're talking about AFDC and I just thought I would bring that up. Thank you. I thought senator. Well, we have tightened up on that somewhat beyond a certain point you can't get more money for having more children. But there's no doubt about the fact, Gil, that we have set up a system where we reward people for not working and in many cases we reward people for actions that are in their benefit and aren't in the nation's benefit. Pat moynihan, a Democrat colleague of mine from New York. Pointed out how the welfare system was having an effect on the nation's morals having an effect on family formation now all those things are almost politically incorrect. The talk about today, but the point is when you give people benefits without them having to work, you change their behavior, you change their lives, and you change the economy. And again, I think this is very destructive policy. And I think the data shows it very, very clearly. Yeah. Here's Jim in Marysville, Washington. Yeah, I have a question for the senator. First of all, I was told that the NFL on the ball player of football baseball players are all exempt from taxes, but personal income taxes. No, no, no, no. You think you're a hotshot. You think you're a hot shot player in the NFL and you don't pay income taxes. Is that what you think, Jim? I was told. Well, no, no, they may have found some creative accounting tricks to pay less than they might otherwise pay, but senator Graham tell her what to trust me on this. Tom Brady pays taxes. Senator? No, that's right. That's right. And they pay a lot of taxes. If they make a lot of income. Yeah, there you go. More to come back in a moment. Add paid
"pat moynihan" Discussed on Cinemavino
"I love trouble with Nick Nolte, was all. With knock Knoll? They were like a couple in that movie. And they hate each other behind the scenes. Which Julia Roberts has some of those people that can't stand her in the Hughes known as tinker hill on the set of hook. Oh, I see that. She did conspiracy theory. I love Mel Gibson. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Before this or after. This was right before that same year before that. So this was directed by a guy named PJ Hogan, who apparently is somebody. I thought it was Paul Hogan. I would watch. When did he get into a directing? I'm gonna break up this swim. Good for him. Mate. That's not a cool song. This is a cool song. Oh my God, that would have made the whole movie better. It was just being set in Australia. Yeah. Full-time she's trying to wrestle with an alligator. It's 25 years coming up. Yeah. Reboot. My best friend's wedding except Julia Roberts is wrestling crocodiles. Yeah. That is my movie. Kicked in the head by a kangaroo. So basic plots and ops is film tells the story of platonic best Friends, Julia Roberts, and dermat mulroney, who is not Dylan McDermott. And we need to have what's the difference. We need to have an extended podcast about who's who, because I get confused. I don't think we do. I'm pretty confused. I need to know definitively who's better looking. Wait, they're both fucking bored. But one of them, one of them is McDreamy, was one of them on that show with, I don't think either of us doctors anatomy. One of them was on the practice and the other guy was in young guns too. So Travis, why is his shirt off in that picture? Travis goes for the shirtless picture. He also looks a lot like the lead singer from train. Pat moynihan, if you ask me, that's not the guy in the movie. No, I know. That's the other guy. Their names are so similar. Dylan McDermott and dermot mulroney. Is this not the guy from third eye blind? I thought this pat moynihan train. I thought that was like this. I'm so gangster. I'm so excited, my friend. Nothing? No, I thought that was like the third eye blind guy. Todd, I'm going to send you this picture, so whenever we do this film, we'll just add this in. Just go ahead and share this picture. Yeah, yeah, so this has nothing to do with the current film. Don't get me wrong. That's a good-looking shirtless man. Yeah, that's just you're just texting him a half naked dude..
Dennis Prager Podcasts
"pat moynihan" Discussed on Dennis Prager Podcasts
"And I leave it as a question rather than an answer. Okay. But you will find this of interest because you noted, the idea is preposterous the idea that all of this came from nothing. And I had the astrophysicist who wrote the book, I think it's something from nothing. Attributed to equations in quantum mechanics, that would account for this. Yeah, but of course, you would have loved this because I said to him at a given point. So you're telling me that even those laws came from nothing and his answer basically was, well, it depends what nothing means. It's like what is is. Well, I mean, then you have to capitalize nothing. Then you have to look at the same way, maybe. In my monitors, you know that his theology if you can only say what God is. Once you start to say that there's nothing inherent in the nothingness of the universe that already has laws. You then your mind. You're on the other side. Yes, exactly. How did you start out politically? I was your first about I grew up in Canada. I mean, born in the U.S., but my family moved to Canada when I was 5. So I grew up Montreal, I went to McGill. The 60s in McGill were not like the 60s here, there was no Vietnam War, obviously. It was an issue of French Canadian nationalism. So it was a whole different kind of radicalism. But when I came to the U.S., I sort of identified as my American family hat. As a Liberal Democrat. But a Cold War Democrat. I was always Cold War liberal my hero was scooped Jackson. I write about this. The introduction to the book is an original essay, very long one, it's autobiographical. And I talk about my transition from a doctor to a writer. And from a Cold War liberal scoop Jackson acolyte to a conservative over years. In 1976, when I was a doctor at Massachusetts, I handed out a leaflet for scoop. The sidewalk in the Massachusetts democratic primary. He was my eager member school he was. He was my hero. And he was tough as nails on the southeast. But he had one flow as a candidate. You remember this. He was extremely dull. It was said of scoop Jackson that if he ever gave a fireside chat, the fire would go out. So that was scoops problem. But anyway, you see people don't understand today. That in the late 70s, there was a very powerful and important segment of the Democratic Party that was conservative. Especially on foreign policy, it was called a coalition for a democratic majority. And it involved scoop Jackson, pat moynihan, who had Humphrey. The problem is and this is my transition that you. You are asking about, is that they petered out? I mean, the last remaining member of that tribe, the last mohican, was Joe Lieberman. It was essentially driven out of the Democratic Party. A liberal on domestic issues, tough on foreign issues. So that brings me to the 80s. I worked for mondale in 1980 on speechwriter for him in 1980. But then on inauguration day when Reagan came in 1981. And again, all of this is in the introduction. A Reagan sworn in the first term. I went to work for the new republic. And then the transition started when I was persuaded my empirical evidence about the damage that the war on poverty, the great society that liberal policies were doing. And as a scientist, as a Doctor Who's open to empirical evidence, when the medicine is killing your patient, you stop. Beautifully said of something else. Let me tell everybody once again, I'm talking to Charles krauthammer as I'm sure nearly every one of you knows.
The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
"pat moynihan" Discussed on The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
"Folks, I've been reading a really remarkable book. It's called the president's man, the memoirs of Nixon's trusted aid. And I'm delighted to welcome the man himself, Dwight Chapin. He was a personal aide and then deputy assistant to president Nixon. And he then went on to a very successful career in communications and strategic affairs, and this the president's man is evidently his first book. Dwight, welcome to the show. You have written a terrific book. I'm kind of sorry you haven't been writing books all along because you're obviously a very gifted writer and this book is kind of a window into the world. Well, your world, but also the world of Nixon, what? What gave you the idea to write this book now? Well, I wrote the book now for a couple of reasons. Principally the getting the history down, I had sat with it for such a long time. 50 years. And I knew the man in an extraordinary way, having been so close to him over a couple of decades. And I thought I owed it to history. And then more importantly, I thought that it was needed in order to bring some balance to the interpretation of the man himself. He was such a gifted person. He was such a great president. And most people know Nixon either for two things going to China or Watergate and the Watergate cloud over casts over everything that he accomplished. So I thought it was important because of the position that I was privileged to hold to clarify things. One of the striking observations you make about Nixon and this almost to me sets him apart from any president that I can think of in the modern era, is you say that he was shy. He was an introvert, and that is happiest position you describe it this way. You say, the president would work late into the night, reading briefing books, he loved this thinking time. If you put Nixon with a comfortable chair and Ottoman for his feet, you give him a yellow pad and a cup of hot coffee, he's like in heaven. And so Nixon in that sense preferred a world of isolation. He was an avid reader of history. And I think this it's hard for me to think of any recent president who would meet that definition or come close to it. Yes, but the nation. Let me say, I don't know that he preferred isolation. He had a way of thinking. He had a way of getting his creative juices flowing. I mean, you're an incredibly creative man yourself. You know that there are certain ways that you a certain way is that you get yourself positioned or into certain mental frame of mind and that creativity seems to expand. And with Nixon, I mean, he would sit with his pads and he would have his coffee and so forth. But it wasn't that he was isolated and it was that he was incubating. He was a strategist at heart. And he was incredibly knowledgeable. And so I look at it that way. You describe an interesting process. I remember seeing Pat Buchanan has a memoir in which he talks about Nixon, and he gives me the idea from that book. Buchanan does that Nixon didn't really understand the conservatives. In fact, a Buchanan quote Nixon saying something like, who are these conservatives? Tell me about them. You know, and you in your book give a different angle, you say that Buchanan sort of represented, you may say the hard right, but Nixon also had guys like Ray Price, Len garment, one of his attorneys, and law partners, Bill Safire, who was a speechwriter for Nixon later went to The New York Times, and you go that Nixon liked to have this kind of balancing act of a range of views. Talk a little bit about why Nixon cherished having competing points of view around him. Yes, this is part of his confidence factor. This is part of his how well he was anchored. He could draw views from any number of different places. I mean, he had pat moynihan as part of the staff. And then he has Pat Buchanan. I mean, you get across the ideological span, if you will, he was able to draw that in and use that to enhance his own thinking or understanding on issues. Pat Buchanan is one of my closest friends. And pat was extremely important in the whole mix and operation. And the president loved the views that he got from pat, but he knew right where pat was coming from and pat was on the conservative side of the ledger. But it was important to Nixon not to just rely on pat, not because pat was a conservative, but because he Nixon was incredibly pragmatic. And he liked drawing from these other men. I think when we look back at Nixon and we try to classify him ideologically using today's framework, it's a little bit hard to do because he was a Law & Order man. At the same time I would say domestically and socially, he was something of a liberal. He didn't hesitate to use government programs, for example, for what he saw as necessary purposes in the foreign policy domain he was anti communist to be sure, but he wasn't sort of one of those rollback guys. I remember a series of books that Nixon wrote even after the presidency where he described what he called hard headed detente. He wanted to figure out a tough minded way that we could get along with the Soviet Union, and my question is this in the end was Nixon wrong about the Soviet Union because the Soviet collapse occurred in a way, perhaps it shocked us all, but was nevertheless midwife not so much by the Nixon strategy, but by the Reagan strategy. I'm not sure on that. Let me just say that his view of foreign policy in the world world affairs and so this is an evolutionary thing. This is not static. It's changing. I was really struck by the fact that the reality that when Nixon went to China, 50 years ago, he was in this geopolitical exercise where he had Russia on one side and China on the other and he had them separate and he was working both of them in that case in particularly against the Vietnam trying to solve the Vietnam War. But we just finished the Olympics. Officially the America is not even there. You've got China and Russia close to each other and their leaders standing there and this is not, I don't believe what Nixon envisioned. Very interesting. Let's take a pause when we come back, I want to explore further the enigma that was.
America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
"pat moynihan" Discussed on America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
"Who am I talking about who are we delighted to have an extra extra opportunity to talk to? He's none other than distinguished heritage fellow former member of the Trump cabinet for veteran affairs. Robert wilkie, doctor welcome back to America first. Thank you for having me back. So I hope I hope it was with regards to Vlad that you were being interviewed. Is that right? Absolutely. Okay, everyone. So let's start. We brought you in early, so let's start with the thorny issue. Yes. So people still don't understand our old boss when it comes to his national security perspective. I'll give one illustration that I've shared here before. I was in the oval alone with him on another issue. I think it was Iran. And in the middle of nowhere, he just looks up from his paper, he was leaning back at the resolute desk, and he's just said, with no apropos. He was in a very serious mindset. He said, I do not want to deploy. American troops back onto the Korean Peninsula. So clearly he was thinking about Kim and he thought about the Korean War. This is a man who took his responsibility very seriously was not an interventionist, but if you're a bad guy doing bad things, he's happier that drop of the hat over chocolate cake to drop 52 cruise missiles on your head in Syria as he did. And killed 200 Russia. And killed 200 Russians quite unquote contractors who are actually we know what they are. Let's help us as somebody with a distinguished service record in more than two services rises to the cabinet in the Trump administration, explain to those who are listening to the millions of people who support president Trump. What was you need about his geopolitical perspective? Interesting that you put it that way because I'll talk about him being Truman esque in one sense. Okay. But he looked at the world from the perspective that America was the indispensable nation. But America wasn't the inexhaustible nation. Very good. And as a result of that, we would do everything that we could. To make sure that our Friends had what they needed to defend themselves. And even though he didn't articulate it this way, it's very much going back to Harry Truman and George Marshall. They have dropped on their desk that that telegram that document from mister X, George cannon. It says gentlemen, this is a threat that the likes of which we've never seen. And immediately, the Truman doctrine is in place. We're going to ship arms to Greece, we're going to ship arms to turkey. We are going to make sure that even though we can't be everywhere. People who share our values. And people who share our contempt and hatred of communism. Will be ready to oppose. So let's look at what that meant for Ukraine. Obama Biden in 2014 and sad to say doctor that the same people who gave us that disaster are back in The White House. Yes. Including the national security adviser. When Putin moved all by Obama Biden could do was send meals ready to eat. That's not fair. He sent blankets. He blankets. I said blankets. Sorry. I'd like it. Yes. But maybe some salt. And I left out tense. When president Trump came in, understanding that Russia is a great nation in the historical sense. And you have to treat that nation. The requisite treatment for a nation with 11 time zones. Right. Absolutely. Right. I said, okay, Ukraine, you get what you need to deter Putin's tanks and his planes. And he was a choir boy for four years. He backed that up by reminding the world in the Middle East. That Obama Biden had drawn red lines that nobody believed. And he took out bad guys. The rest of the west. He not only took out 200 Russians. And destroyed terrorist camps, he destroyed the caliphate. And he did something revolutionary. It's interesting, sadly, the tendons that senator Dole's funeral today, and I had the great pleasure of sitting next to a friend of mine. Tricia Nixon. And her husband Edward Cox, I think you know. And we were talking about the damage, almost the year achievable damage that this president has done to what Nixon set in motion, which was to kick the Soviet Union out of the Middle East. And bring Jews and Arabs together. Trump took that and took it to a level that nobody could believe. And everybody said was impossible. That's impossible. And this administration refuses to recognize it. Won't even won't even acknowledge it, that these things happened. And we were talking about how, after all that work with Sadat and gold to my ear and the Saudis, it's collapsed, giving an example. The Russians just entered into an agreement with the Saudis, a defense cooperation agreement. Prime minister Bennett, who can not trust this president with Israel's future, I just spent four days in Sochi with Putin. They came away with the deal that the Russians aren't going to interfere with Israeli. That is so dumb. That's incredible. Yeah. That Israel has to look to Moscow. Absolutely. So in the Middle East, brought you an Arab together. He put on the line the new threat. Actually, it's a 40 year threat, but nobody approached it the way president Trump did. That the ayatollahs want to reestablish Persian hegemony over the region. They have to be stopped. They are a threat not only to Israel but to every Sunni Arab country. And we're going to do everything we can to stop them, including, destroying killing the world's number one terrorist. The fulcrum of the Iranian revolutionary guard complex that's not just military and paramilitary. It is banking. It's investments. It's modeling. It's everywhere. The black market. And the whole dynamic in the Middle East changed. And it has changed back for the bad all of a sudden. Help me with this one thing. So the reason people don't understand what president Trump did is because it didn't fall into the very lazy taxonomy of D.C. national security. Right. For 20 since the end of the Cold War, we were given these two options. Mindless neoconservative is we're going to turn you into democracy end of a gun barrel, like Bush two. Or multilateralism where the problem and let other people fix it and will retreat from the world a la Obama. How is the most powerful nation in the world with all the Ivy League expertise and all the think tanks that we have? How do we devolve to such a simplistic view of the world there are two options in national security, where nonsensical intervention or withdrawal? Well, you answered the first one with Ivy League pipes. Faculty lounge pieties that the best and the brightest would remake the world. Our foreign policy was run with the exception of those times when you had George Marshall. Even doctor Kissinger, the ultimate realist. Running it. It was left to the dreamers. Yeah. And then in that strange world that existed before you and I were in public policy, where old time socialists like gene kirkpatrick and Ben wattenberg and moynahan woke up. Mugged by reality. Mug by reality and came to see the light. That generation is gone now. We're back to the Ivy League. Ivy League pieties, but the sad thing doctor is that's not the world of gene kirkpatrick and pat moynihan and Benoit Bernard. This is the this is now the world of the blame America first crowd..
The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"pat moynihan" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"This is jalen yang national editor at the new york times. More than seventeen hundred journalists work the times. They come from all over from iraq to iowa. They speak arabic spanish korean. But there's one thing they all have in common. They have dedicated their lives to helping us understand the world everything. The new york times publishes starts and ends but their commitments times subscribers keeper journalists focused on their stories. If you're not a subscriber yet you can become one at ny times dot com slash. Subscribe outside with the last word with lawrence o. donald lawrence it'd be ritual and new york's governor huckle. There's gonna join us tonight and i. I know kathy focal. But i don't know her as well as i might. If we didn't spend more time on senator moynihan's staff she was on senator moynihan's senate staff in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. When i was on the senators reelection campaign staff senate staff had nothing to do with me or or the campaign and they were all operating at a level far above my head of but kathy o'connell left of the moynahan staff that year and you're going to hear in a moment the magic words that senator moynihan's said to her that helped ease her out of the senate staff and it's it's quite a story and if it maybe if he hadn't said that i would know kathy hogan much better than i do i would we would have ended up working together of but such such is life a tv show. That i'm weeks cited to watch. This is a plot. I'm excited to get to the end up. Pat warn him has the best part in this tonight excellent. I can't wait thank you. Thanks nineteen eighty-eight. A young lawyer told new york senior. Senator daniel patrick moynihan but she was feeling a bit conflicted about the long hours. She was putting in as a member of his staff after giving birth to her. First child senator moynihan her in thirty years. You won't remember the days you spent here in the office but you will remember the days you spent with your children. She quit moved back to buffalo tonight thirty three years later. She is the governor of new york and my first guest so good morning and had very good luck with staffers from buffalo beginning with the now legendary. Tim rosser then. Kathy hotel and then jim kane who ran the buffalo office when i joined senator moynihan's staff just as kathy hotel was leaving early in his service on senator moynihan's staff. Tim restaurant felt a bit intellectually intimidated by the harvard. Whiz kids that senator moynihan brought with him to washington after serving as a harvard professor pat moynihan who grew up in hell's kitchen and shine shoes and times square while attending new york city. Public schools took tim'rous aside and said this about the harvard delegation on his staff. Tim what they know. You can learn what you know. They can never learn. Had one hand also knew that was true of kathy hotel in her first address as governor. She mentioned her grandparents as teenagers. Fleeing great poverty in ireland in search of a better life. But she did not mention that when she was born. Her family was living in a trailer near the bethlehem steel plant outside of buffalo. Her father jack. Courtney was working at the plant at night and was attending college during the day. Her mother pat courtney stayed home raising six children. Kathleen courtney was the second oldest shop. She got her. First whiff of politics as a student at syracuse university. She successfully pushed the university to divest investments in south africa to protest apartheid of move a movement that was then joined on college campuses all over the country after law school. She married bill hogan a former federal prosecutor who is now a corporate lawyer. Kathy hotel served in the house. Representatives during the obama administration and she was in her third term as lieutenant governor when governor andrew cuomo resigned last month andrew cuomo and his political operatives tried to drop kathy yokel from the ticket in the last election but she mounted a campaign for lieutenant governor that was in effect. Independent from the governor's campaign and she won. Governor hogan is. New york's first woman governor and she is the first new york governor in over one hundred years. From new york's second largest city buffalo. Kathy hotel is as of tonight. The only declared candidate for governor of new york in next year's election in her first speech as governor kathy khokhlov revealed that she had been consulting with dr. Anthony vouch even before andrew cuomo left office and the protecting new yorkers from cova nineteen would be her top priority today president. Joe biden issued a statement congratulating. California's governor gavin newsom on crushing. The republican recall attempt last night saying quote this vote is a resounding win for the approach that he and i share to beating the pandemic strong vaccine requirements strong steps to reopen school safely and strong plans to distribute real medicines not fake treatments to help those who get sick. The fact that voters both traditionally democratic and traditional republican parts of the state rejected. The recall shows that americans are unifying behind taking these steps to get the pandemic behind us. New york is the second largest state with a democratic governor and governor. Ho cole has also been taken. The kind of strong steps. That joe biden praised today and one of our first acts. As governor kathy ho mandated that masks be worn in schools of policy that has allowed the children of new york to return to school in person and today governor hotel announced that she is implementing a mask mandate for state regulated child and daycare centers as well as mental health and substance abuse facilities. Hogan has also made it a priority to protect new yorkers from the threat of a victim by speeding up nearly four hundred million dollars in rental assistance payments.
"pat moynihan" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"To understand the golden rule and follow this man. Father Color him, Father color him. Love him. Love That's a beautiful song. I heard it over the weekend. It's by the Winstons was made 1969. And it shows you the importance of fathers and how much they loved their father and what an example he was for me came home from work, etcetera, etcetera, and they go on in a bid. I'll play in the second about education, and it's so important and the reason why I bring that up because we talked about this yesterday. The New York City Department of Education they want to get they want to do away with honor rolls. They want to do away with honorables, and with that they wanted to downgrade grades. And one of the reasons is the agency wants to expand recognition to include contributions to the school or wider community and demonstrations of social justice and integrity. In place of grades. You have stolen my dreams. And so in other words, in other words, myth is racist to once again. Math is racist merit, Uh, making again the honourable making the Dean's list or whatever it is. Is a racist concept and what they're saying here This is the bigotry of low x the soft bigotry of low expectations. It's actual but bust out racism is what it is. It is racism. Yes, they're saying that black people can't do this, and that's not true. But black people can do it. Do anything. We've been doing it, but they did it for a long, long time. Your school suck. And some of the culture is not very helpful. It's not. It's not auspicious enough for people to achieve because, well, whatever it holds people back and fathers The absence of fathers to send an example is crucial. As a matter of fact, I was reading in The New York Post a couple of letters to the editor. One of them said I believe the D O s next move should be to tell schools that their basketball and football teams should emphasize quote, contributions to the school or wider community and demonstrations of social justice and integrity and eliminate try out. I mean, that's a great point, right? Yeah, I tell you, it's uh, you know, Pat Moynihan, I guess almost 60 years ago now, he wrote, was called the Moynahan Report. Saying that the breakdown of the family was going to be so damaging to the African American community, and you have to have a strong father figure he's talking about. He had a problem with his own father. I believe you saw the importance of it. Fortunately, had a mother to keep the whole family together. But you need having a strong father just gives you that extra advantage. The extra that's not white privilege That's really advantage. You get from a hard working father and that's you know, in other times, Jesse Jackson, Others would talk about that. And that's the reality and that should be stressed. It really should absolutely right. So so this song continues again. This is the Winstons just listen to what the kid that the singer says about his dad and and education and how important it is and and it was in the black family. They put a premium on education, just like the Asians do now they did in the past. Listen to this, he says. Education is the thing If you want to complete Because without its sun life ain't very sweet. I love this man. And I don't know why it except I'll need his strength. I'm told the day that I die. My mother loves him, and I can tell By the way she looks at her When he holds my little sister, they'll I heard him say just the other day that it had been for him. She couldn't have found her way. I am Father cover him far color him. Love catch great shot, So.
The Lawfare Podcast
"pat moynihan" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Have different conceptions of truth is different acceptance. The facts are they tend to have more bubbled existence. They tend because you can disagree with any of this. They tend because they're hanging out in like minded communities to engage in group polarization. You know you said at the end of the book you ask the question. Which unconstrained institution poses the greatest danger to the body. Politic hyper partisan media flailing to retain readers and viewers or presidency with direct access to tens of millions of admirers. I mean so. I just wonder whether he are you neutral about this change. You think it's bad for the country. I absolutely think that they divisive miss. That afflict society now is a dangerous and never more so than in the midst of a pandemic when health recommendation. So politicized as we've seen. So i think you know. I'm not gonna make an excuse of saying. The book was written before the pandemic but it was but of course it's unhealthy. But i also you know looking at the long view. We in the era of hyper partisanship. We manage to elect abraham lincoln as a leader. Who's who oversaw the greatest crisis in the greatest threat to democracy in american history. So i think partisan journalism is not automatically bad. The difference is in lincoln era. You either read a republican newspaper or a democratic paper and though papers were openly and proudly aligned. I'm waiting for the day when cnn declares itself eight a force aligned with the democratic party. I'm if we can't go back to the days of walter cronkite and howard k smith and others than than maybe people should be aware of the specifics of who they're watching and make the identities more a requirement. You know think it's kind of obvious sure it's obvious but it was. Why was it. Proudly a bannered in the nineteenth century and is so reluctantly admitted to why did fox news begin with. Its its existence. I sang that they were a truth. Teller that the news with all of the fairest news coverage ever. Majesty there's a bit of phoniness involved on both sides. And i would like to see either. I don't think we're gonna get a return to nonpartisan journalism any time soon. I absolutely believe that. What you said was right. And i end my my book with a reminder that pat moynihan said that you can argue about opinions but you can't argue about facts but we do argue facts and we're groping now for away for Social media platforms to address. The statements lies in incendiary commentary. I think that that's a big fight. Going forward yet to the kootenai quote the sentence after you quote pat money handed out in the interview here. The sentence after the moynihan quote is the trump era may usher in a permanent upheaval which americans never again agree on basic information or trust in traditional news service. I like that to happen..
"pat moynihan" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"If the shoe on the other foot I guarantee you if the social media were controlled By conservatives and wouldn't let liberals on tribe would be jumping up and down, saying First Amendment First Amendment First Amendment But you know that's what's the problem with these radical leftist. There's so Hypocritical. None of them past the shoe on the other foot test. That is, if the facts were reversed. How would they come out? I'm a neutral look, I didn't vote for Donald Trump. Uh, I'm a liberal Democrat. I'm neutral. When it comes to the Constitution. I look at it from Clearly constitutional view not from a partisan view. So yes, it's an important case, but I can't tell you that. I know how it will come out right now. You didn't vote for Donald Trump I their time, right? I didn't write it, but I've never voted. I know. I know President in my life. I started with John Kennedy and, uh, you know, I was born the Democrats. We were born in Brooklyn. Where there any Republicans? No. But listen, I know I know that, but and we're talking about endorsements. But I will tell you this, and I also voted against Trump in 2000 and 16. I voted for Hillary. I did vote for Donald in 2020. But you've been on the right to do that. But you've been on the show a million times with me and Bernie defending positions of Donald Trump. That's why you're credible, right? But when you say you're still a Democrat, and we talk about this party and the amount of anti Semites, Alan, I don't know many people in this town that are more pro Israel and more loud about it than you. How do you remain with a party that a large number of them hate the Jews? It's very hard. Sure it remains the Biden party and doesn't become the AOC party and doesn't become the squad party. It doesn't become the Elizabeth Warren Party and doesn't become the Bernie Sanders Party. I want to remain a Democrat to keep Israel a partisan issue. If I scale in that regard, I would imagine what but look, I'm a traditional liberal. I support a woman's right to choose. I support gay marriage. I support reasonable gun control. I support separation of church and state. I'm a liberal Democrat. Yes, I support Israel. That's a liberal Democrat point of view. All the liberal Democrats, historically, from the Kennedys to to Senator Jack to Pat Moynihan, all full of the group. So we supported Israel. Now along come these radical lefties like AOC, who was destroying New York, who took Amazon out of New York. I don't know how anybody can vote for her. You get Ellen and mayor who's a variant, Anti Semite? Yeah, they're part of the Democratic Party, too, but we have to keep them marginalized. Which is why I remain a Democrat. Fair enough. Now, Alan, talking about this. So lawsuit Donald Trump with Google. Twitter and, uh, And, of course, uh, And, of course, Facebook on the censorship. I guess if I was part of Trump's defense, right, and I'm not. I'm not an attorney you wore. My wife is, uh, wouldn't you bring up? Wait a second. How is it? Okay For the mulattos in Iran. Maxine Waters goes on there and actually encourages and ads for people to go out and commit violence. Would you not bring up certain cases of other folks that are on there that have I asked people to commit violence and in some cases actually committed murder. Absolutely. And you look, haricots American has a a place on all the social media. They do not have a single standard, and they do operate clearly. Against conservatives and the idea that a millions of people are denied the right to hear from the former president, United States or then the president of the United States While they can listen to these murderers, and there's a special Hamas Uh, station. Basically there, you can get anything you want. Clearly that shows that there is selective use of censorship, but it doesn't solve the problem of whether or not these private companies are covered by the First Amendment. Now, the argument that's made is that They're already given some government benefits. They get the benefit of section 2 30 of the Decency and Communications Act, which exempts them from defamation. And if they get the benefit of it, don't they also have to be in some respects responsible? That's the argument that will be made. I don't know whether that argument you prevail. After all, baseball has an exemption, man. I trust law, right? And baseball isn't the government. So these are interesting arguments. I think this will be a very important case and may very well get to the Supreme Court. And I know I was blasted on the social media, the saying was an important case. Believe me if the shoe on the other foot and Maxine Waters had been banned for what she said outside the courtroom in the shove in case you would be sure that Larry tribes in the world would be saying, Oh, my God, This is a clear violation of the First Amendment, of course. No doubt your 100%. Right. So on the way out, Larry, the Larry Allen keeps on how each up, Alan, the book is use me the case against the new censorship. And I would imagine that folks can expect to read about what you and I are talking about right now at length in the book that, like the T to the book is that this is new censorship. The old censorship was easy to fight. I fought against it in the Pentagon papers, cases. Chicago seven Case the iron Curries, yellow cation. We won all those cases because it was the government that were censoring. Today. It's much harder than new senses a private and that's what's what makes it so important because they're claiming a first Amendment right to censor. Think of that as a paradise crazy. The purpose of the First Amendment right is to open the marketplace of ideas and they're now using the first implement. Now that is a shield. But as a sword to prevent other people from expressing their views. That's why it's an important case. And if you don't understand that go back to law School, agreed 100% again. The book is the case against the new censorship. Always a great so bright. Have yourself a wonderful weekend island. Dershowitz. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure to be on your show. Thanks. You too, pal. Take care. There is Alan Dershowitz. Go get the book The case against the new censorship folks. Less than an hour your chance at 100.